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You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

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If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

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So it's all acting like safe haven.

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I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

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currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

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I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.

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If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

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Okay, cool. All right.

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Maybe it's the R stands for retarded.

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Well, so far, I can't argue with you. It seems that way, doesn't it?

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There is a certain parallel universe going on here.

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Yeah, all right.

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Well, somebody is different than SSRIs, Dave.

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So my wife is coming off SNRIs, which turn out to be a horrific class of drug.

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I can't rule out the possibility that it has saved people's lives, but they throw standard people on them.

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And she was on Effexor for about 15 years at least at a high dose for pain management,

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which because there's well, there's rumor that could help probably in the New England

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Journal of Medicine where they lie their ass off about what could could work.

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And she has to go off it for complex reasons.

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And and so we tapered down over what we thought was a rational tapering period

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to find out that if you instead of listening to the authorities tell you how to taper off,

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you listen to people who've tapered off what you discover is that a calendar year of tapering

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is is bare minimum well and and then you discover people who have tapered off

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whose brains are completely fucked up and they've been fucked up for years

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and then you learn about people who go back on it for obvious reasons and some percentage of them

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when they go back on it, they don't recover.

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And so it's really just a nasty situation.

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So she has these wild panic attacks and has trouble control,

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thermal regulating, and she doesn't have brain zaps for those who know this world.

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But it's conceivable it's not a fixable problem.

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and it's all because pharma wants to sell us effector and prozac and all that crap yeah yeah

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it's uh again i'm sorry to hear that and i was telling you some personal stories with uh

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family members on ssris and just being thrust upon them during a time of deep stress but trying

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to wean them off it's like it's uh it's not easy and i mean i think it gets to the crux of

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a lot of our ongoing conversations, both the three of us together and then Dave, you and I

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independently over the years, which is like this rot at the core of the system, which is fucked up

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with bad incentives and just manifest in different ways. And in this case, the pharma industry.

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Well, the one I jumped on first before we even taped it off is just by coincidence. They wanted

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to put her on statins because she had her legs checked for circulation because she's had so many

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surgeries. And one of her legs was getting 50%. And the doc wanted to put her on statins immediately.

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And I had heard bad things about statins. So I said, no, we're waiting. And she went to a

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specialist and the specialist said, no, your leg's been hammered about 25 times by surgeons.

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It's not about statins. Your cholesterol is fine. This is nuts. She went back to her GP and her GP

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still wanted her to go on statins. And then you read about statins and you discover that, well,

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first and foremost, your body has cholesterol for a fucking reason. It's not there as a byproduct

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or anything. It's not something you want to drive to zero. And the side effects of statins turn out

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to be excruciating lower limb pain, which by the way, that's a problem, and swelling and early

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onset dementia. And there's people who talk about ending up in wheelchairs within two years. People

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wind up demented within two years. I mean, it's a real nightmare. So I actually went on Twitter and

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said, give me an anecdote. Give me anything you got. Has someone in your family been on a stat?

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And then what was your experience? And I got about 500 responses. And I would say 495 of them

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were don't touch those things. Yeah, I'll give you another. I'll give you I'll be part of that five.

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I've been on it for 14 years.

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is dead in their 40s.

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So it a See that a good case then Yeah yeah yeah yeah But I mean I had buddies tell me right away 14 years ago dude you can take Lipitor I take Lipitor

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And they go, it's going to, your joints, everything you're saying, I believe.

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But I asked my doctor, who I really love, because he saved my life a few times.

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And I said, is it acute or is it chronic?

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And he goes, it's acute.

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You'll know within a short period of time.

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I go, so it's not like I take him for 14 years.

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and then suddenly, now the early onset dementia, clearly I succumbed to that.

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That's what the R stands for, by the way.

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The R, I think, is totally appropriate.

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Well, you can't say that.

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That's very offensive.

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But I'm just saying, I agree for many people it's a bad choice.

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because immediately started having, or actually went off it because of symptoms like you're saying.

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So I think it just, you know, everybody's body, you know, is different, you know, and I've had things happen to me that, you know, it's not in the literature, but I'm saying I'm telling you, it's the drug, you know, and so I think like you said a minute ago, like, instead of trusting the quote unquote experts, trust people who've been through this, you know, like with the SSRI.

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That's exactly, that's the epiphany.

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You know, I used to tell people when you go on a new drug, go on Twitter.

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This seems crazy to people.

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They go, what are you talking about?

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You're getting your medical advice from Twitter?

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And my wife was on a drug called Keprin and made her batshit crazy angry.

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Now, batshit crazy is bad, angry on top of it.

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My wife's a bitch.

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And he's going, mine is too.

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What's your point?

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And he said, it's the Keppra.

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This is before I realized I should do this.

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So by the way, back to the statins, I did a poll thinking maybe only the people with horrible experiences are answering.

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But polls tend to poll on people who just want to see the result.

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And the choices were no one on statins so they could see the result.

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No side effects, minor side effects, major side effects.

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62% major side effects.

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No, I don't doubt that.

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I mean, that could be very possible.

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I love these commercials, you know.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Go ahead, go ahead.

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I'll interrupt you.

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You know, take this drug.

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And then the list of side effects is like, you know, suicidal and homicidal thoughts.

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And I mean, you know more about this than I do.

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But I'm always cracking up.

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I'm going, dude, it's not worth it.

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The risk of reward here is not worth it.

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Well, so here's what the drug does passively to caregivers like me is it gives them homicidal ideation.

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Well, I could see living with you.

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That's understandable.

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The homicidal ideation is me.

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The homicidal ideation is me.

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Well, it's crazy, too, really.

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I mean, I think it's more well-known now than it was maybe a few years ago,

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but we're one of two countries that allows pharma companies to advertise in that way on television.

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And this is, I mean, maybe this can dovetail into the broader conversation of where we are today.

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This is supposed to be one of the larger topics that this administration tackled with Maha,

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taking care of all this stuff, getting to the root of the corruption in the medical industry.

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What's your perception on how well they've done that up to this point?

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didn't trump promise at some point to to stop the commercials i forget was that robert kennedy

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bringing glass people back and they're getting written and carried interest and all that i mean

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it's yeah it's bad um i don't know i think it's us in new zealand allow um uh on-air drugs ads and

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when i'm by the way total total nazis during covet oh my god i mean i made fun of that what's her

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name, Ardern or whatever her name was. Bucktooth. Yeah, she was ridiculous. I mean, I keep playing

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this clip where she says, you know, we continue to be your single source of truth. And if you don't

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hear from us, it is not the truth. And I'm just cracking up. That's an amazing clip. It's an

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amazing clip. And she also looks like she's now a coquette. Oh, she's, yeah, yeah, we recognize

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the sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's twitching. She's like, who's the one in Canada? Christia Freeland.

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bobbling away, tweaking.

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that it's well known that she's totally drugged out

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of her mind Right right And probably very compromised too obviously They all compromised Seems that way They all compromised So the bottom line is

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Yes. Well, Nick Bryant was making a comment about that senator that was caught in the bathroom, you know, propositioning a cop.

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And he's like, you know, how hard is it to entangle these guys or blackmail?

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I mean, this guy is hitting on guys in public restrooms at airports, right?

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He's a senator. So and I always joke, how long do you think it would take to entrap Clinton or Trump?

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I mean, it's worse than that. So one day one day I'm on I'm listening to a Janda guy named Janda.

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Dave Janda, I think is his name, who was undersecretary of something or other in Bush administration.

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And and and and I actually was on a Zoom call with a couple of generals.

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And when I mentioned Janda and I said, is he a good guy? And they said, oh, yeah, he's really good guy.

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So Janda's being interviewed and he says his first week inside the beltway, he gets hauled off to the side by a grizzled veteran and says, whatever you do, don't go to a private party.

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And he says, what do you mean?

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He says, don't go to a private party.

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He says, why?

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And he says, and he goes, even if it's at the vice president's house, which, by the way, was Cheney at the time.

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And the guy says, you will wake up with a Polaroid clipped gear lapel and a total fog with you and a five-year-old.

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Like in Godfather 2.

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They will drug you at the party.

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They will drug you at the party.

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It's not even just a political question.

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James O'Keefe.

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Tim Birchett said the same thing.

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But it's also about this federal bureaucracy.

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I mean, James O'Keefe had a video this morning or this week where he incriminated somebody at the Pentagon saying they're going to roll back any changes that are made during this administration.

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and he was basically on a grinder date with James O'Keefe

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with a fake mustache on and baby powder in his hair.

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It's like, how many times does this guy need to go?

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I thought he was missing.

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I thought he was AWOL.

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I didn't know he came back.

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No, he did.

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There's some weird psychology going on in that city.

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And I've had to spend more time in that city in the last six months

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than I did in the first 34 years of my life.

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You can feel it in the air.

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I've been going to D.C. like once a month.

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Apparently, once you spend time talking to these guys, the sense of corruption is overwhelming.

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Well, that gets to the question, are we just in the unabashed looting of the Treasury stage?

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I mean, you look at what's going on.

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I mean, as it pertains to what we're doing in the Bitcoin world right now, the Clarity Act is obviously the big.

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topic of discussion and like the main thing holding it up is this ethics clause about

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like this revolves around trump's ability to trade like mean coins and crypto and his

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families being able to do it and they came out with a stat earlier this year like trump

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made 1.9 billion dollars off of some of his crypto trades is like more he doesn't take

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a salary marty he doesn't take a salary okay so give the guy a break it's more profit than

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Coinbase made last year, which is like the same thing.

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How's Melania coin doing?

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Is that doing good?

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That went straight to zero.

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Where's Melania is a better question even.

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Where is she?

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Probably hanging with, what's that guy's name, Powell?

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Epstein.

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Epstein.

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Yeah, I hooked her up with.

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Where is Mitch McConnell?

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That is another question.

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He's in a refrigerator.

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He's like a GOP.

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He seems, you know, they're going to, if he's still alive, they'll wheel him out and push

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a button to vote.

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You know, it's ridiculous. They're all the same. Maxine Waters. Grassley is like, I don't know, he's like 105 or something.

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There's a whole bunch of them that are in their 80s and 90s that have lost it.

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I was making McConnell jokes, you know, like 10 years ago.

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The guy was like, he would have moments of, and they've gotten much worse over the years.

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But he should not be, he should not be driving a car. He should certainly not be a U.S. senator and voting on things.

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You know, he's got so much fun on the string.

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I mean, I think that's the point. He's obviously not voting on these things.

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He's just a puppet.

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Well, you can get that Randy Fine.

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You see the video of Randy Fine voting for missing congressmen that weren't there?

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There's a video of him, you know, that Randy Fine scumbag.

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Oh, walking along, voting along.

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Yeah, exactly.

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In Congress.

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Yeah, that was great.

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Yeah, I really like Randy Fine and all his political views, too.

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Well, you know, there's no, I mean, Porter Collins said it good the other day,

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is there's no adults anywhere.

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They're not in the government.

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There's no, I mean, there's no adults in regulation.

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I mean, Trump actually actively, you know, embraces corruption.

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And, you know, he's pardoned over 70 people, just a fraud.

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I mean, look what he's doing now, like Marty said, looting the Treasury.

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I mean, I don't know.

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There's no cops on the beat that I can see.

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Congress is completely owned by other country.

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And the Supreme Court, I guess, gets things like five years later.

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But and you know with mixed results there Way too late There no breaks on this administration We gave the executive way too much power on Bush and Cheney and it just metastasized over the years

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And everything that Trump does is going to be done by some president in the future that you really hate.

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You know, even if people love this, if you love Trump, you're going to have like Mondami elected and he's going to do the opposite.

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Everything Trump did only works.

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So be careful what you wish for.

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We have a set up.

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Mondami's not even looking that bad on the scale of one to 10.

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Well, you know, he's not the one that's blowing up schools in Iran.

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He's not the one that's destroying the middle class.

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He's not the one that's, you know, has that that allows massive inflation without doing anything about it.

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So I'm not, you know, you know, is Mondami, do I love his olive ideas?

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No, but he's not my enemy.

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You know, he's not my main enemy.

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My main enemy is the people that have been around this country.

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the last fight. Clinton had

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1115 pardons.

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At one point, they were easy to find. It was a top search link on Google.

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Now they're kind of buried, but you can find them. They're there.

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They were all drugs and bank fraud.

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He ran a drug empire in Arkansas.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, OK, I can I can understand that. But I mean, now it's like I mean, Trump just I mean, Biden's pardons were unconscionable.

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I mean, you know, just at the end and blanket pardons and you get pardoned from 2014 on and all that bullshit.

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I don't even think those are legal, but no one cares about the law.

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No one cares. Like there's no adult. There's no cops on the beat. And and then now Trump is just making a farce.

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The whole thing is basically he's blatantly selling, you know, to major criminals, major criminals.

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Yeah. As you know, I had hope for him. And as I've said so many times, it's not that I had great hope.

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He seemed like our last hope. And now our last hope is gone.

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Yeah. He's done the opposite of everything he promised. And and it's it's pathetic.

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And then Joe Ken, I saw an interview the other day talking about something flipped in June of 2025 from his point of view.

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He said Trump was never interested in a war.

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He didn't want it.

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Something happened.

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I assume something happened.

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You know, Netanyahu showed him.

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So it's bad.

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It's bad.

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It obviously corrupted.

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I mean, obviously, look at the vote, you know, to merge our, you know, military procurement and other intelligence with Israel.

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And there's like four Republicans vote against it.

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Four Republicans.

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Now, I hate both parties.

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I hope people know by now.

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But I mean, my God, I'm never going to vote Republican again.

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All right.

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I mean, I'm going to write in Tom Massey like I used to write in Ron Paul.

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And I tell people, hey, if you're liberal, write in Ro Khanna.

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You know, do I agree with him on everything?

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I had dinner with Ron Paul once.

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Oh, good.

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They sat me next to him because it turns out he's a pretty shy guy.

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You brought Paul.

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Yeah.

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He's a great guy.

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He's a hero.

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He's one guy that I respect in government in the last week.

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I was an endorser on his homepage of his 2008 campaign.

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The homepage, my name was there endorsing him.

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I voted for him many times.

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And then I'm at dinner and I said, I apologized to him.

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I said, I have to do this. And I hand my camera across the table to the lady.

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I said, could you take a photo? And she I watched her blow it.

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She hands the camera back and she took a picture of Ron Paul.

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And I said, I can get these off the Internet. I was kind of hoping to be in it.

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Oh, right, right, right. So in any case, he's a genuinely nice.

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He's authentic.

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um massey has done some things that don't quite make sense to me so i haven't in any way shape

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if i'm giving up but he seems to have had information that he didn't release yeah i hear

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you you don't know who to trust 100 nowadays and and so he's he's the one i trust the most but i

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you know i like ron johnson ron johnson i think is very good yeah i'm less familiar with ron

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bouncing. I hear you. You can't. I mean, I had hope for Tulsi Gabbard. And then, I mean,

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you know, it didn't really work out. I had hope for Robert Kennedy Jr. or Robert F.

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You know, and and that didn't work out really. You know, it's like everybody look at Joe Hedges.

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Do you think Kennedy failed because he couldn't beat them? Or do you think it was never going to be?

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Well, he's kind of been swamp adjacent for his whole life, you know, so who knows what maybe

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he's got a compromise too.

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I mean, he's got a lot to be compromised.

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I know.

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I don't know.

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I mean, are they threatening you?

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Maybe they just stay,

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maybe they don't even have to have any black on you

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to just say, you know what?

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We're going to kill you.

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Marty, you're getting a lot of wind.

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Marty, I think you're getting a lot of wind.

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I think that's Rudy.

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Rudy, are you walking?

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No, I'm on the roof.

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I'm going to go.

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I'm going to go back inside.

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Sorry, guys.

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OK.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Dave, while you're throwing noise, noise arrows, your dog snores again.

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Here's the funny thing.

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Whenever I listen to the podcast, which people say my dog's snoring, I can't hear it in the

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recorded podcast.

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So what I try to do is keep them awake by scratching them so that they don't go into

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REM sleep.

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But my wife's in the other room and I can't let the dogs in because she can't take the

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beating of the dogs.

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Shut up.

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Sorry, I don't have a lot of choice on this one.

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Yeah, much better.

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Yeah, much better.

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You said there's no hope.

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Is there...

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Go ahead.

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There's no hope at all.

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Is there a new hope?

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Let's bring a cheesy Star Wars reference into this.

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Like, what is the option?

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There is another?

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Princess Leia would give me hope.

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Because the other thing, too, is like the contradiction,

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like the Saudi nuclear deal,

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like right in the middle of bombing Iran for enrichment?

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It's like, what's going on there?

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Like, shouldn't we?

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I think there is hope.

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Have anybody building more nukes?

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Yeah, I'll be hopeful.

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It's, you know, we felt, I've talked about this before,

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back in the 70s, we had, we were,

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and we were, 60s and 70s,

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we were very divided over Vietnam War.

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And then we had the debacle and, you know,

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we had the inflation, we had the 75th of Vietnam.

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It was an embarrassing loss, kind of like a mistake.

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And, you know, people were down high inflation recessions back then.

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And and then the Carter just wasn't, you know, I think he's the best ex-president, but he he wasn't really a guy that inspired confidence.

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And everybody was kind of feeling like today, like, what is all I mean?

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No, actually not. This is much worse now.

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But I'm saying there was a lot of despair back then.

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Like, well, it can't get any better. Remember, Carter does this famous malaise speech, which I remember, like, I think in 1980.

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And then you had the whole Iran hostage thing in 79.

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And that was very demoralizing.

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Like, oh, here, we're getting our ass kicked by these by these moles.

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And actually, it was a widespread protest.

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And then the moles took over after they got rid of the Shah, you know, and because, you

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know, they're pretty brutal.

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They were more brutal than the students.

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But it was a bad time.

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And then we had a and people, by the way, people say, oh, we've had this war with Iran

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for 47 years, you know, ever since 1979.

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Well, you know what?

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There's a reason that Iran's kind of ticked off at us because in 53, we overthrew the

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democratically elected president, and we installed a dictator, and he was a brutal dictator,

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and they're kind of ticked off about that.

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So the Americans have no such a history.

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72% of Americans in a poll like five years ago didn't know where it ran, but couldn't

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find it on a map or even get close.

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So then we have this rescue mission in 79.

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I don't know if you remember Desert Eagle or something, and we tried to rescue the hostages,

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and it ended in a helicopter crash and people dying, ran out with our tail between our legs.

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So I would put that as our bottom of that era.

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And then here comes Ron Reagan.

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Now, I'm not going to defend a lot of problems we have today.

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Probably started under Reagan.

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And he had some bad people around him.

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But he'd come on and he was like inclusive.

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He was not divisive.

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He was self-deprecating.

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He had a sense of humor.

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He didn't call the Democrats, you know, demon crats and call them communists and say they should all be, you know, go to jail and all that like Trump.

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he was you know even he'd go have you know a beer with tip o'neill and i think he won an alana you

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know he won the election in 80 and 84 i think in 84 he even had won a huge landslide because i think

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largely because you got people feeling like hey we're yeah things are tough but we're all in this

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together but now i think people they say yeah things are tough but trump and his buddies only

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care about one thing they're trump and his buddies i mean it's it's there's no he doesn't care about

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America at all, clearly. And neither does Letnick or any other Epstein class that he has in his

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administration. So that, I think, was what makes it worse today. And we need a leader who doesn't

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demonize people who don't agree with him. And we also need a return to accountability. There is no

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accountability for anything at any level. Who's accountable for the Fed's policy of actively

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seeking higher inflation five years ago. Who's responsible for Afghanistan? Who's responsible

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for Iraq? Who's been, I mean, who's been fired? You know, I think right today they fired some

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lieutenant colonel who said that we were doing Israel's interests in Iran. They fired him. That's

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who gets fired. Not the generals that have failed for my entire life. Not the generals that failed

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in Vietnam and Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan. Not the politicians. But you know, here's, and

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But you got to get rid of the deeper stuff of BS because Trump tweets these things like, oh, Hillary Clinton's going down and Barack Obama's most corrupt.

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They were treasonous.

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I'm like, OK, dude, you're calling people treasonous.

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That's a serious charge.

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Where's the evidence?

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I mean, I've been hearing for 35 years that the Clintons were about to go to jail.

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It's all kefab.

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You know what I mean?

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The wrestling.

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Anyway I let you guys pine in But don get me started on this There no accountability We need accountability We need to end too big to fail and we need to end too big to jail Yeah

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I mean, it seems like at least out of the gate,

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they tried to produce some form of accountability with Doge in the auditing.

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Obviously, USAID and other things have been cut,

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but they basically stopped dead in their tracks.

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And then obviously over the last year, we've had Nick Shirley

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and I think many others on the trail of this Medicaid, Medicare fraud,

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that seems to be pretty rampant throughout the country.

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And as a taxpayer, it's like, well, why am I contributing to this?

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It's just a blatant waste of money that in many cases is being used

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to actively against my interests as an individual American citizen.

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Do you trust Shirley to be legit or a limited hangout?

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I mean, I don't think it really matters.

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So I have a good friend in Maine, Steve Robinson.

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He writes for The Maine Wire, and he's a really good investigative journalist.

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And I trust him.

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I worked with him at Barstool Sports.

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I've known him for years.

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And independently in Maine, he was doing investigations for years before Shirley even came out

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and was uncovering the same Medicare scheme in Maine alone.

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So whether Shirley is some limited hangout to draw attention away from something or towards something that may not be as important as other things, maybe.

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But I think still that problem exists.

449
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It is wrong.

450
00:27:34,768 --> 00:27:36,168
As a taxpayer, I don't like it.

451
00:27:36,748 --> 00:27:37,748
What are your thoughts on Shirley?

452
00:27:37,928 --> 00:27:38,888
You think he's a limited hangout?

453
00:27:40,928 --> 00:27:42,088
I'm suspicious.

454
00:27:42,088 --> 00:27:50,548
he went from zero to 60 so fast that um i'm suspicious he's like harry kissen republican

455
00:27:50,548 --> 00:27:58,428
style or something you know um i i don't i don't trust anyone actually i asked rudy

456
00:27:58,428 --> 00:28:05,908
in a dm one day about and i don't need you to tell us what your answer was but i asked him about

457
00:28:05,908 --> 00:28:11,788
you know do you trust kiriyaku for example and i i would love to trust kiriyaku i would love to

458
00:28:11,788 --> 00:28:18,508
trust here i i just have this little voice in my head that says you can't you can't and i like his

459
00:28:18,508 --> 00:28:24,728
stories and stuff like that they seem a little times a little old a little overstated or something

460
00:28:24,728 --> 00:28:33,188
but um bustamante guys like that i don't trust him as far as i can chuck him um and and it gets

461
00:28:33,188 --> 00:28:37,048
back to, you know, was Tulsi good?

462
00:28:38,108 --> 00:28:41,168
I've been a Tulsi fan since well before she

463
00:28:41,168 --> 00:28:44,508
got near the national scene for 15 years, maybe.

464
00:28:46,188 --> 00:28:49,208
I don't know if you saw this, but she was

465
00:28:49,208 --> 00:28:53,208
she appears to have been in a cult. I did not

466
00:28:53,208 --> 00:28:55,968
see that. I don't know whether that's completely, oh, you haven't seen that?

467
00:28:57,228 --> 00:29:01,208
Suppose there's like 25,000 documents that basically trace her

468
00:29:01,208 --> 00:29:05,568
public statements directly from a guy who's running this cult.

469
00:29:07,488 --> 00:29:10,088
And I don't know what to make of that.

470
00:29:11,008 --> 00:29:12,148
Rudy, did you see that?

471
00:29:14,868 --> 00:29:16,788
Yeah, I'm familiar with that.

472
00:29:16,968 --> 00:29:21,328
I think what I do often, like I quoted Elizabeth Warren.

473
00:29:22,068 --> 00:29:23,888
Do I believe I you know what?

474
00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:25,208
I agree with what I quote.

475
00:29:25,428 --> 00:29:26,128
You know, I can't.

476
00:29:26,388 --> 00:29:30,848
I mean, if she comes out and says that corruption is bad, I'm going to I'm going to agree with

477
00:29:30,848 --> 00:29:34,608
Now, is there is she is she lying? Is she? You know what I mean?

478
00:29:34,628 --> 00:29:40,008
It's like I can't I can't vet everything anyone's ever done if I agree with something to do it right now.

479
00:29:40,128 --> 00:29:44,268
And I like I quoted Elizabeth Warren the other day, who I know you and I think she's a big phony.

480
00:29:45,088 --> 00:29:52,828
And and but I like that. But what I quoted was from her 2009 FCIC testimony, which I think was very good.

481
00:29:52,928 --> 00:29:58,168
It's before she got corrupted. And yet I get all people every time I do something like that, I could quote anybody.

482
00:29:58,168 --> 00:29:59,528
I could quote left or right.

483
00:29:59,968 --> 00:30:02,968
I get people saying, well, you know, that guy did this.

484
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:03,708
And I'm like, you know what?

485
00:30:03,748 --> 00:30:04,688
I endorse what I quote.

486
00:30:04,788 --> 00:30:05,508
So I say that a lot.

487
00:30:05,568 --> 00:30:06,288
I have no problem.

488
00:30:06,528 --> 00:30:12,628
Look at Ron Paul and Dennis or Tom Massey and Rokhan working together on things.

489
00:30:12,848 --> 00:30:14,108
Do they agree on everything?

490
00:30:14,228 --> 00:30:14,668
Hell no.

491
00:30:15,068 --> 00:30:18,148
You know, but on the Venn diagram where they intersect, let's work together.

492
00:30:18,428 --> 00:30:22,728
And I have people on the far left that follow me and people on the far right.

493
00:30:22,728 --> 00:30:27,208
and they're the minority of people who are able to, you know,

494
00:30:27,228 --> 00:30:30,468
I'm sure half my tweets tick them off, you know, and yet they're to say,

495
00:30:30,508 --> 00:30:32,608
oh, that's just, okay, I disagree with Rudy on that,

496
00:30:32,628 --> 00:30:34,528
but I agree on this other thing.

497
00:30:34,868 --> 00:30:36,808
And so I think we should be more like that.

498
00:30:37,048 --> 00:30:38,208
Now you've got a litmus test.

