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Gold is not cutting it.

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incorruptible monetary system

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24.7liquidity.

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It has the best performance of

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Like, it's incredible, actually.

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Welcome to the Business

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The show dedicated to helping

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business with bitcoin, the

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I'm your host, Josh Friedeman,

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who's the founder of

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company that helps to onboard

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On today's interview, we're

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first steps they take to

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and how you can get started

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We're going to get to our

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this.

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Daniel, welcome to the podcast.

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Thank you so much, Dallas.

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It's a pleasure to be here.

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So I like to start off every

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that help us to get to know

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us some insight for our own lives.

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Are you ready for these?

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Question number one is this.

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When and how did you first

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Yeah, it's funny.

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I actually, I got into bitcoin

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boom and the whole crypto wild

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between bitcoin and crypto and

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my crypto.

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When the bear market came, all

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Question number two.

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What's an insight or fact

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understood?

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I wish more people outside of

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that Bitcoin is a technology

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or a coin or a stock, but it's

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and protocol that solves a

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how you kind of approach it.

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solves as a technology, how

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I mean, fundamentally it

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problem, the double spend

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way of explaining that Bitcoin

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power back to the people.

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extension, human corruption.

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very tempting to, to take

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Nobody controls it, and that's

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this world, maybe you could

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can be manipulated by someone,

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And this is why Bitcoin is so powerful.

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clients, but I just think it's

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I think it's truly beautiful.

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It's, it's a gift to humanity.

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It's the resource that got me

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would have been very different.

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that kind of signal was not

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That's what got me to take

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maybe didn't think knew what

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sure people have thought that

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bitcoin a little bit more seriously.

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people and a few people have

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some of the episodes, but I

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recommended it to has taken

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of a key for them.

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anthropology.

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sent me that out of the blue,

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over my head or just be a

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actually be the best beginner resource.

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Well, and that's the thing.

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The question is, what's the

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that helps get people from

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2 or 2 to 3 on the ladder.

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education.

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I forget his name.

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Slash.

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I've recently started using a

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really helping me in my work.

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It's called Monica Lives in my browser.

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summarize it, grab key points.

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I mean it's absolutely brilliant.

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Can highly recommend that.

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So many different answers to this.

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and what you're doing right now.

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Sovereign was really a kind of

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can be payments, it can be

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to then offer people the, the

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We have a great team now of

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Any kind of problem you have

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regulation, accounting, taxes,

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anything, our experts can help

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It's just getting started, but

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Joseph McGee and others that

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But I think the majority of

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going to happen in the US so

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And I was going to ask a

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get there, why do you think

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United States?

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Is it because of the new, the

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there's just other things afoot?

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As a general notion, I think

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in the world.

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I think China is doing great,

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a communist state.

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It's different.

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Well, now they're breaking out

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all that.

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But I think the US is always

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And then now with the Trump

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accounting rules coming in,

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so much headway.

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And when you then look at

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it's just a, it's.

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They, they try to provide

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they're also stifling the

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difficult for people to work here.

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So my eyes are focused on the.

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US and then I guess another

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Sure.

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Why do you think Europe is

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Like what is, is it, is it a

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Is it something else that I'm

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What is it about the, the

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bit different?

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I've heard people talk about

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to hear from someone who

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And sure, sometimes.

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Sometimes you look at it and

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Sometimes there are some positives.

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But I'd love to hear your

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different in Europe.

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Well, I appreciate you asking.

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I'm not sure I'm the right

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I think, especially the

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a lot of people here see it as

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tries to encroach more and

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Obviously, it's all done in

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And I think that might

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problem lies and this

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And I disagree with a lot of

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Obviously, they also do good,

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hey, we're doing this for your

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But that also means when SORA

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it's not available in Europe,

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or whatever.

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So it's.

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This regulation stifles

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of doing business, but it's

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But that fine line, I think

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And I think that power to

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it's very appealing to people

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They really like to control things.

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That's at least my opinion.

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I might be wrong on that.

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Sure.

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And do you feel like that's

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or is the majority kind of in

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And I asked that, realizing

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majority is.

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I mean, there's a lot of

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recent presidential election,

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fall?

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People have their opinions,

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So, you know, it's really hard

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But what's the vibe that you

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Yeah, it's a good question.

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I honestly, here in Denmark,

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talk that much about the eu.

