You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.
We talk about a Fed just gone nuts.
All the central banks going nuts.
So it's all acting like safe haven.
I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins.
In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.
I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.
If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
G-Money. G-Money. I respect your game, sir. Welcome to the show.
Marty, it's great to be here.
Chai DeLay to you and the TFTC crew.
Yeah, man. It's a good day to be alive.
It is a good day to be alive. It's a good day to be recording.
Thank you for doing this on such short notice.
I'll let you know in DM.
Somebody bailed on me today, so I had a time slot open up, and I think the tip that you've been on is one that I'm becoming more interested in.
Not that I haven't been interested in it in the past, but I think if we're out there looking at what the government is doing,
not only with our tax money but with the dollars they're printing out of thin air,
it seems morally reprehensible to be supporting the system of infinite war.
I mean, we wrote about something in the newsletter covered what Robert Malone unnourished and many other researchers have been unnourthing for years.
But Lyme disease created in a lab, released into the public.
Many people have died from it.
Many people are terminally ill from it.
A lone star tick created in the lab.
Same thing.
COVID created in the lab.
Epstein files highlighting that the government and many of the largest corporations are filled
with satanic pedophiles. And it feels like taxation is a humiliation ritual at this point.
Yeah, it started with your ex post last night. And I've been kind of down this road for a while.
And I think a lot of us at some point reach kind of our red line to where like,
enough is enough. They've they killed your grandma, right? They shut down your business.
they made you uh or forcibly tried to inject you with poison um they stole an election right they're
creating all these bio labs uh like they're creating genocide and so you know when you
realize like you have no power or authority in a proof of stake democracy right us as bitcoiners
we understand proof of work that's why we don't buy ethereum that's why we don't buy xrp because
we understand a small group of people handing over power to a small group of people to constantly
change the rules never ends up great for the people that support it. And so what we've been
doing is the same thing over and over and over again, expecting a different result. But here we
are again, right? In a situation to where you have no power in democracy, right? American democracy
is literally a shit coin because a thousand people get to control 300 million and you only need,
you know, 501 of those people to defect to, right, get together to overthrow the will of 300 million.
And to me and you, like, that's a shit coin, front and center. And I think people need to realize
is that there is a peaceful weapon where people can take back their power. And now we've weaponized
consent so an individual can now say no i have a moral red line to not support genocide bio labs
all these different things and so right now if you are paying your federal income tax you are aiding
and abetting a criminal cartel thug like that is just full stop um what you're doing yeah and it's
I saw actually a clip on X this morning.
I think it was a Christian nationalist, but he was basically highly like,
nobody is radical today.
Like, you may think you're radical, like calling out the government
and shitposting on X.
But throughout history, if the government pushed as far as it has
to the point that it has today, like, there would be violent uprisings.
And to be clear, not calling for a violent uprising.
but I do think just from a sociological observational perspective,
it is interesting comparing modern times to history,
particularly with how docile the masses are
when they're getting completely robbed and extorted by,
as you mentioned, a completely immoral mob of thugs, essentially,
that are making our lives materially worse off.
And I think that's a big question for everybody.
I think especially right now, I think everybody has these feelings, but there's that feeling of relative lack of agency or ability to actually do anything.
And I think people view the idea of not paying your taxes and getting thrown in the cage as the biggest hindrance to that.
It's like, well, I don't agree with this, but if I don't cough over 30% of my income, they're going to throw me in a cage.
I have a family, I have a life, I don't want to sit in a cage.
So I can't do that.
Yeah, you know, it's been a domestication process for a long time through licenses, permissions, right?
Everything now is legal for a fee, right?
You can't even go out and enjoy a park or an ocean without paying something when literally this world was given us to first, you know, for free, essentially.
And so what is that? Right. What did they do for the world wars?
Well, they sent all the alphas right into the meat grinder. Right. Got rid of them through that process.
And so now we're left with the decision. Are you going to continually bend the knee to a satanic group of pedophiles or are you going to stand up?
And, you know, it takes a lot of courage for individuals to finally hit that red line and
should be like enough is enough.
But if you look at, you know, the past of 1776, like the gentlemen that put their lives
on the line, they put their livelihoods on the line.
Like they were like basically facing sudden death or capture from an enemy that would
literally torture them.
Now we're like, oh, we may have to go to jail for a little bit.
And, you know, in our scenario, we could literally put our Bitcoin and self-custodial
Bitcoin, tell the government to go fuck themselves. And then like, you know, you get free room and
board for maybe a couple of years. I mean, you can see what's happening with the political elite
who don't pay their taxes, right? None of them go to jail. And by the way, Marty, I've got a six
year head start on all of you guys. I stopped filing my federal income taxes when the fake
election of Joe Biden went through. And I said, enough is enough, right? Because they can't arrest
everyone. It's a numbers game. And so if enough of us actually stand up, by the way, there's
there's thousands of studies on this,
that if you have at least 3.51% of the population
in a peaceful protest,
it actually causes major upheavals
to the current social order through peaceful protest.
And so really, you know, Bitcoin is a revolution of love.
We have the moral high ground, right?
To stand in accordance with our own values,
to say enough is enough.
It's time to end this stuff.
And what happens is eventually,
Bitcoin is going to become the most worth,
like the most valuable thing on the planet and when bitcoin becomes the most valuable thing on
the planet and governments cannot print free energy out of thin air they're gonna have to
start negotiating with us like hey marty uh can you throw me some sats to build this biolab in
ukraine to like create a worldwide uh epidemic are you cool with that marty like are you cool with
that um but right now right we hand over our power and authority through voting and that essentially
has defanged us, right? Like voting is basically
chopping your own dick off because
you have given over your power and authority to
another figure to do whatever they want
and by the way, there's no recourse if they do
something you don't like.
Yeah, fell for it again.
Fell for it again is
the meme of the day right now.
