1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,038 At the end of the day, I think 2 00:00:03,094 --> 00:00:06,446 close to the picture, and they 3 00:00:06,518 --> 00:00:10,142 owning as much bitcoin as 4 00:00:10,206 --> 00:00:13,134 Bitcoin is actually the means 5 00:00:13,262 --> 00:00:16,694 And the end that we're trying 6 00:00:16,822 --> 00:00:20,086 outcomes that we want to 7 00:00:20,158 --> 00:00:23,790 And so if someone is, you 8 00:00:23,830 --> 00:00:26,118 married, you know, three young 9 00:00:26,134 --> 00:00:28,534 can go to christian school, 10 00:00:28,582 --> 00:00:33,306 a family vacation twice a year 11 00:00:33,338 --> 00:00:36,674 or whatever to make those 12 00:00:36,722 --> 00:00:40,682 And, you know, they have these 13 00:00:40,826 --> 00:00:43,270 impact the fulfillment of 14 00:00:43,770 --> 00:00:45,890 That's what we're trying to achieve. 15 00:00:45,970 --> 00:00:48,630 It's not just own as much 16 00:00:53,290 --> 00:00:57,690 Welcome to the Business 17 00:00:57,730 --> 00:01:01,242 to helping you enrich your 18 00:01:01,266 --> 00:01:05,094 bitcoin, the hardest money on 19 00:01:05,222 --> 00:01:08,390 I'm your host, Josh Friedman, 20 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:09,678 of strong wealth. 21 00:01:09,774 --> 00:01:12,038 We're going to be talking 22 00:01:12,134 --> 00:01:16,214 is not a sufficient financial 23 00:01:16,262 --> 00:01:19,758 that Mitch thinks bitcoin will 24 00:01:19,774 --> 00:01:20,534 financial industry. 25 00:01:20,622 --> 00:01:22,726 We're going to get to our 26 00:01:22,758 --> 00:01:23,330 this. 27 00:01:40,713 --> 00:01:42,573 Mitch, welcome to the show. 28 00:01:43,033 --> 00:01:44,193 Excited to be here, Josh. 29 00:01:44,233 --> 00:01:46,253 I think we're going to have a 30 00:01:46,843 --> 00:01:47,635 Absolutely. 31 00:01:47,739 --> 00:01:50,011 So I like to start off every 32 00:01:50,027 --> 00:01:52,291 that help us to get to know 33 00:01:52,307 --> 00:01:54,043 us some insight for our own lives. 34 00:01:54,083 --> 00:01:54,891 So you ready for these? 35 00:01:54,987 --> 00:01:55,499 Yep. 36 00:01:55,611 --> 00:01:58,379 Question number one is this, 37 00:01:58,411 --> 00:01:59,303 about bitcoin? 38 00:01:59,883 --> 00:02:03,499 Yeah, so it came up at a few 39 00:02:03,691 --> 00:02:05,823 Initially was actually 2017. 40 00:02:06,683 --> 00:02:10,971 I was in college at the time, 41 00:02:11,027 --> 00:02:12,803 room was talking about it. 42 00:02:12,843 --> 00:02:16,291 He was talking about how the 43 00:02:16,307 --> 00:02:20,371 he was thinking about buying 44 00:02:20,387 --> 00:02:22,155 got from his parents or 45 00:02:22,219 --> 00:02:25,603 And at the time, I was working 46 00:02:25,643 --> 00:02:26,091 finance. 47 00:02:26,107 --> 00:02:28,451 So you think I may have, you 48 00:02:28,467 --> 00:02:32,259 than I was, but with my own 49 00:02:32,291 --> 00:02:34,251 any to invest, so I kind of 50 00:02:34,307 --> 00:02:38,699 And, you know, we all probably 51 00:02:38,731 --> 00:02:43,719 earlier than we actually did, 52 00:02:43,751 --> 00:02:46,903 an interesting story, uh, that 53 00:02:46,943 --> 00:02:49,783 this is, uh, prvious to 54 00:02:49,823 --> 00:02:53,399 You know, my business now, I 55 00:02:53,431 --> 00:02:56,159 I was taking a lot of investor 56 00:02:56,271 --> 00:03:00,999 This was from, like, uh, start 57 00:03:01,031 --> 00:03:02,175 in 2021. 58 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:08,879 Um, and it was during the 59 00:03:08,951 --> 00:03:10,375 market crash in history. 60 00:03:10,519 --> 00:03:13,327 You know, we were hitting 61 00:03:13,455 --> 00:03:16,971 Um, there was like 3000 calls 62 00:03:17,027 --> 00:03:20,995 People were waiting hours just 63 00:03:21,019 --> 00:03:21,899 know what was going on. 64 00:03:21,971 --> 00:03:25,875 And there were a lot of trades 65 00:03:25,899 --> 00:03:27,219 getting filled correctly for. 66 00:03:27,291 --> 00:03:29,515 And so they're calling in 67 00:03:29,699 --> 00:03:32,803 And so it had been a super 68 00:03:32,963 --> 00:03:38,771 I was taking 10 hours of calls 69 00:03:38,787 --> 00:03:41,059 was late at night, things were 70 00:03:41,211 --> 00:03:46,029 And I got a guy call in, and 71 00:03:46,101 --> 00:03:46,637 questions. 72 00:03:46,685 --> 00:03:48,793 I can't even remember exactly 73 00:03:49,253 --> 00:03:52,853 But then he started to talk to 74 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:57,693 strategy and how buying gold 75 00:03:57,733 --> 00:04:03,077 some in his house was actually 76 00:04:03,165 --> 00:04:05,821 or maybe protection strategy, 77 00:04:05,997 --> 00:04:10,757 And I had gotten a couple of 78 00:04:10,885 --> 00:04:13,381 And so I started just to 79 00:04:13,397 --> 00:04:14,077 was saying. 80 00:04:14,245 --> 00:04:17,305 Sometimes you can kind of tune 81 00:04:17,329 --> 00:04:17,561 while. 82 00:04:17,617 --> 00:04:20,533 They love talking to the 83 00:04:21,673 --> 00:04:25,457 And then he stops and he says, 84 00:04:25,585 --> 00:04:26,689 Who knows why? 85 00:04:26,841 --> 00:04:28,713 But he said, you seem like a 86 00:04:28,793 --> 00:04:32,601 Did you know that the Federal 87 00:04:32,617 --> 00:04:33,729 the government at all? 88 00:04:33,761 --> 00:04:35,625 It's actually a private institution. 