You can actually fit all 24 seed words on one single, like one inch titanium or stainless steel washer and nylon.
The neat thing about that is you can put 12 seed words on one side of the washer,
slip that little bugger over and put 12 fake seed words on the back.
No one would ever know which ones are the right ones.
If you had a passphrase on top of this, like it makes this thing nearly bomb proof.
The thing we absolutely need to do as Bitcoiners is to stop being apathetic hodlers,
to stop being price speculators and to start being participants in the network.
Bitcoin, in my opinion, is the most important invention that's ever been created by mankind.
It is the first and only property that's ever existed that cannot be seized by the state.
That changes the rules of the game forever.
It is a shot heard around the world.
People just haven't realized it yet.
23,000 nodes, it's a barrier that can be overcome.
23 million, impossible.
Never, ever, ever happened.
That is freedom money.
That is freedom property for eternity if you get to 23 million nodes.
Whether you pick NOTS or CORE, I don't care.
I really don't.
G'day, legends.
Welcome back to G'day, Bitcoin.
Joining me today is two incredible human beings.
We've got Robin Sayer and Daniel from Microseed and the Robin Sayer podcast.
Gentlemen, how are you doing?
Wonderful.
Thank you so much for having us.
This is an awesome lineup, man.
With you, Sean, and with Daniel, I'm hyped.
Yeah, me too.
Thank you so much, Sean.
It's great that you're doing this, man.
Much appreciation.
It's my pleasure so much.
And just for a little bit of backstory, everyone,
we are going to unbox the micro seed.
So I had Robin on for the latest podcast talking to him.
I'm like, who's the next guest that I should have on?
He's like, you've got to have Daniel on.
So I had Daniel on and we're talking about
showing me the website and everything like this.
I'm like, oh my God, like this is just
one of the most amazing, incredible ways
to be able to stamp your seed
into steel, titanium or nylon.
It's incredible.
I'm like, I'm going to put this up on my website.
I'm going to put it in the links below.
If people do not have their seed, if it's still on paper,
that's a great start.
It's an amazing start.
They're starting to get there, but it has to be on steel minimum,
then titanium.
The nylon for border pass and stuff, I think they'll talk about that.
But I was like, this is just incredible.
But what's so unique that I've never seen before is not one word
per washer. And what this does is we'll show and we'll unbox this thing very shortly. And correct
me if I'm wrong, gentlemen, but on one washer, you can get all 24 seed words and it can be steel,
titanium or nylon, which is absolutely incredible. Anything you want to add before we start to
unbox this? And like, I've been waiting for this thing. I've had it for like two or three weeks.
I'm like, let's go, gentlemen. Yeah, no, I mean, you summed it up really well. Thank you. It's a
It's a great way to introduce the micro seed that you're spot on.
You can actually fit all 24 seed words on one single,
like one-inch titanium or stainless steel washer and nylon.
But yeah, we can definitely get into what all these things are about
and where they come from and why we kind of came up with that solution for it.
But yeah, totally selfish invention.
And it's precisely for what you're talking about.
Get the whole thing, get it off paper,
because that really gives us a legitimate stomachache.
And especially I feel like also for the Bitcoin power users,
is really nice that you have,
you don't buy the plate
where you can put it on,
you buy kind of device
and with the device you buy it once
and you can just put it on
as many washers as you want.
I mean, those washers
you can obviously buy from our shop,
but you can just go in a store
and pick it up for like,
I don't know, 10 cents, 50 cents, whatever.
And just get those out
and like get it on.
And this is kind of, for me,
the main feature that actually sold me
of like, oh, I don't have to get out.
If my seed frisk gets compromised, my dad makes a picture of it or whatever.
I don't have to pay another thing.
And so I just have the micro seed and have it here and can stand beret.
Awesome. Let me just grab something.
Yeah, of course.
So these are like titanium steel plates.
They're pretty big.
In Australian dollars, I think they're either like $60 or $90.
Sometimes the cheaper ones go out of stock.
It is titanium.
If I've got someone and I'm just showing them, I'll give them one of these.
It's not something that I use myself.
It's just a little bit too big.
But it's like a good start because most people, they just put it on paper.
And I'm like, you're dealing with like hundreds of thousands of dollars
or tens of thousands of dollars or something.
What happens if you have a house fire?
What happens if your roof leaks or whatever happens?
And they're like, oh, it's all right.
like i can just put my password again i'm like this is your password like it has to be
on the steel like no you can't keep it on paper so i'll give them these as a bit of a gift to be
able to do it but i think instead of spending 60 to 90 per person out of my own goodwill to be able
to give them a washer i think that's pretty incredible oh yeah for sure i mean you could
literally just like have a little stamping party you know just have some beers and just go hey man
you want to stamp your seed phrase, just back it up right there.
And, you know, I mean, it's nice.
It's a little community building thing.
And it's not like every person in the world has to buy a micro seed.
Like you can share, you can help other people out, you know?
And like you said, rather than spending 90 bucks, like you can just go,
hey, dude, like stop by the big box, you know,
home improvement store on the way over and we'll stamp you out a wallet
for every kid you got.
It doesn't matter.
You know, it just takes 10, 15 minutes.
Super easy.
I am so keen to open this.
like I've been waiting like a kid at Christmas as it's coming up.
But just before we do, one thing that I was thinking about last night
is say you stamp the 24 words and you load in, you know,
like 10 million satoshis onto it or whatever.
On the other side of the washer, you could write that.
And if you're in a place or whatever, you could just literally hand that over
to them, they can plug it into their phone, they've got the words there,
they can transfer it to another wallet.
But say there is no internet or anything like that.
Yes, it's a little bit of trust me, bro.
You know, within Bitcoin, we say don't trust, verify.
But if you've got a good relationship and stuff, you know,
you could just hand them that token.
You could give them that little washer.
And, you know, that really turns Bitcoin from digital gold
back into physical gold in a way.
I was just thinking about that last night.
I was like, oh, this is so cool.
But gentlemen, if you don't mind, I've been waiting so long
Can we start to rip it?
Yeah, absolutely.
These scissors, Stanley, stainless steel scissors,
they're absolutely insane.
They're lethal.
That's awesome.
They like, in Australia and Melbourne, Victoria,
or in Victoria in general, it's a state they ban machetes.
I'm like, what are they going to do?
They're going to go ban hammers, scissors, pocket knives,
everything like that.
Instead of addressing the problem,
and they just like come in with these reactions and stuff.
