1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,180 Okay, so what I was about to say is it's actually good to be learning things right now, because the times, oh, they are a-changing. 2 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:19,000 Like, there are, so, you know, a few episodes ago, you know, we mentioned that we did our, you know, biannual or whatever Project Zomboid thing, right? 3 00:00:19,780 --> 00:00:26,880 But we actually missed the boat, come to find out, for, like, Zomboid being really fucking cool. 4 00:00:28,380 --> 00:00:29,120 Oh, really? 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,260 yeah so a lot of 6 00:00:31,260 --> 00:00:34,980 we've been pretty open here that we're not anti-ai 7 00:00:34,980 --> 00:00:36,980 like we're anti 8 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:38,820 thievery 9 00:00:38,820 --> 00:00:41,200 but we're not 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,320 anti-ai because ai in and of itself 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,820 isn't thievery 12 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:47,180 I gotta admit I don't have 13 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:49,140 a whole lot of empathy for those really obnoxious 14 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:50,720 artists on twitter like yeah 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,200 theft is wrong sure but like if you're gonna be a little 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,120 bitch about it like 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,980 I'm not gonna defend them 18 00:00:56,980 --> 00:00:58,540 so 19 00:00:58,540 --> 00:01:04,400 So, quick sidebar, why I don't love them for, or love those guys. 20 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:10,460 One, I'm old enough that I remember when digital art really started getting popular. 21 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:16,420 I'm old enough that I remember when drawing tablets started hitting the market. 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Both of those times, the exact same style of argument, not the exact same argument, 23 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,520 because obviously 3B3 wasn't really on the table at the time, 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:31,160 the exact same style of argument of oh it's gonna put me out of a job well then learn how to fucking 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,900 draw again learn how to draw better learn how to do something that the bot can't do better than you 26 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:42,060 also another thing too like other industries like when electronic music started becoming a thing 27 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:50,540 yeah i love drum and bass made fun of well not even just that but like you so you know i like 28 00:01:50,540 --> 00:01:58,980 one of the one of my fallbacks for when i'm doing like notes and shit for my job is actually a um 29 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:07,440 an ai artist and they get the instruments right you know it doesn't matter how obscure how like 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,900 anything it doesn't matter how obscure that that really encompasses it they get the instrument 31 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:21,280 correct so again and digital and you can do do an entire fucking like symphony of instruments 32 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,600 digitally not even with ai so speaking of i had a plan so normally when i edit this podcast right 33 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,560 um i have a whole workflow where i load up all three audio tracks and audacity that's what mumble 34 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:40,020 provides me with the multiplexed output right um and i listen back to the show um i skip around 35 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:43,540 uh after the first 20 minutes i get make sure the first 20 minutes are super crisp right 36 00:02:43,540 --> 00:02:49,040 um i i mute my track because i i am the one with the gain problems but i'm the one recording so we 37 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:55,700 just deal with it um but like every time like one of us interrupts the other to like make a point 38 00:02:55,700 --> 00:03:02,380 or something i usually like edit out the people who lose the the talking stick right and make it 39 00:03:02,380 --> 00:03:07,840 sound a lot more cohesive and it's like so with this episode uh melomancy podcast episode 130 40 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,160 uh hello everybody my name is dylan uh i am going to actually try to see if i can edit with open 41 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,080 code this time because it's like there's a very finite number of things i actually change 42 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,580 on the cutting room floor and it's like i think an a i could probably do it i'll probably try it 43 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:30,280 it would save me like two hours or i was really it's more because i keep pausing and editing and 44 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,740 then resuming and i do listen to the entire episode right so it's like it's kind of a lot 45 00:03:34,740 --> 00:03:41,220 of work yeah it is so uh dear listener if this all sounds a little scuffed uh open code fucked 46 00:03:41,220 --> 00:03:47,760 it up blame quinn blame alibaba right fuck you quinn i know thanks alibaba good job though i love 47 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,640 fucking quinn dude holy shit yeah quinn's my fallback whenever i'm do whenever i you know get 48 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,960 off my ass and start doing uh ai code stuff absolutely because quinn is free quinn is free 49 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:05,960 and i'm a gamer i have the gamer graphics card amd 7900 xt with 20 gigs vram so it's like yeah i i 50 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:11,140 can run quen and i can set up open code so it does like context compaction and i can let it run 51 00:04:11,140 --> 00:04:16,080 overnight i built tetris overnight uh that's pretty funny so dear listener the context we came out 52 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,640 swinging talking about ai all of a sudden you probably wonder what the fuck you guys talking 53 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,040 about so right before we started recording i was talking to my friends here uh about um i had a job 54 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:31,300 interview uh i i have a job i like my job i have a promotion path at my job but this was a unique 55 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:36,300 opportunity and i wanted to do my best so i it's my first job interview in like like almost nine 56 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:41,560 years and i studied and studied and uh i might have bungled it i might have gotten i don't know 57 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:47,300 it's too soon to know um but i had a really strong referral so we'll see uh but i'm not going to tell 58 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:53,460 you where um but that's okay uh point is that i've been learning a lot of shit lately and um what 59 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:59,800 spot on this conversation before i started hitting record was uh learning stuff is really fun and i 60 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:05,820 haven't been playing a lot of video games yeah well and so yeah i might keep doing it i don't know like 61 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:10,640 my i could feel my life changing before my eyes it's like 62 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,720 yeah the ps5 is collecting dust i have a funny story about that in a minute but like 63 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,900 handhelds i got time for handhelds right but it's the portability that it's like almost 64 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:27,980 fucking required right if it wasn't portable i don't think i'd play it um but it's like i want 65 00:05:27,980 --> 00:05:32,540 more out of my living room too i have i have an anecdote actually the reason why i think the 66 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:39,580 switch 2 is probably a really good fit for me so there i was last night right um you know i 67 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:45,060 i did a bunch of uh i did the dishes i did a bunch of chores i was tired i worked 68 00:05:45,060 --> 00:05:50,580 right it was the end of the day we were winding down i boot up the steam deck it's docked to my 69 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:55,400 my uh my tv in the living room i pull out the 8-bit dough controller i don't have a steam 70 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,680 controller um and i i boot up a bunch of games maybe you saw me launching games last night because 71 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:08,040 i was online i don't know if you saw that um but i i booted up a couple games i go for a ps1 game 72 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:14,400 it was it was gex entered the gecko if you must know um fucking duck station had an update and 73 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,420 it requires me to touch the touch screen to say yeah go ahead and download that right like the 74 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:24,740 controller like i have no path to clicking that button in that with the way it's docked to the tv 75 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:30,760 and it's like fuck i don't want to get up i don't want to go handheld so i i stopped it and i booted 76 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,860 up something else and i played for a little bit and i stopped it i ended up playing clover pit 77 00:06:34,860 --> 00:06:39,680 because clover pit is like a lot of people like clover pit clover pit's fucking awesome it's that 78 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,580 perfect like um roguelike you only need a few minutes to really get far and enjoy it you know 79 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:52,300 your runs are short but brutal um it's like shorter than balatro but with that same like 80 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:57,820 let's go gambling i'm really enjoying this kind of like chaos right clover pit is is a is a good 81 00:06:57,820 --> 00:07:02,660 fit for me that and um my dad and i spend a lot of time at the casino he used to call it going to 82 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:08,380 church we were doing on sundays it was awesome um so slot machines have a special place in my heart 83 00:07:08,380 --> 00:07:15,100 um but besides the point and as much as i love clover pit it's like if i was playing on the 84 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:20,860 switch too i could just dock it and it would just fucking work and i'm getting old tinkering with 85 00:07:20,860 --> 00:07:26,840 stuff is fun like i believe me it was really fun to get duet night abyss and nte working on the 86 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,100 steam deck but nte is 100 fucking gigs i had to remove it to make space for monster hunter 87 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:37,740 um which i played a little bit of that last night too um i hunted a couple monsters that was all 88 00:07:37,740 --> 00:07:45,080 right um but it's just it's so ugly on my big beautiful tv on a steam deck running on potato 89 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,760 graphics like i might as well have gone to my uh like we were talking about last episode like i 90 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,680 should have just put up the projector and sat down on the in the seat but it was you know i didn't 91 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,320 want to be in there i spent so much time and energy studying for this interview that i was 92 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,880 just kind of sick of my pc and i didn't know what to do with myself and it's like that's what the 93 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:12,840 handhelds are for it's like the good screen is in your hands and the background is whatever you make 94 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:19,140 it and it's like because i spent so much time on these two screens doing productive work and now 95 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:24,020 studying it's like it's kind of hard to use it for anything else it's like i still can't shake it 96 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:32,020 still there you know what was uh this is how i was feeling last night at least yeah um so not to 97 00:08:32,020 --> 00:08:36,260 we i gotta be fair and come full circle since we were talking about projects on boy briefly 98 00:08:36,260 --> 00:08:41,960 that's how i started the ai because let's be fair a lot of the coding is done with ai that's why 99 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,260 started with that. 100 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,200 And 101 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,240 I've got a first person 102 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,240 mod. Like, first 103 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,700 third person mod. Not just one. 104 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,160 I think currently there are three of them 105 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,100 that have popped up basically all at the same time. Maybe 106 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:58,380 they're stealing each other's code. I don't particularly 107 00:08:58,380 --> 00:08:59,680 give a shit. It's a free mark. 108 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,140 Straight up, when it comes to 109 00:09:02,140 --> 00:09:03,680 mods, if nobody's getting paid, 110 00:09:04,380 --> 00:09:06,120 I genuinely don't give a shit if they're 111 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,640 cribbing off each other. I know some people 112 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,1000 go, oh, woe is beside. It's my work. But 113 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,340 Like if there's no money being exchanged, who gives a shit? 114 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,660 And I don't think there are. 115 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,660 Oh my goodness. 116 00:09:14,660 --> 00:09:20,220 I've seen so many pretentious tweets on Twitter of people who are like, you know, oh, woe is me. 117 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,120 The modding hobby is getting ruined. 118 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:25,200 I can't touch mods that have AI. 119 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,300 And it's like, why? 120 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:28,320 Who did they steal from? 121 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Also, it's programming. 122 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:37,100 what i i love i i would point out more specifically is that 123 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:46,360 when it comes to this stuff right like i can't touch stuff with ai people by and large are just 124 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:53,180 performative do you play modern games games that were and i mean any game whatsoever that's been 125 00:09:53,180 --> 00:10:00,380 made in the past three years then if you do you don't actually give a shit about ai if it's on 126 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:06,880 if it's on unreal 5 fucking ai out the wazoo on that bitch that's the only reason unreal 5 works 127 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:16,200 is like two-thirds of it is ai you own a modern nvidia card fucking ai um actually no you own a 128 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,660 modern graphics card yeah that yeah if you use windows if you don't use windows do you use do 129 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:29,120 you use apple do you use um you know ubuntu linux like two-thirds of linux distros right now are ai 130 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,740 based. And if you pop 131 00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:33,120 on top of that, if you're using Google 132 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,000 Chrome, or 133 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,940 honestly, most 134 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:38,820 Chromium browsers, realistically. 135 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Yeah. Oh, no, I get it. 136 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,380 Do you comment on YouTube? 137 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Because you're feeding the AI machine there, too. 138 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:47,060 Do you go to Reddit? You're feeding the AI 139 00:10:47,060 --> 00:10:49,000 machine? No, like, AI 140 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,540 is here, and it is 141 00:10:50,540 --> 00:10:52,940 in the worst state it will 142 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:54,900 ever be from this point forward 143 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:56,080 right this second. 144 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,920 By the time this podcast uploads, 145 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,300 you know, tomorrow, there might have been another breakthrough somewhere. 146 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,220 Yeah, there might have been. 147 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,860 And so, like, so anyways, I know I did. 148 00:11:11,060 --> 00:11:15,560 So let me get this ordered properly before we sidebar into more AI topics. 149 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:19,640 So there are three first person, third person mods functioning beautifully. 150 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,680 They're all a little distinct from each other, which is actually kind of cool, in my opinion. 151 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,840 So you can kind of pick the one you like. 152 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 And they all are pretty lightweight, so they just work. 153 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Then somebody else like there are some NPC mods coming in lately because Project Zomboid doesn natively have NPCs just the zombies And so there are a couple of those that are coming up Again stolen code controversy I getting a Somebody else redid theirs 154 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,040 because two of their developers 155 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,000 were just flat stealing somebody else's code. 156 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:58,000 And so they just completely shut it down and restarted it. 157 00:11:58,420 --> 00:12:01,840 So good on them for that one, for having, you know, morals. 158 00:12:02,620 --> 00:12:05,420 Because there is a difference between actually stealing code 159 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:07,080 versus if an AI does it. 160 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:10,480 I do because yeah, anyways. 161 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:11,020 Yeah. 162 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,160 The problem with the stolen code part is like, it's really kind of abstract. 163 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,620 Cause like, I understand companies can have closed source programs and intellectual property, 164 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:25,500 but it's like, um, a company can't own like the most like mathematically correct and precise 165 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:28,120 way to like sort an array, for example. 166 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Right. 167 00:12:28,620 --> 00:12:33,440 And it's like, yeah, a company might have a proprietary algorithm that they, they think 168 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,460 is the best way to sort an array and they don't tell people how they make it. 169 00:12:36,460 --> 00:12:36,740 Right. 170 00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:41,800 Like they can, they can own intellectual property on that, but it's like discovering a theorem in math. 171 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,660 It's like someone else is going to figure it out and you can't sue them. 172 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Like that doesn't make sense. 173 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:48,600 So it's like these AIs, yeah, sure. 174 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:56,660 They're probably trained on a lot of private proprietary code, but like there's these like programming fundamentals that are baked into the LLM that it's really good at. 175 00:12:57,100 --> 00:13:03,520 It's like learning out of a textbook, but it has all the textbooks ever written and it can like search through them and memorize them and shit. 176 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,360 You know, it's like, it's like not the same thing as the art argument. 177 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,280 And there's people making the art argument on the mods and it doesn't make sense. 178 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,340 They don't know what they're talking about. 