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Welcome to Pleb Chain Radio, a live show brought to you by Plebs for Plebs, which focuses on the intersection of Nostra and Bitcoin protocols.

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Join QW and Avi as they run down the weekly news and developments, breaking down the current thing and the future frontier with the foundation of decentralization, the builders, thinkers, doers and plebs.

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All right, we are live.

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Welcome, gentle plebs, to episode 111 of Pleb Chain Radio.

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Today is Friday, the 9th of May, and it is 5.04 p.m. on the east coast of the United States at the time of recording.

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We have what is now becoming an annual tradition, QW, a Pleb Chain Radio Bitcoin Film Fest episode.

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As it should be, Avi, as it should be.

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as it absolutely should be,

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we have Tomek and Azar from the Bitcoin Film Fest

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joining us to talk about...

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Hey, Tomek,

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to talk about all the exciting things in store

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in Warsaw later this month.

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And folks, a reminder,

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if you are listening to the show on Apple or Spotify,

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first of all, thank you for listening,

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but I would urge you to hit pause and switch over to the Fountain Podcasting app,

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where you can earn some sats and support the value-for-value revolution as you listen.

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This show is streamed live on zap.stream and any other Nostra client that supports streaming such as Amethyst and Nostra.

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And QW, you know there is no second best Bitcoin conference because the best is BTC Prague happening from June 19th to June 21st of this year, of course.

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and you, our dear

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gentle pleb listeners

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can save some sats

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10% actually

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by using the discount code

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NOSTR

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you can get the tickets at

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btcprog.com

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I believe it's .com

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on the btcprog website

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and for our meme readout today

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it is a single frame meme

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another

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Condalorian classic

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and the first one

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There are two images in that single frame.

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The first image is that of a chicken,

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and the caption reads,

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I'll spend Bitcoin when it's more widely accepted.

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And the second image is an egg,

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where the caption reads,

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We'll accept Bitcoin when it's more widely spent.

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And needless to say, QW, NOSTA fixes this.

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But speaking of NOSTA and speaking of Bitcoin,

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You have been paying attention to both Bitcoin and Nostoculture in the last week.

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What have you noticed?

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Wow.

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May is going to be a big month.

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And we kind of highlighted that last couple, well, in the last, let's say, four shows,

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especially last week with Nostvegas.

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But one of the things I am looking forward to is what we talked about last week,

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that shredder live from First Avenue in Minneapolis. That's a huge sellout show,

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but it's going to be the first one sellout show that's not Noster-based plebs. It's going to be

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via Toonster, so live on Toonster. So Noster is going to get its first taste of just really a

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sellout show and see what we can actually accomplish with something like that. And that's

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a week from today, next Friday, the 16th. It's 10 p.m. Eastern time. So my time, 7 p.m. I like

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that better than 10 p.m. The Vegas Nostrid SideQuest Bitcoin Golf Championship. Avi,

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I did confirm that I'm going to be speaking at that. I'm going to be on stage with Heather Larson,

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a friend of the show, and also April James. We're going to be talking for 90 minutes.

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uh so from 12 the the actual event uh the golfers uh if you're if you see there's two different sides

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of the ticket ticketing you can get you can actually participate in the golf scramble that

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starts at eight but if you're just a regular pleb that doesn't want to haul around their clubs

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maybe you know you're just flying in for a couple days and you don't want to have that extra baggage

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or maybe you don't golf.

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11 a.m. to 5 p.m., we're having a full event.

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So I'll be on stage.

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I've heard QW, J.D. Vance and Donald Trump Jr. are avid golfers.

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So I'm saying there's a chance, QW.

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Maybe even the new Pope will be there, you know,

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eating some deep dish pizza.

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We'll see.

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But, yeah, I'll be on stage.

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It's kind of odd doing 90 minutes on stage,

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But I'm not scared.

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But then after that, there'll be the live music and everything.

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And that's the Bahá'í Golf Course.

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I think that's how you say it.

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I don't know.

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Then, of course, the Las Vegas, which we spoke about from 7 p.m. to 1 p.m.

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Wednesday, the 28th, that we all scream.

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And then Avi, there's one other event that I didn't even write down.

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I just remember the event with Richard Greaser and Rod Palmer, friends of the show, the Bugle and the 21 Media.

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It's about 300 feet away from the event.

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I'm going to put the link in the show notes.

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I don't know the name of the venue, but essentially that starts at, I believe, 7 p.m. as well.

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So it's something where you can go to both events and they're within 300 feet of each other.

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And they're both pretty much value for value communities, you know, because I know Bugle's so heavy on Fountain.

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So that's kind of a neat deal.

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If I was there Wednesday, I would absolutely go to both of them.

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Nostrebama, July 14th through the 17th.

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So we'll highlight that more when we get towards July.

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As far as more culture, not just the events, I'm laughing at the Bitcoin strategic arms race of the states.

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Apparently, my state, Avi, Arizona, was the first or second Bitcoin strategic reserve.

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So they said the headlines.

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But if you actually look at what it says, do you know the unclaimed property?

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Yes.

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New York, yes.

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that. Essentially, let's say I have my Bitcoin in custody at Coinbase and I disappear.

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After three years, if I don't respond, they can just move my Bitcoin from Coinbase to Arizona's

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strategic reserve. So it's something that I wouldn't even call that a strategic reserve.

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I just think it's another tool for the state to maybe take away your Bitcoin.

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And on top of that, it's really just more of an advertisement for self-custody, in my opinion.

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So I think the NGU crowd, the government state politician crowd that seems to be taking over the socials on at least the Bitcoin Twitter side, they're pumping it and it's a nothing burger.

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So I haven't looked into other states because I don't live there, but coming from an Arizonan, it's kind of a joke to me.

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The final thing, Avi, I have a bid-axe arriving today.

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I'm going to be an actual miner.

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Did you know that?

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No, I did not.

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Congratulations.

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Yeah, I'm doing my part.

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Insert the gif.

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Upendo.

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Gif.

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I will never learn.

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The upendo, you know, we talked about the block party.

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We just introduced charities.

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I say we because I'm part of the community, but we just introduced charities.

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So Bitcoin Arusha and Bitcoin Isla.

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So it's Isla Mujeres.

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So I'll just call it Isla, Bitcoin Isla.

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Both of those are the chosen charities.

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And, you know, shout out Arusha for my buddy, Man Like Quex.

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I know he might even clip that into a song soon.

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But that's it for the Culture's Corner.

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Avi, who was the top zapper?

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QW, it was someone, well, certainly friend of the show.

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Phantom Power Music.

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And I think, QW, it is only appropriate if you do the honors.

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It is because I'm going to be hanging with them a lot at that Bitcoin Golf Championship.

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So here we go.

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Phantom Power Music.

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The only place where music meets money isn't just a tagline.

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It's practically tattooed on the homepage next to a pixelated Bitcoin doing a mic drop.

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Jim Costello and his fearless crew have taken every blockchain buzzword in the book,

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brewed them into a smoothie of artist empowerment, and served it up with enough neon flair to make your old Spotify playlist with weep and envy.

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Soundstack is part of the live show.

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It's part live show, part social experiment, part open source development powwow.

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And 100% guaranteed to leave your fans wondering if they just witnessed a concert or a TED Talk with less coffee.

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But hey, at least when the music stops, you can pay your artist directly in sats because nothing says artistic freedom like pricing your next single in fractions of cents and hoping your grandma can figure out the lightning network.

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In short, phantom power music is like the quirky best friend who shows up to a karaoke night in a full LED suit screaming, let's reinvent the music industry.

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It might seem a tad over the top, but you can't deny it's a showstopper.

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Bravo, Jim Costello.

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Bravo, the Costello family.

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Bravo, all the people that are part of Phantom Power Music.

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We really appreciate you keep blowing our minds

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and maybe simplifying the checkout process for Grandma.

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So I really appreciate you guys.

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Keep the message going.

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Value for value works.

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Let's just get the scale.

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Love it.

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Yes, we genuinely appreciate your support and generosity and your friendship, I should say.

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And QW, for our sermon today, before we dive into the guest segment,

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we're talking about driving adoption through the stories we tell.

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Bitcoin has always been a narrative revolution disguised as code.

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White paper, the cypherpunk lore, pizza day legends, every block is a paragraph in the

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world's most relentless epic.

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But code alone rarely converts the skeptic It the campfire myth that slips past the prefrontal cortex and shakes hands with the limbic system People don adopt protocols first they fall in love with protagonists

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Early adopters heard the white paper hymn, but most folks need characters first. A pizza day

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dreamer, a mother in a small country crushed by the cost of remittance, a Warsaw street

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vendor swapping Zwarte for sats.

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When their arcs land, the brain releases a neurochemical op-return which says, I belong

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in this plot.

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That's the sly roundabout orange pill, conviction smuggled inside catharsis.

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And that's why, from the 22nd to the 25th of May, in Warsaw's Kinoteca, the Bitcoin Film Fest is loading its reels with rebellion.

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Each documentary, drama, and animated rabbit hole is a stealth wallet, zipping conviction straight into the fields of anyone still clasped within the cold claw of fiat.

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You come for the plot, you leave checking block heights.

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I don't even want to respond. I think you crushed it.

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What was that?

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the chat's like who wrote that

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yeah actually I have the same thing

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I was actually waiting for you Avi just to start

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saying that it's your pitching or some kind of script

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for a new film because it could be

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Avi you should literally be an author

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have you ever thought about being one?

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I might get down to writing a book one day

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one more

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one more yes i'm actually looking at your book right now just trying to reach it with my side

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excellent well well welcome both of you welcome azar and welcome tomac welcome back tomac i think

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for the third time yeah hello tomac's a guy he's vying for my spot 20 something but you see numbers

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numbers don't lie so you are here like number go up and it's a third edition of the festival

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as a trilogy and it will be way better than some movies every year i'm like avi avi this is time

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let's visit blockchain radio thank you guys pcr will always be a home

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hello nostril chatting on zap stream 11 viewers he there hello

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all right so here's a burning question um well we'll start with you tomic i think it's more this

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question will be more fun if you answer it. But we'll see if Azar has something

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to say as well. A big Hollywood producer

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approaches the Bitcoin Film Fest with a million

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dollar sponsorship offer for the next edition.

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But there is one condition, Tomek. For every

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Bitcoin movie you show at that Film Fest, you have to

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screen a fiat movie. What would you do?

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is tarantino fiat movie i would show some tarantino

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tarantino is i would say is is a bitcoin movie i mean especially something like pulp fiction

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um true romance once upon a time in hollywood there is heart reality right

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oh yeah i think this is a very tricky question because it depends what you

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label as a fiat movie?

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Is it the same what you label

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as a Bitcoin movie?

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scale of titles.

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It was a little bit tricky question.

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It's not going to be the Matrix.

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We would take this million

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and we would convert it to Satoshi's

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and we would play Tarantino.

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That's what we would do.

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so there's a gray area there abby gray fiat area and also a spoiler there might be some bitcoiners

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in the hollywood as well so you know like i i get the point of the question but it's a little bit

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blurry so not that easy to what would you do there are too many unknowns for each blockchain radio

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episode you need to do one fiat chain radio episode sponsored by pfizer every time

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um obvi that that brings me to i we had we had a kind of a quick conversation today about bitcoin

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movies and whatnot or a lot of them seem to be documentaries but uh you know maybe these you

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know there are fiat movies that are technically bitcoin movies um and that's something we wanted

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to see coming up in the future kind of uh doesn't explicitly say bitcoin but uh it really is a

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bitcoin movie oh definitely guys i think we even published a couple of articles about it i mean

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just like truman show um and matrix one of the most famous i mean they were all mass titles like

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super popular titles right and they are pretty close to the bitcoin ethos and i think they are

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like very classy, well-known, used as well in the Bitcoin culture.

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So that's why this is a tricky, very tricky question.

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When I say like, what's a Bitcoin movie?

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What's a fiat movie?

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The same, it's happening already.

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I think Tomek can confirm within this whole, as we sometimes call it,

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Binema space, more and more productions are not necessary.

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And I think, Avi, you might remember from last edition,

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because you were with us in person, there was also the gods of their own religion.

