1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,214 We don't know what comes out 2 00:00:04,262 --> 00:00:06,542 its main medium of exchange. 3 00:00:06,606 --> 00:00:10,550 And we don't know how our 4 00:00:10,590 --> 00:00:13,886 valuing things in sats instead 5 00:00:13,918 --> 00:00:19,998 start saving most of our 6 00:00:20,054 --> 00:00:23,886 than into a devaluing 7 00:00:23,958 --> 00:00:26,806 coming from Berlin that nobody 8 00:00:26,878 --> 00:00:30,374 So our main job here is to 9 00:00:30,422 --> 00:00:35,146 more vendors onto bitcoin, 10 00:00:35,218 --> 00:00:37,914 a higher percentage of their 11 00:00:38,042 --> 00:00:38,710 And. 12 00:00:43,730 --> 00:00:48,034 Welcome to the Business 13 00:00:48,082 --> 00:00:51,546 to helping you enrich your 14 00:00:51,578 --> 00:00:55,442 bitcoin, the hardest money on 15 00:00:55,586 --> 00:00:58,354 I'm your host, Josh 16 00:00:58,402 --> 00:01:01,962 Charlie Stevens, who lives in 17 00:01:01,986 --> 00:01:07,486 Salvador and has onboarded 18 00:01:07,598 --> 00:01:08,302 bitcoin. 19 00:01:08,406 --> 00:01:10,838 We're going to talk about that 20 00:01:10,894 --> 00:01:13,570 and we're going to get to that 21 00:01:30,913 --> 00:01:33,533 Charlie, welcome to the podcast. 22 00:01:33,833 --> 00:01:37,905 Josh, it's an absolute 23 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:39,209 talk some bitcoin. 24 00:01:39,401 --> 00:01:39,993 Absolutely. 25 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:42,201 So I like to start off every 26 00:01:42,217 --> 00:01:45,025 that help us to get to know 27 00:01:45,049 --> 00:01:46,609 us some insight for our own lives. 28 00:01:46,641 --> 00:01:47,693 So, you ready for these? 29 00:01:48,113 --> 00:01:49,013 Hit me. 30 00:01:49,553 --> 00:01:50,657 Question number one. 31 00:01:50,705 --> 00:01:54,173 Is this, when and how did you 32 00:01:55,033 --> 00:01:59,049 I learned about bitcoin after, 33 00:01:59,081 --> 00:02:00,625 a large accountancy firm. 34 00:02:00,649 --> 00:02:04,649 And I get a phone call from my 35 00:02:04,841 --> 00:02:09,401 baby, and he told me he'd made 36 00:02:09,457 --> 00:02:13,377 And I had a little look in, 37 00:02:13,545 --> 00:02:16,881 We made Instagram accounts and 38 00:02:17,057 --> 00:02:21,957 But eventually, when I started 39 00:02:22,045 --> 00:02:26,869 I realized that you needed to 40 00:02:26,901 --> 00:02:31,633 which is bitcoin, which is the 41 00:02:32,093 --> 00:02:37,373 unconfiscatable money that 42 00:02:37,453 --> 00:02:38,005 going forward. 43 00:02:38,069 --> 00:02:38,673 Right. 44 00:02:39,173 --> 00:02:42,341 So I think it's good to double 45 00:02:42,357 --> 00:02:45,565 someone's listening to this, 46 00:02:45,669 --> 00:02:47,193 some other place like that. 47 00:02:47,593 --> 00:02:50,385 They might not have caught 48 00:02:50,529 --> 00:02:53,753 differentiation between the 49 00:02:53,793 --> 00:02:54,569 bitcoin. 50 00:02:54,721 --> 00:02:56,225 Why a lot of people don't do that. 51 00:02:56,249 --> 00:02:57,481 A lot of people don't see that. 52 00:02:57,617 --> 00:02:58,729 What do you see there? 53 00:02:58,881 --> 00:03:03,649 Well, I think we have to go 54 00:03:03,721 --> 00:03:09,041 think of it as a language or 55 00:03:09,097 --> 00:03:13,377 So if you had to change the 56 00:03:13,505 --> 00:03:16,853 that the train passed in, it 57 00:03:17,713 --> 00:03:20,381 If you go to another country 58 00:03:20,397 --> 00:03:22,965 try to communicate something 59 00:03:22,989 --> 00:03:25,393 quite difficult to communicate 60 00:03:25,693 --> 00:03:29,381 Money is our way of being able 61 00:03:29,517 --> 00:03:32,813 And if you're not on the same 62 00:03:32,853 --> 00:03:35,749 rails, it's more inconvenient 63 00:03:35,861 --> 00:03:40,053 So money tends to go towards 64 00:03:40,173 --> 00:03:43,429 So we only need one type of 65 00:03:43,541 --> 00:03:46,189 And if we're all on the same 66 00:03:46,301 --> 00:03:49,797 It's like having a one metric 67 00:03:49,845 --> 00:03:50,525 the globe. 68 00:03:50,629 --> 00:03:53,253 Everything is standardized, 69 00:03:54,313 --> 00:03:58,257 The ultimate reason why 70 00:03:58,265 --> 00:04:03,893 other cryptos is because of 71 00:04:04,993 --> 00:04:09,641 Humans tend to be emotional, 72 00:04:09,657 --> 00:04:13,161 the constitution are written, 73 00:04:13,217 --> 00:04:17,833 circumstances, people want to 74 00:04:17,873 --> 00:04:20,137 more viable and everybody 75 00:04:20,265 --> 00:04:22,785 And the same thing would 76 00:04:22,809 --> 00:04:26,589 happens during COVID everyone 77 00:04:26,621 --> 00:04:31,933 had an excuse to increase the 78 00:04:31,973 --> 00:04:36,245 40% because it was an extreme circumstance. 79 00:04:36,429 --> 00:04:38,229 Bitcoin has unchangeable rules. 80 00:04:38,261 --> 00:04:41,613 So no matter what we do, 81 00:04:41,653 --> 00:04:44,333 the underlying 21 million 82 00:04:44,413 --> 00:04:46,693 That's ultimately what governs bitcoin. 83 00:04:46,733 --> 00:04:48,789 And you can't say the same for 84 00:04:48,901 --> 00:04:52,949 You cannot remake scarcity in 85 00:04:52,981 --> 00:04:54,957 That that's its ultimate key feature. 86 00:04:55,005 --> 00:04:58,141 It's the fact that it's truly 87 00:04:58,157 --> 00:05:01,565 something that's truly scarce 88 00:05:01,589 --> 00:05:03,393 in something that will last eternity. 89 00:05:04,173 --> 00:05:07,301 So you may have already 90 00:05:07,317 --> 00:05:09,837 I'm still going to pose it to 91 00:05:09,885 --> 00:05:11,301 something if you've already 92 00:05:11,397 --> 00:05:14,605 Question number two is, what's 93 00:05:14,669 --> 00:05:16,513 that you wish everyone understood? 94 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:21,669 It breaks down thousands of 95 00:05:21,701 --> 00:05:23,513 been able to break down before. 96 00:05:23,933 --> 00:05:29,117 I believe that bitcoin will 97 00:05:29,165 --> 00:05:32,805 human values that we all 98 00:05:32,869 --> 00:05:38,373 race, who we are, because it 99 00:05:38,413 --> 00:05:39,661 of how we value things. 