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hello and welcome everybody to the melmets podcast my name is dylan and it's victim i'm rick

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so uh coming to you live from the mumble uh but you know i don't have a good fucking intro for

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this fuck you know what i have a great intro coffee's fucking hot if you don't put milk in it

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black coffee ouch dude i just grabbed my mug full fist and i fucking forgot dude

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so what you're saying vic is you got a hold of the a hot bbc you know what black coffee a big

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black coffee i sure did full black coffee that might be the episode title we haven't even begun

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well holy shit so speaking of big black coffee i you wouldn't believe what came across my desk

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the other day i'm telling you the potential it's huge right so the european union has created a

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social networking platform that uses blue skies at protocol for federation purposes

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and do you know what they called it sure it's something funny one letter w

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they called it w to stick it to x it's basically it's not sticking it to x though it's basically

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the highly censored version of x sign up today like hell no who the fuck would sign up for that

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okay so you can't stick it to x elon musk is now officially a trillionaire i know he keeps getting

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richer and it's like they're whatever they're doing is not working yeah he's officially a

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trillionaire and you know what somebody pointed out like i because normally i am fuck y'all and

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musk i i am on the fuck y'all and musk train i have no no qualms about admitting it just for

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different reasons than other people who are like he's a nazi i don't actually care about that i

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care about him being an actual piece of shit to other people in his life but also he has created

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more millionaires than literally

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any other person alive or

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who has ever lived

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like all those stock

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options that fuck invested when people

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you know first joined SpaceX and shit

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bam millionaires some of the

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multi-millionaires on Twitter right

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now anytime someone brings up or

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like you see one of those information

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posts or someone asking Grok or whatever

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where they're like hey what would happen if

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Elon Musk did XYZ

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to end world hunger and then

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you know data comes back where it's like well

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Well, a lot of you people have tried with lots of money and all failed.

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But then some people are just trying to go in on Elon Musk.

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And people are like, well, about that.

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Well, someone, he once said, hey, I would actually donate $6 billion if you really think that would solve it.

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Tell me how it would.

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And they did.

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They laid out how it would.

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But then he was like, oh, and I want the accounting to be public.

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And then they ghosted him.

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Yeah.

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And then people still try to say, oh, yeah, he wouldn't do it,

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even though they did what he asked.

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He's like, we had a follow-up question.

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Like, make the accounting public.

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It's an important follow-up question, too.

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Because they want to waste the money and not actually deliver.

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I don't want to defend Elon Musk.

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I got my own reasons for not liking the guy, too.

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But honestly, that's just a weird one.

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Yeah.

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Or even realistically, the way he's changed X.

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I mean, X is a lot.

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Well, Twitter, X, however.

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it's a hell of a lot better nowadays than it was so i mean dude's doing good even if you hate him

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like i think i'm probably gonna call it twitter forever and that's that's okay that's okay but

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it's just w social really and like you look at it and there's like oh yeah the mayor of london

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the the duke of essex the the yarrow of fucking switzerland i don't know like a bunch of like

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government officials from different areas in the eu posting like i i know i i did make all those up

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I think London does have a mayor.

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So all the, if you want, you know, the latest and greatest hot cross-posted tweets from EU officials, there's WSocial, which allegedly uses the AT protocol, which allegedly federates with Blue Sky.

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But I don't think it actually works.

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And you can't actually, send us a boostagram if I'm fucking wrong.

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But, like, I know it's a protocol.

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I know it's supposed to be federated.

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It's supposed to work.

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But as it stands, people on Blue Sky cannot see the posts from WSocial.

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So it's like not really actually federated.

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And that's because they stopped investing in the federation technology.

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Like it was supposed to be a perfect world.

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Like there's an alternate timeline out there where Twitter still owned by Jack and he never

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lost control of it because he lost control of it before he sold it.

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Right.

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But like, let's say that that middle step didn't take place either.

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AT protocol, maybe they would have called it something else, would be the protocol that

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They would have made themselves a client of that standard.

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and then they could have kept their strict moderation right um but then there's nothing

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stopping us from going and creating uh mail and mancy.social and just like not letting anyone sign

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up and posting the hottest takes uh we ever wanted uh and people on twitter would be able to follow us

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and retweet us all the same like that would have been a really cool reality to live in uh that's in

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your area and that's kind of how nostr and the fediverse work but the fediverse and nostr and

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blue sky are all three totally different protocols that have pros and cons well for not i i argue

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that for nostr it's all pros and there almost no cons but uh all of the people i want to talk to

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are on activity pub for the fediverse so it's like i just can't have both it's really unfair

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at least uh with elon running twitter all the riffraff are on here right because like there's

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so many insufferable people like oh my fucking god i saw a tweet earlier from ayaka mods they're

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like hey we got uh we got somebody working on a localization patch uh to undub uh xenoblade 2

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and i'm just like you don't need that it's not required undubbed that's that's where they

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retranslate the original and uh because the subtitles are the english text right so yeah so

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effectively undubbing in the context of actually undubbing it and not just

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whatever not just resubtitling is to basically redo the audio tracks so what you're saying is it's

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not oh was the audio not woke enough that's probably not what they're doing because that's

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really inefficient in the modern day when i say undub like when i think of an undub i think like

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the legend dragoon undub where they just take all the english lines put the japanese back where it

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was and uh subtitle it different like yeah that's what someone is putting together for xenoblade 2

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and that is not fucking necessary the localization is actually fine it's actually above average uh

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i'd say right oh you know what window into into this world uh i'm actually playing with fire

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saying this all out but whatever um uh there's a a cultural thing in the the anime space where uh

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i mean we've talked about it before there are people who just unabashedly are like japanese

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voices are better i hear english and it makes me want to put like fucking throw up i don't know

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they get rather angry about it and we're talking like they don't like cowboy b-pops english stuff

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you know uh they don't like uh they don't fucking watch english shit in english either right like

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like real like they got the japanese dub of king of the hill yeah like real diehards out there

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right that like i'm not talking about people who i guess for the record i'm not talking about people

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who are like i prefer anime and japanese because you know uh a lot of dubs are half-assed it's like

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Yeah, okay, fair.

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But then they'll turn around and like, you know, Cowboy Bebop's still pretty fucking good.

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There's a whole handful of them balking out another one, but you forgot those.

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But these people do exist.

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And they are usually the kind of people that get really, really pissed off, like violently angry,

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go on Twitter and death threat everyone when they see their favorite work get touched by localization.

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Whether it's good or bad.

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Look at what we were talking about.

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There is some fucking hot ass, garbage fucking localizations out there right now.

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And always have, really.

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Hot ass in your area.

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That doesn't mean localization in and of itself is bad.

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It just means we have a lot of really shitty localizers.

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And so when it comes to Xenoblade 2 specifically,

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we actually know someone, funny enough, who shares this opinion.

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Although there is this mild annoyance rather than, you know,

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violent anger, go out and fix it myself type energy.

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But it's because they changed the names of characters.

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So like Dromach, Pyra and Mithra.

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I think there's a couple other like side blades

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that also had their names changed

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and a lot of people were like

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a lot of this crowd and humans were really pissed off

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I'm trying to remember what her fucking name is

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and Hikari was Mithra

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and Dromok had something also wildly different

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he was Byakko

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they did the four demon thing

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from whatever myth that was

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which is I get it

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because Genbu was one of the titans

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and Genbu was one of the four

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creatures. It was like

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Genbu, Byaku, Seryu,

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All four are present in the original script.

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Most of them had their names

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changed. I don't want to say

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that that was something they should

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have done, or that was a good decision.

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Yeah, it is kind of dumb. It's unnecessary,

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especially in the modern. It's really not that big.

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But I also just don't think it's that big of a fucking deal.

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It's like, what we

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Xenoblade 2 was far greater

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than what we lost.

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Like, exceptionally good

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than what we lost.

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It was an exceptional dub.

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Like, it's really good.

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Bro, and it always bothers me too,

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like, well, the original Japanese

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didn't do that,

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so that means they probably

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didn't intend for that to be a thing.

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It's like, yeah,

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but it's really cool if you do.

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This is like reading a book

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and being like, damn,

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or watching it,

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realistically consuming media,

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and thinking, damn,

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It's like, all they did was make it

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so that each of the different regions

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a real world.

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I don't think that that's a bad thing.

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is probably fine too. I'm not even talking shit.

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does not need undoing by any stretch.

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Fuck, if they wanted

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them back their old names,

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I feel like best of both worlds moment right there.

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scorched earth method

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instead of just the obvious

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his hands like xenoblade is not a franchise that needs that treatment like no it really is not

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there are other fish to fry that i would absolutely be on their side on for that but yeah not xenoblade

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i think that's kind of like the i that's the part where that always gets to me too it's like um

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especially around the time the localization conversation was happening yeah i couldn't

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talk to the boys about it in in like a method where i'm like yo i get it these fuckers are

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are literally ruining the works that they touch uh actually recently there was a video game a

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really popular i'm trying to think what the fuck it was called it i this is one of those moments

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where like off the cuff and victim is very hard to parse my brain uh i guess for listeners uh

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they have a video game coming out about a demon lady that you do shots with uh and i believe if

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you get drunk and puke she kills you or some shit it isn't out yet i'm sure that's enough

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context to go find it that company anyways had a game localized localized um by a company that

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actively decided to add like uh there's like some of it like trans people when the game had nothing

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to do with it the game the game you're thinking of victim is called drunken goddess reflux pukey

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goddess hot shot trick yes well not that game although actually people are saying that the same

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localization company is in charge of it So maybe that game also but Oh right right It was a different game but it same vocalizer sorry sorry yeah but regardless it just it like yeah something that

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fucking horrid and it should that should not be like it should not be allowed or tolerated i guess

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there are localizers out there that just straight up hate the japanese in general clearly and then

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that's not all right i want to make it very clear that that's definitely not all right but i also

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just i'm not going to sit back and say that localization is bad just simply because there's

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some bad actors that do it i guess it's kind of more my stance on that all speaking of bad actors

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the co-founder of ubisoft died the other day oh he uh he died in a plane crash oh shit it was a

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claude uh gulimontz uh him and his brother are the founders of ubisoft and at first i was like

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oh man a plane crash that fucking sucks uh he was the pilot he was the pilot of this plane it was a

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one-man personal plane and he just crashed it like um well you lose a little bit of uh sympathy

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when it's like i got kind of his fault and i don't know if i should say it and it's like about

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french people driving no no i was gonna say he uh drove that plane like he operated ubisoft i mean

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yeah like uh my sympathy that might be a little dark though i you know what i want to make it

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clear bro might have like fucked with video games and fucked with my childhood but i didn't mean he

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he deserved to die but either i don't know maybe he did vic you know on that fact alone he didn't

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but i don't know him personally you're right fair it's like it's unfortunate he definitely didn't

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deserve to die but like he flew that plane himself and he's got i fly my own plane money

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like yeah what about all the people you employ like what about your dying company crazy

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fucking blizzard moment well hey he can both enjoy his plane rides to the ground uh and also

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you know ruin your games he can do both my favorite comment under this bro got blocked

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from heaven with a paywall straight to hell oh you know what i was thinking of really

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is uh he's played enough far cry that he thinks that's how planes get to the ground oh my god

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Because, you know, like in an action movie.

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That's just how planes get to the ground in an action movie.

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This is Ubisoft we're talking about.

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I don't think this man's ever played a video game.

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That's a good point.

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Just some soulless executive.

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Well, fine.

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You know what?

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He found out whether or not he's actually soulless.

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I mean, yeah.

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Well, we won't get to know, but he will.

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Yeah, he'll go.

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Hey, just write it down on your notepad.

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And when we eventually, you know, when our time comes,

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we can just ask about it when we get up there.

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be a nice little like cherry on top you know now as expected the only people who are making fun of

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this are you know anonymous twitter users right there's still plenty of people who are genuinely

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sad uh one such person tim sweeney right who had nothing but nice things to say uh but

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didn't you want to tell me something about him i feel like i feel like i feel like that's

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the opposite oh god that's like getting pat on the back by the devil when you walk into hell

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yeah bro um dude okay actually funny enough i did so tim sweeney there are two major tim sweeney's

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uh going on right now one is his perpetual one-sided war with steam where he could solve

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this problem by just making a better platform or rather paying his engineers to make a better

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platform which i've heard that he's finally doing you know what's on deck in after the next year

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shopping not even yeah well like uh first profile personalizations you know all kinds of shit uh

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man i saw it uh earlier today and i just uh i know who to ask i will ask google you watch we're

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gonna find out he was like one of the only guys that fucking made ubisoft a good company yeah so

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you're like the piece of shit i am i'm so sorry yeah if that's true yeah so they've got a 12 month

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development roadmap revealed by epic games watching a brand new client enhancing performance

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whatever the fuck that means and adding long overdue social and community features to directly

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compete with steam's user-driven marketplace so user-driven marketplace apparently they've got

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uh five times boot speeds is what they're calling what does it mean to be a user basically people

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prefer you that's the honest answer of what that means yeah i was gonna say like that's a fucking

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weird ass way to label that

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what the fuck

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yeah yeah yeah

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so full written user reviews everybody

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ho ho ho

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like we want those things

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piracy is a service problem I think Gabe Newell

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said it himself it's like

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I do want to talk about Gabe Newell but I don't want to move

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on too quickly from Tim Sweeney

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don't worry I'll be moving into

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from Epic to not Epic

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to Steam here in a second so

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they're adding the user reviews

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player profiles and avatars

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third parties communities and forums and parties you know that thing that the xbox 360 introduced

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yeah they're introducing that or you know discord discord i say in in in the day

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in age that we live in like having alternatives is always nice like don't get me wrong like i

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ain't you're saying they shouldn't but i also feel like that is like lowest on the priority list

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of things that they need to be doing though they're adding a lot of things right like

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okay, I'm mocking them.

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The reason I'm mocking them is they're treating this like this big reveal

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when the real answer is they should just have done this,

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oh, 12 years ago?

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Yeah.

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It's the same thing that happened 12 years ago.

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There were a lot of people, probably well-meaning,

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who didn't like people punching down on small developer Epic Games Studios

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and saying, hey, you know, Steam has all these features.

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Why can't you?

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And people would say things like, well, you know, phones didn't used to do this.

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Yeah, but if I built a phone to compete with Apple today,

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it would have at least the same features or parity, right?

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Like Android would not have worked if, like Android phones would not have taken off

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if they're like, well, you know, we're starting a new phone line.

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So we're starting at a cordless wireless phone for your home.

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No, that would have been fucking stupid.

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Like they built something that was at near feature parity with the iPhone, if not better.

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I forget when they took over being better.

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I don't think it was out of the box.

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I think Apple had the smartphone game locked down for a good few years.

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Regardless, the point being is they competed on the same playing field.

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And there are other things.

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So let's move into the bit, the bitch made things that Sweeney constantly complains about with Steam.

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So funny.

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This fucking guy.

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Yeah.

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So we got tell me the, you know, the things that he constantly complained about.

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It's like the 30% revenue cut.

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He's tried to go to court over this because Epic Games did win their court case with Apple and Google for their respective storefronts because on their devices, those were the only options.

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And so, you know, honestly, fair news.

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He started a fight he knew he was going to win.

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And, you know, EGS, Epic Games Store, has about a 12% revenue split, I think, on average.

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Because I think theirs is based off of some metric, I forget.

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You know, he complains about price parity.

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and uh you know because what steam says is basically hey if you're selling your game

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on our storefront that's fine you can put on sale or whatever but you shouldn't be selling it at a

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lower price on a different storefront including your own that's just steam's policy you sign the

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when you sign your name on the dotted line you agree to it and you know fair i honestly think

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that's fair i would agree i think that's fair as well um if it's the same product right like if

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you're saying hey i'm well i'm selling this special bundle like i don't know maybe somebody

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calls it a uh pre-order if you're selling that steam's probably not going to give a shit like

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if you're selling it one might say 170 we'll get back to that uh pre-order bundle because i i've

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got somebody else to bitch about too so basically it sweeney is bitching that it it prevents uh

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alternative marketplaces

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like Epic Games stores

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from passing on savings to the customers

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through lower prices.

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Because, you know, he would totally do that.

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See, this is the issue.

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The revenue split isn't anything.

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It genuinely isn't. Yeah, I'm sure developers

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care, but they're banking on

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selling on Steam, getting more

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bodies through the door.

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More units sold, therefore more money

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through volume. More reviews posted,

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more...

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Well, yeah, you can post reviews still.

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Like, that was their 12-month roadmap.

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God knows if that's going to be next month or next July.

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So, you know, anyways.

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And he's actively voiced a lot of support for massive legal actions against Valve.

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You know, claiming, like, Valve shuts out pricing competition.

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Which, again, technically true, but you're agreeing to use, like...

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Okay.

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If I say, hey, in the 90s, if I say, hey, Walmart, will you sell my video game?

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will you sell my Xbox and Halo?

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And they say, okay, sure.

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Here's the price we're going to put it at.

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Walmart gets to decide what price they're selling it at.

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I sell it to Walmart.

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Walmart sells it to the consumer.

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That is exactly what Steam does.

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It's absolutely ridiculous

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to think that they can't say,

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hey, if you want to sell it here,

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because Walmart could also say,

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hey, if you're selling it to us

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and we see you selling it at target for half their price we're gonna stop selling your product

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because that's not like we need to be able to compete with them and the yeah it it's just stupid

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you're effectively running like because like consumers aren't gonna look at it and think oh

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that's the company that produces the product setting that price they're gonna think that's

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the company and then in this context they're gonna be like oh steam is charging me more i mean i mean

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actually you know what there is a really good example of this that you guys may not be aware of

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uh there are other storefronts that they're like fanatical and a couple handful of others

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that people will go to through things like uh other deals or whatever it is.com yeah and and

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that is one of the things that they do although this is fanatical doing it this well specifically

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but it does drive a lot more traffic to those after,

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I guess you could call them aftermarket,

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but alternative sites anyways.

