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Dr. Amad Amus, welcome to the show.
Thanks, Marty. Thank you for having me.
Like I was saying, this is going to be a good follow up to the previous episode with Jessica Rose and Kevin McKernan.
We really talked about the corruption of the peer review system within medicine, which is just one area of it.
you're a practicing doctor and you've been writing a lot and talking a lot about fiat medicine. So I
think maybe we'll just start there, jump right into it. Fiat medicine, it's your term for what
you think is wrong. With healthcare, let's just walk through the thesis. How does fiat money
specifically corrupt medicine at the root level? And where do you see it most visibly day to day?
Yeah.
So thanks for the introduction.
Medicine, the way it is right now, is not how medicine was practiced 100 years ago.
Things are very different.
And things are different in a bad way, in a monopolistic way, where pharmaceutical companies have taken over the practice of medicine.
And this was not possible without big government, without the Federal Reserve that is funding all of this and allowing certain institutions to take over medicine and dictate how doctors get to practice.
and so all of these problems started in the early 1900s so in 1903 the American Medical Association
was formed and the purpose of the American Medical Association was to standardize the practice of
medicine which sounds great on paper that you know oh we want all doctors to practice the same way so
that there are no snake oil salesmen that everyone's up to up to a certain expectation
But what actually happened is only pharmaceutical medicine was allowed to prosper.
Only medical schools teaching pharmaceutical medicine were allowed to continue their practice.
And everything else was shut down.
And this is why we live in a current state where all other healing modalities are suppressed.
And the only cure for anything is a pill.
And I saw you were tweeting earlier today or earlier this week, prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the United States these days.
Correct. I mean, this is like this is such a crazy statistic that, you know, if if we live in actually a honest world, everyone would be jumping on this and trying to figure out why.
But this is like medications prescribed the way they should be prescribed are absolutely lethal.
They lead to side effects.
They lead to dysfunction in the body.
They lead you in order to need other medications.
And then these medications interact with each other.
And, you know, so many of the problems that I see with patients are simply because of the medications that they're taking.
And it's just pharmaceutical companies have such a huge propaganda and huge control over this entire field that nobody discusses this.
Can you talk about some hard examples of the side effects really?
Yeah, so I mean, the most prescribed medication in history are statins or cholesterol-lowering medications.
And these are absolutely detrimental to the body because cholesterol is essential for all important functions in the body.
So cholesterol is an essential fat that's needed to regenerate your cell membranes, regenerate your neurons in your brains, make hormones.
It's needed for the immune system function.
And this medication drops cholesterol levels significantly, leading to disastrous consequences throughout the body.
So the way it's done is studies looking at statins only follow patients for five years maximum.
Some of them are done for even just only months.
They see that it lowers the cholesterol level and that necessarily, okay, so that is good for your heart and the product goes on the market.
But if someone gets a disease, often serious ones, 10 years from now, nobody connects it to the statin.
because there's no profit there.
Honest researchers that make these connections
and put that data out there,
their material is not getting published.
Journals are not going to accept their papers.
And that's because all these journals are funded
by the pharmaceutical industry.
Yeah, go listen.
No, you and I, but anybody listening to this
should go listen to the episode with Jessica and Kevin
because we dove deep into that pub peer and just the whole research complex
and how it actually works, peer review and all of that.
It's completely politicized and corrupted with money.
But I think let's take a trip down memory lane and just talk about the history of this
because this has been building for, I think, over a century.
And you talk a lot about the Flexner Report and Rockefeller's influence specifically.
what's the five minute sort of overview of that seed that was planted over a century ago?
Yeah. So, you know, when you, the definition of a doctor back in the 1800s was there are many kinds
of doctors. So there were what we call allopathic doctors, which is the tradition, which is the
mainstream now Western sort of medicine, which works on suppressing symptoms, suppressing works
on mostly getting rid of symptoms.
That's how things are treated.
But there are also other healing modalities
that actually have a much longer history
of being practiced all over the world.
This includes homeopathy,
which aims to treat things naturally,
aim to understand the symptoms
and give a treatment that's complementary to that to help the body recover on its own.
Also, osteopaths and chiropractors were much more respected back then.
And there were also naturopaths, which aim to heal people using just natural remedies, herbal remedies.
So back then, someone who got sick would go to any one of these doctors.
You had the choice.
If you thought that Western medicine was better for you, if you thought the pill was better for you,
you could go and do that. Then in 1903, the American Medical Association was formed in order
to standardize the practice of medicine. And then in 1910, they hired someone by the name of Abraham
Flexner, who wasn't really a doctor, but they hired them to the task of, we need to revamp and
improve all of medical education in the U.S.
So Flexner went around the entire country looking at medical schools, and he eventually
decided that all medical schools that are not teaching pharmaceutical-based medicine
need to be shut down.
So all of these naturopathic medical school, osteopathic medical schools, all of these
were shut down.
So more than 60% of U.S. medical schools were shut down in the early 1900s.
