Hello, everybody. My name is Daniel Prince, and I'm the host of the Once Bitten podcast.
This is a podcast focused on Bitcoin. It's my mission to interview as many people as I can
around the different aspects of Bitcoin and help people understand exactly what Bitcoin could mean
for them and for their families and for their future. I hope you enjoy the show. Thank you so
much for listening. Hello everybody, welcome to this episode of the Once Bitten podcast. Joining
me today is Street Saiba, a street artist who has a focus on educating as many people as he possibly
can with his artwork which he pastes around cities all over the world. He's mainly based in Spain
and he has been invited to showcase his work at some very high-end, mainstream, very well-known
art galleries which is really interesting to see that this kind of work is getting picked up
by the mainstream and if you want to watch this I would recommend you watch it I have already
pre-released this one on YouTube because Street Cyber just has a full gallery of his artwork up
it's free it's free for everybody to see and he wants people to see it he wants people to download
the free pdfs make stickers from it make posters get out there and put them up the artwork you know
the ones that resonate with you or hand them out as stickers at conferences or wherever uh so this
is like the bitcoin ethos and it's free up on youtube if you're listening on fountain app you
can now stop this and watch the video uh it's not just audio now on fountain app you have audio and
video on the mobile fountain app please download it and listen on fountain get off spotify get off
Apple, get yourself as a Bitcoiner across onto the parallel system. And that is using the tools
that are being built by Bitcoiners. And especially in this case, where you can watch the artwork as we
talk through his story, we go through the whole usual arc, the rabbit hole story, what got him
into art and all this kind of stuff. But the whole time, he's just scrolling through some of the
pieces. And then we delve into some of the pieces and what they mean to him and why he was inspired
to make them and where he's put them in the world so i really appreciate this one and it's very
timely that this should get released after the little flash crash that we had over the weekend
now i apologize because apparently i'm a bitcoin influencer people like to call and point fingers
at podcasters and call them influencers well i've got to be the shittest influencer in the world
if all I'm trying to get you guys to do is stack sats,
dollar cost average, do not get over your skis,
do not leverage, buy in the most private manner
that you possibly can that's available to you,
take self-custody, don't trade, don't leverage,
and live your life.
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All of these tools are here and you can get the discount.
If you want to go out and meet Bitcoiners face-to-face and set up your own little peer-to-peer trading, that's brilliant.
Do that.
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accepting Bitcoin. In fact, demanding Bitcoin for your goods and services. Don't accept Bitcoin for
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money. And if you get the pushback, well, I don't know how to do that, blah, blah, blah. Of course,
you're going to get that. Education is out there. There's no excuses anymore. This is what this
episode is about. Education. And the number go up is the number of people that goes up every day.
More people join the network than the day before. That is the only metric that matters. Stop looking
at the dollar signs number of people in bitcoin go up and on that note get out there and meet
bitcoiners get to a conference we've got some coming up in october you have the bitcoin balkans
in sofia and you have manchester 21st to the 23rd of november and you also have btc japan in tokyo
links in the show notes with discounts finally uh basalto fund this is a quick shout out for my
friend andre loja over at the free madeira project he came on episode number 553 i think it was go
check that out and learn about the basalto fund where you can get a second passport if this is
what you're looking to do meanwhile sit back relax enjoy this one with street cyber all right street
cyber we are recording great to have you on the show thank you for coming on hi thank you daniel
right Lauren
thank you
Lauren is going to ask you the first question
and you came prepared
what does art
mean to you
for me
personally it means
to raise my
voice and
to make my
thoughts and emotions
visible
to the public
amazing yeah I see I see the art here and it looks pretty cool yeah so for those of you watching on
YouTube Cyber has got some of his gallery some of his work up and just scrolling through so if you
do want to switch over to to YouTube or actually hopefully the fountain app now has video enabled
and you'll be able to see more of the artwork there as well but I've seen these stickers at
the Cypher Monk house in Bloomsbury. I've seen them all over as well. And I did purchase,
thank you for the stickers you sent. So this is a packet of the stickers that you sent over
of your artwork. Here is the book I purchased, The Art of Revolution. And I've got number
71 out of 100. And you sent that out on block 859-763, 859-763. It's still in the packaging.