179 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:18,660 Like, uh, I would say, and I'll let you get back to your zomboid point in a minute here. 180 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:26,220 But, uh, I would say, uh, the threat of the AI mods and the AI D comps, we can talk about 181 00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:26,720 D comps later. 182 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,620 That's another big problem. 183 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:28,260 Right. 184 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:33,200 Um, it is unmaintained projects because you'll get these vibe coders or these people that 185 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,000 like have a clod subscription or whatever right and they really want a thing to exist and they 186 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,480 will it into existence using their tokens that is their right but if they don't have like modding 187 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,040 experience and they don't have a plan to maintain the thing that they made then it's um it's 188 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,980 abandonware right yeah it'll work for now and it might be the coolest fucking thing you've played 189 00:13:52,980 --> 00:13:59,560 in a while and it might not actually have any problems but like you you don't have any confidence 190 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,600 that it's going to be maintained long-term. 191 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,920 You don't know if it's going to break 192 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,120 after your device updates, right? 193 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Those are real problems that, you know, 194 00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:12,280 you could solve with more AI, 195 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:14,400 but that's not going to make the haters happy. 196 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:16,140 No, it really isn't. 197 00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:20,940 And, you know, for some degree, 198 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:24,660 I do actually understand where the haters come from, right? 199 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:27,060 Like, because I actually do agree with them 200 00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:29,360 when they're saying, well, this isn't working. 201 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:37,960 or this has uh not not this isn't working this um you know you have no idea how this works 202 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,600 you know what they're not wrong it's like drywalling and painting my new room in the 203 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:50,280 garage uh didn't cost a craftsman their job it didn't um ruin the craftsman's industry 204 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,280 but it's something you know destiny and i did together that was really cool she did almost all 205 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,080 all the work. I also 206 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,260 really stress 207 00:14:59,260 --> 00:15:01,920 my belief, right? 208 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:03,020 Because it is my belief. 209 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,000 And maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not. 210 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,660 I don't care. That 211 00:15:07,660 --> 00:15:10,040 if you're not better than the bot, 212 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,720 you don't deserve. 213 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,100 And nobody deserves anything. I'm not saying 214 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:14,960 I deserve work. 215 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,200 I worked hard for my degree. 216 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:19,640 I work hard at my job. But if 217 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,280 tomorrow they made 218 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,260 a robot that 219 00:15:24,260 --> 00:15:25,860 completely replaced me, 220 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,200 and I couldn't 221 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,460 argue my existence, 222 00:15:31,140 --> 00:15:32,700 then I gotta put the fries 223 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:33,360 in the bag, man. 224 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,780 Like, I still got bills to pay, 225 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:38,720 and bitching about it doesn't solve 226 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,680 anything. Yeah. Honestly, yeah. 227 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:42,480 I mean, that's the big thing, is like, 228 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,660 it's going to 229 00:15:44,660 --> 00:15:46,660 continue to evolve, and I mean, there's 230 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:48,460 people who say that it's plateaued and 231 00:15:48,460 --> 00:15:50,560 whatever, right? And even if that were 232 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,480 entirely true, which I don't think it is, I mean, 233 00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:54,600 we're seeing it do 234 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,520 leaps and bounds. It's not. AI has not 235 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,040 plateaued. 236 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,500 But even if it did, 237 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:02,480 it's like getting 238 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,580 mad about it, getting angry, or even just 239 00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:06,520 being complacent about it. You don't even need 240 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,940 to be mad about it, necessarily. 241 00:16:10,060 --> 00:16:10,540 And 242 00:16:10,540 --> 00:16:12,720 not at least understanding how it works 243 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,440 more than, you know, being 244 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,140 better than it is 245 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:20,620 probably a horrendous 246 00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:22,420 mistake. It's just not 247 00:16:22,420 --> 00:16:24,440 a good idea. 248 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,380 I was thinking about it too 249 00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:27,520 about the vibe coding part 250 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,240 we had this issue in Vintage Story where 251 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,420 several modders vibe coded out mods 252 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:34,500 and then couldn't maintain 253 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,480 them and couldn't fix them and then they broke over 254 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:36,900 time 255 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:39,840 one even got so mad on 256 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 the discord he was like oh you guys are just angry at me 257 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,500 for vibe coding and the devs were like 258 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:46,200 no we don't care 259 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,480 about that at all it's just your mod 260 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,020 doesn't fucking work 261 00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:51,720 right and it's like 262 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,540 it's a tool in the hands of 263 00:16:54,540 --> 00:17:00,460 an amateur right and that's okay yeah you should strive to get better i think that's i think that's 264 00:17:00,460 --> 00:17:05,040 the kind of the good part right is like people like oh i don't need to code anymore it's like 265 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,520 no but you should still understand how to read it you should understand how to parse it because 266 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:16,160 if something fucks up and let's say it fucks up like i don't know maybe between sessions and your 267 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,480 ai is having a hard time even picking up on it um maybe you're not getting the proper error code or 268 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,760 whatever, right? So you should at least understand how to read this shit to avoid potential problems. 269 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:32,600 It's kind of the whole learn how to do math, even though you have a calculator. It's like, 270 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,120 yeah, my calculator can do the math for me. And I realistically, I'm at a point, we're at a point 271 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:41,060 now where you might as well be using the fucking calculator instead of doing it yourself. But, 272 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:46,340 you know, there is always the chance that you need to go back and be like, okay, wait, 273 00:17:46,340 --> 00:17:49,600 something fucked up. I need to understand why it fucked up. 274 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,760 And I think, I think that's a part that people forget a lot too. 275 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:54,700 Um, 276 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,400 I remember I, in high school, I had this Casio calculator that, um, did, um, 277 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:06,660 the math equivalent of rich text, like, um, displaying the answer, but it was 278 00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:08,580 like a, it was a switch you could turn on and off. 279 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:11,620 So when the teacher was like, Hey, your calculator is not one of them. 280 00:18:11,620 --> 00:18:11,860 Right. 281 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,160 And I, I like, I hit the switch. 282 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,260 I'm like, yeah, look, I did like some division or something. 283 00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:18,320 And it was like just numbers, a decimal. 284 00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:18,700 Right. 285 00:18:18,860 --> 00:18:20,620 And then I turn it back on. 286 00:18:20,620 --> 00:18:21,180 It's like, oh yeah. 287 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,180 I was ahead of the curve before AI was a thing. 288 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:26,760 I get it. 289 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:29,020 Well, actually, funny enough, you mentioned that, though. 290 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:38,600 There were kids I knew in high school who coded their TI-83s, 291 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:46,100 and some of them were so robust at it that we had one professor, 292 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:47,100 our calculus professor. 293 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:50,940 He would actually take clones of it because he'd make them wipe out their calculators. 294 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,680 because they were building functions. 295 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,640 He didn't mind that they were building functions, 296 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,460 but on the test, he wouldn't let them do it. 297 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,100 Wow. 298 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,740 But yeah, he would, again, take a mirror of it 299 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:06,140 so that they could save it, 300 00:19:06,940 --> 00:19:08,660 save the state, and then wipe it. 301 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:12,220 And after the test, he got everything back. 302 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,460 I've seen people run Doom on that thing. 303 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:17,640 It could be done. 304 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:20,400 It's pretty fucking sweet, actually. 305 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,180 Yeah. 306 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:27,580 And this was back in the early 2000s, so it was possible that the professor had to make... 307 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:28,780 Oh, no, I don't think he did. 308 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:35,220 I bet they had programs that did the calculator cloning on, like, your Windows desktop and shit. 309 00:19:35,740 --> 00:19:36,520 Now that I'm thinking about it. 310 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:37,620 But if he didn't, he didn't. 311 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:37,920 Whatever. 312 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,660 The point being, that kid ended up going off to Berkeley. 313 00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:42,820 So, like, don't get me wrong. 314 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,240 He was extremely good. 315 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,440 From Oklahoma to Berkeley. 316 00:19:49,940 --> 00:19:51,320 Bright future ahead. 317 00:19:51,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Oh yeah, dude. No, he, uh, we had a, uh, we had an AP test for chemistry that I was in on. 318 00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:06,640 He did not take AP chemistry. He still came in to take the class or take the test. 319 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,440 Oh, nice. Yeah. He was just that good. He was like, from my physics alone, 320 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,720 I should be able to pass the, uh, AP chemistry test. 321 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,980 it's all about interest it's like uh there's this video i saw that explained it really well 322 00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:27,140 um i don't remember the name so i'm not going to link it but um there's this video i saw 323 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:31,700 explaining that you know tutorial hell like is not a good way to learn something so if like you're 324 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:37,780 thinking about modding a game and you either are planning to go like full ai or you want to like 325 00:20:37,780 --> 00:20:43,540 you know have training wheels or something right it's like um the coding tutorials are a trap 326 00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:48,600 i feel like it's not for everyone because like if you're not interested in the thing that you're 327 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:55,920 doing you're not going to remember it you know exactly like honestly a really good example that 328 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,780 you that i think i can give for that it's it's the same reason why i smashed through 329 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:03,820 like the confirm button on every tutorial in any video game ever 330 00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:10,960 it's like i i'm not gonna learn how to play your game it's either gonna come to me or it's not like 331 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,500 that's it. 332 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,000 That's all there is to take the Xenoblade 2 approach. 333 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,040 They teach you very little at a time. 334 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Yeah. 335 00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:18,920 Well, I do. 336 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,700 And also that's part of it, right? 337 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:23,840 Like, so it and I'm not saying every 338 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,200 like resources like this, 339 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,620 but there are a lot of them that are designed to get you 340 00:21:30,420 --> 00:21:33,420 to where you know enough that you feel obligated to keep coming back. 341 00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:37,800 And your free tokens will run out eventually. 342 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,620 Yeah. 343 00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:46,040 I mean, I think that's why I sat down and bothered to learn AI at all, is that I could just trial and error my way through it. 344 00:21:46,900 --> 00:22:00,000 I got to learn all of its parameters just by fucking shooting the shit with it or coming up with random projects and just seeing if they'd work and shit like that. 345 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:07,360 Yeah, like right now, my interest is the Go programming language, but I don't know what to build with it yet. 346 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:14,180 like i had an ai fart out twitter that was cool not twitter tetris that was cool right um but like 347 00:22:14,180 --> 00:22:19,320 what i want is i want go to be like my new scripting language because like at work i write 348 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,960 a lot of python scripts to like automate like trivial bullshit which i mean ai is probably a 349 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,980 lot better than i am right but it's like kind of like my go-to for i need like a little program 350 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:36,200 privately to like crunch some data or do a thing right and it's like yeah python was my go-to for 351 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:44,580 that and it's like go would be way more fun and efficient and uh portable um because when you 352 00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:49,620 compile a program into go it just it just shits out an executable that has everything inside 353 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:54,640 that's pretty cool so if i were to do that in python it's like oh you got to download the 354 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,240 python program you got to download all the dependencies it needs to be connected to the 355 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,000 internet and all this shit it's like if you have a executable from go it's like 356 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,400 Do you have permission to run it? 357 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:06,560 Run it. 358 00:23:07,140 --> 00:23:07,780 It works. 359 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,460 Very Windows-like in that way, where it's like, it's just an executable file that works. 360 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:19,620 That's actually quite nice, because the little projects I was going through on Python were fucking hell. 361 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:30,620 I know Also Python kind of sucks for large projects that have lots of files If Like if you doing like a serverless function like a AWS Lambda thing right It like okay yeah a couple of files is fine 362 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,320 Right. 363 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,940 Um, cause you might have, you know, a couple of classes here and there, like maybe you're 364 00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:41,280 going to connect to like a cloud service or something, uh, like Amazon, like S3 bucket 365 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,601 or whatever. 366 00:23:41,601 --> 00:23:42,040 Right. 367 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Um, that makes sense. 368 00:23:44,501 --> 00:23:48,200 Uh, but like once your program is like got a bunch of files and it's like super complicated, 369 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,220 Python fucking sucks. 370 00:23:49,841 --> 00:23:52,680 And there's all these weird race conditions. 371 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,620 Like, um, I can't remember any off the top of my head, but it's like, 372 00:23:56,620 --> 00:24:00,620 sometimes your, your arguments like are inconsistently in the right order. 373 00:24:01,060 --> 00:24:03,900 Um, and like, there's a bunch of like weird, like memory management things 374 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:06,640 that might've been resolved in a more recent version than when I heard 375 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,720 about these things, but it's like, that really demotivated me from going 376 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,521 the distance on Python. 377 00:24:10,521 --> 00:24:13,241 It's like, it's good for scripting. 