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Hello, everybody. My name is Daniel Prince, and I'm the host of the Once Bitten podcast.

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This is a podcast focused on Bitcoin. It's my mission to interview as many people as I can

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around the different aspects of Bitcoin and help people understand exactly what Bitcoin

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could mean for them and for their families and for their future. I hope you enjoy the show.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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the implications here urge everybody to take a step back try and process it it's still very very

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raw more information is coming as we speak every minute and uh yeah i it's it's a tough one to

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follow a hundred percent it's a tough one to follow uh follow it we shall and keep building

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we must and i hope this episode brings you some some joy and shines a little light into some of

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the darkness that's been uncovered and gives you something else to get your teeth into pun intended

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pun fully intended this is all about bitcoin beef bits this is a great story a positive story a

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wonderful story of Bitcoiners coming together and talking to their local butchers and explaining

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to them the importance of adopting Bitcoin, accepting Bitcoin at the shop and then making

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products for Bitcoiners. And this went very, very quickly for the butcher who is on the call today,

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who went from zero to creating a high-end, quality-grade, premium product for Bitcoiners to snack on and eat.

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And they are delicious.

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And I hope you get to taste them soon.

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And I hope you reach out to the guys if there's any way that you can add value

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or if you want to get your hands on some of their product.

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And hopefully you'll get to meet them at some of the Bitcoin conferences coming up over the next year.

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which is a nice segue to shield btc hell btc hell sinky is going to go ahead again this is where i

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met the bitcoin beef and bits guys this is where i got to taste some of the product uh so make sure

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you hit the link in the show notes go find out when btc hell is going to be it's going to be

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september and then get your tickets and you can get 10 discount using the code bitten they did

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drop a code in here for me as well on this episode if you want to try the bitcoin beef and bits you

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can get 21 discount using that code bitten as well and btc prague in june code bitten it's going to

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get you 10 discount on all your ticket purchases so that's the shills there for the conferences

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Yes, you have to pay.

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Yes, there is a reason you pay

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because if you don't pay, that means it's free

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and that means you're the product

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So that's all I've got to say.

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Stacks hats, stay humble, self-custody, educate others.

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We've got to get back to the most basic thing here.

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there's been a lot of nonsense noise that's been drowning out the signal and it's been going on for

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at least 18 months maybe two years get your head out of the noise get away from never sell your

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bitcoin take out my loan bro get away from bitcoin treasury companies get away from whatever the next

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thing is coming the nfts ordinals runes any of this nonsense stay humble stack sats self-custody

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educate others enjoy this one with beef and bits all right we are recording guys so we got uh yuho

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and chris on the line bitcoin beef bits yeah bitcoin beef bits this is gonna be there you're

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holding it up you're holding up a package there yeah yeah i'm just gonna go ahead and show you

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guys what the beef bits look like like straight away these are the beef bits wonderful and for

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those that aren't watching on audio only it's basically the best way i would say to describe it

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beef jerky or salami or no no no no all right i should have asked the question why why would

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have i assumed something lauren i don't know shortly it's it's a beef crisp beef crisp

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no additives no sugar completely crispy beef chip okay yeah so for american listeners crisps to us

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is like what chips are to them so like a potato chip that you'd open in a packet

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the same kind of thing but basically pure beef yes yeah the funny thing though the the word jerky

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comes from an old native american word sharké which means dried meat so so anything you know

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called jerky is practically a heritage from that word so it is dried meat but people see jerky as

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as the modern product you see in every stores now,

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which is full of sugar and soy and syrup and all kinds of fiat stuff.

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So this is, we don't want to be that.

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Okay. Dare I say the word biltong and now offend all of the South Africans,

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or are we all good with that?

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Biltong is pretty good. It's a spicy version, air dried.

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reminds a lot of the traditional Finnish air-dried meat,

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what they make up in Lapland from reindeer.

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It has vinegar in the marinade,

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so it helps with the preservation.

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But it's chewy, and the beef beets are crispy.

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Okay. All right. Well, good.

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The texture is really different.

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So Chris is the BTC butcher,

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so he knows all about the meat like he's an expert on the meat

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where do you get your beef from or your meat from to make this

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so uh since 2012 uh i've been working with with around 200 different producers

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here in the helsinki finland southern finland area and i i worked together with about five

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five butcheries and slaughterhouses.

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And we have our own butcher store and butchery in Helsinki.

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So we source from around 200 different farms.

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All is grass-fed.

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Unfortunately, we can't say everything is organic

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because some refuse to follow the organic bureaucracy rules here in Finland.

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and grass they can they're not allowed to be called organic even though the production is very much so

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so yeah we we know where the beef comes from uh we can name the farm we can name the breed

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uh the producers call me and ask that hey now it's going to slaughter how many do you want

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and we make the deal and the bodies come to us and we cut ourselves wow do you understand what

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what he was saying about why they're not allowed to call it organic because um they're not allowed

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to because i don't know because they're not following certain regulations well the the

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bureaucrats uh that say to be organic you have to do this this this this this this this and this

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even though the farmer already does that yeah but why would you therefore have to submit all

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of that paperwork just to get a certificate to say that you are selling organic It just nonsense And it probably costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time Yes and they charge the whole food chain all the way from the primary production

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The farmers pay their fees and do their bureaucracy.

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The slaughterhouse pays their fees,

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do their bureaucracy,

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all the way to the last final price,

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which the consumer pays,

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which is way more than needed

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because you have to cover a lot of expenses

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on the way there.

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just to say this cow ate some grass

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ridiculous

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but if you bring it up in a slaughterhouse

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and do whatever you want

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sorry bring it up in like industrial

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kind of farming and follow those rules

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it's cheaper to get

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so which makes no sense

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because the animals had a

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shitty life

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peasy meat than

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dull sad meat exactly that is very right that's what we work for

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sorry that's what we work work for so you're asking me a question like oh um

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do you have any follow-up questions i do not yet yet they'll come that is true um

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Are they delicious?

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Yeah, I was going to say, that's a bit of a silly question.

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Do you ship worldwide?

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No, we only ship EU-wide at the moment.

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if you're going to the

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like if you're not

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smuggling it in your backpack

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or in your luggage

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so from the web shop

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not internationally or worldwide

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but shout out

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shout out to the whole world

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we are interested in discussing opportunities with people that would be interested

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to support their local farms with this definitely straight to the point

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so you want to help people say they want to set up their own bitcoin beef bits in their own

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jurisdiction you want to just open source everything that you've done and give them

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like the the game plan that you've put together look at different opportunities yes perfect

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excellent all right well thank you lauren thank you for having me and thank you for answering my

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questions be good thank you bye bye let me grab my laptop i need you some homework

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right okay guys uh let's start with bitcoin origin stories so people can get up to speed as to

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you know who you are where you come from how you discovered bitcoin and then we'll get into all of

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the fun stuff after that okay you start okay uh sure uh uh i guess i got into bitcoin

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like like properly into bitcoin in 2020. I had just sold my company and left the company who bought

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my company and I had a lot of free time in my hands. So I had previously like so many of us

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Bitcoiners bumped into Bitcoin like in 2013, I think, or even 2011.

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I remember downloading the software back in the day, but because you couldn't mine Bitcoin

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with a CPU anymore, I quickly removed the software from my laptop and didn't think about

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it all afterwards and then obviously there's life so you're busy and you don't think about

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these things but once I had time in 2020 to take a really proper look at Bitcoin, read

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about it, listen to podcasts, watch videos from YouTube.

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I really, really got excited about the idea of the whole neutral money, global money, rules without rulers, aspects of Bitcoin as a tool for freedom.

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It's a really powerful tool for freedom.

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So that got me excited about five and a half years ago.

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been reading about it ever since obviously in the beginning when you once you get into it you're

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usually in it for money as well but nowadays nowadays it's more about the freedom aspects from

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And I think, yeah, and I think like in 2020, the spark that actually got me interested was, yes, I had a lot of free time, but that was the year when in August, I think Michael Saylor bought a lot of Bitcoin for his company.

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And that was something that made me rethink because previously I didn't see a use case because I didn't know about it that much.

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but that made me rethink because somebody putting in a billion dollars worth of his own wealth

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means that he must see something in it and so that was the spark for me to start learning about it

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yeah perfect time as well because you well you just sold your company so you had the free time

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lockdowns were rolling in so you had even more free time and uh there was plenty of information

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out at that point you know that there's books and podcasts and uh anything else that um you could get

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your hands into and a good did you find the uh the bitcoin scene in finland quite quickly or did that

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take a little while for you to fall into no i i didn't like find the community i think it was

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I want to say a year, but it might have even been more than a year before I actively started to

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look for a Bitcoin community in Finland or in Helsinki. I first just read about it and,

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you know, talked about it anonymously online and like listened to podcasts and stuff like that. I

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I didn't feel the need for the community.

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But since then, since I've been an active member of the community in Helsinki,

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it's been great because there's a filter with the community

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where a lot of the Bitcoiners see the world the same.

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And the community feels like your own.

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How about you, Chris?

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Well, funny thing. I didn't know anything about Bitcoin before last July.

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Even though, as we run our butcher shop, one of our regular customers is one of the first Bitcoiners in Bitcoin history.

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Shout out to Martti Malmi.

