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I no longer consent. Individually it means nothing. Collectively it means everything.

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Do not give them anything to stop you. Ultimately, everything is downstream of central government.

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Whether it's ideology or incompetence, it doesn't really matter. The outcome is the same.

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That's why power centralises, debt increases, everyone else pays for it. And I don't think

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we can vote our way out of this. There'll be no opportunity. We will go into periods

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of high hyperinflation.

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Like, it's obvious.

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There's no point winning when everyone's losing.

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Like, if you win when everyone's losing, that sucks.

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And that's what it is.

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Asset inflation is you win by other people losing.

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As many people as possible have to win.

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The pie itself has to get bigger.

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Bitcoin is central to this.

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I just don't say Bitcoin.

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How you been?

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I've been good.

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How are you?

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Good, good.

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Good to see you.

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The boys are back.

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Boys are back in town.

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It's been a little while.

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Actually, it's not been that long.

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I saw you in Vegas.

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When were we in Vegas?

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That was only a couple months ago.

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When Connor won all the money.

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Yeah.

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Connor Scammer.

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How much did you win, Connor?

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3K.

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3K.

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That's pretty impressive.

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From like $300?

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Yeah.

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I did not.

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I went one hour too long.

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So I was down $2.5K, got up to $500 up,

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and because we thought we were on a magic machine,

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like, rub it, you win.

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I carried on and lost $1,500 in about an hour.

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That's how it gets you.

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I walked away from you that night and also did the same thing.

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Vegas always went.

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Oh, did you?

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Yeah.

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Fucking loser.

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I don't even remember how I lost my money,

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but I woke up without it.

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Man, it's good to see you.

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Hold on, I'm not interviewing you.

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It's your show now.

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Have you fixed Britain yet, Pete?

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No.

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I tell you what, though.

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I tell you, an interesting place to start this,

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because last time we spoke up in Manchester...

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And then again here.

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Here?

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Yeah.

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We didn't record it in Manchester.

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Oh, we...

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We did, didn't we?

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It was at this table.

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At this table.

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And we spoke about what's going on in Bedford,

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the private security trying to fix Bedford.

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So I gave up on Bedford.

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And the reason I gave up on Bedford

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is because everything I was trying

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was creating a political divide.

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And also, it doesn't...

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I realized it didn't matter what I did in Bedford.

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Ultimately, everything is downstream of central government.

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Yeah.

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And so I can go out there and try and help create businesses.

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I was about to open that pizza place, which I pulled out of.

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Did I tell you I pulled out of that?

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Yeah, I know you weren't doing that.

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Yeah.

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And because what's been happening is the country is being hollowed out by this Labour Party.

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Whether it's ideology or incompetence, it doesn't really matter.

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The outcome is the same.

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More businesses are closing in Bedford.

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And as I walk around and talk to people, I ask a very simple question.

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How are you doing?

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What do you think of this government?

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How's work? How's life?

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And it's very similar responses.

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Me and Connor were at a game recently

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and met two teachers that we know.

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They used to play for our women's side.

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Both of them are saying teaching is very hard at the moment.

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They are having to buy supplies themselves.

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What?

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Yeah, they have to buy supplies themselves

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because the schools do not have enough money

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to pay for everything they need.

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So they have to buy supplies themselves.

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Only small.

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It might be some prick sticks or some pens or whatever.

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So that's insane.

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No, it's totally, utterly insane that our government,

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with everything it borrows and everything it spends,

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it cannot support education.

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And it might be controversial, but for me,

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education is actually a priority over what the NHS does for adults.

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So health of the kids first, education of the kids second,

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adults third.

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And that comes back to a broader point whereby, you know,

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where HODL talks about money being a proxy for time.

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If we create debt, we're borrowing from the future.

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So we're borrowing from Connor's future and your kid's future,

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you know, my kid's future.

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And so if you're of the belief that we should stop that

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because our goal as parents to our own children,

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but to the children of the country is to create a better future for them than ours,

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what our parents certainly did for us, then we have to stop the debt.

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but if we also have to stop the debt,

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we have to give them the best education and the best start possible.

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So just talking to them, that was really interesting.

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But there are other problems.

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There are immigration problems now affecting certain state schools

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in that the class dynamic and the demographic split is very, very high.

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You've got a substantial number of children who don't even speak English,

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and they have to work out how to teach these kids in those lessons,

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which means maybe a bit more attention,

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which means a bit more neglect for other kids.

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You've got kids from different cultures

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who don't know how to behave in classrooms.

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So they said it's very hard.

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I met another teacher the other day.

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I was just in the pub.

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You know the one over the road from me?

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It's the guy who does the camera work for us at the football.

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He was there with his mate.

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And he came over to me and said,

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oh, I want to say thanks.

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We gave £500 to 50 schools in Bedford to buy football equipment.

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It's a large amount of money, but small for each school.

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He said it was really helpful because our budgets are difficult.

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And I said, tell me more.

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And he said, we're just under so much pressure.

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He said, I love the job.

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I love teaching, but we're under so much pressure.

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We do not have enough teachers in the school.

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So everybody is overworked.

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We don't have enough funding.

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And he said, they're about to lose their PE premium,

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which is the amount of money they get.

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I think it's about £10,000 to £15,000 a year to support PE.

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He said, that's probably going.

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And I was like, what's the impact of that? He said, well, we do sports matches. I take kids to football matches. And we have a minibus. It's old. It's falling apart. We need a new one. We just won't be able to even replace it, let alone fix it.

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P.E. will get cut.

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And this is basically a lens for the entire problem of the country,

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is that in every single direction, things are getting cut

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because the government doesn't have enough money to pay for public services.

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And then if you go into people's private lives,

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they're also having to make cuts because inflation is higher than wage growth

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and you're having choices to be made.

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Why are the cuts happening? Is this specifically a labor problem?

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No, this is a multi-party, multi-decade problem of the slow creep of socialism.

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Everything that the Bitcoiners tell you about, the ill-discipline around money and the ill-discipline around government budgets.

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I mean

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the best way I can put it is

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is that

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if you're a political party

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it doesn't matter who you are

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it doesn't matter if you're Nigel Farage

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and you sound mean because you want to do

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tough things like reduce welfare

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and reduce immigration

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or you can be super nice and be Zach Polanski

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and say we need to let everybody in the country

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and you know

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fart rainbows

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it doesn't really matter

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the one thing that unites

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every single political party and every single political operative is your goal is to win power

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and then defend power. That's how you think. You might say, I'm here to represent the country. I'm

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your MP. I'm here to represent you in parliament. But really, your goal is to win a seat and defend

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your seat. And that creates incentives. And so if you're a party who wants to defend your power,

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your position stay in government, you have a number of levers that you can pull based around

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like rights, regulation, and money. Let's keep it to those three. There's probably lots more.

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But let's say rights. So the Labour Party heavily criticised, wanting to stop riots during

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Southport, don't like people criticizing people online, go and arrest a few more people for the

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things they say. They create a Lucy Connolly chilling effect. That's an infringement on your

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rights. When they talk about getting rid of jury trials and moving decisions on cases to judges,

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that's the state now arbitrating decisions rather than you or I having the right to go to our

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peers to judge whether we're guilty or not. When they choose to raise taxes on wealthier people

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and give them to poorer people, all the decisions they're making are about the special interests

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they have or the special interests of the groups that will vote for them, unions. So we have new

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employment laws. They are catastrophic for business. Ultimately, they will cost jobs.

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but the unions are so tied to the Labour Party that they basically say if you want our block vote

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you need to do these things and so when Labour won the election they've put these employment

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rules in it's all about special interests of the groups that vote for you and so when you have

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control of those powers the incentives are that you do things which aren't in the best interest

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of the country that's why power centralizes debt increases and ultimately everyone else pays for it

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You pay for running a business and it becomes harder because you have more red tape, more regulation, more tax.

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Or you pay for it as an individual because the money creation through fractional reserve banking

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and Bank of England money creation means you get asset inflation, which always outpaces wages.

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And so in the last 30 years, I think house prices are up about 1,500%, whereas wages are up 500%.

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So it was harder for you to buy a house than your parents.

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and it's harder for Connor to buy a house than me.

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And so when my parents bought their first house,

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it was a four-bedroom detached house.

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And my mum probably wasn't working

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because she was raising my brother and sister,

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and my dad was a low-level aircraft engineer.

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But they bought a four-bedroom house.

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Connor's got a high-profile job now.

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He's on a podcast. He's a producer-slash-editor.

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If he wants to buy a house in Bedford,

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most likely the one he can afford on his salary now,

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which probably isn't far off what my dad would have had at a similar time,

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is a one-bedroom flat.

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That's inflation at its core.

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And so really we are in constant decay.

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It's just a constant decay of the country

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because the incentives are such that we live in an inflationary environment.

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I think the easiest thing to blame it on is the money,

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which is great because this is a Bitcoin show.

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See, I don't know if it is that...

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Do you think Labour truly are trying to defend their seat right now?

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Because they must be the most unpopular political party in the UK

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this quickly after an election in my lifetime.

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No one is happy with what they're doing.

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So are they actually trying to defend their seat?

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Well, put yourself in their position.

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If you're Keir Starmer and you wake up this morning,

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and you read the papers, you look on social media,

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and you have your advisors,

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they're all saying this is not going well.

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So what are his choices?

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I'm literally asking you as Keir Starmer,

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what are you thinking right now?

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Not as Danny Knowles as Keir Starmer.

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I can only think as me.

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I know what I'd do.

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What are his choices?

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I honestly don't know what he can do.

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He can't be fiscally responsible.

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No, no, but his actual choices are resign or carry on.

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Oh, yeah, and he's going to carry on

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until there's a vote of no confidence.

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Yes, but a vote of no confidence

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is not going to happen because they've got a parliamentary majority.

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And so a parliamentary...

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I'd resign.

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He can get pressure internally, but your choice is to resign.

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Or you say, look, there's an election in three and a half years.

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You know, maybe you perhaps convince yourself.

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A bit like if you're a manager of Manchester United,

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that's a great example.

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Amaran?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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How did last year go?

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Terribly.

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Terribly.

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Do you think he blamed himself or do you think he blamed the history, the infrastructure, the players?

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I know I can sort this out next season.

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And he's kind of turned it around a little bit, right?

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Well, Keir Starmer might go, well, Conservatives handed me a shit show.

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$22 billion black hole.

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I've got to turn this around and it can't be done in a year.

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But in three years, if we do this, this and this and the OBR is right,

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by the time the next election, we might turn this around.

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But the problem is, like, the brave choices he has to make are

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do something very, very serious with the NHS.

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Like, that is an absolute mess.

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I was speaking to a family member.

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I don't want to dox him, but he worked for the NHS for, like, 30 years.

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He's in, like, private industry now.

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But he was telling me just how bad the NHS is.

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And it's literally, it's over.

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Like, people haven't accepted it yet, but it's 100% over.

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Yeah, totally.

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Like, his, one of my elderly relatives went into A&E with, like, an emergency

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and was in there for three days sat in a chair waiting to get bed.

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Like, it's absolutely insane.

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That's some third world stuff.

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Interestingly, because that's an anecdotal point,

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I've also heard some good anecdotal points

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since Labour come in on accident and emergency.

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So somebody I know, daughter, a few days before Christmas,

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fell over, banged her head on a radiator, cut it open.

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She was seen within half an hour.

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And I've heard other anecdotal data around that.

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And I think that is one of the things that Labour have put money into.

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But that comes to a broader point,

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because you can say the NHS is screwed.

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This is a hard question for you to answer,

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so I can answer it for you if you can't,

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because you've been away in Australia.

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But name me something that has got better under government,

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because of government decisions, in the last 25 years.

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Something that's got better? I honestly don't know.

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From afar, well, you've just said the NHS hasn't.

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No, that's definitely not.

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I can tell you education.

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I've just told you education hasn't.

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Yep.

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Borders?

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Definitely worse.

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Roads?

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Probably worse.

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I don't know.

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I've not spent enough time here.

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They're worse.

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Yeah.

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Councils?

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I'm sure they're worse.

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Up and down the country,

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there are so many,

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I think Section 114 it's called,

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where they're going to,

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essentially into bankruptcy.

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They've got no money.

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Okay, what else does the government do?

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Do you know what's insane here?

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I was in rural northern Kenya

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before I came here,

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and the phone signal service

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was infinitely better

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than in the middle of the Cotswolds.

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What did you say last week?

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When we were driving along and couldn't get a reception.

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I think it was something like,

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how can we put rockets up in space and not get a reception?

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Yeah, and the internet here is dreadful.

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So you should listen to Tucker Carlson

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just in an interview with Matt Walsh.

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And it was really interesting

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because Matt Walsh said at one point,

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he's like reiterating what I'm saying.

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So just to finish off what I was saying is,

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nothing has got better.

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Matt Walsh was saying the same to Tucker Carlson.

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Everything has got worse.

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He said, just going out for dinner.

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You go out for dinner now, go to a pizza place.

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It doesn't matter which pizza place you go to.

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They all get their ingredients from the same place.

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It's not like they're importing, I mean, someplace.

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Like flour from Italy.

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Yeah, and mozzarella from Napoli.

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And, you know, I don't know where they get tomatoes from.

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Tomatoes going from America, you know.

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They were never in Italy.

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Is that true?

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Yeah.

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Huh.

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But there's a small number of suppliers of food.

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and so when you get your cheese now,

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you're getting pre-grated, frozen, big packs of cheese,

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goes in the freezer, you get it out, you spread it on the pizza.

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Like food is actually getting noticeably shit.

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Yeah, especially the chains.

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Yeah, and you get less and less of the, you know,

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our coffee shop is a locally run place

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where we've sourced the best coffee from Monmouth here in London

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and we get Jersey milk.

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We're not making any money because we're trying to make the best cup of coffee possible.

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But most people are going to Costa or Starbucks.

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Their product is worse than ours.

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But they can do it because they have regulatory capture.

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When you have strong employment laws and strong accounting laws and tax laws,

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they have large departments that handle and manage this,

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and they have the ability to move money offshore.

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It's very hard to compete.

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We've created an environment which is great for huge businesses,

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terrible for small businesses.

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So what we're actually doing is we're killing the middle class.

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It's just the homogenization of everything, though.

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It's like no one wants to make anything that's slightly out there

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in case it causes offense.

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Whether that's food or music or film,

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everything has just become homogenized,

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like hit the biggest audience possible,

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because that's the only way you make the economics of running a business work.

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So that's good, because we should have that conversation

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we've had before about film and music.

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I'll come back to that because that's a really important point.

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There's like the tyranny of algorithms, which is, I think, a really important point.

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But just on this, there are people who want to run local businesses.

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It's just really hard to make money because if you've got, say, a coffee shop,

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your first bill is your business rates, which is a tax you pay before you even do anything.

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When you buy your products, because it's food-based, you don't get to reclaim the vat.

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So I can't reclaim the VAT on the beans because it's a raw product.

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It's a raw food product.

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But I have to charge 20% VAT on the cup of coffee,

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which goes straight to the government.

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So 20% of everything we sell goes to the government.

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And then you have the business rates, which works at about 8%.

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So we're at about 28%.

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And then you got minimum wage which has increased I mean minimum wage is a bit of a joke for our kind of business because it goes back to Matt Walsh point He said all these restaurants they just got a bit rubbish He said the people that work in them now is really interesting because it used to be

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someone like Connor's first job, or my daughter's first job. But actually now, we've had such a large

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influx of immigration, that most of these jobs now are being done by immigrants. And so the

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experience has changed as well and so that kind of that kind of localism has gone all because the

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minimum wage has gone up the difference between a hiring a 16 year old and a 30 year old with

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experience is kind of worth that extra pound an hour and the mad thing is it's like if you take

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on a young person i don't know 18 year old and i've got minimum wage i've got to pay them i don't

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know what it say it's 10 pound 50 i have to give them 12.3 percent of the days worked in holiday

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Now, when I had my first job, when I worked in a shop, I didn't get holiday allowance.