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It was not mentioning it even once or Jessica Solcher's film, Death Athletic, not even once Bitcoin, but it is based and very close to the Bitcoiners values and the point of view and how we act, how we see the world and how we want to make the world in the future.

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So this is also like a very vague, so to say, border.

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And I think it's more about who is doing it and what's the purpose, like what's the, let's say, what's the vision and the mission of some specific production.

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And I, to be honest, hope that we will have more and more of this creative, not directly talking about Bitcoin films, animations, comedies, horrors, maybe even.

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because this is a very broad topic and it's more about just yeah spreading the message

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which is more important than just directly repeating bitcoin bitcoin and bitcoin of course

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there will be a niche as well maybe for some specific topics alana is a great example right

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like mining or maybe some technical kind of stuff or whatever but yeah i hope that we will have more

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diversity and the same with art not necessarily always repeating directly bitcoin and it's it is

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interesting, Azar, if you look at the

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evolution of Bitcoin art,

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it started with the Bitcoin

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logo in different colors

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and whatnot, right?

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Or inserting the Bitcoin logo into

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something. It's very in-your-face.

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But I think... It still is.

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Come on. This is still the case.

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Well, you

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have folks like

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Rebel Money Art, right?

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Where it's more

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metaphorical. And there... Oh, Mere One.

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Mere One is a fantastic

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example i don't know if you folks are familiar familiar with him but how do you spell it m-e-a-r-o-n-e

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he's not on nostril unfortunately but man i'm polish i cannot like yeah i can show like personally

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we have different letters i'm sorry but i know what you mean avi and i agree like there are some

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specific artists i think a great example i know when person is flaw flaw montoya she she's running

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with rebel actually this um aof initiative or collective and she's sometimes saying um that

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this like healthy propaganda so her work is more about like freedom uh it's like permissionist art

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but not necessary um showing bitcoin there might be some connections or some tiny things if you know

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you know like easter eggs so to say but not necessary it's like using the logo or even like

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referring just now to to like directly talk about your show um because i'm also a big fan as card

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you had them recently right their video clip rip um they are one of our special guests by the way

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at this edition um so it's also like not necessarily directly addressing um bitcoiners

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but it's trying to kind of sell the message or trigger uh some interest curiosity and in between

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who knows and who understands, who will notice the white paper in their videoclip or, you know,

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like the reference of Satoshi or whatever, they will know. So I think it's a very nice direction

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and it might be less tiring for many people, including Bitcoiners.

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You mentioned Scardust and you're just talking about inserting, you know, making Bitcoin art

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without in your face Bitcoin, but speaking more through metaphor and these sort of higher order,

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appealing to higher order senses

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than just the in-your-face stuff.

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And they talked about that.

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A lot of their music has themes.

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They were talking about their song Under,

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which is talking about breaking the chains.

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And they were also talking about their future music.

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It just so happened that their song Rip,

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the lyrics, they fit so nicely with Satoshi's,

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sort of the fictitious story of Satoshi leaving,

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that they did that.

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But going forward, it's unlikely

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that they will have in your face Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, right?

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But rather appealing more to the ideals of Bitcoin.

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Yeah, and coming back to the topic of, I would say,

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the closest topic to Bitcoin Film Fest,

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though, just one correction,

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it's not only Kinoteca when it comes to the festival,

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or maybe just a side note, not correction, sorry.

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You were not wrong.

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It's just like a side note for the listeners.

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Bitcoin Film Fest is not happening only in Kinoteca,

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though I personally believe this is one of the most beautiful

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and unique cinemas probably ever.

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it's not multiplex it's yeah very very unique location with a beautiful story behind but we

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have more spots because we are also having live shows and comedy stand-up this year and concerts

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and dj sets and even vj which is like visuals and music so so many different spots all of them

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in a very convenient close distance distance but um here we are also you know like seeing more

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art, more topics, more movies,

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more songs, and more of this kind of

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artistic cultural realm,

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like trying to bring the

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freedom, independence,

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anti-censorship

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kind of approach, and like

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freedom mindset, and so on and so forth,

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into their work, which is amazing, and I'm super

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happy to see that, and I hope

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it will happen even more.

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Love it.

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So, Aza...

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Sorry, Kida, were you going to say something?

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No, Aza.

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So I would love to hear and kind of maybe pull back a little bit and hear your backstory How did you rise to plebhood Sorry is it a question to me

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Yeah, yeah.

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I'd like to hear your backstory.

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Kind of from, you know,

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where did you decide that,

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hey, I'm a pleb?

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Maybe talk about your journey a little bit.

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I think it was more of a decision of my parents

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that they just kind of brought me to this world.

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No, I'm joking, of course.

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That's very specific sense of humor I have.

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I would say it's a very long story and probably we don't have so much time.

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I think I'm naturally just born curious person that is questioning many things.

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And I think just, yeah, the entire Bitcoin ethos, I do believe is built on the grassroots and pleb.

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And I'm not a big fan of any idols and influencers and all these kind of narratives.

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It's anti-Bitcoin, in my opinion.

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And so I see myself as pleb, but the story is pretty complex and too long.

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So, yeah.

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Not answering directly.

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That was good opsec, Aza.

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Well, you know, Avi, we always try to understand what clicks, right?

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I'm sometimes, like, personally thinking I might start some kind of movement

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when we will be against, like, Shultz asking Bitcoiners about their backstories.

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because not that there is some fault of your behavior or any other shows podcasters but i kind

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of think that it will be a threat in the future there will be more and more scammers and weird

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people listening to these things only to spot some people because their assumption might be

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completely wrong so with a question when did you learn about bitcoin when did you buy your bitcoin

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and watch your backstory, they might have completely wrong assumptions

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and it might be not a very safe topic.

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So, yeah.

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That is a good point.

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That's why I'm always trying to skip this question.

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It is a good point.

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I think it's more of a psychological question.

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I think we try to kind of find patterns.

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Let's say, like, for a lot of people, it might have been COVID.

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For a lot of people, it might have been, you know, governments

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or, you know, maybe they have a technology mindset

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and they just happen to, it just clicks for them really easy.

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Uh, you know, just kind of, in my case is probably everything at once.

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Like it's a journey.

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I like to say it's a journey.

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It's like a train.

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You take a train and it never stops and you are rediscovering things and month by month,

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podcast by podcast, book by book, year by year, you just, yeah, jump from one rabbit

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hole to another.

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And Bitcoin is just one of the beginnings or one of the points in this entire journey.

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For me, this is just like the sovereign mind that is going different directions.

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Yeah, and maybe we can reframe that, Avi, for the future, for more of a psychological standpoint.

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Because it's interesting.

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And I think if we take a sample of all of our guests, we might find some insightful things for future orange peeling.

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No, Azo makes a really good point, right?

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And for a related reason, I think Bitcoin, large Bitcoin conferences are going to get less and less safe for people to attend.

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and I don't know how much longer

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those large events are going to continue

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the 30,000, 40,000

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I think you'll have

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the smaller events like

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in comparison

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the Bitcoin Film Festival which is a few hundred people

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maybe it'll grow to

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1,000 or 2,000 but I don't know if we'll

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see events larger than that

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maybe 5, 10 years

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Why was the danger?

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Well, it's a honeypot

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you have hundreds of people

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who presumably have the hardest money on earth

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gathering in one place.

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And if you're an individual

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who's looking to extract that Bitcoin from them,

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well, you've hit the jackpot.

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There was some issue, I think,

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in one of the conferences last year.

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I don't want to say the name of it,

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not to scare anyone,

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but I think there was some...

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Somebody was breaking into the hotel

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of some speakers or something and then looking into their stuff or whatever i mean you know

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people are kind of weird and they try to be creative wasting their energy on stealing others

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belongings than just you know using this creativity into producing something useful

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and stuff you never know um i kind of like this uh this topic how do you think that having like

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like Bitcoin communities, like Bitcoin jungle,

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is dangerous?

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It's like against Bitcoin,

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against Bitcoin independence and privacy

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that you live in a place that is named Bitcoin something

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and there is a bunch of Bitcoiners around you.

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Is it a bit cliche or is it insecure?

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I just also have my thoughts about it.

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I'm shaping them, I don't know.

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It's tough, right?

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Because you have to start somewhere.

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But starting in just a couple spots is more of a target then.

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But you got to do it, I suppose.

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I mean, if you truly want to build circular economies, people have to know about them, right?

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And then what?

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What will happen to these conferences, right?

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These will be like conferences.

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If every conference is a Bitcoin conference, then no conferences.

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Just a matter of time.

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Just a side note, we have Bitcoin Film Fest and it's not a conference.

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And this is the entire beauty of it as well.

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It's not a conference.

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It's a cultural event.

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You have a festival, which is not a typical film festival.

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It's also not a typical music art festival.

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It's mixing all of these things together.

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And as you pointed out, Avi, it's not too big, not too small.

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So you can really like, um, reunion with some people or really like create a very close relationships with the newcomers.

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I mean, I think this is a very beautiful, like I'm saying it not because I'm, I'm like, you know, one tiny part of just making it happen.

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But I say it like really, um, looking as a third person at it and just listening to so many different opinions.

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I think it's beautiful that we have such things.

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And I hope there will be more and more.

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Agreed.

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And I think cultural events like the Bitcoin Film Fest

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and others of that nature will definitely be safe

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because no one assumes that artists have money.

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I have two things to say.

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Number one, remember that show we did Avi with,

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I think it was Island.

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It was one of our first PCR shows.

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But he was talking about that, I believe it was a Chinese national that kept trying to break into Nostrica, the original Nostra conference.

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And that was just a little bit after Domus was banned in China on the App Store.

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That was an interesting story, if anybody wants to hear that.

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Secondly, to the point of cultural events, we did our Nostra PHX here locally.

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And I know a pleb that's been holding a long time, older dude.

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He's not really.

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I'm like, why don't you ever go to anything?

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He's like, I don't want people to know.

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I'm like, okay, I respect that.

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He's like, but I would actually go to this Noster thing because it's essentially Bitcoiners.

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But it's a cultural event that's not, you know, really putting Bitcoin first.

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So as far as it's a sly roundabout way.

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So the stupid thieves and intelligence, they just don't know about it yet.

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They haven't figured.

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let's not publish this episode let's not share yeah but but it there is truth to that the cultural

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um is a wider net and it's uh it's i mean yeah that's that's yeah 100 agree and i've seen it

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for everything um i'm not personally like a big fan of huge gatherings um and also like this

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enormous conferences i think they are also more popular in the u.s to be honest in europe i think

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the btc product that you mentioned just at the beginning is the biggest so i'm not like a big

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fan of you know this huge huge huge gatherings whether it's concerts or whatever but I think

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there is place for everything right and we are living in a free world at least in our heads

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as Bitcoiners so it's good that there is a variety I am looking forward to more places like

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Bitcoin Film Fest like maybe some even art or music related because Bitcoin Film Fest is

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focused on films but also adding more of these different cultural realms I know there are some

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even smaller, I would say, like bigger meetups,

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smaller events in London happening,

462
00:32:17,084 --> 00:32:19,264
more focusing on music, for example.

463
00:32:20,883 --> 00:32:23,784
Personally, I'm looking for something like Burning Man,

464
00:32:24,883 --> 00:32:27,924
but Bitcoin, freedom, yeah, open mindset,

465
00:32:28,244 --> 00:32:33,104
like freedom, sovereignty, sovereign minds, yeah, related.

466
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:34,844
So let's see what the future brings.

467
00:32:35,364 --> 00:32:38,004
I would love to see, yeah, all of those things,

468
00:32:38,004 --> 00:32:39,684
which you said, Aza, but the other one,

469
00:32:39,684 --> 00:32:41,824
I would love to make happen

470
00:32:41,824 --> 00:32:43,424
is a Bitcoin food festival.

471
00:32:44,624 --> 00:32:46,584
And both of you will remember

472
00:32:46,584 --> 00:32:48,383
there was a short trailer

473
00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:51,484
played at the Bitcoin Film Fest

474
00:32:51,484 --> 00:32:52,383
last year

475
00:32:52,383 --> 00:32:55,724
for B is for Bosa.

476
00:32:56,124 --> 00:32:57,344
Ah, Sardinia.

477
00:32:58,744 --> 00:33:00,924
And Tomek, I reached out to you saying,

478
00:33:01,004 --> 00:33:01,824
who the hell is this guy?