Voting another humiliation ritual
that I've participated in only twice
in my life and greatly
regret it. But
I mean, you said you stopped paying your income taxes six
years ago. I imagine
it wasn't just you woke up one day and had this um had this epiphany like oh i gotta stop doing
this i imagine it built up over years and so i i think a little bit more background on your
personal story like what led you to um have these beliefs and this conviction and the agency and the
willpower to actually follow through with it like what what led you to this point yeah so um i think
what really pissed me off was I was at the Las Vegas shooting. So I was at the country concert
in Las Vegas where, you know, some guy killed 58 people, which by the way, that story was complete
bullshit. And so that incident, that near death experience, right. Pissed me off. My buddy got
shot in the leg, you know, a couple feet away from me. Um, he's okay. Thank God. But, um, you know,
I felt helpless in a situation that, um, I had no control or power over. And it made me really angry
because I was like, dude, like I want revenge.
I need to figure out what happened.
And so I scoured the internet looking for all types of clues
because the mainstream media completely lied about everything.
There was probably multiple shooters.
We were probably being shot at through helicopters.
Like, I don't know, right?
I know it wasn't that one dude in a freaking hotel room though, right?
And so really I got pissed off and I started scouring the internet
and I come across this, you know, this group of information called Q, QAnon.
You've probably heard of Q as a conspiracy about drops relating to a satanic group of pedophiles ruling the world through bankers and politicians, right?
Shocker.
It ended up basically becoming true.
And so what happened was over the years through this information drop that was like a Socratic method, it wasn't like telling you information.
It would make you ask questions, go research it.
And then after a while, we started connecting these dots.
to me like, yo, there's some kind of military possible operation that is like coming around to
possibly, you know, rein in the power of these small group of people. You know, for me, it always
sounded kind of too good to be true. Like, hey, man, like this sounds really good to be true.
We're going to arrest Hillary Clinton and we're going to take everybody down because in the back
of my mind, I was like, you know, if we don't fix the money, like this whole Q operation is just
kind of bullshit, right? Because like, if, if you don't, if you arrest everybody, like the bankers
are just going to get in control again in 20 or 30 years. And then you realize like, wait a minute,
there's this decentralized anonymous, like peer to peer currency thing that's happening that
nobody knows, you know, who created it or whatever. And so I started connecting all these dots and
basically putting an orange lens across all the Q drops. And when you kind of understand that,
because the Q movement never mentions Bitcoin,
never mentions crypto, doesn't talk about it.
It does bring up John Perry Barlow,
which if you understand his thesis on, you know,
the Declaration of Independence of cyberspace,
it's basically Bitcoin.
And so if you put like the Declaration of Cyberspace
of, you know, through John Perry Barlow,
you put our Declaration of Independence, right?
And you put Bitcoin together,
you literally get this culmination
of this digital 1776, right?
And I believe that Bitcoiners need to think a little bit bigger and realize that Bitcoin is probably a huge part of a bigger master plan.
Because if there's pure evil in the world, Marty, there has to be some good out there.
Right. That's that's the duality of what we live in.
And so understanding that there are probably good people that are helping, you know, beneath the scenes or behind the scenes to some degree to help bring about this new this new world of abundance, freedom and sovereignty.
That's kind of where I go.
And so I really started to build up this conviction and realized that, holy crap, did you realize
the counterinsurgency guide put out by the U.S. military, nicknamed COIN, by the way,
was put out on the same month and year as the Genesis block, January 2009.
And you realize COIN actually stands for counterinsurgency.
and counterinsurgency itself is basically a, you know,
the definition of a counterinsurgency is, hold on,
I'm going to grab it real quick because I off the top of my head,
but I'm going to give you the exact context is made to be defined as a
comprehensive civilian and military effort taken to simultaneously defeat and
contain insurgency and address its root causes.
and so when you kind of like get down this route you're like wait a minute like what are the root
causes of all the evil in this world well it's the fiat money printer and then you realize like
well if we're the counter insurgency right and we have this now this weapon of peace right then
maybe like it's up to us to actually turn the tables on them and fight this thing peacefully
through this fifth generation warfare because you know i ain't i ain't gonna go storm the
capital with muskets like that's not going to work we're in an information war where knowledge
is power truth is power and we have the ultimate power um you know backed by real watts joules per
second right and this is where the software jason lorry thesis comes into play of bitcoin as a
weapon system right a global governance weapon systems that allows sovereignty at the individual
level but collectively we protect each other through the network um so that's kind of just
a little bit of a synopsis of, you know, how I kind of figured this out.
Because if you logically like, you know, Monte Carlo's scenario, right, Marty?
Like you can keep voting hard, see where that kind of ends up, right?
You can take muskets to, you know, Washington, I guess, you know, but the kinetic stillmate,
you know, and the kinetic war is not going to win you any friends out there.
But if we fight this peacefully and we take the moral high ground and we realize that no
government or military can co-opt the network at this point, and we all just kind of opt
out then wait a minute that flips the tables um and gives power back to the people yeah a lot to
digest here because i i mean uh i'm sorry that you were physically there during the las vegas
shootings but not but um i for the longest time caught bullshit on that immediately actually had
john colin on who is um yeah he's great he's probably got the best research yeah yeah and i
I think his theory that there was some sort of inter-Saudi royalty beef
that played out in Vegas that day makes the most sense to me.
I don't think it was that guy in the Mandalay Bay.
I mean, if you just run the numbers and the amount of ammo that was shot
and the amount of time, it doesn't make any sense.
So I think they definitely, that was a psyop,
whether or not it was a cover-up or a psyop, I think.
And then you have the theories of it was some satanic ritual
with the pyramid and all that as well.
Who knows exactly what it was, but it wasn't what they told us.
The QAnon stuff?
To be frank, QAnon to me, it's always been like,
hey, I think they're directionally correct,
but I think there is some sort of psyop going on
where they're just being led to these sort of dead ends
and being forced to look like crazy people.
But directionally, I've always been, especially after Pizzagate, like anybody can call you a conspiracy theorist.
But if you actually went and read the emails and then look at James Alphontes's Instagram before it locked down, which I did.
And I had the screenshots like something is going on there.
You can't tell me not to believe my lying eyes.
I've seen the emails and I saw that Instagram page specifically.
And that was a dark, dark rabbit hole when it immersed.
And then obviously with the Epstein files today, it's like literally
talking about this stuff in the open and these emails.
And it seems like the admin or whoever's in charge, deep state,
whoever it may be, is trying to sweep it under the rug.
And I do completely agree to that.
So I think that's the most frustrating thing.
It's like nobody wants to get kinetic.