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No, I don't know holiday pay.

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You didn't get holiday allowance.

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You know, you've got to throw in sick pay.

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You've got to throw in employment rights.

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You've got to throw in maternity.

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You've got to throw all this stuff in, which basically is a tax on the business.

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Now, what's happened to energy prices?

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We have the highest energy prices, I think, in the world.

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Put that all in together.

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How many businesses could exist, middle-class businesses, local businesses could exist that

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don't. And so when you drive around a town center and everything's closed and boarded up and shit,

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but you go to the edge of a town and you see one of these little pods of like there's a pizza

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express, a McDonald's and a Starbucks, it kind of makes sense. And so going back to the broader

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point is that we have decayed our country by taking more and more. The government takes more

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and more. They take rights, they take money through taxation, they take money through inflation,

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and they take, how do you put it, ability through red tape. So if that constantly gets worse,

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harder, more difficult, you have less of it being done. And so you are burning through the middle

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class. And when you burn through the middle class, what do you have left? You have a working class,

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and an elite.

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And then what happens?

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In that scenario,

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the working classes depend upon the state

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and the elite wins whatever.

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Think about the elites.

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They win in every fucking environment.

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So I keep going back to,

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I've been hammering Zach Polanski

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and Gary Government,

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Gary Economics on,

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because neither of them

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will talk about inflation

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in the way it should be talked about.

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Because both of them support

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inflationary economics.

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Because both of them

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want a continuation of what we have,

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which is money creation, because neither of them ideologically can come to the table with an idea

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where we must balance the books. Therefore, all their kind of speeches and YouTube videos and

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Twitter videos about tax the rich and we must look after the poor is all bollocks because the

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biggest tax you can put on the rich and the best tax relief you can put on the poor is getting rid

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inflation. That's it. The rich make the majority of their money through absolute inflation.

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And the poorest get crushed most through inflation of cost of living and stagnated wages.

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But neither of them will deal with it. So to get to the main point on this, where I've come to is

497
00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:03,840
that the problem of our country and the problem of Western liberal democracies, US, all of Europe,

498
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,800
to an extent Australia and maybe New Zealand, I don't know enough,

499
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,860
is that the progressive project has failed.

500
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,440
The progressive project has completely and utterly failed

501
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,000
and I don't think we can vote our way out of this easily.

502
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,140
So what do you think has to happen?

503
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,440
Well, I think the choices on the table are quite clear.

504
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,040
I'll tell you what I think is going to happen

505
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,000
is we're going to keep having this kind of extreme swing from left to right

506
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,940
where each side treats each other as an existential crisis.

507
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,060
In the US, Kamala Harris was an existential crisis

508
00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:45,160
because of the crazy left-wing woke stuff, so we get Trump.

509
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,260
But Trump is now an existential crisis to the left.

510
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:51,700
So their next election, if it's Gavin Newsom v. J.D. Vance,

511
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:54,860
it will be treated as an existential crisis if you lose.

512
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,380
You pick a side, and government still wins.

513
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,340
In the end, government still wins.

514
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,080
In the UK, we're heading to that through possibly and probably

515
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,940
some kind of left-wing coalition between the Greens and the Lib Dems,

516
00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:11,920
and then a right-wing coalition between Reform and Conservative.

517
00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:12,800
Is that what you think will happen?

518
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:16,480
Yeah, because Reform has started to slip a bit,

519
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,180
and Conservatives are coming back a bit.

520
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,820
And if you cannot get a parliamentary majority,

521
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,280
you don't have the power to make changes.

522
00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:27,280
And you need that. You need your 350 seats.

523
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:49,620
And so – but what's happening is both sides are treating each other as an existential crisis. Whoever wins has the levers of power. And in that scenario, it's like, do I believe that Nigel Farage and reform can fix this country? I believe they can talk about fixing this country to a point where people who vote for them think they will fix it and certainly will do some things.

524
00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:52,520
and it's the exact same argument on the left.

525
00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:57,100
And so if they can't fix this,

526
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:58,280
which I don't think any of them can,

527
00:25:58,860 --> 00:26:00,640
because I think once, say, reform get into power,

528
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,180
they're like, fuck, look at this mess.

529
00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:02,920
We can't afford this.

530
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,720
We can't afford that.

531
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,040
Shit, we might have to raise taxes or just borrow.

532
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,980
Like, this is such a mess.

533
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,500
We just get a continuation of the problem

534
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,320
because the problem is constraints and power.

535
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:12,820
That's it.

536
00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:15,660
But a coalition is a continuation of the problem.

537
00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:16,820
Like, the only...

538
00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:18,020
So I don't pay any attention to politics.

539
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,040
I don't really care for it.

540
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:21,660
But, and I don't know exactly,

541
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,600
I definitely don't know everything reform stands for.

542
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:25,520
But as an outsider looking in,

543
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,000
the idea of reform is exciting to me

544
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,200
because it looks, at least from the outside,

545
00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:30,700
as meaningful change for the UK,

546
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,620
where it's really, since in my entire lifetime,

547
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,100
the parties have just been swinging

548
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:36,180
like center left, center right.

549
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,300
Nothing's ever actually changed.

550
00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:38,660
It's just government growing bigger.

551
00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:41,320
Whereas reform seem like that kind of outside candidate

552
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,380
that can be almost like when Trump was elected

553
00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:44,320
the first time in the US.

554
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,060
And it's a signal that something meaningful

555
00:26:47,060 --> 00:26:47,960
is about to change.

556
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:49,560
But if they get into a coalition,

557
00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:52,200
with the Conservatives, that is not interesting to me.

558
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,200
It depends the balance of power in that coalition.

559
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,020
It might mean they have full control,

560
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,040
they elect the Prime Minister,

561
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,540
Conservatives get to put some things on the table.

562
00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:08,620
In that scenario, what you want is a Conservative party

563
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:10,660
that's more right-wing than Reform,

564
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,300
so it doesn't stop them doing what Reform wants to do,

565
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,500
rather than the more Lib Dem version of Conservative,

566
00:27:17,020 --> 00:27:19,040
which will dilute what they want to do.

567
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,780
But you're small c conservative, right?

568
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:22,920
Classic liberal.

569
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,000
Classic liberal, okay.

570
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,000
Same thing.

571
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:25,220
Yeah.

572
00:27:27,460 --> 00:27:29,800
What you see is exciting about reform,

573
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,740
a lefty sees about Zach Palancey and Green.

574
00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:39,200
Because in their worldview, reform is an existential crisis.

575
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:41,140
They believe in multiculturalism.

576
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:42,740
They believe in immigration.

577
00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:44,980
They think diversity makes us stronger.

578
00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:50,480
and Zach Polanski is going to Calais and making videos of people coming over on the boats and why,

579
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:52,120
and he's the good guy.

580
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,820
He's the guy saying, tax the rich.

581
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,020
They see exactly what you see, but from their vantage point.

582
00:27:59,380 --> 00:28:03,400
And that's the existential crisis of government, not party.

583
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,600
This is why I'm not aligned to any party at the moment.

584
00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:09,080
I'm not going to vote in the next election as it is.

585
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,620
I certainly won't vote for reform.

586
00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:12,220
I'm happy to criticize reform.

587
00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:13,280
I'll criticize the conservatives.

588
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,280
I never will vote for left because I don't think the left...

589
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,460
Look, if you ask me for a version of the world I want to live in,

590
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:28,280
I'm always going to choose conservatism over kind of progressive left ideas.

591
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280
But I'm not voting for anyone at the moment because I don't...

592
00:28:32,020 --> 00:28:33,740
I think whoever you vote for, you get decay.

593
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,160
You might get slower decay under reform.

594
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,780
You might get faster decay under a green Lib Dem coalition.

595
00:28:42,780 --> 00:28:47,460
but I'm not voting for decay because nobody is dealing with what I personally see as the problem,

596
00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:48,960
which is constraints on power.

597
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:56,160
I mean, you know how much I love American history and how much I read American history.

598
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,040
And I must have read the US Constitution 30 times now.

599
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:10,420
But I've been researching, I've been going a bit deeper in what happened after the Revolutionary War.

600
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:13,140
what happened with the 13 colonies.

601
00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:15,600
So I don't know how much of this you know,

602
00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:18,620
but afterwards they had the Articles of Confederation,

603
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,820
which was how the colonies would work together.

604
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,800
By the way, if anyone listening is American who's studied this

605
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,800
and I get anything wrong, please do correct them.

606
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,760
But for the sake of the argument,

607
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,160
they had the Articles of Confederation.

608
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,260
They were seen as a bit weak.

609
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,240
And there were issues between the colonies,

610
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,480
essentially the 13 states,

611
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,820
in that interstate commerce was a problem

612
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:39,600
because people were putting tariffs on.

613
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,220
Not everyone had a singular, everyone had different currencies.

614
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:46,420
So you didn't kind of always want the other state's currency.

615
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,080
And also there was a weakness whereby like a small state could be influenced by other countries.

616
00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:54,060
Say Britain came back over and went to Delaware and went,

617
00:29:54,220 --> 00:29:56,760
you know, like you're a bit of a small state, you're struggling.

618
00:29:57,340 --> 00:29:59,740
We'll lend you some money. We'll help you rebuild yourself.

619
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,900
We just want to be part of this.

620
00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:04,060
So you could get that infiltration from other countries.

621
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:09,500
And so the Federalists made the argument that you need a strong federal government

622
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:11,920
to make the states work better and defend themselves.

623
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,080
And so they argued for the Constitution,

624
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:17,940
for a strong federal government.

625
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,520
You also had the anti-federalists,

626
00:30:19,580 --> 00:30:21,080
which, by the way, when I first heard about these,

627
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:21,960
I think it was Hoddle said to me,

628
00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:23,480
you've got to go and read the anti-federalist papers.

629
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,600
I assumed they were just people

630
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,340
who were against the creation of federal government.

631
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,260
But it was deeper than that.

632
00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:32,920
It was more about preserving liberty.

633
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480
They just fought out a tyrannical British government

634
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,940
who wanted to tax them without representation.

635
00:30:37,940 --> 00:30:40,720
and they didn't want to return to that.

636
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,100
And their views was that a strong federal government

637
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,340
would always centralize, okay,

638
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:46,880
would always become tyrannical.

639
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,960
So you had this tension between federal government of,

640
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,340
you know, a strong federal government

641
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:55,320
that could defend the country

642
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,540
and make the country operate better,

643
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:59,300
but with states' rights independent.

644
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,340
And then you had the anti-federalists

645
00:31:01,340 --> 00:31:02,120
who were all about liberty.

646
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,260
And you had this tension of the two.

647
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,940
And that's where you ended up getting the constitution.

648
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,340
But this is a really interesting thing.

649
00:31:07,340 --> 00:31:10,700
Name me one part of the... Can you name me a part of the Constitution?

650
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,620
I mean, yes. The right to bear arms.

651
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:16,900
Okay, cool. So this is something I learned about it.

652
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,660
It's not really the Constitution.

653
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,440
So the Constitution itself is how the federal government works.

654
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:28,940
The separations of powers, the executive office, etc., etc.

655
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:34,820
What happened was, when these debates happened regarding the Constitution,

656
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:37,760
the Anti-Federalists wanted a Bill of Rights,

657
00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:39,060
which was to say,

658
00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:40,920
okay, if we agree to this,

659
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,960
we want individual rights for us.

660
00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:45,220
And so the First Amendment,

661
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Second Amendment,

662
00:31:45,980 --> 00:31:46,220
and so on,

663
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:47,800
I think there were 10 amendments to begin with,

664
00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:52,680
were created as a Bill of Rights.

665
00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:54,400
It's actually not the Constitution,

666
00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:55,000
it's the Bill of Rights.

667
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Very interesting.

668
00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:57,080
But the Bill of Rights is appended

669
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,940
into the Constitution,

670
00:31:57,940 --> 00:31:59,040
so it's one document.

671
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:00,580
But it's actually a Bill of Rights.

672
00:32:00,580 --> 00:32:02,760
And they were created to create the protection

673
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880
of liberty of the individual.

674
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,760
And so when you look back at that,

675
00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:11,500
it was that tension between having what you want

676
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:13,080
from a strong federal government

677
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,200
while at the same time protecting the liberty of the individuals.

678
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,420
You could argue that the federalists won

679
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:22,920
because they wanted a central government and they got it.

680
00:32:23,540 --> 00:32:26,780
But if you look now, the anti-federalists were right

681
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:28,720
because essentially...

682
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,740
They did centralise power.

683
00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:39,720
Centralized power, and you have now got this factionalism problem, whereby, you know, when I hear about the right to bear arms is there to protect against a tyrannical government.

684
00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:52,500
I mean, I think if Britain was tyrannical and deserved a revolutionary war, then the current government is even more tyrannical than what Britain was to the US.

685
00:32:52,700 --> 00:33:00,120
Yes, we govern from distance, from 3,000 miles away, and it takes three months on a ship or whatever to get there.

686
00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:04,500
But actually, I think it's way more tyrannical now.

687
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:11,460
But you're not going to get people raise their guns and fight a tyrannical, this form of tyrannical government,

688
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,660
because it's their government, the people with the guns.

689
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,840
And we're okay with our tyrannical government, right?

690
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:21,340
They might raise their guns if they get a tyrannical left-wing government afterwards,

691
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,400
which infringes too much, which really is civil war.

692
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:36,400
So I've started to see, I don't see any scenario where the right to bear arms and leading to the country united to fight against the government.

693
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:43,080
I see it as the only scenario is there's a civil war because the sides are so far apart.

694
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400
And you probably won't know where I'm going with this.

695
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,600
The point is that if you don't have enough constraints on government,

696
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,360
government will become tyrannical.

697
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,760
I will argue that the US is tyrannical now,

698
00:33:57,860 --> 00:33:59,320
and I'll argue the UK is tyrannical,

699
00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:00,720
I'll argue that Europe is tyrannical,

700
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,220
because we are now essentially serves.

701
00:34:04,460 --> 00:34:06,700
They don't serve the people, we serve government.

702
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,220
We go to work to serve government,

703
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,720
and we are constrained by the limited rights we have

704
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:12,960
and the bureaucracy we're within,

705
00:34:13,180 --> 00:34:14,840
and the money they let us have at the end.

706
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,500
That's not what government should be.

707
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,260
And so if you believe the anti-federalists were right,

708
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:25,800
the only solution for me personally is that we have to move to a place

709
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,180
where we implement new constraints of power.

710
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:31,040
So I believe in the UK we need a codified constitution.

711
00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:32,520
We have a constitution, it's not codified,

712
00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:35,160
which basically means I can't sue the government,

713
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,000
they can do what the fuck they want, parliament sovereign.

714
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,540
That's okay, like a non-codified constitution is okay a century or two ago

715
00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:46,880
where we were good chaps and the aristocracy ran the place

716
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,940
for the benefit of the people.

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,220
We don't have good politicians anymore.

718
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,720
I could probably name you three that I think are decent,

719
00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:54,340
have a backbone.

720
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,440
But the point doesn't really matter

721
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,280
whether you have good politicians or bad politicians.

722
00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:00,800
The incentives are there for power.

723
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,340
And so without a codified constitution,

724
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,500
which limits what they can do, it's always going to be this way.

725
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,400
This is the nature of man.

726
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:13,220
So I'm only interested in a party that comes out and says,

727
00:35:13,220 --> 00:35:17,880
I'm an MP, I'm going to be your Prime Minister.

728
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,480
The first thing you need to know is the incentives for me and my party

729
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,480
are to damage you as a country, as every party has done in the past.

730
00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:30,540
We want to build a stronger country, so the only way we can do that

731
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:33,520
is with having constraints on power on what we can do.