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shop

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and you can see him right here

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and he brings this

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machine with him

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explains who he is

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and yeah they're arranging this

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BTC Hell conference

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he plugs in the machine and asks that can we do something and and before this i've been making

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jerky and drying ground beef and making built on and so it clicked right away that okay

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this is the the miner it produces heat and airflow what i need and and and i said hold my beer

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from there it went actually Chris I think I talked to your wife first so I marched into the shop

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and asked Minna your wife whether or not she knew anything about dried meat

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so there was a discussion it just wasn't with you and me before I brought in the machine it was

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between me and your wife.

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So we had a discussion.

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I was already, you know,

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going back to my car

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to get the machine to show you guys

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what kind of heat the machine produces.

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So you had a Bitcoin ASIC with you.

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So like that's Chris's point of view

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is like that I just came into the store,

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which was that because I am one of the co and founders of BTC Hell which is the first Nordic Bitcoin conference ever And we held it for the first time last August

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I was part of the organizing team looking for things that we could show

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the audience at the conference that would be cool.

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And on a personal level, I had had discussions with Bitcoiners in Helsinki during meetups and whenever about drying meat with Bitcoin miners.

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So that the idea was something that kind of had developed over months or even years beforehand.

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And the conference was a kind of a place where I wanted to, if I could, I wanted to have that on display, just have somebody come and dry meat at the conference for people to see that you can actually capture the heat and use it for something else than just heating your house, for example.

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You can do other things as well.

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So that was the reason I was looking for somebody who was familiar with the meat drying things, because that's not what I'm familiar with.

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I don't have a butchery or understand the cutting or other processing that goes into actually producing something that you can eat.

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So I first tried to contact one of the big jerky manufacturers in Helsinki or in Finland.

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But they said that no, no, no.

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They came up with all kinds of different excuses and reasons why they won't be doing that

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and why they don't want to be part of the Bitcoin conference

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and why they think it's a bad idea and whatever.

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So I had those discussions and like with Chris, it was completely different.

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Like I came into the store.

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I wasn't expecting really anything to happen because it was in July and the conference was going to be in August.

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So there was a month, about a month left for something to happen.

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but

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like once I talked with

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Chris's wife and once I showed

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Chris the

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minor it was like

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Chris said it was a genuine

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hold my beer moment like

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he just took the idea and

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went and then

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what made you walk into his shop

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did Marty tell you that

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he's a good guy or was it just

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complete coincidence

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I don't actually remember who told me about the butchery, but somebody told me about the

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Kotitila. Chris has a shop in Helsinki and so it was nearby to me and I could just walk in and

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you know, go ask.

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I don't remember why,

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but I do remember

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that I was

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kind of already given,

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I had already given up on the idea

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that we won't be having

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any neat drying going on

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in the BTC Health Conference

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because nobody just

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wants to do that. But I remember

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Kaisu, who's the producer

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for the conference, she told

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me to try

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try one more time

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because she thought

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that the idea was so cool that

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she actually wanted to

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produce that kind of

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booth at the conference.

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That was going to be my

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final try. I wasn't going to go

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and ask anybody else anymore.

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Wow. So many cool

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little serendipitous moments here.

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For those people that aren't aware

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of who Marty Malmi is, I believe he's the

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second person to have ever

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interacted with Satoshi.

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And it was some of his emails that were just recently released a few years ago now for the Craig Wright trial.

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So, yeah, Marty's been around a long time.

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So, Chris, Marty's one of your customers, like just randomly, like this dude's walking in and out of your shop.

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He was as close to Satoshi as you could ever imagine without even knowing it.

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That's incredible.

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Well, there's a funny story regarding this.

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see

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Marty is a big carnivore

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right so he's been

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ordering online and we've been delivering

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and

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we never had a talk about these

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beef bits or anything

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and I hadn't met him

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actually he always ordered online

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and

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at the event the BTC

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Hell event I stood at the

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booth and I was chatting with somebody

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who was enthusiastic about the product

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and all of a sudden this goth looking guy

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comes standing by the booth and tasting and having the meat

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and I keep talking with the other guy and he turns

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looks at the other guy and his eyes

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rolled and asked, hey, are you Marti Malami?

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And he's like, yeah. And then I remember

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the name. Hey, dude, you've been ordering tons of meat from us.

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what's up

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and then I get to know

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the connection with Bitcoin

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and the name and all this

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and we started

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talking and he

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gave recognition

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to what we're doing

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and also thanks

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for all the meat he's had

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during the years

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and then we just started chatting

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hey if you want to see where your

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meat comes from why don't you come with me to

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the butchery one day and we cut together

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and that's what we did

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that's so cool

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right okay so

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I remember like at the conference

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Chris because he was really new

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to the scene he didn't know anybody

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or didn't know anybody's

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face basically and

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I was standing at the

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I mean I

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didn't stay at the Bitcoin

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Beef Bits booth the whole time

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but when I was there I was just pointing

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to Chris look there's this

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celebrity guy I don't know he's going to taste

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the product and I was all excited

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about people coming and tasting the stuff

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and he was just nonchalantly

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like oh who's that

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I was

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star struck

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at the booth and he was just

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business as usual

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people tasting the meat

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so Chris once

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he's like fired up this machine

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like what goes through your mind

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like I've got this dude in my shop with this

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like shoebox size looking computer with a fan on one end he's really excited about something like

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this is weird no no i'm i'm sort of a a steampunk wannabe engineer myself so i kind of got it

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immediately uh i i i uh i took the machine it had the nozzles and and i went to straight away to

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measure everything and look for parts. I converted an old freezer to a drying chamber.

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And then I started thinking about all the filtering and the fumes and the particles and added that to

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the process. And we just did a test run right away and we hit, we nailed it right away.

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So it was a very straightforward, quick thingy, including design, production, packing, setting up for the conference.

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Okay. All right. So what kind of, what cut of meat are you using then?

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Beef, obviously. It's the top round or the eye of round, which are the leanest cuts.

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and that obviously my mind is thinking i'm going to fire dumb questions at you

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the leanest cuts because you want to reduce the drying time as quickly as possible would that be

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why and reduce the fat because we don't use any preservatives or additives and the fat is the one

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that gets moldy.

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Okay.

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So that's why we do it completely fat-free.

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Okay.

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So completely fat-free, a marketing gimmick for some people out there.

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And so now – so you've got – how thin do you slice it?

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You slice this stuff and then hang it in your drying chamber

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and then just pump the air through the asic,

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through the drying chamber, and for how long?

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Talk us through the process.

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Yeah, well, we slice it, of course.

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We have to salt it properly.

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Okay, so how thick is the slice?

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The raw slice is about two and a half centimeters.

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Oh, two and a half millimeters, sorry.

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Two and a half millimeters, and how long?

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They're just sliced through.

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There you see it.

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it's like a penny thick as a penny huh right okay so you don't do strips first and then break it all

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up no we cut it over the the fiber right not along the fiber as we've built on our jerky

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so it's not chewy just crispy and and uh and and then at the moment the chamber we have

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it dries 30 kilos of raw beef in 16 hours.

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Right, okay.

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And are you using a very sharp knife, hand cutting this,

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or a very precise slicing machine,

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or just the type of thing you see in any deli We have a charcuterie cutter that does the job okay yeah right so you can fly out 30 kilos of those chips and then they go on what like a wire rack or something

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and stacked into the the the the freezer yes yep yes and then the uh how many sats have you uh

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mind are you keeping a spreadsheet of that that's your whole stuff right okay and dare i ask

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Are you solo mining?

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Are you pointing at ocean?

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What's kind of like the ethos to the mining side of this now?

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Yeah, we are mining and we are getting sats in return.

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But at our scale, it's obviously since we are not scaling the production just yet,

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it's not a massive amount of sats that we are producing.

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we're not running the

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miners in between

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the drying runs so

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only when we are producing the meat

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we are mining at the

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moment at least

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I don't remember

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from the top of my head how many

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sats we've mined but

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it's about

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like when we

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compare the

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profits of the mining to the profits from just selling the product, it's something like

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3% maybe of the total cost. And since the margins on the product are

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lowish.

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It is actually a relevant

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part of the

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whole

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profit margin

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or will be once the

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operation gets scaled up.

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And as for like, do we

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solo mine? No, we don't

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solo mine. We want to

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ideologically

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contribute to the...

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Well, we could solo mine

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and contribute that way, but we

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We've chosen Ocean as a pool to actually generate some revenue

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and keep track of the revenue and see if it will have an impact at some point.

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And Ocean is, I think, the best choice for somebody who wants to decentralize

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or help with the decentralization of the mining at the moment,

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since they have a variety of templates that you can pick.

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You can even do your own if you're into that,

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but you can pick their non-spammy template

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or you can pick core template if you want to have spam in the blocks.

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And then they have the Lightning payouts.

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So you can set up the mining so that you can actually get paid

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even if you're not mining that huge of a –

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at a huge hash rate like we are not.

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So those two things combined make us mine with Ocean.

447
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And what is the machine?

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Is it an old S9 or what have you got there?

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We have an S19J that we are using.

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Obviously, if and when we scale up the production,

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then we will have to calculate what makes sense

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in terms of like the actual capital required and the SATs that it's producing.

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But at this stage it doesn't really matter what machine we are using.

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It's more of a cool example of a use case for heat capture than something that would be super relevant

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for the operation at the moment.

