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The noise of the week is behind us.

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The feed is off.

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The record is spinning.

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It's time to stop interviewing and start listening.

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Welcome to Sunday Brunch.

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Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, you hungry hunters of harmonious hyperlinks.

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Welcome to the 10th serving of Sunday Brunch.

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and today is, you guessed it, Sunday.

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It is the 15th of March and very much brunch time on the East Coast of the United States,

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which can only mean one thing, your favorite music on the lightning-laced airwaves.

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Now, settle in. This is not your regular podcast.

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I don't have any questions prepared, I don't have a sermon,

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and I won't be asking our guest

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about their multi-sig,

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geographically distributed cold storage protocol.

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There's just a table,

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some coffee and a record player.

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The guest is the DJ here.

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And because there is no corporate sponsor in the booth,

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you are the ones keeping the coffee pot full.

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This is a Valley for Valley production.

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I don't run ads.

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The show runs on Vibe.

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If you enjoyed the selection today,

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you can throw some sats in the digital tip jar

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by boosting on Fountain or zapping on Noster.

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Here is the house rule.

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When the needle drops, the sats follow.

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90% of everything you stream during the song

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goes directly to the artist.

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You are tipping the band.

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When the music fades and we're just chatting,

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you're buying around for the guest and me.

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And my guest today is a dear friend

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and involved in several projects in Bitcoin culture.

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Aza is here and she's brought her own playlist with her.

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We're going to spin some tracks.

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We're going to talk about whatever topics bubble up

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in the silences between the music

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and give everyone listening a chance

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to enter this decompression chamber after a long week.

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So, find a sunny spot on the patio.

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Aza, welcome to Sunday Brunch.

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Wow, thank you very much, Avi.

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I'm super happy to be here.

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You know, it's already from our private chats.

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It's one of my favorite, actually, shows.

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I don't, unfortunately, join it very often live, but I do love its recordings.

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And yeah, it's a really decompressing chamber.

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It's relaxing.

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So I'm super happy to be here. Thank you. And hi, everyone.

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No, that's, that's great. You know, it's Yeah, there is a different vibe listening on the live stream versus the recording. I think one of the advantages with the recording, and this will come to the live stream as well. But with the actual recorded episode, there are the boost and stream splits that are baked directly into it.

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and I know I was talking to the guys at Fountain

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and they're going to bring that to the live stream as well

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where if you're zapping on the live stream during a song

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90% ends up going to the musician as well

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I'd love to incorporate that

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right now I have to either do it manually

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or find some way around it for the live stream

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but yeah, the recorded episode has all of that baked in

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which is great

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So, Aza, you've been keeping yourself very busy.

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I know you do some work with Bitcoin Film Fest.

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You've launched Amplified Tunes,

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which it took me a while.

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I saw the account engaging with me on Nostra for a while,

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and I was like, what is this Amplified Tunes?

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And I'd forgotten that we'd had our side channel chat

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where you were, I'd forgotten the name.

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I knew you were releasing something,

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and I'd forgotten it was called Amplified Tunes.

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And it took me a while to put two and two together on Nostra.

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And then once I did, of course, I immediately followed Amplified Tunes.

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So talk about that.

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That's your latest project, correct?

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Yeah, that's the latest project.

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So for anyone who doesn't know me or maybe knows me as Shalale,

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actually, which means waterfall.

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So yeah, it really fits me.

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It resonates with me.

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I do run and co-run a few different projects.

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Amplified Tunes is the latest.

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There's also like creativity, education for kids, a little bit of fashion line with design, Bitcoin Film Fest, translations, quite a lot.

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So I like to call myself like creative mind or creative soul with a sharp mind.

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Plus waterfall really resonates.

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So lots of energy.

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So yeah, Amplified Tunes is something that probably comes from my heart directly.

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I do have a lot of, or a few at least, musicians in my private circle.

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thanks to RSS and Nostra and Bitcoin Lightning, are helping independent music industry.

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And it's actually super empowering to see these things happening.

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So I just decided to do something slightly different.

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I mean, not like maybe different, but a little bit extended and expanded.

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So for now, the website is not yet publicly communicated, but it's pretty complex with, of course, Nostre integration, Lightning payments.

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Also like pretty complex search so people can easily find music by different type or location of an artist.

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I also wanted to do it mostly, to be honest, for European scene, because you guys in the US, you are kind of like luckier, so to say, with Nashville.

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And there are so many talented musicians in Europe.

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And Aaron, for example, in the UK, is doing a tremendous work.

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But not all of them in Europe are lucky enough.

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So I just want to emphasize a little bit more here.

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So it's like a hub.

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I can just simply put is a hub that it's consisting of a website, so complex website.

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Then there is, of course, an Oster account, quite many different types of editorials.

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And then something that I'm pretty proud of, a magazine, a physical magazine with interviews, playlists,

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some opinions, reviews, games, and so on and so forth.

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So I think something that's been missing in a space, it will be also available online for anyone who wants to read.

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So yeah, a hub, or I like to call it a node, connecting independent musicians, bands and solo with music fans.

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And hopefully it will also help us to bring more music buffs into the space because I don't want us to end up with, you know, more musicians.

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And there are so many talented people in the space already.

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So with more music than actually the recipients.

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So I want more and more people to actually explore this space.

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And I know that people from my private, let's say, experiences, I know they are really angry with Spotify and Amazon and Apple and whatever they are using.

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But still, they think there are no alternatives, right?

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So, yeah.

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So is the website live?

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How's it the Amplified Tunes?

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Yeah, the website is live.

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I just didn't publicly show it yet to anyone.

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I'm not hiding anything it's just like

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it's pretty complex and I'm doing everything alone

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so I prefer to test a couple of things

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already listed different playlists

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throw it into the space and then

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get the hate from people

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or too many comments but I think

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overall it should work pretty well on mobile

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too critical or too angry

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just point out that something

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doesn't work as I said not an excuse

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by myself I shared it though

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with the musicians that are listed in there

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most of them I'm in touch

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with them and yeah the feedback so far

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was very positive

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some of them they also have pretty cool ideas

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for the future how to even expand the project

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so yeah let's see how it goes

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weekend later at the link as i said and the magazine as well soon yeah absolutely the reason

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i asked is i want to include it in the show notes so anyone looking for amplified tunes

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if you look at the if you check out the episode on fountain or on on your on whatever podcasting

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app you use you'll see it in the show notes the link to that i'll link the nostre profile

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of for amplified tunes and then any other links that come up in our conversation but but yeah i

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I mean, look, another node in the culture.

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That's certainly really welcome, Azaz.

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I'm glad you're doing this.

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And the physical magazine, any thoughts on when the first edition will be out?

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I mean, the first edition, I already have the physical copy.

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So it's not the first magazine I produced ever in my life.

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So I know what can go wrong.

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That's why I always have test print.

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And I'm also very close to be a perfectionist when it comes to design.

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So I already see some small stuff that I want to correct.

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So I already have the physical copies.

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They are, in theory, ready for people to enjoy.

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But I want to make it even more perfect.

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So probably around two weeks from now on, I will start the distribution.

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So, for example, if somebody is interested in any way, it will be available online always.

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still I need to decide whether we are just collecting donations as zaps and then because

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officially announce it as me as a creator or founder of it I'm just doing it for the entire

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ecosystem right so if somebody so I need to decide whether I'm just collecting zaps and then trying

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similarly to your show redistribute these zaps with a mentioned artist featured artist or maybe

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I will somehow put some kind of wall or I don't know how to name it, some kind of like a layer that you need to, I don't know, zap like a specific amount, like very low, let's say symbolic.

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And then it enables you to read it online.

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I still need to think about it.

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Of course, the physical copy, because it's a really nice quality, you know, print.

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I will offer it as a gift to the musicians that agreed to work with me for the first issue.

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and then the rest probably I will try to sell as well.

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So let's see how it goes.

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But yeah, a long story short, sorry for circling around.

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It should be available in a few weeks.

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But if somebody wants to even have screenshots

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or whatever, pictures or just see the raw files,

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I'm also fine with sharing it.

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I'm not, again, hiding anything.

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It's just I want it to be better or as good as it could be.

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it's pretty cool

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personally not as a creator of it

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I am also happy that such a thing can exist

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because I think it was a missing puzzle

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and I'm not building this project

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as many other projects

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I think they have similar approach

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I'm not building it to compete with anyone

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and that's the beauty in this entire community

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But just to add one extra layer, something that might be resonating with some people more than some existing space or we can all collaborate.

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And I think this is the most exciting thing that we can just make it stronger and bigger and yeah, all together.

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Well, that's great.

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Looking forward to it.

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I saw some of the mock-ups that you sent me.

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Looks beautiful.

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And well, congratulations on the launch.

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this is a big deal

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Aza, so let's jump into

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your first song

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I think we'll play it in the order

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in which the screen is showing it

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the playlist is showing it on the live stream

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for our podcast listeners

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you won't be able to see the live screen

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the screen that I'm sharing

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but it is the fountain playlist

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that Aza created

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for this episode

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so the first one you have here

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is called

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The Sky is Falling, and it's by a band called RAD,

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which is an acronym for Robots are Dicks, spelled D-I-X.

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Just talk a little bit.

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Correction. I think this is a title.

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That's a problem sometimes with Fountain, how people are uploading day tracks.

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Actually, the project behind this song is Zemar Red.

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so yeah it a pretty interesting independent music producer slash artist I would say so yeah but the title is correct the sky is falling and the art so the and you said Zemar Red Or I don know how to pronounce it because the E after Z

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so the second letter has some special character.

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So I would just pronounce Zemar Red.

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It's available, his entire profile is available as well

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on Amplified Tunes with more information,

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different links and different sample tracks.

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So if somebody is interested, if this song triggered,

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your listeners, they will be able to explore more about the artists as well.

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Excellent. This is The Sky is Falling by Zemaret.

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It's a stage in deserted times where buildings crumbling.

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I hope it's lost.

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Who's responsible?

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Seems unreasonable.

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Maybe there's time incurable.

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There is no doubt.

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The sky is falling.

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Follow you down.

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The sky is falling.

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We've known it by now

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When a poor man can't sit

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With a rich man at his table to eat

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Maybe the sky

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Falling isn't such a bad thing

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Who's the senator? Maybe the congressman.

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Tell us special words, make it better again.

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All my life I've served, relentlessly for truth.

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The money that you save will never save you.

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And the sky is falling.

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Follow it down, the sky is falling.

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We've known it by now

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When a poor man can't sit

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With a rich man at his table to eat

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Maybe a sky

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Falling isn't such a bad thing

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Pour Your mercy rain down on me

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Come and still my heart

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Still my whole heart

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Pour Your mercy rain down on me

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Come and still my heart

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Till my whole heart

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guitar solo

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Come and fill my heart up, fill my whole heart.

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Oh, now mercy rain down on me.

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Come and fill my heart up, fill my whole heart.

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That was The Sky is Falling by Zemaret.

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That was a really nice song, Azza.

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And I almost had a, there are parts of it that had a meditative mantra-like quality to it.

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Yeah, I have the same, like, this is one of the songs I like to listen to in the evenings, especially.

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And it triggers me emotionally very much, like the title in itself, right?

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The sky is falling, but also the lyrics.

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So for me, for example, my relationship with music is very specific.

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I know, I think you were mentioning somewhere that you are not the type who can enjoy the music, like the melody, the tunes, and then the lyrics.

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I have actually both.

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So my crazy brain is actually able to comprehend or get very deep into both, sometimes even very specific instruments and so on.

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So for this specific song, when I think not only about the title, but the lyrics, so something very smart, the guy says,

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the money that you save will never save you.

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Or will the day come when the poor guy can sit at the rich man's table and eats together?

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It's feeding like our reality so much.

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So I feel very emotional when I listen to it because it makes me kind of like melancholic

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and sad.

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But on the other hand, I feel so hopeful because I know we have better form of money.

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We have almost alternative reality.

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And, you know, we are trying to help each other and kind of like act completely different

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to all these senators and whatever the guy is also mentioning in the lyrics.

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So, yeah, it's a beautiful song for me.

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And it's for the listeners who are new to Zemaret.

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It's a different song than his general style.

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So he's, which is very funny, in a humorous way,

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he is describing his genre as Allah house

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because he's playing with Afro, Latin and Arabic elements.

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So Allah and then house.

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So it's like the electronic music overall, house and electronic.

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And this one doesn't really fit that, you know, his overall, let's say, vibes.

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But I really love it.

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I really love the song.

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The guy is also active on Nostra, having his active account.

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I assume he might be a Bitcoiner as well.

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We were not in touch yet.

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So I hope if somebody likes the song, if you zap it, then maybe we can make the guy more active on Nostra because he will see that, yeah, what he is producing, it's not just wasted.

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Oh, yeah.

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I had no idea this, uh, Zemaret was on Noster.

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So we'll certainly link their profile, um, to in, in the show notes as well.

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If I can add something, it's all like to show off, but it might be useful, um, for your

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audience.

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So this is one of the things when I started building the website for Amplify Tunes, I

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just thought from my private perspective, what is missing in a current ecosystem?

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So for example, this, okay.

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if I find a cool song on Fountain,

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can I connect directly with this artist

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on any Nostra client?

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So I'm listing only there

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the music bands and solo artists

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that do have active Nostra accounts.

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Of course, it's not like I refuse

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completely amazing music

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that is, you know, on RSS

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or Wave Lake or Fountain.

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I include these in specific playlists.

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But if you go to APK Lite,

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where you can explore more

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about a band or an artist,

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then you will always find the link to their nostril profile.

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So you see who they are.

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You can chat, send them in a DM, learn a little bit more about them.

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And I think this is beautiful because we will,

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that's also the beauty of the value for value ecosystem, right?

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You can be closer to the creator, to the artist.

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So yeah, just a side note.

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No, and I think it also, on the other side of that, Aza,

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is it allows for, I guess, a more authentic connection,

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even from the artist as well,

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or at least it promotes more authentic artists, I think.

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Because, you know, one of the side effects of fiat

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is celebrity and influencer culture,

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not just in Bitcoin, right?

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I mean, there is certainly celebrity

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and influencer culture within Bitcoin

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as well as we were talking about right before we started recording.

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We don't have to go there.

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But I think in fiat culture in general,

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celebrities and influencers have assumed this mythic status.

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I mean, it's completely self-created mythic status

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where they feel like there should be a class divide, honestly,

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for lack of a better term, between them and their audience.

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and I don't think that leads to a particularly authentic

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I guess art that comes out of it

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and with something like this

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where you listen to something on a medium like Fountain

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and the artist is on Noster

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you can connect with them

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chances are if they're on Noster

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they will likely want to talk to you

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want to understand their audience

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build that deeper relationship

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I think it's really cool

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absolutely and i think even more than like first of all i think that it's putting a lot of like

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this fiat or the let's say legacy music um industry it's also putting way too much pressure

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unhealthy pressure on musicians because they need to act as celebrities like it's sometimes more

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important how they look with where they hang out with whom they hang up with and so on and so forth

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them the music that's something that is really in their heart right they started in the first place

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in most cases because they want to produce and share it with the world and their work music

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not necessarily who they are as a person and how famous and how good they look and look at the past

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examples Whitney Houston Amy Winehouse Michael Jackson people who got actually really destroyed

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as human beings because of this celebrity kind of image

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and how you have to act or not.

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And this is very shallow.

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So I really love that we have now a chance

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to rebuild this industry

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or it's actually getting rebuilt right now

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in the last couple of years.

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And this is beautiful.

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We can have closer relationship,

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shorter, less middleman.

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Yeah, better experience

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because it's pretty cool to, I think,

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for me at least,

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to be able to get to know an artist better as a person,

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not as a celebrity, to understand their music.