100 00:05:39,797 --> 00:05:44,853 And human action is propelled 101 00:05:45,013 --> 00:05:49,785 So if we all have the same way 102 00:05:49,809 --> 00:05:52,817 we'll be able to empathize 103 00:05:52,865 --> 00:05:57,793 the globe, allowing us for us 104 00:05:57,833 --> 00:06:00,153 flow, and more peace across 105 00:06:00,273 --> 00:06:03,409 On top of that, allows us to 106 00:06:03,441 --> 00:06:06,353 into the future, which allows 107 00:06:06,393 --> 00:06:08,129 about ourselves, but also the collective. 108 00:06:08,241 --> 00:06:09,001 Question three. 109 00:06:09,057 --> 00:06:12,613 What's the bitcoin resource 110 00:06:13,033 --> 00:06:13,933 The Bible. 111 00:06:14,393 --> 00:06:14,777 No. 112 00:06:14,825 --> 00:06:15,905 Yeah, I do. 113 00:06:15,929 --> 00:06:16,569 I do. 114 00:06:16,721 --> 00:06:21,643 I think learning the 115 00:06:21,683 --> 00:06:23,747 to see why bitcoin is so important. 116 00:06:23,835 --> 00:06:31,363 Because if you do revise all 117 00:06:31,483 --> 00:06:35,339 into you by your parents, then 118 00:06:35,371 --> 00:06:39,739 start understanding its 119 00:06:39,771 --> 00:06:45,131 you and you'll have a ton more 120 00:06:45,227 --> 00:06:47,571 And then we have question 121 00:06:47,587 --> 00:06:48,635 bit away from bitcoin. 122 00:06:48,739 --> 00:06:52,835 Beyond bitcoin, what is a 123 00:06:52,859 --> 00:06:54,979 helpful to you or your work recently? 124 00:06:55,171 --> 00:06:56,627 Sparrow is brilliant. 125 00:06:56,795 --> 00:07:03,243 Yeah, I think in terms of 126 00:07:03,283 --> 00:07:04,059 here in Berlin. 127 00:07:04,171 --> 00:07:06,763 I'm living in a circular economy. 128 00:07:06,843 --> 00:07:08,811 There's well over 130 vendors 129 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:13,263 There's a lot of bitcoin 130 00:07:13,763 --> 00:07:15,219 and people saving in it. 131 00:07:15,251 --> 00:07:19,367 So we use blink as our main 132 00:07:19,535 --> 00:07:22,483 So if you want to pay for any 133 00:07:23,783 --> 00:07:28,815 Our medium or intermediary 134 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,511 because you can send lightning 135 00:07:31,647 --> 00:07:34,015 But then you also get twelve 136 00:07:34,039 --> 00:07:37,671 And it's liquid if people 137 00:07:37,687 --> 00:07:41,359 side chain where you have to 138 00:07:41,391 --> 00:07:45,439 out liquid bitcoin, but it's 139 00:07:45,511 --> 00:07:49,027 across the globe, so it's a 140 00:07:49,095 --> 00:07:53,283 custodians like Blink, and 141 00:07:53,363 --> 00:07:56,339 maybe a couple of k, then you 142 00:07:56,411 --> 00:08:00,379 or you can move it into your 143 00:08:00,491 --> 00:08:03,475 Sparrow is beautiful because 144 00:08:03,499 --> 00:08:08,379 utxos, you're able to create 145 00:08:08,411 --> 00:08:14,427 to have a really clear view as 146 00:08:14,475 --> 00:08:16,475 and it allows you to 147 00:08:16,499 --> 00:08:16,947 more. 148 00:08:17,075 --> 00:08:21,075 Now we have our final, what we 149 00:08:21,139 --> 00:08:22,443 question, and it's this. 150 00:08:22,563 --> 00:08:26,891 As a general life principle, 151 00:08:27,027 --> 00:08:29,363 I mean, I'm a big fan of 152 00:08:29,443 --> 00:08:32,051 I am a big, big, big fan of 153 00:08:32,187 --> 00:08:36,451 But from, from, from life 154 00:08:36,507 --> 00:08:41,619 to think through things is via 155 00:08:41,651 --> 00:08:42,987 what you do not want. 156 00:08:43,155 --> 00:08:45,635 By knowing what you do not 157 00:08:45,659 --> 00:08:45,819 want. 158 00:08:45,851 --> 00:08:48,695 You really never know exactly 159 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:49,775 figure out what we don't want. 160 00:08:49,799 --> 00:08:51,603 So I'll go with why not? 161 00:08:52,223 --> 00:08:57,843 And kind of take out the 162 00:08:58,263 --> 00:09:00,283 gold in the midst of it. 163 00:11:07,317 --> 00:11:09,717 Well, Charlie, we're here 164 00:11:09,757 --> 00:11:11,029 that you're involved with. 165 00:11:11,133 --> 00:11:14,861 First of all, I want to talk 166 00:11:14,909 --> 00:11:15,245 Berlin. 167 00:11:15,301 --> 00:11:16,629 You mentioned Berlin earlier. 168 00:11:16,773 --> 00:11:19,699 If people aren't familiar, 169 00:11:19,813 --> 00:11:22,135 but we're talking about El 170 00:11:22,191 --> 00:11:25,223 So if you would share with us 171 00:11:25,255 --> 00:11:28,327 even some of the background of 172 00:11:28,407 --> 00:11:32,255 your work there onboarding 173 00:11:32,311 --> 00:11:33,615 the last year or so. 174 00:11:33,791 --> 00:11:34,863 That's a great question. 175 00:11:34,975 --> 00:11:36,167 So just a bit of context. 176 00:11:36,207 --> 00:11:39,667 El Salvador, it's bitcoin 177 00:11:40,767 --> 00:11:44,551 Bitcoin is something that 178 00:11:44,639 --> 00:11:47,439 and for people to want to use, 179 00:11:47,503 --> 00:11:48,867 in day to day services. 180 00:11:49,267 --> 00:11:52,411 After three years, theres a 181 00:11:52,459 --> 00:11:53,683 still dont accept bitcoin. 182 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:55,083 Most places, actually. 183 00:11:55,275 --> 00:11:59,355 And there was a couple, 184 00:11:59,371 --> 00:12:02,891 me premier bitcoin, which is 185 00:12:03,019 --> 00:12:03,915 in the world. 186 00:12:04,051 --> 00:12:05,979 And theyre based out of El Salvador. 187 00:12:06,123 --> 00:12:09,651 Theyve taught tens of 188 00:12:09,739 --> 00:12:12,051 but they were teaching through 189 00:12:12,099 --> 00:12:16,763 But they decided to start a 190 00:12:16,795 --> 00:12:17,723 strived off. 191 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:23,501 And I heard about this when I 192 00:12:23,589 --> 00:12:27,717 everything I had and moved to 193 00:12:27,757 --> 00:12:30,137 and to be able to learn more 194 00:12:30,637 --> 00:12:34,621 I arrived in and I went 195 00:12:34,709 --> 00:12:38,437 spent ten days down by the 196 00:12:38,557 --> 00:12:42,549 and arrived and there was 20 197 00:12:42,573 --> 00:12:46,081 and then one other American 198 00:12:46,209 --> 00:12:50,089 And we started working and we 199 00:12:50,113 --> 00:12:51,401 started developing systems. 