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We're taking a very.

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I don't like to use the word revolutionary.

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I like to use the word

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With liquid vitamins instead

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is and believing in sound

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that we've talked about for a

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So now let's put it into

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Welcome to the Business

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to helping you enrich your

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bitcoin, the hardest money on

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I'm your host, Josh Friedeman,

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who's the owner of Tropical

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brand.

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Today on the show, we're going

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Oasis has recently started

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John is also going to share

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sell online.

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We're going to be talking

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working for Ron Paul.

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We're going to get to our

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John, welcome to the podcast.

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Thanks, Josh.

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Thanks for having me.

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So I'd like to start off every

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that help us to get to know

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us some insight for our own lives.

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You ready for these?

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Yes, sir.

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Question number one is this.

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When and how did you first

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Bitcoin in 2010.

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And the craziest story ever,

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undergrad back at Stephen F.

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Austin State University who

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new competing currency since

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It would be so powerless.

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like that.

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For years he was doing this.

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He's a billionaire now.

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None of us have really heard

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But he was what a pioneer to

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I wish I would have not sold

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made a.

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for the fact that I didn't

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And it's just crazy to think

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on your computer and getting

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It's just crazy to think about.

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But here we are and probably a

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Question number two is what's.

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What's an insight or fact

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understood?

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I wish everyone understood

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an investment where you're buying.

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to replace traditional fiat

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it's not just money, it's real

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out long ago that, oh, you

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government, it's not real

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it value, right?

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but then it can just be stolen

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else is also money, it's not

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exchange I think is when

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we've really, really got a

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figure numbers in bitcoin.

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I'm more of a alternative

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that type.

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forums and sites.

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get started, even if it's

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date on it, I think that's

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what prevents them from

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they're like, wow, I just, and

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or idea that's been helpful to

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landing pages and websites and

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skill for building wealth in

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you know, the real gold is

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learning e commerce, that's

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in modern times is how do you

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oil wells every now and then

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audience and that traffic.

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in the interview, but for

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we call our arbitrary but

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ways that things have been

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to always ask why, and to

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only existing institutions,

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Why do these things happen?

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up all this debt to go fight

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we've got problems here at home?

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charge and accountability and

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for a thriving civilization.

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Well, John, we're here today

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you're involved with, but

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us because your business,

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to accept Bitcoin.

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I want to talk about that.

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The interesting thing about

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vitamin which may have been

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I haven't really followed that

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it's certainly not the norm

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about Tropical Oasis and then

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connected to your brand and Bitcoin?

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The whole pitch of the brand

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form instead of pills or capsules.

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It doesn't taste good.

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really taking off and it's a

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I've got a few examples here.

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the cap and you take a shot.

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So it's like a 32 day supply.

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loss, multivitamin, vision,

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dollars a year and now we're

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I'm a big proponent of if you

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grateful to be a part of it.

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tropical OAs make sense

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and Tropical Oasis came with it.

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sense for you to bring it all

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curve to do that, but we were

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a business to buy.

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revived this brand.

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focus in liquid and powders.

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to give people a healthy

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bodies.

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And to be in the non alcoholic

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for us because alcohol is, you

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I mean, there's just so many

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where cigarettes hit it in the

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I mean it's not going anywhere

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on a newer, healthier, more

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So you mentioned how over the

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the multivitamin or whatever

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that you have a few different multivitamins.

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let's call it.

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good but still be healthy and

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harms your body?

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three product developers under him.

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You can make mud water taste good.

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We try to avoid that one at

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But there's, you know, some

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want that.

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So it's really whatever the

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But we tend to stick to sugar

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Stevia is a good choice.

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Monk fruit is a great choice too.

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We try to avoid the sucralose

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taste like candy, but at what cost?

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Right.

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And that's the real challenge

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to make it taste good.

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Because if something isn't

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going to come back.

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Whereas pills and capsules,

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Right.

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You can just stuff it all into

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anyway.

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So making things taste good is

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But we try to stick to the

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Insulin for one, or they're

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So that's really the answer there.

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Yeah, so I was Looking at your

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of comparing it to some other

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you mentioned that there's a

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you have equal or higher

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the liquid form, which would

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a whole lot more of the vitamin.

