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The problem is that our beef industry is under attack, and people don't realize that.

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If you look at tyranny, when tyranny pops up around the world throughout history,

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what's the first thing that they go after?

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It's the food system.

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And when we've seen dictators rise, when we've seen communism rise,

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it's the food that they attack first, they wipe out, and then they have total control

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because if people can't eat, they can't fight back.

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The plan is 3D printed meat and crickets.

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This is the opt-out of that system, and I don't think anybody's excited about that system.

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So if you're excited about not eating crickets and 3D printed beef,

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then come help us out at the Beef Initiative.

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Let's be a catalyst for this change.

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Let's save the ranchers.

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Let's protect our beef heritage all over the world.

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And I don't think it's hyperbole at all or woo-woo at all.

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Let's actually save humanity this way.

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We're at a critical point that if we go any further, we're going to lose it.

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We look at the entire macro system of the world global financial system,

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and as Bitcoiners, we see it teetering.

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We know that one country going down can take down all the currencies of all the countries.

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Same with ranching.

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We're in a precarious situation and the time is now.

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This acquisition happened when it happened.

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Thank goodness it happened.

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It gives us a place to actually recreate a whole new system that's backed by Bitcoin,

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a re-incentivized system that can help save ranchers now.

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That's the market up to me.

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The danger?

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It's extreme.

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I'm putting myself at danger talking to you today.

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Greetings and salutations, my fellow plebs.

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My name is Walker, and this is The Bitcoin Podcast.

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I am coming to you live here with Tom Tabor of The Beef Initiative.

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Tom, before we get into kind of some of the announcements today,

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some of the other stories we're going to tell today, how the heck are you?

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I'm doing amazing, Walker. It's so good to see you.

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I hope we get to see each other in person again soon.

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Yeah, it's been a little bit too long, but I have a feeling we'll end up together again soon.

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I think so, too.

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You just came back from El Salvador. Where are you broadcasting to us from right now?

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We're broadcasting from Mark Chapman's 3C Ranch in Heiko, Texas, and I'm currently in his Amazing the Leather Shop.

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It's kind of a temple of leather where he's a master craftsman of leather tooling, an educator, a rancher.

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Been walking around his ranch today. It's been really nice.

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I can't say I've ever been on what I imagine is a massive ranch like that.

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How many head of cattle does he have?

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It's hundreds, but I'm not sure the exact number.

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Okay.

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Well, it's good to have you here.

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I appreciate you choosing the Bitcoin podcast to bring this announcement out.

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I think this is going to be a really interesting show for people.

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I think that people are going to learn a lot.

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I think this is a really important topic.

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and just generally really excited to have you on here

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and to be talking about what you guys are doing.

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So I think it looks like we are, I believe we are good to go.

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I think we are live everywhere.

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I'm just double checking to make absolutely sure.

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But I believe we are totally good to go.

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Let me make sure this is also on Noster and it's live there.

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Let's see.

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We should be solid.

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But, all right, and I think we are, yeah, we are live everywhere.

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So, Tom, we are here. We are broadcasting live across Noster X, YouTube, Rumble.

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I think Twitch also. If any of the Twitch streamers happen to tune in for some beef education, we'll see.

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But, okay, I think where we need to start here is by setting the tone for folks about why we're having this conversation today.

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And also, there's some news that basically just broke that we're going to cover with regard to the beef industry.

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But I think before we talk about basically how what's changing in the beef industry, excuse me, after today, what we need to talk about is actually what is broken in the beef industry.

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Because I don't think we were talking about a little bit of this before the show.

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I don't think most people really have a clue about how messed up this system is.

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So can we maybe start there a little bit?

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Can you give us just a little bit of a background of what is so broken in the beef industry that this even needs fixing?

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People get their beef at the store.

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Everything seems fine.

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What are people missing about what's rotten?

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What's the scam in the beef industry?

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Yeah, the problem is that our beef industry is under attack and people don't realize that.

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As Bitcoiners, people are always eating carnivore.

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We're looking for grass-fed, grass-finished beef, but there's way more behind that.

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And just at the grocery store, there's an attack right there.

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The mislabeling of beef is rampant.

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The beef you're buying is not necessarily American beef,

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and you're not getting the quality that you think you're getting.

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Everybody's buying beef by the pound,

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but we're not getting the quality that we actually really expect.

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And what's happening on the ground for ranchers is

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that they're under attack from many different ways.

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They're part of government subsidies.

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So in order to be a rancher, you sign up for a program.

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You have to follow the rules of that program.

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Those programs are run and dictated by big corporations.

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There's four corporations that are responsible distributing and buying and trading 85% of the beef in America.

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And people don't know that it's centralized.

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It's captured.

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And they set the price at the market.

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The ranchers do everything they can to raise the best beef.

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When they bring it to the auction house, they get the price they're told they get.

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It's not supply and demand.

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So it's quite cruel to them.

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They're knocked out of that.

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And then when they get the cows, they actually just overfeed them with corn, with things that aren't good for them, that give them metabolic disease, fatten them up so they're marbled.

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But when they die, they're about to die from being mistreated, actually.

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And it's quite awful what's going on there.

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We just announced – there are things going on in the government that look positive.

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They've just announced that there's a regenerative – $700 million for regenerative agriculture.

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But is that going to get captured too?

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there's a good chance the government's not doing it exactly right and helping the little guys out.

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It's going to go to the big boys.

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So we're here to do something different, to give ranchers a chance.

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We're here to teach them about Bitcoin because they don't necessarily know what that is.

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It just sounds like Internet money.

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And they aren't sure exactly the money they're working for.

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Is that really money or is that just debt coupons?

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Yeah, I think there's two pieces to this education here.

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One is kind of educating, let's say, both normies and Bitcoiners and everyone in between about the scam that is the beef industry.

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The other piece of this is educating folks, ranchers, independent cattle ranchers in the beef industry about Bitcoin.

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And it seems like the beef initiative with all the work that Texas Slim has been doing, you're now an executive director there.

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So you're working on this too.

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But that's really about bridging that gap, right, and figuring out how both of these – one, this technology and also this group of really important ranchers can kind of have this symbiotic relationship where this matchup really makes sense.

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Is that fair to say that that's kind of the crossover there is that this is – these are two areas that can really benefit and help each other in meaningful ways?

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It's really true.

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And I met Slim in the second Beef Initiative event he ever had in Crawford, Texas at Jason Rick's Ranch.

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It was an amazing conglomeration of ranchers and Bitcoiners coming together.

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And we got to shake each other's hands and get to know each other.

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And it's like, wow, there's actually an opportunity here that's never been done before.

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Slim has done an amazing amount of research just being on the road for the last seven years

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and collecting data, talking to ranchers, building his network of experts around the

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world that really know what they're doing and advising.

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And that was really the genesis for me, an introduction to the Beef Initiative and just

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In the last many months, I've come on and joined Slim in this mission, been by his side for 24 hours for several months now,

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and in pickup trucks all around Texas and on flights to El Salvador and travel around the country.

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And there's been a lot that's gone on in that time.

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Okay, so maybe, and I want to get into also what's happening down in El Salvador.

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There's a lot of stuff here, but I think maybe it's worthwhile for us to go a little bit deeper onto the kind of the scam, the manipulation.

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the just, I mean, kind of the abuse of the beef industry today.

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So can you talk about it at a high level?

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I don't think people understand how centralized this industry is.

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If we're talking about the big players in this, they don't understand how controlled it is.

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And that it's not just these kind of, you know, pseudo monopolies,

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but it's also the government interference side of things.

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And that's just like a revolving door, basically, right?

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So can you talk about that a little bit to set the stage for folks as to why this is so messed up?

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Not just in terms of the beef that you're eating and the quality of it,

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But actually why that happens way upstream.

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It really does.

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And where it really happens is at the processing plant.

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So a rancher like this wonderful ranch I'm on today, they can raise great beef.

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But when they take it to the slaughterhouse, that it's actually, then it goes into the hands of the big four corporations that really are centralized, really set everything that happens there.

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And if they haven't followed the rules they've been mandated to follow according to government programs, then their beef doesn't get bought.

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They're shut out of the system.

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So they have to follow certain rules, certain immunization schedules, things like that.

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They have to use feeding schedules.

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And in processes they don't necessarily think are the best, but they have to do it to follow the rules in order to be part of the system.

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And that's really where the capture is.

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And once it goes in the process, it's out of their hands.

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The processors will actually use that beef to get the highest price for them, but not necessarily the highest quality for the consumers.

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And that's where the capture is. And it's the ranchers. It's not necessarily droughts that are hurting ranchers. It's actually the financial system. And that's where the real pain comes in. That's what's really crushing. And it's causing 57 ranches a day to go under. 57. So we're losing our ranches. We're losing them forever. And I don't know if we can ever get them back.

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They are under attack from that side.

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They're also under attack just for keeping a hold of their land.

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So their land is under attack just to taxation, just to development coming in.

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If you look around the Austin area, Austin's expanding so fast that if you're a rancher on the edges of Austin,

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the temptation to sell and go into a huge development project is too great.

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And heritage ranches that have been around forever can't continue.

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Up in the panhandle, it's even worse.

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There's that, but there's also huge AI installations that are going in place that are taking over the land there, that are taking the water in order to run those AIs.

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And so they're replacing our food security within this nation with capture of the land, capture of the resources, capture of the ranchers, that if they don't play by the rules, they get decimated.

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And the suicide rate of ranchers right now is greater than our veterans.

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And the veterans, as we know, are suffering, suffering so greatly.

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So it's people's lives are in danger, communities are in danger, and our national security is in danger as a result of this as well.

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So that stat is kind of mind-blowing in terms of the suicides.

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Like I had no idea about that.

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Obviously, the situation with our veterans is already deplorable.

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Yes, absolutely.

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It's a national embarrassment in my mind.

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The people who put their lives up to go and fight for our country, like those are people that we need to take care of.

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and on the other hand now you've got you've got ranchers who are are committing their lives to uh

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to something to something different but also incredibly important which is making sure that

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people have quality food to put in their bodies yeah and i think especially right now with everything

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happening with the you know kind of uh robert f kennedy and all this stuff that's being exposed

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at least the food pyramid finally got flipped right that's a huge benefit years nobody's nobody's

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really like i feel like there's been almost a war on healthy food there's been a lot of healthy

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health food out there, but not actual healthy food. So, I mean, how deep does this go? How far

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back does this go? I mean, and like, how did it even get so bad like it is today?

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It goes back to the 1930s, to be honest. That's when ag subsidies really came into play.

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And ever since then, the whole ag industry has been addicted to ag subsidies from the government.

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And that was one point. Another point was, guess when? Early 70s. Why would that be?

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That's when the whole debasement or the decoupling of the U.S. dollar from gold happened.

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And there was a push to have cheaper food.

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So we're going through massive inflation in the early 70s by design through engineered monetary debasement.

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And that cheapening of food caused an addiction to these subsidies that has been just captured the entire industry.

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The other thing is the average age of a rancher right now, a cattle rancher, is 67 years old.

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The kids aren't taking over the ranch because they're going to the city to get the big tech job, to get all that, and leaving the ranch behind.

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And so that's a huge, huge problem as well.

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And we would love to welcome the young people back to the ranch, be close to the land, be working the land, be regenerating the land and the soil in a positive way.

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And we can do that through these amazing land tools called cattle.

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So that's kind of wild in terms of that average age, right?

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I mean, that's like you basically you've got people who've been doing this their whole lives, but there's nobody coming in to basically refresh that crop of ranchers, so to speak.

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These are heritage ranches that we're losing forever.

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And you can imagine if you're the steward of your family's ranch and then you lose it, there's the suicide right there.

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You're the kid that messed up.

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How devastating is that?

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I mean, it's frankly just like it's messed up, right?

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I mean, this is – okay. Can we talk a little bit about the USDA and how kind of that contributes to this whole thing?

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Because it's one thing for – oh, people might want to blame this just on the big greedy corporations, but it's like the reason that those corporations are able to exert such influence becomes so centralized.

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It's all about that regulatory moat, right? It's about that regulatory capture and the influence that they have there.

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So can we dig into that a little bit as well?

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Who sets the rules for our regulations? Is it our lawmakers? Are the lawmakers doing it for the people? Or does it the corporations that get regulated that set the rules? And that's what's really happened here. So the rules are set up to enforce this centralization, to enforce the big boys keep winning the game and the little guys to be wiped out in the process. So that's one aspect of it. But there's much more.

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I mean, well, and maybe it's worth we can, I think what we should maybe do now is we should talk a little bit about, we can get deeper into the problem as well.

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But I think you've set the tone well that there is this centralization, there is this regulatory moat and regulatory capture, that the beef that you're getting at the store is maybe not what you think it is, whether it's being soaked in water or it's saying, you know, American beef, but it's not actually in America.

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There's all this stuff here.

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There's all these problems.

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And I want to kind of get into some of each of those a little bit more deeply.

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But maybe first we should just touch on at least the solution.

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We should touch on the big news that came out just today, just released, I mean, a couple of hours ago, right before we went live here on this stream.

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Can you talk about what you guys are doing?

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And then we'll get back into some of these other problems and how this gets fixed.

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But talk about what you guys just announced today because I think it is really massive.

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It is.

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And thank you so much for amplifying the message to put it out there and also doing this right now as well.

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today texas slim the man alone is the sole owner of a domain known as beef.com and it was a battle

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to get this it was a lot of big players from around the world that wanted to get this the big

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guys wanted it the previous owners of this domain i don't know who they are but i know that they're

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wonderful people because they wanted to go into the right hands they wanted to help the independent

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ranchers and they trusted texas slim to be that man and so that was an amazing process it was about

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an 18-month battle for him personally to get through it and a lot of negotiations, a lot of,

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it was just an amazing transfer of this domain into hands that are going to treat it right.

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It's not centralizing it for money. It's actually centralizing the security of the independent

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ranchers. They now have a digital ranch that's safe, that's protected, that has a firewall

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fence around it to protect their data, to protect their processes so they don't go into the hands

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as big boys, that we actually have a chance to do regenerative agriculture right in America

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and around the world because this is a global domain.

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This is the Michael Saylor of beef is what it is.

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It really is.

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I like that.

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And I mean, this for folks who don't know, like this is a big deal to get a domain like

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this.

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Can you kind of talk about the extent?

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Because I think people might just think, oh, it's a website.

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Cool.

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You know, what's the big deal?

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Right.

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We could have, you know, ElSalvadorBeef.com.

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And the longer your domain name is, the less valuable it is.

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You can grab that for $14 probably off of GoDaddy or someplace like that.

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But a very short English name is highly valuable.

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Michael Saylor has Hope.com.

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Texas Slim has Beef.com.

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Four letters, super, super valuable.

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What it also does is it gives authority.

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It's a place where people can go, oh, these are actually the real guys that know what they're talking about that are here for the people.

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And it's a place that we have an open map for people to participate in whatever they want.

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We have an open door for independent ranches. We have an open door for consumers that are concerned with healthy food. Where can I acquire that? People that are concerned with regenerative agriculture and how can we actually restore our land back to fertile soils without using fertilizers, actually using cows as the best tool to build soil. And I've seen it with my own eyes on ranches in Colorado and in Texas.