499
00:30:38,288 --> 00:30:40,528
If you disagree with me on one issue, then you're dead to me.

500
00:30:40,528 --> 00:30:46,608
You know, I mean, and, you know, so I just think we should try to find common ground.

501
00:30:46,988 --> 00:30:50,948
A very, very necessary thing today, left and right.

502
00:30:51,548 --> 00:30:52,328
I completely agree.

503
00:30:52,328 --> 00:30:56,408
And I mean, Dave, your comment is like you can't trust anybody.

504
00:30:56,408 --> 00:30:59,608
I think that's the right way to approach everything.

505
00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:07,548
And it's I think getting like how you fix this is one of the big sort of phrases of Bitcoin is don't trust verify.

506
00:31:07,748 --> 00:31:21,124
It like how can we get the system to a point where you don need to trust these politicians as much You can just verify that they actually doing the right thing and that would preclude like making the federal government much smaller um making

507
00:31:21,124 --> 00:31:28,004
these things much more auditable uh yeah and well that's what reagan said about the russians trust

508
00:31:28,004 --> 00:31:34,804
but verify that was what his favorite thing yeah and it's uh and it's like i wrote a newsletter

509
00:31:34,804 --> 00:31:39,924
about this earlier this week particularly in the context of like the rise of socialist leaning

510
00:31:39,924 --> 00:31:45,884
things for, um, from generate, uh, Gen Z. And it makes sense why they're leading socialists.

511
00:31:45,884 --> 00:31:50,544
Cause they, they've been taught that the system that they grow up in, like they've been taught

512
00:31:50,544 --> 00:31:55,544
that it's a capitalist system and there's many cast capitalistic aspects of our system. Like

513
00:31:55,544 --> 00:32:01,244
it's easy to start a business to take risk and to, he'll be back. He dropped earlier too,

514
00:32:01,404 --> 00:32:05,664
but like the point he was digitizing a little, were you hearing the digitizing?

515
00:32:05,664 --> 00:32:09,184
Yes, but that won't come through in post.

516
00:32:09,424 --> 00:32:11,304
That'll record locally.

517
00:32:11,404 --> 00:32:12,144
It'll come through clearer.

518
00:32:12,624 --> 00:32:16,344
Yeah, I was wondering if my house has got a very complex wiring diagram.

519
00:32:16,604 --> 00:32:22,364
And so if I walk through my house, I will go in and out of reach very quickly.

520
00:32:23,924 --> 00:32:32,164
I'm like a highly variable Faraday cage in this house because there's so many lights and circuits and stuff.

521
00:32:32,164 --> 00:32:33,364
The guy designed it.

522
00:32:33,364 --> 00:32:40,004
he it's great but it's it's makes it impossible to walk and have a conversation on the phone

523
00:32:40,004 --> 00:32:46,424
for example oh but um the point being like this you i mean you mentioned mom donnie like he's not

524
00:32:46,424 --> 00:32:51,104
your enemy but like i think long term the principles he stands on like democratic socialists

525
00:32:51,104 --> 00:32:55,884
like are an enemy that would make this worse off and the point i was making is like gen z is like

526
00:32:55,884 --> 00:33:00,224
i don't think he'll have the power to do it well you obviously can't run for president unless they

527
00:33:00,224 --> 00:33:05,304
change something. No, no, no. But I think, I think even in this current position, I think,

528
00:33:05,424 --> 00:33:11,404
I think there are people telling him what to do. Oh, that's very obvious. Like he's some

529
00:33:11,404 --> 00:33:16,604
theater kid. I know. You know, when, when Trump was running in 16 and it looked like it might be

530
00:33:16,604 --> 00:33:22,944
Trump versus Bernie, my brother and I talked excessively about whether we would vote for

531
00:33:22,944 --> 00:33:29,744
Trump or for Bernie, um, because Bernie's somewhat predictable and Trump was unpredictable.

532
00:33:30,224 --> 00:33:36,604
And and and we we talked about how the system would keep them in check.

533
00:33:37,684 --> 00:33:46,584
And and he was out there spewing shit about not supporting Israel the other day, unless it's AI.

534
00:33:46,864 --> 00:33:49,604
Right. That's that's the other problem we face.

535
00:33:50,604 --> 00:33:54,704
Well, I mean, do you think he he's pissed off?

536
00:33:54,944 --> 00:33:58,964
Do you think he's a bit pissed off about how things in Iran are going or anything expected?

537
00:33:58,964 --> 00:34:10,284
How could you not be? Right. There's so many things. And I'll tell you, there's a there's a Rorschach test for me going on right now.

538
00:34:10,284 --> 00:34:14,424
And I paid very close attention. And one could argue it's irrelevant.

539
00:34:14,964 --> 00:34:19,744
But it's because I view it as a Rorschach test. I'm paying very close attention.

540
00:34:19,944 --> 00:34:28,144
That's the Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson story. Because you can see people picking sides in ways that you go,

541
00:34:28,144 --> 00:34:39,204
I did not see that coming. And and and and I keep seeing this like like Megan Kelly, for example,

542
00:34:39,204 --> 00:34:44,324
I thought she was trying to get it right. And then all of a sudden she's out there giving the

543
00:34:44,324 --> 00:34:51,364
overwhelming evidence speech, which is just not right. There's just there's someone wants to debate

544
00:34:51,364 --> 00:34:57,044
me. And I said, I don't think so, because he said, because it's our understanding that you think

545
00:34:57,044 --> 00:35:01,104
everything Candace Owens says is correct. I go, no, I don't think everything Candace Owens is

546
00:35:01,104 --> 00:35:08,244
correct. No one thinks that. But we think she, you know, some of us think she's at least digging.

547
00:35:08,924 --> 00:35:14,464
And then all of a sudden, someone like Robbie Starbuck, who I have, I think he's done some

548
00:35:14,464 --> 00:35:20,024
really good journalistic work. All of a sudden comes out and does this total hit piece on Candace.

549
00:35:20,024 --> 00:35:25,344
And if he did it with facts, it would be one thing, but it was done with all the usual tricks

550
00:35:25,344 --> 00:35:31,584
to undermine a person by showing clips of her acting goofy and things like that.

551
00:35:31,624 --> 00:35:33,984
And I go, that's just that's dishonest to me.

552
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And then there's Megyn Kelly all of a sudden doing the overwhelming evidence.

553
00:35:39,624 --> 00:35:44,444
I'll tell you what's overwhelming is that I don't think you can convict Tyler Robinson

554
00:35:44,444 --> 00:35:45,564
based on what I've seen.

555
00:35:46,164 --> 00:35:50,744
Based on what I've seen, I don't think you can convict him in a standard court of law.

556
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Me personally, my journey over the last year is like, I just become so disenfranchised and

591
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dejected by the state of politics in America, geopolitics, like for like the last six months,

592
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,460
I don't want to say I'm distracted, but I've just been focused on like learning about AI

593
00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:29,500
and all that and like leaning, not leaning away, but just like, hey, I've spent years

594
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,700
down this rabbit hole. Nothing ever seems to happen. But like, what's going on with Tyler

595
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:37,580
Robinson? What are they? What's going on is that there's not a single shred of evidence. He did

596
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:43,700
anything. I think that you can make, you could possibly, possibly make the argument that he is

597
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:50,660
somehow involved. But to the extent there's hard evidence, the hard evidence is that there's a lot

598
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:58,120
of liars. The hard evidence is there's a lot of liars. And they're lying for a reason, and you

599
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:05,620
don't know why, but you can throw me any piece of information people claim is true about Tyler

600
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:11,220
robins i can tell you it's because it's just it's this massive campaign to get this guy convicted

601
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:17,220
and put away before we find out that israel wacked or something like that i don't know who did it but

602
00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:22,580
yeah what are the lies they're telling because it's all i mean it's all weird like the fact that

603
00:39:22,580 --> 00:39:27,300
they like bulldoze the stage and like concrete over it within within days

604
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:39,980
yeah yeah they had to get they had to get rid of the evidence if there was if there was a local

605
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:47,200
explosion like candace says i candace is exploding mike theory is about 80 meritorious and 20

606
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:56,160
um i don't understand it um but they dug up the dirt and and here here's the key if you listen to

607
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,900
her. Yeah. Well, they dug up the dirt. What's the deal with that? Why would they possibly

608
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:05,660
break down more about this than I do? So when they have to do it, this is the painful part.

609
00:40:05,860 --> 00:40:13,240
You have to watch her one hour presentations. And if she said Frank Turek is lying, she shows Frank

610
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:17,780
Turek a clip of him saying something. And then Frank Turek, a clip of him saying the opposite.

611
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:24,100
Right. She doesn't just say he's a liar. She shows he's a liar. And if you want just clips of

612
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,520
Candace, you're not getting a straight story.

613
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:29,100
You unfortunately have to put in the hard work to see it.

614
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,940
And she corrects herself all the time.

615
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,680
And like I like to say, if Seymour Hersh, if Seymour Hersh did one of his big, big exposés.

616
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,580
Right, right. Yeah.

617
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:41,940
But presented what he understood on a daily basis, you'd get a very different result.

618
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:46,940
Because the people he's going after would start playing defense.

619
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,840
They'd start evading.

620
00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:49,560
They'd start throwing out bullshit, right?

621
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Seymour Hersh would not be able to do what he did if he tipped his hand every single day as to what he was up to.

622
00:40:57,540 --> 00:41:02,540
And so so I've watched a ton of Candace Ryan and Baron Coleman, who, by the way, I don't trust Baron Coleman.

623
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,000
He showed up on Twitter exactly the month that Charlie got shot.

624
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:13,820
Seems too coincidental to me now. I think he's saying the right stuff, but he arrived exactly.

625
00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:18,480
Maybe that's what drew him to Twitter. I don't know. But but but but.

626
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,740
the videos of him limping along and you watch him carefully and he doesn't have a gun down his pant leg.

627
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:29,480
There's not a snowball's chance in hell he has a gun down his pant leg.

628
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,040
For one thing, because once in a while he forgets and he bends that leg.

629
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:39,960
And then there's not a single clear picture of his face, his license plate,

630
00:41:39,997 --> 00:41:46,177
anything there's nothing and and then that and during the testimony that the people are saying

631
00:41:46,177 --> 00:41:50,197
why did the defense do a b c and d and i go because it's a preliminary hearing you retard

632
00:41:50,197 --> 00:41:57,137
it's just it the defense doesn't the defense has no reason to spill tip their hand on anything

633
00:41:57,137 --> 00:42:00,757
they just but what they had to do is they had to counter some of the stuff

634
00:42:00,757 --> 00:42:05,497
because the prosecutor's trying to win the case before it starts

635
00:42:05,497 --> 00:42:11,957
down. So they're interviewing some guy and he says, and she says to him, she says, you

636
00:42:11,957 --> 00:42:20,557
reported that a woman had a security camera and she saw Tyler Robinson's car at 1245 AM, right?

637
00:42:20,557 --> 00:42:29,837
And he says, he says, he says, yes. And she said, did you mention in your testimony

638
00:42:29,837 --> 00:42:32,277
that he was bald.

639
00:42:33,457 --> 00:42:36,437
And he says, no, I didn't.

640
00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:40,317
And then she says, and in this reported sighting

641
00:42:40,317 --> 00:42:42,837
of Tyler Robinson's car, did you mention that the woman

642
00:42:42,837 --> 00:42:45,157
also said there were three other people in the car?

643
00:42:45,837 --> 00:42:48,137
And he says, no, I didn't.

644
00:42:48,357 --> 00:42:49,897
This is a cop on the stand.

645
00:42:51,757 --> 00:42:54,417
And then they interviewed Lance Twiggs,

646
00:42:54,457 --> 00:42:57,337
who, by the way, is a potential primary suspect.

647
00:42:57,557 --> 00:42:58,557
He could be the shooter.

648
00:42:59,837 --> 00:43:04,957
They literally talked to him the day after the shooting and this April.

649
00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:06,997
And that's it.

650
00:43:07,477 --> 00:43:11,357
And then they do a videotape and we see about a minute and a half clip and they get nothing.

651
00:43:11,557 --> 00:43:14,057
They got nothing out of that minute and a half clip.

652
00:43:14,057 --> 00:43:20,997
I mean, and he'd answer the question like, well, does that look like does that look like Tyler Robinson to you in those photos?

653
00:43:21,077 --> 00:43:26,357
He goes, well, I can't say for sure, but he dresses like him.

654
00:43:27,257 --> 00:43:29,397
I go, what the fuck is that?

655
00:43:29,417 --> 00:43:29,717
Right.

656
00:43:29,837 --> 00:43:33,637
And then he later on starts sort of trying to solidify it up.

657
00:43:33,777 --> 00:43:39,857
And then so I found the 20 minute clip where it was something like 20 out of 23 minutes total.

658
00:43:40,757 --> 00:43:42,937
And they got even less than the 20 minute clip.

659
00:43:43,437 --> 00:43:47,237
So here there's a critical, critical witness.

660
00:43:47,437 --> 00:43:48,797
And the guy's supposed to be a furry.

661
00:43:48,897 --> 00:43:51,117
And you look at me, go, he's not a fucking furry.

662
00:43:51,537 --> 00:43:54,057
He doesn't have any affectation you expect for a furry.

663
00:43:55,437 --> 00:43:58,937
He was he's been working construction for the last eight months.

664
00:43:59,837 --> 00:44:06,797
This guy's not a furry. And he shockingly looks similar to Tyler Robinson.

665
00:44:07,277 --> 00:44:10,877
You go, yeah, cut his hair right. I'd be the same guy if you put a little fur.

666
00:44:10,877 --> 00:44:15,817
You can't even see the light. These are security cameras in the parking garages, right?

667
00:44:16,877 --> 00:44:20,657
If you have a security camera in the parking garage, what do you need to see above all else?

668
00:44:20,797 --> 00:44:25,277
The fucking license plate. You can't see the license plates.

669
00:44:26,017 --> 00:44:31,817
Candace Owens pointed out that, by the way, in these Dodge Chargers of the era,

670
00:44:31,937 --> 00:44:36,097
it's kind of a weird car, there's double barrel exhaust and single.

671
00:44:36,097 --> 00:44:39,437
And the car, they keep showing us a single barrel exhaust.

672
00:44:39,957 --> 00:44:44,277
And then the car that got towed was double barrel exhaust, things like that.

673
00:44:44,537 --> 00:44:49,617
There's literally no fact that holds up in this case that holds up to scrutiny.

674
00:44:49,917 --> 00:44:50,257
None.

675
00:44:50,257 --> 00:44:58,297
and the screwdriver that the screwdriver found on the roof. There were four guys on the roof

676
00:44:58,297 --> 00:45:04,017
between the time he supposedly shot him. And and when the cop who got on the roof,

677
00:45:04,017 --> 00:45:10,357
who looked at the crime scene supposedly for the first time, and he doesn't even mention the

678
00:45:10,357 --> 00:45:16,257
screwdriver. And the screwdriver, by the way, isn't even the right screwdriver to take apart

679
00:45:16,257 --> 00:45:20,077
one of these Mausers, and these Mausers are big, heavy mother guns.

680
00:45:23,857 --> 00:45:28,257
And he simply took it apart, put it back together, took it apart again,

681
00:45:28,397 --> 00:45:30,617
changed his clothes several times. And then just left it in the woods.

682
00:45:31,057 --> 00:45:36,457
And just left it in the woods with the screwdriver. And they said, we found the screwdriver with the gun for like three days.

683
00:45:36,717 --> 00:45:39,817
And then all of a sudden they said, holy shit, we got no evidence of him on the roof. So all of a sudden

684
00:45:39,817 --> 00:45:42,777
the screwdriver miraculously finds his way to the roof.

685
00:45:42,777 --> 00:45:50,177
this is all official record you can see people testifying this you guys it's just crazy it's

686
00:45:50,177 --> 00:45:55,097
just a complete look so it's going to be like um i had a chance to chat with derrick uh with

687
00:45:55,097 --> 00:46:04,177
jonathan turley this year which was i'm like it's total groupie and um and and i asked him i i asked

688
00:46:04,177 --> 00:46:10,037
him i said i i got one question i'm dying to ask because you paid very close attention to the george

689
00:46:10,037 --> 00:46:18,997
Floyd death. And and I said, did Derek Chauvin get an get a fair trial? And he he hemmed and

690
00:46:18,997 --> 00:46:22,037
hawed. You could see him going, holy fuck, I didn't see that question coming.

691
00:46:23,157 --> 00:46:28,537
And then he said, I have real problems with that trial. And I think we're going to do it again.

692
00:46:29,217 --> 00:46:34,997
Well, I don't follow. I can't follow everything. I have to choose my rabbit holes. But no,

693
00:46:35,097 --> 00:46:39,217
you can't. But one thing I did find him and I never followed Charlie Kirk. I really had

694
00:46:39,217 --> 00:46:40,917
very light familiar.

695
00:46:41,697 --> 00:46:44,137
And I did find it amusing

696
00:46:44,137 --> 00:46:45,617
that immediately after he was...

697
00:46:45,617 --> 00:46:46,657
Yeah, I thought he was just a grifter.

698
00:46:46,897 --> 00:47:05,880
I thought he was a grifter Charlie yeah I think I got that impression I saw a few tweets where he was defending Trump and when obviously I thought Trump did something in the press But I did find it interesting that Benjamin Netanyahu felt the need to go on and give a lengthy protest that we didn kill him

699
00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:06,840
We didn't kill him.

700
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,320
I mean, you and I didn't feel a need to get on TV and say, hey, we didn't kill him.

701
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,820
You know, it's like that was very, very, you know, he does protest too much.

702
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:17,200
So I found that amusing.

703
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:23,880
And they have some experience with exploding devices, I think, from reading the news.

704
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,480
I'm told.

705
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:25,1000
I'm told.

706
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:26,380
Yeah.

707
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:26,920
I'm told.

708
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,460
You know what Netanyahu's doing this week?

709
00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:30,360
You know what he's doing this week?

710
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:30,660
No, what's he doing?

711
00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:34,520
He is going to Lindsey Graham's show.

712
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,700
Where's a meteor when you need one?

713
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:40,580
I know.

714
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,320
I know.

715
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,040
I know.

716
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,540
Oh, well, good.

717
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,220
I mean, that was like.

718
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,700
Dave, I thought we talked about.

719
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:50,040
I think we might have talked about this, but the whole like golden beeper that he gave to Trump.

720
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:56,020
I thought that was a very weird. Yeah, very strange. Is that a veiled thread or like I don't know what the hell that was.

721
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,980
So I have a working hypothesis of Trump that's generous, but it's not super generous.

722
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:09,860
And that is. I think it's possible he did think he could change the system.

723
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:15,920
And I think it's possible that it was driven by his narcissism where he said, look, I, you know, I want to be the greatest.

724
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,980
right? Muhammad Ali on steroids, right? And that the way

725
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:24,100
to do that is to do great things, right? You don't get to Mount Rushmore

726
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,060
by being a douchebag. And

727
00:48:26,060 --> 00:48:30,820
that something caused him to say, fuck it.

728
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,800
Could be greed. He's made $2 billion last year.

729
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,660
Oh, he's $80. Can you imagine? He's done well after he said

730
00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:44,040
Yeah. Can you imagine being $80 and being anti-war

731
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,560
your whole life and then and then you have the power to actually change things and all you do

732
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,220
is enrich yourself and your friends and your family and start new wars that you promised for

733
00:48:55,220 --> 00:49:01,440
the decade not to start i mean he's 80 years old see the part of part that's part of my

734
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,140
theory that's part of my theory is that he said look i i there's nothing i can achieve here and

735
00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:11,860
and therefore i'm just going to do what i do best now there's grift well what about the war

736
00:49:11,860 --> 00:49:15,600
He clearly doesn't do war really as well as he does drift.

737
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:25,100
Well, I think since it totally destroyed his presidency and he had to know it, he had to know it.

738
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:30,120
He had to have advisors saying, you are going, this is going to be an epic disaster.

739
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:35,520
I think something, something made him do it.

740
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,380
I kind of take.

741
00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:39,320
Even Trump the grifter wouldn't have done it.

742
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,180
I kind of take the opposite tack.

743
00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:46,740
I think he was so high on Venezuela that I bet he I'm sure he had people telling him this is going to be a disaster.

744
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,180
But he also had people telling him it's a cakewalk.

745
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:56,360
I mean, the head of the Joint Chiefs staff, I got a comment on where he he says it would be would be difficult, wouldn't be difficult.

746
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,820
They thought that they literally just how ignorant.

747
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:01,240
Now, clearly, people arguing against it.

748
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,200
I mean, I have except that Kelsey was going nuts.

749
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,640
But he got, you know, Trump like people that stroke him.

750
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,360
I mean, he's got Lutnik, like his Siamese twin.

751
00:50:11,620 --> 00:50:12,960
He never goes anywhere without Lutnik.

752
00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:17,520
And, of course, his man should literally touch Epstein.

753
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,300
Well, Lutnik's been AWOL since the Epstein papers.

754
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:20,920
I don't know.

755
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,640
Lutnik's been AWOL since the Epstein papers.

756
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,740
I thought I saw him the other day standing next to Trump.

757
00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:25,180
I don't know.

758
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:26,500
Maybe it was a little clip, but.

759
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,440
Well, but it was a very awkward moment.

760
00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:34,1000
It was one of those things where he was talking, where he was trash talking Israel with Lutnik standing next to him.

761
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,260
I missed that.

762
00:50:36,260 --> 00:50:38,080
That was a strange, strange.

763
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,140
I'm sitting there. I'm almost feeling sympathetic to Lutnik at that point.

764
00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:45,600
I'm going, have to stand next to Trump boys hammering Israel.

765
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,100
That's got to be Lutnik's low point of his life.

766
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:50,920
Hammering Israel. Okay, I'll believe it.

767
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,780
Because they didn't want to join the war, right? They said they're not going to get it.

768
00:50:55,780 --> 00:50:59,080
You know what? It's all on Trump. He's a big boy.

769
00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:03,920
It's his responsibility. I'm sure Israel told him it's going to be a cakewalk.

770
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:10,340
And now, as I said, the chutzpah of these guys, the chutzpah, they say, oh, we don't want to be involved in the Sharan war.

771
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,820
We'll let the Americans fight it.

772
00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:15,120
We are so stupid.

773
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,540
I said today we were lying.

774
00:51:16,660 --> 00:51:19,020
We don't know, though.

775
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:27,760
We don't know if it was risk of death and dismemberment of family members.

776
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,080
We don't know that.

777
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:33,080
And if you think that's beyond Israel, you're paying attention.

778
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,020
Well, I would think Trump has access to people who can dismember Netanyahu's family.

779
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,920
I mean, seriously, I mean, nobody has more power in the world than Trump.

780
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:42,640
I mean, or whoever controls Trump.

781
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,140
I think the Israelis are the best.

782
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:48,040
I think, you know, look, they're good at people that don't fight back.

783
00:51:49,020 --> 00:51:52,520
You know, so they're good at, you know, blowing up hospitals.

784
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,540
And of course, we're doing the same thing.

785
00:51:54,580 --> 00:51:55,300
We're blowing up hospitals.

786
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:56,040
We're blowing up schools.

787
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,280
I mean, these used to be called war crimes.

788
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,100
Like I said.

789
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:12,322
Yeah we killed many more than they have We killed many more than they have on no cops on the beach anywhere But not to the point of the shit show Now it like Yemen is starting to bomb Saudi

790
00:52:12,322 --> 00:52:15,322
ships on the other side. Bomb those poor people in Yemen.

791
00:52:15,962 --> 00:52:18,862
And it's just like... And the Saudis are going for the bomb now.

792
00:52:18,962 --> 00:52:22,522
The Saudis are going for the bomb now. That's what I was saying earlier. That's like the weird

793
00:52:22,522 --> 00:52:26,502
contradiction. We're in this war with Iran to stop them from nuclear enrichment.

794
00:52:26,502 --> 00:52:29,642
and we're signing a deal with Saudi, like, yeah, go make a bomb.

795
00:52:29,862 --> 00:52:30,202
It's like, what?

796
00:52:31,242 --> 00:52:32,562
How do we get to this point?

797
00:52:33,862 --> 00:52:34,382
I don't know.

798
00:52:36,022 --> 00:52:40,262
It would be hard to make the case for better off than we were six months ago.

799
00:52:42,042 --> 00:52:44,062
And then, of course, here we are.

800
00:52:44,822 --> 00:52:48,142
Everyone's pissed off at everyone except for the three of us.

801
00:52:48,142 --> 00:52:49,522
We're not pissed off at each other.

802
00:52:49,522 --> 00:52:53,402
and we're

803
00:52:53,402 --> 00:52:57,042
what has to be something approximating a market top

804
00:52:57,042 --> 00:53:01,362
and an economic top, right? I don't even think it's an economic, I think we're already on the

805
00:53:01,362 --> 00:53:03,082
skids badly economically, but

806
00:53:03,082 --> 00:53:09,362
they're hiding it. What happens if we get a

807
00:53:09,362 --> 00:53:13,602
75% correction in the S&P? What the hell is society

808
00:53:13,602 --> 00:53:17,422
going to be doing then? They're not going to allow it. That'll never happen, I don't think.

809
00:53:17,422 --> 00:53:19,762
They don't have the control over it, Marty.

810
00:53:20,262 --> 00:53:20,902
You don't think so?

811
00:53:21,382 --> 00:53:22,842
No, no chance.

812
00:53:23,122 --> 00:53:27,422
There's never been an asset class in history that got overvalued that didn't find its way back to cheap.

813
00:53:28,082 --> 00:53:28,402
Never.

814
00:53:30,682 --> 00:53:31,822
Rudy, chime in here, buddy.

815
00:53:32,122 --> 00:53:35,262
Well, I was going to say Rudy, chime in because I know you liked my interview with Nick Namath.

816
00:53:35,422 --> 00:53:42,042
And we were talking about private credit insurance companies and the systemic risk that may exist there.

817
00:53:42,562 --> 00:53:44,262
What is going to be the catalyst?

818
00:53:44,262 --> 00:53:45,642
Because we've been talking about this for years.

819
00:53:45,642 --> 00:53:47,642
and like, what's...

820
00:53:48,962 --> 00:53:56,422
You sound like you're in a fishbowl, Rudy.

