1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,980 The noise of the week is behind us. 2 00:00:14,740 --> 00:00:16,260 The feed is off. 3 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:18,840 The record is spinning. 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,360 It's time to stop interviewing and start listening. 5 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Welcome to Sunday Brunch. 6 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:52,640 Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, you glorious guardians of gleaming gadgets. 7 00:00:53,660 --> 00:00:56,600 Welcome to the ninth serving of Sunday Brunch. 8 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,340 And today is, you guessed it, Sunday 9 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:02,500 It is the 8th of March 10 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:07,420 And very much brunch time on the east coast of the United States 11 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:09,700 Which can only mean one thing 12 00:01:09,700 --> 00:01:13,520 Your favorite music on the lightning-laced airwaves 13 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,900 Now, settle in 14 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,260 This is not your regular podcast 15 00:01:18,260 --> 00:01:20,320 I don't have any questions prepared 16 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:21,940 I don't have a sermon 17 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:26,560 And I won't be quizzing our guest about Praxeology 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,360 there's just a table 19 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,380 some coffee and a record player 20 00:01:31,380 --> 00:01:33,640 the guest is the DJ here 21 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,420 and because there is no corporate sponsor in the booth 22 00:01:37,420 --> 00:01:41,080 you are the ones keeping the coffee pot full 23 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,880 this is a value for value production 24 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,640 I don't run ads 25 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,000 this show runs on vibe 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,320 if you enjoyed the selection today 27 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,180 you can throw some sats in the digital tip jar 28 00:01:53,180 --> 00:01:57,100 by boosting on your favorite Podcasting 2.0 app 29 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,400 or zapping on Noster. 30 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:01,620 Here's the house rule. 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,640 When the needle drops, the sats follow. 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,540 90% of everything you stream during a song 33 00:02:08,540 --> 00:02:10,100 goes directly to the artist. 34 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:11,700 You are tipping the band. 35 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:15,180 When the music fades and we're just chatting, 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,360 you're buying around for the guest and me. 37 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:21,400 And my guest today is a man 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,860 who's doing tireless work onboarding musicians to the open music world. 39 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:29,560 Budtender from Hash Power Music is here 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,660 and has brought his own playlist with him. 41 00:02:32,060 --> 00:02:33,380 We're going to spin some tracks. 42 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:38,700 We're going to talk about whatever topics emerge in the silences between the music 43 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:45,060 and give everyone listening a chance to enter this decompression chamber after a long week. 44 00:02:45,060 --> 00:02:49,960 So, add a little more Tabasco to that Bloody Mary. 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:03:00,240 bartender welcome to sunday brunch hey abhi thanks for having me of course man so we met 46 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:09,340 once i believe it was at nosterville in 2023 the very first nosterville uh that's right 1.0 47 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:17,840 1.0 and uh there is a interesting uh coincidence or serendipity or synchronicity 48 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:25,520 with this show and that fateful event in Norsterville. 49 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,780 So it's been about three months or so 50 00:03:28,780 --> 00:03:31,840 since I've started playing Valley for Valley music. 51 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:36,780 Well, this show is primarily for that, 52 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:40,780 but also on my Friday Plep Chain Radio show 53 00:03:41,380 --> 00:03:42,840 where I play one song. 54 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,200 and the first song I picked was Closer to Somewhere 55 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:55,800 and then you pointed out that the song I played, 56 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,020 you were actually going to get recorded with the band 57 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:03,560 during Nostoville 2023 58 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,900 and I think, was it you wearing the Plep Chain Radio shirt 59 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:08,340 or was it someone from the band? 60 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:09,940 Yeah, no, that was me. 61 00:04:09,940 --> 00:04:17,660 um this is this is kind of a crazy thing right so um you know my my journey into all of this started 62 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:24,540 you know before my professional music sort of uh situation however you want to call it right 63 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:33,020 um so uh i'm i'm i guess i'm i'm my background i've always been very musical so i've started 64 00:04:33,020 --> 00:04:39,400 playing the violin when i was you know four or five years old um you know learned the piano 65 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,900 learned the guitar, learned the trumpet. You know, I was a band geek. I played in the marching band, 66 00:04:45,820 --> 00:04:51,720 you know, did that in college as well. And so I, you know, and I always, I always joke, you know, 67 00:04:51,820 --> 00:04:56,980 I've, I've failed at the guitar about a thousand times because I still can't play more than three 68 00:04:56,980 --> 00:05:01,640 songs, even though I've tried it all my life. But, but that being said though, you know, 69 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,480 I've always been very musical, but I've never, you know, been in music. I've always been, 70 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:16,440 I've actually been in tech and finance for most of my career. And so, you know, I eventually found 71 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,820 Bitcoin and I found Noster and I ended up at Nosterville. And this is, you know, it was just 72 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:28,140 one of those happenstance coincidences that even found Noster in the first place and then ended up 73 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:34,380 there. So already it was very unlikely that I'd be at Nosterville. You know, I had never been 74 00:05:34,380 --> 00:05:39,160 a Bitcoiner who went out and did stuff. I was always silent Bitcoiner. I just stacked on my own. 75 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,080 And then, but it wasn't until Nostra, I found Nostra and I said, oh man, like there's so much 76 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,900 more out here and there's so much more that we need to sort of give back to everybody, like all 77 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:53,160 this knowledge that we've accumulated, you know, and then just finding the community. So anyway, 78 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:00,680 so back to the story, right? So at Nostraville 1.0, you know, it just so happened that, you know, 79 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:07,600 it was, is in Nashville. And at the time we were about to go record for the retrograde. Um, and so 80 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:14,360 the, that was down in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, uh, just across the border. So I figured, you know 81 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,940 what, uh, let me just tack this onto the trip. Uh, you know, I'll hit Nosterville and then I'll 82 00:06:19,940 --> 00:06:26,640 record right after that. It would be perfect. And so, yeah, so I ended up meeting Avi, um, hanging 83 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:35,840 out there, had an incredible time, um, 102,000%, uh, you know, bought into the whole Nostra vibe, 84 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,980 everything that's kind of going on here. Uh, you know, the community was just incredible. 85 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:45,560 So, um, you know, so I ended up going down there recording and we decided, Hey, let's just take a 86 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,260 photo. All right, cool. Well, you know, I just come from Nostraville. So I had the t-shirt on 87 00:06:49,260 --> 00:06:55,340 and, uh, took a little photo and, you know, a few months later we go and start to put everything 88 00:06:55,340 --> 00:07:00,980 together and the band's like, Hey, I'd like to get a, you know, one last photo at the very end of 89 00:07:00,980 --> 00:07:05,220 the album, you know, cause we didn't have it in there originally. Um, we had like a whole different 90 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:08,640 setup and they were like, no, but we got to have this in there. Cause we got to have this in there. 91 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Okay. And they insisted on it and it was that photo. And so when Avi played it, uh, you know, 92 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,360 on that, that, that, uh, the very first one, I thought, wow, this is incredible because not only 93 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:27,640 is this the first like the first signing that we had um the first single that we released um it's 94 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:33,900 the first record that we we recorded so a whole lot of firsts um and this is what i love about 95 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:38,040 naster it just feels like everything happens to happen at the right time the right place like 96 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:47,860 very synchronistic i don't know uh was that so that's your t-shirt then yeah yeah that's my t-shirt 97 00:07:47,860 --> 00:07:56,900 That is a rare limited item one that does not exist anymore, but I might have a fairly high market value. 98 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:08,180 Now, that's the original grape purple Plep Chain radio shirt made by Lightning Store, which doesn't exist in that form anymore either. 99 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:14,400 It's screen printed and you're one of the few. 100 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,740 I mean, it's an incredibly high quality shirt. 101 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:19,740 The design is incredible. 102 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,940 I wear it to death and I know I can't get it again. 103 00:08:24,060 --> 00:08:29,280 So I'm like trying to ration the amount of times I can wear it per day, per week, you know. 104 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:35,920 But yeah, it's one of those things now. 105 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,420 It's got additional meaning, you know. 106 00:08:38,860 --> 00:08:39,840 Yeah, for sure. 107 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:48,020 and and and as you said uh that was the first song i played uh on plebs chain radio was uh 108 00:08:48,020 --> 00:08:52,700 closer to somewhere by the retrograde really love that song so and you mentioned they were the first 109 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:58,480 band you onboarded so maybe let's take a step back bartender and talk about uh your company 110 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:05,740 hash power music what is the goal yeah so sure so we're i said to abhi earlier because it's funny 111 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:07,520 because he was like, what do I call you? 112 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Because my identity is kind of all over the place 113 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,620 on Nostra and everything like that, right? 114 00:09:11,660 --> 00:09:14,060 And so I'll start from where we are, 115 00:09:14,140 --> 00:09:15,640 kind of work backwards and I don't know, 116 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,040 I'll try to make it logical as best I can. 117 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:23,420 But HashPower Music is kind of like our end game project. 118 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,840 HashPower Music is like, 119 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,760 this is the ultimate vision, right? 120 00:09:27,860 --> 00:09:29,940 Like when Bitcoiners say hyper-Bitcoinization, 121 00:09:30,660 --> 00:09:32,760 I'm talking the same thing with HashPower Music 122 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,100 in the music world, right? 123 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:37,940 because that's, it's, it's, it's really, it's just me and my partner. Let's be honest here. 124 00:09:38,620 --> 00:09:44,260 Me and my partner out in LA, we, you know, we actually, we started cannabis records, 125 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:51,920 you know, years ago before I found Noster before all of this. Right. And we had basically said, 126 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:58,580 hey, we want to create a label that's, that's artist friendly because everything's broken and 127 00:09:58,580 --> 00:10:06,420 totally fucked up. So he was, uh, his name is Johnny Castile. Uh, he played for a band called 128 00:10:06,420 --> 00:10:12,020 Castile back in the eighties. Uh, he opened for bands like Motley Crue, um, Cinderella, 129 00:10:12,020 --> 00:10:17,000 and like all of those like hair metal guys way back in the day. Um, and so he had gone, 130 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:23,800 come up with all of those guys, um, got signed and everything. Um, he then, you know, have went to, 131 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:32,560 Sony and as well as to Capitol Records doing A&R. And then he went on to do songwriting in Nashville. 132 00:10:32,740 --> 00:10:38,900 So he was he wrote he has like Blake Shelton credits. He has Chris or Miley Cyrus and a whole 133 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:43,980 bunch of other like pretty high profile guys. And then he went to publishing and then he sort of 134 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:49,580 looked at himself and said, now what? Right. What's the next thing? So and part of that whole 135 00:10:49,580 --> 00:10:56,220 journey for him was like, he was in, you know, in the depths of it all, right? And he saw all the 136 00:10:56,220 --> 00:11:00,980 stuff that was happening. And we've got stories, I mean, he's got stories that, wow, you know, 137 00:11:00,980 --> 00:11:06,700 that would blow your mind at like, how corrupt and screwed up this industry really is. There's 138 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:11,540 some really nasty stuff happening. And a lot of good people going down for bad things that 139 00:11:11,540 --> 00:11:19,420 they didn't do. Because, because of, you know, the industry needs to take them down, and they will. 140 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:22,480 So those are the things that kind of happened back there. 141 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:24,780 And so we said, look, we got to change the whole game up. 142 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,620 We need to do something different. 143 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,540 We've got the connections and everything that we need that could make it happen. 