200 00:12:51,449 --> 00:12:53,345 We met up on a regular basis. 201 00:12:53,401 --> 00:12:55,917 We started teaching bitcoin classes. 202 00:12:57,297 --> 00:13:02,313 My job essentially was to try 203 00:13:02,345 --> 00:13:06,877 economy works through the 204 00:13:08,857 --> 00:13:16,053 That was extremely a building 205 00:13:16,085 --> 00:13:19,813 see the gaps in both other 206 00:13:19,845 --> 00:13:23,669 and why those gaps were there 207 00:13:23,693 --> 00:13:27,337 people to be able to make more 208 00:13:27,637 --> 00:13:33,277 So since arriving in here in 209 00:13:33,317 --> 00:13:36,493 There's 150 megawatt 210 00:13:36,525 --> 00:13:36,717 road. 211 00:13:36,757 --> 00:13:42,377 It's mining four containers 212 00:13:42,557 --> 00:13:44,305 and then 130 merchants. 213 00:13:44,401 --> 00:13:46,881 They're all really open minded 214 00:13:47,009 --> 00:13:50,673 Back before the eighties, it 215 00:13:50,705 --> 00:13:53,841 town, but it was massive in 216 00:13:53,929 --> 00:13:57,233 You had multiple millionaires 217 00:13:57,345 --> 00:14:00,825 And then the civil war came 218 00:14:00,841 --> 00:14:04,505 and large percentage of the 219 00:14:04,521 --> 00:14:05,505 of on its build up. 220 00:14:05,561 --> 00:14:09,439 The tourism here wasn't really 221 00:14:09,503 --> 00:14:11,599 town Alegria was massive for tourism. 222 00:14:11,703 --> 00:14:15,607 So Berlin really wanted to 223 00:14:15,767 --> 00:14:18,391 wanted to beautify itself and 224 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:23,303 So bitcoin allowed for that 225 00:14:23,335 --> 00:14:24,439 new type of tourist. 226 00:14:24,543 --> 00:14:28,983 So since a year ago now, we've 227 00:14:29,015 --> 00:14:31,303 here full time just because of bitcoin. 228 00:14:31,415 --> 00:14:33,631 And then we've got a lot of 229 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,743 the project who want to learn 230 00:14:35,895 --> 00:14:41,439 And a huge amount of the 231 00:14:41,463 --> 00:14:45,599 basics of bitcoin and how to 232 00:14:45,663 --> 00:14:46,151 bitcoin. 233 00:14:46,199 --> 00:14:51,751 The effects of inflation, how 234 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:56,467 of understanding the 235 00:14:56,807 --> 00:15:00,559 And it's a very enriching 236 00:15:00,663 --> 00:15:07,079 you feel like you're truly 237 00:15:07,183 --> 00:15:11,667 that we require from a dollar 238 00:15:11,787 --> 00:15:15,107 And if everyone's aware, it 239 00:15:15,147 --> 00:15:18,207 value to medium of exchange to 240 00:15:18,507 --> 00:15:21,787 And a lot of people are 241 00:15:21,827 --> 00:15:22,507 and whatnot. 242 00:15:22,547 --> 00:15:26,083 But when you come here, you 243 00:15:26,115 --> 00:15:29,299 together, if you really work 244 00:15:29,323 --> 00:15:35,147 a clear vision, are energetic 245 00:15:35,267 --> 00:15:38,597 that a lot of stuff can get 246 00:15:38,637 --> 00:15:44,397 to bitcoin, and that's what 247 00:15:44,437 --> 00:15:46,269 bitcoiner from Washington, DC. 248 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:50,189 We started a conference back 249 00:15:50,213 --> 00:15:52,517 We had over 215 people arrive. 250 00:15:52,557 --> 00:15:54,349 It was a major success. 251 00:15:54,453 --> 00:16:01,309 One full day full of high 252 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:03,149 is possible with circular economies. 253 00:16:03,293 --> 00:16:08,029 And the nature of this, Josh, 254 00:16:08,093 --> 00:16:13,393 out of a, an economy that uses 255 00:16:13,465 --> 00:16:15,561 main medium of exchange. 256 00:16:15,689 --> 00:16:19,713 And we dont know how our 257 00:16:19,745 --> 00:16:23,985 valuing things in sats instead 258 00:16:24,161 --> 00:16:32,877 most of our liquid capital 259 00:16:33,297 --> 00:16:34,117 currency. 260 00:16:35,247 --> 00:16:39,511 One thing is just yourself in 261 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:40,223 dollars. 262 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:46,471 Another thing is a large 263 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:49,079 in bitcoin, starting to value 264 00:16:49,223 --> 00:16:51,775 And how do the interactions 265 00:16:51,831 --> 00:16:55,455 And how does the interactions 266 00:16:55,631 --> 00:16:59,559 So there's emerging qualities 267 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:00,343 really seen before. 268 00:17:00,415 --> 00:17:03,911 So our main job here is to 269 00:17:03,959 --> 00:17:07,635 more vendors onto bitcoin, 270 00:17:07,651 --> 00:17:13,843 to save a higher percentage of 271 00:17:13,875 --> 00:17:14,163 it. 272 00:17:14,235 --> 00:17:16,299 Document to see what comes 273 00:17:16,323 --> 00:17:19,211 What are the emerging 274 00:17:19,379 --> 00:17:21,195 It's hugely inspiring, Preston. 275 00:17:21,211 --> 00:17:24,047 And what are some of those 276 00:17:25,027 --> 00:17:28,523 Or if it's too early to tell, 277 00:17:28,555 --> 00:17:31,851 have about the qualities that 278 00:17:31,899 --> 00:17:32,425 economy? 279 00:17:32,571 --> 00:17:35,017 Well, as you know, bitcoin 280 00:17:35,877 --> 00:17:37,917 Bitcoin gives us time to think. 281 00:17:38,077 --> 00:17:40,837 A lot of people who are into 282 00:17:40,877 --> 00:17:42,021 thinking themselves. 283 00:17:42,189 --> 00:17:46,973 So this critical thinking also 284 00:17:47,005 --> 00:17:47,413 life. 285 00:17:47,525 --> 00:17:53,581 So whether that's health, 286 00:17:53,629 --> 00:17:59,709 it's being sovereign as an 287 00:17:59,733 --> 00:18:02,837 you treat other individuals, 288 00:18:02,877 --> 00:18:04,753 you realize that the people 289 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:08,913 you'll probably still have a 290 00:18:08,985 --> 00:18:09,657 years time. 291 00:18:09,777 --> 00:18:14,873 So you've got a, you've got a 292 00:18:14,905 --> 00:18:15,917 is developing. 