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You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

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You talk about a Fed just gone nuts.

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All the central banks going nuts.

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So it's all acting like safe haven.

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I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

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currency, Bitcoin wins.

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In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

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I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.

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If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

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Mark Mitchell, we're cooked.

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Yeah, I think so. I think that's the diagnosis. We're freaking cooked.

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You know, here we are with the middle class being hollowed out, all of America's jobs being sent overseas.

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the most pro H1B person on the planet, Elon Musk, screaming at people to procreate while giving away the salaries that they need to do it to the rest of the world.

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And a White House that's putting out tweets about how they stopped inflation when the American dream was shipped overseas.

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It's like, you know, I gave them that message at the White House.

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Like you'd probably need to actually address the underlying fundamental issues and actually explain to people how the Republican Party can fix that.

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Or we're all going to be socialists.

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And right now it looks like it's the socialist thing.

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So.

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Well, since you mentioned, I didn't know if you were willing to talk about it, but we were supposed to record last week.

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But you had an emergency trip to the White House to try to talk some sense to the administration because over the last few months specifically.

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But even last year during the election, I think that's when I found you'd started following you more closely.

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it seems like you have your finger on the pulse of the sentiment,

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particularly in younger generations.

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And that's one thing that I like how you phrase it,

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like polling Rasmussen.

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You don't understand what everyone is thinking.

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It's like, why are they actually thinking it?

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And I think over the last month,

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particularly with your crusade on X sharing the DMs

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that you've been receiving from younger generations,

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It's really highlighted why the sentiment has collapsed for this particular administration.

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I mean, we're at the end of the fourth turning and we can get into what that is for people

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who don't know what it is.

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But basically, in my opinion, all of our institutions have been corrupted.

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Society is fraying.

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People are increasingly divisive.

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They don't understand what the problems are.

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And unfortunately, for our politicians who have to solve those problems, you kind of

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have to have your head on a swivel and be smart about what people are saying beneath the numbers.

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Just to step back, though, like we're often slandered as being right wing or Republican

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pollsters. I'm an independent pollster, which means that I'm not on the payroll of either party.

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And I'm just looking out for the voters. And what's weird is that we're pretty much like the

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only people in the political industry who are doing that. Like literally everybody has a lobbyist,

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except for the people, the think tanks and the parties are supposed to be that,

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but they've been completely corrupted by special interests. And so when a White House asks me to

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come to the Oval Office to talk about economic messaging, that's a pretty big deal because that's

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like actually a lobbyist for the people being able to go down there. And they can't fire me.

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They can't cut off my business because they never paid me anything. And it's like, I've been doing

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this honest polling as a charity. The rest of the industry is really hopelessly corrupt. Like

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Rich Barris is good. Trafalgar, Matt Towery are good. That's basically it. Everybody else is

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just shilling for special interests in the establishment. And, you know, polling gets

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misused to protect things like the H-1B program, which has been one of the boots on the throats of

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the American people. So I went down there and, you know, I think part of it is because sort of

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JD gets all this. And I think Trump does too, but he's surrounded by all of the same kind of people.

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You know what I mean? It's like his donors, Fox News talking heads. And it's wild that there seems

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to be such a dividing line in the polling at the age 50, where under 50 people just totally think

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differently than people above 50. And it's partly news consumption. It's partly this generational

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divide between the values that people were grown up with. But the under 50 people are going to win.

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It's just a matter of time. And so you see a lot of like rebelling against the old ways of doing

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things. I think Israel is a very good example because the younger voters completely on opposite

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and ends of the spectrum than the older voters. And unfortunately, Trump is surrounded by a lot

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of older interests, billionaires, you know, traditional Republicans, all the think tanks

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that have been in DC that have done things a certain way for decades. And Sean Hannity,

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you know, Mark Levin, like Lindsey Graham, these are the voices in his ear. And they're,

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I think they know that and they're trying to get other voices in like Charlie Kirk,

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I think was a big influence. But unfortunately, you know, in Trump one, kind of the way they did

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things was to throw things at a wall and see what sticks. Well, we're 10 years farther down the late

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stage capitalist timeline and it's the music starting to stop. Like there we do, we need much

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more aggressive fixes. And like I said, you know, I think that the Democrats at least have a product

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offering. They're all offering is democratic socialism. Republicans are still trying to like

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sell you sort of like glammed up Mitt Romney.

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Trickle down.

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It's going to happen.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, totally.

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We're going to cut taxes on these major corporations.

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And trust me, bro, it'll make your life better.

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This is perplexing considering this.

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I mean, 2016, I was 25 at the time in the lead up to that election.

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And obviously 2020 happened in four years of Biden.

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And then last year's election and my observation of Trump over the last decade, it seems that one of his strong points is that he's had his finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist, especially when campaigning.

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And in Trump one, I think that was the biggest disappointment as he got in the office and sort of lost touch with the zeitgeist.

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And I think a lot of people are feeling miffed this time around because it was like, OK, round two campaigning still has its finger on the Zyke.

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It's going to be different this time.

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There's going to be new people in there.

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But meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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We got fooled again.

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Yeah, yeah.

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All the all the groopers are passing around that fell for it again.

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Meme, you know, I mean, it's it is kind of like that.

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And, you know, I can't blame it all on him.

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So back in Trump one, again, the bar was a lot lower and Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate and the system didn't suck as bad for everybody.

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Like there hadn't been 10 years of like literally DEI discrimination in the workplace.

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Ten years of offshoring has done a lot.

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The post-COVID economy was is really bad.

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And then on the cherry on top, obviously, was the Biden inflation.

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I feel like the Biden administration was kind of like, you know, at the end of the Roman Empire where they plunder the treasury.

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That's kind of what like the Biden administration probably was.

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And so everybody hated Biden.

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It was wild that we went through this period of mass formation where Biden really did, despite the fraud, turn out a lot of voters.

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He got a lot of people interested in politics because they thought that Trump was the chaos and that the system and the adults can be put back in charge and restore order.

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Like fundamentally, my thesis is that people just want order.

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And so what was wild to see Trump, who was down in our polls, like six points nationally, to then less than a year later, be winning by 10, like a 16 point swing in politics is unbelievable.

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Everybody thought that Biden was going to save him.

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It was a complete rickroll.

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And, you know, there were chanting in stadiums, FJB, like just a year later.

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And so now the Biden administration was so bad, like you had the mandates, you had all the discrimination, you had the big bailout bills, you had all the blatant and obvious corruption, the censorship, like it was really bad.

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And then Trump basically wins on blowback for that.

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Like he didn't really have a unified message.

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It was like, hey, we're going to fix the border crisis and some other things.

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And then he got shot and he's like, fight, fight, fight.

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And everybody's like, yeah, that's my guy.

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But there was never really this like fight, fight, fight for what? If you like you go back and look at Mike Johnson's like transcripts from early November last year. And it was like, we're going to get gas prices down and get wokeness out of the schools. And it wasn't like there was no unified like now we're going to deliver on X. And here we are a year later and everybody's like, well, why wasn't X delivered on?

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Well, it's like, that's a good question. But the Republican Party wasn't there again to fill that vacuum with product offering. They just they've it's the conservatives. They've conserved nothing. And now they're trying to conserve conservatism. But in my opinion, conservatism is almost like a luxury belief at this point. It's like, what is that really what we're going to do? We're just going to keep like praying to free market capitalism and hope that this time it'll finally fix it all.

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no, they're, you know, we've been through the offshoring layoffs. Then we went through the

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H1B layoffs. Well, the AI layoffs are coming. And so if you can't solve that problem, then

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people are literally going to vote for universal basic income. I've done the polling and everybody

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in Washington, DC is like, Oh, under 40 voters are so conservative. We're finally winning on the

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ideals. Like, no, you're going to lose. They, even the ones that voted for Trump are socialists.

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They just they just want order. They just want their problems fixed. And they are totally happy with voting with Mondami because you said you were going to burn the system down and they saw what you were doing with Doge. They liked it. And then you rug pulled them. There's another rug pull.

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and it's funny too because the sort of vision they're painting and really leaning into is the

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ai revolution which i'm a technologist i use ai i think there is something there but to your point

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i think the reckoning with the disruption to the job market that's going to bring

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is completely necessary there has to be a conversation has to be done tactfully

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but as we earlier this week the genesis project was laid out it's like okay we're going to double

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down on this and then on top of that you already have leaders of the ai industry and even the ai

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czar crypto and ars are david sachs basically alluding to the fact that this is going to be

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backstopped by the government and so we're going to fund your replacement

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and they wonder why their economic messaging isn't doing great

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It's like people can't afford things.

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And you're saying, well, you know, look at this boom of investment.

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We're going to be the future of AI.

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And everybody's like, well, you're just going to take our jobs.

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Like my taxpayer money is funding the thing that will kill me.

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And I don't think people want universal basic income.

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I don't think people want to live in the pods and eat the bugs.

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But it's like, again, there's no product offering at all.

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And it's like Trump is leaning into I said these words to him.

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I said a lot to him, but one of the things that I definitely underscored was like, there is an oligarchy here. It's in charge and not everybody knows it, but they feel these forces. And there's a lot of opportunity to smash the oligarchy instead of like being surrounded by it and being a part of it.

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And I think that that again, we're in a point where I don't think there's any easy answers,

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but people hate big businesses even more than they hate the government.

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And Donald Trump won because people hate the government.

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It's not, it was not Kamala Harris.

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It was Biden's government.

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And the fact that trust in the federal government got down to only 30%.

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Kamala Harris had 49% trust.

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You know, she won the vote of half the country, 30% trust in the government.

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And she was the government candidate.

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And so they voted for Trump and Trump's like, okay, cool.

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well, now I'm the government guy.

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And, you know, I don't know.

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when Vivek put out that thread and then Elon sort of popped on it as well,

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really engendering the spirit of this is a good thing.

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We need to lean into this.

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Americans are stupid and lazy.

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And I think that's been one of the most astonishing things that I've seen on

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which is big business basically using this loophole to import cheap indentured slave labor essentially

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and not only that but the the whole idea that the talent doesn't exist here in america we need to

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import it i think is objectively false the end products that come out these companies are

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typically way worse than they were before this program existed yeah i should tweet something

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about that. I mean, I came out of the tech industry most recently and I worked at a big

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in Walmart e-commerce and objectively the cultural aspects of the Indian engineering that they import

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create significant amounts of customer friction. This is a high power distance culture where

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problems are buried because nobody wants to get fired. And my job was to unbury the problems.

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And they were if you've ordered on Walmart and your orders got messed up, they sent you the wrong item.

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It got lost. It's blah, blah, blah.

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There's a four or five chance that it was because of technology problems caused by legacy systems and bad engineering and low quality control.

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And that's happening, I think, at every major Fortune 500.

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And systematically, this is like part of the political calculus that I think most people under 40 fundamentally know and that everybody in D.C. is just like completely retarded on.

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And so if you look at H-1Bs, the program is actually really popular.

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People love the H-1B program.

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It's like 65 to 30 or something like that.

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And that's because I think fundamentally people are still like sort of coded to like immigration and they like the idea of taking talent from other countries.

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But then if you ask them, well, OK, do corporations really need this talent or are the corporations gaming it?

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Last time we checked, it was 48 to 38, I think.

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And then if you give them the Laura Ingraham quote that we have the talent and we don't need to flood the country with labor from everywhere else, they're like, hell yeah.

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we don't do that like two to one. So the problem in DC is that they'll just take the headline that

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everybody loves the H1B program because it allows them to like help their corporate interests.

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They can say, Hey, like I can help you out. We'll do this. And the corporations do this.

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And it's so much more pervasive. So you have all these people where there's real high severity

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because they had to train their own replacement. But then it's even worse because it's like this

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boot of discrimination on everybody's throat. Um, people don't talk about this a lot. The H1B

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in my opinion, a lot of it isn't just the lower wages. It isn't just the subservient workforce

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because you're holding, you know, going back to your country over people's heads.

