I worked with a number of people in DC in the intelligence realm who wouldn't have kids.
You know, no, I'm not going to have kids because I'm going to continue my career
and children would be too much leverage.
I mean, that is like so common.
This is how they work.
There is no line that won't be crossed, right?
The idea that someone's significant other might get murdered sounds incomprehensible.
Not only is that possible, it is probable.
It is extremely likely that someone as close to the absolute truth, someone with the amount of access that he had with his research and his role in Google, all of that, after 20 years watching all of this shit and what they do, politicians being pedophiles, it's because they get elevated.
They take people that are corruptible, they corrupt them, and then they elevate them so that they can be controlled.
These are not wild theories.
There's just no doubt.
I don't need any evidence to know this is how it all works.
I mean, yeah, I mean, there wouldn't be TV shows about this kind of stuff if it didn't
fucking happen.
Like, it just makes me so angry.
There is no accountability.
Nobody's accountable for anything at this point in this Fiat empire.
And that eventually creates ruin.
Everything's in ruin.
Like, nothing is good anymore.
There's so much shit that's happening, and it's so obvious to me and to a lot of people
but luckily I know because of Bitcoin.
It's just all so dumb.
The only reason that people in the United States
don't understand Bitcoin is because they're too ignorant
to think that the dollar could ever fail.
Yeah, just like they would never lock us in our homes.
You know, all fiat currencies eventually fail.
You know, if you don't think that that can happen to the dollar,
you're probably the same person that was saying,
yeah, they'll never lock us in our houses in 2020
and look what they did.
These are the things I'm pissed off about, right?
Like, why are those people not deported?
Why are those programs not shut down?
Like, what I want is for Trump to be half as f***ing ferocious as they claim that he is.
He's not.
Also, fire Pam Bondi.
Down the rabbit hole.
Down.
Cypherpunk.
Rabbit.
Today's guest is Michelle Weakley, director of Product at White Federal.
But that title doesn't tell you the real story.
Michelle is a former insider in the shadowy world of foreign direct investment, who blew the whistle on the global corruption she witnessed firsthand.
She has toured the empty ghost cities of China, watched data be fabricated to suit government narratives, and escaped the belly of the beast to build the rails for a Bitcoin standard.
From fighting the war on cash to calling for the balkanization of the United States, she is not afraid to say the quiet part out loud.
She is the ultimate red pill.
Welcome, Michelle.
Great to be here.
Hey, that's a good intro.
I felt so, too.
I added a line or two.
You guys are good at this.
Yeah, we work together and we collab a little bit.
And then I just kind of write in a little stuff that I like.
No, it's always good to be here with you guys, though.
So before we went live, we were talking at a really interesting topic.
And it was like the death of fiat currencies throughout the world.
I just read this interesting post here by Michael Rihani.
He said, in just five years, Bitcoin is up 4.2x from 21k to 88k USD.
If Lebanon had invested $10 billion in Bitcoin back then, it'd be worth $42 billion today.
But holding Lebanese pounds, the LBP has lost over 98% of its value versus USD since the crisis began.
The black market right now is $89,500 LBP per $1 versus the pre-crisis peg of $1,507 LBP per USD.
10 billion USD equivalent in LBP from five years ago is now worth less than 0.17 billion in real
purchasing power. That's a over a 240x difference. Choose your money wisely. It's kind of wild if
you really think about it in some of these. I mean, most people here in the US don't even think
about everything that's happening in the world at writ large, but it's kind of wild.
Yeah. So I think, you know, we were talking about like the case for Bitcoin and how
if you if you look at any of these other failed fiat currencies bitcoin becomes super obvious
right and so the only bet that one would make against bitcoin would be that the dollar was not
going to fail and i think it's just completely insane like we were we were laughing because what
i said is like the only reason that people in the united states don't understand bitcoin is because
they're too ignorant to think that the dollar could ever fail yeah and my my favorite response
to that is just like yeah just like they would never lock us in our homes you know like like all
fiat currencies eventually fail did you watch nick zabo's speech at uh i think it was lugano
plan b did you ever i think it was at that conference i've seen that once i think you i
think it was that conference i could have been another conference but he basically presented on
this very topic talking about fiat currencies over time and what he showed a graph of like all of the
the world reserve currencies and you basically showed that like it's not really you know a uh
it's just an inevitability that eventually currencies will fail just what is your time
frame right and you know yeah some of them could last for 100 years 200 years whatever it would be
but you know eventually when he puts when he when he grabbed them all on the train and just
you see it go for a period and then boom yeah boom and then boom and then boom i've seen that
chart it's a great kind of wild yeah so the risk is non-zero the risk is actually you know 100%
given enough time based on history, right? But what is the timeframe, right?
Yeah. I mean, it could be another 20 or 30 years, but that's well within our lifetimes.
You know what I mean? If you're having kids today, they're going to barely be out of high school
in 20 years. It's not as far away as it seems. And it could happen quicker. I mean, they're going
to print more money. I think there's a strong chance that the dollar hyperinflates. Another
thing people think I'm crazy for but look at what happened in Venezuela look at the timeline on that
I mean something's gonna happen another crazy like that's yeah look what's happening over there right
now I mean they've I mean I think I saw today they were at like 6,000 inflation which is what
they've been at forever we're at that Bitcoin conference a couple years ago where they had
all the Venezuelan bolivars in the trash thing yeah that was in Miami I think it was like 2020
2021 one of those years right um pretty wild yeah yeah and you know if you don't think that
that can happen to the dollar, like, again, you're probably the same person that was saying,
yeah, they'll never lock us in our houses in 2020. And look what they did. So just don't ever say
that it couldn't happen here. Yeah. I mean, I think it's definitely not happening tomorrow.
Right. I think it's a multi-decade, you know, half century type play here over time. But
the dollar has already lost 99.9% of its value relative to Bitcoin. So obviously, based on
underlying fundamentals, you and I, obviously, we've done our research. We both expect that to
continue. So if you haven't done your research, do your research. Because these are fundamental
attributes that are at play here, fundamental characteristics of money that you have to look
at when you evaluate different monies. So that's my thought there. But yeah, I just wanted to,
we were having a really good conversation about that. So I kind of wanted to talk about that a
little bit just because so many people here in America just think from this first world viewpoint,
when we've got literally fiat currencies failing all over the world constantly and billions of
people on this planet don't have access to banking infrastructure. They don't have access to any kind
of money they can really save in. Yeah. And you don't have to explain Bitcoin to those people,
you know, people in Nigeria, Lebanon, like all of entire countries. Boom. You show them Bitcoin
and they understand it. I think we have first world problems here in the United States and it
makes it hard for people. You know, I think fiat currency honestly is my favorite place to start.
It's not even understanding the fundamentals of Bitcoin. It's understanding the fundamentals of
The fact that your dollars are a fiat currency is something I didn't know anything about until I got into Bitcoin.
I kept hearing this like fiat, fiat.
And I'm like, what the fuck does that even mean, right?
It means your currency is controlled by the government.
And then, of course, you get down the central bank rabbit hole and all these things.
But I think understanding that is actually like exponentially more important than really understanding technically how Bitcoin works.
Have you read Natalie Burnell's book yet?
I haven't.
I have a copy.
I haven't read the whole thing yet.
Yeah.
I'm diving into it because we're going to do a book series here soon after Bitcoin Day Naples.
But she has a great quote that's at the beginning of the book.
And it's like, you know, two fish are swimming along.
And then an older fish comes by and he goes, hey, guys, how's the water?
And two fish keep swimming and they look at each other and say, what the fuck is water?
I mean, I'm embellishing a little bit.
I've got enough bomb in there.
But that's basically the gist of it.
yeah so it's like this idea of like you don't even know you're living in this uh
right aquarium i guess i like that a lot so it's a great quote so uh shout out to natalie on that
one that was well placed yeah oh so what's on your mind you've uh you said you're very angry
what's i'm so angry like i just i just everything is just such bullshit you know we have
psyops everywhere we were talking before we started recording about how they're like not
even pretending anymore. And I think that's brought me to a new level of radicalization.
And also I'm like, I'm radicalized about the fact that there aren't more people that are more angry.
Like there's just people wandering around like, oh, it's OK. You know, like it just makes me so
angry. Like there's so much shit that's happening. And it's so obvious to to me and to a lot of
people that luckily I know because of Bitcoin. But you see, you know, you just it's just all so
dumb. Have you seen all the fiat fraud going on in like Minnesota? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like I'm
going to start calling it fiat fraud. I love that. I'm going to use that. It is fiat fraud.
