Hello, everybody. My name is Daniel Prince, and I'm the host of the Once Bitten podcast.
This is a podcast focused on Bitcoin. It's my mission to interview as many people as I can
around the different aspects of Bitcoin and help people understand exactly what Bitcoin could mean
for them and for their families and for their future. I hope you enjoy the show. Thank you so
much for listening. Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of the Once Bitten podcast.
Joining me today is Rob Berendit. Now Rob first came onto the show and possibly onto the scene
June 26th, 2022, where we did an interview back then. The price of Bitcoin was $20,288
because I'm just looking at the episode now on Fountain App.
So this is how far we've come in that three and a half years.
And Rob has also come a long way.
I've come a long way personally as well.
And a lot of that is thanks to Rob and the continued conversations
that I've had with him ever since we did this podcast.
And then we actually got to meet in person in June as well
when he was actually moving to Madeira.
and we were all there as part of a group put together by Andre Loja
who started the Free Madeira Foundation
and started the conversation over there with the president
and we got to meet him and he was interested in learning more about Bitcoin
and he gave the Rob a stamp to start the Free Madeira
and he's been very supportive of that
and the growth of Bitcoin on the island
and Rob's seen this first hand with his wife Sylvie
and they've both started together,
although Sylvie's the driving force behind it,
A Place to Be,
which is growing homeschooling community in Madeira.
Very much focused on Bitcoin,
very much focused on self-directed education,
freedom, all of the things that we love.
Self-sovereignty.
And if you want to learn more about that,
I've had Sylvie on the show as well.
A Place to Be is where you can go to find out more.
You can follow them on Twitter as well.
They tour some of the conferences and get some booths there,
handing out information, and it's a great project.
What Rob does is incredible, incredible work around...
He's given some talks about this now at a few conferences.
He was just in Manchester about how we think the way we think
or why we think the way we do
and how you can optimize your operating system,
i.e. your neurological brain powers by decoding that and you know getting rid of the glitch that's
the name of his new book the glitch his original book was called mind decentralized and all of this
work culminates from years of research and working with the highest performers whether that's in
professional sports he spent years at chelsea and then at barcelona he won every medal with chelsea
under Mourinho and he was on the sports, excuse me, the injury prevention side of things. But then
he realized everything was about the mind. The first almost hour of this conversation takes place
with him talking to Lauren and Samuel, who he's got to know over the years, just us traveling as
a family and getting to know Rob and Sylvia and their girls. So they're very comfortable with Rob
and we weren't expecting them to be on for an hour, but that's the beauty of the conversation.
it just unfolds. I hope you enjoy it. I hope you get a lot out of it. Go and reach out to Rob if
you want to learn more or work with him. Robbrindid.com is the website. Couldn't be easier.
He's posting on X. He's posting on Noster as well. A lot of work about energy and how to
harness that energy, the power of the mind. If that's your jam, you're going to love what Rob
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All right, Rob, we're recording. Great to see you again, mate.
Yeah, good to be on here and see you guys.
so for those that don't know uh rob and i did our first podcast my goodness mate we're going
back some time this was before your first book correct and it was such a i look back at that now
and i i don't know about you i'm sure you'll agree i've changed a great deal since since then
and I attribute a lot of that to your work and the conversations that we've had and the two books
that you've written and the thought patterns that you've put me in or I should say the thought
patterns you've tried to take me out of would probably be a better way to describe it. Yeah
how about yourself how do you feel as though you've changed in the last well when we first
chatted you hadn't even moved to Madeira so that that's really yeah yeah it feels um a huge
acceleration in my change in the last few years and I'm really enjoying Madeira now and since since
we spoke then I wrote the book about the hamster wheel so probably we'll mention later and that
changed me significantly so I'm now I think back then I was a lot more worried about missing out
on life and and a lot of anxiety and worries about you know fears about where I should be and
you know my career and everything but I just it's gone blank like that that's not there anymore so I
just really enjoy my days and then if i get to meet you guys it's going to be um you know special
anything anything i do is special so there's a i've changed quite a bit and and um yeah i'm so
glad i have it's much more peaceful yeah amazing all right so the two books uh mine decentralized
was book number one and i was uh very humbled and honored to have written the foreword for that
Thank you again for that invitation.
That's correct.
Thank you.
And Glitch, which you sent me a PDF of, and I've been working through and pinging you questions, and it's taken me down different rabbit holes as well.
But not only that, we have Lauren and Samuel here today because, you know, I feed back information to them.
And I, as you know, I send you texts, say, like, you know, Lauren's struggling with this or Samuel's struggling with that.
what could it be?
And I don't know how you do it.
Hopefully you'll be able to explain what you do.
But you manage to map into their fears
and pull up things in their subconscious.
So I just wanted to, just for the sake of the audience,
because many people that listen to the show
are probably around their age,
might have their own young kids and families
and have their own worries
and want the best for their children
and see them coming up against struggles.
So I thought it would be fun to perhaps bring these guys on
and talk about things that have been affecting them
and what you see and what you feel.
And explain it as you would explain it, not me as the middleman.
And the listeners would get a better understanding that way.
So I think we'll kick off with example number one,
whereby a parent might be struggling with or a child might be struggling with that they could be
in a school setting and there's a test just thrown at them out of nowhere left field kind of math test
math paper lands on their desk and it's kind of like right act now you've got one hour to do this
test and uh yeah i mean lauren how do you feel when when that kind of thing is is sprung on you
because it hasn't that's that's never because you've been homeschooled so many years and now
you're going to through an actual course with gcse you've never had the ability to to build that
coping mechanism right rob that uh the engineer that um that kind of that that program in your
mind to to build up that armor around the fear so how does it make you feel Lauren what would
you be how how could you explain that well um luckily they don't throw tests on us like
pop quiz um no they don't do that luckily but it's when they move since I've been homeschooled
I when when we learn about a subject in math we like stick to it for like a couple weeks and we
really understand it and then we move on but then with my school we stick for it for two days and
then we move on maybe even one and it's like my teacher she was moving on already I'm like wait
I barely understand this how like it was freaking me out because I I didn't understand it
excuse me and she was already moving on so yeah it was kind of scary
all right you can see i'm writing down because you have to look at the words that uh lauren hello
how are you i'm good thank you all right nice thing you again um so
i'm gonna just say what i found and then maybe i explain how i do it because everyone's able to do
it it's just we've lost this um ability because we we become uh too we we put too much importance
on our mental uh intelligence and the the mind is very basic and and uh mechanical and they're
just scripts that run in it and you know get triggered the whole time so when lauren started
talking when you started talking lauren uh i'm listening closely to your words and it's a one
and a zero so they're either strong or they drop so they're either strong or weak and when energy
is weak it drops and you can feel it if you've trained yourself to feel it in others some people
naturally do it but you i teach people how to do that that's a that's physical intelligence and
there has to be no mind so when lauren's talking i'm i'm just listening to the words and the first
thing that came up was i was looking at the overall situation i asked um using this one and zero sort
of directional felt sense which is so it's not it's not a mental thing because that's just old
information what i'm looking for is the answer to lauren's kind of question and discomfort and
struggle she used struggle i think or you did um daniel so the first thing that came up was problem
There's this problem. And Chinese medicine, that breaks down into three aspects, or the way that the Chinese look at it, which I very much like, which is triggers choices. It could be a choice thing. She has no choice. There's, you know, she said homeschooling where you have choice, but it's not weak. But it came down to being an issue. So Lauren has, there are issues and they have a cumulative effect on her.
So if I was working on Lauren, I'm not going to go and start going down into a session with
Lauren, but anytime if you want, we can.
But you can strengthen, I can strengthen Lauren and I can't help but do it when I say it,
that you want to be strong to all your past issues and the cumulative effect of those issues So the cumulative effect of all your issues that you experienced is like the cash that builds up in the back that keeps building
up in the background, like that you don't delete. So it's just, we have the ability to click our
cash, our mental cash. So I just cleared that for you. And then the other word that dropped was home,
but it's not this home but your previous homes weaken you now and if i if i compare the two and
i say no home or homes it's the homes that you had before that still weaken you okay so that's
a one and a zero they either strengthen you or they don't so you want to all the families midline
needs to be strong to all the homes you've ever been to so they either you're they're either
strengthening you or weakening you and then the other word you that you kept saying it moving on
but that's not you lauren um that's your teacher so when you said teacher the energy dropped
and then you kept saying moving on and so the teacher has a weakness to moving on and so that
weakens you lauren when when you you interact with your teacher she weakens you so it's just
it's a completely different way of looking at it but there is this skill that we've lost and we
will probably talk about Robert Temple if you we could go into that a little bit you know plasma
and plasma physics and how we're all interconnected um so that that's how I work so Lauren you know
that you're strong to your teacher now and if if I think about you moving on or standing still or
going backwards there's no weakness and taking tests being tested failing succeeding there's no
weakness there for me to look at but your teacher so she kind of um does something to you it bothers
you so keep you strong to that so how do you how do you clear that like it like you just said um i
can't remember exactly what it was you said like i've made that stronger now something yeah
right yeah yeah so how do you how do you do that so we computers it's so uh the more you look into
it we we have the operating system we have the physical intelligence we have the cloud
or two big clouds right or you know this cloud so all the information is stored there and so we just
really we have all the information available but our minds uh trap us and block us from connecting
with the answers so when you're deleting the cache or you're deleting pop-ups you're deleting email
you just press enter so you you press sorry you press delete um and so when you're working with
someone you're connecting with them on some level they're doing it but that that's getting into the
kind of deeper um you know who who is lauren and who am i and maybe on some level we're connecting
with the same so it can go a bit deeper than that but what i do is i feel a weakness i can
look at lauren's midline and delete the weakness or strengthen the weakness and delete the effects
but i i just i've trained myself over the you know like 15 more than 15 years of doing this
The moment I become aware of it, it automatically deletes the weakness or strengthens it.