cyber i'm not opening it i've decided after i even tweeted i did tweet uh should i open it
did you see yes i've and then i had a chat with uh asanoa who's now started the
bitcoin art magazine and he saw my tweet and he said don't open that man like what are you
i was already leaning that way so it is completely still in its wrapping that's how it's gonna stay
and that goes with the rest of my bitcoin memorabilia and there are even stickers in
there as well i was gonna say i nearly opened the sticker packet earlier yeah lauren lauren came in
and she saw the sticker packet and she was just about to tear it over i want to keep i want to
keep those sealed as well yeah um not as special because you know it's not the book but but still
it's it's something very very unique uh so why why then lauren do you think i mean i did explain
it to you earlier what would you have opened the the book and no i wouldn't have opened the book
i would have opened the stickers you'd have opened the sticks but right okay but why would you not
have opened the book then because it's only 71 out of 100 so it's scarce so that means in the future
it would be um uh more value more valued yeah uh it will become more well there'll be more bitcoiners
uh so that means there'll be more people more demand more interest and yeah you're right there's
only 100 copies and we got number 71 how many left cyber uh i think for right now number 72
and number 73 have been also sold so just a few more left uh that are signed and numbered
so it's definitely a collector's item and all the all the works that are inside the book you can
I also see them in my online gallery and also my social media.
So it's not a secret what's inside.
But yeah, it was intended to be more like a collector's item, something that you hodl.
Yes.
Well, and how much are you charging for the book?
So those listening that are interested and might want to hurry up and get themselves a copy, get to the website.
is at 60 euro and it's signed and numbered and has a blog time on it and it's called the art of
revolution because it's part of my first exhibition art exhibition that i had that was also called the
art of revolution which i showed the picture earlier so where was that exhibition can you tell
about that yeah it was at the art vistas gallery in barcelona uh it's a very famous painter was born
in the very same building uh juan miró it's the name uh he's on one level with picasso but not so
famous worldwide but very famous in spain because they're from the same time so it was a really
great honor for me to be able to do my first exhibition inside the art gallery and you can
see here a picture it was were more than 300 pieces exhibited for over a month i think five
weeks of the exhibition and many people from just walking by and interested in art just walked in
and could learn something about our financial system and about Bitcoin.
That's awesome.
So just to clarify, I think a lot of Bitcoiners, they're used to now seeing,
and it depends on the conference, but if you go to a conference,
there might be a small art section or in some cases it could be a great big art section It always great fun to go and walk around and look at the different pieces of art But yours was in a Normie museum
very, very famous, ran for five weeks. And it was all about Bitcoin and the state of the
monetary system and trying to get people to think differently about it. So what kind of feedback did
you get from the curators of who even approached you to to do that in the first place or did you
approach them i did approach them i approached the the the gallerist and she was interested and even
like six seven years ago she told me she tried to accept bitcoin as payment for her art online which
she already does now.
I helped her set up everything
so you can buy all the different artworks
from all different artists
and pay with Bitcoin in this art gallery.
And she was interested,
but she told me nobody actually ever paid her in Bitcoin back then.
And first, she didn't really...
She told me the gallery is full, they have no space,
but after a little talk she was really interested and allowed me to bring a couple artworks
and they sold very quickly so I approached her to do this art exhibition and yeah this
how it led from one point to another and what she told me what was what she was very surprised
when she started offering my art in her gallery um people different people started showing up so
people in suits more like from the financial world people started coming in uh something that didn't
happen before in this art gallery and um during the opening of this art exhibition there were a lot of
artists attending from other galleries because they were really curious they asked me questions
some were confused they didn't know if this artworks are pro bitcoin or against bitcoin
so they asked me about it and the whole point is to raise questions i don't want an artwork to be
obvious like very obvious from the first side because i want people to ask questions because
artwork it doesn't start an argument it starts a question and this is a good entry point
for complex topics like money so let's scroll through a few and then lauren you
when you see one that catches your eye we can talk about it
i was gonna say the balloon one yeah okay yeah just stop there go up again on the left it's the
the banksy girl isn't it yes yes uh-huh so um where have you seen that painting before just
online or just online yeah everywhere some bitcoin t-shirts yeah yeah so very famous picture
Can you give us the history of that picture and then what, you know, the inspiration you took and how you changed it?
Yes, the original artwork is by Banksy.
I'm not sure of the name.
It's this Wind Girl or Windy Girl.
And there are different also iterations, one with the life saving ring on the boat and one with the balloon.
And I created my own iteration.
This is just some spot on the street that I really like
because of all those tags on the back.
And it gives like this chaotic atmosphere.
And with the girl and the balloon inside,
my eyes, it shows some more clarity.
And how would you, Laurie, interpret?
What do you think?
What is the meaning of this piece?
I don't know.