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I think it's also used in order to lower blended healthcare costs for these employer plans.

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Because if you want to replace the old people with the young people, well, it helps to have

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a bottomless well of young people. And they don't even do the math that I like Walmart's,

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I think Walmart's engineering is over 60% foreign national now.

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Biggest company in the US by revenue and over 60%.

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And that's a national security threat.

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If you think about it too, this is happening at Google.

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It's happening at Microsoft.

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It's happening at most of the banking industries have given their technology over to the rest of the country.

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And the Republicans are like, sweet, this is great.

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My donors love it.

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And again, it's a popular program.

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But anybody who's touched it, who's tried to get a resume through an HR Karen, like just knows that this is manipulated.

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These people lie on resumes.

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And then and so when Trump comes out and he uses billionaire talking points to defend the program.

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That's like the biggest failure of not understanding the core base and their needs.

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And unfortunately for them, they don't like to acknowledge the fact that a lot of their core base is young men under 40 who have been the doormat of society for the last 10 years.

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They've literally been pariahs of the, they've been political pariahs and the Republican

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party won't embrace those people.

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They'll turn their backs on those people because of like some stuff about Israel.

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And it's like, that's the problem.

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Like you're going to, you're going to lose.

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There's going to be major political upheaval because these people are still being driven

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to extremist situations.

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And, uh, you know, you talked about the horseshoe, the horseshoe theory of politics is a real

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thing.

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On the right, this one's wild. It'll blow your mind. We've polled a lot about voters under 40. And in the last set, we asked people, well, you know, AI is getting more advanced and people are frustrated with government. Would you support giving control of government, governance and lawmaking in the United States to an advanced artificial intelligence?

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And it was like 41 to 50, I think. But the people who supported it most were conservatives,

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under 40 conservatives were like, yes, please put us out of our misery. Just let the AI take over.

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We had another question about would you give control of the military to AI?

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And under 40 conservatives are like, yep, by a plurality that they're like, let's build Skynet.

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Let's just get it over with. It's just wild. And these people and they're being completely ignored.

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They're, oh, it's just a couple of Groypers.

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Like, no, there's about five to 10 million of them.

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And they were the initial core of the reason Trump got elected in 2016.

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But like, and again, this is just wild because like anybody who watches Asmongold or like

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the shoe on head, just put a really great video out.

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Like anybody on the internet, like fundamentally kind of gets this.

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And every single human I've talked to in Washington, DC just has no idea at all.

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It's, it's just a disconnect is so bleak.

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They are not serving the people.

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were they shocked when you were bringing them this information?

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So I had, well, I went down there, I co-hosted a war room and then I had like three meetings.

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So I did the white house and literally nothing I said was anything that was a surprise to JD Vance.

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So that was good. Uh, like he gets it. He, he was the one that's trying to bring more voices in.

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And I think Trump gets a lot of it too, but again, he's surrounded by Fox news,

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talking heads and billionaires. And then I went to the RNC and I wasn't there long. Joe Grutter

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seems like a nice guy. I was told that Joe Grutter is more of like a MAGA loyalist than prior people

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were there. But the organization itself just seemed kind of like out of touch. Like I got this very,

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Hey, we have the right message and we have the right set of values. So we just need to vote

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harder. And it's like, no, no, you're going to lose. And then I went to the Capitol Partnership

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Institute, Conservative Partnership Institute. It was like a nonprofit think tank. I think it's

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Mark Meadows set it up. And the idea is to like, take the youth Republican staffers and feed them

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into this hopper of like true conservatism, I guess. And this is so there was like about 40 people

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in their, in their twenties, mostly who are supposed to be like the core conservative in

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Washington, DC. And I feel like they really wanted to hear my message. I spoke a lot about

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the fourth turning about burning, burn it down politics about how the right is outclassed and

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how long-term everybody's wants to go socially, blah, blah, blah. And they were open and receptive

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to my conversation, but I could tell they hadn't really heard it very much. And none of them are

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fighting the info war that none of these people are on the internet at all. They're super, super

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like afraid that they'll say something that will get back to them in a Senate confirmation hearing

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or something. So like even the conservative in Washington, DC doesn't really necessarily

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represent and, and, and conservative in Washington, DC really still does mean this like economic

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libertarian, uh, social conservative aspect that is an offshoot of like old heritage foundation and

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stuff like that. So like they're changing, they're trying to change. I think I can see the initial

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steps, but it's just so glacial when it's up against a very smart and unified machine.

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I think the Democrats are starting to realize that they, they can actually win without being

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insane. Like, I don't know why they were ever like that, but you know, like that's, I hate to

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be kind of reductive with a lot of this stuff, but I think the polling backs it up is that the

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Democrats really will just win by not being retarded. If they stopped backing the climate

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change stuff so hard, they stopped with all the gay stuff and literally were just like,

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hey, kitchen table stuff. Maybe it wasn't smart to try to say we should defund the police.

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They would just win because they have a brand advantage. They control the institutions and

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government. They're actually positioned in many ways to deliver better than the Republican Party

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is because the Republican Party is just completely ceded control to the Democrats. And obviously,

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the Democrats have done it by like, you know, arbitraging taxpayer money into NGOs and centralizing

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everything and having a ubiquitous message and punishing people that didn't toe the line.

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get anything done.

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It's just complete asymmetry where the left is this just organized machine that again,

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I don't know why it's been as weird as it has, but it I think it's going to learn from that.

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And you just look, they're embracing their youth movement and the Republicans aren't.

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Democrats are becoming increasingly socialist and Republicans are very conservative.

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But what you know what I mean?

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Like the socialist wing of the Democratic Party is their youth movement and it's being leaned into.

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They're starting to get that now.

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Like Chuck Schumer is the old way.

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He's going to go away.

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Nancy Pelosi is gone.

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it's going to be like the squad and mum Donnie.

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It's going to be people like that.

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It's going to end to be honest with you.

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When I've done the head to heads,

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JD Vance pulls very well.

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The only person,

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and it was a couple of months ago,

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but the only person that ever beat him in a matchup so far,

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Bernie Sanders.

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and driven entirely by his name recognition with the youth because they think

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that he will change things.

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So I think JD Vance has a good message too.

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Again, the problem is, is that it's not the message of the Republican Party.

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And to your point about the Democrats, if they wise up and distill everything to kitchen table politics,

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if you just look at Mom Donnie's campaign, particularly the social media aspect of it,

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and they're able to apply that to whoever they want within the party, it's going to be game over.

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If they can apply that kitchen table Democratic politic in the way in which Mom Donnie did on TikTok

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and all the social platforms.

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It's not going to end well.

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Yeah, it's just really weird.

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And the right is like fiddling on the Titanic

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because they'll pound their chests about conservatism

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and traditional values and individualism

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and like all this stuff, right?

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what's better, capitalism or socialism?

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And everybody says capitalism still, even under 40.

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They say, yeah, capitalism is obviously a better system. And then the under 40 Trump voters, three quarters of them want to nationalize major industries. Almost 60 percent of them want excess wealth confiscation. You know what I mean? So it's like they like capitalism. They just they know we don't have it. And so, of course, they're going to vote for a Democrat socialist. Like, why wouldn't you? Let's try something new. Old way isn't working. Let's try something new.

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and like all of DC is just going to be blindsided by this major political shift.

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Like, I think there's a very big age aspect. It's probably even worse than the Republican party.

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But when you look at everybody in Congress and the Senate, 60% of them are boomers and only 14%

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of them are millennials. So that number is going to change over the next 10 years, a lot, like a

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lot. Boomers is probably going to be down to like 30%. Millennials is probably going to be up to like

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40, 45. Then you throw the zoomers in there, they're going to get pretty close to half soon.

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So you're going to see things like a whole nother look at social safety nets.

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So when you bring these things up online it really fascinating in my opinion And this gets back to the fourth turning stuff is like when you look at the responses in the arguments it very easy to spot a boomer response

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And unfortunately, the Republican Party is basically the boomer party,

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very much still controlled by those types of people. And what they say about the under 40s is,

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well, they just need to work as hard as I did, or they need to like walk their resume up to the

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the boss and hand it to him personally, because that worked for me back in 1972.

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Why can't they just move to a different town?

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Or maybe they need to take on another job or while, you know,

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just stop taking the medication and maybe you won't be so crazy.

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You know what I mean? It's like, it's like that kind of thing.

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And I see it all the time and I try and push back and it's like, you know,

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you're not helping, you're not helping. Well, it was tough for us.

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You know what I mean? We, here's the one that gets me. It's like, well, you know,

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I paid into social security and it's like, okay,

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but these people aren't going to have social security and they're still paying

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for yours. So I wouldn't talk about your social security check.

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I would pretend that like, it doesn't just be quiet about that. You know,

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have you heard about the day of the pillow?

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I have heard people tweeting about, but I haven't dove into it.

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it's like 4chan green text lore uh that millennials apparently have and i'm like i'm like right on the

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edge between x and millennial so i'm a zennial i kind of call myself like switzerland in this

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whole thing like i don't have a side but the 4chan text was about how all of these boomers that had

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like a really really great run in america you know and they'll say they didn't but they did

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They really did. They grew up in a great time. They had a really great corporate experience.

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You know, sure, some of them got sent to NOM. That was bad. But they got to experience like

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the good parts of society fraying, which is like, you know, breaking out and experiencing all this

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new stuff and not really any of the bad parts. And they're going to get the full. They're going

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to get the full social safety net treatment. They're getting the best that Medicare, Medicaid,

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and Social Security has to offer. Great retirements, awesome health care. Think about

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the healthcare technology boom that's going to extend the life of boomers that our country can't

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afford to supply to the millennials and Gen Z. And they'll say, well, I paid this. So the green

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text is basically about all these boomers sitting around in nursing homes that are going to be

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staffed with legal aliens that the boomers brought in. And some immigrant who has no ties to the

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country and no financial future who finally just puts a pillow over their face. It's really dark

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in the, uh, in the home, you know, after they strip mind America, but you know, again, it's dark,

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but what's that has morphed into is that there will come a time in the next 10 to 15 years where

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the zoomers and millennials will have the political power to, to shut off the social safety nets or

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make a major change or redistribute wealth or whatever. And we're kind of on that cusp now

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because in the white house, for instance, you know, housing market is a crisis, crisis levels.

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They say it's a crisis in the polling, the, the under 40 voters, like 75% said it was a crisis.

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Only it's only in the teens that said no. And most of them think they'll never be able to like

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get a house. And then that's backed up by the data. The national association of realtors put

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out the first time home buyer chart went above 40 for the very first time, like right on election

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day. And it's just shooting up. So basically right now our real estate markets, it's just boomers

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selling houses to boomers. And, you know, I go to the white house and I say, well, you got to stop

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talking about like Turkey because people can't afford a house to put the Turkey in. And he's

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like, well, yeah, you know, but a lot of people, a lot of people really are worried about those

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home values and they want to keep them up. I'm like, well, yeah, I agree with you, but you need

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to get the vote of the under 40s and the housing market is a deal breaker for them. And so I said,

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like what would have maybe been prudent is a controlled detonation in the housing market.

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And that would have actually been a wealth transfer. It would have been a generational

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wealth transfer. It would have destroyed the paper gains on boomer balance sheets and transferred

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like, you know, assets that the whole new generation could grow into. And that's not

410
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even on the radar. Like that, that's not even, and it's because you put Bill Pulte in charge of

411
00:32:00,645 --> 00:32:06,825
housing, you put bankers in charge of banking and like the Bill Pulte plan. It's a joke.

