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I worked with a number of people in DC in the intelligence realm who wouldn't have kids.

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You know, no, I'm not going to have kids because I'm going to continue my career

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and children would be too much leverage.

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I mean, that is like so common.

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This is how they work.

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There is no line that won't be crossed, right?

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The idea that someone's significant other might get murdered sounds incomprehensible.

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Not only is that possible, it is probable.

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It is extremely likely that someone as close to the absolute truth, someone with the amount of access that he had with his research and his role in Google, all of that, after 20 years watching all of this shit and what they do, politicians being pedophiles, it's because they get elevated.

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They take people that are corruptible, they corrupt them, and then they elevate them so that they can be controlled.

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These are not wild theories.

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There's just no doubt.

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I don't need any evidence to know this is how it all works.

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I mean, yeah, I mean, there wouldn't be TV shows about this kind of stuff if it didn't

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fucking happen.

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Like, it just makes me so angry.

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There is no accountability.

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Nobody's accountable for anything at this point in this Fiat empire.

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And that eventually creates ruin.

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Everything's in ruin.

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Like, nothing is good anymore.

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There's so much shit that's happening, and it's so obvious to me and to a lot of people

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but luckily I know because of Bitcoin.

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It's just all so dumb.

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The only reason that people in the United States

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don't understand Bitcoin is because they're too ignorant

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to think that the dollar could ever fail.

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Yeah, just like they would never lock us in our homes.

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You know, all fiat currencies eventually fail.

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You know, if you don't think that that can happen to the dollar,

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you're probably the same person that was saying,

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yeah, they'll never lock us in our houses in 2020

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and look what they did.

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These are the things I'm pissed off about, right?

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Like, why are those people not deported?

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Why are those programs not shut down?

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Like, what I want is for Trump to be half as f***ing ferocious as they claim that he is.

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He's not.

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Also, fire Pam Bondi.

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Down the rabbit hole.

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Down.

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Cypherpunk.

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Rabbit.

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Today's guest is Michelle Weakley, director of Product at White Federal.

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But that title doesn't tell you the real story.

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Michelle is a former insider in the shadowy world of foreign direct investment, who blew the whistle on the global corruption she witnessed firsthand.

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She has toured the empty ghost cities of China, watched data be fabricated to suit government narratives, and escaped the belly of the beast to build the rails for a Bitcoin standard.

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From fighting the war on cash to calling for the balkanization of the United States, she is not afraid to say the quiet part out loud.

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She is the ultimate red pill.

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Welcome, Michelle.

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Great to be here.

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Hey, that's a good intro.

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I felt so, too.

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I added a line or two.

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You guys are good at this.

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Yeah, we work together and we collab a little bit.

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And then I just kind of write in a little stuff that I like.

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No, it's always good to be here with you guys, though.

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So before we went live, we were talking at a really interesting topic.

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And it was like the death of fiat currencies throughout the world.

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I just read this interesting post here by Michael Rihani.

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He said, in just five years, Bitcoin is up 4.2x from 21k to 88k USD.

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If Lebanon had invested $10 billion in Bitcoin back then, it'd be worth $42 billion today.

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But holding Lebanese pounds, the LBP has lost over 98% of its value versus USD since the crisis began.

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The black market right now is $89,500 LBP per $1 versus the pre-crisis peg of $1,507 LBP per USD.

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10 billion USD equivalent in LBP from five years ago is now worth less than 0.17 billion in real

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purchasing power. That's a over a 240x difference. Choose your money wisely. It's kind of wild if

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you really think about it in some of these. I mean, most people here in the US don't even think

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about everything that's happening in the world at writ large, but it's kind of wild.

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Yeah. So I think, you know, we were talking about like the case for Bitcoin and how

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if you if you look at any of these other failed fiat currencies bitcoin becomes super obvious

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right and so the only bet that one would make against bitcoin would be that the dollar was not

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going to fail and i think it's just completely insane like we were we were laughing because what

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i said is like the only reason that people in the united states don't understand bitcoin is because

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they're too ignorant to think that the dollar could ever fail yeah and my my favorite response

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to that is just like yeah just like they would never lock us in our homes you know like like all

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fiat currencies eventually fail did you watch nick zabo's speech at uh i think it was lugano

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plan b did you ever i think it was at that conference i've seen that once i think you i

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think it was that conference i could have been another conference but he basically presented on

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this very topic talking about fiat currencies over time and what he showed a graph of like all of the

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the world reserve currencies and you basically showed that like it's not really you know a uh

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it's just an inevitability that eventually currencies will fail just what is your time

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frame right and you know yeah some of them could last for 100 years 200 years whatever it would be

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but you know eventually when he puts when he when he grabbed them all on the train and just

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you see it go for a period and then boom yeah boom and then boom and then boom i've seen that

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chart it's a great kind of wild yeah so the risk is non-zero the risk is actually you know 100%

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given enough time based on history, right? But what is the timeframe, right?

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Yeah. I mean, it could be another 20 or 30 years, but that's well within our lifetimes.

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You know what I mean? If you're having kids today, they're going to barely be out of high school

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in 20 years. It's not as far away as it seems. And it could happen quicker. I mean, they're going

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to print more money. I think there's a strong chance that the dollar hyperinflates. Another

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thing people think I'm crazy for but look at what happened in Venezuela look at the timeline on that

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I mean something's gonna happen another crazy like that's yeah look what's happening over there right

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now I mean they've I mean I think I saw today they were at like 6,000 inflation which is what

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they've been at forever we're at that Bitcoin conference a couple years ago where they had

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all the Venezuelan bolivars in the trash thing yeah that was in Miami I think it was like 2020

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2021 one of those years right um pretty wild yeah yeah and you know if you don't think that

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that can happen to the dollar, like, again, you're probably the same person that was saying,

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yeah, they'll never lock us in our houses in 2020. And look what they did. So just don't ever say

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that it couldn't happen here. Yeah. I mean, I think it's definitely not happening tomorrow.

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Right. I think it's a multi-decade, you know, half century type play here over time. But

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the dollar has already lost 99.9% of its value relative to Bitcoin. So obviously, based on

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underlying fundamentals, you and I, obviously, we've done our research. We both expect that to

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continue. So if you haven't done your research, do your research. Because these are fundamental

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attributes that are at play here, fundamental characteristics of money that you have to look

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at when you evaluate different monies. So that's my thought there. But yeah, I just wanted to,

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we were having a really good conversation about that. So I kind of wanted to talk about that a

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little bit just because so many people here in America just think from this first world viewpoint,

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when we've got literally fiat currencies failing all over the world constantly and billions of

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people on this planet don't have access to banking infrastructure. They don't have access to any kind

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of money they can really save in. Yeah. And you don't have to explain Bitcoin to those people,

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you know, people in Nigeria, Lebanon, like all of entire countries. Boom. You show them Bitcoin

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and they understand it. I think we have first world problems here in the United States and it

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makes it hard for people. You know, I think fiat currency honestly is my favorite place to start.

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It's not even understanding the fundamentals of Bitcoin. It's understanding the fundamentals of

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The fact that your dollars are a fiat currency is something I didn't know anything about until I got into Bitcoin.

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I kept hearing this like fiat, fiat.

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And I'm like, what the fuck does that even mean, right?

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It means your currency is controlled by the government.

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And then, of course, you get down the central bank rabbit hole and all these things.

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But I think understanding that is actually like exponentially more important than really understanding technically how Bitcoin works.

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Have you read Natalie Burnell's book yet?

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I haven't.

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I have a copy.

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I haven't read the whole thing yet.

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I'm diving into it because we're going to do a book series here soon after Bitcoin Day Naples.

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But she has a great quote that's at the beginning of the book.

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And it's like, you know, two fish are swimming along.

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And then an older fish comes by and he goes, hey, guys, how's the water?

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And two fish keep swimming and they look at each other and say, what the fuck is water?

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I mean, I'm embellishing a little bit.

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I've got enough bomb in there.

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But that's basically the gist of it.

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yeah so it's like this idea of like you don't even know you're living in this uh

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right aquarium i guess i like that a lot so it's a great quote so uh shout out to natalie on that

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one that was well placed yeah oh so what's on your mind you've uh you said you're very angry

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what's i'm so angry like i just i just everything is just such bullshit you know we have

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psyops everywhere we were talking before we started recording about how they're like not

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even pretending anymore. And I think that's brought me to a new level of radicalization.

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And also I'm like, I'm radicalized about the fact that there aren't more people that are more angry.

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Like there's just people wandering around like, oh, it's OK. You know, like it just makes me so

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angry. Like there's so much shit that's happening. And it's so obvious to to me and to a lot of

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people that luckily I know because of Bitcoin. But you see, you know, you just it's just all so

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dumb. Have you seen all the fiat fraud going on in like Minnesota? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like I'm

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going to start calling it fiat fraud. I love that. I'm going to use that. It is fiat fraud.

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I've talked about this because it can only happen in a few dollars. Right. Yeah. No,

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I talk about that a lot because I saw so much corruption. Right. And so it's true. Like that's

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one of the things that got me into bitcoin in the way that i am um but yeah no i mean this is these

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are the things i'm pissed off about right like why are those people not deported why are those

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programs not shut down like what i want is for trump to be half as fucking ferocious as they

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claim that he is yeah he's not also fire pam bondy like put matt gates inside this is he's he's playing

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inside the system he's not he's not like you know they call him hitler but he's not he's not we're

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like yo vanilla toast go do stuff right right and then at the same time you know then you have

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this apathy psyop of like oh haha don't you feel stupid for voting it's like no actually i don't

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because we don't live in communism yeah the other choice was so much worse right that's what i tell

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people it's like listen like you know you think you have all these choices like no you have a you

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have this pill and you have that pill yeah pick this pill is gonna fucking kill you and this pill

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is like you know slightly better than the status quo so it's like and it's directional you know

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what I mean? Like, no, it's not perfect. Like, no, like, yeah, if I could make the decisions,

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I would make a lot of different decisions. But if you move things directionally, and the other

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thing that I that really pisses me off about this, like, mocking of the, you know, system and stuff

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is, if you don't vote, oh, vote harder, like, okay, don't vote, and then be ruled by the fucking

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purple haired gun grabbing lunatics right because so long as we have some sort of system someone is

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in charge of the system and if you don't participate in any way in shaping how that looks and I get it's

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not perfect I get they're all coordinating behind the scenes but there is a little bit of fucking

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control by putting those people in like we could go and fire like all these fucking losers that are

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not doing anything in Congress, they could all actually be fired if people organized and went

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and voted in a way that was too big to rig the way that we saw happen with Trump in 2024. And

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that's not a perfect solution. But like if people got involved, I mean, we are here in the great

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state of Florida. And I mean, Florida, like, thank God for Florida, right? Because we'd be living in

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some democratic hellhole with a governor that again wants to grab your guns wants to lock you

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up during covid like don't tell me that it has no effect on your life because i'm so happy to be

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here in florida yeah like thank god for florida right and so it might not be the solution to all

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of the problems but it does have an effect on your life because i'm not ruled by some lunatic

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democrat i just i can't believe the breadth of incompetence from tim walls in minnesota and

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numbers they're saying now that it's happening in maine too and they're getting like all this

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covid money they printed is going back to somalia and stuff and these people i mean this is insane

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it really is what the fuck right right and and that guy could have been of this fraud that's been

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going on it's like i mean every day you uncover something new whether it's covid fraud now they're

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saying it's education now they're saying they're finding education fraud i don't think i've seen

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this just came out today i think linda mcmahon she said uh i think she's the education secretary

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or something. She basically said that

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there's all these ghost programs in Minnesota

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and kids are getting like, there's kids

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that don't exist. There's millions flowing.

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It's like, it's crazy.

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Well, Tim Waltz has been going

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to China for 30 years,

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right? So he learned from the best of them how

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to create these ghost programs.

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I'm not surprised at all. Fire him.

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I mean, this man was like steps away

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from being the VP of this country.

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that was crazy that somebody said that

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we won't be surprised. I think it was Geiger

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capital they said like we won't be surprised to see that'll be uncovered that china is pushing a

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lot of the dei stuff i saw that yeah isn't that wild to think about but it's just it would be a

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smart play by them to try to destabilize you know a pseudo rival nation right i attack them from the

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inside right um so i wouldn't be surprised at all and then you have all these marxist professors

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going there and doing all this stuff so right yeah it's definitely you know there's definitely

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a lot of smoke there for sure yeah no doubt just take minnesota send minnesota to canada

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we don't need them we'll trade them for alberta right like if you're not going to deport the

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somalis then we're going to trade you for can yeah it's just into canada it's insane i mean

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the the problem with all this immigration and again like i hear people like oh we've always

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had immigration america is a nation of immigrants and all this stuff it's like yes we are a nation

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of immigrants but we also didn't have a welfare state that we just handed out to new immigrants

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and we didn't pay for people to fly here and come here and give them a bunch of benefits and put them

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in a house on the people's the taxpayers that live here like their dime that is not how america was

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one. America was formed like, yeah, you figure out how to get on a boat and like live under the

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rafters for six months and eat some moldy bread. And then you show up and live in a closet for six

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months until you get a job and figure your shit out. Right. And assimilate. Right. Like America

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may have been built by immigrants, but they were immigrants that assimilated and want to to be

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American. Yeah. The Somalis, the people coming in from the cartels, those people clearly have no

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interest in assimilating. You're 100% American. So to me, like that's the line. Like if I,

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I mean there's a lot of lines that could be drawn

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but that I think is really

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and that's been the whole

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what is it the world health people

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World Economic Forum

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the whole thing about multiculturalism

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all this stuff

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it's like Canada has been

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look what's happening to Canada

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you come from a shitty place

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that you're leaving

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you don't want to be there anymore

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you keep some of your culture with your family

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and use like stuff, stuff that you like.

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You keep some of that stuff and you remember your heritage.

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But at the same time, this is America.

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You're going to come.

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This is your nation now.

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I'm sick of all these, you know, I'm a Somali American and I'm a Canadian American.

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I mean, like, I'm a, you know, all this stuff is like, no, you're either fucking American

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or you're not.

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No, you know, some of the most patriotic Americans I know are immigrants.

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I work with a handful of them at Federal who came from, you know, Leonard, who I know that,

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you know, he came from communist Germany.

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He is American.

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We have several developers from Venezuela.

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They are profoundly thankful to be American.

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You know, and yeah, assimilate.

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I think you hit the nail on the head.

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What's going on with Bite Federal?

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I think when me and Paul had an episode a while ago and he said that there was some big announcement coming up, I believe, that they couldn't announce.

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But like, so what's happened here?

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What's going on?

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There is a big announcement on the horizon.

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I can't say quite yet.

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We did have, we've got two pieces of news I can give you.

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So we do have a new wallet.

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So, you know, we have one of the largest ATM networks.

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So if you have cash and you want to buy Bitcoin, we've got you covered.

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But we do have a new like digital on ramp.

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So we now have a custodial and a non-custodial wallet, which I think is cool.

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And we also have a really cool deal that we announced with a company called BurrowPay.

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And we're going to be enabling Bitcoin and crypto gambling in Las Vegas.

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so next year i mean peak you know in some senses peak degeneracy but there's a market for it so

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we will build products las vegas is the place right so next year when we're all in vegas if

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you want to you know fund you're staying at caesar palace you want to fund your wallet with bitcoin

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we've got you covered when i'm there i like to gamble on my phone at the same time i'm gambling

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you are a true degenerate yeah no i love you for it um so we've got lots of cool stuff in the

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works and a big announcement probably early next year so i'll let you know when that happens no no

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hints no secrets no nothing no i i know you you know it's just it's um bitcoin company things

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it's good stuff i love to see it love to see it um what do you think about the samurai dev

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situation you know this play out i was really glad to see it across trump's radar the other day

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somebody in the White House. I think it might have been just yesterday.

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I mean, obviously, I think it's

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atrocious that they were charged

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at all. I think it's really disappointing

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that the charges...

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I think the charges were filed under the

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Biden regime, and then the case was...

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But I think it's in that corrupt New York district.

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It's in the southern district.

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District of New York. Yes.

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They're basically the mob there.