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Right now, we need to find the meat-loving Bitcoiners

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who would like to try the product,

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who would like to, you know,

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actually be our customers for the beef bits.

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I have my five cents regarding the efficiency

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in production aspect.

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One thing that I got interested in from the start

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was that this machine pays for its own electricity

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because all the drying I do otherwise, I pay for it.

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But this little thing keeps stacking up those SATs.

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So in that sense, even those 3% are a lot, in my opinion.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Like I said, it's not like we are producing a ton of SATs,

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but it's not insignificant either.

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it's relevant

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because once you scale up the operation

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then obviously we'll also scale up the costs

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for the drying

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and at that stage

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it makes sense to eliminate

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or balance that cost with the SATs production.

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I'm not saying that it's a pure marketing gimmick

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it's not, it's relevant

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but it's not the most relevant.

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The most relevant part of the product is the product itself,

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not the mining.

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Like the beef bits, they are a great product,

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and that's the most relevant part of the operation.

484
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Yeah.

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So, Chris, is 30 kilos, do you think,

486
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is that the maximum that one machine could dry at any one time,

487
00:37:17,738 --> 00:37:19,318
or could you push that?

488
00:37:20,078 --> 00:37:22,238
Well, now you took the words out of my mouth.

489
00:37:22,338 --> 00:37:22,518
Good.

490
00:37:23,278 --> 00:37:23,758
Perfect.

491
00:37:23,758 --> 00:37:27,158
No, see, the thing is that we haven't even been able

492
00:37:27,158 --> 00:37:30,758
to take out the full potential of this ant miner we have.

493
00:37:31,238 --> 00:37:33,419
Because as we added those filters,

494
00:37:33,998 --> 00:37:37,758
we have a HEPA-13 filter that takes all the particles

495
00:37:37,758 --> 00:37:42,098
and then we use an active carbon filter for all the fumes.

496
00:37:42,939 --> 00:37:47,978
So we can't push it to 100% or overclock it

497
00:37:47,978 --> 00:37:49,198
because it will choke.

498
00:37:50,439 --> 00:37:52,178
So I'm very excited.

499
00:37:52,338 --> 00:37:56,098
We've already had an evolution in technology

500
00:37:56,098 --> 00:37:59,038
regarding beef, but we started with a small freezer.

501
00:37:59,558 --> 00:38:02,598
We called that the beast.

502
00:38:04,698 --> 00:38:10,538
And that machine, it processed 15 kilos.

503
00:38:11,439 --> 00:38:14,538
And we had a certain amount of hashing there.

504
00:38:14,538 --> 00:38:21,218
And then I converted a larger freezer, which we call the Predator.

505
00:38:22,578 --> 00:38:25,598
And that can do 30 kilos.

506
00:38:26,098 --> 00:38:33,038
And my next vision is to do the hive where we have these rollers.

507
00:38:33,218 --> 00:38:39,058
We can roll into a room which is filled with three ant miners of air

508
00:38:39,058 --> 00:38:41,238
and do mass production.

509
00:38:42,638 --> 00:38:45,419
Mass production meaning how many kilos do you think?

510
00:38:45,718 --> 00:38:49,058
Would three miners be able to dry?

511
00:38:49,858 --> 00:38:51,419
And how short a time?

512
00:38:51,998 --> 00:38:53,658
It's impossible to tell.

513
00:38:53,658 --> 00:38:56,298
also in the fan power

514
00:38:56,298 --> 00:38:58,038
it's just an

515
00:38:58,038 --> 00:39:00,578
exciting experiment now to go

516
00:39:00,578 --> 00:39:01,838
onwards now

517
00:39:01,838 --> 00:39:04,318
so product wise

518
00:39:04,318 --> 00:39:05,838
I mean you've been doing this

519
00:39:05,838 --> 00:39:08,978
for god knows how many years

520
00:39:08,978 --> 00:39:10,478
you know a good product

521
00:39:10,478 --> 00:39:12,658
when you see and feel and taste

522
00:39:12,658 --> 00:39:12,959
one

523
00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:16,118
without being too much of a shill

524
00:39:16,118 --> 00:39:18,878
when you first

525
00:39:18,878 --> 00:39:20,459
did this

526
00:39:20,459 --> 00:39:22,959
and you got the finished product

527
00:39:22,959 --> 00:39:26,398
What did you think? What was going through your mind?

528
00:39:27,598 --> 00:39:31,278
Well, we've done this before with a regular drive.

529
00:39:31,278 --> 00:39:31,959
Okay.

530
00:39:32,498 --> 00:39:40,218
But I was excited about the opportunity to do it with the Bitcoin miner.

531
00:39:40,718 --> 00:39:43,498
And as I said, it pays for its own electricity.

532
00:39:44,498 --> 00:39:52,419
And also the opportunity to contribute to a non-fiat production.

533
00:39:52,959 --> 00:39:58,558
you know that's they the guys say that i've always been a bitcoiner i just didn't know it

534
00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:05,118
yes i mean that's that that's completely true like yeah

535
00:40:07,518 --> 00:40:10,238
six months later and he's already quoting memes and uh

536
00:40:13,919 --> 00:40:21,358
actually i we were in after the btc hell we were invited to lugano to plan b's conference and and

537
00:40:21,358 --> 00:40:26,558
And there I sort of got pretty orange peeled by Jimmy.

538
00:40:27,919 --> 00:40:29,358
Jimmy Song.

539
00:40:29,758 --> 00:40:30,218
Jimmy Song.

540
00:40:30,338 --> 00:40:30,439
Yeah.

541
00:40:31,979 --> 00:40:32,758
Of course.

542
00:40:33,038 --> 00:40:34,018
Another big carnivore.

543
00:40:34,118 --> 00:40:37,018
I'm sure he's a big fan and will be one day a big customer.

544
00:40:38,479 --> 00:40:38,678
Yeah.

545
00:40:38,698 --> 00:40:39,578
He was excited.

546
00:40:39,758 --> 00:40:41,959
I mean, there's a lot of carnivores in the community.

547
00:40:42,998 --> 00:40:43,518
Yeah.

548
00:40:44,178 --> 00:40:47,158
Well, and then just meat lovers in general, for sure.

549
00:40:48,118 --> 00:40:48,318
Yeah.

550
00:40:48,318 --> 00:40:52,538
The conferences seem to be...

551
00:40:52,538 --> 00:40:59,698
So we sold out in BTC Hell when we first did it as a...

552
00:40:59,698 --> 00:41:01,158
We didn't have a company or anything.

553
00:41:01,158 --> 00:41:04,298
We just produced the stuff, did a test run.

554
00:41:05,018 --> 00:41:12,158
I think, Chris, you produced something like 200 bags of the BFITs,

555
00:41:12,318 --> 00:41:12,678
something like that.

556
00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:14,018
For the first conference, yes.

557
00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:16,618
Yeah, and we sold out at the conference.

558
00:41:16,618 --> 00:41:23,419
So definitely Bitcoiners were curious about the product, wanted to taste, try the meat.

559
00:41:24,038 --> 00:41:30,338
And I think most of the people who tried the product actually liked the product as well.

560
00:41:31,038 --> 00:41:37,638
And for Lugano, we did a batch of 400 bags, something like that.

561
00:41:37,698 --> 00:41:39,919
So double the batch of.

562
00:41:39,944 --> 00:41:47,224
Foroita laitettiin Lugano myös Sain.

563
00:41:47,424 --> 00:41:52,744
Näillä lastenissä hyvin aloittain firmat On roomon vaikutusta

564
00:41:53,864 --> 00:41:58,244
pitkäkin kaupungassina

565
00:41:58,244 --> 00:42:02,184
Toreen k dazzleHA soldat

566
00:42:02,184 --> 00:42:04,224
Käyn v abovean

567
00:42:04,224 --> 00:42:22,404
They appreciate not just the fact that it's been hash dried with the Bitcoin miner, but also they like the product itself, like how it tastes like meat and how there is no fiat shit like sugar in it.

568
00:42:22,924 --> 00:42:24,524
And they appreciate that as well.

569
00:42:24,524 --> 00:42:29,824
People coming up and buying one bag at a time or is someone buying 10 bags or ship me a crate?

570
00:42:29,824 --> 00:42:34,224
We have whales that buy 21 bags.

571
00:42:35,404 --> 00:42:41,944
I mean, we actually do have some people who have bought 21 bags from the web shop.

572
00:42:42,644 --> 00:42:55,864
From the web shop, people don't usually buy singles because the shipping cost to ship to Europe is about 10 euros, 15 euros, depending on where we ship.

573
00:42:55,864 --> 00:43:04,404
In Finland, sometimes people buy in lower amounts because we ship from Finland, so the shipping cost is less.

574
00:43:05,604 --> 00:43:16,244
But I think at the moment, the most popular bundle that we sell through the webshop is either the five bundle or the ten bundle.

575
00:43:16,424 --> 00:43:18,444
So five bags or ten bags.

576
00:43:18,984 --> 00:43:21,584
And what's the price per bag? How are you pricing that?

577
00:43:21,584 --> 00:43:27,584
Pienoinen paikallinen paikallinen on 12.90 euroa,

578
00:43:27,584 --> 00:43:33,584
plus VAT, ja VAT on seuraava, että oletko sinut.

