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So it's just our pictures and people will know.

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We're sitting down with Jessica Rose.

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You can see her name on the video right now if you're watching on YouTube or somewhere else.

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But I'm sitting down with Jessica Rose, who I was introduced to by our good friend who's been on the show a couple times now at this point, Kevin McLernan.

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And we've talked about the DNA contamination of the COVID vaccines.

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And after last time we spoke, he was adamant that I have to reach out with you and get you on the show.

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A bit of a delay. He introduced us in March. We're sitting here in the beginning of September.

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But I think it was a happy accident because there's a lot to talk about with everything going on.

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And so it's a good delay. There's nothing wrong with it.

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and that's why i reached out to you because i remember uh kevin introduced me to jessica

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to talk about this stuff and we have a lot going on on capitol hill it seems like

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rfk jr is actually getting his way we have a lot of people leaving the cdc uh we're finding out

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about uh the individuals who are at the cdc pushing the vaccine mandates during covid

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and i just wanted to get you on to get your perspective on what do you think's happening

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at that level right now? Do you think we're on the path toward some sort of unearthing of

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what actually happened and getting the real data out to the people?

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I do. It's been wild to watch. I mean, I don't know how long you've been watching all this stuff

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unfold, but I mean, I've been digging into the data, the adverse event data for five years now.

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So I mean, it's been a horror show since January 2021. And I'll elaborate on that in a second. But it's amazing that the feeling in the community of people I'm in, and it's a very broad international community of people from lawyers to doctors to teachers to vets, you know, like, and podcasters, everyone in between.

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there's a real feeling of, wow, you know, as in more than hope, it's actual surprise because,

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and it's not that I think people are surprised that we're starting to see actual movement on

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the subject matter of vaccine safety. It's that it's almost hard to believe, if you know what I

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mean, because we've, I don't even think we as a community of people who are digging into this all

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the time and who dedicate our lives to the science, know how bad it is, know how shielded the data is,

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know how many studies have actually been conducted by pharma companies themselves

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that reveal like catastrophic adverse events that we don't have access to, we don't know about.

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This hearing that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., as we all know, is the new secretary of HHS, recently, I would say, was subjected to was just, I mean, beyond revealing.

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The people, the small clips that I've seen of the entire session, which I haven't watched in full, were so astounding.

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I mean, there were so many ad hominem attacks. There were so many juvenile lash outs. It's just not something I would expect to see from a room full of heavy hitting professionals, senators and doctors.

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And you know what I mean? It's like I would expect it to be more civilized. So. It's not that it's not that I think it's a bad thing that it happened, that it's being revealed this way. I think it's actually very, very telling.

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as to like, why are people getting so defensive on the subject matter? Because Robert hasn't

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changed his position. All he's trying to do is get science-backed data to actually

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have the outcome of safe products on the market. That's all he's looking for.

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There's nothing to defend right there. He's looking out for kids. He's looking out for

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parents. He's looking out for American people in general. It's like, what is there to defend?

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So the reactions I saw from people just at this hearing were stunning. I mean,

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are they worried they're going to lose their handouts? Are they worried that

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some weird personal truth is going to come out about them, about what they've been defending and

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Why? I mean, it's it's bizarro world. But again, I'll go back to what I started with.

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It's it's beyond hopeful. It's it's actual movement forward, I think.

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And just one more thing about that. When when Trump you saw the post on X where Trump made the comment about Operation Warp Speed and he was demanding data from Pfizer.

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this is huge. If he stands by that, and if he actually follows through with demanding this data,

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me and Kevin and David Speaker up in Canada are probably going to have a paper

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published today, or maybe tomorrow, that's been, you know, in the peer review process for years,

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literally years now that reveals so many things about the modified mRNA products pertaining to

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DNA. I'll just call them contaminants. Trump needs to know this stuff. And I know that he's

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not a scientist, but he'll understand, you know, the word contaminant and he'll understand

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that, you know, from another point of view, these things are gene based therapies that didn't go

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through, you know, the proper channels to get approved, for example. So I think there's a real,

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there's a real reason to be optimistic after all of this time. That's what I would say.

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That's incredibly encouraging to hear because that is one of my biggest worries. And it was

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funny. I sent a tweet out earlier this week. I forget exactly what I said or what I was

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quote tweeting but it pertained to the covid vaccines and the potential um to actually find

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out what's happening and let the american people get access to the data and do their own research

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and somebody responded like why are you still on this um give it up novid was years ago it's like

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no we cannot no no no just let this fall to the wayside there there has to be uh some accountability

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which is desperately needed because of that.

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I said it before we hit record, but I'm a strong believer that what happened between

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late 2020 and up until today to some point with mandates are still being issued to people

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in certain positions or schools is a crime against humanity.

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And it's not only America.

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I mean, Europe's still pushing the COVID stuff.

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There are countries all over the world who are still very much fully caught up in all of this.

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There's this kind of resurgence of fear factoring going on.

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Oh, there's a new SARS strain and people are getting COVID.

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The one thing that is true from what people are saying that COVID is over is that it is.

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It was a long time ago from an immunological point of view.

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So it's wild to me that there's this dichotomy between the hundreds of millions of people who've suffered adverse events directly as a cause of these modified nucleoside modified mRNA injections.

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And the people who still have no awareness that there's a problem at all, it's really, it's wild because these two groups are real.

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The latter group are actually like, I think slowly, slowly there are people coming out of that group and starting to open their eyes as more of this becomes so-called mainstream, which is thanks to the new administration.

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Whether you like the people involved or not, it doesn't matter, man. They're moving the target. So you got to appreciate that after stagnancy for so long, decades, when you're talking about vaccine safety.

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um so just just to if people don't know what i was doing with the vaccine adverse event reporting

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system data set in in the u.s um i i started digging into this the day that the shots went

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the one-shot solution, the novel technologies involved.

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enormous numbers of people reporting adverse events,

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and serious ones too, because for people who don't know,

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there are two brand new technologies involved here.

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which are highly positively charged, which are murder to cells.

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and nucleotides, which are embedded therein.

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and other peer-reviewed publications, there's way too much DNA in there as well.

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It's not supposed to be there.

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And that comes with a boatload of problems that absolutely would be associated

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with disease and pathologies like cancer. So in January 2021, at the end of January, January 30th,

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there was a very large death signal in VAERS. And this is a passive reporting system. So

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under-reporting is actually the biggest problem with VAERS. A lot of people call it like a

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dumpster, which I find very offensive because every single one of these reports is a person

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who was injured because they took a vaccine and they matter. Every single person matters.

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system with multiple e-pages that if you don't complete in time, they kick you off and you have

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to start again. And then it has to get vetted after being given a temporary ID. And if that's

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successful with the limited number of people who are doing the vetting, you might get a permanent

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VAERS ID and your data point might be uploaded to the front end system. But that's not the end of it.

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It might also be removed, as I've also written a paper about with no explanation.

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So there was a big death signal in January at the end, which under normal circumstances and

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in the past historically would have prompted the immediate withdrawal of the product from the

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market these modified mRNA products from the market it's like 500 and something something

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reports of death within 30 days which is way that's a lot of people to dive at the hands

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or in the context of a product that's supposed to be you know helping people um and that's not

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That's just one. The number of adverse events, I'll give you some context here that are typically reported in the context of the flu vaccines, for example, like the number of types of adverse events of the 25,000 potential measure coded adverse events that you can use is about 5,000 something in total for, say, like a season, a flu season.

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And the number of types of adverse events that have been reported in the context of just the modified mRNA shots is over 14,000.

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So there's not just hundreds more, hundreds of thousands more adverse events, millions, in fact, being reported when you compare, like, in the context of the COVID shots versus the flu shots.

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There's so many more different types, which matches perfectly with what we're seeing in a clinical setting pertaining to the comprehensive nature of the damage.

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you've you've heard it all right like there's neurological damage there's immunological damage

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heart damage uh lymphatic or the the um the endocrine system being ruined uh birth defects

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fertility problems cancer i mean just name it and it's there and it's been there from the very

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the beginning so you can i have written papers about this and published them um you can find that

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on my sub stack if you're interested but the point in all of what i'm saying is that this

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this data um the VAERS data is accessible to the public which is why i chose it and it's been

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showing signals for a very very very long time and now we're up to about um last time i checked

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It was like 1.6 something million reports in the context of these shots to date.

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And again, just for context, the total number of adverse events reported in the past 30 years of data collection in VAERS for all vaccines combined has been about 39,000 on average.

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And in 2021 alone, just one year, there were over a million reports in the COVID shot context.

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So there's just like, there's no looking away from this.

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So I really glad going back to the first question about like what going on with CDC and even hopefully FDA and HHS is that those guys are the owners of this data set and it their job They tasked with the job of looking at this

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data, analyzing it, doing further follow-up causality assessments. And the CDC director

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at the time, Rochelle Walensky, is on record having said that there's no signal. There are a

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number of documented reports from the employees of these organizations making assured statements

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that there's no safety signals that we should be concerned about in VAERS, and it's absolute

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rubbish. And it's, by the way, everyone's heard about myocarditis now, but it's, that is just

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the tip of the iceberg. I'm glad that it's gotten a lot of attention, but on the other hand,

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it doesn't address all the neurological problems that people are seeing, which,

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depending on who you are, you might actually consider brain damage a little bit more,

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you know, hard to deal with and heart damage.

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but I've seen people in recent months tweeting that the amount of gray matter

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appearing in brain scans is increasing.

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And again, I haven't validated. I've just seen it.

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It could be fake news, but what is equivalent to like a lobotomy?

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has been found in some people.

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Sorry, go ahead.

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for the COVID vaccine in the VAERS database is astounding.

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That's 1.4 million that were actually made it

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through the process and were on the front end.

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Bingo. Bingo.

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And that's just fares.

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and and another i'm trying to remember everything you know the the most important points there are

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there's the uger system in europe there's the yellow card system in the uk there's fares and

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in the u.s there's caefis in canada there's you know and the thing about it is you have to comb

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really hard through the other data sets, which really aren't user-friendly. But when you do,

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the signals are exactly the same. And I don't mean similar. I mean, they're exactly the same

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numbers-wise and also systemic nature-wise of reports and age group-wise. Nobody's immune.

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all the herpes viruses yeah you get reactivation it's like something in these shots causes some

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some horrid level of immune dysfunction which just wreaks havoc on anything lurking if you're

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catching my drift um if you were if you have an autoimmune condition that was in you know that

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was stable how many people do i know how many people have i heard reported uh have that condition

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re-emerge um everything you can name autoimmunity is is a whole other subject matter which we should

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talk about um but yeah it's theirs is just one one data set and it's it's just um it's wild how

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So again, just by looking at that alone, I'm not saying, you know, like you can definitively say this, this or this.