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It's unbelievable. And I wish that

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Trump would just take the court out.

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You know what I mean?

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Can they do that? I don't know.

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That's actually a good idea.

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I don't give a fuck.

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Just do it.

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I'm pretty sure he, I mean, because, wait.

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Wait, can you?

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I don't, I don't.

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Well, Paul, do me a favor.

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Look up the SDNY.

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Does that fall under the Department of Justice?

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Is that like within the executive branch?

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Because if it is, he probably could.

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But see.

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But if it's not, if it was under the judicial branch, I mean, he couldn't probably do it.

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Unless there was, you know, explicit powers to do that within the Constitution.

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Oh, yes.

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Ask under the DOJ.

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Let's make sure we follow.

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Under the executive branch, the DOJ executive branch.

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this is the problem on the right you're right you're right that they have to fight they want

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to be rule followers you're right you're right because because if you don't have the the rule

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of law i mean you basically break down into civil war but there is no rule of law like the rule of

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law is gone when you're going against communists you're right they don't care what the rule of

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laws that when it when it suits them when it suits them yes when it doesn't suit them when

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they have power it's it's hell no yes and i'm so tired of this like well we have to be better than

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then. No, if you're

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going to change your country. Check this shit out.

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You're right. Check this shit out. So it is part

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of the Department of General Executive Branch agency.

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So they could get rid of it. Yeah, that's what he

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should do. Just get rid of that whole fucking branch.

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So the U.S. Attorney for the SDNY is appointed by the

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President. So who did he appoint

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to lead the SDNY

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right now? I think they were appointed under

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Biden. But he should be able

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to appoint somebody now.

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But the Senate might have held up his.

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They were holding up all of his nominations and playing all

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these names so let's see you got absolutely no recess appointments this is uh it's such a racket

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nickname it the sovereign district of new york due to its aggressive pursuit of cases and relative

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autonomy yeah i mean so it's legally it remains structural legally supported to the doj so it's

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within the executive branch so yeah i mean abolish it so yeah so this is something definitely trump

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can rule on with the uh keon rodriguez uh samurai situation right so he can rule on it and he can

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also just abolish the court and hire them.

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I think that's what I would do. It's like a cesspool

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of corruption over there. It's the same court

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that went after him. They're all just trying to make a name for themselves.

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Yeah, they went after him. Just get rid of him.

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It's like the epitome of corruption.

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And they were trying to go after him. I don't know

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if that was the one that, or no, that was a civil

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one where they went after him for

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the mortgage situation from

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like 30 years ago where they tried to say he

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the bank gave him the loan. Yeah, a mortgage

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fraud. I don't know what that was too, but get rid

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of him. Get rid of him if you can.

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But, Paul, ask if he

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if he appointed somebody to lead that and then also ask if he can just decide to disband it because it might be who are you asking we asking whose authority do you need well the

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constitution ultimately that's how things are supposed to run we're supposed to have a constitution

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we're supposed to have a rule okay all right as long as it's constitution yeah i mean we you know

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like the constitution was based on the magna carta which limited the power of the king you know it's

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a whole there's a whole lot of history there so we try to play within the rules if we can you know

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I mean, that's what we should strive for, right?

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But I hear you.

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Ish.

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Ish, right?

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Like a little less rule following, a little more ruthlessness.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Let's see here.

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In November 2024, Jake Layton.

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Let's see here.

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So Senate Democratic leadership, Chuck Schumer, blocked the nomination via the blue slip process.

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Trump appointed Clayton as interim U.S. attorney.

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to continue serving until a Senate confirmed nominee is installed.

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So Jay Clayton still remains the attorney for the SDNY.

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So it follows the resignation of previous attorney Damian Williams,

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a Biden appointee.

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So Trump does have his guy there now,

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but it's not permanent because the Senate will not enact it.

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They won't do any of this confirmation.

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They won't confirm because of Chuck Schumer.

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but you know

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yeah I would just I would probably just disband

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it it just seems like such a

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a

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point of like maximum corruption

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it is it's really stuff

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you know it's a hotbed of corruption and just you know politically

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motivated waste of taxpayer dollars

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for nonsense bullshit

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you know absolutely

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I also saw today that they

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the FBI was like we don't have probable cause to go to

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Mar-a-Lago and do this raid and the DOJ

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under Biden was like we don't give a fuck

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we're just going to go for it. We don't care.

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Shoot to kill. That's what they were saying.

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It's crazy. It is crazy.

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And that really happened. That's what you're saying.

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These other motherfuckers are not following

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the rule of law. That's what we're up against.

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And, you know, I mean, I understand it's a

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fine line. You want to say, like, the Constitution

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is the line. That's fine. But

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constitutionally... Again, the people that did

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these things should suffer consequences.

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And again, I hope that

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there will be consequences. I hope that

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we do stay within the bounds

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of the law and the Constitution. And then the people that

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that went outside those bounds previously are punished and receive consequences.

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Now, a lot of people are saying, oh, there's no consequences yet.

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You know, there really hasn't been.

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There hasn't been.

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There fucking hasn't been.

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Not a Pam Bondi fan.

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So let's see how that plays out because we're, I believe, still year one of the presidency.

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It's wild, isn't it?

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Isn't it wild that it hasn't even been a year yet.

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So we're not even a year into the presidency.

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We have four years.

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Right.

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And people are giving up.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I would say give it a little bit more time.

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Some of these things need to cook.

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you have to really gather the evidence you have to gather the details and you know they did come

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out with a thing today about the mar-a-lago situation and the people who signed off on that

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you know who decided to violate the constitution with no probable cause and go try to do that

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political stuff i mean you do have to punish those people right absolutely as opposed to what like

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what kind of what you're saying which is like fuck it just go just go for it i'm saying like

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fuck it in the sense of like punish those people who did that thing so it doesn't happen again

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there's a whole game theoretical thing about this where it's like if you let one side weaponize the

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government against you and then you don't retaliate and respond right behind you know

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my thought is yes retaliate and respond but hold but it's by holding those people accountable

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that's kind of how i think it should be so it doesn't spiral out of control when the pendulum

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comes back and then you get what i'm saying i get what you're saying yeah i'm just you know

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but it's already you know like it's already spiraled out of control over here and you can't

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just like gently pull it back you have got to be ruthless yeah and i don't think of it as

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retaliation i think of it as accountability right and and you get all these dumb labels and all this

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shit but um yeah you got to be real careful holding yourself to um some rules-based system

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that the other side gives no fucks about yeah because i mean that's how you end up with communism

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yeah no I mean that's I think it's part of the uh isn't that like part of the I think it was like

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Sawalinski's rules for radicals where they talk about this stuff where they kind of say like yeah

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it's you know when we have power fuck it we do whatever we want they do you know that's part of

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play within the system only when it's convenient to follow the rules and yeah when it's not

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convenient just fuck the rules right do whatever you're gonna do that's what we're up against yeah

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so you have to have to really understand what you're dealing with on that sense

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there was something i'm gonna get you more radical yeah you're radicalizing me i had

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such a good question to ask you but i forgot it it was about all this

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oh man let's change topics a little bit what do you think the biggest themes for 2026 are going

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to be when it comes to bitcoin and you know crypto in general where do you think we're at

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right now with the cycle everything happening you know are we out of the four-year cycle people are

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talking about that. You know, what do you think is going to be a big theme for 2026? Yeah.

445
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That's tough because, you know, I'm a little bit of a doomer and I think that the chaos is going

446
00:26:04,245 --> 00:26:11,405
to continue, which is historically not good for markets and assets and things like that.

447
00:26:11,545 --> 00:26:18,445
And so I think we've held like price wise, we've sort of set a new sort of we're like hanging out

448
00:26:18,445 --> 00:26:26,745
here. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of huge event, whether it's a false flag or,

449
00:26:26,745 --> 00:26:34,185
you know, just more like some war gets declared or something and that we see like a dip down.

450
00:26:34,345 --> 00:26:41,025
I'm fully prepared for some sort of like drawdown. But then I think at some point,

451
00:26:41,025 --> 00:26:48,985
like is the top in I don't for if if there's still a cycle I don't know anything is possible

452
00:26:48,985 --> 00:26:54,305
uh I think we see like a sharp drawdown I think something is going to happen there's going to be

453
00:26:54,305 --> 00:26:58,965
some major chaos just all of these things are escalating you know we see all of these events

454
00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:08,105
so I think more chaos more chaos but then ultimately Bitcoin will end up higher if you

455
00:27:08,105 --> 00:27:13,685
are still looking at dollar conversions which you shouldn't be but if you are i don't know i don't

456
00:27:13,685 --> 00:27:21,665
know what comes next we're in this like wall street suit coin era it's not as fun but it also

457
00:27:21,665 --> 00:27:31,225
was inevitable uh i would like to see a resurgence of some of the like libertarian cypherpunk roots

458
00:27:31,225 --> 00:27:37,225
and the one like sort of the silk in my opinion the silver lining of any sort of chaos that may

459
00:27:37,225 --> 00:27:45,505
escalate is that you will see I think that kind of breeds the people that want and need Bitcoin for

460
00:27:45,505 --> 00:27:51,225
reasons other than number go up right we were talking about like in Nigeria Lebanon you have

461
00:27:51,225 --> 00:27:57,265
people that really just understand Bitcoin because their currency is fucked and so I think we may

462
00:27:57,265 --> 00:28:02,265
recruit more people to Bitcoin because of that less suits more I think the situation with the

463
00:28:02,265 --> 00:28:07,285
samurai devs is going to be like a real sticking point for this administration. If he, you know,

464
00:28:07,365 --> 00:28:14,745
if he, if Trump pardons, you know, Keon and the devs, I think that would be like a good,

465
00:28:15,225 --> 00:28:19,685
a really good thing, obviously, for our community. But it would, it would, it would draw the line,

466
00:28:19,745 --> 00:28:23,725
you know, in the fight for, for freedom and privacy and basically say, Hey, look,

467
00:28:23,765 --> 00:28:27,805
we're going to support development and protection of privacy and rights. So we'll see how that plays

468
00:28:27,805 --> 00:28:31,045
out. I mean, what's your prediction? Because by the time this airs, he might have already partnered,

469
00:28:31,045 --> 00:28:31,625
or he might not.

470
00:28:31,845 --> 00:28:32,425
So we don't need to.

471
00:28:32,425 --> 00:28:33,165
Oh, I hope so.

472
00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:35,065
I think this is really, really important

473
00:28:35,065 --> 00:28:40,565
because the fight against crypto is not over, right?

474
00:28:40,565 --> 00:28:44,225
We saw a major reversal in Choke Point 2.0

475
00:28:44,225 --> 00:28:46,005
and sort of this assault against the industry.

476
00:28:46,185 --> 00:28:49,065
We saw a huge reversal with the Trump admin coming in.

477
00:28:49,505 --> 00:28:51,725
But I think it's super naive to believe

478
00:28:51,725 --> 00:28:53,265
that that's the end of the fight.

479
00:28:53,425 --> 00:28:55,205
We have not yet won.

480
00:28:56,225 --> 00:29:00,565
And so the stronger that Trump can draw the line

481
00:29:00,565 --> 00:29:03,825
and say, you cannot come after developers this way.

482
00:29:03,865 --> 00:29:05,525
You cannot come after the industry this way.

483
00:29:05,525 --> 00:29:08,065
Like the harder that that line gets drawn,

484
00:29:08,205 --> 00:29:11,705
the more well-prepared we will be going into the next battle.

485
00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:14,485
So I think that he will.

486
00:29:14,625 --> 00:29:16,645
I'm really optimistic because-

487
00:29:16,645 --> 00:29:17,305
Maybe you're not a doomer.

488
00:29:17,425 --> 00:29:18,745
There's a little bit of hope, right?

489
00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:20,225
Because this court-

490
00:29:20,225 --> 00:29:21,825
Hope may Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.

491
00:29:23,765 --> 00:29:26,725
No, but because the court is specifically the court

492
00:29:26,725 --> 00:29:28,845
that went after Trump and after his family,

493
00:29:28,845 --> 00:29:38,705
I think that that gives a little bit, it gives some additional insight to Trump just without even having to like, you don't have to look too closely to know how much bullshit is happening.

494
00:29:38,925 --> 00:29:39,205
Exactly.

495
00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:39,625
Right.

496
00:29:39,725 --> 00:29:44,925
And so I'm very optimistic that it has gotten on his radar and that he will pardon them.

497
00:29:45,045 --> 00:29:46,745
I think that would be really, really good.

498
00:29:46,965 --> 00:29:49,265
I don't, I'm not like full of hope.

499
00:29:49,325 --> 00:29:54,845
I think the assaults will continue, but it would be a really good like battle to win in the larger war.

500
00:29:54,845 --> 00:29:59,965
what's uh you also mentioned that's a great and a great thought a great thought that you just

501
00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:06,445
laid out for everybody um great analysis you all when you were talking initially you mentioned

502
00:30:06,445 --> 00:30:11,125
choke point 2.0 uh 2.0 you said that battle's kind of uh changing are you actually because

503
00:30:11,125 --> 00:30:14,865
you're actually uniquely qualified to answer this with white federal like do you actually see things

504
00:30:14,865 --> 00:30:20,265
changing there or are we because i like i'm still kind of dealing with it from what i see yeah i'm

505
00:30:20,265 --> 00:30:24,605
still getting told oh you're crypto we can't do business with you i'm still hearing that oh absolutely

506
00:30:24,605 --> 00:30:29,665
I'm still hearing a lot. Absolutely. We have products that we can't get banked. So we have,

507
00:30:29,745 --> 00:30:35,505
you know, the ATMs are still predominantly like our largest line of business, but we have these

508
00:30:35,505 --> 00:30:39,985
other products. We've made announcements. We have things that are being held up because banks are

509
00:30:39,985 --> 00:30:44,645
saying, no, we're not going to do that. You know, and these are not like out of the ordinary lines

510
00:30:44,645 --> 00:30:53,705
of businesses. They're not crazy products. So is choke point 2.0 over? No, not by any stretch of

511
00:30:53,705 --> 00:30:59,185
the means. Everything is still very, very difficult. I think they're going to continue

512
00:30:59,185 --> 00:31:05,965
to make it difficult. I think a lot of people have seen the way that Bitcoin could threaten

513
00:31:05,965 --> 00:31:13,165
the existing system. And so I think there's just been a pivot to sort of push Bitcoin and Bitcoin

514
00:31:13,165 --> 00:31:20,465
products and the whole ecosystem to push it into this corner that holds, you know,

515
00:31:20,465 --> 00:31:28,845
okay then the val like a digital gold right but they don't want bitcoin to be truly unleashed um

516
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:33,145
i haven't i haven't listened to it yet but somebody just asked me did i hear what sailor

517
00:31:33,145 --> 00:31:39,325
said about like taking all the bitcoin out of circulation have you heard that uh well i did see

518
00:31:39,325 --> 00:31:44,685
a post he made today about quantum maybe you can all can you pull up his latest uh tweet i don't

519
00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:48,825
know if this is what you're talking about or not but i'm basically just saying it was interesting

520
00:31:48,825 --> 00:31:49,785
This is an interesting one.

521
00:31:50,125 --> 00:31:54,405
If I understood it correctly, it was like the banks should hold Bitcoin.

522
00:31:54,585 --> 00:31:59,265
Banks and big players will hold Bitcoin and the rest of you will just use paper Bitcoin.

523
00:32:01,605 --> 00:32:02,385
Here it is.

524
00:32:02,445 --> 00:32:03,445
The Bitcoin quantum leap.

525
00:32:03,625 --> 00:32:05,445
Quantum computing won't break Bitcoin.

526
00:32:05,745 --> 00:32:06,525
It will harden it.

527
00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:07,405
The network upgrades.

528
00:32:07,505 --> 00:32:08,345
Active coins migrate.

529
00:32:08,565 --> 00:32:09,785
Lost coins stay frozen.

530
00:32:09,945 --> 00:32:10,785
Security goes up.

531
00:32:11,125 --> 00:32:12,125
Supply comes down.

532
00:32:12,245 --> 00:32:13,625
Bitcoin grows stronger.