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So if you were doing it for the company,

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now you're picking a favorite.

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And that's just weird.

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Well, there are all kinds of reasons why,

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like I actually agree with Steam's policy

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because it shouldn't matter which storefront you get.

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Well, it protects Steam's ass.

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It protects Steam.

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Also, it means that you get to pick the storefront

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that is right for you,

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not just because they bought your business.

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Right. Yeah.

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Which, ironically,

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is something EGS

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has constantly been trying to do. Like, they

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claim that's bullying and shit, but like,

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let's be real, Epic signed exclusivity

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contracts with numerous

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PC games to say, hey,

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and gamers unanimously decided well not unanimously overwhelmingly decided that actually this isn what we want So those games aren actually releasing for a full calendar year after they released

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Yeah.

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And that shit stopped because it wasn't worth it.

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Because they were paying the developers or publishers probably who trickled the money down to the developer to have this exclusivity.

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like no everything tim sweeney does or claims other people do he does in his own way maybe

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two steps removed or something but he does it himself right like again um oh the ai disclosure

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policy fucking everybody's using ai like this full stop unless somebody's like hand crafting

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their game which is not anything you're buying on fucking steam epic games or any of the other

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stores well maybe at like the indie tier but yeah pretty much yeah like there's going to be

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a involved i'm sorry that's just the world we live in now if i'm breaking this news to anybody

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fucking deal with it dude like i know and you know it's funny because like um this this tim

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guy is so mad about the ai disclosures and it's his own engine unreal engine his company makes that

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that is like kind of driving yeah i is tooling what i don't get it what i don't get about the

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way like i guess like the way that he handles it because this isn't the first time this is like the

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second or third time right um that he's bitched about this online it's like it's it's clear where

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it stems from right it's like he's mad that people are going to be mad at him

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well uh or they're going to hold him accountable or whatever and it's like regardless if you like

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or hate uh you know support or use or otherwise uh ai i think it's fair to have to disclose it

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or at least disclose how you used it right it's like yes and and and like oh you know you know

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the everyone's gonna go oh well then i'll get hate it's like well then i mean yeah but you know if

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you build a game that's shit you're gonna get hate if you build a game where you can kill women you're

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going to get hate if you build a game where there's no men you're going to get hate like

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you literally i hate to break it to developers man but there's a lot of fucking pitfalls for

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people are going to fucking hate you well you should still be a decent human being to your

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customers is is the moral of the story and if you're using ai well guess what there are people

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out there that don't or that might not purchase based on that um or actually realistically go one

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way or the other or depending on the different degrees of your usage of it people should be

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allowed to know that that's just they should be that's just normal like if you put boobies

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if if if the if the women in your game can flash their titties at me you have to disclose that

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because that's going to determine whether or not i buy a game or not um you know reset depending

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upon the quality of the game in the boobs exactly so it's like i just i don't know i look at it that

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way and i i fucking find tim to be so i i even messaged uh him on twitter i'm sorry back when

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When he first made the fucking post, I was like, bro, are you advocating?

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I get that honestly at the end of the day.

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I don't think that's exactly what he was doing.

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But it is how it read at the time.

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So I was like, you should probably clarify this.

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It sounds like your quote-unquote pro-consumer platform is rather fucking anti-consumer

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if you're talking about not having to disclose what was used, whatever, right?

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And it's just like, bro, I don't like Tim.

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I think Tim is a fucking loser

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in a lot of ways.

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Actually, I have my final thing.

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His personal attacks on

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Valve

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leadership, definitely

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including Gabe Newell.

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I don't think he's ever said Gabe specifically,

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but yeah, we know.

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He called out Gabe's

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luxury fleet of yachts.

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Oh, did he?

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Doesn't he own one yacht?

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Come on.

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I think he's got multiple yachts,

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but I think he only has one mega yacht.

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Okay.

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I know.

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The funny thing is that despite Gabe Newell's immense wealth

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and mega yachts,

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people still just cannot choose Tim Sweeney over Gabe Newell.

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Tim Sweeney is that unlikable.

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Tim's filthy fucking rich too.

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I mean, bro, pot meat kettle moment.

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Okay, so Gabe employs a pretty small team.

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Valve is actually pretty small, right?

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I think they're a couple hundred, but yeah, in the grand scheme of things, for what you expect, they are pretty small.

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They make a shit ton of money, though.

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Individually, people at Valve make a shit ton of money.

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Yeah, I was going to say, it's not just Gabe that made Bank of Valve.

462
00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:20,552
Plenty of the employees have, too.

463
00:28:20,792 --> 00:28:24,732
Yeah, but yeah, he made some kind of snip at

464
00:28:24,732 --> 00:28:30,472
it was back in the Steam Deck higher pricing getting cranked up.

465
00:28:30,472 --> 00:28:37,612
and when he whinged about that the irony is fortnite still makes a shit ton of money

466
00:28:37,612 --> 00:28:45,392
they had massive fucking layoffs and they increased the cost of vbucks that and i believe they

467
00:28:45,392 --> 00:28:51,612
were talking about offloading a lot of like the event development stuff to some like ai thing that

468
00:28:51,612 --> 00:28:55,532
they developed oh probably which you know it's fair game like i ain't out here talking shit but

469
00:28:55,532 --> 00:29:04,352
At the same time, it's like, that's, that kind of invokes that they are, I guess, I guess it makes them look like they're on hard times.

470
00:29:04,492 --> 00:29:06,652
Like, it all compounds, I guess, is where I'm going with that.

471
00:29:06,972 --> 00:29:09,812
Yeah, well, and so, you know, we got all that stuff.

472
00:29:09,952 --> 00:29:13,512
So, anyways, yeah, he's a, he's a massive pile of shit, basically.

473
00:29:13,512 --> 00:29:20,452
I just wanted to, you know, talk about it a little bit, because he keeps fucking showing up every chance he gets.

474
00:29:21,132 --> 00:29:23,372
I know, and it's unwelcome every time.

475
00:29:23,372 --> 00:29:25,772
I'm down to talk shit about Tim Sweeney

476
00:29:25,772 --> 00:29:29,172
I was an Epic Games

477
00:29:29,172 --> 00:29:30,932
lover back in the day bro

478
00:29:30,932 --> 00:29:33,852
I probably loved Epic Games about as much

479
00:29:33,852 --> 00:29:35,952
as I loved Bungie back in the day

480
00:29:35,952 --> 00:29:37,852
oh well you mentioned Bungie

481
00:29:37,852 --> 00:29:39,912
they're actually topical for me too

482
00:29:39,912 --> 00:29:41,472
do you want me to

483
00:29:41,472 --> 00:29:43,752
go on or do we want to stop and talk

484
00:29:43,752 --> 00:29:45,272
good news about game

485
00:29:45,272 --> 00:29:47,732
no I have beef

486
00:29:47,732 --> 00:29:48,552
with a different Tim

487
00:29:48,552 --> 00:29:49,932
oh different Tim

488
00:29:49,932 --> 00:29:51,832
okay

489
00:29:51,832 --> 00:30:02,792
wrong one oh my god wrong one i got beef with a different tim okay so tim sweeney okay sure yeah

490
00:30:02,792 --> 00:30:09,972
he'll have his day in court right i want to talk about tim shaffer actually so yeah it's um

491
00:30:09,972 --> 00:30:14,892
it's a bit of a larger subject but basically it's been a while since we recorded the podcast

492
00:30:14,892 --> 00:30:20,232
obviously two weeks ago we should have recorded but the stars didn't align uh and that was right

493
00:30:20,232 --> 00:30:26,192
after summer games fest kind of wrapped up right so we have the entirety of summer games fest to

494
00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:29,592
talk about maybe right we don't have to actually go through it i'm sure everyone who cares about

495
00:30:29,592 --> 00:30:35,052
summer games fest watched it already right but uh for you know those of you out there in the

496
00:30:35,052 --> 00:30:40,232
audience listening to this podcast like a time capsule uh hello from the year 2035 or wherever

497
00:30:40,232 --> 00:30:46,112
you are uh summer games fest is this thing we used to do uh when e3 stopped being a thing and

498
00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:51,132
it sort of replaced it as the summertime uh new video game showcase right and all the other

499
00:30:51,132 --> 00:30:55,632
companies like nintendo microsoft sony they do their own showcases similar to how they used to

500
00:30:55,632 --> 00:31:01,772
have e3 presentations during that week right and summer games fest is the the big one that

501
00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:07,872
jeff keely does that's neutral so right after summer games fest wraps up you know the hype is

502
00:31:07,872 --> 00:31:14,252
in the air you know everybody except sony did really well right but like immediately after that

503
00:31:14,252 --> 00:31:19,412
right the new xbox ceo asha sharma goes on a couple of interviews talking about the cost of

504
00:31:19,412 --> 00:31:24,872
hardware components and all this and that and it's like oh that's concerning like i forget what she

505
00:31:24,872 --> 00:31:29,592
actually said but it was like she was talking about how component costs have like either doubled

506
00:31:29,592 --> 00:31:34,952
or tripled yeah who could have foreseen that i know right and they're the company is expecting

507
00:31:34,952 --> 00:31:43,472
them to quadruple by christmas right that's crazy that is crazy so it's like oh that's odd

508
00:31:43,472 --> 00:31:50,672
um and then right after that um there was all these uh i don't even remember it was like there

509
00:31:50,672 --> 00:31:56,172
was this open letter it was like uh the next 100 days at xbox talking about a corporate reset a

510
00:31:56,172 --> 00:32:04,152
restructuring right uh and then out of nowhere the rumor mill right basically everyone is expecting

511
00:32:04,152 --> 00:32:12,112
there to be mass layouts at xbox and their internal game studios right and um insider leaks uh talking

512
00:32:12,112 --> 00:32:17,752
about the drama and who's been told what hit the internet like wildfire and we know that compulsion

513
00:32:17,752 --> 00:32:22,352
games that's the one that made south of midnight double fine which is the studio run by tim shaffer

514
00:32:22,352 --> 00:32:27,952
and uh one other one i think it was arcane i forget who the third one was uh they are all at

515
00:32:27,952 --> 00:32:33,172
risk of shutting down and oh my goodness i could not be more excited for the death of double fine

516
00:32:33,172 --> 00:32:39,612
that tim shaffer guy is an asshole right so double fine that's the studio that makes uh

517
00:32:39,612 --> 00:32:46,212
psychonauts right they recently made a game called kiln which is like a pottery like game where you

518
00:32:46,212 --> 00:32:52,012
try to beat each other up i guess like it's all artsy fartsy right but like i only know about it

519
00:32:52,012 --> 00:32:56,092
because xbox keeps shoving ads on it on their little home page they obviously want games past

520
00:32:56,092 --> 00:33:01,432
subscribers to play it right but um if you look at the steam chart for kiln that's kiln right you'll

521
00:33:01,432 --> 00:33:07,692
see that uh it flopped hard really hard not surprised it doesn't sound very good now um my

522
00:33:07,692 --> 00:33:09,712
beef with Tim Schafer goes way back to the

523
00:33:09,712 --> 00:33:11,132
Gamer Wars of, you know,

524
00:33:11,652 --> 00:33:13,692
2014. Tim Schafer was

525
00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:15,812
that guy that gone on stage,

526
00:33:16,072 --> 00:33:17,772
put a sock on his hand, and started

527
00:33:17,772 --> 00:33:19,632
doing like a little puppet show. Like, oh,

528
00:33:19,692 --> 00:33:21,592
I hate women, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Literal sock

529
00:33:21,592 --> 00:33:23,532
puppeting on a stage at GamesCon.

530
00:33:24,272 --> 00:33:25,712
Right? Like, he

531
00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,832
sided with the journalists against the gamers in 2014.

532
00:33:28,132 --> 00:33:29,512
Of course he did.

533
00:33:30,452 --> 00:33:31,632
He's such an asshole,

534
00:33:31,832 --> 00:33:33,672
too. Like, he's one of those guys that it's very

535
00:33:33,672 --> 00:33:35,752
clear that he's doing it because he has

536
00:33:35,752 --> 00:33:37,272
something to prove.

537
00:33:37,692 --> 00:33:43,292
i know and his games are shit like nobody like i mean brutal legend was okay i guess right but

538
00:33:43,292 --> 00:33:50,012
like well everybody loves psychonauts okay well psychonauts was wildly popular i gotta i gotta

539
00:33:50,012 --> 00:33:57,572
say psychonauts uh you were where to start is so psychonauts is a game that kind of touches a

540
00:33:57,572 --> 00:34:04,452
i guess like a subset of gamers that already already pre-exist so it kind of piggybacked

541
00:34:04,452 --> 00:34:05,932
off of that. And you're right.

542
00:34:06,672 --> 00:34:08,452
One, at least, was really successful.

543
00:34:08,632 --> 00:34:09,832
I don't know if two was.

544
00:34:10,152 --> 00:34:12,492
I think two was mildly successful. I don't think it was a flop

545
00:34:12,492 --> 00:34:14,352
by any means. But I don't think it was silly

546
00:34:14,352 --> 00:34:16,892
or crazy over the top or anything. But I believe

547
00:34:16,892 --> 00:34:18,672
those

548
00:34:18,672 --> 00:34:20,592
two games and then Brutal Legend, which was

549
00:34:20,592 --> 00:34:22,012
carried by Jack Black, mind you.

550
00:34:23,172 --> 00:34:24,632
I mean, it's kind of hard to have Jack Black

551
00:34:24,632 --> 00:34:26,632
and something in it be all ass.

552
00:34:26,912 --> 00:34:28,592
But everything else they've made

553
00:34:28,592 --> 00:34:30,432
sucks. Well, something about

554
00:34:30,432 --> 00:34:32,572
Brutal Legend is that I don't

555
00:34:32,572 --> 00:34:34,052
think commercially it did very well.

556
00:34:34,452 --> 00:34:34,992
No, it did not.

557
00:34:36,112 --> 00:34:38,012
People who played it liked it, but it didn't do,

558
00:34:38,112 --> 00:34:39,492
I don't think it did commercially very well either.

559
00:34:40,012 --> 00:34:43,612
I remember Tim Schafer also had some kind of crowdfunding platform.

560
00:34:43,752 --> 00:34:46,612
I forget what it was called, but like he,

561
00:34:46,692 --> 00:34:52,192
he started shitting on like, uh, like Kickstarter and Indiegogo was the other

562
00:34:52,192 --> 00:34:54,612
one. Right. And saying like, you know, his was better.

563
00:34:54,692 --> 00:34:57,712
His is for games, gamers and people making games.

564
00:34:57,712 --> 00:35:00,812
And the draw was that if you fundraise on that platform,

565
00:35:00,912 --> 00:35:03,672
I think he like helps you or something. Um, like the,

566
00:35:03,672 --> 00:35:07,652
the company behind it not like a donation matching thing but like he was really trying to

567
00:35:07,652 --> 00:35:13,432
like play it up and sell it right but of course it's only accessible to people who are ideologically

568
00:35:13,432 --> 00:35:29,668
aligned with him right uh which you know in 2014 was a bad idea so um i uh look forward to his resignation um his studio is free to go independent i sure they be oh that right ninja theory was the

569
00:35:29,668 --> 00:35:37,608
other one not arcane um and now that's the one that not to be confused with ninja team i know i

570
00:35:37,608 --> 00:35:42,288
i learned that the hard way i was so worried i thought i thought team ninja was about to get the

571
00:35:42,288 --> 00:35:46,488
axe no it was ninja theory those are two different fucking companies now if i'm remembering correctly

572
00:35:46,488 --> 00:35:53,028
these have at the time these were not confirmed to be uh these were confirmed to be on the chopping

573
00:35:53,028 --> 00:36:00,468
block but not necessarily uh getting that that's another thing i wanted to point out um so jason

574
00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:08,108
scryer that one guy right yeah we all know him so he uh did make a video and a really long tweet

575
00:36:08,108 --> 00:36:14,568
about this where um he he's the one with all the inside scoops right so everything we heard so far

576
00:36:14,568 --> 00:36:18,888
is just people who work at these companies speculating about their immediate demise right

577
00:36:18,888 --> 00:36:24,228
whereas jason scryer is like interviewing people on the inside like he always does right um and

578
00:36:24,228 --> 00:36:29,988
what he says is uh none of these studios have actually been let go yet right um they're just

579
00:36:29,988 --> 00:36:35,288
in talks and what actually becomes of these studios is kind of up in the air they might just

580
00:36:35,288 --> 00:36:39,448
lay off a bunch of people they might just cancel a bunch of games they might merge some studios

581
00:36:39,448 --> 00:36:45,408
together right and move people around because they all work for microsoft right right um technically

582
00:36:45,408 --> 00:36:52,368
it's one gigantic company with a lot of stuff going on inside so sure um like ninja theory like

583
00:36:52,368 --> 00:36:57,428
they might sell it or let it go independent they might even give them their intellectual property

584
00:36:57,428 --> 00:37:01,568
probably not this is microsoft we're talking about here right but no they might sell them

585
00:37:01,568 --> 00:37:07,868
their intellectual property for a good price fair microsoft for as bad as they can be in other areas

586
00:37:07,868 --> 00:37:14,168
i don't think they have a track record of being like ea about it yeah whereas ea will literally

587
00:37:14,168 --> 00:37:21,128
hold on to and and tank your fucking shit and then whenever the project whether it's fans or

588
00:37:21,128 --> 00:37:26,128
or otherwise or like the original dev teams uh when they come back for their rights they'll be

589
00:37:26,128 --> 00:37:32,148
like okay but you're gonna pay us like you're a fucking a company as big as us uh and and like