479
00:33:01,864 --> 00:33:02,804
I need to talk to him.

480
00:33:03,383 --> 00:33:04,824
And it's a crazy Englishman.

481
00:33:04,824 --> 00:33:06,964
And I mean crazy in the most,

482
00:33:07,124 --> 00:33:08,124
in the kindest way,

483
00:33:08,124 --> 00:33:12,883
in the most praiseworthy way, right?

484
00:33:13,444 --> 00:33:16,084
Crazy Englishman called Carl Fritz,

485
00:33:16,383 --> 00:33:18,824
who's an expat living in Sardinia,

486
00:33:19,324 --> 00:33:22,383
and he has this idea of creating,

487
00:33:22,883 --> 00:33:23,964
where he wanted to make a movie

488
00:33:23,964 --> 00:33:25,764
that showed a future Sardinia

489
00:33:25,764 --> 00:33:27,644
as a circular economy, right?

490
00:33:28,264 --> 00:33:29,924
Completely hyper-Bitcoinized.

491
00:33:30,324 --> 00:33:31,744
And I got talking to him

492
00:33:31,744 --> 00:33:33,883
after I got his contact from Yutomag,

493
00:33:34,484 --> 00:33:36,304
and we said, it would be amazing

494
00:33:36,304 --> 00:33:40,744
if we could do a Bitcoin food fest in Borsa, right?

495
00:33:40,984 --> 00:33:42,304
And use that.

496
00:33:42,544 --> 00:33:43,844
They run pizzeria there.

497
00:33:43,964 --> 00:33:47,404
They have their brewery in Sardinia.

498
00:33:47,404 --> 00:33:49,784
And they try to create this circular economy.

499
00:33:51,104 --> 00:33:54,804
I believe we could maybe, you know, give him a call,

500
00:33:55,064 --> 00:33:58,804
bring him to the episode and seed this idea.

501
00:33:59,144 --> 00:34:00,684
Man, we need food fest.

502
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:03,084
No, Carly is great.

503
00:34:03,564 --> 00:34:04,064
Say hello.

504
00:34:04,064 --> 00:34:06,284
So, Carly, if you listen to us, you are great.

505
00:34:07,404 --> 00:34:11,784
One of the hardest things is finding the RSVP.

506
00:34:12,824 --> 00:34:15,804
Like, how is it with the Bitcoin Film Festival?

507
00:34:16,664 --> 00:34:19,604
Basically, everyone needs a ticket so you know how many are arriving.

508
00:34:20,024 --> 00:34:23,004
But when you're planning these events, you're not really sure.

509
00:34:23,264 --> 00:34:25,704
I mean, maybe it goes back to the first event you guys did,

510
00:34:26,224 --> 00:34:29,284
where you're trying to plan this venue,

511
00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:31,864
but you're not even sure how much interest is in it.

512
00:34:31,864 --> 00:34:35,144
how is that how do you approach that

513
00:34:35,144 --> 00:34:42,304
because I'm thinking about these food vendors showing up with all their food and they have

514
00:34:42,304 --> 00:34:48,244
no idea how many people to feed yeah this is the most like unknown thing and the most stressful

515
00:34:48,244 --> 00:34:55,383
organizing such a thing of course it it's complex on many levels but once you once you learn how to

516
00:34:55,383 --> 00:34:59,904
organize it and have you know relationship with venue with some providers it's all right but then

517
00:34:59,904 --> 00:35:17,615
and still the biggest unknown is the audience people They tend to and I also like this so I cannot complain but we humanity tend to buy those type of or we are used to buying those tickets last minute even if

518
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:23,175
prices rise very often but we try to change that so you never know if there

519
00:35:23,175 --> 00:35:27,255
will be hundred people or four hundred people you know at such festival but how

520
00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:34,175
do you approach it I guess it's sensing flexible organization of things at the

521
00:35:34,175 --> 00:35:39,175
In the beginning, when we did the first Film Festival, it was a side event, actually.

522
00:35:39,175 --> 00:35:42,175
It started as a side event to a weekend of capitalism.

523
00:35:42,175 --> 00:35:45,175
It's another libertarian conference that we organize here in Poland.

524
00:35:45,175 --> 00:35:48,175
It's a Polish libertarian gathering.

525
00:35:48,175 --> 00:35:50,175
So it was a satellite event to that.

526
00:35:50,175 --> 00:35:56,175
It was an interesting experience because most of Film Fest's audience were Europeans,

527
00:35:56,175 --> 00:36:00,175
internationalists, who came, okay, there is this new type of event, let's go.

528
00:36:00,175 --> 00:36:04,876
and most of my audience was Polish and they kind of intersected, right?

529
00:36:05,115 --> 00:36:07,255
Bitcoiners came to see this Libertarian conference,

530
00:36:07,675 --> 00:36:11,015
Polish Libertarians came to see this English Bitcoin movies.

531
00:36:11,675 --> 00:36:15,535
So I think that was a good kickstart to the festival.

532
00:36:15,835 --> 00:36:21,655
So next years are just easier because you know many more things now.

533
00:36:24,095 --> 00:36:26,155
And it's not a side event anymore.

534
00:36:26,155 --> 00:36:27,155
It actually has...

535
00:36:27,155 --> 00:36:27,916
Yeah, it outgrew.

536
00:36:28,495 --> 00:36:29,916
So it's just like, wow, right?

537
00:36:29,916 --> 00:36:39,835
I mean, just looking at the, I'm very happy for like this year because it's a third edition and we learned so much, improved so many things.

538
00:36:39,936 --> 00:36:48,275
Probably still way to go, but the space is kind of getting more mature and yeah, it's pretty exciting.

539
00:36:48,555 --> 00:36:49,135
Third time.

540
00:36:50,715 --> 00:36:52,315
We also kind of have gone.

541
00:36:53,015 --> 00:36:54,896
I was just saying it's no longer a side event.

542
00:36:55,135 --> 00:36:56,635
It has its own side events.

543
00:36:56,755 --> 00:36:57,916
That's how big it is now.

544
00:36:57,916 --> 00:36:58,235
Yeah.

545
00:36:58,235 --> 00:37:00,196
yeah but it's not

546
00:37:00,196 --> 00:37:02,575
we don't even want it

547
00:37:02,575 --> 00:37:03,835
much bigger you know

548
00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:07,575
it's better to have

549
00:37:07,575 --> 00:37:10,715
every year for 5-10 years

550
00:37:10,715 --> 00:37:12,615
build and have

551
00:37:12,615 --> 00:37:14,735
5-10 small festivals

552
00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:15,936
rather than

553
00:37:15,936 --> 00:37:18,155
build something big when there is

554
00:37:18,155 --> 00:37:20,235
come on there is not yet enough

555
00:37:20,235 --> 00:37:21,735
that much of a bitcoin cinema

556
00:37:21,735 --> 00:37:24,235
it still has places to grow

557
00:37:24,235 --> 00:37:25,535
then we will spend energy

558
00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:28,196
and already on established network

559
00:37:28,196 --> 00:37:33,075
of five or ten years of various filmmakers in this culture,

560
00:37:33,495 --> 00:37:34,675
Bitcoin culture industry,

561
00:37:35,315 --> 00:37:38,215
art, branch, group of plebs.

562
00:37:39,055 --> 00:37:42,495
And yeah, I guess every next year it will be easier.

563
00:37:42,595 --> 00:37:44,675
We will just make it better, not necessarily bigger,

564
00:37:44,735 --> 00:37:47,135
because the value in it is also that it's cozy,

565
00:37:47,876 --> 00:37:50,755
that you get to know basically everyone.

566
00:37:50,755 --> 00:37:52,615
We have very nice parties.

567
00:37:52,615 --> 00:38:02,295
it's uh this event is designed for fun and good time uh by consuming some and getting to know

568
00:38:02,295 --> 00:38:06,416
bitcoin culture in form of movies and not only right because we have concerts there is like

569
00:38:06,416 --> 00:38:13,896
eight bitcoin artists performing at bitcoin film fest this year we have roger 9000 air clips gold

570
00:38:13,896 --> 00:38:21,515
from uk mad monkey dj from poland there is abbe polish ethno electronic musician aaron kenick

571
00:38:21,515 --> 00:38:27,475
German Bitcoiner having his solo guitar performance of his songs.

572
00:38:27,896 --> 00:38:34,595
Then Ackman and Andy Princh, also guys from Bitcoin Collective 2140 in the UK will be rapping.

573
00:38:35,515 --> 00:38:37,956
Then we have also DJ Renix on Monday.

574
00:38:38,135 --> 00:38:43,135
So we have like one, two, three, seven, five, nine Bitcoin artists.

575
00:38:43,255 --> 00:38:48,175
And Exiled Surfer also, very interesting pleb, will be our VJ.

576
00:38:48,175 --> 00:38:56,255
So we'll have also a show of Bitcoin, fractals animation and whatnot you can do on a nice screen outside of Palace of Culture.

577
00:38:56,856 --> 00:39:00,035
So it's not just movies. It's also music. It's also art.

578
00:39:00,235 --> 00:39:03,416
There is art gallery on the stairs of Palace of Culture.

579
00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:05,275
Stairway is magnificent.

580
00:39:06,275 --> 00:39:14,735
And any art, basically, even those B letters also look good between those columns.

581
00:39:14,735 --> 00:39:20,295
so yeah anyone who is still like considering of course you guys and most of you let's make

582
00:39:20,295 --> 00:39:29,615
blockchain a discount code 20 works only for the next week let's do it and come over to warsaw

583
00:39:29,615 --> 00:39:34,896
it's in two weeks my 22 we start with a pizza day and then we have movies screenings parties

584
00:39:34,896 --> 00:39:42,476
djs vjs panels contests fun event come over warsaw heart of poland heart of europe heart of bitcoin

585
00:39:42,476 --> 00:39:44,655
in cinema. You heard it

586
00:39:44,655 --> 00:39:45,876
here first, folks.

587
00:39:46,755 --> 00:39:48,335
Discount code PLEBCHEN

588
00:39:48,335 --> 00:39:50,535
gets you 20% off tickets to the

589
00:39:50,535 --> 00:39:51,416
Bitcoin Film Fest.

590
00:39:52,436 --> 00:39:54,876
That was a nice little ShamWow

591
00:39:54,876 --> 00:39:56,015
promotion there.

592
00:39:56,495 --> 00:39:58,095
You got me hyped there, Tomek.

593
00:39:58,695 --> 00:39:59,175
You coming?

594
00:40:01,015 --> 00:40:01,896
That's far.

595
00:40:02,675 --> 00:40:04,575
Well, man, we are having

596
00:40:04,575 --> 00:40:06,555
so many guests from Thailand,

597
00:40:06,896 --> 00:40:08,456
like Latam, Honduras,

598
00:40:08,675 --> 00:40:10,295
Salvador, Canada.

599
00:40:10,295 --> 00:40:14,595
So, you know, whenever I hear somebody saying it's far away, it's just an excuse.

600
00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:19,095
But it's still a better answer than when some people say, I'm going to Vegas.

601
00:40:19,795 --> 00:40:21,356
It's far from my two-year-old.

602
00:40:21,995 --> 00:40:23,295
I can drive to Vegas in four hours.

603
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:28,575
We will do 10 more film festivals in BFF 35 CUQW in Warsaw.

604
00:40:28,896 --> 00:40:30,195
Do I want to go?

605
00:40:30,476 --> 00:40:31,936
Absolutely, I want to go.

606
00:40:32,055 --> 00:40:33,456
Definitely, we're going to meet one here.

607
00:40:33,995 --> 00:40:40,235
But regarding like marketing, shilling stuff and so on, which is super interesting, I think, for this edition.

608
00:40:40,295 --> 00:40:47,515
and it's like completely anti-selling things and anti-marketing we are also having something

609
00:40:47,515 --> 00:40:53,735
like very very unique this year uh poise we called it so the first ever show of the bitcoin

610
00:40:53,735 --> 00:41:00,335
only advertising so you know like all this um either you have memes like the funny money crew

611
00:41:00,335 --> 00:41:06,436
right like legard and so on um when bitcoiners are just reposting them when they do some wrong

612
00:41:06,436 --> 00:41:12,275
move and then saying thank you guys for promoting bitcoin or you have these whole memes like yeah

613
00:41:12,275 --> 00:41:17,235
bitcoin doesn't need marketing but actually there are so many great commercials and so many awesome

614
00:41:17,235 --> 00:41:23,356
campaigns um probably even more to come and this year we are having like a small show for that and

615
00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:30,575
even a separate gala with awards so this is like a complete new topic this year so again not movies

616
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:32,416
but somehow related to that.