I've talked about this because it can only happen in a few dollars. Right. Yeah. No,
I talk about that a lot because I saw so much corruption. Right. And so it's true. Like that's
one of the things that got me into bitcoin in the way that i am um but yeah no i mean this is these
are the things i'm pissed off about right like why are those people not deported why are those
programs not shut down like what i want is for trump to be half as fucking ferocious as they
claim that he is yeah he's not also fire pam bondy like put matt gates inside this is he's he's playing
inside the system he's not he's not like you know they call him hitler but he's not he's not we're
like yo vanilla toast go do stuff right right and then at the same time you know then you have
this apathy psyop of like oh haha don't you feel stupid for voting it's like no actually i don't
because we don't live in communism yeah the other choice was so much worse right that's what i tell
people it's like listen like you know you think you have all these choices like no you have a you
have this pill and you have that pill yeah pick this pill is gonna fucking kill you and this pill
is like you know slightly better than the status quo so it's like and it's directional you know
what I mean? Like, no, it's not perfect. Like, no, like, yeah, if I could make the decisions,
I would make a lot of different decisions. But if you move things directionally, and the other
thing that I that really pisses me off about this, like, mocking of the, you know, system and stuff
is, if you don't vote, oh, vote harder, like, okay, don't vote, and then be ruled by the fucking
purple haired gun grabbing lunatics right because so long as we have some sort of system someone is
in charge of the system and if you don't participate in any way in shaping how that looks and I get it's
not perfect I get they're all coordinating behind the scenes but there is a little bit of fucking
control by putting those people in like we could go and fire like all these fucking losers that are
not doing anything in Congress, they could all actually be fired if people organized and went
and voted in a way that was too big to rig the way that we saw happen with Trump in 2024. And
that's not a perfect solution. But like if people got involved, I mean, we are here in the great
state of Florida. And I mean, Florida, like, thank God for Florida, right? Because we'd be living in
some democratic hellhole with a governor that again wants to grab your guns wants to lock you
up during covid like don't tell me that it has no effect on your life because i'm so happy to be
here in florida yeah like thank god for florida right and so it might not be the solution to all
of the problems but it does have an effect on your life because i'm not ruled by some lunatic
democrat i just i can't believe the breadth of incompetence from tim walls in minnesota and
numbers they're saying now that it's happening in maine too and they're getting like all this
covid money they printed is going back to somalia and stuff and these people i mean this is insane
it really is what the fuck right right and and that guy could have been of this fraud that's been
going on it's like i mean every day you uncover something new whether it's covid fraud now they're
saying it's education now they're saying they're finding education fraud i don't think i've seen
this just came out today i think linda mcmahon she said uh i think she's the education secretary
or something. She basically said that
there's all these ghost programs in Minnesota
and kids are getting like, there's kids
that don't exist. There's millions flowing.
It's like, it's crazy.
Well, Tim Waltz has been going
to China for 30 years,
right? So he learned from the best of them how
to create these ghost programs.
I'm not surprised at all. Fire him.
I mean, this man was like steps away
from being the VP of this country.
Yeah, yeah. I also saw something too
that was crazy that somebody said that
we won't be surprised. I think it was Geiger
capital they said like we won't be surprised to see that'll be uncovered that china is pushing a
lot of the dei stuff i saw that yeah isn't that wild to think about but it's just it would be a
smart play by them to try to destabilize you know a pseudo rival nation right i attack them from the
inside right um so i wouldn't be surprised at all and then you have all these marxist professors
going there and doing all this stuff so right yeah it's definitely you know there's definitely
a lot of smoke there for sure yeah no doubt just take minnesota send minnesota to canada
we don't need them we'll trade them for alberta right like if you're not going to deport the
somalis then we're going to trade you for can yeah it's just into canada it's insane i mean
the the problem with all this immigration and again like i hear people like oh we've always
had immigration america is a nation of immigrants and all this stuff it's like yes we are a nation
of immigrants but we also didn't have a welfare state that we just handed out to new immigrants
and we didn't pay for people to fly here and come here and give them a bunch of benefits and put them
in a house on the people's the taxpayers that live here like their dime that is not how america was
one. America was formed like, yeah, you figure out how to get on a boat and like live under the
rafters for six months and eat some moldy bread. And then you show up and live in a closet for six
months until you get a job and figure your shit out. Right. And assimilate. Right. Like America
may have been built by immigrants, but they were immigrants that assimilated and want to to be
American. Yeah. The Somalis, the people coming in from the cartels, those people clearly have no
interest in assimilating. You're 100% American. So to me, like that's the line. Like if I,
I mean there's a lot of lines that could be drawn
but that I think is really
a key factor that people
No I think you hit the nail on the head assimilation is key
and that's been the whole
what is it the world health people
World Economic Forum
the whole thing about multiculturalism
all this stuff
it's like Canada has been
look what's happening to Canada
you come from a shitty place
that you're leaving
you don't want to be there anymore
you keep some of your culture with your family
and use like stuff, stuff that you like.
You keep some of that stuff and you remember your heritage.
But at the same time, this is America.
You're going to come.
This is your nation now.
I'm sick of all these, you know, I'm a Somali American and I'm a Canadian American.
I mean, like, I'm a, you know, all this stuff is like, no, you're either fucking American
or you're not.
Yeah.
No, you know, some of the most patriotic Americans I know are immigrants.
I work with a handful of them at Federal who came from, you know, Leonard, who I know that,
you know, he came from communist Germany.
He is American.
We have several developers from Venezuela.
They are profoundly thankful to be American.
Yeah.
You know, and yeah, assimilate.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
Yeah.
What's going on with Bite Federal?
I think when me and Paul had an episode a while ago and he said that there was some big announcement coming up, I believe, that they couldn't announce.
But like, so what's happened here?
What's going on?
There is a big announcement on the horizon.
I can't say quite yet.
We did have, we've got two pieces of news I can give you.
So we do have a new wallet.
So, you know, we have one of the largest ATM networks.
So if you have cash and you want to buy Bitcoin, we've got you covered.
But we do have a new like digital on ramp.
So we now have a custodial and a non-custodial wallet, which I think is cool.
And we also have a really cool deal that we announced with a company called BurrowPay.
And we're going to be enabling Bitcoin and crypto gambling in Las Vegas.
so next year i mean peak you know in some senses peak degeneracy but there's a market for it so
we will build products las vegas is the place right so next year when we're all in vegas if
you want to you know fund you're staying at caesar palace you want to fund your wallet with bitcoin
we've got you covered when i'm there i like to gamble on my phone at the same time i'm gambling
you are a true degenerate yeah no i love you for it um so we've got lots of cool stuff in the
works and a big announcement probably early next year so i'll let you know when that happens no no
hints no secrets no nothing no i i know you you know it's just it's um bitcoin company things
it's good stuff i love to see it love to see it um what do you think about the samurai dev
situation you know this play out i was really glad to see it across trump's radar the other day
somebody in the White House. I think it might have been just yesterday.
I mean, obviously, I think it's
atrocious that they were charged
at all. I think it's really disappointing
that the charges...
I think the charges were filed under the
Biden regime, and then the case was...
But I think it's in that corrupt New York district.
It's in the southern district.
District of New York. Yes.
They're basically the mob there.
It's unbelievable. And I wish that
Trump would just take the court out.
You know what I mean?
Can they do that? I don't know.
That's actually a good idea.
I don't give a fuck.
Just do it.
I'm pretty sure he, I mean, because, wait.
Wait, can you?
I don't, I don't.
Well, Paul, do me a favor.
Look up the SDNY.
Does that fall under the Department of Justice?
Is that like within the executive branch?
Because if it is, he probably could.
But see.
But if it's not, if it was under the judicial branch, I mean, he couldn't probably do it.
Unless there was, you know, explicit powers to do that within the Constitution.
Oh, yes.
Ask under the DOJ.
Let's make sure we follow.
Under the executive branch, the DOJ executive branch.
this is the problem on the right you're right you're right that they have to fight they want
to be rule followers you're right you're right because because if you don't have the the rule
of law i mean you basically break down into civil war but there is no rule of law like the rule of
law is gone when you're going against communists you're right they don't care what the rule of
laws that when it when it suits them when it suits them yes when it doesn't suit them when
they have power it's it's hell no yes and i'm so tired of this like well we have to be better than
then. No, if you're
going to change your country. Check this shit out.
You're right. Check this shit out. So it is part
of the Department of General Executive Branch agency.
So they could get rid of it. Yeah, that's what he
should do. Just get rid of that whole fucking branch.
So the U.S. Attorney for the SDNY is appointed by the
President. So who did he appoint
to lead the SDNY
right now? I think they were appointed under
Biden. But he should be able
to appoint somebody now.
But the Senate might have held up his.
They were holding up all of his nominations and playing all
these names so let's see you got absolutely no recess appointments this is uh it's such a racket
nickname it the sovereign district of new york due to its aggressive pursuit of cases and relative
autonomy yeah i mean so it's legally it remains structural legally supported to the doj so it's
within the executive branch so yeah i mean abolish it so yeah so this is something definitely trump
can rule on with the uh keon rodriguez uh samurai situation right so he can rule on it and he can
also just abolish the court and hire them.
I think that's what I would do. It's like a cesspool
of corruption over there. It's the same court
that went after him. They're all just trying to make a name for themselves.
Yeah, they went after him. Just get rid of him.
It's like the epitome of corruption.
And they were trying to go after him. I don't know
if that was the one that, or no, that was a civil
one where they went after him for
the mortgage situation from
like 30 years ago where they tried to say he
the bank gave him the loan. Yeah, a mortgage
fraud. I don't know what that was too, but get rid
of him. Get rid of him if you can.
But, Paul, ask if he
if he appointed somebody to lead that and then also ask if he can just decide to disband it because it might be who are you asking we asking whose authority do you need well the
constitution ultimately that's how things are supposed to run we're supposed to have a constitution
we're supposed to have a rule okay all right as long as it's constitution yeah i mean we you know
like the constitution was based on the magna carta which limited the power of the king you know it's
a whole there's a whole lot of history there so we try to play within the rules if we can you know
I mean, that's what we should strive for, right?
But I hear you.
Ish.
Ish, right?
Like a little less rule following, a little more ruthlessness.
Yeah.
Yes.
Let's see here.
In November 2024, Jake Layton.
Let's see here.
So Senate Democratic leadership, Chuck Schumer, blocked the nomination via the blue slip process.
Trump appointed Clayton as interim U.S. attorney.
to continue serving until a Senate confirmed nominee is installed.