579
00:43:33,584 --> 00:43:38,584
For example, in Finland on 14% VAT on paikallinen,

580
00:43:38,584 --> 00:43:45,584
ja tämän paikallinen paikallinen paikallinen paikallinen paikallinen paikallinen paikallinen.

581
00:43:45,584 --> 00:43:48,584
Value-added-taikallinen paikallinen?

582
00:43:48,584 --> 00:43:50,184
What value did I add?

583
00:43:51,624 --> 00:43:52,864
Yeah, I mean...

584
00:43:52,864 --> 00:43:53,744
Always my question.

585
00:43:54,384 --> 00:43:54,664
Yeah.

586
00:43:55,464 --> 00:43:56,964
Where's the value that you added?

587
00:43:57,824 --> 00:43:58,864
Just causes problems.

588
00:43:59,504 --> 00:43:59,984
Yeah, yeah.

589
00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:01,304
It's a...

590
00:44:01,304 --> 00:44:04,344
I mean, it's a mess in the EU.

591
00:44:06,284 --> 00:44:08,584
But the price...

592
00:44:09,484 --> 00:44:11,824
I just want to make one point,

593
00:44:11,944 --> 00:44:13,464
which is related to the production

594
00:44:13,464 --> 00:44:15,524
and the product

595
00:44:15,524 --> 00:44:18,144
and comparing it to jerky.

596
00:44:18,584 --> 00:44:28,864
Muyовutferuin tekemisön kedeksi played on kessyt y du간inan keinem lottiut questi holemaisivat kaatko kiertii yh sayes on

597
00:44:28,864 --> 00:44:32,984
lasten kuinko..

598
00:44:32,984 --> 00:44:38,244
�Cojin on yhtävi riporat thanking yli taas trENsmseärä runninga kiertaa brokerskin

599
00:44:38,244 --> 00:44:47,024
250 g of raw beef that goes into producing a 100 g bag of jerky.

600
00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:56,104
But in our case, it's actually half a kilo of raw meat to produce 100 g of beef beets.

601
00:44:56,104 --> 00:45:14,104
So, since there is far less water in the end product, there is actually more meat, way more meat, double the meat in 100 gram bag of beef beets than there is in jerky.

602
00:45:14,104 --> 00:45:32,524
That's very right. Just to get some numbers, jerky is normally about 20% humidity and 5-7% sugars, where beef bits is less than 8% humidity and no sugars.

603
00:45:32,524 --> 00:45:39,104
So we use half a kilo of lean beef roast to create 100 grams of beef bits.

604
00:45:39,104 --> 00:45:41,104
Wow

605
00:45:41,104 --> 00:45:44,444
So for those people that are

606
00:45:44,444 --> 00:45:46,604
More conscious about protein

607
00:45:46,604 --> 00:45:48,884
And intake

608
00:45:48,884 --> 00:45:50,824
This has just got to be packed

609
00:45:50,824 --> 00:45:51,944
Full of the good stuff

610
00:45:51,944 --> 00:45:54,364
It's 93% protein

611
00:45:54,364 --> 00:45:56,684
93 grams in 100 grams

612
00:45:56,684 --> 00:45:57,644
Really?

613
00:45:58,204 --> 00:46:00,544
Yes, it's more than in those protein shakes

614
00:46:00,544 --> 00:46:01,224
You can buy

615
00:46:01,224 --> 00:46:05,164
93 grams per 100

616
00:46:05,164 --> 00:46:06,544
Can you eat a whole bag?

617
00:46:06,544 --> 00:46:11,444
Is this why people buy 21 bags at a time?

618
00:46:11,524 --> 00:46:12,804
Because they just sit down with a beer

619
00:46:12,804 --> 00:46:14,704
and before you know it, the whole bag's gone?

620
00:46:15,684 --> 00:46:16,284
You can.

621
00:46:16,644 --> 00:46:18,784
I mean, eating a small snack bag

622
00:46:18,784 --> 00:46:20,564
and you've eaten half a kilo of beef.

623
00:46:21,484 --> 00:46:24,004
Yeah, I mean, in Lugano,

624
00:46:24,204 --> 00:46:27,744
I think some people bought one bag as their lunch

625
00:46:27,744 --> 00:46:30,644
and they were full after the one bag

626
00:46:30,644 --> 00:46:34,944
because it's half a kilo of meat worth of energy

627
00:46:34,944 --> 00:46:36,124
in the one bag.

628
00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:41,724
Ja voit yhd monta energiaa pu었다 manettesä kotakas.

629
00:46:42,864 --> 00:46:47,344
EnnapaVI foristamu Hermille oli Luganna,

630
00:46:47,364 --> 00:46:52,724
kun jä�asseen seti infrastructure-mine.

631
00:46:52,924 --> 00:46:58,984
Sitten turin ensimmäinen jälkeä siihen on että roon 他 breakdowni,

632
00:46:59,104 --> 00:47:02,944
kanattaa kaivorenetään.

633
00:47:02,944 --> 00:47:09,164
So it's a really, really great product for that type of thing as well.

634
00:47:09,404 --> 00:47:12,284
Perfect thing as well to put in your kids like packed lunches.

635
00:47:12,464 --> 00:47:16,044
If they're at school or going out on trips or whatever else.

636
00:47:16,664 --> 00:47:21,944
Like it's so much better than like just your generic bag of chips or crisps.

637
00:47:22,084 --> 00:47:23,484
So I just full of shite.

638
00:47:24,424 --> 00:47:25,724
Yeah, absolutely.

639
00:47:25,724 --> 00:47:28,404
Like I absolutely.

640
00:47:28,404 --> 00:47:36,864
If your kid loves meat or likes meat, this is a product that you can absolutely give.

641
00:47:37,524 --> 00:47:41,484
So how do we get you guys...

642
00:47:41,484 --> 00:47:43,124
UK is a problem for you, right?

643
00:47:43,204 --> 00:47:44,584
You can't ship to us?

644
00:47:44,584 --> 00:47:44,764
Yeah.

645
00:47:45,284 --> 00:47:45,564
Right.

646
00:47:46,324 --> 00:47:54,104
No, I actually think we took a look because I think there was some sort of a Bitcoin Christmas shop

647
00:47:54,104 --> 00:47:58,844
that was supposed to be set up in UK before Christmas.

648
00:47:59,064 --> 00:48:01,584
And we took a look at the regulations at the moment.

649
00:48:01,764 --> 00:48:03,884
And at least before Christmas,

650
00:48:03,884 --> 00:48:08,724
it was the case that you couldn't even bring meat as an individual.

651
00:48:10,104 --> 00:48:12,104
It was all forbidden.

652
00:48:13,164 --> 00:48:21,404
Bringing meat from EU into UK was completely not allowed before Christmas.

653
00:48:21,404 --> 00:48:29,164
But we've heard that there's going to be some sort of Bitcoin conference in the UK or Ireland.

654
00:48:29,584 --> 00:48:30,324
Wink, wink.

655
00:48:31,264 --> 00:48:33,564
So that was my next question.

656
00:48:34,224 --> 00:48:35,024
Is that the idea?

657
00:48:35,184 --> 00:48:41,884
Just to get to as many conferences as you can with the product to get it out to, I mean, where's your market, right?

658
00:48:43,104 --> 00:48:46,284
Obviously, people have been eating biltong and jerky and whatever else.

659
00:48:46,284 --> 00:48:53,084
And Chris, you could probably sell it on, you know, without selling it under the brand of Bitcoin Beef Bits.

660
00:48:53,364 --> 00:48:55,924
Although obviously that is a gateway orange pill as well.

661
00:48:56,344 --> 00:48:57,384
Do you do that actually?

662
00:48:57,704 --> 00:49:06,284
Do you have two separate lines, just Beef Bits for like the normie people that walk in and not going to take a second look because it says Bitcoin on it?

663
00:49:07,044 --> 00:49:09,384
Not at the moment.

664
00:49:09,384 --> 00:49:17,584
Once we hooked up with Juho to make the Bitcoin beef, which we kind of private labeled it,

665
00:49:17,664 --> 00:49:20,704
and everything that comes in this way is...

666
00:49:20,704 --> 00:49:24,364
But we have other products, though, and know that meat market.

667
00:49:24,784 --> 00:49:29,184
But I just want to add one thing, what we talked earlier about, the use.

668
00:49:29,304 --> 00:49:31,664
I mean, the healthy snack and all that.

669
00:49:32,664 --> 00:49:38,724
That's only one way to use the beef bits, because as it's not fried, it's dehydrated.

670
00:49:38,724 --> 00:49:44,264
means that it will resume its soft form as meat once hydrated.

671
00:49:44,984 --> 00:49:48,384
And therefore, it's a perfect survival food.

672
00:49:48,544 --> 00:49:50,684
It lasts in room temperature forever.

673
00:49:51,024 --> 00:49:54,604
You just add hot water or broth and you have a meat soup.

674
00:49:54,604 --> 00:49:58,464
Or you throw it in a broth and cook it for a longer time, you have a stew.

675
00:49:59,184 --> 00:50:02,024
So this is the ultimate survival food.

676
00:50:02,504 --> 00:50:06,764
Or if you want to prepare for Armageddon, it's good to have it in your closets.

677
00:50:07,164 --> 00:50:08,644
So now I love it.