I think you're an idiot if you think storming the capital or beginning
to start a kinetic civil war is going to be productive.
you're going to end up with the French Revolution style
chaotic situation.
So I have always been a big believer that Bitcoin is this peaceful revolution.
And I think that is a thing as Bitcoiners that we really,
to your point, need to think bigger and tried.
I think that's I mean, I've been in this game for 13 years now
and professionally for for almost nine years writing and talking about it.
And I think that's one thing I've been iterating on
and trying to figure out.
And immediately I don think we been as successful as I would like to be How can you convince the masses or maybe not even the masses just that critical mass of three and a half percent of people 3 percent of people that this is how you opt out and exit and actually affect meaningful change
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Go TFTC for 25% off a ticket. I'll see you there. Yeah. Um, I think it's just a, you know,
an undomestication process we've been going through. I think, you know, COVID was probably
like the training wheels of humanity of like, Hey, did you take the clot shot? Right. Because
there were literally, um, you know, terrible consequences for people that did right. Like
you had severe consequences for, um, you know, injecting yourself with, with Fauci's poison.
Now, you know, if you understand that us as like humans have never had like these natural predators, right?
Every social program has basically meant to, you know, domesticate us, make us more docile, provide, you know, benefits to us.
We can see what's happening in the streets of L.A., right?
We can see what's happening on the streets of any big city in America.
You know, you go to Europe or you go to, you know, Turkey.
I've been, you know, I go overseas all the time.
You don't see that over there.
You know, you just don't see the poverty and the just like delusional, like give of humans just giving up on life.
And so something's happened, right?
Like something's happened to where we've basically saved a lot of these people that maybe, you know, you could say, well, that's mean, G money.
You shouldn't say we shouldn't save these people.
But like, you know, we've literally propped up bad DNA, right?
We've let them, right?
We've let them have more children.
We incentivize lazy people, fat people, whatever, to have more kids because the government pays them.
And now we've got the smart, you know, you know, productive people that are like, well, wait a minute.
We got to think about, you know, it's all about, you know, idiocracy.
Idiocracy is literally, you know, basically a documentary at this point.
And so what is it going to take for people to realize there's no winning this battle?
There's no beating the system in the current system as it resides.
Right. It has to be done through a parallel system.
And Jason Lurie's software thesis basically lays out the guidelines for why you've been domesticated, how they've basically exploited your belief system to control you.
And that, you know, these different shamans, right, presidents, preachers have been doing this a long time because they want you under their control because a docile, fearful nation is very easy to control.
yeah yeah it's uh and then it's the other like the media it all feeds into like today the bitcoin
brief we cover the fact that the population i think in america specifically of individuals
are between the ages of zero and 14 is half of what it was 50 years ago we're not reproducing
at a rate that I think we should be.
And I think a lot of it has been driven
by this fiat monetary system.
You have a dual income household
became a very strong theme post-1971.
You have inflation on top of that.
So even if you do have a dual income household,
it's hard to make enough money to sustain yourselves,
let alone a large and growing family.
And then on top of that, you have the social aspect, social media, mainstream media, gambling, pornography, this being used to just sort of dull the senses, sensitize everybody and detach them from what I would argue are moral imperatives.
just like being a good person, raising a family and being a productive member of society.
And I don't know if you believe in like the fourth turning thesis or sort of these cycles that exist.
And are we just a generation, a few generations that are born or living through this inflection point
where we just need to get through this chaos and eventually push up and shove
and people will wake up and flip the switch.
Yeah, well, I've always tried to build up
like conviction in people and like,
hey man, Bitcoin isn't just like a hedge against inflation.
Like it's much, much bigger of a plan than people realize
because, you know, here we have this, you know,
it's based upon TCPIP, GPS, Jot-256,
all, right, coincidentally,
are US military nuclear proof technologies, okay?
And you start putting some of these pieces together, realizing they assassinated JFK because of Executive Order 11-11-0.
He was trying to rein in the power of the banks.
And then you have Trump come into office, puts up a portrait of Andrew Jackson in his first three days of office.
Andrew Jackson, of course, was the general who coined the term drain the swamp.
And he also was the one who defeated the central banks.
He defeated the second central bank of the United States.
and so when you go back through these q drops and you realize there's a mathematical proofs
and so what i mean by that is like a lot of the bitcoiners out there right i kind of call them
like normies and stuff like they believe the hbo special right that had q and on on there and said
oh we got him we found him which was some you know guy in his basement just like they found satoshi
right they found satoshi and you know we're supposed to believe all that right and so all
that's propaganda meant to um you know dissuade you from this information but if you go back and
look at what was attacked back then the most it was trump it was q it was all these different
conspiracy theories that are now basically have come true um and so i think there's a little bit
of cognitive dissonance with bitcoiners because they're like oh man like man we we like we remember
maybe this isn't that true i don't know but now it's like in their face um and you've got bitcoiners
that figured out the money part of it right they realized that but they didn't realize like how evil
everything was right they thought like if we fix the money like we can just go back to voting and
paying our taxes and everything will be cool man you know and it's funny because the other side of
that equation like the q people they know and realize all the evil shit that's happening but
then they think this bitcoin stuff is like mark of the beast right central bank digital currency
and so like i'm in the middle here going hey you guys and you guys need to like get together
because together collectively, like we are going to beat this thing.
Like it's, it's mathematically impossible at this point to not beat it.
Right. With the network being in the 17th year, right.
Which is Q being in the 250th anniversary of 1776.
Like this is a very special year.
And I think a lot of things are going to be happening,
but the whole point here is that like this operation was meant to weaponize
an individual, right, across the entire globe in a non-kinetic way so that they can opt out of this
tyrannical system, right? You can opt out of slavery and bondage by, you know, if you're in a terrible
country, you can put all your wealth into a sea phrase and walk across the border, right? Or if
you're in, you know, in America and you want to, you know, stand here and fight like me, you know,
you can set up different, you know, multi-sig cold storage devices that are geographically dispersed
so that if something happens, you're typically, you're going to be probably okay.
Because the laws of this country are unjust.
The congressmen are a bunch of criminals all the way up the ladder.
And the institutions are literally here to, I mean, they're here to kill you.