And so I bought these and I'm like, oh, fuck,
they're going to ban scissors like this next, like the greatest tool.
Yeah.
Well, they try to do that in England now, don't they?
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
And like they're taking away guns and everything like that.
And this does relate to Bitcoin because Bitcoin's about like pure freedom
and freedom of choice, freedom of what you do.
And they're like, take all the guns away from the people
that they disagree with.
It's happening in New South Wales, I think,
because of people's beliefs and stuff.
But it's not the people that are causing issues
with whatever type of weapon or they're being delinquent.
They're not buying a legal weapon anyway.
So it makes absolutely no sense.
But let me just hide the invoice in case it has my address.
I've chucked that underneath.
We've got some paper that'll be good for the fire this afternoon.
Hey, dude.
Oh, that's right.
He's chucked a book in.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Is this your book?
Yeah, yeah.
That's the book I wrote.
I put the block height in an autograph for you.
Let's go.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Give it a whirl.
I absolutely love books.
The Great Realightment.
Ladies and gentlemen, I will be reading this probably over the Christmas period, if not,
not before, and I'll do a review.
I love it.
Awesome.
It's a bit of a dense read.
And just for anyone watching, I'm not selling.
I mean, I do sell the book, but that's not my purpose in life.
You can read it for free on Noster.
You can just follow the link from my Twitter handle.
Or you can read it for free on medium.com.
Like I said, I'm not here to pitch books.
It's like information.
It's open access.
It's just if you want to learn more about the history of money,
that's a place to do it.
So, yeah.
But thank you for showing it.
Dude, I love it.
I love books and I love Bitcoin.
and talking to Bitcoin authors and stuff.
That's probably like my most nerdiest thing on this space.
So, ladies and gentlemen, read the books, read the bugs.
We do have it.
We've got the little box here.
The inside box.
We've got more cardboard there as well.
So that's sort of what it looks like.
It's pretty heavy.
What we're talking about in Australia,
there's no import duties or anything like that.
We'll put the links and everything below.
below. You guys gave me a discount code, which we'll put down there for people as well. But you
said you're not here to be able to shill books. Whether you get a micro seed or whatever, just
get your Bitcoin onto steel, titanium or nylon, steel or titanium really. I think the nylon,
we'll talk about the unique use case for that shortly. But I think even more importantly,
and something that we all agree with, everyone, please run a node.
And let's unbox this.
We'll have a look at it.
I want to stamp a seed on it.
But then I want to talk about the nodes because version 13 core
is coming out in two days' time, a timer recording.
It's already out by the time you're watching this video.
And just your thoughts.
But obviously for my two guests, Daniel and Robin,
they can't see what I'm looking at, but the audience will.
so this is the box here
we've got
a crazy little hammer
that's super solid
that's so beautiful actually
that's cool
I think we can even show the progression
because I have the old
with even the old logo
like the golden one
was this the first ever hammer to ship?
well the first ones I started
shipping out they were going to be 2kg
so that yeah that was a little hefty yeah but uh we found that people would kind of overhit the
thing like i think they get used to those big plates and they just smash the hell out of stuff
but you really it's just like a light tap and you'll get a great impression so yeah so we've
kind of reduced the hammer down and it's a neat little hammer it's a cross peen hammer and if
you're not familiar with the cross peens the neat thing about that slope thing on the back is you can
actually use it to start a nail like if you have like a real small like finishing nail you know
Sometimes when you're trying to get them going, you can't.
You flip it over and tip, tip, and then you can just whack away.
So it's got some functionality beyond stamping seed phrases.
Probably not a bad thing to have next to the bed if they take away all your guns.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, it certainly wouldn't feel good.
Cool.
So this is the standard blanket.
We've got one titanium, one nylon, one stainless.
Let's just open everything and look at them one by one.
three stainless my apologies so these are obviously the stainless ones
yeah there we'll stamp one of these on on the show i want to see how easy it is
but that's amazing definitely you can get these at bunnings or that that's probably our version
of home depot i think most people and do you guys ship worldwide yep worldwide so far uh it looks
like India and Brazil might make our ban list, but outside of that, we're pretty much good to go.
We've shipped to United Arab Emirates. I mean, all over the EU, Mexico, Japan, South Korea,
New Zealand, Australia, a lot of folks in Australia. So thank you. Thank you for that.
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What I found with Bitcoin in Australia is people are starting to wake up in general,
but it's like really the critical thinkers, those are like truly awake that see the problem.
But it's such a small minority.
But those Bitcoiners are proper Bitcoiners.
They're Bitcoin maxis.
A lot of them, they're doing everything right.
So one question that I've got is the stainless steel is maybe like a third thinner than the titanium.
Why is that?
It's just a manufacturing thing.
Those titanium washers are actually machined components,
whereas the stainless are stamped out of a big sheet.
So it's a slightly different manufacturing process,
but it also makes the titanium a little bit more durable.
But either one will fit into the micro-seed, no problem.
So, yeah.
Awesome.
And I think this is what I'm the most excited about,
the nylon washer.
Last time, Daniel, when we were talking about it,
just straight away the use case for it clicked.
Obviously, titanium, steel, they're going to show up in x-rays,
metal detectors, everything like that.
I don't know if I would long-term keep my seed on nylon.
I just wouldn't be comfortable with that.
Obviously, it's still better than paper.
But I was like, oh, border passes is absolutely amazing.
You could sew it onto your shirt or the inside of your shirt
or make it look like a button.
And for example, you could put it in this little sleeve in your backpack or whatever.
You could put it anywhere, really.
Like it's this big.
It's this big.
For a little bit of reference, I was going to show the hammer, but well, there we go.
Yeah.
It's a tiny little guy.
It's tiny.
It's small.
Anyway, let's keep...
Well, I'll tell you, we actually had the people from Chain Analysis come by our booth at Bitcoin Vegas last year or earlier this year.
And they had a bunch of like feds with them.
