The noise of the week is behind us.
The feed is off.
The record is spinning.
It's time to stop interviewing and start listening.
Welcome to Sunday Brunch.
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, you hungry hunters of harmonious hyperlinks.
Welcome to the 10th serving of Sunday Brunch.
and today is, you guessed it, Sunday.
It is the 15th of March and very much brunch time on the East Coast of the United States,
which can only mean one thing, your favorite music on the lightning-laced airwaves.
Now, settle in. This is not your regular podcast.
I don't have any questions prepared, I don't have a sermon,
and I won't be asking our guest
about their multi-sig,
geographically distributed cold storage protocol.
There's just a table,
some coffee and a record player.
The guest is the DJ here.
And because there is no corporate sponsor in the booth,
you are the ones keeping the coffee pot full.
This is a Valley for Valley production.
I don't run ads.
The show runs on Vibe.
If you enjoyed the selection today,
you can throw some sats in the digital tip jar
by boosting on Fountain or zapping on Noster.
Here is the house rule.
When the needle drops, the sats follow.
90% of everything you stream during the song
goes directly to the artist.
You are tipping the band.
When the music fades and we're just chatting,
you're buying around for the guest and me.
And my guest today is a dear friend
and involved in several projects in Bitcoin culture.
Aza is here and she's brought her own playlist with her.
We're going to spin some tracks.
We're going to talk about whatever topics bubble up
in the silences between the music
and give everyone listening a chance
to enter this decompression chamber after a long week.
So, find a sunny spot on the patio.
Aza, welcome to Sunday Brunch.
Wow, thank you very much, Avi.
I'm super happy to be here.
You know, it's already from our private chats.
It's one of my favorite, actually, shows.
I don't, unfortunately, join it very often live, but I do love its recordings.
And yeah, it's a really decompressing chamber.
It's relaxing.
So I'm super happy to be here. Thank you. And hi, everyone.
No, that's, that's great. You know, it's Yeah, there is a different vibe listening on the live stream versus the recording. I think one of the advantages with the recording, and this will come to the live stream as well. But with the actual recorded episode, there are the boost and stream splits that are baked directly into it.
and I know I was talking to the guys at Fountain
and they're going to bring that to the live stream as well
where if you're zapping on the live stream during a song
90% ends up going to the musician as well
I'd love to incorporate that
right now I have to either do it manually
or find some way around it for the live stream
but yeah, the recorded episode has all of that baked in
which is great
So, Aza, you've been keeping yourself very busy.
I know you do some work with Bitcoin Film Fest.
You've launched Amplified Tunes,
which it took me a while.
I saw the account engaging with me on Nostra for a while,
and I was like, what is this Amplified Tunes?
And I'd forgotten that we'd had our side channel chat
where you were, I'd forgotten the name.
I knew you were releasing something,
and I'd forgotten it was called Amplified Tunes.
And it took me a while to put two and two together on Nostra.
And then once I did, of course, I immediately followed Amplified Tunes.
So talk about that.
That's your latest project, correct?
Yeah, that's the latest project.
So for anyone who doesn't know me or maybe knows me as Shalale,
actually, which means waterfall.
So yeah, it really fits me.
It resonates with me.
I do run and co-run a few different projects.
Amplified Tunes is the latest.
There's also like creativity, education for kids, a little bit of fashion line with design, Bitcoin Film Fest, translations, quite a lot.
So I like to call myself like creative mind or creative soul with a sharp mind.
Plus waterfall really resonates.
So lots of energy.
So yeah, Amplified Tunes is something that probably comes from my heart directly.
I do have a lot of, or a few at least, musicians in my private circle.
And I know their pain.
On the other hand, yeah, I see and follow, again, a couple of interesting projects that,
thanks to RSS and Nostra and Bitcoin Lightning, are helping independent music industry.
And it's actually super empowering to see these things happening.
So I just decided to do something slightly different.
I mean, not like maybe different, but a little bit extended and expanded.
So for now, the website is not yet publicly communicated, but it's pretty complex with, of course, Nostre integration, Lightning payments.
Also like pretty complex search so people can easily find music by different type or location of an artist.
I also wanted to do it mostly, to be honest, for European scene, because you guys in the US, you are kind of like luckier, so to say, with Nashville.
And there are so many talented musicians in Europe.
And Aaron, for example, in the UK, is doing a tremendous work.
But not all of them in Europe are lucky enough.
So I just want to emphasize a little bit more here.
So it's like a hub.
I can just simply put is a hub that it's consisting of a website, so complex website.
Then there is, of course, an Oster account, quite many different types of editorials.
And then something that I'm pretty proud of, a magazine, a physical magazine with interviews, playlists,
some opinions, reviews, games, and so on and so forth.
So I think something that's been missing in a space, it will be also available online for anyone who wants to read.
So yeah, a hub, or I like to call it a node, connecting independent musicians, bands and solo with music fans.
And hopefully it will also help us to bring more music buffs into the space because I don't want us to end up with, you know, more musicians.
And there are so many talented people in the space already.
So with more music than actually the recipients.
So I want more and more people to actually explore this space.
And I know that people from my private, let's say, experiences, I know they are really angry with Spotify and Amazon and Apple and whatever they are using.
But still, they think there are no alternatives, right?
So, yeah.
So is the website live?
How's it the Amplified Tunes?
Yeah, the website is live.
I just didn't publicly show it yet to anyone.
but we can later link
like put the link
yeah
I'm not hiding anything it's just like
it's pretty complex and I'm doing everything alone
so I prefer to test a couple of things
there are I think 30 or
40 musicians
already listed different playlists
and so on so I just didn't want to you know
throw it into the space and then
get the hate from people
or too many comments but I think
overall it should work pretty well on mobile
as well
of course if somebody finds some bug
please don't be
too critical or too angry
just point out that something
doesn't work as I said not an excuse
but I'm building it all
by myself I shared it though
with the musicians that are listed in there
most of them I'm in touch
with them and yeah the feedback so far
was very positive
some of them they also have pretty cool ideas
for the future how to even expand the project
so yeah let's see how it goes
weekend later at the link as i said and the magazine as well soon yeah absolutely the reason
i asked is i want to include it in the show notes so anyone looking for amplified tunes
if you look at the if you check out the episode on fountain or on on your on whatever podcasting
app you use you'll see it in the show notes the link to that i'll link the nostre profile
of for amplified tunes and then any other links that come up in our conversation but but yeah i
I mean, look, another node in the culture.
That's certainly really welcome, Azaz.
I'm glad you're doing this.
And the physical magazine, any thoughts on when the first edition will be out?
I mean, the first edition, I already have the physical copy.
So it's not the first magazine I produced ever in my life.
So I know what can go wrong.
That's why I always have test print.
And I'm also very close to be a perfectionist when it comes to design.
So I already see some small stuff that I want to correct.
So I already have the physical copies.
They are, in theory, ready for people to enjoy.
But I want to make it even more perfect.
So probably around two weeks from now on, I will start the distribution.
So, for example, if somebody is interested in any way, it will be available online always.
still I need to decide whether we are just collecting donations as zaps and then because
you know also the idea behind this project is I'm not doing it for myself I don't even like
officially announce it as me as a creator or founder of it I'm just doing it for the entire
ecosystem right so if somebody so I need to decide whether I'm just collecting zaps and then trying
similarly to your show redistribute these zaps with a mentioned artist featured artist or maybe
I will somehow put some kind of wall or I don't know how to name it, some kind of like a layer that you need to, I don't know, zap like a specific amount, like very low, let's say symbolic.
And then it enables you to read it online.
I still need to think about it.
Of course, the physical copy, because it's a really nice quality, you know, print.
I will offer it as a gift to the musicians that agreed to work with me for the first issue.
and then the rest probably I will try to sell as well.
So let's see how it goes.
But yeah, a long story short, sorry for circling around.
It should be available in a few weeks.
But if somebody wants to even have screenshots
or whatever, pictures or just see the raw files,
I'm also fine with sharing it.
I'm not, again, hiding anything.
