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Welcome back to episode 20. Episode 20, guys. Can you believe it? Episode 20 of To The Unknown

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Pod. My name is Jordan Bush. I'm the executive director of TGFB Media, which exists to help

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Christians understand and use Bitcoin for the glory of God and good of people everywhere.

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I'm joined by Ryan and Matt. Ryan, introduce yourself and then Matt, you can follow.

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Yeah, I'm Ryan Finley, tech entrepreneur, father of six. Yeah. Bitcoin triple maxi. Yeah, it's good to be here.

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I'm Matt Purvis, still working on my maxi card, according to the strict rules of this podcast anyways. And also father of six, business owner and longtime pastor in Hawaii.

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using what we like to call the right way. Yes, you're working on it. It's kidding. We'll get

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you there. So yeah, we are here. So if you have stumbled in here somehow and you've wondered what

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in the world is this supposed to be, we are Christians. We are dads. We are husbands. And so

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when we spend time on Twitter, we don't just want to leave it there and then just have

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quote unquote wasted that time. We want to redeem it. So what we do is we just basically use this

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podcast as kind of like a debrief session from the most helpful things that we found on Twitter

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things that might have to do with investing, might have to do with scripture, might have to do with

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parenting, husbandry, any one of a number of things. And so we kind of bring them here and

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then we just debrief with some of our good friends who are experts and have succeeded in

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different fields. And so they bring expertise and then we kind of talk about those things.

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So this week, we're here, we're missing Osh. It's become a reoccurring theme. We miss him.

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Hopefully he'll be back next week.

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Spending all this time with family and stuff.

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Like, what's that all about?

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My goodness.

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Like, what?

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I don't get it.

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But hopefully he'll return.

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But, you know, meanwhile, Bitcoin is just pumping the living daylights out right now.

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I believe we've come down a little bit.

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I think we're at like 117.

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Bitcoin, Ryan, pumped up to $123,000.

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And so, again, we just have a whole lot of stuff going on.

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And we want to just kind of, again, this is not going to be a full-blown, we're not going to be singing the Pump It Up song.

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We're not going to have that latently in the background.

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But we are going to kind of talk about it a little bit.

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Joe Consorti, friend of the program, shared this.

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$1.3 billion in shorts were liquidated in less than 60 seconds a couple days ago.

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Bitcoin skipped straight past $120K and went directly to $121,000.

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US dollars. That is at 2.3 trillion market cap. Bitcoin is now officially larger than

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amazon.com and is the world's fifth largest asset. This is insane, guys. Insane that Bitcoin

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is at a bigger market cap than Amazon. It's probably down smaller than Amazon right now,

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just because of this recent little dip here.

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But holy cow, just absolutely nuts.

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I'll let you guys kind of take it from there.

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Anybody, I mean, what do you want to add to that?

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Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

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There's a proverb about give me not too much

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and not too little.

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And I'm just like, in my personal life,

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I'm waiting for my ACH to clear so I can buy some more.

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And I'm hoping God has a good plan for my life

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because, you know, so for me, a little sideways action

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is what I'm looking for.

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Yeah, you know, it's true.

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It could be dangerous.

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We're happy that Ryan is being sanctified

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even if his bank account coffers are not being filled.

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If we see a pretty good dip,

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everyone should know that at least one pastor

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in Hawaii will be happy.

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We'll blame him.

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I like this.

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I like having a faithfully praying for a dip.

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I definitely like that we can have someone to blame.

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That's good preparatory work there from our man in Oregon.

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So, yeah, we got just a ton of stuff going on.

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Now, again, there's probably a lot of people.

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I mean, there's just tons of voices, right, in the Bitcoin space that we are grateful for.

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Well-known folks who are friends of TGFB, friends of ours, Preston Pish.

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You know, we've got Mark Moss.

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We've got, I mean, Jeff Booth is an acquaintance.

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You know, we are grateful for these guys.

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somebody like Lynn Alden producing great content, just tons of friends of ours who are producing

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tons of great content. And you're probably expecting to hear some of their names on this

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program. There probably are some other names that you would never in a million years expect to see

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on this program. And probably near the top of that list would be one, Udi Wertheimer.

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Okay. Udi Wertheimer, he is of a number of famous things. He's just done a bunch of,

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I can't remember what's the wizards, the taproot wizards, done a bunch of stuff. He's not like a

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Bitcoin only guy. And yet he had this tweet yesterday that I meant to share and then it

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didn't work called, this Bitcoin thesis will retire your bloodline. Okay. Now we don't need

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to go read through this whole thing because it is long. But you should go find this. Go find Udi's,

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his Twitter account. Here's basically what he says. Here's his thesis. He basically looks at

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what happened with Dogecoin. And he basically says, I think that what happened with Dogecoin

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is a harbinger of what's going to happen with Bitcoin, namely this. Early on, Dogecoin's a

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complete joke. People were just, you know, thought it was hilarious. They accumulated massive

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positions in these things. So quote unquote, doge whales, uh, had all, you know, gazillions of these

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scam tokens. And then they had like this group of, um, you know, people, there was some interest.

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And so the, the coin pumped, uh, they went up to like 10 X or something. And so then some of them,

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some people sold some more people came in. And, uh, and so once this thing had pumped like 10 X,

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They just were kind of, you're 100X, 20X, whatever.

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You had a lot of these people who just basically said,

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well, I mean, we've made a ton of money and then they sold.

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Elon starts tweeting about Doge.

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A number of other people start tweeting about Doge.

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Doge is one of like seven coins in 2022

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or something that was on Robinhood.

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And so then you had this whole nother wave of retail people

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who just started buying Doge because it was,

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the unit bias is real and they started,

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They were able to buy gazillions of these things relative to the amount of Bitcoin that they were able to purchase, the amount of Ethereum and whatever you've got going on.

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And so it ended up resulting in, I think, like a 200x or 2,000x, some insane thing.

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And once it had pumped to these levels, you had a lot of these people who'd been holding since the beginning who were just like, this is insane.

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They sold their entire positions, became super, super wealthy, you know, very quickly.

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And they thought, boom, that's the end of it.

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Well, the problem was that you now had all these new people who for them, it was the beginning.

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And so they're holding lots of these things.

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And so then it ended up being another huge pump up from there.

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And so what Udi is talking about is the fact that something similar, he believes, is happening with Bitcoin,

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which is you have a lot of these Bitcoin whales who've been holding since 2009, 2010, 2011, 12,

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whatever it is, who have thousands of Bitcoin or tens of thousands of Bitcoin. And these people

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have been unloading Bitcoin once we got to 100K and especially once we get to something like 120K.

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For them, they're multi-billionaires. I mean, it's insane how much money they've got. And so

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they're just in unload their position mode. Meanwhile, you have tons of, you know, Bitcoin,

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these treasury companies, you have large companies like BlackRock, you have a whole bunch of just

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normal businesses who are feeling the pressure, who are realizing that they're short Bitcoin,

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and they are buying up like multiples of the daily issuance every day. They're just buying

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up all the Bitcoin times, you know, times five, six of the daily issuance. There's so much demand

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out there that it's not even funny. And so, so much of what's going on. So Udi is basically saying,

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hey, we're watching the same thing happen in real time. People are thinking that, you know,

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this is going to be the top. And he's just basically saying, no, I think that we're going

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to cycle up. He's like, I think we're going to get to $450,000. And then if we get to then,

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then you could see something similar happen where a new set of people start to sell off some of

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their stuff. And you're going to have even more pressure from these massive institutions, massive

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nations, and all of these things we're just going to be buying who have different time horizons and

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who have basically effectively unlimited money to be able to buy this scarce asset. And so he's

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just basically saying now is not the time for altcoins. Now is not the time for any of these

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other things. They're all going to get left in the dust because the game right now is accumulate

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Bitcoin. That is the game. It's always been the game, but now more than ever, it really is the

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game. And so again, was not expecting Udi to be the voice of reason, but here we are. Udi,

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he's not everything, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And Udi's been right about other

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things in the past. So yeah, it shouldn't surprise me. It shouldn't surprise us completely, but I

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just was really found this really compelling and uh yeah i think it's gonna get a lot crazier

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before it gets less crazy yeah now it sounds like he's relating it in a way like it's gonna do the

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same thing as doge overall go up and then pop well no yeah he's he's not saying i don't think

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he's saying that he's just saying uh yeah i mean he i don't think he's saying that he's basically

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saying hey this thing is gonna keep going up it's gonna be crazy um yeah again pardon we the our

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Kids at home won't be able to read this, but basically we, which is good.

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So he basically says Bitcoin is bigger than Dogecoin.

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So maybe we don't see a 10X straight away.

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But as I said before, I have a high degree of confidence that we'll see $400,000 by the

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end of the year.

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And this target might be too conservative, just given the nature of things that are going

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on.

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And then again, you might see a correction, like that's possible, but it's also very,

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very possible that that correction like doesn't happen because by that point, as it gets to that

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point, like there's a certain point at which like right now you still have the vast majority of

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companies on the stock exchange, the vast majority of countries who have sovereign wealth funds and

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all these things, they still don't own any big, they're still short. They're still, they still

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don't have any positions. And, and for them, if you're talking about a nation, that's hundreds of

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billions of dollars or tens of billions of dollars in the case of even these small countries,

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you're still talking massive amounts of money that could pour in to buy Bitcoin. And again,

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that doesn't even count the United States who has at least nominally said that they're going to start

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accumulating Bitcoin, as far as we know, have not been buying Bitcoin. And so you're just really,

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I mean, and they have, I mean, really have unlimited money that has more purchasing power

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than anything else out there.

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And so I just think things are going to get insane.

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And yeah, I'm not at all convinced

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that this is not a super cycle,

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that we're going to see another correction.

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I'm not at all convinced that that's the case.

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Yeah, and you also have the financial advisors

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that are finally capitulating.

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I think one friend of ours said that,

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I think we said this a few episodes ago,

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But, you know, the career risk is going to be not recommending at least a small, you know, a small investment into Bitcoin to clients by the end of the summer or this fall versus it was the career risk the other way up until this point.

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And that's significant because that's a huge percentage of the wealth, you know, in the United States.

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And then you got, yeah, Wall Street short.

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Most of Wall Street short.

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all the pension funds

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government

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I agree

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Elon short

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once you start to wake up to the reality

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once these guys

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it takes time

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these guys are all busy

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all these governments are busy

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the average politician in the United States

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spends 50% of their time on the phone

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trying to raise money

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so they're spending half their time

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trying just to raise money to be elected again.

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And the other half of the time,

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they're trying to get stuff done on Capitol Hill.

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All of these businesses are trying to deal

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with tariff realities.

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They're trying to deal with just inflation realities.

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They're sitting here trying to deal with all these things

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and just day-to-day things.

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And so it takes time for them to reconcile

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with the need to spend the time and the resources

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and the energy to understand Bitcoin,

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much less to start allocating capital to it.

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And so again, we're just now hitting this point

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for, I mean, we're more than what, 2% of, you know,

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we're more than 2% of companies and nations

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are considering or actually accumulating Bitcoin.

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We are just still, I mean, absurdly early.

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Yeah, but again, at least the urgency is there

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for a lot of these people.

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I think they're starting to wake up

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to how late it is for them.

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I had a buddy of mine message me the other day

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and we were talking a little bit about, you know,

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at a certain point at a certain price point if you have you know and this is gonna be different

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for everyone but it's like your age and also the amount of bitcoin you have at a certain point like

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uh you're a little bit less price sensitive to like when you sell that because life is short

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right yep and there's a lot of there's a lot of people that have been in i mean bitcoin's been

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around for almost 16 years now um that means that a lot of the early bitcoiners have been in for a

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long time yeah and at 116 120 000 that's a i mean that that is a a huge amount of wealth that yeah

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i mean why not cash out a bunch of it and just live you know um yeah these people aren't going

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to sell all their bitcoin but they'll sell a bunch and like yeah yeah so it's and and honestly

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that's going to happen from here on out like you're there's going to be different waves of

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Bitcoiners that are going to, you know, they'll, they'll cash in.

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I saw one yesterday that was like 30,000, a $32,000 position that sold for like 9.2 billion

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or something like that. And it was on the blockchain, you know, and, um, you know, not

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again, I might lose my maxi card again, but I would probably do it too. Uh, some, some of it,

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because if you're, if you're in that position, uh, I'm, I'm a believer, it's not going to get

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hacked. It's not going to get, uh, what do you call this? That the quantum mechanic is not going

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to get any of that stuff, but would I take my, um, my 10 generation money and bet all my 10

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generations and bet all of it on it. No, I wouldn't do that. Cause I'm not even technical

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enough to have a hundred percent certainty. So if I was in their shoes and I had everything,

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and if there's a 1% chance, that's way too high. 1% is way too high. You know?

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And again, that's the reality.

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I mean, these guys, I mean, somebody yesterday sold 80,000 Bitcoin.

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Like, I mean, that's absurd.

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That means they definitely didn't just sell all their Bitcoin.

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They probably just sold maybe maximum half.

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Probably likely less than that.

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And so you're just, I mean, it's absurd.

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It's absurd.

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So he just became a billionaire.

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Congratulations.

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You just became, what is that?

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Is it 2 billion?

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I can't remember what it is.

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However many billion it is.

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You just became a billionaire yesterday.

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Now, again, you got a big tax bill.

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you got a bunch of other stuff. But I mean, these guys have, it's absurd how much money,

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and you absolutely should be taking some off the table to do things, like, especially if you're a

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Christian, like you should be taking some off to live, you should be taking some off to, you know,

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give to charities, give to, you know, we have a number of nonprofits represented, you know,

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Christian Bitcoin nonprofits represented on this call. And so I just think it's one of these things

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where the reality of the amount of money

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and, yeah, taking some off the table to just, again,

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not even lock in some gains, but it's just like, hey,

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I have needs and can do a lot of good things right now with this money.

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I know a family on Maui that has like 90 acres

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right where Jaws Surflet is.

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And, you know, if you get land like that and he's got multiple families living there and he's got his own family living there and if you raise some cows, you probably pay zero taxes.

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And so as much as you want to hate on real estate, this is probably not the direction where our talk today is going.

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But, yeah, you would diversify at some level, you know, in case space aliens come and like crack Bitcoin or something like that, you know.

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Yeah. Again, it's about just diversifying.

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uh i mean just yeah just take it i mean just the reality is yeah i mean if i had 10 000 bitcoin i

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would be i would definitely be selling some right now because i mean i don't own a how i don't own

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a home i don't know how like i'm just kind of like in in between things and so again and then

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on top of that like there's if there's other things i mean money exists for a purpose money

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exists to be used uh it doesn't always exist to just sit there and and be potential uh this this

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limitless, you know, boundless potential of what you could do. You should be actively thinking

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about, you know, what would it, you know, what can I do with this? You know, what should I be doing?

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You know, you, you should be thinking through what it would take for you to,

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what you would want to do with the amount of purchasing power, you know, that God entrusts

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to you. You spark something in me that might relate to our other stuff too. And it's, it's,

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as a Christian, as a husband, father, everything like that. I feel like there's in some,

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parts of the Bitcoin world a kind of anxiety over like, this is the one chance in my lifetime.

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There not going to be another chance This is the one chance to get a hold of something which will give me generational wealth And what I see that I would encourage people not to have is this idea like I can never build something that great I can never

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earn any more money doing anything other than Bitcoin. If I miss this chance, that's it for me.

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I'm just going to be a wage earner as the dollar dies. And I just want to encourage people,

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buy Bitcoin and realize that if you have your life ahead of you, it's a life of

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service and productivity and building and family and all these other things.

