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Hey, Josh.

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You should go, man.

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Hey, Bitcoin, it's the

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So this is the pushy part, and

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way that people are kind of drawn.

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Oh, man, this is interesting.

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I want to.

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So I think this is like the

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We're applying a third principle.

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I know how many people, you

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Welcome to the Bitcoin

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strategies for using bitcoin

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I'm your host, Josh Friedeman,

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who is the co founder and CEO

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Beyond the Checkout has just

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rewards for physical products.

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We're going to get to our

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Oliver, welcome to the podcast.

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Josh, thank you very much for

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So I like to start off every

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that help us to get to know

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us some insight for our own lives.

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Are you ready for these?

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Ready.

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Question number one is this.

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When and how did you first

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So, like, the story goes like this.

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I have, like, I heard about

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I think I went down the rabbit

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2008 and 2008, we had a big

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a bike so I can go commute to

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where the financial crash

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the whole market down and I

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amount of money.

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I started like, investigating

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movie before.

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I know how it ends.

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Everything's gonna go down,

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understand the different

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from stocks to black bonds to everything.

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the, the bitcoin stock.

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only pleasure, but it's.

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understand the underlying

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going to be not for the

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your financial wealth and

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like Carolyn.

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That's that.

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I heard it then, but now I'm.

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All, let's see, Bitcoin and my

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Question number two is this.

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What's an insight or fact

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a stock that you can buy only

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of Bitcoin, tip your toe.

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You don't have to like, jump

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a roller coaster if you're not

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buy a full bitcoin, I think

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and try to dip their toes.

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much a bitcoin cost, there's

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up we have in Jackson,

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She came by to talk about

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one bitcoin was $84,000, she.

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if I'm putting $5 a week, I'll

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adds up over time.

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bitcoin long enough, you just

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talking to people who are not

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What's the bitcoin resource

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noise when it comes to where

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Though 84, don't worry about it.

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It's going to go to like, 30 million.

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You should buy, like, people

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It's called they heard about a

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and I think this is why I would.

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that went around the world

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and collapsed over time.

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civilizations that were there.

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it meets people where they are.

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helpful to you or your work recently?

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Hands down, AI.

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I think like Bitcoin is unstoppable.

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business so far to help us

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Just just try it, man.

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Why shouldn't you?

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decisions that we do, there is

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actually scary if you look.

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I would definitely go, why not?

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If there is something that we

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Why shouldn't we try it?

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Everyone likes free stuff.

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product or marketing collateral?

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So, Oliver, we're here Today

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Thank you very much.

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I'm born in Macedonia, spent

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in the automotive world, from

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multi billion dollar businesses.

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And it was fun.

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But when I discovered bitcoin,

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that there is a chance to

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the technology that is

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also most of the areas that we

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And I wanted to dedicate all

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to bring bitcoin to the masses.

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And the question is, how do we

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And I already alluded to it.

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I think, you know, when it

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different ways how you can

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There are some who are like

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Hey, hey, Josh, you should go, man.

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Hey, Bitcoin, it's the

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You should, you should invest.

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Should go.

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So this is the pushy part.

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And not all people react well

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Some do, some not.

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Then you have like the pool.

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I think Michael Saylor is an

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He's explaining bitcoin in

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way that people are kind of drawn.

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Oh, man, this is interesting.

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I wanna.

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Oh yeah.

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Why?

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I.

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I want to study about this.

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It sounds interesting.

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So I think this is like the

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Great.

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We're applying a third principle.

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We're just trying to meet

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I know how many people, you

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don't drink coffee or they

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So let's approach them there.

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And this is what we kind of

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say, on the water that you're drinking.

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Or maybe you have your

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a QR code on it or a protein

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of providing bitcoin rewards

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And along the process we do following.

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We give you everyone, by the

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right?

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So we know that there is

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is hoping for it.

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Oh, I have a reward.

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And it Says I can get up to

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Oh, that's great.

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I'm going to scan this, I'm

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In the process you get

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ask a server and like maybe a

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feedback at the time of consumption.

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Do you like the coffee?