It's just I want it to be better or as good as it could be.
of course
it's pretty cool
personally not as a creator of it
but as a third party
looking at it
I like it
I am also happy that such a thing can exist
because I think it was a missing puzzle
and I'm not building this project
as many other projects
I think they have similar approach
I'm not building it to compete with anyone
and that's the beauty in this entire community
But just to add one extra layer, something that might be resonating with some people more than some existing space or we can all collaborate.
And I think this is the most exciting thing that we can just make it stronger and bigger and yeah, all together.
Well, that's great.
Looking forward to it.
I saw some of the mock-ups that you sent me.
Looks beautiful.
And well, congratulations on the launch.
this is a big deal
Aza, so let's jump into
your first song
I think we'll play it in the order
in which the screen is showing it
the playlist is showing it on the live stream
for our podcast listeners
you won't be able to see the live screen
the screen that I'm sharing
but it is the fountain playlist
that Aza created
for this episode
so the first one you have here
is called
The Sky is Falling, and it's by a band called RAD,
which is an acronym for Robots are Dicks, spelled D-I-X.
Just talk a little bit.
Correction. I think this is a title.
That's a problem sometimes with Fountain, how people are uploading day tracks.
Actually, the project behind this song is Zemar Red.
so yeah it a pretty interesting independent music producer slash artist I would say so yeah but the title is correct the sky is falling and the art so the and you said Zemar Red Or I don know how to pronounce it because the E after Z
so the second letter has some special character.
So I would just pronounce Zemar Red.
It's available, his entire profile is available as well
on Amplified Tunes with more information,
different links and different sample tracks.
So if somebody is interested, if this song triggered,
your listeners, they will be able to explore more about the artists as well.
Excellent. This is The Sky is Falling by Zemaret.
It's a stage in deserted times where buildings crumbling.
I hope it's lost.
Who's responsible?
Seems unreasonable.
Maybe there's time incurable.
There is no doubt.
The sky is falling.
Follow you down.
The sky is falling.
We've known it by now
When a poor man can't sit
With a rich man at his table to eat
Maybe the sky
Falling isn't such a bad thing
Who's the senator? Maybe the congressman.
Tell us special words, make it better again.
All my life I've served, relentlessly for truth.
The money that you save will never save you.
And the sky is falling.
Follow it down, the sky is falling.
We've known it by now
When a poor man can't sit
With a rich man at his table to eat
Maybe a sky
Falling isn't such a bad thing
Pour Your mercy rain down on me
Come and still my heart
Still my whole heart
Pour Your mercy rain down on me
Come and still my heart
Till my whole heart
guitar solo
Come and fill my heart up, fill my whole heart.
Oh, now mercy rain down on me.
Come and fill my heart up, fill my whole heart.
That was The Sky is Falling by Zemaret.
That was a really nice song, Azza.
And I almost had a, there are parts of it that had a meditative mantra-like quality to it.
Yeah, I have the same, like, this is one of the songs I like to listen to in the evenings, especially.
And it triggers me emotionally very much, like the title in itself, right?
The sky is falling, but also the lyrics.
So for me, for example, my relationship with music is very specific.
I know, I think you were mentioning somewhere that you are not the type who can enjoy the music, like the melody, the tunes, and then the lyrics.
I have actually both.
So my crazy brain is actually able to comprehend or get very deep into both, sometimes even very specific instruments and so on.
So for this specific song, when I think not only about the title, but the lyrics, so something very smart, the guy says,
the money that you save will never save you.
Or will the day come when the poor guy can sit at the rich man's table and eats together?
It's feeding like our reality so much.
So I feel very emotional when I listen to it because it makes me kind of like melancholic
and sad.
But on the other hand, I feel so hopeful because I know we have better form of money.
We have almost alternative reality.
And, you know, we are trying to help each other and kind of like act completely different
to all these senators and whatever the guy is also mentioning in the lyrics.
So, yeah, it's a beautiful song for me.
And it's for the listeners who are new to Zemaret.
It's a different song than his general style.
So he's, which is very funny, in a humorous way,
he is describing his genre as Allah house
because he's playing with Afro, Latin and Arabic elements.
So Allah and then house.
So it's like the electronic music overall, house and electronic.
And this one doesn't really fit that, you know, his overall, let's say, vibes.
But I really love it.
I really love the song.
The guy is also active on Nostra, having his active account.
I assume he might be a Bitcoiner as well.
We were not in touch yet.
So I hope if somebody likes the song, if you zap it, then maybe we can make the guy more active on Nostra because he will see that, yeah, what he is producing, it's not just wasted.
Oh, yeah.
I had no idea this, uh, Zemaret was on Noster.
So we'll certainly link their profile, um, to in, in the show notes as well.
If I can add something, it's all like to show off, but it might be useful, um, for your
audience.
So this is one of the things when I started building the website for Amplify Tunes, I
just thought from my private perspective, what is missing in a current ecosystem?
So for example, this, okay.
if I find a cool song on Fountain,
can I connect directly with this artist
on any Nostra client?
So I'm listing only there
the music bands and solo artists
that do have active Nostra accounts.
Of course, it's not like I refuse
completely amazing music
that is, you know, on RSS
or Wave Lake or Fountain.
I include these in specific playlists.
But if you go to APK Lite,
where you can explore more
about a band or an artist,
then you will always find the link to their nostril profile.
So you see who they are.
You can chat, send them in a DM, learn a little bit more about them.
And I think this is beautiful because we will,
that's also the beauty of the value for value ecosystem, right?
You can be closer to the creator, to the artist.
So yeah, just a side note.
No, and I think it also, on the other side of that, Aza,
is it allows for, I guess, a more authentic connection,
even from the artist as well,
or at least it promotes more authentic artists, I think.
Because, you know, one of the side effects of fiat
is celebrity and influencer culture,
not just in Bitcoin, right?
I mean, there is certainly celebrity
and influencer culture within Bitcoin
as well as we were talking about right before we started recording.
We don't have to go there.
But I think in fiat culture in general,
celebrities and influencers have assumed this mythic status.
I mean, it's completely self-created mythic status
where they feel like there should be a class divide, honestly,
for lack of a better term, between them and their audience.
and I don't think that leads to a particularly authentic
I guess art that comes out of it
and with something like this
where you listen to something on a medium like Fountain
and the artist is on Noster
you can connect with them
chances are if they're on Noster
they will likely want to talk to you
want to understand their audience
build that deeper relationship
I think it's really cool
absolutely and i think even more than like first of all i think that it's putting a lot of like
this fiat or the let's say legacy music um industry it's also putting way too much pressure
unhealthy pressure on musicians because they need to act as celebrities like it's sometimes more
important how they look with where they hang out with whom they hang up with and so on and so forth
them the music that's something that is really in their heart right they started in the first place
in most cases because they want to produce and share it with the world and their work music
not necessarily who they are as a person and how famous and how good they look and look at the past
examples Whitney Houston Amy Winehouse Michael Jackson people who got actually really destroyed
as human beings because of this celebrity kind of image
and how you have to act or not.
And this is very shallow.
So I really love that we have now a chance
to rebuild this industry
or it's actually getting rebuilt right now
in the last couple of years.
And this is beautiful.
We can have closer relationship,
shorter, less middleman.
Yeah, better experience
because it's pretty cool to, I think,
for me at least,
to be able to get to know an artist better as a person,
not as a celebrity, to understand their music.
And also having a chance to maybe chat with them is even better, right?
So I can explore their creation in a way deeper way.
Yeah, for sure.
And, you know, we have, like, if you think of the people
people who have sort of in this Valley for Value Noster podcasting 2.0 world who have kind of
come to prominence, at least their work has. You have guys like Joe Martin, you have Longhi,
I mean, several others, right? And they're on Noster, they chat with people, they build that
connection. I would add, I mean, our common and dear friend, Noah Grumman, of course, their music
is not on value for value because they have a label
and, you know, complicated situation there with the label.
But even Noah builds that, you know, she's doing,
she does her vocal trainings on Zapstream.
