You go through a CBDC overnight, do you know what the price of Bitcoin will be?
Literally, as soon as that happens, a CBDC overnight, you'll be in the millions of dollars.
A couple days ago where they said that Bitcoin could be a billion dollars a coin.
Well, let's say that's right.
What do you think?
I'm being very clear with you here.
As a first principle decentralized thinker, Brandon, you told me why.
So we will confiscate Bitcoin.
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Bing bong. I am back with another edition of the State of Bitcoin podcast where I've got
the man, the myth, the legend, Dr. Jack Cruz in the house, who last time when we had him on,
we actually got the episode taken down. So this should be an interesting one to say the very least.
But Dr. Jack, there's a lot going on, including just a recent publication about what came out in
the COVID vaccine and a lot going on with RFK just wanting data to be published about the vaccine. So
I'm curious your opinion on the current state of what we've seen in this administration
through the first nine-ish months and where you think it's going?
This take may shock people, but, I mean, if you've listened to any of my other podcasts,
I've been wholly unimpressed with Maha, wholly unimpressed with RFK Jr.,
wholly unimpressed with the rapidity and speed that with Bondi and Cash have arrested no one
tied to the COVID RICO case, considering the level of evidence that is now in the public domain.
So as far as I'm concerned, this administration gets an F in decentralized politics.
They haven't done shit with Bitcoin as far as I'm concerned.
They haven't done shit in Maha.
and uh they pretty much got charlie kirk killed so that's 0 for 3. yeah so let's dive into to what
just recently happened uh you know of course there's a lot of news still coming out about
that but it seems a little fishy of the timing uh so i'm curious your opinion of what happened and
yeah let's let's hear it well i mean from charlie's standpoint um to be honest i think most people
know, especially from some of the podcasts that I've done with like Bulwark and Elijah
Schaefer has been at my house in El Salvador, that I'm no fan of Zionism.
You know, I believe Zionism is behind Rockefeller Medicine, and I believe it's behind, you know,
all of the problems that we have with money, fiat money specifically.
And Charlie was a Christian Zionist.
But the thing I liked about Charlie, he was a savage in the way he was bringing young people to the political scene.
And from my standpoint, that makes him like the Library of Alexandria.
One of the things that I think I've said to you in the past, that I was pretty disappointed when one of the good things that Trump did, how he earned my vote was obviously with Ross.
But the second big one was when he released the data on the Mossad and the CIA killing JFK.
I thought, you know, more people would be upset with this.
And it turned out they weren't.
And here we are today, two days after Charlie's killed.
And people are way more upset about Charlie's death than they are about JFK, which I find very interesting.
It seems that 50 percent of the younger people are fired up about this.
I think it's pretty obvious why he was targeted.
And I think this is a,
it's a huge warning shot to people like David Bailey,
to people that are in the Bitcoin space,
us having these public parties and these meetings,
they're dangerous.
I said it to Marty Bent.
And I think now maybe some of you guys
will get your head out of your ass at 31 years old
that if you are making waves,
doesn't matter even if you're making waves for the manga guys.
You're now a target.
And we are, Emma Robinson said something this morning on Twitter
that I think was really apropos.
What this murder assassination truly means is the time for debate is over.
The time right now, it's game time.
It's time for savages to make ready.
It's 1774, part due.
And everybody better get their house of order because the fascists on the left who told us that Charlie was the Nazi,
they just proved the point that they were who they blame Charlie is.
And that's, you know, a classic technique that is used to radical radicalize, you know, your political opponent.
When you step over the boundaries where you can have a discussion on politics, can you imagine what this is going to be like when Bitcoin is a million dollars or two million dollars or three million dollars a coin?
What the story between the have and have nots are?
And I have to be honest with you, I am really shocked at how some of the big voices in Bitcoin have got their head up their ass so much about this one specific issue.
Because if Charlie can be silenced over, you know, teaching kids about the history of the American Constitution and what it means from his perspective.
and he was spectacular at teaching these young kids history.
What do you think is going to happen, you know, in a couple of years?
Like, just let's say if Michael Saylor is 10% right.
You know, we just saw something in Twitter a couple of days ago
where they said that Bitcoin could be a billion dollars a coin.
Well, let's say that's right.
What do you think, you know, some jackass in Utah
who's a have nothing, do nothing,
is going to do to say Bitcoiners in a Las Vegas meeting?
You tell me.
And I just think it's disingenuous not to have these discussions.
I said to Marty Ben on his podcast that it's time that all of us start to realize the risks that are out there.
Because if we can't have a discussion about why money is fucked and how it became, you have to realize why Charlie was killed was exactly for the same reason.
He wasn't even coming at it from the monetary side.
And for Bitcoiners to be reminded, one of the things I'd like to remind them of, Charlie Kirk, even though I wasn't 100% of a fan, I was definitely a fan that he went behind the scenes and talked to Donald Jr. and Trump to actually get Ross freed and get a full pardon.
And from my standpoint, he earned ultimate respect for me.
The thing that I liked about him the most was that he was teaching young children in school, in colleges, you know, why they were being radicalized and what was really going on.
And I think that's the first step in really becoming to be a BitChorner, because I think how we eliminate, I don't know, let's say 15 year old to 25 year old nihilism is to teach them.
Yeah, the world, you guys were raped and pillaged by, you know, the boomer generation.
But remember, the boomer generation is not guys like me.
Even though I am a boomer, I would say it's the politics that was going on at that time.
And you now have the collateral effects of that.
And you have to realize to reverse that, what's the prescription to reverse it?
It's only Bitcoin.
And when you own Bitcoin, it's a time machine that can right a lot of the wrongs.
Charlie really never got to that level. But this morning on Twitter, right before I came on with you, I saw a really pointed post by Ross. And Ross told the truth in that post. He said, look, Charlie was really important in getting Trump and Don Jr. to realize the gravity of his situation.
and that's when I decided to bubble down and say something that probably was really unpopular.
I understand Ross has got PTSD. We can all see it on the stage when he talked this year,
but because Charlie helped Ross get out of jail, I think Ross now has to take up the banner and
re-engage and get back in and finish. Not going to say he's going to be as popular as Charlie was,
But he has to re-engage politically because guys like you, young guy like you, we need young kids between 15 and 25 years old to really understand the history of how this country got so fucked and how our money is so bad and why centralized medicine or Rockefeller medicine has been allowed to rape and pillage every single generation.
It's not just my generation that they're killing now.
They're actually killing you guys by making sure your testosterone is on the ground, by making sure your women all have PCOS, by turning boys into girls and girls into boys.
They're doing the same thing now to little kids that they did to Alan Turing to take him out.
But no one will ever get that history lesson in those young age groups.
unless we have people like Charlie Kirk out there telling people how important it is to know
where the foundations of the founding documents come from, that there was a moral thread,
and we should be able to have conversations like you and I are having right now where we can disagree.
And it doesn't mean that we have to pull out a rifle and shoot somebody in the neck to stop that discussion.
When you lose that, not only you effectively lose, I would say, the narrative or political ideation, but you're actually losing the fabric of humanity when you do that.
And I think when people really understand that that's the issue where we're at now and that it's incumbent upon us to understand that we are headed for probably a civil war and an American Revolution Part Two if people do not understand and make the accurate diagnosis.
Because the people that are on the right and left, they love what's going on here.
And for people who disagree with that, I would just remind you that the people on the left hated Charlie Kirk because he reminded them of my generation's Charlie Kirk, which was Rush Limbaugh.
And it's very clear that they did not want a young Rush Limbaugh to take over Trump's party.
I think the people also who didn't like Kirk, this is the rhinos that make up the majority of the people in Congress right now.
And the reason why is because Charlie was a danger to the status quo.
He actually spoke out about the status quo.
And let's face it, anybody who's in political power doesn't want that to happen.
And we're all Bitcoiners.
Every time we buy a Satoshi, we are voting against the paradigm in power.
Now, that is the way to do it without acute lead toxicity, without a rifle, without being a fascist.
And I think when you understand that, if you're a Bitcoiner, I think we're on a very slippery slope.
I said to my nurse, Chantal, last night after you and I didn't connect yesterday, that I felt
it was probably good that we didn't connect because it gave me a little bit more time
to reflect on kind of where we are at right now. And we are on the precipice of something big,
but also something dangerous
because we can go either way here.