678
00:50:08,724 --> 00:50:11,024
You're talking to the preppers as well as the Bitcoiners.

679
00:50:11,544 --> 00:50:17,164
It's of course a big crossover of those two groups.

680
00:50:17,904 --> 00:50:18,264
Yeah, yeah.

681
00:50:18,344 --> 00:50:24,544
And that's like one of the, when we were talking about the fat in jerky,

682
00:50:24,544 --> 00:50:30,524
that's one of the key aspects is that Bitcoin BeefBits is actually shelf stable

683
00:50:30,524 --> 00:50:37,604
and will stay good for, I don't know, I don't know how many years can we promise, Chris?

684
00:50:37,604 --> 00:50:39,604
I can't promise anything.

685
00:50:40,584 --> 00:50:47,864
But in practice, if you keep it dry, if you store it well, it'll stay good for a really long time.

686
00:50:48,284 --> 00:50:50,504
Just basically keep it in the packet and you're good to go.

687
00:50:51,124 --> 00:50:51,324
Yeah.

688
00:50:51,724 --> 00:51:03,152
And even if you open it it okay unless it gets very humid Moisture yeah Moisture yeah Because of the low content in the end product

689
00:51:03,652 --> 00:51:05,912
So what's the other 7% then, Chris?

690
00:51:06,012 --> 00:51:08,452
Because you're not adding anything, as you've said.

691
00:51:08,552 --> 00:51:09,872
You're just drying out the meat.

692
00:51:09,952 --> 00:51:11,212
It's 93% protein.

693
00:51:11,212 --> 00:51:15,132
The other 7%, what's that made up of?

694
00:51:15,132 --> 00:51:26,212
3% salt and 4% is very thick collagen.

695
00:51:27,512 --> 00:51:27,892
Right.

696
00:51:28,472 --> 00:51:28,852
Yeah.

697
00:51:29,352 --> 00:51:29,932
Collagen.

698
00:51:30,472 --> 00:51:32,412
That's what all the women want these days.

699
00:51:35,112 --> 00:51:36,812
That's why we have the broth.

700
00:51:37,392 --> 00:51:37,732
Right.

701
00:51:37,892 --> 00:51:38,732
In the broth.

702
00:51:38,732 --> 00:51:39,032
Yeah.

703
00:51:39,032 --> 00:51:47,812
like to use this to make a broth because uh my wife uh is very up on this kind of stuff like uh

704
00:51:47,812 --> 00:51:52,192
you know listens to all of the that there's actually a great podcast you guys should go on

705
00:51:52,192 --> 00:51:55,812
called um if they're doing interviews with guests but i don't think they have yet it's called the

706
00:51:55,812 --> 00:52:04,312
healthy bit and um yeah a couple of uh two british bitcoiners that uh that are doing that one and

707
00:52:04,312 --> 00:52:08,452
yeah so check that out follow them and reach out and let them know about your product

708
00:52:08,452 --> 00:52:15,372
because yeah um you know like collagen is so good for so many different things so in

709
00:52:15,372 --> 00:52:19,972
one packet and salt obviously salt is there for the electrolytes and whatever

710
00:52:19,972 --> 00:52:28,632
this is like the elixir of life guys like the ultimate like biohacking anti-aging

711
00:52:28,632 --> 00:52:37,172
and you know dried with hash power love it you're gonna get to the biohacking events next

712
00:52:37,172 --> 00:52:56,712
As well. I mean, the biohacking is actually a part of our butcher shop philosophy anyway. We are nose to tail and zero waste butchery. So as we get the full bodies from the producers and the slaughterhouses, with it comes the full set with organs.

713
00:52:56,712 --> 00:53:06,792
so what we do we we we we render the fat we make rendered beef tallow from the bones we cook broth

714
00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:13,912
and in every single part of the meat is used and even those parts from the organs which are not put

715
00:53:13,912 --> 00:53:19,552
into our ground beef we make ground beef with liver kidney heart and bone marrow even the beef

716
00:53:19,552 --> 00:53:22,552
testicles we use in ground beef.

717
00:53:23,152 --> 00:53:27,572
And those parts which we don't use for human food, so-called,

718
00:53:27,632 --> 00:53:29,032
we make dog food.

719
00:53:29,652 --> 00:53:34,512
So the only thing we throw away from the whole body are the bones

720
00:53:34,512 --> 00:53:35,932
after we've cooked the broth.

721
00:53:37,732 --> 00:53:41,032
So the dog food, what wouldn't be?

722
00:53:42,232 --> 00:53:44,732
That would be the cartilage and all that kind of stuff, I'm assuming.

723
00:53:45,512 --> 00:53:48,692
And the real tissue, the sinus, ligaments.

724
00:53:49,552 --> 00:54:04,372
Yes, pretty much. There's 30% lungs, 30% fat and ligaments, and 30% beef, meat in the dog food.

725
00:54:06,512 --> 00:54:15,252
And I just love that Koti Tila, like Chris's shop, has this no waste thing going on with the meat.

726
00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:26,592
And then we combine it with the no-waste idea of capturing the heat from the miner, because that's kind of a no-waste thing too.

727
00:54:27,072 --> 00:54:39,452
So I just like the idea that those two no-waste policies kind of merge at the end product here.

728
00:54:39,452 --> 00:54:45,812
So the first thing I'm thinking right now is any of the conference organizers that are listening should get involved in touch.

729
00:54:46,892 --> 00:54:52,952
But here's the problem, though, because if you want a booth, you have to pay up front for that booth.

730
00:54:53,072 --> 00:54:55,532
And some of these conferences can charge thousands for that.

731
00:54:58,472 --> 00:55:05,332
I mean, it's a great thing to have on display and the audience will love it.

732
00:55:05,332 --> 00:55:23,732
So we do feel that if there are conferences out there that would like to have us, they might want to give us a little discount on the booth just because it's such a cool thing to put on display at the conferences.

733
00:55:23,972 --> 00:55:30,172
The other thing I'm thinking along these lines right now would be that they're perfect to slip in the goodie bags, right?

734
00:55:30,172 --> 00:55:37,272
for um you know every conference hands out some kind of goodie bag of some sort and sometimes uh

735
00:55:37,272 --> 00:55:43,572
even vip ones um have slightly more things in whatever else there's goodie bags usually

736
00:55:43,572 --> 00:55:47,912
thousands of them has anyone ever contacted you about uh about that because it seems to me like

737
00:55:47,912 --> 00:55:54,112
this would be the perfect the perfect product and if you'll do if someone's ordering like say

738
00:55:54,112 --> 00:56:00,592
3 000 bags you could obviously do some kind of deal i'm assuming it's not going to be uh the retail

739
00:56:00,592 --> 00:56:07,612
price yeah obviously if somebody's uh ordering that kind of volume we can discuss the price it

740
00:56:07,612 --> 00:56:12,992
doesn't have to be the retail price for chris can you can you knock up 3 000 bags how long is that

741
00:56:12,992 --> 00:56:21,292
going to take you anytime now another aspect is also i mean these are awesome like company gifts

742
00:56:21,292 --> 00:56:30,712
So if a company wants to buy a stack and hand out gifts to their customers, which are related in the Bitcoin scene or anything, that's an opportunity as well.

743
00:56:31,092 --> 00:56:36,272
We can do marketing campaigns on our bags and handouts as well.

744
00:56:38,392 --> 00:56:48,272
Yeah, for the Plan B conference in Lugano, we actually did kind of a special edition packaging for them.

745
00:56:48,272 --> 00:56:56,512
some pictures from the local scene, like the Satoshi statue that they have at the conference,

746
00:56:56,512 --> 00:57:02,032
and we labeled it as a Genesis edition for the conference.

747
00:57:02,032 --> 00:57:10,432
It had a cool design different from the regular package that we sell online at the moment.

748
00:57:10,432 --> 00:57:14,552
but yeah I mean definitely

749
00:57:14,552 --> 00:57:16,872
if people want to give them

750
00:57:16,872 --> 00:57:19,072
out as in gift

751
00:57:19,072 --> 00:57:20,952
packs or as corporate

752
00:57:20,952 --> 00:57:22,792
gifts we do have

753
00:57:22,792 --> 00:57:25,012
some people who we know

754
00:57:25,012 --> 00:57:26,972
have bought them from

755
00:57:26,972 --> 00:57:28,692
the online shop just to give

756
00:57:28,692 --> 00:57:30,312
their customers

757
00:57:30,312 --> 00:57:32,352
so as gifts

758
00:57:32,352 --> 00:57:35,192
before the Christmas

759
00:57:35,192 --> 00:57:36,832
I guess

760
00:57:36,832 --> 00:57:37,652
a few

761
00:57:37,652 --> 00:57:41,212
Can I float you a marketing idea, a gimmick?

762
00:57:41,772 --> 00:57:42,092
Sure.

763
00:57:42,672 --> 00:57:56,712
A Willy Wonka-style marketing idea whereby you would, in a certain, every other like 100 bags or something, you would just drop in a little gift like 21,000 sats, a lucky winner.

764
00:57:58,372 --> 00:58:02,792
Because that would incentivize somebody to open the bag rather than prep with it.

765
00:58:03,532 --> 00:58:05,312
One funny thing.

766
00:58:05,312 --> 00:58:08,272
I mean, we talked about Martti earlier, right?

767
00:58:08,672 --> 00:58:08,852
Yeah.

