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Welcome to Pleb Chain Radio, a live show brought to you by Plebs for Plebs, which focuses

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on the intersection of NOSTER and Bitcoin protocols.

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Join QW and Avi as they run down the weekly news and developments, breaking down the current

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thing and the future frontier with the foundation of decentralization, the builders, thinkers,

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doers, and plebs.

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All right, we are live.

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Welcome, gentle plebs, to the lightning-laced airwaves. Today is Thursday, the 3rd of July, and it is episode 119 of Pleb Chain Radio. It is 5.06 p.m. on the east coast of the United States.

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At the time of recording, we have a fun show ahead of you today. Sergio, the Bitcoin bartender, joins us to talk about Bitcoin bartending, Nostabama, and much, much more.

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And a reminder, folks, if you are listening to this show on Apple or Spotify, first of all, thank you for listening.

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This show is streamed live on Zap.Stream and any other Nostra client that supports streaming such as Amethyst and Nostra.

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And QW, you have been paying attention to Bitcoin and Nostra culture in the last week.

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What have you witnessed?

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I feel like this is a weekly occurrence, Avi.

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Vibe, vibe, vibe.

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And there's also a little, I don't know,

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it seems like corn's stirring some,

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a little bit of friction in the culture on the vibe coating.

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And this kind of goes back to what I was saying originally,

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kind of, is vibe coating, is it dangerous at times, Avi?

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because you you i consider you my ai guru is it time dangerous like your waste time sometimes

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um maybe especially the users that are used like trying out your vibe coded app um is it tough to

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if the if you have bugs can you easily rebuild your your your vibe coded app um all those

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things I think about is kind of uh from my remodeling mind um but I think it's something

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I don't know even like Doc I know he's had issues with uh power uh and and you know had a bug had

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to rebuild it uh rebuild it rebuild I think he's on his fourth or fifth power uh but it seems like

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you know you might get a little over your skis but is it is it necessarily a good thing regardless

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to your earlier question

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QW about is it dangerous

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I don't think it's dangerous

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for the most part

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and certainly it's not a waste of someone's time

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if they're experimenting

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with something trying to build an app

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I think it's a great time to

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play around with that

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there's never been a time when non-technical people

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could build applications

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that sort of worked

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what if you make an app

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like I think about let's say Floxter

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that was just a Nostra app.

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And it was, I started using it.

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There was bugs.

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And, you know, if you have a microphone

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and you're like, hey, everyone use this,

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that's a lot of time that people will be using it,

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thinking it's going to get better.

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But then, you know, they spent all that time

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and the person developing has just disappeared.

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So it's like, it might not be dangerous for you,

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but for the time that could be allocated

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to actual productivity,

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it's one of those kind of weird things.

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the gray zone of vibe coding, I'd say.

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I will say, I think there are some similarities

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between the explosion of vibe-coded apps and meme coins.

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At the end of the day, it's buyer beware, right?

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If you're buying a meme coin, chances are you're going to get rug pulled.

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There is maybe that one meme coin where you'll probably make out like a bandit.

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I mean, not you, but...

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I was thinking about that, kind of the fine print of check out this app.

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And, you know, this is not financial advice type of fine print.

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You know, this is a vibe-coded app.

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It's known to have lots of bugs.

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It probably will be abandoned in two weeks.

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You know, just a little disclaimer where you're like, do I want to put my time there?

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Just like financial advice, do I want to put my money there?

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Because time is money, right?

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Anyways, so that's kind of what I was thinking about for Culture Corner.

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But there is an event coming up, Bobby.

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I don't know if you've heard about it.

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And hopefully my guest will actually show up to this.

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Our guest, Nostrebama, July 14th through the 17th, Mobile, Alabama.

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I'm sure everyone's got Mobile, Alabama on the bucket list.

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And what better time to do it than 14th through the 17th?

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Secondly, Lake Satoshi, August 1st through 3rd.

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I keep saying Central Michigan because that's about the only thing I know about this lake.

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But if you're going to go and you're going to camp, you'll find where it is.

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Lake Satoshi, August 1st through the 3rd.

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And finally, the Upendo block party is back this Saturday.

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So I expect massive zaps.

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It's essentially a combination of a zap-a-thon and a hash-a-thon.

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So it's going to be a fun time.

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I'm all in.

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and that's in less than 48 hours.

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So if you're on Noster, you really can't miss it.

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It's going to eat your feed.

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So that's it.

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Between Vibe coding posts and the Wrigley Appendo block party posts,

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Noster is becoming unusable, QW.

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I don't know what to tell you.

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It's turned into AI video now, too.

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Everyone's got their commercials running.

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yes for sure and qw for our top zapper roast i was excited about this one avi

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the bitcoin bugle it is those dirty dogs of the show

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dear friends of the show the bitcoin bugle good evening my fellow roast enjoy yours

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let's crank the gain to 11 for last week's micro donor the bitcoin bugle the newsroom that swears

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it tumbled through a quantum pothole from another timeline yet still ranks 753rd on twitter's comedy

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ladder. These stewards of semi-truth promise thermodynamically sound news. Apparently,

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that means judging jokes with a meat thermometer. Yep, medium rare, publish.

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Their proud slogan, we think for you, really means they've outsourced fact-checking to the

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multiverse, so you never have to open another tab. Every headline is a banana peel on a marble floor,

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hilarious, unsafe, and somehow legal. They mine laughs like miners mine blocks, loudly, overclocked,

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and occasionally triggering involuntary brown noise across the neighborhood. When lightning tips

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roll in, they spray sats like confetti at a clown funeral, then declare the mess content.

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So here's your roast, bugle. May your zap buttons stay as sticky as your headlines.

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May your ranking never improve, because obscurity is brand equity after all. And

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may your thermodynamics keep violating Newton in the most entertaining ways imaginable.

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Thanks for keeping us proudly and gloriously misinformed.

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That was a very non-compliant roast, Avi.

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One tries, QW.

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Oh, man.

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You know, the thing about these roasts, we really have to make something out of nothing every week.

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Because sometimes we don't even know who we're actually roasting.

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Especially until like the day before.

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So we kind of got to put these things together.

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Take all of our angles and make something from nothing.

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And that's our sermon today, Avi.

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Something from nothing.

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The difference between wanting to do something and choosing to do something is the final boss.

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listening to your heart is a lot different than acting from your heart passion cannot be replicated

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and it very much is proof of work you know there's a thousand excuses that can get in your way

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but ultimately that is your our mind your mind deciding what is real true passion builds

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commitment when you become committed i wish becomes i can i want becomes i will you know

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We've seen a lot of Noster grassroots come up.

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And I always say I love the grassroots stuff because it really is driven from passion.

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It is someone that said, I have a local scene.

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I want to do something.

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Maybe you want to do what Noster PHX did.

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Maybe you want to do what PubKey does.

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I think one of the most logical ones is like a Bitcoin park.

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but you have to start somewhere and you know when we did that Nostra PHX it was completely

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grassroots when you look at these jack-funded events I mean yeah they're unconferences but

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they got headlines they have all the things that you would see from a normal conference that would

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draw people in and you know to me it's the passion is where it's local and you know that's from Nostra

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PHX culture shock to Nostra Valley, Nostra village, and now Nostra Bama. These aren't events with

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headliners and funding from above. These are grassroots, Nostrages scraping to make things

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work. And to me, that's the best. That's the best part. Literally scraping, figuring it out.

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You try to do a value for value event. It just is what it is. And you literally take nothing

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and make it something.

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And that's, to me, the most beautiful part

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about shows like this today and the events coming up.

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So maybe we should bring our guest on

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and talk a little bit about making something from nothing.

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Welcome to the guests.

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Welcome to the PubChain Radio for the first time Sergio Gentlemen I appreciate you having me on here I really appreciate you guys having me on here I been wanting to come on forever Which coffee cup do you have in your hand right now

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Oh, it's nothing special.

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It's just a tumbler right now.

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You know, the afternoon coffees get spilled, so you've got to put them in something safe.

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I'm going to just conflate our burning question into a couple ones.

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Number one, how many times a week do you actually tan your thighs by the pool?

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I work two or three times a week and I try to go to the gym and then go to the pool and then go to work.

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So three times a week.

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And do you actually tan or you just take a picture of your thighs, post it to Noster and then wrap up?

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I try to really just sun my balls and then go to work.

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You know, I just take a picture, sun in my balls and that's it.

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Vitamin capital D, right?

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uh secondly um how many coffee mugs do you have because i think i've seen probably 50

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i mean not that many really cute uh let me let me just go to my kitchen and count them

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right quick for you there's got to be maybe about a dozen you know give or take

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yeah we're talking one two three four five six seven yeah about 14 of them you know they get

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at it here and there and they get taken away depending on you know you've got to rotate them

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in and out some get you know turned out to pasture if they get too old okay so you actually can let

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go of them i can let go of them unlike my wife and her tumblers and that's why i'm drinking from

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a tumbler today and i'm sure we all have that problem those of you who have wives there's

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there's a collection there's there's the tumblers you've got tumblers you're never gonna get rid of

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them. My son's cups now, two-year-old cups, those are a whole other batch. Really, I just use almost

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the same cup every day and hand wash it. Hey, but speaking of grassroots movements and something

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from nothing, Nostradamus is something from nothing because you're right. Nobody knows about

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Mobile. It's not a major destination. There is nothing here. But the great thing about it is that

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I have an established community and I'm already a bartender and my wife is a graphic designer

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and we have all the moving parts to make this happen.

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So we said, why not?

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Let's give it a try.

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And Avi, where did you meet Sergio?

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I believe it was at Nosterville a couple of years back in Nashville.

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That's right.

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Nosterville 1.0.

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We all have the same anniversary.

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The Sergio anniversary.

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Hey, Sergio, I actually have a real burning question for you.

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Not the nonsense QW just asked you.

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So you are a bartender.

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I am.

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And a mixologist on top of that.

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So imagine this.

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You're at a bar and there is just one customer who is paying handsomely and asks for one last drink.

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one last exotic drink

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which you proceed to make

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you hand it over

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they gulp it down

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and suddenly collapse

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because they've had one too many

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on the counter

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their phone slips out of their hand

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it is actually unlocked

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the app that's open

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is their bitcoin wallet

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with 100 bitcoin in it

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what do you do?

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I mean he's my new best friend obviously

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lock that bitch up and then wake him up

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and we're going on a trip.

