1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,040 I think college football is is still fine college basketball decimated college football as long as 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:10,140 you are the richest athletic department in the country is still cool which happens to be my 3 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:17,580 preferred university University Texas um high school football will never die um as long as 4 00:00:17,580 --> 00:00:23,340 you're in Texas so that's fine but the nil right was yeah like yeah this is atrocious and the 5 00:00:23,340 --> 00:00:27,960 transfer window it's so funny that the president is talking about this just make them a minor league 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,720 i mean that's i think that it's going to like a farm system type thing i was we were talking 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,840 about that earlier actually um about how like you know smaller schools are you have to adjust and 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,680 find a niche it's like hey our role is going to be we're going to take the backups from penn state 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,760 that didn't get any playing time we're talking about wrestling in particular they're going to 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,800 come here they're going to have a great year we're going to pay them 10 grand and then they're going 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,120 to make half a million bucks um you know somewhere else that's going to make our program like the 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,960 program that you got to come to it's totally different from what college sports have always 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,040 been but i think we're going to figure it out i think this is like kind of problematic for bitcoiners 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:07,080 in particular because like you want bitcoin to be at least somewhat relatable to like normcore 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,560 and like sports ball is a big part of that but like when you look into the way tax dollars are 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:20,200 deployed to support all college but also like new stadiums and like the non-profit status of the nfl 17 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,560 it's like it's pretty antithetical i would say to bitcoiners ethos to be into sports 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,340 it's fucking bad why am i good to sports college across yeah 19 00:01:31,340 --> 00:01:38,480 listen libby don though you know it do be having uh benefits 20 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:45,380 he's really good yeah insane the like the that's what i was the one for a sport like i do i actually 21 00:01:45,380 --> 00:01:55,320 coincidentally enough the next day the parade is when satoshi launched a white paper no shit 22 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:00,400 yeah so i was running around broad street as a 17 year old not knowing that satoshi was going 23 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,780 to change my life wow i used to be horribly horribly addicted to baseball i love baseball 24 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:09,420 the yankees completely broke my heart with the new stadium it's it's a very complicated 25 00:02:09,420 --> 00:02:15,080 relationship now like they absolutely just decimated my like favorite thing citizens 26 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,280 bank park one of the best stadiums in all the stadium uh pirates it's a great one too pirate 27 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:26,520 stadium is amazing does that make it more or less likely that satoshi was as a philadelphian and i 28 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,240 mean freedom obviously yeah freedom but like would he have been too hung over to launch bitcoin he 29 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:37,160 was talking about trying a lot maybe maybe yeah but go back to the bitcoin talk.org early days 30 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:44,840 there was trank brought up uh quite a bit kidding we're working on that time we're working um yeah i 31 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,460 Similarly, growing up, diehard Rangers fan, 32 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,620 watched 60-plus games a year with my dad. 33 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,240 Is this Texas or New York? 34 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Texas Rangers. 35 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:56,800 Okay, the lesser Rangers. 36 00:02:56,940 --> 00:02:57,200 Yes. 37 00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:00,400 Broke my heart in 2011, 2012, 38 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,020 those back-to-back World Series that they lost in Game 7. 39 00:03:03,340 --> 00:03:03,520 Yeah. 40 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,200 And I just haven't been able to. 41 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Was CJ on the team back then? 42 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,640 I think he was a couple years before then. 43 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:10,580 But yeah, that was. 44 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:11,080 He was Angels? 45 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:12,320 It still just blows my mind. 46 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,140 He was Angels and Rangers. 47 00:03:13,140 --> 00:03:14,680 He was like a friend of mine. 48 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,300 yeah because i was like i remember like watching cj on tv and i remember we went to pull those at 49 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:21,860 one time i sat down i was sitting next to cj wilson i was like holy fuck is this cj wilson 50 00:03:21,860 --> 00:03:27,420 he was a golden glove or one yeah i was like oh my god yeah you're here and you're cool and 51 00:03:27,420 --> 00:03:34,120 can i get a lease we're getting into a subject that uh what are your thoughts on on sports ball 52 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:46,000 you're all uh you're all in this just extended daycare universe 53 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,400 mental daycare 54 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:58,240 what sports do i watch thank you for asking uh olympic rowing 55 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:06,120 twins yeah wingle boss twins yeah last sporting event i cared they were they were good you knew 56 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,000 their splits their senior year at harvard dude they they actually founded the rival rowing club 57 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:19,140 to my rowing club mainly because my rowing club was too was too jank for them philly's great philly's 58 00:04:19,140 --> 00:04:24,020 great rowing city i've rode there many a time the schuylkill thomas akins really the american 59 00:04:24,020 --> 00:04:31,060 realist painter uh one of the greatest american artists his subjects were nearly 60 00:04:31,060 --> 00:04:36,540 well i would say they were predominated by rowers yeah uh 61 00:04:36,540 --> 00:04:43,560 everybody's cracking up in the background if you if you don't know thomas akins the joke is on you 62 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,620 yeah you're on culture you're you're unironically unaware of american art if you don't know thomas 63 00:04:49,620 --> 00:04:54,060 taken Christian's parents you know what I found out that's right you know what I found out uh my 64 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:58,860 boys go to a Catholic school in the area and it's probably got a docks where they go to school so 65 00:04:58,860 --> 00:05:04,560 maybe I shouldn't but like Norman Rockwell used to work out of it Rockwell man I thought he was 66 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,340 Chicago I think he I think he traveled a lot but yeah yeah he had uh he had that awesome oh he's 67 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:16,140 got the meme the man standing up standing up yeah yeah very brave yeah what's a Norman Rockwell 68 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:20,160 feeling that you have right now about the world well actually if you guys uh look at the thumbnails 69 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,260 on tftc every prompt i put in the mid journey is an oil painting in the style of norman rockwell 70 00:05:25,260 --> 00:05:31,380 so if you that is the