And I think there's going to be different groups
in the country that go different ways.
And ultimately, I had a very deep conversation
with a couple of Bitcoiners in a clubhouse room
three or four years ago,
and they all told me that I was going to get my head cut off
and my arms cut off in El Salvador.
And one of the things that I realized last night
is that those guys are now at bigger risk than I am in El Salvador.
And I don't think they realize it.
I think where you sit right now, Brandon,
you have bigger risks than I do.
And I also think that what comes incumbent upon people
like Elijah Schaefer, Emma Robinson,
even the jackasses in the media like Shapiro,
Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes,
days, you better be ready for what's coming because I don't think any of you are.
Mockingbird Media is now your target.
You're not just a target if you have a big mouth on X anymore.
Like when you speak out about Bitcoin after Charlie's death, you now have a target on
you.
And you better be very, very aware that we are now at the level of the have and the
have lost.
And Charlie was an expert at trying to show kids why they were radicalized by people like Soros.
And it was the have and have not story.
You know, that goes all the way back to Anne Ryan's books.
And that's before your time, before your generation's time.
But my generation knows about, you know, those things.
The problem is me as an old guy, I lived through 1968.
I know what the summer of assassinations was like.
You guys are just finding that out right now.
And through the 60s into the 70s and into the 80s,
some people think America took the right path at that time.
I personally am one of the people that don't.
I've never gotten over the JFK assassination.
I never got over the RFK assassination.
and never get over the Martin Luther King assassination.
And I think the proof that I'm right about that
is they shot at Reagan as well.
They tried to kill him.
People are upset about the military coup that happened in 1963.
And I think Charlie is the latest tsunami wave
that goes back to that original event.
And I think that's where our original problem was. Until those people are brought to justice, because I think the same people that really killed Charlie are behind the people that killed JFK. The people that threw Ross in jail. This is about keeping political power in Washington, D.C. in a centralized institutional power base.
And I think, Brandon, that's the biggest story that we need to start pushing back hard on every centralized institution.
Like when somebody comes out on Twitter and says, hey, you know, something bad about Charlie.
Like I saw this morning a pilot for United Airlines and SkyWest came out and said something absolutely psychotic on social media.
Well, we need to hold that guy accountable.
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You know, we need to not fly United.
We need not to fly sky west until they do something.
Um, I saw that a guy that owned, uh, uh, a pet grooming business did the same thing.
Same thing holds.
Then the worst one was a professor at the university of New Mexico, who's a doctor,
runs a medical group for Rockefeller Medicine, came out and did the same thing.
If doctors who are woke, who are totally centralized, who are harming patients with
Rockefeller Medicine feel brazen enough to come out and support an assassination on social media,
that tells you just how bad civilization society is. I mean, we are sick as a species.
And I think it's the duty of the decentralized savage to do everything you possibly can to remedy that situation, meaning buy more sats.
Start making plans for your citadel.
Start arming up.
Be ready for what I think you're going to face, Brandon, as a young guy.
I may not face it, but I think within 25 years, what happened in 1861 all the way through today, it may be another hundred years of civil, you know, discord and tied to our political divide.
But make no mistake, my diagnosis about the political divide probably isn't where Charlie went.
My belief is that it's about money.
It's about fiat versus Bitcoin.
I know that my profession has been destroyed by Rockefeller Medicine.
It's axiomatic, but the only way I can do my part, which I tried to do,
is I tried to teach doctors exactly what Charlie tried to teach your generation
about understanding the history of our founding documents
and what they meant and why we're in the situation we're in now,
because that's the only way you can get people to change.
They have to understand why it's happened before they say,
you know what, I'm no longer going to participate in this,
because right now society is in a big blender,
and the media is the propaganda that's mixing this all up.
Every single person in the media has blood on their hands,
as far as I'm concerned, with Charlie's death.
And it's about time some of them realize that.
I think Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, Nick Fuentes, all the people on the left, all the people on MSNBC, they all have blood on their hands.
Anybody who says otherwise, I think is wrong.
And I think when Edward Bernays wrote the book Propaganda in 1921 and you saw the Nazis use it very effectively,
I don't think people understand it's been used way more effectively since then.
More people have been killed by Rockefeller Medicine than all the wars combined since that book is written.
We now have clear evidence from Kevin McKiernan, Jessica Rose, the paper that, you know, they just try to get unpublished again about COVID.
What the Department of Defense did with those jobs and truly what your risk is.
I'm going to tell you the bullet that entered Charlie's neck that we also on social media.
It's just as deadly as the jabs that your Department of Defense gave to each one of you, if you took it and what they're doing to, you know, the vaccine schedule.
72 shots, three of which are COVID shots in the first year of life.
people are outraged by Charlie's bullet in his neck and seeing his carotid artery severed on live TV.
But nobody realizes that every time a pediatrician pushes that injection in the arm,
it's the exact same situation for a kid that's three months old, six months old, nine months old.
And remember, this is happening 25,000 times a month in the United States.
Do the math.
Add it up.
I mean, think about, you know, do your history.
Go back and think about when injections really started.
Then do the math every month and see how many people we're talking about.
It actually makes you realize the 460,000 people that we lost in World War II, definitely a terrible number.
We kill that many in six months in Rockefeller Medicine.
yeah and i mean it definitely is a lot to unpack here but i i mean i'm curious what you think that
this does to freedom of speech just because of what what we saw i mean you you know you list a
bunch of very influential people that you know jfk rfk martin luther king and it almost seems
like charlie kirk is kind of in that almost similar type of influential space just because
of how social media works and you saw obviously the massive crowds that he would draw every time
he went to the college campuses now do you think that this is going to affect you know people trying
to speak out here in the future and if so you know what what do you think the end result is because
i don't know if you saw some of the msnbc clips saying hey it might have been a supporter
shooting a gun off in a celebration and some of these other crazy things that they were just
putting out there instead of actually admitting what happened right off the jump um you know it
seems like there's more distrust in the media today uh just because of social media but i mean
is the propaganda do you think that they're they're feeling themselves lose a little bit
of control that's why we see you know events like this happen no i'll show you what the proof in the
pudding is to counterpoint you on this do you remember the the young ukrainian girl that was
killed by the black guy in in charlotte yeah um did you notice that nobody got up to help her
no i uh yeah i mean i didn't notice that part of the video i did notice that nobody was everybody
forgets everybody forgets about that part guess what there's been studies that goes back you
probably heard about the milligram experiments when people uh see someone else suffering they
They sit by idly and they don't do anything.
There's very few heroes out there.
And this is what I would tell you.
Ben Shapiro is no hero.
Candace Owens is no hero.
I don't think there's a lot of heroes out there because the heroes,
they leap into the game when the chaos is the worst.
And that's the reason I put the tweet out this morning I did to Ross.
I know Ross is not 100% well after being in jail, but he has been through something that those young people out there that Charlie was trying to affect, he understands.
He can do his part.
Do I think there's Bitcoiners out there that are also very influential that could take over part of what Charlie was doing?
Because let me be clear when I say this.
I wasn't 100% behind everything Charlie said.
I had a real problem with his Christian Zionism.
I told Elijah Schaefer that.
And I told him the reason I felt that way is that Charlie never made the link between bad money and Rockefeller Medicine.
But remember, I also know that Charlie wasn't, his shtick was not about decentralized medicine.
His stick was about the politics and about teaching young kids that you need to, you know, love freedom and understand what freedom of speech is all about.
Because without it, there is no freedom.
There's no constitutional republic.
And that part of the message I'm fully behind.
I think when these pundits go to college campuses, my belief is people like Ben Shapiro, they're there to stir the mix up.
I don't think Charlie was that guy. And you could see because when he talked to people, he he was not incendiary. He was actually trying to make a greater point. And that way, he reminded me a lot of Martin Luther King.
I felt the same way, you know, about Gandhi.
He did not go to inflame people.
He went there to actually teach them a lesson.
And what does the teacher do?
The teacher doesn't tell you what to do.
The teacher points the flashlight and then says, you have a choice.
We want you to be able to think this.
I think our duty, at least my duty as a surgeon,
What I do in decentralized medicine is I try to teach people first principle thinking.
Like, how do you think about this disease or that disease?