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I hope he likes golfing, you know?

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You mean lock him in the basement or lock what up?

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In the trunk, because we're going to the airport.

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That's what you do.

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Also, I already know he has good taste if he came to my bar,

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so we're going to get along great.

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How long have you been a bartender?

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Tell us a little bit about where the hell did Sergio come from.

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It's been on 11 years.

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You're a character.

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You're very charismatic.

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You're great.

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I mean, even my wife likes you, so that's cool.

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You got that going for you.

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I mean, that's a plus.

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You're a friendly dude that generally has a friendly personality.

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Great for bartending.

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I'm sure you endure a lot, too.

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I started about 11 years ago. I got an opportunity to move here to Alabama. A friend of mine was part

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owner of a bar. I'd just gotten out of college. I didn't know what I was going to do.

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And he said, you know, do you want to come work for me for a summer? Do you want to bartend? I

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said, I don't know how to bartend. He said, you mix a couple of things together. I said,

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I think I can handle it. And so I did it. And once I got here, I think I had like 600 bucks in my

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name, enough for rent for a couple of months. And I started bartending and I took off with it and I

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did volume bartending, which is just two touch drinks for, I would say three or four years

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before I got an opportunity to go to the bar that I'm in now, which is the Haberdasher.

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And I would consider the Haberdasher to be the pinnacle of bars here in Mobile. There's just

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nowhere else to go where you can get this kind of classical cocktail training. You would have to

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travel or, you know, go to a school or something, you know, so I was very fortunate to do that.

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And I've been at the Hab now for about seven years now. And so, uh, you know, I've been doing

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it for quite a while and it takes a long time, you know, it takes a long time to get used to,

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um, working with what it is, is templates. You know, everything has a template and you can plug

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and play ingredients into that template so that you can do variations of certain cocktails.

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Sergio, for those of us who are just blind consumers, as opposed to being on the other

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side of the counter, you used a couple of terms that might have gone over many of our heads,

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including mine. One was two-touch bartending, and the other was haberdasher. I've heard of

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haberdasheries. I thought those were places where people sold hats. That's right.

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I'm curious.

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The bar got its name because they didn't know what to call it.

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And they asked the previous owners, you know, what did this used to be before we put the bar here?

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And they said it used to be a haberdashery, a men's accessory warehouse or store.

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And so they said, that's what we're going to call it.

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We're going to call it the haberdasher.

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So that came about.

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Two-touch bartending is akin to volume bartending in that you only touch two ingredients.

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It's a whiskey soda.

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It's a vodka tonic.

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tonic. It's a, you know, whatever those two ingredients are, it, it's kind of, um, entry

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level bartending. Most anyone can do it if they have fast hands, you know, or ADD and fast hands,

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you know, if you can carry a conversation and, uh, you know, service the people, if you will.

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So that's, um, and, and that has its place. That's a lot of fun to do that. And you can make a lot of

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money doing that because of your, uh, percentage compounded gains there. You know, if, if I sell

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someone a $5 beer and they give me $2 and they, and that happens hundreds of times, your percentage

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is bigger and you're compounding it to a larger extent. Whereas if I'm making a $13 cocktail and

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I get a dollar off of someone, it takes a lot more work and effort to put that cocktail out

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and I'm getting less returns, but it's more rewarding in the longterm. There's, you know,

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you can be proud of something that you've made. Even it's a low time preference kind of thing.

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Right. A cocktail with multiple ingredients that's handcrafted is proof of work as opposed to, I suppose.

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It is. And you can you can also help your yourself by batching liquors and juices, saving time that way.

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So you don't have to work hard necessarily. If you have 15 ingredients in a drink, you can batch it and make it a two touch drink by batching your juices separately from your liquor and just having the measurements ready to go.

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You know, so, you know, you can work smart and not hard in that aspect.

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so when were you are you a formally trained mixologist no i had to learn on my own by trial

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and error and i was just kind of thrown in and trained on just on the go it was a sink or swim

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mentality said either you make it or you don't because everybody who's ever bartended knows they

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get that that urge to quit when it gets really hard like you could just quit and go home and not

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have to deal with the public. Everybody gets that. But if you push through, that's what counts. You

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know, if you just keep doing your job as hard as it can get, because it does get taxing, you know,

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on your body and your mind, because you have to deal with so many different personalities.

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Not all of them are nice, but you have to be, you know, cordial and nice for customer service sake.

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So not always. There are times, you know, where you can you can lash back, but it's not suggested

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that you do that as a default, you know?

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And how long have you been a bartender?

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11 years.

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So this was, I mean, you started mining Bitcoin in 2009,

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so it was a couple years after that?

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Exactly, exactly.

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That's right.

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He started mining Bitcoin.

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on my bitcoin journey started pretty pretty early though but i didn't acquire it until much later

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you forget about it you hear about it in the news and then you go oh yeah that's something i'll look

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into it and then you forget about it well what what what drew you into it what ultimately

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what about you sergio drew you into bitcoin

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And unlike a lot of people, you get attracted by the greed, right?

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Because you see it go up.

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But for me, a lot of it was coming from having been raised in Mexico for 13 years and seeing around 10 or 11 years old when the banks changed the currency, they changed the bills, they took a zero off.

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And then they were like, this is now new money.

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you know the the day before they did that i paid for my lunch right after the mexican peso crisis

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right yeah yeah and uh the lunch lady yeah the basically you know i went up to the lunch lady

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trying to give her the old money and she said this doesn't this doesn't work anymore and i said what

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are you talking about you you gave me lunch yesterday and i gave you the same thing and

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she was like this this doesn't it's just not money anymore and i realized then i was like okay so this

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all sham. And it was around 2012 when I was living in California that Max Kaiser was on RT

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and he was talking about Bitcoin. I think it reached parity to the dollar and soon went to

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$70. And I said, that's historic. That's huge. How do I get my hands on it? Well, I didn't know how.

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There was no way to self-custody at the time unless you were, you know, really savvy on how

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to do it I don think there was no hardware wallets There was none of that you know and so I forgot about it until about 2017 and right around the time that I moved here to Mobile And when I started working and I moved to Mobile without a bank account or a cell phone or a car and I would just walk to work

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It was a couple miles, two or three miles.

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And I would do that three or four times a week.

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And so since I wasn't paying any insurance, gas, none of that, I opened a bank account.

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I downloaded mycelium and they had a Glidera third-party purchasing Bitcoin provider.

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And I would just do reoccurring buys whenever I had extra money and had paid my rent.

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I'd put all the extra money into Bitcoin and I just sat on it.

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And that was the beginning of my Bitcoin journey.

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But you're knee-deep in the ethos now.

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What is it?

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I mean, how does that happen?

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It's because it's one thing to look at it like money or an investment.

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It's another thing to look at it from a cultural aspect.

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I mean, you go all the way down the rabbit hole to sunning your balls.

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I mean, yeah, you got to, man.

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You got a full send.

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And especially, you know, it's funny because before I found Noster, it was a lonely place to be a Bitcoiner in Alabama.

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I didn't know where to turn.

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There was no one.

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People looked at me like I was crazy.

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So I just shut up.

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Because I was yelling at people, you know, hey, this is going to be, it's going to be the next, you know, it's either everything or it's nothing.

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It's either going to swallow the world or it just fizzles into oblivion.

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And I think we're on our way to swallowing the world.

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And Nostros brought this social layer that I was missing.

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And I had quit social media right around COVID.

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I got sick of everyone fighting.

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I didn't want to see it anymore.

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And I just, I got off all of the socials.

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And that was one of the best things for my mental health.

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The next best thing for my mental health was being able to say good morning on Noster and people replying back and just saying good morning.

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You know, have, enjoy your day.

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Today's going to be a great day.

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It's funny that something that small can change your perspective on how the day's going to go.

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but I try to take that to heart and do it every day.

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Say good morning, post a picture from where I'm having my coffee,

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my sunroomed, which has now become who I am on Nostra, I suppose.

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So I guess I'm consistently that guy.

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Hell yeah.

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And you get a big Nostra adopter, especially the technology side.

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I think our very first, beyond just kind of shitposting together,

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early, early Noster times. But me and you had a transaction in the DMs. And I sold you a GoPro.

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That was one of the first things I've ever sold. Actually, my first thing I've ever sold for Bitcoin,

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just peer-to-peer. It was purely peer-to-peer marketplace. And that was pretty sweet. But you

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also taking that streaming, you've taken it to the next level through zap.stream.

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Oh, yeah, I still have that GoPro, man. I put it on my bicycle.

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And that's another thing about you is you've always made Bitcoin money, not just digital gold.

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You're always supporting, always using it as currency, because truly, that's the way to unlock

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the freedom, in my opinion. And I think you get that. But yeah, talk about that.

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I have to agree. And actually, I've gone as far as to, and I did this recently, and I had to tuck

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my tail, you know, between my legs and run back. But I ditched my banks and went all in on strike

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and bill pay and using my credit cards. But I had to inevitably go back to getting a bank account.

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I think I'm too early.

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We're going to pull that thread in a second because I wanted to talk to you about that.

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And that was a user error.

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That was not Strike's fault.

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I want to clarify that.

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Yeah, well, I want to talk more about that death, but I do want to ask you, how was the ZapDot stream?

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Because you're one of the first people streaming on it, like, a lot, I feel like.

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I love using new stuff.

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I have this, I don't know what it is, but I like to play with new stuff.

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And so especially when it comes to technology, I'm not the most technologically savvy person, but I like fucking with stuff, you know, and especially if it's new and exciting and especially if it comes off of Noster.

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And I thought to myself, you know, I'm already doing something that people would like to peek into.

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I'm bartending.

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So why not, you know, let people in and see what I'm doing?

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But what do these people in real life think about you when you're over there with your camera set up and you got your Nostra PHX shirt on?

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Well, the first thing they ask me is, where can I find you?

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They're like, oh, are you on TikTok?

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Are you on YouTube?

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And I'm like, no, I'm not.

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You can go fuck yourself.

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You can find me on Nostra.

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You've got to love that.

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That's great, Sergio.

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So the Zap.

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Do you still do that, by the way, mixing on Zap.

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I do it every Saturday.

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I do it every Saturday.

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I want it to be as busy as it can be so that I can keep people entertained, even though I don't have that many viewers.

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But there's like, you know, a handful that tune in and I appreciate them.

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And let's talk about the scene in the Bitcoin scene in Alabama.

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You mentioned that for the longest time you were the only one there.

