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Welcome to Sunday Brunch.

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Welcome, everyone, to the lightning-laced airwaves of Pleb Chain Radio

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for the latest serving of your Sunday Brunch.

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This is the show where you take a break from the outside mayhem

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and catch up with friends over your favorite music from the Value for Value community.

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As you can tell, Avi is out today.

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So with the mic being open, for the first time you're stuck here with Open Mic as guest host.

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But don't fear because we have an incredible guest for you

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and he's brought a banger of a songwriter for everyone today.

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As a reminder, this show has no ads and no sponsors

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and is running wholly as a V4V production on the energy and support of the listeners.

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While the songs are playing, the support goes to the artist, and during discussions, the sats flow to the show itself.

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Today is Sunday, February 15th, and I am joined by the one and only, the man, the myth, the legend, Tatum Turnip.

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Now, Tatum needs no introduction, but you may know him as the creator and host of Between

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Two Asics and an OG in the space.

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I want to welcome Tatum to the show here and I'm excited for this conversation.

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How's it going, Tatum?

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It is going well.

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I'm excited to be here, happy to be.

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This is my first, I guess, radio show that I've done and I'm really excited for it.

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So I've, uh, I got some good tracks that I've picked out and yeah, this is, uh, it's going to be fun.

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Yeah, man. I mean, I got to ask, you got the, you've got the killer, the killer playlist.

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Are you wearing the vest right now?

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Uh, uh, I don't know if I should lie or not.

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Uh, no, I will admit I'm not wearing the vest right now after I, uh, I, I, I mean, honestly, if we're being transparent, I think the vest was, uh,

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one of the worst things to ever happen to me.

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And what I mean is that while one,

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it is hilarious and very rememberable or memorable,

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sorry.

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Once you actually do that at like at a conference,

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it,

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and you realize you're stuck with it.

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It really sucks because like,

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I remember the first time I had it at a conference at the conference in

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Miami.

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I mean,

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I had to wear it.

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It's my brand.

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and I would take it off and there would just be like still a vest,

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but made of sweat on my shirt.

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And also this might be a little TMI, but my nipples,

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they do not like the vest either.

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It is rough.

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Those things are heavy.

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Well, this one, okay.

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This one is not, it does not have any plates in it.

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People always ask me.

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So yes, it is a little LARPy, but it is hot.

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It's hot and itchy, but it is not that heavy.

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Luckily.

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tell me tell me a bit about the uh the origin i'm always like i love the show i actually

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i met you for the first time i remember at the uh the first ever irl nostrich flock when we all

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got together in miami for the uh the karaoke night at uh what was it called kill rock stars i think

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i can't remember what it was called but i i do it was a cool spot the whole the whole night was a

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little bit of a blur let me say i think yeah i think we yeah everybody was uh having a good time

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and uh also have you hear any rumors about derrick ross in a pole dancing pole i yeah and it was

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a very prominently placed pole up above looking over the whole venue

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um i just remember you jamming to sugar hill gang yeah and they played the long version yeah

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and i realized it i was like wait a second this one is nine minutes long and i i was like okay

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guys can y'all cut it but you stuck with it though man you were you were jamming i was i

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there was something a longer portion of it than normal yeah it was it was real fun um but yeah the

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the origin of the vest is way it it's a lot more uh it's not as exciting as people want it to be

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i think but it's still kind of fun i uh i think it started i was watching a music video or something

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where the guy where the guy in the video had a bulletproof vest on in a situation he definitely

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didn't need one on. And I thought to myself, that's sick. I want one. And so I went on Amazon,

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you know, where you can get anything. And I saw one that was like 30 bucks or something. And

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I knew it wasn't going to be actually bulletproof. And I ordered it. And I honestly forgot about it

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within like five days it took to get to me. And I opened it. I was like, oh, sick. And I took it

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out of the package put it on once looked in the mirror and I was like cool uh where am I going to

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wear this and so it kind of just sat like in the corner of my office for a very long time and um

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then I one day I had a a call for work and it I was working remotely so I had you know my

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sweatpants on but then I had a button-up shirt and a tie um and then right after that I had another

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call uh that was non-work related and I was like oh wait this will be funny let me put the vest on

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over this and so I put the vest on over my button-up and and tie and it first of all it was

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hilarious um and someone grabbed a screenshot of it and I was like well this is my personality now

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and so it was my profile picture for a while uh and then i decided that i wanted to do between two

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asics and i don't really know why i thought to have the vest as my uniform but i did and now

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it's stuck so uh yeah that vest is is part of me now that's awesome did anybody uh i'm looking at

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the original you've got quite an impressive lineup of guests um did anybody just come right

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out of the gate and ask why you're wearing it or they just accept it they just accept this as the

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guy everyone and and so i knew that that was going to be a common question and so i i i thought of

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a few different routes to go with that so one of my favorite streamers is grand poo bear and

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but he so confidently tells a different story every single time and makes it

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seem very legitimate.

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time on why I wear this quote unquote bulletproof vest.

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just in case.

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have asked me just in case of what.

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I live in America this is like normal or something

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but yeah it's literally just in case

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what was the inspiration

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I mean obviously the satire

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spoof on the original show

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but what was your inspiration

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for putting together the program

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and how did you pull it all together

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you had some I mean

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but some pretty incredible guests uh jack dorsey episode 10 was that down in nasta rica yep that

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was uh my first uh filming abroad um yeah it really just started as me i've always kind of

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been like the class clown uh and kind of just the fun loving goofy guy that will find the the humor

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and whatever it is no matter how morbid um and yes that has gotten me in trouble sometimes but uh

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I got in the Bitcoin space, and this is a little longer winded, but I'll try to abbreviate it a little bit.

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But when I got into the Bitcoin space, I was working in TradFi, which is ironically what radicalized me.

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And then I, long story short, I quit my TradFi job with no plan whatsoever, except that I wanted to work in the Bitcoin space somehow.

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and I really did not know what I wanted to do.

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I thought at first I wanted to use my TradFi background

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to kind of see if I can work on some sort of integration

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between Bitcoin and traditional finance.

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That didn't work.

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I didn't even want to be in TradFi, honestly.

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But then I was like, you know what?

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I'm going to try to show my proof of work.

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I don't know what that's going to be.

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And of course, everyone had a podcast and I was seeing all these people.

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This is when I started like I started getting a little bigger on Bitcoin Twitter, not like

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big, big, but like I was making some meaningful connections with people and actually learning

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and asking questions and stuff.

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So I started a blog called Explain Bitcoin Like I'm Five, where, as you could assume, I explained Bitcoin in like five-year-old terms, basically.

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And I did that for probably two or three posts, I want to say.

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But then I realized, like, I'm not a long-form writer.

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and so while I did feel a little success there I didn't see any returns or anything not necessarily

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financially or anything like that but like I didn't get any satisfaction from it and it was

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too difficult for me to be a long-form rider then I uh tried to do some hardware wallet tutorial

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videos which I did one on uh Trezor which might still be on my YouTube I can't remember

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but I realized that because I did have a deep fascination with hardware wallets and I still do

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they're extremely cool but filming that that and like the amount of takes the amount of mess ups

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the amount of uh just going in circles was so long like the video ended up being maybe 20 minutes

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But it took me probably, I'd say, a collective five hours to film it.

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And then that turned into another maybe five hours to edit it.

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And it was just, it was not sustainable at all.

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And then, of course, I went down the podcast route, or at least tried.

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That didn't even get off the ground.

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And I kind of just realized, I think I was watching, I think the moment was,

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I was watching Dylan LeClaire on a mainstream media outlet. And I said to myself, like,

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if I ever interviewed him, I'd ask, I can't even remember what it was now. But like,

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it was something that wasn't like an actual question. It was like a satirical, silly,

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stupid question. And I started just kind of like making a little little notes on like jokes

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targeted towards Bitcoiners that people know and listen to. And I realized, wait a second,

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I can do something out of this. And I've always loved Between Two Ferns. It is one of my favorite

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pieces of entertainment because so many reasons why. But I was like, you know what, I'm going to

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Bitcoinize this. And I just had this, I still have the screenshot of the discord message I sent in a

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group of some Bitcoiners that I hadn met It said something like I have a stupid idea It might work It might not And I just started working on it and I wrote an entire script for

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or I think I can't remember if it,

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if I wrote the scripts first or no,

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I think that I was,

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I just started reaching out to people.

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I started a Geyser fund.

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excuse me.

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And luckily I would not be where I am right now without Geyser.

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and I'm eternally thankful for them.

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This was before you could actually just publish your own and you had to

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submit projects for crowdfunding.

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their crowdfunding or their submissions for like a revamp or whatever.

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But I reached out to them and I can't remember if it was Stelios,

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or both of them reached back out and was like,

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this is actually really good.

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And we want to make one for you.

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So we're going to do that.

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I was like, oh, nice. And so I was doing these promos and stuff. I got I got my dad, who's a photographer, to it.

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It was really difficult to explain what I wanted him to do. I said, hey, man, I need to come up to your studio in this bulletproof vest and have these miners.

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I need you to take some pictures. He goes, all right, I'll just do whatever.

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And so he did that. I was making these promos, putting them on Geyser. And one of the cool side stories of it was I did some incentive structures where if you donated X amount of sats, I would put you in the credits or X amount of sats, I would give you a shout out. X amount of sats, I put a sticker on one of the ASICs.

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And then as like a Hail Mary, when I said like, I want to say it was if you send me a million sats, I'll get the.

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Oh, no, it was a timed thing.

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I said, if I make a million sats towards this in the matter of X amount of days or whatever, I'll get the supply formula tattooed on my arm.

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And Brad Mills donated a metric buttload of sats.

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I don't remember how much it was, but it just blew that goal out of the water.

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And so I was like, all right, well, I got to go get this tattoo.

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So I did get the tattoo.

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It wasn't until I'm kind of skipping forward, but it wasn't until a couple months later,

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I was on a space with him.

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And I said, Brad, did you know that you're responsible for my tattoo?

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He goes, what are you talking about?

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And I explained it all to him.

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He goes, I had no idea.

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And so Brad Mills is the reason that I have a supply formula tattoo.

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But from there, I literally once I got enough money to kind of plan out a trip because it wasn't going to be I knew that it could not be virtual.

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It had to be in person because that's how the jokes would land.

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I literally just started cold emailing people.

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I'm talking I reach out to Sailor.

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I reach out to I reach out to several people and some of them I don't really want to mention right now because of the.

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Just some reasons.

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But I also reached out to Anthony Pompliano, and he didn't respond to me, obviously.

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I mean, it wasn't expected.

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The turning point was, so previously, I was in Anthony Pompliano's Crypto Academy,

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which, ironically enough, is what fully orange-pilled me.

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I was a large-scale crypto bro in the shitcoinery and stuff,

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But some of his coaches who are still some of my best friends helped me understand what actually being a Bitcoiner was.

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And so I had been, you know, shit posting on Twitter all the time on my birthday in 2022.

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I post on Twitter for no reason whatsoever at a Pompliano.

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Do you have something to tell me?

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And just because it was my birthday and I knew he wasn't going to see it.

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well, I go check my DMs and I see Anthony Pompliano in him.

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And he said, what do I need to tell you?

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And I go, okay, hold on.

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I didn't expect to get this far.

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And so I like kind of explained like that was just like a shit post.

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I'm sorry.

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I was, it's my birthday and that's what I meant by it.

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And so he goes back and responds and says, happy birthday.

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And I was like, you know what?

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Hell yeah.

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and so I went back to the DM since I was now in there and I was like by the way uh I don't know

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I sent an email to your media inquiry or whatever he goes send it to my personal and I was like oh

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my god it's happening and so I sent him a script an idea everything and he was like you know what

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that sounds great let's do it so I booked a flight to Miami and filmed with him and that was that was

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the start and then he subsequently got Peter McCormick my second guest uh I filmed that while

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I was in Miami because Peter was in Miami too he texted Peter and said hey you got to do this show

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and so I've got to no matter what your opinion is on Anthony Pompliano I owe him so much he he

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was one of the reasons I'm still here um and got got where I am same with Geyser yeah that long

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winded but yeah that was how it kind of started and it's it's just a really fun story that i'm

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really glad that that happened like it's it's one of those things that i'm going to tell my kids and

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it it's kind of just it's a big moment it was a big moment in my life that's awesome i'm glad

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you shared that because i look at your i looked at the history of between two asics and i'm like

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how did you come out of the gate with that one i still don't even know man i guess just being

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an idiot on Twitter sometimes works.

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That's great.

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That's great.

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So what do you got?

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I mean, this is, yeah, it's incredible.

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A lineup.

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Anthony Pompliano, McCormick, Sessions, Joe Consori, Dennis Porter, Eric Yakes, Jack Dorsey,

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Max and Stacey, Mark Goodwin, double dip with McCormick.

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Yeah, McCormick was the first one that had two appearances.

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And it was crazy because he actually wanted to film again with me.

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He asked me while we were at the Bitcoin conference.