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And also having a chance to maybe chat with them is even better, right?

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So I can explore their creation in a way deeper way.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And, you know, we have, like, if you think of the people

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people who have sort of in this Valley for Value Noster podcasting 2.0 world who have kind of

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come to prominence, at least their work has. You have guys like Joe Martin, you have Longhi,

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I mean, several others, right? And they're on Noster, they chat with people, they build that

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connection. I would add, I mean, our common and dear friend, Noah Grumman, of course, their music

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is not on value for value because they have a label

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and, you know, complicated situation there with the label.

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But even Noah builds that, you know, she's doing,

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she does her vocal trainings on Zapstream.

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There's a 24-hour live stream that happens.

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And, you know, every now and then she does an actual Zap.stream performance,

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which also goes to YouTube as well.

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And she builds that connection with her fans, right?

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It's really cool.

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Oh, yeah.

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And even better.

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she brought another great band

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to the Value for Value ecosystem

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Heartlight

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so I met also

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one of their members

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in person

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because I was lucky enough

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to join NOAS in Denmark

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last December

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for this huge performance

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legendary orchestra

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so but yeah

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Scardust is super cool

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that they are at least on Noster

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they do all this live stream

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and I think

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it's also showing a direction

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for even signed musicians

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right you don't need to like do everything at once but it doesn't mean you have to avoid or

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you are forced to avoid this another realm so to say that you cannot touch at all this value

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value for value music ecosystem so i think skardas is a great great example personally

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i'm kind of like praying that they will be able to bring their music as well

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you are in touch with them anyway so i'm almost sure that it's going to happen just i don't know

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wet so i'll tease something here uh if and if lahav is listening he's going to kill me so i'm

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i'm going to keep it very very um um obscure but there is a very decent chance also that on you know

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i play music on my friday plub chain radio episodes as well there is a very good chance

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that i will be playing a noah gruman song on friday which is about five days away i think

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it's either the 19th or 20th of March

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I don't have my calendar in front of me

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but on that episode I will be playing

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a Noah Grumman song

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not a Scottos song but a Noah Grumman song

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on Plebshane Radio

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and it will be on Fountain

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oh wow okay then

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is it like this upcoming Friday?

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yeah yeah

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that's five or six days away

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that will be huge

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and you know the entire

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band is amazing because

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every single player there the drummer the guitar is like I love it This is such a good band and it fits their star because it complex like progressive rock is so complex so textured but Noah itself

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is also like five singers, six

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singers at once, what she can do with

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her voice is incredible, so it's also

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nice that maybe you will

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let others to explore her

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talent, her vocal talent

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as a vocalist

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of a band, but not necessarily

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directly the band yet so it's even better cool yes for sure uh as a why don't we move into

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your next song and this one i believe um is i'm looking for the playlist which i seem to have

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lost out there it is it's it's a helene song and it's called unify uh i had ivy loomy on

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on my show a couple of weeks back.

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And she, actually, I thought she would play five of her own songs,

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which is what I automatically assume

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when someone who's a musician comes on.

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They're going to promote their music.

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But she was incredibly generous with her time

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and only played three of her songs.

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And she played two others from,

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and one of them was a Helene song.

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So that was my first interaction with Helene.

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Why don't we play this first, Azan,

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and then you can talk about Haleen and what this song means to you.

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Sure, let's go.

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This is Unify by Haleen.

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Thank you.

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think

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oh

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try

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the

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sign

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like

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the seasons

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blazing

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in the sky

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I'm

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a

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Thank you.

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Kind of seasons blazing

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Bebating the sky

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And how the spirits

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Unify

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A symphony of peace

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Chase your wildest dreams

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He fades to skies

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He unifies

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Unified

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High the seasons

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The reason

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Be made in the sky

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Our spirit

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Unified

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The symphony of peace

500
00:32:11,132 --> 00:32:16,472
Chase your wildest dreams

501
00:32:16,472 --> 00:32:20,452
We fade the sky

502
00:32:20,452 --> 00:32:25,132
We unify

503
00:32:25,132 --> 00:32:34,492
Unified

504
00:32:34,492 --> 00:32:47,132
Unified

505
00:32:55,132 --> 00:33:11,992
that was unify by helene and as i you know i uh one of the things i do is i try not to listen to

506
00:33:11,992 --> 00:33:19,412
the songs uh ahead of the show just so that i can listen to them with fresh ears live and i did not

507
00:33:19,412 --> 00:33:25,172
listened to this one and i've got to say i am very pleasantly surprised i mean i i like the

508
00:33:25,172 --> 00:33:32,052
i love the helene song that uh ivy played um a couple of weeks back i think it was um greatness

509
00:33:32,052 --> 00:33:38,392
and i was expecting something along those lines sort of that calm meditative mantra type

510
00:33:38,392 --> 00:33:44,852
thing from like we had in the previous song i was pleasantly surprised to hear some electric

511
00:33:44,852 --> 00:33:52,292
guitars in there. There was a little, a few small solos. Really cool. That's quite the range that

512
00:33:52,292 --> 00:34:01,272
Helene has. Yes, I think I was expecting such a reaction from you. I'm not saying we have exactly

513
00:34:01,272 --> 00:34:07,712
the same music taste, but probably similar. So I, okay, of course, I do listen to everything from

514
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:14,332
classical music through trance and then finishing with rock and progressive metal.

515
00:34:14,772 --> 00:34:20,852
But I like always this greedy, rocky edge in music.

516
00:34:21,012 --> 00:34:27,032
So here I try to somehow pick up the songs that will always have something with guitars

517
00:34:27,032 --> 00:34:27,592
with bass.

518
00:34:28,072 --> 00:34:34,132
And honestly, the song is different because it was recorded a little bit earlier.

519
00:34:34,132 --> 00:34:36,392
actually I got it as a gift from the

520
00:34:36,392 --> 00:34:38,572
band before they published it on Fountain

521
00:34:38,572 --> 00:34:40,732
and I encouraged them to add it as well

522
00:34:40,732 --> 00:34:42,172
to

523
00:34:42,172 --> 00:34:44,492
the Value for Value ecosystem

524
00:34:44,492 --> 00:34:46,752
I don't remember now exactly with whom they recorded

525
00:34:46,752 --> 00:34:48,292
it, it wasn't some kind of collaboration

526
00:34:48,292 --> 00:34:50,732
so yeah, exactly, it is slightly

527
00:34:50,732 --> 00:34:52,772
different than most of the tracks available

528
00:34:52,772 --> 00:34:54,412
but I love it

529
00:34:54,412 --> 00:34:56,492
I love it because of the same reasons as you said

530
00:34:56,492 --> 00:34:58,972
yeah, different textures

531
00:34:58,972 --> 00:35:00,012
and all these guitars

532
00:35:00,012 --> 00:35:02,772
I think it's a very talented band

533
00:35:02,772 --> 00:35:16,532
And for anyone who is not familiar with them, they are one of the few artists who are producing the music in the old, let's say, how to say, like musical tuning, the frequencies.

534
00:35:17,132 --> 00:35:18,632
So 432.

535
00:35:19,192 --> 00:35:32,192
So if anyone is into the rabbit hole of Rockefeller Foundation, what's changed in 1953 and why and how actually music in theory is something great can impact us in a negative way.

536
00:35:32,192 --> 00:35:34,232
Halin is one of the bands

537
00:35:34,232 --> 00:35:35,552
not many of them

538
00:35:35,552 --> 00:35:38,772
that is producing the music

539
00:35:38,772 --> 00:35:39,912
in the previous

540
00:35:39,912 --> 00:35:42,232
let's say hertz frequency

541
00:35:42,232 --> 00:35:43,912
which is healthy and it's soothing

542
00:35:43,912 --> 00:35:46,252
and maybe a fun fact

543
00:35:46,252 --> 00:35:47,332
I can share

544
00:35:47,332 --> 00:35:50,132
how the name Halin came

545
00:35:50,132 --> 00:35:52,332
so it's Hans and Caitlin

546
00:35:52,332 --> 00:35:54,612
and mixed together it creates

547
00:35:54,612 --> 00:35:55,072
Halin

548
00:35:55,072 --> 00:35:57,012
I recently interviewed the couple

549
00:35:57,012 --> 00:35:59,572
very very nice people

550
00:35:59,572 --> 00:36:00,912
and beautiful songs

551
00:36:00,912 --> 00:36:23,532
Yeah, for sure. That's a great story there, Aza. And on that 434 hoods, I haven't gone down that rabbit hole. I'm aware of it at a very surface level. But it seems to be something that's getting more and more popular with musicians in the Noster and broader open music ecosystem.

552
00:36:23,532 --> 00:36:32,352
There's a guy, Matt Finlay, and he's, I think, and he makes sort of, his music has a harder edge to it, right?

553
00:36:32,752 --> 00:36:37,432
You know, and I mean that in a good way, like rock and metal type.

554
00:36:38,412 --> 00:36:45,892
And he also uses the same frequency, probably worth having a, do you know anything about the topic?

555
00:36:45,892 --> 00:36:48,092
on that rabbit hole.

556
00:36:48,112 --> 00:36:52,712
I don't want to go too much into, so to say, conspiracy theories,

557
00:36:53,032 --> 00:36:57,952
but there are even some studies, not from the experts, of course,

558
00:36:58,052 --> 00:37:02,572
but there is a trace and some facts that you can find online,

559
00:37:02,732 --> 00:37:06,752
even in Uncle Google, proving that actually this new frequency

560
00:37:06,752 --> 00:37:09,372
is less healthy, it can create anxiety,

561
00:37:10,072 --> 00:37:14,932
it can impact your consciousness, it can cause anxiety,

562
00:37:14,932 --> 00:37:18,152
It can impact your consciousness or like this connection.

563
00:37:19,872 --> 00:37:21,712
Many pretty unhealthy things.

564
00:37:21,872 --> 00:37:25,512
I mean, at the end of the day, when you think about it, it makes sense because we are water.

565
00:37:26,112 --> 00:37:27,592
We are built from water.

566
00:37:27,792 --> 00:37:33,472
So frequency goes kind of through your body and your brain is also like electrical waves, right?

567
00:37:33,492 --> 00:37:43,472
So if you combine different electrical signal to your brain and then consider that your body is created from mostly water, it can have bad or good impact.

568
00:37:43,472 --> 00:37:48,752
So I don't trust Rockefellers and none of what they touched in this world.

569
00:37:50,012 --> 00:37:56,752
So since it was their claim, their kind of idea to change the frequency, I think Rothschilds were also involved.

570
00:37:56,872 --> 00:37:58,212
Another great family, of course.

571
00:37:58,352 --> 00:38:00,672
We can be thankful for many things.

572
00:38:01,172 --> 00:38:05,792
So, yeah, I don't want to talk too much because we could spend the entire hour or so.

573
00:38:05,792 --> 00:38:09,592
There are information available online

574
00:38:09,592 --> 00:38:11,332
In the internet

575
00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:13,192
To dig deeper

576
00:38:13,192 --> 00:38:16,612
What changed, why

577
00:38:16,612 --> 00:38:19,472
And how in theory it can make you feel better or worse

578
00:38:19,472 --> 00:38:20,832
It's great as you notice

579
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:22,512
That there are more and more musicians

580
00:38:22,512 --> 00:38:25,012
Who are trying to tune their instruments

581
00:38:25,012 --> 00:38:26,252
To this old

582
00:38:26,252 --> 00:38:28,912
Musical

583
00:38:28,912 --> 00:38:29,932
Let's say frequency

584
00:38:29,932 --> 00:38:33,332
And I hope more and more will come

585
00:38:33,332 --> 00:38:33,792
So yeah

586
00:38:33,792 --> 00:38:36,112
Matt Finlay is, by the way, a sneak peek.

587
00:38:36,592 --> 00:38:39,992
Not only, because this is also what I learned, I'm also in touch with him,

588
00:38:40,292 --> 00:38:44,112
not only having this edgy, very punkish, rocky style,

589
00:38:44,232 --> 00:38:46,252
talking about complicated topics,

590
00:38:46,252 --> 00:38:50,552
but also pretty soothing and more relaxing type of music.

591
00:38:50,652 --> 00:38:54,892
I think he will release it because it's some of his old songs.

592
00:38:55,252 --> 00:38:56,892
He's going to release it pretty soon.

593
00:38:57,092 --> 00:38:59,572
So yeah, it's also interesting, the range, you know?

594
00:38:59,572 --> 00:39:05,772
like when you just think about the journey of a musician or a band and then you can see their

595
00:39:05,772 --> 00:39:11,692
progress or the change in the messaging or the style the vibrations i think frankie peroni is a

596
00:39:11,692 --> 00:39:16,892
great example another great example a guy who when you listen to just one album each of the song will

597
00:39:16,892 --> 00:39:22,632
feel so different so it's it's just showing the talent so matt as a side note is having

598
00:39:22,632 --> 00:39:29,432
wider range of of music uh when it comes to melodies lyrics and everything than what we can

599
00:39:29,432 --> 00:39:37,092
currently find for example on fountain i love that matt finley i know you listen so looking forward

600
00:39:37,092 --> 00:39:45,912
yeah greetings matt yes and looking forward to your range um we'll get we'll get some of that

601
00:39:45,912 --> 00:39:54,872
uh played on the show as well uh as i we have a comment in uh in the live chat as you were

602
00:39:54,872 --> 00:40:01,072
talking about the frequency and i suspect it's ironic uh it's meant to be positive if i have to

603
00:40:01,072 --> 00:40:11,412
read between the lines but it says bring out the tinfoil yes no no um i'm not that crazy

604
00:40:11,412 --> 00:40:20,932
but yeah i guess it was ironic yes uh so here i want to go back to something you said in the

605
00:40:20,932 --> 00:40:26,992
beginning uh which i find uh speaking of irony uh i find it interesting you said oh you guys are so

606
00:40:26,992 --> 00:40:33,252
lucky in the u.s you have this and that nashville uh maybe it's a question of the grass being greener

607
00:40:33,252 --> 00:40:37,932
on the other side as a because when i look at europe and what's happening with the bitcoin

608
00:40:37,932 --> 00:40:43,352
scene there i'm like oh my god those guys are so lucky it's the cypherpunk vibe there's the

609
00:40:43,352 --> 00:40:47,992
cyphermunk house in london there's all the stuff that's happening in prague in czech republic

610
00:40:47,992 --> 00:40:50,112
there's what's happening in Warsaw

611
00:40:50,112 --> 00:40:52,292
you know Riga all of these places

612
00:40:52,292 --> 00:40:54,112
Madeira Europe is where

613
00:40:54,112 --> 00:40:55,932
the real innovation and the

614
00:40:55,932 --> 00:40:57,952
people with the

615
00:40:57,952 --> 00:40:59,972
cypherpunk ethos is actually

616
00:40:59,972 --> 00:41:02,072
living and the US is getting completely

617
00:41:02,072 --> 00:41:03,432
corporatized and captured

618
00:41:03,432 --> 00:41:04,992
by

619
00:41:04,992 --> 00:41:07,292
you know Wall Street

620
00:41:07,292 --> 00:41:09,472
yeah I don't disagree

621
00:41:09,472 --> 00:41:12,072
it's just what I specifically meant

622
00:41:12,072 --> 00:41:14,112
is this you know music scene

623
00:41:14,112 --> 00:41:15,712
kind of area

624
00:41:15,712 --> 00:41:17,972
for Nashville I think Nashville has also

625
00:41:17,972 --> 00:41:21,772
So if I'm not mistaken, some roots, like jazz roots,

626
00:41:21,972 --> 00:41:23,112
and it's nothing new.

627
00:41:23,212 --> 00:41:26,332
It's not only created for the value for value music ecosystem, right?