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now in davos and i mean that's really what you know uh old you know may he he's not known there

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but the old klaus schwab with wanting people to eat the bugs and be happy yeah like this is we've

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been in kind of this weird like this weird simulation world where it's like 1984 you know

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up up is down right is wrong truth is lies you know right and and i feel like we've gotten so

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far away from just basic common sense and things that worked for many many many generations really

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really well and allowed people to eat good, clean, healthy food and to not absolutely ravage the land

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in the process. I want to get into some of the regenerative side of things too, but maybe can we

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get into a little bit more detail about what is the plan for utilizing this new domain in terms of

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what does this actually enable and why does this kind of matter for the industry? How does this fix

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some of the problems you touched on earlier, which we'll get into a little bit more depth on later on?

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Absolutely. So as I was mentioning, ranchers, when they go to the slaughterhouse, they don't have a chance to set the price. They're just told, here's your price today. And it's devastating. But now we have a new marketplace, an exchange where actually independent ranchers can come and they can actually buy and sell and trade their cattle in a place that's safe, secure, where there's actually an open and free market of supply and demand that actually is honest and fair and backed by Bitcoin, true, honest, sound money as well.

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And so is that really the core plan here?

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Is it is creating a marketplace for this?

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It's a marketplace, but it's much more than that.

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So for quite a while the Beef Initiative has been exposing the lies So if you want to go back through our whole feed we talk about all the problems with the beef industry in great detail And the problems with mislabeling of beef and country of origin is another huge problem

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We think we're getting American beef.

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Is it really?

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Probably not.

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And there's ways you can find that out.

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What is the beef patty that you're actually eating?

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Is that from one cow?

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Not likely.

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It could be hundreds or even thousands of cows in one single beef patty.

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so when you get it from an independent rancher you're getting it from like i know it's rather

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disgusting it's vats and vats of cows that's globed up and talk about 1984 that's the that's

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the awful thing you don't want to ever see how the sausage is made you know and so getting it

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more direct getting it clean and pure and natural getting it nutrient dense that's where it's really

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at a nutrient dense product so there's an exchange there's um there's more that can just be exchanged

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than just beef. Beef is really an energy cycle. So it's actually sunlight to grass with rain and

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soil that goes into a cow. It can remediate problems with damaged land and actually go from

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just this much topsoil to eight inches of black chocolate cake-like soil that's rich with biology,

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with the microbiome of the soil. And if you dump a bunch of chemicals on there that come from

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foreign countries, you're just killing all that microbiome and you're actually killing the land.

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It's actually cows that are the tool that does that right.

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So we have information on that.

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We have information on health.

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And we're also open to ideas.

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We just launched our website today.

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There's all that's there is a 22-minute video that explains what we're doing that also has a place to put your email in there.

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And we invite you to include your email and give us your ideas.

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It's a digital ranch.

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And on a ranch, you have a lot of different activities that are productive.

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We want to hear your productive ideas, and we want to be part of those things that are best for the people.

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So it's a place for the people to regain sovereignty over their food system, their food security, and their freedom, their actual sovereignty.

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And to clarify, this is not a digital real estate like in the NFT sense, right?

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No.

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No.

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Just had to be clear for everybody.

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That's very true.

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And, you know, Texas Slim's been a Bitcoiner for a long time, and he believes in that technology.

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And he's trying to bridge that gap between sound money and sound regenerative ranching practices as well.

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What we're actually doing to try to make the beef better, to make the cows live the healthiest, most productive life.

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And then they just have one single bad day and they don't ever know it's coming.

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So their consciousness is safe in that as well.

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It's nice.

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Okay, so we've sort of got a little bit into identifying the problem, but we've talked about a little bit of the solution as well.

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I wanted to make sure we got this in just kind of in the first part of this stream here in this episode.

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It'll be broadcast out everywhere after the fact, just so that people at least get some of that dense information right at the start.

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And so you can go check out beef.com.

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It'll redirect you right now to the landing page that you guys have as you guys are building out this site.

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But let's go.

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Okay.

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Now that we've done that, let's take a step back a little bit.

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Why does beef even matter?

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Why should people even care?

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I know.

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I know.

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It's a really, really good question.

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I don't think people understand that.

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So the government just flipped the food pyramid.

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So they said saturated fats for all of our lives.

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Those are really bad.

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And then fruits, vegetables, and grains are the top thing that humans can do to help their bodies.

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But what are our brains made of?

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They're made of fat.

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And what's the best thing for those brains?

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Saturated fat.

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It was just told by our government, it said saturated fat is the best thing we can possibly eat.

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What has the highest saturated fat on Earth?

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It's beef.

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It's beef.

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And nothing else. Everything else is a far, far distance from that. So it is the actual food

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that's healthy for our brains. It's healthy for our bodies. It actually, it's, it's the food of

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life. Beef. It's the food of life. I like that. And okay. So beef matters. Like, you know, we now

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have returned a little bit of sanity to the food pyramid, even though it was a bit of a South Park

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meme, you know, just flip it upside down, which is just beautiful, you know, life imitating satire.

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but it's true like at least there's some recognition that hey turns out and i think this is where maybe

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it's it's worth going back into the problem a little bit so much of it comes back to these

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massive government subsidy programs which completely broke incentives so can we go a little bit deeper

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on that you touched on it earlier but i think it really bears repeating because this is one of those

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market distortions that people may think oh god what's the worst that could happen right that's

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the government's just helping the industry that needs it but it's a market distortion and it ends

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up causing more harm than good. So let's go a little bit deeper on that. What more can you tell

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us about how it got so bad as it is today? It got bad because fiat is an addiction and fiat is not

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real money, as we know as Bitcoiners, that the addiction is, hey, I'm struggling as a rancher.

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I need to sign up for next year's program. What's the program going to be? What I need to do to

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qualify for that program? And what guidelines do I need to follow? So it's a capture. It's a

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fiat capture. And it's misallocation of capital, as Bitcoiners who know this as well, that when you

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have money that anybody can print for free, but everybody else has to work really hard for it,

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well, the ones working really hard are the independent ranchers. And they're working

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really, really hard to squeeze out every bit of value they can out of their entire operations.

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They have very tight processes and procedures, input controls of what the cows are eating,

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and then also the whole processing of that is super important to them.

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And when you have misallocated capital,

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it disincentivizes good behavior in all ways.

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And it creates a problem that's pernicious,

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that's embedded, and that captures people in ways

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they don't understand necessarily.

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And that's a huge problem.

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It's a place where Bitcoiners have a lot of great information,

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but because Bitcoiners are the way they are,

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they can be kind of repellent to the ranchers, actually,

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because we say sometimes horrible things like have fun, stay poor,

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and things like that, which is not very useful for bringing new people in

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and helping them understand, hey, you've got a huge, huge problem,

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but us geeks over here on the Internet, we actually figured out the solution.

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This guy Satoshi, he actually came up with this magical money

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that's engineered money to help protect your capital.

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And ranchers understand capital very, very well.

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That's what it's all about is how do you have capital,

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how do you deploy that effectively, and how do you store capital?

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And out here in the fields, there's huge hails of bay, which is the stored capital for this winter.

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As the cows need to be kept fed, they've already pre-planned that with hay bales, and they can feed that throughout the winter.

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So introducing ranchers to the pristine capital of Bitcoin, and it's a way to protect their heritage, to protect their ranches, to go on for generations that they can actually pass it on, is an amazing benefit that they don't quite fully understand yet.

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and that we as Bitcoiners need to help guide them with that gently

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and with grace and with strength.

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Actually show up and deploy our Bitcoin in a way

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that we can actually make a difference in this world.

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Because we'll say things like, fix the money, fix the world.

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But there's a step in between those two.

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It's fix the money, do something really useful with that money,

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and then you can possibly fix the world.

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And this do something really useful, that's the part we're talking about.

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beef.com is a home, a place to boots on the ground. How can you actually help them understand and help

420
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deploy it? And Bitcoiners don't necessarily have to sell their Bitcoin to do that. There's other

421
00:30:13,087 --> 00:30:17,587
ways to use your Bitcoin that can be helpful without having to decrease your stack.

422
00:30:19,287 --> 00:30:21,187
Is it fair to say, because I'm just thinking of this, I mean,

423
00:30:21,747 --> 00:30:26,947
it seems that raising beef is just by its nature, a low time preference activity,

424
00:30:26,947 --> 00:30:31,447
like you're growing an animal. I mean, it seems that there's a really natural alignment

425
00:30:31,447 --> 00:30:36,447
in terms of just the frame with which these cattle ranchers are approaching life,

426
00:30:36,507 --> 00:30:37,507
that they're forced to approach that way.

427
00:30:37,547 --> 00:30:38,787
They have to think long term.

428
00:30:39,147 --> 00:30:39,947
They have to plan ahead.

429
00:30:39,987 --> 00:30:41,047
They can't think about the next minute.

430
00:30:41,107 --> 00:30:42,387
They have to think about long in the future.

431
00:30:42,647 --> 00:30:45,607
But it seems that because of all of this burdensome regulation,

432
00:30:45,607 --> 00:30:47,647
because of all the regulatory capture,

433
00:30:48,067 --> 00:30:51,167
they are forced to think much more, you know, right here, right now,

434
00:30:51,207 --> 00:30:52,627
instead of focusing on what they should be,

435
00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:57,187
which is the long term health of their cattle until they go to the slaughter.

436
00:30:57,287 --> 00:30:57,827
I mean, is that fair?

437
00:30:57,887 --> 00:31:00,867
But it seems that alignment is there with Bitcoin very naturally.

438
00:31:01,447 --> 00:31:07,167
It is. And actually, the funny parallel between ranching and Bitcoin is the cow life cycle.

439
00:31:07,347 --> 00:31:12,327
It's a four year cycle, just like the four year cycle and Bitcoin and having cycle as well.

440
00:31:12,487 --> 00:31:16,247
So there's that thing. But there's also a long term as well.

441
00:31:16,247 --> 00:31:22,427
If you talk about ranches that were really important in the industry, the ranch that's most important is the J.A. Ranch up in the panhandle.

442
00:31:22,527 --> 00:31:26,847
It was started by the most legendary of cowboys ever is Charles Goodnight.

443
00:31:27,347 --> 00:31:30,387
And Charles Goodnight came into an amazing canyon.

444
00:31:30,387 --> 00:31:53,067
He was a Texas ranger. So he was a guy out doing reconnaissance out in the field and found this canyon or this canyon was there. And he looked at it and says, this is actually the perfect ranch. At the time, there is a group of folks, the Comanches that were viciously, not viciously, but were defending their homeland. They were. And the U.S. government did many horrible things to them.

445
00:31:53,067 --> 00:31:57,447
and in that story the charles goodnight story is one that bitcoiners need to look at and understand

446
00:31:57,447 --> 00:32:02,487
who charles goodnight was and his time preference was so low that that ranch is still operating today

447
00:32:02,487 --> 00:32:08,647
it's still and that was the 1870s the early 1870s that he established that ranch with just six cattle

448
00:32:08,647 --> 00:32:14,907
and it grew to the largest most productive and you know what what ruined it all finance the british

449
00:32:14,907 --> 00:32:19,307
british financial system came in and that was actually where the the achilles heel of that

450
00:32:19,307 --> 00:32:25,987
entire ranch there was a british fan the ja is mr adair and he he took two-thirds of the profit

451
00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:29,707
away from the ranch but charles goodnight and his team did what did all the work and only got one

452
00:32:29,707 --> 00:32:35,147
third profit so the financial side of that ranch was the achilles heel of it for all this time

453
00:32:35,147 --> 00:32:41,727
is i mean is that the case with a lot of these older like i don't know you want to call them

454
00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:45,707
like legacy ranches that they've just been have they been forced to like they were operating

455
00:32:45,707 --> 00:32:51,047
obviously sustainably in both financially and like from an ecological standpoint for a while.

456
00:32:51,787 --> 00:32:56,467
Have they just been forced into kind of like, is this just one of the things that fiat has ruined?

457
00:32:56,627 --> 00:32:57,927
Is that what kind of what you're getting at here?

458
00:32:58,427 --> 00:33:03,067
It's ruined, but they've also, because cattlemen are so persistent that they have survived despite

459
00:33:03,067 --> 00:33:06,527
all the financial hardships that they've actually faced and all the hard work they've done.

460
00:33:07,327 --> 00:33:11,207
And if we look at, then these ranches, we also highlight through the Beef Initiative.

461
00:33:11,307 --> 00:33:13,527
So go and look into these stories, the XIT Ranch.

462
00:33:13,527 --> 00:33:23,647
It was the entire panhandle of Texas was given to some Chicago bankers in exchange for a building in the center of Texas, the Austin State Capitol, a huge, beautiful granite building.

463
00:33:24,587 --> 00:33:29,767
Texas was land rich and money poor at the time, so they traded the panhandle in exchange for a granite building.

464
00:33:30,027 --> 00:33:34,367
And it's a beautiful building. We just toured it, and it's quite phenomenal. That's one story.

465
00:33:34,787 --> 00:33:38,667
Another story is the King Ranch in South Texas where my family was doing ranching as well.

466
00:33:38,987 --> 00:33:41,487
And the King Ranch is a huge swath of land.

467
00:33:41,587 --> 00:33:45,787
It was purchased for pennies, like 20 cents an acre or something.

468
00:33:46,007 --> 00:33:50,367
And it's the size of a seventh of New Jersey.

469
00:33:50,547 --> 00:33:51,707
It's about the size of it.

470
00:33:51,747 --> 00:33:52,987
I'm not sure what that is in acres.

471
00:33:52,987 --> 00:33:55,407
But it's a huge ranch that still exists today.

472
00:33:55,627 --> 00:33:57,327
And it went through hardships as well.

473
00:33:57,667 --> 00:33:58,507
Yeah, you've heard of that one.

474
00:33:58,527 --> 00:33:59,627
And we were just touring that one.

475
00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:02,007
And it's an amazing ranch, an amazing story.

476
00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:04,987
It was a really hard, hot place to raise cattle.

477
00:34:04,987 --> 00:34:08,947
They tried to bring English cattle over that didn't do well there.

478
00:34:09,007 --> 00:34:12,147
So they built their whole breed by themselves called the Santa Gratutas.

479
00:34:12,587 --> 00:34:15,147
It's one of the most successful breeds in the world today.

480
00:34:15,327 --> 00:34:17,587
And they developed there on the King Ranch.

481
00:34:17,847 --> 00:34:19,327
And it's a phenomenal breed.

482
00:34:19,587 --> 00:34:22,027
And they would have been destroyed by finances as well.

483
00:34:22,127 --> 00:34:26,187
But they happened to find this substance underneath their property called oil.

484
00:34:26,627 --> 00:34:29,887
And it was actually oil that helped save the ranch in many ways.

485
00:34:30,007 --> 00:34:32,507
And so it's an amazing story as well.

486
00:34:32,507 --> 00:34:34,807
These are worth knowing about and worth looking into.

487
00:34:34,807 --> 00:34:37,947
This is the real cowboy heritage of our country, and it's worth knowing.

488
00:34:39,747 --> 00:34:45,307
So you mentioned some of these bigger ranches that have these kind of like well-known stories that you guys have covered through the Beef Initiative.

489
00:34:45,927 --> 00:34:47,767
What about the smaller ranchers, though?

490
00:34:47,987 --> 00:34:51,547
Because they're not the ones who necessarily have the big, you know, the long, super long history.

491
00:34:51,627 --> 00:34:53,847
Maybe they have a long history, but they don't have the notoriety.

492
00:34:54,027 --> 00:34:56,227
They don't have as many thousands of acres, whatever.

493
00:34:57,527 --> 00:35:00,847
What's their story, and do they have a set of challenges, I assume,

494
00:35:00,847 --> 00:35:05,207
that is probably pretty unique compared to these large ranches that have access to,

495
00:35:05,587 --> 00:35:08,187
yeah, they have their own problems, but they still have access to more capital,

496
00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:12,267
outside capital, if they wanted, than some of these smaller ranchers. Is that fair to say?