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Do you like the water?

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What the business do?

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And in the process you also

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onboarded onto like onto the,

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ecosystem where you're on one

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who was a no coiner who just

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of let's say one and a half

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that you're able to self custody.

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And we'll walk you through the

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And then we did not approach

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buy bitcoin because it's great.

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We also did not promote, oh,

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it's going to keep your

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We actually approach you where

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You were drinking coffee in

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That's basically a business

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are trying to already working

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product that they want to kind

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what they call a digital layer.

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This water can be either cold

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but it's limited by its

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By adding a QR code and

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dimension.

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We had the dimension of

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we're trying to promote

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also make the products more

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for customers and on the other

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information.

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By scanning the QR code.

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Now we understand where the

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time, what frequency.

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They get real time feedback

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consuming the water.

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Not like three weeks after you

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Then you get an email like two

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Did you like if it's sparkly enough?

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You don't even remember.

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Now we have like real time

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excited, I.

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Think, you know, so I'm

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customer because one thing I

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showed is that it's on the

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So let's just say someone's

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farmer's market, wherever

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of whether or not they

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scan it.

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Is there an issue there?

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And then second of all, what's

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they scan it?

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Are they, do they get a beyond

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to another wallet?

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What is that like, perfect?

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No, it's a great question.

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So me coming from the Balkans,

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to figure out the way to come

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to pay for it.

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So.

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Sure.

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I think that's everywhere, by

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So this is just an example.

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We will most probably not put

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So there are different ways to

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One option is you have a

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that is inside.

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You pull out the sticker and

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So you basically have to buy

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within you have to open the

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able to claim the bitcoin.

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The second portion is, which I

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something like.

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I'll show you in a second.

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You basically, we cover the,

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up.

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So that you basically have to

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Yeah, and only after you've

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I mean it will be you damaging

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if you're scratching it off

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So that's why one option is

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product with a sticker.

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Another option is to integrate

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with some kind of a scratch off.

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A third option is for example,

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shrink sleeve and most water

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So if you put the QR code

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then you shrink it in the

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to again buy the product, rip

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you come to the.

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Only then you're able to

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Yeah, I don't know if this is

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I don't know all of the

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bottles and things like that.

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But I remember as a kid the

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up a Coke or.

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I forget what the best one was.

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I want to say it was like Dr.

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Pepper, Mountain Dew.

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Maybe it's Pepsi, but you'd

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For instance, if you open up

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And so I think something like

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bringing back some old school vibes.

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But either way, just having

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element to the customer experience.

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Now one other thing that I

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what happens whenever the

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Are they prompted to download

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This is assuming they don't

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What is that like so they can

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Because that's sometimes one

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up as well.

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Exactly.

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So there are like two reasons

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It's one is understanding

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And the second one is how do I

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So we try to simplify this and

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I'm going to walk through it

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We actually created a brief

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It's a video, let's see, just

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But basically here I'm going

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scanning it.

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This is like this bag.

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You scan it and the moment you

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name today is not Josh, but

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You have no laserized, so you

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You scan the QR code and see

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It says basically, okay, you

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We transfer this in how much

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understand what is the weight

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to, to claim it.

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I'm already signed up.

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Otherwise you will have like a

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your email or verify yourself

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And this very moment we

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to your, to your email or

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to us.

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So at this point we are

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And we walk you through the

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is why this coffee is great,

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single source and it's, you

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Then we ask you like a

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to provide some, some feedback.

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This is the process.

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You get some money for the

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and you at the consumption

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Maybe like one question, two

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And then basically you already

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we casted it for you, right?

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So that's like, we casted it

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the first one Minute of your

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We casted it for you but as

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And this is like how you can

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But as we know in Bitcoin you

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me.

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So that's why we teach you how

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And this is again going to our app.

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Like Joe Regular would just

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if you have a lightning wallet

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it otherwise you would press

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We'll kind of like briefly

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use.

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What's the lightning wallet?

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You download it from the app,

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I think I had in this example

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or scan it and in matter of

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you self custody the reward.

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So that's the process.