628
00:41:26,852 --> 00:41:28,992
So you are just lucky with this specific thing.

629
00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:30,812
I agree with everything else you've said.

630
00:41:30,812 --> 00:41:34,872
And it's not like, I don't like comparing things in a sense,

631
00:41:34,972 --> 00:41:45,928
what better than what but I can definitely say also being traveling you know different parts of the world for Bitcoin events bigger and smaller that actually Europe is quite cultural

632
00:41:46,148 --> 00:41:46,388
let's say,

633
00:41:46,448 --> 00:41:47,588
or focus on culture.

634
00:41:48,848 --> 00:41:49,748
With, yeah,

635
00:41:49,788 --> 00:41:50,568
independent films,

636
00:41:50,668 --> 00:41:52,228
what we do with Bitcoin Film Fest,

637
00:41:52,348 --> 00:41:53,108
music, again,

638
00:41:53,288 --> 00:41:55,088
Aaron or Cybermonk,

639
00:41:55,228 --> 00:41:57,068
what Cypher is doing in London,

640
00:41:57,728 --> 00:42:00,988
many, many different spots,

641
00:42:01,248 --> 00:42:02,728
also pretty easy to travel.

642
00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:04,408
So it's great.

643
00:42:04,948 --> 00:42:08,128
also Asia is developing in a different way.

644
00:42:08,368 --> 00:42:10,808
Central America is growing in a different way.

645
00:42:10,928 --> 00:42:12,588
Africa, incredible things.

646
00:42:12,948 --> 00:42:16,648
US is more like, yeah, free market, trading,

647
00:42:17,568 --> 00:42:19,008
tech, amazing tech, by the way,

648
00:42:19,108 --> 00:42:22,848
but maybe less stuff about philosophy and culture,

649
00:42:23,068 --> 00:42:24,308
but it doesn't mean it's bad.

650
00:42:24,308 --> 00:42:27,608
So, you know, maybe we need all of these realms,

651
00:42:27,808 --> 00:42:28,948
all of these spectrums.

652
00:42:29,788 --> 00:42:30,588
Well, and let's not,

653
00:42:30,768 --> 00:42:33,228
since we're doing the geographical tour,

654
00:42:33,228 --> 00:42:38,508
let's not forget what's happening in Asuncion and Buenos Aires, right?

655
00:42:38,628 --> 00:42:43,928
And other parts of Latin America, really strong Bitcoin and Nostra culture

656
00:42:43,928 --> 00:42:46,888
that's blooming and blossoming there.

657
00:42:47,348 --> 00:42:53,188
And then you were at the, what is the name of the Goa BitPlep Summit, right?

658
00:42:53,268 --> 00:42:55,168
There's a movement happening in India as well.

659
00:42:55,708 --> 00:42:57,548
Yeah, one of the, to be honest.

660
00:42:57,688 --> 00:43:00,848
And so last year I did seven or eight events, like bigger ones.

661
00:43:00,848 --> 00:43:03,208
So conferences, I don't like the word, but let's.

662
00:43:03,228 --> 00:43:08,948
put it this way, conferences, seven or eight. So quite many in different parts of the world,

663
00:43:09,328 --> 00:43:14,868
excluding meetups. And Goa was one of them. And to be honest, comparing to all the other

664
00:43:14,868 --> 00:43:21,428
experiences, one of the most profound, like the quality, like we are very often mentioning

665
00:43:21,428 --> 00:43:27,988
somewhere, okay, noise and signal. No, what I mean that it was signal there, it's real. Like you

666
00:43:27,988 --> 00:43:34,068
felt it, you could learn, you could connect with people. It was nothing to show off. Also,

667
00:43:34,128 --> 00:43:38,768
the entire structure of the event, there were like a few days of workshops, hands-on things,

668
00:43:38,968 --> 00:43:42,448
you know, direct contact, and quite many people, like 100 something or 200 something,

669
00:43:43,028 --> 00:43:47,808
they organized a second edition, I think, in six months after the first pretty small event.

670
00:43:48,428 --> 00:43:53,168
And then you had, even if there was a stage, I was also honored to present a couple of things. It

671
00:43:53,168 --> 00:44:01,468
It was not to show off who I am, why I'm great, which is unfortunately happening at other conferences, but more like to share the message and inspire you.

672
00:44:01,468 --> 00:44:07,468
The topics that got presented, the ideas, I mean, you were also there online presenting your part.

673
00:44:08,168 --> 00:44:08,968
It was incredible.

674
00:44:09,148 --> 00:44:14,328
And the team behind it, every single guest, you know, how humble they were.

675
00:44:14,408 --> 00:44:22,528
There was also Mike from El Salvador sharing his experiences from the circular economy in El Salvador.

676
00:44:22,528 --> 00:44:23,768
It was incredible.

677
00:44:23,988 --> 00:44:26,708
And I know they are planning another event.

678
00:44:27,088 --> 00:44:32,588
So, yeah, unfortunately, I know probably not will be able to join because, as you already know, this is not a secret.

679
00:44:32,708 --> 00:44:35,688
Many people know I can say you have right now two guests, not one.

680
00:44:35,768 --> 00:44:36,128
I'm pregnant.

681
00:44:36,468 --> 00:44:41,668
So I will probably have to cut some of my troubles in 2026.

682
00:44:42,148 --> 00:44:49,888
But anyone, guys, if you want to be in a beautiful, clean, super delicious, culturally very interesting place,

683
00:44:49,888 --> 00:44:53,628
if you think India is too risky, go to Goa

684
00:44:53,628 --> 00:44:55,428
because this is, as I was also told,

685
00:44:55,568 --> 00:44:57,228
the easiest way to explore India.

686
00:44:57,228 --> 00:44:58,528
It is incredible.

687
00:44:59,008 --> 00:45:02,388
The story behind the island as well

688
00:45:02,388 --> 00:45:04,328
and super great event.

689
00:45:04,468 --> 00:45:06,148
What the community there is doing

690
00:45:06,148 --> 00:45:07,688
and they are also organizing it with,

691
00:45:08,008 --> 00:45:09,488
I don't remember if from,

692
00:45:09,608 --> 00:45:11,528
do you remember, Avi, from where Bichala is?

693
00:45:11,628 --> 00:45:13,508
Is it from Bangladesh or?

694
00:45:14,168 --> 00:45:15,348
No, no, Bangalore.

695
00:45:15,728 --> 00:45:16,688
Bangalore, yes, sorry.

696
00:45:17,008 --> 00:45:18,828
So they are co-organizing.

697
00:45:18,828 --> 00:45:28,148
So the guys from Goa who are also focused on culture and education and like local impact, they are collaborating with a very decent project from Bangalore.

698
00:45:28,768 --> 00:45:32,948
So it's more techie, cool people, a lot of focus on Nostra.

699
00:45:33,068 --> 00:45:35,388
I was also running their workshops, Nostra workshops.

700
00:45:35,708 --> 00:45:35,928
Great.

701
00:45:36,088 --> 00:45:43,628
So if you don't have any plans yet, but you would love to explore that side of the world, really check BitPlep Summit.

702
00:45:44,028 --> 00:45:48,648
Probably sooner or later they will announce when the event is happening this year.

703
00:45:48,648 --> 00:45:50,588
So yeah, worth going, definitely.

704
00:45:51,668 --> 00:45:59,088
You know, there are actually several really well-kept secrets in the world.

705
00:46:00,288 --> 00:46:03,468
And most people don't realize this.

706
00:46:03,628 --> 00:46:06,508
And I'm going to say what I'm going to say and people are going to laugh.

707
00:46:07,648 --> 00:46:11,148
But it's true because I experience it every time I go.

708
00:46:11,568 --> 00:46:13,808
And people know I have Indian heritage.

709
00:46:14,268 --> 00:46:17,488
Every time I go back to visit family, an extended family there,

710
00:46:17,488 --> 00:46:22,128
it's some of the urban centers that have expanded

711
00:46:22,128 --> 00:46:23,108
I don't know about Bangalore

712
00:46:23,108 --> 00:46:25,688
but there's cities like Hyderabad and others

713
00:46:25,688 --> 00:46:27,308
obviously Goa as well

714
00:46:27,308 --> 00:46:31,968
I don't know how much you saw when you were there

715
00:46:31,968 --> 00:46:34,228
but especially in cities like Hyderabad

716
00:46:34,228 --> 00:46:36,988
which have expanded outside of their old towns

717
00:46:36,988 --> 00:46:40,768
into more planned modern cities

718
00:46:40,768 --> 00:46:43,968
it's incredible the level of development

719
00:46:43,968 --> 00:46:47,088
and infrastructure and everything else that you expect

720
00:46:47,088 --> 00:46:51,848
So all the stereotypes about pollution, about cows on the road and all of that third world stuff.

721
00:46:52,028 --> 00:46:54,928
None of the I mean, it's like hyper modern.

722
00:46:55,368 --> 00:47:05,288
And in many ways, it makes the every time I return back to New York from from Hyderabad, I feel like I'm returning from a first world country to a third world country.

723
00:47:05,548 --> 00:47:06,488
That's the level.

724
00:47:06,948 --> 00:47:13,668
Yeah, there are there are quite many stand up comedians like race, let's say, in the US from, I don't know, Mexico or somewhere.

725
00:47:13,668 --> 00:47:15,428
and they always make the same jokes,

726
00:47:15,568 --> 00:47:17,628
especially when they are living somewhere in New York.

727
00:47:17,708 --> 00:47:18,588
Like, I love the city,

728
00:47:18,648 --> 00:47:21,128
but I would never like to be living there, you know?

729
00:47:21,168 --> 00:47:22,148
I like to visit it.

730
00:47:22,568 --> 00:47:25,088
So full respect to New Yorkers, don't be angry.

731
00:47:25,428 --> 00:47:28,748
But yeah, full respect that you were able to survive there.

732
00:47:29,108 --> 00:47:31,008
It's not pleasant.

733
00:47:31,128 --> 00:47:32,508
So you are not the only one saying it.

734
00:47:32,748 --> 00:47:34,928
But yeah, if you come back from some place,

735
00:47:34,928 --> 00:47:38,028
in theory, people can label as third world.

736
00:47:38,188 --> 00:47:40,908
Actually, when you come back, you feel like, come on,

737
00:47:41,008 --> 00:47:42,748
you have no idea what you're talking about.

738
00:47:42,748 --> 00:47:45,288
because I feel unsafe here and it's more crazy.

739
00:47:45,468 --> 00:47:46,208
So I fully agree.

740
00:47:46,368 --> 00:47:49,108
I mean, Goa is a very specific part of India.

741
00:47:49,248 --> 00:47:50,288
I hadn't been anywhere else.

742
00:47:50,348 --> 00:47:51,528
Okay, I spent two days in Mumbai.

743
00:47:51,968 --> 00:47:55,268
So I can definitely confirm what you said.

744
00:47:55,288 --> 00:47:56,568
It's modern, clean and stuff.

745
00:47:56,628 --> 00:47:58,988
It's just different vibe because we are talking about,

746
00:47:59,488 --> 00:48:00,668
and this is a different scale.

747
00:48:00,668 --> 00:48:05,068
Even if, let's say, New York is crowded or Istanbul,

748
00:48:05,308 --> 00:48:09,208
personally, I cannot also stay too long in that city.

749
00:48:09,208 --> 00:48:13,768
So it's like different types of concrete jungles, you know.

750
00:48:13,868 --> 00:48:19,768
So in India, we are talking about like really enormous amount of human crowd.

751
00:48:19,928 --> 00:48:22,748
And this is a different human crowd than in Tokyo, for example.

752
00:48:23,208 --> 00:48:27,428
So from this side, even many people can feel unsafe and overwhelmed, right?

753
00:48:27,988 --> 00:48:35,328
But unfortunately, yeah, we should all skip, let's say, or throw all the labels to the rubbish.

754
00:48:35,328 --> 00:48:41,448
And especially if you were in the Noster, let's say, Bitcoin ecosystem, think for yourself.

755
00:48:41,788 --> 00:48:45,748
Don't just grab and buy whatever narratives are thrown your way.

756
00:48:46,488 --> 00:49:00,228
If you don't want to explore and experience, don't do, but don't repeat the same blind kind of opinions because it's harmful and it's also harming you, your own brain, because you just close yourself to the world around.

757
00:49:01,248 --> 00:49:01,428
Yeah.

758
00:49:02,428 --> 00:49:03,368
Yeah, for sure.

759
00:49:03,368 --> 00:49:07,408
So, Azza, let's move on to your next song.

760
00:49:08,148 --> 00:49:11,948
This one is by My Friend Jimmy and it's called Telling Lies.

761
00:49:12,448 --> 00:49:13,548
Why did you pick this one?

762
00:49:14,728 --> 00:49:15,768
Why? Okay.

763
00:49:16,828 --> 00:49:19,808
It's an interesting band overall, My Friend Jimmy.

764
00:49:21,108 --> 00:49:24,228
This song, for example, so I also love jazz.

765
00:49:24,888 --> 00:49:28,768
And there is not that much of a jazz music on Fountain, unfortunately.

766
00:49:29,008 --> 00:49:32,308
And I'm excluding even well-done, let's say, AI-produced jazz.

767
00:49:32,308 --> 00:49:36,608
I think Marina Osak is pretty good, but there are not that many artists yet.

768
00:49:36,808 --> 00:49:46,988
So please, if anyone is from the jazz, let's say, bring your tracks on Fountain or RSS feed, we will find it.

769
00:49:47,268 --> 00:49:48,788
So the value for our music ecosystem.

770
00:49:49,168 --> 00:49:56,248
So I chose this one because it's slightly maybe a little bit touching or reminding me of some jazzy vibes.

771
00:49:56,328 --> 00:49:57,148
This is the first thing.

772
00:49:57,388 --> 00:49:59,928
Second, I like the title again.

773
00:49:59,928 --> 00:50:09,348
so it can kind of be you know relationship or self-talk some introspective process right so

774
00:50:09,348 --> 00:50:15,868
lies is okay deception then you have regret self-doubt but all these things which are negative

775
00:50:15,868 --> 00:50:21,148
uh can lead to a change to something better right so no matter if you suffer right now if you suffer

776
00:50:21,148 --> 00:50:26,008
actually you can change things because you have a push you have a trigger so looking at the

777
00:50:26,008 --> 00:50:33,908
craziness of the world around, I try to pick up a song that feels warm, maybe melancholic.

778
00:50:34,468 --> 00:50:39,488
And it's in theory talking about something bad, but this bad thing can lead to something

779
00:50:39,488 --> 00:50:40,868
positive eventually.

780
00:50:42,708 --> 00:50:45,988
This is Telling Lies by my friend Jimmy.