497
00:35:12,267 --> 00:35:16,647
Yeah. Let me give you two good examples. When we were on our King Ranch tour,

498
00:35:17,027 --> 00:35:20,467
our tour guide was a guy by the name of Gabe, and he's the tour guide on the ranch,

499
00:35:20,547 --> 00:35:24,007
but also he has his own little ranch off to the side, his own little piece of parcel,

500
00:35:24,187 --> 00:35:29,067
and he's got his cows running on that, and he's suffering due to finances and rain.

501
00:35:29,067 --> 00:35:49,067
So it's real tough down there, and he would love some more rainfall, but also the finances of it. It's hard to meet it because he's also using these programs to kind of get ahead in life. And he's being driven out, and he doesn't even know it. I don't know if he doesn't know it. I'm not saying that. But he's struggling because of the system that he's captured inside of.

502
00:35:49,627 --> 00:35:53,207
Another rancher is a good friend of mine, Jason Rick in Crawford, Colorado.

503
00:35:53,667 --> 00:35:57,107
And he's a first-generation rancher, so he didn't inherit from his family.

504
00:35:57,487 --> 00:35:59,327
He was a miner, a coal miner.

505
00:35:59,587 --> 00:36:04,367
Then he was a military, fought in our U.S. military and is a proud veteran.

506
00:36:04,827 --> 00:36:06,487
And then he says, I want to get back to the farm.

507
00:36:06,587 --> 00:36:08,667
So he took over his wife's family's farm.

508
00:36:09,187 --> 00:36:12,107
And that was some acreage, but it wasn't enough to really make it profitable.

509
00:36:12,107 --> 00:36:16,207
So he went out and he got other people's land and put his cattle on it.

510
00:36:16,207 --> 00:36:26,007
So he contracted land and ran cattle on other people's land in a regenerative way and took his wife's family's soil from that much of topsoil to now it's that deep, rich chocolate.

511
00:36:26,167 --> 00:36:27,487
And he's a good friend.

512
00:36:27,587 --> 00:36:28,507
He's a great Bitcoiner.

513
00:36:28,647 --> 00:36:31,007
He's one of the founding members of the space in Denver.

514
00:36:31,267 --> 00:36:35,807
So he's one of those bridges between Bitcoin and Rancho, and he's got a great story to tell.

515
00:36:36,007 --> 00:36:38,347
And he's a founding member of the Beef Initiative as well.

516
00:36:38,727 --> 00:36:41,027
So he's part of the advisory board of the Beef Initiative.

517
00:36:41,027 --> 00:36:49,827
So can you talk a little bit more about what are these different contracts that these ranchers will enter into?

518
00:36:49,907 --> 00:36:55,287
Because I think this is kind of like a foreign thing for people who either didn't grow up around it or just are not familiar with it.

519
00:36:56,347 --> 00:37:01,087
How is it exactly that these ranchers are sort of getting trapped into these situations?

520
00:37:01,447 --> 00:37:05,927
Are they basically offered a certain amount of money up front to then agree on a set of prices later?

521
00:37:06,047 --> 00:37:07,267
Or how exactly does that work?

522
00:37:08,047 --> 00:37:09,327
It's just that money is tight.

523
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:14,127
and if they go to the they have two places to go right now they can either go to the government and

524
00:37:14,127 --> 00:37:19,647
be part of a program and get money that way that's doled out as it's doled out and the details are

525
00:37:19,647 --> 00:37:26,067
a lot or they can go to the local banker and say hey will you give me a loan and if you're if you're

526
00:37:26,067 --> 00:37:31,687
just running by and you're just doing the you're just getting by people don't tend to want to give

527
00:37:31,687 --> 00:37:37,307
you money as much but there's a whole pool of capital that they haven't had access to yet and

528
00:37:37,307 --> 00:37:42,227
that pool of capital is Bitcoiners. And Bitcoiners have a strong incentive to help share that capital

529
00:37:42,227 --> 00:37:48,107
with ranchers because it's actually that third step, fix the money, do something useful with it,

530
00:37:48,147 --> 00:37:51,467
then fix the world. And there's a huge opportunity that I want to talk more about here,

531
00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:53,667
but I'm not sure if I answered your whole question yet.

532
00:37:54,587 --> 00:37:59,187
No, no, no, you didn't. I was specifically asking sort of about these government programs.

533
00:37:59,607 --> 00:38:04,787
These are ones where they agree to meet certain guidelines, I assume. They agree to go by various

534
00:38:04,787 --> 00:38:11,227
USDA standards, and then they're whatever, either given some sort of a grant and or loans

535
00:38:11,227 --> 00:38:12,067
with certain conditions.

536
00:38:12,387 --> 00:38:15,227
I just wanted some more details about that, like those specific programs.

537
00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:16,347
Where the – okay.

538
00:38:16,487 --> 00:38:21,967
So the programs are – and this is – I'm the Bitcoiner advisor to the belief initiatives.

539
00:38:22,367 --> 00:38:24,527
So there's ranchers that have more details.

540
00:38:24,787 --> 00:38:25,167
High level.

541
00:38:25,167 --> 00:38:31,327
High level is that they have to follow certain procedures on their property.

542
00:38:31,327 --> 00:38:34,867
And we've been through government regulations where, think of it like the HOA.

543
00:38:35,047 --> 00:38:36,347
This will probably be the easiest way.

544
00:38:36,687 --> 00:38:40,007
When you have an HOA, what have you done to your house today?

545
00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:41,487
Are you the right color of taupe?

546
00:38:41,547 --> 00:38:42,847
Have you mowed your lawn correctly?

547
00:38:43,287 --> 00:38:46,547
These are the kind of, this is an analogy of what they're also going through.

548
00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:48,907
Have they hit the right kind of weight?

549
00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:50,207
Are they doing the right sort of thing?

550
00:38:50,327 --> 00:38:53,847
But then the capture actually happens when they go take their cattle to market.

551
00:38:53,847 --> 00:39:02,027
And they're being overwhelmed with technology and these big corporations that basically they don't have a shot against all of that.

552
00:39:03,687 --> 00:39:03,707
Okay.

553
00:39:03,987 --> 00:39:04,207
Okay.

554
00:39:04,367 --> 00:39:05,867
That makes a ton of sense.

555
00:39:06,047 --> 00:39:06,607
And then let's – okay.

556
00:39:06,667 --> 00:39:08,347
So then I interrupted you a little bit.

557
00:39:08,407 --> 00:39:17,207
Let's talk then about kind of this connection that you guys are forging between ranchers, independent ranchers, and Bitcoiners.

558
00:39:17,347 --> 00:39:22,447
Because I think some people may hear this and say like, are you saying Bitcoin fixes this, that Bitcoiners fixed this?

559
00:39:22,447 --> 00:39:36,447
How does this actually work? What meaningful difference does this actually make for these ranchers who are out there trying to make ends meet, trying to do an honest day's work, trying to provide for their families, but are running up into all of either these regulatory pressures, financing pressures, et cetera, et cetera?

560
00:39:38,227 --> 00:39:48,467
Here's what I'd say for Bitcoin. This is my field of Bitcoiners. So as Bitcoiners, a lot of us are carnivores already. We understand that. We love that. That's actually changed our lives in many, many ways.

561
00:39:48,467 --> 00:39:54,527
and many bitcoiners are actually buying their beef from independent ranchers and they're doing

562
00:39:54,527 --> 00:39:59,227
it through the beef initiative we have a website called beefmaps.com where you can actually locate

563
00:39:59,227 --> 00:40:03,647
a local rancher go shake their hand have a relationship and that's a phenomenal thing to

564
00:40:03,647 --> 00:40:08,207
do that's a great way to help but it's just the beginning of what's needed actually what's what

565
00:40:08,207 --> 00:40:13,267
and and here's the thing you have bitcoin but you can't eat your bitcoin you actually at some point

566
00:40:13,267 --> 00:40:17,787
you need to acquire it by some means you can go to the grocery store you can buy there and you're

567
00:40:17,787 --> 00:40:21,667
going to get whatever you get. You can form these relationships with independent ranchers,

568
00:40:21,787 --> 00:40:25,347
and that's a better alliance, and you're getting the beef you want. But if that rancher goes out

569
00:40:25,347 --> 00:40:30,147
of business, then what do you do? You're in big trouble. What could a Bitcoiner that has a larger

570
00:40:30,147 --> 00:40:35,487
stack than some others? Well, they could actually fund and finance more cattle for that rancher.

571
00:40:35,887 --> 00:40:39,827
And instead of going to a government program, they come to the Bitcoin program, where, hey,

572
00:40:39,947 --> 00:40:45,507
I want to put 10 cattle on your ranch, and I'm actually putting my cattle in cold storage

573
00:40:45,507 --> 00:40:49,187
on your property and you're actually raising my cattle for me.

574
00:40:49,327 --> 00:40:51,587
And when I want to acquire one of those,

575
00:40:51,647 --> 00:40:53,727
when I actually want to harvest those to fill my freezers,

576
00:40:53,927 --> 00:40:56,427
then I'm actually harvesting my own cattle from you.

577
00:40:56,607 --> 00:40:58,387
And that's an injection of liquidity

578
00:40:58,387 --> 00:41:00,567
that would make all the difference for ranchers,

579
00:41:00,807 --> 00:41:01,467
all the difference.

580
00:41:01,967 --> 00:41:04,387
And if you want to take it one level bigger,

581
00:41:04,487 --> 00:41:06,487
if you want to actually be a really sovereign Bitcoiner,

582
00:41:06,647 --> 00:41:07,607
what could you actually do?

583
00:41:07,947 --> 00:41:08,987
Well, you build a Citadel.

584
00:41:09,327 --> 00:41:10,147
You build your Citadel.

585
00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:11,327
It looks like a homestead.

586
00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:12,967
It's a piece of property that you've secured

587
00:41:12,967 --> 00:41:14,707
and you've secured Maslow's Hierarchy and Asia.

588
00:41:14,707 --> 00:41:21,387
you secure the air, you secure the water, the food, the shelter, the telecommunications,

589
00:41:21,947 --> 00:41:28,567
and everything you need to be safe there. But securing your beef, you're not going to have

590
00:41:28,567 --> 00:41:32,847
your homestead, your Citadel, depend on carrots and celery out of your garden. You actually want

591
00:41:32,847 --> 00:41:36,767
to have beef. You actually want that saturated fat. So how do you do that? You build a Bitcoin

592
00:41:36,767 --> 00:41:42,407
Citadel ranch. And as Bitcoiners, we're all kind of IT geek guys. Do we really know how to ranch?

593
00:41:42,407 --> 00:42:12,047
Some do. That's cool, but most don't. What can you do about that? Well, align with a rancher or Texas Slim actually has Texas Slim Land and Cattle Company that just released. And it's a turnkey ranch solution. So you can actually get a piece of property. We'll actually have our team of experts come and help build your ranch, manage your ranch. If it's in El Salvador, we'll actually employ Salvadorans to actually be your ranchers for you. And we're employing Salvadorans. We're making everything. It's a win, win, win, win. And that's the ultimate sovereignty I think you can reach as a Bitcoin.

594
00:42:12,047 --> 00:42:18,087
And I think that's new information that Bitcoiners haven't really thought through fully yet that can actually change the world.

595
00:42:19,547 --> 00:42:22,907
Okay, so there's a number of things I want to pick out there.

596
00:42:23,227 --> 00:42:30,247
One of them is just an analogy that came to my mind when you talked about kind of like paying for your cattle to be on a rancher's ranch.

597
00:42:30,627 --> 00:42:34,007
It reminds me of like you're paying to host miners with a company, right?

598
00:42:34,147 --> 00:42:34,327
Yes, yes.

599
00:42:34,327 --> 00:42:35,027
It's kind of like that.

600
00:42:35,167 --> 00:42:36,467
Like you're paying to host miners.

601
00:42:36,767 --> 00:42:37,667
They're running the infrastructure.

602
00:42:37,767 --> 00:42:38,147
They're doing that.

603
00:42:38,207 --> 00:42:40,027
They're taking, you know, whatever cut from that.

604
00:42:40,027 --> 00:42:41,647
But ultimately, you're getting the product of that.

605
00:42:41,647 --> 00:42:44,687
either non-KYC Bitcoin or beef.

606
00:42:45,147 --> 00:42:45,587
Precisely.

607
00:42:45,587 --> 00:42:46,267
Fair analogy.

608
00:42:47,147 --> 00:42:49,247
Precisely the exact correct analogy.

609
00:42:49,767 --> 00:42:51,467
You're so smart, Walker, by the way.

610
00:42:51,767 --> 00:42:52,527
I try my best.

611
00:42:53,287 --> 00:42:55,087
Okay, so the other thing is you mentioned El Salvador.

612
00:42:55,207 --> 00:42:56,227
We haven't talked about that yet.

613
00:42:56,567 --> 00:42:57,587
What are you guys doing there?

614
00:42:57,647 --> 00:42:58,727
Why were you guys just down there?

615
00:42:59,607 --> 00:43:01,107
It's for a really big reason.

616
00:43:01,827 --> 00:43:04,607
Just before Bitcoin Historica that just happened down there,

617
00:43:04,647 --> 00:43:06,627
the government had their own Bitcoin conference.

618
00:43:07,567 --> 00:43:10,367
Texas Slim, on his own, actually negotiated a contract

619
00:43:10,367 --> 00:43:17,087
with the country of El Salvador to relaunch and restart their entire beef industry from the ground

620
00:43:17,087 --> 00:43:21,367
up. The country doesn't have food security. We've been living down there. We've been buying

621
00:43:21,367 --> 00:43:25,807
meat. Well, we brought beef last time, but we've had to buy some beef at the grocery store.

622
00:43:26,327 --> 00:43:32,187
And it's not great. It's the skinny, stringy, Central South American type beef that you get

623
00:43:32,187 --> 00:43:37,467
there. And all the beef that you buy isn't coming from the country of El Salvador. It's coming from

624
00:43:37,467 --> 00:43:44,347
its neighbors, Nicaragua and Honduras and other places as well. So they need food security because

625
00:43:44,347 --> 00:43:48,587
the country of El Salvador is actually its own citadel. It's a Bitcoiner citadel and it's a

626
00:43:48,587 --> 00:43:54,807
freedom citadel. And so they know, Vicali knows this is really, really important. His ministry of

627
00:43:54,807 --> 00:44:01,287
agriculture is dedicated to do this and they're doing a fantastic job. The acting director or

628
00:44:01,287 --> 00:44:06,587
minister of agriculture is a guy named Oscar, and he's committed to really making this happen. So

629
00:44:06,587 --> 00:44:17,527
The contract is to bring cattle from Texas down to El Salvador and bring the very best genetics that we have from Texas down to El Salvador and make a huge difference.

630
00:44:17,747 --> 00:44:19,687
And there's already great water there.

631
00:44:19,807 --> 00:44:21,287
There's fantastic grass there.

632
00:44:21,387 --> 00:44:22,467
The soil is volcanic.

633
00:44:22,607 --> 00:44:25,927
It's some of the most wonderful soil in the world.

634
00:44:26,247 --> 00:44:31,487
There's volcanoes there, and you don't want to put them on the hillside of a volcano, but there's tons of pasture there too.

635
00:44:31,487 --> 00:44:34,267
And they have areas that are already ranching.