It could be Bitcoin is just out of reach for her
or it could be...
Yes, maybe she's missing an opportunity.
Do you have other thoughts?
I don't know.
Someone's stealing it.
The wind is stealing it.
but it could be like i don't know yeah there there is no no wrong answer that's the point you
know every person can look at it and can have another feeling about it and there's nothing like
right or wrong about your interpretation because interpretation because it's a personal something
personal personal connection that each person um makes for from it's called uh bitcoin is freedom
so maybe she lets the balloon free and it goes with the wind and it's like a free financial system
this is another site where you could interpret it but like i said there is not really a right
wrong way to see this so i've been whilst you guys have been chatting i've got a little bit
of background on the actual original piece uh it's called girl with balloon and uh girl with
balloon is a series of stencil murals around london by the graffiti artist bank c started in 2002
they depict a young girl with her hand extended toward a red heart-shaped balloon carried away
by the wind uh okay so there were several iterations of this um none of them apparently
still stand but do you remember lauren uh that you might never have seen this in 2018
a framed copy of the work shredded yes a framed copy of the work was shredded after being sold at
auction by way that by way of a mechanical device banksy had hidden inside the frame
banksy confirmed that he was responsible for the shredding and gave the altered piece a new name
love is in the bin sotheby's said it was the first work in history ever created during a live auction
so because it was sold for even more well yeah because it became a new piece of art
as soon as it was shredded it was something else uh and right and it also got stuck in the middle
so it only shredded to the uh to the half so half of it is still in the frame and the other half is
like dangling down there uh which is shredded because it got stuck in the middle of the shredding
I wonder where or how much that is now
2.8 million
wow
like this book will be
one day
oh you mean
the shredded one
the anonymous street artist
half shredded
so 2021
there it is half shredded
so you still got the balloon
in 2021
2021 it was sold for 1.1 million now being sold for record 16 million despite only being expected
to fetch close to six girl with balloon so yeah wow
unbelievable and you changed it into a uh a piece of bitcoin up love it yes banksy was my
first inspiration
this is how I started I took his
pieces and
changed them to have
a message about Bitcoin
and from there on
I started creating
my own pieces
and now
it's the
first series they created was purely
based on the works from Banksy
and now they're
my own
and this is something that
I think is intended by the artist Banksy and there are many many hundreds and maybe even
thousands of artists that do it exactly the same they use the really simple designs by Banksy to
get a starting point and from there on they work towards their own characteristic style
and it's in the stencil monochromatic high contrast black and white style but every artist
has it's a little bit different so when you look at different artists that
do the stencil style you can you start seeing all the differences between them
mostly um i think one of one of my favorite ones is the is it the guy throwing a molotov cocktail
or something yes where's that one sure yeah bitcoin is that that one so instead of the
molotov cocktail yeah you go it looks like bitcoin sunflowers or bitcoin there's a bunch
of flowers with bitcoin that's what it says to me anyway like the guy's holding a bunch of flowers
which is obviously an offering of peace or love
rather than the Molotov cocktail
which was designed to hurt.
Right, also if you're on the gallery
and you click on the information button
you get some info here.
So it's like you said, it's more neutral
with the
flowers
and the Molotov cocktail.
Yeah, it's very cool.
Iconic piece of artwork.
So Lauren,
any further questions whilst we're looking
at the artwork?
Yeah, what is
do you have a
favourite piece of art that you've made yourself
or are they all kind of like
your favourite?
Yeah,
a good question i like all of them because it's for me it's about the message they portray i always
want to give the viewer some feeling of empowerment and reach some emotion and for me it's always
about the next artwork that i will put on the street so my favorite artwork is always the one
that I will do next. So you think up the piece of art, you design it and then what? How do you get
it onto the street? Are you going out at like 2am in the morning with a mop and paste and getting it
out? Do you have a specific target? Is everywhere something different? How does that thought process
Let's go for you.
So I do this during the day.
I like to hide in the light And so I did it in many capitals
like Paris, London, Berlin,
and many other cities.
And this picture is from New York.
And because it's not a permanent installation,
because I paid first, I get an idea,
then I designed the image on my computer,
then I painted on paper with acrylic paint,
and then I cut it out.
And either I already scouted the place before,
so I saw some place and thought,
oh, okay, I want to put an artwork here,
or I do it more spontaneously.
I just take them with me, go outside,
and look for places that fit.
I always try to put it somewhere where it seems to fit in.
