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Welcome to Local Bitcoiners, a podcast about Bitcoin meetings.

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In this episode, Reid and Rev talk with Fun and Mouse from the Philly Suburbs Bitcoin Meetup

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and Andrew from Bitcoin Park, Nashville, about Grassroots Bitcoin 2026.

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All right, folks, Rev Hodel here. We're back with another Local Bitcoiners.

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And so today we're doing a grassroots recap.

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We're going to talk about the grassroots event at Bitcoin Park down there in Nashville.

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And so we've got Fundamentals joining us tonight.

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We'll talk with him.

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And then we also have Andrew from the park as well.

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But before we get talking to them, I like to tell a little story from my latest Bitcoin adventure.

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And this last meetup I went to was actually my meetup in South Bend, Indiana.

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And it was pretty cool.

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We had a couple new people.

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one person from Orange Pill App and then one person that found the meetup just through the

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the event the chalkboard in the venue and that's the first time we ever had anyone come from the

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chalkboard so that was pretty exciting and so but I was actually I got there a little late and I had

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just won this maxi madness bugle tournament and so everyone was excited to talk about that and

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since I was late the story had already been told and so then I kind of got I was brought into the

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meet up with a little cheer and that was kind of fun. And so, but we ended up talking about a lot

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of culturally related Bitcoin stuff. And there were these, since these people were new, they were

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more interested in some beginner content. You know, we were kind of in the deep end as far as

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they were concerned. And so we realized that we're going to start to switch the model over after this

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meetup to go to focus more like Reed's meetup in Western Mass, where we're going to do the

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the Socratic seminar style.

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So we can kind of make sure

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that there's something for everybody

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now that we're attracting some new folks.

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And it just gets me excited, man.

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Weather's getting warmer, spring's here.

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Meetup attendance is heating up.

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We get new people coming out.

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Grassroots just happened.

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And so Reed, I think you've got some pretty fun stuff

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to share with us as well.

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Yeah, I teased it a little bit last time.

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I hadn't confirmed it yet.

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So last weekend I was able to confirm we got a new venue for our meetup.

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And I'm pretty excited about it, to be completely honest.

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It's a new local concert venue, like a small concert venue.

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And so it's called the Heavy Culture Cooperative.

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And their focus is on heavy metal music, like local heavy metal bands, which I think is pretty cool.

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They got some cool style going on.

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But inside, so inside there's a bar in one room and then you kind of go through the door and you're in like this small concert venue.

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So there's a stage and for us, like they have a projector and a screen that we can use for the Socratic seminars.

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They didn't have any chairs, folding chairs because it's a concert venue.

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And so I wrestled up some, I went on Facebook Marketplace and got 15 folding chairs and donated them to the venue.

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so that way we'll have chairs when we get there and they'll be able to use them.

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But it's really cool.

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They actually have a really cool ownership model.

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Like they have, it's like the employees are co-owners.

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The artists who perform there are co-owners.

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And then community members, for just a $250 donation,

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a community member can become a co-owner.

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And so that's how they advertise it, is that it's like employees, artists, and fans

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all can be co-owners of this cooperative.

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So yeah, so I'm pretty excited about it.

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And we're already getting big ambitions here

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about what this type of venue might mean for us.

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We're thinking about possibly hosting some regional events,

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possibly hosting, maybe using this concert venue

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to venture into the value for value music type scene.

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We'll see if maybe that's something

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that could be in the cards.

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So we've got all kinds of big dreams for this place.

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But for right now, our next meetup is this coming weekend.

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So April 12th, 6 p.m.

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That's in East Stampton, Massachusetts.

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So yeah, after we get the first one in the books,

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my next goal is to lock down.

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I want to get them to commit to all our meetups

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for the rest of the year.

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So I've got all the dates.

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I just need them to confirm that they'll give us the place.

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So I'm pretty excited about it.

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but I want to kind of kick it over here to our guests.

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So why don't we start with Mr. Fundamentals.

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Thanks for coming on.

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And I know that you host your own meetup,

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I think down in Pennsylvania.

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Why don't you tell us about your meetup?

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Okie dokie.

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Guests might know this is probably the longest I've ever not talked on a

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podcast.

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That was an eternity.

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I'm actually curious before I go into this,

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I'm curious about your venue.

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You're saying it's like a theater? It's like a theater where it's that kind of concert venue?

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It's small. So the building itself is actually kind of a historical building, not in like a big grandiose type way.

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It's like the old, old high school. And then that got turned into, it was like a municipal building for a while.

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So like it was the high school back in like 1900, like that time frame.

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Okay. And then it got turned into like some sort of a municipal building, like all through like the 50s and 60s. And then they kind of outgrew that. And so then it's been a whole bunch of miscellaneous things and it was like abandoned for a little while. Like most recently, it was a massage school.

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and so they took this place over

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you know and renovated it

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and did a whole bunch of sound proofing

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and stuff like that

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and created this so they have this bar area

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it's just it's basically a big room

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that they did a bunch of work to

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they turned it into a concert space

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I'm guessing like most DA floor

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that's right

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yeah there's no seats

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yeah there's no seats

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I can show you some pictures

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Yeah, it'd be cool. I was picturing you guys like, you know, so when I started my meetup, I had one idea actually that I wanted it to be and I haven't fulfilled on it to this day. And mostly it's because the venue I ended up getting just wasn't suitable. It didn't have presentation space.

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But I wanted my, you know, maybe this is from like my standup background, but like I wanted my meetup to be like an open mic where people would come in, not to not to do comedy, but to do show and tell type.

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Like, here's what I'm working on.

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Here's what I'm building.

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And it's not even like I'm building a company.

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It's like I set up a cold card this past month and I just want to show you guys that I did that.

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That I did that.

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And I wanted that.

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Like, I kind of wanted that kind of culture in my town and in my meetup.

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You know, we already like you guys know, we already have like a big presentation meetup, you know, in Philly called Bitcoin John.

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And, you know, there's a, you know, we have Lancaster, we have Central PA, Allentown, forgetting, forgetting some northern Delaware.

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But, you know, so I thought it would be cool to have people come in already expecting to show something, you know,

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Like maybe that wouldn't have happened the first time and the second time, but, you know, maybe by the third time people would come in with that expectation or enough people, you know, maybe two or three people that wanted to spend 20 minutes sharing what they're working on.

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That never came to fruition because of the venue.

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So I'm always so interested, you know, so always so interested in hearing about these types of venues where you can have a state where it's actually designed for presentations.

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and not because I want to sit and do the news.

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I don't, I mean, I have a problem with it.

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It's just, you know, the news is a pain.

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So any of you guys who do meetups that have the news,

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you should thank your organizer because that is a pain.

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Something I have started to understand that job.

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It's a pain.

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And so you should thank whoever does that.

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But so I wasn't looking to do the news,

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more like just looking to create, you know,

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I want people to share themselves, you know, just,

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Like whatever it is.

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And beyond Telegram, beyond like, you know, beyond the Telegram where people are kind of just parroting what podcasts they're listening to and what they're upset about, you know.

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So that's still a bit of a dream of mine.

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And just the venue I got was so good for every other, like it had every other attribute, like parking.

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It's got like a world-class beer selection, like unbelievable.

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And it's got like, you know, okay food.

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You know, normally if you got really good beer, it means you have shitty food.

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Usually that's my experience.

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And or if it's you really good food, you have like, you know, average beer.

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This place has like, like okay food, really good beer, like incredible.

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Free parking and enough seating, you know, enough seating for everybody.

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So I just kind of accepted it.

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You know, so it is.

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So anyway, that's my fail.

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That's like my big fail for my meetup.

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Like I've never done that.

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How long have you been at that venue?

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Three years.

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So maybe what I would do is start a second meetup.

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Like if I found the presentation space, I'd probably start a second one that does this.

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You know, and maybe some subset of people that really want that would go to it.

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I would consider that the real one.

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Do you call that like a workshop or some, what do you call it?

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Just hands-on type of meetup?

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I feel, I don't, I like open mic, you know, Bitcoin open mic.

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Is that what you call it on your meetup page?

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On mine?

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That's what I would call it if I was doing it.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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So right now I just do a hangout and I like that.

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Everybody likes it.

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It does like, you know, it definitely lacks the, like it lacks the energy of when you show up to a meetup and there's an S9 on the table and there's all these trinkets.

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And I would probably guess in Southwest Michigan, there's all kinds of stuff being sold.

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You know, it lacks that.

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It definitely lacks that energy.

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It's another thing I regret slightly about the way I've, just the way my meetup has evolved, is it hasn't really evolved into much of a marketplace.

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And, you know, like many of us order a coffee from Otis, but it comes to our house.

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We don't do that kind of business at the meetup.

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We just come to the meetup, drink beer, talk and hang out and maybe go out for a bite afterwards.

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Yeah, venue is just extremely consistently one of the biggest challenges.

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And it's part of the reason why I'm so excited that I finally found this place.

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This will be our fourth venue.

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If you don't count some of the random bars that we did in the early days, it's our fourth.

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Hopefully, it will be our fourth solid, consistent venue.

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By far, this is hands down better than anything else we've had.

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But speaking of venues, you can find a venue, you know, or you can have Bitcoin Park, which is a whole different strategy in and of itself.

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So, Andrew, why don't you tell us, you know, introduce yourself a little bit and why don't you tell us about Bitcoin Park in Nashville?

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Yeah, yeah, Andrew here.

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This is actually my second podcast I've ever been on, Bitcoin podcast.

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so number two the first one hasn't even come out yet which uh it's a long lead or lag time

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uh it was one we filmed in el salvador in uh january so still checking to see when that'll

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come out but may this might be the first one that comes out which will be exciting

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all right um but yeah great to be on um and yeah just hosted grassroots bitcoin which which was a

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lot of fun. My first experience like that and being with all the grassroots organizers,

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you just get so much energy. It's like, these are the people that are making it happen.

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This is real Bitcoin growth and adoption. Everybody in the room that really spreads it.

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So it was just awesome to host that experience at Bitcoin Park. Just a little bit about me. So I

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I just came on to Bitcoin Park, left my fiat job last year.

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And just, yeah, fun doing Bitcoin stuff all the time now.

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What were you doing?

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Do you mind if I ask?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I was working in biotech for the last five years.

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I was in a sales role.

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Well, a sales role for this company.

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They did remote-controlled research labs.

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it's called Emerald Cloud Lab was the name of the company.

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Yeah, selling to pharmaceutical companies

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and that was just a drag.

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So yeah, Bitcoin is way better.

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So anyway, yeah, Bitcoin Park now

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and really we just create a community space for Bitcoiners.

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And we host, I'd say, five to ten meetups a month, all different types, including summits as well.

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And we just really lay the groundwork in the organization for the meetup leaders to shine there.

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So a lot of our meetup organizers are our members and great people that really want to do this stuff and take the reins on leading a meetup.

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So we just have the space there.

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We manage the space.

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We make it just the place for Bitcoiners to learn, build, collaborate and grow together and really just pushing Bitcoin adoption forward.

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So over the last, I guess, over five years now, I'm just obsessed with Bitcoin.

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So great place to be.

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And then, yeah, just hosting these meetups and working with the meetup organizers.

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The number one thing is just making sure you're energized to host your meetups.

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so uh we anybody someone uh at the park was like i really want to host this philosophy and ai

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meetup and he was like all about it he he uh came up with um this whole um program for how it will

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run he was looking at how other uh organizers are going to do this and uh yeah he's he's excited to

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get it going. So that's going to pop up at the end of April. Philosophy for freedom in the age of AI,

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it'll be called. So that's some of our AI meetups we're starting to run. We have our normal

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bit devs. We have our Bitcoin 101, our Bitcoin 102. We're starting up a mining Mondays,

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which will be April 20th. So just spinning them out as fast as we can, which is a lot of fun.

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well I don't know if this is an anomaly but I so I've been a Bitcoin park twice and I went the

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first time I went I went to the first Nosterville and that was like talk about energy there was some

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crazy energy at that time and then the second time was grassroots last year and I felt the same thing

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just this hum this buzz at the place and so I don't know if this is just um if it's like this

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at every event.

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It sounds like this is what you guys are trying to achieve.

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But at the same time, I feel like as the guy who's always in that,

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it can be exhausting too.

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No, I just love throwing, having these,

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just throwing a great experience.

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It's awesome.

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I actually love just being like the guy that's like hustling behind the scenes.

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I actually don't like to be the guy on the stage or doing anything.

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I like to be behind the scenes, making it like turning the right knobs, making sure the music is playing at the right time, the coolers are packed, and just making sure it's a great vibe, which is a lot of fun.

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And yeah, listening to everybody, I wish I was able to listen to more of the lightning talks.

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I was managing outside and inside, watching to see when the food would come in, making sure everything's organized.

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But yeah, from just little things I've heard, like even hosting a meetup on a Sunday like Reed, that's a great idea.

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And even little things like, that's why I was asking you, Brian, is like, what are you calling your meetup?

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Because even naming what you call it is important.

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So little things like that.

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I just changed the name of my meetup.

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By the way, you guys really were incredible.

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Andrew, you were incredible.

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Personally, I can't thank you enough for the attention to detail.

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There was the podcast that you just were so good.

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Everything was great.

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But, like, I have to say I felt really so much generosity from the people at Bitcoin Park.

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So thank you for that.

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And you really did, like, I felt it.

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I have to think people I talked to all felt it.

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It's a special experience.

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Yeah, and it comes back to the energy.

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It's like if that gives you energy, you're just going to keep giving the energy out.

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So all of us on our team are just energized to do this stuff, which is awesome.

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Yeah, I've decided to cut back on my Bitcoin travel, so to speak.

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and because there's so many different events

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and so many great options to choose from

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and every year I'm kind of like,

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oh man, I could choose from all these different types

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of experiences I haven't had before

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and it's like, yeah, but I mean,

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I'm definitely not crossing grassroots off the list.

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So this year was my third grassroots

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and as far as I know, I'm coming back next year.

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It's, you know, to me, it's the event

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of the year.

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That's the event that I look forward to the most for sure.

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And this one did not disappoint.

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Yeah, and we already started brainstorming some more ideas over that dinner.

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So, yeah, it's all – we're already thinking about the next one.

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So, yeah.

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Hell yeah.

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Might as well just look at the dates too and mark your first week in April.

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Sweet.

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it's up there and i think it's hard for an event to get into lake satoshi category of like

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yeah but i think this may this may be there for me i'm it might be one of those

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must do every year it was i had a great time was that your first brian yeah that was my first i

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you know i've been doing this for three years and i remember the first year i set the meetup up like

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a week before grassroots.

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And I remember being told like, oh, you can go down, but you know,

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it's too late to handle that.

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And then for some reason, the, whatever, last year, I don't know.

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It didn't, it didn't get on my radar.

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This year I wanted to go.

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And like, I just, for some reason,

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I feel like I'm at a crossroads with my meetup.

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I think that's why, you know, and maybe it's like,

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everybody has a point where they hit, I think, a meetup organizer where they either crash out

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or they just crossroads and have to figure out sort of what to do. And I think the most

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interesting thing about grassroots that I like is that like I was, so I was at the John last night

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and I was given some reflections on the thing. And like, I don't think I ever spend 30 consecutive

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of seconds thinking about my meetup.

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You know, I just, it's like I go, I have a good time.

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We are on the telegram all the time, but I don't like think about it.

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I don't think about pedically what I want to do with it or anything like that.