636
00:44:34,327 --> 00:44:36,367
It's part of their heritage, the ranching.

637
00:44:36,367 --> 00:44:47,407
And it's places like Santa Ana and some other parts of the nation that they have a ranching heritage, but they've just been through civil war and gang warfare for decades.

638
00:44:47,407 --> 00:44:50,507
And it's been just devastated, all their infrastructure.

639
00:44:50,767 --> 00:44:52,127
It's demoralized them.

640
00:44:52,447 --> 00:44:54,167
But Bekele has brought hope to that country.

641
00:44:54,407 --> 00:44:55,547
It's brought initiative.

642
00:44:55,807 --> 00:44:56,767
It's brought entrepreneurship.

643
00:44:56,767 --> 00:45:02,967
It's brought a brain trust to their beach where we have a bunch of Bitcoiners trying to figure this out at a technological level.

644
00:45:02,967 --> 00:45:06,587
but also in a really collaborative and innovative way as well.

645
00:45:06,727 --> 00:45:11,027
And it's the difference between working with a government that's fighting you

646
00:45:11,027 --> 00:45:13,567
and a government that's opening you with open arms to say,

647
00:45:13,647 --> 00:45:16,507
hey, come here, make this place better with us.

648
00:45:16,627 --> 00:45:18,267
And that's the partnership there.

649
00:45:19,667 --> 00:45:21,287
I mean, that's awesome.

650
00:45:21,467 --> 00:45:31,654
Has this been widely publicized yet That why we talking today Walker We need to No no the El Salvador thing too though Like I knew about you know you told me about the beef

651
00:45:31,694 --> 00:45:33,394
but I didn't know that the El Salvador thing was like,

652
00:45:33,474 --> 00:45:36,194
I mean, this is happening like right now, basically.

653
00:45:36,194 --> 00:45:38,114
Right now, and it hasn't got the press it needs.

654
00:45:38,514 --> 00:45:39,814
So we're talking about it here.

655
00:45:39,974 --> 00:45:44,074
And then beef.com amplifies that entire message to the world

656
00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:48,494
in a way that is tangible, that can be seen, that's real.

657
00:45:48,494 --> 00:45:51,514
We have a digital ranch in order to run these operations.

658
00:45:51,894 --> 00:45:53,054
And it's not just El Salvador.

659
00:45:53,374 --> 00:45:54,794
We have requests from every continent.

660
00:45:54,994 --> 00:46:01,634
We have requests in Africa and Europe and in South America, Central America, here in the United States as well.

661
00:46:03,654 --> 00:46:12,114
I mean, that's that's it's it's really cool to see this because I think, again, this isn't just about American beef, right?

662
00:46:12,114 --> 00:46:18,554
This is about fixing the industry, fixing the incentives here in America, but it's something that needs to happen like everywhere.

663
00:46:18,874 --> 00:46:20,734
You know, is there right now a good model?

664
00:46:20,894 --> 00:46:26,034
Like, is there anywhere that you can point to globally where they have a better model for cattle?

665
00:46:26,274 --> 00:46:29,194
Like right now, is it all pretty broken wherever you go is my question.

666
00:46:29,394 --> 00:46:30,234
It's broken everywhere.

667
00:46:30,654 --> 00:46:31,434
It's broken everywhere.

668
00:46:31,434 --> 00:46:34,374
And it's worse in other places, some places than others.

669
00:46:34,374 --> 00:46:48,774
But El Salvador is our chance for the entire beef industry to show, to prove the correct model, to prove the way that ranchers would like to actually run their cattle, to actually be as natural and close to the ground, to give the cattle a great life and a paradise.

670
00:46:49,354 --> 00:46:53,154
The rainfall in El Salvador is four times what it is in South Texas.

671
00:46:53,934 --> 00:46:55,954
And so it's a great place.

672
00:46:56,014 --> 00:46:57,994
It's a paradise for cattle to live in, actually.

673
00:46:57,994 --> 00:47:05,834
And if we do that right there, if we show that doing the rancher way is the right way, then everybody becomes jealous of that way.

674
00:47:05,994 --> 00:47:07,294
And every country is going to want that.

675
00:47:07,354 --> 00:47:12,454
The people, the only people that are against freedom, that are against free speech are tyrants.

676
00:47:13,174 --> 00:47:16,094
And those that aren't, they want to be part of this.

677
00:47:16,214 --> 00:47:24,034
And so we want to talk to those people that want freedom, that want sovereignty, that want food security for their people, for their local communities, but for their entire nation as well.

678
00:47:24,034 --> 00:47:35,494
I think this is really powerful because this is one of those things where if you want to really have a free population, you need to be able to have a healthy population, right?

679
00:47:35,494 --> 00:47:41,614
A population that's completely dependent on the pharmaceutical industry, on the agricultural lobbies and all these things.

680
00:47:41,614 --> 00:47:46,034
that's not like you're, okay, even if you have free speech and if you have the right to have guns,

681
00:47:46,134 --> 00:47:52,114
which, you know, thank God we do here in America, still your most precious form of private property,

682
00:47:52,234 --> 00:47:58,914
your own body is being ransacked by what you are putting into it. If you cannot find good quality

683
00:47:58,914 --> 00:48:03,054
thing, good quality foods, good quality, you know, like food is the best medicine, right? It's that's

684
00:48:03,054 --> 00:48:07,034
where it all starts with. It starts with what you put into your body. And it just feels like we've

685
00:48:07,034 --> 00:48:13,514
gotten so far away in the u.s and and elsewhere from just common sense around this stuff again

686
00:48:13,514 --> 00:48:17,774
we talked earlier about the kind of the vilification of beef and the fact that this is you know again

687
00:48:17,774 --> 00:48:23,554
cow like literally talking about calling cow herds because of their farts and it's like dear lord like

688
00:48:23,554 --> 00:48:29,134
just it just seems we've lost the plot so much and it seems like what you guys doing are doing

689
00:48:29,134 --> 00:48:33,154
here is just trying to bring a little bit of sanity and common sense back to this and give

690
00:48:33,154 --> 00:48:36,454
some dignity through the ranchers who have dedicated their lives to this.

691
00:48:37,154 --> 00:48:41,374
Absolutely. And if you look at tyranny, when tyranny pops up around the world throughout

692
00:48:41,374 --> 00:48:46,334
history, what's the first thing that they take, go after? It's the food system. And when we've

693
00:48:46,334 --> 00:48:50,854
seen dictators rise, when we've seen communism rise, it's the food that they attack first,

694
00:48:50,954 --> 00:48:55,734
they wipe out, and then they have total control because if people can't eat, they can't fight back.

695
00:48:56,674 --> 00:49:02,054
And it's disgusting, it's awful, and it's not something that anybody that loves freedom wants

696
00:49:02,054 --> 00:49:02,814
to be part of.

697
00:49:03,434 --> 00:49:04,834
An example is Oprah.

698
00:49:05,054 --> 00:49:08,694
She came after the beef industry a number of years ago, and she was talking about how

699
00:49:08,694 --> 00:49:09,234
awful it was.

700
00:49:09,294 --> 00:49:11,074
And it's a story for people to look up.

701
00:49:11,514 --> 00:49:16,674
But the independent beef ranchers went after her with lawyers, and they took it all down.

702
00:49:16,774 --> 00:49:19,714
They made her take it back, and they won the lawsuit.

703
00:49:20,014 --> 00:49:22,234
So there's another story to dig into.

704
00:49:23,154 --> 00:49:24,814
Well, now she's shilling for Ozempic.

705
00:49:24,814 --> 00:49:27,414
So, you know, that's kind of what you expect, right?

706
00:49:28,434 --> 00:49:30,214
Yeah, that's really good for people.

707
00:49:31,194 --> 00:49:31,554
Yeah, right.

708
00:49:31,554 --> 00:49:35,414
Yeah, exactly. I'm sure there's not going to be any unforeseen consequences to all of that.

709
00:49:35,914 --> 00:49:36,494
Never has been.

710
00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:43,614
Yeah, so talking a little bit more about kind of what you guys see as the vision for this, because we're talking about America.

711
00:49:43,694 --> 00:49:45,814
We're also talking about El Salvador. We're talking about other countries now.

712
00:49:46,414 --> 00:49:50,974
Is this – is what you guys are building with the Beef Initiative, I mean, is the goal to be able to have –

713
00:49:50,974 --> 00:49:56,814
like if I want to be able to get El Salvador beef like in the future, is that what kind of you're enabling is like really –

714
00:49:56,814 --> 00:50:00,154
it's not just – it can be local but it can also be global. Is that the idea?

715
00:50:00,154 --> 00:50:18,574
It can, but El Salvador needs to feed its own people first. And that's the real goal is that we're building a food system for the people of El Salvador. And I think that can happen very, very quickly. We have a plan that we're not unveiling completely right now, but we have the best experts in the world working on it, working closely with the government of El Salvador.

716
00:50:18,574 --> 00:50:29,914
I was shocked when I was in the Ministry of Agriculture offices about how open and how willing they were to be servants of their people, to actually be people that want to take care of their people.

717
00:50:30,174 --> 00:50:32,434
And it was like government like I've never experienced before.

718
00:50:32,594 --> 00:50:36,054
And it was shocking to me and encouraging in a deep, deep way.

719
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,954
And Bitcoin has accused me of being a statist by saying that.

720
00:50:40,314 --> 00:50:42,834
But hey, we got to start somewhere.

721
00:50:42,834 --> 00:50:45,454
We have to have a beachhead to actually start freedom on.

722
00:50:45,674 --> 00:50:48,534
And El Salvador seems to be our best place to do that.

723
00:50:48,574 --> 00:50:51,034
and Bukele being the person he is,

724
00:50:51,074 --> 00:50:53,894
is the leader that can do that in a great way.

725
00:50:55,394 --> 00:50:57,934
Just to get a little bit deeper into the El Salvador side of things,

726
00:50:57,974 --> 00:50:59,854
and we'll bring it back to the U.S. of A.,

727
00:50:59,854 --> 00:51:02,254
but is the core issue there,

728
00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:03,634
I mean, obviously there have been a lot of issues,

729
00:51:03,634 --> 00:51:06,614
like the fact that the country was not safe until Bukele took office.

730
00:51:06,754 --> 00:51:10,474
That kind of makes it hard to do anything with a long-term mindset

731
00:51:10,474 --> 00:51:12,574
when you're just worried about are you going to survive the next day.

732
00:51:13,054 --> 00:51:14,854
But you mentioned you're bringing Texas cattle

733
00:51:14,854 --> 00:51:16,754
with these specific genetics down there.

734
00:51:16,754 --> 00:51:20,674
Is it an issue of just they didn't have the quality stock down there?

735
00:51:21,114 --> 00:51:28,914
On top of the fact that it was the murder capital of the world or whatever until he took office, what was the kind of core issue there?

736
00:51:29,014 --> 00:51:30,354
What are they really looking to solve?

737
00:51:30,414 --> 00:51:35,354
Is it just a matter of, hey, we need better cows with better genetics to start kind of building out these herds?

738
00:51:36,134 --> 00:51:39,694
Let me tell one of the heartbreaking stories we got when we were down there last trip.

739
00:51:39,694 --> 00:51:45,834
this wonderful woman that had a huge cattle operation down there.

740
00:51:46,194 --> 00:51:48,194
She had hundreds of cattle,

741
00:51:48,714 --> 00:51:52,394
and the men came to her property with machine guns

742
00:51:52,394 --> 00:51:56,274
and shot her entire herd in front of her face right there,

743
00:51:56,534 --> 00:51:57,594
just slaughtered them.

744
00:51:58,634 --> 00:51:59,174
And why?

745
00:51:59,514 --> 00:52:03,034
To decrease food security, to take over, to control.

746
00:52:03,454 --> 00:52:04,774
And it was heartbreaking.

747
00:52:05,574 --> 00:52:09,134
You can imagine, just imagine dropping into some country

748
00:52:09,134 --> 00:52:11,034
that's authoritarian with a Ferrari

749
00:52:11,034 --> 00:52:13,054
and see how long you're going to hold on that Ferrari for.

750
00:52:14,074 --> 00:52:15,414
It's going to be gone in a second.

751
00:52:15,814 --> 00:52:17,594
So if you come down to a country like that

752
00:52:17,594 --> 00:52:18,734
with the best genetic cow,

753
00:52:18,974 --> 00:52:20,294
you think you're going to hang on to that cow?

754
00:52:20,554 --> 00:52:22,634
No, it's either going to be taken or killed immediately.

755
00:52:23,134 --> 00:52:25,694
And so they've gotten the scraps of the genetics,

756
00:52:26,014 --> 00:52:28,134
but we have the best genetics in the world.

757
00:52:28,614 --> 00:52:30,214
It's AI to AI,

758
00:52:31,334 --> 00:52:34,034
artificial insemination to artificial intelligence.

759
00:52:34,274 --> 00:52:36,414
That's the beef intelligence that we're talking about.

760
00:52:36,414 --> 00:52:38,134
And it's artificial insemination

761
00:52:38,134 --> 00:52:40,254
that ramps up genetics of cows,

762
00:52:40,394 --> 00:52:43,034
that actually gets the best quality beef for humans.

763
00:52:43,394 --> 00:52:45,634
And how you finish those cows off matters a lot.

764
00:52:45,694 --> 00:52:46,794
If you just feed them corn

765
00:52:46,794 --> 00:52:49,514
and some other low-value products like that,

766
00:52:49,554 --> 00:52:51,174
you're going to get low-value beef out of it.

767
00:52:51,394 --> 00:52:52,914
But we're talking about inputs

768
00:52:52,914 --> 00:52:54,894
that are all-natural, organic,

769
00:52:55,194 --> 00:52:56,694
that are high-quality inputs,

770
00:52:56,794 --> 00:52:59,094
and you feed them the right sort of proteins.

771
00:52:59,194 --> 00:53:00,434
You feed them omega-3,

772
00:53:00,774 --> 00:53:03,014
and then you actually have omega-3 cattle,

773
00:53:03,274 --> 00:53:05,214
and you have super healthy cattle

774
00:53:05,214 --> 00:53:07,574
that's beyond grass-fed, grass-finished.

775
00:53:07,574 --> 00:53:13,214
It's actually high quality both for the cow and for the human that eats that processed cow.

776
00:53:14,834 --> 00:53:15,274
Okay.

777
00:53:15,474 --> 00:53:21,274
I was not expecting AI to AI to mean what it did there, but that's fantastic.

778
00:53:21,594 --> 00:53:24,754
I'm going to have to save that one for a little party joke there.

779
00:53:25,174 --> 00:53:25,334
Okay.

780
00:53:25,474 --> 00:53:31,214
So what else, as we kind of zoom out here, I think it's fascinating what's happening down there in El Salvador.

781
00:53:31,374 --> 00:53:32,954
I think this makes a lot of sense.

782
00:53:33,134 --> 00:53:35,374
Like now that you've told me this, that they're moving in this direction.

783
00:53:35,374 --> 00:53:42,294
And it's like there because there is finally some actual physical security there, you can now make investments in bringing cows.

784
00:53:42,374 --> 00:53:44,934
And it's a horrific story of what happened to that woman down there.

785
00:53:44,974 --> 00:53:48,014
But this is these are the stories you hear from anytime you go to El Salvador.

786
00:53:48,154 --> 00:53:50,474
You hear about people who talked about what it was like before.

787
00:53:51,294 --> 00:53:56,114
It's sadly not anything new. Right. It's tragic, but it was par for the course down there. Right.

