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Hello, everybody. My name is Daniel Prince, and I'm the host of the Once Bitten podcast.

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This is a podcast focused on Bitcoin. It's my mission to interview as many people as I can

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around the different aspects of Bitcoin and help people understand exactly what Bitcoin could mean

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for them and for their families and for their future. I hope you enjoy the show. Thank you so

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much for listening. Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of the Once Bitten podcast.

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Joining me today is Rob Berendit. Now Rob first came onto the show and possibly onto the scene

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June 26th, 2022, where we did an interview back then. The price of Bitcoin was $20,288

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because I'm just looking at the episode now on Fountain App.

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So this is how far we've come in that three and a half years.

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And Rob has also come a long way.

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I've come a long way personally as well.

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And a lot of that is thanks to Rob and the continued conversations

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that I've had with him ever since we did this podcast.

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And then we actually got to meet in person in June as well

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when he was actually moving to Madeira.

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and we were all there as part of a group put together by Andre Loja

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who started the Free Madeira Foundation

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and started the conversation over there with the president

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and we got to meet him and he was interested in learning more about Bitcoin

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and he gave the Rob a stamp to start the Free Madeira

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and he's been very supportive of that

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and the growth of Bitcoin on the island

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and Rob's seen this first hand with his wife Sylvie

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and they've both started together,

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although Sylvie's the driving force behind it,

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A Place to Be,

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which is growing homeschooling community in Madeira.

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Very much focused on Bitcoin,

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very much focused on self-directed education,

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freedom, all of the things that we love.

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Self-sovereignty.

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And if you want to learn more about that,

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I've had Sylvie on the show as well.

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A Place to Be is where you can go to find out more.

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You can follow them on Twitter as well.

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They tour some of the conferences and get some booths there,

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handing out information, and it's a great project.

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What Rob does is incredible, incredible work around...

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He's given some talks about this now at a few conferences.

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He was just in Manchester about how we think the way we think

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or why we think the way we do

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and how you can optimize your operating system,

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i.e. your neurological brain powers by decoding that and you know getting rid of the glitch that's

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the name of his new book the glitch his original book was called mind decentralized and all of this

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work culminates from years of research and working with the highest performers whether that's in

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professional sports he spent years at chelsea and then at barcelona he won every medal with chelsea

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under Mourinho and he was on the sports, excuse me, the injury prevention side of things. But then

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he realized everything was about the mind. The first almost hour of this conversation takes place

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with him talking to Lauren and Samuel, who he's got to know over the years, just us traveling as

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a family and getting to know Rob and Sylvia and their girls. So they're very comfortable with Rob

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and we weren't expecting them to be on for an hour, but that's the beauty of the conversation.

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it just unfolds. I hope you enjoy it. I hope you get a lot out of it. Go and reach out to Rob if

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you want to learn more or work with him. Robbrindid.com is the website. Couldn't be easier.

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He's posting on X. He's posting on Noster as well. A lot of work about energy and how to

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harness that energy, the power of the mind. If that's your jam, you're going to love what Rob

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has to say. Right, before we get into this interview, I would like to give a quick shout

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start an event. Thanks for listening as always. And here's the interview with Rob.

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All right, Rob, we're recording. Great to see you again, mate.

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Yeah, good to be on here and see you guys.

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so for those that don't know uh rob and i did our first podcast my goodness mate we're going

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back some time this was before your first book correct and it was such a i look back at that now

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and i i don't know about you i'm sure you'll agree i've changed a great deal since since then

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and I attribute a lot of that to your work and the conversations that we've had and the two books

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that you've written and the thought patterns that you've put me in or I should say the thought

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patterns you've tried to take me out of would probably be a better way to describe it. Yeah

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how about yourself how do you feel as though you've changed in the last well when we first

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chatted you hadn't even moved to Madeira so that that's really yeah yeah it feels um a huge

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acceleration in my change in the last few years and I'm really enjoying Madeira now and since since

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we spoke then I wrote the book about the hamster wheel so probably we'll mention later and that

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changed me significantly so I'm now I think back then I was a lot more worried about missing out

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on life and and a lot of anxiety and worries about you know fears about where I should be and

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you know my career and everything but I just it's gone blank like that that's not there anymore so I

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just really enjoy my days and then if i get to meet you guys it's going to be um you know special

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anything anything i do is special so there's a i've changed quite a bit and and um yeah i'm so

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glad i have it's much more peaceful yeah amazing all right so the two books uh mine decentralized

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was book number one and i was uh very humbled and honored to have written the foreword for that

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Thank you again for that invitation.

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That's correct.

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Thank you.

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And Glitch, which you sent me a PDF of, and I've been working through and pinging you questions, and it's taken me down different rabbit holes as well.

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But not only that, we have Lauren and Samuel here today because, you know, I feed back information to them.

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And I, as you know, I send you texts, say, like, you know, Lauren's struggling with this or Samuel's struggling with that.

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what could it be?

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And I don't know how you do it.

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Hopefully you'll be able to explain what you do.

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But you manage to map into their fears

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and pull up things in their subconscious.

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So I just wanted to, just for the sake of the audience,

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because many people that listen to the show

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are probably around their age,

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might have their own young kids and families

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and have their own worries

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and want the best for their children

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and see them coming up against struggles.

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So I thought it would be fun to perhaps bring these guys on

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and talk about things that have been affecting them

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and what you see and what you feel.

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And explain it as you would explain it, not me as the middleman.

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And the listeners would get a better understanding that way.

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So I think we'll kick off with example number one,

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whereby a parent might be struggling with or a child might be struggling with that they could be

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in a school setting and there's a test just thrown at them out of nowhere left field kind of math test

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math paper lands on their desk and it's kind of like right act now you've got one hour to do this

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test and uh yeah i mean lauren how do you feel when when that kind of thing is is sprung on you

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because it hasn't that's that's never because you've been homeschooled so many years and now

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you're going to through an actual course with gcse you've never had the ability to to build that

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coping mechanism right rob that uh the engineer that um that kind of that that program in your

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mind to to build up that armor around the fear so how does it make you feel Lauren what would

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you be how how could you explain that well um luckily they don't throw tests on us like

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pop quiz um no they don't do that luckily but it's when they move since I've been homeschooled

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I when when we learn about a subject in math we like stick to it for like a couple weeks and we

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really understand it and then we move on but then with my school we stick for it for two days and

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then we move on maybe even one and it's like my teacher she was moving on already I'm like wait

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I barely understand this how like it was freaking me out because I I didn't understand it

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excuse me and she was already moving on so yeah it was kind of scary

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all right you can see i'm writing down because you have to look at the words that uh lauren hello

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how are you i'm good thank you all right nice thing you again um so

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i'm gonna just say what i found and then maybe i explain how i do it because everyone's able to do

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it it's just we've lost this um ability because we we become uh too we we put too much importance

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on our mental uh intelligence and the the mind is very basic and and uh mechanical and they're

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just scripts that run in it and you know get triggered the whole time so when lauren started

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talking when you started talking lauren uh i'm listening closely to your words and it's a one

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and a zero so they're either strong or they drop so they're either strong or weak and when energy

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is weak it drops and you can feel it if you've trained yourself to feel it in others some people

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naturally do it but you i teach people how to do that that's a that's physical intelligence and

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there has to be no mind so when lauren's talking i'm i'm just listening to the words and the first

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thing that came up was i was looking at the overall situation i asked um using this one and zero sort

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of directional felt sense which is so it's not it's not a mental thing because that's just old

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information what i'm looking for is the answer to lauren's kind of question and discomfort and

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struggle she used struggle i think or you did um daniel so the first thing that came up was problem

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There's this problem. And Chinese medicine, that breaks down into three aspects, or the way that the Chinese look at it, which I very much like, which is triggers choices. It could be a choice thing. She has no choice. There's, you know, she said homeschooling where you have choice, but it's not weak. But it came down to being an issue. So Lauren has, there are issues and they have a cumulative effect on her.

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So if I was working on Lauren, I'm not going to go and start going down into a session with

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Lauren, but anytime if you want, we can.

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But you can strengthen, I can strengthen Lauren and I can't help but do it when I say it,

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that you want to be strong to all your past issues and the cumulative effect of those issues So the cumulative effect of all your issues that you experienced is like the cash that builds up in the back that keeps building

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up in the background, like that you don't delete. So it's just, we have the ability to click our

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cash, our mental cash. So I just cleared that for you. And then the other word that dropped was home,

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but it's not this home but your previous homes weaken you now and if i if i compare the two and

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i say no home or homes it's the homes that you had before that still weaken you okay so that's

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a one and a zero they either strengthen you or they don't so you want to all the families midline

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needs to be strong to all the homes you've ever been to so they either you're they're either

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strengthening you or weakening you and then the other word you that you kept saying it moving on

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but that's not you lauren um that's your teacher so when you said teacher the energy dropped

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and then you kept saying moving on and so the teacher has a weakness to moving on and so that

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weakens you lauren when when you you interact with your teacher she weakens you so it's just

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it's a completely different way of looking at it but there is this skill that we've lost and we

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will probably talk about Robert Temple if you we could go into that a little bit you know plasma

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and plasma physics and how we're all interconnected um so that that's how I work so Lauren you know

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that you're strong to your teacher now and if if I think about you moving on or standing still or

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going backwards there's no weakness and taking tests being tested failing succeeding there's no

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weakness there for me to look at but your teacher so she kind of um does something to you it bothers

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you so keep you strong to that so how do you how do you clear that like it like you just said um i

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can't remember exactly what it was you said like i've made that stronger now something yeah

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right yeah yeah so how do you how do you do that so we computers it's so uh the more you look into

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it we we have the operating system we have the physical intelligence we have the cloud

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or two big clouds right or you know this cloud so all the information is stored there and so we just

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really we have all the information available but our minds uh trap us and block us from connecting

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with the answers so when you're deleting the cache or you're deleting pop-ups you're deleting email

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you just press enter so you you press sorry you press delete um and so when you're working with

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someone you're connecting with them on some level they're doing it but that that's getting into the

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kind of deeper um you know who who is lauren and who am i and maybe on some level we're connecting

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with the same so it can go a bit deeper than that but what i do is i feel a weakness i can

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look at lauren's midline and delete the weakness or strengthen the weakness and delete the effects

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but i i just i've trained myself over the you know like 15 more than 15 years of doing this

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The moment I become aware of it, it automatically deletes the weakness or strengthens it.

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So the midline of the body, that is your biocomputer, that midline.

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That's why the Chinese and the Shaolin, they put their hand there when they balance because it's their energy point.

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So that is our biocomputer.

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The bottom brain, which is the sacrum, the coccyx tail area, that is the MacBook Pro.

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So when you're working with someone, if someone's a cranial sacral therapist, they always look at the connection between the brain and that coccyx area.

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So that coccyx area, if you connect with it, it strengthens you.

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If you sprint and you take your awareness and your energy to that sacrum coccyx area, you'll run faster.

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so how do i know that because i've done it loads of times so you know and working with people have

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made them faster or jump higher by connecting to that and then the brain is the old ibm it's not

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it's not the most important brain so that midline is um where you enter the information so to speak

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there into the midline so i used to teach like zipping up from the bottom of the spinal cord

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up and that's the enter so i i my intention is to strengthen that weakness and delete the effects

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but i don't do that anymore it's just instantly deletes we've gone deep into it straight away

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i love it you know hey daniel there's a brisket on noster um you we pro i i know who it is i think

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but you know i probably met him at loads of conferences but so briscoe nostril he he said

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rob i think you he said it this morning i think i think you hide your that the energy stuff because

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it you're afraid of it being as woo and i agreed with him and then we go straight in here and i'm

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like all right here we go let's go all blue is on the table rob i'm good to go on that now because

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yeah go ahead if sorry if if lauren if if i was working with you the most important thing is we

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get a baseline because the mind is just going over in loops and we're like we don't realize

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if anything changes because the mind that nothing changes when we use our minds which it's just loop

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mechanical loops hamster wheels but lauren if if you if we work together i'd get a baseline for how

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you feel about that the test get really clear on it even give a number and then i find the weakness

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and then i come back to that baseline i say okay how is it now and it's either going to be the same

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or different and i that sounds not important it is so crucial you um keep the mind uh where it is

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you delete and then it then usually what happens the person goes oh i can't even think about it

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anymore but if they've got a fast mind they'll just move on they'll go yeah well you go no no

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no we have to resolve things bit bit by bit and you have to you kind of have to see the changes

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otherwise the mind just traps you in the the bs you know we're going to move on to to samuel and

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an example that just come in within the last 24 hours because i i texted you i think it was sunday

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because he has been suffering from oral migraines.

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And for those people that don't know what an oral migraine is,

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that's when you lose a bit of vision or you might get some numbness in your

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cheeks or in your mouth or in your limbs, along with like the thumping headache.

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And I just texted Rob the other day.

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He said, Samuel's been suffering a couple of days.

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Recently, they're becoming more.

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uh and they're happening what happened thursday night after football training and then saturday

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after the game right and rob's response was he has a subconscious fear his weakness is a subconscious

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fear of success yeah which turned my head upside down and explained this to samuel on the on the

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journey home after i just uh went and uh grabbed him uh and i tried to explain it and i'm sure i

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did a really bad job so what's um what what do you mean by that how's the how's the best way to

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explain to a 14 year old that he has a subconscious fear of success so subconscious or non-con like

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unconscious just we're not aware of it so there's this like operating system that is uh underneath

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running us and we're usually stuck up in our head in the loops um and if you live on the planet long

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enough you're going to see that you just keep doing the same thing in loops and you think you're

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changing you just keep coming back and doing it um when there's a an unconscious um a mosquito has

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been seen sorry when there's an unconscious as in you're not aware of it um he i get that

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when he's about to succeed the body um most things nearly everything physical has a non-physical

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reason for it so the the body acts like a shut off uh oftentimes and so every time he gets

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closer to success he starts pulling in something which stops him from experiencing it because for

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some reason it's a threat it's dangerous to be successful so success is very weak for him so

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samuel you want to succeed right and you think about it all the time you you want to be able

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I don't know um I want to succeed in football obviously in school so I suppose I guess I don't

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know about it but um what I'm what when when I ask you questions is what I'm asking what you know

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not about the unconscious so with football you really want to do well yeah do you enjoy everyone

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looking at you and praising you yes so that feels good yeah yes okay so you're not shy no okay

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because the on a conscious level he he's wanting to be successful but unconsciously there's something

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like a a limit a block and so it will give him injuries when he's starting to do well

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uh it's like shit i'm starting to do well and then something starts coming up that's how i would see

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it playing out um also the the numb there's a weakness to numbing and not being able to speak

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so that when you're not able to speak it bothers you most people say yes but that is that is a

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weakness so the numbness in the mouth oral was the weakness um the other word you use oral

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migraine migraine no weakness to migraine but oral as in using your mouth weakens you or speaking

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up so you know actually didn't you say something that your mouth your whole mouth goes numb when

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you have the migraine yeah i can have that the first time this is interesting rob because the

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first time this ever happened he spoke when he spoke he spoke back to front

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like the sentence came out back do you remember yeah he came out back to front and we were all

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sitting there having lunch and we looked at him we're like what because he spoke as if it was so

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natural but all the words came backwards we're like how is this like some kind of jedi mind trick

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or something yeah and then he did it again uh and we're like what the hell and then he said

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huh i can't feel my hand and my head hurts and honestly claren i thought he was having a stroke

