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So I think a lot of people are always curious, how do I stack up against other Bitcoin holders?

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What do I need to have to be like in that elite tier of hodlers?

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And apparently it's just a little over a quarter of a Bitcoin.

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I would say we need to decentralize everything.

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We need to decentralize our money, which is Bitcoin, our social media and communications, which is Noster and Primal.

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I don't like stable coins. I think that they are the antithesis of freedom.

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They're really everything that we stand to try to fix.

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There's only one king, folks. It's Bitcoin in self-custody. So again, stop wasting energy.

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There is no get-rich-quick schemes. This is all counterparty risk.

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If there's a human being behind it, it's going to zero.

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roll hey everyone welcome to another episode of bitcoin banter i have we have a four-way chat

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today so adam has joined us tony and greer are here as always guys we're gonna jump right into

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the first bit of news so this was from bitcoin archive it says fact owning 0.28 bitcoin puts you

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in the top 1% of Bitcoin holders.

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So I think a lot of people are always curious,

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how do I stack up against other Bitcoin holders?

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What do I need to have to be

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like in that elite tier of hodlers?

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And apparently it's just a little over

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a quarter of a Bitcoin.

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Tony, I'm gonna let you take this one first.

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What does this news mean for the average club

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who's out there staying humble and stacking sats?

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Yeah, man, stop counting in dollar signs.

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I mean, you're trying to collect

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the world's scarcest asset.

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This thing has a purchasing power

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that no living soul has seen or knows

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or can guess, you know, because we've never lived in that world before.

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So small numbers have, you know, ginormous purchasing power.

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That's the way you should be looking at this.

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And the only attention you should be placing on these numbers

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is making sure that today you have a bit more than yesterday

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and you continue, you know, down that trajectory.

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Stop, like, there's no sense doing, you know, too many calculations.

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Just make sure you have more than yesterday

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and you're definitely on the right path.

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yeah i think it's fun to to understand like what people have but also it just doesn't matter i think

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stay humble stack sats is really the theme uh greer what would you say yeah you might not be

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able to be like jeff bezos or elon musk but you know with 27 grand saved in bitcoin uh you're in

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the top one percent and from there you know it looks like we might have a long road uh to keep

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stacking before it's completely gone personally i think we're looking at somewhere like 2028 or

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2029 when all the big players have scooped up all the available Bitcoin. So I would say stay focused.

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This is about getting incremental fractions of a Bitcoin as often as possible. And being in the top

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1% is great. But even the top 10%, you know, when you think about it, almost no one has Bitcoin.

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There are 150 million people that have it out of 8 billion. So, you know, you might not like

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hearing you early, but the truth is that we're all very early. 100%. Adam, anything to add?

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We all like to compare ourselves to other people. And like you said, Michael, this is, you know,

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kind of fun just to see. I don't think that's necessarily what's most important. I think what

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is most important is that you're saving in a better money and over time you're purchasing

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power and your freedom is going up. Just take a look at an average grocery cart today and look at

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in 10 years, you're guaranteed to be able to fill that grocery card up less with fiat money

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or fiat currency rather. With Bitcoin, you actually have a very solid chance of making

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that grocery card a lot more valuable. That's a great way of framing it. I love that. Those

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infographics are always eye-opening, I think, for the normies out there who have yet to get into

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Bitcoin. So, okay, guys, we've had a crazy start to this year. The last week has been particularly

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nuts. The other day, we had Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, U.S. Cellular and Xfinity outages across the U.S.

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It looked like about, you know, half of the country, a third of the country were affected

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or impacted to some extent. Tony, I'm going to let you take this one first, because you've been

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talking about these sort of black swan, you know, is this a planned event? Is this just some sort of

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a hack? What is your analysis of the situation? Well, superficially, it looks like just like

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another oops, you know, the network went down for whatever reason and that they're going to fix it.