590
00:37:32,148 --> 00:37:40,028
your game has as much fucking notoriety as call of duty right of fun and i know this for a fact

591
00:37:40,028 --> 00:37:47,248
because i actually uh was partly involved in the community back in the day when uh dongate uh for

592
00:37:47,248 --> 00:37:55,208
any of our viewers uh any of the like potentially two two other dongate players um that still are

593
00:37:55,208 --> 00:38:02,128
life uh ea basically is like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah go for it you raise money and we'll we'll

594
00:38:02,128 --> 00:38:06,828
talk once yeah your your credit funding is done and then when they're like okay we'd like to buy

595
00:38:06,828 --> 00:38:10,688
the rights now and they were like okay it's gonna cost you like a million dollars of fun

596
00:38:10,688 --> 00:38:17,928
what the fuck dude it's not worth a million dollars shut the fuck up ain't no way so it's

597
00:38:17,928 --> 00:38:22,748
like i get it i don't know how good or bad microsoft's gonna be about that kind of a sale

598
00:38:22,748 --> 00:38:27,128
right for these studios to be fair they may not even offer it it would probably be the more likely

599
00:38:27,128 --> 00:38:34,568
case but yeah they didn't let bungie have halo um well yeah but hey in fairness sold them halo

600
00:38:34,568 --> 00:38:40,768
i i actually think that there was talks about it being more of like a hey we'll let you keep

601
00:38:40,768 --> 00:38:47,008
halo but you gotta let us go do our own thing and microsoft was like that that didn't turn out so

602
00:38:47,008 --> 00:38:53,868
well yeah no wait it did at the time at the time it was okay but i'll have you know like i i have

603
00:38:53,868 --> 00:39:01,748
faith in xbox right now i i still i i i've heard i've listened to a lot of audio right of both

604
00:39:01,748 --> 00:39:07,288
asha sharma and matt booty he's the second command guy right on a couple of podcasts now right they're

605
00:39:07,288 --> 00:39:11,048
surprisingly transparent about the process and honestly letting a lot of these studios go is

606
00:39:11,048 --> 00:39:14,908
what i would have done in their position right they should have done it years ago but yeah they

607
00:39:14,908 --> 00:39:19,408
should have yeah and uh sony's doing it now too obviously we're gonna get to that in a minute

608
00:39:19,408 --> 00:39:26,608
right but it's like what i think is weird is what i'm seeing on like twitter and other places is

609
00:39:26,608 --> 00:39:35,628
the sentiment it's very anti xbox like i remember when i was a young warthog right um i remember

610
00:39:35,628 --> 00:39:44,048
uh sony was the weird choice right back in the the ps2 xbox and ps3 xbox 360 era right

611
00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:51,688
um it's like i was sort of an outcast for preferring playstation over xbox a lot of people

612
00:39:51,688 --> 00:39:56,668
that i was meeting at school like they all had xboxes and they were kind of late to the video

613
00:39:56,668 --> 00:40:01,288
game trend they didn't play video games and the generations prior right or if they did it was like

614
00:40:01,288 --> 00:40:07,408
a nintendo or something right no attachment yeah and it's like that the original like xbox crowd

615
00:40:07,408 --> 00:40:13,528
was like very loud and very very large right um but now i'm seeing quite the opposite where

616
00:40:13,528 --> 00:40:19,828
there's a lot of people and sony is effectively an american company now so i i get that right

617
00:40:19,828 --> 00:40:26,468
um but like sony is now the norm ps5 is like the normal thing you buy if it's not a nintendo

618
00:40:26,468 --> 00:40:32,828
and xbox is kind of in the background now and the journalists are following along because i remember

619
00:40:32,828 --> 00:40:38,008
you know and journalists still kind of do this where they shit on foreign games that aren't

620
00:40:38,008 --> 00:40:43,908
fucking zelda right um and it's just it's harder for those games to get a fair shake by the games

621
00:40:43,908 --> 00:40:48,908
media because they want it to be a certain way and sony has adapted sony now makes first party

622
00:40:48,908 --> 00:40:53,708
games like the last of us part two that are very pleasing to journalists but are shit games right

623
00:40:53,708 --> 00:41:00,748
and xbox does that thing too don't get me wrong right but like they are so hostile to xbox and

624
00:41:00,748 --> 00:41:05,208
and all these bloggers are so quick to write articles talking about how oh my god xbox is

625
00:41:05,208 --> 00:41:08,128
going down the drain look at all these awful moves they're making i can't believe they laid

626
00:41:08,128 --> 00:41:11,348
all these people off and it's like what did you expect they would just pay them forever to do

627
00:41:11,348 --> 00:41:17,028
nothing it's it's it's ridiculous to think that a studio like double fine should stay alive after

628
00:41:17,028 --> 00:41:22,628
releasing back-to-back flops right they're a first-party studio um it's like and some people

629
00:41:22,628 --> 00:41:27,668
are like oh i've heard the arguments online where people are like well they they bought those studios

630
00:41:27,668 --> 00:41:31,868
so they could have the financial security to go experiment to make weird shit and it's like

631
00:41:31,868 --> 00:41:38,048
yeah but they've still got to make weird shit that sells yeah like uh they gave them a couple

632
00:41:38,048 --> 00:41:43,548
tries and they didn't land it right obviously they were they obviously made kiln because the

633
00:41:43,548 --> 00:41:49,648
lighthouse game wasn't gonna sell right and kiln is not xbox platoon as much as they want it to be

634
00:41:49,648 --> 00:41:56,628
it isn't right so down the drain they go and i i can't i i can't not be happy about it it's like

635
00:41:56,628 --> 00:42:01,568
what i always wanted was for you know these big studios to fracture and for many many

636
00:42:01,568 --> 00:42:05,908
studios to pop up and now that we have like efficient ai tooling like this stuff is going to

637
00:42:05,908 --> 00:42:13,328
be you know better than ever and like games that don't have ai art but have ai everything else

638
00:42:13,328 --> 00:42:18,628
involved in the creation and development right are going to make games cheaper to make and quicker to

639
00:42:18,628 --> 00:42:23,968
make with fewer people so we could see lots and lots of studios pop up making lots and lots of

640
00:42:23,968 --> 00:42:27,708
games and if they're all indie games maybe they won't all be fucking 80 dollars while their studios

641
00:42:27,708 --> 00:42:34,288
can sustainably stay open that would be fucking awesome but yeah as a minor aside i i listened to

642
00:42:34,288 --> 00:42:38,568
that podcast right i i think i forget which one it was it was like bloomberg or some shit right i was

643
00:42:38,568 --> 00:42:43,948
like i only clicked on it because it was literally the xbox ceo in the video right talking to the

644
00:42:43,948 --> 00:42:48,248
the interviewer and when i heard oh yeah the harvard cost of components is going up i was like

645
00:42:48,248 --> 00:43:00,788
ah okay so on monday on monday i went to my local grocery store um and they had an xbox series x

646
00:43:00,788 --> 00:43:06,888
one terabyte model with a disk drive for six hundred dollars i bought it i was just saying

647
00:43:06,888 --> 00:43:12,328
for six hundred dollars it became yours yeah and they just raised the price uh starting august 1st

648
00:43:12,328 --> 00:43:17,128
that same console i bought is going to be eight hundred dollars and they're discontinuing the two

649
00:43:17,128 --> 00:43:23,348
terabyte model and uh the the version without a disk drive is also having its price increased and

650
00:43:23,348 --> 00:43:29,568
the series s which honestly they should discontinue that motherfucker um the series s is going to be

651
00:43:29,568 --> 00:43:35,868
500 bucks which is just 50 bucks shy of a switch 2 it's no longer the the economical option

652
00:43:35,868 --> 00:43:44,528
you know because when the difference is 50 bucks get a switch 2 honestly right like um

653
00:43:44,528 --> 00:43:52,408
i i put a lot of thought into it and the reason i i bought that series x right is because right now

654
00:43:52,408 --> 00:43:59,028
the reality is that buying digital games for my children is kind of a nightmare because as i've

655
00:43:59,028 --> 00:44:03,748
pointed out before on this very show right like one of them has a switch too they both have switch

656
00:44:03,748 --> 00:44:07,748
ones so i got the physical cartridges i thought physical was going to be the future for nintendo

657
00:44:07,748 --> 00:44:13,028
and they let me down but my youngest really wanted a switch too so he got one right now

658
00:44:13,028 --> 00:44:20,608
my oldest has a rog xbox ally that thing's pretty awesome uh i already had the series s right um but

659
00:44:20,608 --> 00:44:26,108
i also had a ps5 and i'm sick of the ps5 i don't use it i wasn't using it it was a youtube machine

660
00:44:26,108 --> 00:44:31,628
and a dvd player like after i beat i think it was stellar blade i don't think a single game has come

661
00:44:31,628 --> 00:44:36,048
out that is even worth playing on that thing that i couldn't play on my pc or my steam deck right

662
00:44:36,048 --> 00:44:41,968
so problem is is that if i buy a digital game on one um it's it's stuck on there and it's like

663
00:44:41,968 --> 00:44:47,648
Because I have like a different fucking console in every room, it's like kind of difficult to navigate, right?

664
00:44:48,128 --> 00:44:52,248
Now, replacing the PS5 with an Xbox doesn't totally fix the problem.

665
00:44:52,668 --> 00:44:54,008
And I didn't even get rid of the PS5.

666
00:44:54,088 --> 00:44:59,148
I thought about selling it to make up for the cost, but I had the cash on hand, turns out.

667
00:44:59,888 --> 00:45:02,848
I get paid every two weeks, so it's one of those months where I just have extra.

668
00:45:03,128 --> 00:45:05,768
Kind of like when I went to see you last year, Vic, when we went to TennoCon.

669
00:45:05,948 --> 00:45:06,868
Same idea, right?

670
00:45:07,448 --> 00:45:10,788
It's just like I have an extra paycheck that I don't normally have, right?

671
00:45:11,028 --> 00:45:11,928
So budgeting was easy.

672
00:45:11,968 --> 00:45:17,328
So I moved the PS5 into my office, which is right here on my right, connected to a projector.

673
00:45:17,688 --> 00:45:20,148
It will now be the DVD player.

674
00:45:20,248 --> 00:45:22,188
It was always meant to be cool, right?

675
00:45:23,148 --> 00:45:24,808
The Series X is in my living room.

676
00:45:25,368 --> 00:45:27,028
The Series S is in my youngest son's room.

677
00:45:27,028 --> 00:45:29,388
And my oldest son has a ROG ally.

678
00:45:29,648 --> 00:45:35,388
So, sure, I still need to buy them each individual digital copies of games, like Minecraft, for example.

679
00:45:35,548 --> 00:45:40,048
But now, like, depending on no matter which screen they're on, all their shit transfers over, right?

680
00:45:40,048 --> 00:45:42,688
This was a problem with Goat Simulator specifically, right?

681
00:45:42,948 --> 00:45:46,248
Because it's like I had the DLC for Goat Simulator 3,

682
00:45:46,568 --> 00:45:49,268
and he could play it in the living room because that's where the Xbox was.

683
00:45:49,448 --> 00:45:52,268
And then when he goes into his room, well, thanks to PlayStation Plus,

684
00:45:52,328 --> 00:45:56,568
which I've unsubscribed from, the base version of Goat Simulator 3 is there.

685
00:45:56,668 --> 00:45:58,628
And if he wanted to play it, I had to buy the DLC.

686
00:45:59,568 --> 00:46:01,928
But if I would have done that, he wouldn't have any of his progress.

687
00:46:02,088 --> 00:46:04,928
He would have to start over, and that would just upset him, right?

688
00:46:05,048 --> 00:46:05,228
Yeah.

689
00:46:05,688 --> 00:46:07,968
Well, now I still have to buy him an additional copy

690
00:46:07,968 --> 00:46:10,068
or get him a Game Pass

691
00:46:10,068 --> 00:46:12,388
I'm waiting for a family plan

692
00:46:12,388 --> 00:46:13,928
they need to come up with a family plan solution

693
00:46:13,928 --> 00:46:16,328
because being a parent still sucks on Xbox

694
00:46:16,328 --> 00:46:17,568
it's not that much better

695
00:46:17,568 --> 00:46:18,908
but like

696
00:46:18,908 --> 00:46:22,608
I'm surprised they don't offer those

697
00:46:22,608 --> 00:46:24,188
me too honestly

698
00:46:24,188 --> 00:46:25,628
I thought they would figure that out by now

699
00:46:25,628 --> 00:46:28,688
only Steam is allowed to offer family plans for anything

700
00:46:28,688 --> 00:46:30,808
and it's funny because Steam's family plan is free

701
00:46:30,808 --> 00:46:32,408
I know right

702
00:46:32,408 --> 00:46:35,108
it's like hey if there's any Xbox executives

703
00:46:35,108 --> 00:46:36,848
listening like all you gotta do

704
00:46:36,848 --> 00:46:40,848
is when a parent has a Game Pass subscription,

705
00:46:40,848 --> 00:46:43,848
let the dependents connected to the account

706
00:46:43,848 --> 00:46:46,848
play the Game Pass games, but not at the same time.

707
00:46:46,848 --> 00:46:48,848
Right? Just like Steam Family.

708
00:46:48,848 --> 00:46:51,848
If they want to go a step further, if there's a worry,

709
00:46:51,848 --> 00:46:53,848
you know, where they're like, oh, well, we don't want you just,

710
00:46:53,848 --> 00:46:57,848
you and your five buddies pretending to be, you know, family.

711
00:46:58,848 --> 00:47:02,848
You could always just make sure that it has to be on the same network.

712
00:47:02,848 --> 00:47:03,848
Yeah.

713
00:47:03,848 --> 00:47:06,108
Like that, like, there are a lot of things.

714
00:47:06,144 --> 00:47:10,304
already going to be connected to the internet more than likely that today is the modern day

715
00:47:10,304 --> 00:47:15,104
might as well i don't think this is going to be a priority for them though because like

716
00:47:15,104 --> 00:47:20,904
another thing that the ceo said is that gaming is becoming unaffordable so they probably expect

717
00:47:20,904 --> 00:47:26,084
most households have but one console and it's probably in a centralized living room situation

718
00:47:26,084 --> 00:47:31,644
that's probably the norm they're not wrong but at the same time they i guess it's one of those

719
00:47:31,644 --> 00:47:33,564
they have a much larger user base

720
00:47:33,564 --> 00:47:34,904
than they would

721
00:47:34,904 --> 00:47:37,664
assume to have I guess if they were to

722
00:47:37,664 --> 00:47:39,424
ignore that fact I guess

723
00:47:39,424 --> 00:47:41,644
because you're not the only one who has this issue

724
00:47:41,644 --> 00:47:43,064
back when I was streaming

725
00:47:43,064 --> 00:47:46,104
I had a viewer who had this issue

726
00:47:46,104 --> 00:47:48,024
and actually went through the same hurdles

727
00:47:48,024 --> 00:47:49,864
of basically saying fuck Sony

728
00:47:49,864 --> 00:47:50,664
I'll get an Xbox

729
00:47:50,664 --> 00:47:53,864
but it was more over like

730
00:47:53,864 --> 00:47:55,644
parental controls at the time

731
00:47:55,644 --> 00:47:56,144
but still

732
00:47:56,144 --> 00:47:59,544
Sony's parental controls suck ass

733
00:47:59,544 --> 00:48:01,104
actually like I hate them

734
00:48:01,644 --> 00:48:05,064
they're they're better now than they were probably when your friend was complaining however

735
00:48:05,064 --> 00:48:11,764
yeah they're not great the xbox one is way better but i think um nintendo's is the closest to perfect

736
00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:17,524
uh there are some things the xbox parental controls do better than nintendo but nintendo is like so

737
00:48:17,524 --> 00:48:23,264
close to perfect it's like a feature or two away like ah i wish they could just combine them or

738
00:48:23,264 --> 00:48:28,244
something that would be awesome but no um so i guess in short right like i still have to buy

739
00:48:28,244 --> 00:48:32,284
my kids individual copies of games if they're going to play like online together or some shit

740
00:48:32,284 --> 00:48:38,244
right but like it's it's definitely not set up for having more than one console right whether one is

741
00:48:38,244 --> 00:48:44,004
a rog or the other is a fucking series s right but as long as it works in the living room it's fine

742
00:48:44,004 --> 00:48:49,464
they can just share i'm fine with that right it's definitely better than um having different totally

743
00:48:49,464 --> 00:48:55,344
different platforms in different rooms like that's just ridiculous and it's only gotten this bad

744
00:48:55,344 --> 00:48:56,924
because I'm so indecisive.

745
00:48:57,084 --> 00:48:59,644
Like part of me wishes that I just stuck with one,

746
00:49:00,164 --> 00:49:00,644
the Xbox.

747
00:49:00,984 --> 00:49:02,124
Because I did that first.

748
00:49:02,724 --> 00:49:03,824
When this generation started,

749
00:49:03,884 --> 00:49:06,404
I got the Series S and I loved it at the time,

750
00:49:06,464 --> 00:49:07,544
but it had limitations.

751
00:49:08,104 --> 00:49:10,024
And rather than getting a Series X,

752
00:49:10,124 --> 00:49:10,824
right then and there,

753
00:49:10,904 --> 00:49:15,124
I got a PS5 and I played like three.

754
00:49:16,104 --> 00:49:18,544
Well, Final Fantasy 16, Stellar Blade.

755
00:49:18,684 --> 00:49:19,264
What was the other one?

756
00:49:19,364 --> 00:49:20,684
There was like one other exclusive.

757
00:49:20,964 --> 00:49:22,604
I'm probably thinking of Armored Core,

758
00:49:22,724 --> 00:49:23,544
but that wasn't exclusive.

