1 00:00:02,559 --> 00:00:03,260 We're live. 2 00:00:04,310 --> 00:00:05,440 What's up, what's up, what's up? 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:06,580 Freedom Tech. 4 00:00:07,399 --> 00:00:08,880 Welcome to Freedom Tech Weekend. 5 00:00:09,010 --> 00:00:11,400 My name is Marks, and I am your host every week. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,540 We're here every Friday. 7 00:00:13,370 --> 00:00:17,360 And right now it is 1600 UTC. 8 00:00:17,690 --> 00:00:20,960 Try to go live by 1530, but sometimes a bit late. 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:27,300 Welcome and join us this week as we talk about a new, another Freedom Tech tool, 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,380 Another thing that you can try out this weekend to make yourself a bit more 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,540 open in your technology usage. 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,920 We are live on TFTC. We're live on my own X. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,300 We're live on YouTube's also live on ZapStream. Well, 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,540 hopefully let's go check it real quick. 15 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:51,280 ZapStream has been having some problems lately. Let's go take a look. 16 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:57,320 Still not live there yet, but let's keep looking today. 17 00:00:57,580 --> 00:01:00,440 we're doing a great show. I'm really excited for this one because it's something that's near and 18 00:01:00,450 --> 00:01:05,059 dear to my heart and that is music. We're going to be talking about music. I've got my 311 shirt on. 19 00:01:06,220 --> 00:01:12,820 Let's see. Oh man. Yeah, there we go. 311. Throwing it up. Looks like we're live on ZapStream. 20 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:18,620 Make sure we're live on the other channels. Let's go hit up something here. 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Got my notification that I'm live on X. 22 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Boom. 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Okay. 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,980 We're looking good there. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:31,860 Right on. 26 00:01:31,890 --> 00:01:32,600 I'm just going to trust. 27 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:35,080 Trust that we're live elsewhere. 28 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:38,260 Let's get to YouTube. 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,100 How's everybody feeling today? 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:40,640 How's your Friday? 31 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:41,520 How's your week been? 32 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:45,460 Mine has been lots of ups and downs. 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Mostly ups, though. 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,160 Feeling pretty good. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,180 If you don't know, I co-founded a startup called Maple AI. 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,820 We also go by the name Open Secret. 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,680 We used to be Mutiny Wallet. 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,420 Lots of different names, lots of different things we've been working on. 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,100 But feeling pretty good this week. 40 00:02:02,260 --> 00:02:05,440 We've had some good traction going. 41 00:02:05,660 --> 00:02:08,820 We got a big retweet this morning, which was awesome. 42 00:02:09,060 --> 00:02:09,440 Feels good. 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,080 So things are flying. 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,680 All right. 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,960 Well, we got some people come into the stream now. 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,720 So let's go ahead and really kick it off. 47 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:25,960 my outline for the show today. I usually use, use maple to help me come up with my outline. 48 00:02:26,740 --> 00:02:30,840 But today I'm actually going to like follow up pretty closely, mostly because this is a topic 49 00:02:31,020 --> 00:02:36,600 that I could go on for hours and hours and hours. And I want to stay focused. I want to, I want to 50 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:40,360 make sure that I'm not just meandering and wandering all the time because we're talking 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,039 about music. We're talking about independent music. I'm someone who listens to music every 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:52,940 single day. So many of my like best memories growing up as a kid, as a teenager, in my young 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,120 adult life, so many memories are tied to music. And when you listen to a song, it can take you 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,680 right back into the way that you were feeling. And so music has this really powerful connection. 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:09,000 It can take us out of a spot, put us into a spot, help us have the type of energy that we 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,160 want to have in that moment, whether it's high level, low level. Music just has this real power. 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,000 And it's also a social thing. 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,300 It can bring us together with others, something to bond over, which we really need this day 59 00:03:20,340 --> 00:03:25,300 and age because there's so many things out there that we don't bond over anymore. 60 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:28,520 So many different streaming shows out there. 