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So did that change?

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Are there more Bitcoiners there now?

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it used to be abysmal to be honest with you obvi but it has come around to where

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for better or worse i'm known as the bitcoin guy around here and anytime somebody has a question

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they come to me and they're like you know what do i do and i basically tell them because i've made

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all the mistakes already you know what not to do and they'll sometimes listen to me sometimes they

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won't they'll go into the shitcoin forest and get lost but eventually everybody comes back to bitcoin

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You know, in due time, everybody comes back. It's that Sunday come to Jesus moment where you're like, all right, I've messed around. I've lost my ass. I have to get back to sound money.

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Yeah, you've spent your time being the tugboat. You've spent your time being the tugboat. Now you're just that that that light that lighthouse. Now people know to come to you.

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yeah and uh and to go even further actually on that point i because of nostrobama and because of

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being able to set up the btc pay server i realized something recently that i hadn't before i can now

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provide the ability for businesses to integrate btc pay server now and so riddler and i are going

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to make that our next venture, hopefully, in the near future. So Noserem has opened our eyes to a

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lot of other things, a lot of facets that could be applied to places that may not have the best,

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you know, I'm not going to say infrastructure, we have everything, but, you know, just the knowledge.

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They're lacking direction, but they have to want it, you know. And that's one of the hardest

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things about this is people and businesses, they have to want it in order to implement this,

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because there is a bit of a learning curve.

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You know, it's not easy, but it's worth it.

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So you're talking about a white glove type service

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where you take BTC Pay, you go to merchants,

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and you help them get set up?

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I mean, yeah, just basically,

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these people have point of sale services.

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This is just basically a web app,

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and you don't have to self-host.

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You know, BTC Pay server can allow you to open a channel

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and they can host it for you at a very low cost.

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And so the barrier to entry gets lower. It's just that technical difficulty. But if we can get people past that hurdle and just help people get there, I think it would be very beneficial.

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And especially once people realize how fast it is and how easy it is to use. And it would be a game changer. And especially in places – I joke around when I say this, but it is somewhat true.

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Mobile, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, it's like the third world in a first world country.

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You know, the deep south has had its problems, right? We all know. And we're down here and we're

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in damn near last in every category, especially education. So I think if we educate people where

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it matters the most in money, we could have a slow, you know, rise to get better.

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And that's the thing, right? I think there's a bigger opportunity in a more third world type environment where people are acutely aware because of their economic condition that the money is broken or they can be convinced very easily of that.

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I mean people feel it. If you ask people, you know, how much are you paying for red meat right now if you go to the store? How much did you pay previous to 2020? What percentage do you think that is? Why do you think that is? You start asking the right questions. They'll start wondering for themselves like, huh, maybe he's got a point, you know? Well, he's driving around a new car. Well, he's going on vacations. It didn't seem to affect him. Why?

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you just adopt bitcoin as your denominator everything gets cheaper over the next infinite

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amount of time and you know sahaja the other point you're making about you and you said the grinder

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uh from from last over right going around uh helping up this these point of sale folks set

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up btc pay server you know there is this always this chicken and egg uh question when it comes to

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Bitcoin adoption, which is, you know, you ask someone, why don't you use Bitcoin?

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Well, nobody accepts Bitcoin.

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You go to the merchants and you say, why don't you...

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That's such a lame, you know, it's such a lame response.

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Right.

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And then you ask the merchants...

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It's such a lazy response.

431
00:33:47,371 --> 00:33:50,511
But the merchants say, well, because why don't you accept Bitcoin?

432
00:33:50,591 --> 00:33:51,691
Because no one wants to pay in Bitcoin.

433
00:33:52,171 --> 00:33:53,491
So it seems like a chicken and egg.

434
00:33:53,491 --> 00:33:57,611
But they're actually, in my mind, a very simple solution to that.

435
00:33:57,991 --> 00:33:59,671
You get the merchants on board.

436
00:33:59,791 --> 00:34:04,351
Right. You get them to start accepting Bitcoin, you convince them of the value proposition.

437
00:34:04,351 --> 00:34:11,391
And then merchant adoption is what's going to drive consumer adoption because they'll see the option there.

438
00:34:11,751 --> 00:34:14,431
Absolutely. So I think it's a it's a really cool thing that you guys are doing.

439
00:34:17,171 --> 00:34:20,891
Thanks, man. It's been a fun journey. It's going to continue to be a fun journey.

440
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:24,791
I think this is I'm very excited about Nostravam.

441
00:34:24,871 --> 00:34:27,571
I think it's going to open a lot of doors to help everyone.

442
00:34:27,571 --> 00:34:32,771
and just, you know, a lot of this is just having like-minded people with the same ethos together

443
00:34:32,771 --> 00:34:35,231
to share ideas and make more connections.

444
00:34:36,111 --> 00:34:42,010
And because Bitcoin allows you to be, you know, a digital nomad and we have this grassroots movement,

445
00:34:42,411 --> 00:34:43,831
you can start something from nothing.

446
00:34:44,171 --> 00:34:45,431
You can be non-local.

447
00:34:45,651 --> 00:34:47,291
You don't have to do it locally.

448
00:34:47,371 --> 00:34:48,291
You can be non-local.

449
00:34:48,971 --> 00:34:51,471
You know, you can move around and go and have different meetups.

450
00:34:51,591 --> 00:34:53,030
You know, you can go to Europe.

451
00:34:53,151 --> 00:34:55,931
You can go to, you know, what's that island?

452
00:34:55,931 --> 00:34:56,391
Madeira.

453
00:34:56,391 --> 00:34:59,550
or you can go to Prague or you can go to wherever.

454
00:34:59,811 --> 00:35:22,216
I think that a strong point that local doesn mean down the street It could mean oh something happened in Vegas I a four hour drive I drive there You know it doesn necessarily you know supporting something close enough is just as important as starting something from nothing

455
00:35:22,216 --> 00:35:29,916
yeah man and especially when you hear about things like uh nostril you know and going to

456
00:35:29,916 --> 00:35:35,396
bitcoin park which i consider to be like the mecca the first time that you could go somewhere

457
00:35:35,396 --> 00:35:41,816
and purchase a coffee using lightning which is one of the biggest things people say you're not

458
00:35:41,816 --> 00:35:46,296
gonna purchase coffee with bitcoin are you and it's like what are you talking about i just did

459
00:35:46,296 --> 00:35:51,836
you know and that was one of the one of the the crazy aha moments with lightning and uh and being

460
00:35:51,836 --> 00:35:56,816
at Bitcoin Park and meeting a lot of people that were similar, you know, similarly minded,

461
00:35:57,336 --> 00:36:04,856
same kind of sound money principles as you and, you know, outlook on life. And it, it just clicked.

462
00:36:04,936 --> 00:36:10,116
I was like, oh, okay. If, if you build it, they'll, they'll come, you know, like you can build your

463
00:36:10,116 --> 00:36:15,616
own table. You don't have to go all the way to Nashville. If you have a circle of maybe two,

464
00:36:15,736 --> 00:36:19,816
three, four Bitcoiners, that's all it takes. I would encourage everyone to start a meetup

465
00:36:19,816 --> 00:36:22,216
to your own capability with whatever you have

466
00:36:22,216 --> 00:36:24,436
and build from something.

467
00:36:25,316 --> 00:36:28,056
Because Bitcoiners will travel to go see other Bitcoiners.

468
00:36:28,396 --> 00:36:28,976
I've done it.

469
00:36:29,716 --> 00:36:30,976
I'll continue to do it.

470
00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:34,876
And Sergio, let's not forget Noster's role in all of this.

471
00:36:35,256 --> 00:36:38,116
Chances are you paid for that coffee at Bitcoin Park

472
00:36:38,116 --> 00:36:41,256
with zaps from your shitposts on Noster,

473
00:36:41,856 --> 00:36:44,976
which is an incredible thing if you think about it.

474
00:36:44,976 --> 00:36:48,116
You mentioned purchasing coffee with Bitcoin.

475
00:36:48,116 --> 00:36:56,636
um plebs love coffee chain plebs love good morning protocol uh we definitely have uh something

476
00:36:56,636 --> 00:37:01,656
instilled in us where we start early uh start your day early start the productivity early get

477
00:37:01,656 --> 00:37:06,556
the proof of work in every day hey i've started waking up a lot earlier even if i go to bed late

478
00:37:06,556 --> 00:37:11,996
there's some internal alarm clock inside of me that says hey seven o'clock wake up and and qw

479
00:37:11,996 --> 00:37:15,116
let's not forget that Sergio's profession is nocturnal.

480
00:37:15,536 --> 00:37:19,756
And he's still up there for coffee chain and GM o'clock.

481
00:37:20,736 --> 00:37:22,916
And it's funny because I'm not a night owl.

482
00:37:23,036 --> 00:37:24,896
He goes to bed after his morning coffee.

483
00:37:28,196 --> 00:37:29,996
No, I don't.

484
00:37:32,976 --> 00:37:37,156
Those photos of him sunning his thighs, QW, are when he's fast asleep.

485
00:37:39,836 --> 00:37:41,336
That's him waking up from his nap.

486
00:37:41,336 --> 00:37:42,136
I didn't even take that picture.

487
00:37:42,976 --> 00:37:44,176
That was my wife behind me.

488
00:37:46,816 --> 00:37:49,296
It's his GoPro on his headband.

489
00:37:52,416 --> 00:37:53,016
Oh, man.

490
00:37:54,776 --> 00:38:02,016
So, well, I think take this moment right now to talk about who's involved in this, who locally.

491
00:38:02,016 --> 00:38:07,716
You mentioned the Riddler because I've given him a few shout-outs, too, when I've done this Nostra Bama.

492
00:38:07,716 --> 00:38:13,036
but who else is integral in this building of Nostrebama?

493
00:38:14,036 --> 00:38:15,836
It's really Riddler.

494
00:38:15,956 --> 00:38:18,716
I couldn't have done it with, it takes a team, right?

495
00:38:19,016 --> 00:38:21,116
But without Russ, without Riddler,

496
00:38:21,416 --> 00:38:24,436
I would not have been able to do this, hands down.

497
00:38:25,156 --> 00:38:28,016
I wouldn't have known how to set up the PTC pay server,

498
00:38:28,476 --> 00:38:29,976
set up my own server and do all that.

499
00:38:30,136 --> 00:38:31,796
He's in charge of all the technical stuff.