There's a 24-hour live stream that happens.
And, you know, every now and then she does an actual Zap.stream performance,
which also goes to YouTube as well.
And she builds that connection with her fans, right?
It's really cool.
Oh, yeah.
And even better.
she brought another great band
to the Value for Value ecosystem
Heartlight
so I met also
one of their members
in person
because I was lucky enough
to join NOAS in Denmark
last December
for this huge performance
legendary orchestra
so but yeah
Scardust is super cool
that they are at least on Noster
they do all this live stream
and I think
it's also showing a direction
for even signed musicians
right you don't need to like do everything at once but it doesn't mean you have to avoid or
you are forced to avoid this another realm so to say that you cannot touch at all this value
value for value music ecosystem so i think skardas is a great great example personally
i'm kind of like praying that they will be able to bring their music as well
you are in touch with them anyway so i'm almost sure that it's going to happen just i don't know
wet so i'll tease something here uh if and if lahav is listening he's going to kill me so i'm
i'm going to keep it very very um um obscure but there is a very decent chance also that on you know
i play music on my friday plub chain radio episodes as well there is a very good chance
that i will be playing a noah gruman song on friday which is about five days away i think
it's either the 19th or 20th of March
I don't have my calendar in front of me
but on that episode I will be playing
a Noah Grumman song
not a Scottos song but a Noah Grumman song
on Plebshane Radio
and it will be on Fountain
oh wow okay then
is it like this upcoming Friday?
yeah yeah
that's five or six days away
that will be huge
and you know the entire
band is amazing because
every single player there the drummer the guitar is like I love it This is such a good band and it fits their star because it complex like progressive rock is so complex so textured but Noah itself
is also like five singers, six
singers at once, what she can do with
her voice is incredible, so it's also
nice that maybe you will
let others to explore her
talent, her vocal talent
as a vocalist
of a band, but not necessarily
directly the band yet so it's even better cool yes for sure uh as a why don't we move into
your next song and this one i believe um is i'm looking for the playlist which i seem to have
lost out there it is it's it's a helene song and it's called unify uh i had ivy loomy on
on my show a couple of weeks back.
And she, actually, I thought she would play five of her own songs,
which is what I automatically assume
when someone who's a musician comes on.
They're going to promote their music.
But she was incredibly generous with her time
and only played three of her songs.
And she played two others from,
and one of them was a Helene song.
So that was my first interaction with Helene.
Why don't we play this first, Azan,
and then you can talk about Haleen and what this song means to you.
Sure, let's go.
This is Unify by Haleen.
Thank you.
think
oh
try
the
sign
like
the seasons
blazing
in the sky
I'm
a
Thank you.
Kind of seasons blazing
Bebating the sky
And how the spirits
Unify
A symphony of peace
Chase your wildest dreams
He fades to skies
He unifies
Unified
High the seasons
The reason
Be made in the sky
Our spirit
Unified
The symphony of peace
Chase your wildest dreams
We fade the sky
We unify
Unified
that was unify by helene and as i you know i uh one of the things i do is i try not to listen to
the songs uh ahead of the show just so that i can listen to them with fresh ears live and i did not
listened to this one and i've got to say i am very pleasantly surprised i mean i i like the
i love the helene song that uh ivy played um a couple of weeks back i think it was um greatness
and i was expecting something along those lines sort of that calm meditative mantra type
thing from like we had in the previous song i was pleasantly surprised to hear some electric
guitars in there. There was a little, a few small solos. Really cool. That's quite the range that
Helene has. Yes, I think I was expecting such a reaction from you. I'm not saying we have exactly
the same music taste, but probably similar. So I, okay, of course, I do listen to everything from
classical music through trance and then finishing with rock and progressive metal.
But I like always this greedy, rocky edge in music.
So here I try to somehow pick up the songs that will always have something with guitars
with bass.
And honestly, the song is different because it was recorded a little bit earlier.
actually I got it as a gift from the
band before they published it on Fountain
and I encouraged them to add it as well
to
the Value for Value ecosystem
I don't remember now exactly with whom they recorded
it, it wasn't some kind of collaboration
so yeah, exactly, it is slightly
different than most of the tracks available
but I love it
I love it because of the same reasons as you said
yeah, different textures
and all these guitars
I think it's a very talented band
And for anyone who is not familiar with them, they are one of the few artists who are producing the music in the old, let's say, how to say, like musical tuning, the frequencies.
So 432.
So if anyone is into the rabbit hole of Rockefeller Foundation, what's changed in 1953 and why and how actually music in theory is something great can impact us in a negative way.
Halin is one of the bands
not many of them
that is producing the music
in the previous
let's say hertz frequency
which is healthy and it's soothing
and maybe a fun fact
I can share
how the name Halin came
so it's Hans and Caitlin
and mixed together it creates
Halin
I recently interviewed the couple
very very nice people
and beautiful songs
Yeah, for sure. That's a great story there, Aza. And on that 434 hoods, I haven't gone down that rabbit hole. I'm aware of it at a very surface level. But it seems to be something that's getting more and more popular with musicians in the Noster and broader open music ecosystem.
There's a guy, Matt Finlay, and he's, I think, and he makes sort of, his music has a harder edge to it, right?
You know, and I mean that in a good way, like rock and metal type.
And he also uses the same frequency, probably worth having a, do you know anything about the topic?
on that rabbit hole.
I don't want to go too much into, so to say, conspiracy theories,
but there are even some studies, not from the experts, of course,
but there is a trace and some facts that you can find online,
even in Uncle Google, proving that actually this new frequency
is less healthy, it can create anxiety,
it can impact your consciousness, it can cause anxiety,
It can impact your consciousness or like this connection.
Many pretty unhealthy things.
I mean, at the end of the day, when you think about it, it makes sense because we are water.
We are built from water.
So frequency goes kind of through your body and your brain is also like electrical waves, right?
So if you combine different electrical signal to your brain and then consider that your body is created from mostly water, it can have bad or good impact.
So I don't trust Rockefellers and none of what they touched in this world.
So since it was their claim, their kind of idea to change the frequency, I think Rothschilds were also involved.
Another great family, of course.
We can be thankful for many things.
So, yeah, I don't want to talk too much because we could spend the entire hour or so.
There are information available online
In the internet
To dig deeper
What changed, why
And how in theory it can make you feel better or worse
It's great as you notice
That there are more and more musicians
Who are trying to tune their instruments
To this old
Musical
Let's say frequency
And I hope more and more will come
So yeah
Matt Finlay is, by the way, a sneak peek.
Not only, because this is also what I learned, I'm also in touch with him,
not only having this edgy, very punkish, rocky style,
talking about complicated topics,
but also pretty soothing and more relaxing type of music.
I think he will release it because it's some of his old songs.
He's going to release it pretty soon.
So yeah, it's also interesting, the range, you know?
like when you just think about the journey of a musician or a band and then you can see their
progress or the change in the messaging or the style the vibrations i think frankie peroni is a
great example another great example a guy who when you listen to just one album each of the song will
feel so different so it's it's just showing the talent so matt as a side note is having
wider range of of music uh when it comes to melodies lyrics and everything than what we can
currently find for example on fountain i love that matt finley i know you listen so looking forward
yeah greetings matt yes and looking forward to your range um we'll get we'll get some of that
uh played on the show as well uh as i we have a comment in uh in the live chat as you were
talking about the frequency and i suspect it's ironic uh it's meant to be positive if i have to
read between the lines but it says bring out the tinfoil yes no no um i'm not that crazy
but yeah i guess it was ironic yes uh so here i want to go back to something you said in the
beginning uh which i find uh speaking of irony uh i find it interesting you said oh you guys are so
lucky in the u.s you have this and that nashville uh maybe it's a question of the grass being greener
on the other side as a because when i look at europe and what's happening with the bitcoin
scene there i'm like oh my god those guys are so lucky it's the cypherpunk vibe there's the
cyphermunk house in london there's all the stuff that's happening in prague in czech republic
there's what's happening in Warsaw
you know Riga all of these places
Madeira Europe is where
the real innovation and the
people with the
cypherpunk ethos is actually
living and the US is getting completely
corporatized and captured
by
you know Wall Street
yeah I don't disagree
it's just what I specifically meant
is this you know music scene
kind of area
for Nashville I think Nashville has also
So if I'm not mistaken, some roots, like jazz roots,
and it's nothing new.