821
00:53:58,162 --> 00:53:59,283
Are you using your phone?

822
00:53:59,382 --> 00:53:59,783
What are you using?

823
00:54:03,802 --> 00:54:05,202
We're not getting you at all.

824
00:54:05,502 --> 00:54:06,182
Yeah, you're muffled.

825
00:54:07,242 --> 00:54:07,982
I don't know if you're mics.

826
00:54:07,982 --> 00:54:08,982
You sound like you're...

827
00:54:08,982 --> 00:54:11,362
Like you sat on your phone.

828
00:54:13,482 --> 00:54:14,462
You boomers.

829
00:54:15,642 --> 00:54:17,142
He's going and coming back.

830
00:54:18,022 --> 00:54:19,102
I'm Boomer Tech.

831
00:54:19,402 --> 00:54:21,482
I was on with Chris Martinson the other day,

832
00:54:21,582 --> 00:54:25,142
and he couldn't get his technology to work after a Microsoft upgrade.

833
00:54:26,822 --> 00:54:30,122
And then he went on Tucker, which was interesting.

834
00:54:31,042 --> 00:54:31,742
Went on Tucker.

835
00:54:32,342 --> 00:54:33,742
I had Chris on a couple months ago.

836
00:54:33,922 --> 00:54:35,402
It was the first time I've had him on.

837
00:54:35,442 --> 00:54:36,242
It was a good conversation.

838
00:54:36,542 --> 00:54:38,102
I think you may have brokered that intro.

839
00:54:40,122 --> 00:54:41,422
Or I used you as a reference.

840
00:54:42,422 --> 00:54:43,482
Dave thinks I'm going to.

841
00:54:43,482 --> 00:54:46,302
I use you as a reference to get Chris on the show.

842
00:54:46,422 --> 00:54:47,762
I said, I've had Dave Collum on.

843
00:54:48,042 --> 00:54:51,722
Oh, I saw the, you guys spent the first two minutes talking about me.

844
00:54:52,002 --> 00:54:52,382
Yeah.

845
00:54:52,662 --> 00:54:54,002
In your podcast, right?

846
00:54:54,082 --> 00:54:54,262
Yeah.

847
00:54:55,042 --> 00:54:57,262
I'll take any press, good press, bad press.

848
00:54:57,382 --> 00:54:58,982
And I've had my share of both.

849
00:55:00,762 --> 00:55:05,422
And, but I do wonder what is going to happen.

850
00:55:05,422 --> 00:55:07,082
We'll get Rudy to chime in here.

851
00:55:07,082 --> 00:55:14,522
But there's things that there's forces of nature out there that are more powerful than central banks.

852
00:55:14,602 --> 00:55:19,442
And one of them is that that real live economic downturns are not stoppable.

853
00:55:19,602 --> 00:55:24,342
Real live market corrections from profound overvaluation are not stoppable.

854
00:55:24,802 --> 00:55:28,082
They can be delayed. They can be stalled. They can be made more overvalued.

855
00:55:28,942 --> 00:55:31,082
But they're ultimately not stoppable.

856
00:55:32,102 --> 00:55:36,882
Yeah. It's like the death of currencies, right? They're not stoppable either.

857
00:55:37,082 --> 00:55:45,922
what uh what's the frothiest part of the market in your mind right now um you'd have to say ai i

858
00:55:45,922 --> 00:55:52,642
think but i think ai is actually the trigger i i put out a tweet about a month ago or so

859
00:55:52,642 --> 00:55:59,962
that i said i never call market tops and crashes but if i were to call a market top and a crash

860
00:55:59,962 --> 00:56:02,822
it would be the IPO of SpaceX.

861
00:56:04,522 --> 00:56:09,942
And because on the one hand, it is the peak absurdity.

862
00:56:12,102 --> 00:56:17,182
It's like SpaceX was a $1.5 trillion NFT, best I could tell.

863
00:56:18,562 --> 00:56:22,922
But more to the point, sentiment doesn't,

864
00:56:23,262 --> 00:56:25,702
I've actually thought that we would not get euphoric.

865
00:56:25,802 --> 00:56:27,742
We seem to have gotten euphoric for some reason.

866
00:56:27,742 --> 00:56:35,302
but um but i do believe that um i do believe that these really really super high priced

867
00:56:35,302 --> 00:56:38,382
ipos rudy you there just for laughs gotta ask

868
00:56:38,382 --> 00:56:43,222
you're still in it you're still in a fishbowl

869
00:56:43,222 --> 00:56:49,582
nothing's coming through we're getting we gotta i came back but it was really

870
00:56:49,582 --> 00:56:53,142
it's kind of like your head and phone were both up your butt yeah

871
00:56:53,142 --> 00:57:06,022
so what um spacex nft so spacex spacex and these other really pricey ipos that run into the

872
00:57:06,022 --> 00:57:09,283
multiple trillion dollars are going to suck the liquidity right out of the system

873
00:57:09,283 --> 00:57:21,185
i i think they going to be i think they going to be like throwing you know sponge in there just so if if you So if you want to put out debt you a bank

874
00:57:23,045 --> 00:57:29,585
You could put out $1,000, $10 million loans or one $10 billion loan.

875
00:57:29,665 --> 00:57:30,285
What are you going to do?

876
00:57:33,525 --> 00:57:34,385
The one loan.

877
00:57:34,385 --> 00:57:38,885
So it's going to – and they tried to come up.

878
00:57:38,885 --> 00:57:43,865
You could you you can see them scrambling to find ways to dump the shares.

879
00:57:43,865 --> 00:57:46,825
Right. So the kind of put it in the index right away.

880
00:57:46,825 --> 00:57:49,845
And and I think the triple Q picked up on it.

881
00:57:49,905 --> 00:57:57,985
I think the I think the maybe the Russell, but the S&P did not.

882
00:57:58,685 --> 00:58:02,145
The Nasdaq picked up on it and put them in the Nasdaq and things like that.

883
00:58:02,165 --> 00:58:08,325
But but the but the S&P has various rules, one of which is you have to have two quarters in a row of profitability.

884
00:58:08,885 --> 00:58:15,445
SpaceX is not going to have two quarters of profitability legitimately for many, many years.

885
00:58:17,105 --> 00:58:24,545
And so the S&P actually held the ground.

886
00:58:24,825 --> 00:58:33,005
Now, the other noticeable thing is they staged the lockout, which at first I said, oh, now they're really grifting.

887
00:58:33,945 --> 00:58:38,605
But I realized that it would be better to stage it the way they did,

888
00:58:38,685 --> 00:58:40,405
which it's over the next six months,

889
00:58:40,865 --> 00:58:44,385
the shares are going to lock out percentage-wise.

890
00:58:44,585 --> 00:58:45,765
I actually saw a ramp.

891
00:58:45,845 --> 00:58:47,445
I saw the precise lockout thing.

892
00:58:47,625 --> 00:58:48,985
Someone drew it out graphically.

893
00:58:49,985 --> 00:58:56,425
You wouldn't want to release over a trillion dollars worth of shares on one day.

894
00:58:57,125 --> 00:58:57,645
Right?

895
00:58:58,045 --> 00:58:59,125
That you wouldn't want to do.

896
00:58:59,125 --> 00:59:04,885
So I think that's why SpaceX is rotting very quickly in the market.

897
00:59:05,405 --> 00:59:09,985
I think people are trying to get out as fast as they can.

898
00:59:11,165 --> 00:59:14,005
And someone said, what price would you buy it at, 30?

899
00:59:15,105 --> 00:59:18,485
And I said, well, 30 would put it at 10 times sales.

900
00:59:19,985 --> 00:59:26,265
10 times sales is Scott McNeely, what were they thinking level of valuation.

901
00:59:27,185 --> 00:59:33,645
So one could argue that if you do it based on sales, one could argue that $3 a share would be the right price.

902
00:59:34,545 --> 00:59:37,085
Yeah, it's done 30% from its list.

903
00:59:38,445 --> 00:59:39,165
That's the question.

904
00:59:39,165 --> 00:59:46,345
You have Gavin Baker and others saying, look at the Anthropic compute leasing deal.

905
00:59:46,765 --> 00:59:51,685
That's going to pay back Colossus 1 within a year, and then it's pure profit from there.

906
00:59:51,685 --> 01:00:03,245
And they're making the case that they can build a gigawatt facility with Colossus 2 and lease out comparable economics than that.

907
01:00:03,365 --> 01:00:11,985
So the guy, you might be pretty good at this story because of your understanding of the relationship of energy and Bitcoin and things like that.

908
01:00:13,245 --> 01:00:16,505
But the guy who makes the most sense to me is Ed Zitron.

909
01:00:16,505 --> 01:00:18,185
on that. No, he's

910
01:00:18,185 --> 01:00:20,245
a, he's like

911
01:00:20,245 --> 01:00:22,465
the Peter Schiff of AI.

912
01:00:23,345 --> 01:00:23,925
Oh, is that

913
01:00:23,925 --> 01:00:25,805
correct? Yeah.

914
01:00:26,125 --> 01:00:27,985
He seems to, are his numbers wrong?

915
01:00:28,345 --> 01:00:29,345
I think so, yeah.

916
01:00:31,445 --> 01:00:31,765
The,

917
01:00:32,585 --> 01:00:33,845
I mean, he's just making false claims.

918
01:00:34,005 --> 01:00:36,185
It's like, they're, I mean, it's reported

919
01:00:36,185 --> 01:00:38,165
behind the scene, obviously, they're still a private company, but

920
01:00:38,165 --> 01:00:39,925
the rumors are, like, there's

921
01:00:39,925 --> 01:00:42,005
credible people

922
01:00:42,005 --> 01:00:44,085
on Anthropics cap table that are saying

923
01:00:44,085 --> 01:00:46,165
they've hit cash flow positive

924
01:00:46,165 --> 01:00:50,365
in many other business lines.

925
01:00:52,965 --> 01:00:56,105
The CEO, I believe, of Iron came out after...

926
01:00:56,105 --> 01:00:59,345
But I think they're recording fictional revenues and stuff.

927
01:01:00,205 --> 01:01:01,905
I don't know. I use this stuff every day.

928
01:01:01,905 --> 01:01:09,905
I think the circle jerk of vendor financing stuff looks profound.

929
01:01:09,905 --> 01:01:17,745
so i don't have like full clarity on like where the money's coming in where the circle jerk

930
01:01:17,745 --> 01:01:24,145
is corrupting things what i know is i'm using the tech and i also sit on the board of a company

931
01:01:24,145 --> 01:01:32,945
that's a bitcoin miner um and we are exploring um doing some some hosting for um for ai compute

932
01:01:32,945 --> 01:01:39,745
specifically and oh i don't doubt that ai is going to be really important yeah so that's like that's

933
01:01:39,745 --> 01:01:43,985
that's that's what i'm trying to get at here is like i did the guy i've got that a bit it's going

934
01:01:43,985 --> 01:01:48,305
to be really important so that's what i'm trying to discern it's like okay where like it's obvious

935
01:01:48,305 --> 01:01:56,305
that this technology is the best analogy i knew heard was jeff gunlock who said that at the turn

936
01:01:56,305 --> 01:02:05,425
of the century obviously electricity companies were rocking because electricity had been invented and

937
01:02:05,425 --> 01:02:08,425
and it was starting to be shipped around the world.

938
01:02:08,425 --> 01:02:11,425
And he said, of course they'd rock.

939
01:02:11,425 --> 01:02:13,465
It'd be like the railroads, right?

940
01:02:13,465 --> 01:02:15,845
He said they peaked in 1911.

941
01:02:18,545 --> 01:02:22,005
So the people who somehow think that the revenue's like,

942
01:02:22,005 --> 01:02:23,985
oh my, how can you not own electricity?

943
01:02:23,985 --> 01:02:27,645
It's like the guys who bought the Nikkei in 1989,

944
01:02:27,645 --> 01:02:29,965
14 of the 20 biggest companies

945
01:02:30,008 --> 01:02:31,708
In the world, we're in the Nikkei.

946
01:02:32,388 --> 01:02:33,908
How do you not own the Nikkei?

947
01:02:35,208 --> 01:02:37,768
You have to own the Nikkei under those conditions, right?

948
01:02:38,988 --> 01:02:43,408
Cisco in 1999 had a 30% growth in revenues.

949
01:02:44,948 --> 01:02:45,428
Yeah.

950
01:02:46,448 --> 01:02:50,148
So none of this stuff has anything to do with investing is the problem.

951
01:02:50,908 --> 01:02:51,108
Yeah.

952
01:02:51,828 --> 01:02:52,948
No, I think that's clear.

953
01:02:52,948 --> 01:03:00,728
I would not be shocked if Anthropic and OpenAI turn out to be companies that end up in the dustbin of history.

954
01:03:01,748 --> 01:03:06,888
Well, no, I think what they'll do is that whatever they've created will be bought up for pennies on the dollar.

955
01:03:06,988 --> 01:03:07,828
I mean pennies.

956
01:03:09,348 --> 01:03:11,348
And then the money will start.

957
01:03:11,348 --> 01:03:15,648
So the big winner of the Internet were not the front end of the Internet.

958
01:03:15,848 --> 01:03:18,088
It was not Yahoo or Netscape or whatever.

959
01:03:18,288 --> 01:03:19,068
It was Google.

960
01:03:19,388 --> 01:03:20,548
It was Amazon.

961
01:03:20,548 --> 01:03:23,288
It was the guys who came along and used it.

962
01:03:24,388 --> 01:03:26,308
And even Amazon, right?

963
01:03:26,428 --> 01:03:30,548
Amazon supposedly in the dot-com bus corrected 95%.

964
01:03:31,168 --> 01:03:35,568
Now, if you'd owned it and held on to it, you'd still be okay,

965
01:03:35,708 --> 01:03:38,688
but you would have gone through years of sleepless nights,

966
01:03:39,008 --> 01:03:40,128
years and years and years.

967
01:03:41,988 --> 01:03:44,448
And I wonder what's going on with Rudy.

968
01:03:46,908 --> 01:03:50,028
So there's things like a story I like to tell.

969
01:03:50,028 --> 01:03:58,368
Now, Buffett, after the dot-com bust, Buffett ever so briefly lamented owning Coca-Cola.

970
01:03:58,668 --> 01:04:01,988
Now, that's like the Pope lamenting reading the Bible, right?

971
01:04:02,348 --> 01:04:03,708
That's really extraordinary.

972
01:04:04,368 --> 01:04:08,748
And I only heard him say it once, but he lamented owning Coca-Cola.

973
01:04:08,948 --> 01:04:10,668
And so you say, well, why would he say that?

974
01:04:10,668 --> 01:04:18,108
And they go, well, it turns out that in 1998, I think it was, Coca-Cola was trading at 50 times earnings.

975
01:04:18,108 --> 01:04:22,088
Now, Coca-Cola was not a growth company.

976
01:04:22,588 --> 01:04:29,048
Coca-Cola, as someone said, I think Eddie Dowd said he was in Nepal and there were Coke machines in Nepal.

977
01:04:30,008 --> 01:04:33,868
You know, I mean, Coca-Cola controlled the entire global beverage industry.

978
01:04:34,548 --> 01:04:41,908
And they were trading at 50 times earnings when treasuries were returning six and a half, seven percent.

979
01:04:41,908 --> 01:04:48,308
there was not a that so you say well there's no way coco is going to double its earnings

980
01:04:48,308 --> 01:04:56,568
no way but let's say they did then they'd be trading at 25 times earnings

981
01:04:56,568 --> 01:05:04,468
right there was no way and so buffett noticed in retrospect he said i should have sold

982
01:05:04,468 --> 01:05:11,368
and that's where you get to you get to the point where even guys like buffett are not able to see

983
01:05:11,368 --> 01:05:16,788
with the clarity. Now, a guy who sees things like this with the clarity is Jeremy Grantham.

984
01:05:17,308 --> 01:05:25,148
If you look at his returns, they stink. If you look at his returns over the last 40 years or so,

985
01:05:25,468 --> 01:05:29,968
he called all the bubbles. He called them early. I give him credit for calling them early.

986
01:05:31,848 --> 01:05:40,468
But his returns suck. But I think, I sincerely believe that this is the biggest mother of them

987
01:05:40,468 --> 01:05:50,228
all because you've got the AI bubble perched on top of private equity and private credit and

988
01:05:50,228 --> 01:05:56,908
real estate and standard equities. I mean, these are bubbles. This is turtles all the way down.

989
01:05:58,548 --> 01:06:02,828
And so this bubble is humongous. Someone came up with an estimate. I don't know how you estimate

990
01:06:02,828 --> 01:06:08,408
this, so I'm inclined to believe it's just a story. So I will warn the listener. But they said,

991
01:06:08,408 --> 01:06:13,628
if you look at the malinvestment of the dot-com bubble, the malinvestment, what's the metric for

992
01:06:13,628 --> 01:06:18,468
malinvestment? I don't know. The claim is this is something George Noble, I think, brought up,

993
01:06:18,668 --> 01:06:25,248
who was Peter Lynch's right-hand man and has been very active lately. I did a Twitter spaces with

994
01:06:25,248 --> 01:06:32,548
him once. He runs Twitter spaces with an iron fist. And he said the malinvestment of the AI

995
01:06:32,548 --> 01:06:38,728
bubble is 17 times the malinvestment of the dot-com bubble.

996
01:06:41,048 --> 01:06:42,408
What's he pointing out specifically?

997
01:06:42,748 --> 01:06:43,508
Where's the money being?

998
01:06:43,588 --> 01:06:44,588
No, no, that's the problem.

999
01:06:44,768 --> 01:06:45,848
It's a vague statement.

1000
01:06:46,128 --> 01:06:47,028
It's a vague statement.

1001
01:06:47,288 --> 01:06:51,348
It's misallocated resources, but I don't know what metric they use.

1002
01:06:51,348 --> 01:06:53,508
So it's probably some guy in Wall Street.

1003
01:06:53,668 --> 01:06:54,728
So his lips are moving.

1004
01:06:54,828 --> 01:06:55,948
He's probably lying, right?

1005
01:06:56,548 --> 01:07:02,528
Well, that's what I worry about with those analysts like that who are putting

1006
01:07:02,528 --> 01:07:08,528
barricades out there it's like have you used this technology like outside of just asking chat gpt a

1007
01:07:08,528 --> 01:07:15,648
question in the chat app and yeah to me chat cheap these grok and chat gpt most of us are using it as

1008
01:07:15,648 --> 01:07:19,868
the next gen by the way did you see that google for the first time in its history has a negative

1009
01:07:19,868 --> 01:07:24,168
cash flow yeah but that makes sense they're investing so much in the infrastructure layer

1010
01:07:24,168 --> 01:07:30,328
right on the right they're putting it all on the line i know but they and how many how many of these

1011
01:07:30,328 --> 01:07:33,788
multi-trillion dollar companies are putting it all on the line.

1012
01:07:33,988 --> 01:07:35,748
Well, the revenue is up, what, 24%?

1013
01:07:35,888 --> 01:07:37,468
Same earnings report.

1014
01:07:37,488 --> 01:07:48,505
Just like Cisco you mean like in 99 Yeah maybe But that like where we have this weird I think we have to take a nuanced approach here

1015
01:07:48,645 --> 01:07:51,344
It's like Google, I had a conversation with Mel Madison last week,

1016
01:07:51,364 --> 01:07:52,304
and you made a really good point.

1017
01:07:53,024 --> 01:07:57,885
All these hyperscales, Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft,

1018
01:07:58,804 --> 01:07:59,945
they are taking risks right now.

1019
01:07:59,945 --> 01:08:03,165
Obviously, they've exacerbated their cash flow,

1020
01:08:03,244 --> 01:08:05,084
and now they're going into debt or issuing equity.

1021
01:08:05,084 --> 01:08:08,165
but on the debt side

1022
01:08:08,165 --> 01:08:10,404
Mel made the point

1023
01:08:10,404 --> 01:08:12,045
like AI could blow up tomorrow

1024
01:08:12,045 --> 01:08:13,304
go to zero

1025
01:08:13,304 --> 01:08:16,624
could have proven that

1026
01:08:16,624 --> 01:08:18,304
none of this works, it doesn't make sense

1027
01:08:18,304 --> 01:08:20,684
all their investments could go to zero

1028
01:08:20,684 --> 01:08:22,825
and the cash flow of their legacy business

1029
01:08:22,825 --> 01:08:24,464
could pay back the debt that they've accrued

1030
01:08:24,464 --> 01:08:25,624
up to this point within like

1031
01:08:25,624 --> 01:08:28,344
I think you said three or four quarters, within a year

1032
01:08:28,344 --> 01:08:30,785
but who's going to get hurt in that process?

1033
01:08:33,744 --> 01:08:34,225
yeah

1034
01:08:34,225 --> 01:08:37,225
I guess everybody attached to that build out

1035
01:08:37,225 --> 01:08:40,045
All the people who have them

1036
01:08:40,045 --> 01:08:41,844
shit in their 401ks

1037
01:08:41,844 --> 01:08:42,804
Yeah

1038
01:08:42,804 --> 01:08:47,825
I think for example

1039
01:08:47,825 --> 01:08:49,524
the insurance industry could

1040
01:08:49,524 --> 01:08:51,344
completely and utterly implode

1041
01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:53,524
I think it can implode for

1042
01:08:53,524 --> 01:08:54,565
separate reasons

1043
01:08:54,565 --> 01:08:55,385
Right

1044
01:08:55,385 --> 01:08:59,844
If that was the only bubble

1045
01:08:59,844 --> 01:09:02,945
it would be a big bubble

1046
01:09:02,945 --> 01:09:06,304
because here's what the insurance companies are.

1047
01:09:06,644 --> 01:09:08,624
Insurance companies are companies which you give them money

1048
01:09:08,624 --> 01:09:10,804
and you say, look, in some number of decades,

1049
01:09:10,804 --> 01:09:13,524
you're going to pay me a lot of money back.

1050
01:09:15,565 --> 01:09:16,005
Right?

1051
01:09:17,005 --> 01:09:17,445
Yeah.

1052
01:09:18,325 --> 01:09:21,005
How many companies are still around in many decades?

1053
01:09:24,285 --> 01:09:24,984
I don't know.

1054
01:09:25,084 --> 01:09:26,024
That's a real problem.

1055
01:09:26,285 --> 01:09:28,765
Have you been following Nick Namath's coverage of the life insurance

1056
01:09:28,765 --> 01:09:30,565
and the private equity?

1057
01:09:30,684 --> 01:09:30,964
A little bit.

1058
01:09:30,964 --> 01:09:33,424
But I sure as hell wouldn't buy an annuity from anyone.

1059
01:09:33,605 --> 01:09:34,265
I wouldn't, right?

1060
01:09:34,344 --> 01:09:39,885
There's just, I think Social Security is safer than these insurance annuities.

1061
01:09:41,964 --> 01:09:43,565
Because they can print money.

1062
01:09:45,385 --> 01:09:45,544
Yeah.

1063
01:09:46,945 --> 01:09:54,645
The insurance companies are probably, probably loaded to the gills with private credit and alternative investments.

1064
01:09:54,645 --> 01:09:59,145
Because the Federal Reserve, I wonder what happened to Rudy.

1065
01:09:59,145 --> 01:10:04,385
Federal Reserve made them reach, forced them to reach.

1066
01:10:05,364 --> 01:10:09,544
Well, not only that, but like Nick, I've had two conversations with Nick.

1067
01:10:09,684 --> 01:10:11,304
By the way, I find Mel complicated.

1068
01:10:12,044 --> 01:10:13,205
I'll just leave it at that.

1069
01:10:13,404 --> 01:10:14,044
I do as well.

1070
01:10:16,505 --> 01:10:25,385
But back on the insurance thing, what Nick has been pointing out is that a lot of the private equity funds saw what Buffett was doing with like Geico.

1071
01:10:25,385 --> 01:10:26,744
And they're like, we can do that.

1072
01:10:26,744 --> 01:10:30,505
and so they've been going and buying up insurance companies

1073
01:10:30,505 --> 01:10:34,364
and then replacing the asset manager of the balance sheet assets

1074
01:10:34,364 --> 01:10:39,765
with like an internal sort of agnostic sort of capital allocator

1075
01:10:39,765 --> 01:10:42,124
who will invest across the spectrum

1076
01:10:42,124 --> 01:10:47,924
and replacing it with themselves as the asset manager of the insurance balance sheet

1077
01:10:47,924 --> 01:10:49,844
and then pushing it into their own products,

1078
01:10:50,184 --> 01:10:55,724
which are then taking private equity risk and private credit risk

1079
01:10:55,725 --> 01:11:02,924
in software as a service companies and this AI build out to a certain extent

1080
01:11:02,924 --> 01:11:05,665
instead of buying treasuries.

1081
01:11:06,104 --> 01:11:08,744
I'm sure they have treasuries, but they're taking more risk

1082
01:11:08,744 --> 01:11:11,484
within their own portfolios and sort of double-dipping.

1083
01:11:12,825 --> 01:11:17,104
Have you read The Plunders by Gretchen Morgensen and Josh Rosner?

1084
01:11:17,505 --> 01:11:17,844
No.

1085
01:11:18,265 --> 01:11:19,744
That should be on your reading list

1086
01:11:19,744 --> 01:11:23,645
because it shows the medical industry

1087
01:11:23,645 --> 01:11:25,965
and how it's treated by private equity.

1088
01:11:26,684 --> 01:11:28,145
And if you simply read that and you say,

1089
01:11:28,244 --> 01:11:30,445
okay, let's assume that other things they touch,

1090
01:11:30,544 --> 01:11:31,645
they're doing the same thing.

1091
01:11:32,385 --> 01:11:35,445
They take totally viable companies, strip mine them,

1092
01:11:35,765 --> 01:11:38,104
load them with debt, gut the place,

1093
01:11:38,585 --> 01:11:39,924
sell them into the open market

1094
01:11:39,924 --> 01:11:41,645
because monetary policy is too loose.

1095
01:11:41,705 --> 01:11:45,705
So they're actually our consumers of stupid purchases.

1096
01:11:47,224 --> 01:11:51,244
And then those companies with a 47% rate

1097
01:11:51,244 --> 01:11:54,165
go bankrupt after being resold into the market.