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or something well yeah that'd be worrying yeah that's when we went down like the the migraine

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kind of rabbit hole and we found these oral migraines which are these are textbook symptoms

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but it's funny that you've linked that to to the speech because that was the first that was the

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first time ever it happened um how do you feel about not being listened to um i haven't really

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put much thought of it and oh that happens to me so many times no genuinely genuinely I tell daddy

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something like something helpful I'm like oh daddy it must be that and he's like and he doesn't listen

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to me and then he's like oh I know what it is it's this I'm like I told you that he literally told you

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that it happens so often it's actually really annoying so there Lauren gave me gave me an

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annoying that would be something what's interesting with samuel is when he talks about his emotions

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he smiles and he doesn't go there he just said i don't think right you said i don't think about it

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well you do about it before you do you do but you just numb yourself to it

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yeah and you're covering your face a little bit now

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she's put he's like literally going like that but um you know these are all things you when

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you're working with someone they will be giving you non like non they're trying to tell you what

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the thing is and so the words they tell you will be sometimes very unusual and you have to just

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listen very closely everything there so the injuries that because you do suffer injuries in football and they they definitely been a bit weird right do you remember the the knee injuries that like oh yeah we we we put them

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down to growth spurts and yeah which obviously could be because it's a literal physical thing

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to grow a foot and a half in a year is is going to take a toll somewhere uh but then you were

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changing the football team because we changed um countries and you did really well there and you

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won player of the year and it was so the success came regardless yeah and but here's the because

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i've been watching a few of these dr cam ewan interviews uh you sent me a link to some of them

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and i've been going a little bit deeper and he comes up with this uh idea of um i'm gonna butcher

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this rob uh karmic yeah um what's the language he would use it like he's running maybe he's running

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some karmic kind of uh yeah weakness like he's there's karma there affecting him and the way i

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understood dr camion talking about this this could have been passed down from generations and i know

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you and i have spoken about this at great length so as i explained to samuel in the car it could be

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one of our great great great great great ancestors anywhere between like my great grandfather and

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beyond people would never have met might have been very successful but during that but having that

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success might have brought some kind of negativity into their life and that karma has been passed

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down through generations yeah well i would it would probably be more like uh karma of doing

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things to others and that that needs to be rebalanced so you know it's long been held that

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information is stored somewhere so when when i work with someone and get really good results

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with them sometimes it's due with karma so i don't really believe in anything however when i resolve

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the karma everything results and so that points to you some people may be listening and say oh

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That's just placebo. But I've worked with people who didn't want to be talking to me and didn't believe anything.

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And sort of at the end of this, like in my book, I talk about a guy who had 19 years, severe back pain.

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And he came on and he thought I was going to do exercise with him.

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He didn't book the session, a footballer book for him.

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And it was a horrible session because he just at the end, he said, you're a very nice person.

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But that was the biggest waste of an hour.

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And then the next morning he woke up, all his back pain was gone because he had karma of doing that, you know, breaking people's backs and everything that just needed to be resolved.

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And then he drove to the Isle of Man to make the back pain come back because he's not it really messed him up.

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He's an atheist. And so he drove there and he mowed the lawn and shit to try and get the back pain to come back.

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and it's never been, it never came back.

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It came back one time when he was in someone's car driving it

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and then he called me and then I worked on it.

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It was because the car was the weakness, weakening him,

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and the car was the same model as his ex-wife had.

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And so it triggered all that anger in him.

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So instantly I strengthened him to the car

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and then his back pain freeze had gone.

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so um you know there's this thing um i maybe i i got away from what we were talking about

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yeah but it's all it's amazing so samuel your question uh to me was because i explained

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that this fear was running subconsciously and therefore he would have no way of

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knowing it was even running so what did you want to know how can i fix it

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yeah how can you be able more able yeah yeah so um is it something you think about a lot

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how to be more able no no you don't no i don't well okay you you you're very you're always training

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to become better right especially with your football yeah okay so that is you wanting to

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become more able all right do you see what i mean yeah and you'll be you're always doing your push

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ups you're always doing like you're going out in the garden practicing the football doing your

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keepy ups take you take training seriously uh you've got into handstands at the moment

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doing that yeah yeah so glima sees into handstands yeah samuel what so if i was looking at it from an

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energy point of view but if like if i think um so you your question was how how do i get rid of

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that um armor uh no there's no you want it to be karma don't you because

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you gotta go so if i look at this so it's the the the head the headache thing you want or the

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unconscious thing it's the unconscious thing stopping you from being a success

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yeah yeah so if you're not a success how would you feel a bit disappointed yeah okay so um

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a bit that i think disappointed yeah a big disappointment yeah so um what i would suggest is

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in terms of uh high performance you need to be looking at how often you feel disappointment

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or you've got to become aware when do you feel it and do you immediately go and try and

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improve that's one thing to look at does that make sense yeah because um

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if you uh try you don't want to be a disappointment do you no and you want people to be proud of you

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yeah so that can be a force that drives you into high performance like david beckham in his

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documentary his dad would never he would purposely not say it was good enough

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to make him not dwell and be satisfied.

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So now David Beckham is never satisfied.

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So he's never satisfied with his cleaning.

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It's just everything has to always be improved.

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He can't stop.

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So that comes from conditioning.

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So if we were working together,

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I'd want you to be much more neutral to that disappointment.

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okay because when you get the headache things and you get injured do you feel disappointed

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yes i feel annoyed because i'm not 100 okay so when you're annoyed is because something's

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gone wrong with your body and um you you feel unable yeah okay so if people think you're not

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able as a footballer would that bother you yes how much out of 10 probably well because it's a

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little league probably not much probably like seven but if it was like let's say david beckham

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came to watch you and he said yeah you're not able to be a professional how would you feel oh

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very disappointed i'd be like 10 okay so that 10 energy some people would say oh that is going to

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drive you into becoming a professional but i would suggest that that will get you what you're

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running away from which is that disappointment 10 out of 10 so you have to you have to start to watch

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this disappointment and understand it because the the greats are just completely

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they kind of don't give a shit what the best i've worked with don't give a shit about anyone

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does that make sense yeah yeah it does okay so i'm looking at your overall um

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so the mind the mind shows up in the body yeah so you're we've discovered that there's

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disappointment there and there's a 10 out of 10 and so you'll always run away from that trying to

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be proud of yourself but it will always draw you back yeah yeah okay so that's one thing that

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like that's more important than yeah you want to practice but if you have that that's that's

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going to injure you right okay yeah it's another way of looking at it but like that that's not um

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you're going to be running on a hamster wheel away from disappointment you're you're going to

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get disappointed so you need to look at that and get to understand your mind is just on a loop

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so if you imagine the way rob explained it in riga if you imagine like you're on a hamster wheel

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and you've got success up here and disappointment down here and you're running and running and

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running to try and get up to uh success the hamster wheel spins the other way and eventually

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you'll run out of steam and you'll just get swept down to disappointment does that make sense so

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sam you're not you're good because i can feel your energy dropping now because that's like yeah but

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that's me that's how i like on a deeper level your energy dropped when that was said okay so

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what what it is is you you just need to understand that that will get you only so far

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and so i'm giving you like a high performance next level um not it's not a shift it's an

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understanding of what drives you and that when you can get neutral to that and dissolve it

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you'll just you won't need that you'll just be next level and when you're under pressure

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you won't that that system won't come in and cause you to be injured right or 100 improve

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your performance because the way your physical intelligence takes over on a football pitch is

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when there's no mind but if you're motivated to be you know you want everyone to be proud of you

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you're going to it's that's not uh the mind will get in the way all it takes is someone stand next

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to you and go wow you're shit you're really unable that will trigger you and you'll go what

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and you'll force you know i'm going to show them or it will bother you

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yeah i think we're talking are we talking about like a flow state here rob yeah no mind

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no mind is the flow state is physical intelligence there's no mind mind is just an old loop

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really like in the last James Bond in that Russian bunker,

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everything's like, it's just, it does stuff,

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but it's on loop and it's old scripts, glitchy software.

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So when you look at the greats, like, you know,

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Ronaldo scores that overhead kick on the edge of the box or whatever else.

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And the commentators will say, Oh, look,

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he got himself into position and he saw the corner coming over and he read the

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wind and he's done a feint here and he's done the cycle kick and he's got the balance just right

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he didn't do any of that because he wasn't thinking about any of that just instinct

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yeah yeah instinct is physical intelligence um and then um i you know i'd need to speak to you

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in private to find out if you're on the left of the hamster wheel which is kind of pointing to that

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it's possible that you're on the right but when you said it would really bother you

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that people what what they think about you that that points to more of a left side and and it's

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you can still become a professional footballer if you want no if you're physically attributes and

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you train harder than anyone every single day so that it compounds over time by the time you're 20

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you're so far ahead of everyone else because you practice more hours but the glitch is in that

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deep operating system that i heard because you gave me a 10 out of 10

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and to look at so many different examples rob over the years of uh footballers i either i've

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watched or you've worked with closely with your time at chelsea and barcelona you could see the

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most physical specimen come in with the the best incredible skills the best speed the best jump

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but if they can't play in front of 50 to 80 000 people because of the way that they think they're

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being judged on the pitch it all falls down yeah i mean um it's complex it's because most of the

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people i've ever worked with in a football club are on the right so they're so driven and they

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support themselves i've seen a few come in that weren't which is very unusual but they suffered

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lots of injuries the ones on the right what happens is when they are with a another bunch of

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just say you've got 30 elite uh right siders right siding means that they are yang dominant

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they support themselves they think they're always right they're extremely able and they know it

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that position is perfect for an elite athlete What happens is because they all that level and they competing and the manager Jose Mourinho let say starts putting pressure on them

399
00:41:46,457 --> 00:41:53,258
they will break at some point and it's only the most traumatized.

400
00:41:53,258 --> 00:41:58,477
This is where, you know, I think it's true, people don't want to hear it,

401
00:41:58,477 --> 00:42:06,418
but only the most elite or strong position up there will survive.

402
00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:12,157
So John Terry, he had so much stuff hitting him, so much stressful.

403
00:42:12,718 --> 00:42:16,058
Like there was the racism thing in the papers

404
00:42:16,058 --> 00:42:20,058
and there was some relationship stuff coming out and all of this.

405
00:42:20,318 --> 00:42:23,218
He just suppressed it.

406
00:42:23,218 --> 00:42:27,677
He was amazing at suppressing it, but that takes its toll on the body.

407
00:42:27,677 --> 00:42:34,837
but he could go through everything it's why um the army look you'll find that most special forces

408
00:42:34,837 --> 00:42:42,337
were found from children at home children at home and i think it's one in four were abused as a child

409
00:42:42,337 --> 00:42:50,078
because it puts them through such difficult traumatic experiences that they're able to deal

410
00:42:50,078 --> 00:42:56,298
with the most insane amount of pressure and so you can see when there's 30 players you're going

411
00:42:56,298 --> 00:43:03,457
to see them go boom injury injury because when they get injured it's an excuse for not being able

412
00:43:03,457 --> 00:43:08,157
enough does that it's like a the fuse just goes you know what i can't deal with this pressure

413
00:43:08,157 --> 00:43:15,798
and so i saw it plenty of times and you knew which guys were elite elite mentally because

414
00:43:15,798 --> 00:43:23,258
they could just continue with discomfort and they didn't get injured childhood trauma we'll come on

415
00:43:23,258 --> 00:43:28,857
to it uh right guys did you have any further questions you you can hang as long as you like

416
00:43:28,857 --> 00:43:36,718
i don't want to sam sammy's got one yeah i've got one more um so is there a way you can boost

417
00:43:36,718 --> 00:43:41,818
my confidence when i'm on the ball or is that just completely up to me and practice

418
00:43:41,818 --> 00:43:50,877
um that's an interest so you need you think you need confidence on the ball right yeah okay that

419
00:43:50,877 --> 00:43:57,938
means you think you don't have enough confidence yeah that means your left side okay okay first of

420
00:43:57,938 --> 00:44:05,597
all so um so if boost your confidence um when you're on the ball there's a weakness

421
00:44:05,597 --> 00:44:12,957
so strengthen that okay if we were you and me were talking privately i go through baseline and make you

422
00:44:12,957 --> 00:44:23,457
feel the shift okay um so confidence um so if if i think about you right now the thing that comes up

423
00:44:23,457 --> 00:44:31,637
is fear and i think it was what we talked to there's some fear around failing correct yep so

424
00:44:31,637 --> 00:44:39,578
do you have a fear of failure yes no you don't you have a fear of success so you want to be up

425
00:44:39,578 --> 00:44:47,677
on the right yeah you can look at my book and it samuel you're you need to take this seriously now

426
00:44:47,677 --> 00:44:51,818
if you want to be a professional footballer it starts now you need to look at the glitchy

427
00:44:51,818 --> 00:44:57,117
programming so you want to go up and be extremely able and the most valuable player and succeed

428
00:44:57,117 --> 00:45:06,137
but your imp your script is lacking confidence probably lovely guy you you're a nice guy and

429
00:45:06,137 --> 00:45:08,357
you support everyone and you're a team player and everything,

430
00:45:08,778 --> 00:45:15,438
but you have to be completely able to support yourself and not give a shit about anyone else

431
00:45:15,438 --> 00:45:17,377
if you want to be a pro athlete.

432
00:45:17,938 --> 00:45:19,238
So you can do that.

433
00:45:19,337 --> 00:45:20,818
Your setup is not optimal.

434
00:45:21,798 --> 00:45:24,038
I'm just being honest with you because you're on the left,

435
00:45:24,038 --> 00:45:30,078
but you can still get really great, especially, or I would say only if you do this work of

436
00:45:30,078 --> 00:45:31,957
seeing how often you're fearful.

437
00:45:33,778 --> 00:45:35,157
What's your biggest fear?

438
00:45:36,137 --> 00:45:50,778
success no like you in your head um i don't know right now yeah what what do you fear like

439
00:45:50,778 --> 00:45:59,038
do you have like a phobia or like do you like fear like what about people criticizing you

440
00:45:59,038 --> 00:46:06,877
oh yeah yeah that i'm not yeah i'm not a fan of that okay so that what i want you to do is it's a

441
00:46:06,877 --> 00:46:13,278
game you start the game i want you to watch how often you're fearful and that's just an old program

442
00:46:13,278 --> 00:46:21,598
it's not you it's an old script and so i want you to see how often you're fearful and as you

443
00:46:21,598 --> 00:46:28,977
see the fear the fearful thought i want you to see how your mind goes to i need to work harder

444
00:46:28,977 --> 00:46:32,038
or I need to be better so that that doesn't happen.

445
00:46:32,798 --> 00:46:34,778
But the fear is always there.

446
00:46:35,117 --> 00:46:38,337
And so I want you to get to know it really well.

447
00:46:38,518 --> 00:46:42,377
And we can talk another time, but the game has started

448
00:46:42,377 --> 00:46:45,538
and your programming creates your reality.

449
00:46:46,677 --> 00:46:50,617
So the top guys don't give a shit about what anyone says about them.

450
00:46:52,177 --> 00:46:54,438
Okay, so it's great.

451
00:46:54,538 --> 00:46:55,098
You're started.

452
00:46:55,357 --> 00:46:56,418
The game has started.

453
00:46:57,357 --> 00:46:57,498
Yeah?

454
00:46:58,198 --> 00:46:58,398
Yeah.

455
00:46:58,977 --> 00:47:01,298
I can talk to you more later.