So the midline of the body, that is your biocomputer, that midline.
That's why the Chinese and the Shaolin, they put their hand there when they balance because it's their energy point.
So that is our biocomputer.
The bottom brain, which is the sacrum, the coccyx tail area, that is the MacBook Pro.
So when you're working with someone, if someone's a cranial sacral therapist, they always look at the connection between the brain and that coccyx area.
So that coccyx area, if you connect with it, it strengthens you.
If you sprint and you take your awareness and your energy to that sacrum coccyx area, you'll run faster.
so how do i know that because i've done it loads of times so you know and working with people have
made them faster or jump higher by connecting to that and then the brain is the old ibm it's not
it's not the most important brain so that midline is um where you enter the information so to speak
there into the midline so i used to teach like zipping up from the bottom of the spinal cord
up and that's the enter so i i my intention is to strengthen that weakness and delete the effects
but i don't do that anymore it's just instantly deletes we've gone deep into it straight away
i love it you know hey daniel there's a brisket on noster um you we pro i i know who it is i think
but you know i probably met him at loads of conferences but so briscoe nostril he he said
rob i think you he said it this morning i think i think you hide your that the energy stuff because
it you're afraid of it being as woo and i agreed with him and then we go straight in here and i'm
like all right here we go let's go all blue is on the table rob i'm good to go on that now because
yeah go ahead if sorry if if lauren if if i was working with you the most important thing is we
get a baseline because the mind is just going over in loops and we're like we don't realize
if anything changes because the mind that nothing changes when we use our minds which it's just loop
mechanical loops hamster wheels but lauren if if you if we work together i'd get a baseline for how
you feel about that the test get really clear on it even give a number and then i find the weakness
and then i come back to that baseline i say okay how is it now and it's either going to be the same
or different and i that sounds not important it is so crucial you um keep the mind uh where it is
you delete and then it then usually what happens the person goes oh i can't even think about it
anymore but if they've got a fast mind they'll just move on they'll go yeah well you go no no
no we have to resolve things bit bit by bit and you have to you kind of have to see the changes
otherwise the mind just traps you in the the bs you know we're going to move on to to samuel and
an example that just come in within the last 24 hours because i i texted you i think it was sunday
because he has been suffering from oral migraines.
And for those people that don't know what an oral migraine is,
that's when you lose a bit of vision or you might get some numbness in your
cheeks or in your mouth or in your limbs, along with like the thumping headache.
And I just texted Rob the other day.
He said, Samuel's been suffering a couple of days.
Recently, they're becoming more.
uh and they're happening what happened thursday night after football training and then saturday
after the game right and rob's response was he has a subconscious fear his weakness is a subconscious
fear of success yeah which turned my head upside down and explained this to samuel on the on the
journey home after i just uh went and uh grabbed him uh and i tried to explain it and i'm sure i
did a really bad job so what's um what what do you mean by that how's the how's the best way to
explain to a 14 year old that he has a subconscious fear of success so subconscious or non-con like
unconscious just we're not aware of it so there's this like operating system that is uh underneath
running us and we're usually stuck up in our head in the loops um and if you live on the planet long
enough you're going to see that you just keep doing the same thing in loops and you think you're
changing you just keep coming back and doing it um when there's a an unconscious um a mosquito has
been seen sorry when there's an unconscious as in you're not aware of it um he i get that
when he's about to succeed the body um most things nearly everything physical has a non-physical
reason for it so the the body acts like a shut off uh oftentimes and so every time he gets
closer to success he starts pulling in something which stops him from experiencing it because for
some reason it's a threat it's dangerous to be successful so success is very weak for him so
samuel you want to succeed right and you think about it all the time you you want to be able
I don't know um I want to succeed in football obviously in school so I suppose I guess I don't
know about it but um what I'm what when when I ask you questions is what I'm asking what you know
not about the unconscious so with football you really want to do well yeah do you enjoy everyone
looking at you and praising you yes so that feels good yeah yes okay so you're not shy no okay
because the on a conscious level he he's wanting to be successful but unconsciously there's something
like a a limit a block and so it will give him injuries when he's starting to do well
uh it's like shit i'm starting to do well and then something starts coming up that's how i would see
it playing out um also the the numb there's a weakness to numbing and not being able to speak
so that when you're not able to speak it bothers you most people say yes but that is that is a
weakness so the numbness in the mouth oral was the weakness um the other word you use oral
migraine migraine no weakness to migraine but oral as in using your mouth weakens you or speaking
up so you know actually didn't you say something that your mouth your whole mouth goes numb when
you have the migraine yeah i can have that the first time this is interesting rob because the
first time this ever happened he spoke when he spoke he spoke back to front
like the sentence came out back do you remember yeah he came out back to front and we were all
sitting there having lunch and we looked at him we're like what because he spoke as if it was so
natural but all the words came backwards we're like how is this like some kind of jedi mind trick
or something yeah and then he did it again uh and we're like what the hell and then he said
huh i can't feel my hand and my head hurts and honestly claren i thought he was having a stroke
or something well yeah that'd be worrying yeah that's when we went down like the the migraine
kind of rabbit hole and we found these oral migraines which are these are textbook symptoms
but it's funny that you've linked that to to the speech because that was the first that was the
first time ever it happened um how do you feel about not being listened to um i haven't really
put much thought of it and oh that happens to me so many times no genuinely genuinely I tell daddy
something like something helpful I'm like oh daddy it must be that and he's like and he doesn't listen
to me and then he's like oh I know what it is it's this I'm like I told you that he literally told you
that it happens so often it's actually really annoying so there Lauren gave me gave me an
annoying that would be something what's interesting with samuel is when he talks about his emotions
he smiles and he doesn't go there he just said i don't think right you said i don't think about it
well you do about it before you do you do but you just numb yourself to it
yeah and you're covering your face a little bit now
she's put he's like literally going like that but um you know these are all things you when
you're working with someone they will be giving you non like non they're trying to tell you what
the thing is and so the words they tell you will be sometimes very unusual and you have to just
listen very closely everything there so the injuries that because you do suffer injuries in football and they they definitely been a bit weird right do you remember the the knee injuries that like oh yeah we we we put them
down to growth spurts and yeah which obviously could be because it's a literal physical thing
to grow a foot and a half in a year is is going to take a toll somewhere uh but then you were
changing the football team because we changed um countries and you did really well there and you
won player of the year and it was so the success came regardless yeah and but here's the because
i've been watching a few of these dr cam ewan interviews uh you sent me a link to some of them
and i've been going a little bit deeper and he comes up with this uh idea of um i'm gonna butcher
this rob uh karmic yeah um what's the language he would use it like he's running maybe he's running
some karmic kind of uh yeah weakness like he's there's karma there affecting him and the way i
understood dr camion talking about this this could have been passed down from generations and i know
you and i have spoken about this at great length so as i explained to samuel in the car it could be
one of our great great great great great ancestors anywhere between like my great grandfather and
beyond people would never have met might have been very successful but during that but having that
success might have brought some kind of negativity into their life and that karma has been passed
down through generations yeah well i would it would probably be more like uh karma of doing
things to others and that that needs to be rebalanced so you know it's long been held that
information is stored somewhere so when when i work with someone and get really good results
with them sometimes it's due with karma so i don't really believe in anything however when i resolve
the karma everything results and so that points to you some people may be listening and say oh
That's just placebo. But I've worked with people who didn't want to be talking to me and didn't believe anything.
And sort of at the end of this, like in my book, I talk about a guy who had 19 years, severe back pain.
And he came on and he thought I was going to do exercise with him.
He didn't book the session, a footballer book for him.
And it was a horrible session because he just at the end, he said, you're a very nice person.
But that was the biggest waste of an hour.
And then the next morning he woke up, all his back pain was gone because he had karma of doing that, you know, breaking people's backs and everything that just needed to be resolved.
And then he drove to the Isle of Man to make the back pain come back because he's not it really messed him up.
He's an atheist. And so he drove there and he mowed the lawn and shit to try and get the back pain to come back.
and it's never been, it never came back.
It came back one time when he was in someone's car driving it
and then he called me and then I worked on it.
It was because the car was the weakness, weakening him,
and the car was the same model as his ex-wife had.
And so it triggered all that anger in him.
So instantly I strengthened him to the car
and then his back pain freeze had gone.
so um you know there's this thing um i maybe i i got away from what we were talking about
yeah but it's all it's amazing so samuel your question uh to me was because i explained
that this fear was running subconsciously and therefore he would have no way of
knowing it was even running so what did you want to know how can i fix it
yeah how can you be able more able yeah yeah so um is it something you think about a lot
how to be more able no no you don't no i don't well okay you you you're very you're always training
to become better right especially with your football yeah okay so that is you wanting to
become more able all right do you see what i mean yeah and you'll be you're always doing your push
ups you're always doing like you're going out in the garden practicing the football doing your
keepy ups take you take training seriously uh you've got into handstands at the moment
doing that yeah yeah so glima sees into handstands yeah samuel what so if i was looking at it from an
energy point of view but if like if i think um so you your question was how how do i get rid of
that um armor uh no there's no you want it to be karma don't you because
you gotta go so if i look at this so it's the the the head the headache thing you want or the
unconscious thing it's the unconscious thing stopping you from being a success
yeah yeah so if you're not a success how would you feel a bit disappointed yeah okay so um
a bit that i think disappointed yeah a big disappointment yeah so um what i would suggest is
in terms of uh high performance you need to be looking at how often you feel disappointment
or you've got to become aware when do you feel it and do you immediately go and try and
improve that's one thing to look at does that make sense yeah because um
if you uh try you don't want to be a disappointment do you no and you want people to be proud of you
yeah so that can be a force that drives you into high performance like david beckham in his
documentary his dad would never he would purposely not say it was good enough
to make him not dwell and be satisfied.