And,
you know,
cause they kind of like a fed adjacent type company Right Uh and these guys came along and they like Oh what are you guys doing here And blah blah blah And I showed them the nylon washer and he like whoa what this all about and i go yeah it nylon you can show up on body scan x metal detection any of it and the guy was
like huh you really you don't can i show this to my colleague and both me and our other partner
fritz were sitting there kind of listening and guys like going no way there's zero chance i could
ever find that dude impossible impossible i was like yeah all right that's what we're talking about
you know oh i can't wait to see some words on any of these washes like 24 words on that that's insane
um question so i've got two of these things people keep asking me about the box that's just to keep
stuff from rattling around in the box and it was like these little crap like dice things so we're
gonna start stamping like little bitcoin logos on them or something but i don't i mean they're just
like you give them to the kids or i don't know brian i burnt that one i was just playing around
with it but um brian d meant the author of bitcoin evangelism phenomenal book in parallel
um with daniel prince and brian d meant bitcoin evangelism when he sent me the um signed copier
parallel um and then i told you i'm nerdy with books i love it um but he sent me some of these
as well so they just sit on the desk and they're the blocks building up um slightly regret not
putting a bitcoin logo on those little phone ones game on gentlemen you can thank brian for
inspiration okay um oh hey that's cool that's crazy we're gonna need this i assume to be able
to read the words yeah oh my god that's one of the things a lot of people would come by and go
man it's so hard to read and i go that's a feature man like 100 that's a feature i've actually put
these things into the little change cup a metal detector like right next to my keys and like you
just drop the washer in there with words on it like not not an actual seed phrase but i just wanted
to see if like security would be like hey why is there a washer in here with work like nothing they
literally it's invisible they just go yeah whatever you know they're looking for a gun they're looking
for a knife they're looking for something like that they're certainly not looking to make sure
that your change is conforming to change right so it's just it's the easiest thing in the world to
to scoot that past like most benign security checkpoints, airport security, whatever.
But if you're really worried about it, one of the neat things about the nylon washers,
we had someone come by the booth and he goes, man, I wish I could have that six months ago.
And apparently he was trying to leave a country where they were forbidding exit.
And they were metal detecting people at the border, right? He was trying to walk across and get out.
And they were metal detecting. They're not looking for seed phrases, obviously.
They're looking for watches. They're going to shake you down before you get out of the country,
basically right you got some gold sewn into your shorts they want to get that off you you got a
rolex on they want that you've got some nice necklaces or whatever they're trying to find that
stuff and weapons and whatever else they can get off of you right uh but you know if you got if
you're trying to get out of the country and you got like a big titanium plate sewn into your shorts
you're gonna go well that might show up you know um but you never know when something like this will
come in handy right so yeah yeah yeah that that's right do you reckon i can get nylon washes locally
as well?
I don't know.
They're kind of a specialty item,
but you can certainly get them online, and you can
certainly find people. They're not
so unheard of that they're impossible
to find.
We're actually going to be offering nylon washers
sometime later this week
that you can buy a six-pack from us or something
and just have it tossed in the box.
But there was a little hiccup
with our supply, so we've
finally got that ironed out, and
those are going to be available pretty soon, too.
So, yeah.
This is, I'm guessing this is the stamp.
Oh, like the jig, I mean.
Yeah, correct.
Correct.
Oh, shit.
There's some serious engineering in this.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Okay, so what am I looking at?
So it comes apart.
Yeah.
And so that top orange piece is the alignment table for the punches.
It just slips into those little holes there.
It takes a second to kind of get lined up.
You'll notice on the top of that, there are two little indents on the top of the table.
One is closer to the middle and one is further away from the middle.
The one that's further away is the outside line of text.
It's going to print a line on the outside of the washer.
And then on the inside, it prints an inside line.
So you end up with 120 characters per side, 240 characters per washer.
You just flip it over.
but you can do a line of text on the outside of the washer and then you flip the table around
and do a line of text on the inside of the washer so it's a straightforward little setup yeah
that's super cool and then you grab one yeah and then you've got dots for reference so that's
obviously the outside this one and this one's the inside there exactly exactly right yeah
and then so this has got a screw i'll go and run and grab a screwdriver um for this that'll take
me two secs but what are all the um markings around the outside so it goes from zero up to 55
well it basically just gives you a reference point like it tells you you can do 60 characters
per line right so like on that outside line you can get 60 characters of text then on the inside
line you can get 60 characters of text so with that uh if you kind of get lost the the biggest
the hardest part about this is like kind of forgetting where you are like you know did i
advance that after I put the letter B
in there? Oh crap, I can't remember.
So if you really had to, you could count up on those
marks, but they're just like a general reference.
It's kind of more to let you know
that you're getting to the end of the washer and that
your next word might be the last word
that you can fit on that line kind of thing.
Cool. So do I have it right?
There's a little screw in this end
and you align that with zero.
Do your first one.
Click it once.
Do another one. And then just
keep going cool yeah and if you want a space between the words you just go two clicks
dude so cool talk about why why you invented it and why you spent some money getting that
engineered um and stuff like that i'll go grab a phillips head screwdriver yeah yeah yeah i mean
and for me in general like i actually invented it and engineered it myself
so i've become like a de facto engineer now but it was a selfish invention right out of the gate
You know, like I, uh, I had a competitor's product and by the time I finished banging
away on it, like I was sitting there on the floor, like a baboon with a hammer and it
was really uncomfortable.
It was kind of difficult to do.
I ended up smacking my hand, which kind of frustrated me.
And, you know, I had a couple of like bad strikes on the plate.
And when I was all done, I kind of looked at it and went, man, this sucks.
Like if I could, what if I have to take this on a plane or what if I have to make another
one or do I have to go online and order like another plate or do I have to do this?
and I remember looking at the DIY solution early on. I just thought, man, this is annoying. I don't
want to carry around a stack of washers. Like I don't want to roll a quarters in my pocket, you
know? And I just had the thought, this fleeting thought of like, man, I wish, I wish someone made
a thing where you could just put all 24 words on one washer. Like I know they make little mini
punches. Like why can't someone just do that? And I looked around, no one was doing it. And I thought,
well, how hard could it be? Right. So like famous last words. And then, you know, about $20,000
with the prototypes later and a whole lot of teaching myself CAD
and just how machine shops operate,
especially overseas machine shops and all that kind of shit.
I ended up with something that was like,
oh, this might actually work.
And so that's kind of where MicroSeat was born.
I don't know how much of that you got to hear, Sean,
but I gave a little overview of kind of where this came from.
I'll be able to hear.
Selfish invention.
That's so awesome.
I'll be able to hear it and listen back.
it'll be a surprise to me when I get the podcast back from the editor.
So what it looks like is, is that a washer already?
Or that's just, I put a washer on top of it.
Yeah, that washer is already set in there for you.
So you can start stamping right away.
Oh, cool.
So I didn't actually need the screwdriver, but just for everyone.
Not yet.
It's easy as.