So Jay Clayton still remains the attorney for the SDNY.
So it follows the resignation of previous attorney Damian Williams,
a Biden appointee.
So Trump does have his guy there now,
but it's not permanent because the Senate will not enact it.
They won't do any of this confirmation.
They won't confirm because of Chuck Schumer.
but you know
yeah I would just I would probably just disband
it it just seems like such a
a
point of like maximum corruption
it is it's really stuff
you know it's a hotbed of corruption and just you know politically
motivated waste of taxpayer dollars
for nonsense bullshit
you know absolutely
I also saw today that they
the FBI was like we don't have probable cause to go to
Mar-a-Lago and do this raid and the DOJ
under Biden was like we don't give a fuck
we're just going to go for it. We don't care.
Shoot to kill. That's what they were saying.
It's crazy. It is crazy.
And that really happened. That's what you're saying.
These other motherfuckers are not following
the rule of law. That's what we're up against.
And, you know, I mean, I understand it's a
fine line. You want to say, like, the Constitution
is the line. That's fine. But
constitutionally... Again, the people that did
these things should suffer consequences.
And again, I hope that
there will be consequences. I hope that
we do stay within the bounds
of the law and the Constitution. And then the people that
that went outside those bounds previously are punished and receive consequences.
Now, a lot of people are saying, oh, there's no consequences yet.
You know, there really hasn't been.
There hasn't been.
There fucking hasn't been.
Not a Pam Bondi fan.
So let's see how that plays out because we're, I believe, still year one of the presidency.
It's wild, isn't it?
Isn't it wild that it hasn't even been a year yet.
So we're not even a year into the presidency.
We have four years.
Right.
And people are giving up.
Yeah, yeah.
I would say give it a little bit more time.
Some of these things need to cook.
you have to really gather the evidence you have to gather the details and you know they did come
out with a thing today about the mar-a-lago situation and the people who signed off on that
you know who decided to violate the constitution with no probable cause and go try to do that
political stuff i mean you do have to punish those people right absolutely as opposed to what like
what kind of what you're saying which is like fuck it just go just go for it i'm saying like
fuck it in the sense of like punish those people who did that thing so it doesn't happen again
there's a whole game theoretical thing about this where it's like if you let one side weaponize the
government against you and then you don't retaliate and respond right behind you know
my thought is yes retaliate and respond but hold but it's by holding those people accountable
that's kind of how i think it should be so it doesn't spiral out of control when the pendulum
comes back and then you get what i'm saying i get what you're saying yeah i'm just you know
but it's already you know like it's already spiraled out of control over here and you can't
just like gently pull it back you have got to be ruthless yeah and i don't think of it as
retaliation i think of it as accountability right and and you get all these dumb labels and all this
shit but um yeah you got to be real careful holding yourself to um some rules-based system
that the other side gives no fucks about yeah because i mean that's how you end up with communism
yeah no I mean that's I think it's part of the uh isn't that like part of the I think it was like
Sawalinski's rules for radicals where they talk about this stuff where they kind of say like yeah
it's you know when we have power fuck it we do whatever we want they do you know that's part of
play within the system only when it's convenient to follow the rules and yeah when it's not
convenient just fuck the rules right do whatever you're gonna do that's what we're up against yeah
so you have to have to really understand what you're dealing with on that sense
there was something i'm gonna get you more radical yeah you're radicalizing me i had
such a good question to ask you but i forgot it it was about all this
oh man let's change topics a little bit what do you think the biggest themes for 2026 are going
to be when it comes to bitcoin and you know crypto in general where do you think we're at
right now with the cycle everything happening you know are we out of the four-year cycle people are
talking about that. You know, what do you think is going to be a big theme for 2026? Yeah.
That's tough because, you know, I'm a little bit of a doomer and I think that the chaos is going
to continue, which is historically not good for markets and assets and things like that.
And so I think we've held like price wise, we've sort of set a new sort of we're like hanging out
here. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of huge event, whether it's a false flag or,
you know, just more like some war gets declared or something and that we see like a dip down.
I'm fully prepared for some sort of like drawdown. But then I think at some point,
like is the top in I don't for if if there's still a cycle I don't know anything is possible
uh I think we see like a sharp drawdown I think something is going to happen there's going to be
some major chaos just all of these things are escalating you know we see all of these events
so I think more chaos more chaos but then ultimately Bitcoin will end up higher if you
are still looking at dollar conversions which you shouldn't be but if you are i don't know i don't
know what comes next we're in this like wall street suit coin era it's not as fun but it also
was inevitable uh i would like to see a resurgence of some of the like libertarian cypherpunk roots
and the one like sort of the silk in my opinion the silver lining of any sort of chaos that may
escalate is that you will see I think that kind of breeds the people that want and need Bitcoin for
reasons other than number go up right we were talking about like in Nigeria Lebanon you have
people that really just understand Bitcoin because their currency is fucked and so I think we may
recruit more people to Bitcoin because of that less suits more I think the situation with the
samurai devs is going to be like a real sticking point for this administration. If he, you know,
if he, if Trump pardons, you know, Keon and the devs, I think that would be like a good,
a really good thing, obviously, for our community. But it would, it would, it would draw the line,
you know, in the fight for, for freedom and privacy and basically say, Hey, look,
we're going to support development and protection of privacy and rights. So we'll see how that plays
out. I mean, what's your prediction? Because by the time this airs, he might have already partnered,
or he might not.
So we don't need to.
Oh, I hope so.
I think this is really, really important
because the fight against crypto is not over, right?
We saw a major reversal in Choke Point 2.0
and sort of this assault against the industry.
We saw a huge reversal with the Trump admin coming in.
But I think it's super naive to believe
that that's the end of the fight.
We have not yet won.
And so the stronger that Trump can draw the line
and say, you cannot come after developers this way.
You cannot come after the industry this way.
Like the harder that that line gets drawn,
the more well-prepared we will be going into the next battle.
So I think that he will.
I'm really optimistic because-
Maybe you're not a doomer.
There's a little bit of hope, right?
Because this court-
Hope may Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.
No, but because the court is specifically the court
that went after Trump and after his family,
I think that that gives a little bit, it gives some additional insight to Trump just without even having to like, you don't have to look too closely to know how much bullshit is happening.
Exactly.
Right.
And so I'm very optimistic that it has gotten on his radar and that he will pardon them.
I think that would be really, really good.
I don't, I'm not like full of hope.
I think the assaults will continue, but it would be a really good like battle to win in the larger war.
what's uh you also mentioned that's a great and a great thought a great thought that you just
laid out for everybody um great analysis you all when you were talking initially you mentioned
choke point 2.0 uh 2.0 you said that battle's kind of uh changing are you actually because
you're actually uniquely qualified to answer this with white federal like do you actually see things
changing there or are we because i like i'm still kind of dealing with it from what i see yeah i'm
still getting told oh you're crypto we can't do business with you i'm still hearing that oh absolutely
I'm still hearing a lot. Absolutely. We have products that we can't get banked. So we have,
you know, the ATMs are still predominantly like our largest line of business, but we have these
other products. We've made announcements. We have things that are being held up because banks are
saying, no, we're not going to do that. You know, and these are not like out of the ordinary lines
of businesses. They're not crazy products. So is choke point 2.0 over? No, not by any stretch of
the means. Everything is still very, very difficult. I think they're going to continue
to make it difficult. I think a lot of people have seen the way that Bitcoin could threaten
the existing system. And so I think there's just been a pivot to sort of push Bitcoin and Bitcoin
products and the whole ecosystem to push it into this corner that holds, you know,
okay then the val like a digital gold right but they don't want bitcoin to be truly unleashed um
i haven't i haven't listened to it yet but somebody just asked me did i hear what sailor
said about like taking all the bitcoin out of circulation have you heard that uh well i did see
a post he made today about quantum maybe you can all can you pull up his latest uh tweet i don't
know if this is what you're talking about or not but i'm basically just saying it was interesting
This is an interesting one.
If I understood it correctly, it was like the banks should hold Bitcoin.
Banks and big players will hold Bitcoin and the rest of you will just use paper Bitcoin.
Here it is.
The Bitcoin quantum leap.
Quantum computing won't break Bitcoin.
It will harden it.
The network upgrades.
Active coins migrate.
Lost coins stay frozen.
Security goes up.
Supply comes down.
Bitcoin grows stronger.
That's an interesting take.
Yeah.
You know, I don't disagree with any of that.
I mean, I think this quantum threat is way overhyped because people are bored and they don't have anything else to fud about right now.
It's something that needs to be addressed, but I don't think.
I think there's a couple already like Bitcoin improvement proposals already meant to deal with that if that actually does become a threat.
Yeah.
I mean, I think definitely down the road it could be a potential threat, but I think there would be a way for people to be to have time to upgrade their stuff to, you know, move to a quantum safe wallet implementation.
Right.
Maybe.
yeah no i agree completely michael saylor did briefly he did mention that um bitcoin effectively
could be taken out of circulation um you know discuss this idea in uh response to
quantum computing threats oh i see okay so i don't know if it was presented to me quite accurately
yeah but when he sorry real quick when he answered this question in uh here in naples when we had him
at our symposium.
He said that quantum computing
would likely just be able to discover
the lost coins essentially.
Well, yeah, because those coins
that haven't, you know,
have been lost or have,
you know, eventually those wallets
will get cracked
if nobody's used them for 20 years
or whatever, you know,
and those people died
or they lost the keys or whatever.
And if they don't,
people don't actively upgrade, right?
That's the key.
They don't actively upgrade.
