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professor of organic chemistry at Cornell University and one of the most iconic voices

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in the financial and political commentary space. Dave returns for his eighth appearance on the

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Bitcoin matrix. And as always, he pulls no punches. We dive deep into market manipulation,

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the madness of the gold and platinum trades, and what he calls the complacency bubble.

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But it doesn't stop there. We get into the political circus of Trump, the illusion of

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democracy, the murky world of Epstein, and whether AI is just the next tech bubble wrapped in hardware

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that rots like a banana.

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And now, let's enter the Bitcoin Matrix with Professor David B. Column.

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Welcome back to the Bitcoin Matrix podcast for the eighth time.

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How are you?

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Really?

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Eighth time?

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Holy shit.

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Six on your own, and then one we did the group chat, which started off great and then kind of spiraled down.

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It went off the rails, didn't it?

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It spiraled down.

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Well, you know, I mean, four hodlers and then no coin, it really somehow was going to end up in a bit of a bloodbath.

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I begged them before the show not to do the Bitcoin thing, right?

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They did it.

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They did it. They couldn't resist.

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No, and they were all like dogs on a bone.

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But I think, you know, I think also they were all excited to kind of throw their best pitch at you.

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Well, I think that's right. I didn't take offense.

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There's in your hodler community, and you and I have talked about this a lot,

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and I don't think you and I have a problem at all.

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But there's like the hodler community goes all the way from smart bastards like you and Marty

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and guys like that, all the way down to goddamn Stepford wife cultists.

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And as I've said, and you've quoted me many, many times,

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it's going to cause people tremendous pain who don't know why they own it.

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And I think...

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I like the entire economy right now.

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It feels so fucked up.

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It really feels totally fucked up to me.

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Yeah.

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I mean, what would you think?

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I mean, we're 10 months or almost 11 months into the year.

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I don't think anyone would have guessed things would have went this way.

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Not that we ever guess a year correctly in advance.

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No.

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I'm having the best year I've had since probably 1998 or something.

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I got one word for you then.

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Metals.

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Metals.

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Well, that's what I own, right?

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That's what I own, right?

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So I'm a goadler.

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And I don't like that, actually.

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I go, I'm being teed up here or something, right?

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I'd rather make a clean 10% a year every year.

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That would be great, which is, by the way, way too much.

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I mean, you shouldn't be able to make 10% even.

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But Buffett said basically in a, you know, risk assets of equities,

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you can't make more than 4% a year sustainably.

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And what is gold up this year, like 60%, 70%?

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Yeah, there's some funny business in the gold and precious metal market this afternoon.

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Someone did one of those slam dunk things where all of a sudden the volume spikes and the price drops.

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It's right after the Comix closed.

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So you've got to get used to that.

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Bitcoin's a little beat up right now, I notice.

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But as you know and as I know, if dropping down 10% or 15% is too much for you, you should probably take up something like fishing.

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It's not your world.

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But gold being up the amount it is, not just in percentage terms, but market cap.

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Oh, it's huge.

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Huge.

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You're talking about $10 trillion probably.

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And platinum is way up. And I played the platinum perfectly, although it's not sized perfectly.

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But I've been watching platinum for years and it was flat.

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It was flat to the point where I'm going, someone's holding platinum at 900 bucks, right?

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I mean, it was flat, flat.

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And the bullish case for platinum is fundamentals.

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It's not a meme. It's not a momentum. It's not a technical analysis.

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It's not some 200-day moving average.

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It's the fact that there's very little platinum above ground.

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We're in deficit production.

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And we're just flat out going to run out if we don't up the production or stop the consumption, right?

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And it's like two or three years, boom, gone.

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And so you want to own platinum in South Africa's potentially failed state,

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which will make the price of platinum go way up because it's 90% of the platinum production.

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So if the Marxists get a hold of the platinum mines,

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there's not going to be a lot of platinum coming out of them, right?

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We know that drill.

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and so I was watching and I asked a couple technical analysts

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I said what in this plot which is flat would get your attention

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and they gave me various price targets that they would consider

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a wiggle that had outwiggled the channel that it was stuck in

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and I formulated a plan and I probably hit the bid nine times this year

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and starting right away which caught the very very beginning of the move

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all the way up to the present, which is pretty much even.

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And so I'm probably up, I don't know, 45% integrated over the nine purchases.

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But I'm still not up.

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I mean, I'm still not up to a big position.

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I don't love, Rick Rule once said, got a hunch, buy a bunch.

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Doesn't work very well.

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You get hurt.

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You suffer gambler's ruin pretty fast.

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What do you think, I mean, has anyone, the non-gold bugs,

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that are the macro people that you follow or talk to?

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Are they looking at a 70% move in gold

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and kind of saying that's more than interesting?

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I mean...

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Well, it could be telling us something, right?

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I mean, there's information in it potentially.

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It could even be something as ridiculous

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as tether buying gold, right?

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So, but it could be telling us

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that there's a fundamental problem.

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It really started its move when we weaponized the dollar against Putin,

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and one could make the argument that, therefore, it is a fundamental-based move.

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Anyone who tells you they know what price it ought to be is out of their mind,

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they're a liar or they're delusional.

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And you can make an argument like, well, if you denominated all the dollars in the world in gold,

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gold would go to $49,000.

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I'm okay with that argument.

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I have trouble with the argument that says that it will do that, but you can do math.

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I'm very tired of people who price other stuff in gold and say,

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oh, it really hasn't gone up if you price it in gold.

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And I go, well, I'm sorry, but gold may be a great store of value over the long term.

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It's a volatile asset.

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So I like to ask the question, if you're going to buy a house a year from now,

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and you had half a million dollars,

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you were going to pay cash,

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but it wasn't going to be ready to buy

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until a year from now,

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and you didn't want to get humped,

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what would you put it in?

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It would be a CD, right?

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It wouldn't be Bitcoin,

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it wouldn't be gold,

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it wouldn't be Nvidia,

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because then you could wake up a year from now

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and say, oh, fuck, I can't afford the house.

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It would be a CD

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because the price of what we buy

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is still denominated in dollars.

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When gold goes up 60% this year, my groceries didn't get 60% cheaper.

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They didn't change.

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They're constant.

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They're drifting up because of the depreciation of the dollar, but they're predictable, right?

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I mean, whereas in the price of gold, they've gotten unbelievably cheap, and that just doesn't make sense.

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So I don't like that people would denominate things in gold and pretend that it has wisdom in it.

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I don't buy the model at all.

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Do you think there's a monetary regime change at hand here?

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Yeah, potentially.

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But during that change, price is not going to be a good indicator of anything but the fact that change is occurring, right?

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That's interesting.

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All right.

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Well, you know, what about, you know, we're 10 months into Trump, and you just talked about, and I don't want to make this all about Trump, but it seems to be like every narrative goes through Trump here.

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But recently, 50-year mortgage, 15-year car loan been floated.

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Yeah, I hate it.

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If someone posted something that finally caught, that really caught my attention, you know

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that meme from the New World Order that says you'll own nothing, you'll be happy.

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Someone showed a meme with a 50-year mortgage that says you'll own nothing and you'll be

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happy.

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That's when it really clicked.

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I'd already figured out, you know, a 50-year mortgage, you're a renter.

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You're not buying a house if you have a 50-year mortgage, you're a renter.

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And you can make it a 100-year mortgage and it becomes officially you're a renter.

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And then, except for you have responsibility of the house.

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You can't say, well, fuck it, I'm moving next year when the lease is up, right?

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You have the goddamn house.

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And the 15-year car loan, you're going to buy a car that has a life expectancy of eight years on a 15-year loan?

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That's insanity.

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And so I got in an interview with a friend, and he said that rates have to go down to make housing more affordable.

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And I go, no, the price of houses have to come down.

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I want rates to go up.

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I'm the only guy on Twitter who says rates should go up.

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They're too low, in my opinion.

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Yeah.

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Well, and also, just because the Fed lowers the rate doesn't mean the mortgage rates go down.

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That's right.

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And in fact, that would be, I think the Fed's probably a little nervous that they'll do something,

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and then the world will say, wait a minute, you're not in control of that anymore?

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Right?

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They don't want to make a move without, it's like a lawyer.

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in a courtroom does want to ask a question that they don't know the answer to.

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And so I think the Fed isn't going to try to save the system

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until they know that what they do will appear to be saving it.

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So they will save it after it's run out of fuel, right, after the burn.

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The uncontrolled burn has turned into a controlled burn.

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Then they'll show up and spray water on it and say,

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we've put out the flames, we're heroes.

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and you know these guys who say dropping rates is bullish are ignoring facts so if you look at the

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fed funds rate you look at the the dot-com call drop in price you look at the you look at the the

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0809 drop in price of equities the the top is nailed by the first rate cut that that that calls

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the top. While they're lowering rates, equities were dropping like stones. And then the bottom

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was called when the Fed stopped lowering rates. And so while the Fed is dropping rates, you're

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probably in a swan dive. And then they say, you know, and they talk about how rising interest

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rates is unbullished for gold. They go, have you forgotten the 1970s, right? The 1970s gold

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sword and interest rates sword. And you go, oh, let me see if I got this right. Interest rates go up

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when inflation becomes a risk. Gold goes up when inflation becomes a risk. Therefore, they ought to

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correlate, right? That's a kind of goes without saying. What do you think of the notion or the

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memes, the big print or, you know, nothing stops this train? I don't buy it. I think right now

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nothing is stopping this train. I've been trying to rebrand it. And I don't know if it's original,

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but I don't hear other people saying it yet,

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but I'm still trying to rebrand it.

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It's a complacency bubble.

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So I don't think there's anyone in the market right now

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who's euphoric.

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They might be pushing their chips all in,

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but this is not, you know, this is not 1929

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where people thought that it was just nothing but blue skies, right?

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We just invented electricity, planes, cars.

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we are at a permanent plateau of prosperity as Fisher said right Or the nifty fifty where tech had really gone wild and the US was post rocking

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The dot com bubble where the internet had been invented and we're going, holy shit,

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this is just a whole new world.

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Or even the real estate bubble where everyone's going, hey, we can all buy houses now.

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We're living the American dream, right?

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Now it's everyone's pissed off at their neighbor.

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They think everything sucks, but they think the Fed's somehow going to protect them from

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being 200% over historical average valuation.

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200% easily demonstrably trivial illustration 200% over historical average valuation, which

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I defined from 1880 to 1990.

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18.8 and 1990, Case-Shiller PE averaged around 12, 13. It's now 40. If 110 years doesn't form a

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baseline for you, I can't help you, right? You're demanding too much of it. We can go back to ancient

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Rome and try to figure out a better baseline, but it's not going to work. We've had 30 or 40 years

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of recency bias where it just keeps from 1980 to the present. The valuations, which shouldn't trend,

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have compounded 4% a year, compounded 4% a year,

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the valuations, something, the price divided by something

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they ought to track have compounded 4% a year.

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What happens when that reverses, right?

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We've had this discussion before, I bet.

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When that, what if it goes negative 4% a year

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for the next 40 years, you go, that never happened?

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Well, yeah, I think it will actually,

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because there's never been an overvalued asset

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that didn't find its way back to cheap.

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Show me one, right?

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And if you show me one that didn't go back to cheap and use a five-year window, no thank you.

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I'm uninterested in your, I'm uninterested in the case you're trying to make.

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How fast did, or how long did it take Amazon to come back when it crashed from like around $100 to $6 in like 2000?

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And I ask that because is it possible AI, robotics, and Bitcoin bring some, usher in some sort of economic renaissance?

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You know, is it a non-zero chance?

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Like right now, I think the cap around AI is not going to return an ROI in the near future.

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I don't even think they have all the power to plug in all the chips they're buying.

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I think there's a lot of financial wizardry behind some of those deals.

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but maybe this all you know maybe they go through their dot-com moment and amazon's come out of it

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and other economic powerhouses that we don't see right now well amazon came out of getting getting

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carpet bombed right that's what i'm saying so like things and by the way it was name name a company

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that sells dot-com in its name that survived besides i mean amazon's not amazon.com anymore

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which is Amazon.

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Right.

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Facebook's not the Facebook.

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The dot coms got carpet bombed, right?

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So what are the big ones?

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Facebook came later.

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eBay has done well.

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Amazon has done well.

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But then social media came out of that, online.

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Right, right, right.

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I don't doubt it.

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But the NASDAQ went down to 83%.

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So if you carpet bomb the markets

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the way I believe they deserve to be carpet bombed,

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then there will be companies

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that will be transformational

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that will, in retrospect,

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look like they were brilliant things to buy.

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There will be tons of companies

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that will be the global crossings of the modern era.

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And so bubbles serve a purpose, actually.

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And that is a bubble will provide capital

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to every imaginable harebrained idea,

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and some of them will turn out to be profoundly important.

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The problem is you can't have a bubble every 10 years.

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That's just, you can't do creative destruction that fast without the destruction becoming more than the creative part.

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So, bulldoze your house every five years and build a better one and tell me how that works out for you.

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Right?

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And it won't.

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So every once in a great while when maybe there's this pent-up human creativity that's just waiting to be released,

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then all of a sudden you flood the world with stupid capital,

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and some thought influencers will come out and they'll change the world.

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But it's inefficient, right?

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But it at least gets them out there.

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But it's not, you can't do it every 10 years.

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You can't, you know, Blockbuster's gone.

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That's okay.

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It was creative destruction.

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But, you know, there are fast food stores that are going to go.

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But they were around for a while.

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So what you have to do from each generation of tech is you've got to pay the bills before you bulldoze and get the next generation.

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If every generation fails to pay the bills, you're just building up a debt.

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And that hit me one day when one of my colleagues, we went through this 20-year period where we renovated labs in a building that was built in 1960.

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and they were just overdue.

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And so we would renovate them

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and then hire a person, put them in it.

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And so it was a kind of a staged program.

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At one point, there was a discussion

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of hiring someone, putting them in labs

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that had been renovated six years earlier.

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And they said, oh, we got to renovate them again.

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I go, no, you can't renovate labs,

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get six years and then renovate them again.

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That's just terrible economics.

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The generation has to,

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you have to be able to depreciate the asset and get your money back.

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And if not, it was a bad investment.

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Makes sense to me.

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I don't know.

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Maybe not.

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But, you know, so AI is a particularly bleak one, in my opinion.

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I think it will be transformational.

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You can already see things you can do with it that you go, oh, boy.

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And I'm not talking about the AI.

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I'm talking about the fact that you can search using a question rather than having to click links, right?

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And I love the fact that I can search on Grok and it tells me where to start thinking.

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So if I don't have a clue where to start, I'll ask something to Grok and then Grok will give me these paragraphs.

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I go, okay, I got a follow up on these.

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You can't take that as the answer.

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I mean, Grok's full of crap.

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But it's a great way to get a synopsis to get you started, to start fact checking.

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And so it will be transformational, I think.

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And some stuff's overdue.

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Like, why couldn't 15 years ago, why couldn't doctors plug into a computer program the symptoms of the patient and get told what possible diseases exist?

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Right.

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With the various probabilities even, right?

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Saying, look, here's your best bet.

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A friend of mine just died a couple weeks ago.

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He went to the ER.

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They said he had a pinched nerve two days later, a massive heart attack.

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I don't know the details, but I have got to figure someone fucked up pretty badly.

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Because I'm guessing the pinched nerve is probably somewhere in his left shoulder.

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Right?

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And now it's possible they did all the tests and they showed negative.

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And so they did what they were supposed to do.

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And they said, okay.

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And then somehow it got by him right now.

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Okay.

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But I'm guessing it was probably someone who didn't do their job right.

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So where am I going with all this?

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You can't do creative destruction nonstop.

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You can't spend a fortune.

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Now what's AI?

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Well, AI is spending trillions of dollars.

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on hardware that has the life expectancy of a banana, right?

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And you fill a bunch of huge, there's an AI facility.

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It was first quoted to me in a meeting I was at about a week and a half ago

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by a well-known guy who got it wrong, but I'll give you the corrected version.

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There's an AI facility in Louisiana that's 70 football fields.

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The site is a square mile, and it's going to use more electricity than New Orleans, right?

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Now, they're going to fill that 70 football fields with servers that won't be worth shit in four years, right?

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They'll be as valuable as a Mac SE.

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And are they going to spend another trillion and another trillion?

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Or is software going to put them right out of business because all of a sudden we can do AI on your phone now?

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You know, I mean, so it's got to be, AI is a wipeout coming.

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You can see it coming.

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There's criminality all over it.

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There's, I'm not going to name names, but one of the most prominent guys himself looks like a sociopath.

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He actually looks like an AI.

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He's got the dead eyes of AI, which I think are the dead eyes of a sociopath.

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and he's out there begging the government to fund AI

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because we need to for national security.

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And you got Jensen Huang out there saying China's going to win.

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What's that?

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Translation, Trump, give the U.S. more money to buy my chips, right?

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I wouldn't trust Jensen Huang as far as I can throw him.

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He's got a track record that tells me not to trust him, right?

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And this kind of money, it's like the sports scandal, right?

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Right?

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And you go, why would these guys take money to throw a game when they're paid this much?

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And I go, because some mobster will walk up and says, we're going to kneecap you.

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They didn't do it for the money.

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They didn't because some guy walked up and said, you're going to fucking die if you don't throw the game.

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And I heard about eight months ago something about the Powerball.

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Billion-dollar lotteries were rigged.

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And I picked up very little on it, but I'm going, well, when you've got billions of dollars at stake,

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you have to ask, is someone trying to rig it?

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And you go, well, but, you know, they're audited.

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And I go, yeah, by the same guys who audited all the goddamn banks in 08-09, right?

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So some mobster comes up and says to the auditor, you know, by the way, we're going to kneecap your ass if you don't make sure that you let us rig it, right?

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And then I read another article more recently about some Zorro trust that won one of the Powerballs.

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And it turns out it was tied to Epstein.

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And I'm going, okay, so we've got Mossad and CIA funding themselves by rigging Powerballs.

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Now, if I were Joe Sixpack and I were buying Powerball tickets,

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because I cannot, I have zero probability of getting out of the hole that I'm in.

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But if I buy a Powerball ticket, the probability is no longer zero.

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And then I find out it's still zero.

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I'm going to be pretty mad.

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Yeah, but what a great way to skim the money from the people.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Volunteer.

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Not only do you print the money, and then you take it.

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Then they take it.

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Yeah.

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And all of a sudden it makes total sense.

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And I go, and again, the sports gambling makes total sense in retrospect.

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I used to watch guys watch the NFL games.

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I haven't watched a lot of sports because my wife doesn't want to.

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And my free time is I can't just park in front of a TV.

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And they were saying, you know, the NFL looks like professional wrestling now.

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And I thought they were just pissed off because their team lost.

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Now I'm not sure.

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I used to be amazed at how good NFL referees were.

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I'd watch the instant replay and I'd go, oh my God, his foot did touch the line.

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I can't believe the referee saw that.

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To me, the referees were God.

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The instant replay showed that.

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But I can't tell you for sure that that guy didn't intentionally step on the line.

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I don't think Gasbell's the most rigged of all of them.

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I mean, there's less players.

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Yeah, air balls.

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All you gotta do is throw some shitty air balls.

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Miss a free throw.

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Yeah, bonk it.

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bonk the rim uh i mean they say uh you know they took jordan's dad to pay his gambling debts his

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uh legal gambling debts that's the one of the conspiracy theories what happened they took that

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they took jordan's dad michael jordan's dad they killed him to repay his illegal gambling debts

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interesting and and that was also why he had to leave the mba for a couple years

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you mean to go to baseball i mean kanye talks about this and you know they you know you have

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the sacrifice so kanye's mom bill cosby's son well i was just about to mention bill cosby's son is

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a tape you have to replay now and they say lebron sacrificed kobe well lebron lebron's got got dirt

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all over him on the diddy story yeah yeah lebron lebron was up to his eyeballs and diddy but they

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seem to have pushed the diddy story aside for them well so what did they convict him of prostitution

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so so the diddy story is actually i think pretty simple to understand so diddy was doing all this

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he was kind of a epstein for the hood right he was he was epstein for the uh the part of the

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entertainment industry that they couldn't get to very easily you know the the rappers and the

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Praise Hollywood elites, some of them.

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And so he did the videotaping and all the blackmailing type of shit.

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But then someone sued him.

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And this lawsuit, I looked at the lawsuit casually.

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I've got a link to it.

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And it had some pretty grisly stuff in it.

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And I think they said, holy shit, they had to arrest him to go in and do a raid on his house to get the tapes, to get it the hell away from the civil court.

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So now the civil trial is based on he said she said Right And then they let him fend for himself for a little bit and then let him off with some light charges And he going to be out of jail in no time whatsoever

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And it's like, it's better than us capping you, dude.

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So shut up.

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And by the way, whenever something bad happens, family members, all of a sudden,

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they get charged with having child porn on their computer

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because they don't need family members screaming about how innocent their loved one is either.

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So Stephen Paddock, when he shot up Vegas, the whole thing was just totally farcically wrong.

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His brother all of a sudden had kiddie porn on his computer.

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And his brother, one time the press tried to hit him,

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and I've never seen a guy try harder to say nothing than his brother.

460
00:28:27,988 --> 00:28:30,448
He just, it was incoherent babbling, and it wasn't.

461
00:28:31,368 --> 00:28:35,528
And the woman who supposedly went into Uvalde to get her kid,

462
00:28:35,688 --> 00:28:38,148
she came out and babbled incoherently saying nothing.

463
00:28:38,148 --> 00:28:47,388
There's just, and who is it that the brother, the brother of one of the Trump shooters.

464
00:28:47,388 --> 00:28:51,188
The first Trump shooter is an interesting story because I do think he tried to hit him.

465
00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:54,148
The second one, I don't think there was even an assassination involved.

466
00:28:54,148 --> 00:28:55,748
I think the whole thing was a farce.

467
00:28:55,748 --> 00:28:57,588
Do you believe the third one?

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474
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I think the first one, you know, I'm inclined to believe the first one.

475
00:29:29,448 --> 00:29:30,508
I think the guy boned it.

476
00:29:31,188 --> 00:29:34,848
I think he was supposed to shoot Trump and then they were supposed to shoot him and then

477
00:29:34,848 --> 00:29:36,228
clean up the mess, right?

478
00:29:36,228 --> 00:29:41,548
I think the shot of Trump might have actually come from the building that the guy was laying on, not the guy.

479
00:29:41,828 --> 00:29:42,768
Yeah, like from a window.

480
00:29:42,988 --> 00:29:43,628
From a window.

481
00:29:45,008 --> 00:29:46,588
There's so many possibilities.

482
00:29:47,028 --> 00:29:49,568
And there's a lot of bullet analysis.

483
00:29:49,568 --> 00:29:53,468
I think it's possible that none of it was supposed to hit Trump and that it was supposed to.

484
00:29:53,808 --> 00:29:59,728
Well, if a bullet hit his ear, that's too close to be faked.

485
00:30:00,428 --> 00:30:01,888
If a bullet hit his ear.

486
00:30:02,288 --> 00:30:03,388
I don't know if a bullet hit his ear.

487
00:30:03,988 --> 00:30:04,868
No, I don't.

488
00:30:04,868 --> 00:30:06,788
If it didn't hit his ear, then we don't know.

489
00:30:06,908 --> 00:30:11,448
But if a bullet hit his ear, then I'd say, no, it's not like it hit him in the arm, right?

490
00:30:12,588 --> 00:30:14,588
Hitting him in the ear is pretty damn close.

491
00:30:14,728 --> 00:30:19,608
But for all we know, Trump reached up and zipped himself with a razor blade to get the blood, right?

492
00:30:19,768 --> 00:30:21,768
Yeah, or a pill pop or whatever.

493
00:30:21,968 --> 00:30:22,768
Yeah, who knows, right?

494
00:30:23,128 --> 00:30:24,868
The whole thing was so perfect.

495
00:30:25,568 --> 00:30:30,228
Kind of the age of assassinations or at least viral ones.

496
00:30:30,228 --> 00:30:32,708
And, you know, you had the UnitedHealthcare CEO.

497
00:30:32,708 --> 00:30:35,008
We had the one, I think it was at Blackstone.

498
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:38,648
Yeah, so Manjoni looks like an MKUltra assassin to me.

499
00:30:39,308 --> 00:30:42,068
He doesn't look in any way legit to me.

500
00:30:42,428 --> 00:30:42,608
Right.

501
00:30:43,028 --> 00:30:44,268
Normal. He doesn't look normal.

502
00:30:44,688 --> 00:30:45,748
You know, I don't know.

503
00:30:45,908 --> 00:30:48,348
It seems like, remember, we used to have serial killers.

504
00:30:49,248 --> 00:30:53,168
And those kind of went away when we started getting mass killers like we have now.

505
00:30:54,488 --> 00:30:56,428
All SSRI victims.

506
00:30:57,248 --> 00:31:00,428
What did you make of the Charlie Kirk assassination?

507
00:31:00,428 --> 00:31:01,828
Well, he did get killed, I think.

508
00:31:01,828 --> 00:31:03,808
I think the people say he's not dead.

509
00:31:04,368 --> 00:31:06,968
What are you going to do with the guy if he's not dead?

510
00:31:07,408 --> 00:31:12,768
Epstein could be on an island somewhere with a facelift and drinking daiquiris.

511
00:31:13,028 --> 00:31:15,368
But Charlie Kirk, you're not going to get it.

512
00:31:15,548 --> 00:31:17,508
So Charlie Kirk did get whacked.

513
00:31:17,648 --> 00:31:21,728
There are so many possible shooters that it's clear that whoever whacked him

514
00:31:21,728 --> 00:31:25,308
set up a confusing set of theories intentionally.

515
00:31:26,908 --> 00:31:29,348
There's all sorts of strange stuff all over this story.

516
00:31:29,348 --> 00:31:35,948
the one thing I do not believe is the guy on the roof did it that that's been blown apart I think

517
00:31:35,948 --> 00:31:45,368
what I link about the Charlie Kirk the Trump Butler thing and the 9-11 thing and 9-11 was in

518
00:31:45,368 --> 00:31:51,848
the age of television but it seemed like there was sort of one clip or one angle sort of just fed to

519
00:31:51,848 --> 00:31:57,288
the world instantaneously so sort of a very control I guess controlled is it just seems like

520
00:31:57,288 --> 00:32:04,548
I don't know how to put my fingers on, but like a narrative, sort of produced in the moment live

521
00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:10,628
or pre-produced or the whole, you know, and and somehow they prevent any other angles and clips

522
00:32:10,628 --> 00:32:16,148
to get out, at least for years, especially with 9-11. Well, it took me. I mean, the second I saw

523
00:32:16,148 --> 00:32:22,208
Building 7 go down, I said, oops, that's not right. That defies the laws of physics. I don't

524
00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:28,528
give a damn what you say now. Building 7 was enough. But it turns out 9-11, there's thousands

525
00:32:28,528 --> 00:32:35,248
of things that don't make sense, but there's three or four that just seem impossible. The two for me

526
00:32:35,248 --> 00:32:40,248
are Building 7, which should never have collapsed. I don't think the tower should have. I think chaos

527
00:32:40,248 --> 00:32:45,348
here, he says, that as the towers were collapsing, something would have made them go slightly

528
00:32:45,348 --> 00:32:50,308
asymmetric, and then it would have been over. And then to do it twice, right? Who knows? I don't know

529
00:32:50,308 --> 00:32:54,628
they did it yeah and the pentagon doesn't make sense but i i don't even think i don't think charlie

530
00:32:54,628 --> 00:33:00,148
kirk was necessarily i just don't think what we saw was 100 real you don't think you don't think

531
00:33:00,148 --> 00:33:06,868
he got hit in the neck in the blood yeah that all looked very not real to me really they didn't carry

532
00:33:06,868 --> 00:33:13,588
him to an ambulance no no that no no once he's hit then everything's wrong i understand what you're

533
00:33:13,588 --> 00:33:19,268
saying i i just i didn't i mean i could i can i didn't see blood trailing on the floor i saw a lot

534
00:33:19,268 --> 00:33:25,268
of things that just look like anomalies to me well the problem is if he got hit in the spine

535
00:33:25,268 --> 00:33:30,388
very strange um well his wife's a complete eyeball the videos with his children look strange like it

536
00:33:30,388 --> 00:33:36,628
it reminds me of like john bonnet ramsey or like paul walker you know michael hastings the the

537
00:33:36,628 --> 00:33:42,868
the amount of money behind the organization the amount of influence um the way he was flown home

538
00:33:42,868 --> 00:33:47,428
on air force two uh like it doesn't seem like there's an autopsy doesn't seem like there's a

539
00:33:47,428 --> 00:33:50,888
He went from being Charlie Kirk to Jesus Christ 2.0.