Flexner had strong ties to the pharmaceutical industry, and he was heavily funded also by the Rockefeller Foundation, where the Rockefeller Foundation also had heavy—
Rockefeller's pharmaceutical products were used, were turned into pharmaceutical drugs.
So there was a lot of benefit for them to push everyone to be on pills.
Whether Rockefeller himself was aware of this is not clear because basically at a certain point, his foundation was just based on money he has given before and other people were running it.
So I don't want to throw Rockefeller under the train, but definitely his foundation had a huge part to play in this.
And so 60% of U.S. medical schools were shut down.
Only doctors practicing pushing pills were allowed to prosper.
And this is the disastrous system that we live in right now, where nobody looks at lifestyle.
Nobody looks at natural treatments.
Nobody looks at natural things that have been used for hundreds of years.
The only cure is just a pill.
Yeah, I've experienced, well, we have experienced this in our family.
I mean, I've always been skeptical of the medical industrial complex, but post COVID,
my wife, her skepticism increased significantly as well.
And I mean, I feel fine sharing this.
I know she's comfortable sharing it because I think we've talked to many other couples
who've had troubles, but we had trouble conceiving our third child between after our second.
And she went to doctors, went to push pills and do some injections and stuff.
And she sort of faded that.
And we went the naturopathy way.
And after about six months of really fixing her diet and focusing on some herbal needs,
we were able to conceive and have our third child.
And something we experienced firsthand, this stuff does work.
100%.
And there's just hundreds and hundreds of years of knowledge about all these things.
And overnight with the Flexner report, all of that was suppressed.
And currently, you know, anyone who discusses natural ways of treatment is just simply labeled as a quack.
And we've lost all of that knowledge, unfortunately.
And it's really, really frustrating for me because I've worked so hard to become a doctor and I studied so long.
I did 11 years of training in order to become a doctor.
And I had to start from scratch to learn all these things.
And I mean, this is pretty well known now, but it's, you look at the way that doctors are taught through the university system in the curriculum that's put before them. And nutrition is basically an overthought, an afterthought. You maybe have one class on it and it's not even really taken seriously.
But this whole idea of preventative health care, particularly via good nutrition, is completely overlooked.
It's all pills and remedies, synthetic remedies.
Yeah, I had 40 minutes, one lecture that's 40 minutes long of nutritional education my entire medical career.
And it was actually only, they just taught us how to dose insulin based on what patients ate.
that's all the nutritional education that i uh that i've ever gotten and now having
re-educated yourself how how much nutritional curriculum would you recommend for doctors like
how important is is that aspect of of health it's it's extremely important and uh it's it's
it's quite crazy to live in a world where doctors are tend to be some of the unhealthiest people you
meet. And I have firsthand experience with this because I see them every day, my fellow physicians,
and they just live in a plane where your daily choices don't matter. You know, disease is this
thing that comes on you because of genetics, because of luck. And if you get sick, then you
need pills. There's nothing you can do to prevent it. And your daily choices just don't matter.
And this is the fundamental issue that needs to be addressed with any medical education that's going to be successful, which is lifestyle matters.
Your day-to-day choices matter.
And, you know, my coworkers think that I'm just crazy because I think about these things.
They still haven't realized that, no, no, this is what actually works.
And they're just so completely brainwashed by the system that they have no realization
about how important this stuff is.
No.
And I guess let dive deeper into the incentives too because I think somebody in the turn of the 20th century 1900
were to see what the healthcare system looked like today,
they'd be completely petrified at the state of healthcare.
And hopefully, conversely, we can look back 50, 100 years,
we can be in 2075, 2100, and look back and recognize like,
that anomalous period between 1913 and the mid 21st century was completely insane.
And I think both people in the past and in the future will look at the financial incentives
and the corruption that money has introduced to the medical system specifically
and pinpoint that as the core problem at the root of this issue
is just the monetary incentives that exist to push bills.
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Both are centralized.
Both are aimed to just control people.
And it's not a coincidence that they happened at the same time.
And you could argue that probably the hijacking of the medical system is ultimately the strongest way they were able to control people.
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I think it's important too to highlight just how centralized it is because we're focusing on Big Pharma,
but there's multiple sort of players in this realm of centralized medicine.
and obviously a big pharma with the incentive to get the pills pushed because they're going to make
a ton of money. But now you have the hospital systems, which are becoming highly centralized,
and then paired with the hospital systems, you have big insurance, and then paired with big
insurance, now you have the federal government stepping in, or at least for the last 12 years,
with Obamacare, the American Care Act, here in the United States specifically, and they all
sort of have this symbiotic relationship where they're all trying to basically grift and make
things as expensive and least effective as possible so they can increase their bottom line.
Yes. And probably, I mean, the most centralized aspect about this is the issue of medical
guidelines. So, you know, a physician nowadays can't just go and practice medicine the way they
like. So, you know, there's a lot of information out there about what's the best thing to do for
a patient. So certain societies started forming, let's say the American College of Cardiology
or the American Family Physicians Association, et cetera, to try and create guidelines or
just easier summaries for physicians to follow. And which sounds great on paper, you know,
we're just going to simplify it so that not every physician has to read every paper out there.