768
00:58:09,492 --> 00:58:14,712
And Martti came to the butchery to cut with me one day.

769
00:58:15,772 --> 00:58:20,732
And from that cow for the Genesis edition,

770
00:58:21,352 --> 00:58:25,552
we had a couple of nuggets from the beef Martti cut.

771
00:58:26,852 --> 00:58:30,212
So there was a little Willy Wonka thingy there going on.

772
00:58:31,072 --> 00:58:31,352
Yeah.

773
00:58:31,812 --> 00:58:34,372
And we still have some of those bags left.

774
00:58:34,372 --> 00:58:37,932
I think at the online shop,

775
00:58:38,032 --> 00:58:39,812
if somebody wants to find

776
00:58:39,812 --> 00:58:44,772
a Marty Malamy golden nugget in a bag.

777
00:58:47,972 --> 00:58:49,052
What's next then?

778
00:58:49,192 --> 00:58:52,112
Obviously, 2026 is get out there,

779
00:58:52,192 --> 00:58:54,052
hit the conferences, get the word out,

780
00:58:54,192 --> 00:58:55,512
get on some more podcasts,

781
00:58:56,112 --> 00:58:57,152
do all the things.

782
00:58:58,612 --> 00:59:01,552
But what are the plans?

783
00:59:01,552 --> 00:59:03,872
Do you have a clear vision of stages

784
00:59:03,872 --> 00:59:06,572
that you want to take and goals that you want to hit?

785
00:59:06,752 --> 00:59:09,272
Or is this kind of like, let's throw shit against the wall

786
00:59:09,272 --> 00:59:10,192
and see what happens now?

787
00:59:11,472 --> 00:59:17,452
I mean, the plan is to get, well, the online shop going, obviously.

788
00:59:17,452 --> 00:59:22,352
So we need to get the word out there that the product exists

789
00:59:22,352 --> 00:59:25,512
and we need to get people try and taste it

790
00:59:25,512 --> 00:59:28,832
because genuinely it's a really, really good product.

791
00:59:28,832 --> 00:59:36,832
So the problem with the online shop is that people rarely order one bag.

792
00:59:36,832 --> 00:59:49,832
So it's kind of if you haven't tasted the product like this, it's a little hard to bootstrap the webshop without going to conferences.

793
00:59:49,832 --> 01:00:39,919
conferences So that one thing that we are going to go do So just meet people where they are physically present and we can give out beef bits for tasting so that people know that this exists and it a great product And hopefully they then have the guts to order a bigger batch from the online shop But we also looking for retailers So So if somebody wants to have Bitcoin beef bits in their whatever be it a Bitcoin shop or be it a some sort of a prepper shop or let say outdoors shop then we are looking for those as well

794
01:00:39,919 --> 01:00:49,239
So kind of reaching other target audiences, not just Bitcoiners over this year.

795
01:00:49,799 --> 01:01:02,759
And that kind of to go back, I wanted to touch the point on do we label it just beef bits for the normies, which probably would kind of make sense.

796
01:01:02,759 --> 01:01:12,019
But at the same time, I kind of like the idea that we can sell something to the normies that has Bitcoin on them, on the product.

797
01:01:12,339 --> 01:01:20,239
So that's a way of introducing Bitcoin in a sly roundabout way to the normies.

798
01:01:20,439 --> 01:01:21,779
So I like the idea.

799
01:01:21,939 --> 01:01:30,239
If we can do that, then I think we could maybe try and keep the Bitcoin on the packaging, even if we're selling to the normies.

800
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:37,719
you could always put it in the small print i guess yeah maybe this product has been made using

801
01:01:37,719 --> 01:01:45,319
you know the residual heat from uh bitcoin mining machines uh yeah there's i mean people listening

802
01:01:45,319 --> 01:01:50,979
to this are going to have such a ton of ideas so i urge anybody listening right now just to reach

803
01:01:50,979 --> 01:01:56,979
out to you ho or chris and um with your ideas with your skill sets maybe there are some people

804
01:01:56,979 --> 01:02:01,139
working in retail that are close to the decision maker

805
01:02:01,139 --> 01:02:03,359
that might be able to start stocking your product.

806
01:02:03,739 --> 01:02:07,419
Whatever it is, it's essential that you reach out.

807
01:02:08,759 --> 01:02:16,799
Chris, do you do experiences like learn how to butcher half an animal

808
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:21,199
or anything like that that people can come and pay in sats with at your shop?

809
01:02:21,959 --> 01:02:24,719
Yeah, we actually accept Bitcoin at the shop now.

810
01:02:24,719 --> 01:02:26,919
Juho and the team set us up

811
01:02:26,919 --> 01:02:29,279
so we accept both in the store

812
01:02:29,279 --> 01:02:30,119
and online

813
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:31,799
Are you on BTC Maps?

814
01:02:32,499 --> 01:02:34,899
Are you on BTC Maps? Yes you are?

815
01:02:34,899 --> 01:02:36,239
Okay, good

816
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:37,839
Thank you

817
01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:40,219
Nathan would have killed me if I didn't ask that

818
01:02:40,219 --> 01:02:42,819
We do, we sell

819
01:02:42,819 --> 01:02:44,799
like a whole

820
01:02:44,799 --> 01:02:45,879
or half a cow

821
01:02:45,879 --> 01:02:48,899
to people and they're allowed to join

822
01:02:48,899 --> 01:02:50,559
to cut, to see, to do

823
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,059
We haven't been doing courses

824
01:02:53,059 --> 01:02:53,699
yet

825
01:02:53,699 --> 01:03:02,279
But I mean, it's doable. Whoever wants to come in and learn, you know, as Martti, he just came and we did it.

826
01:03:03,239 --> 01:03:07,699
So maybe we could convince Martti to be part of that course.

827
01:03:07,999 --> 01:03:17,539
So come join us. Come join Martti at the butchery at Kotitila's shop in Kalasatama and cut meat with Martti.

828
01:03:17,539 --> 01:03:43,379
Well, it's doable. But then when you asked about 26, what plans and production wise, I'm going to experiment on increasing production capacity. I'm interested in that to prepare. I mean, we're not there yet that we would need a ton of beef bits, but I'm very interested in preparing that.

829
01:03:43,379 --> 01:03:46,079
and the recipe is there.

830
01:03:46,359 --> 01:03:47,479
It's good to go.

831
01:03:47,479 --> 01:03:49,319
And as mentioned earlier,

832
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:56,499
I'm not capable of providing beef to the whole world.

833
01:03:57,519 --> 01:03:59,319
So therefore, I mean, there's an interest

834
01:03:59,319 --> 01:04:03,559
to discuss licensing production

835
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:07,119
so people can support their own local beef production,

836
01:04:07,659 --> 01:04:11,059
either in the UK or in the US or wherever.

837
01:04:11,059 --> 01:04:21,519
So first thing, Texas Slim is coming to mind with his beef initiative over in the US because he's very, very close to all of the ranchers.

838
01:04:21,619 --> 01:04:23,619
Well, not all, but many of the ranchers out there.

839
01:04:23,739 --> 01:04:25,999
And there's huge mining out there in Texas.

840
01:04:26,759 --> 01:04:29,439
So that's the first person I'm thinking of right now.

841
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:32,859
So once this is released, I'll send him the link and make sure he has a listen.

842
01:04:32,859 --> 01:04:36,919
and if there's an interest from his end

843
01:04:36,919 --> 01:04:40,699
where they could perhaps even fly you guys out,

844
01:04:40,839 --> 01:04:42,779
give a talk, show everybody how to do it,

845
01:04:42,999 --> 01:04:44,599
give out some tastings.

846
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:47,799
This is how we collaborate in the Bitcoin space

847
01:04:47,799 --> 01:04:49,639
and just push this stuff forward,

848
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:51,279
which is so nice to see

849
01:04:51,279 --> 01:04:53,319
because generally in fiat world,

850
01:04:53,399 --> 01:04:55,979
you'd be like trying to patent the idea

851
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:57,899
to make sure no other butcher in the world

852
01:04:57,899 --> 01:05:01,079
could ever do it to your degree of success.