sort of basis for all of our i'm sorry i have not been consuming every 71 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:37,680 scrap of ai slop you've thrown my way do you do you do you write the bent anymore 72 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:46,500 the bent yes you just click print every day you haven't cheated once with ai for a bent 73 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:52,160 no that's impressive for the bent no i'm not sure i believe it but keep going no that is that is 74 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:57,720 artisanal writing there that is from the hands i respect that that's man can we i would i would 75 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:05,140 be interested to see a histogram of bent topics we can actually do that um someone someone crunched 76 00:06:05,140 --> 00:06:10,420 numbers we talked about last night the first band ever was a uh mentions mold mold bug please really 77 00:06:10,420 --> 00:06:15,940 it was on uh bitcoin is money money is a bubble money is a bubble bitcoin is money or i heard he's 78 00:06:15,940 --> 00:06:23,060 satoshi actually so um i wrote a weekly blog when i was at fidelity for for a while i was writing a 79 00:06:23,060 --> 00:06:30,020 weekly blog that was like a network update like a market update and then some stuff and i uh i 80 00:06:30,020 --> 00:06:32,660 I still am a big fan of, uh, great man. 81 00:06:32,660 --> 00:06:33,100 Mercy. 82 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,280 Yeah. 83 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:34,940 Trilemma. 84 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:47,040 Um, but a very difficult blog to, um, uh, look through when you're at work because 80% of it is just on like it's long format blog posts of like obscure, like hardcore porn. 85 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,220 And it was a randomizer. 86 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:53,740 So I'm like looking for something that he wrote on like Bitcoin, a specific like blog post that I remember. 87 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:56,900 And you have to like go through it and it's like Brazilian fart porn. 88 00:06:56,900 --> 00:07:03,920 it's like you know Taiwanese feet like all this stuff and uh one day I got I got called by IT it's 89 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,800 just like you need to fucking stop it do you think he's dead huh do you think he's dead I hope not I 90 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,760 don't think so I think that it could be so it could be a self-canceling I've surfed that beachy 91 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,160 quote-unquote died on Playa Hermosa and Haco Costa Rica and I've probably surfed there four or five 92 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,600 times and it's like well known in the area like it's a heavy short break like you don't go in 93 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,500 dangerous he died surfing yeah is the story no i thought he i thought he was frolicking in the 94 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:32,760 waves with a bunch of women no no he was surfing was he yeah okay that's more plausible and i think 95 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,880 that he was learning to surf i don't think that yeah that's not where you want to learn to surf 96 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:45,320 i will say rest in peace i do have a an unironic chad friend late late chad who uh joined the 97 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:54,420 marines and did die surfing and he was you know he was strapped yeah it's a sport what's the what's 98 00:07:54,420 --> 00:07:59,900 the what's the what i believe it was in uh believe it was in galveston it was also dirt 99 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:06,800 isn't this yeah it was in texas well known for surfing well it was texas well it was it was 100 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:16,520 during it was during her it wasn't it wasn't what was the hurricane of 21 not not saying irene yeah 101 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:22,960 it was irene came up here harvey harvey was the one i think where it just like dumped water well 102 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:33,380 i i believe and i i apologize if i'm if i'm uh if i'm speaking falsehood on his name but i i think 103 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:39,280 he tried to surf the hurricane and uh perished yeah that's when the waves get best times you eat 104 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:45,800 the bar that's the one the waves get best in jersey the hurricane i almost died hurricane uh 105 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,480 dennis 2009 yeah peak condition man coming off my senior year of lacrosse summer of surfing but 106 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,840 uh i ride a longboard it's like nine foot oh did is that what is was that your saving grace 107 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:04,120 no because uh i was sir i mean keita you're laughing but you know how big the waves can 108 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,940 get september when a hurricane swell comes i i was like two hours into a session just caught 109 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:14,320 a wave it was like i got one more in me um started paddling out rubber arms clean up set 110 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:21,320 comes i'm on my 90 climbing the peak crest over me land on the water 200 yards out on my backboard 111 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:28,920 on top leash snaps that's like butterfly paddle in bro like uh almost drowned the board was the loss 112 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:36,280 it just went to the the shore who's there okay yeah yeah if i were a surfer i would simply not 113 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:42,680 surf during a hurricane it's fun dude dude if you live if you lived on a if you live next to a 114 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:49,640 uh a pretty low stakes beach you you might you might be tempted galveston galveston 115 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,980 avoiding vietnamese shrimp boats 116 00:09:52,980 --> 00:10:02,080 good grief that's san antonio the six the six foot swells should we uh should we talk about 117 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,360 bitcoin at all or we just have yeah we could do that why are we here we're here uh yeah wait but 118 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,940 we've got back to galveston the best thing about bitcoin is it's fucking boring and dead it's over 119 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:19,560 it's great i'm the most like at peace with the world dude bitcoin is just like an 120 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:29,360 NGO topic it's like freedom tech now it's over uh the spice is coming back though we're here 121 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:36,540 for the op next we're at pub key the uh big topic of the day institutions saying that we're going to 122 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:41,140 be quantum prepared by 2029 they're going to make sure dude i heard that brian i was sitting next to 123 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:48,240 you in there what were your thoughts shut the fuck up you know i'm gonna i'm gonna try and give uh 124 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,340 an honest charitable interpretation. 125 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,000 You know, there are some gentlemen from, you know, 126 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,080 various serious financial institutions. 127 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:55,760 You can name them. 128 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:56,960 It was a live stream. 129 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,440 Yeah, it was like a guy from Coinbase, a guy from Anchorage. 130 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,140 This is the serious one. 131 00:11:01,140 --> 00:11:02,120 A guy from BlackRock. 132 00:11:02,740 --> 00:11:04,500 So they were sitting up there and they were talking about like, 133 00:11:04,540 --> 00:11:08,320 hey, like our, you know, the whole trade for Bitcoin 134 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,280 for these institutions, for institutional investors 135 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,200 has been like the asymmetric upside with like, you know, 136 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:13,960 very little downside. 