144 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,340 We just need a technology and we just need, you know, the quote unquote platform to do it. 145 00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:36,640 Right. 146 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:42,320 And I know that's kind of a dirty word around here, but we just need the ability to do this. 147 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,820 And so, you know, we racked our brains and we were trying the hardest we could. 148 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,700 And we thought, look, community is the way to do it. 149 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Right. 150 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:58,080 Like that was our whole shtick, like, you know, coming out of COVID and everything like that, people were yearning for like face to face communication, people being IRL, like meeting people. 151 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,320 So we thought we're going to create a social club. 152 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:01,760 We're going to do cannabis records. 153 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:08,420 We're going to have like a smoking lounge where you can hang out, listen to music and there's artists hanging out. 154 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Like it would be such a cool thing. 155 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:11,480 Right. So we want to our goal was create a community. 156 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:31,580 Well, we got to, you know, I went to Nosterville and then, you know, obviously I've been to Bitcoin and everything like that. And then, and during one of the talks, the Phantom Power stood up and he said something about Wavelake. 157 00:12:31,580 --> 00:12:38,040 and I was kind of thinking like, oh man, um, this is exactly what I've been looking for, 158 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,360 right? Something that can help the artist to self-host to sort of like to, to sort of self-host 159 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:49,160 and have, have, have their own, um, sovereignty right over their own music and everything like 160 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,080 that, because there've been all these stories and I'd heard it multiple times and seen it happen 161 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,700 where, um, you know, artists, they don't even own their own music. They can't do anything. Like 162 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:03,220 they'll sign a contract and their stuff gets shelved. And then afterwards, you know, they 163 00:13:03,220 --> 00:13:06,640 don't have all the full rights to it. And the whole thing becomes a huge mess. And we said, 164 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,600 screw all that. Like artists need to, you know, keep their own art. And so from there, right, 165 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,680 once we found Bitcoin, once we found Nostra, and we found RSS, and we found that holy cow, 166 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,560 there's this whole ecosystem out there that exists, this V4V music ecosystem, where 167 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:30,480 all the things that we wanted are here. It was just in its infancy. So, you know, the whole, 168 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:37,380 and what I love about Noster is you sort of get this vibe and this sort of type of people who say, 169 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,220 look, if things aren't the way I want them to be, I'm going to make them that way. I'm going to go 170 00:13:41,220 --> 00:13:47,240 out and build and do it. And so, you know, we've been leveraging the community and doing everything 171 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:58,956 that we can to push things forward And you know and everybody kind of following us following along with us has been awesome um and doing their thing and making it happen And now we see this explosion of artists right 172 00:13:59,496 --> 00:14:04,176 Um, you know, with everybody kind of coming on board, podcasters, artists, everyone, you 173 00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:05,636 know, fans, all of it. 174 00:14:06,296 --> 00:14:10,096 Um, and so, so long, long story short, what is hash power music, right? 175 00:14:10,156 --> 00:14:10,516 Hash power. 176 00:14:10,976 --> 00:14:12,956 We're like, like I said, that's the end game, right? 177 00:14:13,216 --> 00:14:17,136 So all the things that we're doing, um, we also have a management company called Bass 178 00:14:17,136 --> 00:14:21,476 entertainment where we, you know, manage ours, but we funnel everybody through, right? That's 179 00:14:21,476 --> 00:14:27,196 the ultimate goal. So we get people excited about, you know, the traditional legacy guys excited 180 00:14:27,196 --> 00:14:31,636 about a label, cannabis records coming on and being interested, right? We manage them through 181 00:14:31,636 --> 00:14:36,996 Basset and then ultimately funnel them all through our live acts and everything like that 182 00:14:36,996 --> 00:14:43,456 through the V4V music side of HashPower. So that's kind of like the way the plumbing works, 183 00:14:43,456 --> 00:14:44,436 I guess, from our end. 184 00:14:45,796 --> 00:14:49,816 So really, it is a modern take on the label, right? 185 00:14:49,956 --> 00:14:54,976 To keep the intermediary as lightweight as possible and not the rent. 186 00:14:55,456 --> 00:14:55,736 Yeah. 187 00:14:56,476 --> 00:14:56,736 Yeah. 188 00:14:56,856 --> 00:15:04,536 You know, we want to keep like there's something to be said about taking what worked and merging 189 00:15:04,536 --> 00:15:07,536 that with what things should be. 190 00:15:07,936 --> 00:15:08,096 Right. 191 00:15:08,096 --> 00:15:16,656 Right. Like even though, you know, I lambast the legacy music industry all the time, there are certain things that made sense. 192 00:15:16,756 --> 00:15:19,196 Right. And there's reasons that they did them that way and all that. 193 00:15:19,196 --> 00:15:24,036 But the problem is with all of these sort of legacy structures is they don't change with the times. 194 00:15:24,576 --> 00:15:30,616 And you saw that first happen with the music industry when, you know, Napster came on and digital music happened. 195 00:15:30,916 --> 00:15:36,076 They didn't follow suit and they started to fight it. And when you fight it, you know, everybody else fights back. 196 00:15:36,076 --> 00:15:39,596 and that started the downfall of the music industry. 197 00:15:40,956 --> 00:15:44,756 And so we look at it today and here's a second chance, right? 198 00:15:44,896 --> 00:15:48,516 Here's a second chance of doing right by technology, 199 00:15:48,896 --> 00:15:51,256 merging music and technology in the right way 200 00:15:51,256 --> 00:15:53,596 that actually helps artists and doesn't take advantage of them. 201 00:15:54,076 --> 00:15:56,916 And so we said, look, how can we do this the right way? 202 00:15:56,916 --> 00:15:58,816 We have a lot of these legacy connections, 203 00:15:58,916 --> 00:16:00,936 so we're still sort of tied into the legacy world, 204 00:16:01,016 --> 00:16:04,816 but how do we leverage that and bring that as a benefit 205 00:16:04,816 --> 00:16:09,916 to this like V for V world where, you know, where things are better, where the pastures are greener. 206 00:16:10,836 --> 00:16:15,096 And so, yeah. So like you said, that's a really great way to put it, right? It's a modern take 207 00:16:15,096 --> 00:16:20,556 on a lightweight label. We're vertically integrated in the sense that, you know, 208 00:16:20,556 --> 00:16:26,636 if you need artists, musicians sort of services, we can provide pretty much all of that. But our 209 00:16:26,636 --> 00:16:31,096 main goal and our main thing is like, look, we want to empower you. We want to do what's right 210 00:16:31,096 --> 00:16:37,256 for you and make it happen, you know, as an artist, because if you succeed, then everyone 211 00:16:37,256 --> 00:16:38,276 else does, right? 212 00:16:38,396 --> 00:16:44,156 If we are money grubbing and we take all of your rights and try to take all of your proprietary 213 00:16:44,156 --> 00:16:46,956 stuff, that's killing the golden goose, right? 214 00:16:47,436 --> 00:16:50,156 Like, why would I stifle creativity? 215 00:16:50,336 --> 00:16:55,376 Like, that's not like what you have shown me to this point today isn't all that you'll 216 00:16:55,376 --> 00:16:55,876 ever do. 217 00:16:55,876 --> 00:17:09,716 But if I be like the traditional labels and, you know, try to basically run these guys down as fast and as hard as they can so that you can churn another artist, right? 218 00:17:09,776 --> 00:17:11,796 That's sort of the legacy model. 219 00:17:12,096 --> 00:17:15,276 Well, that kills all the creative music, all the good music. 220 00:17:15,676 --> 00:17:16,776 And what do you end up with? 221 00:17:16,856 --> 00:17:18,376 Well, you end up with AI slop. 222 00:17:18,376 --> 00:17:26,716 You end up with, you know, songs that are exactly the same as the other one, you know, and they just change the genre or whatever. 223 00:17:27,016 --> 00:17:29,176 And all your music just kind of becomes copy pasta. 224 00:17:30,076 --> 00:17:31,356 And that's what we see today. 225 00:17:32,056 --> 00:17:43,376 You know, it's just hearing you say that button, you know, it just makes me think about the general affliction of centralized fiat platforms. 226 00:17:43,916 --> 00:17:47,936 There is always a ticking time bomb built in. 227 00:17:47,936 --> 00:18:01,316 You can have people who are completely idealistic, right, who set up these structures within the existing system, right, within the existing legacy rails, and they want to do the right thing, so on and so forth. 228 00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:09,656 The incentives are just not there for them to continue doing that because most of the money is through – I mean, it is the attention economy, right? 229 00:18:09,716 --> 00:18:11,516 So it's advertising and so on. 230 00:18:11,516 --> 00:18:17,196 So the ticking time bomb is at some point they realize they have to become predatory. 231 00:18:17,196 --> 00:18:20,876 their interests start diverging 232 00:18:20,876 --> 00:18:23,596 very quickly from the actual talent 233 00:18:23,596 --> 00:18:25,956 the artist's interest 234 00:18:25,956 --> 00:18:28,396 and you see this cannibalization 235 00:18:28,396 --> 00:18:30,396 happening 236 00:18:30,396 --> 00:18:32,896 you see the artist getting more and more sidelined 237 00:18:32,896 --> 00:18:36,816 and it really is like a virus 238 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:38,916 because what is the end game here 239 00:18:38,916 --> 00:18:42,456 like you were talking about cutting the goose that lays the golden eggs 240 00:18:42,456 --> 00:18:44,676 but that's what happens 241 00:18:44,676 --> 00:18:45,796 like a virus 242 00:18:45,796 --> 00:18:52,856 the end game is the virus dies because it's fully consumed the host is it's killed the host and 243 00:18:52,856 --> 00:18:57,816 that's what fiat is like right and it's we're talking about music right now it's true for 244 00:18:57,816 --> 00:19:03,236 everything else yeah it's it's true for everything i mean it's kind of like a universal sort of truth 245 00:19:03,236 --> 00:19:08,916 right like if you're if you're going to be a virus and you're going to consume your host at some 246 00:19:08,916 --> 00:19:14,556 point that host will die um whether it be music whether it be money or you know whether it be 247 00:19:14,556 --> 00:19:21,496 your relationships with other people, your, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's all of it. 248 00:19:21,896 --> 00:19:28,036 At the end of the day, you know, I think like people have to realize that we're all a community, 249 00:19:28,116 --> 00:19:32,276 we're all connected. As much as you like to be an individual and you like to be, 250 00:19:32,276 --> 00:19:38,156 you know, have selfish thoughts and everything like that, you know, what you do affects everyone 251 00:19:38,156 --> 00:19:43,936 else around you and vice versa. So like, why, why not live in a little bit more of a harmonious 252 00:19:43,936 --> 00:19:51,836 community. Right. And let's, let's, let's, you know, sacrifice just a tiny bit for a larger, 253 00:19:52,056 --> 00:19:55,916 greater good in the longterm. Right. It's just, it's, it's, it's the time, you know, lower your 254 00:19:55,916 --> 00:20:01,976 time preference sort of thing. Um, you know, and it's like, look, we could, we could be going out 255 00:20:01,976 --> 00:20:07,356 there and making a ton of money with all these artists that we've got, um, by locking them into 256 00:20:07,356 --> 00:20:15,436 multiple years of contracts, uh, taking all the rights to their masters indefinitely for anything 257 00:20:15,436 --> 00:20:21,216 that they create, you know, while we're there with us, um, you know, we can take 50% cut of 258 00:20:21,216 --> 00:20:28,416 everything plus if we wanted to, of all their stuff and, you know, everything from what they 259 00:20:28,416 --> 00:20:33,996 get from advertising all the way up to their music, uh, to their, you know, where they show 260 00:20:33,996 --> 00:20:38,516 up anywhere, like all of those things, every time they get a dollar, you know, we can take half of 261 00:20:38,516 --> 00:20:42,796 that if we wanted to, you know, if we set up those contracts that way. And the problem is, 262 00:20:43,116 --> 00:20:48,836 there's so many artists out there in this world. And they're all super talented, right? There's so 263 00:20:48,836 --> 00:20:54,116 many out there that are just absolutely mind-blowingly incredible. However, there's so 264 00:20:54,116 --> 00:21:00,476 many people that, you know, a lot of them will just jump at it. Because look, musicians, the only 265 00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:05,336 way to ever get to that top tier echelon of being a musician just from a skill perspective 266 00:21:05,336 --> 00:21:10,396 is practice, practice, and then a little bit more practice and then some more practice after that, 267 00:21:10,696 --> 00:21:15,216 right? You have to be hone your craft and you can't concentrate on anything else. You have to 268 00:21:15,216 --> 00:21:20,856 be thousand percent music only. So when it comes to contracts and business and all that stuff, 269 00:21:20,856 --> 00:21:23,676 it's so easy to take advantage of them, right? Because they don't know any better. 270 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:27,736 All they want is that signing so they can make more music, right? Thinking they can do, 271 00:21:27,736 --> 00:21:35,336 you know, make bigger and bigger, better, um, better songs. But the thing is, you know, 272 00:21:35,356 --> 00:21:40,176 once you sign a deal with the devil, they start to say, Hey, you know, I'm paying half of your, 273 00:21:40,436 --> 00:21:45,096 of all of this. So I get half of the say in what kind of songs you make, what you're going to say 274 00:21:45,096 --> 00:21:49,376 in these songs, you know, and, and you know what, this song is really good, but it's not going to 275 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:53,976 sell. So that's never going to see the light of day. Right. And they have full control over your 276 00:21:53,976 --> 00:22:02,156 catalog and everything. Um, I could do all that, but I don't. Why? Because I think music is 277 00:22:02,156 --> 00:22:09,276 important. I think, uh, you know, a human culture, uh, is passed down through generations, our 278 00:22:09,276 --> 00:22:15,176 ancestors, all of that, uh, came through music, right? Because before there was written word, 279 00:22:15,176 --> 00:22:19,916 before all of that, people sang songs and they told their stories that way. Um, that's embedded 280 00:22:19,916 --> 00:22:29,076 into like human nature so if we corrupt music and we allow it to to be taken and morphed in such a 281 00:22:29,076 --> 00:22:34,656 way um then then what are we what's our story right what's our human story like what what's 282 00:22:34,656 --> 00:22:41,856 our legacy that we're leaving is it this like bullshit fucked up like fakeness or are we going 283 00:22:41,856 --> 00:22:47,156 to allow like the passions of real artists shine through right and are we going to promote those 284 00:22:47,156 --> 00:22:53,076 songs the ones where like there's real soul to it um and so that's what you're saying what you're 285 00:22:53,076 --> 00:22:58,016 saying bartender is that you're not a virus because you're able to see that you will die if the host 286 00:22:58,016 --> 00:23:06,996 dies so you're able to think long term um yeah exactly exactly you know like you have to be able 287 00:23:06,996 --> 00:23:15,076 to see long term because like when i'm dead and gone all this music that we've created now is still 288 00:23:15,076 --> 00:23:19,256 going to be here my kids are going to enjoy it and their kids are going to enjoy it right and so 289 00:23:19,256 --> 00:23:26,796 we have to leave something positive and beautiful and incredible um and so you know i've been 290 00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:29,756 droning on for a while and i don't know if you want to play this next song because it actually 291 00:23:29,756 --> 00:23:35,596 yeah it's a decent segue to it um you know because this next song is um it's called favorite child 292 00:23:35,596 --> 00:23:40,576 um and it's written by the velvix and we can talk a little bit more about the velvix because that's a 293 00:23:40,576 --> 00:23:41,396 kind of a fun, 294 00:23:41,856 --> 00:23:42,436 interesting, 295 00:23:42,656 --> 00:23:43,576 kind of crazy story. 