456
00:47:02,398 --> 00:47:03,258
We'll do it.

457
00:47:03,657 --> 00:47:05,098
Read the book.

458
00:47:06,377 --> 00:47:07,377
Read Glitch.

459
00:47:07,558 --> 00:47:08,538
And then you'll...

460
00:47:08,538 --> 00:47:10,078
This is the most important thing.

461
00:47:10,317 --> 00:47:11,898
If you want to be a professional footballer,

462
00:47:11,918 --> 00:47:13,218
it's not about practicing more.

463
00:47:13,298 --> 00:47:14,337
It's about getting rid of this.

464
00:47:16,098 --> 00:47:17,177
I have a question.

465
00:47:17,438 --> 00:47:18,038
Sure, Lauren.

466
00:47:19,337 --> 00:47:19,977
I'll hear it.

467
00:47:20,438 --> 00:47:21,837
So when you were asking Samuel,

468
00:47:22,078 --> 00:47:23,817
do you have any fears?

469
00:47:23,817 --> 00:47:27,817
I just realized that I fear every day.

470
00:47:27,817 --> 00:47:35,357
day like I fear um what I say is wrong or whenever like my math teacher or my English teacher gives

471
00:47:35,357 --> 00:47:41,258
back homework or just like comes around the room just like oh crap what if I got this this question

472
00:47:41,258 --> 00:47:46,877
wrong and then that'll just be embarrassing and oh my gosh like I fear speaking up sometimes in

473
00:47:46,877 --> 00:47:53,238
class like oh what's the answer to this even though I know the answer I get like I fear an

474
00:47:53,238 --> 00:48:00,498
embarrassment of like everyone's staring at me yeah awesome yeah so i just think daniel's there

475
00:48:00,498 --> 00:48:07,558
going like i just fear every day i i just fear about like everything i do because i don't want

476
00:48:07,558 --> 00:48:14,698
to upset people and i don't like failing myself like i hate letting myself down okay and i find

477
00:48:14,698 --> 00:48:19,877
i do that a lot too so just give me a second

478
00:48:19,877 --> 00:48:35,617
okay so that's that's karma and it's not yours it's your ancestors karma of like

479
00:48:35,617 --> 00:48:42,078
making others feel embarrassed and ridiculed so that might people might be going what that's

480
00:48:42,078 --> 00:48:48,337
absolute bullshit rob's making up but if you if you look at it in terms of cause and effect

481
00:48:48,337 --> 00:48:58,157
when if you your ancestors did that to others it's really it seems like the rules of the universe

482
00:48:58,157 --> 00:49:04,258
are just you you're either kind of helping people or hindering them if you hinder them

483
00:49:04,258 --> 00:49:10,817
then the next lifetime you come in and you're there to resolve all the zeros you've done not

484
00:49:10,817 --> 00:49:18,357
the ones okay and so there it seems like it's a record like the akashic files or it seems like

485
00:49:18,357 --> 00:49:25,337
this is all held somewhere and remembered so we're here to resolve things so that's not even yours

486
00:49:25,337 --> 00:49:30,998
that's your ancestors trying to get that resolved so we resolve that you're doing it on some level

487
00:49:30,998 --> 00:49:39,617
and then there will be conditioning within you in your mind that is coming up now and that

488
00:49:39,617 --> 00:49:47,337
if we're getting into the more complexity of how these files that are you know encoded in us through

489
00:49:47,337 --> 00:49:57,258
the maybe plasma then um you that will condition you this lifetime to experience it so removing that

490
00:49:57,258 --> 00:50:06,238
habit it you need to start observing that you have a habit around maybe right or wrong people

491
00:50:06,238 --> 00:50:12,977
thinking you're wrong not good enough right so it's not your dad's fault that was coming in from

492
00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:21,677
so lauren if there's five hamster wheels so what i want you to think about when if you do badly

493
00:50:21,677 --> 00:50:28,477
and everyone finds out does is that the worst thing about that yeah that's like so embarrassing

494
00:50:28,477 --> 00:50:33,457
like when i got oh i'm sorry when i got like my um math it was like this test that you have to do

495
00:50:33,457 --> 00:50:39,218
to see where we were and I only and it was like this like full-on like sheet bit and I only had

496
00:50:39,218 --> 00:50:48,578
like a couple green a couple green means like oh you know the subject um a couple like very few

497
00:50:48,578 --> 00:50:52,357
that were orange which is like you kind of know what you're doing but you still got it wrong and

498
00:50:52,357 --> 00:50:58,377
the rest were just like red and I saw it I like tears literally welled in my eyes because I knew

499
00:50:58,377 --> 00:51:03,877
some of the subjects i just forgot how to do it and i look everywhere around me everyone like had

500
00:51:03,877 --> 00:51:11,477
more and like i i've always had the problem where every time like i get something i look around i

501
00:51:11,477 --> 00:51:17,177
see if anyone's like above or under me and if it's horrible but if they're under me then i feel

502
00:51:17,177 --> 00:51:24,698
better because like oh my gosh i'm not the worst so if you there's five programs that are sitting

503
00:51:24,698 --> 00:51:30,857
there getting triggered one of them's been triggered massively so if i say there's gain loss

504
00:51:30,857 --> 00:51:39,018
paying attention to ignore unable able right wrong and i always forget the fifth you got it

505
00:51:39,018 --> 00:51:46,058
daniel i've got the book right in front of me yeah carry on so unable able right wrong

506
00:51:46,058 --> 00:51:51,117
gain loss um paying attention to ignore and

507
00:51:51,117 --> 00:52:01,238
yeah yeah yeah support let down support let down so when you lauren what you what you can do is

508
00:52:01,238 --> 00:52:07,038
there's a habitual reaction there and it's irrational like you said it's almost bringing

509
00:52:07,038 --> 00:52:14,137
tears to your eyes and so you're getting a subjective um someone's said you're like this

510
00:52:14,137 --> 00:52:18,938
But it's triggering old stuff in you, an old program that fires up.

511
00:52:19,377 --> 00:52:24,218
Now, I think listening to you, you gave it to me, is unable.

512
00:52:24,938 --> 00:52:26,817
I think that's the one that bothers you.

513
00:52:26,938 --> 00:52:30,357
So you look around to see, are you the least able?

514
00:52:31,498 --> 00:52:31,657
Yeah.

515
00:52:32,137 --> 00:52:37,078
And I don't know where you are on the hamster wheel.

516
00:52:37,117 --> 00:52:37,857
I'm not going to guess.

517
00:52:37,998 --> 00:52:42,117
But I think it bothers you when people think you're unable.

518
00:52:42,398 --> 00:52:43,317
Would you agree with that?

519
00:52:43,317 --> 00:52:50,278
i do i do i am weak myself and like just strong and mentally i think so

520
00:52:50,278 --> 00:52:58,177
just explain what you just said um i think i'm weak myself like mentally and like with muscles

521
00:52:58,177 --> 00:53:07,238
like strong too okay so you're weak and strength and in mind is what you think okay um so

522
00:53:07,238 --> 00:53:14,258
that's just a program inside of you you have both inside of you that's what you're here to

523
00:53:14,258 --> 00:53:24,058
discover your ableness um and samuel is as well so if if um how often do you think about being unable

524
00:53:24,058 --> 00:53:31,078
every day okay so that's an old script running inside of you it's not you

525
00:53:31,078 --> 00:53:37,558
it's just a hamster wheel so whenever you you think oh i'm not going to be able to do that oh

526
00:53:37,558 --> 00:53:44,377
i wish i was more able every time you react to it and dance like a song you reinforce it what i want

527
00:53:44,377 --> 00:53:52,718
you to do is go oh there's that hamster wheel and you can just say hey it's okay it's just an old

528
00:53:52,718 --> 00:53:59,298
and so the difference between getting caught up in it and feeling it and crying and going oh i know

529
00:53:59,298 --> 00:54:05,817
that hamster wheel that's the separation that starts to dissolve it and then you can receive

530
00:54:05,817 --> 00:54:11,137
any type of the same for you samuel these are the type of work when you're completely neutral

531
00:54:11,137 --> 00:54:16,278
you can have all the fans in the stand going oh you're shit you're shit and you're just like

532
00:54:16,278 --> 00:54:22,598
bothered like it has no effect on you all the class members say wow you're so unable

533
00:54:22,598 --> 00:54:30,538
you know and you just go i know how able i am but what you're showing me is that there's a glitch

534
00:54:30,538 --> 00:54:37,477
you're jammed up on one side and so you know you you can be jammed you're either jammed up on the

535
00:54:37,477 --> 00:54:43,038
right and the left the yin yang you know um so look out for that unable again you're starting

536
00:54:43,038 --> 00:54:48,278
to play the game you're here to understand that you you are not your mind and the less the mind

537
00:54:48,278 --> 00:54:54,298
takes over the more your physical intelligence will find the answers and we can talk about how

538
00:54:54,298 --> 00:55:02,998
that download happens as it you know in today or another time we'll do another call yeah yeah

539
00:55:02,998 --> 00:55:11,418
right okay uh all right any follow-up questions no no okay yeah we do have tests this month

540
00:55:11,418 --> 00:55:13,418
biology, math and English

541
00:55:13,418 --> 00:55:15,258
let's see how that goes

542
00:55:15,258 --> 00:55:18,078
yeah so you don't want to do that

543
00:55:18,078 --> 00:55:19,558
cross your fingers

544
00:55:19,558 --> 00:55:22,218
yeah because that means that you have

545
00:55:22,218 --> 00:55:23,538
no control over it

546
00:55:23,538 --> 00:55:25,877
do you have control over it

547
00:55:25,877 --> 00:55:29,898
yes

548
00:55:29,898 --> 00:55:33,218
how do you have control over the result

549
00:55:33,277 --> 00:55:36,297
by knowing what I'm doing.

550
00:55:36,737 --> 00:55:40,577
Okay, so, but how do you know what you're doing?

551
00:55:43,937 --> 00:55:46,377
See, that is also something that I do.

552
00:55:46,457 --> 00:55:48,257
I always second guess myself.

553
00:55:48,757 --> 00:55:49,837
Yeah, so you're uncertain.

554
00:55:50,057 --> 00:55:50,477
Yeah.

555
00:55:50,817 --> 00:55:51,757
But you're uncertain.

556
00:55:51,997 --> 00:55:52,977
Have you studied?

557
00:55:56,137 --> 00:55:57,537
I'm going to study.

558
00:55:57,777 --> 00:56:00,117
Actually, our teacher gave us a study plan

559
00:56:00,117 --> 00:56:01,257
that we have to fill out.

560
00:56:01,257 --> 00:56:02,437
Do you think you'll do it?

561
00:56:02,477 --> 00:56:02,917
Be honest.

562
00:56:03,277 --> 00:56:09,757
i think i will yeah i because we also have to hand in so it's like a project

563
00:56:09,757 --> 00:56:17,637
okay you kind of have to do it yeah so if you're on the left you won't you won't do it because

564
00:56:17,637 --> 00:56:26,357
your programming creates your reality so you said i think i will do it i think you didn't say i will

565
00:56:26,357 --> 00:56:33,437
do it but you want to do well in it don't you yeah consciously you want to do well in it but

566
00:56:33,437 --> 00:56:37,577
unconsciously you don't how do i know because you're kind of telling me

567
00:56:38,177 --> 00:56:46,377
do you see yeah it's just super simple lauren the what what you have to do is start to look

568
00:56:46,377 --> 00:56:53,337
at your behavior and you go this is kind of weird i want to be really certain and sure but my i don't

569
00:56:53,337 --> 00:56:59,657
do the work that seems like a conflict i'm not saying you don't do the work but you do it enough

570
00:56:59,657 --> 00:57:06,457
to feel uncertain to get the outcome that you're after that's your programming so if you want to

571
00:57:06,457 --> 00:57:14,137
be able at school you have to look at your unableness hamster wheel wow

572
00:57:14,137 --> 00:57:24,817
that's a lot to take in yeah but are you able to take it in yeah i'm just kidding because it

573
00:57:24,817 --> 00:57:32,017
triggered your hamster wheel did you see you went yeah i feel a bit overwhelmed you said that right

574
00:57:32,017 --> 00:57:37,117
yeah that was the hamster wheel it wasn't you lauren your hamster wheel kicked in went whoa i

575
00:57:37,117 --> 00:57:43,297
feel about you know you didn't even need to say anything you just eyes went like that so that's

576
00:57:43,297 --> 00:57:47,837
the hamster wheel taking over do you think that hamster wheel taking over will make you more able

577
00:57:47,837 --> 00:57:56,477
or less able less able yeah so the hamster wheel's in charge so if you want to do better in your class

578
00:57:56,477 --> 00:58:03,117
observe your hamster wheel because you can work all you like i people might listen to this and go

579
00:58:03,117 --> 00:58:09,177
she just needs more discipline no she doesn't she can try as hard as she wants the hamster wheel

580
00:58:09,177 --> 00:58:15,637
is in charge and so discipline you know you can have people with discipline absolutely forcing

581
00:58:15,637 --> 00:58:20,457
themselves but they're going to flip back to the other side it's inevitable the more you force

582
00:58:20,457 --> 00:58:26,737
so you need to watch that unable able hamster wheel with everything you know really put attention

583
00:58:26,737 --> 00:58:32,177
and your energy into it and then you will be free and then without that who would you be

584
00:58:32,177 --> 00:58:35,257
Lauren think about not being able to feel unable

585
00:58:35,257 --> 00:58:39,237
who would you be without that

586
00:58:39,237 --> 00:58:49,797
well I guess me but yeah how would that be not being able to feel unable

587
00:58:49,797 --> 00:58:52,657
that would well

588
00:58:52,657 --> 00:58:57,957
it makes me feel like uneasy because I've

589
00:58:57,957 --> 00:59:07,597
ah it makes you fearful because who you you won't be you yeah you just gave me that was just like

590
00:59:07,597 --> 00:59:13,477
perfection you it makes me feel uneasy yeah you you you say you want to be able like the top in

591
00:59:13,477 --> 00:59:21,197
the class but you actually makes you feel uneasy so that is it that is so valuable what you just

592
00:59:21,197 --> 00:59:27,237
said now you realize wow i've got this kind of really glitchy old program inside me and it's

593
00:59:27,237 --> 00:59:35,637
stopping me from being able because little lauren it's is scared to go that side start to watch it

594
00:59:35,637 --> 00:59:44,097
and then you'll be free and then you will experience what uh neutral neutral mindset is and it's so

595
00:59:44,097 --> 00:59:50,997
freeing yeah so you have to this is what rob talks about in his book you have to pick up little lauren

596
00:59:50,997 --> 00:59:57,597
to give her a big hug and tell her it's going to be all right oh yeah can you can you imagine what

597
00:59:57,597 --> 01:00:01,817
little lauren looks like not really just look at look at some old pictures

598
01:00:01,817 --> 01:00:13,637
what did sammy say you but a midget hey lauren looking at you when you started to connect with

599
01:00:13,637 --> 01:00:20,717
the other side energy you changed you became more of a woman like i'm not being i don't want to sound

600
01:00:20,717 --> 01:00:26,357
creepy or anything but you kind of you look stronger and more of a woman and then when you

601
01:00:26,357 --> 01:00:34,457
go into this oh you you you go and your whole face changes so you you have expansion and contraction

602
01:00:34,457 --> 01:00:41,537
you need to be you can't be one side or the other if you're constantly expanded you're going to get

603
01:00:41,537 --> 01:00:47,877
severe contraction but you're trying to stay safe start to watch it and then you're going to

604
01:00:47,877 --> 01:00:53,357
to feel yourself, connect to the way, the Tao, the neutrons,

605
01:00:53,517 --> 01:00:57,097
the neutral energy, and then you'll, you know, live fully.