378 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:14,001 That's about it. 379 00:24:15,001 --> 00:24:15,400 Yeah. 380 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,261 That's been my understanding too. 381 00:24:18,001 --> 00:24:18,320 Yeah. 382 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,940 it's not really meant to be complex 383 00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:22,101 I don't think either but 384 00:24:22,101 --> 00:24:24,741 notice nobody writes any video games in Python 385 00:24:24,741 --> 00:24:26,200 if they do they should seek help 386 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,861 not help 387 00:24:28,861 --> 00:24:30,380 to make their thing like with an AI 388 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:32,001 they should see a doctor 389 00:24:32,001 --> 00:24:39,320 so I don't know if this is AI 390 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440 but I did speaking of programming 391 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,101 I did see 392 00:24:43,101 --> 00:24:44,660 an amazing 393 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:47,380 thing that has happened 394 00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:54,800 somebody is putting minecraft into other games i saw the video like how does that fucking work 395 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:02,460 so oh okay go ahead real real real quick on that i i i haven't looked too deep into it but i've 396 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:08,540 been hearing people say it's it's to do with the decomping so even if the mod itself wasn't ai it 397 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:15,420 was born of the the ai decomping i see so i released this don't shoot the messenger that's 398 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:21,180 that's what twitter told me i have no idea so how it works though is um he's essentially 399 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:27,280 got the code of the two different games to play with each other yeah and so he's fundamentally 400 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,021 running minecraft and running skyrim or running minecraft and elden ring or running minecraft 401 00:25:33,021 --> 00:25:40,880 and mario 64 that's so wild the elden ring one he actually got to do like a switch 402 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,741 so that he was able to play like several games 403 00:25:43,741 --> 00:25:45,880 in a row like he would go from 404 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,660 oh fuck 405 00:25:47,660 --> 00:25:49,021 I think it was Minecraft 406 00:25:49,021 --> 00:25:51,420 and then it went from Minecraft to like 407 00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:52,521 Call of Duty I think 408 00:25:52,521 --> 00:25:54,580 hmm 409 00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:57,560 that's like Inferno Plus levels of insanity 410 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,001 that's kind of I love the hustle 411 00:25:59,001 --> 00:25:59,601 yeah 412 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:03,280 someone remade all of Modern Warfare 2 413 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,021 I think it was 414 00:26:04,021 --> 00:26:04,841 in 415 00:26:04,841 --> 00:26:09,160 I can't remember what code base they said it was 416 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,241 it was one of the weirder ones 417 00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:14,320 so that they turned the game into a skateboarding game 418 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,060 where it was still a shooter at the same time. 419 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:19,361 It was wacky. 420 00:26:19,861 --> 00:26:21,880 But yeah, there's been a lot of these random ones popping up. 421 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,341 That's so weird. 422 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,861 But yeah, let me say something about, I guess, decomp. 423 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,361 So, dear listener, if you don't know what that is, 424 00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:31,560 or maybe you're listening to the feature and it's like, 425 00:26:31,601 --> 00:26:32,741 what do you mean I don't know what that is? 426 00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:33,680 It's the norm. 427 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:35,001 I wouldn't be surprised. 428 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:36,601 So, decomp, right? 429 00:26:37,601 --> 00:26:38,540 Let me explain that. 430 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:42,620 It's like when you compile some software, right? 431 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,640 You create the executable from the source code and it's like not supposed to be reversible. 432 00:26:47,501 --> 00:26:52,320 But with a little bit of computer science magic, you can reverse it. 433 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,880 But it's like not one to one. 434 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,781 It's like a lot of assumption work and guessing. 435 00:26:57,341 --> 00:27:00,620 And people have been doing this manually for years. 436 00:27:01,341 --> 00:27:04,861 And there's a lot of decompilation projects that have no AI whatsoever, 437 00:27:04,861 --> 00:27:07,920 either finished or near finished 438 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,841 from just before the AI era. 439 00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:11,761 We talked about it on this very show. 440 00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:13,900 I recently played through 441 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:15,460 all three Jak and Daxter games. 442 00:27:15,841 --> 00:27:17,780 That was a recomp called Open Goal 443 00:27:17,780 --> 00:27:21,501 where the proprietary programming language, 444 00:27:21,741 --> 00:27:23,620 Goal, made by Naughty Dog, 445 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:25,080 was figured out. 446 00:27:25,620 --> 00:27:26,761 They figured out how to make it 447 00:27:26,761 --> 00:27:27,580 and how to compile it. 448 00:27:28,101 --> 00:27:30,001 And then that made the decompilation 449 00:27:30,001 --> 00:27:31,140 of the Jak and Daxter games 450 00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:32,580 even possible in the first place. 451 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,341 And honestly, the experience 452 00:27:34,341 --> 00:27:36,281 of the open goal like 453 00:27:36,281 --> 00:27:38,200 I guess harness for the game 454 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,361 right um 455 00:27:39,361 --> 00:27:42,400 way better than the fucking PS Plus 456 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,140 uh digital download 457 00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:46,120 for the same thing um 458 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,281 maybe Sony should give it 459 00:27:48,281 --> 00:27:49,420 a try uh 460 00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:52,261 but Sony needs to give something a 461 00:27:52,261 --> 00:27:53,841 fucking try I know they're 462 00:27:53,841 --> 00:27:56,200 I don't know how they're surviving but like 463 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,300 uh the Dusklight or it was just called 464 00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,761 Dusk at first but it's Dusklight now 465 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:02,420 uh for Twilight Princess also no AI 466 00:28:02,420 --> 00:28:04,180 right um 467 00:28:04,341 --> 00:28:09,060 You know a lot of retro games ago some of the tails games even had some stuff going on with that 468 00:28:09,741 --> 00:28:12,341 I believe they had it wasn't full 469 00:28:13,341 --> 00:28:18,300 Recomped but I believe there was some similar work done with some of the translation projects for the 470 00:28:18,980 --> 00:28:24,861 GP only games like they actually they're going actually funny enough just had a moment with that one where 471 00:28:26,341 --> 00:28:29,101 The group I think they were using deep L 472 00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:32,341 Which is like a machine machine translation tool 473 00:28:32,341 --> 00:28:35,300 and then heavily editing it afterwards 474 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,861 to get several of the games 475 00:28:37,861 --> 00:28:39,960 because one of the ones I played on stream back in the day 476 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,501 was 477 00:28:43,501 --> 00:28:45,300 their project as well 478 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,660 and apparently someone, they were in the final 479 00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:49,580 fucking moments of getting this thing done and someone 480 00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:51,940 swooped in, stole 481 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:53,620 their test bed 482 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:55,541 and then used AI to finish the rest of it 483 00:28:55,541 --> 00:28:57,041 Interesting 484 00:28:57,041 --> 00:29:00,001 And they were like, bro, what the fuck? 485 00:29:01,180 --> 00:29:01,480 Yeah 486 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,861 And I think that goes a lot of 487 00:29:03,861 --> 00:29:05,420 Because, you know, like 488 00:29:05,420 --> 00:29:07,761 I'm not going to defend people doing 489 00:29:07,761 --> 00:29:09,140 That shit with AI 490 00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:12,140 But that has nothing to do with the AI itself 491 00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:13,580 That has nothing to do with 492 00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:15,780 That's someone being a shithead, right? 493 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:16,400 Exactly 494 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,001 I mean, I don't know 495 00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:22,140 They're called LifeBottle Studios 496 00:29:22,140 --> 00:29:23,300 I think, LifeBottle something 497 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:26,341 And I'm not going to speak for them 498 00:29:26,341 --> 00:29:27,880 I don't know who they are specifically 499 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,861 But I mean, if they're willing to use 500 00:29:29,861 --> 00:29:35,560 machine translation stuff i bet they're probably not anti-ai the way that a lot of people are i 501 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:42,640 figure i feel like that'd be a little uh hypocritical a little bit but yeah but uh the outcome though 502 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,980 right is i swear on twitter i see it every other day there's like a new decomp that's totally done 503 00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:52,640 and launchable right well people have figured out how to make it with ai and they're just 504 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:59,800 cranking them out exactly and that's really where i'm getting at right like is we are at a precipice 505 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,001 where more things are getting done. 506 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,580 And I think that's really what we want from AI 507 00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:08,480 is things getting done. 508 00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:11,040 Like now, like you mentioned earlier, 509 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,200 with the mods, right? 510 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,080 People can be like, 511 00:30:14,281 --> 00:30:17,040 oh, man, it'd be really fucking cool if this existed. 512 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:19,820 I never ended up implementing it, 513 00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:21,080 but when we did our Zomboid server, 514 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,300 there were a couple of times where I had AI just sweep through 515 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:29,080 because sweep through and... 516 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:35,160 correct some code i didn't want to upload it because it would it was somebody else's code 517 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,841 fundamentally right like i didn't feel right but i just wanted to see if it could do it and this is 518 00:30:39,841 --> 00:30:47,781 like not even like a special ai this is like chat gpt the google the google ai chat gpt not like the 519 00:30:47,781 --> 00:30:53,160 gemini yeah well no no i mean like um if you do a google search that version of chat gpt 520 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,920 like it was still gemini but i know what you mean like it's very trivial so it was like gemini 521 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,480 and yeah Gemini just like the free Gemini 522 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400 no tokens required kind of shit be like 523 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,501 hey can you look through this and find all the errors 524 00:31:04,501 --> 00:31:06,660 and kind of help me clean it up 525 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:07,800 and it's like yeah done 526 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,501 and magical 527 00:31:10,501 --> 00:31:12,560 yeah and it took it 30 528 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,540 seconds maybe for it 529 00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:15,841 to go through you know 530 00:31:15,841 --> 00:31:18,341 200,000 lines of code 531 00:31:18,341 --> 00:31:19,540 yeah 532 00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:22,400 it's actually kind of wild to think about it too 533 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,521 because like I won't even use Google anywhere 534 00:31:24,521 --> 00:31:26,140 I just 535 00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:29,820 I literally just open up chat GPT and get it to Google something for me. 536 00:31:30,761 --> 00:31:31,120 Yeah. 537 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:32,220 I did the same thing with Brock. 538 00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:33,261 I don't pay for Brock, 539 00:31:33,501 --> 00:31:34,501 but I love their app. 540 00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:35,241 Like so good. 541 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,580 Yeah. 542 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:36,841 And I, 543 00:31:36,841 --> 00:31:36,960 I, 544 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,021 I, 545 00:31:37,101 --> 00:31:37,741 you know what? 546 00:31:37,781 --> 00:31:38,021 I, 547 00:31:38,021 --> 00:31:40,241 I want to talk a little further than I think. 548 00:31:40,241 --> 00:31:40,580 Cause like, 549 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,841 I feel like someone's going to be like, 550 00:31:41,861 --> 00:31:41,940 well, 551 00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:42,101 why, 552 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:42,720 why do that? 553 00:31:42,761 --> 00:31:43,720 That seems a little bit roundabout. 554 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,021 It's like, 555 00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:46,980 cause I don't have to deal with the Google algorithm. 556 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,521 I don't have to like parse through things or pray that the top listing, 557 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,400 top few listings are what I'm looking for. 558 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Cause GPT will just list them off and tell me what, 559 00:31:56,140 --> 00:32:01,341 are or how sometimes if i'm if i'm using the new thinking feature that the free they gave to free 560 00:32:01,341 --> 00:32:07,021 um it'll fucking explain the entire web page to me i don't even gotta click through 561 00:32:07,021 --> 00:32:13,800 half the damn time it's so much more convenient than googling something absolutely that's why i 562 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,440 use grok because it's like not only does it like search the internet really well it also searches 563 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:24,001 twitter i mean of course right but like it cites its sources really well so like if i was curious 564 00:32:24,001 --> 00:32:29,180 like how did you arrive at that answer i could just go look yeah and honestly when i'm doing any 565 00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:35,960 any kind of research especially like uh like lately we uh me and sim were thinking about trying 566 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,140 out ion 2 just for shits and giggles although now we're kind of half thinking he might half 567 00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:47,140 ass a little more because more dogs is season two is coming out in the middle of this month 568 00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:52,140 so who knows how that's gonna go but anyway um and i've been just using it to go and parse 569 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:56,741 information for me because it's like i could go search but i also can't speak korean and guess 570 00:32:56,741 --> 00:33:03,041 guess what chad gbt can translate korean in real time and so i don't even want to play the guessing 571 00:33:03,041 --> 00:33:07,480 game man i there's no reason for me to google any of that shit because even if i found it i wouldn't 572 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:16,880 be able to read it it's it's just uh it's so beautiful is what it is yeah no ai has demonstrably 573 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:24,080 made things better anybody who thinks that it hasn't is i think just wrong like i'm sure in 574 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,440 you know i'm not going to pretend it's made everybody's life better like full stop i understand 575 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:35,140 that if you're an artist and you were a graphic designer there was no way to predict ai like if 576 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:41,640 you were somebody who finished school even as late as like 2022 there was no way to predict ai would 577 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,761 go this way get this good yeah no one ever saw this coming i remember we were like prompting like 578 00:33:46,761 --> 00:33:53,140 dolly fucking nine by or three by three image grids of like really cursed ai stuff just like 579 00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:59,940 look at this funny it's a cacodemon on a trail cam ha ha ha right like so funny or the old like uh 580 00:33:59,940 --> 00:34:05,860 i think actually it was gpt um the old chat bot where it's like hey write me a story and then it 581 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:10,380 would write you a story and if you if you asked him to do it enough times it would start feeding 582 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:15,840 you back the same shit because it was just ripping from like a couple of like sites and 583 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:25,121 fucking wild or like um the sites but even as late i think it's like 2023 or maybe even 2024 584 00:34:25,121 --> 00:34:32,780 like joke sites where it'd be like hey can you tell me puns about uh computers and sometimes it 585 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:39,001 would just like repeat your puns back to you basically like it was just that bad and now 586 00:34:39,001 --> 00:34:46,860 you can have like depending upon the model you could have conversations that are near 587 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:54,400 instinguishable uh from human conversations at least for a short time like don't get me wrong 588 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,360 it's not an indefinite thing because uh it needs to purge that conversation once in a while for 589 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:12,381 its own safety right but yeah it just i it um the positivity around ai is so infectious There so many people who are just haters They just don they don want to hear about it 590 00:35:12,421 --> 00:35:13,481 They don't want to do anything with it. 591 00:35:13,521 --> 00:35:17,001 But it's like when you're like really like kind of embedded and you're using it and it's 592 00:35:17,001 --> 00:35:17,561 fucking awesome. 593 00:35:17,561 --> 00:35:21,101 It's like, damn, the feature's kind of bright actually. 594 00:35:21,781 --> 00:35:26,681 Yeah, no, I mean, we've talked about it a little bit, but honestly, like even, even like 595 00:35:26,681 --> 00:35:30,001 the people like artists or people that feel like their jobs are being straight up replaced, 596 00:35:30,001 --> 00:35:34,641 they just if they leaned into it i honestly think their jobs would probably be safe 597 00:35:34,641 --> 00:35:41,141 um that's my plan at the moment yeah like a lot of people will talk about uh like this is one of 598 00:35:41,141 --> 00:35:47,741 the the hater like uh i guess direction and one of the ways that they like kind of fight against 599 00:35:47,741 --> 00:35:52,361 it um is they always say that like it's it's going to help corporations you know get lifted 600 00:35:52,361 --> 00:35:57,341 and they're going to be able to you know not pay people or not hire as many people or so on and so 601 00:35:57,341 --> 00:36:03,381 but it's like yeah but all those people they don't hire or don't pay uh or or whatever right 602 00:36:03,381 --> 00:36:09,941 well they could just go use ai to start their own projects and if you already have experience 603 00:36:09,941 --> 00:36:14,641 like we talked about earlier you already have a leap jumping off point and you can correct the ai 604 00:36:14,641 --> 00:36:21,121 as you go your prediction is going to be far faster than this company probably yeah and like 605 00:36:21,121 --> 00:36:25,681 there's a lot of money to be made and just like making something that everybody wants like that's 606 00:36:25,681 --> 00:36:30,701 happened to the open claw guy uh his project got you know bought up even though it's you know open 607 00:36:30,701 --> 00:36:36,861 source he sold it to open ai for a shitload of money and still works there yep and it's just 608 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:40,281 like he had a really good idea one day and it just changed everything and it's like he's not the last 609 00:36:40,281 --> 00:36:44,801 person to do that like meta did the same thing with their lead ai dude he's like some like 20 610 00:36:44,801 --> 00:36:50,461 year old and like after they paid millions and millions of dollars to hire him they released 611 00:36:50,461 --> 00:36:52,541 Muse and now everyone takes meta 612 00:36:52,541 --> 00:36:54,481 seriously because Muse is actually 613 00:36:54,481 --> 00:36:56,541 good compared to the stuff they released 614 00:36:56,541 --> 00:36:56,861 before. 