853
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:09,259
you know it's uh this is this turns everything upside down i love it excellent all right guys

854
01:05:09,259 --> 01:05:14,499
where can people reach out to you what's the best uh i'll put your twitter handles up and

855
01:05:14,499 --> 01:05:24,699
everything else but is there a more direct way i mean if they're interested in the product like

856
01:05:24,699 --> 01:05:30,879
bitcoin beef bits or just have ideas related to the product then i guess the easiest is to

857
01:05:30,879 --> 01:05:32,799
shoot an email to hello at

858
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:34,579
bitcoinbeefbits.com

859
01:05:34,579 --> 01:05:37,179
we all get that mail

860
01:05:37,179 --> 01:05:38,579
then if

861
01:05:38,579 --> 01:05:40,359
they want to find me

862
01:05:40,359 --> 01:05:42,499
on x or twitter

863
01:05:42,499 --> 01:05:44,139
that's juho

864
01:05:44,139 --> 01:05:44,999
uhonen

865
01:05:44,999 --> 01:05:48,839
so just put the handle in the show notes

866
01:05:48,839 --> 01:05:50,659
yeah i'm sure people

867
01:05:50,659 --> 01:05:51,979
didn't get that from me

868
01:05:51,979 --> 01:05:54,679
pronouncing my name but it's just my

869
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:56,839
name my first name and last name

870
01:05:56,839 --> 01:05:57,559
on twitter

871
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:00,179
and i'm the btc butcher

872
01:06:00,179 --> 01:06:08,319
btc butcher on x yeah yeah or twitter uh the btc butcher

873
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:19,199
three is it the btc butcher no no btc butcher btc butcher right okay cool all right guys final

874
01:06:19,199 --> 01:06:24,639
question if you had one last orange pill left to give to somebody who would you give it to and why

875
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:32,139
one last orange pill

876
01:06:32,139 --> 01:06:34,279
to give to somebody

877
01:06:34,279 --> 01:06:37,019
I don't know

878
01:06:37,019 --> 01:06:40,119
I would probably give it to

879
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:40,599
some

880
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:43,899
close friend who is not

881
01:06:43,899 --> 01:06:45,359
orange pill yet

882
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:47,319
just because I want to

883
01:06:47,319 --> 01:06:52,259
I just want to

884
01:06:52,259 --> 01:06:52,619
give

885
01:06:52,619 --> 01:06:57,599
to those people who are closest to me

886
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:01,559
and tell them if they are interested about Bitcoin.

887
01:07:03,939 --> 01:07:06,219
Maybe there would be more impact

888
01:07:06,219 --> 01:07:09,159
if I gave the one final orange bill

889
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:12,899
to somebody who's rich like a billionaire.

890
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:14,459
I don't know.

891
01:07:14,979 --> 01:07:18,199
But I just would give it to a close friend of mine

892
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:19,979
who is not yet orange billed.

893
01:07:20,859 --> 01:07:21,979
Perfect. Chris?

894
01:07:22,619 --> 01:07:30,179
I would give it to my wife so she would get more involved and more supportive and understand where we're going.

895
01:07:30,759 --> 01:07:31,739
Can she hear us right now?

896
01:07:32,419 --> 01:07:33,159
Not yet.

897
01:07:33,459 --> 01:07:33,639
Okay.

898
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:37,739
It's still early days, my friend.

899
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:40,639
It's taken some of us years to orange pill our partners.

900
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:42,019
So, you know.

901
01:07:42,099 --> 01:07:46,939
Yeah, I mean, you can't really force anybody to take the orange pill.

902
01:07:46,939 --> 01:07:49,499
they really need to

903
01:07:49,499 --> 01:07:51,779
want to take the orange pill

904
01:07:51,779 --> 01:07:53,459
and absorb the information

905
01:07:53,459 --> 01:07:56,119
so just giving the orange pill

906
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:57,539
to somebody isn't a thing

907
01:07:57,539 --> 01:07:59,559
it's more of a discussion

908
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:00,939
my best advice

909
01:08:00,939 --> 01:08:03,839
is get her along to as many

910
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:05,539
of the conferences that you possibly can

911
01:08:05,539 --> 01:08:07,799
because actions speak louder

912
01:08:07,799 --> 01:08:09,499
than words and when you actually see

913
01:08:09,499 --> 01:08:11,799
the people and speak to the people

914
01:08:11,799 --> 01:08:13,899
that's what's got a lot

915
01:08:13,899 --> 01:08:15,519
of partners and

916
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:23,599
families and extended families over the line uh btc hell we should chill you hope before we leave

917
01:08:23,599 --> 01:08:29,199
and uh let everybody know when btc hell is going to be next year

918
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:37,159
just gonna mute you got muted

919
01:08:37,159 --> 01:08:49,399
yeah so btc health it was a really great success last year in august i think people really loved

920
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:58,139
coming to the conference they liked helsinki they liked the uh the speakers they liked the

921
01:08:58,139 --> 01:09:04,299
the all of the sponsors who had a booth there so it was a really really really great experience

922
01:09:04,299 --> 01:09:07,399
and I think you can go and see an after movie

923
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:11,059
on the btchel.com website

924
01:09:11,059 --> 01:09:13,979
of the last year's conference.

925
01:09:14,199 --> 01:09:17,619
And this year's conference is going to be in September.

926
01:09:18,419 --> 01:09:20,559
So it's going to be, I think,

927
01:09:21,659 --> 01:09:23,679
it's not the last week of September,

928
01:09:23,859 --> 01:09:25,659
but the week before that, I think.

929
01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:28,539
Now I don't remember the exact dates,

930
01:09:28,659 --> 01:09:46,646
but it going to be late September this year So definitely if you like going to conferences or if you missed the first one come to bpc hell this year it be great yeah i can confirm because i got it blocked out i

931
01:09:46,646 --> 01:09:53,606
got 24th to 27th of september blocked on my calendar and yeah we hope to get there again

932
01:09:53,606 --> 01:10:00,606
if not all of us then certainly myself and uh my wife and maybe some of the kids but uh

933
01:10:00,606 --> 01:10:11,687
And I'm pretty sure, and I'll double check with Luke, the code BITN, B-I-T-T-E-N, should still be running for a 10% discount on ticket purchases.

934
01:10:12,106 --> 01:10:13,687
But that's something.

935
01:10:13,906 --> 01:10:18,146
So if anybody listening wants to go to BTC Health, try and purchase the ticket using the code BITN.

936
01:10:18,206 --> 01:10:23,746
If it doesn't work, get back to me and I'll chat with Luke or Yuho and get that sorted out.

937
01:10:23,746 --> 01:10:34,646
Yeah, and on the subject of discount codes, I just generated the discount code for BitcoinBeefBits.com as well.

938
01:10:35,006 --> 01:10:37,006
So Bitten works there as well.

939
01:10:37,687 --> 01:10:48,687
You get a 21% discount on your purchase and that will be available to the 100 first people to use the code.

940
01:10:49,006 --> 01:10:49,906
That's amazing.

941
01:10:50,346 --> 01:10:51,626
Well, thank you so much.

942
01:10:51,946 --> 01:10:53,386
That's really, really nice.

943
01:10:53,386 --> 01:10:57,726
So, right, anyone listening, go out, get your 100 bags, 21% discount, go.

944
01:10:58,386 --> 01:10:59,986
Prep, prep like crazy.

945
01:11:00,426 --> 01:11:03,086
And I just realized, Chris, I forgot to ask you some geeky questions,

946
01:11:03,086 --> 01:11:04,546
so I won't let you go just yet.

947
01:11:05,187 --> 01:11:05,466
Go ahead.

948
01:11:05,986 --> 01:11:06,766
The salt.

949
01:11:07,406 --> 01:11:09,626
What salt do you use and why?

950
01:11:10,266 --> 01:11:15,687
It's unpurified Atlantic sea salt gathered in Portugal,

951
01:11:17,326 --> 01:11:20,026
and it's Celle d'Atlantique.

952
01:11:20,026 --> 01:11:25,806
the least processed salt available.

953
01:11:27,406 --> 01:11:27,966
Perfect.

954
01:11:28,966 --> 01:11:29,806
Breed.

955
01:11:30,226 --> 01:11:32,466
What breed of animal are you using?

956
01:11:32,466 --> 01:11:38,546
We only use beef cows as we don't get any dairy cows.

957
01:11:39,466 --> 01:11:47,026
So we use Hereford, Angus, Charolais, Cimental, proper beef cattle.

958
01:11:48,106 --> 01:11:49,966
So no dairy cattle.

959
01:11:50,026 --> 01:11:59,946
no derrick no bovire no bovire of course that's the so what what did you call them capos is it

960
01:11:59,946 --> 01:12:08,006
what oh cattle you said cattle cattle yeah cattle right okay so is there marketing gimmick

961
01:12:08,006 --> 01:12:09,586
in here as well for the bull?

962
01:12:11,426 --> 01:12:12,466
Not actually.

963
01:12:14,086 --> 01:12:16,026
It's just as we run

964
01:12:16,026 --> 01:12:18,346
our shop, I prefer

965
01:12:18,346 --> 01:12:20,006
high fat

966
01:12:20,006 --> 01:12:23,546
good yield beef

967
01:12:23,546 --> 01:12:25,806
with a nice marble.