137 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,860 And I remember one of my favorite quotes of all time 138 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:17,720 about Bitcoin came from Ross Stevens. 139 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,600 talking about how he's like, look, if you have an exponential return profile for this asset 140 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:30,320 and you eliminate the chance it goes to zero, like your mean, your average expected return just 141 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,200 explodes, right? If the zero is gone, all of a sudden it's, you know, your mean, your mean average 142 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:42,960 return is just enormous. And so I think it is fair for these investors to becoming these institutions 143 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,520 and be like, hey, like if this quantum thing takes Bitcoin to zero, like all of a sudden my math on 144 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,720 on where I think it's going to go, like totally changes. Now, like, it's not like this is a new 145 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,380 topic, right? This is, this has been baked in. I do not think quantum computers are going to take 146 00:11:57,380 --> 00:12:01,500 Bitcoin to zero. So I think it's like a little silly to be worried about, but I do see the 147 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:06,880 argument. And so from these institutions perspective, they're like, Hey, I need something 148 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,700 to tell these investors who are, you know, getting a little worried about this, like Bitcoiners, 149 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,940 give me a plan. What's the roadmap. Solana's figuring it out. Like, you know, right. But 150 00:12:16,940 --> 00:12:21,060 But it's like they don't understand how open source works. 151 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,780 They don't understand how Bitcoin works. 152 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:35,780 They're not able to parse through like the various proposals that have come up and see that like there's activity happening and people care about this. 153 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:48,812 They instead are just kind of falling prey to the FUD of like Bitcoin doomed and it never going to happen which is just the same old crypto story that we been facing forever did you catch the inglorious bastards three uh 154 00:12:49,372 --> 00:12:54,412 three mistake that was made on stage no i didn't the coinbase guy number one he was like coinbase 155 00:12:54,412 --> 00:12:58,012 is like part of this community we were like we would never attack bitcoin it's like all right 156 00:12:58,012 --> 00:13:01,372 and he was referencing the block size wars he's like we've been in this for years like well 157 00:13:02,252 --> 00:13:07,692 where what were you guys doing back then and then he was uh talking about bit 361 but he kept 158 00:13:07,692 --> 00:13:14,732 referencing it he's like yeah we got bip 361 it was like ah it's like inglorious bastards like yeah 159 00:13:17,612 --> 00:13:20,892 so i mean yeah that was you know it's one of those things where it's like 160 00:13:23,932 --> 00:13:29,692 i don't i don't i don't envy their job in trying to calm down panicky investors who are like 161 00:13:29,692 --> 00:13:34,972 realizing that this they're like what what do i do and you know like that might be a little bit 162 00:13:34,972 --> 00:13:38,632 tough to be like you should just calm down and like let the bitcoin community figure it out like 163 00:13:38,632 --> 00:13:44,332 they're just as invested as you are uh and and this is all going to be fine and like there are 164 00:13:44,332 --> 00:13:49,172 things happening but chenco's gonna figure it out yeah like of course like chenco's gonna figure it 165 00:13:49,172 --> 00:13:53,912 out they they have it all written down right roast beef you know wrote a post about it recently you 166 00:13:53,912 --> 00:13:59,812 know um don't really know how i feel about lops proposal but you know there's stuff happening and 167 00:13:59,812 --> 00:14:06,572 And that's the groundwork for something eventually getting merged in if it's necessary. 168 00:14:07,792 --> 00:14:07,952 Yeah. 169 00:14:08,672 --> 00:14:10,532 Got the best cryptographers in the world working on Bitcoin. 170 00:14:10,712 --> 00:14:11,632 They're going to figure it out. 171 00:14:11,692 --> 00:14:12,852 Are they going to fire the devs, though? 172 00:14:13,192 --> 00:14:13,712 That's, yeah. 173 00:14:13,892 --> 00:14:14,952 That was a... 174 00:14:14,952 --> 00:14:17,452 If they've never employed the devs to begin with, can they fire them? 175 00:14:17,572 --> 00:14:17,912 I don't know. 176 00:14:18,372 --> 00:14:18,752 I don't know. 177 00:14:19,292 --> 00:14:22,152 This is my panel at the conference. 178 00:14:22,492 --> 00:14:22,792 It's me. 179 00:14:22,812 --> 00:14:23,372 You're reading it, right? 180 00:14:23,492 --> 00:14:24,632 Yeah, I'm moderating. 181 00:14:24,632 --> 00:14:29,512 It's me, Eric Foskel, John Attack, and Eric Lombroso. 182 00:14:29,812 --> 00:14:35,632 uh it's gonna be um it'll be fun what do you think Foscule's gonna say about this 183 00:14:35,632 --> 00:14:40,912 you know exactly what he's gonna say about this um John attacks actually really interesting 184 00:14:40,912 --> 00:14:46,072 obviously he was a big you know core contributor for a long time like in the the core community 185 00:14:46,072 --> 00:14:53,152 Eric's always been an outsider um and I think Eric and John are gonna be the most interesting ones 186 00:14:53,152 --> 00:14:58,672 to sort of shed a little bit of light on how things have changed I would say in the last like 187 00:14:58,672 --> 00:15:06,232 or six years as far as like core capital c core is concerned um it'll be interesting i'm probably 188 00:15:06,232 --> 00:15:10,992 not going to make a ton of friends uh with that panel but it'll be it'll be fine what's herbert's 189 00:15:10,992 --> 00:15:20,732 view on this does erbert have a view do you have post-death views or opinions uh yeah erbert 190 00:15:20,732 --> 00:15:29,212 cryptography uh we we we write our own over at urbit um go get one of the books can you pass me 191 00:15:29,212 --> 00:15:34,332 one of the urban yeah give me the urbit systems technical journal on top of the pac-man machine 192 00:15:34,332 --> 00:15:41,412 see a cocktail table see how many times quantum is in the index there uh is it in there we'll find 193 00:15:41,412 --> 00:15:53,792 out we'll find out thank you uh no it's it's it systems technical journal by uh christian yardley 194 00:15:53,792 --> 00:16:00,792 it's no it's a shame uh it's a shame jake isn't here he is a jake's a great dude jake jake's a 195 00:16:00,792 --> 00:16:08,592 lot of fun conversations erbit tends to try to uh figure things out from first principles and 196 00:16:08,592 --> 00:16:14,552 implement them as as quickly as possible um i don't think erbit uses elliptic 197 00:16:14,552 --> 00:16:22,572 cryptography as far as i'm aware so it's not precisely an erbit concern um the thing i like 198 00:16:22,572 --> 00:16:28,792 the most about erbit is they are the smartest people on the planet that are also really good 199 00:16:28,792 --> 00:16:34,352 natured with how hard you control the fuck out of them for like abject failures and mismanagement 200 00:16:34,352 --> 00:16:39,652 of the entire like project but like there's like a level of intelligence that's just like yeah i 201 00:16:39,652 --> 00:16:47,672 understand and you're right um however i'm way smarter than you and i'm gonna keep doing this 202 00:16:47,672 --> 00:16:51,872 project nevertheless she persisted 203 00:16:51,872 --> 00:17:00,692 it's a great i love her but uh you know we're gonna we're gonna keep showing up 204 00:17:00,692 --> 00:17:05,152 we're older than bitcoin don't forget that i just don't understand where the money comes from 205 00:17:05,152 --> 00:17:14,692 and and and then and groundwire is uh even slashing slashing the last remaining 206 00:17:14,692 --> 00:17:22,672 grift that erbit had which is we've you know soft forked the identity layer to include 207 00:17:22,672 --> 00:17:30,292 bitcoin now so you don't have to rely on ethereum and the scarce ethereum namespace is no longer 208 00:17:30,292 --> 00:17:38,412 you know the the motivating monetization for the for the project so we'll be running on donations 209 00:17:38,412 --> 00:17:45,352 from here on out and goodwill toward men that's pretty cool that's wild that's how bitcoin works 210 00:17:45,352 --> 00:17:51,212 curtis yarvin is the erbit guy right yes and he's appeared in like a totally different context 211 00:17:51,212 --> 00:17:55,912 over the last couple years he's he'll be at the conference he's speaking he has many hats i'm 212 00:17:55,912 --> 00:17:59,992 speaking yes he'll be what's he you know what he's talking about this conference yeah vegas 213 00:17:59,992 --> 00:18:05,432 yeah oh vegas i was like he's here kirby no no he actually comes through here he he did a 214 00:18:05,432 --> 00:18:12,132 he did a show of peter four hour four hour marathon with peter mccormick and then he went out to uh 215 00:18:12,132 --> 00:18:16,852 london for like a part two as well and it was another four hour marathon that's why peter's 216 00:18:16,852 --> 00:18:22,272 been so radicalized in the recent i think that peter's getting really into uh really into curtis 217 00:18:22,272 --> 00:18:24,212 as one does when you start. 