293 00:18:16,297 --> 00:18:22,289 You have people who aren't 294 00:18:22,393 --> 00:18:23,433 today and tomorrow. 295 00:18:23,505 --> 00:18:27,201 But everyone is kind of 296 00:18:27,249 --> 00:18:30,785 that's going to come in 10, 297 00:18:30,961 --> 00:18:33,575 And you've got a lot of imagination. 298 00:18:33,761 --> 00:18:39,247 You've got time to be able to 299 00:18:40,107 --> 00:18:43,731 You've got more savings to be 300 00:18:43,779 --> 00:18:46,843 So we've got a bitcoin center 301 00:18:46,875 --> 00:18:48,867 I'm sitting in the podcast 302 00:18:48,987 --> 00:18:52,387 We've got three cameras, we've 303 00:18:52,427 --> 00:18:53,147 studio. 304 00:18:53,307 --> 00:18:59,067 And this has been possible 305 00:18:59,107 --> 00:19:01,315 in bitcoin, because of 306 00:19:01,371 --> 00:19:03,859 the globe to this place 307 00:19:03,883 --> 00:19:04,639 was happening. 308 00:19:04,803 --> 00:19:09,743 So you've got, you know, if 309 00:19:09,855 --> 00:19:12,879 capital controls, and anything 310 00:19:12,903 --> 00:19:17,827 be, I suppose, asked for 311 00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:20,959 Here in El Salvador, it's a 312 00:19:21,063 --> 00:19:25,351 You've got, you've got a huge 313 00:19:25,399 --> 00:19:26,167 back in. 314 00:19:26,287 --> 00:19:30,295 You've got a business closed 315 00:19:30,311 --> 00:19:31,353 in the next day. 316 00:19:31,495 --> 00:19:33,725 Regulations are second to 317 00:19:33,781 --> 00:19:41,621 You have just, it's just 318 00:19:41,709 --> 00:19:42,653 of doing business. 319 00:19:42,725 --> 00:19:44,029 You've got a lot of entrepreneurs. 320 00:19:44,093 --> 00:19:47,805 You know, half the whole town 321 00:19:47,821 --> 00:19:50,653 an employee, your average 322 00:19:50,685 --> 00:19:52,737 So you're incentivized to 323 00:19:53,037 --> 00:19:56,493 You've got people who are 324 00:19:56,645 --> 00:19:57,629 They are. 325 00:19:57,773 --> 00:20:01,053 Well, the locals are starting 326 00:20:01,085 --> 00:20:03,313 of the expats that come in. 327 00:20:03,485 --> 00:20:06,977 You get to see an emerge of 328 00:20:07,097 --> 00:20:13,317 And in a way that's not like, 329 00:20:14,617 --> 00:20:20,153 different countries over time, 330 00:20:20,305 --> 00:20:23,689 They've probably hired the 331 00:20:23,713 --> 00:20:28,633 it's probably been like 332 00:20:28,665 --> 00:20:32,063 bitcoin, when you're 333 00:20:32,095 --> 00:20:36,703 saving bitcoin, you're opening 334 00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:39,567 to be able to live an 335 00:20:39,607 --> 00:20:39,903 life. 336 00:20:39,975 --> 00:20:42,599 And for you to work together, 337 00:20:42,623 --> 00:20:48,027 own little niche, on how they 338 00:20:48,487 --> 00:20:52,103 the local town, for them to be 339 00:20:52,135 --> 00:20:55,267 to build up their savings and 340 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:56,867 So we have this. 341 00:20:57,907 --> 00:21:00,187 We have this across the town, 342 00:21:00,227 --> 00:21:04,771 like, paint up their houses, 343 00:21:04,819 --> 00:21:09,411 better quality products, nicer 344 00:21:09,539 --> 00:21:15,491 We have different types of art 345 00:21:15,659 --> 00:21:20,571 We've got people coming from 346 00:21:20,619 --> 00:21:25,037 ideas of how to, you know, how 347 00:21:25,077 --> 00:21:28,069 farm, someone setting up a 348 00:21:28,093 --> 00:21:28,325 town. 349 00:21:28,381 --> 00:21:33,533 I mean, it's countless, and 350 00:21:33,565 --> 00:21:34,301 all of these ideas. 351 00:21:34,349 --> 00:21:36,757 So we're starting to see that now. 352 00:21:36,877 --> 00:21:38,017 This is a long. 353 00:21:38,917 --> 00:21:40,589 This is a long game, you know. 354 00:21:40,693 --> 00:21:42,429 I guess one of the things 355 00:21:42,453 --> 00:21:48,471 you about is how you have had 356 00:21:48,669 --> 00:21:52,235 And I think in particular, it 357 00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:57,927 how you begin to talk with 358 00:21:58,427 --> 00:22:03,083 as bitcoiners, maybe were 359 00:22:03,115 --> 00:22:05,331 know about bitcoin at first. 360 00:22:05,459 --> 00:22:10,179 How have you onboarded them 361 00:22:10,323 --> 00:22:13,867 And also, I guess, like, how 362 00:22:13,987 --> 00:22:17,027 Have they gone from being 363 00:22:17,067 --> 00:22:17,435 it? 364 00:22:17,531 --> 00:22:21,279 Or is it still very early days 365 00:22:21,343 --> 00:22:23,095 tend to get dollars instead? 366 00:22:23,231 --> 00:22:25,067 It's a case by case basis. 367 00:22:27,287 --> 00:22:30,467 If you're talking about locals 368 00:22:31,567 --> 00:22:34,567 it's much easier when we think 369 00:22:34,727 --> 00:22:37,615 You only accept money because 370 00:22:37,631 --> 00:22:39,999 able to purchase something in 371 00:22:40,183 --> 00:22:44,255 So if an individual knows that 372 00:22:44,271 --> 00:22:48,333 of the major services that 373 00:22:48,405 --> 00:22:53,717 water, they cut their hair, 374 00:22:53,757 --> 00:22:57,237 different services, if they 375 00:22:57,317 --> 00:23:00,173 will also be able to be used 376 00:23:00,205 --> 00:23:00,857 willing. 377 00:23:01,197 --> 00:23:04,269 The concept of it being money 378 00:23:04,413 --> 00:23:09,309 So there is a point by which 379 00:23:09,333 --> 00:23:12,629 enough vendors that people 380 00:23:12,653 --> 00:23:13,857 say, I want to accept. 381 00:23:15,097 --> 00:23:18,817 And it's been a huge influx in 382 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:22,681 You have events and you have 383 00:23:22,689 --> 00:23:24,081 the course of two, three days. 384 00:23:24,129 --> 00:23:28,129 That's a large influx of money 385 00:23:28,153 --> 00:23:29,705 vendors to make some nice profits. 