968
01:12:27,546 --> 01:12:28,186
And therefore,

969
01:12:29,146 --> 01:12:30,226
since we started

970
01:12:30,226 --> 01:12:31,586
the Bitcoin beef,

971
01:12:31,586 --> 01:12:33,067
we sold around

972
01:12:33,067 --> 01:12:35,327
1,200 bags,

973
01:12:35,327 --> 01:12:37,246
which

974
01:12:37,246 --> 01:12:39,026
and as we cut

975
01:12:39,026 --> 01:12:41,327
those cuts we use for the beef bits

976
01:12:41,327 --> 01:12:43,186
we get around 20 to

977
01:12:43,186 --> 01:12:44,926
30 kilos per cow

978
01:12:44,926 --> 01:12:47,606
of material

979
01:12:47,606 --> 01:12:48,827
for the beef bits

980
01:12:48,827 --> 01:12:51,466
and that leans

981
01:12:51,466 --> 01:12:53,526
up to us already cutting

982
01:12:53,526 --> 01:12:55,126
around 30 cows

983
01:12:55,126 --> 01:12:56,966
for those sales

984
01:12:56,966 --> 01:12:59,626
that we use for the beef bits

985
01:12:59,626 --> 01:13:01,406
of course it's just a small

986
01:13:01,406 --> 01:13:03,606
part of the animal which are used

987
01:13:03,606 --> 01:13:05,006
for the beef bits but still

988
01:13:05,006 --> 01:13:07,646
it's an interesting number

989
01:13:07,646 --> 01:13:09,126
it's bullish

990
01:13:09,126 --> 01:13:10,906
it's bullish

991
01:13:10,906 --> 01:13:13,546
maximizing

992
01:13:13,546 --> 01:13:14,946
pun intended

993
01:13:14,946 --> 01:13:15,966
yeah

994
01:13:15,966 --> 01:13:19,827
right okay any final thoughts

995
01:13:19,827 --> 01:13:21,226
lads before we shut this one down

996
01:13:21,226 --> 01:13:24,006
thank you

997
01:13:24,006 --> 01:13:24,827
for having us

998
01:13:24,827 --> 01:13:27,086
I mean this is the time to

999
01:13:27,086 --> 01:13:29,126
spread the word

1000
01:13:29,126 --> 01:13:30,946
and we're thankful

1001
01:13:30,946 --> 01:13:32,866
you're welcome

1002
01:13:32,866 --> 01:13:33,346
Juho?

1003
01:13:34,226 --> 01:13:36,426
Yeah, I mean, just...

1004
01:13:36,426 --> 01:13:39,206
I like the product myself.

1005
01:13:39,506 --> 01:13:42,106
So I'm going to just chill one more time.

1006
01:13:42,686 --> 01:13:45,646
If you want to have a healthy snack,

1007
01:13:46,206 --> 01:13:46,886
try it out.

1008
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:49,206
It's a really, really great product.

1009
01:13:50,266 --> 01:13:51,606
Just beef and salt.

1010
01:13:52,366 --> 01:13:55,306
No fiat shit at all.

1011
01:13:56,246 --> 01:13:56,666
Love it.

1012
01:13:57,186 --> 01:13:58,626
It's the Bitcoin way.

1013
01:13:59,726 --> 01:14:00,606
Only way to do it.

1014
01:14:00,606 --> 01:14:05,606
Well, thank you so much, guys, for everything that you've achieved and everything you're doing.

1015
01:14:05,786 --> 01:14:07,486
And I'll be watching this one closely.

1016
01:14:07,606 --> 01:14:09,706
Really looking forward to seeing you again in Helsinki.

1017
01:14:09,866 --> 01:14:12,306
Hope to see you at another conference before then.

1018
01:14:12,926 --> 01:14:15,786
And then taste the product again.

1019
01:14:16,306 --> 01:14:19,706
I got a taste in Helsinki last year.

1020
01:14:20,486 --> 01:14:25,966
And hopefully one day somebody can figure out how to get you shipping across to the UK.

1021
01:14:26,446 --> 01:14:29,366
Bitcoin is a very good solve of problems.

1022
01:14:29,366 --> 01:14:37,827
I think like if there is somebody who wants to import like a business that wants to import

1023
01:14:37,827 --> 01:14:43,746
the PiffBits into UK you can do it that way but you need to go through the regulatory hoops

1024
01:14:43,746 --> 01:14:52,827
and just apply for some stuff and at least so far we haven't found anybody who will be

1025
01:14:52,827 --> 01:14:59,286
willing to go through those. We'll figure it out we'll figure it out we go we go we

1026
01:14:59,286 --> 01:15:03,246
We got a good community over here, some problem solvers.

1027
01:15:03,746 --> 01:15:04,827
We'll get back to you.

1028
01:15:05,706 --> 01:15:06,106
Perfect.

1029
01:15:06,406 --> 01:15:07,386
That would be great.

1030
01:15:07,926 --> 01:15:08,406
All right, lads.

1031
01:15:08,586 --> 01:15:10,126
Well, have a great day, and thanks for coming on.

1032
01:15:10,886 --> 01:15:11,466
Thank you.

1033
01:15:11,646 --> 01:15:12,186
Take care.

1034
01:15:12,327 --> 01:15:12,666
Thank you.

1035
01:15:12,686 --> 01:15:13,226
See you soon.

1036
01:15:13,366 --> 01:15:14,026
Thanks for having us.

1037
01:15:14,386 --> 01:15:14,706
See you.

1038
01:15:16,186 --> 01:15:17,327
Well, there you go, guys.

1039
01:15:17,426 --> 01:15:20,286
Thank you again, Juho and Chris, for coming on.

1040
01:15:20,286 --> 01:15:22,866
Thanks for all the hard work you're putting in there.

1041
01:15:23,006 --> 01:15:29,226
It's an incredible story to listen to again and again and again.

1042
01:15:29,286 --> 01:15:36,306
because the way you can use the heat from a Bitcoin miner

1043
01:15:36,306 --> 01:15:40,046
to walk into a butchery to sell them on the idea of,

1044
01:15:40,166 --> 01:15:42,946
hey, we can make a product and stack sets

1045
01:15:42,946 --> 01:15:47,567
and draw in completely new customer base for you.

1046
01:15:48,147 --> 01:15:51,266
And the fact that Marty Malmy was one of their customers

1047
01:15:51,266 --> 01:15:55,606
and he wasn't aware, the butcher wasn't aware.

1048
01:15:56,966 --> 01:15:59,046
It's just, what a great story.

1049
01:15:59,286 --> 01:16:05,606
And BTC Hell, get over to BTC Hell, look at the dates, get them in your diary.

1050
01:16:05,986 --> 01:16:08,686
You can use the code BITTON for that 10% discount.

1051
01:16:08,986 --> 01:16:13,986
It's coming up, it's going to be September, so just after all of the summer holidays and breaks.

1052
01:16:14,647 --> 01:16:17,106
And yeah, it's going to be great to see everybody over there.

1053
01:16:17,206 --> 01:16:22,726
We are definitely planning, we're planning to be there.

1054
01:16:22,866 --> 01:16:27,127
So I'm looking forward to some more beef bits for sure.

1055
01:16:27,127 --> 01:16:29,266
and use the code BITTON.

1056
01:16:29,666 --> 01:16:31,346
Get your 21% discount.

1057
01:16:31,706 --> 01:16:32,746
Support the guys.

1058
01:16:33,346 --> 01:16:34,706
Please support the guys.

1059
01:16:34,846 --> 01:16:37,546
And if you've been inspired from anywhere around the world,

1060
01:16:37,647 --> 01:16:38,986
let's make this a thing.

1061
01:16:39,106 --> 01:16:43,906
I hope Texas Slim is listening from the Beef Initiative over there.

1062
01:16:44,846 --> 01:16:49,266
You know, he started off that Beef Initiative many moons ago.

1063
01:16:49,266 --> 01:16:50,906
He put the boots on the ground.

1064
01:16:51,026 --> 01:16:51,846
He put in the work.

1065
01:16:51,926 --> 01:16:54,606
He went around and he shook the rancher's hands.

1066
01:16:55,147 --> 01:16:56,906
He explained what was going on.

1067
01:16:56,906 --> 01:17:03,386
with the food industry explain how bitcoin fixes this and yet now he's got beef.com that's been

1068
01:17:03,386 --> 01:17:10,666
acquired and he's going to be building out this global network to get everybody eating real food

1069
01:17:10,666 --> 01:17:18,266
again and bitcoin beef bits slips right in there it's just such a great product so and send this

1070
01:17:18,266 --> 01:17:24,346
one to your uh you know your friends that are down the rabbit holes of you know stacking away dried

1071
01:17:24,346 --> 01:17:29,627
good food the preppers yeah they're gonna love this they're gonna love this and it's just another

1072
01:17:29,627 --> 01:17:37,026
way in for them to start learning about bitcoin the real the real proper money and what that

1073
01:17:37,026 --> 01:17:41,286
could mean for them their future and their families so really appreciate the boys coming on

1074
01:17:41,286 --> 01:17:49,606
make sure you continue to stack your sats yes the price of bitcoin is down that means it is on sale

1075
01:17:49,606 --> 01:17:58,826
it's a promotion it's a 50 discount it's well no it's not 50 discount but you know what i mean

1076
01:17:58,826 --> 01:18:04,486
you know like you you go into your your favorite shop and you know that's my favorite product

1077
01:18:04,486 --> 01:18:10,906
that's got a discount on it and you stack whatever that is you just stack you fill up the cup

1078
01:18:10,906 --> 01:18:15,326
you should be doing that with your bitcoin and you should be looking down the back of the sofa

1079
01:18:15,326 --> 01:18:19,466
for any spare pennies that you might have dropped out of your pocket because this is the time

1080
01:18:19,466 --> 01:18:25,406
keep your focus because right now everybody's running around with their heads on fire they

1081
01:18:25,406 --> 01:18:30,886
don't know what to do because they don't understand so keep building out your education

1082
01:18:30,886 --> 01:18:37,386
and your knowledge i hope this podcast is part of that and part of your journey uh look forward to

1083
01:18:37,386 --> 01:18:42,406
seeing you guys at some point during one of these conferences this year thank you so much for

1084
01:18:42,406 --> 01:18:48,926
listening and don't forget please self custody your bitcoin bitbox.swiss forward slash bitten

1085
01:18:48,926 --> 01:18:53,606
use the code bitten and get five percent discount i'll catch you guys on the next show