540
00:33:50,888 --> 00:33:52,108
Yeah, like all of it.

541
00:33:52,528 --> 00:33:56,788
At best, he was a podcaster or influencer in terms of like national renown.

542
00:33:57,088 --> 00:34:03,968
So they were like going home in Air Force Two was very similar to like maybe JFK's assassination when they flew him.

543
00:34:04,288 --> 00:34:07,008
You know, and it's like so they just didn't.

544
00:34:07,568 --> 00:34:09,468
I don't want to offend anybody.

545
00:34:09,608 --> 00:34:10,668
Maybe it is real.

546
00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:13,228
And look, 9-11, I don't think is exactly how we saw it.

547
00:34:13,228 --> 00:34:15,528
But I do think the buildings disappeared and people died.

548
00:34:15,528 --> 00:34:16,148
So it's like.

549
00:34:16,668 --> 00:34:17,308
Oh, I know.

550
00:34:17,308 --> 00:34:21,948
that yeah people died i'm not saying there might not have been real bullets and real victims and

551
00:34:22,668 --> 00:34:27,628
things of this nature uh but it just had like and the way they swept the crime scene away

552
00:34:27,628 --> 00:34:32,268
both similar to butler similar to like took away the camera behind him and things like that the

553
00:34:32,268 --> 00:34:38,268
camera all of it just didn't add up to me well also the mike mike mccoy video the mike berk

554
00:34:39,068 --> 00:34:45,868
follower and it was just it was on my phone like instantaneously like so i think erica kirk looks

555
00:34:45,868 --> 00:34:48,788
It's beyond comprehensible to me.

556
00:34:49,688 --> 00:34:55,828
Mike McCoy, the Mike McCoy video is a terrible, terrible look for TPSA.

557
00:34:56,108 --> 00:35:02,228
So if I had to lay out a theory, TPSA looks pretty guilty to me.

558
00:35:03,348 --> 00:35:05,148
Israel looks pretty guilty to me.

559
00:35:05,528 --> 00:35:12,628
They say, you know, Max Abrams, not Max the other one.

560
00:35:13,148 --> 00:35:14,488
There's one who's a good guy.

561
00:35:14,488 --> 00:35:19,168
Some guy's been harassing me saying, you know, show me evidence that Israel did it.

562
00:35:19,228 --> 00:35:21,008
And I go, I don't have evidence that Israel did it.

563
00:35:21,048 --> 00:35:27,648
All I know is that once you rule out a crazy shooter, you say, okay, now who are the possible shooters?

564
00:35:29,168 --> 00:35:31,008
Israel's got to go right to the top of the list.

565
00:35:31,628 --> 00:35:32,908
Right to the top, period.

566
00:35:33,088 --> 00:35:33,408
QED.

567
00:35:34,108 --> 00:35:34,528
Have to.

568
00:35:35,408 --> 00:35:36,928
Because Charlie was fighting Israel.

569
00:35:37,328 --> 00:35:40,048
And so, now, there are other candidates.

570
00:35:40,448 --> 00:35:41,528
Maybe he was martyred.

571
00:35:41,528 --> 00:35:48,968
maybe maybe the republican party said that's what i think it like whether he's alive or not

572
00:35:48,968 --> 00:35:52,608
again i'm not trying to go down that rabbit hole too much but i i think he was martyred

573
00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:56,928
i think it was and it was sort of well they certainly turned it into martyrdom immediately

574
00:35:56,928 --> 00:36:03,828
yeah and i mean they even had a stadium booked like eight months yeah way too soon yeah way

575
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:04,788
It works.

576
00:36:05,008 --> 00:36:06,088
And, you know, it.

577
00:36:06,208 --> 00:36:06,728
Yeah.

578
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:07,568
So.

579
00:36:07,688 --> 00:36:09,428
But watch Erica Kirk.

580
00:36:09,748 --> 00:36:15,428
And I thought it was, to me, some of the symbolism there was literally he's wearing the freedom shirt.

581
00:36:15,428 --> 00:36:20,628
And so to me, and he gets shot in the neck, you know, so it's like they killed freedom of speech that day.

582
00:36:20,788 --> 00:36:21,108
Right.

583
00:36:21,108 --> 00:36:21,348
Right.

584
00:36:21,628 --> 00:36:26,968
And whether, you know, even if he's, again, it doesn't matter what happened to him, that the message is like inverted.

585
00:36:26,968 --> 00:36:35,308
Well, they also flunked Health Care 101 when they threw him in the SUV.

586
00:36:36,048 --> 00:36:38,648
They should have tried to stop any bleeding right there on the spot.

587
00:36:38,768 --> 00:36:39,068
They didn't.

588
00:36:39,128 --> 00:36:40,088
They just carried him away.

589
00:36:41,348 --> 00:36:46,208
By the way, I'll put Ashley Babbitt on the list of people that make no sense.

590
00:36:46,468 --> 00:36:52,168
I was going to write about Ashley Babbitt pretty thoroughly about how I thought that she didn't get shot,

591
00:36:52,168 --> 00:36:55,168
but I didn't doubt she was dead by the time they got her out the door

592
00:36:55,168 --> 00:36:57,888
because I think a needle in the ass would be enough to do that.

593
00:36:58,088 --> 00:37:00,708
And I showed it to some very smart people, and they said,

594
00:37:00,788 --> 00:37:02,028
I see what your point is.

595
00:37:02,088 --> 00:37:05,048
I see the problems you're seeing in the tapes, but I'm not sure.

596
00:37:05,168 --> 00:37:08,148
And so I kind of dialed it back and made some subtle statements

597
00:37:08,148 --> 00:37:11,368
and provided a bunch of links and said, here, make up your own mind.

598
00:37:12,368 --> 00:37:17,388
About three years later, Cheryl Atkinson,

599
00:37:17,988 --> 00:37:22,208
who is a highly credible, one of my favorite journalists,

600
00:37:22,208 --> 00:37:27,888
sat there with two federal agents watching the tape saying,

601
00:37:28,148 --> 00:37:29,808
this is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.

602
00:37:29,928 --> 00:37:33,428
So they finally got on the Ashley Babbitt story.

603
00:37:33,728 --> 00:37:36,328
Three years later, and I'm exonerated.

604
00:37:36,728 --> 00:37:38,208
I got exonerated on that one.

605
00:37:38,608 --> 00:37:42,708
I mean, Charlie Kirk's father was an architect on Trump Tower.

606
00:37:42,948 --> 00:37:43,328
Right.

607
00:37:43,588 --> 00:37:47,488
Erica Kirk, her first pageant was a Trump pageant.

608
00:37:47,808 --> 00:37:49,108
And what'd she do before that?

609
00:37:49,108 --> 00:37:51,288
Well, right after that, she went to Romania.

610
00:37:51,288 --> 00:37:56,208
and now before that she went through oh was it after yeah it was right after i don't think so

611
00:37:56,208 --> 00:38:01,988
she was she was she was running a company in romania when she's 17. right and it was something

612
00:38:01,988 --> 00:38:08,048
like romania's angels which is very close to tate's angels andrew tate well also that they had been

613
00:38:08,048 --> 00:38:13,828
rumored to be trafficking children right right most of these not-for-profits seem to be and i

614
00:38:13,828 --> 00:38:20,708
know i feel i yeah so so but you watch her she looks like a zombie i she really does look like

615
00:38:20,708 --> 00:38:25,408
MKUltra to me. She looks like a product of MKUltra. You know, they rip your personality apart,

616
00:38:25,608 --> 00:38:33,468
they repackage you. By the way, the Miss Arizona, she's competing against pros. She's

617
00:38:33,468 --> 00:38:40,208
competing against hot chicks who for their entire lives have been training to win these pageants.

618
00:38:40,728 --> 00:38:44,848
You don't just take a hot chick, put a bikini on her and have her win Miss Arizona.

619
00:38:45,668 --> 00:38:45,768
Right.

620
00:38:45,768 --> 00:38:53,508
By the way, you might be able to win Miss Alaska that way because your competitors might be grizzly bears and stuff, right?

621
00:38:54,468 --> 00:38:57,788
Miss Arizona, you're competing against some real talent down there.

622
00:38:57,948 --> 00:39:01,928
And you don't win those pageants as a rookie.

623
00:39:02,128 --> 00:39:05,748
And I've talked to a pageant winner about that and said, am I correct on that assumption?

624
00:39:05,808 --> 00:39:06,788
She said, absolutely.

625
00:39:06,788 --> 00:39:15,288
These girls are trained their whole lives going to pageants to refine their shtick to win Miss Arizona, Miss USA.

626
00:39:15,288 --> 00:39:30,368
Yeah, so I found it interesting. It brings up the notion that you got into, or even talking a lot about, is like signal versus noise. And it's really hard to kind of get to really figure anything out.

627
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:37,968
Well, I'm getting frustrated to the point where I'm at a serious fork in the road as to what to do about it.

628
00:39:38,468 --> 00:39:43,688
Because this year, for example, you know I write a year in review.

629
00:39:43,988 --> 00:39:46,808
I will not be writing a normal one this year, period.

630
00:39:47,588 --> 00:39:51,188
If you look at my pinned tweet, you'll notice a fundamental change.

631
00:39:52,028 --> 00:39:54,448
My pinned tweet is a 404 error.

632
00:39:54,948 --> 00:39:57,188
I'm foreshadowing the problem.

633
00:39:57,188 --> 00:40:07,128
And the problem is, if you were to write about the year 2025, it would be like 95% Trump, right?

634
00:40:07,208 --> 00:40:12,868
It would have to be 95% Trump, the Trump against the world, the various players, but it would be 95% Trump.

635
00:40:13,048 --> 00:40:14,688
He's man of the year again, right?

636
00:40:15,208 --> 00:40:18,548
And I don't find so much of it believable.

637
00:40:18,948 --> 00:40:20,288
I don't find it interesting.

638
00:40:20,288 --> 00:40:28,528
I don't I'm I'm I'm still clinging to hope that he's playing 3D chess.

639
00:40:28,668 --> 00:40:32,548
And what we're seeing is a guy who's battling dark forces.

640
00:40:33,088 --> 00:40:39,048
And what we're seeing is the wins that he can get, not the wins that he wants.

641
00:40:40,028 --> 00:40:44,688
Whereas I'm totally sympathetic to the view that he's all part of the problem.

642
00:40:44,768 --> 00:40:47,248
It's all bullshit. And he's a liar.

643
00:40:47,248 --> 00:40:49,648
And I think he's a bigger psyop than COVID.

644
00:40:49,648 --> 00:40:54,688
I have no problem with that theory. You and I are not going to get in a fight over that theory.

645
00:40:55,888 --> 00:40:58,648
So, and when I say hope, it's only because...

646
00:40:59,208 --> 00:41:03,588
Do you think he makes it through the midterms? I don't know if he makes it through the end of the year.

647
00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:06,328
You mean just because of his health? Because of his health?

648
00:41:06,328 --> 00:41:12,368
I think that it's... First of all, I think that maybe they're not getting everything they want out of him.

649
00:41:12,588 --> 00:41:14,248
Oh, I think they're getting everything they want.

650
00:41:14,568 --> 00:41:16,948
I think they're getting some things. I think they want Vance.

651
00:41:16,948 --> 00:41:19,748
And I think, I don't know if they want to wait for a vote.

652
00:41:19,748 --> 00:41:22,448
But I think Trump is working just fine for them.

653
00:41:22,448 --> 00:41:24,948
They're getting everything they want.

654
00:41:24,948 --> 00:41:26,948
What are they not getting?

655
00:41:26,948 --> 00:41:32,648
I don't think they're getting enough, probably more technological surveillance.

656
00:41:32,648 --> 00:41:33,948
You know, Aaron Day?

657
00:41:33,948 --> 00:41:49,822
Yeah yeah Aaron Day did a podcast with him yesterday He thinks they getting everything That one of the reasons I want to have him on the show You should have him on the show And he looks at AI very interesting I think too Well he was in the tech world before Amazon was invented right

658
00:41:49,902 --> 00:41:53,502
I mean, he was ground zero in the tech world.

659
00:41:53,502 --> 00:42:03,722
And he's got an interesting presentation where it's a combination of optimism about AI and where it could go and what it could do.

660
00:42:03,722 --> 00:42:08,602
and has no trouble with the idea that it could be catastrophic

661
00:42:08,602 --> 00:42:11,582
in some short, medium-term thing.

662
00:42:12,002 --> 00:42:13,802
I look at Sam Altman and I go,

663
00:42:13,982 --> 00:42:16,122
there's no way that guy's anything but trouble.

664
00:42:17,122 --> 00:42:17,782
No chance.

665
00:42:18,242 --> 00:42:21,502
I mean, that interview, I forget who it was with.

666
00:42:22,402 --> 00:42:24,102
He said you're accusing me?

667
00:42:24,482 --> 00:42:24,702
Yeah.

668
00:42:25,222 --> 00:42:25,922
Yeah, it was Tucker.

669
00:42:26,282 --> 00:42:28,302
It was like a Christopher Guest movie.

670
00:42:29,082 --> 00:42:29,402
Right.

671
00:42:29,562 --> 00:42:31,602
He said, it sounds like you're accusing me,

672
00:42:31,682 --> 00:42:33,122
and Tucker said, oh, no, no, no,

673
00:42:33,122 --> 00:42:34,442
I'm just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

674
00:42:34,582 --> 00:42:39,502
You know, it's about Sam's co-worker who had a suspicious suicide

675
00:42:39,502 --> 00:42:42,782
that sounded more like a friend of the Clintons than anything.

676
00:42:43,102 --> 00:42:45,362
And Sam says, ah, sounds like you're accusing me.

677
00:42:46,062 --> 00:42:47,682
And Tucker says, oh, no, no, no, no.

678
00:42:47,762 --> 00:42:49,502
And Tucker just said, I'm just asking about it.

679
00:42:49,502 --> 00:42:51,782
And then he says, it sounds like you're accusing me.

680
00:42:51,882 --> 00:42:53,302
And then Tucker did, oh, no, no, no.

681
00:42:53,322 --> 00:42:55,902
And then he says, it sounds like you're accusing me, right?

682
00:42:56,382 --> 00:43:00,302
And Sam was trying to tee up Tucker for a lawsuit or something.

683
00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:02,382
I don't know what he was trying to do.

684
00:43:02,382 --> 00:43:04,982
or warning him, don't go there.

685
00:43:05,842 --> 00:43:06,482
Because, by the way,

686
00:43:06,602 --> 00:43:08,262
it was like basically based on the evidence.

687
00:43:08,542 --> 00:43:10,522
I mean, it appears that,

688
00:43:10,862 --> 00:43:14,282
and their family feels that you were somewhat or highly involved.

689
00:43:14,462 --> 00:43:17,782
It seemed like Tucker was like, well, I can understand why people might.

690
00:43:17,782 --> 00:43:19,202
Tucker was saying someone whacked him.

691
00:43:19,382 --> 00:43:21,222
Tucker was saying it looks like someone whacked him.

692
00:43:21,522 --> 00:43:21,822
Okay.

693
00:43:22,562 --> 00:43:24,282
Not like you're the someone?

694
00:43:24,722 --> 00:43:27,102
No, I think he left that.

695
00:43:27,102 --> 00:43:30,402
Tucker likes to leave things to the imagination of the listener.

696
00:43:30,402 --> 00:43:36,642
So he did his 9-11 series, which to me wasn't a great series because he left too much to the imagination.

697
00:43:37,042 --> 00:43:37,422
Okay, someone whacked him.

698
00:43:37,622 --> 00:43:42,642
What do you think the odds were Sam Altman was involved with that someone or knew of him?

699
00:43:42,642 --> 00:43:45,802
I'm not qualified, but if I had to guess.

700
00:43:46,862 --> 00:43:47,422
No, no, no.

701
00:43:47,522 --> 00:43:52,562
But if I had to say what I think Tucker believes, I'd say, yeah, he thinks he whacked him.

702
00:43:52,662 --> 00:43:53,902
But he wasn't going to say it.

703
00:43:54,022 --> 00:43:55,402
So that's insane.

704
00:43:55,642 --> 00:43:58,902
Like, it's like talking to, like, you know, Saddam Hussein.

705
00:43:58,902 --> 00:44:02,502
Like, it's like literally you're talking to a dictator, like someone who's had people killed.

706
00:44:03,142 --> 00:44:03,502
Right.

707
00:44:03,742 --> 00:44:09,362
If he whacked his co-worker, you're accusing a guy who whacked his co-worker of whacking his co-worker.

708
00:44:09,622 --> 00:44:10,922
Seems like a problem, right?

709
00:44:10,962 --> 00:44:12,702
On top of a trillion dollar business.

710
00:44:13,842 --> 00:44:14,242
Right.

711
00:44:14,502 --> 00:44:17,342
I mean, that is a lot of assassins with that money.

712
00:44:17,662 --> 00:44:17,902
Yeah.

713
00:44:17,962 --> 00:44:19,842
I mean, if people are going to cheat at Powerball.

714
00:44:20,102 --> 00:44:20,662
I know.

715
00:44:21,162 --> 00:44:23,062
Which is nothing compared to AI.

716
00:44:23,062 --> 00:44:30,562
I mean, I also I mean, I think it's possible these Epstein files and emails and I'm not saying I mean, they seem to be coming out.

717
00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:34,222
Seem to be later emails after Trump was elected.

718
00:44:34,222 --> 00:44:38,622
But I mean, this this kind of thing could take Trump down in weeks.

719
00:44:38,942 --> 00:44:40,422
Or it could just be teasing us.

720
00:44:40,742 --> 00:44:43,042
Or it could be teasing us and be sort of like a steel dossier.

721
00:44:43,222 --> 00:44:44,942
Like someone posted something today.

722
00:44:45,102 --> 00:44:50,342
I saw again, I'm not paying attention because for some reason I no longer care because I don't think we're going to get a straight answer.

723
00:44:50,882 --> 00:44:51,042
Yeah.

724
00:44:51,042 --> 00:44:56,362
I think all these guys have been indicted who probably should go to prison for 20 years for treason.

725
00:44:57,142 --> 00:44:57,262
Right?

726
00:44:57,642 --> 00:45:00,042
Comey, Clapper, Brennan, these guys.

727
00:45:00,282 --> 00:45:01,582
They're not going to go to prison.

728
00:45:01,722 --> 00:45:01,942
No.

729
00:45:02,842 --> 00:45:03,102
Right?

730
00:45:03,662 --> 00:45:05,222
Here's what I think Trump's doing.

731
00:45:05,322 --> 00:45:09,142
He's putting the bad guys on defense.

732
00:45:10,302 --> 00:45:14,442
So they can spend the next three years, instead of being bad guys, playing defense.

733
00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:16,142
I don't know.

734
00:45:16,142 --> 00:45:20,282
No, if you've got your enemies playing defense, they can't play offense.

735
00:45:20,842 --> 00:45:23,742
That's what they did to him for four years.

736
00:45:24,042 --> 00:45:24,242
Right.

737
00:45:24,542 --> 00:45:25,502
They made him play defense.

738
00:45:25,782 --> 00:45:27,722
Isn't he going to play defense for the last two years?

739
00:45:27,722 --> 00:45:28,102
I don't know.

740
00:45:28,442 --> 00:45:28,742
I don't know.

741
00:45:29,562 --> 00:45:31,042
I'm not sure he looks that far out.

742
00:45:31,302 --> 00:45:33,122
But I didn't even, you might be right.

743
00:45:33,182 --> 00:45:34,262
He could be totally kayfabe.

744
00:45:34,342 --> 00:45:35,582
He could be just a psyop.

745
00:45:35,582 --> 00:45:36,302
I think it's all kayfabe.

746
00:45:36,302 --> 00:45:39,382
I think even this, even if he doesn't go down for the Epstein things,

747
00:45:39,462 --> 00:45:40,162
I think it's kayfabe.

748
00:45:40,522 --> 00:45:40,962
Either way.

749
00:45:40,982 --> 00:45:45,762
I had a guy call me and tell me a ton of stuff that connected various

750
00:45:45,762 --> 00:45:50,762
relatives of Candace Owens with Charlie Kirk, right?

751
00:45:50,762 --> 00:45:51,762
So there's an obituary.

752
00:45:51,762 --> 00:45:54,762
He sent me an obituary, for example, of a woman named Erica Kirk.

753
00:45:54,762 --> 00:46:00,242
It's a little odd that Erica and Kirk show up in one person's name.

754
00:46:00,242 --> 00:46:05,122
It's a woman and you go, and he says that is a relative of, I can't even remember.

755
00:46:05,122 --> 00:46:07,422
So he told me all the shit over the phone for about an hour and a half.

756
00:46:07,422 --> 00:46:10,442
I said, you have to make a diagram.

757
00:46:10,442 --> 00:46:15,662
You have to make a graphical depiction showing these connectivities because it's not processable

758
00:46:15,662 --> 00:46:23,902
by a phone call. You've got to make a diagram. Now, he's talking about not being able to trust

759
00:46:23,902 --> 00:46:28,722
anyone. He sent it to someone who shall remain nameless, but a name we know. And then he realized

760
00:46:28,722 --> 00:46:33,642
that he sent it potentially to the enemy, and he realized I shouldn't have sent it to that person.

761
00:46:34,122 --> 00:46:39,402
And he was able to get through to that person. And that surprised me. And he said,

762
00:46:39,542 --> 00:46:45,042
I got through because I sent enough information. I say, oh, tell me what you have, right?

763
00:46:45,662 --> 00:46:49,182
And he said, there's no one I can trust.

764
00:46:49,282 --> 00:46:53,022
I said, well, how do you know I'm not a psyop?

765
00:46:54,002 --> 00:46:55,542
And he says, I don't.

766
00:46:56,302 --> 00:47:02,022
He says, but you spend enough time doing other random shit that if you're a psyop, you're wasting a lot of your time.

767
00:47:03,342 --> 00:47:06,502
So I'm saying, okay, that's pretty good reasoning.

768
00:47:07,302 --> 00:47:10,382
Would you connect Melania to the Epstein thing?

769
00:47:10,442 --> 00:47:11,442
I mean, I've heard rumors that.

770
00:47:11,522 --> 00:47:14,522
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771
00:47:14,522 --> 00:47:19,462
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772
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773
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774
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775
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776
00:47:39,082 --> 00:47:43,842
Well, yes, but not getting uncomfortable.

777
00:47:44,562 --> 00:47:53,142
And that is to say that I think Epstein, one of the theories of Epstein out there is that it was less about blackmail and more about social lubrication.

778
00:47:53,142 --> 00:48:01,082
And that is you bring in famous people who are pervs and you know that they like children and you know that they like teenage girls or whatever.

779
00:48:01,262 --> 00:48:04,582
And so you provide that. And that's what Epstein was doing.

780
00:48:04,582 --> 00:48:09,262
I think that's a watered-down version of what Epstein was doing, but I can't rule it out.

781
00:48:09,322 --> 00:48:11,682
I think it was Mike Benz who said that.

782
00:48:11,822 --> 00:48:18,342
Now, Mike Benz is a complicated person because he's encyclopedic on stuff that tells me he's deeply embedded in the system.

783
00:48:18,522 --> 00:48:20,142
And where he got it, I don't know.

784
00:48:20,242 --> 00:48:21,582
He says the right stuff.

785
00:48:21,702 --> 00:48:25,882
And we are connected, and we've had a few brief digital chats and stuff.

786
00:48:26,102 --> 00:48:32,162
And, you know, I can't criticize him, but he's deeply knowledgeable about this dark world.

787
00:48:32,162 --> 00:48:48,662
And so I think it's possible that Epstein provided dates to powerful people with the hottest babes on the planet and they linked up.

788
00:48:49,142 --> 00:48:54,622
So Melania coming through Epstein might just be that it was a date, an arranged date.

789
00:48:55,022 --> 00:48:59,262
Sure. Yeah. I mean, how arranged is really one of the questions I would think.

790
00:48:59,262 --> 00:49:06,102
But, you know, you go from sort of the social lubrication side to, I mean, Epstein was connected to MIT, Bill Gates.

791
00:49:06,102 --> 00:49:08,642
Well, MIT has problems. Stanford has problems.

792
00:49:09,022 --> 00:49:14,402
Labs on his compound, you know, doing medical experiments.

793
00:49:14,642 --> 00:49:16,482
There are rumors. I mean, it seems.

794
00:49:16,702 --> 00:49:17,762
I know. It's dark.

795
00:49:17,882 --> 00:49:23,202
But then it's weird because his background is so strange where he's like, he's a dropout, a high school dropout.

796
00:49:23,722 --> 00:49:27,622
I know this story. And then teaches at the prestigious all-girls school.

797
00:49:27,622 --> 00:49:30,002
by what's his face's father

798
00:49:30,002 --> 00:49:30,482
Donald

799
00:49:30,482 --> 00:49:33,402
the attorney general's

800
00:49:33,402 --> 00:49:36,122
son or father

801
00:49:36,122 --> 00:49:37,342
who wrote the perverted

802
00:49:37,342 --> 00:49:39,062
science fiction books

803
00:49:39,062 --> 00:49:40,922
I mean it goes on and on

804
00:49:40,922 --> 00:49:43,902
he ends up working at Morgan Stanley

805
00:49:43,902 --> 00:49:44,942
for Ace

806
00:49:44,942 --> 00:49:48,042
but no one knows who the fuck he is really

807
00:49:48,042 --> 00:49:51,382
but then he's allegedly

808
00:49:51,382 --> 00:49:53,662
super smart guy

809
00:49:53,662 --> 00:49:55,082
hanging out with scientists

810
00:49:55,082 --> 00:49:57,442
figuring out the future of the world with AI

811
00:49:57,442 --> 00:50:00,182
crypto and transhumanism.

812
00:50:00,182 --> 00:50:02,942
He was kind of a human router.

813
00:50:03,562 --> 00:50:07,102
Ghislaine supposedly flies helicopters and submarines.

814
00:50:07,582 --> 00:50:12,322
His job was to connect with extremely powerful people

815
00:50:12,322 --> 00:50:15,162
and connect them with extremely powerful people.

816
00:50:16,102 --> 00:50:17,742
And he was a human router.

817
00:50:18,162 --> 00:50:20,182
I actually understand that a little bit.

818
00:50:20,362 --> 00:50:22,742
I have a little bit of that gene in me.

819
00:50:22,922 --> 00:50:26,262
So if I see a podcaster and I see someone

820
00:50:26,262 --> 00:50:28,942
I think it was a good idea, I'll connect him.

821
00:50:29,322 --> 00:50:29,402
Right.

822
00:50:29,682 --> 00:50:31,962
It's kind of an instinct or something.

823
00:50:32,102 --> 00:50:34,102
And maybe I should have been a talent scout or something.

824
00:50:34,322 --> 00:50:36,182
And so he certainly did that.

825
00:50:36,482 --> 00:50:39,382
He certainly was networking.

826
00:50:39,582 --> 00:50:41,162
He was a professional networker.

827
00:50:41,562 --> 00:50:48,862
And so I do think, though, that there's incredibly dark stuff under the surface.

828
00:50:48,862 --> 00:50:56,362
I one time was on a Zoom call with an Army intel officer who's famous as hell named Tony Schaffer.

829
00:50:57,362 --> 00:51:03,102
And he is unambiguously Army intelligence because they booted him and he's famous.

830
00:51:03,502 --> 00:51:07,802
And I asked him, you know, the Clinton Foundation traffic children, he said, absolutely.

831
00:51:08,642 --> 00:51:13,822
That's on a public podcast that has about 500 clicks total.

832
00:51:14,442 --> 00:51:16,342
But he said, absolutely, yeah, sure.

833
00:51:16,562 --> 00:51:17,042
Right.

834
00:51:17,042 --> 00:51:20,142
Madonna and Oprah, it seems like they all have these.

835
00:51:20,222 --> 00:51:22,522
Oprah always gets a finger pointed at her.

836
00:51:23,242 --> 00:51:26,062
And it's complicated because she knows everybody.

837
00:51:26,322 --> 00:51:28,442
So she's going to get a guilt by proximity.

838
00:51:29,402 --> 00:51:32,582
But then all of a sudden there's pictures of her with a guy named Father of God.

839
00:51:32,802 --> 00:51:33,022
Right.