There's actually an estimate that in primary care alone, around 1,500 papers a day are published.
So it's impossible for a physician to just read all of these every day.
And so these guidelines were written there to kind of streamline the process.
but what is the crazy thing about this is all these societies that write the guidelines are
heavily funded by pharmaceutical industry it'd be a society of like nine doctors and eight of them
would have ties to pharmaceutical industry they pay them to go to on vacation they give them
research grants they uh they give them gifts frequently and so all of these guidelines are
of course favored to certain medications and usually expensive medications rather than
generics that can be cheaper and help people save.
And then these guidelines are actually used to go after physicians.
So if you're not following the guidelines, if you are not following what the pharmaceutical
company wants you to do, you're at risk of losing your license.
you are medically liable if you practice something that wasn't following the guidelines
you're at risk of going to jail so say say someone has high cholesterol and I believe that high
cholesterol is not bad high cholesterol is actually good for you if I don't put them on a statin
and they get a heart attack which high cholesterol is not a link to heart attacks
I am legally liable if they get that heart attack
however if I do put them on statins
and the statins themselves
actually increase inflammation in the body
and could lead to heart attacks
and they do get a heart attack
then I'm not legally liable
because I follow the guidelines
so it's absolutely insane
it's just completely captured
and nobody can see past this insanity
without
if you dare speak against this
you're going to be ostracized
you're going to be called a quack
and you're just not going to be heard.
You're not going to get published.
And that's how the system maintains itself.
Yeah, I think there's a massive cognitive dissonance problem
within the medical industry.
A lot of people are making a lot of money
and they've spent a lot of time.
There's also a sunk cost fallacy
where you spend a lot of time and money on your education
and your residency and your career.
And you don't want to believe that you went through this system
that is not what you believe it is actually at the end of the day.
But with that being said, again, post-COVID,
I do think there has been somewhat of an awakening within the medical field.
At least I've had a number of doctors that have come on the show
that have left the sort of centralized medical system,
started their own direct primary care practices and marketing.
Like, hey, I'm not part of this system.
I'm going direct to the patient.
Are you optimistic that there are more people within your field beginning to recognize this and sort of branch off and try to do things different way?
Yeah. I mean, every physician knows that something's wrong.
You know, they're working hard.
They're trying to get people healthy, but nothing's working.
And people just keep getting sicker.
And the system's overburdened, that everybody's overworked.
Everybody knows that.
What is causing it?
Very, very few people are starting to realize this.
But I think more and more people are starting to.
So it is promising.
And we are grateful that there's an internet where you can just post random things and you can learn so much by just going online.
And it's really helping a lot of people.
Yeah.
And you mentioned there the system is sort of overburdened right now.
I think a big driver of that is the insurance industry and this push towards universal free health care.
And I think this ties back to sort of money corrupting it.
You need price signals in a market.
And this idea of universal health care, while it sounds good on paper, if you're a fifth grader or an ignorant adult who doesn't understand economics,
and people really play to the heartstrings
and the empathetic side of individuals
not realizing that, hey, medicine
and the service that doctors offer
is a service that should be priced
and there should be pricing signals in the market
and this push for universal healthcare
is completely corrupting that price signal
and therefore overburning the system
because priorities aren't able to be able,
the opportunity cost doesn't exist. And so you don't know what to actually focus on.
Yeah, 100%. I mean, an example I like to illustrate so that people understand this is
if a random 70-year-old's knees start to hurt him, it's fine. He could run it off. He could
take some pain medications and rest for a week, and then it'll be fine. It's quite different than
if LeBron James' knee starts to hurt him. So there's no such thing as healthcare for everyone.
It all depends on the context.
It all depends on what do you want out of your knee?
What do you want out of your eyes?
What do you want out of your back?
And so who gets to decide whether the 70-year-old whose knee hurt them,
should they get an MRI for their knee?
If you leave it up to the 70-year-old, of course he wants an MRI of his knee
because it's free.
LeBron James, his knee means a lot to him.
he's willing to pay for an e-MRI.
Because it's just a wide spectrum of how much you can investigate everything
and how much workup you're going to do for everything and how much treatment.
The only way to give universal health care is to just have a lot of governing bodies
that are deciding, oh, does this patient deserve an MRI or not?
Does the 70-year-old deserve an MRI or should we prioritize it to LeBron James instead?
And once you do that, then you have an entire industry that's just there as a third party.
They're just trying to decide, allocate resources to allocate healthcare resources.
And this is how you end up with Canada, where you have to work.
We have to wait for nine months in order to get an MRI.
System is just, you know, it has to go to someone who's going to approve it.
And then you're going to have to wait in line.
And it's just once you separate the price signals, when you separate it from the free market, there's no way that that's going to work.
Then you're just this is just communism.