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We kind of like try to make it simple.

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And starting from a camera,

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also everyone has, walk them

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they self custody.

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Perfect.

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That's super, super clean.

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I feel like that's really easy

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Whenever they're ready, they

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But you take care of all the

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For those who are not able to

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the video, but I feel like you

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explaining as well.

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So what has been the

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given this a test drive in

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What's some of that feedback

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And also how has it helped

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get additional information

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customer loyalty?

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Perfect.

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No, it's.

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We've gotten very positive feedback.

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We've gotten very positive

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to like I would say marketing

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And if you have a physical

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like bitcoin rewards on it,

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If you have like two same

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and one is also good quality

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And you know that every time

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win up to hundreds of dollars

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to pick the one that is

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something extra.

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So that's like when it comes

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But we have done actually

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collateral for.

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For customers.

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Where a company, for example, Nihaudi.

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I don't know if you've nihaudi

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company.

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They are actually providing

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drugs.

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So they don't have a physical product.

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Their product is basically the service.

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So we work for them to create

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They look like poker chips and

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logo and if you flip the poker

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QR code that we would

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product.

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And they would just go to if

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and they will just give this

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And as people like oh, what's nihalti?

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So they're like, oh there is a

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Oh, and there is like a QR code.

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Oh, that is scanner.

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So people scan it, they go

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get educated about what

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and in return Niality has, you

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who are kind of like happy to

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got some bitcoin on them.

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They understand the business

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of like generates more

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And it's more than the

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conventional turnover that you have.

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If you just give out free

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hundreds of customers for sure.

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So who is your ideal customer

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Obviously anyone who has a

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00:30:10,203 --> 00:30:13,619
But I'm just thinking from

579
00:30:13,643 --> 00:30:17,257
people that are most valuable

580
00:30:18,147 --> 00:30:25,819
So for us we believe that we

581
00:30:25,923 --> 00:30:27,967
to two types of businesses.

582
00:30:28,387 --> 00:30:32,251
The first type are single

583
00:30:32,339 --> 00:30:35,323
So it means for example this

584
00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:38,091
not drink it over three days

585
00:30:38,179 --> 00:30:40,247
You probably drink it right away.

586
00:30:41,107 --> 00:30:46,213
Energy bar, I don't know,

587
00:30:46,245 --> 00:30:49,045
bag, you know, you, you

588
00:30:49,101 --> 00:30:50,229
you right away interact.

589
00:30:50,293 --> 00:30:55,541
So we kind of like are able

590
00:30:55,589 --> 00:30:57,973
get feedback at the time of consumption.

591
00:30:58,085 --> 00:31:02,549
So that's why any kind of

592
00:31:02,693 --> 00:31:08,677
protein bars, some kind of

593
00:31:08,757 --> 00:31:16,801
single up to multi time

594
00:31:16,929 --> 00:31:20,401
not only for the end customer

595
00:31:20,489 --> 00:31:24,129
as the customers are consuming

596
00:31:24,153 --> 00:31:28,689
like deduct the time of

597
00:31:28,753 --> 00:31:30,673
real time, you know, and this

598
00:31:30,705 --> 00:31:31,137
So this is.

599
00:31:31,177 --> 00:31:31,905
This is the one.

600
00:31:31,961 --> 00:31:35,265
I would say pillar, single to

601
00:31:35,441 --> 00:31:39,601
The second pillar is, I would

602
00:31:39,729 --> 00:31:43,339
So if you go, I know we have

603
00:31:43,363 --> 00:31:43,547
up.

604
00:31:43,587 --> 00:31:47,499
You know, Bitcoin 2025 is

605
00:31:47,523 --> 00:31:50,683
to try to figure something out

606
00:31:50,715 --> 00:31:54,987
You know, Bitcoin 2025 is

607
00:31:55,027 --> 00:31:58,219
and if you have some kind of

608
00:31:58,243 --> 00:32:03,339
a poker chip and it has

609
00:32:03,523 --> 00:32:08,919
I think that is going to put

610
00:32:08,943 --> 00:32:12,263
theme of bitcoin and like the

611
00:32:12,335 --> 00:32:15,687
So this kind of market b

612
00:32:15,847 --> 00:32:20,427
Where we so far have seen,

613
00:32:21,007 --> 00:32:25,639
I'm just thinking there's got

614
00:32:25,823 --> 00:32:28,887
that would be interested in

615
00:32:28,927 --> 00:32:32,151
I'm just thinking there's a

616
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:32,583
Indiana.