615 00:36:57,881 --> 00:37:00,361 And in the gaming landscape too, I know there's some 616 00:37:00,361 --> 00:37:02,461 Japanese devs that 617 00:37:02,461 --> 00:37:04,501 I don't know if they all are now that I think 618 00:37:04,501 --> 00:37:06,141 about it, but I know at least a chunk of them are 619 00:37:06,141 --> 00:37:08,661 using AI to help them develop games 620 00:37:08,661 --> 00:37:10,781 through like different platforms 621 00:37:10,781 --> 00:37:12,641 like Unity or RPG Maker 622 00:37:12,641 --> 00:37:14,581 and then they still do all 623 00:37:14,581 --> 00:37:16,621 the art by hand, but they don't 624 00:37:16,621 --> 00:37:18,061 gotta make the game by hand 625 00:37:18,061 --> 00:37:20,201 and that skips time for them. 626 00:37:20,461 --> 00:37:26,061 it's like shit like that man yeah they're automating the right part i feel yeah and then 627 00:37:26,061 --> 00:37:30,701 and it's just like one of those ones so like now so i guess i guess the point i want to make is that 628 00:37:31,261 --> 00:37:35,261 i don't think ai is ever going to replace that shit no one no one's ever going to get to a 629 00:37:35,261 --> 00:37:39,741 we're never i don't think we'll probably get to a point at least uh not before robots literally 630 00:37:39,741 --> 00:37:47,181 eradicate us from the planet maybe um where human intervention and human art is just somehow going 631 00:37:47,181 --> 00:37:54,221 to like cease existing yeah and i wonder how the industry will react because i know there's a lot 632 00:37:54,221 --> 00:38:01,421 of like you know ai hate in the in the unions and the the californians of the industry right right 633 00:38:01,421 --> 00:38:06,781 and uh that brings me to my my next uh thing i want to share actually um the golden joysticks 634 00:38:06,781 --> 00:38:14,461 have announced their uh nominees for best indie game and uh i don't see anything that i i think 635 00:38:14,461 --> 00:38:19,741 think is out of place uh but i'm willing to bet there's probably like an ai game or two that got 636 00:38:19,741 --> 00:38:23,861 snuffed because uh they didn't want to to acknowledge it but let me let me tell you the 637 00:38:23,861 --> 00:38:28,981 uh the nominees right so we got big walk which is a friend slop game probably heard of it 638 00:38:28,981 --> 00:38:34,741 oh yeah we got densha attack which is that like skateboarding game but you're not a skateboard 639 00:38:34,741 --> 00:38:40,901 you're a train uh it's on game pass it looks really fun uh esoteric ebb uh which is actually 640 00:38:40,901 --> 00:38:41,881 a fantastic game. 641 00:38:42,921 --> 00:38:45,021 Mixtape, I can't believe they nominated it. What a piece 642 00:38:45,021 --> 00:38:46,061 of shit. I hope it doesn't win. 643 00:38:46,801 --> 00:38:47,621 Golden Joysticks. 644 00:38:49,361 --> 00:38:50,681 The Union, you know, 645 00:38:50,821 --> 00:38:52,541 they nominate the games, but 646 00:38:52,541 --> 00:38:54,921 the Golden Joysticks is supposedly 647 00:38:54,921 --> 00:38:56,941 entirely online 648 00:38:56,941 --> 00:38:58,961 voted. So hopefully Mixtape won't 649 00:38:58,961 --> 00:39:00,121 win just because of what the hell. 650 00:39:01,781 --> 00:39:03,001 But there's much more. There's 651 00:39:03,001 --> 00:39:04,901 MousePI for Hire, Order 652 00:39:04,901 --> 00:39:07,101 of the Sinky Star. I'm surprised 653 00:39:07,101 --> 00:39:08,881 to see that one there. They really didn't 654 00:39:08,881 --> 00:39:10,741 like that one. I know, right? 655 00:39:10,901 --> 00:39:13,861 We got Re-Animal, which I have not heard of. 656 00:39:14,461 --> 00:39:18,521 I have, but again, I'm less surprised. 657 00:39:18,981 --> 00:39:21,061 Some of these I'm less surprised made it, 658 00:39:21,601 --> 00:39:23,641 or more surprised made it than Mixtape 659 00:39:23,641 --> 00:39:27,961 because Mixtape was an industry plant. 660 00:39:28,261 --> 00:39:28,481 Yeah. 661 00:39:28,621 --> 00:39:28,941 You know. 662 00:39:29,941 --> 00:39:31,001 There's three more. 663 00:39:31,261 --> 00:39:34,681 Sovereign Tower, Titanium Court, and Valheim. 664 00:39:36,001 --> 00:39:37,481 Valheim making it a fair. 665 00:39:37,481 --> 00:39:39,301 I bluntly 666 00:39:39,301 --> 00:39:41,661 of the ones available Valheim 667 00:39:41,661 --> 00:39:42,601 should win 668 00:39:42,601 --> 00:39:45,701 yeah from my understanding the final 669 00:39:45,701 --> 00:39:47,001 patch added like 670 00:39:47,001 --> 00:39:49,801 I mean to be fair I'll 671 00:39:49,801 --> 00:39:50,861 still criticize Valheim 672 00:39:50,861 --> 00:39:53,681 I think there's plenty of criticism 673 00:39:53,681 --> 00:39:55,941 they still fucked up 674 00:39:55,941 --> 00:39:57,841 in the fact that they think that they needed 675 00:39:57,841 --> 00:39:59,741 to do like a proper return to 676 00:39:59,741 --> 00:40:01,581 form over the course of 677 00:40:01,581 --> 00:40:03,121 what they had already published 678 00:40:03,121 --> 00:40:05,241 because there's so much missing from the game that 679 00:40:05,241 --> 00:40:06,981 it's very clear isn't missing because 680 00:40:06,981 --> 00:40:12,981 they woke up one day and said oh boy that just shouldn't exist like like weapon types as an 681 00:40:12,981 --> 00:40:19,221 example being only available like at the mid-game yeah it's like it's just like bro and the way the 682 00:40:19,221 --> 00:40:25,781 leveling works in the game is it's imagine sky or not skyrim um or no no skyrim yeah imagine skyrim 683 00:40:25,781 --> 00:40:32,901 but you unlock alchemy at like level 20. it's like that that would be stupid why why yeah no they 684 00:40:32,901 --> 00:40:40,501 really really dropped the ball on that one but but i i think valheim uh what they did add in 1.0 685 00:40:40,501 --> 00:40:46,021 is so significant that i think honestly i think most people that are going to play it it's probably 686 00:40:46,021 --> 00:40:50,021 going to be their top game in the year i figured out what's missing to this list i figured it out 687 00:40:50,901 --> 00:40:58,421 the indigain is missing from this nomination quasimorph oh yeah what the hell true so quasimorph 688 00:40:58,421 --> 00:41:05,901 you know what's funny is i yeah that's a good point because quasimorph i think had its one 689 00:41:05,901 --> 00:41:13,701 point oh back in um august it was this year it was before but it was far enough back and which 690 00:41:13,701 --> 00:41:21,801 funny about it is quasimorph probably it's not more popular than valheim but it's a lot more 691 00:41:21,801 --> 00:41:23,801 fucking popular than like two-thirds 692 00:41:23,801 --> 00:41:25,901 of those games. Yeah. Oh, for 693 00:41:25,901 --> 00:41:27,681 sure. It's like, I 694 00:41:27,681 --> 00:41:29,801 Esoteric Ebb is such a great 695 00:41:29,801 --> 00:41:31,901 game. I've only ever heard 696 00:41:31,901 --> 00:41:33,461 of it from like two people. 697 00:41:34,041 --> 00:41:35,361 Okay, it was 31st of July. 698 00:41:36,001 --> 00:41:38,001 I had Steam open, so I'd 699 00:41:38,001 --> 00:41:39,821 go look. For Quasimorph, 700 00:41:39,921 --> 00:41:40,481 sorry. Okay. 701 00:41:42,161 --> 00:41:43,801 So yeah, like Quasimorph did come out 702 00:41:43,801 --> 00:41:45,721 this year. Spoiler, 703 00:41:45,721 --> 00:41:46,961 it's gonna be game of the year, right? 704 00:41:47,801 --> 00:41:49,581 I mean, it's probably gonna be mine, to be 705 00:41:49,581 --> 00:41:51,661 blunt. I still need to play it. It's Steam Deck 706 00:41:51,661 --> 00:41:55,921 verified now but i don't know if the controller and the touchscreen is the right interface for that 707 00:41:55,921 --> 00:42:02,861 um it's on sale till the 8th of october yeah i have a copy already if you're listening to this 708 00:42:02,861 --> 00:42:09,281 podcast early and you're interested yeah speaking of ai uh system shock 2 is free on epic as well 709 00:42:09,281 --> 00:42:10,961 hey 710 00:42:10,961 --> 00:42:18,661 uh but yeah so i wonder how much more cringe is ahead for uh golden joysticks but uh 711 00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:22,261 it is player voted and I urge everyone 712 00:42:22,261 --> 00:42:24,241 everyone listening to 713 00:42:24,241 --> 00:42:26,341 you know get loud and tell all of your 714 00:42:26,341 --> 00:42:28,241 friends to not vote for 715 00:42:28,241 --> 00:42:30,501 mixtape vote for literally anything else 716 00:42:30,501 --> 00:42:32,081 yep 717 00:42:32,081 --> 00:42:34,261 it's like I feel like densha attack 718 00:42:34,261 --> 00:42:36,421 is the game on here that speaks the most to me 719 00:42:36,421 --> 00:42:38,261 but I have not played it I only played 720 00:42:38,261 --> 00:42:40,161 esoteric ebb and valheim so 721 00:42:40,161 --> 00:42:42,321 I might vote 722 00:42:42,321 --> 00:42:44,341 for ebb just cause it's a really good game 723 00:42:44,341 --> 00:42:46,181 but yeah I 724 00:42:46,181 --> 00:42:48,081 get it it's whatever 725 00:42:48,081 --> 00:42:57,521 so um i want to bring it back to something i alluded to earlier so my ps5 right yeah it's 726 00:42:57,521 --> 00:43:01,741 collecting dust and i told you about my plan to like trade it in for trade in value to go get a 727 00:43:01,741 --> 00:43:09,121 switch to pay the difference so last weekend i decided to make that happen um i got all the way 728 00:43:09,121 --> 00:43:16,481 to gamestop with a big old bag that had my ps5 and all my ps5 games forgot the fucking controllers 729 00:43:16,481 --> 00:43:20,921 and went back home in shame 730 00:43:20,921 --> 00:43:23,141 and it sits there in the bag 731 00:43:23,141 --> 00:43:25,201 god damn it 732 00:43:25,201 --> 00:43:26,481 maybe this weekend will be the one 733 00:43:26,481 --> 00:43:28,301 and I won't fucking forget 734 00:43:28,301 --> 00:43:31,601 but god damn it 735 00:43:31,601 --> 00:43:33,401 mark my words 736 00:43:33,401 --> 00:43:34,121 it will be mine 737 00:43:34,121 --> 00:43:37,501 but that's not like the end of the handheld problem 738 00:43:37,501 --> 00:43:38,261 though because like 739 00:43:38,261 --> 00:43:41,241 the Switch 2 much like the Switch 1 740 00:43:41,241 --> 00:43:43,401 and the Steam Deck it's very comfortable 741 00:43:43,401 --> 00:43:45,141 on chairs 742 00:43:45,141 --> 00:43:51,781 couches right like it's something that i would probably play at home or pack for a trip and play 743 00:43:51,781 --> 00:44:00,261 at a hotel right it's not exactly everyday carry right and people who do maybe there are people 744 00:44:00,261 --> 00:44:03,741 out there that do everyday carry a switch too i think those people are crazy that's way too much 745 00:44:03,741 --> 00:44:09,261 space in your bag right are you real unless you're like really hardcore like i'm going to the park to 746 00:44:09,261 --> 00:44:14,901 sit on a bench and play my switch like if that's really your goal sure i used to have a pair of 747 00:44:14,901 --> 00:44:22,521 shorts that i could put a pull-ass switch in the front of it's like i okay um switch two isn't that 748 00:44:22,521 --> 00:44:26,981 much bigger than a switch one so i mean that's not too unreasonable but it's like it's a big 749 00:44:26,981 --> 00:44:30,981 old thing that could you know get hit with a rock or something or break if you sit wrong 750 00:44:30,981 --> 00:44:37,281 or what have you it's not pocketable it's funny to think about that because i mean i mean i've 751 00:44:37,281 --> 00:44:42,521 talked about i don't have much in the handheld space and when i did use the switch it was always 752 00:44:42,521 --> 00:44:49,601 through the dock but um i used to lug my fucking whole ass desktop to and fro every weekend because 753 00:44:49,601 --> 00:44:54,981 we used to land parties in high school and a little bit after high school and and i never broke 754 00:44:54,981 --> 00:45:01,501 it and that thing is fucking huge so it's probably not that bad well you're not exactly putting it in 755 00:45:01,501 --> 00:45:08,161 your pocket vic and sitting on a bench no no you're right but but i used to i used to walk with i i 756 00:45:08,161 --> 00:45:14,521 made the trek on foot and it was probably no less than like a two to five like depending on how fast 757 00:45:14,521 --> 00:45:21,021 of our two to five minute walk but with a fucking heavy ass computer in a box that's quite a fucking 758 00:45:21,021 --> 00:45:26,781 long distance to walk with that but fucking imagine right like you're at the park maybe you're passing 759 00:45:26,781 --> 00:45:31,441 through maybe that was the destination you head to the bathroom you sit down to take a shit which 760 00:45:31,441 --> 00:45:35,641 public bathroom that was your first mistake but yeah you take you sit down to take a shit 761 00:45:35,641 --> 00:45:39,081 and your full-ass pc tower falls out of your pocket clatters onto the ground 762 00:45:39,081 --> 00:45:44,541 fucking shatters rgb lights going everywhere fucking ruined right like yeah you weren't 763 00:45:44,541 --> 00:45:54,461 yeah like that would be a fucking disaster right so hey man it could happen to the best of us 764 00:45:54,461 --> 00:45:59,921 you never fucking know man but like uh a pocketable device uh solves this like 765 00:45:59,921 --> 00:46:04,081 imagine it with your switch right so if you actually manage to have big enough pockets to 766 00:46:04,081 --> 00:46:09,241 fit a whole ass switch joy cons attached right and you sit down that's just gonna fall out of 767 00:46:09,241 --> 00:46:13,961 your pocket it's gonna clatter onto the ground at worst you might fucking snap it in half right 768 00:46:13,961 --> 00:46:20,441 um just sit on it wrong you know one side pulls on the other you're gonna snap it like a like a 769 00:46:20,441 --> 00:46:26,981 twig um that's where pocketable handhelds come from that's why i was like really hyped to hack 770 00:46:26,981 --> 00:46:32,961 of my vita but then it's like but it's the vita and the soft case isn't right like the problem i 771 00:46:32,961 --> 00:46:36,701 have with the vita i have it right in front of me i'm gonna pull it out um the problem i have with 772 00:46:36,701 --> 00:46:42,381 it isn't the form factor the form factor is quite lovely actually it's damn near perfect the problem 773 00:46:42,381 --> 00:46:49,401 is the joysticks like the joysticks kind of jut out the top whereas the the original psp had the nub 774 00:46:49,704 --> 00:46:55,784 right yeah like the vita should have just had two nubs uh having a full actuating analog joystick 775 00:46:55,784 --> 00:47:00,704 like i'm gonna put this thing in my pocket and i'm gonna get stick drift because the stick has 776 00:47:00,704 --> 00:47:06,564 been stick drift and it be no fault of anyone but the company who fucking made it or even worse i'll 777 00:47:06,564 --> 00:47:10,604 get worse than stick drift it'll just never return to the neutral position because i broke a fucking 778 00:47:10,604 --> 00:47:15,944 spring or something right because it's been actuated in one direction in my pocket for five 779 00:47:15,944 --> 00:47:19,984 hours and then it's like oh fuck my joystick's broken and it's required for every fucking vita 780 00:47:19,984 --> 00:47:25,304 game right it's like it's too fragile like yeah sure someone might be like i daily drive the vita 781 00:47:25,304 --> 00:47:30,564 and it's the sticks are very durable dylan stop bitching and it's like good for you from the era 782 00:47:30,564 --> 00:47:34,664 where sticks were still pretty durable but that's still not something that's probably not good for 783 00:47:34,664 --> 00:47:41,124 it that's definitely lowering its lifespan regardless yeah and so uh that brings me to 784 00:47:41,124 --> 00:47:46,924 the clamshell design right so i had a very when i was young i had a very petty and meaningless 785 00:47:46,924 --> 00:47:51,464 sibling rivalry with my sister not anything personal it's just she had a nintendo ds so 786 00:47:51,464 --> 00:47:56,604 it's like i need the psp i need the sony products she has a nintendo i want to be different god 787 00:47:56,604 --> 00:48:04,304 damn it it was that's all it was it was so dumb right and i i i got um she definitely had the last 788 00:48:04,304 --> 00:48:10,604 laugh because look at look at nintendo and sony now right but um i never had a nintendo ds 789 00:48:10,604 --> 00:48:13,224 but I know a thing or two about it 790 00:48:13,224 --> 00:48:14,584 and I know what it's capable of 791 00:48:14,584 --> 00:48:16,624 and I have an idea of what I missed out on 792 00:48:16,624 --> 00:48:18,984 now that's not to say the PSP wasn't 793 00:48:18,984 --> 00:48:20,124 the best time of my life 794 00:48:20,124 --> 00:48:23,024 I have probably 500 to 1000 hours 795 00:48:23,024 --> 00:48:25,144 on many bangers on the PSP 796 00:48:25,144 --> 00:48:27,224 such as Phantasy Star, Portable, Monster Hunter 797 00:48:27,224 --> 00:48:28,764 Freedom Unite, Dissidia 798 00:48:28,764 --> 00:48:29,724 both of them 799 00:48:29,724 --> 00:48:33,184 Untold Legends, fucking Diablo Clone 800 00:48:33,184 --> 00:48:35,044 probably got 500 hours in that thing 801 00:48:35,044 --> 00:48:36,964 just cause it was a game I had at the beginning 802 00:48:36,964 --> 00:48:39,584 you know, Portable Ops, Portable Ops Plus 803 00:48:39,584 --> 00:48:40,304 Peace Walker 804 00:48:40,304 --> 00:48:47,064 fucking metal gear acid 2 like banger after banger on the psp no regrets okay like i don't regret 805 00:48:47,064 --> 00:48:57,724 nothing but like i would much rather have an android dual screen retro like nonsense than uh 806 00:48:57,724 --> 00:49:03,144 a vita shaped one because i already have a vita i would just take that right um but they do make 807 00:49:03,144 --> 00:49:08,084 vita shaped ones so there's there's a couple players in the space uh ayn or ein i'm not sure 808 00:49:08,084 --> 00:49:10,584 how to pronounce it, is probably 809 00:49:10,584 --> 00:49:12,744 the big dog, right? 810 00:49:12,904 --> 00:49:13,944 And then behind them is 811 00:49:13,944 --> 00:49:16,664 Retroid and Amberneck. Those are kind of 812 00:49:16,664 --> 00:49:17,864 the big three, right? 813 00:49:18,484 --> 00:49:20,384 So, Ayn 814 00:49:20,384 --> 00:49:22,684 makes this device called 815 00:49:22,684 --> 00:49:24,824 the Ayn Thor. Maybe you've heard of it, right? 816 00:49:25,304 --> 00:49:26,664 The Ayn Thor, it's got 817 00:49:26,664 --> 00:49:28,704 that Nintendo DS clamshell, but it's a little bit 818 00:49:28,704 --> 00:49:30,764 bigger. Still a 819 00:49:30,764 --> 00:49:32,104 clamshell. Still closes. 820 00:49:32,484 --> 00:49:34,684 Very pocketable. But it's 821 00:49:34,684 --> 00:49:36,584 damn near as capable as a Steam Deck. 822 00:49:37,184 --> 00:49:37,684 Not quite. 823 00:49:38,084 --> 00:49:39,164 It's pretty fucking close. 824 00:49:40,504 --> 00:49:41,264 And it's running Android. 825 00:49:41,744 --> 00:49:42,524 It's got two screens. 826 00:49:43,144 --> 00:49:47,724 So it's got the power to like meaningfully double task when you have the extra screen. 827 00:49:47,724 --> 00:49:55,364 So you can have like a guide open, a wiki, or a fucking YouTube video while you're playing fucking Skyrim on the top screen. 828 00:49:55,624 --> 00:49:55,704 Sure. 829 00:49:56,924 --> 00:50:01,064 But like we mentioned earlier that people have been making decomps, right? 830 00:50:01,124 --> 00:50:03,684 And then making projects out of those decomp results. 