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,080 I remember when we used to only have a few shows that were on TV and everybody kind of 62 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:33,840 watched the same ones. 63 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:35,200 And so we always had stuff to talk about. 64 00:03:35,740 --> 00:03:40,600 Now it seems like there's so many things that we don't even know what to talk about anymore. 65 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:44,440 So let's go ahead and jump in. 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,340 I'm going to share my screen and we're going to start talking about independent music, 67 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,140 talking about freedom music, and specifically we're going to discuss Wavlake today. 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:03,220 So got my screen sharing there. There it is. You can see my outline as well. 69 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:12,300 And then one more thing here. 70 00:04:15,819 --> 00:04:23,100 There we go. Okay. Make myself a bit smaller. Sweet. This is Wavelike. This is Maple on the 71 00:04:23,140 --> 00:04:30,140 left. My plug. This is Maple AI. Maple is a private encrypted AI. It's ChachiBT, but with 72 00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:38,600 privacy. I can't make it any more obvious. Name that song. That's really it. And so if you want 73 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:42,380 to get it, you can get it for free, just like a lot of people use ChatGPT for free. And instead 74 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:46,740 of giving your life away, giving away all your secrets, all your innermost thoughts to some big 75 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:53,880 company that is trying to harvest all your data, train on that data, and then sell it to companies 76 00:04:54,020 --> 00:05:00,240 and governments, why not use the same experience, but keep all the data to yourself? So that's 77 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:06,740 Maple. Go to try maple.ai. Okay, so first we're going to talk about independent music. Now, 78 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:09,300 Independent music has been around forever since the beginning of time. 79 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,400 That's how music got started. 80 00:05:10,970 --> 00:05:15,460 But then obviously it got overtaken by large record companies, 81 00:05:16,270 --> 00:05:18,740 large producers, distribution channels, 82 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:22,900 especially back when music was more physical and you had to get it distributed. 83 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,040 You had only a few radio stations, 84 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:29,760 and then you had to start getting your vinyl records and then cassettes, CDs, 85 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,900 get these into stores, get them into Tower Records. 86 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,060 Any Tower Record fans out there? 87 00:05:35,330 --> 00:05:36,140 Let me open up the chat. 88 00:05:36,380 --> 00:05:42,920 What's up chat? Let me get that going so I can see all right sweet. Yeah, how about in the chat today? 89 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Once you post some of your favorite musicians 90 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:52,620 They can be big named musicians like I've got 311 shirt on or if you have independent music musicians that you like 91 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:58,280 Go ahead and drop them in here. Let's let's get some let's get some signal going. We've got a few hundred 92 00:05:59,580 --> 00:06:01,099 viewers welcome everybody 93 00:06:01,980 --> 00:06:03,900 Yeah, I want to discover some new music today. 94 00:06:04,050 --> 00:06:09,880 So drop me some deep cuts or drop me even just some mainstream artists that maybe I haven't listened to in a while. 95 00:06:11,020 --> 00:06:12,220 But anyways, yeah. 96 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:20,480 So back when you had to get your music into Tower Records or The Warehouse or some of these music stores, Sam Goody. 97 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:24,020 Man, I'm forgetting all the names now. 98 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,600 But we used to go to music stores. 99 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:27,660 And there were all tons of local ones, right? 100 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:30,700 In town, we have Waterloo Records here in Austin. 101 00:06:31,820 --> 00:06:35,900 Um, so yeah, we, we used to go to music stores actually like really miss that. 102 00:06:36,140 --> 00:06:41,200 It's something that I would love to try and recreate as I think about businesses to start 103 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 and things that I would love to build right now. 104 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:50,300 I'm building a confidential AI and I'm building a software tool that tries to help bring people 105 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,880 more freedom in their personal life and in their work life. 106 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,260 But eventually I'd love to do something in the physical space. 107 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:05,760 And I still have this romantic idea kicking around in my head that I want to somehow reinvent the music store in the modern era. 108 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Some way that we can bring people back together to enjoy music together, even though we're all just streaming it, right? 109 00:07:13,770 --> 00:07:15,420 Like there's nothing physical that you buy anymore. 