759
00:49:24,084 --> 00:49:25,244
No, it was God of War, clearly.

760
00:49:25,344 --> 00:49:26,964
It came with the PS5. That game is shit.

761
00:49:27,184 --> 00:49:29,084
And that's why I do not give a shit about

762
00:49:29,084 --> 00:49:30,764
the new one that they announced at

763
00:49:30,764 --> 00:49:33,444
Summer Games Fest. I didn't even watch the trailer.

764
00:49:33,624 --> 00:49:35,384
I'm just not interested. Oh, I think that means

765
00:49:35,384 --> 00:49:37,364
you hate women. I've been told.

766
00:49:37,624 --> 00:49:39,304
Yes. However, I didn't

767
00:49:39,304 --> 00:49:39,744
even watch the trailer.

768
00:49:40,464 --> 00:49:42,964
You see, some people

769
00:49:42,964 --> 00:49:45,244
don't want to play the new God of War because

770
00:49:45,244 --> 00:49:47,324
they hate women. I don't want to play the new God

771
00:49:47,324 --> 00:49:48,904
of War because Ragnarok was ass.

772
00:49:49,644 --> 00:49:50,444
We are not the same.

773
00:49:51,044 --> 00:49:51,784
I don't know, Dylan.

774
00:49:52,804 --> 00:49:54,944
But, besides the point,

775
00:49:54,944 --> 00:49:58,124
So Xbox, everybody seems to think that they're going down the drain.

776
00:49:58,324 --> 00:49:59,184
I think they're doing fine.

777
00:49:59,364 --> 00:50:00,364
They're just making some moves.

778
00:50:00,844 --> 00:50:06,904
And I totally grabbed a fucking Series X right before the announcement that the price was going up.

779
00:50:06,964 --> 00:50:09,604
And it was fucking on sale because it was a $650 console.

780
00:50:09,704 --> 00:50:10,904
I got it for $600 flat.

781
00:50:11,284 --> 00:50:13,964
It was on sale at that store specifically.

782
00:50:14,464 --> 00:50:15,904
But it was like the last one in town.

783
00:50:15,984 --> 00:50:16,864
I went to three different stores.

784
00:50:17,164 --> 00:50:18,084
Like it was the only one.

785
00:50:18,364 --> 00:50:19,904
And it's because they need to make more.

786
00:50:20,564 --> 00:50:24,724
And making more is why there's a price hike because that new price is going to be on the next shipment.

787
00:50:24,944 --> 00:50:30,984
So, um, if, if you're listening to your listener, uh, you should probably get a series X before

788
00:50:30,984 --> 00:50:35,924
the price goes up because I, my plan is, well, you see graphics are diminishing return.

789
00:50:36,284 --> 00:50:37,264
I'm going to sit on it.

790
00:50:37,464 --> 00:50:41,884
I don't care if a new console comes out in from Microsoft or Sony, I'm not buying it.

791
00:50:42,084 --> 00:50:44,404
I'm going to sit on what I have and I'm going to wait for prices to come down.

792
00:50:44,464 --> 00:50:45,564
It's going to take a long time.

793
00:50:45,984 --> 00:50:46,304
Yeah.

794
00:50:47,364 --> 00:50:49,544
I'm not going to make the same mistake I did with the PS five.

795
00:50:49,784 --> 00:50:50,044
Yeah.

796
00:50:50,604 --> 00:50:53,784
Tell me if the PS six is a thing around the corner.

797
00:50:53,784 --> 00:50:56,544
I'm just gonna not even bother

798
00:50:56,544 --> 00:50:58,404
it's gonna suck

799
00:50:58,404 --> 00:51:00,724
because I'm sure there's gonna be an exclusive I fucking want

800
00:51:00,724 --> 00:51:02,304
I mean to be fair

801
00:51:02,304 --> 00:51:04,584
I'm already kicking myself for not getting

802
00:51:04,584 --> 00:51:06,684
a Switch 2 even though it's probably the right choice

803
00:51:06,684 --> 00:51:08,364
because

804
00:51:08,364 --> 00:51:09,444
Duskbloods is coming

805
00:51:09,444 --> 00:51:13,024
but at the same time

806
00:51:13,024 --> 00:51:14,564
it's like why the fuck

807
00:51:14,564 --> 00:51:16,424
would I go pay, actually I don't remember how much

808
00:51:16,424 --> 00:51:18,144
a Switch 2 is in Canadian doubloons

809
00:51:18,144 --> 00:51:20,244
but it's probably like 800 bucks

810
00:51:20,244 --> 00:51:22,244
you know 600, 800, something in that range

811
00:51:22,244 --> 00:51:27,824
uh why would i go fucking pay that for a game i'm not entirely certain i'll like it's just from soft

812
00:51:27,824 --> 00:51:33,984
right right this is like i get it they're unexclusive it or it wasn't worth my fucking

813
00:51:33,984 --> 00:51:40,144
time and it's like i getting switch to like yeah my youngest son he loves his i i've come to realize

814
00:51:40,144 --> 00:51:45,464
that the switch 2 is actually pretty viable of an option and it was so funny because at summer

815
00:51:45,464 --> 00:51:50,644
games fest the nintendo direct that they had it was like the the overall message of the direct was

816
00:51:50,644 --> 00:51:55,924
hey you can play all the games on this thing like all that stuff that our fans missed out on like

817
00:51:55,924 --> 00:52:02,364
devil may cry 5 seven years ago it runs now ha ha ha right um and it's like they've just been

818
00:52:02,364 --> 00:52:07,904
playing forever catch up but like i've said it before i'll say it again one more time right i i

819
00:52:07,904 --> 00:52:14,284
think i totally understand how a nintendo only gamer in light of the switch 2 might be very

820
00:52:14,284 --> 00:52:18,544
satisfied and if it was your only console you didn't have a gaming pc you didn't have anything

821
00:52:18,544 --> 00:52:22,984
else absolutely get a switch too and you'll be very happy like there's a lot to do on it now

822
00:52:22,984 --> 00:52:30,164
right but like it's too late for me um my kids already prefer roblox over minecraft right and

823
00:52:30,164 --> 00:52:36,384
that's not available on the switch so it's like well i can't just sell all my consoles and go all

824
00:52:36,384 --> 00:52:41,084
nintendo or they won't have roblox i mean that might not be so bad but i don't think they'll

825
00:52:41,084 --> 00:52:45,904
let me get away with it i think the kids care bitch and moan about it they care a lot about

826
00:52:45,904 --> 00:52:52,964
that yeah they're caring right now unless i want to share my personal computer with them uh i need

827
00:52:52,964 --> 00:52:59,244
to uh give them an avenue to play that very specific game but that's okay because like the

828
00:52:59,244 --> 00:53:05,784
switch 2 is still a compromise there's plenty it can't do and uh the market is what it is and with

829
00:53:05,784 --> 00:53:11,204
the way components are we're just kind of stuck with it so i'm gonna i i went with the xbox i'm

830
00:53:11,204 --> 00:53:16,464
gonna sit on it and i didn't get rid of my ps5 but it's just a dvd player now really and i'm just

831
00:53:16,464 --> 00:53:22,064
gonna wait for this thing that'll blow over i think it will with time like there's a lot of um

832
00:53:22,064 --> 00:53:26,484
companies that make chips that are opening up new fabricators which is gonna increase the throughput

833
00:53:26,484 --> 00:53:32,824
of uh the way how much chips can get made to relieve the bottleneck a little bit right but

834
00:53:32,824 --> 00:53:37,864
like it's not gonna get better for a while so speaking of not getting better bungee as well

835
00:53:37,864 --> 00:53:40,544
having pretty shit time.

836
00:53:40,664 --> 00:53:42,644
And it's funny because everyone keeps trying to talk about

837
00:53:42,644 --> 00:53:44,704
how bad Xbox is doing or all this Xbox

838
00:53:44,704 --> 00:53:46,764
news, but it's like, and then

839
00:53:46,764 --> 00:53:48,744
here comes Sony with, oh, we're laying off half of Bungie

840
00:53:48,744 --> 00:53:50,104
or some shit, right?

841
00:53:50,304 --> 00:53:52,944
I do actually want to talk about Bungie

842
00:53:52,944 --> 00:53:54,824
because as I promised

843
00:53:54,824 --> 00:53:56,784
on this podcast, I

844
00:53:56,784 --> 00:53:58,964
played Marathon. I want to know how it went.

845
00:53:59,964 --> 00:54:00,744
I did not make it

846
00:54:00,744 --> 00:54:02,704
10 hours. I stopped

847
00:54:02,704 --> 00:54:03,124
at 5.

848
00:54:05,464 --> 00:54:06,504
It's just, okay.

849
00:54:06,504 --> 00:54:09,344
pull out everything else aside

850
00:54:09,344 --> 00:54:10,664
just not fun

851
00:54:10,664 --> 00:54:12,484
I played extraction shooters before

852
00:54:12,484 --> 00:54:15,204
but like there are small things

853
00:54:15,204 --> 00:54:17,344
that you know doesn't sound like much

854
00:54:17,344 --> 00:54:18,844
it really doesn't right

855
00:54:18,844 --> 00:54:20,004
like when I say okay

856
00:54:20,004 --> 00:54:22,504
so you know how in these games

857
00:54:22,504 --> 00:54:24,284
oftentimes you get missions

858
00:54:24,284 --> 00:54:27,204
where some NPC says

859
00:54:27,204 --> 00:54:29,124
hey go here and do this thing for me

860
00:54:29,124 --> 00:54:31,004
usually in most of these games

861
00:54:31,004 --> 00:54:32,924
they let you accept a certain number of them

862
00:54:32,924 --> 00:54:34,424
be it three or all of them

863
00:54:34,424 --> 00:54:36,064
arc raiders it's all of them

864
00:54:36,504 --> 00:54:43,564
We're going to get to Arc Raiders, too, because Marathon was so bad, I installed and played Arc Raiders for...

865
00:54:43,564 --> 00:54:47,684
Check my numbers real quick, because it's a significant amount of hours.

866
00:54:47,684 --> 00:54:51,864
Arc Raiders for 80 hours over the past two weeks.

867
00:54:52,144 --> 00:54:53,184
Or three weeks, I guess.

868
00:54:53,604 --> 00:54:57,444
Over a two-week period, I played 80 hours of Arc Raiders.

869
00:54:57,844 --> 00:54:57,944
Wow.

870
00:54:58,164 --> 00:55:00,004
That's how bad Marathon was.

871
00:55:00,264 --> 00:55:01,664
I tried a new extraction shooter.

872
00:55:02,064 --> 00:55:03,684
Or a different extraction shooter, I guess.

873
00:55:04,604 --> 00:55:06,444
New is a quotation marks.

874
00:55:06,504 --> 00:55:14,504
it's relatively new it's new to me um it was easily the most fun i've had in uh in any

875
00:55:14,504 --> 00:55:19,824
extraction shooter bar one which will die will stay dead and we won't talk about that one

876
00:55:19,824 --> 00:55:28,464
and so yeah marathon is it's a hot mess like they're honestly the biggest issues are the

877
00:55:28,464 --> 00:55:34,204
consistency so for people who don't quite understand because you know maybe you're

878
00:55:34,204 --> 00:55:39,084
kind and naive or whatever, but you listen to our podcast, so you're probably a little bit more

879
00:55:39,084 --> 00:55:44,124
jaded. Consistency is a huge issue. If you're consistently bad, people can kind of overlook

880
00:55:44,124 --> 00:55:49,804
your flaws if they like your game, right? If you're inconsistent, though, then you get used

881
00:55:49,804 --> 00:55:54,664
to things where you're like, man, this little cutscene they're showing me has fantastic production

882
00:55:54,664 --> 00:56:03,484
quality. This is kind of how I would envision a biotech company 500 years in the future.

883
00:56:03,484 --> 00:56:08,704
But then we're like, okay, so we can only do one UI.

884
00:56:09,124 --> 00:56:10,084
Or not one UI, sorry.

885
00:56:10,384 --> 00:56:12,584
One quest.

886
00:56:12,884 --> 00:56:14,784
But you have like four quests available.

887
00:56:14,944 --> 00:56:15,744
One quest per run.

888
00:56:16,564 --> 00:56:20,224
That's artificially lengthening the game.

889
00:56:20,644 --> 00:56:22,064
It's an extraction shooter.

890
00:56:22,204 --> 00:56:23,824
It doesn't need artificial lengthening.

891
00:56:24,164 --> 00:56:25,924
It's already as long as you spend in the zone.

892
00:56:26,224 --> 00:56:26,524
Yes.

893
00:56:27,344 --> 00:56:29,644
Or how many times you keep going back.

894
00:56:29,644 --> 00:56:32,484
You could go into a zone with four quests

895
00:56:32,484 --> 00:56:34,904
and get killed and not do any of them.

896
00:56:35,604 --> 00:56:35,884
Correct.

897
00:56:36,064 --> 00:56:38,064
So it really is

898
00:56:38,064 --> 00:56:40,104
a very odd choice.

899
00:56:40,764 --> 00:56:40,964
Right.

900
00:56:41,504 --> 00:56:44,384
There are other things that clearly just didn't go through

901
00:56:44,384 --> 00:56:46,184
testing like the insanely

902
00:56:46,184 --> 00:56:47,704
small inventory

903
00:56:47,704 --> 00:56:49,884
time to kill is

904
00:56:49,884 --> 00:56:51,324
exceptionally low.

905
00:56:51,884 --> 00:56:53,624
I don't know.

906
00:56:53,864 --> 00:56:54,824
It's not...

907
00:56:54,824 --> 00:56:56,144
Call of Duty low?

908
00:56:56,624 --> 00:56:58,064
Yeah, Call of Duty, not Warzone.

909
00:56:58,704 --> 00:56:59,564
Regular Call of Duty.

910
00:56:59,644 --> 00:57:07,424
low oh well yeah it's like one shot to the head low not quite that low sorry it's not quite that

911
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:11,584
low like call of duty there are headshot multipliers but they're arguably reasonable

912
00:57:11,584 --> 00:57:17,284
you know i'm thinking of socom okay we're thinking socom yeah it's and i'm not saying

913
00:57:17,284 --> 00:57:25,684
that time to kill can't be low however that is a problem in extraction shooters it's not

914
00:57:25,684 --> 00:57:53,844
I know it's not necessarily the most balanced thing, but like, you know, and in fairness, like other games, like, but like, I don't know, I've, I've watched Tarkov firefights before. I've never played Tarkov, I'll admit, but I've watched firefights in Tarkov before and time to kill doesn't seem that low. Don't get me wrong. It's not long, but, and there are weapons that will absolutely ice a motherfucker in one or two hits in Tarkov, but it's not quite the same.

915
00:57:53,844 --> 00:57:56,824
the weapons also aren't fun

916
00:57:56,824 --> 00:57:58,624
right like they're

917
00:57:58,624 --> 00:58:00,564
I don't know there are a ton of

918
00:58:00,564 --> 00:58:02,944
they don't look good most of them don't look good

919
00:58:02,944 --> 00:58:04,184
some of them look fine but

920
00:58:04,184 --> 00:58:05,524
but yeah like

921
00:58:05,524 --> 00:58:08,344
one of the

922
00:58:08,344 --> 00:58:10,484
like they've got a pistol that's

923
00:58:10,484 --> 00:58:12,784
basically trying to be the magnum from the first

924
00:58:12,784 --> 00:58:14,204
Halo game but

925
00:58:14,204 --> 00:58:15,824
it has no barrel

926
00:58:15,824 --> 00:58:18,864
like you know the part

927
00:58:18,864 --> 00:58:20,924
where the trigger guard is that's basically the length

928
00:58:20,924 --> 00:58:22,204
of the barrel it looks like shit

929
00:58:22,204 --> 00:58:23,924
that's the issue

930
00:58:23,924 --> 00:58:27,344
parts of it play great

931
00:58:27,344 --> 00:58:28,304
parts of it

932
00:58:28,304 --> 00:58:30,724
the button layouts are kind of fucky

933
00:58:30,724 --> 00:58:33,124
parts of the UI look great

934
00:58:33,124 --> 00:58:34,484
parts of the UI look like shit

935
00:58:34,484 --> 00:58:36,424
again it's not consistent

936
00:58:36,424 --> 00:58:39,144
if you're running a company

937
00:58:39,144 --> 00:58:41,184
and you have a choice between

938
00:58:41,184 --> 00:58:43,324
a worker that says hey I can

939
00:58:43,324 --> 00:58:45,304
be there but then has to

940
00:58:45,304 --> 00:58:46,284
leave pretty consistently

941
00:58:46,284 --> 00:59:00,900
maybe they have a lot of medical emergencies or whatever you eventually going to let them go It not because you dislike their work that they do provide It that they inconsistent I would rather not have them call out entirely rather than show up for half a shift

942
00:59:01,140 --> 00:59:04,840
Because if they call out entirely, maybe I can call somebody else in to cover their shift.

943
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:07,520
But if they leave halfway through the shift, there's no fixing that.

944
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,100
And that's kind of the issue that I have with it.

945
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:11,900
It's not very fun.

946
00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:15,700
I mean, the firefight, the firefight I were in weren't bad.