412
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:14,305
Your mortgage is insulting. It was like Jamie Dimon and the like home builder lobby built the

413
00:32:14,305 --> 00:32:20,625
best plan to not only is it not a solution, it makes things worse. So it increases demand for

414
00:32:20,625 --> 00:32:26,145
housing without increasing supply. We all know what happens when you do that, right? Pricing goes

415
00:32:26,145 --> 00:32:31,505
up even better, which is better for who's that better for bankers, home builders, investors,

416
00:32:31,505 --> 00:32:37,525
and boomers. And then the people, the zoomers that do get into the market are going to be

417
00:32:37,525 --> 00:32:45,145
buying in at the peak, helping a boomer cash out, right? And then saddling them with 50 years of

418
00:32:45,145 --> 00:32:49,765
being underwater, right? And, and then they're going to pay more interest to the banks, like

419
00:32:49,765 --> 00:32:55,425
literally everybody wins, but the under 40 voter and Bill Pulte might be a nice guy, but like,

420
00:32:55,465 --> 00:33:00,985
you should fire that guy. Like that was dumb. And you like, you had one shot to do this right. And

421
00:33:00,985 --> 00:33:07,365
again, you got to smash the oligarchy, not be the oligarchy. And, and, and, and I think most people

422
00:33:07,365 --> 00:33:12,645
don't understand the deeper problems here, but when the entire internet is laughing at you,

423
00:33:12,645 --> 00:33:18,705
like there's, there's a problem. And I mean, the memetic framing of it alone,

424
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:20,665
You have Trump next to FDR.

425
00:33:21,005 --> 00:33:28,365
It's like, hey, buddy, don't you realize that that was the guy that incited all this welfare state nonsense that we have to put up with today?

426
00:33:28,905 --> 00:33:29,505
That's right.

427
00:33:29,665 --> 00:33:37,945
And you know what Mom Donnie is going to be if they, you know, wave the magic wand and find out he has a birth certificate from like Des Moines or something?

428
00:33:38,525 --> 00:33:44,085
What they're going to what they're going to do with that guy is try and make him into the next FDR, which is even more ironic.

429
00:33:44,085 --> 00:33:44,485
Right.

430
00:33:45,745 --> 00:33:48,265
And I mean, I was even taking my swipes at it.

431
00:33:48,265 --> 00:33:58,765
I said Trump's plan for affordability was the was three year loans for turkeys for Thanksgiving with no money down three year loans for the turkey.

432
00:33:59,345 --> 00:34:02,945
And people were like, I don't know, I might have to trade down to a chicken this year.

433
00:34:03,185 --> 00:34:09,145
It's like it's so I mean, it's like a private deal with after pay.

434
00:34:09,205 --> 00:34:10,745
Don't worry. We're going to get you the best rates.

435
00:34:11,305 --> 00:34:12,445
It's no.

436
00:34:12,945 --> 00:34:15,765
Except freaks. Been seeing a lot of YouTube comments.

437
00:34:15,765 --> 00:34:17,045
Marty, your skin looks so good.

438
00:34:17,045 --> 00:34:22,225
you're looking fit these days how are you doing it well number one I'm going to the gym more

439
00:34:22,225 --> 00:34:28,465
trying to get my swell on trying to be a good example for my young son's a fit

440
00:34:28,465 --> 00:34:33,505
healthy dad but part of that is having a good regimen particularly staying hydrated making sure

441
00:34:33,505 --> 00:34:39,625
I have the right electrolytes and salts in my body that is why I use salt of the earth I drink

442
00:34:39,625 --> 00:34:45,385
probably three of these a day with one packet of salt the earth I'm like in the pink lemonade right

443
00:34:45,385 --> 00:34:50,605
now. It's my flavor of choice. This is their creatine. I've added this to my regimen. They

444
00:34:50,605 --> 00:34:55,325
have it in these packets as well. Makes it extremely convenient if you're traveling. You

445
00:34:55,325 --> 00:34:58,765
want to work out while you're traveling, but you don't want to be carrying a white bag of powder

446
00:34:58,765 --> 00:35:05,145
going through TSA. It's very, very nerve wracking at times. You have to explain hates. It's not what

447
00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:09,885
you think it is. It's creatine. I'm trying to get my swell on. Make sure you're staying hydrated.

448
00:35:09,885 --> 00:35:12,645
I have become addicted to these

449
00:35:12,645 --> 00:35:14,685
it's made my life

450
00:35:14,685 --> 00:35:15,765
a lot better

451
00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:18,825
I can supplement this for coffee in the morning

452
00:35:18,825 --> 00:35:20,165
and be energized right away

453
00:35:20,165 --> 00:35:21,445
I can supplement

454
00:35:21,445 --> 00:35:24,125
I can bring the koreatine wherever I need to

455
00:35:24,125 --> 00:35:25,405
just put a couple packets in here

456
00:35:25,405 --> 00:35:27,125
before I head to the gym

457
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:27,965
bring this to the gym

458
00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:29,005
drink out of a glass bottle

459
00:35:29,005 --> 00:35:31,705
make sure I'm not injecting any microplastics

460
00:35:31,705 --> 00:35:32,805
into my body

461
00:35:32,805 --> 00:35:34,785
go to drinksauté.com

462
00:35:34,785 --> 00:35:36,045
use the code TFTC

463
00:35:36,045 --> 00:35:38,885
and you'll get 15% off anything in the store

464
00:35:38,885 --> 00:35:39,805
that's drinksauté

465
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dot com code TFTC. All this. And like I said, before we hit record, it's as a millennial in

466
00:35:45,725 --> 00:35:53,805
my mid thirties, young family about to buy my first house. And I'm fortunate that I'm going

467
00:35:53,805 --> 00:35:59,045
to be able to do so. But I think it took too long for me to get to this point. And you look at

468
00:35:59,045 --> 00:36:03,845
everything we've discussed and you mentioned it earlier, this is late stage capitalism. And I

469
00:36:03,845 --> 00:36:08,485
would argue this is like late stage fiat, like all this that we're talking about emanates from

470
00:36:08,485 --> 00:36:12,945
the fact that we can print money and throw it at whatever the hell we want. And so when you look at

471
00:36:12,945 --> 00:36:17,465
the housing market specifically, this is one I like to focus on because the boomers are using

472
00:36:17,465 --> 00:36:23,285
their houses as piggy banks and just riding the wave of currency debasement, which pushes up the

473
00:36:23,285 --> 00:36:31,805
value of their houses more than the pace of inflation. And this is what really wears me

474
00:36:31,805 --> 00:36:36,885
about the current political climate with everybody running to the polar ends. I think people running

475
00:36:36,885 --> 00:36:42,765
to the polar ends and that's being incited by this economic stress that exists. And so you're

476
00:36:42,765 --> 00:36:49,045
seeing this economic populism manifest in two different forms, far left, far right. And really

477
00:36:49,045 --> 00:36:54,065
you're just swiping at the symptoms of the problem and not getting to the core of the problem. So I

478
00:36:54,065 --> 00:37:00,945
don't know what your thoughts on sound might, like me personally, like that, like this is what I've

479
00:37:00,945 --> 00:37:07,165
dedicated my life to is I didn't start out prefacing it in a political way, but increasingly

480
00:37:07,165 --> 00:37:12,325
so over the last decades, you've been sort of forced into the political realm. It's like,

481
00:37:12,385 --> 00:37:17,085
hey, guys, I understand there's a lot of economic stress. The right, you're mad that the immigrants

482
00:37:17,085 --> 00:37:24,145
are taking their jobs, that you can't buy a house. The left, I understand that you think the

483
00:37:24,145 --> 00:37:28,525
corporate oligarchs are taking all the wealth. You're right. Both of you are right to a certain

484
00:37:28,525 --> 00:37:35,525
extent, but the solution to this problem is not over communism or having a strongman fascist

485
00:37:35,525 --> 00:37:38,785
come in and physically remove people that you disagree with.

486
00:37:38,905 --> 00:37:42,965
Like there is a core to this problem, which is the money and the fact that you can print

487
00:37:42,965 --> 00:37:44,565
it and throw it at whatever you want.

488
00:37:44,705 --> 00:37:46,105
And both sides are doing it.

489
00:37:47,165 --> 00:37:52,065
So I wonder if I have, let me see if I can pull up anything while I'm talking here.

490
00:37:52,065 --> 00:37:59,245
And one of the problems is that I agree 100% with you that there is a problem there.

491
00:37:59,785 --> 00:38:07,305
But one of the things is that it's so abstract to your average voter that they know they're getting screwed, but they don't know why or who.

492
00:38:07,665 --> 00:38:15,345
And so I think that this anger goes to big corporations and it goes to government and not necessarily things like the Fed or the monetary system.

493
00:38:16,185 --> 00:38:18,905
I'm trying to find if we've even polled on it.

494
00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:31,405
Now, I am hopeful about the right in that if you remember, and again, I don't have numbers on this, but one of the things that people were happy about on the internets when Trump came in was that we were going to audit the Fed.

495
00:38:31,565 --> 00:38:32,985
We were going to go after the DOD.

496
00:38:33,165 --> 00:38:34,545
We were going to take a look at the IRS.

497
00:38:34,845 --> 00:38:39,805
We were going to look at all of these systems, the system, the oligarchy.

498
00:38:40,545 --> 00:38:45,065
And I also think, too, is that there's increasing anger on the right at the corporate oligarchy as well.

499
00:38:45,065 --> 00:38:48,225
A lot of people who say, nope, this is not free market capitalism.

500
00:38:48,225 --> 00:39:01,985
Like we, you know, if that was true, if it was the left that hated the corporate oligarchy, I mean, we pulled on big businesses and the numbers were of people who didn't trust big corporations was 60, 70 percent among Republicans.

501
00:39:01,985 --> 00:39:03,525
It's almost as high as the left.

502
00:39:03,925 --> 00:39:10,385
And then I think there is this aspect of like the horseshoe theory of politics, which is like, OK, it's not a right left spectrum.

503
00:39:10,385 --> 00:39:16,865
It's like when you add another layer of like authoritarianism, then the extreme right and the extreme left become a lot closer together.

504
00:39:16,865 --> 00:39:18,105
And that is true.

505
00:39:18,225 --> 00:39:29,645
That is really true because, again, look at the under 40 voters who would put an AI in charge of the government and look at the under 40 voters who would nationalize Trump voters who would nationalize major industries.

506
00:39:29,645 --> 00:39:38,585
And what's kind of wild, too, is that the the accountability signal has been strongest among the youth vote.

507
00:39:39,065 --> 00:39:41,645
So they were the people most likely.

508
00:39:43,025 --> 00:39:47,185
OK, so they, for instance, take things like the auto pen scandal.

509
00:39:48,225 --> 00:39:50,905
They're following it less closely than other people.

510
00:39:51,145 --> 00:39:54,785
But when you tell them what it is, they're most likely to say they're concerned about

511
00:39:54,785 --> 00:39:56,525
it and they're most likely to want arrests.

512
00:39:56,725 --> 00:40:02,265
So it's like the arrest signal in these things like Autopen, you know, impeaching the judges,

513
00:40:02,885 --> 00:40:04,345
Arctic Frost.

514
00:40:04,785 --> 00:40:07,405
It's like a three to one signal among under 30 voters.

515
00:40:08,165 --> 00:40:14,065
And they also were most likely to agree with the Trump quote that he who it was the Napoleon

516
00:40:14,065 --> 00:40:18,005
quote, he who saves his country violates no laws.

517
00:40:18,225 --> 00:40:28,925
So I do think that if Trump, like some of my feedback would have been in the march to do more of this, to play fast and loose with the law, to ignore some of the judges.

518
00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:36,905
And I think that that would have allowed him to sort of enter this higher plane of governance where people would have been happy that the system was being fixed.

519
00:40:37,025 --> 00:40:39,805
Like, I think that people would have forgiven a lot.

520
00:40:40,165 --> 00:40:46,505
Now, part of the problem is it's like, OK, well, you did everything with Israel and Epstein and the one big, beautiful bill and the government shutdown.

521
00:40:46,505 --> 00:40:52,225
Now, here you are with weakened political capital, and I don't think you can get away with it again anymore.