386 00:23:29,841 --> 00:23:34,985 So we found that people are 387 00:23:35,161 --> 00:23:40,975 The reasons behind it mainly, 388 00:23:41,071 --> 00:23:43,423 it's, you know, they can 389 00:23:43,615 --> 00:23:49,535 But there are several people 390 00:23:49,671 --> 00:23:55,967 and when onboarding people, 391 00:23:56,007 --> 00:23:57,663 are you accepting bitcoin yet? 392 00:23:57,815 --> 00:24:00,639 You know, as in, like, you 393 00:24:00,703 --> 00:24:01,887 To what's happening? 394 00:24:02,047 --> 00:24:02,439 Right? 395 00:24:02,503 --> 00:24:06,247 So it's like they've, you 396 00:24:06,287 --> 00:24:08,955 No, I haven't no, we don't 397 00:24:09,131 --> 00:24:13,091 And then immediately you offer 398 00:24:13,219 --> 00:24:16,763 to be able to receive, and I 399 00:24:16,795 --> 00:24:18,547 scrolling through TikTok, right? 400 00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:19,355 It's easier. 401 00:24:19,491 --> 00:24:24,979 So the barrier for them to 402 00:24:25,083 --> 00:24:27,447 Like minimum time, minimum effort. 403 00:24:28,387 --> 00:24:31,835 You need to be able to get 404 00:24:31,891 --> 00:24:32,531 just close. 405 00:24:32,619 --> 00:24:35,273 Essentially, if they're a bit 406 00:24:35,305 --> 00:24:36,113 want to give you a tip. 407 00:24:36,145 --> 00:24:38,745 I just want to show you how it 408 00:24:38,881 --> 00:24:42,673 And when you offer someone a 409 00:24:42,705 --> 00:24:44,969 it's like, what are the 410 00:24:45,153 --> 00:24:47,841 The bit of time that it takes 411 00:24:48,009 --> 00:24:52,745 So I found it's been really 412 00:24:52,761 --> 00:24:54,705 get trained yourself to do it. 413 00:24:54,721 --> 00:25:01,317 I've gotten over 142 people 414 00:25:01,437 --> 00:25:04,749 and tons of people here have 415 00:25:04,773 --> 00:25:05,501 as well. 416 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:06,549 It still takes time. 417 00:25:06,573 --> 00:25:08,245 The volatility hurts, right? 418 00:25:08,381 --> 00:25:10,525 You have expenses denominated 419 00:25:10,621 --> 00:25:15,741 So if you're a business and 420 00:25:15,829 --> 00:25:19,549 you might need a percentage of 421 00:25:19,733 --> 00:25:24,077 So you need to have available 422 00:25:24,197 --> 00:25:26,989 They need to be able to know 423 00:25:27,013 --> 00:25:29,817 call someone, I'm going to be 424 00:25:30,437 --> 00:25:32,177 You know that they're not trapped. 425 00:25:32,837 --> 00:25:37,269 Also, Blink offers this 426 00:25:37,293 --> 00:25:39,061 percentage of your bitcoin 427 00:25:39,149 --> 00:25:40,933 So it allows people to hedge. 428 00:25:41,085 --> 00:25:44,109 So a lot of them accept 429 00:25:44,133 --> 00:25:44,901 into dollars. 430 00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:48,397 But when it's already there, 431 00:25:48,437 --> 00:25:52,261 bitcoin than if you have to go 432 00:25:52,349 --> 00:25:57,673 But once people have these, 433 00:25:57,705 --> 00:26:02,977 on them or have the option to 434 00:26:03,017 --> 00:26:06,041 bitcoin, if their interest is 435 00:26:06,089 --> 00:26:08,929 that really appeals to them, 436 00:26:08,993 --> 00:26:13,729 on it, then they can move it 437 00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:19,697 So getting a large cohort of 438 00:26:19,737 --> 00:26:24,127 entrepreneurs, and then also 439 00:26:24,167 --> 00:26:30,855 they're quite savvy in terms 440 00:26:30,871 --> 00:26:31,455 a good network. 441 00:26:31,511 --> 00:26:34,319 You've got a good network of 442 00:26:34,503 --> 00:26:37,279 So the start is always the toughest. 443 00:26:37,423 --> 00:26:41,823 To summarize, one of the other 444 00:26:41,855 --> 00:26:44,799 adopting bitcoin conference in 445 00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:47,247 I think you said this is the 446 00:26:47,327 --> 00:26:49,919 Would you mind sharing about 447 00:26:49,943 --> 00:26:51,257 people who are listening right now? 448 00:26:51,287 --> 00:26:51,717 Now. 449 00:26:51,837 --> 00:26:55,325 Okay, so if you're a 450 00:26:55,341 --> 00:26:55,813 Salvador. 451 00:26:55,845 --> 00:26:56,437 That's. 452 00:26:56,597 --> 00:26:57,497 It's just. 453 00:26:58,477 --> 00:27:00,053 It's the mecca, pretty much. 454 00:27:00,085 --> 00:27:00,461 It is. 455 00:27:00,509 --> 00:27:03,365 And I've been here for over a 456 00:27:03,541 --> 00:27:04,949 it truly is. 457 00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:07,725 So first of all, you have to 458 00:27:07,781 --> 00:27:11,845 Second of all, if you're going 459 00:27:11,901 --> 00:27:12,397 That's. 460 00:27:12,517 --> 00:27:14,109 That's the best time for you 461 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:17,525 There's no point coming over 462 00:27:17,661 --> 00:27:22,319 On the 15th and 16 November, 463 00:27:22,343 --> 00:27:23,759 It's the fourth year running. 464 00:27:23,863 --> 00:27:28,143 We're expecting over 1100 465 00:27:28,175 --> 00:27:29,839 world and locals. 466 00:27:30,023 --> 00:27:37,719 We have an extremely robust 467 00:27:37,783 --> 00:27:39,871 work on building on top of bitcoin. 468 00:27:39,999 --> 00:27:46,207 Whether that's on the payment 469 00:27:46,287 --> 00:27:51,215 more on the back end in terms 470 00:27:51,271 --> 00:27:53,887 bitcoin core, whether it's on 471 00:27:53,927 --> 00:27:57,639 protocols like liquid or ark 472 00:27:57,663 --> 00:27:58,439 be using. 473 00:27:58,623 --> 00:28:02,767 You've got people who are on 474 00:28:02,807 --> 00:28:05,527 you've got educational side of things. 475 00:28:05,647 --> 00:28:08,231 Then you've got different 476 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:09,647 You have a bitcoin paranino. 477 00:28:09,687 --> 00:28:11,055 So bitcoin for kids area. 478 00:28:11,151 --> 00:28:13,319 So if you're a parent and 479 00:28:13,343 --> 00:28:15,351 having to take care of your 480 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,505 be able to come, you're going 481 00:28:18,641 --> 00:28:21,529 decent area where they can be 482 00:28:21,553 --> 00:28:25,329 So you can go and listen to 483 00:28:25,353 --> 00:28:30,417 go into the expo hall where 484 00:28:30,457 --> 00:28:33,393 quality bitcoin businesses 485 00:28:33,465 --> 00:28:36,957 there, both local Salvadores, 486 00:28:38,177 --> 00:28:40,497 You're going to have loads of 487 00:28:40,537 --> 00:28:43,177 We're going to have poker 488 00:28:43,337 --> 00:28:46,265 You're going to hopefully have 489 00:28:46,441 --> 00:28:49,549 You're going to have two main halls. 