For example, let's say, usually, like this one,
I choose high traffic areas,
or I choose areas where it's more on topic,
like here for example
on the
library
and
which I
after putting this artwork there
and after like two weeks
I came back to see it
and the graffiti on the side
it was removed
but they left
the artwork, my artwork
yes
and they liked it
down if it's just but how do you stick it there because it's just paper i put it wallpaper glue
yeah for uh windley wallpaper so it sticks there very well some some pieces they stay for many
years two three four years especially if i put them higher up where like someone who's passing
by cannot just rip it off then they can stay there also for for more than 10 years and sometimes
something like this happens where the the building um every building has someone who takes care of it
and sometimes they see an artwork and they say okay we like it we just stay we just leave it
there because it's on topic and this happened uh with this library they they just left the artwork
my artwork but they removed the graffiti on the right side so you got really graffiti and left
that so the paperwork is is it kind of special paper that uh is like water resistant no it's
regular paper uh the color the paint it's water resistant once it's dry but um sometimes when
artwork is like there for a year and it was raining a lot then their corner can start coming
off but it's part of the process so the artwork it never stays the same once you put it on the
street it starts living its own life someone comes by paints over the bitcoin you know someone painted
like the black color over the bitcoin but it's still shining through so he changed it someone
ripped off a little bit of the shoulder someone else is drawing something next to it you know
so there's always something happening and it's never the same every time i come visit an artwork
it always looks different and this is part of the of the community life everyone has something to say
and everyone has the right to do it wow so would that be just one piece that you do you have a lot
of those over in different cities or when you put one up it's just one piece it's unique
uh when once when i started uh i did a lot of the same pieces for example
the soldiers i did i think almost in every major city in paris this is in paris and
forum the house like in the city center i put the soldiers on the berlin wall
which i did at night it was the only one only thing that i really did at night
because i covered like the most famous artwork on the berlin wall and i also got stopped by security
um what did they say they i i was putting on the glue and then there were like two or three
security people there and they asked me what i'm doing and because i'm from berlin so i speak
the same dialect so i could just explain them i'm an artist i just do my job and they were like okay
but i think it was because i i speak german and so they believed me right
and then I could put it there
I'm looking for it
it was a couple of years ago
this one
no it was removed
really quick because
it wasn't vandalism
because it's removable
but I covered like the most
famous The Kiss
this artwork
and they couldn't leave it there
it was not possible but for me it was
it's about the moment
street art is not about if it's there for a minute or if it's there for 10 years uh it's it's the
moment that counts and it's everything that we have and once i put the artwork on the street it
doesn't belong to me anymore and i don't know what's going to happen with it but while i put it
on it's the only thing that that counts for me there it is
there this one and uh it's a really big one it's i think like two meter no not two meters but one
meter 80 height this poster and i was putting it on and it was really windy and i had some trouble
putting it on and a pair a guy and a girl they were walking by and they asked me should I do
you need help I was like yeah sure and they helped me putting it put it on so I was really I would
that day I was really lucky that I didn't I wasn't stopped and someone came by to help me put it on
and what's it covering it's um it's the it's called the kiss it's uh from the ddr when the
the russian and the chinese president were kissing uh something in in the soviet uh a kiss between
man was like some
showing that
solidarity
like
yes it's the most famous artwork
on the Berlin Wall
cool man
very very cool so if anybody
yeah this
is a very visual one so
if you're listening to the podcast
get over to YouTube and just watch it because
Sider's just scrolling through
the artwork here
it's uh it's very very cool so were you always were you always an artist is this what you've
been you know before you found bitcoin were you in art is that what you've grown up doing
i was always interested in art but i never really had
use for it so when I was growing up I went to art and history class privately I was 10 11 years
then in high school art was my major topic and after this I studied
business and I had my own business 2014 and then my I was about 20 something 22 maybe 23
and of course I had my dream was make a lot of money make millions put them on the bank and live
of the percentage that it grows,
you know, just have a comfortable life.
But once I started making money and earning money,
I learned that it won't work this way.
So I have to figure out something else,
that it's a game that I cannot win
if I play it that way with the fiat system.