781
00:50:56,008 --> 00:51:25,988
guitar solo

782
00:51:26,008 --> 00:51:30,248
As you occupy my mind

783
00:51:30,248 --> 00:51:33,608
As you watch the world go by

784
00:51:56,008 --> 00:52:01,148
In this world it gets so complicated

785
00:52:01,148 --> 00:52:04,328
Suffocated by the time

786
00:52:04,328 --> 00:52:06,908
One map with no direction

787
00:52:06,908 --> 00:52:08,448
There's always chasing

788
00:52:08,448 --> 00:52:10,968
There's something you can't find

789
00:52:10,968 --> 00:52:13,888
And it's hard to breathe

790
00:52:13,888 --> 00:52:16,388
And the walls are fading in

791
00:52:16,388 --> 00:52:19,628
Where it takes two hours to see

792
00:52:19,628 --> 00:52:22,028
That the girl I love was known

793
00:52:22,028 --> 00:52:25,708
Good telling lies

794
00:52:25,708 --> 00:52:28,808
I can see it in your eyes

795
00:52:28,808 --> 00:52:31,508
When you look through mine

796
00:52:31,508 --> 00:52:37,368
You take hold of my desires

797
00:52:37,368 --> 00:52:40,508
You argue by my mind

798
00:52:40,508 --> 00:52:43,848
As you watch the world go by

799
00:52:43,848 --> 00:52:44,608
Yeah

800
00:52:52,028 --> 00:53:11,768
No good at telling lies, you call me by surprise

801
00:53:11,768 --> 00:53:14,588
Might take a minute but I think I'm gonna be alright

802
00:53:14,588 --> 00:53:17,328
It's not the word you say that you're delivering

803
00:53:17,328 --> 00:53:20,168
And since the moment that it knows it was over

804
00:53:20,168 --> 00:53:23,008
For we would to fade, it's all a big illusion

805
00:53:23,008 --> 00:53:25,928
Just a shadow on the cape for the fuel of my confusion

806
00:53:25,928 --> 00:53:28,868
Should've known it's just a game, I guess that's my mistake

807
00:53:28,868 --> 00:53:32,308
At the end of the day, you should've watched the way you're talking to me

808
00:53:50,168 --> 00:54:06,168
That was Telling Lies by my friend Jimmy.

809
00:54:06,488 --> 00:54:08,208
And Azza, I really liked that.

810
00:54:08,308 --> 00:54:10,468
It had a bit of a reggae element to it.

811
00:54:10,488 --> 00:54:11,268
I know you were saying jazz

812
00:54:11,268 --> 00:54:14,228
and I could certainly hear some influences there,

813
00:54:14,308 --> 00:54:16,588
but also the rhythm and the beat

814
00:54:16,588 --> 00:54:19,128
had a reggae element to it.

815
00:54:19,128 --> 00:54:30,848
And it just reminded me, it took me to, I don't know, one of those, you know, turquoise water tropical islands like Curaçao or Bonaire.

816
00:54:30,848 --> 00:54:39,268
Just walking through those beach shacks with a drink that has a citrus fruit and an umbrella in it.

817
00:54:39,968 --> 00:54:43,308
And yeah, just soaking in the sun, that kind of vibe.

818
00:54:43,308 --> 00:54:48,368
a far cry from my current situation, by the way,

819
00:54:48,528 --> 00:54:51,228
up in the mountains here in upstate New York

820
00:54:51,228 --> 00:54:54,208
where it's below zero Celsius and there's snow outside.

821
00:54:54,228 --> 00:54:55,208
Oh, still? Wow, really?

822
00:54:56,508 --> 00:54:58,208
Well, you know, over here, March...

823
00:54:58,828 --> 00:55:02,068
See, the funny thing with living in the Arctic tundra,

824
00:55:02,168 --> 00:55:06,188
the way I do, is when you're in late January, early February,

825
00:55:06,288 --> 00:55:07,668
you're like, oh, I can't wait for March.

826
00:55:07,788 --> 00:55:08,688
March is the month.

827
00:55:09,108 --> 00:55:11,888
But in many ways, March is actually the hardest month

828
00:55:11,888 --> 00:55:17,828
Because you do get the days, you get the one or two days where it goes to 15, maybe even 20 degrees Celsius.

829
00:55:18,468 --> 00:55:20,668
And then the next day it drops to below zero.

830
00:55:20,868 --> 00:55:23,908
So it gives you the hope and then snatches it away.

831
00:55:24,708 --> 00:55:26,568
Yeah, I think it's a common fact.

832
00:55:26,848 --> 00:55:30,308
In Turkish and in Polish, there are both sayings.

833
00:55:30,388 --> 00:55:33,248
They sound slightly different, but they explain kind of same stuff.

834
00:55:33,264 --> 00:55:35,224
that March is like a thick soup.

835
00:55:35,404 --> 00:55:36,444
You put all the ingredients,

836
00:55:36,564 --> 00:55:37,204
you mix them together,

837
00:55:37,204 --> 00:55:37,804
and when you eat,

838
00:55:37,844 --> 00:55:39,444
you never know if you're going to grab.

839
00:55:39,624 --> 00:55:40,904
So yeah, true.

840
00:55:41,364 --> 00:55:43,424
But wow, I mean, I don't want to,

841
00:55:43,664 --> 00:55:45,204
you know, this year, for example,

842
00:55:45,364 --> 00:55:47,824
it was in a long, long, long time for me.

843
00:55:48,624 --> 00:55:51,704
Such a like few months even,

844
00:55:51,864 --> 00:55:53,164
I can say, okay, with small breaks,

845
00:55:53,224 --> 00:55:55,424
but few months that I spent the winter in Poland

846
00:55:55,424 --> 00:55:57,444
and it went even minus 20.

847
00:55:57,624 --> 00:55:58,464
And it was awful.

848
00:55:58,664 --> 00:56:01,544
Like still now it's plus 17, 16,

849
00:56:01,704 --> 00:56:02,764
very pleasant and sunny,

850
00:56:02,764 --> 00:56:04,964
but still I have this kind of like overshiver

851
00:56:04,964 --> 00:56:06,784
when I think about something close to zero.

852
00:56:07,104 --> 00:56:09,284
So yeah, I'm sorry for you.

853
00:56:09,304 --> 00:56:10,804
But on the other hand, let's be hopeful.

854
00:56:11,044 --> 00:56:11,964
It's just the beginning

855
00:56:11,964 --> 00:56:14,444
and you know that it's going to be better and better.

856
00:56:14,784 --> 00:56:18,464
So if not, you can play Telling Lies by my friend Jeannie

857
00:56:18,464 --> 00:56:22,564
more often to go back to Curaçao or maybe Goa

858
00:56:22,564 --> 00:56:25,664
because it also would fit or any other place.

859
00:56:25,664 --> 00:56:26,064
It's true.

860
00:56:27,664 --> 00:56:31,324
That is a very Goan vibe as well.

861
00:56:31,324 --> 00:56:35,924
the beach and that sort of Portuguese vibe.

862
00:56:35,924 --> 00:56:38,024
But you see, that's the beauty of music for me.

863
00:56:38,304 --> 00:56:42,144
Like, again, my personal relationship with music,

864
00:56:42,344 --> 00:56:45,164
as I mentioned before, I listen to many different,

865
00:56:45,264 --> 00:56:47,464
like a huge range of genres.

866
00:56:47,984 --> 00:56:51,264
And either I pick up a song because I am in a specific mood

867
00:56:51,264 --> 00:56:54,564
or I pick up a track because I want to change my mood.

868
00:56:54,864 --> 00:56:55,704
And that's the beauty.

869
00:56:56,504 --> 00:57:00,684
Music can just transfer you to some memories from the past

870
00:57:00,684 --> 00:57:02,884
or maybe through its tunes and vibrations,

871
00:57:02,884 --> 00:57:05,804
it can put you in a completely different reality with your mind.

872
00:57:06,244 --> 00:57:08,544
So it can motivate, it can soothe,

873
00:57:08,724 --> 00:57:10,664
it can do so many different things.

874
00:57:10,764 --> 00:57:11,804
So thank God for music.

875
00:57:11,924 --> 00:57:13,204
So thank you all the musicians,

876
00:57:13,504 --> 00:57:15,284
especially in the Value for Value ecosystem.

877
00:57:16,524 --> 00:57:16,924
Oh, yeah.

878
00:57:17,304 --> 00:57:18,624
Thank God for music indeed.

879
00:57:19,524 --> 00:57:24,264
So let's go back to the music scene in Europe.

880
00:57:24,264 --> 00:57:28,024
You'd mentioned Aaron of Essex.

881
00:57:28,144 --> 00:57:30,604
He's a guest host occasionally on the show.

882
00:57:30,684 --> 00:57:32,164
he might do one in a couple of weeks.

883
00:57:32,324 --> 00:57:34,084
Another guest host,

884
00:57:34,264 --> 00:57:35,684
just working through the details there.

885
00:57:36,344 --> 00:57:38,224
And he's done a phenomenal job

886
00:57:38,224 --> 00:57:40,064
with the new music, Nudge Unit.

887
00:57:41,484 --> 00:57:43,164
I mean, Essex now, right?

888
00:57:43,804 --> 00:57:48,064
South of London is turning into the,

889
00:57:48,784 --> 00:57:51,824
sort of the epicenter for at least European

890
00:57:51,824 --> 00:57:54,664
value for value music.

891
00:57:54,664 --> 00:57:56,244
Yeah, and there is a news about bringing

892
00:57:56,244 --> 00:57:57,784
the entire radio station.

893
00:57:58,284 --> 00:57:59,824
This is another, like, huge.

894
00:58:00,684 --> 00:58:09,164
Yeah, you know, I saw the note, Azar, and it might be a good, if you know more about it, it's probably worth talking about.

895
00:58:09,364 --> 00:58:14,184
I glanced at the note and I said, I'm going to go back and read it in more detail.

896
00:58:14,784 --> 00:58:17,804
I only know as much as I've seen through the note.

897
00:58:17,944 --> 00:58:24,124
So I didn't, like, I've been speaking to, I've been talking to Aaron recently, but not about this specific topic.

898
00:58:24,124 --> 00:58:29,864
So it was also a big surprise, but like a huge step for all of us, you know, having a radio station.

899
00:58:30,684 --> 00:58:38,984
I don't know. I would expect if they are already on Nostra that they will also probably connect to RSS and maybe they will be live streaming and connect like lightning payments.

900
00:58:39,104 --> 00:58:42,864
This is how I can imagine it. I don't know more, so I don't want to spread like rumors.

901
00:58:43,544 --> 00:58:58,384
But already having a, let's say, legacy industry, you know, ecosystem, something like a radio station being on Nostra itself and recognizing it and talking to Aaron is a very good sign.

902
00:58:58,384 --> 00:58:59,324
and it's big.

903
00:59:02,464 --> 00:59:05,264
I guess you wanted to ask something else

904
00:59:05,264 --> 00:59:07,624
or you wanted to, because sorry, I just interrupted.

905
00:59:07,624 --> 00:59:10,004
No, no, that was a good tangent

906
00:59:10,004 --> 00:59:14,584
because that was big news if it actually does materialize

907
00:59:14,584 --> 00:59:17,904
and it probably has, I just didn't read the note

908
00:59:17,904 --> 00:59:21,664
in great detail, that radio station being connected

909
00:59:21,664 --> 00:59:23,424
to, a legacy radio station, as you said,

910
00:59:23,624 --> 00:59:24,824
as being connected to Nostra.

911
00:59:24,824 --> 00:59:35,304
So there is a music scene that's burgeoning and growing over there, just south of London in Essex.

912
00:59:36,244 --> 00:59:38,724
But what about other places?

913
00:59:38,904 --> 00:59:41,144
What's happening in places like Warsaw?

914
00:59:43,104 --> 00:59:47,544
I would think Eastern Europe has that gritty vibe to it, right?

915
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:52,264
That almost dissident thing that's just, I mean, it's in the bones.

916
00:59:52,704 --> 00:59:54,244
It's in the DNA of the people.

917
00:59:54,244 --> 00:59:56,284
it's being dissidents against communism

918
00:59:56,284 --> 00:59:57,484
against oppression

919
00:59:57,484 --> 01:00:00,004
and I would think there would be

920
01:00:00,004 --> 01:00:01,284
a thriving

921
01:00:01,284 --> 01:00:03,204
music scene there

922
01:00:03,204 --> 01:00:06,184
Honestly, I cannot speak for Warsaw

923
01:00:06,184 --> 01:00:08,124
or this part of the world too much

924
01:00:08,124 --> 01:00:10,524
because I don't live here permanently

925
01:00:10,524 --> 01:00:11,304
I'm just coming

926
01:00:11,304 --> 01:00:13,564
sometimes for a month

927
01:00:13,564 --> 01:00:16,244
this year was specific, so it was a few months in a row

928
01:00:16,244 --> 01:00:17,124
so hard to say

929
01:00:17,124 --> 01:00:19,544
Also when I go for concerts

930
01:00:19,544 --> 01:00:21,204
it's mostly like this small intimate

931
01:00:21,204 --> 01:00:23,244
for example jazz music

932
01:00:23,244 --> 01:00:25,624
so I have no idea

933
01:00:25,624 --> 01:00:27,724
definitely you are right with the eastern

934
01:00:27,724 --> 01:00:29,444
let's say post-communist blogs

935
01:00:29,444 --> 01:00:32,184
the songs from 80s and 90s

936
01:00:32,184 --> 01:00:33,644
they were very rebellious

937
01:00:33,644 --> 01:00:35,744
super deep lyrics

938
01:00:35,744 --> 01:00:38,844
yeah trying to escape the censorship

939
01:00:38,844 --> 01:00:41,164
so it's pity like for English speakers

940
01:00:41,164 --> 01:00:43,444
you know you will never fully

941
01:00:43,444 --> 01:00:44,624
even translating it

942
01:00:44,624 --> 01:00:45,844
you will never fully get the meaning

943
01:00:45,844 --> 01:00:47,384
because it was touching on the reality

944
01:00:47,384 --> 01:00:50,104
and as I said in a very artistic creative way

945
01:00:50,104 --> 01:00:51,264
they were escaping the censorship

946
01:00:51,264 --> 01:00:52,384
talking about politics

947
01:00:52,384 --> 01:00:54,464
and engaging with people and motivating them.

948
01:00:54,524 --> 01:00:55,244
So it was incredible.

949
01:00:55,884 --> 01:00:58,044
Now, from what I sometimes just hear,

950
01:00:58,144 --> 01:01:00,564
I don't know, being exposed in a shop or something

951
01:01:00,564 --> 01:01:03,244
to the music played in the radio is just crap,

952
01:01:03,424 --> 01:01:04,724
like everywhere else.

953
01:01:05,324 --> 01:01:06,164
Same stuff.

954
01:01:06,164 --> 01:01:10,304
I think AI is same, like as good as the music

955
01:01:10,304 --> 01:01:13,744
that you can hear in most of the radio stations.

956
01:01:14,004 --> 01:01:14,844
So hard to say.

957
01:01:14,984 --> 01:01:16,344
I can say on the other hand,

958
01:01:16,404 --> 01:01:19,824
which you are somehow familiar with less than more,

959
01:01:19,824 --> 01:01:26,104
But yes, the Balkans, they have also different relationship with music because for them, it's part of their culture.

960
01:01:26,324 --> 01:01:31,164
So they love music the same as they love drinking and eating and being with people.

961
01:01:31,384 --> 01:01:32,044
They love music.

962
01:01:32,344 --> 01:01:38,564
In Poland, I don't really think that this is so important in the culture.

963
01:01:38,984 --> 01:01:45,724
Music is playing some specific roles during some activities, but it's not like it's, you know, running in the blood of Poles, I could say.

964
01:01:45,804 --> 01:01:46,484
But maybe I'm wrong.

965
01:01:46,484 --> 01:01:48,784
Like, yeah, I'm not an expert here.

966
01:01:48,964 --> 01:01:49,364
So, yeah.

967
01:01:49,824 --> 01:01:52,744
But I have no idea what's happening directly here.

968
01:01:52,884 --> 01:01:57,184
I do have a couple of talented musicians and bands from Europe,

969
01:01:57,304 --> 01:01:58,884
for example, Amplified Tunes.

970
01:01:59,544 --> 01:02:00,864
And as I said, I want to help them.

971
01:02:01,284 --> 01:02:02,524
And it's not only from the UK.

972
01:02:03,424 --> 01:02:07,764
So I want to help them to get exposed to, you know,

973
01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:09,304
reach bigger audiences.

974
01:02:09,924 --> 01:02:11,244
So Halin is a good example.

975
01:02:11,364 --> 01:02:12,344
They are based in Europe.