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And, you know, I found myself in a chair for like two days thinking about nothing but that.

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And I am at a crossroads because, you know, like I'm not a fan of the venue.

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I'm not sure even what really what we're doing.

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You know, if my meetup hears this, I won't be a surprise, you know, we're just going to keep going.

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It doesn't really matter.

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But like it's but I really got to think about what I might want to do, you know, like something might actually change.

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And, you know, like it like it's it's you had to be sitting in a chair with nothing else to do with a bunch of like with a bunch of people doing it better than you talking about it to get their ideas.

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Yeah, I brought my notebook. That was one thing I learned from the last year. I was like, oh, damn, I wish I freaking brought a notebook or something to write down all these awesome ideas that people are spewing. So this year, I literally, I bought a notebook that would fit like in my back pocket, just so I could always have as soon as you know, because it's not even just like, during the presentations, you know, you'll be talking out at dinner, and someone's like, Oh, something, something, my meetup. And I'm like, Oh, my God, Oh, my God, I have to do that. That's such a great idea.

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And so I was jotting down notes like the whole week.

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It was awesome.

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Was anyone marketing stuff?

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Was anyone wheeling and dealing during grassroots?

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Did you sell some books?

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No, I wasn't trying to sell.

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I gave, oh, I sold one to read.

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But I wasn't really there trying to sell books.

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I was promoting magic internet math pretty heavily.

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and the reality is the lot of meetup organizers are educators it's just like the kind of person

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that decides they want to start a meetup even if they not working in education they have it inside of them right and that why they do it right You have this need and desire And you know usually if you in the Bitcoin space long enough you probably either make something educational right

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And so a large amount of the people that were at grassroots

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were educators that I was talking to.

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So you know what I mean?

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Like, it just occurred to me, yeah, dude,

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I should be sharing what I'm doing.

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and let's see if there's an opportunity to collaborate and help each other.

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Yeah, you did a great job with that live.

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I don't know, even this is recorded, we've never done a live rip before,

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but to do a live rip in person, that's a whole other ball of whack.

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So I thought you guys did a really good job.

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And for your efforts, I'll only speak for myself here,

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but I've been listening to your pod more frequently.

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And I think I just got to the episode

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where it was just you

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and you were kind of talking about

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all the different stuff you have.

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I did not realize you had so many resources.

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So I started to browse around a little bit

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and you're right.

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That's the first thing I was thinking of is

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how can I incorporate some of this into my meetup?

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Because you're creating all this educational content

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and that's what I would like to deliver.

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And so I'm just, I'm going to keep browsing and see if I can find a good fit for the meetup.

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Yeah, I appreciate that.

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It's, you know, I, I thought about with my meetup, I proposed it to some people that I would show up to my meetup an hour early and do what's called office hours, which means like, that's what a math, like what a math teacher would have.

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And so like, you could literally bring me any, it'll be like a tutoring center.

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Like you just come, I'm going to be there an hour early.

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If you want math help, just come and I'll do it.

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Like, honestly, that is literally like that's.

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I want to do that so badly, like I like I want somebody to come asking for help so much so that I could have the experience of sitting down and doing this with them.

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I want the reps and, you know, I want the culture to exist.

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So that's like my only idea I had for my meetup is come early and we'll work on some math.

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No one's taken me up on it.

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So I've had like one person ask for help with Bitcoin transactions, which is cool.

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So like that, that was fun.

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And I'm working on a book on that right now.

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It's a complete guide to Bitcoin transactions, like every byte and like what it all means.

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So coming soon to Magic Internet Math Academy.

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All right.

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Whenever there's somebody that is new to Bitcoin that arrives at a meetup, that's the best thing.

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And it's probably the same with teaching math too.

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It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, let me teach you.

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Yeah, and it's all as a meetup organizer.

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So, you know, it's funny.

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I was asking myself, did I, like, abuse the conference by asking them to do this podcast?

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Was it just like a –

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No, no, that was more than welcome.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, that was –

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Well, I appreciate that because I think actually as a meetup organizer,

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I, at least all of the ones I know, have, do have something in common, which is we all want our people to be verifying their Bitcoin.

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Like, and that's what it's all, like, whether it's math or whether it's transactions, understanding what you're looking at when you see a bit, you know, when you see your own transactions or, you know, when your Bitcoin reconciles to an address.

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You can think through that that actually is a validating thing, right?

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I feel like that's something that organizers have in common, even if they're whatever level they are.

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We desire that for the people in our meetup, I would think.

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So one of the other things I think you mentioned a second ago when, you know, when beginners show up.

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So one of the big things, so I actually, for all the meetups that I, like I've been doing the Socratic seminar thing for a little while. Before that I was, I did some topics here and there, but I've never actually done like a Bitcoin 101 or like a beginners to Bitcoin or something like that.

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we do like my meetup it does have a lot of beginners like a lot of the people who show up

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love or new people are like they're they don't come with a huge background of of bitcoin experience

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or like they haven't been listening to 40 hours bitcoin podcasts a week they're new and so they

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come looking for advice to figure out how to learn and stuff like that and um that's all great but

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I've never actually catered a full event just to those people.

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And so, you know, there was a whole workshop at this, at GraphSuits, dedicated to the Bitcoin

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101s.

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And you guys, right, Andrew, you guys have, are regularly occurring Bitcoin 101, right?

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Yeah, those are every other month.

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This, our next Thursday will be 102, which is actually going to be a cool one on non-KYC

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Bitcoin.

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So that's more hands-on.

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You're a little bit deeper.

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So every other month, 101, 102 rotate.

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Trying to find the timing of that is key.

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It's because, yeah, it's like you're not going to host a 101.

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You guys as organizers only have so much bandwidth

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and it's like you got to pick and choose.

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Well, are you going to host a hangout meetup this week

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or are you going to host a workshop meetup this week

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or are you going to host a 101?

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And then most of the time they just end up

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just being drinking beers at a bar, which is good because then you can have people asking

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questions and then people sit next to each other. But yeah, themes really helps a lot too.

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Yeah, I'd like to get to the point where I'd throw one. I feel like I'd feel bad if I replaced

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my meetup with it. Because then our regular attendees, I feel like, would still be expecting

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like the normal scheduled content,

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but I'd like to throw like a bonus meetup out there.

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Like, I don't know if I'd have the bandwidth

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to do that like every month,

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but maybe every once in a while,

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a couple of times a year,

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maybe run a Bitcoin 101,

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try to get some new people in the door.

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In Grand Rapids, we do a,

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go ahead fundamentals.

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Sorry, I was going to,

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when my meetup launched,

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I tried to do a 101 at that first one.

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And it wasn't me.

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I have a friend, he won't mind if I name him, but his name is Paul Zahner.

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And I don't know, Carl, if you met him at Lake Satoshi.

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He was up at Lake Satoshi last year.

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He hosts a Zoom every Thursday.

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And he hosts, you know, usually, I don't know, Carl, if you've ever been on it,

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but, like, I invite people on all the time.

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And it's usually us hanging.

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But he does it for the sole purpose that if any new person actually shows up,

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he has an incredible six-slide presentation

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that he's been doing for probably nine years.

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And he's the guy, like, I begged him to do it for my first meetup.

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And it's like, you don't have to go on his Zoom,

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but he would hand, like, he'll give you his deck.

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He'll give it to you.

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And I would just say a Zoom call for a 101 is not a bad idea

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in terms of it's probably a good venue for that.

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When I tried to do it, this is part of like my hatred for the venue

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started on day one because like they wouldn't turn the music down.

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They wouldn't even turn it down at all.

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I couldn't believe how uncooperative the venue was being with me.

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And so, you know, Zoom's not a bad idea.

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And it's funny.

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He logs on every Thursday, like no matter what, just in case somebody comes looking for that presentation.

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And it maybe happens twice a year.

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How does he get that out, the message out?

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That's a.

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I really don't know.

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So he he ran the local meetup.

445
00:31:51,128 --> 00:31:54,108
And it when it it sort of was ready to die.

446
00:31:54,188 --> 00:31:57,488
And that's when I started mine and I we rolled his into mine.

447
00:31:59,148 --> 00:32:03,208
So he's like, you know, he's a leader and he's an educator and he's really, you know,

448
00:32:03,408 --> 00:32:07,188
really good at this, but the deck is pretty evergreen,

449
00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:11,088
and I'm sure you'd be happy to give it to you.

450
00:32:12,608 --> 00:32:14,828
So, you know, you have to do a lot of work in creating.

451
00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:16,708
And I mean, anyone can five-code a deck now,

452
00:32:16,848 --> 00:32:18,948
but, like, it's very good and thoughtful, you know.

453
00:32:19,528 --> 00:32:21,008
It goes through, like, you know,

454
00:32:21,248 --> 00:32:24,168
why is Honest Wagner's baseball card worth so much, you know,

455
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:26,548
and, like, things like that.

456
00:32:28,568 --> 00:32:31,488
So I wasn't, I went to Big, or Grashert's,

457
00:32:31,608 --> 00:32:32,948
not this year, but last year.

458
00:32:33,408 --> 00:32:36,208
And it was amazing, dude.

459
00:32:36,388 --> 00:32:39,568
And there was like so much like epic stuff that happened

460
00:32:39,568 --> 00:32:44,188
and like a bunch of cool connections got made from that event.

461
00:32:44,668 --> 00:32:47,188
And so I'm wondering like what were the highlights this year?

462
00:32:47,568 --> 00:32:49,068
Was there like any epic stories?

463
00:32:49,628 --> 00:32:50,608
I got serious FOMO.

464
00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:51,288
I have no idea.

465
00:32:51,508 --> 00:32:52,828
I feel like I totally missed out.

466
00:32:54,788 --> 00:32:57,388
Apparently the biggest story I was in the bathroom for and I missed it.

467
00:32:57,808 --> 00:33:00,388
But I came back and there was a running joke

468
00:33:00,388 --> 00:33:02,848
that everybody kept making the entire time

469
00:33:02,848 --> 00:33:07,268
and I didn't get it, but it was about how everybody should delete Orange Bill app.

470
00:33:07,328 --> 00:33:10,128
Maybe one of you guys who was actually there can explain this.

471
00:33:11,368 --> 00:33:14,008
I think, Andrew, you weren't in the room either, right?

472
00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:15,968
I feel like Joshua wasn't in there.

473
00:33:16,108 --> 00:33:17,928
Yeah, I was running around outside.

474
00:33:18,548 --> 00:33:20,128
Yeah, so it's all on me.

475
00:33:21,268 --> 00:33:22,968
Oh, man, that was epic.

476
00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:28,888
So part of the reason why, the rant itself was great

477
00:33:28,888 --> 00:33:32,628
and very actually informative and educational.

478
00:33:32,848 --> 00:33:43,428
And the reason why it kept coming up was just because it was just really funny, the context of the whole thing, because, you know, we've been going all morning.

479
00:33:43,708 --> 00:33:45,748
I think this one was maybe early in the afternoon.

480
00:33:46,368 --> 00:33:48,508
And, you know, we're just going one meetup after another.

481
00:33:48,608 --> 00:33:53,188
And every meetup gets kind of like five minutes to, you know, the stage is yours for five minutes.

482
00:33:53,268 --> 00:33:54,068
Talk about your meetup.

483
00:33:54,228 --> 00:33:55,268
Talk about what you've learned.

484
00:33:55,568 --> 00:33:57,588
You know, you're in a room full of Bitcoin meetup organizers.

485
00:33:58,248 --> 00:33:59,928
Is there anything you want to let people know?

486
00:33:59,928 --> 00:34:05,368
and so you know everybody's going through everybody's got slides it was you know a few

487
00:34:05,368 --> 00:34:11,508
people didn't have slides you know it wasn't necessary um but you know we get to this one

488
00:34:11,508 --> 00:34:17,808
individual and uh it's like okay all right you know everybody turn off the cameras

489
00:34:17,808 --> 00:34:22,828
turn i don't want to be recorded you know all this stuff which again is fine bitcoin park was

490
00:34:22,828 --> 00:34:28,468
accommodating and he's you know turning the cameras out of the way and he proceeds to not

491
00:34:28,468 --> 00:34:34,588
even mention what meetup he's from. Like, you know, I think some of us kind of knew like what

492
00:34:34,588 --> 00:34:39,868
meetup he was, but maybe not everybody. He decides he's going to use his entire five minute block

493
00:34:39,868 --> 00:34:47,968
to talk about how Orange Pill app is tracking your locations at all times. It's like such a huge

494
00:34:47,968 --> 00:34:53,568
privacy vulnerability. And then, you know, literally for five minutes going on and on,

495
00:34:53,568 --> 00:34:58,908
way deep down in the weeds and the technical, how this works. And then, you know, Rod's sitting

496
00:34:58,908 --> 00:35:04,288
there with the little timer, you know, cause everybody's got five minutes and the timer goes

497
00:35:04,288 --> 00:35:10,868
off and he just is like, okay, that's it. Just walks back, walks back to his seat. And so, and

498
00:35:10,868 --> 00:35:16,368
Rod is like, are you kidding me? Like that was your, that was it. That was like your whole

499
00:35:16,368 --> 00:35:21,228
presentation. So it kind of came up a few times after that. It was just, it was just kind of an

500
00:35:21,228 --> 00:35:23,188
epic, you know, he took the stage

501
00:35:23,188 --> 00:35:25,008
and he had a message he wanted to deliver

502
00:35:25,008 --> 00:35:26,628
and boy did he deliver it.

503
00:35:26,988 --> 00:35:28,048
There's no doubt about that.

504
00:35:29,668 --> 00:35:31,048
And I heard that really brought

505
00:35:31,048 --> 00:35:32,888
everyone together a lot.

506
00:35:32,908 --> 00:35:34,528
It did. For sure.

507
00:35:35,328 --> 00:35:37,148
Those who were there. I mean, this is a

508
00:35:37,148 --> 00:35:38,148
highly intelligent guy.

509
00:35:38,948 --> 00:35:40,968
I got to spend a good amount of time with him

510
00:35:40,968 --> 00:35:42,668
in the hotel and

511
00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:45,188
I definitely would

512
00:35:45,188 --> 00:35:47,128
again, I didn't hear it

513
00:35:47,128 --> 00:35:49,168
but like I got, I asked

514
00:35:49,168 --> 00:35:50,888
him about it and he, you know, I got the

515
00:35:51,228 --> 00:35:53,868
got the down low, I guess, you know, I get to do this.

516
00:35:54,668 --> 00:35:57,888
This guy, you know, so, but, you know, it's the whole,

517
00:35:58,008 --> 00:35:59,868
I can imagine the whole thing, how it looked.

518
00:36:00,208 --> 00:36:00,468
Okay.

519
00:36:00,588 --> 00:36:02,508
It's just sort of hilarious.

520
00:36:03,288 --> 00:36:05,328
You know, this guy gives zero fucks.

521
00:36:06,048 --> 00:36:06,448
Absolutely.

522
00:36:06,448 --> 00:36:06,588
Absolutely.

523
00:36:07,388 --> 00:36:11,448
Everything about his presentation of himself communicates,

524
00:36:12,428 --> 00:36:14,448
I give zero fucks.

525
00:36:17,608 --> 00:36:18,928
And the only other one.

526
00:36:19,168 --> 00:36:19,348
Dinner.

527
00:36:19,348 --> 00:36:22,728
towards the end was awesome.

528
00:36:23,028 --> 00:36:24,708
And I learned about steak,

529
00:36:25,448 --> 00:36:26,968
a lot about steak that night.