And then you make the decision and you go that route.
I think the same thing has to happen in politics.
I think the easiest way to handle politics, and I probably feel easier about this than Charlie did, is just by Bitcoin.
I think the more Bitcoin your generation buys, that is a vote to take the thermodynamic energy away from the Department of Defense, from the Pentagon, from the criminals that are in Washington, D.C., from the criminals that fill the Capitol building.
And if you don't think they're criminals, remember, when people in Congress ask for a movement of silence for prayer for Charlie, they vehemently push back against that.
The same thing happened in the European Parliament in the UK.
So these are, I would say, symptoms of the big problem that's present in politics.
But where does this distill down?
Distills down because money's failing.
And I remember when money fails, this is when the people in power realized that their house of cards could fall down.
So right now, these are the things that we should expect, Brandon.
There probably will be more assassinations.
There probably will be more shootings.
You just saw a shooting last night.
We haven't even talked about the naval shooting.
I mean, if you remember the podcast I did with Danny Jones, the first one, you know, from the 36 minute mark on,
I went and told Danny how MK Ultra went into Stanford Research and Brain Health Initiative, how we went from Mexican masculine all the way to blue light.
And, you know, people thought it was a joke.
And then I gave him the history lesson about how Obama got rid of analog, went to digital, how he got rid of incandescence, went to LED.
And I'm like, you got to ask yourself the question why this is happening.
And the point is, it's control.
They want to make sure that they control their narrative so you don't understand the money is failing, that you don't understand the next step is digital ID, vaccine passports and the CBDC.
Because that's what's happening.
I'm on a boat right now with 3,000 Australians.
And let me tell you, this hasn't been a vacation for me at all.
This has been a wake-up call to me that I can't retire.
If you saw the death and destruction walking around me every day, this is like me being in Charity Hospital, walking in a morgue, seeing people that don't know enough to lay down because they're already dead.
Six, seven, eight jabs.
People with no legs.
People that have had amputations.
People with new turbo cancer diagnosis.
I had dinner twice with somebody with a turbo cancer and told her what needed to be done.
And she said, this is so ironic that I've never been told this by anybody where I'm from.
Remember, everybody that's in Australia, they get Rockefeller Medicine too.
And just to make the point to you, Brandon, I bought some artwork from my clinic in El Salvador on this cruise.
and one of the things that stunned me,
I didn't think we'd bring this up,
but it ties to the story
that when the artwork was going,
people kept asking me,
why are you bidding so much?
I said, well, Australian money is worth 0.65
of what American money is.
I said, I am now on a boat
where I'm getting a 35% discount
because your country fucked COVID up so bad.
And they all looked at me like I was fucking crazy.
And I said, none of you understand how this link between the jab and me being able to get a better deal on artwork.
Like if I was on a cruise ship in the United States, I wouldn't be able to get this fucking deal.
Everything on this boat is priced in Australian dollars, which is 0.65 of an American dollar.
Which brings me back to the original point that I said to you.
when you distill all the stories in our world going on right now,
isn't it funny how it always comes back to money?
And it's because the money's failing and the money is failing at different
rates and different parts, you know, of the world.
And I happen to be going to the largest penal code in the world,
big Island in the Southern ocean, you know,
to deliver some paperwork to about some scammers that were stealing money
from not only my members, but other members, you know,
to see if these people will do something about it.
Now, they haven't done anything about COVID,
so I don't know if they're going to do anything about these people.
But the point that I would make is that I want the savages
that are out there to decentralize to understand.
Keep buying your Bitcoin.
Because you know what?
That is going to be able for you to build the Citadel
so that we all stay in contact like we're doing right now through podcast.
And do I think that the discussion you and I are having now is a little bit more safe than how Charlie or Shapiro or Megyn Kelly or Candace Owens said?
When you go out in the public eye and you say some of the things that we're talking about here today, you have to realize the targets on you.
Like when I invited Elijah Schaefer to my house, don't think that I would have met Elijah out in public.
you know especially in the united states because i think he's a hot potato he's radioactive
because of the beliefs they have not because of anything else at all same thing with breed love
when breed love came i told them you got to come to el salvador now like i'm bringing people to my
citadel and then we sit down and then we discuss kind of the things you and i are discussing
i would love to be able to go to vegas i'd love to be able to go to prague
and sit down and have these discussions live.
But when you see that we have de-evolved back
into shut your opponents up with acute lead toxicity,
I think you need to start thinking about survival of the wisest.
It's not about survival of the fittest anymore.
It's survival of the wisest.
And when you realize that we are getting closer
to the inflection point of money failing.
Brandon, these things are going to get more common.
You know, the things that we talked about
in the beginning of this podcast,
I want to make very, very sure that you understand.
I'm not lighting a fire alarm here.
I'm speaking without hyperbole.
This is strictly from a diagnosis.
When centralized institutions are failing,
chaos will ensue.
And the key is when you're decentralized,
that means that you can endure more chaos than other bears and that's really the story
of how i think savages need to play this out you need to decentralize more while the
centralized empire is failing
no i mean this is yeah it's truly eye-opening just what what happened uh but you know you
brought up your danny jones podcast and i've heard you on a few others uh where you talked
about DARPA and how they're using this to, you know, essentially control and almost seems like,
you know, we're all puppets here and they're just pulling the strings, you know. So how do you see,
you know, DARPA's involvement in this and what are they doing to essentially, I guess, like,
push this message forward? Well, DARPA is part of the surveillance state. I mean,
if you will know the truth, they're the original surveillance state, even before the Patriot Act,
even before I would say Peter Thiel Peter Thiel is the next iteration of that original program But when you understand what really happened from General Groves to say 2013 the Brain Health Initiative it was a morphing of what we see in science We believe that
biochemistry controls everything, and DARPA was quicker to understand that electromagnetism
controls everything, and that they can control the biochemistry in us. And it turned out,
they found out within those biochemical programs,
which ones were the easiest ones for them to control utilizing the
electromagnetic spectrum. And when they found out that light could do it,
that actually gave them control over key pathways.
The number one pathway was heme proteins.
Number two is the leptin-Milano-Cortin pathway.
That's the reason why you have GLP-1 drugs now.
And then the big one that started really with Turing in 1951 and 52, when the British government got rid of him for being the Lee Harvey Oswald of the transfer agreement, they basically set him up in a homosexual tryst and they treated him with estrogens.
and he effectively, you know, de-evolved his cortex and killed himself with a cyanide-laced apple.
That's the reason Apple computers got the name it's got.
Most people don't even know that.
But the point I would say to you is Charlie Kirk was killed because he was talking a lot recently
about how Israel, bankers, and this transgender problem really morphed.
And what most people don't understand about transgenderism, gay, queer, infertility, they're all linked through one of these heme proteins.
It's a heme protein enzyme that actually, you know, you're pretty interested in.
And the guy that I think we were supposed to talk to yesterday was interested in.
It's what I brought up on Danny Jones' podcast about testosterone.
At the end of it, he asked me about testosterone.
And I told them, you need to understand that this came from the storing of Turing in 52 and 53.
And then MKUltra studied it.
And that pathway, the enzyme pathway specifically that DARPA looked into was CYP19A1.
And most of you would know that pathway when I use the common name.
That's called the aromatase inhibitor pathway.
And what that pathway is designed to do is balance estrogens, testosterone, but it does it through quantum spin, through spin that's present on photons.
And that's what people don't understand.
What does that do?
It affects heme proteins.
The heme proteins move their oxidation state when you're in blue light.
the other thing that happens is that you no longer are able your body is no longer able
the the photolithography in your cells is no longer able to tell the quantum spin
of red light versus blue light versus purple light what does that lead to it leads to chaos
and what happens we have chaos in this cyp pathway that's how you do you create transgenderism
And who was the first scientist that figured this out before DARPA?
This is Rockefeller Medicine.
And I posted something yesterday on Twitter to show people where Rockefeller found this out.
It was in 1927.
So remember, where I took you in Danny's podcast was 1950s onward through 2013.
But where did the story first come from?
It came from Rockefeller Medicine in 1927.
And when they found out that they could use light to control different animals,
and the post that I put yesterday was specifically the endocrine system of chickens, rats, and dogs,
they then began to study this.
And that program gets sucked into DARPA.