89 00:04:35,809 --> 00:04:40,401 And at that moment, I just, I 90 00:04:40,497 --> 00:04:41,081 had failed me. 91 00:04:41,097 --> 00:04:42,209 You know, I studied finance. 92 00:04:42,241 --> 00:04:42,673 I was. 93 00:04:42,753 --> 00:04:46,121 I thought I knew more than the 94 00:04:46,297 --> 00:04:47,969 But he said that to me, and I 95 00:04:48,001 --> 00:04:48,561 And I never. 96 00:04:48,617 --> 00:04:50,433 That has never been said to me before. 97 00:04:50,553 --> 00:04:53,521 So I was like, uh, no, I 98 00:04:53,577 --> 00:04:56,017 And he goes on to tell me a 99 00:04:56,025 --> 00:04:59,169 And he said, well, there's a 100 00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:01,561 And he recommends the creature 101 00:05:01,697 --> 00:05:03,233 You've probably heard of it. 102 00:05:03,393 --> 00:05:06,825 And that conversation sat with me. 103 00:05:06,849 --> 00:05:09,753 I didn't necessarily take 104 00:05:09,793 --> 00:05:13,265 Cause he didn't explain to me 105 00:05:13,289 --> 00:05:15,653 That's just all he said, and 106 00:05:16,473 --> 00:05:20,409 And so that was really the 107 00:05:20,481 --> 00:05:23,561 hidden truths of our financial 108 00:05:23,577 --> 00:05:24,545 to bitcoin. 109 00:05:24,729 --> 00:05:27,673 And then from there, bitcoin 110 00:05:27,793 --> 00:05:31,081 I'm going to start this 111 00:05:31,217 --> 00:05:34,441 and I know that I need to 112 00:05:34,457 --> 00:05:36,081 able to guide our clients well. 113 00:05:36,217 --> 00:05:40,881 And so I start listening to 114 00:05:40,897 --> 00:05:45,921 the podcasts I can find, and 115 00:05:45,977 --> 00:05:50,557 And I wouldn't say it fully 116 00:05:50,605 --> 00:05:54,893 and the problem that bitcoin 117 00:05:55,013 --> 00:05:57,661 and followed through on that 118 00:05:57,677 --> 00:05:58,725 of Jekyll island. 119 00:05:58,869 --> 00:06:04,429 At that point, the light bulb 120 00:06:04,461 --> 00:06:05,069 then on. 121 00:06:05,181 --> 00:06:05,893 It's really cool. 122 00:06:05,933 --> 00:06:09,989 I mean, first of all, I'm a 123 00:06:10,021 --> 00:06:10,989 service has always been excellent. 124 00:06:11,021 --> 00:06:13,781 The people that you're talking 125 00:06:13,877 --> 00:06:14,181 great. 126 00:06:14,237 --> 00:06:17,159 So appreciate you for being 127 00:06:17,191 --> 00:06:20,639 cool to think that someone 128 00:06:20,671 --> 00:06:22,895 end, talking to customer 129 00:06:22,919 --> 00:06:25,767 the customers themselves can 130 00:06:25,815 --> 00:06:28,591 when it comes to helping 131 00:06:28,607 --> 00:06:29,343 what money isn't. 132 00:06:29,383 --> 00:06:32,727 So as a very interesting 133 00:06:32,775 --> 00:06:35,927 to other people as they're 134 00:06:35,975 --> 00:06:37,043 online in the future. 135 00:06:37,783 --> 00:06:38,807 Yeah, for sure. 136 00:06:38,895 --> 00:06:39,327 Yeah. 137 00:06:39,415 --> 00:06:43,879 The common greeting of that 138 00:06:43,991 --> 00:06:46,563 what the is going on with my account? 139 00:06:47,063 --> 00:06:48,523 You can fill in the blank. 140 00:06:49,143 --> 00:06:49,567 Yeah. 141 00:06:49,615 --> 00:06:50,263 Yeah. 142 00:06:50,423 --> 00:06:55,215 So question number two is, 143 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,015 that you wish everyone understood? 144 00:06:57,159 --> 00:06:59,279 I wouldn't say it's about 145 00:06:59,351 --> 00:07:02,767 It's actually about our 146 00:07:02,815 --> 00:07:08,855 the theft, corruption, and 147 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:10,783 financial system allows to happen. 148 00:07:10,943 --> 00:07:14,359 Like I said, for my own 149 00:07:14,391 --> 00:07:16,903 until I read the fiat standard 150 00:07:16,943 --> 00:07:19,263 that things really clicked for 151 00:07:19,343 --> 00:07:21,775 root problem and the 152 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:25,335 So that's really what I wish 153 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:30,991 bitcoin would come so easy to 154 00:07:31,127 --> 00:07:34,175 Question number three, what's 155 00:07:34,239 --> 00:07:35,063 to other people? 156 00:07:35,183 --> 00:07:38,071 Yeah, to non bitcoiners, I 157 00:07:38,087 --> 00:07:41,123 The fiat standard because of 158 00:07:41,783 --> 00:07:45,071 But to bitcoiners, which is a 159 00:07:45,087 --> 00:07:48,383 the last six months or so, I 160 00:07:48,423 --> 00:07:54,887 for bitcoin, kind of showing 161 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:58,295 and the economic kind of 162 00:07:58,319 --> 00:07:58,883 Bible. 163 00:07:59,663 --> 00:08:01,727 It's interesting, for sure. 164 00:08:01,895 --> 00:08:03,223 Question number four. 165 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:06,615 Beyond bitcoin, what's a 166 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:08,613 helpful to you or your work recently? 167 00:08:08,783 --> 00:08:12,897 I thought about this for a 168 00:08:12,945 --> 00:08:13,713 was coming. 169 00:08:13,873 --> 00:08:18,473 And, you know, I don't want 170 00:08:18,513 --> 00:08:23,897 but really, the best idea or 171 00:08:23,945 --> 00:08:27,025 has been my faith, my faith in Jesus. 