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But if you've been following, you know, the news and you want to put on your tinfoil hat,

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you can also look at this in a way that this is like a beta test, a testing ground for what to do,

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you know, when things get out of control, how to control the people by cutting off all forms of

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communication. There was another website that, you know, you brought up earlier before we got on

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this that shows you countries around the world where the internet outages have started to increase.

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And coincidentally, they always seem to happen when there are movements against government

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narratives. And so one of the best ways, you know, governments have to sort of like flip the sides to

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their advantage is to cut off the internet. And so I wouldn't look at this as just like an oops,

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fluke of nature type of event, I would keep a close eye on this because I expect these things

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to increase as things continue getting worse. And again, cutting off the forms of communication

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is usually the first line of attack that these people go for.

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So this website you referenced here is accessnow.org. And you can see it actually shows you the causes

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of each internet outage from communal violence to conflict to elections and so on and so forth.

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There are protests, political instability on here. So you can actually filter and see like,

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why did these things happen? And many of them do happen right around an election, for example.

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communications or anything for any reason, they can do it. And we're seeing more and more of that

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you know, happens sometimes?

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I think there is an aspect of,

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for any of the Ayn Rand fans out there,

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you know, who is John Galt?

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due to centralization and central planning.

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But I also think there is some merit to the theories about population control.

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So it could be, you know, countries essentially doing it to themselves.

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Maybe they're doing it to influence some type of political opposition or they're doing it as some form of planning strategically.

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But it also, I think, to a degree, I'm certain, you know, at least some of these bubbles on here are foreign attacks, too.

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So there's a lot of stuff that plays into it.

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But I think one thing is clear, and that is that this graph is going to continue to go up.

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Yeah, I think we're going to see a lot more of this.

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Greer, accident on purpose?

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Anything else you'd say?

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Yeah, I'll wear my tinfoil hat on this.

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I think a lot of this is intentional.

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I would say we need to decentralize everything.

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We need to decentralize our money, which is Bitcoin.

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Our social media and communications, which is Noster and Primal.

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And I think we need to decentralize our access to the Internet.

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You know, these things are too important for any government to control.

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Governments cannot be trusted no matter where you live.

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And I think this is what we should be working on.

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How do we decentralize and make the things that we need to use to live free from interference from somebody who might be more powerful?

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So to me, that's that's the answer here.

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It's it's more technology.

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I think Elon Musk and Starlink, if you look at what they tried to do in Iran, even those systems were jammed.

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But to his credit, he was working to restore access.

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But yeah, I think put your tinfoil hat on.

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It's time to find solutions because these systems are all critical to the human experience.

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All righty, guys.

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So Venezuela, this was actually from maybe a week ago, but this was sort of the bull case for Bitcoin.

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and something that not a lot of people are paying attention to.

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So Maduro had used Tether to move 80 of Venezuela oil revenue So tons of sanctions evaded And basically the U made a phone call Tether froze the wallet Tony I think you raised a good question

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How do they know?

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Like, are they KYC-ing themselves in some way?

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And why would a sovereign do that?

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But either way, I think there are ways that,

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certainly the CIA has resources to probably track down.

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Who's sending $100 million over Tether on Tron

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in one fell swoop?

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and then make a determination as to what wallets need to be frozen,

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or that they just sort of blanket freeze anything that looks suspicious

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because Tether is a centralized entity, has the ability to do that,

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and then they can go up and clean the collateral damage later.

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I'll let you take this one again first, but Tony, what do you think about this story?

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Yeah, man, this is a perfect story for all those naive folks

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that think that USDT is the holy grail of money.

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This is a central bank digital currency.

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And it's already being used as one because, you know, one phone call and Tether freezes, you know, hundreds of millions and billions of dollars in a second.

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So to answer your question about how do they know who the wallet belongs to?

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Well, the thing is, I don't think they have to because they can enact, you know, mandate a rule where any transaction above X amount, well, the user needs to identify themselves.