840
00:51:34,042 --> 00:51:39,002
There's pictures of Rosalind Carter with Reverend Jim Jones of Jonestown.

841
00:51:39,462 --> 00:51:43,942
Other pictures of her with John Wayne Gacy, the guy with 33 bodies in his basement.

842
00:51:43,942 --> 00:51:46,462
What the hell is Rosalind Carter doing hanging around with that?

843
00:51:46,462 --> 00:51:56,362
It just, the world, and someone said to me, I can't remember, but someone I thought was kind of new this shit said that Carter was very much in the club.

844
00:51:57,262 --> 00:51:59,982
The club being the guys in the know.

845
00:52:00,322 --> 00:52:04,102
He wasn't some outsider peanut farmer that he was sold as.

846
00:52:04,342 --> 00:52:07,562
I'm sure Vance is deep psyop.

847
00:52:07,882 --> 00:52:10,522
I mean, that seems unambiguous almost, right?

848
00:52:10,762 --> 00:52:13,462
Yeah, it's a magical fairy tale, the ride.

849
00:52:13,862 --> 00:52:14,302
Yeah.

850
00:52:14,302 --> 00:52:16,302
A lot of cool things.

851
00:52:16,462 --> 00:52:20,602
The theology was to tee up the story, you know, the whole thing.

852
00:52:21,022 --> 00:52:22,822
He was living in Ohio at that point.

853
00:52:22,882 --> 00:52:26,282
So he was raised by hillbillies maybe, but he wasn't a hillbilly.

854
00:52:26,282 --> 00:52:27,782
Went to Yale, I think, with Vivek.

855
00:52:28,342 --> 00:52:28,822
Right.

856
00:52:29,082 --> 00:52:30,122
Way too many connections.

857
00:52:30,242 --> 00:52:32,282
All of a sudden he gets out of Yale Law School.

858
00:52:32,522 --> 00:52:33,062
Tings out with Teal.

859
00:52:33,202 --> 00:52:35,322
Schmidt and Teal and these guys.

860
00:52:35,922 --> 00:52:38,402
This is a little too convenient for me.

861
00:52:38,682 --> 00:52:38,902
Yeah.

862
00:52:39,282 --> 00:52:41,062
But Obama's fucked up, right?

863
00:52:41,202 --> 00:52:41,982
They're all fucked up.

864
00:52:42,062 --> 00:52:42,942
The Clintons are fucked up.

865
00:52:43,182 --> 00:52:46,042
So someone said it.

866
00:52:46,042 --> 00:52:50,642
They said, you know, every four years we vote for president and we end up with John McCain.

867
00:52:50,942 --> 00:52:51,502
What is it?

868
00:52:52,022 --> 00:52:54,862
It means that no matter who you elect, you end up with John McCain.

869
00:52:55,002 --> 00:52:57,342
You end up with some guy who's going to bomb the shit out of people.

870
00:52:57,942 --> 00:53:00,182
And John McCain is a dark past.

871
00:53:00,362 --> 00:53:06,782
John McCain, besides the fact that his POW story is obviously embellished up the kazoo,

872
00:53:06,882 --> 00:53:13,922
but he also at one point was hot dogging in his jet and it caused an explosion and killed some like 94 sailors.

873
00:53:13,922 --> 00:53:16,042
and that all got covered up.

874
00:53:16,782 --> 00:53:18,902
And then his wife, Cindy,

875
00:53:19,562 --> 00:53:21,642
was talking about how no one did anything about Epstein.

876
00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:23,042
Well, she worked for an organization

877
00:53:23,042 --> 00:53:25,562
that was supposed to fight for human rights

878
00:53:25,562 --> 00:53:27,442
and bring dignity to life and stuff like that.

879
00:53:27,482 --> 00:53:28,542
And I go, how about you, Cindy?

880
00:53:29,522 --> 00:53:30,722
I've written about this

881
00:53:30,722 --> 00:53:32,522
because Cindy is one of the many

882
00:53:32,522 --> 00:53:33,902
who've attacked me this year.

883
00:53:33,902 --> 00:53:36,382
And so fuck you, Cindy.

884
00:53:37,542 --> 00:53:39,302
You know, you're going to eat my shorts.

885
00:53:39,822 --> 00:53:41,302
What do you think in this new era of like,

886
00:53:41,702 --> 00:53:42,802
you brought up Candace Owens

887
00:53:42,802 --> 00:53:44,762
and Nick Fuentes.

888
00:53:46,102 --> 00:53:47,262
How do you explain?

889
00:53:48,122 --> 00:53:52,082
How would you put them in the spectrum?

890
00:53:52,702 --> 00:53:53,962
How would you explain them?

891
00:53:54,462 --> 00:53:56,722
Candace, there are people who are trying.

892
00:53:57,162 --> 00:54:02,982
She's now being discredited with the greatest of effort imaginable.

893
00:54:03,242 --> 00:54:06,922
So they're really trying to destroy any reputation of hers.

894
00:54:08,462 --> 00:54:11,062
Could she herself be a psyop?

895
00:54:11,062 --> 00:54:13,162
I can't rule it out

896
00:54:13,162 --> 00:54:15,182
for once you hide around with Charlie

897
00:54:15,182 --> 00:54:17,122
if the Charlie stories fucked up

898
00:54:17,122 --> 00:54:18,442
then the Candace Owens stories

899
00:54:18,442 --> 00:54:21,262
I was supposed to have dinner with Candace and Charlie one time

900
00:54:21,262 --> 00:54:23,142
and the event got cancelled

901
00:54:23,142 --> 00:54:25,382
because free speech is not allowed on a college

902
00:54:25,382 --> 00:54:26,682
campus you know that sort of thing

903
00:54:26,682 --> 00:54:27,922
Was that at Cornell?

904
00:54:28,762 --> 00:54:31,482
Yeah, the student just raised so much hell

905
00:54:31,482 --> 00:54:32,262
they say fuck it

906
00:54:32,262 --> 00:54:34,902
Years ago

907
00:54:34,902 --> 00:54:36,842
Like 10 years ago or 8?

908
00:54:38,002 --> 00:54:39,422
Maybe 8

909
00:54:39,422 --> 00:54:44,622
maybe five. It was before anyone who really knew who they were. And then they tried to take it off

910
00:54:44,622 --> 00:54:49,202
campus and they got a venue and then all of a sudden the venue discovered that it was a

911
00:54:49,202 --> 00:54:52,982
controversial thing. They said, fuck that, you're not coming here. And so they just canceled.

912
00:54:53,282 --> 00:55:00,522
So in any case, it is almost as though nothing is as it appears to be, that everyone is

913
00:55:00,522 --> 00:55:08,782
compromised. I hope like hell that someone like Ron Johnson isn't. He seems like a nice guy. He

914
00:55:08,782 --> 00:55:16,282
seems to be addressing important problems. I'm a Thomas Massey fan until proven different.

915
00:55:17,282 --> 00:55:22,582
He just got a new wife. Yeah, his wife died. Yeah, 16 months later.

916
00:55:22,582 --> 00:55:33,062
I'm not going to tell a guy how to live that part of his life. If he was banging her the whole way, that's more of a problem. But I mean, it's not like

917
00:55:33,096 --> 00:55:36,676
People in positions of power don't bag chicks, right?

918
00:55:37,516 --> 00:55:43,776
If that's their biggest shortcoming, we probably have to suck that up and say, okay.

919
00:55:44,596 --> 00:55:48,056
The guys who get into these positions are not normal.

920
00:55:49,876 --> 00:55:55,916
That you can open up a newspaper and read horrible things about yourself and not be driven insane

921
00:55:55,916 --> 00:55:59,916
is a sign that you're wired different than most of us.

922
00:56:00,176 --> 00:56:01,596
What do you think of Steve Bannon?

923
00:56:01,596 --> 00:56:03,516
and he seems to be in these emails again

924
00:56:03,516 --> 00:56:06,036
and he seems to be a connective tissue

925
00:56:06,036 --> 00:56:07,376
between Epstein and Trump.

926
00:56:07,376 --> 00:56:09,196
I like Steve Bannon.

927
00:56:10,296 --> 00:56:12,196
I was on a Zoom call with him actually too.

928
00:56:12,536 --> 00:56:13,236
I was pissed.

929
00:56:13,396 --> 00:56:14,736
I was on a Zoom call with him too.

930
00:56:15,516 --> 00:56:17,216
I was pissed at the other Zoom callers

931
00:56:17,216 --> 00:56:18,496
because they had a chance.

932
00:56:18,696 --> 00:56:21,836
It was right before Trump's inauguration

933
00:56:21,836 --> 00:56:25,996
and we have a chance of asking the guy who,

934
00:56:26,596 --> 00:56:30,256
yeah, we have a chance of asking questions to Steve

935
00:56:30,256 --> 00:56:34,836
about what he thinks is going to happen

936
00:56:34,836 --> 00:56:36,456
when Trump takes the reins

937
00:56:36,456 --> 00:56:39,796
and everyone on this fucking Zoom call

938
00:56:39,796 --> 00:56:41,736
thinks it's their job to tell Steve

939
00:56:41,736 --> 00:56:42,976
what their opinion is.

940
00:56:44,796 --> 00:56:45,616
And I'm going,

941
00:56:45,736 --> 00:56:48,236
just shut the fuck up and ask a good question.

942
00:56:49,056 --> 00:56:50,596
You got Steve Bannon.

943
00:56:50,596 --> 00:56:51,416
I recall with the Bitcoiners,

944
00:56:51,736 --> 00:56:52,996
they were all great,

945
00:56:53,116 --> 00:56:53,956
but like they were...

946
00:56:53,956 --> 00:56:55,396
Yeah, I know, I know.

947
00:56:55,396 --> 00:56:56,076
I'm going to ask you a question.

948
00:56:56,476 --> 00:56:57,636
I mean,

949
00:56:57,636 --> 00:57:02,916
And yeah, I mean, he just he did like 18 hours of interviews or something with Epstein that haven't been released.

950
00:57:03,776 --> 00:57:05,656
But anyone ask him about Russiagate?

951
00:57:05,976 --> 00:57:07,336
Did anyone ask Bannon about Russia?

952
00:57:08,596 --> 00:57:14,056
No, but I'll tell you, you want to know about Russiagate by Jerome Corsi's book, Coup d'Etat.

953
00:57:15,436 --> 00:57:21,876
Everything that Tulsi Gabbard's told us, plus a thousand times more, is in Jerome Corsi's book.

954
00:57:21,876 --> 00:57:25,216
So Jerome Corsi, by the way, is in my Zoom group.

955
00:57:25,216 --> 00:57:29,956
and he talks about occasionally, he gives a talk

956
00:57:29,956 --> 00:57:33,416
but he's there and he's fun to talk to

957
00:57:33,416 --> 00:57:37,276
he got deposed for 40 hours during Russiagate

958
00:57:37,276 --> 00:57:40,616
because they were convinced that he was the connection to Assange

959
00:57:40,616 --> 00:57:42,856
and so they threatened him with

960
00:57:42,856 --> 00:57:46,036
you're going to go to prison for 20 years if you don't rat out Trump

961
00:57:46,036 --> 00:57:48,216
and he chose not to rat out Trump

962
00:57:48,216 --> 00:57:51,856
and during his Zoom call, just while I'm listening

963
00:57:51,856 --> 00:57:57,816
I'm searching and there's CNN articles about Jerome Corsi being deposed and and you know will

964
00:57:57,816 --> 00:58:03,116
he take the stand that sort of thing and he said no I'm not doing it and and then they let him go

965
00:58:03,116 --> 00:58:07,536
they they didn't follow through with putting him in prison I don't doubt they'd throw you in prison

966
00:58:07,536 --> 00:58:14,476
for 20 years just to be vindictive I don't doubt that you know if if they ever did that to me they'd

967
00:58:14,476 --> 00:58:19,096
have to throw me in jail for the rest of my life because I promise you when I got out there'd be

968
00:58:19,096 --> 00:58:25,896
hell to pay. Now, maybe I'd be a broken man, but I don't think so. I would, no, I have no idea.

969
00:58:26,696 --> 00:58:31,376
I'd like to think, my fantasy is that if they put me in jail for 20 years, I got out,

970
00:58:31,376 --> 00:58:36,716
I'd be a grizzled old man, but I'd find out who did it to me. I'd get even.

971
00:58:37,176 --> 00:58:40,676
That's interesting. What do you think of Bongino and Patel?

972
00:58:41,156 --> 00:58:47,996
Patel looks like a total loser to me. I think Bongino got suckered. I think Bongino went in

973
00:58:47,996 --> 00:58:49,836
thinking he was going to have an effect.

974
00:58:50,576 --> 00:58:53,696
I think he paid a very high price.

975
00:58:54,936 --> 00:58:58,356
Patel, I think, is fucked up from head to toe at this point.

976
00:58:58,436 --> 00:58:59,936
I've given up on Patel completely.

977
00:59:00,336 --> 00:59:03,516
And the low point of the Epstein files,

978
00:59:03,796 --> 00:59:07,036
it didn't start well when Bondi, who I think is an idiot,

979
00:59:08,716 --> 00:59:11,576
and I'd written about her years back during,

980
00:59:11,576 --> 00:59:12,956
I think it was Hurricane Katrina,

981
00:59:13,136 --> 00:59:16,916
where I talked about stupid things she said during that.

982
00:59:16,916 --> 00:59:24,156
But when she gave out the folders that had information that was pretty much at the level that I knew, right?

983
00:59:24,276 --> 00:59:26,836
This was not critical information.

984
00:59:28,056 --> 00:59:30,276
And somehow thought that was adequate.

985
00:59:31,356 --> 00:59:37,696
And I'm going, you are in such an echo chamber, you don't realize that we all know that's bullshit?

986
00:59:38,736 --> 00:59:40,156
And so they say, oh, they lied to me.

987
00:59:40,236 --> 00:59:42,096
I go, no, they didn't lie to you.

988
00:59:42,156 --> 00:59:43,336
You lied to us, right?

989
00:59:43,396 --> 00:59:45,816
So then we don't get anything.

990
00:59:45,816 --> 00:59:58,736
And some journalists, the low point, the second to lowest point was when Bongino and Patel said there's no evidence that he trafficked women.

991
00:59:58,956 --> 01:00:00,216
I'm going, oh, come on.

992
01:00:00,676 --> 01:00:05,756
But I think Bongino at that point was blinking SOS with his eyelids.

993
01:00:06,296 --> 01:00:13,436
I think he was so out there trying to figure out how he got into this mess.

994
01:00:14,056 --> 01:00:15,716
That's my hope.

995
01:00:15,816 --> 01:00:21,316
my hope, because he sure talked like he was going to do it. And I thought he believed it.

996
01:00:21,516 --> 01:00:26,836
I tend to believe he believed it. Patel, I read his book trying to understand Patel, and I said,

997
01:00:26,836 --> 01:00:33,356
well, if he's not lying in his book, then he's a good appointment. I'm now fully convinced he's a

998
01:00:33,356 --> 01:00:39,736
terrible appointment. Whether his wife is an Israeli spy is an interesting question, or his

999
01:00:39,736 --> 01:00:45,636
girlfriend. The low point, however, is when a journalist asked Pam Bondi, what about the tapes?

1000
01:00:46,356 --> 01:00:50,016
Are we going to see those? And she said, they're just child porn. You're not going to get them.

1001
01:00:50,016 --> 01:00:56,376
And I go, did you hear what you just said? They're just child pornography.

1002
01:00:57,756 --> 01:01:02,756
You're not going to get them. And I go, that's exactly why we want. Blur out the kids,

1003
01:01:03,096 --> 01:01:05,696
blur out the body parts, show us the faces.

1004
01:01:05,976 --> 01:01:07,096
That's the demoralization campaign.

1005
01:01:07,096 --> 01:01:12,136
you're that's the demoralization campaign right they're child porn and you're not going to get

1006
01:01:12,136 --> 01:01:17,576
them right but it makes makes she's not makes me she makes me hope that she eat and die

1007
01:01:18,536 --> 01:01:24,136
right which i think is the desire they want 50 of the people to hate the other 50 of the people

1008
01:01:24,776 --> 01:01:32,216
no no we don't hate each other on that one we all hate them we hate them that person voted for the

1009
01:01:32,216 --> 01:01:34,316
a person I hate. No, I don't care

1010
01:01:34,316 --> 01:01:36,076
about who voted for what. We hate

1011
01:01:36,076 --> 01:01:36,836
that.

1012
01:01:37,636 --> 01:01:40,256
I hate Pam Bondi for saying that.

1013
01:01:40,936 --> 01:01:41,856
And by the way,

1014
01:01:42,216 --> 01:01:43,336
she's so stupid.

1015
01:01:44,176 --> 01:01:45,996
Here's what I think Trump could have done.

1016
01:01:46,056 --> 01:01:48,176
I think it's possible that they opened the

1017
01:01:48,176 --> 01:01:50,136
files and said, holy shit,

1018
01:01:50,216 --> 01:01:51,636
we can't release these.

1019
01:01:52,696 --> 01:01:54,116
Right? So if

1020
01:01:54,116 --> 01:01:55,556
by releasing the files,

1021
01:01:56,876 --> 01:01:58,256
Western democracies

1022
01:01:58,256 --> 01:01:59,776
would collapse all over the world.

1023
01:02:00,356 --> 01:02:00,456
Right?

1024
01:02:00,456 --> 01:02:04,636
is that worth releasing those files and you can make

1025
01:02:04,636 --> 01:02:08,516
Ron Johnson and Brett Weinstein debated this question

1026
01:02:08,516 --> 01:02:12,496
and Brett said we have to clean the system

1027
01:02:12,496 --> 01:02:16,556
we got to release things like that like on 9-11 and Ron Johnson

1028
01:02:16,556 --> 01:02:20,096
said are you sure it's worth it

1029
01:02:20,096 --> 01:02:23,816
now Ron Johnson wasn't saying that 9-11 was an inside job he's just saying

1030
01:02:23,816 --> 01:02:28,096
are you sure it's worth it and it's a valid question

1031
01:02:28,096 --> 01:02:32,056
because you say, well, you know, if we do this and, you know,

1032
01:02:32,676 --> 01:02:36,296
a million children will die, you go, would that be worth it?

1033
01:02:36,716 --> 01:02:38,036
And the answer is no, right?

1034
01:02:38,156 --> 01:02:40,496
So there are prices that are too high to pay.

1035
01:02:40,496 --> 01:02:44,496
I think it's also possible the Epstein files would have permeated

1036
01:02:45,076 --> 01:02:48,516
way more than just the hugely prominent guys.

1037
01:02:49,476 --> 01:02:52,716
It might have really dug deep into areas that you go,

1038
01:02:52,836 --> 01:02:55,376
oh, I didn't see that coming, you know, that sort of thing.

1039
01:02:55,776 --> 01:02:55,856
Yeah.

1040
01:02:55,856 --> 01:02:55,916
Yeah.

1041
01:02:56,556 --> 01:02:58,376
And because we don't know who's in them.

1042
01:02:58,696 --> 01:02:59,696
Talk about not seeing his.

1043
01:03:00,096 --> 01:03:03,716
You remember JFK Jr. on what on late night television?

1044
01:03:04,176 --> 01:03:05,876
He was in our Zoom group, by the way.

1045
01:03:06,676 --> 01:03:07,116
Who was?

1046
01:03:07,176 --> 01:03:08,596
I'm telling you, JFK Jr.

1047
01:03:09,056 --> 01:03:09,956
Oh, RFK Jr.

1048
01:03:10,076 --> 01:03:10,216
Sorry.

1049
01:03:10,496 --> 01:03:11,056
JFK Jr.

1050
01:03:11,376 --> 01:03:11,576
Yeah.

1051
01:03:11,736 --> 01:03:13,596
Did I tell you about the JFK Jr. tape?

1052
01:03:13,676 --> 01:03:14,236
Did I tell you that?

1053
01:03:14,316 --> 01:03:15,116
Did you go find it?

1054
01:03:15,636 --> 01:03:16,676
Yeah, of course.

1055
01:03:17,256 --> 01:03:22,416
And that was where Monica Lewinsky showed herself to be trafficked at nine years old.

1056
01:03:22,416 --> 01:03:22,896
Right.

1057
01:03:22,896 --> 01:03:26,736
He reads a poem that he published in George Magazine.

1058
01:03:26,736 --> 01:03:29,856
I mean, how do you get, you know, it begs so many questions.

1059
01:03:30,656 --> 01:03:32,096
And he seems so happy about it.

1060
01:03:32,896 --> 01:03:35,136
Well, happy, I'm not sure.

1061
01:03:35,136 --> 01:03:36,896
But don't forget he's a Kennedy.

1062
01:03:36,896 --> 01:03:39,456
He lived through countless traumas.

1063
01:03:40,336 --> 01:03:43,856
His aunt got lobotomized.

1064
01:03:43,856 --> 01:03:46,496
His father got killed.

1065
01:03:46,496 --> 01:03:48,496
His uncle got killed, right?

1066
01:03:48,496 --> 01:03:58,176
So if JFK Jr. wants to draw some blood, he gets to draw some blood.

1067
01:03:58,596 --> 01:03:59,756
And then, of course, he died.

1068
01:04:00,476 --> 01:04:05,536
Right when he's about to announce a run for the New York State Senate, which Hillary got instead.

1069
01:04:06,616 --> 01:04:06,776
Right?

1070
01:04:07,276 --> 01:04:13,256
If you had to bet your life savings, was Hillary behind JFK Jr. dying or not?

1071
01:04:13,516 --> 01:04:14,116
How would you bet?

1072
01:04:14,336 --> 01:04:14,616
Got him.

1073
01:04:15,296 --> 01:04:16,676
Put the chips all in.

1074
01:04:16,676 --> 01:04:20,076
The fact you're hesitating shows the problem

1075
01:04:20,076 --> 01:04:23,316
Well, I don't buy the official story on JFK Jr.

1076
01:04:23,576 --> 01:04:24,576
I don't know if it was Hillary

1077
01:04:24,576 --> 01:04:25,376
Well, then who killed him?

1078
01:04:26,216 --> 01:04:28,176
Or maybe he didn't die

1079
01:04:28,176 --> 01:04:29,216
I don't know

1080
01:04:29,216 --> 01:04:30,676
I think he died

1081
01:04:30,676 --> 01:04:35,236
JFK Jr., by the way, would have walked into the presidency

1082
01:04:35,236 --> 01:04:36,236
Yeah

1083
01:04:36,236 --> 01:04:37,836
He would have walked into the presidency

1084
01:04:37,836 --> 01:04:40,296
It would have been 90% of the vote

1085
01:04:40,296 --> 01:04:43,276
That guy could have gotten every vote

1086
01:04:43,276 --> 01:04:44,596
Let's start with this

1087
01:04:44,596 --> 01:04:48,796
50% of the population would have his baby, right?

1088
01:04:48,936 --> 01:04:52,916
I mean, the guy was a rock star in the looks category.

1089
01:04:53,216 --> 01:04:54,896
I'm not gay, but I'm not stupid.

1090
01:04:55,936 --> 01:04:59,736
And he was a moderate.

1091
01:04:59,936 --> 01:05:00,796
He was a Kennedy.

1092
01:05:00,996 --> 01:05:02,476
It was Camelot 2.0.

1093
01:05:02,536 --> 01:05:04,276
It was going to be trivial.

1094
01:05:04,776 --> 01:05:06,076
And then he dies.

1095
01:05:06,996 --> 01:05:09,016
I mean, it was beyond shocking.

1096
01:05:09,236 --> 01:05:10,576
I mean, very similar to his father.

1097
01:05:10,576 --> 01:05:18,056
and there's pilots who say that plane crash made no sense i'm not qualified to know to me it it's

1098
01:05:18,056 --> 01:05:24,536
very it's it's very it's similar to like kobe's helicopter crash and that there's just yeah that

1099
01:05:24,536 --> 01:05:30,636
one i've not paid enough attention why would lebron kill kobe i don't know why is there an

1100
01:05:30,636 --> 01:05:35,516
argument for why what's the what's the theory uh well i haven't gone down that rabbit hole the

1101
01:05:35,516 --> 01:05:40,396
the thread there well there are some notable uh very famous people who have lost people their

1102
01:05:40,396 --> 01:05:46,336
lives like kanye and his mom bill cosby and his son michael jordan his dad that and then i think

1103
01:05:46,336 --> 01:05:53,636
um so kobe looks strange to some people on some some angles and then somehow someone i didn't go

1104
01:05:53,636 --> 01:05:57,656
down the rabbit hole but linked lebron and kobe because i think helicopters are dangerous right

1105
01:05:57,656 --> 01:06:02,536
let's start with that some people say beyonce sacrificed when houston uh so there's like sort

1106
01:06:02,536 --> 01:06:07,976
of this like black magic, not in terms of African-American, but sort of like occultist

1107
01:06:07,976 --> 01:06:10,916
magic to climb and accrue power.

1108
01:06:11,196 --> 01:06:13,956
Well, I believe in the occult being active.

1109
01:06:14,956 --> 01:06:15,276
Right.

1110
01:06:15,536 --> 01:06:20,796
I've dug into this shit, and I believe that satanic cults and stuff are active.

1111
01:06:21,796 --> 01:06:29,656
And they are, to someone who is not slowly waded into the baby pool first, then into

1112
01:06:29,656 --> 01:06:36,016
the big pool later. If you've not made that trek systematically, if you read the shit that I

1113
01:06:36,016 --> 01:06:42,916
believe to be true, you would simply not buy it at all because it's so grisly, it's so awful,

1114
01:06:43,136 --> 01:06:48,716
it's such a wretched narrative that you say, that can't be true. That just can't be true.

1115
01:06:48,716 --> 01:06:50,176
I gotta read this poem.

1116
01:06:50,856 --> 01:06:51,616
Read it.

1117
01:06:52,036 --> 01:06:55,516
The poem is a nine-year-old Monica Lewinsky's creative writing piece,

1118
01:06:55,516 --> 01:07:01,956
which JFK Jr. published and brought on late night television in 1998.

1119
01:07:02,576 --> 01:07:03,736
The lyrics are,

1120
01:07:03,916 --> 01:07:04,516
I am a pizza.

1121
01:07:04,836 --> 01:07:08,496
I can be a delicious lunch, dinner, or breakfast if you're weird.

1122
01:07:09,196 --> 01:07:11,056
I have a great deal of toppings on me.

1123
01:07:11,616 --> 01:07:14,976
I am a round and flat piece of dough with lots of toppings.

1124
01:07:15,236 --> 01:07:16,276
I make your mouth water.

1125
01:07:16,896 --> 01:07:18,836
I'm very good to eat, but I'm fattening.

1126
01:07:19,316 --> 01:07:20,616
I am a mouth's best friend.

1127
01:07:20,756 --> 01:07:22,016
I make you say yum yum.

1128
01:07:22,196 --> 01:07:22,896
I am a pizza.

1129
01:07:22,896 --> 01:07:25,756
So if that's not Pizzagate, okay.

1130
01:07:26,876 --> 01:07:28,196
And that's in 1998.

1131
01:07:28,876 --> 01:07:35,576
And, well, JFK Jr. died soon thereafter, so if he was calling out Pizzagate, if that was the shot across the bow.

1132
01:07:36,296 --> 01:07:37,316
But here's the deal.

1133
01:07:37,356 --> 01:07:39,316
Let's say she was trafficked, right?

1134
01:07:39,616 --> 01:07:41,856
Now, I heard she got transferred to the Defense Department.

1135
01:07:42,076 --> 01:07:43,676
When do interns get transferred?

1136
01:07:44,576 --> 01:07:44,816
Right.

1137
01:07:44,956 --> 01:07:45,136
Right?

1138
01:07:45,316 --> 01:07:46,816
That's a funny term for an intern.

1139
01:07:47,376 --> 01:07:49,156
Usually you just say, get the fuck out.

1140
01:07:49,236 --> 01:07:49,976
This is the White House.

1141
01:07:50,016 --> 01:07:50,576
You're not welcome.

1142
01:07:50,576 --> 01:07:53,816
If that's true, we just rewrote a major chapter of history.

1143
01:07:54,516 --> 01:07:58,636
Monica Lewinsky is not some bimbo who Bill banged.

1144
01:07:58,856 --> 01:08:06,536
She was a trafficked, MKUltra trafficked woman with a job to do.

1145
01:08:07,176 --> 01:08:12,376
And as the trafficked women who've survived say, they're all trained to be assassins.