172 00:08:27,089 --> 00:08:30,913 And so, you know, honestly, 173 00:08:30,953 --> 00:08:32,097 business has been slow. 174 00:08:32,185 --> 00:08:36,393 I've had some personal life 175 00:08:36,433 --> 00:08:38,561 it's been a tougher time, I 176 00:08:38,697 --> 00:08:42,289 Uh, but, you know, really 177 00:08:42,401 --> 00:08:43,257 gives me peace. 178 00:08:43,305 --> 00:08:46,025 Just knowing that it's all 179 00:08:46,049 --> 00:08:49,809 future is I just have to 180 00:08:49,841 --> 00:08:52,009 The lessons that I need to 181 00:08:52,041 --> 00:08:57,465 So that's, uh, I would say my 182 00:08:57,489 --> 00:08:58,545 in time in my life. 183 00:08:58,649 --> 00:08:59,961 So, question number five. 184 00:09:00,097 --> 00:09:03,369 We call it our arbitrary but 185 00:09:03,481 --> 00:09:07,801 As a general life principle, 186 00:09:07,887 --> 00:09:09,557 Yeah, this one didn't take me 187 00:09:09,645 --> 00:09:10,373 Why not? 188 00:09:10,493 --> 00:09:12,885 Was an easy answer for me. 189 00:09:13,069 --> 00:09:14,877 And I'll tell you why. 190 00:09:15,045 --> 00:09:18,885 Because when I started this 191 00:09:19,029 --> 00:09:20,269 around taking that leap. 192 00:09:20,301 --> 00:09:22,541 You know, quitting my job, 193 00:09:22,677 --> 00:09:25,701 There's a lot of stress, 194 00:09:25,757 --> 00:09:25,949 that. 195 00:09:25,981 --> 00:09:26,913 Come with that. 196 00:09:27,293 --> 00:09:32,053 But whenever I'm considering 197 00:09:32,213 --> 00:09:36,333 one frame that I like to look 198 00:09:36,373 --> 00:09:37,913 worst case scenario? 199 00:09:38,393 --> 00:09:42,945 And oftentimes, I find that 200 00:09:42,969 --> 00:09:46,321 as bad as we think until we 201 00:09:46,457 --> 00:09:50,953 And in that specific scenario, 202 00:09:50,993 --> 00:09:54,545 in business, I can just get 203 00:09:54,609 --> 00:09:57,665 You know, they're hiring 204 00:09:57,769 --> 00:09:59,089 love to have somebody like me. 205 00:09:59,121 --> 00:10:03,497 So my real worst case scenario 206 00:10:03,545 --> 00:10:06,961 back to my current life 207 00:10:07,017 --> 00:10:07,513 that case. 208 00:10:07,553 --> 00:10:09,833 So, for me, it's why nothing. 209 00:10:09,863 --> 00:10:15,021 Because the fear of the 210 00:10:15,037 --> 00:10:18,193 our minds than it actually 211 00:12:25,147 --> 00:12:28,739 Well, Mitch, we're here today 212 00:12:28,803 --> 00:12:29,027 wealth. 213 00:12:29,067 --> 00:12:33,367 You've already talked about it 214 00:12:33,907 --> 00:12:36,275 If you could share with us 215 00:12:36,291 --> 00:12:40,939 strong wealth and maybe who in 216 00:12:41,043 --> 00:12:43,827 We are really the wealth 217 00:12:43,907 --> 00:12:48,279 And, you know, we have worked 218 00:12:48,303 --> 00:12:52,607 bitcoin, all the way to 219 00:12:52,647 --> 00:12:57,347 bitcoin, and that's 100% of 220 00:12:57,807 --> 00:13:02,823 So it's a transition that, 221 00:13:02,855 --> 00:13:07,863 last three to six months of 222 00:13:08,015 --> 00:13:11,783 Previously, we had worked with 223 00:13:11,815 --> 00:13:12,735 a lot of value there. 224 00:13:12,791 --> 00:13:15,991 But we realized that we have 225 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:19,139 knowledge and believe that 226 00:13:19,163 --> 00:13:19,395 general. 227 00:13:19,451 --> 00:13:22,947 This is the direction that the 228 00:13:23,067 --> 00:13:25,211 If bitcoin plays out like we 229 00:13:25,259 --> 00:13:30,099 And so, and, yeah, so now, you 230 00:13:30,123 --> 00:13:33,731 of traditional financial 231 00:13:33,779 --> 00:13:37,075 things that come with that 232 00:13:37,131 --> 00:13:41,243 to really give bitcoiners who 233 00:13:41,275 --> 00:13:44,859 this area, you know, up to 234 00:13:44,923 --> 00:13:48,407 out there that do things 235 00:13:48,947 --> 00:13:52,579 But in large part, what we 236 00:13:52,603 --> 00:13:55,643 to maybe my current financial 237 00:13:55,675 --> 00:13:57,891 it all and it's 60% of my net worth. 238 00:13:57,979 --> 00:14:00,211 I'm like, why would I ever do that? 239 00:14:00,339 --> 00:14:04,115 Or they tell me I'm wrong, or 240 00:14:04,131 --> 00:14:06,267 in their analysis or whatever 241 00:14:06,307 --> 00:14:11,747 And so bitcoin has really run 242 00:14:11,827 --> 00:14:17,487 I believe in it, and, you 243 00:14:17,527 --> 00:14:21,287 find somebody to help me 244 00:14:21,367 --> 00:14:22,879 planning areas of my life. 245 00:14:23,023 --> 00:14:26,039 So I want to ask more about 246 00:14:26,063 --> 00:14:31,615 of how bitcoin starts to 247 00:14:31,751 --> 00:14:36,351 But first of all, I think 248 00:14:36,479 --> 00:14:41,181 new business owner, just over 249 00:14:41,229 --> 00:14:44,389 owners might get a lot of 250 00:14:44,413 --> 00:14:48,737 your process of figuring out 251 00:14:49,597 --> 00:14:51,029 marketing content on your website. 252 00:14:51,093 --> 00:14:53,277 Because one thing is, when I 253 00:14:53,357 --> 00:14:56,125 one of the first things that I 254 00:14:56,141 --> 00:15:00,157 this with you already, is your 255 00:15:00,237 --> 00:15:03,469 I'd just be interested to hear 256 00:15:03,533 --> 00:15:07,747 developing who you're reaching 257 00:15:07,867 --> 00:15:10,091 strategy looks like as a new business. 258 00:15:10,219 --> 00:15:11,787 Yeah, that's a great question. 259 00:15:11,947 --> 00:15:15,883 So we did, I started strong 260 00:15:15,995 --> 00:15:17,767 actually, it would be three 261 00:15:18,067 --> 00:15:19,003 That's pretty crazy. 