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Otherwise, they just won't process it.

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so whether that rule becomes $100 or $100,000, it doesn't really matter.

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The money, your USDT that you think you have in your non-custodial wallet,

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the one that you think, oh, well, I didn't provide any identification,

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so they won't know it's me.

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The thing is, right now, they don't care.

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They don't have to know it's you.

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They can just block any transaction, and the second you try to move it,

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then you're going to have to prove it's you.

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Otherwise, your USDT is just going to sit there on your phone staring right back at you completely useless.

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So again, anything centralized is going to get captured when the time is right.

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So all stable coins, no exceptions.

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These are not glory days.

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The only thing that's a glory day is the one that's outside the control of human beings.

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And there's only one.

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Again, Bitcoin in self-custody.

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So there's no need to waste time going left, right, searching all over the globe for a better alternative.

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There is none.

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So save your energy, focus on stacking sats, and learn how to live a life outside the system.

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Sovereignty prevails for all those that are still in favor of their freedom.

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I think everyone's been warned sufficiently.

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I think Greer and Adam, you guys are equally enthusiastic haters of stable coins.

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Greer, I'll let you take it first and then Adam chime in.

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What a grift.

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So in order to keep $150 billion of oil moving, Maduro buys Tether.

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Tether buys the equivalent amount in U.S. treasuries, freezes the account.

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So Tether gets to produce all of this government debt.

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the U.S. benefits really from the end of Maduro using Tether to to make these deals.

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And, you know, the U.S. gets gets all of this 150 billion dollars of treasuries.

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I mean, it's it's you're you're playing in a system where you can't win.

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You know, when you use Tether, when you use stable coins, somebody can stop you.

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And whether the merit is there, you know, maybe they should have stopped Maduro or didn't

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allow him.

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But, you know, the technology to to help him, you know, funnel this oil was created here.

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in the U S and bought with U S debt. So, uh, the whole thing to me is just, you know,

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throw it away. You know, this, the stable coins, the tethers, all of this crypto,

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it has no place. Uh, this is not what we want to see. And, you know, I, you know, the whole,

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the whole thing just stinks in my opinion. Adam, what you got?

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There aren't a lot of platforms and podcasts out there that are willing to say the things that

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have already been said. I think that that's, uh, worth mentioning. And it's, it's pretty clear

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who's sponsored by whom.

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Or maybe I think in a better way,

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I could say it's pretty clear that

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Tether's not sponsoring the Bitcoin way,

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at least not right now.

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And that's, I think, what it really comes down to

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is there's just a lot of incentive

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for venture capital firms

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and all of these private equity groups

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and startups that are essentially being funded

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one way or another directly or indirectly from Tether

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because it's a giant money machine

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and they got a lot of money to give out.

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And I can tell you as a founder,

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that money is, you know, it's...

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Enticing.

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It's enticing.

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That's a good way to put it.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, so, you know,

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Tether is always good at promoting

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and supporting Bitcoin companies,

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but it is a double-edged sword.

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And so you see, you know,

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obviously a lot of this doubles speak from Bitcoiners that are promoting stable coins.

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And I'll just be, you know, Frank, it's probably not a secret to you guys.

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I don't I don't like stable coins.

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I think that they are the antithesis of freedom.

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They are they're really everything that we we stand to try to fix with our money.

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And Tony said it.

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Tether is a CBDC.

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and anyone that argues against that, in my opinion, is paid off.

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Sure, you could argue it's technically a CBDC with an extra step,

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but effectively, you know, in the real world,

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the U.S. government, you can see this in practice,

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the U.S. government is essentially the one doing the bidding.

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So you can see all of this, all these seized and frozen funds on USDT

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at the will of the U.S. government.

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And in effect, just by corollary nature,

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Tether is a United States central bank digital currency.

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That's just a fact.

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Yeah, that's well said.