976
01:02:12,724 --> 01:02:16,264
Heartlight, which Noah actually brought on Nostra as well.

977
01:02:16,744 --> 01:02:17,884
They are based in Europe.

978
01:02:17,884 --> 01:02:24,624
yeah there are there are really really talented people um uk is very unique and specific in the

979
01:02:24,624 --> 01:02:30,544
sense there are a couple of projects who are trying to help music grow and thrive um yeah

980
01:02:30,544 --> 01:02:37,704
let's see how it goes but i hope we will have more and more of this experiences that there will be

981
01:02:37,704 --> 01:02:46,864
live shows like what the guys um are building now uh with the sx worldwide the live streaming is

982
01:02:46,864 --> 01:02:51,744
incredible they are also bringing european artists so yeah let's see how it develops let's

983
01:02:51,744 --> 01:02:56,744
see how it grows but i don't have that much yet visibility into like specific locations

984
01:02:56,744 --> 01:03:04,924
more than for example what aran is doing yeah and just quick shout out since you mentioned it

985
01:03:04,924 --> 01:03:13,764
as to the uh south by worldwide sx worldwide uh show that's been ongoing since thursday

986
01:03:13,764 --> 01:03:16,304
of this week. That's the 12th of March.

987
01:03:16,464 --> 01:03:18,304
And I believe

988
01:03:18,304 --> 01:03:20,204
it's going to continue into next week. I don't know

989
01:03:20,204 --> 01:03:22,264
if the music programming will continue into next

990
01:03:22,264 --> 01:03:23,504
week, but there's going to be talks.

991
01:03:23,744 --> 01:03:25,164
It's not like today is the last day?

992
01:03:26,664 --> 01:03:27,884
Maybe for the music,

993
01:03:28,184 --> 01:03:29,864
Azar, but at least the

994
01:03:29,864 --> 01:03:32,164
complete dedication to music. I think then they

995
01:03:32,164 --> 01:03:33,924
switch over to

996
01:03:33,924 --> 01:03:36,064
conversations on

997
01:03:36,064 --> 01:03:37,804
Freedom Tech and different aspects.

998
01:03:38,064 --> 01:03:39,904
Mostly Nostra focused, obviously, but

999
01:03:39,904 --> 01:03:42,024
really cool stuff

1000
01:03:42,024 --> 01:03:49,624
that they're doing so big shout out to to shadrach to bartender who was on sunday brunch last week

1001
01:03:49,624 --> 01:03:56,064
uh with hash power music and and others who've just put in so much into the show

1002
01:03:56,064 --> 01:04:03,384
yeah to all the musicians as well who who agreed you know who put the trust in it and their effort

1003
01:04:03,384 --> 01:04:07,484
as well because some of them they just shared their files or they were recording and streaming

1004
01:04:07,484 --> 01:04:11,764
live from a different location incredible like and this is the first time ever so i'm yeah

1005
01:04:11,764 --> 01:04:14,244
I'm really pumped

1006
01:04:14,244 --> 01:04:15,364
or as I wrote them,

1007
01:04:15,484 --> 01:04:16,364
pumpered even

1008
01:04:16,364 --> 01:04:18,924
to experience the four days right now

1009
01:04:18,924 --> 01:04:20,064
and looking forward

1010
01:04:20,064 --> 01:04:21,484
because that's the beauty, right?

1011
01:04:21,524 --> 01:04:22,824
We are not competing with each other.

1012
01:04:22,924 --> 01:04:23,524
If they did,

1013
01:04:23,604 --> 01:04:24,904
this is a signal to others

1014
01:04:24,904 --> 01:04:26,184
that others can also do

1015
01:04:26,184 --> 01:04:27,884
and maybe do it on smaller scale,

1016
01:04:28,024 --> 01:04:28,584
bigger scale,

1017
01:04:28,644 --> 01:04:29,644
but try, it worked.

1018
01:04:29,784 --> 01:04:31,124
Maybe you learn from experiences.

1019
01:04:31,344 --> 01:04:32,144
So it's just the beginning,

1020
01:04:32,244 --> 01:04:32,984
the first time ever,

1021
01:04:33,064 --> 01:04:33,724
it's just the beginning

1022
01:04:33,724 --> 01:04:34,564
and it's, yeah,

1023
01:04:34,684 --> 01:04:35,344
it was already,

1024
01:04:35,924 --> 01:04:37,744
it is already an incredible experience.

1025
01:04:37,884 --> 01:04:39,564
So today, at least for me,

1026
01:04:40,024 --> 01:04:41,444
it will be the last day

1027
01:04:41,444 --> 01:04:49,284
to tune in and later let's see how it goes which direction yeah all right so let's uh move to your

1028
01:04:49,284 --> 01:04:57,104
next song uh it's by a band called silver unit and has an interesting name it's called like a

1029
01:04:57,104 --> 01:05:07,124
eardrum as opposed to like an eardrum um what what so what is the how did you find this band

1030
01:05:07,124 --> 01:05:15,984
silver unit um so how did i find them uh so i did a very deep research on uh different like songs

1031
01:05:15,984 --> 01:05:22,484
starting from rock as a genre indie rock alternative rock pop rock whatever so this is

1032
01:05:22,484 --> 01:05:29,424
how i found them though they very often describe themselves as folk pop which for example this song

1033
01:05:29,424 --> 01:05:36,324
will prove is wrong the same as adding a not a n um and i discovered they are from germany

1034
01:05:36,324 --> 01:05:37,544
if I remember correctly.

1035
01:05:37,804 --> 01:05:41,264
They have a pretty decent amount of tracks,

1036
01:05:41,484 --> 01:05:42,644
very interesting ones.

1037
01:05:42,744 --> 01:05:45,364
But unfortunately, they are not active on Nostra.

1038
01:05:45,364 --> 01:05:48,204
So I thought if we will maybe play the song

1039
01:05:48,204 --> 01:05:49,704
and if it will trigger some people

1040
01:05:49,704 --> 01:05:51,384
and people will start replaying it

1041
01:05:51,384 --> 01:05:52,944
and they will see some traction on Thunton

1042
01:05:52,944 --> 01:05:56,464
and then maybe somehow they will think about

1043
01:05:56,464 --> 01:05:58,964
skipping Facebook or whatever they are using these days

1044
01:05:58,964 --> 01:06:00,844
and come to Nostra to the better place

1045
01:06:00,844 --> 01:06:03,064
and then connect with their fans as well.

1046
01:06:03,244 --> 01:06:05,404
So yeah, I found it because I was looking

1047
01:06:05,404 --> 01:06:10,764
for different rock, like songs from the rock genre.

1048
01:06:11,004 --> 01:06:15,244
And then I found them, even though they are not defined as rock in most of cases.

1049
01:06:15,404 --> 01:06:19,424
And then I discovered they are not on Noster yet, but their songs are on Fountain.

1050
01:06:19,664 --> 01:06:22,984
So I thought maybe if we play it, we can somehow bring them in.

1051
01:06:24,704 --> 01:06:30,884
Well, Sylvia Unit, if you're listening or the word somehow gets to you, come over to Noster.

1052
01:06:30,884 --> 01:06:35,784
This is Like A Airdrum by Sylvia Unit.

1053
01:07:00,884 --> 01:07:30,864
I'm out.

1054
01:07:30,884 --> 01:07:36,924
Pictures in an instant

1055
01:07:36,924 --> 01:07:46,124
Before we figure out what we have become

1056
01:07:46,124 --> 01:07:52,424
You want to see me wager

1057
01:07:52,424 --> 01:08:00,224
Tiny words of every inch

1058
01:08:00,224 --> 01:08:02,504
Truth and Force

1059
01:08:02,504 --> 01:08:16,924
Your power

1060
01:08:16,924 --> 01:08:19,044
My economy

1061
01:08:19,044 --> 01:08:21,044
They're loud

1062
01:08:21,044 --> 01:08:24,264
They're all themselves

1063
01:08:24,264 --> 01:08:29,164
Erase

1064
01:08:29,164 --> 01:08:30,964
That database

1065
01:08:30,964 --> 01:08:32,724
Next up

1066
01:08:32,724 --> 01:08:53,816
I need your help Shiver Like an eardrum Either failures and take comfort in them

1067
01:08:53,816 --> 01:09:00,676
Keep them at a distance

1068
01:09:00,676 --> 01:09:04,716
So they can dance

1069
01:09:04,716 --> 01:09:09,076
Draw your heart and fall

1070
01:09:34,716 --> 01:09:47,796
Pictures in an instant

1071
01:09:47,796 --> 01:09:57,016
Before we figure out what we have become

1072
01:09:57,016 --> 01:10:03,336
You want to see me waiting

1073
01:10:03,336 --> 01:10:07,896
Tiny walls on

1074
01:10:07,896 --> 01:10:13,316
Every intruding force

1075
01:10:13,316 --> 01:10:19,636
Shiver like an eardrum

1076
01:10:19,636 --> 01:10:23,396
Either failures

1077
01:10:23,396 --> 01:10:28,976
And take comfort in them

1078
01:10:28,976 --> 01:10:35,756
Keep them at a distance

1079
01:10:35,756 --> 01:10:40,076
So they can dance

1080
01:10:40,076 --> 01:10:44,656
Draw your heart out the north

1081
01:10:44,656 --> 01:11:01,236
That was Like a Eardrum by Silver Unit.

1082
01:11:01,236 --> 01:11:07,876
That was a really nice and smooth alternative rock song, I would say.

1083
01:11:07,876 --> 01:11:09,516
It doesn't feel like folk.

1084
01:11:09,516 --> 01:11:12,596
folk how do they describe it

1085
01:11:12,596 --> 01:11:14,656
folk something or folk pop

1086
01:11:14,656 --> 01:11:16,336
it felt more like

1087
01:11:16,336 --> 01:11:18,556
rock rocky right like the

1088
01:11:18,556 --> 01:11:20,696
crispy gritty very nice

1089
01:11:20,696 --> 01:11:21,016
vibe

1090
01:11:21,016 --> 01:11:22,936
yeah

1091
01:11:22,936 --> 01:11:26,096
so the unit that's a new discovery

1092
01:11:26,096 --> 01:11:28,496
I will check them out and if you like

1093
01:11:28,496 --> 01:11:28,856
that

1094
01:11:28,856 --> 01:11:32,596
folks who are listening do check

1095
01:11:32,596 --> 01:11:34,096
them out I believe they have

1096
01:11:34,096 --> 01:11:36,536
some songs up on

1097
01:11:36,536 --> 01:11:38,456
they're available

1098
01:11:38,456 --> 01:11:39,316
on Fountain.

1099
01:11:40,896 --> 01:11:42,576
Azale, go ahead.

1100
01:11:43,116 --> 01:11:44,656
No, I just said, yep.

1101
01:11:45,336 --> 01:11:45,816
That's it.

1102
01:11:47,596 --> 01:11:49,396
So you're obviously involved

1103
01:11:49,396 --> 01:11:51,336
in several other projects.

1104
01:11:52,236 --> 01:11:53,516
And recently there was,

1105
01:11:54,176 --> 01:11:55,716
you posted something about,

1106
01:11:56,136 --> 01:11:57,496
is it a children's book

1107
01:11:57,496 --> 01:11:59,556
about Bitcoin or education series?

1108
01:11:59,936 --> 01:12:00,896
Do you want to talk about that?

1109
01:12:01,336 --> 01:12:03,336
Probably referring to the video

1110
01:12:03,336 --> 01:12:05,036
I did for one of the projects

1111
01:12:05,036 --> 01:12:06,416
from Benin, West Africa.

1112
01:12:06,416 --> 01:12:10,856
I guess this is what you're referring to or maybe something else.

1113
01:12:11,096 --> 01:12:15,556
But yeah, I do run a project called Bitcoin Junior Club for, I don't know, two or three

1114
01:12:15,556 --> 01:12:16,296
years now.

1115
01:12:16,776 --> 01:12:22,976
Again, it's not very active on socials because my work is not circling about being popular

1116
01:12:22,976 --> 01:12:24,936
and being an influencer or whatever.

1117
01:12:25,096 --> 01:12:30,136
I just spent more efforts on building the website and creating resources for kids, teenagers

1118
01:12:30,136 --> 01:12:33,236
and parents or curating such resources.

1119
01:12:33,236 --> 01:12:35,596
and I collaborate offline as well,

1120
01:12:35,656 --> 01:12:36,916
a lot with different projects,

1121
01:12:37,036 --> 01:12:38,396
mostly in Africa,

1122
01:12:39,876 --> 01:12:41,736
like family-oriented, kids-oriented.

1123
01:12:42,316 --> 01:12:43,196
And in between, yes,

1124
01:12:43,216 --> 01:12:45,776
I created a magazine for children

1125
01:12:45,776 --> 01:12:49,016
because I drew a couple of characters

1126
01:12:49,016 --> 01:12:51,496
with different, let's say, lessons to learn from.

1127
01:12:51,716 --> 01:12:52,996
And in the last few years,

1128
01:12:53,076 --> 01:12:55,876
I noticed, I organized also as a side note,

1129
01:12:56,136 --> 01:13:00,196
like side events for kids and parents in person,

1130
01:13:00,316 --> 01:13:01,616
like for example, two years in a row

1131
01:13:01,616 --> 01:13:03,136
during Adopting Bitcoin in El Salvador,

1132
01:13:03,236 --> 01:13:04,676
and so on and so forth.

1133
01:13:04,696 --> 01:13:05,776
And I noticed that kids are,

1134
01:13:06,336 --> 01:13:07,856
they really like this character.

1135
01:13:07,996 --> 01:13:09,076
So I also did the magazine

1136
01:13:09,076 --> 01:13:11,236
because we do have books,

1137
01:13:11,416 --> 01:13:12,396
but we don't have something

1138
01:13:12,396 --> 01:13:14,156
that can be more, let's say,

1139
01:13:15,356 --> 01:13:16,916
engaging than a book

1140
01:13:16,916 --> 01:13:18,316
because kids not necessarily

1141
01:13:18,316 --> 01:13:19,296
always like reading,

1142
01:13:19,396 --> 01:13:20,316
not all of them at least.

1143
01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:21,616
So I did something more practical

1144
01:13:21,616 --> 01:13:23,416
that is combining like creativity

1145
01:13:23,416 --> 01:13:24,956
and a little bit of logic

1146
01:13:24,956 --> 01:13:26,636
and mathematics and so on and so forth,

1147
01:13:26,756 --> 01:13:27,696
plus these characters.

1148
01:13:28,236 --> 01:13:29,356
But I believe you were referring

1149
01:13:29,356 --> 01:13:30,456
to rather the video

1150
01:13:30,456 --> 01:13:31,736
because you, thank you for that,

1151
01:13:31,836 --> 01:13:32,496
reposted it.

1152
01:13:32,496 --> 01:13:39,256
It's touching on hope with Bitcoin, a very nice project from Benny, one of the few projects I collaborate with.

1153
01:13:39,416 --> 01:13:50,596
So altogether, what I'm trying to do is create a family friendly space from small kids, three years old already through teenagers and then ending with parents, aunties and so on.

1154
01:13:51,556 --> 01:13:56,776
And it's not only about Bitcoin, it's more about creativity, critical thinking, connecting with each other.

1155
01:13:56,776 --> 01:14:16,176
So yeah, Bitcoin is a base. But I do believe if we don't think for ourselves, Bitcoin is not going to save us. That's why I also want to show to parents that imposing or pushing the topic of Bitcoin into their kids is not directly healthy. They need to understand it by themselves. And most of the resources existing in this space are kind of like boring.

1156
01:14:16,176 --> 01:14:23,356
So I try to either curate less boring content or and create content on my own.