296 00:23:45,056 --> 00:23:45,216 Yeah. 297 00:23:45,416 --> 00:23:46,436 Why don't we play the song? 298 00:23:47,036 --> 00:23:47,916 Why don't we play the song? 299 00:23:48,016 --> 00:23:48,876 And then we'll, 300 00:23:48,936 --> 00:23:50,936 we'll talk about the band and the song. 301 00:23:52,136 --> 00:23:53,056 This is 302 00:23:53,056 --> 00:23:56,136 Favorite Child by The Velvix. 303 00:23:56,136 --> 00:24:09,976 Hold me by the hands 304 00:24:09,976 --> 00:24:15,196 Hold them tight 305 00:24:15,196 --> 00:24:17,196 Time, time, time. 306 00:24:21,196 --> 00:24:25,196 Hmm. 307 00:24:25,196 --> 00:24:29,196 Like if you'd hold up a... 308 00:24:29,196 --> 00:24:31,196 Hmm. 309 00:24:34,196 --> 00:24:38,196 Hmm. 310 00:24:38,196 --> 00:24:42,196 And I'll stay. 311 00:24:45,196 --> 00:24:51,036 I'll stay 312 00:24:51,036 --> 00:24:55,876 Oh 313 00:24:55,876 --> 00:25:04,196 You're my favorite child 314 00:25:12,196 --> 00:25:14,996 Oh, somewhere else 315 00:25:14,996 --> 00:25:17,756 Somewhere warm and safe 316 00:25:17,756 --> 00:25:23,996 Somewhere closer to God 317 00:25:23,996 --> 00:25:36,616 And I'll wait 318 00:25:36,616 --> 00:25:43,336 Always 319 00:26:06,616 --> 00:26:36,596 Thank you. 320 00:26:36,616 --> 00:26:50,456 So why are you confronting me? 321 00:26:55,176 --> 00:26:58,216 Hiding the beauty and the joy from it 322 00:26:58,216 --> 00:27:02,156 Hidden places, nowhere to be found 323 00:27:06,616 --> 00:27:15,656 And the more I sleep on it, the more I dodge the feeling of seeing you again 324 00:27:15,656 --> 00:27:25,156 This can take away the pain from me 325 00:27:25,156 --> 00:27:32,036 This can take away the pain from me 326 00:27:36,616 --> 00:27:39,656 has all been contacted. 327 00:27:43,996 --> 00:28:11,612 Lauren Hadnard Why are you 328 00:28:11,612 --> 00:28:17,532 Come from to me 329 00:28:17,532 --> 00:28:25,852 Place in the view 330 00:28:25,852 --> 00:28:32,092 There's nowhere to be found 331 00:28:32,092 --> 00:28:39,032 So why are you 332 00:28:39,032 --> 00:28:44,032 Comforting me 333 00:28:44,032 --> 00:28:53,612 Place in the healing 334 00:28:53,612 --> 00:28:59,332 Nowhere to be found 335 00:28:59,332 --> 00:29:06,712 So I, I, I 336 00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:11,952 Comes from 10 minutes 337 00:29:11,952 --> 00:29:20,552 Place in the building 338 00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:26,432 Nowhere to be found 339 00:29:26,432 --> 00:29:33,852 So what I hope 340 00:29:33,852 --> 00:29:39,052 Comes from the dead 341 00:29:39,052 --> 00:29:47,692 Place in the beauty 342 00:29:47,692 --> 00:29:53,312 Nowhere to be found 343 00:30:03,852 --> 00:30:23,192 That was Favorite Child by The Velviks. 344 00:30:23,192 --> 00:30:26,572 And wow, what a song. 345 00:30:26,592 --> 00:30:27,852 I haven't heard this one before. 346 00:30:28,072 --> 00:30:32,152 I got really strong Division Bell vibes 347 00:30:32,152 --> 00:30:36,472 that rospy David Gilmour type vocals, especially the first half, the way it builds up. 348 00:30:37,152 --> 00:30:38,832 What an amazing song. 349 00:30:40,392 --> 00:30:47,892 Yeah, we, you know, this is one of those songs where when we were kind of putting together 350 00:30:47,892 --> 00:30:54,892 the album, we were kind of back and forth on it, not because of the track itself, because 351 00:30:54,892 --> 00:31:01,572 it was an incredible track, but because we kind of ran into this quandary of what do 352 00:31:01,572 --> 00:31:10,352 we do here? Do we, do we, uh, put this in this really long song that's like an absolute, you know, 353 00:31:10,412 --> 00:31:15,652 it's just, it kind of draws and you need to pay attention and you need to sort of, you know, 354 00:31:15,712 --> 00:31:20,592 be enveloped in the song to really appreciate it. Um, so it takes effort on the listener's part, 355 00:31:20,592 --> 00:31:28,452 right? Um, do we put that in or do we swap it for just a happy go lucky sort of easy listening, 356 00:31:28,452 --> 00:31:34,372 crazy rock, just, you know, get wild, but it's really short, easy tune. Right. And we thought 357 00:31:34,372 --> 00:31:39,332 to ourselves, you know, what are we trying to do here? Right. Are we trying to sell albums 358 00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:43,652 for the sake of selling albums? Or are we trying to create music? We're trying to create art. 359 00:31:43,652 --> 00:31:49,652 And so that then quickly solidified our decision, like this has to go in. 360 00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:55,792 Because it's funny, another synchronicity, because as we were sort of making this decision, 361 00:31:55,792 --> 00:32:06,252 And one of the things that I, you know, I think soon after the, you know, make songs longer, Heather Larson, that's her username on there. 362 00:32:06,252 --> 00:32:11,632 And so I kept seeing her pop up and I'm like, oh, shit, like, yeah, let's do that. 363 00:32:11,832 --> 00:32:15,652 Let's make songs longer. Let's put real music in there, you know. 364 00:32:16,592 --> 00:32:20,252 And so, so, yeah, so that we ended up sticking with this track. 365 00:32:20,632 --> 00:32:25,452 And, you know, I love it because it's just it's such a stadium song. 366 00:32:25,792 --> 00:32:27,612 I get Pink Floyd vibes. 367 00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:32,492 I see Pompeii, their concert in Pompeii. 368 00:32:33,212 --> 00:32:36,012 That's what's in my mind when this song's kind of going on. 369 00:32:36,812 --> 00:32:37,112 Oh, yeah. 370 00:32:37,252 --> 00:32:38,132 That's what I said. 371 00:32:38,312 --> 00:32:42,612 The Division Bell, the David Gilmour rospy vocals 372 00:32:43,212 --> 00:32:47,852 and that hypnotic pacing, absolutely Pink Floyd, 373 00:32:49,212 --> 00:32:51,032 in the David Gilmour era especially. 374 00:32:51,692 --> 00:32:52,812 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 375 00:32:52,812 --> 00:32:58,632 you know and and and it's it's that you know that's one of their major uh influences because 376 00:32:58,632 --> 00:33:06,952 um so the velvics they were started by uh vic uh vic he's uh vic of the velvics he's um 377 00:33:06,952 --> 00:33:15,052 he's like in his like mid to late 40s you know so he grew up around a lot of that that type of 378 00:33:15,052 --> 00:33:23,192 you know, classic rock. Um, and so the influences are heavily there. Um, but, um, yeah, meeting him 379 00:33:23,192 --> 00:33:28,052 actually. And it's funny because actually the Velviks are sort of pivotal for me, uh, in my 380 00:33:28,052 --> 00:33:33,952 music career, uh, because Vic actually sort of kicked it all off for me, uh, from a professional 381 00:33:33,952 --> 00:33:38,192 perspective. Um, if you, if you can indulge me, I can go into a little bit of a story here. 382 00:33:38,712 --> 00:33:42,992 Yeah. But actually, can I ask you one thing before you do that? I don't want to hear the story. 383 00:33:42,992 --> 00:33:47,352 is the rest of their music like this as well because i will be checking them out if that's 384 00:33:47,352 --> 00:33:57,672 the case yeah so their their tracks are stadium built right so this is a big big band um they 385 00:33:57,672 --> 00:34:04,852 with a big sound right um they they they're they're most actually this is so they kind of 386 00:34:04,852 --> 00:34:09,612 have two sides and this is kind of the thing that we did with the album uh we we built it for vinyl 387 00:34:09,612 --> 00:34:17,432 Right. So we created this knowing that we were going to put it on vinyl because we wanted to kind of bring back a lot of the old school and the physical media. 388 00:34:17,572 --> 00:34:21,472 Right. That was all part of that whole physical community thing that we had going. 389 00:34:22,432 --> 00:34:32,032 And so the first half, the first side, side A, is all just straight up upbeat, raunchy, sex filled, sex, drugs, rock and roll. 390 00:34:32,032 --> 00:34:40,712 like you know it's it's feel good you know slam a shot you know do a line and and fucking rock out 391 00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:50,852 that's side a side b is sort of like parties over um end of the night or next day you're reflecting 392 00:34:50,852 --> 00:34:55,352 you know you're kind of in a you know sunday brunch time you're finally starting to wake up 393 00:34:55,352 --> 00:35:00,132 a little bit and you're kind of reflecting on your life uh you're getting a little bit more 394 00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:04,992 philosophical it's a lot softer it's slower it's a lot more of this sort of thing right it's a lot 395 00:35:04,992 --> 00:35:11,532 um so you kind of get so it's it's it's you get you have kind of the foo fighters uh you know 396 00:35:11,532 --> 00:35:18,292 nirvana well maybe not nirvana but more a lot more foo fighters on the first part first uh side a and 397 00:35:18,292 --> 00:35:23,292 then it's like floyd on side b so it's a really cool sort of duality um and i think it sort of 398 00:35:23,292 --> 00:35:29,952 wraps up the the the vinyl so well right because the whole album and the album was made to listen 399 00:35:29,952 --> 00:35:37,772 to in order from front to back um and so this track is actually the ninth track um on the album 400 00:35:37,772 --> 00:35:45,632 i love that description of of the side a and side b and you know probably one of the greatest 401 00:35:45,632 --> 00:35:50,212 hangover songs you can i mean it was i actually think it's the greatest song ever written 402 00:35:50,212 --> 00:35:55,932 rock song ever written uh or modern song ever written is uh shine on your crazy diamond 403 00:35:55,932 --> 00:36:03,832 by Pink Floyd. And just listening to it when you're hungover on Sunday, it hits different, man. 404 00:36:04,412 --> 00:36:07,532 But you were going to tell me a story about the Velvics. Go ahead. 405 00:36:07,532 --> 00:36:16,492 Yeah, yeah, sure. So the Velvics, right? I guess so before that, you know, I live in white suburbia. 406 00:36:17,432 --> 00:36:24,552 And I'm Asian, if anyone hasn't met me and doesn't know that. But so I'm kind of out of place, 407 00:36:24,552 --> 00:36:30,312 Right. And I'm not the typical sort of super nerd looking Asian. 408 00:36:30,952 --> 00:36:32,512 So I definitely stand out. 409 00:36:33,052 --> 00:36:42,812 And so when my son was in preschool, you know, I was doing I was a state I was kind of work from home. 410 00:36:42,812 --> 00:36:45,372 So I was doing all this, all the mom stuff. Right. 411 00:36:46,012 --> 00:36:52,852 So schlepping to practices and to activities and daycare, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. 412 00:36:52,852 --> 00:36:58,412 and so one day I'm in I'm here I'm you know picking up uh from the daycare with all the 413 00:36:58,412 --> 00:37:03,532 soccer moms and the yoga pants and everything like that right they're all blonde um and you 414 00:37:03,532 --> 00:37:08,112 know the kids are outside hanging out playing and then up rocks this dude right he's got 415 00:37:08,112 --> 00:37:14,872 ripped tight leather black jeans on tight leather tight shirt you know leather cuffs he's got long 416 00:37:14,872 --> 00:37:19,212 ass hair and he's kind of got the strut going he's got the big old combat boots he walks into 417 00:37:19,212 --> 00:37:24,112 this daycare, picks up the kids and then walks out. Like, who the hell was that? Right? Like, 418 00:37:24,152 --> 00:37:30,132 he's out of place too. A few days later, I go into Taekwondo practice and, you know, 419 00:37:30,252 --> 00:37:33,932 and my kids are doing their thing and I'm sitting there watching them. And who's sitting there on 420 00:37:33,932 --> 00:37:37,512 the table? It's the same guy. I'm like, all right, I got to talk to this guy. I need to like, find 421 00:37:37,512 --> 00:37:43,372 out what's his deal. And it turns out, you know, he's Vic from the Velvics and, you know, he's a 422 00:37:43,372 --> 00:37:48,232 front man for a rock band coming out of New York. They somehow ended up in the middle of nowhere, 423 00:37:48,232 --> 00:37:54,692 you know, suburbia, uh, for whatever reason. And we ended up being friends and we kind of talked 424 00:37:54,692 --> 00:37:58,932 for a little while and, you know, you know, cause I love music and, and, you know, he's a musician 425 00:37:58,932 --> 00:38:05,852 and we just kind of hit it off and we were kind of odd ducks, right. In this, this town. Um, and so 426 00:38:05,852 --> 00:38:11,792 I, I'm an entrepreneur. I do a whole lot of things. I love, you know, I I'm a Jack of all 427 00:38:11,792 --> 00:38:17,372 trades sort of master of none sort of situation. Um, and so one day he said, Hey, look, I've got 428 00:38:17,372 --> 00:38:23,832 this agent. He's out in LA. He's a rock star from back in the day. He's got all of this music stuff 429 00:38:23,832 --> 00:38:27,772 down, but he needs someone to help him with this business. He wants to make a label, you know, 430 00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:33,412 that da da da da. And so I said, all right, I'm one of those people who when something comes my 431 00:38:33,412 --> 00:38:42,372 way, I don't like to say no, only because I love discovery. I love, you know, kind of 432 00:38:42,372 --> 00:38:47,512 finding something new and just like flying by the seat of my pants and seeing what happens, 433 00:38:47,512 --> 00:38:52,252 because I think life comes at you that way. Right. So if you sort of sit there and you're like, 434 00:38:52,252 --> 00:38:56,292 oh, yeah, but I don't know about getting into the music business. I don't know about this. I don't 435 00:38:56,292 --> 00:38:59,992 know if I can do it. I don't know if I know the right people. I don't know if I know enough about 436 00:38:59,992 --> 00:39:05,552 music. Right. Or all that sort of stuff. But sometimes when you just sort of say, fuck it, 437 00:39:05,572 --> 00:39:10,252 let's go. Beautiful things can happen. And so this this is one of them. 438 00:39:12,372 --> 00:39:21,872 amazing yeah amazing yeah yeah and and and one of the one of the you know and just just from a 439 00:39:21,872 --> 00:39:25,712 playlist perspective we don't have to jump to it just now but you know the next song that i kind of 440 00:39:25,712 --> 00:39:31,472 have queued up for us is is from a band that's not one of ours um or a singer that's not one of 441 00:39:31,472 --> 00:39:39,112 ours uh abel james but i wanted to add him to my playlist because uh the song is called live while 442 00:39:39,112 --> 00:39:46,792 I'm Alive and it sort of like reflects my whole philosophy on life and on just sort of like 443 00:39:46,792 --> 00:39:52,532 just live like everyone's going to tell you no everyone's going to tell you that's stupid or 444 00:39:52,532 --> 00:39:57,252 you're crazy but you know sometimes you just got to do what your heart tells you. 445 00:39:58,872 --> 00:40:01,492 I think we found the perfect segue for that song then. 446 00:40:03,152 --> 00:40:08,212 This is Live While I'm Alive by Abel James. 447 00:40:09,112 --> 00:40:39,092 guitar solo 448 00:40:39,112 --> 00:40:41,152 Cause I ain't worth a dime 449 00:40:41,152 --> 00:40:43,112 They said, no you won't 450 00:40:43,112 --> 00:40:45,972 No you won't 451 00:40:45,972 --> 00:40:48,452 Boy, you must have lost your mind 452 00:40:48,452 --> 00:40:55,872 They said, I just found a ride for me 453 00:40:55,872 --> 00:40:58,372 An 85 Mercedes Benz 454 00:40:58,372 --> 00:41:01,192 Couples cruise loose, needs some TLC 455 00:41:01,192 --> 00:41:03,652 But she found herself a friend 456 00:41:03,652 --> 00:41:06,052 They said, no you don't 457 00:41:06,052 --> 00:41:08,552 No you don't 458 00:41:08,552 --> 00:41:11,032 Son, you must have lost your mind. 459 00:41:11,892 --> 00:41:13,632 You must have lost your mind. 460 00:41:14,912 --> 00:41:17,872 Said, I'm gonna live while I'm alive. 