And so do you think the solution to this is more doctors breaking off to this direct primary care?
Because that's what we've been using in my family.
We've opted out of health insurance.
We use CrowdHealth and then we supplement that with direct primary care doctors.
And I find that the experiences are superior than sort of insurance networks of hospitals and pediatricians and physicians that you're thrown into.
A hundred percent. I mean, we doctors are human beings.
If you are interacting with people and offering services that want them that and you want to encourage them to come back so that they bring you more money, then the services we offer are going to be a lot better.
Working in a system where everyone is insured and you're going to have to give everything to anyone, there's just no incentive for us to perform better.
and
you know that's why doctors are burnt out
there's no incentive
they are
they're just working
you know working a 9 to 5
they don't really care about their patients
their pay is not
is not affected
by how they treat their patients
but all of the
all doctors that have branched out of this system
are so much happier
and their patients are so much happier
do you
So what are the long term?
Do you think the medical system will get fixed internally basically have people recognize like oh we need to decentralize this or do you think it be market forces like do you think a bitcoin standard
is needed to fix the system from scratch yeah i think i think the system the way it is right now
is going to collapse uh how bad it's going to get before it collapses like are people going to be
dying outside of hospitals because there are no empty beds?
Or are hospitals going to run out of equipment, basic equipment to treat people?
It's certainly possible.
How hospitals are right now, that's kind of the direction we're heading.
So there is no hospital in the U.S. right now that's not on overcapacity.
There are people in the hallways.
People wait in the emergency room for two days before they get a bed upstairs.
You wait 20 hours before being seen in the emergency room.
So these are all just indications of imminent collapse.
Whether the system understands that it needs to go back to a free market standard before it collapses, hopefully that happens.
And it also depends on how soon the entire world is just going to shift to a Bitcoin standard and we get rid of all this mess.
a little tangential but i think it's all connected and i've talked to your brother
about this too because it is crazy if you just look at a hospital like the architecture of it
the the physical landscape of it the fluorescent lights the beeping noises they're i mean you spend
a lot of time in these places i imagine they're not really uh they don't really engender a sense
of inspiration or very sterile and uninspiring and not a place that you want to be.
Whereas hospitals used to be these like grand buildings with tall windows, natural lights,
and how much of the physical landscape of the modern hospital has been corrupted by
this too?
And is the form factor of a hospital this day detrimental to people's health?
Yeah, I mean, hospitals are probably the most toxic place to be in currently in the world.
Like you are better off if you can just heal yourself by staying in your bed, you're probably better off fighting this, whatever you have, than going to the hospital.
If it's not serious enough that you actually need what's in the hospital.
I always say like for my older patients, it's one thing for them to get over like whatever infection they're going through or whatever health condition.
It's another thing for them to to survive the hospital stay because you're under fake light.
You're not getting any care or attention because all the nurses are overworked.
All the doctors are overworked.
The food is toxic.
it's beeping you can't sleep well it's it's really there's a term called delirium which is
basically confusion that happens with other people and it's because you know they go to this place
when they're sick and they can't sleep and the fake lights are on all night so they don't they
they lose their circadian rhythm they don't know when it's day or when it's night and they end up
just confused and delirious and your risk.
There's a lot of people that die because of this,
because the body just has no connection to reality anymore.
And it's, it's really scary. And, uh,
yeah, hospitals are a toxic place.
Do you think we need to rebuild them from scratch? Like what, what,
And what would if you were handed a handed a fascist authority over the hospital system, you were able to rebuild the physical buildings where we're sending people when they get sick, what would they look like?
I mean, yeah, again, the entire why hospitals are so toxic is because nobody in the medical field thinks that the food that you eat or the lights that you're under or, you know, the quality of your sleep is going to affect the way you heal.
You know, it's just if we give you these meds, things will magically improve and you'll get out of here and things will be magical.
That's what textbooks teach you.
That's what pharmaceutical industry wants you to believe.
once we get to the point where we realize that all of these things are very important then yes
you don't want it to be filled with blue fluorescent light all the time have natural
lights in from windows use incandescent bulbs minimize artificial light that's also good that's
all good minimize the devices so all these patients they're hooked on to like heart monitors
when they come in.
And this is all just, you know,
emitting electromagnetic frequencies
directly into their bodies
the moment they walk in.
That's also not great.
And then the food, you know,
they're given like typical
American cafeteria food,
you know, chicken fingers and fries.
And the goal is to, you know,
minimize the cost of how much
this meal costs the hospital.
But it's toxic to this patient.
And it's all heart healthy.
So they use vegetable seed oils and it's all low fat dairy and low fat meat.
And, and it's, it's insane.
It's insane.
It's funny.
And it wasn't like that because my mom and my aunts and my mother-in-law, my wife and
I, we were born in the same hospital, um, late eighties, early nineties.
And our moms talk fondly about the, uh, the steak dinners they were given steak and lobster
after, uh, after they gave birth to us.
And it was like, oh, you guys are getting steak and lobster.
we got like OJ and like a little plastic cup and some chicken fingers,
like in French fries.