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If we ever start shilling Tether or any other stablecoin,

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call law enforcement Tony or I are tied up in a basement being tortured.

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Okay, we've got...

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basically don't put more than you're willing to lose in a stable coin i think that that would be

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like the best advice i i would give out prudent yes all righty guys so we have this uh crypto

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market structure legislation uh the clarity act brian armstrong of coinbase who we make fun of

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often here um he's come out uh he's he's not a fan and it sounded to me i this was a couple days

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ago, but I think basically they were either going to go vote on it or there was some big next step

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and they've delayed it since he came out. So keep in mind, as I like to reiterate as often as I can,

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the politicians are not there for you. They're there for the lobbyists. They're there for the

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people who are funding their operations, buying them nice meals, private jets, whatever the case

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may be. But he says that we'd rather have no bill than a bad bill. And my sense is Brian Armstrong

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might actually be onto something here. I think for the regulated Bitcoin entities and institutions,

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there is probably some value to having clarity.

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Generally, I just don't care about this stuff.

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I don't want government legislation around almost anything.

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Greer, do you want to maybe kind of give your understanding of the bill

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and then your analysis of it and then Tony and Adam can chime in?

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Yeah, I think if Brian doesn't like it,

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I would say that it's really, really, really bad.

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And Bitcoiners would absolutely hate it.

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So I don't look at his objection to this as like a glimmer of hope.

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And to be maybe a little off color and, you know, inarticulate, this is like a turd saying to vomit, you stake. And to me, what this was going to do was really just eliminate banks from the future of finance.

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If the future of finance is Bitcoin and then the ugly stepchild crypto that won't go away, this was going to allow crypto companies or actually keep them from offering a yield to their customers.

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So there was reports that something like $6 trillion might move from banks into stable coins and crypto.

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And because of the changes to this bill, that wouldn't be allowed.

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So ultimately, it was a way to protect the banking industry from the emergence of crypto.

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And I think that what Brian objecting to here He wants crypto to thrive The senators the politicians they want banking to thrive As a Bitcoiner you really want to see both of those houses fall down and watch Bitcoin

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emerge as the asset, as the money.

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And to me, this is one we have to watch.

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Is Washington going to get this right?

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Absolutely not.

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100% wrong.

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Tony, what would you add?

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I would add what I've been adding for the last three years, man, is that the central banks are never going to welcome competition. They're never going to play fair. These are the dirtiest people out there. And they're trying to protect their interests at the expense of everybody else.

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The thing is here, like we shouldn't care about these people or wait for their permission or wait for their blessing.

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There is an option now that completely obliterates them, like makes renders them completely irrelevant.

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Bitcoin in self-custody, it is money in and of itself.

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It's an ecosystem being built.

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You know, like the Internet in its infancy, we are witnessing Bitcoin in its infancy.

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And that ecosystem is going to eclipse the Internet and become the ninth or tenth wonder of the world.

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if you want to just understand how big this is.

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So wasting time on this, to me,

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it's just that, wasting time.

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People invested in freedom

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should just focus on perfecting the tools

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in a way where nothing in this universe

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can stop their adoption

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or allow anyone to co-opt or destroy

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these tools that are available for 8.3 billion people.

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So like you said, Greer,

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if Brian Armstrong doesn't like it,

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This must be beyond hell in the way it was framed.

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So I guess there is, you know, some shred of a good soul in this guy.

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So am I missing something, though?

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So I understand it would be devastating to the bank's balance sheets and like their financial

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projections if they had to provide that yield back to their customers.

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But it seems like from a competitive perspective, it would make sense for them to begin doing

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that, even if slowly to prevent, you know, what'd you say, Greer, like six trillion from leaving the,

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which would be probably catastrophic for the banking industry. It seems like they could just

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like concede like, Hey, we can't hold this off forever. And even like, not everyone is going to

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be subject to the laws of the U S because you're going to have people do these things in other

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jurisdictions. Like, I guess it becomes more complicated if you're in a foreign jurisdiction

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and you're trying to buy us treasuries and all of that, but it seems like they could compete.

