1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,840 Hello, everybody. My name is Daniel Prince, and I'm the host of the Once Bitten podcast. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,560 This is a podcast focused on Bitcoin. It's my mission to interview as many people as I can 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:24,540 around the different aspects of Bitcoin and help people understand exactly what Bitcoin could mean 4 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:29,560 for them and for their families and for their future. I hope you enjoy the show. Thank you so 5 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,520 much for listening. Hello everybody, welcome to this episode of the Once Bitten podcast. Joining 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:42,520 me today is Street Saiba, a street artist who has a focus on educating as many people as he possibly 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:51,480 can with his artwork which he pastes around cities all over the world. He's mainly based in Spain 8 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:58,920 and he has been invited to showcase his work at some very high-end, mainstream, very well-known 9 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,140 art galleries which is really interesting to see that this kind of work is getting picked up 10 00:01:04,140 --> 00:01:10,460 by the mainstream and if you want to watch this I would recommend you watch it I have already 11 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:15,860 pre-released this one on YouTube because Street Cyber just has a full gallery of his artwork up 12 00:01:15,860 --> 00:01:22,020 it's free it's free for everybody to see and he wants people to see it he wants people to download 13 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:28,320 the free pdfs make stickers from it make posters get out there and put them up the artwork you know 14 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:34,940 the ones that resonate with you or hand them out as stickers at conferences or wherever uh so this 15 00:01:34,940 --> 00:01:41,120 is like the bitcoin ethos and it's free up on youtube if you're listening on fountain app you 16 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:47,520 can now stop this and watch the video uh it's not just audio now on fountain app you have audio and 17 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:54,800 video on the mobile fountain app please download it and listen on fountain get off spotify get off 18 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:01,220 Apple, get yourself as a Bitcoiner across onto the parallel system. And that is using the tools 19 00:02:01,220 --> 00:02:06,500 that are being built by Bitcoiners. And especially in this case, where you can watch the artwork as we 20 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:11,660 talk through his story, we go through the whole usual arc, the rabbit hole story, what got him 21 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:15,760 into art and all this kind of stuff. But the whole time, he's just scrolling through some of the 22 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:21,180 pieces. And then we delve into some of the pieces and what they mean to him and why he was inspired 23 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:27,180 to make them and where he's put them in the world so i really appreciate this one and it's very 24 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:33,080 timely that this should get released after the little flash crash that we had over the weekend 25 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:41,460 now i apologize because apparently i'm a bitcoin influencer people like to call and point fingers 26 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:47,320 at podcasters and call them influencers well i've got to be the shittest influencer in the world 27 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,420 if all I'm trying to get you guys to do is stack sats, 28 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:54,680 dollar cost average, do not get over your skis, 29 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:57,900 do not leverage, buy in the most private manner 30 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:00,000 that you possibly can that's available to you, 31 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,080 take self-custody, don't trade, don't leverage, 32 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,200 and live your life. 33 00:03:05,460 --> 00:03:07,540 Many of you might have sold your Bitcoin. 34 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:09,560 Many of you might have lost your Bitcoin. 35 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:11,400 Many of you might have had your Bitcoin 36 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,500 rugged from exchanges or from poor security measures. 37 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:17,060 I'm clearly doing a bad job. 38 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:23,600 So here are the tools. Relay across Europe. R-E-L-A-I dot C-H. You can stack sats with Relay. 39 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:29,240 Set up your dollar cost average. If you're in the US, you can use swanbitcoin.com forward slash Bitten. 40 00:03:29,740 --> 00:03:38,840 There is, by the way, some news coming out from Swan. So if you are this side of the pond, keep a keen ear to the podcast. 41 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:47,060 Self custody with Bitbox. Bitbox.swiss forward slash Bitten. You can use the code Bitten and get a 5% discount. 42 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:49,720 All of these tools are here and you can get the discount. 43 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:56,060 If you want to go out and meet Bitcoiners face-to-face and set up your own little peer-to-peer trading, that's brilliant. 44 00:03:56,340 --> 00:03:56,800 Do that. 45 00:03:57,060 --> 00:03:58,780 Vexel is there for you. 46 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,420 You can just download the Vexel app and start that. 47 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:03,160 That's a completely unofficial shill. 48 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,500 I want you to go and learn how to trade peer-to-peer. 49 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:09,380 Or even better, download the Orange Pill app. 50 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,700 Orange Pill app has 19,000 Bitcoiners around the world ready to connect with you. 51 00:04:14,700 --> 00:04:20,520 and you can bet your bottom dollar that you'll be able to start setting up little peer-to-peer 52 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:28,580 trading groups locally to you in your community. PayWithFlash.com is the way that you can start 53 00:04:28,580 --> 00:04:35,580 accepting Bitcoin. In fact, demanding Bitcoin for your goods and services. Don't accept Bitcoin for 54 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:42,040 your goods and services. Demand it. I want to be paid in Bitcoin. Why would you want to be paid in 55 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,560 fiat. You as the merchant, if you're accepting Bitcoin now, you have the power. I want the better 56 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,840 money. And if you get the pushback, well, I don't know how to do that, blah, blah, blah. Of course, 57 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,300 you're going to get that. Education is out there. There's no excuses anymore. This is what this 58 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:03,600 episode is about. Education. And the number go up is the number of people that goes up every day. 59 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,380 More people join the network than the day before. That is the only metric that matters. Stop looking 60 00:05:09,380 --> 00:05:14,820 at the dollar signs number of people in bitcoin go up and on that note get out there and meet 61 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:19,560 bitcoiners get to a conference we've got some coming up in october you have the bitcoin balkans 62 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:27,520 in sofia and you have manchester 21st to the 23rd of november and you also have btc japan in tokyo 63 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,820 links in the show notes with discounts finally uh basalto fund this is a quick shout out for my 64 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:42,860 friend andre loja over at the free madeira project he came on episode number 553 i think it was go 65 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:49,720 check that out and learn about the basalto fund where you can get a second passport if this is 66 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:56,780 what you're looking to do meanwhile sit back relax enjoy this one with street cyber all right street 67 00:05:56,780 --> 00:06:02,440 cyber we are recording great to have you on the show thank you for coming on hi thank you daniel 68 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,300 right Lauren 69 00:06:04,300 --> 00:06:07,200 thank you 70 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,860 Lauren is going to ask you the first question 71 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:10,960 and you came prepared 72 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,980 what does art 73 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:15,160 mean to you 74 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 for me 75 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,780 personally it means 76 00:06:19,780 --> 00:06:22,040 to raise my 77 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,760 voice and 78 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,080 to make my 79 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,180 thoughts and emotions 80 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:29,320 visible 81 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,960 to the public 82 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:39,600 amazing yeah I see I see the art here and it looks pretty cool yeah so for those of you watching on 83 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:47,400 YouTube Cyber has got some of his gallery some of his work up and just scrolling through so if you 84 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,780 do want to switch over to to YouTube or actually hopefully the fountain app now has video enabled 85 00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:59,320 and you'll be able to see more of the artwork there as well but I've seen these stickers at 86 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:06,880 the Cypher Monk house in Bloomsbury. I've seen them all over as well. And I did purchase, 87 00:07:07,420 --> 00:07:12,820 thank you for the stickers you sent. So this is a packet of the stickers that you sent over 88 00:07:12,820 --> 00:07:19,000 of your artwork. Here is the book I purchased, The Art of Revolution. And I've got number 89 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:29,220 71 out of 100. And you sent that out on block 859-763, 859-763. It's still in the packaging. 