110 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:26,160 The only time people buy physical music now is to get like the special, you know, orange glittery vinyl record or the pink one or the purple one. 111 00:07:26,420 --> 00:07:28,140 I'm just looking at colors on the screen in front of me right now. 112 00:07:29,220 --> 00:07:32,740 Some kind of collectible that they can hang on their wall and never actually listen to. 113 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:37,560 Really, they're just going to stream it in some app on their phone when they're at the gym. 114 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,540 So I would love to try and bring that back. 115 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:41,540 I think that'd be cool. 116 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,960 Haven't quite cracked how that would work yet. 117 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,280 It probably has to have some element of coffee or boba involved so people come together and 118 00:07:49,410 --> 00:07:51,480 enjoying something along with the music. 119 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:53,780 I don't know. 120 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:55,000 I think there's something there. 121 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:55,960 Same with book reading. 122 00:07:56,100 --> 00:08:04,880 right let's make reading books cool again okay so what is Wavlake well Wavlake is trying to be 123 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:11,840 a streaming service but for everybody else so if you don't have a big name contract if you 124 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:18,820 want to actually connect directly with your fans Wavlake is for you now there used to be 125 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,739 something called band camp it probably still is around band camp is away in like the in the 2000s 126 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:30,540 and the aughts, if you will, in the 2000s and maybe the teens, you could upload your music there 127 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,820 and have somewhat of a direct connection, but it was really just mostly for like downloading the 128 00:08:34,979 --> 00:08:40,060 songs, and people could maybe, I think you could get payments, like people could pay you with their 129 00:08:40,099 --> 00:08:49,219 credit card if they wanted to, but it was okay, and I'm speaking not as a musician myself, but I 130 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:57,260 I've got a pretty strong connection to an independent band that has tried to go this route 131 00:08:57,820 --> 00:09:02,980 and we're actually going to log in I've I'm able to log in as them here on Wavelength so I can show 132 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:08,420 you what the experience is like for them but it's been really difficult to have a go as an 133 00:09:08,530 --> 00:09:14,459 independent musician you don't get you don't get played on the streaming services and even if you 134 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,960 do, you make fractions of a penny. And so you can't survive off of that. And then if you want 135 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:25,040 to do a show and you want to get booked at any of the meaningful venues, well, you have to go 136 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:29,560 through Live Nation and you have to go through Ticketmaster. That's just the way it is. They've 137 00:09:29,580 --> 00:09:36,940 bought up all the venues. They even bought up all the merch companies, or I shouldn't say bought up, 138 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:44,420 but they have a strong connection to basically they are collecting on the venue fee. They're 139 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:51,960 on the merch they take like i've heard upwards of 30 maybe even more of the merch sales as well so 140 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,460 it used to be that musicians musicians would make money off their music but then napster came about 141 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,700 and people started sharing music online and so the musicians had to find other ways to make 142 00:10:01,870 --> 00:10:06,080 music and so they make money so they did it by through concerts and they made a lot of money 143 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,839 off their concerts but then companies came in and started taking all that from them so then they're 144 00:10:10,660 --> 00:10:13,680 they're like, well, we'll make money off our merch. But then now the merch booth is also 145 00:10:15,019 --> 00:10:18,200 siphoning, Live Nation is siphoning money away from the merch booth. So 146 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:24,760 it's become really difficult. Some of this, some of this I learned at earlier this year, 147 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:31,960 we had an independent music summit here in Austin at Bitcoin Park. And they talked a lot about this. 148 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,279 They had local musicians. They had people from, from venues that talk about just how difficult it 149 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:46,520 is. So, Wavlake and others, Fountain is another one, businesses that are trying to help solve this 150 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:51,460 problem and really give the power back to the musicians. So now, with something like Wavlake, 151 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,600 musicians can post the music on there, and then fans can listen to it, and fans can pay money 152 00:10:56,690 --> 00:11:01,500 directly to the musician. And we'll talk about that, but they're able to, if they like a song, 153 00:11:01,670 --> 00:11:08,260 they can boost a song or zap a song and immediately send money using Bitcoin, but they can send money 154 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:14,400 from them as a fan in the app to the musician and uh there's not really anybody in between 155 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:21,680 