732
00:35:33,940 --> 00:35:37,500
So the incentives aren't for us to do short-term things

733
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,140
that damage the country for the benefit of us as a party.

734
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:43,920
we should be here to govern you within strict limitations.

735
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,340
And by the way, we should have a Bill of Rights

736
00:35:47,340 --> 00:35:48,420
which protects you as individuals.

737
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,620
You should have free speech.

738
00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:52,300
We shouldn't be able to surveil you.

739
00:35:53,420 --> 00:35:55,700
You should have the right to a jury trial.

740
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480
We should put everything in place to protect you.

741
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,680
The government who comes out and says that,

742
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:01,520
I'm like, you got my vote.

743
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,620
Yeah, but that's never going to happen.

744
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:04,420
Unless you run for MP, that's never going to happen.

745
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,500
Or you create a popular movement, which I'm trying to do.

746
00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:07,980
Which is this, I do not consent.

747
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:08,760
I no longer consent.

748
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:09,660
I no longer consent.

749
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,640
But, so I have some issues with this.

750
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:12,880
Okay.

751
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Because-

752
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,080
Should we explain what it is?

753
00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:15,440
Yeah, yeah.

754
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:16,460
You explain what it is.

755
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,820
So I've come to that conclusion on my own.

756
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:22,280
So let's talk about what consent is.

757
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,980
There's explicit consent in a-

758
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:24,640
Yeah, there's a website.

759
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:25,680
There's explicit consent.

760
00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:26,900
We have an election.

761
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,660
We vote for Labour.

762
00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:31,560
They have the explicit consent of the country.

763
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:33,060
And they have parliamentary majority.

764
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,320
They can make decisions.

765
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,500
I believe assuming consent is a mistake.

766
00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:43,040
I think consent is fluid, and I can withdraw my consent.

767
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,660
Now, what does that actually mean?

768
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:47,720
As an individual on my own, it means fuck all.

769
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,880
I no longer consent to the government, so what?

770
00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:50,880
Fuck off, we're doing this anyway.

771
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,360
If a million people say I no longer consent,

772
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,060
well, we're a voting bloc like the unions are.

773
00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:01,020
If you want us to vote for you,

774
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:02,920
you should play that Nick Fuentes video in a minute, Connor.

775
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:06,360
But if you want us to vote for you, these are our demands,

776
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,340
and maybe we get something.

777
00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:10,540
It's a bit like if you look at the libertarian movement in America.

778
00:37:10,540 --> 00:37:13,740
They have no power, but they got Ross Ulbricht released.

779
00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:15,340
That's a start.

780
00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:18,940
The libertarians did something big and important there.

781
00:37:18,940 --> 00:37:20,340
They got Ross Ulbricht released.

782
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:23,340
They said to Trump, you want the libertarian vote?

783
00:37:23,340 --> 00:37:24,740
You release Ross Ulbricht.

784
00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:27,940
They got the libertarian vote, they released Ross Ulbricht.

785
00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:30,740
Now we know there are...

786
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:32,540
It was Angela McArdle we had in, didn't she?

787
00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:33,540
She's a libertarian.

788
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:35,940
She's now in there as part of the government,

789
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:42,580
starting to influence with libertarian ideas. Okay, so I'm pro-liberty guy. If I can build a

790
00:37:42,580 --> 00:37:49,200
movement that has enough people and just say reform are winning, I can say you do not get

791
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,840
this vote. This vote is not going to vote unless you do a bill of rights. One thing, give me one

792
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,440
thing. I want a bill of rights that protects speech in this country like it's protected in America.

793
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:05,260
Every single person that's currently in jail for a speech crime is released. Everybody who's been

794
00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:10,400
historically prosecuted for a speech crime, they all, I don't know what the term is where you

795
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:17,500
revoke their, but they all get removed, and we have a codified, binded protection in the future

796
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:22,140
for speech. If we win just that, we've done something big and important for the country.

797
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:31,500
But can you do more? Like, if you make the country believe that we are in charge, not the

798
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:36,380
politics, not the 650 people in Whitehall or the thousands working in the civil service

799
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:41,960
who are destroying the country. If you make the country believe we are in charge, and they'll

800
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,340
ask, how are we in charge? It's like, well, government only operates and gets to exist

801
00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:51,880
because millions of us go about our daily business every day. But if we stop doing that,

802
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,720
maybe the starting point, let's go in fantasy world. Say 10 million people sign up to I no

803
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:07,140
longer consent. Okay, we want a Bill of Rights for the country. On the 1st of February, it's a national

804
00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:13,920
strike. None of us are going to work. Does anything happen? Maybe, maybe not. Okay, two-day strike,

805
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:20,500
three-day strike. The country has to believe, and enough people have to believe, that they can force

806
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:25,960
government to make change, because government goes with the wind. I could never have imagined as a

807
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,540
scenario where a Labour Party became so anti-immigration, but it became such a hot topic in the country,

808
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:37,960
they had to be. And so if you can express the will of the nation to the politicians, they will have

809
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,340
to go with the will of the nation. And look, I know this is all a big fantasy, but what else?

810
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,120
What are your other options? Well, so this is the two things that I have an issue with are,

811
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:50,420
what does not consenting actually mean? Because you're not asking people to take action here,

812
00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:55,100
as in stop paying their taxes or stop paying road tax or whatever it might be. This is just

813
00:39:55,100 --> 00:40:02,840
signing up to be part of this group? I am saying right now, all you have to do is say

814
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:11,160
two things. This country doesn't work anymore. I no longer consent. And you have to understand

815
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,640
one thing is that individually, it means nothing. Collectively, it means everything.

816
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,160
If we can build a collective, we can build a movement.

817
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miner purchased. How many people voted in the last election? Is it about 60% or something like that?

838
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,420
60%, yeah. So there's essentially 40 people that don't consent to this government.

839
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,580
But like the big issue I have is why you haven't brought Bitcoin into this as Pete the Bitcoiner.

840
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:21,380
I got a really easy answer.

841
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,260
But I think I'm not going to like your answer because I think you're going to say it's going to put people off.

842
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,580
No, I have brought Bitcoin into this.

843
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,420
Okay, how?

844
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,020
Bitcoin is central to this.

845
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,640
I just don't say Bitcoin.

846
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Why?

847
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,900
Because it distracts from, let's call it an A-B test.

848
00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:39,860
Every time I talk to somebody who doesn't understand Bitcoin

849
00:42:39,860 --> 00:42:43,560
and I explain to them the problems with the money, they get it.

850
00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:46,800
When I get to Bitcoin, I lose more than half of them.

851
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,580
But my problem is, like, Bitcoin can be the action.

852
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:53,880
Like, you're not asking for people to stop paying taxes or whatever,

853
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:57,040
but Bitcoin is actually, like Nick Carter's article,

854
00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:59,820
Most Peaceful Revolution, like, this is how you take power from the government.

855
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,400
And, like, it fits so well with this movement

856
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,200
that I don't know why Bitcoin's not a part of it.

857
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,100
But it is. I just don't bring it up.

858
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,500
But if you don't bring it up, then no one knows it's part of the movement.

859
00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:13,580
And if you get a million people, 10 million people sign up to this thing,

860
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,660
and they start saving in Bitcoin,

861
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:19,760
then they're essentially starving the government from that income.

862
00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:21,920
Well, they're not starving it.

863
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:23,160
They're just not spending it.

864
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,500
But Bitcoin is still integrated with the tax system, the spend system.

865
00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:28,340
So you're talking about saving.

866
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,880
No, it's not even that.

867
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,680
It's that you're taking that out of the fiat system that they control.

868
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,400
Sure.

869
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,840
Sure. They kind of control the Bitcoin system through regulation anyway. Let's just be real

870
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,340
about that.

871
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
But it's not fueling the debt-based fiat system for them.

872
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:48,380
Sure. But it might be, you know, essentially, is that the accelerationist argument in that

873
00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:52,840
if we take it out, they have to print more fiat, it accelerates the, yeah, sure. Let

874
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,240
me come at this a different direction. Why are you sat that side of the table right now?

875
00:43:58,060 --> 00:43:59,620
Because this is what Bitcoin did.

876
00:43:59,780 --> 00:44:00,880
Okay. And so what am I?

877
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:01,580
The guest.

878
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,980
Okay. And so what do I do now?

879
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,220
You tell me stuff.

880
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,920
No, no, no, but what's my job?

881
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:06,780
What do you mean?

882
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,720
Like, you're the host of What Bitcoin Did, what am I?

883
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,340
You're the host of the Pete McCormack Show.

884
00:44:10,540 --> 00:44:12,100
And you were there through everything.

885
00:44:12,220 --> 00:44:13,160
Why did I choose to do it?

886
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,660
Well, I mean, a few reasons.

887
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:16,720
You got sick of talking about Bitcoin.

888
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,240
You wanted to make a change in Bedford.

889
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:19,160
You want to make a change in the UK.

890
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:19,700
Yes.

891
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,120
I personally went as far as I could with Bitcoin.

892
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,440
I got to, like, your podcast is the most important podcast in Bitcoin.

893
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,600
You've absolutely crushed it.

894
00:44:29,860 --> 00:44:32,900
You do the necessary important job in Bitcoin,

895
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:36,980
which is when people come in and they want to learn, they're there,

896
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,620
but you keep the crowd in.

897
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:42,160
Like, you manage the Bitcoin crowd and accumulate people in.

898
00:44:42,460 --> 00:44:45,060
Okay, I'm for the pre-Bitcoin crowd,

899
00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:48,800
and in not doing the podcast, I came out of the bubble.

900
00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:52,600
So my life isn't now going to Nashville with you

901
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,140
and having dinner with Harry Sudock or going to Vegas

902
00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:58,860
and shooting guns with HODL and just talking about Bitcoin.

903
00:44:58,860 --> 00:45:06,920
By leaving the bubble, I'm now in the real world where hardly anyone is talking about Bitcoin.

904
00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:19,200
And the time it will take to educate and get them into Bitcoin will slow what I need to do, which is educate them why the financial system doesn't work.

905
00:45:19,660 --> 00:45:25,240
I put up a post yesterday criticizing Zach Polanski and Gary Government about this exact thing.

906
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:38,620
The minute I go buy Bitcoin, I lose a bunch of people that go, oh, you're just promoting that fucking scam. Bitcoin's a scam. It's a Ponzi. Like, just lose people. I don't need to convince them of Bitcoin. They will get there.

907
00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:50,260
I need to get a coalition of people who realize the country doesn't work, realize the financial system doesn't work, realizes, you know, you can temporarily vote your way out of this.

908
00:45:50,420 --> 00:45:56,920
You can get a Bukele, you know, that tough CEO, strong man who comes in, looks authoritarian, a little bit scary.

909
00:45:57,020 --> 00:45:58,560
That bunch of people are like, great, he's doing what I want.

910
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,920
Other people are shit scared.

911
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:06,560
But in a country like the UK, if that person swings too far to the right, you're just going to get a swing back to the left.

912
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,920
What we need is to bind government to limitations.

913
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,300
What was it Safe Dean said?

914
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:22,540
The biggest threat to Bitcoin is a government that has a responsible monetary policy.

915
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:29,120
In some ways, what I'm doing is kind of operating the threat to Bitcoin

916
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,500
in that what I'm saying is we need to bind government to certain constraints.

917
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:41,020
one of those constraints would be for example let's spitball some ideas here

918
00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:49,960
government cannot grow faster than gdp so set it as a percentage say say we look which i don't know

919
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,320
say we're 40 now we know that's terrible the you know we were great when it's 28 okay it has to be

920
00:46:54,320 --> 00:47:03,260
28 a bit like your home budget it's 28 that's what it has to be let's say like one of the things that

921
00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:08,620
people really hate about the Labour Party is their manifesto explicitly said, we will not raise taxes

922
00:47:08,620 --> 00:47:12,640
on working people. They got into power, realized financially, couldn't pay for all the things they

923
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:19,380
wanted to do. And so the first budget they did, they raised national insurance, employers'

924
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,500
national insurance. Now, anyone with half a brain knows that there are no corporate taxes. Do you

925
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:29,840
know the argument? There are no corporate taxes. So this is what Reagan said. If Colin, if you can

926
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,780
find that interview, it's brilliant. There are no corporate

927
00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:33,840
taxes because companies have

928
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,660
to make a profit. The minute you put a new tax on them,

929
00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:37,840
that goes into the cost of the product

930
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,820
to the people. So the end consumer always

931
00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:41,300
pays for that tax. So

932
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:43,580
a tax, a national, working,

933
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,080
sorry, a employer's national insurance

934
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,820
on my coffee shop means I have

935
00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:49,820
to raise the price of the coffee. So it's a

936
00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:50,760
tax on consumers.

937
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,860
So they lied, and they put a tax

938
00:47:53,860 --> 00:47:55,860
on working people. They made sure all products

939
00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:57,760
were more expensive and more companies closed

940
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,700
down. Okay, we get to the second budget.

941
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,740
Bear in mind, they've already said they're not going to raise taxes on working people.

942
00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:04,580
Okay, get to the second budget.

943
00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:06,020
What were the taxes they did?

944
00:48:07,020 --> 00:48:07,840
I'm trying to fucking remember.

945
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Schools?

946
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,400
Increased national insurance.

947
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,000
Yeah, that was the first budget.

948
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,380
The second budget, they...

949
00:48:14,380 --> 00:48:15,520
Why can I not remember this?

950
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,820
Because I should know this recently.

951
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:19,340
Look it up.

952
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,980
But they raised taxes again in the last election.

953
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,720
Oh, no, that's what they did.

954
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,720
They froze the thresholds.

955
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,840
So the thresholds are based on knowing there's inflation.

956
00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:32,140
You raise the thresholds for the different tax rates.

957
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:36,640
If you freeze those, it's essentially a tax

958
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,740
because life's got more expensive,

959
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,320
but the thresholds haven't moved with inflation.

960
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,180
They froze them for another five years or three years or whatever.

961
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:47,760
It's another tax on working people.

962
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,220
And so they lied.

963
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,600
They did a manifesto.

964
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:52,320
They made a promise, and then they lied.

965
00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:55,460
Well, why don't we bind governments to their manifestos

966
00:48:55,460 --> 00:49:03,500
or debt. If we know debt is stealing for the future, if a government cannot balance, if every

967
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:11,400
government should come in with a budget and a mandate. Okay, so say reform come in and say,

968
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:17,260
we're going to balance the books. Labour are not going to win an election if they come in and say,

969
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:21,880
we're going to borrow, I don't know, 150 billion. Because everyone's going to go, well, we'll go with

970
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,260
the mother who balances the books. Okay, but what if reform come in and they get to their first

971
00:49:26,260 --> 00:49:31,100
budget and they say, we can't balance the books, we need to borrow 100 billion. Okay, so you failed

972
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:36,200
on your manifesto, that immediately triggers a referendum. And the referendum says, do they

973
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:42,720
continue a new election? Once you change the incentives that the public gets to vote on

974
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,800
whether it wants more debt or not, a government cannot get more debt. But this is why I think

975
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,500
Bitcoin needs to be a part of this. Because if you get people taking money out of the banking

976
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:53,420
sector. It limits the amount of debt that these governments can take. You're not going to sell,

977
00:49:53,860 --> 00:50:00,620
you can sell revolution to the country. You cannot sell Bitcoin to 70 million people like that.

978
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:05,400
Danny, we've been trying for years. No, I know, but you stepped outside of Bitcoin to try and like

979
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,840
talk to a broader audience. And the idea was always that Bitcoin was going to be a part of

980
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,460
the conversation. And this is where it fits perfectly into the conversation. You're trying

981
00:50:12,460 --> 00:50:18,560
to do a peaceful, like disempowerment of the state. And that is exactly what Bitcoin is.