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I'm curious to know though,

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or powder form, are there

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to pack into the multivitamin

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form?

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Any like, what are the trade

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powders and pills?

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Yeah, well, nothing is easier

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Because now you're dealing

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environments you've got a

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and safety procedures.

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Because in a moist environment

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problems happen, you know, all

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You know, so we have to have a

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Whereas when you're just

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capsules, it's a much easier,

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But on the liquid side, not

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you've got all kinds of SOPs

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to follow, but there's no real

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Some of them react a little

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So like your B vitamins or C.

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Vitamin C does not do well.

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If you, for instance, if you

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if there was a heating step in

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prevent any kind of bacteria

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bit of a reaction to see.

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So that limits us a little bit

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But there's a hole.

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It's a fascinating field.

347
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There's, there's a whole

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And you know, we're very,

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We've got, you know, our head

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You know, he, he's basically a

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he's developed institutional

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to heat up the flavors just a

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sweetener.

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And then it's, it's a truly.

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Liquid is a, it's a totally

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And why, and it's honestly why

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it.

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There's not really players in

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to manufacture, they're heavy

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So that, but there's, you

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a dozen, whereas liquid,

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the space.

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So it's, it's allowed us to

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market share.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So if people are interested in

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would be some of the great

368
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Any recommendations?

369
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Things that are really popular?

370
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Yeah.

371
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Tropicaloasis.com, there's

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there.

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We put out a lot of content on

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We're starting to get into

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It's a whole new vertical.

376
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I'm definitely not well versed

377
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But our Amazon is a great

378
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want that, that convenience of shopping.

379
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You know, We've got over

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so we've built that business

381
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So there's just, there's a lot

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a lot of different videos, we

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three board certified

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So there's a ton of

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And, and then if you just had

386
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We've got an inside sales

387
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the product too.

388
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Yeah, well, I saw in your bio

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on Amazon.

390
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So I'd love to hear a little

391
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mentioned being able to sell online.

392
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So someone listening to this

393
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may or may not have an online presence.

394
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There's a good chance that

395
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But what would you recommend

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they've cracked the COD or

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enter into the online world in

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and then maybe also what are

399
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to them if they wanted to

400
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right things.

401
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Yeah, absolutely.

402
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So Amazon's interesting

403
00:23:04,985 --> 00:23:08,441
training wheels, sadly.

404
00:23:08,489 --> 00:23:12,425
Well, not sadly, it's just

405
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But what's beautiful about

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are already shopping for

407
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So you have this built in

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to buy.

409
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So your cost of acquisition of

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already got people that are looking.

411
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And even with Amazon taking

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things that you have to do on

413
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it's very rare you're able to

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on your adwords.

415
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You mess up on your

416
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You pretty much make profit

417
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acquisition cost is so much

418
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traffic there.

419
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So we built our business on

420
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It was a, you know, that was

421
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in the last two or three years

422
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off Amazon and start building

423
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or landing pages.

424
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A couple of benefits there.

425
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Number one, you don't pay

426
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But two, you own the data

427
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You can then remarket to those

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market and cross promote other

429
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Whereas Amazon, they own that

430
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to them it's great.

431
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You're kind of like renting

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cash flow but you're not

433
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just have all your business on Amazon.

434
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However, it's an amazing place

435
00:24:48,871 --> 00:24:52,079
well venture backed because

436
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immediate profit if it's done correctly.

437
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There's a lot of good

438
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There's a couple of

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One called sellercon which is,

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and Amazon itself actually

441
00:25:10,823 --> 00:25:13,647
all the big sellers can come

442
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things at work and don't work.

443
00:25:14,963 --> 00:25:17,211
What's cool about E commerce

444
00:25:17,299 --> 00:25:21,387
is like we don't keep secrets

445
00:25:21,427 --> 00:25:22,475
like we share, right?

446
00:25:22,531 --> 00:25:26,619
Because there's plenty of room

447
00:25:26,723 --> 00:25:27,979
it's not a zero sum game.

448
00:25:28,003 --> 00:25:29,527
We all win, right?

449
00:25:30,227 --> 00:25:31,643
But anyway, that's Amazon.