So now David Beckham is never satisfied.
So he's never satisfied with his cleaning.
It's just everything has to always be improved.
He can't stop.
So that comes from conditioning.
So if we were working together,
I'd want you to be much more neutral to that disappointment.
okay because when you get the headache things and you get injured do you feel disappointed
yes i feel annoyed because i'm not 100 okay so when you're annoyed is because something's
gone wrong with your body and um you you feel unable yeah okay so if people think you're not
able as a footballer would that bother you yes how much out of 10 probably well because it's a
little league probably not much probably like seven but if it was like let's say david beckham
came to watch you and he said yeah you're not able to be a professional how would you feel oh
very disappointed i'd be like 10 okay so that 10 energy some people would say oh that is going to
drive you into becoming a professional but i would suggest that that will get you what you're
running away from which is that disappointment 10 out of 10 so you have to you have to start to watch
this disappointment and understand it because the the greats are just completely
they kind of don't give a shit what the best i've worked with don't give a shit about anyone
does that make sense yeah yeah it does okay so i'm looking at your overall um
so the mind the mind shows up in the body yeah so you're we've discovered that there's
disappointment there and there's a 10 out of 10 and so you'll always run away from that trying to
be proud of yourself but it will always draw you back yeah yeah okay so that's one thing that
like that's more important than yeah you want to practice but if you have that that's that's
going to injure you right okay yeah it's another way of looking at it but like that that's not um
you're going to be running on a hamster wheel away from disappointment you're you're going to
get disappointed so you need to look at that and get to understand your mind is just on a loop
so if you imagine the way rob explained it in riga if you imagine like you're on a hamster wheel
and you've got success up here and disappointment down here and you're running and running and
running to try and get up to uh success the hamster wheel spins the other way and eventually
you'll run out of steam and you'll just get swept down to disappointment does that make sense so
sam you're not you're good because i can feel your energy dropping now because that's like yeah but
that's me that's how i like on a deeper level your energy dropped when that was said okay so
what what it is is you you just need to understand that that will get you only so far
and so i'm giving you like a high performance next level um not it's not a shift it's an
understanding of what drives you and that when you can get neutral to that and dissolve it
you'll just you won't need that you'll just be next level and when you're under pressure
you won't that that system won't come in and cause you to be injured right or 100 improve
your performance because the way your physical intelligence takes over on a football pitch is
when there's no mind but if you're motivated to be you know you want everyone to be proud of you
you're going to it's that's not uh the mind will get in the way all it takes is someone stand next
to you and go wow you're shit you're really unable that will trigger you and you'll go what
and you'll force you know i'm going to show them or it will bother you
yeah i think we're talking are we talking about like a flow state here rob yeah no mind
no mind is the flow state is physical intelligence there's no mind mind is just an old loop
really like in the last James Bond in that Russian bunker,
everything's like, it's just, it does stuff,
but it's on loop and it's old scripts, glitchy software.
So when you look at the greats, like, you know,
Ronaldo scores that overhead kick on the edge of the box or whatever else.
And the commentators will say, Oh, look,
he got himself into position and he saw the corner coming over and he read the
wind and he's done a feint here and he's done the cycle kick and he's got the balance just right
he didn't do any of that because he wasn't thinking about any of that just instinct
yeah yeah instinct is physical intelligence um and then um i you know i'd need to speak to you
in private to find out if you're on the left of the hamster wheel which is kind of pointing to that
it's possible that you're on the right but when you said it would really bother you
that people what what they think about you that that points to more of a left side and and it's
you can still become a professional footballer if you want no if you're physically attributes and
you train harder than anyone every single day so that it compounds over time by the time you're 20
you're so far ahead of everyone else because you practice more hours but the glitch is in that
deep operating system that i heard because you gave me a 10 out of 10
and to look at so many different examples rob over the years of uh footballers i either i've
watched or you've worked with closely with your time at chelsea and barcelona you could see the
most physical specimen come in with the the best incredible skills the best speed the best jump
but if they can't play in front of 50 to 80 000 people because of the way that they think they're
being judged on the pitch it all falls down yeah i mean um it's complex it's because most of the
people i've ever worked with in a football club are on the right so they're so driven and they
support themselves i've seen a few come in that weren't which is very unusual but they suffered
lots of injuries the ones on the right what happens is when they are with a another bunch of
just say you've got 30 elite uh right siders right siding means that they are yang dominant
they support themselves they think they're always right they're extremely able and they know it
that position is perfect for an elite athlete What happens is because they all that level and they competing and the manager Jose Mourinho let say starts putting pressure on them
they will break at some point and it's only the most traumatized.
This is where, you know, I think it's true, people don't want to hear it,
but only the most elite or strong position up there will survive.
So John Terry, he had so much stuff hitting him, so much stressful.
Like there was the racism thing in the papers
and there was some relationship stuff coming out and all of this.
He just suppressed it.
He was amazing at suppressing it, but that takes its toll on the body.
but he could go through everything it's why um the army look you'll find that most special forces
were found from children at home children at home and i think it's one in four were abused as a child
because it puts them through such difficult traumatic experiences that they're able to deal
with the most insane amount of pressure and so you can see when there's 30 players you're going
to see them go boom injury injury because when they get injured it's an excuse for not being able
enough does that it's like a the fuse just goes you know what i can't deal with this pressure
and so i saw it plenty of times and you knew which guys were elite elite mentally because
they could just continue with discomfort and they didn't get injured childhood trauma we'll come on
to it uh right guys did you have any further questions you you can hang as long as you like
i don't want to sam sammy's got one yeah i've got one more um so is there a way you can boost
my confidence when i'm on the ball or is that just completely up to me and practice
um that's an interest so you need you think you need confidence on the ball right yeah okay that
means you think you don't have enough confidence yeah that means your left side okay okay first of
all so um so if boost your confidence um when you're on the ball there's a weakness
so strengthen that okay if we were you and me were talking privately i go through baseline and make you
feel the shift okay um so confidence um so if if i think about you right now the thing that comes up
is fear and i think it was what we talked to there's some fear around failing correct yep so
do you have a fear of failure yes no you don't you have a fear of success so you want to be up
on the right yeah you can look at my book and it samuel you're you need to take this seriously now
if you want to be a professional footballer it starts now you need to look at the glitchy
programming so you want to go up and be extremely able and the most valuable player and succeed
but your imp your script is lacking confidence probably lovely guy you you're a nice guy and
you support everyone and you're a team player and everything,
but you have to be completely able to support yourself and not give a shit about anyone else
if you want to be a pro athlete.
So you can do that.
Your setup is not optimal.
I'm just being honest with you because you're on the left,
but you can still get really great, especially, or I would say only if you do this work of
seeing how often you're fearful.
What's your biggest fear?
success no like you in your head um i don't know right now yeah what what do you fear like
do you have like a phobia or like do you like fear like what about people criticizing you
oh yeah yeah that i'm not yeah i'm not a fan of that okay so that what i want you to do is it's a
game you start the game i want you to watch how often you're fearful and that's just an old program
it's not you it's an old script and so i want you to see how often you're fearful and as you
see the fear the fearful thought i want you to see how your mind goes to i need to work harder
or I need to be better so that that doesn't happen.
But the fear is always there.
And so I want you to get to know it really well.
And we can talk another time, but the game has started
and your programming creates your reality.
So the top guys don't give a shit about what anyone says about them.
Okay, so it's great.
You're started.
The game has started.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I can talk to you more later.
We'll do it.
Read the book.
Read Glitch.
And then you'll...
This is the most important thing.
If you want to be a professional footballer,
it's not about practicing more.
It's about getting rid of this.
I have a question.
Sure, Lauren.
I'll hear it.
So when you were asking Samuel,
do you have any fears?