788
00:53:56,314 --> 00:54:03,154
Indeed, it was. The other part of infrastructure they're missing in that country that we're also missing here in Texas as well,

789
00:54:03,154 --> 00:54:05,554
is small microprocessing plants.

790
00:54:06,274 --> 00:54:08,294
And so this is part of that capture also.

791
00:54:08,574 --> 00:54:10,654
When you go to the big processing plants,

792
00:54:10,774 --> 00:54:14,014
you have no choice because you're going to the Walmart of beef processing.

793
00:54:14,594 --> 00:54:16,874
But it used to be the case in Texas

794
00:54:16,874 --> 00:54:19,854
that each county had its own microprocessing plant

795
00:54:19,854 --> 00:54:22,414
and the local ranchers would bring it to the county one

796
00:54:22,414 --> 00:54:24,474
and those have slowly closed down.

797
00:54:24,634 --> 00:54:26,734
The devastation across Texas is evident.

798
00:54:27,214 --> 00:54:29,934
I used to drive around Texas with my family all the time

799
00:54:29,934 --> 00:54:31,554
and we'd go to these cute Texas towns

800
00:54:31,554 --> 00:54:33,194
with the courthouse in the center of the square.

801
00:54:33,634 --> 00:54:34,774
They were vibrant places.

802
00:54:34,974 --> 00:54:36,454
The whole square was filled with shops.

803
00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:37,934
There's restaurants, all of that.

804
00:54:38,214 --> 00:54:39,654
Now they're largely dead.

805
00:54:39,954 --> 00:54:41,054
And it's tragic.

806
00:54:41,174 --> 00:54:43,614
In my own lifetime, I've seen the devastation of it.

807
00:54:43,814 --> 00:54:45,294
And what's the difference between now and then?

808
00:54:45,614 --> 00:54:47,634
They lost those microprocessing plants.

809
00:54:47,834 --> 00:54:49,534
That took the heart out of it.

810
00:54:49,814 --> 00:54:52,474
The dollar stores and the Walmarts just destroyed it.

811
00:54:52,474 --> 00:54:55,654
So it's fiat attack on our culture, on our society,

812
00:54:55,814 --> 00:54:57,274
on our heritage, on our people.

813
00:54:57,734 --> 00:54:58,694
And in El Salvador,

814
00:54:58,954 --> 00:55:00,654
they have none of those microprocessing plants.

815
00:55:00,654 --> 00:55:03,254
The good news is we can build those quickly.

816
00:55:03,434 --> 00:55:04,194
We have the templates.

817
00:55:04,634 --> 00:55:05,334
We have the models.

818
00:55:05,454 --> 00:55:06,654
We can drop them in fast.

819
00:55:06,894 --> 00:55:09,474
We even have the private funding to actually build them quickly.

820
00:55:10,094 --> 00:55:14,574
And yeah, they're going to cost a million, two million, two and a half million dollars to build one of these things.

821
00:55:14,814 --> 00:55:16,014
But there's people lining up.

822
00:55:16,114 --> 00:55:20,094
This is another place that Bitcoiners with a large stack can make a huge difference.

823
00:55:20,314 --> 00:55:21,594
And it's actually a good investment.

824
00:55:21,734 --> 00:55:23,414
It's actually a good economic investment.

825
00:55:23,634 --> 00:55:28,094
And it's actually a good security investment as well for them and their communities around them.

826
00:55:28,094 --> 00:55:35,754
Why did we see these disappear in Texas specifically? Was this just because regulations changed or what was the reasoning?

827
00:55:35,754 --> 00:56:01,574
It's the Walmart Dollar Tree story. Walmart comes to town, all the small mom pop shops die. Dollar Tree comes, they die. The big, huge, big four meat processing plants come to town and they suck up all that business and the little ones die. It's a fiat capture. It's misallocated capital and it's designed to bring down freedom, bring down security. If we're fighting for freedom, here's how we can restore it in our own country and countries around the world.

828
00:56:01,574 --> 00:56:07,814
So tell me more about what kind of this marketplace is going to look like.

829
00:56:07,814 --> 00:56:12,294
Because obviously the Beef Initiative has already been doing a lot of stuff in terms of connecting Bitcoiners with ranchers.

830
00:56:12,354 --> 00:56:13,594
You mentioned beefmaps.com.

831
00:56:14,094 --> 00:56:15,854
But how does that change?

832
00:56:16,014 --> 00:56:20,254
How is that augmented or enhanced with this new kind of path forward that you guys have?

833
00:56:21,234 --> 00:56:24,514
In Cattlemen speak, it's called the rancher has a new bid.

834
00:56:24,934 --> 00:56:29,354
If they only have one place to go take their cattle to, you can only take your cattle down to Walmart.

835
00:56:29,354 --> 00:56:33,374
You only have the price that Walmart's going to give you.

836
00:56:33,434 --> 00:56:35,654
You can only have the quality that Walmart's going to give you.

837
00:56:36,234 --> 00:56:37,554
And I don't know.

838
00:56:37,654 --> 00:56:39,114
I don't like to get my produce at Walmart.

839
00:56:39,334 --> 00:56:41,914
I would rather go to a farmer's market and get it.

840
00:56:42,414 --> 00:56:49,214
So beef.com is the farmer's market for independent ranchers to buy and sell and trade their beef in a fair way.

841
00:56:49,414 --> 00:56:57,394
It's getting back to small town heritage, but with a big tech supporting and securing it and securing the data.

842
00:56:57,394 --> 00:56:59,534
and data is the product.

843
00:56:59,874 --> 00:57:00,754
We all know this now.

844
00:57:00,834 --> 00:57:01,454
What was Facebook?

845
00:57:01,654 --> 00:57:02,674
It wasn't ever free.

846
00:57:02,894 --> 00:57:04,294
The cost of it was your freedom.

847
00:57:04,534 --> 00:57:07,254
The cost of it was your entire life

848
00:57:07,254 --> 00:57:08,914
being known by big government

849
00:57:08,914 --> 00:57:09,854
and big corporations.

850
00:57:10,274 --> 00:57:12,354
So there's a cost to freedom

851
00:57:12,354 --> 00:57:14,494
and that cost is tragic

852
00:57:14,494 --> 00:57:16,154
and data is the place

853
00:57:16,154 --> 00:57:17,074
that we're being tracked,

854
00:57:17,334 --> 00:57:18,034
we're being traced,

855
00:57:18,214 --> 00:57:18,934
we're being controlled.

856
00:57:19,314 --> 00:57:21,654
It is the CBDC that, you know,

857
00:57:21,694 --> 00:57:23,514
you're living in an open-air

858
00:57:23,514 --> 00:57:24,674
panopticon prison.

859
00:57:24,974 --> 00:57:25,974
If they can track

860
00:57:25,974 --> 00:57:27,174
every single thing you do,

861
00:57:27,394 --> 00:57:31,014
And if you do something they don't like, suddenly they turn your money off.

862
00:57:31,094 --> 00:57:32,414
They turn off your access to food.

863
00:57:32,494 --> 00:57:33,914
They turn off your freedom.

864
00:57:34,414 --> 00:57:51,414
And by having our own data in a place that's secured with a digital fence around our digital ranch, that suddenly the ranchers have a place that they can buy, sell, and trade with freedom, with security, and the knowledge that they're not giving away the ranch, as it were, through data, through AI.

865
00:57:51,414 --> 00:58:05,834
So in terms of just, I guess, like overall resilience, let's say, or food security of this, this seems like a huge component of it too.

866
00:58:05,834 --> 00:58:26,614
Because obviously if the food supply chains, when it comes to something as fundamental as beef, are compromised in some way, whether that be purposeful, being purposely compromised or choked out to control prices or whether that be even just various foreign adversaries who are embedded in our nation deciding to tamper with those food supply chains, causing massive recalls, all these things.

867
00:58:26,614 --> 00:58:32,494
is that another component to this too is just kind of overall making that supply chain for beef and i

868
00:58:32,494 --> 00:58:37,494
mean that in terms of how the average person how i could get beef me having a lot more options i

869
00:58:37,494 --> 00:58:41,414
mean that seems to be a huge part of this right is that overall resilience and kind of optionality

870
00:58:41,414 --> 00:58:46,614
that might come out of this it's absolutely that it's actually optionality of uh who sells to you

871
00:58:46,614 --> 00:58:51,914
how you get sold to who buys what when and where it's it's it's freedom actually in a place a

872
00:58:51,914 --> 00:58:57,074
marketplace. Another analogy would be this way back in the day when you wanted to sell something,

873
00:58:57,194 --> 00:59:02,294
you put an ad in the back of the newspaper that you're having a garage sale on Sunday or Saturday,

874
00:59:02,474 --> 00:59:06,614
you know, and then everybody come down to that. So the garage sale then became Craigslist. And

875
00:59:06,614 --> 00:59:11,874
that was a whole new freedom and optionality. Then it became Facebook marketplace, another capture,

876
00:59:12,334 --> 00:59:16,854
and that's kind of gone away. But at least Facebook marketplace had verifiability of who

877
00:59:16,854 --> 00:59:21,914
you were that craigslist never had so this is given a digital marketplace that's that's open

878
00:59:21,914 --> 00:59:28,434
and fair to everybody that wants to come and play and participate in that and um ranchers don't like

879
00:59:28,434 --> 00:59:33,034
pump and dumps they don't like scams they don't tolerate scammers longer and if you are going to

880
00:59:33,034 --> 00:59:38,554
be a bad nefarious actor you're going to be done with you're gone so they they there's a cowboy

881
00:59:38,554 --> 00:59:45,174
code and i don't think people know what the cowboy code is it's it's it's real it's masculine as all

882
00:59:45,174 --> 00:59:52,314
get out and it's full of integrity. It's based in faith in our creator and it's serious. And it's

883
00:59:52,314 --> 00:59:58,554
something that actually Bitcoiners could use some of. You know, we've been to a lot of conferences

884
00:59:58,554 --> 01:00:02,274
together and we know how Bitcoiners can be and it looks a little frat party-ish at times.

885
01:00:02,874 --> 01:00:08,094
And, you know, a little bit more masculinity, a little more solid on the ground, a raising of

886
01:00:08,094 --> 01:00:13,554
consciousness, having a code that can help you get there. I recommend the Cowboy Code. I've been

887
01:00:13,554 --> 01:00:18,654
learning it and following it, and it's been improving my life. And I've done quite a bit to

888
01:00:18,654 --> 01:00:24,954
help raise my consciousness throughout these years. And cowboy shamanism, it's a good thing.

889
01:00:26,254 --> 01:00:31,794
That's not a term I've heard before, cowboy shamanism. We might need a whole other discussion

890
01:00:31,794 --> 01:00:36,074
on that one. Indeed. Indeed. And that's one I made up, so that's not really out there in the

891
01:00:36,074 --> 01:00:41,214
culture. But it's true. You just coined it, I think. I think so. And it's something that our

892
01:00:41,214 --> 01:00:42,214
our society could use.

893
01:00:42,254 --> 01:00:44,374
Because in addition to attacks on everything else,

894
01:00:44,534 --> 01:00:48,334
there's an attack on masculinity and on men and the men being men.

895
01:00:48,534 --> 01:00:51,014
And how do we actually become better men?

896
01:00:51,114 --> 01:00:52,174
Actually test ourselves,

897
01:00:52,294 --> 01:00:55,594
but we can test ourselves with extreme sports and all that stuff that may

898
01:00:55,594 --> 01:00:56,214
just kill us,

899
01:00:56,534 --> 01:00:59,394
but it'd be better to test ourselves with hard work,

900
01:00:59,854 --> 01:01:00,614
digging a hole,

901
01:01:01,094 --> 01:01:02,714
learning how to ride a horse,

902
01:01:02,874 --> 01:01:04,034
learning how to be with cattle,

903
01:01:04,094 --> 01:01:04,974
being close to land,

904
01:01:05,054 --> 01:01:06,454
how to actually work the land.

905
01:01:06,794 --> 01:01:08,614
Because AI is driving all of our jobs out.

906
01:01:08,614 --> 01:01:15,994
If you have some sort of tech job, if you have some sort of service job, those jobs are under extreme threat by AI now.

907
01:01:16,254 --> 01:01:23,094
And the young people in our nation, the young men of our nation, have no future, have no hope of a future, no hope of buying a house.

908
01:01:23,474 --> 01:01:24,674
But you know what they can do?

909
01:01:24,914 --> 01:01:25,794
They can raise cattle.

910
01:01:25,874 --> 01:01:26,854
They can be part of a ranch.

911
01:01:26,914 --> 01:01:28,034
They don't have to even own it.

912
01:01:28,034 --> 01:01:33,914
But if they're part of it, then they're securing food for them, their family, as they're growing up, and securing shelter.

913
01:01:34,074 --> 01:01:38,034
So they're actually securing a future in a way that AI has no chance of wiping out.

914
01:01:38,034 --> 01:01:41,154
because cattle need humans to actually work them.

915
01:01:41,334 --> 01:01:43,654
And so it's an AI-proof industry

916
01:01:43,654 --> 01:01:46,234
that really our young people should be looking at,

917
01:01:46,314 --> 01:01:48,134
and we're here to help bring them back to that.

918
01:01:48,194 --> 01:01:50,314
And I mentioned something earlier, the Cowboy Camp.

919
01:01:50,534 --> 01:01:52,854
We have opportunities to actually have cowboys

920
01:01:52,854 --> 01:01:54,994
teach young people, both men and women.

921
01:01:55,134 --> 01:01:58,114
So we also have the Cowboy Camp is both men and women,

922
01:01:58,514 --> 01:02:01,734
but a whole other program for women is called Windy Whispers.

923
01:02:02,134 --> 01:02:04,274
And this is putting women in touch with horses

924
01:02:04,274 --> 01:02:06,634
because there's a bond between women and horses

925
01:02:06,634 --> 01:02:07,494
that's profound.

926
01:02:07,494 --> 01:02:09,454
and it's good for both.

927
01:02:09,714 --> 01:02:11,514
There's something about being around horses.

928
01:02:11,794 --> 01:02:14,194
They are loving, beautiful creatures

929
01:02:14,194 --> 01:02:17,394
and women understand their language very, very well.

930
01:02:17,474 --> 01:02:19,274
And there's a huge benefit to both.

931
01:02:19,354 --> 01:02:21,794
And there's a lot of horses that need a lot of help

932
01:02:21,794 --> 01:02:24,494
that are also being mistreated in many ways

933
01:02:24,494 --> 01:02:25,054
that are profound.

934
01:02:25,354 --> 01:02:27,394
And we think that's going to be a great program

935
01:02:27,394 --> 01:02:29,494
and a great, great opening up.

936
01:02:29,574 --> 01:02:30,414
And that's another part of it.

937
01:02:30,494 --> 01:02:32,414
So all of this is under the umbrella of beef.com.

938
01:02:32,594 --> 01:02:33,854
How can we help our people

939
01:02:33,854 --> 01:02:35,834
and how can we get people back closer to land,

940
01:02:36,214 --> 01:02:36,994
securing our futures,

941
01:02:36,994 --> 01:02:42,214
making families stronger, securing futures for our young people, and for our old people that are

942
01:02:42,214 --> 01:02:46,134
aging out. Hey, why don't we just put the whole family on a ranch when we all live together? Let's

943
01:02:46,134 --> 01:02:50,454
not do old folks' homes anymore. Let's not do suburbs anymore. Let's get back to the real.