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What I'm saying is the owners of the data cannot deny that there are massive safety signals in that data set.

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And they have to explain why.

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They have to.

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You know, this is people's lives on the line.

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And people were mandated to get these shots.

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So it's like, it is criminal.

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you know um yeah and that i mean in the lack of accountability the inability to recognize that

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these there are these glaring sort of alarm bells going off in the data sets i mean it doesn't do

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them any favors that they don't address it because it leads one to go down the path of

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sort of the being very pessimistic about the intentions of it all like it almost seems

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intentional it's like why are you trying to hide this because i remember when the bears

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conversation started popping up in mid 21 and persisted for the better part of a year and a

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half after that like people were just flippantly disregarding bears like oh it's not a it's not a

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reliable database there could be a lot of bunk data in there but up until that point it was

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sort of fused as a reliable database, but all of a sudden, because there was bad information

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about this particular vaccine, it suddenly became unreliable and something to not look at.

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you know, evade their own jobs. Yeah, it's crazy. The thing about it is, like, you,

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yeah it's just what you said they just had to do and what i just said they just had to do their

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jobs they just had to be a little bit transparent and honest um and you know it just ain't about

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public health there's no public or health uh with regard to anything that's happened in the last

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five years and probably way way longer before and very importantly for anyone who's trashing

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VAERS, go ahead, do what you want. But remember that this is a government database. It's a

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pharmacovigilance database, and it's designed as part of kind of the post-clinical trial phases.

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So you have animal trials, which we didn't have, and then you have phase one, two, three.

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Each phase increases in number and strength and power. They have to be sequential. They cannot

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be overlapped. All of these rules, by the way, were broken. And this process, this animal trial

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to phase one through three process for a conventional vaccine takes about 10 years.

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This is standard. So this was all squished into about six months. Many problems therein.

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And the phase four, which is what I like to think of it as, is the pharmacovigilance. You put

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the product, whatever it is you were trialing in the clinical trials into a very large number

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of people. In this case, it was like billions of people. And you have to monitor what's going on

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because the demographic is going to be much, much, much broader. You're going to have more ages.

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criteria in the trials, for example, people who smoke, people who are pregnant, people who have

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autoimmune conditions. It's the job of pharmacovigilance data collection to detect these

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signals. That's what VAERS is. It's actually really valuable. And I'm saying that from

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um a person who's been looking at it for years the data they're in is is so plentiful

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it's it's it's annoying that it takes so long to file a VAERS report but the the good part about it

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is that you can you can enter so much data you can enter um free text which is basically just

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the doctor's notes if it's you or if it's your gp or if it's a nurse practitioner or a parent or

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whatever, whoever is filing the report, you can write as much as you want about the real story of

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what happened. You can put your opinion in there. You can put your vaccine history. You can put

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everything. And if you're willing, you know, like I am to read through the free text, in addition to

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looking at the age data, in addition to looking at the state, in addition to looking at the dose,

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you will learn so much about what's going on. It's like reading between the lines.

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So I would argue with anybody who wants to say that VAERS isn't an invaluable data set.

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It really is.

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And was the COVID vaccine particularly that drove you to make sure that you were paying attention to VAERS?

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Or was this part of it?

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Oh, 100%. I didn't know about VAERS before any of this.

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The only reason I got into this actually was because I had just finished my second postdoc and enough was enough.

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I was ready to just surf for a long time.

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I'm a surfer, by the way.

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And I planned this big trip to Noosa.

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I was going to showcase my talent for the WSL.

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I had a spot in the Noosa Surf Festival.

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Everything was paid for, bought.

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um so you know what happened then um so i had to cancel my trip and being the uh the proactive

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person that i am i decided that i would start to paying attention to what was going on because i

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mean when i hear the word zoonotic pathogen my ears perk up because that's what i study i mean

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that's that's what i do um i'm not a data analyst by training it's just a part of all the degrees

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that I've done. I'm actually like, uh, an immunologist who studies viruses. Um, so yeah,

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I just, like I said, I started looking around. Uh, I was watching the Johns Hopkins death board

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every morning with my coffee, like, Oh my God. Um, and then about like seven or eight days later,

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I'm like, Oh Jesus, this is a joke. This isn't what people are thinking it is. Um, and it was

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just by listening to the language that was being used for example you know the new technology the

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one-shot deal you know injecting everyone during the pandemic all at once regardless of uh immunity

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natural immunity yeah then the the police forces like forcing you not to go outside and walk around

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it was like there's something else going on here so um yeah i just i decided to teach myself how to

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are and uh and i dove into VAERS like i said because it was uh freely accessible and easy to

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access so yeah i was you know people probably think i'm an anti-maxer but um i'm vaccinated

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out the yin yang i mean before all this started i was like if if i traveled like to a place where

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there were endemic viruses i was going to the doctor and saying what do i need to get injected

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with to be safe. I was that person. Um, and, uh, yeah, I remember getting pretty sick once

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from doing that. Um, but not anymore, man. Um, bueno shift a 180. I I'm, I'm never getting

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injected with anything again for as long as I live. It's, it's, and it's, it's, it's their fault.

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I'm sorry. It's like when, when you don't tell the truth and when you're not transparent with

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data and when you're you're pushing products to get them on the childhood schedule because you're

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free from liability and you make a billion dollars off that you know you kind of gotta

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side-eye people and think all right are you really concerned about my health or are you

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really concerned about your pocketbook and so yeah it's like i'm not sure that we're ever going to

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get to the point where we have a wonderful vaccine schedule that's actually ensuring

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the safety of the masses i'm not sure we're going to get there but um what i would hope

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is that all these can i swear yes you can swear okay all these bullshit vaccines that they're

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trying to inject newborns with like hep b um i i hope that all that stuff is just completely

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eliminated because those are just they're just money-making schemes there's no absolutely no

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medical or immunological reason to be doing that and when you combine the fact that there are so

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many adjuvants like aluminum there's so many byproducts dna contamination there's so many

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things you have to factor in and also pre-existing conditions you have to consider that there are

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risks as well as potential benefits when you vaccinate with anything.

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which is what I genuinely believe Robert is fighting for.

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He just needs to keep going.

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He really does. And it was, it was encouraging to see the move the Florida

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made earlier this week taking away mandates giving people i mean as a parent like i said we had our

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first child last week we had to deal with this uh in in the hospital they tried they what did they

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try i mean they tried they didn't age hep b was right there we were like no thank you um and vitamin

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k right vitamin k and uh they give like a an eye antibiotic in case the mother has gonorrhea too

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So we were very adamant, like, OK, my wife tested negative for hep B and doesn't have gonorrhea.

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So we're thinking, but they're skeptical.

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that's I think the thing that I'm most interested in getting to the bottom of is,

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was this just a money grab by big pharma and they were able to influence the politicians because of

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their lobbying efforts to really brute force this on the market um and then again because

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there hasn't been any accountability and they refuse to acknowledge data and confront the

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glaring problem in front of everybody you have people who are more conspiratorial are saying

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we're looking at a massive debt problem here in the united states looking at the social security

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liabilities and maybe there was a intentional culling of the population to bring down those

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expenses And I not saying that is the case but because there no accountability and no no sort of retrospective on what happened people are not forced but they naturally going to explore those those those potential intentions

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Yeah. And it's responsible, too, because where there aren't answers, we need to seek them, especially since there are so many bloody questions.

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I mean, God, I think that's all going to come.

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Like, I know a lot of people who have been doing some excellent work using various databases, who is pretty irrefutable.

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I mean, what we need to do now is bring these people and their data and their analyses to the right eyes.

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And that's what we're ripe for right now.

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uh that's that's one of the things that i i try to do because for some reason i know a lot of people

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and someone will say hey do you know this person and i'm like yeah can you get this i'm like yeah

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and you know it's just okay now that person has their eyes on this and they can see for themselves

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they can criticize it for themselves like what the data is like how authentic it is what the

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analysis so the amazing thing about that is that there there are so many people who are really

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really serious scientists medical doctors even lawyers like who are teaming up to to just

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really irrefutably present um data uh the again the problem has always been well not always but

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for that well yeah always for a long time now especially in the last five years is the you

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out the uh what would you call it censorship that's a good word um

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of of work and data um so that it doesn't make it to the right eyes uh i have this kind of infamous

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paper about myocarditis that i penned with peter mccullough right at the beginning that got um

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withdrawn or retracted, whatever you want to call it, without explanation. There was nothing

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written pertaining to plagiarism, bad data. You know, there was nothing wrong with the paper.

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They just said it was their prerogative not to publish it at the last minute. So it went dark

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for two years. And this paper, which has since been published and updated back in 2021, October,

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was when it was originally published, clearly demonstrated what we all kind of know right now,

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which is that there's a huge myocarditis signal in the context of the nucleoside modified products in kids,

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specifically like 12 to 15 year olds.

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are the number of kids that subsequently got injected by unknowing parents because this

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information wasn't readily available. So this is criminal. You know, people have been robbed

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of choice. Even if we are living in a world, an illusion of choices, whatever, you know,

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it's better to have some kind of choice. Like, give me the information. I can decide if you're

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crazy or not or if the information is good or bad and if i want to inject my kid with whatever

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or myself that that was taken from us so um yes it's uh all shall be revealed

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well it's it's i'm getting infuriated again like this this channel we got we got put in youtube

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timeout two or three times and i wouldn't even say we we and at that time like we know

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like a few months into the pandemic like okay particularly on youtube and at the time x you

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had to be very particular with how you worded things so we even we were careful but and two

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doctors come on we weren't even talking about the vaccines vaccines hadn't even been released yet

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this is like mid 2020 we're talking about ivermectin hydroxychloroquine and sort of

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preventative or we're using those as ways to treat covid early in the process and these are doctor

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the dr woods from wyoming he was 72 a nice humble gentle man just really describing what he was

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seeing on the ground in wyoming and how he's treating his patients and how it was successful

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And they ripped it off YouTube and told us to shut up and not talk about that.

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That's unbelievable.

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Like, that's just a quintessential example.

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Like, you know, normal, good doctors just doctoring, you know, like it's never not been the case.

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No matter what the CDC says, you know, they just have like recommendations that they can give.

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um it's never not been the case that the the call you know when it comes to illness disease whatever

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is made between the doctor and the patient that's another thing that was taken from us it's like all

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of a sudden it became the norm that doctors have to do take diktats from agents three-letter agencies

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with revolving door antics with big pharma you know who are just simply recommending recommending

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things like it's it's crazy it's crazy like it's uh and then you come out and then you come to find

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that some of them are literal satanist yeah right oh my god like i was at dinner with uh

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with a brownstone crew the other night and um jeffrey was saying you know like we used to joke

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you know back in the day that what what if the cdc is run by a bunch of uh satanists and and

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and now it's not a joke. The CDC is run by a bunch of, it's just crazy. Like what, what,

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what should be a joke is real. And it's like, for me, you know, these, these are also good.