It's not only created for the value for value music ecosystem, right?
So you are just lucky with this specific thing.
I agree with everything else you've said.
And it's not like, I don't like comparing things in a sense,
what better than what but I can definitely say also being traveling you know different parts of the world for Bitcoin events bigger and smaller that actually Europe is quite cultural
let's say,
or focus on culture.
With, yeah,
independent films,
what we do with Bitcoin Film Fest,
music, again,
Aaron or Cybermonk,
what Cypher is doing in London,
many, many different spots,
also pretty easy to travel.
So it's great.
also Asia is developing in a different way.
Central America is growing in a different way.
Africa, incredible things.
US is more like, yeah, free market, trading,
tech, amazing tech, by the way,
but maybe less stuff about philosophy and culture,
but it doesn't mean it's bad.
So, you know, maybe we need all of these realms,
all of these spectrums.
Well, and let's not,
since we're doing the geographical tour,
let's not forget what's happening in Asuncion and Buenos Aires, right?
And other parts of Latin America, really strong Bitcoin and Nostra culture
that's blooming and blossoming there.
And then you were at the, what is the name of the Goa BitPlep Summit, right?
There's a movement happening in India as well.
Yeah, one of the, to be honest.
And so last year I did seven or eight events, like bigger ones.
So conferences, I don't like the word, but let's.
put it this way, conferences, seven or eight. So quite many in different parts of the world,
excluding meetups. And Goa was one of them. And to be honest, comparing to all the other
experiences, one of the most profound, like the quality, like we are very often mentioning
somewhere, okay, noise and signal. No, what I mean that it was signal there, it's real. Like you
felt it, you could learn, you could connect with people. It was nothing to show off. Also,
the entire structure of the event, there were like a few days of workshops, hands-on things,
you know, direct contact, and quite many people, like 100 something or 200 something,
they organized a second edition, I think, in six months after the first pretty small event.
And then you had, even if there was a stage, I was also honored to present a couple of things. It
It was not to show off who I am, why I'm great, which is unfortunately happening at other conferences, but more like to share the message and inspire you.
The topics that got presented, the ideas, I mean, you were also there online presenting your part.
It was incredible.
And the team behind it, every single guest, you know, how humble they were.
There was also Mike from El Salvador sharing his experiences from the circular economy in El Salvador.
It was incredible.
And I know they are planning another event.
So, yeah, unfortunately, I know probably not will be able to join because, as you already know, this is not a secret.
Many people know I can say you have right now two guests, not one.
I'm pregnant.
So I will probably have to cut some of my troubles in 2026.
But anyone, guys, if you want to be in a beautiful, clean, super delicious, culturally very interesting place,
if you think India is too risky, go to Goa
because this is, as I was also told,
the easiest way to explore India.
It is incredible.
The story behind the island as well
and super great event.
What the community there is doing
and they are also organizing it with,
I don't remember if from,
do you remember, Avi, from where Bichala is?
Is it from Bangladesh or?
No, no, Bangalore.
Bangalore, yes, sorry.
So they are co-organizing.
So the guys from Goa who are also focused on culture and education and like local impact, they are collaborating with a very decent project from Bangalore.
So it's more techie, cool people, a lot of focus on Nostra.
I was also running their workshops, Nostra workshops.
Great.
So if you don't have any plans yet, but you would love to explore that side of the world, really check BitPlep Summit.
Probably sooner or later they will announce when the event is happening this year.
So yeah, worth going, definitely.
You know, there are actually several really well-kept secrets in the world.
And most people don't realize this.
And I'm going to say what I'm going to say and people are going to laugh.
But it's true because I experience it every time I go.
And people know I have Indian heritage.
Every time I go back to visit family, an extended family there,
it's some of the urban centers that have expanded
I don't know about Bangalore
but there's cities like Hyderabad and others
obviously Goa as well
I don't know how much you saw when you were there
but especially in cities like Hyderabad
which have expanded outside of their old towns
into more planned modern cities
it's incredible the level of development
and infrastructure and everything else that you expect
So all the stereotypes about pollution, about cows on the road and all of that third world stuff.
None of the I mean, it's like hyper modern.
And in many ways, it makes the every time I return back to New York from from Hyderabad, I feel like I'm returning from a first world country to a third world country.
That's the level.
Yeah, there are there are quite many stand up comedians like race, let's say, in the US from, I don't know, Mexico or somewhere.
and they always make the same jokes,
especially when they are living somewhere in New York.
Like, I love the city,
but I would never like to be living there, you know?
I like to visit it.
So full respect to New Yorkers, don't be angry.
But yeah, full respect that you were able to survive there.
It's not pleasant.
So you are not the only one saying it.
But yeah, if you come back from some place,
in theory, people can label as third world.
Actually, when you come back, you feel like, come on,
you have no idea what you're talking about.
because I feel unsafe here and it's more crazy.
So I fully agree.
I mean, Goa is a very specific part of India.
I hadn't been anywhere else.
Okay, I spent two days in Mumbai.
So I can definitely confirm what you said.
It's modern, clean and stuff.
It's just different vibe because we are talking about,
and this is a different scale.
Even if, let's say, New York is crowded or Istanbul,
personally, I cannot also stay too long in that city.
So it's like different types of concrete jungles, you know.
So in India, we are talking about like really enormous amount of human crowd.
And this is a different human crowd than in Tokyo, for example.
So from this side, even many people can feel unsafe and overwhelmed, right?
But unfortunately, yeah, we should all skip, let's say, or throw all the labels to the rubbish.
And especially if you were in the Noster, let's say, Bitcoin ecosystem, think for yourself.
Don't just grab and buy whatever narratives are thrown your way.
If you don't want to explore and experience, don't do, but don't repeat the same blind kind of opinions because it's harmful and it's also harming you, your own brain, because you just close yourself to the world around.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
So, Azza, let's move on to your next song.
This one is by My Friend Jimmy and it's called Telling Lies.
Why did you pick this one?
Why? Okay.
It's an interesting band overall, My Friend Jimmy.
This song, for example, so I also love jazz.
And there is not that much of a jazz music on Fountain, unfortunately.
And I'm excluding even well-done, let's say, AI-produced jazz.
I think Marina Osak is pretty good, but there are not that many artists yet.
So please, if anyone is from the jazz, let's say, bring your tracks on Fountain or RSS feed, we will find it.
So the value for our music ecosystem.
So I chose this one because it's slightly maybe a little bit touching or reminding me of some jazzy vibes.
This is the first thing.
Second, I like the title again.
so it can kind of be you know relationship or self-talk some introspective process right so
lies is okay deception then you have regret self-doubt but all these things which are negative
uh can lead to a change to something better right so no matter if you suffer right now if you suffer
actually you can change things because you have a push you have a trigger so looking at the
craziness of the world around, I try to pick up a song that feels warm, maybe melancholic.
And it's in theory talking about something bad, but this bad thing can lead to something
positive eventually.
This is Telling Lies by my friend Jimmy.
guitar solo
As you occupy my mind
As you watch the world go by
In this world it gets so complicated
Suffocated by the time
One map with no direction
There's always chasing
There's something you can't find
And it's hard to breathe
And the walls are fading in
Where it takes two hours to see
That the girl I love was known
Good telling lies
I can see it in your eyes
When you look through mine
You take hold of my desires
You argue by my mind
As you watch the world go by
Yeah
No good at telling lies, you call me by surprise
Might take a minute but I think I'm gonna be alright
It's not the word you say that you're delivering
And since the moment that it knows it was over
For we would to fade, it's all a big illusion
Just a shadow on the cape for the fuel of my confusion
Should've known it's just a game, I guess that's my mistake
At the end of the day, you should've watched the way you're talking to me
That was Telling Lies by my friend Jimmy.