And where are we now?
Where are we now now?
We now know how to take control of this aromatase pathway and create, you know, the kids that Charlie was out there trying to, you know, teach.
And Charlie mistakenly thought that he could reason with people who've had this defect brought on to them about light.
And that's, you know, where he made his big mistake.
You can't.
Once you have this light-induced injury, technically this injury is similar to a TBI,
no different than when you hit your head against the wall, say, or in a car when you get an accident.
And the only way to fix this problem is you have to use light to change the oxidation state.
You have to use light to get the quantum spin number back in your tissues.
It takes a while to fix it, but they are fixable.
What is the ultimate cure for this is teaching people how to use the sun properly, because then what happens?
You get back to the default state and you can fix these problems.
The problem is Rockefeller Medicine doesn't want anybody to go back to the default state because when you are in the pathologic state, you begin to use other medications.
In other words, reversing the disease makes you no longer accustomed.
And that's the ultimate issue with them.
They want to make sure that everybody stays a customer and everybody stays controllable.
That's how the link is between centralized medicine and DARPA.
And DARPA is very interested in controlling masses of people.
So that is the reason why Rockefeller Medicine has figured out how to do this by using the electromagnetic spectrum.
This is the reason why I have said consistently on podcasts that the person that sits highest on the Cantillon effect in the United States is big pharma.
The point that you brought up before about all the media people mocking our media.
Do you understand now why when Obama changed the rules that we could have big pharma go back and put commercials on TV?
This incentivized big pharma to then get the media to work for it.
So the media is doing the job of their marketing departments.
I need you to understand how these links there.
This is the reason why a guy like Charlie was so devastating to them because he is telling a message that is exactly opposite what they're trying to sell you.
And they want to make sure that none of you understand that there's actually a cure for the problem that's out there.
Because if you got that, you can unwind this whole situation.
When I sat down with Danny, I mean, Danny's a simple guy.
Most people I do podcasts with are simple guys.
They're not going to sit down and have a discussion with me about SIS, about quantum engineering, how this physically works, how the photolithography and the heme and melanin pathways work.
I know people don't want to know that stuff.
But I want you to know what I'm telling you right now is that light is capable of destroying your testosterone level.
Light is capable of destroying estrogen levels.
Light is capable of giving you PCOS.
Light is capable of making you want to feel like a girl or a boy or be gender confused.
Okay?
That is exactly what light does.
And they have now weaponized this against us to control us.
And they can't give the military a cue to go out and shoot at us.
So what do they do? They've created this third army and that third army becomes fascist and they go out and shoot targets that the media points to.
That's the reason why this link between pharma and media is a real problem, because I believe everybody in media, they were the ones that targeted Charlie.
And then it made it easy for these incels, these kids out there that don't even know they've been radicalized by DARPA, by the government, by the academics in colleges, to make sure that whoever speaks out against the centralized paradigm is silenced.
That's kind of where we're at.
And that is the, how shall I say, the brain surgery diagnosis that I'm giving you, why this is all happening.
and many people will listen to this and think this is hyperbolic.
I can tell you, I can give you all the sites.
I can give you every single paper that backs up everything I said.
I've tried to do it to Uberman and you saw how he backed out.
I knew he backed out.
I told Rick Rubin he backed out.
Why? Because he works for Stanford.
Stanford is where all this information was delineated.
If you look at the connections in government through Stanford,
Stanford and Harvard are two of the most evil empires for a constitutional republic, but most people don't realize it.
They're almost like weaponized armored divisions pointed at the taxpayer right now.
And people need to understand that centralized science is being used to harm us.
They're not shooting bullets at us like they did to Charlie Kirk.
They're shooting vaccines at us and our children.
That's their weapon of choice.
They're using drugs to do the same thing.
They're putting atoms in the drugs that act like chronic lead toxicity that get you sick.
They do that through halogens, through bromine, through fluoride.
These all have huge effects on oxygen.
And what don't you know?
That heme and melanin evolved in the great oxygenation event to control all these different things.
What are they doing?
They're injecting chaos into those pathways that are billions of years old that have been refined through Mother Nature, through the decentralized network of Mother Nature that are buried in each one of our cells.
And they have figured out how light can uncouple all those systems to create the chaos that you saw on Twitter, that you saw on MSNBC, that you see on CNBC.
and people don't understand they're marketing their products.
They're paying the media off with their products to keep the system running.
Now, I'm curious how you feel about the, you know, the attempt on Trump's life with all of this,
because, you know, there's been some things that have come out following that.
um and you know there's there's kind of a mixed opinion and it seems like after that happened it
essentially just kind of got swept under the rug about you know a month or so later uh very few
people kind of talked about it until this happened here um you know with charlie so uh what's your
opinion on that and um following that uh you know there's uh you're you're talking about now big
pharma being able to market on these traditional media outlets. RFK has been making a push to
go against that. So I know that nothing has been finalized, but do you think that that
is a step in the right direction? Yeah, I think it is a step in the right direction,
but I think you're going to see people like Susie Wiles and Bill Cassidy, Sanders, Warren,
all the people that shot Charlie Kirk, those are all the people that are speaking out against RFK.
And I have a sense that if Bobby doesn't get taken out politically, he's going to be shot like his father was.
He'd be the next guy that I think will be taken out by the cartel, if you want to know the truth.
And I don't say this lightly, but I think they're doing everything in their power right now to silence him.
do I think Bobby knows how to take it apart? Yes.
But I need guys like you to understand that people in power have put Amber
around Bobby.
I think the most powerful thing that's happened this week,
that was a predecessor to both Charlie and what's going to happen to Bobby is
the testimony of Aaron Seary to Senator Ron Johnson.
If you go and listen to what Aaron said this week,
He is the one guy who's a lawyer now in the political scene that has made a very accurate diagnosis of what's going on.
And I believe that that will be the pretense that Bobby will use to try to get and take apart the bioweapon program that is the CDC and FDA's baby for DARPA.
Do I think that Bobby is going to be successful?
not as long as Susie Wiles is the chief of staff for Trump. Why? You need to understand who Susie
is. Susie is the front man in the rock band of Big Harma, and she is a vaccinator. She is 100%
on that program, just as Bill Cassidy is. And I happen to know Bill Cassidy quite well. He used
to be my senator.
And he's a gastroenterologist.
He's the same type of doctor that Andy Wakefield was.
And he knows that Wakefield was correct about the MMR vaccine,
about how it changes things in the gut.
But he is making millions of dollars not only to hold the seat,
to do the bidding of the criminals in Big Pharma,
but when he leaves Congress, I guarantee you he's going to be
one of their biggest lobbyists that they'll have. Why? Because he's doing everything in his power
right now. Bernie Sanders, another one, $23 million. Remember what we say in Bitcoin, my friend,
incentives dictate outcomes. Well, not only did they dictate outcomes, they also dictate behavior.
These things that Senator Ron Johnson's putting out in front of all of you, you young people,
because I don't think you realize what you're seeing. They're outing the traitors who kill
Charlie every single day. That's Elizabeth Warren. That's Bernie Sanders. That's, you know,
Crowder. I mean, there are so many of them. Tom Cotton, who's, you know, head of intelligence
committee and Senate, he's one of the biggest criminals in Congress. He basically does the
bidding for the CIA and the FBI. I will remind you, Brandon, when we speak today, it's
September 12th. How many people has bondi or cash arrested tied to the RICO investigation
with COVID? Don't we now have emails floating all over X that show that Luke Montagnier was
right about Fauci and about Barrick, that they put HIV proteins in. Kevin McKiernan and Jessica
The rooms have clearly shown, you know, what not only the man-made virus has done with spike protein, but now what the spike means for people who took it.
Like, there's no longer any mystery.
Like, what you and I are talking about now, maybe two years ago, okay, maybe we're right.
We don't know.
We don't have the science.
Well, now we have it.
It's out there.
And let me ask you a question, Brandon.
How many people have been arrested by Bondi?
Remember who Bondi is tied to?
Susie Walsh.
Susie Wiles made sure that Bondi got put in when Matt Gets got out.
Why?
Do you know who Bondi represents in Florida?
Pfizer.
She's Pfizer's lawyer.
Did you know that?
No, I didn't.
That's the reason why she's got the position she's got.