944
01:02:50,934 --> 01:02:55,534
And it's the suburbs that are taken over our ranch land. It's the big tech AI companies that

945
01:02:55,534 --> 01:02:59,574
are taken over our ranch land. If we lose it, we might lose it forever. And we might lose our

946
01:02:59,574 --> 01:03:04,954
country forever if that happens. This reminds me of, I think it was a post that Slim had

947
01:03:04,954 --> 01:03:09,634
recently, we were talking about end game framing and saying like, this is a land war.

948
01:03:10,154 --> 01:03:12,954
Is that, I mean, is that really what it comes down to? Like, this is actually like,

949
01:03:13,034 --> 01:03:16,614
this is actually a land war. That's not, that's not hyperbole. Like that's the reality on the

950
01:03:16,614 --> 01:03:21,614
ground. It's, it's not hyperbole. We were just driving around his hometown in the panhandle of

951
01:03:21,614 --> 01:03:28,534
Texas, the Caprock Canyon area. And we drove around and saw a lot. He was showing me, he was

952
01:03:28,534 --> 01:03:33,334
teaching me, what is this land? These Playa lakes, these natural lakes that form out on this Caprock

953
01:03:33,334 --> 01:03:38,034
planes and their places water comes out and a lot of them are dried up the water that actually is

954
01:03:38,034 --> 01:03:42,574
used out there in the senate pivot agriculture comes from the agalala aquifer it's this huge

955
01:03:42,574 --> 01:03:49,514
deep massive lake of water that covers six states underneath the ground and on top of that now we

956
01:03:49,514 --> 01:03:55,334
drove so we're driving past cath cow operators that have their awesome little houses their barns

957
01:03:55,334 --> 01:04:00,374
they have trailers out there they're set up for making food and right across the street is this

958
01:04:00,374 --> 01:04:05,394
huge new subdivision and we drove into this thing and drove around and we got lost inside there

959
01:04:05,394 --> 01:04:11,614
because everything looks exactly the same all the houses are five feet apart and it's to me that's

960
01:04:11,614 --> 01:04:16,694
dystopia and that ranch that's across the street that's so beautiful that that looks like freedom

961
01:04:16,694 --> 01:04:22,014
looks like sovereignty that's the future that's being destroyed by huge subdivisions the windmills

962
01:04:22,014 --> 01:04:27,574
out there another capture of land the solar farms out there another capture of land the ai techs

963
01:04:27,574 --> 01:04:30,794
is coming and it's coming fast and they're coming for our land.

964
01:04:30,874 --> 01:04:31,694
They're coming for the water.

965
01:04:31,934 --> 01:04:35,314
If you take the water away from the ranchers, how are they on a ranch?

966
01:04:35,734 --> 01:04:36,954
How are you going to do that?

967
01:04:37,234 --> 01:04:41,094
So it's a land and resource attack upon the ranchers of this country.

968
01:04:41,414 --> 01:04:42,694
And it's not just our country.

969
01:04:42,914 --> 01:04:45,254
It's everywhere, but it's pernicious in this country.

970
01:04:46,374 --> 01:04:56,094
I mean, it seems fair to say, too, that like all of this is like you can't just fix one part of this problem, right?

971
01:04:56,094 --> 01:05:00,914
this is something that needs to be like a holistic approach because it's if you if you fix one part

972
01:05:00,914 --> 01:05:04,754
of it like this is like a bit of a hydra of a monster right and you but you've got like you

973
01:05:04,754 --> 01:05:08,194
got to slay the beast in its heart you can't just cut off one head more pop up in its place

974
01:05:08,194 --> 01:05:16,254
it seems like what you guys are doing is trying to focus on this this very very i mean herculean

975
01:05:16,254 --> 01:05:22,254
task of not just fixing one part of this industry right but trying to really change the way the

976
01:05:22,254 --> 01:05:26,874
entire thing works, but it's almost not changing the way it works. It changed the way it works now,

977
01:05:26,934 --> 01:05:31,874
but it seems like a return to basics, just back to basics, but enabled with technology. Is that a

978
01:05:31,874 --> 01:05:37,954
fair analysis? It is. And to expand on that a little further, everything's connected to everything,

979
01:05:38,474 --> 01:05:43,114
it turns out. And we see it in the fiat world. Everything's connected to everything. The money's

980
01:05:43,114 --> 01:05:47,594
broken and then the incentives are broken everywhere. And we see in Bitcoin, the incentives

981
01:05:47,594 --> 01:05:49,354
are actually aligned for good behavior.

982
01:05:49,674 --> 01:05:51,374
And we want that Bitcoin world.

983
01:05:51,474 --> 01:05:52,714
We want that Bitcoin economy.

984
01:05:52,874 --> 01:05:53,694
We want all that.

985
01:05:53,994 --> 01:05:56,434
But we've got to fix everything in the process too.

986
01:05:56,574 --> 01:05:58,434
And we have to use Bitcoin to do that.

987
01:05:58,774 --> 01:06:01,494
If we just stack and hodl our Bitcoin away,

988
01:06:01,914 --> 01:06:03,274
that's great individually.

989
01:06:03,634 --> 01:06:05,894
But also, can we actually use that Bitcoin in a way?

990
01:06:05,894 --> 01:06:08,774
And there's ways that that can be done

991
01:06:08,774 --> 01:06:10,134
without having to spend it.

992
01:06:10,634 --> 01:06:12,954
There's lending programs,

993
01:06:13,034 --> 01:06:15,354
and lending is a big touchy topic inside of Bitcoin.

994
01:06:15,354 --> 01:06:21,694
but there's also we have some partners that are that have some new possibilities for bitcoiners

995
01:06:21,694 --> 01:06:25,634
that i don't think are commonly known they aren't the big boys there are other players we have a

996
01:06:25,634 --> 01:06:30,494
bitcoin backed bank in el salvador now as one option and there's others as well that we're

997
01:06:30,494 --> 01:06:33,994
happy to talk to bitcoiners about if you're interested please come talk to us because

998
01:06:33,994 --> 01:06:38,514
there's some details that we're going to keep private for now but that are out there so so it's

999
01:06:38,514 --> 01:06:44,674
it's a way it's a way to go and everything's gonna it's an ecosystem we were trying to recreate this

1000
01:06:44,674 --> 01:06:51,514
world in a new way. It's like trying to fix the body. If you think the body is just your heart

1001
01:06:51,514 --> 01:06:55,034
that's the problem and you're trying to fix your heart, well, there might be some other things

1002
01:06:55,034 --> 01:06:58,914
connected to your heart that are important to look into too. And it might be food related is

1003
01:06:58,914 --> 01:07:06,234
the health fix you're looking for. Let me ask you, this seems like something,

1004
01:07:06,614 --> 01:07:11,794
if you're really empowering these smaller ranchers and empowering the bigger ranchers,

1005
01:07:11,794 --> 01:07:13,254
but just the independent ranchers, right?

1006
01:07:14,274 --> 01:07:17,314
This seems like something that the existing power structures

1007
01:07:17,314 --> 01:07:20,114
that the status quo is not going to be super happy about.

1008
01:07:20,894 --> 01:07:22,134
Do you think that you, I mean,

1009
01:07:22,254 --> 01:07:25,514
what kind of pushback are you guys anticipating?

1010
01:07:26,234 --> 01:07:28,874
And also, I mean, is it a better, like, you know,

1011
01:07:28,914 --> 01:07:31,194
launching it now, just given some of the changes

1012
01:07:31,194 --> 01:07:33,434
in the Department of Health, at least,

1013
01:07:33,594 --> 01:07:35,454
like, do you think that it's a better environment

1014
01:07:35,454 --> 01:07:37,454
for doing this now that there's maybe you can actually get

1015
01:07:37,454 --> 01:07:40,674
even more kind of publicity and just awareness around this?

1016
01:07:40,674 --> 01:07:45,394
I mean, this seems like something that would be right up RFK Jr.'s alley, I would think.

1017
01:07:45,774 --> 01:07:50,314
But what are you anticipating in terms of sort of pushback from the entrenched incumbents?

1018
01:07:50,954 --> 01:07:53,994
And how are you looking at kind of this landscape as you guys take on?

1019
01:07:54,074 --> 01:07:55,714
Again, this is not a small task.

1020
01:07:55,914 --> 01:07:59,634
This is a very, very big task that is going to take a while.

1021
01:07:59,754 --> 01:08:02,434
But I mean, it's worth the toil, right?

1022
01:08:02,454 --> 01:08:03,974
But how are you looking at that right now?

1023
01:08:04,014 --> 01:08:15,901
What are you guys I mean worried about if anything in terms of pushback this is not a marking timing economic development sort of move This is we at a critical point

1024
01:08:16,121 --> 01:08:20,221
We're at a critical point that if we go any further, we're going to lose it.

1025
01:08:20,321 --> 01:08:24,641
We look at the entire macro system of the world global financial system.

1026
01:08:24,841 --> 01:08:26,761
And as Bitcoiners, we see it teetering.

1027
01:08:26,761 --> 01:08:31,021
We know that one country going down can take down all the currencies of all the countries.

1028
01:08:31,661 --> 01:08:33,081
And so same with ranching.

1029
01:08:33,081 --> 01:08:36,321
We're in a precarious situation and the time is now.

1030
01:08:36,841 --> 01:08:38,621
This acquisition happened when it happened.

1031
01:08:39,201 --> 01:08:40,281
Thank goodness it happened.

1032
01:08:40,441 --> 01:08:44,521
It gives us a place to actually recreate a whole new system that's backed by Bitcoin,

1033
01:08:44,661 --> 01:08:47,801
a re-incentivized system that can help save ranchers now.

1034
01:08:48,261 --> 01:08:49,201
That's the market opportunity.

1035
01:08:49,681 --> 01:08:51,581
The danger, it's extreme.

1036
01:08:52,381 --> 01:08:54,761
I'm putting myself a danger talking to you today.

1037
01:08:55,501 --> 01:09:00,661
And you've known me for years and I've been not a public person on purpose.

1038
01:09:00,661 --> 01:09:07,101
but this cause is so important to me and so important to our country and so important to

1039
01:09:07,101 --> 01:09:10,981
bitcoin and to all the countries around the world to the people of those countries

1040
01:09:10,981 --> 01:09:17,381
that i'm willing to stand up and to fight and take a stand and texaslim is one of the bravest

1041
01:09:17,381 --> 01:09:22,261
people one of the smartest people i've ever met he is the charles goodnight of our day he has

1042
01:09:22,261 --> 01:09:28,021
found a new palo duro canyon that palo duro canyon is called beef.com it's a digital ranch

1043
01:09:28,021 --> 01:09:33,041
that everybody's welcome to come and be a part of and that we can build sovereignty, we can build

1044
01:09:33,041 --> 01:09:37,141
freedom, we can build food security, we can help save our people, save our young people,

1045
01:09:37,761 --> 01:09:40,661
save this industry, but save so much more in the process.

1046
01:09:43,241 --> 01:09:50,881
What are you, I mean, when will you know, will you ever know that you guys have won in this?

1047
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,781
I mean, is there a moment where you could say like, if X, Y, Z happened,

1048
01:09:55,781 --> 01:10:01,041
then now we're you know we have the upper hand or is this something that's just going to have to be

1049
01:10:01,041 --> 01:10:05,801
an ongoing constant vigilance like it's it's a you know it's a forever war but it's a forever

1050
01:10:05,801 --> 01:10:11,481
war for a good reason not like just to bomb people in the middle east for oil we'll know it will have

1051
01:10:11,481 --> 01:10:18,581
won when bitcoin's won how's that we'll know it's we'll know it's won when we saved independent

1052
01:10:18,581 --> 01:10:24,121
ranchers we know we've won when people are safe free can express themselves as they wish

1053
01:10:24,121 --> 01:10:27,101
move about their countries as they wish,

1054
01:10:27,521 --> 01:10:29,881
to not have to ask permission from their governments,

1055
01:10:30,041 --> 01:10:31,781
but actually be served by their governments.

1056
01:10:32,281 --> 01:10:33,921
And that's the vision of the future,

1057
01:10:34,060 --> 01:10:35,861
that we are not the serfs of our government.

1058
01:10:36,221 --> 01:10:39,941
We, the people, give the power to the government to be the government.

1059
01:10:40,481 --> 01:10:43,521
And this is our way to actually bring back freedom and sovereignty.

1060
01:10:45,221 --> 01:10:49,841
Are you guys targeting just kind of the Americas

1061
01:10:49,841 --> 01:10:53,621
with the United States of America, then also Central and South America?

1062
01:10:53,621 --> 01:10:56,981
Are you looking at all into Europe and things like that?

1063
01:10:57,060 --> 01:10:59,701
Or is that somewhat of a lost cause over there?

1064
01:11:00,141 --> 01:11:01,001
No, it's not, actually.

1065
01:11:01,141 --> 01:11:04,301
And I talked to some Bitcoiners earlier that told me, well, Europe's lost.

1066
01:11:04,581 --> 01:11:05,341
Well, no, it's not.

1067
01:11:06,060 --> 01:11:08,301
Ireland's reaching out and saying, hey, can you come help us?

1068
01:11:08,741 --> 01:11:09,941
And Ireland is not lost.

1069
01:11:10,081 --> 01:11:10,321
Really?

1070
01:11:11,321 --> 01:11:14,841
Uganda's reaching out and saying, we have all the land you need and want in Savannah.

1071
01:11:15,141 --> 01:11:18,721
Can you please bring good cattle and help save our people in Uganda?

1072
01:11:19,301 --> 01:11:20,560
Kenya's asking us for help.

1073
01:11:21,421 --> 01:11:24,101
There's countries in South America that would like that as well.

1074
01:11:24,601 --> 01:11:28,601
And I was just in Colombia at the Bitcoin Medellin conference there,

1075
01:11:28,921 --> 01:11:32,741
and a wonderful couple that's from Colombia that are raising cattle came up to me,

1076
01:11:32,761 --> 01:11:35,560
and we had a nice conversation about, hey, what can you do for us?

1077
01:11:35,601 --> 01:11:38,501
So talking to individuals, but talking at all different levels.

1078
01:11:38,961 --> 01:11:41,241
And that's why it has to be a group effort.

1079
01:11:41,361 --> 01:11:42,541
Are we going to be able to do everything?

1080
01:11:42,901 --> 01:11:44,481
No, we're the catalyst for change.

1081
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,621
And then we're looking for everybody to come join because it's a global effort,

1082
01:11:48,741 --> 01:11:49,861
and we can't do it by ourselves.

1083
01:11:49,861 --> 01:11:55,701
We can only be the catalyst for that change and create the opportunity and the marketplace to actually make that change happen.

1084
01:11:55,881 --> 01:11:57,081
How does it exactly look?

1085
01:11:57,261 --> 01:11:58,461
Let's all figure that out together.

1086
01:11:59,241 --> 01:11:59,981
That's a big question.

1087
01:12:00,041 --> 01:12:01,101
This has never been done before.

1088
01:12:01,241 --> 01:12:02,621
So how do you do it exactly?

1089
01:12:02,881 --> 01:12:04,301
Well, we have good ideas.

1090
01:12:04,421 --> 01:12:06,161
We have good plans, and we're looking for more of them.

1091
01:12:06,441 --> 01:12:09,281
And we're looking for people to say, hey, I want to stand up and be part of this too.

1092
01:12:09,601 --> 01:12:10,781
I want to stand up for freedom.

1093
01:12:11,081 --> 01:12:12,560
I want to help save my family.

1094
01:12:12,681 --> 01:12:13,761
I want to help save my community.

1095
01:12:13,881 --> 01:12:15,001
I want to help save my nation.