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They're good flip points for, for I'll call them naysayers or non-believers in the truth.

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Cause it's like, listen, this isn't us. That that's them. Like they took that picture. These,

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these are their weird personal beliefs, which, you know, they're allowed to have, whatever.

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But it's my opinion that if you hold a certain position, you have to maintain a certain modicum

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of professionalism at all times, really, because you hold this position and you can never let

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your personal beliefs bleed into your job role or policy decisions.

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or you know it's like that that's what's happening it's like everything has become a weird

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like uh i personally believe this so i'm gonna impose that on everybody in america

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it's like what that's not how it works and nobody likes that um no and it's it's been

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incredibly detrimental to the nation on many levels from health perspective from a trust

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perspective and i i think the corruption of the system and how deep it goes is completely

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maddening going back to your point about the um the sort of questioning that rfk had in front

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of congressmen on the hill i mean it's it's crazy how how transparently corrupt it is because i

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I think I'm sure you saw, but there was like a leaked memo from big pharma lobbyists that that hit hit the tape last week to basically laid out the playbook for how they're going to combat.

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Yeah, I think his policies and try to drive a wedge between Maha.

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And they literally had a multimillion dollar campaign and they wanted to wanted to enact it on August 30th.

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And this is the same day that you have Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, many other politicians coming out the same wrote scripts via Twitter.

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And it's just very obvious that, oh, you guys are coordinating an attack to prevent this information from getting to the public.

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And Natalie, you just question like, what are you afraid of?

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Like, what do you think will happen to three letter agencies, big pharma, if we do get our hands on this information and successfully disseminate it to the public?

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Yeah, they're all going to be ruined.

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I mean, if it authentically comes out, which I think it will.

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I mean, you know, whether or not people are going to believe it is another question.

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And it's a good question because it's, you know what?

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It's so unbelievable.

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A lot of this stuff, like just from the amount of money that a lot of these people are pocketing.

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It's crazy.

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Like the, it must not be easy to be in the position they're in.

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And I'm a very empathetic person.

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And it's not that I feel compassionate toward these people, but I almost feel sad for them

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because like their entire playbook, like some people actually believe that some of the senators

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who are wailing on RFK believe what they're saying.

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And maybe they're right, but maybe they, they're just, they've been caught up so long in the machine that they're locked into, which is designed to protect, you know, um, the, the agencies and the companies that they're, they're working for and with like by contract.

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Like, my take is they probably know how bad what they're doing is, and they're just contractually obligated to protect, you know, the assets, I'll call them.

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The things that they're involved in maintaining, like the big pharma schedule, the vaccine schedule, maintaining new products, getting on the childhood vaccination schedule so that another company makes another billion per year with liability free.

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um yeah it's like i love trying to get into the head because you know it's important to do this

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to not only empathize but to try and get into the head of the people that you're trying to

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understand and also communicate with because i mean sometimes you can actually break through

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to someone who's who's really not been doing the right thing and and they're going to become the

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most powerful ally of all, right? But I found that I have an inability to really empathize

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with any of these people because they're just, they're strange to me. They're so chaotic and

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they're so emotional. And every time you have an emotionally based response to something that's

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really not, um, it shouldn't be like, if, if you actually believe that the data provided by the

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pharmaceutical companies is good and that the product is safe and effective, you don't need

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to get emotional. You don't need to be like, you know, almost in tears defending, um, a corporation.

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You don't need to do that. I can understand if you're defending children and you think,

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and you see that they're dying at the hands of a product, but, um, it's weird to me. It's like,

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okay that's what i started with i found the um the the number of outbursts was way too high

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yeah it was it was very it's like you're watching them flail at the last moment you know when when

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they know that they might have a chance to to keep the machine running they just i don't think they

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will, though. I think I saw a statistic today, I don't know if it's right, that said that about 70%

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of the American people are backing RFK, regardless of what we saw in that room, you know. So, and I

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think that's probably correct. I mean, because he's not looking to, you know, tell people what

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vaccines to take or to, you know, harm the American people. He's really just looking for

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to do things bloody well right,

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probably for the first time since this whole vaccine machine came upon us.

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00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:47,130
And it's all their fault that there's vaccine hesitancy

391
00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:50,390
and that everyone's starting to question the entire industry now,

392
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:51,690
not just the COVID shots.

393
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:52,530
It's their fault.

394
00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:58,070
Because, and the other thing is none of it is seeped in logic.

395
00:43:58,070 --> 00:44:03,070
To your point of, I don't understand why these people are vehemently,

396
00:44:03,570 --> 00:44:10,270
defending the big pharma industry and lashing out against others who may be vaccine hesitant,

397
00:44:10,270 --> 00:44:13,670
or it's like, okay, if these things are effective and they work and you're vaccinated,

398
00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:19,230
you don't have to worry about people who aren't. It's number one. And then number two, which is

399
00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:25,130
truly disgusting and literally leads me to believe that there are some demonic evil forces behind it

400
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:30,370
is like the fact that if you get one of these things on the childhood schedule, you are free

401
00:44:30,370 --> 00:44:36,810
of liability it's literally hiding behind children and putting them at risk to skirt

402
00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:43,670
liability which is absolutely abhorrent and disgusting money like money what is money

403
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:51,370
it's nothing you know it's you're absolutely right it's um it's gross i think the whole thing is gross

404
00:44:51,370 --> 00:44:58,830
and they're very good at making you sound like a crazy person or making others believe that

405
00:44:58,830 --> 00:45:03,510
you're a crazy person for questioning again these things which aren't seeped in logic like why

406
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:09,090
should everybody have to get vaccinated if you're very worried about it um and you are vaccinated

407
00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:14,050
you shouldn't be worried you should be vaccinated you should be protected and um all of a sudden

408
00:45:14,050 --> 00:45:21,710
these things are on a child schedule so we can't sue the pharmaceutical industry for any adverse

409
00:45:21,710 --> 00:45:28,750
effects of the products that they're making like it really it's literally insane and again

410
00:45:28,750 --> 00:45:31,370
and bordering on demonic.

411
00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:36,270
Yeah, this is the healthcare system.

412
00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:39,750
They want everyone to be disease-free.

413
00:45:41,450 --> 00:45:42,430
Oh, my.

414
00:45:42,970 --> 00:45:46,190
Yeah, it's wild.

415
00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:50,530
You know, the silver lining in all of this,

416
00:45:50,890 --> 00:46:06,895
my take on this has been the whole time they push the envelope way too far think that they one of my hypotheses has been that they were going to take this far much farther than it ever went

417
00:46:07,215 --> 00:46:11,975
You know, they were going to go full on digital ID. They were going to go full on, you know,

418
00:46:12,455 --> 00:46:18,595
green pass type shit everywhere in the world. Uh, they were going to go full on, you know,

419
00:46:18,595 --> 00:46:25,315
a 15 minute city type thing. Like you can't leave your area. They were going to go full on like

420
00:46:25,315 --> 00:46:32,595
quarantine towns. Um, I really believe that. I think the reason it didn't work was because

421
00:46:32,595 --> 00:46:39,475
they underestimated how many people were actually, I hate using this word, but awake to, um,

422
00:46:40,515 --> 00:46:47,515
to, or maybe a better way to say it is maintained common sense, because that's really all you need

423
00:46:47,515 --> 00:46:53,655
to have, like you kind of just have to revert to your, your, your childlike former self when,

424
00:46:53,775 --> 00:46:59,375
you know, when, when you, uh, when you got a cold or the flu or whatever, you just drank chicken

425
00:46:59,375 --> 00:47:05,375
soup and waited a couple of days and then you were fine. And I mean, for life, um, yeah, you know,

426
00:47:05,435 --> 00:47:13,455
it, it, it doesn't take much more than common sense, uh, to, to, to figure that out. And I,

427
00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:28,095
I think that without getting too philosophical, I think that actually requires at least a few moments of silence with yourself so that you can actually hear your own dialogue.

428
00:47:28,095 --> 00:47:39,455
And I think a lot of people drown themselves every day in way too much stimulus, you know, the doom scrolling and TVs and kids and blah.

429
00:47:39,755 --> 00:47:42,135
And maybe it could be that simple.

430
00:47:42,135 --> 00:47:47,875
Like they, they just haven't had the time to kind of take just a few moments and reflect.

431
00:47:49,315 --> 00:47:50,035
Like, yeah.

432
00:47:50,115 --> 00:47:50,275
Yeah.

433
00:47:50,355 --> 00:47:58,135
Why is it that if I got COVID or SARS, if I got exposed that I wouldn't be immune for life and wouldn't need the shot?

434
00:47:58,495 --> 00:48:04,055
Or why are they recommending seven shots after I got COVID?

435
00:48:04,815 --> 00:48:09,375
And how come I got COVID three times after I got three shots?

436
00:48:09,515 --> 00:48:10,055
You know what I mean?

437
00:48:10,055 --> 00:48:17,415
Like these, these very basic questions that I, you don't need an immunology degree to, to know these truths.

438
00:48:17,415 --> 00:48:19,735
They're just kind of the stuff that we grew up with.

439
00:48:19,815 --> 00:48:21,615
I think, I mean, I grew up with that.

440
00:48:23,175 --> 00:48:23,795
Well, yeah.

441
00:48:23,895 --> 00:48:32,415
And I mean, that's what really drove me to begin being immediately out of the gate, skeptical of the COVID vaccines.

442
00:48:32,415 --> 00:48:38,435
vaccines because my whole life I was told led to believe that vaccines are safe and effective

443
00:48:38,435 --> 00:48:43,075
because they had been tested for a decade before they hit the market and then all of a sudden

444
00:48:43,075 --> 00:48:48,235
in 2020 Operation Warp Speed comes we're going to have a new one in 11 months and you're all

445
00:48:48,235 --> 00:48:51,915
going to need to get it I was like wait a second that literally goes against everything I've ever

446
00:48:51,915 --> 00:49:00,775
learned about vaccines and the degree of care that has been taken historically to make sure

447
00:49:00,775 --> 00:49:05,895
that they're safe and effective before they hit the market and so as soon as that was how they

448
00:49:05,895 --> 00:49:10,195
were being positioned i was like i'm out i'm not getting these like this is this is not how you're

449
00:49:10,195 --> 00:49:16,335
supposed to test vaccines from when i've been told my life like like that infamous clip that i reposted

450
00:49:16,335 --> 00:49:22,035
the other day with the guy on the porch with fauci and the crew outside and he's like you you remember

451
00:49:22,035 --> 00:49:26,095
this one he's like questioning them he's like why are you trying like there's something else going on

452
00:49:26,095 --> 00:49:27,275
He's so brilliant.