So just make sure it's stamped down there.
And we've got one more box to be able to open.
and I dare say this is the punches, I'm guessing.
Correct.
Let's, oh, well, in a proper little box, one millimeter.
That's obviously where all the shipping weight comes from
and I dare say the shipping expense.
Yeah, pretty much.
Oh, you got a little tear tag on it.
Let's get that in the rubbish bin, one millimeter.
Holy cow.
i love your reaction to the product it's really cool
that is is freaking tiny oh i was like how the hell am i meant to know what
what they are um but you've made it super easy is on on there right on the front of the punch
there we go zero but if we have a look at that
if it wouldn't be the side one you have no clue what what it is like it's so hard to read this
yeah well which is one of the things that makes it super remarkable i mean the company that makes
those punches is great i am i bet what i want to have a look at is the difference between
so 0 and O
are exactly the same
what about the letter
L and 1
they're all capital letters
oh cool
yeah
they're sort of the two main
confusions so that's
if we can
get it to pick it up
they're just so small
even that
but anyway 1 and everything
are different.
So it's go time.
I've been waiting too long for this gentleman.
Let me find out.
Actually, let me go grab a micro seed myself
so I can kind of work along with you.
Cool.
I'll be right back.
Let's go.
What I'm going to write is I'll figure out the word.
That makes it easy.
The letters on the side, you wouldn't see it otherwise.
Yeah, what I usually like to do is actually when I'm stamping,
I try to lay all my punches out with what is on there facing me,
which then I can really easily grab them.
I can just grab the wood and punch, punch, punch.
And this makes it a lot easier.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing as well,
just laying them out on the table in front of me.
Right now, I'm just looking for the words Bitcoin,
and then we will stamp these two words into it.
I'll need the I again.
Cool.
So, Robin, when I'm doing these,
and that's got the letter on the side,
do I have that letter facing me when I do it?
Yes.
So wherever you have to, if you face the letter T and you put it down like that, it also goes in the same direction facing you there.
So if you look straight towards the micro seed, you put it there.
When you then look on the coin, it also is in the same way, if that makes sense.
Same orientation, yeah.
In the same orientation as you face it.
so how i how i like to do it is uh have it facing me uh and then i just make the words around it
and so then i can put my punch in there also facing me so that for example this would be the t
this is also then facing me and then i just punch it on there yeah i'll give you a pro tip as well
like once you drop the punch in like i can't see it yeah you can't can you see it now yep so once i
drop the punch into the little slot there one of the things i like to do because there still is
some play in here there's a little bit of tolerance in this thing or otherwise the punch wouldn't
slide in i think that i always recommend people do is they kind of put a little finger pressure
like so you slightly pull the punch towards you and that because sometimes if you just let the
punch kind of fly like the letters will be a little janky but if you just kind of give it a
little pressure like they line up real nice it keeps everything pretty stable and pretty centered
There is obviously going to be a little bit of variance there,
but 99.99% of the time you should be able to make out all the words.
Just on that, making out all the words, four letters per word,
the first four letters?
Yeah, you can do the first four letters.
This will fit for most seed phrases unless you pull a bad card
and all 24 of your seed words are eight characters long.
like if you have a pretty good mix of like four character five characters six character eight
character words uh all 12 or all 24 words should fit on a washer fantastic on one side and 12 on
the other but if you need to truncate you can truncate down to six or four and you'll still
be able to recreate the word awesome um i didn't think about it um like i'm not going to put the
numbers but obviously you'd put um one and then the um seed phrase but i'm just going to smash
out this quickly we've got um eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen um
fifteen letters and three two just one hit as well yeah just like it it's literally like
the lightest of tap like oh it's like that is enough like it's literally you don't have to
smash it if you've got it on a nice sturdy table just a little tap and you'll be able to see the
letters like you don't even have to check right now like i'm confident enough that if you just
give it a good little tap and then you'll see the entire word when you're done you won't even have
to double check just make sure you click between uh between letters that's that's the part i always
forget i end up stamping over the top of the letter and go oh you know but sweet yeah let me
smash out um these letters real quick and we'll see how long it takes yeah well while you're
banging away i'll tell folks um one of the things you can do like sean actually mentioned like putting
the number up front in front of the word, you don't actually have to do that because
they're linear text, right?
So as long as you can identify the first word in the string, you know which word is number
one.
And you can do things like you can do a typo in the first word.
You can have a fake first word.
You can put a typo in the second, like second letter denotes the second word.
There's a lot of creativity you can use to make it so even if someone found it, even
if someone discovered and went, oh, hey, wait, this is a seed phrase.
It's still not numbered.
So they'd still have to get through the entropy of trying to figure out the order of those words.
I'm a big fan of Electrum Wallet.
I make a lot of Electrum Wallets just for like little drop wallets or just scooting stuff off.
And that, by default, sends you 12 seed words, right?
Like that's kind of how that wallet gets generated.
You can do more, obviously, but as a kind of stock standard wallet, you get out of Electrum.
The neat thing about that is you can put 12 seed words on one side of the washer,
flip that little bugger over and put 12 fake seed words on the back no one would ever know which
ones are the right ones if you had a passphrase on top of this like it makes this thing nearly
bomb proof so it gives you a lot of options for like kind of tinkering hiding things you know
making it as hard as possible for an adversary to get through and and figure out what it is they've
got on this washer you know so uh this is so cool this is so cool this is awesome that's amazing
I skipped a couple of times when I was doing it.
So like you were saying, I just need to get used to it.
That's crazy.
That is so cool.
That is amazing.
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So many people still hold their 12 or 24 words on paper.
Then they sort of upgrade to something like this This is a titanium version It does hold all 24 words but look how big it is This device this revolutionizes it It changes it It makes it so much more secure
What this does, you can see there's a one-inch washer on there. It comes with these punches
that are almost microscopic. They give you a magnifying glass to be able to see
the end of them because you really can't read what that says. And then they give you
titanium washers nylon washers think about this for x-rays body scanners metal detectors
border passes just around the house with the metal detector one stainless steel as well these
are great for hot wallets the titanium it's going to survive a house fire but this compared to this
look at the size difference to it you could fit eight of these on this one plate yet it still
contains all 24 words imagine how easy that is to be able to hide now the team have given a discount
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weird addictive feeling to it like i i don't know if uh you also had that daniel but like when i
did it the first time i was like oh that's kind of nice actually yeah oh yeah yeah that yeah i'm
not going to be able to zoom in i don't think any better um than that um but it's g'day g'day
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that's freaking amazing i want to keep going
that's uh that's so addictive i feel you robin that's that's freaking awesome
With these plates, when I used to use them originally,
it would take so long to be able to stamp it.