982
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:25,020
Don't get me wrong. I want it to be. I'm just telling you my lived experience is I can't get

983
00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:32,000
people to make the leap from inflation is bad, government is bad, Bitcoin is a solution.

984
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:37,760
Some people do. But you've been with me for seven, eight years on a journey. You know it's hard.

985
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:40,800
Some people just have that moment and they don't. Usually it's their moment. They're like,

986
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:43,580
I've heard about Bitcoin. You get rich price and I buy some. I got rich score. I'm in.

987
00:50:44,060 --> 00:50:47,780
A lot of people, also a lot of people just don't have spare capital for Bitcoin.

988
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,440
Yeah, and that's true, and they've got nothing they can do with that.

989
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,280
But when you're trying to educate people on why they can withdraw consent from the government,

990
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,300
it just seems like a perfect moment to bring this in as an idea.

991
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,280
And it's not to say Bitcoin won't be part of it.

992
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:05,460
One of my posts recently, I wrote an article.

993
00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:06,200
What was the article?

994
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,920
I think I called MMT Marxist Monetary Theory,

995
00:51:10,340 --> 00:51:12,260
or why MMT is Marxist.

996
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:14,320
And my footnote was, buy Bitcoin.

997
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:16,700
So I do include it.

998
00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:21,600
I'm just not making it central, because if I make it central, I will lose people and I can't win.

999
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,140
I think you're deemed as a grifter.

1000
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:26,340
Yeah, because they know I've got Bitcoin as well.

1001
00:51:26,420 --> 00:51:32,580
Plus, the other thing is, one of the other things I've been trying to do is trying to say,

1002
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:34,220
this isn't even a left or right issue.

1003
00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:40,500
If you look at the complaints from the Marxists versus the complaints from the, say, free market capitalists,

1004
00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:42,940
they're both, it's horseshoe, they're both saying the same thing.

1005
00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:45,160
the rich are getting richer

1006
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,600
because of the institutions

1007
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,060
and the way the system works.

1008
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:52,540
They both diagnose the problem.

1009
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:53,600
Yeah, the problem is

1010
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,700
the richer are getting richer

1011
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:55,500
and the poorer are getting poorer.

1012
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,040
We all know this is unfair.

1013
00:51:58,060 --> 00:52:01,500
We know that asset inflation is unfair.

1014
00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:03,360
It's great for people with assets,

1015
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:04,360
but it's unfair

1016
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,820
because it only happens

1017
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:07,640
because of fractional reserve banking

1018
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,960
and money creation and fiscal policy.

1019
00:52:11,140 --> 00:52:12,900
Those three things drive inflation.

1020
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,960
If you're poor and you're not near the spigot, you're fucked.

1021
00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:17,360
So we know it's unfair.

1022
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,760
But they're choices.

1023
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,720
They're choices that exist.

1024
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,840
And so if the Marxists are saying it's a problem,

1025
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,720
they're absolutely right.

1026
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,400
It's totally unfair.

1027
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,020
But they're saying the solution is tax the rich.

1028
00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:30,300
It's not.

1029
00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:34,660
The free market guys are saying this is a problem.

1030
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,360
But their solution is right.

1031
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,460
Their solution is deregulate, government smaller,

1032
00:52:42,940 --> 00:53:12,080
The libertarians are right. The libertarians are 100% right. But they're both diagnosing the same problem. So I'm going, this isn't a left or right issue. You're both saying what the problem is. I don't even need to say whether we should have a Marxist solution or a free market solution. My opinion is free market. But we both agree that the problem is this. Well, then we both can agree that constraints on power is the solution. It's not to allow people to wield power for the benefit of an elite against everyone else.

1033
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:18,040
and that is a collective thing that I believe the left and the right can get behind.

1034
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,320
It's like, do you want...

1035
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,100
But do you think the left are going to get behind the I do not consent movement?

1036
00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:26,040
I think some will.

1037
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,340
Not the far left wonky weirdos, because they're Marxists.

1038
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:30,400
They want government to have more power.

1039
00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:32,800
I'm talking about the old school traditional left.

1040
00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:34,920
So the classic liberals.

1041
00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:39,860
Classic liberals, old working class, Labour, SDP.

1042
00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:44,940
the Labour voters who have gone to reform.

1043
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:48,100
The Labour voters, like...

1044
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:48,760
Has that happened?

1045
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,500
Are people moving from Labour to reform?

1046
00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:51,220
Yes.

1047
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:51,860
That's wild.

1048
00:53:52,020 --> 00:53:54,120
Well, think about it like this.

1049
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:02,720
If you're, like, what radicalises most people is being broke.

1050
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:03,040
Yeah.

1051
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,580
And if you're broke because of decisions that weren't yours,

1052
00:54:06,580 --> 00:54:11,760
you know if you've gone to if you've got up every day at six o'clock and gone to work built walls

1053
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,380
plumbed houses built buildings you know whatever job it is you've gone out and then you're doing

1054
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:23,460
things and suddenly you're like you know i have no fucking money left like there's a week to go

1055
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:27,260
and i've got no money left i've got no savings i can't go on holiday all the things my dad could

1056
00:54:27,260 --> 00:54:33,180
afford to do on a working class wage you can't do it's like well why is this happening and then

1057
00:54:33,180 --> 00:54:38,080
you've got another party, you know, and this has happened at a time where you've had mass immigration.

1058
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,840
And we should talk about immigration. And we should talk about British identity because the

1059
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:48,020
Overton window has shifted on that. But if you've seen that, and then you're seeing every single day

1060
00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:54,860
that people are coming to the country illegally and they're being put up in hotels. If you are

1061
00:54:54,860 --> 00:55:01,680
seeing the shape of your town center change, the culture of your town change, and you've got a

1062
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:07,340
a political leader saying, look, we need to get a grip on this immigration. This is causing problems.

1063
00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:11,980
And also we need to get a grip on welfare because that's what's taking money. Why would you not vote

1064
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:18,000
for that? I mean, it's interesting. We should talk about immigration because this has been a really

1065
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:25,120
hot topic. I've been in Siren Sester. I'm in a bubble. Like there is not that much diversity

1066
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,560
there. How, tell me what the like state of the country is. Like what's the temperature of the

1067
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,400
country on immigration right now? I mean, the temperature of the country itself, I think,

1068
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,220
the valve is like starting to pop. Well, last time we spoke, you thought we were going to go

1069
00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:42,260
into a civil war. Well, I think we were already in a civil war. It's like a cold civil war now,

1070
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:49,720
but we're in a civil war at the moment because a number of debates which you couldn't even have

1071
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:56,500
five years ago and now front and center. Okay, so immigration. Immigration isn't even controversial

1072
00:55:56,500 --> 00:56:00,100
now. To say we want zero immigration, that is not even a controversial position.

1073
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,980
The more controversial conversations that are going mainstream are...

1074
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:06,980
It's what you do about the immigrants that are here.

1075
00:56:06,980 --> 00:56:11,380
Yes. So this is where you get into the new ones. Okay, immigration is a problem,

1076
00:56:11,380 --> 00:56:14,260
go to zero, great. Okay. I think a lot of people can get behind that.

1077
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:21,140
It's the discussions of re-immigration, you know, essentially expelling people from the country.

1078
00:56:21,140 --> 00:56:26,000
and where people are comfortable on that spectrum.

1079
00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:28,440
Because we did the interview with Carl Benjamin.

1080
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,860
I said, look, these are going to be uncomfortable conversations for people.

1081
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,640
You go on the YouTube comments, you're a pussy,

1082
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,940
you're the reason the country's going to shit.

1083
00:56:33,940 --> 00:56:36,120
I'm just trying to say, realistically,

1084
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,840
if you think immigration is a problem,

1085
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,840
there's questions you need to answer.

1086
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,960
What policies do you want to enact the change that you would like to see?

1087
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:48,520
How do you accumulate enough power to make that happen?

1088
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,100
How do you execute it?

1089
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:54,860
And how do you bind it so it's not undone when a different party comes in power maybe five or ten years later?

1090
00:56:55,180 --> 00:56:56,440
They're really important questions to have.

1091
00:56:57,180 --> 00:57:01,120
And so if you go to the very extreme right of this,

1092
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:05,120
there are people here in this country who basically just want it to be a white country.

1093
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:09,960
And no argument, you know, this needs to be a white country, it's for white people, that's what Englishness is.

1094
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,320
And they'll debate things like...

1095
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,700
I disagree that that's what Englishness is.

1096
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,180
Like I think it's what Englishness was.

1097
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:26,920
So they'll say things like, yeah, like Rishi Sunak is in English and David Lammy is in English because Rishi's like of Indian descent and David Lammy's black, right?

1098
00:57:26,980 --> 00:57:36,420
But I was talking about my experience. I went into Bedford Town Centre yesterday. I went to the coffee shop and I was sat there and outside the bank, there's a mentally disabled guy comes into our coffee shop.

1099
00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:45,360
He was outside the bank and there was a black lady that he was whacking with a crutch and then started grabbing by the hair.

1100
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,420
No one did anything.

1101
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:49,040
So I ran out, put my cape on, got him off her.

1102
00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:52,380
And the lady from the bank said, oh, that's his carer.

1103
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:53,680
She said, I'm not his carer.

1104
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,240
I don't know him.

1105
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,480
And she sculled off.

1106
00:57:56,540 --> 00:57:58,720
He then, I gave him to calm down.

1107
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,960
But before he calms down, he's grabbing at my neck and grabbing at me.

1108
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,000
He's quite strong for a little guy.

1109
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,220
Calm him down, and he goes off.

1110
00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:09,160
But as he gets about 50 metres up the road,

1111
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,760
he starts whacking a window with his crush.

1112
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:11,380
I'm like, fuck.

1113
00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:12,640
So I run up to get him.

1114
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:14,520
There's two other guys who come into my coffee shop.

1115
00:58:14,540 --> 00:58:15,340
I think they're Indian guys.

1116
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,040
One's a boxer and his brother.

1117
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:18,220
I was like, come and help me.

1118
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,400
So they run up and they help me.

1119
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:21,340
We sort them out.

1120
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,060
We calm them down.

1121
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,460
Eventually, the antisocial behaviour officers in the town come.

1122
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,980
I think both of those were Muslim.

1123
00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:28,700
We get them sorted.

1124
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:30,080
Then the police come up and take them away.

1125
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,740
after that I go and get my hair cut by a gay Indian.

1126
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:36,500
I think he's Indian.

1127
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:37,840
Is he Indian?

1128
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,860
He's a whole max.

1129
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,300
Yeah.

1130
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,340
But I'm pretty sure his parents, his grandparents, are Sikh or Hindu.

1131
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,080
And then I go back to the coffee shop.

1132
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,960
And I look back at that at the moment.

1133
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,240
I was like, there's two Indian guys who helped me.

1134
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,720
And they're very assimilated.

1135
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,420
Come to the coffee shop.

1136
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,380
We have different color skin.

1137
00:58:58,380 --> 00:59:00,540
but with very similar people.

1138
00:59:02,060 --> 00:59:05,020
The antisocial behavior guys, they come and help.

1139
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,140
And then the gay Sikh of heritage.

1140
00:59:09,620 --> 00:59:10,500
I'll have to check with Shane.

1141
00:59:10,580 --> 00:59:11,440
Sorry, Shane, I've got this wrong.

1142
00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:14,440
But I'm like, well, this is an English experience.

1143
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,480
You know, when I watch videos outside Arsenal

1144
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,040
and you've got black and white guys arguing about Arsenal

1145
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,160
and they've been shitting, that's just English to me.

1146
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,120
And so I refuse to get into this discussion

1147
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,340
about Englishness being a white thing.

1148
00:59:27,340 --> 00:59:31,000
I just refuse to have it because I think it may be what it was.

1149
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,540
It may be what you want it to be.

1150
00:59:34,540 --> 00:59:37,960
But to me, that is verging on kind of racism.

1151
00:59:38,780 --> 00:59:41,820
And I can't see Connor as a third-generation immigrant

1152
00:59:41,820 --> 00:59:43,880
different from like a lad he went to school with

1153
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,700
who's third-generation, I don't know, Jamaican descent.

1154
00:59:47,740 --> 00:59:49,640
They think the same. They operate the same.

1155
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:51,460
They might have some different cultural things,

1156
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,420
but they're pretty much the same.

1157
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,680
I refuse to do that.

1158
00:59:54,380 --> 00:59:56,360
But if you want to have a conversation about,

1159
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:01,820
when I go into my town centre, and as I walk through,

1160
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,580
you've got Albanian guys, Eastern European guys, Polish guys,

1161
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:12,820
Muslims and Sikhs, and you go into quite a diluted experience.

1162
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,120
And that creates cul-de-sacs of groups of people.

1163
01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:19,640
I'm willing to have the conversation and say,

1164
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,320
well, this experience is...

1165
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,780
When you have too many cultures, you have no culture.

1166
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,360
I'm open to having that conversation, what it means.

1167
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,960
And I'm open to saying, okay, well, what can you do about it?

1168
01:00:33,660 --> 01:00:38,620
Because Bedford itself has a strong, diverse cultural experience in that.

1169
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,960
And even any of those pure ethnats,

1170
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,940
they've definitely gone down Tavisock Street

1171
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:46,020
and eaten those Indian restaurants because they're fucking great.

1172
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,020
Chat House is one of the best restaurants I've ever eaten in.

1173
01:00:49,460 --> 01:00:52,940
And so, and people will mock and make memes and things like,

1174
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,280
they did it with Piers Morgan, but I've had a nice curry meme.

1175
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,780
But the truth is, it's like, OK, let's not have a discussion

1176
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,660
about what it means to be English, because I think it's a dumb discussion.

1177
01:01:03,740 --> 01:01:05,900
Let's say, what is the outcome you want,

1178
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,040
and how are you going to get there?

1179
01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:13,900
I think there is a strong argument that too much immigration is damaging for the country.

1180
01:01:13,980 --> 01:01:29,100
I have no doubt about that Because if you have no restrictions on really who comes in most people are coming what for a better life So they probably coming from a poor start

1181
01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:35,840
So they're possibly, probably coming in the country in a financial position, even if they

1182
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,340
want to work, that they're going to bring GDP per capita down, they might be a net taker.

1183
01:01:40,340 --> 01:01:48,140
So what we're saying is every hard-working person gets up and goes to work, they have to pay more tax for other people to come into the country.

1184
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:58,520
If you dilute the education of the country, you're basically saying to parents, look, to have high levels of immigration, your kids are going to get a worse education.

1185
01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:00,700
They're going to have worse outcomes in healthcare.

1186
01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:04,180
I just think democratically we deserve a right to vote for this.

1187
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,600
And if we deserve a right to vote for this, then we have to debate it.

1188
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,680
And it's on the table.

1189
01:02:09,460 --> 01:02:13,020
And so I think this will define the next election.

1190
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,580
I think, as it was in America, the main debate will be around immigration.

1191
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:19,400
What do you want to come out of that?

1192
01:02:19,460 --> 01:02:21,360
What do you think the right policy is on immigration?

1193
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,580
I want constraints on power.

1194
01:02:23,180 --> 01:02:24,940
This is all I care about.

1195
01:02:25,060 --> 01:02:26,160
I want constraints on power.

1196
01:02:26,860 --> 01:02:30,000
And so how does that affect immigration?

1197
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:39,900
well you don't have uh um unelected unaccountable uh government offices or quangos making these

1198
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:45,320
decisions if a party wins look if the greens win the election they want uncontrolled immigration

1199
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,780
that's what the country said i don't want it i might leave but i don't think they will get it

1200
01:02:49,780 --> 01:02:58,600
but say if reform come in then the decisions regarding immigration policy cannot be defected

1201
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,860
or cannot be directed by an unelected government quango.

1202
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,400
It can't be like a department within the government.

1203
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,100
It has to be done and controlled by the party itself.

1204
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,580
They have to have authority over that and be accountable for it.

