1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,740 Susan Kukindo, welcome to the show. 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:04,500 Thanks for having me. Looking forward to it. 3 00:00:04,940 --> 00:00:08,660 Like I was saying right before we hit record, I very much am looking forward to this. 4 00:00:08,660 --> 00:00:25,900 As I was explaining, we've had a recurring guest on, Tom Luongo, who's very passionate about the City of London and the fact that most people have not diagnosed the City of London as the problem of geopolitics today, of global control. 5 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:35,720 You've been on this subject for quite a while and have been putting out incredible content about how it pertains to what's happening in the world today. 6 00:00:35,860 --> 00:00:46,700 But first, I think just to give a high level synopsis of the City of London thesis, their control over the global economy and political affairs for the last 300 years. 7 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:49,940 And then we can pull it forward to today and what's happening. 8 00:00:49,940 --> 00:01:03,900 Sure. I mean, I think the fastest way for people to think about this is just think about what we fought the American Revolution against. We fought it against a British empire. Now, what was that British empire? 9 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:25,060 Well, the British Empire was very much dominated by two institutions, the Bank of England and the British East India Company, both of which represented kind of like the modern codification of imperialism, where you have private financial interests who actually have more power than the nominal governments. 10 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Now, it gets a little different when you have monarchies, but essentially, you know, when you're looking up the British Empire, you look at the monarchy and all of the institutions that are connected to that. 11 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:51,020 You know, I always remind people, for those of us who, you know, remember the old James Bond series, on Her Majesty's Secret Service, on Her Majesty's Secret Service, who runs MI6? 12 00:01:51,020 --> 00:01:52,020 It's not the government. 13 00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:53,080 It's not the parliament. 14 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:58,820 But you have this complex of things, which includes the Bank of England, the British 15 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:00,000 Intelligence Services. 16 00:02:00,140 --> 00:02:06,040 But then the city of London itself is this unique incorporated entity of I don't remember 17 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,640 how many square miles, which has its own independent existence. 18 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,620 And it is where the major financial flows of the world go through. 19 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:35,800 So when you look at that complex, this is what we actually fought the American Revolution against, because their intention is we're going to keep everybody under our control, your financial flows, and by the way, through perpetual wars, and get them pitted against each other. 20 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:43,120 And they have no place else to go for finances other than these private central banks or the institutions that are tied to the city of London. 21 00:02:43,120 --> 00:03:03,120 And then the upstart Americans came along and said, no, we don't like that. We want to be sovereign. We want to be sovereign politically. We want to be sovereign economically. And one of the most important things that we did, which was really quite as much, we made an economic revolution as much as we did a political revolution. 22 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Revolution, we created a national bank where the nation was not subservient to private bankers, 23 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,420 but the national bank was subservient to the interests of the nation. And of course, 24 00:03:14,820 --> 00:03:21,940 that went by the way in various iterations. And then we ended up with our own central bank 25 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:29,060 in 1913. So when you think city of London, think about this entire imperial complex, 26 00:03:29,060 --> 00:03:33,180 which is no different, again, than what we fought the American Revolution against. 27 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:42,180 And is it safe to assume that today in 2025, we are fighting yet another revolution? It's not only 28 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:48,520 us this time around, but it's more behind the scenes than it was in 1776. 29 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,900 Yeah. You know, most people in the MAGA movement and more broadly think of it from the standpoint 30 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:59,760 of globalists and globalization. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. That's a good generic 31 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:06,660 title for it. But the brand name is go back to the British Empire and then trace the institutions 32 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:12,960 that they created that still exist to this day in terms of foreign policy, in terms of central 33 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:19,040 banking institutions, in terms of intelligence agencies. And you'll see what it is we and 34 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:25,480 Donald Trump are essentially fighting against. Well, let's dive into current events. There's 35 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:31,340 a lot of activity off the coast of Venezuela, as we were discussing before we hit record. 36 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:39,060 There is a new sort of economic policy that was released earlier today, really focusing on 37 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:45,040 the Western hemisphere. If you look at the mainstream media, a lot of the pundits are 38 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:54,400 pining about extrajudicial bombing of narco terrorists and that not being okay war has not 39 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:00,440 been officially waged through Congress. And so this is a bad thing. How does this all pertain to 40 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:09,380 this intercabal squabble, if you will, between the West, the United States, the Trump administration 41 00:05:09,380 --> 00:05:14,180 would like the US to be sovereign economically and geopolitically and the city of London? 42 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Well, this actually gets to the core of a very important aspect of this, because what you're dealing with, there's one more iteration, shall we say, of the city of London, and that's international drug trafficking. 43 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:40,180 You know, historically, people are familiar with Britain's opium wars against China, which were used politically to basically, you know, make China subservient to them. 44 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:50,340 But also financially, because there are huge dark money flows tied to the international drug trade in the trillions and trillions of dollars. 45 00:05:50,340 --> 00:06:03,480 And what you've seen emerging in South and Central America with Venezuela as a key nodal point in all of this is one of these nodal points for what we call dope incorporated. 46 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Um, the, the, especially the, the, one of, one of the key transit points for a lot of 47 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,680 this dirty money going back to the seventies and eighties and so on has been Britain's 48 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:22,020 offshore Caribbean islands, you know, totally deregulated, no transparency. 49 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,020 You know, you can drive a gorilla of dirty money through these things and nobody will 50 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:27,680 ever know it. 51 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:50,620 So you've had this huge underbelly of the global financier elite, in particular, the British side of it. And what you find in countries like Venezuela and other countries, which to one degree or another, you know, are in contention with literally a narco-terrorist government. 