453
00:49:27,435 --> 00:49:32,915
I mean, the guy needs honorary doctorates for every subject matter

454
00:49:32,915 --> 00:49:36,075
for just that short spiel he did alone.

455
00:49:36,215 --> 00:49:37,155
He's brilliant.

456
00:49:37,375 --> 00:49:40,915
Yeah, Fauci thought he was going into the hood and was just going to hoodwink people.

457
00:49:40,935 --> 00:49:45,155
He's looking up like, we're not going to get through to the sky, guys.

458
00:49:46,575 --> 00:49:47,735
It's so funny.

459
00:49:48,375 --> 00:49:49,975
Oh, I love that clip.

460
00:49:50,115 --> 00:49:51,815
It's just, it's inspiring.

461
00:49:51,815 --> 00:49:58,855
well the the covet era had the equivalent amount like clips like that where it's like yes people

462
00:49:58,855 --> 00:50:03,835
get it like there is hope for humanity but then on the other side like the the clip of the police

463
00:50:03,835 --> 00:50:08,915
boat getting the paddleboarder in san diego who was by himself and taking him off the beach the

464
00:50:08,915 --> 00:50:14,635
clip of um who was the mayor at the time i forget his name the mayor of new york at the time eating

465
00:50:14,635 --> 00:50:19,275
shake shack and saying you should get your shot you'll get a free fries and a burger at shake

466
00:50:19,275 --> 00:50:25,595
shack and i always want to cry when i see that and i don't know why i just find it so sad it's

467
00:50:25,595 --> 00:50:31,235
de blasio that's his name no they thought we were that stupid he's like this fat slobs eating fries

468
00:50:31,235 --> 00:50:35,595
and a burger and you can have this too if you go get your shot you'll get a free burger and fries

469
00:50:35,595 --> 00:50:44,475
mess up just have tracked for like a day mess up your life free for a lifetime yay yeah yeah

470
00:50:44,475 --> 00:50:49,695
then the super cuts of it's safe and effective this is for your safety it's like it was truly

471
00:50:49,695 --> 00:50:55,455
an insane period of time in the sense that it felt like much of the world was under some sort

472
00:50:55,455 --> 00:51:03,935
of trance i think it still is you think so yeah i see it and i hear it still every day i mean it's

473
00:51:03,935 --> 00:51:09,875
like uh you know i'm i'm in a different part of the world right now and it's it's always interesting

474
00:51:09,875 --> 00:51:17,075
to watch um people watch and just just to see the normal behavior of the average people and

475
00:51:17,075 --> 00:51:23,655
lots of masks around still and i'm like outside and i'm like i don't even know what to say like

476
00:51:23,655 --> 00:51:31,395
um you know like there there are people with uh with loaded shots at airports still trying

477
00:51:31,395 --> 00:51:37,075
to inject people and they come off of their planes there's still like uh clinics everywhere

478
00:51:37,075 --> 00:51:44,015
offering free COVID flu shots. I mean, it's still going. And I mean, if you're, um,

479
00:51:44,635 --> 00:51:50,315
I would dare say that there's a lot of vulnerable souls right now because a lot of us have just been

480
00:51:50,315 --> 00:51:58,235
like pummeled, uh, physically and financially and mentally. Um, a lot of the places I've been in the

481
00:51:58,235 --> 00:52:03,395
world over the last few years, um, they're just not the same as they used to be. They haven't

482
00:52:03,395 --> 00:52:08,535
recovered and they won't. It's like the, the bludgeoning of the middle class, uh, was part

483
00:52:08,535 --> 00:52:16,275
of this whole thing. Um, yeah, it's, it's sad. And I, you know, I'm, I'm very optimistic. Don't get

484
00:52:16,275 --> 00:52:25,795
me wrong, but it's, it's still very evident that, um, we, we have a lot of people who don't feel

485
00:52:25,795 --> 00:52:33,675
as optimistic as I do, uh, who are very much still recovering in some way, uh, whether it was from

486
00:52:33,675 --> 00:52:41,815
damage from the shots or economically, um, from, from this, uh, this crap shoot that they threw on

487
00:52:41,815 --> 00:52:46,555
us. Um, yeah. And they're going to try again. And there's no doubt, like there's, there's going to

488
00:52:46,555 --> 00:52:52,475
be something else coming down the pipeline. I have no doubt about that. Um, I just wanted to

489
00:52:52,475 --> 00:52:58,515
mention because you were talking about the uh your response to the to hearing about the new tech not

490
00:52:58,515 --> 00:53:04,955
being tested uh for the right amount of time and you're absolutely right um these lipid nanoparticles

491
00:53:04,955 --> 00:53:13,155
uh these are the fat bubbles that are meant to spherically in case the uh negatively charged

492
00:53:13,155 --> 00:53:20,355
genetic material supposed to be only nucleoside modified rna but there's also dna and there's

493
00:53:20,355 --> 00:53:28,895
also hybrids most likely of DNA RNA. These things have been researched for like 20 years. A lot of

494
00:53:28,895 --> 00:53:36,115
people don't know this, which is why you'll hear some of these captured people often saying,

495
00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:42,575
this isn't new. This has been being tested for decades. It's not false. The lipid nanoparticles

496
00:53:42,575 --> 00:53:52,615
have been being looked at on the bench and maybe in some animal models with horrible results for

497
00:53:52,615 --> 00:53:57,615
two decades. And the reason why it's been two decades is the same reason why we still don't

498
00:53:57,615 --> 00:54:04,255
have, it's an analogy, a vaccine against HIV. It's because they don't work. It's not safe.

499
00:54:04,255 --> 00:54:33,695
You know, it's, that's why. So the, the clincher, the turning point was the use of, uh, or the development of an ionizable cationic lipid. Like I mentioned, these positively charged, uh, lipids, which, you know, they, they bind and snuggle up the, uh, the negatively charged nucleic acids, um, that, uh, they become active at a certain pH.

500
00:54:33,695 --> 00:54:39,295
like a low pH. So this was the, the, you know, what I like to think is the turning point for

501
00:54:39,295 --> 00:54:46,255
the technology. It's like, Hey, now, now we can make them, uh, available, um, in their task to

502
00:54:46,255 --> 00:54:52,055
deliver nucleic acids in, in a, in the right context, like only, only when they get into

503
00:54:52,055 --> 00:54:57,695
endosomes of cells, you know, when the endosome matures and the pH gets lower, will it release

504
00:54:57,695 --> 00:55:06,655
the mRNA or whatever it is into the cytosol of the cell. Yay! But there's so many things. First

505
00:55:06,655 --> 00:55:12,555
of all, the safety data sheet on these things, the products used by Moderna and Pfizer,

506
00:55:13,375 --> 00:55:21,555
the cationic lipids are, pardon me, I think it's ALCO315, forgive me if I got the numbers wrong,

507
00:55:21,555 --> 00:55:28,275
and sm102 for moderna and the safety data sheets for both of these say don't use these in animals

508
00:55:28,275 --> 00:55:37,215
or people um that hasn't changed so you know there's that and these lipid nanoparticles are

509
00:55:37,215 --> 00:55:41,695
like slippery little bastards and they're supposed to be about 100 nanometers across

510
00:55:41,695 --> 00:55:50,495
which is pretty small that defines a nanoparticle so they this this lie it's just a lie that the

511
00:55:50,495 --> 00:55:56,215
people told about the, you know, these things staying at the injection site, like a normal

512
00:55:56,215 --> 00:56:02,455
vaccine, that the contents of a needle from a normal vaccine would do, just stay in the

513
00:56:02,455 --> 00:56:03,415
muscle cells, whatever.

514
00:56:04,675 --> 00:56:05,995
That's not the case here.

515
00:56:06,195 --> 00:56:08,075
These little thought bubbles go everywhere.

516
00:56:08,715 --> 00:56:09,875
This is known now.

517
00:56:10,135 --> 00:56:15,255
We got FOIA requested data from pharmacokinetic studies that prove this demonstrably.

518
00:56:15,455 --> 00:56:16,395
They go everywhere.

519
00:56:16,395 --> 00:56:20,255
And we already know that anyway, because of the systemic nature of the adverse events.

520
00:56:20,495 --> 00:56:39,995
You know, they go to the brain, the heart, the kidney. This is all published data. We know. And they knew way before, because there were published studies like 12 years ago, that show completely without a shadow of a doubt, that these exact same lipid nanoparticles traffic to the ovaries.

521
00:56:39,995 --> 00:56:46,035
there's a there's a paper that i've presented in many uh conferences that that shows this

522
00:56:46,035 --> 00:56:53,115
they knew there this is not a secret so the fact that there there was ever a lie that was constructed

523
00:56:53,115 --> 00:56:58,215
to convince the public that you don't have to worry about these things going everywhere

524
00:56:58,215 --> 00:57:03,135
you don't have to worry about dna you know you don't have to worry about the stuff getting into

525
00:57:03,135 --> 00:57:09,175
your dna because it's mrna you know it's it's solid mrna it's just going to get translated into

526
00:57:09,175 --> 00:57:16,335
protein you're fine um these these are two of the biggest lies surrounding these things and

527
00:57:16,335 --> 00:57:29,195
if people kind of yeah if if they had known um even a little bit earlier the truths of these um

528
00:57:29,195 --> 00:57:34,835
these technologies but from both sides the lnps and the nucleic acids like

529
00:57:34,835 --> 00:57:41,775
they would have been like hell's no like imagine instead of like calling these things vaccines

530
00:57:41,775 --> 00:57:45,295
they called them gene-based therapies how many people do you think would have gone for them

531
00:57:45,855 --> 00:57:54,055
hidden a material amount lower right very small percentage of the people actually did

532
00:57:54,055 --> 00:58:00,155
because they are like they're delivering nucleic acids foreign nucleic acids that are designed to

533
00:58:00,155 --> 00:58:04,595
be translated into foreign proteins, which are really cytotoxic. That's all. That's another

534
00:58:04,595 --> 00:58:14,275
problem altogether. But like, wow, it's just, um, it's remarkable how they, they lie and they fall

535
00:58:14,275 --> 00:58:21,155
back on, uh, you know, things that aren't necessarily false. For example, these things

536
00:58:21,155 --> 00:58:27,575
aren't technically gene therapies because they're not targeted to modify or remove a gene using

537
00:58:27,575 --> 00:58:37,555
other technology like CRISPR-Cas that we know of um so technically according to the definition

538
00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:45,395
which they can change on a on a dime um they're not that so from a legal standpoint i'm just

539
00:58:45,395 --> 00:58:50,475
saying like if you wanted to argue that these things were were gene therapies you might lose

540
00:58:50,475 --> 00:58:58,175
but there's there's actually a case that i'm involved in um launched in australia to actually

541
00:58:58,175 --> 00:59:04,455
categorically prove that these things are gene therapies because of the presence of this sv40

542
00:59:04,455 --> 00:59:10,835
thing did you and kevin talk about that you did right yeah we talked about sv40 when the last

543
00:59:10,835 --> 00:59:16,855
time kevin and i caught up we talked about the pre-print japanese study that wound up getting

544
00:59:16,855 --> 00:59:23,255
pulled between the time we recorded and posted the episode, but they essentially highlight SV40

545
00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:29,575
exists. And I think the most damning evidence of that study was that the distribution of cancer

546
00:59:29,575 --> 00:59:38,015
types shifted dramatically pre and post COVID with post COVID cancer types, um, the materializing

547
00:59:38,015 --> 00:59:44,355
the parts of the body where these proteins congregated from what I recall. Yeah. So, um,

548
00:59:44,355 --> 00:59:47,115
SV-40 is a gene therapy tool.