947
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:25,880
but again like it almost always was determined by who shot first also there's no solos there

948
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:33,000
or there are solos there's no duo queue so you your duo is queuing into trios that's lame and

949
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:39,000
kind of weird well i'll tell you why they do have the they do have the uh framework for it

950
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:46,400
they have locked it because the player counts are too low to support you three queues oh my god

951
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:54,100
that is and it has been that way for a long time i mean granted the game is only like three months

952
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:59,880
old but you know basically since the beginning they did the free so i played on the free week

953
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:04,660
i didn't pay probably and people were probably more aggressive on the free week i i mean i know

954
01:00:04,660 --> 01:00:10,660
i was i wasn't planning on stay i knew i wasn't coming like after my first match just the tutorial

955
01:00:10,660 --> 01:00:14,080
of the game i knew i wasn't going to keep playing the game

956
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:23,480
like that is so funny like like i i'm so surprised that they let it get to the state that it's in

957
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:30,360
and what's weird is that it's all by all metrics we know marathon is not doing well oh yeah

958
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:37,780
usually not doing well sony still decided to announce the uh the end of content for destiny

959
01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:43,200
too right it's like they could have just not done that and they could have just uh kept making

960
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,780
destiny too well and that would have been the more lucrative option which is obviously why they

961
01:00:47,780 --> 01:00:53,980
couldn't do it and it's weird because like i saw and now i gotta pull it up um i saw maybe it's my

962
01:00:53,980 --> 01:01:04,320
bookmarks on twitter someone at sony yes uh they want to revitalize the market is the quote with

963
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:11,980
new live service games so not only are they you know not tired of losing but they want to keep at

964
01:01:11,980 --> 01:01:18,200
it hold on what i'll i'll link this article in the show notes but it's pretty short so let me read it

965
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:29,140
verbatim this is from uh insider gaming written by sam c poil uh it says and i quote the headline

966
01:01:29,140 --> 01:01:34,740
playstation wants to revitalize the market with new live service games here's the article's text

967
01:01:34,740 --> 01:01:40,000
it seems playstation is not done with live service titles yet and wants to focus more on first party

968
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,200
and third party content live service games and playstation have not had the best relationship

969
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:51,760
historically a major example is concord and now destiny 2 have joined the list of live service

970
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,840
games that did not turn out well for playstation despite these two did great what are they talking

971
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:04,020
about i know right well it's it's they probably mentioned it because it's being uh sunset right

972
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:09,820
well yeah it's being sunset but destiny 2 like makes money has a lot of players i bet destiny

973
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:16,860
right this second is making more money than marathon for them 100 and a lot of old destiny

974
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:23,520
fans have logged into the game in spite of marathon like it when the news came out like a final

975
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:29,780
whimper right well it's not a whimper they're they've got 10 times the number of players

976
01:02:29,780 --> 01:02:37,160
marathon has concurrently i know no marathon marathon is the sinking ship yeah that the

977
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:42,520
hole in the ship that is sinking the whole company right and if sony doesn't fucking do something

978
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:48,940
about it fast sony's going to get sunk by this like that as bad as fucking xbox is doing right

979
01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:57,140
now sony's going to do worse if they continue to tie themselves to this like i don't know stone

980
01:02:57,140 --> 01:03:02,700
like i don't know exactly how to express how bad it is well you know what um this article i'm

981
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:09,080
reading is like a repo or a commentary on another article but it's in japanese so i'm not going to

982
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,920
read it but let me read the rest of this right yeah so it says in a recent interview with femitsu

983
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,180
which i followed that link and that's why it's it's not in english i'm not going to read that

984
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:24,120
one's japanese yeah yeah but in that interview uh hideyaki nishino the president of sony

985
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,960
interactive entertainment shared insights about playstation's strategy for live service titles

986
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:32,920
nishino emphasized that sony believes live service games have the potential to reach players on a

987
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,940
global scale the company aims to revitalize the market through both first party and third party

988
01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:40,840
content in terms of live service content playstation is not only focusing on marketing

989
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,580
its upcoming titles but it is also considering how to enhance existing games in both the medium

990
01:03:44,580 --> 01:03:49,680
and long term nishino emphasized that it is crucial for continuously to continuously provide

991
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,160
new content and live service games as the genre is still relatively new and many developers are

992
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,200
experimenting with different approaches. PlayStation

993
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,200
aims to continue to take on

994
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,860
challenges within that context.

995
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,080
Nishino also reaffirmed that single player

996
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,260
games will remain first party, while

997
01:04:04,260 --> 01:04:06,320
the live service multiplayer games and platform

998
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,180
the platform will be considering

999
01:04:08,180 --> 01:04:10,300
for PS5 and PC as

1000
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:12,300
the basic platforms for release.

1001
01:04:13,540 --> 01:04:14,100
So

1002
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:16,200
it sounds like a whole lot of nothing,

1003
01:04:16,340 --> 01:04:18,300
but it's like a high level executive is

1004
01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:19,980
all in on live service.

1005
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,460
Well, I can still.

1006
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:24,000
I actually can explain the live service.

1007
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,800
it's the white whale so basically what this is well actually it's not a white whale it's golden

1008
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,960
goose uh that's what they're aiming for because white whale it's a metaphor for you know never

1009
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:41,560
being able to achieve it and killing everybody you love along the way um the golden goose on

1010
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:47,280
the other hand is you know they're trying to get the the roblox they want to be the next roblox

1011
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,960
they want the next minecraft or fortnight one of those three sony doesn't got one of those yet

1012
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,080
no they fucking don't honestly the closest thing that goddamn had to it was actually astrobot

1013
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:03,240
i know they had turned astrobot into a life service they probably would have fucking killed

1014
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:09,060
it because that's an all-ages games marathon not a fucking all-ages game helldiver not an all-ages

1015
01:05:09,060 --> 01:05:13,640
game yeah you can put your four-year-old on helldivers but they're gonna suck i'm sorry they

1016
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,240
are they don't have they don't have the motor controls to make it fucking work yeah but you

1017
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:25,720
know what they can pull out a fucking six seven gun and roblox and kick ass you should see my kids

1018
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:31,380
on that damn game they're so crazy they're absolutely cracked it's so fun to watch that's

1019
01:05:31,380 --> 01:05:40,860
my point though dude the the hold on you're you're cracking out no i'm i'm stuttering is what i'm

1020
01:05:40,860 --> 01:05:47,920
doing because i'm just like i'm having a moment um dude the i'm trying really hard not to crash

1021
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:54,640
out because this isn't something that affects me at all i'm just i'm mad at it because it makes

1022
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:03,180
everything demonstrably worse for no fucking reason right i don't know xbox is not doing well

1023
01:06:03,180 --> 01:06:09,180
like they put honestly i think they put this lady in so she's a pretty face so to speak i i don't

1024
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:13,660
actually know what she looks like but so she's a pretty face to tell all the bad news as she or

1025
01:06:13,660 --> 01:06:20,020
the changing news it's not necessarily all bad yeah and if if all the firing and laying off

1026
01:06:20,020 --> 01:06:25,240
doesn't work out they can just let her go right well i mean oh absolutely you know she's being

1027
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:31,060
watched like a hawk um because they were all xbox was all in on ai everything's an xbox and it

1028
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:37,120
backfired um not that i don't think that everything's an xbox inherently backfired i think it was the

1029
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:42,960
games past failure that really did it yeah um because if they if they continued to release

1030
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:51,300
games people wanted to play on game past then it would have done fine but like nobody wanted to

1031
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:56,480
play their fucking games past games not after the first couple years it was a thing it's like

1032
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,680
games past has quite a lot on it now um i remember when i paid for it back in the day

1033
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:06,240
uh i remember before i canceled it i was pretty unhappy with like the selection and i thought

1034
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,140
playstation plus was very comparable now playstation plus has grown as an offering it did

1035
01:07:11,140 --> 01:07:17,540
get better with time but i do feel game pass game pass got a lot better but it's not better enough

1036
01:07:17,540 --> 01:07:25,080
well that was kind of the issue right like with the game pass um it so initially when it released

1037
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:31,200
it was the superior option hands down then over time yes plus was like so what if we started

1038
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:36,340
releasing games that people wanted to play oh and letting them download it and to keep it too

1039
01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:41,900
yeah and then oh my goodness like they have a backlog of games from a generation that xbox

1040
01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:47,880
wasn't part of like i absolutely played through legend of dragoon on playstation plus and it was

1041
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,540
fucking awesome and they just have like dozens and dozens and dozens of playstation classics

1042
01:07:52,540 --> 01:07:59,400
on there uh xbox can't do that closest they have is perfect dark and golden eye 007 and they only

1043
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:06,000
have those because they own rare well in fairness uh one of the perfect dark games was an xbox

1044
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:13,660
exclusive right but they also like remade it for xbox yeah yeah oh yeah i know that they're

1045
01:08:13,660 --> 01:08:20,760
talking about that but like xbox does have um does have a history of games which is confusing

1046
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,000
to me why they don't because they were the original ones that even started backwards

1047
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:29,700
compatibility in any functional way after uh playstation 3 was like hey we're gonna do

1048
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:34,880
this entirely different uh framework so none of your old games actually work no more right

1049
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:40,520
and that's part of the reason why i i threw my hat in with xbox recently right is um now that i

1050
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,980
have that disk drive yeah sure not every single game is backwards compatible but you don't want

1051
01:08:44,980 --> 01:08:50,440
to play every single game it's a big long list though that's the point they basically all the

1052
01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:55,080
ones you want to play are backwards compatible because they're not going to fucking deal with

1053
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,160
like there's so many games that they're just not even going to fucking deal with it dude

1054
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:05,760
like because they it's no point it's not it's not worth the cost of making sure that it works

1055
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:14,580
and they upscale and where applicable 60 fps the games that you do try right um like uh like

1056
01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:19,780
milky rising if you ever wanted to play in 60 fps just play it on the xbox it just works or you know

1057
01:09:19,780 --> 01:09:28,700
pc of course right but still like they they make that transition really easy and i i love that

1058
01:09:28,700 --> 01:09:29,500
That's so cool.

1059
01:09:29,900 --> 01:09:34,480
And I, all of this could have been avoided if PS5 was simply backwards compatible.

1060
01:09:34,660 --> 01:09:35,320
That's all I wanted.

1061
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,280
We don't believe in that.

1062
01:09:36,900 --> 01:09:39,940
I have a binder full of discs from that era.

1063
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,580
I cannot play.

1064
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,080
You know what's ironic?

1065
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:49,360
Is PlayStation was the one that did the whole marketing strategy of, you want to know how

1066
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:50,460
you share a game with your friends?

1067
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,000
And they handed the guy the game.

1068
01:09:54,380 --> 01:09:55,680
They're the fuckers that did that.

1069
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:56,620
Also, also.

1070
01:09:56,620 --> 01:10:03,740
since we're shitting on both sony and microsoft fucking the new halo the couch co-op requiring

1071
01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:10,180
two fucking accounts oh hold on they did walk that back they i walked it back and they made

1072
01:10:10,180 --> 01:10:16,300
it sound like it was a typo but whatever at least they walked it back i do not believe them uh no

1073
01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:21,040
and that no but you still need two separate xbox accounts even if you don't have there's two

1074
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:26,080
separate psn accounts that part's true it was the it was the fact that you would need two separate

1075
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,540
accounts each to play it on your PlayStation that they walk back.

1076
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,420
Yeah.

1077
01:10:30,420 --> 01:10:33,520
Well, the good news is I won't be playing it on PlayStation.

1078
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:45,496
Well I will be playing it though You basically can do couch co though And I watched a video from one of the very We Love Halo channels

1079
01:10:46,376 --> 01:10:47,336
Late Night Gaming.

1080
01:10:47,616 --> 01:10:48,216
Shout out to them.

1081
01:10:48,936 --> 01:10:52,416
And there was a lot of laziness.

1082
01:10:54,036 --> 01:10:59,616
A lot of the flavor from the original game is currently lost.

1083
01:10:59,916 --> 01:11:00,236
I know.

1084
01:11:00,356 --> 01:11:03,576
It's so funny, too, because I was just playing Master Chief Collection with my nephew.

1085
01:11:03,576 --> 01:11:10,296
right the other day and we were doing um the fuck's that level with the island um

1086
01:11:10,296 --> 01:11:16,436
assault on the control room don't worry before that one sorry uh silent cartographer yeah we're

1087
01:11:16,436 --> 01:11:19,476
playing silent cartographer and we were doing we're taking the scorpion tank through the tunnel

1088
01:11:19,476 --> 01:11:24,256
right oh no that doesn't have a scorpion assault on the control room is the one with the scorpion

1089
01:11:24,256 --> 01:11:29,216
oh okay yeah yeah yeah and so we were we were going through the tunnel and the tunnel's all

1090
01:11:29,216 --> 01:11:35,196
big and alien uh in both the old graphics and the new right um and then i look at the trailer and

1091
01:11:35,196 --> 01:11:39,416
uh one thing that someone pointed out on twitter about the trailer is that the scorpion barely

1092
01:11:39,416 --> 01:11:44,936
fits inside the the tunnel like the the tunnel is scorpion tank size now instead of big and alien

1093
01:11:44,936 --> 01:11:53,056
right um and it's like uh now don't get me wrong i'm still gonna play it right but um somebody on

1094
01:11:53,056 --> 01:11:59,196
twitter tagged one of the original like artists that worked for bungie that worked on halo and

1095
01:11:59,196 --> 01:12:04,716
they asked him like what did you think of uh the trailer for campaign evolved and he's like looks

1096
01:12:04,716 --> 01:12:18,096
like a cool mod yeah based what a clap back oh my god but like yeah it's you know it's their little

1097
01:12:18,096 --> 01:12:24,356
mod i guess well he's right to call it that that's fair uh the irony is it's something everybody

1098
01:12:24,356 --> 01:12:31,196
wanted but in the end it feels like we didn't even really get yeah because yeah and don't get

1099
01:12:31,196 --> 01:12:34,976
me wrong a lot of us understand that they're going to be you know changing the art direction

1100
01:12:34,976 --> 01:12:40,656
in a lot of ways they're going to be changing up some of the like iconic scenes like the

1101
01:12:40,656 --> 01:12:47,436
like the pelicans are going to do flybys it's going to look more like a d-day landing i think

1102
01:12:47,436 --> 01:12:54,596
one of the pelicans get shot down in the initial beach assault on uh silent cartographer sure

1103
01:12:54,596 --> 01:13:01,136
whatever it honestly though the problem that i think we're going to run into is i suspect

1104
01:13:01,136 --> 01:13:06,916
they're not going to feel it's not going to feel like a desperate struggle for human like humanity's

1105
01:13:06,916 --> 01:13:11,616
wendling numbers on the ring because there there are no more humans on the ring right like

1106
01:13:11,616 --> 01:13:18,056
that is it not not in that level i mean like the the people who were on board the pillar of autumn

1107
01:13:18,056 --> 01:13:25,856
who happened to get off are the only humans there and so like they they spend a long time selling

1108
01:13:25,856 --> 01:13:32,056
that point in the very first uh mission of halo and that's part of why it's a travesty that master

1109
01:13:32,056 --> 01:13:39,116
chief's entire lifeboat lifeboat get all dies in the crash and yeah they it just feels like the

1110
01:13:39,116 --> 01:13:41,416
whatever they're doing, it's going to screw up

1111
01:13:41,416 --> 01:13:43,276
the original message.

1112
01:13:44,256 --> 01:13:45,556
And the original

1113
01:13:45,556 --> 01:13:47,576
every, just in small

1114
01:13:47,576 --> 01:13:49,616
ways. Again, like I say, it goes back to that same

1115
01:13:49,616 --> 01:13:51,796
thing. And Halo,

1116
01:13:52,016 --> 01:13:53,456
you can change, I mean, Halo

1117
01:13:53,456 --> 01:13:55,136
Studios, I mean, they can

1118
01:13:55,136 --> 01:13:57,416
keep painting over the

1119
01:13:57,416 --> 01:13:59,636
emblem, right? Like, if you

1120
01:13:59,636 --> 01:14:01,576
look closely, you can still see the outline of

1121
01:14:01,576 --> 01:14:03,516
343 Studios underneath. But

1122
01:14:03,516 --> 01:14:05,536
it's not going to change the fact that

1123
01:14:05,536 --> 01:14:07,776
that studio has yet to produce anything

1124
01:14:07,776 --> 01:14:14,196
of merit i know like the best they can do is remaster old shit because their new shit didn't

1125
01:14:14,196 --> 01:14:20,476
work out so well it's not even a remaster dude it's a re like what do we call it when they remake

1126
01:14:20,476 --> 01:14:27,256
it's a remake it but again they're still just borrowing old assets almost entirely and nothing

1127
01:14:27,256 --> 01:14:33,276
is new they're using reach they're using that old halo reach engine um they're using a lot of

1128
01:14:33,276 --> 01:14:34,076
assets from that.

1129
01:14:34,256 --> 01:14:37,336
Their orally,

1130
01:14:37,516 --> 01:14:38,736
in some cases, have

1131
01:14:38,736 --> 01:14:41,416
forced the textures from

1132
01:14:41,416 --> 01:14:43,416
the banished, from

1133
01:14:43,416 --> 01:14:45,196
Halo Infinite, to fit onto the models

1134
01:14:45,196 --> 01:14:47,556
where it were applicable. Some of them, they just

1135
01:14:47,556 --> 01:14:49,096
touched up the

1136
01:14:49,096 --> 01:14:51,296
region models. They added an ammo

1137
01:14:51,296 --> 01:14:52,916
counter to the Needler.

1138
01:14:53,176 --> 01:14:54,996
I'm not kidding, look it up.

1139
01:14:54,996 --> 01:14:57,216
Hold on, pull up Google right now.

1140
01:14:57,616 --> 01:14:58,056
Okay.

1141
01:14:59,176 --> 01:15:00,036
Okay, okay.