617
00:32:32,615 --> 00:32:35,391
They sell all sorts of

618
00:32:35,399 --> 00:32:35,615
that.

619
00:32:35,671 --> 00:32:37,039
I don't know of any bitcoiners there.

620
00:32:37,063 --> 00:32:39,935
But every time you purchase

621
00:32:39,951 --> 00:32:41,759
you obviously the package in

622
00:32:41,823 --> 00:32:45,599
But there's always some sort

623
00:32:45,663 --> 00:32:48,863
It's just, you know, probably

624
00:32:48,975 --> 00:32:49,679
It's nothing.

625
00:32:49,743 --> 00:32:50,111
Right.

626
00:32:50,199 --> 00:32:52,191
And it doesn't cost them

627
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,287
But it is very endearing.

628
00:32:54,367 --> 00:32:54,783
It's weird.

629
00:32:54,815 --> 00:32:57,391
Like I don't even eat the

630
00:32:57,479 --> 00:33:01,253
So something like that, you

631
00:33:01,325 --> 00:33:05,685
out there that have bitcoiners

632
00:33:05,741 --> 00:33:06,837
like this a try.

633
00:33:06,957 --> 00:33:07,733
It does.

634
00:33:07,885 --> 00:33:08,389
Maybe.

635
00:33:08,453 --> 00:33:12,149
Maybe someone gets a piece of

636
00:33:12,173 --> 00:33:13,317
you get some free bitcoin.

637
00:33:13,397 --> 00:33:14,565
They don't scan it.

638
00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:15,733
Nothing's been lost.

639
00:33:15,805 --> 00:33:16,277
Right.

640
00:33:16,397 --> 00:33:20,165
But it can also really help

641
00:33:20,261 --> 00:33:22,837
and maybe even get some good

642
00:33:22,877 --> 00:33:25,477
So there are people out there

643
00:33:25,517 --> 00:33:28,963
I don't necessarily know who

644
00:33:29,125 --> 00:33:31,703
like that will hear this

645
00:33:31,735 --> 00:33:34,279
because I think there's a lot

646
00:33:34,463 --> 00:33:36,067
Oh, thank you so much.

647
00:33:37,407 --> 00:33:38,631
100%.

648
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,247
I really believe this is why

649
00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:44,519
software app for the last nine months.

650
00:33:44,623 --> 00:33:49,479
We just basically launched a

651
00:33:49,503 --> 00:33:50,987
like, first customers.

652
00:33:51,407 --> 00:33:55,623
But on the point of the candy,

653
00:33:55,655 --> 00:33:55,895
about.

654
00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:57,303
I don't know if you can see this.

655
00:33:57,375 --> 00:33:59,395
This is actually a chocolate.

656
00:33:59,591 --> 00:34:04,699
So this is chocolate which is

657
00:34:04,723 --> 00:34:06,891
beyond the checkout is the

658
00:34:07,059 --> 00:34:09,327
And on the back you have the

659
00:34:09,667 --> 00:34:12,715
And if you unwrap the

660
00:34:12,771 --> 00:34:15,867
see it actually it's a bitcoin chocolate.

661
00:34:15,947 --> 00:34:17,115
So you open it.

662
00:34:17,251 --> 00:34:17,595
Okay.

663
00:34:17,611 --> 00:34:19,723
I don't know, you probably

664
00:34:19,755 --> 00:34:22,347
like it's even chocolate with

665
00:34:22,387 --> 00:34:26,219
So this is something also that

666
00:34:26,283 --> 00:34:31,931
companies where we can make

667
00:34:32,019 --> 00:34:36,459
or throw in a couple of this

668
00:34:36,523 --> 00:34:41,883
into whatever bag you're

669
00:34:41,915 --> 00:34:43,211
and interaction.