500
00:38:32,076 --> 00:38:34,816
So I really have to hand it to him.

501
00:38:34,876 --> 00:38:36,876
He's been an integral part in this.

502
00:38:36,876 --> 00:38:42,456
and I mean also my wife because she's a graphic designer and she came up with a t-shirt everybody

503
00:38:42,456 --> 00:38:47,176
knows that if you don't have good merch it's not going to work right you have to have good merch

504
00:38:47,176 --> 00:38:54,896
and Noster has some of the best merch arguably shout out uh light lightning store and juxtapose

505
00:38:54,896 --> 00:39:03,036
shout out shout out to them oh yeah man absolutely that's some of the best merch I think ever I mean

506
00:39:03,036 --> 00:39:11,016
the quality and i i i did see the dog tags uh very well done i appreciate it hey that's not me that

507
00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:17,536
was that was mallory that was my wife you can thank her she's an absolute g at design powerhouse

508
00:39:17,536 --> 00:39:25,196
matter of fact but yeah she's been great and then um funny enough it it kind of all developed

509
00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:30,256
organically it was really by popular demand that this kind of happened and it was only after

510
00:39:30,256 --> 00:39:37,596
meeting up in Nostraville and joking about making a Nostrebama that it became the idea became a

511
00:39:37,596 --> 00:39:43,216
reality. But what really solidified it was when Ainsley Costello's mom emailed me and said, hey,

512
00:39:43,916 --> 00:39:50,096
if you're going to do Nostrebama, please include us. And so it made it so real that I was like,

513
00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:53,316
oh, shit, people actually think I'm going to do this. I kind of have to do it now.

514
00:39:54,176 --> 00:39:59,356
You know, so and then it started by going to my wife and going, you know, can you make me a

515
00:39:59,356 --> 00:40:04,936
t-shirt design if I was going to throw a get together like Nostroville. And she said, sure,

516
00:40:05,096 --> 00:40:11,836
you know, we'll work on it. And it came out so good. I was so excited about it. I was like,

517
00:40:11,836 --> 00:40:17,596
I would just do this for the merch, you know? And then people started coming in like Dank Swoops,

518
00:40:17,776 --> 00:40:23,296
who I did not know was, and I don't know if you guys know, he's a, he's a world record holding

519
00:40:23,296 --> 00:40:25,236
skydiver. Did y'all know that?

520
00:40:26,496 --> 00:40:27,196
This guy's

521
00:40:27,196 --> 00:40:28,776
done so many jumps.

522
00:40:29,776 --> 00:40:30,716
Dank Swoops!

523
00:40:31,716 --> 00:40:33,196
Dank Swoops is a world record

524
00:40:33,196 --> 00:40:35,216
holding skydiver. And so he was

525
00:40:35,216 --> 00:40:37,016
like, hey man, I can get a plane

526
00:40:37,016 --> 00:40:39,176
and we can go skydiving on one of those

527
00:40:39,176 --> 00:40:41,116
days. And I was like, bet. Let's do it.

528
00:40:41,916 --> 00:40:43,016
We can definitely do that.

529
00:40:45,036 --> 00:40:47,156
But that's because

530
00:40:47,156 --> 00:40:48,916
is that because ostriches don't fly?

531
00:40:49,656 --> 00:40:50,356
They just fall?

532
00:40:50,716 --> 00:40:51,956
That's right. Yeah.

533
00:40:53,296 --> 00:40:55,236
I mean, you've got to have a parachute on an ostrich.

534
00:40:55,536 --> 00:40:56,816
Their wings are just not going to hold them.

535
00:40:57,996 --> 00:41:02,976
You could probably connect to an ostrich and do a little dual jump.

536
00:41:04,616 --> 00:41:05,836
Oh, yeah, for sure.

537
00:41:06,256 --> 00:41:07,316
Hit the ground running, too.

538
00:41:07,776 --> 00:41:10,796
Hey, Sergius, what do plebs expect?

539
00:41:11,656 --> 00:41:13,256
What should they expect when they're there?

540
00:41:13,316 --> 00:41:14,176
So Ainsley's playing.

541
00:41:14,256 --> 00:41:16,476
You're going to have some kind of value for value music event?

542
00:41:17,416 --> 00:41:18,416
No, she's actually not.

543
00:41:18,416 --> 00:41:20,356
I didn't get to finish that part of my story, actually.

544
00:41:20,356 --> 00:41:29,156
She wasn't able to make it because she had something in New York that she had to, if I remember correctly, her mother said that she wasn't going to be able to make it.

545
00:41:29,256 --> 00:41:33,056
She had to, you know, unfortunately not be able to make it.

546
00:41:33,236 --> 00:41:35,396
And and I think they're in New York doing something.

547
00:41:35,516 --> 00:41:37,936
But so that that made me a little bit sad.

548
00:41:37,956 --> 00:41:40,916
But, you know, I tried because I didn't know when to throw this.

549
00:41:41,016 --> 00:41:42,556
I had no idea what the dates would be.

550
00:41:42,896 --> 00:41:44,476
And I think I don't know who it was.

551
00:41:44,496 --> 00:41:45,836
They said, just set a date and do it.

552
00:41:45,976 --> 00:41:49,016
And I was like, yeah, let's just not, you know, think about it too, too much.

553
00:41:49,016 --> 00:41:54,316
so that's uh that's what we did we landed on july 15th through the 17th originally it was just going

554
00:41:54,316 --> 00:42:01,496
to be on the 15th and uh i'm really happy to say that i i did get uh derrick ross the president

555
00:42:01,496 --> 00:42:09,196
of nostril to come down and uh also vic is going to come down uh for corny chat ace and eric coming

556
00:42:09,196 --> 00:42:15,796
down and manny me uh and so i have 30 minute blocks for all of those speakers um at the beginning of

557
00:42:15,796 --> 00:42:22,036
of uh nostrabama before we get into the night at seven o'clock we'll start doing some music

558
00:42:22,036 --> 00:42:28,676
and i got a three-piece band brooks hubbard baby spese and joe pizzolato the best musicians that

559
00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:33,796
i personally know that i could get on board and uh i think it's gonna be a really good time

560
00:42:35,236 --> 00:42:39,636
so that's gonna be uh that's gonna be the first day did we lose some qw

561
00:42:39,636 --> 00:42:49,716
uh it's that mobile uh that mobile internet man mobile phone

562
00:42:49,716 --> 00:43:00,416
he's just chiming in from his mobile phone oh man you know alabama internet isn't as good as

563
00:43:00,416 --> 00:43:01,276
the rest of the country.

564
00:43:02,736 --> 00:43:04,356
Bitcoin fixes this.

565
00:43:06,056 --> 00:43:07,716
Man, if we could just, you know.

566
00:43:07,876 --> 00:43:09,956
I told you I'm in the third world of the first world.

567
00:43:10,436 --> 00:43:12,096
Win mesh-tastic, Sergio.

568
00:43:13,316 --> 00:43:20,716
I have the damn device, but let me tell you, I can't flash it because I broke my computer

569
00:43:20,716 --> 00:43:21,776
and I had to send it in.

570
00:43:22,296 --> 00:43:24,396
I spilled water on my computer and I had to send it in.

571
00:43:24,396 --> 00:43:32,756
so the president the president of uh of nostros uh committed to this uh nostrabama

572
00:43:32,756 --> 00:43:40,876
he's committed yeah i got uh you know i got derrick ross i got vic from corny chat i got

573
00:43:40,876 --> 00:43:46,576
ace and eric i got manny me i got a i got some titans coming in man i saw vic doing an advent

574
00:43:46,576 --> 00:43:53,536
calendar to nostrabama uh that's that's pretty pretty amazing he's he's pulling a day off every

575
00:43:53,536 --> 00:43:58,576
day and it's got a little prize in every day. I think yesterday was a little, little elephant

576
00:43:58,576 --> 00:44:05,876
with it, with the message. Yeah, I'm, I'm really, I'm really excited to have those guys down here.

577
00:44:05,876 --> 00:44:10,776
And I really, you know, I want to thank them for, for coming down and entertaining my,

578
00:44:10,896 --> 00:44:15,916
my little meetup that, you know, I hope to make an annual meetup. I really want to continue doing

579
00:44:15,916 --> 00:44:21,176
this every year. Uh, and hopefully we get some traction and, and make it bigger and better

580
00:44:21,176 --> 00:44:23,376
every year. Yeah, the biggest thing

581
00:44:23,376 --> 00:44:25,436
is definitely securing the venue

582
00:44:25,436 --> 00:44:27,416
where it's not going to

583
00:44:27,416 --> 00:44:29,016
take an arm and a leg

584
00:44:29,016 --> 00:44:31,216
to afford it because

585
00:44:31,216 --> 00:44:33,096
a lot of what you can do is

586
00:44:33,096 --> 00:44:35,556
sell goods or bake goods

587
00:44:35,556 --> 00:44:37,316
or someone make some food

588
00:44:37,316 --> 00:44:39,056
and value for value that.

589
00:44:39,256 --> 00:44:41,856
There's a lot of things you can do after you have the venue, right?

590
00:44:43,436 --> 00:44:45,456
Well, see, what you don't know about Alabama

591
00:44:45,456 --> 00:44:47,836
is it's a good old boys kind of territory over here

592
00:44:47,836 --> 00:44:49,756
and I know everybody and every

593
00:44:49,756 --> 00:44:50,956
business owner that has a venue.

594
00:44:51,176 --> 00:44:54,956
And they can just do me the favor of allowing me to use their venues.

595
00:44:56,816 --> 00:44:58,376
Because I bartend for all of them.

596
00:44:59,376 --> 00:45:00,536
So you're getting them for free?

597
00:45:00,956 --> 00:45:02,216
So that's one of the great things.

598
00:45:03,276 --> 00:45:04,476
Yeah, I got it for free.

599
00:45:05,736 --> 00:45:08,736
Well, this is how we roll, man.

600
00:45:09,516 --> 00:45:10,956
I mean, I'm making it happen.

601
00:45:11,436 --> 00:45:12,556
I'm making it happen.

602
00:45:12,556 --> 00:45:17,496
And a lot of people that have contributed and volunteered their time into this,

603
00:45:17,496 --> 00:45:21,776
Of course, when we sit down at the end of this, we're going to zap them fat.

604
00:45:22,156 --> 00:45:27,096
We do appreciate everyone who has put their foot forward and helped us.