I was like for all three of our childbirths,
I would just leave the hospital and go find good,
healthy food and bring it back.
It wasn't even worth taking the slop that they were offering.
Yeah.
It's,
uh,
it's bullshit and it's bad for you.
Well,
you mentioned light too.
That's another thing.
So again,
again,
post COVID my wife is really,
leaned into the natural solution.
So she's changed all the light bulbs in our house to incandescent.
And I think it's definitely had an effect on particularly like the boys, our sons.
Like you can notice that they're much calmer because they're not subjected to these LED
flashing lights all the time.
Like talking about preventative care, obviously diet is heavy, but heavy focus.
but how much is like natural light and avoiding LED, fluorescent lighting,
and other things, just getting out, walk, exercise generally.
Yeah, it's 100%.
It's so important.
And some people argue that the light is even more important than the diet.
A good way to understand this is in the cell itself,
This is not a very, very known theory.
It's not very well known.
But the reality is in your cells, you don't actually directly use food to make energy.
You actually use light to make energy.
Food you use in order to regenerate the cells.
So make cell membranes, make channels, make proteins and fats in order to regenerate your body.
But how your cell is actually powered is from the light that you're exposed to.
This includes visible and invisible light.
So lights work on your cells, work on this molecule called melanin, which is light sensitive.
And melanin splits water, creating an electric current.
And this is the electric current that powers your entire body.
The problem with blue LED bulbs, which only started in the 21st century, is that they only emit a very narrow spectrum of light that does not allow this process to happen efficiently.
So you're not splitting water efficiently.
You're not powering your cells the way you should.
And this could be the reason why we all, the explosion of disease that we've seen over the last 20 years.
Because we are all living under fake artificial light.
We don't go out as much.
And we're all definitely sun deficient.
It is crazy to think that.
It's even crazier to think about the Biden administration trying to ban incandescent lights because it hurts the climate.
Exactly.
the climate we got to worry about the climate so we can't use good lights and how i mean putting the
tinfoil hat on like how much of that is pure virtue signaling for the climate versus they know
that they are going to sort of disrupt the sort of natural health of of individuals and by extension
their psychology make them more manic and depressed and more impressionable is there
nefarious intentions behind it or is it simply just LARPing for the environment?
I haven't read the direct data on this, but I follow Dr. Jack Cruz intensely. He is very well
versed with this topic. And he says that DARPA basically has data that shows that blue light
is able to control people by destroying their dopamine levels. And that's why blue light is
just become prevalent everywhere.
And I don't know what the intentions are.
Dr. Cruz argues that it's definitely preconceived and it's definitely intentional.
I know what the repercussions are and the repercussions are pretty bad.
Speaking of repercussions too, it seems like at least the mainstream medicine and now even
in the tech sector or in the silicon valley the solutions to the systemic health issues that
exist in the united states and broadly in other parts of the world is to create these synthetic
drugs that um that really help you get back to a better state that glp1s i think being
the most popular over the last um the last few years so zembic goby and others like them
uh mangero what what do you what do you think of this this trend this like oh we can just
manufacture health these glp ones and peptides again it's just faulty faulty thing thinking of
this is like the the complete fiat way of thinking about health which is health comes from something
outside of me. Health is just, if I accumulate the correct series of pills, peptides, vitamins,
then that's going to give me health. And it's just a completely fiat idea that's only started
in the 20th century. It's the same as people thinking that inflation is necessary. It's that
systemic. It's just completely false. And everything built on top of it is false.
the reality is health starts from your daily choices every every everything you're eating
the light you're exposed to every how you move these this is what makes you healthy and this is
what people need to be putting all this effort on problem is is that we live in a fiat world where
everybody has such a high time preference that nobody is willing to look into the future look
into things that take some time to give them some benefit. So nobody's looking into their lifestyle.
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that uh he's getting very popular right now and again i don't want to come off like um
pompous or anything it's like hey you were advocating for people to get the vaccine you
got it yourself uh the covid vaccine specifically and that was another so the covid vaccine i was
immediately skeptical because of operation warp speeds they're like hey we're going to get this
vaccine out in nine months and everything up until that point that I've learned about vaccines and
the safety of vaccines was like they need to be tested for more than a decade before you can
deploy them to to the masses and when they were like oh we're gonna get this in nine months was
immediately like okay based off of everything I've learned about vaccine safety up until this point
in my life it just completely flies in the face of what we're supposed to be doing so I'm gonna
avoid it um then you have others that didn't and we're not only didn't avoid it but we're
championing it and going further in some cases and saying that you were a monster if you didn't
get it yourself uh because you were protecting your fellow citizen uh and we're quickly learning
a few years later that there are pretty terrible side effects to this increases in excess deaths
turbo cancers uh heart issues um and similarly glp1s and i think early data is showing that
there's problems with this too like we don't know how this is gonna to your point about high time
preference very high and high preference particularly because we don't have enough
data to know what the long-term ramifications of this going back to what you were saying earlier
about statins it's pretty clear to me that we can see something very similar play out with glp1s
in terms of the long-term effect on individual health.