530
00:36:27,028 --> 00:36:29,988
Were you at the dinner at the closing night, Brian?

531
00:36:31,068 --> 00:36:32,428
We went to 21.

532
00:36:34,568 --> 00:36:35,368
No, no.

533
00:36:35,768 --> 00:36:36,368
Made it there.

534
00:36:36,868 --> 00:36:37,848
It was a good dinner.

535
00:36:38,688 --> 00:36:40,968
But yeah, we were at the whole table,

536
00:36:41,168 --> 00:36:42,128
ordered ribeyes.

537
00:36:42,908 --> 00:36:46,808
We were about to get ribeyes cut with canola oil.

538
00:36:46,808 --> 00:36:55,148
and always ask your chef or your waiter how they prepare it

539
00:36:55,148 --> 00:36:57,488
because most of the time it'll be olive oil,

540
00:36:57,748 --> 00:37:00,488
which will be cut with canola oil.

541
00:37:01,548 --> 00:37:04,508
So thankfully we intercepted that

542
00:37:04,508 --> 00:37:09,788
where this guy made an ask to the waiter and our waitress

543
00:37:09,788 --> 00:37:15,148
and he found out that it was indeed going to be cut with canola oil.

544
00:37:15,148 --> 00:37:22,488
and uh yeah caught that early are you kidding like after after what we had the night before

545
00:37:22,488 --> 00:37:29,668
and that you're gonna now like sit down and douse canola oil in a freaking robot yeah so thankfully

546
00:37:29,668 --> 00:37:37,368
we all just said everyone get butter steaks um and the whole table enjoyed uh some very good

547
00:37:37,368 --> 00:37:43,688
butter steaks um so always ask how it's prepared because most of the time it won't be butter

548
00:37:43,688 --> 00:37:49,028
It'll most likely be olive oil and it'll most likely be cut with canola.

549
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:50,828
Nice.

550
00:37:51,128 --> 00:37:54,848
I did the tourist thing after that night we did.

551
00:37:54,988 --> 00:37:56,588
I went out with my wife.

552
00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:57,648
We went to Hattie's.

553
00:37:58,468 --> 00:37:58,888
Okay.

554
00:37:59,168 --> 00:37:59,528
Downtown?

555
00:38:00,008 --> 00:38:01,808
Yeah, downtown.

556
00:38:01,968 --> 00:38:04,368
We saw a bunch of guys from the conference there.

557
00:38:04,748 --> 00:38:08,148
That was a moment I was actually a little depressed.

558
00:38:08,148 --> 00:38:13,088
I get this like anytime I'm in a situation, anytime I'm in a conference like that,

559
00:38:13,088 --> 00:38:13,788
and it ends.

560
00:38:14,068 --> 00:38:16,868
Like, there's a period of time where I have, like, genuine, like,

561
00:38:17,768 --> 00:38:20,348
I'm not going to call it clinical depression, but I'm kind of sad.

562
00:38:20,788 --> 00:38:22,668
I have these feelings, you know?

563
00:38:22,788 --> 00:38:24,788
I got these upset feelings that I miss.

564
00:38:24,908 --> 00:38:25,828
I really just miss it.

565
00:38:26,468 --> 00:38:30,848
And it was so nice to see these guys roll in while I was just sitting there

566
00:38:30,848 --> 00:38:31,728
with my wife, you know?

567
00:38:31,748 --> 00:38:32,788
And then we went to Rudy's.

568
00:38:32,888 --> 00:38:34,968
That's a jazz club in Nashville.

569
00:38:35,528 --> 00:38:35,848
Incredible.

570
00:38:36,988 --> 00:38:37,668
The whole thing was incredible.

571
00:38:40,308 --> 00:38:40,668
Yeah.

572
00:38:40,668 --> 00:38:41,208
The only other.

573
00:38:41,208 --> 00:38:56,088
The only other semi-viral moment of grassroots that sticks out to me was we did spark some serious debate about if Bitcoin is for everyone or if Bitcoin is for anyone.

574
00:38:57,268 --> 00:39:00,808
And this came, so Bitcoin is for anyone is an event that's coming up.

575
00:39:00,868 --> 00:39:02,548
I think it's May 22nd, May 23rd.

576
00:39:04,168 --> 00:39:10,688
And upon its introduction, it was immediately met with, oh, I believe you're mistaken, sir.

577
00:39:10,688 --> 00:39:14,128
because Bitcoin is for anyone, not for everyone.

578
00:39:14,848 --> 00:39:19,088
And so, yeah, everybody for the rest of the time,

579
00:39:19,168 --> 00:39:22,628
we were all kind of going back and forth about if Bitcoin is for everyone

580
00:39:22,628 --> 00:39:24,108
or if Bitcoin is for anyone.

581
00:39:25,168 --> 00:39:29,588
So that was another thing that I think I'll remember from this one.

582
00:39:31,628 --> 00:39:39,808
I have to say the best joke of the conference was he is,

583
00:39:39,808 --> 00:39:44,628
So he has this game called Mission Bitcoin, and he had a bunch of them.

584
00:39:45,788 --> 00:39:46,468
And you know the joke?

585
00:39:46,468 --> 00:39:52,568
I had to, like, rewind it in my head because I wanted to be able to communicate this because I loved it.

586
00:39:52,648 --> 00:39:56,408
It was so good where he basically, you know, he was like, what did he say?

587
00:39:56,428 --> 00:39:57,468
He said it was a million seller.

588
00:39:58,228 --> 00:39:59,888
He said it was the one.

589
00:40:00,648 --> 00:40:03,068
And everyone was, even myself, I was like, oh, really?

590
00:40:03,268 --> 00:40:05,608
He's like, yeah, I got a million of them in my seller.

591
00:40:05,608 --> 00:40:09,908
yeah he nailed that one

592
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:12,328
that tickled me and he nailed it

593
00:40:12,328 --> 00:40:13,748
he said it perfectly it was funny

594
00:40:13,748 --> 00:40:14,248
it was perfect

595
00:40:14,248 --> 00:40:18,048
you know I have his game

596
00:40:18,048 --> 00:40:19,068
Mission Bitcoin

597
00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:22,168
and it's

598
00:40:22,168 --> 00:40:23,028
enjoyable to play

599
00:40:23,028 --> 00:40:25,248
my kids like it

600
00:40:25,248 --> 00:40:27,408
it gets a thumbs up for my kids

601
00:40:27,408 --> 00:40:29,628
I didn't take one but I'm sure

602
00:40:29,628 --> 00:40:31,068
he'll be at Lake Satoshi

603
00:40:31,068 --> 00:40:34,288
those games all are awesome

604
00:40:34,288 --> 00:40:37,128
And I realized I need to play more of those.

605
00:40:37,788 --> 00:40:40,208
I need to put them out in the park more, actually.

606
00:40:41,368 --> 00:40:41,848
Those are good.

607
00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:45,488
A game night meetup would be a fun one.

608
00:40:47,508 --> 00:40:51,008
You know, Carl and I have worked on a game.

609
00:40:51,268 --> 00:40:58,208
And so I only say that to say that I have the utmost respect for anyone who got a game into production.

610
00:40:58,208 --> 00:41:06,768
because you know you can you can dork around with a great idea for a long time but when you

611
00:41:06,768 --> 00:41:12,828
you actually make it and so like that joke even though he like you know he had a big vision and

612
00:41:12,828 --> 00:41:19,608
made made a million of these games dude getting that game into production is uh very very impressive

613
00:41:19,608 --> 00:41:26,948
that's all what's your game what what's uh is it two are you able to disclose anything

614
00:41:26,948 --> 00:41:32,608
well yeah actually it's been a long time since we since we thought much about it it's one of those

615
00:41:32,608 --> 00:41:38,068
things that has a lot of life for a little bit of time and then everyone just works on

616
00:41:38,068 --> 00:41:47,908
on their life so the game we the game was called uh citadel and i think the slogan was um

617
00:41:47,908 --> 00:41:56,928
many will play um none like many will play none will win or something like that the idea was not

618
00:41:56,928 --> 00:42:02,848
The idea is that it's like a card game and every like turn you're facing disaster.

619
00:42:03,508 --> 00:42:18,428
And the idea is you use some combination of cooperation and strategy to build a citadel and survive all of these horrific risks that are coming down the pike.

620
00:42:19,388 --> 00:42:25,388
And, you know, basically it's like if you find yourself homeless and then you get hit with a disaster, you're dead and you're out of the game.

621
00:42:25,388 --> 00:42:31,128
But then the idea was that people would start pulling resources together and building Citadels together.

622
00:42:31,808 --> 00:42:45,528
And, you know, we would eventually, if this thing got out in the wild, we would actually discover the strategies for, you know, for navigating a perilous world like this as Bitcoiners.

623
00:42:46,148 --> 00:42:48,208
And that was like the sort of the idea and the hope.

624
00:42:48,548 --> 00:42:53,768
Just, you know, waiting for a spark of energy to come back to it.

625
00:42:53,768 --> 00:42:55,808
it's a little bit on the

626
00:42:55,808 --> 00:42:58,528
the way I always thought about it man was that

627
00:42:58,528 --> 00:42:59,608
it was like this

628
00:42:59,608 --> 00:43:02,588
we were just going to release this concept out

629
00:43:02,588 --> 00:43:04,648
there with this broad

630
00:43:04,648 --> 00:43:06,728
scope of possibilities not knowing

631
00:43:06,728 --> 00:43:07,688
how it could be broken

632
00:43:07,688 --> 00:43:10,608
and then letting people play it

633
00:43:10,608 --> 00:43:12,828
and break the game and then we'd

634
00:43:12,828 --> 00:43:14,568
iterate from there

635
00:43:14,568 --> 00:43:16,448
and that's like

636
00:43:16,448 --> 00:43:18,468
to gamify something like that is like

637
00:43:18,468 --> 00:43:20,548
to gamify the strategy and how

638
00:43:20,548 --> 00:43:22,628
you would actually build a Citadel or a

639
00:43:22,628 --> 00:43:28,928
And so when you gamify stuff like these real world, I mean, sports are a good example, right?

640
00:43:29,228 --> 00:43:32,488
To gamify war or whatever, to gamify battle.

641
00:43:32,908 --> 00:43:37,728
And so you could gamify Citadel building strategy, right?

642
00:43:38,168 --> 00:43:41,788
And we would learn it together through the process of iterating through the game.

643
00:43:42,728 --> 00:43:47,028
But it's like we were talking about, it's hard to do that.

644
00:43:47,928 --> 00:43:51,508
It takes some time and we've gone through spurts of working on it.

645
00:43:51,508 --> 00:43:54,728
and then it's on the table right now, just kind of in the back burner.

646
00:43:55,888 --> 00:43:59,488
Yeah, like me and the other originator were working on it for a while

647
00:43:59,488 --> 00:44:01,748
and then it died out and then Carl came in and we were like,

648
00:44:01,828 --> 00:44:03,228
yes, this thing's totally going to happen.

649
00:44:03,388 --> 00:44:03,828
Carl's here.

650
00:44:04,748 --> 00:44:08,888
And, you know, he's had his fill and then we've had some other people come in, right?

651
00:44:09,368 --> 00:44:11,248
But that's why, dude, getting a game like that,

652
00:44:11,348 --> 00:44:15,148
getting a game off the ground and into production is like mad respect.

653
00:44:15,568 --> 00:44:18,808
Like the energy it takes is extraordinary.

654
00:44:18,808 --> 00:44:20,268
And these are a lot.

655
00:44:20,868 --> 00:44:21,268
Probably.

656
00:44:21,508 --> 00:44:22,648
It has to be the biggest thing.

657
00:44:23,808 --> 00:44:24,368
What's that?

658
00:44:24,848 --> 00:44:27,648
User adoption probably has to be a huge thing.

659
00:44:28,068 --> 00:44:31,828
You have to have such a strong vision that people are going to actually try and play it.

660
00:44:32,048 --> 00:44:35,088
Like if you've ever played HODL up, there's a billion pieces in that game.

661
00:44:35,088 --> 00:44:40,388
I just can imagine the amount of work that Scott, those guys did.

662
00:44:41,028 --> 00:44:43,808
And in getting it all done, it's remarkable.

663
00:44:44,028 --> 00:44:47,348
And again, these are the kind of people that come to grassroots, right?

664
00:44:47,348 --> 00:44:54,568
A lot of guys, my first meetup organizer from the old, we call it the OG filling meetup.

665
00:44:54,628 --> 00:44:59,968
It was a filling meetup before the John, but he made a game and it was starting to get off the ground.

666
00:45:00,568 --> 00:45:02,988
And then he sort of disappeared.

667
00:45:03,508 --> 00:45:11,388
But I feel like, you know, meetup organizers tend to have games, right?

668
00:45:11,928 --> 00:45:15,548
Maybe it's that they view their meetup as a place to play the games.

669
00:45:15,548 --> 00:45:22,488
but you know i think there's a there seems to be a high frequency selection uh selection there

670
00:45:22,488 --> 00:45:28,528
well i enjoyed seeing everyone play the games out on the front patio that that was cool

671
00:45:28,528 --> 00:45:35,168
seeing yeah so awesome yeah multiple people yeah just playing yeah that was awesome

672
00:45:35,168 --> 00:45:41,808
i think that i think that the meetup organizers consciously or subconsciously understand that like

673
00:45:41,808 --> 00:45:47,488
playing games is an important way to learn, you know, and it's an important way to propagate

674
00:45:47,488 --> 00:45:52,888
culture. When you're a meetup organizer, that's pretty much the goal, right, is to propagate

675
00:45:52,888 --> 00:45:59,148
Bitcoin culture and to connect and unify more Bitcoiners together. So like, it sounds like

676
00:45:59,148 --> 00:46:03,608
grassroots is an event where it's like, all these meetup organizers come from all over the country,

677
00:46:03,608 --> 00:46:11,928
the world and they share that those those that knowledge that they've got and that collectively

678
00:46:11,928 --> 00:46:17,668
in this one potent event like strengthens bitcoin meetup culture across the world what

679
00:46:17,668 --> 00:46:22,148
what were like what kind of stuff was were people sharing with each other

680
00:46:22,148 --> 00:46:28,748
um what were the big like aha this is a really cool idea for a meetup moments that came out of it

681
00:46:28,748 --> 00:46:33,388
well I've got my notes

682
00:46:33,388 --> 00:46:35,388
I jotted some stuff down

683
00:46:35,388 --> 00:46:37,748
it's stuff that I want to do for my meetup

684
00:46:37,748 --> 00:46:39,208
so this is like super selfish

685
00:46:39,208 --> 00:46:44,108
so one of the things

686
00:46:44,108 --> 00:46:45,288
that I thought was cool

687
00:46:45,288 --> 00:46:47,708
was we were talking about in one of the sessions

688
00:46:47,708 --> 00:46:48,948
I think it was on the second day

689
00:46:48,948 --> 00:46:50,768
maybe it was in the workshop

690
00:46:50,768 --> 00:46:55,268
I don't remember what the workshop was called

691
00:46:55,268 --> 00:46:57,488
but anyway we started talking about

692
00:46:57,488 --> 00:46:58,208
how to get

693
00:46:58,748 --> 00:47:00,408
feedback on your meetup.

694
00:47:00,968 --> 00:47:02,228
And somebody said,

695
00:47:02,288 --> 00:47:02,828
just run a poll.