1146
01:08:13,496 --> 01:08:15,336
They are trained to do different.

1147
01:08:16,236 --> 01:08:19,756
You know, Kathy O'Brien, Juliet Engel, you know these names at all?

1148
01:08:20,576 --> 01:08:23,316
They're trafficked women who have survived.

1149
01:08:24,156 --> 01:08:26,296
Those are two of the more famous.

1150
01:08:27,976 --> 01:08:34,516
They're very tricky to listen to because to be brainwashed,

1151
01:08:34,796 --> 01:08:37,976
again, this is the dark part that if this is new to you,

1152
01:08:38,256 --> 01:08:40,396
it will simply not be imaginable.

1153
01:08:40,396 --> 01:08:43,256
But to be brainwashed, what they do is they take you and you're a real little kid.

1154
01:08:44,076 --> 01:08:45,256
And they destroy you.

1155
01:08:45,516 --> 01:08:47,096
They completely and utterly destroy you.

1156
01:08:47,136 --> 01:08:49,716
This is North Korea POW destroy you.

1157
01:08:49,716 --> 01:08:51,916
They turn you into a total schizophrenic.

1158
01:08:51,996 --> 01:08:53,096
You have multiple personalities.

1159
01:08:53,596 --> 01:08:54,676
They reassemble you.

1160
01:08:55,236 --> 01:09:00,356
And they do it through deprivation, through drugs, through torture, through torment.

1161
01:09:01,156 --> 01:09:05,496
I've even heard discussions that guys would dress up in satanic outfits while you're on acid

1162
01:09:05,496 --> 01:09:08,976
so that you have this experience and you see Satan and all this crap, right?

1163
01:09:09,656 --> 01:09:15,176
And then they reassemble you like they were training a working dog.

1164
01:09:15,976 --> 01:09:18,176
There's a video called Mind of a Dog.

1165
01:09:18,176 --> 01:09:35,664
And I watched that and I go this is what MKUltra was doing They were creating the equivalent of working dogs And the different dogs have different personalities They say oh this one should go with the veteran This one should go with the blind guy right And a lot of them flunk out you know And as Annika Lucas says

1166
01:09:35,764 --> 01:09:40,004
we're all trained to be assassins. Annika tells the story that one time she was with a bunch of

1167
01:09:40,004 --> 01:09:45,524
these kids and she complained of being hungry. And the guy leaves the room, walks back in,

1168
01:09:45,524 --> 01:09:53,144
brings a half-rotten corpse of a kid. She said it was, he could tell he's blonde hair, blue-eyed

1169
01:09:53,144 --> 01:09:56,884
sort of kid, but the corpse was rotten. I don't know if it's a blue-eyed, you wouldn't be able to

1170
01:09:56,884 --> 01:10:03,004
see that. And they had to eat it. They were all forced to eat it. She said no amount of salt or

1171
01:10:03,004 --> 01:10:07,404
pepper or whatever would allow you to eat a corpse without. And she was given a puppy.

1172
01:10:08,544 --> 01:10:14,604
And it was just, oh, a puppy. Then she had to kill it. Right? This is what they do. This is how they

1173
01:10:14,604 --> 01:10:16,164
destroy you, then they recreate you.

1174
01:10:17,384 --> 01:10:22,884
Juliet Engle, who is now fighting this cause, said that she actually got a medical degree.

1175
01:10:23,164 --> 01:10:25,064
You go, how would this person get a medical degree?

1176
01:10:25,284 --> 01:10:26,184
They train you.

1177
01:10:26,824 --> 01:10:27,844
You're an assassin.

1178
01:10:28,044 --> 01:10:29,004
You're going to be a doctor.

1179
01:10:29,004 --> 01:10:30,064
You're going to be whatever, right?

1180
01:10:30,064 --> 01:10:31,944
They create whatever they want.

1181
01:10:32,224 --> 01:10:38,364
And what she knew was she didn't have a shred of memory of her childhood, not a shred.

1182
01:10:38,364 --> 01:10:46,204
and then she started getting these little flashes with a lot of help and stuff she pieced together

1183
01:10:46,204 --> 01:10:51,824
sort of memories from her childhood now i asked her i was on a zoom call with those two i asked

1184
01:10:51,824 --> 01:10:57,824
her if she has a mechanism by which because memories are complicated so when you remember

1185
01:10:57,824 --> 01:11:03,124
something from your childhood you're remembering the memory it's you start remembering the memory

1186
01:11:03,124 --> 01:11:04,644
not the event itself.

1187
01:11:04,884 --> 01:11:08,744
And so one time I have a memory of something when I was two years old.

1188
01:11:09,884 --> 01:11:16,064
And what makes it memorable is that we moved from that house when I was two.

1189
01:11:16,884 --> 01:11:21,804
So a valid memory of that house is a valid memory when I was two.

1190
01:11:22,544 --> 01:11:25,464
And I asked my dad, I said, I have a memory of the house.

1191
01:11:25,644 --> 01:11:27,504
I remember being at a birthday party.

1192
01:11:27,644 --> 01:11:31,004
It was down the street in this direction telling him.

1193
01:11:31,544 --> 01:11:33,024
It was a red house.

1194
01:11:33,124 --> 01:11:33,724
It was a girl.

1195
01:11:33,884 --> 01:11:34,624
She had brown hair.

1196
01:11:34,744 --> 01:11:35,584
She was my age.

1197
01:11:35,864 --> 01:11:36,764
But that's all I remember.

1198
01:11:36,864 --> 01:11:38,364
He said, that would be correct.

1199
01:11:38,444 --> 01:11:40,324
He said, that sounds correct to me.

1200
01:11:40,624 --> 01:11:42,824
That describes one of our neighbors.

1201
01:11:45,664 --> 01:11:49,244
But otherwise, memories get vaguer and vaguer.

1202
01:11:49,244 --> 01:11:52,944
And you have some that you swear you remember that are not even true anymore.

1203
01:11:53,064 --> 01:11:58,664
So I asked her, do you have a mechanism to sort through memories and to sort of test their validity?

1204
01:11:59,004 --> 01:12:01,084
And she got defensive pretty quickly.

1205
01:12:01,084 --> 01:12:05,684
And so I backed away very quickly because you don't want to tell a victim you don't believe them.

1206
01:12:06,184 --> 01:12:08,184
Right. So I just immediately backed away.

1207
01:12:09,084 --> 01:12:13,344
But I talked to Nick Bryant, who's an expert at this shit.

1208
01:12:13,424 --> 01:12:14,864
He said their memories are terrible.

1209
01:12:15,444 --> 01:12:22,384
So if you were talking to one of these survivors and you are evaluating them based on the correctness of their memory,

1210
01:12:22,464 --> 01:12:27,224
you're making a huge mistake because their memories are pieced together from fragments.

1211
01:12:27,224 --> 01:12:32,104
and he says there are other indicators he uses.

1212
01:12:32,304 --> 01:12:35,044
He says, I've interviewed so many victims.

1213
01:12:35,164 --> 01:12:38,224
He says, I would say 98% of them,

1214
01:12:38,864 --> 01:12:42,424
he said, in my opinion, 98% of them were not lying.

1215
01:12:42,684 --> 01:12:44,304
So he wasn't running into fakes.

1216
01:12:45,104 --> 01:12:48,284
And the problem is, this gets back to when I look at,

1217
01:12:48,844 --> 01:12:51,944
so I'm on a podcast with Jim Kunstler,

1218
01:12:52,324 --> 01:12:54,004
might've been one of these three or four ways,

1219
01:12:54,004 --> 01:12:56,544
but Jim was the key guy and he has his own podcast.

1220
01:12:57,224 --> 01:13:05,904
But I'm on this podcast and Jim says, I interviewed a woman named Elizabeth Nixon last week.

1221
01:13:05,904 --> 01:13:14,744
And she was, I think she was head of Time Magazine's European division and Life Magazine's American division or vice versa.

1222
01:13:14,944 --> 01:13:17,264
But she was running these major divisions.

1223
01:13:17,264 --> 01:13:18,444
So she was not a lightweight.

1224
01:13:18,784 --> 01:13:23,744
And she starts talking about how she discovered that her mother was a victim of MKUltra.

1225
01:13:23,964 --> 01:13:27,084
And she quit her job and studied MKUltra for three years.

1226
01:13:27,224 --> 01:13:31,544
Nixon spelled N-I-C-K-S-O-N

1227
01:13:31,544 --> 01:13:33,704
and I apologize Elizabeth

1228
01:13:33,704 --> 01:13:36,304
if I state anything incorrectly

1229
01:13:36,304 --> 01:13:37,784
because this is from memory

1230
01:13:37,784 --> 01:13:39,304
and I've already answered

1231
01:13:39,304 --> 01:13:40,524
hey memories are sketchy

1232
01:13:40,524 --> 01:13:43,404
but so I went back and listened to the podcast

1233
01:13:43,404 --> 01:13:45,144
that Jim talked about from the week before

1234
01:13:45,144 --> 01:13:49,724
but he says she was put in an asylum in Canada

1235
01:13:49,724 --> 01:13:52,324
I said at McGill University right

1236
01:13:52,324 --> 01:13:54,964
and he goes how did you know that

1237
01:13:54,964 --> 01:13:57,764
I go, because that's where they all did it.

1238
01:13:57,824 --> 01:13:59,004
It was a guy named Ewan Cameron.

1239
01:13:59,424 --> 01:14:03,104
He ran the MKUltra program at McGill University at this asylum.

1240
01:14:03,484 --> 01:14:07,964
And they damaged just a fuck ton of people in this asylum.

1241
01:14:08,944 --> 01:14:14,304
And then she starts talking about, and I've been on this thread.

1242
01:14:14,704 --> 01:14:16,824
I've been chasing this thread.

1243
01:14:17,544 --> 01:14:19,404
And all of a sudden, out it comes.

1244
01:14:19,524 --> 01:14:23,304
She says, Kamala Harris has all the traits of an MKUltra victim.

1245
01:14:23,304 --> 01:14:31,104
I go bingo bingo now what I thought so I was a playful person who could really

1246
01:14:31,104 --> 01:14:38,404
sort of dart in and out of fun stories might have been split personalities might

1247
01:14:38,404 --> 01:14:44,484
have been split personalities she and as Nixon said she can't access her

1248
01:14:44,484 --> 01:14:51,584
intellect now if you look at her progression through up to the vice

1249
01:14:51,584 --> 01:14:57,284
presidency she started out as a call girl which is sex worker that's one of the

1250
01:14:57,284 --> 01:15:04,844
jobs right and then who are you supposed to get in with prominent people and she

1251
01:15:04,844 --> 01:15:09,224
got in with prominent people and she may have a district attorney or something

1252
01:15:09,224 --> 01:15:13,784
right with very little record of actually prosecuting any cases and and

1253
01:15:13,784 --> 01:15:18,684
weird photo with her and what Montel Jordan yeah she was a she was a she was

1254
01:15:18,684 --> 01:15:23,164
arm candy. Right. But there's also a picture where she's flat out looks like a streetwalker.

1255
01:15:24,444 --> 01:15:31,084
I gave a talk a couple weeks ago on this stuff. It's so odd. So I'm in an investment conference,

1256
01:15:31,084 --> 01:15:36,924
they gave me a workshop. And I said I was going to talk about child trafficking and geopolitics.

1257
01:15:36,924 --> 01:15:41,244
And the guy didn't veto it. So the workshop is something that occurs at night,

1258
01:15:42,444 --> 01:15:47,404
you get some subset of the meeting, they decide to either go have dinner and not go to any of them,

1259
01:15:47,404 --> 01:15:48,684
or they go to your talk.

1260
01:15:49,344 --> 01:15:51,744
6.15 in the evening.

1261
01:15:52,744 --> 01:15:54,064
45-minute slot.

1262
01:15:55,524 --> 01:15:58,164
I said, how many people am I going to get at this workshop?

1263
01:15:58,284 --> 01:16:00,984
And they said, 20, maybe as high as 40.

1264
01:16:01,084 --> 01:16:03,664
I got about 50 from that title.

1265
01:16:05,264 --> 01:16:07,924
I'd spoken at this meeting, so they knew it could light up.

1266
01:16:08,024 --> 01:16:10,764
I could light the room up if I want.

1267
01:16:11,064 --> 01:16:15,524
And I spoke for three hours, and no one left the room.

1268
01:16:15,524 --> 01:16:25,924
And what was stunning is there were at least a half a dozen people in the room who are contributing in consequential ways to the story.

1269
01:16:26,184 --> 01:16:28,964
So this story, these stories are getting out.

1270
01:16:29,264 --> 01:16:30,104
And I was stunned.

1271
01:16:30,264 --> 01:16:33,224
One of them is a guy, I was on his PhD committee.

1272
01:16:33,564 --> 01:16:37,344
He works at a major corporation and he knew so much.

1273
01:16:38,724 --> 01:16:39,864
I go, how'd you get into this?

1274
01:16:39,904 --> 01:16:42,444
He said, oh, years ago, years ago.

1275
01:16:42,784 --> 01:16:44,124
This is strange stuff.

1276
01:16:45,524 --> 01:16:51,024
You know, Macron's wife, holy moly is that story weird.

1277
01:16:51,264 --> 01:16:57,044
That story gets so weird, not only did she date him when she was 39 and he was 14,

1278
01:16:58,004 --> 01:17:05,264
which really ought to make them not valid, you know, first lady and president material, right?

1279
01:17:05,344 --> 01:17:07,344
That should kind of knock him out of the race.

1280
01:17:07,544 --> 01:17:11,144
You would think that would be a scandal and maybe you'd say, yeah, I'm not voting for that guy.

1281
01:17:12,884 --> 01:17:15,224
But she's a dude, probably.

1282
01:17:15,524 --> 01:17:20,524
Candace Owens is being sued. It'll be fascinating because all they have to do is do a DNA test.

1283
01:17:20,524 --> 01:17:29,124
If they do the DNA test, it will either support or refute the third theory, and that is that she also is his biological father.

1284
01:17:30,404 --> 01:17:33,124
That one I hadn't heard. But you could fake a DNA test.

1285
01:17:34,184 --> 01:17:35,904
I mean, there's a lot. We talked about him.

1286
01:17:36,024 --> 01:17:41,884
Well, if it's a case in court, I'm not sure you can fake it.

1287
01:17:42,444 --> 01:17:44,244
If the court's a legit court.

1288
01:17:44,244 --> 01:17:46,244
Well, you can fake anything, right?

1289
01:17:46,244 --> 01:17:51,244
Well, like one of the Franklin scandal victims who ended up at the Supreme Court,

1290
01:17:51,244 --> 01:17:54,244
Franklin scandal being one of these satanic cult things,

1291
01:17:54,244 --> 01:17:57,244
pedophile networks that Nick Bryant wrote about.

1292
01:17:57,244 --> 01:17:59,244
She ended up at the Supreme Court.

1293
01:17:59,244 --> 01:18:03,244
They put a judge who was not legally able to adjudicate a Supreme Court case,

1294
01:18:03,244 --> 01:18:07,244
and the prosecutor and the judge, they just totally fucked up the whole thing,

1295
01:18:07,244 --> 01:18:12,244
and she ended up losing, but it was rigged from head to toe, from head to toe.

1296
01:18:12,244 --> 01:18:17,424
Tell me those two, the prosecutor and the judge, shouldn't be thrown in prison for the rest of their lives, throw away the key.

1297
01:18:17,704 --> 01:18:20,764
They've corrupted a system that just, it's treason.

1298
01:18:21,004 --> 01:18:21,624
It's treason.

1299
01:18:22,064 --> 01:18:23,564
People get hung for treason.

1300
01:18:23,984 --> 01:18:24,364
Hang them.

1301
01:18:25,424 --> 01:18:25,864
Hang them.

1302
01:18:27,064 --> 01:18:32,944
Convict them in a court of law to the highest standards of our judicial system, and if found guilty, hang them.

1303
01:18:33,264 --> 01:18:37,644
Did you ever see the movie Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts?

1304
01:18:37,824 --> 01:18:38,404
Oh, yeah.

1305
01:18:38,484 --> 01:18:40,004
My wife used to call me Jerry.

1306
01:18:40,004 --> 01:18:44,384
I mean, but like they get into, you know, the fracturing the mind and not having the memories.

1307
01:18:45,084 --> 01:18:50,184
Wait, is that the one with where he's a nutty?

1308
01:18:50,744 --> 01:18:52,084
He's a psychotic guy.

1309
01:18:52,684 --> 01:18:53,564
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1310
01:18:53,584 --> 01:18:56,244
And he's designed to kill the judge of the daughter that he loves.

1311
01:18:56,364 --> 01:18:59,244
But, you know, he's fighting, killing the judge because he loves the daughter.

1312
01:18:59,644 --> 01:19:00,664
Oh, that's a different one.

1313
01:19:00,724 --> 01:19:03,184
I think I've seen it, but I was thinking of the one where he.

1314
01:19:05,364 --> 01:19:07,704
With who's the other famous actor?

1315
01:19:07,704 --> 01:19:09,564
Well, this one's Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts.

1316
01:19:09,564 --> 01:19:13,484
It's pretty spot on from MKUltra, I think, or what I would think MKUltra is like.

1317
01:19:13,684 --> 01:19:17,224
I think Hollywood's job is to fictionalize reality.

1318
01:19:17,644 --> 01:19:20,704
So Hollywood, I'm watching a lot of pop culture now through my children.

1319
01:19:21,344 --> 01:19:26,364
And the amount of, because you don't have a lot of time to park myself in front of the TV and watch what I want to watch.

1320
01:19:27,004 --> 01:19:34,084
So you have, you know, my daughter likes, her favorite song now is from K-pop Demon Hunters, right?

1321
01:19:34,564 --> 01:19:36,744
Oh, Hollywood has a terrible problem.

1322
01:19:36,744 --> 01:19:39,884
Disney as a corporation has a terrible problem.

1323
01:19:39,884 --> 01:19:44,404
On the other side, the ice wall, tall people.

1324
01:19:44,844 --> 01:19:45,964
Boot up, praise Petey.

1325
01:19:46,144 --> 01:19:47,384
Boot up, praise Petey.

1326
01:19:47,604 --> 01:19:49,164
You know, when you listen to this.

1327
01:19:49,364 --> 01:19:54,064
Praise Petey is a cartoon, a Disney cartoon in which the girl, it's a cartoon,

1328
01:19:54,604 --> 01:19:56,624
inherits a satanic cult from her grandfather.

1329
01:19:57,124 --> 01:19:57,604
What?

1330
01:19:59,604 --> 01:20:01,484
And if you boot it up, you can find it.

1331
01:20:01,704 --> 01:20:03,124
You can see pictures of it.

1332
01:20:03,184 --> 01:20:05,244
If you're listening to this podcast, pause it.

1333
01:20:05,244 --> 01:20:07,584
boot up, search Praise Petey.

1334
01:20:07,584 --> 01:20:10,244
Right, and you see it in the Oscars and in the Olympics.

1335
01:20:10,244 --> 01:20:12,824
Monsters Incorporated, you see it everywhere.

1336
01:20:12,824 --> 01:20:14,244
The Olympics.

1337
01:20:14,244 --> 01:20:16,244
The Olympics.

1338
01:20:16,244 --> 01:20:19,244
The 2012 Olympics in London.

1339
01:20:19,244 --> 01:20:21,244
Oh my God.

1340
01:20:22,244 --> 01:20:24,244
Satanic cult.

1341
01:20:24,244 --> 01:20:25,244
I don't know if you heard this one.

1342
01:20:25,244 --> 01:20:26,744
I mean, some people think the Statue of Liberty

1343
01:20:26,744 --> 01:20:29,244
is really a big statue of Lucifer.

1344
01:20:29,244 --> 01:20:30,244
You brought up the saneness before.

1345
01:20:30,244 --> 01:20:31,244
I've not heard that one.

1346
01:20:31,244 --> 01:20:32,244
I've not heard that one.

1347
01:20:32,244 --> 01:20:33,244
You can go down this one.

1348
01:20:33,244 --> 01:20:35,684
I don't know what to do with the Mason story.

1349
01:20:35,684 --> 01:20:36,604
I'm bringing it all here, David.

1350
01:20:36,624 --> 01:20:38,584
I got another one for you that I don't think you've heard.

1351
01:20:38,704 --> 01:20:39,324
I'm talking about pizza.

1352
01:20:40,244 --> 01:20:42,344
And I'm going to go where I don't think you'd think I'd go.

1353
01:20:43,384 --> 01:20:46,644
As the story goes, you've heard of Bitcoin Pizza Day, I'm sure.

1354
01:20:46,884 --> 01:20:47,144
No.

1355
01:20:47,404 --> 01:20:48,684
You never heard of Bitcoin Pizza Day?

1356
01:20:49,624 --> 01:20:52,984
So Bitcoin Pizza Day has tremendous positive lore.

1357
01:20:53,804 --> 01:20:53,924
Right.

1358
01:20:53,984 --> 01:20:59,984
It's the day that this guy, Laszlo, he offered, he did the first economic or sort of monetary

1359
01:20:59,984 --> 01:21:01,084
transfer for Bitcoin.

1360
01:21:01,084 --> 01:21:03,924
He offered 10,000 Bitcoins.

1361
01:21:04,004 --> 01:21:08,444
This was like in 2010 for someone who would bring him a Papa John's pizza.

1362
01:21:08,764 --> 01:21:10,944
Well, that was the wasn't that the first transaction?

1363
01:21:11,164 --> 01:21:12,264
That was the first transaction.

1364
01:21:12,264 --> 01:21:15,484
So then, you know, you always see on the news Bitcoin Pizza Day.

1365
01:21:15,644 --> 01:21:18,444
He traded, you know, what would be a billion dollars.

1366
01:21:18,444 --> 01:21:20,184
Fifty billion. Fifty billion or something.

1367
01:21:20,384 --> 01:21:22,404
Fifty billion or a hundred billion or whatever it was.

1368
01:21:22,444 --> 01:21:26,164
Right. But, you know, a lot of people don't know that Laszlo went on to do this many times that year.

1369
01:21:26,944 --> 01:21:29,404
But let me let me go down the rabbit hole a little bit here.

1370
01:21:29,404 --> 01:21:31,964
This gets a little dark.

1371
01:21:31,964 --> 01:21:36,124
As the story goes, someone fulfilled Laszlo's order and took the 10,000 Bitcoins for two

1372
01:21:36,124 --> 01:21:40,084
pizzas, becoming the first transaction for Bitcoin with a major vendor.

1373
01:21:40,084 --> 01:21:45,704
But then Laszlo dressed one of his children in a green shirt that said, I love pizza,

1374
01:21:45,704 --> 01:21:50,664
and the other in a white shirt that read, I love Bitcoin, with both pizzas displayed

1375
01:21:50,664 --> 01:21:53,144
along with the code to verify the transaction.

1376
01:21:53,144 --> 01:21:57,304
If you've read the entirety of Laszlo's original post from 2010 and the creepy way he talks

1377
01:21:57,304 --> 01:22:02,144
about and describes pizza then you also know similar to sounds to the coded language founded

1378
01:22:02,144 --> 01:22:07,304
in hillary clinton and podest emails which were also from 2010 additionally 2010 2011 was the

1379
01:22:07,304 --> 01:22:12,124
beginning of wienergate featuring anthony wiener's laptop and the first mention ever of pizzagate by

1380
01:22:12,124 --> 01:22:17,624
no other than donald trump and then so here's a picture i don't know if you could see sort of

1381
01:22:17,624 --> 01:22:22,704
the family okay yeah i see it and then i'll read you the original and this was probably like on

1382
01:22:22,704 --> 01:22:28,864
some forum. This is the original. I'll pay 10,000 bitcoins for a couple of pizzas,

1383
01:22:29,444 --> 01:22:34,504
like maybe two large ones. So I have some leftover for the next day. I like having leftover pizza to

1384
01:22:34,504 --> 01:22:38,724
nibble on later. You can make the pizza yourself and bring it to my house or order it for me

1385
01:22:38,724 --> 01:22:43,744
from a delivery place. But what I'm aiming for is getting food delivered in exchange for bitcoins

1386
01:22:43,744 --> 01:22:48,764
where I don't have to order or prepare it myself. Kind of like ordering a breakfast platter

1387
01:22:48,764 --> 01:22:50,204
at a hotel or something.

1388
01:22:50,884 --> 01:22:53,024
They just bring you something to eat and you're happy.

1389
01:22:53,724 --> 01:22:56,324
I like things like onions, peppers, sausage, mushrooms,

1390
01:22:56,484 --> 01:22:57,704
tomatoes, pepperoni, et cetera.

1391
01:22:58,444 --> 01:23:00,984
Just standard stuff, no weird fish topping

1392
01:23:00,984 --> 01:23:01,884
or anything like that.

1393
01:23:01,964 --> 01:23:03,624
I also like regular cheese pizzas,

1394
01:23:03,624 --> 01:23:06,204
which may be cheaper to prepare or otherwise acquire.

1395
01:23:06,904 --> 01:23:08,384
If you're interested, please let me know

1396
01:23:08,384 --> 01:23:10,084
and we could talk, we could work out a deal.

1397
01:23:11,344 --> 01:23:12,544
I just thought that was kind of interesting.

1398
01:23:12,944 --> 01:23:26,632
Yeah there no smoking gun there No but you know there There was some weird stuff a little bit and then it just lacing in pizza with the history of Bitcoin The satanic crowd I believe so you have to

1399
01:23:26,732 --> 01:23:32,012
to understand the satanic crowd, you have to understand it as a religion. So once you accept

1400
01:23:32,012 --> 01:23:36,292
the idea that it's a religion, then you start thinking back at Aztec sacrifices and stuff,

1401
01:23:36,352 --> 01:23:42,412
you realize that as a religion, it can take you off some serious rails, right? And I think within

1402
01:23:42,412 --> 01:23:50,592
the satanic world, there is this sort of ethos that says you have to show the world,

1403
01:23:51,792 --> 01:23:58,132
you have to publicly display your commitment. And it's, I don't even want to do it because I don't

1404
01:23:58,132 --> 01:24:01,832
want someone to grab a still. I was on with a minister we talked about. I said, what's this

1405
01:24:01,832 --> 01:24:08,092
symbol? He says, I'm not doing it. And LeBron has done it seriously.

1406
01:24:08,092 --> 01:24:11,532
He does the whole enchilada.

1407
01:24:12,012 --> 01:24:12,692
With the beginning.

1408
01:24:13,512 --> 01:24:17,732
When I finally saw that after years being broken down and slowed down, I was like, whoa, that's interesting.

1409
01:24:18,252 --> 01:24:19,212
That's creepy weird.

1410
01:24:19,652 --> 01:24:24,712
And then there's the picture of LeBron in a dress that someone sent through an AI filter and said, this is not fake.

1411
01:24:25,052 --> 01:24:25,212
Right?

1412
01:24:25,412 --> 01:24:26,192
Wait, what time was that?

1413
01:24:26,732 --> 01:24:30,612
Someone sent it to an AI checker and it said, this is not fake.

1414
01:24:30,832 --> 01:24:31,512
No, it's like, yeah.

1415
01:24:31,792 --> 01:24:35,552
So LeBron in a dress is a pretty strange image.

1416
01:24:35,552 --> 01:24:44,652
I was going to check his arms against the pictures of him and ask, are those arms of LeBron's?

1417
01:24:44,752 --> 01:24:46,372
Because he's a pretty big guy.

1418
01:24:46,552 --> 01:24:49,552
And I thought the arms might look a little underdeveloped.

1419
01:24:50,252 --> 01:24:51,272
And so I was going to check that.

1420
01:24:51,392 --> 01:24:53,072
But I'm not going to write about this shit.

1421
01:24:53,212 --> 01:24:54,052
I thought I was going to.

1422
01:24:54,112 --> 01:24:55,152
I'm not going to write about it.

1423
01:24:56,432 --> 01:24:57,832
I've decided to just like.

1424
01:24:58,172 --> 01:25:03,612
It seems like the things that we, like climate change, we've, I think, sort of debunked that.

1425
01:25:03,612 --> 01:25:05,032
That story just changed, by the way.

1426
01:25:05,032 --> 01:25:06,032
That sort of just changed.

1427
01:25:06,032 --> 01:25:07,032
No, no, no.

1428
01:25:07,032 --> 01:25:09,032
Just changed a week ago.

1429
01:25:09,032 --> 01:25:11,032
Do you mean with like Bill Gates kind of saying it's not as bad?