522
00:40:52,405 --> 00:40:55,005
And so I'm not calling for like a dictator.

523
00:40:55,965 --> 00:41:10,117
And you know I just I just saying it like also the Constitution is not a suicide pact And we are getting to a situation in my opinion where we really people are really concerned about political violence It like 90 percent of them especially on the left

524
00:41:10,177 --> 00:41:13,017
The left is very concerned that the right is going to become violent.

525
00:41:14,297 --> 00:41:18,297
Forty three percent think a civil war or revolutions likely in the next few years.

526
00:41:18,398 --> 00:41:19,497
That number keeps going up.

527
00:41:20,057 --> 00:41:22,277
And people this one's kind of wild.

528
00:41:22,277 --> 00:41:27,497
We asked people who's the biggest enemy facing America and like China wins, but the Democrat

529
00:41:27,497 --> 00:41:30,357
party is number two and the Republican party is number three.

530
00:41:30,617 --> 00:41:32,957
No, actually, I think we had one where the Democrats were number one.

531
00:41:33,517 --> 00:41:35,297
So it's you know what I mean?

532
00:41:35,337 --> 00:41:39,817
It's and people are overwhelmingly more concerned about domestic terrorism instead of like foreign

533
00:41:39,817 --> 00:41:43,577
terrorism, which is why these arguments that Israel is using like, hey, we're keeping the

534
00:41:43,577 --> 00:41:45,938
terrorists away by, you know, they don't care.

535
00:41:46,177 --> 00:41:48,757
They're literally worried that we're going to start shooting each other.

536
00:41:48,757 --> 00:42:08,577
And so again, I don't know where that goes, but it's on both sides. And this is what happens when all the institutions fall apart and the existing institutions are incapable of dealing with the problem is that you get new institutions and new value sets.

537
00:42:08,577 --> 00:42:35,737
So this is the fourth turning. This happened time and time again. We, you know, the country was kind of messed up. Then we had World War II. Everybody got on the same page. They punched Hitler in the nose and took out imperialist Japan. And everybody formed a new value system based on us being like the shining beacon of democracy superpower to the rest of the world. And now we had a good run off of that. We had a good 50 year run. Same thing kind of with the Civil War, right?

538
00:42:35,737 --> 00:42:39,357
You know, like we built a new country and we had a whole new set of values.

539
00:42:39,357 --> 00:42:42,657
And that's what happens is institutions decay.

540
00:42:42,777 --> 00:42:43,317
There's fighting.

541
00:42:43,957 --> 00:42:44,898
There's a solution.

542
00:42:45,117 --> 00:42:47,597
And like a vacuum gets filled.

543
00:42:47,737 --> 00:42:48,918
Like, that's my theme here.

544
00:42:49,317 --> 00:42:51,617
There is a vacuum and it's going to get filled with something.

545
00:42:51,617 --> 00:43:05,457
It would be nice if it got filled with a competent, conservative Republican Party that was like willing to get its head out of its rear and not listen to the billionaires and actually listen to the American people.

546
00:43:05,737 --> 00:43:10,418
And I just don't think we're like, just don't think we're there yet.

547
00:43:10,557 --> 00:43:12,157
You know, not only would it be nice.

548
00:43:12,257 --> 00:43:23,317
I mean, it's completely necessary to your point about that opportunity earlier in the year for Trump to really lean in and sort of throw some degree of due process to the side.

549
00:43:23,438 --> 00:43:31,177
I think people, myself included, would be OK with that, because I think it's become abundantly clear to me, at least, that we live in the age of anarcho tyranny.

550
00:43:31,177 --> 00:43:42,938
I mean, what just happened in Minnesota earlier today, the judge threw out the conviction of people who were scamming some sort of some sort of government subsidy program.

551
00:43:43,477 --> 00:43:45,797
And that's like this part.

552
00:43:45,918 --> 00:43:49,657
These people were convicted by a jury of their quote unquote peers.

553
00:43:50,017 --> 00:43:55,938
Wanted to find them as peers, but found guilty, supposed to be sentenced to go to prison.

554
00:43:55,938 --> 00:43:59,517
And then judge comes in out of left field and says, no, I'm throwing the conviction out.

555
00:43:59,517 --> 00:44:23,477
It's like we don't have justice in America anymore, which is incredibly scary and does leave open an opportunity, at least in my mind, for the somewhat strong man to come in and say, hey, no, if we're going to live in a society, if we're going to have this contract between the government and the governed, like we need to enforce the laws that we're all agreeing to here.

556
00:44:23,557 --> 00:44:25,938
And that's completely getting thrown out the window.

557
00:44:25,938 --> 00:44:29,137
What do you what do you think a solution is to that?

558
00:44:29,517 --> 00:44:37,957
um i mean this is controversial in the bitcoin space too but i you just look at what bouquet

559
00:44:37,957 --> 00:44:46,517
bouquet has done in el salvador the last three years like yeah it's yeah i mean you gotta

560
00:44:46,517 --> 00:44:53,037
attack the corrupt judges and actually throw people in jail like this whole um i mean it's

561
00:44:53,037 --> 00:44:59,237
becoming abundantly clear if you're online like a lot of the gruesome targeted deaths towards

562
00:44:59,237 --> 00:45:06,918
white people and white women specifically are being being sort of waged by people of

563
00:45:06,918 --> 00:45:12,317
multiple criminal offenses. Like the three strike policy should exist. What's the stat? If you were

564
00:45:12,317 --> 00:45:16,797
to enforce the three strike policy, violent crime would reduce by something like 80 percent.

565
00:45:17,377 --> 00:45:21,237
Oh, I hadn't seen that. It makes sense. Makes 100 percent sense. You know, that was powerful.

566
00:45:21,377 --> 00:45:27,918
The the it gets glossed over by the Charlie Kirk assassination. But we polled on Arena Zerutska

567
00:45:27,918 --> 00:45:32,817
and overwhelmingly, I mean, obviously people thought the guy was guilty, but when you pull

568
00:45:32,817 --> 00:45:37,117
on the capital punishment, like that's a pretty profound question. Like a lot goes into whether

569
00:45:37,117 --> 00:45:42,698
you think that criminals should get killed or not. Uh, you know, a lot of value things and worldview

570
00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:49,457
and stuff. And capital punishment was popular last time we pulled it by like 49 to 36.

571
00:45:49,797 --> 00:45:56,117
But after that killing, it was 60% to 20%, including a majority of Democrats. It was plus

572
00:45:56,117 --> 00:46:01,037
70 among Republicans. Capital punishment is super popular among evangelical Christians.

573
00:46:01,637 --> 00:46:06,257
So people are fed up. I think that's one of the signals that, you know, the problem with,

574
00:46:06,257 --> 00:46:12,297
again, the Bekele approach is that there's still like a lot of risk because there's so much

575
00:46:12,297 --> 00:46:17,537
backbiting on the right. There's a lot of risk that whoever does this is going to become like

576
00:46:17,537 --> 00:46:21,837
a pariah or get, you know, their system is going to turn against them or like there's,

577
00:46:21,998 --> 00:46:25,777
there's still too much risk and not enough upside. And I'm just thinking pragmatically

578
00:46:25,777 --> 00:46:31,857
about like, why don't we do that here? And so at the same time, what I see from the conservatives

579
00:46:31,857 --> 00:46:37,237
is they have no answer at all. I've heard a lot of people conjecture about what Congress could do,

580
00:46:37,277 --> 00:46:42,257
for instance, about judges like Bosberg, and essentially they've done nothing. And so even

581
00:46:42,257 --> 00:46:47,457
you have Elon Musk, who's an important voice, he's a massive voice, screaming about all these corrupt

582
00:46:47,457 --> 00:46:53,537
judges. And unfortunately, in my opinion, if you can't, if you don't have a political system that

583
00:46:53,537 --> 00:46:58,737
is capable of holding them accountable, and you don't have the balls to pull a Bekele,

584
00:46:59,337 --> 00:47:03,977
then what the right way to do is probably to think like an accelerationist, think like the left.

585
00:47:04,637 --> 00:47:10,377
And look at Comey. You know, I understand that the indictment of him was pretty quick,

586
00:47:10,577 --> 00:47:16,037
but you also have to acknowledge that it does appear like from a criminal accountability

587
00:47:16,037 --> 00:47:21,177
perspective, the Trump administration has been careful to cross its T's and dot its I's, right?

588
00:47:21,477 --> 00:47:23,537
It's like, hey, we want this stuff to stick.

589
00:47:24,077 --> 00:47:26,617
Well, no, you should just be spamming indictments.

590
00:47:26,617 --> 00:47:31,857
Like just put all throw all these people, you know, at the court system and see what happens.

591
00:47:32,337 --> 00:47:39,898
The idea is like, hey, like, you know, the indictment has to have weight and there should be some supporting evidence.

592
00:47:40,757 --> 00:47:42,597
And just let the court system.

593
00:47:43,777 --> 00:47:46,898
Revolve these guys, the revolving door right back on the street.

594
00:47:47,237 --> 00:47:50,517
At least the Americans will see then that our court system is corrupt.

595
00:47:51,177 --> 00:47:53,857
You have a constant signal that this system is worse than you thought.

596
00:47:53,918 --> 00:47:54,977
The system is worse than you thought.

597
00:47:55,577 --> 00:47:56,918
And we don't have that.

598
00:47:57,037 --> 00:48:00,797
Instead, everybody's anger and rage is at Pan Bondi for doing nothing.

599
00:48:01,297 --> 00:48:05,677
They could have been arresting one person a day, one big important person, and they would

600
00:48:05,677 --> 00:48:08,157
still have another three years worth of arrests to do.

601
00:48:08,877 --> 00:48:09,457
You know what I mean?

602
00:48:09,457 --> 00:48:14,237
Like, yeah, we could, you know, arrest some of the people in the pharmaceutical industry.

603
00:48:14,517 --> 00:48:19,817
And I understand the pharmaceutical companies have like, you know, you gave them immunity,

604
00:48:19,918 --> 00:48:20,617
but so what?

605
00:48:21,177 --> 00:48:23,457
Like they murdered people like, so what?

606
00:48:25,317 --> 00:48:28,898
You know, there's plenty of corporates that have done bad things.

607
00:48:28,898 --> 00:48:31,597
I mean, probably plenty, plenty of scamming of the COVID money.

608
00:48:33,317 --> 00:48:43,637
Just, you know, at a certain point, it's like, this is what it comes down to is it's like, okay, you kind of ran on fixing the system and now you are the system.

609
00:48:44,077 --> 00:48:44,517
Yeah.

610
00:48:44,517 --> 00:48:48,457
And so there, the anger is being directed at them and not at the parts that are bad.

611
00:48:48,557 --> 00:48:49,418
It's like, yeah, sure.

612
00:48:49,498 --> 00:48:50,457
Everybody hates Boesburg.

613
00:48:50,457 --> 00:49:05,357
But it's like, no, this is everywhere. This is literally everywhere. There's Soros DAs everywhere. The law enforcement is probably way more corrupt than anybody knows. And so if you can't fix those problems, I guess you just got to make them look worse. And nobody will even do that.

614
00:49:05,357 --> 00:49:13,198
That seems like the path towards acceleration is the path that's been chosen, which, again, is a father with young children.

615
00:49:13,398 --> 00:49:17,277
Not ideal, but I mean, to your point about COVID, too, I mean, that's one thing that's passionate.

616
00:49:17,377 --> 00:49:21,938
I had to escape to Texas for four years because it was crazy here in the Northeast.

617
00:49:22,438 --> 00:49:26,737
I mean, multiple parts of COVID, I mean, lead up to it.

618
00:49:26,857 --> 00:49:30,057
We funded the research that created the virus in the first place.

619
00:49:30,057 --> 00:49:34,837
Then we shut the economy down, hollowed out the middle class even more.