218 00:18:24,312 --> 00:18:25,692 It's Curtis Yarvin's top guy. 219 00:18:25,812 --> 00:18:26,992 It's Curtis Yarvin's top guy. 220 00:18:28,172 --> 00:18:29,052 Curtis is great. 221 00:18:29,152 --> 00:18:29,952 He comes through a bunch. 222 00:18:30,012 --> 00:18:31,592 I'd like to do something with him here. 223 00:18:31,712 --> 00:18:33,492 Maybe we'll have him at Hostile Takeover. 224 00:18:34,152 --> 00:18:36,292 Oh, that would be fun. 225 00:18:36,532 --> 00:18:37,792 That would be really great. 226 00:18:37,792 --> 00:18:38,172 That would be fun. 227 00:18:38,372 --> 00:18:38,772 Potentially. 228 00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:39,832 Curtis, if you're listening, 229 00:18:39,992 --> 00:18:40,992 I'll shoot you a minute. 230 00:18:40,992 --> 00:18:41,492 Speaking of which, 231 00:18:41,492 --> 00:18:42,472 if you haven't gotten your tickets yet, 232 00:18:42,952 --> 00:18:44,432 what is it, 27th? 233 00:18:44,612 --> 00:18:45,072 Hostile Takeover. 234 00:18:45,072 --> 00:18:46,412 Are you selling additional tickets? 235 00:18:47,772 --> 00:18:47,952 What? 236 00:18:48,172 --> 00:18:49,472 We haven't even tranched out. 237 00:18:49,632 --> 00:18:51,332 Are you selling tickets? 238 00:18:51,332 --> 00:18:55,292 no we did the thing where you raise the prices with each tranche we just didn't tell people are 239 00:18:55,292 --> 00:18:59,572 you gonna do that are you are you did it in the past and we're just like oh people should expect 240 00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:04,132 this yeah you're you're grifting on top of the grift there's enough there's a new tranche 241 00:19:04,132 --> 00:19:11,832 grift deception at higher premium prices get your premium tickets to sit are you doing the school 242 00:19:11,832 --> 00:19:16,612 bus again no we're not doing the school bus we're taking over town nightclub which is the greatest 243 00:19:16,612 --> 00:19:22,012 dive barn um james o'brien is going to be djing on like one of the best sound systems in the 244 00:19:22,012 --> 00:19:28,292 country dang uh it's going to be it's going to be weird but he won't play blade like so the story 245 00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:35,972 behind the story behind uh every time i make a request he loves he loves when i go up during his 246 00:19:35,972 --> 00:19:42,512 set and request track by blade the story behind hostile takeover it started during the bitcoin 247 00:19:42,512 --> 00:19:47,472 conference in nashville and well i think you got to go back i think the max club deuce party was 248 00:19:47,472 --> 00:19:53,232 like the precursor to the very first thing that pub key ever did was with marty and tftc we hosted 249 00:19:53,232 --> 00:19:59,952 uh a pop-up at mac club deuce which is the oldest dive bar in miami and the capacity there is about 250 00:19:59,952 --> 00:20:04,592 80 people it's a very small dive bar uh it's amazing cigarettes and can smoke cigarettes 251 00:20:04,592 --> 00:20:12,352 inside you got a two-for-one special from 6 a.m until like 2 p.m uh it's a shady place for sunny 252 00:20:12,352 --> 00:20:19,092 people. And it's just like one of my favorite bars on the planet. But we did this thing, we had 253 00:20:19,092 --> 00:20:24,572 matches, the original pub key matches, and it had like a cat on it. These are collector's items at 254 00:20:24,572 --> 00:20:29,172 this point. And, you know, Marty and I were handing out matchbooks during the Bitcoin conference, 255 00:20:29,172 --> 00:20:35,112 and we're doing what? And at beefsteak? Yeah, that's right. And we're like, yeah, we're doing 256 00:20:35,112 --> 00:20:41,352 like a pub key pop up, you know, swing through. Nobody was really there. And a good friend of 257 00:20:41,352 --> 00:20:48,712 mine came in um uh shah and he was early and it was empty and he was really nervous because the 258 00:20:48,712 --> 00:20:53,732 bouncer didn't know anything about that he like presented he's not American he like presented his 259 00:20:53,732 --> 00:20:58,672 like matchbook uh and he's just what the fuck is that like yeah go inside like Thomas the bouncer 260 00:20:58,672 --> 00:21:02,132 does not know about the matchbooks because we were telling people this is how you get in you 261 00:21:02,132 --> 00:21:07,832 have to show the matchbook we started laughing fast forward a couple of hours and the line we 262 00:21:07,832 --> 00:21:13,272 had like 400 people on a line all the way to like washington it's on colin's place and it like 263 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:17,172 wrapped around the block and the bouncer comes over he's like thomas like you know we got like 264 00:21:17,172 --> 00:21:20,772 a lot of people here what do you want me to do it's like yeah great like let him in he's like 265 00:21:20,772 --> 00:21:25,072 no you don't understand like come here like look at this line i was like oh yeah um only let people 266 00:21:25,072 --> 00:21:32,012 in with the matchbox it was like full circle but it started there and then we did hot style takeover 267 00:21:32,012 --> 00:21:36,912 and if you say it fast enough it sounds like a hostile takeover and in our third year the joke 268 00:21:36,912 --> 00:21:41,632 is paying off because the bitcoin conference wants it to be part of the conference so it'll be at the 269 00:21:41,632 --> 00:21:49,632 venetian at town nightclub monday uh april 27th from 1 to 6 p.m which gives you more than enough 270 00:21:49,632 --> 00:21:54,752 time to get to beefsteak at 6 30 afterwards so and if we haven't if we have critical mass that 271 00:21:54,752 --> 00:21:59,872 have tickets to both we'll probably get like a a party bus with stripper poles no strippers though 272 00:22:01,072 --> 00:22:06,352 smart yeah family man yeah you know strippers but if you want to strip 273 00:22:06,352 --> 00:22:10,672 like you can and we're going for what we're going for a medieval vibe with that a medieval vibe this 274 00:22:10,672 --> 00:22:15,312 uh this house i'll take it yeah there's gonna be a medieval theme um we got a lot of jerk what do we 275 00:22:15,312 --> 00:22:25,392 got there's a knight there's a knight night medieval helmets okay yeah any battle axes 276 00:22:26,592 --> 00:22:34,752 weapons are hard shields yeah defensive only yeah chainmail christian iconography very crusades 277 00:22:34,752 --> 00:22:35,512 I love that. 278 00:22:36,572 --> 00:22:38,212 What else do we have? 279 00:22:38,712 --> 00:22:39,352 A bagpiper. 280 00:22:39,872 --> 00:22:40,632 There's a bagpiper. 281 00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:42,232 There's a bagpiper. 282 00:22:42,232 --> 00:22:47,492 We got comedians. 283 00:22:48,212 --> 00:22:48,772 Comedians. 284 00:22:48,892 --> 00:22:49,592 We got music. 285 00:22:49,872 --> 00:22:52,452 We're going to have the rotating couch. 286 00:22:53,092 --> 00:22:58,112 This year, it's PubKey, RHR on stage. 287 00:22:58,452 --> 00:22:59,252 There'll be chairs. 288 00:22:59,972 --> 00:23:00,912 We can find a couch. 289 00:23:01,512 --> 00:23:03,212 We'll take a bunch of chairs together. 290 00:23:03,212 --> 00:23:10,612 And then the bugle boys are going to be like the old critics in the Muppets. 291 00:23:10,872 --> 00:23:15,132 And they'll be mic'd up just heckling like the rotation of guests that we have. 292 00:23:15,252 --> 00:23:22,772 And, you know, obviously Matt, Marty and I, we've been trying to get the bugle to focus on Marty and I because it doesn't work so well with Matt. 293 00:23:22,892 --> 00:23:23,732 He takes it personally. 294 00:23:24,012 --> 00:23:26,692 No, let's take us back to Nashville two years ago. 295 00:23:26,852 --> 00:23:32,932 You hired a roast comedian and then hid on the other side of the stage and we got roasted. 