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And to kind of strike that balance, you know, have the conviction, but your life is not,

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this is not like your one chance to do something. You know, this is a, this is a once in a lifetime,

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once in a multiple lifetime, maybe chance to catch onto something when it's at that 2% rate

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you talked about Jordan, but, um, your life does not consist of what time you got on the train.

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Yeah. I think, I think the best way, cause like on the one hand, yes, this is a once in a lifetime

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opportunity. And at the same time, there's, there's something that's more important and like,

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there's other things that are more important. And so it's the same thing of like, it's the same,

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same idea of where Jesus says, let those who, um, let those who have husbands or wives live as though

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they had no wives. It's like, there's this real sense in which we're supposed to, like, we're

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supposed to be all in and yet, you know, have an open hand. Like, both of these things are true.

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You're supposed to, you know, you're supposed to work and, you know, work under the Lord and work

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hard and then also just work with the realization that you might die tomorrow. And so there's this

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two sides of the coin that you really need in order to, you know, be living the way that God,

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wants you to live. Life is complex and it's designed to be lived in reliance upon the Lord.

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I think that's kind of what we're getting at is loving and serving your neighbor and loving and

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serving God has to happen on two time horizons. It has to happen right now and it has to happen

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with a view towards the future. That's what faithful stewardship looks like. Uh, and so,

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uh, yeah, I, I think that, yeah, this is, it's going to get, it's going to get crazier and we

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should be, you know, actively thinking about, uh, you know, what, what to do and what we're going to

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do when, when, as it does continue to get crazier. Yeah. The other, the other side of this. Okay. So,

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so Udi is basically saying, man, you know, all of these companies, all of these nations,

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they're buying Bitcoin. These things are all just going nuts. And we need to be, you should be ready,

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you should be buying Bitcoin. We have another, it's not a different perspective. I would say it's

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along the same lines. This is from John Ratliff. I believe this is Ryan, you shared this. John

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Ratliff says this, I would like to get bunk. What'd you think? I said my neighbor. He's like

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about 20 minutes for me now. So I would like to debunk the myth that retail Bitcoin investors are

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ever going to come back. I keep seeing people ask, when will retail wake up to this bull run,

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Bitcoin bull run? They're missing the point. Retail isn't coming back. It's been priced out

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at roughly $120,000 per coin. Owning a whole Bitcoin is beyond most budgets and the chance

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to scoop one up at $10 is long gone. Retail demand was always fueled by stories of tiny

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stakes turning into fortunes. That era is over. Even if Bitcoin hits a million dollars, that's

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only 8x from here. So a $1 buy nets $8. Nice, but hardly life-changing. No wonder small investors

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are chasing meme coins and alts, hoping to double in weeks instead of years. True retail adoption

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won't come from spot exchanges. It will arrive when 401ks, IRAs, and index funds allocate to

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Bitcoin. That shift is already underway. Corporations, hedge funds, and governments are

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stacking sats main street will tag along through their plan sponsors for those uh for those of us

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who got in early and held there will be more upside ahead but don't expect a flood of new

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retail buyers on coinbase anytime soon guys what do you think you agree with ratliff you think he's

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full of it what do you what are your thoughts yeah i mean it's it's kind of sad uh but there's

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yeah there's a lot of truth to it uh i've seen some high net worth retail that has kind of been

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on the sidelines watching this and has been you know has been told bitcoin is bad for

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anywhere from five to seven years since it's been on people's radar a little bit more and i've had

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i've had several individuals reach out to me to find out more like we're going to get coffee

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things like that so um high net worth retail that is actively thinking about investments and

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wrestling kind of like they're willing to put in the work because they view themselves as like

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responsible investors they're not going like they're actually starting to come on board now

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yeah um i think that's going to only increase especially as the financial advisors start

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giving their blessing um but yeah i like the smaller smaller retail which is just your average

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person it's it's really sad people are strapped i mean you can look at you know look at the credit

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card balance um with the amount of credit card debt it's like all-time high right now people are

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our cost of living is extremely expensive um inflation is still high still going up uh food's

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super expensive wages haven't kept up with inflation at all they never do so normal people

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are tapped out and like we were talking before we went on air uh those people aren't like

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those people most people like us i would say the three of us too like we weren't trained to like

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be super wise with our money when we were young and uh so sadly the people that need to be

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investing the most aren't even thinking about it they're literally just trying to survive

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let alone try to get ahead for tomorrow.

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And it's really sad.

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I mean, I've had so many conversations

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where people just, you know,

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it's not like despair, but it's just like,

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yeah, it's not even in your consciousness.

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And I've been there myself where it's like,

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okay, maybe it's paycheck to paycheck,

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but it's the idea like if my brakes go out on my car,

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that's everything.

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and I might be paying, I might pay for it on credit card for the repair. You know what I mean?

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So in that case, like, okay, maybe I have a thousand bucks, but I'm not just going to

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shove that into Bitcoin because, um, life happens. And so it's not even, um, it's kind of a, it's a

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lack of vision in one sense, but it's not even your fault. It's like living day to day, week to

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week is a whole mindset. And then if you hear people like us come in and there's levels, there's

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multiple levels higher than, you know, our age and our, and our, I, I referred once to a mutual

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friend of ours as like being in his investor arc part of his journey. Right. And I'm not in my

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investor arc. I'm still in my working arc, but if you can get there, great for you, but it just

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sounds like, uh, the teacher from, uh, peanuts, you know, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.

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Like, well, I can't, I can't invest. So good for you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Uh, I, I,

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I like the quote that Wealth Squad Chris, I followed him for a number of years on X.

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He says, make money, buy Bitcoin.

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That's a real simple way of thinking about it, that even if you're late, even if you're

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late five years from now, the idea is this is a revolution away from fiat, which is losing

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whatever they say, what you guys would probably say like 8% on a decent year, 5%, 8%, whatever

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it might be.

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that's what you're losing so even if you're late late you should not have it in a checking account

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you should not have it in a savings account you should have it in bitcoin so that's that maybe

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that's part of the that's part of it to um you know to to get through your head is this is what

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you should be saving and no matter when you get to it yeah and i would i would encourage some of

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the conversations i've had with my kids because it's all of a sudden bitcoin's at 120 000 i'm like

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okay what are my kids thinking about like their little brains are like well i can't obviously

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they're like i can't how can they get 120 000 to to buy a bitcoin and i've just encouraged them like

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look out 20 years bitcoin could be up 200x like legitimately 200x yep from here so just pick an

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amount if it's a hundred dollars like times it by 200 and and like be are you willing to sacrifice

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a short-term pleasure or like not do something or is there something you could sell like i would say

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my just just start buying a little bit and and saving it for the future and it's gonna i mean

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200x is significant yeah um and again pounds and it's like good behavior compounds we we we uh

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rightfully rag on dave ramsey quite a bit but if you combined dave ramsey with accumulating bitcoin

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yes if you accumulated like debt snowball and then put your you know like somebody needs to

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we should do this like this is what we should do is like put together put together like you know

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we shouldn't even talk about this but because i really think they're gonna get my blood pressure

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is going up right now but yeah i wrote a blog post in 2013 did you really i wrote a blog post

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explaining why i did not invest in bitcoin when it was 13 each and it was literally because of

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Dave Ramsey and his debt snowball and that you were, and how you weren't supposed to do any

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investing until all your debt was gone. And like, and then it blew up and went up to a thousand.

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And then I went, I threw, went through my first several cycles of where, oh, I've just completely

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missed it and blah, blah, blah. Uh, so all that to say, if you have a little bit of debt,

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still buy some Bitcoin because it's a positive, it's a positive behavior to like, because all of

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a sudden you're going to see the fruit of you've saved something and then it grew in value. And

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then you can add more to it even while you're still paying off your debt. I can testify that

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it's changed my behavior already because, and I'm trying to think what the term is, but people are

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talking about for a business, this is what you have to beat now. There's a term for that.

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The hurdle rate. Yeah. This is your new hurdle rate. So I'll give you an example in my life.

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I have a skid steer that I have use of and I've thought to myself, maybe I'll make some money

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using this too. And it belongs to another entity, but I've made an arrangement. And I was like,

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I'll buy a trailer.

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If I buy a trailer, put the word out there,

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I can make a good hourly, spend time with my kids.

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And I haven't bought a trailer, guys.

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I haven't bought a trailer because I'm like,

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you know, normal thinking,

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let's say I get a trailer for $10,000.

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Worst case scenario, I can sell it used for $8,000.

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Give it a paint job.

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Sell it used for $8,000 later.

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Now, the hurdle rate is, wait, wait, wait, just a second.

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$10,000 and shout out to Ryan's son's

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slash Marty Bentz opportunity cost,

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opportunity cost that shows you what everything costs in Bitcoin.

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I'm not going to do it right now.

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I'm waiting, even though I could make some income.

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So having that hurdle rate in your mind,

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especially in the next few years has changed my behavior.

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And it's, it's continuing to make me think,

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what investments am I going to make?

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And even income wise,

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what am I going to try to work on that's going to do better than if I just

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tried to plow things into Bitcoin?

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And, you know, on the topic of the Dave Ramsey, maybe I won't go into too much detail, but I personally took out a line of credit I had available a couple of days ago.

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And I made myself a spreadsheet where I'm tracking every single day how much interest has accrued and every single purchase.

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And it's automatically calculating for me based on the Bitcoin price, how it compares to the interest that I'm accruing on that specific loan.

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Yep. So, uh, you know, that's, that's, I'll share it if anybody wants it, but it was something for

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myself to go. I know every single day I'm, it's like $17 or something like that, that I'm paying

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an interest. That's a lot. I'm going to do it for at least three months and see what the results are.

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But, um, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm conscious. I'm aware I'm sober minded that I'm going to do it for

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three months and that's like a $1,500 bet. Yeah. You know, just interest. And I'm going to assess

415
00:31:26,103 --> 00:31:32,243
after that, I'm pretty sure I'll be, uh, happy. Yeah. Again, like that, that's the type of thing

416
00:31:32,243 --> 00:31:37,423
where again, what the kind of what, what Dave Ramsey is basically saying is like Dave Ramsey's

417
00:31:37,423 --> 00:31:43,563
like all my listeners are drug addicts. Right. And so it's like, so if you're a drug addict,

418
00:31:43,923 --> 00:31:48,303
you shouldn't be like, you shouldn't take, you shouldn't be using any nicotine. You shouldn't

419
00:31:48,303 --> 00:31:52,703
be using any kind of, or if like, if you're morbidly obese, you shouldn't be consuming

420
00:31:52,703 --> 00:31:57,823
any donuts. Like this is like, it's just setting you on a path. And yet for like the average person,

421
00:31:57,883 --> 00:32:02,043
like, okay, well, what if I'm not morbidly obese? What if I'm not a drug addict? Like, can I,

422
00:32:02,043 --> 00:32:06,383
can I drink a, you know, can I drink a beer or can I, you know, have like a glass of wine? It's

423
00:32:06,383 --> 00:32:10,803
like, yeah, you like, I mean, that's like, those are, those are defensible things. Like the question

424
00:32:10,803 --> 00:32:15,403
is, do you, do you have self-control? And so if you have self-control, like you have to answer it,

425
00:32:15,403 --> 00:32:19,943
you have to know yourself. If you have self-control, then like, okay, then yeah, some of these,

426
00:32:19,943 --> 00:32:23,583
things, especially, again, this is, I'm speaking at both sides of my mouth a little bit because

427
00:32:23,583 --> 00:32:28,023
like the scriptures, again, are super clear. Oh, no man, anything. Like that, that is,

428
00:32:28,203 --> 00:32:34,243
that is a Bible verse. That is a, a one that we have love. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no man, anything

429
00:32:34,243 --> 00:32:38,203
except to love one another. Exactly. And, and yet, like, again, this is something that we can,

430
00:32:38,203 --> 00:32:43,183
we can talk about is again, even like biblically speaking, there are, there are,

431
00:32:43,183 --> 00:32:47,023
and we could go through a tons of examples at some point. We just need to go over this one

432
00:32:47,023 --> 00:32:53,323
piece that I wrote, but just basically, you know, you have something like you look at,

433
00:32:54,223 --> 00:32:57,603
I mean, you just have things where the scriptures will say something, then it'll say the exact

434
00:32:57,603 --> 00:33:02,483
opposite in other, or it'll give you an example of somebody living the exact opposite of what this,

435
00:33:02,483 --> 00:33:07,383
you know, what this council says in one part of the Bible. And the reality is like context matters,

436
00:33:07,383 --> 00:33:13,903
like it really does matter. And so I'm super sympathetic to, you know, to people. And I think

437
00:33:13,903 --> 00:33:20,063
there's, I think there's wisdom in, in like looking at strategically, uh, you know, wise is

438
00:33:20,063 --> 00:33:24,923
serpents action that basically looks at and understands the situation that we're in, that

439
00:33:24,923 --> 00:33:32,763
literally all money is debt. Like all of our money is debt. And so trying to basically, and, and

440
00:33:32,763 --> 00:33:36,763
understand that because it's debt, you're just a hundred percent being stolen from at all times.

441
00:33:36,763 --> 00:33:41,683
Like any debt that's taken out is stealing purchasing power. And so like, I do think there

442
00:33:41,683 --> 00:33:47,783
is like strategic, you know, there's a strategic warrant to, to be looking and thinking about that

443
00:33:47,783 --> 00:33:51,943
and, and just, you know, taking that, taking that seriously of just like, Hey, you know,

444
00:33:51,943 --> 00:33:55,503
this is one of these things where, you know, I should, should I, and as at least asking the

445
00:33:55,503 --> 00:34:01,483
question, like, you know, should I be, it doesn't make, is it wise for me to strategically take out

446
00:34:01,483 --> 00:34:08,143
some debt either from, you know, uh, yeah. And it just depends on what, what can you, whether it's

447
00:34:08,143 --> 00:34:11,543
a, what's it, what's it called? Not a mortgage, but like where you take money out of your

448
00:34:11,543 --> 00:34:17,623
home equity, like something like that. Like there's, there's strategic advantage, uh, taking,

449
00:34:17,763 --> 00:34:22,183
you know, looking at the, the time that we're in looking at, you know, where Bitcoin's at.

450
00:34:22,263 --> 00:34:26,343
And then, but again, not being, the other important thing is not being crazy, like being,

451
00:34:26,343 --> 00:34:31,203
you know, taking, not taking the point, not having debt to the point where, oh, you're going to get

452
00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:36,623
wrecked if Bitcoin doesn't absolutely act like a home run for the next two years or whatever.

453
00:34:36,623 --> 00:34:42,763
and so again I think that's at least a conversation that you know people should should be having be

454
00:34:42,763 --> 00:34:48,423
thinking about while still asking yourself and looking at your own situation and being honest

455
00:34:48,423 --> 00:34:53,703
with yourself because I think a lot of people it's like the people who need to hear one thing

456
00:34:53,703 --> 00:34:59,163
want to hear the other thing yeah they want they're like oh I want to you know do this

457
00:34:59,163 --> 00:35:04,283
that's why that's why the Lord is the best teacher in the universe and beyond actually and

458
00:35:04,283 --> 00:35:06,543
his way of teaching is

459
00:35:06,543 --> 00:35:08,203
mimicked by

460
00:35:08,203 --> 00:35:10,143
Yoda and any other

461
00:35:10,143 --> 00:35:12,663
Bruce Lee and any other great teacher.

462
00:35:12,783 --> 00:35:14,723
You have him say, on the one hand, there's

463
00:35:14,723 --> 00:35:16,603
this. On the other hand,

464
00:35:16,643 --> 00:35:18,603
there's this. And you're supposed to work

465
00:35:18,603 --> 00:35:20,583
it out. And I would challenge anyone who

466
00:35:20,583 --> 00:35:22,743
thinks the Bible is full of contradictions that

467
00:35:22,743 --> 00:35:24,663
about 97% of what

468
00:35:24,663 --> 00:35:26,723
you think are contradictions are just this type

469
00:35:26,723 --> 00:35:28,443
of pedagogy, this type of teaching.