1430
01:25:11,032 --> 01:25:12,032
Yeah.

1431
01:25:12,032 --> 01:25:13,032
Right.

1432
01:25:13,032 --> 01:25:15,032
So I'm saying that's been debunked or sort of like the air has been like.

1433
01:25:15,032 --> 01:25:18,032
Well, that got debunked long before Bill said it, but Bill saying it.

1434
01:25:18,032 --> 01:25:20,032
If you think he's just muttering.

1435
01:25:20,032 --> 01:25:21,032
Right, right.

1436
01:25:21,032 --> 01:25:24,332
It's sort of like it's now like it's getting, it's crossed the threshold where you can really

1437
01:25:24,332 --> 01:25:28,032
make a really great argument and people aren't going to, you can get some signal.

1438
01:25:28,032 --> 01:25:31,032
But do you know why Bill said that?

1439
01:25:31,032 --> 01:25:32,032
You know why Bill said that?

1440
01:25:32,032 --> 01:25:33,032
No.

1441
01:25:33,032 --> 01:25:34,032
Tell me.

1442
01:25:34,032 --> 01:25:35,032
in the way of AI.

1443
01:25:35,032 --> 01:25:38,592
Right, right, because they want to just use massive amounts of energy to power all the

1444
01:25:38,592 --> 01:25:39,592
data.

1445
01:25:39,592 --> 01:25:40,592
Right.

1446
01:25:40,592 --> 01:25:41,592
And all of a sudden they go, oh, fuck, we've got to get rid of the climate change.

1447
01:25:41,592 --> 01:25:43,592
It served its purpose.

1448
01:25:43,592 --> 01:25:46,092
And it goes from like trillions, trillions, right.

1449
01:25:46,092 --> 01:25:51,132
It goes from brutal oppression to sort of like normalized to, you know, now now it's

1450
01:25:51,132 --> 01:25:55,092
baked in enough that they get the vaccine was fucked up.

1451
01:25:55,092 --> 01:25:57,092
He admitted the COVID story was fucked up.

1452
01:25:57,092 --> 01:25:58,092
Right.

1453
01:25:58,092 --> 01:26:04,012
And then the geoengineering with the geo weather engineering, you got the prime document.

1454
01:26:04,012 --> 01:26:05,272
on Prime documentary now.

1455
01:26:05,712 --> 01:26:08,652
So it seems like the most interesting things

1456
01:26:08,652 --> 01:26:09,952
that were worth debating,

1457
01:26:10,712 --> 01:26:12,732
we've kind of crossed the chasm a bit.

1458
01:26:12,932 --> 01:26:14,652
And then all the new stuff,

1459
01:26:14,792 --> 01:26:17,092
there's just too much noise.

1460
01:26:17,892 --> 01:26:20,012
And nothing is, it's just so much

1461
01:26:20,012 --> 01:26:21,552
that nothing sticks anymore.

1462
01:26:21,932 --> 01:26:24,352
It's like, we go from like, right now,

1463
01:26:24,412 --> 01:26:26,452
there's nothing to be discussed

1464
01:26:26,452 --> 01:26:28,552
until another thing like Charlie Kirk.

1465
01:26:29,072 --> 01:26:30,792
It's almost like the news has to have

1466
01:26:30,792 --> 01:26:32,732
that much adrenaline and that much virality

1467
01:26:32,732 --> 01:26:34,752
to be a perfect discussion.

1468
01:26:34,752 --> 01:26:35,472
Well, did you watch,

1469
01:26:35,752 --> 01:26:37,332
just speaking of Charlie Kirk for a second,

1470
01:26:37,432 --> 01:26:39,032
did you watch the Mike McCoy video?

1471
01:26:39,272 --> 01:26:39,912
No, I didn't.

1472
01:26:40,232 --> 01:26:42,152
Okay, so you got to search Mike McCoy.

1473
01:26:43,052 --> 01:26:44,812
So Charlie Kirk had a right-hand man,

1474
01:26:45,152 --> 01:26:47,892
and there's videos of him that day with Mike McCoy,

1475
01:26:47,972 --> 01:26:48,912
and they're yucking it up,

1476
01:26:48,932 --> 01:26:50,112
and they're going to this thing,

1477
01:26:50,112 --> 01:26:51,712
and they got their iPhones running,

1478
01:26:51,792 --> 01:26:52,432
stuff like that.

1479
01:26:53,672 --> 01:26:57,312
Mike McCoy is standing probably 15 feet

1480
01:26:57,312 --> 01:27:00,712
by our perspective to the right of Charlie.

1481
01:27:00,872 --> 01:27:01,652
There's a curtain.

1482
01:27:01,652 --> 01:27:07,892
he's far enough back that you can't, you don't really know for sure if he can see Charlie,

1483
01:27:08,432 --> 01:27:16,432
but he's way back. And Candace showed this. Charlie gets shot. Mike McCoy takes his phone

1484
01:27:16,432 --> 01:27:23,232
and puts it to his ear in what was measured to be 834 microseconds, meaning he didn't dial anything

1485
01:27:23,232 --> 01:27:34,152
too fast. He went right to here. A little bit of a flinch. And he immediately, immediately turns

1486
01:27:34,152 --> 01:27:41,852
and walks behind the screen out of sight. Immediately. To the point that he's gone

1487
01:27:41,852 --> 01:27:47,952
when Charlie hits the floor. Now, this is his chief of staff. He didn't know what happened

1488
01:27:47,952 --> 01:27:53,172
based on what he could see. There's no chance he knew what. So search Mike McCoy video. You'll see

1489
01:27:53,172 --> 01:27:55,592
He could not have known what just happened.

1490
01:27:55,832 --> 01:27:59,012
And then because of all the different people with all the different videos,

1491
01:27:59,352 --> 01:28:01,132
you can watch Mike McCoy walking.

1492
01:28:01,252 --> 01:28:04,152
And he's walking in the most calm walk.

1493
01:28:04,212 --> 01:28:04,912
He's not running.

1494
01:28:05,252 --> 01:28:06,512
He's not acting panicky.

1495
01:28:06,952 --> 01:28:08,412
He walks and walks and walks.

1496
01:28:08,512 --> 01:28:13,092
He ends up about 100 yards past the van that they put Charlie into.

1497
01:28:13,292 --> 01:28:16,912
His father, Rob McCoy, is a minister.

1498
01:28:17,252 --> 01:28:19,472
You get the worst vibes from Rob McCoy.

1499
01:28:19,692 --> 01:28:22,012
You get real bad vibes from Rob McCoy.

1500
01:28:22,012 --> 01:28:27,472
And Rob McCoy starts defending Mikey McCoy real fast, saying, oh, I was picking on Mikey.

1501
01:28:27,652 --> 01:28:28,532
You know, he's a hero.

1502
01:28:28,992 --> 01:28:31,232
He was a real leader that day, a real trooper.

1503
01:28:31,452 --> 01:28:32,632
He had blood all over him.

1504
01:28:32,732 --> 01:28:33,692
We go, no, he didn't.

1505
01:28:33,852 --> 01:28:34,712
No chance.

1506
01:28:34,872 --> 01:28:36,932
They said right away he called Erica Kirk.

1507
01:28:37,092 --> 01:28:38,092
No, he didn't.

1508
01:28:38,292 --> 01:28:39,472
So what's going on there?

1509
01:28:39,552 --> 01:28:44,832
Well, I think Mike McCoy is the son of the serious player, Rob.

1510
01:28:44,832 --> 01:28:48,772
Mikey is in some position at TPUSA

1511
01:28:48,772 --> 01:28:52,072
in which he's just like a 22-year-old kid.

1512
01:28:53,332 --> 01:28:57,632
So he's not an important player in what was $150 million a year business

1513
01:28:57,632 --> 01:28:58,312
or something, right?

1514
01:28:59,992 --> 01:29:01,832
Mikey's going to have to disappear, I think,

1515
01:29:01,892 --> 01:29:04,152
because I think that video is just not going to go away.

1516
01:29:04,352 --> 01:29:07,872
Nothing about the Kirk assassination makes sense.

1517
01:29:07,972 --> 01:29:08,772
I think he's dead.

1518
01:29:08,872 --> 01:29:11,292
I disagree with the he's not dead theory.

1519
01:29:11,292 --> 01:29:16,252
but everything else falls apart completely.

1520
01:29:16,252 --> 01:29:18,612
The text messaging, you read all about that, right?

1521
01:29:18,612 --> 01:29:22,072
The text messages, they weren't dated.

1522
01:29:22,872 --> 01:29:26,352
They weren't that of a 22-year-old or whatever-year-old guy,

1523
01:29:26,512 --> 01:29:28,052
you know, the shooter.

1524
01:29:28,432 --> 01:29:31,612
He referred to the cop car as a squad car.

1525
01:29:31,772 --> 01:29:33,872
Was he watching Adam-12 reruns or something?

1526
01:29:34,192 --> 01:29:37,632
No one calls it a squad car, right?

1527
01:29:37,772 --> 01:29:40,092
There's no LOLs, there's no emojis,

1528
01:29:40,092 --> 01:29:44,332
there's no anything and he's talking to his love muffin who by the way is now missing

1529
01:29:45,612 --> 01:29:53,292
the love muffins missing the transgender love muffin right there's guys who rush to charlie's help

1530
01:29:55,372 --> 01:30:02,412
and you do a stop on them and they have a smirk on their face it's called duper smirk

1531
01:30:03,692 --> 01:30:08,652
when you dupe someone you can't help with smirk it's a tell yeah they just seem like a lot of that

1532
01:30:08,652 --> 01:30:15,832
Right. So there's a horrible story here that I don't know who's guilty of what, but it's

1533
01:30:15,832 --> 01:30:21,592
not what we were told. And they're gonna, and I think the father of the kid who supposedly

1534
01:30:21,592 --> 01:30:28,432
shot Charlie, who turned him in, I think the father, the kid went home, and said, what

1535
01:30:28,432 --> 01:30:34,152
the fuck happened? And the kid said, I didn't do anything. And the father realized that the

1536
01:30:34,152 --> 01:30:40,032
safest place for him is inside the police station. That if he's out on the

1537
01:30:40,032 --> 01:30:43,932
street, someone will say, oh yeah, he pulled a gun on us, we shot him and he's

1538
01:30:43,932 --> 01:30:48,912
dead now. The father was smart enough. The father was a cop, I think. Something like

1539
01:30:48,912 --> 01:30:55,392
that. The father knew he had to get him into custody ASAP because he died.

1540
01:30:55,392 --> 01:30:59,892
I'll throw another, I don't think Stevie Wonder, I mean they say he's legally

1541
01:30:59,892 --> 01:31:03,252
blind. I mean I think there's something, I don't think, and then Stephen Hawking I

1542
01:31:03,252 --> 01:31:03,992
I don't even think he's real.

1543
01:31:04,032 --> 01:31:05,332
I want to ask you if you're a scientist.

1544
01:31:05,692 --> 01:31:06,432
I have no idea.

1545
01:31:07,172 --> 01:31:08,872
He looked pretty gnarly.

1546
01:31:08,872 --> 01:31:11,472
He brought up the Satanist stuff and the occultist stuff.

1547
01:31:11,552 --> 01:31:13,912
Well, he would just speak gibberish, and then his translator would be like,

1548
01:31:14,112 --> 01:31:15,112
oh, he means this.

1549
01:31:15,232 --> 01:31:15,932
And he'd be like, no, Jesus.

1550
01:31:16,012 --> 01:31:20,572
Oh, you mean the fact that he was able to talk to the world while fucked up?

1551
01:31:20,832 --> 01:31:21,952
Well, yeah.

1552
01:31:22,052 --> 01:31:25,572
I mean, if you can't express yourself, generally speaking, it's like, I don't know.

1553
01:31:25,632 --> 01:31:28,392
It's just a little, you revisit it, and it just seems a little odd.

1554
01:31:29,132 --> 01:31:30,892
But you mentioned this of the Satanist stuff.

1555
01:31:30,892 --> 01:31:36,892
Do you think there's a possibility there's like shapeshifters or people who sort of?

1556
01:31:37,112 --> 01:31:38,752
I don't believe they're shapeshifters.

1557
01:31:38,772 --> 01:31:39,312
Right, right.

1558
01:31:39,732 --> 01:31:41,652
I believe there's people who think they're shapeshifters.

1559
01:31:41,812 --> 01:31:45,272
So there's a lot of people who claim to see shapeshifters.

1560
01:31:45,272 --> 01:31:50,272
I was on the phone with a famous podcaster who shall remain nameless.

1561
01:31:50,852 --> 01:31:53,832
He was one of the earliest financial podcasters.

1562
01:31:54,732 --> 01:31:58,352
Very early, probably back in 07 or something.

1563
01:31:58,692 --> 01:31:59,952
And we talked on the phone.

1564
01:31:59,952 --> 01:32:02,932
and as so often happens

1565
01:32:02,932 --> 01:32:04,232
with a long conversation,

1566
01:32:04,412 --> 01:32:05,172
the filters drop

1567
01:32:05,172 --> 01:32:05,912
and next thing you know,

1568
01:32:05,992 --> 01:32:06,772
he's talking about

1569
01:32:06,772 --> 01:32:07,892
sitting across the table

1570
01:32:07,892 --> 01:32:08,792
from some guy

1571
01:32:08,792 --> 01:32:11,172
with bright red almond eyes

1572
01:32:11,172 --> 01:32:12,872
and he's the epitome of evil

1573
01:32:12,872 --> 01:32:13,892
and he starts talking about

1574
01:32:13,892 --> 01:32:15,912
nine foot giants roaming the planet

1575
01:32:15,912 --> 01:32:17,732
and I'm playing along

1576
01:32:17,732 --> 01:32:18,412
but I'm thinking

1577
01:32:18,412 --> 01:32:20,092
this guy's out in his fucking mind.

1578
01:32:20,252 --> 01:32:20,452
Now,

1579
01:32:21,072 --> 01:32:23,192
that would be perfect,

1580
01:32:23,872 --> 01:32:25,552
perfectly consistent

1581
01:32:25,552 --> 01:32:26,732
with a person

1582
01:32:26,732 --> 01:32:28,052
who has been brainwashed,

1583
01:32:28,672 --> 01:32:29,912
who's been through the routine.

1584
01:32:29,952 --> 01:32:32,212
and there's a lot of guys who say

1585
01:32:32,212 --> 01:32:34,112
I know you're not going to believe me but I've seen

1586
01:32:34,112 --> 01:32:36,492
satanic people with bright red eyes

1587
01:32:36,492 --> 01:32:37,972
and I think

1588
01:32:37,972 --> 01:32:40,552
I do not believe there are people

1589
01:32:40,552 --> 01:32:42,572
with bright red eyes, I do not believe there are

1590
01:32:42,572 --> 01:32:43,832
9 foot shapeshifters

1591
01:32:43,832 --> 01:32:46,552
I believe there are people who have been

1592
01:32:46,552 --> 01:32:48,392
completely using

1593
01:32:48,392 --> 01:32:50,892
horrific methods convinced that there are

1594
01:32:50,892 --> 01:32:52,652
I don't believe there's aliens from

1595
01:32:52,652 --> 01:32:54,652
outer space, I don't believe we have alien

1596
01:32:54,652 --> 01:32:56,852
technology, I have friends

1597
01:32:56,852 --> 01:32:58,532
who are smart who think there is

1598
01:32:58,532 --> 01:33:05,592
But my understanding of the vast expanse of space is they're not going to get here, period.

1599
01:33:06,092 --> 01:33:12,752
And if they're technologically capable of getting here, they couldn't give a shit about bipedal monkeys who are retards.

1600
01:33:13,832 --> 01:33:13,972
Right?

1601
01:33:14,572 --> 01:33:15,412
They couldn't give a...

1602
01:33:15,412 --> 01:33:16,312
We're irrelevant.

1603
01:33:16,752 --> 01:33:20,572
We are the monkeys at the obelisk in the movie 2001 Space Oddity.

1604
01:33:20,572 --> 01:33:25,492
One theory I've heard is when we blew up nuclear bombs and split an atom, they were like, what the fuck are you guys doing?

1605
01:33:25,812 --> 01:33:27,752
That's 2001 A Space Oddity.

1606
01:33:27,752 --> 01:33:28,312
Right.

1607
01:33:28,532 --> 01:33:30,452
That's exactly the plot of that.

1608
01:33:30,712 --> 01:33:33,932
I think Hollywood's in charge of fictionalizing reality.

1609
01:33:34,052 --> 01:33:34,892
So there's something real.

1610
01:33:35,212 --> 01:33:42,212
And you go, okay, let's neutralize it by making a movie that then people anchor on as fiction.

1611
01:33:42,772 --> 01:33:46,992
So, Born Identity, pure MKUltra, head-to-toe MKUltra.

1612
01:33:48,012 --> 01:33:49,792
Born Identity is MKUltra.

1613
01:33:50,572 --> 01:33:53,052
And then you got Eyes Wide Shut, right?

1614
01:33:53,232 --> 01:33:54,252
Satanic cults.

1615
01:33:54,252 --> 01:33:58,772
It was filmed in a castle in Europe where the Rothschilds were supposedly doing this shit.

1616
01:33:59,572 --> 01:34:01,032
What are the odds of that, right?

1617
01:34:01,372 --> 01:34:03,452
The lead guy was Tom...

1618
01:34:03,452 --> 01:34:07,592
People think Kubrick did the, you know, he filmed the space land, you know, the moon land.

1619
01:34:07,772 --> 01:34:10,132
Well, Kubrick, after Eyes Wide Shut, died.

1620
01:34:10,612 --> 01:34:15,972
Right, well, during the post-production, and then Spielberg finishes it, and there's like a lot missing, probably.

1621
01:34:16,532 --> 01:34:18,052
33 minutes, they say.

1622
01:34:18,052 --> 01:34:20,012
They say, well, yeah, notice the 33.

1623
01:34:20,652 --> 01:34:22,092
I did notice the 33.

1624
01:34:22,092 --> 01:34:25,612
Patel said it took to find the killer of Charlie Kirk.

1625
01:34:26,412 --> 01:34:27,212
What did he say?

1626
01:34:27,312 --> 01:34:28,052
Say that again?

1627
01:34:28,272 --> 01:34:29,012
What did Patel say?

1628
01:34:29,232 --> 01:34:36,652
In the first press conference with Cash, he goes, you know, we found the killer in less than 36 hours.

1629
01:34:36,892 --> 01:34:37,872
So, you know, a day and a half.

1630
01:34:38,812 --> 01:34:39,512
That's my words.

1631
01:34:39,572 --> 01:34:41,432
He goes, we found the killer in less than 36 hours.

1632
01:34:42,172 --> 01:34:43,552
33 to be precise.

1633
01:34:43,972 --> 01:34:47,152
Oh, that's so goddamn funny.

1634
01:34:47,552 --> 01:34:49,712
And then he used the word Valhalla.

1635
01:34:49,712 --> 01:34:51,492
Then he used the word Valhalla.

1636
01:34:51,492 --> 01:34:57,272
which is strange and is well so people say well that's just that's a warrior and i go but it also

1637
01:34:57,272 --> 01:35:02,192
is a way of not referring to heaven right but it's also witness protection maybe well but it's a way

1638
01:35:02,192 --> 01:35:09,152
of not referring to heaven yeah i agree and if you could argue maybe that's because his religion he

1639
01:35:09,152 --> 01:35:13,072
doesn't want to refer to heaven of utah just happens to look a lot like charlie kirk in a

1640
01:35:13,072 --> 01:35:18,372
like just go back to that video with cash talking about the watch it it's phenomenal it's like a lot

1641
01:35:18,372 --> 01:35:23,092
people think it is charlie kirk you know the governor happens to look a lot like a ball charlie

1642
01:35:23,092 --> 01:35:28,492
kirk i think there's a ton of shit designed to make us look like complete idiots so i think we

1643
01:35:28,492 --> 01:35:33,712
have to be careful i think we have to be careful i totally agree um it's kind of fun to play around

1644
01:35:33,712 --> 01:35:40,932
with um it is oh yeah you know but there is to that extent you are seeing things though it's like

1645
01:35:40,932 --> 01:35:48,352
that you could then say and will make you sound and appear stupid but you you do we do see the

1646
01:35:48,352 --> 01:35:51,412
these anomalies and they look like glitches in AI.

1647
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:54,752
How many world leaders look like they're married to dudes?

1648
01:35:54,752 --> 01:35:57,512
Like, so there were videos going around

1649
01:35:57,512 --> 01:35:58,872
of the Charlie Kirk thing that made like,

1650
01:35:58,872 --> 01:36:00,472
look like AI glitches in the video.

1651
01:36:00,472 --> 01:36:04,172
And I'm convinced that they, whoever pushed out the AI,

1652
01:36:04,172 --> 01:36:05,892
that they have better AI than they distribute

1653
01:36:05,892 --> 01:36:07,792
to the level we see and they don't have-

1654
01:36:07,792 --> 01:36:10,232
Oh, that's something I've been obsessing over.

1655
01:36:10,232 --> 01:36:12,592
We think we're seeing top of the AI.

1656
01:36:12,592 --> 01:36:13,432
No, we're 10 years behind.

1657
01:36:13,432 --> 01:36:15,172
I'm going, holy shit.

1658
01:36:15,172 --> 01:36:17,492
So I read about directed energy weapons

1659
01:36:17,492 --> 01:36:21,472
wrote about it last year or the year before, I can't remember which.

1660
01:36:21,472 --> 01:36:28,212
And I was reading RAND reports from 40 years ago, and the technology was spectacular.

1661
01:36:28,212 --> 01:36:33,892
The shit I was reading, and there's videos of Lyndon Johnson saying, you know, if we

1662
01:36:33,892 --> 01:36:39,392
control space, we control the world and shit like that.

1663
01:36:39,392 --> 01:36:42,172
And they had this cool tech to zap people from space.

1664
01:36:42,172 --> 01:36:44,012
It was real Star Wars stuff.

1665
01:36:44,012 --> 01:36:47,232
And you got to ask, what do we have 40 years later behind the paywall?

1666
01:36:48,252 --> 01:36:50,432
And the answer is it must be spectacular.

1667
01:36:51,072 --> 01:36:53,132
Do you think whoever controls the Internet controls the world?

1668
01:36:53,512 --> 01:36:53,792
Yes.

1669
01:36:54,412 --> 01:37:00,912
And in fact, I used to say for many years I've said the Internet is democracy's greatest hope and worst enemy.

1670
01:37:01,332 --> 01:37:03,132
I don't see the hope part anymore.

1671
01:37:03,712 --> 01:37:04,392
I don't either.

1672
01:37:04,392 --> 01:37:06,312
No, no, I've given up on the hope.

1673
01:37:06,572 --> 01:37:19,000
I think whoever controls the Internet will be an authoritarian And do you think the internet is already controlled oh totally right so it so someone like but it controlled it kind of

1674
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:24,880
it could be a crowdsource control meaning there's all these different groups who are controlling

1675
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:31,420
the narrative so in some sense it's like a self-assembled oligarchy which is what an NSA

1676
01:37:31,420 --> 01:37:37,240
guy told me so one day I thought of this guy by zoom I didn't know who he was he started talking

1677
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:43,160
Hegelian philosophy and I thought he got off the rails and someone in the Zoom

1678
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:48,700
group said, Steven, are you a professor of philosophy? Because we didn't all know

1679
01:37:48,700 --> 01:37:54,160
each other. He said, no, I trained as a lawyer but I was an NSA analyst for X

1680
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:59,920
years. And I go, oh this plot just thickens spectacularly, right? So then at one

1681
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:03,520
point we're chatting about something, it was during the COVID, the whole group is

1682
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,000
Doctors for COVID Ethics was the Zoom group.

1683
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,160
And someone, at one point I said to Stephen,

1684
01:38:10,260 --> 01:38:11,700
I said, we keep saying they, Stephen.

1685
01:38:11,820 --> 01:38:12,500
Who's the they?

1686
01:38:13,540 --> 01:38:15,700
And Stephen says, this is profound, actually.

1687
01:38:15,700 --> 01:38:18,320
He says, I don't like to name names

1688
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:19,600
because then you'll stop thinking.

1689
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,820
So if I say Bill Gates, then you'll say,

1690
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,580
okay, now have the answer to what's for dinner

1691
01:38:25,580 --> 01:38:27,100
and you'll stop thinking.

1692
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,680
I expanded that bit of advice and said,

1693
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,680
never draw any conclusion.

1694
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,280
that gets you to stop thinking.

1695
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:38,180
Don't shut down the thinking.

1696
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,040
Which means when someone says, oh, it's a uniparty,

1697
01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:44,440
you've just shut down your thinking.

1698
01:38:45,300 --> 01:38:46,800
You've thrown up your hands.

1699
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:51,360
Oh, it's a conspiracy theory.

1700
01:38:51,460 --> 01:38:53,060
Oh, my God, have you stopped thinking.

1701
01:38:53,940 --> 01:38:56,420
I'm proud as hell that I'm a conspiracy theorist.

1702
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,920
Men and women of wealth and power conspire.

1703
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:03,640
To say the contrary is just stupidity.

1704
01:39:04,660 --> 01:39:05,600
They do it every day.

1705
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:06,540
We're all conspiring.

1706
01:39:06,660 --> 01:39:11,500
Humans, what someone said, we learned language to lie to each other.

1707
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:12,740
Right?

1708
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:17,140
I just finished a book, Moral Animal, this year, and they talk about how self-delusion,

1709
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,740
when you lie, you have tells, and we learn to read each other.

1710
01:39:22,020 --> 01:39:25,920
So if you're lying to me, I might not even consciously pick it up,

1711
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,800
but I'll pick up the subconscious cues that you're giving me.

1712
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:33,260
Self-delusion allows you to lie without showing the tells.

1713
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:34,720
Does that help you build it?

1714
01:39:34,940 --> 01:39:35,920
Then you could beat a lie detector?

1715
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:36,480
That helps you.

1716
01:39:36,860 --> 01:39:38,040
Well, that's right.

1717
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:39,260
That's how you beat a lie detector.

1718
01:39:39,420 --> 01:39:39,540
Right.

1719
01:39:39,580 --> 01:39:40,460
You just delude yourself.

1720
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:41,980
You delude yourself.

1721
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:42,480
Right.

1722
01:39:42,580 --> 01:39:43,040
You believe it.

1723
01:39:43,140 --> 01:39:43,280
Yeah.

1724
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:44,520
You believe it.

1725
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:51,800
Well, there isn't sort of like Hebrew or Jewish sort of like Proverbs where it's like,

1726
01:39:51,860 --> 01:39:55,060
if you like say, you know, let's say you smoke cigarettes and you're like, I'm going to smoke

1727
01:39:55,060 --> 01:39:55,420
cigarettes.

1728
01:39:55,540 --> 01:39:56,500
I'm never going to smoke cigarettes.

1729
01:39:56,500 --> 01:40:02,460
If you believe it in that moment, even if you pick up a cigarette out of weakness the next day, you weren't necessarily lying.

1730
01:40:02,700 --> 01:40:05,820
You were trying to state your current truth.

1731
01:40:06,820 --> 01:40:10,500
And so you would believe it, and that's your delusion if some people say you're just deluded.

1732
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:11,980
I thought you did a great job on Tucker.

1733
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:18,300
I thought you did a fantastic job of, like, sort of distilling all your work into two hours.

1734
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:18,900
Oh, it's wild.

1735
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,660
Well, I set out to hit topics.

1736
01:40:21,660 --> 01:40:25,740
I did a little strategizing and said, okay, there's topics.

1737
01:40:25,740 --> 01:40:27,240
I know Tucker knows a lot about.

1738
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,460
I am not getting away from this goddamn interview without hitting him.

1739
01:40:30,620 --> 01:40:35,480
Well, I thought you did a great job of covering each topic enough and covering a lot of topics.

1740
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:37,000
I thought you hit them all.

1741
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:41,380
Someone wrote on Twitter, I have so many thoughts after listening to David Kahn interviews with Tucker.

1742
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,200
The first of which is that I'm profoundly honored this man files my little account on this app.

1743
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:46,880
Tomorrow, this person will write us.

1744
01:40:47,060 --> 01:40:49,980
He did a long post on your thoughts on Bitcoin.

1745
01:40:49,980 --> 01:41:01,020
But he wrote, the thing that sticks with me is the idea that most sticks with me is the idea of information being flooded in the truth, being harder, if not impossible to find, which I absolutely agree with and believe is accelerating.