1098
01:11:55,844 --> 01:11:59,565
47%. And so all of a sudden you have some hospital that they bought

1099
01:11:59,565 --> 01:12:03,285
in Indiana in some town, and now they don't have a hospital.

1100
01:12:04,905 --> 01:12:07,724
So I'm sitting there thinking, I got a relative who dies.

1101
01:12:08,145 --> 01:12:11,624
I find out the reason they died is because of some private equity.

1102
01:12:11,724 --> 01:12:15,704
I'm going to go find the CEO. I'm going to

1103
01:12:15,704 --> 01:12:16,964
let them know what I think of them.

1104
01:12:16,964 --> 01:12:18,364
yeah

1105
01:12:18,364 --> 01:12:20,624
was that obtuse enough?

1106
01:12:21,405 --> 01:12:21,885
What's up freaks?

1107
01:12:21,964 --> 01:12:22,945
When you take Bitcoin seriously

1108
01:12:22,945 --> 01:12:23,984
you start with custody

1109
01:12:23,984 --> 01:12:25,204
you want to control your keys

1110
01:12:25,204 --> 01:12:26,405
avoid single points of failure

1111
01:12:26,405 --> 01:12:27,565
and make sure your savings

1112
01:12:27,565 --> 01:12:28,184
cannot disappear

1113
01:12:28,184 --> 01:12:29,285
because you or someone else

1114
01:12:29,285 --> 01:12:29,744
screwed up

1115
01:12:29,744 --> 01:12:30,445
that is what Unchained

1116
01:12:30,445 --> 01:12:31,145
has been focused on

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slash bitcoin that's aven.com slash bitcoin check it out brudy might be out for the count on this

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one i don't know what happened oh fucking rudy rudy's one of the few people who so some number

1155
01:14:46,101 --> 01:14:52,501
of years ago that's in excess of a dozen i showed up on twitter after being on other chat boards

1156
01:14:52,501 --> 01:14:59,841
since the late 90s and he's one of the few people you know they say you can only keep track of like

1157
01:14:59,841 --> 01:15:07,681
100 people in your lives and and uh and and you just you can't your sphere of your sphere of

1158
01:15:07,681 --> 01:15:15,981
friends number it's 180 yeah something like that right um and and i have connections with guys like

1159
01:15:15,981 --> 01:15:20,581
you and stuff because we occasionally podcast and you know and so that keeps us connected

1160
01:15:20,581 --> 01:15:26,381
but rudy and i rudy is one of the one of the very few people in those early days

1161
01:15:26,381 --> 01:15:37,061
that is still very much sort of in my is a sort of inner circle um of influence and i think

1162
01:15:37,061 --> 01:15:43,061
part of it because he does a good job of keeping relationship going well but but rudy and i exchange

1163
01:15:43,061 --> 01:15:51,901
dms we've been doing it for 15 years now or something and uh and uh and uh in some sense

1164
01:15:51,901 --> 01:15:59,421
i find it frustrating so i enjoyed twitter when i had 350 followers and i would chat with them

1165
01:15:59,421 --> 01:16:06,941
and i know them you know and you know that was guys like eddie dowd and and and i still

1166
01:16:06,941 --> 01:16:14,541
occasionally i did a podcast with eddie the other day and and and but but you you you can only go

1167
01:16:14,541 --> 01:16:18,981
down so many rabbit holes pay attention to so many things and i think i spread myself too thin

1168
01:16:18,981 --> 01:16:32,081
And so I'm aware of the evils of the world in too many categories and and probably therefore have just a skim coat understanding of them.

1169
01:16:33,021 --> 01:16:39,701
But. But I think I think we got some real problems, I think, the lack of accountability.

1170
01:16:39,701 --> 01:16:45,581
And so, you know, why would you ever worry about breaking the law if you know you're never going to go to jail?

1171
01:16:45,581 --> 01:16:51,781
right and that's what i'm going back going back to that newsletter i wrote earlier this week in

1172
01:16:51,781 --> 01:17:00,161
the context of gen z and like you like i had hope for trump and um i won't i won't lie like i still

1173
01:17:00,161 --> 01:17:08,001
like there's that part of some remote hope it's like turn it around um i think he's lost me

1174
01:17:08,001 --> 01:17:16,421
he's lost me but the iran war lost me the iran war lost me now that's like now that it's expanding

1175
01:17:16,421 --> 01:17:20,701
and like saudi's getting bombed by yam and it's like okay we're just doing exactly what we did

1176
01:17:20,701 --> 01:17:29,201
post 9-11 here's another 20-year but this one's riskier yeah this one's way riskier post 9-11

1177
01:17:29,201 --> 01:17:36,901
we stomped around like the meanest bastard on the planet and and and at no point were we as a country

1178
01:17:36,901 --> 01:17:40,541
at risk. And then

1179
01:17:40,541 --> 01:17:44,861
next up comes the Ukraine war. And all of a sudden

1180
01:17:44,861 --> 01:17:48,361
we got politicians talking about nuking Russian stuff. And now we're

1181
01:17:48,361 --> 01:17:52,381
they talk about how Ukraine is doing serious damage to

1182
01:17:52,381 --> 01:17:56,941
Russia. I go, you really think that's Ukraine doing that?

1183
01:17:57,721 --> 01:18:00,661
You really think that's Ukraine doing that? Ukraine

1184
01:18:00,661 --> 01:18:13,537
can even field a goddamn army because everyone either dead or left right Ukraine a ghost town So the pain being inflicted on Russia is NATO

1185
01:18:14,677 --> 01:18:19,997
And if you had told me 10 years ago that we would be bombing sites in Russia,

1186
01:18:20,217 --> 01:18:23,037
I would have thought you were insane.

1187
01:18:23,517 --> 01:18:25,357
Now I realize they are insane.

1188
01:18:26,557 --> 01:18:28,937
And at some point, so I did a poll on Twitter.

1189
01:18:28,937 --> 01:18:35,877
I love polls because sometimes I use them to get other people to say what I don't want to say.

1190
01:18:37,097 --> 01:18:41,457
And sometimes I actually use it to find out what people are actually thinking or what they know.

1191
01:18:42,537 --> 01:18:54,057
And I said, let's say, I said, hypothetically, Putin loses his shit and starts dropping some serious weaponry on Main Street Europe.

1192
01:18:55,357 --> 01:18:56,637
Who do you blame?

1193
01:18:56,637 --> 01:19:06,297
and I gave us the choice. Putin, I think it was Trump, USA, NATO, and I think I had a fourth one.

1194
01:19:06,337 --> 01:19:11,457
I can't remember. But the only thing I cared about is what percentage of the people blame Putin.

1195
01:19:12,457 --> 01:19:17,297
The rest were just the other potential candidates to blame. You can sum them all up and say they're

1196
01:19:17,297 --> 01:19:23,617
not Putin, right? And it turns out Putin got something like 4% of the vote.

1197
01:19:23,617 --> 01:19:28,357
everyone understands that we've been pushing putin's bodies

1198
01:19:28,357 --> 01:19:37,257
really i can't even i got my i only have one next to me um

1199
01:19:37,257 --> 01:19:47,277
i can hear you yeah logan's interjecting about the snoring but yeah no putin only got four percent

1200
01:19:47,277 --> 01:19:52,117
something like that was single digit guaranteed single digit it might have been eight might have

1201
01:19:52,117 --> 01:19:54,937
I'm guessing I could go look it up.

1202
01:19:56,077 --> 01:19:58,337
And we understand.

1203
01:19:59,177 --> 01:20:01,997
To me, Putin's one of the most grounded leaders in the world.

1204
01:20:03,437 --> 01:20:04,677
He's not a good guy.

1205
01:20:04,777 --> 01:20:06,077
I mean, he's a tough guy.

1206
01:20:06,837 --> 01:20:09,637
But Justin Trudeau wasn't going to run Russia either.

1207
01:20:13,237 --> 01:20:13,717
Yeah.

1208
01:20:14,057 --> 01:20:15,057
Come on, you punk.

1209
01:20:15,277 --> 01:20:15,777
Wake up.

1210
01:20:16,157 --> 01:20:16,577
Wake up.

1211
01:20:19,277 --> 01:20:20,977
I was like, how do you solve it?

1212
01:20:20,977 --> 01:20:22,617
Again, going back to it, what is the hope?

1213
01:20:22,877 --> 01:20:25,697
Do we have to do something external and put pressure on the system?

1214
01:20:25,697 --> 01:20:27,297
I think it's forth-turning shit.

1215
01:20:27,477 --> 01:20:29,097
I think we've got to go through the valley of death.

1216
01:20:30,037 --> 01:20:31,037
That's my metaphor.

1217
01:20:31,037 --> 01:20:34,977
You don't go into the valley of death and come back out.

1218
01:20:35,097 --> 01:20:35,877
You go through it.

1219
01:20:36,477 --> 01:20:40,357
You've just got to, you know, Billy Goats, gruff, whatever.

1220
01:20:40,877 --> 01:20:43,517
Would you say are we in the beginning stages of that?

1221
01:20:44,677 --> 01:20:48,857
Well, chronologically speaking, we should be pretty far along,

1222
01:20:48,857 --> 01:20:56,477
But it's like a fireworks display where if you're half done, what percentage of the fireworks have been blown off?

1223
01:20:57,317 --> 01:20:59,477
And the answer is probably 15 percent.

1224
01:21:00,517 --> 01:21:03,337
Right. Because they all blow them off at the end.

1225
01:21:04,917 --> 01:21:08,017
And so I think the quit snoring.

1226
01:21:08,177 --> 01:21:11,977
Come on, stop snoring. How can you snore while I'm rubbing you like this?

1227
01:21:13,977 --> 01:21:16,617
And so I think the grand finale.

1228
01:21:16,617 --> 01:21:18,697
get off here

1229
01:21:18,697 --> 01:21:20,537
go somewhere else

1230
01:21:20,537 --> 01:21:23,817
I just can't let him go

1231
01:21:23,817 --> 01:21:25,277
I can't

1232
01:21:25,277 --> 01:21:27,737
no choice

1233
01:21:27,737 --> 01:21:29,197
so what do you think

1234
01:21:29,197 --> 01:21:30,897
I don't know

1235
01:21:30,897 --> 01:21:34,677
I think

1236
01:21:34,677 --> 01:21:37,057
I truly believe

1237
01:21:37,057 --> 01:21:38,877
the money is the core of the problem

1238
01:21:38,877 --> 01:21:39,837
and we need to fix it

1239
01:21:39,837 --> 01:21:41,317
I agree

1240
01:21:41,317 --> 01:21:44,817
and that is again going back to

1241
01:21:44,817 --> 01:21:45,937
becoming dejected

1242
01:21:45,937 --> 01:21:50,357
It's like for me, like refocusing on Bitcoin, using the tools to get it out there.

1243
01:21:50,457 --> 01:21:52,837
Like, I think I don't think it's looking good.

1244
01:21:52,917 --> 01:21:59,037
I think Gen Z particularly is more polarized than any generation of our lifetime before it.

1245
01:21:59,557 --> 01:22:04,677
And you either have the Mondami socialist or like the tradcast, like send them all back.

1246
01:22:04,777 --> 01:22:07,537
We are like literally inspired.

1247
01:22:07,837 --> 01:22:08,317
They're extreme.

1248
01:22:08,757 --> 01:22:10,517
By what Hitler did to the third Reich.

1249
01:22:10,617 --> 01:22:12,297
Like we want a leader like that.

1250
01:22:12,397 --> 01:22:13,817
Like we want to like that.

1251
01:22:13,817 --> 01:22:16,597
Well, for example, there's a great example of Trump boning it.

1252
01:22:17,877 --> 01:22:21,557
You're not going to send 20 million people back home one at a time.

1253
01:22:22,597 --> 01:22:26,197
And so he has this highly visible ice thing going on.

1254
01:22:26,257 --> 01:22:27,837
And I go, I can't imagine.

1255
01:22:29,697 --> 01:22:31,297
There had to have been a better way.

1256
01:22:33,297 --> 01:22:33,737
Yeah.

1257
01:22:34,117 --> 01:22:38,777
And the better way, by the way, would be to punish the fuck out of the guys employing them.

1258
01:22:39,297 --> 01:22:39,537
Yeah.

1259
01:22:40,177 --> 01:22:40,477
Right.

1260
01:22:40,477 --> 01:22:42,857
Make make it not possible to stay.

1261
01:22:43,817 --> 01:22:46,857
And I think they did get a lot of self-deportations.

1262
01:22:47,077 --> 01:22:48,997
So I think there was some logic to it.

1263
01:22:49,897 --> 01:22:55,797
But I think you just, you know, and the Mexicans have never been a problem.

1264
01:22:56,137 --> 01:22:58,077
They're part of our economy, right?

1265
01:22:58,597 --> 01:23:01,537
I'm not asking to send Mexicans back to Mexico.

1266
01:23:02,737 --> 01:23:12,557
But I think you somehow have to say to the company, you know, Arthur Daniels, Midland, whatever, say, if you're using illegals, you better tell us who they are.

1267
01:23:12,557 --> 01:23:14,697
or we're going to shut you down.

1268
01:23:15,457 --> 01:23:16,497
Yeah, or fine you.

1269
01:23:19,437 --> 01:23:19,957
And...

1270
01:23:19,993 --> 01:23:24,353
I mean, bringing it back to the fourth turning, where are we?

1271
01:23:24,493 --> 01:23:26,753
I mean, we're beginning to see the political violence come back.

1272
01:23:26,853 --> 01:23:31,153
I mean, it's a small example, but like earlier this week in New York,

1273
01:23:31,193 --> 01:23:34,293
when I got to the gasoline and lit it up and fired.

1274
01:23:34,493 --> 01:23:36,353
Did you see my tweet on that?

1275
01:23:36,493 --> 01:23:39,373
You probably didn't because the world's too big now.

1276
01:23:40,333 --> 01:23:41,813
I showed a picture of it.

1277
01:23:41,853 --> 01:23:43,093
It's like a dumpster, right?

1278
01:23:43,233 --> 01:23:46,913
It's like essentially a dumpster lit on fire or something in front of the building.

1279
01:23:46,913 --> 01:23:50,653
and I said, why aren't they evacuating the building?

1280
01:23:50,793 --> 01:23:52,613
Did we learn nothing from Building 7?

1281
01:23:57,293 --> 01:23:58,233
That's a good one.

1282
01:23:58,813 --> 01:23:59,173
I know.

1283
01:23:59,393 --> 01:24:03,273
You get small, you can see that bubbling up.

1284
01:24:03,513 --> 01:24:06,993
You had the people shooting at ICE officers in Dallas.

1285
01:24:06,993 --> 01:24:08,733
But it was way worse with George Floyd.

1286
01:24:09,453 --> 01:24:13,153
Yeah, I mean, talking about chronologically, where are we?

1287
01:24:13,413 --> 01:24:15,613
Like bubbling up, you can go back to 2020.

1288
01:24:15,613 --> 01:24:22,673
like it started then um but but the finale the the real end of the fourth turning as again and

1289
01:24:22,673 --> 01:24:28,933
it's you know so it's really sociology and trying to put a real tight bow on it and that doesn't

1290
01:24:28,933 --> 01:24:34,433
work very well but but they've been it's been a pretty good model it has been a pretty good bottle

1291
01:24:34,433 --> 01:24:41,293
and and the grand finale and you know ray dalio who i think is way overrated um

1292
01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:49,793
created a six cycle thing just to make sure it was different than than the fourth turning but um

1293
01:24:49,793 --> 01:24:56,113
but but but the final the final stage is usually a really horrific war

1294
01:24:56,113 --> 01:25:03,593
yeah real turbulence people been talking about world war three you get 2022 you get ukraine

1295
01:25:03,593 --> 01:25:11,033
russia this year you get iran u.s well if putin starts hurling serious weapons into paris or

1296
01:25:11,033 --> 01:25:13,693
something into Berlin.

1297
01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:17,593
Do you think he's getting to the point where he may do that?

1298
01:25:18,733 --> 01:25:20,793
I think he's getting pressure.

1299
01:25:22,333 --> 01:25:28,533
I listen to guys like Mearsheimer, who it's not to say he doesn't have it wrong, but I

1300
01:25:28,533 --> 01:25:29,813
think he's trying to get it right.

1301
01:25:31,453 --> 01:25:38,173
And I find it so frustrating that people, you know, I was on a podcast.

1302
01:25:38,173 --> 01:25:41,073
I was with friends several times.

1303
01:25:41,133 --> 01:25:45,113
This has happened to me where people talk about the evil Iranians.

1304
01:25:46,693 --> 01:25:50,273
And I go, you are aware that we bombed them, right?

1305
01:25:51,633 --> 01:25:54,033
And then they say, well, you know, but they're going to get a nuke.

1306
01:25:54,073 --> 01:25:58,313
And I go, you are aware that Daniao has been saying that for 30 fucking years, right?

1307
01:25:59,913 --> 01:26:04,173
And I go, you know, Iran could destroy Israel this week.

1308
01:26:04,593 --> 01:26:05,233
I'm positive.

1309
01:26:05,233 --> 01:26:08,193
Iran could destroy Israel this week.

1310
01:26:08,793 --> 01:26:16,813
All they have to do is send the drone swarm and hit the Israel seven desalination plants and Israel will die of thirst.

1311
01:26:17,873 --> 01:26:18,773
In a week.

1312
01:26:20,393 --> 01:26:26,933
Because they, unlike Iran, Israel depends on like 90 percent of their fresh water comes from desalination plants.

1313
01:26:28,573 --> 01:26:33,053
And so then the question is and people say, well, the reason they don't is why haven't they done?

1314
01:26:33,053 --> 01:26:39,053
And I said, well, you know, most people give the argument because mutually assured destruction, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1315
01:26:39,093 --> 01:26:44,593
I go, how about the possibility that maybe Israel's not as a medieval society as much as you think,

1316
01:26:44,633 --> 01:26:47,153
and that they know that that's not the right thing to do?

1317
01:26:48,233 --> 01:26:49,133
How about that?

1318
01:26:49,193 --> 01:26:50,973
Are you willing to entertain that possibility?

1319
01:26:52,853 --> 01:26:55,153
Because here's what I like to encourage people to do.

1320
01:26:55,213 --> 01:26:59,533
And I don't know if this does any good, but I tell everyone on every podcast when this topic comes up,

1321
01:26:59,533 --> 01:27:02,793
I go, go to YouTube and search streets of Tehran.

1322
01:27:03,053 --> 01:27:07,593
look for videos about this that show the streets of Tehran

1323
01:27:07,593 --> 01:27:11,313
and tell me it doesn't look like New York City,

1324
01:27:11,353 --> 01:27:13,733
except they're not burning shit down and it's clean.

1325
01:27:15,473 --> 01:27:17,013
They're extraordinary. You could do it right now.

1326
01:27:17,053 --> 01:27:20,613
You can boot it up and share it and boom, you know, streets of Tehran.

1327
01:27:21,033 --> 01:27:21,953
They're beautiful.

1328
01:27:22,933 --> 01:27:25,973
It's like when they show the Moscow subway system, you go,

1329
01:27:25,973 --> 01:27:28,453
that's a lot cleaner than New York's. That's for damn sure.

1330
01:27:29,453 --> 01:27:32,313
And so I think it's quite possible that the Iranians

1331
01:27:32,313 --> 01:27:35,433
actually do have a moral compass.

1332
01:27:38,293 --> 01:27:42,033
I think it's not only incredibly naive,

1333
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:46,793
but like there's a whole Western propaganda arm.

1334
01:27:46,793 --> 01:27:48,393
It's just like we're seeing this,

1335
01:27:48,493 --> 01:27:51,153
which is way worse than everyone else's.

1336
01:27:51,653 --> 01:27:52,873
And that's,

1337
01:27:52,973 --> 01:27:55,153
that's where it gets very frustrating because it's,

1338
01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:59,153
it creates a frame where it's impossible to even make,

1339
01:27:59,293 --> 01:28:01,013
make the assumption that you just put forward.

1340
01:28:01,013 --> 01:28:05,053
maybe they're maybe they have a good moral compass and like we're seeing this in ai too or it's this

1341
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:12,433
existential race for dominance in ai between the united states and china and you just look at the

1342
01:28:12,433 --> 01:28:16,853
contradiction of like the the values that have been espoused that we're supposed to believe that

1343
01:28:16,853 --> 01:28:24,533
each country holds and you have two major companies here in anthropic and open ai they have a closed

1344
01:28:24,533 --> 01:28:41,976
source model closed weight model they not sharing it with the world and they obviously if you paying attention attention they want a regulatory mode they want to be the the the god kings of the ai future whereas in china that where like they

1345
01:28:41,976 --> 01:28:46,776
have the open weight models that are keeping pace and actually just wrote about it in the newsletter

1346
01:28:46,776 --> 01:28:53,176
this morning like deep seek their ceo was gave like a four-hour interview and he explained their

1347
01:28:53,176 --> 01:28:57,736
their perspective on how they're building their AI model.

1348
01:28:57,876 --> 01:29:00,236
And it's just like, hey, we think this is good for humanity.

1349
01:29:00,236 --> 01:29:03,216
We're going to price things appropriately so people can get access to it.

1350
01:29:03,276 --> 01:29:04,036
We're going to be as efficient.

1351
01:29:04,156 --> 01:29:04,976
We're going to be hyper-focused.

1352
01:29:05,216 --> 01:29:06,816
We're going to be long-term thinking.

1353
01:29:06,896 --> 01:29:08,556
And we think humanity should have access to this.

1354
01:29:08,636 --> 01:29:12,996
We've been taught, like, China is this communist country, which it is to an extent.

1355
01:29:13,156 --> 01:29:17,136
But having worked with Chinese and the Bitcoin mining industry, these people are hyper-capitalistic.

1356
01:29:17,136 --> 01:29:20,736
Like, the Chinese citizens, all they care about is making money at the end of the day.

1357
01:29:21,136 --> 01:29:22,336
It's actually pretty impressive.

1358
01:29:22,336 --> 01:29:30,056
and they can get shit done and then like the u.s it's it's really like the the intent of the

1359
01:29:30,056 --> 01:29:35,016
the frontier model providers and anthropic and open ai like it's not explicit but i think

1360
01:29:35,016 --> 01:29:40,176
implicitly it's get the regulatory mode become the ai god kings bring the surveillance state where

1361
01:29:40,176 --> 01:29:46,616
the communist country is creating like the the liberty-binded like open system and it's just

1362
01:29:46,616 --> 01:29:50,416
like this weird contradiction that exists. I know it seems backwards, doesn't it?

1363
01:29:50,756 --> 01:29:53,976
Yeah. Have you ever, have ever dug into Sam Altman's background?

1364
01:29:54,876 --> 01:29:59,116
Oh yeah. He's, he's weird. He's a, he's a, he's just a

1365
01:29:59,116 --> 01:30:03,196
hypester. He's, you know, Ronco salesman. He's not

1366
01:30:03,196 --> 01:30:07,036
a techie. He's not, he's not gifted. He's not at some

1367
01:30:07,036 --> 01:30:11,096
boy genius. He's just a hose bag. And, and, and

1368
01:30:11,096 --> 01:30:15,316
I think it was Peter Thiel who sort of pulled him up and said, I can, I know how to use

1369
01:30:15,316 --> 01:30:22,476
this guy and and so so he he's not some genius farsighted guy he is just the pitch man he is

1370
01:30:22,476 --> 01:30:31,056
fucking selling goddamn you know pillows and he's a sociopath and he's undoubtedly a sociopath

1371
01:30:31,056 --> 01:30:36,516
and and you know did you see the interview where uh where tucker interviewed him and accused him

1372
01:30:36,516 --> 01:30:42,036
in the usual tuckierian way where he didn't actually accuse him of killing his co-worker

1373
01:30:42,036 --> 01:30:48,096
and so tucker asked him a question well it's kind of suspicious where your co-worker died and sam

1374
01:30:48,096 --> 01:30:52,636
says sounds like you're accusing me and tucker goes oh no no i'm not accusing you it's just

1375
01:30:52,636 --> 01:30:58,516
fine it very odd that went back and forth about three fucking times and i'm going tucker is

1376
01:30:58,516 --> 01:31:07,776
accusing you of killing your co-worker yeah i don't know i mean so the problem we have there

1377
01:31:07,776 --> 01:31:24,196
I know, I know. One of the merits of the Chinese system, which I don't think, you know, I'm loathe to defend, but it doesn't have the Sam Altman's running around doing this shit.

1378
01:31:24,196 --> 01:31:32,456
we we to the extent that we used to have way checks and balances our system work better

1379
01:31:32,456 --> 01:31:39,176
you take away the checks and balances and accountability and and now you have this

1380
01:31:39,176 --> 01:31:44,436
situation this crazy situation where we're running around threatening everyone tariffing everyone

1381
01:31:44,436 --> 01:31:50,756
bombing everyone and china's going around hey can we build your port you know can we build your

1382
01:31:50,756 --> 01:31:56,536
factories let us help out here right holy shit who's who's winning this game right i think by

1383
01:31:56,536 --> 01:32:00,356
the way what do you what's your take on the air let's let's go to the iran war for for who's

1384
01:32:00,356 --> 01:32:08,336
winning who's winning the iran war looking at oil prices not not the american citizen i would say

1385
01:32:08,336 --> 01:32:13,876
i mean well but but but to me the game theory is is that iran just has to outlast us

1386
01:32:13,876 --> 01:32:18,376
because I think their goal has to be,

1387
01:32:18,676 --> 01:32:22,176
their number one goal has to be when this is over,

1388
01:32:22,176 --> 01:32:27,176
we need the Western world to swear off ever attacking us again.

1389
01:32:28,996 --> 01:32:34,676
And by the way, they're doing total point for point escalation.

1390
01:32:34,836 --> 01:32:40,276
And the scariest one, there was a post yesterday from the Hormuz,

1391
01:32:40,416 --> 01:32:41,496
the Strait of Hormuz or something.

1392
01:32:41,496 --> 01:32:44,936
It looks like it's an outlet for the Iranians to me.

1393
01:32:45,776 --> 01:32:48,036
And it says we're going to do tit for tat.

1394
01:32:48,456 --> 01:32:52,116
And you guys have tried to bomb our leaders and their families.