533
00:32:13,985 --> 00:32:14,905
That's an interesting take.

534
00:32:15,065 --> 00:32:15,225
Yeah.

535
00:32:15,385 --> 00:32:17,085
You know, I don't disagree with any of that.

536
00:32:17,085 --> 00:32:24,205
I mean, I think this quantum threat is way overhyped because people are bored and they don't have anything else to fud about right now.

537
00:32:24,585 --> 00:32:28,045
It's something that needs to be addressed, but I don't think.

538
00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:33,905
I think there's a couple already like Bitcoin improvement proposals already meant to deal with that if that actually does become a threat.

539
00:32:34,025 --> 00:32:34,205
Yeah.

540
00:32:34,565 --> 00:32:44,725
I mean, I think definitely down the road it could be a potential threat, but I think there would be a way for people to be to have time to upgrade their stuff to, you know, move to a quantum safe wallet implementation.

541
00:32:44,725 --> 00:32:45,045
Right.

542
00:32:45,185 --> 00:32:45,345
Maybe.

543
00:32:45,345 --> 00:32:53,505
yeah no i agree completely michael saylor did briefly he did mention that um bitcoin effectively

544
00:32:53,505 --> 00:33:00,425
could be taken out of circulation um you know discuss this idea in uh response to

545
00:33:00,425 --> 00:33:06,805
quantum computing threats oh i see okay so i don't know if it was presented to me quite accurately

546
00:33:06,805 --> 00:33:12,265
yeah but when he sorry real quick when he answered this question in uh here in naples when we had him

547
00:33:12,265 --> 00:33:13,485
at our symposium.

548
00:33:14,265 --> 00:33:18,045
He said that quantum computing

549
00:33:18,045 --> 00:33:21,745
would likely just be able to discover

550
00:33:21,745 --> 00:33:23,965
the lost coins essentially.

551
00:33:24,325 --> 00:33:25,205
Well, yeah, because those coins

552
00:33:25,205 --> 00:33:25,945
that haven't, you know,

553
00:33:25,965 --> 00:33:27,225
have been lost or have,

554
00:33:27,405 --> 00:33:29,145
you know, eventually those wallets

555
00:33:29,145 --> 00:33:29,825
will get cracked

556
00:33:29,825 --> 00:33:31,605
if nobody's used them for 20 years

557
00:33:31,605 --> 00:33:32,545
or whatever, you know,

558
00:33:32,765 --> 00:33:34,145
and those people died

559
00:33:34,145 --> 00:33:35,485
or they lost the keys or whatever.

560
00:33:35,745 --> 00:33:36,545
And if they don't,

561
00:33:36,625 --> 00:33:37,945
people don't actively upgrade, right?

562
00:33:37,945 --> 00:33:38,505
That's the key.

563
00:33:38,685 --> 00:33:39,705
They don't actively upgrade.

564
00:33:40,665 --> 00:33:42,105
And then Satoshi's stash,

565
00:33:42,105 --> 00:33:46,265
potentially too could also be mined. I think he had mined a bunch of different wallets that are

566
00:33:46,265 --> 00:33:50,985
attributed to him. So there could be treasure troves out there, which at the end of the day,

567
00:33:51,485 --> 00:33:57,305
no matter what happens, there's only 21 million coins. So it doesn't really matter if those coins

568
00:33:57,305 --> 00:34:02,945
are inactive for a very long time and eventually a quantum computer treasure hunter cracks them

569
00:34:02,945 --> 00:34:08,925
eventually and then resells them and introduces that supply. That supply, yes, the price may go

570
00:34:08,925 --> 00:34:12,185
down in the short term. But over the long term, that price supply will get more distributed.

571
00:34:12,745 --> 00:34:17,045
It will get sent out to more people and it's much better. It'll be a short term pain for

572
00:34:17,045 --> 00:34:20,325
long term gain. That's the way I think about it. One Bitcoin will still equal one Bitcoin.

573
00:34:20,325 --> 00:34:23,705
There you go. Exactly. Can you imagine the headlines on CNN?

574
00:34:24,125 --> 00:34:24,705
Bitcoin is over.

575
00:34:24,705 --> 00:34:30,985
Since Hershey's coins have moved. Anonymous Bitcoin creator moves nuts.

576
00:34:31,465 --> 00:34:36,545
Digital pirate treasure stash uncovered. Bitcoin's over now.

577
00:34:36,685 --> 00:34:38,465
That would break people's brains.

578
00:34:38,465 --> 00:34:41,665
Wait till people hear about what they did in COVID and just double the base, increase

579
00:34:41,665 --> 00:34:45,205
the money supply by 50% by pressing a button so we could fund a bunch of Somali pirates.

580
00:34:45,445 --> 00:34:46,345
Oh my God.

581
00:34:47,165 --> 00:34:50,865
And a bunch of PPP loans that was like 80% fraud with zero oversight.

582
00:34:51,025 --> 00:34:51,185
Right.

583
00:34:51,485 --> 00:34:51,785
Right.

584
00:34:51,885 --> 00:34:53,085
And they've all been forgiven.

585
00:34:53,185 --> 00:34:53,365
Yeah.

586
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:57,185
And all these other NGO scams that they gave money here, money there, money there.

587
00:34:57,325 --> 00:35:00,025
We're funding queer studies and for the Taliban.

588
00:35:00,745 --> 00:35:04,025
Apparently we're still paying the Taliban like 50 million a week or something I saw.

589
00:35:04,905 --> 00:35:05,825
Something crazy.

590
00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:06,725
Gay and ridiculous.

591
00:35:06,725 --> 00:35:10,205
They tried to stop it and they said, no, we're not stopping this.

592
00:35:10,365 --> 00:35:11,205
We'll kill you.

593
00:35:12,705 --> 00:35:15,165
And then everybody was like, oh, okay, no problem.

594
00:35:15,265 --> 00:35:15,985
You can't even make this.

595
00:35:15,985 --> 00:35:18,265
You get a check, you get a check, you get a check.

596
00:35:19,805 --> 00:35:21,985
Oh my God, this is the shit I'm angry at.

597
00:35:21,985 --> 00:35:22,885
Yeah, no, it is.

598
00:35:22,945 --> 00:35:23,745
It's unbelievable.

599
00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:26,065
But this is fucking fiat shit.

600
00:35:26,345 --> 00:35:26,805
It is.

601
00:35:26,905 --> 00:35:27,685
It's absolutely.

602
00:35:27,685 --> 00:35:28,485
This is fiat fraud.

603
00:35:28,485 --> 00:35:33,085
In a Bitcoin denominated world, this stuff does not happen.

604
00:35:33,225 --> 00:35:33,485
It's true.

605
00:35:33,645 --> 00:35:35,685
It's not even possible because there is real oversight.

606
00:35:35,685 --> 00:35:40,365
You can't just press a button and make money and then not care what happens or incompetently

607
00:35:40,365 --> 00:35:40,985
waste it, right?

608
00:35:40,985 --> 00:35:41,165
Yeah.

609
00:35:41,485 --> 00:35:43,065
So, yeah.

610
00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:48,285
You mentioned the suits era we're going into.

611
00:35:48,525 --> 00:35:53,065
What do you think of MicroStrategy and all these different treasury companies and how

612
00:35:53,065 --> 00:35:54,045
things are playing out there?

613
00:35:54,045 --> 00:35:58,805
Do you see that as something we should be aware of, nervous about?

614
00:35:59,025 --> 00:36:00,045
Are you excited about it?

615
00:36:00,525 --> 00:36:01,625
I don't give a shit.

616
00:36:01,805 --> 00:36:02,645
You don't give a shit.

617
00:36:03,945 --> 00:36:04,385
No.

618
00:36:04,385 --> 00:36:23,785
Well, let's see. I think for people who still have for people who have assets that are fiat assets, I think strategy is a great option. I'm glad that that option exists. I think I'm really glad to see companies holding Bitcoin on their balance sheet.

619
00:36:24,245 --> 00:36:30,205
I'm not a big fan of like that being the only thing that you're doing.

620
00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:30,945
Right.

621
00:36:31,025 --> 00:36:38,765
So I think if you're going to make investments, you should be making investments in real companies like MicroStrategy is a real company.

622
00:36:38,765 --> 00:36:45,565
Obviously, they have a very unique use case because they were first and they have whatever percent of the entire supply.

623
00:36:45,765 --> 00:36:51,705
And I think ultimately that will play out and strategy becomes some type of bank or something.

624
00:36:51,705 --> 00:36:56,305
But for the vast majority of these companies, like, is it interesting or not?

625
00:36:56,405 --> 00:36:59,905
Like, well, you know, the fact that they hold Bitcoin is not that interesting to me.

626
00:36:59,985 --> 00:37:02,385
So, like, what else is the company doing?

627
00:37:02,545 --> 00:37:02,725
Yeah.

628
00:37:03,265 --> 00:37:04,305
And if they're...

629
00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:05,525
I think Jack Myles was talking about this with...

630
00:37:05,525 --> 00:37:05,765
Yeah.

631
00:37:05,985 --> 00:37:11,005
What if they just opened a new company and he was kind of saying, you know, we're going to be doing lending products or different things.

632
00:37:11,405 --> 00:37:12,725
Digital credit, they were calling it.

633
00:37:12,825 --> 00:37:13,045
Yeah.

634
00:37:13,165 --> 00:37:16,405
It'll be like a financial services business, you know.

635
00:37:16,465 --> 00:37:18,985
And whatever you're doing, like, keep doing it.

636
00:37:18,985 --> 00:37:22,685
I just I like to see these companies that are doing something.

637
00:37:23,085 --> 00:37:26,445
I think some of them do nothing but hold Bitcoin.

638
00:37:26,525 --> 00:37:28,485
And I don't really think that that's a business model.

639
00:37:28,485 --> 00:37:33,725
Like, I think that's great if you're a person or, you know, I don't know.

640
00:37:33,885 --> 00:37:38,405
But, you know, we're we're in like a transitional period.

641
00:37:38,405 --> 00:37:48,585
If you you know, if the goal ultimately is hyper Bitcoinization and we get rid of all the fiat fraud and all of this shit, like how long we talked about decades possibly that it takes to get there.

642
00:37:48,585 --> 00:37:55,085
so i'm glad that people have access to these sort of like in between times products um it's not

643
00:37:55,085 --> 00:38:03,025
really for me i don't care about the fiat structured things um but yeah i mean the suit

644
00:38:03,025 --> 00:38:08,185
error it was inevitable yeah i mean i think it's good uh like long term when it comes to like

645
00:38:08,185 --> 00:38:12,465
accumulation with a lot of these like different funds and stuff that will will be passively

646
00:38:12,465 --> 00:38:16,945
allocating to bitcoin like in grandma me ma and papa's portfolio where they don't really

647
00:38:16,945 --> 00:38:20,825
know or understand, but hey, now they're getting a little Bitcoin. I think that's great.

648
00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:25,405
Yeah. A good thing for them. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's good for everyone in the fact that

649
00:38:25,405 --> 00:38:31,865
what I am happy to see is some of the rules loosening in terms of who can hold Bitcoin.

650
00:38:31,865 --> 00:38:37,025
You know, the banks now are allowed, you know. So that's good. I think that's good for normies

651
00:38:37,025 --> 00:38:40,945
who don't really know what's going on and may provide a little bit of protection for them.

652
00:38:41,205 --> 00:38:45,885
Yeah. Did you see the whole, was it like JP Morgan came out with this big thing,

653
00:38:45,885 --> 00:38:49,325
like against micro strategy or something. And then, then they said that, Oh, we're going to

654
00:38:49,325 --> 00:38:52,805
offer the same product or something. And then they were like changing the rules on some other,

655
00:38:53,165 --> 00:38:56,385
I don't know what it was, but some rule for certain types of funds or something.

656
00:38:56,765 --> 00:39:05,185
I, I don't understand it super well, but I know it was timed, super targeted. And I think,

657
00:39:05,225 --> 00:39:10,145
you know, these are the types of things that people are not quite as aware of. Um, but these

658
00:39:10,145 --> 00:39:14,325
are the sort of things, like when I say we're still at war, I mean, we are very much still at

659
00:39:14,325 --> 00:39:22,945
war with the fiat banking empire. Just because Chokepoint 2.0 has slowed down, it doesn't mean

660
00:39:22,945 --> 00:39:26,925
that they're not playing all these games. There's going to be more games played. We're going to be

661
00:39:26,925 --> 00:39:32,085
targeted. And so I just think people need to be aware of that and cautious about it.

662
00:39:34,665 --> 00:39:39,085
You hit the nail on the head. Here's a philosophical question for you.

663
00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:44,925
When money can be created without constraint, losses are socialized and mistakes never fully clear.

664
00:39:45,585 --> 00:39:47,805
What does that do to accountability in a society?

665
00:39:49,085 --> 00:39:50,585
It destroys accountability.

666
00:39:51,245 --> 00:39:52,145
There is no accountability.

667
00:39:52,345 --> 00:39:56,265
Nobody's accountable for anything at this point in this fiat empire.

668
00:39:57,025 --> 00:40:01,645
And that eventually creates ruin, right?

669
00:40:01,785 --> 00:40:03,965
And so we're living in ruin.

670
00:40:04,085 --> 00:40:04,965
Everything's in ruin.

671
00:40:04,965 --> 00:40:08,085
Nothing is good anymore.

672
00:40:09,085 --> 00:40:17,345
You've made the argument that fiat culture weakens people, especially men, by making survival dependent on compliance.

673
00:40:17,785 --> 00:40:20,925
How does money shape courage, family stability, and personal responsibility?

674
00:40:21,665 --> 00:40:24,325
Oh, this is deep down.

675
00:40:24,325 --> 00:40:25,845
This is philosophy corner.

676
00:40:25,845 --> 00:40:28,705
And it's like Maddie's voice, his podcast voice.

677
00:40:29,065 --> 00:40:30,825
I gotta go into my philosophical voice now.

678
00:40:31,265 --> 00:40:33,985
Okay, wait, read that one again. That's like a big question.

679
00:40:33,985 --> 00:40:40,665
You've made the argument that fiat culture weakens people, especially men, by making survival dependent on compliance.

680
00:40:41,265 --> 00:40:44,405
How does money shape courage, family stability, and personal responsibility?

681
00:40:45,425 --> 00:40:45,945
Damn.

682
00:40:46,405 --> 00:40:48,245
I'm about to write a whole book about this.

683
00:40:50,425 --> 00:40:52,445
Well, it's true what I said, right?

684
00:40:52,605 --> 00:40:54,985
Like, people are scared.

685
00:40:55,585 --> 00:40:59,385
They're scared of losing their paycheck because they say the wrong thing, right?

686
00:40:59,385 --> 00:41:02,385
You have this idea of a compliance and...

687
00:41:03,985 --> 00:41:05,025
There's a lot there.

688
00:41:05,325 --> 00:41:07,045
It does make people weak.

689
00:41:08,465 --> 00:41:15,125
You know, and as people get weaker and weaker, society gets weaker.

690
00:41:15,325 --> 00:41:19,985
Like, we've talked a lot about accountability and involvement and...

691
00:41:23,505 --> 00:41:25,305
Damn, that's hard.

692
00:41:30,845 --> 00:41:32,845
Currency ruins everything.

693
00:41:33,985 --> 00:41:46,030
It does make men weak It makes everyone weak You have to let me think about that one in life No Like that these are you know a lot of the shit i say uh it easier like to write as i can think about it for

694
00:41:46,030 --> 00:41:52,170
three hours before i um but i think the way that you you put it and you summarize sort of some of

695
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:58,130
the rants that i go off on i think really like hits the nail on the head it makes people weak

696
00:41:58,130 --> 00:42:08,810
you know traditionally society has been led by men you know so who who can be most weakened is

697
00:42:08,810 --> 00:42:15,090
the strongest people and so this whole idea of toxic masculinity and all this stuff yeah like

698
00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:23,210
what's what is toxic is the lack of masculinity i agree right because real men are not toxic

699
00:42:23,210 --> 00:42:31,370
real men are amazing people and without real men we see the downfall of society we see

700
00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:38,030
like children being hurt in the bathrooms and their dad's too scared to do anything about it

701
00:42:38,030 --> 00:42:45,310
and and all of this nonsense um i actually i just saw this clip the other day of this man

702
00:42:45,310 --> 00:42:52,890
at a school board meeting which is like why i use that as an example and he brought uh some like

703
00:42:52,890 --> 00:43:00,030
older teenagers and had them start changing in the meeting. And the school bard got really

704
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:06,770
uncomfortable and angry, obviously, and tried to stop it. And he said, why are you uncomfortable?