Yeah, the pharmaceutical industry is not interested in the long-term consequences.
This is just, it's up to you to deal with them.
And it's the biggest scam how these drugs are allowed into the market without intensive testing.
And the people who are approving these drugs, people that work in the FDA, they're known that once they quit their FDA jobs, they get very expensive, very well-paying jobs in these pharmaceutical companies.
And there's a revolving door between the FDA and pharmaceutical companies.
So you can't trust the people whose job is to determine the safety of these drugs.
the classic leftist argument is that what we need to do is oh we need just stronger government
that's not corrupt and we need people to you know we need to make sure that the centralized
authority is has no relationship with pharma etc that is just you're just adding more power to the
government and therefore you're making them a more lucrative target for corruption what actually
needs to happen is we remove all the suppression of alternative medicine so that anyone who has
a solution that they think works can put it out there and let the free market come up with ways
to test these medications. So it doesn't have to be the FDA that approves them. What if there are
private societies that start to run experiments on these drugs? And if you are interested in taking
at GLP-1, you will probably be willing to pay some money to this private society to test it for
you before. And you know that this society is not biased. They are not government employees.
You know that they're not corrupt. And they have to put their financial ties out there.
There are so many ways we can just optimize the system
by having government get their hands off it.
And this is what hopefully life on a Bitcoin standard would look like.
And the future is exciting once we get to that point.
Yeah. I mean, you think of Scott Gottlieb going from the FDA to the board of Pfizer.
Then he's on CNBC and all the talking head shows really pushing it and advocating.
He literally went from the FDA to he was Pfizer's representative on a bunch of these talking head shows and very few people, obviously yourself, myself and others that are like minded.
We're like, this is an obvious conflict of interest here.
Like, how is this even possible?
But it is the status quo of how this revolving door works.
The entire Purdue Pharma and OxyContin and what led to the opioid epidemic in the US, which has killed up for 200,000 people at least.
All of this, the drug was approved by one person in the FDA who, after he finished his role in the FDA, got a job at Purdue Pharma where he was getting around $350,000 a year.
this entire thing was just because this someone made a few million dollars.
That's it.
This is how powerful, how easily corruptible the system is.
And when you have an organization that's as big as FDA,
you are at risk of just the system being captured.
And this is the system we live in right now.
Yeah.
I mean, speaking of that, obviously, there was this big push for Maha,
uh, RFK getting into health and human services.
And it seems like they're trying to shake things up at FDA,
but what's your perspective?
Are they, um, making any progress?
Is it, are they just being consumed by the centralized beast?
Are we moving in the right direction?
I mean, it's clear that he's causing some ripples.
Uh, it's not, uh, it's not as much change as I would have liked,
but it's clear that he's fighting a huge beast that is not easy to shake off.
But him, now that the hepatitis B vaccine is off the schedule, that's huge.
And just one thing, one small change can lead people to start questioning.
And this is what we need.
The beast is just so big that it's very difficult for him to change everything.
But I think even though he has had to water down his message a lot,
he is causing some changes. So that's promising. But again, I believe that ultimately the solution
is not going to come from the government the way we imagine it. The solution is going to come
once we make this government just a lot weaker than it is right now.
Yeah. Well, in the interim, I mean, I think we've talked a lot about sort of doctors branching off
going direct primary care, but what advice would you give to someone who's frustrated with their
current doctor, doesn't know how to find a physician, like what would you, how would you
advise the consumer of healthcare to contribute to the fixing of this problem? Yeah. I mean, if,
if you don't have any doctors in your community that you trust, direct primary care doctors that
are less heavy on pushing pills or, uh, I think online you'll, you'll find a lot of good resources.
So you can research things a lot and don't rely on just Google and chat GPT to tell you what actually works because they base their data on the most popular health websites, which are all pharmaceutical funded or based from a big hospital.
So do your own research.
The best way I recommend is try and find people who you trust what they say, you trust their opinions on medicine.
Follow them, see what accounts they follow, see what sort of things they recommend.
And I think more and more doctors are going to start offering online services that you can get health advice, you can get recommendations online.
And I think people should start actively looking for that.
And then beyond that, before they even need to get to a doctor, if they hear what you're saying, they're like, okay, I need to focus more on preventative health care, get my lifestyle in order, improve my lifestyle, improve my health.
What are sort of the lowest hanging fruits, first steps that you recommend people take?
Yeah.
So, I mean, the first thing to know is that diet is the cornerstone of health.
And do we have time to go into a bit more details of diet or do you want me just?
Yes.
Yeah.
We have plenty of time.
Great.
So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of confusing information out there about what the ideal human diet is.
And there's a lot of extreme diets that might not be effective for everyone.
What I tell people is that the most helpful resource I found to understand diet is the work of this dentist called Weston Price.
So Weston Price was this dentist in the early 1900s.