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When I filmed with him the first time and Pomp, that was just me traveling to them.

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But the second time was at the conference.

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And he was like, him and Danny were like, hey, are you filming?

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We want to do another episode.

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I was like, yes, absolutely.

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I still think people ask me who my favorite guest is.

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And of course I have to be like, Oh, I love all my guests.

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I have some guests that are good. Some guests that are bad.

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And my,

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my two best guests that I've ever had are Peter and Jack Dorsey.

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Cause in both of them, at least the first one with Peter in both of them,

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I legitimately thought that I had pissed them off while we were filming.

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And as we kept going, I,

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I was fighting in my head of do I need to cut this right now?

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no I need to just finish it out we're here let's do it and it wasn't until the cameras cut that

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they both were like oh dude that was hilarious that's gonna cut great I was like oh thank god

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I think I think I actually got both their reactions um Peter the first time walked off

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as I was doing the closer and picked up his phone and started talking to someone

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and I was like I just got to do this

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this outro uh thanks for

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watching whatever yada yada and

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I was like alright I think we're good

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I'm sorry if that was too much

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and he goes oh no mate that was hilarious

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and I was like oh thank

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god um and

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same thing with Jack I he was like

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oh man that was really funny so

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yeah that's great

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well I'm gonna cut to your first song I wanna

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pick this up when we get off the

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the uh V4V

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DJ here, but tell me about

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the Tokyo Citadel

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remix that you picked. Yeah, this is

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Man Like Quecks, and it's a

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remix by Richard,

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and I think

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I first heard this

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at the

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at the having, I want to say,

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on one of

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the websites, I can't remember, but

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I was like, and it was also a video as

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well, I was like, this is the coolest thing

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I've ever seen, and I really like electronic

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music as well so uh this this kind of scratched all the areas of my brain love it well everybody

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enjoy this is tokyo citadel remix we are getting reports that man like quakes has left tanzania

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authorities believe he is starting a citadel on a different continent he is still at large

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for owning his private keys

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Tokyo drifting, what Nakimoto gifted

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These dollars don't make sense, no longer on the fence

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Bitcoin only, homie, Michael Saylor told me

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Ain't no second best, it's my one and only

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Fear taking L's, Bitcoin doing well

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I'm in Tokyo, at the Ciddell

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Konichiwa, wife like red dot GTI

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DCA to BTC, stacking sats, it's my name, sure

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Hey, call DTY, white flight red dot GTI

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DCA to BTC, stack and status manager

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Tick tock, next block, this is a major epoch

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My C phrase, I keep locked, don't worry about what we got

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Tick tock, next block, tick tock, next block

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Tick tock, next block, tick tock, next block

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Tick tock, next block

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Tick tock, next block

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Yes.

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No second best, best.

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This is a major epop

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Tick tock, next block

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This is a major epop

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Tick tock, next block

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Don't worry about what we've done

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Tick tock, tick tock

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Tick tock, tick tock

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ED

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The whereabouts of man-like Quakes is still unknown.

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Authorities are still unsure of his motives for promoting banned words such as self-custody and sovereignty.

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Love it. Love it.

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Excellent banger.

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I was just texting with Quakes yesterday, and I still have never met him in person because he's in Tanzania.

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and uh feel like feel like i know him well i do know him but um he's gonna be in prog this year

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so anybody who's making their making their way to that conference um get a chance to see him

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perform potentially in person i really need to i need to reach back out to him we we were we were

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really close for a little while and uh i mean i still think we are but we just both got busy and

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stuff but he uh he's doing some great things down in africa i i almost we've had a couple of close

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encounters where we were gonna possibly meet each other in person but it still hadn't happened but

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that man is extremely talented he's extremely passionate and i just i can't wait to see him

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headlining these massive festivals and and shows and stuff he's he's he's the man i love quags

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yeah he is great the academy that he's doing and oh yeah he did the dance uh the dance festival

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event i mean so creative so such a great influence

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so back back to the show qa6

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we've got it started started what like three years ago yeah four years ago i'll address the elephant

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in the room it hasn't published yeah what do you got in the hopper what do you got in the hopper

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for us the people are waiting there's there's been a lot of uh i i i'm notorious also for

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hyping something up and then not delivering uh but not out not in my control like i i've had a lot of

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bumps in the road with a lot of the stuff that i have been uh trying to do and i know that i was

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doing a big promotion for season two which was going to be the same same idea but it was going

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to be based on the eric andre show rather than between two ferns um and i still do have some of

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those uh i i mean i i need to connect with my uh producer which i also hadn't talked to him in a

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while either um we've both been going our own ways too like that's one thing like when you're doing

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this stuff and it not um like it a passion project and it not your livelihood it kind of is it really difficult um and but i still have those i one i planning on releasing all of the unreleased between two asics that i filmed several years ago uh and all the

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ones that i the between or the eric andre shows aka the tatum turnip show in vegas this last year

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um i still plan on doing all that but i had some production issues i i signed with the company

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and they just did not deliver.

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And it kind of put me just in a really bad spot

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to where I just couldn't do it.

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But it's not completely over.

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And I do have some plans on bringing it back,

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hopefully relatively soon.

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But I've learned in the past that

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Real G's move in silence.

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So I'm kind of just building quietly.

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And Rulg's moving silence like lasagna.

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That doesn't make sense unless you add the last part.

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Sorry.

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But I am building and I hope to come back very soon with it.

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And if it works out how I want it to, the return episode very well could break the internet as we know it.

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And when I say that, I mean just the people who are chronically online in the Bitcoin sphere.

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But it will shake Bitcoiners to their core if they've been following along.

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So super excited for it when it does happen.

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But I'm just kind of taking it easy and not trying to force it.

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Because I want it, not if, when it comes back, I want it to be what I want it to be.

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and I don't want it to feel rushed.

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And that's the biggest thing that I need to focus on.

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So I'm not putting any hard deadlines or anything.

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I gave a lot of deadlines in the past that I just did not deliver on.

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Because, I mean, when you think about it,

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and I might get flamed for this,

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but I kind of am running a production company,

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But by that, I mean, I don't know how to and I'm not is the is what I'm saying.

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Like it it's not as it's not something I can just like film, edit, post like it's it's got a whole business around it that I don't know how to run.

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And so I'm learning about it.

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I'm talking to some people and have some really heavy hitters in my corner that want to help me out.

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So I'm hopefully going to at least have some funding.

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That's the one of the main things that makes this so difficult is the funding, because like I said, the it can't be virtual.

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That's just not how the comedy I want to do works.

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It's got to be in person.

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It's got to that's how the jokes land.

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And so the funding is the main issue.

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And I think that I might be close to solving that permanently.

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and from there

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hopefully it will snowball

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but that's

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pretty ambiguous and

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intentionally so

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Do you run

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any of the

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value for value rails on

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when you broadcast?

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I know that they're on YouTube

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that's where I originally

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found them because that's

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you know that was before all of these

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Noster streams were up

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um have you had any success raising any support that way honestly no but it's because i have not

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leaned into it like i i need to um like you said i post them all on youtube that was before

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a lot of um the nostreverse was was uh expanding to where i could post those on a

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nostril equivalent uh youtube platform or something like that um and by the time like

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i haven't posted in in a very long time but uh by the time it started getting easier to do that

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i just didn't have anything to post um so it was kind of just like i was a little earlier

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than i needed to be as far as the nostril nostril side of things go um yeah but that that's definitely

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I mean, that's on my radar. I've been Nostra since December 2022. And I mean, I've taken a few breaks here and there. But I mean, I love the mission of what Nostra wants to do and taking that middleman out and giving that value for value is what what this is supposed to be.

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I started it because like the reason that I went through with it once I had those ideas of like making a comedy Bitcoin show was that we were in the depths of a bear market.

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And I didn't like, yeah, I would have loved to make some money off of it.

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But my primary goal was I wanted to meet people that I looked up to.

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And when I did that, I wanted to make people smile because people were not smiling.

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It was just knives on Twitter and everything.

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It was just everyone's ripping each other apart and we needed something to, you know, lighten the mood a little bit.

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And so that's what I tried to set out and do.

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So, I mean, if that's the value that I'm giving, I don't really care if I don't receive any monetary value from it.

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It would definitely help.

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But, you know, I just want to make people smile.

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um that's i think that's my life mission is to make people remember that you know things aren't

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so serious uh and you lighten up every now and then so uh that that that's definitely on the

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radar when it comes back though um and i've been doing some streaming lately on zap zap.stream

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uh kind of trying to reintegrate with the whole nostraverse since it i i kind of took a step back

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after uh some some hell threads and some it basically made my user experience hell um but

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i've been trying to get back on it and it's so fun the development is is crazy i've met some of

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my best friends on nostr um and they still are my best friends like uh it's it's such a cool

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technology, an idea, and having a whole ecosystem around it where you can share content, where you

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can talk to people, that means everything. So I want to use it to make people smile.

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I love it. Yeah, I co-sign all of that that you said. The technology is awesome, and then

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And then by nature just attracts a certain type of person that you tend to have more in common with and connect with.

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And you see the world, at least in certain aspects, similar.

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And it just breeds all of these really interesting conversations and really interesting relationships.

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And we hop on planes, travel all over the world just to go hang out for two nights together.

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So going to Costa Rica was the first time that I've been abroad, aside from like a cruise to the Bahamas with my family for like a couple hours or something like that.

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I don't even consider that.

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But I was later on, I was talking to my mom and I was saying I was talking about going to Costa Rica.

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And I said something about Walker, Walker America.

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and I said Walker America and she's like hold on is that his real name I said of course not

442
00:35:55,312 --> 00:36:01,692
and she looks at me just weird and says she's like do you know his real name I said no and she

443
00:36:01,692 --> 00:36:07,012
looks at me even weirder and says so you're traveling across the world to hang out with

444
00:36:07,012 --> 00:36:15,672
these people that you don't even know their name and I said yeah absolutely and that's just sounds

445
00:36:15,672 --> 00:36:23,912
about right what we're doing it's been going great that's awesome well let's hop into your

446
00:36:23,912 --> 00:36:30,272
next song here we've got inhale exhale from just loud what do you want to tell the people about

447
00:36:30,272 --> 00:36:38,692
this one yeah this is a this is just a really good vibe song um i i found just loud on wave lake

448
00:36:38,692 --> 00:36:44,012
uh and i looked at him on spotify and he's actually pretty big on spotify i i had not

449
00:36:44,012 --> 00:36:46,652
I heard of him prior to me just kind of stumbling upon him,

450
00:36:46,652 --> 00:36:53,312
which is also just another cool feature of Noster and the network effect that it has

451
00:36:53,312 --> 00:37:01,592
and how algorithms are not necessarily forcing what they want down our throats.

452
00:37:02,552 --> 00:37:07,192
So I think it's really cool that I found him on the platform that he's less popular on.

453
00:37:07,752 --> 00:37:10,372
But it's just a really good, vibey song.

454
00:37:10,572 --> 00:37:13,232
So, yeah, I just I enjoyed it.

455
00:37:14,012 --> 00:37:18,132
Yeah, let's take a listen. This is Inhale, Exhale by Just Loud.

456
00:37:44,012 --> 00:38:13,992
I'm so excited.

457
00:38:14,012 --> 00:38:43,992
Thank you.

458
00:38:44,012 --> 00:38:45,672
It's more than a thrill

459
00:38:45,672 --> 00:38:48,392
It's a different kind

460
00:39:14,012 --> 00:39:43,992
I'll see you next time.

461
00:39:44,012 --> 00:40:13,992
Thank you.

462
00:40:14,012 --> 00:40:43,992
Outro Music

463
00:40:44,012 --> 00:40:49,232
So to say, mind to mind, mind to mind

464
00:40:49,232 --> 00:40:54,512
Mind to bodies, eye to eyes

465
00:40:54,512 --> 00:41:01,232
So to say, mind to mind

466
00:41:01,232 --> 00:41:30,312
All right.

467
00:41:30,312 --> 00:41:46,308
yeah that was i i love that song like i just was grooving back here like it the his vocal range in that song alone is just really fun Like he starts really deep and can get all the way up high

468
00:41:46,308 --> 00:41:49,468
It really gives me some Alabama Shakes vibes.

469
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:51,528
It's just grungy, rocky.

470
00:41:51,948 --> 00:41:55,648
Like, I really, like, I'm glad I stumbled upon him,

471
00:41:55,688 --> 00:41:58,668
because I'm going to definitely start listening on the reg.

472
00:41:59,648 --> 00:42:00,448
That's awesome.

473
00:42:00,528 --> 00:42:02,308
Do you know the backstory behind him?

474
00:42:02,948 --> 00:42:04,068
No, I don't.