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It's very interesting.

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It seems to be something

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background, whereas in the us,

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is obviously very interesting

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But.

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But it.

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Most people are not talking

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I don't think I've heard a

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about what the European

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affecting our economy, or

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it's.

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People don't really talk about it.

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That much because we have our

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and then we have this other

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these laws and rules and regulations.

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But it seems to be going on

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awareness.

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I don't know if that's, that's

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other people would have

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Sure, sure.

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Well, so the question I was

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you mentioned when clients

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do most businesses reach out

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stage where you need to be

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if they're interested in

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Yeah, very much the, the latter.

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I think we're still very early

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I had actually anticipated

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for the business adoption that

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I think it's a general life lesson.

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Things always just happen

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When you're on bitcoin

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man, if I don't smash buy

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tomorrow.

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Like we're, we're the, the

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But we are focusing all of our

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I think that's the most

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The people that are adopting

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they're the outliers.

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Meta, Planet Sembler, Microstrategy.

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These are all organizations

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and, and creative leaders.

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And I think they are the

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I think it's going to take a

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one kind of content.

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That's why we just came out

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We're going to make a bitcoin

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We're coming out with our

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Bitcoin.

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And I want to give that stuff

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That's really the key.

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And I would much rather give

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focus on the education.

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And then when people are

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and they feel comfortable with

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tools and resources for it.

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But it's also very complex to

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There's a lot of things you

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So working with an advisor and

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is a very, very good idea.

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I think it'd be good to talk

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need to be thinking about if

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and what some of those tools

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But I think maybe first of

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best pieces of education to

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to have to really help people

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bitcoin can bring to their business?

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Interesting, but very good question.

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I think every time I try to

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been doing the whole day

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in a story.

436
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I don't want to just hit

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I want to weave a story.

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And in my mind, it has to hit

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So if we take somebody that

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don't understand the value

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just hit them with wallets.

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Here's the cagr, here's why

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And all this.

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You gotta, you gotta start

445
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It sounds cliche, but you

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Why is bitcoin good money?

447
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Why is it the best form of

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And then you look at what is

449
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what does it actually mean?

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What are the returns, what's

451
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all these kind of things.

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And then you, you, you, you

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I think that's the key to look

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management, or a lot of small

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strategy, so to say.

456
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But, but you, you have to keep

457
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because if you keep it in

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Well, that was part of the explanation.

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You have to explain inflation.

460
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You have to explain what is

461
00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:46,687
Why is bitcoin hard money?

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Then you look at, okay, so you

463
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You're getting debased.

464
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Gold is not cutting it.

465
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Real estate is not what you

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Stocks, it's maybe outpacing

467
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But you can't just put all

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then you'll become an

469
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Bonds have negative real yields.

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Obviously, all this is much

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it to make you understand and

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actually look at this, okay?

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And if you're a larger

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back to the shareholders.

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00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:26,437
You can get dividends, you can

476
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You can, when you really

477
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You realize it's, it's.

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None of it makes any sense.

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It's not ideal.

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You're with any of these options.

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There's many flaws to it and

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And when you then present

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the, the alternatives, and

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open, incorruptible monetary

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supply 247 liquidity, it has

486
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It's a commodity, it's not a security.

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You don't have the management

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these kind of things that you

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And when you look at it from

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wow.

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Like, it's incredible actually.

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So they have all that education.

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You have some of those

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of, you know, multiple get togethers.

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But once they have that

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most popular questions that

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the particular actions of

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I think the biggest concern

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perception and the volatility

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It's not, it's not so much

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intricacies of it.

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It's.

503
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It's still this kind of low

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what is my customers gonna think?

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What about my shareholders?

506
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What if we invest and it

507
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tomorrow?

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It's all these really basic

509
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you said is great, but what

510
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I don't feel comfortable about that.

511
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Once you get over all of these

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much more practical things.

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But that's.

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That seems to always be the

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And every time you have a

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That's what people come with.

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We still need a lot of

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And then what are the tools

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far as the services and maybe

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I'm not thinking of that.

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If a business owner says,

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I'm ready to get started with this.

523
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What are some of the best

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owners, keeping in mind that

525
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given different contexts.

526
00:27:54,697 --> 00:27:56,609
Yeah, wonderful question.

527
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The way we've chosen to

528
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to be the best at everything

529
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in house.