So when people come out now, I'm like, go to the garage,
screw it down, use the engraver, and just get out of here.
Right.
Because especially into that, you'd need to belt it,
like smash it super hard to be able to get them in there consistently.
Yeah, that was my experience too.
That's so crazy.
It drove me nuts, but just a little tap on this thing.
The neat thing about it is now that we've been to three or four conferences showing the micro seed,
and I've probably stamped 300 seed words now, right, or 400.
It's just nonstop stamping.
And the kind of neat thing about it is people go like, hey, well, how long does this thing last?
I'm like, it never even occurred to me to question that, right?
I just keep using the same tool that I've had since I built the very first one.
My first prototype is still the same micro seed I'm using.
And that thing is stamped hundreds of washers for hundreds of people.
So it's a very, very durable tool.
This thing's made out of aircraft grade aluminum.
The center spindle is actually 7075 aluminum.
So it's even harder than most common aluminums.
You know, we spent a lot of time designing this thing and making sure that it works well for people.
And that's going to be durable and something that can last, you know.
But we've had some great people come along like X Stacy sat down.
Her kids were helping her stamp words and a pastor coin.
Same thing as kids kind of helping them do stuff.
But yeah,
you,
you have a lot of options with this and there's a little bit of art and
craft to it.
It takes a little time to kind of get used to it.
But once you get in the groove of it,
like I can literally bang out a seed phrase in less than 10 minutes.
It's pretty astonishing,
you know?
Yeah.
That's so awesome.
I got them back in order as well.
That's,
that's incredible.
I think what I might do as well,
I've got a label maker.
Yeah.
I might just print a label like ABCDFGHJK, blah, blah, blah,
blah, et cetera, to be able to look down and just be able to pick him up
just as quick.
But gentlemen, gentlemen, well done.
Thank you.
That's so freaking awesome.
I'm going to stamp a couple.
I think what I'm going to do is probably put on a million satoshis
or something onto one of them and give them to my mate and say,
Hang on to this.
Yeah, yeah.
That'll be a million dollars for that, man.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
Fuck.
That is so awesome.
Well done.
Thank you.
That's incredible.
How's the clicking work?
That was actually kind of a bit of an engineering challenge,
but there's a little spring plunger in there.
We actually did a lot of micro machining to get that to work the first time around.
a better way to do it.
So now the next generation that are coming out
are even more, like, it's a stronger,
more tactile click, and it's a little easier
for us to make.
So we're still refining a couple little things
here and there, but, you know, this thing works
the way it is right now.
Bloody oath it works.
That works amazing.
One thing, because I, like, wasn't sure
if I'd clicked or I'd double-turned
or whatever, double-clicked on it,
just to have, like, a notepad,
and then you could just like make a mark each time or whatever and just tally it up
as you get it that's that's super easy that's um i love it i love it that uh if you for me
personally i make it a point to make it very habitual right like i go i put a punch in i
stamp the punch i click the thing i take the punch out i put a punch in i stamp the thing
I click the thing I pull the punch out right like I never deviate from that just to make sure like
if the punch is still sitting in there someone comes in and starts talking to me I go punch is
still in there I know I didn't click it or whatever it is you know so I never get screwed up even then
like uh when we were packing up this last order like I was like oh I need to make one for the
product photos or whatever and right in the middle of it like if you look at our product photos I
have a double stamp there so like I'm just like god dang it such a rush you know yeah but you can't
really tell and the fun and the cool thing is you can still read the word so um yeah and if you make
a new wallet i don't know how many people are still with the old school typing classes like
back in the day when you had like a carriage return but uh probably not that many but the
way you would fix a mistake back then is you just back up and then type x's over the top of
everything and so if you ever need to make a new wallet you want to obscure that thing you want to
you just go through and just stamp a bunch of x's right on top of what you had and it's gone right
yep or even just get out an angle grinder and just yeah i've did that with um
but before this i'd like a really big plate um and like went through and yeah just got the angle
grinder out and then just like sand it all off and then i chopped it into tiny little little
pieces but it was like maybe three times the size of this oh wow um yeah so it took like a long time
to be able to do and then to be able to chop it up um i don't know if it's titanium i think it
might have just been stainless steel but it took like a long time a couple of hours to destroy that
seed phrase yeah that if you needed to get rid of it pretty quickly um yeah you could just smash
with a hammer i mean the thing is the the beauty of it being that small form factor is like
people aren't curious about it like you would walk past a washer sitting on the ground a hundred
times and i don't think there's ever a time when you'd stop and go i feel like stopping my day today
to pick up this washer off the ground just to see what's on it right like just no one does that yeah
that's that's right i need to i've got really good eyesight um 2020 vision but i need to hold it
about there and i can just just read it that's yeah for there it's so small that is yeah um a lot
of people they'll take their phone out don't take a picture of it whatever you do don't record your
on any electronic device but you can use the zoom function on your camera you can zoom in on it
that can help you see it magnifying glasses help you see it one of the things with the nylon washer
and one of the things that's really neat about that nylon washer is once you stamp those seed
words in there, they're nearly impossible to read because there's no contrast to it. Right.
So one of the things you have to do is get like a little magic marker and kind of mark around it
or a little bit of paint or something like that to bring those letters out. But it's also, it aids
a lot in obscurity. It makes it so like, if you had a nylon washer in your pocket, like you,
you wouldn't have to obscure it any further than that. And it would just be, you know, it's pocket
dust, right? Like no one's ever going to care about it. No one's ever going to figure out what
it is. But I say nylon washers are super handy for things like if you're going to be traveling
to Burma next year and you don't know if the Burmese military is going to be friendly to you
this year or not, or you don't know if the Burmese cops are going to be cool, you can sew a little,
you could just put 100,000 Satoshis, a million Satoshis, 10 million Satoshis onto this little
nylon washer. And there are places in the world where prisons aren't like they are in the US or
New Zealand or Canada or the United States, there are places where you go to prison, they go,
you got any money? No, well, you're probably going to starve. So good luck, buddy. But if you got
that thing sewn into your clothing or you swallowed it or something like that, you can literally be
buying your way out of problems. Or if you get shaken down on the streets of Paris and you get
mugged and they take your phone and your passport and this, that, and the other thing, rather than
sleeping in the police station that night, you can go to an internet cafe, download Tales,
open up an electric wallet and you have Bitcoin. You can give that to somebody. You can cash it out.