1746
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:08,580
He's curious if you're familiar with the Smith-Munt Act and how its modernization sort of allowed for influence campaigns.

1747
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,180
I don't know if I am or not.

1748
01:41:11,180 --> 01:41:21,800
So Obama, my familiarity with it is Obama sort of allowed or repealed the Smith-Munn Act, which said you could not propagandize the American people.

1749
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,860
The three-letter agencies could not do that to us.

1750
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:26,740
You could do that to the American people.

1751
01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:28,400
Yeah, that's comical.

1752
01:41:28,780 --> 01:41:28,900
Yeah.

1753
01:41:29,180 --> 01:41:30,500
And I'm going to look this up.

1754
01:41:30,660 --> 01:41:32,900
And he repealed it, I believe, is what happened.

1755
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,720
And so now they're allowed to propagandize us, our own agencies.

1756
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:37,660
Let me ask you this.

1757
01:41:37,660 --> 01:41:43,180
Do you think Obama's a front man pawn, or do you think he's a big swinging dick?

1758
01:41:43,540 --> 01:41:47,180
I think he was a Manchurian candidate.

1759
01:41:48,020 --> 01:41:50,460
Kind of like you were saying, like, raised for this MKUltra style.

1760
01:41:50,460 --> 01:42:00,740
But, like, I think when you sort of what I think of power is that if you rise to power, you go from, like, sort of being pawn to a player.

1761
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:05,640
And if you become a big enough player and you calculate your gambles enough, you become a don.

1762
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:10,820
Well, the question is, would a Manchurian candidate get to that stage?

1763
01:42:10,820 --> 01:42:16,760
So it's strange. You would say no, right? And I still think anyone we see in public is not the player.

1764
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,260
I think they are puppets to some extent.

1765
01:42:18,260 --> 01:42:19,880
Players don't have Wikipedia pages.

1766
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:27,440
Players don't have Wikipedia pages. You know, it's like John Gotti, I don't think was the head of, or Don Gotti, whatever his name was, the head of the mob.

1767
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:33,080
I think he's the front person for the real power, so that the real power stays behind and doesn't go to jail.

1768
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:43,180
So, or just doesn't, the real wealth, the hundred trillion or a hundred thousand quadrillion in offshore wealth is not known.

1769
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,160
Even the Panama Papers do not name the real.

1770
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:47,560
Pandora Paper, Panama Paper.

1771
01:42:47,580 --> 01:42:48,720
Pandora, whatever you want to call it.

1772
01:42:49,660 --> 01:42:51,240
Well, they're two different set of papers.

1773
01:42:51,620 --> 01:42:52,780
But I'm saying both then, both.

1774
01:42:52,860 --> 01:42:54,580
I don't think that they reveal everything.

1775
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,660
I think it's another layer of the onion, maybe.

1776
01:42:57,660 --> 01:43:00,900
So Peter Dale Scott refers to this as a negative imprint.

1777
01:43:00,900 --> 01:43:07,900
And he talks about how once in a great while you get this little flash, this little, the window opens ever so briefly.

1778
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:09,480
Like when Epstein killed himself.

1779
01:43:09,980 --> 01:43:11,060
Do you remember the press?

1780
01:43:11,740 --> 01:43:13,440
They didn't know what to do.

1781
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:14,560
I got to read you this.

1782
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:21,000
So the Smith-Munnth Act, formerly known as the U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948,

1783
01:43:21,260 --> 01:43:28,420
is a U.S. federal law that originally authorized the U.S. government to conduct international information and cultural exchange programs.

1784
01:43:28,420 --> 01:43:29,940
And it goes on.

1785
01:43:29,940 --> 01:43:56,940
But so you get the idea that they so in 19 in 2013 the Smith month Modernization Act passed and that's part of the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2013 signed by Obama. Key changes lifted the ban on domestic access to U.S. government produced international media. So I.E. Voice of America content allowed U.S. citizens and media outlets to access and rebroadcast materials originally created for foreign audiences.

1786
01:43:56,940 --> 01:44:01,620
This, according to Grok, did not authorize the creation of propaganda targeting Americans.

1787
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:03,960
So there's then some common misconceptions.

1788
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:11,580
So the question is, did Obama sign off on the idea that you could lie their asses off to us?

1789
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:12,380
Yeah, I think so.

1790
01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:18,140
And I think Obama did more to divide America with Trayvon Martin.

1791
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,720
I didn't see it at the time.

1792
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:21,840
I didn't see it at the time.

1793
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:23,240
I wasn't picking it up.

1794
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:27,400
I was a supporter at the time, at least in the beginning.

1795
01:44:28,220 --> 01:44:32,580
I was very upset with the way he handled the remnants of the great financial crisis.

1796
01:44:32,820 --> 01:44:39,960
Very similar to, I'm not a Trump supporter, but very similar to I think how Trump supporters feel like he's reneged on a lot of campaign promises this far in.

1797
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:44,240
I think Obama was the exact opposite of what he ran on.

1798
01:44:44,420 --> 01:44:47,680
He also bombed seven Muslim countries.

1799
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,240
When you elect a liberal democrat

1800
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,200
You're supposed to be getting a guy

1801
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,220
Who's not going to bomb the shit out of everybody

1802
01:44:54,220 --> 01:44:55,980
Right, but liberal democrats

1803
01:44:55,980 --> 01:44:57,940
20, 30, 40, 50 years ago

1804
01:44:57,940 --> 01:44:59,200
Didn't, you know, sort of like

1805
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,300
Keep government out of

1806
01:45:00,300 --> 01:45:01,200
Anti-war

1807
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,620
Anti-government in your life

1808
01:45:04,620 --> 01:45:07,300
You know, it was very cool and progressive

1809
01:45:07,300 --> 01:45:08,000
In a lot of ways

1810
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,360
Or, you know, the cool part of progressive

1811
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,880
Certain libertarian flavor to it, right

1812
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,460
Yeah, someone on Twitter wrote

1813
01:45:15,460 --> 01:45:16,980
Serial killers disappeared

1814
01:45:16,980 --> 01:45:19,900
at around the same time mass shooters showed up.

1815
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,220
Few will understand the significance of this statement.

1816
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:23,360
That's kind of interesting.

1817
01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:25,160
Wormhole there.

1818
01:45:25,420 --> 01:45:28,340
Well, I'm not, I am of the mind.

1819
01:45:28,860 --> 01:45:32,400
So if you read The Ultimate Evil,

1820
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,980
which is, it's called Search for the Sons of Sam,

1821
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,560
which you discover is that son of Sam, David Berkowitz,

1822
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:43,020
who was killing women when I was in my first year of grad school.

1823
01:45:43,220 --> 01:45:45,380
So I was there, I was in Manhattan thinking,

1824
01:45:45,580 --> 01:45:46,760
wow, this is a wacky place.

1825
01:45:46,980 --> 01:45:53,860
It turns out there were multiple shooters, multiple killers, multiple eyewitnesses said that.

1826
01:45:54,100 --> 01:46:00,940
Once they got Berkowitz, who said that his dog, his lion, is talking to him and he's satanic, and they said, okay, we got the guy.

1827
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,120
And then the killing stopped.

1828
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,020
Berkowitz then reaches out to a guy named Mori Terry.

1829
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:11,580
This is not in, I guess, no, this was the Mori Terry book.

1830
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,340
Reaches out to Mori Terry, a journalist, and says, I want to talk to you.

1831
01:46:15,340 --> 01:46:19,820
And all of a sudden he's not as crazy as he sounded.

1832
01:46:19,820 --> 01:46:25,680
And he starts talking, again throwing hints, just throwing these little hints to Terry

1833
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,840
about a network of satanic killers.

1834
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:34,580
And Terry starts tracking them down and it turns out that Berkowitz knew about killings

1835
01:46:34,580 --> 01:46:38,580
that he should not have been able to know anything about, like in San Francisco and

1836
01:46:38,580 --> 01:46:40,280
in Minnesota and places like that.

1837
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:44,980
And as Terry chases down leads, people are dying.

1838
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,140
So they're dying as fast as he can get near them.

1839
01:46:49,020 --> 01:46:50,440
And it became pretty clear.

1840
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:54,180
And so they actually reopened the Son of Sam case officially.

1841
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,520
And then they said nothing here and they closed it back up again.

1842
01:46:58,380 --> 01:46:58,480
Right.

1843
01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:08,980
Now, every time there has been a network of satanic culture, a network of child trafficking or whatever, the feds shut it down.

1844
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:12,080
Every last one of them, the Fed shut it down.

1845
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:12,500
Right.

1846
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:13,260
Yeah.

1847
01:47:13,260 --> 01:47:18,900
Now, the question I like to ask is, how many people, how many kids got smuggled over the border?

1848
01:47:19,1000 --> 01:47:20,480
Trafficked.

1849
01:47:20,900 --> 01:47:23,920
A word used by CNN, Fox, you name it.

1850
01:47:24,380 --> 01:47:26,560
Trafficked children over the southern border.

1851
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:27,640
Right, 350,000.

1852
01:47:28,540 --> 01:47:29,360
Where'd they go?

1853
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,100
No one can tell me where they went.

1854
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,880
There were NGOs that were warehousing these kids.

1855
01:47:38,980 --> 01:47:44,980
Where'd they go? Now you will occasionally see a couple hundred kids get

1856
01:47:44,980 --> 01:47:50,320
saved. I go a couple hundred out of 350,000 doesn't float my boat. Right?

1857
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,940
That's not enough. You will occasionally see pictures of traffickers who look

1858
01:47:54,940 --> 01:47:59,440
like South American scumbags. We don't know anything about them. We don't get

1859
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:02,980
their names. We just get this news report that says they caught a bunch of

1860
01:48:02,980 --> 01:48:07,840
traffickers. You never get the consumer. Now there's a guy named Ted Gunderson who

1861
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,880
was shortlisted to run the FBI years ago.

1862
01:48:11,060 --> 01:48:12,1000
Now, maybe that means he's a bad guy.

1863
01:48:14,140 --> 01:48:19,920
But he turned on the system and started outing all this stuff.

1864
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,700
And in 1991-ish, 92-ish, somewhere in there,

1865
01:48:24,180 --> 01:48:26,500
he said that a blonde-haired, blue-eyed kid

1866
01:48:26,500 --> 01:48:29,740
brings $50,000 on the open market.

1867
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:36,220
This is not a kid who's being bought by some person in a trailer park.

1868
01:48:36,220 --> 01:48:43,880
Sorry to those of you who live in trailer parks, but it turns out a lot of convicted sex offenders end up in trailer parks because that's the only place they can live.

1869
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,180
These are people of wealth and power buying these kids.

1870
01:48:49,180 --> 01:48:50,680
I've written a lot about it.

1871
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:51,760
I'm just not going to publish it.

1872
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:52,740
But there are different categories.

1873
01:48:52,900 --> 01:48:53,740
There's slave trade.

1874
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:54,960
There's sex trade.

1875
01:48:55,420 --> 01:48:57,560
There's organ trade.

1876
01:48:58,540 --> 01:49:00,840
There's the MKUltra guys.

1877
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,220
There's a whole bunch of different things.

1878
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,080
There's this thing called 50 Voices, a website.

1879
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,460
There's a thing called the Survivor.

1880
01:49:11,500 --> 01:49:12,820
Nick Bryant has it.

1881
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,1000
I've got it, but I can't remember what it's called,

1882
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,240
where they did a survey.

1883
01:49:17,500 --> 01:49:19,640
It's a very detailed survey asking,

1884
01:49:19,900 --> 01:49:21,840
what have you experienced as a survivor?

1885
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,740
And it's like a hundred different things,

1886
01:49:24,740 --> 01:49:29,180
and then it gives the percentages of the survivors

1887
01:49:29,180 --> 01:49:31,320
that experience each of these different things,

1888
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:38,220
like satanic ceremonies and drugs and sex trafficking and you name it,

1889
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:39,760
you know, assassinations, things like that.

1890
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,060
Like a hundred different categories of things.

1891
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:47,120
And it's this Bible of what the hell has happened to survivors.

1892
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,920
And so everyone admits that there's hundreds of thousands of kids.

1893
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,340
The official stats globally are like anywhere from 1 to 10 million.

1894
01:49:55,340 --> 01:50:03,440
Yet no one ever, ever identifies the people in positions of power who are getting these kits, ever.

1895
01:50:03,780 --> 01:50:08,840
I mean, it goes even further, the medicalization and just monetization of everything.

1896
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:20,940
So if you get like a C-section, which costs the people getting the C-section, the family, a lot of money, they sell everything on the other side.

1897
01:50:20,940 --> 01:50:29,320
all the you know well there's horrible videos abortion clinics selling those body parts right

1898
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:34,520
and so we're even umbilical cords from just even oh yeah that's full deliveries so it's

1899
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:41,280
that's profitable for the hospital on a net basis to and and it's still charging the customer

1900
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:47,980
like a tremendous amount of money and it's all being understand all of it behind the scenes and

1901
01:50:47,980 --> 01:50:51,260
And it gets so much darker with what you're talking about.

1902
01:50:51,260 --> 01:50:53,440
So Oliver Sacks wrote a bunch of books.

1903
01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:57,740
Oliver is this famous psychologist or psychiatrist who got the weirdest cases.

1904
01:50:57,740 --> 01:51:00,440
I mean, truly weird cases.

1905
01:51:00,440 --> 01:51:06,140
He had seen several instances where some guy all of a sudden woke up one morning and

1906
01:51:06,168 --> 01:51:08,928
He's convinced his leg is not his leg anymore.

1907
01:51:09,928 --> 01:51:13,648
He just, and he tries to throw it out of bed, and it's not his, and he freaks out.

1908
01:51:13,928 --> 01:51:15,628
And no amount of convincing.

1909
01:51:16,128 --> 01:51:19,688
You say, well, okay, where's your leg then if it's not yours?

1910
01:51:20,428 --> 01:51:21,468
Where'd this come from?

1911
01:51:21,528 --> 01:51:22,888
How did it get attached to your body?

1912
01:51:23,108 --> 01:51:26,768
They can't, so their brain somehow short-circuited overnight.

1913
01:51:27,208 --> 01:51:28,688
They had some sort of event.

1914
01:51:28,688 --> 01:51:34,308
What the medical community never did was cut off the guy's goddamn leg.

1915
01:51:36,168 --> 01:51:42,548
But we've now got kids self-diagnosing gender dysphoria,

1916
01:51:43,328 --> 01:51:46,948
and we've got doctors cutting off their breasts and cutting off their dicks.

1917
01:51:46,948 --> 01:51:49,788
I believe those doctors should all lose their licenses.

1918
01:51:50,508 --> 01:51:50,668
I agree.

1919
01:51:51,528 --> 01:51:57,148
You know, when transgenderism first showed up in Northern Europe as a medical procedure,

1920
01:51:57,808 --> 01:52:03,068
the care with which they sent the person through psychological testing and training

1921
01:52:03,068 --> 01:52:08,508
and living the existence before they did anything irreversible was incredible.

1922
01:52:09,788 --> 01:52:14,268
And if you could pass through all those tests, then they'd say, okay,

1923
01:52:14,268 --> 01:52:18,268
you are a valid candidate for a transgender surgery. Okay.

1924
01:52:19,548 --> 01:52:24,028
But now you can actually start getting hormone injections, which are irreversible.

1925
01:52:24,908 --> 01:52:29,788
Read Abigail Schreier's book. I can't remember the title, but she's only got one, I think. Abigail Schreier.

1926
01:52:29,788 --> 01:52:33,448
Most of these kids are just confused

1927
01:52:33,448 --> 01:52:35,748
They're probably gay or lesbian or whatever

1928
01:52:35,748 --> 01:52:38,128
And they're at this period in their life where they're confused

1929
01:52:38,128 --> 01:52:41,068
And social pressures are ridiculous

1930
01:52:41,068 --> 01:52:42,608
And so they want to feel special

1931
01:52:42,608 --> 01:52:44,788
And what happens is when you say you're transgender

1932
01:52:44,788 --> 01:52:47,048
You get big hugs

1933
01:52:47,048 --> 01:52:48,368
Big hugs

1934
01:52:48,368 --> 01:52:50,548
Oh, you're special

1935
01:52:50,548 --> 01:52:51,768
Then what do they do?

1936
01:52:51,888 --> 01:52:54,728
They do the transition and they move on to the next victim

1937
01:52:54,728 --> 01:52:58,728
And it's inexcusable to me

1938
01:52:58,728 --> 01:53:02,048
I don't care how much they want to get their dicks cut off,

1939
01:53:02,088 --> 01:53:04,548
and I don't care how much they want to get their breasts taken off.

1940
01:53:05,668 --> 01:53:08,748
There might be an age where I say above that age you're on your own,

1941
01:53:09,588 --> 01:53:15,128
but it ain't 14, and those surgeons should never practice medicine again.

1942
01:53:15,408 --> 01:53:19,688
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be interesting how that kind of gets dealt with.

1943
01:53:19,908 --> 01:53:22,708
I don't know if there's going to be a lot of criminal blowback,

1944
01:53:22,888 --> 01:53:25,788
just the same way with maybe the pandemic and stuff.

1945
01:53:25,788 --> 01:53:31,628
there wasn't and i also think transgenderism is going away i think transgenderism is going away

1946
01:53:31,628 --> 01:53:36,988
but i don't know if anyone's going to jail no they won't no they won't yeah and it wouldn't be fair

1947
01:53:36,988 --> 01:53:42,348
to put them in jail given that they were within what were perceived to be the rules when they were

1948
01:53:42,348 --> 01:53:47,948
doing it i don't think they should ever practice medicine again but but but it's it's like um i got

1949
01:53:47,948 --> 01:53:55,908
shit from Tucker for Cornell, for universities being woke as shit.

1950
01:53:55,908 --> 01:54:04,768
And I said, you got to remember that a year ago, if we weren't woke, we got crucified.

1951
01:54:04,768 --> 01:54:11,148
So you had to have your rainbow banners and all your things because you got crucified.

1952
01:54:11,148 --> 01:54:16,108
So you can't replay that tape and say, oh, now we know that that was over the top and

1953
01:54:16,108 --> 01:54:17,608
therefore you guys are assholes.

1954
01:54:17,608 --> 01:54:19,968
No, universities were just kind of responding,

1955
01:54:19,968 --> 01:54:22,048
trying to stay out of harm's way.

1956
01:54:23,068 --> 01:54:26,568
And it doesn't help that we're 98.5% left wing,

1957
01:54:26,568 --> 01:54:27,548
you know, there's that.

1958
01:54:27,548 --> 01:54:29,668
But here's a question I like to ask people,

1959
01:54:29,668 --> 01:54:31,808
and I've asked a number of high ranking administrators.

1960
01:54:31,808 --> 01:54:34,788
So universities are now hated pretty seriously

1961
01:54:34,788 --> 01:54:37,108
because of the student debt problem and stuff like that,

1962
01:54:37,108 --> 01:54:39,128
the wokeness, and there's just a lot of-

1963
01:54:39,128 --> 01:54:40,048
And the price.

1964
01:54:40,048 --> 01:54:41,888
We needed fastballs past our chin.

1965
01:54:41,888 --> 01:54:46,428
But I can't tell you I have ever seen

1966
01:54:47,608 --> 01:54:53,988
a university administrator standing up and explaining what an endowment is, what an overhead

1967
01:54:53,988 --> 01:54:56,728
rate is on research.

1968
01:54:56,728 --> 01:54:58,748
I did on Tucker.

1969
01:54:58,748 --> 01:55:06,448
I made sure I got there, but the president of Harvard was on mainstream media for 10

1970
01:55:06,448 --> 01:55:09,568
minutes and he defended DEI.

1971
01:55:09,568 --> 01:55:16,388
They're looking at $9 billion being yanked from them because of DEI.

1972
01:55:16,388 --> 01:55:22,508
And instead of explaining why $9 billion flows to Harvard, and I can make the case, it's

1973
01:55:22,508 --> 01:55:23,908
not insane.

1974
01:55:23,908 --> 01:55:27,448
It's not insane.

1975
01:55:27,448 --> 01:55:34,688
He's talking about supporting DEI, which is why he was losing the $9 billion.

1976
01:55:34,688 --> 01:55:36,448
That guy is a moron.

1977
01:55:36,448 --> 01:55:40,868
And they just got rid of a president who is a complete moron, who shouldn't have had a

1978
01:55:40,868 --> 01:55:45,788
PhD, shouldn't have had a job at Harvard, shouldn't have been president of Harvard.

1979
01:55:45,788 --> 01:55:51,608
fraud, Claudine Gay, and somehow she got to be president of Harvard.

1980
01:55:51,968 --> 01:55:55,928
That is a kind of a rot that had to be cleaned out.

1981
01:55:55,928 --> 01:55:58,868
You really had to get in there and scrape that out like a pumpkin.

1982
01:55:59,328 --> 01:55:59,528
Yeah.

1983
01:56:00,468 --> 01:56:04,008
Have you ever heard of the 9-11 memorial teardrop?

1984
01:56:04,488 --> 01:56:04,788
No.

1985
01:56:05,228 --> 01:56:07,848
That we got gifted by Russia gave us this memorial?

1986
01:56:08,828 --> 01:56:13,208
It sits directly across from New York City in Bayonne, New Jersey, just the other side

1987
01:56:13,208 --> 01:56:13,988
of the Statue of Liberty.

1988
01:56:13,988 --> 01:56:15,748
We hear nothing about it.

1989
01:56:16,608 --> 01:56:24,088
This, some would say beautiful, 100-foot-tall monument was gifted to the people of the United States by the people of Russia in 2006.

1990
01:56:24,508 --> 01:56:32,668
In memory of all those who lost their lives on that fateful day, September 11, 2001, the breaking and the cracked facade forms the shape of the two towers.

1991
01:56:33,448 --> 01:56:38,488
The giant suspended teardrop signifies the tears of the entire world that day.

1992
01:56:39,328 --> 01:56:40,368
I'll show you a picture of it.

1993
01:56:40,368 --> 01:56:44,248
Okay.

1994
01:56:45,988 --> 01:56:49,768
It looks like a testicle to me.

1995
01:56:50,148 --> 01:56:51,968
Or maybe a vagina.

1996
01:56:53,208 --> 01:56:54,528
Yeah, there's that.

1997
01:56:55,908 --> 01:56:56,768
There's that.

1998
01:56:58,048 --> 01:57:00,248
One could argue we're a couple of pervs seeing that.

1999
01:57:00,708 --> 01:57:01,948
My wife would not see that.

2000
01:57:02,868 --> 01:57:04,868
I was going down the rabbit hole on this one.

2001
01:57:04,868 --> 01:57:07,428
Some would say it was an underhanded insult.

2002
01:57:07,668 --> 01:57:10,088
We weren't really friendly with Russia at the time, I don't believe.

2003
01:57:10,088 --> 01:57:12,248
That was during the second portion.

2004
01:57:12,248 --> 01:57:14,528
When I was six, I think we were okay.

2005
01:57:14,528 --> 01:57:19,568
It wasn't until 2012 that we really started to get into it with Putin.

2006
01:57:19,568 --> 01:57:21,408
We got a lot worse.

2007
01:57:21,408 --> 01:57:22,408
And it was our fault.

2008
01:57:22,408 --> 01:57:24,308
It was our fault.

2009
01:57:24,308 --> 01:57:28,188
The only time I think I really diverged from some of your thinking, maybe not the only

2010
01:57:28,188 --> 01:57:33,488
time, but you know, I wanted to bring up was when you got into Bitcoin with Tucker.

2011
01:57:33,488 --> 01:57:37,328
I just, I want to just note on one thing.

2012
01:57:37,328 --> 01:57:39,848
Yeah, I knew that would piss off the Bitcoiners.

2013
01:57:39,848 --> 01:57:45,948
That didn't piss me off. I didn't piss me off. Didn't piss me off. I love hearing other viewpoints.

2014
01:57:46,108 --> 01:57:50,488
I think, you know, I think Bitcoin's anti-fragile. If we couldn't take other people's viewpoints

2015
01:57:50,488 --> 01:57:55,548
and listen to their opinions and strongman them ourselves and come to our own conclusions that

2016
01:57:55,548 --> 01:58:01,408
might not agree, then, you know, we're pretty fragile and weak. So it's all good. But, you know,

2017
01:58:01,468 --> 01:58:07,108
I don't I think it's possible that I think it's highly likely Bitcoin is a deep state operation

2018
01:58:07,108 --> 01:58:08,048
to save the dollar.

2019
01:58:08,308 --> 01:58:08,968
I think that's,

2020
01:58:09,208 --> 01:58:10,468
so I don't think that takes away

2021
01:58:10,468 --> 01:58:13,288
from some of the positive qualities of Bitcoin

2022
01:58:13,288 --> 01:58:15,508
that some of us get as holders or hodlers.

2023
01:58:15,868 --> 01:58:16,068
But I don't-

2024
01:58:16,068 --> 01:58:16,988
Well, I think it's possible

2025
01:58:16,988 --> 01:58:18,368
the guys who have it now

2026
01:58:18,368 --> 01:58:19,788
at some point will be told,

2027
01:58:19,908 --> 01:58:20,988
it's been fun.

2028
01:58:21,448 --> 01:58:22,408
You've gotten rich.

2029
01:58:22,848 --> 01:58:23,888
Have a nice day.

2030
01:58:24,208 --> 01:58:26,108
Yeah, I think they want the coins in custody.

2031
01:58:26,308 --> 01:58:28,488
I don't think they want you to have self-custody

2032
01:58:28,488 --> 01:58:30,408
or they might outlaw that.

2033
01:58:30,408 --> 01:58:33,248
So the problem I have with a number of the hodlers

2034
01:58:33,248 --> 01:58:37,828
is that they changed their story quite fluidly.

2035
01:58:37,928 --> 01:58:40,228
So they go from a libertarian stance.

2036
01:58:41,028 --> 01:58:44,888
They can't touch us to Larry Fink's now my best buddy.

2037
01:58:45,108 --> 01:58:48,728
And I go, anything that Larry Fink's involved with,

2038
01:58:48,808 --> 01:58:49,608
you should not trust.

2039
01:58:49,608 --> 01:58:52,968
I agree with this year has been such a paradox of Bitcoin.

2040
01:58:53,148 --> 01:58:56,188
It's been like, of the state rolling out the red carpet

2041
01:58:56,188 --> 01:58:57,668
for Bitcoin, and I really think crypto.

2042
01:58:58,328 --> 01:59:03,188
But I think that they need crypto, stable coins,

2043
01:59:03,948 --> 01:59:04,668
They want them.

2044
01:59:04,748 --> 01:59:07,008
I think those are the rails of surveillance.

2045
01:59:07,748 --> 01:59:09,328
Oh, I don't doubt that at all.

2046
01:59:09,328 --> 01:59:16,168
And so I think Bitcoin has to appreciate in value to sustain the narrative that crypto is here to stay.

2047
01:59:16,808 --> 01:59:19,468
So I think if Bitcoin goes to zero, you don't really have.

2048
01:59:19,968 --> 01:59:22,768
You've demoralized the people who you want to believe.

2049
01:59:23,108 --> 01:59:23,268
Yeah.

2050
01:59:23,408 --> 01:59:23,588
Yeah.

2051
01:59:23,748 --> 01:59:25,168
So I think, OK, fine.

2052
01:59:25,268 --> 01:59:26,548
It's a bridge to crypto.

2053
01:59:26,548 --> 01:59:34,208
and then hopefully they neuter or turn Bitcoin into digital pet rock or digital gold, right?

2054
01:59:34,248 --> 01:59:38,668
Because gold hasn't really taken down the central bankers or fractional reserve banking.

2055
01:59:38,808 --> 01:59:40,028
We're no longer tethered to gold.

2056
01:59:40,128 --> 01:59:41,528
They don't have to tether to Bitcoin.

2057
01:59:41,528 --> 01:59:45,788
Speaking of tether, tether's doing shit that I think is very problematic.

2058
01:59:46,748 --> 01:59:51,088
I don't think tether's necessarily a white hat.

2059
01:59:51,548 --> 01:59:52,248
I don't at all.

2060
01:59:52,688 --> 01:59:53,308
I think they're controlling-

2061
01:59:53,308 --> 01:59:57,908
Tether's buying shit that I don't think they should be buying if you want to call it a stablecoin.

2062
01:59:58,508 --> 01:59:59,548
I'm not arguing with you.

2063
01:59:59,648 --> 02:00:00,648
I'm not here to defend Tether.