475
00:42:04,068 --> 00:42:13,388
interesting yeah so um really cool story he actually um he played at our venue at first

476
00:42:13,388 --> 00:42:22,028
avenue with ainsley in 2023 it was our first value for value like big blowout live concert

477
00:42:22,028 --> 00:42:27,728
and they ended up it was wild they ended up getting like 19 million sats over two days

478
00:42:27,728 --> 00:42:39,608
it was nuts yeah but uh just loud um he was a a signed artist on a major label um my by total

479
00:42:39,608 --> 00:42:48,768
happenstance um in my day job one of my lawyers represent like went to a show at lalapalooza

480
00:42:48,768 --> 00:42:54,448
and just loud was performing on one of the side stages and he just went on a rant about

481
00:42:54,448 --> 00:42:57,208
he couldn't get out of this bad record deal

482
00:42:57,208 --> 00:42:58,848
and you know

483
00:42:58,848 --> 00:43:01,448
it was a big

484
00:43:01,448 --> 00:43:02,208
damn the man

485
00:43:02,208 --> 00:43:04,688
he basically rage quit on stage

486
00:43:04,688 --> 00:43:05,368
that's awesome

487
00:43:05,368 --> 00:43:08,748
and my buddy

488
00:43:08,748 --> 00:43:11,308
gave him a business

489
00:43:11,308 --> 00:43:12,968
card and never thought he'd hear from him

490
00:43:12,968 --> 00:43:14,608
and then a couple months later

491
00:43:14,608 --> 00:43:17,288
JL reached out

492
00:43:17,288 --> 00:43:19,128
to him and they helped him get out of a

493
00:43:19,128 --> 00:43:21,268
bad record deal and so he went

494
00:43:21,268 --> 00:43:22,568
fully independent

495
00:43:22,568 --> 00:43:23,448
and

496
00:43:23,448 --> 00:43:28,228
And that's when Adam, the lawyer's name, told me about him.

497
00:43:28,248 --> 00:43:33,788
And I said, well, he sounds like a perfect candidate for Noster and Value for Value.

498
00:43:33,928 --> 00:43:34,388
Let's go.

499
00:43:35,128 --> 00:43:38,188
And so we started meeting with him and told him about what was going on.

500
00:43:38,228 --> 00:43:39,908
And he agreed to give it a whirl.

501
00:43:39,908 --> 00:43:47,128
So he's really into the idea of the space.

502
00:43:47,248 --> 00:43:49,188
He's not a power user by any means.

503
00:43:49,428 --> 00:43:52,408
He's, you know, when we do something.

504
00:43:52,408 --> 00:43:58,208
that really especially yeah yeah from a big record deal and going full independent with value for

505
00:43:58,208 --> 00:44:04,568
value like it i definitely don't expect someone to just completely port over everything and

506
00:44:04,568 --> 00:44:11,908
pour all their resources into this maybe it works maybe it doesn't thing but it's very cool that he

507
00:44:11,908 --> 00:44:21,148
gave it a try um and i hope that it gives some more artists uh some some opportunity and some

508
00:44:21,148 --> 00:44:26,848
ideas. I mean, this is what, at WhatFest in Wyoming, what we were kind of promoting was,

509
00:44:27,408 --> 00:44:32,208
like, I, whenever I was walking around giving people the primal cards, I was telling them that,

510
00:44:32,208 --> 00:44:39,388
hey, we're taking the middleman from between artists and their audience. You know, they,

511
00:44:39,628 --> 00:44:48,408
they deserve what you want to give them, not, you know, what their label wants to decide what they

512
00:44:48,408 --> 00:44:58,408
deserve like it i that's one thing that that i think is just failed in this capitalistic society

513
00:44:58,408 --> 00:45:08,768
that we have is is just agency uh whether it be you know music or um or even media other forms of

514
00:45:08,768 --> 00:45:15,388
media like acting and stuff like that i know that i i know that media or sorry music is a little more

515
00:45:15,388 --> 00:45:24,768
problematic. Just look at, you know, Britney Spears and Taylor Swift. Like, each story is

516
00:45:24,768 --> 00:45:33,328
different, but kind of has that same center point of, you know, I want to make music for whatever

517
00:45:33,328 --> 00:45:41,268
reason, and someone else wants to help me make music for money. And it just kind of, it takes a

518
00:45:41,268 --> 00:45:41,828
tolling people.

519
00:45:45,408 --> 00:45:47,148
There's a rookie on the

520
00:45:47,148 --> 00:45:49,428
switchboard

521
00:45:49,428 --> 00:45:50,668
back here laughing at you.

522
00:45:50,668 --> 00:45:51,248
That's funny.

523
00:45:53,928 --> 00:45:54,988
Oh, that's great.

524
00:45:59,128 --> 00:46:00,608
But yeah, WhatFest.

525
00:46:00,688 --> 00:46:02,648
I'm glad you brought that up. I think that was the last

526
00:46:02,648 --> 00:46:04,128
time we hung out in person. Yeah.

527
00:46:04,268 --> 00:46:06,128
That was a blast, man.

528
00:46:06,308 --> 00:46:07,948
And what a good... So fun.

529
00:46:09,288 --> 00:46:10,448
Kind of came out of nowhere.

530
00:46:10,448 --> 00:46:16,008
Yeah, it was completely spur of the moment for me, and I do not regret a single bit of it.

531
00:46:16,088 --> 00:46:16,588
It was awesome.

532
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:30,648
Yeah, and haven't heard any of the details about 26, but I know it's in late July in Wyoming again, and I say we do it.

533
00:46:30,828 --> 00:46:31,488
It was fun.

534
00:46:31,488 --> 00:46:42,428
And those guys, the best part about it was when we're talking about growing value for value, growing the space, these people were all into it.

535
00:46:42,688 --> 00:46:52,328
Like they, you know, the big difference when I see, you know, like Just Loud, for example, he was he was all into it as long as I was pushing the buttons.

536
00:46:52,328 --> 00:47:00,728
Right. You know, getting getting somebody totally up and running and then just doing it on their own.

537
00:47:00,728 --> 00:47:07,348
is really the goal and so as soon as like the coach or the guide stops helping them it it

538
00:47:07,348 --> 00:47:14,788
loses traction but those people out at what fest um they were talking about it on stage like the

539
00:47:14,788 --> 00:47:21,788
organizers of the conference were like hey go check out the tent there go go learn about this

540
00:47:21,788 --> 00:47:28,888
and then they're putting it on uh wyoming public radio on the actual broadcast and you know that

541
00:47:28,888 --> 00:47:33,348
was really promising so i think that's that's something we gotta put some more energy into also

542
00:47:33,348 --> 00:47:38,048
for the listeners that aren't familiar what fest is uh you might be able to do a better job

543
00:47:38,048 --> 00:47:44,388
explaining it but it was it's a small little music festival in wyoming that was kind of just

544
00:47:44,388 --> 00:47:52,168
it embraces independent artistry is that right yeah it was super fun like people camp out

545
00:47:52,168 --> 00:47:58,148
there was rv camping that that was actually the first time that i had i'd been wanting to do

546
00:47:58,148 --> 00:48:03,308
some camping and stuff since I had moved out to Colorado, um, but didn't really have too much of

547
00:48:03,308 --> 00:48:11,248
an opportunity, and then I was, I can't remember how I got roped into, uh, WhatFest, but I was like,

548
00:48:11,328 --> 00:48:16,368
wait a second, I can do a little camping, have a little fun, you know, promote some freedom money,

549
00:48:16,588 --> 00:48:24,008
promote some good, uh, good value for value, and, uh, camped out with, uh, you know, on my car,

550
00:48:24,008 --> 00:48:30,048
from a car to a tree and had a couple days of just some really good music,

551
00:48:30,168 --> 00:48:34,868
really fun vibes, sat around a fire and just had jam sessions, man.

552
00:48:35,008 --> 00:48:36,488
It was so great.

553
00:48:37,288 --> 00:48:39,908
Yeah, I think we should get more Nostrages out there this year.

554
00:48:40,148 --> 00:48:40,368
For sure.

555
00:48:40,488 --> 00:48:44,268
And it's the 21st anniversary of WhatFest, so why not?

556
00:48:44,928 --> 00:48:47,148
And then we ran into, what is his name?

557
00:48:47,628 --> 00:48:48,188
Jay?

558
00:48:49,628 --> 00:48:50,508
John Nevin?

559
00:48:50,508 --> 00:48:51,788
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

560
00:48:51,988 --> 00:48:53,028
Just randomly.

561
00:48:53,028 --> 00:48:58,568
He was like hanging around us and I was glad that he was interested in what we were doing.

562
00:48:58,708 --> 00:49:01,888
And then I was like, we figured out that he's been on Nostra for a while.

563
00:49:02,008 --> 00:49:03,468
I was like, yo, this is sick.

564
00:49:04,128 --> 00:49:07,588
Yeah, he's already chatting with us online.

565
00:49:07,908 --> 00:49:09,408
It definitely felt kind of like...

566
00:49:09,408 --> 00:49:10,508
But didn't know who he was in the real world.

567
00:49:10,728 --> 00:49:15,028
It kind of felt like Nostra Rica, like a side event kind of.

568
00:49:15,028 --> 00:49:25,068
Like in a way, it was just a very small little community of people just hanging out, sharing art and fun.

569
00:49:25,328 --> 00:49:29,368
And it was it was super like that.

570
00:49:29,448 --> 00:49:39,528
That's just like a great if I could have the crowd that I'm cool with on Noster go out to Wyoming for a couple of days and camp out there.

571
00:49:39,628 --> 00:49:43,328
That would make my entire year like it's great.

572
00:49:43,328 --> 00:49:46,228
oh and not to underplay the event

573
00:49:46,228 --> 00:49:48,168
either they had a couple

574
00:49:48,168 --> 00:49:49,248
thousand people there

575
00:49:49,248 --> 00:49:51,628
it was a big proper

576
00:49:51,628 --> 00:49:53,928
it was a music festival

577
00:49:53,928 --> 00:49:56,308
but it was also like their communities

578
00:49:56,308 --> 00:49:58,088
like you know

579
00:49:58,088 --> 00:50:00,208
weekend getaway where everybody stays

580
00:50:00,208 --> 00:50:01,408
and camps on site

581
00:50:01,408 --> 00:50:02,928
yeah it wasn't any

582
00:50:02,928 --> 00:50:05,788
just mom and pop like

583
00:50:05,788 --> 00:50:07,728
let's put a stage here

584
00:50:07,728 --> 00:50:09,888
it was a full production

585
00:50:09,888 --> 00:50:11,568
and it was

586
00:50:11,568 --> 00:50:12,788
really great

587
00:50:13,328 --> 00:50:32,908
Yeah. I love it. Well, let's get into your next song here. We've got Ainsley Costello, the OG, the OG one million sat wonder on Wavelake with Cherry on top. How did you, I mean, I think everybody, everybody caught this one by storm.

588
00:50:32,908 --> 00:50:37,008
Our value for value queen, as I like to call her.

589
00:50:39,228 --> 00:50:44,648
We've spoken a few times, and I just have so much respect for her.

590
00:50:45,168 --> 00:50:46,628
She's extremely talented.

591
00:50:47,528 --> 00:50:50,868
She's extremely brave and bold doing this.

592
00:50:50,868 --> 00:51:06,648
And she's also a great example of for other artists that, you know, maybe maybe they don't know what other options there are than the traditional route.

593
00:51:07,648 --> 00:51:19,088
And she is showing that, like, I mean, she I do not like making comparisons, but like she she's like she's like our own little chapel room.

594
00:51:19,088 --> 00:51:21,888
She is just, she's got a crazy voice.

595
00:51:21,988 --> 00:51:23,128
She's crazy talented.

596
00:51:23,848 --> 00:51:29,908
And this is one of those songs that I will never admit that I scream in my car, but I do.

597
00:51:31,228 --> 00:51:33,848
And yeah, she's great.

598
00:51:34,088 --> 00:51:35,608
She's our value for value queen.

599
00:51:36,148 --> 00:51:37,088
I love it.

600
00:51:37,108 --> 00:51:38,088
And I love seeing her.

601
00:51:38,228 --> 00:51:39,828
She's been out on the road quite a bit.

602
00:51:39,828 --> 00:51:44,428
I noticed she's been at Noster Valley in Pennsylvania.

603
00:51:45,048 --> 00:51:46,828
She was over in the UK for BitFest.

604
00:51:46,828 --> 00:51:53,488
fest um she's going to dc uh i think she just announced that she was going to dc for oh yeah

605
00:51:53,488 --> 00:51:59,128
in march uh nostril run or something i can't remember what it was yeah and she did a thing

606
00:51:59,128 --> 00:52:06,828
at the new pub key out there she was down in florida for um what was that the natalie brunell

607
00:52:06,828 --> 00:52:14,448
thing she's she's a beast it's awesome yeah she's she's slept on like i i need her to hit

608
00:52:14,448 --> 00:52:21,068
even more exit velocity because people are missing out uh if they don't know Ainsley Costello

609
00:52:21,068 --> 00:52:25,188
absolutely well let's get let's get into this song

610
00:52:25,188 --> 00:52:45,348
I'm not as dense as you think I am

611
00:52:45,348 --> 00:52:48,688
I know that you didn't know

612
00:52:48,688 --> 00:52:51,268
That I knew about your little plan

613
00:52:51,268 --> 00:52:54,808
But you had to go and tell everyone

614
00:52:54,808 --> 00:52:58,048
about my attention that you hadn't won.