52 00:06:50,620 --> 00:07:18,160 I mean, if you think about this, if you think about the narco-terrorists, not a bunch of guys from South America who are making money, you know, shipping fentanyl and cocaine into the United States, but as part of this global financier elite, you know, this just happens to be their Latin or Central American division of it, you're literally dealing with what is the equivalent of an entire foreign entity down there. 53 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:24,540 You know, I've often said, you know, people say, well, we've had failed wars on drugs. 54 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,140 No, we haven't. 55 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,580 We've never fought one because the real war on drugs has got to be against these financier 56 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:30,940 interests. 57 00:07:30,940 --> 00:07:36,240 But of course, they don't function without the actual drugs, flow of drugs as well. 58 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,380 And Wall Street and London have never wanted a war on drugs, which is why we've never had 59 00:07:42,380 --> 00:07:43,180 a serious one. 60 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:46,000 And that is what I think Trump is targeting. 61 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:47,520 And this is a war. 62 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,860 And it's a war in which there have been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of American casualties. 63 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,200 So he has declared this to be a national emergency. 64 00:07:57,420 --> 00:08:01,120 He's declared these narco-terrorist gangs to be just that. 65 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:14,880 And, of course, you have, you know, the entire anti-Trump opposition, which, you know, never seemed to notice how many innocent civilians Barack Obama droned when he was president of the United States. 66 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,380 including infamous situations where they'd go in and they'd drone a wedding, and then they'd go 67 00:08:20,380 --> 00:08:26,080 back in and they'd drone the first responders. Hundreds and hundreds of civilians and women and 68 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:34,560 children were killed by Barack Obama in much less clear circumstances than what we're dealing with 69 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:42,120 right now, which is a foreign-financed and directed assault against the very lives of the American 70 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:48,920 people. So this really does go to the heart as much as anything of the city of London. 71 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,580 Well, to that point, how much influence has the city of London had on domestic politics here 72 00:08:55,580 --> 00:09:01,340 in the United States as it pertains to Venezuela? There's been a, I wouldn't even consider them 73 00:09:01,340 --> 00:09:06,020 headlines. There's been a lot of theories about the voting technology and the servers 74 00:09:06,020 --> 00:09:10,880 that were sort of storing the votes being located in Venezuela. 75 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,820 Obviously, the deep state as a concept, particularly the CIA and FBI, 76 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,760 colluding with foreign interests to get certain things done has been a long-running theory. 77 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,560 How much of this, from your perspective, is actually happening, and how is it happening? 78 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:33,240 I'm not ready to say from my own investigations and personal experience 79 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:40,040 how much of that is actually run through foreign countries. I mean, I'm politically active here in 80 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:46,420 Michigan. After the 2020 election, I got very much involved in election integrity efforts here 81 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:53,080 in Michigan because it was pretty obvious what happened here at the infamous TCF Center. And 82 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,340 the work that I've done over the years in terms of this, the vote stealing is primarily the 83 00:09:58,340 --> 00:10:04,760 absentee ballots. It's not gremlins in the machines and international information packets 84 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:11,280 coming from Serbia or Venezuela. Is there something there? There could be. I don't think 85 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:17,460 it's the most fundamental part. I think the most important thing for people to think about is the 86 00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:23,600 way that this imperial system, this British imperial system, has infected most of our 87 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:30,180 institutions since the beginning of the 20th century. So it's not like you have to draw a 88 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:37,260 direct connecto between this event and here's the address in London, but just look at how our entire 89 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:43,600 foreign policy establishment for over 100 years has been inculcated in British imperial thinking. 90 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,260 You know, the British recognized that the United States was becoming a powerful force coming out of 91 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:56,720 the Civil War and going into the turn of the 20th century. They took care of some of our power by 92 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,020 assassinating our best presidents like Abraham Lincoln and William McKinley. But at that point, 93 00:11:02,020 --> 00:11:08,460 they recognized even with that, we were becoming an industrial power. Other nations around the 94 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:13,920 world, nations like Russia, Germany, Japan, China, and many others were modeling themselves 95 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:19,020 on the American system and not the British system. And the British said, well, we're going to have to 96 00:11:19,020 --> 00:11:24,180 figure out how to capture the United States intellectually. And you see the subversion of 97 00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:29,240 our education institutions. You see obvious institutions like the Council on Foreign Relations, 98 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:35,480 which was founded in 1922 as a direct outgrowth of the British Roundtable. And the British 99 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:41,260 Roundtable was very clear, along with the Cecil Rhodes' will, we have to bring the United States 100 00:11:41,260 --> 00:11:46,320 back into the imperial fold. We're going to figure out how to do that. So they started setting up 101 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,100 institution after institution in the United States to just get us to do their bidding 102 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:58,800 because they had corrupted the way we thought. And Donald Trump came along in 2016 and began 103 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,740 to disrupt that. And he came back in 2024 and he's really disrupting that. 104 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Yeah. As it pertains to the Council of Foreign Relations, I think when USAID got decimated 105 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,300 in the beginning of this administration. 106 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,280 It was astonishing. 107 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,920 I think the sort of meeting Zoom recordings 108 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,300 leaked a couple of months ago, 109 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,940 but it was kind of appalling, 110 00:12:24,060 --> 00:12:24,820 may not be the right word, 111 00:12:24,820 --> 00:12:28,560 but it was very, it was astonishing 112 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,440 how emboldened they were, 113 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,700 basically saying we can, 114 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,160 despite what's happening to USAID, 115 00:12:34,220 --> 00:12:37,420 we can act sort of above that. 116 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:39,020 We are coordinating to make sure 117 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:42,120 that this isn't really a big disruption to what we're doing here. 118 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,980 Yeah. I mean, I think it has disrupted a lot of what they're doing. And if you 119 00:12:46,980 --> 00:12:53,220 go back to the Venezuela situation, if you actually disrupt the global drug trade, 120 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:59,480 you are going to be disrupting even more of the financial flows that this apparatus depends on. 121 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:04,960 So Trump is a gigantic disruptor at this point, and they are obviously not amused. 