1157
01:14:23,456 --> 01:14:35,616
So if somebody is into extra than music or just that into the family friendly topics, yeah, homeschooling, creativity, education, including Bitcoin as well.

1158
01:14:35,716 --> 01:14:43,416
You can visit Bitcoin for Youth as a website, which I'm building more than, for example, posting on socials, Noster and Twitter.

1159
01:14:43,416 --> 01:14:43,816
Yeah.

1160
01:14:45,176 --> 01:14:48,016
No, it's, that's great that you're doing that.

1161
01:14:48,116 --> 01:14:49,076
You're involved in that.

1162
01:14:49,356 --> 01:14:57,096
I mean, there are, there are some efforts to educate kids and bring them into the fold, right?

1163
01:14:57,156 --> 01:14:59,896
There's, there's the Total Twins cartoons.

1164
01:15:00,316 --> 01:15:06,556
There's, would you, I don't know, would you consider Maxi's Club for kids?

1165
01:15:06,856 --> 01:15:07,856
It is a cartoon.

1166
01:15:08,236 --> 01:15:08,676
I don't know.

1167
01:15:09,536 --> 01:15:09,796
Okay.

1168
01:15:10,636 --> 01:15:10,916
Yeah.

1169
01:15:11,336 --> 01:15:12,136
Hard to say.

1170
01:15:12,136 --> 01:15:16,176
I don't think she started doing it thinking about kids.

1171
01:15:16,376 --> 01:15:17,996
It's more like, you know, inspiration.

1172
01:15:18,456 --> 01:15:19,956
Let's say her inspiration is more.

1173
01:15:20,056 --> 01:15:22,096
And by the way, yes, it's her, not him.

1174
01:15:22,496 --> 01:15:23,416
She's a close friend.

1175
01:15:23,676 --> 01:15:26,816
If you were listening to it, ready, love and hugs.

1176
01:15:27,056 --> 01:15:30,776
So she was inspired by Simpsons and South Park and this kind of things,

1177
01:15:30,776 --> 01:15:33,836
which is not necessary directing kids.

1178
01:15:34,176 --> 01:15:37,756
But on the other hand, we were playing the first episode of Maxi's Club,

1179
01:15:37,876 --> 01:15:41,796
chapter one, episode one, last year or two years ago at Bitcoin Film Fest.

1180
01:15:42,136 --> 01:15:44,456
on Sunday where there were kids and teenagers.

1181
01:15:44,756 --> 01:15:47,896
And though there were two or three words that we could just beep,

1182
01:15:48,036 --> 01:15:49,196
actually, they loved it.

1183
01:15:49,956 --> 01:15:52,356
I was also playing it this year in El Salvador

1184
01:15:52,356 --> 01:15:55,996
in this Bitcoin familia space for kids,

1185
01:15:56,096 --> 01:15:58,596
but I had the censored version, so to say.

1186
01:15:58,916 --> 01:16:00,596
And kids, again, loved it.

1187
01:16:00,676 --> 01:16:04,336
Some of them even were asking whether it's related to the pepper frog or not.

1188
01:16:04,576 --> 01:16:06,176
So I would say it depends.

1189
01:16:06,236 --> 01:16:08,496
It depends on your sensitivity as a parent,

1190
01:16:08,496 --> 01:16:12,176
but probably it's not directly targeting kids.

1191
01:16:12,356 --> 01:16:15,256
I don't want to speak for red,

1192
01:16:15,376 --> 01:16:18,136
but probably it was not done with this intention.

1193
01:16:18,316 --> 01:16:20,536
But I, for example, found many interesting memes

1194
01:16:20,536 --> 01:16:21,716
that are family-friendly,

1195
01:16:21,856 --> 01:16:24,516
and I also published them or curated them

1196
01:16:24,516 --> 01:16:26,656
on Bitcoin4youth.com.

1197
01:16:28,276 --> 01:16:33,016
And she is working, if I can also tell something exciting,

1198
01:16:33,096 --> 01:16:36,596
she's working on a very, very cool visual book

1199
01:16:36,596 --> 01:16:37,796
for kids, for example.

1200
01:16:37,796 --> 01:16:43,996
I don't know when finally it will be published, but she is working for something unique, targeting kids as well.

1201
01:16:44,816 --> 01:16:46,976
And yeah, Tattle Twins are doing a great job.

1202
01:16:47,116 --> 01:16:49,656
Otherwise, there are really only few cartoons.

1203
01:16:49,856 --> 01:16:54,996
So I started playing on my own as well, creating the animations because I drew a lot.

1204
01:16:55,576 --> 01:16:58,516
And then now with AI, I can animate many of my characters.

1205
01:16:58,516 --> 01:17:00,256
So I started doing it as well.

1206
01:17:00,256 --> 01:17:05,416
So I hope there will be more and more projects coming this way

1207
01:17:05,416 --> 01:17:08,596
because visual content is appealing for kids.

1208
01:17:11,736 --> 01:17:14,536
But yeah, we are very early still.

1209
01:17:15,956 --> 01:17:16,556
No, for sure.

1210
01:17:17,936 --> 01:17:21,796
For people wondering who have ideas for cartoons

1211
01:17:21,796 --> 01:17:25,696
and they're wondering which AI tool would be best to use,

1212
01:17:25,696 --> 01:17:27,716
is that secret sauce, Azza?

1213
01:17:27,716 --> 01:17:34,236
or are you willing to share what the good ones are honestly i don't even remember which i was using

1214
01:17:34,236 --> 01:17:42,336
um it's just a tool to animate drawings so you know if you have your own because this is how i

1215
01:17:42,336 --> 01:17:46,796
work i have my own drawings let's say a character like i did for example that one is pretty funny

1216
01:17:46,796 --> 01:17:53,116
uh bringing the story of alpaca uh the forgotten story of bitcoin alpaca socks so i drew the

1217
01:17:53,116 --> 01:17:59,356
character um and then i just and then in different scenes and then i use the tool to animate it so

1218
01:17:59,356 --> 01:18:05,656
unfortunately i don't remember the name yeah um and i don't do it like every day so

1219
01:18:05,656 --> 01:18:12,636
but you can always people if you're interested in that either you can dm me on on master and i will

1220
01:18:12,636 --> 01:18:17,036
find some links for you at least from what i've used in the past or if not you can do the same

1221
01:18:17,036 --> 01:18:24,276
you know do your own research and just put like okay free or paint ai tool to animate drawings

1222
01:18:24,276 --> 01:18:31,856
because i didn't do it like ai video uh so just to be clear it's based on my drawings always

1223
01:18:31,856 --> 01:18:38,856
great uh we have a comment in the live stream i don't you know the problem is sometimes these uh

1224
01:18:38,856 --> 01:18:43,656
comments come in at different times sometimes i have to refresh the browser i'm going to assume

1225
01:18:43,656 --> 01:18:45,856
it came in when we were talking about Maxi's Club

1226
01:18:45,856 --> 01:18:47,576
and it's from TK in the live chat

1227
01:18:47,576 --> 01:18:49,556
who says, I like the show.

1228
01:18:50,456 --> 01:18:51,916
That's great. Thank you, TK.

1229
01:18:52,736 --> 01:18:53,656
Yeah, thank you.

1230
01:18:53,656 --> 01:18:54,136
I'm glad you like it.

1231
01:18:54,236 --> 01:18:55,736
There's a second chapter already.

1232
01:18:55,936 --> 01:18:57,796
I think she released it for Christmas

1233
01:18:57,796 --> 01:19:01,196
and it was so nice because I also have another project.

1234
01:19:01,776 --> 01:19:04,476
So I list some of my, let's say, wearables

1235
01:19:04,476 --> 01:19:06,976
on Pelabian market.

1236
01:19:06,976 --> 01:19:08,396
So yeah, as well.

1237
01:19:08,696 --> 01:19:09,816
Great, great project.

1238
01:19:10,096 --> 01:19:11,876
So greetings to Chief Monkey.

1239
01:19:11,876 --> 01:19:13,776
and Maxi's actually

1240
01:19:13,776 --> 01:19:16,296
because the plebeian market was included

1241
01:19:16,296 --> 01:19:18,396
in that episode she even used

1242
01:19:18,396 --> 01:19:20,516
some of my t-shirts that I have for kids

1243
01:19:20,516 --> 01:19:22,276
so it was for me like oh my god so sweet

1244
01:19:22,276 --> 01:19:24,496
and I know that she didn't do it because we are friends

1245
01:19:24,496 --> 01:19:26,236
she just did it because it's feet and stuff

1246
01:19:26,236 --> 01:19:28,336
it was so nice you know so yeah there is

1247
01:19:28,336 --> 01:19:29,516
a second episode as well

1248
01:19:29,516 --> 01:19:32,416
of Maxi's Club so two of them for now

1249
01:19:32,416 --> 01:19:34,316
Was the

1250
01:19:34,316 --> 01:19:36,076
second episode the Christmas special?

1251
01:19:36,356 --> 01:19:37,716
Yes it was the Christmas special

1252
01:19:37,716 --> 01:19:40,116
That is not for kids I saw that one

1253
01:19:40,116 --> 01:19:41,956
No, no, no, no, no.

1254
01:19:42,756 --> 01:19:49,016
But for example, speaking just if I can add something, you know, I do have and I can name them my friends.

1255
01:19:49,156 --> 01:19:52,616
I do have most Bitcoiner kids as my friends.

1256
01:19:52,976 --> 01:20:03,796
And I'm saying friends in a sense I can learn from them a lot and get inspired and sometimes just rethink my own, you know, publish mentality still.

1257
01:20:04,636 --> 01:20:08,416
So very often it's the same kind of feedback from them.

1258
01:20:08,416 --> 01:20:13,476
we want to impose what we find attractive on them.

1259
01:20:13,656 --> 01:20:15,456
Like if we love Bitcoin books or podcasts,

1260
01:20:15,556 --> 01:20:16,276
they should do the same,

1261
01:20:16,356 --> 01:20:18,616
but they are missing this entire variety

1262
01:20:18,616 --> 01:20:20,716
and always hearing about Bitcoin,

1263
01:20:20,876 --> 01:20:21,736
better form of money.

1264
01:20:21,916 --> 01:20:23,136
It's so overwhelming for them

1265
01:20:23,136 --> 01:20:24,756
that sometimes it's just discouraging them.

1266
01:20:24,856 --> 01:20:27,456
So if anyone is interested in doing something for kids,

1267
01:20:28,116 --> 01:20:28,996
like kids friendly,

1268
01:20:29,316 --> 01:20:30,936
if you have an idea

1269
01:20:30,936 --> 01:20:32,736
or if you know people who have an idea,

1270
01:20:32,936 --> 01:20:34,916
but you are missing collaboration

1271
01:20:34,916 --> 01:20:36,156
or maybe some kick,

1272
01:20:36,376 --> 01:20:37,696
also please contact me

1273
01:20:37,696 --> 01:20:40,036
because this is one of the topics close to my heart.

1274
01:20:40,576 --> 01:20:42,036
Kids are future adults,

1275
01:20:42,496 --> 01:20:45,836
and we shouldn't discourage them with the topic of Bitcoin.

1276
01:20:46,076 --> 01:20:49,416
We should actually show them why it's a different form of money,

1277
01:20:49,616 --> 01:20:52,876
but in a way they understand so that they become a sovereign generation

1278
01:20:52,876 --> 01:20:54,536
that will build a sovereign world,

1279
01:20:54,536 --> 01:20:58,156
not just the replica of what we have right now.

1280
01:20:59,816 --> 01:21:00,296
Absolutely.

1281
01:21:00,536 --> 01:21:03,936
And I think one way of doing it is just meeting the kids where they are.

1282
01:21:04,036 --> 01:21:05,336
Obviously, it depends on the age, right?

1283
01:21:05,336 --> 01:21:10,156
maybe the teenagers, you can start approaching, the older teenagers especially, you can start

1284
01:21:10,156 --> 01:21:14,996
approaching them with some of the more complicated topics. But for the younger ones, it has to be

1285
01:21:14,996 --> 01:21:22,556
play, I think. And on that note, Azad, I'm sure you know Nathan Day and his son. I don't think I

1286
01:21:22,556 --> 01:21:30,776
can say his son's name on air. I don't think that's public. But his son does build games,

1287
01:21:30,776 --> 01:21:37,836
right almost uh yeah um yeah yeah amazing i mean there are a couple of uh kiddos that are let's say

1288
01:21:37,836 --> 01:21:55,468
public publicly known doing great stuff um and also you know that another thing when you generally spend some time with mostly homeschooled kids or not only homeschooled kids but kids who are from this independent freedom kind of oriented families not to

1289
01:21:55,468 --> 01:21:58,328
call everyone Bitcoiner, it's such a big gap.

1290
01:21:58,448 --> 01:21:59,308
They are independent.

1291
01:21:59,568 --> 01:22:00,288
They are direct.

1292
01:22:00,408 --> 01:22:01,148
They are curious.

1293
01:22:01,988 --> 01:22:07,368
And like you have a feeling they are way more intelligent than their average, you know,

1294
01:22:07,448 --> 01:22:09,308
peer, like the age group, right?

1295
01:22:09,328 --> 01:22:12,148
And they are building and doing things.

1296
01:22:12,148 --> 01:22:17,628
they are also not shy but not arrogant at the same time so it's incredible so i want to see

1297
01:22:17,628 --> 01:22:23,328
more kids like that because there is not a stupid kid born it's just if we sometimes sorry for such

1298
01:22:23,328 --> 01:22:26,948
a vocabulary but if we sometimes say that okay this kid is not very smart it's not like this

1299
01:22:26,948 --> 01:22:32,448
kid was born stupid it's just the reality is making this kid like making it you know more

1300
01:22:32,448 --> 01:22:38,608
oppressed and close and and shy and acting in a silly way so yeah um as a parent who is stupid

1301
01:22:38,608 --> 01:22:39,708
for whatever reason

1302
01:22:39,708 --> 01:22:41,388
and they poured their stupidity

1303
01:22:41,388 --> 01:22:42,048
into the child.

1304
01:22:42,368 --> 01:22:42,788
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1305
01:22:43,068 --> 01:22:43,568
But there are,

1306
01:22:43,648 --> 01:22:45,488
there is also Nini from the UK,

1307
01:22:45,688 --> 01:22:46,428
Samantha Derval,

1308
01:22:46,528 --> 01:22:47,948
but she's older,

1309
01:22:48,308 --> 01:22:49,308
kids of Daniel.

1310
01:22:49,828 --> 01:22:51,648
I do quite many of them.

1311
01:22:51,748 --> 01:22:53,808
And also speaking of the projects,

1312
01:22:53,908 --> 01:22:56,028
I collaborate with African communities,

1313
01:22:56,328 --> 01:23:00,008
at least three countries in Africa

1314
01:23:00,008 --> 01:23:01,288
because it's a huge continent.

1315
01:23:01,888 --> 01:23:02,968
The kids there as well,

1316
01:23:03,608 --> 01:23:04,168
you know, building,

1317
01:23:04,308 --> 01:23:05,308
oh yeah, another project

1318
01:23:05,308 --> 01:23:06,008
from El Salvador.

1319
01:23:06,368 --> 01:23:08,128
So yeah, shout out to

1320
01:23:08,128 --> 01:23:14,708
notes nation um they are teenagers actually uh but they are building notes and installing notes

1321
01:23:14,708 --> 01:23:20,608
at schools i mean incredible stuff incredible stuff really so yeah and remember kids are

1322
01:23:20,608 --> 01:23:25,688
future adults so don't don't think that they don't know stuff actually they know way more than

1323
01:23:25,688 --> 01:23:31,508
us sometimes yeah we can get back to the topic again because i think it's an important one

1324
01:23:31,508 --> 01:23:38,028
but let's listen to the last song that you have uh this one is from a band that was recently on

1325
01:23:38,028 --> 01:23:40,268
boarded into the open music space.