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and even like just dip their toes into competing,

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acknowledge they're going to lose some revenue because of that,

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but at least they're not going to risk wiping out the financial system.

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I don't know. Adam, do you have any thoughts on that?

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Yeah. First of all, I'll just say,

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I think that that was a report from Bank of America.

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Yeah, it said $6 trillion.

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That's the figure going basically from banks to stable coins.

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And I think this is maybe two things.

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one it's a delay and two it's a wake-up call for the banking industry and I think that's really

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kind of the the signal here is I mean everybody's going to have to adopt Bitcoin even the banks

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fortunately you know at some point we the you know us on this call and perhaps a lot of people

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listening we won't need them but the banks are probably still going to be around for a very long

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time. And the only way that they can possibly stay relevant is by adopting Bitcoin. It's the banks,

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the governments, it's everything that Bitcoin, you know, essentially is able to replace. They

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still need Bitcoin too. And they're, and they're going to try to keep up as, as best as they can.

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They're going to be behind and they're going to be fighting tooth and nail all along the way.

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But they will be adopting Bitcoin. And I think what this is doing is giving them a little bit of

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time to get some Bitcoin, you know, native Bitcoin or even maybe some Bitcoin backed products,

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backing some of their own consumer facing products into their mix. And that's that's kind of my my

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tinfoil hat theory on that. You can see, you know, Michael Saylor's been doing a parade to all the

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major banks. And, you know, I'm not necessarily advocating for the whole fiat game, but he's

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he's really trying to sell his products to the banks right now.

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And like I said, I think that this bill was a wake-up call to the banking industry.

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And you see that from this report from Bank of America.

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But here's what really matters.

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Bitcoin does not care about regulation.

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Regulation is not the factor that determines Bitcoin's success.

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Crypto, on the other hand, does.

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Crypto needs regulation to flourish.

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Bitcoin doesn't.

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So this, in my opinion, it's not a bad thing for Bitcoin that this bill is delayed or that it hasn't been passed or signed into law.

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If you're a Bitcoin maximalist, this does not matter. One iota.

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That was an unfortunate reference there since that's the name of an old cryptocurrency. My apologies.

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But my point is, yeah, this is actually probably bad for crypto because crypto really needs the clear regulation in order to say, look, we're not a scam because the U.S. government says so.

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Imagine that being what you have to stand on is the U.S. government saying you're not a scam.

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All righty. This is a good one. Adam, I'm going to bounce this right back to you.

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So selling pressure from OG Bitcoin holders has substantially decreased, signaling a potential end of the distribution phase.

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we've seen the price pump adam without you and your account on x i wouldn't even know that

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but i see uh see you sharing what's happening from time to time so we're 95 000 we were you know what

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were we what 80s high 70s i don't know just like a couple months ago yeah um so do you think this

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is like the spring's been coiled and it's we're ready to pop now that all the ogs are done selling

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i think that human psychology is consistent uh over time and space that's what i believe

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And I think that there is a lot more that plays into that than people, you know, average

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everyday people and even the markets and Wall Street gives that credit for.

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And so I think that, you know, no matter who you are, for the most part, you know, you

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take enough people, a big enough group of people, you know, you're going to get a lot

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of OGs that are going to, you know, want to essentially sell their Bitcoin, right?

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Or, quote unquote, de-risk.

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You know, you think about what this chart is actually referencing here.

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I guess this is over five years.

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I don't know if I'd necessarily call a five-year holder an OG, but, you know, Bitcoin was a lot.

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I would, you know, definitely say Bitcoin was more risky five years ago.

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Bitcoin has become significantly de-risked as it progresses, you know, every day.