90 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:37,880 cyber i'm not opening it i've decided after i even tweeted i did tweet uh should i open it 91 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:46,040 did you see yes i've and then i had a chat with uh asanoa who's now started the 92 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,640 bitcoin art magazine and he saw my tweet and he said don't open that man like what are you 93 00:07:51,640 --> 00:08:00,600 i was already leaning that way so it is completely still in its wrapping that's how it's gonna stay 94 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,100 and that goes with the rest of my bitcoin memorabilia and there are even stickers in 95 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:11,000 there as well i was gonna say i nearly opened the sticker packet earlier yeah lauren lauren came in 96 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:17,080 and she saw the sticker packet and she was just about to tear it over i want to keep i want to 97 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:23,460 keep those sealed as well yeah um not as special because you know it's not the book but but still 98 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:31,660 it's it's something very very unique uh so why why then lauren do you think i mean i did explain 99 00:08:31,660 --> 00:08:37,540 it to you earlier what would you have opened the the book and no i wouldn't have opened the book 100 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:41,820 i would have opened the stickers you'd have opened the sticks but right okay but why would you not 101 00:08:41,820 --> 00:08:48,960 have opened the book then because it's only 71 out of 100 so it's scarce so that means in the future 102 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:59,460 it would be um uh more value more valued yeah uh it will become more well there'll be more bitcoiners 103 00:08:59,460 --> 00:09:06,000 uh so that means there'll be more people more demand more interest and yeah you're right there's 104 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:15,000 only 100 copies and we got number 71 how many left cyber uh i think for right now number 72 105 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:25,020 and number 73 have been also sold so just a few more left uh that are signed and numbered 106 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:33,060 so it's definitely a collector's item and all the all the works that are inside the book you can 107 00:09:33,060 --> 00:09:37,460 I also see them in my online gallery and also my social media. 108 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,360 So it's not a secret what's inside. 109 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,680 But yeah, it was intended to be more like a collector's item, something that you hodl. 110 00:09:47,460 --> 00:09:47,820 Yes. 111 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:51,500 Well, and how much are you charging for the book? 112 00:09:51,620 --> 00:09:58,520 So those listening that are interested and might want to hurry up and get themselves a copy, get to the website. 113 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:09,820 is at 60 euro and it's signed and numbered and has a blog time on it and it's called the art of 114 00:10:09,820 --> 00:10:17,680 revolution because it's part of my first exhibition art exhibition that i had that was also called the 115 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:25,020 art of revolution which i showed the picture earlier so where was that exhibition can you tell 116 00:10:25,020 --> 00:10:36,540 about that yeah it was at the art vistas gallery in barcelona uh it's a very famous painter was born 117 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:46,860 in the very same building uh juan miró it's the name uh he's on one level with picasso but not so 118 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:54,060 famous worldwide but very famous in spain because they're from the same time so it was a really 119 00:10:54,060 --> 00:11:02,880 great honor for me to be able to do my first exhibition inside the art gallery and you can 120 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:10,160 see here a picture it was were more than 300 pieces exhibited for over a month i think five 121 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:20,620 weeks of the exhibition and many people from just walking by and interested in art just walked in 122 00:11:20,620 --> 00:11:25,360 and could learn something about our financial system and about Bitcoin. 123 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,000 That's awesome. 124 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:34,000 So just to clarify, I think a lot of Bitcoiners, they're used to now seeing, 125 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:37,120 and it depends on the conference, but if you go to a conference, 126 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:50,085 there might be a small art section or in some cases it could be a great big art section It always great fun to go and walk around and look at the different pieces of art But yours was in a Normie museum 127 00:11:50,525 --> 00:11:58,125 very, very famous, ran for five weeks. And it was all about Bitcoin and the state of the 128 00:11:58,125 --> 00:12:03,725 monetary system and trying to get people to think differently about it. So what kind of feedback did 129 00:12:03,725 --> 00:12:11,245 you get from the curators of who even approached you to to do that in the first place or did you 130 00:12:11,245 --> 00:12:21,645 approach them i did approach them i approached the the the gallerist and she was interested and even 131 00:12:21,645 --> 00:12:29,605 like six seven years ago she told me she tried to accept bitcoin as payment for her art online which 132 00:12:29,605 --> 00:12:31,245 she already does now. 133 00:12:31,465 --> 00:12:33,405 I helped her set up everything 134 00:12:33,405 --> 00:12:36,425 so you can buy all the different artworks 135 00:12:36,425 --> 00:12:39,605 from all different artists 136 00:12:39,605 --> 00:12:42,845 and pay with Bitcoin in this art gallery. 137 00:12:43,645 --> 00:12:44,825 And she was interested, 138 00:12:44,985 --> 00:12:49,465 but she told me nobody actually ever paid her in Bitcoin back then. 139 00:12:50,505 --> 00:12:53,845 And first, she didn't really... 140 00:12:53,845 --> 00:12:56,825 She told me the gallery is full, they have no space, 141 00:12:56,825 --> 00:13:05,545 but after a little talk she was really interested and allowed me to bring a couple artworks 142 00:13:05,545 --> 00:13:16,505 and they sold very quickly so I approached her to do this art exhibition and yeah this 143 00:13:16,505 --> 00:13:24,765 how it led from one point to another and what she told me what was what she was very surprised 144 00:13:24,765 --> 00:13:32,245 when she started offering my art in her gallery um people different people started showing up so 145 00:13:32,245 --> 00:13:38,705 people in suits more like from the financial world people started coming in uh something that didn't 146 00:13:38,705 --> 00:13:47,285 happen before in this art gallery and um during the opening of this art exhibition there were a lot of 147 00:13:47,285 --> 00:13:53,705 artists attending from other galleries because they were really curious they asked me questions 148 00:13:53,705 --> 00:14:00,925 some were confused they didn't know if this artworks are pro bitcoin or against bitcoin 149 00:14:00,925 --> 00:14:10,005 so they asked me about it and the whole point is to raise questions i don't want an artwork to be 150 00:14:10,005 --> 00:14:17,725 obvious like very obvious from the first side because i want people to ask questions because 151 00:14:17,725 --> 00:14:24,385 artwork it doesn't start an argument it starts a question and this is a good entry point 152 00:14:24,385 --> 00:14:32,745 for complex topics like money so let's scroll through a few and then lauren you 153 00:14:32,745 --> 00:14:38,305 when you see one that catches your eye we can talk about it 154 00:14:38,305 --> 00:14:47,925 i was gonna say the balloon one yeah okay yeah just stop there go up again on the left it's the 155 00:14:47,925 --> 00:14:56,745 the banksy girl isn't it yes yes uh-huh so um where have you seen that painting before just 156 00:14:56,745 --> 00:15:04,705 online or just online yeah everywhere some bitcoin t-shirts yeah yeah so very famous picture 157 00:15:04,705 --> 00:15:11,805 Can you give us the history of that picture and then what, you know, the inspiration you took and how you changed it? 158 00:15:12,805 --> 00:15:17,485 Yes, the original artwork is by Banksy. 159 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:19,205 I'm not sure of the name. 160 00:15:19,365 --> 00:15:22,725 It's this Wind Girl or Windy Girl. 161 00:15:23,425 --> 00:15:29,645 And there are different also iterations, one with the life saving ring on the boat and one with the balloon. 