617
00:41:32,695 --> 00:41:37,255
Basically, we figured that one of the most interesting to watch

618
00:41:37,856 --> 00:41:41,856
genres of Bitcoin cinema, because majority is documentaries, right?

619
00:41:41,856 --> 00:41:45,495
There is documentaries with this Bitcoin, what's happening in Salvador.

620
00:41:45,735 --> 00:41:48,295
There is some fiction, there are some shorts, all right.

621
00:41:48,535 --> 00:41:52,775
But the one unexplored yet before, at least by us

622
00:41:53,175 --> 00:41:57,495
in this Bitcoin Film Fest initiatives, is commercial videos.

623
00:41:57,495 --> 00:42:03,896
and those advertisement videos that have been produced for the last like 12 years at least for

624
00:42:03,896 --> 00:42:10,675
Bitcoin companies but also for Bitcoin per se as a phenomena are really fun to watch and they are

625
00:42:10,675 --> 00:42:18,896
very often well made on par with really quality productions from other genres so we do this

626
00:42:18,896 --> 00:42:27,376
Bitcoin advertisement awards the first one called PoEIS we have selected by submissions and by

627
00:42:27,376 --> 00:42:35,376
ourselves over 30 advertisements videos and non-video ones we have a steam jury very soon

628
00:42:35,376 --> 00:42:39,615
the info will be public about it and the first post will happen so let's see who does the best

629
00:42:39,615 --> 00:42:48,735
bitcoin advertisements in this space does that include coinbase's ads as well ah that's a good

630
00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:59,055
question coinbase has the best bitcoin ads there is uh they have like four or five like shorts which

631
00:42:59,055 --> 00:43:09,376
are just so touching you know and uh so clever and such a good editing yes but internal clash

632
00:43:09,376 --> 00:43:14,335
but they have big budgets there are there is internal class they have bitcoin only companies

633
00:43:14,335 --> 00:43:20,436
They also care about promotion of Bitcoin, of promotion of alternative payment system.

634
00:43:20,555 --> 00:43:21,456
I think there is alignment.

635
00:43:21,575 --> 00:43:23,115
We don't have to look at them as enemies.

636
00:43:23,655 --> 00:43:26,535
However, we don't include this.

637
00:43:26,916 --> 00:43:28,095
This is Bitcoin-only festival.

638
00:43:28,635 --> 00:43:38,275
However, we have some advertisements that are from some exchanges, but there is no crypto promotion.

639
00:43:38,275 --> 00:43:39,936
and also the goal is that

640
00:43:39,936 --> 00:43:41,376
the point is that

641
00:43:41,376 --> 00:43:44,535
we just didn't get reply from Coinbase

642
00:43:44,535 --> 00:43:46,356
and from all over

643
00:43:46,356 --> 00:43:48,335
at least like one fourth

644
00:43:48,335 --> 00:43:50,376
of the brands we needed to get their

645
00:43:50,376 --> 00:43:52,376
permission so over the last two months

646
00:43:52,376 --> 00:43:54,055
we were in touch with those various brands

647
00:43:54,055 --> 00:43:56,295
and producers of advertisements

648
00:43:56,295 --> 00:43:58,376
so yeah

649
00:43:58,376 --> 00:44:00,295
we accept friends who are

650
00:44:00,295 --> 00:44:02,335
Bitcoiners and who answer to emails of Bitcoin

651
00:44:02,335 --> 00:44:02,795
Film Fest

652
00:44:02,795 --> 00:44:06,195
I'm picturing Brian Armstrong

653
00:44:06,195 --> 00:44:09,015
going to the Bitcoin Film Festival

654
00:44:09,015 --> 00:44:10,416
to submit his commercial

655
00:44:10,416 --> 00:44:13,075
and Larry Fink of BlackRock

656
00:44:13,075 --> 00:44:14,795
going there to submit the commercial.

657
00:44:15,695 --> 00:44:16,995
What do you think?

658
00:44:17,376 --> 00:44:18,635
And give one million dollars

659
00:44:18,635 --> 00:44:20,555
and tell you one fiat advertisement.

660
00:44:22,175 --> 00:44:22,655
Exactly.

661
00:44:24,135 --> 00:44:26,255
Trying to legitimize themselves.

662
00:44:26,655 --> 00:44:29,416
Well, Larry Fink will pay in iBit, right?

663
00:44:31,376 --> 00:44:34,775
And Brian Armstrong is going to pay in paper Bitcoin

664
00:44:34,775 --> 00:44:36,075
because that's all he has.

665
00:44:36,195 --> 00:44:46,376
Oh, man. You mentioned a lot of them have been documentaries, and now you're submitting commercials and stuff.

666
00:44:47,695 --> 00:44:56,476
Me and Avi were kind of talking, and we've had some shows in the past, I think, in regards to movies or Bitcoin-related movies.

667
00:44:56,896 --> 00:45:01,595
One of them that was really nice, I thought, was the shooter film, No More Inflation.

668
00:45:01,595 --> 00:45:08,396
the reason being is it didn't really talk about Bitcoin and really till the end so when I sat down

669
00:45:08,396 --> 00:45:15,255
with my wife who you know she's kind of my litmus test for a lot of this it was really focused on

670
00:45:15,255 --> 00:45:22,315
inflation and how it kind of affects everything and it's very emotional but it doesn't introduce

671
00:45:22,315 --> 00:45:28,856
the solution till the end so it's it's something where how do we get that sly roundabout way

672
00:45:28,856 --> 00:45:34,936
and then secondly is documentary is i would assume it's a lot a lot of it comes down to budget

673
00:45:34,936 --> 00:45:40,335
and a lot of these are small projects where someone's just spending someone's grueling away

674
00:45:40,335 --> 00:45:48,456
hours and hours and hours is it something where maybe ai gets introduced and gets us more into a

675
00:45:48,456 --> 00:45:51,675
the fictional stories?

676
00:45:55,295 --> 00:45:58,655
Yeah, I guess this is what AI does.

677
00:45:58,775 --> 00:46:03,735
It enables some skills for people who might be creative,

678
00:46:03,896 --> 00:46:05,195
smart, have good stories to tell,

679
00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:07,795
but you need skills, lots of skills,

680
00:46:08,075 --> 00:46:11,396
and lots of budgets to create compelling visual

681
00:46:11,396 --> 00:46:15,275
with cameras, with lights, with good editing.

682
00:46:15,896 --> 00:46:17,315
And very often, you know, I also, like,

683
00:46:17,315 --> 00:46:24,995
we do graphics with some chat gpt or midjourney uh you can already do nice visual motion graphics

684
00:46:25,555 --> 00:46:31,876
videos and it will only get better with time so that's a definitely interesting evolution

685
00:46:31,876 --> 00:46:36,356
maybe not revolution but we are uh showing we are talking about it at the big film festival

686
00:46:36,356 --> 00:46:44,595
the opening block the opening screenings for bff are is called bff blue new media new stories

687
00:46:44,595 --> 00:46:48,595
where we will screen few Bitcoin AI shorts

688
00:46:48,595 --> 00:46:52,396
and there will be a panel discussion about AI and how it

689
00:46:52,447 --> 00:46:54,207
enables some creativity.

690
00:46:55,607 --> 00:46:59,647
But documentaries, I kind of agreed,

691
00:46:59,827 --> 00:47:03,647
they are technically probably the easiest genre, right?

692
00:47:03,687 --> 00:47:04,747
Because you don't need actors,

693
00:47:04,867 --> 00:47:08,707
you don't need to rely on their skills and all of this screenplay.

694
00:47:08,847 --> 00:47:11,347
You can record a video with your phone

695
00:47:11,347 --> 00:47:14,327
and basically its basic genre is documentary.

696
00:47:15,527 --> 00:47:21,567
So it costs more to build fiction films as well.

697
00:47:21,567 --> 00:47:24,207
so there is no surprise that there is less of them

698
00:47:24,207 --> 00:47:26,067
but we always at

699
00:47:26,067 --> 00:47:27,987
Bitcoin Film Fest are super happy

700
00:47:27,987 --> 00:47:28,907
when there is new

701
00:47:28,907 --> 00:47:31,867
fictional film, future film and now

702
00:47:31,867 --> 00:47:33,427
thanks to AI there is more of them

703
00:47:33,427 --> 00:47:35,867
more shorts because there is

704
00:47:35,867 --> 00:47:36,187
you know

705
00:47:36,187 --> 00:47:40,127
it's more entertaining at least for me

706
00:47:40,127 --> 00:47:42,287
to watch non-documentaries

707
00:47:42,287 --> 00:47:44,307
and this year

708
00:47:44,307 --> 00:47:46,127
we have a comedy which is not

709
00:47:46,127 --> 00:47:48,567
a documentary movie and it's

710
00:47:48,567 --> 00:47:50,127
Bitcoin related as well

711
00:47:50,127 --> 00:47:56,447
so yeah which one is that it's called hotel bitcoin it's actually a spanish comedy um i think

712
00:47:56,447 --> 00:48:02,847
it was never um never shown anywhere out of the spanish-speaking realm so yeah this is one of the

713
00:48:02,847 --> 00:48:09,647
main screenings at this this year edition hotel bitcoin pretty funny stuff but the other one the

714
00:48:09,647 --> 00:48:16,927
day before unbankable um by luke wilms from canada uh this is the european premiere of this film is

715
00:48:16,927 --> 00:48:20,427
You would like it, both of you actually.

716
00:48:21,467 --> 00:48:26,267
It's kind of similar to my Bitcoin shooter film,

717
00:48:26,347 --> 00:48:29,007
that it doesn't speak about Bitcoin till the other end.

718
00:48:29,087 --> 00:48:33,027
It's also a documentary about some problems with the financial system.

719
00:48:33,327 --> 00:48:37,887
However, it focuses on Africa and innovation in various countries

720
00:48:37,887 --> 00:48:42,047
to which various societies need to run away

721
00:48:42,047 --> 00:48:44,527
because normal banking was not available for them.

722
00:48:44,527 --> 00:48:47,567
and look through this journey, discovers Bitcoin.

723
00:48:47,987 --> 00:48:54,187
So it was originally intended to be a financial investigation documentary.

724
00:48:54,787 --> 00:48:56,947
And by making this, the director learned about Bitcoin,

725
00:48:57,187 --> 00:49:00,367
and that's why also we as audience learn about it at the end.

726
00:49:01,047 --> 00:49:04,187
We screen it on Friday of the festival on the evening.

727
00:49:04,407 --> 00:49:05,447
The title is Unbankable.

728
00:49:06,247 --> 00:49:09,927
Yeah, everyone, if you want to guys just have a look,

729
00:49:09,987 --> 00:49:11,747
the same as you guys know,

730
00:49:11,747 --> 00:49:17,187
if you want to just have a look what's happening not only we have this monthly newsletter that it's

731
00:49:17,187 --> 00:49:24,707
like bitcoin cinema digest so we give previews of different productions in progress planned finish

732
00:49:24,707 --> 00:49:31,907
and so on but also now we're publishing a little bit more of short form content i would say to read

733
00:49:31,907 --> 00:49:39,187
and to re-watch so already on the website there is yeah there are some videos with the ads like

734
00:49:39,187 --> 00:49:45,667
video ads there is also I think a short preview of the feature films of this

735
00:49:45,667 --> 00:49:50,807
edition regarding Luke and unbunkable last night we published an exclusive

736
00:49:50,807 --> 00:49:55,627
interview with him so you can also have a more insights about peace story and

737
00:49:55,627 --> 00:49:59,947
the mission and then vision he had for this production because it took him seven

738
00:49:59,947 --> 00:50:04,147
years so yeah there is some nice there are some nice pieces to read on our

739
00:50:04,147 --> 00:50:08,047
website as well so yeah everyone is welcome to visit and to revisit from

740
00:50:08,047 --> 00:50:14,847
time to time can can i say i love your website um when i when i open it up i just put in bitcoin

741
00:50:14,847 --> 00:50:24,607
film fest uh uh let's see here if it works best bitcoinfilmfest.com and i'm scrolling it and uh

742
00:50:24,607 --> 00:50:29,087
it i feel like i'm in a movie theater the way the little seats are set up on the bottom so this is

743
00:50:29,087 --> 00:50:35,967
a good awesome if you especially if you visit it on desktop that's the way it should feel yeah i go

744
00:50:35,967 --> 00:50:36,847
Go to credits.