450
00:25:31,675 --> 00:25:34,939
But then if you really want to

451
00:25:34,963 --> 00:25:38,203
in E commerce is selling on

452
00:25:38,235 --> 00:25:38,987
pages, right?

453
00:25:39,027 --> 00:25:40,167
But that's hard.

454
00:25:40,467 --> 00:25:42,459
I mean that's a lot of trial

455
00:25:42,523 --> 00:25:45,675
You've got to have lots of

456
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You've got to have very expert

457
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That's when you move to the

458
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at scale off of Amazon.

459
00:25:55,427 --> 00:25:57,567
So let's move to the bitcoin portion.

460
00:25:57,907 --> 00:26:00,123
You've obviously known about bitcoin.

461
00:26:00,235 --> 00:26:06,167
Had bitcoin been in, I guess

462
00:26:06,677 --> 00:26:10,093
What was it that got you to go

463
00:26:10,165 --> 00:26:11,677
And what does that look like?

464
00:26:11,717 --> 00:26:12,589
Is it accepting it?

465
00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:14,061
Is it holding on the balance sheet?

466
00:26:14,189 --> 00:26:16,657
Have you thought through some

467
00:26:17,157 --> 00:26:17,805
Yeah.

468
00:26:17,901 --> 00:26:21,453
So, number one, just accepting

469
00:26:21,565 --> 00:26:22,217
Right.

470
00:26:23,157 --> 00:26:30,221
Because I think it opens us up

471
00:26:30,269 --> 00:26:34,951
enthusiasts who, you know,

472
00:26:34,999 --> 00:26:37,907
and been involved in the

473
00:26:38,927 --> 00:26:46,387
Our goal is to be the chosen

474
00:26:47,007 --> 00:26:50,951
because much like them, I

475
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,871
I don't like to use the word revolutionary.

476
00:26:52,919 --> 00:26:56,423
I like to use the word

477
00:26:56,455 --> 00:26:57,671
instead of pills or capsules.

478
00:26:57,719 --> 00:26:59,033
It's very innovative.

479
00:26:59,215 --> 00:27:01,781
Just like bitcoin is for currency.

480
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:02,577
Right.

481
00:27:02,957 --> 00:27:09,909
So I think us becoming that

482
00:27:10,093 --> 00:27:13,541
opens us up to an entirely new

483
00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:14,965
else is really doing this right.

484
00:27:15,021 --> 00:27:18,197
And no one else is really in

485
00:27:18,237 --> 00:27:23,061
But yes, we offer a rewards

486
00:27:23,109 --> 00:27:25,765
them to pay in bitcoin.

487
00:27:25,861 --> 00:27:29,279
We offer that as a rewards

488
00:27:29,423 --> 00:27:33,311
And then we, you know, and

489
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out of the gate.

490
00:27:34,543 --> 00:27:39,199
And, you know, when we accept

491
00:27:39,223 --> 00:27:42,575
we either hold it or we'll

492
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But I think it just.

493
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The main reason we're

494
00:27:48,223 --> 00:27:50,511
and kind of putting our money

495
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,475
in sound currency and

496
00:27:53,491 --> 00:27:54,595
talked about for a long time.

497
00:27:54,651 --> 00:27:57,127
So now let's put it into

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So you've mentioned earlier

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you don't do a lot of

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00:28:05,955 --> 00:28:09,027
people listening to this

501
00:28:09,147 --> 00:28:12,131
podcasts that are bitcoin

502
00:28:12,179 --> 00:28:13,087
things like that.

503
00:28:13,627 --> 00:28:17,523
It seems like you're

504
00:28:17,675 --> 00:28:21,451
And you also mentioned the Ron

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00:28:21,619 --> 00:28:25,803
I think it'd be interesting to

506
00:28:25,835 --> 00:28:28,107
and thinking across the years,

507
00:28:28,147 --> 00:28:32,407
also how you view bitcoin in

508
00:28:33,267 --> 00:28:37,963
Well, to start, even though I

509
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in any of the podcasting and

510
00:28:41,043 --> 00:28:42,011
much as I can.

511
00:28:42,179 --> 00:28:42,891
Sure.