605
00:45:27,496 --> 00:45:34,936
I want to say SB and Kijuzi for doing the website and Derek for migrating it onto his server.

606
00:45:35,156 --> 00:45:37,536
Eventually, we'll migrate it onto Riddler's server.

607
00:45:37,816 --> 00:45:45,016
But I couldn't have done this without people's contribution and their volunteering their time and energy.

608
00:45:45,016 --> 00:45:47,196
and that's one of the beautiful things about this community

609
00:45:47,196 --> 00:45:48,696
is you don't really even have to ask.

610
00:45:48,776 --> 00:45:50,036
People will be like, oh, I got a good idea.

611
00:45:50,236 --> 00:45:51,836
I'm just going to hand it over.

612
00:45:52,236 --> 00:45:53,356
You know, like, here you go.

613
00:45:54,896 --> 00:45:56,316
No strings attached, you know,

614
00:45:56,396 --> 00:45:58,776
but you want to reward people that treat you well,

615
00:45:59,276 --> 00:46:00,736
especially because you want to build that,

616
00:46:01,136 --> 00:46:02,536
you know, we hear this web of trust.

617
00:46:02,716 --> 00:46:04,556
You want to keep those people close to you,

618
00:46:05,376 --> 00:46:07,096
you know, because they enable you

619
00:46:07,096 --> 00:46:08,456
to do bigger and better things.

620
00:46:09,976 --> 00:46:10,296
Hopefully.

621
00:46:10,296 --> 00:46:13,196
No, that makes complete sense, Sergio.

622
00:46:13,196 --> 00:46:29,556
So for other plebs who are thinking about doing their own event, Nostra or Bitcoin event of this magnitude, obviously, you know, you went down the real value for value route here by securing the venue with people you bartended for.

623
00:46:30,536 --> 00:46:31,916
You're selling merch.

624
00:46:32,836 --> 00:46:39,356
Is it – so does this mean that you're largely going to cover your costs for Nostra Bama?

625
00:46:39,356 --> 00:46:51,176
No, I'll probably come out at a loss, but it's not going to cost me that much. I would gladly spend any amount of money to get people together who enjoy the experience.

626
00:46:52,421 --> 00:46:56,261
be lucky, but that's not really the point. And I'm also not expecting even next year to be

627
00:46:56,781 --> 00:47:02,421
profitable. But the thing is that you got to start, you got to get the ball rolling,

628
00:47:02,421 --> 00:47:07,501
you know, and not expect immediate results all the time. You know, a lot of people,

629
00:47:07,601 --> 00:47:12,741
they just quit because they're like, oh, you know, I didn't get the expected outcome. It's like,

630
00:47:12,781 --> 00:47:16,601
yeah, well, this time, but nobody starts at something and is perfect. You have to

631
00:47:16,601 --> 00:47:22,901
work out the kinks and you have to, you know, make the mistakes to, to improve on the next time,

632
00:47:23,021 --> 00:47:31,161
you know, like anything. But it's a lot, a lot of what has helped though, is the free venues and

633
00:47:31,161 --> 00:47:36,261
myself being a bartender and not having to pay an outside bartender. So I had all the things in

634
00:47:36,261 --> 00:47:42,081
house to make this happen at a pretty economically, you know, uh, to where we're not spending all that

635
00:47:42,081 --> 00:47:49,761
much you know it's going to be like food um t-shirts were were not even that much comparatively

636
00:47:49,761 --> 00:47:57,601
um the alcohol is i'm gonna do like one free drink and then people can pay in sats

637
00:47:57,601 --> 00:48:02,841
we've built a menu on btc pay server and it's going to be you know the dynamic pricing that

638
00:48:02,841 --> 00:48:08,541
it allows for uh pricing in in dollars with paid foreign sats and i think it might even have the

639
00:48:08,541 --> 00:48:14,141
sat equivalent next to it. I'm not sure. But, you know, we've got all the moving parts and we've put

640
00:48:14,141 --> 00:48:17,881
them all together. I think it's going to be a great time. I think it might be the best meetup

641
00:48:17,881 --> 00:48:26,801
for Nostra yet, dare I say. It's really three events into one event because we have music

642
00:48:26,801 --> 00:48:33,501
the first day. We have a virtual reality room that we have rented out the second day.

643
00:48:33,921 --> 00:48:38,241
And then the third day we're doing skydiving and partying at the Floribama. So it could really be

644
00:48:38,241 --> 00:48:41,381
three events on their own.

645
00:48:41,661 --> 00:48:46,261
And you're not doing any panels or that sort of talks, are you?

646
00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:47,941
I am, actually.

647
00:48:48,101 --> 00:48:53,461
I've reserved two hours, 30-minute blocks, Derek, Vic, Ace and Eric, and Manny Me.

648
00:48:54,821 --> 00:48:56,701
Those are the four speakers that I have.

649
00:48:57,401 --> 00:49:03,281
And I thought it very important to have those because the last time we went to Nostraville

650
00:49:03,281 --> 00:49:06,321
2.0, it was all party, no panels.

651
00:49:06,321 --> 00:49:15,321
And as cool as that was, it's kind of – you kind of have to have the panels because that's the whole point of why we were able to congregate.

652
00:49:16,281 --> 00:49:31,321
The people that are working on Noster are making it available for us to use these things and be able to talk to one another, zap one another, use those side apps, those other things to our advantage.

653
00:49:31,321 --> 00:49:43,921
And I think it's cool that you can get the devs in to talk about the behind the scenes of what they're doing and see why it is that we can use and handle and all this stuff.

654
00:49:45,321 --> 00:49:46,801
I can agree with that.

655
00:49:46,961 --> 00:49:50,841
I think education and experiences can be meshed well.

656
00:49:51,541 --> 00:49:54,301
And that's kind of the mixology of it, right?

657
00:49:56,081 --> 00:49:57,821
Yeah, and it's not going to be mandatory.

658
00:49:57,941 --> 00:49:59,441
If you don't want to come to the talks, you don't have to.

659
00:49:59,441 --> 00:50:09,341
Nobody, you know, I would encourage people to come because, I mean, you know, it'd be kind of rude, but everybody can do whatever they want, you know.

660
00:50:09,881 --> 00:50:16,861
Are you doing anything on Zap.Stream, Toonster, anything utilizing the tools of Noster?

661
00:50:18,341 --> 00:50:25,741
I am going to try to stream it, but that's the last moving part that I have to figure out because I'm going to have my hands full.

662
00:50:25,741 --> 00:50:28,501
are you streaming it from your

663
00:50:28,501 --> 00:50:29,941
mobile phone

664
00:50:29,941 --> 00:50:33,021
listen

665
00:50:33,021 --> 00:50:35,161
I don't want to hear

666
00:50:35,161 --> 00:50:36,941
my spotty internet

667
00:50:36,941 --> 00:50:38,161
you know

668
00:50:38,161 --> 00:50:41,081
objections but yes

669
00:50:41,081 --> 00:50:42,181
I am probably

670
00:50:42,181 --> 00:50:44,441
if I can't find somebody that has a better

671
00:50:44,441 --> 00:50:46,201
a camera

672
00:50:46,201 --> 00:50:48,441
then I'll just have to do it on my own

673
00:50:48,441 --> 00:50:50,741
and use the phone that shitty phone that I've been using

674
00:50:50,741 --> 00:50:52,321
for streaming my damn

675
00:50:52,321 --> 00:50:54,021
my bartending so

676
00:50:54,921 --> 00:50:56,441
That's actually worked out well, though.

677
00:50:56,541 --> 00:50:59,281
I mean, it looks like it's in 4K when I'm watching the bartending.

678
00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:00,981
You know what?

679
00:51:01,101 --> 00:51:04,261
You can't read those credit card numbers, so you've got to give me cred for that.

680
00:51:06,221 --> 00:51:10,841
When I hand those cards over the bar, the quality is not so good that you can see the numbers.

681
00:51:11,801 --> 00:51:13,761
That's an important, you know, tidbit.

682
00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:16,281
Because I thought about that.

683
00:51:16,341 --> 00:51:18,841
I was like, man, this is sensitive information somebody might see.

684
00:51:20,921 --> 00:51:23,981
So how far away from the airport to Mobile is it?

685
00:51:24,021 --> 00:51:27,001
or to the event, I suppose.

686
00:51:28,221 --> 00:51:29,661
25, 30 minutes.

687
00:51:31,401 --> 00:51:31,761
Okay.

688
00:51:31,901 --> 00:51:33,581
And then this event,

689
00:51:33,681 --> 00:51:35,041
it's located somewhere

690
00:51:35,041 --> 00:51:37,181
where there's a decent amount of Airbnbs,

691
00:51:37,401 --> 00:51:39,141
hotels, motels, all that stuff.

692
00:51:39,801 --> 00:51:41,821
Yes, Q-Dub, we have paved roads.

693
00:51:41,921 --> 00:51:43,861
We quit riding donkeys years ago.

694
00:51:44,301 --> 00:51:44,981
All right.

695
00:51:45,021 --> 00:51:46,661
We just got internet last year

696
00:51:46,661 --> 00:51:48,241
and that's why my calls are dropping.

697
00:51:49,041 --> 00:51:50,041
You'll have to forgive me.

698
00:51:52,081 --> 00:51:54,001
No, everything, yeah, it's downtown.

699
00:51:54,021 --> 00:51:57,481
and it's a great spot.

700
00:51:57,801 --> 00:52:00,501
We have an upstairs to the bar that I work at,

701
00:52:00,881 --> 00:52:02,781
which is a mirrored floor plan to the bottom,

702
00:52:03,161 --> 00:52:05,541
and we are only using it as an event space at the moment

703
00:52:05,541 --> 00:52:07,741
because we cannot staff it quite yet.

704
00:52:08,201 --> 00:52:09,441
But it's ready to go.

705
00:52:09,561 --> 00:52:10,801
I mean, this place is awesome.

706
00:52:12,161 --> 00:52:13,961
Noster Valley, what was that setting?

707
00:52:14,081 --> 00:52:16,361
Because I believe that was in College Town.

708
00:52:16,361 --> 00:52:16,681
Yeah.

709
00:52:17,621 --> 00:52:19,861
And I ask this because I'm curious

710
00:52:19,861 --> 00:52:22,361
because some of these settings are just a little different,

711
00:52:22,361 --> 00:52:24,221
different, which is great.

712
00:52:24,221 --> 00:52:25,321
It was a one-day event.