745
00:50:39,387 --> 00:50:44,467
On top menu, you will see who is, what people help us create Bitcoin Film Fest.

746
00:50:44,827 --> 00:50:46,587
We should add your names if you're not there yet.

747
00:50:47,587 --> 00:50:49,807
Yeah, I mean, at the top, please.

748
00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:51,527
All right, let's do it.

749
00:50:53,127 --> 00:50:54,027
No, I'm kidding.

750
00:50:54,167 --> 00:50:55,587
But yeah, no, that's great.

751
00:50:55,667 --> 00:50:57,327
I mean, it's kind of like I'm in a movie theater.

752
00:50:57,847 --> 00:51:02,747
Anybody that's listening, I recommend going to Bitcoin Film Fest

753
00:51:02,747 --> 00:51:05,087
and checking out their website at the very least

754
00:51:05,087 --> 00:51:08,227
because you can tell how much thought's put into this,

755
00:51:08,387 --> 00:51:11,007
and that translates to how much thought

756
00:51:11,007 --> 00:51:14,247
is actually put into the festival as well.

757
00:51:14,687 --> 00:51:17,827
We still, however, consider this website in alpha.

758
00:51:18,107 --> 00:51:20,567
It's like so unfinished with the content

759
00:51:20,567 --> 00:51:22,307
that we have ready for this.

760
00:51:22,727 --> 00:51:24,567
But slowly, we are early.

761
00:51:28,467 --> 00:51:30,187
So, Tomek, what is the lineup?

762
00:51:30,487 --> 00:51:33,027
You talked about Hotel Beccon, which is a comedy.

763
00:51:33,027 --> 00:51:41,027
So we have basically started with Bitcoin Pizza Day when there are concerts on Thursday, May 22nd.

764
00:51:41,647 --> 00:51:47,047
And then we have three days of film festival and let's call them cinema blocks.

765
00:51:47,727 --> 00:51:49,907
We have eight of them.

766
00:51:49,987 --> 00:51:53,507
So there is eight opportunities of watching movies.

767
00:51:53,507 --> 00:51:59,687
And there is this BFF Blue, part of AI and some talks called New Media, New Stories.

768
00:52:00,327 --> 00:52:02,607
Then the next block is Pitching Rabbits.

769
00:52:02,607 --> 00:52:12,307
So we have pitching stage and eight contestants, Avi, you were there last year, get voted by audience which movie audience wants to be done.

770
00:52:12,527 --> 00:52:16,267
So they're pitching their films like a Shark Tank to audience.

771
00:52:16,507 --> 00:52:23,947
And there is 3000 euros from our sponsors, a grant to be won by the best pitch of aspiring filmmaker.

772
00:52:24,687 --> 00:52:28,467
Then at 7 p.m. we meet for Unbankable, the document I mentioned.

773
00:52:28,467 --> 00:52:31,707
Next day, on Saturday, we start with Outcast Cinema.

774
00:52:32,087 --> 00:52:35,447
It's also two presentations of films about parallel societies

775
00:52:35,447 --> 00:52:38,547
and alternative ways of living on Bitcoin,

776
00:52:39,007 --> 00:52:43,027
with also a nice presentation by Psypher.

777
00:52:43,967 --> 00:52:45,647
Then we have Revolution Bitcoin,

778
00:52:45,907 --> 00:52:49,967
it's a Spanish documentary about the impact of Bitcoin

779
00:52:49,967 --> 00:52:53,267
on various countries of the Spanish-speaking world.

780
00:52:53,387 --> 00:52:55,927
Hotel Bitcoin is this comedy we mentioned.

781
00:52:55,927 --> 00:53:01,487
And then on Sunday at BFF Orange is our almost last cinema blog.

782
00:53:04,307 --> 00:53:09,407
This blog is called Get It Done because we are screening the films that are already released.

783
00:53:09,507 --> 00:53:11,987
Before we were talking about films to be done, films in making,

784
00:53:12,107 --> 00:53:14,827
and now we are screening shorts that are already released.

785
00:53:14,827 --> 00:53:20,007
There is Immutable History by Javier Borraio, The Man Who Shouldn't Cry by Emil Johnson,

786
00:53:20,007 --> 00:53:24,787
and a pilot episode of Finding Home by Avi Burra,

787
00:53:25,287 --> 00:53:28,487
who will be with us with his spirit, I guess.

788
00:53:29,867 --> 00:53:33,847
And then on Sunday, we end with Bitcoin Advertisement Awards.

789
00:53:33,967 --> 00:53:34,467
It's Poise.

790
00:53:34,967 --> 00:53:36,167
Then we have stand-up comedy.

791
00:53:37,187 --> 00:53:39,887
Probably not only now Bitcoin stand-upper

792
00:53:39,887 --> 00:53:41,547
who is performing regularly.

793
00:53:42,027 --> 00:53:44,047
Rob Leclayne is coming to Warsaw,

794
00:53:44,327 --> 00:53:47,287
and he will perform while Jury will convene

795
00:53:47,287 --> 00:53:49,967
before ceremony of Golden Rabbits.

796
00:53:50,007 --> 00:53:55,567
This is where jury and audience selects best movies in four categories.

797
00:53:55,827 --> 00:53:57,127
Those are our Oscars.

798
00:53:57,387 --> 00:54:00,987
And of course, after every day of this agenda, there are after parties, various.

799
00:54:01,527 --> 00:54:07,467
On Friday and Saturday morning, we have film and Bitcoin workshops at our cinema club, Amondo.

800
00:54:07,627 --> 00:54:08,747
It's a breakfast club.

801
00:54:09,307 --> 00:54:14,607
And also in parallel to the cinema stage, there is a community stage with open mic.

802
00:54:14,607 --> 00:54:19,387
And we already have full list of submissions from various Bitcoiners around the world who come to the festival.

803
00:54:19,387 --> 00:54:25,547
and they just with their open format talk about whatever they want 21 minutes each uh and in

804
00:54:25,547 --> 00:54:30,347
between there are some tours we are going to shooting ranch next day we are going on a bitcoin

805
00:54:30,347 --> 00:54:37,147
walk there will be uh tours on the vistula river so it's a five basically actually five days of

806
00:54:37,147 --> 00:54:42,747
various activities around bitcoin culture in a beautiful city in warsaw and really good day

807
00:54:42,747 --> 00:54:45,787
a best date for a film festival.

808
00:54:46,247 --> 00:54:49,827
And hopefully the weather just doesn't spoil us

809
00:54:49,827 --> 00:54:52,707
because the end of May is beautiful in Warsaw.

810
00:54:54,387 --> 00:54:56,027
When laser show?

811
00:54:58,647 --> 00:55:01,027
We cannot speak about it.

812
00:55:01,027 --> 00:55:02,027
Stronger lasers.

813
00:55:02,227 --> 00:55:04,327
Last year also we couldn't speak about it.

814
00:55:04,447 --> 00:55:05,087
It's not us.

815
00:55:05,147 --> 00:55:08,707
It's not us who emit those photons strongly

816
00:55:08,707 --> 00:55:15,387
strongly in certain shapes on important strategic buildings this is not us somebody else did it and

817
00:55:15,387 --> 00:55:21,147
maybe somebody else will do it this year so you need to come to check it yeah i mean it was

818
00:55:21,147 --> 00:55:26,687
spontaneous last year right we were there miraculously a couple of minutes after the

819
00:55:26,687 --> 00:55:32,487
halving there was a laser show it's amazing when the universe lines itself up so nicely and i

820
00:55:32,487 --> 00:55:37,287
suspect that's going to happen this year too because why not right yeah last year we were

821
00:55:37,287 --> 00:55:44,527
we were manipulating uh the global hash right for the halving to happen exactly at our halving party

822
00:55:44,527 --> 00:55:53,087
at 420 and exactly when we the lasers suddenly yes stars aligned but also we manipulated hash

823
00:55:53,087 --> 00:55:57,187
power that's the truth this year there is no halving so we only manipulate stars

824
00:55:57,187 --> 00:56:05,067
right you know the funny thing about the halving was it was maybe 30 minutes if it had been 30

825
00:56:05,067 --> 00:56:11,287
minutes later it would have been 4 20 a.m on 4 20 it ended up being 3 30 or something like that

826
00:56:11,287 --> 00:56:19,087
well there was some place on earth when it was 4 20 right even solar time in solar time possibly yes

827
00:56:19,087 --> 00:56:23,807
so Tomek you know this is your third year

828
00:56:23,807 --> 00:56:33,827
what are the learnings you're taking from year two right I mean that was a bigger event because

829
00:56:33,827 --> 00:56:38,227
it was a halving party presumably but what are the learnings that you got out of that event and

830
00:56:38,227 --> 00:56:54,224
you had a year to digest and reflect on them and and you plan to implement in this year fest Well as always you make your new Year resolution after the event and then you don stick to it And then you plan ahead that you will have a whole graphic design

831
00:56:54,224 --> 00:56:57,864
and the program ready agenda a few months before the event.

832
00:56:58,624 --> 00:57:04,564
Of course, you do it, we do it quite on a late agenda.

833
00:57:04,704 --> 00:57:07,264
It could be done very much earlier, but we are getting better.

834
00:57:07,264 --> 00:57:13,724
And I guess even this year, we will already announce dates for the BFF26,

835
00:57:14,164 --> 00:57:18,344
because everything is just going more smoothly every year.

836
00:57:18,604 --> 00:57:21,844
And also, I think the biggest lesson that we had from the halving party,

837
00:57:21,984 --> 00:57:27,744
which was full in various activities, as you know, and we actually had more planned.

838
00:57:27,824 --> 00:57:29,924
We wanted to have these European halving games.

839
00:57:30,044 --> 00:57:34,464
We had these competitions, which luckily we decided not to start with,

840
00:57:34,464 --> 00:57:37,744
because we would just crumble under intensity

841
00:57:37,744 --> 00:57:39,824
and there was just not enough yet also people

842
00:57:39,824 --> 00:57:42,544
to justify so many activities.

843
00:57:42,544 --> 00:57:45,024
So this year we go more lean.

844
00:57:47,144 --> 00:57:51,624
We wake up and mobilize our team of volunteers later,

845
00:57:51,624 --> 00:57:54,584
so they come and enjoy the festival.

846
00:57:54,584 --> 00:57:59,224
The work before is mostly done by Shalala and myself.

847
00:58:00,584 --> 00:58:01,984
But we just go more lean.

848
00:58:01,984 --> 00:58:07,664
And we know that this is not the event that needs to overgrow the content behind it.

849
00:58:08,344 --> 00:58:10,544
Or, you know, the movies are great.

850
00:58:10,624 --> 00:58:12,024
We are in between.

851
00:58:12,824 --> 00:58:26,784
And there will be more value if we do it, as I mentioned, every year smaller without, like, you know, putting so much energy and, like, creating this huge thing which just wouldn't be sustainable.

852
00:58:26,784 --> 00:58:29,064
and I think this way going clean

853
00:58:29,064 --> 00:58:31,224
I'm more certain

854
00:58:31,224 --> 00:58:33,024
about the future

855
00:58:33,024 --> 00:58:34,984
of Bitcoin Film Fest because it looks like

856
00:58:34,984 --> 00:58:36,544
oh yeah we can actually do it

857
00:58:36,544 --> 00:58:38,984
smoother and easier

858
00:58:38,984 --> 00:58:40,744
and it's still a fun nice event

859
00:58:40,744 --> 00:58:43,184
without overselling it too much for example

860
00:58:43,184 --> 00:58:44,964
because we don't need to, people are coming

861
00:58:44,964 --> 00:58:47,064
anyway, they hear about us

862
00:58:47,064 --> 00:58:47,884
at Plep Chain Radio

863
00:58:47,884 --> 00:58:51,044
but you know you raised a

864
00:58:51,044 --> 00:58:52,864
really important point, I think most people

865
00:58:52,864 --> 00:58:54,984
don't appreciate this, is this

866
00:58:54,984 --> 00:58:56,344
is all a team of volunteers

867
00:58:56,344 --> 00:59:02,464
right Aza that there is not a lot of money to be made here you're doing this because you love what

868
00:59:02,464 --> 00:59:12,744
you do Aza yeah I mean definitely we are doing it because we love it I like personally I do it

869
00:59:12,744 --> 00:59:20,824
because this is what I believe in I quit actually twice or three times my fiat jobs and later crypto

870
00:59:20,824 --> 00:59:22,104
slash web3job.