That was the time when vegan and vegetarian diets were starting to get popular.
And everyone thought that a vegetarian diet is the ultimate human diet.
So Weston Price, what he did, he actually traveled the world going to tribes that haven't been touched by industrialization.
These tribes, you know, had their local diets that haven't changed in hundreds or thousands of years.
And so he went and saw what these people ate.
And what he found is that these people tended to be very healthy because they haven't been touched by processed food yet.
and what all these tribes had in common is that they all had an animal-based diet.
So the cornerstone of their diet was animal meat and fat
and whatever else grows in the environment locally.
So he went there trying to prove that a vegetarian diet is healthy,
but what he actually found is the opposite,
is that animal meat and fat were always appreciated by these older societies.
So I think the ideal human diet should be built around animal protein and fat.
And this should be the cornerstone of your diet.
It should be there in every meal that you eat.
If a meal doesn't have animal protein or fat, then it's not a meal.
And whatever you eat on the side, I don't recommend that.
I don't think a carnivore diet is for everyone.
I don't think a keto diet is for everyone.
But I think what's really helpful is to eat whatever grows locally in your environment.
So if you live in the East Coast of the United States, you're not going to have pineapples in December.
You're not going to have mangoes in December.
And funnily enough is that your metabolism is affected by the light that you're exposed to.
so you are less able to handle the sugars from this pineapple
in December versus if you get it in the summer
so eat whatever grows locally in your environment
and of course avoid anything that's processed
anything that comes from a factory
this I think is the cornerstone of a healthy diet
and if people do that
then you've gotten 80% of the benefit
with only 20% of the work
If you want to complicate things further, you can, but this is just a very good starting point.
No, it is crazy how eating local, how humans are connected to their locality.
And the one example that I always have fun telling people is that when we moved to Texas, cedar fever was a real thing for me, cedar fever for the first few months.
And then I had somebody tell me like, hey, you need to go find some raw local honey and eat that today.
you're really getting exposed to these these pollens um and incorporating them into your body
and that's exactly what i did and i didn't have cedar fever for the rest of my the time i was
living in austin and it's it's crazy how something as simple as that can contribute to to better
health? Yeah, it's quite simple. There's a lot of confusing information about diet, but I think
that's a great way to start. Eat from a local farmer's market. Whatever grows there is whatever
is local and get a good butcher and you are solving 90% of the problems. Another very important
thing about preventive health is the light that you're exposed to. So most of us these days are
not getting enough sunlight. You want to try and be outside every day. Even if it's cloudy,
try and go outside. You're still getting healthy rays of sunlight coming to your body. Even if
your body is entirely covered up, even if just your eyes being exposed to the sun is good.
What I recommend for people is aim for at least 10 minutes of morning sunlight before it's 10 a.m.
Go outside 10 minutes, looking in the general direction of the sun.
That's just going to upgrade your metabolism for the entire day,
start, ramp up your metabolism,
and it's going to make you feel so much better for the rest of the day.
If you are in an environment where you're under artificial light a lot,
whether it's your office, et cetera,
try and go outside and take frequent breaks.
So go outside at noon again and then go again in the afternoon.
this being outside in the sun reconnects uh uh you your circadian rhythm to the sun
recalibrates it and this uh fixes all your hormones and neurotransmitters for for that day
and speaking of circadian rhythm it's funny because that when we're doing a natural
we're going the natural path to get my wife's um body more in sync and preparation for her third
child that was the the first advice she got from her doctor was hey go outside before 10 a.m and
make sure you're getting sunlight particularly before 10 a.m but bring this because it kicks
off your circadian rhythm your metabolism get your neurotransmitters firing and um but on this
point of circadian rhythm, how important is sleep to all this as well?
Sleep is very important. And what people don't realize is that sleep is the most important
regenerative phase in your body to try and get rid of inflammation, to get rid of
toxicity, to get rid of free radicals. And even if people sleep seven hours at night and wake up
refreshed, there are still levels you can improve your sleep better. And I think the major thing
disturbing our sleep these days is artificial light exposure after sunset.
This is a very very important and it a low yield fruit for anyone who trying to improve their health is after sunset you want to limit the amount of artificial light you exposed to So blue LED bulbs are the worst Try and replace them with either candle light
or incandescent bulbs. But even with incandescence, you want to try and minimize the light that you're
supposed to because that fake light that you're exposed to at night disturbs the synthesis of
melatonin in your body. And melatonin is important not only to make you sleep, but it also has a lot
of important regenerative properties in the body, including anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory
properties. So be very conscious of the light that you're exposed to, and that will help your sleep
significantly. Somebody who values the sleep, I can't operate on less than seven hours, which
um if i don't get at least seven hours i'm pretty thrown off for the for the whole day
and that's um the light it's something too it's like i'm looking at a screen here i've got another
uh monitor right to my left here and it's like something that is anomalous maybe not anomalous
but it's just new in the last three decades is like humans particularly the workforce most of it
at least white collar work.