And just remember something.
When Trump came out yesterday and said that he's going to go after the people that killed Charlie,
that is such bullshit coming out of his mouth.
Do you know why?
because his attorney general will never arrest anybody tied to the smart guy.
Why? Because they all know who did it.
They all know who's behind it.
It's about the centralized paradigm that's in power.
Trump's biggest mistake, if you want to know the truth,
and I don't think Trump's a real smart guy
because he's consistently put bad people around him in both of his administrations.
I understand better why he had to do it in this administration because he never gets elected.
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Without, this goes to the question you asked me about Butler.
I believe that was a psyop.
I believe it was a setup to get him elected.
And do I believe the architect behind that was someone like Watts, someone that knew they could control?
Do I think that Pfizer, Rockefeller, Madison knew that they could control Trump if they put him in and basically made him very crystal clear aware of what their agenda was, that he was going to talk, that he was president of Operation Warp Speed, which he's done?
that's how I see it. And I think when you understand how the propaganda of that media
picture looked, when he got shot, where he got shot, and why we don't know anything about that
shooter. We already know more about Charlie's shooter than we do about Trump's. The reason why
is because the one that shot Trump, I think, worked for DARPA, worked for the DOD, worked for
Susie Laws. That's the reason why. And I believe it was a pretense to get him elected. Why? Because
the propaganda of that event was time stamped on everybody's brain they were like we can't have
kamal harris we have to have a trump so what did this do it gave the opportunity to have big pharma
have a compromise president in that would not be able to change the mix and when he put bobby in
they made sure that suzy balls was around them they made sure they got rid of matt getz because
Matt Getz was a lot like Charlie Kirk. He was going after the rhinos. And I believe if Matt is
the attorney general, he was also my congressman in District 1 of the Panhandle of Florida.
He is the guy that I wrote nine letters to to come to El Salvador to see CECOT,
see what Bukele was doing, just so you're clear. I was a huge supporter of him. Did I know he was
compromised too? Yes, but I don't know a politician that's not. But the problem was he was coming after
the biggest criminals, the Murkowskis, the Susan Collins, the Senator Warrens.
These people need to be curled. These are the people that Thomas Jefferson and James Madison
warned us about in the Federalist Papers and also in the Constitution. And young guys like you,
I don't expect you to put your pitchfork down and pick up a muskin and shoot at the king like the patriots on them.
But I'm going to tell you, Brandon, every time you take your fiat out of your bank and buy Bitcoin, it's effectively the same thing because you're taking money out of the system, putting it in to money they can't fuck with.
and I think it's the thing
that if Charlie is up in heaven talking to Jesus Christ
I hope that he puts that bolt of lightning
in a guy like Ross
and people start getting the message
that we need to YOLO in to things like Bitcoin
if that doesn't work
then I think in 15, 20 years
when Bitcoin is worth a fortune
you're going to have a lot more to worry about Brandon
because they're going to start shooting at us
yeah so I I mean there's been a lot of you know the traditional media as well um like Tucker Carlson
has come out and kind of continually said that Bitcoin is created by the the CIA or some other
three-letter agency and it's a backdoor to CBDC and there's been a lot of stable coin regulation
that's come in uh so you know I of course I'm a full believer in Bitcoin in the decentralized
nature but it almost seems like that is kind of the case right now especially with what we saw
in Vegas with essentially every politician going up there and mentioning stable coins
as part of it uh so stable stable coins stable coins but let me let me say first thing Tucker
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Why?
Because I think he is part of the cabal that actually was involved in killing Kirk.
Okay.
That's number one.
Number two, when Treasury Secretary Besant came out, what was it, three weeks ago and told all of us, Brandon, that, oh, we're not going to buy Bitcoin.
We're going to confiscate it from people.
Isn't that exactly why Satoshi put 6102 in the Genesis block?
It happened in 1933.
And Besant just told us again.
Remember who Besant works for?
Rockefeller Finance, Rothschild Finance.
Those are the people that own the Federal Reserve, those 12 families that own him.
Don't forget that.
He told you the truth, but you didn't listen.
In fact, what did Trump and Susie and everybody try to do?
They shut him up right away when he spoke the truth.
So the stablecoin action that's going on right now is how they're planning.
Specifically, who are the architects of this plan, in my view?
Lutnick and Fink.
Fink is going to do the paper Bitcoin side.
Lutnick is going to do probably the treasury companies.
I think he's going to play a huge role on that side because they have to make a market.
Once they make the market and they get the United States in, then they can effectively
try to control it through the on and off ramps.
The stable coins will be actually how they control inflation on the fiat side.
That's how I've made the diagnosis.
Do I think the three later agencies are behind Bitcoin?
I do not.
I have never felt that way because I don't think they're smart enough to figure that out.
I think I laid out very clearly on the What Is Money podcast with Redlock exactly how Bitcoin came to be.
It was a mistake.
okay the architects of it let it go and become open sourced and this was the greatest mistake
i think in human history why because it allowed the regular joe to have a loydy title that's the
reason why i've said to you in this podcast very clearly that every time you buy a satoshi you are
putting the people that killed charlie kirk in jail and i'm going to say it to you again
I think the reason Tucker said what he said is because he's part of the empire. They want you to believe that the CIA is behind this. They want you to believe they're that smart, but they're not. And if they were that smart, then I'd ask you as a first principle decentralized thinker, Brandon, you tell me why Besson came out and said, we will confiscate Bitcoin.
If you built it and you think you have a trap door behind it, why would you need to confiscate it?
I mean, technically, there's a million Satoshi coins sitting on the blockchain.
What the fuck do you need ours for? Got it?
So I'm going to tell you that story makes no sense when you actually put it together.
And I'm going to tell you that this decentralized monetary network is the biggest threat to centralized institutions on the planet now.
And the guys that have been hired by Rockefeller Medicine and Rockefeller and Rothschild Finance to put a stop to it, they're in Belgium.
It's Lutnick and it's fake.
And I want to remind you who Lutnick was.
in Vegas last year. He came on the stage and he told you, I'm the largest primary broker dealer
in the world with Cantor Fitzgerald. So what does that mean? I'm the biggest whore for the
American Treasury Department. That's basically what that means. So he controls the bond market.
The bond market right now is undergoing controlled demolition. And what they need to do
is they need to use the stable coins to try to control interest rates. And here's the funny part.
Trump is having a huge battle with the 12 families and controlling interest rates.
Why? Because the largest single line item thing on our budget is paying the debt, the interest on the debt.
When that number goes up, it puts a noose around your neck.
Why do the Fed, why haven't they opted to help Trump out here?
Because let's be very clear here.
They hold all the cards.
They believe they hold the cards.
The number one thing that they don't hold is Bitcoin.
And if fiat money was truly to fail overnight, the only people that would survive that tsunami event are people that are orange built.
People that even own a small amount of Bitcoin.
The problem is, if that truly happened and we did get to hyperinflation or say a deflationary spiral, that spiral,
it would also take out the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.
So they're not wanting to go that route.
That's the reason why they're trying to morph into the CBDC,
which is what's happening in the Commonwealth countries.
The BRICS countries are trying to do the gold angle,
but gold compared to Bitcoin is like, you know, I don't know,
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Stays above the Brexit country, stays above China, stays above the fray.
What eventually they do is they do a controlled demolition of the U.S. Treasury market and install Bitcoin.
Do I think that's going to happen over the next 25, 30 years?
Yeah.
Do I think that Bitcoin needs the United States in this game?
No.
The United States treasury market needs Bitcoin more than Bitcoiners need American government.
And that's also why I sent a tweet out today, basically telling David Bailey, wake the fuck up.
You got to stop kissing their ass, dude.
I mean, and I understand why he's doing it, because he thinks the easiest path is to get Trump to do what they want him to do.
Well, guess what? The guy that likely would carry the torch of Trump's legacy just got shot in his carotid artery on the left side.
And that was a pretty good warning shot to Trump.
If you persist and continue on doing what you're doing, we will take out other people.
And that's why I think the next person likely to go is Bobby.
Why?
Because what's the biggest Cantillion effect in the world right now?
It's Big Farmer.
It's not even close.
I think all the other stuff, the stuff that you saw with Casey and Callie Means, how they
tried to morph everything to Fruit Loops and, you know, Red Dye number four, that was the original
first six months plan to, to put Bobby and Amber. And you saw how violently I responded to that.