696
00:47:03,988 --> 00:47:04,808
And I was like,

697
00:47:04,848 --> 00:47:05,308
oh shoot.

698
00:47:05,308 --> 00:47:05,628
Like,

699
00:47:06,228 --> 00:47:06,408
you know,

700
00:47:06,448 --> 00:47:07,068
cause I started,

701
00:47:07,228 --> 00:47:17,896
I switched off of our telegram and into an email format because I don know our Telegram group kind of died And I was getting actually better engagement from the emails

702
00:47:19,636 --> 00:47:25,656
And so that's something I want to do is try to figure out how to get, like send out a poll, like even just after the meetup.

703
00:47:25,956 --> 00:47:28,776
Like just hand out, like on your way out here, grab this QR code.

704
00:47:29,616 --> 00:47:32,376
And, you know, which here's the topics that we ran.

705
00:47:32,776 --> 00:47:33,736
You know, what did you guys think?

706
00:47:33,976 --> 00:47:35,036
Like were these ones good?

707
00:47:35,236 --> 00:47:36,216
Was this one not as good?

708
00:47:36,216 --> 00:47:40,316
give them a place to fill in you know hey it would have been cool if you did maybe another

709
00:47:40,316 --> 00:47:46,196
meetup you can do this other topic um just try to get them while it's fresh i thought that was

710
00:47:46,196 --> 00:47:53,176
kind of a cool idea another thing that i saw there was somebody there from um like the bitcoin

711
00:47:53,176 --> 00:47:59,136
student network or something like that and um actually one of the reasons why i started the

712
00:47:59,136 --> 00:48:06,176
process of turning our meetup into a 5013c which is you know kind of a lift um we weren't

713
00:48:06,176 --> 00:48:10,016
necessarily doing it because we thought we could like raise a bunch of money or something like that

714
00:48:10,016 --> 00:48:15,956
because I highly doubt that that's going to happen. However, I thought it would be really good

715
00:48:15,956 --> 00:48:21,396
because we have a ton of colleges and universities right in our local area. If I could start going to

716
00:48:21,396 --> 00:48:26,336
these universities and be more than just, you know, a guy who's like doing these meetups,

717
00:48:26,756 --> 00:48:31,856
if I can come saying, hey, you know, I'm the president of the, you know, the Bitcoin,

718
00:48:31,856 --> 00:48:33,176
the Western Mass Bitcoin meetup.

719
00:48:33,456 --> 00:48:35,096
And we're a 5013C registered.

720
00:48:35,516 --> 00:48:36,696
We obviously know what we're doing.

721
00:48:37,576 --> 00:48:40,156
And hey, can I talk to your students?

722
00:48:40,716 --> 00:48:42,156
Like, give me, can I have five minutes

723
00:48:42,156 --> 00:48:42,876
at the end of a lecture?

724
00:48:43,136 --> 00:48:45,196
Or, you know, can you let kids know

725
00:48:45,196 --> 00:48:46,636
that this is something that exists

726
00:48:46,636 --> 00:48:48,856
and that we're looking for people to help out

727
00:48:48,856 --> 00:48:51,296
and we're looking for people who want to learn

728
00:48:51,296 --> 00:48:53,036
and that, you know, we're available.

729
00:48:53,036 --> 00:48:56,716
So I was very interested in trying to hook up

730
00:48:56,716 --> 00:48:59,016
with that person afterwards.

731
00:48:59,016 --> 00:49:03,116
I don't know. I mean, those are a few of the notes that I had jotted down.

732
00:49:03,196 --> 00:49:12,016
I had some other, one of them I actually already did, which was to incorporate a BTC Maps page into our Meetup website.

733
00:49:13,416 --> 00:49:15,716
It comes zoomed in on our local area.

734
00:49:16,456 --> 00:49:23,636
And then as people's square terminals get turned on or people in our area start accepting Bitcoin, they'll pop up in the map automatically.

735
00:49:23,636 --> 00:49:28,176
So that was kind of a, that was like a weekend vibe code.

736
00:49:29,016 --> 00:49:31,476
that I added to our meetups website.

737
00:49:33,096 --> 00:49:37,476
But I like the idea of a website.

738
00:49:37,936 --> 00:49:40,956
It's another thing I never thought to do at all,

739
00:49:41,856 --> 00:49:46,656
but like pretty good way to just sort of, you know,

740
00:49:47,456 --> 00:49:49,096
dictate content that.

741
00:49:50,336 --> 00:49:51,256
And this is way, like,

742
00:49:51,356 --> 00:49:53,536
maybe I don't have a presentation space to do the news,

743
00:49:53,616 --> 00:49:57,236
but I might show stories that I want seen on the website.

744
00:49:57,236 --> 00:49:58,756
It's a really good idea.

745
00:49:58,756 --> 00:50:01,676
And it's like so ridiculous that I never thought to do it.

746
00:50:02,896 --> 00:50:03,096
You know?

747
00:50:03,476 --> 00:50:05,756
Well, up until recently, it was a giant pain in the ass.

748
00:50:06,436 --> 00:50:09,216
Like that's why, you know, we didn't really, we actually did,

749
00:50:09,296 --> 00:50:12,816
we paid money to have someone make us like a decent looking website.

750
00:50:13,316 --> 00:50:16,176
You know, and then six months later, I can do it in like 20 minutes,

751
00:50:16,536 --> 00:50:19,416
you know, with one of these clots or whatever.

752
00:50:19,416 --> 00:50:23,816
So I ended up, I mean, I just redid the whole thing like myself

753
00:50:23,816 --> 00:50:27,316
in like four hours with the help of an agent

754
00:50:27,316 --> 00:50:29,036
who knows how to code these things.

755
00:50:29,996 --> 00:50:32,356
And now it feels like every time I just get an idea,

756
00:50:32,476 --> 00:50:34,696
I'm like, oh, shit, that'd be so easy to add to the,

757
00:50:35,416 --> 00:50:36,976
you know, I don't know how to actually add it.

758
00:50:37,196 --> 00:50:39,036
But, you know, my agent knows how to do it.

759
00:50:39,456 --> 00:50:42,596
So five minutes before I did my lightning thing.

760
00:50:43,236 --> 00:50:46,496
By the way, I didn't, I mean, I don't know.

761
00:50:46,556 --> 00:50:47,236
Maybe this is feedback.

762
00:50:47,236 --> 00:50:49,596
I didn't know, I didn't know we were doing,

763
00:50:49,736 --> 00:50:51,536
I just didn't know that's how this went.

764
00:50:52,176 --> 00:50:52,976
But it's cool.

765
00:50:53,176 --> 00:50:54,316
I was glad to go do it.

766
00:50:54,756 --> 00:50:55,776
But five minutes before,

767
00:50:55,776 --> 00:50:57,856
I didn't have slides, right?

768
00:50:57,916 --> 00:50:59,496
And I didn't feel bad or anything about it.

769
00:50:59,516 --> 00:51:00,456
I just didn't have them.

770
00:51:01,076 --> 00:51:05,716
But I basically just made a bunch of slides five minutes before.

771
00:51:06,076 --> 00:51:07,236
And I thought about it.

772
00:51:07,276 --> 00:51:09,476
I'm like, they would have been passable.

773
00:51:10,416 --> 00:51:12,236
You know, I decided not to use them.

774
00:51:12,876 --> 00:51:15,056
It's like, okay, this will just be my thing.

775
00:51:15,736 --> 00:51:17,936
Me and Orange Pell App guy.

776
00:51:18,776 --> 00:51:20,396
You know, be the no slides guy.

777
00:51:20,836 --> 00:51:23,456
But it is like, yeah, you're right.

778
00:51:23,496 --> 00:51:24,056
It's wild.

779
00:51:24,056 --> 00:51:30,856
Like there's no barriers now to essentially communicating to a lot of people.

780
00:51:31,776 --> 00:51:32,256
Right.

781
00:51:32,516 --> 00:51:33,396
There's no barriers now.

782
00:51:35,156 --> 00:51:35,676
Yeah.

783
00:51:35,716 --> 00:51:42,216
So actually, so speaking about preparing for the lightning round presentations, I mean, that was something like I'd like to hear.

784
00:51:42,696 --> 00:51:45,076
One thing we haven't really talked a ton about yet.

785
00:51:45,076 --> 00:51:52,976
I sort of want to hear something more of the nitty gritty behind the scenes stuff about how you guys prepared for grassroots.

786
00:51:52,976 --> 00:51:57,656
it's like one of the things like with those lightning presentations like at first i think it

787
00:51:57,656 --> 00:52:03,236
was jack was was collecting all the but before that rod's idea was just oh everyone's just going

788
00:52:03,236 --> 00:52:09,976
to come up and plug in their laptops like directly into the i was like i immediately was like i'm

789
00:52:09,976 --> 00:52:15,936
just going to email you my presentation now because that is never going to work so um but

790
00:52:15,936 --> 00:52:21,676
you know you guys are dealing with you know that was one tiny little detail and a whole sea of

791
00:52:21,676 --> 00:52:26,236
things that you guys are dealing with so you know how did it go preparing for that like how long did

792
00:52:26,236 --> 00:52:30,636
it take you to prepare for that like have you been thinking about that for months or how did it long

793
00:52:30,636 --> 00:52:37,696
did it take that for grassers to come together yeah yeah so it's I mean we're working on a bunch

794
00:52:37,696 --> 00:52:48,236
of summits and meetups all throughout the year um so it's basically um we're well we get we get the

795
00:52:48,236 --> 00:52:53,376
date on the calendar once we get the date on the calendar then then we just start planning for it

796
00:52:53,376 --> 00:53:02,636
so we probably got chose the date on the calendar um back half of last year maybe

797
00:53:02,636 --> 00:53:10,616
i don't know the specific time maybe uh november december we we found the date

798
00:53:10,616 --> 00:53:17,716
um then the biggest thing is just getting the message out there um thankfully we have

799
00:53:17,716 --> 00:53:22,376
telegram chats and signal chats from previous years.

800
00:53:22,376 --> 00:53:25,756
So we can say that it's happening there.

801
00:53:27,016 --> 00:53:28,916
So, and then before all of that,

802
00:53:28,976 --> 00:53:33,056
we have to get all the landing pages in place.

803
00:53:33,056 --> 00:53:38,596
So that's all the pre-summit work that goes into it.

804
00:53:38,776 --> 00:53:41,036
So it's got to get the meetup page up,

805
00:53:41,376 --> 00:53:44,296
got to get our Google form up.

806
00:53:44,556 --> 00:53:47,136
At first we had type form and you guys saw,

807
00:53:47,136 --> 00:53:49,216
we made a switch midway through.

808
00:53:49,896 --> 00:53:52,836
So did type form to Google form.

809
00:53:53,896 --> 00:53:56,496
And then, yeah, so letting everyone know it's happening.

810
00:53:56,996 --> 00:53:59,856
Well, that is like a really interesting aspect

811
00:53:59,856 --> 00:54:02,256
of the event itself that I didn't really think about

812
00:54:02,256 --> 00:54:07,816
was is that like, this is a very niche audience, right?

813
00:54:08,576 --> 00:54:09,376
Meetup organizers.

814
00:54:09,676 --> 00:54:11,996
So how do you connect with enough

815
00:54:11,996 --> 00:54:14,196
like meetup organizers out there?

816
00:54:14,196 --> 00:54:22,596
And so it sounds like it kind of snowballs each year where there's more and more people that kind of know about it and through the grassroots, they hear about it.

817
00:54:23,956 --> 00:54:31,496
Are you having to turn people away at this point or is it still just right?

818
00:54:32,756 --> 00:54:34,476
No, no, it's just right.

819
00:54:34,476 --> 00:54:38,936
I mean, we can tell who are good organizers or not.

820
00:54:38,936 --> 00:54:48,976
Some people that just spun up a meetup, we can tell, or they have a shitcoin or crypto meetup.

821
00:54:50,056 --> 00:54:51,116
That's easy.

822
00:54:52,556 --> 00:54:55,996
Yeah, so we can see who's coming in.

823
00:54:56,116 --> 00:54:59,316
Most people we just welcome right in.

824
00:54:59,596 --> 00:55:01,336
Most are from previous years.

825
00:55:01,576 --> 00:55:04,036
There's some new people like Brian.

826
00:55:04,536 --> 00:55:06,776
Brian, how do you hear about it?

827
00:55:06,776 --> 00:55:09,336
Did, uh, were you in?

828
00:55:09,856 --> 00:55:12,116
I remember when I first started my meetup,

829
00:55:12,196 --> 00:55:15,396
like I was saying, it was like so close to the event that I just,

830
00:55:15,636 --> 00:55:19,076
and it was actually my, the OG,

831
00:55:19,196 --> 00:55:21,776
the OG Philly meetup organizer who was telling me,

832
00:55:22,296 --> 00:55:24,676
cause he was going, I think he was first year.

833
00:55:25,456 --> 00:55:30,776
Um, and then, uh, yeah, I mean, we, there's a guy there, you know,

834
00:55:30,776 --> 00:55:34,536
one of, um, one of my meetup attendees is a member of Bitcoin.

835
00:55:35,976 --> 00:55:36,576
Mm-hmm.

836
00:55:36,776 --> 00:55:38,336
He knows. Shout out you.

837
00:55:39,296 --> 00:55:40,636
I already screwed this up once.

838
00:55:40,996 --> 00:55:42,416
I even spelled his name.

839
00:55:42,776 --> 00:55:43,256
I believe it's you.

840
00:55:45,996 --> 00:55:47,816
No, because that's interesting.

841
00:55:47,816 --> 00:55:50,836
I think it really does just spread through grassroots.

842
00:55:52,376 --> 00:55:57,356
And then we want to give back to the meetup community as well.

843
00:55:57,596 --> 00:56:01,936
So I know we gave out a bunch of meetup

844
00:56:01,936 --> 00:56:05,436
or imagine if tickets to meetup organizers last year.

845
00:56:05,436 --> 00:56:07,036
We're going to do that again this year.

846
00:56:08,196 --> 00:56:16,276
So just we support the network that supports us and makes it happen.

847
00:56:16,636 --> 00:56:19,576
So it's like I think that's where it comes.

848
00:56:19,736 --> 00:56:25,676
And then Rod and Matt Odell have just been all about grassroots from day one.

849
00:56:26,416 --> 00:56:33,056
I think Odell was saying that this is the most important summit we do,

850
00:56:33,056 --> 00:56:37,036
which, yeah, after going to it this year and being a part of it,

851
00:56:37,096 --> 00:56:38,516
I completely agree.

852
00:56:39,016 --> 00:56:39,876
It's number one.

853
00:56:41,516 --> 00:56:46,356
Well, do you think that Rod likes grassroots more than the telehash, though?

854
00:56:47,736 --> 00:56:49,136
He's got to love the telehash.

855
00:56:49,456 --> 00:56:50,636
After hitting that Bitcoin, man.

856
00:56:50,916 --> 00:56:51,716
After hitting that block.

857
00:56:54,236 --> 00:56:57,556
I'm sure he loved it, yeah, when he hit the block.

858
00:56:58,396 --> 00:56:59,756
And he peaked there.