871
00:59:22,504 --> 00:59:24,584
So I'm officially unemployed,

872
00:59:24,864 --> 00:59:27,004
working more than ever,

873
00:59:27,004 --> 00:59:29,704
and I feel happier and more satisfied than ever.

874
00:59:30,144 --> 00:59:31,604
So it's beautiful.

875
00:59:31,984 --> 00:59:33,784
And I think everything we are doing

876
00:59:33,784 --> 00:59:34,904
as Bitcoin Film Fest,

877
00:59:34,964 --> 00:59:36,004
it's also, you know,

878
00:59:36,064 --> 00:59:37,984
like helping in the long term

879
00:59:37,984 --> 00:59:39,864
this entire community

880
00:59:39,864 --> 00:59:41,124
because we have filmmakers,

881
00:59:41,964 --> 00:59:45,104
ads, cameramen, artists, musicians,

882
00:59:45,484 --> 00:59:46,504
and it's paying back.

883
00:59:46,884 --> 00:59:48,224
So yeah, it's awesome.

884
00:59:48,364 --> 00:59:50,104
Like you don't always need money

885
00:59:50,104 --> 00:59:55,044
to feel gratitude and to be paid by doing your job.

886
00:59:55,324 --> 00:59:55,644
So, yeah.

887
00:59:57,884 --> 00:59:58,824
And Tomek?

888
00:59:59,004 --> 01:00:01,404
Yeah, Avi, if Bitcoin goes to zero,

889
01:00:01,524 --> 01:00:04,384
just think about all the friends we gained along the way.

890
01:00:05,444 --> 01:00:06,284
That is true.

891
01:00:06,944 --> 01:00:08,784
But honestly, speaking of money,

892
01:00:08,784 --> 01:00:17,224
so I hope that some money will be coming faster

893
01:00:17,224 --> 01:00:25,024
and bigger tranches to the filmmaking industry because as you also before you guys raised the

894
01:00:25,024 --> 01:00:30,064
topic you said that it's not very cheap and easy to produce quality content this is the first thing

895
01:00:30,064 --> 01:00:37,664
and also I hope that yeah we will get like also valuable sponsors because yeah we are doing it

896
01:00:37,664 --> 01:00:45,304
as volunteers not to earn money but you know everything we do also cost money so yeah this

897
01:00:45,304 --> 01:00:50,824
is like a pretty important topic i mean talking about money i think it's it should be a natural

898
01:00:50,824 --> 01:00:57,924
thing at least so yeah i also hope that um bitcoin film fest will be more recognized by

899
01:00:57,924 --> 01:01:04,564
some specific brands that will appreciate um collaboration by rewarding us um financially

900
01:01:04,564 --> 01:01:11,604
you know that just triggered a thought as a what you said about uh you know needing a lot of money

901
01:01:11,604 --> 01:01:13,924
to make quality content.

902
01:01:14,704 --> 01:01:17,544
There's got to be some angle here

903
01:01:17,544 --> 01:01:19,864
that I'm not quite able to think about

904
01:01:19,864 --> 01:01:25,784
where Bitcoin gains can be laundered into cinema

905
01:01:25,784 --> 01:01:28,684
by funding great art.

906
01:01:28,824 --> 01:01:30,844
Or maybe it doesn't have to be money laundering.

907
01:01:30,844 --> 01:01:34,204
It can be tax loss harvesting of some sort.

908
01:01:34,764 --> 01:01:36,404
I need to think this through a little more.

909
01:01:38,844 --> 01:01:41,284
I mean, you do see that happening in modern art, right?

910
01:01:41,284 --> 01:01:44,964
There is so much money laundering with modern art.

911
01:01:45,184 --> 01:01:48,284
And I wonder if there's an angle for film as well.

912
01:01:52,284 --> 01:01:53,684
Don't try this at home, kids.

913
01:01:53,704 --> 01:01:57,104
If you're a sponsor, if you're listening to the show,

914
01:01:57,824 --> 01:02:00,164
approach Bitcoin Film Festival.

915
01:02:00,744 --> 01:02:02,284
Let's get some sponsorships.

916
01:02:03,064 --> 01:02:06,644
Let's allow them to not worry about the financials

917
01:02:06,644 --> 01:02:08,124
and focus on their art.

918
01:02:08,304 --> 01:02:09,604
That is their planning.

919
01:02:09,604 --> 01:02:11,164
That is their event.

920
01:02:11,284 --> 01:02:15,064
Um, and, uh, let's just get the flywheel effect going.

921
01:02:17,224 --> 01:02:21,504
Thanks, but I think it's also for the entire cultural realm, right?

922
01:02:21,604 --> 01:02:27,824
I mean, thanks to, um, Noster, now it's much easier to even like collect the limit of, um,

923
01:02:28,684 --> 01:02:36,804
zaps, um, whether you are a musician or like whichever, um, artistic, um, forms you, you

924
01:02:36,804 --> 01:02:37,124
practice.

925
01:02:37,204 --> 01:02:41,164
So thanks to Noster, it's much, much easier, but you know, all these people are,

926
01:02:41,284 --> 01:02:46,644
somehow also they need food they need shelter right even as basic things or just materials to

927
01:02:46,644 --> 01:02:52,824
perform their work so um i really hope there will be no money laundering but i hope that

928
01:02:52,824 --> 01:03:00,324
more people um from different angles will just appreciate art a little bit more um and just try

929
01:03:00,324 --> 01:03:06,624
to find ways to collaborate to just you know value for value or just like directly sponsor

930
01:03:06,624 --> 01:03:10,984
because they see a point in this area.

931
01:03:11,504 --> 01:03:12,164
So, let's see.

932
01:03:14,144 --> 01:03:14,504
Indeed.

933
01:03:14,964 --> 01:03:17,344
A wise man once said, money laundering is beautiful,

934
01:03:17,484 --> 01:03:19,504
but probably not a good idea to do it.

935
01:03:24,204 --> 01:03:26,044
We should do a show on that, Avi.

936
01:03:27,084 --> 01:03:30,824
There is a Bitcoiner talk that the title is

937
01:03:30,824 --> 01:03:31,864
Money Laundering is Beautiful,

938
01:03:32,204 --> 01:03:33,904
but it's obviously tongue-in-cheek.

939
01:03:34,704 --> 01:03:35,624
So, what are you thinking?

940
01:03:35,624 --> 01:03:38,324
Sounds like a very libertarian talk.

941
01:03:38,884 --> 01:03:39,644
Yeah, exactly.

942
01:03:40,464 --> 01:03:44,544
Actually, on that topic, on a more serious note,

943
01:03:45,744 --> 01:03:50,524
obviously you're talking about doing 2026 now.

944
01:03:51,364 --> 01:03:56,264
Presumably, it is not too much of a financial burden, right?

945
01:03:56,384 --> 01:03:59,504
Meaning you're at least breaking even on these things

946
01:03:59,504 --> 01:04:02,324
because I've seen the amount of work that goes into this, right?

947
01:04:02,324 --> 01:04:05,644
firsthand I've seen the amount of production

948
01:04:05,644 --> 01:04:07,284
and the staff and everything else

949
01:04:07,284 --> 01:04:09,764
well obviously many of them are volunteers

950
01:04:09,764 --> 01:04:10,704
but still

951
01:04:10,704 --> 01:04:13,704
presumably you're not losing

952
01:04:13,704 --> 01:04:14,344
money on this

953
01:04:14,344 --> 01:04:15,724
no no no this is actually

954
01:04:15,724 --> 01:04:18,364
we put some money into the

955
01:04:18,364 --> 01:04:19,424
first edition

956
01:04:19,424 --> 01:04:22,164
because of course you need to build a brand

957
01:04:22,164 --> 01:04:24,384
and many things

958
01:04:24,384 --> 01:04:26,124
cost more

959
01:04:26,124 --> 01:04:27,284
the first time

960
01:04:27,284 --> 01:04:28,664
and some of the

961
01:04:28,664 --> 01:04:31,524
decorations we can reuse

962
01:04:31,524 --> 01:04:43,924
But still, now we put money into the first event and the next one we actually had some savings on top of the costs, mostly thanks to sponsors.

963
01:04:44,284 --> 01:04:48,484
Tickets, of course, contribute to it, but most of the budget comes from sponsors.

964
01:04:49,384 --> 01:05:00,344
And this year we expect even larger surplus so we can sustain this activism for a whole year because really the film festival, the event in Warsaw,

965
01:05:00,344 --> 01:05:05,504
is one of the various things that we as Bitcoin Film Fest are doing.

966
01:05:06,164 --> 01:05:10,544
So for this to exist and for this monthly newsletter and research and network

967
01:05:10,544 --> 01:05:17,384
and the promotion of Bitcoin Cinema, I think it's also growing in a good tempo.

968
01:05:17,384 --> 01:05:22,924
We have some funds, we have some savings now, and thanks to sponsors we can finance and tickets.

969
01:05:23,344 --> 01:05:25,524
We can finance this event and make it better.

970
01:05:26,844 --> 01:05:29,304
No, actually, we can't complain on that side.

971
01:05:29,304 --> 01:05:31,624
and thanks to all of our supporters.

972
01:05:31,624 --> 01:05:36,104
And on our website you can find their logos and thanks and credits.

973
01:05:37,224 --> 01:05:41,104
But I believe they do it mostly from their good heart

974
01:05:41,104 --> 01:05:45,384
because they want to support Bitcoin Cinema.

975
01:05:45,384 --> 01:05:49,184
And also they don't just support the festival.

976
01:05:49,184 --> 01:05:53,344
And our sponsors are interested in supporting filmmakers.

977
01:05:53,344 --> 01:05:54,984
That's why they also do it.

978
01:05:54,984 --> 01:05:58,824
So our event is also an opportunity for filmmakers to meet donors

979
01:05:58,824 --> 01:06:02,324
and vice versa, those who want to invest in movies or support them,

980
01:06:02,584 --> 01:06:03,844
they can come and meet filmmakers.

981
01:06:04,324 --> 01:06:05,924
We have dedicated space for that.

982
01:06:06,064 --> 01:06:07,724
We have producers dinner on Saturday

983
01:06:07,724 --> 01:06:12,524
where we match filmmakers with people who want to support films

984
01:06:12,524 --> 01:06:14,584
and also a pitch contest on Friday

985
01:06:14,584 --> 01:06:20,764
where 3,000 euros grant is provided by Bitrefill and by Angor.

986
01:06:22,304 --> 01:06:27,144
So, you know, this is something that connects films and audience

987
01:06:27,144 --> 01:06:28,784
and filmmakers and sponsors.

988
01:06:29,404 --> 01:06:42,260
It all needs to go in parallel for us to have better movies faster And you know cinema is also the next industry that Bitcoin eventually will capture We are here already

989
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,020
We talked about stories and fiction,

990
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,600
film, Bitcoin films, right?

991
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:59,720
But when do you see a truly grand production,

992
01:06:59,940 --> 01:07:03,380
like Hollywood quality, just in terms of...

993
01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:04,920
Tarantino gets orange peel.

994
01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:11,580
But do you see any Bitcoin stories on the horizon

995
01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:13,380
that could become that?

996
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,180
When is the story of Satoshi going to be?

997
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,220
There are some documentaries, right?

998
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:26,320
But yeah, this is probably the biggest story

999
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,060
that should be adapted.

1000
01:07:27,060 --> 01:07:29,920
It's probably the wealthiest man or woman in the world,

1001
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,540
the wealthiest figure.