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so you know this is you know just just just the fact that the longer it goes the more it proves

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itself and you know the network but it also becomes more integrated into our world and

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there's more bitcoiners today than there were yesterday and so i think that's really really

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big part of it is when when a lot of these people bought you know you look at people who bought a

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ton of money, people who are able to move the markets a lot. These are probably big, you know,

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maybe institutions or very wealthy individuals that were taking a little bit of a gamble in their

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eyes five years ago. And they're not, you know, the people selling, obviously they're the lettuce

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hands. They're not here for the long run. They're what I call the tourists and they got their return.

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And so they're just, they're taking their victory lap. I think that's a big part of it, but

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that as we can see from this graph here, that can't last forever.

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And so I think, again, that's where the human psychology comes in.

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And you pair that up with the, you know,

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absolutely predictable distribution schedule of Bitcoin.

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You end up with number go up forever, Laura.

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Tony, are you done selling your Bitcoin?

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Man, this is great news for me.

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I mean, this is just a great mechanism for Bitcoin to, you know, get widespread, you know, to go far and wide and reach more and more folks.

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It's going to continue to happen.

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Bitcoin doesn care who holds it and what they do with it So if these folks are getting rid of it for whatever reason that fine I mean Bitcoin doesn cease to do what it due Its value proposition doesn cease to exist because some person from 16 years ago decided to get rid of it

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They have their reasons, whatever the case may be, so be it, right?

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But to me, this means that, you know, it is becoming more integrated into everyday life.

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And, you know, individuals that have never dreamt of an opportunity to get Bitcoin.

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Well, with these moves, they just might.

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And as more time progresses, I think we're going to start seeing more redistribution of Bitcoin.

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I don't think we'll hear as many stories of big OG selling.

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Maybe we might, but at some point, that's also going to disappear.

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Yeah. Greer, any comments?

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Yeah, Bitcoin distribution.

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You know, we're seeing people with thousands of Bitcoin sell.

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In a few years, we'll see people with hundreds of Bitcoin sell and then tens of Bitcoin and then a single Bitcoin eventually.

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And I think that it's a fractal, you know, and we're just moving through the fractal.

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So I think for the individual, it's be part of the Bitcoin network.

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You know, and that's what I would say.

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And the distribution from these large entities being fractionalized into thousands and hopefully millions of people, that's a good thing.

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I agree.

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All righty, guys, we had 11.6 million cryptocurrencies die in 2025.

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Yet one still stands at the top of both dominance and market cap since the birth of crypto, and that is Bitcoin.

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So I remember when I first got into this space, they were like, oh, there's like 10,000 cryptocurrencies.

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I guess what Solana's made it really easy for like random people to just like spin up their own token.

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I assume all that's included.

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Tony, why don't you take this one?

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I think this is exciting news.

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Of course, man.

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Somebody finally flushed the toilet and got rid of all this garbage.

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We've been saying all altcoins are going to zero.

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And, you know, this was just a matter of time when we see a chart like this.

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There's only one king, folks.

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It's Bitcoin in self-custody.

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So, again, stop wasting energy on this nonsense.

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There is no get rich quick schemes.

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This is all counterparty risk.

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There's a human being behind it.

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It's going to zero.

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Unfortunately, we've got a few more turds we still need to flush out and they're hanging to the side of the toilet bowl.

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Greer, do you want to take this one?

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Yeah, I think in a world of deception that we're living in where, you know, there's so many ways to be tricked or deceived or believe something that's not true.

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You know, Bitcoin is the opposite of all that.

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It's one of the only things you can know that you can prove that you can hold that you can call your own.

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So I think the lesson is, you know, when you don't quite know everything, go with the crowd and the crowd is obviously behind Bitcoin.

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And it's only a matter of time before it's, you know, the final cryptographically secured currency.

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Well said, Adam, I'm going to skip you on that because I want you to comment on this next one before we wrap up here.

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So as a Bitcoin entrepreneur, someone who owns a wallet company, so this French supermarket Carrefour offers a 20% discount now on all purchases paid in Bitcoin.