162 00:15:30,785 --> 00:15:33,885 And I created my own iteration. 163 00:15:34,705 --> 00:15:38,365 This is just some spot on the street that I really like 164 00:15:38,365 --> 00:15:41,645 because of all those tags on the back. 165 00:15:41,645 --> 00:15:46,585 And it gives like this chaotic atmosphere. 166 00:15:47,485 --> 00:15:50,405 And with the girl and the balloon inside, 167 00:15:51,185 --> 00:15:54,365 my eyes, it shows some more clarity. 168 00:15:55,885 --> 00:15:59,325 And how would you, Laurie, interpret? 169 00:16:00,205 --> 00:16:01,085 What do you think? 170 00:16:01,165 --> 00:16:03,505 What is the meaning of this piece? 171 00:16:04,705 --> 00:16:08,685 I don't know. 172 00:16:08,925 --> 00:16:12,565 It could be Bitcoin is just out of reach for her 173 00:16:12,565 --> 00:16:14,565 or it could be... 174 00:16:17,565 --> 00:16:23,045 Yes, maybe she's missing an opportunity. 175 00:16:25,425 --> 00:16:27,225 Do you have other thoughts? 176 00:16:30,465 --> 00:16:31,385 I don't know. 177 00:16:31,485 --> 00:16:32,725 Someone's stealing it. 178 00:16:32,865 --> 00:16:34,105 The wind is stealing it. 179 00:16:34,105 --> 00:16:42,185 but it could be like i don't know yeah there there is no no wrong answer that's the point you 180 00:16:42,185 --> 00:16:48,225 know every person can look at it and can have another feeling about it and there's nothing like 181 00:16:48,225 --> 00:16:54,165 right or wrong about your interpretation because interpretation because it's a personal something 182 00:16:54,165 --> 00:17:02,905 personal personal connection that each person um makes for from it's called uh bitcoin is freedom 183 00:17:02,905 --> 00:17:10,105 so maybe she lets the balloon free and it goes with the wind and it's like a free financial system 184 00:17:10,105 --> 00:17:15,985 this is another site where you could interpret it but like i said there is not really a right 185 00:17:15,985 --> 00:17:21,445 wrong way to see this so i've been whilst you guys have been chatting i've got a little bit 186 00:17:21,445 --> 00:17:28,525 of background on the actual original piece uh it's called girl with balloon and uh girl with 187 00:17:28,525 --> 00:17:35,405 balloon is a series of stencil murals around london by the graffiti artist bank c started in 2002 188 00:17:35,405 --> 00:17:41,625 they depict a young girl with her hand extended toward a red heart-shaped balloon carried away 189 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:48,465 by the wind uh okay so there were several iterations of this um none of them apparently 190 00:17:48,465 --> 00:17:55,945 still stand but do you remember lauren uh that you might never have seen this in 2018 191 00:17:55,945 --> 00:18:04,425 a framed copy of the work shredded yes a framed copy of the work was shredded after being sold at 192 00:18:04,425 --> 00:18:08,445 auction by way that by way of a mechanical device banksy had hidden inside the frame 193 00:18:08,445 --> 00:18:13,125 banksy confirmed that he was responsible for the shredding and gave the altered piece a new name 194 00:18:13,125 --> 00:18:19,825 love is in the bin sotheby's said it was the first work in history ever created during a live auction 195 00:18:19,825 --> 00:18:25,825 so because it was sold for even more well yeah because it became a new piece of art 196 00:18:25,825 --> 00:18:33,525 as soon as it was shredded it was something else uh and right and it also got stuck in the middle 197 00:18:33,525 --> 00:18:41,585 so it only shredded to the uh to the half so half of it is still in the frame and the other half is 198 00:18:41,585 --> 00:18:47,565 like dangling down there uh which is shredded because it got stuck in the middle of the shredding 199 00:18:47,565 --> 00:18:50,905 I wonder where or how much that is now 200 00:18:50,905 --> 00:18:52,785 2.8 million 201 00:18:52,785 --> 00:18:54,465 wow 202 00:18:54,465 --> 00:18:56,945 like this book will be 203 00:18:56,945 --> 00:18:57,345 one day 204 00:18:57,345 --> 00:19:00,905 oh you mean 205 00:19:00,905 --> 00:19:01,645 the shredded one 206 00:19:01,645 --> 00:19:05,805 the anonymous street artist 207 00:19:05,805 --> 00:19:08,665 half shredded 208 00:19:08,665 --> 00:19:10,425 so 2021 209 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:12,345 there it is half shredded 210 00:19:12,345 --> 00:19:13,705 so you still got the balloon 211 00:19:13,705 --> 00:19:15,285 in 2021 212 00:19:15,285 --> 00:19:22,825 2021 it was sold for 1.1 million now being sold for record 16 million despite only being expected 213 00:19:22,825 --> 00:19:27,885 to fetch close to six girl with balloon so yeah wow 214 00:19:27,885 --> 00:19:38,025 unbelievable and you changed it into a uh a piece of bitcoin up love it yes banksy was my 215 00:19:38,025 --> 00:19:39,985 first inspiration 216 00:19:39,985 --> 00:19:41,865 this is how I started I took his 217 00:19:41,865 --> 00:19:44,005 pieces and 218 00:19:44,005 --> 00:19:45,865 changed them to have 219 00:19:45,865 --> 00:19:47,525 a message about Bitcoin 220 00:19:47,525 --> 00:19:49,725 and from there on 221 00:19:49,725 --> 00:19:52,125 I started creating 222 00:19:52,125 --> 00:19:54,125 my own pieces 223 00:19:54,125 --> 00:19:56,005 and now 224 00:19:56,005 --> 00:19:57,945 it's the 225 00:19:57,945 --> 00:20:00,005 first series they created was purely 226 00:20:00,005 --> 00:20:02,305 based on the works from Banksy 227 00:20:02,305 --> 00:20:03,865 and now they're 228 00:20:03,865 --> 00:20:04,845 my own 229 00:20:04,845 --> 00:20:07,765 and this is something that 230 00:20:07,765 --> 00:20:14,005 I think is intended by the artist Banksy and there are many many hundreds and maybe even 231 00:20:14,005 --> 00:20:22,945 thousands of artists that do it exactly the same they use the really simple designs by Banksy to 232 00:20:22,945 --> 00:20:30,745 get a starting point and from there on they work towards their own characteristic style 233 00:20:30,745 --> 00:20:40,205 and it's in the stencil monochromatic high contrast black and white style but every artist 234 00:20:40,205 --> 00:20:44,705 has it's a little bit different so when you look at different artists that 235 00:20:44,705 --> 00:20:50,525 do the stencil style you can you start seeing all the differences between them 236 00:20:50,525 --> 00:20:57,885 mostly um i think one of one of my favorite ones is the is it the guy throwing a molotov cocktail 237 00:20:57,885 --> 00:21:12,745 or something yes where's that one sure yeah bitcoin is that that one so instead of the 238 00:21:12,745 --> 00:21:19,165 molotov cocktail yeah you go it looks like bitcoin sunflowers or bitcoin there's a bunch 239 00:21:19,165 --> 00:21:24,485 of flowers with bitcoin that's what it says to me anyway like the guy's holding a bunch of flowers 240 00:21:24,485 --> 00:21:29,785 which is obviously an offering of peace or love 241 00:21:29,785 --> 00:21:31,465 rather than the Molotov cocktail 242 00:21:31,465 --> 00:21:35,345 which was designed to hurt. 243 00:21:37,285 --> 00:21:39,405 Right, also if you're on the gallery 244 00:21:39,405 --> 00:21:42,565 and you click on the information button 245 00:21:42,565 --> 00:21:47,105 you get some info here. 246 00:21:49,865 --> 00:21:53,425 So it's like you said, it's more neutral 247 00:21:53,425 --> 00:21:55,225 with the 248 00:21:55,225 --> 00:21:57,445 flowers 249 00:21:57,445 --> 00:21:58,965 and the Molotov cocktail. 250 00:22:01,925 --> 00:22:03,205 Yeah, it's very cool. 251 00:22:04,305 --> 00:22:05,665 Iconic piece of artwork. 252 00:22:06,985 --> 00:22:07,765 So Lauren, 253 00:22:07,825 --> 00:22:09,725 any further questions whilst we're looking 254 00:22:09,725 --> 00:22:10,585 at the artwork? 255 00:22:12,205 --> 00:22:13,545 Yeah, what is 256 00:22:13,545 --> 00:22:15,625 do you have a 257 00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:17,805 favourite piece of art that you've made yourself 258 00:22:17,805 --> 00:22:19,725 or are they all kind of like 259 00:22:19,725 --> 00:22:20,445 your favourite? 260 00:22:22,685 --> 00:22:23,285 Yeah, 261 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:30,865 a good question i like all of them because it's for me it's about the message they portray i always 262 00:22:31,425 --> 00:22:42,225 want to give the viewer some feeling of empowerment and reach some emotion and for me it's always 263 00:22:42,225 --> 00:22:48,545 about the next artwork that i will put on the street so my favorite artwork is always the one 264 00:22:48,545 --> 00:22:58,545 that I will do next. So you think up the piece of art, you design it and then what? How do you get 265 00:22:58,545 --> 00:23:06,305 it onto the street? Are you going out at like 2am in the morning with a mop and paste and getting it 266 00:23:06,305 --> 00:23:12,705 out? Do you have a specific target? Is everywhere something different? How does that thought process 267 00:23:12,705 --> 00:23:13,205 Let's go for you. 268 00:23:15,945 --> 00:23:19,945 So I do this during the day. 269 00:23:19,945 --> 00:23:31,331 I like to hide in the light And so I did it in many capitals 270 00:23:31,331 --> 00:23:34,951 like Paris, London, Berlin, 271 00:23:35,731 --> 00:23:37,591 and many other cities. 272 00:23:37,831 --> 00:23:39,371 And this picture is from New York. 273 00:23:40,331 --> 00:23:45,331 And because it's not a permanent installation, 274 00:23:46,271 --> 00:23:50,271 because I paid first, I get an idea, 275 00:23:50,271 --> 00:23:53,771 then I designed the image on my computer, 276 00:23:54,051 --> 00:23:57,910 then I painted on paper with acrylic paint, 277 00:23:58,811 --> 00:24:00,111 and then I cut it out. 278 00:24:00,891 --> 00:24:04,831 And either I already scouted the place before, 279 00:24:05,011 --> 00:24:07,531 so I saw some place and thought, 280 00:24:07,691 --> 00:24:09,910 oh, okay, I want to put an artwork here, 281 00:24:10,170 --> 00:24:12,150 or I do it more spontaneously. 