831 00:50:03,684 --> 00:50:05,724 a lot of those results 832 00:50:05,724 --> 00:50:08,064 were designed for the Ayn Thor 833 00:50:08,064 --> 00:50:10,364 like it's Ayn Thor first 834 00:50:10,364 --> 00:50:12,604 because Ayn Thor was the first 835 00:50:12,604 --> 00:50:14,704 device that really figured out 836 00:50:14,704 --> 00:50:16,084 the retro clamshell 837 00:50:16,084 --> 00:50:18,304 like it's not a DS it's 838 00:50:18,304 --> 00:50:19,984 something more and 839 00:50:19,984 --> 00:50:21,644 I've seen like 840 00:50:21,644 --> 00:50:24,844 I think there's literally one for Skyrim 841 00:50:24,844 --> 00:50:26,584 where the bottom screen is like an interactive 842 00:50:26,584 --> 00:50:27,724 wiki and inventory 843 00:50:27,724 --> 00:50:30,664 which if you can imagine like the 844 00:50:30,664 --> 00:50:32,664 utility of a touch screen like oh yeah that makes sense a lot 845 00:50:32,664 --> 00:50:33,124 actually 846 00:50:33,124 --> 00:50:40,884 yeah um and then imagine also um all those different d comps have um 847 00:50:40,884 --> 00:50:46,624 uh some other stuff going on like uh i saw one that was like a pokemon game 848 00:50:46,624 --> 00:50:53,764 but it was like in 3d but it was like the first gen and it had the first gen like art style but 849 00:50:53,764 --> 00:50:58,384 like you can move the camera around it was fucking weird um i know a lot of youtubers 850 00:50:58,384 --> 00:51:01,544 like showed it off and they showed off like the first area i don't think any of them have actually 851 00:51:01,544 --> 00:51:06,644 completed the damn thing it probably is unfinishable but um you know whatever floats 852 00:51:06,644 --> 00:51:14,064 the boat uh but like there's a lot of projects like that made for the thor and i would love to 853 00:51:14,064 --> 00:51:19,304 have one but they're not for sale like you could sign up for the next wave they call it no idea when 854 00:51:19,304 --> 00:51:24,224 it drops and it's kind of a premium like i know with the steam deck having raised their price 855 00:51:24,224 --> 00:51:28,264 as much as it has it's like the obvious choice over a steam deck right now 856 00:51:28,264 --> 00:51:36,884 but the highest tier model with the most memory and uh i'm talking ram right um not hard drive 857 00:51:36,884 --> 00:51:42,264 space there's an sd card slot for that um it's already like 500 american that's kind of that's 858 00:51:42,264 --> 00:51:52,384 kind of steep for like a retro thingy right um but very recently retroid came out swinging with 859 00:51:52,384 --> 00:51:59,284 their own device so retroid had these two devices come out that everyone was hotly anticipating they 860 00:51:59,284 --> 00:52:02,564 just came out like last week that's why i heard about them there was a bunch of videos on the 861 00:52:02,564 --> 00:52:09,604 subject right it's like the retro pocket duo and the retro pocket duo light but then people actually 862 00:52:09,604 --> 00:52:13,744 got their hands on them and they're like hey the retro pocket duo light is like it's too light 863 00:52:13,744 --> 00:52:19,644 like i can't run enough shit on it and then they're like all right now announcing and releasing 864 00:52:19,644 --> 00:52:25,284 immediately the retroid pocket duo light plus or whatever the hell they called it and it's it's the 865 00:52:25,284 --> 00:52:31,844 light with the same form factor and screens but with the same like snapdragon processor and ram 866 00:52:31,844 --> 00:52:39,504 that the the the the premium one has and the premium one isn't that expensive i'll look up 867 00:52:39,504 --> 00:52:46,864 the price in a minute uh but it's got double oleds it's a beauty to look at actually like 868 00:52:46,864 --> 00:52:48,864 here let me pull this shit up 869 00:52:48,864 --> 00:52:55,204 Retroid Pocket Duo 870 00:52:55,204 --> 00:52:57,404 so like the premier model 871 00:52:57,404 --> 00:52:58,804 with the dual OLEDs 872 00:52:58,804 --> 00:53:00,304 269 American 873 00:53:00,304 --> 00:53:02,864 in stock I can buy it right fucking now 874 00:53:02,864 --> 00:53:04,044 right 875 00:53:04,044 --> 00:53:06,744 very different from 876 00:53:06,744 --> 00:53:08,624 the other 877 00:53:08,624 --> 00:53:10,724 Ayan Thor which goes up to 500 878 00:53:10,724 --> 00:53:12,584 and there's like 5 different models and it's really weird 879 00:53:12,584 --> 00:53:14,864 now to be fair the Retroid Pocket Duo 880 00:53:14,864 --> 00:53:21,244 the premium one not as good as the iron thor not even close unfortunately regretfully but like i 881 00:53:21,244 --> 00:53:28,484 have a steam deck i have a capable pc i don't want to play triple a whatever on a handheld this 882 00:53:28,484 --> 00:53:33,264 clamshell form factor in here let me let me put the the the link in the the discord so you can 883 00:53:33,264 --> 00:53:40,984 see what i'm pointing at with my fingers uh this thing right like you could snap it shut put in 884 00:53:40,984 --> 00:53:46,664 your pocket you know go to the bathroom at the park it's fine okay this literally looks like a 885 00:53:46,664 --> 00:53:52,464 modern ds almost right but imagine you pull it out and then you use an android app like game 886 00:53:52,464 --> 00:53:59,184 native log into your steam account you're playing hades 2 at like you know a solid 40 to 60 frames 887 00:53:59,184 --> 00:54:07,224 per second crisp oled screen fidelity and everything just fucking works yeah that's that's 888 00:54:07,224 --> 00:54:09,364 quite the bargain, I feel. 889 00:54:09,504 --> 00:54:09,724 It is. 890 00:54:11,084 --> 00:54:13,604 And then the competition, of course, 891 00:54:13,664 --> 00:54:15,144 is the AYN Thor. 892 00:54:16,084 --> 00:54:17,464 Let me pull that up 893 00:54:17,464 --> 00:54:18,204 so you can see it. 894 00:54:21,284 --> 00:54:23,544 Now, the AYN Thor is competitively 895 00:54:23,544 --> 00:54:24,984 priced when you look at the homepage. 896 00:54:25,264 --> 00:54:27,604 What you land on is the light 897 00:54:27,604 --> 00:54:29,644 120 gigabyte 898 00:54:29,644 --> 00:54:30,764 internal storage, 899 00:54:31,324 --> 00:54:33,484 8 gigabytes RAM model, but nobody wants 900 00:54:33,484 --> 00:54:35,624 8 gigabytes of RAM. They want 16. 901 00:54:35,624 --> 00:54:42,664 and that puts you in the 479 and above category right because you can't just replace the ram 902 00:54:42,664 --> 00:54:50,824 i feel like eight gigs of ram would be okay for like a handful of uses like if you knew exactly 903 00:54:50,824 --> 00:54:55,364 what you were going to use it for and you knew you weren't going to need 16 it's good that this 904 00:54:55,364 --> 00:55:03,464 option exists right but you're right most people are probably not gonna well isn't that yeah that's 905 00:55:03,464 --> 00:55:05,404 the real problem is like, what do I 906 00:55:05,404 --> 00:55:07,624 what am I going to do that I want 907 00:55:07,624 --> 00:55:09,044 only 8 gigs of RAM for? 908 00:55:10,844 --> 00:55:11,784 I was going to say 909 00:55:11,784 --> 00:55:13,644 like, I suppose 910 00:55:13,644 --> 00:55:15,824 if you're only playing like retro games 911 00:55:15,824 --> 00:55:17,124 or if you're only playing 912 00:55:17,124 --> 00:55:19,464 like, I guess honestly 913 00:55:19,464 --> 00:55:21,464 gotcha games, a lot of them 914 00:55:21,464 --> 00:55:22,864 could probably be run on 8 gigs 915 00:55:22,864 --> 00:55:25,224 really depends on 916 00:55:25,224 --> 00:55:27,584 what you're going to use them for, and 200 bucks 917 00:55:27,584 --> 00:55:29,584 is far cheaper than buying 918 00:55:29,584 --> 00:55:30,524 a phone 919 00:55:30,524 --> 00:55:35,064 yeah and a lot of those gotcha games already run on android yeah i was gonna say actually 920 00:55:35,064 --> 00:55:41,004 i think about what it would really work what would really work more specifically 921 00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:49,464 streaming games oh that too if you're streaming or if you're not uh or if you're somebody who 922 00:55:49,464 --> 00:55:56,424 doesn't utilize um just doesn't utilize ram for whatever reason it is actually still an 923 00:55:56,424 --> 00:55:58,324 affordable option. So I am 924 00:55:58,324 --> 00:55:59,724 mocking it erroneously. 925 00:56:00,544 --> 00:56:02,584 And realistically, $400 to $500 926 00:56:02,584 --> 00:56:04,184 is still cheaper than 927 00:56:04,184 --> 00:56:05,364 most phones. 928 00:56:06,064 --> 00:56:08,504 For what you're getting 929 00:56:08,504 --> 00:56:09,664 here, at least, I mean. 930 00:56:11,304 --> 00:56:12,524 So, honestly, 931 00:56:13,024 --> 00:56:14,364 these are quite nice. 932 00:56:14,464 --> 00:56:15,524 These are actually really neat. 933 00:56:16,244 --> 00:56:16,544 Mm-hmm. 934 00:56:18,044 --> 00:56:20,464 The Ayn Thor is the beefier 935 00:56:20,464 --> 00:56:21,584 of the two, for sure. 936 00:56:23,644 --> 00:56:24,484 But notice 937 00:56:24,484 --> 00:56:25,604 it's, you know, 938 00:56:26,424 --> 00:56:33,784 you have to uh pay to get into their batch seven pre-order whenever batch seven is and it's like 939 00:56:33,784 --> 00:56:40,824 i don't i don't want to with that i don't just make it like is it that in demand or like 940 00:56:41,704 --> 00:56:46,904 i think so like if youtube's anything to go off of which i know youtube is just full of hype men 941 00:56:46,904 --> 00:56:55,384 right but like the ein thor appears to be flying off the shelf like it's also big that is that's 942 00:56:55,384 --> 00:56:56,944 That's like double the size of a DS. 943 00:56:57,524 --> 00:56:59,724 Well, of a DS Lite, yeah. 944 00:56:59,864 --> 00:57:01,064 But remember the 3DS? 945 00:57:01,284 --> 00:57:01,884 You know what? 946 00:57:02,024 --> 00:57:04,084 Or like the original DS was pretty big. 947 00:57:04,304 --> 00:57:05,844 The XL one? 948 00:57:06,604 --> 00:57:06,864 Yeah. 949 00:57:06,864 --> 00:57:08,344 The regular DS wasn't... 950 00:57:08,344 --> 00:57:10,864 You are right that the regular DS wasn't so much, 951 00:57:10,984 --> 00:57:12,044 but the XL, man. 952 00:57:12,624 --> 00:57:12,884 Yeah. 953 00:57:12,884 --> 00:57:13,084 Yeah. 954 00:57:13,084 --> 00:57:15,164 Like the 3DS XL, 955 00:57:15,304 --> 00:57:16,964 the most premium version of the DS 956 00:57:16,964 --> 00:57:17,904 that Nintendo ever made. 957 00:57:18,024 --> 00:57:19,064 This is comparable to that. 958 00:57:19,664 --> 00:57:22,684 I would say it's still better form factor than a Switch. 959 00:57:22,684 --> 00:57:31,184 um which is nice and i'm looking still fits in your pocket these are still images um and i 960 00:57:31,184 --> 00:57:40,204 suppose our viewers you can look this up as well that i'm sure um but the uh the image quality 961 00:57:40,204 --> 00:57:47,564 looks really fucking nice it really is uh uh that nice um let's see 962 00:57:47,564 --> 00:57:58,324 120 hertz refresh rate bro it's pretty nice for the the kind of screen too it's like i i it's very 963 00:57:58,324 --> 00:58:01,644 easy to just pull up a bunch of youtube shorts that like show you like what it looks like in 964 00:58:01,644 --> 00:58:05,524 people's hands but it's like i don't want to interrupt the recording i'll send it to you later 965 00:58:05,524 --> 00:58:11,664 just trust that uh no factor is good it looks yeah i mean this i guess i'm nitpicking it a 966 00:58:11,664 --> 00:58:18,304 bit with that but it is really good it looks really good if game stop sold these i'd probably 967 00:58:18,304 --> 00:58:24,304 trade my ps5 for that instead of the switch 2 and get the switch 2 later but like it's not an option 968 00:58:24,304 --> 00:58:38,241 for me right now honestly i have ruined my life for both it okay i think part of my issue when it comes to buying things like this for me is that I the kind of person that like 969 00:58:38,341 --> 00:58:40,921 when I need a handheld, I need a handheld. 970 00:58:41,501 --> 00:58:45,681 But that need comes maybe once a year, if that. 971 00:58:45,841 --> 00:58:48,701 And that's always my issue with it. 972 00:58:49,861 --> 00:58:51,981 Because, I mean, you were talking about PSPs and Vitas earlier. 973 00:58:51,981 --> 00:58:54,201 And it's like, I used to love my PSP. 974 00:58:54,201 --> 00:59:01,321 but i also owned a psp when i was going to high school and i was never i was basically never home 975 00:59:01,321 --> 00:59:08,241 so it's like that was when i was like oh my god i fucking love this thing um but even like 976 00:59:08,241 --> 00:59:13,581 i honestly around the time that i i got my first job would have been 977 00:59:13,581 --> 00:59:20,021 the moment of it where i was like i'm when i'm out i'm doing something i don't got time yeah 978 00:59:20,021 --> 00:59:23,941 Well, I'm also a big public transit enjoyer, right? 979 00:59:24,061 --> 00:59:24,261 Yeah. 980 00:59:24,601 --> 00:59:26,321 Like buses and trains and stuff and boats. 981 00:59:26,641 --> 00:59:28,761 So it's like, I have time. 982 00:59:29,421 --> 00:59:32,741 I think that's also part of the issue of where I live too. 983 00:59:32,901 --> 00:59:34,881 It's like, don't got that luxury. 984 00:59:35,001 --> 00:59:38,561 Actually, there was a point in time when they thought the buses might shut down in my area. 985 00:59:39,261 --> 00:59:39,621 Damn. 986 00:59:40,981 --> 00:59:43,801 And for the record, dear viewer, I live in the city. 987 00:59:44,001 --> 00:59:45,161 I don't live in the middle of nowhere. 988 00:59:46,161 --> 00:59:49,201 My city is maybe kind of shit. 989 00:59:50,021 --> 00:59:52,301 And people would like to say that now it's gone to shit, 990 00:59:52,341 --> 00:59:54,001 but no, it's always been kind of shit. 991 00:59:54,301 --> 00:59:57,341 It's like, do we want to pay for more buses in the city 992 00:59:57,341 --> 00:59:59,921 or should we do Canadian healthcare boots? 993 01:00:01,281 --> 01:00:05,281 Or we can open up a new park for the homeless. 994 01:00:05,901 --> 01:00:06,241 Yeah. 995 01:00:07,581 --> 01:00:09,181 Hey, that park was for the children. 996 01:00:09,601 --> 01:00:10,901 It said so on the tax breaks. 997 01:00:11,621 --> 01:00:11,881 Yeah. 998 01:00:14,021 --> 01:00:14,561 What's that? 999 01:00:15,901 --> 01:00:18,061 Sorry, we don't need to just make fun of Canada, 1000 01:00:18,341 --> 01:00:19,201 but it's super easy. 1001 01:00:19,201 --> 01:00:24,621 no it's so easy trust me trust me we we they probably need to make fun of it more so it gets 1002 01:00:24,621 --> 01:00:29,801 embarrassed i saw a headline it was probably bullshit but i want to believe it because it 1003 01:00:29,801 --> 01:00:36,661 was so funny that uh in 2026 the amount of assisted suicides uh in the canadian healthcare 1004 01:00:36,661 --> 01:00:42,781 system has exceeded gun deaths in america no no i believe it's not uh not total it's probably 1005 01:00:42,781 --> 01:00:51,641 bullshit but i think the the study itself the math was correct i just don't remember exactly 1006 01:00:51,641 --> 01:00:55,961 how they got to that point so i don't want to speak to it like in that like pointedly but it 1007 01:00:55,961 --> 01:01:04,101 was true yes um there's some there's some truth to it not even if it isn't literally true yeah 1008 01:01:04,101 --> 01:01:08,781 well it's it's one of those moments where like uh i guess not to go like too deep into it uh 1009 01:01:08,781 --> 01:01:14,541 But there are a lot of deaths that come as a result of old age. 1010 01:01:15,441 --> 01:01:17,241 And that makes up a lot of it. 1011 01:01:17,561 --> 01:01:20,981 Now, that isn't to say that people have probably all heard the story of the homeless woman. 1012 01:01:21,221 --> 01:01:22,141 That they fucking... 1013 01:01:22,141 --> 01:01:23,721 Or I don't think she was necessarily homeless. 1014 01:01:24,001 --> 01:01:24,521 Just the old lady that they... 1015 01:01:24,521 --> 01:01:25,641 She was just really poor. 1016 01:01:26,041 --> 01:01:26,261 Yeah. 1017 01:01:26,501 --> 01:01:27,821 The poor lady that they... 1018 01:01:27,821 --> 01:01:28,761 Yeah. 1019 01:01:28,941 --> 01:01:33,501 And the way the story goes, and I believe it's true. 1020 01:01:33,501 --> 01:01:40,741 the uh the whole shtick was that she had a health condition that would eventually kill her 1021 01:01:40,741 --> 01:01:47,021 but it would have been a while like she could have lived for years but they deemed her unfit 1022 01:01:47,021 --> 01:01:54,261 to recover because she was too poor to basically keep herself uh healthy is what they figured and 1023 01:01:54,261 --> 01:01:58,921 so they they recommended her for this and there's been cancer patients they've done this with that 1024 01:01:58,921 --> 01:02:04,901 have fled to america and and got treatment in america and are alive to this day uh so the main 1025 01:02:04,901 --> 01:02:10,241 program is definitely and i don't want to sound like i'm ever defending it is definitely flawed 1026 01:02:10,241 --> 01:02:14,301 but i would say the vast majority of deaths are usually people that are like 1027 01:02:14,301 --> 01:02:18,241 on death's door anyways or they're like super old and a lot of pain 1028 01:02:18,241 --> 01:02:24,761 yeah but no i don't you know it's funny i'm fun of it but i'm not actually against um 1029 01:02:24,761 --> 01:02:30,901 assisted suicide no me neither i think it's one of those things that like if it if you're at a 1030 01:02:30,901 --> 01:02:37,201 point where you're in a lot of pain you're you're gonna die and you're given that option and the 1031 01:02:37,201 --> 01:02:40,381 doctor's okay with it i honestly think the doctor should be okay with it too because 1032 01:02:40,381 --> 01:02:44,781 honestly i think if i were a doctor and you're like yo kill me doctor i'm like fuck you 1033 01:02:44,781 --> 01:02:52,161 i don't want that on my conscience but um but yeah i mean in those contexts i think it's fine 1034 01:02:52,161 --> 01:02:55,301 I think the issue is more about how liberal they are with it, honestly. 1035 01:02:56,761 --> 01:02:58,161 There's a lot of people that... 1036 01:02:59,001 --> 01:03:02,761 They've heard of a percentage. 1037 01:03:02,941 --> 01:03:05,501 It might be a small percentage, but it's still way too many people 1038 01:03:05,501 --> 01:03:09,321 that get hit with it that just genuinely don't need... 1039 01:03:09,321 --> 01:03:11,241 It's just people point it out and make fun of it 1040 01:03:11,241 --> 01:03:13,201 because it's weirdly common. 1041 01:03:13,961 --> 01:03:16,221 It is very common, though, yeah. 1042 01:03:20,141 --> 01:03:22,101 Why does Canada keep killing its citizens? 1043 01:03:22,161 --> 01:03:31,841 um there i mean there's conspiracy theories um and i mean they line up they they line up so i 1044 01:03:31,841 --> 01:03:35,361 kind of understand where people are coming from but i don't think there's much evidence to base it 1045 01:03:35,361 --> 01:03:41,441 on um where they believe that because of the way our health care costs government a lot of money 1046 01:03:41,441 --> 01:03:49,201 and how we are constantly bleeding ass loads of money um i i like to make the joke that canada is 1047 01:03:49,201 --> 01:03:50,441 a money farm for the politicians 1048 01:03:50,441 --> 01:03:53,281 because they all get caught money laundering 1049 01:03:53,281 --> 01:03:55,181 or maybe not laundering 1050 01:03:55,181 --> 01:03:55,961 but 1051 01:03:55,961 --> 01:03:59,121 embezzling or some other bullshit 1052 01:03:59,121 --> 01:04:00,601 corruption shit, right? 1053 01:04:01,061 --> 01:04:02,261 Don't worry, we have that one too. 1054 01:04:02,661 --> 01:04:04,701 And then nothing ever happens to them, right? 1055 01:04:05,601 --> 01:04:07,001 But they figure 1056 01:04:07,001 --> 01:04:08,901 as a result of that they're doing MAID because 1057 01:04:08,901 --> 01:04:10,961 it doesn't really cost a lot of money if you 1058 01:04:10,961 --> 01:04:13,161 you know, no hospice, no otherwise. 1059 01:04:14,781 --> 01:04:16,621 So that's the conspiracy 1060 01:04:16,621 --> 01:04:18,741 is that they are ramping it up 1061 01:04:18,741 --> 01:04:20,621 because patients are money 1062 01:04:20,621 --> 01:04:22,281 and if they're dead, they're not. 1063 01:04:23,601 --> 01:04:24,661 I mean, that is true 1064 01:04:24,661 --> 01:04:26,021 by technicals, you know. 1065 01:04:27,881 --> 01:04:28,701 Technically true 1066 01:04:28,701 --> 01:04:29,201 and correct. 1067 01:04:32,301 --> 01:04:33,801 Well, anyways, enough about Canada. 1068 01:04:36,101 --> 01:04:36,901 But speaking 1069 01:04:36,901 --> 01:04:38,781 of corruption, let's talk 1070 01:04:38,781 --> 01:04:39,081 about Discord. 1071 01:04:39,561 --> 01:04:41,981 Have you guys seen 1072 01:04:41,981 --> 01:04:44,761 what happened with Discord 1073 01:04:44,761 --> 01:04:46,321 lately? Since our last recording? 1074 01:04:46,741 --> 01:04:47,161 It was really funny. 1075 01:04:47,161 --> 01:04:53,601 I, you know what? I'm going to stipulate this before we even talk about it. I am surprised. 1076 01:04:54,581 --> 01:05:01,141 I am very surprised at how many people were in on, or not in on, sorry, that were like 1077 01:05:01,141 --> 01:05:08,541 okay with it, the way that it went, and how they, how the response happened, I guess. 1078 01:05:09,541 --> 01:05:15,941 It reminded me of like old school internet. Like really old school internet. And I was 1079 01:05:15,941 --> 01:05:20,701 like it's like damn this is the kind of shit we used to troll chat rooms with and and people on 1080 01:05:20,701 --> 01:05:25,681 twitter are just embracing it it's like all right man okay yeah like i sure is fucking defending 1081 01:05:25,681 --> 01:05:34,881 discord here right so so dear listener um let me tell you the tale right so discord is rolling out 1082 01:05:34,881 --> 01:05:42,361 their government id update again yeah and they're doing it slightly different this time um and 1083 01:05:42,361 --> 01:05:47,461 And there's a couple options where you don't actually have to fork over your ID, but none of them are good, and it's all bullshit. 1084 01:05:47,961 --> 01:05:49,361 And they shouldn't be doing this. 1085 01:05:49,441 --> 01:05:50,781 Also, they are not required to do this. 1086 01:05:51,341 --> 01:05:52,301 They're getting ahead of it. 1087 01:05:53,141 --> 01:05:54,601 They think it'll be required soon. 1088 01:05:55,581 --> 01:05:56,821 Or they're just lying to us. 1089 01:05:58,361 --> 01:06:00,381 They want your information, man. 1090 01:06:00,701 --> 01:06:01,741 Yeah, it's so dumb. 1091 01:06:01,861 --> 01:06:02,361 It's like, why? 1092 01:06:02,521 --> 01:06:03,761 You're not being compelled to do it. 1093 01:06:03,841 --> 01:06:05,521 You're doing it for the love of the game, I guess. 1094 01:06:05,521 --> 01:06:12,121 but uh so they rolled this update out and there was like some problems with it where people were 1095 01:06:12,121 --> 01:06:17,981 being flagged as kids when they weren't kids and or in their they're in a region where it's not being 1096 01:06:17,981 --> 01:06:22,481 applied because they're trying to do it to like a subset of the users or whatever i don't know 1097 01:06:22,481 --> 01:06:26,961 a bunch of problems i don't think i'm on discord enough to notice what the actual problems were 1098 01:06:26,961 --> 01:06:33,761 but um they posted a meme it was like their little wumpus mascot guy doing like a he's crying and he's 1099 01:06:33,761 --> 01:06:38,761 doing like a thumbs up it's like a it's a meme template that someone else created right um yeah 1100 01:06:38,761 --> 01:06:42,601 and they i'll put the link in the show notes because it was like a really specific tweet but 1101 01:06:42,601 --> 01:06:47,881 they were they said something to the effect of uh you know when you're you're super popular 1102 01:06:47,881 --> 01:06:52,701 you know update that everyone was looking forward to uh it doesn't go well uh they're obviously 1103 01:06:52,701 --> 01:06:57,721 being sarcastic right but there's nothing cute about you know implementing this awful feature 1104 01:06:57,721 --> 01:07:04,481 right it's like you know it sucks you know we don't want it they did it anyway and they're 1105 01:07:04,481 --> 01:07:10,321 trying to make it sound like they didn't have a choice and the the reactions that victim is 1106 01:07:10,321 --> 01:07:17,861 referring to is people have been taking the wumpus mascot and quotes retweeting uh that post with uh 1107 01:07:17,861 --> 01:07:24,241 their own rendition of the artwork uh usually the mascot being tortured in wondrous ways um 1108 01:07:24,241 --> 01:07:27,461 I think the way I can best sum it up 1109 01:07:27,461 --> 01:07:28,221 for those who 1110 01:07:28,221 --> 01:07:29,501 know 1111 01:07:29,501 --> 01:07:35,001 the old skin flaying laser machine 1112 01:07:35,001 --> 01:07:37,141 had a wampus 1113 01:07:37,141 --> 01:07:38,701 in it this time 1114 01:07:38,701 --> 01:07:41,561 if you're familiar 1115 01:07:41,561 --> 01:07:43,181 I've seen like a dozen 1116 01:07:43,181 --> 01:07:43,801 different ways 1117 01:07:43,801 --> 01:07:47,021 it basically brutally murdered, tortured 1118 01:07:47,021 --> 01:07:47,641 or otherwise 1119 01:07:47,641 --> 01:07:51,221 and everyone 1120 01:07:51,221 --> 01:07:52,501 was down with it 1121 01:07:52,501 --> 01:07:55,641 universally everyone was down with it 1122 01:07:55,641 --> 01:07:57,141 and I was like, I have not seen 1123 01:07:57,141 --> 01:07:59,981 anything quite like that in a while. 