705
00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:14,470
Like, you've asked my 10-year-old daughter to be comfortable in this space with men changing in

706
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:20,370
front of them, but you're uncomfortable. And it was like, it was, I thought it was really powerful

707
00:43:20,370 --> 00:43:25,850
and very impactful and I hope that it made a difference at that school and that to me is like

708
00:43:25,850 --> 00:43:34,150
the epitome of like a strong man a strong dad a strong father a strong community member and that

709
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:40,130
is what we need to like take the reins back from the ruin that we're currently living in

710
00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:48,310
interesting so I'm sure there's lots of liberal retards who are crying about that like oh it was

711
00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:55,850
so toxic and how dare you and all of this bullshit but like no like that's actually what we need to

712
00:43:55,850 --> 00:44:02,290
see what needs like that's actually amazing like good for him like some of these people are so stuck

713
00:44:02,290 --> 00:44:06,110
with the woke mind virus that you have to do stuff like that to their face they can really start to

714
00:44:06,110 --> 00:44:11,190
like grasp the ridiculousness right and absurdity of so much of this stuff yeah yeah exactly did you

715
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:15,890
see elon's like chart that he posted like the death of woke mind virus recently where it just

716
00:44:15,890 --> 00:44:20,330
like shows like all these things and like i don't think i saw that he's got all these charts and it

717
00:44:20,330 --> 00:44:23,430
just shows it going up in academia all these things and like since he took over x it's just

718
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:28,170
like right now amazing yeah pull it up it's pretty good i was gonna say let's see that i love it

719
00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:35,170
i have the um i have the opposite chart that i'm always tweeting about when it started with this

720
00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:39,890
yeah undack yeah there it is going on the woke mind virus was easy to measure now it's being

721
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:47,590
perched yes yes i have tweeted that exact chart so many times so you just see all this stuff and

722
00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:52,230
then you can just see when the psyop starts and that google starts pushing 2013 totally like you

723
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:55,190
know horrible for this because they go in the search algorithms and they manipulate it and

724
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:59,050
gaslight you and push anytime you search a question or something they kind of like social

725
00:44:59,050 --> 00:45:03,890
so slowly socially engineer you with all this lib this all this woke nonsense propaganda

726
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:07,810
about all these different things everything's racist you know unless you're a white person

727
00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:14,050
then it's not racist yeah you see 2013 was the turning point you know what happened there i've

728
00:45:14,050 --> 00:45:19,730
yelled i've yelled enough about the smith mund act oh when they could when they could basically uh

729
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:25,550
run propaganda propaganda on ourselves i think obama repealed that didn't he yep yep which by

730
00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:30,630
the way is super hard to google because they've labeled it yeah they've they they say that he's

731
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:35,630
modernized it and so like obvuscates the truth yeah that's what they do these are the games they

732
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:39,950
play and you know there's incredible bias in that search tweak and algorithm this is like

733
00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:45,690
part of the reason i'm excited about ai is because it was so bad before with google because everybody

734
00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:50,590
uses google they have that monopoly and then they the little social justice warriors that are in

735
00:45:50,590 --> 00:45:54,890
silicon valley that think they're all smart little developers up there they're in there tweaking the

736
00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:59,110
algorithm and when it's time for an election they go in and they literally have all of your private

737
00:45:59,110 --> 00:46:02,710
data if you have a google account they have all of your information and they know how to socially

738
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:04,890
engineer you. They have all of your data from forever.

739
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:06,830
So they know every little detail that you care about

740
00:46:06,830 --> 00:46:08,790
or something that you like and they know, okay, I'm going to

741
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:10,790
push you this customized piece of propaganda,

742
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:12,810
Michelle, because I know you care about this one issue.

743
00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:14,710
And then, you know, Paul over there cares

744
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:16,550
about these two issues. So they know that they're going to

745
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:18,630
socially engineer and do that.

746
00:46:19,570 --> 00:46:20,810
Paul, what are you lighting over there?

747
00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:22,550
Michelle's, she's been

748
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:23,490
sick.

749
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:26,710
Oh, I'm so sorry. This is Palo Santo.

750
00:46:27,250 --> 00:46:28,330
I'm going to burn it again.

751
00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:28,990
Palo Santo.

752
00:46:30,310 --> 00:46:32,590
I thought it was Sage or something, but

753
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:33,930
He just tries to make it smell good.

754
00:46:33,930 --> 00:46:34,230
I know.

755
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:35,630
It's very on-frame.

756
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:39,290
The scent is a little strong.

757
00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:39,970
You've been sick.

758
00:46:40,050 --> 00:46:40,710
Tell me about that.

759
00:46:40,750 --> 00:46:41,550
I've been super sick.

760
00:46:41,570 --> 00:46:42,230
That's not good.

761
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:46,230
It's been really a hell of a few months, but I'm on the mend.

762
00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:47,730
Was the deep state trying to take you out?

763
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:48,790
Yeah, they were.

764
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:53,630
I think Paul actually works for the deep state over there.

765
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:54,850
He's got his Palo Santo.

766
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:55,470
Palo Alto.

767
00:46:55,470 --> 00:46:56,230
Always meet me.

768
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:57,710
I'm talking about Palo Alto.

769
00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:59,350
They're doing it at Google, and he starts-

770
00:46:59,350 --> 00:47:00,590
Palo Santo.

771
00:47:00,590 --> 00:47:02,370
He lights the Palo Santo to try to eat.

772
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:13,210
now all right abort abort mission oh man uh wait what i was gonna say what i'm gonna say

773
00:47:13,210 --> 00:47:18,890
what were we talking um google google oh yes uh but i was saying i was excited for ai because

774
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:23,770
hopefully you know obviously open ai is going to be google 2.0 and hopefully we have other

775
00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:28,430
alternatives more options at least at least garak is trying and then there's other alternatives too

776
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:57,590
Yeah. Yeah. I actually I'm also hopeful about that ish. I I I a little a little maybe. I googled cultural Marxism a while ago. I was looking for something that turn that stuck in our vernacular. I googled this. I googled that. Like I try not to say that anymore because I'm so sick of shit. I'm going to rock that shit. That's what I say. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said something about Wikipedia and I was like or you could just not use it. Right. Like, yeah, I don't Google almost anything, but I was looking for something really specific.

777
00:47:57,590 --> 00:48:05,690
and it told me that cultural marxism was a far right conspiracy theory and the thing is they

778
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:09,690
push up to the top of the search algorithm they do they push up probably all these like blog posts

779
00:48:09,690 --> 00:48:15,510
from these these woke yeah the woke the woke the woke clown people then they're like people the

780
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:19,770
very first couple things i mean you know they push all of the the the good stuff down and it's like

781
00:48:19,770 --> 00:48:25,370
they put at the top these like woke propaganda articles right these people that like who is this

782
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:29,570
person that's writing this article why is it top of my search document oh this is a dei professor

783
00:48:29,570 --> 00:48:35,290
at uh at oxford or a harvard or wherever you know and they they push all that stuff up to the front

784
00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:38,470
it's like this is just somebody's opinion this is a blog post this is not actual information

785
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:41,630
yeah you know and people just that's what they read that's the first thing they read so

786
00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:47,770
so they slowly are socially engineering everybody yeah no they have been for 20 plus i mean really

787
00:48:47,770 --> 00:48:55,010
since yeah the internet took off and uh i you know so you mentioned some of the aides i'm excited

788
00:48:55,010 --> 00:49:01,270
about grokopedia yeah uh because wikipedia is just a complete propaganda so grokopedia hopefully

789
00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:08,790
like also i still have a paper uh what do you britannica the inside i have an encyclopedia

790
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:16,570
like oh really yes let's make encyclopedia great again yes yeah like paper books you know i think

791
00:49:16,570 --> 00:49:23,390
there's a non-zero chance that like everything goes down and there's nothing digital and i just

792
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:26,330
I'm prepared. I can't wait. I hope it happens.

793
00:49:26,330 --> 00:49:40,870
But you're going to need an encyclopedia, maybe some VHSs that you've downloaded or MP3s on a local hard drive, some walkie-talkies, maybe something to access the mesh network.

794
00:49:41,230 --> 00:49:43,910
And I'll fly my helicopter down here.

795
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:50,090
yeah i don't i mean i think we're we're we're getting to the point now with all these satellites

796
00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:55,010
and stuff in space with starlink and there's going to be other ones as well that like i don't think

797
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:59,690
there will be a way to ever take down the internet anymore i mean if there's 10 000 satellites like

798
00:49:59,690 --> 00:50:03,370
right you know flying around the earth i mean i guess you could try but so there's some of them

799
00:50:03,370 --> 00:50:08,430
are so small that it's like well i think it's more a matter of interrupting communication and

800
00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:13,890
the flow of network data so that it becomes harder and harder to access the things that we want

801
00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:19,070
and you'll be sort of like steered into these small silos

802
00:50:19,070 --> 00:50:22,250
so that they can hyper control the information that goes through there.

803
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:25,430
That's kind of more the future that I see.

804
00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:27,430
Explain that a little bit more because I don't really understand.

805
00:50:27,570 --> 00:50:28,910
I'm not understanding that.

806
00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:29,590
Are they?

807
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:31,850
Because like if you can tap into a Starlink satellite,

808
00:50:32,010 --> 00:50:34,050
aren't you like you basically can have access to the internet?

809
00:50:34,130 --> 00:50:35,590
Are you saying like the firewall?

810
00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:37,110
The internet itself would be?

811
00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:37,570
Yes.

812
00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:37,970
Yeah.

813
00:50:37,970 --> 00:50:39,170
So like in China, right?

814
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:41,310
Like you can't even go to certain websites.

815
00:50:41,310 --> 00:50:49,030
And I was going to say, like, even this idea of the Internet, like we talk about the Internet as if it is.

816
00:50:50,550 --> 00:51:04,390
This beacon of free and open access, which it was, I think there was this period of time, like if you go back far enough, you had to kind of understand how your modem worked to get onto the Internet.

817
00:51:04,910 --> 00:51:07,670
And then access became easier and easier.

818
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:14,330
We saw home internet access like really thrive and then you could get on the internet with your phone and then it was everywhere.

819
00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:19,890
And there was this period of time where like I think we all took access to information for granted.

820
00:51:20,290 --> 00:51:27,970
But 40% of websites that have been created in the past 20 years are gone.

821
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:34,790
So even like the idea of the internet that you reference, what does that even mean, right?

822
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:48,270
Because I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think that when you say the internet, you believe that the internet is a place that you can find any information that you might want.

823
00:51:48,530 --> 00:51:54,590
You may have to look a little harder, scroll down past Google page one propaganda results.

824
00:51:54,930 --> 00:51:55,330
Yep.

825
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:57,210
I don't even use Google.

826
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:57,710
Yeah.

827
00:51:57,930 --> 00:51:58,650
So, right.

828
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:01,130
Their search algorithm is good, though.

829
00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:04,910
You got to give them the credit where credit's due because if you want to find something specific, yeah, they're pretty damn good at it.

830
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:08,130
But I've just gotten used to using other browsers and using other search engines.

831
00:52:08,290 --> 00:52:08,470
Sure.

832
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:11,530
Slightly worse products that don't try to socially engineer me.

833
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:12,710
So you're moving –

834
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:12,890
So you're moving –

835
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:26,650
So just like take that out exponentially over another 10 years and you're sort of moving in the direction towards this like you are already –

836
00:52:26,650 --> 00:52:30,670
you're already doing what they want you to do-ish, right?

837
00:52:30,670 --> 00:52:36,730
So you've moved away from Google because you recognize that what you're getting from Google is just propaganda.

838
00:52:36,970 --> 00:52:38,990
And there are some other options.

839
00:52:39,110 --> 00:52:40,350
You can use other browsers.

840
00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:49,290
You can use the AI models that are coming out that presumably have full access to all of the data that has existed.

841
00:52:49,970 --> 00:52:53,250
But I think that that's going to continue to get steered.

842
00:52:54,050 --> 00:52:57,850
And most people will not move around.

843
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:59,510
They will just get steered.

844
00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:00,910
and

845
00:53:00,910 --> 00:53:05,350
the internet will no longer be

846
00:53:05,350 --> 00:53:07,050
like a place for free

847
00:53:07,050 --> 00:53:09,390
and I actually, I would actually make the case

848
00:53:09,390 --> 00:53:10,930
that we are already in a place

849
00:53:10,930 --> 00:53:12,730
where... I already feel that, that's what I'm saying.

850
00:53:12,850 --> 00:53:15,190
I already feel like people are being steered and they have no idea.

851
00:53:15,370 --> 00:53:16,630
Correct. Especially like, you know,

852
00:53:17,010 --> 00:53:19,370
like older generation will have like no clue.

853
00:53:19,490 --> 00:53:21,210
They all go to Google. Google, Wikipedia.

854
00:53:21,210 --> 00:53:22,790
Oh, this is what it says on the first thing, yeah.

855
00:53:23,090 --> 00:53:24,610
That's fact. Yeah, I mean, you kind of...

856
00:53:24,610 --> 00:53:26,990
They take that as fact. Yeah. You know, you have to kind of curate

857
00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:28,970
your experience. I'm already doing that, you know, but

858
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:31,070
Yeah, most people don't even have, they don't even know.

859
00:53:31,290 --> 00:53:33,470
That's why I think this is so sinister, what Google has done.

860
00:53:33,490 --> 00:53:33,890
Yes.

861
00:53:33,950 --> 00:53:37,850
Is the manipulation of information and the manipulation of search results, you know.

862
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:40,210
And it's not just, you know, economic.

863
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:42,730
There is all that really political stuff that's happening there.

864
00:53:42,750 --> 00:53:42,950
Yeah.

865
00:53:43,090 --> 00:53:47,070
And people are just being, you know, the algorithms are manipulating and gaslighting.

866
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:50,690
And all platforms kind of are doing some of this stuff when you go on social media and stuff.

867
00:53:50,690 --> 00:53:53,530
But you can kind of curate it a little bit more with Google.

868
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:54,450
It's like there's these.

869
00:53:54,690 --> 00:53:55,150
Google's totally.

870
00:53:55,350 --> 00:53:55,990
They've done these.

871
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:58,390
I think it was Dr. Robert Epstein.

872
00:53:58,390 --> 00:54:00,070
and he did this research on it and found out.

873
00:54:00,110 --> 00:54:01,130
You know they killed his wife.

874
00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:03,170
That's what he thinks, yeah.

875
00:54:03,490 --> 00:54:05,190
That's kind of wild.

876
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:06,330
I have no doubt.

877
00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:07,590
You have no doubt, wow.

878
00:54:07,930 --> 00:54:09,450
I've always wanted to talk to him about it

879
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:10,130
because I've been curious.

880
00:54:10,570 --> 00:54:12,750
I would love for you to have a conversation.

881
00:54:13,070 --> 00:54:14,810
I would love to have a conversation with him.

882
00:54:14,830 --> 00:54:15,610
I've reached out to him once or twice.

883
00:54:15,610 --> 00:54:16,770
Dr. Robert Epstein.

884
00:54:17,110 --> 00:54:18,070
Yeah, come on.

885
00:54:18,530 --> 00:54:19,770
Come talk to the AIS.

886
00:54:19,950 --> 00:54:22,150
He has retweeted one of your videos before.

887
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:23,090
Oh, he has, okay, cool.

888
00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:24,690
I'm going to at tweet him.