470
00:35:28,883 --> 00:35:30,563
A lot of times it'll be Moses, like

471
00:35:30,563 --> 00:35:31,983
one paragraph, next paragraph.

472
00:35:32,383 --> 00:35:34,163
The Bible contradicts itself. No.

473
00:35:34,283 --> 00:35:37,923
It's, uh, he's laying the field out for you to understand, you know?

474
00:35:38,063 --> 00:35:38,243
Yep.

475
00:35:38,363 --> 00:35:42,103
And, um, you don't, you don't need to say everything at all times.

476
00:35:42,363 --> 00:35:42,983
That's right.

477
00:35:43,043 --> 00:35:47,623
Like you can, you can say a true thing that is incomplete.

478
00:35:48,523 --> 00:35:51,023
Like you don't like, and I had a tweet about this the other day.

479
00:35:51,043 --> 00:35:55,303
I should have shared it, but it's basically like modern, this is, this is worthy of its

480
00:35:55,303 --> 00:35:55,843
own episodes.

481
00:35:55,843 --> 00:36:03,483
Like modern Christians, we feel like if we are not saying all of the truth at any given

482
00:36:03,483 --> 00:36:07,623
time we're not telling the truth or we're being unfaithful or something. And it's just like,

483
00:36:07,983 --> 00:36:14,323
guys, then Jesus is guilty. Like if that's the case, then Jesus is guilty because Jesus all the

484
00:36:14,323 --> 00:36:21,143
time communicates in ways that are purposefully not as clear as he could be. You know, like he

485
00:36:21,143 --> 00:36:30,143
does this a lot. And again, so much of Proverbs is it's timely wisdom and wisdom needs context.

486
00:36:30,143 --> 00:36:37,143
needs a situation in order to be applied in. And so again, there's times where it's like,

487
00:36:37,203 --> 00:36:42,043
oh, I'm in this situation. Okay, well then you need to hear this. So much of the way that Jesus

488
00:36:42,043 --> 00:36:46,723
responds to people depends on what situation they're in. Jesus looks at the rich young ruler

489
00:36:46,723 --> 00:36:52,483
and says to the rich young ruler, hey, sell everything and give to the poor. You only lack

490
00:36:52,483 --> 00:36:58,383
one thing. What must you do to be pleasing? You only lack one thing and that's to sell everything

491
00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:02,403
and give to the poor. And it says the man went away sorrowful because he was very rich. Jesus

492
00:37:02,403 --> 00:37:07,683
doesn't look at anybody else or almost anybody else and say to them, hey, in order to be, in order

493
00:37:07,683 --> 00:37:12,183
to, you know, enter into my kingdom, you have to sell everything. In fact, in fact, let me interrupt

494
00:37:12,183 --> 00:37:17,123
you there. In fact, Judas says the same thing. Yeah. Judas says that she shouldn't have broken

495
00:37:17,123 --> 00:37:21,423
the bottle of man on your feet because he should have sold it and gave all the money to the poor.

496
00:37:21,683 --> 00:37:38,546
Exactly And Jesus Jesus rebukes communist Judas Correct Tells him actually the poor you will always have with you and you can always give to them So go ahead and give to them So talk about by the way I just have to throw in I just preached this two days ago Sunday

497
00:37:39,346 --> 00:37:42,866
Jesus goes, this is Luke 12, right before the one you quoted.

498
00:37:43,906 --> 00:37:49,926
He goes, don't fear God, don't fear man, because God can both kill you and throw you into hell.

499
00:37:50,206 --> 00:37:50,406
Yeah.

500
00:37:51,546 --> 00:37:52,466
Dramatic pause.

501
00:37:52,686 --> 00:37:52,846
Yeah.

502
00:37:52,846 --> 00:37:56,026
Very next, very, very, very next paragraph.

503
00:37:57,026 --> 00:37:57,706
Don't fear.

504
00:37:58,486 --> 00:38:03,006
God cares about you much more than any other of the sparrows.

505
00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:04,126
He knows every sparrow.

506
00:38:04,226 --> 00:38:05,766
He knows every hair on your head.

507
00:38:05,966 --> 00:38:10,326
And you are of much more value to him than any of the sparrows, right?

508
00:38:10,386 --> 00:38:10,966
He sees all.

509
00:38:11,486 --> 00:38:14,986
And so imagine those are two paragraphs right next to each other.

510
00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:15,406
Fear.

511
00:38:15,586 --> 00:38:17,546
Fear God because he can throw you into hell.

512
00:38:18,386 --> 00:38:20,506
Don't be disturbed, my friends.

513
00:38:20,726 --> 00:38:22,746
God cares about you more than the sparrows.

514
00:38:22,846 --> 00:38:23,126
Yeah.

515
00:38:23,246 --> 00:38:24,726
That's the kind of teacher the Lord is.

516
00:38:25,166 --> 00:38:25,526
Exactly.

517
00:38:26,146 --> 00:38:29,546
And he's a teacher that requires you to think.

518
00:38:30,126 --> 00:38:34,226
Like he's trying to draw, like God is trying to draw out of us.

519
00:38:34,266 --> 00:38:38,766
He's trying to get us to get away from this animalistic, reflexive thinking.

520
00:38:38,886 --> 00:38:40,366
This is not how God works.

521
00:38:40,666 --> 00:38:42,406
Like he wants you.

522
00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:45,546
He doesn't just, he wants to get at who you are.

523
00:38:45,626 --> 00:38:47,406
He wants to transform who you are.

524
00:38:47,686 --> 00:38:51,546
He's not content to just manipulate you into getting a certain outcome.

525
00:38:51,546 --> 00:38:57,346
like he doesn't value just the outcomes no he values getting you in the in the process

526
00:38:57,346 --> 00:39:03,346
like this is a really important thing so can i can i riff on that when it comes to the the

527
00:39:03,346 --> 00:39:08,866
economy part you were talking about go for it so something comes to my mind you know

528
00:39:08,866 --> 00:39:14,166
steel manning the bad system to steel man the system that we have the fiat system

529
00:39:14,166 --> 00:39:19,546
i think the idea is we want to keep everyone productive we don't want money to sit we want

530
00:39:19,546 --> 00:39:23,966
to keep it liquid. So if you have money and you're wealthy, you're investing it back in a business.

531
00:39:23,966 --> 00:39:27,066
You're investing it in a bank so the bank can lend out to other people. You're investing in

532
00:39:27,066 --> 00:39:31,086
the stock market. We don't want people sitting on money. We want people working hard and keeping the

533
00:39:31,086 --> 00:39:37,886
stuff going. That's the best I can do to steel man it. But in order to affect that,

534
00:39:38,006 --> 00:39:42,506
in order to motivate you, what they're doing is stealing your money all the time. So you have to

535
00:39:42,506 --> 00:39:47,646
keep making more, more, more, more, and more and increasing so-called GDP. And the idea,

536
00:39:47,646 --> 00:39:56,146
So that's the steel man for our system that ultimately is not godly, ultimately is taking what you've earned and redistributing it like Judas.

537
00:39:57,086 --> 00:40:01,386
And by the way, about Judas, it said he didn't say this because he cared about the poor.

538
00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:02,426
This is what John records.

539
00:40:02,766 --> 00:40:08,186
He did so because he had his hand in the money bag and he helped himself to it whenever he wanted to.

540
00:40:08,266 --> 00:40:14,266
And I can't think of anything better about modern politics than to what Judas, what John said about Judas.

541
00:40:14,266 --> 00:40:19,786
having charge of the money bag, he helped himself to it whenever he wanted to. So he wanted to

542
00:40:19,786 --> 00:40:24,626
redistribute it the way that he wanted. So now, sorry, I got back to the Bible a little, got back

543
00:40:24,626 --> 00:40:31,326
to Judas, but that's the, that's the steel man for it. But, um, the reality is on a positive note,

544
00:40:31,326 --> 00:40:36,166
I think, and you guys could push on me if you want. Um, imagine you're a VC, you know, like

545
00:40:36,166 --> 00:40:42,846
venture capital in San Francisco, most of them fail. They already know that they know that you're

546
00:40:42,846 --> 00:40:49,366
billionaire there, you're Peter Thiel or Naval or one of these guys. And, um, you know that it's

547
00:40:49,366 --> 00:40:54,766
like, maybe it's 90%. I don't know the number. Someone knows. And you take, you take a round

548
00:40:54,766 --> 00:41:01,286
of funding or you take a loan and the business fails. You don't owe a million dollars for seven

549
00:41:01,286 --> 00:41:05,486
generations, all your kids and your grandkids and stuff, but that's how it was in the ancient world.

550
00:41:05,486 --> 00:41:10,466
You know? And I remember, I know a Korean family locally who talked about moving here from,

551
00:41:10,466 --> 00:41:13,966
from Korea. And it's like, that's still how it is in some other countries. You don't dip debt

552
00:41:13,966 --> 00:41:18,766
because that debt doesn't go away. It goes to your kids. So some of the things, some of the

553
00:41:18,766 --> 00:41:24,886
things in the Bible, um, uh, and by the way, in, in, at least in Israel, there was a time to recover

554
00:41:24,886 --> 00:41:30,546
what you lost, right? It was a once every 49 years. And that has informed how the United States was

555
00:41:30,546 --> 00:41:38,006
set up. So our country is based on, uh, rewarding risk takers and builders. And so if we understand

556
00:41:38,006 --> 00:41:44,366
that it depends on your debt. Is your debt a partnership of some kind? Is your bank saying,

557
00:41:44,526 --> 00:41:47,946
hey, we believe you're going to succeed, so here's $100,000 to start a business.

558
00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:54,246
Look at the details. What is it that you've actually put on the line? Maybe it's a partnership,

559
00:41:54,546 --> 00:41:58,786
and if you fail, it's like you both failed, and you both go back home and try again later.

560
00:41:59,146 --> 00:42:04,526
Or maybe you did something that's going to hurt your generation. And that's the maturity and the

561
00:42:04,526 --> 00:42:10,146
need to say, what am I actually doing here? Is this like an Old Testament Assyrian or Egyptian

562
00:42:10,146 --> 00:42:16,526
loan that's in the old world, just going to follow you forever? Or you're going to become

563
00:42:16,526 --> 00:42:21,966
an indentured servant. Your wife's going to become a slave in someone's house. That's the

564
00:42:21,966 --> 00:42:26,626
kind of stuff that would happen back then. The founders of the USA made it so that's not how it

565
00:42:26,626 --> 00:42:33,306
is now. So we need to all keep the same truths, but shift it into the place and time that we live.

566
00:42:33,306 --> 00:42:39,146
there are still consequences today and some some people's wives do end up having to work

567
00:42:39,146 --> 00:42:44,666
yeah and someone else's and those are all again those are all realities like that's that that's

568
00:42:44,666 --> 00:42:50,326
all totally true and so again it really just comes down to you know looking at your different

569
00:42:50,326 --> 00:42:56,546
situations and like looking at um yeah i just think that people are people are too quick and

570
00:42:56,546 --> 00:43:02,726
again i think the the other big thing is was why are you doing what you're doing are you doing what

571
00:43:02,726 --> 00:43:07,926
you're doing because you're afraid. Like this is frequently the most repeated command in scripture

572
00:43:07,926 --> 00:43:14,486
hundreds of times is do not be afraid. People are warned or like, you know, just told, don't be

573
00:43:14,486 --> 00:43:20,406
afraid because again, fear makes you do stupid things. It makes you clouds your thing. Correct.

574
00:43:20,546 --> 00:43:23,906
Yes. You know, like they're, they're afraid of, I'm afraid that this is going to happen to me.

575
00:43:23,906 --> 00:43:29,986
I'm afraid that this is going to happen to my, my family, or I'm afraid that. And so because I was

576
00:43:29,986 --> 00:43:34,826
afraid I did something that I wouldn't do under normal circumstances. And so I stole or I did,

577
00:43:34,886 --> 00:43:40,786
you know, whatever I took on too much debt or whatever it is. I think that, you know, you want

578
00:43:40,786 --> 00:43:44,626
to, you want to be motivated. And so the question is, if it's not fear, well, then what is the thing

579
00:43:44,626 --> 00:43:48,746
that ought to motivate you? And the scriptures have an answer for that, which is it, there's two

580
00:43:48,746 --> 00:43:52,646
things that ought to motivate you positively. It's love for God and love for your neighbor.

581
00:43:53,346 --> 00:43:57,546
And so again, that you, you ought to be thinking, okay, does this thing that I'm thinking about

582
00:43:57,546 --> 00:44:02,206
doing, does it honor the Lord? Does it, does it love and serve my neighbor or does it prey upon

583
00:44:02,206 --> 00:44:08,106
my neighbor? Uh, and so, and does it, and some of your neighbor can be your wife. It could be your

584
00:44:08,106 --> 00:44:12,166
kids. It could be, you know, your grandkids. It could be, uh, you know, there's other people around

585
00:44:12,166 --> 00:44:16,566
you. And, and so again, like there, there can be some complexity there. Like that, that's a reality.

586
00:44:16,566 --> 00:44:22,466
And so like there, there, there is room within God's economy. God has room for our consciences.

587
00:44:22,886 --> 00:44:26,306
You know, like there's the number of passages where it talks about, you know, it says talking

588
00:44:26,306 --> 00:44:30,866
about parenting. It says, we all had fathers who disciplined us as it seemed good to them.

589
00:44:32,526 --> 00:44:39,166
He's basically saying, listen, we all had parents who were just, and even if this isn't true in the

590
00:44:39,166 --> 00:44:44,826
most complete sense, they were doing their best. And some of them, within these parents who were

591
00:44:44,826 --> 00:44:48,886
doing their best, there might be some of those parents who did completely opposite things.

592
00:44:49,326 --> 00:44:53,746
They were motivated by love for you and a love for the Lord and a desire to honor him and parent

593
00:44:53,746 --> 00:44:57,686
you well. And they might've done things that were completely the opposite, polar opposite.

594
00:44:58,506 --> 00:45:03,286
And yet, like, listen, that's, that's what it's like to live in the world. There's another verse

595
00:45:03,286 --> 00:45:07,786
where it talks about, you know, do your best to, to try to discern what the will of the Lord is.

596
00:45:08,486 --> 00:45:12,786
That means that you're not always going to, like what God's will is, is not always going to be

597
00:45:12,786 --> 00:45:18,526
clear. It's not always, it could be, it could not always be clear because of some lack of

598
00:45:18,526 --> 00:45:23,166
information on your part. It could be for, because of some weakness on your part. It could be for a

599
00:45:23,166 --> 00:45:27,426
hundred different reasons. And so, yeah, like we, this is what we want to do. We want to surrender

600
00:45:27,426 --> 00:45:31,386
these things. We want to bring them to the Lord and just ask him like, Lord, you know, please help

601
00:45:31,386 --> 00:45:35,266
me to figure out what to do. Please, you know, bring to mind places in your, in your, in your

602
00:45:35,266 --> 00:45:39,666
word. Help me to look online. If you're sitting there, you know, you're looking like we have tons

603
00:45:39,666 --> 00:45:43,326
of resources available to us in terms of, you know, what does the scripture say about these

604
00:45:43,326 --> 00:45:46,586
kinds of things? And so I think all of these are, you know, there's wisdom in all of these places.

605
00:45:47,746 --> 00:45:52,746
I had a conversation like a couple of days ago with someone, another Christian about this. And

606
00:45:52,746 --> 00:46:05,206
And I made the point, I don't think the Lord really wants us to know his eternal will almost ever, meaning for our life, not his eternal will in Christ and stuff.