282 00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:15,131 I just take them with me, go outside, 283 00:24:15,311 --> 00:24:18,031 and look for places that fit. 284 00:24:18,031 --> 00:24:26,311 I always try to put it somewhere where it seems to fit in. 285 00:24:26,491 --> 00:24:39,251 For example, let's say, usually, like this one, 286 00:24:39,391 --> 00:24:42,331 I choose high traffic areas, 287 00:24:42,670 --> 00:24:47,291 or I choose areas where it's more on topic, 288 00:24:47,291 --> 00:24:49,091 like here for example 289 00:24:49,091 --> 00:24:52,551 on the 290 00:24:52,551 --> 00:24:55,251 library 291 00:24:55,251 --> 00:24:56,491 and 292 00:24:56,491 --> 00:24:58,231 which I 293 00:24:58,231 --> 00:25:01,271 after putting this artwork there 294 00:25:01,271 --> 00:25:03,331 and after like two weeks 295 00:25:03,331 --> 00:25:05,151 I came back to see it 296 00:25:05,151 --> 00:25:07,410 and the graffiti on the side 297 00:25:07,410 --> 00:25:08,910 it was removed 298 00:25:08,910 --> 00:25:10,971 but they left 299 00:25:10,971 --> 00:25:12,711 the artwork, my artwork 300 00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:14,531 yes 301 00:25:14,531 --> 00:25:16,691 and they liked it 302 00:25:16,691 --> 00:25:22,011 down if it's just but how do you stick it there because it's just paper i put it wallpaper glue 303 00:25:22,011 --> 00:25:32,231 yeah for uh windley wallpaper so it sticks there very well some some pieces they stay for many 304 00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:39,691 years two three four years especially if i put them higher up where like someone who's passing 305 00:25:39,691 --> 00:25:47,611 by cannot just rip it off then they can stay there also for for more than 10 years and sometimes 306 00:25:47,611 --> 00:25:54,410 something like this happens where the the building um every building has someone who takes care of it 307 00:25:54,410 --> 00:26:00,871 and sometimes they see an artwork and they say okay we like it we just stay we just leave it 308 00:26:00,871 --> 00:26:07,291 there because it's on topic and this happened uh with this library they they just left the artwork 309 00:26:07,291 --> 00:26:13,031 my artwork but they removed the graffiti on the right side so you got really graffiti and left 310 00:26:13,031 --> 00:26:20,771 that so the paperwork is is it kind of special paper that uh is like water resistant no it's 311 00:26:20,771 --> 00:26:31,531 regular paper uh the color the paint it's water resistant once it's dry but um sometimes when 312 00:26:31,531 --> 00:26:38,731 artwork is like there for a year and it was raining a lot then their corner can start coming 313 00:26:38,731 --> 00:26:44,451 off but it's part of the process so the artwork it never stays the same once you put it on the 314 00:26:44,451 --> 00:26:51,551 street it starts living its own life someone comes by paints over the bitcoin you know someone painted 315 00:26:51,551 --> 00:26:56,551 like the black color over the bitcoin but it's still shining through so he changed it someone 316 00:26:56,551 --> 00:27:04,371 ripped off a little bit of the shoulder someone else is drawing something next to it you know 317 00:27:04,371 --> 00:27:10,391 so there's always something happening and it's never the same every time i come visit an artwork 318 00:27:10,391 --> 00:27:16,211 it always looks different and this is part of the of the community life everyone has something to say 319 00:27:16,211 --> 00:27:24,971 and everyone has the right to do it wow so would that be just one piece that you do you have a lot 320 00:27:24,971 --> 00:27:29,251 of those over in different cities or when you put one up it's just one piece it's unique 321 00:27:29,251 --> 00:27:38,151 uh when once when i started uh i did a lot of the same pieces for example 322 00:27:38,151 --> 00:27:46,751 the soldiers i did i think almost in every major city in paris this is in paris and 323 00:27:46,751 --> 00:27:53,411 forum the house like in the city center i put the soldiers on the berlin wall 324 00:27:53,411 --> 00:28:00,011 which i did at night it was the only one only thing that i really did at night 325 00:28:00,011 --> 00:28:10,211 because i covered like the most famous artwork on the berlin wall and i also got stopped by security 326 00:28:10,211 --> 00:28:18,711 um what did they say they i i was putting on the glue and then there were like two or three 327 00:28:18,711 --> 00:28:24,430 security people there and they asked me what i'm doing and because i'm from berlin so i speak 328 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:32,411 the same dialect so i could just explain them i'm an artist i just do my job and they were like okay 329 00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:39,430 but i think it was because i i speak german and so they believed me right 330 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:41,791 and then I could put it there 331 00:28:41,791 --> 00:28:42,991 I'm looking for it 332 00:28:42,991 --> 00:28:45,071 it was a couple of years ago 333 00:28:45,071 --> 00:28:46,670 this one 334 00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:49,451 no it was removed 335 00:28:49,451 --> 00:28:51,151 really quick because 336 00:28:51,151 --> 00:28:53,771 it wasn't vandalism 337 00:28:53,771 --> 00:28:55,131 because it's removable 338 00:28:55,131 --> 00:28:57,731 but I covered like the most 339 00:28:57,731 --> 00:28:59,511 famous The Kiss 340 00:28:59,511 --> 00:29:00,991 this artwork 341 00:29:00,991 --> 00:29:03,551 and they couldn't leave it there 342 00:29:03,551 --> 00:29:05,751 it was not possible but for me it was 343 00:29:05,751 --> 00:29:08,091 it's about the moment 344 00:29:08,091 --> 00:29:09,311 it's about the moment 345 00:29:09,311 --> 00:29:16,831 street art is not about if it's there for a minute or if it's there for 10 years uh it's it's the 346 00:29:16,831 --> 00:29:21,271 moment that counts and it's everything that we have and once i put the artwork on the street it 347 00:29:21,271 --> 00:29:28,211 doesn't belong to me anymore and i don't know what's going to happen with it but while i put it 348 00:29:28,211 --> 00:29:34,611 on it's the only thing that that counts for me there it is 349 00:29:34,611 --> 00:29:45,031 there this one and uh it's a really big one it's i think like two meter no not two meters but one 350 00:29:45,031 --> 00:29:52,551 meter 80 height this poster and i was putting it on and it was really windy and i had some trouble 351 00:29:52,551 --> 00:30:00,170 putting it on and a pair a guy and a girl they were walking by and they asked me should I do 352 00:30:00,170 --> 00:30:06,331 you need help I was like yeah sure and they helped me putting it put it on so I was really I would 353 00:30:06,331 --> 00:30:12,251 that day I was really lucky that I didn't I wasn't stopped and someone came by to help me put it on 354 00:30:12,251 --> 00:30:23,591 and what's it covering it's um it's the it's called the kiss it's uh from the ddr when the 355 00:30:23,591 --> 00:30:32,571 the russian and the chinese president were kissing uh something in in the soviet uh a kiss between 356 00:30:32,571 --> 00:30:34,371 man was like some 357 00:30:34,371 --> 00:30:36,251 showing that 358 00:30:36,251 --> 00:30:37,571 solidarity 359 00:30:37,571 --> 00:30:39,051 like 360 00:30:39,051 --> 00:30:42,631 yes it's the most famous artwork 361 00:30:42,631 --> 00:30:44,551 on the Berlin Wall 362 00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:48,291 cool man 363 00:30:48,291 --> 00:30:50,591 very very cool so if anybody 364 00:30:50,591 --> 00:30:52,231 yeah this 365 00:30:52,231 --> 00:30:54,151 is a very visual one so 366 00:30:54,151 --> 00:30:55,811 if you're listening to the podcast 367 00:30:55,811 --> 00:30:58,311 get over to YouTube and just watch it because 368 00:30:58,311 --> 00:31:00,551 Sider's just scrolling through 369 00:31:00,551 --> 00:31:02,291 the artwork here 370 00:31:02,291 --> 00:31:08,051 it's uh it's very very cool so were you always were you always an artist is this what you've 371 00:31:08,051 --> 00:31:15,511 been you know before you found bitcoin were you in art is that what you've grown up doing 372 00:31:15,511 --> 00:31:22,451 i was always interested in art but i never really had 373 00:31:22,451 --> 00:31:35,291 use for it so when I was growing up I went to art and history class privately I was 10 11 years 374 00:31:35,291 --> 00:31:42,851 then in high school art was my major topic and after this I studied 375 00:31:42,851 --> 00:31:58,671 business and I had my own business 2014 and then my I was about 20 something 22 maybe 23 376 00:31:58,671 --> 00:32:06,371 and of course I had my dream was make a lot of money make millions put them on the bank and live 377 00:32:06,371 --> 00:32:12,551 of the percentage that it grows, 378 00:32:13,271 --> 00:32:15,251 you know, just have a comfortable life. 379 00:32:15,871 --> 00:32:19,711 But once I started making money and earning money, 380 00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:23,591 I learned that it won't work this way. 381 00:32:24,131 --> 00:32:25,991 So I have to figure out something else, 382 00:32:26,091 --> 00:32:27,831 that it's a game that I cannot win 383 00:32:27,831 --> 00:32:31,111 if I play it that way with the fiat system. 384 00:32:32,031 --> 00:32:35,451 And that made me very upset 385 00:32:35,451 --> 00:32:42,171 because my dream just shattered and i was looking for something else and i found bitcoin 386 00:32:42,171 --> 00:32:46,371 and i started learning about bitcoin and really quickly 2015 387 00:32:46,371 --> 00:32:56,071 i realized that it's the only way for for me to achieve my goal of financial freedom so i sold 388 00:32:56,071 --> 00:33:06,591 everything and put all on bitcoin and then i went the altcoin route 2018 when there was this big up 389 00:33:06,591 --> 00:33:18,331 market and i made a really big amount of money uh almost my dream amount or actually it was my dream 390 00:33:18,331 --> 00:33:27,451 amount but once I had this amount then I had to realize what what do I do next and then the real 391 00:33:27,451 --> 00:33:37,091 learning process began the downward spiral of the market the bear market so I learned that I will I 392 00:33:37,091 --> 00:33:48,531 just got lucky and it was not my skill that made me that much money and then I started learning 393 00:33:48,531 --> 00:33:54,151 more and more about Bitcoin because more information popped up over the years and 394 00:33:54,151 --> 00:34:04,291 after around six years daily study I understood that Bitcoin only and I turned away from all the 395 00:34:04,291 --> 00:34:15,271 altcoins for good and then in 2021 i moved to barcelona and barcelona is full of street art 396 00:34:15,271 --> 00:34:21,530 and graffiti and this is also reason why i can create so freely during the day because it's 397 00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:29,131 very accepted until now i never had negative experience with people that saw me doing this 398 00:34:29,131 --> 00:34:37,991 only positive experience people are curious they ask questions and they start taking pictures so 399 00:34:37,991 --> 00:34:47,891 always positive here in Barcelona and yeah the city inspired me to do street art and of course 400 00:34:47,891 --> 00:34:54,550 I wanted to to put all my knowledge that I learned about Bitcoin I did the system administration 401 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:58,550 classes on Linux to understand Bitcoin. 