490 00:28:49,573 --> 00:28:52,757 So you've got this main stage 491 00:28:52,797 --> 00:28:58,957 main stage, you're greeted 492 00:28:58,997 --> 00:28:59,757 bitcoin art. 493 00:28:59,837 --> 00:29:04,829 So we've got over 50 really 494 00:29:04,893 --> 00:29:07,997 different artists all across 495 00:29:08,037 --> 00:29:11,817 El Salvador and displaying it 496 00:29:12,157 --> 00:29:12,493 there. 497 00:29:12,525 --> 00:29:15,245 At the main stage, you've got 498 00:29:15,341 --> 00:29:18,309 So if you want to get hands on 499 00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:21,753 wallethood, different cold 500 00:29:21,785 --> 00:29:23,217 How do you work all of them? 501 00:29:23,377 --> 00:29:24,597 Multi signature. 502 00:29:25,137 --> 00:29:29,113 How does Mipmere bitcoin, 503 00:29:29,145 --> 00:29:31,897 which I talked about, how do 504 00:29:31,937 --> 00:29:33,921 How have they been seriously successful? 505 00:29:34,049 --> 00:29:36,241 You're going to have panels on 506 00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:39,857 You're going to have people 507 00:29:39,897 --> 00:29:42,717 experience on how to bolster 508 00:29:43,617 --> 00:29:44,957 You're going to have. 509 00:29:46,177 --> 00:29:49,241 You're going to have the top 510 00:29:49,289 --> 00:29:52,009 Stacey Herbert, you've got 511 00:29:52,073 --> 00:29:56,089 who have been protagonists in 512 00:29:56,233 --> 00:29:59,081 You've got the heads of 513 00:29:59,209 --> 00:30:03,089 You've got people like Athena 514 00:30:03,193 --> 00:30:06,897 across the globe for vouchers, 515 00:30:06,937 --> 00:30:07,717 like that. 516 00:30:08,177 --> 00:30:11,377 We have this option called the 517 00:30:11,417 --> 00:30:12,077 for people. 518 00:30:12,217 --> 00:30:16,085 So if you want to rub 519 00:30:16,101 --> 00:30:20,341 want to have an opportunity to 520 00:30:20,469 --> 00:30:22,861 have the opportunity to talk 521 00:30:22,909 --> 00:30:26,349 in bitcoin businesses 522 00:30:26,373 --> 00:30:29,925 privilege access ticket, which 523 00:30:29,981 --> 00:30:33,781 festival, which is the day 524 00:30:33,829 --> 00:30:37,909 of the movie called Dirty 525 00:30:37,933 --> 00:30:39,697 bitcoin mining and the. 526 00:30:41,147 --> 00:30:45,555 The fallacies about it and the 527 00:30:45,571 --> 00:30:47,723 it actually bolsters energy grids. 528 00:30:47,915 --> 00:30:49,627 That's the 14 November. 529 00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:52,099 You've got a ton of side 530 00:30:52,123 --> 00:30:56,447 So I'm just talking about the 531 00:30:56,827 --> 00:30:58,843 I'm just going to finish the 532 00:30:58,875 --> 00:31:01,035 You have access to the 533 00:31:01,051 --> 00:31:02,243 in the main stage. 534 00:31:02,435 --> 00:31:06,075 You have free drink for the 535 00:31:06,131 --> 00:31:07,247 buffet as well. 536 00:31:07,387 --> 00:31:11,047 You've got a lounge area, 537 00:31:11,127 --> 00:31:14,879 where you can do your 538 00:31:14,903 --> 00:31:15,503 of the two days. 539 00:31:15,535 --> 00:31:17,667 So that's a really good opportunity. 540 00:31:18,127 --> 00:31:20,839 You can also get the general 541 00:31:20,863 --> 00:31:24,279 amazing opportunity to see all 542 00:31:24,303 --> 00:31:28,231 exhibition area in this 543 00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:32,623 And it's just rolling hills, a 544 00:31:32,655 --> 00:31:33,151 on the beach. 545 00:31:33,199 --> 00:31:35,895 So you can even wear a shirt 546 00:31:36,071 --> 00:31:39,107 And it's about 25 minutes from 547 00:31:39,287 --> 00:31:42,403 All the major hotels, you just 548 00:31:42,515 --> 00:31:45,187 We've got buses that are 549 00:31:45,227 --> 00:31:48,363 locations, all catered for 550 00:31:48,515 --> 00:31:51,035 So it should be as smooth as 551 00:31:51,091 --> 00:31:53,723 If you have any like, 552 00:31:53,755 --> 00:31:55,167 website and everything is there. 553 00:31:55,467 --> 00:31:57,323 But you've also got side 554 00:31:57,355 --> 00:32:01,091 You've got beforehand, you've 555 00:32:01,259 --> 00:32:02,603 They do these graduations. 556 00:32:02,635 --> 00:32:06,253 I went one last year and it 557 00:32:06,285 --> 00:32:08,797 I genuinely, I couldn't 558 00:32:08,957 --> 00:32:14,469 The level of organization you 559 00:32:14,493 --> 00:32:21,989 down like a ridiculous amount 560 00:32:22,013 --> 00:32:26,501 of professionalism that 561 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:28,973 and how proud they were and 562 00:32:29,005 --> 00:32:33,013 Like you go to these places 563 00:32:33,045 --> 00:32:34,377 bitcoin, all these kids. 564 00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:40,335 The day after this graduation, 565 00:32:40,351 --> 00:32:42,007 will be on the 13th, on the 14th. 566 00:32:42,047 --> 00:32:45,067 During the day you've got the 567 00:32:45,367 --> 00:32:49,687 which is, it's a bit of more 568 00:32:49,767 --> 00:32:50,831 but really high signal. 569 00:32:50,879 --> 00:32:53,295 You get to meet some really 570 00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:54,911 The bitcoin on conference. 571 00:32:54,959 --> 00:32:55,623 That's great. 572 00:32:55,735 --> 00:32:58,583 And then you've got the film 573 00:32:58,775 --> 00:33:01,239 You've got the conference from 574 00:33:01,263 --> 00:33:03,461 You've got plenty of parties 575 00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:04,357 On the 15th. 576 00:33:04,437 --> 00:33:07,429 You've got the official 577 00:33:07,453 --> 00:33:12,469 going to be held in the city 578 00:33:12,653 --> 00:33:15,413 one of the tallest buildings 579 00:33:15,525 --> 00:33:19,453 So it's going to be turned 580 00:33:19,525 --> 00:33:23,733 types of music across, across 581 00:33:23,765 --> 00:33:25,413 So that'll be a great opportunity. 