I mean, I don't know how much more direct you can be about this,
but these institutions here are here to indoctrinate you
and basically put you to us in an early grave
by making as most money off of you as possible.
And so you are a slave.
You just don't realize it
because you don't feel like you're in a prison.
Yeah.
No, I think that's becoming abundantly clear.
And I was particularly,
I'd be interested to get your thoughts
on the Trump administration,
particularly with like the Q connection.
Because again, hand up, I'll admit like Q,
directionally correct in my mind,
But being led by a pied paper, some 4chan poster that is just trying to get them riled up and, again, running into these dead ends and sounding crazy publicly.
Because there's like, what was the one thing?
I remember I had an Uber driver once.
It was a Q guy.
And he was explaining, like, the Internet's going to go down next week.
And then they're going to open it back up.
And you're going to have, like, infinite energy, no Sarah, or something like that.
Yeah.
So that's something that Q never said.
And so what you have is you have a fringe movement of these Q people.
By the way, a lot of them are probably Mossad operatives that, you know, push the flat earth.
They push JFK juniors alive.
They push, you know, all these crazy different conspiracies attached to the Q movement to make it look crazy.
But if you actually go and read all the drops and you understand mathematical, like, you know, consistencies, right?
We all understand that like your private key is mathematically impossible for anybody to guess at random, right?
With all the compute power in the world.
And when you go back and look at the Q drops, it's the same mathematical connections.
Now, there was probably like, I would say 95% of it was like bullshit, like just, you know,
PSYOPI misdirection on purpose because, you know, the enemy was looking at it as well.
So, but what you had is a strong number of posts that directly correlated to either like a Trump tweet,
something happening in the news the next day, you know, the Saudi purge, all these different things
where somebody beforehand knew what was going to happen in the future.
OK, we call that a timestamp, right?
Literally.
And if you go back and timestamp some of those old posts, you'll realize like, holy shit,
like, I don't know what this is, but somebody over here is in the know.
OK, and Trump is involved and the military is involved in some way.
And so something is going on behind the scenes. Right. And it's not like it's it's hidden.
Like Trump will literally re-truth Q posts that say nothing can stop what is coming. Right.
And it has a big Q on it and all these different things. And so Trump consistently repost this stuff.
Right. Just the other day, the White House posted something. The hunters become the hunted, which was actually a famous Q-ism quote.
And so I call this like trust through verification. Like we're still getting these verified, like I call them like comms or coincidences that keep kind of happening after the fact. And you're like, well, this operation was dead. Why do they still like keep teasing this stuff?
because one of the main posts, one of the main Q posts says,
nothing can stop what is coming is not just a catchphrase.
Are you ready to finish what we've started?
And coincidentally, that post was done on October 31st, 2018.
We all know what happened on October 31st.
The Satoshi white paper was released to the world.
Okay.
And if you think about nothing can stop what is coming, you know,
maybe the sun coming up tomorrow, maybe taxation.
if you keep paying your taxes to pedophiles,
death, and probably the next Bitcoin block.
Like there's probably not that many things in this world
that you can stop,
but there's probably a handful on one hand you can realize
and Bitcoin blocks being mined is probably one of those.
And so, you know, if you start to realize
like this was an operation to decentralize the media
because before Q, 96% of like all the media
across the entire globe was ran by six companies, okay?
And if you were going to break up that, you know, monopoly of information, how would you do that? Right. And, you know, I'm sure you probably heard about Pizzagate and all this other crazy stuff way back in the day.
And you're like, well, I heard about that stuff, but it sounds a little too crazy. And now coming into fruition, I think people are starting to take it more seriously.
but really I think it was an information like dissemination propaganda to where it helped
just break out all these conspiracy theories because back then before we got all got banned
on Twitter after January 6th you know our small group of like 15 people were getting like over a
billion views a month on X like we were killing it with all the connections to Pizzagate and the
symbolism and Epstein and all these crazy you know famous people that were connected and so that was
I think what really kind of helped jumpstart this thing. And then you put the monetary layer on top
of it, you know, there's just some definite connections in maybe this decompartmentalized
operation. So where does it stand today? Obviously, the last couple of weeks, a lot of people,
particularly Trump voters, mega supporters are not happy. President Trump, myself included. Like,
I think this Iran stuff, at least from my perspective, looks like a miscalculation
unnecessary as a millennial who grew up was 10 when 9 11 happened formative years where
middle eastern wars great financial crisis when i was 17 18 covid when i was having my first child
like i'm pretty radicalized like again going back to the meme like up yeah fell for it again okay
i guess that's uh that's a question that everybody has in their mind right now the
The morale seems pretty low throughout the country.
Yeah.
And I would say that's a lot of MAGA folks that have not found Bitcoin.
Right.
Those are the folks that have not found Bitcoin and don't realize what the power of that is.
And I kind of look at everything through like these main markers of like where we're at.
Right.
Like with like I've in my opinion, the central bankers are enemy number one.
OK.
And so everything else that happens that gets us to defeating the bankers are just kind of like steps in that process.
And if you understand that the Zionist regime, right, the Jewish Zionist bankers are probably at the top of this entire thing.
Where a couple of years ago, even if you mentioned one negative comment about Israel, you were banned.
You were completely sidelined if you had a regular job.
You were completely tarred and feathered, you know, socially so that you couldn't even even interact.
And now, right, we're at a time to where people are waking up to the fact that there is this Zionist group of people that are probably in control of all the banks, all these different things that are happening, and that they probably infiltrated Iran.
You know, I know they infiltrated Iran up all the way up into the Revolutionary Guard.
OK. And so, you know, understanding that Israel is responsible for much of the conflict that happens in the Middle East on purpose.
Right. To keep everybody on their toes, to keep conflict and war at the center footing of all of this is what keeps them in power.
I mean, don't even ask me about it. This goes back to the Henry Ford days.
Henry Ford talked about this, you know, when he was alive in the 1900s.
This isn't anything new. It's their same playbook.
And so I think people need to understand that Trump is not your typical president OK he came in at a very special time under very special circumstances to not run politics as usual
OK, he is running a military operation plan to bring about a Bitcoin standard to the entire world,
to bring about all these new technologies through Tesla, through SpaceX, through all these different entities.
because if you go back and look, you'll realize that the first person that got access to the
Nikola Tesla files was actually Trump's uncle, John G. Trump. And you're like, wait a minute,
that's wild, right? And, you know, Trump was never a politician before he ran in 2016, right?