122 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:11,140 through. I mean, shifting before we come back to the national security strategy that was just 123 00:13:11,140 --> 00:13:16,760 released, I mean, shifting to Europe to looking at what's happening there in terms of digital ID, 124 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:37,235 the increase in censorship it seems apparent if we running down this thesis and using this as the core framework from which we view the world it seems that the city of London has very tight control over Europe the continent of Europe And I look as a Westerner as a United States citizen 125 00:13:37,795 --> 00:13:40,495 at what's happening in Germany, UK, Ireland, 126 00:13:40,855 --> 00:13:44,235 and completely dumbfounded by what's happening, 127 00:13:44,355 --> 00:13:47,975 particularly with censorship laws in this push. 128 00:13:47,975 --> 00:13:56,015 Now we have the UK trying to sue X for speech that that people are putting on this American company's platform. 129 00:13:56,535 --> 00:13:59,835 What is the state of Europe and can they get out of this? 130 00:13:59,835 --> 00:14:02,335 Europe gave up its sovereignty with the EU. 131 00:14:03,775 --> 00:14:11,315 I mean, that was a grand experiment, which the globalists succeeded in imposing on these countries. 132 00:14:12,275 --> 00:14:17,375 So you, I mean, when you're looking at the EU, you're basically looking at just a bunch 133 00:14:17,375 --> 00:14:22,175 of political and economic colonies, for that matter, with the exception of a few countries. 134 00:14:22,295 --> 00:14:27,075 I mean, obviously, as we know, there are a few countries in Europe, like Hungary and 135 00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:32,095 Slovakia and others who are, you know, kicking back and have more of a national or sovereign 136 00:14:32,095 --> 00:14:33,735 kind of approach. 137 00:14:34,815 --> 00:14:38,835 But, you know, and sometimes it gets, people get a little confused. 138 00:14:38,835 --> 00:14:46,455 well, the British got out of Brexit. So, you know, aren't they different? Not really. You know, 139 00:14:46,575 --> 00:14:52,735 they're perfectly capable of manipulating institutions, whether they're directly in 140 00:14:52,735 --> 00:14:57,715 them or not in them. And obviously, as you pointed out, the policies being implemented 141 00:14:57,715 --> 00:15:03,635 in terms of digital ID, surveillance, destruction of economies, green policies, 142 00:15:04,135 --> 00:15:08,735 it's all of a piece, whether it's the British or whether it's the European Union. 143 00:15:08,835 --> 00:15:17,155 And, you know, and from inside the West, again, the first major disruption of all of that is Donald Trump. 144 00:15:17,955 --> 00:15:34,055 And but he's also not alone because obviously Russia under Putin has very much of a national sovereign kind of policy where they're acting in the interest of Russia, not in the interest of oligarchs, not in the interest of a global financier elite. 145 00:15:34,995 --> 00:15:40,475 And, you know, Trump's approach is as long as you're acting in the interests of your 146 00:15:40,475 --> 00:15:44,275 country and not somebody else, I can work with you. 147 00:15:44,855 --> 00:15:49,755 And in a sense, that's the difference between a country that you may have an adversarial 148 00:15:49,755 --> 00:15:56,075 kind of relationship with, whether it's economically or strategically, like North Korea or China, 149 00:15:56,775 --> 00:16:01,415 where their leaders are more or less acting in the interests of their country as they 150 00:16:01,415 --> 00:16:05,975 perceive it, and a place like Maduro, where I don't think Maduro is acting on behalf of 151 00:16:05,975 --> 00:16:14,755 Venezuelans. I think he's an arm of this narco-terrorist apparatus, which owes its allegiance 152 00:16:14,755 --> 00:16:23,615 basically to this British imperial elite. So that's how Trump looks at things. If you're a 153 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:27,915 sovereign nation, I can work with you. If you're acting under your own interests, we may have 154 00:16:27,915 --> 00:16:32,795 problems and it may take a while to work them out, but that's okay. I can work with you. But if 155 00:16:32,795 --> 00:16:37,935 you're just a tool of this global financier elite, it's going to be very different. 156 00:16:39,695 --> 00:16:43,755 How does the media play into all this? Because if you read the tea leaves of mainstream media, 157 00:16:43,755 --> 00:16:54,215 they are very adamant that Trump too is an abject disaster. And if we're polling public sentiment, 158 00:16:55,135 --> 00:16:59,575 Obviously, there's a contingent of Americans who think he's doing a good job. 159 00:16:59,635 --> 00:17:02,515 There's also a contingent who voted for him and think he's not doing enough. 160 00:17:02,615 --> 00:17:09,095 How would you basically describe what he's done so far in the context of this framework? 161 00:17:09,635 --> 00:17:11,675 And what would you say to people? 162 00:17:12,295 --> 00:17:15,435 And how would you set their expectations, I think? 163 00:17:15,435 --> 00:17:24,075 Well, I think the most important thing that that is is not getting across through the media, whether it's the hostile mainstream media, 164 00:17:24,215 --> 00:17:29,995 or I'll call the controlled opposition like Fox, you know, media and so on, which, quote, 165 00:17:30,095 --> 00:17:34,175 supports Trump up to a point, but they still want war with Russia. They still want war with China. 166 00:17:34,435 --> 00:17:39,415 They still love Wall Street, you know, and so on. So I think what is not getting out, 167 00:17:39,415 --> 00:17:46,115 although I think I've seen there's definitely a shift since the off-year elections back at the 168 00:17:46,115 --> 00:17:51,815 beginning of the month in the administration is getting across to people the importance of the 169 00:17:51,815 --> 00:18:00,535 revolutionary change in economic policy that Trump is carrying out. And I will get to the 170 00:18:00,535 --> 00:18:06,615 national security strategy, which was just announced this morning, because I encourage 171 00:18:06,615 --> 00:18:12,415 everybody to read it. It's 33 pages. You know, just stop doom scrolling for a half an hour and 172 00:18:12,415 --> 00:18:19,235 read it, because you will be shocked by how much of it is about economic policy. And I'm going to 173 00:18:19,235 --> 00:18:23,675 read one section of it. I haven't even had a chance to read the whole thing myself, 174 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:29,095 because I've been jumping from this to that. But this part a friend of mine sent to me. 175 00:18:29,095 --> 00:18:37,455 He said, this is our national security strategy, okay? We want a gainfully employed citizenry with 176 00:18:37,455 --> 00:18:41,935 no one sitting on the sidelines who takes satisfaction from knowing that their work is 177 00:18:41,935 --> 00:18:47,635 essential to the prosperity of our nation and to the well-being of individuals and families. 178 00:18:47,635 --> 00:18:53,455 This cannot be accomplished without growing numbers of strong traditional families that raise healthy children. 179 00:18:54,015 --> 00:18:56,975 And then the next section is pro-American worker. 180 00:18:57,295 --> 00:19:01,115 American policy must be pro-worker, not merely pro-growth. 181 00:19:01,615 --> 00:19:03,975 And it will prioritize our own workers. 182 00:19:03,975 --> 00:19:17,755 We must rebuild an economy in which prosperity is broadly based and widely shared, not concentrated at the top or localized in certain industries or a few parts of our country. 183 00:19:18,275 --> 00:19:19,875 That's really quite stunning. 184 00:19:20,535 --> 00:19:28,555 And if you look at the whole of what Trump is doing, and you can get a good handle of it if you watch the cabinet meeting from the other day. 185 00:19:28,635 --> 00:19:32,875 And I also recommend stop doom scrolling and just go watch the whole cabinet meeting. 186 00:19:32,875 --> 00:19:57,735 I mean, you know, put it on two times speed if you have to, but you're going to hear a team which is engaged in something that we have not seen in the United States in at least the post-war period, which is the revival of our physical economy at the expense of the financier parasites of which City of London is first among equals. 