615
00:52:58,228 --> 00:53:01,488
But I bet you're wondering why cute little knife

616
00:53:01,488 --> 00:53:04,628
doesn't hurt my back like you thought it would.

617
00:53:05,008 --> 00:53:07,888
Well, thankfully, you did the hard fight for me,

618
00:53:07,888 --> 00:53:10,228
and I just think it's good.

619
00:53:10,908 --> 00:53:14,148
You put the cheerios off for the mess you made,

620
00:53:14,228 --> 00:53:16,668
but I'll leave it out for wrong.

621
00:53:17,428 --> 00:53:22,868
Won't say a lot, won't give you the reaction that you want.

622
00:53:22,868 --> 00:53:24,788
Do you tear it on your top?

623
00:53:25,328 --> 00:53:28,268
Oh, oh, oh, oh

624
00:53:28,268 --> 00:53:30,248
You tear it on your top

625
00:53:30,248 --> 00:53:33,208
Cause I knew that if I did

626
00:53:33,208 --> 00:53:36,568
Your eyes would sneak away to the corner of the room

627
00:53:36,568 --> 00:53:42,608
Cause I knew that you weren't used to having it all given back to you

628
00:53:42,608 --> 00:53:48,388
And though it might be something to see your face red and cry like a little boy

629
00:53:48,388 --> 00:53:52,528
You might deserve it but it don't serve a purpose

630
00:53:52,528 --> 00:53:55,848
And though I'm five-two, I'm still the bigger person

631
00:53:55,848 --> 00:53:58,608
You tear yourself up for the mess you made

632
00:53:58,608 --> 00:54:01,068
But I'll leave it out to rock

633
00:54:01,068 --> 00:54:05,888
We'll see a lot won't give you the reaction

634
00:54:05,888 --> 00:54:09,528
That you want to tear your arms up

635
00:54:09,528 --> 00:54:12,788
Up, up

636
00:54:12,788 --> 00:54:15,708
You tear your arms up

637
00:54:15,708 --> 00:54:19,168
Up, up

638
00:54:19,168 --> 00:54:26,628
Well, honey, I hope you know that I wish you well

639
00:54:26,628 --> 00:54:32,968
Well, maybe I don't, but you know that I never tell

640
00:54:32,968 --> 00:54:37,348
Cause either way you can't say you didn't handle it with grace

641
00:54:37,348 --> 00:54:40,188
Cause at the end of the day

642
00:54:40,188 --> 00:54:44,728
I'm not the one who put the cherry on top of the mess you made

643
00:54:44,728 --> 00:54:47,308
But I'll leave it out to rot

644
00:54:47,308 --> 00:54:53,648
Won't say a lie, won't give you the reaction that you want

645
00:54:53,648 --> 00:54:57,408
You put your cherry on top for the mess you made

646
00:54:57,408 --> 00:54:59,988
But I'll leave it out for right

647
00:54:59,988 --> 00:55:06,268
Won't say a lie, won't give you the reaction that you want

648
00:55:06,268 --> 00:55:08,148
And your cherry on top

649
00:55:08,148 --> 00:55:13,968
Your cherry on top

650
00:55:17,308 --> 00:55:19,568
It's very awesome

651
00:55:33,264 --> 00:55:35,544
like making comparisons and then compared Chapel Rhone,

652
00:55:35,664 --> 00:55:37,524
but she's better than Chapel Rhone.

653
00:55:37,624 --> 00:55:38,604
I mean, I'll say it.

654
00:55:38,624 --> 00:55:40,844
Like, I don't know what it was listening to that,

655
00:55:40,964 --> 00:55:46,664
but like there's more passion in Ainsley's voice than Chapel Rhone.

656
00:55:46,664 --> 00:55:53,124
Like she, you could tell that this girl, like, oh my God, I love her.

657
00:55:53,204 --> 00:55:56,364
Like she, she just knows she's got it.

658
00:55:56,584 --> 00:55:57,964
She's got that secret sauce.

659
00:55:57,964 --> 00:56:04,204
and hopefully one day I am on the rail of her headlining a music festival or something.

660
00:56:04,484 --> 00:56:05,904
That girl can sing.

661
00:56:06,844 --> 00:56:13,624
She is fantastic, and the space is extremely lucky to have her here running around the world

662
00:56:13,624 --> 00:56:15,964
and spreading the good word and the great music.

663
00:56:16,444 --> 00:56:22,584
I just got a message from Ainsley's number one superfan, Heather Larson, here,

664
00:56:22,584 --> 00:56:25,684
showing us the next appearance opportunity.

665
00:56:26,644 --> 00:56:30,904
March 15th, 2026, Hanes Point, Washington, D.C.

666
00:56:31,884 --> 00:56:36,724
Ainsley will be at the Pub Key event and the Runster sponsored event.

667
00:56:36,744 --> 00:56:37,844
That's what it is, Runster. Okay.

668
00:56:38,424 --> 00:56:40,244
Yeah, so make sure you get out there.

669
00:56:40,324 --> 00:56:46,244
It looks like we've got a half day of events

670
00:56:46,244 --> 00:56:49,304
followed by a music showcase in the afternoon.

671
00:56:50,304 --> 00:56:51,964
So that's going to be awesome.

672
00:56:52,584 --> 00:56:53,984
Sweet. Yeah, I...

673
00:56:53,984 --> 00:57:00,504
And speaking of music showcases, let's talk about the next Tatum Turnip music showcase.

674
00:57:00,844 --> 00:57:04,684
You've got something cooking here in, I mean, it's under two months almost.

675
00:57:05,264 --> 00:57:07,184
Oh, jeez. That is approaching faster than...

676
00:57:07,184 --> 00:57:09,004
Las Vegas, Las Vegas Part Deux.

677
00:57:09,164 --> 00:57:20,984
Dude, I'm super excited. I did my debut DJ set last year, and all things considered, I think it went really well.

678
00:57:20,984 --> 00:57:28,384
uh it was my first time like club DJing I had done you know smaller stuff at the frat house and

679
00:57:28,384 --> 00:57:36,964
and things like that but uh never in Vegas I mean great I do like saying it like I headlined a Vegas

680
00:57:36,964 --> 00:57:44,204
show um because it sounds really cool um but I I'd never done like a a club party where I like go

681
00:57:44,204 --> 00:57:48,384
and they have an actual bigger setup or anything like that.

682
00:57:49,824 --> 00:57:56,144
And I really enjoy doing it, and I'm cooking up a new set,

683
00:57:56,444 --> 00:57:57,984
and I'm super excited for it.

684
00:57:59,444 --> 00:58:06,944
All I can say is that, like, this, you don't want to,

685
00:58:07,524 --> 00:58:11,984
if you go to Vegas for anything around the Bitcoin conference,

686
00:58:11,984 --> 00:58:15,364
it needs to be for my set because I'm going to melt your face off.

687
00:58:16,324 --> 00:58:21,064
It's going to be super high energy, super, super fun, super bouncy.

688
00:58:21,284 --> 00:58:25,244
Just, I mean, I want to bring the people together.

689
00:58:25,384 --> 00:58:28,784
I told you that, you know, my main goal in life is to make people smile.

690
00:58:29,004 --> 00:58:34,324
And whether that's through comedy or, you know, just mixing tracks and reading that energy

691
00:58:34,324 --> 00:58:39,344
and delivering that energy to a crowd, I love doing it.

692
00:58:39,344 --> 00:58:41,464
So I'm super excited about that.

693
00:58:41,464 --> 00:58:44,024
It's sad that Val won't be there with me.

694
00:58:44,524 --> 00:58:47,804
Shout out to Val, who also got me,

695
00:58:48,324 --> 00:58:54,004
really got me out of my little smaller ideas of DJing

696
00:58:54,004 --> 00:58:57,744
and gave me the confidence to kind of do it more publicly.

697
00:58:58,844 --> 00:59:02,344
She's a goat, and I love her, miss her so much.

698
00:59:02,544 --> 00:59:03,704
I hadn't seen her in a while.

699
00:59:04,804 --> 00:59:07,584
But yeah, it's going to be real fun.

700
00:59:07,584 --> 00:59:15,204
uh i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna melt some faces hopefully absolutely can't wait and yeah val val

701
00:59:15,204 --> 00:59:21,484
was on the sunday brunch last week so check that out if you you hadn't gotten to it yet um it's

702
00:59:21,484 --> 00:59:25,784
really fun to hear what she's working on and again wish wish we could have her in vegas again this

703
00:59:25,784 --> 00:59:31,084
year but you know we got to make room for the tatum you know i guess i'll just have to do a

704
00:59:31,084 --> 00:59:37,824
longer set you know and and have it even higher energy to make up for it but um she'll be there

705
00:59:37,824 --> 00:59:48,144
absolutely and that's uh tuesday april 28th that we all scream in the uh same same location as last

706
00:59:48,144 --> 00:59:54,364
year and we're going to blow it out of the water this year so we'll have live performers um doing

707
00:59:54,364 --> 01:00:00,644
some value for value music sets on the back patio like last year during the early hours and then as

708
01:00:00,644 --> 01:00:06,384
the night transitions more into the later evening tatum takes over the party and burns it all down

709
01:00:06,384 --> 01:00:14,804
figuratively i don't i don't know if there's any pyrotechnics or not but uh you know we'll see

710
01:00:14,804 --> 01:00:24,364
it is vegas you are headlining in vegas after all exactly i remember um one thing in my childhood

711
01:00:24,364 --> 01:00:29,044
that I often think back to playing Guitar Hero 3

712
01:00:29,044 --> 01:00:31,464
that whenever you're loading in a song,

713
01:00:31,604 --> 01:00:34,644
there's like little comedic little snippets or whatever.

714
01:00:34,804 --> 01:00:38,264
And one of them always, one of them said something like

715
01:00:38,264 --> 01:00:42,284
never trust homemade pyrotechnics or something like that.

716
01:00:42,504 --> 01:00:44,304
I just think back to that every now and then

717
01:00:44,304 --> 01:00:46,384
when I'm like watching a DJ set or something,

718
01:00:46,504 --> 01:00:48,364
like I can figure this out.

719
01:00:48,444 --> 01:00:50,144
But then I think back to that loading screen,

720
01:00:50,224 --> 01:00:52,944
I'm like, no, no, I need to leave that up to the professionals.

721
01:00:52,944 --> 01:00:53,324
Yeah.

722
01:00:54,364 --> 01:01:02,384
have some just absolute gas cannons but yeah i'm super excited are you doing anything else in

723
01:01:02,384 --> 01:01:08,284
vegas are you just attend are you going to any of the conference or i think i last year i didn't go

724
01:01:08,284 --> 01:01:13,124
to a single panel i don't think we were all running around doing nostor events i was i was

725
01:01:13,124 --> 01:01:22,284
at the conference but i also did not go to a single speaker and quite frankly had the best

726
01:01:22,284 --> 01:01:30,144
time in my life and i i urge everyone like look you're going to be able to see those speeches

727
01:01:30,144 --> 01:01:35,504
again if you're going to if you're going to any conference related to bitcoin nostre or anything

728
01:01:35,504 --> 01:01:39,064
not necessarily nostre actually that's completely different story and i'll go into that but

729
01:01:39,064 --> 01:01:46,304
if you're going to like a bitcoin conference um you're going to see those speakers again and again

730
01:01:46,304 --> 01:01:52,084
they're probably going to be regurgitating the same exact thing everyone says they have a huge

731
01:01:52,084 --> 01:01:58,244
announcement and it is never as big as it seems. And if it's just the fact of seeing

732
01:01:58,244 --> 01:02:06,584
them in the meet space, you can still probably do that outside of the panels. The best way to

733
01:02:06,584 --> 01:02:13,664
maximize your experience at a Bitcoin conference is to just mingle with as many people as you can

734
01:02:13,664 --> 01:02:19,264
outside of the speaker halls. Now, I mean, don't get me wrong. There are some of the...

735
01:02:19,264 --> 01:02:22,184
that really kind of goes for like headliners.

736
01:02:22,264 --> 01:02:23,624
I'm talking to Michael Saylor,

737
01:02:23,764 --> 01:02:24,404
Jack Dorsey.

738
01:02:24,604 --> 01:02:25,244
Don't get me wrong.

739
01:02:25,404 --> 01:02:25,564
I,

740
01:02:25,564 --> 01:02:25,904
I,

741
01:02:26,064 --> 01:02:26,664
I love,

742
01:02:26,824 --> 01:02:27,784
love them death.

743
01:02:28,264 --> 01:02:28,664
Um,

744
01:02:28,924 --> 01:02:29,584
especially Jack.

745
01:02:29,644 --> 01:02:34,404
Jack is so cool and has been very helpful to me as well.