402 00:34:58,550 --> 00:35:02,550 I did cybersecurity classes by IBM to understand it. 403 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:20,896 Then I started learning about Lightning And yeah all this knowledge I want to share and i try to give classes private classes but it really really complex and really boring if you explain it like like technical so 404 00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:28,396 i started doing the artworks and instead of explaining someone how bitcoin's technology 405 00:35:28,396 --> 00:35:30,076 makes it 406 00:35:30,076 --> 00:35:30,976 borderless 407 00:35:30,976 --> 00:35:32,536 I can show them 408 00:35:32,536 --> 00:35:33,296 this artwork 409 00:35:33,296 --> 00:35:34,436 and they ask me 410 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:35,156 what does it mean 411 00:35:35,156 --> 00:35:36,436 and they're already 412 00:35:36,436 --> 00:35:36,916 interested 413 00:35:36,916 --> 00:35:37,676 and then I just 414 00:35:37,676 --> 00:35:38,976 start telling them 415 00:35:38,976 --> 00:35:40,296 and because they're 416 00:35:40,296 --> 00:35:41,556 initially interested 417 00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:42,856 they're also 418 00:35:42,856 --> 00:35:43,936 interested to hear 419 00:35:43,936 --> 00:35:44,796 the answer 420 00:35:44,796 --> 00:35:47,496 so 421 00:35:47,496 --> 00:35:48,316 how 422 00:35:48,316 --> 00:35:48,676 then 423 00:35:48,676 --> 00:35:49,016 like 424 00:35:49,016 --> 00:35:50,036 2015 425 00:35:50,036 --> 00:35:50,916 you said 426 00:35:50,916 --> 00:35:51,176 yeah 427 00:35:51,176 --> 00:35:52,236 was when you 428 00:35:52,236 --> 00:35:53,376 first started 429 00:35:53,376 --> 00:35:54,716 kind of digging around 430 00:35:54,716 --> 00:35:55,636 trying to find Bitcoin 431 00:35:55,636 --> 00:35:56,656 it wasn't easy 432 00:35:56,656 --> 00:35:57,636 yes end of 2015 433 00:35:57,636 --> 00:36:04,976 yeah it wasn't easy to find stuff back in those days no it wasn't easy at all because there was 434 00:36:04,976 --> 00:36:12,116 almost nothing and if there was something that was very very technical i'm not a technical person 435 00:36:12,116 --> 00:36:17,316 also over the last 10 years i learned a lot of technical skills just to understand 436 00:36:17,316 --> 00:36:25,936 this technology better but yeah there was there was almost nothing so i was looking for the next 437 00:36:25,936 --> 00:36:33,096 better bitcoin whereas there's more to understand what it actually is during that time but over the 438 00:36:33,096 --> 00:36:40,516 years of course there there there's so much now that i don't really have to explain anything i 439 00:36:40,516 --> 00:36:48,336 just can make artwork like this and someone who's curious can google it what does it mean and he 440 00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:56,856 he will get the answer she will get the answer especially with the chat gpt and ai it interprets 441 00:36:56,856 --> 00:37:07,176 the artworks very very good so what's now your main focus so you you've got a project 442 00:37:07,176 --> 00:37:15,736 in mind will you have you got another exhibition coming up yes i have one exhibition scheduled 443 00:37:15,736 --> 00:37:18,516 for October 16 444 00:37:18,516 --> 00:37:19,976 here in Barcelona. 445 00:37:21,056 --> 00:37:22,756 It's going to be 446 00:37:22,756 --> 00:37:24,776 at the European 447 00:37:24,776 --> 00:37:25,836 Blockchain Conference 448 00:37:25,836 --> 00:37:28,696 where I am invited 449 00:37:28,696 --> 00:37:29,456 as artist 450 00:37:29,456 --> 00:37:31,416 for the third time. 451 00:37:32,736 --> 00:37:33,816 This year, 452 00:37:34,036 --> 00:37:35,396 it will be the biggest 453 00:37:35,396 --> 00:37:36,396 exhibition I did. 454 00:37:36,476 --> 00:37:37,056 It will be 455 00:37:37,056 --> 00:37:39,716 an eight-meter long wall 456 00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:42,216 where I will present 457 00:37:42,216 --> 00:37:44,676 two new series 458 00:37:44,676 --> 00:37:55,016 one the green bitcoin series and the contrary the bankroll series so on one side i showcase 459 00:37:55,016 --> 00:38:05,936 how bitcoin improves our environment and on the other side i show how our banking system 460 00:38:05,936 --> 00:38:11,456 is destroying not only the economic environment, 461 00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:16,336 but also our earth. 462 00:38:17,896 --> 00:38:20,716 For example, this one is called Greenwash Banker. 463 00:38:20,796 --> 00:38:22,296 It's part of the Bankroll series. 464 00:38:23,776 --> 00:38:29,876 And it's a visual presentation how the banks on media, 465 00:38:30,036 --> 00:38:34,216 they talk about being green and fighting for the environment. 466 00:38:34,216 --> 00:38:39,976 but in reality they fund the very companies 467 00:38:39,976 --> 00:38:42,756 that are destroying our environment. 468 00:38:46,256 --> 00:38:48,456 For the green project, 469 00:38:49,376 --> 00:38:52,816 I haven't uploaded any artworks yet, 470 00:38:52,976 --> 00:38:58,016 but this week I will upload the first one 471 00:38:58,016 --> 00:38:59,056 once it's on the street. 472 00:38:59,336 --> 00:39:00,696 It's already painted. 473 00:39:01,216 --> 00:39:02,376 I finished it yesterday 474 00:39:02,376 --> 00:39:05,056 and the coming days I will put it on the street 475 00:39:05,056 --> 00:39:06,676 and then I will upload it 476 00:39:06,676 --> 00:39:09,016 it's called bioenergy 477 00:39:09,016 --> 00:39:10,916 it's based on 478 00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:12,896 the research 479 00:39:12,896 --> 00:39:14,796 Daniel Batten is sharing 480 00:39:14,796 --> 00:39:16,136 how 481 00:39:16,136 --> 00:39:18,936 Bitcoin mining can make 482 00:39:18,936 --> 00:39:20,636 bio refineries 483 00:39:20,636 --> 00:39:22,316 profitable 484 00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:24,776 and how it can negate 485 00:39:24,776 --> 00:39:26,936 CO2 gas 486 00:39:26,936 --> 00:39:28,716 so I 487 00:39:28,716 --> 00:39:30,876 use really easy 488 00:39:30,876 --> 00:39:31,596 to understand 489 00:39:31,596 --> 00:39:37,676 and iconic pop art figures to raise attention on the street. 490 00:39:37,816 --> 00:39:40,376 So the people, they maybe see this artwork 491 00:39:40,376 --> 00:39:43,076 and they won't really understand what it's about. 492 00:39:43,196 --> 00:39:45,716 They see it's Spider-Man, they see Safety Web, 493 00:39:45,856 --> 00:39:48,236 so it's something related to Spider-Man. 494 00:39:48,336 --> 00:39:52,436 They see the Bitcoin symbol, but it takes time. 495 00:39:52,436 --> 00:39:54,676 It takes time until they will understand it. 496 00:39:54,776 --> 00:39:58,376 For me, once I sold my business 497 00:39:58,376 --> 00:40:02,096 and started learning about Bitcoin, blockchain, lightning, 498 00:40:02,296 --> 00:40:04,976 and all this on a daily basis, what I do until now, 499 00:40:05,416 --> 00:40:09,156 it took me six years until I could understand 500 00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:14,416 the very basis of what this technology is. 501 00:40:14,416 --> 00:40:21,776 So I don't expect anyone to make it click from today or tomorrow. 502 00:40:22,016 --> 00:40:22,656 It takes time. 503 00:40:24,416 --> 00:40:25,916 Yeah, it certainly does. 504 00:40:25,916 --> 00:40:30,276 And the cool thing about this artwork, this style of artwork, 505 00:40:30,876 --> 00:40:32,656 and the stickers that you give out, 506 00:40:32,896 --> 00:40:37,916 it's very approachable for anyone of any age. 507 00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:41,816 Young kids are going to certainly grasp their attention. 508 00:40:43,796 --> 00:40:46,656 Yes, this is for me very important 509 00:40:46,656 --> 00:40:51,516 because I want to inspire the coming generation, 510 00:40:51,516 --> 00:41:04,776 the generation that is born into bitcoin and that for them digital cash won't be something 511 00:41:04,776 --> 00:41:12,556 out of planet earth for today if you tell someone about digital cash they for them it's like a sci-fi 512 00:41:12,556 --> 00:41:21,416 movie even if you most people two-factor authentication for them it's like they're 513 00:41:21,416 --> 00:41:28,856 in a James Bond movie and this is something that the new generation is growing up with this is 514 00:41:28,856 --> 00:41:38,096 normal for them and for them it will be much more easier especially when I put pieces on near high 515 00:41:38,096 --> 00:41:45,136 schools or near schools where no children are walking by i know maybe it'll 10 they take 10 516 00:41:45,136 --> 00:41:53,176 years maybe 15 years but once they reach the certain age bitcoin will feel much more 517 00:41:53,176 --> 00:41:59,816 kind to them they will have they will have a relation to it because they may be stored many 518 00:41:59,816 --> 00:42:08,296 years while walking walking to school or working to study so this is my goal just to plant a seed 519 00:42:08,296 --> 00:42:16,936 and to let let the person go the path organically not force anyone anywhere and are you able to 520 00:42:17,816 --> 00:42:22,756 like fund yourself through through the artwork obviously you're doing the exhibitions that 521 00:42:22,756 --> 00:42:28,396 do they do they sell individual pieces is this how you can uh keep yourself going and 522 00:42:28,396 --> 00:42:31,296 into the future, 10 years down the line? 523 00:42:31,416 --> 00:42:32,816 What do you think it's going to look like? 524 00:42:34,956 --> 00:42:38,136 Yeah, so I'm completely self-funded. 