607
00:46:06,266 --> 00:46:12,046
And here's the paradigm I think would be helpful is what is the ultimate eternal goal?

608
00:46:12,546 --> 00:46:16,346
And the eternal goal for us is that we're going to be like Christ himself.

609
00:46:17,206 --> 00:46:21,646
And so the idea that I want to hear a message, and that's not what you said, Jordan.

610
00:46:21,706 --> 00:46:22,606
I'm not putting that in your mouth.

611
00:46:22,606 --> 00:46:25,126
I want to hear a message from God.

612
00:46:25,226 --> 00:46:26,426
I want to have direction from God.

613
00:46:26,506 --> 00:46:27,586
I want to have specific.

614
00:46:28,486 --> 00:46:29,166
Do I go left?

615
00:46:29,246 --> 00:46:29,926
Do I go right?

616
00:46:30,706 --> 00:46:32,406
I do think God sometimes does that.

617
00:46:32,546 --> 00:46:37,566
You know, in the New Testament, Paul is trying to go into Asia to preach and an angel stops

618
00:46:37,566 --> 00:46:38,426
him or something happens.

619
00:46:38,486 --> 00:46:39,726
I don't even know if it describes what happened.

620
00:46:39,786 --> 00:46:40,906
He couldn't go into Asia.

621
00:46:41,046 --> 00:46:41,206
Okay.

622
00:46:41,206 --> 00:46:43,346
Well, that wasn't the thing for that time.

623
00:46:43,706 --> 00:46:47,746
But the majority of the time it's saying we considered what would be best.

624
00:46:47,866 --> 00:46:48,626
We made a decision.

625
00:46:48,746 --> 00:46:49,326
We went here.

626
00:46:49,426 --> 00:46:50,746
These brothers wrote a letter to us.

627
00:46:50,806 --> 00:46:51,966
We decided to go visit them.

628
00:46:51,966 --> 00:46:55,046
We decided to backtrack and go the way that we came.

629
00:46:55,706 --> 00:47:01,266
And I think that in the positive paradigm for Christians today is he wants to make you more like Christ.

630
00:47:01,866 --> 00:47:07,826
And that means making godly decisions based on what's going on with you.

631
00:47:08,006 --> 00:47:11,706
To bolster my argument, I'll also say, you know, look at the parables.

632
00:47:11,886 --> 00:47:14,146
He wants you to manage well.

633
00:47:14,566 --> 00:47:20,506
He says that if you manage his resources, the talents well, then he's going to put you over cities as a governor, basically.

634
00:47:20,506 --> 00:47:23,166
They call it a judge, but it's like a mayor, governor.

635
00:47:23,726 --> 00:47:25,586
What in the world does that mean?

636
00:47:25,666 --> 00:47:26,746
That is crazy.

637
00:47:27,146 --> 00:47:29,826
That has something to do with the eternal state.

638
00:47:30,026 --> 00:47:37,426
It's not about primarily receiving messages about, do I go to the left or do I go to the right?

639
00:47:37,566 --> 00:47:43,626
It's about eliminating things that'd be unwise, unholy, foolish.

640
00:47:44,046 --> 00:47:48,206
You eliminate all those things and then you try to make a good decision with prayer and say, Lord.

641
00:47:48,206 --> 00:47:53,206
And that's very, very, very much important in my life now because I'm trying to make big changes.

642
00:47:53,606 --> 00:47:53,706
Yep.

643
00:47:54,106 --> 00:48:08,166
And I'm not, I'm praying for God to close and open doors, but ultimately I do think he wants me to try to think like his son and be like his son and not mainly look for that supernatural, you know, message per se.

644
00:48:09,306 --> 00:48:10,986
I think a woman, he, go ahead, Ryan.

645
00:48:11,046 --> 00:48:11,726
Yeah, go ahead.

646
00:48:11,726 --> 00:48:25,126
No, I was just going to say, no, and it's, and yeah, I think God in his wisdom, he knows our frame and he didn't create us to be like a single point of failure.

647
00:48:25,266 --> 00:48:30,546
I mean, ultimately we are responsible for all our decisions, but like for us men, for example, he's given us a wife.

648
00:48:30,546 --> 00:48:36,786
So like when we, when we're on the top of a fence about to make a bad decision, like our wives save us often.

649
00:48:36,946 --> 00:48:37,346
Right.

650
00:48:37,586 --> 00:48:37,746
Yep.

651
00:48:37,746 --> 00:48:39,966
And, but also sometimes even our kids.

652
00:48:40,106 --> 00:48:40,546
Yep.

653
00:48:40,546 --> 00:48:45,606
but also the elders and pastors at our churches and our friends, you know?

654
00:48:45,646 --> 00:48:48,566
And so there's like back up, back up, back up, back up.

655
00:48:48,566 --> 00:48:53,546
And like, ultimately we need to be walking in humility and yeah.

656
00:48:54,266 --> 00:48:56,206
And use the people that God's put in our life.

657
00:48:56,206 --> 00:49:00,746
Like, man, if there's like one word for anybody out there that's still wrestling

658
00:49:00,746 --> 00:49:03,406
with any of the things that we're talking about, it's just like, dude,

659
00:49:03,546 --> 00:49:07,366
stay humble, like, and be willing to learn from others.

660
00:49:07,366 --> 00:49:15,926
uh yeah like seriously like it's it's one of those things that man it's pride kills but it also man

661
00:49:15,926 --> 00:49:23,266
it also makes life so much more difficult yeah like we we miss out on so much of god's blessing

662
00:49:23,266 --> 00:49:27,846
i'm not just talking financially like oh you need to humble yourself and learn about bitcoin but

663
00:49:27,846 --> 00:49:33,066
it's like it's humble yourself and learn about like all the the areas of weaknesses in our lives

664
00:49:33,066 --> 00:49:39,486
like we're so prone to not want to receive counsel and, uh, or receive words during sermons and,

665
00:49:39,486 --> 00:49:44,386
or, uh, take things personally when we're reading the scriptures. Um,

666
00:49:45,506 --> 00:49:50,326
What you just said would solve the, the, uh, debt issue too, because if you're going to do

667
00:49:50,326 --> 00:49:55,386
something significant, you know, with taking on a project or debt and you haven't shared it with

668
00:49:55,386 --> 00:50:01,426
someone who is, um, your brother, your, who, you know, would tell you what they think, you know,

669
00:50:01,426 --> 00:50:06,526
yeah can't be a guest man uh if you haven't shared that and you haven't asked about that

670
00:50:06,526 --> 00:50:10,946
and especially if you're younger or you know less um experienced in that kind of stuff then

671
00:50:10,946 --> 00:50:17,186
then you probably should uh head over to uh Dave Ramsey's education and just stick with that

672
00:50:17,186 --> 00:50:21,766
you know but if you're if you if you're going to be humble like what you said Ryan

673
00:50:21,766 --> 00:50:26,966
and you know bring bring one two three friends whatever it might be and just say I'm gonna do

674
00:50:26,966 --> 00:50:33,266
this. Guys, hit me back if you think I'm stupid. It's one of the best arguments for Bitcoin. It's

675
00:50:33,266 --> 00:50:43,226
one of the things that I'm most grateful about with Bitcoin is because right now, up until Bitcoin

676
00:50:43,226 --> 00:50:49,946
existed, and I guess you could say this to a degree about gold, but you've got people who are

677
00:50:49,946 --> 00:50:55,706
like, listen, if I don't take out a humongous loan, I can't buy a house. If I don't take on

678
00:50:55,706 --> 00:51:00,846
a lot of debt. I can't go to college. And so, and I won't be able to have this thing in the future.

679
00:51:01,566 --> 00:51:08,426
And, and there's, there actually is a truthfulness to that, to a degree. And I think to deny that it

680
00:51:08,426 --> 00:51:12,946
exists altogether is just not, it's just, you're fooling yourself. Like, so the fact that a, that

681
00:51:12,946 --> 00:51:21,066
a culture or a nation or whatever embraces and like institutionalizes something that God tells

682
00:51:21,066 --> 00:51:26,826
you not to, like you, you live in this upside down world where you actually are suffering

683
00:51:26,826 --> 00:51:29,146
if you don't, if you don't do that.

684
00:51:29,226 --> 00:51:35,126
And so the really cool thing about Bitcoin is you're buying Bitcoin and you're, you're,

685
00:51:35,206 --> 00:51:39,506
you know, you're just taking the thing that you have and, and you just buy Bitcoin with

686
00:51:39,506 --> 00:51:39,646
it.

687
00:51:39,646 --> 00:51:41,726
And then the Bitcoin goes up in value.

688
00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:45,966
And so the Bitcoin is like giving you, like you're getting the return from the Bitcoin

689
00:51:45,966 --> 00:51:49,966
without having to take this illicit risk of, of assuming debt.

690
00:51:49,966 --> 00:51:51,426
and I think it's like,

691
00:51:51,506 --> 00:51:52,746
I just think about it all the time.

692
00:51:52,806 --> 00:51:53,306
I'm like, God,

693
00:51:53,366 --> 00:51:55,546
if the only reason you gave Bitcoin to the world

694
00:51:55,546 --> 00:51:58,046
was so that I could get a return on investment

695
00:51:58,046 --> 00:51:59,506
in a way that keeps my conscience clean,

696
00:51:59,846 --> 00:52:00,426
I'll take it.

697
00:52:00,526 --> 00:52:01,786
I'm so grateful for it

698
00:52:01,786 --> 00:52:02,986
because like I,

699
00:52:03,366 --> 00:52:04,206
that's one of the reasons,

700
00:52:04,386 --> 00:52:04,926
like I don't,

701
00:52:05,006 --> 00:52:05,926
again,

702
00:52:06,086 --> 00:52:07,626
I don't think it's wrong for,

703
00:52:07,766 --> 00:52:07,886
you know,

704
00:52:07,906 --> 00:52:08,406
there's people,

705
00:52:08,566 --> 00:52:09,646
I know tons of people

706
00:52:09,646 --> 00:52:11,166
who have mortgages through banks

707
00:52:11,166 --> 00:52:12,966
and like I don't think that,

708
00:52:13,066 --> 00:52:13,226
again,

709
00:52:13,346 --> 00:52:14,286
the Lord knows,

710
00:52:14,346 --> 00:52:15,246
like I'm not trying to worry about it,

711
00:52:15,446 --> 00:52:16,706
but like I would just,

712
00:52:16,806 --> 00:52:18,106
I don't want to go into debt.

713
00:52:18,946 --> 00:52:19,806
Like I would just,

714
00:52:19,806 --> 00:52:24,526
I would just rather not have to do it. And, and like with Bitcoin, it's a way that you,

715
00:52:24,726 --> 00:52:28,106
you know, it's a way that you can do it. At least, at least going that through like a traditional

716
00:52:28,106 --> 00:52:33,326
route. Like if I think taken, I would, I'd be willing to like take loans from, you know,

717
00:52:33,366 --> 00:52:38,626
family or something like that. Because again, this is a, this is a God ordained entity. This

718
00:52:38,626 --> 00:52:42,266
is a God ordained thing where, you know, God has ordained, like a godly man leaves an inheritance

719
00:52:42,266 --> 00:52:45,986
to his children's children. And part of that inheritance can be given before he's dead in

720
00:52:45,986 --> 00:52:50,386
the form of a loan or in the form of whatever. Like, I think there's a God has ordained ways

721
00:52:50,386 --> 00:52:55,006
for these things to happen. And, and again, I, I just thank God for Bitcoin that, you know,

722
00:52:55,086 --> 00:53:00,386
Bitcoin is one of these things that allows you to get some of the benefits that God has intended,

723
00:53:00,386 --> 00:53:05,626
uh, the, you know, intended the world to operate under, uh, which is scarce money is this thing

724
00:53:05,626 --> 00:53:09,706
that God has ordained, uh, without having, so you can get, you can just, we're proving the

725
00:53:09,706 --> 00:53:13,746
truthfulness and the reliability of things that God has said. I just love that. Give them, give

726
00:53:13,746 --> 00:53:21,646
me that all day long. I'm super grateful for it. Dude, it's, amen. Thank God for Bitcoin. Like,

727
00:53:21,646 --> 00:53:28,266
it's, uh, the, the system that our culture and our country has created is like a sleazy,

728
00:53:28,646 --> 00:53:36,026
slimy carnival of games of like, and you're, and you're just like, dude, that, like, I just

729
00:53:36,026 --> 00:53:42,146
remember growing up and I was like, uh, what was the purpose of education? None of my peers knew,

730
00:53:42,146 --> 00:53:48,766
like no like we didn't know what the purpose of education was except for it was for to get into a

731
00:53:48,766 --> 00:53:52,826
good college like why do you get good so you can get into a good college why do you get into a good

732
00:53:52,826 --> 00:53:59,646
college oh because you can get a good job and it's just like it just felt so off and like it's like

733
00:53:59,646 --> 00:54:07,106
really like that that's it and nobody even knew why and uh anyways and then you're like and then

734
00:54:07,106 --> 00:54:13,706
And at the time, like, I knew like a hundredth of what I know now of like why everything was broken.

735
00:54:15,046 --> 00:54:16,706
It's just, it's absolutely insane.

736
00:54:17,026 --> 00:54:23,546
And I remember, I think it was like 2012, feeling so, so like overwhelmed.

737
00:54:23,546 --> 00:54:29,426
And like, it was like despondent because I really started, my eyes had started, thanks to Ron Paul,

738
00:54:29,526 --> 00:54:36,206
my eyes had been opened to how broken our government was, our money was, like the military industrial complex.

739
00:54:36,206 --> 00:54:40,926
You're like, dude, these systems are so massive and we're still suffering under them today.

740
00:54:41,666 --> 00:54:48,726
But there was no way to like, in a sense, there was, you could rebel and opt out, but it was like really, really difficult.

741
00:54:49,086 --> 00:54:53,126
Like you had to, it was every person for themselves to like create, you know.

742
00:54:53,326 --> 00:54:53,466
Yeah.

743
00:54:53,946 --> 00:54:55,026
And like, you know what I mean?

744
00:54:55,106 --> 00:54:55,406
Create.

745
00:54:55,606 --> 00:54:55,866
Yeah.

746
00:54:55,926 --> 00:54:58,286
Like you can, you can get, I mean, there was gold.

747
00:54:58,366 --> 00:55:00,986
Like I'm sure we've got maybe one gold bug listening.

748
00:55:01,066 --> 00:55:05,386
I'm like, yeah, you did have gold and like gold still gives you like inflation adjusted returns.

749
00:55:05,386 --> 00:55:09,226
It just, it takes years for these gap ups to happen, but they do, you know, they do happen.

750
00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:11,346
So like, again, it's not like you had no recourse.

751
00:55:11,446 --> 00:55:15,686
And in fact, like that's part of the way that Gary North, I found out, funded his entire

752
00:55:15,686 --> 00:55:21,366
thing was he started buying gold and then like he was buying it early seventies or something

753
00:55:21,366 --> 00:55:27,326
and just made an absolute ton of money to the, to the effect that he was able just to

754
00:55:27,326 --> 00:55:29,106
spend his life writing all these books.

755
00:55:29,186 --> 00:55:34,026
He didn't ever, at least I don't know about ever, but I think for most of his, the latter

756
00:55:34,026 --> 00:55:38,666
years of his life, he didn't have to work a normal job because he had invested in gold and gold has

757
00:55:38,666 --> 00:55:44,266
gapped up and performed. So the idea was, so like, we're actually like, we're, I mean, in terms of

758
00:55:44,266 --> 00:55:48,846
like, if you, if you are buying Bitcoin and you're Bitcoin, you have a decent amount of Bitcoin,

759
00:55:49,006 --> 00:55:53,026
like it's something that could potentially, you know, free you up down the road to be able to do

760
00:55:53,026 --> 00:55:59,426
things and serve, you know, people and communicate some of these, these ideas, you know, to people

761
00:55:59,426 --> 00:56:04,426
around you. So, man, there's so much more we could say on that front and hopefully will at some point.