746
01:02:34,724 --> 01:02:35,204
Um,

747
01:02:35,284 --> 01:02:36,584
but some,

748
01:02:36,704 --> 01:02:38,804
sometimes like on the smaller stages,

749
01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:40,524
the ones that don't get publicity,

750
01:02:40,524 --> 01:02:43,304
those are the ones that you also might want to go to.

751
01:02:43,464 --> 01:02:44,244
I remember,

752
01:02:44,544 --> 01:02:45,064
uh,

753
01:02:45,344 --> 01:02:45,684
shoot,

754
01:02:45,744 --> 01:02:46,144
was it,

755
01:02:46,144 --> 01:02:47,444
I can't remember when it was,

756
01:02:47,544 --> 01:02:47,984
but it was,

757
01:02:47,984 --> 01:02:50,804
I think it was the open source stage.

758
01:02:51,304 --> 01:02:54,184
I can't remember if it was Miami or it had to be Vegas.

759
01:02:54,264 --> 01:02:54,904
I want to say,

760
01:02:54,904 --> 01:02:55,844
um,

761
01:02:56,324 --> 01:02:58,384
it was the first Noster panel really.

762
01:02:58,524 --> 01:02:59,244
And I think it was,

763
01:02:59,244 --> 01:02:59,704
uh,

764
01:02:59,724 --> 01:03:00,144
will,

765
01:03:00,824 --> 01:03:01,224
uh,

766
01:03:01,244 --> 01:03:02,164
rockstar.

767
01:03:02,504 --> 01:03:04,184
I can't remember who else it was,

768
01:03:04,304 --> 01:03:07,004
but I remember that it was standing room only.

769
01:03:07,364 --> 01:03:09,004
And I mean,

770
01:03:09,004 --> 01:03:10,764
that was really cool to see.

771
01:03:10,904 --> 01:03:12,164
Not because like,

772
01:03:12,624 --> 01:03:15,084
like I knew what they were talking about,

773
01:03:15,084 --> 01:03:17,964
but there were several people in there that had no idea.

774
01:03:17,984 --> 01:03:24,244
what Nostra even was. They came to the conference for other reasons. Maybe they were even waiting on

775
01:03:24,244 --> 01:03:29,424
something else in that room and just wanted to secure their seat, but had to sit through that.

776
01:03:30,184 --> 01:03:35,924
Those are great. The ones that are really close-knit, those are awesome. The ones with the

777
01:03:35,924 --> 01:03:42,304
cameras and the spotlights and the LED screens, I'm just going to be completely honest, you don't

778
01:03:42,304 --> 01:03:51,204
have to go to those. The best value you can get out of those conferences is going to side events,

779
01:03:51,804 --> 01:03:59,624
mingling in the expo hall, visiting different booths, and just exploring what else there is

780
01:03:59,624 --> 01:04:04,944
other than what you primarily thought you wanted to go see. And the thing about NOSR conferences

781
01:04:04,944 --> 01:04:12,504
that I was alluding to was those, granted, the only one that I've been to, been able to go to

782
01:04:12,504 --> 01:04:21,164
is Nostarica, but I've followed closely on all the ones following that. Those aren't conferences.

783
01:04:21,164 --> 01:04:29,424
Those aren't, those are, I mean, we called Nostarica the unconference and it was so close

784
01:04:29,424 --> 01:04:37,864
and knit there there weren't several hundred people walking around outside buying merch and

785
01:04:37,864 --> 01:04:44,884
stuff like that while there was uh jack was speaking on a keynote or something in this room

786
01:04:44,884 --> 01:04:52,164
or whatever everyone was really kind of doing the same thing on their own granted but like if there

787
01:04:52,164 --> 01:04:59,044
was a talk most everyone was there maybe they were sitting all the way up front taking notes or they

788
01:04:59,044 --> 01:05:06,404
were coding on the spot shout out uh pablo um then they also could have just been hanging out

789
01:05:06,404 --> 01:05:12,644
in the back like me and walker and carla and suzy and and then the most important part of it was

790
01:05:12,644 --> 01:05:22,504
that they were almost every single one of them was hands-on crowd participation like i was at a

791
01:05:22,504 --> 01:05:28,404
i was in a building where i could directly talk to jack dorsey and ask him a question in front of

792
01:05:28,404 --> 01:05:32,444
several tens, maybe a hundred. I can't remember how many people were there.

793
01:05:32,544 --> 01:05:38,144
Wasn't too many, but in front of all these people and he answered me and then do the same thing for

794
01:05:38,144 --> 01:05:43,344
someone else. And, and then in the back of the tent, when I was talking to him, he showed me a

795
01:05:43,344 --> 01:05:47,884
bit key before it even came out, which was one of the coolest things that has ever happened to me.

796
01:05:48,484 --> 01:05:52,684
That's awesome. But like that, that goes for, you can kind of translate that. Like

797
01:05:52,684 --> 01:05:59,304
If you go to these conferences, do not go for yourself and to soak in talks.

798
01:05:59,544 --> 01:06:10,604
You need to go to mingle, ask questions and learn and just really soak it all in because you can get so much more.

799
01:06:10,604 --> 01:06:22,904
In fact, I'll say it. I'm going to get in trouble for saying this, but you don't even have to buy a ticket to the conference to get a lot of value out of going to Vegas that week.

800
01:06:23,924 --> 01:06:26,984
So I'm not promoting the Bitcoin conference or anything like that.

801
01:06:27,024 --> 01:06:31,864
I'm just saying, like, definitely get out of your bubble.

802
01:06:32,624 --> 01:06:39,404
I know it's kind of hard to do sometimes, especially if you're not if you're not that type of person.

803
01:06:39,404 --> 01:06:43,184
But get out of your bubble and make those connections.

804
01:06:43,584 --> 01:06:48,584
And that's how you're going to succeed and grow in the space if that's something that you want to do.

805
01:06:48,864 --> 01:06:54,204
There are people that have gone before you doing whatever it may be.

806
01:06:54,744 --> 01:06:59,624
And the best way to navigate a minefield is following the footsteps of someone who already went through.

807
01:07:00,264 --> 01:07:01,644
So, yeah.

808
01:07:01,644 --> 01:07:03,964
Yeah, I co-signed that, too.

809
01:07:03,964 --> 01:07:07,304
I went to my first conferences.

810
01:07:07,504 --> 01:07:08,344
I just went solo.

811
01:07:08,344 --> 01:07:10,684
and I'm an introvert so I don't

812
01:07:10,684 --> 01:07:12,904
like just run around I'm a sober

813
01:07:12,904 --> 01:07:14,944
introvert even better right so I'm not

814
01:07:14,944 --> 01:07:16,864
like running around like

815
01:07:16,864 --> 01:07:18,844
buying drinks and you know

816
01:07:18,844 --> 01:07:20,944
meeting people but you

817
01:07:20,944 --> 01:07:23,004
just you just go there and

818
01:07:23,004 --> 01:07:24,924
you have

819
01:07:24,924 --> 01:07:26,764
no plan you know you just

820
01:07:26,764 --> 01:07:29,084
show up

821
01:07:29,084 --> 01:07:30,404
you know generally

822
01:07:30,404 --> 01:07:31,724
pick a couple

823
01:07:31,724 --> 01:07:34,824
places that you want to be and then just

824
01:07:34,824 --> 01:07:36,884
trust the process like you're going to run

825
01:07:36,884 --> 01:07:37,904
into people and like

826
01:07:38,344 --> 01:07:45,044
I just remember that even that first Noster karaoke night, I didn't know what anybody looked like in the real world.

827
01:07:45,904 --> 01:07:50,244
That's another barrier, though, that I think is really funny.

828
01:07:50,624 --> 01:07:55,084
I respect it 100%, but also it makes things a little difficult.

829
01:07:56,204 --> 01:07:58,464
I like saying this.

830
01:07:58,504 --> 01:08:02,704
Some of my best friends in the Bitcoin space, I don't know what they even look like.

831
01:08:02,704 --> 01:08:05,184
but I talk to them all the time

832
01:08:05,184 --> 01:08:07,104
and it's

833
01:08:07,104 --> 01:08:09,164
great that we have this community where

834
01:08:09,164 --> 01:08:11,204
we can respect that privacy and stuff

835
01:08:11,204 --> 01:08:11,944
like that but

836
01:08:11,944 --> 01:08:15,124
I mean there are ways to do like if

837
01:08:15,124 --> 01:08:17,304
you're on Noster just post

838
01:08:17,304 --> 01:08:19,084
hey is there any events

839
01:08:19,084 --> 01:08:32,462
that I should go to or something like some we have some of the most welcoming people here if you I I I going to put them on blast If you message Derek Ross and say Hey I don know what to

840
01:08:32,462 --> 01:08:38,762
expect in Vegas or something like that. Can you help me out? I guarantee you, he's going to give

841
01:08:38,762 --> 01:08:43,962
you the white glove treatment on how to like get involved with everything. And Derek, if you're

842
01:08:43,962 --> 01:08:48,582
listening, I'm sorry that I'm promoting you on that, but I just know who you are as a person.

843
01:08:48,582 --> 01:08:52,602
and you are one of the greatest marketers

844
01:08:52,602 --> 01:08:55,982
and one of the most easy people to talk to.

845
01:08:57,022 --> 01:08:59,762
And it's very rare what Derek has,

846
01:08:59,882 --> 01:09:04,802
and he's helped a ton of people get into Noster and Bitcoin.

847
01:09:06,302 --> 01:09:09,582
And, you know, even the legend of...

848
01:09:10,642 --> 01:09:14,122
I love thinking about him explaining to his wife

849
01:09:14,122 --> 01:09:16,762
while he's talking to all these OnlyFans girls,

850
01:09:16,762 --> 01:09:20,822
telling them what Noster is and stuff.

851
01:09:21,182 --> 01:09:24,662
Oh, man, that was such a great period right there.

852
01:09:25,662 --> 01:09:26,922
That is a classic story.

853
01:09:28,482 --> 01:09:30,602
All right, well, next song we've got

854
01:09:30,602 --> 01:09:33,442
High Through the Lows by Ollie.

855
01:09:33,722 --> 01:09:34,602
Tell me about this one.

856
01:09:34,602 --> 01:09:38,562
This is another one that I just randomly stumbled upon on Wavelake.

857
01:09:38,562 --> 01:09:51,422
and um i uh it's one of those like it's it feels like a like a cozy it's it's cold and rainy here

858
01:09:51,422 --> 01:09:58,022
today in mississippi and this is the perfect song for that i feel like it's not like a sad song

859
01:09:58,022 --> 01:10:04,702
really but like it's it's a good vibey vibe song like you you kind of want to like put it on a

860
01:10:04,702 --> 01:10:10,082
blanket and listen to it play some play your Nintendo Switch or something so imagine you're

861
01:10:10,082 --> 01:10:15,562
doing that while you listen to this all right here we go High Through the Lows by Ollie

862
01:10:15,562 --> 01:10:31,882
nothing comes cheap especially when it free a lot of people talk but they really ain't speak

863
01:10:31,882 --> 01:10:34,722
I was blind to it all, last night see

864
01:10:34,722 --> 01:10:37,442
Careful who you trust, who you give your energy

865
01:10:37,442 --> 01:10:40,542
Made some paper when it goes, but only one of those

866
01:10:40,542 --> 01:10:43,122
Only thing I'm trying is to feed the family

867
01:10:43,122 --> 01:10:45,722
That shit all that I know, yeah

868
01:10:45,722 --> 01:10:47,982
I got high through the lows

869
01:10:47,982 --> 01:10:51,782
Nothing come cheap, especially when it's free

870
01:10:51,782 --> 01:10:54,562
Lot of people talk, but they really ain't speak

871
01:10:54,562 --> 01:10:57,482
I was blind to it all, last night see

872
01:10:57,482 --> 01:11:00,202
Careful who you trust, who you give your energy

873
01:11:00,202 --> 01:11:03,402
Make some paper when it goes, but don't even wanna doze

874
01:11:03,402 --> 01:11:05,802
Only thing I'm trying is to feed the family

875
01:11:05,802 --> 01:11:08,442
The shit off that I know, yeah

876
01:11:08,442 --> 01:11:10,702
I got high through the lows

877
01:11:10,702 --> 01:11:15,962
Put my head down, really did the work

878
01:11:15,962 --> 01:11:18,822
Never took a dollar, not a penny for a verse

879
01:11:18,822 --> 01:11:21,582
Shredding on my sick strength, tell my fingers hurt

880
01:11:21,582 --> 01:11:24,522
Life can be a bitch, but our trust could be worse

881
01:11:24,522 --> 01:11:28,462
Put the team all on my shoulders, I'm a soldier

882
01:11:28,462 --> 01:11:31,302
Feel like this shit my collar duty, don't need no controller

883
01:11:31,302 --> 01:11:34,162
It ain't hard to spot the bullshit, it's got an order

884
01:11:34,162 --> 01:11:36,822
Couple pennies for my thoughts, I ain't need to pop

885
01:11:36,822 --> 01:11:39,682
Blowing on my phone, trying to speak, but don't really talk

886
01:11:39,682 --> 01:11:42,482
Lot of people out here for themselves, it's a big facade

887
01:11:42,482 --> 01:11:45,382
I think that it's wise to forgive, but I ain't forgot

888
01:11:45,382 --> 01:11:48,622
Cause nothing comes cheap, especially when it's free

889
01:11:48,622 --> 01:11:51,462
Lot of people talk, but they really ain't speak

890
01:11:51,462 --> 01:11:54,322
I was blind to it all, last night's seat

891
01:11:54,322 --> 01:11:56,982
Careful who you trust, who you give your energy

892
01:11:56,982 --> 01:12:00,222
Make some paper when it goes, but only one of those

893
01:12:00,222 --> 01:12:02,622
Only thing I'm trying is to feed the family

894
01:12:02,622 --> 01:12:05,242
That shit all that I know, yeah

895
01:12:05,242 --> 01:12:07,502
I got high through the lows

896
01:12:07,502 --> 01:12:11,342
Nothing come cheap, especially when it's free

897
01:12:11,342 --> 01:12:14,082
Lot of people talk, but they really ain't speak

898
01:12:14,082 --> 01:12:16,982
I was blind to it all, last night see

899
01:12:16,982 --> 01:12:19,722
Careful who you trust, who you give your energy

900
01:12:19,722 --> 01:12:22,782
Make some paper when it goes, but only one of those

901
01:12:22,782 --> 01:12:25,342
Only thing I'm trying is to feed the family

902
01:12:25,342 --> 01:12:30,222
the shit off that i know yeah i got hot through the lows

903
01:12:30,222 --> 01:12:54,042
okay maybe i lied it maybe is a little sadder than i remember the first time i listened to it

904
01:12:54,042 --> 01:12:55,222
but still a great song.