1124 01:08:00,841 --> 01:08:01,241 Yeah. 1125 01:08:01,481 --> 01:08:03,341 Dear listener, listening in the future, 1126 01:08:03,701 --> 01:08:05,561 like our podcast is some kind of time capsule. 1127 01:08:06,021 --> 01:08:07,681 This was the day where everyone said, 1128 01:08:07,821 --> 01:08:09,461 oh yeah, fuck Discord. 1129 01:08:09,701 --> 01:08:10,701 Fuck this Wumpus mascot. 1130 01:08:11,181 --> 01:08:12,181 Fuck all this nonsense. 1131 01:08:12,541 --> 01:08:13,521 What were we going to do about it? 1132 01:08:13,641 --> 01:08:14,461 We're going to stay on Discord 1133 01:08:14,461 --> 01:08:15,761 and nothing happened. 1134 01:08:16,901 --> 01:08:17,861 As is tradition. 1135 01:08:18,341 --> 01:08:20,221 To be fair though, I will say 1136 01:08:20,221 --> 01:08:22,221 I did see a lot more rhetoric 1137 01:08:22,221 --> 01:08:24,401 on different places to go 1138 01:08:24,401 --> 01:08:25,401 from Discord. 1139 01:08:26,341 --> 01:08:28,761 I feel like every time it bubbles back up, 1140 01:08:29,361 --> 01:08:30,781 it gets talked about a little more. 1141 01:08:31,761 --> 01:08:32,681 So it's not like... 1142 01:08:32,681 --> 01:08:35,141 It wasn't all, 1143 01:08:35,841 --> 01:08:37,201 okay, let's just stay on Discord. 1144 01:08:37,601 --> 01:08:39,261 So there was at least a little pushback, 1145 01:08:39,401 --> 01:08:41,661 but I still don't think that it bubbles up enough 1146 01:08:41,661 --> 01:08:43,181 that it will make a difference. 1147 01:08:43,901 --> 01:08:45,701 I don't know if it'll ever make a difference, unfortunately. 1148 01:08:46,021 --> 01:08:47,261 It's not going to be like Skype 1149 01:08:47,261 --> 01:08:49,621 where it was the obvious place to go. 1150 01:08:49,621 --> 01:08:54,821 like i know discord is probably never going away and it's probably going to be the place you have 1151 01:08:54,821 --> 01:08:58,901 to go to get updates for some shit you care about right it's like i fucking hate that 1152 01:08:58,901 --> 01:09:06,401 every fucking modder now is like you know uh the steam comments or the steam forums are not a good 1153 01:09:06,401 --> 01:09:13,661 way for me to get feedback no you like you're no nobody is being fooled by this zero people are 1154 01:09:13,661 --> 01:09:20,841 being fooled by this you have thin skin and you don't like taking criticism that is 100% all it 1155 01:09:20,841 --> 01:09:26,061 is because if you actually wanted to have real feedback like that you'd do it on your github 1156 01:09:26,061 --> 01:09:34,061 i mean i'm talking about it at length and i i it sucks because i'm sure there's i mean i've met 1157 01:09:34,061 --> 01:09:40,421 plenty of monitors that are great people um but like the amount of monitors i've met that are just 1158 01:09:40,421 --> 01:09:42,541 pretentious, self-righteous assholes. 1159 01:09:42,681 --> 01:09:43,741 I mean, fuck, we all know one. 1160 01:09:46,781 --> 01:09:48,061 Well, I say no one. 1161 01:09:48,301 --> 01:09:49,741 It's been years, but either way. 1162 01:09:50,701 --> 01:09:52,461 But the point being, though, is that, like, 1163 01:09:53,721 --> 01:09:58,861 it's just so common for them to be, like, I guess that way. 1164 01:09:58,961 --> 01:10:00,721 I don't know how else to, like, go about that. 1165 01:10:01,381 --> 01:10:04,641 At any time, it's like, comments are locked here, 1166 01:10:04,741 --> 01:10:08,201 go to my Discord, or they otherwise, like, can't handle it, 1167 01:10:08,201 --> 01:10:25,338 Or they make you jump through a bunch of hoops to give criticism or post whatever Or oh my favorite one is when you go to their page their page like hey if you gonna report problems with my mod you better not be using any other mods it like well brother i modding why would i only use one mod what the fuck that that 1168 01:10:25,338 --> 01:10:30,678 literally not how this works i know you know to some degree i can be like hey you know maybe like 1169 01:10:30,678 --> 01:10:34,819 when they're like hey can you isolate and make sure that it's my mod that's doing it and and 1170 01:10:34,819 --> 01:10:37,519 I think to be entirely fair, yes. 1171 01:10:37,939 --> 01:10:43,578 Or even more to the case, it's like, yo, if you're going to list a problem and you've got a bunch of other mods, at least give me your mod list. 1172 01:10:44,258 --> 01:10:44,378 Right? 1173 01:10:44,599 --> 01:10:47,078 So I can be like, oh, this mod here has a conflict. 1174 01:10:47,138 --> 01:10:48,099 You might want to look into that. 1175 01:10:48,559 --> 01:10:53,319 You know, it's like, maybe I'm not going to help you fix it, but I can at least identify it, hopefully. 1176 01:10:53,559 --> 01:10:53,678 Right. 1177 01:10:53,678 --> 01:10:59,178 Well, and the beauty of it is more than ever, it's super easy to do because you know what we can do? 1178 01:10:59,338 --> 01:11:03,059 We can chunk it into chat GPT, Jim and I, whatever. 1179 01:11:03,059 --> 01:11:06,779 and be like, hey, can you maybe see why these things are conflicting? 1180 01:11:07,878 --> 01:11:08,199 Yeah. 1181 01:11:08,539 --> 01:11:10,498 And actually, what is it, Nexus? 1182 01:11:10,939 --> 01:11:15,599 They've started a lot of their individual game plugins 1183 01:11:15,599 --> 01:11:18,298 for Nexus Vortex, their launcher. 1184 01:11:18,678 --> 01:11:21,618 They'll actually tell you if mods conflict now, like properly. 1185 01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:24,439 They'll do a health check, not just be like, 1186 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,279 oh, these two are modifying the same file, 1187 01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:29,199 because sometimes they do and it's fine, like realistically. 1188 01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:33,578 sometimes it'll be like actually run a health check to be like 1189 01:11:33,578 --> 01:11:35,279 your game's not going to launch buddy 1190 01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:37,138 quick aside 1191 01:11:37,138 --> 01:11:39,078 it actually pissed me off 1192 01:11:39,078 --> 01:11:41,478 right before 1193 01:11:41,478 --> 01:11:43,519 War Dogs came out I wanted 1194 01:11:43,519 --> 01:11:45,638 to do something and I was like 1195 01:11:45,638 --> 01:11:47,559 you know what I'm going to do a lightly 1196 01:11:47,559 --> 01:11:49,539 modded run like a vanilla 1197 01:11:49,539 --> 01:11:51,258 plus run of fucking Dwarf Fortress 1198 01:11:51,258 --> 01:11:53,039 I don't know 1199 01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:55,338 I don't remember the original game doing this but 1200 01:11:55,338 --> 01:11:57,738 at least the Steam version will lock 1201 01:11:57,738 --> 01:12:04,218 your fucking load order um or sorry lock your ability to create a new world if your load order 1202 01:12:04,218 --> 01:12:10,939 isn't um like recognized by the game as being proper and i fucking i i i ran it through chat 1203 01:12:10,939 --> 01:12:16,059 gpt i fucking did all my own research read through all the pages found out that it all works because 1204 01:12:16,059 --> 01:12:21,159 some of the mods like replace certain things but because the fucking dwarf fortress couldn't read 1205 01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:25,718 it they all gave feedback orange text it was like ah sorry we're not even gonna let you click the 1206 01:12:25,718 --> 01:12:27,959 start world button. Holy fuck. 1207 01:12:28,178 --> 01:12:29,678 What an infuriating time. 1208 01:12:29,758 --> 01:12:31,298 I spent three days and said, fuck it. 1209 01:12:31,498 --> 01:12:33,918 War Dogs comes out in two. I'll just wait. 1210 01:12:35,059 --> 01:12:35,519 I actually, 1211 01:12:35,718 --> 01:12:37,618 I don't think I've ever been frustrated with Dwarf 1212 01:12:37,618 --> 01:12:39,699 Fortress before, and that really 1213 01:12:39,699 --> 01:12:40,599 pissed me off. 1214 01:12:40,599 --> 01:12:41,258 It's kind of funny. 1215 01:12:41,798 --> 01:12:43,779 I guess it's kind of the same point that Rick was getting at. 1216 01:12:43,878 --> 01:12:45,638 I used ChadGBT, and even 1217 01:12:45,638 --> 01:12:47,838 GBT eventually came back with, yeah, no, this should just 1218 01:12:47,838 --> 01:12:48,439 fucking work. 1219 01:12:50,138 --> 01:12:51,298 It's like, yeah, alright. 1220 01:12:51,978 --> 01:12:53,838 That's, goddammit. 1221 01:12:55,718 --> 01:13:03,559 you know doesn't work so hey you you want to talk about something we talked about indie games before 1222 01:13:03,559 --> 01:13:11,218 there's one indie game that i you guys like cyberpunk right absolutely yeah have you heard 1223 01:13:11,218 --> 01:13:16,659 of this one called nivalis knights actually yes is that the one where you manage a bar 1224 01:13:16,659 --> 01:13:23,378 you manage a few different things it starts with the noodle stand um yes okay i i have yes 1225 01:13:23,378 --> 01:13:26,298 and I would say it's a pretty good game 1226 01:13:26,298 --> 01:13:28,539 I've played it for the past couple days 1227 01:13:28,539 --> 01:13:30,459 because it released this week 1228 01:13:30,459 --> 01:13:32,758 I'd say it's a pretty good game 1229 01:13:32,758 --> 01:13:33,998 it definitely needs 1230 01:13:33,998 --> 01:13:34,578 some 1231 01:13:34,578 --> 01:13:38,418 quality of life, some automation 1232 01:13:38,418 --> 01:13:40,838 because you're building a business empire 1233 01:13:40,838 --> 01:13:43,178 this is not 1234 01:13:43,178 --> 01:13:45,519 spoilers at all 1235 01:13:45,519 --> 01:13:46,199 this is the 1236 01:13:46,199 --> 01:13:47,699 premise 1237 01:13:47,699 --> 01:13:51,019 so basically a guy 1238 01:13:51,019 --> 01:13:53,118 that you apparently know 1239 01:13:53,118 --> 01:13:55,978 hey, I want you to run my noodle stand. 1240 01:13:56,459 --> 01:13:57,478 I'm leaving, okay, thanks, bye. 1241 01:13:58,059 --> 01:13:59,978 And then at the end of the first day, they're like, 1242 01:14:00,298 --> 01:14:03,279 hey, by the way, you're like, it's 50,000. 1243 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:04,678 No, it's 500,000. 1244 01:14:04,878 --> 01:14:07,439 You're 500,000 in debt now, by the way, 1245 01:14:07,478 --> 01:14:09,918 because when you took ownership of the bar, 1246 01:14:10,138 --> 01:14:11,779 you also took ownership of the debt. 1247 01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:16,178 That reminds me of how that one racing game started 1248 01:14:16,178 --> 01:14:19,279 that we had a demo of, the Japanese racing game. 1249 01:14:19,599 --> 01:14:20,359 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1250 01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:21,439 That one's great. 1251 01:14:21,539 --> 01:14:22,878 Nightrunners, I think is what it's called. 1252 01:14:23,118 --> 01:14:29,718 um same idea but you know different different debtor right and so uh and so you know and that's 1253 01:14:29,718 --> 01:14:35,638 your goal to create your business empire there's a lot of other reasons that are put into it and 1254 01:14:35,638 --> 01:14:41,459 all that i'm really enjoying it um i definitely want some quality of life be more automation you 1255 01:14:41,459 --> 01:14:47,039 can automate the businesses no problem you have to level them up a bit so you can hire enough staff 1256 01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:53,378 at each one because all the like levels and things like that are uh actually built into the 1257 01:14:53,378 --> 01:14:59,159 game world well like they're diegetic where it's like oh yeah you have to have a level four business 1258 01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:03,199 permit for this or yeah once you level up your business enough you can hire more staff 1259 01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:14,099 um and so yeah it's okay there's also this isn't actually the first time nivalis is uh 1260 01:15:14,099 --> 01:15:15,998 been in a game. 1261 01:15:16,099 --> 01:15:17,159 The other one's Cloudpunk. 1262 01:15:17,859 --> 01:15:18,659 I've heard of that, yeah. 1263 01:15:20,758 --> 01:15:22,059 Which is currently on sale. 1264 01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:24,279 I'm not doing ad read for the game 1265 01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:25,059 or anything, it's just 1266 01:15:25,059 --> 01:15:27,939 I happen to see that literally in front of me. 1267 01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:29,918 That Cloudpunk is super on 1268 01:15:29,918 --> 01:15:31,059 sale right now. 1269 01:15:31,738 --> 01:15:34,279 505 Games, the publisher, has really 1270 01:15:34,279 --> 01:15:36,519 kind of been going hard at it 1271 01:15:36,519 --> 01:15:36,838 too. 1272 01:15:38,059 --> 01:15:40,458 Just looking at Nivalis, maybe think about 1273 01:15:40,458 --> 01:15:40,859 it, because 1274 01:15:40,859 --> 01:15:44,498 I believe they are the publisher for Death Stranding 1275 01:15:44,498 --> 01:15:45,418 on PC as well. 1276 01:15:46,078 --> 01:15:46,918 Original game at least. 1277 01:15:49,119 --> 01:15:49,559 Maybe. 1278 01:15:50,338 --> 01:15:51,319 They've been going hard. 1279 01:15:51,819 --> 01:15:53,978 They also have the guys publishing 1280 01:15:53,978 --> 01:15:55,699 Bloodstained, 1281 01:15:56,078 --> 01:15:57,819 that Maitreya game, which I forget. 1282 01:15:58,559 --> 01:16:00,439 Someone can yell at me and get mad at me. 1283 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,559 But that's made by one of the industry guys 1284 01:16:02,559 --> 01:16:04,678 that went on to make his own game. 1285 01:16:05,418 --> 01:16:06,559 I don't remember who the fuck 1286 01:16:06,559 --> 01:16:08,699 it was now, but that looks really cool too. 1287 01:16:09,578 --> 01:16:10,619 They've got a lot of things 1288 01:16:10,619 --> 01:16:16,238 going on yeah sorry we're weird aside sorry i just i just decided to click on them because i 1289 01:16:16,238 --> 01:16:22,099 recognize them because uh i think it was ghost runner or whatever uh ost always shows up in my 1290 01:16:22,099 --> 01:16:28,159 fucking spotify all the damn time that's fair but yeah i i was just gonna say like i i really like 1291 01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:34,539 the theme the premise of the game um and where i'm saying for the automation is you end up having 1292 01:16:34,539 --> 01:16:41,539 to do a lot of running around like um yeah like they don't hide this other part of it so there's 1293 01:16:41,539 --> 01:16:47,918 a serial killer on the loose and he's almost exclusively target or not almost he is exclusively 1294 01:16:47,918 --> 01:16:53,998 targeting people in debt so that's the that's the sort of damocles hanging over your head right like 1295 01:16:53,998 --> 01:16:59,418 you gotta pay off this debt i don't know if he does actually come for you that's just kind of 1296 01:16:59,418 --> 01:17:07,019 the premise that's set before um they don't and they don't spell it out in fairness but like that 1297 01:17:07,019 --> 01:17:12,138 that is something that i'm speculating i will readily admit to that but it does sound believable 1298 01:17:12,138 --> 01:17:20,918 if i have a big ass debt uh that he might uh one day find me in an alley and you can do all kinds 1299 01:17:20,918 --> 01:17:27,319 of fun like there's a lot of really good things in the game that's something that i'm absolutely 1300 01:17:27,319 --> 01:17:30,838 going to give it is like there are a ton of really good parts of the game that i really like 1301 01:17:30,838 --> 01:17:37,718 there are only a handful of things that i wish were better which is it's not don't worry it's 1302 01:17:37,718 --> 01:17:42,618 not competing with quasi worth for game of the year i'm enjoying they would have to do some 1303 01:17:42,618 --> 01:17:48,418 massive changes to this game for me to uh think that because this is definitely more like 1304 01:17:48,418 --> 01:17:56,019 life sim you can't even jump in the game yeah it looks really interesting i notice it's not 1305 01:17:56,019 --> 01:18:01,918 evaluated for steam deck but the cloud pug is steam deck verified and they're both on sale in 1306 01:18:01,918 --> 01:18:09,819 bundle oh it might not be yet but it didn't i think it will be at some point even if it's not 1307 01:18:09,819 --> 01:18:15,998 currently if that makes sense it just came out so i i get it um they had a lot that is something 1308 01:18:15,998 --> 01:18:25,198 to note they had a lot of um uh reports coming in that the game doesn't fucking run 1309 01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:29,078 which I would argue 1310 01:18:29,078 --> 01:18:30,959 for me at least it runs fine 1311 01:18:30,959 --> 01:18:33,199 but I'm not going to pretend mine is the only 1312 01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,199 yeah 1313 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:35,939 computer right 1314 01:18:35,939 --> 01:18:38,718 oh Nibalis Nights is a platinum rating on 1315 01:18:38,718 --> 01:18:41,178 ProtonDB 1316 01:18:41,178 --> 01:18:42,879 oh shit well easy 1317 01:18:42,879 --> 01:18:46,319 I'll echo it again though 1318 01:18:46,319 --> 01:18:49,238 I still wonder how many people just don't understand 1319 01:18:49,238 --> 01:18:51,578 either don't understand their computer's limits 1320 01:18:51,578 --> 01:18:53,478 or don't understand how to put together a computer 1321 01:18:53,478 --> 01:19:00,059 and have accidentally created like bottlenecks and issues oh that's probably true too it's like i i 1322 01:19:00,059 --> 01:19:05,178 feel like that's gotta be really common but we don't we don't ever acknowledge it right like it's 1323 01:19:05,178 --> 01:19:10,859 like it's kind of taboo or rude to be like your computer sucks ass even if you're like oh well i 1324 01:19:10,859 --> 01:19:15,379 got i got fucking the biggest nvidia card and the best intel it's like it's again but have you looked 1325 01:19:15,379 --> 01:19:19,059 at like how these things interact like have you done any research or did you just buy them because 1326 01:19:19,059 --> 01:19:19,798 they were expensive. 1327 01:19:21,638 --> 01:19:23,039 Oh, I see. There's but 1328 01:19:23,039 --> 01:19:24,918 a single Steam Deck 1329 01:19:24,918 --> 01:19:26,878 reviewer in this comment thread here 1330 01:19:26,878 --> 01:19:29,178 saying that the Steam Deck is too low power for the game. 1331 01:19:29,899 --> 01:19:30,618 I believe. 1332 01:19:30,819 --> 01:19:32,819 With the right compromises, it can be playable 1333 01:19:32,819 --> 01:19:34,279 at 20 to 30 FPS. 1334 01:19:35,698 --> 01:19:37,098 But you know what? I have a PC. 1335 01:19:37,519 --> 01:19:39,059 That's okay. It's probably a 1336 01:19:39,059 --> 01:19:41,158 game that can be played at 30 FPS and be fine 1337 01:19:41,158 --> 01:19:42,218 too. Yeah. 1338 01:19:43,358 --> 01:19:45,158 As long as it's stable. I mean, you want it to be 1339 01:19:45,158 --> 01:19:47,258 stable. That's the first hurdle. 1340 01:19:47,258 --> 01:19:49,498 stable frame rate can be 1341 01:19:49,498 --> 01:19:51,399 as long as it's not like fucking 5 1342 01:19:51,399 --> 01:19:52,659 it can be good 1343 01:19:52,659 --> 01:19:54,338 it can be manageable 1344 01:19:54,338 --> 01:19:56,878 there's a lot of things on sale right now 1345 01:19:56,878 --> 01:19:58,819 there's a big Steam sale going on 1346 01:19:58,819 --> 01:20:00,279 yeah the autumn sale just started 1347 01:20:00,279 --> 01:20:02,758 I already spent 30 bucks 1348 01:20:02,758 --> 01:20:05,378 I got Mechanicus 1349 01:20:05,378 --> 01:20:05,978 for a dollar 1350 01:20:05,978 --> 01:20:07,378 what else did I get 1351 01:20:07,378 --> 01:20:09,378 hold on 1352 01:20:09,378 --> 01:20:12,738 I'm curious now I don't remember the name of the 1353 01:20:12,738 --> 01:20:13,099 I don't 1354 01:20:13,099 --> 01:20:15,878 I don't think I bought a game 1355 01:20:15,878 --> 01:20:17,438 through Steam still in a while. 1356 01:20:19,258 --> 01:20:20,078 I'm free. 1357 01:20:20,539 --> 01:20:21,159 I'm free. 1358 01:20:21,718 --> 01:20:23,779 Oh, I see you left a big ol' review 1359 01:20:23,779 --> 01:20:25,458 on Nivalis Knights, in fact. 1360 01:20:25,659 --> 01:20:28,238 Yeah, you can see exactly what I have to say there. 1361 01:20:28,539 --> 01:20:31,078 But yes, yeah, I don't... 1362 01:20:31,078 --> 01:20:32,478 Like I said, I gave it a thumbs up 1363 01:20:32,478 --> 01:20:34,298 because I do think it's a good game. 1364 01:20:34,779 --> 01:20:36,258 Straight up, I think it's a great game. 1365 01:20:36,798 --> 01:20:37,598 I think it needs 1366 01:20:37,598 --> 01:20:40,878 help to be... 1367 01:20:40,878 --> 01:20:42,779 Well, from great to game of the year 1368 01:20:42,779 --> 01:20:44,458 contender kind of stuff, right? 1369 01:20:44,559 --> 01:20:44,838 Like, 1370 01:20:45,878 --> 01:20:51,998 it this um 1371 01:20:51,998 --> 01:21:02,258 i'm gonna sneeze so i was like you went quiet what happened okay no i i pushed it down holding 1372 01:21:02,258 --> 01:21:07,539 back sneeze yeah no no i pushed it down i muscled up and pushed that sneeze now i'll pay for it 1373 01:21:07,539 --> 01:21:15,819 later um so the there are a few things that i would argue like quality of life things so like 1374 01:21:15,819 --> 01:21:19,099 if you are growing your own produce, 1375 01:21:19,378 --> 01:21:20,819 at least early in the game, 1376 01:21:20,918 --> 01:21:23,838 there is exactly one place to do that. 1377 01:21:24,519 --> 01:21:28,958 The fast travel point is across the entire district of that one. 1378 01:21:29,078 --> 01:21:30,378 So you fast travel there, 1379 01:21:30,738 --> 01:21:32,099 and it's not just, 1380 01:21:32,358 --> 01:21:35,478 oh, I can go as the crow flies. 1381 01:21:35,819 --> 01:21:37,938 It's a dock, so you've got to run around the docks. 1382 01:21:37,978 --> 01:21:38,819 You've got to go do this. 1383 01:21:38,819 --> 01:21:42,159 And it turns what should be... 1384 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:45,418 Honestly, you should be able to just fast travel to the... 1385 01:21:45,819 --> 01:21:48,578 the greenhouse directly. That's really the correct answer. 1386 01:21:51,279 --> 01:22:02,776 And instead you got it from one end to the other and you do it so frequently it gets old I see And you know it great It beautiful But again I on a mission 1387 01:22:02,936 --> 01:22:04,796 Like, I'm trying to run businesses. 