Wavlake takes a small amount i think it's 10 let's look let's look at the faq real quick 156 00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:27,560 but yeah i think it's 10 how much does it cost to use Wavlake charges a flat 10 fee on all 157 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:32,900 earnings this helps cover the cost of development hosting and payment management that's it if you 158 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:38,320 are trying to stream on Spotify or Apple Music, they're taking way more than 10% and they're 159 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,100 not really giving you much. You're barely getting anything. They're giving you a ton of 160 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:49,860 potential exposure, right? Obviously you're on major platforms, but so many artists that I have 161 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:55,540 talked to and that I've listened to in interviews have said that they've made more money on 162 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:02,160 platforms like Wavlake and Fountain in just a few months than they have in years on all the 163 00:12:01,940 --> 00:12:10,720 the streaming platforms combined. So cool platform here. Let's see. All right. So you can play any 164 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,060 track instantly. There's no DRM. That's a big part of this too, is you can download the songs 165 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:22,760 yourself. So you can come on here, you can stream it. They've got apps on iPhone and Google. So you 166 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:28,660 can stream it just like you would any other, um, any other streaming service, but you can also just 167 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:34,820 download the songs and have them on your laptop, on your phone, totally free from DRM. You can 168 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:41,120 remix them if you want to. You can publish your own music podcast. You can use them in a music 169 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:45,580 podcast or sorry, in your own podcast. So if you just have a regular interview podcast and you want 170 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:51,740 some cool music to play, like as intro music or outro music, it's available for download. You 171 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,639 always, you need to check the license. I would, if I were you, I would just check the license and 172 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,640 make sure that it's okay. But most of the music I've come across on Wavlake just has an independent 173 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:09,780 license. The cool thing though, is if you are doing it in your podcast, you can say during this 174 00:13:10,170 --> 00:13:16,000 moment when the song is playing, I want you to share any proceeds coming in to my podcast with 175 00:13:16,030 --> 00:13:20,920 this musician. You can share a hundred percent, you can share 90%, you can share 20, whatever you 176 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:27,440 want to do, it's called a split. So you can do a split. So if you have a podcast 2.0 podcast, 177 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:33,200 podcasting 2.0 podcast, then as people are boosting your show or streaming Bitcoin, 178 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,160 streaming sats into your show during those few minutes or those seconds, I think it has to be 179 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:44,000 like at least a minute, but during that time that that song is playing, divert the funds directly 180 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,700 to the artist. It's pretty cool. You can't do that. You can't do that on Spotify. You can't 181 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:54,040 do that on Apple podcasts. It's just not possible. And it would be super cool if more musicians, 182 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:58,160 bigger musicians started posting stuff here too, and allowed you to do that, right? But there's so 183 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,100 many, there's so many lawyers in between like a major artist and the music getting to you. 184 00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:09,860 And so many distribution deals that have been signed that it's, it's even a wonder that music 185 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,060 is actually available for streaming on any of these platforms. Sometimes I can't believe that 186 00:14:14,060 --> 00:14:19,820 they've actually made it happen. So what can you do here? So first off, you can upload music of 187 00:14:19,820 --> 00:14:24,300 your musician. They have Wavlake Radio where you can just listen to random stuff. Party mode, 188 00:14:24,580 --> 00:14:28,400 I'm not sure what that is, but let's look. So they've got their own like top 40s. What kind 189 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,920 of music is on here? There's a lot of AI stuff, right? People are making AI music. 190 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:41,900 And it's not exactly my thing. I prefer a real musician who maybe is using AI to help them out. 191 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:46,740 I can't believe I just said real musician because people are going to say, well, AI musicians could be real too. 192 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:50,060 But, you know, I still want that human experience. 193 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:51,940 So here's one of my favorites is Ollie. 194 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:53,040 Let me play it. 195 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:56,500 I've got my speaker here, so I'm going to hold it up to the microphone so you can hear it. 196 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,580 But we'll start streaming it. 197 00:15:11,580 --> 00:15:14,900 How'd you hear that? All right. He said, I never knew the AI lyrics to compete. 