905
01:12:56,102 --> 01:12:56,982
That is a great song.

906
01:12:57,982 --> 01:12:58,642
Good pick.

907
01:13:02,022 --> 01:13:04,922
So, coming up to your final song here,

908
01:13:05,022 --> 01:13:06,942
we gotta lead up into the banger.

909
01:13:08,182 --> 01:13:12,502
It's the Quex and Tatum Turnip collab.

910
01:13:13,642 --> 01:13:14,562
Well, kind of collab.

911
01:13:14,562 --> 01:13:16,702
I did actually collab on one of his songs.

912
01:13:16,702 --> 01:13:19,342
he asked me to

913
01:13:19,342 --> 01:13:20,762
record

914
01:13:20,762 --> 01:13:22,802
something

915
01:13:22,802 --> 01:13:24,282
that I posted

916
01:13:24,282 --> 01:13:27,062
I can't even remember exactly what it was

917
01:13:27,062 --> 01:13:29,242
but it was basically like me just like

918
01:13:29,242 --> 01:13:31,182
raging and he

919
01:13:31,182 --> 01:13:32,982
sampled it and I was like oh that's cool

920
01:13:32,982 --> 01:13:35,322
but this one this is actually how

921
01:13:35,322 --> 01:13:37,202
I got

922
01:13:37,202 --> 01:13:38,282
introduced to Quex

923
01:13:38,282 --> 01:13:41,302
I had just hit

924
01:13:41,302 --> 01:13:43,322
a thousand subs on

925
01:13:43,322 --> 01:13:45,522
YouTube and

926
01:13:45,522 --> 01:13:50,842
I mean, I didn't ask for this or anything, but within

927
01:13:50,842 --> 01:13:54,842
like a couple of minutes of me posting

928
01:13:54,842 --> 01:13:58,962
it on Noster, I feel like it was straight up

929
01:13:58,962 --> 01:14:02,842
a couple of minutes or a couple hours something. It was very quick. I see that

930
01:14:02,842 --> 01:14:06,602
this guy, Man Like Quicks, made a song

931
01:14:06,602 --> 01:14:10,942
with the cover art was a screenshot of my YouTube channel

932
01:14:10,942 --> 01:14:15,062
and I was like, what? And I listened to it and it was

933
01:14:15,062 --> 01:14:23,482
insane it was i mean i'll let you i won't spoil anything but i mean quex is just so like this man

934
01:14:23,482 --> 01:14:29,862
is this man is awesome um he is great he also oh wait hold on what was the

935
01:14:29,862 --> 01:14:39,102
oh yeah i also forgot he made a song about uh another one kind of including me he so

936
01:14:39,102 --> 01:14:41,502
crazy how it all worked out

937
01:14:41,502 --> 01:14:44,302
I can't remember if I did it

938
01:14:44,302 --> 01:14:45,782
or he did it but

939
01:14:45,782 --> 01:14:48,122
we were the sender and the receiver

940
01:14:48,122 --> 01:14:50,182
of the one millionth zap on

941
01:14:50,182 --> 01:14:50,602
Noster

942
01:14:50,602 --> 01:14:54,142
I can't remember if I sent it to him or he sent it

943
01:14:54,142 --> 01:14:56,142
but he made a song about

944
01:14:56,142 --> 01:14:56,802
that too

945
01:14:56,802 --> 01:15:00,162
Quags is just like he's one of those guys

946
01:15:00,162 --> 01:15:02,102
that he can make

947
01:15:02,102 --> 01:15:04,202
a song about anything

948
01:15:04,202 --> 01:15:04,702
really

949
01:15:04,702 --> 01:15:07,922
and that goes

950
01:15:07,922 --> 01:15:14,662
so does this and he gives some shout outs here in this song uh including our man derrick ross uh

951
01:15:14,662 --> 01:15:22,262
dude this is this is one of my favorite songs and i it's a little shorter but like i i love it i also

952
01:15:22,262 --> 01:15:27,302
put it after he released it i showed it to carl my producer and he was like this song bangs i was

953
01:15:27,302 --> 01:15:32,542
like hey we're putting this in the credits of my next episode rather than uh the ghost face

954
01:15:32,542 --> 01:15:40,222
killer song that i usually do i love it well here it is man like quakes and tatum turn up

955
01:15:40,222 --> 01:15:47,882
live on sunday brunch yo it's my like quakes in tanzania let's go

956
01:15:47,882 --> 01:15:52,362
my like yeah

957
01:15:52,362 --> 01:16:00,382
yeah my like quakes turn up yo congrats bro let's get it yeah

958
01:16:00,382 --> 01:16:03,382
Yo, mama, I made it

959
01:16:03,382 --> 01:16:05,182
Between two ASICs, yo

960
01:16:05,182 --> 01:16:06,602
Tatum got a thousand subs

961
01:16:06,602 --> 01:16:07,962
So out here celebrating

962
01:16:07,962 --> 01:16:09,802
And I'm Nostapleb, verified

963
01:16:09,802 --> 01:16:11,422
Derrick Ross, certified

964
01:16:11,422 --> 01:16:12,782
I orange-pilled my barber

965
01:16:12,782 --> 01:16:14,622
Now he's getting zapped worldwide

966
01:16:14,622 --> 01:16:17,482
From Nostarica all the way to Nostania

967
01:16:17,482 --> 01:16:19,122
Nostasia is next

968
01:16:19,122 --> 01:16:20,722
No good making custom gear

969
01:16:20,722 --> 01:16:22,402
And it hasn't been a year

970
01:16:22,402 --> 01:16:23,842
Join Feb 23

971
01:16:23,842 --> 01:16:25,362
I'm a sass millionaire

972
01:16:25,362 --> 01:16:27,202
From just rapping on beats

973
01:16:27,202 --> 01:16:28,782
Dropping songs every week

974
01:16:28,782 --> 01:16:30,362
Zapathon every week

975
01:16:30,362 --> 01:16:32,122
It's midnight in Tanzania, man.

976
01:16:32,142 --> 01:16:33,522
I should really be asleep.

977
01:16:33,742 --> 01:16:34,542
But I'm back, bro.

978
01:16:34,682 --> 01:16:35,382
I'm back, bro.

979
01:16:35,662 --> 01:16:36,042
Come through.

980
01:16:36,122 --> 01:16:37,002
Got your zaps, yo.

981
01:16:37,682 --> 01:16:40,162
Post a zap meme and zap, zap, zap, zap, yo.

982
01:16:40,642 --> 01:16:41,782
Just like that, yo.

983
01:16:42,442 --> 01:16:43,982
Thursday, Friday, every week.

984
01:16:44,162 --> 01:16:47,622
Bring a stack of sats and some zap-a-thon memes, yo.

985
01:16:48,942 --> 01:16:50,442
I'm repping for my team.

986
01:16:50,562 --> 01:16:52,202
Nostra Plebs, what up, yo?

987
01:16:52,322 --> 01:16:53,682
I'm repping for the team.

988
01:16:55,042 --> 01:16:56,862
We repping for the team.

989
01:16:56,982 --> 01:16:58,622
Nostra Plebs, what up, man?

990
01:16:58,622 --> 01:17:00,122
We repping for the team.

991
01:17:00,362 --> 01:17:25,302
man i i just had a huge smile on my on my face the entire time listening to that

992
01:17:25,302 --> 01:17:32,622
Because like it's it's less like it's not even as much celebration.

993
01:17:32,782 --> 01:17:48,662
Congratulations to me as it's kind of a time capsule now of like Nostra culture, which like back then, that was when Zapathons were happening like every single week.

994
01:17:48,662 --> 01:17:54,782
And if you posted any sort of meme, like you were just getting sats, it was a sats faucet.

995
01:17:56,162 --> 01:18:01,682
And, and Corndelorian, my man is the best Nostrum memer of all time.

996
01:18:02,342 --> 01:18:04,202
He even shouted out No Good.

997
01:18:04,982 --> 01:18:09,102
And I'm super excited for No Good's book that he's releasing.

998
01:18:09,222 --> 01:18:10,902
No Good's a great artist.

999
01:18:11,982 --> 01:18:16,802
And he, he, he has some wallpaper packs that I, that I downloaded.

1000
01:18:16,802 --> 01:18:28,682
uh he has no good radio on on zap.stream um dude listening to that again it feels just so different

1001
01:18:28,682 --> 01:18:34,662
because it's like a time capsule like i said and uh the nostril culture has changed so much but it

1002
01:18:34,662 --> 01:18:41,582
also is still rooted where it it began and and i love that song and of course i just do love

1003
01:18:41,582 --> 01:18:42,542
hearing my name,

1004
01:18:42,662 --> 01:18:45,722
it's great.

1005
01:18:47,282 --> 01:18:48,602
Whenever I first heard

1006
01:18:48,602 --> 01:18:49,662
Mama, I made it

1007
01:18:49,662 --> 01:18:50,742
Between Two Asics,

1008
01:18:50,862 --> 01:18:51,362
I was like,

1009
01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:52,562
oh, hold on.

1010
01:18:55,142 --> 01:18:56,262
Yeah, coming back

1011
01:18:56,262 --> 01:18:57,822
to Between Two Asics,

1012
01:18:59,042 --> 01:19:00,182
have you ever looked

1013
01:19:00,182 --> 01:19:01,142
into Indie Hub?

1014
01:19:02,222 --> 01:19:02,762
Indie Hub?

1015
01:19:02,822 --> 01:19:04,642
That sounds familiar, maybe?

1016
01:19:05,422 --> 01:19:06,622
I just thought of that

1017
01:19:06,622 --> 01:19:09,002
as we were

1018
01:19:09,002 --> 01:19:10,782
in between songs there.

1019
01:19:10,782 --> 01:19:16,022
Since when you started the program, none of these tools were available.

1020
01:19:16,282 --> 01:19:22,302
There's a Noster-based platform called IndieHub.

1021
01:19:22,782 --> 01:19:27,922
That's what Avi uses for his Finding Home series for releasing videos and episodes of that.

1022
01:19:28,602 --> 01:19:30,402
That could be something worth looking into.

1023
01:19:30,662 --> 01:19:32,262
Get some zaps.

1024
01:19:32,442 --> 01:19:35,902
Get some value-for-value love on those.

1025
01:19:35,962 --> 01:19:37,762
Because I know people love those episodes, man.

1026
01:19:37,762 --> 01:19:55,982
Yeah, I don't know if I've actually explored that one yet. Like I said, I took a few breaks and the development while I was gone has been just amazing. And I'll be forever grateful for people who built on Noster.

1027
01:19:55,982 --> 01:20:03,242
and I feel guilty sometimes because I did take breaks and go back to Twitter

1028
01:20:03,242 --> 01:20:09,102
because that was where I got engagement and I was trying to monetize there

1029
01:20:09,102 --> 01:20:14,702
and it seemed easier and looking back it was easier to monetize on Noster

1030
01:20:14,702 --> 01:20:18,162
even if it was a few sats here and there

1031
01:20:18,162 --> 01:20:21,642
I didn't have to get a bunch of impressions

1032
01:20:21,642 --> 01:20:29,722
which I mean, I found myself making kind of AI slop articles to try to get garner impressions.