606
01:00:58,977 --> 01:00:59,837
Thank you.

607
01:01:00,197 --> 01:01:00,677
All right, Lauren.

608
01:01:01,977 --> 01:01:02,697
All right.

609
01:01:02,817 --> 01:01:04,217
Any further questions?

610
01:01:04,437 --> 01:01:04,757
No.

611
01:01:05,177 --> 01:01:05,437
No?

612
01:01:05,777 --> 01:01:06,177
Okay.

613
01:01:06,737 --> 01:01:09,977
Well, that was the first hour of the podcast.

614
01:01:14,117 --> 01:01:16,097
We've got plenty more to talk about, though.

615
01:01:16,217 --> 01:01:16,437
Yeah.

616
01:01:16,437 --> 01:01:16,957
All right.

617
01:01:16,957 --> 01:01:21,777
do you want to say goodbye then yeah well you're bye guys these guys are good you oh no you're not

618
01:01:21,777 --> 01:01:27,397
coming to manchester are you i am i'm not i'll see you i'll see you there yeah okay cool

619
01:01:27,397 --> 01:01:35,977
thank you so much bye tonight and podcast perfect thank you bye bye

620
01:01:35,977 --> 01:01:43,517
well that was awesome mate uh and i hope uh yeah a lot of people have got a lot from that just

621
01:01:43,517 --> 01:01:49,437
listening to the way that um you were explaining it and uh and delving into it and if i mean come

622
01:01:49,437 --> 01:01:56,277
on guys go out and buy the book buy both books uh support support your fellow bitcoiners and uh

623
01:01:56,277 --> 01:02:04,497
the work that's going on because like you said uh it how did it make you feel putting yourself

624
01:02:04,497 --> 01:02:10,917
out there with this kind of stuff um with the the second book because it's much more understandable

625
01:02:10,917 --> 01:02:17,517
logically you you know it's like this open source protocol i felt much more comfortable but the more

626
01:02:17,517 --> 01:02:22,357
i became aware that i was comfortable with that the more i became aware that i was uncomfortable

627
01:02:22,357 --> 01:02:31,977
with this non-physical side um but both uh fit into the framework you can't

628
01:02:32,897 --> 01:02:40,677
you know um if i would say to someone who has no idea you know glitch start there it's absolutely

629
01:02:40,677 --> 01:02:45,277
the most valuable thing you can do because it's the mind that traps us.

630
01:02:46,557 --> 01:02:48,277
You know, all Bitcoiners want to be free.

631
01:02:49,537 --> 01:02:55,037
And, you know, there's no freedom within that closed system, which is glitchy.

632
01:02:55,697 --> 01:03:00,257
And you see, even with the most intelligent of the Bitcoiners, you know, they're getting

633
01:03:00,257 --> 01:03:06,377
triggered and you can see it with the, you know, the knots and the core thing.

634
01:03:06,537 --> 01:03:08,097
There's, you know, everyone's getting triggered.

635
01:03:08,097 --> 01:03:11,017
People are feeling unable and scared and fearful.

636
01:03:11,217 --> 01:03:15,257
And so it's triggering extreme responses, triggering the wheels.

637
01:03:15,997 --> 01:03:20,557
Glitch has got a whole chapter, nine and three quarters from the Harry Potter movie.

638
01:03:20,877 --> 01:03:24,177
I put in that and everyone's like, you shouldn't put in anything about Bitcoin.

639
01:03:24,537 --> 01:03:25,737
It had to be in there.

640
01:03:25,817 --> 01:03:30,897
So what I wanted to do was that to be a bit of a Trojan horse and people understand, especially

641
01:03:30,897 --> 01:03:38,037
self-help, spiritual people, that in this reality, you have to look at the bigger wheels

642
01:03:38,037 --> 01:03:39,337
that are spinning everyone.

643
01:03:40,217 --> 01:03:43,777
And so, you know, Bitcoiners, you know,

644
01:03:43,937 --> 01:03:45,417
don't necessarily need,

645
01:03:45,697 --> 01:03:47,617
they'll maybe get something out of that chapter,

646
01:03:47,797 --> 01:03:49,037
you know, seeing the bigger picture.

647
01:03:49,337 --> 01:03:54,157
But the book is also like a way to get into other people

648
01:03:54,157 --> 01:03:58,577
who think that money and, you know, the economics

649
01:03:58,577 --> 01:04:01,957
and Bitcoin, you know, is something

650
01:04:01,957 --> 01:04:03,217
that they don't have to look at

651
01:04:03,217 --> 01:04:04,157
because they're spiritual.

652
01:04:04,157 --> 01:04:12,777
you know that's um you know that's not not true yeah i love the chapter about bitcoin because

653
01:04:12,777 --> 01:04:20,497
but there's there's no greater social engineering tool than than money and nobody is impervious to

654
01:04:20,497 --> 01:04:26,137
that like you could be the most spiritual zen guy the you could be the monk sitting in the cave but

655
01:04:26,137 --> 01:04:30,497
there's only so long before you shrivel up and die and before you know it you've got to be out on

656
01:04:30,497 --> 01:04:39,097
and essentially begging for for help and food uh oh man at that point there right so you can only

657
01:04:39,097 --> 01:04:46,277
know yourself in relation to others so if you go like people going into retreats and not talking to

658
01:04:46,277 --> 01:04:51,837
anyone so you can do that be quiet and everything but i would suggest if you want to know yourself

659
01:04:51,837 --> 01:04:58,257
go go and live with your family like that's where you're going to know about yourself and

660
01:04:58,257 --> 01:05:08,917
And understanding the self is not like, oh, I need to be able to access higher realms of consciousness and I'm special and everything.

661
01:05:08,917 --> 01:05:16,057
It's understanding the truth that you are controlled by these very simple programs.

662
01:05:16,657 --> 01:05:24,357
And so you get in India, you get these higher spiritual beings that can hold their arm up for all their life.

663
01:05:24,357 --> 01:05:40,657
They just sit there and people give them loads of money. Wow. He can hold his arm up forever. Like it's welded. Have you seen that? No. Yeah. It's like this. They've advanced. They've gone beyond pain. But if you watch, they just smoke weed all day.

664
01:05:40,657 --> 01:05:49,277
there's a little bit of a tell so they numb themselves and they you know they get money

665
01:05:49,277 --> 01:05:55,157
and they show look how special i'm i can hold my arm above my head it's more com it's much more

666
01:05:55,157 --> 01:06:00,297
demanding being a good father and getting triggered by your kids and seeing your own

667
01:06:00,297 --> 01:06:08,897
frailties and vulnerabilities and triggers uh and and that's where the real work is done i think

668
01:06:08,897 --> 01:06:16,497
bitcoiners get that like if you look at ethereum if um vitalik was talking about oh we suspend the

669
01:06:16,497 --> 01:06:23,957
laws of physics right and we can do whatever no that's not how money works and it's also not how

670
01:06:23,957 --> 01:06:31,857
understanding the self and physical intelligence and all that um it's based on truth and results

671
01:06:31,857 --> 01:06:38,497
so when i do energy work it might seem like that's complete bullshit but if you dig into

672
01:06:38,497 --> 01:06:48,337
the science it's kind of all pointing towards that um we're more than just our shell and we're

673
01:06:48,337 --> 01:06:55,337
all connected via plasma you know 99 of the universe is plasma and it's intelligent and

674
01:06:55,337 --> 01:07:01,477
self-forming um yeah we need to get into the plasma shit now because but thank you for

675
01:07:01,477 --> 01:07:06,877
the book you know oh you've delved into it clearly yeah yeah i'm reading it now

676
01:07:06,877 --> 01:07:14,317
right okay uh how deep how far are you into it i think i'm on the fifth chapter and one of the

677
01:07:14,317 --> 01:07:19,757
things that struck me first of all is fascinating he's he's he writes really well he does yeah it's

678
01:07:19,757 --> 01:07:24,657
called so for people listening it's called a new science of heaven and i can't remember who put me

679
01:07:24,657 --> 01:07:31,197
onto it uh it was a someone on twitter or a bitcoiner i have no idea or nosta uh and i picked

680
01:07:31,197 --> 01:07:35,237
it up and it sat there it's one of these books that just sat there for a while because i was

681
01:07:35,237 --> 01:07:42,457
getting through the other books uh and i picked it up and thank goodness i did look you pick a

682
01:07:42,457 --> 01:07:47,537
book up at the right reason for the right at the right time for the right reason i said you know

683
01:07:47,537 --> 01:07:53,617
uh i picked up the four-hour work week when i needed to and that extracted me from my fear

684
01:07:53,617 --> 01:07:58,457
career and that helped me you know launch off into all kinds of different directions but this one i

685
01:07:58,457 --> 01:08:05,157
had no idea where this one was going to take me like none and uh i wasn't phased by some people

686
01:08:05,157 --> 01:08:10,997
might even be faith by the title because it has the word heaven in there right some people might

687
01:08:10,997 --> 01:08:16,957
have a visceral yeah it's good though you it's it gives you a different perspective on what could

688
01:08:16,957 --> 01:08:25,837
be heaven right and very uh like a much more concrete i i um dug in what struck me the most

689
01:08:25,837 --> 01:08:32,317
was i've been working in like playing around with energy stuff and different modalities for 30 years

690
01:08:32,317 --> 01:08:41,277
but I've been working 20 years as a living working with energy but when I say energy it

691
01:08:41,277 --> 01:08:46,837
doesn't really ever mean much to me and I could call it chi and I can feel it but still there's

692
01:08:46,837 --> 01:08:52,237
something that's always been like energy you know how do you explain energy you can't see it it's

693
01:08:52,237 --> 01:09:02,297
like this energy but when he said oh the universe is 99 plasma and plasma um is self-forming it's

694
01:09:02,297 --> 01:09:05,197
and it's intelligent, and suddenly I went, oh shit.

695
01:09:05,197 --> 01:09:10,197
And so that, I'd been looking for the teacher

696
01:09:10,197 --> 01:09:15,197
and I'd been asking for that teacher to come along

697
01:09:15,197 --> 01:09:19,397
and help me connect with my energy work more.

698
01:09:19,397 --> 01:09:35,509
I been doing it for a few months just waiting And then you said check out this book And I knew immediately that was the I knew like people tell me to read books all the time and i just i don ever look at them that book i immediately got and i started reading it i was like this is what i needed to

699
01:09:35,509 --> 01:09:43,949
hear so um yeah it's it's great great amazing so a quick a quick tldr for those listening

700
01:09:43,949 --> 01:09:50,789
everything is plasma including you and i and there is that what they've discovered and

701
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:55,889
I need to I'd love to get Robert Temple on the show to do a stolen science series because I've

702
01:09:55,889 --> 01:10:00,769
done about seven episodes and I would love to him to come on I'd like to hear that one too because

703
01:10:00,769 --> 01:10:07,249
they know the they whoever the they are they know this but it's been stolen this knowledge has been

704
01:10:07,249 --> 01:10:14,209
stolen and kept secret from us because if we knew how we were all connected people have said it a

705
01:10:14,209 --> 01:10:19,489
hundred times in their life probably already oh well everything's connected yes but how yeah and

706
01:10:19,489 --> 01:10:26,549
now like the plasma for me is yeah it's the missing link right he does um in a podcast i'm

707
01:10:26,549 --> 01:10:32,369
kind of doing a bit of a deep dive on him and listen to him different places and he said you

708
01:10:32,369 --> 01:10:39,889
know this is kept like if everyone knew then it would be like um the church with the bible and

709
01:10:39,889 --> 01:10:46,109
then everyone got it and so they could um you know you don't need to go to the church so it's a

710
01:10:46,109 --> 01:10:52,829
control thing but he also says that if you look at the research being done into plasma if it's an

711
01:10:52,829 --> 01:11:01,609
educational um you know if it's a academic they're not telling everyone else because they're working

712
01:11:01,609 --> 01:11:09,329
on something that could be you know sold you know it's there's profit there's an incentive not to

713
01:11:09,329 --> 01:11:14,569
tell other people and then the military a hundred percent are onto this and they have been for years

714
01:11:14,569 --> 01:11:19,609
And they're not going to tell anyone because China or everyone's working on it.

715
01:11:19,769 --> 01:11:23,529
So there's this hidden work being done.

716
01:11:23,749 --> 01:11:27,309
And the incentive is profit, power.

717
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:35,129
And so what I like about the book is he's saying, hey, there's this stuff over here and everyone's working on it.

718
01:11:35,129 --> 01:11:36,669
And they've been working on it for decades.

719
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:44,469
And, yeah, it's so I understand why they do that.

720
01:11:44,569 --> 01:11:52,669
I understand why. And so all I'm interested in is how can I use this to better myself or better my clients?

721
01:11:52,669 --> 01:12:02,229
So immediate is like, oh, OK, so I have for many, many years strengthened myself to the higher intelligence in the universe.

722
01:12:02,389 --> 01:12:07,389
That has been not daily, but I often do it like I actually use the word resonate.

723
01:12:07,609 --> 01:12:12,309
So I connect with that mental, that frequency of the higher intelligence.

724
01:12:12,309 --> 01:12:18,729
But I was like, I know there's higher intelligence, but it doesn't, there's nothing showing there, you know.

725
01:12:20,009 --> 01:12:31,749
Also, I know that when I connect with my insight, which is my feeling, strong or weak, my perception, intuition, that insight connects to the answers that are there in the cloud.

726
01:12:32,049 --> 01:12:33,689
We don't need to memorize them.

727
01:12:33,969 --> 01:12:40,069
We always get new information by accident or when we're in the shower, you know, when the mind's elsewhere.

728
01:12:40,069 --> 01:12:45,949
so this downloading changes everything it means that it's not about reading loads of books although

729
01:12:45,949 --> 01:12:53,929
that they can guide us a bit but it's about the next level will be when we can like a computer

730
01:12:53,929 --> 01:13:00,149
connect with the information and get the answers yeah that's how i work is is via you know sometimes

731
01:13:00,149 --> 01:13:09,129
like where did that come from but he's kind of explaining the um called the cordial in cordial

732
01:13:09,129 --> 01:13:15,529
the cordial it's tough to pronounce cordialeski clouds i think yeah cordialeski clouds yeah

733
01:13:15,529 --> 01:13:24,409
they're self uh they're non um non-organic self um organizing intelligent dust particles

734
01:13:24,409 --> 01:13:32,709
and they've got um you know uh geometric shapes and they're probably sending drones

735
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:42,109
via these plasma things and you when they can go through walls and shit so it's fascinating

736
01:13:42,109 --> 01:13:49,169
it's truly it's truly incredible stuff and it's like black mirror style like uh stuff but

737
01:13:49,169 --> 01:13:57,109
the tldr is there are two uh plasma clouds between us and our sun and the information

738
01:13:57,109 --> 01:14:01,389
obviously is being beamed at us and this is where it crosses over with jack cruz's work

739
01:14:01,389 --> 01:14:08,309
uh we're getting the information via the sun and the the way that we interpret that into the only

740
01:14:08,309 --> 01:14:12,829
way we can gather that information is through our eyes have you have you got to the bio photon

741
01:14:12,829 --> 01:14:20,689
uh chapter yet whether i studied bio photons like in the 90s i was looking at the russians but there

742
01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:27,389
was there was no way to get hold of that information but everything gives off light the organs um yes

743
01:14:27,389 --> 01:14:44,769
Yes. So there's a picture in that book. I don't know if you've got it next to you anywhere, but there's a picture in the book, you'll get to it, where I think there's only two places in the world that they've really deeply studied bio photons and continue to. And one is the Netherlands, and I think the other is Russia, obviously, as you mentioned.