2064
02:00:02,148 --> 02:00:07,328
Yeah, I find it very interesting and odd that a lot of Bitcoiners are very Tether proponents.

2065
02:00:07,448 --> 02:00:12,968
I think early on, I think, you know, you needed stablecoins to access Bitcoin.

2066
02:00:13,708 --> 02:00:17,908
You don't or since they need, there were people who used stablecoins a lot more.

2067
02:00:17,908 --> 02:00:24,608
I don't think you need it now, but I do think the traditional Wall Street bankers are pushing everyone towards stablecoins.

2068
02:00:25,128 --> 02:00:25,228
Right.

2069
02:00:25,588 --> 02:00:28,108
And I think that will be what's in your checking account in the future.

2070
02:00:28,928 --> 02:00:29,668
I agree.

2071
02:00:30,668 --> 02:00:32,688
That's a central bank digital currency.

2072
02:00:32,888 --> 02:00:33,088
Yeah.

2073
02:00:33,948 --> 02:00:37,688
I think that's authoritarianism in the making right there.

2074
02:00:37,888 --> 02:00:38,248
Sure.

2075
02:00:38,388 --> 02:00:39,028
I agree.

2076
02:00:39,768 --> 02:00:40,008
Okay.

2077
02:00:40,388 --> 02:00:43,628
But that doesn't mean that I think Bitcoin is authoritarianism in the making.

2078
02:00:43,628 --> 02:00:45,628
No, I just –

2079
02:00:45,628 --> 02:00:48,868
I think it's like a freedom tool the way like a satellite or.

2080
02:00:49,648 --> 02:00:52,448
I think the freedom part is delusional.

2081
02:00:52,748 --> 02:00:54,048
I think the freedom part is delusional.

2082
02:00:55,008 --> 02:00:55,448
Yeah.

2083
02:00:56,208 --> 02:01:01,028
I think there are, freedom tool doesn't mean absolute freedom.

2084
02:01:01,448 --> 02:01:03,488
You know, it incrementally improves your freedom.

2085
02:01:04,048 --> 02:01:04,668
No, no, no.

2086
02:01:04,848 --> 02:01:08,388
It's whatever freedom they want to give you, I think.

2087
02:01:08,388 --> 02:01:11,128
Well, they can still bring guns to you and put you in a box.

2088
02:01:11,268 --> 02:01:12,088
I get that.

2089
02:01:12,288 --> 02:01:12,388
Right.

2090
02:01:12,668 --> 02:01:14,188
Or they can say you can't.

2091
02:01:14,328 --> 02:01:15,048
What did I just say?

2092
02:01:15,048 --> 02:01:18,428
I heard the EU was capping a Bitcoin transaction you can do.

2093
02:01:18,628 --> 02:01:19,628
I just tried that the other day.

2094
02:01:19,828 --> 02:01:20,588
Yeah, I'm not sure.

2095
02:01:20,828 --> 02:01:25,988
Okay, but the point being is, I think the brilliant play,

2096
02:01:26,568 --> 02:01:28,928
here's a narrative that I have no idea if it's true or not,

2097
02:01:28,988 --> 02:01:31,108
but the NSA comes out and writes a paper on crypto,

2098
02:01:31,108 --> 02:01:32,988
and then you promote crypto,

2099
02:01:33,328 --> 02:01:46,692
and you crowdsource debugging the damn thing You crowdsource the exit ramps the on the enthusiasm the how do you trade it what are the defects in the thinking how do you do this

2100
02:01:47,012 --> 02:01:51,892
And for 20 years, the smartest guys in the goddamn world troubleshoot how to do this.

2101
02:01:52,612 --> 02:01:55,152
And then they say, thank you very much, we'll take it from here.

2102
02:01:55,332 --> 02:01:57,992
How do you not worry about that?

2103
02:01:58,192 --> 02:02:00,732
Well, take it from here in terms of, I mean, how do you decide?

2104
02:02:00,732 --> 02:02:05,992
Well, the transition from you being in control of your Bitcoin to them saying,

2105
02:02:05,992 --> 02:02:08,232
we'll take it from here. That transition is unknowable.

2106
02:02:08,232 --> 02:02:11,392
Yeah, I think they're going to tell you that it's nuclear-grade technology.

2107
02:02:12,392 --> 02:02:19,732
You shouldn't hold it as an individual. It's too valuable. It's too dangerous. It's a nation-state level.

2108
02:02:20,432 --> 02:02:25,792
Right. So the question will be, do the guys who have Bitcoin, when that transition occurs,

2109
02:02:26,272 --> 02:02:29,912
that's right, if you get to keep it and it maintains value, that would...

2110
02:02:29,912 --> 02:02:32,332
I don't know how much you're able to interact in a circular economy,

2111
02:02:32,332 --> 02:02:39,112
but you if you are able to keep it whether that's kyc bitcoin or non-ky or kyc free bitcoin

2112
02:02:39,112 --> 02:02:43,912
um and you might have to go off grid or whatever well there's are there several different kinds of

2113
02:02:43,912 --> 02:02:48,492
bitcoin well no there's not several different kinds of bitcoin but if you buy bitcoin on an

2114
02:02:48,492 --> 02:02:53,952
exchange they know you have it if you buy well okay cash they don't know you have it how do you

2115
02:02:53,952 --> 02:02:59,172
buy bitcoin with cash i don't even know how you do that meet someone in a cafe you oh okay but

2116
02:02:59,172 --> 02:03:00,232
They're trying to get rid of cash.

2117
02:03:00,232 --> 02:03:01,712
So that game's going to end.

2118
02:03:01,932 --> 02:03:02,712
There's other ways to buy it.

2119
02:03:02,712 --> 02:03:05,972
There's other ways to buy it without going through KYC procedures.

2120
02:03:06,252 --> 02:03:06,552
Right.

2121
02:03:06,652 --> 02:03:08,052
But once we're fully digital.

2122
02:03:08,452 --> 02:03:08,692
Right.

2123
02:03:09,192 --> 02:03:10,312
I get what you're saying.

2124
02:03:11,152 --> 02:03:17,932
I'm just, I'm saying you still, even if they can't debase it, they can't inflate it.

2125
02:03:18,472 --> 02:03:22,932
So you still get certain properties, right, that wouldn't go away if...

2126
02:03:22,932 --> 02:03:28,672
Isn't there some rule about how the Bitcoin community decides whether you could expand the number of Bitcoins?

2127
02:03:28,672 --> 02:03:32,752
isn't it? Tell me about that. Well, the way I would think about that is sort of the network

2128
02:03:32,752 --> 02:03:37,232
effective protocol. It's like you could change the rules of chess. That doesn't mean anyone's

2129
02:03:37,232 --> 02:03:41,792
going to play with you or acknowledge you as the winner of or be the best player in the world

2130
02:03:41,792 --> 02:03:47,072
because you beat everyone with your rules. Okay. The question is, why would...

2131
02:03:47,072 --> 02:03:51,632
Over here, no one's going to actually interact with you. No one's going to value it. There's

2132
02:03:51,632 --> 02:03:56,032
going to be no network security, no miners. Well, what's going to keep the authorities

2133
02:03:56,032 --> 02:03:58,572
when it really is.

2134
02:03:58,772 --> 02:03:59,752
I think there are going to be challenges.

2135
02:03:59,932 --> 02:04:04,492
I think that there will be institutions like BlackRock and Coinbase that say,

2136
02:04:04,572 --> 02:04:08,532
look, we have so much Bitcoin, we want to try to change the consensus rules.

2137
02:04:08,712 --> 02:04:11,672
We are now, the new Bitcoin is institutional Bitcoin.

2138
02:04:12,372 --> 02:04:13,352
And it will be confusing.

2139
02:04:14,132 --> 02:04:17,812
And there will be debates around what is the real Bitcoin,

2140
02:04:18,532 --> 02:04:21,172
who has the real Bitcoin, but like the longest chain.

2141
02:04:21,172 --> 02:04:24,892
So you don't think that these guys are smart enough to figure out how to debase it?

2142
02:04:26,032 --> 02:04:31,312
Well, I think you could look at affinity scams as a form of debasement, right?

2143
02:04:31,752 --> 02:04:37,012
Or anyone who's FTX who's not selling Bitcoin, but their customers think they're buying Bitcoin.

2144
02:04:37,532 --> 02:04:41,432
That's debasing in the sense that people thought they were allocating funds to Bitcoin,

2145
02:04:41,652 --> 02:04:44,112
and it didn't go into Bitcoin, and they don't have Bitcoin.

2146
02:04:45,032 --> 02:04:48,272
You can sell futures on Bitcoin, and you can use that.

2147
02:04:48,392 --> 02:04:50,452
Like, gold's been manipulated heavily.

2148
02:04:50,452 --> 02:04:52,632
So you're describing fractional reserve Bitcoin.

2149
02:04:52,672 --> 02:04:53,632
Fractional reserve Bitcoin.

2150
02:04:53,632 --> 02:04:57,012
But again, that doesn't affect your Bitcoin in self-custody.

2151
02:04:57,772 --> 02:05:01,792
And that might affect the exchange rate between if you were to sell your Bitcoin.

2152
02:05:02,372 --> 02:05:09,692
So this gets into – because I'm not a never sell your Bitcoin person in the sense that you should use Bitcoin as money.

2153
02:05:10,412 --> 02:05:19,592
So if you have a wedding coming up or a life event or any time you would use your savings or any money that you would normally have in your checking account, that's money.

2154
02:05:20,472 --> 02:05:22,432
Well, here's a problem.

2155
02:05:22,432 --> 02:05:29,952
I don't think they've enforced this, but my understanding is every time you use Bitcoin for anything, it is a taxable event.

2156
02:05:30,292 --> 02:05:34,872
And I don't think America is going to ever take that away because they're not going to treat it like money, right?

2157
02:05:35,452 --> 02:05:36,212
That's part of it.

2158
02:05:36,332 --> 02:05:37,472
They're not going to treat it like money.

2159
02:05:37,572 --> 02:05:38,512
They're not going to.

2160
02:05:38,512 --> 02:05:39,852
So it's an asset, not money.

2161
02:05:40,252 --> 02:05:40,952
It's an asset, not money.

2162
02:05:40,952 --> 02:05:42,832
In the legal and the tax sense.

2163
02:05:43,172 --> 02:05:45,172
Gold, by the way, is an asset, not money, too.

2164
02:05:45,472 --> 02:05:47,352
The guys who say gold is money are delusional.

2165
02:05:47,352 --> 02:05:52,712
It doesn't mean you can't go exchange gold or Bitcoin with another person,

2166
02:05:53,432 --> 02:05:55,492
peer-to-peer, and use it as money.

2167
02:05:56,192 --> 02:05:57,652
It doesn't mean that it's money.

2168
02:05:57,752 --> 02:06:01,032
Well, in theory, though, if you buy their car from them,

2169
02:06:01,452 --> 02:06:04,972
if you buy their car from them, in theory, that's a taxable event.

2170
02:06:05,432 --> 02:06:08,392
Right, but you'd have to do this sort of without letting them know.

2171
02:06:08,992 --> 02:06:10,712
Okay, so now you're sitting there.

2172
02:06:10,772 --> 02:06:12,492
Now you have to break the law to use Bitcoin.

2173
02:06:12,772 --> 02:06:13,052
Sure.

2174
02:06:13,852 --> 02:06:14,252
Okay.

2175
02:06:14,252 --> 02:06:15,092
I agree.

2176
02:06:15,092 --> 02:06:19,652
these are all limiting factors around it becoming used more frequently as money

2177
02:06:21,572 --> 02:06:26,612
right and and i do think that if they maintain the unit of account right just like with the petrodollar

2178
02:06:27,252 --> 02:06:33,012
just like before that with tying it to gold if you price everything in bit price everything in

2179
02:06:33,012 --> 02:06:40,852
dollars including bitcoin then the dollar lives on right absolutely you sell the debt and everything

2180
02:06:40,852 --> 02:06:48,452
is is is denominated in dollars still right so you need people to hold bitcoin in self-custody

2181
02:06:48,452 --> 02:06:53,332
and even think in bitcoin denominated terms because it's a better tool of the denominator

2182
02:06:53,972 --> 02:06:59,172
but that doesn't you can't for that's an emergent property though this is why gold bugs who talk

2183
02:06:59,172 --> 02:07:03,732
about denominating things in gold are delusional right but i mean you could do it for yourself

2184
02:07:03,732 --> 02:07:08,292
because you could say that's my unit of account when i trade with others right it doesn't mean

2185
02:07:08,292 --> 02:07:12,392
But the fact is, your groceries are going to be denominated in dollars.

2186
02:07:12,672 --> 02:07:14,312
Well, you could do the math.

2187
02:07:14,432 --> 02:07:16,812
It just makes the math very complicated to do.

2188
02:07:16,812 --> 02:07:26,212
You could see even people who live in Bitcoin, when they go to gamble online, they'll gamble in $20 denominated, even if they put Bitcoin on the website.

2189
02:07:26,752 --> 02:07:32,612
Right, but again, that's why I said if you're going to buy a house a year from now.

2190
02:07:33,032 --> 02:07:34,312
But I'm doing Bitcoin.

2191
02:07:35,332 --> 02:07:36,892
Well, but if you're thinking about it.

2192
02:07:36,892 --> 02:07:38,052
Let me point out.

2193
02:07:38,172 --> 02:07:40,372
A $20,000 house costs 400 Bitcoin.

2194
02:07:40,632 --> 02:07:42,532
Okay, let me point out the obvious thing, though.

2195
02:07:42,912 --> 02:07:44,152
Now let me point out the obvious.

2196
02:07:44,572 --> 02:07:46,572
You want to buy a house a year from now.

2197
02:07:47,052 --> 02:07:48,372
You put it in Bitcoin.

2198
02:07:49,672 --> 02:07:52,652
You don't know that you'll be able to buy that house a year from now.

2199
02:07:52,652 --> 02:07:53,852
Well, you have volatility, yes.

2200
02:07:53,892 --> 02:07:55,352
You have potential for high volatility.

2201
02:07:55,472 --> 02:07:55,872
Therefore.

2202
02:07:56,432 --> 02:07:59,192
But it's usually not positive over long periods of time.

2203
02:07:59,712 --> 02:08:00,952
It has been historically.

2204
02:08:01,352 --> 02:08:01,572
Yeah.

2205
02:08:02,012 --> 02:08:04,692
But I was more getting into not so much the bad or the speculation,

2206
02:08:04,692 --> 02:08:10,072
But sort of, you know, if the state is involved in any way, I don't think that negates the

2207
02:08:10,072 --> 02:08:12,992
sort of you can't debase it.

2208
02:08:13,492 --> 02:08:14,712
You can't inflate it away.

2209
02:08:14,912 --> 02:08:16,192
You have to work for it.

2210
02:08:16,252 --> 02:08:19,232
You have to either hash for it or buy it.

2211
02:08:19,232 --> 02:08:20,992
So you have to either work for it or inherit it.

2212
02:08:21,032 --> 02:08:22,012
Someone else has worked for it.

2213
02:08:22,092 --> 02:08:28,572
And you can still hopefully trade outside of the traditional economy, peer to peer.

2214
02:08:28,812 --> 02:08:34,172
So if some guy wants to sell you a house and says it's going to cost you four Bitcoin,

2215
02:08:34,172 --> 02:08:39,172
a year from now, then you denominated it in Bitcoin.

2216
02:08:39,932 --> 02:08:42,332
If someone says it's going to be $400,000,

2217
02:08:43,912 --> 02:08:48,912
if you park your wealth in Bitcoin,

2218
02:08:51,432 --> 02:08:55,752
you may buy that house a year from now with room to spare,

2219
02:08:55,752 --> 02:08:57,412
or you may not be able to buy it.

2220
02:08:57,412 --> 02:08:58,772
Oh, I hear what you're saying.

2221
02:08:58,772 --> 02:09:01,152
And therefore, if you're married and your wife says,

2222
02:09:01,152 --> 02:09:03,012
I want that fucking house, right?

2223
02:09:03,012 --> 02:09:04,252
I want that fucking house.

2224
02:09:04,552 --> 02:09:05,632
You fuck this up.

2225
02:09:05,852 --> 02:09:07,252
I'm divorcing your ass.

2226
02:09:07,352 --> 02:09:08,572
You're going to put it in the CV.

2227
02:09:09,392 --> 02:09:10,752
Bitcoin is, we all live this life.

2228
02:09:10,872 --> 02:09:12,932
Look, I mean, you'd live that life.

2229
02:09:13,712 --> 02:09:15,952
Everyone is trying to manage their wealth outside.

2230
02:09:16,092 --> 02:09:20,092
If they're lucky to build wealth outside of their vacation, enough to store.

2231
02:09:20,532 --> 02:09:22,352
It's like, what the hell am I going to do with this thing?

2232
02:09:22,592 --> 02:09:23,952
Because I can't keep it in dollars.

2233
02:09:23,952 --> 02:09:28,752
So we all have to figure out some sort of way to shepherd that value forward,

2234
02:09:28,752 --> 02:09:35,152
whether it's gold, metals, equities, real estate, bonds, CDs even.

2235
02:09:35,552 --> 02:09:39,872
The other thing, I think, a way to think about this is they talk about new ideas and science.

2236
02:09:41,232 --> 02:09:46,752
They take hold through the deaths of the guys who held the old ideas,

2237
02:09:47,632 --> 02:09:49,692
through the attrition of the old guard.

2238
02:09:50,052 --> 02:09:54,212
So it's quite possible that the boomers collectively, collectively,

2239
02:09:54,772 --> 02:09:56,532
are not going to ever sign off on Bitcoin.

2240
02:09:56,532 --> 02:10:00,732
and that as they die off, Bitcoin gets stronger.

2241
02:10:02,252 --> 02:10:02,812
Yeah.

2242
02:10:03,332 --> 02:10:05,952
I mean, there are boomers who like Bitcoin.

2243
02:10:06,192 --> 02:10:08,852
The last note I'll mention about Bitcoin

2244
02:10:08,852 --> 02:10:10,912
before I move on to the final question.

2245
02:10:11,832 --> 02:10:13,972
So Bitcoin has a certain property around time lock.

2246
02:10:14,072 --> 02:10:15,312
This is sort of a newer development.

2247
02:10:15,812 --> 02:10:18,632
So you could time lock the coins or sats.

2248
02:10:18,752 --> 02:10:19,592
It doesn't have to be whole coins.

2249
02:10:20,152 --> 02:10:22,572
So they cannot be moved for a period of time.

2250
02:10:23,152 --> 02:10:23,392
Right.

2251
02:10:23,392 --> 02:10:24,952
That's a unique form of defense.

2252
02:10:24,952 --> 02:10:27,932
unlike, say, what happens to Canadian truckers

2253
02:10:27,932 --> 02:10:31,432
and GoFundMe who had their funds taken

2254
02:10:31,432 --> 02:10:34,672
and it's very hard to access medical,

2255
02:10:35,732 --> 02:10:37,492
food without money.

2256
02:10:38,612 --> 02:10:41,112
What would Edward Bernays think about today?

2257
02:10:42,692 --> 02:10:44,672
Edward Bernays would have been the guy

2258
02:10:44,672 --> 02:10:48,272
who created the whole Bitcoin movement.

2259
02:10:49,952 --> 02:10:51,972
He would have been the brains behind it.

2260
02:10:51,972 --> 02:11:00,572
Edward Bernays went, Edward Bernays sold pianos by convincing people they needed music rooms in their house.

2261
02:11:01,652 --> 02:11:03,892
And once they built a music room, they needed a piano.

2262
02:11:04,632 --> 02:11:14,032
Edward Bernays sold cigarettes to women by convincing them that that showed they were fiercely independent.

2263
02:11:15,232 --> 02:11:17,452
And smoking was cool for women.

2264
02:11:17,452 --> 02:11:27,592
So Edward Bernays in his original book said, this is amazing actually, he said, politicians have not figured out the power of propaganda.

2265
02:11:27,792 --> 02:11:30,252
I'm going, whoa, they learn fast, Edward.

2266
02:11:31,432 --> 02:11:33,212
They didn't take them long.

2267
02:11:33,572 --> 02:11:35,852
Edward Bernays ended up working for the CIA.

2268
02:11:36,252 --> 02:11:39,292
And his nephew was the CEO of Netflix, the founder.

2269
02:11:39,592 --> 02:11:40,092
Oh, is that right?

2270
02:11:40,252 --> 02:11:40,772
I didn't know that.

2271
02:11:41,132 --> 02:11:41,912
I didn't know that.

2272
02:11:42,272 --> 02:11:46,652
And I think Edward Bernays might have been the nephew of Sigmund Freud or something.

2273
02:11:46,652 --> 02:11:52,412
there's some connection there yeah right yeah we are we are just a fountain of random trivia here

2274
02:11:52,412 --> 02:11:56,892
aren't we well i saved it all up for you dave you're the only one i'll get into this stuff with

2275
02:11:57,452 --> 02:12:03,132
generally yeah yeah you know well you want to chat have you chatted with aaron day we talked about

2276
02:12:03,132 --> 02:12:08,812
this i've been in dm'd with him i'm trying to get him he's agreed to come on the show

2277
02:12:09,372 --> 02:12:24,176
okay okay you guys would be a great compliment because he under i an ignoramus right Aaron and Aaron a fan of digital i mean he not going to fight you on that like i do i just going to go to my grave

2278
02:12:24,176 --> 02:12:28,176
probably not being a huh i've been tempted to buy some bitcoin so i can go out on twitter and say

2279
02:12:28,176 --> 02:12:32,736
now would you all shut the up they'll send it just i i know they will and then i'll say i have

2280
02:12:32,736 --> 02:12:36,896
bitcoin now shut the up but here's the deal that's i think that's one of the worst sales pitches for

2281
02:12:36,896 --> 02:12:40,656
bitcoin though it's like you're telling i think this is the most valuable thing in the world here

2282
02:12:40,656 --> 02:12:41,756
I'll send you some for free.

2283
02:12:44,696 --> 02:12:47,876
Yeah, Marty's promised to help me set up an account of stuff.

2284
02:12:48,176 --> 02:12:52,296
I get so frustrated when my passwords fuck up,

2285
02:12:52,356 --> 02:12:53,596
which we were talking about,

2286
02:12:53,956 --> 02:12:57,816
that the idea of having my net worth behind a password

2287
02:12:57,816 --> 02:13:00,116
is spooky as shit.

2288
02:13:00,216 --> 02:13:00,676
I hear you.

2289
02:13:00,776 --> 02:13:01,856
There's steps you could take.

2290
02:13:01,856 --> 02:13:02,536
I'm a Luddite.

2291
02:13:02,796 --> 02:13:04,616
I know, but I'm a Luddite.

2292
02:13:04,916 --> 02:13:05,736
I'm a Luddite.

2293
02:13:06,136 --> 02:13:09,256
I get pissed off when shit like that fails.

2294
02:13:09,256 --> 02:13:12,256
And the idea of that, I'm going, no, no, no.

2295
02:13:12,296 --> 02:13:15,156
I want to be able to walk into a bank and say, help me.

2296
02:13:16,076 --> 02:13:18,176
My account, I can't get through online.

2297
02:13:18,356 --> 02:13:19,036
Help me.

2298
02:13:19,636 --> 02:13:19,896
You know.

2299
02:13:20,336 --> 02:13:21,856
And that's why I'm worried about AI.

2300
02:13:22,056 --> 02:13:23,176
That's why I'm worried about AI.

2301
02:13:23,576 --> 02:13:26,756
My 84-year-old mother is like, hey, can I take self-custard?

2302
02:13:26,796 --> 02:13:28,376
I'm like, I don't know if that's such a great idea.

2303
02:13:29,436 --> 02:13:30,736
Yeah, you're 84.

2304
02:13:32,296 --> 02:13:37,696
I, by the way, as you get older, you should write out a document telling everyone where everything is.

2305
02:13:37,696 --> 02:13:41,416
I've written out a document that has account numbers and things like that.

2306
02:13:41,416 --> 02:13:42,216
Yeah, that's crucial.

2307
02:13:42,576 --> 02:13:49,136
And the other thing is, setting an estate is complicated.

2308
02:13:49,556 --> 02:13:54,336
You should consolidate the number of bank accounts and stuff down as you get older.

2309
02:13:54,756 --> 02:14:02,056
Because if you have $5 million with Fidelity, they will help your estate figure that out.

2310
02:14:02,176 --> 02:14:05,836
If you have $10,000 with some bank, they couldn't give a shit about you.

2311
02:14:05,976 --> 02:14:07,096
You're not worth it.

2312
02:14:07,696 --> 02:14:10,576
So all the medallion signatures, all the crap you have to do.

2313
02:14:10,576 --> 02:14:17,016
So as you get older, I'm selling a plot of land so my kids don't have to worry about it.

2314
02:14:17,896 --> 02:14:20,036
As you get older, consolidate it.

2315
02:14:20,096 --> 02:14:24,636
Now, I spread all over kingdom come in 06 because I saw 07, 08, 09 coming.

2316
02:14:25,876 --> 02:14:33,176
And so I threw accounts across all sorts of different institutions to stay under the 250K limit

2317
02:14:33,176 --> 02:14:36,256
and different kinds, credit unions, Fidelity,

2318
02:14:36,676 --> 02:14:39,356
Charles Schwab, Vanguard, you name it.

2319
02:14:39,956 --> 02:14:41,656
And it's created a mess.

2320
02:14:42,076 --> 02:14:42,856
That's why I love Bitcoin.

2321
02:14:43,556 --> 02:14:47,796
Which I've been slowly but surely working towards

2322
02:14:47,796 --> 02:14:49,196
consolidating back.

2323
02:14:49,196 --> 02:14:51,716
I should just all put it in Bitcoin and move on.

2324
02:14:52,416 --> 02:14:53,156
Yeah, one day.

2325
02:14:54,116 --> 02:14:54,416
One day.

2326
02:14:54,496 --> 02:14:55,096
Your ego will.

2327
02:14:55,576 --> 02:14:57,776
One day I'll do a podcast with someone

2328
02:14:57,776 --> 02:15:01,716
and on the podcast, we will set up my account

2329
02:15:01,716 --> 02:15:02,616
and it will go viral.

2330
02:15:02,616 --> 02:15:04,936
There's a timeline where you're a hardcore Bitcoiner.

2331
02:15:05,676 --> 02:15:07,536
As we go out, I'll roll out this.

2332
02:15:07,676 --> 02:15:11,136
So Abaddon, which is a Hebrew noun, means place of destruction.

2333
02:15:11,376 --> 02:15:15,196
That is literally spelled a bad Don, like Donald Trump, a bad Don.

2334
02:15:15,676 --> 02:15:19,916
Abaddon, place of destruction, literal meaning the perishing place or ruin.

2335
02:15:20,176 --> 02:15:21,396
Human Abaddon?

2336
02:15:21,736 --> 02:15:21,996
Yeah.

2337
02:15:22,276 --> 02:15:23,176
Isn't that coincidental?

2338
02:15:23,616 --> 02:15:24,756
Yeah, I think so.

2339
02:15:25,616 --> 02:15:26,996
And we're not.

2340
02:15:27,556 --> 02:15:30,396
And then Elon Musk, you know, they rolled out the XChat today.

2341
02:15:30,396 --> 02:15:32,676
So we were talking, I think, that before we started.

2342
02:15:32,816 --> 02:15:33,996
Yeah, I didn't like that at all.

2343
02:15:34,196 --> 02:15:35,616
That's, well, you know, it's coming.

2344
02:15:35,696 --> 02:15:38,476
So he just rolled out an entire new communication stack.

2345
02:15:38,656 --> 02:15:41,656
Now, do I have to do that once or every time I want to go to my messages?

2346
02:15:42,096 --> 02:15:43,896
Maybe every time you go on a different device.

2347
02:15:44,876 --> 02:15:45,096
Okay.

2348
02:15:45,316 --> 02:15:45,856
I don't know.

2349
02:15:46,296 --> 02:15:48,616
But this is now encrypted messages, audio, video.

2350
02:15:48,696 --> 02:15:51,156
Now it asked me to put it in again.

2351
02:15:51,496 --> 02:15:52,636
All right, this is what Elon said, though.

2352
02:15:52,736 --> 02:15:54,356
Money comes out soon.

2353
02:15:54,776 --> 02:15:56,336
Join us if you want to build cool products.

2354
02:15:56,536 --> 02:15:58,136
X will be the everything app.