I mean, to this day, I am still pissed off at Bobby for doing what he did and allowing
Nicole to get sidelined by Susie Walsh.
But what I saw the last couple of weeks
when I saw Aaron Seary deliver nuclear bomb
after nuclear bomb in that Senate testimony,
I was like, okay, we may have a shot here,
but we have to subtract out all the superfluous
and focus in on.
Do I think that what Aaron said
and the video of Charlie's carotid artery
expelling liters of blood are related.
I do.
I believe they are related.
And I believe this is a warning shot
to Trump's legacy and Trump's team
that these guys are not going to go down without a fight.
They're not.
Yeah, and it seems like that fight is just ramping up here
And it's, you know, they're getting more creative with how they're looking at the control factor of it all.
So how do you see this, I guess, you know, developing over time?
And do you think that it's just going to get worse under the ruse that, hey, you know what, we're actually here to help you?
Because it seems like that's kind of the overall narrative.
That's why, you know, Trump was elected.
This this go around was, OK, you know what, we're going to drain the swamp kind of similar to his last narrative.
You know, what you're describing is it's really not the case. It's just kind of a backdoor.
Yeah, I would tell you, on the political side, I probably got as political as I'm ever going to get probably in the last two or three years.
But I did that really because of COVID, not because of anything else.
I believe that COVID was a compliance test for a coming economic reset.
I believe that Team Trump was better able to handle that reset than the side that would have been Kamala and Walls.
I think you would have gotten absolute anarchy and communism, you know, a la Venezuela, after probably one midterm election under them.
And I still think that the United States, people who live in the United States, they don't realize how close you are to fascism and communism right now.
I think most of you young kids, you think you're smarter than you are.
I think if Trump does not get the U.S. Treasury market backed by Bitcoin before the midterm election, you have a duty as a patriot.
Brandon, you're going to have to bail on your country.
You're going to have to go somewhere else and you're going to have to, you know, lick your wounds.
And then we're going to have to come back and fight for our country down the road.
But I'm going to be very clear about this.
Let me tell you the flip side of this, why Bitcoiners still don't lose in the opposite effect.
Say we do get Kamala and Tim Walls or a version of that, you know, through the midterms.
you go through a CBDC overnight. Do you know what the price of Bitcoin will be? Literally,
as soon as that happens, you'll be in the millions of dollars. You'll actually have money implode.
You'll get a CBDC. Everybody will be on UBI. But Bitcoin will be a million, two million,
three million dollars. Do you know what that does then? That creates guys like Max Keiser
are sitting on 10,000 coins,
they become as powerful
as the U.S. military.
They'll be able to hire armies.
Marty Bent,
I said this to Marty Bent
and I'm saying it to you.
There's going to be a group of us
that don't think we're going to take this sitting on the chin.
We are going to be faced with the decision
that the people in the colonies were faced with in 1774.
Look, we're just farmers.
We just want to live.
We're not really into fighting,
but we will put our pitchforks down,
and we will shoot at the king,
whoever the king is at that time.
Do I think that we're headed to that civil war?
Do I think we're headed to American Revolution 2.0?
Yeah, I believe that.
And I think Emma Robinson's tweet also says that.
I think it was very interesting her being, you know, as part of Lindell News Network and her boss, who is basically shit on by the government.
You're getting her to say something really accurate.
She's not Mockingbird Media.
She's telling you the truth.
Remember, that's what our founding fathers really wanted.
Same thing I feel about Elijah Schaefer.
I think he's hyperbolic on certain things, but there's a lot of things he's pretty accurate on.
And he's unpopular in some groups because of the positions that he holds.
But the savages need to parse what he's saying to see where the problem is.
And I think he's made a mistake as well.
I don't think he needs to be based in the United States.
I think he needs to be based in El Salvador.
And I think he needs to realize that Bitcoin is the key.
And, you know, I'll break some news.
Most people don't know this.
I just helped him secure some financing, you know, for his private news endeavor.
And did we use two decentralized savages to help him out?
You know, similar to what we did with the daylight computer.
The answer is yes.
so if you think that uncle jack isn't trying to do things while i'm floating in the pacific ocean
you're fucking wrong like i'm gonna tell you the point i'm trying to make to you brandon so you
hear me clearly that when people have economic power they can do things that the other side
doesn't think they can do okay and that's why it's important for brandon keys to understand
And fuck, I got an extra 200 bucks this month.
I'm going to fucking get on strike and buy Bitcoin.
And I'm going to put that shit in my cold wallet.
I'm not going to leave it out so Besson can fucking steal it.
I'm being very clear with you here.
I'm not pulling any punches.
I'm telling you what you need to do because eventually you may not have as much Bitcoin as I do.
But someday you may have to come over my house and eat Viana sausages.
and why because you're going to be one of the people that we need to fight back for our country
i think it's probably going to happen outside my lifetime but why am i passionate about it
i have a son that's your age you don't think i care about him when i talk to a guy like you
i feel like i'm talking to my son or my daughter i want you to understand that you know the way i
look at this battle, what we're talking about is the way I look at the trees in my backyard in El
Salvador. Some jackass 200 years ago planted those trees. He didn't get the benefit of those trees,
but I do now. So I look at why do I have to have this discussion with a young kid like you?
Because I want you to understand, just like Charlie Kirk tried to get you to understand,
This shit matters. Like you have to spill blood for freedom. Charlie just spilt his blood all over Utah State in front of the whole world. And if you don't think that that isn't tied to what happened in that American Revolution, what happened in Philadelphia during those founding documents, what happened in World War I, what happened in World War II, what happened in Vietnam, what happened in the Korean War, what happened in Afghanistan, the Iraq War.
You had people out there spilling blood for this huge criminal enterprise.
Well, what's going to happen when you have to spill it for you?
Freedom.
Actually really get your country back.
You know what that means?
That means that we need future, like your kids.
You understand why I'm so passionate about the vaccine story?
Because I know that the people in DARPA and the DOD are poisoning future soldiers that will fight them.
And why do I need Brandon?
Why do I need American Hobble?
Why do I need British HODL?
Why do I need Jason Williams fucking engaged in this?
Because they have to protect their fucking kids.
Because those are going to be the people that are going to have to spill blood to get their country back.
Most of them are so fucking stupid right now.
They don't realize it.
They don't realize the game that's going on.
They're like, oh, they would never do that to us.
That's bullshit.
They're coming for you.
Treasury Secretary has already told you what their plan is.
Listen to them when they talk to you.
You heard what Fink did.
Fink just took over the World Economic Forum from Klaus Schwab.
He's not your fucking friend just because he owns a ton of fucking paper Bitcoin.
Well, who's Lutnick?
The only guy that survives Cantor Fitzgerald with his Mossad ties.
Now, guess what?
He's the largest primary broker dealer for the U.S. Treasury market.
That's the basis of what the Fed is all about, dude.
He's not your fucking friend, bro.
You know, Cynthia Lummis, I got bad news here.
She ain't your friend either.
The chicken in New York, Gillibrand, she ain't your friend either.
Okay?
None of these politicians are your friend.
They are looking to suck the blood out of your coronary,
just like that bullet did to Charlie.
and it's about time you guys wake up and see it.
My job is just to have the discussion with you.
It's not to tell you how to make the diagnosis.
I just want to illuminate it for you
and then you all decide what you want to do.
But my message has been very consistent
over the last three years on every podcast I've done.
They're coming for you
and they're coming for you in ways that you don't see.
this is the reason why your circle of six is important.
Those 12 other eyes have to be looking at your back.
You don't think it would have been beneficial for Charlie
to have six other people around him at that time,
to see the guy on the roof, to be there,
not to be the guy that's signaling,
okay, now's the time to take the shot.
Dude, that's what I'm talking about.
That's what big corners have to be for each other.
We don't have to like each other.
We just have to understand that we all love freedom
and we want our freedom and we're willing to fight for our freedom.
Yeah, I mean, you've been very consistent with your messaging.
I mean, that's why I'm sitting here today rocking these blue light blockers from Chroma here.
So, you know, you've definitely helped with my journey on that perspective.
But I'm curious your opinion.