1142
01:15:00,856 --> 01:15:02,796
If I remember correctly, it looks really

1143
01:15:02,796 --> 01:15:10,856
stupid campaign evolved needler and it's like why you could just see the needles on your thing why

1144
01:15:10,856 --> 01:15:18,996
why do they need that holy shit we're going to love this guys the gamer oh god what do they want

1145
01:15:18,996 --> 01:15:24,776
what did their ai ghost writer say now halo campaign evolves needler ammo counter is everything

1146
01:15:24,776 --> 01:15:32,776
wrong with remakes oh god are we agreeing with the gamer hold up hold up buy lottery tickets now

1147
01:15:32,776 --> 01:15:38,256
Yeah, I was going to say, so Blessing and a Curse is one of their first things that they're saying about it.

1148
01:15:39,716 --> 01:15:41,016
So yada, yada, yada.

1149
01:15:42,116 --> 01:15:50,396
But yeah, there was, and they're right, there was something beautifully melancholic about the first Halo that none of the other games have managed to get.

1150
01:15:50,536 --> 01:15:51,996
That's very true, honestly.

1151
01:15:52,156 --> 01:16:01,236
Even the remakes or remasters they've done in the past, like the Gearbox, didn't actually get the graphics right because some of that original code was lost forever.

1152
01:16:01,236 --> 01:16:06,336
so there i don't know why you can't reverse engineer it from the disc but

1153
01:16:06,336 --> 01:16:10,076
that's not my i'm sure there's a developer out there that just groaned

1154
01:16:10,676 --> 01:16:14,156
when i said that you see that is a rabbit hole we don't have time for today called

1155
01:16:14,156 --> 01:16:19,736
decompilations it's the reason why dusk light is a thing for twilight princess it is not fast it is

1156
01:16:19,736 --> 01:16:27,816
not easy well it can be but not for games that were never designed with it in mind right

1157
01:16:27,816 --> 01:16:36,636
i was actually doing some of that recently i uh lately have been playing what is called open goal

1158
01:16:36,636 --> 01:16:42,596
which is a goal is a programming language g-o-a-l that was used for jack and daxter and they used it

1159
01:16:42,596 --> 01:16:48,196
to decompile all three jack and daxter games i'm on jack 2 right now it's fucking dope i need to go

1160
01:16:48,196 --> 01:16:54,116
through them again open goals the way like oh my god it's all those same reasons that dusk light is

1161
01:16:54,116 --> 01:16:57,996
the definitive way to play twilight princess open goal is the definitive way to play the jack

1162
01:16:57,996 --> 01:17:03,836
and taxed or games yeah like ping me when you want to start i will tell you how to do it oh yeah

1163
01:17:03,836 --> 01:17:09,936
it's actually funny too talking about like going back i i played freedom for the first time um

1164
01:17:09,936 --> 01:17:16,976
why were you playing freedom so if we're down to transition i'll talk about why i was playing

1165
01:17:16,976 --> 01:17:21,856
freedom i mean i i can only look at this needler for so long i'm closing this tab tell me about

1166
01:17:21,856 --> 01:17:28,336
free to so i so i mean i guess people at this point probably know there's a billion different

1167
01:17:28,336 --> 01:17:38,516
like mods remakes remasters fucking alterations and whatever for doom um and uh and everybody

1168
01:17:38,516 --> 01:17:44,356
knows i'm in the process of moving so uh i didn't we didn't want to start a game with the boys

1169
01:17:44,356 --> 01:17:49,456
we just finished playing path of excel 2 uh and we didn't want to like jump into something when

1170
01:17:49,456 --> 01:17:56,576
you know people are busy some of the guys are at evo right now so i was i downloaded songs of six

1171
01:17:56,576 --> 01:18:00,316
i decided you know what this game's probably a little still too early days for me i'm just

1172
01:18:00,316 --> 01:18:04,856
gonna go back to ellen and i was like oh fuck i should just mod the game why not so the first

1173
01:18:04,856 --> 01:18:11,916
fucking thing i see when i open up the workshop is doom in in ellen and i'm like that's that's

1174
01:18:11,916 --> 01:18:17,436
fucking hilarious i gotta download it but like let's go for it and then when i when i finally

1175
01:18:17,436 --> 01:18:21,776
got to where they where they put the arcade cabinet i just played it and beat it all the

1176
01:18:21,776 --> 01:18:30,736
way through so you modded doom into the video game ellen and eat it yep i just said fuck it

1177
01:18:30,736 --> 01:18:35,676
why not it was spider mastermind and all like all of doom no well no no but well free doom

1178
01:18:35,676 --> 01:18:42,616
being the the project that is like it looks like doom but it's otherwise like an indie game oh

1179
01:18:42,616 --> 01:18:43,096
Gotcha.

1180
01:18:44,596 --> 01:18:47,216
Apparently they have a part two now.

1181
01:18:47,476 --> 01:18:48,096
I'm kind of like,

1182
01:18:48,156 --> 01:18:50,496
maybe I'm a little in the mood.

1183
01:18:51,756 --> 01:18:53,316
But then I also thought about it.

1184
01:18:53,416 --> 01:18:54,616
I got a bunch of other

1185
01:18:54,616 --> 01:18:55,916
similar kind of games

1186
01:18:55,916 --> 01:18:59,256
in my backlog that I have never touched to.

1187
01:18:59,896 --> 01:19:01,716
I think Medieval is kind of like that, right?

1188
01:19:01,716 --> 01:19:02,736
I suppose

1189
01:19:02,736 --> 01:19:04,716
even not even talking about backlog,

1190
01:19:04,856 --> 01:19:06,076
I have never played Dusk.

1191
01:19:09,056 --> 01:19:11,216
I don't know.

1192
01:19:11,296 --> 01:19:12,476
I felt the itch again.

1193
01:19:12,616 --> 01:19:13,476
I was like, you know what?

1194
01:19:13,716 --> 01:19:15,216
It's fucking fun, dude.

1195
01:19:15,556 --> 01:19:16,176
That's fucking awesome.

1196
01:19:16,556 --> 01:19:17,676
It's also very weird.

1197
01:19:17,896 --> 01:19:19,216
One of those weird moments of like,

1198
01:19:19,576 --> 01:19:20,496
you always hear about people like,

1199
01:19:20,536 --> 01:19:22,256
oh, I got Doom on a pregnancy test.

1200
01:19:22,356 --> 01:19:24,116
You're not actually playing it on a pregnancy test.

1201
01:19:24,156 --> 01:19:24,616
Fuck that.

1202
01:19:25,796 --> 01:19:27,016
That's funny and cool,

1203
01:19:27,116 --> 01:19:28,616
but nobody's going to play that.

1204
01:19:29,296 --> 01:19:30,516
And I downloaded it thinking,

1205
01:19:30,636 --> 01:19:32,456
it was like, oh, this will be a ha-ha-hee-hee moment.

1206
01:19:32,576 --> 01:19:33,036
And then meanwhile,

1207
01:19:33,196 --> 01:19:37,636
I just fucking beat this effectively Doom-themed indie game

1208
01:19:37,636 --> 01:19:39,596
in like a couple hours.

1209
01:19:40,536 --> 01:19:42,016
Well, it's like, what is it?

1210
01:19:42,016 --> 01:19:50,576
the uh the doom rpg that they made for the phones oh my god yeah yeah i remember um i remember uh

1211
01:19:50,576 --> 01:19:56,396
fully maxing out my uh doom guy and basically punching my way through the game i think i

1212
01:19:56,396 --> 01:20:00,996
actually uh used the chainsaw because but yeah because there were training areas and so you

1213
01:20:00,996 --> 01:20:05,836
like punching the turkeys or running on the treadmill i forget which um and so you literally

1214
01:20:05,836 --> 01:20:12,316
just max out your important strength stat and you chainsaw things in one hit i think i i think

1215
01:20:12,316 --> 01:20:18,016
you literally can one tap the uh cyber demon that's amazing yeah it's fucking stupid is what

1216
01:20:18,016 --> 01:20:23,956
it is yeah but it's i mean he had it coming realistically oh yeah it's a lot of fun if id

1217
01:20:23,956 --> 01:20:29,856
software still had their whimsy they would find a way to put that shit in one of their newer games

1218
01:20:29,856 --> 01:20:37,396
just to have as a thing kind of like um they did with uh the turkey puncher but uh their their

1219
01:20:37,396 --> 01:20:43,336
games got less fun with time i've noticed like like doom the dark ages my son loves it it's fun

1220
01:20:43,336 --> 01:20:49,556
it's like also thinking about it like i was watching him and my nephew play it the other day

1221
01:20:49,556 --> 01:20:57,716
um there's a lot going on in that game it's very visually busy right it feels like doom for kids

1222
01:20:57,716 --> 01:21:02,896
yeah and they loved it they loved every minute of it and it's like when we were playing halo

1223
01:21:02,896 --> 01:21:07,916
i had to tell my nephew where we're going i'm like let me drive the warthog you don't know

1224
01:21:07,916 --> 01:21:11,296
where we're going the game's not telling you and you're not curious enough to find out

1225
01:21:11,296 --> 01:21:15,456
whereas uh i can walk out of the room while they're playing doom the dark ages and they'll

1226
01:21:15,456 --> 01:21:21,656
get to the level just fine and it's like i feel like there's a comment here it's like

1227
01:21:21,656 --> 01:21:29,216
put my finger on it there's no yellow paint here but yellow paint was here like something there's

1228
01:21:29,216 --> 01:21:37,256
something about it i don't know what it is that's funny as shit though dude yeah but speaking of

1229
01:21:37,256 --> 01:21:42,416
the dark ages there was a trailer at uh summer games fest for some dlc for that game it doesn't

1230
01:21:42,416 --> 01:21:47,396
look bad i guess um but like did you guys watch any of the summer games fest at all are you guys

1231
01:21:47,396 --> 01:21:52,256
excited for anything i fucking of all the things that i could put on my second monitor while i'm

1232
01:21:52,256 --> 01:21:58,736
doing shit i keep fucking forgetting to do it oh so you don't even know i know i i've heard some

1233
01:21:58,736 --> 01:22:04,416
things and here and there and i'm like a lot of it sounds fucking exciting it sounds like the one

1234
01:22:04,416 --> 01:22:09,576
fucking the one fucking year i skip it is the one year that i probably shouldn't have

1235
01:22:09,576 --> 01:22:16,956
fuck me i guess dude i've been so busy lately though it's all good man i did not give it the

1236
01:22:16,956 --> 01:22:32,612
time of day I I did well I didn watch the Sony one because fuck Sony right but as you heard there a new God of War game coming cool I guess the the apparently um so this new god of war game is like it with kratos wife cool i guess right we don even

1237
01:22:32,612 --> 01:22:37,632
know what she looks like until now and her companion the gelatinous cube what a choice

1238
01:22:37,632 --> 01:22:44,292
i might call it a companion cube oh my god i mean speaking of the steam machine has a companion cube

1239
01:22:44,292 --> 01:22:48,332
i don't want to talk about the steam machine it's too expensive sorry i can't afford to talk about

1240
01:22:48,332 --> 01:22:57,372
it you can't afford to talk about it oh that's fucking great don't one i know um no there's a

1241
01:22:57,372 --> 01:23:00,992
reason that's the other reason i bought the series x when i did is that the the price of the steam

1242
01:23:00,992 --> 01:23:05,772
machine was announced and it was too fucking high so uh no that's not happening in this household

1243
01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:13,832
until that comes down it's still if you only have like 13 14 1500 bucks to buy a pc with it's still

1244
01:23:13,832 --> 01:23:19,552
your best choice than custom with that low of a budget right yeah it's still the best choice

1245
01:23:19,552 --> 01:23:27,032
however it's too high for me i i wanted it to be lower for what it is but uh back to summer

1246
01:23:27,032 --> 01:23:33,492
games fest uh so i didn't watch sony i only heard about the lafay thing um xbox i i went in hoping

1247
01:23:33,492 --> 01:23:37,112
they would announce the new console because i really wanted to make an informed decision before

1248
01:23:37,112 --> 01:23:41,252
pulling the trigger on the series x right i think i did the mate i made the right move because they

1249
01:23:41,252 --> 01:23:45,332
didn't announce shit right they clearly don't have a plan for this new console i think they're

1250
01:23:45,332 --> 01:23:49,632
reworking it i think whatever they have under the curtain i think it's too expensive they know it

1251
01:23:49,632 --> 01:23:55,652
right but the series x obviously has a long life ahead everything they showed series x compatible

1252
01:23:55,652 --> 01:24:01,732
and looks pretty right um they they're making another gears of war that actually looks like

1253
01:24:01,732 --> 01:24:07,592
gears of war not whatever the hell gears 5 was yeah that's great for gears fans um i was never

1254
01:24:07,592 --> 01:24:12,012
one of them but like they're all on game pass maybe i'll give it a go if i have nothing better

1255
01:24:12,012 --> 01:24:18,532
to play they also for whatever reason uh xbox and microsoft they have this partnership with atlas

1256
01:24:18,532 --> 01:24:26,172
right so it was actually them uh who got to announce uh persona 6 and the persona 4 reveal

1257
01:24:26,172 --> 01:24:33,832
trailer yeah i hear people are not as happy with persona 4 but they are rather excited for persona

1258
01:24:33,832 --> 01:24:38,972
6 it's like i could see why like some of the models look a little washed out like there's a

1259
01:24:38,972 --> 01:24:44,252
lot less shadows going on with the with the pictures right um and it's just brighter in

1260
01:24:44,252 --> 01:24:47,712
general but like also some people are really worried the localization is going to be really

1261
01:24:47,712 --> 01:24:55,052
chopped because um uh in persona for golden kanji's dungeon the boss right is this big buff

1262
01:24:55,052 --> 01:25:00,492
dude with kanji and a bed of flowers and he's holding two like uh the the circle with the arrow

1263
01:25:00,492 --> 01:25:06,912
male icons in the new game he's holding one of each but apparently i haven't verified this but

1264
01:25:06,912 --> 01:25:10,552
somebody on twitter pointed out that that's what it looked like in the original persona for and it

1265
01:25:10,552 --> 01:25:14,992
was changed to two males for golden so like maybe it's okay i don't actually fucking know i only

1266
01:25:14,992 --> 01:25:22,292
played golden i don't i didn't play the original yeah i don't know i mean and to be fair like i

1267
01:25:22,292 --> 01:25:28,452
think it's fair to be skeptical too because like uh i mean look at how some of these games go even

1268
01:25:28,452 --> 01:25:32,572
even if we're not even talking about like the fear that they might have you know in like the

1269
01:25:32,572 --> 01:25:39,452
modern the modern audience and of it all even if we ignore that fact there is a lot of things that

1270
01:25:39,452 --> 01:25:47,372
fan well i said fans i mean you i say that lightly in this context that have uh i guess gotten it in

1271
01:25:47,372 --> 01:25:50,852
their head about what the what certain things were about the game like you're thinking about like

1272
01:25:50,852 --> 01:25:56,652
naoto yeah they might just come here they might fuck it up just on the pretense that you know what

1273
01:25:56,652 --> 01:25:58,672
there are at least a vocal

1274
01:25:58,672 --> 01:25:59,832
amount of Twitter

1275
01:25:59,832 --> 01:26:02,652
retards who

1276
01:26:02,652 --> 01:26:04,692
can't parse anything past

1277
01:26:04,692 --> 01:26:05,372
with, you know,

1278
01:26:06,592 --> 01:26:09,072
I guess like the surface level of whatever they're

1279
01:26:09,072 --> 01:26:10,732
consuming. Boy dresses as girl

1280
01:26:10,732 --> 01:26:12,052
must be trans.

1281
01:26:12,612 --> 01:26:14,952
Or girl dresses as boy must be trans.

1282
01:26:15,292 --> 01:26:16,312
And it's funny because

1283
01:26:16,312 --> 01:26:18,572
I remember back when I was going through

1284
01:26:18,572 --> 01:26:20,732
for, I even thought that initially

1285
01:26:20,732 --> 01:26:22,532
I was like, oh, and you know what?