You can exchange it. You can get some money. And it could be the difference between spending the
night on the street or spending the night in a hotel room and calling your mates and trying to
figure out a way to get out of wherever you are. So there's a lot of reasons for this. It's not
just about protecting your seed phrase. That is one good use case for it. And it's very, very easy
to hide. I use my old plate as a drop thing. I put that in the safe. If someone breaks in the safe,
you know congratulations you just found yourself like a million satoshis way to go dude but the
washers you can put anywhere and people say well how can i find it after a fire this that the other
thing i go that washer can go anywhere a washer can go so if you bolt it to the back of your fridge
your fridge is not going to melt and it's going to be pretty easy to find in the rubble if you
just go and go oh that's the fridge let me scoot that out from the wall unscrew that but also i
would point out to a lot of people that there are people in California that still can't get back into
the houses because of the wildfires. There are still people in Hawaii that can't get back into
their houses because of those wildfires. There are people in North Carolina that still can't get back
to their houses because of the hurricanes. So if you got your plate and that's your one thing that
you got bolted into your safe and you feel pretty secure about it, what happens if there is a natural
disaster and they just won't let you back to your house and you get shot as a looter if you try?
You go, that's not great. And especially if they go, well, this place is condemned. It's too
dangerous we're just going to bulldoze it and you go but but but oh my bitcoin is right yeah i just
need that please so if you can make a bunch of washers you can literally stamp geo coordinates
into a washer you can say hey at these geo coordinates underneath this tree six feet down
is a little like stainless steel pipe that's got a coin in it that's super important you know like
or you can have it bolted to the back of your mom's fridge or you have it bolted to your mate's
you know, bicycle if you wanted. There's a lot of options there.
This is super amazing. I don't keep any of my seeds at home for good reason.
And I don't use these either. This is sort of the cheapest thing that I would have recommended
to other people. And it's $60 to $90 per person. So to make more and more copies,
well, it's sort of a waste of sets, but yes, you need to protect it.
but there's
like you're saying, I don't know
maybe a titanium washer would be
50 cents or something
it's super incredible
and there's a really interesting aspect of that
if like there is
I had a friend that is really like
into like prepping and the preppers
community
and I look into this a little bit more
and more and they have a thing
where they say like oh you need to have
kind of like your emergency kit
where you put like maybe gun, food, some things in there.
And they always say like, oh, put your gold coins in there.
And I was thinking, oh, like with a micro seed,
you can put literally just like whatever amount of satoshis
on like one micro seed, like put a million satoshis per coin,
put like a bunch of coins in there.
And then you can go ahead and like actually have like your million
coin satoshis in there.
And they're like, oh, here, please.
Here's a million satoshis.
for your service.
And so like what the Microsoft really allows
is for the most creative solution
to be used for Freedom Tool.
That's why I'm so freaking bullish on that one
because it just has a lot of different variations
where you can use it.
Obviously, the first one is just like
putting your seed phrase on the titanium.
But beyond that,
there's so many different possibilities.
Things that probably some customer will think of
that we haven't even really thought about.
There will be a lot of really interesting use cases for that.
Yeah.
Hey, spotters.
Oh, go ahead, Sean. Sorry.
I'll be quick.
But yeah, like if you had your words on this,
hand it over, million satoshis.
It turns it in, like I was saying earlier,
physical gold, final settlement.
Once they have that, that's freaking amazing.
You can give them this thing,
be like, give it back to me in 24 hours,
put it onto a new wallet,
whatever it is you need to do.
yeah absolutely so yeah a lot of options i love what robin said about it like and that's kind of
spot on we had a guy that uh actually made 3d coasters and then he stopped the print halfway
through he put the washer in the middle and printed right over the top of it so the little
bitcoin coasters but he told his kids look if anything happens to me break that thing open this
is what you need to do this is what's in there i started goofing around with like wax stamps
for letters and i just dripped the wax right on top of the coin and then put the stamp on top of
it and lo and behold it sealed the letter and you could quite literally put a letter in there that
says hey this is my last will and testament dear sue underneath this wax seal is your future love
dad right and so the attorney that gets it goes oh yeah there's a letter in here i get it oh it's
got a cute little wax seal whatever and it just sits in his whatever the attorney does with it
And when little Susie gets that letter, she can open it up, read it and go, oh, wow, what's it?
Oh, hey, there's something in here.
Melt the wax off.
And guess what, honey?
You're a billionaire.
Let's go.
Neat stuff you can do with this thing.
Really neat.
Really freaking cool.
Like Robin was saying earlier, you just want to do more and more of it.
I'm like, I want to run a workshop locally just to get people to enjoy this.
that's a lot of fun.
I'm going to stamp out a couple
and then hand some out to some people locally.
And it's actually interesting
because like you said,
you want to do this locally.
It's almost like a family tool.
If you are a bit kind of family,
maybe your dad is into it,
your sister is into it and all of that.
You need just one of these.
You can hand it over to them
and they can stamp it
and you have no way of knowing
their seed phrase.
So like you can share this device
with other people
and they have no way of knowing
like what is your seed phrase,
which is kind of like,
like kind of magical
because it's like,
this is,
I mean,
I'm repeating myself
what I said like early on.
It's like you buy one thing
one time for your whole family
and you use it all your life.
Like that's the last,
I always phrase that like
it's the last backup solution
you ever need to buy.
of course you can buy the titanium washers you can buy all the things also from the shop
but you can also just literally go to the store and pick it up for a few cents of like hey here's
my washer here's another seat phrase like it's super freaking easy yeah i love it now um something
that i want to round this out with um really quickly and daniel like you're just amazing with
doing it you like get get your seat off paper steal titanium and then run a freaking node be your own bank and you just like every single day it like run your own node run your own node run your own node run your own node And you absolutely relentless with it
You don't stop.
You don't shut up about it.
Now, obviously, this node is not plugged in,
and there's good reason for it.
I am running the server one start line,
which is a freaking incredible thing.
I've got the founder coming on in a couple of weeks' time
to be able to talk about it.
So I went from this, which is a Raspberry Pi, and it was all right.
It's super slow, but I didn't know anything different,
like loading and stuff.
That server 9 is going from like a horse and buggy to like,
it's just like a Ferrari.
It's a rocket ship.
It's just so quick, so responsive.