461 00:41:18,872 --> 00:41:22,292 Ain't nobody ever gonna change my mind. 462 00:41:23,712 --> 00:41:24,712 No, no. 463 00:41:26,052 --> 00:41:29,132 So I said bye-bye, baby. 464 00:41:29,732 --> 00:41:30,492 Bye-bye. 465 00:41:30,592 --> 00:41:32,332 Bye-bye, baby. 466 00:41:32,332 --> 00:41:33,472 I'm gone. 467 00:41:34,832 --> 00:41:44,948 Yeah I gone I said bye bye baby You know I got my walking shoes on 468 00:41:44,948 --> 00:41:47,428 Yes, I do 469 00:41:47,428 --> 00:41:52,348 I don't want this job no more 470 00:41:52,348 --> 00:41:54,548 I'm gonna play guitar all day 471 00:41:54,548 --> 00:41:58,168 Make my rent in smoky bars 472 00:41:58,168 --> 00:42:00,128 Rockin' my blues away 473 00:42:00,128 --> 00:42:01,948 They said no, you don't 474 00:42:01,948 --> 00:42:04,928 No, you don't 475 00:42:04,928 --> 00:42:19,028 Kid, you must have lost your mind. You must have lost your mind. I said I'm gonna live while I'm alive. Ain't nobody ever gonna change my mind. 476 00:42:19,028 --> 00:42:25,688 Now I'm gonna drive across the country 477 00:42:25,688 --> 00:42:28,528 Have myself a time 478 00:42:28,528 --> 00:42:31,728 Gonna grab my girl and my guitar 479 00:42:31,728 --> 00:42:34,048 Drop that old band into the night 480 00:42:34,048 --> 00:42:35,688 They said no you won't 481 00:42:35,688 --> 00:42:39,108 No, no, no, no you won't 482 00:42:39,108 --> 00:42:41,868 Man, you must have lost your mind 483 00:42:41,868 --> 00:42:44,848 You must have lost your mind 484 00:42:44,848 --> 00:42:48,408 They said I'm gonna live while I'm alive 485 00:42:48,408 --> 00:42:52,948 Ain't nobody ever gonna change my mind 486 00:42:52,948 --> 00:42:55,288 No, they won't 487 00:42:55,288 --> 00:42:59,588 So I said bye-bye, baby 488 00:42:59,588 --> 00:43:02,708 Bye-bye, baby 489 00:43:02,708 --> 00:43:06,748 I'm gone, yeah, I'm gone 490 00:43:06,748 --> 00:43:10,888 I said bye-bye, baby 491 00:43:10,888 --> 00:43:15,428 You know I got my walking shoes on 492 00:43:15,428 --> 00:43:17,768 Yes, I do 493 00:43:17,768 --> 00:43:22,128 Now I'm gonna live while I'm alive 494 00:43:22,128 --> 00:43:25,228 Ain't nobody ever 495 00:43:35,388 --> 00:43:37,048 Ain't nobody ever 496 00:43:37,048 --> 00:43:41,328 ain't nobody ever 497 00:43:42,868 --> 00:43:43,728 ain't nobody ever 498 00:43:43,728 --> 00:43:50,568 Gonna change my mind 499 00:43:50,568 --> 00:44:02,728 Never gonna change my mind 500 00:44:02,728 --> 00:44:05,208 It's all out of the line 501 00:44:05,208 --> 00:44:10,128 It's all out of the line 502 00:44:10,988 --> 00:44:14,128 You're never gonna change my mind 503 00:44:14,128 --> 00:44:16,288 You're one, one, two, eight 504 00:44:16,288 --> 00:44:19,368 You're gonna change my mind 505 00:44:19,368 --> 00:44:27,128 You're never gonna change my mind 506 00:44:27,768 --> 00:44:30,508 You're never gonna change my mind 507 00:44:30,508 --> 00:44:35,688 You're gonna change my mind 508 00:44:36,428 --> 00:44:39,808 You're never gonna change my mind 509 00:44:39,808 --> 00:45:09,788 Never gonna change my mind 510 00:45:09,808 --> 00:45:12,348 My man 511 00:45:39,808 --> 00:45:45,608 song uh makes you yeah i was i was bouncing in my chair as i was listening to that i like oh yeah 512 00:45:45,608 --> 00:45:53,168 i i have a hard time not dancing uh when i hear songs like that you know because it i was up in 513 00:45:53,168 --> 00:45:58,908 my room moving around and hopping because it's just you know it's one of those feel-good tracks 514 00:45:58,908 --> 00:46:04,768 um that that really kind of gets you gets you ready for whatever's coming your way you know 515 00:46:04,768 --> 00:46:15,788 But the message there is what, you know, I kind of live by a lot of the times because I find myself, you know, I'm very creative. 516 00:46:16,188 --> 00:46:20,828 I have a lot of crazy ideas and a lot of things in my head all the time. 517 00:46:22,008 --> 00:46:30,788 And so when I get these ideas, you know, and I'm also one of those people who are like, fuck it, I could do this. 518 00:46:30,788 --> 00:46:33,488 You know, like I'm kind of fearless in that way. 519 00:46:33,488 --> 00:46:39,028 Um, and so everybody else around me, those oftentimes, ah, you're crazy. 520 00:46:39,108 --> 00:46:39,668 Why would you do that? 521 00:46:39,728 --> 00:46:40,588 No, don't do that. 522 00:46:40,628 --> 00:46:42,508 You know, like this whole V4V music thing. 523 00:46:42,828 --> 00:46:44,968 You're going to start a record label now. 524 00:46:45,288 --> 00:46:45,648 Really? 525 00:46:45,828 --> 00:46:46,148 No. 526 00:46:46,308 --> 00:46:46,808 Oh my God. 527 00:46:46,808 --> 00:46:47,248 You're an idiot. 528 00:46:47,448 --> 00:46:47,728 You know? 529 00:46:47,928 --> 00:46:49,448 Oh, and then you're going to go into Bitcoin. 530 00:46:49,648 --> 00:46:50,888 Oh, you're stupid. 531 00:46:51,288 --> 00:46:52,828 Oh, wait, you're going to do Bitcoin music. 532 00:46:53,268 --> 00:46:53,548 Yeah. 533 00:46:53,648 --> 00:46:54,008 Okay. 534 00:46:54,508 --> 00:46:55,708 Oh, and then you're going to do Noster. 535 00:46:56,128 --> 00:46:56,328 Yeah. 536 00:46:56,668 --> 00:46:57,288 Come on. 537 00:46:57,408 --> 00:46:57,768 Right. 538 00:46:58,808 --> 00:47:02,588 So, so everybody all along the way keeps telling me I'm crazy. 539 00:47:02,588 --> 00:47:03,208 I'm an idiot. 540 00:47:03,488 --> 00:47:09,068 you know, and you're just, you know, glutton for punishment. Maybe that's true. But you know what? 541 00:47:10,068 --> 00:47:16,328 I'm happy. I love doing this. And I think it's making other people happy. And it's really 542 00:47:16,328 --> 00:47:24,208 improving people's lives. So, you know, it's worth it. Do you think Bitcoiners live while they're 543 00:47:24,208 --> 00:47:29,488 alive? Or are they living for some distant future when there will be hyper Bitcoinization? 544 00:47:29,488 --> 00:47:37,428 and in the present they're just trying to stock sats and huddle yeah you know that's it's a really 545 00:47:37,428 --> 00:47:44,108 interesting question because i think a lot of bitcoiners tend to go to the extreme um and and 546 00:47:44,108 --> 00:47:49,008 that's fine we need people like that right like i said we need the people that are hey you're crazy 547 00:47:49,008 --> 00:47:55,788 right um those are the people that are leading the way um so yeah i do think most bitcoiners 548 00:47:55,788 --> 00:48:01,168 aren't living for today, they're living for tomorrow, which is completely opposite from the 549 00:48:01,168 --> 00:48:07,468 fiat sort of mindset. And so that's great to have that sort of phase shift, because I think we need 550 00:48:07,468 --> 00:48:11,668 more balance in this world, more people who are thinking about tomorrow, not for today. 551 00:48:13,008 --> 00:48:18,688 But I would encourage a lot of Bitcoiners out there, tomorrow doesn't come if you can't get 552 00:48:18,688 --> 00:48:24,968 past today. So I would encourage them to like, you know, live for today, just a little bit, 553 00:48:24,968 --> 00:48:39,248 Right. Spend a little bit of your sats with other Bitcoiners, you know, tip the musicians that you hear, because all of this, you know, hyper Bitcoinization doesn't happen if all you do is hodl. 554 00:48:39,768 --> 00:48:44,228 If you're the only one in the world stacking all the sats, who cares? Right. 555 00:48:44,848 --> 00:48:49,708 The only way that money becomes money is if it's used as money. 556 00:48:50,148 --> 00:48:52,088 So we need to use some of our Bitcoin. 557 00:48:52,288 --> 00:48:57,128 We need to, you know, spread it out and create this economy, create this ecosystem that we 558 00:48:57,128 --> 00:48:57,428 want. 559 00:48:57,668 --> 00:49:01,368 And so, you know, we talk a lot about hyper Bitcoinization. 560 00:49:01,528 --> 00:49:02,368 Well, what creates that? 561 00:49:02,448 --> 00:49:04,108 Well, that's like a circular economy, right? 562 00:49:04,108 --> 00:49:05,628 We have to cut out the fiat world. 563 00:49:05,828 --> 00:49:06,588 We don't need them. 564 00:49:06,668 --> 00:49:07,368 We don't want them. 565 00:49:07,668 --> 00:49:09,788 So we need to be self-sufficient amongst ourselves. 566 00:49:10,088 --> 00:49:14,948 So if we can create that self-sufficiency in a circular economy, well, you start drilling 567 00:49:14,948 --> 00:49:18,088 down even further and you say, OK, what makes an economy, right? 568 00:49:18,108 --> 00:49:19,128 What parts of it are there? 569 00:49:19,128 --> 00:49:22,328 I mean, there's obvious stuff like food, shipping and all that. 570 00:49:22,528 --> 00:49:25,208 But there's also, you know, all the other stuff, too. 571 00:49:25,268 --> 00:49:27,708 There's music and everything else that goes with life, right? 572 00:49:27,728 --> 00:49:28,868 There's entertainment and all that. 573 00:49:29,548 --> 00:49:40,148 And so, you know, and it's tough because we're living in this world right now where everything's driven to the price of free in the music world. 574 00:49:40,548 --> 00:49:45,928 And so artists are struggling, but, you know, they can't create if they're not being supported. 575 00:49:45,928 --> 00:49:51,988 um and then obviously if you you know the the rest of the world the fiat world thinks they're 576 00:49:51,988 --> 00:49:56,008 supporting them by streaming their music on spotify and i mean yeah they kind of are but 577 00:49:56,008 --> 00:50:04,028 they're also feeding the virus right um and so v4v music is sort of like penicillin i think you 578 00:50:04,028 --> 00:50:12,708 know it's sort of the this is the cure as uh ivy luthie uh had said on on your show last week um 579 00:50:12,708 --> 00:50:16,248 You know, I think this is the music is the cure for your soul. 580 00:50:17,548 --> 00:50:22,548 And so the reason why I wanted to bring Abel James onto this show, 581 00:50:23,428 --> 00:50:26,008 a song onto this show is because actually, 582 00:50:26,128 --> 00:50:27,668 and it's a little bit selfish on my part, 583 00:50:28,068 --> 00:50:34,708 but he's actually going to be performing live on South by Worldwide on Saturday. 584 00:50:34,708 --> 00:50:43,488 he's uh playing on saturday at uh from eight to ten on a super huge two-hour set he's also going 585 00:50:43,488 --> 00:50:51,508 to be playing alongside of sob and the dangs which is another uh v4v uh band that we have on here um 586 00:50:51,508 --> 00:50:58,968 and so the two of them are going to be doing saturday uh from eight to ten live set streaming 587 00:50:58,968 --> 00:51:04,428 from south by worldwide um and and and for those of you who don't know what south by worldwide is 588 00:51:04,428 --> 00:51:10,948 Um, it's this crazy project that, uh, we sort of took on, uh, on the 12th hour, uh, to put 589 00:51:10,948 --> 00:51:15,988 together a four day music festival, um, in the midst of South by Southwest. 590 00:51:16,468 --> 00:51:18,368 Um, so we're a side gig on the side. 591 00:51:18,428 --> 00:51:22,328 We have a secret warehouse location, uh, where we will be streaming from. 592 00:51:22,328 --> 00:51:29,228 Um, this whole show was put together by community members of Noster and Bitcoiners, no one else, 593 00:51:29,388 --> 00:51:30,748 no one from the legacy world. 594 00:51:30,868 --> 00:51:32,868 And I'm talking to everybody from top to bottom. 595 00:51:32,868 --> 00:51:47,328 The venue is controlled by Bitcoiners. The MCs, DeLorean and Wolf of Kansas City, two of them are podcasters in this V4V space and the DMU space. 596 00:51:48,088 --> 00:51:54,868 You know, they have bull after bull as well as Homegrown Hits. They're two major shows. Make sure you catch those. 597 00:51:54,868 --> 00:51:59,068 You know, we're going to have a special Homegrown Hits live on location. 598 00:51:59,828 --> 00:52:01,288 So they'll be our emcees. 599 00:52:01,608 --> 00:52:04,868 All the artists, every single one of them are V4V musicians. 600 00:52:05,328 --> 00:52:12,488 They're musicians that are either going to be live streamed or have sent in pre-recorded sets or are also going to be playing live on stage. 601 00:52:13,928 --> 00:52:19,268 And so it's going to be this crazy, fun, musical extravaganza. 602 00:52:19,268 --> 00:52:33,148 We're calling it a variety show, just trying to get anybody who wants to sort of, you know, from this V4V space that wants to get their sound out there, that wants to, you know, to be heard. 603 00:52:33,508 --> 00:52:37,028 We want to be give you a voice and we want to give you a place to do that. 604 00:52:37,148 --> 00:52:42,928 And then we're going to be. And the cool thing is, you know, as all V4V productions are, it's Bitcoin enabled, lightning enabled. 605 00:52:42,928 --> 00:52:45,188 So you'll be able to tip your artists as you go. 606 00:52:45,588 --> 00:52:48,608 The splits change as the music changes, the splits changes. 607 00:52:48,788 --> 00:52:53,908 Whoever's on screen is going to be, you know, getting those stats that you tip. 608 00:52:54,748 --> 00:53:01,248 And and it'll be played throughout, you know, the Austin area. 609 00:53:01,608 --> 00:53:04,288 We've got a couple of different screens where it's going to be on. 610 00:53:04,348 --> 00:53:05,288 So people will see it. 611 00:53:06,508 --> 00:53:08,108 You know, normies will see it. 612 00:53:08,148 --> 00:53:09,188 And that's that's kind of the key here. 613 00:53:09,188 --> 00:53:10,768 And we're trying to do two different things. Right. 614 00:53:10,768 --> 00:53:20,928 So for the normie side of things, the rest of the world, we want to show them like, hey, this world exists and there's incredible music and the technology is amazing. 615 00:53:21,668 --> 00:53:26,828 So you just kind of have to, if this even interests you, come jump in and see what it's all about. 616 00:53:27,588 --> 00:53:30,408 So we have it very friendly for that audience. 617 00:53:30,768 --> 00:53:34,088 But we also have it for the Noster community, right? 618 00:53:34,108 --> 00:53:38,208 For the Bitcoin community, for the V4V community, because these are our people. 619 00:53:38,208 --> 00:53:45,748 you know it's it's coming from the inside and we're just building this out this is us against 620 00:53:45,748 --> 00:53:51,148 the world sort of thing it's all it's a lot of my favorite music I'll be honest picked a lot of 621 00:53:51,148 --> 00:53:56,208 bands that I liked and then but if anybody also and just kind of going out to any of the bands 622 00:53:56,208 --> 00:54:01,848 that are out there right now you know if you want to send in a pre-recorded set there's still time 623 00:54:01,848 --> 00:54:07,868 to get in before because because of our amazing technology you know we can just we can drop you 624 00:54:07,868 --> 00:54:15,228 in pretty easily and make it happen. So, you know, any artists that are out there, but yeah, 625 00:54:15,288 --> 00:54:20,508 yeah. Get ahold of me, DM us, hash power music. But I also wanted to shout out just a few people 626 00:54:20,508 --> 00:54:26,928 that made this happen, you know, that really were integral because this was a 12 hour sort of 627 00:54:26,928 --> 00:54:35,088 situation, you know, trying to put on 24 hours of full music, right. It's four days worth of music. 628 00:54:35,088 --> 00:54:41,508 it's quite a bit of an undertaking. And so I couldn't have done it without people like 629 00:54:41,508 --> 00:54:47,828 Eric PP, who's working on a lot of the boost boards and the leaderboards type stuff. 630 00:54:48,328 --> 00:54:53,828 Booberry, who's been integral. He was the guy who did a lot of those satellite skirmishes and 631 00:54:53,828 --> 00:55:00,488 everything like that, the satellite shows. So he's got a lot of the sort of very fun back end 632 00:55:00,488 --> 00:55:02,968 plumbing sort of situations. 633 00:55:03,388 --> 00:55:07,308 Chad F., who I think a lot of you guys know, he's just been such a big supporter. 634 00:55:07,968 --> 00:55:11,648 He's been so helpful on the technology side of things and just making sure things work. 635 00:55:13,228 --> 00:55:17,868 And then, of course, I have to shout out Sir Spencer, Wolf, Kansas City. 636 00:55:18,368 --> 00:55:20,188 He's going to be one of our emcees. 637 00:55:20,188 --> 00:55:24,408 And he's also been integral in, you know, getting the ground crew together, setting everything 638 00:55:24,408 --> 00:55:27,468 up, you know, making sure our streams are working. 639 00:55:27,788 --> 00:55:28,668 And same with DeLorean. 640 00:55:28,668 --> 00:55:33,228 You know, she's making sure our feet is up, making sure that our 641 00:55:33,264 --> 00:55:37,424 can get boosted, ours can get zapped, you know, like all the lightning addresses and 642 00:55:37,424 --> 00:55:38,944 all that sort of back end stuff. 643 00:55:39,644 --> 00:55:44,484 And then, you know, and I want to also shout out Shadrach for having the venue available 644 00:55:44,484 --> 00:55:47,264 for us, creating this amazing space. 645 00:55:47,524 --> 00:55:54,904 You guys will love it if you tune in and you can tune in at sxworldwide.xyz. 646 00:55:55,564 --> 00:55:57,404 That's where we'll be streaming it right now. 647 00:55:57,544 --> 00:56:03,184 The page is sort of info page, but then we'll swap it over to a watch page right before. 