889
00:54:24,930 --> 00:54:26,830
I was on this kick for a long time

890
00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:30,430
work because i was like nobody even knows who this dude is like no there's what yeah they've

891
00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:33,930
been like censoring him and demoting his stuff oh yeah yeah he's like so i've been trying to push

892
00:54:33,930 --> 00:54:38,010
it out there i try to make a couple videos but right obviously the algorithm i'm gonna help you

893
00:54:38,010 --> 00:54:42,550
get him oh he's been he's one of my dream guests i'd love to talk oh my gosh all right let's make

894
00:54:42,550 --> 00:54:46,810
that happen listen huge fan of his research and he's got i think it's called seam which is search

895
00:54:46,810 --> 00:54:51,970
engine manipulation effect and uh sears and there's a couple other like little uh like uh

896
00:54:51,970 --> 00:54:56,630
acronyms that he has of like all this research he's done but like i'm super like i'm a super

897
00:54:56,630 --> 00:55:00,750
a huge fan of like how he's actually done this empirically where he's gotten all these people

898
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:06,690
randomly all over right where they do these uh these ephemeral experiences yes so you can't even

899
00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:10,430
there's no record of it later so when it's like election time and there's like an election coming

900
00:55:10,430 --> 00:55:14,550
up like google has all your gmail account or whatever they know exactly who they need to kind

901
00:55:14,550 --> 00:55:19,450
of motivate and push to go vote so they can get what they want and it's fucking crazy it is insane

902
00:55:19,450 --> 00:55:24,030
so he's literally like videotaping the screen and seeing oh you're a fucking democrat in this area

903
00:55:24,030 --> 00:55:28,730
go vote oh you're a republican in this area here's a video about about monkeys and elephants don't

904
00:55:28,730 --> 00:55:33,190
it's on election day it's on election day voting in the psyop why you shouldn't drive today you

905
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:38,510
know yes yes no exactly right oh it's gonna rain yeah it's gonna rain today here's a rain forecast

906
00:55:38,510 --> 00:55:41,870
in your area you know so this is the stuff like shit that's happening it's yeah it's like people

907
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:48,670
have no clue they don't and it's like it's wild and it's it's honestly it's evil and what i the

908
00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:53,630
angle that i think that should be taken on this situation and they there's been there really hasn't

909
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:58,750
been a way to like quantify this or like figure out exactly you know what the effect is here but

910
00:55:58,750 --> 00:56:02,850
i think google should be fine for illegal campaign contribution when they do this stuff

911
00:56:02,850 --> 00:56:07,970
that's what it is what is the value of moving if you look at all the money that's poured into

912
00:56:07,970 --> 00:56:11,550
elections and you see how much money is actually spent on this shit people these campaign people

913
00:56:11,550 --> 00:56:15,290
raise all this money and spend on shit that really doesn't move the needle okay you have

914
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:19,190
one more ad on television or okay you have this one rally or you do this one thing or you know

915
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:23,810
does that stuff really move the needle probably not but will it move the needle if you can fucking

916
00:56:23,810 --> 00:56:27,070
socially engineer and manipulate hundreds of thousands of millions of people without their

917
00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:31,290
consent or knowledge and you can slowly put your hand on the you know slowly put your thumb on the

918
00:56:31,290 --> 00:56:35,210
scales and that can move a million votes and change the outcome of election what's the political

919
00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:39,510
value what is the actual economic value of that i'd argue it's fucking hundreds of millions

920
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:44,290
potentially in the presidential election you know tens of billions maybe a hundred billion plus

921
00:56:44,290 --> 00:56:50,050
right maybe even more so like if quantify that figure that out have some actual evidence and

922
00:56:50,050 --> 00:56:54,050
fucking report on it and you know go after them for a legal campaign contribution because that's

923
00:56:54,050 --> 00:56:58,410
what it is honestly it's a campaign contribution right so you know you're using your product that

924
00:56:58,410 --> 00:57:03,570
you would charge so much money for right like if you're if you pay google to put your product up

925
00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:06,790
higher on the page sure right like they're gonna charge millions of dollars yeah they're gonna

926
00:57:06,790 --> 00:57:10,250
they're gonna fucking charge you right you know you're gonna have a fee so what is the outcome

927
00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:12,350
of being able to manipulate an election

928
00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:13,770
and steer millions of votes

929
00:57:13,770 --> 00:57:15,050
during a critical period of time.

930
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:17,730
I think the economic value of that is enormous.

931
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:20,090
So if they're doing that,

932
00:57:20,190 --> 00:57:21,090
not disclosing that,

933
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:22,710
that's the angle to attack them on that.

934
00:57:22,770 --> 00:57:24,230
That's how you get justice for that situation.

935
00:57:24,330 --> 00:57:24,690
Absolutely.

936
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:26,150
And then not to mention,

937
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:27,430
it's just fucking evil

938
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:27,970
to be socially,

939
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:28,150
socially,

940
00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:29,110
socially manipulating people.

941
00:57:29,630 --> 00:57:30,490
I mean, it's completely evil.

942
00:57:30,830 --> 00:57:30,970
Yeah.

943
00:57:31,210 --> 00:57:31,930
Now, okay.

944
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:33,410
So imagine if you will,

945
00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:34,450
that it's not just Google.

946
00:57:36,170 --> 00:57:37,010
No, it's not.

947
00:57:37,110 --> 00:57:37,610
It's not.

948
00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:38,570
No, it's not.

949
00:57:38,850 --> 00:57:39,590
They just have that.

950
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:40,590
They just have the search engine.

951
00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:41,270
They have a stronghold.

952
00:57:41,770 --> 00:57:41,970
Right.

953
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:43,110
With the search engine thing.

954
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:44,230
And that's what really can.

955
00:57:44,310 --> 00:57:44,530
Yeah.

956
00:57:45,010 --> 00:57:46,150
There's a lot of people that like.

957
00:57:46,410 --> 00:57:46,650
But yeah.

958
00:57:46,730 --> 00:57:47,550
Open up the internet.

959
00:57:47,790 --> 00:57:48,250
And it's Google.

960
00:57:48,410 --> 00:57:49,070
And they don't know the names.

961
00:57:49,070 --> 00:57:49,430
Exactly.

962
00:57:49,610 --> 00:57:49,750
Exactly.

963
00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:51,110
But I mean.

964
00:57:51,110 --> 00:57:52,150
One could say that.

965
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:52,410
You know.

966
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:54,470
The CIA has offices in the ISPs.

967
00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:55,390
Of course they do.

968
00:57:55,530 --> 00:57:55,810
Yes.

969
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:56,150
They do.

970
00:57:56,530 --> 00:57:56,650
Yeah.

971
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:57,530
And then.

972
00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:57,650
I'm sad.

973
00:57:57,650 --> 00:57:58,410
They also have.

974
00:57:58,510 --> 00:57:59,370
They have people.

975
00:57:59,570 --> 00:58:00,630
And they had all these people.

976
00:58:00,790 --> 00:58:01,270
And Facebook.

977
00:58:01,730 --> 00:58:02,150
Oh yeah.

978
00:58:02,330 --> 00:58:02,830
And social media.

979
00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:03,150
And X.

980
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:04,090
And all these different things.

981
00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:04,470
It's like.

982
00:58:04,930 --> 00:58:05,290
Yeah.

983
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:05,810
They're everywhere.

984
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:06,710
It's everywhere.

985
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:13,870
it's everything it's really um we're gonna get dr robert epsina on this he's been one of my dream

986
00:58:13,870 --> 00:58:16,530
guests i'd love to talk to him about all this because i'm just geek out we're gonna make that

987
00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:23,210
happen yeah i hope so if you can't i'm gonna consult my crystal collection we're gonna get

988
00:58:23,210 --> 00:58:28,730
really woo woo take your palo santos then you can come down too we can do it three ways love to meet

989
00:58:28,730 --> 00:58:34,030
him i i would love to meet him they killed his wife yeah that's what uh i want to ask him about

990
00:58:34,030 --> 00:58:38,370
all that yeah yeah i don't know does he talk publicly about it i'm not sure did yeah he okay

991
00:58:38,370 --> 00:58:43,170
he's talked about it on rogan and yeah i don't know if he's saying like 100 i don't recall if

992
00:58:43,170 --> 00:58:47,770
he said 100 sure he was just he may believe it or he like it was just very coincidental

993
00:58:47,770 --> 00:58:52,130
yeah she died in a car yeah i tried to do more research on it i couldn't quite

994
00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:57,850
i couldn't find a lot of it's very circumstantial i remember him saying is that there was

995
00:58:57,850 --> 00:59:04,850
that there was manipulation with the investigation and the report.

996
00:59:05,070 --> 00:59:05,470
Right.

997
00:59:05,870 --> 00:59:09,270
And that he suspected that that was intentional.

998
00:59:09,770 --> 00:59:14,490
And when he sought to do an additional investigation,

999
00:59:14,930 --> 00:59:18,270
third-party investigation that they interfered, impeded in some way.

1000
00:59:19,110 --> 00:59:21,990
So hopefully we'll get the full story from the man himself.

1001
00:59:22,210 --> 00:59:23,530
I'd love to hear what he has to say about it.

1002
00:59:23,530 --> 00:59:26,230
I think anytime something horrible or tragic happens,

1003
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:30,210
it's you know you want to you want to find somebody to blame like i know that that's how i would feel

1004
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:34,950
if like bad things like who the fuck do i blame for this and you know sadly sometimes shit bad

1005
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:39,110
things just happen right you know what do happen so yeah but i don't know look i'm willing to

1006
00:59:39,110 --> 00:59:44,070
entertain all evidence when i researched the issue i couldn't find a smoking gun sure it just

1007
00:59:44,070 --> 00:59:48,370
it just seemed very suspicious and very circumstantial yeah and there's a lot of what i

1008
00:59:48,370 --> 00:59:55,070
understand he actually had got had gotten some insight somebody um some whistleblower spoke to

1009
00:59:55,070 --> 01:00:00,850
him and told him that so again i don't know the facts here but from what i recall from the

1010
01:00:00,850 --> 01:00:07,430
conversation he had with rogan he had significant reason to believe that it was orchestrated yeah

1011
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:13,570
i mean i don't want to bring up a terrible topic with him but would be happy to explore that if

1012
01:00:13,570 --> 01:00:18,390
he's willing to you know um yeah if i can talk to him at some point while we're on the topic i

1013
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:23,510
thought thomas massey's wife was uh you know that i thought that was very suspicious but then he

1014
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:28,870
he said you know it was it was there was no foul play yeah what did she have cancer or something

1015
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:36,210
wouldn't you say that though yeah if but but his actions you know prove otherwise yeah no thomas

1016
01:00:36,210 --> 01:00:39,910
doesn't give a fuck he would say whatever he thinks you just did yesterday he called out for

1017
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:46,470
the rob reiner thing that's true which was a little distasteful i think i think he just i mean the guy

1018
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:50,850
was murdered by his son and his wife was yeah it's a little it's just you know just say look you know

1019
01:00:50,850 --> 01:00:53,330
We didn't agree politically, but I'm so sorry for what happened.

1020
01:00:53,390 --> 01:00:53,970
That's horrible.

1021
01:00:54,350 --> 01:01:00,370
Yeah, but if you look at, like, somebody put a compilation of his tweets together, like, his, like, aggressive attacks on Trump.

1022
01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:00,850
I don't know.

1023
01:01:00,870 --> 01:01:02,670
I just feel like I want more.

1024
01:01:02,670 --> 01:01:03,570
It was not somebody.

1025
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:04,650
Like, not West.

1026
01:01:04,650 --> 01:01:06,370
I know.

1027
01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:06,890
I get it.

1028
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:09,310
It was distasteful, no doubt.

1029
01:01:09,330 --> 01:01:10,350
It was distasteful to me.

1030
01:01:10,550 --> 01:01:10,950
I read it.

1031
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:11,170
It was.

1032
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:14,270
I was kind of like, oh, this is, like, not the time to say this.

1033
01:01:14,490 --> 01:01:15,170
Like, yeah, you're right.

1034
01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:16,430
He's kind of like, you know.

1035
01:01:16,910 --> 01:01:18,470
But it just wasn't the time.

1036
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:23,050
It was like, hey, you know, just say, look, we didn't agree politically, but I'm so sorry.

1037
01:01:23,170 --> 01:01:23,950
It was a tragic death.

1038
01:01:24,010 --> 01:01:25,410
He was murdered by his own children.

1039
01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:27,250
I mean, it's just really, yeah, it's just horrible.

1040
01:01:28,890 --> 01:01:37,010
Before we move on, I do want to say, so like this idea of like someone murdering this guy's wife.

1041
01:01:38,990 --> 01:01:43,890
You know, you referenced my time with the elites and in D.C.

1042
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:46,150
I lived in D.C. for more than a decade.

1043
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:49,270
and I worked in some of these jobs.

1044
01:01:50,350 --> 01:01:53,670
You know, if you look at some of the shows that they make,

1045
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:54,750
like people used to ask me,

1046
01:01:54,810 --> 01:01:56,930
if you remember there was a show called House of Cards

1047
01:01:56,930 --> 01:01:59,250
on Netflix about like politics in DC.

1048
01:01:59,630 --> 01:02:01,230
There was a show called Scandal.

1049
01:02:01,970 --> 01:02:04,070
And if you look at these,

1050
01:02:04,490 --> 01:02:06,530
we talk about like predictive programming.

1051
01:02:07,070 --> 01:02:08,870
So when people used to ask me, for example,

1052
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:09,790
for House of Cards,

1053
01:02:09,790 --> 01:02:11,510
there was some really crazy shit that happened there,

1054
01:02:11,590 --> 01:02:14,490
including a lot of murders and like extreme stuff.

1055
01:02:14,490 --> 01:02:19,010
people would ask me like you know does this stuff really happen in dc i'm gonna ask you about the

1056
01:02:19,010 --> 01:02:22,890
sam altman situation with open ai and the guy that got murdered after this so just keep that in your

1057
01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:35,635
back pocket so absolutely it all true like in in the show scandal for example example I forget which seasons this aired like what the timeline lines up

1058
01:02:35,635 --> 01:02:43,894
But there was like this like multi for three different for a whole years of this show that's airing on like mainstream television.

1059
01:02:44,135 --> 01:02:49,195
They have this shadow government that works without the authority of the president.

1060
01:02:49,195 --> 01:02:54,015
And they like undermine the presidency and they like dictate elections.

1061
01:02:54,015 --> 01:02:58,735
That's what I'm wondering about all the shit that happened in the previous cycle.

1062
01:02:59,155 --> 01:03:02,715
Biden was the president, more so the resident.

1063
01:03:03,415 --> 01:03:07,215
I mean, the dude was clearly, obviously, was not there.

1064
01:03:07,495 --> 01:03:08,675
The auto pen was doing all these.

1065
01:03:08,894 --> 01:03:11,335
I mean, who was really signing all those things and doing all those things?

1066
01:03:11,515 --> 01:03:13,894
And the guy's like, can't even go on a five-minute bike ride.

1067
01:03:13,935 --> 01:03:15,655
He's falling on the ground and falling down the stairs.

1068
01:03:15,835 --> 01:03:18,975
And he's fucking, where am I on stage and can't respond?

1069
01:03:19,195 --> 01:03:22,015
And it's like, he's clearly incapacitated mentally.