744
01:14:44,769 --> 01:14:56,729
And there's a picture of like the headshot of a human being emanating very, very low frequency, very weak frequency.

745
01:14:57,369 --> 01:15:01,749
And it shows up as light on the camera technology that they're using.

746
01:15:01,889 --> 01:15:06,969
But the eyes are two black holes, solid black holes.

747
01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:08,469
And it clicked for me.

748
01:15:08,589 --> 01:15:10,049
It's like, holy fucking shit.

749
01:15:10,449 --> 01:15:11,709
That's the one way function.

750
01:15:12,109 --> 01:15:13,769
That's the SHA-256.

751
01:15:13,769 --> 01:15:20,409
light rays come in but that light ray that's got to you through the plasma clouds has collected all

752
01:15:20,409 --> 01:15:25,009
of that intelligent information that has been stored in the plasma like you said the self

753
01:15:25,009 --> 01:15:31,909
is a self-organizing organism which is storing information it could be all information billions

754
01:15:31,909 --> 01:15:41,089
of years yeah it's so far advanced from us and uh that information comes into you through your eyes

755
01:15:41,089 --> 01:15:46,529
but nothing goes out through your eyes everything else comes out through the rest of your body in a

756
01:15:46,529 --> 01:15:53,669
very low frequency and this is how Robert Temple explains how you might when you meet someone you

757
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:59,549
might explain oh they have a magnetic personality or some people might see auras what they're seeing

758
01:15:59,549 --> 01:16:08,769
or feeling naturally is that bio photon your your plasma cloud that is around you all of the time

759
01:16:08,769 --> 01:16:20,029
And the way he explains it is that you are a cloud of plasma yourself and the human body is just that that that solid core within the plasma cloud.

760
01:16:20,169 --> 01:16:20,769
It's fascinating.

761
01:16:21,809 --> 01:16:29,769
Yeah. And that's everything's backed up by, you know, he knows all the top Nobel laureates and scientists.

762
01:16:29,769 --> 01:16:52,009
So, you know, I want to look at what, you know, because there's a lot of people that talk a lot of gobbledygook, but he's just very simple, which is, for me, it's a big green, you know, a red flag is a grifter who uses difficult language because that keeps people hooked.

763
01:16:52,009 --> 01:16:57,769
and he's just very simple he's not he's selling like he's selling you know there's this wonderful

764
01:16:57,769 --> 01:17:06,289
thing and so i really like that about him comes across as very genuine and um yeah i was gonna say

765
01:17:06,289 --> 01:17:13,969
with jack cruise so you get all this light and then if you if your mind is completely trapped

766
01:17:13,969 --> 01:17:23,369
in your ego and you're burning hard on your hamster wheels it'll wreck your light like the

767
01:17:23,369 --> 01:17:29,509
chinese knew that thousands of years ago so we have meridians and i've said before dr douglas

768
01:17:29,509 --> 01:17:35,989
wallace the number one mitochondrial researcher in the world he set up a clinic in china because

769
01:17:35,989 --> 01:17:42,069
he thinks the mitochondrial system is the meridian system but meridians is just qi which is plasma

770
01:17:42,069 --> 01:17:48,529
And so when our mind, when we're chewing our mind, it weakens our body.

771
01:17:49,109 --> 01:17:57,309
And so you can spend all day in the sun, but if you're not working on doing the hamster wheel work,

772
01:17:57,309 --> 01:18:06,569
you know, it does something, but you're, you know, kind of, I'm not saying pissing in the wind,

773
01:18:06,749 --> 01:18:11,209
but the mind is chewing up your organs.

774
01:18:12,069 --> 01:18:18,850
When you were talking to Lauren earlier, I think you used the terminology midline, and you talk about it in your book, I think Cam Yuan does it.

775
01:18:19,309 --> 01:18:28,969
Is that as well, like when you look at like the ancient Chinese medicine, that line, is that the chakras as well?

776
01:18:29,189 --> 01:18:33,509
Like you talked about the coccyx, and I don't remember the colors or the names of them.

777
01:18:33,509 --> 01:18:52,969
Sure, sure. The chakra system. I studied the chakra system a lot and I used to work on players and douse their chakra system. Like on top players that you know, I was doing that stuff. And what I found over time is it's quite a nice way to frame, you know, particular problems in a particular area.

778
01:18:52,969 --> 01:19:01,949
but i i nowadays it doesn't come like you you can work on that system but you there's there's

779
01:19:01,949 --> 01:19:08,089
something that's much more sophisticated which is a one in zeros so yeah putting your hands on

780
01:19:08,089 --> 01:19:16,749
the chakras and giving them some um chi you know like um i did reiki for for years and i liked it

781
01:19:16,749 --> 01:19:28,549
But when people came to me, so I think I've said it in the first book, I went and see the top Tibetan guy in medicine and I trained with him and he was doing private sessions.

782
01:19:28,729 --> 01:19:32,209
I was like, oh, my God, yeah. And I said, yeah, I've got this, this and this.

783
01:19:32,269 --> 01:19:35,350
And he felt my pulse and said, yeah, you're good.

784
01:19:36,009 --> 01:19:39,809
I was like, what? I said, yeah, but I lack confidence and I'm anxious.

785
01:19:39,809 --> 01:19:45,969
He goes, oh, then you need to study the Buddhist methodology.

786
01:19:45,969 --> 01:19:51,269
And I always came away from that going, no, no, no, there's something that could be much better there.

787
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:52,309
That's really analog.

788
01:19:54,589 --> 01:20:00,069
So, you know, Buddhism is a wonderful religion.

789
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:05,589
But if you want to understand yourself, you can just do it yourself.

790
01:20:06,329 --> 01:20:08,089
There's, you know, run your own node.

791
01:20:08,829 --> 01:20:12,529
There's operating, the operating system's open source, right?

792
01:20:12,529 --> 01:20:13,329
You just look at it.

793
01:20:13,329 --> 01:20:29,909
If you want to take responsibility, but I was talking to someone the other day, I was kind of saying, like, I found that selling the glitch stuff, selling this idea, I'm the guy with one in the queue, you know, Bitcoin at 10,000.

794
01:20:30,489 --> 01:20:34,789
And then everyone wants the quick fix, high time preference.

795
01:20:35,049 --> 01:20:39,769
And this stuff is really difficult because what it means is you're going to question your ego.

796
01:20:39,769 --> 01:20:49,749
you know and you you know if you're very caught in being this very able special person

797
01:20:49,749 --> 01:20:56,149
that why would you destroy it why would you try and destroy it well when you know it's glitchy

798
01:20:56,149 --> 01:21:02,309
you're you're gonna when you realize how bad it is you need to as quick as you can start to

799
01:21:02,309 --> 01:21:07,429
deconstruct it because you're going to get smashed hard the ego and the universe always

800
01:21:07,429 --> 01:21:13,850
sends you where you need to go for your learning so but selling that

801
01:21:13,850 --> 01:21:21,610
most people want me to work on them energetically and do it for them which is cool but at some point

802
01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:28,669
you have to do the work and you know that daniel you know you you're doing the work and it's not easy

803
01:21:28,669 --> 01:21:37,069
it's not easy mate uh and i i think we're just doing this podcast right uh because we're going

804
01:21:37,069 --> 01:21:43,549
to put this out there and we know let's say a thousand people listen to it 900 of them might

805
01:21:43,549 --> 01:21:51,110
have tuned out within the first five minutes yeah because their ego won't let them go any further

806
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:55,089
than that like this is a load of woo-woo bullshit and i don't want to listen to this anymore these

807
01:21:55,089 --> 01:22:03,870
guys like you know what where's the number go up to yeah um and ironically it's the most if the most

808
01:22:03,870 --> 01:22:09,870
valuable thing they can do is to do this work but sometimes you have i think it was max keiser today

809
01:22:09,870 --> 01:22:16,110
was saying don't try and persuade people to buy bitcoin they're going to need to get wrecked a

810
01:22:16,110 --> 01:22:22,549
couple of times before they do understand it and that's the same for this work people need to get

811
01:22:22,549 --> 01:22:30,309
wrecked physically mentally and then that and only then when they hit rock bottom do they go

812
01:22:30,309 --> 01:22:38,949
uh i can't do that anymore i don't the the rect is worse than doing the work it's just how it is

813
01:22:39,729 --> 01:22:49,249
very interesting mate so the uh just just to put a pin in the plasma thing i think it was a perfect

814
01:22:49,249 --> 01:22:55,069
and it kind of rounded out your whole work because you've all been you've been about

815
01:22:55,069 --> 01:22:57,610
operating systems, ones and zeros.

816
01:22:58,069 --> 01:23:03,249
And now you literally have a cloud you can upload and download stuff from.

817
01:23:03,809 --> 01:23:07,129
I talk about that in the book, Decentralized Mind.

818
01:23:07,749 --> 01:23:11,909
Like we're all connected and there is this cloud, this spirit.

819
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:13,969
That's how I would talk.

820
01:23:14,209 --> 01:23:27,242
He saying oh yeah this is it got all everything that ever happened stored in this cloud it fed from the sun and i find all of that fascinating i like why do i find this fascinating

821
01:23:27,242 --> 01:23:35,542
but it is like um and how do how do we use that how is there something that we can all do ourselves

822
01:23:35,542 --> 01:23:42,262
so the ones and zeros if all you have to do is um you know if you're listening and you're probably

823
01:23:42,262 --> 01:23:48,982
not now you've jumped off but it's that classic take your awareness to the midline or your torso

824
01:23:48,982 --> 01:23:56,342
and think about something that you're really proud of and see how your torso feels and then think of

825
01:23:56,342 --> 01:24:02,302
the worst day of your life and you will feel a difference and that difference is strong and weak

826
01:24:02,302 --> 01:24:08,122
the first one's strong second one is weak the chinese knew it they you turn your feet in it

827
01:24:08,122 --> 01:24:13,422
strengthens you turn your feet out it weakens you place your hands away from you weakens you

828
01:24:13,422 --> 01:24:19,542
place your hands towards you strengthens you that's why all the qigong movements are either

829
01:24:19,542 --> 01:24:27,662
they're using either strengthening or one part is weakening like moving the energy so the so

830
01:24:27,662 --> 01:24:34,942
you know the logical coder type is so in their head that they're going what i have a body i can

831
01:24:34,942 --> 01:24:41,182
feel it yeah but that's there's a physical intelligence there like a sixth sense and

832
01:24:41,182 --> 01:24:50,002
don't trust me you know i'm not like do it and i worked out all myself like i did the hard you know

833
01:24:50,002 --> 01:24:55,422
work of trying it out and seeing and then i'm like wow and then you get more and more results

834
01:24:55,422 --> 01:25:00,922
with it and you go wow i can't explain this but it works that's that's how you do through

835
01:25:00,922 --> 01:25:06,782
observation it's like science is done through you try something and does it what's the result oh it

836
01:25:06,782 --> 01:25:11,782
works i'm going to try it again and again and again it works every time the the hamster wheel

837
01:25:11,782 --> 01:25:19,702
stuff the more i work with people the more they're like holy shit that's me and so all all it tells

838
01:25:19,702 --> 01:25:26,222
me is that there's this protocol in the mind there's glitchy oh by the way i think it interacts

839
01:25:26,222 --> 01:25:33,962
with the universe via plasma dynamics and it creates exactly what your life is based off on

840
01:25:33,962 --> 01:25:39,922
that internal coding so if you want to change anything in the world don't shout at the world

841
01:25:39,922 --> 01:25:45,102
look at your own coding to change the world and you know that's been said many times right

842
01:25:45,102 --> 01:25:51,002
all right let's do some gab or marty stuff because i think that's really important for

843
01:25:51,002 --> 01:25:58,182
people to understand that a lot of this a lot of these hamster wheels are driven by trauma and

844
01:25:58,182 --> 01:26:06,662
that is derived from experiences you've had since birth I mean birth is as traumatic as it gets what

845
01:26:06,662 --> 01:26:12,642
a way to enter this world especially under modern day birthing practices where you come into a

846
01:26:12,642 --> 01:26:23,482
brightly lit neon led white room i just turned on my blue lights and then you get uh invariably

847
01:26:23,482 --> 01:26:27,442
you're going to get jabbed with something and then you're going to be swaddled up and then

848
01:26:27,442 --> 01:26:34,122
you'll be given to in fact they cut the umbilical cord like that's trauma right there yeah and then

849
01:26:34,122 --> 01:26:40,622
everything gets built up on top of that but i think what what most people will be probably uh

850
01:26:40,622 --> 01:26:46,282
kind of it's kind of going to resonate with them resonate there's that word rob uh like

851
01:26:46,282 --> 01:26:55,762
as a young kid you get to school and you are walked up to the front gate uh as a five-year-old

852
01:26:55,762 --> 01:27:01,602
little jane little johnny whatever and then all of a sudden everything's changed your whole life

853
01:27:01,602 --> 01:27:06,642
has changed the family dynamic has completely changed you are now locked in a classroom with

854
01:27:06,642 --> 01:27:12,962
29 other kids an adult in the room that isn't your mother and

855
01:27:12,962 --> 01:27:22,462
is a complete stranger to you yeah and tells you to do stuff that you don't want to do and this all

856
01:27:22,462 --> 01:27:29,262
starts this this trauma mill and these hamster wheels start picking in from there and in your

857
01:27:29,262 --> 01:27:35,982
book you talk about uh very personal experiences and we can get into some of those uh and

858
01:27:35,982 --> 01:27:43,822
how these how these traumatic experiences in the past aren't necessarily a bad thing because they

859
01:27:43,822 --> 01:27:50,702
say like i think you called it um programming engineering program program engineering as a

860
01:27:50,702 --> 01:27:59,582
five-year-old you are a genius little mind that is programming some engineering to survive and

861
01:27:59,582 --> 01:28:06,762
survive yes do you want to explain that and how that manifests in later life yeah so um the schooling

862
01:28:06,762 --> 01:28:17,902
system reinforces the wheels and some kids um you know on the right they go into it and and uh

863
01:28:17,902 --> 01:28:24,842
quite aggressive in in winning um and then there are those on the left who are much more um you

864
01:28:24,842 --> 01:28:31,822
know i used to cry when i remember crying at that age being left at nursery and crying and that

865
01:28:31,822 --> 01:28:37,922
disconnect was too painful it brought up the pain the as you said the birthing practice separation

866
01:28:37,922 --> 01:28:45,882
from the mother being born into parents who are busy and they have other children and it creates

867
01:28:45,882 --> 01:28:52,142
a disconnect so there's a one and a zero so the one would be absolute complete belonging connection

868
01:28:52,142 --> 01:28:58,362
and love and i haven't worked with anyone like that i'm looking i was kind of say like the unicorn

869
01:28:58,362 --> 01:29:05,202
i'm you know probably there is someone but it's very difficult in the you know even in the east

870
01:29:05,202 --> 01:29:11,222
or the west you'd have to be born into a village right and and have your mother and everyone and