648 00:56:03,264 --> 00:56:09,404 and uh but you can watch it there but the the venue is incredible it's this old warehouse um 649 00:56:09,404 --> 00:56:16,784 that uh kind of got taken down and then converted into this super bohemian sort of gypsy vibe with 650 00:56:16,784 --> 00:56:23,344 tapestries everywhere and like soft uh furniture all over the place um so it should be a really 651 00:56:23,344 --> 00:56:27,944 really cool vibe so we're trying to make it like uh sort of a gypsy circus variety show theme 652 00:56:27,944 --> 00:56:34,024 sort of thing. So it'll be a lot of fun. So I hope you guys show up and zap and boost and 653 00:56:34,024 --> 00:56:38,244 there's comments enabled. There's a super chat. So, you know, make your voice heard. 654 00:56:38,464 --> 00:56:43,544 This is going out to the world. Love it. Sounds like a fantastic event. And I was actually going 655 00:56:43,544 --> 00:56:49,384 to ask you if this is you're doing this along with the Web5 folks, because on Friday, I'm going 656 00:56:49,384 --> 00:56:57,424 to be joining. You mentioned Shadrach. I'm going to be joining a live stream to talk about not about 657 00:56:57,424 --> 00:57:02,964 the podcast, but my TV show, Finding Home, some of the work I'm doing with the Indie Hub folks, 658 00:57:03,084 --> 00:57:06,084 Zach Mahoney and others. So I think this is all part of the same thing. 659 00:57:06,304 --> 00:57:10,604 Yep. Yeah. You're on the schedule. You're on the schedule and we're excited to have you. 660 00:57:11,264 --> 00:57:15,704 That's part of the whole variety show of it, right? So we're going to have some panels and 661 00:57:15,704 --> 00:57:21,044 interviews and obviously Avi's going to be there. I'm very excited to hear what you guys are going 662 00:57:21,044 --> 00:57:26,204 to have to say about, you know, what you're doing with Indie Hub because, you know, say around Indie 663 00:57:26,204 --> 00:57:30,624 because like, uh, and, and as, as, you know, and everything that you're doing, because it's, 664 00:57:30,704 --> 00:57:35,164 it's, it's all about the entertainment side of it. Right. And so all these technology that we're 665 00:57:35,164 --> 00:57:39,924 kind of building together, it's all going to mesh together and, and become the, build out our 666 00:57:39,924 --> 00:57:45,344 ecosystem, right. This whole sort of circular music economy that we've got going on, not just 667 00:57:45,344 --> 00:57:50,764 music, but circular entertainment economy. Yeah. Yeah. It's a whole culture, right. It's kind of 668 00:57:50,764 --> 00:57:55,604 what we've been talking about. Um, and I just kind of want everything, anything that sort of pushes 669 00:57:55,604 --> 00:57:59,864 this is forward you know i'm all about and supporting because it's it's that i think it's 670 00:57:59,864 --> 00:58:05,904 the way right that's the way forward love it love it all right so why don't we play your next song 671 00:58:05,904 --> 00:58:13,524 uh it's do you want to talk a little bit about that i believe it's spin yeah by the trusted 672 00:58:13,524 --> 00:58:20,404 this next track is spin uh by the trusted we just released uh the real the original version 673 00:58:20,404 --> 00:58:24,624 maybe like three-ish weeks ago, something like that. 674 00:58:25,524 --> 00:58:28,164 The Trusted is actually a very interesting story. 675 00:58:28,324 --> 00:58:30,664 And just real quick, they're, I think, 676 00:58:30,984 --> 00:58:33,684 the first band ever to be discovered and signed 677 00:58:33,684 --> 00:58:37,524 from the V4V world, from Valueverse. 678 00:58:38,784 --> 00:58:41,524 So they were one of the bands that I, you know, 679 00:58:41,524 --> 00:58:44,804 because after we uploaded the Velvix and the Retrograde, 680 00:58:45,344 --> 00:58:48,004 you know, we started getting more ingrained in the community. 681 00:58:48,164 --> 00:58:49,684 And I was listening to a lot of different tracks. 682 00:58:49,684 --> 00:58:51,384 Abel James was one of the ones that I heard. 683 00:58:52,204 --> 00:58:54,044 And The Trusted was one of them as well. 684 00:58:54,624 --> 00:58:58,624 And so when we heard them, I thought, man, these guys kind of get it. 685 00:58:59,064 --> 00:59:01,844 Now, you know, and they've got a great sound. 686 00:59:02,464 --> 00:59:04,024 Brit Rock is kind of coming up. 687 00:59:04,424 --> 00:59:06,384 And so, yeah, we signed them to management. 688 00:59:06,944 --> 00:59:11,764 And, you know, we've been working with them on their new EP and everything. 689 00:59:11,904 --> 00:59:17,824 So like I said, this is the second single off of their upcoming EP, Spin. 690 00:59:17,984 --> 00:59:19,084 However, this is a little bit different. 691 00:59:19,084 --> 00:59:31,584 This one is their live version, that acoustic live version that they played on the BBC introducing radio show somewhat recently. 692 00:59:31,884 --> 00:59:34,444 So see what you think about this one. 693 00:59:35,584 --> 00:59:39,084 Spin is normally kind of a festival song for bigger, larger crowds. 694 00:59:39,404 --> 00:59:41,304 So it'd be kind of cool to bring it down acoustically. 695 00:59:43,084 --> 00:59:45,304 This is Spin by The Trusted. 696 00:59:49,084 --> 01:00:19,064 guitar solo 697 01:00:19,084 --> 01:00:24,544 I found it sliding down the walls, throw me in the opera. 698 01:00:25,144 --> 01:00:29,604 This paper cut glass is cutting through the system. 699 01:00:30,504 --> 01:00:32,104 Nothing's built to last. 700 01:00:32,664 --> 01:00:37,184 My vertigo head is stuffed with regret. 701 01:00:37,904 --> 01:00:41,284 And I'm arguing with angels. 702 01:00:41,284 --> 01:00:47,384 I hate that we exist, but sometimes I like it. 703 01:00:47,384 --> 01:00:49,884 Sometimes I like it 704 01:00:49,884 --> 01:00:52,484 Cause I wanna be your real thing 705 01:00:52,484 --> 01:00:54,544 I wanna make you spin 706 01:00:54,544 --> 01:00:57,524 I wanna be your real thing 707 01:00:57,524 --> 01:00:59,604 My carousel of pins 708 01:00:59,604 --> 01:01:02,404 I wanna be your real thing 709 01:01:02,404 --> 01:01:04,804 I wanna be your real thing 710 01:01:04,804 --> 01:01:06,964 I wanna make you spin 711 01:01:06,964 --> 01:01:09,804 I wanna be your real thing 712 01:01:09,804 --> 01:01:11,304 Real thing 713 01:01:11,304 --> 01:01:14,624 Our autocratic love 714 01:01:14,624 --> 01:01:16,944 Has always been corrupt 715 01:01:16,944 --> 01:01:19,644 I have my shadows 716 01:01:19,644 --> 01:01:21,664 Don't interrupt 717 01:01:21,664 --> 01:01:24,704 This cheerleader on me 718 01:01:24,704 --> 01:01:26,764 Is here to destroy 719 01:01:26,764 --> 01:01:29,224 Everything you want 720 01:01:29,224 --> 01:01:31,784 Everything you are 721 01:01:31,784 --> 01:01:34,724 Cause I wanna be your real thing 722 01:01:34,724 --> 01:01:36,784 I wanna make you spin 723 01:01:36,784 --> 01:01:39,604 I wanna be your real thing 724 01:01:39,604 --> 01:01:41,804 My carousel of pins 725 01:01:41,804 --> 01:01:44,584 I wanna be your real thing 726 01:01:44,584 --> 01:01:49,584 I wanna be your real thing I wanna make you spin 727 01:01:49,584 --> 01:01:54,584 I wanna be yours I'm up in orbit 728 01:01:54,584 --> 01:02:01,584 No, I can't ignore it I need some control 729 01:02:01,584 --> 01:02:06,584 No, I won't take it No, I won't take it 730 01:02:06,584 --> 01:02:11,584 Let's quietly revolve Let's quietly 731 01:02:11,584 --> 01:02:16,644 My vertical head is like a high speed jet 732 01:02:16,644 --> 01:02:20,824 I can't live without the trauma 733 01:02:20,824 --> 01:02:24,464 So let's try to exist 734 01:02:24,464 --> 01:02:27,244 And maybe we'll like it 735 01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:29,724 Maybe we'll like it 736 01:02:29,724 --> 01:02:32,364 Cause I wanna be your real thing 737 01:02:32,364 --> 01:02:34,504 I wanna make you spin 738 01:02:34,504 --> 01:02:37,264 I wanna be your real thing 739 01:02:37,264 --> 01:02:39,464 My carousel of pins 740 01:02:39,464 --> 01:02:42,324 I wanna be your real thing 741 01:02:42,324 --> 01:02:44,724 I wanna be your real thing 742 01:02:44,724 --> 01:02:46,864 I wanna make you spin 743 01:02:46,864 --> 01:02:49,784 I wanna be your real thing 744 01:02:59,544 --> 01:03:01,904 I wanna be your real thing 745 01:03:02,364 --> 01:03:06,944 Wanna make you spin 746 01:03:06,944 --> 01:03:10,084 I want to be your real thing 747 01:03:10,084 --> 01:03:17,344 That was Spin by The Trusted. 748 01:03:18,104 --> 01:03:20,104 Lovely acoustic version there. 749 01:03:20,924 --> 01:03:21,624 Enjoy that. 750 01:03:21,904 --> 01:03:22,984 Nice, pleasant song. 751 01:03:24,344 --> 01:03:29,304 Yeah, you know, that track is one of those where 752 01:03:29,304 --> 01:03:35,524 it really speaks to, I think, kind of like human interactions 753 01:03:35,524 --> 01:03:42,904 and how things sort of are, you know, you want to find authenticity. 754 01:03:43,584 --> 01:03:45,684 You want to find the real thing. 755 01:03:46,564 --> 01:03:50,624 And you want to, you know, live an authentic life. 756 01:03:51,304 --> 01:03:54,224 And a lot of times, you know, it takes finding that other person 757 01:03:54,224 --> 01:03:58,204 and then kind of spinning out of control and going kind of a little bit crazy 758 01:03:58,204 --> 01:04:05,304 with that person to really discover yourself and to find the truth. 759 01:04:05,524 --> 01:04:12,184 Um, at least that's how I, I hear the song, you know, um, and, and that's how I interpret it 760 01:04:12,184 --> 01:04:18,344 anyways. And so that kind of speaks to me as well, because, um, I, I, I'm, I'm very introspective. 761 01:04:18,564 --> 01:04:24,544 Um, I like to think about, uh, myself from a philosophical level and like kind of what my 762 01:04:24,544 --> 01:04:29,604 place in this world and what I'm doing, why I'm here, all that sort of stuff. Right. Um, 763 01:04:29,924 --> 01:04:35,404 and so this song kind of, when I hear it, it makes me reflect. Um, it really makes me kind of think, 764 01:04:35,404 --> 01:04:42,204 And that's why I think that's why I kind of put it on this Sunday brunch playlist here, because, you know, I think it's the perfect time. 765 01:04:42,284 --> 01:04:50,024 You know, it's the end of the week. It's the sort of you're sitting down to a, you know, a late breakfast and early lunch, kind of hanging out. 766 01:04:50,144 --> 01:04:57,444 And it's a great time to think about your life and think about the people in your life and their effects on you, your effects on them. 767 01:04:58,044 --> 01:05:04,564 And, you know, all of you reflect on your relationships and, you know, how those people have brought you to where you are today. 768 01:05:05,404 --> 01:05:17,664 Yeah. Definitely a lovely sentiment. Why don't we jump straight to your next song here? Do you want to talk a little bit about that? This is by an artist called Mookie, correct? 769 01:05:17,664 --> 01:05:41,564 Yeah, yeah. So Mookie is a local artist to me, which was awesome. And I've got a kind of an interesting story, but I know we're a little bit pressed on time. But this song is a completely new song to DMU, to the Valleyverse. So was the Velvix's favorite child, actually. I uploaded these two tracks specifically for this show. 770 01:05:41,564 --> 01:05:49,744 Um, and so, uh, this is one of the songs, one of the first early songs of Mookie's that I had heard. 771 01:05:49,904 --> 01:05:58,364 Uh, he's one of the bands I, I, uh, signed to hash power, um, to try to see what we could do, you know, with what he had. 772 01:05:58,404 --> 01:06:02,084 So I'll let you guys play the song first and then we'll, uh, we can talk about it after. 773 01:06:03,924 --> 01:06:07,024 This is shotgun by Mookie. 774 01:06:11,564 --> 01:06:29,864 Shy gun, suicide 775 01:06:29,864 --> 01:06:35,024 Left your mom and your brother behind 776 01:06:35,024 --> 01:06:39,804 Shy gun, bed you deny 777 01:06:39,804 --> 01:06:44,804 If you saw your daddy crying for the first time 778 01:06:44,804 --> 01:06:48,804 Shotgun suicide 779 01:06:48,804 --> 01:06:53,944 Calling for a gun in the right 780 01:06:53,944 --> 01:06:58,604 Shotgun suicide 781 01:06:58,604 --> 01:07:06,704 My good friend died last year 782 01:07:06,704 --> 01:07:08,624 To hold another cut 783 01:07:08,624 --> 01:07:23,484 card 784 01:07:23,484 --> 01:07:53,464 GREG regions 785 01:07:53,484 --> 01:07:59,484 After the night you saw your daddy crying for the first time 786 01:07:59,484 --> 01:08:05,484 Shotgun suicide 787 01:08:05,484 --> 01:08:08,484 Calling for a gun or a ride 788 01:08:08,484 --> 01:08:14,484 Shotgun suicide 789 01:08:14,484 --> 01:08:20,304 Maybe you're well 790 01:08:20,304 --> 01:08:22,404 Hoping you don't 791 01:08:22,404 --> 01:08:24,224 Cigarette smoke 792 01:08:24,224 --> 01:08:26,304 Feeling no, no, no 793 01:08:26,304 --> 01:08:27,104 Choke 794 01:08:27,104 --> 01:08:29,664 My heart and you're scared 795 01:08:29,664 --> 01:08:31,684 Looking to kill you 796 01:08:31,684 --> 01:08:33,024 Your smile's dying 797 01:08:33,024 --> 01:08:36,164 But you're feeling too ill to cope 798 01:08:44,484 --> 01:09:14,464 Thank you. 799 01:09:14,484 --> 01:09:34,874 Hold on as it closes just goes by you be fine Hold on can help me it a hand up tight We will lie Just hold on 800 01:09:34,874 --> 01:09:39,754 Hold on, hold on 801 01:09:39,754 --> 01:09:43,054 Hold on, hold on 802 01:09:43,054 --> 01:09:45,614 Just hold on, hold on 803 01:09:45,614 --> 01:09:50,894 Just hold on, hold on 804 01:09:51,574 --> 01:09:55,074 Shotgun, suicide 805 01:09:55,074 --> 01:10:00,134 Left your mom and your brother behind 806 01:10:00,134 --> 01:10:04,934 Shotgun, edge of the knife 807 01:10:04,934 --> 01:10:09,854 You saw your daddy crying for the first time 808 01:10:09,854 --> 01:10:14,174 Shotgun, suicide 809 01:10:14,174 --> 01:10:18,994 Calling for a gun on the right 810 01:10:18,994 --> 01:10:20,994 Shotgun 811 01:10:20,994 --> 01:10:23,654 Suicide 812 01:10:23,654 --> 01:10:28,954 That was Shotgun by Mookie. 813 01:10:29,934 --> 01:10:30,874 Beautiful song. 814 01:10:31,874 --> 01:10:36,254 I think the thing that sticks out is the pronunciation of shotgun. 815 01:10:37,854 --> 01:10:39,454 It does stand out. 816 01:10:40,214 --> 01:10:42,954 Yeah, you know, Mookie is very quirky. 817 01:10:43,554 --> 01:10:45,154 He's a really interesting dude. 818 01:10:46,114 --> 01:10:48,714 His music is multifaceted. 819 01:10:48,714 --> 01:10:52,914 I don't know if you've heard of any of his other tracks, but a lot of them aren't the same. 820 01:10:53,554 --> 01:10:54,174 Let me say so. 821 01:10:54,574 --> 01:11:06,454 I, you know, OK, so I believe in synchronicity and, you know, and serendipity and all that sort of stuff, like full heartedly, because I think there's you got to grab it when it comes to you. 822 01:11:06,494 --> 01:11:12,394 Right. And so a few years ago, a horrible neighbor moved out right next to me. 823 01:11:12,394 --> 01:11:17,194 And, um, after a long process, uh, a new guy moved in. 824 01:11:17,774 --> 01:11:21,034 Um, and it turns out he's in the music business. 825 01:11:21,034 --> 01:11:22,474 He's in sync licensing. 826 01:11:23,194 --> 01:11:26,474 Um, he has two kids the same ages as mine. 827 01:11:26,994 --> 01:11:30,354 Um, and so we became fast friends and it was perfect. 828 01:11:30,414 --> 01:11:30,854 It was awesome. 829 01:11:30,854 --> 01:11:31,134 Right. 830 01:11:31,174 --> 01:11:36,954 And so one day he says, Hey man, uh, I've got this band, uh, Mookie, uh, check it out. 831 01:11:37,014 --> 01:11:38,994 So he sends it to me and, you know, he knows me. 832 01:11:39,054 --> 01:11:40,094 I like rock and roll. 833 01:11:40,174 --> 01:11:41,694 It's just like awesome rock track. 834 01:11:41,694 --> 01:11:43,214 I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm down with this. 835 01:11:43,554 --> 01:11:44,674 The thing is, check this one out. 836 01:11:44,794 --> 01:11:46,014 So he sends me this other track. 837 01:11:46,134 --> 01:11:47,434 I remember it was Susie Brown. 838 01:11:47,794 --> 01:11:49,674 It was just full on funk. 839 01:11:49,894 --> 01:11:53,094 I mean, it was like the most funkalicious, dank ass song. 840 01:11:53,554 --> 01:11:57,714 You know, like it was, you know, you could tell Susie was getting down on this one. 841 01:11:58,454 --> 01:12:01,874 It's like, wow, this is the same guy, you know, and he sends me another track and it's 842 01:12:01,874 --> 01:12:03,634 just a full on rap song. 843 01:12:03,934 --> 01:12:05,934 I mean, like I'm talking like Ludacris. 844 01:12:06,074 --> 01:12:08,274 He's going off and just like, I'm like, holy shit. 845 01:12:08,374 --> 01:12:08,594 Right. 846 01:12:09,274 --> 01:12:11,554 So I'm like, he's like, yes, dude's playing later tonight. 847 01:12:11,554 --> 01:12:12,214 You want to go? 848 01:12:12,614 --> 01:12:13,854 I'm like, you fucking kidding me? 849 01:12:13,954 --> 01:12:14,174 Yeah. 850 01:12:14,234 --> 01:12:15,534 I want to know what's going on here. 851 01:12:15,614 --> 01:12:16,634 Like I need to find out. 852 01:12:17,894 --> 01:12:22,014 So I get there, we get to the bar and this is the middle of nowhere. 