713
00:52:26,281 --> 00:52:28,861
It was actually a five-hour event

714
00:52:28,861 --> 00:52:30,841
that began around noon,

715
00:52:31,081 --> 00:52:33,721
and it was in a brewery.

716
00:52:36,061 --> 00:52:37,701
This is the event in Pennsylvania

717
00:52:37,701 --> 00:52:38,561
last October.

718
00:52:41,601 --> 00:52:44,781
Yeah, and then Nostra PHX Culture Shock

719
00:52:44,781 --> 00:52:46,041
was downtown,

720
00:52:46,221 --> 00:52:47,521
just a few minutes

721
00:52:47,521 --> 00:52:49,801
on the west side of downtown Phoenix

722
00:52:49,801 --> 00:52:51,581
in like a warehouse district.

723
00:52:51,581 --> 00:52:55,841
And then Nostra Village was obviously a pub key.

724
00:52:56,921 --> 00:53:01,761
A lot of these revolvers, some of them are in just the low-hanging fruit of a bar,

725
00:53:02,201 --> 00:53:03,821
because everyone enjoys a bar.

726
00:53:04,381 --> 00:53:10,321
And then others are in just different forums where, you know, you might not have a liquor license,

727
00:53:10,501 --> 00:53:13,121
or you kind of have to play the game there, right?

728
00:53:17,121 --> 00:53:20,641
So, Sergio, anything else about Nostra Bama?

729
00:53:20,641 --> 00:53:22,681
you want the listeners to know about?

730
00:53:23,681 --> 00:53:28,501
And I guess what ultimately inspired you to do it?

731
00:53:29,221 --> 00:53:31,781
You just wanted to kind of light the fire locally?

732
00:53:34,601 --> 00:53:39,041
Honestly, I wanted it because I wanted to make cool merch.

733
00:53:39,681 --> 00:53:41,661
But it turned into much more than that

734
00:53:41,661 --> 00:53:43,381
because I love the Nostra merch.

735
00:53:43,521 --> 00:53:58,602
I a merch whore I bought everything off Lightning Store and Juxtaposition You know I was like I want to go to the events to get the shirts and i was like if i can make a really cool shirt design everything else will fall into place because i have the event space i have the shirt we can print

736
00:53:58,602 --> 00:54:08,062
the everything so um really i mean everyone anyone can come rcps are on formster um you know we've

737
00:54:08,062 --> 00:54:13,562
got about uh 23 confirmed people coming which is plenty it's manageable logistically we can we can

738
00:54:13,562 --> 00:54:21,362
handle that. I think any more would be a little tough, you know, for a three-day event. But yeah,

739
00:54:21,402 --> 00:54:26,682
it's going to be a great time. I really, I've put a lot of effort into this and it's been a group

740
00:54:26,682 --> 00:54:33,622
effort. I couldn't have done it without a lot of these guys. I would, I would really suggest that

741
00:54:33,622 --> 00:54:38,882
everybody try to do a meetup locally and with whatever it is that you can do just to get

742
00:54:38,882 --> 00:54:43,962
like-minded people together. Maybe you might meet, you know, some Bitcoiners that you hit it off with.

743
00:54:44,442 --> 00:54:50,362
I didn't know Riddler before Noster and he was in the same town and he was going to South Alabama

744
00:54:50,362 --> 00:54:56,962
and he came and met me at the bar. And, uh, I was like two or three years ago and now he's like one

745
00:54:56,962 --> 00:55:03,542
of my best friends. So, you know, you never know. You might meet somebody. How long did that cult,

746
00:55:03,542 --> 00:55:06,602
that Nostra PHX shirt, that cream one last.

747
00:55:08,042 --> 00:55:09,962
Oh, dude, I'm such a messy eater.

748
00:55:10,142 --> 00:55:12,402
It has a stain on it now, but I love it.

749
00:55:12,402 --> 00:55:17,022
It's probably after I went to Cancun

750
00:55:17,022 --> 00:55:18,582
when I was eating street tacos.

751
00:55:19,602 --> 00:55:21,502
That's probably, it lasted maybe like two months

752
00:55:21,502 --> 00:55:24,362
before I really, I just ruined it.

753
00:55:25,022 --> 00:55:26,842
That's a tough one too, right?

754
00:55:27,522 --> 00:55:29,782
Because Bitcoin merch, Lightning Store,

755
00:55:30,022 --> 00:55:32,142
I always default to the darker colors

756
00:55:32,142 --> 00:55:33,142
because I have a toddler.

757
00:55:33,542 --> 00:55:39,882
because you want them to last, right? It's cotton. It's thick cotton that's going to last a lot of

758
00:55:39,882 --> 00:55:47,782
washes. It's built strong. And those light colors are, it's tough. It's tough, man. I mean,

759
00:55:47,822 --> 00:55:53,102
and I'm a messy eater. I'm not going to lie. So I can't have white shirts. That's a big no-no.

760
00:55:53,842 --> 00:55:57,842
I want to go back to what you were talking about, about getting on Xero,

761
00:55:58,382 --> 00:56:02,402
because I remember that post you did. And it was a very popular post because you

762
00:56:02,402 --> 00:56:07,722
kind of announced it. I think you said I closed my bank account. I'm getting on zero,

763
00:56:07,922 --> 00:56:12,482
doing everything through strike. Tell me about kind of the wins and losses there.

764
00:56:14,102 --> 00:56:20,202
So the benefits of doing that, the way that you would have to do it, if you had listened to Jack

765
00:56:20,202 --> 00:56:25,422
Mahler's the way that he suggested to do it, would be if you have an established credit line,

766
00:56:25,422 --> 00:56:32,902
you would spend in credit and use the BTC bill pay of strike to pay that credit off.

767
00:56:33,222 --> 00:56:37,682
And you would just move funds from your hardware wall or from wherever, maybe direct deposit from

768
00:56:37,682 --> 00:56:43,542
your, from your, your work into your, your strike and use that as your bank account.

769
00:56:43,782 --> 00:56:48,902
It's in effect, replacing your, your legacy bank account with strike as your bank account,

770
00:56:49,022 --> 00:56:52,962
which is still, you know, it's not self custody. It's not perfect, but it's, it's what we got at

771
00:56:52,962 --> 00:56:57,502
the moment. Okay. These are the railways that we can use where it's not perfect, but it works.

772
00:56:58,242 --> 00:57:07,462
And my, my biggest challenge was honestly a user error on my part, because I was getting rent

773
00:57:07,462 --> 00:57:15,962
deducted on a certain day and I had transferred maybe an hour before that deduction had was going

774
00:57:15,962 --> 00:57:22,082
to be made. And I didn't get the six confirmations in time. And so I couldn't pay my rent. And then

775
00:57:22,082 --> 00:57:26,762
I got charged an extra 50 bucks because I didn't notice. And, you know, they, they hit me with the

776
00:57:26,762 --> 00:57:31,262
fees. And so that was user error that that's not anything to do with, with strike, but that's one

777
00:57:31,262 --> 00:57:34,242
of the things that you wouldn't have to worry about if you just had a regular bank account and

778
00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:39,122
you had your funds in there, right. Is that it just gets taken out whenever and you don't have

779
00:57:39,122 --> 00:57:43,622
to move it because that is your supposed self custody. We all know it's not, but it's their

780
00:57:43,622 --> 00:57:50,582
money. You're just allowing them to hold it for you, I guess. Um, but the, I think the benefits

781
00:57:50,582 --> 00:57:58,122
of doing what I did is it's kind of time in beats timing, right?

782
00:57:58,222 --> 00:57:58,682
The market.

783
00:57:59,142 --> 00:58:00,242
You don't want to time the market.

784
00:58:00,362 --> 00:58:01,882
You just want to spend time in the market.

785
00:58:02,002 --> 00:58:06,382
You don't want to lose sleep over, oh, am I going to trade in and out?

786
00:58:06,422 --> 00:58:07,982
Am I going to buy at this price?

787
00:58:08,122 --> 00:58:09,542
Don't even fucking look at the price.

788
00:58:09,542 --> 00:58:15,122
Just automate it, denominate your life in Bitcoin, and move on.

789
00:58:16,142 --> 00:58:17,502
Don't worry about it.

790
00:58:17,502 --> 00:58:21,482
eventually you'll have so much money you won't even know what to do with it.

791
00:58:21,482 --> 00:58:26,542
You know, you can just live whatever vacation dream style living you want.

792
00:58:26,762 --> 00:58:30,322
I play golf more times a week than, than I, than I work.

793
00:58:30,442 --> 00:58:31,622
I never thought that would be possible.

794
00:58:33,802 --> 00:58:36,962
And it's, it's Bitcoin that's made that possible for me.

795
00:58:37,042 --> 00:58:43,302
So I really, you know, I think it's a cool, cool thing to, to experience firsthand.

796
00:58:43,302 --> 00:59:00,462
And I would suggest if you can, you know, and I know everybody's tolerance for risk or portfolio management is different, but getting 100% Bitcoin changes your life 100%.

797
00:59:00,462 --> 00:59:08,462
So, Sergio, as someone who's tried this before, how long did that experiment last, by the way, the get on zero?

798
00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:16,662
it probably lasted uh i would say four months four or five months and you said it was user era

799
00:59:16,662 --> 00:59:23,282
that sort of you had to back out of it and by the way i'm still doing the same thing i just have

800
00:59:23,282 --> 00:59:28,922
i just still now have a legacy bank account adjacent to the system that i had been using

801
00:59:28,922 --> 00:59:36,082
i'm still using as a as a backup just in case i need to you know deduct ach whatever and i would

802
00:59:36,082 --> 00:59:42,862
have to cash out of my Bitcoin to do that because I hold nearly no dollars. I turn everything into

803
00:59:42,862 --> 00:59:55,122
Bitcoin. So I'm very poor, actually. I'm dollar poor. You know, Avi, I did notice that when you

804
00:59:55,122 --> 01:00:02,282
made that announcement, Bitcoin was at around $108K and then it dropped to about $70K. Were

805
01:00:02,282 --> 01:00:05,602
Are you thinking maybe you're getting on zeroed for a moment?

806
01:00:07,282 --> 01:00:08,602
Or getting to zero.

807
01:00:09,782 --> 01:00:14,562
And by the way, QW sounds like he's in the middle of a torrential downpour.

808
01:00:15,442 --> 01:00:15,602
I think...