262 00:15:19,075 --> 00:15:20,523 Wow, congrats. 263 00:15:20,675 --> 00:15:22,035 I appreciate it. 264 00:15:22,211 --> 00:15:23,307 But, yeah. 265 00:15:23,347 --> 00:15:27,059 So finding my target market, 266 00:15:27,163 --> 00:15:28,527 block, I would say. 267 00:15:28,867 --> 00:15:32,419 But the main question that I 268 00:15:32,443 --> 00:15:35,691 then even asked myself when we 269 00:15:35,739 --> 00:15:39,159 switch to only working with 270 00:15:39,223 --> 00:15:43,959 else was, who are we uniquely 271 00:15:44,103 --> 00:15:46,807 Like, that is the primary question. 272 00:15:46,967 --> 00:15:51,343 And previous to, you know, 273 00:15:51,375 --> 00:15:52,983 season of business, I should say. 274 00:15:53,175 --> 00:15:55,983 My answer to that was young 275 00:15:56,175 --> 00:15:57,919 I'm a young business owner. 276 00:15:57,983 --> 00:16:01,103 You know, I know the financial 277 00:16:01,175 --> 00:16:05,629 through the business related 278 00:16:05,693 --> 00:16:08,245 I can relate to everything 279 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:11,613 that they need, what, what, 280 00:16:11,725 --> 00:16:14,725 And I believe that I'm 281 00:16:14,781 --> 00:16:15,309 people. 282 00:16:15,453 --> 00:16:19,845 And, you know, being able to 283 00:16:19,901 --> 00:16:22,813 you know, outside of finance 284 00:16:22,845 --> 00:16:23,429 clients. 285 00:16:23,573 --> 00:16:27,893 And I was able to build up a, 286 00:16:27,925 --> 00:16:31,437 business that way, you know, 287 00:16:31,477 --> 00:16:36,345 about a year ago, and he was a 288 00:16:36,381 --> 00:16:36,577 Time. 289 00:16:36,617 --> 00:16:41,289 And so he's brought me even 290 00:16:41,313 --> 00:16:41,657 you will. 291 00:16:41,697 --> 00:16:45,593 But, yeah, when we decided to 292 00:16:45,665 --> 00:16:49,057 market is a bitcoiner who's married. 293 00:16:49,097 --> 00:16:50,537 It could be a business owner, 294 00:16:50,577 --> 00:16:55,657 He's got a few kids and he 295 00:16:55,697 --> 00:16:59,297 generous or he was an early 296 00:16:59,337 --> 00:17:02,653 and wants to pass that on to 297 00:17:02,785 --> 00:17:05,461 You know, when we're thinking 298 00:17:05,509 --> 00:17:09,189 positioned to serve that 299 00:17:09,213 --> 00:17:11,189 experience that we have in this. 300 00:17:11,253 --> 00:17:14,413 And honestly, not many others 301 00:17:14,445 --> 00:17:18,821 So that's the primary question 302 00:17:18,909 --> 00:17:21,097 a newer business owner is. 303 00:17:21,477 --> 00:17:22,229 Is that. 304 00:17:22,293 --> 00:17:25,181 And then, you know, it may 305 00:17:25,269 --> 00:17:28,557 So someone listening right now 306 00:17:28,637 --> 00:17:29,013 fit? 307 00:17:29,085 --> 00:17:30,469 Like I guess. 308 00:17:30,533 --> 00:17:31,757 How would you define bitcoiner? 309 00:17:31,797 --> 00:17:32,189 Like who. 310 00:17:32,213 --> 00:17:33,013 Who's a bitcoiner? 311 00:17:33,045 --> 00:17:33,453 Who's not? 312 00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:36,177 Is it just anyone who's opened 313 00:17:36,257 --> 00:17:36,545 plan? 314 00:17:36,601 --> 00:17:40,041 Or are you looking for someone 315 00:17:40,089 --> 00:17:43,265 intent with whatever bitcoin 316 00:17:43,281 --> 00:17:44,161 to have in the future? 317 00:17:44,289 --> 00:17:47,225 That's a great question, one 318 00:17:47,281 --> 00:17:48,289 our ideal client. 319 00:17:48,353 --> 00:17:53,129 And so we defined it as 320 00:17:53,193 --> 00:17:57,905 that if bitcoin were to become 321 00:17:57,921 --> 00:18:02,357 to zero, their financial 322 00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:06,059 So they have enough skin in 323 00:18:06,163 --> 00:18:09,755 a meaningful portion of their 324 00:18:09,891 --> 00:18:15,627 And because of that, we really 325 00:18:15,667 --> 00:18:17,203 large bitcoin allocation. 326 00:18:17,355 --> 00:18:20,767 So it's not somebody who is 327 00:18:22,547 --> 00:18:26,427 If someone comes in and 328 00:18:26,467 --> 00:18:27,515 and see where they are. 329 00:18:27,611 --> 00:18:30,883 But really, we want someone 330 00:18:30,915 --> 00:18:34,059 go straight down into the 331 00:18:34,123 --> 00:18:40,211 that surrounds that large 332 00:18:40,259 --> 00:18:45,963 has the potential to become 333 00:18:45,995 --> 00:18:46,563 the future. 334 00:18:46,675 --> 00:18:50,843 So then maybe we can get to 335 00:18:50,915 --> 00:18:52,859 planning go together, if 336 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:57,979 And that clarifying point 337 00:18:58,003 --> 00:18:59,309 actually have enough to wherever. 338 00:18:59,363 --> 00:19:03,625 If bitcoin goes to zero, which 339 00:19:03,641 --> 00:19:06,713 will happen, but if something 340 00:19:06,745 --> 00:19:10,637 tanks, then their lives would 341 00:19:10,977 --> 00:19:16,257 In that case, what types of 342 00:19:16,297 --> 00:19:16,593 with? 343 00:19:16,665 --> 00:19:20,209 So that if bitcoin were to 344 00:19:20,233 --> 00:19:21,437 be in that tight spot? 345 00:19:22,537 --> 00:19:24,237 Yeah, absolutely. 