187 00:19:57,735 --> 00:20:06,775 and just a forced march of getting investment back in to manufacturing, infrastructure, energy, 188 00:20:06,775 --> 00:20:11,895 and creating the kind of good-paying jobs where one income can raise a family. 189 00:20:13,235 --> 00:20:20,855 Everything, including setting up the skilled trades apprenticeship programs so we can upskill the population 190 00:20:20,855 --> 00:20:24,775 and people can go out and get those kinds of jobs instead of being Uber drivers. 191 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:28,475 Trump sees this as our national security policy. 192 00:20:29,115 --> 00:20:30,355 And he's absolutely right. 193 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:34,775 And I think the more people understand this is where we're going, and it may not all be 194 00:20:34,775 --> 00:20:41,015 tangible in 2025, and a lot of it might not be tangible, say, in the first quarter of 195 00:20:41,015 --> 00:20:42,015 2026. 196 00:20:42,015 --> 00:20:46,475 I think more of it is going to become tangible by the second and the third quarters. 197 00:20:47,055 --> 00:20:53,215 But whether you see the manufacturing jobs spring up in your community or not, people 198 00:20:53,215 --> 00:21:00,355 have to understand this is a revolution as big as anything we've had since Abraham Lincoln or 199 00:21:00,355 --> 00:21:07,575 George Washington. Well, it's very refreshing to hear that. And it's stunning that it is stunning 200 00:21:07,575 --> 00:21:15,795 to hear something like that come out of a national strategic security memo, because it seems pretty 201 00:21:15,795 --> 00:21:21,335 straightforward. Throughout, the whole thing is just infused with this. Here's another one. 202 00:21:21,335 --> 00:21:26,835 The future belongs to makers. The United States will re-industrialize its economy, 203 00:21:27,055 --> 00:21:31,715 reshore industrial production, encourage and attract investment in our workforce. And then 204 00:21:31,715 --> 00:21:38,075 it goes on. Well, we've been led to believe that we can't do it. We don't have the intellectual 205 00:21:38,075 --> 00:21:44,235 capital. We don't have the raw materials, resources. And the economy has been built in 206 00:21:44,235 --> 00:21:48,355 such a way over the last five decades that we're just not built for it, which I think 207 00:21:48,355 --> 00:21:55,455 that last point is certainly true. But I think it comes with this assumption that we can't revert to 208 00:21:55,455 --> 00:21:59,215 an industrialized economy, which I find very hard to believe. 209 00:21:59,575 --> 00:22:02,455 And it was deliberate. And if we want to get back to the city of London, 210 00:22:03,075 --> 00:22:08,635 a key nodal point in the post-war period was 1971, when Nixon took the dollar off the gold 211 00:22:08,635 --> 00:22:13,455 reserve standard and we ended Bretton Woods. Why did he do that? Because the dollar was under 212 00:22:13,455 --> 00:22:20,795 tremendous pressure by the British. Now, there was probably another way out, but I wasn't there. 213 00:22:20,895 --> 00:22:29,195 I was very young. And Nixon relied on the people who had been trained in British imperial financial 214 00:22:29,195 --> 00:22:34,515 thinking, whether they were conservative or liberal. So he took that step. And that began 215 00:22:34,515 --> 00:22:40,395 the process where everything was financialized. Our currency was financialized. It was no longer 216 00:22:40,395 --> 00:22:46,215 a sovereign currency. Then everything else became an income stream. Healthcare, manufacturing, 217 00:22:46,555 --> 00:22:55,075 transportation, energy. You no longer organized your economy to increase these kinds of physical 218 00:22:55,075 --> 00:23:00,875 activities. Everything was simply then tied to some parasite, which just sucked everything out 219 00:23:00,875 --> 00:23:06,475 of it. And of course, free trade was the next nodal point in terms of it. So we, by surrendering 220 00:23:06,475 --> 00:23:13,015 to City of London policies hollowed out our economy and left us where we are today. But 221 00:23:13,015 --> 00:23:18,555 there's no reason we can't rebuild it. And that's what this administration is committed to doing. 222 00:23:19,375 --> 00:23:24,735 And you touched on the sort of position of the Trump administration, which was like, 223 00:23:24,735 --> 00:23:29,495 hey, if you're a sovereign nation that is truly looking after the interest of your 224 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:34,455 nation itself and not being influenced by outside forces, we're willing to work with you. And I 225 00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:38,315 watched your most recent video that you put on YouTube and you were talking about this, 226 00:23:38,315 --> 00:23:44,235 these nuclear related meetings that were happening around the world over the last, 227 00:23:44,335 --> 00:23:52,875 last week, what is, what happened and what is the profundity of, of what actually happened? 228 00:23:53,515 --> 00:24:01,335 Well, if, if you stop and you think about what is the combination of economic, strategic, 229 00:24:01,335 --> 00:24:09,595 and political power that could actually challenge this city of London-centered imperial 230 00:24:09,595 --> 00:24:15,895 behemoth, I would say it's four countries, the United States, Russia, China, and India. 231 00:24:16,575 --> 00:24:24,055 So what happened this week? You had Trump's team, Witkoff and Kushner, in Moscow meeting with Putin 232 00:24:24,055 --> 00:24:29,315 in a five-hour meeting. And some of that meeting was definitely about economic policy, not just 233 00:24:29,315 --> 00:24:35,535 trying to work out the details and the nuances of the Ukraine mess. Simultaneously, you have the 234 00:24:35,535 --> 00:24:40,955 Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi meeting with Sergei Lavrov, his counterpart in Russia. 235 00:24:42,375 --> 00:24:47,435 You know, as I said in my show, was this coordinated? I don't know. But the strategic 236 00:24:47,435 --> 00:24:52,715 optics are pretty clear. There are the three superpowers, those three superpowers. And then 237 00:24:52,715 --> 00:24:57,735 what's happened over the last couple of days? Putin is in India. Now, you know, the people who 238 00:24:57,735 --> 00:25:03,055 like to play geopolitics, make sure the superpowers are always at each other's throats, 239 00:25:03,115 --> 00:25:08,175 are going to say, oh, well, China was in Russia because Russia wants to have some kind of 240 00:25:08,175 --> 00:25:13,055 counterweight against the United States, or Putin is in India, and India is having trade 241 00:25:13,055 --> 00:25:18,415 conflicts with Trump, and they're playing that. I don't see it that way. I see this kind of 242 00:25:18,415 --> 00:25:24,975 Trumpian world where these major sovereign nations are working things out amongst themselves, 243 00:25:24,975 --> 00:25:52,915 And it has nothing to do with the rules-based globalist order. It has nothing to do with London, Europe, the city of London, the international financier elite, that you actually are getting the kind of dialogue you need among these, especially these four nations, which ultimately can be the bulwark of both the political, economic, and strategic reconfiguration of the world. 244 00:25:52,915 --> 00:26:21,335 But again, not on some block. You know, that's my problem with the BRICS. You know, it's this block of countries. And I was on a show the other day and somewhat contentious with somebody saying, well, why doesn't Trump meet with the BRICS? I said, well, he's talking to Lula. He's talking to Russia. He's talking to China. He's talking to India. He's got problems with South Africa at this point. Why do you need BRICS? Why not just nation to nation to nation to nation and we figure out what's best? 245 00:26:21,335 --> 00:26:29,975 why why can't the trump administration just come out and lay this out lay this all out and say hey 246 00:26:29,975 --> 00:26:36,395 here's what's going on uh because it's somewhat cryptic or it's imperceptible if you're not 247 00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:43,135 in the weeds as you are what's the what's the danger of laying out or the opponents 248 00:26:43,135 --> 00:26:49,035 uh their their ways of operating particularly through time up to this point and then saying 249 00:26:49,035 --> 00:27:07,430 hey this is what happened This is what we trying to do Why hasn that happened Because I feel like Well you know it would make all of our lives a lot easier Right Right You know I don know why I mean I know there certain realities that people should just be conscious of 250 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:13,430 First of all, I was with a group of people here in Michigan yesterday who supported Trump, 251 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:18,350 but are very unhappy about certain aspects of his policies as they've evolved and so on. 252 00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:22,750 And I said, look, I'm not trying to make an excuse, but I want you to understand something. 