871
01:29:11,222 --> 01:29:17,722
there's no technology and everyone's completely present it's difficult so we experience a

872
01:29:17,722 --> 01:29:25,302
disconnect and so that disconnect my what i've found out is that disconnect is the biggest trauma

873
01:29:25,302 --> 01:29:32,842
that initial first disconnect and so if that's extreme disconnect as in the parents are very

874
01:29:32,842 --> 01:29:40,862
disconnected and not getting on and stuff the that trauma gets encoded and your program you create a

875
01:29:40,862 --> 01:29:47,262
program to survive so let me just reiterate that so there's a disconnect that trauma is there for

876
01:29:47,262 --> 01:29:54,682
everyone and then that disconnect is felt as an abandonment by the parents that you're not worth

877
01:29:54,682 --> 01:30:02,942
the complete attention so there's the worthless that that worthlessness then drives our society

878
01:30:02,942 --> 01:30:09,742
so we get on that we create these programs to survive so if you're on the right you go i'm

879
01:30:09,742 --> 01:30:16,802
going to be the most valuable thing and everyone's going to love me um you know uh sylvester sloan

880
01:30:16,802 --> 01:30:23,122
in his documentary like clearly talks about he'd spent his life being trying to be valuable to gain

881
01:30:23,122 --> 01:30:29,362
the love of the audience to only realize in when he's 80 that it was just an illusion and that his

882
01:30:29,362 --> 01:30:34,542
real love was with his family so that's on the right and if you're on the left you create one

883
01:30:34,542 --> 01:30:42,142
where you try and be valuable but you do it by being nice to others and kind and supporting others

884
01:30:42,142 --> 01:30:49,002
so you support the righties so it's like a one and a zero you you go left or right but it's all

885
01:30:49,002 --> 01:30:55,562
trying to be valuable successful proud because you didn't get your love connection belonging so

886
01:30:55,562 --> 01:31:02,962
your needs weren't met so the next thing down as i call in the book plastic it's not real is valuable

887
01:31:02,962 --> 01:31:11,202
so all the great sports people the high level you know the world champions they're all they do that

888
01:31:11,202 --> 01:31:16,822
to be valuable and then when i work with them you know when they get the medal straight afterwards

889
01:31:16,822 --> 01:31:26,442
depression because it's in it's an illusion it's a closed loop and no one wins okay so you've got

890
01:31:26,442 --> 01:31:32,062
kind of it's very simple the child is either on the right or the left i haven't met any other way

891
01:31:32,062 --> 01:31:37,082
there are some weird things where people break literally break the hamster wheel and become

892
01:31:37,082 --> 01:31:44,282
they're completely delusional and it's it's not based on the wheel anymore they they kind of

893
01:31:44,282 --> 01:31:50,702
they they they're trying to be on the right it all costs not to go to the other side but it becomes

894
01:31:50,702 --> 01:31:59,482
pathological and and the mental illness or or extreme uh personality disorder okay so you got

895
01:31:59,482 --> 01:32:04,022
this left and the right and so that trauma what i found is when i'm working with someone who then

896
01:32:04,022 --> 01:32:12,022
has a traumatic experience later in life, for me, the difficulty they have with that trauma or

897
01:32:12,022 --> 01:32:24,482
divorce or whatever is it's that initial trauma compounded. So when someone comes to me and they've

898
01:32:24,482 --> 01:32:30,962
got an addiction problem or they're burnt out or they're being cheated on or they're suicidal,

899
01:32:30,962 --> 01:32:38,142
or whatever i go back and explain that initial trauma disconnect now it doesn't mean they talk

900
01:32:38,142 --> 01:32:42,702
about it that's not how it works and there was someone on joe rogan talking about this saying

901
01:32:42,702 --> 01:32:48,662
yeah therapy is rubbish you just talk about your trauma that's it's like saying like um

902
01:32:48,662 --> 01:32:56,062
mixed martial arts is not effective because of aikido like you you just need to understand that

903
01:32:56,062 --> 01:33:02,222
that was the process and then look at your life and see the framework and it's there you you've

904
01:33:02,222 --> 01:33:09,082
done it you you can see your behavior and then know that when you experience something very

905
01:33:09,082 --> 01:33:17,082
difficult traumatic or you're struggling you have it's the program spinning from childhood so you go

906
01:33:17,082 --> 01:33:25,582
to the coder and say hey it's okay and and that separation and dissolving of it balances out your

907
01:33:25,582 --> 01:33:33,802
hamster wheel and then you don't attract experiences to like when i say you create your

908
01:33:33,802 --> 01:33:41,442
own reality i'm talking you literally create your own reality so you pull things in to experience

909
01:33:41,442 --> 01:33:49,002
you know where the imbalance is it's kind of teaching you um so you you use your observation

910
01:33:49,002 --> 01:33:53,802
you look at your behavior it's just patterns so i've seen that pattern again and again again

911
01:33:53,802 --> 01:33:58,782
thousands of times and then you tell other people they go oh my god yeah and then everyone's telling

912
01:33:58,782 --> 01:34:05,702
everyone else oh yeah it's like a hamster wheel so sorry um no that's good uh and in the way you

913
01:34:05,702 --> 01:34:12,682
explain it in the book is you know get get into admin mode right so as an adult as a 50 year old

914
01:34:12,682 --> 01:34:18,942
man you are still running a hamster wheel that was engineered and programmed by a five-year-old kid

915
01:34:18,942 --> 01:34:25,582
and if you aren't none of us are aware because you know your work is now just hitting the wire

916
01:34:25,582 --> 01:34:31,522
uh and hopefully now people will be able to read it and figure this out for themselves but instead

917
01:34:31,522 --> 01:34:37,702
of you fooling first of all you've got to know why you're feeling this anxiety why you're feeling

918
01:34:37,702 --> 01:34:42,402
this way why you're why you're being triggered why you're behaving in such a way why does this

919
01:34:42,402 --> 01:34:47,922
keep happening yeah like you know uh and then realize ah that must be the hamster wheel getting

920
01:34:47,922 --> 01:34:54,802
triggered now instead of me being a little bitch to that hamster wheel I'm going to be the admin

921
01:34:54,802 --> 01:34:59,242
and I'm just going to click it down like the spinny wheel of death on you you know force quit

922
01:34:59,242 --> 01:35:06,382
I'm going to force quit that hamster wheel yeah and act as the admin and uh tell the you know tell

923
01:35:06,382 --> 01:35:12,642
little Dan or tell little Rob pick him up and say dude honestly freaking awesome job but I got this

924
01:35:12,642 --> 01:35:20,462
now like we're good with this one yeah so we don't use bitch in the i had to pick you up on that one

925
01:35:20,462 --> 01:35:28,342
but um it's under it gives you a framework it's a framework to understand how the mind works it's so

926
01:35:28,342 --> 01:35:35,322
simple and everything should be simple and it should be open source like the more someone hides

927
01:35:35,322 --> 01:35:42,502
it behind the paywall i think there's a grift like there it's um value for value let's say i

928
01:35:42,502 --> 01:35:52,882
think so your uh everything you said was spot on and so we had um moving into adam yeah i just want

929
01:35:52,882 --> 01:36:02,262
to say that i realized that jiddu krishnamurti who's a brilliant thinker and he he i studied

930
01:36:02,262 --> 01:36:08,322
to him and he's the one that got me doing this and then he talked about david bomb by the way

931
01:36:08,322 --> 01:36:16,162
robert temple discusses david bomb's theory of the universe yes and so i saw that and i was like

932
01:36:16,162 --> 01:36:25,002
i like david bomb so for those listening bomb is spelt b-h-o-m and krish krishnamurti b-b-o-h-m

933
01:36:25,002 --> 01:36:31,362
bomb b-o-h-m yeah correct he's a brilliant thinker and jiddu krishnamurti was they would talk to

934
01:36:31,362 --> 01:36:38,882
each other and it's it's big brains really dissecting how the mind works so krishnamurti

935
01:36:38,882 --> 01:36:47,342
brilliant like like i'd love to have met him he's like deep deep thinker and what i did i came away

936
01:36:47,342 --> 01:36:53,922
from his work looking for simplifying it like wow this is really complicated what why is it so

937
01:36:53,922 --> 01:37:00,402
complicated and then i saw david bomb had criticized his work saying it's amazing but no one understands

938
01:37:00,402 --> 01:37:06,122
it. And so in doing so, I started looking for patterns and working with my clients with it,

939
01:37:06,202 --> 01:37:21,935
like observing really closely And it started to build out this map And so what I think this thing here this hamster wheel a worker for understanding humans it is what Krishnamurti says

940
01:37:22,435 --> 01:37:24,935
But it's just more explained.

941
01:37:27,315 --> 01:37:30,235
He didn't see the path, or he probably did.

942
01:37:30,315 --> 01:37:31,155
I can't talk for him.

943
01:37:31,155 --> 01:37:35,375
But I think it just enables someone to put their clothes on something

944
01:37:35,375 --> 01:37:39,335
so that they can understand the dynamics a little bit better.

945
01:37:39,335 --> 01:37:44,155
Because without that, it's like so complicated.

946
01:37:44,315 --> 01:37:46,515
People go, I can't see, I can't do this.

947
01:37:47,875 --> 01:37:52,135
So it's, Krishnamurti got me into this.

948
01:37:52,235 --> 01:37:58,695
And then I think the hamster wheel work is something that is an open source protocol

949
01:37:58,695 --> 01:38:00,395
and everyone should know it.

950
01:38:00,395 --> 01:38:09,255
it just explains why we uh why we have addictions um you know why we obsessive why we can't stop

951
01:38:09,255 --> 01:38:18,055
why we get triggered it all explains it and you you mentioned uh we haven't talked about him the um

952
01:38:18,055 --> 01:38:28,595
wonderful uh what's his name i'm having a brain fart gabo marty gabo marty and so he he's i was

953
01:38:28,595 --> 01:38:34,835
looking for what's the little circle when i'm working with clients like why people kept saying

954
01:38:34,835 --> 01:38:40,155
why do i do do this why do i have this behavior that's like this and like that and i was like what

955
01:38:40,155 --> 01:38:45,555
is this what is it and then i listened to i'd already read some of his books but when he said

956
01:38:45,555 --> 01:38:51,895
it i heard it at that right moment and then i went yes that initial trauma that disconnect

957
01:38:51,895 --> 01:38:56,415
creates the aberrant behavior that runs us for the rest of our life.

958
01:38:56,575 --> 01:38:59,335
So Gabo Matt is awesome.

959
01:39:00,855 --> 01:39:02,415
Yeah, his childhood trauma.

960
01:39:02,595 --> 01:39:06,295
I mean, hold on to your kids is, I think, essential reading for any

961
01:39:06,295 --> 01:39:10,715
Bitcoin are about to have families or considering homeschooling,

962
01:39:11,335 --> 01:39:14,795
unschooling, taking kids out of an existing system that they're in

963
01:39:14,795 --> 01:39:21,175
because, yeah, he smashes down so many instilled beliefs of,

964
01:39:21,175 --> 01:39:28,695
you know yeah and he's so he he's got that age that experience and he's so

965
01:39:28,695 --> 01:39:34,815
calm and and i love the way he's so authentic you know i i've maybe said it before but

966
01:39:34,815 --> 01:39:40,855
one in one of his conferences he says you know i got triggered by my wife she didn't turn up on

967
01:39:40,855 --> 01:39:45,315
time and i felt ignored paying attention to ignored hamster wheel he doesn't talk about

968
01:39:45,315 --> 01:39:50,355
hamster wheels but he said that and so i ignored her and she said you're acting like a child

969
01:39:50,355 --> 01:39:57,535
and he was she said why and they talked about it and someone said when was this like 40 50 years

970
01:39:57,535 --> 01:40:06,535
ago he goes no two days ago yeah so it just goes to show that there's no mastery like it's uh

971
01:40:06,535 --> 01:40:14,155
it's a that no mind or you're caught in your mind and so to be free it's not like you go

972
01:40:14,155 --> 01:40:19,495
and you take your mind away we always have a mind it's just understanding it

973
01:40:19,495 --> 01:40:25,535
you don't hold and try and control it you just understand it through understanding you free

974
01:40:25,535 --> 01:40:32,815
yourself i i was brought on to his work by tim ferris uh i used to listen to his podcast weekly

975
01:40:32,815 --> 01:40:40,935
and he had gabble mate on and they they did an on the fly kind of question answer almost session

976
01:40:40,935 --> 01:40:47,595
basically and it within five minutes tim's like i've got to stop this now i can't carry on

977
01:40:47,595 --> 01:40:53,755
answering these questions and a few months later he did an episode where he released

978
01:40:53,755 --> 01:41:00,655
uh due to the work he did with gabor in that five minutes uh how he had been abused as a child

979
01:41:00,655 --> 01:41:06,955
yeah uh by a babysitter that was employed by his mother and he'd been carrying this trauma

980
01:41:06,955 --> 01:41:13,335
for all of that time and gabor unlocked that with a few questions it was just incredible to watch

981
01:41:13,335 --> 01:41:20,235
yeah with that when when you spend all your time listening to people you get really good at hearing

982
01:41:20,235 --> 01:41:29,095
things and you you kind of uh pull the string yeah and he he's like an expert at that and

983
01:41:29,095 --> 01:41:38,495
he pulls the string he knows he knows where and um that comes from doing experience and he's

984
01:41:38,495 --> 01:41:45,135
brilliant and thankfully he's written books so that other people can you know when the body says

985
01:41:45,135 --> 01:41:52,875
no keep your children safe like keep keep your children close like it's so beautiful he's so

986
01:41:52,875 --> 01:41:57,795
gentle and soft and people say oh yeah soft parenting is bullshit and all these different

987
01:41:57,795 --> 01:42:05,855
styles it's like parenting if you want to parent you you work on yourself and you observe your own

988
01:42:05,855 --> 01:42:10,475
behavior around them because the moment you try and change them you're stepping into the mind

989
01:42:10,475 --> 01:42:17,075
you're going to get the opposite so i saw something i've seen so many things like everywhere you look

990
01:42:17,075 --> 01:42:22,615
there's it's going to reinforce this is i shouldn't have treated my children like soldiers

991
01:42:22,615 --> 01:42:29,215
yeah now he's got he's wrecked them i worked with a guy for a long time he was in self-development

992
01:42:29,215 --> 01:42:37,635
kept bigging his kids up now they're completely insecure addictions um you know you should treat

993
01:42:37,635 --> 01:42:42,855
your kids with discipline and the word of the lord and you're going to get the vicar's daughter

994
01:42:42,855 --> 01:42:50,355
like it's it's uh the more you force something and try and control the more you're going to get

995
01:42:50,355 --> 01:42:58,775
an out of control child and so you have to look at your behavior and your kids are not your

996
01:42:58,775 --> 01:43:07,115
they're yours but you have to look what does that mean and you know punishment and everything is

997
01:43:07,115 --> 01:43:14,195
a control thing and you do it because of your hamster wheels so that's where it gets you're

998
01:43:14,195 --> 01:43:20,735
taking full responsibility and it's it's rough you know with my kids i sometimes go you're not

999
01:43:20,735 --> 01:43:27,635
gonna get this and then i'm like as i'm saying it i'm like oh and i walk away and i come back and i

1000
01:43:27,635 --> 01:43:33,815
say i'm sorry i got triggered and my i say my hamster wheel i felt unable and i i tried to