530
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I would love to be able to say

531
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we'll store it for you.

532
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We'll do all these things, but

533
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We could try to do all these

534
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competing with people that

535
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that's their only focus.

536
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Sure.

537
00:28:26,231 --> 00:28:29,919
So the way we've chosen to do

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best companies and then pre

539
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clients to them.

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So I think that's part of the

541
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us is it's very difficult to

542
00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:44,943
in bitcoin.

543
00:28:45,055 --> 00:28:46,783
Especially if you just search

544
00:28:46,815 --> 00:28:51,199
It's all crypto blockchain web

545
00:28:51,223 --> 00:28:55,815
good signal is hidden below a

546
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and all that.

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00:28:56,575 --> 00:28:59,527
So when you're ready to pull

548
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We have relationships with the

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00:29:03,343 --> 00:29:05,027
they're all bitcoin only companies.

550
00:29:05,887 --> 00:29:08,327
That's a big part of the value

551
00:29:08,367 --> 00:29:09,667
We're bitcoin only.

552
00:29:09,967 --> 00:29:14,727
Back when I originally started

553
00:29:14,767 --> 00:29:17,785
you search for a bitcoin

554
00:29:17,911 --> 00:29:21,109
a lot of it is crypto

555
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people to go into the lion's

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00:29:25,837 --> 00:29:30,405
So to answer your question,

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also why we haven't just

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kind of task or service.

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00:29:37,533 --> 00:29:42,373
Because I think it would be a

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00:29:42,405 --> 00:29:45,061
just, just use these people,

561
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Because that's just not the case.

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00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:52,683
So you have to find a good

563
00:29:52,795 --> 00:29:57,819
We can always recommend river

564
00:29:57,883 --> 00:29:59,147
bitcoin only companies.

565
00:29:59,267 --> 00:30:02,555
And then it depends, do you

566
00:30:02,611 --> 00:30:04,011
just buy regularly?

567
00:30:04,059 --> 00:30:08,807
Do you need to buy large sums

568
00:30:09,507 --> 00:30:11,467
How are you going to custody it?

569
00:30:11,507 --> 00:30:14,047
Are you actually going to do

570
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And then which hardware

571
00:30:16,877 --> 00:30:19,653
Well we can educate you on

572
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on them, but maybe you're not

573
00:30:22,909 --> 00:30:23,813
outsource that.

574
00:30:23,885 --> 00:30:25,125
So what's that going to look like?

575
00:30:25,181 --> 00:30:29,285
Is that a on ramp situation

576
00:30:29,301 --> 00:30:30,257
you're looking at?

577
00:30:30,557 --> 00:30:35,397
Is it you do a two or three

578
00:30:35,437 --> 00:30:39,429
keys and they hold a third,

579
00:30:39,493 --> 00:30:42,699
and that's why you have to

580
00:30:42,723 --> 00:30:44,727
exactly what their situation is.

581
00:30:45,107 --> 00:30:46,363
It also depends.

582
00:30:46,395 --> 00:30:49,499
Are you just a barber shop

583
00:30:49,683 --> 00:30:52,203
Maybe you can survive with a

584
00:30:52,235 --> 00:30:54,763
You're the owner, you're the

585
00:30:54,875 --> 00:30:59,367
If you got a big company, you

586
00:30:59,827 --> 00:31:05,247
who has access to the keys,

587
00:31:05,747 --> 00:31:09,637
And it kind of, you can make

588
00:31:09,677 --> 00:31:11,749
get into the nitty gritty,

589
00:31:11,813 --> 00:31:14,389
And I would not even feel

590
00:31:14,413 --> 00:31:15,525
I'm an expert in that.

591
00:31:15,581 --> 00:31:18,837
And that's why we've hired

592
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,189
day and they're the best at that.

593
00:31:21,373 --> 00:31:23,893
So then I guess one final

594
00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:27,605
to know is with all that you

595
00:31:27,661 --> 00:31:28,805
any trends?

596
00:31:28,981 --> 00:31:33,459
Are there certain industries,

597
00:31:33,523 --> 00:31:37,443
interested in accepting

598
00:31:37,475 --> 00:31:38,207
from it?

599
00:31:38,827 --> 00:31:39,827
I wish I could.