296 00:23:33,212 --> 00:23:39,772 uh while you were sitting behind behind him matt did that to himself if you show a roast comedian 297 00:23:39,772 --> 00:23:44,212 that you are angry or hurt by anything they're saying they're going to show you become the guy 298 00:23:44,212 --> 00:23:50,652 what did he call me like a red barber bush barbara bush yeah look at this barber i was actually i 299 00:23:50,652 --> 00:23:55,112 think i was wearing the shirt on stage you were you did turn into a lobster though yeah it was 300 00:23:55,112 --> 00:24:02,332 uh stressful and that year it was sponsored by hrf uh he uh he came out he goes good afternoon 301 00:24:02,332 --> 00:24:08,652 bitcoin f words uh there was a child in the in the and it's like brought to you by hrf in the 302 00:24:08,652 --> 00:24:16,852 background i was just like fuck but yeah that happened it happened it was fun 303 00:24:16,852 --> 00:24:23,472 the series continues that's a great venue i mean the uh the towel compared to that 304 00:24:23,472 --> 00:24:28,432 is gonna be very different very different we usually do it in dive bars um i don't love vegas 305 00:24:28,432 --> 00:24:31,812 It's really hard to book stuff and pull off these parties in Vegas 306 00:24:31,812 --> 00:24:33,412 because you got unions. 307 00:24:33,832 --> 00:24:36,232 You got lots of different things that make Vegas difficult. 308 00:24:37,052 --> 00:24:38,812 But I'm super optimistic on Tao. 309 00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:40,152 I think this is going in the right direction. 310 00:24:40,252 --> 00:24:41,492 They want their pound of flesh on everything. 311 00:24:41,732 --> 00:24:42,772 Yeah, a lot of middlemen. 312 00:24:43,032 --> 00:24:43,272 Yeah. 313 00:24:43,532 --> 00:24:44,572 A lot of middlemen in Vegas. 314 00:24:46,972 --> 00:24:49,532 I've heard there are rumors that it's the last year in Vegas. 315 00:24:49,552 --> 00:24:50,372 Coming back to New York. 316 00:24:50,372 --> 00:24:53,712 But I don't know where they're going. 317 00:24:54,232 --> 00:24:57,912 Hey, speaking of Solana, did Joe McCann kill that girl? 318 00:24:58,432 --> 00:25:05,052 wow yeah that's been what a story yeah I don't know what are what are our theories I I don't know 319 00:25:05,052 --> 00:25:12,112 he's clearly being extorted okay I heard this thing hello we can bribe the police constable 320 00:25:12,112 --> 00:25:19,612 for about you know what did Arthur Hayes say bushel of coconuts oh man that was an all-time quote 321 00:25:19,612 --> 00:25:32,804 yeah no the seychelles yeah but yeah this is this is tanzania though like let you know i don know if it totally different yeah it does look pretty strange his profile picture 322 00:25:32,804 --> 00:25:38,964 yeah i did see i will he there was like a tweet about it and he flipped it immediately so he's 323 00:25:38,964 --> 00:25:43,624 paying attention yeah um to the twitter noise i don't know he has his phone i thought he's in jail 324 00:25:43,624 --> 00:25:49,324 i have no he's not no idea what's where'd you hear that i don't know i haven't been following 325 00:25:49,324 --> 00:25:55,564 that closely i i don't think he's in jail at all has dan held commented on this yet wasn't he a 326 00:25:55,564 --> 00:25:59,724 partner at asymmetric what is what does dan have to do with this yeah or or he's a partner at 327 00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:05,744 asymmetric i think he raised like a defi fund with them with him we might have to cut this part 328 00:26:05,744 --> 00:26:16,524 speculation we don't cut here speculation yeah joe dan ashley if you're listening come on the pod 329 00:26:19,324 --> 00:26:24,684 come to hot style take it is terrible for you like not to make light of this but it is it is a crypto 330 00:26:24,684 --> 00:26:31,484 saga uh and i hope that it is an extortion scheme uh because that would probably be the best outcome 331 00:26:31,484 --> 00:26:37,164 here yes no favorite saga of all time that would be less i mean it's up there like what is your 332 00:26:37,164 --> 00:26:43,884 favorite less than murder what is my favorite crypto song that's such a good question who is 333 00:26:43,884 --> 00:26:49,404 the one when was he was he a solana diversity ethereum dev or he said uh the cia my girlfriend's 334 00:26:49,404 --> 00:26:54,204 like a spook and she ratted this oh it's the maker dow finder maker the guy who then like 335 00:26:54,204 --> 00:26:59,164 yeah like they're running a petto island down here like well i'm not i'm not nikolai was his 336 00:26:59,164 --> 00:27:04,124 name i forget what it was but yeah he like he like tweeted like my girlfriend is a is a spook 337 00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:09,084 they're on to me like oh yeah and he was like you know building like a you know decentralized stable 338 00:27:09,084 --> 00:27:17,564 coin yeah he died like 24 hours later yeah is swalwell done who swalwell the eric california 339 00:27:17,564 --> 00:27:25,084 guy yeah is he dead no is he done yeah yeah he resigned he is yeah but is he you know near to 340 00:27:25,084 --> 00:27:32,044 return oh he'll land on like a private equity board or something oh yes um how many favorite 341 00:27:32,044 --> 00:27:38,564 My favorite crypto saga, one of my favorite stories ever is how Steve Bannon created Ethereum. 342 00:27:39,724 --> 00:27:41,864 It is one of my all-time favorites. 343 00:27:42,524 --> 00:27:47,624 So Steve Bannon, Brock Pierce, before Bitcoin, had a World of Warcraft mining operation. 344 00:27:48,844 --> 00:27:55,184 And that caused Blizzard Activision to brick the in-game economy and fix it because it was really bastardizing everything. 345 00:27:55,184 --> 00:28:00,684 If you remember, Vitalik was in college and his account got bricked and he got really into Bitcoin because of that. 346 00:28:00,684 --> 00:28:05,884 um he nerd raged because they nerfed his like sort of Excalibur or something like that 347 00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:10,664 and he found a bitcoin magazine right after that for sure for sure but do you see the Bannon uh 348 00:28:10,664 --> 00:28:20,904 Epstein fit pick no no it's really good Bannon's my fashion uh fashion icon by the way it is 349 00:28:20,904 --> 00:28:25,584 pretty awesome he's really into utility utility pockets like cargo pants 350 00:28:25,584 --> 00:28:33,324 favorite i feel like there's so many and i'm i'm it's been you know crypto sagas it's like 351 00:28:33,324 --> 00:28:39,484 there's a new one every month big verne that was a big one cryptic verne was insane oh the guy that 352 00:28:39,484 --> 00:28:44,404 faked his death in india because he got diarrhea he had he had crohn's or whatever yeah the canadian 353 00:28:44,404 --> 00:28:50,764 quadriga yeah that was a good one that's a really that was a really good one so racist i have 354 00:28:50,764 --> 00:28:56,444 Crohn's disease and I went to India and pooped myself to death and then like the Bitcoin just 355 00:28:56,444 --> 00:29:02,824 kind of subtly moved didn't they and I was like what happened here that was a crazy one um I mean 356 00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:07,564 newer ones the uh the government contracting the security of the strategic reserve to some 357 00:29:07,564 --> 00:29:14,264 contractor and the sun just like ran off with what like 40 million in wallets was that a wig 358 00:29:14,264 --> 00:29:20,264 he was wearing when they took him in where the servers was who was that oh yeah the the professor 359 00:29:20,264 --> 00:29:25,384 lie that's like uh whatever his name is it's gone viral on youtube that jang yeah he's like the 360 00:29:25,384 --> 00:29:30,184 thing about bitcoin is like who's running the servers like i'm running a server like you're 361 00:29:30,184 --> 00:29:35,824 running you know what you got us dude yeah hands up hand up nobody's ever asked that in 15 years 362 00:29:35,824 --> 00:29:39,504 who can you believe because like that guy's i mean hand up guilty like i've shared some of the stuff 363 00:29:39,504 --> 00:29:42,064 like oh this guy's making a lot of sense and you hear something like that you're like oh this is 364 00:29:42,064 --> 00:29:46,524 completely what's the what's the laws of like jail man amnesia yeah jail man amnesia i know there's 365 00:29:46,524 --> 00:29:51,184 too much stuff like that i see that a lot i'm sorry what is gentleman amnesia when you read 366 00:29:51,184 --> 00:29:54,764 something in a paper that you're like an expert on some journalist is writing about and you're 367 00:29:54,764 --> 00:29:57,944 like this is completely wrong and then you flip the page and you read another story you're like 368 00:29:57,944 --> 00:30:03,304 oh well this is a good story yeah something i have that i have that so often i haven't heard 369 00:30:03,304 --> 00:30:08,244 working with claude with working with ai where it's like look we're doing like stuff that's not 370 00:30:08,244 --> 00:30:11,624 my area of expertise like man this sounds like you're really on top of it and then it comes to 371 00:30:11,624 --> 00:30:13,984 like a lightning thing or something where I'm like an expert. 372 00:30:13,984 --> 00:30:17,064 And it's like, well, you're like 80% of the way there. 