I just realized that I fear every day.
day like I fear um what I say is wrong or whenever like my math teacher or my English teacher gives
back homework or just like comes around the room just like oh crap what if I got this this question
wrong and then that'll just be embarrassing and oh my gosh like I fear speaking up sometimes in
class like oh what's the answer to this even though I know the answer I get like I fear an
embarrassment of like everyone's staring at me yeah awesome yeah so i just think daniel's there
going like i just fear every day i i just fear about like everything i do because i don't want
to upset people and i don't like failing myself like i hate letting myself down okay and i find
i do that a lot too so just give me a second
okay so that's that's karma and it's not yours it's your ancestors karma of like
making others feel embarrassed and ridiculed so that might people might be going what that's
absolute bullshit rob's making up but if you if you look at it in terms of cause and effect
when if you your ancestors did that to others it's really it seems like the rules of the universe
are just you you're either kind of helping people or hindering them if you hinder them
then the next lifetime you come in and you're there to resolve all the zeros you've done not
the ones okay and so there it seems like it's a record like the akashic files or it seems like
this is all held somewhere and remembered so we're here to resolve things so that's not even yours
that's your ancestors trying to get that resolved so we resolve that you're doing it on some level
and then there will be conditioning within you in your mind that is coming up now and that
if we're getting into the more complexity of how these files that are you know encoded in us through
the maybe plasma then um you that will condition you this lifetime to experience it so removing that
habit it you need to start observing that you have a habit around maybe right or wrong people
thinking you're wrong not good enough right so it's not your dad's fault that was coming in from
so lauren if there's five hamster wheels so what i want you to think about when if you do badly
and everyone finds out does is that the worst thing about that yeah that's like so embarrassing
like when i got oh i'm sorry when i got like my um math it was like this test that you have to do
to see where we were and I only and it was like this like full-on like sheet bit and I only had
like a couple green a couple green means like oh you know the subject um a couple like very few
that were orange which is like you kind of know what you're doing but you still got it wrong and
the rest were just like red and I saw it I like tears literally welled in my eyes because I knew
some of the subjects i just forgot how to do it and i look everywhere around me everyone like had
more and like i i've always had the problem where every time like i get something i look around i
see if anyone's like above or under me and if it's horrible but if they're under me then i feel
better because like oh my gosh i'm not the worst so if you there's five programs that are sitting
there getting triggered one of them's been triggered massively so if i say there's gain loss
paying attention to ignore unable able right wrong and i always forget the fifth you got it
daniel i've got the book right in front of me yeah carry on so unable able right wrong
gain loss um paying attention to ignore and
yeah yeah yeah support let down support let down so when you lauren what you what you can do is
there's a habitual reaction there and it's irrational like you said it's almost bringing
tears to your eyes and so you're getting a subjective um someone's said you're like this
But it's triggering old stuff in you, an old program that fires up.
Now, I think listening to you, you gave it to me, is unable.
I think that's the one that bothers you.
So you look around to see, are you the least able?
Yeah.
And I don't know where you are on the hamster wheel.
I'm not going to guess.
But I think it bothers you when people think you're unable.
Would you agree with that?
i do i do i am weak myself and like just strong and mentally i think so
just explain what you just said um i think i'm weak myself like mentally and like with muscles
like strong too okay so you're weak and strength and in mind is what you think okay um so
that's just a program inside of you you have both inside of you that's what you're here to
discover your ableness um and samuel is as well so if if um how often do you think about being unable
every day okay so that's an old script running inside of you it's not you
it's just a hamster wheel so whenever you you think oh i'm not going to be able to do that oh
i wish i was more able every time you react to it and dance like a song you reinforce it what i want
you to do is go oh there's that hamster wheel and you can just say hey it's okay it's just an old
and so the difference between getting caught up in it and feeling it and crying and going oh i know
that hamster wheel that's the separation that starts to dissolve it and then you can receive
any type of the same for you samuel these are the type of work when you're completely neutral
you can have all the fans in the stand going oh you're shit you're shit and you're just like
bothered like it has no effect on you all the class members say wow you're so unable
you know and you just go i know how able i am but what you're showing me is that there's a glitch
you're jammed up on one side and so you know you you can be jammed you're either jammed up on the
right and the left the yin yang you know um so look out for that unable again you're starting
to play the game you're here to understand that you you are not your mind and the less the mind
takes over the more your physical intelligence will find the answers and we can talk about how
that download happens as it you know in today or another time we'll do another call yeah yeah
right okay uh all right any follow-up questions no no okay yeah we do have tests this month
biology, math and English
let's see how that goes
yeah so you don't want to do that
cross your fingers
yeah because that means that you have
no control over it
do you have control over it
yes
how do you have control over the result
by knowing what I'm doing.
Okay, so, but how do you know what you're doing?
See, that is also something that I do.
I always second guess myself.
Yeah, so you're uncertain.
Yeah.
But you're uncertain.
Have you studied?
I'm going to study.
Actually, our teacher gave us a study plan
that we have to fill out.
Do you think you'll do it?
Be honest.
i think i will yeah i because we also have to hand in so it's like a project
okay you kind of have to do it yeah so if you're on the left you won't you won't do it because
your programming creates your reality so you said i think i will do it i think you didn't say i will
do it but you want to do well in it don't you yeah consciously you want to do well in it but
unconsciously you don't how do i know because you're kind of telling me
do you see yeah it's just super simple lauren the what what you have to do is start to look
at your behavior and you go this is kind of weird i want to be really certain and sure but my i don't
do the work that seems like a conflict i'm not saying you don't do the work but you do it enough
to feel uncertain to get the outcome that you're after that's your programming so if you want to
be able at school you have to look at your unableness hamster wheel wow
that's a lot to take in yeah but are you able to take it in yeah i'm just kidding because it
triggered your hamster wheel did you see you went yeah i feel a bit overwhelmed you said that right
yeah that was the hamster wheel it wasn't you lauren your hamster wheel kicked in went whoa i
feel about you know you didn't even need to say anything you just eyes went like that so that's
the hamster wheel taking over do you think that hamster wheel taking over will make you more able
or less able less able yeah so the hamster wheel's in charge so if you want to do better in your class
observe your hamster wheel because you can work all you like i people might listen to this and go
she just needs more discipline no she doesn't she can try as hard as she wants the hamster wheel
is in charge and so discipline you know you can have people with discipline absolutely forcing
themselves but they're going to flip back to the other side it's inevitable the more you force
so you need to watch that unable able hamster wheel with everything you know really put attention
and your energy into it and then you will be free and then without that who would you be
Lauren think about not being able to feel unable
who would you be without that
well I guess me but yeah how would that be not being able to feel unable
that would well
it makes me feel like uneasy because I've
ah it makes you fearful because who you you won't be you yeah you just gave me that was just like
perfection you it makes me feel uneasy yeah you you you say you want to be able like the top in
the class but you actually makes you feel uneasy so that is it that is so valuable what you just
said now you realize wow i've got this kind of really glitchy old program inside me and it's
stopping me from being able because little lauren it's is scared to go that side start to watch it
and then you'll be free and then you will experience what uh neutral neutral mindset is and it's so
freeing yeah so you have to this is what rob talks about in his book you have to pick up little lauren
to give her a big hug and tell her it's going to be all right oh yeah can you can you imagine what
little lauren looks like not really just look at look at some old pictures
what did sammy say you but a midget hey lauren looking at you when you started to connect with
the other side energy you changed you became more of a woman like i'm not being i don't want to sound
creepy or anything but you kind of you look stronger and more of a woman and then when you
go into this oh you you you go and your whole face changes so you you have expansion and contraction
you need to be you can't be one side or the other if you're constantly expanded you're going to get
severe contraction but you're trying to stay safe start to watch it and then you're going to
to feel yourself, connect to the way, the Tao, the neutrons,
the neutral energy, and then you'll, you know, live fully.
Thank you.
All right, Lauren.
All right.
Any further questions?
No.
No?
Okay.
Well, that was the first hour of the podcast.
We've got plenty more to talk about, though.
Yeah.
All right.
do you want to say goodbye then yeah well you're bye guys these guys are good you oh no you're not
coming to manchester are you i am i'm not i'll see you i'll see you there yeah okay cool
thank you so much bye tonight and podcast perfect thank you bye bye
well that was awesome mate uh and i hope uh yeah a lot of people have got a lot from that just
listening to the way that um you were explaining it and uh and delving into it and if i mean come
on guys go out and buy the book buy both books uh support support your fellow bitcoiners and uh
the work that's going on because like you said uh it how did it make you feel putting yourself
out there with this kind of stuff um with the the second book because it's much more understandable
logically you you know it's like this open source protocol i felt much more comfortable but the more
i became aware that i was comfortable with that the more i became aware that i was uncomfortable
with this non-physical side um but both uh fit into the framework you can't
you know um if i would say to someone who has no idea you know glitch start there it's absolutely
the most valuable thing you can do because it's the mind that traps us.
You know, all Bitcoiners want to be free.
And, you know, there's no freedom within that closed system, which is glitchy.
And you see, even with the most intelligent of the Bitcoiners, you know, they're getting
triggered and you can see it with the, you know, the knots and the core thing.
There's, you know, everyone's getting triggered.
People are feeling unable and scared and fearful.
And so it's triggering extreme responses, triggering the wheels.
Glitch has got a whole chapter, nine and three quarters from the Harry Potter movie.
I put in that and everyone's like, you shouldn't put in anything about Bitcoin.
It had to be in there.
So what I wanted to do was that to be a bit of a Trojan horse and people understand, especially
self-help, spiritual people, that in this reality, you have to look at the bigger wheels
that are spinning everyone.
And so, you know, Bitcoiners, you know,
don't necessarily need,
they'll maybe get something out of that chapter,
you know, seeing the bigger picture.
But the book is also like a way to get into other people
who think that money and, you know, the economics
and Bitcoin, you know, is something
that they don't have to look at
because they're spiritual.
you know that's um you know that's not not true yeah i love the chapter about bitcoin because
but there's there's no greater social engineering tool than than money and nobody is impervious to
that like you could be the most spiritual zen guy the you could be the monk sitting in the cave but
there's only so long before you shrivel up and die and before you know it you've got to be out on
and essentially begging for for help and food uh oh man at that point there right so you can only
know yourself in relation to others so if you go like people going into retreats and not talking to
anyone so you can do that be quiet and everything but i would suggest if you want to know yourself
go go and live with your family like that's where you're going to know about yourself and
And understanding the self is not like, oh, I need to be able to access higher realms of consciousness and I'm special and everything.