198 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,620 Right on cue. So that one's cool. Here's another one. Ainsley Costello. She's probably one of the 199 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:29,440 most famous and popular people here on, on Wavlake. So she's got more of a poppy type feel. 200 00:15:30,340 --> 00:15:31,540 This one's called X-Less. 201 00:15:53,579 --> 00:16:00,060 okay just got a taylor swift kind of vibe going on right so very poppy it's fun fun stuff and 202 00:16:00,060 --> 00:16:01,920 And then another one of my favorites is Man Like Quex. 203 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:08,920 Man Like Quex is dope, hails out of Tanzania, and sends some sats over his way too. 204 00:16:18,460 --> 00:16:20,500 And that song is actually way more rocking. 205 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,860 Usually Man Like Quex has got like dope beats with hip hop going on, but he's very versatile. 206 00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:29,620 So yeah, they've got lots of songs on here you can check out. 207 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:56,180 Then what do we have? We have the new charts. So these are new songs just coming straight off the presses. And then you have music shows. So these are, these are basically podcasts, right? But they're totally focused on music. So people can can do their own. A big one is called Phantom Power Music Review. So every week they go over some of the top songs. There's another one that's called Boostagram Ball. Where'd that one go? Is that one done? 208 00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:00,140 Let's see here. 209 00:17:05,459 --> 00:17:08,079 Well, they've got music shows and podcasts. 210 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,380 Sometimes I don't really know the difference between the two, but those are there. 211 00:17:11,959 --> 00:17:14,400 So you can get those here on Wavlake, but you can also get them on Fountain. 212 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,560 So Fountain is an app we've talked about before, Fountain FM. 213 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,020 They also have the ability to do music podcasts, and it integrates really tightly with Wavlake. 214 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:26,720 I can't show you the Fountain studio. 215 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:27,160 Can I? 216 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:30,940 Yeah, it would be difficult right now. 217 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,620 But if I showed you the fountain studio where you can create your RSS feed and do your episodes 218 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:41,920 on there, they have really nice tight integration with Wavlake where you can search for songs 219 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:46,180 and then tag those songs and stick them in there and you can set your value block, your 220 00:17:46,260 --> 00:17:48,540 split to automatically send money over to them. 221 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,400 All right. 222 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:51,380 What does this look like as a user? 223 00:17:53,620 --> 00:17:59,880 Dang it, I wanted to share my app screen, but I don't think I'll be able to. 224 00:18:00,220 --> 00:18:01,740 I forgot to set that up before the stream. 225 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,300 So the app honestly looks very much, let's see if I can just bring up a video. 226 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,380 So Wavlake iOS app. 227 00:18:14,940 --> 00:18:16,320 All right, fine, start page. 228 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:22,200 I want to show you what the app looks like. 229 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:23,740 very normal 230 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:29,660 we'll go to the app store listing 231 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,380 I don't want to open up the page 232 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,120 whatever okay 233 00:18:37,940 --> 00:18:39,160 no I just want the website 234 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,880 dang it 235 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:41,940 not going to give me it 236 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:43,340 so frustrating 237 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:58,940 oh well okay let's do they are open source by the way another great freedom tech thing 238 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,180 maybe they got a screenshot on here nope no screenshot but you can build the app yourself 239 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:08,820 if you want to get that freedom tech joy going on in your music um maybe the android app will 240 00:19:08,980 --> 00:19:11,600 show me some screenshots here we go all right let's look at these 241 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,380 okay so 242 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:13,660 as you can tell this 243 00:19:13,660 --> 00:19:19,220 very normal, very similar to something like Spotify. And then it's cool because you can 244 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:25,640 start to favorite things. So as I go through, I can build out a library of music. So 245 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:32,040 rather than, well, rather than like going to the store and buying music, I can go on here. 246 00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:37,160 And when I like a song, let's see. So let's say that we've got, here's Angelic Costello again. 