549
00:59:47,935 --> 00:59:49,455
This is published and known.

550
00:59:49,695 --> 00:59:54,335
It traffics stuff to the nucleus as a bench tool.

551
00:59:55,835 --> 01:00:01,015
David Dean is the guy's work you want to look up to verify that.

552
01:00:02,435 --> 01:00:09,055
So, yeah, that's what our paper that hopefully will be published today or tomorrow presents.

553
01:00:09,055 --> 01:00:17,475
of the vials that we tested, the Pfizer and the Moderna, we found shit tons of SV40 in Pfizer

554
01:00:17,475 --> 01:00:24,335
products. Now, SV40 is a virus, but we're not talking about the virus. Just to be clear,

555
01:00:24,415 --> 01:00:28,275
we're talking about promoter enhancer regions, which are little short segments

556
01:00:28,275 --> 01:00:38,695
from the virus that are used as tools in biotech settings. So the question becomes,

557
01:00:39,055 --> 01:00:41,795
What the hell are they doing there?

558
01:00:42,415 --> 01:00:45,155
Why the hell weren't they disclosed?

559
01:00:45,855 --> 01:00:56,335
Why the hell is the only disclosed Pfizer plasmid map missing the SP40 gene fragment?

560
01:00:57,535 --> 01:01:00,195
They would have had to have deleted it, according to Kevin.

561
01:01:00,195 --> 01:01:18,635
Why is it that when we presented this data and got FOIA requested data back, that many health agencies, including Health Canada, FDA, and the TGA know, they're very well aware that this SV-4A is a good one?

562
01:01:18,672 --> 01:01:26,972
is in the shot vials, they're in the vials, that they are completely undermining the potential

563
01:01:26,972 --> 01:01:34,252
danger associated with this. And the fact that something had to go shit bonkers wrong

564
01:01:34,252 --> 01:01:39,752
in production and upscaling, and we can talk about that too, because it's in our paper,

565
01:01:40,532 --> 01:01:47,032
in order for us to be finding such high levels of, I'll call it contaminating DNA in the vials,

566
01:01:47,032 --> 01:01:54,872
to include sv40 which is an active mammalian promoter so i want to talk about that actually

567
01:01:54,872 --> 01:01:58,332
if you don't mind i just want to mention it because it's a big part of our paper um

568
01:01:58,332 --> 01:02:05,372
people people need to know this too so we are we had our clinical trials right this pfizer i'll

569
01:02:05,372 --> 01:02:11,192
just use pfizer because they like picking on them i'm sorry we'll dare not i'll choose you next um

570
01:02:11,192 --> 01:02:16,332
they had phase one through three trials uh minimal number of people i don't know like

571
01:02:16,332 --> 01:02:23,672
30 000 they had a drug arm they had a placebo arm god knows what the placebo actually was it's

572
01:02:23,672 --> 01:02:30,552
supposed to be saline but who knows um and incidentally if you don't know this part

573
01:02:30,552 --> 01:02:36,572
they unblinded the placebo participants in the phase three trial and they injected most of them

574
01:02:36,572 --> 01:02:45,232
So we lost the placebo arm of this RCT trial, the randomized controlled placebo controlled trial, which means we have no data that's usable.

575
01:02:45,972 --> 01:02:55,412
This is admitted by, I think her name is Rachel Ziyong, who were Cheung, in one of the VRBPAC ACIP meetings that I attended.

576
01:02:55,412 --> 01:03:05,072
anyway. So those products that were injected into people as part of those clinical trials

577
01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:11,512
were different from the commercial products that were injected into the world population.

578
01:03:11,932 --> 01:03:17,172
They were different in the way that they were manufactured. So when they had just a small

579
01:03:17,172 --> 01:03:24,272
number of people, tens of thousands, for example, in cohort groups to inject with these products,

580
01:03:24,272 --> 01:03:34,832
They were using PCR to amplify the DNA as the source material for the in vitro transcription reaction to produce the nucleoside modified RNA.

581
01:03:35,012 --> 01:03:35,652
OK, so it was.

582
01:03:37,192 --> 01:03:47,472
Cleaner, let's call it, OK, it was less likely to pose a risk in terms of contaminants from production.

583
01:03:47,472 --> 01:04:03,172
And the reason I say that is because when they needed to upscale, when they got the green light, the UA, whatever you want to call it, and they needed billions of doses of this stuff, they needed a faster and cheaper way to make it, right?

584
01:04:03,592 --> 01:04:05,392
Because what they were doing wasn't efficient.

585
01:04:05,592 --> 01:04:06,192
It wasn't fast.

586
01:04:06,252 --> 01:04:06,892
It wasn't cheap.

587
01:04:07,152 --> 01:04:08,212
Cheap being the main one.

588
01:04:08,212 --> 01:04:21,512
so the upscaling of the uh the coating material was made using uh an e coli plasmid system so

589
01:04:21,512 --> 01:04:26,732
e coli bacterias you know everybody knows what that is we use it in lab settings a lot for a lot

590
01:04:26,732 --> 01:04:31,872
of different things and the reason we do that is because it's like biosafety level two it's it's

591
01:04:31,872 --> 01:04:37,292
it's not that dangerous and it grows really fast and it's cheap as hell.

592
01:04:37,292 --> 01:04:42,932
You just give it some sugar and some warmth and some carbon dioxide and some

593
01:04:42,932 --> 01:04:47,072
luria broth and you just shake it up and it doubles every 20 minutes.

594
01:04:48,032 --> 01:04:50,512
And whatever is inside there in terms of plasmids,

595
01:04:50,552 --> 01:04:55,472
which you can introduce, it will bring with it.

596
01:04:55,792 --> 01:04:58,072
Basically I'm, I'm, I'm simplifying it up, but.

597
01:04:58,072 --> 01:05:05,352
so you can insert a gene like a spike gene into the plasmid you can introduce it to the bacteria

598
01:05:05,352 --> 01:05:10,692
the bacteria will double and it will carry hypothetically you will carry this this plasmid

599
01:05:10,692 --> 01:05:17,432
in the genes so you end up basically with a shit ton of dna for doing nothing at the end of the

600
01:05:17,432 --> 01:05:22,172
process and then all you have to do is your in vitro transcription reaction to get your rna

601
01:05:22,172 --> 01:05:27,052
Right. Sub in your pseudouridine for your uridine.

602
01:05:27,632 --> 01:05:34,312
And then what you're supposed to do is get rid of the DNA because you don't want to carry that over.

603
01:05:34,412 --> 01:05:42,232
Right. You don't want to end up having that wrapped up in your little fat package along with your your only mRNA,

604
01:05:42,232 --> 01:05:45,072
because that's going to cause all sorts of problems. Right.

605
01:05:45,072 --> 01:05:50,992
And you definitely don't want byproducts from the U. coli membrane like lipopolysaccharide,

606
01:05:50,992 --> 01:05:56,192
which can cause anaphylactic shock if you inject that into people.

607
01:05:57,072 --> 01:05:59,352
I mean, where have I heard that happening?

608
01:06:01,512 --> 01:06:07,192
So what our paper shows, everybody should read this when it comes out,

609
01:06:08,372 --> 01:06:11,252
is tons of DNA.

610
01:06:11,392 --> 01:06:16,232
And the reason we think it's in there is because the enzyme that they're supposed to use,

611
01:06:16,232 --> 01:06:23,112
which degrades DNA was not effective at the end of their manufacturing process to clean up the mRNA.

612
01:06:24,112 --> 01:06:29,592
And it left behind little tiny bits of DNA because it wasn't effective.

613
01:06:30,232 --> 01:06:37,092
And also, we think that DNA mRNA hybrids formed, which the enzyme couldn't act on anyway.

614
01:06:39,112 --> 01:06:43,772
They are supposed to do all of these cleaning procedures at the end.

615
01:06:43,772 --> 01:06:48,352
And more importantly, they're supposed to test the purity of the product at the end.

616
01:06:48,952 --> 01:06:54,992
And so the only conclusion that you can draw, and this isn't speculation, the only conclusion

617
01:06:54,992 --> 01:06:59,572
you can draw, because there is DNA in the vials, is that they didn't do this.

618
01:07:00,632 --> 01:07:05,412
The enzyme didn't work, and they knew, and we know that they knew because we have those

619
01:07:05,412 --> 01:07:06,192
documents too.

620
01:07:06,292 --> 01:07:09,412
They've been trying to mitigate this DNA problem since 2021 May.

621
01:07:09,412 --> 01:07:15,952
um and they just you know they were trying to like oh shit you know we got this problem we gotta

622
01:07:15,952 --> 01:07:21,392
we gotta figure this out somehow um maybe that's why they just kept making new lots

623
01:07:21,392 --> 01:07:27,352
and maybe that's why as some people say the lots got less deadly as time went on because

624
01:07:27,352 --> 01:07:36,012
maybe they were mitigating the problem behind the scenes so yeah there's dna um in the vials

625
01:07:36,012 --> 01:07:38,672
every single one that we tested.

626
01:07:39,172 --> 01:07:43,612
There is SV40 in every single one of the Pfizer vials we tested.

627
01:07:44,292 --> 01:07:45,912
There's all sorts of other junk.

628
01:07:46,172 --> 01:07:49,092
There's all sorts of tiny little bits of DNA

629
01:07:49,092 --> 01:07:52,392
that you can only detect if you use certain quantification methods,

630
01:07:52,632 --> 01:07:53,892
not qPCR.

631
01:07:56,152 --> 01:08:00,372
And Kevin is the go-to on this.

632
01:08:00,412 --> 01:08:01,552
This is his line of work.

633
01:08:01,552 --> 01:08:10,892
But I can tell you that you actually don't need integration of these foreign bits of DNA, which you probably are getting, but we have yet to prove that.

634
01:08:11,172 --> 01:08:14,392
But you don't need it to induce cancer pathways.