And that made me very upset
because my dream just shattered and i was looking for something else and i found bitcoin
and i started learning about bitcoin and really quickly 2015
i realized that it's the only way for for me to achieve my goal of financial freedom so i sold
everything and put all on bitcoin and then i went the altcoin route 2018 when there was this big up
market and i made a really big amount of money uh almost my dream amount or actually it was my dream
amount but once I had this amount then I had to realize what what do I do next and then the real
learning process began the downward spiral of the market the bear market so I learned that I will I
just got lucky and it was not my skill that made me that much money and then I started learning
more and more about Bitcoin because more information popped up over the years and
after around six years daily study I understood that Bitcoin only and I turned away from all the
altcoins for good and then in 2021 i moved to barcelona and barcelona is full of street art
and graffiti and this is also reason why i can create so freely during the day because it's
very accepted until now i never had negative experience with people that saw me doing this
only positive experience people are curious they ask questions and they start taking pictures so
always positive here in Barcelona and yeah the city inspired me to do street art and of course
I wanted to to put all my knowledge that I learned about Bitcoin I did the system administration
classes on Linux to understand Bitcoin.
I did cybersecurity classes by IBM to understand it.
Then I started learning about Lightning And yeah all this knowledge I want to share and i try to give classes private classes but it really really complex and really boring if you explain it like like technical so
i started doing the artworks and instead of explaining someone how bitcoin's technology
makes it
borderless
I can show them
this artwork
and they ask me
what does it mean
and they're already
interested
and then I just
start telling them
and because they're
initially interested
they're also
interested to hear
the answer
so
how
then
like
2015
you said
yeah
was when you
first started
kind of digging around
trying to find Bitcoin
it wasn't easy
yes end of 2015
yeah it wasn't easy to find stuff back in those days no it wasn't easy at all because there was
almost nothing and if there was something that was very very technical i'm not a technical person
also over the last 10 years i learned a lot of technical skills just to understand
this technology better but yeah there was there was almost nothing so i was looking for the next
better bitcoin whereas there's more to understand what it actually is during that time but over the
years of course there there there's so much now that i don't really have to explain anything i
just can make artwork like this and someone who's curious can google it what does it mean and he
he will get the answer she will get the answer especially with the chat gpt and ai it interprets
the artworks very very good so what's now your main focus so you you've got a project
in mind will you have you got another exhibition coming up yes i have one exhibition scheduled
for October 16
here in Barcelona.
It's going to be
at the European
Blockchain Conference
where I am invited
as artist
for the third time.
This year,
it will be the biggest
exhibition I did.
It will be
an eight-meter long wall
where I will present
two new series
one the green bitcoin series and the contrary the bankroll series so on one side i showcase
how bitcoin improves our environment and on the other side i show how our banking system
is destroying not only the economic environment,
but also our earth.
For example, this one is called Greenwash Banker.
It's part of the Bankroll series.
And it's a visual presentation how the banks on media,
they talk about being green and fighting for the environment.
but in reality they fund the very companies
that are destroying our environment.
For the green project,
I haven't uploaded any artworks yet,
but this week I will upload the first one
once it's on the street.
It's already painted.
I finished it yesterday
and the coming days I will put it on the street
and then I will upload it
it's called bioenergy
it's based on
the research
Daniel Batten is sharing
how
Bitcoin mining can make
bio refineries
profitable
and how it can negate
CO2 gas
so I
use really easy
to understand
and iconic pop art figures to raise attention on the street.
So the people, they maybe see this artwork
and they won't really understand what it's about.
They see it's Spider-Man, they see Safety Web,
so it's something related to Spider-Man.
They see the Bitcoin symbol, but it takes time.
It takes time until they will understand it.
For me, once I sold my business
and started learning about Bitcoin, blockchain, lightning,
and all this on a daily basis, what I do until now,
it took me six years until I could understand
the very basis of what this technology is.
So I don't expect anyone to make it click from today or tomorrow.
It takes time.
Yeah, it certainly does.
And the cool thing about this artwork, this style of artwork,
and the stickers that you give out,
it's very approachable for anyone of any age.
Young kids are going to certainly grasp their attention.
Yes, this is for me very important
because I want to inspire the coming generation,
the generation that is born into bitcoin and that for them digital cash won't be something
out of planet earth for today if you tell someone about digital cash they for them it's like a sci-fi
movie even if you most people two-factor authentication for them it's like they're
in a James Bond movie and this is something that the new generation is growing up with this is
normal for them and for them it will be much more easier especially when I put pieces on near high
schools or near schools where no children are walking by i know maybe it'll 10 they take 10
years maybe 15 years but once they reach the certain age bitcoin will feel much more
kind to them they will have they will have a relation to it because they may be stored many
years while walking walking to school or working to study so this is my goal just to plant a seed
and to let let the person go the path organically not force anyone anywhere and are you able to
like fund yourself through through the artwork obviously you're doing the exhibitions that
do they do they sell individual pieces is this how you can uh keep yourself going and
into the future, 10 years down the line?