247 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,420 So let's see, I've got this one up on the screen. I can hit this little heart button 248 00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:47,200 and that favorites it and adds it to my library on Wavlake. And then I can build up my own 249 00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:53,280 playlist. I can also, another thing I love to do is if I favorite a song, then I will click over 250 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,280 here on this little boost thing. And that allows me to send some money. So if I hit boost, now I 251 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:04,220 can send some Bitcoin over to Ainsley and I can set the amount that I want. Shows me how much it 252 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,380 is in US dollars, just so I have a frame of reference. And then I hit zap and that sends 253 00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:15,740 money directly from me to her. Nobody in between. Wavlake takes a 10% cut, but they're offering 254 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:19,800 such an awesome platform. I'm cool with that. But most of it goes directly to her and that's 255 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,380 awesome. And then she might have her own split set up. So as an artist, she has her Wavlake 256 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:30,020 studio and she can set up how she wants to split things. So if she has a music producer, 257 00:20:30,860 --> 00:20:36,340 if she has a studio musicians that recorded with her, she could set up some kind of split. So as 258 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,980 music comes in, maybe half goes to her as the songwriter, and then certain percentages filter 259 00:20:42,260 --> 00:20:45,760 down to everybody else. And they all have their Bitcoin wallets and they automatically get paid. 260 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:49,820 And it isn't this thing where she has to settle up later and say, all right, how much came in? 261 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:56,060 Let's look at the royalty fees coming in from radio terrestrial broadcasts and, you know, 262 00:20:56,140 --> 00:21:00,620 do an audit and stuff. No, you don't have to audit. It just happens real time. And it's immediate. 263 00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:07,280 and it's just automatic. It's pretty cool. So the Wavelike app is awesome. These screenshots 264 00:21:07,580 --> 00:21:12,140 actually feel like are slightly out of date. I think it looks a little bit newer than this 265 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:18,380 in some of the features that I've used, but they've got top tracks. You have top 40s things. 266 00:21:19,660 --> 00:21:23,420 You can search. They have all the different genres on here. You can find pretty much anything 267 00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:28,799 you want to on here. Yes, you are not going to find big mainstream musicians. You're not going 268 00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:35,200 to find Taylor Swift on here. That's just how it is. But it would be awesome if eventually you did, 269 00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:45,120 right? That'd be cool. Now, next up, let's talk about from a musician standpoint. So I am logged 270 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,380 in. Let me pull up a different window here. Okay. So I'm logged in as one of the artists. This 271 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:56,020 band is called Arson Car. And in the last 30 days, they haven't earned any money. That's actually my 272 00:21:56,020 --> 00:22:01,160 bad because Wavlake a couple months ago switched over how they handle their wallets and so I didn't 273 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:06,300 have a wallet attached to it for accepting money but now I do so man everybody just start start 274 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:14,960 streaming Arsene Carr I I kind of have run this for them and so this is not me this isn't my my 275 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,740 band but I've helped run get them on here on Wavlake and I forgot to put an address in but 276 00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:27,780 now we've got one. So in the lifetime, they have made 44,000 sats, 44,000 Bitcoins, right? And that 277 00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:35,360 right now that equates to about 45, $50 US dollars, given the current Bitcoin price, 278 00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:42,300 which is more than they've ever made on streaming platforms combined in the many years that they've 279 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:48,280 been on there. So that's pretty awesome. I can upload what type of audio you're releasing, 280 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,460 I can upload music, right? 281 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,940 Let's say that I'm doing it as Arsene Karr. 282 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,880 I can put in the title of my album. 283 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,500 I can pick the genre that I'm doing. 284 00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:02,400 I can pick a sub-genre. 285 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,140 Is this a single or not? 286 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,140 Then type in all my normal credits and description stuff. 287 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,460 Upload a thing, album artwork. 