You know, you named a lot of influential political figures,
but one you didn't mention is Michael Saylor.
Now, he's obviously got the biggest publicly traded Bitcoin balance sheet there is, and he's been very influential.
He's been in rooms with all of these guys.
So I'm curious kind of your opinion on him and his potential involvement with this, because there's a lot of theories out there with what we just saw with Intel.
You know the U government taking up 10 percent of Intel that that could potentially happen with MicroStrategy And essentially strategy has just been buying bitcoin for the u government to quote unquote like seize over over
time yeah i that's what i believe and i've believed that since i had a dinner with sailor
over a year ago now in prog but it goes all the way back there's another influential bitcoiner
that you may have on who can verify the story that was parker lewis and um ever since that
time i felt that sailor was going to be compromised by latnik by fink and by whatever
politician that was in dc why because um they need him more than he needs them and the thing is if you
think about what i said to you earlier when you have 650 000 bitcoin uh you basically are charlie
Kirk of the Bitcoiners. And you are very, you have a huge target on you. And I told you before,
the one thing that Lutnick is an expert at, and give him some credit, he's a huge market maker in
the US Treasury market. You need to understand to make a market in Bitcoin, you need to control
about a million Bitcoin. And if you take all the Treasury companies that are out there,
I can guarantee you that what I believe is happening, and I don't have any proof of this.
I believe the reason this cycle has been radically different than any others is that the U.S. government is helping price suppression through paper Bitcoin with Fink so that Saylor can get to a million coins.
once Saylor gets to a million coins,
then I believe he becomes the Elon Musk of Bitcoin,
meaning that he is effectively the Lee Harvey Oswald.
Do I believe people who own microstrategy
will be paid handsomely for this?
Do I believe Saylor will be paid handsomely for this?
Is this the reason why Saylor's talking shit about private custody?
Yes, I believe all of these things fit.
Now, do I think Saylor is a bad actor for us right now?
No.
But do I trust him?
I put him in the same category that I put Trump in, that I put Cynthia Lumison, that I put Gillibrand in.
They're your friends now, but will they be your friends down the road?
And do I believe that Saylor is going on the same type of Charlie Kirk theme in these meetings to keep whipping up support so that he can continue to basically use the security markets to raise money to get to that million coin market?
Yeah, there's other players in it.
Jack O'Neill is involved.
But I think Jack is really behind the eight ball.
I think if you remember one of the key tweets of 2024, 2025,
I mentioned it in a couple of the podcasts, but I'll mention it here.
When Dorsey put out the AI tweet of Sailor morphing into something else,
I think that was a big clue that he viewed Sale of the same way I do.
And I'm just going to tell you, I don't think you can trust him either.
And I think right now he's team orange, but I don't think he's, like, especially for your generation, Brandon, I don't think you can give him any leeway.
When I was in Prague this year, I did a podcast with Bitcoin Archie of Bitcoin Archive.
And boy, did I, I only put a little bit of my two cents into this.
And boy, did he even push back?
He goes, but Jack, from game theory, you would think this could happen.
I'm like, no, no one in game theory would have predicted that a corporation would amass this much Bitcoin to make a market.
and you need to realize what does that mean game theory wise it means that yeah you can champion
bitcoin you can have david bailey and everybody bring them onto stages but you need to realize
what he's saying how he interacts with lutnik how he deals with fink i think fink taking over
the world economic form is a really really bad sign um but most of what fink owns a lot of it
through price suppression is the paper side of Bitcoin.
But, I mean, BlackRock owns a ton of Bitcoin just like Sailor does.
And they have already shown in security-based markets
that they can affect behavioral change when they own enough.
And if you think about BlackRock and Sailor,
some people that are my friends, and I won't mention who,
they think that that market control is already in place.
So I still think that we'll see if that's true before the midterms.
We've been promised these changes through Lummis and Gillibrand for a really long time.
I don't see it happening, to be quite frankly to you.
I think that the powers that be may think that they have enough Bitcoin already between
seller and think that they can make the market and go from there because this current cycle
absolutely makes no sense to me at all. When you think about everybody's in, where the prices are,
I just think that they're being held down so that the key players can continue to lever up to get as
much control as they can because once you have enough to make a market, they're going to try to
control Bitcoin that way through the on and off ramps. I think the stablecoin story is totally
a front for controlling inflation through the fiat system, which will continue to go down.
And that's part of the reason why this story with Charlie is so powerful, because the difference
between the have and have not, the bigger that difference gets, the more of those people are
going to turn into the Venezuelans. They're going to say, yeah, well, what do I have to live for?
So fuck it. I'm going to start shooting everybody. And, you know, when people don't give two fucks
because they don't have enough money to eat or to buy a house or to drive a car, they're very
easily to be controlled. I mean, Soros has showed us that for the last 25, 30 years. And I think
that's part of, you know, the bigger story. And when you realize that poor people are easier for
governments to control, you begin to see the whole story that I tried to weave for you over the last
hour and a half. You can see how the pieces fit. The problem is going to be that people are going
to be like, well, we know what Jack thinks, but I just don't believe that's the case. So far through
the five years of COVID, I haven't been wrong about one thing in terms of the economic reset
and COVID being a compliance test.
And still, the point I made to you earlier,
why is it that no attorney general
has put anybody in jail for COVID?
Why? Because it's part of this Bitcoin story.
This is germane
that we don't get to this financial engineering
without COVID I don get to buy artwork on this book at a 35 discount unless Australia devalued their money more Same thing is true with Canadians now
How are you imploding the real estate market there?
You've got Trudeau and Carney devaluing their money at a faster rate than us.
Who's the real problem for the people in the United States?
Well, Iran and France.
I shouldn't say France, but Russia.
Why? What is Russia trying to do? We stole their gold in the beginning of this.
And then everybody said, okay, let's implode them. You can't implode them.
They actually have done better since we stole their gold.
And they have natural resources so they can make a new market and sell their gold for, I should say, sell their oil for gold and Bitcoin.
And yet you keep hearing the rhetoric on both the right and left of the United States that Russia's the problem, Russia's the problem, Russia's the problem.
Russia is not the problem. Russia is actually showing you that you need to have another outcar
to the field system. That's really what's happening. And I think the real, the real
diagnosticians out there will pay attention to this. This is probably the most important thing
I'll tell you in this podcast. You heard the story from Netanyahu and Trump that we needed to get rid
of the nuclear threat in Iran. What did we find out when we dropped that bunker bomb in Israel?
What was the number one thing?
We didn't find any radioactivity.
You know what we found?
The hash rate of Bitcoin dropped quite a significant amount when that bunker bomb went in there.
Do you know what Iran was really doing in those bunkers?
That's fucking mining Bitcoin.
And guess what?
What do I remind you what the name of the street is in Tel Aviv?
It's called Rothschild Drive.
What is J.P. Morgan and Chase, Jamie Dimon all about?
That's a Rockefeller institution.
Guess what?
Nobody wants to see Russia or Iran involved in either gold or Bitcoin.
Why?
Because it's an outcard to what they're eventually trying to get, which is a CBDC, which is vaccine passports.
Don't think that this problem isn't an epidemic on the Trump side.
Remember what Kristi Noem tried to pull on us?
Oh, we need digital IDs.
dude she ain't your friend either
so you need to understand
that all these stories
all the things that we're talking about
these are bits and pieces of the diagnosis
but where does
all this lead Brandon
money
money you can't fuck with
orange money
that's where you need to be
and you need to realize
that anybody who talks shit
about orange money
even those that own orange money
like A16Z or
Saylor. When
Saylor tells you, hey, you should put your
coins in a former
Rockefeller or Rothschild
bank and let them custody it
so that you can get some grease on the
top, only fucking idiots
will do that. But that's what
Saylor's saying. Let's be clear.
He's like, well, I got $650,000
Bitcoin. I'd like to get some juice on top
of that. And why is he saying
that? He's now the propaganda
arm for Besant
and the 12 families in the Fed.
They're coming for your Bitcoin.
If you don't self-custody, you're an idiot.
And what did you just hear about in the last 48 hours of the United States?
That the United States now, I mean, Marty Bent put a tweet out this morning,
said they are coming to make sure they can go after self-custody.
Well, Brandon, ask yourself why.
