The reason why I started this
look outside of our community
And on the other hand, you
to work in bitcoin and can't
So I thought, there is
those two parties together.
I always say every role that
fiat world is available in
banker, of course.
Welcome to the Business
to helping you enrich your
bitcoin, the hardest money on
I'm your host, Josh Friedman,
of bit vocation.
Anya helps people find jobs in
And today we're gonna be
doing, who you need to be
be spending your time in order
We're going to get to our
Anya, welcome to the show.
Thank you, Joshua.
It's really nice to meet you.
So I like to start off every
that help us to get to know
us some insight for our own lives.
Are you ready for these?
Yeah.
Let's do it.
Question number one.
Is this, when and how did you
In 2013.
And I ignored it, like many of us.
And because it had nothing to
of a door.
Bitcoin accepted here, and I
or something.
And, yeah, two years later, in
fixing my savings problem that
And that's when I heard about
And this time, I took it
it.
So I found it twice, like many
Yeah.
Question number two.
What's an insight or fact
understood?
Yeah.
That scarcity creates abundance.
I think that is something that
And I hang out, or I have been
community that cares a lot
abundance, and if they would
more and how it works and how
opposite of abundance in life,
So I think it's important to
first in order to really have
Question number three, what's
to other people?
I think it's still Andreas Antonopoulos.
I know he's disappeared a
when I first got in in 2015,
spoke a language that I could
So he is still the person that
of course, we have many more
there now, but I think for my
to me, he is still the number
Question number four, beyond
idea that's been helpful to
AI, of course, not chat GPT,
but there's this new one
I've started to use because
all my prompts in the browser,
I use it every day.
Yes.
And so what are some of the
It's been a while since that
You know, as soon as chat GPT
on this show.
A few other people have said
a half, two years.
But I am sort of curious to
for you when it comes to using AI?
It's content creation.
Like as a business owner, you
content, and whether it's
an image for a landing page or
And I still write because I
I have a creative mind, so I
pop it into Venice and I'm
make this a little bit better
a LinkedIn post or whatever.
Yeah, it's very helpful for productivity.
Now we have our final, what we
question, and it's this.
As a general life principle,
This is such a great question.
I would say both.
Because there is balance in
makes you think deeply about things.
I think, but why not?
Is something that just
If you are trying to make a
why not?
Or why not?
Both.
Yeah.
They have different energies
Well, anya, we're here today
If you would just lay it out
What's the goal behind bitvocation?
And how long have you been at
Yeah, so bit vocation started
I noticed how many bitcoiners
just don't know how, how to start.
They think, oh, I have to be a
And yeah, I've been working in
Where are we now, 2024?
Yeah, for five or six years.
So I know how this industry works.
And I was really looking for a
community and I realized, oh,
So bitvocation aims to connect
the bitcoin community.
Not so much as a recruitment
Who knows?
This might change in the future.
But that was not the initial
and maybe automation and just
So how we started was with the
basically just posts all the
nice feed that every bitcoiner
And, yeah, instead of checking
the bitcoiner job boards, they
That's how we started.
In the meantime, we've also
something similar the other
Like do we have a feed of job
into?
So there's a lot happening in
Now, the reason why I started
recruiters look outside of our
jobs.
And on the other hand, you
to work in bitcoin and can't
So I thought, there is
those two parties together.
So that is the whole goal of
Yeah.
So I'm curious to know a
kind of some of the things
on your past work.
You said you've been working
the last five or six years.
What are some of the things
both skill wise?
I mean, I'm thinking technical
of people that work well in a
So I think developers
We have now data that it's
jobs are developer jobs, which
like just common sense wise.
So the bitcoin job market
than in a bull market.
So in a bear market, teams are
The developers.
So in a bear market, you would
be out there.
In a bull market, when teams
all the other to fill all the
And that is all the non tech
grow and scale.
Marketing, maybe proper HR
customer support.
In a bull market, when you
because people just hear about
service teams get just tons
So like times ten, so they
So that is what's important to know.
And yeah, I always say every
traditional fiat world is
the role of central banker.
Of course, all the other jobs
And yeah, and we now actually
collecting data for over a
it's very interesting to see,
I was seeing.
We can back this up with data now.
So we are publishing this on
We have published them twice now.
We will do this monthly, so
details over there.
I'm curious to understand, you
bull and the bear market and
for a while, definitely
When it comes to the job
hires the customer success
do those essentially become
that once you join a team in a
comes back around, which we're
here, then will you still have
Or is it one of those things
this seasonality, you don't
in a more traditional role?
Yeah, very, very, very
If you want job security,
So this is a reality of not
that is just, that is made up
Like even forgetting about
it in bitcoin.
We have this four year cycle
18 months or something.
So that is absolutely a
job in bull market, and then
money properly, which is also
your job.