346 00:19:25,147 --> 00:19:29,087 If bitcoin were to 347 00:19:29,787 --> 00:19:33,955 we work with people who have 348 00:19:33,971 --> 00:19:37,787 bitcoin, all the way to 100% 349 00:19:37,907 --> 00:19:41,747 And we're okay with anywhere 350 00:19:41,867 --> 00:19:45,167 we're not going to convince 351 00:19:45,747 --> 00:19:50,347 And so really what we're 352 00:19:50,387 --> 00:19:54,889 has 80, 9100 percent of their 353 00:19:54,913 --> 00:19:58,577 make sure that they first 354 00:19:58,617 --> 00:19:59,273 making. 355 00:19:59,465 --> 00:20:02,985 You know, here are the 356 00:20:03,041 --> 00:20:06,761 that could happen, the various 357 00:20:06,929 --> 00:20:11,593 If they do play out, are you 358 00:20:11,785 --> 00:20:15,761 You know, we have to make sure 359 00:20:15,849 --> 00:20:17,997 understand the decision that 360 00:20:18,297 --> 00:20:22,375 Because at the end of the day, 361 00:20:22,391 --> 00:20:25,927 are really too close to the 362 00:20:26,007 --> 00:20:31,063 and realize that owning as 363 00:20:31,095 --> 00:20:31,987 end goal. 364 00:20:32,447 --> 00:20:35,375 Bitcoin is actually the means 365 00:20:35,471 --> 00:20:37,667 It's not the end in and of itself. 366 00:20:38,167 --> 00:20:42,511 The end that we're trying to 367 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:45,175 that we want to achieve for 368 00:20:45,311 --> 00:20:48,991 And so if someone is, you 369 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,111 married again, three kids, you 370 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,511 to put them through, you know, 371 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:58,199 to christian school, and they, 372 00:20:58,263 --> 00:21:02,391 twice a year and maybe buy a 373 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:03,103 to make. 374 00:21:03,135 --> 00:21:04,871 Make those memories and retire early. 375 00:21:04,919 --> 00:21:08,879 And, you know, they have these 376 00:21:09,023 --> 00:21:11,507 impact the fulfillment of 377 00:21:12,007 --> 00:21:14,087 That's what we're trying to achieve. 378 00:21:14,167 --> 00:21:16,631 It's not just own as much 379 00:21:16,719 --> 00:21:21,701 And so maybe that is 100% 380 00:21:21,749 --> 00:21:25,637 it's not for others, and we 381 00:21:25,677 --> 00:21:31,013 So really just making them 382 00:21:31,045 --> 00:21:34,253 could happen in the future is 383 00:21:34,445 --> 00:21:38,509 And if bitcoin does happen to 384 00:21:38,533 --> 00:21:40,805 think it's going to, and you 385 00:21:40,941 --> 00:21:44,555 And probably no one listening 386 00:21:44,611 --> 00:21:46,411 that anything is possible. 387 00:21:46,579 --> 00:21:49,067 Um, you know, a lot of things 388 00:21:49,107 --> 00:21:53,019 four years that even kind of 389 00:21:53,043 --> 00:21:55,395 in and of itself, and why it's necessary. 390 00:21:55,491 --> 00:21:57,707 We wouldn't have thought, you 391 00:21:57,747 --> 00:22:00,347 So that foundational 392 00:22:00,347 --> 00:22:03,979 to start with, with anybody 393 00:22:04,003 --> 00:22:06,563 sure that they are prepared 394 00:22:06,675 --> 00:22:09,659 Just mentally, you know, uh, 395 00:22:09,683 --> 00:22:13,643 Way, one of the things that 396 00:22:13,755 --> 00:22:17,383 that your family is prepared 397 00:22:17,415 --> 00:22:18,071 to you. 398 00:22:18,199 --> 00:22:19,591 So what would be some of those things? 399 00:22:19,639 --> 00:22:22,823 Maybe just high level things 400 00:22:22,935 --> 00:22:28,535 when it comes to making sure 401 00:22:28,591 --> 00:22:32,895 family would know how to 402 00:22:33,031 --> 00:22:37,359 a fulfilled life, at least 403 00:22:37,383 --> 00:22:37,823 gone. 404 00:22:37,935 --> 00:22:39,463 Yeah, absolutely. 405 00:22:39,575 --> 00:22:42,527 I think the estate planning 406 00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:47,407 value ads of our service that 407 00:22:47,447 --> 00:22:48,747 at this point in time. 408 00:22:49,287 --> 00:22:52,791 It's a big part of traditional 409 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,559 I don't think, fully 410 00:22:56,583 --> 00:22:59,183 to throw everything out of the 411 00:22:59,215 --> 00:23:01,387 hold, and that's all I need to do. 412 00:23:02,207 --> 00:23:05,407 So, yeah, there's really two 413 00:23:05,447 --> 00:23:06,027 about. 414 00:23:06,367 --> 00:23:10,399 When you want to pass bitcoin 415 00:23:10,423 --> 00:23:13,071 your kids, grandkids or maybe 416 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:16,695 it goes to your wife, you need 417 00:23:16,791 --> 00:23:18,327 possession of that bitcoin. 418 00:23:18,407 --> 00:23:21,719 You know, so, you know, by 419 00:23:21,863 --> 00:23:25,191 And then you also have to be 420 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:27,067 possession of that bitcoin. 421 00:23:27,447 --> 00:23:31,135 You know, obviously, we can't, 422 00:23:31,151 --> 00:23:34,159 in our hands, but making sure 423 00:23:34,223 --> 00:23:37,487 So, you know, when it comes to 424 00:23:37,527 --> 00:23:41,251 that a lot of bitcoiners don't 425 00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:45,483 trust in place of any kind, 426 00:23:45,515 --> 00:23:46,219 probate. 427 00:23:46,363 --> 00:23:49,875 And what that means is it's 428 00:23:49,891 --> 00:23:52,643 court is going to say they're 429 00:23:52,675 --> 00:23:54,835 the bitcoin goes to, and 430 00:23:54,851 --> 00:23:55,379 the world. 