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00:28:43,059 --> 00:28:46,901
I try to get as many decimal

513
00:28:46,979 --> 00:28:52,273
costing average technique

514
00:28:52,305 --> 00:28:53,745
of the month, how much can I buy?

515
00:28:53,801 --> 00:28:54,017
Right.

516
00:28:54,057 --> 00:28:57,345
I have a, you know, recurring

517
00:28:57,361 --> 00:28:59,569
I don't even pay that much

518
00:28:59,633 --> 00:29:00,641
Like in, in fiat.

519
00:29:00,689 --> 00:29:01,681
Like I, I just.

520
00:29:01,769 --> 00:29:03,857
How many decimal points can I get?

521
00:29:03,897 --> 00:29:06,289
Because we all know that day's

522
00:29:06,353 --> 00:29:09,153
Like we, we, anybody,

523
00:29:09,225 --> 00:29:10,849
So my strategy is simple.

524
00:29:10,913 --> 00:29:13,025
I, I've done mining in the past.

525
00:29:13,081 --> 00:29:17,901
I invested in a mining deal

526
00:29:17,989 --> 00:29:19,165
I've done some, all of that.

527
00:29:19,221 --> 00:29:21,133
I've done trading platforms.

528
00:29:21,165 --> 00:29:23,245
But the best thing I've

529
00:29:23,381 --> 00:29:24,061
Right.

530
00:29:24,229 --> 00:29:27,133
And that might be short

531
00:29:27,165 --> 00:29:29,337
as a lot of people have done,

532
00:29:30,357 --> 00:29:33,517
Well, just real quick there

533
00:29:33,557 --> 00:29:33,757
thought.

534
00:29:33,797 --> 00:29:36,477
There are a lot of people who

535
00:29:36,517 --> 00:29:39,709
all the right answers and

536
00:29:39,813 --> 00:29:43,885
Just buying it is way better

537
00:29:43,941 --> 00:29:44,665
about it.

538
00:29:44,821 --> 00:29:45,857
Right, exactly.

539
00:29:45,937 --> 00:29:48,529
And I also find out the

540
00:29:48,553 --> 00:29:49,889
who didn't get involved with it.

541
00:29:49,993 --> 00:29:50,545
Right?

542
00:29:50,681 --> 00:29:52,561
That's usually funny to watch.

543
00:29:52,649 --> 00:29:56,769
But although what I always say

544
00:29:56,793 --> 00:29:59,729
usually bitcoiners, it's very

545
00:29:59,753 --> 00:30:02,929
great critique of bitcoin who

546
00:30:03,033 --> 00:30:04,753
Peter Schiff, whatever.

547
00:30:04,785 --> 00:30:05,969
Oh my God, that's embarrassing.

548
00:30:06,033 --> 00:30:06,993
Yeah, for sure.

549
00:30:07,065 --> 00:30:10,225
But no, no, it's yeah, for

550
00:30:10,281 --> 00:30:15,687
But I guess another one other

551
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:19,035
the hurtful part is to go look

552
00:30:19,091 --> 00:30:25,531
2014 when you sold 15 bitcoin

553
00:30:25,539 --> 00:30:25,851
stomach.

554
00:30:25,899 --> 00:30:27,547
But anyway, it is what it is.

555
00:30:27,587 --> 00:30:31,035
You can't change the past and

556
00:30:31,131 --> 00:30:35,851
But anyway, to get back to the

557
00:30:35,899 --> 00:30:37,687
not just for bitcoin but for.

558
00:30:38,147 --> 00:30:40,875
I'm definitely a collector of

559
00:30:40,931 --> 00:30:45,315
Anything that, that's kind of

560
00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:52,451
Because I was awakened to the

561
00:30:52,499 --> 00:30:58,067
around 2012, a little earlier

562
00:30:58,147 --> 00:31:02,419
speak and I heard him speak at

563
00:31:02,443 --> 00:31:04,579
on the news and I followed his

564
00:31:04,603 --> 00:31:10,167
And then in 2012 I joined and

565
00:31:10,627 --> 00:31:13,947
And of course it was all of us

566
00:31:13,987 --> 00:31:14,235
way.