And then Satoshi's stash,
potentially too could also be mined. I think he had mined a bunch of different wallets that are
attributed to him. So there could be treasure troves out there, which at the end of the day,
no matter what happens, there's only 21 million coins. So it doesn't really matter if those coins
are inactive for a very long time and eventually a quantum computer treasure hunter cracks them
eventually and then resells them and introduces that supply. That supply, yes, the price may go
down in the short term. But over the long term, that price supply will get more distributed.
It will get sent out to more people and it's much better. It'll be a short term pain for
long term gain. That's the way I think about it. One Bitcoin will still equal one Bitcoin.
There you go. Exactly. Can you imagine the headlines on CNN?
Bitcoin is over.
Since Hershey's coins have moved. Anonymous Bitcoin creator moves nuts.
Digital pirate treasure stash uncovered. Bitcoin's over now.
That would break people's brains.
Wait till people hear about what they did in COVID and just double the base, increase
the money supply by 50% by pressing a button so we could fund a bunch of Somali pirates.
Oh my God.
And a bunch of PPP loans that was like 80% fraud with zero oversight.
Right.
And they've all been forgiven.
Yeah.
And all these other NGO scams that they gave money here, money there, money there.
We're funding queer studies and for the Taliban.
Apparently we're still paying the Taliban like 50 million a week or something I saw.
Something crazy.
Gay and ridiculous.
They tried to stop it and they said, no, we're not stopping this.
We'll kill you.
And then everybody was like, oh, okay, no problem.
You can't even make this.
You get a check, you get a check, you get a check.
Oh my God, this is the shit I'm angry at.
Yeah, no, it is.
It's unbelievable.
But this is fucking fiat shit.
It is.
It's absolutely.
This is fiat fraud.
In a Bitcoin denominated world, this stuff does not happen.
It's true.
It's not even possible because there is real oversight.
You can't just press a button and make money and then not care what happens or incompetently
waste it, right?
Yeah.
So, yeah.
You mentioned the suits era we're going into.
What do you think of MicroStrategy and all these different treasury companies and how
things are playing out there?
Do you see that as something we should be aware of, nervous about?
Are you excited about it?
I don't give a shit.
You don't give a shit.
No.
Well, let's see. I think for people who still have for people who have assets that are fiat assets, I think strategy is a great option. I'm glad that that option exists. I think I'm really glad to see companies holding Bitcoin on their balance sheet.
I'm not a big fan of like that being the only thing that you're doing.
Right.
So I think if you're going to make investments, you should be making investments in real companies like MicroStrategy is a real company.
Obviously, they have a very unique use case because they were first and they have whatever percent of the entire supply.
And I think ultimately that will play out and strategy becomes some type of bank or something.
But for the vast majority of these companies, like, is it interesting or not?
Like, well, you know, the fact that they hold Bitcoin is not that interesting to me.
So, like, what else is the company doing?
Yeah.
And if they're...
I think Jack Myles was talking about this with...
Yeah.
What if they just opened a new company and he was kind of saying, you know, we're going to be doing lending products or different things.
Digital credit, they were calling it.
Yeah.
It'll be like a financial services business, you know.
And whatever you're doing, like, keep doing it.
I just I like to see these companies that are doing something.
I think some of them do nothing but hold Bitcoin.
And I don't really think that that's a business model.
Like, I think that's great if you're a person or, you know, I don't know.
But, you know, we're we're in like a transitional period.
If you you know, if the goal ultimately is hyper Bitcoinization and we get rid of all the fiat fraud and all of this shit, like how long we talked about decades possibly that it takes to get there.
so i'm glad that people have access to these sort of like in between times products um it's not
really for me i don't care about the fiat structured things um but yeah i mean the suit
error it was inevitable yeah i mean i think it's good uh like long term when it comes to like
accumulation with a lot of these like different funds and stuff that will will be passively
allocating to bitcoin like in grandma me ma and papa's portfolio where they don't really
know or understand, but hey, now they're getting a little Bitcoin. I think that's great.
Yeah. A good thing for them. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's good for everyone in the fact that
what I am happy to see is some of the rules loosening in terms of who can hold Bitcoin.
You know, the banks now are allowed, you know. So that's good. I think that's good for normies
who don't really know what's going on and may provide a little bit of protection for them.
Yeah. Did you see the whole, was it like JP Morgan came out with this big thing,
like against micro strategy or something. And then, then they said that, Oh, we're going to
offer the same product or something. And then they were like changing the rules on some other,
I don't know what it was, but some rule for certain types of funds or something.
I, I don't understand it super well, but I know it was timed, super targeted. And I think,
you know, these are the types of things that people are not quite as aware of. Um, but these
are the sort of things, like when I say we're still at war, I mean, we are very much still at
war with the fiat banking empire. Just because Chokepoint 2.0 has slowed down, it doesn't mean
that they're not playing all these games. There's going to be more games played. We're going to be
targeted. And so I just think people need to be aware of that and cautious about it.
You hit the nail on the head. Here's a philosophical question for you.
When money can be created without constraint, losses are socialized and mistakes never fully clear.
What does that do to accountability in a society?
It destroys accountability.
There is no accountability.
Nobody's accountable for anything at this point in this fiat empire.
And that eventually creates ruin, right?
And so we're living in ruin.
Everything's in ruin.
Nothing is good anymore.
You've made the argument that fiat culture weakens people, especially men, by making survival dependent on compliance.
How does money shape courage, family stability, and personal responsibility?
Oh, this is deep down.
This is philosophy corner.
And it's like Maddie's voice, his podcast voice.
I gotta go into my philosophical voice now.
Okay, wait, read that one again. That's like a big question.
You've made the argument that fiat culture weakens people, especially men, by making survival dependent on compliance.
How does money shape courage, family stability, and personal responsibility?
Damn.
I'm about to write a whole book about this.
Well, it's true what I said, right?
Like, people are scared.
They're scared of losing their paycheck because they say the wrong thing, right?
You have this idea of a compliance and...
There's a lot there.
It does make people weak.
You know, and as people get weaker and weaker, society gets weaker.
Like, we've talked a lot about accountability and involvement and...
Damn, that's hard.
Currency ruins everything.
It does make men weak It makes everyone weak You have to let me think about that one in life No Like that these are you know a lot of the shit i say uh it easier like to write as i can think about it for
three hours before i um but i think the way that you you put it and you summarize sort of some of
the rants that i go off on i think really like hits the nail on the head it makes people weak
you know traditionally society has been led by men you know so who who can be most weakened is
the strongest people and so this whole idea of toxic masculinity and all this stuff yeah like
what's what is toxic is the lack of masculinity i agree right because real men are not toxic
real men are amazing people and without real men we see the downfall of society we see
like children being hurt in the bathrooms and their dad's too scared to do anything about it
and and all of this nonsense um i actually i just saw this clip the other day of this man
at a school board meeting which is like why i use that as an example and he brought uh some like
older teenagers and had them start changing in the meeting. And the school bard got really
uncomfortable and angry, obviously, and tried to stop it. And he said, why are you uncomfortable?
Like, you've asked my 10-year-old daughter to be comfortable in this space with men changing in
front of them, but you're uncomfortable. And it was like, it was, I thought it was really powerful
and very impactful and I hope that it made a difference at that school and that to me is like
the epitome of like a strong man a strong dad a strong father a strong community member and that
is what we need to like take the reins back from the ruin that we're currently living in
interesting so I'm sure there's lots of liberal retards who are crying about that like oh it was
so toxic and how dare you and all of this bullshit but like no like that's actually what we need to
see what needs like that's actually amazing like good for him like some of these people are so stuck
with the woke mind virus that you have to do stuff like that to their face they can really start to
like grasp the ridiculousness right and absurdity of so much of this stuff yeah yeah exactly did you
see elon's like chart that he posted like the death of woke mind virus recently where it just
like shows like all these things and like i don't think i saw that he's got all these charts and it
just shows it going up in academia all these things and like since he took over x it's just
like right now amazing yeah pull it up it's pretty good i was gonna say let's see that i love it
i have the um i have the opposite chart that i'm always tweeting about when it started with this
yeah undack yeah there it is going on the woke mind virus was easy to measure now it's being
perched yes yes i have tweeted that exact chart so many times so you just see all this stuff and
then you can just see when the psyop starts and that google starts pushing 2013 totally like you
know horrible for this because they go in the search algorithms and they manipulate it and
gaslight you and push anytime you search a question or something they kind of like social
so slowly socially engineer you with all this lib this all this woke nonsense propaganda
about all these different things everything's racist you know unless you're a white person
then it's not racist yeah you see 2013 was the turning point you know what happened there i've
yelled i've yelled enough about the smith mund act oh when they could when they could basically uh
run propaganda propaganda on ourselves i think obama repealed that didn't he yep yep which by
the way is super hard to google because they've labeled it yeah they've they they say that he's
modernized it and so like obvuscates the truth yeah that's what they do these are the games they
play and you know there's incredible bias in that search tweak and algorithm this is like
part of the reason i'm excited about ai is because it was so bad before with google because everybody
uses google they have that monopoly and then they the little social justice warriors that are in
silicon valley that think they're all smart little developers up there they're in there tweaking the
algorithm and when it's time for an election they go in and they literally have all of your private
data if you have a google account they have all of your information and they know how to socially
engineer you. They have all of your data from forever.
So they know every little detail that you care about
or something that you like and they know, okay, I'm going to
push you this customized piece of propaganda,
Michelle, because I know you care about this one issue.
And then, you know, Paul over there cares
about these two issues. So they know that they're going to
socially engineer and do that.