762
00:56:05,146 --> 00:56:22,108
I do want to move into let see here who we got Okay So as we sit here and talk about hey listen thank God for Bitcoin We have plenty of people who you know what they can say thank God for Bitcoin They still don get Bitcoin They don understand the value proposition

763
00:56:22,328 --> 00:56:25,029
And so they're still operating in the world as if Bitcoin didn't exist.

764
00:56:25,348 --> 00:56:26,848
And that is not a fun thing to do.

765
00:56:27,229 --> 00:56:35,128
So one of the tweets we have now, I will say this video does have a couple of inappropriate words.

766
00:56:35,128 --> 00:56:43,749
so if you have kids in the room I just want to give you this five seconds four three two one to

767
00:56:43,749 --> 00:56:47,689
turn this off you know just so your little kids don't hear it if you're hearing this in the podcast

768
00:56:47,689 --> 00:56:53,789
we have a fantastic friend of mine named George thank you George who is going to be editing out

769
00:56:53,789 --> 00:56:58,189
these words so that you you if you're listening to this after the fact you won't even know what

770
00:56:58,189 --> 00:57:05,529
I'm talking about. So let's go ahead and play this and then we will hear what this millennial

771
00:57:05,529 --> 00:57:10,029
has to say about the situation that she finds herself in. And I say this as a fellow millennial.

772
00:57:10,148 --> 00:57:16,128
Here we go. Extremely high. So let me get this straight. There is an employment crisis,

773
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:23,029
a housing crisis, cost of living crisis, brink of war, a population crisis because no one's

774
00:57:23,029 --> 00:57:28,628
having kids anymore. I wonder why. And yet we need to stop eating avocados and work a little bit

775
00:57:28,628 --> 00:57:34,669
harder. I don't know anyone my age at this point isn't exploring some kind of side hustle or

776
00:57:34,669 --> 00:57:38,988
investments. If you don't have an additional stream of income or investments and wealth

777
00:57:38,988 --> 00:57:43,249
occurring somewhere, it is not possible anymore to even participate in society in the way that

778
00:57:43,249 --> 00:57:48,269
we used to. Obviously, no one's having kids. No one can afford anything. Now in the UK,

779
00:57:48,269 --> 00:57:58,088
once you start earning over 125,000 pounds a year, you make 29 pence. 29 pence on every pound

780
00:57:58,088 --> 00:58:05,789
you make after that point. Less than one third on top of that you keep. And that's not including

781
00:58:05,789 --> 00:58:10,468
costs and bills. That's just tax. You know, there's this whole thing of the Henry's, the high

782
00:58:10,468 --> 00:58:16,569
earners, not rich yet groups of people, people that live in cities and are making like extremely

783
00:58:16,569 --> 00:58:21,049
high salaries and in theory making a lot of money but basically have none because of how expensive

784
00:58:21,049 --> 00:58:24,928
it is to live in the cities they're the only places you can get those kinds of salaries meanwhile

785
00:58:24,928 --> 00:58:29,508
the billionaires are taking one pound one dollar salary so that they don't have to pay income tax

786
00:58:29,508 --> 00:58:33,408
borrowing against the assets they already own because they bought up all the houses in this

787
00:58:33,408 --> 00:58:38,008
country so we can't have them and then just being like you guys need to work harder what they're

788
00:58:38,008 --> 00:58:42,049
also taking our jobs and giving them over to ai that is not smarter than a human yet

789
00:58:42,049 --> 00:58:45,128
what is this generation supposed to do?

790
00:58:45,508 --> 00:58:48,628
Like, I'm asking seriously,

791
00:58:48,948 --> 00:58:50,568
what are we supposed to do?

792
00:58:50,729 --> 00:58:52,588
Plus I can figure out 50 million different ways

793
00:58:52,588 --> 00:58:53,549
to have side hustles.

794
00:58:53,648 --> 00:58:55,608
There is no way to do this anymore.

795
00:58:55,908 --> 00:58:57,549
Plus the fact that the UK especially

796
00:58:57,549 --> 00:59:00,588
is wanting to tax us to the eyeballs on everything.

797
00:59:00,868 --> 00:59:03,108
You can't even sell stuff online anymore.

798
00:59:03,108 --> 00:59:05,829
Over a thousand pounds before you get taxed on it.

799
00:59:06,029 --> 00:59:07,608
They want access to our bank account

800
00:59:07,608 --> 00:59:10,108
so they can tax us on the interest over a certain rate.

801
00:59:10,108 --> 00:59:14,128
for opting for lower salaries because eventually the tax outweighs it

802
00:59:14,128 --> 00:59:17,468
and it's actually less lucrative to earn certain amounts of money.

803
00:59:18,468 --> 00:59:20,488
Then you wonder why no one's having children.

804
00:59:21,809 --> 00:59:23,689
I am one more person playing this on immigrants.

805
00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:25,269
I'm going to lose my fucking mind.

806
00:59:25,588 --> 00:59:29,628
Obviously enough wealth in the world because while most people are getting poorer,

807
00:59:29,809 --> 00:59:32,388
we have the largest number of billionaires we've ever had.

808
00:59:32,388 --> 00:59:40,729
my dad works with people who will spend 150 million dollars to ship their luxury car collections and

809
00:59:40,729 --> 00:59:46,008
put them on show for fun let's let's pause this and go back a little bit there i just we should

810
00:59:46,008 --> 00:59:48,568
have stopped this and then just kind of address them as they come because i forgot there's just

811
00:59:48,568 --> 00:59:53,329
a lot here so for i mean we i'm going to give you guys obviously the floor here in a second to kind

812
00:59:53,329 --> 00:59:57,829
of just what you know what would you say to this girl uh you know how would you think about this

813
00:59:57,829 --> 01:00:02,209
the first thing that i would say is just i'm super sympathetic to this situation right like

814
01:00:02,209 --> 01:00:12,249
Just super sympathetic. There's so much truth in what you're saying. The level of tax, the way that this works, how it affects the incentives.

815
01:00:12,988 --> 01:00:22,508
I mean, again, taking lesser paying jobs because you know that if you were to take this higher paying job, you're going to pay more tax and then the net is going to be that you're not making as much.

816
01:00:22,508 --> 01:00:31,809
It is so immoral and corrupt. It's not even funny. It's a deficient view of what government is. It's immoral from the word go.

817
01:00:32,209 --> 01:00:37,588
Uh, I just am super sympathetic. And so I think, I think there's, there's a real sense in which,

818
01:00:37,968 --> 01:00:43,148
yes, the problem is out there. Okay. It's out there with governments, it's out there in there,

819
01:00:43,148 --> 01:00:46,868
in there, and that's true. And we need to figure out ways to solve that and fight that.

820
01:00:46,968 --> 01:00:51,348
And that's something that actually needs to happen with real people. Like, boom, that's,

821
01:00:51,388 --> 01:00:56,908
that's a hundred percent the case. Uh, and, and again, we, we need to do this, uh, at the same

822
01:00:56,908 --> 01:01:02,689
time, like Bitcoin exists. Okay. This is another, another thing that you can do about this is you

823
01:01:02,689 --> 01:01:08,388
just start saving in Bitcoin, uh, and, you know, opting out of the system, you know, choosing to

824
01:01:08,388 --> 01:01:12,988
invest your, you know, your, your money in a different system that is outside of their control,

825
01:01:12,988 --> 01:01:17,388
uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's another thing. Uh, and then, I mean, again, this is not

826
01:01:17,388 --> 01:01:21,669
going to do thing. I think these aren't to say that these are all equal in, in terms of level

827
01:01:21,669 --> 01:01:28,029
of importance, but you know what? Those tattoos weren't cheap. Unless she's like a tattoo artist

828
01:01:28,029 --> 01:01:32,608
and she's getting these for free. Like, I do think like there does come down to a level of

829
01:01:32,608 --> 01:01:38,368
responsibility for, and like just taking an honest assessment of the expectations that we have,

830
01:01:38,428 --> 01:01:43,868
you know, for our lives. Like, I don't think, again, I'm not trying to trivialize anything

831
01:01:43,868 --> 01:01:50,148
that she's saying. I think that all of these things need to happen at the same time. And yeah,

832
01:01:50,148 --> 01:01:54,689
I just think it's one of these things where there can be multiple things true at one time.

833
01:01:55,289 --> 01:02:00,289
And then on top of this, yes, her thing where she's saying, what are we supposed to do?

834
01:02:00,348 --> 01:02:01,088
How are we supposed to do this?

835
01:02:01,128 --> 01:02:04,769
Unless we're doing multiple side hustles, unless we're doing one of these things.

836
01:02:04,888 --> 01:02:08,928
I think that especially as a Christian, this is one of these things where you can just go,

837
01:02:09,088 --> 01:02:15,108
you just take stock of the reality that you're in, where you just go, listen, Lord, you literally

838
01:02:15,108 --> 01:02:21,049
every idea that anyone has ever had that's allowed them to make any kind of money has come from you.

839
01:02:21,549 --> 01:02:26,068
And so, Lord, I'm sitting out here. I'm trying to figure out how do I operate in this world.

840
01:02:26,648 --> 01:02:31,388
Please give me an idea. Even if I'm not going to be a millionaire, please give me an idea that

841
01:02:31,388 --> 01:02:35,948
would help serve you and honor you and serve your people and I will provide for my needs.

842
01:02:36,729 --> 01:02:42,068
And then just put your hand to the plow, work hard and go do it. I do think that's another

843
01:02:42,068 --> 01:02:45,428
side of this. Like she's, she's saying, unless you're doing this as a gap, you'll then, yeah,

844
01:02:45,448 --> 01:02:51,128
you need to price in doing that. You know, while, while you're also talking, creating incredibly

845
01:02:51,128 --> 01:02:56,968
viral TikToks or whatever, you know, like this, that are, that are highlighting the, the illegitimacy

846
01:02:56,968 --> 01:03:02,888
and, and immorality of the situation that you're in, you should also go out and be putting your

847
01:03:02,888 --> 01:03:07,068
hand to the plow and working hard and doing these things. Because again, the Lord honors that he,

848
01:03:07,068 --> 01:03:16,368
does honor working hard. And so I think there's a lot to be said here and a lot that we're not in

849
01:03:16,368 --> 01:03:24,388
a situation where there is no hope. With the internet, with cell phones, we have more access

850
01:03:24,388 --> 01:03:33,428
and ability to make money than people have ever had in a very real sense. And it is a matter of

851
01:03:33,428 --> 01:03:40,309
just figuring it out and like working hard and, and again, confessing these problems that you're

852
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:44,568
having to people who are in your circle, like other people, again, she's got a dad who has a

853
01:03:44,568 --> 01:03:48,388
friend who's moving however many millions, hundreds of millions of dollars for his car collection.

854
01:03:48,689 --> 01:03:52,588
It's like, okay, well, what if we go and talk to him and just basically say, Hey,

855
01:03:52,689 --> 01:03:57,608
here's the situation I'm in. Is there any way, is there any way that I can help serve your business

856
01:03:57,608 --> 01:04:03,289
and make you money or whatever in the way that would, you know, allow me to earn this or something

857
01:04:03,289 --> 01:04:07,329
approach or like a path to earning this that would allow me to do what I need to do. Like,

858
01:04:07,428 --> 01:04:10,848
I think there's like, that's just one of these things, but I think there really are a lot of

859
01:04:10,848 --> 01:04:15,428
people out there more than we're thinking who are in a different season of their life where they

860
01:04:15,428 --> 01:04:20,729
actually are making a ton of money or they are, they have more wisdom and skills that can benefit

861
01:04:20,729 --> 01:04:25,868
those, those of us who maybe are in a different season. I think there, there is a lot of paths

862
01:04:25,868 --> 01:04:32,769
forward. And I get feeling, you know, blackpilled and, you know, hopeless. I, again, I get there

863
01:04:32,769 --> 01:04:38,709
momentarily all the time, but at the same time, I think that, you know, there is a lot of,

864
01:04:38,888 --> 01:04:43,548
there's a lot of, there is hope. First of all, God exists. There's also hope in, I mean,

865
01:04:43,548 --> 01:04:51,548
Bitcoin exists. There's also hope in God made you to be a person to go out and exercise dominion

866
01:04:51,548 --> 01:04:56,428
over the world and to like use these skills and abilities and strengths and all these things he's

867
01:04:56,428 --> 01:05:02,669
given us he's done these things like we're not to be afraid of the world like this is not why god

868
01:05:02,669 --> 01:05:07,529
created us and how he designed us to operate so uh i would i would just want to encourage this girl

869
01:05:07,529 --> 01:05:18,608
too yeah and i'd also add that god didn't create this lady to bear this burden on her own oh what

870
01:05:18,608 --> 01:05:19,309
What do you mean, Ryan?

871
01:05:21,249 --> 01:05:27,608
I mean, so first of all, I mean, it should be her father should be bearing the majority of it.

872
01:05:27,709 --> 01:05:29,689
And at the very least.

873
01:05:30,108 --> 01:05:32,968
And then, I mean, she looks old enough to probably be married.

874
01:05:33,329 --> 01:05:33,669
She's 30.

875
01:05:34,229 --> 01:05:34,709
Yeah.

876
01:05:35,048 --> 01:05:35,329
Okay.

877
01:05:35,628 --> 01:05:39,548
So, yeah, I would just say her husband should be bearing that burden.

878
01:05:40,408 --> 01:05:40,588
Yeah.

879
01:05:40,749 --> 01:05:43,209
I mean, the world's a super tough place.

880
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:44,229
It's very broken.

881
01:05:45,709 --> 01:05:47,669
Yeah, I completely agree with everything you're saying.

882
01:05:48,608 --> 01:05:55,029
Um, yeah, I mean, I think we're, you know, I think we're going through a fourth turning.

883
01:05:55,169 --> 01:05:56,868
I think things are really, really broken.

884
01:05:56,868 --> 01:06:01,329
Uh, there's, I mean, I see it locally here.

885
01:06:02,209 --> 01:06:05,448
Uh, inflation is continuing to go up.

886
01:06:05,508 --> 01:06:06,488
It's outpacing wages.

887
01:06:06,948 --> 01:06:17,789
So young people, like I would say everyone under the age of 55, 60, uh, are getting more

888
01:06:17,789 --> 01:06:18,508
and more pinched.

889
01:06:18,508 --> 01:06:20,829
every day, every week that goes by.

890
01:06:20,948 --> 01:06:22,548
Life is getting more difficult.

891
01:06:24,329 --> 01:06:25,608
And the money's broken.

892
01:06:25,809 --> 01:06:28,408
So obviously, like, and most people don't understand that.

893
01:06:28,729 --> 01:06:32,948
So they're just lashing out in despair.

894
01:06:34,928 --> 01:06:37,729
Yeah, so it's going to create a lot of opportunities

895
01:06:37,729 --> 01:06:40,529
for especially Bitcoiners who have spent

896
01:06:40,529 --> 01:06:44,689
an almost irrational amount of time studying these things,

897
01:06:46,068 --> 01:06:47,648
literally getting to the bottom of it.

898
01:06:47,648 --> 01:06:49,209
Like what in the world is going on?

899
01:06:49,309 --> 01:06:53,948
Why does everything seem so broken, especially when it comes to money?

900
01:06:54,849 --> 01:06:55,849
And there's answers.

901
01:06:55,849 --> 01:07:00,849
Like I think that's, but yeah.

902
01:07:01,749 --> 01:07:11,408
And also, man, the older generation, again, they're not fixing the problems.