What do you think it's going to look like?
Yeah, so I'm completely self-funded.
Of course, my early work on Bitcoin
and investing in Bitcoin gives me the cushion.
My artist career is only three years old.
And for me personally, I'm really proud
that I already had my first solo exhibition
because in the classic art world,
many authors have to work for over 10 years
until they get granted a solo exhibition.
So it was a really big success for me.
And at the moment, I put in more than I get out.
But as a businessman, as an entrepreneur,
for me, it's normal.
I know that it won't work from today on tomorrow
and that to build something real takes time.
And thanks to Bitcoin, I am on the long-term time preference.
So Bitcoin always reminds me that I do this not because I have to,
but because I want to share this message
and not because someone needs to know this.
Because for me, Bitcoin already won.
Efficiency beats brute force.
And Bitcoin already won.
And it's just a matter of time until the masses realize it.
And I just do my little part, have fun and share a positive message.
try to reach out to people to help them make the transition into this digital time age and it's it's
it's a little bit similar to the fall of the roman empire so only almost 100 years after the roman
empire fell the masses were aware of it a really long time span um the public didn't even know what
happened behind the curtains because the theater kept going and i think we are in a similar position
where the legacy financial system already failed but the the signal is still being suppressed
and bitcoin already won and we just have to make the best of it have a good time share the message
enjoy the time and it's about the moment just like the street art
how many how many pieces are you making a a week a month a year
i don't know i don't count them but the longer i do this the better i get the faster i get and
the more i produce the more pieces i produce so maybe the first year i had only like 20 or 30
the second year already had over 100 different pieces so it accelerates and this this year uh
i will release um in the next months i will release a new fundraiser this is how i usually
start my projects new designs and i think there will be around 500 different new artworks already
and before I release them to the public,
I always paint them first, put them on the street,
take pictures, document them
and only after this process,
I let people see them and use them for their own projects.
So how do you raise the money through a fundraiser?
Is that on Geyser, for example?
Yes, for example, on Geyser,
I work out the project, like Bonanza one.
It was my first series of seven different designs.
The soldiers, this one, this is the first seven.
And then I just shared the news, I put them on Instagram,
on Twitter, I contact
my network personally
and I offer
the stickers
for
the same price
that I buy them
just
for the same price I produce them
and
usually I collect
around 1200
to 1500 euro
and then I make the production
and send them out worldwide
and I get orders from all over the globe,
all over the globe, from Africa to New Zealand
and everything in between.
And this is only the pieces that I ship out.
And then there are even more people
that print their own stickers, print their own posters,
and I don't even know about it.
Sometimes I just see something, some sticker
or someone sends me something and they ask me,
did you do this and i'm like no i don't know who it was it wasn't me and some stickers popped up
in the airport in qatar someone told me that he saw there so they're just popping up all over the
world and this is why i also try to keep the prices as low as possible and open source the
designs because it's about the message spreading the message and this is also why i stay behind
my art because it doesn't matter who i am because it's about the message i want i want the message
to be in front and i don't think that i do something that anyone else couldn't do if if
they would put in the time especially with the new technology that we have available
so everyone can be an artist everyone can put a sticker somewhere um we also do i also do projects
community projects like here that was the go skate day and where i put my symbol right there
and this was a collaboration with another artist that's an interactive piece so if you scan the qr
code it opens a filter on instagram and it's an augmented reality so the artwork comes to life
the printer starts printing money so you can you can also do it on screen if you have your phone now
or the listeners they can go to youtube and scan the qr code uh this artwork is also in the book
you can also scan it in the book if you would open it what you don't do i'm not opening that
book man yes so uh do different collaborations with different artists this is from also from
ghost gate day
and you see it's a message
don't trust verify it's not
obvious what it is about
only if you start digging
only if you ask
questions so it's more
intended
to fit in
but someone who wants to know more he can
or she can learn more about
what it is actually about
this is
this was
a question with another artist
so it's about
the better future that
we see
with Bitcoin and that Bitcoin
brings us through its
inflation resistance
borderless nature
privacy
and neutral character
and
segregation is a really big topic.
Unfortunately, segregation, financial segregation
is very, very strong everywhere.
I had to deal with it personally, my family also.
And you wouldn't think that in the Western world
we still have financial segregation,
but due to political tensions, everyone can be affected.
Like my mother was affected.
So she was born in Russia and she moved to Germany over 35 years ago.