1096
01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:16,441
I want to help save our world.

1097
01:12:16,721 --> 01:12:17,781
And that's what we're doing.

1098
01:12:17,781 --> 01:12:25,881
it's a big big idea and it's it's bodacious it's it's extreme but i think with bitcoin because we

1099
01:12:25,881 --> 01:12:30,921
have such an asymmetric tool against this fiat financial system that we can actually do this

1100
01:12:30,921 --> 01:12:35,321
together but we have to all participate together grow together raise our consciousness together if

1101
01:12:35,321 --> 01:12:39,181
we have our brains working better with healthy beef we can all raise our consciousness we can

1102
01:12:39,181 --> 01:12:43,701
raise the consciousness of our species and save it because it may be a species extinction thing

1103
01:12:43,701 --> 01:12:50,181
we're facing i can't i'm not i'm not fear-mongering there either i'm actually trying to i'm right with

1104
01:12:50,181 --> 01:12:56,481
you on that i also just can't help but think that you did say a cattle ist for change and it was

1105
01:12:56,481 --> 01:13:01,781
just sorry i'm a dad now i can't help but make dad jokes i love that i think that you're and i don't

1106
01:13:01,781 --> 01:13:04,741
think that you're fear-mongering here i think it's actually that struck me as a very hopeful message

1107
01:13:04,741 --> 01:13:07,641
that strikes me as hopeful because it means there's something that people can do

1108
01:13:07,641 --> 01:13:12,121
when yes when you lose hope is when there's nothing you can do that's why so many people are

1109
01:13:12,121 --> 01:13:18,441
I think very nihilistic about especially young people about their economic personal economic

1110
01:13:18,441 --> 01:13:22,421
situation because they feel that there's nothing they can do there's no way for them to get ahead

1111
01:13:22,421 --> 01:13:26,261
there's no way for them to get a chance to get a foothold to you know they can't pick themselves

1112
01:13:26,261 --> 01:13:30,441
up by their bootstraps they can't afford bootstraps you know to the boomers out there telling them oh

1113
01:13:30,441 --> 01:13:34,661
you know just walk just walk your resume in at the at the local store and they'll get a job

1114
01:13:34,661 --> 01:13:39,321
and that firm handshake and that's all you need sonny but but this is the that's why we have

1115
01:13:39,321 --> 01:13:43,701
Bitcoin. And so we are hopeful, right? Bitcoiners understand how you could slip into nihilism,

1116
01:13:43,781 --> 01:13:48,261
but they have hope because they understand the solution. This seems like another area where it'd

1117
01:13:48,261 --> 01:13:54,101
be very easy to get super nihilistic about this, except that there is a path forward. There is hope,

1118
01:13:54,181 --> 01:14:00,481
there are actionable steps that can be taken. And again, it's like this, it's this very kind of

1119
01:14:00,481 --> 01:14:06,481
back to basics mindset is from everything you've told me here, this isn't about reinventing the

1120
01:14:06,481 --> 01:14:10,901
wheel in terms of how, you know, how ranching is done. It's about, it's about reinventing the wheel

1121
01:14:10,901 --> 01:14:16,441
in terms of, uh, or, you know, going back and taking what was old, making it new with technology

1122
01:14:16,441 --> 01:14:21,901
using that. But in terms of what this is at its core, it's back to basics. It's back to tradition.

1123
01:14:22,101 --> 01:14:26,861
It's back to respect for the, for the animal, for the land and for our fellow humans. And I think

1124
01:14:26,861 --> 01:14:30,661
that's, what's really just, it's, what's really exciting. What's really, really empowering,

1125
01:14:30,661 --> 01:14:36,441
really hopeful about this message is it's something that it's like this has the potential

1126
01:14:36,441 --> 01:14:42,681
to ripple into so many aspects of society right because i mean all so many of the mental even i

1127
01:14:42,681 --> 01:14:48,241
wonder i often wonder how much of the the incredible amounts of mental illness and everything we see

1128
01:14:48,241 --> 01:14:51,701
how much of it is just tied back to what we're putting in our bodies right how much of it is

1129
01:14:51,701 --> 01:14:55,801
tied back to what what goes into our gullets and come you know comes out the other end eventually

1130
01:14:55,801 --> 01:15:09,781
But how much of it is tied back to that? Because our food system has just been so, so broken, so overly subsidized, so manipulated by lobbyists, speaking of America here, that it just seems like there's no way to get to get past it.

1131
01:15:09,841 --> 01:15:13,661
But this is something that I think, at least for me, this gives me a ton of hope, Tom.

1132
01:15:14,201 --> 01:15:21,801
Thank you. That's actually the message here. It actually is. And it's actionable hope. It's not just a pie in the sky. Hey, Bitcoin fixes everything.

1133
01:15:21,801 --> 01:15:26,601
it's actually let's play with our bitcoin and do something useful with them as donald trump told us

1134
01:15:26,601 --> 01:15:31,161
to do but also you know one thing we know for certain nihilists aren't here to save the world

1135
01:15:31,161 --> 01:15:36,381
they're going to do nothing but be victims and victim mentality is not going to get us through

1136
01:15:36,381 --> 01:15:40,560
victim mentality is low consciousness high consciousness is actually doing something

1137
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,681
actionable getting back to basics and getting back to basics we can have a lot of technology

1138
01:15:45,681 --> 01:15:50,921
fail all around us but if we're raising cattle on grass that doesn't require a lot of technology so

1139
01:15:50,921 --> 01:15:56,101
it's actually technology proof and that's something worthwhile and useful to do with our land with our

1140
01:15:56,101 --> 01:16:03,581
people with our consciousness it's it seems that also this overall movement and i think some of the

1141
01:16:03,581 --> 01:16:08,060
things that you said just about the way that bitcoiners specifically can get involved especially

1142
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:13,221
maybe more og bitcoiners who are maybe wondering you know what do i do with this large stack that

1143
01:16:13,221 --> 01:16:17,161
i have maybe folks that are in kind of just the the hodl mode they're not maybe necessarily

1144
01:16:17,161 --> 01:16:21,001
acquiring new they're not you know they've they've done their time whatever they're in a different

1145
01:16:21,001 --> 01:16:25,481
place than a lot of us are personally but they're wondering how to deploy that capital in a meaningful

1146
01:16:25,481 --> 01:16:29,081
way right and in a way that's that's going to actually make a difference and i think that

1147
01:16:29,081 --> 01:16:32,781
that's what's really exciting about what you said is some of these different models for people

1148
01:16:32,781 --> 01:16:36,781
getting involved and not just getting involved from a capital standpoint but getting involved

1149
01:16:36,781 --> 01:16:40,881
from like a getting your hands dirty standpoint right like you can come with your labor or your

1150
01:16:40,881 --> 01:16:45,361
capital and you can make a difference and i think that really that's a powerful force because that

1151
01:16:45,361 --> 01:16:48,861
means that even somebody who doesn't have a lot of capital can find a way to get involved in this

1152
01:16:48,861 --> 01:16:52,401
movement and actually make a difference and i think the point that you had about just the

1153
01:16:52,401 --> 01:16:56,901
you know ai is coming for your tech job like yeah it's true it's coming for your tech job it's

1154
01:16:56,901 --> 01:17:02,301
coming for your your your lawyer job it's coming for any any one of your pencil paper pushing jobs

1155
01:17:02,301 --> 01:17:07,241
it's coming for him but it's like getting back to doing things with your hands on the land

1156
01:17:07,241 --> 01:17:14,261
is what i think a lot of folks are are going to want to do but maybe don't know how they can

1157
01:17:14,261 --> 01:17:16,761
actually achieve that in a meaningful way. You know what I mean? Like that just seems,

1158
01:17:16,861 --> 01:17:19,001
it seems too far out of reach. How the hell do you even start? Right?

1159
01:17:19,521 --> 01:17:23,621
I agree. And I think it seems that way, but actually we're here. That's part of the beef

1160
01:17:23,621 --> 01:17:28,421
initiative is to help that. If you have the inclination to do so, and Jason Rick proved it

1161
01:17:28,421 --> 01:17:33,341
himself, a first generation farmer, he hadn't done it. He figured it out and he did it differently

1162
01:17:33,341 --> 01:17:36,421
than all his neighbors did. He didn't go into the government programs. He did it differently.

1163
01:17:36,541 --> 01:17:41,661
And he's here to help teach. He's a masterful teacher. There's many men like him. Cole Bolton

1164
01:17:41,661 --> 01:17:42,881
from KNC Cattle.

1165
01:17:42,981 --> 01:17:45,021
He's part of our advisory board as well

1166
01:17:45,021 --> 01:17:47,541
and a genius beef cattleman.

1167
01:17:47,821 --> 01:17:49,621
And he has processes

1168
01:17:49,621 --> 01:17:51,281
that we can actually replicate

1169
01:17:51,281 --> 01:17:53,821
and can actually show what's going on,

1170
01:17:53,881 --> 01:17:54,801
how to do this right.

1171
01:17:55,161 --> 01:17:57,181
And it makes a huge, huge difference.

1172
01:17:58,060 --> 01:17:59,861
It's the cowboy camp.

1173
01:18:00,181 --> 01:18:01,261
Hey, come on down.

1174
01:18:01,321 --> 01:18:02,381
Let's do cowboy camp together.

1175
01:18:02,621 --> 01:18:03,841
That sounds like a lot of fun, Walker.

1176
01:18:03,941 --> 01:18:05,101
That's a bit corner dream.

1177
01:18:05,101 --> 01:18:06,521
I want to come down.

1178
01:18:06,661 --> 01:18:07,661
I want to do cowboy camp.

1179
01:18:09,601 --> 01:18:11,201
There's actually another point there too.

1180
01:18:11,201 --> 01:18:34,781
The OG thing. And we got in Bitcoin about the same time and that's when we met. And we're not OGs, thank goodness for that in some ways, and also unfortunately for that in some ways as well. But there's something I call the OG dilemma. And here's the OG dilemma. You have a large stack of sats and it's hard to deploy it. It's hard to deploy it because what's a better bet than Bitcoin? When you understand Bitcoin deeply, what's going to give a better return?

1181
01:18:35,341 --> 01:18:42,701
Well, there's the Bitcoin treasury companies, and everybody's got very strong feelings about those and their activities and how those work and why they operate and what they do.

1182
01:18:43,701 --> 01:18:48,321
But what about, so what are you going to actually put your money into that gives a return that's better than Bitcoin?

1183
01:18:48,581 --> 01:18:52,021
Well, your food security, your sovereignty, that's something better.

1184
01:18:52,021 --> 01:18:57,560
And if it actually, it can actually return as well as Bitcoin, there's a potential for that at least.

1185
01:18:57,641 --> 01:18:58,921
It's at least worth looking into.

1186
01:18:59,001 --> 01:19:00,021
It's at least investigating.

1187
01:19:00,201 --> 01:19:01,341
It's at least having the conversation.

1188
01:19:01,341 --> 01:19:06,401
So if you're in that OG dilemma, let's talk about what real sovereignty actually is.

1189
01:19:06,481 --> 01:19:10,441
And it's beef and cold storage on pasture in many different ways.

1190
01:19:10,981 --> 01:19:12,961
And that's the new cold storage that matters.

1191
01:19:13,141 --> 01:19:15,581
It's KYC is know your cattle.

1192
01:19:17,481 --> 01:19:19,441
So it's a good KYC is what you're saying.

1193
01:19:19,461 --> 01:19:21,181
It's a good KYC, know your cattle.

1194
01:19:21,401 --> 01:19:24,141
And if you know your cattle, you ride your horse among your cattle.

1195
01:19:24,241 --> 01:19:25,161
That's how you know your cattle.

1196
01:19:25,501 --> 01:19:26,581
So you become a horseman.

1197
01:19:26,701 --> 01:19:28,761
And how do you feel like landed gentry?

1198
01:19:28,881 --> 01:19:30,381
Is it being a big mansion in Miami?

1199
01:19:30,381 --> 01:19:53,301
I don't think so. I think it's actually have your food sovereignty all around you, have your generational sovereignty all around you, that when you pass on your Bitcoin, you also pass on your Bitcoin ranch citadel. And that goes for generations because 10 head of cattle can feed your family for generations because they keep reproducing. So suddenly you have a time chain of cattle that goes on and on and on. And that's worth having.

1200
01:19:53,301 --> 01:19:56,560
I'm loving all the Bitcoin analogies here, Tom.

1201
01:19:56,701 --> 01:19:57,461
I really am.

1202
01:19:58,101 --> 01:20:09,601
I want to understand too, I mean, in terms of these big players that are out there, these kind of four large ones that you mentioned, is this something that has the potential to actually unseat them?

1203
01:20:09,701 --> 01:20:14,901
Or does it just – is the goal to just provide a credible exit, a credible alternative to that system?

1204
01:20:14,901 --> 01:20:24,201
But I mean, are they just so entrenched and they will presumably keep suckling at the teat of the government, keep putting their lobbying dollars in there, keep working on regulatory mode expansion?

1205
01:20:24,941 --> 01:20:35,241
Is this something – do you guys envision this as you're actually trying to go out there and compete with them at the – over time or just need to be able to provide an exit for enough people?

1206
01:20:35,461 --> 01:20:35,981
That's enough.

1207
01:20:36,101 --> 01:20:37,301
That makes enough of a difference.

1208
01:20:38,441 --> 01:20:42,141
I think like Bitcoin, you welcome everybody to the table.

1209
01:20:42,141 --> 01:20:44,901
and if you want to come to the table as a good player,

1210
01:20:45,161 --> 01:20:46,741
we're welcome to work with you.

1211
01:20:46,841 --> 01:20:48,641
So there's players within there that,

1212
01:20:48,741 --> 01:20:50,841
hey, maybe you do want to do this the right way

1213
01:20:50,841 --> 01:20:52,421
and maybe we can help you figure that out

1214
01:20:52,421 --> 01:20:54,501
because they're cattlemen too.

1215
01:20:54,721 --> 01:20:56,301
Do they want to be part of a fiat system?

1216
01:20:56,381 --> 01:20:57,501
Is it a choice actually?

1217
01:20:58,281 --> 01:20:58,901
Not always.

1218
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,501
So, hey, let's do this.

1219
01:21:00,841 --> 01:21:04,241
So Brooke Rollins is our new agricultural,

1220
01:21:04,701 --> 01:21:06,781
head of our agriculture department here in the U.S.

1221
01:21:06,781 --> 01:21:08,060
and they have the $700 million.

1222
01:21:08,541 --> 01:21:10,461
Let's do this regenerative agriculture right.

1223
01:21:11,021 --> 01:21:12,081
Let's actually do it right.

1224
01:21:12,181 --> 01:21:12,601
Why not?

1225
01:21:13,041 --> 01:21:13,821
Doesn't that sound better?

1226
01:21:14,201 --> 01:21:15,781
Won't you sleep better at night?

1227
01:21:15,901 --> 01:21:17,881
Won't you actually be a better person?

1228
01:21:17,961 --> 01:21:20,841
Won't you have a legacy and a heritage that you actually change the system?

1229
01:21:21,361 --> 01:21:22,001
Let's do it.

1230
01:21:22,081 --> 01:21:22,601
Let's talk.

1231
01:21:23,901 --> 01:21:28,060
Yeah, I would hope that people would want that, right?

1232
01:21:28,301 --> 01:21:28,641
Yeah, me too.

1233
01:21:28,641 --> 01:21:35,381
Because ultimately this is something that like this is undeniably like the movement that you guys are really initiating here.