853 01:12:22,014 --> 01:12:23,794 I'm talking like it's in the ghetto. 854 01:12:24,074 --> 01:12:24,774 It's real bad. 855 01:12:25,814 --> 01:12:30,274 It's the most, you know, divey of dive bars. 856 01:12:30,274 --> 01:12:36,394 We walk in and the first thing I hear, as soon as I walk in, I hear from the stage, 857 01:12:37,474 --> 01:12:39,114 Hey, I'm Lee Cleveland. 858 01:12:39,254 --> 01:12:39,974 I'm from Detroit. 859 01:12:39,974 --> 01:12:44,594 and he starts playing and sorry this is in Cleveland right so I'm in Cleveland and he goes 860 01:12:44,594 --> 01:12:49,174 I'm Lee Cleveland I'm from Detroit and he starts playing and then I look up and he's just belting 861 01:12:49,174 --> 01:12:55,974 I look up and the dude's got one arm the guy's name his band is Lee Cleveland and the left hand 862 01:12:55,974 --> 01:13:02,034 band he's missing his left arm and so he's got his guitar I'm talking he's got it you know Jimi 863 01:13:02,034 --> 01:13:06,994 Hendrix style he's holding it and he's like strumming or strumming with his nub and he's got 864 01:13:06,994 --> 01:13:11,554 he's fingering with his right hand playing this amazing track you know talking about somebody about 865 01:13:11,554 --> 01:13:16,834 a robot arm or something it's pretty funny and then he goes and grabs the bass guitar flips it 866 01:13:16,834 --> 01:13:24,014 over and starts fingering with his like what you know i don't mean to be offensive but like the the 867 01:13:24,014 --> 01:13:28,994 nut part like and then he's you know and strumming with his fingers like holy shit what is going on 868 01:13:28,994 --> 01:13:33,094 tonight right this band was incredible you know i had to go and talk to him and everything like that 869 01:13:33,094 --> 01:13:36,574 But then Mookie gets on and his live performance. 870 01:13:36,714 --> 01:13:51,174 And this is in my philosophy with music is if you're blown away by the live performance, then you have to like there's something there because, quote unquote, anyone can, you know, create an amazing studio track if you had enough auto tune and everything and all the technology. 871 01:13:51,314 --> 01:13:54,234 Right. Had enough AI, you could probably do it real nice. 872 01:13:56,174 --> 01:13:58,054 But you can't fake live. 873 01:13:58,654 --> 01:14:01,694 And so when you hear real talent live, like that's it. 874 01:14:01,794 --> 01:14:02,794 That's that, you know. 875 01:14:03,094 --> 01:14:08,374 And so his repertoire, his whole range is just amazing. 876 01:14:08,714 --> 01:14:11,754 So I urge you to check out Mookie's music on V4V. 877 01:14:11,814 --> 01:14:12,854 There's tons of it out there. 878 01:14:13,834 --> 01:14:16,894 Yeah, we'll definitely do so. 879 01:14:17,534 --> 01:14:21,914 Let's talk a little bit about, go back and talk a little bit about Hashbar music. 880 01:14:23,094 --> 01:14:28,274 So you said the Retrograde was the first band you onboarded, correct? 881 01:14:28,954 --> 01:14:29,494 Yeah, that's right. 882 01:14:29,934 --> 01:14:30,454 Okay. 883 01:14:30,634 --> 01:14:32,714 And then the Velvix is another one. 884 01:14:32,714 --> 01:14:35,794 So how many are you up to now? 885 01:14:36,734 --> 01:14:37,594 Oh, that's a good question. 886 01:14:38,034 --> 01:14:39,254 I'll list them off and you can count them. 887 01:14:40,314 --> 01:14:42,374 So, yeah, we started with the retrograde. 888 01:14:43,474 --> 01:14:47,774 Southern rock, you know, and the Velvix, just full on sort of classic rock styles. 889 01:14:48,894 --> 01:14:52,614 From there, we found the Trusted. 890 01:14:53,174 --> 01:14:55,614 So the Trusted, you know, is the Brit rock. 891 01:14:56,134 --> 01:14:59,814 And then we also, I found Mookie. 892 01:14:59,814 --> 01:15:06,774 you know so we found him locally but then we also have a band out in LA called Circle the Earth 893 01:15:06,774 --> 01:15:15,734 and these guys are kind of actually one of the the bassist is an old friend and they have a band 894 01:15:15,734 --> 01:15:20,514 that they've been trying to build up for quite a while and they've got a very interesting story 895 01:15:20,514 --> 01:15:23,974 because their whole band is from all over the place right that's why they're Circle the Earth 896 01:15:23,974 --> 01:15:31,654 and so we signed them and working with them on v4v stuff so we were they had we had them under 897 01:15:31,654 --> 01:15:40,454 management for a while and then their guitarist uh kazuki takaji he went solo and so we picked up 898 01:15:40,454 --> 01:15:47,814 his project as well and he's an incredible guitarist so if you ever go uh to any of the 899 01:15:47,814 --> 01:15:55,314 podcasting apps view for view music or anything like that um you can find kazuki takaji um he's 900 01:15:55,314 --> 01:16:01,394 the lead guitarist and he's just he has genius fingers i don't know how he does it um but he's 901 01:16:01,394 --> 01:16:08,534 one of the best guitarists i've ever heard um he absolutely shreds so and then um yeah and then 902 01:16:08,534 --> 01:16:17,834 let's see here i think who am i missing um this is that was six or seven i lost count 903 01:16:17,834 --> 01:16:24,514 yeah i actually have to check my my nostril profile to see oh right and so we also have um 904 01:16:24,514 --> 01:16:31,774 vicious clay uh so that that's another interesting one as well because um so the velvics and you know 905 01:16:31,774 --> 01:16:36,814 that that's a band that doesn't exist anymore those guys broke up uh right after we cut their 906 01:16:36,814 --> 01:16:43,134 album right before we developed it yeah so this is another oh no yeah so this was i mean this was 907 01:16:43,134 --> 01:16:49,154 years ago like we we we you know we did we actually we cut their album at the foo fighter studio 606 908 01:16:49,154 --> 01:16:56,254 studios um the foo fighters engineer was the one who put it all together um like their lead 909 01:16:56,254 --> 01:17:00,614 engineer and all that and it was incredible and everything was was great um but you know as music 910 01:17:00,614 --> 01:17:06,794 goes like things move very slowly sometimes um and it doesn't hit until it hits and so they were 911 01:17:06,794 --> 01:17:07,914 kind of getting anxious. 912 01:17:07,914 --> 01:17:12,714 And then one thing leads to another thing and then drama happens and there is a 913 01:17:12,714 --> 01:17:14,054 Yoko Ono situation. 914 01:17:14,774 --> 01:17:15,294 Um, 915 01:17:15,854 --> 01:17:22,454 then there was a divorce and then there was a eloping and the band broke and 916 01:17:22,454 --> 01:17:23,274 broke up. 917 01:17:23,394 --> 01:17:24,354 And so, 918 01:17:24,354 --> 01:17:25,014 uh, 919 01:17:25,414 --> 01:17:25,694 the, 920 01:17:25,694 --> 01:17:27,094 the guitarist, 921 01:17:27,114 --> 01:17:27,654 uh, 922 01:17:27,654 --> 01:17:28,174 for them, 923 01:17:28,274 --> 01:17:29,674 he left and he said, 924 01:17:29,734 --> 01:17:30,914 I'm going to start my own project. 925 01:17:30,914 --> 01:17:32,274 And he's out in New York right now. 926 01:17:32,374 --> 01:17:32,774 Um, 927 01:17:32,814 --> 01:17:34,134 and that's a vicious clay. 928 01:17:34,234 --> 01:17:35,074 So that's Vinny, 929 01:17:35,074 --> 01:17:35,494 uh, 930 01:17:35,494 --> 01:17:36,674 any of the Velvics will, 931 01:17:36,674 --> 01:17:42,434 formerly of the Velviks. Um, he's Vicious Clay and he's an incredible guitarist as well. Uh, 932 01:17:42,574 --> 01:17:45,834 yeah, definitely check out a lot of his, especially if you're kind of into that sort of, 933 01:17:46,734 --> 01:17:57,554 um, nineties sort of rock. Yeah. He's really good. Um, we have right now. Um, but we're always kind 934 01:17:57,554 --> 01:18:03,474 of looking to see what's that next thing. And always for us, you know, it's who can we empower, 935 01:18:03,474 --> 01:18:10,314 You know, because that's what we try to do with the trusted, you know, who can we give a chance to that wouldn't otherwise, you know? 936 01:18:10,514 --> 01:18:18,874 Yeah. So let's talk about the actual day to day of how you work with the bands. 937 01:18:19,534 --> 01:18:26,954 You know, I know you touched upon some of it, but this is beyond just helping them get the RSS feed and out there and all of that. 938 01:18:27,014 --> 01:18:30,474 Right. It's it's you do more than that, I'm assuming. 939 01:18:30,754 --> 01:18:32,614 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a lot more than that. 940 01:18:33,474 --> 01:18:38,094 Um, we, we work very closely with the artists that we sort of sign on. 941 01:18:38,214 --> 01:18:44,394 Um, of course we do have services where we're like, yeah, we'll just, we'll set up your RSS feed and we'll get you up there. 942 01:18:44,394 --> 01:18:45,934 And, you know, and that's sort of that. 943 01:18:46,514 --> 01:18:54,594 Um, but what our focus is, you know, is really developing artists and kind of giving them that leg up that they need. 944 01:18:54,974 --> 01:19:03,274 Uh, because look, it's, it's one of those industries where if you don't know somebody and they don't, you know, then, then you're not going to get very far quite honestly. 945 01:19:03,474 --> 01:19:05,954 or at least it's very, very difficult. 946 01:19:06,534 --> 01:19:08,874 And a lot of the times when you do get to a certain point 947 01:19:08,874 --> 01:19:10,694 where you do get pretty far, you hit a wall 948 01:19:10,694 --> 01:19:12,954 where it's a kind of a boys club, right? 949 01:19:12,954 --> 01:19:14,474 You're going to need to know somebody to get in. 950 01:19:15,194 --> 01:19:16,974 And that's on the legacy side, right? 951 01:19:17,974 --> 01:19:21,114 And so the beauty of like this side, 952 01:19:21,754 --> 01:19:26,814 you can kind of just do it yourself and figure it out, right? 953 01:19:27,194 --> 01:19:29,194 But we're not big enough to do that. 954 01:19:29,194 --> 01:19:31,594 And so part of what we try to do 955 01:19:31,594 --> 01:19:37,874 is to help all the V4V artists that we can and promote them on the legacy side, wherever we can, 956 01:19:37,994 --> 01:19:42,894 you know, to try to get their sound out there. And part of that is, right, we're putting our name on 957 01:19:42,894 --> 01:19:47,454 that. So we're saying, hey, look, like this is somebody that we vet, somebody that we think are 958 01:19:47,454 --> 01:19:53,674 incredible and that you should give a chance. And so as part of that, well, we need to develop them 959 01:19:53,674 --> 01:20:00,654 and making sure and help them to, you know, be the best that they can be, to be, you know, to really 960 01:20:00,654 --> 01:20:07,114 help you round out your sound and and help you with strategies on you know marketing and and and 961 01:20:07,114 --> 01:20:11,994 promotion and publishing you know and all those sort of things and navigating the sharks in the 962 01:20:11,994 --> 01:20:16,534 water because what ends up happening is as soon as you're you know your music starts to take off 963 01:20:16,534 --> 01:20:22,934 uh you're gonna get a ton of offers from a ton of sharks from a ton of people who don't have your 964 01:20:22,934 --> 01:20:28,714 best interest in mind um and so it's just helping these artists navigate those waters because it's 965 01:20:28,714 --> 01:20:35,954 it's, it's really bad out there. Um, and it easily get taken advantage of. So, you know, 966 01:20:35,954 --> 01:20:39,934 and, and so, so we, we, we help from all angles. Right. So like, and it really depends, 967 01:20:39,934 --> 01:20:44,134 we work with artists based off of what they want and what they need from us. Right. Cause we're 968 01:20:44,134 --> 01:20:50,214 not here to tell you, Hey, you got to do all a, B and C to make it. Um, there's no formula. Uh, 969 01:20:50,274 --> 01:20:53,454 you know, you have to work with the music that you have, the audience that you have, 970 01:20:53,734 --> 01:20:58,474 bring your fans along for the ride. And, you know, and then when the time comes in the right 971 01:20:58,474 --> 01:21:06,714 circumstances happen put you in the right years you know and is the model uh that you you get 972 01:21:06,714 --> 01:21:14,294 the boost or zap splits on um on the songs or is it beyond that i mean i'm assuming the music goes 973 01:21:14,294 --> 01:21:21,474 on spotify and these other venues as well not just right so it goes it goes beyond um and it but it 974 01:21:21,474 --> 01:21:27,954 depends on where you sign with us you know in what capacity um so you know our bands are all they all 975 01:21:27,954 --> 01:21:32,174 kind of have different deals and different things going on and, you know, with different levels of 976 01:21:32,174 --> 01:21:39,994 involvement. And that affects then, you know, what we do on the V4V side of things. So the way we sort 977 01:21:39,994 --> 01:21:46,074 of look at it is this helps us make a better deal for those guys, because none of them, you know, 978 01:21:46,074 --> 01:21:51,194 pretty much none of them were other than the trusted, like even knew what Bitcoin was before 979 01:21:51,194 --> 01:21:56,194 kind of getting into all this stuff. Right. And, you know, they were willing to learn and listen 980 01:21:56,194 --> 01:22:03,094 and hear it out. But they, they, you know, that Bitcoin is like a nothing thing to them, right? 981 01:22:03,114 --> 01:22:07,994 It's magic internet money. So for them, like they're able to get a lot of services that they 982 01:22:07,994 --> 01:22:13,274 were looking for, for quote unquote free to them, right? Because, you know, that's not money for 983 01:22:13,274 --> 01:22:19,434 them right now, but at the start. And so we sign a deal with them. We take, you know, a certain 984 01:22:19,434 --> 01:22:25,374 percentage of, of, of their V4V stuff. And usually for us, it's a little bit higher because around 985 01:22:25,374 --> 01:22:30,574 like 20% or something, because part of that pays for what we're doing on the legacy side. 986 01:22:30,694 --> 01:22:37,054 So they don't end up, you know, paying us a dollar out of pocket to start out. It's only, 987 01:22:37,054 --> 01:22:41,374 only if they earn and we earn. Right. And so that's part of the model too, where we say like, 988 01:22:41,434 --> 01:22:47,294 we don't want to gouge you because we know you need that money for other things. So let's, 989 01:22:47,494 --> 01:22:55,194 you know, let's succeed together. And so we take a larger cut of their V4V streaming, 990 01:22:55,374 --> 01:22:57,334 stuff. However, 991 01:22:57,554 --> 01:22:58,814 streaming splits and everything. 992 01:22:59,774 --> 01:23:01,394 But we provide a lot of free 993 01:23:01,394 --> 01:23:03,274 service and a lot of sort of 994 01:23:03,274 --> 01:23:04,774 add-on stuff. We do 995 01:23:04,774 --> 01:23:05,794 almost all 996 01:23:05,794 --> 01:23:09,374 the artwork for all of our 997 01:23:09,374 --> 01:23:11,274 bands and everything like that, all the promotional 998 01:23:11,274 --> 01:23:13,374 posters, all that 999 01:23:13,374 --> 01:23:14,134 sort of stuff too. 1000 01:23:15,894 --> 01:23:23,304 We basically take on a whole lot We say look what do you need to succeed Where can we fill a gap That basically our model 1001 01:23:25,084 --> 01:23:25,484 Gotcha. 1002 01:23:26,644 --> 01:23:32,364 I'm actually looking at podcast index and I happen to go to the retrograde. 1003 01:23:32,484 --> 01:23:35,824 I actually don't see you in their split. 1004 01:23:36,764 --> 01:23:37,124 Oh, yeah. 1005 01:23:37,204 --> 01:23:44,784 So for them, the way we sort of set it up with them was, you know, they said, I don't want to deal with any of this. 1006 01:23:44,884 --> 01:23:49,664 Like, I don't want to deal with the Bitcoin side of things because I don't get it and I'm going to screw it up. 1007 01:23:49,664 --> 01:23:59,384 Right. So so they said, can you create a wallet for us where we just kind of have everything in there and then we can use as a band fund and all that sort of stuff? 1008 01:23:59,384 --> 01:24:02,264 And so when they were, you know, so they're not fine with us anymore. 1009 01:24:02,624 --> 01:24:06,344 They're independent now. They're kind of out there and they're getting bigger and better. 1010 01:24:06,444 --> 01:24:09,064 They're huge. And that's sort of our model as well. Right. 