2355
02:15:58,556 --> 02:15:59,016
It's coming.

2356
02:15:59,016 --> 02:16:02,816
Yeah, he wants to take PayPal and shit and everything rolling all together.

2357
02:16:03,236 --> 02:16:03,316
Yeah.

2358
02:16:04,176 --> 02:16:12,836
Elon is, the world needs occasional Elons because they really do change the world.

2359
02:16:13,136 --> 02:16:15,396
But he is not.

2360
02:16:15,876 --> 02:16:16,596
I don't think he's a front.

2361
02:16:16,736 --> 02:16:18,316
I don't think he runs any of these companies.

2362
02:16:18,596 --> 02:16:19,876
I don't think he's a genius.

2363
02:16:20,236 --> 02:16:21,596
I don't think he hangs out with any of these women.

2364
02:16:21,736 --> 02:16:25,656
No, I've never heard him say anything that indicates a high IQ.

2365
02:16:25,656 --> 02:16:30,276
There are certain people when they're talking, you're like, whoa, whoa, this person's smart.

2366
02:16:30,776 --> 02:16:32,936
This guy or girl, wow, this is all signal.

2367
02:16:34,256 --> 02:16:41,136
And I really think, I have a feeling, anytime I've seen him with snarky little answers and press clips,

2368
02:16:41,636 --> 02:16:43,596
little snippets, I think he's served those up.

2369
02:16:43,696 --> 02:16:44,016
Okay.

2370
02:16:44,416 --> 02:16:48,216
Well, I sure don't find Sam Altman impressive.

2371
02:16:48,456 --> 02:16:52,936
I have a hard enough time running a podcast that barely breaks even,

2372
02:16:52,936 --> 02:16:55,476
much less run six multinational corporations.

2373
02:16:55,656 --> 02:17:00,016
that all happen to be state funded and highly intertwined with the defense industry.

2374
02:17:00,236 --> 02:17:03,676
Yeah, I know. I know. It's awfully hard to argue that Elon's not a PSYOP.

2375
02:17:03,896 --> 02:17:05,216
That would be a tough case to make.

2376
02:17:05,436 --> 02:17:06,416
I think he's Teal's front man.

2377
02:17:06,636 --> 02:17:08,196
Oh, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of that.

2378
02:17:08,416 --> 02:17:09,196
Yeah, totally.

2379
02:17:10,536 --> 02:17:12,956
All right, Dave, this has been epic as usual.

2380
02:17:13,916 --> 02:17:15,996
Another two hours, two and a half hours in the books.

2381
02:17:16,396 --> 02:17:19,156
It's funny. I really do not want to write about this shit.

2382
02:17:19,236 --> 02:17:23,456
I've really decided I don't, but I seem to be more than happy to talk about it.

2383
02:17:23,456 --> 02:17:29,596
Writing about it in some sense is safer because you can think about what you're saying as opposed to blurting out bizarre shit.

2384
02:17:30,776 --> 02:17:35,276
But at the same time, writing it has a real sort of commitment, right?

2385
02:17:35,456 --> 02:17:38,036
For example, writing a blog is different than writing a book.

2386
02:17:38,376 --> 02:17:42,776
A book, there's just a much higher bar on things like fact-checking.

2387
02:17:43,796 --> 02:17:46,776
You read a blog, if you take that at face value, you're nuts.

2388
02:17:46,876 --> 02:17:48,076
But you consider yours a book.

2389
02:17:48,236 --> 02:17:50,916
I mean, the writing is fantastic.

2390
02:17:51,496 --> 02:17:54,796
The alliteration, the jokes, the callback.

2391
02:17:54,796 --> 02:17:56,456
Well, this year's not going to be any good.

2392
02:17:56,756 --> 02:17:59,816
By your description, this year's going to suck because it's going to be short.

2393
02:18:00,116 --> 02:18:01,396
I don't think it's going to be funny.

2394
02:18:02,236 --> 02:18:07,976
It's going to be titled, you know, 404 error because it's going to all of a sudden go, where'd it go?

2395
02:18:09,656 --> 02:18:10,876
I think one of the other errors.

2396
02:18:10,876 --> 02:18:16,016
And it's because, I don't know, your audience might not know this, but I'll say this.

2397
02:18:16,936 --> 02:18:19,416
Tucker Carlson's interview triggered the Zionists.

2398
02:18:19,416 --> 02:18:28,456
I've been getting the shit beat out of me, and I've thought hard about whether I want to get into all these debates with all these people online.

2399
02:18:28,716 --> 02:18:30,576
I now have 150,000 followers.

2400
02:18:31,296 --> 02:18:33,416
I'm now drawing fire.

2401
02:18:33,796 --> 02:18:43,476
I've got Victor Davis Hanson creating false narratives to bring me down a little bit because I'm affiliated with Tucker, and I'm going, I got 15 years left.

2402
02:18:43,596 --> 02:18:45,356
I figure round number gets me to 85.

2403
02:18:46,376 --> 02:18:49,256
Do I want to spend it doing this bullshit?

2404
02:18:49,416 --> 02:18:53,456
and I think what I should probably do is fucking go play golf.

2405
02:18:53,616 --> 02:18:54,156
Do you like golf?

2406
02:18:54,736 --> 02:18:55,436
I did.

2407
02:18:55,656 --> 02:18:57,056
I haven't played much of it.

2408
02:18:57,416 --> 02:19:00,836
About three years ago, I played seriously.

2409
02:19:00,836 --> 02:19:03,096
And then the next summer, spring, when I came out,

2410
02:19:03,156 --> 02:19:04,996
I'd lost everything I had recovered.

2411
02:19:05,316 --> 02:19:06,676
When I was a kid, I was a good golfer.

2412
02:19:06,976 --> 02:19:10,956
And then I tried to get it back, and I worked really hard,

2413
02:19:11,076 --> 02:19:16,936
and then it didn't stick, and I lost my drive, as they say.

2414
02:19:19,416 --> 02:19:23,036
But I should play golf.

2415
02:19:23,036 --> 02:19:24,816
Good for me, it's good for my health.

2416
02:19:24,816 --> 02:19:27,816
The lake I live on, are you a fisherman?

2417
02:19:29,016 --> 02:19:32,296
My dad was an avid fisherman and my son loves it.

2418
02:19:32,296 --> 02:19:33,516
So you know about it.

2419
02:19:33,516 --> 02:19:34,356
I know about it.

2420
02:19:34,356 --> 02:19:35,196
You saw about it.

2421
02:19:35,196 --> 02:19:38,076
My house hangs off a hundred foot cliff

2422
02:19:38,076 --> 02:19:39,836
looking west over Keogah Lake.

2423
02:19:39,836 --> 02:19:43,596
I can throw a rotten apple and hit the water from my house

2424
02:19:43,596 --> 02:19:44,396
a hundred feet in the air.

2425
02:19:44,396 --> 02:19:46,616
It's utopia, right?

2426
02:19:46,616 --> 02:19:54,356
Cayuga Lake holds the all-time New York State largemouth and smallmouth bass record broken

2427
02:19:54,356 --> 02:19:55,536
within the last four years.

2428
02:19:55,956 --> 02:19:58,156
And I'm not fishing it.

2429
02:19:59,276 --> 02:20:00,596
Explain that to me.

2430
02:20:02,256 --> 02:20:02,916
How is that?

2431
02:20:02,936 --> 02:20:03,876
And I said that on Tucker.

2432
02:20:04,476 --> 02:20:09,616
The bottom line is, what I didn't know is that going on Tucker was going to pull me into

2433
02:20:09,616 --> 02:20:10,636
World War III.

2434
02:20:11,316 --> 02:20:16,376
And you couldn't even see it yet because he has gone into World War III like using me

2435
02:20:16,376 --> 02:20:24,716
is the launch pad. Now actually before that he had Charlie Kirk, he had Dave Smith. But

2436
02:20:24,716 --> 02:20:29,376
since then, now my name is being used in the same sentence with Fuente. So there's this

2437
02:20:29,376 --> 02:20:36,236
one part where a head of a national Jewish society, I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm not anti-Israel,

2438
02:20:36,816 --> 02:20:42,916
but we're getting close to where Netanyahu, he can jump in a fucking leg. I think he's

2439
02:20:42,916 --> 02:20:47,176
a bad guy. I think you should vote him out of there. And Israel, the government's a problem.

2440
02:20:47,776 --> 02:20:53,396
And the slaughter's a problem. Now, the head of this Jewish society called me a Holocaust denier.

2441
02:20:54,756 --> 02:21:00,136
He put me with Fuentes. I'm not with Fuentes. I don't deserve to be with Fuentes. And so I posted

2442
02:21:00,136 --> 02:21:03,716
his quote. I've written this. I've written that. I'm going to write this. I'm going to defend myself.

2443
02:21:03,796 --> 02:21:09,636
And I've written about Victor Davis Hanson telling bullshit stories about me. He's a great historian

2444
02:21:09,636 --> 02:21:13,036
and he's making shit up and it's driving me nuts.

2445
02:21:13,136 --> 02:21:14,196
So I'm going at him.

2446
02:21:15,856 --> 02:21:17,996
But I got to the end and I said,

2447
02:21:17,996 --> 02:21:22,616
look, dude, I could call you a lying pig fucker,

2448
02:21:23,116 --> 02:21:25,196
which by the way, pig was carefully chosen.

2449
02:21:26,196 --> 02:21:28,556
And I said, but I can't

2450
02:21:28,556 --> 02:21:30,876
because I can't defend that entire statement.

2451
02:21:32,136 --> 02:21:34,876
And then I said, so what we could do

2452
02:21:34,876 --> 02:21:36,676
is we could sit down and have lunch together

2453
02:21:36,676 --> 02:21:37,936
and talk it out or,

2454
02:21:37,936 --> 02:21:43,216
And then I have this meme that looks like a Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer meme that says, go fuck yourself.

2455
02:21:44,876 --> 02:21:46,756
And then I'm going to go to conclusions.

2456
02:21:46,956 --> 02:21:51,416
And the conclusions are going to be a summary.

2457
02:21:51,596 --> 02:21:57,696
I believe it's going to be a summary of the institutions that could fall in this fourth turning.

2458
02:21:57,696 --> 02:22:08,216
which includes the U.S. dollar, fiat currency, NATO, WEF, Canada, Ukraine, Israel, you name it.

2459
02:22:08,556 --> 02:22:10,436
It's tons of stuff.

2460
02:22:11,096 --> 02:22:15,836
There's tons of institutions that could go down before this mess is over.

2461
02:22:16,096 --> 02:22:17,816
And then I'm signing off.

2462
02:22:18,076 --> 02:22:19,836
So it's going to be very abbreviated.

2463
02:22:19,836 --> 02:22:27,836
The other thing I noticed is my notes did not have funny stories in them.

2464
02:22:29,896 --> 02:22:32,676
I was not picking up funny stories.

2465
02:22:33,676 --> 02:22:35,296
Now, is that me?

2466
02:22:36,556 --> 02:22:38,656
And if so, that's a problem.

2467
02:22:39,836 --> 02:22:46,976
If it's not me, if it's the fact that Zero Hedge is not giving me the information it used to give me,

2468
02:22:46,976 --> 02:23:00,560
Twitter not giving me the information you used to give me because the signals being drowned out by propaganda I can write what I used to write because there so much crap

2469
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:01,700
Yeah, all slop.

2470
02:23:01,720 --> 02:23:04,440
And I'm so frustrated. It's all slop.

2471
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:06,820
And so it's not funny.

2472
02:23:07,780 --> 02:23:08,940
It's frustrating.

2473
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:13,060
And you're hearing it in the tone of my voice.

2474
02:23:13,060 --> 02:23:17,600
and I was going to go to war against the Zionists,

2475
02:23:18,500 --> 02:23:21,900
not the Jews, not the good people,

2476
02:23:22,500 --> 02:23:24,640
but the rabid bastards like Mark Levin.

2477
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,560
Mark Levin and Ted Cruz went at me like crazy.

2478
02:23:28,580 --> 02:23:30,520
They still use me as a talking point,

2479
02:23:30,700 --> 02:23:32,560
but at least they stopped using my name.

2480
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:36,160
Mark Levin can eat shit and die.

2481
02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:37,940
I would cheer.

2482
02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:41,760
This would be dancing Israeli time, right?

2483
02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:45,700
And Ted Cruz, what a sack of shit.

2484
02:23:45,780 --> 02:23:47,260
I've thought that for so many years.

2485
02:23:47,340 --> 02:23:48,780
That's not because I butt hurt.

2486
02:23:48,880 --> 02:23:52,300
By the way, I'm on record saying Mark Levin is a piece of shit

2487
02:23:52,300 --> 02:23:56,140
prior to him jamming it up my ass.

2488
02:23:57,780 --> 02:24:01,280
So it's not because he butt hurt me that I'm mad at him.

2489
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:07,840
He is what I refer to as a rabid bobcat in heat.

2490
02:24:08,360 --> 02:24:10,760
So as far as I'm concerned, as I put it,

2491
02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:15,400
I said if the guy wasn't supporting Israel, he'd be selling flaffles on the corner.

2492
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:16,800
I'm just pissed at him.

2493
02:24:17,020 --> 02:24:18,520
I'm pissed at these guys.

2494
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:20,580
I'm pissed at Israel for killing people.

2495
02:24:20,980 --> 02:24:23,840
It is not anti-Semitic to be pissed at genocides.

2496
02:24:24,140 --> 02:24:28,160
I'm pissed at George Bush for killing millions of people in the Middle East.

2497
02:24:28,380 --> 02:24:34,580
I'm pissed at NATO for the Ukraine war, which is all NATO's fault.

2498
02:24:35,080 --> 02:24:39,880
Putin said, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, and we fucking did it,

2499
02:24:39,880 --> 02:24:47,800
and now there's a million dead Ukrainians because we wanted a war.

2500
02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:50,280
Inexcusable, inexcusable.

2501
02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:57,560
How many dead Yemenis are there because we gave the Saudi Arabia the bombs to drop on Yemen?

2502
02:24:57,560 --> 02:25:00,600
When did Yemen attack us?

2503
02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:02,920
When did Iran attack us?

2504
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:07,160
When did Syria attack us?

2505
02:25:07,160 --> 02:25:09,720
Never.

2506
02:25:09,720 --> 02:25:13,520
They're not stupid enough to attack us, but we just make shit up and we bomb them.

2507
02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:17,240
Ron Paul was right.

2508
02:25:17,300 --> 02:25:18,160
This is blowback.

2509
02:25:18,980 --> 02:25:25,040
If I had my family killed, I'd strap a bomb on me and I'd go get somebody.

2510
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:26,000
Right?

2511
02:25:26,180 --> 02:25:27,040
It's that simple.

2512
02:25:27,140 --> 02:25:28,380
That's why they do it.

2513
02:25:28,980 --> 02:25:37,900
And if people can't see this, and if every time I criticize Israel, you want to call me anti-Semite, you are the problem.

2514
02:25:37,900 --> 02:25:45,260
because every country I know lies their ass off every leadership I know lies their ass off

2515
02:25:45,260 --> 02:25:54,820
if I can't call them out you are the problem not you whoever's ripping me

2516
02:25:54,820 --> 02:26:01,940
did I get mad there yes I got mad there you get my blood is pumping now well you were the internet

2517
02:26:01,940 --> 02:26:09,220
for that day those few days it was all dave column it was all day common i didn't like it

2518
02:26:11,220 --> 02:26:18,180
well and i watched dave dave smith and and candace these guys just shake it right off

2519
02:26:18,180 --> 02:26:25,620
just shake it off and i go dave you're a no i do not want to spend my last 15 years fighting people

2520
02:26:25,620 --> 02:26:30,020
well they embrace it that's part of their it's they embrace that happens the bigger they get

2521
02:26:30,020 --> 02:26:31,960
You know who I find entertaining as fuck?

2522
02:26:32,020 --> 02:26:33,240
You want to watch entertaining?

2523
02:26:34,020 --> 02:26:34,760
Ian Carroll.

2524
02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:35,640
Ian.

2525
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:36,620
I also think he's a prop.

2526
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:37,360
I think he's...

2527
02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:38,040
Oh, yeah.

2528
02:26:38,140 --> 02:26:38,420
Yeah.

2529
02:26:38,660 --> 02:26:40,220
Oh, yeah, but he's funny.

2530
02:26:40,520 --> 02:26:41,800
He was on, I think, Rogan.

2531
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:46,280
You know, his dad is mentioned in one of the Manson books from the Valley.

2532
02:26:46,880 --> 02:26:47,280
Really?

2533
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:48,160
Yeah.

2534
02:26:48,340 --> 02:26:50,680
His dad was a player in...

2535
02:26:50,680 --> 02:26:53,140
You mean Weird Scenes in the Canyon?

2536
02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:53,860
You know that book?

2537
02:26:53,860 --> 02:26:54,180
Yes.

2538
02:26:54,320 --> 02:26:56,100
His dad is mentioned on, like, page eight.

2539
02:26:56,380 --> 02:26:57,800
Of Weird Scenes in the Canyon?

2540
02:26:57,920 --> 02:26:58,540
Yeah, yeah.

2541
02:26:58,540 --> 02:27:02,060
So there's a clip when he's on Rogan and he's like, oh, someone's like, did you read that book?

2542
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:03,100
He's like, oh, yeah, I know that book.

2543
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:04,100
My dad's on page eight.

2544
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:07,140
Oh, that's interesting.

2545
02:27:07,140 --> 02:27:08,960
His dad was an activist, I think.

2546
02:27:09,980 --> 02:27:12,920
Well, so the people haven't read Weird Scenes in the Canyon.

2547
02:27:12,920 --> 02:27:20,920
This is a book about how all the famous rock stars who were in Laurel Canyon were all deep state derived kids.

2548
02:27:21,840 --> 02:27:22,400
I think it still goes on.

2549
02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:23,000
We're not talking.

2550
02:27:23,300 --> 02:27:25,680
Well, Eddie Vedder shows up out of nowhere.

2551
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:27,220
Not Eddie Vedder.

2552
02:27:27,220 --> 02:27:29,280
Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young.

2553
02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:31,440
I think Manson was writing all their music.

2554
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:32,320
Manson.

2555
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:33,780
Alluded to this.

2556
02:27:34,120 --> 02:27:39,320
And Frank Zappa, who ended up working for the BIS or somebody, right?

2557
02:27:39,540 --> 02:27:41,260
I mean, the whole thing's crazy.

2558
02:27:41,820 --> 02:27:41,980
Yeah.

2559
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:43,560
And then what do I find out?

2560
02:27:44,180 --> 02:27:47,940
I find out that my wife lived in Laurel Canyon from 77 to 79.

2561
02:27:49,300 --> 02:27:51,360
So as I said on a podcast, I said,

2562
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:56,100
so I'm sitting there wondering if I'm married to someone who's completely nuts.

2563
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:58,980
and then I said, which is exactly

2564
02:27:58,980 --> 02:28:00,480
what my wife has been thinking.

2565
02:28:02,820 --> 02:28:05,300
I don't think my wife is a weird scene

2566
02:28:05,300 --> 02:28:05,940
from Laurel Canyon.

2567
02:28:06,020 --> 02:28:06,940
I think she was too late.

2568
02:28:07,140 --> 02:28:08,580
I think the shit had kind of died down.

2569
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:12,180
As always, Dave, this has been tremendous.

2570
02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:13,160
I want to show you,

2571
02:28:13,400 --> 02:28:15,640
I took my son fishing this summer.

2572
02:28:15,820 --> 02:28:16,720
We went down to the Keys.

2573
02:28:17,040 --> 02:28:18,100
So you did go fishing.

2574
02:28:18,380 --> 02:28:19,920
So yeah, we go and I'm sitting there hoping,

2575
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:21,380
I hope he hates this.

2576
02:28:21,540 --> 02:28:22,180
I hope he hates it.

2577
02:28:22,180 --> 02:28:23,900
Because my dad dragged me fishing

2578
02:28:23,900 --> 02:28:25,560
and I never wanted to go.

2579
02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:27,580
I think that's why I didn't fish as an adult.

2580
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:31,120
I spent too many hours in a boat.

2581
02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:33,920
A little kid in a boat is claustrophobic.

2582
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:37,180
Yeah, when you get on the boat, they tell you, first thing, there's no bathroom on the boat.

2583
02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:38,540
They tell you there's no rules.

2584
02:28:38,620 --> 02:28:40,640
The moment I put my feet up, the guy's yelling at me.

2585
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:43,080
There's no rules, I told you, but you can't put your feet here.

2586
02:28:44,520 --> 02:28:45,380
They're yelling at you.

2587
02:28:45,380 --> 02:28:50,800
I was a high-energy kid, and just sitting in a boat for eight hours is just...

2588
02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:51,040
That's tough.

2589
02:28:51,260 --> 02:28:52,920
My son adores it.

2590
02:28:53,380 --> 02:28:55,080
So we went back a couple times.

2591
02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:59,140
Here's me catching a 720-pound bull shark.

2592
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:03,020
I've only saltwater fished once.

2593
02:29:03,260 --> 02:29:04,080
That's all I do.

2594
02:29:05,500 --> 02:29:06,560
Where do you live again?

2595
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:07,120
Where do you live?

2596
02:29:07,380 --> 02:29:10,000
We're in Florida now, but I grew up on Long Island in New York.

2597
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:11,480
Where on Long Island?

2598
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:13,460
Like by Jones Beach.

2599
02:29:14,920 --> 02:29:19,460
My grandmother was in Waynesket, which is near East Hampton.

2600
02:29:19,940 --> 02:29:20,440
Yeah, yeah.

2601
02:29:20,680 --> 02:29:22,600
I mean, that's about an hour past me.

2602
02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:24,900
But that was before the Big Shot showed up.

2603
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:26,720
So it was just potato fields.

2604
02:29:26,920 --> 02:29:29,000
Yeah, beautiful beaches and great fishing.

2605
02:29:29,480 --> 02:29:31,480
The Great South Bay, and then you can get out to the ocean.

2606
02:29:31,620 --> 02:29:33,380
My dad was a flounder and fluke fisherman.

2607
02:29:34,280 --> 02:29:35,720
He was known all over Long Island.

2608
02:29:35,860 --> 02:29:38,700
He never owned a boat because he never wanted all the work.

2609
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:40,420
You know, he'd just go on the commercial boats.

2610
02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:42,340
But all the captains knew him.

2611
02:29:42,560 --> 02:29:44,120
Did you wear Fugazi for me?

2612
02:29:46,260 --> 02:29:47,760
Everything's fake these days, man.

2613
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:48,500
I know.

2614
02:29:48,620 --> 02:29:48,980
Everything.

2615
02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:49,720
Everything with Bitcoin.

2616
02:29:50,660 --> 02:29:52,620
You have to enjoy that.

2617
02:29:52,620 --> 02:29:58,660
And I do enjoy watching the crazy, but it has gotten tougher.

2618
02:29:59,500 --> 02:30:00,400
It has gotten tougher.

2619
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:01,500
It used to be.

2620
02:30:01,820 --> 02:30:04,280
And part of the reason is because you can't make sense of it now.

2621
02:30:04,500 --> 02:30:06,040
I used to think I could make sense of it.

2622
02:30:06,400 --> 02:30:06,520
Right.

2623
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:08,400
You used to think you wouldn't get somewhere.

2624
02:30:09,220 --> 02:30:09,400
Yeah.

2625
02:30:09,780 --> 02:30:09,920
Yeah.

2626
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:11,920
Man, have an aha moment.

2627
02:30:12,320 --> 02:30:13,420
At least about one thing.

2628
02:30:14,140 --> 02:30:17,560
I just got to buy some Bitcoin and go to Florida and fish.

2629
02:30:17,800 --> 02:30:18,320
Check out.

2630
02:30:18,420 --> 02:30:18,620
Yeah.

2631
02:30:18,780 --> 02:30:19,340
Come to Florida.

2632
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:20,720
The fishing was epic.

2633
02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:24,720
We caught such a variety of fish down in the Keys.

2634
02:30:24,880 --> 02:30:25,540
It was wild.

2635
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:33,460
So we went, the most memorable day of fishing in my life was the most memorable weekend.

2636
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:34,680
We went two and a half days.

2637
02:30:34,780 --> 02:30:35,660
We were on the St. Lawrence.

2638
02:30:35,780 --> 02:30:39,560
We caught 247 bass between one and two and a half pounds.

2639
02:30:39,800 --> 02:30:40,540
Here's my back.

2640
02:30:40,540 --> 02:30:41,020
You caught.

2641
02:30:42,340 --> 02:30:43,020
Oh, wow.

2642
02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:43,860
Look at that.

2643
02:30:44,540 --> 02:30:45,500
Look at that.

2644
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:46,120
Okay.

2645
02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:48,320
You're in a different category.

2646
02:30:48,320 --> 02:30:49,440
It was a.

2647
02:30:49,740 --> 02:30:50,320
Wow.

2648
02:30:50,720 --> 02:30:51,960
That's serious fishing.

2649
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:53,160
Yeah, nice snapper.

2650
02:30:54,220 --> 02:30:54,660
Yeah.

2651
02:30:55,060 --> 02:30:55,820
That was great.

2652
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:58,480
Do you use a guide or no?

2653
02:30:58,940 --> 02:31:00,480
So this was, yeah, we used a guide.

2654
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:05,740
And he, you know, it was, you have a guide.

2655
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:09,940
So he's got three different kinds of, like I grew up on Long Island, just bottom fishing.

2656
02:31:10,300 --> 02:31:11,740
We'd go for one kind of fish at once.

2657
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:12,760
Right.

2658
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:16,740
We'd go for like 19 different kinds of fish here, top, bottom, middle.

2659
02:31:17,140 --> 02:31:18,840
So you just never know what's on the hook.

2660
02:31:18,980 --> 02:31:19,180
Right.

2661
02:31:19,180 --> 02:31:23,600
I grew up where you hold the rod the whole time and you're checking.

2662
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:25,280
This is more like rods are out.

2663
02:31:25,860 --> 02:31:26,640
You see what runs.

2664
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:28,640
It's pandemonium.

2665
02:31:28,880 --> 02:31:30,540
By the time I got to the rod, he'd always be like,

2666
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:32,140
you got here nine seconds too late.

2667
02:31:32,200 --> 02:31:33,880
We just lost the biggest fish ever.

2668
02:31:36,140 --> 02:31:37,920
Totally razzing me the whole time.

2669
02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:41,020
I was a shoreline caster.

2670
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:44,060
We'd be in the boat and I would cast the shoreline.

2671
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:49,140
My dad, interesting enough, we was on a lake with like 50 guides.

2672
02:31:49,180 --> 02:31:50,040
So it's a bass lake.

2673
02:31:50,780 --> 02:31:51,960
And it was largemouth.

2674
02:31:52,320 --> 02:31:54,660
Every once in a while, you'd pick up a smallmouth.

2675
02:31:54,760 --> 02:31:55,540
It would look weird.

2676
02:31:55,840 --> 02:31:57,620
It would seem out of place.

2677
02:31:58,120 --> 02:32:00,680
My dad had a depthfinder when no one else had one.

2678
02:32:01,460 --> 02:32:02,880
And the guides used to razz them.

2679
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:03,940
Oh, yeah, that's it.

2680
02:32:03,980 --> 02:32:05,080
He's like with a depthfinder.

2681
02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:08,560
He found deepwater shoals that they didn't know about.

2682
02:32:08,560 --> 02:32:14,440
And he was pulling huge smallmouth off them that no one had ever fished.

2683
02:32:14,980 --> 02:32:17,040
They were in the middle of open water in this lake.

2684
02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:21,180
It's not a huge it's like a 38 mile length, but it's not unimaginably huge.

2685
02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:26,740
But he was bringing stringers of four pound smallmouth, which is a big smallmouth bass.

2686
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:31,240
And and the guides also all bought depth funders and shit.

2687
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,580
He was knocking it out of the park.

2688
02:32:34,700 --> 02:32:36,000
He was a legend by then.

2689
02:32:36,280 --> 02:32:37,580
Well, technology helps.

2690
02:32:38,900 --> 02:32:40,360
Dave, as always, has been so dope.

2691
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:41,880
Have a great night, Dave.

2692
02:32:42,300 --> 02:32:43,600
OK, adios.

2693
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:46,760
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2694
02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:51,580
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2695
02:32:51,580 --> 02:32:53,360
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2697
02:32:55,140 --> 02:32:59,360
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2698
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02:33:03,600 --> 02:33:04,100
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2701
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