903
01:07:11,729 --> 01:07:13,408
They're letting things fester.

904
01:07:14,068 --> 01:07:17,388
And I mean, it's literally wrecking the younger generation.

905
01:07:17,648 --> 01:07:25,968
And sadly, I mean, what's the average age of a member of the House and the Senate?

906
01:07:26,968 --> 01:07:29,468
What's the average age of these politicians in our country?

907
01:07:29,868 --> 01:07:31,108
What's the age of our president?

908
01:07:31,468 --> 01:07:32,888
What is he, 81, 82?

909
01:07:33,289 --> 01:07:33,648
Old.

910
01:07:34,508 --> 01:07:35,309
Well, what was Biden?

911
01:07:35,468 --> 01:07:35,948
Same thing.

912
01:07:36,249 --> 01:07:38,029
These guys are like on their way to death.

913
01:07:38,648 --> 01:07:39,448
Everything's broken.

914
01:07:40,008 --> 01:07:42,908
They're not fixing anything for the younger generation.

915
01:07:43,329 --> 01:07:46,868
So I just need, I know it's awkward to call out the older generation.

916
01:07:46,868 --> 01:07:52,809
Like we're talking about our parents oftentimes, but it's broken and they're not even talking about it.

917
01:07:53,468 --> 01:08:00,088
They're not talking about solutions because the way things are broken, they're not like the consequences aren't evenly distributed.

918
01:08:00,789 --> 01:08:03,088
And I don't know.

919
01:08:03,128 --> 01:08:03,928
I don't know what to say.

920
01:08:04,048 --> 01:08:12,769
Like basically what we're living through is it's going to be a shameful legacy that's like in the history books in 100 years, when they're writing about this time,

921
01:08:12,769 --> 01:08:20,769
they're going to say that the older generation did not care about these problems enough to even talk about them as we're going through them.

922
01:08:21,588 --> 01:08:25,229
Because they weren't harmed as much as the younger generation.

923
01:08:25,409 --> 01:08:28,809
And it's just like, it is the biggest, it's a huge bummer.

924
01:08:29,729 --> 01:08:32,309
Because yeah, that is the consequence.

925
01:08:32,488 --> 01:08:38,349
When life is so stinking difficult and people can barely pay their bills, they're not going to have four kids.

926
01:08:38,349 --> 01:08:45,929
Like they weren't raised, like unless they were raised in a super godly home that they were to listen to, like, look, even if you're poor, trust the Lord.

927
01:08:45,929 --> 01:08:48,929
Like that is the rarest situation because God does provide.

928
01:08:49,689 --> 01:08:54,708
But everyone else is going to, you know, get stressed out about their, you know, their budget and they're not going to have any kids.

929
01:08:54,889 --> 01:08:54,988
Yeah.

930
01:08:55,329 --> 01:08:56,048
And that's what we're seeing.

931
01:08:56,108 --> 01:08:57,488
So we're having population collapse.

932
01:08:58,909 --> 01:08:59,849
And yeah, I don't know.

933
01:09:00,189 --> 01:09:00,289
Like.

934
01:09:00,988 --> 01:09:04,028
I'll jump in there and say, I'll try to bring a little light into it.

935
01:09:04,068 --> 01:09:05,448
I was starting with a little darkness though.

936
01:09:05,448 --> 01:09:13,189
um so if you're wondering if you should blame billionaires or the government um the final

937
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:18,689
answer is the government but it's in one sense they're the same entity in a sense but um but

938
01:09:18,689 --> 01:09:24,349
it's the unholy combination of business and government that's actually the worst

939
01:09:24,349 --> 01:09:30,648
uh it's an unholy creature created by the two who have their own purposes you know separately

940
01:09:30,648 --> 01:09:54,148
So I think that the way that the Lord would look at the way society is set up is the magistrates' powers should be very specific. They should have the power of the sword, it even says in Romans 13. They essentially are someone holding a gun and they can put you in a cage or they can kill you or they can take away everything that you have. And what I just said isn't bad. That's actually what they're supposed to be able to do.

941
01:09:54,148 --> 01:10:00,088
when it comes to what's the worst that a business billionaire can do is they can be greedy and trick

942
01:10:00,088 --> 01:10:05,789
you into buying their stuff or and i'm i'm i'm keeping out like hiring a hitman to kill you or

943
01:10:05,789 --> 01:10:11,168
something like that i'm just saying in general greed i'll take greed any day over someone

944
01:10:11,168 --> 01:10:16,488
unrighteous with a gun to my head and that's and that's where the magistrate the government

945
01:10:16,488 --> 01:10:22,708
ultimately in my view bears the responsibility for this as a small business person i could easily

946
01:10:22,708 --> 01:10:30,588
pay $150,000 in payroll tax in a year and lose $50,000 that year in my business easily.

947
01:10:30,988 --> 01:10:39,309
That's not even a question. So what we're giving is not based on what we actually took home.

948
01:10:39,689 --> 01:10:46,248
It's based on they get theirs and maybe you don't get yours. And then did they use that wisely? Did

949
01:10:46,248 --> 01:10:53,548
they use that for the purposes of what God thinks a magistrate should use them for? Protecting the

950
01:10:53,548 --> 01:11:00,088
citizens, protecting the vulnerable, protecting the widow, the orphan, the alien, the legal alien.

951
01:11:01,269 --> 01:11:06,909
Are they using what they take for those purposes? The answer is largely no. They're doing pet

952
01:11:06,909 --> 01:11:13,008
projects with them. They love you and they have a wonderful plan for your life. But that's actually

953
01:11:13,008 --> 01:11:16,469
supposed to be God. God loves you and has a wonderful plan for yourself, not the magistrate.

954
01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:20,849
They're supposed to be saying, let's give you freedom to do what you're supposed to do,

955
01:11:21,508 --> 01:11:26,409
what you want to do. So having said that, that's the sort of negative, but I want to say,

956
01:11:26,708 --> 01:11:32,229
if you're wondering, yes, blame government, blame the people in power. And then secondly,

957
01:11:32,668 --> 01:11:40,648
I have seen so many success stories too. And I remember a young man who Ryan would know,

958
01:11:40,648 --> 01:11:45,088
15 years old i'm teaching him how to do carpentry we're working together

959
01:11:45,088 --> 01:11:50,108
you know i can remember one particular time we're passing up plywood sheets i'm up on the rafters

960
01:11:50,108 --> 01:11:54,309
and he's passing me plywood after plywood and finally i get to a point where i say okay

961
01:11:54,309 --> 01:12:01,008
just just hang on for a bit i gotta nail these down right look down he's picking up trash

962
01:12:01,008 --> 01:12:09,309
he wasn't waiting for me he's picking up trash he's cleaning up he's doing this thing he's

963
01:12:09,309 --> 01:12:15,289
checking with me. Do you need anything else? Okay. He's gone on. He's probably 25 or something

964
01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:21,189
like that now, maybe a little older. He's gone on to be building, he's building like luxury homes

965
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:27,568
on Kauai. Everywhere he goes, people are like, did you want work? Did you need any work? I ask

966
01:12:27,568 --> 01:12:33,948
him myself, hey, for old time's sake, you want to come help me at my house? He has unlimited work

967
01:12:33,948 --> 01:12:38,389
anywhere he goes he could land on the mainland he could go to canada he could

968
01:12:38,389 --> 01:12:45,829
anywhere he shows up he has work he has land he built his mom a house when he was like 20

969
01:12:45,829 --> 01:12:50,789
his mom lives in the house that he built he built himself a house behind that house

970
01:12:50,789 --> 01:12:58,409
and that's one of several guys i know who are like that um and and so there is also like

971
01:12:58,409 --> 01:13:05,128
with full respect to her position there's also a mindset where it's like take what you can like

972
01:13:05,128 --> 01:13:09,829
look for opportunities to serve and i'll give one example from my life me and ryan used to work

973
01:13:09,829 --> 01:13:16,269
together in a factory uh which was not easy by the way it was hot where we had full days where

974
01:13:16,269 --> 01:13:21,548
it was literally just planing redwood and cedar which is cancer you know cancer causing by the

975
01:13:21,548 --> 01:13:29,009
ways so the gas mask on we had the mask on the man i know i'm all day 90 humidity all hot you

976
01:13:29,009 --> 01:13:33,889
know taking the mask off and like wiping the face down and splashing a little cold water on it you

977
01:13:33,889 --> 01:13:40,088
know when you go to the bathroom and um i got married and praise god and on my honeymoon ryan

978
01:13:40,088 --> 01:13:51,528
calls me before the boss to say hey matt um uh we both got laid off you know 2008 so 2008 crash

979
01:13:51,528 --> 01:14:07,369
Now, even when we got laid off, our boss still tried to give me some work. I was shoveling manure, not exaggerating. I was at his ranch. He kept me on for a few more weeks, shoveling manure, taking down fencing, taking apart water catchment tanks.

980
01:14:07,369 --> 01:14:27,769
You know, eventually he decided like there wasn't more work for him. So, so, um, I walked across the street from my house, which was about a house that was worth about $1,000. And I'm not joking. It was a 20 by 20 metal house that was like being inside of a Vietnamese torture, like a heat, you know, thing when you're during the day.

981
01:14:27,769 --> 01:14:32,229
and I walk across the street because they're building and I have no building experience

982
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:36,869
except for factory and I said hey guys um I just shouted out you know hey guys I'm across the street

983
01:14:36,869 --> 01:14:41,408
just got laid off if you ever need help with anything whatever it is just holler over I'd

984
01:14:41,408 --> 01:14:46,048
love to work it looks like you guys are doing good but I'm available you know so a few weeks later

985
01:14:46,048 --> 01:14:51,969
hey you want to come over here and pick up construction trash yes I'm 28 I wasn't 20 28

986
01:14:51,969 --> 01:14:52,329
already.

987
01:14:54,608 --> 01:14:55,189
And humble enough.

988
01:14:55,389 --> 01:14:55,789
Stay humble.

989
01:14:56,068 --> 01:14:56,488
Stay humble.

990
01:14:56,668 --> 01:14:57,269
So I go over there,

991
01:14:57,389 --> 01:14:58,528
pick up the trash,

992
01:14:59,028 --> 01:14:59,889
call me over the next day,

993
01:14:59,931 --> 01:15:02,691
want to sand these beams, sand the beams.

994
01:15:03,391 --> 01:15:04,891
You know, did a couple more things like that.

995
01:15:04,951 --> 01:15:06,231
They said, hey, we're wrapping up.

996
01:15:06,291 --> 01:15:07,551
I know another guy in the neighborhood.

997
01:15:08,071 --> 01:15:09,051
10 bucks an hour.

998
01:15:09,811 --> 01:15:10,871
Okay, 10.

999
01:15:12,151 --> 01:15:14,231
10 bucks an hour, he's building a Bali house.

1000
01:15:14,731 --> 01:15:16,151
I know it's not much money.

1001
01:15:16,991 --> 01:15:18,771
I built the Bali house for 10 bucks an hour.

1002
01:15:19,911 --> 01:15:20,311
Yep.

1003
01:15:20,691 --> 01:15:23,091
Next thing you know, by the time that's coming clear,

1004
01:15:23,371 --> 01:15:24,251
someone else in the neighborhood,

1005
01:15:24,371 --> 01:15:25,411
hey, I'm building a house.

1006
01:15:26,011 --> 01:15:27,191
I think it was like 15.

1007
01:15:27,791 --> 01:15:28,191
Yep.

1008
01:15:28,391 --> 01:15:29,271
But guess what I learned?

1009
01:15:29,271 --> 01:15:31,271
50% raise, baby. Let's go.

1010
01:15:31,951 --> 01:15:39,411
50% raise. I learned how to build houses, electrical, plumbing, drywall, carpentry, roofing, photovoltaic.

1011
01:15:40,631 --> 01:15:42,871
And I got paid for it. That wasn't in school.

1012
01:15:44,251 --> 01:15:45,831
Next thing, I built my own house.

1013
01:15:46,711 --> 01:15:46,851
Yep.

1014
01:15:47,131 --> 01:15:53,851
Okay. So now that I own my own house, I had an opportunity to build a business and lose money for two or three years.

1015
01:15:53,971 --> 01:15:54,131
Yep.

1016
01:15:54,831 --> 01:15:57,251
So I could go on to where I'm at now.

1017
01:15:57,571 --> 01:15:58,491
Chew glass.

1018
01:15:58,491 --> 01:16:05,371
where i'm at now i could go on because i didn't have a mortgage i had no mortgage right yeah so

1019
01:16:05,371 --> 01:16:09,231
this is not the path this is not the path for everybody and that's not my point that's not my

1020
01:16:09,231 --> 01:16:13,691
point that that's what you have to do my point is there there's another way of looking at it which

1021
01:16:13,691 --> 01:16:20,251
is just like where can i serve where can i work yep and um i've seen it not it's not imaginary i've

1022
01:16:20,251 --> 01:16:25,331
seen it in many people's lives yep and so at the same time as someone like this this young lady is

1023
01:16:25,331 --> 01:16:31,951
having real things happen to her at the same time, guess what? No one can find good workers.

1024
01:16:32,271 --> 01:16:38,311
Yeah. Yeah. Ask any business. They can't find good workers. No one's going to pick up trash

1025
01:16:38,311 --> 01:16:43,811
when you say, just wait for me for a minute. I'm talking relatively speaking. So if you're the guy

1026
01:16:43,811 --> 01:16:47,751
that picks up trash when they told you just hang on, guess what they're going to say? They're going

1027
01:16:47,751 --> 01:16:52,231
to say to their circle of friends, hey, I know this guy. You need a pressure washing done. Okay.

1028
01:16:52,231 --> 01:16:56,511
yeah he'll help you hey guess what there was money in the house he didn't steal the money

1029
01:16:56,511 --> 01:17:01,351
you know um he hadn't he had opportunity he didn't do that he was honest he showed up he

1030
01:17:01,351 --> 01:17:06,391
wasn't drunk he wasn't high um he had his shoes on you know um now you've already now you're

1031
01:17:06,391 --> 01:17:11,231
already in the five percent yeah you know i mean the great dude the crazy i mean yeah it's like

1032
01:17:11,231 --> 01:17:14,391
it's like this can these things can be so straightforward when you're talking about other

1033
01:17:14,391 --> 01:17:18,571
people and then like not straightforward you're talking to yourself so like that's like i'm like

1034
01:17:18,571 --> 01:17:23,831
I need to hear this too. But like, I just think about the, these guys who literally just take a

1035
01:17:23,831 --> 01:17:28,611
lawnmower and go mow the worst lawn and they film themselves doing it. And then they just make,

1036
01:17:28,751 --> 01:17:33,111
they, I mean, these things get hundreds of thousands of like, it is staggering. The amount

1037
01:17:33,111 --> 01:17:39,011
of money that you can make just by just filming yourself doing menial labor. Like that, that's how

1038
01:17:39,011 --> 01:17:44,771
absurd the situation that we're in is in, is that you could, I mean, yeah, I just think, again, that,

1039
01:17:44,771 --> 01:17:48,831
that kind of work isn't going to be for everybody. But at the same time, like the other thing is

1040
01:17:48,831 --> 01:17:52,511
like, it doesn't have to be your eternal job. I think like, that's another thing is like,

1041
01:17:52,591 --> 01:17:56,511
they're like, we get this feeling like, Oh, I have to have this job forever. And it's like,

1042
01:17:56,531 --> 01:18:00,971
you really don't, you know, like you really don't like you can, I talk to people all the time who've

1043
01:18:00,971 --> 01:18:04,091
had like, Oh, I've had six jobs. You know, I've had six different jobs. There are people who

1044
01:18:04,091 --> 01:18:11,211
obviously have careers and that, that, that works. Um, and that's important. But again,

1045
01:18:11,211 --> 01:18:15,191
that's just not everybody's story and you can you know you can make things work even though even if

1046
01:18:15,191 --> 01:18:21,171
that's not your story you know yeah if you're literally if you're faithful and you work hard

1047
01:18:21,171 --> 01:18:27,351
like you will you'll never be without work and you can always you'll always naturally get better

1048
01:18:27,351 --> 01:18:34,191
work because if you're continuing to push yourself and you're always learning new skills um and yeah

1049
01:18:34,191 --> 01:18:38,571
you'll be in demand there's character before skills because if you have anyone can learn a

1050
01:18:38,571 --> 01:18:43,131
skill. The question is, are you going to show up when you said you did? Are you going to be honest

1051
01:18:43,131 --> 01:18:47,511
about money? And are you going to, um, are you going to not, you know, and that's the problem

1052
01:18:47,511 --> 01:18:52,571
too, with looking at wealthy people or business owners as some other class, right? In that case,

1053
01:18:52,571 --> 01:18:57,671
you're already looking at them like, um, with stink eye. You show up, you show up to work and

1054
01:18:57,671 --> 01:19:03,511
you got stink eye on, you know, and, um, and you could be saying, Hey, I could move those $150

1055
01:19:03,511 --> 01:19:10,091
million worth of stuff for only a hundred million dollars. Yeah. You know, and then, um, and that's

1056
01:19:10,091 --> 01:19:15,131
a slight exaggeration, but I'm just saying, uh, if your character is there, the skills can be taught.