1395
01:32:52,836 --> 01:32:55,776
And we know where you live and we're going to do that too now.

1396
01:32:57,056 --> 01:33:00,396
And we know civilian infrastructure.

1397
01:33:00,776 --> 01:33:02,996
We have not attacked that, but you're attacking that.

1398
01:33:03,036 --> 01:33:07,596
So we're going to do that too now, which all of a sudden, next thing you know, boom, they start attacking infrastructure.

1399
01:33:08,356 --> 01:33:13,596
The Iranians are matching blow for blow the whole way.

1400
01:33:15,396 --> 01:33:19,396
Yeah. And it's with a degree of restraint, too.

1401
01:33:19,496 --> 01:33:21,756
It's like, hey, with a degree of restraint.

1402
01:33:22,716 --> 01:33:29,336
And. It's it does seem like a war of attrition because you have percent coming out.

1403
01:33:29,456 --> 01:33:36,596
And others saying that what, 180 percent inflation, I guess the Western perspective is bit them hard enough and long enough that their economy.

1404
01:33:37,596 --> 01:33:52,439
frumbles and they have yeah yeah take out persia which is survives 3 000 years right 3 000 years By the way you never win You don win wars when they have home field advantage

1405
01:33:54,079 --> 01:33:55,839
Home field advantage is everything.

1406
01:33:55,979 --> 01:33:58,459
Guys in Vietnam, we couldn't beat them.

1407
01:33:58,959 --> 01:34:00,959
They were in pajamas and sandals.

1408
01:34:02,659 --> 01:34:05,599
Home field advantage is everything because they got nowhere to go.

1409
01:34:05,599 --> 01:34:13,699
You know, during World War II, the Germans, the Germans did end up losing, I think.

1410
01:34:15,179 --> 01:34:19,359
One thing for sure is the Soviets won, not us, not Europe.

1411
01:34:19,499 --> 01:34:25,179
The Soviets won because they ended up with half of Europe on our dime.

1412
01:34:25,979 --> 01:34:30,619
And and. But I lost my train of thought.

1413
01:34:30,619 --> 01:34:37,139
but the reason the Germans

1414
01:34:37,139 --> 01:34:38,979
fought so hard at the end is

1415
01:34:38,979 --> 01:34:40,799
they didn't want

1416
01:34:40,799 --> 01:34:42,959
they were afraid of the Soviets

1417
01:34:42,959 --> 01:34:45,479
that's why the war started

1418
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:46,499
actually in my opinion

1419
01:34:46,499 --> 01:34:49,519
Germany was afraid of the Soviet Union

1420
01:34:49,519 --> 01:34:51,439
yeah

1421
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:52,979
and

1422
01:34:52,979 --> 01:34:55,119
the other thing

1423
01:34:55,119 --> 01:34:56,059
bringing this back to Iran

1424
01:34:56,059 --> 01:34:59,059
I thought like a month ago

1425
01:34:59,059 --> 01:35:01,619
I was like, okay, we got the Memorandum of Understanding.

1426
01:35:01,739 --> 01:35:02,439
We got the ceasefire.

1427
01:35:02,579 --> 01:35:02,899
It's like, okay.

1428
01:35:03,099 --> 01:35:04,619
Oh, I didn't think that would hold at all.

1429
01:35:04,999 --> 01:35:05,499
You didn't.

1430
01:35:05,699 --> 01:35:06,839
I was holding out hope.

1431
01:35:06,979 --> 01:35:08,219
Like, hey, maybe just eat our lungs.

1432
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:09,799
No, Israel doesn't want it to hold.

1433
01:35:10,939 --> 01:35:13,199
Well, like, that's the confusing thing.

1434
01:35:13,279 --> 01:35:14,979
It's like now they're saying they don't want to enter the war.

1435
01:35:15,939 --> 01:35:17,059
So they're just...

1436
01:35:18,339 --> 01:35:20,139
They don't want to enter the war.

1437
01:35:20,199 --> 01:35:21,339
Of course they don't.

1438
01:35:21,999 --> 01:35:23,199
But how long can this persist?

1439
01:35:23,279 --> 01:35:24,559
Or how long will this persist now?

1440
01:35:24,759 --> 01:35:28,219
As long as AIPAC dumps money into the pockets of our politicians.

1441
01:35:28,539 --> 01:35:28,979
Yeah.

1442
01:35:29,059 --> 01:35:34,799
this is the problem we just didn't we just wasn't two days ago we merged the militaries

1443
01:35:34,799 --> 01:35:38,419
whatever that means i guess in the house i think the senate vote still

1444
01:35:38,419 --> 01:35:44,139
oh okay well um if that goes through you can kiss your ass goodbye in my opinion

1445
01:35:44,139 --> 01:35:54,779
yeah are we a sovereign nation yeah the state of israel yeah it's uh

1446
01:35:54,779 --> 01:35:58,999
Yeah, it's weird times.

1447
01:35:59,719 --> 01:36:01,319
It is very weird times.

1448
01:36:01,759 --> 01:36:06,579
Israel wants us to shed our blood to take out their enemies.

1449
01:36:06,959 --> 01:36:07,819
It's that simple.

1450
01:36:09,339 --> 01:36:13,019
And they don't want this war to end.

1451
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:17,079
They want Iran to get flattened.

1452
01:36:18,979 --> 01:36:19,859
I find that hard.

1453
01:36:20,039 --> 01:36:22,739
I mean, to your point, Persia has been around for 3,000 years.

1454
01:36:22,739 --> 01:36:29,699
And if you think of the topology of the country to how mountainous it is, it seems we also learned why no one has ever conquered Afghanistan.

1455
01:36:29,699 --> 01:36:40,419
Right. It's the same sort of problem. But but when when when Iran said part of the deal is you have to stop bombing Lebanon.

1456
01:36:41,699 --> 01:36:48,799
Now, there's two ways to look at one is they knew that Israel wouldn't and therefore they put it there so that they didn't have to make a deal.

1457
01:36:48,799 --> 01:36:51,659
the other is that it's the high road

1458
01:36:51,659 --> 01:36:54,079
and they're saying we don't like the fact you're bombing Lebanon

1459
01:36:54,079 --> 01:36:57,379
yeah the Lebanon incursion is

1460
01:36:57,379 --> 01:37:00,519
incredibly egregious in my mind

1461
01:37:00,519 --> 01:37:01,559
where it's like why

1462
01:37:01,559 --> 01:37:04,279
you'll scream Hezbollah and all that

1463
01:37:04,279 --> 01:37:06,339
which is more egregious Lebanon or Gaza

1464
01:37:06,339 --> 01:37:10,079
I mean Gaza's a good offer

1465
01:37:10,079 --> 01:37:12,099
like Lebanon I know Lebanese people

1466
01:37:12,099 --> 01:37:16,059
well the reason you don't know anyone from Gaza

1467
01:37:16,059 --> 01:37:16,999
is because they're all dead

1468
01:37:16,999 --> 01:37:19,939
Yeah. I mean, say Fadina Moose. I mean, he's a.

1469
01:37:19,999 --> 01:37:22,059
And they haven't been let out. That's the other thing.

1470
01:37:22,579 --> 01:37:27,299
Yeah. They've been in a they've been in a in a concentration camp for decades.

1471
01:37:28,619 --> 01:37:32,079
It's weird. Why is this such a third rail that people can't touch?

1472
01:37:32,219 --> 01:37:34,759
Because, I mean, obviously, you're money and power.

1473
01:37:35,339 --> 01:37:42,999
Yeah. The other thing is, is that you could criticize Israel until October 7th.

1474
01:37:42,999 --> 01:37:51,799
7th. So you could say Jeffrey Epstein was Mossad. No one gave a shit. But when October 7th occurred,

1475
01:37:52,759 --> 01:37:58,159
Israel took off the gloves and said, we will punish anyone. We can get our mitts on,

1476
01:37:59,359 --> 01:38:12,519
which includes podcasters. But I'm pissed at him. I called the head of the JNS a pig fucking liar

1477
01:38:12,519 --> 01:38:14,939
after he called me a Holocaust-denying Nazi.

1478
01:38:16,199 --> 01:38:17,199
When did he do that?

1479
01:38:17,259 --> 01:38:17,939
Did he do that on X?

1480
01:38:18,199 --> 01:38:18,939
Last year.

1481
01:38:19,599 --> 01:38:22,079
He wrote an article about me.

1482
01:38:24,259 --> 01:38:26,239
He called me a Holocaust-denying Nazi.

1483
01:38:26,759 --> 01:38:27,599
Morty Klein.

1484
01:38:28,819 --> 01:38:29,319
A Nazi.

1485
01:38:29,619 --> 01:38:31,479
Actually, I didn't call him a pig-fucking liar.

1486
01:38:31,599 --> 01:38:34,199
What I said is I would never call you a pig-fucking liar

1487
01:38:34,199 --> 01:38:37,359
because I couldn't defend that completely.

1488
01:38:40,419 --> 01:38:41,419
Well, that's the other thing.

1489
01:38:41,419 --> 01:38:47,179
like everybody's getting called a nazi it's like okay it's like the term racism the anti-semite

1490
01:38:47,179 --> 01:39:03,042
the anti label is wearing off it it used to be people were terrified of being called an anti now fuck you The number one there a spiking anti

1491
01:39:05,142 --> 01:39:07,642
The problem is because of Israel.

1492
01:39:09,222 --> 01:39:12,362
Right? You want to stop anti-Semitism, stop

1493
01:39:12,362 --> 01:39:16,542
bombing the shit out, stop kicking people out of their homes. Can you imagine

1494
01:39:16,542 --> 01:39:20,222
what would you do if some guy, if Canada

1495
01:39:20,222 --> 01:39:24,922
somehow got feisty and came along and took your home and kicked you out of your home,

1496
01:39:26,442 --> 01:39:30,762
killed your relatives, what would you do? You'd become a terrorist.

1497
01:39:32,422 --> 01:39:34,082
And to your point, it's been going on for decades.

1498
01:39:34,982 --> 01:39:39,442
But before they kicked me out, if they kicked me out of my home, the guys who moved in

1499
01:39:39,442 --> 01:39:46,402
would not survive. They would. I've thought about this, the squatting problem we have in the United

1500
01:39:46,402 --> 01:39:49,662
States, I guarantee you no one can squat in my house.

1501
01:39:51,282 --> 01:39:54,142
I guarantee you. I'm going to show you.

1502
01:39:54,242 --> 01:39:58,022
I've shown you this before. See that lake out there? Yeah. Can you see it?

1503
01:39:58,022 --> 01:40:00,982
Yeah, there it is. Yeah, yeah. That's a deep lake.

1504
01:40:02,242 --> 01:40:04,662
You could hide a squatter at the bottom of that lake.

1505
01:40:06,082 --> 01:40:10,142
So if anyone came to my house and squatted, I would

1506
01:40:10,142 --> 01:40:13,962
just go in there with a Louisville slugger. And I would just

1507
01:40:13,962 --> 01:40:17,922
beat the living piss out of them. And I say, if you want to go

1508
01:40:17,922 --> 01:40:19,642
to the cops, the next one's going to be fatal.

1509
01:40:21,642 --> 01:40:25,162
You can now leave my house, go get some health care,

1510
01:40:25,582 --> 01:40:29,542
and I don't ever want to see again. And if you show up again, you're going to die.

1511
01:40:31,782 --> 01:40:33,042
That's how I'd handle it.

1512
01:40:33,962 --> 01:40:38,022
Why is that irrational? I'm on a jury and that

1513
01:40:38,022 --> 01:40:41,242
happens? The guy's getting off. I'm hanging that jury.

1514
01:40:41,242 --> 01:40:49,842
did you see the guy who wrote fake vaccine papers for people they vaccine i thought it was a woman

1515
01:40:49,842 --> 01:40:56,182
the nurse no i think it was a doctor maybe there's several i don't know but he they dropped the

1516
01:40:56,182 --> 01:41:04,522
charges now we got a problem when you when when that shows you the absurdity of the situation though

1517
01:41:04,522 --> 01:41:08,302
because it he shouldn't have to do that either

1518
01:41:08,302 --> 01:41:17,602
right so it's accountability where was this well again i think that's a core theme of this

1519
01:41:17,602 --> 01:41:23,522
conversation is accountability i think that's and swinging back to health care by the way i will

1520
01:41:23,522 --> 01:41:30,822
never get another vaccine never ever ever get another vaccine i don't trust them i did another

1521
01:41:30,822 --> 01:41:37,122
another good book is vaccine amen by aaron siri i thought i'd read everything i could about cobit

1522
01:41:37,122 --> 01:41:43,582
I don't want to read another, but I read it. You can't get to the end of that book without swearing off vaccines forever, forever.

1523
01:41:45,402 --> 01:41:49,302
Aaron Seary is a lawyer. He fought the cases. He uses court transcripts.

1524
01:41:49,322 --> 01:41:56,082
He shows you the sociopathic crime syndicate up front, personal.

1525
01:41:58,062 --> 01:42:03,762
And he he he he basically deposed every single major vaccinologist in the country.

1526
01:42:03,762 --> 01:42:11,402
and the transcripts show he he tore them to shreds and this is the guy because there's never

1527
01:42:11,402 --> 01:42:16,102
there's never been a vaccine that was tested correctly no there's never been a vaccine that

1528
01:42:16,102 --> 01:42:22,142
was tested correctly this is the bald guy right that's been testifying to come out the study yes

1529
01:42:22,142 --> 01:42:26,722
what was it the cincinnati hospital so someone like fauci should be taking the hag tried for

1530
01:42:26,722 --> 01:42:31,722
crimes against humanity and executed well that's straightforward going back to accountability that's

1531
01:42:31,722 --> 01:42:36,182
the frustrating part to like they'll like leave a little brog bread from i don't see how fauci

1532
01:42:36,182 --> 01:42:41,862
survives we're gonna drag him in yeah but they're saying they're gonna drag him in they have it

1533
01:42:41,862 --> 01:42:47,322
it's uh they're not going to but that's that they're not going to that's the point i'm trying

1534
01:42:47,322 --> 01:42:52,062
to make is like they they they know people want accountability and so they'll they'll like put

1535
01:42:52,062 --> 01:42:56,082
it out there like yeah we're gonna break it don't worry and then it never happens that's i'll tell

1536
01:42:56,082 --> 01:43:01,622
you what worked a judge released an illegal immigrant who then went out and raped some

1537
01:43:01,622 --> 01:43:11,042
and killed some girl the judge let him out and i think it was the next day or a day or two later

1538
01:43:11,042 --> 01:43:17,062
the judge walked out their front door and there was the guy's head on the doorstep really yeah

1539
01:43:17,062 --> 01:43:22,982
go ahead let him out we'll deal with them yeah well that's i mean they used to hang horse thieves

1540
01:43:22,982 --> 01:43:27,362
right yeah i mean that's and that's where the fourth turning bodies really come back it's like

1541
01:43:27,362 --> 01:43:31,522
if that's exactly right if you don't have any accountability like people are going to take it

1542
01:43:31,522 --> 01:43:39,782
into their own hands and that's exactly right and and and and right now the guilt is diffuse so if

1543
01:43:39,782 --> 01:43:44,742
you actually say what's the guilt of the covid well i produced a guilt hierarchy one year

1544
01:43:44,742 --> 01:43:51,602
where i said at the very bottom are the the guys who unknowingly did something that's that's fine

1545
01:43:51,602 --> 01:43:52,962
I have a problem.

1546
01:43:53,302 --> 01:43:58,942
There's guys who knowingly did something, but they were told, look, either you do this or you have to give up your career.

1547
01:43:59,142 --> 01:44:00,322
I understand that.

1548
01:44:00,842 --> 01:44:03,822
I took the vaccine because I was told you had to quit your job.

1549
01:44:04,382 --> 01:44:06,382
We will fire you if you don't take the vaccine.

1550
01:44:08,122 --> 01:44:09,102
And so I took the vaccine.

1551
01:44:10,005 --> 01:44:12,865
I did the risk reward ratio measurement.

1552
01:44:13,005 --> 01:44:15,825
I said, OK, it's it's a risk I got to take.

1553
01:44:15,905 --> 01:44:17,005
They're forcing me to do it.

1554
01:44:17,305 --> 01:44:19,445
I told the president of the university they blew it.

1555
01:44:20,905 --> 01:44:22,325
I was pretty clear on that.

1556
01:44:22,905 --> 01:44:29,305
And and I've got health issues that maybe are from it, but I got away with I got away with it.

1557
01:44:29,645 --> 01:44:31,305
Has there been any accountability there?

1558
01:44:31,385 --> 01:44:33,425
Has anybody admitted like, hey, we regret?

1559
01:44:33,425 --> 01:44:40,725
There have been organizations who've been sued for back pay and stuff for firing people.

1560
01:44:41,585 --> 01:44:45,185
The problem I had was, remember the vaccine came out in 2021.

1561
01:44:45,465 --> 01:44:47,325
I'd gotten canceled in 2020.

1562
01:44:48,105 --> 01:44:53,685
Very unpleasant experience, I should add, even though I like to think of myself as fairly resilient.

1563
01:44:53,685 --> 01:45:01,525
But but when you've got when you've got thousands of signatures trying to get you fired and graffiti all over the campus.

1564
01:45:02,685 --> 01:45:09,145
And articles written daily. About how you should be fired, things like that, that that's unpleasant.

1565
01:45:09,945 --> 01:45:13,845
And and I just kind of wrote it out because it was during the lockdown.

1566
01:45:14,585 --> 01:45:18,025
And what I didn't know is if Antifa was going to come and get me.

1567
01:45:18,825 --> 01:45:23,305
And so I slept with loaded guns. I was emotionally ready to blow someone's brains out.

1568
01:45:23,685 --> 01:45:27,965
and didn't have to because we're locked down

1569
01:45:27,965 --> 01:45:29,625
and Antifa probably doesn't have cars.

1570
01:45:31,905 --> 01:45:36,985
And right after that, I got told,

1571
01:45:37,065 --> 01:45:38,905
you're going to lose your job if you don't vaccinate.

1572
01:45:39,125 --> 01:45:41,145
And I had people saying, well, you should just fight it.

1573
01:45:41,185 --> 01:45:44,485
And I go, there are people waiting for me to make a mistake.

1574
01:45:46,505 --> 01:45:49,305
This is not like they're going to say, oh, we can't lose Dave.

1575
01:45:49,305 --> 01:45:50,785
We'll just let him off the hook.

1576
01:45:51,425 --> 01:45:53,145
There are people who say, got him.

1577
01:45:53,685 --> 01:46:00,805
got him. So I couldn't take the risk. And I could have quit my job.

1578
01:46:01,565 --> 01:46:06,365
I shouldn't have to make that choice. I don't blame the president of the university for doing it.

1579
01:46:06,885 --> 01:46:11,445
And again, I told him, I said, you blew it. At one point I said to him, I sent him an email.

1580
01:46:13,025 --> 01:46:16,065
I've had some interesting exchange. I've known him since the day he got to Cornell.

1581
01:46:16,065 --> 01:46:25,265
and uh and uh and uh what got me canceled was is i fought two labor movements on campus where i

1582
01:46:25,265 --> 01:46:33,265
the first one i played a major role but wasn't critical um and the unionization which was a bad

1583
01:46:33,265 --> 01:46:40,385
idea um lost on its own merits lack of merits and there was some smearing that went on but otherwise

1584
01:46:40,385 --> 01:46:47,365
not a big deal. The second one was when Randy Weingarten showed up with her labor union.

1585
01:46:48,205 --> 01:46:55,225
And I got a call from the provost, who is now the president, and said, we need you to organize

1586
01:46:55,225 --> 01:47:02,605
a counterattack. Late night, 1030 in the evening, no emails, no nothing like that. But I was on speed

1587
01:47:02,605 --> 01:47:06,765
dial with Cornell Legal. If I had a question, boom, they'd put me right through to Cornell Legal.

1588
01:47:06,765 --> 01:47:14,645
and uh so i organized a team and we won it by a whisker by a whisker and and the only reason we

1589
01:47:14,645 --> 01:47:22,425
won it is because uh i picked a fight and they bit they took the bait and then we had this fight we

1590
01:47:22,425 --> 01:47:28,665
we finally got the issues out on the table because of this fight and uh and they were mad at me so

1591
01:47:28,665 --> 01:47:36,545
they smeared the shit out of me those same issues and people were behind the cancellation in 2020

1592
01:47:36,545 --> 01:47:46,725
and so um and so uh so i'm i'm a bit infamous on campus yeah well i think you're a bit infamous

1593
01:47:46,725 --> 01:47:55,065
beyond campus too i think so i'm told um but but there's there's one day i put out a tweet

1594
01:47:55,065 --> 01:48:01,585
this is a funny story i put out a tweet and i said uh cornell was getting bad press and i said

1595
01:48:01,585 --> 01:48:05,965
you know cornell's been in the press a lot lately it's getting bad press this is a fairly utopian

1596
01:48:05,965 --> 01:48:13,685
in existence. And it's silly that faculty talk about being oppressed. We've got it made. And I

1597
01:48:13,685 --> 01:48:18,805
said, what we have to do is just find a way to get out of the news cycle. That's it. That's our only

1598
01:48:18,805 --> 01:48:25,485
problem. That was basically my tweet. And I get a call from my brother-in-law, my brother-in-law.

1599
01:48:26,045 --> 01:48:31,265
And he reads part of the tweet. Now, who's my brother-in-law? My brother-in-law is Ezra Cornell.

1600
01:48:31,265 --> 01:48:40,085
by birth trustee my wife is candace cornell and he reads me part of the tweet i said ezra

1601
01:48:40,085 --> 01:48:49,845
how do you see that he said my boss sent it to me i said daphne how did she see it that's his wife

1602
01:48:49,845 --> 01:48:56,725
and and he said no my other boss i said you're self-employed he said the chairman of the board

1603
01:48:56,725 --> 01:49:04,345
of trustees. And he calls him and says, Ezra, you might just know this guy because Ezra Cornell

1604
01:49:04,345 --> 01:49:10,805
in Ithaca kind of knows everybody. Right. This is not a name you hide in Ithaca.

1605
01:49:12,145 --> 01:49:17,065
And he calls him and says, do you might just know this guy? And Ezra says to the chairman of the

1606
01:49:17,065 --> 01:49:27,641
board he says yeah that my brother And they laughed And he was just thrilled that there was someone on the faculty who wasn a douchebag

1607
01:49:28,661 --> 01:49:29,101
Yeah.

1608
01:49:29,501 --> 01:49:30,261
And so.

1609
01:49:30,261 --> 01:49:31,461
Actually had some common sense.

1610
01:49:32,641 --> 01:49:40,141
And, you know, and when I was getting canceled, I was getting, I was spending hours on the phone with David Einhorn and with my brother-in-law and stuff like that.

1611
01:49:40,201 --> 01:49:42,061
I had friends in very high places.

1612
01:49:42,061 --> 01:49:47,541
Both of them went into the president's office independently and said, don't even think about doing something stupid here.

1613
01:49:48,741 --> 01:49:52,521
And and so I wasn't going to get fired, but it was so miserable.

1614
01:49:53,241 --> 01:49:56,621
Yeah. And I don't want to fight that again.

1615
01:49:56,621 --> 01:50:04,061
And then last year when I went on Tucker and I made the mistake of of in an effort to describe how Stalin was horrific,

1616
01:50:04,061 --> 01:50:11,021
I made reference to him being, you know, worse than Hitler and that one could argue we should have sided with Hitler and fought Stalin.

1617
01:50:12,061 --> 01:50:14,421
And by the way, I was quoting Patton.

1618
01:50:15,141 --> 01:50:18,141
George Patton at the end of the war said that.

1619
01:50:19,481 --> 01:50:22,541
And then the Jews went at me.

1620
01:50:24,781 --> 01:50:25,941
The Zionists.

1621
01:50:27,181 --> 01:50:29,641
And so I'm pissed at the Zionists.

1622
01:50:29,761 --> 01:50:30,581
Not the Jews.

1623
01:50:30,921 --> 01:50:35,481
I've talked to many of my colleagues, one of which actually spent two years in an attic in Germany.

1624
01:50:36,921 --> 01:50:40,501
And none of them support what they're seeing.

1625
01:50:42,061 --> 01:50:43,501
They're all frustrated.

1626
01:50:44,561 --> 01:50:49,021
They're all potentially suffering from anti-Semitism,

1627
01:50:49,381 --> 01:50:51,701
which is caused by Israel.

1628
01:50:53,481 --> 01:50:56,561
Yeah, I think very obviously, especially with the BB.

1629
01:50:57,941 --> 01:50:58,461
BB.

1630
01:50:59,461 --> 01:51:02,901
BB, and then you have that hardcore Zionist,

1631
01:51:03,161 --> 01:51:06,761
sort of orthodox sect.

1632
01:51:06,761 --> 01:51:09,041
Yeah, I don't even understand the Christian Zionists.

1633
01:51:09,281 --> 01:51:10,601
Those, like Huckabee?

1634
01:51:10,601 --> 01:51:15,501
i mean they believe in uh what is it the the showfield's bible where they think

1635
01:51:15,501 --> 01:51:20,801
they i know they want to pop off there because they believe i want a signed copy of the show

1636
01:51:20,801 --> 01:51:28,461
field box go feel bible bible um boy did tucker take him to the cleaners he did it just like he

1637
01:51:28,461 --> 01:51:34,221
did ted cruz which is why ted cruz went at me last year and why laura loomer went at me last

1638
01:51:34,221 --> 01:51:37,401
year and why Mark Levin went at me last year.

1639
01:51:38,781 --> 01:51:42,781
And I called Laura Loomer. I said, she's the master of click baiting.

1640
01:51:42,781 --> 01:51:44,561
And then said, and then,

1641
01:51:44,701 --> 01:51:48,841
and then referred to from that point on in the writeup as the master baiter.

1642
01:51:50,141 --> 01:51:53,621
And, and, and, but then Victor Davis Hanson,

1643
01:51:53,621 --> 01:51:57,601
not only went at me who I thought was a good guy,

1644
01:51:57,961 --> 01:52:03,221
but he went at me repeatedly and he was wrong.