620
00:49:34,837 --> 00:49:44,757
And then Trump's guilty of it, like inciting Operation Warp Speed and basically telling everybody to disregard everything they've been taught about vaccines and how it takes a decade to test them.

621
00:49:45,297 --> 00:49:47,438
And don't worry, this one's nine months out.

622
00:49:47,637 --> 00:49:48,517
You got to get it.

623
00:49:48,557 --> 00:49:51,237
If you don't get it, you can't go to a restaurant, can't go back to your job.

624
00:49:51,977 --> 00:49:55,737
Basically putting it in the arms of 80 percent of the people in the country.

625
00:49:55,977 --> 00:50:00,957
And 12 to 18 months later, people start dropping like flies, turbo cancer through the roof.

626
00:50:00,957 --> 00:50:04,177
Like there's been no reckoning for that.

627
00:50:04,837 --> 00:50:10,117
What I would call crime against humanity, a lot of which the pharmaceutical companies were in the middle of.

628
00:50:11,337 --> 00:50:13,998
Yeah, it's completely anarchic tyranny again.

629
00:50:14,517 --> 00:50:26,537
It's like you get rightist accelerationists or leftist accelerationists and the leftist acceleration is to force the system to its like brutal max corruption.

630
00:50:27,418 --> 00:50:33,077
And if if the right doesn't answer back, then that's what the left is going to do next time they get an office.

631
00:50:33,077 --> 00:50:39,877
And I hope there'll be more sane, but I assume we're just going to see more people thrown in jail and more censorship.

632
00:50:40,498 --> 00:50:45,757
Like I just I go to sleep at night and I just picture Elon Musk standing in front of Congress.

633
00:50:46,857 --> 00:50:56,297
Defending Twitter against all the people who are accusing it of being an anti-Semitic platform and that we have to stop all this hate against Israel and look at the way the polling turned against Israel.

634
00:50:56,297 --> 00:50:59,877
And it was, wasn't it crazy how it was like Elon Musk's bots.

635
00:50:59,877 --> 00:51:05,157
And now we have to, now we have like an anti-Semitism crisis in America and we have to shut down Twitter.

636
00:51:05,157 --> 00:51:07,257
And it's like, you know what I mean?

637
00:51:07,257 --> 00:51:15,297
And it's like, okay, well, the one beachhead of actual open discourse on the internet is now gone and everything's going to be like Reddit again.

638
00:51:15,297 --> 00:51:26,757
And that's where I think like your peak psychological warfare is happening on these like internet on ramps into this online, like youth liberal monoculture that's Marxist.

639
00:51:27,157 --> 00:51:29,357
And they like the right has no idea.

640
00:51:29,477 --> 00:51:32,137
Like Comer had the CEO of Reddit on Capitol Hill.

641
00:51:32,137 --> 00:51:34,297
And I don't even think they asked him a tough question.

642
00:51:34,597 --> 00:51:43,337
You know, it's like, meanwhile, you have people going on and getting onion links to the deep web to learn how to make like bombs with Antifa.

643
00:51:44,297 --> 00:51:44,698
Yeah.

644
00:51:45,297 --> 00:51:49,037
And they're declaring Antifa a terrorist organization and not doing it.

645
00:51:49,037 --> 00:51:50,357
You're not like subpoenaing Reddit.

646
00:51:50,637 --> 00:51:51,837
Like, what are you doing?

647
00:51:53,398 --> 00:51:54,077
It's bad, man.

648
00:51:55,398 --> 00:52:14,037
Since you're close to the source of the sentiment of many Americans, but I think particularly for this conversation, the younger generations, what would be the broad brush sort of policy that you or policies that you would recommend?

649
00:52:14,037 --> 00:52:17,817
recommend. I think starting, because that's the one thing when you look at Mamdani and

650
00:52:17,817 --> 00:52:23,198
the socialist left, it's becoming clear that they're running with this economic populism,

651
00:52:23,677 --> 00:52:29,737
affordability crisis meme. And it's not a meme, it's reality. They're leaning into it. And I think

652
00:52:29,737 --> 00:52:34,377
the right has an incredible opportunity to lean into it as well. They just completely

653
00:52:34,377 --> 00:52:40,217
shit the bed in terms of forming a coherent narrative and policy around it.

654
00:52:40,217 --> 00:52:48,617
um like there's pie in the sky and then there's like within the actual realms of possibility

655
00:52:48,617 --> 00:52:58,077
uh i mean the problem is just so bad i've proposed fixes like some of these sound really stupid but

656
00:52:58,077 --> 00:53:02,777
i think that they would go a long way it's like okay pull baron trump out of columbia

657
00:53:02,777 --> 00:53:08,017
make him deputy chief of staff get that guy in the white house put trump on the podcast circuit

658
00:53:08,017 --> 00:53:13,357
again, like let him sit in front of Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's going to choose, you know, like it's

659
00:53:13,357 --> 00:53:18,357
not going to be as cushy of a discussion as it was last time, but it's going to make Trump actually

660
00:53:18,357 --> 00:53:23,077
acknowledge like why he ran and the current state of things like he needs to get this feedback

661
00:53:23,077 --> 00:53:29,457
continuously from multiple people. They probably need like a coalition of young people in the White

662
00:53:29,457 --> 00:53:35,597
House to talk to Trump every morning. And for God's sakes, he should never listen to a single

663
00:53:35,597 --> 00:53:39,398
Fox News talking head ever again, because that's the globalist wing of the Republican

664
00:53:39,398 --> 00:53:42,657
Party who literally, in my opinion, helped destroy America.

665
00:53:44,097 --> 00:53:48,938
And certainly Fox News is not, you know, a pro-Trump organization, and yet he just loves

666
00:53:48,938 --> 00:53:49,438
these people.

667
00:53:50,537 --> 00:53:51,737
And so that's like one.

668
00:53:52,137 --> 00:53:53,237
Two is like.

669
00:53:54,297 --> 00:53:55,918
I laid out the plan.

670
00:53:55,918 --> 00:54:02,337
It's like, again, I think any plan would work as long as you say we're restoring the American

671
00:54:02,337 --> 00:54:02,757
dream.

672
00:54:02,757 --> 00:54:06,757
We acknowledge the Republican Party's role in it and we're going to fix it together.

673
00:54:07,117 --> 00:54:08,698
And this is what we're going to do.

674
00:54:08,817 --> 00:54:10,418
And it's going to be a long term plan.

675
00:54:10,677 --> 00:54:13,097
We're going to deliver on this aspect of it.

676
00:54:13,177 --> 00:54:22,017
And it includes massive cutback on immigration, punishing corporations for illegal labor and for undercutting American wages.

677
00:54:22,657 --> 00:54:26,297
Punish corporations is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very big part of this.

678
00:54:26,297 --> 00:54:34,198
I would triple the size of the Department of Justice antitrust wing and sue every corporation in America that is offshore jobs.

679
00:54:34,817 --> 00:54:43,777
But, you know, put it put a tax on him. Use the IRS, put payroll taxes on every offshore worker like, you know, the entire CPA industry is like 50, 60, whatever.

680
00:54:43,824 --> 00:54:49,104
percent it is offshore. And what's going to happen when you do things like this? The stock market's

681
00:54:49,104 --> 00:54:53,404
going to crash. And I think people are okay with it as long as they have a light at the end of the

682
00:54:53,404 --> 00:54:58,244
tunnel. It's like, hey, we're going to fix the housing market. You know what I mean? Yes. Yes,

683
00:54:58,264 --> 00:55:02,264
your housing value is going to come down. Why? Because we're going to build 5 million homes and

684
00:55:02,264 --> 00:55:05,704
train you how to do it. And we're not going to do it with any illegal labor. And we're going to get

685
00:55:05,704 --> 00:55:11,904
rid of 5 million people that are from other countries that shouldn't be here. And again,

686
00:55:11,904 --> 00:55:13,484
Again, they're doing some of the stuff.

687
00:55:13,604 --> 00:55:16,964
The H-1B fee will be part of this plan.

688
00:55:18,144 --> 00:55:20,724
But it's like Trump doesn't even know the H-1B plan.

689
00:55:20,984 --> 00:55:21,824
The fee exists.

690
00:55:22,124 --> 00:55:26,984
He probably doesn't know about Project Firewall and why it's happening and who's running it and what the goal is.

691
00:55:28,084 --> 00:55:29,804
And so that's one.

692
00:55:29,904 --> 00:55:32,284
And then two is like, hey, we hear you.

693
00:55:33,484 --> 00:55:41,744
When somebody gets assassinated and nobody trusts the FBI, it's because the FBI was corrupted and we just put another person in charge of corrupt organization.

694
00:55:41,904 --> 00:56:04,804
And so we're actually going to reform government. Here's our plan. It's going to be visible. It's not going to be transparency because transparency just pisses people off more. Oh, look, the CIA is just as bad as I thought it was. No, we're going to go through a very systematic internal investigation, public airing of evidence and firings. And it'd be great if you threw them in jail, too.

695
00:56:04,804 --> 00:56:12,104
But you're going to frog march the people out of the IRS, the DOJ, the Department of Defense, all these people we all know are still there.

696
00:56:12,604 --> 00:56:22,184
And it always should have been predicated on fraud and abuse and corruption and misuse of, you know, and not on downsizing the government.

697
00:56:22,504 --> 00:56:26,144
It's like, you know, Doge, that was great.

698
00:56:26,244 --> 00:56:31,644
But this is about restoring trust in institutions for the American people.

699
00:56:31,644 --> 00:56:37,444
and obviously people are going to cry about it. That's the point. The point is for people to cry.

700
00:56:38,824 --> 00:56:44,744
And, uh, like, I think that two point plan right there, if you could, and again, if the Republican

701
00:56:44,744 --> 00:56:50,504
party is not going to play, uh, I think a lot of people on the left would be behind this. I would,

702
00:56:50,824 --> 00:56:56,724
I think you see increasingly people like Ro Khanna and maybe even mom, like people like that,

703
00:56:56,724 --> 00:57:01,964
willing to lean into this. Like it's kind of the stuff that Elizabeth Warren and AOC have been

704
00:57:01,964 --> 00:57:07,404
saying, but obviously they're not true believers in the stuff they say, but that's what happens

705
00:57:07,404 --> 00:57:10,804
when you have a political realignment. And so the Republican party can either like play ball.

706
00:57:11,364 --> 00:57:17,444
Um, but like the idea that somehow John Foon's like pharmaceutical backers should be able to like

707
00:57:17,444 --> 00:57:25,104
prevent us from reordering the cost of healthcare. Uh, you know, like that, that has to go away.

708
00:57:25,104 --> 00:57:31,904
And if he's going to stand in the way, then you have to be very specific about why these people are blocking you.

709
00:57:32,084 --> 00:57:33,144
It's not MTG.

710
00:57:33,244 --> 00:57:34,084
She's going crazy.

711
00:57:34,304 --> 00:57:34,764
Look at this.

712
00:57:34,824 --> 00:57:36,804
She can't be trusted as a reliable mega vote.

713
00:57:37,044 --> 00:57:40,184
Like, no, be very specific about what the problem with her.

714
00:57:40,424 --> 00:57:47,544
If you're going to fight your own party, you have to be fighting the broken system and force Republicans to pick a side.

715
00:57:47,644 --> 00:57:51,504
Are you going to be on the part of the party that's fixing this or are you going to be on the broken system side?

716
00:57:51,504 --> 00:58:04,584
I would love for somebody to freaking rail on Chuck Grassley right now for going to bat for the big ag and the pesticide industry, people that obviously support him because of where he's from.

717
00:58:04,864 --> 00:58:15,624
When you have people like Callie Means and they're looking out for the health of the people and passing regulations that try and keep cancer causing agents or whatever, you know, like these kind of things.

718
00:58:15,624 --> 00:58:20,564
And unfortunately, that's going to take a Manhattan project in order to do it.