431 00:23:55,483 --> 00:24:00,675 How much bitcoin you own and 432 00:24:00,691 --> 00:24:03,883 a true bitcoiner, I don't 433 00:24:04,035 --> 00:24:08,803 Um, you know, privacy is 434 00:24:08,835 --> 00:24:11,923 bitcoiners and something that, 435 00:24:11,955 --> 00:24:12,863 with our service. 436 00:24:13,035 --> 00:24:16,807 And so making sure that we 437 00:24:16,847 --> 00:24:22,143 in place to legally, you know, 438 00:24:22,175 --> 00:24:26,839 avoid estate taxes in some, in 439 00:24:27,023 --> 00:24:29,767 And then when we look at just 440 00:24:29,847 --> 00:24:30,111 it. 441 00:24:30,159 --> 00:24:33,951 Okay, first we need to 442 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:39,725 you know, that will be secure 443 00:24:39,871 --> 00:24:43,313 for the people who need to get 444 00:24:43,505 --> 00:24:47,833 And so, you know, there are 445 00:24:47,865 --> 00:24:48,609 custody setups. 446 00:24:48,633 --> 00:24:52,193 You know, if somebody has a 447 00:24:52,225 --> 00:24:55,849 already kind of earmarking it 448 00:24:55,873 --> 00:24:59,321 we'll probably look at, you 449 00:24:59,369 --> 00:25:02,569 structure, getting it out of 450 00:25:02,673 --> 00:25:05,425 But then the custody set up 451 00:25:05,481 --> 00:25:08,605 bringing in a third party institution. 452 00:25:08,741 --> 00:25:10,957 You know, a lot of bitcoiners 453 00:25:11,117 --> 00:25:14,845 But then, you know, we can 454 00:25:14,901 --> 00:25:17,757 for the, for the grandkids, 455 00:25:17,797 --> 00:25:19,497 2030 years from now. 456 00:25:19,997 --> 00:25:22,805 And that can be facilitated 457 00:25:22,941 --> 00:25:25,605 It's really different for 458 00:25:25,661 --> 00:25:28,485 to make sure that you have the 459 00:25:28,501 --> 00:25:32,261 make sure the assets pass 460 00:25:32,349 --> 00:25:33,493 and avoid tax. 461 00:25:33,645 --> 00:25:36,583 And then we also need to make 462 00:25:36,615 --> 00:25:39,983 up in place that is both going 463 00:25:40,135 --> 00:25:41,567 Maintain your privacy if that. 464 00:25:41,607 --> 00:25:46,303 If that is, you know, very 465 00:25:46,335 --> 00:25:50,767 third parties if we want to, 466 00:25:50,847 --> 00:25:56,271 or our spouse on what bitcoin 467 00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:00,159 to be able to access it and 468 00:26:00,223 --> 00:26:03,887 manage it, well, because if 469 00:26:05,427 --> 00:26:09,147 you've spent your whole life 470 00:26:09,187 --> 00:26:12,499 sats, and they don't get it, 471 00:26:12,523 --> 00:26:16,123 sold right away and they're 472 00:26:16,155 --> 00:26:18,275 even invest in something else 473 00:26:18,371 --> 00:26:18,603 it. 474 00:26:18,635 --> 00:26:23,939 So at a high level, that's 475 00:26:23,963 --> 00:26:27,953 to think about when passing 476 00:26:28,075 --> 00:26:31,085 So we've been talking about 477 00:26:31,101 --> 00:26:35,749 of said people would have 478 00:26:35,893 --> 00:26:39,037 net worth savings investments 479 00:26:39,197 --> 00:26:45,581 But let's turn briefly to just 480 00:26:45,749 --> 00:26:51,189 How do you see bitcoin 481 00:26:51,293 --> 00:26:53,365 planning in the future? 482 00:26:53,501 --> 00:26:57,125 As I'm listening to podcasts, 483 00:26:57,141 --> 00:27:01,397 of looked down on, or there's 484 00:27:01,437 --> 00:27:02,069 about it. 485 00:27:02,173 --> 00:27:06,461 But how do you see things 486 00:27:06,589 --> 00:27:07,213 Oh, yeah. 487 00:27:07,245 --> 00:27:10,457 We could go many different 488 00:27:11,037 --> 00:27:15,277 I'll speak to something that I 489 00:27:15,317 --> 00:27:17,781 make financial advisors obsolete. 490 00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:22,085 We won't need to be 491 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:28,391 standard, and I would agree 492 00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:30,999 the financial industry obsolete. 493 00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:34,551 But financial planners 494 00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:41,727 ever be completely eliminated 495 00:27:41,767 --> 00:27:44,959 financial planning down to 496 00:27:45,023 --> 00:27:48,387 our money to the outcomes that 497 00:27:49,457 --> 00:27:53,757 Traditional financial advisors 498 00:27:54,177 --> 00:27:57,449 investing in a few index funds 499 00:27:57,473 --> 00:27:57,873 do. 500 00:27:57,985 --> 00:28:03,529 Yeah, they won't survive into 501 00:28:03,593 --> 00:28:07,001 is not forced to be an 502 00:28:07,089 --> 00:28:10,185 and build their wealth that 503 00:28:10,241 --> 00:28:13,841 then, yeah, they won't need 504 00:28:13,849 --> 00:28:17,505 is comprehensively looking at 505 00:28:17,561 --> 00:28:20,857 cash flow planning for goals, 506 00:28:20,897 --> 00:28:24,273 helping a family think through 507 00:28:24,345 --> 00:28:25,369 moving pieces. 