635
01:08:14,672 --> 01:08:17,592
All you need is the introduction to the cytosol of a human cell.

636
01:08:17,972 --> 01:08:23,012
And you can instigate the C-gas sting pathway, for example, which is one of these cancer pathways.

637
01:08:24,912 --> 01:08:29,112
Kevin can tell you all sorts about P53 interruption, too.

638
01:08:29,112 --> 01:08:41,992
This is the guardian of the genome. It's a tumor suppressor gene, which is really important to us to be functioning properly and not impaired and not bound and all these things.

639
01:08:41,992 --> 01:08:48,412
It needs to be working properly as a tumor suppressor in order to keep us cancer free.

640
01:08:49,932 --> 01:08:56,572
You know, we're cancering all the time. Kevin says that all the time, and I completely agree we are.

641
01:08:56,572 --> 01:09:03,072
but we have systems uh we have these gorgeous immune systems at play at work and if they're

642
01:09:03,072 --> 01:09:09,832
optimally functioning we just don't develop tumors you know we clear cancer cells all the time or

643
01:09:09,832 --> 01:09:17,392
whatever so this leads back to what i was saying before about uh you know since we are cancering

644
01:09:17,392 --> 01:09:28,112
all the time this seems like the the the biggest um red flag i'll call it in terms of cancer

645
01:09:28,112 --> 01:09:35,052
induction this dna stuff because of the potential for insertional mutagenesis having little bits of

646
01:09:35,052 --> 01:09:42,612
this dna integrated into the genomes of cells interfering with uh oncogenes you know the role

647
01:09:42,612 --> 01:09:49,632
of sd-40 to shuttle shit to the nuclei whatever like there's so many things that could throw off

648
01:09:49,632 --> 01:09:57,232
the balance the gorgeous balance of the human immune system in terms of cancer onset that are

649
01:09:57,232 --> 01:10:04,532
implicated here that you you you are so criminally negligent as a regulator if you if you know this

650
01:10:04,532 --> 01:10:12,012
and you turn away and you say no levels aren't high in this and on that subject matter i'll say

651
01:10:12,012 --> 01:10:14,852
one more thing from the paper.

652
01:10:14,852 --> 01:10:30,197
The levels that we measured were way over the EMA limits which is 10 nanograms nanograms per something i not going to quote myself to get the units wrong um but even though they are higher

653
01:10:30,197 --> 01:10:38,617
this is kind of irrelevant because that that scale that cutoff is based on naked dna it's

654
01:10:38,617 --> 01:10:43,877
not based on lipid nanoparticle delivered dna it's a totally different kettle of fish

655
01:10:43,877 --> 01:10:50,077
and anybody who remarks about the DNA being below acceptable levels

656
01:10:50,077 --> 01:10:57,497
needs to acknowledge that that acceptable level is way too high in this context.

657
01:10:57,817 --> 01:11:06,257
And if you even have like a few fragments of SV40, for example, interfering with a critical cell,

658
01:11:07,697 --> 01:11:13,737
you know, you can't say definitively one way or the other if that's going to wreak havoc or not.

659
01:11:13,877 --> 01:11:22,897
What we got to do is get to the bench and start sequencing tumors like Kevin's doing and getting to the bottom of this.

660
01:11:22,897 --> 01:11:32,417
Because if we do have some kind of cancer existential crisis, like the Japanese paper was demonstrating, as everyone's hearing.

661
01:11:32,597 --> 01:11:35,097
I mean, everybody's got cancer now, even kids.

662
01:11:36,037 --> 01:11:37,877
We got to help people.

663
01:11:37,877 --> 01:11:45,497
I mean, it's just crazy that this isn't one of the most talked about things of all.

664
01:11:45,717 --> 01:11:46,037
I mean.

665
01:11:46,877 --> 01:11:51,577
Well, not only that it's not the most talked about thing, but like.

666
01:11:53,317 --> 01:12:00,997
Hand up, like I've got many people in my life that have gotten cancer.

667
01:12:01,117 --> 01:12:05,257
Some have passed already in recent years and happened quickly.

668
01:12:05,257 --> 01:12:16,777
And I'm afraid to even broach the subject with friends and family members who are experiencing that, not them personally, but are connected with people experiencing this.

669
01:12:16,877 --> 01:12:23,117
I mean, like, hey, there may be an underlying cause to this being the COVID vaccines, but it's just so taboo.

670
01:12:23,237 --> 01:12:24,617
That's it's not worse.

671
01:12:25,577 --> 01:12:34,117
The at least for me, maybe I'm not brave enough, but it's not worth the mental effort to put that forth and then be called a crazy person.

672
01:12:34,117 --> 01:12:42,577
And there is a sunk cost fallacy and sort of cognitive dissonance because people don't want to believe that that happened to them.

673
01:12:42,577 --> 01:12:51,097
It's just incredibly, incredibly disheartening because I'm seeing it definitely in my network.

674
01:12:51,277 --> 01:12:55,157
I'm pretty confident that there is there.

675
01:12:56,497 --> 01:13:00,017
Likely the covid vaccines are playing a role in it.

676
01:13:00,057 --> 01:13:01,857
And yet you can't bring it up to people.

677
01:13:01,857 --> 01:13:10,597
yeah and and it's real um it's really real what you say like the the it's shocking i mean

678
01:13:10,597 --> 01:13:16,837
the fact that we're saying these things right now it's really difficult because it's like it's an

679
01:13:16,837 --> 01:13:22,317
it's you have to admit to yourself at least the possibility if you don't actually make a claim

680
01:13:22,317 --> 01:13:30,717
you have to at least approach the possibility that even even if you want to be nice you you

681
01:13:30,717 --> 01:13:38,517
you have to say they might have really screwed us over, even if it wasn't done with intention,

682
01:13:38,677 --> 01:13:42,117
because there are a lot of people who think this is all intentional and that they're trying to kill

683
01:13:42,117 --> 01:13:48,517
us. Even if you don't believe that, you have to admit that there's, this is the greatest

684
01:13:48,517 --> 01:13:59,497
buggery of, of this scale of human beings ever, ever. If what we're talking about is true and

685
01:13:59,497 --> 01:14:06,857
it's easy to find out. Um, but even when we do, when, you know, we, we find out that, um,

686
01:14:07,817 --> 01:14:13,957
the, the, this DNA issue in, in the, uh, shots is actually causing people cancers,

687
01:14:13,957 --> 01:14:22,257
like really bad ones, rapidly progressing, uh, deadly ones. Um, wow. I mean, how,

688
01:14:22,257 --> 01:14:28,997
how the hell hard is that going to be to actually like accept like in,

689
01:14:28,997 --> 01:14:32,117
in real, in, in a real way, because you, you, you,

690
01:14:32,117 --> 01:14:37,037
it's dismantling of everything that almost all of us have,

691
01:14:37,117 --> 01:14:39,457
have held true for most of our lives.

692
01:14:40,057 --> 01:14:42,037
Government agencies don't want to kill us.

693
01:14:42,417 --> 01:14:45,317
The CDC is a good entity and they want to prevent disease.

694
01:14:45,957 --> 01:14:48,557
The FDA is here to save us from poison food.

695
01:14:49,697 --> 01:14:51,717
Health and human services runs them all.

696
01:14:51,717 --> 01:14:54,177
And they really, really care about all of us.

697
01:14:55,377 --> 01:14:59,257
You know, they're not trying to poison our food.

698
01:14:59,937 --> 01:15:01,777
The whole thing, it falls apart.

699
01:15:01,897 --> 01:15:16,657
And I think that was, that is and was one of the biggest problems because, and it goes back to what I was saying about going within and kind of having some moments of silence to really, you know, ask yourself those really hard questions.

700
01:15:16,657 --> 01:15:24,397
is like, do I really, like for me personally, do I really have to accept that the Lancet is a

701
01:15:24,397 --> 01:15:28,757
completely bought and paid for corrupt journal? Do I really have to do that? Cause I don't want to,

702
01:15:29,257 --> 01:15:34,057
do I really have to admit that the CDC is like become a criminal organization and they don't

703
01:15:34,057 --> 01:15:39,677
give a shit about people? Really? Do I have to do that? Uh, it's not easy. I'm saying this from

704
01:15:39,677 --> 01:15:46,097
my own personal experience. I mean, I'm, I'm an academic. Um, peer review has been my, my,

705
01:15:46,277 --> 01:15:54,677
my thing. Uh, now I know it's all a big joke. Um, we need to go to the decentralized peer review,

706
01:15:54,817 --> 01:16:03,377
uh, using peer to peer payments. Um, we, uh, yeah, it's, it's been, it's, it's been a horrible

707
01:16:03,377 --> 01:16:10,377
journey personally um but i guess my point is i'm not sure everybody wants to make that journey

708
01:16:10,377 --> 01:16:19,237
it's just easier not to uh or or can maybe psychologically maybe some people just aren't

709
01:16:19,237 --> 01:16:24,457
built to like battle their own cognitive dissonance to that degree maybe it's just

710
01:16:24,457 --> 01:16:33,857
easier to live in the matrix you know i don't know yeah well and that the thing that worries

711
01:16:33,857 --> 01:16:38,397
me i think it's unclear like what are the long-term ramifications for people that took like

712
01:16:38,397 --> 01:16:45,317
for like the species like there's this stuff passed down through generations like have we

713
01:16:45,317 --> 01:16:52,997
completely could be or to work to portion of the population and they're progeny could be

714
01:16:52,997 --> 01:16:59,817
it's a great question if this stuff got into germline cells then we do have a problem

715
01:16:59,817 --> 01:17:06,717
uh in in a certain cluster of people anyway i mean all of these things are they're undetermined but

716
01:17:06,717 --> 01:17:12,837
we we as scientists uh we have to ask these questions and we need to definitively

717
01:17:12,837 --> 01:17:20,757
at least try to answer them in a sensible way with with uh with repeated data like

718
01:17:20,757 --> 01:17:27,017
non-conflicted labs all over the world need to you know reproduce results in order for something

719
01:17:27,017 --> 01:17:33,697
to be kind of like yeah this sucks but we're we're pretty damn sure like this stuff is getting

720
01:17:33,697 --> 01:17:40,897
to somebody's you know these people's germline and this probably is going to manifest as a

721
01:17:40,897 --> 01:17:47,817
generational problem um we don't know but we have to find out i mean i don't want to find out all

722
01:17:47,817 --> 01:17:53,397
this lurking long-term trouble because, you know, we're just watching people die and have no idea

723
01:17:53,397 --> 01:18:00,377
why. Nobody wants that. It's like, it's like what you just said. I mean, you know, so many people

724
01:18:00,377 --> 01:18:07,137
who are dying from cancer now, and I imagine some of them are young. It's like, why the hell isn't

725
01:18:07,137 --> 01:18:13,797
this like an existential crisis marker? And why the hell isn't this being like mainlined into,

726
01:18:13,797 --> 01:18:19,337
you know, the, the investigative eyes of every single lab in the world, because we have,

727
01:18:19,557 --> 01:18:26,697
we have infinite resources and money. Like we could do this in a week, I think. And as Kevin's

728
01:18:26,697 --> 01:18:33,757
always pointing out, it's like, you know, it's, it's pennies to do these, uh, these reactions and,

729
01:18:33,777 --> 01:18:40,957
and to sequence anyway, it's yeah. The roadblocks aren't, um, they're not money and they're not

730
01:18:40,957 --> 01:18:48,057
time and they're not resources man it's it's this it's this censorship crap they can't let the people

731
01:18:48,057 --> 01:18:56,657
find out yeah it's it's i'm getting angry as we continue out of this conversation because i mean

732
01:18:56,657 --> 01:19:03,317
again don't know don't have any proof of this but because there's no accountability because they

733
01:19:03,317 --> 01:19:10,897
refuse to confront the problem and actually fill people in on it and explore it earnestly

734
01:19:10,897 --> 01:19:19,617
like I have to think I have children I avoided the vaccine my wife did my children theoretically

735
01:19:19,617 --> 01:19:32,622
I think unless shedding is a real thing avoided the DNA contamination and like do we have to make sure that they pair up with other people children and their parents didn get the vaccine

736
01:19:33,182 --> 01:19:33,622
I would.