1286
01:26:22,552 --> 01:26:24,672
I think to some extent, and I can't speak for

1287
01:26:24,672 --> 01:26:26,592
the devs, but my understanding

1288
01:26:26,592 --> 01:26:28,712
I think the devs were trying to push

1289
01:26:28,712 --> 01:26:30,992
that in a sense

1290
01:26:30,992 --> 01:26:33,072
but I don't think that that's what

1291
01:26:33,072 --> 01:26:35,292
they were trying to say I think is the issue

1292
01:26:35,292 --> 01:26:36,712
that I always drew from it

1293
01:26:36,712 --> 01:26:39,032
and they've clarified

1294
01:26:39,032 --> 01:26:41,152
even after the fact that that is not the point

1295
01:26:41,152 --> 01:26:43,172
I think the point was more

1296
01:26:43,172 --> 01:26:45,152
that Naruto is allowed to be

1297
01:26:45,152 --> 01:26:47,192
boyish and also

1298
01:26:47,192 --> 01:26:49,192
still be a girl and Kanji is allowed

1299
01:26:49,192 --> 01:26:50,792
to be effeminate

1300
01:26:50,792 --> 01:26:53,332
and be a manly man

1301
01:26:53,332 --> 01:26:54,432
and still be a man

1302
01:26:54,432 --> 01:26:59,612
yeah and still be a man so but they're towing that line because you know what realistically

1303
01:26:59,612 --> 01:27:03,092
and and i don't even know if persona 4 is trying to be that deep but like

1304
01:27:03,092 --> 01:27:08,212
in a realistic sense that is kind of the line that gets towed so it's like yeah i mean that

1305
01:27:08,212 --> 01:27:12,892
all checks out but like there it's a it's a thin line that if they start changing shit or

1306
01:27:12,892 --> 01:27:18,032
localizing things funny enough localizing things in the bad direction they could very easily fuck

1307
01:27:18,032 --> 01:27:23,992
the game yeah in a way that is irredeemable like we're not even talking like fucking it like again

1308
01:27:23,992 --> 01:27:25,992
like I talked about with the Xenoblade 2 moment where

1309
01:27:25,992 --> 01:27:27,772
sure it's annoying that they changed the names

1310
01:27:27,772 --> 01:27:30,032
they didn't need to do that but like that doesn't

1311
01:27:30,032 --> 01:27:31,912
hurt the game any it really doesn't like hurt

1312
01:27:31,912 --> 01:27:33,972
the enjoyment or like fuck it over

1313
01:27:33,972 --> 01:27:35,832
but changing something as

1314
01:27:35,832 --> 01:27:37,932
like minimal as like the way that

1315
01:27:37,932 --> 01:27:39,932
these dungeons play out

1316
01:27:39,932 --> 01:27:41,992
and I guess and in turn their stories

1317
01:27:41,992 --> 01:27:43,732
would realistically

1318
01:27:43,732 --> 01:27:46,212
kill the entire point of Persona 4

1319
01:27:46,212 --> 01:27:47,752
yeah like there's a lot to

1320
01:27:47,752 --> 01:27:49,952
I'd say fear

1321
01:27:49,952 --> 01:27:51,252
or be worried about

1322
01:27:51,252 --> 01:27:53,972
I'll probably still play it Persona 4 is still

1323
01:27:53,972 --> 01:27:59,512
my favorite i i have to share something that i thought was the most ridiculous take um so

1324
01:27:59,512 --> 01:28:06,852
i'm taking a screenshot right now let me just put this in our chat real quick so in the internet's

1325
01:28:06,852 --> 01:28:12,652
you know endless crusade to shame this game since announcement right some people said they didn't

1326
01:28:12,652 --> 01:28:16,952
like the battle menu do you remember what they show oh you didn't see the trailer did you no i

1327
01:28:16,952 --> 01:28:23,412
have not so i just know it's a thing the new battle menu looks like a tv dial that is an

1328
01:28:23,412 --> 01:28:28,952
excellent choice yeah that's fucking awesome well i i will say without having seen it that

1329
01:28:28,952 --> 01:28:33,872
sounds fucking amazing but well it looks fucking amazing and i'm about to show it to you to be fair

1330
01:28:33,872 --> 01:28:37,412
i trust your take i mean realistically if it wasn't for you i wouldn't have played persona

1331
01:28:37,412 --> 01:28:42,032
in the first fucking place so so there are people online who are looking for reasons to be mad at

1332
01:28:42,032 --> 01:28:50,812
this game that said that they preferred the menu in golden because it was a better design and it's

1333
01:28:50,812 --> 01:28:57,612
meant to look like the dvd menu of a dvd and i'm like brother have you seen the iconography for

1334
01:28:57,612 --> 01:29:02,952
tvs and persona 4 what they were going for the time and place that it takes place here's the

1335
01:29:02,952 --> 01:29:09,732
side by side look in the discord and tell me tell me the new one isn't better how how could you ever

1336
01:29:09,732 --> 01:29:16,992
think that like the new one is clearly better for the record the one that they had in the original

1337
01:29:16,992 --> 01:29:18,752
or well, I guess it's gold, not original, but

1338
01:29:18,752 --> 01:29:20,072
is

1339
01:29:20,072 --> 01:29:22,632
effectively it is

1340
01:29:22,632 --> 01:29:25,512
like the

1341
01:29:25,512 --> 01:29:27,732
clip art version

1342
01:29:27,732 --> 01:29:30,092
of the thematics they're trying to push.

1343
01:29:30,172 --> 01:29:32,052
Which was fine for a game of its age.

1344
01:29:32,732 --> 01:29:33,112
Well, yeah.

1345
01:29:33,772 --> 01:29:35,332
They're not even talking shit.

1346
01:29:35,492 --> 01:29:36,732
I fucking loved it.

1347
01:29:37,232 --> 01:29:39,432
So I would be retarded to talk shit.

1348
01:29:39,432 --> 01:29:41,272
Because I'd be literally, I would be

1349
01:29:41,272 --> 01:29:42,792
calling myself out.

1350
01:29:43,372 --> 01:29:43,592
I know.

1351
01:29:43,592 --> 01:29:45,292
Well, and the new one...

1352
01:29:45,292 --> 01:29:47,152
The new one, you know what it

1353
01:29:47,152 --> 01:29:48,552
initially reminds me of?

1354
01:29:49,232 --> 01:29:51,272
It kind of reminds me of the

1355
01:29:51,272 --> 01:29:53,252
Persona 5 layout, but they

1356
01:29:53,252 --> 01:29:54,752
did it in a way

1357
01:29:54,752 --> 01:29:57,452
that is extremely Persona 4.

1358
01:29:58,172 --> 01:29:58,632
Yeah, right.

1359
01:29:59,032 --> 01:30:01,392
That's the point of it. It's supposed to be

1360
01:30:01,392 --> 01:30:02,912
Persona 5 adjacent.

1361
01:30:03,292 --> 01:30:04,952
And I know there's going to be some diehards

1362
01:30:04,952 --> 01:30:07,352
to be fair. If you're a diehard

1363
01:30:07,352 --> 01:30:09,032
for specifically Persona

1364
01:30:09,032 --> 01:30:11,092
and you only ever fucking think, breathe, eat,

1365
01:30:11,192 --> 01:30:12,612
shit, and sleep Persona,

1366
01:30:12,612 --> 01:30:17,792
go outside but regardless of that there will be some people that are gonna be like oh well

1367
01:30:17,792 --> 01:30:23,132
it shouldn't have even looked like persona 5 because persona 5 sucks duh i'm a persona forehead

1368
01:30:23,132 --> 01:30:28,612
it's like uh shut the fuck up because first off a game like this is not being developed

1369
01:30:28,612 --> 01:30:33,132
for people who only like persona 4 it's for people who probably only play persona 5

1370
01:30:33,132 --> 01:30:41,532
that that's a realism that we have to come to terms with right so them mimicking or piggybacking

1371
01:30:41,532 --> 01:30:42,672
I guess in this context,

1372
01:30:42,812 --> 01:30:45,072
off of Persona 5 is a really good idea.

1373
01:30:45,672 --> 01:30:46,792
Regardless of if you,

1374
01:30:46,792 --> 01:30:47,912
people might hate that,

1375
01:30:47,932 --> 01:30:49,712
but it's still a really fucking good idea.

1376
01:30:50,412 --> 01:30:52,252
If for no other reason than just marketing,

1377
01:30:52,332 --> 01:30:52,512
right?

1378
01:30:52,692 --> 01:30:53,152
But they,

1379
01:30:53,272 --> 01:30:56,392
they could have easily went one-to-one with Persona 5 and it just been

1380
01:30:56,392 --> 01:30:57,372
soulless and be like,

1381
01:30:57,472 --> 01:30:57,832
Hey look,

1382
01:30:57,972 --> 01:30:58,492
Persona 4,

1383
01:30:58,572 --> 01:30:59,732
but now it looks like Persona 5,

1384
01:30:59,832 --> 01:31:00,892
come play our fucking game.

1385
01:31:01,212 --> 01:31:02,152
But instead they're like,

1386
01:31:02,192 --> 01:31:02,412
okay,

1387
01:31:02,412 --> 01:31:05,292
well we should make it look similar because we're going to get a lot of

1388
01:31:05,292 --> 01:31:06,292
Persona 5 only's,

1389
01:31:06,832 --> 01:31:09,652
but it still has to be thematic like Persona 4 because we're not

1390
01:31:09,652 --> 01:31:11,432
retarded and we don't hate our fucking games.

1391
01:31:11,532 --> 01:31:15,932
we're a japanese studio we're not from the west i i feel like i have to give the haters a little

1392
01:31:15,932 --> 01:31:20,532
bit of room uh about their complaints so as much as i think they're invalid for bitching about

1393
01:31:20,532 --> 01:31:26,472
four and what we've seen i have to remind you of three so did you play oh fair you know what

1394
01:31:26,472 --> 01:31:32,732
i haven't i i have seen a little bit i haven't played it um i actually skipped it on three on

1395
01:31:32,732 --> 01:31:38,232
purpose uh i guess a quick aside i had i had the uh the true ending spoiled for me accidentally

1396
01:31:38,232 --> 01:31:43,292
one of our friends didn't realize i hadn't played it yeah so it's in my backlog i do want to

1397
01:31:43,292 --> 01:31:49,912
eventually go through it because i i mean i liked four uh i liked five and actually realistically i

1398
01:31:49,912 --> 01:31:55,152
mean i mean we've talked about this before uh if with the moment that i ever get the itch and it

1399
01:31:55,152 --> 01:32:01,132
comes through i might even play persona one two and all the smt games so i'm really tempted to

1400
01:32:01,132 --> 01:32:04,692
I don't want to change it too hard

1401
01:32:04,692 --> 01:32:06,992
but I always really hated

1402
01:32:06,992 --> 01:32:08,852
people who got into things

1403
01:32:08,852 --> 01:32:10,352
and only really enjoyed them through

1404
01:32:10,352 --> 01:32:11,092
Neuroscope

1405
01:32:11,092 --> 01:32:13,992
and I used to be one of those kids

1406
01:32:13,992 --> 01:32:16,332
I only played Vesperia for Tales of

1407
01:32:16,332 --> 01:32:18,472
an RPG series that was beloved to me

1408
01:32:18,472 --> 01:32:21,012
and I would go around telling people yeah I'm a Tales of fan

1409
01:32:21,012 --> 01:32:23,212
I've only played fucking Vesperia

1410
01:32:23,212 --> 01:32:24,172
that's cringe

1411
01:32:24,172 --> 01:32:26,012
and I haven't even beaten it

1412
01:32:26,012 --> 01:32:29,392
I got to the last boss and we couldn't rent the game anymore

1413
01:32:29,392 --> 01:32:36,612
um not not not our fault mind you so not not a fake fan in that context i did try i know i put

1414
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:41,012
the fucking effort in man i don't know i was a kid without a job i don't know what to tell you

1415
01:32:41,012 --> 01:32:48,472
anyways but regardless so let me tell you right so i i have to give the haters some room uh as

1416
01:32:48,472 --> 01:32:52,972
wrong as they are about persona 4 they were right about persona 3 i'm going to share with you three

1417
01:32:52,972 --> 01:32:57,092
images that's true i'm going to describe them to the audience because i i don't have a good way to

1418
01:32:57,092 --> 01:33:02,992
add them to the show notes uh but basically in the original persona 3 and the portable version

1419
01:33:02,992 --> 01:33:10,792
which is when i played right persona 3 portable um the menu looks like the revolver um ammo

1420
01:33:10,792 --> 01:33:16,012
cylinder right because in the game they summon their personas by shooting themselves in the head

1421
01:33:16,012 --> 01:33:20,832
with like this thing called an evoker that looks like a gun it doesn't shoot bullets right but um

1422
01:33:20,832 --> 01:33:24,912
it tied in with the theme of the game which is all about dying right but the whole theme of the

1423
01:33:24,912 --> 01:33:31,012
game is dying right um and die and so they they shoot themselves in the head to summon their

1424
01:33:31,012 --> 01:33:36,572
personas they all do it in a different way it's very gruesome uh it made a lot of people uh in

1425
01:33:36,572 --> 01:33:41,592
the 2000s nervous when this game came out now i've scrawled the images and i see the issue immediately

1426
01:33:41,592 --> 01:33:46,852
you see the issue with the new one it doesn't really look like a gun anymore um at all and

1427
01:33:46,852 --> 01:33:53,192
it's like it is lacking in soul or as my children would say that is minus aura uh it is minus aura

1428
01:33:53,192 --> 01:33:56,272
I mean, it's going to be the show notes, right?

1429
01:33:56,632 --> 01:33:57,832
You're going to put these images in the show notes?

1430
01:33:58,292 --> 01:33:59,252
I can fucking try.

1431
01:34:00,352 --> 01:34:00,712
Okay.

1432
01:34:00,932 --> 01:34:07,452
Well, as someone who hasn't played it, I want to go through this in a way that I think makes sense, right?

1433
01:34:07,552 --> 01:34:10,332
If you're going to go in deep hill here, I will find a way to put them in the show notes.

1434
01:34:10,372 --> 01:34:11,072
I promise you now.

1435
01:34:11,292 --> 01:34:11,592
Okay.

1436
01:34:11,932 --> 01:34:12,252
I will do it.

1437
01:34:12,288 --> 01:34:17,528
The first two images that he's linked me are the original Persona 3.

1438
01:34:17,988 --> 01:34:22,768
And it shows the, you know, the circular bit where it kind of looks like a revolver cylinder.

1439
01:34:23,668 --> 01:34:24,288
It looks cool.

1440
01:34:24,288 --> 01:34:29,608
When you scroll the menu, like, it rotates all of the symbols so the one you're activated on is in the barrel.

1441
01:34:30,108 --> 01:34:31,448
Actually, that's fucking awesome.

1442
01:34:31,708 --> 01:34:32,328
I like that.

1443
01:34:32,788 --> 01:34:34,108
But, like, that's really cool.

1444
01:34:34,368 --> 01:34:39,328
But then you get to the third image that he's linked, and it is from the new one.

1445
01:34:39,328 --> 01:34:46,888
and it kind of looks like a weird crossbreed between persona four and fives like menu layout

1446
01:34:46,888 --> 01:34:53,688
like this is like in combat layout mind you and you know what that is really stupid but i gotta say

1447
01:34:53,688 --> 01:34:59,608
this is the same kind of energy that they put towards that persona four one but they did the

1448
01:34:59,608 --> 01:35:06,128
persona four one infinitely better so i'm gonna i'm gonna say i think that they may have learned

1449
01:35:06,128 --> 01:35:10,828
or listen to criticism i don't know i don't know the company very well i've only played like two

1450
01:35:10,828 --> 01:35:18,468
other games but from from this initial looking look that i'm having like comparing the persona

1451
01:35:18,468 --> 01:35:24,708
four new and the persona three new i see the the same energy being put forth but one is done

1452
01:35:24,708 --> 01:35:29,908
infinitely better than the other it's true and it's like i i get it because um for example

1453
01:35:29,908 --> 01:35:36,408
metaphor of fantasia right not a not a persona game right yeah uh but even they suffered from

1454
01:35:36,408 --> 01:35:42,848
like p5 face like this looks like the p5 battle menu i've just sent a picture right and it's like

1455
01:35:42,848 --> 01:35:48,008
yeah sure like there's some artsy fartsy stuff going on with the font and the colors and

1456
01:35:48,008 --> 01:35:52,188
the way that the thing looks and the ball shinny and snakes there that's everything everything

1457
01:35:52,188 --> 01:35:58,988
looks like paint splattered almost yeah and that is absolute intentional choice right and i love

1458
01:35:58,988 --> 01:36:03,088
this game it's really good but like i'd say this looks too persona 5 i mean it's definitely laid

1459
01:36:03,088 --> 01:36:08,668
out like persona i was gonna say if persona 5 didn't happen this didn't happen exactly oh for

1460
01:36:08,668 --> 01:36:13,108
sure it definitely shares a a similar layout but i would say like stylistically it is a very different

1461
01:36:13,108 --> 01:36:19,488
uh also they um i don't remember where i saw having not seen the persona 5 battle in a bit too

1462
01:36:19,488 --> 01:36:24,688
so forgive me if i'm if i'm a little a little off on that i'm gonna look it up

1463
01:36:24,688 --> 01:36:28,648
it has been a few years since i played it but

1464
01:36:28,988 --> 01:36:29,708
It's been one week.

1465
01:36:30,648 --> 01:36:32,328
It's a meme, right?

1466
01:36:33,008 --> 01:36:35,968
People keep laying it over other images as a joke

1467
01:36:35,968 --> 01:36:37,648
because it's so iconic at this point.

1468
01:36:37,768 --> 01:36:38,128
Oh, dude.

1469
01:36:38,548 --> 01:36:38,968
Yeah, no.

1470
01:36:39,128 --> 01:36:40,208
It is absolutely weird.

1471
01:36:40,448 --> 01:36:42,108
It's because Persona 5 was the first time

1472
01:36:42,108 --> 01:36:43,388
they went really hard on the menu design,

1473
01:36:43,568 --> 01:36:44,688
and then everyone loved it,

1474
01:36:44,688 --> 01:36:46,108
and they're like, what if we did this in every game?

1475
01:36:47,628 --> 01:36:51,268
It's very rare that your UI is where you see success.

1476
01:36:51,788 --> 01:36:53,768
A lot of times when you do a UI for a game,

1477
01:36:53,848 --> 01:36:55,768
it's either, God, this is fucking obnoxious.

1478
01:36:55,828 --> 01:36:57,128
I can't stand going through this thing.

1479
01:36:57,128 --> 01:37:01,548
or it's uh oh oh this is good enough i can go through this but it's very rare that it's like

1480
01:37:01,548 --> 01:37:08,428
a holy shit every time i open up the menu i feel fucking good about this game yeah yeah most of the

1481
01:37:08,428 --> 01:37:13,888
time i see a ui and it's like i don't want to play this anymore why why why is it so difficult to

1482
01:37:13,888 --> 01:37:17,648
explain how to play space engineers to a five-year-old i'm never doing this again uh you

1483
01:37:17,648 --> 01:37:22,688
know sometimes that's the experience i've had that well and i think the way that you well i think what

1484
01:37:22,688 --> 01:37:23,828
you're pointing out there, right?

1485
01:37:23,828 --> 01:37:27,488
That's my primary complaint going back full circle.

1486
01:37:27,488 --> 01:37:31,328
The marathon is that it needs to be fun to fucking play.

1487
01:37:31,328 --> 01:37:33,288
That's just a full stop.

1488
01:37:33,288 --> 01:37:36,608
If the game is not fun, then it's not a good game.