1645
01:52:03,221 --> 01:52:11,801
he was wrong he was factually wrong what was he saying about you well he was saying first of all

1646
01:52:11,801 --> 01:52:16,401
that my quoting of patten wasn't right because pat said at the end of the war and i go yeah

1647
01:52:16,401 --> 01:52:24,281
what's your point many i said i said in the tucker interview i said i said you know i maybe

1648
01:52:24,281 --> 01:52:27,801
maybe there wouldn't have even been a holocaust if the alliances because

1649
01:52:27,801 --> 01:52:31,221
Hitler was actually looking to form an alliance with Britain.

1650
01:52:32,521 --> 01:52:36,521
If we had formed an alliance with Britain, there might be a lot fewer dead Jews.

1651
01:52:37,481 --> 01:52:42,541
Because you control your allies a lot better than you control your enemies.

1652
01:52:44,121 --> 01:52:46,141
So maybe the Holocaust wouldn't have occurred.

1653
01:52:47,381 --> 01:52:47,821
Right?

1654
01:52:49,221 --> 01:52:50,881
That's a counterfactual argument.

1655
01:52:51,001 --> 01:52:52,941
That's just saying, you know, what if we had fought?

1656
01:52:53,161 --> 01:52:55,561
And I go, this is not a butterfly flap in its wings.

1657
01:52:55,661 --> 01:52:57,161
This is a big change.

1658
01:52:57,161 --> 01:53:02,301
maybe it wouldn't have occurred yeah and that's and hansen said that's preposterous i go no it's

1659
01:53:02,301 --> 01:53:06,201
not fucking preposterous well that's like it's like the thought control it's like why can't you

1660
01:53:06,201 --> 01:53:11,041
even have a thought experiment to explore something right that's all it was and and as

1661
01:53:11,041 --> 01:53:16,541
tucker said as he attacked levin for attacking me he said he said he said how's that anti-semitic

1662
01:53:16,541 --> 01:53:22,561
what are you talking about and um and and levin was sort of threatening to use the power of

1663
01:53:22,561 --> 01:53:31,541
television to go at me and stuff and i i i called him a rabid bobcat and heat um but but it was

1664
01:53:31,541 --> 01:53:38,261
shocking it was like a little ptsd from getting canceled you know five years earlier yeah

1665
01:53:38,261 --> 01:53:44,681
resurfaced and so i was really a little dazed and confused by it and i asked the question do you

1666
01:53:44,681 --> 01:53:49,021
really want to play in the big leagues like this do you do you really want to get into these fights

1667
01:53:49,021 --> 01:53:51,721
are you Candace Owens? Because if you're not, be careful.

1668
01:53:53,861 --> 01:53:56,841
But I've kind of realized watching

1669
01:53:56,841 --> 01:54:00,881
Dave Smith and Candace Owens and these guys, I go, you know, you're a fucking

1670
01:54:00,881 --> 01:54:04,941
pussy. You know that? You're a fucking pussy if you don't get out there

1671
01:54:04,941 --> 01:54:08,921
and say, you know, this is a genocide. By the way, October 7th

1672
01:54:08,921 --> 01:54:12,821
was clearly a false flag. Clearly

1673
01:54:12,821 --> 01:54:16,921
a false flag. I mean, so they held the door wide

1674
01:54:16,921 --> 01:54:21,021
open it here's what i did i wrote about it but didn't publish it i'm gonna use it i think i think

1675
01:54:21,021 --> 01:54:27,621
i'm gonna publish it but using exclusively israeli sources i can make the case that netanyahu knew

1676
01:54:27,621 --> 01:54:42,738
they were coming months in advance months in advance well she uh she in bitcoin now like effort she a journalist and she was effort i had several conversations with yes yeah and i mean i think she been in the israeli

1677
01:54:42,738 --> 01:54:47,478
and effort makes me feel like a pussy bite because she's out there fighting the good fight

1678
01:54:47,478 --> 01:54:51,258
and brett winesing was out there fighting the good fight and he makes me so i said okay so you

1679
01:54:51,258 --> 01:54:57,198
got to stay in the game you got to go on brett's podcast and you got to go on podcasts and and and

1680
01:54:57,198 --> 01:55:02,778
and make the case that this is a genocide, that these guys are douchebags.

1681
01:55:04,558 --> 01:55:11,838
So I read a bunch of books on the origin of Palestine-Israel conflict and stuff like that.

1682
01:55:11,838 --> 01:55:17,498
I mean, Pape wrote a very nice book and some others trying to understand.

1683
01:55:18,278 --> 01:55:25,958
People think that the Jewish state of Israel started and really the whole thing was triggered by World War II.

1684
01:55:26,058 --> 01:55:26,498
It wasn't.

1685
01:55:26,498 --> 01:55:28,858
It was in the making at the turn of the century.

1686
01:55:29,918 --> 01:55:32,858
They just used the war as the final launching pad.

1687
01:55:33,658 --> 01:55:35,598
But October 7th, here's a question I'd like to ask.

1688
01:55:35,678 --> 01:55:39,578
I said, is there a country that doesn't lie to optimize this narrative?

1689
01:55:39,978 --> 01:55:40,618
Can you name one?

1690
01:55:41,578 --> 01:55:42,238
The answer is no.

1691
01:55:43,138 --> 01:55:45,998
There's no country that doesn't lie to optimize this narrative.

1692
01:55:47,658 --> 01:55:48,138
Propaganda.

1693
01:55:48,358 --> 01:55:49,638
Every country uses it.

1694
01:55:50,278 --> 01:55:52,838
I said, therefore, I said, what happened on October 7th?

1695
01:55:52,838 --> 01:56:02,238
And I watch people kind of recoil back a little bit because they realize that my rhetorical question is going to be a problem for them.

1696
01:56:03,678 --> 01:56:07,018
And then someone will say often, I guess I'm like, well, we know a lot of people died.

1697
01:56:07,098 --> 01:56:11,318
I go, really? How many? How many died?

1698
01:56:12,698 --> 01:56:15,518
You know, how many hostages were there? Do you know?

1699
01:56:15,518 --> 01:56:22,458
were some of the hostages possibly being put up in motel eights being fed prime rib waiting to be

1700
01:56:22,458 --> 01:56:24,078
released and to tell their horror story

1701
01:56:24,078 --> 01:56:30,758
were some of the people who were killed possibly killed by israeli fire

1702
01:56:30,758 --> 01:56:35,878
is if i'd asked you marty on october 6th

1703
01:56:35,878 --> 01:56:42,338
Hamas is going to drop 800 guys by paraglider

1704
01:56:42,338 --> 01:56:48,318
into Israel. How long would it take for Israel to clean up that mess?

1705
01:56:48,978 --> 01:56:52,138
One thing I have great faith in is that Israel knows how to defend itself.

1706
01:56:54,518 --> 01:56:57,238
I would have said maybe 10 minutes,

1707
01:56:57,618 --> 01:57:00,758
but I'm not sure they would have made it to the ground alive.

1708
01:57:00,758 --> 01:57:07,178
they didn't run around raping and pillaging and taking hostages for eight hours

1709
01:57:07,178 --> 01:57:14,018
there's no chance israel let that happen there's no chance israel couldn't have stopped that no

1710
01:57:14,018 --> 01:57:21,098
chance yeah no chance i mean that's what like effort reported on like while it's happening

1711
01:57:21,098 --> 01:57:28,258
so effort's first report i think was with a in a on a podcast with brett weinstein

1712
01:57:28,258 --> 01:57:34,638
and they very, very delicately talked about what didn't make sense.

1713
01:57:34,718 --> 01:57:37,898
You could see them sort of walking out on the thin ice going,

1714
01:57:38,038 --> 01:57:39,718
holy fuck, this is nerve wracking.

1715
01:57:40,458 --> 01:57:42,578
I take my hat off to both of those two.

1716
01:57:44,078 --> 01:57:47,898
And I don't blame the Jews of the world for not speaking up.

1717
01:57:48,758 --> 01:57:52,058
That's, you know, it's like Title IX, right?

1718
01:57:52,058 --> 01:57:55,278
The, you know, transgenders in sports, right?

1719
01:57:55,698 --> 01:57:58,198
Preposterous situation, absurd situation.

1720
01:57:58,258 --> 01:58:06,778
I directly blame all the adult former female athletes for not speaking up.

1721
01:58:07,418 --> 01:58:13,538
Where the fuck were they? They benefited from sports. They should have said, what the fuck are

1722
01:58:13,538 --> 01:58:19,958
you doing to women's sports? And they didn't. You're cowards. I blame you. And then Riley Gaines

1723
01:58:19,958 --> 01:58:26,218
finally came out and started doing it. And now you now you don't get you don't get hammered for.

1724
01:58:26,218 --> 01:58:28,638
But Riley Gaines took the arrows, right?

1725
01:58:29,238 --> 01:58:30,258
She took the arrows.

1726
01:58:31,238 --> 01:58:32,478
And and.

1727
01:58:34,138 --> 01:58:39,758
But a Jew who comes out against Israel is really going in harm's way.

1728
01:58:42,378 --> 01:58:46,618
And so I don't I understand why they don't want to speak up.

1729
01:58:47,358 --> 01:58:49,178
You're asking for so much trouble.

1730
01:58:51,238 --> 01:58:52,818
But someone's got to.

1731
01:58:54,458 --> 01:58:56,158
I thought Trump was going to.

1732
01:58:56,218 --> 01:58:58,298
yeah it's just like

1733
01:58:58,298 --> 01:59:01,018
from my perspective I got into

1734
01:59:01,018 --> 01:59:03,298
I'm very

1735
01:59:03,298 --> 01:59:05,298
like the wars in the Middle East

1736
01:59:05,298 --> 01:59:07,358
growing up radicalized me to the point

1737
01:59:07,358 --> 01:59:09,158
of like becoming like very anti-war

1738
01:59:09,158 --> 01:59:10,418
I still am to this day

1739
01:59:10,418 --> 01:59:13,198
I'm profoundly anti-war I make the hippies

1740
01:59:13,198 --> 01:59:15,038
of the 60s look like bikers

1741
01:59:15,038 --> 01:59:16,198
it's just

1742
01:59:16,198 --> 01:59:18,478
no no it's just very

1743
01:59:18,478 --> 01:59:21,198
very concerning

1744
01:59:21,198 --> 01:59:23,238
to see that we're getting back in the Middle East

1745
01:59:23,238 --> 01:59:24,018
from wars and

1746
01:59:24,018 --> 01:59:26,578
that this is going on

1747
01:59:26,578 --> 01:59:27,298
it's a lot of persistence

1748
01:59:27,298 --> 01:59:28,998
and that it is like a third world topic

1749
01:59:28,998 --> 01:59:30,438
because again I grew up

1750
01:59:30,438 --> 01:59:32,998
in the Philly area

1751
01:59:32,998 --> 01:59:34,598
half my middle school was Jewish

1752
01:59:34,598 --> 01:59:36,697
I've got Jewish friends that work with Jewish people

1753
01:59:36,697 --> 01:59:38,898
doesn't vaccinate you

1754
01:59:38,898 --> 01:59:52,034
that vaccine doesn work either oh some of my best friends are black I got a black friend I I don even my brother said several times you know you should say that And I go no

1755
01:59:53,074 --> 01:59:56,554
No, because it's a hollow statement, you know.

1756
01:59:57,034 --> 01:59:58,694
It's a, oh, I have Jewish friends.

1757
01:59:58,814 --> 02:00:00,954
Well, here's an interesting question I've had.

1758
02:00:02,014 --> 02:00:11,014
This is, when I got to Cornell, I think probably half my colleagues were Jewish in chemistry.

1759
02:00:11,014 --> 02:00:17,974
what i'll also tell you is i didn't know because it wasn't a variable for me it wasn't anything i

1760
02:00:17,974 --> 02:00:22,554
cared about so so i knew a couple like like one who has a nobel prize who lived in the attic i

1761
02:00:22,554 --> 02:00:27,574
knew who he was jewish right that was no problem but i later found out other colleagues were jewish

1762
02:00:27,574 --> 02:00:33,354
i go oh i didn't know right and and what's interesting is now they're not

1763
02:00:33,354 --> 02:00:37,194
and I don't know why.

1764
02:00:39,174 --> 02:00:42,514
So the Jewish influences, it's like they've been replaced by

1765
02:00:42,514 --> 02:00:45,354
Chinese nationals or something. I don't know.

1766
02:00:45,354 --> 02:00:49,354
And but where did these exceedingly

1767
02:00:49,954 --> 02:00:52,054
bright and talented and ambitious and

1768
02:00:52,054 --> 02:00:57,414
where'd they go? My guess is Wall Street or

1769
02:00:57,414 --> 02:01:01,034
Silicon Valley or something, right? Somehow chemistry. It's also

1770
02:01:01,034 --> 02:01:08,094
possible that Cornell, for some historical reason, which I don't have a good feel for,

1771
02:01:08,874 --> 02:01:14,314
maybe was one of the first schools to hire Jews regularly.

1772
02:01:15,854 --> 02:01:19,414
So it's a conceivable related story.

1773
02:01:19,634 --> 02:01:25,054
There's a guy named Henry Gilman, published 1,400 papers at Iowa State, should have got

1774
02:01:25,054 --> 02:01:27,434
the Nobel Prize for that.

1775
02:01:27,434 --> 02:01:43,574
What he really should have gotten the Nobel Prize for was he recruited black students back when it wasn't cool, back in the 50s, in the 40s, to go to grad school at Ohio State.

1776
02:01:43,574 --> 02:01:56,654
There's a picture of Henry, old man, sitting in a chair, surrounded by five black guys in suits who were college and university presidents who worked for him.

1777
02:01:57,434 --> 02:02:01,514
that is changing society.

1778
02:02:03,034 --> 02:02:08,474
So we might have had a very heavy Jewish influence at Cornell

1779
02:02:08,474 --> 02:02:14,574
because somehow we embraced them first.

1780
02:02:14,714 --> 02:02:17,314
We were one of the early, early schools to embrace them.

1781
02:02:17,434 --> 02:02:17,994
I don't know.

1782
02:02:19,374 --> 02:02:22,974
We had a guy named Peter Dubai, who was one of the most famous

1783
02:02:22,974 --> 02:02:30,074
classical physicists of the 20th century early 20th century Nobel Prize you name it left Germany

1784
02:02:30,074 --> 02:02:37,574
in 39 you know and at one point someone wrote a book claiming he was a Nazi

1785
02:02:37,574 --> 02:02:46,554
and there's Dubai Institutes all over all over Europe they're called Dubai Institutes

1786
02:02:46,554 --> 02:02:55,234
he was really that famous he was sort of in this in the einstein world and um in fact in that that

1787
02:02:55,234 --> 02:03:00,394
famous picture foundations of modern physics where there's like 30 physicists einstein and

1788
02:03:00,394 --> 02:03:07,594
de broglie and these guys he's in that picture and so he was at cornell and and when i was

1789
02:03:07,594 --> 02:03:15,554
probably about 1986 or 7 or something like that this book came out and they started peeling his

1790
02:03:15,554 --> 02:03:22,274
name off the Dubai Institutes in Europe. They all got cowardly. They started yanking his name off,

1791
02:03:22,314 --> 02:03:27,394
and the evidence was Spartan. Someone found a goddamn letter in which he wrote Heil Hitler.

1792
02:03:27,554 --> 02:03:33,134
Well, in Germany, if you didn't say Heil Hitler, you ended up in a gulag somewhere. And he also

1793
02:03:33,134 --> 02:03:37,254
helped families get out of Germany, Jewish families and stuff. So it was just an absurd

1794
02:03:37,254 --> 02:03:43,874
accusation. So instead of pulling his name off chair positions and stuff that we have in chemistry,

1795
02:03:43,874 --> 02:03:45,334
We hired a historian.

1796
02:03:46,854 --> 02:03:47,414
Said.

1797
02:03:48,334 --> 02:03:50,014
Go find out what the truth is.

1798
02:03:50,474 --> 02:03:57,234
And he came back and we wrote an article in Physics Today and said, this is why we are not abandoning Peter Dubai.

1799
02:03:58,354 --> 02:04:00,634
And and and we were correct.

1800
02:04:01,094 --> 02:04:04,574
Now, here's an interesting some plot.

1801
02:04:04,814 --> 02:04:05,654
I know I'm rambling.

1802
02:04:06,894 --> 02:04:07,334
I love you.

1803
02:04:07,334 --> 02:04:12,294
We wrote we wrote a letter sort of from the department.

1804
02:04:13,874 --> 02:04:18,974
that denouncing the people who denounced Dubai,

1805
02:04:19,874 --> 02:04:21,394
one person dissented.

1806
02:04:22,394 --> 02:04:25,234
It was my colleague who lived in an attic for two years.

1807
02:04:25,894 --> 02:04:27,694
And he wrote an independent letter,

1808
02:04:27,734 --> 02:04:30,334
and he has tremendous influence with his Nobel Prize and stuff.

1809
02:04:31,394 --> 02:04:35,894
And I remember at the time feeling betrayed by him,

1810
02:04:35,934 --> 02:04:36,594
although I understood.

1811
02:04:38,674 --> 02:04:41,954
And over the years, I realized, no,

1812
02:04:41,954 --> 02:04:48,634
you should almost never sign a group letter because group letters require you compromise.

1813
02:04:49,594 --> 02:04:56,234
It's going to be some bland bullshit thing that you somehow all agreed to sign.

1814
02:04:56,894 --> 02:04:59,954
But it's not what you would have written if you...

1815
02:04:59,990 --> 02:05:04,250
You wrote the letter. And I realized.

1816
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:08,910
His dissent was a very important part of the process.

1817
02:05:10,410 --> 02:05:13,710
And that I just was wrong thinking he shouldn't have dissent like that.

1818
02:05:14,650 --> 02:05:18,950
Although, again, I understood it because he had to hate Nazis like no one else.

1819
02:05:20,370 --> 02:05:23,530
And and so I won't sign group letters.

1820
02:05:24,270 --> 02:05:26,070
Some guy wrote a journal article.

1821
02:05:26,990 --> 02:05:27,750
He's dead now.

1822
02:05:28,370 --> 02:05:31,250
Saying that women have hurt organic chemistry.

1823
02:05:33,190 --> 02:05:34,750
I didn't even read it.

1824
02:05:35,570 --> 02:05:38,630
I'm thinking, you really didn't think that one through.

1825
02:05:39,970 --> 02:05:44,950
Even if you can make a case why maybe affirmative action or something has done something,

1826
02:05:45,430 --> 02:05:46,690
keep that to yourself, right?

1827
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:48,190
Society doesn't want to hear this.

1828
02:05:49,030 --> 02:05:50,130
And he got pounded.

1829
02:05:50,130 --> 02:05:55,910
And it was a German-based journal that published it, prominent.

1830
02:05:57,710 --> 02:06:07,050
And the something like 16 advisory board members from the U.S. all resigned from the advisory board.

1831
02:06:08,450 --> 02:06:10,050
I have a problem with that.

1832
02:06:10,730 --> 02:06:15,450
I have a problem because you really didn't have a choice.

1833
02:06:16,670 --> 02:06:18,610
You're going to be the one who says, I'm not resigning?

1834
02:06:18,610 --> 02:06:19,450
No.

1835
02:06:20,130 --> 02:06:26,830
you didn't get you were you lost your autonomy when it became too politically hot

1836
02:06:26,830 --> 02:06:35,350
you didn't dare speak up so i i i really really take my hat off to the people who stand up for

1837
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:43,350
the underdog when no one else will now interestingly there was evidence in the past that trump was the

1838
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:48,870
guy who did this sort of thing there's all these anecdotes of things where like dana what's his

1839
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:50,330
name, the professional run guy.

1840
02:06:50,750 --> 02:06:51,470
Dana White.

1841
02:06:53,470 --> 02:06:54,890
And how Trump

1842
02:06:54,890 --> 02:06:56,250
was the only guy who backed him.

1843
02:06:56,970 --> 02:06:58,930
Yeah. He had his first TV deal or something like that.

1844
02:06:59,010 --> 02:07:00,950
Wasn't there like, I forget where it was.

1845
02:07:01,250 --> 02:07:02,870
But then here's the problem.

1846
02:07:03,530 --> 02:07:04,590
I'm reading about

1847
02:07:04,590 --> 02:07:05,950
Bush family secrets,

1848
02:07:06,530 --> 02:07:07,810
family of secrets, the book.

1849
02:07:09,210 --> 02:07:10,830
And they say that what they do

1850
02:07:10,830 --> 02:07:11,730
is they bury

1851
02:07:11,730 --> 02:07:14,670
stories deep

1852
02:07:14,670 --> 02:07:17,090
years in advance

1853
02:07:17,090 --> 02:07:21,310
and then make it such that a journalist discovers it.

1854
02:07:22,150 --> 02:07:24,150
And because they dug it up themselves,

1855
02:07:24,730 --> 02:07:26,650
they really believe it.

1856
02:07:27,190 --> 02:07:29,890
And they shepherd this story into delight.

1857
02:07:30,150 --> 02:07:32,090
And so 30 years ago, Trump said,

1858
02:07:32,170 --> 02:07:34,010
someday I think I'm going to run for president.

1859
02:07:34,090 --> 02:07:34,770
I might need it.

1860
02:07:35,390 --> 02:07:37,210
He can start burying these stories.

1861
02:07:39,070 --> 02:07:39,770
Seeding them.

1862
02:07:40,650 --> 02:07:40,990
Mm-hmm.

1863
02:07:41,530 --> 02:07:43,050
To be used at a later date.

1864
02:07:43,050 --> 02:07:51,050
what um where do we go from here what are you what are you looking for

1865
02:07:51,050 --> 02:07:57,910
fourth turning yeah i'm i think we're very i think we're very close i've said this for so

1866
02:07:57,910 --> 02:08:03,310
many years that it's absurd i'm the broken clock i like to say to people call me a broken clock

1867
02:08:03,310 --> 02:08:09,170
if when that broken clock is correct it blows up your fucking house you should start paying

1868
02:08:09,170 --> 02:08:20,170
attention to what time it is. Because I put the probability, put it this way, if you give me a

1869
02:08:20,170 --> 02:08:27,870
choice of saying a correction to these current markets is 40% or 80 to 90%, I would have to take

1870
02:08:27,870 --> 02:08:36,950
the latter. I do not believe 40% gets us anywhere. If you look at historically, right now, by every

1871
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:40,810
rational metric evaluation, we're about 200%, 3x.

1872
02:08:41,670 --> 02:08:44,410
People don't understand that math, even they're so thick sometimes.

1873
02:08:45,170 --> 02:08:48,690
If we're 200% over historical average valuation, we got a

1874
02:08:48,690 --> 02:08:52,370
65, 66% correction

1875
02:08:52,370 --> 02:08:56,390
to get the average valuation.

1876
02:08:58,470 --> 02:09:02,690
And my understanding of average is you got to spend half your time below and half your time

1877
02:09:02,690 --> 02:09:12,450
above it or it's not your average and if you look at things like the case shiller pe from 1870 to

1878
02:09:12,450 --> 02:09:20,370
1990 at average 15 it's a reconstructed pe for those who are shitting their thong um

1879
02:09:21,570 --> 02:09:25,810
it averaged 15 and now it's 42 43.

1880
02:09:25,810 --> 02:09:34,010
right it's way they're all out of whack they're all you know buffett's indicator you know

1881
02:09:34,010 --> 02:09:41,210
market cap to gdp and i've asked people explain to me why that should trend they their answers suck

1882
02:09:41,210 --> 02:09:47,270
well that i mean then you get to like the consumer side like housing looks like it's

1883
02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:52,730
turning over uh obviously inflation seems to be rearing its head again well i think we should be

1884
02:09:52,730 --> 02:09:53,610
raising rates.

1885
02:09:55,370 --> 02:09:56,570
It's on the table, isn't it?

1886
02:09:57,450 --> 02:09:58,730
It is on the table. By the way,

1887
02:09:58,730 --> 02:10:00,610
what do you think of Warsh? If you had to say,

1888
02:10:00,690 --> 02:10:01,570
what's Warsh going to do?

1889
02:10:04,370 --> 02:10:04,850
I'm not

1890
02:10:04,850 --> 02:10:06,230
going to pretend to know exactly what he's going to do.

1891
02:10:06,350 --> 02:10:21,547
What I do know for certain is that No what your guess It closest to the pin Marty You got to you got to make the shot here What do you what your call I I think he does raise maybe a quarter of a point

1892
02:10:21,607 --> 02:10:26,747
I don't mean short term, long term. What's his what what is his administration going to be?

1893
02:10:27,307 --> 02:10:34,947
They're going to be the one that. Basically, welds the Treasury and the Fed together, makes it politically palatable.

1894
02:10:34,947 --> 02:10:38,487
they're just going to fully nationalize this whole thing

1895
02:10:38,487 --> 02:10:43,487
is it possible that he's put in there

1896
02:10:43,487 --> 02:10:47,247
as a hawk which he has been for 15 years

1897
02:10:47,247 --> 02:10:51,507
to be the guy to take us

1898
02:10:51,507 --> 02:10:52,587
into the valley of death

1899
02:10:52,587 --> 02:10:55,407
I wouldn't be shocked

1900
02:10:55,407 --> 02:10:59,607
a lot of people say new boss same as the old boss

1901
02:10:59,607 --> 02:11:00,327
are you sure

1902
02:11:00,327 --> 02:11:04,827
certainly Volcker wasn't new boss same as the old boss

1903
02:11:05,827 --> 02:11:07,627
And Volcker didn't do it for us.

1904
02:11:07,847 --> 02:11:09,427
They never do it for us.

1905
02:11:10,907 --> 02:11:13,307
They did it because the banking system needed it.

1906
02:11:13,387 --> 02:11:14,647
It had to projectile vomit.

1907
02:11:16,467 --> 02:11:19,407
Volcker did it for the banking system, just like every other Fed chair.

1908
02:11:20,527 --> 02:11:23,187
I think right now, I think we're in a situation where they go,

1909
02:11:23,187 --> 02:11:24,747
we got to projectile vomit.

1910
02:11:25,287 --> 02:11:29,767
Get Warsh in there, stick his finger down his throat, projectile vomit.

1911
02:11:31,567 --> 02:11:32,047
Purge.