He lost an election by 81 million votes, right? I mean, you know, and so I think there's a lot of
noise out there that people get caught up in this emotional reactions to things when
people don't know all the information. Like we're literally in World War III. 95% of the stuff you
see behind a screen is probably fake. Right. And so we don't really know what's happening actually
to some degree. But I have enough proofs and mathematical, you know, providence that I know
that this is still operation is still moving forward because Trump is still alive. The Bitcoin
network is still thriving. We have a full, you know, integration into our financial system through
the genius act and the clarity act and bitcoin is getting mad at trump being like hey trump
you released all these shit coins you made all this money you did all this and it's like hey man
like if you are going to bring a culture of like up to speed on crypto like you have to cast the
widest net possible man like and so bitcoin maxis are just like gonna have to deal with the fact that
trump is fighting a culture war like the bitcoin maxis like you're gonna come eventually right
We all learn through pain and suffering, like this was the only one.
But if you don't even get into the, you know, on the playing field, you're not going to realize, you know, what you're into.
And so I think Trump is casting this huge, you know, cultural net to get as many people on the field as possible.
And those that don't do their homework are going to get burned. Right.
It's kind of like an adapt or die situation.
And, you know, I think people just need to realize the end goal here is to bring about the end of the Federal Reserve,
to bring about the destruction of the banking fiat cartel
and that these other operations in between
are just a step to get to that direction.
We don't know all the details.
We're not in the skiffs,
but we just have to have some trust
with our leadership and our president
to get the job done.
And I know that's probably not a great answer.
I know your listeners are probably like,
ah, this is just some Trump.
Like, I make fun of Trump all the time.
I call it his shit coins.
I call it the stuff, right?
He's not like, you know, some sacred cow
that we can't not, you know, talk shit to.
But I think we have to realize that numero uno, right, just he put a post the other day about how the banking cartel is literally fighting against these new provisions of the Clarity Act and the Genius Act, which is basically going to, you know, re-engineer our financial system to get rid of fractional reserve banking, right, allow individuals to earn their own interest, right, versus the banks.
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people that are very emotional are going to react to this stuff because they don't they don't take
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What would you say, staying on like Genius Act and Clarity Act,
I think many people are looking at this with a lens of skepticism saying, OK, this is just a way to roundabout co-opt Bitcoin, get it integrated, quote unquote, integrated in the financial system.
And then once that's happening, once that's happened, that's finished, you just create a moat around it and you basically throw up these gates and say, hey, if you're not interacting with Bitcoin via these trusted institutions, you're doing it illegally.
Yeah, look, I think we're on a razor's edge on some of the fact. But if you understand who he's put in his administration, you've got Kevin Warsh, who's his new nomination for Fed chair, who, funny enough, called Bitcoin, right? If you're under 40, it's your new gold. He's got Scott Pescent, who's an absolute Bitcoin maximalist. He's got Howard Letnick.
and so um you know whatever you know people think you can look at his administration and even back in
his first term a lot of bitcoiners didn't pick up on this but he actually hired brian brooks to
become the um director of the occ back in 20 i think it was 17 right during covid and if you
understand the office of the com control the currency like literally is responsible for all
the banking institutions in the u.s back in 2017 brian brooks and steve mnuchin made it legal for
banks to custody Bitcoin, even way back when in Trump's first term, when Trump literally called it,
you know, thin air. Right. And so people don't realize like how big of a Bitcoin maximalist Trump
is. I actually, you know, kind of foretold this in a lot of my research called the Covfefe dig.
I sent it to you. It'd be interesting for you to look at it after this and put it into your AIs
and kind of play with it. But, you know, if you kind of look back and see that Brian Brooks kind
of and see Mnuchin set that up back in the day, even before Trump's second term, and you realize
like what he did with Space Force,
and you see the hash power growth,
and then you see like Mara,
and then you see all these different doors
that he's opening up for crypto.
He's basically letting it be an open playing field,
a pure capitalistic market.
Hey, if you fall for some shit coin,
that's your fault, right?
But at the end of the day,
like crypto is gonna be here.
Individuals at some point won't know
if they're holding US dollars or a US stable coin,
but that it'd be better for them
to hold a stable coin versus a US dollar
because US dollar is backed by nothing, right?
It's just a fractional reserve entry
into a ledger in a bank account where an actual stable coin is actually backed by U.S. treasuries.
And so I think it's a smoother transition. It's less disruptive from going from our standard to
a Bitcoin standard and that the stable coins are kind of that pathway out of our current
troubles and our current mess. It's a slow transition out of this fiat mess we're in
because we've been in it a long time.
And so re-engineering our entire banking apparatus,
by the way, Scott Bessent was the one who re-engineered, right,
the collapse of the Great British Pound, okay?
That's odd. That's unique.
And so maybe he's, like, you know, basically, you know, doing that,
but unwinding it in a positive way.
You know, we see what Michael Saylor's doing
with his engineering of strategy and STRC,
and he's got this flywheel open now,
and, you know, Saylor's known the Trumps for 20 years,
And we've got Starlink. So everybody in the world is going to be connected. We've got flying spaceships.
So like I don't think any of us like actually foretold this future. But if you look at like what AI is bringing and you look at the deflationary curve,
that's that's going right against an inflationary curve because we know on a credit based system they need inflation.
This deflationary storm is going to hit right at a time when they have to print and print a lot more money.
And so I think Trump is intentionally blowing up the banking cartels through a smoother transition than most Bitcoiners are probably like.
Yeah.
How important is self-custody throughout this transition?
Oh, I mean, I don't do not trust anybody.
Like I am an absolute advocate of holding on to your own keys.
Multi-sig is probably the best option.
You want to eliminate the single point of failure because, you know, the only actual exchange you have out there with proof of reserves is river.
OK, Coinbase doesn't have it right. No one else has it.
And the fact of the matter is, is that Trump or anybody at any time could issue a 6102 and freeze everybody's Bitcoin across all exchanges at once.