253 00:27:23,370 --> 00:27:29,530 At best, he controls his government at the level of the cabinet secretaries and maybe one level down. 254 00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:37,330 I think you get below that and you still have, you can call it whatever you want, the deep state firmly embedded. 255 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:44,270 So how much maneuvering room does he have to have to, you know, come out and just sort of bear it all? 256 00:27:44,270 --> 00:27:53,270 But I think if you look at, I think you're going to see more and more of a much clearer view of this. 257 00:27:53,370 --> 00:28:00,270 In fact, two days where the administration, look, they're not going to call it the British and the city of London. 258 00:28:00,270 --> 00:28:13,250 I mean, Trump has to deal with nations, you know, and if he has to go deal with Starmer, he'll go deal with him and he'll make nice with him, even though he may be undercutting the imperial policies that Starmer is. 259 00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:18,970 you know, beholden to. So you're not going to have Trump come out and say, I don't think, 260 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:23,110 come out and say it's the British. But what I think you're going to see increasingly 261 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:30,310 is they are going to bring back much more of the focus on the globalist and the globalist 262 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:37,170 institutions. And again, if people read this new national security strategy document, you're going 263 00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:43,530 to see over and over again, attacking the globalist institutions. Or a couple of days ago, 264 00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:48,870 the White House put out a very short, beautiful statement on the anniversary of the Monroe 265 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:55,630 Doctrine. And I jotted down what it said. The American people, not foreign nations or globalist 266 00:28:55,630 --> 00:29:03,110 institutions, will control their own destiny. So I think that, you know, you're going to see 267 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:09,230 this administration drawing the American people more and more into the real nature of the fight, 268 00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:15,490 which is these globalist institutions. And, you know, those of us out there who 269 00:29:15,490 --> 00:29:21,150 have, you know, a more, a more, as I say, brand name version of it, 270 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:25,010 we'll just keep educating people and showing them this is what this really means. 271 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:31,190 Well, you mentioned the layer which he probably has the most power is at the cabinet level. 272 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:35,930 How would you compare his cabinet in his second term compared to the first? Do you think he 273 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:42,790 learned a lot of lessons during his first term and four years off. There's, there's frankly nobody 274 00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:51,330 in this cabinet that I have seen a particularly large problem with. I mean, some people look, 275 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:57,430 you have, and you also have the Trump effect. And, and I see this here in Michigan, where we have a 276 00:29:57,430 --> 00:30:00,890 bunch of people running for Congress and a bunch of people running for Senate. And some of them 277 00:30:00,890 --> 00:30:05,910 have run before. And frankly, some of them have run really terrible campaigns. And now you're 278 00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:10,910 you're seeing the ones who've got any brains are running on Donald Trump's policies. That's the 279 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:16,670 Trump effect. You know, did these people suddenly become better? I don't know. I hope so. But Trump 280 00:30:16,670 --> 00:30:21,270 has set a new standard. So I think it's the same thing with the cabinet. I mean, I think there's 281 00:30:21,270 --> 00:30:27,170 some people who had different kinds of tendencies in the past where, you know, you could have said 282 00:30:27,170 --> 00:30:32,950 they were more neocon. I won't name names. I'll just let people draw their own conclusions. But 283 00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:38,650 I think what you're seeing is that they're loyal to Trump and they are working as a team 284 00:30:38,650 --> 00:30:42,950 and they get it, that this is transformational. 285 00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:45,810 So this cabinet is amazing. 286 00:30:46,030 --> 00:30:53,310 I mean, whether it's Lutnick, whether it's the labor secretary, whether, I mean, the 287 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:56,670 biggest surprise for me is Scott Besson. 288 00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:59,910 Did I ever think I would be cheering on a treasury secretary? 289 00:30:59,910 --> 00:31:07,010 You know, every Treasury secretary that we've seen in my lifetime, you know, has just been a rubber stamp for Wall Street in the city of London. 290 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:15,870 And this guy, Besson, gets it in terms of workers, Main Street, industry, changing the direction of the country. 291 00:31:16,770 --> 00:31:24,430 He gave a really excellent interview once where he said, you know, the Democratic strategy has always been compensate the losers. 292 00:31:25,090 --> 00:31:28,870 You know, we take away your jobs, we take away your livelihood, we take away your future, 293 00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:29,990 and we throw some money at you. 294 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:31,090 And what did he say? 295 00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:32,290 He said, I don't think we're losers. 296 00:31:32,550 --> 00:31:33,910 I don't think these people are losers. 297 00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:36,910 It's the system that was broken. 298 00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:38,090 Think about that. 299 00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:42,470 A Treasury Secretary saying it's the system that was broken. 300 00:31:42,830 --> 00:31:45,470 I think everybody in Trump's cabinet understands that. 301 00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:51,210 Well, let's stay on Scott Besson for a while, because I think, or maybe not for a while, 302 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,370 but just dig a little deeper, because there's many. 303 00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:56,970 I mean, I come from the economic side of things. 304 00:31:57,150 --> 00:31:59,430 This is predominantly a Bitcoin show. 305 00:31:59,690 --> 00:32:04,270 I think a lot of the problems that exist in America today come from the fact that central 306 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:07,270 banks have corrupted our money. 307 00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:12,070 And there are many, myself included, who think that the Treasury Secretary is arguably the 308 00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:18,450 most important cabinet position in any current administration when you consider the state 309 00:32:18,450 --> 00:32:22,690 of the economy and, most importantly, the state of the national debt. 310 00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:32,510 And similarly to you, I wasn't too well aware of Scott Besson until the rumor started that he could be in the running for Treasury secretary. 311 00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:37,270 He started looking into it and even a year ago, but now more so. 312 00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:45,450 It's like, OK, if there is going to be a guy in this position to try to reorient the American economy, this seems like an incredible candidate. 313 00:32:45,610 --> 00:32:48,990 Like how important is his position in your mind? 314 00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:50,950 I think it's really critical. 315 00:32:50,950 --> 00:33:06,030 And I think it's really interesting. You know, Trump keeps saying I'd like him to be the Fed chairman. And Besson says, no, I want to stay where I am because, frankly, he has more power as Treasury secretary because Fed is just monetary tinkering. 