373 00:30:17,284 --> 00:30:18,464 There's some like really, 374 00:30:18,704 --> 00:30:21,504 really crucial misunderstandings that are fucking up this whole response. 375 00:30:22,424 --> 00:30:23,564 I mean, this is important. 376 00:30:23,704 --> 00:30:24,564 Maybe I should get the booster. 377 00:30:28,144 --> 00:30:29,684 Didn't get the first two, but the booster. 378 00:30:30,084 --> 00:30:30,784 Why not? 379 00:30:31,144 --> 00:30:34,584 Good point in the conversation to warn people out there about AI psychosis. 380 00:30:34,724 --> 00:30:37,584 These things are tools meant to help you do things. 381 00:30:37,804 --> 00:30:40,944 Do not try to befriend them and have them be your life coach 382 00:30:40,944 --> 00:30:47,044 or help you discover breakthroughs in quantum physics churches and pubs yeah long churches and 383 00:30:47,044 --> 00:30:51,544 pubs everybody's gonna get that's what we're gonna do like one-on-one that's what we want to talk 384 00:30:51,544 --> 00:30:58,904 about like yeah the uh growth of the trend of in-person connection yeah growing moving forward 385 00:30:58,904 --> 00:31:05,204 so important for sure third places third places those things they are really important it's easy 386 00:31:05,204 --> 00:31:10,364 to make fun of it because it has become sort of just like a talking point in a deck in a pub key 387 00:31:10,364 --> 00:31:18,644 deck as we go out to raise more financing um you're instrumentalizing and redditifying just 388 00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:25,844 normal human relations everything lindy everything pure you're perverting it 389 00:31:25,844 --> 00:31:32,644 to sell it to your investors not everybody can just go like to the woods and work on an art 390 00:31:32,644 --> 00:31:38,404 project repent repent dude dude you have no idea the type of art projects that i work on 391 00:31:38,404 --> 00:31:47,764 the world of senior art i was i mean you have a very famous piece i was i was milling a i was 392 00:31:47,764 --> 00:31:53,644 milling a large oak tree the other day what are you milling it down to what are you uh 393 00:31:53,644 --> 00:32:02,044 into into oak trees slabs oak oak slabs nice are you gonna sell those on essay no i'm gonna make 394 00:32:02,044 --> 00:32:08,064 my wife a patio table oh that's nice nice it's very thoughtful because i'm trad yeah 395 00:32:08,064 --> 00:32:19,324 are you gonna lacquer it no no no raw oak no i i don't rock with lacquer i like uh i like tongue 396 00:32:19,324 --> 00:32:30,504 oil what's tongue oil from what kind of tongue t-u-n-g it's a nut uh okay t-i-l nut called tongue 397 00:32:30,504 --> 00:32:35,904 what books do you read to learn about milling down an oak tree dude you know it's 398 00:32:35,904 --> 00:32:42,584 it's the worst question you could have asked man the amish have spilled a lot of ink about 399 00:32:42,584 --> 00:32:48,084 woodworking man have you seen the meme about uh the amish and the mormons uh dude they're 400 00:32:48,084 --> 00:32:53,084 becoming majority population of the u.s i know we're we're gonna have to figure that one out 401 00:32:53,084 --> 00:32:58,084 are you not a big fan of mennonites or the land of day saints last line of defense this is the 402 00:32:58,084 --> 00:33:02,824 counterbalance yeah we need them my goodness 403 00:33:02,824 --> 00:33:08,804 yeah as a pennsylvanian i love the amish you know you got a writing terminal 404 00:33:08,804 --> 00:33:12,644 they're they come with their with their goods they're you know you know you know 405 00:33:12,644 --> 00:33:18,464 orbit systems technical journal is published by a mormon so okay that's good so you're in there 406 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:22,744 he's gonna give me with the amish he's gonna give me a you know a lockheed martin jet pack 407 00:33:22,744 --> 00:33:26,784 it's gonna be awesome how do we get the mormons into bitcoin though they have like a aren't they 408 00:33:26,784 --> 00:33:31,284 they have a trillion dollar sovereign wealth how is salt lake sorry amish how do we get the 409 00:33:31,284 --> 00:33:36,184 yeah they don't like electricity so wait hold on no how is salt lake city not the biggest orbit 410 00:33:36,184 --> 00:33:41,944 meetup uh what was that i didn't know that the more i'm not the amish have a trillion dollar 411 00:33:41,944 --> 00:33:48,244 sovereign well no the more mormons right what is is they own like 10 of florida seriously yes 412 00:33:48,244 --> 00:33:56,284 i'm asking what what is the salt lake meetup scene no idea how is it not the biggest meetup 413 00:33:56,284 --> 00:34:00,244 in the country could you imagine a pub key salt lake city it would be the worst you'd have to 414 00:34:00,244 --> 00:34:08,164 sell dirty sodas three two beer yeah i was just out in park city which is lovely like it's it's 415 00:34:08,164 --> 00:34:15,204 nice no they're very strict out there like so my wife and i just parked at um uh high west distillery 416 00:34:15,204 --> 00:34:20,244 and we just like are peppering the bartender with questions and like how everything works and 417 00:34:20,244 --> 00:34:24,544 all the rules and everything they have to go through they're okay because they don't really 418 00:34:24,544 --> 00:34:29,364 get poppins they make so much money but like a normal bar and like the amount of shit that they 419 00:34:29,364 --> 00:34:34,524 have to deal with with you know the lds like you know rules and regulations they have like they have 420 00:34:34,524 --> 00:34:39,484 the things on the bottles that like limit oh yeah 100 everything's measured poor yeah yeah we do 421 00:34:39,484 --> 00:34:46,764 free pour here in new york city oh there's a limiter yes in the in the bottle pour yeah wow 422 00:34:46,764 --> 00:34:52,844 in college we called those the sigep caps sigep oh sigep was very uh responsible about what they 423 00:34:52,844 --> 00:34:57,824 just kind of weenies you know just a little lame i've heard the term weenies in a while it's it's 424 00:34:57,824 --> 00:35:05,724 accurate for them it's apropos yeah that makes it sound like they they raped someone one time and 425 00:35:05,724 --> 00:35:12,104 got told by the administration they had to put those things on that's a that's a that is an 426 00:35:12,104 --> 00:35:17,744 interpretation i don't know if it's most people's interpretation of that comment i mean the 427 00:35:17,744 --> 00:35:23,504 can't publish any of this oh yeah we are we're all prepared 428 00:35:23,504 --> 00:35:32,784 i feel like what what frat would voluntarily impose that on themselves exactly except by 429 00:35:32,784 --> 00:35:36,544 the administration no it's just like no no they just like we're kind of weenies and they're like 430 00:35:36,544 --> 00:35:41,524 really candle their booze or maybe they were maybe they're they didn't have a lot of dues 431 00:35:41,524 --> 00:35:46,084 maybe they were trying to run lean you know no they save on cost so a fun story about texas sig 432 00:35:46,084 --> 00:35:53,204 SIGEP is their, everybody's familiar with Enron, right? So the Enron chief accounting officer 433 00:35:53,204 --> 00:36:00,224 at one point was the president of Texas SIGEP. And it just so happened that during his tenure 434 00:36:00,224 --> 00:36:05,944 as presidency, the SIGEP house burned to the ground and they got a big insurance payout 435 00:36:05,944 --> 00:36:12,384 and built a beautiful new mansion in West Campus that like vaulted them up a tier to like the tops 436 00:36:12,384 --> 00:36:14,184 of the fraternity leagues. 437 00:36:14,704 --> 00:36:16,464 And, you know, whatever, like 20 years later, 438 00:36:16,524 --> 00:36:18,764 the guy's in federal prison for, you know, 439 00:36:18,784 --> 00:36:19,744 the Enron Ponzi scheme. 440 00:36:20,424 --> 00:36:21,664 So he got out of the fire. 441 00:36:22,144 --> 00:36:25,044 Sigip got that good insurance money before they fell. 442 00:36:25,324 --> 00:36:25,704 They did. 443 00:36:25,844 --> 00:36:27,504 Did he get a pardon? 444 00:36:27,664 --> 00:36:28,264 Nobody knows. 445 00:36:28,784 --> 00:36:29,524 Nobody knows. 446 00:36:29,784 --> 00:36:30,604 Well, I don't know. 447 00:36:30,684 --> 00:36:32,504 I mean, this was like pre-internet. 448 00:36:32,664 --> 00:36:34,884 So, you know, something happened and it was just kind of like. 449 00:36:34,884 --> 00:36:35,224 Is there an Enron? 450 00:36:35,224 --> 00:36:35,744 What was the name? 451 00:36:36,584 --> 00:36:37,284 What was what name? 452 00:36:37,444 --> 00:36:38,104 The accountant. 453 00:36:38,584 --> 00:36:38,964 I don't know. 454 00:36:39,044 --> 00:36:39,684 You can Google it. 455 00:36:40,524 --> 00:36:41,364 Arthur Anderson? 