And Azza, I really liked that.
It had a bit of a reggae element to it.
I know you were saying jazz
and I could certainly hear some influences there,
but also the rhythm and the beat
had a reggae element to it.
And it just reminded me, it took me to, I don't know, one of those, you know, turquoise water tropical islands like Curaçao or Bonaire.
Just walking through those beach shacks with a drink that has a citrus fruit and an umbrella in it.
And yeah, just soaking in the sun, that kind of vibe.
a far cry from my current situation, by the way,
up in the mountains here in upstate New York
where it's below zero Celsius and there's snow outside.
Oh, still? Wow, really?
Well, you know, over here, March...
See, the funny thing with living in the Arctic tundra,
the way I do, is when you're in late January, early February,
you're like, oh, I can't wait for March.
March is the month.
But in many ways, March is actually the hardest month
Because you do get the days, you get the one or two days where it goes to 15, maybe even 20 degrees Celsius.
And then the next day it drops to below zero.
So it gives you the hope and then snatches it away.
Yeah, I think it's a common fact.
In Turkish and in Polish, there are both sayings.
They sound slightly different, but they explain kind of same stuff.
that March is like a thick soup.
You put all the ingredients,
you mix them together,
and when you eat,
you never know if you're going to grab.
So yeah, true.
But wow, I mean, I don't want to,
you know, this year, for example,
it was in a long, long, long time for me.
Such a like few months even,
I can say, okay, with small breaks,
but few months that I spent the winter in Poland
and it went even minus 20.
And it was awful.
Like still now it's plus 17, 16,
very pleasant and sunny,
but still I have this kind of like overshiver
when I think about something close to zero.
So yeah, I'm sorry for you.
But on the other hand, let's be hopeful.
It's just the beginning
and you know that it's going to be better and better.
So if not, you can play Telling Lies by my friend Jeannie
more often to go back to Curaçao or maybe Goa
because it also would fit or any other place.
It's true.
That is a very Goan vibe as well.
the beach and that sort of Portuguese vibe.
But you see, that's the beauty of music for me.
Like, again, my personal relationship with music,
as I mentioned before, I listen to many different,
like a huge range of genres.
And either I pick up a song because I am in a specific mood
or I pick up a track because I want to change my mood.
And that's the beauty.
Music can just transfer you to some memories from the past
or maybe through its tunes and vibrations,
it can put you in a completely different reality with your mind.
So it can motivate, it can soothe,
it can do so many different things.
So thank God for music.
So thank you all the musicians,
especially in the Value for Value ecosystem.
Oh, yeah.
Thank God for music indeed.
So let's go back to the music scene in Europe.
You'd mentioned Aaron of Essex.
He's a guest host occasionally on the show.
he might do one in a couple of weeks.
Another guest host,
just working through the details there.
And he's done a phenomenal job
with the new music, Nudge Unit.
I mean, Essex now, right?
South of London is turning into the,
sort of the epicenter for at least European
value for value music.
Yeah, and there is a news about bringing
the entire radio station.
This is another, like, huge.
Yeah, you know, I saw the note, Azar, and it might be a good, if you know more about it, it's probably worth talking about.
I glanced at the note and I said, I'm going to go back and read it in more detail.
I only know as much as I've seen through the note.
So I didn't, like, I've been speaking to, I've been talking to Aaron recently, but not about this specific topic.
So it was also a big surprise, but like a huge step for all of us, you know, having a radio station.
I don't know. I would expect if they are already on Nostra that they will also probably connect to RSS and maybe they will be live streaming and connect like lightning payments.
This is how I can imagine it. I don't know more, so I don't want to spread like rumors.
But already having a, let's say, legacy industry, you know, ecosystem, something like a radio station being on Nostra itself and recognizing it and talking to Aaron is a very good sign.
and it's big.
I guess you wanted to ask something else
or you wanted to, because sorry, I just interrupted.
No, no, that was a good tangent
because that was big news if it actually does materialize
and it probably has, I just didn't read the note
in great detail, that radio station being connected
to, a legacy radio station, as you said,
as being connected to Nostra.
So there is a music scene that's burgeoning and growing over there, just south of London in Essex.
But what about other places?
What's happening in places like Warsaw?
I would think Eastern Europe has that gritty vibe to it, right?
That almost dissident thing that's just, I mean, it's in the bones.
It's in the DNA of the people.
it's being dissidents against communism
against oppression
and I would think there would be
a thriving
music scene there
Honestly, I cannot speak for Warsaw
or this part of the world too much
because I don't live here permanently
I'm just coming
sometimes for a month
this year was specific, so it was a few months in a row
so hard to say
Also when I go for concerts
it's mostly like this small intimate
for example jazz music
so I have no idea
definitely you are right with the eastern
let's say post-communist blogs
the songs from 80s and 90s
they were very rebellious
super deep lyrics
yeah trying to escape the censorship
so it's pity like for English speakers
you know you will never fully
even translating it
you will never fully get the meaning
because it was touching on the reality
and as I said in a very artistic creative way
they were escaping the censorship
talking about politics
and engaging with people and motivating them.
So it was incredible.
Now, from what I sometimes just hear,
I don't know, being exposed in a shop or something
to the music played in the radio is just crap,
like everywhere else.
Same stuff.
I think AI is same, like as good as the music
that you can hear in most of the radio stations.
So hard to say.
I can say on the other hand,
which you are somehow familiar with less than more,
But yes, the Balkans, they have also different relationship with music because for them, it's part of their culture.
So they love music the same as they love drinking and eating and being with people.
They love music.
In Poland, I don't really think that this is so important in the culture.
Music is playing some specific roles during some activities, but it's not like it's, you know, running in the blood of Poles, I could say.
But maybe I'm wrong.
Like, yeah, I'm not an expert here.
So, yeah.
But I have no idea what's happening directly here.
I do have a couple of talented musicians and bands from Europe,
for example, Amplified Tunes.
And as I said, I want to help them.
And it's not only from the UK.
So I want to help them to get exposed to, you know,
reach bigger audiences.
So Halin is a good example.
They are based in Europe.
Heartlight, which Noah actually brought on Nostra as well.
They are based in Europe.
yeah there are there are really really talented people um uk is very unique and specific in the
sense there are a couple of projects who are trying to help music grow and thrive um yeah
let's see how it goes but i hope we will have more and more of this experiences that there will be
live shows like what the guys um are building now uh with the sx worldwide the live streaming is
incredible they are also bringing european artists so yeah let's see how it develops let's
see how it grows but i don't have that much yet visibility into like specific locations
more than for example what aran is doing yeah and just quick shout out since you mentioned it
as to the uh south by worldwide sx worldwide uh show that's been ongoing since thursday
of this week. That's the 12th of March.
And I believe
it's going to continue into next week. I don't know
if the music programming will continue into next
week, but there's going to be talks.
It's not like today is the last day?
Maybe for the music,
Azar, but at least the
complete dedication to music. I think then they
switch over to
conversations on
Freedom Tech and different aspects.
Mostly Nostra focused, obviously, but
really cool stuff
that they're doing so big shout out to to shadrach to bartender who was on sunday brunch last week
uh with hash power music and and others who've just put in so much into the show
yeah to all the musicians as well who who agreed you know who put the trust in it and their effort
as well because some of them they just shared their files or they were recording and streaming
live from a different location incredible like and this is the first time ever so i'm yeah
I'm really pumped
or as I wrote them,
pumpered even
to experience the four days right now
and looking forward
because that's the beauty, right?
We are not competing with each other.
If they did,
this is a signal to others
that others can also do
and maybe do it on smaller scale,
bigger scale,
but try, it worked.
Maybe you learn from experiences.
So it's just the beginning,
the first time ever,
it's just the beginning
and it's, yeah,
it was already,
it is already an incredible experience.