316 00:33:06,030 --> 00:33:13,670 And a chairman which is more amenable to what Trump is trying to do will be fine, you know, like whomever he picks. 317 00:33:13,870 --> 00:33:16,010 I mean, everyone's assuming it's going to be Hasser. 318 00:33:16,930 --> 00:33:21,070 And we'll be able to ameliorate some of the damage that the Fed does. 319 00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:24,650 But at Treasury, you can actually do things. 320 00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:31,810 And very interesting interview that he did with Breitbart, I think it was, unless I'm getting my interviews confused. 321 00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:38,870 He recently did an interview at the Treasury, and they asked him, what was the most surprising 322 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:39,650 thing about you? 323 00:33:39,770 --> 00:33:42,110 You found out about the Treasury secretary job. 324 00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:45,870 He said, 40 to 50 percent of what I do is national security. 325 00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:48,290 Now, part of that is tariffs. 326 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:55,490 But then let's get back to drug money flows and, you know, Venezuela and offshore islands 327 00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:56,250 and so on. 328 00:33:56,250 --> 00:34:17,350 You know, you have somebody in that position who not only can play a role in terms of shaping economic policy to build up the industrial base of the United States again, but you have somebody in that position who actually knows what the enemy's financial operations are and is in a position to carry out financial warfare against it. 329 00:34:17,350 --> 00:34:36,190 Yeah, because you mentioned the Caymans. And this, I think I covered this in my newsletter earlier this year, but it's become more apparent that there's definitely some dark money things going on in the Cayman Islands, particularly, I can bring this back to Scott Besson, as it pertains to treasuries. 330 00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:46,830 There's sort of a black box of treasury holdings within the Caymans, and a lot of people are suspecting that it is just a slush fund for these nefarious activities. 331 00:34:47,590 --> 00:34:58,550 I mean, depending on how you count them, one could argue that the Cayman Islands technically is the largest holder, foreign holder of treasuries in the world, surpassing Japan, the UK and China. 332 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:03,350 Right. I mean, it could be. And, you know, people have to keep this into account. 333 00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:22,010 You know, we have certain vulnerabilities. I mean, previous administrations, through their insane policies, have left the United States extremely vulnerable. I mean, let's just talk about rare earths. And obviously, there's, I mean, look at what Trump did with China, bought us a year so that we can actually start getting production going on in the United States. 334 00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:48,890 But, you know, you look at the enormous debt of the United States, which is in the hands of other countries. So in a certain sense, to get back to your other question, why don't they just come out and say this? I think they're taking a whole lot of very careful, deliberate steps to put the United States in a position where it can defend itself, where it can begin to extricate itself from this financier system. 335 00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:55,610 But this is not, you know, this is not the kind of thing where you just snap your finger and say, oh, bye bye, city of London. 336 00:35:55,930 --> 00:35:57,090 We're on our own. 337 00:35:57,710 --> 00:36:04,590 And I think this question of U.S. Treasury holdings in other people's hands, you know, is a big aspect of it. 338 00:36:04,650 --> 00:36:09,010 So they have to have all of this in mind as they take each one of these steps. 339 00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:10,750 Yeah. 340 00:36:11,530 --> 00:36:16,770 So that leads to a couple of questions, first of which is who is on board with us? 341 00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:18,050 Obviously, you mentioned Russia. 342 00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:22,750 China, India, conversations happening over there. 343 00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:29,690 If they're acting sovereign, maybe they will play ball in the sense it's like, hey, if you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. 344 00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:32,950 We'll do some trade intermittent, maybe not even intermittently. 345 00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:36,170 We'll have good trade deals and you take care of the West. 346 00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:43,270 Obviously, the national security memo that went out this morning, real big focus on the Western hemisphere. 347 00:36:44,330 --> 00:36:47,910 We don't want to get into these foreign wars across the world anymore. 348 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:54,130 we really want to focus on our locality, our geographic locality, and the economies around us. 349 00:36:54,130 --> 00:37:00,250 Who in the Western Hemisphere, in your mind, is excited about this policy positioning? 350 00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:07,910 Well, obviously, we've got Argentina, and the administration is clearly trying to influence 351 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:16,370 things in Honduras. It's a difficult relationship with Mexico, and with many of these countries in 352 00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:22,390 Central and South America, I think people have to be cognizant of the fact that you have almost 353 00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:29,990 dual power situations, right, where you have the narco-traffico cartels with as much, if not more, 354 00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:36,930 power than the governments. So governments have to take that into account, you know, as they make 355 00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:43,230 their negotiations, which is why I think this whole attack on, you know, what friends of mine 356 00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:48,130 many years ago called Dope Incorporated. This whole attack on the drug trafficking, 357 00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:53,530 the money flows that go with it, the terrorism that comes with it, that's going to be foundational 358 00:37:53,530 --> 00:37:59,410 to creating a situation where sovereign nations can actually act in their own interests. 359 00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:06,210 So I think our hemisphere right now is a work in progress. Of course, we're not going to talk 360 00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:10,970 about Canada because that's in the hands of the central banker, central banker, Mark Carney. 361 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:19,410 the mark harney and people i'm sure you've seen the documentary by john titus all plenaries but 362 00:38:19,410 --> 00:38:26,310 um basically mark harney in the center of the hsbc zeta cartel money laundering scheme obviously 363 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:32,850 was the head of the bank of england at one point um yeah the only the only the only foreigner to 364 00:38:32,850 --> 00:38:39,210 ever be head of the bank of england so this man is trusted and the fact that the canadians welcomed 365 00:38:39,210 --> 00:38:43,730 him in with open arms to be their prime minister. Well, not a lot. Not all of them did. And it was 366 00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:48,570 one of those elections with a parliamentary system where you look at the nuances of it. He really is 367 00:38:48,570 --> 00:38:53,370 not that, he doesn't have that much political support. And of course, there's the Western 368 00:38:53,370 --> 00:39:00,010 provinces are not happy. I mean, he's trying to tack in Trump world. So, you know, he's doing 369 00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:06,650 certain concessions in terms of internal flows of energy, which you never had before to try and 370 00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:12,570 keep the Albertans happier, that, you know, they've got some kind of economic development. 