525 00:42:39,136 --> 00:42:43,816 Of course, my early work on Bitcoin 526 00:42:43,816 --> 00:42:46,436 and investing in Bitcoin gives me the cushion. 527 00:42:47,436 --> 00:42:50,616 My artist career is only three years old. 528 00:42:51,456 --> 00:42:54,456 And for me personally, I'm really proud 529 00:42:54,456 --> 00:42:58,316 that I already had my first solo exhibition 530 00:42:58,316 --> 00:43:02,356 because in the classic art world, 531 00:43:03,576 --> 00:43:06,456 many authors have to work for over 10 years 532 00:43:06,456 --> 00:43:10,256 until they get granted a solo exhibition. 533 00:43:11,156 --> 00:43:13,656 So it was a really big success for me. 534 00:43:14,696 --> 00:43:20,256 And at the moment, I put in more than I get out. 535 00:43:20,756 --> 00:43:24,736 But as a businessman, as an entrepreneur, 536 00:43:25,296 --> 00:43:26,596 for me, it's normal. 537 00:43:26,596 --> 00:43:30,536 I know that it won't work from today on tomorrow 538 00:43:30,536 --> 00:43:34,656 and that to build something real takes time. 539 00:43:36,756 --> 00:43:43,376 And thanks to Bitcoin, I am on the long-term time preference. 540 00:43:44,456 --> 00:43:50,556 So Bitcoin always reminds me that I do this not because I have to, 541 00:43:51,036 --> 00:43:54,756 but because I want to share this message 542 00:43:54,756 --> 00:43:57,596 and not because someone needs to know this. 543 00:43:57,756 --> 00:43:59,936 Because for me, Bitcoin already won. 544 00:44:00,776 --> 00:44:03,216 Efficiency beats brute force. 545 00:44:03,436 --> 00:44:05,216 And Bitcoin already won. 546 00:44:06,276 --> 00:44:11,716 And it's just a matter of time until the masses realize it. 547 00:44:11,716 --> 00:44:18,016 And I just do my little part, have fun and share a positive message. 548 00:44:18,016 --> 00:44:29,056 try to reach out to people to help them make the transition into this digital time age and it's it's 549 00:44:29,056 --> 00:44:37,476 it's a little bit similar to the fall of the roman empire so only almost 100 years after the roman 550 00:44:37,476 --> 00:44:47,116 empire fell the masses were aware of it a really long time span um the public didn't even know what 551 00:44:47,116 --> 00:44:54,996 happened behind the curtains because the theater kept going and i think we are in a similar position 552 00:44:54,996 --> 00:45:02,976 where the legacy financial system already failed but the the signal is still being suppressed 553 00:45:02,976 --> 00:45:10,616 and bitcoin already won and we just have to make the best of it have a good time share the message 554 00:45:10,616 --> 00:45:16,416 enjoy the time and it's about the moment just like the street art 555 00:45:16,416 --> 00:45:22,396 how many how many pieces are you making a a week a month a year 556 00:45:22,396 --> 00:45:32,956 i don't know i don't count them but the longer i do this the better i get the faster i get and 557 00:45:32,956 --> 00:45:39,576 the more i produce the more pieces i produce so maybe the first year i had only like 20 or 30 558 00:45:39,576 --> 00:45:47,236 the second year already had over 100 different pieces so it accelerates and this this year uh 559 00:45:47,236 --> 00:45:54,276 i will release um in the next months i will release a new fundraiser this is how i usually 560 00:45:54,276 --> 00:46:02,776 start my projects new designs and i think there will be around 500 different new artworks already 561 00:46:02,776 --> 00:46:07,796 and before I release them to the public, 562 00:46:07,996 --> 00:46:10,936 I always paint them first, put them on the street, 563 00:46:11,116 --> 00:46:12,796 take pictures, document them 564 00:46:12,796 --> 00:46:15,096 and only after this process, 565 00:46:15,096 --> 00:46:22,876 I let people see them and use them for their own projects. 566 00:46:24,056 --> 00:46:26,656 So how do you raise the money through a fundraiser? 567 00:46:26,756 --> 00:46:28,336 Is that on Geyser, for example? 568 00:46:28,716 --> 00:46:30,736 Yes, for example, on Geyser, 569 00:46:30,736 --> 00:46:35,736 I work out the project, like Bonanza one. 570 00:46:36,876 --> 00:46:41,016 It was my first series of seven different designs. 571 00:46:41,016 --> 00:46:46,016 The soldiers, this one, this is the first seven. 572 00:46:48,776 --> 00:46:52,376 And then I just shared the news, I put them on Instagram, 573 00:46:52,421 --> 00:46:54,241 on Twitter, I contact 574 00:46:54,241 --> 00:46:56,261 my network personally 575 00:46:56,261 --> 00:46:58,401 and I offer 576 00:46:58,401 --> 00:46:59,781 the stickers 577 00:46:59,781 --> 00:47:01,481 for 578 00:47:01,481 --> 00:47:03,981 the same price 579 00:47:03,981 --> 00:47:05,741 that I buy them 580 00:47:05,741 --> 00:47:07,621 just 581 00:47:07,621 --> 00:47:10,381 for the same price I produce them 582 00:47:10,381 --> 00:47:11,941 and 583 00:47:11,941 --> 00:47:14,421 usually I collect 584 00:47:14,421 --> 00:47:15,941 around 1200 585 00:47:15,941 --> 00:47:17,741 to 1500 euro 586 00:47:17,741 --> 00:47:20,061 and then I make the production 587 00:47:20,061 --> 00:47:21,401 and send them out worldwide 588 00:47:21,401 --> 00:47:26,101 and I get orders from all over the globe, 589 00:47:26,601 --> 00:47:30,381 all over the globe, from Africa to New Zealand 590 00:47:30,381 --> 00:47:32,161 and everything in between. 591 00:47:33,401 --> 00:47:36,501 And this is only the pieces that I ship out. 592 00:47:37,381 --> 00:47:40,221 And then there are even more people 593 00:47:40,221 --> 00:47:42,961 that print their own stickers, print their own posters, 594 00:47:43,201 --> 00:47:44,681 and I don't even know about it. 595 00:47:45,181 --> 00:47:48,461 Sometimes I just see something, some sticker 596 00:47:48,461 --> 00:47:51,121 or someone sends me something and they ask me, 597 00:47:51,121 --> 00:48:00,621 did you do this and i'm like no i don't know who it was it wasn't me and some stickers popped up 598 00:48:00,621 --> 00:48:08,281 in the airport in qatar someone told me that he saw there so they're just popping up all over the 599 00:48:08,281 --> 00:48:14,581 world and this is why i also try to keep the prices as low as possible and open source the 600 00:48:14,581 --> 00:48:22,721 designs because it's about the message spreading the message and this is also why i stay behind 601 00:48:22,721 --> 00:48:31,901 my art because it doesn't matter who i am because it's about the message i want i want the message 602 00:48:31,901 --> 00:48:40,321 to be in front and i don't think that i do something that anyone else couldn't do if if 603 00:48:40,321 --> 00:48:45,041 they would put in the time especially with the new technology that we have available 604 00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:54,981 so everyone can be an artist everyone can put a sticker somewhere um we also do i also do projects 605 00:48:54,981 --> 00:49:04,681 community projects like here that was the go skate day and where i put my symbol right there 606 00:49:04,681 --> 00:49:13,021 and this was a collaboration with another artist that's an interactive piece so if you scan the qr 607 00:49:13,021 --> 00:49:20,241 code it opens a filter on instagram and it's an augmented reality so the artwork comes to life 608 00:49:20,241 --> 00:49:28,741 the printer starts printing money so you can you can also do it on screen if you have your phone now 609 00:49:28,741 --> 00:49:36,341 or the listeners they can go to youtube and scan the qr code uh this artwork is also in the book 610 00:49:36,341 --> 00:49:42,301 you can also scan it in the book if you would open it what you don't do i'm not opening that 611 00:49:42,301 --> 00:49:50,981 book man yes so uh do different collaborations with different artists this is from also from 612 00:49:50,981 --> 00:49:51,921 ghost gate day 613 00:49:51,921 --> 00:49:55,021 and you see it's a message 614 00:49:55,021 --> 00:49:56,981 don't trust verify it's not 615 00:49:56,981 --> 00:49:59,201 obvious what it is about 616 00:49:59,201 --> 00:50:01,121 only if you start digging 617 00:50:01,121 --> 00:50:02,901 only if you ask 618 00:50:02,901 --> 00:50:04,801 questions so it's more 619 00:50:04,801 --> 00:50:05,261 intended 620 00:50:05,261 --> 00:50:08,461 to fit in 621 00:50:08,461 --> 00:50:11,081 but someone who wants to know more he can 622 00:50:11,081 --> 00:50:13,361 or she can learn more about 623 00:50:13,361 --> 00:50:15,121 what it is actually about 624 00:50:15,121 --> 00:50:18,701 this is 625 00:50:18,701 --> 00:50:20,761 this was 626 00:50:20,761 --> 00:50:22,681 a question with another artist 627 00:50:22,681 --> 00:50:33,241 so it's about 628 00:50:33,241 --> 00:50:35,261 the better future that 629 00:50:35,261 --> 00:50:36,961 we see 630 00:50:36,961 --> 00:50:39,221 with Bitcoin and that Bitcoin 631 00:50:39,221 --> 00:50:40,881 brings us through its 632 00:50:40,881 --> 00:50:42,621 inflation resistance 633 00:50:42,621 --> 00:50:44,681 borderless nature 634 00:50:44,681 --> 00:50:45,981 privacy 635 00:50:45,981 --> 00:50:48,581 and neutral character 636 00:50:48,581 --> 00:50:50,461 and 637 00:50:50,461 --> 00:50:54,101 segregation is a really big topic. 638 00:50:55,681 --> 00:50:59,001 Unfortunately, segregation, financial segregation 639 00:50:59,001 --> 00:51:02,781 is very, very strong everywhere. 640 00:51:02,781 --> 00:51:08,241 I had to deal with it personally, my family also. 641 00:51:09,221 --> 00:51:14,281 And you wouldn't think that in the Western world 642 00:51:14,281 --> 00:51:16,721 we still have financial segregation, 643 00:51:16,721 --> 00:51:22,421 but due to political tensions, everyone can be affected. 644 00:51:23,441 --> 00:51:26,441 Like my mother was affected. 