859
00:56:59,756 --> 00:57:02,016
now it's

860
00:57:02,016 --> 00:57:02,656
yeah

861
00:57:02,656 --> 00:57:06,316
you gotta hope you hit another block

862
00:57:06,316 --> 00:57:08,596
well yeah that's special

863
00:57:08,596 --> 00:57:09,836
too that's another

864
00:57:09,836 --> 00:57:12,196
that's another grassroots

865
00:57:12,196 --> 00:57:14,616
movement of tinkers

866
00:57:14,616 --> 00:57:15,956
in the mining space

867
00:57:15,956 --> 00:57:17,596
so that's

868
00:57:17,596 --> 00:57:19,436
that's just my point right

869
00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:22,416
grassroots is so good that it's like right up there

870
00:57:22,416 --> 00:57:24,856
with the telehash hitting a block

871
00:57:24,856 --> 00:57:25,456
it's

872
00:57:25,456 --> 00:57:28,456
a special event it's like powerful

873
00:57:28,456 --> 00:57:28,876
man

874
00:57:29,756 --> 00:57:31,816
it really

875
00:57:31,816 --> 00:57:33,356
I'm sorry

876
00:57:33,356 --> 00:57:34,676
sorry Carl

877
00:57:34,676 --> 00:57:35,696
okay well

878
00:57:35,696 --> 00:57:36,136
okay

879
00:57:36,136 --> 00:57:37,536
so

880
00:57:37,536 --> 00:57:38,696
because you just made me think

881
00:57:38,696 --> 00:57:39,036
you know

882
00:57:39,036 --> 00:57:39,276
you

883
00:57:39,276 --> 00:57:40,156
you made

884
00:57:40,156 --> 00:57:41,336
you sparked a thought

885
00:57:41,336 --> 00:57:43,476
and I think it's

886
00:57:43,476 --> 00:57:44,156
just interesting

887
00:57:44,156 --> 00:57:44,516
the lead

888
00:57:44,516 --> 00:57:44,876
you know

889
00:57:44,876 --> 00:57:45,556
there's

890
00:57:45,556 --> 00:57:46,656
there's clearly leadership

891
00:57:46,656 --> 00:57:47,536
in

892
00:57:47,536 --> 00:57:48,616
Bitcoin Park

893
00:57:48,616 --> 00:57:49,836
you know

894
00:57:49,836 --> 00:57:51,256
my observation

895
00:57:51,256 --> 00:57:53,596
and I don't think I'm alone

896
00:57:53,596 --> 00:57:54,556
you know

897
00:57:54,556 --> 00:57:55,656
culture

898
00:57:55,656 --> 00:57:57,396
culture has

899
00:57:57,396 --> 00:57:58,836
been moving

900
00:57:58,836 --> 00:57:59,476
a lot

901
00:57:59,756 --> 00:58:01,556
Really in the last two years.

902
00:58:01,996 --> 00:58:11,196
I think, you know, I think you go to a meetup two years ago, there's always going to be an S9 there that someone's going to take apart.

903
00:58:12,556 --> 00:58:13,896
Mining was big.

904
00:58:13,896 --> 00:58:36,176
And like you had maybe what I just call web culture, right, where we were all reading the same books and listening to the same podcasts and complaining, starting to complain that it's all getting old and tired and people to varying degrees agreeing with that.

905
00:58:36,176 --> 00:58:42,776
But the culture seems, you know, like in my eyes has shifted and I think it's interesting.

906
00:58:42,776 --> 00:58:48,756
And I feel like I just wonder where everybody is with that.

907
00:58:49,576 --> 00:58:55,116
You know, like it used to be, and even like three years ago, I was so hardcore, no shit

908
00:58:55,116 --> 00:58:57,396
coiners ever getting near my meetup, right?

909
00:58:58,076 --> 00:59:03,356
That like, I actually think I traumatized the people in my meetup.

910
00:59:03,356 --> 00:59:13,136
Like anybody comes in here, like say talking about a shit coin, they all just destroy this, this, they'll, they'll just destroy the person and they'll like to the point where they'll never come back.

911
00:59:13,176 --> 00:59:13,316
Yeah.

912
00:59:13,476 --> 00:59:23,416
Well, it, it got to the point where it's like, do you ever like, you know, you like raise a pit bull and then you're like, wait, I kind of, I got a bit of a monster on my hands.

913
00:59:23,416 --> 00:59:28,036
You know, like, so for example, I did a podcast episode on Monero, Carl hated it.

914
00:59:28,236 --> 00:59:30,216
I got a lot of hate just for doing it.

915
00:59:30,796 --> 00:59:33,296
And, you know, I think it's cool.

916
00:59:33,356 --> 00:59:45,576
And I was like, you know, I guess my point, my point here is I think there was a period of purity testing among plebs that has sort of passed through the last couple of years.

917
00:59:46,196 --> 00:59:57,176
And, you know, it's one of those things where I think the only place you can really, really beat purity tests in culture is in live meat space.

918
00:59:57,176 --> 01:00:05,636
like online it gets so toxic and impossible and people just dig up receipts and don't accept that

919
01:00:05,636 --> 01:00:11,956
people evolve and change but like in real life people are evolving and changing and you know

920
01:00:11,956 --> 01:00:20,236
people are you know it's like i'm not uh you know i'm not down for this social contract

921
01:00:20,236 --> 01:00:25,536
where i have to like meet everybody's purity tests and i think those people are the ones that

922
01:00:25,536 --> 01:00:30,536
evolving the fastest and the best potentially through what's happening now.

923
01:00:31,056 --> 01:00:31,456
Right.

924
01:00:31,536 --> 01:00:33,316
Which is, I don't know.

925
01:00:33,356 --> 01:00:36,056
I feel like we're in a weird time, you know, we're certainly in a weird time where the

926
01:00:36,056 --> 01:00:40,396
prices, you know, you typically used to rely on the price to maybe, you know, drive engagement

927
01:00:40,396 --> 01:00:44,016
and the meetups, you know, we're, we're, we're in this time where it's like all the, all

928
01:00:44,016 --> 01:00:46,756
the conversations that we've been having are getting a little stale.

929
01:00:47,076 --> 01:00:49,156
All the cope is a little stale, right.

930
01:00:49,236 --> 01:00:50,756
We're like swimming in plebs lop.

931
01:00:50,756 --> 01:00:54,736
and it's a big challenge I feel like to lead.

932
01:00:55,296 --> 01:00:57,316
It's a challenge to lead in this environment.

933
01:00:57,476 --> 01:00:58,936
I'm just like wondering if other, you know,

934
01:00:58,976 --> 01:01:00,596
like if you guys feel that in Nashville

935
01:01:00,596 --> 01:01:04,176
in terms of the tone you guys are trying to set,

936
01:01:04,396 --> 01:01:05,676
like that's definitely there for me

937
01:01:05,676 --> 01:01:06,756
and the tone I'm trying to set.

938
01:01:07,756 --> 01:01:08,736
I don't know, Brian,

939
01:01:08,796 --> 01:01:10,636
you might not be invited back next year.

940
01:01:15,636 --> 01:01:18,316
No, I'm just messing with you.

941
01:01:18,316 --> 01:01:24,196
But no, our motto is, yeah, you can take your shit coins elsewhere.

942
01:01:24,436 --> 01:01:29,456
This is just for Bitcoin and freedom tech at Bitcoin Park.

943
01:01:30,676 --> 01:01:33,736
So we have adopted, we've been playing with our AI.

944
01:01:34,236 --> 01:01:35,956
That's our way of having fun.

945
01:01:38,356 --> 01:01:44,916
Yeah, but other than that, we just keep on the mission.

946
01:01:45,096 --> 01:01:47,056
So the mission's the boss at Bitcoin Park.

947
01:01:47,056 --> 01:01:55,396
That's the leadership and just supporting and accelerating that adoption of Bitcoin and Freedom Tech.

948
01:01:56,456 --> 01:01:58,536
I couldn't have a shitcoin in my meetup if I wanted to.

949
01:01:58,776 --> 01:01:59,976
So, oh, so here's a story.

950
01:02:00,376 --> 01:02:02,456
There was a second meetup that popped up in my town.

951
01:02:03,396 --> 01:02:06,476
A second Bitcoin meetup that started showing up on Orange Pill app.

952
01:02:07,396 --> 01:02:10,616
And really, I decided to go to it.

953
01:02:10,696 --> 01:02:14,016
And, you know, it was a Bitcoin meetup that was perfectly fine.

954
01:02:14,416 --> 01:02:15,596
It was perfectly fine with shitcoins.

955
01:02:15,596 --> 01:02:18,896
and I actually, you know, I went there.

956
01:02:19,036 --> 01:02:20,156
I enjoyed it.

957
01:02:20,716 --> 01:02:24,156
They were cool people, and it was a good time.

958
01:02:24,156 --> 01:02:29,016
But the leader of that meetup was like he wanted to merge the meetups.

959
01:02:29,096 --> 01:02:31,076
I'm like, you and I both know that's never going to happen.

960
01:02:31,536 --> 01:02:35,096
You and I both know that nobody in here is allowed on the other end of the street.

961
01:02:35,496 --> 01:02:37,176
Like my meetup will not tolerate it.

962
01:02:37,356 --> 01:02:42,776
It was just one of those things that it's just very interesting to see how this evolves

963
01:02:42,776 --> 01:02:44,976
because the other thing, maybe we're dancing around it.

964
01:02:44,976 --> 01:02:51,496
I'm glad this didn't come up in grassroots, and I don't allow it anymore in my meetup.

965
01:02:51,796 --> 01:02:54,356
But, you know, fork talk, I guess.

966
01:02:54,456 --> 01:03:14,776
This is where I guess to hit it more on the nose is you have people that will go so far to not ever have to breathe the same air as a shitcoiner that they're willing to, you know, they're willing to, you know, do some damage in the Bitcoin space, let's just say.

967
01:03:14,976 --> 01:03:17,556
So like that's something that I'm conscious of.

968
01:03:17,636 --> 01:03:22,236
And I know that every once in a while I get somebody that wants to DDoS my meetup with this shit.

969
01:03:22,896 --> 01:03:26,516
But like, you know, it's a leadership challenge.

970
01:03:27,556 --> 01:03:37,476
So we had, it's almost kind of unbelievable, but we had a true shitcoiner redemption story in my meetup.

971
01:03:37,916 --> 01:03:41,776
So way early on, this was like we only had like six meetups maybe.

972
01:03:42,656 --> 01:03:45,836
And so, you know, I'm still trying to get people in the door.

973
01:03:46,056 --> 01:03:47,256
Like, we didn't have too many people.

974
01:03:48,156 --> 01:03:51,036
And so this guy comes, and that's all he wants to talk about.

975
01:03:51,576 --> 01:03:55,356
And, like, I, look, I'm kind of a patient guy, right?

976
01:03:55,596 --> 01:04:01,256
And I'm not, I'm really there to educate him about why he's so wrong.

977
01:04:01,716 --> 01:04:05,896
Like, every argument that he's putting up, I'm just putting up the opposite side.

978
01:04:07,096 --> 01:04:08,936
And we just drove him out.

979
01:04:09,836 --> 01:04:11,636
He actually came to a second meetup.

980
01:04:11,776 --> 01:04:13,076
And he was still going on.

981
01:04:13,516 --> 01:04:16,776
And I, you know, my patience started wearing thin.

982
01:04:17,136 --> 01:04:22,536
And I kind of started taking the gloves off a little bit and being like, dude, this is a Bitcoin meetup.

983
01:04:22,616 --> 01:04:23,436
You realize that?

984
01:04:24,336 --> 01:04:25,216
And that was it.

985
01:04:25,276 --> 01:04:26,336
And so then he was gone.

986
01:04:26,336 --> 01:04:28,016
And he like never came back.

987
01:04:29,136 --> 01:04:31,096
Like two years goes by.

988
01:04:31,776 --> 01:04:34,176
And this guy comes back to the meetup.

989
01:04:34,796 --> 01:04:41,016
And he goes, I have to tell you, you were 100% right about everything.

990
01:04:41,776 --> 01:04:45,976
I don't do any shitcoin stuff anymore at all.

991
01:04:46,176 --> 01:04:46,996
Done completely.

992
01:04:47,256 --> 01:04:47,936
I'm Bitcoin only.

993
01:04:48,696 --> 01:04:50,036
I'm like, holy shit.

994
01:04:50,476 --> 01:04:52,476
I can't believe you actually came back.

995
01:04:52,596 --> 01:04:55,216
A true shitcoin redemption story.

996
01:04:56,056 --> 01:04:57,596
I feel like those are pretty rare.

997
01:04:58,636 --> 01:04:59,516
I feel like a lot of them,

998
01:04:59,636 --> 01:05:01,156
if you get burned out of the shitcoins,

999
01:05:01,416 --> 01:05:03,596
it just turns you off to the whole industry.

1000
01:05:03,596 --> 01:05:05,876
So I was glad that we were able to...

1001
01:05:05,876 --> 01:05:07,916
And now he's come to every meetup since then.

1002
01:05:08,136 --> 01:05:09,096
Every meetup he's there.

1003
01:05:09,336 --> 01:05:10,736
He's one of our number one contributors.

1004
01:05:11,776 --> 01:05:21,916
It's awesome. That's, that's beautiful, right? It's like that only happens because you do the work you do. It creates space for somebody to come and, and have that happen.

1005
01:05:21,916 --> 01:05:30,836
yeah it's like you need to if you get any sense of that you have to retrain them and or and re

1006
01:05:30,836 --> 01:05:39,196
reteach them and it it's a lot of hard work and energy to to teach their or to help them with

1007
01:05:39,196 --> 01:05:46,576
their original bias that they have um one thing that i found funny we we met these koreans that

1008
01:05:46,576 --> 01:05:49,156
were running a Bitcoin meetup in El Salvador.

1009
01:05:50,016 --> 01:05:53,676
So we did the Bitcoin Circular Economy Summit

1010
01:05:53,676 --> 01:05:55,416
in El Salvador in January,

1011
01:05:55,596 --> 01:05:56,976
which is awesome, by the way.

1012
01:05:57,416 --> 01:06:00,356
So Roman was putting that on at Bitcoin Beach.

1013
01:06:01,916 --> 01:06:05,176
And these Koreans that were running their local meetup,

1014
01:06:05,536 --> 01:06:07,156
they, in their Discord channel,

1015
01:06:07,156 --> 01:06:11,156
if they get any sense that somebody is into shitcoins

1016
01:06:11,696 --> 01:06:15,696
or not into Bitcoin,

1017
01:06:15,696 --> 01:06:23,816
they put them in their own group chat or in their own uh group of the the discord or telegram

1018
01:06:23,816 --> 01:06:30,976
whatever app they're using and then they have to study everything about bitcoin and they get all

1019
01:06:30,976 --> 01:06:36,576
the material in that one isolated group chat and in order to come back with the rest of the people

1020
01:06:36,576 --> 01:06:44,676
they uh they have to have to pass yeah they're in the penalty box which i thought was awesome

1021
01:06:44,676 --> 01:06:50,276
And it's like, we got to go even harder there on that stuff.

1022
01:06:50,876 --> 01:06:56,376
Because we just, in our Discord, if we find somebody shilling or doing that stuff,

1023
01:06:56,496 --> 01:07:00,356
we just block them or kick them, which, yeah.

1024
01:07:00,636 --> 01:07:06,396
I feel like the name of the game really is trying to shake the bugs out of the woodwork.

1025
01:07:06,556 --> 01:07:07,936
You know, there's Bitcoiners around.

1026
01:07:08,536 --> 01:07:10,216
You got to figure out how to find them.