582 00:33:25,605 --> 00:33:29,501 And then afterwards, day 583 00:33:29,549 --> 00:33:30,293 for day three. 584 00:33:30,365 --> 00:33:33,141 Al Zontay is just stunning 585 00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:37,077 You can use bitcoin everywhere 586 00:33:37,117 --> 00:33:40,013 activities that youll love and 587 00:33:40,045 --> 00:33:43,949 of these other bitcoiners that 588 00:33:44,093 --> 00:33:46,165 Really, really good networking opportunity. 589 00:33:46,301 --> 00:33:49,237 The best thing I couldve done 590 00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,861 go to a first conference in 591 00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:56,013 It opened so many doors for 592 00:33:56,045 --> 00:33:59,685 kind of made bitcoin a 593 00:33:59,781 --> 00:34:02,045 So I highly recommend anybody 594 00:34:02,061 --> 00:34:02,629 Just do it. 595 00:34:02,653 --> 00:34:04,797 Just book your flight, get the 596 00:34:04,837 --> 00:34:05,417 Right. 597 00:34:05,797 --> 00:34:10,717 And then after bitcoin beach, 598 00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,657 have the opportunity to go to roatan. 599 00:34:12,997 --> 00:34:16,261 They can do a retreat over in 600 00:34:16,309 --> 00:34:16,565 over. 601 00:34:16,621 --> 00:34:19,453 And there's this all inclusive 602 00:34:19,565 --> 00:34:23,277 the beautiful bitcoin center, 603 00:34:23,317 --> 00:34:26,057 where they have bitcoin as its 604 00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:29,529 It's a private city, so I 605 00:34:29,553 --> 00:34:30,113 that out. 606 00:34:30,225 --> 00:34:33,513 And then obviously, people can 607 00:34:33,545 --> 00:34:37,897 about, and see what it's like 608 00:34:37,937 --> 00:34:39,185 economy take place. 609 00:34:39,361 --> 00:34:39,697 Right. 610 00:34:39,737 --> 00:34:41,289 It's been over a year. 611 00:34:41,393 --> 00:34:43,597 The growth has been phenomenal. 612 00:34:44,457 --> 00:34:48,025 There's a strong and dedicated 613 00:34:48,121 --> 00:34:50,161 So do come check Berlin out. 614 00:34:50,329 --> 00:34:51,481 That's my wrap up. 615 00:34:51,609 --> 00:34:51,953 Clay. 616 00:34:51,985 --> 00:34:54,921 It sounds like there's more 617 00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:56,113 multiple weeks. 618 00:34:56,265 --> 00:34:56,865 Yeah. 619 00:34:57,001 --> 00:34:58,347 Recommend two weeks. 620 00:34:58,537 --> 00:34:59,743 Yeah, for sure. 621 00:34:59,775 --> 00:35:01,519 It makes sense if you're 622 00:35:01,543 --> 00:35:03,735 a little bit more time in El Salvador. 623 00:35:03,791 --> 00:35:07,103 Also, I will say from personal 624 00:35:07,135 --> 00:35:11,703 but the keys between Roatan 625 00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:14,967 cocinos, the most beautiful 626 00:35:15,007 --> 00:35:17,863 I spent probably four or five 627 00:35:17,935 --> 00:35:19,815 and it's absolutely stunning. 628 00:35:19,871 --> 00:35:21,319 Roatan's great as well. 629 00:35:21,503 --> 00:35:25,175 Final question, and not final 630 00:35:25,231 --> 00:35:27,367 your brand, the natural investor. 631 00:35:27,487 --> 00:35:31,117 Could you talk with us a 632 00:35:31,157 --> 00:35:34,805 looking to do as you develop 633 00:35:34,901 --> 00:35:36,301 full flown brand. 634 00:35:36,429 --> 00:35:37,149 Yeah, for sure. 635 00:35:37,213 --> 00:35:40,189 So the natural investor was 636 00:35:40,293 --> 00:35:46,245 and I did about three, four 637 00:35:46,421 --> 00:35:50,941 intense meditation, pretty 638 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:54,737 and a lot of introspection 639 00:35:55,037 --> 00:35:56,497 what's your course in life. 640 00:35:56,917 --> 00:36:01,877 And from my studies in finance 641 00:36:01,917 --> 00:36:08,525 about bitcoin and I suppose 642 00:36:08,581 --> 00:36:15,797 the eyes of Buddhism, but also 643 00:36:15,837 --> 00:36:20,197 money permeates through 644 00:36:20,237 --> 00:36:27,301 It's a very central theme in 645 00:36:27,389 --> 00:36:30,297 across cultures, across the past. 646 00:36:30,837 --> 00:36:34,925 And money has been conflated 647 00:36:35,021 --> 00:36:38,245 And I mean, the love for money 648 00:36:38,421 --> 00:36:41,589 So, you know, this has been 649 00:36:41,613 --> 00:36:42,389 top of my mind. 650 00:36:42,453 --> 00:36:45,469 And for me to pursue my. 651 00:36:45,533 --> 00:36:49,301 My career and for me to want 652 00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:49,533 thing? 653 00:36:49,565 --> 00:36:53,183 You know, all these questions 654 00:36:53,215 --> 00:36:57,607 And after a lot of study and 655 00:36:57,647 --> 00:36:58,759 it's a pillar. 656 00:36:58,823 --> 00:37:02,743 Wealth is a pillar for you to 657 00:37:02,775 --> 00:37:04,831 life and for you to be able to 658 00:37:04,959 --> 00:37:06,743 Wealth is key, right? 659 00:37:06,815 --> 00:37:11,423 So understanding wealth and 660 00:37:11,455 --> 00:37:13,103 important for your spirit. 661 00:37:13,295 --> 00:37:13,887 Right? 662 00:37:14,007 --> 00:37:17,343 And I believe bitcoin 663 00:37:17,375 --> 00:37:20,215 you to be able to build a 664 00:37:20,231 --> 00:37:23,627 to provide for yourself, for 665 00:37:24,027 --> 00:37:28,563 So the natural investor is 666 00:37:28,635 --> 00:37:29,083 initiative. 667 00:37:29,115 --> 00:37:31,595 I'll still be working on it 668 00:37:31,731 --> 00:37:36,443 Where I will be, it's an 669 00:37:36,475 --> 00:37:38,979 that are set up within the 670 00:37:39,003 --> 00:37:39,483 of my life. 671 00:37:39,515 --> 00:37:43,011 But its aim is to be able to 672 00:37:43,059 --> 00:37:46,075 of money, capital and investment. 673 00:37:46,211 --> 00:37:47,967 Like, what are capital goods? 674 00:37:48,627 --> 00:37:53,631 How do you save in a way that 675 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,183 And how do you invest in 676 00:37:58,335 --> 00:37:59,175 for the world? 