It's understanding the truth that you are controlled by these very simple programs.
And so you get in India, you get these higher spiritual beings that can hold their arm up for all their life.
They just sit there and people give them loads of money. Wow. He can hold his arm up forever. Like it's welded. Have you seen that? No. Yeah. It's like this. They've advanced. They've gone beyond pain. But if you watch, they just smoke weed all day.
there's a little bit of a tell so they numb themselves and they you know they get money
and they show look how special i'm i can hold my arm above my head it's more com it's much more
demanding being a good father and getting triggered by your kids and seeing your own
frailties and vulnerabilities and triggers uh and and that's where the real work is done i think
bitcoiners get that like if you look at ethereum if um vitalik was talking about oh we suspend the
laws of physics right and we can do whatever no that's not how money works and it's also not how
understanding the self and physical intelligence and all that um it's based on truth and results
so when i do energy work it might seem like that's complete bullshit but if you dig into
the science it's kind of all pointing towards that um we're more than just our shell and we're
all connected via plasma you know 99 of the universe is plasma and it's intelligent and
self-forming um yeah we need to get into the plasma shit now because but thank you for
the book you know oh you've delved into it clearly yeah yeah i'm reading it now
right okay uh how deep how far are you into it i think i'm on the fifth chapter and one of the
things that struck me first of all is fascinating he's he's he writes really well he does yeah it's
called so for people listening it's called a new science of heaven and i can't remember who put me
onto it uh it was a someone on twitter or a bitcoiner i have no idea or nosta uh and i picked
it up and it sat there it's one of these books that just sat there for a while because i was
getting through the other books uh and i picked it up and thank goodness i did look you pick a
book up at the right reason for the right at the right time for the right reason i said you know
uh i picked up the four-hour work week when i needed to and that extracted me from my fear
career and that helped me you know launch off into all kinds of different directions but this one i
had no idea where this one was going to take me like none and uh i wasn't phased by some people
might even be faith by the title because it has the word heaven in there right some people might
have a visceral yeah it's good though you it's it gives you a different perspective on what could
be heaven right and very uh like a much more concrete i i um dug in what struck me the most
was i've been working in like playing around with energy stuff and different modalities for 30 years
but I've been working 20 years as a living working with energy but when I say energy it
doesn't really ever mean much to me and I could call it chi and I can feel it but still there's
something that's always been like energy you know how do you explain energy you can't see it it's
like this energy but when he said oh the universe is 99 plasma and plasma um is self-forming it's
and it's intelligent, and suddenly I went, oh shit.
And so that, I'd been looking for the teacher
and I'd been asking for that teacher to come along
and help me connect with my energy work more.
I been doing it for a few months just waiting And then you said check out this book And I knew immediately that was the I knew like people tell me to read books all the time and i just i don ever look at them that book i immediately got and i started reading it i was like this is what i needed to
hear so um yeah it's it's great great amazing so a quick a quick tldr for those listening
everything is plasma including you and i and there is that what they've discovered and
I need to I'd love to get Robert Temple on the show to do a stolen science series because I've
done about seven episodes and I would love to him to come on I'd like to hear that one too because
they know the they whoever the they are they know this but it's been stolen this knowledge has been
stolen and kept secret from us because if we knew how we were all connected people have said it a
hundred times in their life probably already oh well everything's connected yes but how yeah and
now like the plasma for me is yeah it's the missing link right he does um in a podcast i'm
kind of doing a bit of a deep dive on him and listen to him different places and he said you
know this is kept like if everyone knew then it would be like um the church with the bible and
then everyone got it and so they could um you know you don't need to go to the church so it's a
control thing but he also says that if you look at the research being done into plasma if it's an
educational um you know if it's a academic they're not telling everyone else because they're working
on something that could be you know sold you know it's there's profit there's an incentive not to
tell other people and then the military a hundred percent are onto this and they have been for years
And they're not going to tell anyone because China or everyone's working on it.
So there's this hidden work being done.
And the incentive is profit, power.
And so what I like about the book is he's saying, hey, there's this stuff over here and everyone's working on it.
And they've been working on it for decades.
And, yeah, it's so I understand why they do that.
I understand why. And so all I'm interested in is how can I use this to better myself or better my clients?
So immediate is like, oh, OK, so I have for many, many years strengthened myself to the higher intelligence in the universe.
That has been not daily, but I often do it like I actually use the word resonate.
So I connect with that mental, that frequency of the higher intelligence.
But I was like, I know there's higher intelligence, but it doesn't, there's nothing showing there, you know.
Also, I know that when I connect with my insight, which is my feeling, strong or weak, my perception, intuition, that insight connects to the answers that are there in the cloud.
We don't need to memorize them.
We always get new information by accident or when we're in the shower, you know, when the mind's elsewhere.
so this downloading changes everything it means that it's not about reading loads of books although
that they can guide us a bit but it's about the next level will be when we can like a computer
connect with the information and get the answers yeah that's how i work is is via you know sometimes
like where did that come from but he's kind of explaining the um called the cordial in cordial
the cordial it's tough to pronounce cordialeski clouds i think yeah cordialeski clouds yeah
they're self uh they're non um non-organic self um organizing intelligent dust particles
and they've got um you know uh geometric shapes and they're probably sending drones
via these plasma things and you when they can go through walls and shit so it's fascinating
it's truly it's truly incredible stuff and it's like black mirror style like uh stuff but
the tldr is there are two uh plasma clouds between us and our sun and the information
obviously is being beamed at us and this is where it crosses over with jack cruz's work
uh we're getting the information via the sun and the the way that we interpret that into the only
way we can gather that information is through our eyes have you have you got to the bio photon
uh chapter yet whether i studied bio photons like in the 90s i was looking at the russians but there
was there was no way to get hold of that information but everything gives off light the organs um yes
Yes. So there's a picture in that book. I don't know if you've got it next to you anywhere, but there's a picture in the book, you'll get to it, where I think there's only two places in the world that they've really deeply studied bio photons and continue to. And one is the Netherlands, and I think the other is Russia, obviously, as you mentioned.
And there's a picture of like the headshot of a human being emanating very, very low frequency, very weak frequency.
And it shows up as light on the camera technology that they're using.
But the eyes are two black holes, solid black holes.
And it clicked for me.
It's like, holy fucking shit.
That's the one way function.
That's the SHA-256.
light rays come in but that light ray that's got to you through the plasma clouds has collected all
of that intelligent information that has been stored in the plasma like you said the self
is a self-organizing organism which is storing information it could be all information billions
of years yeah it's so far advanced from us and uh that information comes into you through your eyes
but nothing goes out through your eyes everything else comes out through the rest of your body in a
very low frequency and this is how Robert Temple explains how you might when you meet someone you
might explain oh they have a magnetic personality or some people might see auras what they're seeing
or feeling naturally is that bio photon your your plasma cloud that is around you all of the time
And the way he explains it is that you are a cloud of plasma yourself and the human body is just that that that solid core within the plasma cloud.
It's fascinating.
Yeah. And that's everything's backed up by, you know, he knows all the top Nobel laureates and scientists.
So, you know, I want to look at what, you know, because there's a lot of people that talk a lot of gobbledygook, but he's just very simple, which is, for me, it's a big green, you know, a red flag is a grifter who uses difficult language because that keeps people hooked.
and he's just very simple he's not he's selling like he's selling you know there's this wonderful
thing and so i really like that about him comes across as very genuine and um yeah i was gonna say
with jack cruise so you get all this light and then if you if your mind is completely trapped
in your ego and you're burning hard on your hamster wheels it'll wreck your light like the
chinese knew that thousands of years ago so we have meridians and i've said before dr douglas
wallace the number one mitochondrial researcher in the world he set up a clinic in china because
he thinks the mitochondrial system is the meridian system but meridians is just qi which is plasma
And so when our mind, when we're chewing our mind, it weakens our body.
And so you can spend all day in the sun, but if you're not working on doing the hamster wheel work,
you know, it does something, but you're, you know, kind of, I'm not saying pissing in the wind,
but the mind is chewing up your organs.
When you were talking to Lauren earlier, I think you used the terminology midline, and you talk about it in your book, I think Cam Yuan does it.
Is that as well, like when you look at like the ancient Chinese medicine, that line, is that the chakras as well?
Like you talked about the coccyx, and I don't remember the colors or the names of them.
Sure, sure. The chakra system. I studied the chakra system a lot and I used to work on players and douse their chakra system. Like on top players that you know, I was doing that stuff. And what I found over time is it's quite a nice way to frame, you know, particular problems in a particular area.
but i i nowadays it doesn't come like you you can work on that system but you there's there's
something that's much more sophisticated which is a one in zeros so yeah putting your hands on
the chakras and giving them some um chi you know like um i did reiki for for years and i liked it
But when people came to me, so I think I've said it in the first book, I went and see the top Tibetan guy in medicine and I trained with him and he was doing private sessions.
I was like, oh, my God, yeah. And I said, yeah, I've got this, this and this.
And he felt my pulse and said, yeah, you're good.
I was like, what? I said, yeah, but I lack confidence and I'm anxious.
He goes, oh, then you need to study the Buddhist methodology.
And I always came away from that going, no, no, no, there's something that could be much better there.
That's really analog.
So, you know, Buddhism is a wonderful religion.
But if you want to understand yourself, you can just do it yourself.
There's, you know, run your own node.
There's operating, the operating system's open source, right?
You just look at it.