1489
01:37:36,608 --> 01:37:38,588
I don't give a shit what anybody thinks,

1490
01:37:38,588 --> 01:37:53,750
how much they want to protect their precious purchase because it always about money In the grand scheme it is really always about money They bought the game I bought the game so it has to be good

1491
01:37:53,950 --> 01:37:56,990
Or, like, the number of fucking posts

1492
01:37:56,990 --> 01:38:00,830
in the Marathon subreddit being like,

1493
01:38:00,950 --> 01:38:02,730
I just played the game this free weekend.

1494
01:38:03,130 --> 01:38:04,930
Like, dude, the numbers don't support this.

1495
01:38:04,930 --> 01:38:07,630
Am I saying that, you know, that person's a liar?

1496
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:10,450
Not necessarily, because they really could be telling the truth.

1497
01:38:10,450 --> 01:38:19,110
however i actually have a personal anecdote for this i used to spend a lot of money in in gacha

1498
01:38:19,110 --> 01:38:23,090
games uh or well i've had i still have moments but like for the most part i used to spend a lot

1499
01:38:23,090 --> 01:38:28,470
more though and when i first started spending in these games back in the day back before uh you

1500
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:34,470
know the genshin of it all um i it used to make me enjoy those games so much more or fuck even

1501
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:39,130
black desert online when i spent money in black desert online made me feel fucking good about

1502
01:38:39,130 --> 01:38:44,150
playing the game it's like yeah now i'm invested so i kind of get it i kind of get where that comes

1503
01:38:44,150 --> 01:38:50,350
from i think right it's part of being an adult in the modern day uh learning to not feel like that

1504
01:38:50,350 --> 01:38:56,770
and learning to split that be like i spent money in gension impact it's a shit fucking game if i

1505
01:38:56,770 --> 01:39:01,670
were still playing it it's like if i were still playing it would i still be spending money on it

1506
01:39:01,670 --> 01:39:08,950
yes but i'll still tell you it's a garbage game that's that's maturity right there if nothing

1507
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:14,150
sorry sorry i really had to say it was a straight face but like you have a point i get it i get it

1508
01:39:14,150 --> 01:39:18,230
i still been trying to find time to play nte i i haven't quit i just don't have time to play

1509
01:39:18,230 --> 01:39:26,190
but it's i like it a lot i just haven't had time yeah oh you know you may want to wait no no you're

1510
01:39:26,190 --> 01:39:32,370
you weren't talking about enfield never mind no enfield's too factory for me like i enfield also

1511
01:39:32,370 --> 01:39:37,670
had some rocky hiccups i i don't quote me on this because i don't know the i wasn't playing

1512
01:39:37,670 --> 01:39:40,830
when it happened so i don't know exactly but i heard reports that like one of their patches

1513
01:39:40,830 --> 01:39:47,710
lasted like two months or something like that they had some hiccups um which is really sad

1514
01:39:47,710 --> 01:39:53,430
because i think the game had really solid combat like it actually felt fun to fucking play it kind

1515
01:39:53,430 --> 01:39:57,730
of reminded me almost slightly like uh the tales of games it was like scarlet nexus to me like

1516
01:39:57,730 --> 01:40:02,570
that's that's the scarlet nexus gameplay it wasn't quite tales of to be fair but like it was it felt

1517
01:40:02,570 --> 01:40:04,870
fun. I was like, oh shit, this is kind of

1518
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:06,630
unique in a way where I don't

1519
01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:08,770
feel like it's ripping on Genshin.

1520
01:40:08,870 --> 01:40:10,590
I mean, there's a lot of people who would still think

1521
01:40:10,590 --> 01:40:12,690
that, but having played all these

1522
01:40:12,690 --> 01:40:14,630
different kinds of systems, I was like, oh no,

1523
01:40:14,690 --> 01:40:16,730
I feel this is different. Nice.

1524
01:40:17,390 --> 01:40:18,610
But it

1525
01:40:18,610 --> 01:40:20,230
just wasn't enough

1526
01:40:20,230 --> 01:40:22,650
else going on. I was like, yeah, it's alright.

1527
01:40:23,170 --> 01:40:24,590
You're going to have to go back to DNA here soon,

1528
01:40:24,590 --> 01:40:25,690
though. I know.

1529
01:40:26,490 --> 01:40:28,430
I think about it a lot.

1530
01:40:30,410 --> 01:40:32,150
Have we talked about the hacks?

1531
01:40:32,570 --> 01:40:34,410
Yeah, has that been anything we've brought up?

1532
01:40:34,670 --> 01:40:44,290
I think we briefly mentioned it, because I was talking, it was when NTE came out, it was like, oh yeah, I finally got DNA running on my Steam Deck, but it doesn't work all that well.

1533
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:51,470
But NTE came out at the same time, and it works really well, and so I was like, I guess I'll just play NTE.

1534
01:40:52,030 --> 01:40:53,410
It's more up my alley anyway.

1535
01:40:54,850 --> 01:40:57,210
But that was around the same time.

1536
01:40:57,970 --> 01:40:59,230
What even was that about?

1537
01:40:59,230 --> 01:41:03,730
Yeah, I mean, I still don't fully know the full story.

1538
01:41:03,730 --> 01:41:05,570
Obviously, I wasn't playing during the hack.

1539
01:41:05,570 --> 01:41:11,730
But like, from what I understand, a guy hacked and made some accusations

1540
01:41:11,730 --> 01:41:25,132
that the dev studio were actually these other people The people they weren saying they basically weren who they said they were Oh And he insinuated that they had all this bullshit

1541
01:41:25,632 --> 01:41:27,252
like everything was fully AI

1542
01:41:27,252 --> 01:41:29,372
genned from the story to everything,

1543
01:41:29,992 --> 01:41:31,092
and that

1544
01:41:31,092 --> 01:41:32,872
they were basically a skeleton crew

1545
01:41:32,872 --> 01:41:35,092
looking to siphon and scam

1546
01:41:35,092 --> 01:41:36,232
everybody.

1547
01:41:37,572 --> 01:41:39,472
Paraphrasing here, because it's been a bit,

1548
01:41:40,192 --> 01:41:40,352
but

1549
01:41:40,352 --> 01:41:43,152
as far as I'm aware, it turns out

1550
01:41:43,152 --> 01:41:44,412
a dude was a total schizo.

1551
01:41:45,052 --> 01:41:50,372
He basically found a back door and then hallucinated when he wrote the message.

1552
01:41:51,252 --> 01:41:51,652
Interesting.

1553
01:41:52,672 --> 01:41:54,552
I mean, there's no evidence.

1554
01:41:54,692 --> 01:41:55,932
And he didn't post no evidence either.

1555
01:41:56,672 --> 01:41:58,332
So it's like, that's kind of fucking weird.

1556
01:41:58,332 --> 01:42:01,112
And I'm like, sitting there thinking, like, I went through the story and I'm like,

1557
01:42:01,572 --> 01:42:03,432
that story was fucking good.

1558
01:42:03,892 --> 01:42:07,052
It did not come off very AI written to me.

1559
01:42:07,152 --> 01:42:08,512
I mean, they may have used AI to help them.

1560
01:42:08,592 --> 01:42:09,152
Who the fuck knows?

1561
01:42:09,632 --> 01:42:13,252
But like, it was definitely not chat GPT, write me a story.

1562
01:42:13,252 --> 01:42:15,872
yeah never really is

1563
01:42:15,872 --> 01:42:18,692
I was like what the fuck are you talking about

1564
01:42:18,692 --> 01:42:20,552
man like if you're gonna say something like that

1565
01:42:20,552 --> 01:42:21,812
you better back it up

1566
01:42:21,812 --> 01:42:24,472
because everything makes you look like a

1567
01:42:24,472 --> 01:42:25,992
total fucking schizo right now

1568
01:42:25,992 --> 01:42:28,612
we don't believe in backing up our claims

1569
01:42:28,612 --> 01:42:29,872
this is the internet

1570
01:42:29,872 --> 01:42:31,772
yeah because as far as I'm aware

1571
01:42:31,772 --> 01:42:34,012
the studio was a relatively new studio

1572
01:42:34,012 --> 01:42:36,492
they weren't like very experienced devs

1573
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:38,312
which is why they got hacked the way they did

1574
01:42:38,312 --> 01:42:40,592
they didn't really have

1575
01:42:40,592 --> 01:42:41,752
a whole crap load of support

1576
01:42:41,752 --> 01:42:46,432
and you know what because they dropped the gacha they're not making millions of millions of dollars

1577
01:42:46,432 --> 01:42:50,772
the same way these other games are so they don't really get the resources to fully jump you know

1578
01:42:50,772 --> 01:42:56,232
and fix things on a dime so it's like everything kind of just points to them being small

1579
01:42:56,232 --> 01:43:01,192
devs like a smaller studio i won't say indie necessarily i believe they have a publisher but

1580
01:43:01,192 --> 01:43:06,552
i don't um it's been a hot minute i don't remember exactly so it's like it really just

1581
01:43:06,552 --> 01:43:10,552
i guys stretch my head like i almost feel like people are again people were mad at it because

1582
01:43:10,552 --> 01:43:13,332
it was very similar to warframe in some ways.

1583
01:43:14,392 --> 01:43:16,412
It was also very different in other ways too.

1584
01:43:16,572 --> 01:43:19,292
Like I always, I hate that fucking argument.

1585
01:43:19,452 --> 01:43:23,552
They're like, oh, well, this shares animations with dark souls.

1586
01:43:23,552 --> 01:43:27,772
And I have to fucking like pull out the fucking, the sign and tap it.

1587
01:43:28,012 --> 01:43:31,792
Like they use fucking, well, not only do they use libraries,

1588
01:43:31,952 --> 01:43:35,912
but a lot of these big companies will resell their assets to libraries.

1589
01:43:35,912 --> 01:43:38,732
I remember I had the argument

1590
01:43:38,732 --> 01:43:40,592
Warframe doesn't do that

1591
01:43:40,592 --> 01:43:43,152
That might be why Warframe takes 6 months

1592
01:43:43,152 --> 01:43:43,892
To push an update

1593
01:43:43,892 --> 01:43:47,112
No shade to Warframe

1594
01:43:47,112 --> 01:43:48,572
I don't want to

1595
01:43:48,572 --> 01:43:50,692
That's not like I'm talking shit

1596
01:43:50,692 --> 01:43:51,252
I don't know

1597
01:43:51,252 --> 01:43:54,192
I don't think it would be a bad thing for Warframe

1598
01:43:54,192 --> 01:43:56,192
To use library assets to help them

1599
01:43:56,192 --> 01:43:57,972
Push things maybe a little faster

1600
01:43:57,972 --> 01:43:58,832
Here and there

1601
01:43:58,832 --> 01:44:02,192
Or hell to sell their assets if nothing else

1602
01:44:02,192 --> 01:44:03,652
So that way they make more money

1603
01:44:03,652 --> 01:44:09,212
and perhaps allow them to hire on more cool ass voice actors or something i don't know

1604
01:44:09,212 --> 01:44:12,752
but i mean realistically they're doing all right they don't necessarily need to do it

1605
01:44:12,752 --> 01:44:19,452
i just but yeah effectively at the end of the day dna looks like i've seen the trailers they

1606
01:44:19,452 --> 01:44:24,632
look like they've cooked um so i'm kind of excited to go back to that eventually i'll get to it

1607
01:44:24,632 --> 01:44:30,792
eventually um if they had hacked anymore either so that's good that's good because like i heard

1608
01:44:30,792 --> 01:44:34,692
about the hack and I'm like, oh man, key loggers, like that's sketchy.

1609
01:44:35,072 --> 01:44:38,472
Um, but all that other stuff, I had never heard that before at all.

1610
01:44:38,692 --> 01:44:39,572
That's crazy.

1611
01:44:39,672 --> 01:44:39,972
Yeah.

1612
01:44:39,972 --> 01:44:43,112
So there was three hacks that I heard about, I guess I'll just quickly run them

1613
01:44:43,112 --> 01:44:45,532
over so that I've heard, uh, parody.

1614
01:44:46,012 --> 01:44:48,712
Uh, the first one was just a post where dude was like, yo, I hacked your

1615
01:44:48,712 --> 01:45:00,294
fucking server Here the landing page where I I sketch out a second one Um I believe there wasn really much of an indication uh i believe the studio had to let everyone know what happened which

1616
01:45:00,294 --> 01:45:03,454
went on them for addressing it actually they go they could have just kept their mouth shut

1617
01:45:03,454 --> 01:45:08,994
and people found out about it six months later uh and that was the key logger i think the third hack

1618
01:45:08,994 --> 01:45:13,794
i don't actually know what happened i don't think i i don't think it was widely talked about

1619
01:45:13,794 --> 01:45:19,094
what actually happened um not wide enough that if you weren't playing the game you wouldn't know

1620
01:45:19,094 --> 01:45:26,834
kind of know well i'll get to it eventually yeah um if it has cross save that would be dope because

1621
01:45:26,834 --> 01:45:32,874
like that kind of a game would be really fun to play on my xbox in my living room it must because

1622
01:45:32,874 --> 01:45:37,694
i believe it has cross play i mean this doesn't necessarily mean cross save but like i know a lot

1623
01:45:37,694 --> 01:45:42,434
of these other gacha games do um also i think that's another part of sony's strategy right is

1624
01:45:42,434 --> 01:45:46,874
like they got like a lot more gotcha games on their platform than xbox does and i don't think

1625
01:45:46,874 --> 01:45:51,494
that's uh xbox's fault necessarily it's more of the developers are you know going where the people

1626
01:45:51,494 --> 01:45:59,394
are and that doesn't seem to be xbox sony i think is a larger company in china than microsoft is at

1627
01:45:59,394 --> 01:46:04,954
least on the xbox side of things i think that's all that is because i would love to play dna or

1628
01:46:04,954 --> 01:46:12,034
nte on the xbox but uh i haven't looked for nte and maybe it's on there maybe it's not um but like

1629
01:46:12,034 --> 01:46:13,714
I don't think DNA's on there either.

1630
01:46:14,214 --> 01:46:16,994
And it would be much nicer to just play that from my couch.

1631
01:46:17,094 --> 01:46:19,554
Because like, ZZZ's on there.

1632
01:46:19,774 --> 01:46:21,054
I thought about reinstalling that.

1633
01:46:22,114 --> 01:46:24,114
I don't dislike the ZZZ story.

1634
01:46:24,274 --> 01:46:25,014
I just need to catch up.

1635
01:46:25,854 --> 01:46:27,934
I'm still in version one territory.

1636
01:46:28,274 --> 01:46:30,374
I didn't complete all the stuff that was at launch.

1637
01:46:31,314 --> 01:46:35,534
So I have lots of story to do if I were to get back into that.

1638
01:46:36,894 --> 01:46:38,074
But I still have my login.

1639
01:46:38,174 --> 01:46:39,074
I got it working on my computer.

1640
01:46:39,354 --> 01:46:39,994
I just never play.

1641
01:46:39,994 --> 01:46:44,854
i think it's the daily login is what the real hang-up because i guess i don't daily login to

1642
01:46:44,854 --> 01:46:49,934
games anymore i don't have time there's a lot of there's there'll be stretches of days where i don't

1643
01:46:49,934 --> 01:46:55,334
play anything you know i mean there's a lot of the boys that are like that too uh so i i think it's

1644
01:46:55,334 --> 01:47:03,314
fair we grew up got jobs got jobs and shit man so it's like i'd rather play like no man's sky or

1645
01:47:03,314 --> 01:47:08,374
something where it's just like uh oh yeah you want to play here's some stuff oh you don't want to

1646
01:47:08,374 --> 01:47:12,634
play every day that's fine you're not gonna get anything out of it anyway um and everything's

1647
01:47:12,634 --> 01:47:17,274
achievable that's just the i think that's the best thing about what they did with dna because

1648
01:47:17,274 --> 01:47:22,934
just fucking i like i don't feel bad that i stopped playing it i'll just go back and everything's just

1649
01:47:22,934 --> 01:47:30,314
gonna be there yeah and uh nte does not have that thing like um nte is still traditional gotcha

1650
01:47:30,314 --> 01:47:38,854
yeah it i think nte unconventional genre yeah i think nte will be okay in that context i mean

1651
01:47:38,854 --> 01:47:44,094
you're not gonna be able to push the end game if you don't play daily but i also believe that like

1652
01:47:44,094 --> 01:47:51,014
the other fun aspects of the game will probably survive just fine um i believe all the new events

1653
01:47:51,014 --> 01:47:54,614
they just added that are like new different avenues of gameplay i think they're all permanent

1654
01:47:54,614 --> 01:47:57,374
the event portion is just like some extra

1655
01:47:57,374 --> 01:47:57,874
rewards.

1656
01:47:59,654 --> 01:48:01,014
They're on the right track.

1657
01:48:02,874 --> 01:48:03,314
But DNA

1658
01:48:03,314 --> 01:48:05,374
is like, it's so

1659
01:48:05,374 --> 01:48:06,594
soulful, you know?

1660
01:48:07,274 --> 01:48:08,074
It's nice.

1661
01:48:08,914 --> 01:48:11,454
Well, anyways, fellas, we blew

1662
01:48:11,454 --> 01:48:13,434
our golden ratio for time. Is there anything else

1663
01:48:13,434 --> 01:48:15,394
that we really need to

1664
01:48:15,394 --> 01:48:16,294
cover before we go?

1665
01:48:17,314 --> 01:48:19,254
I don't think so. I don't think we forgot anything.

1666
01:48:19,894 --> 01:48:21,294
So, we'll let Vic

1667
01:48:21,294 --> 01:48:23,034
get back to his big black coffee

1668
01:48:23,034 --> 01:48:26,514
and we'll see you all on the next one.

1669
01:48:26,734 --> 01:48:27,234
Bye.