1027
01:07:10,696 --> 01:07:12,676
You know, there's a lot of Bitcoiners that don't,

1028
01:07:12,676 --> 01:07:20,796
Like a lot of the people that come to the meetups in my area do not participate in Noster and Twitter and any of that shit.

1029
01:07:21,336 --> 01:07:22,356
They're just out there.

1030
01:07:22,816 --> 01:07:29,856
And their only connection to Bitcoin is the meetups and some other, you know, something where we're not at the group chat that we're not in.

1031
01:07:29,936 --> 01:07:30,096
Right.

1032
01:07:30,716 --> 01:07:40,876
And so I think have you have you noticed like Bitcoin Park creating gravity shake kind of drawing these people out, people showing up being like, hey, I'm local here.

1033
01:07:40,876 --> 01:07:44,716
and I came here because I heard about this Bitcoin Park thing.

1034
01:07:45,836 --> 01:07:46,256
Yeah, yeah.

1035
01:07:46,316 --> 01:07:49,796
Most people aren't even really that into Bitcoin

1036
01:07:49,796 --> 01:07:51,916
or don't really know fully what it is.

1037
01:07:51,976 --> 01:07:54,716
A lot of people, you have to even show them what a wallet is

1038
01:07:54,716 --> 01:07:57,976
or they're just starting to hear about Bitcoin.

1039
01:07:59,476 --> 01:08:00,956
So it's like, yeah.

1040
01:08:01,196 --> 01:08:03,996
And then I don't know even how they look it up.

1041
01:08:03,996 --> 01:08:09,016
It's like they search Bitcoin or crypto on their Meetup app

1042
01:08:09,016 --> 01:08:11,996
and that probably is their route.

1043
01:08:12,336 --> 01:08:14,836
Or people are just looking to connect these days.

1044
01:08:15,056 --> 01:08:17,256
It's like people just want to go out somewhere.

1045
01:08:18,696 --> 01:08:20,916
Maybe the free pizza draws it in.

1046
01:08:22,176 --> 01:08:22,616
But yeah.

1047
01:08:23,996 --> 01:08:24,556
Yeah.

1048
01:08:25,436 --> 01:08:28,556
So you sparked another thought inside of me.

1049
01:08:28,616 --> 01:08:30,656
And this is something I hatched a plan

1050
01:08:30,656 --> 01:08:32,616
with one of the guys at the meetup.

1051
01:08:32,936 --> 01:08:35,056
So here's something I neglected to mention.

1052
01:08:36,096 --> 01:08:37,556
And I really regret not mentioning.

1053
01:08:37,556 --> 01:08:38,256
The meetup of meetups?

1054
01:08:39,016 --> 01:08:41,976
No. So there is, okay, my meetup.

1055
01:08:42,416 --> 01:08:43,356
At your meetup, okay.

1056
01:08:43,576 --> 01:08:49,596
There's a little company that is headquartered in my town called Vanguard.

1057
01:08:51,296 --> 01:08:58,636
And I've always had these dreams that like some guy in the mailroom is going to come to my meetup and then just start going crazy, orange.

1058
01:08:58,756 --> 01:09:02,236
Like literally one out of every 10 people that live in my town works for Vanguard.

1059
01:09:02,916 --> 01:09:03,876
Something like that.

1060
01:09:03,896 --> 01:09:06,116
Like you can see the parking tags in their car.

1061
01:09:06,116 --> 01:09:07,616
Like it's ubiquitous.

1062
01:09:07,616 --> 01:09:11,936
They all, somewhere along the line, they all, they all seem to work, work for them.

1063
01:09:12,636 --> 01:09:18,736
And like, there's literally nothing I would love more than to find a way to get some of these people to come to my meetup.

1064
01:09:19,356 --> 01:09:22,076
To the point where I would let them talk about shit coins if I had to.

1065
01:09:22,496 --> 01:09:25,956
Like, you know, first for a small time in the pocket.

1066
01:09:26,516 --> 01:09:31,316
But like, so that's because I feel like that would actually make a difference.

1067
01:09:31,316 --> 01:09:41,016
yeah just being out there in the community and and being the bitcoin guy of the community is huge

1068
01:09:41,016 --> 01:09:49,456
i know that's one big thing that rod owns is like he is like completely integrated into the nashville

1069
01:09:49,456 --> 01:09:57,056
local community he knows everybody and then he brings people to the park and then hosts round

1070
01:09:57,056 --> 01:09:59,016
tables with local leaders.

1071
01:09:59,476 --> 01:10:00,676
That's something that's

1072
01:10:00,676 --> 01:10:02,556
really clutch.

1073
01:10:03,456 --> 01:10:04,756
I could see it. He's like the mayor.

1074
01:10:05,776 --> 01:10:06,856
Yeah, he speaks

1075
01:10:06,856 --> 01:10:08,836
to the Bitcoin retards

1076
01:10:08,836 --> 01:10:10,356
and then also to

1077
01:10:10,356 --> 01:10:12,336
the retarded politicians.

1078
01:10:13,436 --> 01:10:13,616
Yeah.

1079
01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:15,996
So he bridges the gap.

1080
01:10:17,736 --> 01:10:18,896
I need to do...

1081
01:10:18,896 --> 01:10:21,076
One of the main reasons

1082
01:10:21,076 --> 01:10:22,956
I started my meetup in my town is because I

1083
01:10:22,956 --> 01:10:24,956
wanted a place for people I talk

1084
01:10:24,956 --> 01:10:25,916
to to send.

1085
01:10:25,916 --> 01:10:30,996
And, you know, when I talk to them about Bitcoin, like, you know, you know, want to learn more, come to my meetup.

1086
01:10:32,196 --> 01:10:40,396
And I've had some degree of participation there, but that's something I probably want to focus more on.

1087
01:10:41,516 --> 01:10:42,976
Dude, I do that all the time.

1088
01:10:43,596 --> 01:10:54,104
I was just getting hay today I had to go get some emergency hay to feed my sheep And while I was picking up the hay they wanted cash right But I was like hey what do you think about Bitcoin

1089
01:10:54,924 --> 01:10:59,424
And they're like, ah, and I was like, well, you know, you don't have to take the Bitcoin today.

1090
01:10:59,544 --> 01:11:01,824
But I run the South Bend, Indiana meetup.

1091
01:11:01,884 --> 01:11:05,884
It's right down the road, you know, I'll let you know and I'll be in touch.

1092
01:11:05,884 --> 01:11:07,004
And they're like, oh, okay.

1093
01:11:07,904 --> 01:11:09,324
And that's how you do it, right?

1094
01:11:09,384 --> 01:11:11,164
You just kind of bring them to the meetup.

1095
01:11:11,164 --> 01:11:13,844
You can't orange pill them on the spot and get them to take your Bitcoin.

1096
01:11:14,624 --> 01:11:16,404
You got to bring them in.

1097
01:11:16,524 --> 01:11:18,184
So it sounds like Rod's bringing them in.

1098
01:11:19,244 --> 01:11:21,204
Fundamentals, you got to work on bringing them in, huh?

1099
01:11:21,565 --> 01:11:21,944
You're right.

1100
01:11:22,344 --> 01:11:28,864
I'm waiting to hear a podcast where somebody says their origin story was a hay transaction.

1101
01:11:32,964 --> 01:11:33,864
It will happen.

1102
01:11:34,104 --> 01:11:35,164
I'll make it happen.

1103
01:11:35,164 --> 01:11:42,584
so um i think we're about the point in the uh in the recording here that we'll probably start

1104
01:11:42,584 --> 01:11:48,804
switching over to start talking about some boosts uh from our last episode but um and maybe while

1105
01:11:48,804 --> 01:11:55,204
rev pulls that up on his phone i'll speak for a minute here and and you know you know maybe

1106
01:11:55,204 --> 01:12:01,784
maybe there's some other podcasters listening who have a podcast and are also on nostr

1107
01:12:01,784 --> 01:12:09,984
we put together or I guess I put together vibe coded so to speak a our own custom boost bot

1108
01:12:09,984 --> 01:12:15,964
and so one of the things that happens is if you boost the show from fountain or from any

1109
01:12:15,964 --> 01:12:21,684
podcasting 2.0 app those sets end up on my lightning node and from my lightning node

1110
01:12:21,684 --> 01:12:28,624
I can pull that data off of my node and post it as an astronaut and we can do things we can do

1111
01:12:28,624 --> 01:12:33,964
cool things like we can tag the person who sent it um if they did it through fountain at least

1112
01:12:33,964 --> 01:12:40,404
because we can get their end pub from there and um it ends up creating kind of a cool thing where

1113
01:12:40,404 --> 01:12:45,164
we now have like this mega thread of all the boosts that we get across all the different

1114
01:12:45,164 --> 01:12:50,384
podcast episodes and they all come in in kind of chronological order and it's cool because you get

1115
01:12:50,384 --> 01:12:55,304
tagged in the note and it gets it lets everybody know that we have this nostor account that you can

1116
01:12:55,304 --> 01:13:01,304
interact with and stuff. So, um, plus it makes our job easier because it organizes all the boosts

1117
01:13:01,304 --> 01:13:08,324
for us and, um, it doesn't truncate the notes like they happens in fountain quite a bit. So,

1118
01:13:08,324 --> 01:13:14,924
um, so yeah, I just like to advertise that a little bit, but Rev, you got those things

1119
01:13:14,924 --> 01:13:21,904
queued up or what? I got the boost queued up, but before I want to read the boosts,

1120
01:13:21,904 --> 01:13:24,004
I want to talk about the key takeaways.

1121
01:13:25,244 --> 01:13:27,184
I think for me, I'll start.

1122
01:13:27,184 --> 01:13:31,244
The key takeaway is that the grassroots event is like,

1123
01:13:31,824 --> 01:13:36,124
it represents the energy that Bitcoin Park is trying to create, right?

1124
01:13:36,444 --> 01:13:37,404
Trying to draw this.

1125
01:13:37,504 --> 01:13:39,324
Like when you're there, you feel this buzz.

1126
01:13:39,784 --> 01:13:43,484
And I think that buzz comes from the actual impact.

1127
01:13:43,844 --> 01:13:45,104
This is very impactful.

1128
01:13:45,524 --> 01:13:50,884
When you trade the best practices amongst each other from meetup organizers

1129
01:13:50,884 --> 01:13:55,704
and propagate it, the meetups just get hardened and hardened and hardened.

1130
01:13:56,344 --> 01:13:57,884
The whole thing gets stronger.

1131
01:13:58,724 --> 01:14:01,524
And I think that feeling is palpable there,

1132
01:14:01,584 --> 01:14:03,664
that you're like actually participating in this.

1133
01:14:03,924 --> 01:14:05,144
You know, you're making it happen.

1134
01:14:07,544 --> 01:14:09,124
And so I got that vibe.

1135
01:14:10,264 --> 01:14:11,824
Fundamentals, what did you think?

1136
01:14:15,324 --> 01:14:16,264
I mean, yeah.

1137
01:14:16,264 --> 01:14:25,344
I mean, it's, you know, you just made me think of something else too, which is so like, yeah, there's such a unity.

1138
01:14:26,444 --> 01:14:28,664
Running a meetup is a unifying experience.

1139
01:14:29,065 --> 01:14:31,184
And it's like everybody goes through the same things.

1140
01:14:31,264 --> 01:14:32,304
We care that people come.

1141
01:14:32,404 --> 01:14:33,364
We care that they learn.

1142
01:14:33,464 --> 01:14:34,644
We care they learn the right way.

1143
01:14:34,704 --> 01:14:35,924
And it's a real grind.

1144
01:14:36,464 --> 01:14:39,624
But it's like one of those like labors of love we all have.

1145
01:14:39,624 --> 01:14:47,664
I was also thinking Bitcoin Park should have a similar conference for love of the game podcasters.

1146
01:14:48,204 --> 01:14:51,804
It's a very like who are on a similar mission to educate.

1147
01:14:52,324 --> 01:14:56,024
And, you know, I'm not saying go do that.

1148
01:14:56,565 --> 01:15:05,324
I'm drawing an analogy to I think it's just something similar that I feel when I am with my fellow podcasters, which happens at some of these conferences as well.

1149
01:15:05,324 --> 01:15:14,544
It's like, you know, when I met Reed and we like crossed the Venn diagram twice because now I understand him as a podcaster and a meetup organizer.

1150
01:15:16,824 --> 01:15:19,984
And I would recommend all these meetup organizers start podcasts.

1151
01:15:20,065 --> 01:15:20,604
I'm not joking.

1152
01:15:20,824 --> 01:15:22,644
Like they should they should do that.

1153
01:15:23,404 --> 01:15:28,624
I think it's first of all, I think it's one of the ways I maintain order in my podcast.

1154
01:15:28,624 --> 01:15:35,004
I think that people don't want me talking shit about and complaining about them on my podcast.

1155
01:15:35,324 --> 01:15:44,084
You know, but besides the fact, it's like, it's putting yourself out, putting yourself out there.

1156
01:15:44,224 --> 01:15:47,384
And that's the most effective people that I met.

1157
01:15:47,764 --> 01:15:51,324
I'm not saying they had podcasts or not, but they're good at putting themselves out there.

1158
01:15:51,324 --> 01:15:55,824
They don't, you know, they get a microphone and they don't hesitate to share themselves.

1159
01:15:56,204 --> 01:16:01,164
And there's very little in between themselves and the person they're communicating with.

1160
01:16:01,164 --> 01:16:09,904
and that was it was a pleasure to be around that for two days so yes I was like depressed the second

1161
01:16:09,904 --> 01:16:19,224
it ended yeah my uh I think my key takeaway at least from grassroots is maybe similar to last

1162
01:16:19,224 --> 01:16:27,324
year which is it really starts to make me appreciate you know the power that can come

1163
01:16:27,324 --> 01:16:32,504
from just a little bit of communication, right?

1164
01:16:32,664 --> 01:16:35,764
Let's like, we're all, we are very decentralized

1165
01:16:35,764 --> 01:16:38,984
and that is our superpower.

1166
01:16:41,044 --> 01:16:44,804
You know, however, it really moves the needle

1167
01:16:44,804 --> 01:16:47,104
when you can come together specifically in person.

1168
01:16:47,764 --> 01:16:50,404
And that's because that's what we do at the meetups, right?

1169
01:16:50,424 --> 01:16:53,264
We're always preaching how coming together in person

1170
01:16:53,264 --> 01:16:56,984
hits different and you're able to look somebody in the eye

1171
01:16:56,984 --> 01:17:01,524
and you can take what they're saying, you know, not just more seriously,

1172
01:17:01,524 --> 01:17:03,744
you can kind of understand where they're coming from.

1173
01:17:04,584 --> 01:17:07,764
And I think getting all those meetup organizers in one place

1174
01:17:07,764 --> 01:17:10,984
and getting to hear everybody tell all the stuff that they're doing,

1175
01:17:11,664 --> 01:17:15,004
you know, not only does it give every other meetup organizer

1176
01:17:15,004 --> 01:17:20,744
all these great ideas, it's also like just hugely motivating

1177
01:17:20,744 --> 01:17:25,444
like as a Bitcoin meetup organizer, especially we're kind of in like

1178
01:17:25,444 --> 01:17:30,664
this weird bear market and like, I don't know, maybe some places have meetup numbers that

1179
01:17:30,664 --> 01:17:31,664
aren't going super well.

1180
01:17:32,544 --> 01:17:38,884
Coming together and watching the energy in that room, it really, it's just a huge, a huge

1181
01:17:38,884 --> 01:17:39,304
boost.