1011 01:24:09,064 --> 01:24:14,084 to kind of push them out so that they can get signed or onto a bigger label that can do more 1012 01:24:14,084 --> 01:24:21,624 for them, right? Because we have our limitations as well over here. And so, you know, we still have 1013 01:24:21,624 --> 01:24:27,504 a good relationship with them. And so we just kind of have all that sitting in a fund, a single one 1014 01:24:27,504 --> 01:24:35,684 just makes it easier. And we sort of, yeah, spend out of that one as we need. Gotcha. Yeah. I just 1015 01:24:35,684 --> 01:24:43,224 checked with the velvics and i now i i can see the split uh there yeah yeah so it depends on like 1016 01:24:43,224 --> 01:24:46,984 it depends on the you know the the band that we're at and the deal that we have with them 1017 01:24:46,984 --> 01:24:50,064 and so it sort of affects the setup on the wallet side 1018 01:24:50,064 --> 01:24:58,864 okay so let's play your last song uh do you want to talk a little bit about that before we play it 1019 01:24:58,864 --> 01:25:04,604 yeah so so so this is um the next song is going to be called blood perfume by survival guide 1020 01:25:04,604 --> 01:25:12,884 and she's one of my like recent finds for me uh that i'm absolutely in love with um i love her 1021 01:25:12,884 --> 01:25:19,444 sound she's dark she's moody um but she you know has a lot of soul in what she's trying to say 1022 01:25:19,444 --> 01:25:26,244 but she's also very unique and creative and i i i find myself gravitating towards weird creative 1023 01:25:26,244 --> 01:25:33,224 interesting quirky stuff right and so this um this album that i think it's her latest album 1024 01:25:33,224 --> 01:25:35,304 called Death Dreams. 1025 01:25:35,604 --> 01:25:37,484 But as part of this album, 1026 01:25:37,484 --> 01:25:41,404 she actually released a cocktail book called Death Drinks. 1027 01:25:42,104 --> 01:25:44,684 And that pairs with the album, 1028 01:25:44,964 --> 01:25:48,904 each track as a drink pairing with recipe 1029 01:25:48,904 --> 01:25:51,664 and a little bit of, you know, talk, talking, 1030 01:25:52,104 --> 01:25:55,624 whatever, talky bits about descriptions about the drink 1031 01:25:55,624 --> 01:25:58,204 and how it, you know, pairs with the song, 1032 01:25:58,404 --> 01:26:00,184 you know, tasting notes or whatever. 1033 01:26:00,624 --> 01:26:03,104 So I thought that was super cool, super creative. 1034 01:26:03,224 --> 01:26:05,504 it's available on our website if you want to go get it 1035 01:26:05,504 --> 01:26:07,024 she's not one of our bands 1036 01:26:07,024 --> 01:26:09,764 but I just love her music 1037 01:26:09,764 --> 01:26:10,844 to death and I love 1038 01:26:10,844 --> 01:26:13,144 her message in this one 1039 01:26:13,144 --> 01:26:15,824 is kind of 1040 01:26:15,824 --> 01:26:17,104 you'll hear it 1041 01:26:17,104 --> 01:26:17,644 yeah 1042 01:26:17,644 --> 01:26:21,844 this is Blood Perfume 1043 01:26:21,844 --> 01:26:23,084 by Survival Guide 1044 01:26:27,824 --> 01:26:30,764 all you gotta do is believe me 1045 01:26:30,764 --> 01:26:32,164 I love the way 1046 01:26:32,164 --> 01:26:33,484 Let you trust me 1047 01:26:33,484 --> 01:26:35,984 I love the way you're putting on a buff me 1048 01:26:35,984 --> 01:26:37,164 It's your turn 1049 01:26:37,164 --> 01:26:38,904 Prove that you love me 1050 01:26:38,904 --> 01:26:41,544 My words become your scriptures 1051 01:26:41,544 --> 01:26:42,884 Got the best 1052 01:26:42,884 --> 01:26:44,444 Evidential pictures 1053 01:26:44,444 --> 01:26:47,404 I know you better than you do 1054 01:26:47,404 --> 01:26:50,264 You know how much I protect you 1055 01:26:50,264 --> 01:26:53,784 You can't say no 1056 01:26:53,784 --> 01:27:00,164 To the brightest teeth in the room 1057 01:27:02,164 --> 01:27:06,164 You can't say no 1058 01:27:06,164 --> 01:27:10,164 When I slip a little bit of blood 1059 01:27:10,164 --> 01:27:15,164 Into my perfume 1060 01:27:15,164 --> 01:27:21,164 Into my perfume 1061 01:27:21,164 --> 01:27:23,164 Just a little bit 1062 01:27:27,164 --> 01:27:31,164 Into my perfume 1063 01:27:32,164 --> 01:27:34,164 I'm in it, I'm gone 1064 01:27:34,164 --> 01:27:43,924 You wake first thing, wanna see me 1065 01:27:43,924 --> 01:27:46,664 I make it so so easy 1066 01:27:46,664 --> 01:27:49,504 Just kneel and kiss my feetsies 1067 01:27:49,504 --> 01:27:52,344 That's all you gotta do to appease me 1068 01:27:52,344 --> 01:27:55,424 So go and play the part now 1069 01:27:55,424 --> 01:27:58,184 I'll allow you to feel smart now 1070 01:27:58,184 --> 01:28:00,484 You think it's your decision 1071 01:28:00,484 --> 01:28:03,504 And as you execute my vision 1072 01:28:03,504 --> 01:28:07,204 You can't say no 1073 01:28:07,204 --> 01:28:13,564 To the brightest teeth in the room 1074 01:28:13,564 --> 01:28:19,044 You can't say no 1075 01:28:19,044 --> 01:28:23,484 When I slip a little bit of your blood 1076 01:28:23,484 --> 01:28:26,264 Into my love, you 1077 01:28:26,264 --> 01:28:31,924 Into my perfume 1078 01:28:31,924 --> 01:28:37,164 Just a little bit 1079 01:28:37,164 --> 01:28:43,804 Into my perfume 1080 01:28:43,804 --> 01:28:48,004 A bit of your mind 1081 01:28:48,004 --> 01:28:55,864 I will keep you safe 1082 01:28:56,264 --> 01:29:06,744 If you take my hand, do not look away. 1083 01:29:06,744 --> 01:29:15,564 Give me all you have. 1084 01:29:15,564 --> 01:29:26,544 You can't say no 1085 01:29:26,544 --> 01:29:32,744 To the brightest teeth in the room 1086 01:29:32,744 --> 01:29:38,044 You can't say no 1087 01:29:38,044 --> 01:29:42,684 When I slip a little bit of your blood 1088 01:29:42,684 --> 01:29:45,264 Into my love, you 1089 01:29:45,264 --> 01:29:49,384 You can't say no 1090 01:29:49,384 --> 01:30:00,704 You can't say no 1091 01:30:00,704 --> 01:30:08,564 When I slip a little bit of your blood into my fucking shoe 1092 01:30:15,264 --> 01:30:22,424 That was Blood Perfume by Survival Guide. 1093 01:30:22,644 --> 01:30:23,404 I love that. 1094 01:30:23,564 --> 01:30:27,824 In fact, the thing that kept recurring in my head 1095 01:30:27,824 --> 01:30:32,204 is Blood Perfume would have been a great name 1096 01:30:32,204 --> 01:30:34,824 for a Bond movie in the Pierce Brosnan era, 1097 01:30:34,824 --> 01:30:37,004 and this would have been a fantastic theme song 1098 01:30:37,004 --> 01:30:38,384 for that Bond movie. 1099 01:30:38,804 --> 01:30:40,904 I've got to go talk to my neighbor about this, 1100 01:30:41,244 --> 01:30:43,544 getting her into some movies, 1101 01:30:43,544 --> 01:30:46,504 because absolutely the atmosphere and everything, 1102 01:30:46,624 --> 01:30:47,344 oh, it's perfect. 1103 01:30:47,744 --> 01:30:49,084 It's absolutely 007. 1104 01:30:51,384 --> 01:30:51,944 Great. 1105 01:30:53,444 --> 01:30:57,164 Yeah, you know, so Survival Guide, 1106 01:30:57,444 --> 01:31:00,284 like I said, she's one of my new favorites recently 1107 01:31:00,284 --> 01:31:03,044 that I've been listening to on repeat forever. 1108 01:31:03,684 --> 01:31:06,044 She's actually going to be playing live as well 1109 01:31:06,044 --> 01:31:07,324 on South by Worldwide. 1110 01:31:07,904 --> 01:31:11,524 She's going to be on Saturday at 3 p.m. Central. 1111 01:31:11,524 --> 01:31:19,764 um so from three to four uh she'll be rocking it so definitely go and check her out um she's got 1112 01:31:19,764 --> 01:31:25,144 the full band with her this time um and then also you know i hope i didn't gloss over it but i think 1113 01:31:25,144 --> 01:31:30,684 i'm not sure if we confirm the time but uh yours you're coming on what friday at 1 p.m central 1114 01:31:30,684 --> 01:31:41,144 that is what uh i spoke to shadrach about yes i have it as as as to eastern um 1115 01:31:41,144 --> 01:31:47,144 is there a schedule up somewhere there is not yet i mean i've got a schedule here but we're still 1116 01:31:47,144 --> 01:31:52,804 sort of shifting acts around just a little bit because we have most of our music acts uh solidified 1117 01:31:52,804 --> 01:31:58,064 and everything like that um but we just want to move some interviews and panels and talky bits 1118 01:31:58,064 --> 01:32:03,344 um you know to round out the the programming uh to make sure you know it's interesting for 1119 01:32:03,344 --> 01:32:09,584 everybody the whole way through yeah and i know shadrach also wanted me to reach out to oscar 1120 01:32:09,584 --> 01:32:10,944 Oscar Mary from Fountain 1121 01:32:10,944 --> 01:32:13,444 if he wanted to be 1122 01:32:13,444 --> 01:32:15,684 part of one of those talks 1123 01:32:15,684 --> 01:32:17,104 so Oscar 1124 01:32:17,104 --> 01:32:18,824 if you're listening 1125 01:32:18,824 --> 01:32:21,144 then reach out to me 1126 01:32:21,144 --> 01:32:22,824 and I'll connect you to Shadrach 1127 01:32:22,824 --> 01:32:25,044 I don't think you have a direct line 1128 01:32:25,044 --> 01:32:25,564 to each other 1129 01:32:25,564 --> 01:32:27,084 or I don't know 1130 01:32:27,084 --> 01:32:29,504 would you be a good person to talk to? 1131 01:32:30,044 --> 01:32:30,764 Yeah, yeah, actually 1132 01:32:30,764 --> 01:32:32,584 I'm kind of working on all the programming 1133 01:32:32,584 --> 01:32:34,464 so yeah, absolutely 1134 01:32:34,464 --> 01:32:35,584 if he wants to reach out to me 1135 01:32:35,584 --> 01:32:38,004 I would absolutely love to have him on 1136 01:32:38,004 --> 01:32:44,824 we've got a music tech sort of panel that we're trying to put together with uh chad f uh so i 1137 01:32:44,824 --> 01:32:51,144 think oscar and chad f would have a great conversation oh yeah both great folks uh both 1138 01:32:51,144 --> 01:32:56,184 friends of the show uh actually since since we're talking about it we might as well take a minute to 1139 01:32:56,184 --> 01:33:03,644 talk about logistics my talk um when i on friday is that going to be um what is that is that a panel 1140 01:33:03,644 --> 01:33:07,204 or will someone be asking me questions about finding home? 1141 01:33:07,304 --> 01:33:08,124 How's that going to work? 1142 01:33:09,584 --> 01:33:10,684 How do you want it to work? 1143 01:33:14,344 --> 01:33:19,484 Yeah, I mean, we can make it happen how you would like it. 1144 01:33:20,824 --> 01:33:25,404 This one, I think Shadrack is sort of taking the charge on. 1145 01:33:25,784 --> 01:33:26,724 Okay, I'll talk to him. 1146 01:33:26,724 --> 01:33:31,504 We have you and I believe we do have someone from IndieHub also there. 1147 01:33:32,024 --> 01:33:32,524 Yeah, Zach. 1148 01:33:32,524 --> 01:33:47,284 So I'm thinking what we can do is we can have either DeLorean or Spencer, one of our emcees, interview the two of you in the sort of panel-ish type of setting. 1149 01:33:48,224 --> 01:33:54,384 And then, yeah, you guys can talk about your different projects and how they sort of align and everything like that. 1150 01:33:55,684 --> 01:33:59,344 And in fact, can you give a little preview about what you sort of want to talk about with that? 1151 01:33:59,344 --> 01:34:01,784 I think my understanding and 1152 01:34:01,784 --> 01:34:04,364 Shadrach's been busy so we've just exchanged 1153 01:34:04,364 --> 01:34:05,024 a few notes 1154 01:34:05,024 --> 01:34:07,744 one of the things they want 1155 01:34:07,744 --> 01:34:10,124 to do is highlight 1156 01:34:10,124 --> 01:34:12,084 the work they're doing with IndieHub 1157 01:34:12,084 --> 01:34:13,484 the Web5 and all of it 1158 01:34:13,484 --> 01:34:15,064 I don't know if they still call it Web5 1159 01:34:15,064 --> 01:34:17,324 whatever the technology stack 1160 01:34:17,324 --> 01:34:19,124 the folks out in Austin are building 1161 01:34:19,124 --> 01:34:21,204 the Bitcoin Noster stuff 1162 01:34:21,204 --> 01:34:22,884 they're working with IndieHub 1163 01:34:22,884 --> 01:34:25,544 and Finding Home 1164 01:34:25,544 --> 01:34:27,304 is the project on IndieHub 1165 01:34:27,304 --> 01:34:28,944 Finding Home is my travel show 1166 01:34:28,944 --> 01:34:37,084 So that's the project on IndieHub that they want to showcase as part of the whole technology stack. 1167 01:34:38,544 --> 01:34:38,944 Gotcha. 1168 01:34:39,164 --> 01:34:39,344 Yeah. 1169 01:34:39,584 --> 01:34:43,104 You know, like that's part of the whole like South by, you know, thing, right? 1170 01:34:43,104 --> 01:34:49,224 Like we're trying to showcase what we can do with technology, what we can do on the entertainment side of things over here. 1171 01:34:49,804 --> 01:34:53,404 And so, yeah, you know, IndieHub with all the movies and stuff like that. 1172 01:34:53,724 --> 01:34:55,504 They're also getting into music as well. 1173 01:34:56,064 --> 01:34:58,644 I think it'll, yeah, it'll be really cool. 1174 01:34:58,944 --> 01:35:07,304 yeah for sure anything else you want to plug on the south by worldwide um no i mean other than 1175 01:35:07,304 --> 01:35:14,444 other than look uh you know tune in because a lot of your nostril favorites are going to be on here 1176 01:35:14,444 --> 01:35:20,944 um i can even run through the quick list of what i've got um it'll be pretty interesting so we have 1177 01:35:20,944 --> 01:35:26,324 an open mic section set segment um we have a couple new bands like heuristic he's going to be doing 1178 01:35:26,324 --> 01:35:27,664 some Deep House techno stuff. 1179 01:35:28,344 --> 01:35:29,524 There's Fire Spinning. 1180 01:35:29,864 --> 01:35:31,704 Strangelove is going to be doing an interview. 1181 01:35:31,984 --> 01:35:33,704 We've got the whole Homegrown Hits show. 1182 01:35:34,104 --> 01:35:35,704 It's going to be a music video show. 1183 01:35:36,184 --> 01:35:37,564 That'll be really interesting. 1184 01:35:38,684 --> 01:35:41,344 There's Helene with some healing music. 1185 01:35:41,784 --> 01:35:43,864 We're going to have them on a talk 1186 01:35:43,864 --> 01:35:44,984 on a panel with Ivy Lumi. 1187 01:35:45,284 --> 01:35:47,504 And, Ivy, you're the reason that happened. 1188 01:35:47,844 --> 01:35:50,604 I was listening to your show last week 1189 01:35:50,604 --> 01:35:52,084 and Ivy shouted them out. 1190 01:35:52,164 --> 01:35:53,804 And I was like, well, that's a perfect pairing. 1191 01:35:53,804 --> 01:36:01,304 you know um great so i had to make that happen um you know bear sounds project uh like i said we've 1192 01:36:01,304 --> 01:36:07,964 got uh chad f abel james is going to be uh speaking uh anonymous sent in a pre-recorded set 1193 01:36:07,964 --> 01:36:15,044 from uh satconf um so that'll be really cool um then we're also then restreaming uh maggie mays so 1194 01:36:15,044 --> 01:36:21,584 so uh open mic he's got a show uh happening at maggie mays which is like a metal show he's got 1195 01:36:21,584 --> 01:36:26,524 two different stages um we're hopefully going to be switching cameras between the two because i 1196 01:36:26,524 --> 01:36:31,984 don't think they're streaming that on toonster um so we'll pick up that stream forum um and run it 1197 01:36:31,984 --> 01:36:38,484 on south by worldwide uh so that'll be going all friday night uh we've got uh hopefully fingers 1198 01:36:38,484 --> 01:36:46,244 crossed mad monkey and the 2140 boys uh in this set uh they've had some technical issues with their 1199 01:36:46,244 --> 01:36:50,664 equipment uh because they've been busy they're traveling all the time setting up uh you know 1200 01:36:50,664 --> 01:36:53,964 putting together equipment and putting it, taking it apart. Um, 1201 01:36:54,264 --> 01:36:57,944 so had some mishaps. So we'll see how that goes. Um, 1202 01:36:57,944 --> 01:37:02,364 a big chest to my brother, Mad monkey, if you're listening, my friend, 1203 01:37:02,884 --> 01:37:18,674 but carry on Yeah Yeah For sure man Mad monkeys he a man Um uh we also have a panel with open mic so he be coming on Um the higher low has sent in some some stuff We got Strange Love like I said and then we got Survival Guide who going to be playing live 1204 01:37:19,434 --> 01:37:23,654 We've also got a totally new guy, Cameron Shipwreck Bowman. 1205 01:37:25,334 --> 01:37:27,734 The two of them actually are going to... 1206 01:37:27,734 --> 01:37:33,194 Sorry, Cameron Shipwreck Bowman and Euristic are both going to be playing from Cambodia. 1207 01:37:33,974 --> 01:37:36,874 They're coming in on sunrise. 1208 01:37:36,874 --> 01:37:43,854 So it's 5 p.m. Central, but there will be a sunrise their time at an outdoor venue in Cambodia. 1209 01:37:43,994 --> 01:37:45,534 So that'll be insane. 1210 01:37:46,714 --> 01:37:47,734 Can't wait for that. 1211 01:37:47,994 --> 01:37:50,054 We also have a new artist, Josh Rogan. 1212 01:37:50,254 --> 01:37:51,254 He's one of our guys. 1213 01:37:52,634 --> 01:37:54,414 He'll be live streaming as well. 1214 01:37:54,754 --> 01:37:58,594 Hear My Roar and Abel James and SOB and the Dings. 1215 01:37:59,194 --> 01:38:00,534 And then still not done. 1216 01:38:00,614 --> 01:38:03,254 We still have Ravner Salinas, another new artist. 1217 01:38:03,254 --> 01:38:07,194 and then Fable, Sarah Jade, and Longhi. 1218 01:38:07,654 --> 01:38:09,074 And that's not even all of them. 1219 01:38:09,214 --> 01:38:10,474 We're still kind of getting people. 1220 01:38:10,614 --> 01:38:11,154 Wait, they're coming? 1221 01:38:12,294 --> 01:38:13,094 Longhi's coming? 1222 01:38:13,794 --> 01:38:14,774 And here am I wrong? 