567
00:31:14,291 --> 00:31:18,635
So we were just talking about

568
00:31:18,691 --> 00:31:22,299
Ron, our movement, what's cool

569
00:31:22,323 --> 00:31:24,731
wasn't really a political

570
00:31:24,779 --> 00:31:30,107
movement for sound money, for

571
00:31:30,147 --> 00:31:33,787
to awaken you to all the

572
00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:34,075
Right.

573
00:31:34,131 --> 00:31:37,667
So, so what's cool about Ron

574
00:31:37,707 --> 00:31:42,275
he gives you a reading list of

575
00:31:42,331 --> 00:31:47,603
foreign policy to monetary

576
00:31:47,675 --> 00:31:48,531
routes, right?

577
00:31:48,619 --> 00:31:54,643
So then I followed his reading

578
00:31:54,675 --> 00:31:56,995
like the Creature from Jekyll

579
00:31:57,131 --> 00:32:00,105
And then you read Ron's book

580
00:32:00,211 --> 00:32:04,829
And so then I just went on

581
00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:08,541
what has the government done

582
00:32:08,629 --> 00:32:12,205
It's the biggest scam that's

583
00:32:12,261 --> 00:32:16,893
When the total century of

584
00:32:16,965 --> 00:32:21,693
century of war and poverty and

585
00:32:21,765 --> 00:32:22,413
have happened.

586
00:32:22,445 --> 00:32:26,899
And it's all enabled by being

587
00:32:27,003 --> 00:32:32,451
And when I found out that

588
00:32:32,579 --> 00:32:36,047
was when I really fell in love

589
00:32:37,387 --> 00:32:43,395
And so I guess these days

590
00:32:43,451 --> 00:32:44,291
valuably spent?

591
00:32:44,339 --> 00:32:46,691
Obviously you have some of

592
00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:51,587
a major thrust for you is just

593
00:32:51,667 --> 00:32:56,049
for a future where Fiat's

594
00:32:56,233 --> 00:32:59,317
So where do you see your time

595
00:32:59,657 --> 00:33:04,317
Two areas it's growing the

596
00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:11,025
We're always looking for new

597
00:33:11,161 --> 00:33:15,569
People who have a brand or

598
00:33:15,593 --> 00:33:19,105
a massive volume or that maybe

599
00:33:19,161 --> 00:33:22,037
a lot of volume and they need

600
00:33:22,507 --> 00:33:29,347
A lot of manufacturers in our

601
00:33:29,387 --> 00:33:33,683
fashioned and we're trying to

602
00:33:33,755 --> 00:33:35,487
to a very old school industry.

603
00:33:36,107 --> 00:33:39,027
So really brands who are

604
00:33:39,067 --> 00:33:43,475
on customer service and

605
00:33:43,531 --> 00:33:44,127
times.

606
00:33:44,747 --> 00:33:48,659
I work a lot on courting those

607
00:33:48,683 --> 00:33:51,349
to come make their product

608
00:33:51,493 --> 00:33:56,537
The other half is spent on the

609
00:33:57,917 --> 00:34:05,269
But the real another part that

610
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:11,877
in the recent years is in 2019

611
00:34:11,917 --> 00:34:16,409
uses DNA technology to reunite

612
00:34:16,433 --> 00:34:17,037
parents.

613
00:34:17,537 --> 00:34:21,945
And we've successfully done

614
00:34:22,081 --> 00:34:27,797
So you'll have a child that's

615
00:34:28,097 --> 00:34:30,857
and they don't even know their

616
00:34:30,937 --> 00:34:31,609
are.

617
00:34:31,793 --> 00:34:34,953
And we're able to get their

618
00:34:35,065 --> 00:34:38,997
And then you'll have parents

619
00:34:39,297 --> 00:34:41,193
that are looking for their child.

620
00:34:41,265 --> 00:34:44,461
And then if you get both

621
00:34:44,509 --> 00:34:45,565
you can have a match.

622
00:34:45,701 --> 00:34:49,709
So my real passion is not even

623
00:34:49,893 --> 00:34:54,377
My passion is philanthropy and

624
00:34:55,237 --> 00:35:01,693
I was invited in 2023 to speak

625
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:05,417
Academy of Sciences and I got

626
00:35:06,677 --> 00:35:09,325
So that was a special time as well.