And I was born there, my siblings were born there
and my parents have a German nationality German passport And last year she wanted to open a bank account in the Sparkasse a German bank and they denied her because of her place of birth
So because she was born in Russia she is not allowed to open a bank account at this bank.
So this is an example of three years ago it wouldn't be a problem.
today we have
political tension and now it's a problem
and you never know
what is going to happen tomorrow
and this is some
kind of certainty
that Bitcoin
grants us
we know that we won't be excluded
we know that
it will be always open for us
for everyone
yeah
100% agree with you
and I hope
people listening that uh that haven't fallen this far into the rabbit hole yet start to understand
the very the very nature of bitcoin and how it how important it is to self-custody your bitcoin
take a loyal title of your bitcoin because if you if you like cyber just said you know anything
can happen tomorrow and all of a sudden the rules change and bam you're locked out of your
crypto exchange whatever it is uh get your coins into your possession do that please
uh mate this is great this has been so cool going through all of this this artwork with you
so people can just get to your uh obviously i'll have the the link uh but those listening or
watching street cyber dot art is that the best place for them to go and see the yes yeah there
they can find the online gallery they can find our do-it-yourself files they can download for free
right yes because you said you open source the design so they can just download for free and get
the stickers printed wherever they're at right if there you can see it here i'm now opening the tab
you can see it says the revolution will be printed and then we have all the different collections
the Bitcoin Squad, the Banditos, the Bonanza 124 collection.
Then we have it as a poster format, and we have it also as a sticker format.
So you see on the sticker format, you see a light blue outline to cut it out, the stickers.
So they have a form.
We have the Revolution Pack that you saw a lot in my gallery in seven different languages.
was also a community project.
We got people from Japan, from Poland, from Italy.
They were all translating the five different designs.
So we have seven different languages.
And this is a new pack.
It's based on a fable, the tortoise and the hare.
Essentially, it's the hare, a rabbit,
challenged the tortoise
to
who can run faster
and the hare
of course accepted
and the hare represents
the current financial system
the inflation, the short
term time vision
and the
turtle
represents Bitcoin long term vision
step by step, slowly
but surely
so
at the start the rabbit went ahead and it was so sure that it will win that it made the break
just to enjoy the the fruits so the fast money and the tortoise was just kept going
and once the the turtle already crossed the finish line the rabbit realized that
he fell asleep and it was
too late for him.
This is really close
to what's happening at the moment
with the financial system.
You can download
the designs. I have
one where you can have
all three pictures as one
design and then you can
also print each separately.
We got
people in France
that own Airbnbs that
put the artworks in there
people in
Austria that
have a restaurant that put their
posters there
cinemas in USA
that put their artworks there
so it's everywhere
everywhere where it can grab some attention public attention or also from private people Very cool
Well, there you go, mate.
I've got one final question for you.
Yes.
If you had one last orange pill to give to somebody,
who would you give it to and why?
I have to think about it.
who would it be
let me think
it would be an artist
maybe Banksy
maybe he is already
orange-pilled
who knows
that would be so cool
the next Banksy
the most recent one at the time of recording
one turned up on the
the royal house of justice or the courts in in the uk of a magistrate beating up like a citizen
yeah and yeah like it gets covered up and removed immediately like the irony of that is just so
wonderful everybody can see what you know what he was trying to prove and they went ahead and
helped him prove it they uh you know the clamp down of uh freedom of speech and the idea that
there is no real uh legal justice and it's all being run by invisible hands uh yeah very very
powerful but if one of his next pieces just does turn up to be like like there's a bitcoin symbol
on it or something like that would just be what a message that would be such validation for what
you've been doing with your work yeah maybe we never know i know uh his name banksy is tied
to a financial crisis that he experienced as child with his father in bristol where he was born and
i read a story that um he went just to the bank and they saw how it was shut down and
that this is where the root of his name, Banksy, comes from.
So it was something that moved him to start doing what he does.
And there are even some artists in this artist space,
in the art community that are interested in Bitcoin,
and they think that Banksy could be Satoshi Nakamoto.
So there's something like this also circulating in the art space.
in a little niche.
And what I find also really interesting,
if you look at the Genesis block,
where it says,
Chancellor on bringing second bail out for banks,
you will see that in the...
Oh, you got a cup.