Again, it is a reality even, I
like, even as established
know, they have funding and
that half of the stuff is
So that is a reality.
So, yeah, that's why I'm
Because many people want to
and move into bitcoin.
But if security and stability
a family to feed, think twice
fiat job.
It's also an important role
a meaningful job is more
can afford to make it more important.
Well, yeah, then bitcoin is
So I guess to that point, I'd
a job at a bitcoin company,
or let go, how much easier, or
already had a bitcoin job to
I think so.
Because proof of work.
Yeah.
So of course, if you already
job in bitcoin is easier than
On the other hand, most
had a proper first job
of work, or they're doing it
You are doing a podcast.
I used to write a lot.
Other people run meetups or
bitcoiner, every true
to the network in some shape
And whether they create
other things and educate
has a proof of work.
And all they need to do is to
So that is also something that
how to become findable, how to
online and mainly on LinkedIn.
Unfortunately, we may note, I
the number one place where
So that's why if you're
make sure that on LinkedIn,
somewhere in your profile.
I would do a little bit more.
So this is all.
Yeah, I have a little program
Some people may have reasons
on LinkedIn, but if you can do
generate leads of jobs and be found.
What's your tagline?
Because on LinkedIn, people
they do.
Is yours?
It's something like stacksats
I know other people have that.
Do you remember what yours is
No, I think I just put bitco,
I mean, yeah, founder, bit vocation.
But you can use your pronouns.
My pronouns are BTC and Hodler.
There it is.
Yeah.
I've seen people doing similar
think that's a good.
A good reminder.
I feel like you go through
more and less relevant, but
jobs, I think a lot of people
place to be.
So it's interesting to hear
be kind of a bit of a wake up
Yeah.
So I've spoken to many
course, for research reasons,
first address where they look.
Some of them are really active
So I would advise people to go
how Noster works and not just
I don't know.
Twitter is.
I don't know if it's still the
Maybe for some, but yeah, I
depending for the non
easier to show their skills
everything on LinkedIn in
Twitter maybe also, but the
Well, it's cool to hear that
for that.
I think that's very valuable.
One of the other things I'm
of people that either bitcoin
tend to end up getting jobs
How is it.
How.
How is that person's
people working in fiat jobs?
Is it as simple as some
than being okay with being
Or is it too all over the map
so.
I think one really important
the entrepreneurial mindset,
But just finding a job is an
In bitcoin, you need to do
You need to know how to
network.
That's something that
Consider that this an
to have a proof of work, and
and, yeah, show that proof of
This is something that in the
that are selling a product or
But this is how you get ahead
This is new skills.
And if you come with a fiat
will not be successful.
And I speak to a lot of job
I keep getting rejected or
But what are you doing?
Oh, yeah, I just click, apply,
Nobody sees.
I mean, you need to write your
You need to forget, actually,
That's a whole other topic
bitcoin.
But make your link.
Honestly, the LinkedIn is the
in this space.
That is your sales page for
And that is something that an
But I think bitcoiners are
Now, one of the terms we've
is fiat job.
I think you've also just said
Could you explain to someone
If it's all bitcoiners
all understand what we're saying.
But if someone else is
understand what you mean by that.
So could you explain a little
Fiat mindset, fiat whatever else.
Yeah.
Thanks for asking this.
So, to me, the bitcoiner
The fiat mindset is you can
You know, like, you get a
in a fiat job, whether you did
you just sit there from nine
But are you actually creating value?
Yeah.
In bitcoin, you can only reap
first, if you have proved the
work.
So that is the, to me, that is
And fiat jobs, of course, are
that in the traditional world
So if someone is interested in
what are some of the services
How can you help people?
What would be some of those
if they've listened to this
their desire to work in the
Yeah, so the first address,
One is our telegram feed.
People can just type bit
to the free channel.
And basically they will see
that we are scraping.
And the other address I would
So we will have a website
if you type it in right now,
Maybe we can put the link below.
So it's bitvocation dot
And there we have a free
job in bitcoin, which covers a
about and a little bit more in detail.
And, yeah, we are also going
the very near future for
help and support.
So whether it's connected to
do you have any final thoughts
before we finish up the interview?
Yeah, I just.
I want everybody to, every
I think helps this baby grow.
We all want bitcoin to be successful.
So whether we can help
space or we need to bring fiat
and orange peel them, let's
make this grow, because it's
Well, it's the only way to fix
I truly believe that, yeah.
In addition to the substack
other places you'd like for
up with you?
Yeah, I'm on Twitter and on Noster.
I'm trying to be more active
Economy is my handle pretty
And we have a link tree.
I don't know if maybe we can
our links because we are still
They often change so we keep
the latest addresses.
Great.
Well, anya, thank you so much
It's been a pleasure.
Thank you so much.
Joshua.
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