1205
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,700
And if the country says we do not want immigration,

1206
01:03:18,340 --> 01:03:19,440
then they have to go solve that.

1207
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,780
And constraints from power will do that

1208
01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:25,040
because it directs the constraints to the government themselves.

1209
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,260
ultimately

1210
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:29,860
I think we should go

1211
01:03:29,860 --> 01:03:31,160
not to zero immigration

1212
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,080
immigration should be a function of a growing country

1213
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,080
I don't care where

1214
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,980
somebody's come from, I don't care what their background is

1215
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:39,900
if they have a skill

1216
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:41,620
that we don't have here that we need it

1217
01:03:41,620 --> 01:03:43,720
that makes us more productive and grows the country

1218
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:44,220
great

1219
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:46,580
and I'm open to

1220
01:03:46,580 --> 01:03:50,340
genuine asylum claims because they do exist

1221
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:51,660
but I'm

1222
01:03:51,660 --> 01:03:53,060
I'm very

1223
01:03:53,060 --> 01:03:55,600
have you followed this case of this, I can't say his name,

1224
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,680
Allah, that's came up recently, A-L-A-A.

1225
01:03:57,820 --> 01:03:59,020
This is wild, right?

1226
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,900
Get up the, first we all became aware of this, really,

1227
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,280
was this Keir Starmer tweet, where he put,

1228
01:04:09,620 --> 01:04:12,460
this whole story is just wild, but I think,

1229
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,380
if you go onto Keir Starmer's profile,

1230
01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:21,340
this is, to me, a lens for the country.

1231
01:04:21,340 --> 01:04:25,680
I'm delighted that Allah Abdel Fattah is back in the UK

1232
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,180
and has been reunited with his loved ones.

1233
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,700
You must be feeling profound relief.

1234
01:04:29,780 --> 01:04:32,040
I want to pay tribute to Allah's family

1235
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,660
and to those who have worked and campaigned for this movement.

1236
01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:36,780
Allah's case has been a top priority for my government

1237
01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:37,720
since we came to office.

1238
01:04:38,060 --> 01:04:41,340
I'm grateful to President Sisi for his decision to grant the pardon.

1239
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:47,040
So he's been in prison in Egypt for, I don't know, 10, 15 years

1240
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,820
for protesting against the government.

1241
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:53,280
I don't know the full exact details, so I won't explain them.

1242
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,980
But what happened is people just started searching his Twitter.

1243
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:57,740
All right, what's this?

1244
01:04:57,820 --> 01:05:00,040
Dear international PhD students, by the way, I'm a racist.

1245
01:05:00,140 --> 01:05:01,520
I don't like white people, so piss off.

1246
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:03,560
This is from the guy that's...

1247
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:03,740
Yeah.

1248
01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:04,640
Fuck that.

1249
01:05:04,740 --> 01:05:05,860
Sounds like you need more fear.

1250
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,900
Random shooting of white males should convince them racism costs lives.

1251
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,600
I'll switch to something else.

1252
01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:13,440
Advocating killing police, hate white people, assassination plot,

1253
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,540
against Salel, Diyah, Ibrahim.

1254
01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:17,760
But there's so many of these.

1255
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:18,520
They've all come out.

1256
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,820
and people are saying, why are you welcoming him back?

1257
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,660
Now, there was a change to the law in the UK,

1258
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,040
which, yeah, look at this, don't worry,

1259
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,540
we were only discussing how we'll take over your town

1260
01:05:29,540 --> 01:05:32,240
and rape your women, us terrorists tend to do that.

1261
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,120
I mean, that sounds like he's joking.

1262
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,620
Yeah, but there's a lot of these

1263
01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:40,100
and he talks a lot about hating white people, okay?

1264
01:05:41,740 --> 01:05:43,000
That's his choice, fine.

1265
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,000
The reason he is able, when he was pardoned

1266
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:52,360
pardoned or whatever in Egypt to come here, he has a citizenship right because his mother

1267
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:57,480
is British. He's never lived here. Actually, he's never been to the country before. He's never worked

1268
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:03,160
here. He's never paid tax. Him coming back, he's instantly a burden on the state. Because of

1269
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:09,080
his tweets, he now has to be investigated by the security services. He might have to be monitored.

1270
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:14,440
So he's instantly a burden on the state. So I think there is a fair discussion to have around

1271
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,480
dual citizenship. Like, he's lived in Egypt his whole life. Yes, he's been pardoned.

1272
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:28,120
Well, I know his mother is British, but should we automatically grant citizenship rights based on

1273
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:35,400
that? Because I understand why these exist. Like, if both your parents are British,

1274
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:43,720
this is really unfortunate for us. But he has dual citizenship. Like, he has an Egyptian passport,

1275
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:50,440
he can have a British one. But for him to get his British passport is an administrative process.

1276
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,400
There is no moral judgment on him. There's no judgment on his previous tweets or whatever.

1277
01:06:55,580 --> 01:07:01,920
But why shouldn't there be? You know, if he's been out there calling for the murder of white

1278
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:07,840
people and Jews, if he is a citizen of Egypt, can we not say, no, we don't want this person

1279
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:13,320
in our country? Whether he's a citizen or not, I agree with that. Yeah. But that to me,

1280
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,240
this is almost like an inflection point.

1281
01:07:15,260 --> 01:07:16,000
I think I tweeted this,

1282
01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:17,240
an inflection point for the country

1283
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,040
because it touches so many of the issues

1284
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,160
of what it means to be British,

1285
01:07:20,740 --> 01:07:23,300
immigration, culture, identity.

1286
01:07:24,140 --> 01:07:26,400
And I mean, there has been uproar over this.

1287
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,000
But what it means to be British,

1288
01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:29,600
I think that's the most interesting part

1289
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,180
of this conversation

1290
01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:31,380
because there's been all the people

1291
01:07:31,380 --> 01:07:33,060
trying to fly Union Jacks

1292
01:07:33,060 --> 01:07:34,280
and English flags outside the houses,

1293
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,300
getting loads of shit.

1294
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,760
I've seen loads of them in the Cotswolds.

1295
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,060
And I hate the idea that

1296
01:07:40,060 --> 01:07:40,940
for some reason,

1297
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:43,180
waving your country's flag is a racist

1298
01:07:43,180 --> 01:07:45,780
thing, which is genuinely what I think people on the left think.

1299
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,500
Well, I mean, look, again, people seem to be afraid of nuance.

1300
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,680
It isn't racist to raise your flag, and there will be some racists who've raised their flag.

1301
01:07:55,820 --> 01:07:58,040
Yeah, but raising the flag is not a racist flag.

1302
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,380
No, it's not a racist flag.

1303
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,320
And like, that's been a huge controversy, which I think is very strange.

1304
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:03,960
But I do think...

1305
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,640
But you know why?

1306
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:09,100
Well, I mean, I guess that it's signaling something, but I don't know why.

1307
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:09,900
I don't understand why...

1308
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:10,760
It's because everything's political.

1309
01:08:11,460 --> 01:08:12,140
Yeah, but...

1310
01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:17,340
So those raising the flags are more likely to be reform voters,

1311
01:08:17,580 --> 01:08:20,120
more likely to be working class,

1312
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,600
more likely to be people who agree with Tommy Robinson.

1313
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,040
They're less likely to be libtards.

1314
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:29,040
You're not getting a...

1315
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,300
But people aren't going and ripping out Green Party banners

1316
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:34,880
out of people's gardens.

1317
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:35,920
Of course, they aren't.

1318
01:08:36,020 --> 01:08:37,220
But that's a different thing,

1319
01:08:37,260 --> 01:08:41,340
because that's a political identity.

1320
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:48,080
one is a national identity. But the point is, is you don't have Green Party voters going around

1321
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:54,460
putting up flags. It's like my security. Private security in Bedford was non-political by me,

1322
01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:02,240
was judged politically by the public. So the raising the flags was not a political idea

1323
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:09,380
directly. It was like a national identity, defense of national identity. But it became political,

1324
01:09:09,940 --> 01:09:10,580
like everything,

1325
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,000
pick what you want,

1326
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,600
abortion, education, borders, immigration,

1327
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,980
there is always a political split.

1328
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:19,200
Always.

1329
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,920
Name me anything the country has consensus on at the moment.

1330
01:09:23,060 --> 01:09:24,900
It has large consensus on immigration,

1331
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,160
but not full consensus.

1332
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,480
Is there anything we have consensus on?

1333
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,800
But I think you could probably say that about most countries.

1334
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,460
Like everything has become left or right.

1335
01:09:32,660 --> 01:09:34,340
But the problem is...

1336
01:09:34,340 --> 01:09:34,900
That's key.

1337
01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:36,280
Can I say why that's key?

1338
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,480
Everything is left and right.

1339
01:09:38,980 --> 01:09:44,580
So if everything is left and right, and there are no constraints on government, what will they do?

1340
01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:51,880
They will direct rights, bureaucracy, financial resources to the special interests of their voting bloc.

1341
01:09:52,600 --> 01:10:01,160
So we will swing left to right, more extreme, more existential, the less constraints that government have.

1342
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,380
The more we constrain government, the less they can do that.

1343
01:10:05,180 --> 01:10:06,300
But how do you constrain government?

1344
01:10:07,260 --> 01:10:09,020
Codified constitution, Bill of Rights.

1345
01:10:09,660 --> 01:10:11,040
You just limit what they can do.

1346
01:10:12,220 --> 01:10:14,420
What is the actual role?

1347
01:10:15,460 --> 01:10:18,020
I think I put out a tweet the other day where I said,

1348
01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:24,460
if tomorrow government collapsed and all you had was border security

1349
01:10:24,460 --> 01:10:26,220
with a job of protecting the border,

1350
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,800
the police are protecting safety and the courts protecting contracts,

1351
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,280
would we live in a better or worse country?

1352
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:33,900
Clearly better.

1353
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:40,540
Better, because you would have more money to direct to those powers that protect the rights,

1354
01:10:41,140 --> 01:10:45,420
the laws, and the sovereignty of the individual, and less bureaucracy and waste.

1355
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,040
And look, we get into an argument, well, what about poor people? Well, the incentives change.

1356
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,140
If there's no welfare state, you've got a choice. You get up and go to work,

1357
01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:58,100
or you don't. But if you don't, you don't eat. Or people have more money in their pockets because

1358
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:02,480
they're not paying endless taxes for bureaucracy and bullshit, so they can be a bit more generous.

1359
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,400
They can help their fellow man.

1360
01:11:04,780 --> 01:11:07,220
You're not going to have inflation because you don't have a Bank of England.

1361
01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:10,440
You probably need one, but essentially speaking,

1362
01:11:10,540 --> 01:11:11,680
you're going to have a lot less inflation.

1363
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,540
So that means you're not going to be scaring kids away

1364
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:16,720
from being able to afford a home,

1365
01:11:16,820 --> 01:11:18,260
but you're going to have more money to invest.

1366
01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:19,460
You're going to create more jobs.

1367
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,480
Naturally, it would be a better place.

1368
01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:24,400
Well, that's the ultimate constraint on power

1369
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,320
if all government can do is those three things.

1370
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:27,860
But I want to do that.

1371
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,320
I'm not finished on the national identity thing

1372
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,100
because my issue with it is,

1373
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:33,860
I think it's great that people are raising the Union Jack and the English flag.

1374
01:11:34,020 --> 01:11:34,460
Like, cool.

1375
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,380
But I think if you asked any of those people doing that,

1376
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,220
what is British identity?

1377
01:11:39,460 --> 01:11:42,000
I don't know if there's something everyone agrees with.

1378
01:11:42,220 --> 01:11:43,960
If you look back at classic English identity,

1379
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,520
it was like gentry and serfs and Christianity.

1380
01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:48,300
More than that, though.

1381
01:11:48,340 --> 01:11:51,280
It was kind of like exploring adventurism.

1382
01:11:51,420 --> 01:11:53,000
And literature and all these things.

1383
01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:53,880
Inventing things.

1384
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,620
But that isn't Britain today.

1385
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:56,960
No, because...

1386
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,940
I think people need to find what the British identity is

1387
01:12:00,940 --> 01:12:02,340
to have something to actually go after.

1388
01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:05,680
Sure. Or decide what we want it to be.

1389
01:12:05,820 --> 01:12:10,120
Dominic Cummings wrote a great two-part article called Hollow Men.

1390
01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:14,220
Like, absolutely eviscerated what government has become,

1391
01:12:14,340 --> 01:12:16,120
and like, so impotent.

1392
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:20,220
And he said, we should target a large amount of this education.

1393
01:12:20,740 --> 01:12:25,460
We should become the best place to learn and teach

1394
01:12:25,460 --> 01:12:28,220
and develop people in the world.

1395
01:12:28,380 --> 01:12:29,540
Let's focus on education.

1396
01:12:29,540 --> 01:12:32,660
you should want to be educated in this country

1397
01:12:32,660 --> 01:12:34,120
because we have deep,

1398
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,000
you know, we deeply think about engineering

1399
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,880
and technology and philosophy.

1400
01:12:39,220 --> 01:12:40,260
And I think that's great.

1401
01:12:40,380 --> 01:12:41,000
I think that's great.

1402
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,620
And like, obviously there's Cambridge and Oxford,

1403
01:12:42,740 --> 01:12:43,460
really good schools.

1404
01:12:43,700 --> 01:12:46,180
But like, when you think of things

1405
01:12:46,180 --> 01:12:47,840
that the UK excels at,

1406
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:48,920
there's not many.

1407
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,200
And I think British people-

1408
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:50,820
Premier League football.

1409
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,900
Well, football, yeah.

1410
01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:54,400
But there's, I think British people

1411
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,340
have this like hangover from being,

1412
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,620
you know, the colonial empire.

1413
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:00,140
of thinking we're really important,

1414
01:13:00,660 --> 01:13:02,420
whereas the rest of the world looks at us like...

1415
01:13:02,420 --> 01:13:03,280
They're laughing at us.

1416
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:03,640
Completely.

1417
01:13:03,780 --> 01:13:05,680
We're being humiliated on the world stage.

1418
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:08,380
And so I think the need to find something

1419
01:13:08,380 --> 01:13:09,800
that Britain's great at again.

1420
01:13:09,980 --> 01:13:11,020
It needs to be...

1421
01:13:11,020 --> 01:13:13,580
Maybe it is philosophy, maybe it's education, whatever,

1422
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,340
but there needs to be something that the UK actually excels at

1423
01:13:16,340 --> 01:13:17,520
because we don't have one at the moment.

1424
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,580
London was the financial capital of the world for a very long time.

1425
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:20,800
Yeah.

1426
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,100
And now it's just fading away into nothingness.

1427
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:26,140
I mean, in the short term,

1428
01:13:26,140 --> 01:13:30,120
what we can do is show strong leadership

1429
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,880
that doesn't descend into authoritarianism.

1430
01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:38,800
I mean, the problems we have aren't as similar to the US,

1431
01:13:38,940 --> 01:13:40,660
but it's a different dynamic.

1432
01:13:41,740 --> 01:13:43,220
They're much more similar in Europe.

1433
01:13:43,340 --> 01:13:45,800
Like, what huge companies have been built in Europe?

1434
01:13:46,620 --> 01:13:47,220
OnlyFans.

1435
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:47,980
Spotify?

1436
01:13:48,620 --> 01:13:48,840
Yeah.

1437
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:50,340
Look at the US.

1438
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,680
Look what they've built.

1439
01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:56,040
Look at every large AI company.

1440
01:13:56,140 --> 01:13:59,780
look at every large social media company

1441
01:13:59,780 --> 01:14:01,800
look at all the plumbing

1442
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:02,400
to the

1443
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,060
look at Uber

1444
01:14:05,060 --> 01:14:06,720
look at SpaceX

1445
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:07,640
look at Tesla

1446
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,080
it's all built out in America right

1447
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,540
we haven't done that

1448
01:14:10,540 --> 01:14:11,640
we haven't done it in Europe

1449
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:11,980
why?