1326
01:23:40,728 --> 01:23:42,268
And in fact, I played one of their songs

1327
01:23:42,268 --> 01:23:43,508
on

1328
01:23:43,508 --> 01:23:45,988
Plep Chain Radio maybe two or three

1329
01:23:45,988 --> 01:23:46,588
weeks ago.

1330
01:23:47,708 --> 01:23:50,068
Why don't we play it, Azan, and then we can talk a little

1331
01:23:50,068 --> 01:23:51,068
bit about the band.

1332
01:23:52,528 --> 01:23:53,468
This is

1333
01:23:53,468 --> 01:23:55,928
Nothing Left to Say by

1334
01:23:55,928 --> 01:23:56,908
Jaded Jester.

1335
01:24:08,028 --> 01:24:10,408
All the pain

1336
01:24:10,408 --> 01:24:12,748
I soaked up

1337
01:24:12,748 --> 01:24:14,828
Loving you

1338
01:24:14,828 --> 01:24:16,908
Instead of me to describe

1339
01:24:16,908 --> 01:24:19,828
Don't even know where you are

1340
01:24:19,828 --> 01:24:22,008
Likely stuck

1341
01:24:22,008 --> 01:24:24,288
In your ways

1342
01:24:24,288 --> 01:24:26,588
So I look back and I find

1343
01:24:26,588 --> 01:24:28,828
That I can leave you behind

1344
01:24:28,828 --> 01:24:31,108
Lock that door

1345
01:24:31,108 --> 01:24:33,028
Loose the key

1346
01:24:33,028 --> 01:24:34,608
Cause I've got

1347
01:24:34,608 --> 01:24:37,008
Nothing left to say

1348
01:24:37,008 --> 01:24:39,328
Loop the other way

1349
01:24:39,328 --> 01:24:42,568
I'm not gonna pay

1350
01:24:42,568 --> 01:24:46,188
All your power gains

1351
01:24:46,188 --> 01:24:48,448
Dancing with my brain

1352
01:24:48,448 --> 01:24:52,088
You can't keep the shame

1353
01:24:52,088 --> 01:24:56,168
It's time, crowded space

1354
01:24:56,168 --> 01:25:00,768
No surprise, you take no blame

1355
01:25:00,768 --> 01:25:03,108
There's no blood

1356
01:25:03,108 --> 01:25:07,668
Big enough to keep me from

1357
01:25:07,668 --> 01:25:09,808
Choosing myself

1358
01:25:09,808 --> 01:25:12,268
But no one knows who you are

1359
01:25:12,268 --> 01:25:14,528
The way you take it too far

1360
01:25:14,528 --> 01:25:19,108
Justified in your rage

1361
01:25:19,108 --> 01:25:21,348
Thing is I know I'm good here

1362
01:25:21,348 --> 01:25:23,628
Tell me I'm too so far where

1363
01:25:23,628 --> 01:25:26,068
No goodbyes

1364
01:25:26,068 --> 01:25:29,468
Disengage cause I've got

1365
01:25:29,468 --> 01:25:31,888
Nothing left to say

1366
01:25:31,888 --> 01:25:34,188
Look the other way

1367
01:25:34,188 --> 01:25:37,528
I'm not gonna play

1368
01:25:37,528 --> 01:25:41,048
All your power gains

1369
01:25:41,048 --> 01:25:43,288
Basing with my brain

1370
01:25:43,288 --> 01:25:46,968
You can't keep the shame

1371
01:26:01,888 --> 01:26:31,868
guitar solo

1372
01:26:31,888 --> 01:26:35,908
All your power gains

1373
01:26:35,908 --> 01:26:38,148
Dancing with my brain

1374
01:26:38,148 --> 01:26:41,808
You can't keep the shame

1375
01:26:41,808 --> 01:26:45,008
Nothing left to say

1376
01:26:45,008 --> 01:26:47,328
Look the other way

1377
01:26:47,328 --> 01:26:50,568
I'm not gonna play

1378
01:26:50,568 --> 01:26:54,188
All your power gains

1379
01:26:54,188 --> 01:26:56,428
Dancing with my brain

1380
01:26:56,428 --> 01:27:00,268
You can't keep the shame

1381
01:27:00,268 --> 01:27:08,108
That was Nothing Left to Say by Jaded Jester.

1382
01:27:08,648 --> 01:27:13,748
I love that high energy vibe that this band has.

1383
01:27:14,048 --> 01:27:14,468
It's great.

1384
01:27:15,388 --> 01:27:16,168
Yeah, absolutely.

1385
01:27:16,468 --> 01:27:19,608
I mean, I cannot really wait when they will release more songs.

1386
01:27:19,708 --> 01:27:21,268
I think on YouTube they have one more.

1387
01:27:22,228 --> 01:27:23,548
On Fountain is only this one.

1388
01:27:23,548 --> 01:27:26,688
So here again, once again, like big thanks to Aaron,

1389
01:27:26,688 --> 01:27:32,768
because thanks to him, we can enjoy their music right now here.

1390
01:27:32,848 --> 01:27:34,208
I mean, they would do what they are doing,

1391
01:27:34,308 --> 01:27:38,688
but he just brought them to this unchained, let's say, vibrations.

1392
01:27:39,768 --> 01:27:42,128
So yeah, I cannot really wait because, you know,

1393
01:27:42,168 --> 01:27:45,828
when I listen to this song, I feel like I'm 15 again.

1394
01:27:46,068 --> 01:27:49,948
So there is this saying that the best time machine is actually music, right?

1395
01:27:49,948 --> 01:27:52,148
Or a specific song because it can move you back

1396
01:27:52,148 --> 01:27:56,768
and to different moments of time in your life.

1397
01:27:56,848 --> 01:27:59,228
So when I hear this, I feel like I'm 15 again.

1398
01:28:00,108 --> 01:28:01,148
So, yeah.

1399
01:28:02,048 --> 01:28:03,108
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1400
01:28:03,128 --> 01:28:06,408
There is that teenage energy that it brings out.

1401
01:28:07,548 --> 01:28:08,528
That, yeah, for sure.

1402
01:28:09,008 --> 01:28:11,648
I mean, I was not an easy teenager, let me put it this way.

1403
01:28:11,788 --> 01:28:13,388
Very rebellious.

1404
01:28:14,428 --> 01:28:15,048
So, yeah.

1405
01:28:15,668 --> 01:28:15,888
Yeah.

1406
01:28:16,188 --> 01:28:18,968
We have Noah and Lahav in the chat.

1407
01:28:19,208 --> 01:28:20,308
Thank you for the zaps.

1408
01:28:20,568 --> 01:28:20,928
Hi.

1409
01:28:20,928 --> 01:28:27,388
I messaged in the chat just now

1410
01:28:27,388 --> 01:28:29,308
but they missed their shout out

1411
01:28:29,308 --> 01:28:31,528
so they're going to have to listen to the episode

1412
01:28:31,528 --> 01:28:33,708
when it's out

1413
01:28:33,708 --> 01:28:35,668
either today or tomorrow

1414
01:28:35,668 --> 01:28:36,908
maybe that was meant to be

1415
01:28:36,908 --> 01:28:39,808
they can enjoy the songs before

1416
01:28:39,808 --> 01:28:41,848
like we were playing before

1417
01:28:41,848 --> 01:28:44,088
yeah

1418
01:28:44,088 --> 01:28:46,228
you know one of the interesting things

1419
01:28:46,228 --> 01:28:48,708
there's Jaded Jester, there's Hear My Roar

1420
01:28:48,708 --> 01:28:50,528
and there's in the US side

1421
01:28:50,528 --> 01:28:55,248
There's Ainsley, there's Sarah Jade, obviously Ivy Lumi, several others.

1422
01:28:56,748 --> 01:29:01,288
What I, you know, with Bitcoin on the tech side, right?

1423
01:29:01,828 --> 01:29:04,648
Even Nostra to a large extent on the tech side.

1424
01:29:05,168 --> 01:29:07,528
It tends to be so male dominated.

1425
01:29:07,528 --> 01:29:15,448
I think what's very interesting and nice to see on the value for value music side is it seems to be a nice balance.

1426
01:29:15,668 --> 01:29:19,888
There are a lot of female fronted bands like there's Hear My Raw, there's this one.

1427
01:29:20,528 --> 01:29:25,008
and several others actually that I've been playing on the show.

1428
01:29:25,308 --> 01:29:29,108
It's been an equal mix of male and female-fronted bands.

1429
01:29:29,108 --> 01:29:31,968
Well, here we have even a perfect example of,

1430
01:29:32,248 --> 01:29:34,368
it's similar to Skardust, right?

1431
01:29:34,468 --> 01:29:38,048
You have, even within the band, the mix in itself,

1432
01:29:38,128 --> 01:29:41,368
it's not only like female bands or only male bands,

1433
01:29:41,448 --> 01:29:44,708
what we can refer to if somebody remembers 90s,

1434
01:29:45,028 --> 01:29:47,008
boys' bands and girls' bands only.

1435
01:29:47,008 --> 01:29:49,008
So now we have a healthy mix as well, right?

1436
01:29:49,008 --> 01:29:52,008
But also there are many incredible solo artists.

1437
01:29:52,268 --> 01:29:53,348
So yeah, you mentioned Evie.

1438
01:29:54,248 --> 01:29:57,068
If you are still with us, Evie also hugs to you.

1439
01:29:57,168 --> 01:29:59,788
But there are others as well, talented.

1440
01:30:00,308 --> 01:30:03,808
And you feel when you hear their songs, you feel that it's their life.

1441
01:30:03,888 --> 01:30:08,988
It's a part of their life that they are trying to release some or share with us, not release,

1442
01:30:08,988 --> 01:30:15,488
but share with us some piece of themselves and help our lives through their music as well.

1443
01:30:15,608 --> 01:30:16,348
And it's incredible.

1444
01:30:17,008 --> 01:30:17,408
So yeah.

1445
01:30:17,408 --> 01:30:28,548
yeah so uh as we were talking about uh kids content and kids being future adults well is

1446
01:30:28,548 --> 01:30:34,128
what else are you seeing on on that front to bring kids into the fold i know there were

1447
01:30:34,128 --> 01:30:43,248
the hrf if i'm not mistaken um had some they had some funding aside for this is more for uh

1448
01:30:43,248 --> 01:30:44,968
late high school, early college.

1449
01:30:45,048 --> 01:30:48,148
So like we're talking about 17 to 20 year olds.

1450
01:30:48,148 --> 01:30:50,828
So maybe young adults more than kids.

1451
01:30:51,028 --> 01:30:55,708
They had some educational initiative for them.

1452
01:30:56,208 --> 01:30:57,608
Anything else that you're seeing?

1453
01:30:59,028 --> 01:31:02,408
I mean, overall, I would say that this is my personal approach,

1454
01:31:02,488 --> 01:31:06,348
but to whoever I talk to, whether it's a parent

1455
01:31:06,348 --> 01:31:09,468
or somebody somehow involved in the family-friendly,

1456
01:31:09,688 --> 01:31:12,148
you know, Bitcoin-oriented projects.

1457
01:31:12,148 --> 01:31:17,308
So same ideas, like we don't necessarily need Bitcoin only topic.

1458
01:31:17,468 --> 01:31:24,748
We just need something that will inspire these kids to be together, to create relationships and to start using their own talents.

1459
01:31:25,068 --> 01:31:29,128
So creativity, logic, there is this saying that kids, they don't like math.

1460
01:31:29,248 --> 01:31:32,808
Yeah, they don't like math at school, but it doesn't mean they don't like numbers overall.

1461
01:31:33,048 --> 01:31:34,468
So it's a completely wrong impression.

1462
01:31:34,468 --> 01:31:39,488
So overall, we need bigger variety of content.

1463
01:31:39,488 --> 01:31:43,388
And not only from our side as, so to say, quote unquote, Bitcoiners.

1464
01:31:43,508 --> 01:31:44,868
Oh, everything has to be about Bitcoin.

1465
01:31:45,028 --> 01:31:48,428
No, it can just bring the topic in a very smooth way.

1466
01:31:48,508 --> 01:31:50,468
If the kid is interested, they are like a sponge.

1467
01:31:50,548 --> 01:31:52,328
They will be asking and digging deeper.

1468
01:31:54,168 --> 01:31:58,608
So that's not only my opinion, but also quite many different people that I've met.

1469
01:31:58,608 --> 01:32:00,508
So we need more variety of content.

1470
01:32:01,988 --> 01:32:05,568
And also in itself, to read, to listen to.

1471
01:32:05,788 --> 01:32:07,708
Also like songs, for example, right?

1472
01:32:07,708 --> 01:32:15,268
A while ago, I started creating, unfortunately, here with AI, please don't stall me, but some songs for kids.

1473
01:32:16,328 --> 01:32:20,568
And then I stopped because it's silly and it doesn't have this real vibe.

1474
01:32:20,808 --> 01:32:27,668
But maybe somebody could create a playlist or a podcast.

1475
01:32:28,028 --> 01:32:31,168
Shamori is doing, but it's more like for families, not kids.

1476
01:32:31,428 --> 01:32:33,388
So, yeah, we are just missing content.

1477
01:32:33,388 --> 01:32:35,788
But not to blame anyone because we are very early.

1478
01:32:35,788 --> 01:32:40,288
and also there are some parents that they don't want to expose their kids to Bitcoin at all.

1479
01:32:40,428 --> 01:32:46,048
That's why, actually, we need more stuff that is for critical thinkers, creativity,

1480
01:32:46,708 --> 01:32:47,868
and kind of building relationships.

1481
01:32:48,108 --> 01:32:52,908
So everything that is opposite to the fiat culture and fiat world,

1482
01:32:53,028 --> 01:32:55,888
so that the kids can play, have fun, sharpen their skills.

1483
01:32:56,208 --> 01:33:00,008
Yeah, a place to be from Madeira is an incredible initiative as well.

1484
01:33:00,248 --> 01:33:01,388
There are many of them, actually.

1485
01:33:01,468 --> 01:33:03,108
If you start digging, there are many of them.

1486
01:33:03,948 --> 01:33:05,508
Also targeting smaller kids.

1487
01:33:05,508 --> 01:33:13,548
At the end of the day, it's all about making these kids healthier and happier so that they can release their talents and their passions.

1488
01:33:14,268 --> 01:33:20,728
And they will eventually become, you know, healthier, mentally healthier and more independent human beings, adults.

1489
01:33:21,928 --> 01:33:23,328
Yeah, for sure.

1490
01:33:24,148 --> 01:33:30,848
So also the one topic we haven't actually talked about, and we don't have to spend too much time on this because there's still one more song to play.

1491
01:33:31,808 --> 01:33:33,488
You know, we're getting close to the end here.

1492
01:33:33,488 --> 01:33:35,268
But is the Bitcoin Film Fest.

1493
01:33:35,508 --> 01:33:47,288
Maybe real quick, what can we look forward to? I know that's still a few months away. Any movies or things top of mind for you that people can look forward to?

1494
01:33:47,288 --> 01:34:14,328
Yeah, first of all, everyone, please do your best to come to Warsaw, the capital of Poland, 4th to 7th of June. So yeah, not that far actually from now. So speaking of non-conferences, this is not a conference. This is a festival. It's a cultural event. So you have mostly screenings, movies, everything around like visual content, but also concerts and writers and books.

1495
01:34:14,328 --> 01:34:16,608
So yeah, unique experience.

1496
01:34:16,988 --> 01:34:17,808
Fourth time already.