Paul, what are you lighting over there?
Michelle's, she's been
sick.
Oh, I'm so sorry. This is Palo Santo.
I'm going to burn it again.
Palo Santo.
I thought it was Sage or something, but
He just tries to make it smell good.
I know.
It's very on-frame.
The scent is a little strong.
You've been sick.
Tell me about that.
I've been super sick.
That's not good.
It's been really a hell of a few months, but I'm on the mend.
Was the deep state trying to take you out?
Yeah, they were.
I think Paul actually works for the deep state over there.
He's got his Palo Santo.
Palo Alto.
Always meet me.
I'm talking about Palo Alto.
They're doing it at Google, and he starts-
Palo Santo.
He lights the Palo Santo to try to eat.
now all right abort abort mission oh man uh wait what i was gonna say what i'm gonna say
what were we talking um google google oh yes uh but i was saying i was excited for ai because
hopefully you know obviously open ai is going to be google 2.0 and hopefully we have other
alternatives more options at least at least garak is trying and then there's other alternatives too
Yeah. Yeah. I actually I'm also hopeful about that ish. I I I a little a little maybe. I googled cultural Marxism a while ago. I was looking for something that turn that stuck in our vernacular. I googled this. I googled that. Like I try not to say that anymore because I'm so sick of shit. I'm going to rock that shit. That's what I say. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said something about Wikipedia and I was like or you could just not use it. Right. Like, yeah, I don't Google almost anything, but I was looking for something really specific.
and it told me that cultural marxism was a far right conspiracy theory and the thing is they
push up to the top of the search algorithm they do they push up probably all these like blog posts
from these these woke yeah the woke the woke the woke clown people then they're like people the
very first couple things i mean you know they push all of the the the good stuff down and it's like
they put at the top these like woke propaganda articles right these people that like who is this
person that's writing this article why is it top of my search document oh this is a dei professor
at uh at oxford or a harvard or wherever you know and they they push all that stuff up to the front
it's like this is just somebody's opinion this is a blog post this is not actual information
yeah you know and people just that's what they read that's the first thing they read so
so they slowly are socially engineering everybody yeah no they have been for 20 plus i mean really
since yeah the internet took off and uh i you know so you mentioned some of the aides i'm excited
about grokopedia yeah uh because wikipedia is just a complete propaganda so grokopedia hopefully
like also i still have a paper uh what do you britannica the inside i have an encyclopedia
like oh really yes let's make encyclopedia great again yes yeah like paper books you know i think
there's a non-zero chance that like everything goes down and there's nothing digital and i just
I'm prepared. I can't wait. I hope it happens.
But you're going to need an encyclopedia, maybe some VHSs that you've downloaded or MP3s on a local hard drive, some walkie-talkies, maybe something to access the mesh network.
And I'll fly my helicopter down here.
yeah i don't i mean i think we're we're we're getting to the point now with all these satellites
and stuff in space with starlink and there's going to be other ones as well that like i don't think
there will be a way to ever take down the internet anymore i mean if there's 10 000 satellites like
right you know flying around the earth i mean i guess you could try but so there's some of them
are so small that it's like well i think it's more a matter of interrupting communication and
the flow of network data so that it becomes harder and harder to access the things that we want
and you'll be sort of like steered into these small silos
so that they can hyper control the information that goes through there.
That's kind of more the future that I see.
Explain that a little bit more because I don't really understand.
I'm not understanding that.
Are they?
Because like if you can tap into a Starlink satellite,
aren't you like you basically can have access to the internet?
Are you saying like the firewall?
The internet itself would be?
Yes.
Yeah.
So like in China, right?
Like you can't even go to certain websites.
And I was going to say, like, even this idea of the Internet, like we talk about the Internet as if it is.
This beacon of free and open access, which it was, I think there was this period of time, like if you go back far enough, you had to kind of understand how your modem worked to get onto the Internet.
And then access became easier and easier.
We saw home internet access like really thrive and then you could get on the internet with your phone and then it was everywhere.
And there was this period of time where like I think we all took access to information for granted.
But 40% of websites that have been created in the past 20 years are gone.
So even like the idea of the internet that you reference, what does that even mean, right?
Because I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think that when you say the internet, you believe that the internet is a place that you can find any information that you might want.
You may have to look a little harder, scroll down past Google page one propaganda results.
Yep.
I don't even use Google.
Yeah.
So, right.
Their search algorithm is good, though.
You got to give them the credit where credit's due because if you want to find something specific, yeah, they're pretty damn good at it.
But I've just gotten used to using other browsers and using other search engines.
Sure.
Slightly worse products that don't try to socially engineer me.
So you're moving –
So just like take that out exponentially over another 10 years and you're sort of moving in the direction towards this like you are already –
you're already doing what they want you to do-ish, right?
So you've moved away from Google because you recognize that what you're getting from Google is just propaganda.
And there are some other options.
You can use other browsers.
You can use the AI models that are coming out that presumably have full access to all of the data that has existed.
But I think that that's going to continue to get steered.
And most people will not move around.
They will just get steered.
and
the internet will no longer be
like a place for free
and I actually, I would actually make the case
that we are already in a place
where... I already feel that, that's what I'm saying.
I already feel like people are being steered and they have no idea.
Correct. Especially like, you know,
like older generation will have like no clue.
They all go to Google. Google, Wikipedia.
Oh, this is what it says on the first thing, yeah.
That's fact. Yeah, I mean, you kind of...
They take that as fact. Yeah. You know, you have to kind of curate
your experience. I'm already doing that, you know, but
Yeah, most people don't even have, they don't even know.
That's why I think this is so sinister, what Google has done.
Yes.
Is the manipulation of information and the manipulation of search results, you know.
And it's not just, you know, economic.
There is all that really political stuff that's happening there.
Yeah.
And people are just being, you know, the algorithms are manipulating and gaslighting.
And all platforms kind of are doing some of this stuff when you go on social media and stuff.
But you can kind of curate it a little bit more with Google.
It's like there's these.
Google's totally.
They've done these.
I think it was Dr. Robert Epstein.
and he did this research on it and found out.
You know they killed his wife.
That's what he thinks, yeah.
That's kind of wild.
I have no doubt.
You have no doubt, wow.
I've always wanted to talk to him about it
because I've been curious.
I would love for you to have a conversation.
I would love to have a conversation with him.
I've reached out to him once or twice.
Dr. Robert Epstein.
Yeah, come on.
Come talk to the AIS.
He has retweeted one of your videos before.
Oh, he has, okay, cool.
I'm going to at tweet him.
I was on this kick for a long time
work because i was like nobody even knows who this dude is like no there's what yeah they've
been like censoring him and demoting his stuff oh yeah yeah he's like so i've been trying to push
it out there i try to make a couple videos but right obviously the algorithm i'm gonna help you
get him oh he's been he's one of my dream guests i'd love to talk oh my gosh all right let's make
that happen listen huge fan of his research and he's got i think it's called seam which is search
engine manipulation effect and uh sears and there's a couple other like little uh like uh
acronyms that he has of like all this research he's done but like i'm super like i'm a super
a huge fan of like how he's actually done this empirically where he's gotten all these people
randomly all over right where they do these uh these ephemeral experiences yes so you can't even
there's no record of it later so when it's like election time and there's like an election coming
up like google has all your gmail account or whatever they know exactly who they need to kind
of motivate and push to go vote so they can get what they want and it's fucking crazy it is insane
so he's literally like videotaping the screen and seeing oh you're a fucking democrat in this area
go vote oh you're a republican in this area here's a video about about monkeys and elephants don't
it's on election day it's on election day voting in the psyop why you shouldn't drive today you
know yes yes no exactly right oh it's gonna rain yeah it's gonna rain today here's a rain forecast
in your area you know so this is the stuff like shit that's happening it's yeah it's like people
have no clue they don't and it's like it's wild and it's it's honestly it's evil and what i the
angle that i think that should be taken on this situation and they there's been there really hasn't
been a way to like quantify this or like figure out exactly you know what the effect is here but
i think google should be fine for illegal campaign contribution when they do this stuff
that's what it is what is the value of moving if you look at all the money that's poured into
elections and you see how much money is actually spent on this shit people these campaign people
raise all this money and spend on shit that really doesn't move the needle okay you have
one more ad on television or okay you have this one rally or you do this one thing or you know
does that stuff really move the needle probably not but will it move the needle if you can fucking
socially engineer and manipulate hundreds of thousands of millions of people without their
consent or knowledge and you can slowly put your hand on the you know slowly put your thumb on the
scales and that can move a million votes and change the outcome of election what's the political
value what is the actual economic value of that i'd argue it's fucking hundreds of millions
potentially in the presidential election you know tens of billions maybe a hundred billion plus
right maybe even more so like if quantify that figure that out have some actual evidence and
fucking report on it and you know go after them for a legal campaign contribution because that's
what it is honestly it's a campaign contribution right so you know you're using your product that
you would charge so much money for right like if you're if you pay google to put your product up
higher on the page sure right like they're gonna charge millions of dollars yeah they're gonna
they're gonna fucking charge you right you know you're gonna have a fee so what is the outcome
of being able to manipulate an election
and steer millions of votes
during a critical period of time.
I think the economic value of that is enormous.
So if they're doing that,
not disclosing that,
that's the angle to attack them on that.
That's how you get justice for that situation.
Absolutely.
And then not to mention,
it's just fucking evil
to be socially,
socially,
socially manipulating people.
I mean, it's completely evil.
Yeah.
Now, okay.
So imagine if you will,
that it's not just Google.
No, it's not.
It's not.