1182
01:17:41,344 --> 01:17:46,044
So that, you know, that's one of the reasons why I always am going to make sure that I

1183
01:17:46,044 --> 01:17:52,104
try to make, you know, grassroots Bitcoin one of my main destinations that I'm willing

1184
01:17:52,104 --> 01:17:52,864
to travel to.

1185
01:17:55,444 --> 01:18:14,404
Yeah, and I'll just close it out by just saying, yeah, we're all on the same mission too. And this brings us all together. And we're those revolutionaries in a tavern that are trying to just fight for freedom and Bitcoin. And it's awesome.

1186
01:18:14,404 --> 01:18:19,065
So it's like bringing everyone together, sharing ideas.

1187
01:18:19,204 --> 01:18:20,924
That just compounds on each other.

1188
01:18:21,484 --> 01:18:23,404
And then we get the network grows.

1189
01:18:24,084 --> 01:18:25,724
And yeah, that's how we win.

1190
01:18:26,484 --> 01:18:27,844
So it was awesome.

1191
01:18:28,524 --> 01:18:28,684
Yeah.

1192
01:18:28,964 --> 01:18:29,204
Yeah.

1193
01:18:29,284 --> 01:18:30,704
They're like nonviolent militias.

1194
01:18:30,824 --> 01:18:31,744
That's what I feel like we are.

1195
01:18:31,744 --> 01:18:33,424
We're militia leaders.

1196
01:18:34,104 --> 01:18:34,184
Yeah.

1197
01:18:34,304 --> 01:18:35,404
Yeah, exactly.

1198
01:18:36,284 --> 01:18:40,144
We're exercising our freedom to the fullest extent.

1199
01:18:41,724 --> 01:18:42,604
All right.

1200
01:18:42,604 --> 01:18:44,404
So I'm going to get started with the boosts.

1201
01:18:45,344 --> 01:18:47,244
And we got Matthew D.

1202
01:18:48,065 --> 01:18:49,964
Matthew D has been boosting every episode.

1203
01:18:50,104 --> 01:18:51,065
Thanks a lot, Matthew D.

1204
01:18:51,744 --> 01:18:58,065
And he says, Tuesday, April 21st, 5.30 p.m., Lansing Builders Exchange.

1205
01:18:58,364 --> 01:19:03,065
I'll be talking about why fiat money ruins the environment and how Bitcoin fixes this.

1206
01:19:04,065 --> 01:19:06,944
Well, also, Matthew D, I get my soap from Matthew D.

1207
01:19:07,264 --> 01:19:08,844
He's got White Paper Soap Company.

1208
01:19:09,684 --> 01:19:10,304
Check it out.

1209
01:19:10,304 --> 01:19:13,124
next we got Stacy

1210
01:19:13,124 --> 01:19:15,884
sorry I assume he's a Lake Satoshi attendee

1211
01:19:15,884 --> 01:19:16,704
yes yes

1212
01:19:16,704 --> 01:19:18,824
you're not allowed to wash

1213
01:19:18,824 --> 01:19:20,824
your body in the lake

1214
01:19:20,824 --> 01:19:23,544
with anything other than Matthew D's soap

1215
01:19:23,544 --> 01:19:24,764
at Lake Satoshi

1216
01:19:24,764 --> 01:19:27,764
that's just how it goes

1217
01:19:27,764 --> 01:19:29,065
forward to seeing you Matthew D

1218
01:19:29,065 --> 01:19:30,284
look forward to seeing you this year

1219
01:19:30,284 --> 01:19:33,704
next we got a boost from Stacy

1220
01:19:33,704 --> 01:19:34,844
she says

1221
01:19:34,844 --> 01:19:36,364
great episode

1222
01:19:36,364 --> 01:19:38,744
loving the Bitcoin meetup farmers market

1223
01:19:38,744 --> 01:19:48,504
And so Stacy has got a podcast called The Bitcoin Nova, and she attends a meetup that I frequently attend.

1224
01:19:48,624 --> 01:19:52,964
And so it's cool that Stacy's coming in and saying what's up.

1225
01:19:53,164 --> 01:19:54,624
Check out Bitcoin Nova podcast.

1226
01:19:56,105 --> 01:20:00,084
Next, we got God's Death, and he says, thank you, gentlemen.

1227
01:20:00,844 --> 01:20:01,884
Well, thank you, God's Death.

1228
01:20:01,924 --> 01:20:03,224
You've been hitting us up every episode.

1229
01:20:03,804 --> 01:20:04,565
Appreciate it, man.

1230
01:20:05,004 --> 01:20:06,884
By the way, God's Death is in my meetup.

1231
01:20:07,105 --> 01:20:08,544
He's one of my meetup attendees.

1232
01:20:08,744 --> 01:20:09,544
There you go.

1233
01:20:10,264 --> 01:20:10,824
Small world.

1234
01:20:10,824 --> 01:20:12,264
I did not know that.

1235
01:20:13,684 --> 01:20:16,384
We'll probably meet you in person someday, God's death.

1236
01:20:18,384 --> 01:20:20,565
Next we got Dan Wedge.

1237
01:20:20,744 --> 01:20:22,044
He says, pure signal.

1238
01:20:22,664 --> 01:20:25,884
This needs to be in your first 10 hours, 40 HPW.

1239
01:20:26,624 --> 01:20:27,084
All right.

1240
01:20:27,804 --> 01:20:28,484
Pressure's on.

1241
01:20:28,684 --> 01:20:29,424
We got to deliver.

1242
01:20:30,284 --> 01:20:31,504
Wedge, we're there for you, man.

1243
01:20:31,944 --> 01:20:32,464
Thanks, dude.

1244
01:20:33,684 --> 01:20:35,364
Next we got Bitcoin Gym.

1245
01:20:36,284 --> 01:20:37,444
Great idea for a pod.

1246
01:20:37,565 --> 01:20:38,044
Inspiring.

1247
01:20:38,744 --> 01:20:41,105
And I appreciate that.

1248
01:20:41,264 --> 01:20:52,224
You know, that's the whole goal is to inspire more people to go to the meetups and start meetups and start thinking about meetups as another layer to Bitcoin culture.

1249
01:20:52,384 --> 01:20:53,464
We're a diaspora.

1250
01:20:53,464 --> 01:20:58,784
We need to bring the small groups together and connect with each other regionally.

1251
01:21:01,204 --> 01:21:06,624
And I'll just say, so for that one, so for that boost, that was from back on episode one.

1252
01:21:06,624 --> 01:21:09,204
so another cool thing right

1253
01:21:09,204 --> 01:21:09,484
so yes

1254
01:21:09,484 --> 01:21:10,864
these are all coming in

1255
01:21:10,864 --> 01:21:11,884
from different episodes

1256
01:21:11,884 --> 01:21:14,605
so yeah

1257
01:21:14,605 --> 01:21:15,384
so if you boost

1258
01:21:15,384 --> 01:21:16,284
any of the episodes

1259
01:21:16,284 --> 01:21:17,044
we're going to read it

1260
01:21:17,044 --> 01:21:17,924
on the next show

1261
01:21:17,924 --> 01:21:20,044
and since I

1262
01:21:20,044 --> 01:21:20,924
I got you to pause

1263
01:21:20,924 --> 01:21:21,424
for a second

1264
01:21:21,424 --> 01:21:22,504
you skipped over one

1265
01:21:22,504 --> 01:21:24,164
right after Matthew D

1266
01:21:24,164 --> 01:21:25,224
was Boomer

1267
01:21:25,224 --> 01:21:27,664
Boomer boosted

1268
01:21:27,664 --> 01:21:27,924
Boomer

1269
01:21:27,924 --> 01:21:30,344
another great episode

1270
01:21:30,344 --> 01:21:32,744
to all Canadian

1271
01:21:32,744 --> 01:21:33,984
Bitcoin meetup organizers

1272
01:21:33,984 --> 01:21:35,804
Toanne

1273
01:21:35,804 --> 01:21:38,824
from 256 Heat is trying to get in contact

1274
01:21:38,824 --> 01:21:41,044
with all the meetups from Windsor and Ottawa.

1275
01:21:41,684 --> 01:21:44,464
He's hoping to do a tour, sell his newest home miner,

1276
01:21:45,084 --> 01:21:46,724
send me a DM for more information,

1277
01:21:47,304 --> 01:21:48,804
or to get in contact with...

1278
01:21:49,864 --> 01:21:50,264
Twain?

1279
01:21:50,544 --> 01:21:50,844
Twain?

1280
01:21:51,384 --> 01:21:54,584
His name's Twan, and he's a great guy.

1281
01:21:54,724 --> 01:21:58,724
I got to know him in Canada last October.

1282
01:21:59,824 --> 01:22:01,664
Boomer's one of my best friends in the space.

1283
01:22:01,964 --> 01:22:03,204
Great meetup organizer.

1284
01:22:03,204 --> 01:22:05,324
Runs the Ottawa...

1285
01:22:05,804 --> 01:22:07,084
the Ottawa meetup.

1286
01:22:07,464 --> 01:22:08,824
I think they meet twice a month.

1287
01:22:09,944 --> 01:22:12,944
And these are incredible people.

1288
01:22:14,184 --> 01:22:15,944
Boomer was on episode three.

1289
01:22:16,224 --> 01:22:16,544
Yeah, yeah.

1290
01:22:16,984 --> 01:22:21,644
And so Tuan is in all these minor chats.

1291
01:22:21,884 --> 01:22:23,704
He's in all these minor group chats I'm in.

1292
01:22:24,164 --> 01:22:26,244
And that dude shares pictures of his setups,

1293
01:22:26,244 --> 01:22:27,144
and they're beautiful.

1294
01:22:27,804 --> 01:22:30,664
I'm, like, envious of what that dude can accomplish.

1295
01:22:31,824 --> 01:22:34,565
And so, yeah, Tuan is definitely the dude to go to

1296
01:22:34,565 --> 01:22:37,644
if you want to get hooked up with some sick stuff.

1297
01:22:39,164 --> 01:22:39,684
Sorry.

1298
01:22:40,184 --> 01:22:43,664
So double-check me because this might just be a Noster thing

1299
01:22:43,664 --> 01:22:48,224
where it didn't load all of the boosts in order or something,

1300
01:22:48,344 --> 01:22:49,544
like the comments in order.

1301
01:22:49,684 --> 01:22:50,044
I don't know.

1302
01:22:50,484 --> 01:22:52,884
I don't see that boost.

1303
01:22:54,105 --> 01:22:54,944
We'll keep going.

1304
01:22:55,324 --> 01:22:55,544
Perfect.

1305
01:22:56,304 --> 01:22:56,464
Yep.

1306
01:22:57,324 --> 01:22:59,464
Are you sure you don't block Boomer on Noster?

1307
01:23:00,264 --> 01:23:01,444
No, definitely not.

1308
01:23:02,184 --> 01:23:04,004
No, Boomer's got a new podcast too.

1309
01:23:04,565 --> 01:23:09,065
the 49th parallel with business and business guy.

1310
01:23:09,224 --> 01:23:10,484
I've been digging that dude.

1311
01:23:10,804 --> 01:23:11,304
That's a,

1312
01:23:11,384 --> 01:23:13,024
that's an interesting show.

1313
01:23:13,164 --> 01:23:15,044
Good entropy in your 40 hours per week.

1314
01:23:15,464 --> 01:23:16,344
Check it out.

1315
01:23:17,684 --> 01:23:20,424
Finally took the advice and started a podcast.

1316
01:23:20,684 --> 01:23:21,244
He needed to.

1317
01:23:21,644 --> 01:23:21,844
Yeah.

1318
01:23:22,024 --> 01:23:22,424
Oh yeah.

1319
01:23:23,904 --> 01:23:25,004
Next we got tigs.

1320
01:23:25,404 --> 01:23:27,124
Tigs is a corny chat homie.

1321
01:23:27,764 --> 01:23:28,884
And he says,

1322
01:23:28,984 --> 01:23:29,824
great stuff.

1323
01:23:29,904 --> 01:23:31,264
Don't stop this awesome train.

1324
01:23:31,264 --> 01:23:39,464
and that was from the Jersey Meetup show, episode two.

1325
01:23:40,684 --> 01:23:41,664
What number is this?

1326
01:23:42,024 --> 01:23:43,024
What number podcast?

1327
01:23:44,524 --> 01:23:45,484
This will be number six.

1328
01:23:46,284 --> 01:23:48,084
Yeah, this is number six, gotcha.

1329
01:23:49,204 --> 01:23:51,284
Next we got Shadrach A to B.

1330
01:23:52,065 --> 01:23:59,144
Shadrach is doing a new thing with the Veritas Paznia Radio Network.

1331
01:23:59,144 --> 01:24:03,124
I don't know what the frequency is, but he's doing a new show over there.

1332
01:24:03,144 --> 01:24:03,904
You should check it out.

1333
01:24:05,544 --> 01:24:07,444
I should check out his episode with Gigi.

1334
01:24:07,844 --> 01:24:11,304
He's just a great banger with Gigi over in Madeira.

1335
01:24:11,684 --> 01:24:13,224
No Solutions Podcast, right?

1336
01:24:14,024 --> 01:24:14,244
Yep.

1337
01:24:14,984 --> 01:24:15,804
Yeah, check that out.

1338
01:24:16,324 --> 01:24:20,964
He's such a key person, by the way, in all of, I feel like, our meetup culture.

1339
01:24:21,864 --> 01:24:27,084
And the stuff he's working on is going to make meetup culture

1340
01:24:27,084 --> 01:24:29,844
like 20x better.

1341
01:24:30,644 --> 01:24:32,844
Yeah, he's like a spider spinning a web,

1342
01:24:33,024 --> 01:24:35,144
connecting with his little connections,

1343
01:24:35,784 --> 01:24:37,304
all of this stuff everywhere.

1344
01:24:37,964 --> 01:24:40,244
He just goes all around and he's like,

1345
01:24:40,304 --> 01:24:41,984
you didn't know about these people over here.

1346
01:24:42,164 --> 01:24:43,644
You should know about these people.

1347
01:24:43,824 --> 01:24:44,144
It's great.

1348
01:24:46,144 --> 01:24:47,304
Thank you, Shadrack.

1349
01:24:48,964 --> 01:24:50,565
Next, we got Otis Bittmeier.

1350
01:24:51,364 --> 01:24:51,924
He says,

1351
01:24:52,644 --> 01:24:54,464
Augie is an inspiration for pioneers

1352
01:24:54,464 --> 01:24:56,605
building on the intellectual Silk Road.

1353
01:24:57,084 --> 01:25:03,464
The Southwest Michigan meetup occurs third Thursday of each month at Dwellers Co-Working Space in Benton Harbor, Michigan.

1354
01:25:04,024 --> 01:25:15,584
Join Rev. Hodel and me and a bunch of other quality humans in our quest to build our little corner of the meshedal through inspiring conversations, trade of goods and services, and collective cooperation.

1355
01:25:15,584 --> 01:25:21,544
And that was from the most recent episode with Augie, episode five.