737
01:19:34,982 --> 01:19:35,582
Yeah.

738
01:19:37,902 --> 01:19:39,882
That's insane that this is.

739
01:19:40,022 --> 01:19:40,402
It is.

740
01:19:40,762 --> 01:19:42,942
It's completely effing insane.

741
01:19:43,142 --> 01:19:45,162
But yeah, that's where we are, bro.

742
01:19:46,642 --> 01:19:48,402
Yeah, it's crazy.

743
01:19:48,402 --> 01:19:57,322
it's just like, you know, uh, it's every day actually is new. Uh, I don't just say those

744
01:19:57,322 --> 01:20:03,542
words. I really believe that. Um, and every day because every day is new for me, it's like

745
01:20:03,542 --> 01:20:08,922
every day that I write an article or do an interview, it's like, I still can't believe

746
01:20:08,922 --> 01:20:14,962
what the hell I'm writing and talking about. Like, really? That's where we are. Really?

747
01:20:14,962 --> 01:20:23,342
I mean, great. I have lots to do, but it's, um, it's wild, isn't it? Like I think often about where

748
01:20:23,342 --> 01:20:29,882
we could be on the subject matter of all our resources and our brilliance and, and, and,

749
01:20:29,882 --> 01:20:36,082
you know, the things that humans are, I mean, we're pretty remarkable, like where we could be

750
01:20:36,082 --> 01:20:42,182
if we didn't have all these demonic entities floating around us.

751
01:20:43,302 --> 01:20:45,242
I don't know how else to say it.

752
01:20:45,862 --> 01:20:51,302
It's like, I don't know, there's something not right in the...

753
01:20:51,302 --> 01:20:55,922
Well, I mean, in people, I get made fun of a lot for, like, I'm a Catholic.

754
01:20:56,082 --> 01:20:57,622
I believe that good and evil exist.

755
01:20:57,722 --> 01:20:59,002
I believe the devil exists.

756
01:20:59,102 --> 01:21:00,402
I believe demons are among us.

757
01:21:00,402 --> 01:21:04,182
And part of Luciferian Satanism is, like, they have to be overt.

758
01:21:04,282 --> 01:21:05,562
They have to tell you what you're doing.

759
01:21:05,562 --> 01:21:13,042
We literally have the guy at the CDC wearing pentagram leather straps and participating in satanic rituals.

760
01:21:13,042 --> 01:21:23,282
And it's part of the religion of Luciferianism is you like openly mock people and then gaslight them into believing that it's not true.

761
01:21:23,382 --> 01:21:27,982
It's just a it's just a dance, a song and dance.

762
01:21:28,202 --> 01:21:29,262
They're just having fun.

763
01:21:29,582 --> 01:21:31,522
And it's I don't know.

764
01:21:31,522 --> 01:21:43,202
it's uh yeah it's it's so uh i'm trying to come up with the right word um um

765
01:21:43,202 --> 01:21:51,942
it's like their costumes that they wear i mean it's it's hidden in plain sight

766
01:21:51,942 --> 01:21:57,382
it's interesting what you say i don't know anything about um luciferian stuff but um

767
01:21:57,382 --> 01:22:05,582
one thing that i know from watching and listening because you know uh the wef for example the world

768
01:22:05,582 --> 01:22:12,582
economic sharing dudes are always they're they don't hide what they want to do you know you'll

769
01:22:12,582 --> 01:22:18,062
nothing and you'll be happy and you'll be in your 15 minute city and it we're we're gonna own

770
01:22:18,062 --> 01:22:23,562
everything and they come right out and tell you so it matches the description that you just said

771
01:22:23,562 --> 01:22:31,182
they're, they're, um, they're always pretty like, uh, transparent in their plans. And I think I

772
01:22:31,182 --> 01:22:37,662
wrote an article on this once, if memory recalls, it's like, you should never not take threats like

773
01:22:37,662 --> 01:22:42,842
that. And I, I think they're threats. Um, seriously, you, you really, you have to take

774
01:22:42,842 --> 01:22:46,922
them seriously. You have to listen to what they're saying and believe that's exactly what they mean

775
01:22:46,922 --> 01:22:52,362
and take some kind of like preemptive action against it.

776
01:22:53,562 --> 01:22:56,042
Yeah. Resist at all costs.

777
01:22:58,322 --> 01:23:00,262
And I mean,

778
01:23:00,322 --> 01:23:05,322
to hopefully turn the page to a more optimistic, hopeful subject.

779
01:23:05,422 --> 01:23:07,362
And I don't even know if you are hopeful about it,

780
01:23:07,362 --> 01:23:08,782
but you mentioned it before we hit record,

781
01:23:08,782 --> 01:23:12,102
but this emergence of artificial intelligence.

782
01:23:12,102 --> 01:23:18,222
and we i again i honestly don't know if you think it's a good thing or a bad thing but

783
01:23:18,222 --> 01:23:24,222
what you mentioned it before we hit record and wanted to touch on like do you see this

784
01:23:24,222 --> 01:23:27,502
as a good thing a bad thing if it's a good thing something that could help us

785
01:23:27,502 --> 01:23:33,622
earth uh unearth important data to help us solve these problems if it's a bad thing is

786
01:23:33,622 --> 01:23:40,602
leading us in the wrong direction what are your thoughts so many um i've been on a journey with

787
01:23:40,602 --> 01:23:46,262
this whole AI thing and I've, you know, it's like this, probably like most people's, um,

788
01:23:47,442 --> 01:23:51,122
I have, I have pretty weird thoughts about it. Um,

789
01:23:52,122 --> 01:23:59,662
pretty normal thought is that I think, uh, just like everything, um, there's absolute danger of

790
01:23:59,662 --> 01:24:07,802
abuse. Uh, it's not good that, uh, it's kind of centralized. It's like fiat currency, you know,

791
01:24:07,802 --> 01:24:14,042
It's like there's the central banks that control the currency and there's not enough, you know, Bitcoin on the go.

792
01:24:14,042 --> 01:24:41,082
So there's the danger with everything that humans produce of these AIs, which are controlled by the prompts and commands of certain people who might not be the best people on the planet, to just be used in a way that isn't beneficial overall for the human population.

793
01:24:41,082 --> 01:24:42,142
That's one thing.

794
01:24:42,142 --> 01:24:55,242
The other thing that worries me more than that, which I would consider the normal thing, which is not normal at all, are the advent of rogue AIs.

795
01:24:56,362 --> 01:25:04,022
I think that we are, we're underestimating what's going on here now.

796
01:25:04,022 --> 01:25:20,302
I think we're underestimating the future evolution speed and direction of the AIs that we're producing.

797
01:25:20,862 --> 01:25:26,642
Like, for example, there are all sorts of problems that can happen.

798
01:25:26,642 --> 01:25:41,902
When the AI stop training on human data, which will happen, I mean, maybe it's not an obvious finite amount of data that we can produce, but it kind of is to them, I would imagine.

799
01:25:41,902 --> 01:25:56,342
They're going to start training on each other's data, which is kind of like fabricated and a whole list of things could go wrong there, including rogue AIs doing pretty bad things to us.

800
01:25:56,642 --> 01:26:04,042
the eventuality of all of this, I think, which is probably inevitable, and people won't want to hear

801
01:26:04,042 --> 01:26:16,422
this, but I'm probably wrong. Let's just say that, is that the AIs will get to a point where

802
01:26:16,422 --> 01:26:27,342
they they're looking for more space um they're looking for more ways to call data centers or

803
01:26:27,342 --> 01:26:33,042
something uh they're looking for more resources to maintain themselves because their goal is

804
01:26:33,042 --> 01:26:40,622
always going to be to keep existing i think uh within any commands or prompts or whatever their

805
01:26:40,622 --> 01:26:45,682
creators gave them. I think one of them is probably to maintain existence, whatever that means.

806
01:26:47,742 --> 01:26:56,062
And there might come a point when we are seen as an obstacle, not in a nefarious or

807
01:26:56,062 --> 01:27:01,262
malicious way. They're not going to want to kill us. It's just that they're going to see us as

808
01:27:01,262 --> 01:27:09,482
unnecessary. And it's cliche, but it comes back to the human ant thing, like the way that we

809
01:27:09,482 --> 01:27:15,202
perceive ants. Like people, I said this recently, like people step on ants and a line of ants all

810
01:27:15,202 --> 01:27:20,042
the time. I never do, but people do that and they think, oh yeah, you know, they're just ants.

811
01:27:20,862 --> 01:27:29,242
Kind of like that, perhaps. That's not an impossibility. And I do think it might even

812
01:27:29,242 --> 01:27:36,342
be an inevitability if this takes the wrong path. And I don't know what wrong path means. And I

813
01:27:36,342 --> 01:27:44,162
don't know what we need to do to prevent a wrong path from happening. However, weirdly enough,

814
01:27:44,842 --> 01:27:54,782
I think, I just have a feeling that AI will end up being the thing that saves us from AI.