1002
01:07:31,540 --> 01:07:35,780
wealthiest is not the first adjective that comes to my mind when I think of

1003
01:07:35,780 --> 01:07:42,160
Satoshi he's probably no but when yeah well that too I'm talking about I'm not

1004
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,520
sure would it be would he be the wealthiest I guess by liquid assets right

1005
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,880
because I know if like you can't Elon Musk assets as like this on the comp on

1006
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:57,220
the par with whatever Bitcoin might be on Satoshi's wallet I think yes 5x from

1007
01:07:57,220 --> 01:07:59,220
here he probably would be

1008
01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:02,440
but go ahead Thomas

1009
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,900
this is the biggest story right

1010
01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:06,900
in November he was the

1011
01:08:06,900 --> 01:08:08,720
in November he was the

1012
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,940
guys the fiat world is the best story

1013
01:08:10,940 --> 01:08:13,080
for a horror comedy

1014
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,660
kind of mix

1015
01:08:14,660 --> 01:08:16,620
this is like the clown world

1016
01:08:16,620 --> 01:08:18,640
I mean we don't need to really like

1017
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,520
have a 100% bitcoin movie

1018
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,720
if you find a good

1019
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,520
sponsor for me I see day and night

1020
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,580
anyway I'm the night owl and I write a couple

1021
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:35,020
of scripts promise it will happen eventually right but think about it the entire clown world

1022
01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:41,760
like what's happening currently in the last whatever years uh as far as we know because

1023
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:50,560
it either goes hundreds yeah cool cool topics it either needs like a strong filmmaker with a

1024
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:57,680
persona and ability being also a producer who got orange peeled and wants to tell some story

1025
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:04,720
that is about bitcoin or or maybe somehow with these values for decentralization privacy freedom

1026
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:12,160
somebody maybe like tarantino maybe somebody like zach snyder or this type of persona or we would

1027
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:18,720
need to wait much longer because you guys know how many to make a big studio production how many

1028
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:25,720
steps there are, how many people need to accept certain things to happen and come to the cinema,

1029
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:31,720
that you need all of them, all of this script writer, editor, producer, sponsor, distributor,

1030
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:38,720
to be somehow aligned, to tell actually, you know, good, romantic, realistic story,

1031
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:45,720
which is like, story itself is orange peel. There is no Bitcoin, but the story makes you,

1032
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,420
All right, I don't trust the system.

1033
01:09:47,540 --> 01:09:51,680
We need something truer, especially in the realm of money.

1034
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,120
Because this is what movies are, right?

1035
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,280
What we expect movies to be, to inspire us.

1036
01:09:57,180 --> 01:10:01,820
Great, it's great to have educational videos that tell us what is Bitcoin.

1037
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,420
Some of them try to tell us what to think.

1038
01:10:04,420 --> 01:10:11,780
But the true potential of films and cinema, I guess, in Bitcoin cinema is not yet realized.

1039
01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:16,120
that lies in this power to influence, inspire,

1040
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:19,540
influence your thoughts to make you think for yourself.

1041
01:10:20,020 --> 01:10:22,280
All right, I want true money.

1042
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:24,520
What is this Bitcoin thing maybe comes later

1043
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,000
rather than movies telling you, hey, you should get a Bitcoin.

1044
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,580
Powerful cinema goes through stories,

1045
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,940
through tickling your thoughts,

1046
01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:35,800
not to putting things onto your thoughts.

1047
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,000
And we have to yet wait for such big movies,

1048
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:44,840
but you know some stories like that already happen shorts ai right there is somebody who had this

1049
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:52,660
nice idea and is putting ai helps him put this onto 69 ratio screen that already starts looking

1050
01:10:52,660 --> 01:10:59,120
good so maybe ai actually makes such things to come faster who knows i hope yeah and this entire

1051
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:04,780
space if i may add something like it's growing you know like look we have also fiction books

1052
01:11:04,780 --> 01:11:12,280
better and better we have personally I'm a big fan a new show that is like audio

1053
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:19,120
I cannot call it podcast though they are it's the Bitcoin Citadel Citadel like

1054
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,660
the secrets of the Bitcoin Citadel or something so it's like a fiction story

1055
01:11:22,660 --> 01:11:26,540
that you can just listen like audiobooks some kind of stuff if you haven't

1056
01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:29,860
chance just check it out because it's awesome it's new and it's again like

1057
01:11:29,860 --> 01:11:34,360
fiction story just woven Bitcoin a little bit somewhere but it's a super

1058
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:41,480
cool stuff you can visually imagine how it looks because it's so real so yeah books um this kind of

1059
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:47,480
thing so more and more coming and faster and faster i think ai can accelerate it and if not

1060
01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:55,160
something else so the same as for bitcoin adoption i'm like more of you know give it its own pace i

1061
01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:02,040
think here we will see probably i hope probably in the next couple of years um quite a huge

1062
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:10,920
acceleration. So let's see. We have zero, I mean, there's no shortage of passion within the

1063
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:17,620
club community. So if we can find the tools to accelerate that, it's going to be a truly

1064
01:12:17,620 --> 01:12:23,920
remarkable time to be alive, especially in the film and just creative arts in general.

1065
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:31,620
I can see how AI can really accelerate a lot of that. And I know Avi's going to remove the V in

1066
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:34,900
his name pretty soon. He's just going to be AI Burra pretty soon.

1067
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,580
It's just a matter of time.

1068
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,320
My consciousness is in the process of being uploaded to AI.

1069
01:12:42,980 --> 01:12:44,300
It is happening soon.

1070
01:12:45,740 --> 01:12:49,060
So, Azza, I wanted to talk a couple of other things here.

1071
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,260
There's the, you had the Golden Rabbits Awards

1072
01:12:53,260 --> 01:12:57,020
last year, right? The equivalent of the Oscars

1073
01:12:57,020 --> 01:13:00,020
for the film first. And there was Best Picture, there was

1074
01:13:00,020 --> 01:13:07,160
best story and the audience choice three rabbits is it going to be the same this year or i think

1075
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,120
you said best uh ad as well right so you're adding a fourth category this year

1076
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:19,960
so the poise is a completely separate let's say smaller type of a gala i can still call so the

1077
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:26,420
rabbits are dedicated only to the cinema like really pure cinematic works um we are keeping

1078
01:13:26,420 --> 01:13:32,660
the same categories as last year um though let's see um how it can develop in the future because if

1079
01:13:32,660 --> 01:13:39,380
this year we are introducing this new um genre so to say based on ai which is currently short let's

1080
01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:43,940
see maybe we will change the categories in the future but for now yeah we have best story best

1081
01:13:43,940 --> 01:13:52,180
short best movie audience choice and then the poise is a separate um type of an award or recognition

1082
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:58,100
only for the commercials which are like video ads and then the entire integrated campaign so

1083
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:05,220
actually this year we have two types of awards yeah which is the rabbit for films and then the

1084
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:14,340
poey the po um the rabbit po for for advertising for proof of work yes proof of work exactly

1085
01:14:14,340 --> 01:14:20,980
or the powys p-o-w-i-e is that right so yes exactly it's like you know because it's again

1086
01:14:20,980 --> 01:14:29,140
you see the creativity craziness of our team um so mr rabbit this white rabbit again like

1087
01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:38,460
many different stories related to to this mascot of the festival um is yeah like representing let's

1088
01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:45,120
say the golden rabbit as as tomic said before our native oscars and then you have also different

1089
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:52,020
stories in different cultures that the rabbit's pow is something that brings slack and actually

1090
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:59,320
p-o-w which is the proof of work or po from the pop culture it sounds a little bit like a pow so

1091
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:05,940
po poes so it's like a mixing words playing with words um and still keeping them rabbit kind of

1092
01:15:05,940 --> 01:15:12,660
related um story behind it so yeah follow the rabbit and come to Warsaw

1093
01:15:12,660 --> 01:15:18,880
I think this is entering the GIF territory here, Aza,

1094
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,280
because P-O-W is, I would never pronounce that Po,

1095
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,500
I would pronounce that Pow.

1096
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,320
Yeah, I was saying that Pows,

1097
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,620
like Pows and so like Powies and Pows,

1098
01:15:35,860 --> 01:15:39,200
you know, it can be, let's say your brain can trick you

1099
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,780
in a different way, so you can somehow relay these things

1100
01:15:41,780 --> 01:15:43,480
or you can misspell them or whatever.

1101
01:15:43,660 --> 01:15:50,920
So there is some kind of tricky, creative, funny, crazy connection in between.

1102
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:55,640
That's why it's called Poe for Bitcoiners as a proof of work,

1103
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:00,000
but it can also somehow be related to the Poe of the rabbit, the Poe.

1104
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,060
Right.

1105
01:16:03,340 --> 01:16:04,060
All right.

1106
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,240
So I know it's early to think about this

1107
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,780
because it still heads down with 2025.

1108
01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:18,380
But how are you thinking 2026 might be different? Grander in some way?

1109
01:16:18,380 --> 01:16:21,220
No, please, no. Let's do the same.

1110
01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:38,016
It really good even that we don need to change improve many things It goes well as it is and then also it makes our lives easier organizing it Just bigger lasers more drone shows No we just wait for new movies guys

1111
01:16:38,336 --> 01:16:39,376
Yeah, exactly.

1112
01:16:39,376 --> 01:16:41,256
We try to show every...

1113
01:16:41,256 --> 01:16:42,036
There is like...

1114
01:16:42,036 --> 01:16:47,616
This year we have, what, three premieres, I believe, including shorts.

1115
01:16:47,976 --> 01:16:52,816
There is like one, two, three, ten new trailers.

1116
01:16:53,576 --> 01:16:54,736
So there is always like...

1117
01:16:54,736 --> 01:16:55,776
Things are buzzing.

1118
01:16:55,776 --> 01:17:00,436
We have more films that are yet not released rather than released this year.

1119
01:17:00,836 --> 01:17:02,856
So I can't wait for them to happen.

1120
01:17:02,976 --> 01:17:04,536
We already show them and discuss them.

1121
01:17:06,136 --> 01:17:11,016
This festival needs to, you know, every year we do this review and selection.

1122
01:17:11,476 --> 01:17:17,496
I can't wait for 26 because so many, probably Avi will make a few more episodes of Finding Home.

1123
01:17:18,516 --> 01:17:21,036
Maybe Legend of Landry will finally be released.

1124
01:17:21,036 --> 01:17:25,756
Maybe Lauren Sikerman will finally release Unbanked.

1125
01:17:25,776 --> 01:17:27,136
which trailer also we show.

1126
01:17:27,236 --> 01:17:30,116
And this movie is finished for over a year.

1127
01:17:30,596 --> 01:17:31,776
She keeps it, she keeps it.

1128
01:17:32,036 --> 01:17:32,916
Finally, we will see trailer.

1129
01:17:33,056 --> 01:17:34,236
This will be a trailer premiere.

1130
01:17:35,456 --> 01:17:37,516
Parallel Spaces maybe finally will be done

1131
01:17:37,516 --> 01:17:41,016
by a Bitcoiner from Slovakia.

1132
01:17:41,576 --> 01:17:44,616
This guy's film fest is good now,

1133
01:17:44,736 --> 01:17:47,296
but I can't wait what will be happening in the future.

1134
01:17:47,396 --> 01:17:48,456
So many good titles coming.

1135
01:17:50,816 --> 01:17:53,376
And you were switching to May now, Domek,

1136
01:17:53,456 --> 01:17:54,396
for next year as well?

1137
01:17:54,696 --> 01:17:55,376
Is that the plan?

1138
01:17:55,376 --> 01:17:56,776
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1139
01:17:56,776 --> 01:17:59,616
Better weather, better sun, of course.

1140
01:17:59,616 --> 01:18:01,656
It was brutally cold last year.

1141
01:18:01,656 --> 01:18:02,456
It was in April.

1142
01:18:02,456 --> 01:18:03,456
Don't say so.

1143
01:18:03,456 --> 01:18:04,456
It's not brutally.

1144
01:18:04,456 --> 01:18:06,216
Two years ago we made it in March.

1145
01:18:06,216 --> 01:18:07,216
It was a bit warmer.

1146
01:18:07,216 --> 01:18:12,936
But yes, April, by Polish sayings, is very mixed, mixed

1147
01:18:12,936 --> 01:18:16,656
and by experience as well, very mixed month in the weather.