And so, you know, luckily for me throughout the years, I've got I've managed to lose a very small portion of my Bitcoin through rug pulls and scams and shit coinery.
but if you don't learn those hard lessons in the beginning you're gonna probably pay a lot heftier
price later and so i recommend you learn as much as you can about self self-custodial bitcoin you
learn how to set up your own wallets you know i teach people how to do it all the time but you
know the other part of that right is that you have to weaponize your consent you have to stop
saying yes and complying to tyranny right because again taxation is voluntary you it humiliation
ritual as you put it they make you fill out the forms right they make you sign your name
and you know that's probably the worst part of it because you're actually agreeing to their system
you've when you've signed that document you've purged yourself into basically agreeing to whatever
you've done. And so, um, look, come and take it, right. Come and fucking take it. Let's go back to
1776 where we can tell them to be like, you know what? We're opting out. Um, we'll take the moral
high ground. If you want to come play in our field, you have to negotiate with us. You can no longer
take from us without any consequence, right? There is no consequence for your actions. There is no
way to hold any of these people accountable in this current form and keep, keep logicking yourself
away out of that. Like, keep following the logic. If you can find a different way, Marty,
let me know. I'll be first to, like, explore it with you and see if there's something there. But,
you know, people say a perfect plan later is not as good as a good plan now. And I think the
greatest plan now is for everybody to just stop complying with tyranny, opt out, let them try to
come after all of us. I mean, really, it's a DDoS attack on their enforcement bureaucracy.
seat they can't put us all in prison and let's go man it's a 250th year of 1776 i'm bringing fire
i'm holding a virtual um event on april 15th as a stand-in for not paying your taxes and so
you know it's funny marty marty i was watching this netflix special um last a couple weeks ago
and did you know that like the storm area 51 got like over 2 million people interested in attending
like storming aliens right two million people on facebook wanted to go to this thing and here we are
right like vaccine poisons genocide and i'm like hey guys let's just stop paying our taxes right
i couldn't don't you think we can get more than two million people for that i don't know
and i mean i think you should you should be i mean i think the social environment is uh never
been riper for for such a thing and it's funny it's just um because again it's like the tab
of even having this discussion of not paying your taxes
is such a third rail.
People don't want to touch, but as we've been discussing,
it's gotten to a point where, again,
I view it as a humiliation ritual and truly disgusting
that we have to do this.
There's a fraud that's over the place,
whether it's the bioweapons, the endless wars,
just the pillaging of the social services
that were paying into medicaid medicare whatever it may be it's all been laid bare um obviously
you've been paying attention like we have for many years it's been obvious but like it's been
glaringly obvious in the last six to nine months specifically with just a deluge of uncoverings
that have been hitting the hitting the tape and it's just like what is what is going to wake people
up and that's my biggest worry is i think breck maxwell said this in the context of um bitcoin's
biggest hurdle that it needs to overcome but i think it's it's true beyond bitcoin too it's just
complacency like how many becile sheep are out there complacent individuals who just don't have
the will yeah courage is a lot more rare than intelligence um you know and you know if you look
back at what Trump keeps pushing is the income is the tariffs, right? And if you realize that
the income tax and the Federal Reserve are both created in 1913, and that we funded this country
purely through tariffs before that, then you realize like tariffs are the way we can go without
paying any context. I'm all for a consumption tax, right? If you want to buy a BMW and a German car,
you're going to have to pay that, you know, that consumption tax on that vehicle. But that's a
voluntary choice. You're choosing to buy this product and pay that tax. If you buy it domestically,
you probably don't have that tax. And if you understand that tariffs right now are a double
taxation, they completely are, income tax and a tariff are complete double taxation. But Trump,
I think, is opening up one door for people to see so he can close out other one. I mean,
he's already created the external revenue service. He says he's going to shut down the IRS. He's
already fired 70 of the employees like guys he's already like basically dismantled this freaking
like entity why are we still afraid of this
no i think it's like the fish and water thing right like people have been conditioned their
whole lives i think that was like the most radicalizing thing for me when i first saw
bitcoin is like recognizing that i was a fish and water in the in the context of just like how
I viewed money like I had no idea what it was what it should be and what it could be be until
I found Bitcoin and that was like incredibly radicalizing for me I was like holy crap I've
lived the first 20 years of my life not understanding this thing that I not that I
covet but that I heavily depend on I've been working a job since I was 12 years old had a
bank account since I was like 14. And it's, it wasn't until I was like 2021 where I was like,
Oh, what is this? What is this money thing? I'm questioning it. And I think that's where
mostly the popular, I would argue probably 90 to 95% of people are right now.
Yeah. Right. And the Federal Reserve was created in the middle of the night on Christmas Eve,
right. By a small group of people. And a lot of people don't know that story that it's a private
corporation. You know, I've actually red pilled more people through orange pills than trying to
talk them about politics because nobody likes to be stolen from. And this isn't a red or blue thing.
Like nobody likes to be stolen from. I will gladly join forces with Democrats, right, to stop paying
their taxes. And they should if they if they hate the president so much, like, why are they still
paying their taxes right to this stuff? Right. So this is actually a common goal that we can fight
together that we don't have to even talk politics because all the political talking heads out there
like the Nick Fuentes and the Alex Jones and all these clowns are trying to rope you back into
politics. They want you fighting over the next fricking debate over red versus blue to get you
distracted from the whole fact that they all stealing through us through the monetary system so that they can continue on with their fraud right And so people need to stop falling for that man Like they only selling that stuff is because you guys keep buying it right
Stop buying their bullshit. Opt out.
Yeah. To your point about the Federal Reserve,
that's one thing we've been experimenting with at TFTC.
I think you said it earlier, but we're in this info war.
And in the age of AI, the info war has never been more intense.
And it's a double-edged sword of an info war now because you can be propagandized via these AI tools or you can counter propagandize with them as well.
We actually took the book, A Creature from Jackal Island, and made a script.
And we made a two-minute creation of the Federal Reserve video that's still going viral to this day.
General Flynn actually shared it.
A bunch of other accounts have just ripped it off and they share it.
We don't care.
It's a meme.
It's out there.
We were very proud to have made it and got it out there, and it's gotten tens of millions of views across the internet now at this point.
But it was funny.
I woke up on, I think it was Monday or Tuesday, and General Michael Flynn was sharing the creation of the Federal Reserve video that we made.