719
00:58:20,604 --> 00:58:21,904
And the window is closing.

720
00:58:22,404 --> 00:58:40,124
Oh, the third point is that they need a half a billion dollars to fund a shadow RNC to fight the state and county level Republican parties and basically tie knit together all the grassroots volunteers group in front of an organization that is intentionally built not to cipher donor money.

721
00:58:40,124 --> 00:58:49,224
So it's like, it's great you got Gruters there, but he's not going to be able to fight against all of the establishment Republican scumbags spread out across the country.

722
00:58:49,944 --> 00:58:58,564
And all those people do is just run crap candidates so that they can maximize the amount of like donor harvesting money that they get out of the NRSC, the NRCC and stuff like that.

723
00:58:58,684 --> 00:59:00,904
So that's how you could fix it.

724
00:59:01,444 --> 00:59:05,964
And I think it's possible, but I think the level of will is just not there at all.

725
00:59:05,964 --> 00:59:10,424
and it's like, okay, probably pie in the sky to think that somebody is just going to cough up a

726
00:59:10,424 --> 00:59:15,864
half a billion dollars for Republicans to fix America without having any personal interest.

727
00:59:15,984 --> 00:59:22,184
Cause that's all Trump's donors. He says this, he said, he, he told the world in a speech about

728
00:59:22,184 --> 00:59:26,604
Miriam Adelson. Like he said this, that's how it works with every single one of them.

729
00:59:27,444 --> 00:59:33,104
It, you know, so that's, that's what I'm like, again, I don't think that's too retarded of a

730
00:59:33,104 --> 00:59:40,424
plan i think it's achievable uh it's just a matter of will it seems very uh i mean on the surface at

731
00:59:40,424 --> 00:59:48,724
least it seems very simple and even keeled maybe not even keeled but like uh it seems like it would

732
00:59:48,724 --> 00:59:54,424
answer a lot of the questions and a lot of the frustration that exists in the younger voting

733
00:59:54,424 --> 01:00:00,624
base right now certainly be more appealing to me than what's going on right now and i mean the

734
01:00:00,624 --> 01:00:08,944
extent of like i don't really get too engaged in the dynamics of the republican party in the donor

735
01:00:08,944 --> 01:00:14,384
class uh the incumbent donor class there but i've seen it up close and personal with our industry

736
01:00:14,384 --> 01:00:20,544
i've been going to dc a lot um talking to politicians and some think tanks about bitcoin

737
01:00:20,544 --> 01:00:26,624
policy and just seeing how money is corrupted um policy as it pertains to bitcoin and broader crypto

738
01:00:26,624 --> 01:00:30,404
is nauseating.

739
01:00:30,764 --> 01:00:32,584
If you have money, you're going to get in the room.

740
01:00:32,664 --> 01:00:35,044
You're going to be sitting at the table,

741
01:00:35,364 --> 01:00:39,424
pushing your wares at a hypercritical time

742
01:00:39,424 --> 01:00:41,764
for this industry in the country.

743
01:00:41,764 --> 01:00:45,744
And it's just become obvious from my perspective

744
01:00:45,744 --> 01:00:48,384
of what I've seen in Bitcoin and broader crypto

745
01:00:48,384 --> 01:00:51,984
that the money talks more than sensible.

746
01:00:51,984 --> 01:00:52,804
It's way worse than you know.

747
01:00:52,984 --> 01:00:54,364
It's way, way, way worse than you know.

748
01:00:54,364 --> 01:01:02,884
There's a really good article in The Guardian that came out, I think, about a month and a half ago, and it shows how interests on the right work.

749
01:01:03,784 --> 01:01:11,484
And what I kind of say is that the Democrats are the party of big government and also corporations, and Republicans are the party of corporations and also big government.

750
01:01:12,444 --> 01:01:15,004
And this really lays it out.

751
01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:24,084
So, you know, there's an aspect of corporate welfare on the right and a really big lightning rod of it is the whole food stamp program.

752
01:01:24,604 --> 01:01:34,124
So it turns out that out of the like 120 billion a year we spend on food stamps, like Walmart winds up pocketing a cool like one quarter of that in revenue goes straight to Walmart.

753
01:01:34,124 --> 01:01:40,664
And that like apparently between 10 and 15 percent of Coke U.S.'s revenue comes from food stamps as well.

754
01:01:41,464 --> 01:01:43,424
Because a lot of it gets spent on soda.

755
01:01:43,424 --> 01:02:02,586
And so this article lays out like I don know if you remember but back in March there was a period where all these influencers got caught shilling for big soda on the right They use this website influenceable Well that was actually only like one prong of a much bigger strategy And so this article lays out about how the American Beverage Association

756
01:02:03,146 --> 01:02:07,687
which doesn't really care about politics at all, other than what can it buy, said, oh, well,

757
01:02:07,727 --> 01:02:14,146
Republicans are in office and we want to keep our food stamps. And so let's get Republican

758
01:02:14,146 --> 01:02:20,187
lobbyists because Republicans are in office. And so they went and found like Republican influencers

759
01:02:20,187 --> 01:02:25,827
and Republican lobbyist groups. And the article says, well, it was actually really super easy to

760
01:02:25,827 --> 01:02:30,426
convince everybody in Washington, D.C. to support continued soda and food stamps,

761
01:02:30,606 --> 01:02:34,787
barely an inconvenience. All they had to do was like hold the check in front of them,

762
01:02:34,866 --> 01:02:39,247
you know, or threaten to pull their funding or whatever. But the real problem was at the state

763
01:02:39,247 --> 01:02:44,466
level. So the article literally just glosses over how easy it was to purchase Washington,

764
01:02:44,606 --> 01:02:49,787
D.C. by an interest group. And the problem is, is at a state level, it's hard to purchase state

765
01:02:49,787 --> 01:02:54,387
legislators because there's just too many of them. And what was happening is that states were passing

766
01:02:54,387 --> 01:03:00,827
laws to remove soda from food stamps, Republican states. So they went and they spent $2 million

767
01:03:00,827 --> 01:03:06,566
on a Republican pollster. And I can just tell you that that's a ridiculous amount of money.

768
01:03:06,566 --> 01:03:10,986
Our revenue line, I think combined for the last four years, isn't probably even 2 million.

769
01:03:11,847 --> 01:03:17,907
And, uh, and of course the results found that imagine that Republican voters just love people

770
01:03:17,907 --> 01:03:24,346
buying soda on food stamps. They probably used some BS libertarian arguments in push questions

771
01:03:24,346 --> 01:03:29,247
or however they did it, but they got the results they wanted. And then they bring them to Republican

772
01:03:29,247 --> 01:03:32,966
governors and say, well, you don't want to make your Republican voters mad. And this bill that

773
01:03:32,966 --> 01:03:36,726
you're about to sign, it's going to be bad for them. And so you shouldn't do this. And they were

774
01:03:36,726 --> 01:03:41,686
successful in killing this legislation in multiple states, saving probably hundreds of millions of

775
01:03:41,686 --> 01:03:47,606
dollars of soda industry revenue, a really big return on investment. And then we went into the

776
01:03:47,606 --> 01:03:51,486
field and found the exact opposite. Like, no, Republicans don't like people buying sugary

777
01:03:51,486 --> 01:03:56,087
beverages on food stamps. Like, that's stupid. Why would? And, you know, like anybody with a

778
01:03:56,087 --> 01:04:01,887
brain knows that. But it took us pulling out of our own pocketbook to go out there and say,

779
01:04:02,026 --> 01:04:06,666
like, no, you're not crazy. Americans aren't stupid. This is retarded. But that's not how

780
01:04:06,666 --> 01:04:12,307
the Republican Party works. Yeah. I mean, it's very obvious. You get diabetes, you drive up

781
01:04:12,307 --> 01:04:17,046
everybody's health care costs. It's pretty simple. The health industry loves it, too. I'm

782
01:04:17,046 --> 01:04:25,447
surprised they weren't lobbying for it yeah you know like rot those kids teeth out man yeah it's um

783
01:04:26,247 --> 01:04:34,526
incredibly disenchanting this whole conversation the uh because that's that's one thing we have

784
01:04:34,526 --> 01:04:41,606
here never doom there's always a way out obviously that's become a meme in some circles of the uh

785
01:04:41,606 --> 01:04:43,526
of the social media realm,

786
01:04:43,767 --> 01:04:45,526
particularly in the last two years.

787
01:04:45,827 --> 01:04:47,447
And that's one thing,

788
01:04:47,486 --> 01:04:49,146
going back to what you said earlier of people,

789
01:04:49,427 --> 01:04:51,207
and again, what I focus on is like,

790
01:04:51,286 --> 01:04:53,207
again, I think a lot of this economic stress

791
01:04:53,207 --> 01:04:55,267
stems from the fact that we can just print money

792
01:04:55,267 --> 01:04:59,106
and people simply need a better form of money

793
01:04:59,106 --> 01:05:02,427
to save their wealth in and earn their wealth in.

794
01:05:02,566 --> 01:05:04,447
I think Bitcoin is that,

795
01:05:04,447 --> 01:05:05,346
but to your point earlier,

796
01:05:05,506 --> 01:05:07,966
people are just completely unaware

797
01:05:07,966 --> 01:05:09,846
of the dynamics of money,

798
01:05:09,966 --> 01:05:11,447
how it works and...

799
01:05:11,606 --> 01:05:17,407
This is more of a ramble than a question, but like, how do we, and that's part of what I try to do here is like educate people about it.

800
01:05:17,466 --> 01:05:26,367
We've had success, but not at the, not at the scale that's necessary to really make it clear to most Americans that this is the core of the problem.

801
01:05:26,367 --> 01:05:29,907
It's like, how do you shift focus towards this part of it?

802
01:05:30,666 --> 01:05:35,247
Well, one of the things that I'm looking forward to seeing is that what will be the response?

803
01:05:35,327 --> 01:05:35,966
And I don't know yet.

804
01:05:36,127 --> 01:05:40,207
We're going to pull on it to Donald Trump's $2,000 check.

805
01:05:40,207 --> 01:05:44,207
and I really have no idea what the result's going to be, but I think it'll be telling.

806
01:05:44,506 --> 01:05:48,407
If the young people are like, screw this, I hate it. I think it'll be telling.

807
01:05:49,247 --> 01:05:54,087
You know, there's an aspect of, like again, any Republican party that is fixed on solving these

808
01:05:54,087 --> 01:05:59,966
issues would have a broad basket of wealth inequality measures with which to gauge their

809
01:05:59,966 --> 01:06:04,207
success. That's how you would measure it. Not the stock market. Donald Trump's still fixated on the

810
01:06:04,207 --> 01:06:09,787
stock market. And that's not how you win. You actually have to like, you give people America

811
01:06:09,787 --> 01:06:13,486
back, which means that they need jobs, they need houses, they need all these things. Right.

812
01:06:14,327 --> 01:06:20,466
But there, if you look at these metrics, it's really fascinating. And one of the ones that I

813
01:06:20,466 --> 01:06:26,767
found on Fred and I should not like, I got my MBA, but I'm not an economist. You know, I'm just a guy

814
01:06:26,767 --> 01:06:31,226
that's asking people questions. So, and our country, our company is very small. I have very

815
01:06:31,226 --> 01:06:36,226
little time. I shouldn't be the one dicking around on the federal reserve database, like trying to

816
01:06:36,226 --> 01:06:40,846
come up with ratios to measure why people are pissed off. And yet I've discovered ones that

817
01:06:40,846 --> 01:06:47,086
people haven't even contemplated. So one of them is to take per capita total public debt.

818
01:06:47,407 --> 01:06:53,506
So you just split up all the debt by Americans and then divide it by median real income.