1450
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:13,760
because we're bureaucratic hellholes

1451
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,940
well and the culture of success

1452
01:14:15,940 --> 01:14:18,060
I'll just demonise it

1453
01:14:18,060 --> 01:14:19,300
we used to have it though

1454
01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:21,240
but the bureaucracy gets in the way

1455
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,760
if we had 0% corporation tax

1456
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,460
people would invest in this country.

1457
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:27,480
I'm not saying we should have that.

1458
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,640
When Ireland reduced their corporation tax,

1459
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:30,340
what happened to all this?

1460
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:31,200
Apple moved there.

1461
01:14:31,260 --> 01:14:31,960
Everyone moved there.

1462
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,260
And so we can create, these are all choices.

1463
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:36,600
We can create this.

1464
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,980
But I think what we can do is show strong leadership

1465
01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:45,860
in a world of crumbling bureaucracy,

1466
01:14:46,260 --> 01:14:50,380
which is destroying Europe.

1467
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,980
We can show strong leadership.

1468
01:14:51,980 --> 01:14:55,040
we can show a strong and fair immigration policy.

1469
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:58,700
We can have a strong identity around leadership,

1470
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,120
education, excellence.

1471
01:15:01,340 --> 01:15:02,400
I think we can do that.

1472
01:15:02,980 --> 01:15:04,080
I really think we can.

1473
01:15:04,460 --> 01:15:05,540
But it's not going to happen

1474
01:15:05,540 --> 01:15:09,180
when government has levers of power,

1475
01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:11,740
which means they have to look after special interest groups.

1476
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,440
It never is.

1477
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,360
But you must be so much more optimistic than me

1478
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,320
because I don't see that future.

1479
01:15:16,540 --> 01:15:17,820
It's not optimism, it's just realism.

1480
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,300
No, no, what I'm saying is you're here

1481
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:21,600
trying to fight to get that.

1482
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,040
No, I'm just saying I think that's the answer.

1483
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,600
Like, there's two ways.

1484
01:15:24,620 --> 01:15:26,460
But you are trying, like with your movement,

1485
01:15:26,580 --> 01:15:28,120
you are trying to get to that goal.

1486
01:15:28,340 --> 01:15:29,660
I don't know why you've not just left.

1487
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,380
Because I love this country.

1488
01:15:33,580 --> 01:15:34,280
I fight for it.

1489
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:35,260
Do my bit.

1490
01:15:35,380 --> 01:15:37,220
Look, I may be completely wrong.

1491
01:15:37,460 --> 01:15:38,560
I may be embarrassed myself.

1492
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,820
I did that when I bought a football club

1493
01:15:39,820 --> 01:15:41,140
and I said I was going to get them in the Premier League.

1494
01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:41,860
They're 40 fans.

1495
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:42,540
I'm still trying.

1496
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,180
I started a podcast.

1497
01:15:44,180 --> 01:15:47,420
You put yourself in the arena and you get embarrassed.

1498
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:49,940
Maybe I'm embarrassing myself, Danny, right now.

1499
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:51,220
That's every possibility.

1500
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,360
By the way, have you seen this little mark here?

1501
01:15:53,420 --> 01:15:54,000
It looks like a penis.

1502
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:56,180
I can't stop looking at it.

1503
01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:58,360
You ever seen this when you were sat here?

1504
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:00,960
Maybe I'm wrong.

1505
01:16:01,380 --> 01:16:02,920
But the options on the table are,

1506
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,280
is a left-wing coalition wins,

1507
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,860
we go more socialist, more Marxist,

1508
01:16:08,220 --> 01:16:10,180
and the country collapses, and I will leave.

1509
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:10,780
I will not stay.

1510
01:16:11,540 --> 01:16:13,220
This country becomes a...

1511
01:16:13,220 --> 01:16:15,100
I'll argue we're already socialist, by the way.

1512
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,220
I think you did realise, on the town level...

1513
01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:21,500
Yeah.

1514
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:22,320
Definitely realised.

1515
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,040
Yeah, I did.

1516
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,860
And you packed it in.

1517
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,160
Yeah, I gave up.

1518
01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:27,100
I think eventually he will stop.

1519
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:28,880
It's just a matter of...

1520
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,400
There are scenarios where I stop.

1521
01:16:30,540 --> 01:16:33,660
So I stopped in the town because I realised the council's broke.

1522
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,240
There's no money to do anything.

1523
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:36,980
Central government sucks everything out.

1524
01:16:38,380 --> 01:16:41,540
So I gave up because the only answer is through central government.

1525
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:47,240
And what role can you play in that, owning a smallish media property?

1526
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:51,000
So I gave up at the town level.

1527
01:16:51,220 --> 01:16:54,180
to work at a national level, realizing everything's downstream.

1528
01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:59,000
If it's another left-wing government, I leave the country.

1529
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:01,180
There's no choice. There's no option. There's no option for my children.

1530
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,080
We're heading to... We will become South Africa.

1531
01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:07,660
We will become pre-Malay Argentina.

1532
01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:09,740
There'll be no opportunity.

1533
01:17:10,580 --> 01:17:13,800
We will go into periods of hyperinflation.

1534
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,980
It's obvious.

1535
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:20,500
We might get something more right-wing that can steady the ship,

1536
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,780
improve certain things on certain measures,

1537
01:17:23,580 --> 01:17:25,740
maybe stick around for that.

1538
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,600
The real risk there is that they get in,

1539
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,220
reform get in, and nothing really changes.

1540
01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:31,880
Populist dilemma, and Nima Parvini's book talks about that.

1541
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,260
Because they can't, they physically can't.

1542
01:17:35,140 --> 01:17:36,680
Not that they physically can't,

1543
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,040
they haven't got the stomach to deliver it,

1544
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,220
or if they try and deliver it,

1545
01:17:40,300 --> 01:17:42,960
the country hasn't got the stomach for it.

1546
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,900
Because it might mean immigration policies

1547
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:46,760
that people don't like,

1548
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,760
or it might mean budget constraints that people don't like.

1549
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:53,700
it's a bit like, I don't know, if you get loads of debt,

1550
01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:57,600
and you want to pay off your debt and get your life back,

1551
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,540
you have to go back to work, maybe have a second job,

1552
01:17:59,860 --> 01:18:01,080
maybe go back and live with your parents.

1553
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,200
You have to downgrade your life to rebuild.

1554
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,700
I think the UK has to downgrade its life to rebuild.

1555
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,860
It has to reset a lot of these debt issues.

1556
01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:10,140
Country might not have the stomach for it.

1557
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,760
Yeah, reform could come in and go, right, look,

1558
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,780
our MPs, we're all going to take a 20% pay cut.

1559
01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:14,640
We're all in this together.

1560
01:18:15,020 --> 01:18:16,460
We're going to reduce taxation.

1561
01:18:16,460 --> 01:18:19,600
We're going to reduce borrowing, but we're going to reduce welfare.

1562
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,880
we're going to privatize half the NHS

1563
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,860
we're going to do all these things because they have to be done

1564
01:18:23,860 --> 01:18:26,100
to get us to a place where we're paying off our debt

1565
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,000
and that's painful

1566
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,660
the country might prefer this slow erosion of standards

1567
01:18:31,660 --> 01:18:33,200
rather than like a hard reset

1568
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,140
that's a reality

1569
01:18:34,140 --> 01:18:40,360
the reason I'm so keen on constraints of power

1570
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,760
is if you can implement the right set of constraints and power

1571
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,240
you bind it to future governments

1572
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:54,780
so you you fix the problem of incentives within government and you've you you ensure that we we

1573
01:18:54,780 --> 01:19:00,840
must run a budget that the country can afford and we must pay off our debt and we must rebuild and

1574
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:06,900
we must make the right decisions for our country regarding education health welfare so we don't

1575
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:11,840
continue to decay and if you bind that it doesn't matter who gets in power because they're bound by

1576
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:18,360
those constraints. And I could be entirely wrong. I may be entirely wrong, but I am, I,

1577
01:19:19,060 --> 01:19:25,320
this is what I believe. And so my entire focus is I no longer consent. I would like to build a

1578
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:31,860
movement in this country around that, a voting bloc. I am speaking to various people of influence,

1579
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:38,620
various lawyers, various MPs, and saying this is all I care about. And if we can have some influence

1580
01:19:38,620 --> 01:19:41,300
which forces government to make change,

1581
01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:43,000
which puts the country first,

1582
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,520
the rights of the individuals first,

1583
01:19:44,820 --> 01:19:47,940
that creates a real bill of rights,

1584
01:19:48,260 --> 01:19:50,660
which constrains the creation of money,

1585
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,340
which leads this country to a place

1586
01:19:53,340 --> 01:19:54,460
where it can rebuild itself,

1587
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,260
then that's worth it for me.

1588
01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:58,020
And if that fails, well, at least I tried

1589
01:19:58,020 --> 01:19:59,460
and I did what I think is right.

1590
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:00,880
Because you only have to look at history.

1591
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:03,860
You only have to look at what happened,

1592
01:20:03,940 --> 01:20:05,200
the tension between the Federalists

1593
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:05,980
and the Anti-Federalists,

1594
01:20:05,980 --> 01:20:09,000
which was between liberty and central government.

1595
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,360
You look at that tension and you look at the outcomes.

1596
01:20:11,860 --> 01:20:13,860
They told us what would happen and it's happened.

1597
01:20:14,660 --> 01:20:18,740
And it will continue to happen until we constrain government

1598
01:20:18,740 --> 01:20:21,500
to operate for the people.

1599
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:23,800
The government made up for the people by the people.

1600
01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:24,560
Is that what it is?

1601
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:31,600
And to me, that is rooted in liberty.

1602
01:20:32,940 --> 01:20:34,480
Like, this is how we get out of this.

1603
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:37,640
It is a, like, the libertarians are right.

1604
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,200
Directionally, they're 100% right.

1605
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,440
We have to root this in liberty

1606
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,400
because the people build this country,

1607
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:43,060
not the politicians.

1608
01:20:43,220 --> 01:20:44,080
They extract from it.

1609
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,300
They extract from it for special interests, for power.

1610
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,340
The people build this country,

1611
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:50,300
and the way they can rebuild this country

1612
01:20:50,300 --> 01:20:52,360
is through liberty, which is lower taxes,

1613
01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:54,700
no infringement on their rights,

1614
01:20:54,820 --> 01:20:57,280
the freedom, the freedom to just do shit.

1615
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,500
I mean, everything you say is clearly right.

1616
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:00,880
Like, I agree with everything you're saying.

1617
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,460
I don't know. I could be wrong, Danny.

1618
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:02,680
Well, I think you're right.

1619
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:03,060
I'm a moron.

1620
01:21:03,060 --> 01:21:04,240
Yeah, well, me too.

1621
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:05,200
But I think you're right.

1622
01:21:05,380 --> 01:21:06,820
The problem I have with it is, like,

1623
01:21:07,380 --> 01:21:09,980
can you actually change, like, the government behemoth

1624
01:21:09,980 --> 01:21:12,920
without something very catastrophic happening first?

1625
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:14,140
Who knows?

1626
01:21:14,540 --> 01:21:17,120
I mean, could...

1627
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,800
When the colonies wrote their Declaration of Independence,

1628
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,860
could they really get rid of the Brits?

1629
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,040
When Gandhi wanted to expel the British or restore...

1630
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,960
I don't know what his actual...

1631
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,700
But when the Indians wanted to expel the British,

1632
01:21:29,820 --> 01:21:30,560
could they really?

1633
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:31,880
No.

1634
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:38,240
When the solidarity movement in Czechoslovakia,

1635
01:21:38,340 --> 01:21:39,840
when they wanted to bring down the Czech government,

1636
01:21:39,940 --> 01:21:41,000
could they really do it?

1637
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:46,200
Could Malcolm X and Martin Luther King really...

1638
01:21:46,266 --> 01:21:49,166
Create a civil rights movement that would see blacks equal in America.

1639
01:21:49,726 --> 01:21:51,506
It only starts with someone going, can this be done?

1640
01:21:51,546 --> 01:21:52,286
And then trying.

1641
01:21:53,066 --> 01:21:58,826
This could, in a month or two, just not have worked,

1642
01:21:58,966 --> 01:22:02,406
dribble out, and I'm just some irrelevant half-wit podcaster

1643
01:22:02,406 --> 01:22:04,386
who tried something and nobody cared.

1644
01:22:04,946 --> 01:22:06,366
Or it could be something.

1645
01:22:08,186 --> 01:22:09,306
You've got to shoot your shot.

1646
01:22:09,566 --> 01:22:11,886
You've got to say, this is what I believe.

1647
01:22:11,886 --> 01:22:20,406
I firmly believe that prosperity comes from liberty okay well what is the constraints on

1648
01:22:20,406 --> 01:22:25,586
liberty it's government so we need to constrain government to allow for liberty and if we allow

1649
01:22:25,586 --> 01:22:31,926
for liberty we allow people to give them freedom to think to speak to act to create business you

1650
01:22:31,926 --> 01:22:36,606
know to trade with each other we may create a more prosperous environment if we create a more

1651
01:22:36,606 --> 01:22:43,806
prosperous environment, create a better country to live in. I can't, I'm so stuck in this, I can't

1652
01:22:43,806 --> 01:22:51,026
see any other solution. I see temporary fixes, and I see people argue against me, but when they argue

1653
01:22:51,026 --> 01:22:55,486
against me, they're just arguing for more government. And I just think they're wrong.

1654
01:22:55,766 --> 01:22:56,666
Well, I think they're wrong as well.

1655
01:22:56,846 --> 01:22:57,786
We haven't really talked about Bitcoin.

1656
01:22:57,966 --> 01:23:03,926
But I think it needs to be like, you need civil unrest, I think. I think just removing consent

1657
01:23:03,926 --> 01:23:05,746
is maybe not enough.

1658
01:23:05,906 --> 01:23:07,666
Maybe if it gets to a big enough scale

1659
01:23:07,666 --> 01:23:08,906
where you can make everyone strike,

1660
01:23:09,026 --> 01:23:09,506
things like that,

1661
01:23:09,546 --> 01:23:11,406
that might get you a seat at the table

1662
01:23:11,406 --> 01:23:12,846
to actually try and make some changes.

1663
01:23:12,986 --> 01:23:14,246
But without civil unrest,

1664
01:23:14,346 --> 01:23:15,126
they'll just ignore you.

1665
01:23:16,146 --> 01:23:16,506
Sure.

1666
01:23:16,646 --> 01:23:17,686
And that may happen anyway.

1667
01:23:17,806 --> 01:23:19,846
I'm trying to do something before civil unrest.

1668
01:23:20,006 --> 01:23:21,966
I can't advocate for civil unrest.

1669
01:23:22,166 --> 01:23:23,926
I've become a domestic terrorist.

1670
01:23:24,166 --> 01:23:25,886
I'm immediately on a watch list.

1671
01:23:26,106 --> 01:23:27,366
I'm immediately followed.

1672
01:23:27,506 --> 01:23:28,166
And I'm not talking,

1673
01:23:28,266 --> 01:23:29,406
I'm not trying to advocate for it.

1674
01:23:29,406 --> 01:23:29,766
I'm just saying,

1675
01:23:29,866 --> 01:23:30,766
I think to have change,

1676
01:23:30,826 --> 01:23:31,486
it probably needs to.

1677
01:23:31,486 --> 01:23:32,706
But people keep saying that.

1678
01:23:32,766 --> 01:23:33,406
People are just going,

1679
01:23:33,406 --> 01:23:35,726
oh, you're too late, you're too much of pussy,

1680
01:23:35,866 --> 01:23:37,586
oh yeah, you withdraw consent, what now?

1681
01:23:37,866 --> 01:23:39,206
You know, you need a violent uprising.