1497
01:34:18,928 --> 01:34:27,228
When it comes to title, so overall, I hope personally that finally we will be able to screen Bitcoin Executor.

1498
01:34:27,348 --> 01:34:28,888
Because it's a very good movie.

1499
01:34:29,168 --> 01:34:30,248
It's fiction.

1500
01:34:30,948 --> 01:34:31,748
It's engaging.

1501
01:34:31,908 --> 01:34:32,648
Super professional.

1502
01:34:33,268 --> 01:34:36,688
It was done in six years, if I remember correctly.

1503
01:34:36,808 --> 01:34:38,948
But there is always something happening in the last moment.

1504
01:34:39,028 --> 01:34:41,848
We're supposed to already screen it last year that we cannot.

1505
01:34:42,008 --> 01:34:43,288
So I hope it will happen this year.

1506
01:34:43,288 --> 01:34:43,648
it is

1507
01:34:43,648 --> 01:34:45,228
officially

1508
01:34:45,228 --> 01:34:45,848
unofficially

1509
01:34:45,848 --> 01:34:46,368
on the list

1510
01:34:46,368 --> 01:34:46,928
is one of the

1511
01:34:46,928 --> 01:34:47,348
titles

1512
01:34:47,348 --> 01:34:48,468
otherwise

1513
01:34:48,468 --> 01:34:49,008
yeah there

1514
01:34:49,008 --> 01:34:49,368
will be a

1515
01:34:49,368 --> 01:34:49,688
couple of

1516
01:34:49,688 --> 01:34:50,028
other

1517
01:34:50,028 --> 01:34:50,628
documentaries

1518
01:34:50,628 --> 01:35:02,560
and shorts once again different bitcoin ads which is also fun to watch Experimental shorts and AI as well Yeah I think documentaries I already mentioned

1519
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,780
So, yeah, the program looks very interesting.

1520
01:35:05,940 --> 01:35:07,520
There will be premieres.

1521
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:14,800
And then, as always, the rabbits for the best movies, including the audience choice.

1522
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,660
So, a lot to go through, a lot to experience.

1523
01:35:17,940 --> 01:35:18,840
Workshops as well.

1524
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:31,220
So actually Noah and Lahav were with us last year and they were, you see, not being a filmmakers, but they presented how they created a very professional video clip for one of their songs.

1525
01:35:31,220 --> 01:35:34,280
So even this kind of stuff, if somebody is more into musicals.

1526
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:35,640
Well, Lahav is a filmmaker.

1527
01:35:36,260 --> 01:35:38,020
Sorry to interrupt.

1528
01:35:38,220 --> 01:35:39,140
Lahav is a filmmaker.

1529
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,820
Yeah, but they were presenting it as Cardos, so as a music band.

1530
01:35:43,820 --> 01:36:11,960
Now, since we are listening to music and mostly we were talking about music, if somebody is not into the cinema, you can even experience these kind of things. So not necessarily think about movies and films only. But yeah, titles, I cannot speak for like, I cannot say directly how many titles and exactly which titles. But yeah, we are hoping for the Bitcoin Executor, Hummingbird, I think will be there. But overall, decent, decent lineup.

1531
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:24,340
So, yeah, two full days in the cinema and four to seven, including parties, live music and connecting with, yeah, with interesting people from all over the world.

1532
01:36:24,660 --> 01:36:26,840
Not a huge event, but worth joining.

1533
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:29,900
Yeah, for sure.

1534
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:31,600
I mean, I was there for the first year.

1535
01:36:32,540 --> 01:36:34,980
That happened to coincide with the halving party.

1536
01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:35,740
Yeah.

1537
01:36:35,740 --> 01:36:37,980
I think we, no, I met you before that.

1538
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,500
I met you in Madeira a month or two before that.

1539
01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:43,060
But yeah, we hung out there and that was fun.

1540
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:44,480
A fantastic event, actually.

1541
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,880
The Halving Party and the Film Fest of 2024.

1542
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,480
So yeah, check it out, folks.

1543
01:36:49,660 --> 01:36:52,580
In Warsaw, early June of this year.

1544
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:58,140
So I typically play one song after the guest songs are played.

1545
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:03,160
And I try to find a curveball, something that's completely different from what was played.

1546
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,580
A little surprise.

1547
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,740
And unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a surprise.

1548
01:37:08,740 --> 01:37:16,260
And maybe that in itself is a surprise that my song fits in very nicely with what we played.

1549
01:37:16,460 --> 01:37:18,860
This is a band from the UK.

1550
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,060
It's the Abbott Brothers, Nathan and Nolan and a couple of others.

1551
01:37:23,460 --> 01:37:25,220
It's called the 54 Plates.

1552
01:37:25,300 --> 01:37:27,600
And the interesting thing is if you listen to the Abbott Brothers,

1553
01:37:27,820 --> 01:37:35,220
their solo music has a very different vibe from their band, the 54 Plates,

1554
01:37:35,220 --> 01:37:37,220
which has this almost like a Seattle,

1555
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:42,420
or at least 90s alt-rock grunge kind of vibe to it.

1556
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:48,080
So this is one of their songs from their album.

1557
01:37:48,440 --> 01:37:52,440
This is Killer by The 54 Plates.

1558
01:37:52,440 --> 01:38:04,880
We can't beat the system

1559
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,060
Till we defeat the man

1560
01:38:08,060 --> 01:38:12,680
Getting angry at ourselves

1561
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,840
Pushing hate makes me the world

1562
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,880
More pressure than a full cocaine

1563
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,740
You're pushing in, you're pushing out

1564
01:38:21,740 --> 01:38:24,000
You take the pain, you scream and shout

1565
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,340
We're lost out there

1566
01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:30,820
I've been wondering for days

1567
01:38:30,820 --> 01:38:33,160
In a world that's so afraid

1568
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:37,440
With puppets on a string inside

1569
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:40,820
They're bitter

1570
01:38:40,820 --> 01:38:44,460
And life is life

1571
01:38:44,460 --> 01:38:46,080
You've dealt the time there

1572
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:47,640
We've been a fight for big

1573
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,280
And you've been lost

1574
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,020
To carry out through our feet

1575
01:38:52,020 --> 01:38:54,560
Now babe, I don't buy the love

1576
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,380
I'm a runaway train of fame

1577
01:38:56,380 --> 01:38:58,740
This is drama, this is freedom

1578
01:38:58,740 --> 01:39:00,280
This is care

1579
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:12,160
We won't be their system

1580
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,520
Till they free our minds

1581
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,920
They'll eat meat tossers to the side

1582
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,400
They're giving hope to break our pride

1583
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,960
We're stronger in those

1584
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,320
Lots of numbers

1585
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,620
And life is life

1586
01:39:33,620 --> 01:39:36,760
They know the cause and we're paying the price for me

1587
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,960
And you, by the life is the money I fool I feel

1588
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,700
Nobody, by the life I'm a runaway train

1589
01:39:44,700 --> 01:39:47,580
I feel this is drama, this is freedom

1590
01:39:47,580 --> 01:39:49,340
This is killer

1591
01:39:49,340 --> 01:39:56,800
Like, it's the killer of me

1592
01:39:57,540 --> 01:40:01,580
Like, it's the killer of me

1593
01:40:01,580 --> 01:40:05,580
Like, it's the killer of me

1594
01:40:06,340 --> 01:40:09,840
Like, it's the killer

1595
01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:47,560
I don't know.

1596
01:40:47,580 --> 01:40:50,120
By the last time I run away, train that field.

1597
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:51,200
This is drama.

1598
01:40:51,620 --> 01:40:52,340
This is freedom.

1599
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:53,980
This is killer.

1600
01:41:00,380 --> 01:41:04,720
That was Killer by 54 Plates.

1601
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,400
Azra, have you heard this band before?

1602
01:41:07,980 --> 01:41:08,300
Yes.

1603
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,220
I mean, not like all of their songs, but this song, yes.

1604
01:41:11,220 --> 01:41:13,400
It's actually in one of my private playlists.

1605
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:14,760
Favorite.

1606
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:16,780
So thanks for choosing it.

1607
01:41:17,580 --> 01:41:28,000
Yeah, amazing. Again, it brings me back when I was a teenager, circling around Metallica and punk and a little bit of rock.

1608
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:34,920
So exploring that areas, being more and more rebellious, more and more questioning myself and the world around.

1609
01:41:35,220 --> 01:41:44,280
So amazing. And just a side note, maybe, you know, recently I had a chat with a friend and I tried to show her what I'm working on.

1610
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,560
And I mentioned the independent music industry.

1611
01:41:46,700 --> 01:41:50,620
She's also kind of like familiar with the independent film industry from the Bitcoin Film Fest.

1612
01:41:50,620 --> 01:41:57,600
And she was actually expecting like really starting, you know, non-professional kind of musicians.

1613
01:41:57,860 --> 01:42:01,380
And then she listened to a couple of songs and she was like, fuck, this is so good.

1614
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:03,160
Where are these people have been?

1615
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,440
Why I didn't hear any of it before.

1616
01:42:06,660 --> 01:42:09,500
So, yeah, really good vibes.

1617
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:11,540
It is remarkable, isn't it?

1618
01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:13,460
That you have such amazing music here.

1619
01:42:13,460 --> 01:42:22,600
I mean, discovery of independent music is something that needs to be solved, curation and discovery.

1620
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:24,740
And I think there is work happening on that.

1621
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:32,520
Because, you know, you can have censorship-free distribution, value for value, all of that stuff.

1622
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,700
But then how does someone actually find the music?

1623
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:36,900
Yeah, definitely.

1624
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:42,980
I mean, great that we already have platforms like Fountain, Wave Lake, and Waymore.

1625
01:42:42,980 --> 01:42:45,060
also like a new client on Nostria

1626
01:42:45,060 --> 01:42:47,100
in itself, Nostria, it's adding so

1627
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:49,020
many different functionalities to explore

1628
01:42:49,020 --> 01:42:50,180
music and video clips

1629
01:42:50,180 --> 01:42:52,960
yeah, there is also another

1630
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:54,760
new client with S, I forgot

1631
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,000
directly related to music, there are a couple

1632
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:57,940
of kind of like

1633
01:42:57,940 --> 01:43:01,060
equivalents of YouTube, though of course

1634
01:43:01,060 --> 01:43:02,780
they are not yet rich in content

1635
01:43:02,780 --> 01:43:05,020
but we are just starting and

1636
01:43:05,020 --> 01:43:07,120
and I noticed that if

1637
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,200
a newbie, somebody who is enslaved

1638
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,140
you know, and still like using only Spotify

1639
01:43:11,140 --> 01:43:13,360
and on one side either complaining on fees

1640
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,600
or on the other side on the ads all the time

1641
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,060
and disturbing the experience.

1642
01:43:17,060 --> 01:43:18,980
If they just even check Fountain

1643
01:43:18,980 --> 01:43:22,580
and they see how easy and smooth it is

1644
01:43:22,580 --> 01:43:25,980
and that they can support the musician or the song

1645
01:43:25,980 --> 01:43:27,160
and they don't need to pay for that.

1646
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,660
There are no ads and there is so much of good music.

1647
01:43:29,660 --> 01:43:33,060
It's not some kind of underground whatever niche only.

1648
01:43:33,180 --> 01:43:34,480
There are really talented musicians

1649
01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:37,200
being in a space for 10, 15, 20 years even.

1650
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,880
It's good because from mouth to mouth

1651
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,080
it can go further and further.

1652
01:43:41,220 --> 01:43:42,520
Of course, we would need something

1653
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,420
that will help it scale faster than that.

1654
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,960
But yeah, I'm hopeful.

1655
01:43:48,340 --> 01:43:50,620
And I know looking at the last,

1656
01:43:50,740 --> 01:43:53,420
even what, four or five years of Nostra itself,

1657
01:43:53,620 --> 01:43:55,140
when I joined, there was almost nothing.

1658
01:43:55,300 --> 01:43:57,000
It was just like social media.

1659
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:58,540
I really don't like when people just think

1660
01:43:58,540 --> 01:44:00,140
of Nostra as social media and other protocol,

1661
01:44:00,420 --> 01:44:02,360
but it was almost nothing and it was so buggy.

1662
01:44:02,440 --> 01:44:05,880
And now we have literally almost every tool

1663
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:07,000
that exists on the internet

1664
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:08,560
and we are going further and further

1665
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,380
and adding more spaces, more areas

1666
01:44:11,380 --> 01:44:13,400
and expanding and building and improving.

1667
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,360
So yes, the future is bright.

1668
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:19,240
Yeah, for sure.

1669
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,640
So Azar, anything else you want to talk about?

1670
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,240
We covered quite a bit of ground today.

1671
01:44:26,500 --> 01:44:27,920
Anything you think we might have missed?

1672
01:44:28,780 --> 01:44:30,660
No, I think it's all good.

1673
01:44:30,660 --> 01:44:34,080
I also don't want now to sound like a broken record

1674
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,600
referring to the music.

1675
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,660
so if anyone has some questions

1676
01:44:38,660 --> 01:44:40,980
or suggestions they can always write a comment

1677
01:44:40,980 --> 01:44:42,900
or reach out to

1678
01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:44,200
any of us or both of us

1679
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,040
so we can discuss

1680
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,540
or maybe find a topic for another

1681
01:44:48,540 --> 01:44:49,240
meeting

1682
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,640
so thank you very much for that

1683
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,700
I really enjoyed listening to these songs

1684
01:44:54,700 --> 01:44:56,640
with all of you guys

1685
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,780
whoever is listening to us live

1686
01:44:58,780 --> 01:45:00,680
and who will later check

1687
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:01,340
the recording

1688
01:45:01,340 --> 01:45:03,640
it was not an easy task for me to build this playlist

1689
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,160
because I could easily do

1690
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:12,020
like 50 or 100 songs but it was a pleasure so yeah happy sunday uh to you avi thank you for the

1691
01:45:12,020 --> 01:45:22,760
invitation and yeah now thank you absolutely thank you as i make sure folks that you uh check out

1692
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:28,700
uh amplified tunes i'm gonna have everything uh and bitcoin junior club as well i'll have all of

1693
01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:33,360
those linked in the show notes uh so if you're listening to the podcast just head on over to the

1694
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:40,180
show notes you'll find all the links there follow amplified tunes on nostor follow azon nostor if

1695
01:45:40,180 --> 01:45:43,040
you're not following i don't know what you're doing if you're not following her on nostor

1696
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:49,660
uh but uh but yes thank you and thank you to our live stream audience for listening for the comments

1697
01:45:49,660 --> 01:45:57,020
and for the zaps if you're listening to the recorded episode and this session added a little

1698
01:45:57,020 --> 01:46:02,700
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1699
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:09,700
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1700
01:46:09,700 --> 01:46:16,340
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1701
01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:24,880
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1702
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:32,160
of producers, the final word goes to the executive producer of the episode. That's the top booster

1703
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:39,040
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1704
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:48,080
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1705
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:56,280
to Strangelove, who boosted into last week's episode with this. Great episode. Can't wait for

1706
01:46:56,280 --> 01:47:03,100
South by Worldwide live stream. It's going to be a very intriguing weekend. Thank you,

1707
01:47:03,380 --> 01:47:09,740
Strangelove. And indeed, South by Worldwide has been off to a great start with music from around

1708
01:47:09,740 --> 01:47:15,760
the world and also some very thoughtful conversations. The festivities are supposed

1709
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:17,540
to continue for the next few days,

1710
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:20,640
although the music might end today.

1711
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,020
So lots more to come.

1712
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Great job, Hash Power Music, Shadrach,

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and everyone else involved

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in getting this festival off the ground.

1715
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,460
And until next Sunday, folks,

1716
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it's happy Monday through Saturday.

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Farewell.

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Thank you.