508 00:28:25,553 --> 00:28:29,393 I don't think we're ever going 509 00:28:29,545 --> 00:28:32,057 If we are, then it'll be a 510 00:28:32,137 --> 00:28:36,197 So all that to say, if we go 511 00:28:36,777 --> 00:28:42,157 it will eliminate a large, 512 00:28:43,017 --> 00:28:48,585 But I think myself and the 513 00:28:48,641 --> 00:28:54,491 a one that will stick around 514 00:28:54,619 --> 00:28:58,539 So on a bitcoin standard that 515 00:28:58,563 --> 00:29:01,899 think are the first things to 516 00:29:02,043 --> 00:29:09,259 Well, I think, like I said, I 517 00:29:09,323 --> 00:29:15,571 on investments and managing 518 00:29:15,739 --> 00:29:18,307 you know, industries to go. 519 00:29:19,527 --> 00:29:22,107 Just because of what I 520 00:29:22,567 --> 00:29:25,703 Right now, because of our 521 00:29:25,735 --> 00:29:28,535 to be a professional investor 522 00:29:28,551 --> 00:29:30,479 already expected to be a 523 00:29:30,623 --> 00:29:35,039 And so that's what makes us, 524 00:29:35,103 --> 00:29:39,775 big and bloated, I would say, 525 00:29:39,831 --> 00:29:43,735 have derivatives and debt 526 00:29:43,791 --> 00:29:46,119 It gets so complex, insane. 527 00:29:46,263 --> 00:29:50,111 And so there's a large part of 528 00:29:50,199 --> 00:29:51,587 cut off, I guess. 529 00:29:52,127 --> 00:29:57,919 But yeah, I would say the 530 00:29:58,023 --> 00:30:03,255 that they will be one of the 531 00:30:03,271 --> 00:30:05,399 to a bitcoin standard tomorrow. 532 00:30:05,543 --> 00:30:08,423 So you've mentioned the 533 00:30:08,455 --> 00:30:12,463 times already and talked about 534 00:30:12,495 --> 00:30:15,759 and how there are downstream 535 00:30:15,783 --> 00:30:18,067 Could you talk a little bit 536 00:30:18,107 --> 00:30:18,611 you've seen? 537 00:30:18,699 --> 00:30:21,195 I'm guessing a lot of people 538 00:30:21,251 --> 00:30:24,651 bitcoiners and might already 539 00:30:24,739 --> 00:30:26,523 But I think it'd still be 540 00:30:26,555 --> 00:30:29,379 thoughts kind of expanding on 541 00:30:29,403 --> 00:30:30,187 a bit earlier. 542 00:30:30,347 --> 00:30:31,395 Yeah, absolutely. 543 00:30:31,451 --> 00:30:35,803 I mean, one, one thing that is 544 00:30:35,955 --> 00:30:38,515 and so fiat food. 545 00:30:38,691 --> 00:30:41,419 I don't know, I haven't read 546 00:30:41,443 --> 00:30:45,571 but in the fiat standard, he 547 00:30:45,699 --> 00:30:46,763 We could talk about education. 548 00:30:46,875 --> 00:30:50,487 We can go into the others, but 549 00:30:50,787 --> 00:30:57,371 With the inflationary system 550 00:30:57,419 --> 00:31:00,323 focused on profits and profit margins. 551 00:31:00,515 --> 00:31:05,267 They are looking to cut costs 552 00:31:05,387 --> 00:31:08,371 is advancing over time and 553 00:31:08,379 --> 00:31:09,787 a cheaper and cheaper cost. 554 00:31:09,947 --> 00:31:13,283 Our cost at the grocery store 555 00:31:13,355 --> 00:31:18,007 lowering the quality of the 556 00:31:18,427 --> 00:31:22,363 consistently buying at the 557 00:31:22,395 --> 00:31:26,155 to keep their costs as low as 558 00:31:26,291 --> 00:31:30,563 as high as possible, because 559 00:31:30,595 --> 00:31:34,875 street, is making sure that 560 00:31:34,891 --> 00:31:36,647 per share is always going up. 561 00:31:38,567 --> 00:31:43,447 The misaligned incentive there 562 00:31:43,487 --> 00:31:49,839 go into the dirt, I guess, and 563 00:31:49,903 --> 00:31:50,627 physically. 564 00:31:51,367 --> 00:31:56,287 And again, our financial 565 00:31:56,327 --> 00:31:57,495 than anyone else. 566 00:31:57,671 --> 00:32:00,191 Oppresses maybe would be the 567 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:05,215 And so because of their costs 568 00:32:05,231 --> 00:32:08,871 getting financially squeezed, 569 00:32:08,919 --> 00:32:14,179 cheap garbage food that is 570 00:32:14,323 --> 00:32:15,635 You know, it's. 571 00:32:15,811 --> 00:32:20,299 It's just kind of this 572 00:32:20,483 --> 00:32:26,275 you know, really starts to 573 00:32:26,331 --> 00:32:26,699 industries. 574 00:32:26,763 --> 00:32:31,363 But that's specifically what I 575 00:32:31,395 --> 00:32:31,707 important. 576 00:32:31,787 --> 00:32:33,379 One important area to me. 577 00:32:33,483 --> 00:32:36,603 So another thing you've talked 578 00:32:36,635 --> 00:32:36,843 faith. 579 00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:39,355 I'd love for you to talk a 580 00:32:39,411 --> 00:32:42,947 foundational for you and some 581 00:32:43,367 --> 00:32:49,639 for a good life that is not 582 00:32:49,663 --> 00:32:52,223 focus on more money, but kind 583 00:32:52,255 --> 00:32:57,127 about where it's like a full, 584 00:32:57,287 --> 00:32:58,351 Yeah, absolutely. 585 00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:01,975 So, yeah, I mean, my faith is 586 00:33:02,031 --> 00:33:05,007 that I do and everything that 587 00:33:05,047 --> 00:33:08,053 I mean, Jacob and I are the 588 00:33:08,085 --> 00:33:08,565 point. 589 00:33:08,701 --> 00:33:10,877 And, you know, that's very 590 00:33:10,917 --> 00:33:15,217 And so we're always thinking 591 00:33:15,757 --> 00:33:20,917 our love for Jesus and how we 592 00:33:21,037 --> 00:33:22,549 become clients of ours. 593 00:33:22,653 --> 00:33:29,877 And so one, you know, one idea 594 00:33:29,917 --> 00:33:34,325 him within the business and 595 00:33:34,501 --> 00:33:37,581 we are ultimately working for 596 00:33:37,709 --> 00:33:41,269 And so let's approach 597 00:33:41,413 --> 00:33:45,933 You know, let's show everyone 598 00:33:46,005 --> 00:33:48,085 because we're doing it not for them. 599 00:33:48,141 --> 00:33:50,357 We're doing it for, you know, 600 00:33:50,397 --> 00:33:54,857 And so that permeates, really, 601 00:33:55,197 --> 00:33:57,897 So faith is a big one outside 602 00:33:58,317 --> 00:34:00,007 Also, I mentioned my physical health. 