1388 01:22:05,436 --> 01:22:07,436 And this is not a cozy life sim. 1389 01:22:07,836 --> 01:22:09,856 That is something I'm going to dispel. 1390 01:22:09,856 --> 01:22:15,856 Even though that is very much a kind of vibe that, like... 1391 01:22:15,856 --> 01:22:18,436 It's not cozy. 1392 01:22:18,596 --> 01:22:19,256 You're in danger. 1393 01:22:19,456 --> 01:22:19,996 But it's a life sim. 1394 01:22:20,456 --> 01:22:21,556 It is a life sim. 1395 01:22:21,956 --> 01:22:26,876 and but like you look at it you know you're supposed to talk to fucking you know a couple 1396 01:22:26,876 --> 01:22:31,716 hundred npcs all of which are voiced by the way i will give them a lot of credit there even if you 1397 01:22:31,716 --> 01:22:36,856 don't like their voice because there are some of them i don't like their voice uh uh but yeah 1398 01:22:36,856 --> 01:22:45,756 it's you know the city feels pretty alive like um and i think that it like i said i think it's a 1399 01:22:45,756 --> 01:22:51,456 really good game um there are i think i'm gonna pass on it this sale not because i think it's 1400 01:22:51,456 --> 01:22:55,976 gonna be steam deck verified in the future or fixed up in some way but because i just i need to 1401 01:22:55,976 --> 01:23:00,976 fix my relationship with pc games right like it's like i haven't been playing much uh i think 1402 01:23:00,976 --> 01:23:05,716 handhelds are gonna really unlock it for me right so that's why uh when i went through the steam sale 1403 01:23:05,716 --> 01:23:09,716 last night i was looking at like steam deck verified stuff and stuff that's cheap right and 1404 01:23:09,716 --> 01:23:15,076 so i got mechanicus for a dollar i got the ascent for a dollar i got death's door for a dollar and 1405 01:23:15,076 --> 01:23:19,176 then the reason why i spent 30 bucks last night because i also picked up endless legend for like 1406 01:23:19,176 --> 01:23:27,316 20 something sorry endless legend 2 well i have the first one already i have a couple of their 1407 01:23:27,316 --> 01:23:31,496 expansions and it's like i was too late to the party on endless legend but i really liked it 1408 01:23:31,496 --> 01:23:35,596 and endless legend 2 like just fucking came out this year so it's like oh yeah and it's 1409 01:23:35,596 --> 01:23:40,736 steam deck verified it's like uh if you don't know what that is it's like it's like a 4x game 1410 01:23:40,736 --> 01:23:44,356 kind of like civilization but it's a little bit more real time than that it's like a hybrid 1411 01:23:44,356 --> 01:23:53,376 oh yeah yeah yeah they did it yeah it's and it's a lot more fantasy because civilization's not 1412 01:23:53,376 --> 01:23:58,536 fantasy right uh it's the same people who made endless space uh if you're familiar with that 1413 01:23:58,536 --> 01:24:04,096 or seen maybe the seth video or something right um so the people that made endless space they 1414 01:24:04,096 --> 01:24:10,456 made endless legend which is like uh it's more fantasy but it's like uh it's it's it's somewhat 1415 01:24:10,456 --> 01:24:14,896 sci-fi because it's like some of the factions you play as have an origin story of we landed on this 1416 01:24:14,896 --> 01:24:20,676 planet we're fucking stuck here um and everything is weird so it's like i don't know it's got a it's 1417 01:24:20,676 --> 01:24:26,796 got that weird sci-fi vibe i love weird sci-fi it doesn't play it safe at all i'm if i'm not mistaken 1418 01:24:26,796 --> 01:24:33,776 endless legend and endless space are within the same universe i think so use this must right like 1419 01:24:33,776 --> 01:24:42,256 and i'm pretty sure that at least some of the spaceborne races and some of the fantasy races 1420 01:24:42,256 --> 01:24:49,676 are at least vaguely related it's i'm not i could be completely wrong we'll throw that on 1421 01:24:49,676 --> 01:24:54,636 on the ground it could be completely wrong for it because i don't play the games i played them 1422 01:24:54,636 --> 01:25:03,296 briefly so i'm i played both the endless legends or yeah and endless space and they had a a long 1423 01:25:03,296 --> 01:25:09,856 time ago they had a roguelite i believe yes they did uh it was endless dungeon or something like 1424 01:25:09,856 --> 01:25:15,996 that well it was it was in the space one so let me see if i can see it it was endless something 1425 01:25:15,996 --> 01:25:23,076 yeah it's a i mean it'll be in my steam library thing it i don't think it's endless i think it's 1426 01:25:23,076 --> 01:25:32,076 something else yeah um yeah i don't see it in my they did make an endless dungeon game i was right 1427 01:25:32,076 --> 01:25:36,116 on the title yeah they did make an endless dungeon game but i want to say there was that's 1428 01:25:36,116 --> 01:25:41,456 an x-com like it looks like it's top down there's a there are two of there there's another one that's 1429 01:25:41,456 --> 01:25:47,816 similar called sword of the stars oh and they did a they did a roguelite dungeon but similar 1430 01:25:47,816 --> 01:25:55,376 it's similar to endless space and that same that same kind of like fun sci-fi 1431 01:25:55,376 --> 01:26:06,836 um and both of them are cribbing real hard off of the granddaddy of uh 4x um space games 1432 01:26:06,836 --> 01:26:08,936 uh master of orion 1433 01:26:08,936 --> 01:26:17,556 was the master of orion master of orion yep uh master of orion 2 was uh the best of the master 1434 01:26:17,556 --> 01:26:23,856 of orion games uh literally all of the other ones like the first master of orion is fine 1435 01:26:23,856 --> 01:26:31,476 but the master of ryan 2 is the best of all of them including the subsequent attempts to make 1436 01:26:31,476 --> 01:26:37,096 master of ryan again i see but yeah i was i saw endless legend on sale and i saw it was steam 1437 01:26:37,096 --> 01:26:40,676 verified and it was like an impulse purchase i was like oh shit i've been waiting for this 1438 01:26:40,676 --> 01:26:45,236 and i can play on the steam deck that fits into my strategy here right like i got a game plan 1439 01:26:45,236 --> 01:26:50,316 like i'm still trading the ps5 i'm still getting the switch too i got a switch backlog that i i 1440 01:26:50,316 --> 01:26:56,396 want to get to like um like fire em on three houses i'm probably gonna start soon you know um 1441 01:26:56,396 --> 01:27:03,836 and just having like the handheld availability and the tv convenience and also like uh trying to 1442 01:27:03,836 --> 01:27:08,016 spend more time on my steam deck handheld instead of trying to play it dock to the tv i should just 1443 01:27:08,016 --> 01:27:14,516 give up i should just focus on that right um i think it's gonna be i i think i'm gonna get more 1444 01:27:14,516 --> 01:27:19,856 time in with video games without like disrupting my my other stuff i have going on because like i i 1445 01:27:19,856 --> 01:27:25,416 do have this renewed passion for learning i really want to learn go right but it's like it's more of a 1446 01:27:25,416 --> 01:27:30,976 means to an end because i'm going to be gunning for a promotion at the job right um whether that's 1447 01:27:30,976 --> 01:27:36,576 at the actual job or maybe this place i interviewed at calls me back we'll see right um but like 1448 01:27:36,576 --> 01:27:43,136 that's like an interest of mine that is just like really deep in my soul but like um i also really 1449 01:27:43,136 --> 01:27:50,996 want one of them clamshell handhelds for like when i'm ootin' a boot you know um like uh on 1450 01:27:50,996 --> 01:27:56,836 public transit and whatnot because uh when i do go to the office uh it is quite the ride um there 1451 01:27:56,836 --> 01:28:05,976 and back um but i i bring it up because why did i bring it up shit i was going somewhere with that 1452 01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:10,116 give me a second it'll come to me 1453 01:28:10,116 --> 01:28:20,356 yeah it's like i i don't want to look too much into the the steam sales because i know i'll be 1454 01:28:20,356 --> 01:28:24,896 tempted by all those lovely low prices and it's like i've got other other things to do 1455 01:28:24,896 --> 01:28:29,496 oh right and the other thing i i recently started doing i started playing pokemon again 1456 01:28:29,496 --> 01:28:36,676 which one card game trading card game yeah i had a feeling so you know what it is 1457 01:28:36,676 --> 01:28:43,916 yeah it's still very much a thing it is more almost more of a thing than it was before here 1458 01:28:43,916 --> 01:28:47,716 that's the weird thing i noticed right so it's been kind of weird getting back in because like 1459 01:28:47,716 --> 01:28:52,656 i i wanted to spark that interest in my oldest son uh on his last birthday which is back in june 1460 01:28:52,656 --> 01:28:57,276 uh with his own deck right which was right off the shelf but i sleeved it up i took it out of 1461 01:28:57,276 --> 01:29:02,896 the box and i got him a nice set of uh dice and a box to put his cards in and he was pretty excited 1462 01:29:02,896 --> 01:29:06,556 but like he just wanted to see the pretty cards and he just wanted to keep collecting he didn't 1463 01:29:06,556 --> 01:29:14,336 really have an interest in playing you know what we did um at some point uh destiny she went to 1464 01:29:14,336 --> 01:29:18,616 our local card shop the place we used to go to all the fucking time it was our third place as it were 1465 01:29:18,616 --> 01:29:25,856 right and um the people there uh the people that own the store right like they had a couple of decks 1466 01:29:25,856 --> 01:29:32,116 for sale that were like custom made and sleeved and meta right there's three of them and she bought 1467 01:29:32,116 --> 01:29:37,936 one and i expecting to play with my son when i got him that deck for his birthday i you know 1468 01:29:37,936 --> 01:29:42,516 preemptively got myself one of those world champion reprint decks from like the previous format 1469 01:29:42,516 --> 01:29:49,156 but like the imbalance of power was too great it's like that deck was cheese and i didn't realize 1470 01:29:49,156 --> 01:29:54,976 how bad it was and also the power creep is crazy right so it's like it wasn't exactly a good fit so 1471 01:29:54,976 --> 01:30:00,696 she got this new deck um which uses all current cards and it's like a functional like a deck you'd 1472 01:30:00,696 --> 01:30:08,256 at a tournament and you know i it was you know not a landslide like i i i don't remember the 1473 01:30:08,256 --> 01:30:12,896 score exactly i think i lost one in one one i don't recall um but like it didn't feel right 1474 01:30:12,896 --> 01:30:16,516 using the world champion deck from the previous format and so i went down there and i bought 1475 01:30:16,516 --> 01:30:23,076 myself one a different one um and then we just started playing the game and our kids were watching 1476 01:30:23,076 --> 01:30:28,136 and and all of a sudden they were interested in learning and we sat them down and we made them 1477 01:30:28,136 --> 01:30:34,616 learn and they're they're still not ready to play uh they they have an idea how but they need to be 1478 01:30:34,616 --> 01:30:39,156 supervised uh and i don't think they're ready to lose if i'm being honest with you i think i think 1479 01:30:39,156 --> 01:30:44,656 they need to probably pilot us like like we're mech suits or something and then let one of us win 1480 01:30:44,656 --> 01:30:51,176 by or lose by proxy to emotionally handle it but it's you know it they're not ready for their first 1481 01:30:51,176 --> 01:30:55,036 loss yet but uh they're learning how to play the dang card game and it makes me very happy and it's 1482 01:30:55,036 --> 01:31:03,096 like it's a thing we could do it's a new thing we can do that doesn't involve a um what's it called 1483 01:31:03,096 --> 01:31:09,616 doesn't involve a screen but you know what if i had a retroid pocket duo or an iron thor i could 1484 01:31:09,616 --> 01:31:15,036 sit there at the card shop watch my son play and coach him on his moves while you know playing 1485 01:31:15,036 --> 01:31:22,296 gex enter the gecko on my damn handheld oh oh you know what you could do in real meta about this 1486 01:31:22,296 --> 01:31:26,035 get your one get you one of those handhelds that plays old game boy games 1487 01:31:26,035 --> 01:31:35,156 and play the pokemon trading card game game boy game oh yeah oh my goodness i i actually could 1488 01:31:35,156 --> 01:31:41,096 that's really funny actually what is that game maker the uh so i i mentioned the big three right 1489 01:31:41,096 --> 01:31:46,656 it's ayn retroid and amber nick but there's a fourth player that people don't like to talk 1490 01:31:46,656 --> 01:31:50,716 about because it's got palmer lucky at the helm the guy that you know what does he do here i think 1491 01:31:50,716 --> 01:31:57,176 he makes missiles now or some shit um couldn't tell you he's uh he's a canceled rich guy that's 1492 01:31:57,176 --> 01:32:04,236 all there is to it and so he has a retro company and people hesitate to praise it because they 1493 01:32:04,236 --> 01:32:10,016 can't separate owner from product which i i got that that's their prerogative sure but like i 1494 01:32:10,016 --> 01:32:17,036 don't know his stuff looks pretty good actually um like recently uh there was it was mod retro 1495 01:32:17,036 --> 01:32:18,556 right not retroid 1496 01:32:18,556 --> 01:32:20,296 different company 1497 01:32:20,296 --> 01:32:23,376 they make more recently 1498 01:32:23,376 --> 01:32:24,416 the M64 1499 01:32:24,416 --> 01:32:26,636 that's the letter M as in Mario 1500 01:32:26,636 --> 01:32:29,376 which is a 1501 01:32:29,376 --> 01:32:30,616 very slim very tiny 1502 01:32:30,616 --> 01:32:32,956 N64 with custom firmware 1503 01:32:32,956 --> 01:32:35,256 but like you slide in one of your cartridges 1504 01:32:35,256 --> 01:32:36,116 and it fucking works 1505 01:32:36,116 --> 01:32:37,796 oh that's cool 1506 01:32:37,796 --> 01:32:40,116 I do not have any of mine left 1507 01:32:40,116 --> 01:32:41,636 if I did 1508 01:32:41,636 --> 01:32:44,176 that would be something cool 1509 01:32:44,176 --> 01:32:46,096 and then the other device they make is the Chromatic 1510 01:32:46,096 --> 01:32:52,856 which is um uh in the game boy format but it's like it's got a really nice screen 1511 01:32:52,856 --> 01:32:59,336 i think it's an oled actually but it has a slot for you know your game boy games and you 1512 01:32:59,336 --> 01:33:07,176 just slot them in and it just works um and i i get it like i totally get it and that's that 1513 01:33:07,176 --> 01:33:11,436 could be a device that i play the pokemon trading card game on but no the reason i bring it up is uh 1514 01:33:11,436 --> 01:33:12,936 they were at open AI's, 1515 01:33:12,936 --> 01:33:13,556 um, 1516 01:33:14,035 --> 01:33:17,136 little expo event and they were showing off an unreleased product, 1517 01:33:17,136 --> 01:33:17,996 which is like a slimmer, 1518 01:33:18,136 --> 01:33:19,256 smaller version of the, 1519 01:33:19,256 --> 01:33:20,876 of the game boy thing that they make. 1520 01:33:21,156 --> 01:33:21,556 Uh, 1521 01:33:21,596 --> 01:33:25,916 and I open AI had something to do with it and they're trying to like help 1522 01:33:25,916 --> 01:33:26,516 people make, 1523 01:33:26,516 --> 01:33:26,976 you know, 1524 01:33:27,076 --> 01:33:30,476 new games that are for this kind of hardware that is like compatible with 1525 01:33:30,476 --> 01:33:30,916 game boys, 1526 01:33:30,996 --> 01:33:31,256 but like, 1527 01:33:31,276 --> 01:33:31,896 it's not a game boy. 1528 01:33:31,976 --> 01:33:32,816 I don't know what they're up to. 1529 01:33:33,736 --> 01:33:34,096 Um, 1530 01:33:34,556 --> 01:33:35,236 but these, 1531 01:33:35,416 --> 01:33:35,696 uh, 1532 01:33:35,876 --> 01:33:38,916 unlike the big three that I just talked about how beloved they are by the 1533 01:33:38,916 --> 01:33:39,376 modding capabilities, 1534 01:33:39,384 --> 01:33:46,204 the retro mod community it's mod retro the palmer lucky's company and these two products i just 1535 01:33:46,204 --> 01:33:53,264 named that are on shelves in gamestop and that pisses a lot of people i get it i would i would 1536 01:33:53,264 --> 01:33:58,204 love to go to a box store like like gamestop and pick up an ein thor that would be lovely 1537 01:33:58,204 --> 01:34:03,644 um but the only options they have there is the the chromatic and the m64 1538 01:34:03,644 --> 01:34:12,524 you know it's weird saying m64 it makes it sound like um you know it's a uh firecracker 1539 01:34:12,524 --> 01:34:15,684 oh yeah like an m80 yeah exactly 1540 01:34:15,684 --> 01:34:24,104 check the link that's what it looks like it's got like a little knob and like a little slider 1541 01:34:24,104 --> 01:34:28,884 switch it's like it's everything that makes the n64 the n64 but it's like new and exciting and 1542 01:34:28,884 --> 01:34:35,084 small and they even have the clear like plastic look on all the colors that aren't the default 1543 01:34:35,084 --> 01:34:38,564 actually no they're all clear even the default i stand corrected 1544 01:34:38,564 --> 01:34:48,424 yeah i'm on there go easy the m64 every kid that didn't own a clear n64 was jealous 1545 01:34:48,424 --> 01:34:52,244 yeah i believe this is this is a way of fixing that jealousy 1546 01:34:52,244 --> 01:34:57,584 it's got full compatibility with original cartridges and controllers and you can go 1547 01:34:57,584 --> 01:35:02,964 back and play all your old favorites identical gameplay timing and audio htmi video output to 4k 1548 01:35:02,964 --> 01:35:07,904 customization options like crt filters and overclocking modules all backed by wireless or 1549 01:35:07,904 --> 01:35:16,204 wired updates yeah it's like uh the three companies i mentioned they're not making shit like this 1550 01:35:16,204 --> 01:35:20,344 that's pretty fucking neat actually right yeah it's really cool but the guy that owns the company 1551 01:35:20,344 --> 01:35:25,104 is a rich canceled man so it's like they're not allowed to like it it's like those ai haters 1552 01:35:25,104 --> 01:35:29,224 they're like i'm not allowed to like this i it retroactively sucks i take back everything i said 1553 01:35:29,224 --> 01:35:39,144 it's like then you're performative of course well really shocker i know um performative hatred 1554 01:35:39,144 --> 01:35:44,624 well it's always been performative right like so we just didn't have a word for it before and 1555 01:35:44,624 --> 01:35:48,364 now it's overused but it's like it's fucking true it's the right it's the right word for it 1556 01:35:48,364 --> 01:35:53,364 well right so like you know i i've probably brought it up on the podcast before but like 1557 01:35:53,364 --> 01:36:03,064 Back in around 2004, 2005, somewhere around that ballpark, there was a big hubbub in the U.S. about this fast food place called Chick-fil-A. 1558 01:36:03,724 --> 01:36:06,364 Chick-fil-A, they are a Christian company. 1559 01:36:06,864 --> 01:36:07,824 They always have been. 1560 01:36:07,904 --> 01:36:09,484 They've always been closed on fucking Sunday. 1561 01:36:09,884 --> 01:36:10,384 No big deal. 1562 01:36:10,924 --> 01:36:12,264 Nobody should be surprised about this. 1563 01:36:13,064 --> 01:36:16,484 And the company itself actually didn't do shit. 1564 01:36:16,744 --> 01:36:17,664 I want to point that out. 1565 01:36:18,144 --> 01:36:22,564 This is part of the, well, they're guilty by association. 1566 01:36:22,564 --> 01:36:28,564 the ceo at the time or one of the high level executives i believe it was ceo but i i'm willing 1567 01:36:28,564 --> 01:36:39,704 to be wrong on it who cares um he um donated a sizable portion of money to christian camps and 1568 01:36:39,704 --> 01:36:44,084 these are not like the go learn about god christian camps these are like the pray the gay away kind of 1569 01:36:44,084 --> 01:36:52,164 christian camps or or leave your home until you're no longer gay supposedly um like i'm not arguing 1570 01:36:52,164 --> 01:36:57,544 for the benefit of these or anything like that that's not the point the point is it's his money 1571 01:36:57,544 --> 01:37:02,364 he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it straight up and i know it was performative 1572 01:37:02,364 --> 01:37:09,244 because if you actually gave a shit you wouldn't have been driving a car because 1573 01:37:09,244 --> 01:37:16,804 basically every single gasoline company in the u.s petrol for those of you who don't live in the u.s 1574 01:37:16,804 --> 01:37:20,584 donated to the same kind of charities 1575 01:37:20,584 --> 01:37:22,664 as a company. 1576 01:37:23,864 --> 01:37:26,384 Basically every technological company. 1577 01:37:26,724 --> 01:37:29,224 If they were Microsoft, any of those, 1578 01:37:29,584 --> 01:37:31,144 they also did that sort of thing. 1579 01:37:31,544 --> 01:37:32,784 Honestly, the way I look at it 1580 01:37:32,784 --> 01:37:35,324 is if I was ever given shit for buying this 1581 01:37:35,324 --> 01:37:38,064 or something similar in a similar context, right? 1582 01:37:39,744 --> 01:37:41,784 I would just ask them to show me 1583 01:37:41,784 --> 01:37:43,024 what kind of phone they use. 1584 01:37:44,204 --> 01:37:46,244 And I would say 90% of the time, 1585 01:37:46,804 --> 01:37:54,324 Whatever phone they show me, I'm like, okay, that was probably made with slave labor or underpaid labor at the very least. 1586 01:37:55,724 --> 01:37:56,944 Slave labor is accurate. 1587 01:37:59,204 --> 01:38:02,824 It's like, okay, so which one of us is morally superior, asshole? 1588 01:38:03,404 --> 01:38:06,964 Well, it's not that you're – nobody's really morally superior. 1589 01:38:06,964 --> 01:38:07,804 Nobody is. 1590 01:38:08,004 --> 01:38:21,572 But in this argument right it just stupid This very same kind of performative hatred also like steers you know would be Enjoyers away from the Brave browser I not using the Brave browser personally 1591 01:38:21,792 --> 01:38:29,272 I really like Zen, but the hatred for the Brandon Eich guy, he's the guy that used to run Firefox, and now he runs Brave. 