600
00:31:39,867 --> 00:31:42,819
I wish I could tell you that

601
00:31:42,843 --> 00:31:43,075
find.

602
00:31:43,131 --> 00:31:49,059
I'm trying to find some, a red

603
00:31:49,163 --> 00:31:54,547
to like this industry, this

604
00:31:54,587 --> 00:31:57,043
demographic psycho traffic.

605
00:31:57,235 --> 00:32:00,419
I've not been able to find

606
00:32:00,483 --> 00:32:03,553
cracks that code, it's going

607
00:32:03,675 --> 00:32:06,165
We've also been doing

608
00:32:06,221 --> 00:32:10,697
and get conversations started,

609
00:32:12,317 --> 00:32:17,989
My hunch is that there are

610
00:32:18,093 --> 00:32:21,897
that already align well with

611
00:32:23,117 --> 00:32:26,021
People like farmers that are

612
00:32:26,109 --> 00:32:29,173
The idea of bitcoin and having

613
00:32:29,205 --> 00:32:32,073
stop and all that is very

614
00:32:32,205 --> 00:32:34,529
So I think we need more data

615
00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:36,465
But it's something I'm

616
00:32:36,521 --> 00:32:38,081
So I'm very curious about it.

617
00:32:38,249 --> 00:32:39,457
Yeah, for sure.

618
00:32:39,577 --> 00:32:42,241
Well, Daniel, are there any

619
00:32:42,329 --> 00:32:45,921
for the listeners today,

620
00:32:45,969 --> 00:32:47,717
or that you just want to reiterate?

621
00:32:49,177 --> 00:32:50,017
Great question.

622
00:32:50,137 --> 00:32:54,157
I mean, something I've been

623
00:32:54,457 --> 00:32:57,559
more bitcoin companies are not

624
00:32:57,673 --> 00:33:01,611
That's something I think is

625
00:33:01,659 --> 00:33:05,067
set out, part of what we want

626
00:33:05,107 --> 00:33:05,967
coiners.

627
00:33:06,467 --> 00:33:09,995
But I had the idea that

628
00:33:10,051 --> 00:33:12,379
the value proposition of

629
00:33:12,563 --> 00:33:15,995
But I think you'll find a lot

630
00:33:16,051 --> 00:33:18,427
hold one bitcoin on their

631
00:33:18,587 --> 00:33:22,459
And I think it's, it's very

632
00:33:22,483 --> 00:33:24,217
a lever for equity growth.

633
00:33:24,347 --> 00:33:28,813
And the main kind of argument

634
00:33:28,845 --> 00:33:30,893
it's risky, it's uncertain.

635
00:33:31,085 --> 00:33:35,181
But if your underlying

636
00:33:35,229 --> 00:33:40,701
to Bitcoin success, what other

637
00:33:40,749 --> 00:33:41,197
asset?

638
00:33:41,277 --> 00:33:46,157
If bitcoin hypothetically goes

639
00:33:46,197 --> 00:33:46,749
to zero.

640
00:33:46,853 --> 00:33:52,243
So I think a lot of people

641
00:33:52,315 --> 00:33:55,859
really think hard about that

642
00:33:55,923 --> 00:33:57,875
thing once you adopt Bitcoin,

643
00:33:57,931 --> 00:34:02,323
And I love seeing the spirit

644
00:34:02,395 --> 00:34:05,043
We see this with Semler and

645
00:34:05,115 --> 00:34:08,447
like, they just come alive and

646
00:34:08,827 --> 00:34:11,699
Or real Bedford or I could go

647
00:34:11,723 --> 00:34:15,043
It just brings a whole new

648
00:34:15,075 --> 00:34:15,647
that.

649
00:34:16,107 --> 00:34:16,691
Excellent.

650
00:34:16,739 --> 00:34:18,627
Well, Dale, where can people go?

651
00:34:18,667 --> 00:34:21,169
They want to find out more

652
00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:24,881
know of a business who might

653
00:34:24,929 --> 00:34:28,513
them with the right people, or

654
00:34:28,545 --> 00:34:31,169
to this today, have said, hey,

655
00:34:31,193 --> 00:34:32,077
step for me.

656
00:34:33,417 --> 00:34:35,745
Everybody can go to Sovereign IO.

657
00:34:35,841 --> 00:34:38,481
They can find us on all of our

658
00:34:38,529 --> 00:34:39,329
We're everywhere.