I mean, to be honest with you, when you put this podcast out,
this podcast is hitting every single thing in this news cycle right now.
And it begins to start to make sense when you see all the pieces fit.
When you see the pieces fit, then you have a duty to say, okay, what do I do?
What's my next game plan?
What's the next step?
I've been pretty clear with all of you.
Bitcoin, Citadel, keep a tight relationship with the savages.
That's it.
I think there's a battle coming, my friend.
Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Russia and China, and I'm curious if you saw the clip here recently where Russia was basically outlining that the U.S. is going to use Bitcoin and crypto as like a backdoor to try to, you know, raise up the dollar and, you know, kind of manipulate it with the debt.
So I'm curious kind of your perspective on that too.
Of course. I actually think the one guy who's been telling Americans the truth longer than our own politicians has been Putin.
I really would tell you, I think you need to go back and really listen to what he said to Tucker Carlson.
Most people got pissed off that he gave everybody a history lesson.
But you know me, Brandon. What do I do when I go on podcasts? I usually give you a history lesson.
And the reason why I believe when you teach people history, it makes it easier for them to be a first principle thinker and think about it.
What Putin is asking you to do, we all know that Putin's a bad guy.
But I mean, all politicians are a bad guy.
Let's be frank.
So what I'm saying to you is he's pointing out, just like Gaddafi did, the key problem is money.
and when you understand it's the money
and you understand who's behind the monetary system,
then all of a sudden,
all these crazy things going on in our world
actually become really easy to understand.
They're not really difficult.
They try to bring all these other things out
to confuse you so that you don't see the target.
What I'd say to you in biology,
what sunlight does,
it increases the signal in tissues. Okay. Blue light increases the noise.
So what I'm saying to you clearly in this podcast,
Hey, can we get this plugged in so I can get some more juice?
Thank you. Appreciate it. Plug right there.
Looks like the bar is open.
So now I got, now I got electricity. Thank you. Yeah, it's great. Thank you.
So the point that I would try to make to you, I forgot where I was going with this.
It was about blue light.
Oh, yeah.
Blue light increases the noise and reduces the signal.
And that's what makes us sick.
And I would tell you what I'm trying to say to you now is I think the orange money is the signal.
Everything else is the noise.
And I really want young guys like you to focus in on that.
And then I think when you see the world through that perspective, you can cut through a lot of the bullshit, like the stuff that we all get inflamed about.
Let's face it. None of us are really happy about what happened to Charlie.
And I think the people that have glee about Charlie just realized they actually did us a favor because now we know who our enemies are.
You know, there is a benefit in chaos.
And the benefit is, you know, who's not on your team.
I would just tell you that the counterintelligence that, you know, we're talking about Besson, Fink, Watnick and Saylor and some of the other treasury companies, just pay attention to them.
All I'm saying to you is not saying to you that they're bad guys.
I just don't fucking trust them.
And I don't think that's a bad thing as a Bitcoin to say.
I mean Bitcoin doesn need fucking governments Governments need Bitcoin and I think Max Kaiser has been making that case since fucking you know the great financial crisis and i i think some of the the wisdom that that max
has brought to the masses have been lost because you know he's a showman and a lot of people get
lost and that signals noise but max has been spot on he knows how the street works and
And you have to be, I mean, I wish people would talk to Max more about what he knows about Lutnick and what happened, you know, at 9-11 and how people profited in counterfeit sterile from those trades from the airline stocks.
I think when you actually understand that history, then you'll understand why I've always been an anti-Lutnick guy.
because he knew that Israel and the Mossad were taking down the towers on 9-11.
And, you know, with 9-11 being, you know, the 24th anniversary yesterday,
I think it's pressing that we even talk about that.
I mean, I've already told you that I thought the Butler shot was a signup,
but I think 9-11 was a signup.
And we just heard politicians come out and say they want to strengthen
the Patriot Act to go after Bitcoin.
They are now trying to activate or reactivate what Meyer Lansky told David Shaw, that the Munitions Act had cryptography in it after World War II.
So what did Marty just tweet about?
The government's warning us again that cryptography is the enemy of the centralized state.
And they're right. It is.
So anybody who starts to talk about decreasing the power of this decentralized network, I believe you have to look at with a queer eye.
And I've had a queer eye for Sailor now for 14 months.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't have dinner with Sailor.
I wouldn't talk to him.
Wouldn't even talk about this.
I think I'm such a small fish in his ocean that it doesn't matter.
But what does matter, I feel like I have a duty to say what I'm saying to you.
Kind of like Charlie Kirk had a duty to say what he said to college kids on the campus that, look, you may think that Saylor is 100% all good.
I don't.
I think there's risks.
And I want you to make sure you protect it.
I think the way you protect from Saylor's rhetoric is very simple.
Self-custody.
No matter what.
I don't care if you have one Bitcoin, a part of a Bitcoin, 50 Bitcoin, 100 Bitcoin, or 10,000.
Just self-custody.
And I think the way in which you self-custody has to be solid.
Am I now concerned that some of the people that have self-custody, say, in the United States may have risks because of what Besson has said?
Yes, I'm worried about that now.
And I don't think enough people are talking about that.
I think more people need to talk about that and what it really means.
Do I think that we'll ever hear that at a David Bailey sponsored event?
I don't know.
And he's become a little bit too comfortable for me with too many politicians because he thinks that the easiest path to get to hyper-Bitcoinization is with the politicians' help.
Color me as one of those Bitcoiners that doesn't believe that line of thinking.
yeah i mean i definitely think that it's uh you know it getting involved with the politicians is
always a dangerous game and i've always had my guard up with it and i love how you're breaking
it all down here dr jack and you've opened my eyes to a lot of things that give me a lot to
think about to say the very least from this conversation so i appreciate you coming with
uh coming on the show again following while you're on a cruise so why don't you tell
Give us some last parting words here as to what people can do outside of buying Bitcoin to kind of help rebel and be the savages that we all can be.
I'll make it very simple to you.
2021, after Dorsey left the stage and he came to hang out with my VIP members, I asked Dorsey this one question.
I said, Jack, what do you need me to do to help you going forward?
He goes, just keep doing what you're doing.
Decentralize everything about yourself.
Decentralize your tribe, your network, your friends.
Be consistent.
You don't let the superfluous bother you.
So I would tell you, Brandon, my friend.
Bitcoin has told me to decentralize everything about my world, and that's what I would tell you.
I'm doing it. I'm doing it now.
Understand how decentralized health and decentralized wealth are linked.
They're fundamentally tied.
I've been teaching that lesson pretty clearly over the last five years.
not only to my tribe, but, you know, to guys like you.
And I know that Uncle Jack is a hard swallow for a lot of people
because I don't fucking sugarcoat things.
My mouth's not a bakery.
I'm going to tell you what I think, and I am opinionated,
but you're going to find out when you get to know me.
My opinions are not unfounded.
They're not uneducated.
I go pretty deep into things, and before I open my mouth,
I've usually done a lot of first principle thinking before I say it.
And I think that you have to understand that when you're in this game, we're all in this game together.
None of us are getting out of here alive.
But the way in which we live our life is totally controlled on how we choose to live it.
And I just want everybody to decentralize everything about themselves.
because if you do that, I think no matter where we wind up,
there'll be freedom in your garden.
There'll be freedom in your front yard, your backyard.
There'll be freedom for your mom, your dad, your kids,
your family and your friends.
We'll still fight.
We're still going to fucking talk shit to each other
because that's also a fun part of life.
But we just don't want to be able to get to the point
where when we talk shit to each other,
we get shot in the carotid artery and bleed out on TV.
amen to that so dr jack you're so great uh why don't you tell people where they can find your
work and uh maybe reach out if uh you know uh if they so want you know maybe got some questions or
something like that for for what you've got going on yeah i mean me on social media it's always
at dr jack cruz cruises both k-r-u-s-e if you want to learn about the science that i teach
quantum biology mitochondrial medicine go to patreon patreon.com backslash dr jack cruise
my twitter commentary i think is out there i think if you spent literally one day and looked at my
twitter feed you would come away and understand i'm a different kind of fucking animal amen to
that and i'll put all that in the show notes so dr jack thanks so much for joining me on your cruise
and uh keep fighting the good fight and we'll all keep decentralizing our lives to become savages
No problem. Take care.