1033
01:20:29,722 --> 01:20:34,142
And I look at myself really, and it was like, that's not you.

1034
01:20:34,382 --> 01:20:37,942
Like you're being someone else for money, which is what you don't want to do.

1035
01:20:38,102 --> 01:20:39,622
Like that's the whole mission of all this.

1036
01:20:41,182 --> 01:20:45,002
And the people who never left, they're stronger than me.

1037
01:20:45,402 --> 01:20:51,462
And I have so much respect for the people who just like, like Will Kasser and

1038
01:20:51,642 --> 01:21:00,742
Oh, I also feel so bad when I think about Will because this is just so messed up of me.

1039
01:21:02,542 --> 01:21:08,562
I tried to start Between Two Nodes.

1040
01:21:09,362 --> 01:21:25,760
This was after I started Between Two Asics but the people that I interviewed on Between Two Asics I was there for comedy and mainly satirical questions stuff like that But a lot of them I still did look up to like I said like that why I wanted

1041
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:30,600
to reach out to them because they did X, Y, or Z or whatever. And I looked up to them and learned

1042
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:37,160
from them. And so I wanted to have a different show that was longer form, more raw conversations

1043
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:45,080
between me, Carl, and a guest. And, uh, I only released, I think either two or three episodes

1044
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:51,140
because it ended up just kind of being not really my shtick. Um, and also production was a little,

1045
01:21:51,240 --> 01:22:00,040
little difficult as well. Um, but I recorded one with Will Kassarin and it was not until

1046
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:06,600
I was reviewing the footage after like an hour and a half, two hours of recording that I did

1047
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:13,180
not record any of his audio um it wasn't even i was like i would have been okay if it was

1048
01:22:13,180 --> 01:22:20,320
my audio that was gone but it was his and so i really couldn't do anything um but i did record

1049
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:27,600
a between two asics with him in vegas uh two years ago um and hopefully that will come out

1050
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:32,880
at some point too and i feel so bad because vanessa asked me all the time about it and

1051
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,220
I've lied to her saying it's coming out

1052
01:22:35,220 --> 01:22:35,980
it's coming out

1053
01:22:35,980 --> 01:22:38,940
unintentionally it never was like

1054
01:22:38,940 --> 01:22:41,000
just I need her to shut up

1055
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,200
no like it was

1056
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,180
yeah but Vanessa is also one of those

1057
01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:47,220
that like she's

1058
01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:49,040
she's great I love

1059
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,000
Vanessa so much

1060
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,360
100%

1061
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,120
well I just looked it up it's

1062
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:55,800
IndieHub

1063
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,300
IndieHub.studio

1064
01:22:59,300 --> 01:23:00,340
check that out

1065
01:23:00,340 --> 01:23:02,860
awesome yeah I'll definitely play around with that today

1066
01:23:02,860 --> 01:23:11,200
Yeah, that's where Avi's dropping all of his episodes, and I've checked out a few other things on there and met Zach over there.

1067
01:23:12,860 --> 01:23:14,200
Really cool project.

1068
01:23:15,900 --> 01:23:16,460
Sweet.

1069
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,760
There's so much projects happening.

1070
01:23:19,820 --> 01:23:20,060
Yeah.

1071
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:30,480
This is the part of the show where we turn the microphone or the record player over to Avi, and he gets to play his song.

1072
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:33,280
so neither one of us have listened to this song yet

1073
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,280
so we're going to get to play it

1074
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,980
and react to it at the same time

1075
01:23:37,980 --> 01:23:40,680
and he's going to expect some review comments from us

1076
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,200
I'm sorry to disappoint ahead of time

1077
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,760
but let's get it

1078
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,840
so here it is

1079
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,220
this is Who or Where You Are

1080
01:23:52,220 --> 01:23:53,740
by Steve Thorne

1081
01:23:53,740 --> 01:23:57,900
There is a similar establishment of the Illuminati in England,

1082
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,740
operating under the name of the British Institute of International Affairs.

1083
01:24:03,820 --> 01:24:09,700
There are similar secret Illuminati organizations in France, Germany, and other nations,

1084
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,380
operating under different names in all these organizations.

1085
01:24:14,380 --> 01:24:20,060
The CFR continues to be settled over a subsidiary for the United States.

1086
01:24:23,740 --> 01:24:33,440
We're the fall from the Bible

1087
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:37,960
The angels in the dust

1088
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:45,660
The creators of a world of greed and lust

1089
01:24:45,660 --> 01:24:52,000
There's a government

1090
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,480
And virus

1091
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,120
And objects

1092
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,460
Of the blind

1093
01:24:58,460 --> 01:25:02,040
From the Oxford

1094
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,320
Eats and clowns

1095
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,140
And the crop you blind

1096
01:25:06,140 --> 01:25:12,560
In the

1097
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,660
Got you spinning round a star

1098
01:25:16,660 --> 01:25:21,980
You don't know who or where you are

1099
01:25:21,980 --> 01:25:35,380
So the tyrants of the structure

1100
01:25:35,380 --> 01:25:39,880
Are the vampires to the mass

1101
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:47,640
There are ruthless breed of loveless bureaucrats

1102
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:55,880
Out beyond the thorough horizon

1103
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,480
There's some axes we've acquired

1104
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:08,020
And now's the time to cut the razor wire

1105
01:26:08,020 --> 01:26:18,740
Thank God she's spinning round the stars

1106
01:26:18,740 --> 01:26:23,920
You don't know who or where you are

1107
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:39,400
Who the hell is anyone

1108
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:43,760
To block the road to somewhere

1109
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:49,980
As they throw you around the sun

1110
01:26:49,980 --> 01:26:54,020
They know you're going nowhere

1111
01:27:19,980 --> 01:27:41,260
Think of a shoe spinning round a star

1112
01:27:41,260 --> 01:27:46,520
You don't know who or where you are

1113
01:27:49,980 --> 01:28:14,780
The reason for this unawareness and frightening danger to our country, the entire free world, is simple.

1114
01:28:14,780 --> 01:28:22,780
The masterminds behind the great conspiracy have absolutely full of our master's education,

1115
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:28,660
especially television, radio, press, and holiday.

1116
01:28:44,780 --> 01:29:14,760
Thank you.

1117
01:29:14,780 --> 01:29:44,760
The yield.

1118
01:29:44,780 --> 01:30:14,760
guitar solo

1119
01:30:14,780 --> 01:30:38,000
The ocean will rise

1120
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,920
One hundredth of one percent

1121
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,740
Over the next three hundred

1122
01:30:41,740 --> 01:30:42,800
Fucking years

1123
01:30:44,780 --> 01:30:53,960
Man, that felt like what I imagined, like dead concerts.

1124
01:30:53,960 --> 01:31:00,620
It was just a nice, jammy... I really liked that a lot.

1125
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,300
Yeah, that instrumental was great.

1126
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,220
It's funny, if you've been listening to all the shows,

1127
01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:18,040
the obvious song is usually the like the jolt it's like the heavy prog rock and so you just

1128
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,080
you never know what you're gonna get that was uh that was right in the middle that was really

1129
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:29,620
pleasant um really good song so that was uh steve thorn for anybody who wants to check him out

1130
01:31:29,620 --> 01:31:39,140
um so yeah tell me what what are you streaming these days tatum on a zap stream yeah so yeah

1131
01:31:39,140 --> 01:31:47,320
I, uh, so I used to be a Twitch affiliate, uh, damn, probably seven years ago.

1132
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,340
Um, and Twitch sucks.

1133
01:31:50,500 --> 01:31:52,900
I just want to go ahead and put that out there.

1134
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,080
Uh, it sucked from the beginning and it's somehow gotten worse.

1135
01:31:56,260 --> 01:32:03,060
It's one of those walled gardens that people talk about where like you really need a stroke

1136
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:08,240
of luck and to get even a chance of being successful.

1137
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:17,820
um and those strokes of luck that you need to do that are very rare and it also breeds a culture of

1138
01:32:17,820 --> 01:32:25,680
doing extreme things to try to get noticed uh which it's all that's a whole rabbit hole

1139
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:35,460
i won't go down but the main issue with with it is that i mean on top of it being just a

1140
01:32:35,460 --> 01:32:44,480
walled garden where creators are not able to monetize what they're doing um once you're able

1141
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:53,180
to monetize twitch takes a ridiculous portion uh and there's so many nuances and everything that go

1142
01:32:53,180 --> 01:33:00,900
around it around with it as well um so whenever i heard about zap.stream um i was super excited

1143
01:33:00,900 --> 01:33:06,600
because it kind of fixed all of the problems, really,

1144
01:33:06,900 --> 01:33:09,860
that you were seeing with Twitch.

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01:33:11,260 --> 01:33:18,440
And so all I say, if you are playing video games and want to stream,

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,160
definitely check out Zapstream.

1147
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:29,420
So I primarily, I did a lot of Minecraft when I was back living in Denver.

1148
01:33:29,420 --> 01:33:37,760
and that was really fun i actually got some fun clips of me trying to uh make a cow farm and it

1149
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:44,440
took me like 20 minutes and then it all fell apart like right when it started working um that was

1150
01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:52,060
oh man i'm still i still have ptsd from that thinking about it um but i've been back into

1151
01:33:52,060 --> 01:33:59,340
kaizo rom hacks uh are you familiar with those i'm not tell me you're about to go down

1152
01:33:59,340 --> 01:34:00,420
deep rabbit hole.

1153
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:01,840
So this is also where

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01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:02,820
Graham Pooh Bear

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01:34:02,820 --> 01:34:04,180
comes back into the

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01:34:04,180 --> 01:34:05,280
equation that I

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01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,060
mentioned earlier.

1158
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:16,778
He an inspiration of mine but Kaizo ROM hacks are basically people figured out how to

1159
01:34:16,778 --> 01:34:26,218
modify uh game mods are not no like that's a common thing that people do but what people don't

1160
01:34:26,218 --> 01:34:34,738
think about is like mods of older games like you see people playing like a uh i don't know like

1161
01:34:34,738 --> 01:34:42,798
Minecraft with super skyscrapers that pop out of nowhere, something like that, or GTA

1162
01:34:42,798 --> 01:34:46,178
with, but you can breathe fire, something like that.

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01:34:47,498 --> 01:34:57,518
But the way that Kaizo ROM hacks work is that they modified Super Mario World for the Super

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01:34:57,518 --> 01:34:58,738
Nintendo Entertainment System.

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01:34:58,738 --> 01:35:02,298
and I don't know the origins of Kaizo,

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01:35:02,678 --> 01:35:06,078
but it's basically super tight,

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01:35:06,638 --> 01:35:08,098
super difficult.

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01:35:08,638 --> 01:35:10,218
You use everything on screen.

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01:35:10,358 --> 01:35:11,898
There's no real standing still

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01:35:11,898 --> 01:35:15,078
and it's really fast.

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01:35:15,718 --> 01:35:17,658
There's a huge community around it too

1172
01:35:17,658 --> 01:35:18,918
and so people are,

1173
01:35:19,238 --> 01:35:21,678
there are thousands of fan-made games

1174
01:35:21,678 --> 01:35:23,838
and some of them are like,

1175
01:35:24,198 --> 01:35:27,578
some of them are just moved around different pieces

1176
01:35:27,578 --> 01:35:33,438
like the they might put a bunch of koopas in the first world or something like that but then there's

1177
01:35:33,438 --> 01:35:38,878
some that are just straight up completely different games it feels like but with the same mario mechanics

1178
01:35:38,878 --> 01:35:47,618
um and the the possibilities of it are all endless like uh i watched one yesterday a stream of

1179
01:35:47,618 --> 01:35:54,258
someone playing one where they they created the uh sprites from donkey kong country the barrels

1180
01:35:54,258 --> 01:35:59,998
that shoot you and so mario literally is jumping in these barrels and it's still just like it looks

1181
01:35:59,998 --> 01:36:06,518
and feels just like a super mario world but you can also make different gimmicks each level usually

1182
01:36:06,518 --> 01:36:14,018
has a gimmick like um one of them was uh a shell jump level where you have to do a bunch of shell

1183
01:36:14,018 --> 01:36:21,038
jumps and which is bouncing a shell off of a wall and and getting on higher ground or something um

1184
01:36:21,038 --> 01:36:29,958
there's all sorts of stuff and super customizable and so i've been streaming that it's it's really

1185
01:36:29,958 --> 01:36:36,958
it's difficult and there's a lot of deaths but that's expected uh but sometimes it's really fun

1186
01:36:36,958 --> 01:36:43,458
when you get it you get it so uh if if anyone wants to go down that rabbit hole feel free to

1187
01:36:43,458 --> 01:36:50,298
follow me on nostr and see whenever i i go live to to come chat with me and and see about it and

1188
01:36:50,298 --> 01:36:57,158
also look up uh grand poo bear is the guy i was mentioning he he's a red bull uh athlete actually

1189
01:36:57,158 --> 01:37:04,098
um he's the only mario streamer that signed with red bull uh but he's super super cool super

1190
01:37:04,098 --> 01:37:10,138
talented people have made rom hacks dedicated to him grand poo world uh grand poo world grand

1191
01:37:10,138 --> 01:37:18,238
world 2 and grand poo world 3 um by barbers king i i could go on for hours talking about the history

1192
01:37:18,238 --> 01:37:26,818
of this stuff but it the community was very um very welcoming and very helpful for me uh in a

1193
01:37:26,818 --> 01:37:36,638
dark time in my life back in uh around the pandemic um a little before i it was just like

1194
01:37:36,638 --> 01:37:43,538
that was when things were you know shutting down and and i was going through some personal stuff

1195
01:37:43,538 --> 01:37:49,938
And the fact that I was having to close off my social life too wasn't helping.