So today, at least for me,
it will be the last day
to tune in and later let's see how it goes which direction yeah all right so let's uh move to your
next song uh it's by a band called silver unit and has an interesting name it's called like a
eardrum as opposed to like an eardrum um what what so what is the how did you find this band
silver unit um so how did i find them uh so i did a very deep research on uh different like songs
starting from rock as a genre indie rock alternative rock pop rock whatever so this is
how i found them though they very often describe themselves as folk pop which for example this song
will prove is wrong the same as adding a not a n um and i discovered they are from germany
if I remember correctly.
They have a pretty decent amount of tracks,
very interesting ones.
But unfortunately, they are not active on Nostra.
So I thought if we will maybe play the song
and if it will trigger some people
and people will start replaying it
and they will see some traction on Thunton
and then maybe somehow they will think about
skipping Facebook or whatever they are using these days
and come to Nostra to the better place
and then connect with their fans as well.
So yeah, I found it because I was looking
for different rock, like songs from the rock genre.
And then I found them, even though they are not defined as rock in most of cases.
And then I discovered they are not on Noster yet, but their songs are on Fountain.
So I thought maybe if we play it, we can somehow bring them in.
Well, Sylvia Unit, if you're listening or the word somehow gets to you, come over to Noster.
This is Like A Airdrum by Sylvia Unit.
I'm out.
Pictures in an instant
Before we figure out what we have become
You want to see me wager
Tiny words of every inch
Truth and Force
Your power
My economy
They're loud
They're all themselves
Erase
That database
Next up
I need your help Shiver Like an eardrum Either failures and take comfort in them
Keep them at a distance
So they can dance
Draw your heart and fall
Pictures in an instant
Before we figure out what we have become
You want to see me waiting
Tiny walls on
Every intruding force
Shiver like an eardrum
Either failures
And take comfort in them
Keep them at a distance
So they can dance
Draw your heart out the north
That was Like a Eardrum by Silver Unit.
That was a really nice and smooth alternative rock song, I would say.
It doesn't feel like folk.
folk how do they describe it
folk something or folk pop
it felt more like
rock rocky right like the
crispy gritty very nice
vibe
yeah
so the unit that's a new discovery
I will check them out and if you like
that
folks who are listening do check
them out I believe they have
some songs up on
they're available
on Fountain.
Azale, go ahead.
No, I just said, yep.
That's it.
So you're obviously involved
in several other projects.
And recently there was,
you posted something about,
is it a children's book
about Bitcoin or education series?
Do you want to talk about that?
Probably referring to the video
I did for one of the projects
from Benin, West Africa.
I guess this is what you're referring to or maybe something else.
But yeah, I do run a project called Bitcoin Junior Club for, I don't know, two or three
years now.
Again, it's not very active on socials because my work is not circling about being popular
and being an influencer or whatever.
I just spent more efforts on building the website and creating resources for kids, teenagers
and parents or curating such resources.
and I collaborate offline as well,
a lot with different projects,
mostly in Africa,
like family-oriented, kids-oriented.
And in between, yes,
I created a magazine for children
because I drew a couple of characters
with different, let's say, lessons to learn from.
And in the last few years,
I noticed, I organized also as a side note,
like side events for kids and parents in person,
like for example, two years in a row
during Adopting Bitcoin in El Salvador,
and so on and so forth.
And I noticed that kids are,
they really like this character.
So I also did the magazine
because we do have books,
but we don't have something
that can be more, let's say,
engaging than a book
because kids not necessarily
always like reading,
not all of them at least.
So I did something more practical
that is combining like creativity
and a little bit of logic
and mathematics and so on and so forth,
plus these characters.
But I believe you were referring
to rather the video
because you, thank you for that,
reposted it.
It's touching on hope with Bitcoin, a very nice project from Benny, one of the few projects I collaborate with.
So altogether, what I'm trying to do is create a family friendly space from small kids, three years old already through teenagers and then ending with parents, aunties and so on.
And it's not only about Bitcoin, it's more about creativity, critical thinking, connecting with each other.
So yeah, Bitcoin is a base. But I do believe if we don't think for ourselves, Bitcoin is not going to save us. That's why I also want to show to parents that imposing or pushing the topic of Bitcoin into their kids is not directly healthy. They need to understand it by themselves. And most of the resources existing in this space are kind of like boring.
So I try to either curate less boring content or and create content on my own.
So if somebody is into extra than music or just that into the family friendly topics, yeah, homeschooling, creativity, education, including Bitcoin as well.
You can visit Bitcoin for Youth as a website, which I'm building more than, for example, posting on socials, Noster and Twitter.
Yeah.
No, it's, that's great that you're doing that.
You're involved in that.
I mean, there are, there are some efforts to educate kids and bring them into the fold, right?
There's, there's the Total Twins cartoons.
There's, would you, I don't know, would you consider Maxi's Club for kids?
It is a cartoon.
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah.
Hard to say.
I don't think she started doing it thinking about kids.
It's more like, you know, inspiration.
Let's say her inspiration is more.
And by the way, yes, it's her, not him.
She's a close friend.
If you were listening to it, ready, love and hugs.
So she was inspired by Simpsons and South Park and this kind of things,
which is not necessary directing kids.
But on the other hand, we were playing the first episode of Maxi's Club,
chapter one, episode one, last year or two years ago at Bitcoin Film Fest.
on Sunday where there were kids and teenagers.
And though there were two or three words that we could just beep,
actually, they loved it.
I was also playing it this year in El Salvador
in this Bitcoin familia space for kids,
but I had the censored version, so to say.
And kids, again, loved it.
Some of them even were asking whether it's related to the pepper frog or not.
So I would say it depends.
It depends on your sensitivity as a parent,
but probably it's not directly targeting kids.
I don't want to speak for red,
but probably it was not done with this intention.
But I, for example, found many interesting memes
that are family-friendly,
and I also published them or curated them
on Bitcoin4youth.com.
And she is working, if I can also tell something exciting,
she's working on a very, very cool visual book
for kids, for example.
I don't know when finally it will be published, but she is working for something unique, targeting kids as well.
And yeah, Tattle Twins are doing a great job.
Otherwise, there are really only few cartoons.
So I started playing on my own as well, creating the animations because I drew a lot.
And then now with AI, I can animate many of my characters.
So I started doing it as well.
So I hope there will be more and more projects coming this way
because visual content is appealing for kids.
But yeah, we are very early still.
No, for sure.
For people wondering who have ideas for cartoons
and they're wondering which AI tool would be best to use,
is that secret sauce, Azza?
or are you willing to share what the good ones are honestly i don't even remember which i was using
um it's just a tool to animate drawings so you know if you have your own because this is how i
work i have my own drawings let's say a character like i did for example that one is pretty funny
uh bringing the story of alpaca uh the forgotten story of bitcoin alpaca socks so i drew the
character um and then i just and then in different scenes and then i use the tool to animate it so
unfortunately i don't remember the name yeah um and i don't do it like every day so
but you can always people if you're interested in that either you can dm me on on master and i will
find some links for you at least from what i've used in the past or if not you can do the same
you know do your own research and just put like okay free or paint ai tool to animate drawings
because i didn't do it like ai video uh so just to be clear it's based on my drawings always
great uh we have a comment in the live stream i don't you know the problem is sometimes these uh
comments come in at different times sometimes i have to refresh the browser i'm going to assume
it came in when we were talking about Maxi's Club
and it's from TK in the live chat
who says, I like the show.
That's great. Thank you, TK.
Yeah, thank you.
I'm glad you like it.
There's a second chapter already.
I think she released it for Christmas
and it was so nice because I also have another project.
So I list some of my, let's say, wearables
on Pelabian market.
So yeah, as well.
Great, great project.
So greetings to Chief Monkey.
and Maxi's actually
because the plebeian market was included
in that episode she even used
some of my t-shirts that I have for kids
so it was for me like oh my god so sweet
and I know that she didn't do it because we are friends
she just did it because it's feet and stuff
it was so nice you know so yeah there is
a second episode as well
of Maxi's Club so two of them for now
Was the
second episode the Christmas special?
Yes it was the Christmas special
That is not for kids I saw that one
No, no, no, no, no.