1234
01:21:35,381 --> 01:21:43,681
This is something that is undeniably a net positive for citizens of this country or for citizens of El Salvador or of any country that starts developing this.

1235
01:21:44,141 --> 01:21:56,101
You don't want your soil to be continually just raped by the likes of Monsanto with their single-use seeds and their lawsuits to other farmers because some of their seeds blew into their crops.

1236
01:21:56,221 --> 01:22:02,261
And all of these ridiculous games that are played, not talking even just about the cattle industry, but across agriculture, right?

1237
01:22:02,261 --> 01:22:08,121
small farmers are just at a huge disadvantage and they're and they're ultimately handicapped

1238
01:22:08,121 --> 01:22:12,581
and even if you look at just the price of uh farm machinery it's gotten more expensive and more

1239
01:22:12,581 --> 01:22:16,721
expensive more expensive even though the technology has gotten better and better and better you know

1240
01:22:16,721 --> 01:22:21,461
like a combine shouldn't be uh 10 times as expensive as it was 20 years ago but it is

1241
01:22:21,461 --> 01:22:26,621
right even though it's you know maybe like it hasn't uh hasn't actually changed that much at

1242
01:22:26,621 --> 01:22:31,261
a fundamental level but it's like all this stuff it's just fiat has broken so many things the

1243
01:22:31,261 --> 01:22:36,201
incentives primarily, but then everything else along the way. And it's like, I just, I hope we

1244
01:22:36,201 --> 01:22:43,801
can get back to a place where we're able to exist in a more, let's say self-sufficient, but you know,

1245
01:22:43,901 --> 01:22:47,501
we don't need to be entirely self-sufficient, right? You can be, you can rely on other people

1246
01:22:47,501 --> 01:22:51,381
like your local rancher, right? That's the other thing. It's like, this is also to me about building

1247
01:22:51,381 --> 01:22:56,961
those smaller, smaller community connections, whether that be your local community or extended

1248
01:22:56,961 --> 01:23:01,560
community online building those connections to actually have that tribe of people that are

1249
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:07,221
ideologically aligned and want to see what's best you know for each other but and for themselves but

1250
01:23:07,221 --> 01:23:11,501
also just at a larger sense for you know for the i don't want to sound too like

1251
01:23:11,501 --> 01:23:16,861
woo woo or whatever but like for the future of humanity this is something that is important we

1252
01:23:16,861 --> 01:23:22,621
don't want to be eating fucking fiat slop forever right we want to be eating good good clean natural

1253
01:23:22,621 --> 01:23:26,261
food and that's something that i think everybody who like actually cares about what you put in your

1254
01:23:26,261 --> 01:23:30,361
body, you should be able to get behind. The plan is 3D printed meat and crickets.

1255
01:23:31,161 --> 01:23:34,801
This is the opt out of that system. And I don't think anybody's excited about that system.

1256
01:23:35,201 --> 01:23:40,461
So if you're excited about not eating crickets and 3D printed beef, then come help us out at

1257
01:23:40,461 --> 01:23:43,421
the Beef Initiative. Let's be a catalyst for this change. Let's save the ranchers.

1258
01:23:43,801 --> 01:23:49,221
Let's protect our beef heritage all over the world. And I don't think it's hyperbole at all

1259
01:23:49,221 --> 01:23:53,801
or woo woo at all. Let's actually save humanity this way. Let's actually do this. Let's actually

1260
01:23:53,801 --> 01:23:57,881
get boots on the ground. Start digging a hole because that's the first step of building a ranch.

1261
01:23:57,941 --> 01:24:04,801
You got to dig a hole. What's the, I mean, for people who are listening to this right now or

1262
01:24:04,801 --> 01:24:09,081
listening to it after the fact and say like, dang, I really like want to get involved in this

1263
01:24:09,081 --> 01:24:15,101
in some capacity. Is the best place for them to go just to beef.com, beefmaps.com to kind of hit

1264
01:24:15,101 --> 01:24:19,461
you guys up there? How can people best get involved if they're hearing this and they're saying, wow,

1265
01:24:19,461 --> 01:24:23,681
this is something I want to be a part of. Definitely go to beef.com. We have a place

1266
01:24:23,681 --> 01:24:28,581
to put your email in there and that puts you into our database, our index of people that want to be

1267
01:24:28,581 --> 01:24:32,721
allies in this. And let's do that. And we're going to provide more information. We're going to accept

1268
01:24:32,721 --> 01:24:37,721
ideas and see how we can move forward. We want to gather information to make the world a better

1269
01:24:37,721 --> 01:24:41,781
place. So let's start that. You can also follow us on Twitter. That's our place where we have the

1270
01:24:41,781 --> 01:24:45,921
greatest footprint that we want that because that's the greatest place for free speech that

1271
01:24:45,921 --> 01:24:50,641
we have currently in our system. This is Noster. Of course, we love Noster and Bitcoin, but we don't

1272
01:24:50,641 --> 01:24:54,621
quite have the global reach that we'd like with Noster yet, but we know that it's going to be

1273
01:24:54,621 --> 01:24:59,301
an important place in the future. So reach out to us there and follow the Beef Initiative.

1274
01:24:59,981 --> 01:25:04,401
Follow Modern T-Man, which is Texas Slim, our founder and our navigator of this thing,

1275
01:25:04,481 --> 01:25:10,741
and the sole owner of Beef.com. Go to BeefF.com and find your local rancher. If

1276
01:25:10,741 --> 01:25:15,901
they're not in your area yet, please let us know. Where do you want to see it? What countries are

1277
01:25:15,901 --> 01:25:18,161
Aren't we covering what areas of the country are we not covering yet?

1278
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,261
And I think that would be pretty good.

1279
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,141
That would be great.

1280
01:25:24,721 --> 01:25:29,641
And if you want to follow me, I'm TomTaberHodl on Twitter.

1281
01:25:30,581 --> 01:25:31,581
TomTaberHodl.

1282
01:25:31,701 --> 01:25:32,060
Got it.

1283
01:25:32,221 --> 01:25:32,560
Got it.

1284
01:25:35,201 --> 01:25:37,281
Maybe, okay, so maybe one last thing.

1285
01:25:37,721 --> 01:25:40,981
Are you able to talk, just whatever you're able to share, I don't know how much you are able to,

1286
01:25:40,981 --> 01:25:46,401
but we didn't actually talk about the act of acquiring this domain.

1287
01:25:46,981 --> 01:25:53,881
I mean, it's kind of wild that Slim was able to get like beef.com.

1288
01:25:54,181 --> 01:25:58,121
I imagine there was a lot of people who would have really, really liked to

1289
01:25:58,121 --> 01:26:01,560
and paid ungodly amounts of money for that domain.

1290
01:26:01,841 --> 01:26:04,520
It's kind of amazing that he was able to pull this off.

1291
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:11,181
It's one of the most stunning accomplishments in modern food history and modern sovereignty.

1292
01:26:11,461 --> 01:26:12,861
It's a stunning thing.

1293
01:26:12,901 --> 01:26:14,401
So thank you for bringing that up again.

1294
01:26:16,261 --> 01:26:28,520
I would say it's because of who Texas Slim is, because of who his partners are around the world, because of the belief and integrity that he's shown over these years.

1295
01:26:29,081 --> 01:26:30,101
His fortitude.

1296
01:26:30,101 --> 01:26:35,501
He's basically been a Texas Ranger for about seven years, driving all over this country,

1297
01:26:35,581 --> 01:26:37,941
gone through several pickup trucks, often living in it.

1298
01:26:38,020 --> 01:26:38,941
It's not been comfortable.

1299
01:26:39,121 --> 01:26:39,901
It's not been easy.

1300
01:26:40,301 --> 01:26:45,020
He gave up his whole life for this mission because he made a promise to his friends.

1301
01:26:45,341 --> 01:26:49,481
Many of those friends are dead now that he would do something and do something important.

1302
01:26:49,761 --> 01:26:50,821
And he's doing that now.

1303
01:26:51,201 --> 01:26:52,001
He saw something.

1304
01:26:52,081 --> 01:26:56,020
He saw this attack long ago, well before anybody else, and understood it and said,

1305
01:26:56,221 --> 01:26:57,421
I have got to do this.

1306
01:26:57,421 --> 01:27:03,801
And through that fortitude, through that just true grit, it's him and him alone that made this actually happen.

1307
01:27:04,001 --> 01:27:07,141
And I couldn't be prouder of him in doing that.

1308
01:27:07,221 --> 01:27:10,221
I couldn't acknowledge he's truly a polymath.

1309
01:27:10,761 --> 01:27:14,601
He's actually a man who actually understands at many different levels.

1310
01:27:14,781 --> 01:27:17,241
And if he wasn't, this would have never happened.

1311
01:27:17,581 --> 01:27:20,261
Anybody else, it was truly only him that could make this happen.

1312
01:27:20,441 --> 01:27:24,741
And the people that owned it, believing in him and his mission, and thank God they did.

1313
01:27:24,801 --> 01:27:25,881
I don't know who those people are.

1314
01:27:25,881 --> 01:27:27,001
I don't know the whole story.

1315
01:27:27,001 --> 01:27:28,421
and it probably will never be told.

1316
01:27:28,801 --> 01:27:30,341
But thank goodness it's here.

1317
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,181
Let's make it the best thing we possibly can.

1318
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,221
We have a piece of digital property,

1319
01:27:34,321 --> 01:27:36,781
a digital ranch that we can actually fight tyranny,

1320
01:27:37,281 --> 01:27:40,481
promote freedom, health, mental health,

1321
01:27:40,701 --> 01:27:42,581
conscious health, all of it around the world.

1322
01:27:44,381 --> 01:27:45,281
I love it, Tom.

1323
01:27:45,321 --> 01:27:47,981
This was an awesome conversation.

1324
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:49,701
And thank you for thinking of me

1325
01:27:49,701 --> 01:27:51,161
to bring this news out there.

1326
01:27:52,101 --> 01:27:54,681
Is there anything we didn't get a chance to cover yet?

1327
01:27:54,721 --> 01:27:55,381
We covered a lot.

1328
01:27:55,381 --> 01:27:57,741
did we go through everything that you wanted to touch on today?

1329
01:27:58,101 --> 01:27:59,281
We did. We did a lot.

1330
01:27:59,481 --> 01:28:02,541
Thank you so much for everything you do here.

1331
01:28:02,861 --> 01:28:04,501
At one point, I wanted to make a podcast,

1332
01:28:04,901 --> 01:28:07,221
but you already do it better than I ever imagined,

1333
01:28:07,341 --> 01:28:08,181
and you do it with such grace.

1334
01:28:08,181 --> 01:28:09,060
You should still make a podcast.

1335
01:28:09,821 --> 01:28:11,741
We'll see. We'll see.

1336
01:28:12,541 --> 01:28:14,881
You need a beef podcast, you know,

1337
01:28:14,941 --> 01:28:16,741
or you can call it Cattle-ist.

1338
01:28:17,741 --> 01:28:18,681
That's a pretty good one.

1339
01:28:19,181 --> 01:28:21,060
That may be upcoming. That may be upcoming.

1340
01:28:21,201 --> 01:28:22,141
So we'll see how that goes.

1341
01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:23,541
I hope it is.

1342
01:28:23,541 --> 01:28:26,301
And again, everybody, you know, check out beef.com.

1343
01:28:26,721 --> 01:28:36,661
Check out beefmaps.com, at Beef Initiative on X and on Noster, at Tom Tabor, Hodel or Hodel, however you like to pronounce it, Modern T-Man, Texas Slim.

1344
01:28:37,181 --> 01:28:37,741
Check him out.

1345
01:28:38,201 --> 01:28:39,481
Appreciate what you guys are doing.

1346
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:40,801
Really excited to see this.

1347
01:28:40,861 --> 01:28:42,641
This gives me a lot of hope.

1348
01:28:43,201 --> 01:28:47,221
You know, I'll keep boosting this message, and I think I need to make it down to the ranch as well.

1349
01:28:47,481 --> 01:28:48,041
That'd be a long time.

1350
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:49,141
Come on down.

1351
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,041
Thanks, Walker.

1352
01:28:50,101 --> 01:28:51,101
I got some boots.

1353
01:28:51,161 --> 01:28:52,501
I got to get myself a hat, though, I think.

1354
01:28:52,661 --> 01:28:53,181
Giddy up.

1355
01:28:53,181 --> 01:28:56,001
This hat right here, I didn't say anything about this.

1356
01:28:56,041 --> 01:29:00,201
This is a brand made by Mark Chapman right here in this room that I'm sitting in.

1357
01:29:00,601 --> 01:29:03,181
This is the new brand for the country of El Salvador.

1358
01:29:04,621 --> 01:29:06,641
Wow, that's pretty sweet.

1359
01:29:07,301 --> 01:29:10,681
So to get one of these hats, it's going to take something.

1360
01:29:10,861 --> 01:29:13,341
So if you're interested in that, reach out to us about that too.

1361
01:29:15,001 --> 01:29:16,241
I might just have to.

1362
01:29:16,341 --> 01:29:17,481
That sounds fantastic.

1363
01:29:18,081 --> 01:29:18,441
All right.

1364
01:29:18,601 --> 01:29:19,821
Tom, appreciate it.

1365
01:29:19,901 --> 01:29:21,041
Really, thank you for your time.

1366
01:29:21,301 --> 01:29:22,060
Good luck.

1367
01:29:22,501 --> 01:29:23,361
Good luck with this.

1368
01:29:23,541 --> 01:29:23,721
I know.

1369
01:29:23,861 --> 01:29:26,281
And really encourage Bitcoiners to follow you guys,

1370
01:29:26,681 --> 01:29:27,481
check out what you're doing,

1371
01:29:27,741 --> 01:29:28,661
amplify the signal,

1372
01:29:29,181 --> 01:29:32,241
and do what you can to support your local rancher

1373
01:29:32,241 --> 01:29:33,121
and go shake their hand,

1374
01:29:33,481 --> 01:29:35,520
which sounds like it'll be getting a heck of a lot easier

1375
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,601
with what you guys are doing now.

1376
01:29:36,981 --> 01:29:37,581
Yeah, absolutely.

1377
01:29:37,841 --> 01:29:38,741
Thanks, Walker, so much.

1378
01:29:39,781 --> 01:29:40,221
Cheers, Tom.

1379
01:29:40,301 --> 01:29:41,461
Thanks to everybody who tuned in.

1380
01:29:41,881 --> 01:29:42,661
We'll see you next time.

1381
01:29:52,060 --> 01:29:57,101
And that's a wrap on this Bitcoin Talk episode of The Bitcoin Podcast.

1382
01:29:57,761 --> 01:30:01,701
Remember to subscribe to this podcast wherever you're watching or listening

1383
01:30:01,701 --> 01:30:06,020
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1384
01:30:06,401 --> 01:30:12,721
Find me on Noster at primal.net slash walker and this podcast at primal.net slash titcoin.

1385
01:30:13,301 --> 01:30:16,741
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1386
01:30:16,741 --> 01:30:20,741
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1387
01:30:20,741 --> 01:30:26,981
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1388
01:30:26,981 --> 01:30:34,641
to get episodes emailed to you and head to Bitcoin podcast.net for everything else. Bitcoin is scarce,

1389
01:30:34,641 --> 01:30:41,041
but podcasts are abundant. So thank you for spending your scarce time listening to the

1390
01:30:41,041 --> 01:30:45,401
Bitcoin podcast. Until next time, stay free.

1391
01:30:50,741 --> 01:30:51,741
Thank you.