1070
01:03:22,015 --> 01:03:26,135
yeah um like i don't think he was i don't think i don't think honestly biden was in

1071
01:03:26,135 --> 01:03:30,855
biden was like part of the the swamp for like 50 years i don't think he was i don't think he was

1072
01:03:30,855 --> 01:03:34,815
the one you know doing the doj stuff and no going after trump i don't think he was even

1073
01:03:34,815 --> 01:03:41,035
you know what i mean but i don't think he was you know actually yeah he wasn't i don't think

1074
01:03:41,035 --> 01:03:45,675
he was in charge either not even close he had no idea what was going on it was super clear yeah i

1075
01:03:45,675 --> 01:03:49,555
don't want to take you off your off your thread no i just i mean you're talking about house of

1076
01:03:49,555 --> 01:03:55,415
cards. Yeah. Anything that you think like any like there is no line that won't be crossed, right? Like

1077
01:03:55,415 --> 01:04:02,455
to a lot of people, the idea that someone's significant other might get murdered sounds

1078
01:04:02,455 --> 01:04:09,775
incomprehensible. And I just want people to understand like the degree to which not only

1079
01:04:09,775 --> 01:04:17,575
is that possible, it is probable. These things happen all the time. It is extremely likely that

1080
01:04:17,575 --> 01:04:25,635
someone as close to the absolute truth that dr epstein has gotten someone with the amount of

1081
01:04:25,635 --> 01:04:32,675
access that he had with his research and his role in google all of that i mean to me like after 20

1082
01:04:32,675 --> 01:04:37,755
years watching all of this shit and what they do i mean there there's just no doubt i don't need any

1083
01:04:37,755 --> 01:04:45,555
evidence to know i mean did they can we prove that they killed his wife you know no like you can not

1084
01:04:45,555 --> 01:04:51,275
necessarily but i mean they have without a shadow of a you just you think that you think that they

1085
01:04:51,275 --> 01:04:54,755
would say like you know if they were going to kill his wife they'd be like they give him a warning

1086
01:04:54,755 --> 01:05:00,995
first so funny you say that matt because yeah um i just went ahead and looked into it and sure

1087
01:05:00,995 --> 01:05:07,475
enough um if you want to go ahead and read this it it essentially you know it states what you

1088
01:05:07,475 --> 01:05:13,135
precisely just said there was a warning his wife misty don died after a vehicle spun out on a rain

1089
01:05:13,135 --> 01:05:18,015
slicked interstate and uh interstate 15 in california and collided with a tractor trailer

1090
01:05:18,015 --> 01:05:22,615
he has a tragic accident with no evidence of drugs alcohol or other factors average

1091
01:05:22,615 --> 01:05:28,055
2020 last year after i briefed a group of state ags about google's power to rig elections one of

1092
01:05:28,055 --> 01:05:31,815
them said i think you're going to die in an accident in a few months a few months later

1093
01:05:31,815 --> 01:05:37,475
my beautiful wife misty died in a violent death yeah i mean i i you know i can see a political

1094
01:05:37,475 --> 01:05:43,795
person being like hey like even if they didn't like hey you're gonna disappear yeah is unacceptable

1095
01:05:43,795 --> 01:05:50,275
and not only could they have it's very likely that they did you know um a lot of people are not

1096
01:05:50,275 --> 01:05:55,975
i think you are familiar with the story of general flynn and how they went after his kid oh yeah oh

1097
01:05:55,975 --> 01:06:02,135
yeah you know and i actually had a politician on here i mean you know the thing was the uh i'm trying

1098
01:06:02,135 --> 01:06:07,995
remember who it was that we talked to and i guess they um he chris collins chris collins yeah chris

1099
01:06:07,995 --> 01:06:12,435
collins chris said that uh you know he there was like some insider trading his son did with some

1100
01:06:12,435 --> 01:06:16,875
kind of thing and then they basically they used it to take him out basically i mean his son was

1101
01:06:16,875 --> 01:06:20,955
guilty i mean sure they did was kind of like you know that's what i think i think it was you know

1102
01:06:20,955 --> 01:06:25,275
there's definitely guilt there but like you know what what level of guilt do we have here is it you

1103
01:06:25,275 --> 01:06:29,635
know six month probation is your first offense do you go to jail for a year i mean those are all

1104
01:06:29,635 --> 01:06:35,235
you know reasonable outcomes but then they used it to go after him try to get him into it and he

1105
01:06:35,235 --> 01:06:38,275
basically took the fall for his son because he didn't want his son to go to jail for 10 years

1106
01:06:38,275 --> 01:06:46,055
whatever it may be and um you know yeah they can i mean i worked with a number of people in dc who

1107
01:06:46,055 --> 01:06:54,555
you know in the intelligence realm who did not wouldn't have kids and it was just like a commonly

1108
01:06:54,555 --> 01:06:56,535
known like you might

1109
01:06:56,535 --> 01:06:58,495
ask them like oh do you have kids are you gonna

1110
01:06:58,495 --> 01:07:00,475
have kids you know no I'm not gonna have kids

1111
01:07:00,475 --> 01:07:02,255
because I'm gonna continue my career

1112
01:07:02,255 --> 01:07:04,374
and you know children would be

1113
01:07:04,374 --> 01:07:06,595
too much leverage yeah I mean that

1114
01:07:06,595 --> 01:07:08,595
is like so common

1115
01:07:08,595 --> 01:07:10,115
this is just widely

1116
01:07:10,115 --> 01:07:12,775
accepted this is how they work

1117
01:07:12,775 --> 01:07:14,535
and you know you

1118
01:07:14,535 --> 01:07:16,555
see all this stuff about like politicians

1119
01:07:16,555 --> 01:07:18,655
being pedophiles and

1120
01:07:18,655 --> 01:07:20,575
it's

1121
01:07:20,575 --> 01:07:22,415
because they get elevated they take people

1122
01:07:22,415 --> 01:07:24,535
that are corruptible they corrupt

1123
01:07:24,555 --> 01:07:29,235
them and then they elevate them so that they can be controlled you know i mean these are not wild

1124
01:07:29,235 --> 01:07:33,695
theories these this is how it all works yeah i mean there would be tv shows about this kind of

1125
01:07:33,695 --> 01:07:38,055
stuff if it didn't happen you know that's based on real events and stuff that happens in political

1126
01:07:38,055 --> 01:07:43,874
games that are played and it's been it's been this way for forever yes you know yeah um you know

1127
01:07:43,874 --> 01:07:51,415
they sunk the titanic they did the towers on 9 11 i mean there's nothing they won't do you think

1128
01:07:51,415 --> 01:07:58,755
they're not going to target like one woman i mean you know yeah what what dr robert epstein is doing

1129
01:07:58,755 --> 01:08:05,035
is just like so insanely huge i just love how he brings like the evidence and he's got it on video

1130
01:08:05,035 --> 01:08:09,735
and he's got that stuff i think to me like that's amazing like the research that he's doing yeah

1131
01:08:09,735 --> 01:08:15,275
it's irrefutable it's irrefutable exactly um this one's really hard to research the flynn stuff is

1132
01:08:15,275 --> 01:08:22,655
super um there's a lot of gray area in there because there's so much propaganda that has been

1133
01:08:22,655 --> 01:08:29,915
put out uh supporting like the counter narrative that they built against Flynn so I'm not surprised

1134
01:08:29,915 --> 01:08:33,935
I mean I'm pretty sure didn't he call out all the shit that was happening in uh that like under the

1135
01:08:33,935 --> 01:08:37,635
Biden administration that Hillary Clinton they were doing they basically armed ISIS and they

1136
01:08:37,635 --> 01:08:41,195
armed the rebels it's like the United States trying to play God all over the world you know

1137
01:08:41,195 --> 01:08:42,055
We always think we're God.

1138
01:08:42,274 --> 01:08:49,334
We can perfectly, okay, you know, like we armed the Taliban when Russia was there because it's like the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

1139
01:08:49,435 --> 01:08:52,015
It's like, no, the enemy of your enemy is not always your fucking friend.

1140
01:08:52,235 --> 01:08:53,874
But let's send them a pallet of cash anyway.

1141
01:08:55,155 --> 01:08:58,215
You know, the enemy of your enemy is probably still the enemy a lot of times.

1142
01:08:58,274 --> 01:08:59,855
And they might even be worse than your original enemy.

1143
01:08:59,855 --> 01:09:00,595
It's like the devil.

1144
01:09:00,695 --> 01:09:05,995
That's why there's that phrase that's held true for a very long time, that the devil you know is often better than the devil you don't.

1145
01:09:05,995 --> 01:09:12,774
so so basically i think flun blew the whistle on all of the the cash and the weapons and shit that

1146
01:09:12,774 --> 01:09:17,575
we gave to the islamic rebels to find assad and then basically they used all that and they turned

1147
01:09:17,575 --> 01:09:20,774
into isis and they created their caliphate where they were chopping people's heads off and doing

1148
01:09:20,774 --> 01:09:24,915
all sorts of crazy stuff so you know it's just kind of crazy that's that was my understanding

1149
01:09:24,915 --> 01:09:29,195
of why they went after him but what do you know about it no i that's all accurate and then the

1150
01:09:29,195 --> 01:09:34,955
russia the like i think he also blew the whistle on the beginning formation of like the russia

1151
01:09:34,955 --> 01:09:41,095
stuff um and there's a really good he put his own documentary together for those that are not

1152
01:09:41,095 --> 01:09:48,155
familiar with what happened with Flynn um and I think it's called just Flynn it's just the name

1153
01:09:48,155 --> 01:09:53,815
of the documentary you can watch it uh on Apple TV uh but they used his son they arrested his son

1154
01:09:53,815 --> 01:09:59,115
brought charges you know uh they they went after him and ultimately ended up like going after his

1155
01:09:59,115 --> 01:10:04,495
son and I think they got him that way that's how they got Chris Collins too yeah yeah so like

1156
01:10:04,495 --> 01:10:10,274
it's just that this is so common I guess is like what I would scream from the rooftops is is not

1157
01:10:10,274 --> 01:10:14,975
even necessarily you know people get hung up on like I'll use Flynn as an example oh I don't like

1158
01:10:14,975 --> 01:10:20,495
Flynn or Epstein is a good example because like you said there's so much data and it's also

1159
01:10:20,495 --> 01:10:28,215
he's not really political he's never really um but it's not about any single person right it's

1160
01:10:28,215 --> 01:10:33,475
just the fact that these things are commonplace is to me like the thing that I want people to

1161
01:10:33,475 --> 01:10:41,755
understand interesting wow because people think it's it's like most people think it's not possible

1162
01:10:41,755 --> 01:10:49,975
and again like it's not only possible it's probable like these things are common politics

1163
01:10:49,975 --> 01:10:54,715
is such a dirty game i try to i ran for like mosquito control when i was like 18 did you

1164
01:10:54,715 --> 01:10:58,874
really i did yeah in florida yep no right here yeah it was like my motto was fight the bite

1165
01:10:58,874 --> 01:11:05,515
And like the amount of like the amount of like just disgusting human behavior I witnessed just mosquito control.

1166
01:11:05,755 --> 01:11:06,155
Wow.

1167
01:11:06,155 --> 01:11:12,075
All of the drama and county commissioners coming up talking to me and telling me like, oh, my God, I don't like your opponent, blah, blah, blah.

1168
01:11:12,115 --> 01:11:14,215
And then like the next day they go in the paper and endorse the opponent.

1169
01:11:14,535 --> 01:11:19,315
Like this bitch just sat with me for 30 minutes and told me how she doesn't like X, Y and Z.

1170
01:11:19,395 --> 01:11:21,615
And then she goes in the in the paper and endorses my opponents.

1171
01:11:21,755 --> 01:11:22,495
Like, what?

1172
01:11:22,734 --> 01:11:23,015
Right.

1173
01:11:23,535 --> 01:11:24,615
It's like, why even come up to me?

1174
01:11:24,675 --> 01:11:27,795
I just I just saw so much like shady behavior.

1175
01:11:27,795 --> 01:11:32,234
just like just in mosquito it was like just disgusting you tell me you're gonna take gates

1176
01:11:32,234 --> 01:11:37,455
down i just said i was i can't remember what i said i think i think my whole motto was i wanted

1177
01:11:37,455 --> 01:11:42,334
to because like lee county yeah i'd put like uh they put minnows in the ditches okay the larva

1178
01:11:42,334 --> 01:11:46,575
yeah so that was like what i was promoting i was like hey we're doing all the spraying but we don't

1179
01:11:46,575 --> 01:11:51,834
why don't we use minnows too right but that was my whole campaign was like yeah just like why don't

1180
01:11:51,834 --> 01:11:55,135
we just drop some minnows in all these ditches we have in naples like right so many ditches that

1181
01:11:55,135 --> 01:11:58,915
full of water and that's where all the mosquitoes are breeding like just throw like 100 minnows in

1182
01:11:58,915 --> 01:12:03,535
each one and that makes sense to me you probably won't have to spray as much ddt or whatever the

1183
01:12:03,535 --> 01:12:07,374
hell they're just spraying all over everybody and i'm like why am i growing a third ear

1184
01:12:07,374 --> 01:12:13,874
you know what do it put minnows there it was pretty simple uh you know oh that's amazing yeah

1185
01:12:13,874 --> 01:12:17,834
i was like well how are we going to do that i'm like well we have a huge you know i'm looking at

1186
01:12:17,834 --> 01:12:21,055
the budget i'm like because you could look at the budget and you can see what the mosquito

1187
01:12:21,055 --> 01:12:25,515
control budget wings and i was like there's all this unnecessary shit it's like you could you could

1188
01:12:25,515 --> 01:12:30,255
with 50 grand you could make a giant like swimming pool in one of the right the helicopter hangers

1189
01:12:30,255 --> 01:12:33,135
and you could just grow a bunch of minnows in there and then you just scoop them in and just

1190
01:12:33,135 --> 01:12:36,755
go drop them in all the ditches yeah i was just i was like it's not that hard like oh it's too

1191
01:12:36,755 --> 01:12:40,895
expensive to grow i'm like it's not very expensive to grow minnows you you make a little tank and you

1192
01:12:40,895 --> 01:12:46,234
throw a bunch of uh you know dope pen in there and then in a week there'll be 5 000 right right

1193
01:12:46,695 --> 01:12:47,515
Oh my gosh.

1194
01:12:47,575 --> 01:12:48,515
Wait, so you didn't win?

1195
01:12:48,715 --> 01:12:49,575
No, I didn't win.

1196
01:12:49,815 --> 01:12:50,115
I didn't.

1197
01:12:50,135 --> 01:12:51,255
The corrupt guy won.

1198
01:12:51,355 --> 01:12:52,095
So the guy.

1199
01:12:52,274 --> 01:12:53,274
Because he made deals and shit.

1200
01:12:53,374 --> 01:12:53,615
No, no.

1201
01:12:53,855 --> 01:12:56,615
Well, yeah, the guy, that guy never actually had run the election.

1202
01:12:56,734 --> 01:12:58,195
That was one of the reasons I ran against him.

1203
01:12:58,215 --> 01:12:58,795
He was appointed.

1204
01:12:59,255 --> 01:12:59,515
Okay.

1205
01:12:59,655 --> 01:13:01,015
So a lot of these things can be appointed.

1206
01:13:01,274 --> 01:13:02,655
They don't have to ever run against anybody.

1207
01:13:02,774 --> 01:13:04,395
They're just appointed by the governor or whatever.

1208
01:13:05,055 --> 01:13:09,195
So this guy, I mean, you know, I didn't know too much about the guy.

1209
01:13:09,255 --> 01:13:10,295
So somebody got appointed.

1210
01:13:10,415 --> 01:13:11,135
So somebody got appointed.

1211
01:13:11,135 --> 01:13:13,575
But then what I didn't realize and what I should have researched.