General Michael Flynn is actually a big piece of this.
Michael Flynn tweeted about Bitcoin on February 1st, 2015, and he called Bitcoin evolutionary destiny.
okay uh now he did quote an article or did put an article in in far that but if you understand
who general flynn is okay this is a very important person who not only was one of the first people to
break apart pizza gate wiener gate the laptop of anthony wiener and the connection to hillary
glinton and clark primes against children okay uh but he's you know one of the top brass out there
that knows exactly what's going on um he was trump's former national security advisor okay
This is a very smart man. And he was actually part of my journey because I looked up to him and trusted him from his past that him tweeting about Bitcoin was a very, very big thing.
And if you understand February 1st, February 1st is the passing of the 13th Amendment, which was basically right.
Non-indentured servitude about slavery. OK, and you start kind of piecing some of these things together.
there's very symbolic meaning through a lot of what's going on and little like tidbits here and
there, right? You had Michael Saylor with his first purchase averaging out to $11,111 and $111.
And, you know, that kind of goes into some of my thesis through connections, but you'll probably
find that a fun rabbit hole to, to explore. Yeah. I mean, so I guess this is the other,
against steel manning we're saying i'm a big like i go back and forth and then i think most of the
time i'm a big believer of um nobody's really in control like there is no master plan like everybody's
retarded at the top and you'd be shocked if you got in the rooms and and saw how they're viewing
they're viewed as these these master sort of uh planners and executors but in reality they're
they're no more extraordinary than, than somebody who's competent running a business.
So that's like where I think I've a lot of where a lot of the time I'll settle. It's like, Hey,
like, I want to believe that there is some master plan. There is some strategy behind all this in a,
in a long-term calculated move towards a freer future. But I find it hard to believe that a lot
of this isn't just coincidence and it's just a bunch of, um, a bunch of people that don't know
what they're doing. Yeah. I kind of like to think of it. Like imagine if, um, if like humanity was
just given the perfect money and you didn't have guardrails on things, you were allowed to pursue
new technologies. You were allowed to pursue things. And I think like this master plan I talk
about, is it like a master plan where they're controlling everything they're controlling the
red lines, right? The network, the hash rate, like maybe some of that stuff they're like making sure
are working and making sure adoption is happening worldwide to some degree, but they're not like
individually, like, you know, picking out scenarios and doing this thing. But imagine if you just gave
them world perfect money and you let people be productive and you didn't have the guardrails
through, um, you know, the wall street rigging and all these other things, right? Because Tesla was
one of the most shorted stocks on earth. Now it's micro strategy. Okay. You don't let certain
institutions fail, right? You maybe protect a couple of them and you just let humans do what
they do. You don't have to protect everything, right? Because we generally, most of us are good
people. We just want to live our lives and have a good time and be productive and make money
and do all the things. And, you know, I think that's what it, what it was. It wasn't like
we had to control everything. It's like, let's just give humans perfect money and let's just
see what happens because at the end of the day, like there's more good people than bad
and they can absolutely overturn this small group of people controlling everything just through their
ingenuity through their courage and through all these other things so i like to be on the hope
side of things i'm like hey we're like in great position to win this thing where a lot of bitcoiners
and a lot of monger they're like dooming out and like what if this happens i want to trust the plan
but like trump made me feel bad and it's like man like like we're like what a time to be alive that
we get to fight this thing in the early stage of this, they're going to look at, you know,
back a hundred years and be like, did you know those guys pay taxes to pedophiles? You know,
like it's going to be a joke in the future. And so, um, I'm just super like, you know,
happy and motivated and optimistic about the time we're in right now, because it's absolutely our
time to shine and to win this thing. And we've got them against the ropes. And you know, I'm just,
I'm just super happy to be doing this. I have to, I'm very hopeful, very optimistic. And again,
It's hard not to be optimistic when you're in Bitcoin, particularly when you're using Bitcoin.
Like I've, every time I pull out a hardware wallet or move Bitcoin from a multi-sig address to another address,
like the magic of knowing that, hey, I've got private key on this thing and I hit a button, it signs it.
Nobody else has access to this.
It's magic.
It is incredibly empowering.
And I am optimistic.
And it is easy.
That's one thing I'm trying to get better at, like doom scrolling.
You have to recognize we're in a psychological war right now, an info war as well.
And they're trying to attack your mind at all hours of the day, every day, the week, every year that you've been alive.
Trying to internalize that reality and recognize as you're perusing the web or social media, whatever it may be, that you're under attack.
I think it's much easier to operate with that reality in mind.
And anybody would deny that reality is completely idiotic.
It's happening. It's documented.
Oh, yeah.
We know it is.
And that's the, there was one thing you said that triggered
sort of another thought of discussion that we could go down.
It's escaping me right now.
But this whole, I think, idea of individual agency is something that has been a theme on the podcast, particularly with the emergence of these AI tools.
Like you can do things, you can engage in the info war much better than you ever could before now.
and I think just engendering that agency
and people get out and actually do things peacefully,
creatively, articulately,
and from a position of moral authority is important.
That's the other thing I was going to...
I remember what I was going to say,
which is I'm curious if you're religious and all,
because I'm Catholic.
I think we're in a battle of good and evil right now,
and that's the main lens through which I view this
and I view Bitcoin.
Absolutely.
I think we're in a spiritual battle.
This isn't a battle of flesh.
This is a very deep spiritual battle.
I'm not super religious.
My kids, you know, went to a Christian school and I kind of lean that way.
But I think a lot of organized religion is captured and kind of an extension of the state.
Right.
We saw how many churches were shut down.
We see that many churches who literally talk about bondage and slavery and read about the Israelites leaving the pharaohs.
Okay.
We talk about, you know, all these things.
And here they are in real life, literally battling the same thing.
And none of them, right?
I'm actually super disappointed in the evangelical community because so many of them have been
pussified through their pastors and their mega churches that like, how many of them are
going to open up their books?
Have you seen the books to your church?
Right?
Like how many people, how many pastors will open up their books?
Like, yeah, come on in.
How many, right?
Organizations still take in satanic money, satanic energy money through only dollars,
right?
And why do they do that? What are they protected by? They're protected by a 501c3. How does that 501c3 protect them for no taxes? Well, that means they got to shut their fucking mouth. They're not allowed to say certain things because if they do, they lose their tax free status.