371 00:39:12,890 --> 00:39:19,750 But all of this is, I think, just biding time to continue to play his nefarious role, 372 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:25,990 you know, in that circumstance. But at least he's honest, because when he was at the ASEAN 373 00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:33,590 summit about a month ago, he said, the rules-based liberal free trade order is over. 374 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:35,070 They know it. 375 00:39:35,230 --> 00:39:37,010 They know Trump has ended it. 376 00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:41,550 And his job is to quietly try and figure out, well, how much can I sabotage it? 377 00:39:41,830 --> 00:39:45,170 Or how can I set up some kind of other operation? 378 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:51,130 But among the smarter of these guys, or at least the ones that are getting their orders 379 00:39:51,130 --> 00:39:55,950 from the smarters of these guys, they know what they're up against with Trump. 380 00:39:56,750 --> 00:40:01,130 And it'll be always, they always have a two front attack. 381 00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:16,450 You know, the frontal attack, you know, all the political stuff that he's being hit with in terms of the boat strikes, everything else, you know, try and knock out the people he relies on the most, like Hegseth or Tulsi Gabbard or Kash Patel or whatever. 382 00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:39,285 And then you know the quieter okay what are we doing to try and undermine these policies economically and politically in the back room Yeah Well sticking on the narco boats getting taken out I think you had a really good explanation of what the second and third order effects of this are 383 00:40:39,285 --> 00:40:49,025 I think it's important to go over those with the audience who may be looking at this and saying, hey, we're just indiscriminately bombing people in the Atlantic Ocean. 384 00:40:49,025 --> 00:40:56,085 what's going on here. But to your point of doping being a big part of this, there could be a 385 00:40:56,085 --> 00:41:02,925 strategic reason for bombing these boats specifically in terms of the reaction and insights from the 386 00:41:02,925 --> 00:41:11,785 narcos. Yeah. And I was listening to a show the other day and one of the people, a retired general, 387 00:41:12,185 --> 00:41:18,565 Blaine, I'm blocking on his last name, I think it's Holt. He made the point, or maybe it was 388 00:41:18,565 --> 00:41:23,605 Ian Burlingame, I can't remember. But one of them made the point that you look at that carrier group 389 00:41:23,605 --> 00:41:30,685 that's in the Caribbean, the USS Gerald Ford, are they just there for firepower? Or think of the 390 00:41:30,685 --> 00:41:35,945 enormous electronic surveillance that you have. And think of what happens when you bomb one of 391 00:41:35,945 --> 00:41:42,265 those drug boats. You know, the communications lines light up and they're tracking all of this 392 00:41:42,265 --> 00:41:48,925 stuff and putting together a map of how this dope incorporated operation works and tracing 393 00:41:48,925 --> 00:41:54,765 it back to bank accounts and tracing it back to individuals and putting this entire map 394 00:41:54,765 --> 00:41:55,205 together. 395 00:41:55,805 --> 00:42:00,645 So it's like they're hitting at the bottom level of this to illuminate how this thing 396 00:42:00,645 --> 00:42:04,125 operates at the higher and higher levels. 397 00:42:04,945 --> 00:42:06,325 And I think they're dead serious. 398 00:42:06,445 --> 00:42:10,945 And that gets back to Scott Besson saying 40 to 50% of what I do at Treasury is national 399 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:11,505 security. 400 00:42:12,045 --> 00:42:13,265 Well, that's not just tariffs. 401 00:42:13,685 --> 00:42:14,285 That's this. 402 00:42:15,545 --> 00:42:15,645 Yeah. 403 00:42:16,385 --> 00:42:23,325 And so how do you think, do you think the city of London notices that its back is against 404 00:42:23,325 --> 00:42:24,685 the wall and it's going to lay over? 405 00:42:25,905 --> 00:42:28,685 They're going to continue to do everything they can do. 406 00:42:28,685 --> 00:42:34,025 I mean, this thing around Hegseth and the bombing, I mean, if they could, they will 407 00:42:34,025 --> 00:42:37,305 try and turn this into impeachment territory. 408 00:42:37,885 --> 00:42:39,965 And we've got plenty of weak Republicans. 409 00:42:39,965 --> 00:42:43,845 I don't know that they would ever push it to that point over the next year. 410 00:42:44,265 --> 00:42:49,905 But you can bet the, you know, the key nodal point is the midterm elections. 411 00:42:49,905 --> 00:43:00,085 You know, we have to hold the House and hold the Senate and optimally increase our margins, which is hard in an off-year election. 412 00:43:00,405 --> 00:43:05,785 And even harder, make sure more of those Republicans are actually mega Republicans. 413 00:43:05,785 --> 00:43:15,565 But that, to me, the battle over the next year is going to be that, because I think Trump will be able to continue to move. 414 00:43:17,065 --> 00:43:25,785 Legislatively, it'll be much more glacial than, I mean, we got the big, beautiful bill through and Trump was a genius to put all of it in one bill. 415 00:43:27,265 --> 00:43:30,745 You know, maybe he can embarrass enough of these senators to get rid of the filibuster. 416 00:43:30,745 --> 00:43:42,365 But if he doesn't, I don't think you're going to see a whole lot going on legislatively, you know, except on some of these 80-20 issues where people will just burn their congressmen and their senators butts. 417 00:43:43,105 --> 00:43:47,165 He'll continue to move in terms of executive orders in the presidency. 418 00:43:47,525 --> 00:43:52,845 I think we'll begin to see the effect of some of this economic restructuring. 419 00:43:53,245 --> 00:44:00,485 I think people will start to feel, I mean, if people are paying attention, the price of eggs are down, the price of gas is down. 420 00:44:00,745 --> 00:44:04,705 You know, the price of things that Trump has some control over are actually down. 421 00:44:04,885 --> 00:44:10,865 But people need to see jobs and they need to see, you know, a real change in the standard of living. 422 00:44:10,865 --> 00:44:18,985 So, you know, we're going to be in quite a quite a tense year as we go into the midterm elections. 423 00:44:19,245 --> 00:44:26,085 But I think the big hole card for the city of London and the elites is they want to take this Congress away from Trump. 424 00:44:26,085 --> 00:44:32,825 And if they do that, I don't really know what it will look like, but it won't be good. 425 00:44:33,945 --> 00:44:41,925 Well, to that point, like how critical for ensuring that we live in a free and sovereign country is this next year? 426 00:44:42,005 --> 00:44:42,925 Is it make or break? 427 00:44:43,305 --> 00:44:44,585 I think it's make or break. 428 00:44:45,485 --> 00:44:50,525 I mean, I think this is the equivalent of what Lincoln had to do to win the Civil War. 429 00:44:50,525 --> 00:45:09,125 If we had lost that civil war or if Lincoln himself had not been elected in 1861, we wouldn't be sitting here in a great sovereign republic. We'd be a bunch of squabbling, balkanized states. And I think the next year is absolutely critical. 430 00:45:09,125 --> 00:45:19,885 And, you know, what I do with my shows, what I do with my political organizing is just try and educate the MAGA movement so they understand the nature of this fight. 431 00:45:19,885 --> 00:45:34,365 And not only can back up President Trump, but create much more of a bench in terms of people who are running for office at every level, who think this way, who understand this, so that he's got much more maneuvering room. 432 00:45:34,365 --> 00:45:57,585 And we've got a much better chance of keeping people in the MAGA coalition, not being diverted on all of this nonsense, which is being spun up right now, Tucker versus Candace or whatever, you know, and stay focused on what it is Trump is actually doing so that we have an electorate, which is smart enough to make the right choices come next November. 433 00:45:58,805 --> 00:46:01,345 If you're looking at the polling day, it's not looking great right now. 434 00:46:01,645 --> 00:46:04,125 It never does at this stage of the game. 435 00:46:04,365 --> 00:46:11,845 And I think I think the administration realizes they've got to sharpen the message on the economy. 436 00:46:12,085 --> 00:46:20,265 So Peter Navarro was on Bannon a week and a half ago and Bannon said, you know, did you jump the gun on the Golden Age? 437 00:46:20,385 --> 00:46:27,065 Like, it's not here. You know, it's coming. And and Navarro said, yeah, we got the memo. 438 00:46:27,065 --> 00:46:37,185 And so he's been doing, you know, on his sub stack, he's doing really good educationals in terms of this is where inflation comes from in this sector. 