288 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:14,940 I'm not going to go much further, but you get the idea. 289 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:17,240 It's pretty simple and basic to be able to do that. 290 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,500 Now they do have a podcast thing. What's the name of your podcast? That's kind of cool. 291 00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:23,360 So it looks like they're getting into the podcasting game. 292 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,520 So Fountain, they're coming for you. Whereas Fountain's been coming for Wavelength too. 293 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,480 They're like working together, but also doing the same thing as each other. But hey, that's cool. 294 00:23:35,020 --> 00:23:39,800 It's a lot of these things are published on RSS feeds and they're open and available for everybody 295 00:23:40,220 --> 00:23:46,700 on open protocols, RSS, podcasting 2.0, using Bitcoin, Lightning Network, that kind of stuff. 296 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:55,380 It's awesome. Okay. So that's, if you are an artist and you want to put your stuff 297 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,040 on Wavlake, it's so easy. You just sign up for a free account. I don't have to pay for this. 298 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:07,020 You upload your music, you fill it out, and then boom, you're online. You'll get listed in the new 299 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:12,299 music section. You can start to promote yourself and you can start having people send you money 300 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:19,200 directly. So let's look at the analytics here. I don't think it's going to have very much activity 301 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:24,600 because again, the whole wallet thing, I didn't have a wallet, correct wallet attached. But in 302 00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:30,040 the last 30 days, Arsene Carr has had a few downloads and they've come from different 303 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,960 countries. Shows you where, so apparently big in Ireland in the last 30 days. January was the top 304 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:40,159 track. This is not the month, but the actual name of a song that they have called January 305 00:24:40,620 --> 00:24:42,140 that got downloaded seven times. 306 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:46,360 OP3 stats. 307 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Let's see that real quick. 308 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,240 This is like an open source analytics platform. 309 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:54,820 I didn't know that they were doing this. 310 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:56,900 That's cool. 311 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:03,620 I can see my releases. 312 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,860 So there are two albums as an artist. 313 00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:07,720 And then this is the band. 314 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,200 Let's see what happens here. 315 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,080 If I click on that, alternative rock band from the aughts. 316 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,500 Hey, look, I use the same phrase. 317 00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:15,020 Cool. 318 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,300 So that is what it looks like as an artist. 319 00:25:18,780 --> 00:25:20,680 Pretty simple and basic, but very powerful. 320 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,680 'Cause now when you publish here, 321 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,720 you're available on all the platforms 322 00:25:29,060 --> 00:25:32,180 that integrate with this open protocol 323 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:36,720 of RSS feeds and Wavlake independent music. 324 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,240 So here's some music coming, some money coming in. 325 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,140 So people sent 50 sats, 50 little denominations of Bitcoin. 326 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,080 And let's see if I can get more information about it. 327 00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:52,400 Came in 50 sats. 328 00:25:52,780 --> 00:25:54,000 Wavelet took its five sat fee. 329 00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:58,040 This looks like it was somebody who was streaming. 330 00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:00,220 So probably what happened on May 21st, 331 00:26:00,330 --> 00:26:03,560 my guess is that these songs were on one of the music shows. 332 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:06,420 And so as people were listening to that music show, 333 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:15,020 were streaming sats every minute to the show and so money came in per minute being streamed which 334 00:26:15,050 --> 00:26:21,020 is really cool 50 sats per minute it's pretty awesome that's a lot and 10 sats this looked 335 00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:27,640 like another stream i wish i could see a boost but i don't see one right now but but if people 336 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:31,880 like a track which i often do like i said if i favorite a track then i'll boost it and send like 337 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,660 two or three dollars worth of bitcoin to that artist for that song. I try to think of it as if 338 00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:42,100 I were buying it back on iTunes in the day or buying a record at the store. Then if I'm going 339 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:46,560 to add it to my library then I might as well send the artist just a little bit of money to say thanks 340 00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:50,060 for the song that I like and then I'm going to hang out or hang on to in my library. 341 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,300 Now there let's let's go down I think this is the next thing. 342 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Yeah, ticket sales. 