627
00:35:09,381 --> 00:35:13,651
But it's been fun trying to

628
00:35:13,739 --> 00:35:15,651
to set up these systems.

629
00:35:15,699 --> 00:35:20,483
But obviously it takes a lot

630
00:35:20,555 --> 00:35:24,771
So that's my purpose for

631
00:35:24,779 --> 00:35:25,967
world a better place.

632
00:35:27,067 --> 00:35:29,011
So do you lead that organization?

633
00:35:29,139 --> 00:35:30,659
Do you have other people

634
00:35:30,763 --> 00:35:31,555
What does that look like?

635
00:35:31,611 --> 00:35:33,043
Because it seems like a big operation.

636
00:35:33,155 --> 00:35:37,457
The name of the organization

637
00:35:37,497 --> 00:35:38,305
that organization.

638
00:35:38,401 --> 00:35:43,089
I'm on the board and a co

639
00:35:43,193 --> 00:35:46,353
director and then we have a

640
00:35:46,385 --> 00:35:47,809
not a scientist at all.

641
00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:50,001
But our partner, his name is Dr.

642
00:35:50,049 --> 00:35:51,425
Jose Laurente.

643
00:35:51,601 --> 00:35:55,969
He's a world famous DNA

644
00:35:55,993 --> 00:35:57,393
Granada, Spain.

645
00:35:57,585 --> 00:36:01,393
He actually discovered

646
00:36:01,585 --> 00:36:04,785
He's, he's next level and he's

647
00:36:04,881 --> 00:36:06,993
He's what I'd call a celebrity geneticist.

648
00:36:07,105 --> 00:36:11,521
And he's been doing this for

649
00:36:11,689 --> 00:36:18,145
And when he realized how his

650
00:36:18,201 --> 00:36:22,625
wow, why don't we use this to

651
00:36:22,761 --> 00:36:24,317
So that was what he did.

652
00:36:24,617 --> 00:36:30,679
And we happened to meet in

653
00:36:30,743 --> 00:36:32,279
relationship was born.

654
00:36:32,423 --> 00:36:37,147
We've been to four or five

655
00:36:37,727 --> 00:36:41,987
victims and how DNA was able

656
00:36:42,527 --> 00:36:47,303
And it's been a real blessing

657
00:36:47,335 --> 00:36:47,719
about.

658
00:36:47,823 --> 00:36:51,927
And it's something that my

659
00:36:52,047 --> 00:36:56,273
for a long time because the

660
00:36:56,385 --> 00:36:57,313
It's true insanity.

661
00:36:57,345 --> 00:36:59,121
We're modern day slavery.

662
00:36:59,249 --> 00:37:03,729
Human slavery is at an all

663
00:37:03,793 --> 00:37:07,837
numbers of how many children

664
00:37:08,457 --> 00:37:10,577
And could you share that

665
00:37:10,697 --> 00:37:11,025
Yep.

666
00:37:11,041 --> 00:37:16,145
It's a returned with an ed

667
00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:18,993
One other thing that I want to

668
00:37:19,025 --> 00:37:22,329
interview is you mentioned

669
00:37:22,353 --> 00:37:23,397
of what you're doing.

670
00:37:23,777 --> 00:37:27,993
Do you see any changes on the

671
00:37:28,025 --> 00:37:30,889
Because I know Trump wants to

672
00:37:30,913 --> 00:37:32,697
liquid vitamins may not be at

673
00:37:32,737 --> 00:37:37,737
But just in general, do you

674
00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:41,545
or so for manufacturers who

675
00:37:41,721 --> 00:37:43,637
Man, I really hope so.

676
00:37:45,137 --> 00:37:48,975
You never know, it'll be tough

677
00:37:49,071 --> 00:37:51,627
they definitely do talk a big game.

678
00:37:52,407 --> 00:37:56,447
Where I'm really hopeful is I

679
00:37:56,487 --> 00:37:57,327
Kennedy Jr.

680
00:37:57,407 --> 00:37:59,103
This last election cycle.