1356
01:25:21,544 --> 01:25:24,204
can I just say

1357
01:25:24,204 --> 01:25:25,044
one of the

1358
01:25:25,044 --> 01:25:26,164
like remember I said that

1359
01:25:26,164 --> 01:25:27,784
it felt so welcoming

1360
01:25:27,784 --> 01:25:28,684
at Bitcoin Park

1361
01:25:28,684 --> 01:25:30,964
just seeing Otis Bittmeier

1362
01:25:30,964 --> 01:25:33,164
post it note

1363
01:25:33,164 --> 01:25:34,844
on the iced coffee urn

1364
01:25:34,844 --> 01:25:37,984
it made me feel so good

1365
01:25:37,984 --> 01:25:38,565
and I texted

1366
01:25:38,565 --> 01:25:39,684
sent it to Otis

1367
01:25:39,684 --> 01:25:40,964
I was like how great is that

1368
01:25:40,964 --> 01:25:41,464
you know

1369
01:25:41,464 --> 01:25:42,724
and it was just beautiful

1370
01:25:42,724 --> 01:25:45,544
we do save all of Otis's notes

1371
01:25:45,544 --> 01:25:47,044
that he gives

1372
01:25:47,044 --> 01:25:48,264
so I appreciate it

1373
01:25:48,264 --> 01:25:48,964
love the coffee

1374
01:25:48,964 --> 01:25:49,804
love the notes

1375
01:25:51,544 --> 01:25:52,864
Yeah, so Otis is...

1376
01:25:52,864 --> 01:25:57,164
We have Sound Coffee podcast with the last episode we had was with Reed and Rev.

1377
01:25:57,864 --> 01:25:59,944
Yeah, if you want to hear us hang out some more,

1378
01:26:00,644 --> 01:26:02,684
talk about coffee and cool stuff like that.

1379
01:26:03,264 --> 01:26:05,904
I mean, if you're a meetup at Ficcinato, we talked a lot.

1380
01:26:05,904 --> 01:26:10,324
I mean, I'd say that is loaded with deep cuts on meetups.

1381
01:26:13,224 --> 01:26:14,724
It's a bonus episode.

1382
01:26:17,464 --> 01:26:20,404
Anyways, so we got this one.

1383
01:26:21,544 --> 01:26:24,884
Oh, so Jordy just says first, thanks for the show.

1384
01:26:24,964 --> 01:26:27,184
But Jordy's going to have another boost that's later on

1385
01:26:27,184 --> 01:26:29,605
that's got some really important information.

1386
01:26:31,004 --> 01:26:32,344
Next, we got Jim Seifert.

1387
01:26:32,664 --> 01:26:34,324
Finally getting around to listening to your show.

1388
01:26:34,404 --> 01:26:34,924
Good stuff.

1389
01:26:35,344 --> 01:26:35,864
Thanks, Jim.

1390
01:26:35,984 --> 01:26:37,044
Jim is a Noster, homie.

1391
01:26:37,605 --> 01:26:38,544
Jim hangs out on Noster.

1392
01:26:39,544 --> 01:26:41,184
Look for Jim Seifert on Noster.

1393
01:26:43,384 --> 01:26:44,984
Next, we got We All Eat.

1394
01:26:45,884 --> 01:26:46,544
Oh, man.

1395
01:26:46,804 --> 01:26:48,284
The good old homie, We All Eat.

1396
01:26:48,284 --> 01:26:52,984
He says, LFG, get out and go to your local meetup.

1397
01:26:53,684 --> 01:26:55,284
Find a meetup when you travel.

1398
01:26:55,644 --> 01:26:58,304
Can't wait to see a fellow's at Lake Satoshi in a few months.

1399
01:26:59,424 --> 01:27:00,764
And neither can I, man.

1400
01:27:00,784 --> 01:27:03,204
I can't wait to see We All Eat at Lake Satoshi.

1401
01:27:04,144 --> 01:27:04,565
Hell yeah.

1402
01:27:04,904 --> 01:27:05,244
Hell yeah.

1403
01:27:05,464 --> 01:27:10,605
You know, just incidentally, my kids after Lake Satoshi last year,

1404
01:27:10,804 --> 01:27:15,004
they said their two favorite people were We All Eat and Bubba.

1405
01:27:16,684 --> 01:27:17,404
Like, wow.

1406
01:27:17,404 --> 01:27:19,664
So can't wait to see you, buddy.

1407
01:27:21,904 --> 01:27:26,844
Okay, now we got Jordy again, and this is the good boost.

1408
01:27:27,444 --> 01:27:29,924
He says, check out my Bitcoin events map.

1409
01:27:30,184 --> 01:27:32,664
I'm keeping track of not only the Bitcoin conferences,

1410
01:27:33,204 --> 01:27:35,124
there are other directories going on the same,

1411
01:27:35,664 --> 01:27:37,244
but also Bitcoin meetups.

1412
01:27:37,244 --> 01:27:41,244
I'm aggregating everything I find on Meetup, Luma, Telegram, Signal,

1413
01:27:41,464 --> 01:27:43,984
Setslantis, own websites, et cetera.

1414
01:27:43,984 --> 01:27:51,724
Anyone can submit their event if it's not there, and I'll validate them to avoid spam.

1415
01:27:52,924 --> 01:27:59,984
If you're curious to see what's going on in the world, check it out at btceventsmap.com.

1416
01:28:02,004 --> 01:28:05,484
And so, Jordy was at grassroots, right?

1417
01:28:06,644 --> 01:28:09,244
Yep, he was. All the way from Barcelona, yeah.

1418
01:28:09,244 --> 01:28:13,624
Yeah, he ended up staying the weekend, which was awesome.

1419
01:28:13,984 --> 01:28:16,244
I picked him up from the airport.

1420
01:28:16,565 --> 01:28:17,384
I don't even know why.

1421
01:28:17,504 --> 01:28:19,784
I just got a feeling from the signal group.

1422
01:28:19,884 --> 01:28:20,644
I was like, I'll pick you up.

1423
01:28:22,004 --> 01:28:25,224
Spending time with him was one of the highlights of actually my trip.

1424
01:28:25,344 --> 01:28:27,864
My wife and I got, I think because he stayed,

1425
01:28:28,024 --> 01:28:30,204
and my wife and I stayed a couple extra days,

1426
01:28:30,364 --> 01:28:32,164
and so we were all still in the hotel.

1427
01:28:34,024 --> 01:28:36,565
You know, getting to know him was definitely a highlight.

1428
01:28:38,384 --> 01:28:42,244
Yeah, he's got some really awesome stuff going on in Spain.

1429
01:28:42,244 --> 01:28:46,984
I think it's Barcelona, but it sounds like he's involved in more than just Barcelona.

1430
01:28:48,024 --> 01:28:50,344
And they have a ton of cool stuff going on.

1431
01:28:51,844 --> 01:28:55,065
And plus, he's working on this Atlantis sort of project.

1432
01:28:55,724 --> 01:28:59,565
So he was a great addition to grassroots this year.

1433
01:29:00,184 --> 01:29:01,944
I had a really good time hanging out with him too.

1434
01:29:03,904 --> 01:29:08,164
He had told me that Luma is a Solana product.

1435
01:29:08,164 --> 01:29:11,404
and that's one of the reasons that's like one of their big missions

1436
01:29:11,404 --> 01:29:13,624
is to get people off of Luma.

1437
01:29:15,464 --> 01:29:17,464
I think Pogge just switched to Luma.

1438
01:29:17,824 --> 01:29:19,044
We're going to have to let them know that.

1439
01:29:19,884 --> 01:29:21,904
Yeah, we did.

1440
01:29:22,124 --> 01:29:23,964
I had dinner with Shams last night.

1441
01:29:24,704 --> 01:29:25,004
Gotcha.

1442
01:29:26,684 --> 01:29:28,744
There are reasons why people can use it.

1443
01:29:29,324 --> 01:29:33,164
It's just, you know, so it's going to be a tough road.

1444
01:29:34,504 --> 01:29:37,284
Well, in the meantime, you can skip all of it

1445
01:29:37,284 --> 01:29:41,424
and just find everything in one place at btceventsmap.com.

1446
01:29:41,764 --> 01:29:42,504
Thanks, Jordy.

1447
01:29:43,944 --> 01:29:45,744
All right, we got Stacy again.

1448
01:29:46,704 --> 01:29:48,404
She says, BoostBot megathread.

1449
01:29:48,524 --> 01:29:49,344
How cool is that?

1450
01:29:49,764 --> 01:29:51,644
Love your podcast, learning so much.

1451
01:29:52,264 --> 01:29:53,324
Well, thanks again, Stacy.

1452
01:29:53,964 --> 01:29:56,384
And the BoostBot megathread is pretty cool

1453
01:29:56,384 --> 01:29:58,644
because I'm on it right now reading all the boosts.

1454
01:29:59,124 --> 01:30:02,444
They're all here, except for one, except for Boomer's boost.

1455
01:30:02,444 --> 01:30:04,084
I guess it almost works.

1456
01:30:05,044 --> 01:30:06,144
It was on mine.

1457
01:30:06,284 --> 01:30:07,184
I'm on the same thread.

1458
01:30:07,284 --> 01:30:07,864
on my computer.

1459
01:30:08,024 --> 01:30:08,544
So I saw,

1460
01:30:08,644 --> 01:30:09,404
I saw his booth.

1461
01:30:12,124 --> 01:30:12,524
Okay.

1462
01:30:12,544 --> 01:30:13,744
So I boosted the show.

1463
01:30:15,024 --> 01:30:15,624
And I said,

1464
01:30:15,704 --> 01:30:17,504
Augie's living the local Bitcoiner dream.

1465
01:30:18,105 --> 01:30:19,264
The more I talk with him,

1466
01:30:19,304 --> 01:30:19,984
the more I learn.

1467
01:30:20,344 --> 01:30:21,884
He's got such a diverse set of knowledge,

1468
01:30:22,004 --> 01:30:22,224
skills,

1469
01:30:22,364 --> 01:30:22,804
relationships,

1470
01:30:22,984 --> 01:30:23,444
and products.

1471
01:30:23,524 --> 01:30:24,384
He's trying it all.

1472
01:30:24,464 --> 01:30:26,964
And he's tying it all together with local Bitcoin cultures app.

1473
01:30:26,964 --> 01:30:28,584
And yeah,

1474
01:30:28,605 --> 01:30:30,504
I just wanted to thank Augie for coming on.

1475
01:30:30,844 --> 01:30:33,164
And if you hadn't listened to episode five,

1476
01:30:33,364 --> 01:30:33,924
check it out.

1477
01:30:33,984 --> 01:30:36,304
We talk all about the,

1478
01:30:36,304 --> 01:30:36,484
the,

1479
01:30:37,284 --> 01:30:48,884
The integration of circular economies, how meetups can succeed into this integration of circular economies and start cross-aggregating with other meetups in the region.

1480
01:30:51,424 --> 01:31:00,065
I love Augie, and I know that wasn't him boosting, but people should try to get to know him.

1481
01:31:00,065 --> 01:31:08,284
and so we've got uh just two more

1482
01:31:08,284 --> 01:31:17,364
and this one is from bitcoin is for everyone it's uh from may 22nd to may 23rd

1483
01:31:17,364 --> 01:31:26,424
2026 uh the portland group has six meetups a month come check us out and so yeah eric

1484
01:31:26,424 --> 01:31:30,764
is doing six meetups a month in Portland

1485
01:31:30,764 --> 01:31:33,324
in addition to this conference, which is insane.

1486
01:31:34,324 --> 01:31:37,424
And then he's got another one right after that.

1487
01:31:38,044 --> 01:31:42,024
Bitcoin is for everyone, May 22nd to May 23rd, 2026.

1488
01:31:42,704 --> 01:31:44,884
Join us for the largest Bitcoin-only conference

1489
01:31:44,884 --> 01:31:46,204
on the West Coast.

1490
01:31:46,804 --> 01:31:49,684
Bitcoin is for everyone, May 22nd to May 23rd.

1491
01:31:49,684 --> 01:31:52,664
Pizza Day weekend in Portland, Oregon.

1492
01:31:53,084 --> 01:31:54,584
Bitcoinisforeveryone.com.

1493
01:31:54,764 --> 01:31:56,044
Use this discount code.

1494
01:31:56,424 --> 01:31:59,424
Noster Insider for 21% off.

1495
01:31:59,544 --> 01:32:01,504
Noster Insider for 21% off.

1496
01:32:01,565 --> 01:32:02,244
There you go, guys.

1497
01:32:02,544 --> 01:32:03,444
That's a steep discount.

1498
01:32:05,124 --> 01:32:06,044
So check it out.

1499
01:32:07,464 --> 01:32:09,804
Like I said, I said it on the last episode.

1500
01:32:09,884 --> 01:32:10,584
He boosted the last two.

1501
01:32:10,984 --> 01:32:16,624
It really looked like an awesome conference from what I saw from last year.

1502
01:32:16,824 --> 01:32:19,404
And I would assume it's going to be great again this year.

1503
01:32:20,084 --> 01:32:23,364
Dude, it's got to be hard being a Bitcoiner in Portland, Oregon.

1504
01:32:23,964 --> 01:32:25,984
And, I mean, it was great meeting him at the conference.

1505
01:32:26,424 --> 01:32:27,744
Great getting to know him.

1506
01:32:28,105 --> 01:32:33,504
But I have extra respect for people who really hunker down in enemy territory.

1507
01:32:35,964 --> 01:32:39,824
Six meetups a month in Portland is remarkable.

1508
01:32:41,544 --> 01:32:42,644
Kicking ass.

1509
01:32:43,324 --> 01:32:43,984
Building culture.

1510
01:32:45,565 --> 01:32:46,944
Well, that's all the boost.

1511
01:32:47,044 --> 01:32:47,664
Thanks, everyone.

1512
01:32:47,864 --> 01:32:49,065
We really appreciate it.

1513
01:32:49,344 --> 01:32:50,904
So now we've got the boost bot.

1514
01:32:50,904 --> 01:32:54,724
You can boost value for value on any podcasting 2.0 app.

1515
01:32:54,784 --> 01:32:55,964
It doesn't just have to be Fountain.

1516
01:32:56,424 --> 01:33:01,524
And when you do, it will also broadcast your note onto Noster through our end pubs.

1517
01:33:01,524 --> 01:33:05,024
So you're going to get immediate presence for your meetups.

1518
01:33:06,164 --> 01:33:10,964
I think the minimum on fountains, like 100 sats, you know, it doesn't cost a lot.

1519
01:33:11,124 --> 01:33:16,264
It's just the proof of work to participate and showcase that we got meetups going on everywhere.

1520
01:33:18,204 --> 01:33:20,224
Reed, you got anything else before we close it out?

1521
01:33:21,264 --> 01:33:26,324
Yeah, I'll just, you know, say, you know, we really encourage specifically meetup organizers, right?

1522
01:33:26,424 --> 01:33:35,024
Like, you know, this is a great chance for you to get in the habit of, you know, it's another way to get the word out about your about your meetup.

1523
01:33:36,084 --> 01:33:40,864
And, you know, it's you can get the amount of stats is not important.

1524
01:33:41,164 --> 01:33:45,764
We just want to get the message out there that you got a meetup coming up and we want to hear what you got going on.

1525
01:33:45,884 --> 01:33:48,304
So I think I we roll in the outro.

1526
01:33:48,544 --> 01:33:51,224
But, you know, if you do run a meetup, you know, reach out to us.

1527
01:33:51,404 --> 01:33:52,464
We'd love to have you on the pod.

1528
01:33:54,024 --> 01:33:54,584
How about you?

1529
01:33:54,584 --> 01:33:55,584
You got anything else?

1530
01:33:56,424 --> 01:33:58,184
Roll the outro.