659
00:34:39,393 --> 00:34:41,677
They can find me, Daniel

660
00:34:42,217 --> 00:34:45,905
We're aggressively giving away

661
00:34:45,961 --> 00:34:46,273
need.

662
00:34:46,345 --> 00:34:50,961
We're also trying to build up

663
00:34:51,009 --> 00:34:53,841
a lot of people know business

664
00:34:54,009 --> 00:34:59,793
So I want to make it as easy

665
00:34:59,825 --> 00:35:00,797
hole as possible.

666
00:35:01,257 --> 00:35:04,225
So one of the things that I'm

667
00:35:04,321 --> 00:35:07,877
is what I call Project Orange

668
00:35:08,297 --> 00:35:13,729
So you get a resource and it

669
00:35:13,793 --> 00:35:17,729
resources for an owner, a

670
00:35:17,833 --> 00:35:21,147
So if you're an employee and

671
00:35:21,187 --> 00:35:23,019
just explain this to my boss.

672
00:35:23,083 --> 00:35:23,915
Well, grab that.

673
00:35:23,971 --> 00:35:25,607
Give that to them for free.

674
00:35:25,987 --> 00:35:28,955
If you have a friend, a

675
00:35:29,011 --> 00:35:31,931
and they want to get involved,

676
00:35:31,939 --> 00:35:33,419
you a nice commission for that.

677
00:35:33,523 --> 00:35:38,447
Everybody wins and we keep

678
00:35:39,507 --> 00:35:40,091
Excellent.

679
00:35:40,139 --> 00:35:42,139
Well, Daniel, thank you so

680
00:35:42,163 --> 00:35:43,019
the great work you're doing.

681
00:35:43,043 --> 00:35:44,127
It's been a pleasure.

682
00:35:44,627 --> 00:35:45,819
Thank you so much for having me.

683
00:35:45,843 --> 00:35:46,091
Josh.

684
00:35:46,139 --> 00:35:48,555
It was a pleasure being here

685
00:35:48,611 --> 00:35:49,283
It's.

686
00:35:49,435 --> 00:35:50,579
Yeah, it's very enjoyable.

687
00:35:50,643 --> 00:35:51,683
Thank you so much.

688
00:35:51,835 --> 00:35:52,803
Well friends, it's a wrap.

689
00:35:52,835 --> 00:35:53,987
Thanks so much for listening

690
00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:56,851
Episode of the Business

691
00:35:56,939 --> 00:35:59,059
If you want to reach out to

692
00:35:59,083 --> 00:36:00,259
those links down in the show.

693
00:36:00,283 --> 00:36:02,867
Notes if you know of someone

694
00:36:02,947 --> 00:36:06,211
Bitcoin for their business,

695
00:36:06,299 --> 00:36:09,411
keep building, keep growing,

696
00:36:09,539 --> 00:36:10,835
and leading.

697
00:36:10,931 --> 00:36:11,567
Well.

698
00:36:17,077 --> 00:36:19,629
Thanks to those who have

699
00:36:19,653 --> 00:36:23,981
the last week, including

700
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:26,493
about the episode with

701
00:36:26,525 --> 00:36:30,381
He said thanks for the AI info

702
00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:32,989
integration for Data Insight Now.

703
00:36:33,093 --> 00:36:35,661
Christopher brought up the

704
00:36:35,709 --> 00:36:36,605
AI tools.

705
00:36:36,701 --> 00:36:41,501
It showed up in Venice AI with

706
00:36:41,629 --> 00:36:45,839
It just doesn't make sense to

707
00:36:45,903 --> 00:36:49,279
service to we'll be looking

708
00:36:49,343 --> 00:36:53,071
Thanks Bruce Bitcoin and for

709
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,447
Morton of Alpaca Retail

710
00:36:56,527 --> 00:36:58,399
If you're interested in

711
00:36:58,423 --> 00:37:03,727
alpacarms.com or Alpaca RMS

712
00:37:03,847 --> 00:37:05,839
And of course if you would

713
00:37:05,863 --> 00:37:09,023
listen on Fountain and either

714
00:37:09,055 --> 00:37:09,343
a boost.

715
00:37:09,375 --> 00:37:12,159
And if you include a comment

716
00:37:12,183 --> 00:37:12,727
it on the show.