1212
01:13:13,575 --> 01:13:18,274
this was my uh high school guidance counselor he was like pushing me to do this yeah good guy

1213
01:13:18,274 --> 01:13:25,115
and he is you know he was uh very politically motivated here locally and i think his wife uh

1214
01:13:25,115 --> 01:13:32,334
was like a cut like cousins with john f kennedy okay so she was like uh basically helped him win

1215
01:13:32,334 --> 01:13:36,175
his election way back in the day and they were very very great people he shows me pictures he's

1216
01:13:36,175 --> 01:13:40,834
with martin luther king jr and he's just um his name's neil neil curly so hopefully he rests in

1217
01:13:40,834 --> 01:13:45,935
piece uh he recently passed the past two years about two years ago sadly um but great man great

1218
01:13:45,935 --> 01:13:52,055
family uh his wife joan was she was fantastic as well but uh yeah he was kind of just like hey you

1219
01:13:52,055 --> 01:13:57,015
should care about being civically minded and engaged and do something and he's like look he's

1220
01:13:57,015 --> 01:14:00,955
like here's a here's a perfect opportunity you know you're that you're in college and you know

1221
01:14:00,955 --> 01:14:04,715
you can you can make an impact here and you can contribute to the to the county this way i was

1222
01:14:04,715 --> 01:14:07,855
like okay i'll you know i'll i'll do it if you will be my campaign manager he's like yeah i'll

1223
01:14:07,855 --> 01:14:14,175
be your campaign manager so so we did it and uh what i didn't what i didn't research was that

1224
01:14:14,175 --> 01:14:18,575
um if you look at the mosquito control council it's like there's like five people or whatever

1225
01:14:18,575 --> 01:14:24,315
and like all their last names are like the first five letters of the alphabet yeah so it's so far

1226
01:14:24,315 --> 01:14:29,535
down the list that the first name voter advantage is so insane that like 99 of the time whoever's

1227
01:14:29,535 --> 01:14:34,315
first always wins and so they they list it alphabetically so if like your name is like

1228
01:14:34,315 --> 01:14:40,535
you know if your last name is like bob or or apple or you know dave or whatever it may be like so i'm

1229
01:14:40,535 --> 01:14:44,655
looking at the board it's like all so i didn't realize that like yeah nobody had won this election

1230
01:14:44,655 --> 01:14:48,774
as the second name in like 50 years or something because nobody's paying attention yeah yeah exactly

1231
01:14:48,774 --> 01:14:52,274
nobody's paying attention so people are like oh what the hell is mosquito control right how are

1232
01:14:52,274 --> 01:14:57,815
these lower races people just like they just fill out the first bubble right so huh so they don't

1233
01:14:57,815 --> 01:15:06,015
feel stupid so yeah i didn't mean like that's the kind of shit that if people were involved it'd be

1234
01:15:06,015 --> 01:15:10,435
easy to fix you know what i mean like i don't know put each election every ballot yeah there

1235
01:15:10,435 --> 01:15:13,874
should be two separate there should be two separate ballots every time to eliminate that

1236
01:15:13,874 --> 01:15:17,415
first name voter advantage all of the ballots some of the ballots should have the second person's

1237
01:15:17,415 --> 01:15:22,095
name first you should do 50 50 that way like that can't interfere right there you go actively select

1238
01:15:22,095 --> 01:15:26,295
the person that's how they should deal with that type of stuff yeah right i mean there's a reason

1239
01:15:26,295 --> 01:15:34,715
right like a republic if you can keep it i mean we have very nearly lost it and so this idea that

1240
01:15:34,715 --> 01:15:39,975
like oh you know don't do anything because it's not gonna fucking matter like no it can matter

1241
01:15:39,975 --> 01:15:44,635
like there's so much common sense to be had like if we could just deploy some common sense

1242
01:15:44,635 --> 01:15:50,535
you know like put minnows in the pond it's not rocket it was not rocket science it was a very

1243
01:15:50,535 --> 01:15:53,855
simple thing and they're like well this will never work i'm like well there's plenty of other counties

1244
01:15:53,855 --> 01:15:58,374
that are actually doing this and it's working right imagine like you had you know and people

1245
01:15:58,374 --> 01:16:02,935
get like discouraged it is discouraging like oh i have to have an a last name or some bullshit

1246
01:16:02,935 --> 01:16:08,274
no like just fix that like go and fix that and i know that it's annoying and it's been you know

1247
01:16:08,274 --> 01:16:11,495
we've been through this sigh up of like oh it doesn't matter and it's not cool and all that

1248
01:16:11,495 --> 01:16:18,515
bullshit but like these things are fixable none of it is rocket science like i don't know fix it or

1249
01:16:18,515 --> 01:16:24,175
will we ever get fair elections again that's one of my favorite conspiracy theories that i

1250
01:16:24,175 --> 01:16:29,734
vehemently believe in do you think that we will no i don't know i mean until we get it on a

1251
01:16:29,734 --> 01:16:35,395
blockchain or use something like what uh i think it's what is uh if only simple proof something

1252
01:16:35,395 --> 01:16:40,115
like um carlos toriello have you seen his simple proof no oh yes take the results at all the

1253
01:16:40,115 --> 01:16:44,535
precincts and they they they hash the image into a hash and they put it on the on block so you don't

1254
01:16:44,535 --> 01:16:50,155
even need to do that like use a fucking piece of paper florida has paper ballots we get all of our

1255
01:16:50,155 --> 01:16:56,615
votes counted on the same night like presidential elections same night yeah done like you know no

1256
01:16:56,615 --> 01:17:01,175
it can be done that way absolutely done paper ballot like you know and sure there's fraud that

1257
01:17:01,175 --> 01:17:04,815
can be done there but they've got two weeks to count the votes and all this stuff that shit's

1258
01:17:04,815 --> 01:17:09,095
got to stop right that shit has to stop right i mean that's totally corrupt yeah even if it's not

1259
01:17:09,095 --> 01:17:14,095
nobody's gonna believe it because it's just it's the appearance of it is so bad yeah yeah and then

1260
01:17:14,095 --> 01:17:18,055
they're just you know drop boxes and mail-in ballots and there's these mules going out

1261
01:17:18,055 --> 01:17:21,135
everywhere just collecting like i think in california they just send ballots everywhere

1262
01:17:21,135 --> 01:17:25,175
so people just go around to different addresses and just pick up 100 chunks then they don't

1263
01:17:25,175 --> 01:17:29,515
verify the signature i mean the whole thing is just bullshit you know yeah well with in places

1264
01:17:29,515 --> 01:17:34,715
where it's structured like california versus florida i think is a really good example because

1265
01:17:34,715 --> 01:17:41,874
there is still like in california it's absolutely like there's fraud everywhere but it can matter if

1266
01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:46,855
you just maintain like a little bit of control over the structure of what's happening right like

1267
01:17:46,855 --> 01:17:52,774
in florida we show a license you have to be a fucking person with a license and you use a piece

1268
01:17:52,774 --> 01:17:59,615
of paper and the paper gets counted and like there there's nothing i mean and then you look at for

1269
01:17:59,615 --> 01:18:05,755
like california is all piles and piles of ballots right but like they could fix it they could go and

1270
01:18:05,755 --> 01:18:12,155
take over and demand that this shit gets fixed and who could become more like florida who could

1271
01:18:12,155 --> 01:18:17,395
fix it like the people oh the people lots of republicans or people that are not really they've

1272
01:18:17,395 --> 01:18:22,975
imported like fucking well at this million aliens there yeah i mean i really think we're at a point

1273
01:18:22,975 --> 01:18:29,495
where like if it's not fixed now yeah that's how i felt this past election i was like this is it i

1274
01:18:29,495 --> 01:18:33,895
mean if you can't you know and i think uh elon was saying the same thing he was like it's just so bad

1275
01:18:33,895 --> 01:18:37,175
that they're bringing in so many people

1276
01:18:37,175 --> 01:18:38,855
and the voting procedures and all this.

1277
01:18:38,915 --> 01:18:40,874
It's just so captured.

1278
01:18:41,095 --> 01:18:42,815
I mean, it's just so...

1279
01:18:42,815 --> 01:18:44,995
We either go radical now.

1280
01:18:45,055 --> 01:18:45,635
Yeah, you have to.

1281
01:18:45,715 --> 01:18:47,895
Like either the Trump's election,

1282
01:18:48,135 --> 01:18:50,015
winning the popular vote,

1283
01:18:50,255 --> 01:18:51,615
all of that,

1284
01:18:51,975 --> 01:18:53,374
either that was like a turning point

1285
01:18:53,374 --> 01:18:56,155
where people dial up the radicalness

1286
01:18:56,155 --> 01:18:57,655
and take the country back,

1287
01:18:57,734 --> 01:18:58,655
or it's gone.

1288
01:18:58,834 --> 01:18:59,855
We have a uniparty.

1289
01:18:59,915 --> 01:19:01,215
They've imported enough voters.

1290
01:19:01,815 --> 01:19:03,195
And if that happens,

1291
01:19:03,195 --> 01:19:10,095
then okay like i give up i agree voting will not matter but we i still believe that like the system

1292
01:19:10,095 --> 01:19:16,055
can be reformed and that i mean we could have a convention of states we can require voter id

1293
01:19:16,055 --> 01:19:21,175
you know there's things that could be done but people have to do something they can't just like

1294
01:19:21,175 --> 01:19:25,295
just want to throw in so important what you're saying and that something that's been circulating

1295
01:19:25,295 --> 01:19:31,515
recently is this idea of referendum states and how you can collect like 10 000 signatures and

1296
01:19:31,515 --> 01:19:38,395
that's it and you can have this initiative this citizens initiative to literally modify state law

1297
01:19:38,395 --> 01:19:45,795
and you could actually require a blockchain voting mechanism or just vote or just license

1298
01:19:45,795 --> 01:19:48,915
what are you talking about what are you talking about is this something that's in the constitution

1299
01:19:48,915 --> 01:19:53,555
that the federal government says that so apparently there's like multiple referendum states and i

1300
01:19:53,555 --> 01:19:58,215
think florida's one of them i'll find out but because usually what they do is that like they'll

1301
01:19:58,215 --> 01:20:02,395
do that they'll do that but then they'll put it on the next ballot as like a an amendment or

1302
01:20:02,395 --> 01:20:06,874
something what's it called like a yes or no or something like that yeah in in florida i think

1303
01:20:06,874 --> 01:20:11,655
so we do see a lot of that i think in florida because every every time i vote i always see

1304
01:20:11,655 --> 01:20:16,015
vote yes or vote no on amendment 14 and yes or vote no on amendment 15 it's like you can

1305
01:20:16,015 --> 01:20:24,415
i don't know if that's this or there are there are like structures in place so that people can

1306
01:20:24,415 --> 01:20:26,555
force change to the

1307
01:20:26,555 --> 01:20:27,895
state constitutions.

1308
01:20:28,455 --> 01:20:30,234
And then the states also, you can do

1309
01:20:30,234 --> 01:20:31,575
a convention of states.

1310
01:20:33,155 --> 01:20:34,655
The floor is a partially

1311
01:20:34,655 --> 01:20:35,635
referendum state.

1312
01:20:37,274 --> 01:20:38,595
So it allows

1313
01:20:38,595 --> 01:20:40,195
citizens to initiate a constitutional amendment

1314
01:20:40,195 --> 01:20:41,615
through a ballot initiative process.

1315
01:20:42,415 --> 01:20:44,475
So it looks like they can collect signatures

1316
01:20:44,475 --> 01:20:46,415
to propose amendments, and then it goes

1317
01:20:46,415 --> 01:20:47,935
directly to the voters on the ballot.

1318
01:20:51,595 --> 01:20:52,555
Yeah, they need

1319
01:20:52,555 --> 01:20:53,374
60% approval.

1320
01:20:54,135 --> 01:20:57,374
Recent examples include amendments on abortion rights and marijuana in 2024.

1321
01:20:58,155 --> 01:21:00,255
However, Florida does not allow citizen...

1322
01:21:00,255 --> 01:21:00,995
Go back up a little bit.

1323
01:21:01,075 --> 01:21:01,895
I want to see what they don't allow.

1324
01:21:02,475 --> 01:21:04,374
It does not allow citizen...

1325
01:21:06,374 --> 01:21:07,734
Statutes.

1326
01:21:10,115 --> 01:21:10,595
Statutes.

1327
01:21:11,315 --> 01:21:13,874
Okay, new regular laws or veto referendums.

1328
01:21:13,874 --> 01:21:18,234
So like this yes for citizen initiated changes to the Constitution, right?

1329
01:21:18,435 --> 01:21:21,215
So when you look at all this voter fraud that happened,

1330
01:21:21,215 --> 01:21:37,215
One thing in Pennsylvania that happened is that the legislator or whatever body it was going into 2020, they made a state constant, a change to the state constitution to allow for all those mail in ballots because it was not constitutional.

1331
01:21:37,535 --> 01:21:37,635
Yeah.

1332
01:21:37,915 --> 01:21:44,915
And so like that shit needs to be stripped back away so that the people of Pennsylvania can vote in a way that matters.

1333
01:21:44,915 --> 01:21:45,234
Right.

1334
01:21:45,834 --> 01:21:47,655
Well, they caught those mules this time.

1335
01:21:47,774 --> 01:21:48,055
Yeah.

1336
01:21:48,055 --> 01:21:50,215
Thousands of fake ballots like the last day.

1337
01:21:50,515 --> 01:21:51,815
Did you see that?

1338
01:21:51,834 --> 01:21:52,415
In Pennsylvania?

1339
01:21:52,675 --> 01:21:53,915
What never happens happened again.

1340
01:21:54,555 --> 01:21:54,755
Right.

1341
01:21:54,995 --> 01:21:56,455
So many coincidences.

1342
01:21:56,635 --> 01:21:57,495
So many coincidences.

1343
01:21:57,555 --> 01:21:57,795
Right.

1344
01:21:58,295 --> 01:21:58,495
Right.

1345
01:21:59,255 --> 01:22:01,234
No, people, you know, people, I don't know.

1346
01:22:01,295 --> 01:22:02,415
I take a lot of heat.

1347
01:22:02,575 --> 01:22:04,234
Everybody's like, oh, vote harder.

1348
01:22:04,575 --> 01:22:09,374
And I'm just like, okay, like be ruled by a blue haired far left citizen.

1349
01:22:09,695 --> 01:22:11,655
You know, like, I don't know.

1350
01:22:11,695 --> 01:22:13,655
I just, I think the time is now.

1351
01:22:13,655 --> 01:22:17,274
Like either we get involved and we take the country back or it's gone.

1352
01:22:17,274 --> 01:22:20,635
and thank God for dentists in Florida.

1353
01:22:20,915 --> 01:22:22,555
How does states' rights play into all this?

1354
01:22:22,615 --> 01:22:24,495
Because I'm so happy to be in Florida.

1355
01:22:24,915 --> 01:22:26,655
If people in Seattle or whatever,

1356
01:22:26,755 --> 01:22:29,234
they want to live like that and have total craziness,

1357
01:22:29,334 --> 01:22:30,535
the inmates ruling the asylum,

1358
01:22:30,655 --> 01:22:32,295
part of me is like, okay, let them do it.

1359
01:22:32,455 --> 01:22:33,915
Let them do your thing.

1360
01:22:34,915 --> 01:22:37,115
The only problem, though, that I have

1361
01:22:37,115 --> 01:22:39,834
is my tax dollars going to the federal government.

1362
01:22:39,834 --> 01:22:40,895
And then the federal government,

1363
01:22:41,055 --> 01:22:44,035
we're paying for half of Somaliland right now in Somalia

1364
01:22:44,035 --> 01:22:45,135
and all these places over there

1365
01:22:45,135 --> 01:22:47,295
because of the massive fraud that's hurting going in Minnesota.

1366
01:22:47,695 --> 01:22:50,035
So I'm like, if they want to do it, I'm fine with it.

1367
01:22:50,075 --> 01:22:51,774
But don't take our money to do it.

1368
01:22:51,774 --> 01:22:51,915
Right.

1369
01:22:52,355 --> 01:22:54,495
Well, I think they should abolish the federal income tax.

1370
01:22:54,595 --> 01:22:55,834
Yeah, I think so, too.

1371
01:22:56,035 --> 01:22:57,415
Goes without a shadow of a doubt.

1372
01:22:57,515 --> 01:23:04,355
And my only like caution with that, like, I feel like DeSantis is like our last line of defense.

1373
01:23:04,675 --> 01:23:05,795
He's such a good governor.

1374
01:23:05,995 --> 01:23:07,075
He's such a good like an administrator.

1375
01:23:07,615 --> 01:23:09,755
Imagine you're living under Newsom.

1376
01:23:10,075 --> 01:23:10,695
Oh, man.

1377
01:23:11,334 --> 01:23:11,595
Right.

1378
01:23:11,734 --> 01:23:14,555
I mean, there's like you mentioned Seattle, which is a cesspool.

1379
01:23:14,555 --> 01:23:19,274
But there are people that live in the state of Washington that are not complete fucking tics.

1380
01:23:19,615 --> 01:23:19,995
Like...

1381
01:23:20,020 --> 01:23:22,220
Like what happens in Florida after DeSantis?

1382
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:23,280
Like, could you imagine?

1383
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,540
I mean, I think is, who are we going to get after him?

1384
01:23:27,620 --> 01:23:28,860
Is it, will it be Byron Donald?

1385
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:29,280
Byron?

1386
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:30,200
I like Byron.