1223 01:38:15,334 --> 01:38:19,814 No, so unfortunately, those guys are all going to be sending in pre-recorded sets. 1224 01:38:20,754 --> 01:38:23,354 Yeah, most of the guys, and because it was just unfortunately 1225 01:38:23,354 --> 01:38:24,934 like the last minute nature of this, 1226 01:38:25,154 --> 01:38:26,954 a lot of the guys just couldn't make it out. 1227 01:38:26,954 --> 01:38:30,194 And it's South by Southwest tickets are like, you know, five, six hundred bucks, 1228 01:38:30,194 --> 01:38:38,194 you know, domestic on short hauls. So it's kind of crazy to get down there. But the cool thing is, 1229 01:38:38,194 --> 01:38:42,954 and this is, you know, the whole Nostra of it, right, is that this is what we're going to, 1230 01:38:43,374 --> 01:38:48,354 we're doing what we can and put this like amazing show together. This, you know, it's going to be 1231 01:38:48,354 --> 01:38:56,294 what it's going to be. And then we, because we're integrated as all Bitcoiners, it's all Nostra. 1232 01:38:56,294 --> 01:39:01,974 you know we have the venue we have all the artists here we have everything we can you know we're 1233 01:39:01,974 --> 01:39:07,654 going to be putting on more and more shows as we go and so as we sort of learn from the first uh 1234 01:39:07,654 --> 01:39:12,534 build it out to being the best that we can make it um you know the next one's going to be even 1235 01:39:12,534 --> 01:39:19,014 bigger and better and incredible so the the FOMO is something I really wish I could be there um 1236 01:39:19,014 --> 01:39:24,034 and and I know I mean both Zach Shadrach and others have been asking me to come I just 1237 01:39:24,034 --> 01:39:31,754 traveling is a bit of a bit of an issue for me right now which I need to solve through but 1238 01:39:31,754 --> 01:39:36,814 but yeah maybe the next one is now is this going to be streamed on zap.stream or 1239 01:39:36,814 --> 01:39:43,234 Noster live streaming so we will have Noster live streaming that's that's gonna that's definitely 1240 01:39:43,234 --> 01:39:47,314 in the books we're going to be creating an end pub for the for the venue because like I said 1241 01:39:47,314 --> 01:39:53,314 we're going to have more and more of this this is just the first of many so maybe in a little bit 1242 01:39:53,314 --> 01:40:00,134 smaller scale, you know, but we'll see. But this, you know, we'll have an end pub for it. And so 1243 01:40:00,134 --> 01:40:05,574 it'll be streaming on Noster. I think we're working on seeing how we can sort of hook it up 1244 01:40:05,574 --> 01:40:11,154 with ZapDop stream may and whatever else, you know, that's out there. So if anybody's got 1245 01:40:11,154 --> 01:40:17,114 suggestions on where else we should put it, let us know. We're, you know, like we're trying to get 1246 01:40:17,114 --> 01:40:21,474 it working everywhere we can because, you know, we want this heard worldwide. 1247 01:40:21,474 --> 01:40:41,934 Yeah. I mean, I would perhaps suggest doing a custom Zapstream setup, honestly. I mean, you can use the public Zapstream as well, but like this show, Sunday Brunch, my Plep Chain Radio, all my shows, I do it on my hosted Zapstream instance. 1248 01:40:41,934 --> 01:40:45,414 it'll take an hour or two to get it set up 1249 01:40:45,414 --> 01:40:46,554 and you should probably 1250 01:40:46,554 --> 01:40:49,574 invest in a somewhat beefy box 1251 01:40:49,574 --> 01:40:50,394 on DigitalOcean 1252 01:40:50,394 --> 01:40:52,974 when I say beefy 1253 01:40:52,974 --> 01:40:55,794 on DigitalOcean, 30-40 bucks a month 1254 01:40:55,794 --> 01:40:59,314 Are you able to run that 1255 01:40:59,314 --> 01:41:01,354 on a self-hosted server or anything like that? 1256 01:41:01,414 --> 01:41:02,794 Yeah, it's all self-hosted 1257 01:41:02,794 --> 01:41:03,414 that's what I'm saying 1258 01:41:03,414 --> 01:41:05,954 I could do it off a local machine 1259 01:41:05,954 --> 01:41:07,974 but I'm doing it on DigitalOcean 1260 01:41:07,974 --> 01:41:10,494 for the convenience 1261 01:41:10,494 --> 01:41:24,514 So, I mean, that just gives you, it removes the dependency on the public's app stream, because at that point, that's like, I mean, they have, it's gotten a lot better now, but they were having denial of service attacks day after day after day for the longest time. 1262 01:41:24,894 --> 01:41:26,014 I don't think that's an issue anymore. 1263 01:41:26,014 --> 01:41:41,294 But if you want to take matters entirely into your own hands, then, you know, if you have someone on the team who can spend the hour or two to get the DigitalOcean setup working and test it out, that's way more reliable, I think. 1264 01:41:41,914 --> 01:41:43,314 Yeah, we'll take a look at it for sure. 1265 01:41:44,214 --> 01:41:51,734 You know, one of the things that, you know, like you said, because this whole thing is, you know, self-custody, right? 1266 01:41:51,754 --> 01:41:54,034 That's the whole ethos of Bitcoin and everything like that, right? 1267 01:41:54,034 --> 01:41:56,514 Being able to do it on your own self-hosting and all that sort of stuff. 1268 01:41:56,614 --> 01:41:56,734 Right. 1269 01:41:57,394 --> 01:42:02,194 And so one of the things that we're using from the technology stack is called the split kit. 1270 01:42:02,894 --> 01:42:04,894 There's this cool thing created by Stephen B. 1271 01:42:05,374 --> 01:42:07,954 Shout out to him for putting that all together. 1272 01:42:08,294 --> 01:42:11,994 But it's like it has like an integrated sort of watch page and everything, too. 1273 01:42:11,994 --> 01:42:14,394 So it's also kind of a restream thing. 1274 01:42:14,554 --> 01:42:22,074 But its primary innovation is that we can switch wallets and everything live. 1275 01:42:22,074 --> 01:42:27,194 you know we can have it all sort of baked into the show based off of time stamps and everything 1276 01:42:27,194 --> 01:42:34,354 like that um and then you know we have all the sort of zap boost type um you know leaderboards 1277 01:42:34,354 --> 01:42:38,934 and all those little modules that we can throw in there and obviously the video and overlays and all 1278 01:42:38,934 --> 01:42:43,734 that sort of stuff um when people boost in it's going to be zap in uh obviously you can put a 1279 01:42:43,734 --> 01:42:47,254 comment right and so those comments will show up in like a super chat on the on the corner 1280 01:42:47,254 --> 01:42:48,514 or on the side. 1281 01:42:49,334 --> 01:42:52,934 And then they'll also sort of have a little graphic flash up. 1282 01:42:53,214 --> 01:42:55,374 We've got a cool little image that we created for it. 1283 01:42:55,814 --> 01:42:57,994 It'll sort of flash for a few minutes on screen 1284 01:42:57,994 --> 01:42:59,154 for all the viewers. 1285 01:42:59,774 --> 01:43:01,894 So you can get your voice out there 1286 01:43:01,894 --> 01:43:04,594 and people can see your messages and stuff. 1287 01:43:05,294 --> 01:43:08,714 And all that works through the split kit. 1288 01:43:09,314 --> 01:43:10,594 But because this is streaming 1289 01:43:10,594 --> 01:43:13,374 and because we have digital signals, 1290 01:43:13,374 --> 01:43:16,094 we can pipe it through a whole bunch of different feeds, 1291 01:43:16,094 --> 01:43:20,874 including like zapped off stream so yeah we'll definitely look into it and see what we can put 1292 01:43:20,874 --> 01:43:28,334 together in time awesome all right uh so it's come to the point of the show where i play my song 1293 01:43:28,334 --> 01:43:37,174 the one song that i choose um and i'm bringing back a band that uh i've played before uh it's 1294 01:43:37,174 --> 01:43:42,854 every now and then i play a song like this just to make sure people aren't falling asleep i mean i 1295 01:43:42,854 --> 01:43:44,974 doubt it. You had a really great 1296 01:43:44,974 --> 01:43:48,174 set list there. 1297 01:43:48,814 --> 01:43:51,194 But this one is called 1298 01:43:51,194 --> 01:43:52,714 The Marrow's 1299 01:43:52,714 --> 01:43:54,914 Chant by 1300 01:43:54,914 --> 01:43:55,754 Heartlight. 1301 01:44:12,854 --> 01:44:17,854 Where is break of the rock that will fall along the way? 1302 01:44:32,854 --> 01:44:33,854 What can she reach? 1303 01:44:33,854 --> 01:44:35,854 She's the dredgerish shore 1304 01:44:35,854 --> 01:44:37,854 In a forgotten place 1305 01:44:37,854 --> 01:44:39,854 Remnant of yore 1306 01:44:39,854 --> 01:44:43,354 The peasants these medicine times 1307 01:44:43,354 --> 01:44:47,034 Stroud and hide them and wait for the fight 1308 01:44:47,034 --> 01:44:50,574 The loneliest fight to save her 1309 01:44:50,574 --> 01:44:54,294 She lost the blood in the icy meanders 1310 01:44:54,294 --> 01:44:57,854 The long wishes her forgotten mother 1311 01:44:57,854 --> 01:45:00,854 She escaped the mad creatures 1312 01:45:00,854 --> 01:45:05,474 Over the seas they have sailed 1313 01:45:05,474 --> 01:45:09,354 To finally find the island of heaven 1314 01:45:09,354 --> 01:45:11,354 They will slain up as the gods 1315 01:45:11,354 --> 01:45:16,354 Cargol away, spread out the rocks that will sword along their way 1316 01:45:31,354 --> 01:45:35,354 Under the redress of the horizon 1317 01:45:35,354 --> 01:45:38,354 Fails the crew for its expedition 1318 01:45:38,354 --> 01:45:42,414 Of the long-league and barren coast 1319 01:45:42,414 --> 01:45:46,154 When it was just a ghost 1320 01:45:46,154 --> 01:45:48,034 The flame of seven guns 1321 01:45:48,034 --> 01:45:49,554 Fandered 1322 01:45:49,554 --> 01:45:53,454 And the brigands ascent from the bottom 1323 01:45:53,454 --> 01:45:55,154 Punished into 1324 01:45:55,154 --> 01:45:57,094 Through the turned circles 1325 01:45:57,094 --> 01:46:00,774 Of the god of elaboration 1326 01:46:00,774 --> 01:46:02,694 Over the seas 1327 01:46:02,694 --> 01:46:04,554 They have sailed 1328 01:46:04,554 --> 01:46:06,354 To finally find 1329 01:46:06,354 --> 01:46:10,454 The island of fear, they will slay opposite gods 1330 01:46:10,454 --> 01:46:12,194 Conquer the waves, break up the rise 1331 01:46:12,194 --> 01:46:15,534 Will fall along their way 1332 01:46:36,354 --> 01:47:03,574 I get up on a fateful day 1333 01:47:03,574 --> 01:47:07,174 Its mouth threatens to annihilate 1334 01:47:07,174 --> 01:47:11,074 When all we are dead, whose enchanted thread 1335 01:47:11,074 --> 01:47:14,974 Slaps into the beast and pierces it to the end 1336 01:47:14,974 --> 01:47:18,574 Lost in the pit of the slashed ground 1337 01:47:18,574 --> 01:47:22,274 The mirror is singing, living in sound 1338 01:47:22,274 --> 01:47:25,774 And made it cheerfully run on the door 1339 01:47:25,774 --> 01:47:29,774 They live from the light of the wind and the wind 1340 01:47:29,774 --> 01:47:37,134 Over the seas, they have sailed To finalize the anvil 1341 01:47:37,134 --> 01:47:47,274 They will slay against the gods 1342 01:47:47,274 --> 01:47:53,414 Over the seas, they have sailed To finalize the anvil 1343 01:47:53,414 --> 01:47:54,794 They will slay against the gods 1344 01:47:54,794 --> 01:47:55,794 Counter the waves, break off the wards 1345 01:47:55,794 --> 01:47:58,914 That could fall along their way 1346 01:47:59,774 --> 01:48:14,134 That was the Marrow's Chant by Heartlight, French symphonic metal band Purple Pilled and brought to the open music ecosystem by Scardust. 1347 01:48:14,134 --> 01:48:23,794 yeah holy cow that was that was a track uh man i love her vocal range uh like she's got 1348 01:48:23,794 --> 01:48:29,314 i've heard some of her other other tracks and you know she's got the lows she's got the high 1349 01:48:29,314 --> 01:48:36,154 this is incredible um and that guitar wow yeah you know that's so low with something else i felt 1350 01:48:36,154 --> 01:48:43,494 the heat from over here you know yeah um but uh you know they they have that very um evanescent 1351 01:48:43,494 --> 01:48:51,854 sort of feel, you know, um, but, but harder, you know? Yes. Yeah. I love it. I love their sound. 1352 01:48:52,054 --> 01:48:56,294 You know, we try to, we try to get them onto the South by worldwide. Uh, but unfortunately they're 1353 01:48:56,294 --> 01:49:02,654 playing a show, um, in, in Lyon on, uh, on the 14th. So if anyone's in France, you should definitely 1354 01:49:02,654 --> 01:49:11,214 go check them out and then, and then get back on the stream. Right. Great band. All right. Um, 1355 01:49:11,214 --> 01:49:18,374 so but and uh you know we've covered a lot is there anything you feel uh we didn't talk about 1356 01:49:18,374 --> 01:49:25,174 which you want to plug no i mean i think we talked about everything in under the sun um this is um 1357 01:49:25,174 --> 01:49:29,794 thanks thanks so much for having me on this has been so much fun um you know i just love kind of 1358 01:49:29,794 --> 01:49:36,374 hanging out and listening to music and just shooting the shit you know yeah for sure um 1359 01:49:36,374 --> 01:49:49,034 This is great. So folks, make sure you check out the South by Worldwide Festival that Bartender, Shadrach, so many others are involved in and organizing. 1360 01:49:49,034 --> 01:50:04,554 It promises to be an absolute banger. Of course, small plug for my talk on Friday, the 13th of March at 2 p.m. Eastern, 1 p.m. Central, 1 p.m. local time. 1361 01:50:04,554 --> 01:50:09,174 but there will be several other amazing things happening 1362 01:50:09,174 --> 01:50:11,594 in those four days you said, right? 1363 01:50:12,094 --> 01:50:13,374 That's right, Thursday through Sunday. 1364 01:50:13,374 --> 01:50:14,074 Four days of Friday. 1365 01:50:14,354 --> 01:50:16,834 Yeah, I mean truly just hats off to you 1366 01:50:16,834 --> 01:50:22,614 for taking something so massive on short notice 1367 01:50:22,614 --> 01:50:26,574 and it looks like you're going to nail the landing. 1368 01:50:27,434 --> 01:50:28,254 I sure hope so. 1369 01:50:28,354 --> 01:50:30,894 I mean we had about a month to put this thing together 1370 01:50:30,894 --> 01:50:33,254 and that's not a lot of time. 1371 01:50:33,254 --> 01:50:39,654 I mean, we were talking, you know, we were trying to figure out if we had enough speakers at the start of this. 1372 01:50:40,154 --> 01:50:53,274 So it's been put together like in Noster fashion, you know, by the seat of our pants with as much, you know, with all our heart and to create something beautiful. 1373 01:50:53,794 --> 01:50:59,174 So I hope everybody appreciates it and loves it and has, you know, such an amazing weekend with it. 1374 01:51:00,214 --> 01:51:01,634 Absolutely. I don't see why not. 1375 01:51:01,634 --> 01:51:03,034 All right. 1376 01:51:03,774 --> 01:51:05,514 Appreciate you taking the time. 1377 01:51:06,504 --> 01:51:08,204 Tender, this is great. 1378 01:51:08,664 --> 01:51:10,484 Loved all the stories about the bands 1379 01:51:10,484 --> 01:51:12,504 and thank you for all the work you do 1380 01:51:12,504 --> 01:51:14,504 to make, to bring, you know, 1381 01:51:14,564 --> 01:51:16,084 just to move the culture forward. 1382 01:51:16,264 --> 01:51:17,544 That's how we do it, right? 1383 01:51:17,604 --> 01:51:19,104 We move this culture forward, 1384 01:51:19,184 --> 01:51:21,784 break away from the legacy world 1385 01:51:21,784 --> 01:51:25,144 and we build a beautiful parallel city. 1386 01:51:25,624 --> 01:51:26,204 That's right. 1387 01:51:26,304 --> 01:51:27,284 Build the world you want to have. 1388 01:51:27,704 --> 01:51:28,704 Build the world you want to live in. 1389 01:51:30,004 --> 01:51:32,144 And live while you're alive. 1390 01:51:32,524 --> 01:51:33,244 That's right. 1391 01:51:35,504 --> 01:51:35,904 Awesome. 1392 01:51:35,904 --> 01:51:40,124 All right. Thank you, Bartender. And thank you to our live stream audience for listening 1393 01:51:40,124 --> 01:51:46,364 and for the zaps. If you're listening to the recorded episode and this session added a little 1394 01:51:46,364 --> 01:51:52,204 flavor to your day, if it helped you reset, relax, or discover a new favorite track, 1395 01:51:52,684 --> 01:51:59,144 please consider returning the value. Check your podcast app right now. If you're streaming sats, 1396 01:51:59,524 --> 01:52:05,564 you just helped an independent musician get paid. If you want to keep this table open for next week, 1397 01:52:05,564 --> 01:52:09,724 hit that boost button, or subscribe on Fountain. 1398 01:52:10,604 --> 01:52:13,444 You are the producers of this vibe. 1399 01:52:14,284 --> 01:52:29,688 Speaking of producers the final word usually goes to the executive producer of the episode That the top booster from the previous week If you want to claim the spot next Sunday and have your message read over the air you know what to do 1400 01:52:30,148 --> 01:52:31,648 Check the leaderboard. 1401 01:52:32,108 --> 01:52:39,428 While we don't have an executive producer this week, I do want to give the final word to Storm and Bliss, 1402 01:52:39,428 --> 01:52:41,988 who boosted into last week's episode 1403 01:52:41,988 --> 01:52:46,848 with a short, simple, and I dare say profound comment. 1404 01:52:47,348 --> 01:52:51,048 She said, love is the answer. 1405 01:52:51,608 --> 01:52:54,928 Heart emoji, heart emoji, heart emoji. 1406 01:52:55,348 --> 01:52:57,188 Thank you, Storm and Bliss. 1407 01:52:57,188 --> 01:52:59,768 Love is indeed the answer. 1408 01:53:00,528 --> 01:53:02,388 Until next Sunday, folks, 1409 01:53:02,688 --> 01:53:04,948 it's happy Monday through Saturday. 1410 01:53:05,568 --> 01:53:06,028 Farewell. 1411 01:53:09,428 --> 01:53:39,408 Thank you.