439 00:46:37,365 --> 00:46:41,945 And this is what we're doing. J.D. Vance, I think, is taking the point on a lot of this. 440 00:46:42,045 --> 00:46:46,925 And Trump is going on the road. That's that's the best way you can do it. 441 00:46:47,245 --> 00:46:56,125 You send the man out there to talk directly to the American people about how you actually recreate an actual American economy. 442 00:46:56,125 --> 00:47:02,025 And I think as that kicks in, we'll see the poll numbers get back to something we can work with. 443 00:47:02,465 --> 00:47:07,225 Not that I necessarily trust polls all that much, but there's something out there. 444 00:47:08,585 --> 00:47:08,705 Yeah. 445 00:47:11,505 --> 00:47:14,545 How did you get into this in the first place? 446 00:47:15,305 --> 00:47:17,025 It's a really long story. 447 00:47:18,805 --> 00:47:22,065 I've been political pretty much since I was hatched. 448 00:47:22,065 --> 00:47:28,845 I campaigned for Bobby Kennedy Sr. in 1968, and I was in California when he was shot. 449 00:47:30,185 --> 00:47:39,305 So, you know, I went through the, I saw the devolution of the United States coming out of those assassinations. 450 00:47:40,005 --> 00:47:47,305 And in the early 1970s, I ran into a man named Lyndon LaRouche, who you or some of your viewers may be familiar with, 451 00:47:47,305 --> 00:47:53,145 who was a physical economist and who pretty much saw where all of this was going. 452 00:47:53,625 --> 00:47:55,005 I was very much of a maverick. 453 00:47:55,005 --> 00:48:00,665 He passed away a few years ago, and some of us took a different direction from those who 454 00:48:00,665 --> 00:48:05,245 are still affiliated with his widow, Helga Zepp-LaRouche, who for legal reasons, I have 455 00:48:05,245 --> 00:48:06,385 to say, I have nothing to do with. 456 00:48:07,245 --> 00:48:12,005 But, you know, I sort of have lived in the world of being in a maverick organization 457 00:48:12,005 --> 00:48:13,145 all my life. 458 00:48:13,245 --> 00:48:14,705 And then along comes Donald Trump. 459 00:48:15,305 --> 00:48:17,125 So that made it kind of easy. 460 00:48:17,305 --> 00:48:41,665 Well, I guess the last question I ask is, is economics, monetary, fiscal policy. I mean, there's many who believe, I mean, bringing it back to Scott Besson, he had the now infamous fireside chat at the Manhattan Institute, I believe in July of 2024, in which he said, hey, there's a global economic reordering underway. 461 00:48:41,665 --> 00:48:51,105 and I would like to be part of the team that is trying to advise the president on how to navigate this global monetary reordering. 462 00:48:52,365 --> 00:48:55,865 What does the monetary system look at? 463 00:48:55,865 --> 00:49:05,805 There's a lot of talk that the perceived independence of the Fed, which is very hand wavy, is going to be completely demarcated 464 00:49:05,805 --> 00:49:10,605 and that the Treasury is going to take over monetary policy completely. 465 00:49:11,985 --> 00:49:17,845 What are you seeing in terms of the transition we have financially, 466 00:49:18,205 --> 00:49:20,725 particularly how the monetary plumbing works? 467 00:49:21,585 --> 00:49:25,425 Well, yeah, I think Besson just this week said, you know, 468 00:49:25,465 --> 00:49:29,045 we want to basically cut back the mission of the Fed and so on. 469 00:49:29,105 --> 00:49:33,125 I think to the extent that they can do things administratively, 470 00:49:33,125 --> 00:49:39,025 you know, through executive orders and so on, they are going to try and, you know, 471 00:49:39,445 --> 00:49:46,365 reduce the negative impact of the Fed as much as possible. But I think the interesting thing 472 00:49:46,365 --> 00:49:49,865 they're doing, because everybody's looking over here at the Fed, well, let's look over here 473 00:49:49,865 --> 00:49:56,885 at the alternate lines of financial flows that they're setting up. You know, when Trump first 474 00:49:56,885 --> 00:50:03,105 came in, he did put out an EO saying, let's look at a sovereign wealth fund. I think what they've 475 00:50:03,105 --> 00:50:11,725 done is rather than one single new institution, first of all, they've got 18 to 20 trillion dollars 476 00:50:11,725 --> 00:50:16,345 of foreign investment coming into the United States, which is going to be directly channeled 477 00:50:16,345 --> 00:50:23,105 into productive investment, into steel plants, into shipbuilding, into nuclear power. A lot of 478 00:50:23,105 --> 00:50:28,365 it will go into AI, but that means a lot of it needs to go into power generation and other things. 479 00:50:28,365 --> 00:50:47,845 So it's sort of like they're just creating an alternative to the Fed. And there's institutions inside various departments, which are kind of like little reconstruction finance corporations, especially in energy and others, where they can again begin to channel credit into the real economy. 480 00:50:47,845 --> 00:51:04,585 I think the important thing that they're doing, however far they can move in terms of restructuring things institutionally between the Treasury and the Fed, is just figuring out how do we start getting credit into the productive sector? 481 00:51:05,185 --> 00:51:07,905 And I think what they're doing is absolutely masterful. 482 00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:12,245 And it's not, oh, I'm going to introduce a bill tomorrow morning to get rid of the Fed. 483 00:51:12,625 --> 00:51:14,825 Yeah, you and what Congress is going to do that? 484 00:51:14,825 --> 00:51:20,805 You know, I mean, we're two, three cycles away from a Congress, I think, that would even consider something like that. 485 00:51:21,165 --> 00:51:22,825 Well, let's not wring our hands. 486 00:51:23,445 --> 00:51:26,205 Let's just figure out how do we get done what we need to get done. 487 00:51:26,585 --> 00:51:30,925 And I think as people begin to see, wait a minute, there's a different way to do this. 488 00:51:31,445 --> 00:51:35,285 This may still be over here, but over here, some really good stuff is happening. 489 00:51:35,805 --> 00:51:41,585 You begin to lay the political basis for perhaps ultimately getting rid of the Federal Reserve. 490 00:51:42,365 --> 00:51:48,385 But again, from where I sit politically, we're election cycles away from having an election 491 00:51:48,385 --> 00:51:50,025 cycle to do something like that. 492 00:51:50,225 --> 00:51:51,845 It's like people who say, well, get out of NATO. 493 00:51:52,165 --> 00:51:53,465 Yeah, well, you and what Congress? 494 00:51:53,945 --> 00:51:55,405 Congress has to approve that. 495 00:51:56,985 --> 00:52:03,165 So give this administration credit for doing what they're doing, recognizing that there 496 00:52:03,165 --> 00:52:07,605 are certain things legislatively or institutionally they may not be able to do immediately. 497 00:52:08,425 --> 00:52:11,125 And so just take the ground that you can while it's there. 498 00:52:11,125 --> 00:52:26,805 And there's a lot of it. There's a lot of it when you actually want to do what Trump wants to do, which is reshore manufacturing, create real jobs and stop the wars. There's a lot he can do without turning the switch off on either the Fed or NATO. 499 00:52:26,805 --> 00:52:34,645 Mm hmm. Susan, this has been incredibly insightful. Thank you for your time. Before we leave, 500 00:52:34,645 --> 00:52:40,845 is there anything we didn't touch on that you think is pressing? Any final notes? 501 00:52:40,845 --> 00:52:46,185 Well, I would just say to your viewers, you know, what I said is this question of the midterms, 502 00:52:46,185 --> 00:52:52,205 and it's really critical that people are informed, are active, are smart, 503 00:52:52,205 --> 00:52:59,745 are engaged as much as they possibly can with one single mission, which is we have to defend 504 00:52:59,745 --> 00:53:06,505 Donald Trump, whatever form that takes. And in some cases, it may just be, we just have to get 505 00:53:06,505 --> 00:53:11,065 the Republican elected, whether he's good, bad, or indifferent. In other cases, it's going to be, 506 00:53:11,065 --> 00:53:16,125 we're going to get a really good candidate. You know, this is, you know, this is battlefront 507 00:53:16,125 --> 00:53:21,825 decisions that people are going to have to make, but people have to be engaged politically and not 508 00:53:21,825 --> 00:53:27,205 just sitting there doom scrolling the latest social media scandal. Doom scrolling is very 509 00:53:27,205 --> 00:53:33,925 popular these days. It's very popular. It's bad for your... And we have an antidote for doom 510 00:53:33,925 --> 00:53:39,585 scrolling at prometheanaction.com. So I encourage people to head over there and see what we have to 511 00:53:39,585 --> 00:53:46,105 offer. We will link to that in the show notes. Again, Susan, thank you for your time. Thank you 512 00:53:46,105 --> 00:53:51,305 for your work. And hopefully we can do this at some point again in the future. Sure. Hope so too. 513 00:53:51,825 --> 00:53:52,245 All right. 514 00:53:52,345 --> 00:53:52,525 Peace. 515 00:53:52,565 --> 00:53:53,025 Love freaks.