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Tony was talking about he spent some time in France.

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It's a massive chain.

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This is what we love to talk about.

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Seeing adoption increase, seeing the big players who are doing it the way we want to see them do it.

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They're just accepting Bitcoin.

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They're offering incentives for you to pay in Bitcoin.

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What do you think about this sort of news?

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Yeah, it goes back to what I was saying earlier. Everybody's going to adopt Bitcoin sooner or later. I think this is just somebody who's figured it out and they have realized that Bitcoin, you know, their Bitcoin audience is typically, you know, they're more loyal. They're returned customers.

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using Bitcoin and transacting in Bitcoin is typically cheaper, easier, and cuts out a lot

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of middlemen. I'm not sure that it saves them 20% in processing fees. So they may be using this as

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a form of marketing, of course, but it does allow them to acquire Bitcoin in the most direct fashion.

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So as a retailer, grocery store, supermarket chain, whatever these folks are, I'm not from France,

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but I think that you're going to start to see more and more of this.

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And one of the things that I saw recently,

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I think it was BTC Sessions that pointed this out.

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They were doing some testing on the psychology of whether or not

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it's more effective to add a premium for fiat transactions

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or a discount for Bitcoin transactions.

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I don't think there was a resolution to that specific thread

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that I was reading.

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It was like a week ago,

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But there might be some more info over on his Twitter page on that.

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Great. Tony, I'm going to let you round this out. So Greer, why don't you give your thoughts first on this?

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Yeah, I mean, I think this is great. And like Adam said, I think the incentives are driving this.

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And would you want to buy something for a discounted Bitcoin? The answer is yes, absolutely yes.

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So I think this is a great win for the retailer.

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Imagine if they don't have to sell the Bitcoin that they take for payment.

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It makes their margins look incredibly healthy when you zoom out six months to a year.

430
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So Bitcoin will be the fuel that runs their business.

431
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I think we'll see more people figure this out.

432
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And I think with the adoption of Square and unlocking Bitcoin payments, this is a win

433
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for the mom and pops for the boutique restaurants and coffee shops.

434
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So they'll see what Bitcoin provides.

435
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And it's just a matter of time before this catches on everywhere.

436
00:31:28,831 --> 00:31:31,651
All righty, Tony, bring us on.

437
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Very smart business decision from whoever's running the show over there.

438
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They're essentially dropping the European shit coin and adopting real money.

439
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And so whatever discount they give here, that's like nothing.

440
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They'll make it up with Bitcoin's appreciation in no time.

441
00:31:47,571 --> 00:31:53,331
So when you have huge chains like this starting to make moves towards Bitcoin,

442
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these are like headlines you really need to pay attention to

443
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because these guys have a lot on the line.

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And if, you know, they like,

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they see where the puck is going

446
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and if they're already moving in that direction,

447
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any smaller business should be sprinting right behind.

448
00:32:08,431 --> 00:32:09,571
Yes, well said.

449
00:32:09,971 --> 00:32:11,471
Guys, thank you for joining, Adam.

450
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Thanks for hopping on with us.

451
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:13,891
Why don't you tell people about MANA?

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Anything else you want to share?

453
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Where to follow you?

454
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Yeah, well, especially if you're in France

455
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and you want to participate

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in this awesome discount program at Carrefour

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and you need a wallet to spend some Bitcoin with,

458
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Mana is a great self-custodial option.

459
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It's a website's manabitcoin.com.

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We're also on X at manabitcoin.

461
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And you can find me at Adam Semeca

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if you're curious and following my antics.

463
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Absolutely.

464
00:32:40,891 --> 00:32:41,531
All righty, guys.

465
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Thank you again for being here.

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For everyone who tuned in,

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stick around for another minute.

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Gents, we'll catch up again soon.

474
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Thank you.

475
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Thank you, guys.

476
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Thanks, guys.

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