1387
01:23:30,540 --> 01:23:32,880
There's a lot of psyops happening already though.

1388
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:33,840
I know Byron actually.

1389
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:34,240
So much.

1390
01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:36,920
I mean, I was telling you my political story.

1391
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:37,420
Yeah, yeah.

1392
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,880
So I told you how I ran for mosquito control.

1393
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,880
Actually, I saw Byron.

1394
01:23:41,980 --> 01:23:43,320
He's a good big Bitcoin guy.

1395
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:44,700
He was at the Bitcoin conference.

1396
01:23:44,860 --> 01:23:46,420
And I was like, I talked to him.

1397
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,980
I was like, I told the story because the very first mic,

1398
01:23:50,020 --> 01:23:51,540
I told you about Neil, my mentor.

1399
01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:56,400
He's like, you got to go to talk to, you got to go to like these events, these like campaign events.

1400
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:02,880
So like the very first event I ever went to, I was with Byron and we, he was running for, I can't remember what it was.

1401
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:05,960
It was like county commissioner or something.

1402
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,760
It was like his first kind of like foray into politics.

1403
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:09,940
It was mine too.

1404
01:24:10,140 --> 01:24:13,620
And he, we show up at Perkins and it's just like me and him.

1405
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,620
And like, he's like a skinny, he's really skinny.

1406
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,820
And like, I was really, I was like much more fit and skinny.

1407
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:22,900
I'm still like strong, but like I didn't have like a, you know, this.

1408
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:23,940
You got kids.

1409
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:24,480
Yeah, I got kids.

1410
01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:30,320
So when I saw him, I was like, I was like, yo, we both put on.

1411
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,260
What year was this?

1412
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,320
This was like 20.

1413
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:34,540
No, when you first met him.

1414
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:35,340
Oh, this was like 20.

1415
01:24:35,460 --> 01:24:38,600
I want to say between like maybe like 2012, 2011, 2013.

1416
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:39,120
Yeah.

1417
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:40,900
This was like, you know, a decade ago.

1418
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:41,360
Yeah.

1419
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:44,180
And like we walk into Perkins, it's just like me and Byron.

1420
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,960
And there's like just five, like 70 to 90 year old ladies.

1421
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,360
Yes.

1422
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,420
And that's all it was.

1423
01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:53,260
so it was like me and byron just like talking to these old ladies is like yeah like i want to put

1424
01:24:53,260 --> 01:24:58,780
minnows in the fucking in the thing they're like oh that's so nice and byron's like talking his

1425
01:24:58,780 --> 01:25:03,340
stuff and like so i reminded him like you i'm like he's like oh my god he's like i remember that

1426
01:25:03,340 --> 01:25:08,840
and i'm like and he's like everything runs through the old ladies yeah that's what he told me i was

1427
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,900
like you're so right oh my god no people ask me all the time like who uses your bitcoin atms the

1428
01:25:13,900 --> 01:25:14,740
Old ladies do.

1429
01:25:14,740 --> 01:25:15,900
Yeah.

1430
01:25:15,900 --> 01:25:16,860
Isn't that wild?

1431
01:25:16,860 --> 01:25:18,180
Are you gonna run for Congress

1432
01:25:18,180 --> 01:25:19,740
when Byron becomes our next governor

1433
01:25:19,740 --> 01:25:20,980
and a seat is vacant?

1434
01:25:20,980 --> 01:25:21,820
Am I gonna run?

1435
01:25:21,820 --> 01:25:33,373
No Why not I disgusted with being part of like I realized when I ran for mosquito control and I wouldn talk about them I do not want But then who But I like this I like this I like being able to have a microphone and talk about it and do stuff

1436
01:25:33,473 --> 01:25:33,893
You know what I mean?

1437
01:25:34,073 --> 01:25:35,093
So yeah, I don't know.

1438
01:25:35,173 --> 01:25:36,613
I think they'll find some good-

1439
01:25:36,613 --> 01:25:38,713
I have no desire to be involved.

1440
01:25:38,713 --> 01:25:38,873
I know.

1441
01:25:39,093 --> 01:25:39,633
I understand.

1442
01:25:39,833 --> 01:25:40,693
I feel the same way.

1443
01:25:41,193 --> 01:25:41,633
Who knows?

1444
01:25:41,673 --> 01:25:42,413
That could change in the future.

1445
01:25:42,533 --> 01:25:43,173
But as I am now,

1446
01:25:43,253 --> 01:25:44,413
I do care about what's happening,

1447
01:25:44,513 --> 01:25:46,713
but I think I can effectuate change in other ways.

1448
01:25:47,173 --> 01:25:47,393
Sure.

1449
01:25:47,713 --> 01:25:50,153
Did you guys see James O'Keefe's tweet

1450
01:25:50,153 --> 01:25:51,453
about this subject recently?

1451
01:25:51,793 --> 01:25:52,093
No.

1452
01:25:52,353 --> 01:25:54,333
he really hits it on the head,

1453
01:25:54,493 --> 01:25:58,273
essentially just saying that if you're not willing to get some skin in the

1454
01:25:58,273 --> 01:25:58,573
game,

1455
01:25:58,573 --> 01:25:59,593
then like,

1456
01:25:59,593 --> 01:26:01,693
we really can't complain about how bad it is.

1457
01:26:01,993 --> 01:26:02,353
Right.

1458
01:26:02,413 --> 01:26:02,753
But he,

1459
01:26:02,753 --> 01:26:03,693
he literally said like,

1460
01:26:03,713 --> 01:26:04,373
if you don't want to,

1461
01:26:04,473 --> 01:26:06,053
if you're not willing to put your neck on the line,

1462
01:26:06,333 --> 01:26:07,173
I feel that way.

1463
01:26:07,433 --> 01:26:07,933
And yeah,

1464
01:26:07,933 --> 01:26:08,873
I'm confronted with the,

1465
01:26:08,873 --> 01:26:10,773
having a podcast is putting your neck on the line.

1466
01:26:10,933 --> 01:26:11,193
Oh yeah.

1467
01:26:11,313 --> 01:26:11,493
No,

1468
01:26:11,613 --> 01:26:11,773
you,

1469
01:26:12,033 --> 01:26:12,593
you know,

1470
01:26:12,653 --> 01:26:13,053
absolutely.

1471
01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:15,373
I'll send political donations to candidates.

1472
01:26:15,473 --> 01:26:15,793
I like,

1473
01:26:15,853 --> 01:26:16,933
and people I like and stuff,

1474
01:26:17,053 --> 01:26:17,253
you know,

1475
01:26:17,293 --> 01:26:18,593
I'll do it that way.

1476
01:26:18,653 --> 01:26:19,313
But as of right now,

1477
01:26:19,373 --> 01:26:19,493
I,

1478
01:26:19,553 --> 01:26:21,753
I was want to be the candidate.

1479
01:26:21,753 --> 01:26:39,773
I respect it. You got your lane. But the point he was making was that if you aren't ever put in a position where you are faced with the challenge of whether or not to do the right thing or risk yours or your family's life, right?

1480
01:26:40,333 --> 01:26:49,533
Then until that moment, you really don't have the grounds to judge, right? Because unless you're in that position, who knows what decision you'll make.

1481
01:26:49,533 --> 01:26:49,673
Right.

1482
01:26:50,093 --> 01:26:51,213
Yeah, true. Good point.

1483
01:26:51,753 --> 01:26:57,793
yeah it's true yeah hey i took china kickback money when you how did that work well after we

1484
01:26:57,793 --> 01:27:01,233
toured the ghost cities you know what i mean we all went home and pretended they were 30 percent

1485
01:27:01,233 --> 01:27:10,073
occupied and collected our bonus checks oh that's classic oh yes 30 percent occupied meanwhile like

1486
01:27:10,073 --> 01:27:13,913
landing in a helicopter in the middle of the street and there's one guy with a room who's

1487
01:27:13,913 --> 01:27:18,993
never seen another human in his life why don't we yes we have all the homeless people here man

1488
01:27:18,993 --> 01:27:20,293
why don't we send the Somalis there?

1489
01:27:20,393 --> 01:27:20,793
Wouldn't that be,

1490
01:27:20,793 --> 01:27:23,213
maybe Trump can negotiate that.

1491
01:27:23,733 --> 01:27:24,613
That would be a good deal.

1492
01:27:25,053 --> 01:27:25,453
Hey,

1493
01:27:25,513 --> 01:27:25,773
China,

1494
01:27:25,893 --> 01:27:28,513
we'll take off these tariffs and you just take like 50,

1495
01:27:28,713 --> 01:27:41,167
5 million Somalians Put them in the ghost cities That sounds like a great deal Wow Somebody negotiate that Yeah Don they like make they recreate like you know different places than China too

1496
01:27:41,167 --> 01:27:41,287
Oh,

1497
01:27:41,347 --> 01:27:41,607
yes.

1498
01:27:41,847 --> 01:27:42,007
Disneyland.

1499
01:27:42,287 --> 01:27:43,387
So maybe they can just,

1500
01:27:43,427 --> 01:27:44,687
it's like nicer than ours.

1501
01:27:44,787 --> 01:27:46,707
They can recreate Somaliland there too.

1502
01:27:46,787 --> 01:27:47,027
And then just,

1503
01:27:47,027 --> 01:27:47,967
that would be perfect.

1504
01:27:48,067 --> 01:27:48,407
I love,

1505
01:27:48,487 --> 01:27:49,227
you're in charge.

1506
01:27:49,447 --> 01:27:50,167
I love them.

1507
01:27:50,807 --> 01:27:51,867
Oh my gosh.

1508
01:27:52,307 --> 01:27:52,427
Well,

1509
01:27:52,427 --> 01:27:53,367
they said the Buccaneer.

1510
01:27:53,367 --> 01:27:53,787
I actually,

1511
01:27:53,967 --> 01:27:55,567
I actually watched like,

1512
01:27:55,927 --> 01:27:56,167
you know,

1513
01:27:56,207 --> 01:27:57,507
the situation is so messed up,

1514
01:27:57,607 --> 01:27:57,867
you know,

1515
01:27:57,907 --> 01:27:58,427
like,

1516
01:27:58,427 --> 01:28:01,687
i think there was one like somalian who was like blowing the whistle on it did you see him he was

1517
01:28:01,687 --> 01:28:05,547
like talking about how like they have no desire to assimilate most they don't he's like he's like

1518
01:28:05,547 --> 01:28:09,487
when i got here i was like well he basically wanted to get a job and like do stuff and like

1519
01:28:09,487 --> 01:28:13,767
literally the whole community was like no don't do that just get this get the get on the government

1520
01:28:13,767 --> 01:28:18,767
paycheck and do this and get the grants and whatever yeah and he's like no like i didn't

1521
01:28:18,767 --> 01:28:22,627
come here to do this i came here to assimilate yeah so he was like blowing the whistle on it yeah so

1522
01:28:22,627 --> 01:28:27,547
So that's why I really don't like the idea of identity politics.

1523
01:28:27,787 --> 01:28:29,127
I don't like that.

1524
01:28:29,207 --> 01:28:32,307
I like that people can be their own individuals.

1525
01:28:32,307 --> 01:28:37,327
I always fall back to this thing of the individual is the ultimate minority.

1526
01:28:37,667 --> 01:28:38,527
I love that quote.

1527
01:28:38,867 --> 01:28:40,447
It's like we have to protect the individual.

1528
01:28:40,947 --> 01:28:45,527
Because just because you're this race or this sex or this ethnicity or this whatever it may be,

1529
01:28:46,167 --> 01:28:47,867
yes, you can look at trends and patterns.

1530
01:28:47,867 --> 01:28:52,927
and certain, if you judge people as a population, patterns emerge, behavior patterns.

1531
01:28:53,067 --> 01:28:56,887
But that doesn't mean there aren't individuals in each race or each subset or each thing that

1532
01:28:56,887 --> 01:29:02,207
can be themselves and they could be different than the majority or whatever, right?

1533
01:29:02,207 --> 01:29:07,347
So I think it's so important to still treat people as individuals because some of the

1534
01:29:07,347 --> 01:29:10,347
Somalis themselves were the biggest whistleblowers on this whole issue.

1535
01:29:10,427 --> 01:29:10,627
Right, right.

1536
01:29:10,667 --> 01:29:12,207
And that's important, you know what I mean?

1537
01:29:12,447 --> 01:29:16,367
Because nobody knows the inside details more than insiders.

1538
01:29:16,367 --> 01:29:25,167
So, no, I completely agree. Like, I'm not against all Somalis categorically. It's the ones that are not assimilating. It's the ones in which is seems like the majority of that group.

1539
01:29:25,227 --> 01:29:33,407
It is the majority. So, yeah, you know, which, you know, we should welcome whether you're Somali, whatever. And I do welcome if you want to assimilate into part of America.

1540
01:29:33,407 --> 01:29:50,301
I good with that Contribute That how I feel Right But the problem is like no that like that not what we been encouraging here That not what we been And it just falls back to incentives right It like show me the incentives I show you the outcome If we fly people here and bring them here you know we give NGOs hundreds of millions

1541
01:29:50,301 --> 01:29:54,361
of dollars and billions of dollars to go facilitate the mass migration of people that could never

1542
01:29:54,361 --> 01:29:57,501
come here themselves, had no probably desire to come here themselves.

1543
01:29:58,621 --> 01:30:03,181
You know, they were just given a free meal ticket, a free house, all these free things,

1544
01:30:03,221 --> 01:30:04,661
right, at the expense of the American taxpayer.

1545
01:30:04,661 --> 01:30:06,781
that shit just has to totally stop.

1546
01:30:07,081 --> 01:30:07,321
Totally.

1547
01:30:07,541 --> 01:30:09,361
And the people that are responsible for that

1548
01:30:09,361 --> 01:30:11,601
should really suffer consequences, I think.

1549
01:30:11,761 --> 01:30:12,921
They should get wrecked.

1550
01:30:13,841 --> 01:30:15,501
Well, before we wrap up here, Michelle,

1551
01:30:15,501 --> 01:30:17,101
is there any other topic you want to talk about?

1552
01:30:18,301 --> 01:30:19,481
We did pretty good.

1553
01:30:19,701 --> 01:30:20,801
Yeah, we covered a lot of stuff.

1554
01:30:22,521 --> 01:30:23,461
Hyperinflation is coming.

1555
01:30:23,981 --> 01:30:25,041
They might kill you.

1556
01:30:26,241 --> 01:30:28,061
Get over it and get involved anyway.

1557
01:30:28,301 --> 01:30:30,021
I mean, that's encouraging, isn't it?

1558
01:30:30,941 --> 01:30:32,101
We always have great...

1559
01:30:32,101 --> 01:30:34,081
I think we have great conversational chemistry, Michelle.

1560
01:30:34,081 --> 01:30:35,421
Yeah, no, you're great.

1561
01:30:35,601 --> 01:30:39,621
It just takes me a moment to adjust to get your podcast voice going.

1562
01:30:39,961 --> 01:30:40,621
It always hits me.

1563
01:30:40,681 --> 01:30:45,661
But you have the coolest podcast studio that I have ever been in.

1564
01:30:46,681 --> 01:30:50,481
And for those that don't know, they can just bring their jet here.

1565
01:30:51,281 --> 01:30:54,221
Land, come hang out, take off.

1566
01:30:54,521 --> 01:30:55,321
It's perfect, yeah.

1567
01:30:55,321 --> 01:30:56,901
It's perfect, a day on the tarmac.

1568
01:30:56,901 --> 01:31:03,381
When are we going to get a bright orange Bitcoin little plane?

1569
01:31:04,081 --> 01:31:14,361
did you see my matrix bitcoin up there yeah i've seen that what's the number a thousand

1570
01:31:14,361 --> 01:31:20,921
no i said once bitcoin hits 500 000 500 oh that hey i'll take that i was gonna say a million

1571
01:31:20,921 --> 01:31:27,661
all right 500k we're gonna have a bright orange plane right out this window i'm gonna fly a

1572
01:31:27,661 --> 01:31:31,761
helicopter be a whole new world michelle it's been a pleasure

1573
01:31:34,081 --> 01:31:35,081
Bye.