809
01:00:16,482 --> 01:00:23,282
Dude, so if I can paint this picture, I'm in the forest and I'm under a tent.

810
01:00:23,962 --> 01:00:27,042
I'll send a video of this, but it just started pouring rain.

811
01:00:27,562 --> 01:00:30,862
And I'm just hanging out with the sound.

812
01:00:30,862 --> 01:00:33,402
Oh, it's definitely raining right now and there's thunder.

813
01:00:33,742 --> 01:00:35,282
Dude, I thought it was your shitty mic.

814
01:00:35,402 --> 01:00:37,382
I was like, can't you buy a better microphone, bro?

815
01:00:38,182 --> 01:00:56,462
Dude it pretty wicked right now but I here for it I thought your mic was as bad as my internet for a minute there That what I thought it was Well we get very little rain here but yeah yeah you got to escape the heat in Phoenix

816
01:00:56,682 --> 01:00:57,302
That's for sure.

817
01:00:57,302 --> 01:01:01,962
When the summertime comes, it's time to abandon the desert.

818
01:01:04,582 --> 01:01:06,982
That is, I can hear the thunder now.

819
01:01:07,182 --> 01:01:08,042
That is something.

820
01:01:09,002 --> 01:01:11,042
So, Sergio, would you...

821
01:01:12,082 --> 01:01:14,842
So, for someone who wants to start off in this,

822
01:01:14,882 --> 01:01:16,522
and let's say they're in their early 20s,

823
01:01:16,722 --> 01:01:18,702
and they're figuring out what to do with their lives,

824
01:01:18,782 --> 01:01:20,542
but they're sold on Bitcoin, right?

825
01:01:20,942 --> 01:01:23,702
But they don't know where to begin.

826
01:01:24,042 --> 01:01:26,062
They want to exit the legacy system,

827
01:01:26,342 --> 01:01:28,322
and they want to get to that life, you're saying,

828
01:01:28,442 --> 01:01:31,482
which is playing golf or whatever it is.

829
01:01:31,482 --> 01:01:35,882
They want to do more than they would otherwise.

830
01:01:36,882 --> 01:01:39,602
How would they get started doing that?

831
01:01:39,682 --> 01:01:44,722
Because you need money to stack, to get yourself into that position.

832
01:01:44,722 --> 01:01:47,982
You do need money.

833
01:01:48,182 --> 01:01:52,702
And in order to have money and make money, you have to understand what money really is, right?

834
01:01:53,082 --> 01:01:55,482
It's time and energy wrapped up in a unit of account.

835
01:01:55,782 --> 01:02:05,482
You better choose your unit of account wisely because we have one unit of account that's able to be debased by a handful of men in suits in an ivory tower.

836
01:02:05,882 --> 01:02:14,482
Right. And then we have Bitcoin. And so you can now get a job and get a direct deposit into strike.

837
01:02:14,982 --> 01:02:18,742
And then after you've accumulated enough money, you can buy a hardware wallet.

838
01:02:19,342 --> 01:02:23,882
I would suggest, you know, a Jade green. It's not going to break the bank. It's like 70 bucks.

839
01:02:24,062 --> 01:02:28,362
You can self custody the majority of your savings. Treat that as your savings in your bank account.

840
01:02:28,362 --> 01:02:36,322
And then you can spend with lightning, try to spend with lightning or credit if you can.

841
01:02:36,402 --> 01:02:48,142
If you can't spend with credit, you can still use a bank with a credit or debit card given to you by a central party, and then you can pay that off.

842
01:02:48,142 --> 01:02:59,162
But it's important to park your time and energy in a unit of account that isn't debased 24-7, 365, from here until forever.

843
01:02:59,682 --> 01:03:11,302
So for folks who are unfamiliar with the process, you get a fiat credit card, right, Citibank, whatever it is, Bank of America, MasterCard, Visa, or American Express.

844
01:03:11,822 --> 01:03:16,122
How would you connect that to your strike account to pay off the balance?

845
01:03:18,142 --> 01:03:43,082
So under settings and strike, you have the bill pay option. And under that option, it gives you a routing and account number. And it's Cross River Bank. And if you plug those numbers into, let's say, an ACH withdrawal system that you could use under your credit card, or if you're paying rent, I'm sure there's forms that you can fill out to any entity that accepts routing and banking information.

846
01:03:43,082 --> 01:03:54,382
You're basically using the established framework that we've always known, but you're subsidizing the unit of account to Bitcoin and they're exchanging that in the background for you.

847
01:03:54,742 --> 01:03:54,922
Got it.

848
01:03:55,422 --> 01:03:57,482
There are tax implications, obviously.

849
01:03:57,682 --> 01:04:03,962
I would suggest you consult your tax professional as to what those implications are in whatever region you're in, but it's an option.

850
01:04:03,962 --> 01:04:16,962
Got it. So Strike solves this problem by having, I guess, a facade or a front end which has the routing number and account number, which you can then, when you create your...

851
01:04:16,962 --> 01:04:18,662
It's funny.

852
01:04:19,422 --> 01:04:23,102
It's funny because Strike is the middleman that we need at the moment.

853
01:04:23,802 --> 01:04:32,562
And, you know, companies like Strike are middlemanning where it's like we're living in an alternate dimension compared to normal people.

854
01:04:32,562 --> 01:04:43,742
We've already accepted Bitcoin as a unit of account. We have to wait for the big institutions to catch up to us so that we can get rid of the middlemen because they need to start accepting it directly and not having third parties do it.

855
01:04:44,282 --> 01:04:52,002
And I don't know in what time frame that happens, but I know it's going to happen. I can't tell you when, but it has to happen.

856
01:04:52,002 --> 01:05:00,822
Yeah. Much like you would be able to transact with the dollar or the euro or the yen or whatever at the moment. Everybody takes it, right?

857
01:05:00,822 --> 01:05:04,942
Well, eventually, you're going to have two set prices in grocery stores.

858
01:05:05,042 --> 01:05:06,642
It's going to be in sats and it's going to be in dollars.

859
01:05:06,962 --> 01:05:15,542
There's going to be a major discount in sats and you're going to have to be – you're going to be forced to go that route because you're not going to want to spend 20, 30, 40 percent more using the dollar.

860
01:05:16,202 --> 01:05:17,342
It would be insane.

861
01:05:17,902 --> 01:05:22,302
I think the next step in the evolution is likely not going to be perfect as well.

862
01:05:22,422 --> 01:05:28,002
So right now, we're still in this world of ACH, routing numbers and bank account numbers, right?

863
01:05:28,002 --> 01:05:29,942
but I think the next

864
01:05:29,942 --> 01:05:31,342
it's archaic

865
01:05:31,342 --> 01:05:33,342
that's got to die very very quickly

866
01:05:33,342 --> 01:05:34,262
can't die soon enough

867
01:05:34,262 --> 01:05:36,342
I think the next step in that evolution

868
01:05:36,342 --> 01:05:38,042
if I had to take a guess Sergio

869
01:05:38,042 --> 01:05:40,702
again wouldn't be the perfect solution

870
01:05:40,702 --> 01:05:41,822
of them suddenly saying

871
01:05:41,822 --> 01:05:43,602
hey we're switching to eCash

872
01:05:43,602 --> 01:05:45,642
or LNURL

873
01:05:45,642 --> 01:05:47,762
it's probably going to be this

874
01:05:47,762 --> 01:05:49,202
UMA address

875
01:05:49,202 --> 01:05:50,562
universal money address

876
01:05:50,562 --> 01:05:53,222
that the LightSpark guys have come out with

877
01:05:53,222 --> 01:05:54,082
so I think they

878
01:05:54,082 --> 01:05:57,322
at least you get rid of the

879
01:05:57,322 --> 01:06:06,662
routing number and the bank account number, right? That ACH nonsense. And you move to some

880
01:06:06,662 --> 01:06:12,662
kind of hybrid lightning model where you have this universal money identifier that looks like an email

881
01:06:12,662 --> 01:06:20,602
address, but it's really light spark infrastructure that's doing some kind of mapping between that and

882
01:06:20,602 --> 01:06:26,562
the rails. And I think maybe the final evolution would be something that's more akin to the world

883
01:06:26,562 --> 01:06:29,942
we're living in today, us, the folks listening to this show.

884
01:06:30,602 --> 01:06:30,702
Yeah.

885
01:06:31,142 --> 01:06:36,462
And this also ties into the meetups because, you know, these Bitcoin citadels are not going

886
01:06:36,462 --> 01:06:37,262
to be built for you.

887
01:06:37,382 --> 01:06:38,202
You have to build them.

888
01:06:39,002 --> 01:06:45,622
And these are places where I think it would be, you'd be remiss if you weren't able to

889
01:06:45,622 --> 01:06:51,762
spend in sats at these meetups and start this circular economy at the ground level in a

890
01:06:51,762 --> 01:06:52,542
grassroots movement.

891
01:06:52,542 --> 01:06:58,802
you know don't wait around for the the powers that be to tell you what to use just start using it and

892
01:06:58,802 --> 01:07:03,762
and building stuff from the ground up it's going to take a long time it's going to be hard some

893
01:07:03,762 --> 01:07:08,062
people might hate you for it because they don't understand it yet but a lot of people will thank

894
01:07:08,062 --> 01:07:13,702
you in the end i think if you just you know just get people together and start talking about it

895
01:07:13,702 --> 01:07:20,902
um there's plenty of examples as to as to you know it working you know as just the fact that

896
01:07:20,902 --> 01:07:23,482
You could pay for coffee at Bitcoin Park.

897
01:07:23,562 --> 01:07:30,722
That's a major win because that's one of the main narratives that you would hear on the news where people would say, you know, the talking heads would say you can't pay for coffee.

898
01:07:31,522 --> 01:07:34,122
With Bitcoin, that's impossible.

899
01:07:34,262 --> 01:07:48,223
It like well you know I don see you shaving off any gold to pay for it either Right So Sergio as someone who pushing the Bitcoin as money use case right the circular economies medium of exchange

900
01:07:49,022 --> 01:07:55,202
have you found the current climate challenging? I mean, we've been seeing in the last six to eight

901
01:07:55,202 --> 01:08:02,402
months where there's been immense pushback within the Bitcoin community, within certain elements of

902
01:08:02,402 --> 01:08:08,802
the Bitcoin community against the Bitcoin is money use case in favor of Bitcoin is cyber

903
01:08:08,802 --> 01:08:11,322
Manhattan, Bitcoin is digital gold and all of that.