I got new internet as well.
It took three weeks to download the blockchain on this.
I think with the device, but obviously the increased internet speed,
less than 24 hours. It was like 18 or 20 hours. The whole blockchain was synced. I was like,
oh my God, thank you, Elon Musk with Starlink. It was amazing. And I didn't realize it's not
just a node. You can use it for a full stack server. I'm going to keep that as specifically
a Bitcoin not node with it. And then I'm going to get a second one. I'm going to run that as
a server stack. But this needs to catch up with a couple of blocks. It's been unplugged for about
a week now, but it's running Core version 29 if I was to plug it back in and get it going.
I'm a bit pissed off with Core at the moment. That's my own thoughts. I'd like to get your
thoughts. But before that, like Daniel, why are you so relentless with pushing nodes and then
hand it over to Robin and why do you think everyone should run a node? I think it's mandatory. I don't
think it's a nice to have or about supporting the network. I think it's about being freaking
sovereign for the individual, most importantly. But what are your thoughts?
I agree. I mean, right out of the gate, thank you for bringing
that up. Because I mean, I tell people endlessly,
there's all kinds of ways to back up your seed phrase. Yeah, every day. There's a million ways to
back up a seed phrase. Like you said, you can just engrave it on metal. I think micro
seed is a great way to do it. I think it gives you a lot of options. But if you have the choice between
say buying a Start9 or buying a micro seed, I go buy the Start9, please. It's so
much more important that we all participate in the network. The thing about which version you run
is actually at the core, no pun intended, is the core of the issue. Right now, there are 23,000
reachable nodes, right? And of those 23,000, about a third of them are run by corporations.
They're run by exchanges like Binance, they're run by BlackRock and Wall Street Bros and just
major corporations and old school whales are the people that kind of dictate what Bitcoin is,
right? And what software is run on the network dictates what Bitcoin is. What gets passed as a
transaction, what follows consensus rules is what Bitcoin is. And the purpose of Bitcoin is
decentralized and permissionless, right? So if you have 23,000 nodes and 60% of them or 70% of
or in the United States and the EU, that's not decentralized.
It's not decentralized enough.
The thing we absolutely need to do as Bitcoiners is to stop being apathetic hodlers,
to stop being price speculators, and to start being participants in the network.
Bitcoin, in my opinion, is the most important invention that's ever been created by mankind.
It is the first and only property that's ever existed that cannot be seized by the state.
That changes the rules of the game forever.
It is a shot heard around the world.
people just haven't realized it yet.
And when they finally do,
we don't want it to be at a time
when the network has been co-opted
by a bunch of corporations
and government goons, right?
And right now the network
is potentially vulnerable to that.
It is resilient to it right now.
But if it becomes like the $20 trillion asset,
believe you me,
there are going to be a lot more forces going,
hey, wait a minute.
I don't like that I can't control that.
And if I can control it,
I'm going to be the most powerful guy in the world.
So let me go figure out how to control that.
We don't want that to happen.
23,000 nodes, it's a barrier that can be overcome.
23 million, impossible.
Never, ever, ever happen.
That is freedom money.
That is freedom property for eternity
if you get to 23 million nodes.
One million nodes is a massive, massive buffer.
But that's why I say it's so important.
It's the most important thing you can do.
Whether you pick knots or core, I don't care.
I really don't.
If you have a node, you have a voice
in what happens to the network, right?
1,000%. So yeah, that's my soapbox. I'll get off it now because I'll just ramble about it endlessly.
But that is the most important thing to me in the world right now. Get people to run nodes.
I have a quiet personal goal that by the end of 2026, if we could get a million nodes,
I would be just over the moon. And I would sleep so well because everything else in my life is
wrapped around Bitcoin. My life has improved 10,000% because of Bitcoin. I want to make sure
that the rest of the world gets to get those benefits
just like I did.
And 1 million nodes will absolutely do that, 1,000%.
So God bless you for running a node,
for participating in that work.
I love that.
There's a ton of ways to do it.
I love that you're a voice that's supporting that.
And anybody that's on board with that,
I'm on board with 1,000%.
So thank you.
I want to add 100%,
like everything Daniel said,
I could just repeat.
I try to add some extra thoughts to that.
But as also Dennis said,
there's a lot of people that are very focused on the price action.
And I always come back to like,
okay, what is Bitcoin actually giving us?
And I've said that today in the live stream,
I've said it multiple times in the podcast.
For me, what I've learned from over 600 different episodes on the podcast,
there are three main pillars that you get from Bitcoin.
The first one is the wealth aspect.
Like, oh yeah, Bitcoin is going to a million,
then 10 million, then 100 million.
That's awesome.
Like we are getting wealthy and we are getting rich and that like 1 million Satoshis will be ones worth like a million dollars and will buy you a bunch of shit.
And then there is the second aspect of Bitcoin.
This is the kind of the freedom aspect of Bitcoin where you can decide, hey, I keep my own keys.
I want to have my own wallet and I can decide who I give my money towards.
I can decide who can access my money.
And then there's a second aspect in the freedom category is like running your own note. It's your vote in this freedom revolution, what is being run.
And as Daniel said, for me, the emotional reaction of the community of like, what version should be run is understandable.
But I don't understand why not more people are emotional about why not more people run a node.
So like, for me, I think Bitcoin would succeed more if it gets to 10 million nodes than if it gets to 10 million US dollars.
obviously we would always all love to get like oh yeah like my my bitcoin is worth a lot that's
amazing but like having more nodes on the network makes bitcoin worth more this is this is the
freedom aspect is what allows the number go up technology to prosper like we we need the freedom
aspect we need the fundamentals to get the number go up technology to get this 10 million us dollar
price and as daniel said it's very very important this bitcoin gets bigger and bigger with every
year so the honey pot uh the the thing that people want to get to and want to control
gets bigger and bigger so this is kind of my my most important aspect of like get to participate
in the network and run a node.
And one more aspect to that is
I was very reluctant on that part.
I did self-custody from day one.
Like I bought Bitcoin and just like the YouTuber
that I was following back then said like,
you should get your own wallet.
And I was like, I just did that.
But for a very long time,
I did not even know what a node is.
And I recently asked actually my YouTube community,
hey, what will you run, core or not?
and a couple of people were asking me like,
what is a node?
And they watched my content.
I'm like, okay, I didn't do a good enough
educational content
because this is very fundamental
for the Bitcoin network.
And so I kind of want to demystify this whole thing.