No, it's not.
They just have that.
They just have the search engine.
They have a stronghold.
Right.
With the search engine thing.
And that's what really can.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people that like.
But yeah.
Open up the internet.
And it's Google.
And they don't know the names.
Exactly.
But I mean.
One could say that.
You know.
The CIA has offices in the ISPs.
Of course they do.
Yes.
They do.
Yeah.
And then.
I'm sad.
They also have.
They have people.
And they had all these people.
And Facebook.
Oh yeah.
And social media.
And X.
And all these different things.
It's like.
Yeah.
They're everywhere.
It's everywhere.
it's everything it's really um we're gonna get dr robert epsina on this he's been one of my dream
guests i'd love to talk to him about all this because i'm just geek out we're gonna make that
happen yeah i hope so if you can't i'm gonna consult my crystal collection we're gonna get
really woo woo take your palo santos then you can come down too we can do it three ways love to meet
him i i would love to meet him they killed his wife yeah that's what uh i want to ask him about
all that yeah yeah i don't know does he talk publicly about it i'm not sure did yeah he okay
he's talked about it on rogan and yeah i don't know if he's saying like 100 i don't recall if
he said 100 sure he was just he may believe it or he like it was just very coincidental
yeah she died in a car yeah i tried to do more research on it i couldn't quite
i couldn't find a lot of it's very circumstantial i remember him saying is that there was
that there was manipulation with the investigation and the report.
Right.
And that he suspected that that was intentional.
And when he sought to do an additional investigation,
third-party investigation that they interfered, impeded in some way.
So hopefully we'll get the full story from the man himself.
I'd love to hear what he has to say about it.
I think anytime something horrible or tragic happens,
it's you know you want to you want to find somebody to blame like i know that that's how i would feel
if like bad things like who the fuck do i blame for this and you know sadly sometimes shit bad
things just happen right you know what do happen so yeah but i don't know look i'm willing to
entertain all evidence when i researched the issue i couldn't find a smoking gun sure it just
it just seemed very suspicious and very circumstantial yeah and there's a lot of what i
understand he actually had got had gotten some insight somebody um some whistleblower spoke to
him and told him that so again i don't know the facts here but from what i recall from the
conversation he had with rogan he had significant reason to believe that it was orchestrated yeah
i mean i don't want to bring up a terrible topic with him but would be happy to explore that if
he's willing to you know um yeah if i can talk to him at some point while we're on the topic i
thought thomas massey's wife was uh you know that i thought that was very suspicious but then he
he said you know it was it was there was no foul play yeah what did she have cancer or something
wouldn't you say that though yeah if but but his actions you know prove otherwise yeah no thomas
doesn't give a fuck he would say whatever he thinks you just did yesterday he called out for
the rob reiner thing that's true which was a little distasteful i think i think he just i mean the guy
was murdered by his son and his wife was yeah it's a little it's just you know just say look you know
We didn't agree politically, but I'm so sorry for what happened.
That's horrible.
Yeah, but if you look at, like, somebody put a compilation of his tweets together, like, his, like, aggressive attacks on Trump.
I don't know.
I just feel like I want more.
It was not somebody.
Like, not West.
I know.
I get it.
It was distasteful, no doubt.
It was distasteful to me.
I read it.
It was.
I was kind of like, oh, this is, like, not the time to say this.
Like, yeah, you're right.
He's kind of like, you know.
But it just wasn't the time.
It was like, hey, you know, just say, look, we didn't agree politically, but I'm so sorry.
It was a tragic death.
He was murdered by his own children.
I mean, it's just really, yeah, it's just horrible.
Before we move on, I do want to say, so like this idea of like someone murdering this guy's wife.
You know, you referenced my time with the elites and in D.C.
I lived in D.C. for more than a decade.
and I worked in some of these jobs.
You know, if you look at some of the shows that they make,
like people used to ask me,
if you remember there was a show called House of Cards
on Netflix about like politics in DC.
There was a show called Scandal.
And if you look at these,
we talk about like predictive programming.
So when people used to ask me, for example,
for House of Cards,
there was some really crazy shit that happened there,
including a lot of murders and like extreme stuff.
people would ask me like you know does this stuff really happen in dc i'm gonna ask you about the
sam altman situation with open ai and the guy that got murdered after this so just keep that in your
back pocket so absolutely it all true like in in the show scandal for example example I forget which seasons this aired like what the timeline lines up
But there was like this like multi for three different for a whole years of this show that's airing on like mainstream television.
They have this shadow government that works without the authority of the president.
And they like undermine the presidency and they like dictate elections.
That's what I'm wondering about all the shit that happened in the previous cycle.
Biden was the president, more so the resident.
I mean, the dude was clearly, obviously, was not there.
The auto pen was doing all these.
I mean, who was really signing all those things and doing all those things?
And the guy's like, can't even go on a five-minute bike ride.
He's falling on the ground and falling down the stairs.
And he's fucking, where am I on stage and can't respond?
And it's like, he's clearly incapacitated mentally.
yeah um like i don't think he was i don't think i don't think honestly biden was in
biden was like part of the the swamp for like 50 years i don't think he was i don't think he was
the one you know doing the doj stuff and no going after trump i don't think he was even
you know what i mean but i don't think he was you know actually yeah he wasn't i don't think
he was in charge either not even close he had no idea what was going on it was super clear yeah i
don't want to take you off your off your thread no i just i mean you're talking about house of
cards. Yeah. Anything that you think like any like there is no line that won't be crossed, right? Like
to a lot of people, the idea that someone's significant other might get murdered sounds
incomprehensible. And I just want people to understand like the degree to which not only
is that possible, it is probable. These things happen all the time. It is extremely likely that
someone as close to the absolute truth that dr epstein has gotten someone with the amount of
access that he had with his research and his role in google all of that i mean to me like after 20
years watching all of this shit and what they do i mean there there's just no doubt i don't need any
evidence to know i mean did they can we prove that they killed his wife you know no like you can not
necessarily but i mean they have without a shadow of a you just you think that you think that they
would say like you know if they were going to kill his wife they'd be like they give him a warning
first so funny you say that matt because yeah um i just went ahead and looked into it and sure
enough um if you want to go ahead and read this it it essentially you know it states what you
precisely just said there was a warning his wife misty don died after a vehicle spun out on a rain
slicked interstate and uh interstate 15 in california and collided with a tractor trailer
he has a tragic accident with no evidence of drugs alcohol or other factors average
2020 last year after i briefed a group of state ags about google's power to rig elections one of
them said i think you're going to die in an accident in a few months a few months later
my beautiful wife misty died in a violent death yeah i mean i i you know i can see a political
person being like hey like even if they didn't like hey you're gonna disappear yeah is unacceptable
and not only could they have it's very likely that they did you know um a lot of people are not
i think you are familiar with the story of general flynn and how they went after his kid oh yeah oh
yeah you know and i actually had a politician on here i mean you know the thing was the uh i'm trying
remember who it was that we talked to and i guess they um he chris collins chris collins yeah chris
collins chris said that uh you know he there was like some insider trading his son did with some
kind of thing and then they basically they used it to take him out basically i mean his son was
guilty i mean sure they did was kind of like you know that's what i think i think it was you know
there's definitely guilt there but like you know what what level of guilt do we have here is it you
know six month probation is your first offense do you go to jail for a year i mean those are all
you know reasonable outcomes but then they used it to go after him try to get him into it and he
basically took the fall for his son because he didn't want his son to go to jail for 10 years
whatever it may be and um you know yeah they can i mean i worked with a number of people in dc who
you know in the intelligence realm who did not wouldn't have kids and it was just like a commonly
known like you might
ask them like oh do you have kids are you gonna
have kids you know no I'm not gonna have kids
because I'm gonna continue my career
and you know children would be
too much leverage yeah I mean that
is like so common
this is just widely
accepted this is how they work
and you know you
see all this stuff about like politicians
being pedophiles and
it's
because they get elevated they take people
that are corruptible they corrupt
them and then they elevate them so that they can be controlled you know i mean these are not wild
theories these this is how it all works yeah i mean there would be tv shows about this kind of
stuff if it didn't happen you know that's based on real events and stuff that happens in political
games that are played and it's been it's been this way for forever yes you know yeah um you know
they sunk the titanic they did the towers on 9 11 i mean there's nothing they won't do you think
they're not going to target like one woman i mean you know yeah what what dr robert epstein is doing
is just like so insanely huge i just love how he brings like the evidence and he's got it on video
and he's got that stuff i think to me like that's amazing like the research that he's doing yeah
it's irrefutable it's irrefutable exactly um this one's really hard to research the flynn stuff is
super um there's a lot of gray area in there because there's so much propaganda that has been
put out uh supporting like the counter narrative that they built against Flynn so I'm not surprised
I mean I'm pretty sure didn't he call out all the shit that was happening in uh that like under the
Biden administration that Hillary Clinton they were doing they basically armed ISIS and they
armed the rebels it's like the United States trying to play God all over the world you know
We always think we're God.
We can perfectly, okay, you know, like we armed the Taliban when Russia was there because it's like the enemy of your enemy is your friend.
It's like, no, the enemy of your enemy is not always your fucking friend.
But let's send them a pallet of cash anyway.
You know, the enemy of your enemy is probably still the enemy a lot of times.
And they might even be worse than your original enemy.
It's like the devil.