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01:37:50,218 --> 01:37:57,638
And, uh, and so I got intertwined in that community and realized that I'm a sicko because

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01:37:57,638 --> 01:38:00,118
I like really hard Mario levels.

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01:38:00,598 --> 01:38:06,618
Um, and so I, I was playing Mario maker and, and also if you want to learn about ROM hacks

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01:38:06,618 --> 01:38:12,458
too, like you can, as long as you have a keyboard or a computer and a keyboard, I guess, usually

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01:38:12,458 --> 01:38:16,458
Usually people get a USB SNES controller.

1201
01:38:16,638 --> 01:38:17,298
That's what I do.

1202
01:38:17,778 --> 01:38:21,798
But you can also do it with mouse and keyboard, but you can key bind.

1203
01:38:21,958 --> 01:38:23,758
But you can do all of this for free.

1204
01:38:24,798 --> 01:38:26,158
It's a little difficult.

1205
01:38:26,358 --> 01:38:30,098
I mean, if anyone wants, I can just hit me up and I can help you out.

1206
01:38:30,098 --> 01:38:36,478
But it's kind of hard to learn how to do it because there's some weird copyright stuff.

1207
01:38:36,658 --> 01:38:38,018
You can't promote it or something.

1208
01:38:38,278 --> 01:38:38,998
It's weird.

1209
01:38:38,998 --> 01:38:47,658
but apparently the game genie lawsuit in 92 allowed this to happen super weird but and it's

1210
01:38:47,658 --> 01:38:56,138
all completely legal but um yeah it's it's so much fun there's a a world that you don't even

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01:38:56,138 --> 01:39:02,658
know exist in the mario community um and i would love if anyone wants to come watch and

1212
01:39:02,658 --> 01:39:11,178
because I by no means am I a good Kaizo Mario player like if you go look up some of it and if

1213
01:39:11,178 --> 01:39:18,378
you want to look it up it's K-A-I-Z-O Mario if you look at those people that are playing it when you

1214
01:39:18,378 --> 01:39:25,338
that pop up when you look it up on YouTube like those guys are masters but there's plenty of like

1215
01:39:25,338 --> 01:39:32,358
intermediate smaller stuff uh that people have made the to kind of train people on it and so

1216
01:39:32,358 --> 01:39:39,058
i'm doing that kind of trying to just build my skill set and uh it it's a real it's it's like a

1217
01:39:39,058 --> 01:39:47,838
nice little satisfaction uh dopamine hit after you die uh 150 times but you know it's super fun

1218
01:39:47,838 --> 01:39:54,918
so how how often are you on zap stream with that i i'm a little sporadic right now um i'm doing a

1219
01:39:54,918 --> 01:40:01,118
little bit of traveling back and forth uh to my hometown but um i'll typically do it like

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01:40:01,118 --> 01:40:08,618
at the very least on friday nights i will i'll be streaming um around like five o'clock central

1221
01:40:08,618 --> 01:40:17,698
uh but i'll always post it on nostr as well whenever i whenever i go live so uh i i probably

1222
01:40:17,698 --> 01:40:22,798
should try to get a stream schedule because that would make things a lot easier but sometimes you

1223
01:40:22,798 --> 01:40:30,078
know just you don't you don't want to do it yeah yeah no it helps but it is uh it's binding yeah

1224
01:40:30,078 --> 01:40:36,498
like i know like my deadlines for between two asics that never came true yeah yeah i mean i

1225
01:40:36,498 --> 01:40:43,098
know like sunday brunch i know when it is so i you know wake up on sunday and then realize all right

1226
01:40:43,098 --> 01:40:50,158
it's 11 let's go and then like pcr on friday afternoons you just kind of know your shows and

1227
01:40:50,158 --> 01:40:55,058
when they come on you can always catch the recorded one but it's it's not as fun yeah yeah

1228
01:40:55,058 --> 01:41:02,238
and the live is really fun too because like a lot of the um the big players when they stream

1229
01:41:02,238 --> 01:41:10,658
they they're really strict about no spoilers um but they also have a ton of viewers so like it's

1230
01:41:10,658 --> 01:41:18,378
really fun for them to kind of like uh not necessarily give hints but kind of oh you you're

1231
01:41:18,378 --> 01:41:23,098
not ready for this next section or something that they have seen it before but like with me where i

1232
01:41:23,098 --> 01:41:29,958
don't have many viewers it's fun for people to help me out because sometimes like the way that

1233
01:41:29,958 --> 01:41:36,678
kaizo mario hacks are set up is that there is a singular way to do something 99 of the time

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01:41:36,678 --> 01:41:44,538
um and sometimes it's kind of hard to see that like it's if you're an experienced player it's

1235
01:41:44,538 --> 01:41:52,098
kind of easy to read i'd say 75 of the time but that 25 of the time i might need to look at chat

1236
01:41:52,098 --> 01:41:59,858
and say hey y'all know what i need to do here um and it's its own journey it's it's super fun because

1237
01:41:59,858 --> 01:42:07,998
no one would like you don't tune into someone playing an old school platformer mario game and

1238
01:42:07,998 --> 01:42:14,218
expect to sit there for a couple of hours like that's just a game that people grew up on but

1239
01:42:14,218 --> 01:42:22,578
Like this one, Kaizo hacks are ones like I can, I still haven't beat a single full Kaizo Mario hack that I've downloaded.

1240
01:42:22,578 --> 01:42:26,418
So it's a grind fest.

1241
01:42:26,538 --> 01:42:27,218
It's really fun.

1242
01:42:27,418 --> 01:42:34,998
And then they get like, some are made to be torture where like only the top 0.01% can do it.

1243
01:42:35,018 --> 01:42:36,358
Like there's one called Thumb Shredder.

1244
01:42:36,358 --> 01:42:43,558
and I have not even attempted to do that because as you can imagine by the name it's built to make

1245
01:42:43,558 --> 01:42:50,018
your thumbs die um because there's so many backwards inputs and all this stuff but uh

1246
01:42:50,018 --> 01:42:56,298
yeah I I it's it's something that like it's a weird kind of passion that I that I have but I

1247
01:42:56,298 --> 01:43:02,818
want other people to look into it not necessarily play it but see if see if you like watching it

1248
01:43:02,818 --> 01:43:11,658
Because it's really fun to see creators make their own versions of Super Mario World.

1249
01:43:11,778 --> 01:43:13,558
Or maybe they make it something else.

1250
01:43:13,558 --> 01:43:18,898
I watched one where this guy made Super Cindy World for his wife.

1251
01:43:19,238 --> 01:43:24,758
And it was a whole hack dedicated to his wife with custom sprites and stuff of her and all this.

1252
01:43:25,018 --> 01:43:29,798
And it's a weird calming thing sometimes, too.

1253
01:43:29,878 --> 01:43:31,038
But also, it can be stressful.

1254
01:43:32,818 --> 01:43:38,978
i'll have to check that out this is a whole new world for me it's it's so much fun and i i never

1255
01:43:38,978 --> 01:43:44,418
thought that i would like ask people to get into it but like i need more people to talk about it too

1256
01:43:44,418 --> 01:43:50,218
because it's it's there's a world it's not even like super mario world came out in i think 92

1257
01:43:50,218 --> 01:44:00,398
i want to say there are still the hacks that were coming out in like the 2018-ish era they were kind

1258
01:44:00,398 --> 01:44:05,598
of basic and then you come back a couple years later and people have learned a little more on

1259
01:44:05,598 --> 01:44:10,798
the hacky side of things to make it a little more customized and then now people are still pushing

1260
01:44:10,798 --> 01:44:17,258
out hacks and like I said they're almost completely different games with Mario mechanics and it's uh

1261
01:44:17,258 --> 01:44:22,998
it's it's really fun and it also just kind of brings me back to childhood too it's like it's

1262
01:44:22,998 --> 01:44:29,338
like Mario grew with me because when I was a kid playing Mario like that was difficult at times

1263
01:44:29,338 --> 01:44:30,858
now as an adult

1264
01:44:30,858 --> 01:44:33,558
I'm still playing those levels and it's

1265
01:44:33,558 --> 01:44:35,338
you know easier it's way easier

1266
01:44:35,338 --> 01:44:37,338
but with Kaizo it kind of

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01:44:37,338 --> 01:44:39,578
it's like hey this game that you

1268
01:44:39,578 --> 01:44:40,478
loved when you were younger

1269
01:44:40,478 --> 01:44:43,358
it's now even more

1270
01:44:43,358 --> 01:44:45,618
difficult and you can kind of pick and choose

1271
01:44:45,618 --> 01:44:47,338
what difficulty you want to do it with

1272
01:44:47,338 --> 01:44:48,998
yeah

1273
01:44:48,998 --> 01:44:50,338
very cool

1274
01:44:50,338 --> 01:44:52,998
so check me out on zap.stream

1275
01:44:52,998 --> 01:44:55,598
love it yeah make sure you

1276
01:44:55,598 --> 01:44:57,598
send the message far and wide

1277
01:44:57,598 --> 01:44:59,158
when you go live absolutely

1278
01:44:59,158 --> 01:45:02,138
well Tatum

1279
01:45:02,138 --> 01:45:03,658
anything else that you want to

1280
01:45:03,658 --> 01:45:05,578
touch on on the

1281
01:45:05,578 --> 01:45:08,538
the first guest host

1282
01:45:08,538 --> 01:45:09,318
Sunday brunch

1283
01:45:09,318 --> 01:45:12,478
I think we covered most of it but I'll leave some

1284
01:45:12,478 --> 01:45:13,378
parting words

1285
01:45:13,378 --> 01:45:16,278
sacrifice convenience

1286
01:45:16,278 --> 01:45:17,918
until then you're not free

1287
01:45:17,918 --> 01:45:19,198
and

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01:45:19,198 --> 01:45:21,478
just

1289
01:45:21,478 --> 01:45:24,418
make the world a better place

1290
01:45:24,418 --> 01:45:26,778
whether you get reward from it or not

1291
01:45:26,778 --> 01:45:28,838
do something to make someone else smile

1292
01:45:28,838 --> 01:45:30,658
and pay it forward.

1293
01:45:31,218 --> 01:45:33,538
So that's my parting words.

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01:45:34,478 --> 01:45:35,058
I love that.

1295
01:45:35,458 --> 01:45:40,318
And make sure you check out Tatum performing on April 28th,

1296
01:45:40,398 --> 01:45:42,818
the Tuesday of the Bitcoin conference in Vegas.

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01:45:44,718 --> 01:45:47,658
We all scream on Fremont Street.

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01:45:47,838 --> 01:45:49,618
There'll be some posts going around.

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01:45:49,618 --> 01:45:51,658
So book yourself for that night.

1300
01:45:52,578 --> 01:45:54,998
And we're going to keep him accountable to this

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01:45:54,998 --> 01:45:57,318
between two ASICs release schedule.

1302
01:45:57,318 --> 01:45:59,258
so we're going to keep trolling them

1303
01:45:59,258 --> 01:46:00,358
until we get more episodes

1304
01:46:00,358 --> 01:46:00,978
one day

1305
01:46:00,978 --> 01:46:05,698
alright man well this has been so much fun

1306
01:46:05,698 --> 01:46:06,818
thanks for joining me

1307
01:46:06,818 --> 01:46:08,238
thanks for coming on to

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01:46:08,238 --> 01:46:11,998
Pleb Chain Radio Network

1309
01:46:11,998 --> 01:46:12,638
and

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01:46:12,638 --> 01:46:15,458
look forward to seeing you in the near future

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01:46:15,458 --> 01:46:15,918
here brother

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01:46:15,918 --> 01:46:17,218
absolutely

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01:46:17,218 --> 01:46:20,778
alright have a great day everyone

1314
01:46:20,778 --> 01:46:23,438
and until next week

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01:46:23,438 --> 01:46:24,018
we have

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01:46:24,018 --> 01:46:26,998
Aaron of Essex

1317
01:46:26,998 --> 01:46:34,418
and Longy will be guest host, guest host and guest theme this show next week. So make sure

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01:46:34,418 --> 01:46:39,758
to tune in for that. Thank you, everybody. Cheers, everyone. Bye.

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