456 00:36:41,724 --> 00:36:42,004 Yeah. 457 00:36:42,384 --> 00:36:49,064 yes skilling i think skilling was the ceo he definitely got a pardon i think it was w 458 00:36:49,064 --> 00:36:55,704 yeah yeah who's the enron of bitcoin enter on bitcoin 459 00:36:55,704 --> 00:37:03,524 is stretch a ponzi scheme i don't think so i don't really like i i really don't because 460 00:37:03,524 --> 00:37:07,324 it's so over collateralized coffee zilla just did a thing it's a ponzi scheme 461 00:37:07,324 --> 00:37:13,704 is it the swan ron what i mean i think it was i think it was ftx like i think we already had it 462 00:37:13,704 --> 00:37:18,364 and ron because ftx was like deliberately like they were taking people's bitcoin not counting 463 00:37:18,364 --> 00:37:23,564 as bitcoin selling it for solana and you know using customer deposits could you imagine how 464 00:37:23,564 --> 00:37:28,564 pissed off spf in jail is in jail right now oh my god he had seven percent of anthropic so 465 00:37:28,564 --> 00:37:35,284 it's like all you had it was almost crime season it was almost what it was almost crime season yeah 466 00:37:35,284 --> 00:37:37,924 He just had to stay alive for like six more months. 467 00:37:38,104 --> 00:37:38,244 Yeah. 468 00:37:39,444 --> 00:37:41,944 Where are the three arrows guys? 469 00:37:41,964 --> 00:37:43,224 No, they'd sold in the bankruptcy. 470 00:37:43,224 --> 00:37:44,384 You know, like I think. 471 00:37:44,624 --> 00:37:45,024 Offloaded it. 472 00:37:46,584 --> 00:37:49,144 It was Kyle and. 473 00:37:49,324 --> 00:37:50,104 Kyle went a little crazy. 474 00:37:50,224 --> 00:37:52,324 Kyle tried to make a free appearance. 475 00:37:52,564 --> 00:37:53,184 It was a little. 476 00:37:53,404 --> 00:37:54,684 Yeah, he was like. 477 00:37:54,724 --> 00:37:56,204 Shout out Philips Academy. 478 00:37:59,004 --> 00:38:00,784 Him and Tobacco. 479 00:38:01,224 --> 00:38:01,784 Sam Tobacco. 480 00:38:01,964 --> 00:38:02,144 Tobacco. 481 00:38:02,284 --> 00:38:02,424 Yeah. 482 00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:03,884 He skated. 483 00:38:03,884 --> 00:38:16,196 yeah he three got out yeah the entire like bought his boat and just i don i don maybe well i think the speculation was that he was the guy like he flipped informant first yeah and so that why he got out certainly 484 00:38:16,196 --> 00:38:20,916 looks like it certainly looks like it yeah because it's like on the boat he was he was the guy doing 485 00:38:20,916 --> 00:38:26,516 i think most of the trades so he was you would imagine probably aware of all of the crime and 486 00:38:26,516 --> 00:38:31,316 he wasn't very humble about it like on boats yeah what became of the tungsten cube i'm still waiting 487 00:38:31,316 --> 00:38:40,576 for the auction oh the the like massive one the 14 incher um this is still in a shipping container 488 00:38:40,576 --> 00:38:45,896 presumably somewhere we'd have to we'd have to ask nick carter that he he's probably the one 489 00:38:45,896 --> 00:38:53,096 that i i think i spoke to nick about this recently i don't i don't think he knows how 490 00:38:53,096 --> 00:38:58,216 heavy is a 14 inch tungsten cute dude it unironically i think wait i think it weighs two 491 00:38:58,216 --> 00:39:04,196 tons i think what i think it like weighs or half half a ton i think it weighs almost as much as a 492 00:39:04,196 --> 00:39:12,896 like a car unironically that's my favorite part of that story is how they just went to margaritaville 493 00:39:12,896 --> 00:39:18,796 and like that was their hangout yeah they ate like 10 pounds of shrimp every night or something 494 00:39:18,796 --> 00:39:22,676 like that what are you what are you having against the tiki aesthetic huh i don't have anything i 495 00:39:22,676 --> 00:39:27,096 just think it's really funny that they were to like margaritaville and in the bahamas and that 496 00:39:27,096 --> 00:39:31,456 was their like local hang that like there were a couple of times where there you have like a 497 00:39:31,456 --> 00:39:35,236 tourist or somebody that's just like what is happening here why are they making out of the 498 00:39:35,236 --> 00:39:39,196 bar on it that means yeah what are those patches on their back what do you think pub key is 499 00:39:39,196 --> 00:39:41,696 not that hopefully 500 00:39:41,696 --> 00:39:53,556 huh yeah like i said a small car all right there we go like a uh what is it a fit a fit 501 00:39:53,556 --> 00:39:58,996 it's probably heavier than a fit is it a honda fit honda fit is 1700 pounds 502 00:39:58,996 --> 00:40:01,476 will will stancil's car by the way 503 00:40:01,476 --> 00:40:10,776 man what a what a just profile encourage that fit that guy is i mean the will stancil show is one of 504 00:40:10,776 --> 00:40:15,816 the funniest things it's one of the funniest things to watch it is i mean all the ai i mean 505 00:40:15,816 --> 00:40:22,456 you're talking about ai slop dude that's not slop unironically ai ai generated content is a 506 00:40:22,456 --> 00:40:31,416 renaissance right now okay it is the there's there's nothing better i mean what you're gonna 507 00:40:32,136 --> 00:40:37,256 you're gonna pretend like anything made by hbo or netflix right now 508 00:40:37,256 --> 00:40:45,336 dude the iran lake passes surpasses the average anon ai slot oh dude the chud video the psyop 509 00:40:45,336 --> 00:40:52,416 anime psyop anime oh psyop anime is incredible who's making somebody's making like the chud 510 00:40:52,416 --> 00:40:58,256 series with the gab ai the most recent one where uh the waifu like brings him into the comic book 511 00:40:58,256 --> 00:41:04,036 and they run he saves her life that was a good one dude ai ron like the lego rap i mean ai ai 512 00:41:04,036 --> 00:41:13,296 has geopolitical ai generated shit talk it's completely saved it's it saved the canon frankly 513 00:41:13,296 --> 00:41:16,176 yeah i would say so canon with one n 514 00:41:16,176 --> 00:41:26,016 well i guess two n's instead of three the canon of the west love it yeah the canon of the western 515 00:41:26,016 --> 00:41:33,216 canon the city of new york city new york shout out noel cooman it feels good to be back 516 00:41:33,216 --> 00:41:37,636 back in new york thank you for uh having this bar it's been it's always fun coming here 517 00:41:37,636 --> 00:41:44,296 third place uh i i had two places for so long and i didn't know where else to go 518 00:41:44,296 --> 00:41:50,396 i need something more 519 00:41:50,396 --> 00:41:58,216 the place that's not working bartenders it's not not work it's not home something between 520 00:41:58,216 --> 00:42:03,116 you know it's a place where socioeconomic barriers melt away 521 00:42:03,116 --> 00:42:05,256 where you can have somebody that works in sanitation 522 00:42:05,256 --> 00:42:07,616 next to a private equity fund manager. 523 00:42:07,716 --> 00:42:08,176 It doesn't matter. 524 00:42:08,276 --> 00:42:09,256 They're going to talk about something. 525 00:42:09,356 --> 00:42:11,256 Instead of sports ball, we talk about Bitcoin here. 526 00:42:11,336 --> 00:42:11,976 It's really fun. 527 00:42:12,196 --> 00:42:12,696 It's really fun. 528 00:42:12,756 --> 00:42:13,296 How's it going to DC? 529 00:42:13,396 --> 00:42:13,936 What's the conversation? 530 00:42:14,036 --> 00:42:15,976 Didn't you ban Mr. G? 531 00:42:16,736 --> 00:42:18,156 No, I love Mr. G. 532 00:42:18,216 --> 00:42:18,716 What are you kidding? 533 00:42:18,856 --> 00:42:22,076 He was like one of our very first supporters. 534 00:42:22,076 --> 00:42:25,356 I thought someone named Mr. G got banned. 535 00:42:25,356 --> 00:42:26,436 No, of course not. 536 00:42:26,516 --> 00:42:27,396 Mr. G's the best. 537 00:42:27,636 --> 00:42:29,076 That's fake news. 538 00:42:29,236 --> 00:42:30,256 He's going really well. 539 00:42:30,496 --> 00:42:32,136 We're pretty fast out of the gate. 540 00:42:33,116 --> 00:42:38,716 down there i would say that pubkey is legitimately cool in dc which is kind of a low bar because dc 541 00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:44,796 uh very popular with the kato and stick fish little pond yeah that's like we have we have a 542 00:42:44,796 --> 00:42:51,996 really cool spot it's it's a it's a palace uh it's six times the size of pubkey nyc so we're about 543 00:42:51,996 --> 00:43:01,196 2 000 square feet here it's like 12 000 in dc um and it's not like we're not like super high touch 544 00:43:01,196 --> 00:43:06,556 with like reservations there's no minimum if you book a big group and stuff like that which causes 545 00:43:06,556 --> 00:43:11,276 a lot of people to use a space like that in the neighborhood that we're in like that that doesn't 546 00:43:11,276 --> 00:43:16,956 really exist so that's cultivated a lot of really cool just like folks that come out when's the 547 00:43:16,956 --> 00:43:23,196 restaurant opening restaurants opening soon restaurant was temporarily tabled for um reasons 548 00:43:23,196 --> 00:43:29,756 uh in early january that we're not going to get into on this podcast um but we were able to i 549 00:43:29,756 --> 00:43:36,456 I would say mitigate the fallout from that event pretty quickly because DC has been fast out of the gate, thankfully. 550 00:43:38,136 --> 00:43:41,036 And it's back on the table, the dimly lit chop house. 