That's why there's that phrase that's held true for a very long time, that the devil you know is often better than the devil you don't.
so so basically i think flun blew the whistle on all of the the cash and the weapons and shit that
we gave to the islamic rebels to find assad and then basically they used all that and they turned
into isis and they created their caliphate where they were chopping people's heads off and doing
all sorts of crazy stuff so you know it's just kind of crazy that's that was my understanding
of why they went after him but what do you know about it no i that's all accurate and then the
russia the like i think he also blew the whistle on the beginning formation of like the russia
stuff um and there's a really good he put his own documentary together for those that are not
familiar with what happened with Flynn um and I think it's called just Flynn it's just the name
of the documentary you can watch it uh on Apple TV uh but they used his son they arrested his son
brought charges you know uh they they went after him and ultimately ended up like going after his
son and I think they got him that way that's how they got Chris Collins too yeah yeah so like
it's just that this is so common I guess is like what I would scream from the rooftops is is not
even necessarily you know people get hung up on like I'll use Flynn as an example oh I don't like
Flynn or Epstein is a good example because like you said there's so much data and it's also
he's not really political he's never really um but it's not about any single person right it's
just the fact that these things are commonplace is to me like the thing that I want people to
understand interesting wow because people think it's it's like most people think it's not possible
and again like it's not only possible it's probable like these things are common politics
is such a dirty game i try to i ran for like mosquito control when i was like 18 did you
really i did yeah in florida yep no right here yeah it was like my motto was fight the bite
And like the amount of like the amount of like just disgusting human behavior I witnessed just mosquito control.
Wow.
All of the drama and county commissioners coming up talking to me and telling me like, oh, my God, I don't like your opponent, blah, blah, blah.
And then like the next day they go in the paper and endorse the opponent.
Like this bitch just sat with me for 30 minutes and told me how she doesn't like X, Y and Z.
And then she goes in the in the paper and endorses my opponents.
Like, what?
Right.
It's like, why even come up to me?
I just I just saw so much like shady behavior.
just like just in mosquito it was like just disgusting you tell me you're gonna take gates
down i just said i was i can't remember what i said i think i think my whole motto was i wanted
to because like lee county yeah i'd put like uh they put minnows in the ditches okay the larva
yeah so that was like what i was promoting i was like hey we're doing all the spraying but we don't
why don't we use minnows too right but that was my whole campaign was like yeah just like why don't
we just drop some minnows in all these ditches we have in naples like right so many ditches that
full of water and that's where all the mosquitoes are breeding like just throw like 100 minnows in
each one and that makes sense to me you probably won't have to spray as much ddt or whatever the
hell they're just spraying all over everybody and i'm like why am i growing a third ear
you know what do it put minnows there it was pretty simple uh you know oh that's amazing yeah
i was like well how are we going to do that i'm like well we have a huge you know i'm looking at
the budget i'm like because you could look at the budget and you can see what the mosquito
control budget wings and i was like there's all this unnecessary shit it's like you could you could
with 50 grand you could make a giant like swimming pool in one of the right the helicopter hangers
and you could just grow a bunch of minnows in there and then you just scoop them in and just
go drop them in all the ditches yeah i was just i was like it's not that hard like oh it's too
expensive to grow i'm like it's not very expensive to grow minnows you you make a little tank and you
throw a bunch of uh you know dope pen in there and then in a week there'll be 5 000 right right
Oh my gosh.
Wait, so you didn't win?
No, I didn't win.
I didn't.
The corrupt guy won.
So the guy.
Because he made deals and shit.
No, no.
Well, yeah, the guy, that guy never actually had run the election.
That was one of the reasons I ran against him.
He was appointed.
Okay.
So a lot of these things can be appointed.
They don't have to ever run against anybody.
They're just appointed by the governor or whatever.
So this guy, I mean, you know, I didn't know too much about the guy.
So somebody got appointed.
But then what I didn't realize and what I should have researched.
this was my uh high school guidance counselor he was like pushing me to do this yeah good guy
and he is you know he was uh very politically motivated here locally and i think his wife uh
was like a cut like cousins with john f kennedy okay so she was like uh basically helped him win
his election way back in the day and they were very very great people he shows me pictures he's
with martin luther king jr and he's just um his name's neil neil curly so hopefully he rests in
piece uh he recently passed the past two years about two years ago sadly um but great man great
family uh his wife joan was she was fantastic as well but uh yeah he was kind of just like hey you
should care about being civically minded and engaged and do something and he's like look he's
like here's a here's a perfect opportunity you know you're that you're in college and you know
you can you can make an impact here and you can contribute to the to the county this way i was
like okay i'll you know i'll i'll do it if you will be my campaign manager he's like yeah i'll
be your campaign manager so so we did it and uh what i didn't what i didn't research was that
um if you look at the mosquito control council it's like there's like five people or whatever
and like all their last names are like the first five letters of the alphabet yeah so it's so far
down the list that the first name voter advantage is so insane that like 99 of the time whoever's
first always wins and so they they list it alphabetically so if like your name is like
you know if your last name is like bob or or apple or you know dave or whatever it may be like so i'm
looking at the board it's like all so i didn't realize that like yeah nobody had won this election
as the second name in like 50 years or something because nobody's paying attention yeah yeah exactly
nobody's paying attention so people are like oh what the hell is mosquito control right how are
these lower races people just like they just fill out the first bubble right so huh so they don't
feel stupid so yeah i didn't mean like that's the kind of shit that if people were involved it'd be
easy to fix you know what i mean like i don't know put each election every ballot yeah there
should be two separate there should be two separate ballots every time to eliminate that
first name voter advantage all of the ballots some of the ballots should have the second person's
name first you should do 50 50 that way like that can't interfere right there you go actively select
the person that's how they should deal with that type of stuff yeah right i mean there's a reason
right like a republic if you can keep it i mean we have very nearly lost it and so this idea that
like oh you know don't do anything because it's not gonna fucking matter like no it can matter
like there's so much common sense to be had like if we could just deploy some common sense
you know like put minnows in the pond it's not rocket it was not rocket science it was a very
simple thing and they're like well this will never work i'm like well there's plenty of other counties
that are actually doing this and it's working right imagine like you had you know and people
get like discouraged it is discouraging like oh i have to have an a last name or some bullshit
no like just fix that like go and fix that and i know that it's annoying and it's been you know
we've been through this sigh up of like oh it doesn't matter and it's not cool and all that
bullshit but like these things are fixable none of it is rocket science like i don't know fix it or
will we ever get fair elections again that's one of my favorite conspiracy theories that i
vehemently believe in do you think that we will no i don't know i mean until we get it on a
blockchain or use something like what uh i think it's what is uh if only simple proof something
like um carlos toriello have you seen his simple proof no oh yes take the results at all the
precincts and they they they hash the image into a hash and they put it on the on block so you don't
even need to do that like use a fucking piece of paper florida has paper ballots we get all of our
votes counted on the same night like presidential elections same night yeah done like you know no
it can be done that way absolutely done paper ballot like you know and sure there's fraud that
can be done there but they've got two weeks to count the votes and all this stuff that shit's
got to stop right that shit has to stop right i mean that's totally corrupt yeah even if it's not
nobody's gonna believe it because it's just it's the appearance of it is so bad yeah yeah and then
they're just you know drop boxes and mail-in ballots and there's these mules going out
everywhere just collecting like i think in california they just send ballots everywhere
so people just go around to different addresses and just pick up 100 chunks then they don't
verify the signature i mean the whole thing is just bullshit you know yeah well with in places
where it's structured like california versus florida i think is a really good example because
there is still like in california it's absolutely like there's fraud everywhere but it can matter if
you just maintain like a little bit of control over the structure of what's happening right like
in florida we show a license you have to be a fucking person with a license and you use a piece
of paper and the paper gets counted and like there there's nothing i mean and then you look at for
like california is all piles and piles of ballots right but like they could fix it they could go and
take over and demand that this shit gets fixed and who could become more like florida who could
fix it like the people oh the people lots of republicans or people that are not really they've
imported like fucking well at this million aliens there yeah i mean i really think we're at a point
where like if it's not fixed now yeah that's how i felt this past election i was like this is it i
mean if you can't you know and i think uh elon was saying the same thing he was like it's just so bad
that they're bringing in so many people
and the voting procedures and all this.
It's just so captured.
I mean, it's just so...
We either go radical now.
Yeah, you have to.
Like either the Trump's election,
winning the popular vote,
all of that,
either that was like a turning point
where people dial up the radicalness
and take the country back,
or it's gone.
We have a uniparty.
They've imported enough voters.
And if that happens,
then okay like i give up i agree voting will not matter but we i still believe that like the system
can be reformed and that i mean we could have a convention of states we can require voter id
you know there's things that could be done but people have to do something they can't just like
just want to throw in so important what you're saying and that something that's been circulating
recently is this idea of referendum states and how you can collect like 10 000 signatures and
that's it and you can have this initiative this citizens initiative to literally modify state law
and you could actually require a blockchain voting mechanism or just vote or just license
what are you talking about what are you talking about is this something that's in the constitution
that the federal government says that so apparently there's like multiple referendum states and i
think florida's one of them i'll find out but because usually what they do is that like they'll
do that they'll do that but then they'll put it on the next ballot as like a an amendment or
something what's it called like a yes or no or something like that yeah in in florida i think
so we do see a lot of that i think in florida because every every time i vote i always see
vote yes or vote no on amendment 14 and yes or vote no on amendment 15 it's like you can
i don't know if that's this or there are there are like structures in place so that people can
force change to the
state constitutions.
And then the states also, you can do
a convention of states.
The floor is a partially
referendum state.
So it allows
citizens to initiate a constitutional amendment
through a ballot initiative process.
So it looks like they can collect signatures
to propose amendments, and then it goes
directly to the voters on the ballot.