645 00:51:27,781 --> 00:51:36,361 So she was born in Russia and she moved to Germany over 35 years ago. 646 00:51:37,401 --> 00:51:41,981 And I was born there, my siblings were born there 647 00:51:41,981 --> 00:51:56,920 and my parents have a German nationality German passport And last year she wanted to open a bank account in the Sparkasse a German bank and they denied her because of her place of birth 648 00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:05,780 So because she was born in Russia she is not allowed to open a bank account at this bank. 649 00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:12,760 So this is an example of three years ago it wouldn't be a problem. 650 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,820 today we have 651 00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:16,760 political tension and now it's a problem 652 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,240 and you never know 653 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:21,100 what is going to happen tomorrow 654 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:22,680 and this is some 655 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,220 kind of certainty 656 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:26,380 that Bitcoin 657 00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:29,040 grants us 658 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,080 we know that we won't be excluded 659 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,140 we know that 660 00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:35,060 it will be always open for us 661 00:52:35,060 --> 00:52:36,060 for everyone 662 00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,600 yeah 663 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,080 100% agree with you 664 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,500 and I hope 665 00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:48,300 people listening that uh that haven't fallen this far into the rabbit hole yet start to understand 666 00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:55,480 the very the very nature of bitcoin and how it how important it is to self-custody your bitcoin 667 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:01,440 take a loyal title of your bitcoin because if you if you like cyber just said you know anything 668 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,680 can happen tomorrow and all of a sudden the rules change and bam you're locked out of your 669 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:13,420 crypto exchange whatever it is uh get your coins into your possession do that please 670 00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:18,600 uh mate this is great this has been so cool going through all of this this artwork with you 671 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:24,940 so people can just get to your uh obviously i'll have the the link uh but those listening or 672 00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:32,140 watching street cyber dot art is that the best place for them to go and see the yes yeah there 673 00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:38,940 they can find the online gallery they can find our do-it-yourself files they can download for free 674 00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:43,740 right yes because you said you open source the design so they can just download for free and get 675 00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:51,100 the stickers printed wherever they're at right if there you can see it here i'm now opening the tab 676 00:53:55,260 --> 00:54:01,500 you can see it says the revolution will be printed and then we have all the different collections 677 00:54:02,140 --> 00:54:09,160 the Bitcoin Squad, the Banditos, the Bonanza 124 collection. 678 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,500 Then we have it as a poster format, and we have it also as a sticker format. 679 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,480 So you see on the sticker format, you see a light blue outline to cut it out, the stickers. 680 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,640 So they have a form. 681 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,520 We have the Revolution Pack that you saw a lot in my gallery in seven different languages. 682 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,280 was also a community project. 683 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,980 We got people from Japan, from Poland, from Italy. 684 00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:40,760 They were all translating the five different designs. 685 00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:43,140 So we have seven different languages. 686 00:54:44,420 --> 00:54:46,840 And this is a new pack. 687 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,460 It's based on a fable, the tortoise and the hare. 688 00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:58,320 Essentially, it's the hare, a rabbit, 689 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,380 challenged the tortoise 690 00:55:00,380 --> 00:55:01,440 to 691 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,160 who can run faster 692 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,340 and the hare 693 00:55:06,340 --> 00:55:08,060 of course accepted 694 00:55:08,060 --> 00:55:10,320 and the hare represents 695 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,540 the current financial system 696 00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:14,540 the inflation, the short 697 00:55:14,540 --> 00:55:16,660 term time vision 698 00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:18,820 and the 699 00:55:18,820 --> 00:55:20,040 turtle 700 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,460 represents Bitcoin long term vision 701 00:55:22,460 --> 00:55:24,320 step by step, slowly 702 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,100 but surely 703 00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,440 so 704 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:36,460 at the start the rabbit went ahead and it was so sure that it will win that it made the break 705 00:55:36,460 --> 00:55:46,920 just to enjoy the the fruits so the fast money and the tortoise was just kept going 706 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:55,700 and once the the turtle already crossed the finish line the rabbit realized that 707 00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:58,700 he fell asleep and it was 708 00:55:58,700 --> 00:55:59,800 too late for him. 709 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,620 This is really close 710 00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:04,360 to what's happening at the moment 711 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,760 with the financial system. 712 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:08,340 You can download 713 00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:10,340 the designs. I have 714 00:56:10,340 --> 00:56:12,420 one where you can have 715 00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:14,520 all three pictures as one 716 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,700 design and then you can 717 00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:18,520 also print each separately. 718 00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:20,420 We got 719 00:56:20,420 --> 00:56:22,260 people in France 720 00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:24,340 that own Airbnbs that 721 00:56:24,340 --> 00:56:26,240 put the artworks in there 722 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,340 people in 723 00:56:28,340 --> 00:56:30,400 Austria that 724 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,340 have a restaurant that put their 725 00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:33,400 posters there 726 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,320 cinemas in USA 727 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,340 that put their artworks there 728 00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:40,040 so it's everywhere 729 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:52,398 everywhere where it can grab some attention public attention or also from private people Very cool 730 00:56:53,658 --> 00:56:55,478 Well, there you go, mate. 731 00:56:55,878 --> 00:56:58,158 I've got one final question for you. 732 00:56:58,858 --> 00:56:59,378 Yes. 733 00:56:59,698 --> 00:57:02,638 If you had one last orange pill to give to somebody, 734 00:57:03,018 --> 00:57:04,678 who would you give it to and why? 735 00:57:07,818 --> 00:57:09,918 I have to think about it. 736 00:57:09,918 --> 00:57:12,078 who would it be 737 00:57:12,078 --> 00:57:16,018 let me think 738 00:57:16,018 --> 00:57:23,898 it would be an artist 739 00:57:23,898 --> 00:57:26,198 maybe Banksy 740 00:57:26,198 --> 00:57:28,418 maybe he is already 741 00:57:28,418 --> 00:57:29,278 orange-pilled 742 00:57:29,278 --> 00:57:30,638 who knows 743 00:57:30,638 --> 00:57:33,078 that would be so cool 744 00:57:33,078 --> 00:57:34,778 the next Banksy 745 00:57:34,778 --> 00:57:37,698 the most recent one at the time of recording 746 00:57:37,698 --> 00:57:39,058 one turned up on the 747 00:57:39,058 --> 00:57:48,498 the royal house of justice or the courts in in the uk of a magistrate beating up like a citizen 748 00:57:48,498 --> 00:57:56,538 yeah and yeah like it gets covered up and removed immediately like the irony of that is just so 749 00:57:56,538 --> 00:58:02,098 wonderful everybody can see what you know what he was trying to prove and they went ahead and 750 00:58:02,098 --> 00:58:08,158 helped him prove it they uh you know the clamp down of uh freedom of speech and the idea that 751 00:58:08,158 --> 00:58:16,158 there is no real uh legal justice and it's all being run by invisible hands uh yeah very very 752 00:58:16,158 --> 00:58:23,018 powerful but if one of his next pieces just does turn up to be like like there's a bitcoin symbol 753 00:58:23,018 --> 00:58:30,278 on it or something like that would just be what a message that would be such validation for what 754 00:58:30,278 --> 00:58:38,198 you've been doing with your work yeah maybe we never know i know uh his name banksy is tied 755 00:58:38,838 --> 00:58:49,078 to a financial crisis that he experienced as child with his father in bristol where he was born and 756 00:58:49,798 --> 00:58:56,838 i read a story that um he went just to the bank and they saw how it was shut down and 757 00:58:56,838 --> 00:59:01,318 that this is where the root of his name, Banksy, comes from. 758 00:59:01,318 --> 00:59:06,858 So it was something that moved him to start doing what he does. 759 00:59:07,358 --> 00:59:11,558 And there are even some artists in this artist space, 760 00:59:11,638 --> 00:59:14,578 in the art community that are interested in Bitcoin, 761 00:59:14,938 --> 00:59:20,038 and they think that Banksy could be Satoshi Nakamoto. 