670
00:34:43,259 --> 00:34:47,259
Because people today, everyone

671
00:34:47,403 --> 00:34:52,571
So even if you have a physical

672
00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:55,691
somehow the digital layer on

673
00:34:55,779 --> 00:35:00,591
what we are providing, it adds

674
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,599
So if there's anyone, just

675
00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:05,667
Guys, we're beyond the checkout.

676
00:35:06,487 --> 00:35:06,959
Perfect.

677
00:35:07,023 --> 00:35:08,447
Well, let's go ahead and

678
00:35:08,487 --> 00:35:09,343
Do you have any final thoughts?

679
00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:14,015
I feel like that was a great

680
00:35:14,071 --> 00:35:15,247
and a call to action.

681
00:35:15,367 --> 00:35:17,391
Do you have any final thoughts

682
00:35:17,439 --> 00:35:20,927
as well as where people can go

683
00:35:20,967 --> 00:35:21,547
you?

684
00:35:21,927 --> 00:35:23,311
Thank you so much.

685
00:35:23,479 --> 00:35:27,313
Well, I probably have only two points.

686
00:35:27,385 --> 00:35:33,089
First of all, if you are not

687
00:35:33,113 --> 00:35:34,033
toes into it.

688
00:35:34,105 --> 00:35:36,369
It's the technology that's

689
00:35:36,393 --> 00:35:36,769
better.

690
00:35:36,873 --> 00:35:42,913
And the more people get it and

691
00:35:42,945 --> 00:35:45,697
going to help us all when it

692
00:35:45,817 --> 00:35:48,037
Our company is called beyond

693
00:35:48,617 --> 00:35:51,637
Our webpage is basically

694
00:35:52,077 --> 00:35:56,789
You can go there and like see,

695
00:35:56,893 --> 00:35:57,685
what we are doing.

696
00:35:57,741 --> 00:35:59,973
We're actually in the process

697
00:36:00,045 --> 00:36:03,269
If you're as excited for our

698
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:07,605
into physical products, we'll

699
00:36:07,661 --> 00:36:08,897
part of our company.

700
00:36:09,597 --> 00:36:15,173
If you go to timestamp, that's

701
00:36:15,205 --> 00:36:16,021
on timestamp.

702
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:21,017
Timestamp is an amazing

703
00:36:21,597 --> 00:36:25,461
We've talked to many different

704
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:32,997
Timestamp has been extremely

705
00:36:33,037 --> 00:36:35,637
support this process to get on board.

706
00:36:35,677 --> 00:36:36,773
That was amazing.

707
00:36:36,885 --> 00:36:38,037
And we're also there.

708
00:36:38,077 --> 00:36:43,685
We're raising our first pre

709
00:36:43,741 --> 00:36:48,587
there and you can be basically

710
00:36:49,087 --> 00:36:53,303
That's like the smallest tier

711
00:36:53,335 --> 00:36:55,347
but actually become part of

712
00:36:55,967 --> 00:36:56,551
Very cool.

713
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,639
So that will be on

714
00:36:59,663 --> 00:37:01,495
Oliver, thank you so much for

715
00:37:01,551 --> 00:37:02,663
It's been a pleasure.

716
00:37:02,855 --> 00:37:04,087
Thank you so much Josh.

717
00:37:04,167 --> 00:37:06,455
My pleasure and hope to talk

718
00:37:06,511 --> 00:37:07,383
Well friends, it's a wrap.

719
00:37:07,415 --> 00:37:10,759
Thanks so much for listening

720
00:37:10,823 --> 00:37:11,232
show.

721
00:37:11,334 --> 00:37:13,468
If you want to reach out to

722
00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:14,908
those links down in the show notes.

723
00:37:14,972 --> 00:37:17,420
And if you are selling a

724
00:37:17,428 --> 00:37:20,524
idea of bitcoin rewards,

725
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:24,396
keep building, keep growing

726
00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:24,596
Well.