1057
01:19:15,411 --> 01:19:23,191
And if your reputation is there, next level. Trust and reputation. Like this is, yeah, this is one of

1058
01:19:23,191 --> 01:19:27,471
these things where we, we live in a world that values the countable, like the, the things that

1059
01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:33,151
you can, you can, I can put down on a piece of paper, like, this is what I see, you know, and,

1060
01:19:33,151 --> 01:19:39,791
and we value those things. And yet at the end of the day, so much, so much of what moves the world

1061
01:19:39,791 --> 01:19:45,991
is reputation is trust is, you know, like I'll, I'll, yeah, like I'm going to sign this contract

1062
01:19:45,991 --> 01:19:50,151
with you, you know, I'm going to sign this agreement. I'm going to do a handshake agreement

1063
01:19:50,151 --> 01:19:55,811
for this thing with you because I trust you. And, and like, this is how, this is how the world

1064
01:19:55,811 --> 01:20:00,891
actually operates at like a lot of the biggest levels, like a lot of, I mean, like the whip

1065
01:20:00,891 --> 01:20:07,811
who's in politics, like he doesn't actually have, he doesn't actually have certain levels of

1066
01:20:07,811 --> 01:20:13,131
authority over these people. And yet again, he's got a reputation. He's got other, you know,

1067
01:20:13,131 --> 01:20:16,791
because of the life he's lived because of the people that he knows, you know, because of whatever

1068
01:20:16,791 --> 01:20:20,631
it is, like you actually, you know, you can have a lot more power, even if you don't have like the

1069
01:20:20,631 --> 01:20:25,371
title or something. And so I think that, you know, like, again, like Matt, like one of the things you,

1070
01:20:25,371 --> 01:20:25,951
you know you

1071
01:20:25,951 --> 01:20:26,951
we don't have to go

1072
01:20:26,951 --> 01:20:27,731
we need to do a whole

1073
01:20:27,731 --> 01:20:28,231
another episode

1074
01:20:28,231 --> 01:20:29,131
but like you know

1075
01:20:29,131 --> 01:20:30,891
you through a whole

1076
01:20:30,891 --> 01:20:31,791
random set of circumstances

1077
01:20:31,791 --> 01:20:32,611
met this dude

1078
01:20:32,611 --> 01:20:32,951
Naval

1079
01:20:32,951 --> 01:20:46,127
and so like you become friends like you could probably talk to him and like you know what is that worth There probably guys who are literally paying gazillions of dollars to try to get access to him And yet you know you just did it through paying no money and just hanging

1080
01:20:46,127 --> 01:20:51,067
out on, on a website. And it's just like, like that, that's the reality is like God, you know,

1081
01:20:51,067 --> 01:20:56,807
as, especially as a Christian, like God, God creates a world, God, God loves to shame like

1082
01:20:56,807 --> 01:21:02,047
in, and like bring to nothing the wicked. And so where you see a situation that looks dark

1083
01:21:02,047 --> 01:21:07,367
and that looks hopeless and it looks like this is so bad there's no way out of this like if you're

1084
01:21:07,367 --> 01:21:11,827
a christian you should be like oh wait this is exactly the type of situation that god like loves

1085
01:21:11,827 --> 01:21:18,127
to loves to like you know act into and provide for us and and to do these kind of things he loves to

1086
01:21:18,127 --> 01:21:22,047
do this kind of things he's been doing it for all of human history because things have been dark for

1087
01:21:22,047 --> 01:21:27,627
all of human history basically um and so yeah so i got a naval quote i got a naval quote for you

1088
01:21:27,627 --> 01:21:28,367
Let's go.

1089
01:21:28,587 --> 01:21:34,187
He told me, and I told my kids this, Naval said about me, you have a rich life.

1090
01:21:35,307 --> 01:21:35,947
Let's go.

1091
01:21:36,087 --> 01:21:36,327
You know?

1092
01:21:36,687 --> 01:21:36,847
Yeah.

1093
01:21:36,947 --> 01:21:46,207
And I have a side story, and this is true of Naval, and it's probably true of so many people that you think are greedy money grabbers, right?

1094
01:21:46,947 --> 01:21:55,287
My brother's in the tech industry, too, and he told me he knew somebody who's a programmer who's just like a genius, but he wasn't really recognized yet.

1095
01:21:55,287 --> 01:21:58,727
I can't remember. I probably wouldn't even name it if I could remember what he was working on.

1096
01:21:59,047 --> 01:22:03,507
And someone told Naval, hey, you need to pay attention to this guy. This guy's awesome. He's

1097
01:22:03,507 --> 01:22:08,407
doing awesome stuff. And he wrote him a quarter million dollar check. Boop.

1098
01:22:08,927 --> 01:22:09,107
Yep.

1099
01:22:09,367 --> 01:22:12,967
Okay. Sorry, Naval, if I spoiled that, you know, everyone else is going to ask you for a quarter

1100
01:22:12,967 --> 01:22:17,347
million dollars. But the point is that happens way more than you think.

1101
01:22:17,547 --> 01:22:17,747
Yep.

1102
01:22:18,387 --> 01:22:20,507
But you know who it doesn't happen to? Stink Eye.

1103
01:22:20,827 --> 01:22:21,907
Yep. Yep.

1104
01:22:21,947 --> 01:22:23,927
You can't go into it with Stink Eye.

1105
01:22:24,027 --> 01:22:24,447
100%.

1106
01:22:24,447 --> 01:22:34,047
And so in my short time, I wouldn't call myself friends, but I'd say I did get to stay at his house and I was encouraged by him and I was on his app.

1107
01:22:34,107 --> 01:22:39,967
And I heard him not only to me, but to others offer encouragement to an artist and say, wow, you're a full stack artist.

1108
01:22:40,927 --> 01:22:45,427
That became their bio, you know, at and of all full stack artists, you know.

1109
01:22:45,767 --> 01:22:53,367
So whether it's him or anyone else out there, it's like, is there an opportunity to somehow, by the way, when I was at his house, his fridge was broken.

1110
01:22:54,447 --> 01:22:55,127
guess what I did?

1111
01:22:56,007 --> 01:22:56,607
Fixed his fridge?

1112
01:22:57,207 --> 01:22:58,027
I fixed his fridge.

1113
01:22:58,047 --> 01:22:58,347
Let's go.

1114
01:22:58,447 --> 01:22:58,567
Yeah.

1115
01:22:58,887 --> 01:22:59,007
So,

1116
01:22:59,247 --> 01:22:59,367
and,

1117
01:22:59,407 --> 01:22:59,807
and,

1118
01:22:59,887 --> 01:23:01,427
so anyway,

1119
01:23:01,587 --> 01:23:02,327
the point is like,

1120
01:23:02,367 --> 01:23:03,767
that wasn't because I thought I was going to get money.

1121
01:23:03,867 --> 01:23:04,707
That was just because like,

1122
01:23:04,747 --> 01:23:04,907
Hey,

1123
01:23:04,947 --> 01:23:07,147
I'm being hosted and this is something that,

1124
01:23:07,847 --> 01:23:08,087
you know,

1125
01:23:08,107 --> 01:23:09,227
you have skills make,

1126
01:23:09,227 --> 01:23:10,387
it makes me feel good.

1127
01:23:11,527 --> 01:23:11,587
And,

1128
01:23:11,647 --> 01:23:12,227
um,

1129
01:23:12,267 --> 01:23:16,247
skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

1130
01:23:18,287 --> 01:23:18,967
I want to,

1131
01:23:19,087 --> 01:23:20,267
I want to say one more.

1132
01:23:20,467 --> 01:23:20,627
Oh,

1133
01:23:20,667 --> 01:23:20,827
good.

1134
01:23:21,147 --> 01:23:21,347
No,

1135
01:23:21,427 --> 01:23:21,767
that's it.

1136
01:23:21,827 --> 01:23:22,087
Go ahead.

1137
01:23:23,227 --> 01:23:23,667
Um,

1138
01:23:23,667 --> 01:23:32,487
I wanted to also say there's just back to what that lady was complaining about.

1139
01:23:32,487 --> 01:23:50,147
And Javier Malay, Argentina's president, I think he just introduced a law that their people are not going to be taxed up to $63,000 of income or something like that.

1140
01:23:50,147 --> 01:24:03,447
And like something else that people need to understand is that like taxes are they should be viewed as almost wicked, especially for the young.

1141
01:24:03,507 --> 01:24:05,187
The young are trying to start out in life.

1142
01:24:05,187 --> 01:24:13,107
And when they have such an enormous amount of their income taxed, it's very, very, very hard for them to get ahead.

1143
01:24:13,207 --> 01:24:14,507
It's very hard for them to save.

1144
01:24:14,827 --> 01:24:16,667
They're at their lowest earning potential, right?

1145
01:24:16,687 --> 01:24:17,687
They're just starting out.

1146
01:24:17,687 --> 01:24:20,067
yet they're taxed really high.

1147
01:24:21,347 --> 01:24:22,867
And that's not helpful.

1148
01:24:23,067 --> 01:24:24,767
And so our money's broken,

1149
01:24:25,127 --> 01:24:27,347
but then also our tax system's broken

1150
01:24:27,347 --> 01:24:29,687
and it's broken because of incentives.

1151
01:24:29,807 --> 01:24:30,787
The incentives are broken.

1152
01:24:32,007 --> 01:24:34,707
Our government is a giant bloated beast

1153
01:24:34,707 --> 01:24:38,727
that only, like, it only keeps growing.

1154
01:24:38,727 --> 01:24:41,307
Like the budgets never drop.

1155
01:24:41,667 --> 01:24:45,447
Anytime the government budgets get threatened,

1156
01:24:45,927 --> 01:24:47,607
everyone loses their mind.

1157
01:24:47,687 --> 01:24:53,847
And sadly, dude, I don't know what's going to change.

1158
01:24:54,087 --> 01:25:00,107
Like literally Elon, like we have nationwide protests over a few government workers being let go.

1159
01:25:00,267 --> 01:25:01,447
Like I don't know what to say.

1160
01:25:01,647 --> 01:25:14,407
Like the quality of everyone's life in communities is suffering because governments aren't able to do the work that they used to do because salaries are continuing to go up, benefits, all the things like that.

1161
01:25:14,407 --> 01:25:16,807
while the services that they offer keep dropping.

1162
01:25:18,147 --> 01:25:20,827
But how many people are actually asking the question,

1163
01:25:21,067 --> 01:25:24,107
like, why do we need so much government?

1164
01:25:25,987 --> 01:25:29,747
And at the end of the day, like, it's this, like,

1165
01:25:30,687 --> 01:25:32,007
I mean, I know this sounds harsh,

1166
01:25:32,147 --> 01:25:35,107
but government largely is just an enormous parasite

1167
01:25:35,107 --> 01:25:35,927
that just sucks.

1168
01:25:36,147 --> 01:25:38,267
And it's like a leech on the system

1169
01:25:38,267 --> 01:25:40,227
that sucks the life out of everyone.

1170
01:25:40,227 --> 01:25:41,947
When they decide to do everything,

1171
01:25:41,947 --> 01:25:44,627
they fail at the things they're actually supposed to be doing.

1172
01:25:44,827 --> 01:25:45,207
Exactly.

1173
01:25:45,547 --> 01:25:45,907
Exactly.

1174
01:25:46,247 --> 01:25:48,807
Like, hey, what do we want?

1175
01:25:49,107 --> 01:25:53,947
We want to be safe, and we don't want our parks overridden with drug addicts

1176
01:25:53,947 --> 01:25:57,887
killing themselves, overdosing on drugs, and crime to go unchecked.

1177
01:25:58,347 --> 01:26:00,067
Like, we're not complicated people.

1178
01:26:00,867 --> 01:26:04,347
But even beyond, like, what we want, like, this really is, like,

1179
01:26:04,407 --> 01:26:06,167
it's a crisis of authority, right?

1180
01:26:06,427 --> 01:26:08,107
Because, like, if the question is,

1181
01:26:08,107 --> 01:26:11,287
who sets the bounds of what the government is supposed to do?

1182
01:26:11,947 --> 01:26:23,103
And if the government is just left to their own devices or even left to the devices of again of just citizens who are ignorant and who are kept ignorant through their educational systems and all kinds of stuff

1183
01:26:23,423 --> 01:26:28,123
We're not actually learning about how you could affect governmental change and a lot of these kind of things.

1184
01:26:28,603 --> 01:26:36,943
If you just go along with letting the government write their own job description, well, then, of course, you're going to get bigger government.

1185
01:26:37,323 --> 01:26:38,023
That's what you're doing.

1186
01:26:38,023 --> 01:26:51,023
And so this is where I feel like Christians are in some ways uniquely positioned to basically say, hey, like the scripture, like thus sayeth the Lord, God created the world to work a certain way.

1187
01:26:51,323 --> 01:27:02,723
And so especially in terms of you have, insofar as you have voting power, Americans, like you need to know what the scriptures say about what the role of the government is and what the role of the government is not.

1188
01:27:02,723 --> 01:27:07,023
because if you don't know, then you're not going to vote accordingly. You're not going to act

1189
01:27:07,023 --> 01:27:10,503
accordingly. You're not going to do like, there's a hundred things where it's like, dude, we're half

1190
01:27:10,503 --> 01:27:15,683
the problem. You know, it's like, we're, you know what we're, we're setting the table by what we

1191
01:27:15,683 --> 01:27:21,083
care about, by what we desire. Uh, and there's things that we just care about more than, than

1192
01:27:21,083 --> 01:27:26,183
actually, you know, honoring what the Lord has said in terms of that, whereas individuals

1193
01:27:26,183 --> 01:27:29,963
supposed to operate in the governments or how governments are supposed to operate,

1194
01:27:29,963 --> 01:27:36,763
how, you know, a whole host of different things, like your demand, like supply and demand is

1195
01:27:36,763 --> 01:27:40,243
happening in your life. You just don't demand the things that you're supposed to demand.

1196
01:27:40,963 --> 01:27:44,423
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, I want to, I think what you just said is really

1197
01:27:44,423 --> 01:27:52,023
precise there, Jordan. In a lot of sense, the culture and the government even operates on a,

1198
01:27:52,023 --> 01:27:56,323
I guess, a supply and demand, maybe that's not exactly the right way to say it.