1682
01:23:39,326 --> 01:23:40,306
To every one of those, I was like,

1683
01:23:40,346 --> 01:23:41,426
well, where are you doing your violence?

1684
01:23:41,446 --> 01:23:43,326
I'm not seeing you doing it, okay?

1685
01:23:43,486 --> 01:23:45,246
It's very easy to get on a keyboard and tap,

1686
01:23:45,326 --> 01:23:48,446
you know, we need to break down the...

1687
01:23:48,446 --> 01:23:49,306
But it doesn't have to be violent.

1688
01:23:49,466 --> 01:23:50,826
Like, you can be striking or whatever.

1689
01:23:51,086 --> 01:23:53,726
Yeah, but that is, like, my starting point,

1690
01:23:53,826 --> 01:23:58,286
it has to be mass, non-compliance, non-violent, and legal.

1691
01:23:58,846 --> 01:24:00,766
The minute you cross that line,

1692
01:24:00,766 --> 01:24:04,366
You give the state the reason to close you down, arrest you.

1693
01:24:04,586 --> 01:24:06,106
I mean, they'll arrest you for words at the moment.

1694
01:24:06,506 --> 01:24:07,606
Don't give them that.

1695
01:24:08,026 --> 01:24:12,106
Stay within the bounds of the law, but force their hand.

1696
01:24:12,326 --> 01:24:15,086
The minute you start advocating for the civil unrest,

1697
01:24:15,166 --> 01:24:19,266
which becomes violent, you're fucked.

1698
01:24:19,466 --> 01:24:22,466
Now, you might get explosions of civil unrest,

1699
01:24:22,566 --> 01:24:24,426
like we got with the Southport riots.

1700
01:24:25,046 --> 01:24:27,046
That might happen and probably will happen.

1701
01:24:27,446 --> 01:24:28,966
I just don't advocate for it.

1702
01:24:28,966 --> 01:24:30,666
I would condemn it every time I say it.

1703
01:24:30,666 --> 01:24:31,606
It's a bit like Tommy Robinson.

1704
01:24:31,746 --> 01:24:33,526
When he had his Unite the Kingdom march in London,

1705
01:24:33,906 --> 01:24:36,066
he said, be peaceful.

1706
01:24:36,786 --> 01:24:37,706
Do not drink.

1707
01:24:38,546 --> 01:24:39,966
Do not wear face masks.

1708
01:24:40,666 --> 01:24:40,866
Okay?

1709
01:24:41,066 --> 01:24:41,826
We were there.

1710
01:24:42,746 --> 01:24:44,166
I saw two things that didn't help.

1711
01:24:44,806 --> 01:24:46,526
A bunch of guys taking a piss up on the street.

1712
01:24:46,746 --> 01:24:48,286
Doesn't help you because people take photos.

1713
01:24:48,386 --> 01:24:49,806
They say, look, they're just louts pissing on the street.

1714
01:24:49,946 --> 01:24:56,326
And I saw one violent moment where they basically corralled a group

1715
01:24:56,326 --> 01:24:59,346
down to a dead end who couldn't get to where the speeches were.

1716
01:24:59,346 --> 01:25:00,946
and there were some pissed people at the front.

1717
01:25:01,046 --> 01:25:01,906
They sat in a lot of bottles.

1718
01:25:02,726 --> 01:25:03,686
Who's they? The police?

1719
01:25:03,806 --> 01:25:06,386
No, the people at the demonstration.

1720
01:25:06,806 --> 01:25:07,946
On the scaffolding.

1721
01:25:08,246 --> 01:25:10,246
But they weren't too bad.

1722
01:25:10,346 --> 01:25:11,086
I mean, it's dangerous.

1723
01:25:11,846 --> 01:25:12,706
It was dangerous, right?

1724
01:25:12,946 --> 01:25:14,586
I don't think it's their work site.

1725
01:25:15,066 --> 01:25:17,966
Yeah, but in terms of that violent bit,

1726
01:25:18,106 --> 01:25:19,406
how long did that last, 10 minutes?

1727
01:25:22,046 --> 01:25:22,406
Yeah.

1728
01:25:22,406 --> 01:25:27,726
Would you say it was less than 1% of the people at the protest?

1729
01:25:27,726 --> 01:25:30,106
I would say it's less than that.

1730
01:25:31,106 --> 01:25:32,266
I think you're talking like,

1731
01:25:32,406 --> 01:25:33,766
if there were 300,000 people there,

1732
01:25:33,846 --> 01:25:35,966
maybe 150 people got all worked up.

1733
01:25:36,006 --> 01:25:36,766
Which is always going to happen.

1734
01:25:37,046 --> 01:25:37,726
Yeah, but what happened?

1735
01:25:37,906 --> 01:25:38,906
You go to the Daily Mail,

1736
01:25:39,386 --> 01:25:39,846
what's on the front,

1737
01:25:40,006 --> 01:25:40,366
what's on the,

1738
01:25:40,426 --> 01:25:41,426
like literally the homepage?

1739
01:25:41,866 --> 01:25:43,226
Videos of bottles being launched,

1740
01:25:43,506 --> 01:25:44,546
a policeman walking off

1741
01:25:44,546 --> 01:25:45,466
with blood on his face.

1742
01:25:46,006 --> 01:25:47,146
Immediately, everyone goes,

1743
01:25:47,406 --> 01:25:48,486
it's a bunch of racist thugs.

1744
01:25:48,666 --> 01:25:48,866
Yeah.

1745
01:25:49,506 --> 01:25:50,186
And it wasn't.

1746
01:25:50,726 --> 01:25:52,226
It just wasn't a bunch of racist thugs.

1747
01:25:52,686 --> 01:25:54,686
The same happened with BLM.

1748
01:25:55,486 --> 01:25:56,606
They were more violent.

1749
01:25:56,726 --> 01:25:57,286
Way more violent.

1750
01:25:57,286 --> 01:26:03,726
They didn't lead with the violence. And if they did, they would always show the anti-BLM crowd,

1751
01:26:03,886 --> 01:26:11,526
the right-wing agitators say they've come to this course. And so do not give them anything to stop

1752
01:26:11,526 --> 01:26:17,926
you. Do not give them a reason to arrest you, imprison you, and shut you down. Mass, non-violent,

1753
01:26:18,406 --> 01:26:25,066
lawful, non-compliance. The shape that takes to be decided. All right now is people have to say,

1754
01:26:25,066 --> 01:26:32,446
this country doesn't work anymore, we cannot vote our way out of this, and I no longer consent.

1755
01:26:33,086 --> 01:26:38,686
And once the country realizes they are in charge, if they can collectively come together,

1756
01:26:38,886 --> 01:26:44,286
they can force the hand of the government. I mean, it's a big task. You know, buying a football team

1757
01:26:44,286 --> 01:26:47,966
with 40 fans and saying, I'm going to get you in the Premier League is fucking ridiculous.

1758
01:26:48,506 --> 01:26:52,246
A halfwit from Bedford with a podcast saying, we can bring down the government, we can force a hand,

1759
01:26:52,246 --> 01:26:53,126
It's ridiculous.

1760
01:26:53,746 --> 01:26:55,886
But every revolutionary moment

1761
01:26:55,886 --> 01:26:56,746
started with someone

1762
01:26:56,746 --> 01:26:57,866
with a ridiculous idea

1763
01:26:57,866 --> 01:27:15,501
and they went through with it And if you The thing that on our side is we are capturing the imagination of the public 3 people eight days after I created the Twitter account I had 1 followers

1764
01:27:16,001 --> 01:27:17,801
Last two days, I got 1,000 followers each day.

1765
01:27:20,481 --> 01:27:22,661
Nearly 1,000 have signed the declaration.

1766
01:27:23,321 --> 01:27:26,601
And most of those, the people are saying, no, no, no, no, consent.

1767
01:27:26,721 --> 01:27:27,801
This country doesn't work anymore.

1768
01:27:27,801 --> 01:27:30,541
or giving me, like they're writing a whole passage

1769
01:27:30,541 --> 01:27:31,601
on what they're fed up about.

1770
01:27:32,821 --> 01:27:35,941
People aren't happy in this country in all different directions.

1771
01:27:36,281 --> 01:27:38,521
You can't do this, if this is a period of time

1772
01:27:38,521 --> 01:27:40,921
where Labour are doing an OK, like under a Blair era,

1773
01:27:41,281 --> 01:27:44,661
you can't do this because Blair's going to get re-elected.

1774
01:27:45,841 --> 01:27:48,341
What we have now is a government that no one likes,

1775
01:27:48,921 --> 01:27:50,101
that is fucking terrible,

1776
01:27:50,601 --> 01:27:52,561
that's come after a previously terrible government.

1777
01:27:53,421 --> 01:27:56,521
And so we have a moment in time where the country is not happy,

1778
01:27:56,521 --> 01:27:57,941
almost collectively.

1779
01:27:58,441 --> 01:28:01,521
If you, at the moment, still support Labour,

1780
01:28:02,441 --> 01:28:04,781
you're either ideologically Labour,

1781
01:28:05,441 --> 01:28:08,181
you somehow benefit from it, or you're in cope.

1782
01:28:08,401 --> 01:28:09,721
You're just in pure cope.

1783
01:28:10,361 --> 01:28:13,681
And so we have a moment where, collectively,

1784
01:28:14,221 --> 01:28:15,781
the country is against the government,

1785
01:28:16,461 --> 01:28:18,261
they're just not united behind an idea.

1786
01:28:18,721 --> 01:28:21,181
They're united either behind different parties.

1787
01:28:21,761 --> 01:28:25,701
I'm saying, I don't think a party can fix this.

1788
01:28:26,061 --> 01:28:27,561
I don't think you can vote your way out of it

1789
01:28:27,561 --> 01:28:28,801
because the incentives are wrong.

1790
01:28:29,061 --> 01:28:30,381
So does that mean you're not going to...

1791
01:28:30,381 --> 01:28:32,001
I know you're not going to do the mayor thing anymore.

1792
01:28:32,121 --> 01:28:32,981
No, I'm not going to run for MP.

1793
01:28:33,001 --> 01:28:33,661
Run for government in any way.

1794
01:28:33,981 --> 01:28:34,941
Not in any way at all.

1795
01:28:35,221 --> 01:28:36,481
I don't want to be part of government.

1796
01:28:36,521 --> 01:28:36,881
I could.

1797
01:28:37,881 --> 01:28:40,241
I'd have to pass vetting, and maybe I won't.

1798
01:28:40,761 --> 01:28:41,641
You know my pass.

1799
01:28:41,881 --> 01:28:42,921
But I don't want to be.

1800
01:28:43,041 --> 01:28:43,961
I don't want to be an MP

1801
01:28:43,961 --> 01:28:46,321
because I'm suddenly stuck in the incentive structure.

1802
01:28:46,621 --> 01:28:48,281
Even if you went in and you could just speak your truth

1803
01:28:48,281 --> 01:28:50,281
because you're not stuck in the incentive structure of...

1804
01:28:50,281 --> 01:28:52,381
You don't need the wage.

1805
01:28:53,121 --> 01:28:53,541
No, no, no.

1806
01:28:53,541 --> 01:28:55,541
But you are bound by...

1807
01:28:55,541 --> 01:28:56,721
You have to toe the party line.

1808
01:28:56,821 --> 01:28:57,561
Toe the party line.

1809
01:28:57,681 --> 01:28:58,601
And that exists for a reason.

1810
01:28:58,661 --> 01:28:59,141
I get it.

1811
01:28:59,421 --> 01:29:01,861
The loyalty, you need loyalty to the leader

1812
01:29:01,861 --> 01:29:03,621
so they can execute the will of the party

1813
01:29:03,621 --> 01:29:04,361
and the will of the nation.

1814
01:29:04,981 --> 01:29:06,781
And you have the whip,

1815
01:29:06,901 --> 01:29:08,281
which says what you have to vote on.

1816
01:29:08,721 --> 01:29:11,441
And every day, once you see it, it's mad.

1817
01:29:11,561 --> 01:29:13,981
But you get your talking points down from,

1818
01:29:14,341 --> 01:29:16,921
if it's Conservative, CCHQ, whoever,

1819
01:29:17,061 --> 01:29:17,881
whatever party is,

1820
01:29:18,201 --> 01:29:19,861
and you just become part of the machine.

1821
01:29:19,861 --> 01:29:23,781
I personally think I could be an independent.

1822
01:29:24,361 --> 01:29:25,881
You could be a Thomas Massey type character.

1823
01:29:26,121 --> 01:29:27,701
Yeah, or you could be a Rupert Lowe.

1824
01:29:27,821 --> 01:29:34,321
But I think I genuinely care about the collective of this country

1825
01:29:34,321 --> 01:29:35,541
and the future of this country.

1826
01:29:35,781 --> 01:29:38,101
I believe in conservative economics.

1827
01:29:38,381 --> 01:29:39,061
I absolutely do.

1828
01:29:39,301 --> 01:29:40,521
I am socially liberal.

1829
01:29:41,061 --> 01:29:45,501
I think there are some good hearts within the left of this country.

1830
01:29:45,681 --> 01:29:48,201
And I think there are some good brains within the right of this country.

1831
01:29:48,201 --> 01:29:50,201
but I collectively want the country to get better.

1832
01:29:51,181 --> 01:29:53,741
It's funny, me and Connor were driving down today

1833
01:29:53,741 --> 01:29:56,561
and I'm in a financially good position.

1834
01:29:57,681 --> 01:29:59,161
And Connor, what was the question you asked me?

1835
01:30:00,021 --> 01:30:02,561
I said, oh God.

1836
01:30:02,701 --> 01:30:05,001
Do you worry about your financial future?

1837
01:30:05,401 --> 01:30:07,861
You worried in this current position, yeah.

1838
01:30:07,961 --> 01:30:08,901
And what was my answer?

1839
01:30:09,901 --> 01:30:12,061
I always think I could go broke.

1840
01:30:13,081 --> 01:30:15,501
And carry on, just so I'm not making this up.

1841
01:30:15,501 --> 01:30:19,421
what did I say would be the scenario if I went broke what would I maybe do

1842
01:30:19,421 --> 01:30:25,481
you would go in a cafe on a beach somewhere and chill like if I got to a scenario where my

1843
01:30:25,481 --> 01:30:29,381
financial position was all I could do is I could maybe buy a house a little small house on the

1844
01:30:29,381 --> 01:30:36,641
coast and a cafe and I could still be happy I could yeah the thing about making money is

1845
01:30:36,641 --> 01:30:41,561
it never gives you a happiness that you think it does because once you get the house in the car

1846
01:30:41,561 --> 01:30:43,601
where you're like, I still got to be happy every day.

1847
01:30:43,661 --> 01:30:44,461
What am I happy doing?

1848
01:30:45,161 --> 01:30:47,161
I'm not happy looking at my bank balance.

1849
01:30:47,521 --> 01:30:49,361
I'm not happy thinking about what I can buy.

1850
01:30:49,461 --> 01:30:52,281
I'm happy about this time I spend with my friends and family.

1851
01:30:53,321 --> 01:30:55,161
And like, if anything, I'll tell you something really honest,

1852
01:30:55,641 --> 01:30:57,641
I've been pretty down for the last six months.

1853
01:30:58,661 --> 01:31:01,461
And I've been in the best financial position of my life.

1854
01:31:03,221 --> 01:31:05,881
And the reason I've been down is the country's down.

1855
01:31:06,601 --> 01:31:08,321
You know, have you watched this?

1856
01:31:08,321 --> 01:31:10,841
Plebius?

1857
01:31:11,641 --> 01:31:12,201
Plebius?

1858
01:31:12,361 --> 01:31:13,761
That series on Apple TV.

1859
01:31:13,981 --> 01:31:14,061
No.