But for example, speaking just if I can add something, you know, I do have and I can name them my friends.
I do have most Bitcoiner kids as my friends.
And I'm saying friends in a sense I can learn from them a lot and get inspired and sometimes just rethink my own, you know, publish mentality still.
So very often it's the same kind of feedback from them.
we want to impose what we find attractive on them.
Like if we love Bitcoin books or podcasts,
they should do the same,
but they are missing this entire variety
and always hearing about Bitcoin,
better form of money.
It's so overwhelming for them
that sometimes it's just discouraging them.
So if anyone is interested in doing something for kids,
like kids friendly,
if you have an idea
or if you know people who have an idea,
but you are missing collaboration
or maybe some kick,
also please contact me
because this is one of the topics close to my heart.
Kids are future adults,
and we shouldn't discourage them with the topic of Bitcoin.
We should actually show them why it's a different form of money,
but in a way they understand so that they become a sovereign generation
that will build a sovereign world,
not just the replica of what we have right now.
Absolutely.
And I think one way of doing it is just meeting the kids where they are.
Obviously, it depends on the age, right?
maybe the teenagers, you can start approaching, the older teenagers especially, you can start
approaching them with some of the more complicated topics. But for the younger ones, it has to be
play, I think. And on that note, Azad, I'm sure you know Nathan Day and his son. I don't think I
can say his son's name on air. I don't think that's public. But his son does build games,
right almost uh yeah um yeah yeah amazing i mean there are a couple of uh kiddos that are let's say
public publicly known doing great stuff um and also you know that another thing when you generally spend some time with mostly homeschooled kids or not only homeschooled kids but kids who are from this independent freedom kind of oriented families not to
call everyone Bitcoiner, it's such a big gap.
They are independent.
They are direct.
They are curious.
And like you have a feeling they are way more intelligent than their average, you know,
peer, like the age group, right?
And they are building and doing things.
they are also not shy but not arrogant at the same time so it's incredible so i want to see
more kids like that because there is not a stupid kid born it's just if we sometimes sorry for such
a vocabulary but if we sometimes say that okay this kid is not very smart it's not like this
kid was born stupid it's just the reality is making this kid like making it you know more
oppressed and close and and shy and acting in a silly way so yeah um as a parent who is stupid
for whatever reason
and they poured their stupidity
into the child.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there are,
there is also Nini from the UK,
Samantha Derval,
but she's older,
kids of Daniel.
I do quite many of them.
And also speaking of the projects,
I collaborate with African communities,
at least three countries in Africa
because it's a huge continent.
The kids there as well,
you know, building,
oh yeah, another project
from El Salvador.
So yeah, shout out to
notes nation um they are teenagers actually uh but they are building notes and installing notes
at schools i mean incredible stuff incredible stuff really so yeah and remember kids are
future adults so don't don't think that they don't know stuff actually they know way more than
us sometimes yeah we can get back to the topic again because i think it's an important one
but let's listen to the last song that you have uh this one is from a band that was recently on
boarded into the open music space.
And in fact, I played one of their songs
on
Plep Chain Radio maybe two or three
weeks ago.
Why don't we play it, Azan, and then we can talk a little
bit about the band.
This is
Nothing Left to Say by
Jaded Jester.
All the pain
I soaked up
Loving you
Instead of me to describe
Don't even know where you are
Likely stuck
In your ways
So I look back and I find
That I can leave you behind
Lock that door
Loose the key
Cause I've got
Nothing left to say
Loop the other way
I'm not gonna pay
All your power gains
Dancing with my brain
You can't keep the shame
It's time, crowded space
No surprise, you take no blame
There's no blood
Big enough to keep me from
Choosing myself
But no one knows who you are
The way you take it too far
Justified in your rage
Thing is I know I'm good here
Tell me I'm too so far where
No goodbyes
Disengage cause I've got
Nothing left to say
Look the other way
I'm not gonna play
All your power gains
Basing with my brain
You can't keep the shame
guitar solo
All your power gains
Dancing with my brain
You can't keep the shame
Nothing left to say
Look the other way
I'm not gonna play
All your power gains
Dancing with my brain
You can't keep the shame
That was Nothing Left to Say by Jaded Jester.
I love that high energy vibe that this band has.
It's great.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I cannot really wait when they will release more songs.
I think on YouTube they have one more.
On Fountain is only this one.
So here again, once again, like big thanks to Aaron,
because thanks to him, we can enjoy their music right now here.
I mean, they would do what they are doing,
but he just brought them to this unchained, let's say, vibrations.
So yeah, I cannot really wait because, you know,
when I listen to this song, I feel like I'm 15 again.
So there is this saying that the best time machine is actually music, right?
Or a specific song because it can move you back
and to different moments of time in your life.
So when I hear this, I feel like I'm 15 again.
So, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is that teenage energy that it brings out.
That, yeah, for sure.
I mean, I was not an easy teenager, let me put it this way.
Very rebellious.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
We have Noah and Lahav in the chat.
Thank you for the zaps.
Hi.
I messaged in the chat just now
but they missed their shout out
so they're going to have to listen to the episode
when it's out
either today or tomorrow
maybe that was meant to be
they can enjoy the songs before
like we were playing before
yeah
you know one of the interesting things
there's Jaded Jester, there's Hear My Roar
and there's in the US side
There's Ainsley, there's Sarah Jade, obviously Ivy Lumi, several others.
What I, you know, with Bitcoin on the tech side, right?
Even Nostra to a large extent on the tech side.
It tends to be so male dominated.
I think what's very interesting and nice to see on the value for value music side is it seems to be a nice balance.
There are a lot of female fronted bands like there's Hear My Raw, there's this one.
and several others actually that I've been playing on the show.
It's been an equal mix of male and female-fronted bands.
Well, here we have even a perfect example of,
it's similar to Skardust, right?
You have, even within the band, the mix in itself,
it's not only like female bands or only male bands,
what we can refer to if somebody remembers 90s,
boys' bands and girls' bands only.
So now we have a healthy mix as well, right?
But also there are many incredible solo artists.
So yeah, you mentioned Evie.
If you are still with us, Evie also hugs to you.
But there are others as well, talented.
And you feel when you hear their songs, you feel that it's their life.
It's a part of their life that they are trying to release some or share with us, not release,
but share with us some piece of themselves and help our lives through their music as well.
And it's incredible.
So yeah.
yeah so uh as we were talking about uh kids content and kids being future adults well is
what else are you seeing on on that front to bring kids into the fold i know there were
the hrf if i'm not mistaken um had some they had some funding aside for this is more for uh
late high school, early college.
So like we're talking about 17 to 20 year olds.
So maybe young adults more than kids.
They had some educational initiative for them.
Anything else that you're seeing?
I mean, overall, I would say that this is my personal approach,
but to whoever I talk to, whether it's a parent
or somebody somehow involved in the family-friendly,
you know, Bitcoin-oriented projects.
So same ideas, like we don't necessarily need Bitcoin only topic.
We just need something that will inspire these kids to be together, to create relationships and to start using their own talents.
So creativity, logic, there is this saying that kids, they don't like math.
Yeah, they don't like math at school, but it doesn't mean they don't like numbers overall.
So it's a completely wrong impression.
So overall, we need bigger variety of content.
And not only from our side as, so to say, quote unquote, Bitcoiners.
Oh, everything has to be about Bitcoin.
No, it can just bring the topic in a very smooth way.
If the kid is interested, they are like a sponge.
They will be asking and digging deeper.
So that's not only my opinion, but also quite many different people that I've met.
So we need more variety of content.
And also in itself, to read, to listen to.
Also like songs, for example, right?
A while ago, I started creating, unfortunately, here with AI, please don't stall me, but some songs for kids.
And then I stopped because it's silly and it doesn't have this real vibe.
But maybe somebody could create a playlist or a podcast.
Shamori is doing, but it's more like for families, not kids.
So, yeah, we are just missing content.
But not to blame anyone because we are very early.
and also there are some parents that they don't want to expose their kids to Bitcoin at all.