762 00:59:20,858 --> 00:59:26,538 So there's something like this also circulating in the art space. 763 00:59:26,838 --> 00:59:28,058 in a little niche. 764 00:59:29,118 --> 00:59:31,298 And what I find also really interesting, 765 00:59:31,778 --> 00:59:34,438 if you look at the Genesis block, 766 00:59:35,258 --> 00:59:37,138 where it says, 767 00:59:37,538 --> 00:59:42,258 Chancellor on bringing second bail out for banks, 768 00:59:42,838 --> 00:59:45,138 you will see that in the... 769 00:59:49,998 --> 00:59:51,598 Oh, you got a cup. 770 00:59:54,518 --> 00:59:55,978 And that's where we lost him. 771 00:59:55,978 --> 01:00:05,378 right there that's where the whole thing crashed we did get back online but it felt like such a 772 01:00:05,378 --> 01:00:11,958 perfect cliffhanger to leave the whole interview on we decided just to leave it as it was street 773 01:00:11,958 --> 01:00:20,178 cyber was absolutely blown away that he got cut at that last moment that he was about to explain 774 01:00:20,178 --> 01:00:22,158 what was in that genesis block 775 01:00:22,158 --> 01:00:25,358 you're going to have to go look 776 01:00:25,358 --> 01:00:26,478 you're going to have to go look 777 01:00:26,478 --> 01:00:27,878 that's all I can say 778 01:00:27,878 --> 01:00:30,858 it's such a perfect ending 779 01:00:30,858 --> 01:00:32,398 for what he's trying to achieve 780 01:00:32,398 --> 01:00:34,658 to try and pull education out of people 781 01:00:34,658 --> 01:00:36,098 to try and pull thoughts 782 01:00:36,098 --> 01:00:39,778 and musings from people's minds 783 01:00:39,778 --> 01:00:41,138 when they look at his artwork 784 01:00:41,138 --> 01:00:42,518 and yeah 785 01:00:42,518 --> 01:00:43,918 it couldn't have been a much 786 01:00:43,918 --> 01:00:45,998 more perfect way 787 01:00:45,998 --> 01:00:47,498 to end that interview 788 01:00:47,498 --> 01:00:49,018 and if you were watching it 789 01:00:49,018 --> 01:00:52,398 he just disappears off the screen 790 01:00:52,398 --> 01:00:52,958 at that moment 791 01:00:52,958 --> 01:00:56,058 so yep, go check it out 792 01:00:56,058 --> 01:00:57,658 what was he talking about? 793 01:00:57,858 --> 01:00:59,078 what's in the genesis block 794 01:00:59,078 --> 01:01:01,238 that relates to Banksy 795 01:01:01,238 --> 01:01:04,678 anyway, like I said at the beginning here 796 01:01:04,678 --> 01:01:06,738 it was all a bit of a rant 797 01:01:06,738 --> 01:01:08,858 but please guys, take self-custody 798 01:01:08,858 --> 01:01:09,818 very very seriously 799 01:01:09,818 --> 01:01:12,478 do not sell your bitcoin, do not leverage your bitcoin 800 01:01:12,478 --> 01:01:13,938 to Wall Street, do not 801 01:01:13,938 --> 01:01:15,058 hoon 802 01:01:15,058 --> 01:01:18,638 do not ape your pension into bitcoin treasury funds 803 01:01:18,638 --> 01:01:23,438 what's going on right now is absolute insanity. 804 01:01:24,218 --> 01:01:26,758 People are falling into traps, left, right and centre. 805 01:01:26,918 --> 01:01:29,298 And the reason that these traps are being set 806 01:01:29,298 --> 01:01:31,638 is because everybody wants your Bitcoin. 807 01:01:32,358 --> 01:01:35,298 If you're following me on Twitter, I'm doing a daily series. 808 01:01:35,518 --> 01:01:37,458 I call it the I Am Member series. 809 01:01:37,458 --> 01:01:50,416 I going back through my memory banks of articles podcasts interviews talks whatever it is that helped me down the rabbit hole and some of this content may be buried buried buried deep deep 810 01:01:50,416 --> 01:01:54,776 deep beneath all of the books and everything else that's available now so I'm trying to cherry pick 811 01:01:54,776 --> 01:01:59,916 some of the stuff that's very important to people and and tweak that so go follow me on twitter I'm 812 01:01:59,916 --> 01:02:06,416 putting up on Nostra as well links are in the show notes to go go find me there and one of the 813 01:02:06,416 --> 01:02:11,896 well two of the pieces that were very pertinent this weekend one by Bitstein he wrote this back 814 01:02:11,896 --> 01:02:20,736 in 2014 called everyone's a scammer and he means it and so go and read the read the article it's a 815 01:02:20,736 --> 01:02:26,176 brilliant piece it's one of these seminal pieces in the bitcoin space the second piece in 2019 816 01:02:26,176 --> 01:02:35,456 from Parker Lewis is bitcoin not blockchain crypto was absolutely annihilated this weekend 817 01:02:35,456 --> 01:02:44,156 people lost so much money gone i mean he's not coming back it's it's over and the reason is 818 01:02:44,156 --> 01:02:50,396 people have been telling them to diversify into other shit coins whereas like it's our job again 819 01:02:50,396 --> 01:02:56,736 as an influencer that people like to to call us podcasters it's up to us to make sure you're 820 01:02:56,736 --> 01:03:03,816 bitcoin only and you carry on bitcoin only and you stack in the most like uh private manner that 821 01:03:03,816 --> 01:03:09,636 you can and take self-custody. That's it. That's the job. That's all you need to do. That's the 822 01:03:09,636 --> 01:03:17,516 only financial engineering you will ever have to do. Buy and self-custody and hold Bitcoin. 823 01:03:18,596 --> 01:03:23,816 And your life will change. Give it four to eight years. I guarantee you. If you can sit on your 824 01:03:23,816 --> 01:03:28,876 hands for four to eight years, if you can just carry on your life right now, dollar cost average 825 01:03:28,876 --> 01:03:33,716 into Bitcoin and sit on your hands and not sell it and not get shaken out and just keep your 826 01:03:33,716 --> 01:03:39,176 head down, educate yourself, listening to podcasts, reading the articles, reading the books, whatever 827 01:03:39,176 --> 01:03:44,396 it is, take it slowly, one step at a time, join Orange Pill App, find your local events, find your 828 01:03:44,396 --> 01:03:51,876 conferences, get there. But don't sell anything, just keep stacking for four to eight years, then 829 01:03:51,876 --> 01:03:55,796 you'll be in a completely different mindset, you'll be in a completely different place financially, 830 01:03:56,236 --> 01:04:00,796 you'll be able to make completely different decisions, options will open up to you that you 831 01:04:00,796 --> 01:04:06,336 could never ever have imagined and all you have to do like i said it's the only financial 832 01:04:06,336 --> 01:04:12,756 engineering you'll have to do buy and hold it's that simple guys don't collateralize your bitcoin 833 01:04:12,756 --> 01:04:18,856 don't leverage your bitcoin don't trade your bitcoin self-custody it write down your words 834 01:04:18,856 --> 01:04:23,376 don't put your words on a digital computer don't take a picture of them don't do anything like that 835 01:04:23,376 --> 01:04:30,516 it's as simple as it gets it's a pen and a paper like that's it and get on with life 836 01:04:30,516 --> 01:04:31,776 and love your family. 837 01:04:32,936 --> 01:04:36,236 So that's the final bit of influencing. 838 01:04:37,736 --> 01:04:41,236 Make sure you, like I said at the beginning, 839 01:04:41,356 --> 01:04:42,496 it is important to meet people. 840 01:04:42,916 --> 01:04:45,476 Get on Orange Pill App, find out who's close to you, 841 01:04:45,656 --> 01:04:47,076 get along to the local events. 842 01:04:47,676 --> 01:04:52,576 We've got Manchester, Bitcoin Balkans, BTC Japan, 843 01:04:52,576 --> 01:04:55,316 all happy to offer you guys 10% discount 844 01:04:55,316 --> 01:04:57,796 on the ticket purchases. 845 01:04:57,996 --> 01:04:59,136 The links are in the show notes, 846 01:04:59,136 --> 01:05:02,256 So if you can get to one of those events, make sure you get across there. 847 01:05:02,976 --> 01:05:08,196 Paywithflash.com is the place for you to go and start demanding Bitcoin for your goods and services. 848 01:05:08,696 --> 01:05:10,396 Relay across Europe for stacking. 849 01:05:10,736 --> 01:05:11,836 Swan in the US. 850 01:05:12,416 --> 01:05:22,736 And if you want to support plebeian.market, get across there and see where you can start interacting with merchants that are demanding Bitcoin for their goods and services. 851 01:05:23,296 --> 01:05:26,136 There's even a yacht for sale on plebeian.market. 852 01:05:26,876 --> 01:05:28,036 I am not kidding you. 853 01:05:28,036 --> 01:05:32,316 There is a yacht for sale in Bitcoin on plebeian.market. 854 01:05:32,656 --> 01:05:37,196 I did a quick, quick shout out at the very beginning for Andre at Free Madeira. 855 01:05:37,956 --> 01:05:45,836 When I get a new shout out, it all gets crazy and mixed up and it takes me a few efforts to get it all in the right spot. 856 01:05:46,836 --> 01:05:51,856 But Basalto Fund, based out of Madeira, part of the Free Madeira project, Andre came on. 857 01:05:51,936 --> 01:05:55,716 You can go back and listen to his episode and we talk about that fund. 858 01:05:55,716 --> 01:06:03,556 it's particularly interesting if you're looking for a like a citizen residency and finally a 859 01:06:03,556 --> 01:06:11,796 passport and the fund has been set up to be able to invest into bitcoin directly and into bitcoin 860 01:06:11,796 --> 01:06:18,776 companies via ego death and you have nidig part of this fund as well so andre's really taking the 861 01:06:18,776 --> 01:06:24,936 time to curate this this plan it's worth listening to the episode and reaching out to him if you'd 862 01:06:24,936 --> 01:06:31,356 like to learn any more about it so like i said i'll get better with that shout out as time progresses 863 01:06:31,356 --> 01:06:38,716 i really appreciate all you guys listening thank you so much stack safe take care catch on the next