1592 01:38:30,252 --> 01:38:38,192 He's canceled because he donated to California's Prop 8, which is a thing in 2008 that defined marriage as between a man and a woman, 1593 01:38:38,192 --> 01:38:44,112 which was the popular opinion the majority opinion in 2008 held by president obama himself 1594 01:38:44,112 --> 01:38:50,892 like what the fuck like why why are you mad at him and not like everyone else and not obama himself 1595 01:38:50,892 --> 01:38:55,452 i know well why did he get a pass i mean yeah i mean they know i know i know they glass it later 1596 01:38:55,452 --> 01:39:02,512 right but like at the time that was the stance of all the people in power and the most of the people 1597 01:39:02,512 --> 01:39:09,712 around and like people selectively retroactively punish people for it and it's fucking stupid it's 1598 01:39:09,712 --> 01:39:14,972 performative absolutely performative that should be maybe that would be the episode title it's 1599 01:39:14,972 --> 01:39:21,632 performative we're performative now and we we uh begin the podcast with all this talk about like 1600 01:39:21,632 --> 01:39:25,452 decomps and emulation and shit and it's like that would be a really funny title actually 1601 01:39:25,452 --> 01:39:27,912 you have to get all the way through the episode to figure out why i called it that 1602 01:39:27,912 --> 01:39:30,052 but I don't know 1603 01:39:30,052 --> 01:39:32,132 I guess the way I look at a lot of this stuff too 1604 01:39:32,132 --> 01:39:32,752 is like 1605 01:39:32,752 --> 01:39:35,552 the morals of it all 1606 01:39:35,552 --> 01:39:37,872 tends to not matter 1607 01:39:37,872 --> 01:39:39,692 depending on the person right 1608 01:39:39,692 --> 01:39:42,012 but if it was genuinely 1609 01:39:42,012 --> 01:39:43,392 truly a problem 1610 01:39:43,392 --> 01:39:45,992 go report it to the fucking 1611 01:39:45,992 --> 01:39:48,132 authorities tip them off 1612 01:39:48,132 --> 01:39:50,192 it's like 1613 01:39:50,192 --> 01:39:51,952 well I mean they won't 1614 01:39:51,952 --> 01:39:53,932 and they can't because at the end of the day these people 1615 01:39:53,932 --> 01:39:55,872 aren't really doing anything or at least openly 1616 01:39:55,872 --> 01:39:58,092 visibly doing anything horrible. 1617 01:39:59,472 --> 01:39:59,612 Because 1618 01:39:59,612 --> 01:40:02,012 companies in the US, at the very least, 1619 01:40:02,192 --> 01:40:02,992 in Canada too, 1620 01:40:03,672 --> 01:40:06,092 aren't allowed to use slave 1621 01:40:06,092 --> 01:40:08,032 labor. And a lot of them will tell you, oh, no, no, no, we 1622 01:40:08,032 --> 01:40:10,132 don't. But there's reports 1623 01:40:10,132 --> 01:40:11,952 all the damn time of them still doing it. 1624 01:40:12,492 --> 01:40:13,812 Well, that's what every 1625 01:40:13,812 --> 01:40:15,872 unpaid illegal or underpaid illegal 1626 01:40:15,872 --> 01:40:16,972 is. They're slave laborers. 1627 01:40:17,352 --> 01:40:18,352 Pretending it's not. 1628 01:40:19,152 --> 01:40:21,632 Pretending it's not is just so you can 1629 01:40:21,632 --> 01:40:23,692 protect your feelings. And I mean, Canada is 1630 01:40:23,692 --> 01:40:25,632 fucking filled to the brim of that right now. 1631 01:40:25,872 --> 01:40:30,632 honestly at the end of the day it's like 1632 01:40:30,632 --> 01:40:34,872 you know what if you want to hold that moral standpoint 1633 01:40:34,872 --> 01:40:37,272 and you want to take that moral high ground on people 1634 01:40:37,272 --> 01:40:39,592 go put your money where your mouth is asshole 1635 01:40:39,592 --> 01:40:41,992 yeah they won't 1636 01:40:41,992 --> 01:40:43,592 no you basically can't 1637 01:40:43,592 --> 01:40:45,492 you can't escape it 1638 01:40:45,492 --> 01:40:48,092 that's something that a lot of people need to accept 1639 01:40:48,092 --> 01:40:50,352 is you cannot 1640 01:40:50,352 --> 01:40:51,632 you can want better 1641 01:40:51,632 --> 01:40:53,012 you can hope for better 1642 01:40:53,012 --> 01:40:54,052 you can try for better 1643 01:40:54,052 --> 01:40:59,472 but like oh yeah sure i mean let's be real uh i don't know this guy to be fair the the mod retro 1644 01:40:59,472 --> 01:41:05,732 guy i mean i i don't know him uh i've not heard of the the stuff before now um but let's just say 1645 01:41:05,732 --> 01:41:09,792 i fucking hate his guts it's like i fucking hate him it's like okay but he made a cool fucking 1646 01:41:09,792 --> 01:41:14,832 product and he's already rich it's really not gonna fucking matter uh and guess what i get to 1647 01:41:14,832 --> 01:41:20,352 play n64 games on a console they no longer fucking make it's like an hdmi output that plugs into your 1648 01:41:20,352 --> 01:41:26,952 4k tv um that is a net positive fucking gain in my life who the fuck else gets to say anything else 1649 01:41:26,952 --> 01:41:33,932 about it i know it's like bro i used to love playing worms and when i when i saw that team 1650 01:41:33,932 --> 01:41:38,832 17 still publishes games which for the record uh they publish war dogs they publish hell it loose 1651 01:41:38,832 --> 01:41:46,192 um and basically if it's a semi realistic shooter they produced it probably yeah and i mean they're 1652 01:41:46,192 --> 01:41:50,912 actually they're making two new worms games too um but but i play worms it's probably one of the 1653 01:41:50,912 --> 01:41:56,372 first games that i put hundreds of hours into it as a kid right it's like i loved that game i 1654 01:41:56,372 --> 01:42:02,472 fucking i had my team that i built in in the game i had it like maxed all the way up i remember 1655 01:42:02,472 --> 01:42:10,072 the rankings i lived in this uh apartment complex uh for a while when i was in fifth grade through 1656 01:42:10,072 --> 01:42:16,692 a couple years after right um and i i made fast friends with all the the kids living there there 1657 01:42:16,692 --> 01:42:25,712 was this one kid uh he had an n64 and uh his apartment was on the bottom floor uh on the 1658 01:42:25,712 --> 01:42:29,772 the edge where there are like two buildings and there's like a little pathway through 1659 01:42:29,772 --> 01:42:34,452 and there's like some electrical box like in front of his window and so it was customary to 1660 01:42:34,452 --> 01:42:38,412 enter his house through his bedroom window that was just what we did i don't know why it was stupid 1661 01:42:38,412 --> 01:42:40,952 We could have gone through his door, but we were fucking stupid. 1662 01:42:40,952 --> 01:42:41,952 We were kids. 1663 01:42:41,952 --> 01:42:42,952 You were children and it's fun. 1664 01:42:42,952 --> 01:42:43,952 It's fucking fun. 1665 01:42:43,952 --> 01:42:44,952 Yeah. 1666 01:42:44,952 --> 01:42:59,760 And so like imagine like yeah that unique right You remember three other kids are like diving through his window and then we going to go play Turok and four players split screen multiplayer It was fucking awesome Oh fuck Yeah I forgot all about Turok bro That what we did And you know they couldn do that shit to my room because I was on the second floor 1667 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,060 They had to knock. Get climbing. 1668 01:43:03,580 --> 01:43:04,640 Yeah, it was fun, though. 1669 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:07,560 Half my games were like 1670 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,420 either single player or two player because I had a PlayStation. 1671 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,540 So it's like my house wasn't 1672 01:43:11,540 --> 01:43:13,420 like the hangout spot. But if they ever needed 1673 01:43:13,420 --> 01:43:15,400 tips on, you know, breeding a gold 1674 01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,460 chocobo, I memorized the steps as a child. 1675 01:43:17,460 --> 01:43:19,420 So it's like I was I was your RPG guy. 1676 01:43:19,860 --> 01:43:25,780 But like but I finally remember, you know, going through the window and playing Turok. 1677 01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:26,940 It was fun as hell. 1678 01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:32,420 Anyways, fellas, I brought up Discord earlier and I'll end on it. 1679 01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,140 Well, I'll end on this note. 1680 01:43:34,180 --> 01:43:34,340 Right. 1681 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,840 So I brought up Discord earlier because, yeah, everything we talked about was, you know, that that really happened. 1682 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:39,380 And that was crazy. 1683 01:43:40,260 --> 01:43:44,940 But on the subject of Discord alternatives, I really am only seeing two. 1684 01:43:44,940 --> 01:43:45,340 Right. 1685 01:43:45,820 --> 01:43:47,700 Well, really, I'm only seeing one. 1686 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:49,580 I see the second one because I subscribe, right? 1687 01:43:49,700 --> 01:43:55,160 So I think, you know, there's a lot less of a splash this time of, you know, 1688 01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,220 alternative speaking up, be like, hey, we exist. 1689 01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:58,360 Come on over. 1690 01:43:58,700 --> 01:43:59,100 Right. 1691 01:43:59,540 --> 01:44:01,640 But two stick out that I want to highlight. 1692 01:44:01,740 --> 01:44:04,200 And I want to tell you my thoughts. 1693 01:44:04,660 --> 01:44:06,480 So first is obviously Root. 1694 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:07,860 That's the one I keep seeing. 1695 01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:10,240 Apparently Root is growing quite a bit. 1696 01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:15,880 and they have like a five six digit number of people on it uh which compared to discord is 1697 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:20,240 nothing right discord's got millions of people right um but that's nothing to scoff at it's not 1698 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:26,840 small it's definitely a lot bigger than um stoat um or some of the other ones that i mentioned when 1699 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:32,640 we talked about this last right yeah so good for them but i will reiterate my point uh which i also 1700 01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:39,480 wrote in writing uh root has funding private equity funding they will have to pay those loans back 1701 01:44:39,480 --> 01:44:43,320 i don't know how they're gonna make money they seem to have like a shop of some kind where you 1702 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:50,040 you can pay them already so maybe their plan is oh if this works out then we'll never betray our 1703 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:55,400 users but like they always do like i wouldn't necessarily trust them but i would use it like 1704 01:44:55,400 --> 01:45:00,480 i think it's one of those use it in the meanwhile moments but i think also it might not be a smart 1705 01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:05,380 choice because i mean look i mean discord started out that way too i know it would just lock us in 1706 01:45:05,380 --> 01:45:07,500 Discord had some fucky 1707 01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:09,980 I was about to say cringe 1708 01:45:09,980 --> 01:45:10,720 It was just gross 1709 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,840 Gross shit to start realistically 1710 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,580 I guess for those 1711 01:45:15,580 --> 01:45:16,640 For those who don't know 1712 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,160 There was some weird 1713 01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,420 Double standards to do with 1714 01:45:21,420 --> 01:45:23,540 Pornographic stuff 1715 01:45:23,540 --> 01:45:24,980 Right 1716 01:45:24,980 --> 01:45:26,240 I remember 1717 01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:26,820 Anyways 1718 01:45:26,820 --> 01:45:31,780 Rules for thee but not for me 1719 01:45:31,780 --> 01:45:32,420 Exactly 1720 01:45:32,420 --> 01:45:33,740 So root 1721 01:45:33,740 --> 01:45:35,100 It's like 1722 01:45:35,380 --> 01:45:39,400 If our community is so sick of Discord, they actually want to switch. 1723 01:45:39,740 --> 01:45:40,860 I'd happily set up Root. 1724 01:45:41,020 --> 01:45:45,360 I actually already made an account and I made a Root server that is called Melon Mancy, 1725 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:49,120 but I have not customized it whatsoever because the mobile app doesn't really let me do that. 1726 01:45:49,620 --> 01:45:52,800 All I can do is really chat and sort of create stuff. 1727 01:45:52,900 --> 01:45:58,140 But like all these things they talk about on Twitter, because Root has been being funny lately. 1728 01:45:58,140 --> 01:46:01,060 Like they've been quote-seating all of Discord's little tweets and all the news 1729 01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:02,860 and talking about how much cooler their thing is. 1730 01:46:02,860 --> 01:46:07,600 like like what do you mean you make people pay for animated profile pictures you can do that for free 1731 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:15,100 on our thing and it's like yeah for now sure right um but it's currently the truth and you know 1732 01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:20,200 it's their right to boast about it because it's a good thing that they did i can't take that away 1733 01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:25,500 from them uh but like feature wise it's like beat for beat with discord it would seem but with a 1734 01:46:25,500 --> 01:46:30,940 couple of uh you know differences and some cool things like there was like uh some minecraft server 1735 01:46:30,940 --> 01:46:34,540 integration stuff going on where you can have like a dynamic map like remember the dynamic map for 1736 01:46:34,540 --> 01:46:38,740 hero craft we used to browse all this fucking time like imagine that was just like a tab in the 1737 01:46:38,740 --> 01:46:44,240 fucking server browser right like one of the custom channels kind of neat yeah imagine running a 1738 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:48,320 discord or a minecraft server and it's like oh by the way here's the map of the fucking server 1739 01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:53,760 like that's fucking cool like very creative use of having their own app great use of free will 1740 01:46:53,760 --> 01:47:00,080 it's actually funny because like i've been toying with the idea of trying like thinking about um 1741 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:07,480 one of our friends uh sometimes gets uh like hand-me-down stuff from his work and if he ever 1742 01:47:07,480 --> 01:47:13,580 had one of their like office pcs i was going to turn into a server machine if he uh i was willing 1743 01:47:13,580 --> 01:47:17,780 to send it my way hell yeah and i wanted to do vintage story and you know what one of the things 1744 01:47:17,780 --> 01:47:24,280 you can do a vintage story similar to minecraft is you can do one of those um interactive maps 1745 01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:34,848 online So that would be fucking cool Absolutely I bet that You could vibe code it Oh 100 1746 01:47:34,848 --> 01:47:36,888 you could, yeah. Well, if it doesn't support it, I mean 1747 01:47:36,888 --> 01:47:38,868 you can get it to work on Root. Oh, I see 1748 01:47:38,868 --> 01:47:40,828 what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I mean, I've already 1749 01:47:40,828 --> 01:47:42,748 used vibe coding in that same context. 1750 01:47:43,248 --> 01:47:44,648 Yeah, and it's like, so I 1751 01:47:44,648 --> 01:47:46,888 can't hate on Root as sketchy as 1752 01:47:46,888 --> 01:47:48,128 their funding situation is. 1753 01:47:49,568 --> 01:47:50,688 Rather be on there than Discord. 1754 01:47:51,348 --> 01:47:52,628 The other option is Velour. 1755 01:47:52,628 --> 01:47:56,728 now i see a lot of velour's posts because i follow the lead dev and i follow their account 1756 01:47:56,728 --> 01:48:00,828 because it was my favorite seen them i've actually seen them a little bit too lately 1757 01:48:00,828 --> 01:48:04,868 people have been recommending not from them but people people recommending them yeah in the wild 1758 01:48:04,868 --> 01:48:13,588 um during the whole uh discord being flayed alive um little segment there uh i saw people 1759 01:48:13,588 --> 01:48:17,088 saying you know like well where the fuck are we even supposed to go and people like whoa velour's 1760 01:48:17,088 --> 01:48:23,128 pretty good yeah the the velour guy is very awesome he has doubled down on you know principles 1761 01:48:23,128 --> 01:48:29,348 of freedom he you know spends a lot of his time on twitter talking about how you know discord is 1762 01:48:29,348 --> 01:48:35,648 just not not right and how he would never hand over data to any government he would rather delete it 1763 01:48:35,648 --> 01:48:40,928 um which that doesn't sound legal but whatever uh but what he did was well first of all velour is 1764 01:48:40,928 --> 01:48:47,068 open source they just shipped end-to-end encrypted chats so now there's nothing for him to hand over 1765 01:48:47,068 --> 01:48:48,728 if someone wanted to seize the data. 1766 01:48:48,968 --> 01:48:49,708 It's all end-to-end encrypted. 1767 01:48:49,828 --> 01:48:51,848 You just had to have been there for the chat. 1768 01:48:53,628 --> 01:48:54,968 Honestly, great move. 1769 01:48:56,168 --> 01:48:56,888 It's self-hostable. 1770 01:48:57,108 --> 01:48:59,008 Reviving IRGC chats? 1771 01:48:59,728 --> 01:49:00,728 I mean, basically. 1772 01:49:01,268 --> 01:49:03,048 It's kind of like IRC, but like... 1773 01:49:03,048 --> 01:49:04,868 IRC. I said IRGC. 1774 01:49:05,588 --> 01:49:07,168 I feel like that was something, too, 1775 01:49:07,228 --> 01:49:08,168 but I'm blanking on it. 1776 01:49:08,368 --> 01:49:10,128 That was the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. 1777 01:49:11,248 --> 01:49:12,108 Oh, yeah, you're right. 1778 01:49:13,108 --> 01:49:14,568 Don't be confused with the chat protocol 1779 01:49:14,568 --> 01:49:15,508 of almost the same name. 1780 01:49:15,508 --> 01:49:26,888 too bad dylan you didn't have like an islamic song on your uh i don't my my soundboard if anyone 1781 01:49:26,888 --> 01:49:31,528 knows how to configure sound ducks for uh uh hyperland let me know because my keybinds don't 1782 01:49:31,528 --> 01:49:39,908 work and it makes me very sad this is me scrolling for a sad um area i don't have a hockey 1783 01:49:39,908 --> 01:49:46,828 this i had to click it with my mouse like a caveman anyway anyway i shouldn't complain too much so 1784 01:49:46,828 --> 01:49:51,308 velour looks great apparently there are over 25 000 people which is a five digit number which is 1785 01:49:51,308 --> 01:49:56,348 way less than root however you can host your own goddamn server and there's like blended hosting so 1786 01:49:56,348 --> 01:50:01,428 like let's say you don't have the money or resources to host all the images but you still 1787 01:50:01,428 --> 01:50:06,528 want images you could do just the chat channels and the encryption keys and you can do the images 1788 01:50:06,528 --> 01:50:09,968 on their server it's like a weird blended approach i i would need to reread that to be certain 1789 01:50:09,968 --> 01:50:15,388 but like it's not all or nothing you don't have to just host it all yourself or nothing like there's 1790 01:50:15,388 --> 01:50:22,048 there's more options which is unique to them uh but my original plan and it really it's it's still 1791 01:50:22,048 --> 01:50:30,148 the plan um i need to look deeper into a lore see if they have chat recording options that are 1792 01:50:30,148 --> 01:50:33,188 similar to mumble and if they do our mumble server is going to become a valor server we're 1793 01:50:33,188 --> 01:50:38,648 gonna start recording this show there like that's always been the goal um but you tell us when and 1794 01:50:38,648 --> 01:50:46,108 we'll do it and then you know you're uh the weird people that use us for use our mumble for reasons 1795 01:50:46,108 --> 01:50:50,948 yeah no no hate to the randoms in the mumble server but why is there how many are there now 1796 01:50:50,948 --> 01:50:55,868 one two three four five six people i don't know in the channels below not even listening to us 1797 01:50:55,868 --> 01:50:59,248 record like they're in the other channels like the discord backup channels they also have like 1798 01:50:59,248 --> 01:51:00,788 weird fucking names. 1799 01:51:01,508 --> 01:51:03,628 And sometimes I'll drop in on them and they're like 1800 01:51:03,628 --> 01:51:04,948 not talking. 1801 01:51:05,548 --> 01:51:06,468 It's very odd. 1802 01:51:07,048 --> 01:51:09,788 Maybe they're, you know, clankers 1803 01:51:09,788 --> 01:51:11,388 and they're communicating 1804 01:51:11,388 --> 01:51:12,588 in other ways. 1805 01:51:13,248 --> 01:51:15,848 But why on a public mumble server? I don't get that. 1806 01:51:17,148 --> 01:51:17,848 Well, maybe 1807 01:51:17,848 --> 01:51:19,108 it's like the IRC chats. 1808 01:51:19,448 --> 01:51:20,368 See, I said it right this time. 1809 01:51:20,768 --> 01:51:23,788 I wonder if the IRGC is in IRC. 1810 01:51:24,708 --> 01:51:25,148 Anyways, 1811 01:51:25,148 --> 01:51:27,108 this has been Mel and Nancy Podcast, episode 1812 01:51:27,108 --> 01:51:28,808 130. 1813 01:51:29,248 --> 01:51:32,448 if you would like us to respond live in our show, 1814 01:51:32,568 --> 01:51:34,028 any prompt you want, 1815 01:51:34,108 --> 01:51:35,848 a human prompt, 1816 01:51:35,948 --> 01:51:36,528 I'm not a robot. 1817 01:51:37,068 --> 01:51:38,328 You can send us a boostogram. 1818 01:51:38,548 --> 01:51:39,368 If you don't know what that is, 1819 01:51:39,468 --> 01:51:41,868 check out new podcast apps.com fountain FM is my favorite. 1820 01:51:41,948 --> 01:51:43,148 That's also where the show is hosted. 1821 01:51:43,488 --> 01:51:44,068 I mean, 1822 01:51:44,188 --> 01:51:44,808 I can feed, 1823 01:51:44,908 --> 01:51:47,348 I can feed the prompt into GPT for them, 1824 01:51:47,368 --> 01:51:47,728 I guess. 1825 01:51:47,968 --> 01:51:48,188 Yeah. 1826 01:51:48,248 --> 01:51:50,668 That's called something I feel comfortable saying out loud. 1827 01:51:50,768 --> 01:51:51,008 Yes. 1828 01:51:51,968 --> 01:51:52,368 Yes. 1829 01:51:53,788 --> 01:51:54,648 But you know, 1830 01:51:54,648 --> 01:51:56,468 we'll discuss or respond to whatever you want to send. 1831 01:51:56,468 --> 01:51:59,148 And if you want to submit ideas for us to discuss on the show, 1832 01:51:59,148 --> 01:52:05,888 feel free to sign up on our forum melonmancy.cafe have a good one everybody else peace