If you want to take responsibility, but I was talking to someone the other day, I was kind of saying, like, I found that selling the glitch stuff, selling this idea, I'm the guy with one in the queue, you know, Bitcoin at 10,000.
And then everyone wants the quick fix, high time preference.
And this stuff is really difficult because what it means is you're going to question your ego.
you know and you you know if you're very caught in being this very able special person
that why would you destroy it why would you try and destroy it well when you know it's glitchy
you're you're gonna when you realize how bad it is you need to as quick as you can start to
deconstruct it because you're going to get smashed hard the ego and the universe always
sends you where you need to go for your learning so but selling that
most people want me to work on them energetically and do it for them which is cool but at some point
you have to do the work and you know that daniel you know you you're doing the work and it's not easy
it's not easy mate uh and i i think we're just doing this podcast right uh because we're going
to put this out there and we know let's say a thousand people listen to it 900 of them might
have tuned out within the first five minutes yeah because their ego won't let them go any further
than that like this is a load of woo-woo bullshit and i don't want to listen to this anymore these
guys like you know what where's the number go up to yeah um and ironically it's the most if the most
valuable thing they can do is to do this work but sometimes you have i think it was max keiser today
was saying don't try and persuade people to buy bitcoin they're going to need to get wrecked a
couple of times before they do understand it and that's the same for this work people need to get
wrecked physically mentally and then that and only then when they hit rock bottom do they go
uh i can't do that anymore i don't the the rect is worse than doing the work it's just how it is
very interesting mate so the uh just just to put a pin in the plasma thing i think it was a perfect
and it kind of rounded out your whole work because you've all been you've been about
operating systems, ones and zeros.
And now you literally have a cloud you can upload and download stuff from.
I talk about that in the book, Decentralized Mind.
Like we're all connected and there is this cloud, this spirit.
That's how I would talk.
He saying oh yeah this is it got all everything that ever happened stored in this cloud it fed from the sun and i find all of that fascinating i like why do i find this fascinating
but it is like um and how do how do we use that how is there something that we can all do ourselves
so the ones and zeros if all you have to do is um you know if you're listening and you're probably
not now you've jumped off but it's that classic take your awareness to the midline or your torso
and think about something that you're really proud of and see how your torso feels and then think of
the worst day of your life and you will feel a difference and that difference is strong and weak
the first one's strong second one is weak the chinese knew it they you turn your feet in it
strengthens you turn your feet out it weakens you place your hands away from you weakens you
place your hands towards you strengthens you that's why all the qigong movements are either
they're using either strengthening or one part is weakening like moving the energy so the so
you know the logical coder type is so in their head that they're going what i have a body i can
feel it yeah but that's there's a physical intelligence there like a sixth sense and
don't trust me you know i'm not like do it and i worked out all myself like i did the hard you know
work of trying it out and seeing and then i'm like wow and then you get more and more results
with it and you go wow i can't explain this but it works that's that's how you do through
observation it's like science is done through you try something and does it what's the result oh it
works i'm going to try it again and again and again it works every time the the hamster wheel
stuff the more i work with people the more they're like holy shit that's me and so all all it tells
me is that there's this protocol in the mind there's glitchy oh by the way i think it interacts
with the universe via plasma dynamics and it creates exactly what your life is based off on
that internal coding so if you want to change anything in the world don't shout at the world
look at your own coding to change the world and you know that's been said many times right
all right let's do some gab or marty stuff because i think that's really important for
people to understand that a lot of this a lot of these hamster wheels are driven by trauma and
that is derived from experiences you've had since birth I mean birth is as traumatic as it gets what
a way to enter this world especially under modern day birthing practices where you come into a
brightly lit neon led white room i just turned on my blue lights and then you get uh invariably
you're going to get jabbed with something and then you're going to be swaddled up and then
you'll be given to in fact they cut the umbilical cord like that's trauma right there yeah and then
everything gets built up on top of that but i think what what most people will be probably uh
kind of it's kind of going to resonate with them resonate there's that word rob uh like
as a young kid you get to school and you are walked up to the front gate uh as a five-year-old
little jane little johnny whatever and then all of a sudden everything's changed your whole life
has changed the family dynamic has completely changed you are now locked in a classroom with
29 other kids an adult in the room that isn't your mother and
is a complete stranger to you yeah and tells you to do stuff that you don't want to do and this all
starts this this trauma mill and these hamster wheels start picking in from there and in your
book you talk about uh very personal experiences and we can get into some of those uh and
how these how these traumatic experiences in the past aren't necessarily a bad thing because they
say like i think you called it um programming engineering program program engineering as a
five-year-old you are a genius little mind that is programming some engineering to survive and
survive yes do you want to explain that and how that manifests in later life yeah so um the schooling
system reinforces the wheels and some kids um you know on the right they go into it and and uh
quite aggressive in in winning um and then there are those on the left who are much more um you
know i used to cry when i remember crying at that age being left at nursery and crying and that
disconnect was too painful it brought up the pain the as you said the birthing practice separation
from the mother being born into parents who are busy and they have other children and it creates
a disconnect so there's a one and a zero so the one would be absolute complete belonging connection
and love and i haven't worked with anyone like that i'm looking i was kind of say like the unicorn
i'm you know probably there is someone but it's very difficult in the you know even in the east
or the west you'd have to be born into a village right and and have your mother and everyone and
there's no technology and everyone's completely present it's difficult so we experience a
disconnect and so that disconnect my what i've found out is that disconnect is the biggest trauma
that initial first disconnect and so if that's extreme disconnect as in the parents are very
disconnected and not getting on and stuff the that trauma gets encoded and your program you create a
program to survive so let me just reiterate that so there's a disconnect that trauma is there for
everyone and then that disconnect is felt as an abandonment by the parents that you're not worth
the complete attention so there's the worthless that that worthlessness then drives our society
so we get on that we create these programs to survive so if you're on the right you go i'm
going to be the most valuable thing and everyone's going to love me um you know uh sylvester sloan
in his documentary like clearly talks about he'd spent his life being trying to be valuable to gain
the love of the audience to only realize in when he's 80 that it was just an illusion and that his
real love was with his family so that's on the right and if you're on the left you create one
where you try and be valuable but you do it by being nice to others and kind and supporting others
so you support the righties so it's like a one and a zero you you go left or right but it's all
trying to be valuable successful proud because you didn't get your love connection belonging so
your needs weren't met so the next thing down as i call in the book plastic it's not real is valuable
so all the great sports people the high level you know the world champions they're all they do that
to be valuable and then when i work with them you know when they get the medal straight afterwards
depression because it's in it's an illusion it's a closed loop and no one wins okay so you've got
kind of it's very simple the child is either on the right or the left i haven't met any other way
there are some weird things where people break literally break the hamster wheel and become
they're completely delusional and it's it's not based on the wheel anymore they they kind of
they they they're trying to be on the right it all costs not to go to the other side but it becomes
pathological and and the mental illness or or extreme uh personality disorder okay so you got
this left and the right and so that trauma what i found is when i'm working with someone who then
has a traumatic experience later in life, for me, the difficulty they have with that trauma or
divorce or whatever is it's that initial trauma compounded. So when someone comes to me and they've
got an addiction problem or they're burnt out or they're being cheated on or they're suicidal,
or whatever i go back and explain that initial trauma disconnect now it doesn't mean they talk
about it that's not how it works and there was someone on joe rogan talking about this saying
yeah therapy is rubbish you just talk about your trauma that's it's like saying like um
mixed martial arts is not effective because of aikido like you you just need to understand that
that was the process and then look at your life and see the framework and it's there you you've
done it you you can see your behavior and then know that when you experience something very
difficult traumatic or you're struggling you have it's the program spinning from childhood so you go
to the coder and say hey it's okay and and that separation and dissolving of it balances out your
hamster wheel and then you don't attract experiences to like when i say you create your
own reality i'm talking you literally create your own reality so you pull things in to experience
you know where the imbalance is it's kind of teaching you um so you you use your observation
you look at your behavior it's just patterns so i've seen that pattern again and again again
thousands of times and then you tell other people they go oh my god yeah and then everyone's telling
everyone else oh yeah it's like a hamster wheel so sorry um no that's good uh and in the way you
explain it in the book is you know get get into admin mode right so as an adult as a 50 year old
man you are still running a hamster wheel that was engineered and programmed by a five-year-old kid
and if you aren't none of us are aware because you know your work is now just hitting the wire
uh and hopefully now people will be able to read it and figure this out for themselves but instead
of you fooling first of all you've got to know why you're feeling this anxiety why you're feeling
this way why you're why you're being triggered why you're behaving in such a way why does this
keep happening yeah like you know uh and then realize ah that must be the hamster wheel getting
triggered now instead of me being a little bitch to that hamster wheel I'm going to be the admin
and I'm just going to click it down like the spinny wheel of death on you you know force quit
I'm going to force quit that hamster wheel yeah and act as the admin and uh tell the you know tell
little Dan or tell little Rob pick him up and say dude honestly freaking awesome job but I got this
now like we're good with this one yeah so we don't use bitch in the i had to pick you up on that one
but um it's under it gives you a framework it's a framework to understand how the mind works it's so
simple and everything should be simple and it should be open source like the more someone hides
it behind the paywall i think there's a grift like there it's um value for value let's say i
think so your uh everything you said was spot on and so we had um moving into adam yeah i just want
to say that i realized that jiddu krishnamurti who's a brilliant thinker and he he i studied
to him and he's the one that got me doing this and then he talked about david bomb by the way
robert temple discusses david bomb's theory of the universe yes and so i saw that and i was like
i like david bomb so for those listening bomb is spelt b-h-o-m and krish krishnamurti b-b-o-h-m
bomb b-o-h-m yeah correct he's a brilliant thinker and jiddu krishnamurti was they would talk to
each other and it's it's big brains really dissecting how the mind works so krishnamurti
brilliant like like i'd love to have met him he's like deep deep thinker and what i did i came away
from his work looking for simplifying it like wow this is really complicated what why is it so
complicated and then i saw david bomb had criticized his work saying it's amazing but no one understands
it. And so in doing so, I started looking for patterns and working with my clients with it,
like observing really closely And it started to build out this map And so what I think this thing here this hamster wheel a worker for understanding humans it is what Krishnamurti says
But it's just more explained.