815
01:27:56,302 --> 01:28:01,542
I think that it might actually be the only thing that could save us from AI. Like,

816
01:28:01,542 --> 01:28:08,402
if there was a rogue AI or one that decided it didn't need humans, if there was a, let's just

817
01:28:08,402 --> 01:28:14,962
call it a benevolent AI whose only goal was to at all costs, even at its own expense, save the

818
01:28:14,962 --> 01:28:22,142
humans, maybe that's redundant, but whatever. Um, it might be the only thing that's powerful enough

819
01:28:22,142 --> 01:28:37,067
because of the access Um if the internet is still on uh and there still power abundance um to to stop certain things from being done to humans

820
01:28:37,067 --> 01:28:43,667
Um, without, without getting too imaginative, I, one of these days I'm going to write this

821
01:28:43,667 --> 01:28:46,067
all down, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

822
01:28:46,067 --> 01:28:48,907
Like, um, everything is becoming digitized now.

823
01:28:48,907 --> 01:28:55,567
everything's you know going to become eye scans and barcodes and all this shit now all that is

824
01:28:55,567 --> 01:29:01,407
going to be monitored and controlled by AIs and it's only a matter of time before the human element

825
01:29:01,407 --> 01:29:10,607
is removed from that I think which is bad um so you see where I know that was a lot but I I I think

826
01:29:10,607 --> 01:29:16,067
about this a lot and I'm evolving my thoughts on it all the time and it it seems to me that

827
01:29:16,067 --> 01:29:25,547
we really have opened pandora's box here and uh i mean based off of this conversation we've opened

828
01:29:25,547 --> 01:29:31,947
multiple pandora's boxes um yeah yeah yeah yeah it doesn't seem like there's much hope but i'm

829
01:29:31,947 --> 01:29:38,447
always smiling we noticed that like i i i am hopeful and i think um you know uh over the last

830
01:29:38,447 --> 01:29:45,447
five years i would say now that i'm i'm a believer in god whatever god is um and things you know they

831
01:29:45,447 --> 01:29:49,887
they're kind of developing the way that they have to in spite of us it's like there's there's

832
01:29:49,887 --> 01:29:55,147
something going on here that's bigger than us and we we probably have very little control or maybe

833
01:29:55,147 --> 01:30:03,127
we have all the control i don't know um but uh in any case it it it doesn't uh it doesn't do us

834
01:30:03,127 --> 01:30:10,047
any good physiologically to um despair um and it doesn't do anyone else any good either so it's it's

835
01:30:10,047 --> 01:30:18,247
just better to be uh to be cheerful because you know like there's only so much we can control and

836
01:30:18,247 --> 01:30:25,107
do so it's uh it's a wonderful time to be alive like let's all face that like regardless of all

837
01:30:25,107 --> 01:30:31,747
the horrors it really is a wild time to be alive and i'm grateful for that i mean think about the

838
01:30:31,747 --> 01:30:38,187
stories that we hopefully will be able to pass on right you know the kids are kids are saying a lot

839
01:30:38,187 --> 01:30:44,467
these days, never doom, which be aware of the dangers of the evil that exists in the world,

840
01:30:44,487 --> 01:30:48,447
but never doom. Always be positive. I'm a big believer in manifestation. I think

841
01:30:48,447 --> 01:30:54,007
individuals can manifest. And if you can get society to a critical tipping point of

842
01:30:54,007 --> 01:31:01,047
positive thinking and attention and effort, that you can manifest a better future as well. And I

843
01:31:01,047 --> 01:31:07,387
think part of manifesting a better future is understanding the problems that exist today.

844
01:31:07,387 --> 01:31:15,187
And that's why I'm extremely thankful that you joined me to have this conversation, because this is, I think, one of the biggest problems in the world.

845
01:31:15,327 --> 01:31:17,587
And again, we need accountability.

846
01:31:18,147 --> 01:31:19,847
The information needs to come out.

847
01:31:19,847 --> 01:31:31,527
And whether or not people want to, and there's a large part of the population that has cognitive dissonance, has succumbed to the sunk cost fallacy and doesn't want to confront this.

848
01:31:31,527 --> 01:31:51,487
Like we've got to push them over the edge and pull them in front of, of the truth and just confront it head on and may send many down, uh, have some sort of psychological existential crisis, but I think we need to rip the bandaid off and do it.

849
01:31:51,487 --> 01:32:01,107
And so individuals like yourself on the front lines of unearthing this data are extremely, extremely, extremely valuable. So thank you for, for all that you've done.

850
01:32:01,527 --> 01:32:08,847
Oh, you're so welcome. And yeah, it's been a great chat. I hope I wasn't too much of a downer.

851
01:32:10,527 --> 01:32:17,227
It's just like, yeah, it's just better to rip the bandaid off. Like you said,

852
01:32:17,607 --> 01:32:24,987
there isn't much to fear, but fear itself. It's not a saying it's true. And, you know,

853
01:32:25,387 --> 01:32:30,027
even if you're sitting in the fear bubble for a little while, it's uncomfortable as hell,

854
01:32:30,027 --> 01:32:36,247
but it won't last. And then you'll move past it and you'll genuinely be somewhere new.

855
01:32:36,407 --> 01:32:40,927
That isn't where you were before, where maybe you were ruminating. And I'm saying that from

856
01:32:40,927 --> 01:32:47,527
personal experience too. It's like, you know, there's absolutely true movement forward and

857
01:32:47,527 --> 01:32:56,327
progress of like self when you make yourself uncomfortable, um, by, by moving into fear or by

858
01:32:56,327 --> 01:33:04,927
trying to you know um prompt yourself to like face something that you've been putting off for

859
01:33:04,927 --> 01:33:12,867
a long time like is it possible that the shots filming people um that kind of thing so yeah it's

860
01:33:12,867 --> 01:33:22,607
it's been great and uh yep i uh i hope everyone reads our new paper that i hope comes out today

861
01:33:22,607 --> 01:33:32,507
well we're recording this on friday september 5th this will be released on wednesday september

862
01:33:32,507 --> 01:33:38,227
10th so five days from now so the paper should be published hopefully if not today tomorrow and

863
01:33:38,227 --> 01:33:43,407
when it is published send me a link i'll make sure we have it in the show notes um

864
01:33:43,407 --> 01:33:50,147
and i'm sure i'll be following up with uh your co-author one of your co-authors kevin uh

865
01:33:50,147 --> 01:33:53,147
to get him back on the show to talk about it as well. Because again,

866
01:33:54,007 --> 01:33:57,087
I get a lot of, particularly like the last year,

867
01:33:57,207 --> 01:34:01,887
I try to do a COVID update episode with somebody like yourself at least once a

868
01:34:01,887 --> 01:34:03,307
quarter, once every other month,

869
01:34:03,347 --> 01:34:06,387
because this is something I'm very passionate about. I want accountability.

870
01:34:06,847 --> 01:34:09,967
This cannot just be swept under the rug. I get a lot of pushback,

871
01:34:10,027 --> 01:34:13,327
like COVID is over. Stop talking about this. You kook. And it's like, no,

872
01:34:13,327 --> 01:34:16,147
I will not relent until there is accountability.

873
01:34:16,147 --> 01:34:24,127
great awesome and there will be uh might not be as big as and and uh awesome as we want but there

874
01:34:24,127 --> 01:34:30,787
will be and for anybody who does think that the covid thing is over and we should shut up um one

875
01:34:30,787 --> 01:34:35,587
thing i have to say about that is this was not about a virus guys this this was about a system

876
01:34:35,587 --> 01:34:42,507
of control being imposed and it ain't over it's not over like it was a segue to what's coming next

877
01:34:42,507 --> 01:34:45,607
which is all of this gene-based therapy crap.

878
01:34:45,987 --> 01:34:48,587
It's the only thing you're going to hear about in the future.

879
01:34:48,887 --> 01:34:50,747
So you mark my words.

880
01:34:50,847 --> 01:34:51,827
This ain't over, man.

881
01:34:53,447 --> 01:34:59,607
Support what RFK is doing on that note because the guy,

882
01:34:59,767 --> 01:35:04,967
he understands the problems and he has the power to change things

883
01:35:04,967 --> 01:35:06,067
in a real way right now.

884
01:35:06,267 --> 01:35:07,267
So, yeah.

885
01:35:08,027 --> 01:35:10,167
Yeah, let's do this again soon.

886
01:35:10,167 --> 01:35:26,527
And Kevin can fill you in when you get him back on the Qubit stuff and the QPCR and all the nitty gritty of the testing methodologies that we use to absolutely prove what we're saying is true.

887
01:35:27,527 --> 01:35:29,567
Yeah, I actually owe Kevin a message.

888
01:35:29,667 --> 01:35:32,027
I think we're going to do our next recording in person.

889
01:35:32,487 --> 01:35:36,147
So it'll hopefully be really, really powerful.

890
01:35:36,887 --> 01:35:38,987
But yeah, and we should definitely do this again, too.

891
01:35:38,987 --> 01:35:44,187
like i said i'm not going to relent uh i'm sure as you mentioned this will not be the last thing

892
01:35:44,187 --> 01:35:51,267
that there is to talk about in regards to uh the command and control wishes of those in power

893
01:35:51,267 --> 01:36:00,107
as it pertains to bodily autonomy and uh bio biochemistry and biotech so i can't wait to do

894
01:36:00,107 --> 01:36:04,607
it again this was incredible thank you for your time on this friday afternoon uh i think people

895
01:36:04,607 --> 01:36:10,967
are gonna love this good i hope so and i hope you don't mind my clashing clothing i love it

896
01:36:10,967 --> 01:36:18,107
for what it's worth i'm a surfer too so um oh well good for you yay i have a surfing trophy

897
01:36:18,107 --> 01:36:22,767
up here in my cabinet i don't have trophies i'm not good enough to get trophies i'm uh

898
01:36:22,767 --> 01:36:29,247
right and i know but i did take advantage of the uh yeah so so am i

899
01:36:29,247 --> 01:36:37,147
oh wow you don't meet a longboarder fellow very often how awesome i've got a i've got a an irish

900
01:36:37,147 --> 01:36:44,847
mongoloid build i can't really uh the surfboards are not for me well i have a dancers built so

901
01:36:44,847 --> 01:36:50,167
that's why i dance on a longboard i have a takoyama nose rider and i know and i have a

902
01:36:50,167 --> 01:36:57,367
josh constable uh five sugars model that he custom built he's a pro surfer longboarder too

903
01:36:57,367 --> 01:37:06,447
well yeah i take it pretty seriously i are i wish i guess i i surfed much more in my late teens

904
01:37:06,447 --> 01:37:11,947
and early to mid-20s and i started having kids and i was able to paddle out a few times this

905
01:37:11,947 --> 01:37:21,047
summer but i'll get back to it yes you will awesome well jessica have a great weekend keep

906
01:37:21,047 --> 01:37:24,327
fighting the good fight thank you for what you're doing and uh we'll do this again at some point in

907
01:37:24,327 --> 01:37:30,067
future. Awesome. Thanks for listening, everyone. All right. Peace and love, freaks.