681
00:37:59,135 --> 00:38:02,911
I actually held an event for

682
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:05,947
and he came and we raised him

683
00:38:07,127 --> 00:38:11,663
He is one of those high

684
00:38:11,735 --> 00:38:14,441
seldom meet in a lifetime and

685
00:38:14,449 --> 00:38:18,505
couple of them between him,

686
00:38:18,561 --> 00:38:23,737
But he truly embodies what I

687
00:38:23,777 --> 00:38:28,489
in this country from getting

688
00:38:28,553 --> 00:38:32,489
under control that are not

689
00:38:32,513 --> 00:38:34,601
it earlier in the interview,

690
00:38:34,689 --> 00:38:38,761
And he is the king of asking

691
00:38:38,809 --> 00:38:41,105
capture and, and all the

692
00:38:41,161 --> 00:38:44,609
And I mean you just see how

693
00:38:44,633 --> 00:38:46,529
day when he got, when they was

694
00:38:46,553 --> 00:38:49,505
They're just panicking because

695
00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:53,281
for all of the royalties

696
00:38:53,369 --> 00:38:57,457
And I mean it's truly like

697
00:38:57,497 --> 00:38:58,273
set us free.

698
00:38:58,345 --> 00:39:00,241
And you know, RFK Jr.

699
00:39:00,289 --> 00:39:03,329
Is, you know, what I see as a

700
00:39:03,393 --> 00:39:06,727
probably most excited about

701
00:39:07,347 --> 00:39:11,835
weaning Americans off of drugs

702
00:39:11,891 --> 00:39:15,867
on natural alternatives and

703
00:39:15,907 --> 00:39:16,395
different things.

704
00:39:16,451 --> 00:39:20,407
So I think if I was going to

705
00:39:20,787 --> 00:39:25,131
put all the manufacturing

706
00:39:25,179 --> 00:39:28,763
that we can get back to a more

707
00:39:28,795 --> 00:39:30,981
and that's what the type of

708
00:39:31,029 --> 00:39:32,217
age old nutrition.

709
00:39:32,717 --> 00:39:34,901
Well, that seems to be a

710
00:39:34,949 --> 00:39:37,429
Do you have any final thoughts

711
00:39:37,453 --> 00:39:39,797
would you like people to go to

712
00:39:39,917 --> 00:39:40,821
Yeah, absolutely.

713
00:39:40,869 --> 00:39:44,117
So I, you know, would love for

714
00:39:44,237 --> 00:39:49,461
Tropicaloasis.com you know,

715
00:39:49,509 --> 00:39:53,893
it's, you're hooked because

716
00:39:53,965 --> 00:39:54,421
amazing.

717
00:39:54,469 --> 00:39:57,939
Your energy levels, your skin

718
00:39:57,963 --> 00:39:58,835
many benefits there.

719
00:39:58,891 --> 00:40:01,427
So once you take it, you're

720
00:40:01,507 --> 00:40:04,707
Our lifetime value of

721
00:40:04,787 --> 00:40:05,075
rate.

722
00:40:05,131 --> 00:40:05,635
Right.

723
00:40:05,771 --> 00:40:12,147
And then, you know, also

724
00:40:12,307 --> 00:40:14,131
you know, it's a, it's, you

725
00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:18,099
It's a worldwide movement

726
00:40:18,163 --> 00:40:19,407
in our time, I believe.

727
00:40:19,947 --> 00:40:20,355
Great.

728
00:40:20,411 --> 00:40:21,779
John, thank you so much for

729
00:40:21,803 --> 00:40:22,485
It's been a pleasure.

730
00:40:22,571 --> 00:40:23,489
Thank you.

731
00:40:23,673 --> 00:40:24,705
Well friends, it's a wrap.

732
00:40:24,721 --> 00:40:28,145
Thanks so much for listening

733
00:40:28,241 --> 00:40:28,593
show.

734
00:40:28,665 --> 00:40:30,929
If you want to reach out to

735
00:40:30,953 --> 00:40:32,577
links down in the show notes.

736
00:40:32,657 --> 00:40:36,769
And next time you're looking

737
00:40:36,833 --> 00:40:39,297
Oasis Health as always, keep

738
00:40:39,377 --> 00:40:42,177
Until next time, keep living

739
00:40:42,257 --> 00:40:50,651
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