He didn't see the path, or he probably did.
I can't talk for him.
But I think it just enables someone to put their clothes on something
so that they can understand the dynamics a little bit better.
Because without that, it's like so complicated.
People go, I can't see, I can't do this.
So it's, Krishnamurti got me into this.
And then I think the hamster wheel work is something that is an open source protocol
and everyone should know it.
it just explains why we uh why we have addictions um you know why we obsessive why we can't stop
why we get triggered it all explains it and you you mentioned uh we haven't talked about him the um
wonderful uh what's his name i'm having a brain fart gabo marty gabo marty and so he he's i was
looking for what's the little circle when i'm working with clients like why people kept saying
why do i do do this why do i have this behavior that's like this and like that and i was like what
is this what is it and then i listened to i'd already read some of his books but when he said
it i heard it at that right moment and then i went yes that initial trauma that disconnect
creates the aberrant behavior that runs us for the rest of our life.
So Gabo Matt is awesome.
Yeah, his childhood trauma.
I mean, hold on to your kids is, I think, essential reading for any
Bitcoin are about to have families or considering homeschooling,
unschooling, taking kids out of an existing system that they're in
because, yeah, he smashes down so many instilled beliefs of,
you know yeah and he's so he he's got that age that experience and he's so
calm and and i love the way he's so authentic you know i i've maybe said it before but
one in one of his conferences he says you know i got triggered by my wife she didn't turn up on
time and i felt ignored paying attention to ignored hamster wheel he doesn't talk about
hamster wheels but he said that and so i ignored her and she said you're acting like a child
and he was she said why and they talked about it and someone said when was this like 40 50 years
ago he goes no two days ago yeah so it just goes to show that there's no mastery like it's uh
it's a that no mind or you're caught in your mind and so to be free it's not like you go
and you take your mind away we always have a mind it's just understanding it
you don't hold and try and control it you just understand it through understanding you free
yourself i i was brought on to his work by tim ferris uh i used to listen to his podcast weekly
and he had gabble mate on and they they did an on the fly kind of question answer almost session
basically and it within five minutes tim's like i've got to stop this now i can't carry on
answering these questions and a few months later he did an episode where he released
uh due to the work he did with gabor in that five minutes uh how he had been abused as a child
yeah uh by a babysitter that was employed by his mother and he'd been carrying this trauma
for all of that time and gabor unlocked that with a few questions it was just incredible to watch
yeah with that when when you spend all your time listening to people you get really good at hearing
things and you you kind of uh pull the string yeah and he he's like an expert at that and
he pulls the string he knows he knows where and um that comes from doing experience and he's
brilliant and thankfully he's written books so that other people can you know when the body says
no keep your children safe like keep keep your children close like it's so beautiful he's so
gentle and soft and people say oh yeah soft parenting is bullshit and all these different
styles it's like parenting if you want to parent you you work on yourself and you observe your own
behavior around them because the moment you try and change them you're stepping into the mind
you're going to get the opposite so i saw something i've seen so many things like everywhere you look
there's it's going to reinforce this is i shouldn't have treated my children like soldiers
yeah now he's got he's wrecked them i worked with a guy for a long time he was in self-development
kept bigging his kids up now they're completely insecure addictions um you know you should treat
your kids with discipline and the word of the lord and you're going to get the vicar's daughter
like it's it's uh the more you force something and try and control the more you're going to get
an out of control child and so you have to look at your behavior and your kids are not your
they're yours but you have to look what does that mean and you know punishment and everything is
a control thing and you do it because of your hamster wheels so that's where it gets you're
taking full responsibility and it's it's rough you know with my kids i sometimes go you're not
gonna get this and then i'm like as i'm saying it i'm like oh and i walk away and i come back and i
say i'm sorry i got triggered and my i say my hamster wheel i felt unable and i i tried to
gain control over you by making you unable and i really apologize and so i treat my children
seriously yeah and it's the ultimatums us as parents always put down right like but it's do
this or you won't get that yeah and it could be always comes from our own programming right
yeah absolutely follow it yeah so for anybody can resonate with this because like right eat
greens or no dessert how many of you have heard that yeah and now some people don't eat their veg
and now we're going full carnival
yeah and and that's another thing like taste like but you know kids taste is different and so we
we're you know i remember being at um the family dinner and there were onions and they were not
cooked properly and eating them literally made me want to vomit and my dad said if you don't eat
them you're not leaving the table until they've eaten right i had to i had to put them in my mouth
and i was literally white gagging and i could see everyone shocked and like shamed like feeling
ashamed i felt so ashamed but my dad was probably doing it because he felt ashamed because i'd left
food on my table because he was brought up very strict but and there's trauma there as well with
that generation right that's something we've not talked about generational trauma and geographical
trauma and so we're both from britain and uh going through our our parents being brought up
through the 50s by their parents that went through the second world war went through rationing
yeah and you know if you that that's where that i think that's where that comes from especially in
britain's like you know the thought of leaving food on a plate when a whole generation of people
had no idea where the next meal was coming from is disrespectful like disrespectful shameful
absolute shame like how dare you yeah you know regardless of whether or not you like the taste
or it makes you feel sick like all of that aside yeah yeah uh here's a but if if we look at
computers like when there's a glitch on the computer and it's never solved it goes through
generations of computers and so you go back a hundred years try going back 200 years in the uk
how was it there for children how you know three four you know the generations back does it get
better or or was it brutal was there poverty and serfdom and um well i know what we're told in
history books but i don't know what i believe yeah but what what i could see what i would suggest is
that it wasn't because of the world war although that would have reinforced the wheels but i look
back at my grandparents childhood victorian you know brutal so the brits you know were they really
loving or did they stick their baby outside for all day in the air you know like um you if you
look at tribes like the the book um i'm just brain farting there's a um it's a book by a german
model who wanted to find out if there were ever any kids born without trauma and so she found this
south american tribe where the no one shouted at the kids the kids were allowed to just be
and um oh shit it's right on the tip of my tongue anyway the um the the kids never cried
and then a kid was parents were killed in another tribe and they that kid was brought into
this tribe and it would fight and scream and then the other kids would um not react
they had no programming and then the kid was assimilated and lost all his programming
um and so that was um something that sylvia really looked into like you you need a community
to raise children you need really all the parents being open and and understanding that trauma is
passed down through the parents like programs and it's no one's fault it's just like a computer it's
like the operating system is passed down without you know the more you try not to pass it pass it
on ironically by telling kids oh you you're wonderful and you're still passing on the program
is it called tribe on homecoming and belonging no it's um oh shit no it's uh
there's something way or i'll um
all right well i'll find it and put it in the uh the show notes once uh
once we've figured that out um yeah no one one last thing on uh dr cam you and i found very
interesting today uh on a little clip i was watching he said be careful of those people
that tell you to live in the now because there is no now yeah we are constantly moving forward
with the whole universe every millisecond there is no now you cannot dwell on now like and i'm like
whoa he's like anyone's selling you now is the snake horse helsman something like that but like
yeah um i think um because i i uh followed um here's another brain fart um the guy the power
of now ecart tolle ecart tolle's work i followed that two years hardcore and i talk about it in the
book that it helped me get through the difficult confrontations and stuff because i was just spaced
out i was like oh now now like none of the hamster wheels could trigger because i was just now now
And I was just constantly observing, but it caused a problem in me.
Like you can't understand what's going on.
You're fundamentally you're suppressing it.
You're numbing it.
And so you have to see the mind wanting to go into the future.
And that's the hamster wheel wanting to be more able and be right.
And you start fantasizing about how you're going to be amazing or you go into the past
and you think about things.
and nostalgia or painful experiences,
but you suddenly wake up and you're like,
oh God, where did the time go?
Is this what Krishnamurti would describe
as like true meditation is having no pictures in your mind?
Something like that?
Like, you know, you're constantly running that movie
in your brain, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, we talked when we met in Madeira for Free Madeira.
I think I said to you, how long do you go without thinking?
And you went, what do you mean?
Every second.
But the more you start to,
if you try and control your mind by staying in the now,
it's still your, it's an action.
And so you're still, it's still the mind
you're trying to control.
So what you have to do,
is simply observe.
And the more you observe your mind trying to distract you,
the more you see, the more distance you get from it
and you dissolve it, and the outcome is no mind.
Yeah?