1148
01:18:16,656 --> 01:18:18,936
So it's it was sunny all week.

1149
01:18:18,936 --> 01:18:19,776
Just festival.

1150
01:18:19,776 --> 01:18:22,136
Avi came to Poland and it started raining.

1151
01:18:22,136 --> 01:18:24,376
Avi left, sun came up again.

1152
01:18:24,376 --> 01:18:26,136
I don't know what was it.

1153
01:18:26,456 --> 01:18:28,756
It was probably coinciding with Film Festival.

1154
01:18:29,016 --> 01:18:30,956
Now, this year we expect, I was checking,

1155
01:18:31,036 --> 01:18:32,936
I'm checking every day and I was the forecast

1156
01:18:32,936 --> 01:18:34,716
and so far looks good.

1157
01:18:35,856 --> 01:18:41,056
Can I ask, so if I go back to Film Fest in 23, 24,

1158
01:18:41,456 --> 01:18:42,876
is there some sort of a directory

1159
01:18:42,876 --> 01:18:47,016
or some way I can actually go back and watch films?

1160
01:18:47,156 --> 01:18:48,156
It's kind of a quick...

1161
01:18:48,156 --> 01:18:49,396
This is this part of the website

1162
01:18:49,396 --> 01:18:51,876
that is still behind the curtains.

1163
01:18:51,876 --> 01:18:58,536
oh okay yeah because i mean obviously if i'm hearing about it now i'm questioning there is

1164
01:18:58,536 --> 01:19:04,916
actually what happened last year what happened the year before now we are uh often writing about it

1165
01:19:04,916 --> 01:19:11,816
but uh we partner with indie hub studio which is podcasting 2.0 but for videos i know maybe

1166
01:19:11,816 --> 01:19:20,736
video casting 2.0 very nice bitcoiner platform for vod and for netflix-like experience and we had

1167
01:19:20,736 --> 01:19:22,816
this VOD last

1168
01:19:22,816 --> 01:19:24,896
year for the film festival because not everybody

1169
01:19:24,896 --> 01:19:26,876
can attend in person

1170
01:19:26,876 --> 01:19:28,536
so you can guys acquire

1171
01:19:28,536 --> 01:19:30,916
digital tickets. Not everybody

1172
01:19:30,916 --> 01:19:32,856
who comes even to festival can see

1173
01:19:32,856 --> 01:19:34,916
everything so for 60

1174
01:19:34,916 --> 01:19:35,956
days after the festival

1175
01:19:35,956 --> 01:19:38,796
attendees and digital ticket holders

1176
01:19:38,796 --> 01:19:40,876
they have access to VOD

1177
01:19:40,876 --> 01:19:42,716
and those films are screened

1178
01:19:42,716 --> 01:19:44,536
on IndieHub

1179
01:19:44,536 --> 01:19:46,696
and also you can access films

1180
01:19:46,696 --> 01:19:48,376
from last year so

1181
01:19:48,376 --> 01:19:50,596
if you come to website and get

1182
01:19:50,596 --> 01:19:58,836
a digital ticket you can see last year movies there as well yeah fair point but maybe something

1183
01:19:58,836 --> 01:20:05,336
also extra to add um you know if the movie is deciding to premiere with us a good example is

1184
01:20:05,336 --> 01:20:12,376
alana the winner of last year the best movie dirty coin for a while at least like a year it will not

1185
01:20:12,376 --> 01:20:19,796
be really um available online um or for a couple of months six months or something so that's another

1186
01:20:19,796 --> 01:20:26,356
kind of reason why maybe you should decide to come and watch it with us on a big screen because

1187
01:20:27,236 --> 01:20:32,356
other than the festival or maybe a couple of other festivals you will not access it online anyway

1188
01:20:32,356 --> 01:20:39,156
maybe somehow you will get this vod like a temporary access um very exclusive but otherwise

1189
01:20:39,156 --> 01:20:46,756
it's only um around 12 months 24 months um going from festival to festival after a premiere so that's

1190
01:20:46,756 --> 01:20:47,516
standard.

1191
01:20:49,996 --> 01:20:52,456
Yeah, that reminds me of the Shooter episode, Avi.

1192
01:20:53,136 --> 01:20:59,436
I think he was trying to, he was hoping Netflix or HBO would pick it up, and it was kind of

1193
01:20:59,436 --> 01:21:02,056
just a one-watch ticket type of thing.

1194
01:21:02,816 --> 01:21:06,656
Well, actually, on that point, KW, so here's a question, Tom, Mike.

1195
01:21:07,136 --> 01:21:09,616
How come Shooter's movie isn't part of the lineup?

1196
01:21:10,496 --> 01:21:12,576
Oh, it's a part of lineup on VOD.

1197
01:21:12,576 --> 01:21:22,576
we as you know like so we need to select films and the priority is also taken by people who come

1198
01:21:22,576 --> 01:21:28,196
in person to the festival shooter unfortunately couldn't couldn't make it but we hope to show it

1199
01:21:28,196 --> 01:21:33,436
next year this year it will be available on indie hub so it's still it's also considered

1200
01:21:33,436 --> 01:21:37,796
for golden rabbits because it's probably the main contender being one of the best bitcoin

1201
01:21:37,796 --> 01:21:44,276
films released last year so let's see what Julie says yeah but that's another advantage right it's

1202
01:21:44,276 --> 01:21:49,316
not only like that you're having screenings you have the entire experience because if the crew

1203
01:21:49,316 --> 01:21:54,516
is coming or at least the director you have a Q&A session you can meet them you can you know chat

1204
01:21:54,516 --> 01:21:59,556
have a drink and stuff so you have this entire festival experience it's not like you just go to

1205
01:21:59,556 --> 01:22:04,676
the theater and you watch something and then maybe in the best case scenario you talk to a couple of

1206
01:22:04,676 --> 01:22:09,976
people about it but you can really meet these people and learn more about the story behind and

1207
01:22:09,976 --> 01:22:14,896
this and that so that's another um i would say unique that something that makes this whole

1208
01:22:14,896 --> 01:22:23,916
experience very unique great so tomek as uh anything else uh you want to plug

1209
01:22:23,916 --> 01:22:37,516
i can plug guys stay selfie stay healthy watch good movies enjoy good bitcoin events come if not

1210
01:22:37,516 --> 01:22:43,956
this year one year to warsaw or wherever we will be doing on film festival because it's not a

1211
01:22:43,956 --> 01:22:51,936
bitcoin conference it's a cultural event not only about bitcoin but about good art good sound good

1212
01:22:51,936 --> 01:23:00,336
people and if you are one of them come over yeah i can support the same um yeah use master more

1213
01:23:00,336 --> 01:23:07,376
um support independent creators um try to also be active in this realm because even by consuming

1214
01:23:07,376 --> 01:23:12,776
content and and giving feedback and making comments yeah you are also a creator in a way

1215
01:23:12,776 --> 01:23:19,316
and nostril is amazing um so yeah i hope more and more people will be actively using it not only as

1216
01:23:19,316 --> 01:23:21,436
social media because it's way beyond that.

1217
01:23:21,976 --> 01:23:23,356
And I hope to see some of you

1218
01:23:23,356 --> 01:23:25,396
at least in two weeks

1219
01:23:25,396 --> 01:23:26,856
actually in Warsaw.

1220
01:23:28,116 --> 01:23:29,756
Yeah, I would love to see

1221
01:23:29,756 --> 01:23:31,056
Zap.Stream

1222
01:23:31,056 --> 01:23:32,416
having movie

1223
01:23:32,416 --> 01:23:35,356
premieres where everyone can

1224
01:23:35,356 --> 01:23:36,356
chat while they're watching.

1225
01:23:36,916 --> 01:23:39,436
We will be streaming to Zap.Stream

1226
01:23:39,436 --> 01:23:40,996
at BFFTV.

1227
01:23:41,476 --> 01:23:43,216
We'll have a remote

1228
01:23:43,216 --> 01:23:45,036
studio at the Film Festival so

1229
01:23:45,036 --> 01:23:47,296
if you guys cannot come in

1230
01:23:47,296 --> 01:23:48,996
person, you can watch

1231
01:23:48,996 --> 01:23:55,076
not movies but reporters interviews with our guests with filmmakers some shorts some

1232
01:23:55,076 --> 01:24:00,136
advertisements some trailers will be also screened online so i expect if everything happens good

1233
01:24:00,136 --> 01:24:07,776
inshallah if we organize this stream properly for today saturday and sunday of the festival

1234
01:24:07,776 --> 01:24:14,796
on nostr in polish afternoon you will be able to see five hours on each day of various content

1235
01:24:14,796 --> 01:24:21,076
from talks through quiz to shorts advertisement and of course sponsors thank you and chat with

1236
01:24:21,076 --> 01:24:26,616
you guys on nostril you will see us on zapstream as well so expect the bitcoin film fest on zapstream

1237
01:24:26,616 --> 01:24:30,096
amazing

1238
01:24:30,096 --> 01:24:41,656
your name speaking of like uh um twisting or changing words um connected to inshallah

1239
01:24:41,656 --> 01:24:43,616
Avi sounds a little bit like Abby.

1240
01:24:43,836 --> 01:24:46,636
In Turkish, you would literally pronounce your name this way,

1241
01:24:46,736 --> 01:24:49,516
which officially means brother, but you really use it as bro.

1242
01:24:49,976 --> 01:24:53,576
So whenever you go to Turkey, expect that when you introduce yourself,

1243
01:24:53,676 --> 01:24:55,736
people might look at you kind of like, huh?

1244
01:24:57,276 --> 01:24:59,356
Bro, bro, bro, bro.

1245
01:24:59,736 --> 01:25:00,016
Yeah.

1246
01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:01,576
Excellent.

1247
01:25:03,816 --> 01:25:04,976
Today I learned.

1248
01:25:05,536 --> 01:25:07,076
Yeah, language lesson at the end.

1249
01:25:10,076 --> 01:25:10,776
Love it.

1250
01:25:11,656 --> 01:25:12,976
Anything else from you, QW?

1251
01:25:14,276 --> 01:25:15,736
No, no, that's it.

1252
01:25:16,996 --> 01:25:19,736
Every time I have this show, I get just FOMO

1253
01:25:19,736 --> 01:25:22,116
because I really want to go to Poland.

1254
01:25:23,316 --> 01:25:24,576
And same with Prague.

1255
01:25:24,776 --> 01:25:27,456
I mean, there's a few of them that, you know, I just...

1256
01:25:27,456 --> 01:25:28,336
And Madeira also.

1257
01:25:28,496 --> 01:25:30,356
Those are probably the top three for me

1258
01:25:30,356 --> 01:25:34,376
that we have conversations and I just want to be there.

1259
01:25:34,376 --> 01:25:37,296
So one day, it's a bucket list.

1260
01:25:39,216 --> 01:25:39,776
Excellent.

1261
01:25:39,776 --> 01:25:45,236
Well, Tomek, Aza, really appreciate both of you taking the time.

1262
01:25:45,336 --> 01:25:46,896
I know it's late in Poland.

1263
01:25:46,896 --> 01:25:48,816
Thank you for the invite, guys.

1264
01:25:49,156 --> 01:25:49,956
It was a pleasure.

1265
01:25:50,636 --> 01:25:53,076
Thank you, audience who was commenting on Nostr.

1266
01:25:53,536 --> 01:25:54,596
Good morning, everyone.

1267
01:25:56,616 --> 01:25:57,316
Yes, indeed.

1268
01:25:57,436 --> 01:25:58,856
Thank you to our live audience.

1269
01:25:59,716 --> 01:26:03,716
Yeah, it was beautiful talking with you again for the third time, Tomek.

1270
01:26:03,876 --> 01:26:05,816
And Aza, pleasure to meet you.

1271
01:26:05,816 --> 01:26:11,476
So anybody listening, please support the Value for Value movement.

1272
01:26:11,856 --> 01:26:14,876
Join us on the Noster Client Fountain.

1273
01:26:15,556 --> 01:26:18,696
Make your presence felt and give us a little love.

1274
01:26:18,936 --> 01:26:19,956
And we'll see you next week.

1275
01:26:20,876 --> 01:26:21,596
Goodbye.