And so, you know, I try to be, you know, like hopeful with the evangelical community, but I don't see a lot of signal coming from them at all.
They're kind of like hope and pray and like, let's hopefully like things will get better where it's like, hey, man, like pick up a rock, pick up a digital rock.
Don't throw it at anybody. You just got to have like a digital shield.
OK, and like practice what you preach and stop being a freaking hypocrite, because like this is a time you're alive.
So when you get to the pearly gates and God is there and God's like, Hey man, so I see here that you had a choice to pay your taxes to pedophiles.
Like, yeah, God, but like, bro, like they were going to put me in jail and he's going to be like, so you continually supported genocide, um, mutilation and all these different evil things on the premise that you were afraid to go to jail.
That just doesn't jive with me, man.
Like you got to pick a side, bro.
You're either in the spiritual battle or you're a domesticated sheep and your religion doesn't really mean anything to you.
So I'm calling out the evangelicals that hurt some people, somebody's feelings.
That's that's too bad.
I guess I know.
Yeah, it is hard.
It's hard to get.
Yeah, it's hard to get over.
I think the fear, the fear and the threat of violence on the other side of not paying your taxes is is very paralyzing for many people.
On purpose.
Right.
They, you know, Joe Biden hired 87,000 IRS agents.
They're going to use AI to track everybody.
You know, they come to my door, eat a bag, man.
You're going to take me in, go ahead, right?
You can't take my energy.
And imagine if more people did this.
Imagine, you know, what do you have, like, the military going to everybody's houses,
trying to find their seed phrases.
Like, the operation of manpower it would take to do that is unfathomable at this point.
And really, like, you know, all of us Bitcoiners, I go back to that, what's that movie?
uh freaking uh uh i've like vince vaughn it's like you're like this big freaking bear man with
these fangs and these claws and like the evil central bankers it's like this bunny man yeah
it's like swingers yeah swingers he's like you've got this bunny man this bunny is you're just like
batting it around but you've got these like fangs and claws and you're just like you're not you're
not killing the bunny man kill the bunny right like you're weaponized now it's the power is within
you and everybody's just like i'm afraid of the bunny right like what about the bunny what if it
you know bites me or something anyways it's just kind of comical that we've literally let it go this
far um and here we are right like hopefully my message wakes up more people um you know i'll be
speaking at the bitcoin conference i did a session on digital 1776 last year i'll be doing a session
on how bitcoin strengthens constitutional rights um because bitcoin is a second amendment right
it's a first amendment right right it's all the rights it is the internet bill of rights in
cyberspace protected by watts, joules per second that nobody can take from you. And we need to
start using it as a weapon system and not just a monetary system. And so you think it's going to
be a big year for Bitcoin? Absolutely. I think it's going to be massive. Yeah, I think there's
going to be something special happening around July 4th, hopefully around the 250th anniversary.
You know, I'm not a number go up fiat guy, but you know, I always look at hash rate. And
as far as I know, we're winning, man. Right. The hash rate is all that really matters to a lot of
us. And so, you know, price will go up at some point, you know, when that happens, who knows,
but you know, we'll be here for it. Why hash rate specifically? Well, hash rate is the power of the
network is the military. And if you understand that right, right now, the hash rate is probably
five X, the size of our entire U S Navy distributed across the globe. You realize that it would take
51% or more of that energy source to attack the network, to change the ledger, to confiscate your
Bitcoins. And so when you realize the military of our network is the strongest on the planet
that cannot be effed with, and that you realize as an individual, Gabriel's horn, you can harness
the entire wattage of the entire network with self-custodial Bitcoin to protect you.
then you realize like you are protected by a might that is just enormous at this point that cannot be defeated.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at the hash right now. Back above one Zeta hash.
Oh, nice. It's funny. Quantum fear. Miners were unplugging because of quantum.
But it was really the weather in the south southwest section of the United States.
G money has been fascinating. Anything we didn't touch on that we should tell the audience before we leave.
No, I don't know, man.
I think, you know, you guys can catch me on Rumble.
I'm specifically on Rumble on Thursday nights.
I host a show called Rugpull Radio.
I've had military generals on.
I've had Michael Saylor on.
So I've had some pretty big guests on.
But if you want to see the other side of the conspiracy rabbit hole,
come join us on Rumble.
I'm on X's G Money Pepe.
There's a whole Pepe rabbit hole maybe we can get into on another show.
But that's a whole nother rabbit hole.
I've got some of the rarest Pepe's.
I've got some of the rarest original.
Wait, so are you a rare Pepe guy?
not i mean i am an appreciator i uh i had joe looney on the show gosh this was 2017 2018
um he was one of the original counterparty rare pepe guys and he uh he gifted me
uh an open dime with a bunch of rare pepes on on them yeah okay so so that's the next rabbit hole
of i believe tokenization is going to be the next level for bitcoin that expands the entire network
and smart contracts and digital credit
that Michael Saylor keeps talking about
is the way to do it
because not everybody's going to get a chance
to hold real Bitcoin.
They're going to have some derivative of it.
And if you understand that counterparty
layer two through OpReturn
is the only thermodynamically layer of Bitcoin layer two
that's ever been basically generated
because the creation of this protocol
was done through the burning of Bitcoin.
And if you understand the burning of Bitcoin
where Bitcoins were sent to a provably unspendable Bitcoin address, right?
And if you understand thermodynamics,
that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transmuted.
Okay, what is that?
Well, the burned Bitcoin is not burned.
It's just been transmuted into a different life form
because there was no ICO, there was no central authority
that issued these tokens.
And so Counterparty is something very, very special
that a lot of Bitcoiners are not understanding
and that it's going to absolutely revolutionize the entire DeFi market.
We'll talk about it another time maybe.
But yeah, if you look at my dig, the Pepes and Counterparty are big.
I had the pleasure of knowing Joe Looney, Dan Anderson.
A lot of the people worked on Counterparty.
I love those guys.
Awesome.
They're all great Bitcoiners.
They're all Bitcoin maxis.
They're all great dudes.
Yeah.
Well, G Money, this has been great.
Thank you, sir.
thanks for having me on Marty this was a pleasure
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