Whereas if you've set an alarm clock
to do your meditation practice between 20 a.m. and 10.40 a.m.,
and then you, like, it's antithetical to the whole idea
of meditation, right?
because it's yeah go ahead no no absolutely and and meditation is as christian murthy would say
is understanding the self that's what meditation is you if you're going and you're you know you've
got one arm in the air or you've got a long beard and you're sitting there and your fingers like
this and you're taking instagram posts you know photos when you meditate um i used to meditate
say decades ago where i would you know i have a thought come up and i'd let it go
and so it's kind of yeah in a way you're getting a little bit of distance between the thoughts
but it never it just no one does it or they tell everyone about it and so it's like a thing but
what i've come to understand is meditation is when you're getting triggered by your daughters
or when you're in the kitchen or when you're on the toilet it's meditation is understanding how
your mind is loops
and when you
can see that and observe it
then you can
as Christian
Murthy would say the window opens
but you can't force the window
but you
it will open and that
is a sense of peace
and you can pass
more and more time with no
thoughts
like
10 minutes
and hours but your mind is always there and so you can immediately come back to it and use it
but everyone's being used by their mind everyone's being used by their mind i think that's got to be
the title mate for this this podcast unless you're spiritual i'm joking yeah
um yeah so the the the when it boils down to it there it it's just understanding the self
observing the way the mind works and if you can do that and you take responsibility you're going
to see that it creates your reality um the more you try and force and react to it the more you get
the opposite it's they're simple rules it's a bit like a game that's why we're here um and the more
you do it and the calmer you get the more you don't give a shit about being famous and you just
you enjoy nature more you enjoy you connect more with nature you connect more with your kids you
and that's invaluable it's the most it's priceless is why we're here is to be present without the
mind the mind is mechanical it's secondhand it's why people kill themselves because they're
there's pointless um and so there's one in a zero you're either present fully experiencing life but
you can't force that that's the that's the glitch that catches everyone you know it's fascinating
stuff rob and we been going for almost two hours we could still keep going but i know you got a wife and kids to go connect with and so do I So we will we stick a pin in this one and I sure we do a part two or part three
actually at some stage,
because there's a bunch more we didn't touch on.
I wanted to get into,
you know,
the homeschooling project and everything that you guys are doing actually a
quick shill for that.
So people can,
can reach out and find out what you're up to and where you are on that
journey.
Yeah. So Sylvia's really pushed a placetobe.me is the website, which is a community of like-minded people fear-proofing their kids or future-proofing their kids.
And so the idea is it takes a community to raise children. There'll be possibly more than 25 houses now that we've bought 500,000 meter square piece of land in Madeira.
This was enabled by us partnering with Citadel.Garden.
You can search that, which is kind of decentralized living.
And they saw what Silver and myself and the team had been creating there and they saw its value.
And so we now one of the hubs for this decentralized living is very much Bitcoin centric,
especially our place to be is the B is a Bitcoin symbol.
And what it is, is a place where children can be themselves
and through self-direct their learning.
So there will be touch points for all sorts of different.
There'll be a robotics lab.
There'll be painting.
There'll be woodwork.
If kids just don't want to do anything, it's up to them.
They're free.
that's how children used to grow up and uh counterintuitively as is everything it would
seem in life the more you leave children alone the more they learn the quicker they learn and
if you because of your fear you try and force them to learn so that there's the hamster wheel
coming in the more you will put them off um learning and you'll dampen that genius um level
of learning that is there in early childhood, but it gets extinguished
as they go through the schooling system.
So check it out.
It's awesome if you have kids or you think you're having kids, check it out
because it's already a lot of people signing up and getting involved.
Excellent, mate.
And what will you be doing in Manchester?
Will you be doing a talk about your book?
Yeah, I'll be doing a talk about my book.
Do you have any ideas?
What would you think would be a good angle?
Maybe not the plasma stuff just yet.
I might just kind of, oops, there's a plasma screen on there.
I love the, I tell you what might be a good one.
How can you tie it in with Bitcoiners?
the last thing we want to see is Bitcoiners losing their Bitcoin, right?
And how is the hamster wheel working in the background somewhere?
Because I see it a lot.
Everyone's got these elaborate multi-sig setups and all over the place.
And then like in four years time, when they go to access it,
it's going to be too complicated and they can't access their Bitcoin
because of the actions they were taking now because of their fear of loss.
Their fear of loss and they get it.
I think you know that the idea of there is this law and I think everyone knows that the more fearful you are of losing your girlfriend the more your jealousy you hold onto her
you're going to lose her.
The harder you squeeze a bar of soap.
Yeah.
So there's this law there.
That's a good, that would be good.
Yeah. Something, I don't know, mate, we can talk about it.
Like something Bitcoin centric that's really going to hit home.
Okay.
I need your, spit me some great stuff over on Telegram or something.
Will do, mate.
Or Signal, excuse me.
If people want to work with you in any way, if they want sessions with you,
what's the best way for them to come and interact?
Yeah, if you want to work with me, I love that.
It's extremely valuable.
You can email me at support at robbrindead.com.
You can go to robbrinday.com and sign up for my email because I write emails pretty much every day, giving my thoughts on different things that I think you can use.
So it's also valuable. And I have glitched the book.co where you can buy the book.
But, you know, if you want to get in touch is support of robbrinday.com.
Will you be bringing books to Manchester?
I will. Yeah.
I'm looking forward to a signed one.
Oh, you will be getting one for sure.
Excellent.
Cheers, Rob.
Appreciate it, mate.
Take care.
Great to see you again.
Thanks so much.
Well, there you go, guys.
I hope you enjoyed that one.
I have a sneaky suspicion this might get a second listen
for a certain niche subset of you
that has really grasped onto what Rob has to say here
and his work.
uh yeah robbrended.com get over there and check it out reach out to him he dropped his email
address there at the end uh i'll even put that in the show notes as well for you to be able to
reach out to him easily i'll put his x or twitter handle on there so you can follow him or dm him
and his nostor and pub as well so you can get right up to speed with rob and his work and uh
I'm pretty sure there's a YouTube video out there of his talk at Baltic Honey Badger a couple of years ago
where he talks about the hamster wheel and he has the board up there, the whiteboard up on stage with him.
But honestly, the best thing to do is just book in a session.
You can pay with sats, so you're supporting the Bitcoin economy,
but at the same time, the hour you spend with him, he will do the Zoom call with you
and he will have the whiteboard behind his shoulder
and he'll construct the hamster wheel for you.
And he does this personally for everybody that he speaks to.
I know because I've done it not just once.
I've done it several times.
I've done it with Lauren and Samuel and my other kids as well
because I think it's a very, very important process to go through
and something that I hope I, as a parent,
can help my kids understand the way they think, why they think that way,
clearing some of this baggage, some of this trauma
that I as a parent have been part of passing down to them.
That is on me.
And I have to come to terms with that myself as well.
This is an endless battle of mind control.
And people like Rob who have done the deep dives,
If you go back if you really enjoyed this episode go back and listen to our first one like I said at the beginning of the show here because he been around a long time That episode 264 You find it on the Once Bitten podcast GoToFountain
That's where I am hosting the podcast now.
I mean, it is obviously on Spotify. It's on Apple. It's on all of the other podcast platforms as well.
but I think as Bitcoiners we should be supporting the Bitcoin economy
and the tools that are being built for us to use
because if not you, then who?
I mean, who's going to buy Rob's book for Bitcoin?
Only us.
Who's going to use the Fountain app and stream sats and boost sats
to their favorite podcasters?
Only us.
Who's going to go and listen to music on Wav Lake
and stream sats directly to the artists?
Only us.
It's up to us.
This is as grassroots as it gets.
like we are building the economy this isn't a top down that we're not being forced to do this
this is a choice and you have the choice to step out of one system and into the other and the other
system by the way is a lot fucking better than what you're in at the moment in every single
possible manner so get out there and support those companies um you can support the uh the
our sponsors as well. Relay, R-E-L-A-I.CH forward slash Bitten. That's a place for you to stack
sats across Europe. Bitbox, like I said at the beginning, self-custody is so key. Pun intended.
If you do not have control over your Bitcoin, someone else does. It's that simple. It's like
going to buy a new car and then walking out of the dealership having left the keys
with the salesman.
I mean, you've just given the salesman all your cash,
but you walked out with nothing.
He's got the keys to your car.
He's the one that can drive it and use it whenever he wants.
You don't have it.
That's the same with your Bitcoin.
If you've given your fiat currency,
your pounds, your euros, your yen, your dollars,
if you've given that to an exchange for Bitcoin,
but you've not taken the Bitcoin
you've not taken control of that Bitcoin
you do not have the keys
you've just walked out of the car dealership
after giving them your money
this makes zero fucking sense guys
get yourself a Bitbox
bitbox.swiss forward slash Bitten
take control of your Bitcoin
you are the only one that should have control over that Bitcoin
you're the only one that should have the keys
to that Bitcoin
like it's that
I don't know if a more simple analogy.
If you want any more information on self-custody,
get over to bitbox.swiss.
They have tons of blog posts, educational resources.
It's something you need to start taking very seriously.
Paywithflash.com is the best place for you to go now
to start accepting Bitcoin for your goods and services.
They've made it so damn easy for you.
Paywithflash.com.
And like I said at the beginning,
go out and meet your Bitcoiners.
Orange Pill App is the place for you to go and do that.
almost 20,000 Bitcoiners around the world ready to connect with you. Pure signal. They're going to
plug you into the local economy. They're going to get you up to speed with who's accepting Bitcoin
in your local area, where the events are, whether that's a meetup, whether that's a walk, whether
that's a huge conference. It doesn't matter. It's all there. Get over to Orange Pill App. Join us
over there. Send me a DM. Let me know you've joined. And the link is in the show notes.
with all that said
I hope you really enjoyed that one with Rob
thank you again for listening
I'm out of music
catch you on the next show
thanks always for listening