343 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,500 So I want to talk about that. 344 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,640 So we have ticket sales here. 345 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:08,880 Just want to make sure this is still streaming. 346 00:27:15,620 --> 00:27:16,660 Sorry, one moment. 347 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,440 Just making sure. 348 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:20,180 Let me pull up ZapStream. 349 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,980 Okay, we're still good on ZapStream. 350 00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:24,400 Sweet. 351 00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:29,280 Man, glitching out. 352 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:31,020 Okay, let's back out of that. 353 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,020 Last thing is ticket sales. 354 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,940 I was talking about Live Nation and Ticketmaster. 355 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,620 So obviously with this ban, they don't have any ticket sales 356 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840 because they haven't put on a show through here. 357 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,440 But I did see, I don't know if it's going to be listed on the website, 358 00:27:47,059 --> 00:27:48,800 but when I opened up the app recently, 359 00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:53,200 there was a show going on that you could buy tickets for. 360 00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:59,820 I want to see if they have a link to it. 361 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,720 Music shows now. 362 00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:08,680 Okay, well, they don't have it on the website. 363 00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:16,680 If you are watching this right now, Wavlake, put the concert tickets on the website so we can see it and buy them there. 364 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:24,020 But what it is is there's that Oli, the musician, that Oli that I played is having a show in London. 365 00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:30,060 And so he published, he posted his ticket sales on Wavlake. 366 00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:32,940 So Ticketmaster and Live Nation are not getting a cut, 367 00:28:33,070 --> 00:28:36,700 but he had to find a venue that is not being operated 368 00:28:37,290 --> 00:28:40,960 or has a strong partnership with Live Nation in order to do this. 369 00:28:41,450 --> 00:28:43,760 But now he's able to sell tickets to a show. 370 00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:48,800 He collects way more of the money, the take from the door, if you will. 371 00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:53,040 And Wavlake takes a little bit for being the platform that sells those. 372 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:57,520 I have purchased tickets through Wavlake before to different events. One of them was a comedy show, 373 00:28:58,940 --> 00:29:04,580 a live podcast slash comedy show, and then I also bought tickets to a music show one time 374 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:11,120 through Wavlake. So it's an easy experience. These were small venues so it wasn't like assigned 375 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:15,660 seating. I wasn't picking picking seats on the chart or it wasn't like some big waiting room 376 00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:20,179 where I'm trying to get tickets for everybody else before they sell out. They obviously would 377 00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:24,200 need to build that system if they're going to bring on bigger artists. But to start, it's great. 378 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:31,240 They're trying to topple some really huge incumbents in the space for ticket sales, 379 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,680 but then also with streaming, they're trying to give independent musicians a comparable streaming 380 00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:42,420 experience to what they get on the other platforms, but they get to bring home much more of the money. 381 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,719 So, all right. I think this is where we're going to end for today because we've been going 382 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,700 for a half hour. I try to keep these shows to a half hour. Where are we at? Yeah, we're like right 383 00:29:52,740 --> 00:30:00,580 at 30 minutes. Look at that. So pretty awesome. Go check out Wavlake. Download the app for iOS 384 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:07,760 on Google Play for your Android. You can stream on the website, but it's not as great of an 385 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,919 experience as if you're doing it through the app because the app is just easy to use and you can 386 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:19,760 take it with you anywhere. Let's go ahead and screen share. There we go. So thanks everybody 387 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:25,380 for joining us today on Freedom Tech Weekend. Again, Freedom Tech Weekend is one freedom tech 388 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:31,860 tool you can play with this weekend to bring more independence and use some more open technology in 389 00:30:31,860 --> 00:30:38,919 your life and start to peel yourself away from closed technology. So my name is Marks. Go check 390 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,040 out Freedom Tech Weekend. We have it on YouTube. We've got it on. We published it as a podcast 391 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,700 later on an audio format. And if you're listening on there, hello. 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