603 00:34:00,117 --> 00:34:04,211 You know, I exercise 604 00:34:04,259 --> 00:34:05,687 doing all those things. 605 00:34:06,267 --> 00:34:09,211 You know, every area of my life. 606 00:34:09,259 --> 00:34:14,035 I want it to be fruitful and 607 00:34:14,091 --> 00:34:20,131 much money as possible or, you 608 00:34:20,299 --> 00:34:24,699 I think a lot of bitcoiners 609 00:34:24,803 --> 00:34:29,257 bitcoin their top priority or 610 00:34:29,337 --> 00:34:32,289 thing in their life that 611 00:34:32,433 --> 00:34:37,313 And at that point, bitcoin has 612 00:34:37,505 --> 00:34:41,713 And so, yeah, keeping, 613 00:34:41,865 --> 00:34:42,797 is important. 614 00:34:43,337 --> 00:34:46,849 And I would say, yeah, my 615 00:34:46,873 --> 00:34:51,881 are really the three things 616 00:34:51,969 --> 00:34:57,265 outside of money, to make sure 617 00:34:57,401 --> 00:34:58,489 that honors God. 618 00:34:58,593 --> 00:34:59,041 Yeah. 619 00:34:59,129 --> 00:35:03,473 And I would say, you know, 620 00:35:03,545 --> 00:35:08,997 in a way that we encourage 621 00:35:09,857 --> 00:35:14,441 Most of our clients are 622 00:35:14,489 --> 00:35:15,433 by any means. 623 00:35:15,585 --> 00:35:19,929 And so we definitely encourage 624 00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:23,013 as well, because of belief 625 00:35:23,045 --> 00:35:26,477 hearts, and God loves a 626 00:35:26,517 --> 00:35:30,965 So, um, that's one way that 627 00:35:31,021 --> 00:35:32,821 that I don't think a lot of 628 00:35:32,909 --> 00:35:33,909 I appreciate you sharing all that. 629 00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:34,205 Mitch. 630 00:35:34,261 --> 00:35:36,429 Uh, what are some final 631 00:35:36,493 --> 00:35:38,845 We've already talked about a 632 00:35:38,861 --> 00:35:41,397 you might want to share, as 633 00:35:41,437 --> 00:35:43,677 out more about you and strong wealth. 634 00:35:43,797 --> 00:35:44,733 Yeah, absolutely. 635 00:35:44,765 --> 00:35:47,781 I think the final thing I'll 636 00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:49,445 is, is not a financial plan. 637 00:35:49,501 --> 00:35:52,007 You know, I know I've said 638 00:35:52,047 --> 00:35:56,423 and, and, uh, you know, I 639 00:35:56,495 --> 00:35:57,327 on social media. 640 00:35:57,407 --> 00:36:01,023 But it's important for 641 00:36:01,095 --> 00:36:04,287 that there are a lot of other 642 00:36:04,327 --> 00:36:08,759 can be optimized that actually 643 00:36:08,823 --> 00:36:10,455 preserve, you know, secure their. 644 00:36:10,511 --> 00:36:14,067 Their bitcoin stack if that's 645 00:36:14,487 --> 00:36:18,495 translate the bitcoin wealth 646 00:36:18,631 --> 00:36:22,911 real life change for, you 647 00:36:22,959 --> 00:36:26,323 their grandparents, kids, you 648 00:36:26,435 --> 00:36:31,987 a tremendous impact because 649 00:36:32,027 --> 00:36:38,099 And so getting everything in 650 00:36:38,123 --> 00:36:39,763 something that should take 651 00:36:39,835 --> 00:36:43,715 We have the opportunity to 652 00:36:43,771 --> 00:36:46,011 greatest asset ever discovered. 653 00:36:46,059 --> 00:36:47,507 So let's take it seriously. 654 00:36:47,587 --> 00:36:51,937 Let's look at all the areas 655 00:36:52,057 --> 00:36:54,437 you know, in our, in our finances. 656 00:36:54,977 --> 00:36:57,257 So, yeah, that, that's the 657 00:36:57,337 --> 00:36:57,841 with. 658 00:36:57,969 --> 00:37:01,825 But, you know, they, if they 659 00:37:01,841 --> 00:37:05,273 can go to strongwealth.net, 660 00:37:05,345 --> 00:37:07,761 that we offer and what we do 661 00:37:07,929 --> 00:37:10,473 I'm on Twitter and I still 662 00:37:10,505 --> 00:37:13,537 I'll never stop calling it 663 00:37:13,697 --> 00:37:15,637 But I'm on Twitter and 664 00:37:17,746 --> 00:37:18,130 Great. 665 00:37:18,178 --> 00:37:19,642 Well, Mitch, thank you so much 666 00:37:19,674 --> 00:37:20,554 It's been a pleasure. 667 00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:21,290 Thanks, Josh. 668 00:37:21,338 --> 00:37:22,146 Appreciate it. 669 00:37:22,266 --> 00:37:23,226 Well, friends, it's a wrap. 670 00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:26,994 Thanks so much for listening 671 00:37:27,090 --> 00:37:27,586 show. 672 00:37:27,706 --> 00:37:29,882 If you want to reach out to 673 00:37:29,914 --> 00:37:33,970 those links down in the show 674 00:37:34,058 --> 00:37:38,402 dot, as always, keep building, 675 00:37:38,514 --> 00:37:40,634 keep living and leading. 676 00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:46,735 Well, thanks to those who have 677 00:37:46,791 --> 00:37:51,855 in the last week, including 678 00:37:51,911 --> 00:37:57,359 bowtied groundhog, Joseph the 679 00:37:57,463 --> 00:38:00,199 Black Lotus sent a note with 680 00:38:00,223 --> 00:38:04,183 with Charlie Stevens and said, 681 00:38:04,255 --> 00:38:06,631 If you would like to support 682 00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:09,567 and stream sats as you listen 683 00:38:09,607 --> 00:38:12,519 And if you include a note with 684 00:38:12,543 --> 00:38:13,447 it on the show.