904
01:08:11,322 --> 01:08:17,623
So have you found that challenging as you try to orange pill your community in Alabama?

905
01:08:18,623 --> 01:08:27,503
I think that it's better to show people how it works than to try to convince someone that

906
01:08:27,503 --> 01:08:28,142
they should use it.

907
01:08:28,142 --> 01:08:34,182
I think you just say, hey, you know, let me buy your your your ticket for the concert or whatever.

908
01:08:34,243 --> 01:08:36,682
You just pay me back. Oh, but can you pay me back in Bitcoin?

909
01:08:37,042 --> 01:08:40,542
Oh, well, you can actually pay me 10 percent less than the ticket's worth if you do it that way.

910
01:08:41,343 --> 01:08:43,022
Even the incentives, you know.

911
01:08:44,322 --> 01:08:52,983
If I if I had houses and I had renters, I'd be like, hey, I'm now taking Bitcoin as an option and your rent's going to be 10 10 percent less.

912
01:08:53,402 --> 01:08:55,902
You think people are going to take that? I would take it.

913
01:08:55,902 --> 01:09:06,983
And so you have to almost present it in a favorable way so that people are at least – it peaks their curiosity and say, well, I could save some money.

914
01:09:07,863 --> 01:09:09,302
You have to make it – people are greedy.

915
01:09:09,802 --> 01:09:10,942
There's fear and greed in people.

916
01:09:11,103 --> 01:09:13,343
You can only apply to those two things to markets, right?

917
01:09:13,562 --> 01:09:17,662
So apply – pick at that – nudge that greed out of people.

918
01:09:19,882 --> 01:09:21,402
And it's a dependable motivator.

919
01:09:21,542 --> 01:09:22,562
So is fear, right?

920
01:09:22,562 --> 01:09:23,562
But you don't want to go the fear route.

921
01:09:24,382 --> 01:09:25,263
Nobody wants that.

922
01:09:25,902 --> 01:09:37,623
But it's up to people to offer those solutions. Because right now I think we're living on an island. Like Bitcoiners are on an island where it's – I mean the roads are being built off the island.

923
01:09:37,623 --> 01:09:45,942
But like it really does feel somewhat isolated. Like we had a little cyberpunk movement going and now everybody – you're seeing the suits come in, right?

924
01:09:46,263 --> 01:09:53,682
And now all of a sudden they're saying things that the old Bitcoiners used to say and then you're like, this is just a grifter. Like they don't believe what they're saying.

925
01:09:53,682 --> 01:09:58,042
They're just getting likes and views and clicks and attention.

926
01:09:59,263 --> 01:10:05,223
You know, I feel like Geraldo Rivera right now in a hurricane, reporting-wise.

927
01:10:07,363 --> 01:10:09,422
It's getting pretty wicked over here.

928
01:10:09,483 --> 01:10:13,123
QW, you are barely audible all the way.

929
01:10:18,402 --> 01:10:19,922
Geraldo Rivera, indeed.

930
01:10:20,483 --> 01:10:22,042
It really is an interesting show.

931
01:10:23,682 --> 01:10:25,782
I'm just waiting for the wind.

932
01:10:25,782 --> 01:10:27,382
It sounds like it's a branch of a downpour.

933
01:10:28,123 --> 01:10:29,503
It's pretty wicked, man.

934
01:10:30,662 --> 01:10:31,142
Crazy.

935
01:10:31,822 --> 01:10:34,583
So anything else we've got to look forward to?

936
01:10:34,623 --> 01:10:36,642
Obviously, you're definitely trying to do a repeat.

937
01:10:37,202 --> 01:10:38,282
What's next for Sergio?

938
01:10:38,822 --> 01:10:41,062
Are you going to expand your ZapDot stream catalog?

939
01:10:41,583 --> 01:10:43,402
Anything else inspiring you forward?

940
01:10:44,902 --> 01:10:46,583
I couldn't hear a single word you said.

941
01:10:46,583 --> 01:10:48,162
He said, what's next?

942
01:10:48,963 --> 01:10:50,623
I was able to catch that, Sergio.

943
01:10:51,522 --> 01:10:52,243
What's next?

944
01:10:53,083 --> 01:10:53,343
Yeah.

945
01:10:53,343 --> 01:10:54,202
What's next?

946
01:10:56,162 --> 01:10:59,402
Well, I mean, Nostra Bama's what's next.

947
01:10:59,503 --> 01:11:03,442
And then after that, then I have a whole year to plan and think about the next one.

948
01:11:03,583 --> 01:11:07,243
But until then, I really just live in a bubble.

949
01:11:07,243 --> 01:11:11,223
I go to work, I go to the gym, I go to the pool and I play golf.

950
01:11:12,062 --> 01:11:14,182
And other than that, I'm on Nostra.

951
01:11:15,022 --> 01:11:17,522
I try to keep it simple, you know.

952
01:11:17,522 --> 01:11:24,603
And you post the cigar photos as well, which I am appreciative of as a fellow connoisseur myself.

953
01:11:25,022 --> 01:11:29,322
I love my cigars. My wife hates my cigars, but I love my cigars.

954
01:11:29,322 --> 01:11:31,322
As is usually the case.

955
01:11:31,682 --> 01:11:35,802
I started smoking two years ago, and it's changed so many things.

956
01:11:35,882 --> 01:11:40,442
I love pairing, you know, coffee with them. I love pairing cocktails with them.

957
01:11:40,442 --> 01:11:47,302
I think there's so many different varieties and flavors and binder filler wrapper, you know, mixes that it's a fun world.

958
01:11:47,522 --> 01:11:48,562
It's really cool.

959
01:11:49,123 --> 01:11:51,763
And it teaches you to – it's a low time preference thing too.

960
01:11:51,882 --> 01:11:54,503
It teaches you to sit down and chill for about an hour.

961
01:11:55,322 --> 01:11:57,263
It takes about that long to go through a stogie.

962
01:11:58,202 --> 01:12:00,682
And you get to talk to people and just relax.

963
01:12:01,422 --> 01:12:02,503
Slow down a little bit.

964
01:12:02,763 --> 01:12:03,843
You don't have to be go, go, go.

965
01:12:03,902 --> 01:12:09,182
You know, what I love is, yes, when you're with people, you just have these really chill and mellow conversations.

966
01:12:09,302 --> 01:12:14,302
I've never seen a fight or an argument between people smoking cigars, right?

967
01:12:14,302 --> 01:12:18,562
You know what I don't see when I go to my cigar bar?

968
01:12:18,743 --> 01:12:20,723
People always on their phone.

969
01:12:20,763 --> 01:12:23,003
You know, you see a lot of people socially, they're always on their phones.

970
01:12:23,402 --> 01:12:26,042
When I'm at a cigar bar, I'm talking to people and they're talking back.

971
01:12:26,202 --> 01:12:28,642
And hardly ever do you see someone glued to their phone.

972
01:12:29,603 --> 01:12:30,282
It's amazing.

973
01:12:30,483 --> 01:12:30,622
It is.

974
01:12:31,083 --> 01:12:32,603
It's really cool to see.

975
01:12:33,302 --> 01:12:34,902
It's almost like you're living in the 90s.

976
01:12:34,902 --> 01:12:35,182
Oh, yeah.

977
01:12:35,322 --> 01:12:40,622
Well, hopefully Bitcoin takes us back to good culture.

978
01:12:40,922 --> 01:12:41,822
Maybe that's coming.

979
01:12:44,302 --> 01:12:44,983
Absolutely.

980
01:12:46,622 --> 01:12:47,302
Yeah.

981
01:12:47,843 --> 01:12:52,983
Hey, Sergio, appreciate you taking the time here

982
01:12:52,983 --> 01:12:59,843
and telling us all about Nostabama, what to expect.

983
01:13:00,003 --> 01:13:05,702
So, folks, if you're listening and if you're around the Mobile, Alabama area,

984
01:13:06,062 --> 01:13:09,322
do make it out to Nostabama.

985
01:13:09,322 --> 01:13:12,322
It is from July 14th to the 17th.

986
01:13:12,322 --> 01:13:14,562
15th. Sergio's going to be the bartender.

987
01:13:15,382 --> 01:13:15,983
15th.

988
01:13:16,083 --> 01:13:18,243
July 14th to the 15th. I'm sorry.

989
01:13:18,343 --> 01:13:18,743
My bad.

990
01:13:20,122 --> 01:13:21,662
No, 15th to the 17th.

991
01:13:21,662 --> 01:13:23,882
July 15th to the 17th.

992
01:13:24,322 --> 01:13:25,562
Sergio's going to be the bartender.

993
01:13:25,843 --> 01:13:27,662
There's going to be skydiving. There's going to be

994
01:13:27,662 --> 01:13:30,263
fun guests and panels. There's going to be merch.

995
01:13:30,662 --> 01:13:32,182
There's going to be food. There's going to be

996
01:13:32,182 --> 01:13:34,282
dancing. There's going to be donkeys.

997
01:13:34,442 --> 01:13:35,782
What else did he say, Sergio?

998
01:13:35,902 --> 01:13:36,942
Oh, no, wait. There are no donkeys.

999
01:13:37,802 --> 01:13:40,223
There's going to be shitty internet. You can expect that.

1000
01:13:40,223 --> 01:13:45,083
we paved the roads last year for you guys

1001
01:13:45,083 --> 01:13:46,662
we're rolling out the red carpet

1002
01:13:46,662 --> 01:13:49,142
but most importantly Sergio

1003
01:13:49,142 --> 01:13:53,003
there are folks who are on the fence

1004
01:13:53,003 --> 01:13:54,503
about making it out there

1005
01:13:54,503 --> 01:13:57,843
there will be hopeful and freedom loving

1006
01:13:57,843 --> 01:14:00,983
nostrishes and you can be guaranteed a good time

1007
01:14:00,983 --> 01:14:03,202
so once again thank you

1008
01:14:03,202 --> 01:14:06,603
thank you Sergio for joining us

1009
01:14:06,603 --> 01:14:09,463
and thank you folks in our live audience

1010
01:14:09,463 --> 01:14:12,003
and those listening to this.

1011
01:14:12,223 --> 01:14:13,343
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1012
01:14:13,662 --> 01:14:14,702
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1013
01:14:15,583 --> 01:14:19,463
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1014
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1015
01:14:24,882 --> 01:14:29,182
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