Yeah, they need
60% approval.
Recent examples include amendments on abortion rights and marijuana in 2024.
However, Florida does not allow citizen...
Go back up a little bit.
I want to see what they don't allow.
It does not allow citizen...
Statutes.
Okay, new regular laws or veto referendums.
So like this yes for citizen initiated changes to the Constitution, right?
So when you look at all this voter fraud that happened,
One thing in Pennsylvania that happened is that the legislator or whatever body it was going into 2020, they made a state constant, a change to the state constitution to allow for all those mail in ballots because it was not constitutional.
Yeah.
And so like that shit needs to be stripped back away so that the people of Pennsylvania can vote in a way that matters.
Right.
Well, they caught those mules this time.
Yeah.
Thousands of fake ballots like the last day.
Did you see that?
In Pennsylvania?
What never happens happened again.
Right.
So many coincidences.
Right.
No, people, you know, people, I don't know.
I take a lot of heat.
Everybody's like, oh, vote harder.
And I'm just like, okay, like be ruled by a blue haired far left citizen.
You know, like, I don't know.
I just, I think the time is now.
Like either we get involved and we take the country back or it's gone.
and thank God for dentists in Florida.
How does states' rights play into all this?
Because I'm so happy to be in Florida.
If people in Seattle or whatever,
they want to live like that and have total craziness,
the inmates ruling the asylum,
part of me is like, okay, let them do it.
Let them do your thing.
The only problem, though, that I have
is my tax dollars going to the federal government.
And then the federal government,
we're paying for half of Somaliland right now in Somalia
and all these places over there
because of the massive fraud that's hurting going in Minnesota.
So I'm like, if they want to do it, I'm fine with it.
But don't take our money to do it.
Right.
Well, I think they should abolish the federal income tax.
Yeah, I think so, too.
Goes without a shadow of a doubt.
And my only like caution with that, like, I feel like DeSantis is like our last line of defense.
He's such a good governor.
He's such a good like an administrator.
Imagine you're living under Newsom.
Oh, man.
Right.
I mean, there's like you mentioned Seattle, which is a cesspool.
But there are people that live in the state of Washington that are not complete fucking tics.
Like...
Like what happens in Florida after DeSantis?
Like, could you imagine?
I mean, I think is, who are we going to get after him?
Is it, will it be Byron Donald?
Byron?
I like Byron.
There's a lot of psyops happening already though.
I know Byron actually.
So much.
I mean, I was telling you my political story.
Yeah, yeah.
So I told you how I ran for mosquito control.
Actually, I saw Byron.
He's a good big Bitcoin guy.
He was at the Bitcoin conference.
And I was like, I talked to him.
I was like, I told the story because the very first mic,
I told you about Neil, my mentor.
He's like, you got to go to talk to, you got to go to like these events, these like campaign events.
So like the very first event I ever went to, I was with Byron and we, he was running for, I can't remember what it was.
It was like county commissioner or something.
It was like his first kind of like foray into politics.
It was mine too.
And he, we show up at Perkins and it's just like me and him.
And like, he's like a skinny, he's really skinny.
And like, I was really, I was like much more fit and skinny.
I'm still like strong, but like I didn't have like a, you know, this.
You got kids.
Yeah, I got kids.
So when I saw him, I was like, I was like, yo, we both put on.
What year was this?
This was like 20.
No, when you first met him.
Oh, this was like 20.
I want to say between like maybe like 2012, 2011, 2013.
Yeah.
This was like, you know, a decade ago.
Yeah.
And like we walk into Perkins, it's just like me and Byron.
And there's like just five, like 70 to 90 year old ladies.
Yes.
And that's all it was.
so it was like me and byron just like talking to these old ladies is like yeah like i want to put
minnows in the fucking in the thing they're like oh that's so nice and byron's like talking his
stuff and like so i reminded him like you i'm like he's like oh my god he's like i remember that
and i'm like and he's like everything runs through the old ladies yeah that's what he told me i was
like you're so right oh my god no people ask me all the time like who uses your bitcoin atms the
Old ladies do.
Yeah.
Isn't that wild?
Are you gonna run for Congress
when Byron becomes our next governor
and a seat is vacant?
Am I gonna run?
No Why not I disgusted with being part of like I realized when I ran for mosquito control and I wouldn talk about them I do not want But then who But I like this I like this I like being able to have a microphone and talk about it and do stuff
You know what I mean?
So yeah, I don't know.
I think they'll find some good-
I have no desire to be involved.
I know.
I understand.
I feel the same way.
Who knows?
That could change in the future.
But as I am now,
I do care about what's happening,
but I think I can effectuate change in other ways.
Sure.
Did you guys see James O'Keefe's tweet
about this subject recently?
No.
he really hits it on the head,
essentially just saying that if you're not willing to get some skin in the
game,
then like,
we really can't complain about how bad it is.
Right.
But he,
he literally said like,
if you don't want to,
if you're not willing to put your neck on the line,
I feel that way.
And yeah,
I'm confronted with the,
having a podcast is putting your neck on the line.
Oh yeah.
No,
you,
you know,
absolutely.
I'll send political donations to candidates.
I like,
and people I like and stuff,
you know,
I'll do it that way.
But as of right now,
I,
I was want to be the candidate.
I respect it. You got your lane. But the point he was making was that if you aren't ever put in a position where you are faced with the challenge of whether or not to do the right thing or risk yours or your family's life, right?
Then until that moment, you really don't have the grounds to judge, right? Because unless you're in that position, who knows what decision you'll make.
Right.
Yeah, true. Good point.
yeah it's true yeah hey i took china kickback money when you how did that work well after we
toured the ghost cities you know what i mean we all went home and pretended they were 30 percent
occupied and collected our bonus checks oh that's classic oh yes 30 percent occupied meanwhile like
landing in a helicopter in the middle of the street and there's one guy with a room who's
never seen another human in his life why don't we yes we have all the homeless people here man
why don't we send the Somalis there?
Wouldn't that be,
maybe Trump can negotiate that.
That would be a good deal.
Hey,
China,
we'll take off these tariffs and you just take like 50,
5 million Somalians Put them in the ghost cities That sounds like a great deal Wow Somebody negotiate that Yeah Don they like make they recreate like you know different places than China too
Oh,
yes.
Disneyland.
So maybe they can just,
it's like nicer than ours.
They can recreate Somaliland there too.
And then just,
that would be perfect.
I love,
you're in charge.
I love them.
Oh my gosh.
Well,
they said the Buccaneer.
I actually,
I actually watched like,
you know,
the situation is so messed up,
you know,
like,
i think there was one like somalian who was like blowing the whistle on it did you see him he was
like talking about how like they have no desire to assimilate most they don't he's like he's like
when i got here i was like well he basically wanted to get a job and like do stuff and like
literally the whole community was like no don't do that just get this get the get on the government
paycheck and do this and get the grants and whatever yeah and he's like no like i didn't
come here to do this i came here to assimilate yeah so he was like blowing the whistle on it yeah so
So that's why I really don't like the idea of identity politics.
I don't like that.
I like that people can be their own individuals.
I always fall back to this thing of the individual is the ultimate minority.
I love that quote.
It's like we have to protect the individual.
Because just because you're this race or this sex or this ethnicity or this whatever it may be,
yes, you can look at trends and patterns.
and certain, if you judge people as a population, patterns emerge, behavior patterns.
But that doesn't mean there aren't individuals in each race or each subset or each thing that
can be themselves and they could be different than the majority or whatever, right?
So I think it's so important to still treat people as individuals because some of the
Somalis themselves were the biggest whistleblowers on this whole issue.
Right, right.
And that's important, you know what I mean?
Because nobody knows the inside details more than insiders.
So, no, I completely agree. Like, I'm not against all Somalis categorically. It's the ones that are not assimilating. It's the ones in which is seems like the majority of that group.
It is the majority. So, yeah, you know, which, you know, we should welcome whether you're Somali, whatever. And I do welcome if you want to assimilate into part of America.
I good with that Contribute That how I feel Right But the problem is like no that like that not what we been encouraging here That not what we been And it just falls back to incentives right It like show me the incentives I show you the outcome If we fly people here and bring them here you know we give NGOs hundreds of millions
of dollars and billions of dollars to go facilitate the mass migration of people that could never
come here themselves, had no probably desire to come here themselves.
You know, they were just given a free meal ticket, a free house, all these free things,
right, at the expense of the American taxpayer.
that shit just has to totally stop.
Totally.
And the people that are responsible for that
should really suffer consequences, I think.
They should get wrecked.
Well, before we wrap up here, Michelle,
is there any other topic you want to talk about?
We did pretty good.
Yeah, we covered a lot of stuff.
Hyperinflation is coming.
They might kill you.
Get over it and get involved anyway.
I mean, that's encouraging, isn't it?
We always have great...
I think we have great conversational chemistry, Michelle.
Yeah, no, you're great.
It just takes me a moment to adjust to get your podcast voice going.
It always hits me.
But you have the coolest podcast studio that I have ever been in.
And for those that don't know, they can just bring their jet here.
Land, come hang out, take off.
It's perfect, yeah.
It's perfect, a day on the tarmac.
When are we going to get a bright orange Bitcoin little plane?
did you see my matrix bitcoin up there yeah i've seen that what's the number a thousand
no i said once bitcoin hits 500 000 500 oh that hey i'll take that i was gonna say a million
all right 500k we're gonna have a bright orange plane right out this window i'm gonna fly a
helicopter be a whole new world michelle it's been a pleasure
Bye.