1912
02:11:32,047 --> 02:11:36,427
purge and then have the treasury step in

1913
02:11:36,427 --> 02:11:41,447
I think it could be part of the ultimate solution

1914
02:11:41,447 --> 02:11:44,367
the final solution we should say given our chat

1915
02:11:44,367 --> 02:11:48,447
just look at outside of everything we've discussed today

1916
02:11:48,447 --> 02:11:52,227
just look like the trend towards nationalization

1917
02:11:52,227 --> 02:11:54,827
like buying equity stakes in Intel, Dell

1918
02:11:54,827 --> 02:11:57,947
rare earth metals companies

1919
02:11:57,947 --> 02:12:02,927
I mean, it seems like they're making like wartime.

1920
02:12:03,507 --> 02:12:08,147
I could imagine something like that.

1921
02:12:08,307 --> 02:12:11,627
I can't rule out the possibility that I could support something.

1922
02:12:12,207 --> 02:12:14,147
That's what stable coins are to a certain extent.

1923
02:12:14,827 --> 02:12:15,347
Yeah, right.

1924
02:12:16,127 --> 02:12:17,847
Buying shares of Intel?

1925
02:12:18,287 --> 02:12:18,687
No.

1926
02:12:18,827 --> 02:12:20,607
And by the way, Intel's rolling over.

1927
02:12:21,527 --> 02:12:22,747
It's just a burst.

1928
02:12:22,847 --> 02:12:24,127
Trump probably made a ton of money.

1929
02:12:25,527 --> 02:12:27,847
Did you see what his plan is now?

1930
02:12:27,947 --> 02:12:31,167
He posts all his posts on True Social.

1931
02:12:31,427 --> 02:12:33,107
Yeah, now you've got to pay to get it five minutes early.

1932
02:12:34,007 --> 02:12:34,767
That's right.

1933
02:12:35,407 --> 02:12:36,127
That's right.

1934
02:12:36,427 --> 02:12:37,107
We talked about this.

1935
02:12:37,107 --> 02:12:38,927
Oh, my God.

1936
02:12:39,607 --> 02:12:41,127
Oh, my God.

1937
02:12:41,547 --> 02:12:42,467
It's insane.

1938
02:12:43,087 --> 02:12:44,127
How is that?

1939
02:12:44,487 --> 02:12:46,967
That's so absurdly criminal.

1940
02:12:48,947 --> 02:12:52,227
I mean, that's worse than Melania coin or whatever.

1941
02:12:53,947 --> 02:12:56,227
Then you got, here's another theory.

1942
02:12:56,367 --> 02:12:57,447
I'm working on all these theories.

1943
02:12:57,947 --> 02:12:59,367
So you got Ivanka.

1944
02:13:01,127 --> 02:13:04,547
She did her interview where they made her look angelic.

1945
02:13:04,587 --> 02:13:06,047
They almost put wings on her.

1946
02:13:06,127 --> 02:13:07,507
The whole everything was white.

1947
02:13:07,607 --> 02:13:09,107
It was like she was in heaven.

1948
02:13:10,167 --> 02:13:17,107
And she's talking about her and Jared were swimming and they discovered an island, you know, with their buddy Nat Rothschild.

1949
02:13:18,087 --> 02:13:20,647
I'm going, oh, my God, gag me with a spoon.

1950
02:13:20,807 --> 02:13:20,967
Right.

1951
02:13:21,047 --> 02:13:27,447
It's like, are you are you like aware of all the conspiracies or is this is this one of those things where you have to be like blatantly explicit?

1952
02:13:27,947 --> 02:13:35,047
in your face so so so so the good news is the albanians who own the island are saying no hell

1953
02:13:35,047 --> 02:13:39,427
no you're not taking our fucking island it's not your island i don't care you're not buying it we

1954
02:13:39,427 --> 02:13:44,687
i don't give a shit what you do you're just not getting this island enough i'm hoping that holds

1955
02:13:44,687 --> 02:13:52,947
up but but i'm looking at the i'm looking at the fact that trump has gone pro-zionist

1956
02:13:52,947 --> 02:13:58,347
his daughters married a very capable

1957
02:13:58,347 --> 02:14:02,507
Jewish man. You go, okay, that happens.

1958
02:14:03,407 --> 02:14:07,107
But he's also part of an exceedingly

1959
02:14:07,107 --> 02:14:10,627
powerful Zionist family,

1960
02:14:11,207 --> 02:14:14,887
which is getting a little coincidental now.

1961
02:14:16,687 --> 02:14:19,907
And I start looking at this, I'm going, let me see if I got this right.

1962
02:14:19,907 --> 02:14:24,067
the king of France marries his daughter

1963
02:14:24,067 --> 02:14:28,487
to the son of the king of Germany

1964
02:14:28,487 --> 02:14:31,747
so that they have an alliance.

1965
02:14:35,987 --> 02:14:38,247
What if Ivanka and Jared, by the way,

1966
02:14:38,367 --> 02:14:42,267
so you go, oh, that's absurd. Turns out the matchmaking for those two

1967
02:14:42,267 --> 02:14:46,107
supposedly was this Chinese woman who is very prominent.

1968
02:14:46,107 --> 02:14:48,687
and their relationship

1969
02:14:48,687 --> 02:14:52,487
started to go on the skids at one point

1970
02:14:52,487 --> 02:14:54,267
and she sort of swooped in again

1971
02:14:54,267 --> 02:14:57,247
to try to save the day supposedly

1972
02:14:57,247 --> 02:15:00,347
and she has ties to

1973
02:15:00,347 --> 02:15:03,807
God, who the hell is it? Peter Thiel or something?

1974
02:15:04,007 --> 02:15:04,967
I mean, there's just

1975
02:15:04,967 --> 02:15:07,307
there's some strange things

1976
02:15:07,307 --> 02:15:10,707
so I'm wondering if Ivanka didn't get married off

1977
02:15:10,707 --> 02:15:11,867
to form an alliance

1978
02:15:11,867 --> 02:15:15,307
and that

1979
02:15:15,307 --> 02:15:33,443
maybe the world always been this way We had this delusion And while we were vastly vastly economically superior post War II what a perfect setup to become absolute dominant empire

1980
02:15:36,083 --> 02:15:41,483
We could afford to just produce our way past the problems.

1981
02:15:42,703 --> 02:15:43,223
Yeah.

1982
02:15:43,223 --> 02:15:48,523
and you could you know you'd go to the gas station as a kid and three guys would come out and

1983
02:15:48,523 --> 02:15:52,723
service your car while they filled your gas tank right that doesn't happen anymore

1984
02:15:52,723 --> 02:15:59,583
now now you do your own tank unless you're in new jersey unless you're in new jersey yeah i never

1985
02:15:59,583 --> 02:16:04,343
quite is that a is that a lobby or something what is that i don't know i don't know

1986
02:16:04,343 --> 02:16:07,243
So that's a low level job struggle.

1987
02:16:07,243 --> 02:16:07,763
I've always wondered about that.

1988
02:16:08,423 --> 02:16:08,603
Yeah.

1989
02:16:09,563 --> 02:16:12,663
So it feels to me like we are going to,

1990
02:16:13,243 --> 02:16:15,783
I don't think it's end of empire necessarily,

1991
02:16:16,143 --> 02:16:18,203
but it is certainly going to be like,

1992
02:16:18,863 --> 02:16:20,123
you know,

1993
02:16:20,163 --> 02:16:24,603
when the Roman empire moved to Constantinople or something like that.

1994
02:16:24,703 --> 02:16:24,843
Right.

1995
02:16:25,003 --> 02:16:25,183
I mean,

1996
02:16:25,223 --> 02:16:27,763
that's one of the theories that's been thrown around is like,

1997
02:16:27,763 --> 02:16:31,343
maybe we're leaving the era of Republic and into true empire.

1998
02:16:31,563 --> 02:16:32,043
Oh,

1999
02:16:32,443 --> 02:16:32,683
right.

2000
02:16:32,683 --> 02:16:39,403
it's like egregious the one thing trump seems to be doing with his babbling about greenland

2001
02:16:39,403 --> 02:16:44,783
which he was the fifth president to talk about taking greenland so that was not just trump

2002
02:16:44,783 --> 02:16:55,103
gulf of america venezuela it's monroe doctrine right so if if trump has gotten the memo that

2003
02:16:55,103 --> 02:17:01,523
look we're in a multipolar world which is not good news for us but it's one of those you play

2004
02:17:01,523 --> 02:17:10,523
the hand you're dealt right say okay how do we not end up becoming real losers you set up your

2005
02:17:10,523 --> 02:17:17,763
little technate in the western hemisphere and say this is ours stay away i was all for that

2006
02:17:17,763 --> 02:17:21,643
and that's why yeah i don't have a problem with that at all i want i want to bring our carriers

2007
02:17:21,643 --> 02:17:26,883
home i want to i want to tell europe to defend itself and and quit by the way picking a nuclear

2008
02:17:26,883 --> 02:17:34,403
holocaust fight with russia let's stop let's start there um so now that that to me is there's

2009
02:17:34,403 --> 02:17:37,623
a savviness to it and by the way why should denmark get greenland

2010
02:17:37,623 --> 02:17:45,543
why do they have greenland i don't know the history there that's some historical thing

2011
02:17:45,543 --> 02:17:51,543
some guy named sven something or other you know some guy you ever see that the the vikings

2012
02:17:51,543 --> 02:17:53,083
series.

2013
02:17:54,263 --> 02:17:56,603
It's really good on the History Channel.

2014
02:17:57,303 --> 02:17:58,803
Oh, it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal.

2015
02:17:58,963 --> 02:17:59,963
Ragnar Lothbrok.

2016
02:18:00,163 --> 02:18:02,143
And at one point,

2017
02:18:03,043 --> 02:18:04,403
I'm so rambling.

2018
02:18:05,743 --> 02:18:06,623
At one point,

2019
02:18:08,303 --> 02:18:08,763
Floki,

2020
02:18:09,403 --> 02:18:10,903
a real guy from the past,

2021
02:18:11,823 --> 02:18:12,743
they're on Iceland.

2022
02:18:12,863 --> 02:18:14,503
They go to Iceland and they get told

2023
02:18:14,503 --> 02:18:17,163
it's really a wonderful

2024
02:18:17,163 --> 02:18:18,943
place. It's just this rock.

2025
02:18:19,423 --> 02:18:20,383
It's a rock

2026
02:18:20,383 --> 02:18:25,343
with steam spewing out of crevices and stuff, right?

2027
02:18:25,983 --> 02:18:28,663
But at one point, Floki takes off on his own,

2028
02:18:28,763 --> 02:18:30,723
and he goes deep into this cave,

2029
02:18:31,063 --> 02:18:35,623
and there is a Christian cross.

2030
02:18:37,663 --> 02:18:39,543
And there's actually historical evidence

2031
02:18:39,543 --> 02:18:40,643
that that could be true,

2032
02:18:40,843 --> 02:18:43,243
that the Christian missionaries got to Iceland first.

2033
02:18:45,523 --> 02:18:46,043
Yeah.

2034
02:18:46,943 --> 02:18:50,363
So how any of this works, I don't know.

2035
02:18:50,383 --> 02:18:54,703
But it wouldn't be the first time that the border's changed.

2036
02:18:55,483 --> 02:18:55,563
No.

2037
02:18:56,343 --> 02:18:56,543
No.

2038
02:18:57,763 --> 02:18:58,163
Canada.

2039
02:18:59,023 --> 02:18:59,723
Bringing Canada.

2040
02:18:59,903 --> 02:19:01,663
We need all that oil they need to be saved from.

2041
02:19:01,783 --> 02:19:02,743
That could get tricky.

2042
02:19:03,183 --> 02:19:04,023
That could get tricky.

2043
02:19:05,503 --> 02:19:05,983
How about that?

2044
02:19:06,303 --> 02:19:07,603
Canada's pretty divided.

2045
02:19:07,883 --> 02:19:09,023
Canada's pretty divided.

2046
02:19:09,483 --> 02:19:10,903
But what are your thoughts on Trudeau?

2047
02:19:11,043 --> 02:19:15,263
Just like destroying the country, becoming the boyfriend of a cop singer?

2048
02:19:15,263 --> 02:19:17,043
Well, Pierre Trudeau is a perv.

2049
02:19:17,043 --> 02:19:20,083
I think Trudeau is Castro's son.

2050
02:19:20,383 --> 02:19:23,163
i did the cuban nipple crisis is real

2051
02:19:23,163 --> 02:19:30,883
that's a funny story but you look at you look at trudeau and you look at cassero when he's young

2052
02:19:30,883 --> 02:19:38,343
you go oh boy there's a paternity test needed for that one um and and and there's this one

2053
02:19:38,343 --> 02:19:45,543
there's this one picture of of marie trudeau is that her name pierre's wife who apparently was a

2054
02:19:45,543 --> 02:19:54,443
floozy. I shouldn't say that that way. I support floozies. But she's sitting there with Castro and

2055
02:19:54,443 --> 02:20:01,023
he's cutting a cake or something. First of all, there's a photo of her. Castro's holding Justin.

2056
02:20:02,083 --> 02:20:08,403
Castro's holding Justin with Pierre and Marie or whatever her name is. And she's looking at Castro

2057
02:20:08,403 --> 02:20:11,523
in the most adoring look as in like, oh no,

2058
02:20:12,223 --> 02:20:15,863
that's the father of her child right there.

2059
02:20:16,243 --> 02:20:20,043
But then there's a picture of her where Castro's cutting a piece of cake or something

2060
02:20:20,043 --> 02:20:23,243
and she's got his hand on his chest.

2061
02:20:24,963 --> 02:20:28,123
Now, anyone knows who's been through middle school

2062
02:20:28,123 --> 02:20:32,383
and high school is that once the chick puts

2063
02:20:32,383 --> 02:20:42,619
her hand on your chest you going places that is inside the personal space On your back a little sketchy

2064
02:20:42,819 --> 02:20:44,899
The chest, no, you're in good shape.

2065
02:20:44,979 --> 02:20:45,659
You're good to go.

2066
02:20:46,599 --> 02:20:54,639
And so I do think a DNA test, I don't know if I, I wouldn't choose that as my first choice.

2067
02:20:54,639 --> 02:21:01,159
I think I'd choose Macron's wife to get a DNA test first.

2068
02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:09,259
Because that one would tell us whether or not she's a he and whether he is Emmanuel Macron's father.

2069
02:21:09,819 --> 02:21:12,179
That's the one that I want the answer to.

2070
02:21:12,839 --> 02:21:15,359
Is Macron married to his father?

2071
02:21:16,719 --> 02:21:18,099
That's a rabbit hole.

2072
02:21:19,099 --> 02:21:23,639
That one would be a real National Enquirer headline right there.

2073
02:21:24,199 --> 02:21:24,419
Yeah.

2074
02:21:25,879 --> 02:21:29,899
Do we have any effect on it?

2075
02:21:30,079 --> 02:21:30,759
If that's true.

2076
02:21:32,019 --> 02:21:32,459
Who knows?

2077
02:21:32,479 --> 02:21:33,939
Well, I think he's a dude.

2078
02:21:34,679 --> 02:21:34,839
Yeah.

2079
02:21:36,079 --> 02:21:40,679
So, and the royal families in Europe have real problems.

2080
02:21:40,839 --> 02:21:46,639
So I guess the King Charles, he had four influential guys in his life.

2081
02:21:46,739 --> 02:21:48,159
All of them were pedophiles.

2082
02:21:49,039 --> 02:21:49,639
All of them.

2083
02:21:50,179 --> 02:21:54,239
The four guys, Mountbatten, there's a couple in the middle I can't quite remember.

2084
02:21:54,679 --> 02:21:56,119
And then at the end, Jimmy Saville.

2085
02:21:56,679 --> 02:21:56,999
Saville?

2086
02:21:57,079 --> 02:21:57,199
Yeah.

2087
02:21:59,299 --> 02:22:01,339
A true demon.

2088
02:22:02,479 --> 02:22:06,599
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The most prolific pedophile in history, arguably.

2089
02:22:08,259 --> 02:22:13,779
Although that's probably a reach of a statement, but he certainly was pedophile to the stars.

2090
02:22:14,599 --> 02:22:22,199
And I think the royal families in Europe have a fundamental problem.

2091
02:22:22,259 --> 02:22:25,019
I was on a Zoom call with Archbishop Carlo Vigano.

2092
02:22:26,259 --> 02:22:28,139
That's a pretty cool Zoom call to be on.

2093
02:22:28,419 --> 02:22:31,399
Number three at the Vatican. I didn't know the Vatican had writings.

2094
02:22:31,399 --> 02:22:36,879
so that could be wrong but he had the pope's ear and he's the guy who ratted out the vatican

2095
02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:44,379
for covering up pedophilia which doesn't shock me during covid too right yeah i was starting

2096
02:22:44,379 --> 02:22:50,099
during covid doesn't shock me there's pedophilia among priests what would shock me is if the

2097
02:22:50,099 --> 02:22:54,679
vatican was involved in child trafficking not shock me that's the real story i think is

2098
02:22:54,679 --> 02:22:59,599
i haven't found evidence of that but i i think i i will not be shocked if i do

2099
02:22:59,599 --> 02:23:02,019
but

2100
02:23:02,019 --> 02:23:04,419
Vigano in the Zoom call

2101
02:23:04,419 --> 02:23:06,039
comes right out of the gate

2102
02:23:06,039 --> 02:23:08,319
there's about 20 of us on the Zoom call

2103
02:23:08,319 --> 02:23:09,879
with him and says

2104
02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:12,399
all of the leaders in Europe

2105
02:23:12,399 --> 02:23:13,259
are pedophiles

2106
02:23:13,259 --> 02:23:16,379
and then he says

2107
02:23:16,379 --> 02:23:18,539
he actually

2108
02:23:18,539 --> 02:23:20,479
said that Macron

2109
02:23:20,479 --> 02:23:22,079
is married to a dude

2110
02:23:22,079 --> 02:23:24,539
and then he says Obama

2111
02:23:24,539 --> 02:23:25,919
is married to a dude

2112
02:23:25,919 --> 02:23:28,559
he didn't say dude but that's my language

2113
02:23:28,559 --> 02:23:36,719
and then he went public with that so that i that might have been not official yet but he he wrote

2114
02:23:36,719 --> 02:23:45,159
that publicly and what did they do to him they excommunicated him supposedly yeah that's sending

2115
02:23:45,159 --> 02:23:51,919
him to hell so so um well like and that's like as a as a catholic it's like is that an excommunicable

2116
02:23:51,919 --> 02:23:57,979
i guess making those claims something that warrants excommunication i don't think so

2117
02:23:57,979 --> 02:24:06,299
shouldn't be but you know you know there's there's vatican the the the religion vatican tied to the

2118
02:24:06,299 --> 02:24:11,639
religion there's the the the catholic church the religion and there's catholic church the financial

2119
02:24:11,639 --> 02:24:19,079
entity and they're very different things right the political financial entity and and heaven

2120
02:24:19,079 --> 02:24:25,659
only knows the net worth of vatican of the vatican and you've seen the snake room at the vatican

2121
02:24:25,659 --> 02:24:32,099
yeah for the three people listening here search snake room vatican and look at the snake room

2122
02:24:32,099 --> 02:24:38,959
it's it's an altar right so no no it's an entire auditorium it's a 20 000 person auditorium

2123
02:24:38,959 --> 02:24:44,019
yeah but it's got like the crucifix in the background it's like at the oh it's got all

2124
02:24:44,019 --> 02:24:47,959
sorts of weird shit in the background but the entire auditorium looks like this head of a snake

2125
02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:50,739
and it's just

2126
02:24:50,739 --> 02:24:52,779
I go why? I go is that Adam and Eve

2127
02:24:52,779 --> 02:24:53,179
maybe?

2128
02:24:55,399 --> 02:24:56,719
I just don't know

2129
02:24:56,719 --> 02:24:57,619
I've wondered if

2130
02:24:57,619 --> 02:25:00,239
the good versus evil

2131
02:25:00,239 --> 02:25:02,719
if the Vatican actually caters to both

2132
02:25:02,719 --> 02:25:05,979
I mean there's many

2133
02:25:05,979 --> 02:25:08,439
there's hardcore orthodox Catholics who think

2134
02:25:08,439 --> 02:25:10,479
like the Vatican after Vatican II

2135
02:25:10,479 --> 02:25:12,139
the church

2136
02:25:12,139 --> 02:25:12,439
the

2137
02:25:12,439 --> 02:25:16,279
political side of it was taken over by the

2138
02:25:16,279 --> 02:25:16,999
Luciferians

2139
02:25:16,999 --> 02:25:22,379
and is completely antithetical to what we're supposed to be doing as Christians.

2140
02:25:22,959 --> 02:25:25,899
I have read so much shit trying to understand this stuff.

2141
02:25:25,999 --> 02:25:28,059
I'm reading a book right now about cults,

2142
02:25:28,079 --> 02:25:31,059
and the one thing it appears to absolutely not be willing to do

2143
02:25:31,059 --> 02:25:35,419
is in any way connect the cults to official sources,

2144
02:25:35,919 --> 02:25:37,699
which is why I read the book.

2145
02:25:37,699 --> 02:25:42,059
I don't need to read about some pervy guy that's of no interest to me,

2146
02:25:42,139 --> 02:25:46,859
but a pervy guy who was trained by Jolly West, then I care.

2147
02:25:46,999 --> 02:25:49,939
They even went through Charles

2148
02:25:49,976 --> 02:25:58,056
Manson made no allusions whatsoever to him being tied to the CIA, which therefore I said, OK, so you guys blew it.

2149
02:26:00,056 --> 02:26:07,556
Jim Jones is Jim Jones, Reverend Jim Jones, who is very prominent in Republican circles for a long time.

2150
02:26:10,056 --> 02:26:15,136
So there's there the world appears to be a battle of good and evil.

2151
02:26:15,136 --> 02:26:21,356
i'm not a religious guy but when you use the term good and evil you're this close to getting

2152
02:26:21,356 --> 02:26:27,056
religious right i mean it's really it's hard to not not say god good versus evil

2153
02:26:27,056 --> 02:26:33,836
that's that sure sounds like something i hear on a sunday morning yeah i believe in it

2154
02:26:33,836 --> 02:26:39,996
yeah i think there's i think that's true i'm not sure that it's an inherent

2155
02:26:39,996 --> 02:26:45,996
aura in the world, but it's certainly there are people who are good and people who are evil.

2156
02:26:46,776 --> 02:26:51,916
Yeah. I like to think that you're one of the good guys, having gotten to know you over the years.

2157
02:26:52,076 --> 02:26:58,536
Well, if I'm not, I'm phenomenal, I think, at covering it. Now, there's still people who think

2158
02:26:58,536 --> 02:27:03,056
I'm a limited hangout of some kind. Really? I'm getting called spooked too these days.

2159
02:27:03,056 --> 02:27:06,596
I wish I could pay for this. Yeah, you get enough followers, you get immediately.

2160
02:27:06,596 --> 02:27:08,036
Oh, you're getting called on that?

2161
02:27:08,496 --> 02:27:08,916
Oh, yeah.

2162
02:27:09,296 --> 02:27:10,956
Particularly within Bitcoin, they should come.

2163
02:27:11,496 --> 02:27:13,176
I'm some corrupted, corrupted actor.

2164
02:27:13,196 --> 02:27:14,356
You're frozen right now.

2165
02:27:15,196 --> 02:27:15,676
Am I frozen?

2166
02:27:16,316 --> 02:27:16,696
Am I good?

2167
02:27:19,396 --> 02:27:20,876
You're frozen completely.

2168
02:27:22,936 --> 02:27:23,936
Oh, there you go.

2169
02:27:26,216 --> 02:27:27,676
You're digitizing now.

2170
02:27:33,476 --> 02:27:33,956
Hello?

2171
02:27:34,336 --> 02:27:35,316
You can see me.

2172
02:27:35,316 --> 02:27:36,156
You're not moving.

2173
02:27:36,596 --> 02:27:39,496
you're doing a Mitch McConnell now.

2174
02:27:39,736 --> 02:27:40,316
God damn it.

2175
02:27:40,436 --> 02:27:42,016
You're frozen at the microphone.

2176
02:27:42,656 --> 02:27:43,156
There we go.

2177
02:27:43,476 --> 02:27:43,936
I'm back.

2178
02:27:44,156 --> 02:27:44,596
There you go.

2179
02:27:45,156 --> 02:27:46,256
Internet disconnection there.

2180
02:27:46,776 --> 02:27:47,896
No, you're frozen still.

2181
02:27:48,656 --> 02:27:49,816
Am I back?

2182
02:27:50,856 --> 02:27:53,216
This would be funny to watch to see how it comes in.

2183
02:27:55,016 --> 02:27:55,856
I think I'm back.

2184
02:27:56,656 --> 02:27:57,636
You're moving a little bit.

2185
02:27:57,836 --> 02:27:58,856
You're moving a little bit.

2186
02:27:58,856 --> 02:27:59,656
You were frozen.

2187
02:27:59,856 --> 02:28:00,376
You were doing it.

2188
02:28:00,576 --> 02:28:02,076
As I said, in case you couldn't hear me,

2189
02:28:02,156 --> 02:28:04,096
you were doing a Mitch McConnell at the microphone.

2190
02:28:04,096 --> 02:28:06,716
Oh, we didn't get to expand on that.

2191
02:28:06,776 --> 02:28:07,636
What's his wife's deal?

2192
02:28:07,956 --> 02:28:09,276
Is she a Chinese actor?

2193
02:28:09,576 --> 02:28:10,416
Remember her sister?

2194
02:28:10,836 --> 02:28:11,316
Probably.

2195
02:28:11,696 --> 02:28:13,136
Died in the Tesla on their property?

2196
02:28:14,936 --> 02:28:20,916
Well, which is the one whose sister's sister,

2197
02:28:21,256 --> 02:28:24,936
who's deeply tied to the Chinese Communist Party?

2198
02:28:25,556 --> 02:28:27,536
Is that Mitch's or is that Swalwell?

2199
02:28:28,876 --> 02:28:30,416
Swalwell was hooking up with it.

2200
02:28:30,416 --> 02:28:32,416
The Democrats have got to get their shit together.