1001
01:43:33,815 --> 01:43:39,715
gain control over you by making you unable and i really apologize and so i treat my children

1002
01:43:39,715 --> 01:43:46,895
seriously yeah and it's the ultimatums us as parents always put down right like but it's do

1003
01:43:46,895 --> 01:43:52,135
this or you won't get that yeah and it could be always comes from our own programming right

1004
01:43:52,135 --> 01:43:56,975
yeah absolutely follow it yeah so for anybody can resonate with this because like right eat

1005
01:43:56,975 --> 01:44:03,895
greens or no dessert how many of you have heard that yeah and now some people don't eat their veg

1006
01:44:03,895 --> 01:44:06,155
and now we're going full carnival

1007
01:44:06,155 --> 01:44:18,075
yeah and and that's another thing like taste like but you know kids taste is different and so we

1008
01:44:18,075 --> 01:44:25,795
we're you know i remember being at um the family dinner and there were onions and they were not

1009
01:44:25,795 --> 01:44:32,395
cooked properly and eating them literally made me want to vomit and my dad said if you don't eat

1010
01:44:32,395 --> 01:44:37,775
them you're not leaving the table until they've eaten right i had to i had to put them in my mouth

1011
01:44:37,775 --> 01:44:44,815
and i was literally white gagging and i could see everyone shocked and like shamed like feeling

1012
01:44:44,815 --> 01:44:52,395
ashamed i felt so ashamed but my dad was probably doing it because he felt ashamed because i'd left

1013
01:44:52,395 --> 01:44:59,735
food on my table because he was brought up very strict but and there's trauma there as well with

1014
01:44:59,735 --> 01:45:04,755
that generation right that's something we've not talked about generational trauma and geographical

1015
01:45:04,755 --> 01:45:11,555
trauma and so we're both from britain and uh going through our our parents being brought up

1016
01:45:11,555 --> 01:45:18,355
through the 50s by their parents that went through the second world war went through rationing

1017
01:45:18,355 --> 01:45:23,555
yeah and you know if you that that's where that i think that's where that comes from especially in

1018
01:45:23,555 --> 01:45:28,995
britain's like you know the thought of leaving food on a plate when a whole generation of people

1019
01:45:28,995 --> 01:45:34,515
had no idea where the next meal was coming from is disrespectful like disrespectful shameful

1020
01:45:34,515 --> 01:45:41,295
absolute shame like how dare you yeah you know regardless of whether or not you like the taste

1021
01:45:41,295 --> 01:45:48,235
or it makes you feel sick like all of that aside yeah yeah uh here's a but if if we look at

1022
01:45:48,235 --> 01:45:53,855
computers like when there's a glitch on the computer and it's never solved it goes through

1023
01:45:53,855 --> 01:45:59,795
generations of computers and so you go back a hundred years try going back 200 years in the uk

1024
01:45:59,795 --> 01:46:07,095
how was it there for children how you know three four you know the generations back does it get

1025
01:46:07,095 --> 01:46:15,875
better or or was it brutal was there poverty and serfdom and um well i know what we're told in

1026
01:46:15,875 --> 01:46:22,275
history books but i don't know what i believe yeah but what what i could see what i would suggest is

1027
01:46:22,275 --> 01:46:28,735
that it wasn't because of the world war although that would have reinforced the wheels but i look

1028
01:46:28,735 --> 01:46:38,235
back at my grandparents childhood victorian you know brutal so the brits you know were they really

1029
01:46:38,235 --> 01:46:46,655
loving or did they stick their baby outside for all day in the air you know like um you if you

1030
01:46:46,655 --> 01:46:58,675
look at tribes like the the book um i'm just brain farting there's a um it's a book by a german

1031
01:46:58,675 --> 01:47:05,835
model who wanted to find out if there were ever any kids born without trauma and so she found this

1032
01:47:05,835 --> 01:47:11,255
south american tribe where the no one shouted at the kids the kids were allowed to just be

1033
01:47:11,255 --> 01:47:18,875
and um oh shit it's right on the tip of my tongue anyway the um the the kids never cried

1034
01:47:18,875 --> 01:47:26,275
and then a kid was parents were killed in another tribe and they that kid was brought into

1035
01:47:26,275 --> 01:47:34,935
this tribe and it would fight and scream and then the other kids would um not react

1036
01:47:34,935 --> 01:47:40,395
they had no programming and then the kid was assimilated and lost all his programming

1037
01:47:40,395 --> 01:47:50,855
um and so that was um something that sylvia really looked into like you you need a community

1038
01:47:50,855 --> 01:47:59,095
to raise children you need really all the parents being open and and understanding that trauma is

1039
01:47:59,095 --> 01:48:05,955
passed down through the parents like programs and it's no one's fault it's just like a computer it's

1040
01:48:05,955 --> 01:48:11,755
like the operating system is passed down without you know the more you try not to pass it pass it

1041
01:48:11,755 --> 01:48:17,435
on ironically by telling kids oh you you're wonderful and you're still passing on the program

1042
01:48:17,435 --> 01:48:24,795
is it called tribe on homecoming and belonging no it's um oh shit no it's uh

1043
01:48:25,795 --> 01:48:31,435
there's something way or i'll um

1044
01:48:31,435 --> 01:48:37,195
all right well i'll find it and put it in the uh the show notes once uh

1045
01:48:37,195 --> 01:48:45,135
once we've figured that out um yeah no one one last thing on uh dr cam you and i found very

1046
01:48:45,135 --> 01:48:50,255
interesting today uh on a little clip i was watching he said be careful of those people

1047
01:48:50,255 --> 01:48:56,955
that tell you to live in the now because there is no now yeah we are constantly moving forward

1048
01:48:56,955 --> 01:49:03,655
with the whole universe every millisecond there is no now you cannot dwell on now like and i'm like

1049
01:49:03,655 --> 01:49:10,035
whoa he's like anyone's selling you now is the snake horse helsman something like that but like

1050
01:49:10,035 --> 01:49:20,635
yeah um i think um because i i uh followed um here's another brain fart um the guy the power

1051
01:49:20,635 --> 01:49:25,935
of now ecart tolle ecart tolle's work i followed that two years hardcore and i talk about it in the

1052
01:49:25,935 --> 01:49:31,935
book that it helped me get through the difficult confrontations and stuff because i was just spaced

1053
01:49:31,935 --> 01:49:39,075
out i was like oh now now like none of the hamster wheels could trigger because i was just now now

1054
01:49:39,075 --> 01:49:44,235
And I was just constantly observing, but it caused a problem in me.

1055
01:49:44,595 --> 01:49:47,995
Like you can't understand what's going on.

1056
01:49:48,095 --> 01:49:51,275
You're fundamentally you're suppressing it.

1057
01:49:51,355 --> 01:49:52,155
You're numbing it.

1058
01:49:52,875 --> 01:49:57,155
And so you have to see the mind wanting to go into the future.

1059
01:49:57,575 --> 01:50:01,335
And that's the hamster wheel wanting to be more able and be right.

1060
01:50:01,475 --> 01:50:07,075
And you start fantasizing about how you're going to be amazing or you go into the past

1061
01:50:07,075 --> 01:50:08,695
and you think about things.

1062
01:50:08,695 --> 01:50:11,535
and nostalgia or painful experiences,

1063
01:50:11,915 --> 01:50:14,695
but you suddenly wake up and you're like,

1064
01:50:14,795 --> 01:50:16,755
oh God, where did the time go?

1065
01:50:17,795 --> 01:50:21,095
Is this what Krishnamurti would describe

1066
01:50:21,095 --> 01:50:27,375
as like true meditation is having no pictures in your mind?

1067
01:50:27,735 --> 01:50:28,655
Something like that?

1068
01:50:29,135 --> 01:50:31,255
Like, you know, you're constantly running that movie

1069
01:50:31,255 --> 01:50:32,135
in your brain, right?

1070
01:50:32,615 --> 01:50:32,755
Yeah.

1071
01:50:33,255 --> 01:50:37,735
Yeah, we talked when we met in Madeira for Free Madeira.

1072
01:50:37,735 --> 01:50:42,735
I think I said to you, how long do you go without thinking?

1073
01:50:43,615 --> 01:50:46,315
And you went, what do you mean?

1074
01:50:46,315 --> 01:50:47,655
Every second.

1075
01:50:47,655 --> 01:50:50,395
But the more you start to,

1076
01:50:51,615 --> 01:50:55,615
if you try and control your mind by staying in the now,

1077
01:50:56,555 --> 01:50:59,815
it's still your, it's an action.

1078
01:51:00,855 --> 01:51:03,395
And so you're still, it's still the mind

1079
01:51:03,395 --> 01:51:04,895
you're trying to control.

1080
01:51:04,895 --> 01:51:06,495
So what you have to do,

1081
01:51:06,527 --> 01:51:07,987
is simply observe.

1082
01:51:08,707 --> 01:51:12,307
And the more you observe your mind trying to distract you,

1083
01:51:12,527 --> 01:51:15,827
the more you see, the more distance you get from it

1084
01:51:15,827 --> 01:51:18,767
and you dissolve it, and the outcome is no mind.

1085
01:51:21,287 --> 01:51:21,847
Yeah?

1086
01:51:22,007 --> 01:51:24,747
Whereas if you've set an alarm clock

1087
01:51:24,747 --> 01:51:29,907
to do your meditation practice between 20 a.m. and 10.40 a.m.,

1088
01:51:29,907 --> 01:51:34,367
and then you, like, it's antithetical to the whole idea

1089
01:51:34,367 --> 01:51:35,347
of meditation, right?

1090
01:51:35,347 --> 01:51:44,247
because it's yeah go ahead no no absolutely and and meditation is as christian murthy would say

1091
01:51:44,247 --> 01:51:52,167
is understanding the self that's what meditation is you if you're going and you're you know you've

1092
01:51:52,167 --> 01:51:56,167
got one arm in the air or you've got a long beard and you're sitting there and your fingers like

1093
01:51:56,167 --> 01:52:02,927
this and you're taking instagram posts you know photos when you meditate um i used to meditate

1094
01:52:02,927 --> 01:52:07,507
say decades ago where i would you know i have a thought come up and i'd let it go

1095
01:52:07,507 --> 01:52:12,367
and so it's kind of yeah in a way you're getting a little bit of distance between the thoughts

1096
01:52:12,367 --> 01:52:20,587
but it never it just no one does it or they tell everyone about it and so it's like a thing but

1097
01:52:20,587 --> 01:52:25,607
what i've come to understand is meditation is when you're getting triggered by your daughters

1098
01:52:25,607 --> 01:52:32,027
or when you're in the kitchen or when you're on the toilet it's meditation is understanding how

1099
01:52:32,027 --> 01:52:34,287
your mind is loops

1100
01:52:34,287 --> 01:52:36,327
and when you

1101
01:52:36,327 --> 01:52:38,407
can see that and observe it

1102
01:52:38,407 --> 01:52:39,727
then you can

1103
01:52:39,727 --> 01:52:42,187
as Christian

1104
01:52:42,187 --> 01:52:43,847
Murthy would say the window opens

1105
01:52:43,847 --> 01:52:45,807
but you can't force the window

1106
01:52:45,807 --> 01:52:47,627
but you

1107
01:52:47,627 --> 01:52:50,287
it will open and that

1108
01:52:50,287 --> 01:52:51,787
is a sense of peace

1109
01:52:51,787 --> 01:52:53,287
and you can pass

1110
01:52:53,287 --> 01:52:56,247
more and more time with no

1111
01:52:56,247 --> 01:52:56,707
thoughts

1112
01:52:56,707 --> 01:52:58,967
like

1113
01:52:58,967 --> 01:53:01,267
10 minutes

1114
01:53:01,267 --> 01:53:09,707
and hours but your mind is always there and so you can immediately come back to it and use it

1115
01:53:09,707 --> 01:53:18,447
but everyone's being used by their mind everyone's being used by their mind i think that's got to be

1116
01:53:18,447 --> 01:53:26,147
the title mate for this this podcast unless you're spiritual i'm joking yeah

1117
01:53:26,147 --> 01:53:38,787
um yeah so the the the when it boils down to it there it it's just understanding the self

1118
01:53:38,787 --> 01:53:45,347
observing the way the mind works and if you can do that and you take responsibility you're going

1119
01:53:45,347 --> 01:53:52,187
to see that it creates your reality um the more you try and force and react to it the more you get

1120
01:53:52,187 --> 01:54:00,747
the opposite it's they're simple rules it's a bit like a game that's why we're here um and the more

1121
01:54:00,747 --> 01:54:06,967
you do it and the calmer you get the more you don't give a shit about being famous and you just

1122
01:54:06,967 --> 01:54:13,727
you enjoy nature more you enjoy you connect more with nature you connect more with your kids you

1123
01:54:13,727 --> 01:54:20,867
and that's invaluable it's the most it's priceless is why we're here is to be present without the

1124
01:54:20,867 --> 01:54:26,387
mind the mind is mechanical it's secondhand it's why people kill themselves because they're

1125
01:54:26,387 --> 01:54:34,467
there's pointless um and so there's one in a zero you're either present fully experiencing life but

1126
01:54:34,467 --> 01:54:44,067
you can't force that that's the that's the glitch that catches everyone you know it's fascinating

1127
01:54:44,067 --> 01:55:00,250
stuff rob and we been going for almost two hours we could still keep going but i know you got a wife and kids to go connect with and so do I So we will we stick a pin in this one and I sure we do a part two or part three

1128
01:55:00,250 --> 01:55:02,230
actually at some stage,

1129
01:55:02,230 --> 01:55:04,490
because there's a bunch more we didn't touch on.

1130
01:55:04,590 --> 01:55:06,030
I wanted to get into,

1131
01:55:06,250 --> 01:55:06,510
you know,

1132
01:55:06,530 --> 01:55:09,930
the homeschooling project and everything that you guys are doing actually a

1133
01:55:09,930 --> 01:55:10,730
quick shill for that.

1134
01:55:10,730 --> 01:55:11,570
So people can,

1135
01:55:11,650 --> 01:55:15,790
can reach out and find out what you're up to and where you are on that

1136
01:55:15,790 --> 01:55:16,130
journey.

1137
01:55:16,130 --> 01:55:30,830
Yeah. So Sylvia's really pushed a placetobe.me is the website, which is a community of like-minded people fear-proofing their kids or future-proofing their kids.

1138
01:55:30,830 --> 01:55:46,230
And so the idea is it takes a community to raise children. There'll be possibly more than 25 houses now that we've bought 500,000 meter square piece of land in Madeira.

1139
01:55:46,230 --> 01:55:50,810
This was enabled by us partnering with Citadel.Garden.

1140
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:56,210
You can search that, which is kind of decentralized living.

1141
01:55:56,530 --> 01:56:04,090
And they saw what Silver and myself and the team had been creating there and they saw its value.

1142
01:56:04,250 --> 01:56:11,430
And so we now one of the hubs for this decentralized living is very much Bitcoin centric,

1143
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:17,850
especially our place to be is the B is a Bitcoin symbol.

1144
01:56:18,490 --> 01:56:21,490
And what it is, is a place where children can be themselves

1145
01:56:21,490 --> 01:56:25,210
and through self-direct their learning.

1146
01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:28,350
So there will be touch points for all sorts of different.

1147
01:56:28,530 --> 01:56:30,910
There'll be a robotics lab.

1148
01:56:31,070 --> 01:56:32,650
There'll be painting.

1149
01:56:32,830 --> 01:56:34,190
There'll be woodwork.