677 00:37:59,271 --> 00:38:00,687 That is who you are. 678 00:38:00,727 --> 00:38:04,295 Your true spirit, like what is 679 00:38:04,351 --> 00:38:10,455 your money in that way for 680 00:38:10,631 --> 00:38:14,959 I've been selling bitcoin 681 00:38:14,983 --> 00:38:15,947 that's really important. 682 00:38:16,777 --> 00:38:20,977 The aim down the line is to be 683 00:38:21,017 --> 00:38:23,161 to develop markets. 684 00:38:23,249 --> 00:38:30,705 So I'm thinking on nasty 685 00:38:30,761 --> 00:38:39,049 to be able to portion out 686 00:38:39,073 --> 00:38:39,721 of their life. 687 00:38:39,809 --> 00:38:43,009 So if you want to set up a 688 00:38:43,033 --> 00:38:50,711 your sisters or your brothers 689 00:38:50,759 --> 00:38:50,991 up. 690 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,607 So that in the case of an 691 00:38:54,647 --> 00:39:02,415 years time, you want to have a 692 00:39:02,431 --> 00:39:03,031 your family. 693 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:04,747 If you want something for. 694 00:39:05,087 --> 00:39:10,311 You want to build a hostel 695 00:39:10,359 --> 00:39:11,951 different aspects to your hostel. 696 00:39:11,999 --> 00:39:17,599 You might have a bar, a dance 697 00:39:17,623 --> 00:39:20,207 might have the accommodation itself. 698 00:39:20,327 --> 00:39:23,935 You need to be able to figure 699 00:39:23,991 --> 00:39:25,967 cost and when do you want to 700 00:39:26,087 --> 00:39:28,839 But you can portion out 701 00:39:28,863 --> 00:39:33,735 So the natural investors is, 702 00:39:33,831 --> 00:39:35,495 how to structure your capital. 703 00:39:35,671 --> 00:39:39,471 How do you structure your 704 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,717 and the most truly true self 705 00:39:44,137 --> 00:39:50,617 It uses austrian economics as 706 00:39:50,657 --> 00:39:51,265 money. 707 00:39:51,441 --> 00:39:58,209 And then we try and use tools 708 00:39:58,233 --> 00:39:59,557 financial independence. 709 00:40:00,417 --> 00:40:01,697 Its a long term project. 710 00:40:01,817 --> 00:40:08,137 And if anybody is looking to 711 00:40:08,177 --> 00:40:12,561 on how to invest places like 712 00:40:12,569 --> 00:40:16,273 know, several pieces of land 713 00:40:16,425 --> 00:40:20,633 So, you know, if you want to 714 00:40:20,665 --> 00:40:22,329 layer being land. 715 00:40:22,513 --> 00:40:26,577 And you can always call me up, 716 00:40:26,697 --> 00:40:28,961 But there's a lot being built here. 717 00:40:29,089 --> 00:40:31,529 A new world is being built 718 00:40:31,633 --> 00:40:33,345 It's a, it's another renaissance. 719 00:40:33,481 --> 00:40:34,353 And that's not a lie. 720 00:40:34,385 --> 00:40:35,753 I can feel it, I can see it. 721 00:40:35,785 --> 00:40:37,841 I'm talking with people every 722 00:40:37,929 --> 00:40:39,241 It's becoming a reality. 723 00:40:39,369 --> 00:40:41,497 So come, come, please check it out. 724 00:40:41,577 --> 00:40:42,329 See for yourself. 725 00:40:42,393 --> 00:40:44,689 Don't listen to what others 726 00:40:44,753 --> 00:40:45,757 Do verify. 727 00:40:47,137 --> 00:40:50,273 Well, that is a great place to 728 00:40:50,305 --> 00:40:52,489 But Charlie, if you would 729 00:40:52,513 --> 00:40:55,209 go to find out more about you. 730 00:40:55,393 --> 00:40:58,157 Bitcoin Berlin or adopting bitcoin. 731 00:40:58,617 --> 00:41:00,745 So adopting bitcoin has its website. 732 00:41:00,801 --> 00:41:01,273 Check it out. 733 00:41:01,305 --> 00:41:03,697 Sv 24 dot adoptingbitcoin.org. 734 00:41:03,737 --> 00:41:04,877 check that out. 735 00:41:05,267 --> 00:41:09,091 And it's going to be an 736 00:41:09,139 --> 00:41:09,739 It really is. 737 00:41:09,763 --> 00:41:12,327 So do try and make it down. 738 00:41:12,627 --> 00:41:14,339 Bitcoin Berlin has an x. 739 00:41:14,483 --> 00:41:19,499 If you look bitcoin Berlin Sv 740 00:41:19,523 --> 00:41:21,139 find us there. 741 00:41:21,323 --> 00:41:24,267 I think the best way to find 742 00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:25,003 in person. 743 00:41:25,155 --> 00:41:27,027 That's by far the best way. 744 00:41:27,107 --> 00:41:31,139 And then for myself, the 745 00:41:31,203 --> 00:41:34,755 won the natural inve one on X. 746 00:41:34,851 --> 00:41:37,591 That's the best way to find me 747 00:41:37,699 --> 00:41:39,511 Reach out to meet the natural investor. 748 00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:40,711 Always there to help out. 749 00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:41,575 Any questions? 750 00:41:41,631 --> 00:41:46,071 With regards to bitcoin 751 00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,423 in bitcoin, understanding 752 00:41:49,455 --> 00:41:52,907 procedures here in terms of 753 00:41:53,727 --> 00:41:55,647 Well, Charlie, thank you so 754 00:41:55,687 --> 00:41:56,575 It's been a pleasure. 755 00:41:56,711 --> 00:41:58,511 Josh, same as all the best. 756 00:41:58,639 --> 00:41:59,607 Well, friends, it's a wrap. 757 00:41:59,647 --> 00:42:02,399 Thanks so much for listening 758 00:42:02,503 --> 00:42:03,907 Bitcoin is show. 759 00:42:04,027 --> 00:42:06,123 If you want to reach out to 760 00:42:06,155 --> 00:42:07,467 those links down in the show notes. 761 00:42:07,547 --> 00:42:10,275 And if you want to check out 762 00:42:10,371 --> 00:42:12,003 going to adopting bitcoin. 763 00:42:12,075 --> 00:42:14,363 As always, keep building keep growing. 764 00:42:14,435 --> 00:42:21,459 Until next time, keep living 765 00:42:21,483 --> 00:42:23,971 who have been supporting the 766 00:42:24,019 --> 00:42:27,891 Thanks to Tapatingo and 767 00:42:27,939 --> 00:42:32,893 to the show along with BTC on 768 00:42:32,925 --> 00:42:36,397 and wartime who sent a boost 769 00:42:36,517 --> 00:42:38,589 If you would like to support 770 00:42:38,613 --> 00:42:41,989 on Fountain and stream as you 771 00:42:42,013 --> 00:42:44,989 include a note with that 772 00:42:45,013 --> 00:42:45,237 the show.