2201
02:28:32,416 --> 02:28:34,996
We need a better team on the field

2202
02:28:34,996 --> 02:28:37,336
Yeah, I mean both sides too

2203
02:28:37,336 --> 02:28:39,296
A spy

2204
02:28:39,296 --> 02:28:40,936
Yeah

2205
02:28:40,936 --> 02:28:42,276
You're frozen again

2206
02:28:42,276 --> 02:28:44,476
I know, it's god damn it

2207
02:28:44,476 --> 02:28:47,096
You gotta fire Logan, get someone who knows how to run this operation

2208
02:28:47,096 --> 02:28:49,416
Logan, can you hear me?

2209
02:28:53,876 --> 02:28:54,676
There we go

2210
02:28:54,676 --> 02:28:57,676
It's my internet connection

2211
02:28:57,676 --> 02:28:58,336
It is

2212
02:28:58,336 --> 02:29:00,976
A swallowing spy

2213
02:29:00,976 --> 02:29:05,396
Is Logan there with you, or is he totally some other site?

2214
02:29:05,916 --> 02:29:09,836
He's in another part of the country.

2215
02:29:11,356 --> 02:29:13,576
He just shows up with me with better internet.

2216
02:29:15,016 --> 02:29:17,116
How many people do you have on staff?

2217
02:29:17,936 --> 02:29:18,996
There's five of us.

2218
02:29:18,996 --> 02:29:20,296
On your podcasting staff?

2219
02:29:21,316 --> 02:29:23,116
Really, just on the podcast.

2220
02:29:23,496 --> 02:29:26,816
There's probably three dedicated to the podcast, myself included.

2221
02:29:27,616 --> 02:29:30,636
Give me an estimate of what someone makes.

2222
02:29:30,636 --> 02:29:31,916
Let's say you're a podcaster.

2223
02:29:32,096 --> 02:29:34,975
I'm going to do a podcast in a week with Julian Dory.

2224
02:29:36,815 --> 02:29:37,576
Jimmy Dory?

2225
02:29:37,576 --> 02:29:41,056
That's for our Julian Dory.

2226
02:29:42,056 --> 02:29:43,115
Not Jimmy Dory.

2227
02:29:43,436 --> 02:29:43,615
No.

2228
02:29:44,776 --> 02:29:45,115
Julian Dory.

2229
02:29:45,115 --> 02:29:47,035
Is he the guy in Jersey City?

2230
02:29:48,496 --> 02:29:49,056
Yeah.

2231
02:29:49,315 --> 02:29:50,876
He's a very Jersey boy.

2232
02:29:50,975 --> 02:29:52,556
He's got a real Jersey delivery.

2233
02:29:53,096 --> 02:29:53,315
Yeah.

2234
02:29:53,596 --> 02:30:00,315
And he did the best four-hour interview of Joe Kent.

2235
02:30:00,316 --> 02:30:05,976
I did a one-hour interview with Joe Kent in a complete abortion, in my opinion,

2236
02:30:06,076 --> 02:30:07,416
because it wasn't handled right.

2237
02:30:08,196 --> 02:30:12,256
But Julian Dory did this four-hour interview with Joe Kent.

2238
02:30:12,376 --> 02:30:19,256
Not only did he get Joe Kent to really hit every topic, but Julian, you're frozen again.

2239
02:30:19,895 --> 02:30:20,216
Maybe.

2240
02:30:21,895 --> 02:30:26,895
Julian could stay with him the whole way.

2241
02:30:27,675 --> 02:30:28,736
It was really extraordinary.

2242
02:30:28,736 --> 02:30:30,195
So I post it.

2243
02:30:30,295 --> 02:30:33,975
So I'm supposed to do a podcast with Julian, a three-way with Julian, about a week.

2244
02:30:34,716 --> 02:30:36,615
I want to find out his backstory.

2245
02:30:37,175 --> 02:30:38,836
Are you going to have a little bit of a...

2246
02:30:38,836 --> 02:30:39,535
Are you going in person?

2247
02:30:40,915 --> 02:30:41,315
No.

2248
02:30:41,955 --> 02:30:42,195
No.

2249
02:30:42,675 --> 02:30:43,815
Actually, he's an invite.

2250
02:30:44,095 --> 02:30:44,915
We're both invites.

2251
02:30:45,056 --> 02:30:45,936
We're doing it with Ferris.

2252
02:30:46,876 --> 02:30:47,276
Oh, nice.

2253
02:30:48,475 --> 02:30:53,936
But so let's say someone averages 100,000 eyeballs on YouTube.

2254
02:30:53,936 --> 02:31:06,150
You know and have some commercials you know have some ads probably and stuff like what what that guy gonna make a year maybe he doing it per episode if he doing like two episodes per

2255
02:31:06,150 --> 02:31:16,110
week that's eight a month close to a million views going right like 20 20 dollars per thousand views

2256
02:31:16,110 --> 02:31:23,990
is the going right um for some ads like a thousand views like so when someone brings me on and we

2257
02:31:23,990 --> 02:31:26,250
We get 5,000 views.

2258
02:31:26,330 --> 02:31:26,890
We're making $100?

2259
02:31:28,570 --> 02:31:29,350
Around there.

2260
02:31:29,530 --> 02:31:30,590
I think on YouTube, maybe.

2261
02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:33,770
And if you're that low a level of podcaster,

2262
02:31:33,990 --> 02:31:38,050
are you still making that $20 per 1,000 views?

2263
02:31:38,970 --> 02:31:40,630
Yeah, on YouTube at least.

2264
02:31:41,710 --> 02:31:45,670
So YouTube, you don't have to get above some massive threshold

2265
02:31:45,670 --> 02:31:46,790
to start getting paid?

2266
02:31:47,470 --> 02:31:48,530
No, no.

2267
02:31:48,530 --> 02:31:52,230
I think you have to have over 3,000 subscribers,

2268
02:31:52,450 --> 02:31:53,630
and then you can begin monetizing.

2269
02:31:53,630 --> 02:31:59,750
and have had and put a certain amount of videos on but yeah that's okay yeah twenty dollars per

2270
02:31:59,750 --> 02:32:06,530
thousand i can't remember that number um i'm paid what i'm worth every penny

2271
02:32:06,530 --> 02:32:15,090
i have as far as i know the only money i've ever made was um was bob moriarty

2272
02:32:15,090 --> 02:32:22,990
did the legwork heavy legwork paid for the editor to publish my my all my year reviews

2273
02:32:22,990 --> 02:32:29,010
which turned out to be 17 of them, and uploaded them to Amazon.

2274
02:32:30,610 --> 02:32:35,530
And I think I made about $5,000 off all the sales of those.

2275
02:32:36,530 --> 02:32:39,010
The funny part was I had to write a dean's report,

2276
02:32:39,110 --> 02:32:42,950
and I had wrapped up my research group, and I'm thinking,

2277
02:32:43,230 --> 02:32:44,610
well, I didn't do shit, right?

2278
02:32:44,630 --> 02:32:46,910
So I taught these two courses, but I didn't do shit.

2279
02:32:47,410 --> 02:32:49,970
And then I thought about it, I go, wait a minute.

2280
02:32:49,970 --> 02:32:52,090
I published 17 books this year.

2281
02:32:52,990 --> 02:33:01,710
and it was it was it was crudely estimated at about um the total was something like

2282
02:33:01,710 --> 02:33:10,170
4 500 pages and that year i had to go through them all and fix them and fix the graphics and

2283
02:33:10,170 --> 02:33:17,610
do it was a pain in the ass but we we got all we got from 2009 to 2025 all out last year

2284
02:33:17,610 --> 02:33:24,190
that's insane and it's on amazon and if anyone's listening i know there's three or four of you left

2285
02:33:24,190 --> 02:33:28,930
do you get paid based on clicks or do you get paid on total watch time do they have an algorithm

2286
02:33:28,930 --> 02:33:34,910
uh yeah it would have to be watch time right because they insert the ads you would think

2287
02:33:34,910 --> 02:33:39,610
yeah in certain parts of the show depending on whether you're youtube preview or not

2288
02:33:39,610 --> 02:33:45,110
um yeah we have but we have much more we have the the newsletter

2289
02:33:45,110 --> 02:33:52,750
we do a bunch more stuff as well here oh i i know that i yeah it's just that part i don't

2290
02:33:52,750 --> 02:33:57,110
understand at all so i don't need to know anything but i was just wondering about the

2291
02:33:57,110 --> 02:34:02,770
the click count i'm wondering why some guy bothers to bring me on to get 2000

2292
02:34:02,770 --> 02:34:08,910
um i mean some people are in for the love of the game i didn't get in well there are those guys

2293
02:34:08,910 --> 02:34:17,790
there are those guys um and um and just have a chat as i like to say we're just chatting and if

2294
02:34:17,790 --> 02:34:24,030
you want to record it and upload it that's fine too um it's easy to forget it's getting uploaded

2295
02:34:24,030 --> 02:34:29,770
one time i was watching candace owens i think she was on rogan and she said something she said well

2296
02:34:29,770 --> 02:34:33,090
you probably wouldn't want to say that on the internet and rogan said you just did

2297
02:34:33,090 --> 02:34:44,570
oh well keep an eye on keep an eye on this charlie kurtz story this tyler robin story i think there's

2298
02:34:44,570 --> 02:34:49,170
much bigger geopolitical implications than a lot of people are giving it credit well i did notice

2299
02:34:49,170 --> 02:34:55,070
like the big con come out and like sort of like take the the party line stripped and

2300
02:34:55,070 --> 02:35:01,290
like blast it out at the same time people who have done that i go i thought you're one of the

2301
02:35:01,290 --> 02:35:06,670
good guys and now you're not looking like one of the good guys to me i i don't know there's a lot

2302
02:35:06,670 --> 02:35:12,390
of things i don't understand what i do know is it's so fucked up that if you're saying he's guilty

2303
02:35:12,390 --> 02:35:19,350
overwhelming evidence you you are lying if you want to say i don't know what's going on it's

2304
02:35:19,350 --> 02:35:24,770
fucked up but i don't know the answer you're not lying you're truthful that's where i am i have no

2305
02:35:24,770 --> 02:35:31,890
idea right but overwhelming evidence is you know those those compilations they do where they show

2306
02:35:31,890 --> 02:35:37,850
you know 20 people all saying exactly the same thing on the news that's just overwhelming this

2307
02:35:37,850 --> 02:35:43,010
is dangerous for our democracy yeah it's a danger to our democracy and and and uh

2308
02:35:43,010 --> 02:35:53,930
the irony of that one is particularly good but um i don't know life goes on i i sometimes wonder

2309
02:35:53,930 --> 02:36:00,570
why I do any of this, but I'm retired now, essentially, operationally retired. I'm still

2310
02:36:00,570 --> 02:36:14,604
on payroll They haven shaken me off their payroll I did so much for the university over the 45 years If I hang on payroll for another year I think they can suck it up Yeah Well I thank you for continuing to do it

2311
02:36:14,904 --> 02:36:18,864
I think the fact that you do stuff like this is great.

2312
02:36:18,984 --> 02:36:19,424
I love it.

2313
02:36:19,844 --> 02:36:21,464
I'm bored to talk.

2314
02:36:22,084 --> 02:36:22,684
I'm bored to talk.

2315
02:36:22,964 --> 02:36:23,944
Did you pee in a coffee?

2316
02:36:24,744 --> 02:36:25,744
No, no.

2317
02:36:25,744 --> 02:36:31,624
I had most of my prostate taken out about a year or so ago.

2318
02:36:31,624 --> 02:36:33,884
and as I said

2319
02:36:33,884 --> 02:36:35,424
written

2320
02:36:35,424 --> 02:36:38,044
I said I can get an

2321
02:36:38,044 --> 02:36:38,924
8 foot arc

2322
02:36:38,924 --> 02:36:42,284
and I can put out 14 ounces

2323
02:36:42,284 --> 02:36:43,944
which

2324
02:36:43,944 --> 02:36:44,784
I was putting out

2325
02:36:44,784 --> 02:36:47,344
a shot glass at a pop

2326
02:36:47,344 --> 02:36:50,064
an inch and a half bladder stone

2327
02:36:50,064 --> 02:36:52,364
and it formed

2328
02:36:52,364 --> 02:36:54,104
because my prostate had gotten

2329
02:36:54,104 --> 02:36:56,084
too big and so the guy

2330
02:36:56,084 --> 02:36:57,344
said you should have it taken out

2331
02:36:57,344 --> 02:37:00,164
so I did and I said 8 foot arc

2332
02:37:00,164 --> 02:37:04,744
14 ounces, I said, those are two different experiments. I'm not that good.

2333
02:37:08,204 --> 02:37:15,244
But now, next thing I'll probably get diabetic or something and then have to piss even more.

2334
02:37:15,244 --> 02:37:26,924
But no, I can get through a whole two-hour, three-hour podcast with consuming beverage and not have to drain the lizard.

2335
02:37:27,784 --> 02:37:28,324
That's good to know.

2336
02:37:28,324 --> 02:37:33,264
well hopefully uh next time we try to get rudy to do this he doesn't call in on a phone

2337
02:37:33,264 --> 02:37:38,264
and we can uh yeah was was he on a phone is that what he was doing yes i think so

2338
02:37:38,264 --> 02:37:45,884
yeah he's got such wisdom and that throaty voice of his and stuff you you really you really get a

2339
02:37:45,884 --> 02:37:52,424
sense of sincerity actually for me that um i remember years ago someone said who else should

2340
02:37:52,424 --> 02:37:54,784
I follow on Twitter to Rudy.

2341
02:37:55,844 --> 02:37:56,864
And he named three people.

2342
02:37:57,004 --> 02:37:57,764
I was one of them.

2343
02:37:57,884 --> 02:38:00,364
I go, so there is an affinity here.

2344
02:38:00,524 --> 02:38:01,484
I thought it was just me.

2345
02:38:01,684 --> 02:38:02,704
Maybe I had a Rudy.

2346
02:38:03,244 --> 02:38:08,024
My favorite treat of Rudy's, and that's when I first really spotted him.

2347
02:38:08,024 --> 02:38:13,864
I started studying his tweets when he said, he says, it's not fake.

2348
02:38:14,004 --> 02:38:17,024
It's not like the Loch Ness Monster or North Dakota.

2349
02:38:18,844 --> 02:38:22,264
And I go, this guy is funny.

2350
02:38:22,424 --> 02:38:25,104
I mean, that is some serious funny.

2351
02:38:26,624 --> 02:38:28,664
And so I started watching his style,

2352
02:38:28,784 --> 02:38:33,004
sort of like studying how Eddie Prinz or the comedians,

2353
02:38:33,064 --> 02:38:34,104
how the great comedians do it.

2354
02:38:34,144 --> 02:38:36,284
I started watching Rudy and said, how does he do it?

2355
02:38:37,564 --> 02:38:41,744
He has this great sarcasm about him.

2356
02:38:42,204 --> 02:38:44,184
It's a great way of trolling the CNBC.

2357
02:38:44,524 --> 02:38:44,744
He picks fights.

2358
02:38:45,584 --> 02:38:47,344
He's not afraid to pick fights.

2359
02:38:47,344 --> 02:38:49,304
He doesn't.

2360
02:38:49,484 --> 02:38:51,224
You know how journalists become captured

2361
02:38:51,224 --> 02:38:54,004
when the people they're writing about they get too close to.

2362
02:38:56,004 --> 02:38:57,924
Rudy doesn't suffer from that at all.

2363
02:38:58,704 --> 02:39:01,744
So I worry about Megyn Kelly being on the wrong team.

2364
02:39:02,984 --> 02:39:04,724
But I also know I'm a loser.

2365
02:39:05,284 --> 02:39:07,044
She was like, you know, in Twitter bingo,

2366
02:39:07,144 --> 02:39:11,544
getting followed by Megyn Kelly was one of those, oh, wow, that's cool.

2367
02:39:12,244 --> 02:39:16,284
That's a grand slam Twitter follow, right?

2368
02:39:17,344 --> 02:39:17,784
Yeah.

2369
02:39:18,344 --> 02:39:19,744
No, and that's one thing you have to worry about, too,

2370
02:39:19,824 --> 02:39:21,084
is calling everybody a spook.

2371
02:39:21,224 --> 02:39:23,064
And like I was saying earlier, before my internet went out,

2372
02:39:23,124 --> 02:39:24,604
people were like, you're a spook, Marty.

2373
02:39:24,684 --> 02:39:27,404
I'm like, goddammit, I'm just doing this.

2374
02:39:27,404 --> 02:39:29,584
Yeah, well, my son works for the CFR,

2375
02:39:29,724 --> 02:39:32,004
so I get called a spook all the time for that.

2376
02:39:32,564 --> 02:39:32,684
Yeah.

2377
02:39:33,004 --> 02:39:38,884
And maybe he is a spook, but he's good at keeping a secret,

2378
02:39:39,024 --> 02:39:43,504
because I sure as hell, you know, he doesn't tell me shit.

2379
02:39:43,604 --> 02:39:45,064
Of course, on the other hand, you know,

2380
02:39:45,864 --> 02:39:47,364
what would I do with that information?

2381
02:39:47,524 --> 02:39:49,444
I'd probably go spew it on a podcast.

2382
02:39:49,444 --> 02:39:55,224
Yeah, so he's smart not to let me in on the secrets that he knows.

2383
02:39:55,584 --> 02:39:57,924
But he is useful.

2384
02:39:58,064 --> 02:39:59,184
I say, what's the hot topic?

2385
02:39:59,324 --> 02:40:02,324
And you'd be surprised sometimes when he tells you the hot topic.

2386
02:40:02,424 --> 02:40:03,824
I said, isn't this a hot topic?

2387
02:40:03,964 --> 02:40:06,224
Oh, no, there's no discussion of that whatsoever.

2388
02:40:08,444 --> 02:40:11,584
And so there are things we think are important.

2389
02:40:12,824 --> 02:40:17,344
Well, that gets into the idea, like, are they're actually competent people running the show?

2390
02:40:17,504 --> 02:40:18,924
Or is it just completely random?

2391
02:40:19,444 --> 02:40:24,004
Well, he also says he and maybe he's lying to me.

2392
02:40:24,524 --> 02:40:28,604
You know, I raised him through his teenage years, so I know he has lied to me.

2393
02:40:31,084 --> 02:40:33,884
You'll really enjoy that phase when your kids are teenagers.

2394
02:40:34,324 --> 02:40:35,944
Oh, they lie like teenagers.

2395
02:40:35,944 --> 02:40:36,744
I'll tell you.

2396
02:40:36,944 --> 02:40:38,704
They'll just they'll just their lips are moving.

2397
02:40:38,824 --> 02:40:39,724
They're lying to you.

2398
02:40:40,084 --> 02:40:42,384
And they'll treat you like shit, too.

2399
02:40:42,384 --> 02:40:50,884
but um but he's he says the council really doesn't have the agenda that people think they have

2400
02:40:50,884 --> 02:40:54,664
he said their agenda really is to get important people talking

2401
02:40:54,664 --> 02:41:02,444
getting them in the same room and and by doing that you know keeping the world a little bit of

2402
02:41:02,444 --> 02:41:09,764
a safer place yeah and and um to one point i said something about you know well the blogs say that

2403
02:41:09,764 --> 02:41:11,924
the council runs the world.

2404
02:41:11,924 --> 02:41:23,978
He said well someone has to So he might have been only half joking But I don think the council is what it used to be without Dallas or David Rockefeller

2405
02:41:23,978 --> 02:41:28,538
I think it's a much more neutral organization than it used to be

2406
02:41:28,538 --> 02:41:31,818
and I went in there one day

2407
02:41:31,818 --> 02:41:33,098
gave me a tour of the place

2408
02:41:33,098 --> 02:41:35,478
he tells this very funny story

2409
02:41:35,478 --> 02:41:39,458
famous people can use the council for functions

2410
02:41:39,458 --> 02:41:40,898
during the weekend for example

2411
02:41:40,898 --> 02:41:43,478
and who's the woman

2412
02:41:43,478 --> 02:41:44,678
who killed Uma Thurman

2413
02:41:44,678 --> 02:41:46,758
so he's sitting out

2414
02:41:46,758 --> 02:41:48,938
late one night with Ray

2415
02:41:48,938 --> 02:41:50,238
the security guard

2416
02:41:50,238 --> 02:41:53,518
and Uma Thurman comes out

2417
02:41:53,518 --> 02:41:54,658
and her chauffeur's there

2418
02:41:54,658 --> 02:41:57,918
and their chauffeur, Uma walks her dog

2419
02:41:57,918 --> 02:41:59,238
and the dog takes a dump

2420
02:41:59,238 --> 02:42:00,418
and doesn't clean it up

2421
02:42:00,418 --> 02:42:02,438
and Ray says hey, hey, you gonna clean that up

2422
02:42:02,438 --> 02:42:04,238
and

2423
02:42:04,238 --> 02:42:07,478
and she of course

2424
02:42:07,478 --> 02:42:09,218
doesn't give a shit about cleaning that up

2425
02:42:09,218 --> 02:42:17,998
So my son sort of scrambles and cleaned it up because he's really good at that sort of thing of, you know, smoothing over uncomfortable personalities.

2426
02:42:18,898 --> 02:42:21,138
And I trained him well.

2427
02:42:21,818 --> 02:42:26,018
And and then he says, you know, you know who that is?

2428
02:42:26,038 --> 02:42:27,358
He says, he says, no.

2429
02:42:28,098 --> 02:42:31,858
Oh, she says she says to Ray, do you know who I am?

2430
02:42:32,298 --> 02:42:33,278
And race is no.

2431
02:42:33,398 --> 02:42:34,638
And she says, I went with Thurman.

2432
02:42:34,718 --> 02:42:36,758
He says, my name's Ray.

2433
02:42:36,758 --> 02:42:44,698
and then and then afterwards will says um you know who she is she's she's in kill bill

2434
02:42:44,698 --> 02:42:52,838
and and ray goes oh yeah okay i thought i recognized her he he one day he got to sit

2435
02:42:52,838 --> 02:42:59,078
down and chat with nelson mandela for 45 minutes about the president of iran and iraq the same day

2436
02:42:59,078 --> 02:43:05,358
um madeline albright on his first day of work is throwing a shit fit because something's wrong

2437
02:43:05,358 --> 02:43:06,638
with a beverage or something.

2438
02:43:06,818 --> 02:43:09,238
And he says, don't worry, I'll take care of it.

2439
02:43:10,798 --> 02:43:13,518
And Greenspan, when he'd come in to talk,

2440
02:43:13,578 --> 02:43:17,318
they'd send a body double in to make sure the chair was right

2441
02:43:17,318 --> 02:43:18,578
and the microphone was right.

2442
02:43:18,638 --> 02:43:20,158
And I'm thinking, oh, shoot that fuck.

2443
02:43:20,598 --> 02:43:22,478
Of course, he died, so he solved the problem.

2444
02:43:23,278 --> 02:43:25,678
Him and Lindsay are down in the hot spot.

2445
02:43:27,278 --> 02:43:30,798
You know, during COVID, I actually gave Rudy my password.

2446
02:43:30,798 --> 02:43:34,438
He said, if I die, I want you to tweet from heaven.

2447
02:43:35,358 --> 02:43:41,998
right you could have a field day right if you have a guy who's known who's known to be dead

2448
02:43:41,998 --> 02:43:46,018
and he's tweeting from heaven saying you know i don't see a sign of lindsey up here

2449
02:43:46,018 --> 02:43:52,358
nothing not not no one's even heard of the guy you know you could you could have a field day

2450
02:43:52,358 --> 02:43:57,758
tweeting from heaven oh we get lobster every fucking day and oh my god you can't believe

2451
02:43:57,758 --> 02:44:05,078
how many times i banged you know marilyn monroe and going viral from the grave oh my god yeah it's

2452
02:44:05,078 --> 02:44:12,258
like tweet of god you can turn into tweet of god's level you know and and so i get and he says i'm

2453
02:44:12,258 --> 02:44:22,658
not comfortable with this i said rudy it's my dying wish he's too morally sound i couldn't think of

2454
02:44:22,658 --> 02:44:29,778
someone else i'd rather have do it though he would be phenomenal phenomenal the wit is very much a

2455
02:44:29,778 --> 02:44:34,838
line between you two yeah there's there's something there i like he's smart he's smarter than me and

2456
02:44:34,838 --> 02:44:37,218
He can remember shit better than me.

2457
02:44:37,478 --> 02:44:40,618
My adult brain is gone.

2458
02:44:41,138 --> 02:44:43,838
I just, in one ear, out the other ear.

2459
02:44:45,058 --> 02:44:46,738
He pulls up shit from the past.

2460
02:44:46,838 --> 02:44:47,778
I don't know how he does it.

2461
02:44:48,438 --> 02:44:48,678
Yeah.

2462
02:44:50,178 --> 02:44:52,738
And he's got those threads that are incredible.

2463
02:44:52,958 --> 02:44:54,338
If you're not following Rudy, go follow Rudy.

2464
02:44:54,778 --> 02:44:55,598
I've got to jump.

2465
02:44:56,498 --> 02:44:57,078
This has been fun.

2466
02:44:57,098 --> 02:44:57,718
I'll let you go.

2467
02:44:58,258 --> 02:44:58,518
Always.

2468
02:45:01,518 --> 02:45:01,998
Yeah.

2469
02:45:01,998 --> 02:45:06,458
Yeah, I mean, sort of got derailed because of Rudy's technical difficulties.

2470
02:45:06,778 --> 02:45:08,278
All our technical problems, yeah.

2471
02:45:08,598 --> 02:45:10,158
The R for retard, right?

2472
02:45:10,258 --> 02:45:11,238
The R for retard.

2473
02:45:12,898 --> 02:45:15,058
We covered some bases, though.

2474
02:45:15,438 --> 02:45:16,418
Fourth turning, fourth turning.

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02:45:16,778 --> 02:45:16,978
Prepare.

2476
02:45:17,218 --> 02:45:18,838
Fourth turning, that's the best model.

2477
02:45:19,458 --> 02:45:19,678
Yeah.

2478
02:45:20,058 --> 02:45:21,998
Or Ray Dalio's six turnings.

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02:45:23,398 --> 02:45:24,358
Peace and love, freaks.

2480
02:45:24,598 --> 02:45:25,398
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

2481
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