1199
01:27:56,323 --> 01:28:00,263
Yeah. But, um, they do what they can get away with. That's the thing.

1200
01:28:00,383 --> 01:28:06,163
If the people demand that it's different, it will be. Now in history with kings and stuff,

1201
01:28:06,223 --> 01:28:09,123
what that looks like is cutting their heads off when it gets like really, really bad.

1202
01:28:10,223 --> 01:28:14,163
Hopefully, hopefully it doesn't go to that point. But if the people honestly demand that it's

1203
01:28:14,163 --> 01:28:19,163
different and, and you use the example of the whip, the whip not having a lot of quote unquote power,

1204
01:28:19,483 --> 01:28:24,143
I would throw the word in their influence. That's what Christians should be praying for

1205
01:28:24,143 --> 01:28:29,823
and desiring, not necessarily wealth, not necessarily power in the governmental sense,

1206
01:28:30,063 --> 01:28:36,003
but to be influential through ideas and the spreading of truth, you know, then some of us

1207
01:28:36,003 --> 01:28:41,503
will be, some of us will be gifted for those other things, called to those things. But I hope that

1208
01:28:41,503 --> 01:28:47,283
there's a grassroots movement, you know, in this country, and it has to do with like spreading

1209
01:28:47,283 --> 01:28:52,043
truth. And that truth ends up with people demanding that they actually have justice

1210
01:28:52,043 --> 01:28:54,623
and that the government does their job.

1211
01:28:54,843 --> 01:28:58,443
One of my first AI songs was called Pooping in the Trash Cans.

1212
01:28:58,983 --> 01:29:00,543
You can find it on my YouTube.

1213
01:29:01,303 --> 01:29:02,623
And it's a lament.

1214
01:29:02,963 --> 01:29:03,483
It's a lament.

1215
01:29:03,723 --> 01:29:04,663
My SoundCloud?

1216
01:29:05,283 --> 01:29:06,923
It's on my YouTube right now.

1217
01:29:07,183 --> 01:29:07,983
Shield the YouTube.

1218
01:29:08,203 --> 01:29:09,003
We'll allow it.

1219
01:29:09,303 --> 01:29:10,063
I'll allow it.

1220
01:29:10,243 --> 01:29:10,963
Shield the YouTube.

1221
01:29:11,083 --> 01:29:12,363
What's your YouTube channel?

1222
01:29:13,363 --> 01:29:14,203
Matt Purvis.

1223
01:29:14,323 --> 01:29:16,023
M-A-T-T-P-U-R-V-I-S.

1224
01:29:16,323 --> 01:29:18,663
You're about to go get dozens of more followers.

1225
01:29:19,043 --> 01:29:20,583
I have like seven videos.

1226
01:29:20,763 --> 01:29:21,443
Several dozen.

1227
01:29:21,443 --> 01:29:26,863
But it's about how my post office, you used to be able to go to the post office after work and hop in and get your mail.

1228
01:29:27,223 --> 01:29:28,643
And then all of a sudden it's locked up.

1229
01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:29,803
Oh, why is it locked up?

1230
01:29:30,483 --> 01:29:32,343
Because they're pooping in the trash cans.

1231
01:29:32,683 --> 01:29:32,903
Okay?

1232
01:29:33,423 --> 01:29:36,163
Now, that's what the song's about.

1233
01:29:36,543 --> 01:29:39,323
And I went on to say the sidewalks and the hedgerows.

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It rhymes and stuff.

1235
01:29:40,663 --> 01:29:48,203
But the point is, why don't we just stop them from pooping in the trash cans so that the actual citizens can go get their mail?

1236
01:29:48,823 --> 01:29:51,783
Instead, you go, well, they're pooping in the trash cans.

1237
01:29:51,843 --> 01:29:52,363
What can we do?

1238
01:29:52,543 --> 01:29:58,163
And I'm using that as a little tiny piece of the culture to say, why are they overdosing

1239
01:29:58,163 --> 01:29:59,203
on fentanyl in the street?

1240
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So now the elderly, the young children, families, they can't walk down the street anymore.

1241
01:30:03,703 --> 01:30:07,563
It wasn't supposed to be that justice is letting people do whatever they want.

1242
01:30:07,703 --> 01:30:08,883
Oh, that's a whole other.

1243
01:30:08,883 --> 01:30:13,003
It was supposed to be, justice is supposed to be making it so that we can all play together

1244
01:30:13,003 --> 01:30:16,243
well and do business together well and walk in our cities and stuff.

1245
01:30:16,243 --> 01:30:20,763
we're and so um we're gonna do a whole episode i don't know if it's gonna be on this or if i'll

1246
01:30:20,763 --> 01:30:26,123
just do it independently or something or like when you grab somebody else but just uh about how the

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01:30:26,123 --> 01:30:32,783
understanding of freedom has changed over time and it is it is fascinating because that word again

1248
01:30:32,783 --> 01:30:38,523
this is like again you look at satan in genesis 3 he's he's playing with words did god actually say

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01:30:38,523 --> 01:30:43,263
does god actually you know this is the reality is like governments play with words too they change

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the meaning of words. People changed the meaning of words to suit them.

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01:30:47,123 --> 01:30:50,603
They're not even, yeah, they're not even saying, did God actually say it? They're just like,

1252
01:30:50,823 --> 01:30:54,983
now it's, they don't even reference our constitution anymore because the constitution

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01:30:54,983 --> 01:31:02,303
was created on biblical values, completely inspired by scripture. And now it's being

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ignored and they're trying to change it. And yet, yeah.

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01:31:05,783 --> 01:31:10,263
There's Mike Schellenberger in California. He made the point about, you know,

1256
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is it really like you could say well you took this least of these God wants you to love the

1257
01:31:16,423 --> 01:31:21,723
least of these and you took this addict and you locked him in a cage and you forced him to do

1258
01:31:21,723 --> 01:31:27,303
stuff against their will and and again that's a that's a flipping of it then Schellenberger talks

1259
01:31:27,303 --> 01:31:32,303
about what if your grandma was on dementia and she's walking down the middle lane of the road

1260
01:31:32,303 --> 01:31:36,743
and she doesn't know where she is and she doesn't know how to get home and nobody even knows who she

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01:31:36,743 --> 01:31:41,803
is. She just walked out of her door and she doesn't know where she is. And someone comes and

1262
01:31:41,803 --> 01:31:46,343
says, excuse me, do you want help? Do you need help? Who are you? Where are you from? Can we

1263
01:31:46,343 --> 01:32:02,139
help you This is not safe And she says oh no it okay I going home Do you just go oh problem solved Let move on Let just let her wander down the street until she gets hit by a bus And that kind of the point Now you would say please grab my grandma Yeah Well I pick her up

1264
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:04,499
If she was on drugs, that's exactly what people would do.

1265
01:32:04,519 --> 01:32:06,299
And that's what Schellenberger is talking about.

1266
01:32:06,319 --> 01:32:07,719
He says that, and that's the same thing.

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01:32:07,819 --> 01:32:08,819
Do you love these people?

1268
01:32:09,179 --> 01:32:10,739
They're literally killing themselves.

1269
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:11,459
Okay.

1270
01:32:11,899 --> 01:32:15,319
So justice is not saying everyone else has to fear

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01:32:15,319 --> 01:32:17,639
for their lives and, you know,

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01:32:18,419 --> 01:32:19,819
be stepping over human feces

1273
01:32:19,819 --> 01:32:22,539
and not getting their mail at the post office.

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01:32:22,999 --> 01:32:26,119
Instead, love those people by helping them get better

1275
01:32:26,119 --> 01:32:29,799
and by removing, again, this is opening up a giant can of worms.

1276
01:32:30,139 --> 01:32:32,299
We should do a whole episode on that.

1277
01:32:32,459 --> 01:32:33,159
We definitely will.

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01:32:33,379 --> 01:32:37,659
We will close today by looking at somebody in a different situation

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01:32:37,659 --> 01:32:39,559
who, again, a little bit younger.

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01:32:39,759 --> 01:32:43,079
So again, not trying to trivialize the situation that the other lady was in.

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01:32:43,599 --> 01:32:46,059
She's 30, according to the post.

1282
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:48,619
This girl just graduated college, so she's probably 22.

1283
01:32:48,619 --> 01:32:56,559
too. She had this to say, Halston Isabella. We follow her on Twitter. I just graduated from USC.

1284
01:32:56,899 --> 01:32:59,819
I now have a bachelor's degree in business economics and a master's in marketing,

1285
01:32:59,819 --> 01:33:05,399
which took over 42 units of finance and economics courses. And still, none of those courses taught

1286
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:09,219
me what I learned on my own. No class explained the truth of the broken system we live in. It was

1287
01:33:09,219 --> 01:33:14,039
brushed off. I found that through late nights and early mornings studying Bitcoin, questioning fiat,

1288
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:17,899
and questioning everything I'd ever been taught about economics, realizing the financial world

1289
01:33:17,899 --> 01:33:19,039
is built on sinking sand.

1290
01:33:19,519 --> 01:33:20,699
I read Lynn Alden's book,

1291
01:33:20,879 --> 01:33:22,439
read the Bitcoin Standard,

1292
01:33:22,559 --> 01:33:23,779
Principles of Economics,

1293
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:26,599
The Big Print by Larry Lepard,

1294
01:33:27,119 --> 01:33:28,319
Jack Mahler's podcast

1295
01:33:28,319 --> 01:33:28,959
helped me put words

1296
01:33:28,959 --> 01:33:29,599
to what I was feeling,

1297
01:33:29,699 --> 01:33:30,999
rage, urgency, hope, and purpose.

1298
01:33:31,579 --> 01:33:32,599
Hearing Adam O'Brien,

1299
01:33:32,939 --> 01:33:33,739
shout to Adam,

1300
01:33:33,899 --> 01:33:34,599
friend of the program,

1301
01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:35,239
Bitcoin Well,

1302
01:33:35,659 --> 01:33:36,479
talk about Bitcoin

1303
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:37,119
as a way to protect

1304
01:33:37,119 --> 01:33:37,739
his kid's future,

1305
01:33:37,839 --> 01:33:38,299
made me realize

1306
01:33:38,299 --> 01:33:39,159
that I want that too.

1307
01:33:39,319 --> 01:33:40,159
Bitcoin gave me clarity,

1308
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:40,759
it gave me hope.

1309
01:33:41,559 --> 01:33:42,039
Choosing Bitcoin

1310
01:33:42,039 --> 01:33:42,719
isn't about wealth,

1311
01:33:42,759 --> 01:33:43,819
it's about building something real

1312
01:33:43,819 --> 01:33:44,679
for my future family.

1313
01:33:44,799 --> 01:33:45,879
It's the hardest money there is,

1314
01:33:45,879 --> 01:33:46,419
one that comes

1315
01:33:46,419 --> 01:33:47,199
with strong conviction.

1316
01:33:47,899 --> 01:33:52,659
I'm making a decision now to become someone my future kids will be proud of and grateful for.

1317
01:33:53,259 --> 01:33:55,919
A decision to reject comfort, to choose discipline over dopamine.

1318
01:33:56,339 --> 01:34:00,779
I don't want to waste my 20s watching Love Island, mindlessly scrolling TikTok or watching football each week.

1319
01:34:01,079 --> 01:34:05,639
I want to understand the truth behind financial markets and why the system is built to keep us dependent.

1320
01:34:06,159 --> 01:34:11,699
I want to see through all the noise, stack stats, build conviction, become unshakable, and tell the story of sound money.

1321
01:34:11,859 --> 01:34:15,159
I'm not like the rest of my generation, and I'm okay with that.

1322
01:34:15,159 --> 01:34:22,019
I would again heartily uh you know recommend and encourage and you know uh affirm a lot of that

1323
01:34:22,019 --> 01:34:25,499
I still and I don't think that she would necessarily reject this given other things that we

1324
01:34:25,499 --> 01:34:31,939
can learn about her uh given her sash and other things but um but yeah even all this like knowledge

1325
01:34:31,939 --> 01:34:36,219
there's a limit to the value of knowledge is all I would say like you know knowledge we want to

1326
01:34:36,219 --> 01:34:42,979
learn things and I mean just meaning comes from devoting your life to people and and like just

1327
01:34:42,979 --> 01:34:46,959
serving your community, creating a family, serving your family.

1328
01:34:47,999 --> 01:34:52,639
You know, there's even just accumulating Bitcoin, having lots of Bitcoin and having lots of,

1329
01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:55,439
you know, things like there's a limit to the value of these things.

1330
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,379
There's a limit to the happiness and satisfaction and joy that these things will give.

1331
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:09,239
But they are a good part of a larger whole that will give your life meaning and, again,

1332
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:14,599
result in you living a life that that serves those around you and is a net gain on society rather

1333
01:35:14,599 --> 01:35:21,559
than a drain yeah let let that take away you know earlier i talked about the anxiety that i think

1334
01:35:21,559 --> 01:35:27,639
some bitcoiners have let let that kind of take away some of that anxiety you have a life ahead

1335
01:35:27,639 --> 01:35:34,499
of you of service to fellow man and god yep and you can you can earn and you can save and you can

1336
01:35:34,499 --> 01:35:40,759
build and you should aspire to that and um so stack sats but don't do it in an anxious way like

1337
01:35:40,759 --> 01:35:47,579
this is my one chance 2025 is my one chance in my entire life um you know or whatever it might be

1338
01:35:47,579 --> 01:35:56,179
let that anxiety um find its proper place like what you said jordan yeah and and until until

1339
01:35:56,179 --> 01:36:03,219
bitcoin becomes like you know the global uh the global currency and it completely takes over

1340
01:36:03,219 --> 01:36:07,499
as long as fiat currencies are around in every country in the world,

1341
01:36:08,039 --> 01:36:12,099
people are going to be stolen from when they hold that fiat currency.

1342
01:36:12,099 --> 01:36:18,559
So buying Bitcoin just at the most basic level is just a way of taking what you've been given

1343
01:36:18,559 --> 01:36:21,279
and preserving it from being stolen.

1344
01:36:22,399 --> 01:36:24,099
It's just basic stewardship.

1345
01:36:24,659 --> 01:36:25,899
It's not complicated.

1346
01:36:26,359 --> 01:36:29,199
If you leave it in the fiat currency, it is going to be debased,

1347
01:36:29,299 --> 01:36:31,679
which is them stealing some of what you've earned.

1348
01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:36,699
it's like them breaking into your house and stealing a little bit of it um so putting in

1349
01:36:36,699 --> 01:36:43,479
bitcoin just simply preserves that and prevents it from being debased and stolen so amen anyhow we

1350
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:47,819
are we are grateful for all of you if if again if you're fighting benefit from these one of the

1351
01:36:47,819 --> 01:36:52,659
things that you could do to help support the future of this podcast is to run over to apple

1352
01:36:52,659 --> 01:36:59,139
and spotify and leave us uh reviews uh run over to youtube and subscribe and like uh and interact

1353
01:36:59,139 --> 01:37:02,499
with posts, with all these different algorithms.

1354
01:37:02,859 --> 01:37:07,039
That's one way to help break through the noise and to help ensure that other people find this

1355
01:37:07,039 --> 01:37:07,939
going forward in the future.

1356
01:37:08,959 --> 01:37:10,939
Matt, Ryan, super grateful for you guys.

1357
01:37:11,059 --> 01:37:15,959
And we will be back with the Mountain Presby's on Thursday with another episode of To the

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01:37:15,959 --> 01:37:16,619
Unknown Pod.

1359
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:19,779
And I might do at least one other episode this week.

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01:37:19,859 --> 01:37:20,259
We'll see.

1361
01:37:20,799 --> 01:37:22,679
And you can keep your eyes peeled for that.

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01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:25,659
We'll see you on the next episode of To the Unknown Pod.

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you