And that's where we lost him.
right there that's where the whole thing crashed we did get back online but it felt like such a
perfect cliffhanger to leave the whole interview on we decided just to leave it as it was street
cyber was absolutely blown away that he got cut at that last moment that he was about to explain
what was in that genesis block
you're going to have to go look
that's all I can say
it's such a perfect ending
for what he's trying to achieve
to try and pull education out of people
to try and pull thoughts
and musings from people's minds
when they look at his artwork
and yeah
it couldn't have been a much
more perfect way
to end that interview
and if you were watching it
he just disappears off the screen
at that moment
so yep, go check it out
what was he talking about?
what's in the genesis block
that relates to Banksy
anyway, like I said at the beginning here
it was all a bit of a rant
but please guys, take self-custody
very very seriously
do not sell your bitcoin, do not leverage your bitcoin
to Wall Street, do not
hoon
do not ape your pension into bitcoin treasury funds
what's going on right now is absolute insanity.
People are falling into traps, left, right and centre.
And the reason that these traps are being set
is because everybody wants your Bitcoin.
If you're following me on Twitter, I'm doing a daily series.
I call it the I Am Member series.
I going back through my memory banks of articles podcasts interviews talks whatever it is that helped me down the rabbit hole and some of this content may be buried buried buried deep deep
deep beneath all of the books and everything else that's available now so I'm trying to cherry pick
some of the stuff that's very important to people and and tweak that so go follow me on twitter I'm
putting up on Nostra as well links are in the show notes to go go find me there and one of the
well two of the pieces that were very pertinent this weekend one by Bitstein he wrote this back
in 2014 called everyone's a scammer and he means it and so go and read the read the article it's a
brilliant piece it's one of these seminal pieces in the bitcoin space the second piece in 2019
from Parker Lewis is bitcoin not blockchain crypto was absolutely annihilated this weekend
people lost so much money gone i mean he's not coming back it's it's over and the reason is
people have been telling them to diversify into other shit coins whereas like it's our job again
as an influencer that people like to to call us podcasters it's up to us to make sure you're
bitcoin only and you carry on bitcoin only and you stack in the most like uh private manner that
you can and take self-custody. That's it. That's the job. That's all you need to do. That's the
only financial engineering you will ever have to do. Buy and self-custody and hold Bitcoin.
And your life will change. Give it four to eight years. I guarantee you. If you can sit on your
hands for four to eight years, if you can just carry on your life right now, dollar cost average
into Bitcoin and sit on your hands and not sell it and not get shaken out and just keep your
head down, educate yourself, listening to podcasts, reading the articles, reading the books, whatever
it is, take it slowly, one step at a time, join Orange Pill App, find your local events, find your
conferences, get there. But don't sell anything, just keep stacking for four to eight years, then
you'll be in a completely different mindset, you'll be in a completely different place financially,
you'll be able to make completely different decisions, options will open up to you that you
could never ever have imagined and all you have to do like i said it's the only financial
engineering you'll have to do buy and hold it's that simple guys don't collateralize your bitcoin
don't leverage your bitcoin don't trade your bitcoin self-custody it write down your words
don't put your words on a digital computer don't take a picture of them don't do anything like that
it's as simple as it gets it's a pen and a paper like that's it and get on with life
and love your family.
So that's the final bit of influencing.
Make sure you, like I said at the beginning,
it is important to meet people.
Get on Orange Pill App, find out who's close to you,
get along to the local events.
We've got Manchester, Bitcoin Balkans, BTC Japan,
all happy to offer you guys 10% discount
on the ticket purchases.
The links are in the show notes,
So if you can get to one of those events, make sure you get across there.
Paywithflash.com is the place for you to go and start demanding Bitcoin for your goods and services.
Relay across Europe for stacking.
Swan in the US.
And if you want to support plebeian.market, get across there and see where you can start interacting with merchants that are demanding Bitcoin for their goods and services.
There's even a yacht for sale on plebeian.market.
I am not kidding you.
There is a yacht for sale in Bitcoin on plebeian.market.
I did a quick, quick shout out at the very beginning for Andre at Free Madeira.
When I get a new shout out, it all gets crazy and mixed up and it takes me a few efforts to get it all in the right spot.
But Basalto Fund, based out of Madeira, part of the Free Madeira project, Andre came on.
You can go back and listen to his episode and we talk about that fund.
it's particularly interesting if you're looking for a like a citizen residency and finally a
passport and the fund has been set up to be able to invest into bitcoin directly and into bitcoin
companies via ego death and you have nidig part of this fund as well so andre's really taking the
time to curate this this plan it's worth listening to the episode and reaching out to him if you'd
like to learn any more about it so like i said i'll get better with that shout out as time progresses
i really appreciate all you guys listening thank you so much stack safe take care catch on the next