819
01:06:54,447 --> 01:06:59,146
And so that's like, okay, well, how capable is your average American, the middle American

820
01:06:59,146 --> 01:07:04,686
paying off their share of the government's debt? Because it's like, okay, well, the stock market's

821
01:07:04,686 --> 01:07:08,466
gone up? Well, has it gone up more or less than the amount of dollars printed? Like, oh, hey,

822
01:07:08,486 --> 01:07:11,807
the housing prices have gone up. Well, has it gone up more or less than the amount of dollars

823
01:07:11,807 --> 01:07:15,447
printed? Like, I don't know. Like, it's hard to know. The debt's gone up. Are we doing better?

824
01:07:15,546 --> 01:07:20,026
Are we doing worse? It's hard to know, right? Well, when you look at it this way, what's weird

825
01:07:20,026 --> 01:07:27,367
is that the ratio was pretty stable at about 0.5, 0.6 area, which means that the average income

826
01:07:27,367 --> 01:07:34,826
was like, okay, compared to the per capita portion of debt. Well, about 2005, 2006,

827
01:07:35,566 --> 01:07:42,927
it's a hockey stick. It goes from 0.6 to about 2.5 where it is now. And it's a straight,

828
01:07:42,927 --> 01:07:47,287
it's a straight freaking line. It's a straight line. You know, it's got a couple of waves

829
01:07:47,287 --> 01:07:53,606
during the housing crisis and during COVID, but it's a straight line. And so what that means is

830
01:07:53,606 --> 01:08:02,006
that on top of the expansion in government debt, wealth concentration has priced people out of

831
01:08:02,006 --> 01:08:06,666
their ability to pay off the debt. And so that's a really, really bad sign because it means that

832
01:08:06,666 --> 01:08:12,606
we're concentrating debt payment on a smaller and smaller portion of America. But a five times

833
01:08:12,606 --> 01:08:20,106
decrease, five times in just 20 years of people's ability to push on the same boulder that we're all

834
01:08:20,106 --> 01:08:26,547
pushing on is, is horrifying. And it, I'm, I'm, I'm telling you, there's like literally a left

835
01:08:26,547 --> 01:08:31,566
turn. There's a point in inflection. And you know where I think that point is the fricking

836
01:08:31,566 --> 01:08:37,286
bailout bill where we started printing a hell of a lot of Bernanke bucks. We socialized the banking

837
01:08:37,286 --> 01:08:42,906
losses all along where, you know, the out offshoring and the H one B is probably picked up

838
01:08:42,906 --> 01:08:49,747
in, in vast, you know, quantities. And it's, it's staring at you right on the chart. It took me five

839
01:08:49,747 --> 01:08:53,507
minutes to print out and not a single person in all of politics or the banking industry

840
01:08:53,507 --> 01:08:55,047
or anybody cares about that at all.

841
01:08:55,507 --> 01:08:57,426
You're literally just fixated on the stock market.

842
01:08:58,326 --> 01:08:58,426
Yeah.

843
01:08:58,686 --> 01:09:00,026
The stock market is the economy.

844
01:09:00,686 --> 01:09:02,066
Mark, don't you know this?

845
01:09:02,526 --> 01:09:02,726
Yeah.

846
01:09:02,787 --> 01:09:14,869
It a bunch of boomers speculating on momentum plays I sluished some Fred charts before And like that what radicalized me Like I was a senior in high school in the fall of 2008 My dad was in finance

847
01:09:14,989 --> 01:09:20,409
He was affected negatively by the crash and studied econ in college.

848
01:09:20,409 --> 01:09:23,969
I always had this intuition that something's terribly wrong here.

849
01:09:25,049 --> 01:09:30,789
But if you go and you look at the Fed balance sheet from 1913 to 2008,

850
01:09:30,929 --> 01:09:34,769
expand it from $0 to $800 billion in the course of 95 years,

851
01:09:34,869 --> 01:09:42,449
And then between 09 in 2011, it went from like 800 billion to 4.7 trillion.

852
01:09:42,849 --> 01:09:49,589
So they six X to in, in a matter of three years, but took 95 years.

853
01:09:49,589 --> 01:09:53,609
So to your point, that is what I, that's what I think we'll look back.

854
01:09:53,709 --> 01:09:58,289
It'll be like nine 11, the first tremor and then 08 financial crisis.

855
01:09:58,289 --> 01:10:00,049
Like, all right, we're never looking back.

856
01:10:00,089 --> 01:10:01,709
Like we'll look back in posterity, be like, Oh,

857
01:10:01,709 --> 01:10:06,609
the empire fell somewhere in this period and now we're just picking up the pieces.

858
01:10:08,029 --> 01:10:12,769
Well, that's what happens in the fourth turnings is usually the crisis phase is kicked off with

859
01:10:12,769 --> 01:10:20,089
like a preliminary crisis. So we had world war one and then world war two. Uh, so I think a lot

860
01:10:20,089 --> 01:10:25,569
of people have speculated the great financial crisis is what has ushered in this. Uh, you know,

861
01:10:25,589 --> 01:10:30,009
I don't know what it's going to be, if it's going to be a civil war or revolution, or they're going

862
01:10:30,009 --> 01:10:33,489
to send us off to fight NATO's war or something like that, but something big is going to happen.

863
01:10:34,249 --> 01:10:37,289
The good news is that your generation is supposed to fix all these problems.

864
01:10:37,809 --> 01:10:41,109
And unfortunately for the Zoomers, they're the ones that get shoved into the meat grinder.

865
01:10:41,309 --> 01:10:42,729
So I'm like, I don't know what to tell you.

866
01:10:43,449 --> 01:10:46,549
Maybe you should, if you're a Zoomer watching this, you should probably like go

867
01:10:46,549 --> 01:10:48,589
apply to a seminary or something.

868
01:10:48,669 --> 01:10:49,749
You might avoid the draft.

869
01:10:51,069 --> 01:10:53,389
Well, that's what I was trying to give people real solutions here.

870
01:10:53,549 --> 01:10:54,029
You know what I mean?

871
01:10:54,249 --> 01:10:55,449
Well, that's what I was going to say.

872
01:10:55,509 --> 01:10:59,789
We've been talking about the advice you would give the administration, but you talk to a

873
01:10:59,789 --> 01:11:03,229
a lot of zoomers in your DMS. What advice are you, or what'd you give them?

874
01:11:03,449 --> 01:11:08,589
They're all burning their mega hats right now. It's like, I never voted for Republican. I voted

875
01:11:08,589 --> 01:11:13,109
Trump three times. How could he, how could he insult me like this? My entire career has been

876
01:11:13,109 --> 01:11:17,469
stolen by Indians and they all lie on their resumes. And how does he not know this? It's so bad. Like

877
01:11:17,469 --> 01:11:22,329
just stuff like that, just constant stream. Oh, I work in the electrical industry and I'm an

878
01:11:22,329 --> 01:11:26,169
electrical engineer and they've outsourced so much of it to India. And these people control

879
01:11:26,169 --> 01:11:29,769
our critical infrastructure. And if we ever got into war with them, it would all come crash

880
01:11:29,769 --> 01:11:34,529
down. We wouldn't have electricity for months. Like this is what I'm just getting constantly in

881
01:11:34,529 --> 01:11:40,669
my feed. And obviously it's like a focus group. It's not a poll, right? But it tells you a freaking

882
01:11:40,669 --> 01:11:46,009
lot. I mean, there's suicidal people. They're like, it's just bad. And you know, like no amount

883
01:11:46,009 --> 01:11:49,949
of boomers like, well, these people should just try not being crazy. Well, it's like, you're the

884
01:11:49,949 --> 01:11:56,669
ones that put them on SSRIs. These people like over a third of them have mental health diagnosis.

885
01:11:56,669 --> 01:12:01,609
their dating scene is horrifying all the women are feminists none of the women want to get married

886
01:12:01,609 --> 01:12:08,329
and procreate they all just want careers uh you know they get passed over on every like high-paying

887
01:12:08,329 --> 01:12:13,229
job ever they can't afford a house and they're getting they're getting called like you know

888
01:12:13,229 --> 01:12:17,249
they'd be a little bit edgy and they're trying to shut out of the society they get called

889
01:12:17,249 --> 01:12:23,229
anti-semitic or racist or whatever it's like they haven't the the forces creating people like

890
01:12:23,229 --> 01:12:28,989
Nick Fuentes have not been muted. And what they just tried to do was like, shut this guy down.

891
01:12:28,989 --> 01:12:34,069
And they wound up like his numbers are unbelievable now, like really incredible. So he's not going

892
01:12:34,069 --> 01:12:39,389
anywhere. Tucker's not going anywhere. And it's like, you can think of them as a feedback loop

893
01:12:39,389 --> 01:12:43,289
into the Republican party and into the right. And it's like, they're just going to get louder

894
01:12:43,289 --> 01:12:47,109
until you actually fix your core problems and your core problems. You've been completely

895
01:12:47,109 --> 01:12:51,689
corrupted by every special interest, except the voter. That's all Nick Fuentes is, is a guy who's

896
01:12:51,689 --> 01:12:56,229
like, Hey, I'm mad with my political party. We have real concerns that everybody's ignoring.

897
01:12:56,649 --> 01:13:00,309
And if you're going to ignore me, then I'm going to be super edgy to get your attention. And it

898
01:13:00,309 --> 01:13:06,249
worked. And, uh, you know, now he's, he's bigger than Ben Shapiro for sure. He's getting a ton of

899
01:13:06,249 --> 01:13:14,249
influence. I've got a normies in my life. I would never expect like bringing them up unprovoked.

900
01:13:14,249 --> 01:13:17,469
It's, uh, yeah.

901
01:13:17,829 --> 01:13:21,669
When you get normies watching Nick Fuentes and it's like, you know,

902
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:27,949
what, like it's like, obviously there's 5% of his content that I don't condone,

903
01:13:28,049 --> 01:13:32,329
but it's also not nearly as bad as the jokes that we all told each other when we were 12,

904
01:13:32,489 --> 01:13:34,249
like on, in the playground, you know what I mean?

905
01:13:34,529 --> 01:13:38,589
So it's like this weird situation where everybody's like clutching pearls about something that's

906
01:13:38,589 --> 01:13:39,669
like, like who cares?

907
01:13:39,749 --> 01:13:40,589
Like nobody cares.

908
01:13:40,589 --> 01:13:47,029
and uh again i don't know what his situation is like i don't like how he just came out and embraced

909
01:13:47,029 --> 01:13:53,029
like momdani socialism to create a new national socialist movement in america like that but

910
01:13:53,029 --> 01:14:02,349
again he's on rumble he's got 14x fewer subscribers than ben shapiro and on a much more terrible

911
01:14:02,349 --> 01:14:09,849
platform without an algorithm he surpasses ben shapiro's views easily so i look at his views and

912
01:14:09,849 --> 01:14:12,629
And I say, well, there's probably five to 10 million people watching his content.

913
01:14:12,869 --> 01:14:19,829
And then you see stuff like the Stanford Review published an article that says that 25 percent of their incoming freshman class are groopers.

914
01:14:22,009 --> 01:14:27,489
Stanford, like how they have an anonymous poll where people feel comfortable.

915
01:14:27,869 --> 01:14:30,829
I don't know what it was. I saw Mike Mark Dice say it.

916
01:14:30,829 --> 01:14:39,269
And it's like, you know, then there's the other stuff where it's like, oh, like 30 to 40 percent of conservative men on Capitol Hill identify with Nick Fuentes' movement.

917
01:14:39,849 --> 01:14:44,089
That's like, I mean, it's a feedback loop.

918
01:14:44,089 --> 01:14:47,209
And when things go wrong, the feedback loops get stronger.

919
01:14:47,869 --> 01:14:53,349
And, you know, the problem here is, is like you have this, it's more than just economical, right?

920
01:14:53,389 --> 01:14:57,589
And we all know that there's problems in America that are worse than just the economical problems.

921
01:14:57,949 --> 01:15:08,369
It's like major problems with like feminism and what lack of cultural assimilation, like all these forces, the de-churching of America,

922
01:15:08,369 --> 01:15:12,709
Like all these forces are part of the fourth turning and what has helped destroy our system.