And this is our lives
is standing in front of these
blue light emitting screens
for hours upon hours every day,
day in and day out.
And then you add the phone to it
and it's like most people
never stood a chance.
Yeah.
I don't usually recommend gadgets.
I'm not a Brian Johnson kind of figure,
but if there's one gadget
that people should invest in,
it's blue blocking glasses.
so what these do is
they have red lenses
and what they do is that they allow
they don't allow the blue spectrum
of light to come into your eyes
and it's very important
because your circadian rhythm
is set on
based on
how much blue light you're exposed to
so you can get the other spectrum
of light but as long as you're not getting
that much blue light
it still allows your
melatonin to continue
being synthesized. So what I recommend is after sunset, wear these blue blocking glasses so that
even if you're exposed to blue light in your environment, at least your eyes are not getting
exposed to them. And you're going to notice that the quality of sleep is just so much better once
you start using them. Yeah. I've got to pick up a pair of those. I typically stay up a little later
writing as well. Yeah. I used to think it was just, you know, just a gadget that's not helpful
because I thought my sleep was very good.
But once I tried them,
my quality of sleep just became so much deeper
and so much more refreshing.
And you feel so much better the next day.
All right, I got to pick these up
and throw it on the Christmas list.
To wrap this up though,
really leaning into the Bitcoin standard
and how it can help medicine.
Again, from a doctor's perspective,
so I've talked about this
in many different capacities,
I know there a health services account company getting started up like a health savings account company if you want to basically do a personal sort of health care budget
using Bitcoin over the long term
to basically make sure that you can pay for medical expenses
because you're saving in a money
that is going to increase purchasing power.
I've heard of doctors incorporating it into their practices
to make sure that they're able to have a sustainable business.
Obviously, health insurance seems like a low-hanging fruit
if you have long-duration sort of health cost liabilities
that you need to line up.
Bitcoin is a perfect long-duration asset to pair there.
Where do you see Bitcoin being introduced into the medical system
to help doctors and patients?
Yeah, I think it has very important uses in the health space.
Firstly is, you know, there have been a lot of doctors that speak out against the system.
And, you know, they get repercussions where their funds are canceled, their bank accounts are confiscated, etc.
So there are repercussions on free speech with people using fiat money.
But if doctors that want to speak out start getting paid in Bitcoin,
then if the people who like what you're saying, they can just send you Bitcoin directly.
There doesn't have to be a third party that's meddling in between.
And so that's going to help with doctors speaking out against the system
and hopefully people getting out of this fiat system.
another aspect of this is one of the main problems with modern medicine these days is that
all the small practices are getting taken over by bigger practices bigger hospital groups bigger
clinics etc and the reason is is because you know small fish can't survive these days
because you need to be big in order to get access to easy credit.
So when we live in a debt-based society,
the more debt that you can get, the more you're able to survive inflation.
And so all these groups are getting taken over by bigger groups
because bigger groups have easier access to loans.
Once we get off this inflationary system, once we get on a Bitcoin standard, then still small doctors can still run their own practices.
And I think that's going to be very helpful for their patients.
And then finally, the most important part is, you know, people writing medical guidelines, people deciding what needs to be researched, people pushing pills on us.
They all get their power from this big government that's all powerful.
And how is this government so powerful?
Because it has access to the money printer and unlimited amounts of money.
So once we get rid of this money printer, then there's no big enemy that we're fighting anymore.
And you know smaller doctors smaller clinics more free research more free medical guidelines can prosper And that going to help doctors practicing
Now, that was one thing that Jessica, Kevin, and I covered.
Again, this peer review process and the fact that it's completely centralized.
They're trying to create a separate distributed peer review process and using Bitcoin bounties to get certain papers peer reviewed.
So if you have a priority or if you're just interested in a particular ailment or area of study
and you don't want to wait for the centralized peer review networks and journals and publishers
to look at your work and take it seriously, you're just like, okay, let's use this system
and we'll use a Bitcoin bounty program to incentivize people to do the research,
to review these papers.
And I think that makes a ton of sense to me.
Yeah, that's where the future is heading.
And smart people are already starting to realize this.
They're creating their platforms online.
They're getting funding from Bitcoiners.
And the future is bright.
It is bright.
It's a white pill, the only pill I like to take here.
Yes.
Uh, Ahmad, this has been a pleasure. Where can anybody who's listening, find out more about your
work, get in contact with you? Uh, if, um, if they have questions or, um, suggestions or they were
inspired, where can people find more about you? Yeah. So, uh, on social media, on Instagram and
X, I'm at Amos MD. Uh, I also, uh, have a free newsletter that people can sign to, uh, sign up
for and at moosmd.com.
And I also offer online consultations
for those interested also on my website.
Awesome.
Well, this has been a pleasure.
We'll have to do it again
because I think there's definitely
going to be some change
in the field of medicine
over the next many years,
hopefully positive change.
And we'll love to have you back on
to discuss these things as they evolve.
Great.
Thanks, Marty.
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