1150
01:56:34,630 --> 01:56:37,770
If kids just don't want to do anything, it's up to them.

1151
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:38,410
They're free.

1152
01:56:38,410 --> 01:56:46,330
that's how children used to grow up and uh counterintuitively as is everything it would

1153
01:56:46,330 --> 01:56:52,590
seem in life the more you leave children alone the more they learn the quicker they learn and

1154
01:56:52,590 --> 01:56:58,850
if you because of your fear you try and force them to learn so that there's the hamster wheel

1155
01:56:58,850 --> 01:57:06,590
coming in the more you will put them off um learning and you'll dampen that genius um level

1156
01:57:06,590 --> 01:57:12,570
of learning that is there in early childhood, but it gets extinguished

1157
01:57:12,570 --> 01:57:14,410
as they go through the schooling system.

1158
01:57:14,730 --> 01:57:15,970
So check it out.

1159
01:57:16,030 --> 01:57:20,170
It's awesome if you have kids or you think you're having kids, check it out

1160
01:57:20,170 --> 01:57:27,330
because it's already a lot of people signing up and getting involved.

1161
01:57:28,570 --> 01:57:29,270
Excellent, mate.

1162
01:57:29,490 --> 01:57:32,010
And what will you be doing in Manchester?

1163
01:57:32,350 --> 01:57:33,510
Will you be doing a talk about your book?

1164
01:57:33,890 --> 01:57:35,570
Yeah, I'll be doing a talk about my book.

1165
01:57:35,570 --> 01:57:36,790
Do you have any ideas?

1166
01:57:36,990 --> 01:57:38,750
What would you think would be a good angle?

1167
01:57:43,590 --> 01:57:45,910
Maybe not the plasma stuff just yet.

1168
01:57:49,150 --> 01:57:54,630
I might just kind of, oops, there's a plasma screen on there.

1169
01:57:54,630 --> 01:57:59,270
I love the, I tell you what might be a good one.

1170
01:57:59,430 --> 01:58:02,590
How can you tie it in with Bitcoiners?

1171
01:58:02,590 --> 01:58:08,070
the last thing we want to see is Bitcoiners losing their Bitcoin, right?

1172
01:58:08,290 --> 01:58:11,970
And how is the hamster wheel working in the background somewhere?

1173
01:58:12,190 --> 01:58:13,690
Because I see it a lot.

1174
01:58:13,870 --> 01:58:17,010
Everyone's got these elaborate multi-sig setups and all over the place.

1175
01:58:17,130 --> 01:58:20,250
And then like in four years time, when they go to access it,

1176
01:58:20,670 --> 01:58:24,570
it's going to be too complicated and they can't access their Bitcoin

1177
01:58:24,570 --> 01:58:29,070
because of the actions they were taking now because of their fear of loss.

1178
01:58:29,070 --> 01:58:31,410
Their fear of loss and they get it.

1179
01:58:32,590 --> 01:58:44,592
I think you know that the idea of there is this law and I think everyone knows that the more fearful you are of losing your girlfriend the more your jealousy you hold onto her

1180
01:58:44,632 --> 01:58:45,452
you're going to lose her.

1181
01:58:46,212 --> 01:58:48,272
The harder you squeeze a bar of soap.

1182
01:58:49,592 --> 01:58:50,072
Yeah.

1183
01:58:50,512 --> 01:58:52,492
So there's this law there.

1184
01:58:52,832 --> 01:58:54,912
That's a good, that would be good.

1185
01:58:55,452 --> 01:58:57,912
Yeah. Something, I don't know, mate, we can talk about it.

1186
01:58:57,992 --> 01:59:00,892
Like something Bitcoin centric that's really going to hit home.

1187
01:59:01,232 --> 01:59:01,552
Okay.

1188
01:59:01,852 --> 01:59:10,252
I need your, spit me some great stuff over on Telegram or something.

1189
01:59:10,472 --> 01:59:11,212
Will do, mate.

1190
01:59:11,332 --> 01:59:12,312
Or Signal, excuse me.

1191
01:59:12,752 --> 01:59:17,492
If people want to work with you in any way, if they want sessions with you,

1192
01:59:17,612 --> 01:59:20,192
what's the best way for them to come and interact?

1193
01:59:20,792 --> 01:59:24,012
Yeah, if you want to work with me, I love that.

1194
01:59:24,152 --> 01:59:25,592
It's extremely valuable.

1195
01:59:26,752 --> 01:59:30,652
You can email me at support at robbrindead.com.

1196
01:59:30,652 --> 01:59:43,452
You can go to robbrinday.com and sign up for my email because I write emails pretty much every day, giving my thoughts on different things that I think you can use.

1197
01:59:43,672 --> 01:59:50,412
So it's also valuable. And I have glitched the book.co where you can buy the book.

1198
01:59:50,632 --> 01:59:54,932
But, you know, if you want to get in touch is support of robbrinday.com.

1199
01:59:55,652 --> 01:59:57,352
Will you be bringing books to Manchester?

1200
01:59:57,792 --> 01:59:58,912
I will. Yeah.

1201
01:59:59,132 --> 02:00:00,612
I'm looking forward to a signed one.

1202
02:00:00,652 --> 02:00:03,332
Oh, you will be getting one for sure.

1203
02:00:03,812 --> 02:00:04,232
Excellent.

1204
02:00:04,752 --> 02:00:05,512
Cheers, Rob.

1205
02:00:05,572 --> 02:00:06,492
Appreciate it, mate.

1206
02:00:06,612 --> 02:00:07,172
Take care.

1207
02:00:07,312 --> 02:00:07,992
Great to see you again.

1208
02:00:07,992 --> 02:00:08,172
Thanks so much.

1209
02:00:08,752 --> 02:00:09,312
Thanks so much.

1210
02:00:10,872 --> 02:00:12,292
Well, there you go, guys.

1211
02:00:12,532 --> 02:00:14,412
I hope you enjoyed that one.

1212
02:00:14,712 --> 02:00:18,712
I have a sneaky suspicion this might get a second listen

1213
02:00:18,712 --> 02:00:22,312
for a certain niche subset of you

1214
02:00:22,312 --> 02:00:26,452
that has really grasped onto what Rob has to say here

1215
02:00:26,452 --> 02:00:27,352
and his work.

1216
02:00:27,352 --> 02:00:34,632
uh yeah robbrended.com get over there and check it out reach out to him he dropped his email

1217
02:00:34,632 --> 02:00:40,152
address there at the end uh i'll even put that in the show notes as well for you to be able to

1218
02:00:40,152 --> 02:00:46,432
reach out to him easily i'll put his x or twitter handle on there so you can follow him or dm him

1219
02:00:46,432 --> 02:00:53,952
and his nostor and pub as well so you can get right up to speed with rob and his work and uh

1220
02:00:53,952 --> 02:00:59,572
I'm pretty sure there's a YouTube video out there of his talk at Baltic Honey Badger a couple of years ago

1221
02:00:59,572 --> 02:01:06,552
where he talks about the hamster wheel and he has the board up there, the whiteboard up on stage with him.

1222
02:01:07,172 --> 02:01:10,732
But honestly, the best thing to do is just book in a session.

1223
02:01:11,032 --> 02:01:15,972
You can pay with sats, so you're supporting the Bitcoin economy,

1224
02:01:16,152 --> 02:01:20,532
but at the same time, the hour you spend with him, he will do the Zoom call with you

1225
02:01:20,532 --> 02:01:24,292
and he will have the whiteboard behind his shoulder

1226
02:01:24,292 --> 02:01:26,672
and he'll construct the hamster wheel for you.

1227
02:01:26,952 --> 02:01:29,932
And he does this personally for everybody that he speaks to.

1228
02:01:30,292 --> 02:01:32,792
I know because I've done it not just once.

1229
02:01:32,992 --> 02:01:34,712
I've done it several times.

1230
02:01:34,712 --> 02:01:38,392
I've done it with Lauren and Samuel and my other kids as well

1231
02:01:38,392 --> 02:01:42,532
because I think it's a very, very important process to go through

1232
02:01:42,532 --> 02:01:47,092
and something that I hope I, as a parent,

1233
02:01:47,092 --> 02:01:53,872
can help my kids understand the way they think, why they think that way,

1234
02:01:54,212 --> 02:01:58,192
clearing some of this baggage, some of this trauma

1235
02:01:58,192 --> 02:02:02,072
that I as a parent have been part of passing down to them.

1236
02:02:02,732 --> 02:02:03,792
That is on me.

1237
02:02:04,372 --> 02:02:07,152
And I have to come to terms with that myself as well.

1238
02:02:07,392 --> 02:02:11,432
This is an endless battle of mind control.

1239
02:02:12,992 --> 02:02:16,212
And people like Rob who have done the deep dives,

1240
02:02:16,212 --> 02:02:30,075
If you go back if you really enjoyed this episode go back and listen to our first one like I said at the beginning of the show here because he been around a long time That episode 264 You find it on the Once Bitten podcast GoToFountain

1241
02:02:30,595 --> 02:02:33,755
That's where I am hosting the podcast now.

1242
02:02:34,195 --> 02:02:41,715
I mean, it is obviously on Spotify. It's on Apple. It's on all of the other podcast platforms as well.

1243
02:02:41,715 --> 02:02:45,755
but I think as Bitcoiners we should be supporting the Bitcoin economy

1244
02:02:45,755 --> 02:02:48,295
and the tools that are being built for us to use

1245
02:02:48,295 --> 02:02:50,355
because if not you, then who?

1246
02:02:50,815 --> 02:02:53,195
I mean, who's going to buy Rob's book for Bitcoin?

1247
02:02:53,815 --> 02:02:54,535
Only us.

1248
02:02:54,895 --> 02:02:58,895
Who's going to use the Fountain app and stream sats and boost sats

1249
02:02:58,895 --> 02:03:00,195
to their favorite podcasters?

1250
02:03:00,675 --> 02:03:01,255
Only us.

1251
02:03:01,275 --> 02:03:03,435
Who's going to go and listen to music on Wav Lake

1252
02:03:03,435 --> 02:03:06,275
and stream sats directly to the artists?

1253
02:03:07,015 --> 02:03:07,775
Only us.

1254
02:03:08,395 --> 02:03:09,275
It's up to us.

1255
02:03:09,335 --> 02:03:11,075
This is as grassroots as it gets.

1256
02:03:11,075 --> 02:03:17,155
like we are building the economy this isn't a top down that we're not being forced to do this

1257
02:03:17,155 --> 02:03:23,335
this is a choice and you have the choice to step out of one system and into the other and the other

1258
02:03:23,335 --> 02:03:29,635
system by the way is a lot fucking better than what you're in at the moment in every single

1259
02:03:29,635 --> 02:03:36,295
possible manner so get out there and support those companies um you can support the uh the

1260
02:03:36,295 --> 02:03:42,775
our sponsors as well. Relay, R-E-L-A-I.CH forward slash Bitten. That's a place for you to stack

1261
02:03:42,775 --> 02:03:50,195
sats across Europe. Bitbox, like I said at the beginning, self-custody is so key. Pun intended.

1262
02:03:50,635 --> 02:03:56,915
If you do not have control over your Bitcoin, someone else does. It's that simple. It's like

1263
02:03:56,915 --> 02:04:03,815
going to buy a new car and then walking out of the dealership having left the keys

1264
02:04:03,815 --> 02:04:05,555
with the salesman.

1265
02:04:06,555 --> 02:04:08,375
I mean, you've just given the salesman all your cash,

1266
02:04:09,275 --> 02:04:11,095
but you walked out with nothing.

1267
02:04:11,795 --> 02:04:13,095
He's got the keys to your car.

1268
02:04:13,215 --> 02:04:15,995
He's the one that can drive it and use it whenever he wants.

1269
02:04:16,555 --> 02:04:17,395
You don't have it.

1270
02:04:17,875 --> 02:04:18,975
That's the same with your Bitcoin.

1271
02:04:19,475 --> 02:04:21,295
If you've given your fiat currency,

1272
02:04:21,295 --> 02:04:25,655
your pounds, your euros, your yen, your dollars,

1273
02:04:26,155 --> 02:04:30,135
if you've given that to an exchange for Bitcoin,

1274
02:04:30,135 --> 02:04:33,435
but you've not taken the Bitcoin

1275
02:04:33,435 --> 02:04:35,795
you've not taken control of that Bitcoin

1276
02:04:35,795 --> 02:04:36,875
you do not have the keys

1277
02:04:36,875 --> 02:04:38,995
you've just walked out of the car dealership

1278
02:04:38,995 --> 02:04:40,835
after giving them your money

1279
02:04:40,835 --> 02:04:43,435
this makes zero fucking sense guys

1280
02:04:43,435 --> 02:04:44,735
get yourself a Bitbox

1281
02:04:44,735 --> 02:04:47,295
bitbox.swiss forward slash Bitten

1282
02:04:47,295 --> 02:04:48,995
take control of your Bitcoin

1283
02:04:48,995 --> 02:04:52,775
you are the only one that should have control over that Bitcoin

1284
02:04:52,775 --> 02:04:55,095
you're the only one that should have the keys

1285
02:04:55,095 --> 02:04:56,355
to that Bitcoin

1286
02:04:56,355 --> 02:04:58,515
like it's that

1287
02:04:58,515 --> 02:05:01,055
I don't know if a more simple analogy.

1288
02:05:01,375 --> 02:05:03,755
If you want any more information on self-custody,

1289
02:05:04,295 --> 02:05:05,635
get over to bitbox.swiss.

1290
02:05:05,715 --> 02:05:08,995
They have tons of blog posts, educational resources.

1291
02:05:09,535 --> 02:05:12,215
It's something you need to start taking very seriously.

1292
02:05:13,055 --> 02:05:16,195
Paywithflash.com is the best place for you to go now

1293
02:05:16,195 --> 02:05:19,395
to start accepting Bitcoin for your goods and services.

1294
02:05:19,555 --> 02:05:21,135
They've made it so damn easy for you.

1295
02:05:22,075 --> 02:05:23,095
Paywithflash.com.

1296
02:05:23,395 --> 02:05:24,295
And like I said at the beginning,

1297
02:05:24,435 --> 02:05:25,615
go out and meet your Bitcoiners.

1298
02:05:25,895 --> 02:05:27,915
Orange Pill App is the place for you to go and do that.

1299
02:05:27,915 --> 02:05:34,575
almost 20,000 Bitcoiners around the world ready to connect with you. Pure signal. They're going to

1300
02:05:34,575 --> 02:05:39,915
plug you into the local economy. They're going to get you up to speed with who's accepting Bitcoin

1301
02:05:39,915 --> 02:05:45,375
in your local area, where the events are, whether that's a meetup, whether that's a walk, whether

1302
02:05:45,375 --> 02:05:50,455
that's a huge conference. It doesn't matter. It's all there. Get over to Orange Pill App. Join us

1303
02:05:50,455 --> 02:05:55,335
over there. Send me a DM. Let me know you've joined. And the link is in the show notes.

1304
02:05:55,335 --> 02:05:57,355
with all that said

1305
02:05:57,355 --> 02:05:59,475
I hope you really enjoyed that one with Rob

1306
02:05:59,475 --> 02:06:00,835
thank you again for listening

1307
02:06:00,835 --> 02:06:01,655
I'm out of music

1308
02:06:01,655 --> 02:06:03,875
catch you on the next show

1309
02:06:03,875 --> 02:06:05,455
thanks always for listening