551 00:43:41,236 --> 00:43:41,456 Don't worry. 552 00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:44,616 They flash froze all the rats that they found. 553 00:43:45,056 --> 00:43:46,496 Well, the rats were a different story. 554 00:43:46,496 --> 00:43:48,796 We're not going to let the rats go to waste. 555 00:43:49,756 --> 00:43:50,676 Don't worry. 556 00:43:51,236 --> 00:43:52,396 Just a little rat. 557 00:43:52,796 --> 00:43:53,816 Just a little rat. 558 00:43:54,156 --> 00:43:54,616 Punky hot dogs. 559 00:43:54,756 --> 00:43:55,336 No rat. 560 00:43:55,656 --> 00:43:55,936 All right. 561 00:43:55,936 --> 00:43:56,676 Maybe a little rat. 562 00:43:58,156 --> 00:43:58,796 He's kidding. 563 00:43:59,036 --> 00:43:59,456 The flavor. 564 00:43:59,456 --> 00:44:02,776 you gotta have something to set yourself what's gonna have what's gonna happen in november when uh 565 00:44:02,776 --> 00:44:07,196 when the republicans lose lose majority you're gonna be look it's gonna be really interesting 566 00:44:07,196 --> 00:44:14,156 like we have i i rocked with elizabeth warren she said she said uh keep the irs direct direct pay 567 00:44:14,156 --> 00:44:21,076 open okay that's it that that's what it takes to buy you off like you you need to be able to just 568 00:44:21,076 --> 00:44:28,376 interface directly with your with your government the fact that it's intermediated by intuit is uh 569 00:44:28,376 --> 00:44:33,016 something that should be that's that's a whole bent and a half right there did you see uh 570 00:44:33,016 --> 00:44:37,636 bespacin came out and was like recommending the people yeah change your withholding yeah yeah 571 00:44:37,636 --> 00:44:40,456 stop withholding i don't really know what that means you're gonna get a you're gonna get a pay 572 00:44:40,456 --> 00:44:44,496 what did he mean by this i don't know but people are gonna do that and they're gonna get their tax 573 00:44:44,496 --> 00:44:49,916 bill next year and they're not gonna have the cash get whomped yeah like the worst right oh i 574 00:44:49,916 --> 00:44:55,756 listened to the treasury sector tree fuck they want 30k i don't have that no that's true you 575 00:44:55,756 --> 00:44:59,776 have more access you could show up at the white house and like wait to talk to the president like 576 00:44:59,776 --> 00:45:04,636 you know as soon as like teddy roosevelt finished like boxing his wife in the basement like you 577 00:45:04,636 --> 00:45:08,796 could actually just like talk to him about some like dispute you're having with a neighboring 578 00:45:08,796 --> 00:45:16,116 farmer or something that that's that's america don't you that's america yep don't you go acting 579 00:45:16,116 --> 00:45:23,596 funny about muscular christianity dude i love teddy big teddy roosevelt my favorite inder 580 00:45:23,596 --> 00:45:29,636 jackson guy he's it's one of the all one of the all times like he was great i mean but he was he 581 00:45:29,636 --> 00:45:34,936 was like no you're absolutely not fucking having a central bank on my watch yeah like what the man 582 00:45:34,936 --> 00:45:40,016 dude no right two of the best i ran into like his early life for the first time uh insane person 583 00:45:40,016 --> 00:45:44,256 who andrew jackson's yeah his like mom died early and then he went to the civil war like 14 584 00:45:44,256 --> 00:45:51,216 old hickory yeah that was his nickname yeah the uh battle of louisiana or new orleans 585 00:45:51,216 --> 00:45:56,956 led that was that the one that continued like the war was over but it continued for another like day 586 00:45:56,956 --> 00:46:04,016 or two he had a bullet in his lung his the latter half of his life and he dueled are we bringing 587 00:46:04,016 --> 00:46:09,776 duels back teddy roosevelt got hit too in a speech during during the speech and he finished 588 00:46:09,776 --> 00:46:15,636 his speech because he was high on cocaine really how much cocaine were they doing back then so that 589 00:46:15,636 --> 00:46:22,156 was the treatment for asthma he had very very bad asthma from a child um same and uh they used 590 00:46:22,156 --> 00:46:27,876 to treat it with cocaine and he got through that speech for a reason you can get shot in the chest 591 00:46:27,876 --> 00:46:36,596 and you can finish it's a miracle it still works that way all right there we go greg finishes on 592 00:46:36,596 --> 00:46:48,596 cocaine all the time uh bringing back duels would be interesting yeah it would be interesting 593 00:46:48,596 --> 00:46:53,976 particularly in congress although i feel like you know that's when we learned that like aoc is a 594 00:46:53,976 --> 00:47:03,936 super quick draw just like unstoppable yeah pistolera well for being um that is equality 595 00:47:03,936 --> 00:47:11,676 yeah it's a handgun that's true equality yeah yeah everybody's the same yeah behind the barrel 596 00:47:11,676 --> 00:47:14,736 yeah we get off the rails here thomas and i originally we're going to talk 597 00:47:14,736 --> 00:47:22,336 yeah you didn't you didn't have aoc's draw capability now that we're talking about it 598 00:47:22,336 --> 00:47:28,716 like i'm actually curious like i mean what do you think about that women's suffrage you know 599 00:47:28,716 --> 00:47:31,416 what's that what do you think about that 600 00:47:31,416 --> 00:47:39,176 how often do you talk about the longhouse theory on tfc so i hear a lot like explain the longhouse 601 00:47:39,176 --> 00:47:52,296 people you can't do that i mean look early in america most most of the men of letters 602 00:47:52,296 --> 00:47:59,356 were trying to actually trump up their native letters like people that can read people who 603 00:47:59,356 --> 00:48:05,576 are online okay the people who are online back then they they they were all they were all 604 00:48:05,576 --> 00:48:13,676 endeavoring to inflate their uh their native american indian heritage they were all boasting 605 00:48:13,676 --> 00:48:21,696 that they had you know one one quarter like they elizabeth warren lindy hello uh you know she she 606 00:48:21,696 --> 00:48:29,436 gets it they they were they were trying to do this and so one of the one of the features of 607 00:48:29,436 --> 00:48:36,076 that culture is that there were two places where people lived in their in their villages there was 608 00:48:36,076 --> 00:48:42,776 the hut where the warrior men lived and there was the longhouse that housed everyone else so 609 00:48:42,776 --> 00:48:48,656 are you saying the longhouse was the third place the long it was the political concentration of 610 00:48:48,656 --> 00:48:55,936 power the the long house was the cathedral to use to use the mold buggy and term to to trans 611 00:48:55,936 --> 00:49:01,616 to trans uh transmogrify the term there uh 612 00:49:01,616 --> 00:49:08,916 what does that answer your question sure 613 00:49:08,916 --> 00:49:18,436 so so in the long house so in the long house it's it's the rule of the women it's the rule 614 00:49:18,436 --> 00:49:28,516 of the old uh it's the rule of the you know the the non the non high t male warrior male 615 00:49:28,516 --> 00:49:36,316 so it's you you can be ruled by one or the other yeah and so that's the meme the longhouse meme 616 00:49:36,316 --> 00:49:42,476 that's that's that's the longhouse meme this is uh this is the the product so when so when thomas 617 00:49:42,476 --> 00:49:47,116 says something that's so utterly longhouse i just sometimes i'm taken aback 618 00:49:47,116 --> 00:49:50,196 i live with a lot of women 619 00:49:50,196 --> 00:50:02,396 um yeah and but you also have sort of like weak men in government that uh you know uh 620 00:50:02,396 --> 00:50:08,316 created a lot of testosterone's in free fall you have a lot of wars you have world war one 621 00:50:08,316 --> 00:50:16,416 world war two that these these desert storm can't forget that one people forget about that one the 622 00:50:16,416 --> 00:50:18,136 The other wars. 623 00:50:19,636 --> 00:50:20,076 Jesus. 624 00:50:21,276 --> 00:50:22,656 This really went off the rails. 625 00:50:23,036 --> 00:50:24,276 Was there anything else you wanted to hear? 626 00:50:24,276 --> 00:50:25,396 No, this has been perfect. 627 00:50:26,676 --> 00:50:28,956 This is a real palate cleanser for the timeline. 628 00:50:29,516 --> 00:50:29,956 Exactly. 629 00:50:30,436 --> 00:50:33,156 You know, if you just wanted to tune in to a podcast 630 00:50:33,156 --> 00:50:35,456 and just hear what the boys are buzzing about. 631 00:50:35,896 --> 00:50:37,696 This is the one. 632 00:50:37,956 --> 00:50:39,396 Welcome to PubKey. 633 00:50:40,016 --> 00:50:44,016 This is what's happening at PubKey on a Thursday afternoon. 634 00:50:44,016 --> 00:50:47,096 after I'm actually pretty on brand for us. 635 00:50:47,156 --> 00:50:48,936 This is kind of mostly like 636 00:50:48,936 --> 00:50:52,296 wide range of views. 637 00:50:52,516 --> 00:50:53,096 Thank you, gentlemen. 638 00:50:53,176 --> 00:50:53,576 Peace and love.