That's why, actually, we need more stuff that is for critical thinkers, creativity,
and kind of building relationships.
So everything that is opposite to the fiat culture and fiat world,
so that the kids can play, have fun, sharpen their skills.
Yeah, a place to be from Madeira is an incredible initiative as well.
There are many of them, actually.
If you start digging, there are many of them.
Also targeting smaller kids.
At the end of the day, it's all about making these kids healthier and happier so that they can release their talents and their passions.
And they will eventually become, you know, healthier, mentally healthier and more independent human beings, adults.
Yeah, for sure.
So also the one topic we haven't actually talked about, and we don't have to spend too much time on this because there's still one more song to play.
You know, we're getting close to the end here.
But is the Bitcoin Film Fest.
Maybe real quick, what can we look forward to? I know that's still a few months away. Any movies or things top of mind for you that people can look forward to?
Yeah, first of all, everyone, please do your best to come to Warsaw, the capital of Poland, 4th to 7th of June. So yeah, not that far actually from now. So speaking of non-conferences, this is not a conference. This is a festival. It's a cultural event. So you have mostly screenings, movies, everything around like visual content, but also concerts and writers and books.
So yeah, unique experience.
Fourth time already.
When it comes to title, so overall, I hope personally that finally we will be able to screen Bitcoin Executor.
Because it's a very good movie.
It's fiction.
It's engaging.
Super professional.
It was done in six years, if I remember correctly.
But there is always something happening in the last moment.
We're supposed to already screen it last year that we cannot.
So I hope it will happen this year.
it is
officially
unofficially
on the list
is one of the
titles
otherwise
yeah there
will be a
couple of
other
documentaries
and shorts once again different bitcoin ads which is also fun to watch Experimental shorts and AI as well Yeah I think documentaries I already mentioned
So, yeah, the program looks very interesting.
There will be premieres.
And then, as always, the rabbits for the best movies, including the audience choice.
So, a lot to go through, a lot to experience.
Workshops as well.
So actually Noah and Lahav were with us last year and they were, you see, not being a filmmakers, but they presented how they created a very professional video clip for one of their songs.
So even this kind of stuff, if somebody is more into musicals.
Well, Lahav is a filmmaker.
Sorry to interrupt.
Lahav is a filmmaker.
Yeah, but they were presenting it as Cardos, so as a music band.
Now, since we are listening to music and mostly we were talking about music, if somebody is not into the cinema, you can even experience these kind of things. So not necessarily think about movies and films only. But yeah, titles, I cannot speak for like, I cannot say directly how many titles and exactly which titles. But yeah, we are hoping for the Bitcoin Executor, Hummingbird, I think will be there. But overall, decent, decent lineup.
So, yeah, two full days in the cinema and four to seven, including parties, live music and connecting with, yeah, with interesting people from all over the world.
Not a huge event, but worth joining.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I was there for the first year.
That happened to coincide with the halving party.
Yeah.
I think we, no, I met you before that.
I met you in Madeira a month or two before that.
But yeah, we hung out there and that was fun.
A fantastic event, actually.
The Halving Party and the Film Fest of 2024.
So yeah, check it out, folks.
In Warsaw, early June of this year.
So I typically play one song after the guest songs are played.
And I try to find a curveball, something that's completely different from what was played.
A little surprise.
And unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a surprise.
And maybe that in itself is a surprise that my song fits in very nicely with what we played.
This is a band from the UK.
It's the Abbott Brothers, Nathan and Nolan and a couple of others.
It's called the 54 Plates.
And the interesting thing is if you listen to the Abbott Brothers,
their solo music has a very different vibe from their band, the 54 Plates,
which has this almost like a Seattle,
or at least 90s alt-rock grunge kind of vibe to it.
So this is one of their songs from their album.
This is Killer by The 54 Plates.
We can't beat the system
Till we defeat the man
Getting angry at ourselves
Pushing hate makes me the world
More pressure than a full cocaine
You're pushing in, you're pushing out
You take the pain, you scream and shout
We're lost out there
I've been wondering for days
In a world that's so afraid
With puppets on a string inside
They're bitter
And life is life
You've dealt the time there
We've been a fight for big
And you've been lost
To carry out through our feet
Now babe, I don't buy the love
I'm a runaway train of fame
This is drama, this is freedom
This is care
We won't be their system
Till they free our minds
They'll eat meat tossers to the side
They're giving hope to break our pride
We're stronger in those
Lots of numbers
And life is life
They know the cause and we're paying the price for me
And you, by the life is the money I fool I feel
Nobody, by the life I'm a runaway train
I feel this is drama, this is freedom
This is killer
Like, it's the killer of me
Like, it's the killer
I don't know.
By the last time I run away, train that field.
This is drama.
This is freedom.
This is killer.
That was Killer by 54 Plates.
Azra, have you heard this band before?
Yes.
I mean, not like all of their songs, but this song, yes.
It's actually in one of my private playlists.
Favorite.
So thanks for choosing it.
Yeah, amazing. Again, it brings me back when I was a teenager, circling around Metallica and punk and a little bit of rock.
So exploring that areas, being more and more rebellious, more and more questioning myself and the world around.
So amazing. And just a side note, maybe, you know, recently I had a chat with a friend and I tried to show her what I'm working on.
And I mentioned the independent music industry.
She's also kind of like familiar with the independent film industry from the Bitcoin Film Fest.
And she was actually expecting like really starting, you know, non-professional kind of musicians.
And then she listened to a couple of songs and she was like, fuck, this is so good.
Where are these people have been?
Why I didn't hear any of it before.
So, yeah, really good vibes.
It is remarkable, isn't it?
That you have such amazing music here.
I mean, discovery of independent music is something that needs to be solved, curation and discovery.
And I think there is work happening on that.
Because, you know, you can have censorship-free distribution, value for value, all of that stuff.
But then how does someone actually find the music?
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, great that we already have platforms like Fountain, Wave Lake, and Waymore.
also like a new client on Nostria
in itself, Nostria, it's adding so
many different functionalities to explore
music and video clips
yeah, there is also another
new client with S, I forgot
directly related to music, there are a couple
of kind of like
equivalents of YouTube, though of course
they are not yet rich in content
but we are just starting and
and I noticed that if
a newbie, somebody who is enslaved
you know, and still like using only Spotify
and on one side either complaining on fees
or on the other side on the ads all the time
and disturbing the experience.
If they just even check Fountain
and they see how easy and smooth it is
and that they can support the musician or the song
and they don't need to pay for that.
There are no ads and there is so much of good music.
It's not some kind of underground whatever niche only.
There are really talented musicians
being in a space for 10, 15, 20 years even.
It's good because from mouth to mouth
it can go further and further.
Of course, we would need something
that will help it scale faster than that.
But yeah, I'm hopeful.
And I know looking at the last,
even what, four or five years of Nostra itself,
when I joined, there was almost nothing.
It was just like social media.
I really don't like when people just think
of Nostra as social media and other protocol,
but it was almost nothing and it was so buggy.
And now we have literally almost every tool
that exists on the internet
and we are going further and further
and adding more spaces, more areas
and expanding and building and improving.
So yes, the future is bright.
Yeah, for sure.
So Azar, anything else you want to talk about?
We covered quite a bit of ground today.
Anything you think we might have missed?
No, I think it's all good.
I also don't want now to sound like a broken record
referring to the music.
so if anyone has some questions
or suggestions they can always write a comment
or reach out to
any of us or both of us
so we can discuss
or maybe find a topic for another
meeting
so thank you very much for that
I really enjoyed listening to these songs
with all of you guys
whoever is listening to us live
and who will later check
the recording
it was not an easy task for me to build this playlist
because I could easily do
like 50 or 100 songs but it was a pleasure so yeah happy sunday uh to you avi thank you for the
invitation and yeah now thank you absolutely thank you as i make sure folks that you uh check out
uh amplified tunes i'm gonna have everything uh and bitcoin junior club as well i'll have all of
those linked in the show notes uh so if you're listening to the podcast just head on over to the
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