You can run a node on any computer.
You can just grab a computer.
Maybe you have an old computer running
and just tinker with that.
you don't have to at first you don't even have to buy anything then uh if you are tinkering more
you can as as sean just showed you can do it on any raspberry pi on any literally computer
and just do it and set it up my my favorite uh is start nine and it sounds like we're always like
start nine sales people but we're i at least i'm not affiliated with them um but i packed it up it
It was like an Apple-like experience.
You just plug it in your Ethernet,
you plug it in your Power thing,
and then you just type in, what is it?
Start.start9 or something like that in your browser
and you get the instructions, you do the small things
and it's super easy and it's like plug and play.
And so don't think it's complicated.
It's quite the opposite.
It's actually quite easy,
especially now if you have tools like ChatGPG
and things like that running,
just get it started, get the tools.
And it's very easy.
And what it does,
and that's why I also tell people to do that,
what it does, it forces you to make a decision.
It's like, oh, there's Bitcoin Core.
Oh, there's also Bitcoin Nodes.
Okay, what's the difference actually?
What is different for me running a node on this one or on this one?
Oh, I can do some settings here.
Oh, what is that data size carrier?
I think something like that, like the op return thing.
Like, what is that?
What does this actually mean for my node?
What does this mean for the network?
And setting this up makes you, you then can no longer get out of it.
Like you have to, you're confronted with those questions
and you learn a lot about the Bitcoin network.
So with that, I'm also very passionate about that.
about that. So with that, I'll keep my rant a little shorter.
Yeah. I think just to be able to round out a lot of people that are saying,
come for the gains, stay for the revolution. And sort of to speak into what both Daniel and
Robin were saying, Bitcoin's got zero value unless you can take it into self-custody. That's what
gives Bitcoin its 2.4-whatever trillion dollar market cap. If you couldn't take Bitcoin into
self-custody, it'd just be worthless. So that's the real revolution. And a lot of people do leave
it on the exchange. And it's the same as leaving fear in the bank. Just get it on steel at a
minimum. Titanium's even better. You can just press as much as you need. But if you need somebody to
hold your hand the Bitcoin way, there's a link below as well. And then just on that server,
9, run any node, an old computer, a Raspberry Pi.
They're pretty cheap.
The only issue I had with this was the fan.
I needed to replace that and then kept going again.
And the hard drive, it took me a couple of hours
as just being a little bit weird, but it was good.
And it lasted about 18 months.
That one was pretty expensive.
So after I got it and I plugged it in,
and I had somebody else's discount code for it.
They said, you know, use this.
So I reached out to Start9 straight away and said,
this is absolutely amazing.
can I have a discount code for my community?
Same thing I did with you guys.
If I find something that works, that's helpful for people,
take it or leave it.
Make up your own decisions, ladies and gentlemen.
If you want it cheaper, there's a whole lot of things
in the description below.
But the micro seed, thanks so much for coming on.
It's quarter past one in the morning for Robin.
It's about five in the afternoon for Daniel and it's 9.15 for me.
So I'm going to get stuck into my day.
But just gentlemen, thank you so much.
And truly, it's a marvel.
I think this is a really amazing contribution to the Bitcoin space,
the Bitcoin community for people that are seeking.
Fuck you, freedom money.
Well done.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it, man.
And just thank you for your support and for all the work you're doing with your show.
It's a great podcast and it's very informative.
Great content, great vibes.
So thank you as well.
I absolutely appreciate it.
And I do it because I know it's so important.
If you watch this video and you haven't subscribed to Sean,
there's usually this discrepancy between how many people watch
and how many people subscribe.
Sometimes it's like 50%, sometimes 40%.
It's like, it's shockingly how many people watch without subscribing.
And it really helps Sean out.
So like, just leave him something there,
like a subscriber or something like that.
And if you happen to buy a micro seed, make it through Sean's links.
It helps also his channel and supports him.
So I think this is the third pillar that I was kind of forgetting last time.
It's the community and culture aspect of it and helping to get.
And this is so nice what Sean is doing.
He's just reaching out like, hey, I love the product.
I would love to just engage with that.
We didn't reach out to Sean.
was like oh like can you make a video like like any of those are you just like i love the product
like i would love to do an unboxing video with you guys and like that's that's freaking amazing
that's why i'm in the bitcoin community because people are just genuinely helpful and want to put
uh and want to promote great stuff like that's that's it and so uh uh i with that i want to
promote sean dude dude i love it like anyway any of us gentlemen can lead other people to the
freedom that we've found in our own lives and to be able to accelerate that like you can spend a
lot of time we've all spent thousands of hours you know more than 5 000 hours and over the last
six years and the amount of podcasts and the conversations and stuff people don't have 5 000
hours to go down the rabbit holes and stuff but they can tune in for like a one-hour podcast or
whatever and they're like oh i need to stamp it onto steel minimum okay like how do i do that
That's great.
Microcetal, whatever you want to use.
I need to run a node.
Like what node do I want to use?
Computer, old computer, maybe a Raspberry Pi.
Maybe I want to go to a dedicated server, whatever it is.
That, you know, if you had to go out and then you'd be able to search for it
and then you like need to do reviews on everything,
you need to triangulate.
You're like, all right, my Bitcoin's still on the exchange.
It's been on the exchange for a while.
What do I need to do?
And watch endless YouTube videos, triangulate that data,
spend like 50 to 100 hours to get a pretty good setup.
or you can spend some time, a little bit of money with people like Tony from the Bitcoin way.
But in any way, to be able to accelerate that journey, because I think we've got about three
years left, at least here in Australia, where you've got an opportunity to get a meaningful
amount of Bitcoin and self-custody, and then you're absolutely screwed. I think digital IDs,
CBDCs, social credit scores, hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully the world doesn't go fucking dystopian,
But you can protect yourself now.
Just do it, please, ladies and gentlemen.
It's your own freedom.
It's your friends, your family.
It's your community around you.
Those are the ones that you love the most.
Just get it right.
But gentlemen, it's been a freaking pleasure.
Make sure you subscribe to Robin.
I'll put both their X accounts below as well as the link to MicroSeed.
If you use it, you'll support me.
You guys get a discount as well.
but either way
get your Bitcoin
off paper
get it off the exchange
on steel minimum
please
but gentlemen
thank you very much
thank you so much
thank you so much Sean
it's a pleasure
thanks everyone
please do something nice
for yourself today
and for somebody else out there
be blessed
peace