923
01:15:13,009 --> 01:15:25,509
Like, yes, it's pretty obvious that if you take religion out of society, you're going to have people in leadership positions who are going to be more rent seeking and more personally interested in their own financial gain.

924
01:15:25,949 --> 01:15:30,089
And it's like, OK, well, you haven't replaced that with any value system.

925
01:15:30,389 --> 01:15:37,569
We literally took the 10 commandments out of school and now the kids wanted people shot that they disagree with.

926
01:15:37,569 --> 01:15:41,309
It's like, yeah, that's, you know, like that's the kind of thing that happens when you do that.

927
01:15:41,929 --> 01:15:45,829
So that's part of the feedback loop that Nick Fuentes is saying.

928
01:15:45,909 --> 01:15:48,249
It's like, I see you big business Republican scumbags.

929
01:15:48,429 --> 01:15:58,569
Not only have you sold America out, you helped undermine the societal fabric that gave me a society that's unrecognizable to the boomers who grew up just 60 years ago in a very different America.

930
01:15:59,649 --> 01:15:59,809
Yeah.

931
01:16:00,209 --> 01:16:05,309
I mean, you can replace secular religion, but the vacuum is going to, something's going to replace.

932
01:16:05,309 --> 01:16:07,729
You can take it out, but something's going to replace it.

933
01:16:07,789 --> 01:16:11,009
And that's been, I think, the woke mind virus.

934
01:16:11,889 --> 01:16:12,329
Yeah.

935
01:16:13,829 --> 01:16:15,369
No, that's the thing I think about a lot.

936
01:16:15,469 --> 01:16:28,051
I come from a big Irish Catholic family in the Northeast and very fortunate to have a very strong nuclear family and extended family And we still close to these days close to these days

937
01:16:30,592 --> 01:16:33,111
But the younger generations are like, Hey, that's what I worry about.

938
01:16:33,192 --> 01:16:37,271
I look at even some people my age that haven't started having kids.

939
01:16:37,271 --> 01:16:38,971
And that's, that's when things really get weird.

940
01:16:39,012 --> 01:16:42,212
And I've seen this firsthand in the inner city in Chicago,

941
01:16:42,212 --> 01:16:46,151
when the nuclear family is disintegrated, completely tears apart.

942
01:16:46,151 --> 01:16:55,412
whole neighborhood societies at large. And I think that is the thing that worries me most is this

943
01:16:55,412 --> 01:17:02,992
lack of family formation. Well, I think that's part of the good news here. Like the silver

944
01:17:02,992 --> 01:17:08,851
lining to the storm cloud is that I think everybody for so long, and maybe it's the

945
01:17:08,851 --> 01:17:13,752
boomer politics or whatever, has been sort of like preaching values, but it's been push. It's

946
01:17:13,752 --> 01:17:17,452
like, you need to be more conservative. You need to be more Christian. Why aren't you procreating?

947
01:17:17,592 --> 01:17:21,572
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You need to work harder. And I think the values are actually like

948
01:17:21,572 --> 01:17:25,792
kind of pull, right? It's like, okay, well, there's a huge crisis and we have to solve it.

949
01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:29,672
Oh man, we better get our crap together. Like, I think there's an aspect of that. You know what I

950
01:17:29,672 --> 01:17:35,391
mean? Like, yes, the GI generation, yes, the silent generation stepped up and volunteered to

951
01:17:35,391 --> 01:17:41,012
go overseas and fight against the axis, right? Like that happened. But it's like, well, if you

952
01:17:41,012 --> 01:17:46,331
look at the twenties and the flapper movement and the great depression. And like, you just wonder

953
01:17:46,331 --> 01:17:54,932
like, well, you know, was, was that America always there that enlisted to go beat, you know,

954
01:17:54,932 --> 01:17:59,451
Nazi Hitler, right? Nazi Germany. I don't think it was, I think people came together and said,

955
01:17:59,492 --> 01:18:04,752
you know what, this is a cause we're fighting for. We need to put our problems away and get

956
01:18:04,752 --> 01:18:09,172
our crap together. And I think we're going to see that. And I think increased economic opportunity

957
01:18:09,172 --> 01:18:16,512
will probably be one of the biggest forces for rechurching, refocusing on familial values,

958
01:18:17,271 --> 01:18:23,572
conservatism. Charlie Kirk said this, the three Ms, mortgage, marriage, and whatever the other one

959
01:18:23,572 --> 01:18:27,912
was, maternal. I don't know. What was the other Ms? Like have kids get married, get a house.

960
01:18:28,611 --> 01:18:33,432
And that's the kind of thing that gets people into the conservative movement. She's like,

961
01:18:33,492 --> 01:18:37,971
okay, now you have something to protect. And people say this about the schools too. All the

962
01:18:37,971 --> 01:18:40,971
schools are terrible. We should fix the schools. Well, it's like, you know what? If corporate

963
01:18:40,971 --> 01:18:46,332
America couldn't hire all of Bangalore, then we would be training our kids better.

964
01:18:47,932 --> 01:18:52,391
Yeah. Then, you know, they would, they would need it. We would have coding bootcamps in high school.

965
01:18:52,471 --> 01:18:58,131
We would have a job, you know, fairs, you know? Yeah. Well, that's, I mean, that's another silver

966
01:18:58,131 --> 01:19:05,811
lining intended on a positive note. Um, if the will is there, the opportunity to actually affect

967
01:19:05,811 --> 01:19:12,032
the will has never been easier and better. I mean, talk about reshoring, reeducating,

968
01:19:12,131 --> 01:19:18,252
like the ability to learn things on the internet is like, if you were to hand this technology to

969
01:19:18,252 --> 01:19:22,951
somebody a hundred years ago, that'd be mind blown. Like if there's a will there, the way does

970
01:19:22,951 --> 01:19:31,951
exist. Uh, and I could easily see a quick reshoring and sort of reeducating of the workforce to,

971
01:19:31,951 --> 01:19:38,932
to step up if if the will was there not only from the political class but from the citizenry as well

972
01:19:38,932 --> 01:19:45,932
yeah i mean trump doesn't want colleges to go out of business but the entire computer science

973
01:19:45,932 --> 01:19:51,172
undergrad curriculum for mit is on the internet right now you could walk through it probably about

974
01:19:51,172 --> 01:19:56,252
eight months is my guess right so it's like what are we even doing yeah i mean we're like

975
01:19:56,252 --> 01:20:01,672
supporting an entire industry that's completely doesn't need to be there okay it's radicalizing

976
01:20:01,672 --> 01:20:04,172
everybody. Yeah. I'm actually like the FDR meme. It's like,

977
01:20:04,192 --> 01:20:07,051
why would you want to be associated with the university system?

978
01:20:07,051 --> 01:20:11,771
That's indoctrinating people to work against the will of what you claim your

979
01:20:11,771 --> 01:20:14,151
policies are trying to affect.

980
01:20:16,672 --> 01:20:21,771
Mark, it's been great. Thank you for everything that you do. I think,

981
01:20:21,851 --> 01:20:24,012
I think whether you recognize it or not,

982
01:20:24,051 --> 01:20:28,151
you've become part of the zeitgeist of the,

983
01:20:28,151 --> 01:20:31,372
of the younger generations that aren't,

984
01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:35,252
aren't being acknowledged or listened to by the boomer political class right

985
01:20:35,252 --> 01:20:35,912
now.

986
01:20:36,512 --> 01:20:39,072
I think it's important whether you realize it or not.

987
01:20:39,111 --> 01:20:40,151
I think it's important work.

988
01:20:40,151 --> 01:20:45,792
And I do believe that we are in a memetic warfare and you are providing a

989
01:20:45,792 --> 01:20:47,351
lot of good,

990
01:20:47,391 --> 01:20:51,012
good material and ammunition to fight this war.

991
01:20:51,092 --> 01:20:51,951
Cause at the end of the day,

992
01:20:51,992 --> 01:20:58,111
and to your point I'm one of those people who's pretty much convinced that

993
01:20:58,111 --> 01:21:02,891
We're not going to solve these problems via the traditional political avenues and apparatus.

994
01:21:02,891 --> 01:21:08,851
Like we need people to realize that it's a somewhat of a lost cause.

995
01:21:08,932 --> 01:21:15,672
And we just need to congregate and organize outside of that to try to fix things.

996
01:21:15,891 --> 01:21:19,651
That's why I focus on Bitcoin, because it gives you the opportunity to do so.

997
01:21:19,731 --> 01:21:20,572
You don't need to ask permission.

998
01:21:20,712 --> 01:21:21,891
You can just start building around it.

999
01:21:23,611 --> 01:21:27,992
No, I think Bitcoin, for instance, is a forcing function, just like Nick Fuentes is a

1000
01:21:27,992 --> 01:21:31,992
forcing function. Nick Fuentes is a forcing function on politics. Bitcoin is a forcing

1001
01:21:31,992 --> 01:21:37,611
function on finance. And I think all these things are being brought to bear against the system

1002
01:21:37,611 --> 01:21:43,311
that is weakening very, very, very rapidly. And so that's why I think like, it's all going to,

1003
01:21:43,492 --> 01:21:47,051
it's all going to go crazy in the next like three or four years. Like already this stuff

1004
01:21:47,051 --> 01:21:50,412
with Venezuela and the implications with the whole voting system, like, I don't know,

1005
01:21:50,432 --> 01:21:54,891
it might speed up. But yeah, you know, I'm just a guy shitposting in my basement and doing my best

1006
01:21:54,891 --> 01:21:58,451
trying to save the world from my four gen alphas.

1007
01:21:58,572 --> 01:21:59,912
I'm going to have four gen alphas now.

1008
01:22:00,111 --> 01:22:04,072
So I don't usually gen alpha gets through the crisis pretty OK.

1009
01:22:04,971 --> 01:22:07,292
So maybe I'm looking out there for those zoomers.

1010
01:22:07,372 --> 01:22:12,731
I don't want to have to go send them over to the to the muck in Eurasia fighting against

1011
01:22:12,731 --> 01:22:17,592
Russia, who should be our ally, you know, while China gets us ready for our civil war.

1012
01:22:17,592 --> 01:22:20,951
So, you know, I really appreciate it and doing my best.

1013
01:22:22,012 --> 01:22:22,971
Well, thank you, sir.

1014
01:22:22,971 --> 01:22:25,431
we'll link to your ex,

1015
01:22:25,592 --> 01:22:27,872
Rasmus and everything else in the show notes.

1016
01:22:27,971 --> 01:22:28,771
Thank you for your time.

1017
01:22:28,831 --> 01:22:29,992
And I hope you enjoy your Thanksgiving.

1018
01:22:30,971 --> 01:22:31,131
Yeah,

1019
01:22:31,172 --> 01:22:31,551
likewise.

1020
01:22:31,811 --> 01:22:32,271
Great to be here.

1021
01:22:32,331 --> 01:22:32,551
Thanks.

1022
01:22:33,032 --> 01:22:33,292
All right.

1023
01:22:33,351 --> 01:22:34,032
Peace and love freaks.

1024
01:22:34,771 --> 01:22:36,931
Thank you for listening to this episode of TFTC.

1025
01:22:37,431 --> 01:22:38,672
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1026
01:22:38,831 --> 01:22:40,992
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1027
01:22:41,412 --> 01:22:42,032
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1028
01:22:42,131 --> 01:22:45,351
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1029
01:22:45,351 --> 01:22:46,811
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1030
01:22:47,631 --> 01:22:48,032
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1031
01:22:48,551 --> 01:22:49,331
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1032
01:22:49,471 --> 01:22:50,231
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01:22:50,611 --> 01:22:50,912
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1034
01:22:51,172 --> 01:22:51,611
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1035
01:22:51,611 --> 01:22:58,151
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1036
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