1860
01:31:14,501 --> 01:31:15,661
I'll tell you a little bit about it,

1861
01:31:15,701 --> 01:31:17,301
but not so it gives it away.

1862
01:31:17,401 --> 01:31:20,101
There's essentially a virus that comes to the planet,

1863
01:31:20,481 --> 01:31:22,441
and everyone infected with it

1864
01:31:22,441 --> 01:31:24,761
all becomes the same existence.

1865
01:31:25,321 --> 01:31:27,521
So everything I know,

1866
01:31:27,721 --> 01:31:30,081
I know the entirety and knowledge of every person

1867
01:31:30,081 --> 01:31:31,801
that exists, and you do too.

1868
01:31:32,681 --> 01:31:34,821
And so you become one being.

1869
01:31:35,661 --> 01:31:37,821
And I kind of feel like

1870
01:31:37,821 --> 01:31:39,621
the country's depressed

1871
01:31:39,621 --> 01:31:41,921
because

1872
01:31:41,921 --> 01:31:43,241
nothing works

1873
01:31:43,241 --> 01:31:45,181
everyone's getting poorer

1874
01:31:45,181 --> 01:31:48,221
we're all fighting over what the answers are

1875
01:31:48,221 --> 01:31:50,361
and I think I've absorbed that

1876
01:31:50,361 --> 01:31:51,181
like a sponge

1877
01:31:51,181 --> 01:31:52,601
you know

1878
01:31:52,601 --> 01:31:56,001
there's nothing enjoyable

1879
01:31:56,001 --> 01:31:58,161
about doing well in life when nobody else is

1880
01:31:58,161 --> 01:31:59,801
you buy a nice car

1881
01:31:59,801 --> 01:32:02,281
and you know somebody else can't afford a holiday

1882
01:32:02,281 --> 01:32:03,121
it fucking sucks

1883
01:32:03,121 --> 01:32:04,461
so like money

1884
01:32:04,461 --> 01:32:06,701
for me

1885
01:32:06,701 --> 01:32:11,901
Money, having money has lost meaning because I want the country to do well.

1886
01:32:11,981 --> 01:32:16,481
So if I want the country to do well, then I don't care if I go broke.

1887
01:32:16,541 --> 01:32:28,836
I don care if I lose my sponsors I don care if I care about my kids future part of the money for them but I genuinely don care anymore because there no point winning when everyone losing

1888
01:32:30,116 --> 01:32:32,196
Like, if you win when everyone's losing, that sucks.

1889
01:32:32,456 --> 01:32:35,476
And that's what it is. Assetflation is you win by other people losing.

1890
01:32:35,896 --> 01:32:36,896
I fucking hate that.

1891
01:32:37,716 --> 01:32:40,296
It's funny, it's like Connor said once... I can't say it's funny.

1892
01:32:40,556 --> 01:32:45,216
Connor said once about the juicing of the market and how it's good for us.

1893
01:32:46,176 --> 01:32:48,216
He's like, but as a Bitcoiner,

1894
01:32:48,716 --> 01:32:50,676
government's fucking up inflation.

1895
01:32:50,936 --> 01:32:51,756
It's good for us.

1896
01:32:51,776 --> 01:32:53,016
And I was like, yeah, you know what it is?

1897
01:32:53,136 --> 01:32:55,896
And then he was like, well, why do Bitcoiners argue against it?

1898
01:32:56,336 --> 01:32:58,936
And I think it's Bitcoiners know what's happening

1899
01:32:58,936 --> 01:33:01,116
and they know how to protect themselves,

1900
01:33:01,596 --> 01:33:03,696
but ultimately they don't want it to happen.

1901
01:33:04,196 --> 01:33:06,236
And I think it comes from a good heart.

1902
01:33:06,236 --> 01:33:10,396
It comes from a good moral foundation

1903
01:33:10,396 --> 01:33:13,096
about how a country should operate.

1904
01:33:13,096 --> 01:33:21,636
and so for me now I don't care if I lose my reputation my money I don't care what I lose

1905
01:33:21,636 --> 01:33:27,456
as I want this country to win and that means if as many people as possible have to win

1906
01:33:27,456 --> 01:33:35,056
the pie itself has to get bigger and everybody it's not it's not equity it's not everybody has

1907
01:33:35,056 --> 01:33:41,516
to win everybody has the chance of winning and right now they just don't Danny like

1908
01:33:41,516 --> 01:33:45,076
Like, you go into schools now.

1909
01:33:46,456 --> 01:33:48,336
Somebody showed me a photo of a school

1910
01:33:48,336 --> 01:33:50,216
where they had a big board up

1911
01:33:50,216 --> 01:33:51,916
and it was all about the Labour Party.

1912
01:33:52,696 --> 01:33:53,976
There was another school

1913
01:33:53,976 --> 01:33:57,036
where they were teaching the reformer fascists.

1914
01:33:57,896 --> 01:33:59,596
There was a professor recently...

1915
01:33:59,596 --> 01:34:01,796
They had Nigel Farage next to Adolf Hitler.

1916
01:34:02,736 --> 01:34:04,416
There was another...

1917
01:34:04,416 --> 01:34:06,256
I think it was a professor

1918
01:34:06,256 --> 01:34:09,996
who was referred to counter-terrorism.

1919
01:34:10,356 --> 01:34:11,336
Correct me if I'm wrong on this.

1920
01:34:11,516 --> 01:34:12,916
for playing Trump videos.

1921
01:34:14,876 --> 01:34:16,036
That's insane.

1922
01:34:16,156 --> 01:34:18,116
We are not building...

1923
01:34:18,116 --> 01:34:19,116
Our goal...

1924
01:34:19,116 --> 01:34:23,676
There are two groups that our lives should be dedicated for,

1925
01:34:23,736 --> 01:34:25,916
our own children and everyone's children.

1926
01:34:26,156 --> 01:34:29,156
And I say that because you have the things you can do for your children.

1927
01:34:29,276 --> 01:34:32,636
You can give them wisdom and advice and set them up financially,

1928
01:34:32,756 --> 01:34:33,776
maybe help them buy a house.

1929
01:34:34,716 --> 01:34:37,516
But there is a collective responsibility for all children

1930
01:34:37,516 --> 01:34:40,116
for the same reason I'm not happy now,

1931
01:34:40,116 --> 01:34:43,116
is there's no point Connor and Scarlet winning

1932
01:34:43,116 --> 01:34:44,716
if their friends lose.

1933
01:34:45,616 --> 01:34:49,176
And so if we continue to increase the debt,

1934
01:34:49,676 --> 01:34:50,736
our children will lose.

1935
01:34:50,816 --> 01:34:52,996
If we continue to make it harder to create jobs,

1936
01:34:53,056 --> 01:34:54,016
our children will lose.

1937
01:34:54,196 --> 01:34:56,556
If we continue to infringe on rights, our children lose.

1938
01:34:56,696 --> 01:34:57,976
Everything we're doing now

1939
01:34:57,976 --> 01:35:01,136
is making a worse world for our children

1940
01:35:01,136 --> 01:35:03,956
because we're trying to make a better world for us right now.

1941
01:35:05,016 --> 01:35:06,056
And that's bullshit.

1942
01:35:06,056 --> 01:35:08,396
We have to make the sacrifices now

1943
01:35:08,396 --> 01:35:10,396
for our children to have a better future.

1944
01:35:10,916 --> 01:35:15,196
And so if I lose, but Connor and Scarlett win

1945
01:35:15,196 --> 01:35:16,736
and their friends win, I'm cool with that

1946
01:35:16,736 --> 01:35:19,016
because that's our duty as a parent.

1947
01:35:19,216 --> 01:35:20,856
Is that not what we should be doing?

1948
01:35:21,076 --> 01:35:21,176
Yeah.

1949
01:35:21,576 --> 01:35:22,916
But adults aren't doing that.

1950
01:35:23,396 --> 01:35:24,656
They're stealing from their children instead.

1951
01:35:24,876 --> 01:35:27,276
Yeah, adults right now are saying,

1952
01:35:27,636 --> 01:35:30,336
I want a better future now,

1953
01:35:30,336 --> 01:35:32,436
even if it means my children's is shit.

1954
01:35:33,016 --> 01:35:36,256
They won't admit it, but that's literally what we're doing.

1955
01:35:36,256 --> 01:35:39,316
we are going, I want a better future now.

1956
01:35:40,416 --> 01:35:43,156
And the children, the kids, it's all about the kids, man.

1957
01:35:43,296 --> 01:35:44,996
But the kids are paying, and I just cannot,

1958
01:35:45,536 --> 01:35:48,776
like morally, ethically, I cannot be that person.

1959
01:35:49,056 --> 01:35:50,176
It's fucking disgusting.

1960
01:35:50,656 --> 01:35:52,536
It's disgusting that we're doing this.

1961
01:35:53,076 --> 01:35:54,756
And so I can't be part of a party,

1962
01:35:55,116 --> 01:35:56,996
because that means I'm part of a government infrastructure

1963
01:35:56,996 --> 01:36:00,036
and a set of incentives, which is stealing from the future of our kids.

1964
01:36:00,036 --> 01:36:01,476
I refuse to be part of that.

1965
01:36:01,656 --> 01:36:03,236
And I refuse to leave the country,

1966
01:36:03,236 --> 01:36:07,276
because what I'm doing is I'm allowing my children

1967
01:36:07,276 --> 01:36:08,636
to win in another jurisdiction

1968
01:36:08,636 --> 01:36:10,736
and just saying, fuck it to all the other kids.

1969
01:36:11,156 --> 01:36:12,396
I just cannot be that person.

1970
01:36:12,456 --> 01:36:13,716
I refuse to be that person.

1971
01:36:15,336 --> 01:36:16,476
What a way to end it, man.

1972
01:36:17,036 --> 01:36:17,436
Yeah.

1973
01:36:18,176 --> 01:36:18,836
No Bitcoin.

1974
01:36:19,396 --> 01:36:20,556
We don't need to talk about Bitcoin.

1975
01:36:20,756 --> 01:36:22,196
You've done plenty of shows talking about Bitcoin.

1976
01:36:22,236 --> 01:36:22,416
Yeah.

1977
01:36:22,976 --> 01:36:23,716
How have you been?

1978
01:36:24,156 --> 01:36:24,636
Good, man.

1979
01:36:24,656 --> 01:36:25,236
Are you enjoying the show?

1980
01:36:25,416 --> 01:36:25,636
Yeah.

1981
01:36:26,036 --> 01:36:28,376
The last trip I did, I wish you were on it.

1982
01:36:28,876 --> 01:36:30,176
In Kenya with the gridless guys.

1983
01:36:30,316 --> 01:36:31,116
It was incredible.

1984
01:36:31,256 --> 01:36:31,836
Let me tell you something.

1985
01:36:31,836 --> 01:36:34,716
One of the reasons I stopped doing the show is like,

1986
01:36:34,716 --> 01:36:37,836
it was so demanding to travel and make the show.

1987
01:36:37,836 --> 01:36:39,836
Making a show in London is more demanding.

1988
01:36:39,836 --> 01:36:41,836
Because we used to...

1989
01:36:41,836 --> 01:36:43,836
Every six weeks I went on holiday.

1990
01:36:43,836 --> 01:36:45,836
I went on holiday. It's like, Daddy, where are we going on holiday?

1991
01:36:45,836 --> 01:36:47,836
We're going to Austin. Where are we going on holiday?

1992
01:36:47,836 --> 01:36:49,836
We're going to Nashville. Where are we going on holiday?

1993
01:36:49,836 --> 01:36:51,836
We're going to Ghana. We just went on holidays.

1994
01:36:51,836 --> 01:36:54,836
Got a nice Airbnb like we were doing on holidays.

1995
01:36:54,836 --> 01:36:56,836
I would always be so excited.

1996
01:36:56,836 --> 01:36:59,836
That first moment where we'd get there and we'd go down the pub,

1997
01:36:59,836 --> 01:37:01,696
We'd have like eight beers or whatever we'd do.

1998
01:37:01,776 --> 01:37:03,716
We'd talk about Man U being shit and whatever.

1999
01:37:04,496 --> 01:37:06,556
And then our friends would come around and we'd talk to them.

2000
01:37:06,616 --> 01:37:07,876
And then we'd go and have dinner with our friends.

2001
01:37:07,976 --> 01:37:08,776
And then I'd go home.

2002
01:37:09,636 --> 01:37:12,076
And we would do that for ten days.

2003
01:37:12,696 --> 01:37:15,256
And then for like five, six weeks,

2004
01:37:15,376 --> 01:37:16,716
I'd have to have a conversation with me in the morning

2005
01:37:16,716 --> 01:37:18,056
about a title three days a week.

2006
01:37:18,676 --> 01:37:21,776
By the way, you just talked to Connor about me and him arguing on titles.

2007
01:37:22,656 --> 01:37:24,636
But that was life.

2008
01:37:24,836 --> 01:37:25,976
And it was really easy.

2009
01:37:26,636 --> 01:37:28,556
I thought it'd be easier having a studio in London.

2010
01:37:28,636 --> 01:37:29,516
It's not, actually.

2011
01:37:29,516 --> 01:37:32,816
Because we come here two, three times a week,

2012
01:37:32,896 --> 01:37:35,896
and so we lose two, three days every single week.

2013
01:37:35,976 --> 01:37:48,351
And so it harder I don have a holiday every six weeks anymore I see you less I don see our friends And yeah so it different But now you like well how long have you been doing

2014
01:37:48,491 --> 01:37:49,471
Nearly 18 months now.

2015
01:37:51,771 --> 01:37:52,471
15 months.

2016
01:37:52,711 --> 01:37:54,111
Are you missing the travel yet?

2017
01:37:54,771 --> 01:37:56,611
Because I know that was the big reason you wanted to stop.

2018
01:37:57,031 --> 01:38:01,251
No, genuinely, the biggest thing I miss is you.

2019
01:38:01,611 --> 01:38:02,131
I swear.

2020
01:38:02,631 --> 01:38:04,571
No, but it comes in two ways.

2021
01:38:04,571 --> 01:38:05,351
Like there's a drift.

2022
01:38:05,351 --> 01:38:09,371
No, but there's a, like, even the, we used to speak every day.

2023
01:38:09,451 --> 01:38:09,651
Yeah.

2024
01:38:09,831 --> 01:38:11,571
Now it's every three, four days.

2025
01:38:11,591 --> 01:38:11,771
Yeah.

2026
01:38:13,731 --> 01:38:15,611
And we were, but we were on a mission together.

2027
01:38:16,171 --> 01:38:17,151
It's cool, it's gay.

2028
01:38:17,451 --> 01:38:18,811
But we were on a mission together.

2029
01:38:19,611 --> 01:38:21,531
There's a fog in a row, you're on yours and you're on mine.

2030
01:38:21,631 --> 01:38:21,751
Yeah.

2031
01:38:21,891 --> 01:38:23,351
Like, we're doing our own thing.

2032
01:38:23,431 --> 01:38:24,171
And I miss that.

2033
01:38:24,271 --> 01:38:25,511
I miss that.

2034
01:38:25,691 --> 01:38:31,371
But then I also miss the, I would always get excited the day before traveling.

2035
01:38:31,811 --> 01:38:33,131
It's like, yeah, we're going to go away.

2036
01:38:33,171 --> 01:38:35,171
We're going on holiday and get to the airport.

2037
01:38:35,351 --> 01:38:37,051
get on the plane, land, see you, have the beers.

2038
01:38:37,111 --> 01:38:40,251
And then I'd miss seeing like Matt or Harry or Hodel getting together.

2039
01:38:40,611 --> 01:38:41,731
That's why Vegas was great.

2040
01:38:41,971 --> 01:38:42,991
Are you going to come to Vegas next year?

2041
01:38:43,131 --> 01:38:43,611
Yes, I am.

2042
01:38:43,731 --> 01:38:43,851
Yeah.

2043
01:38:44,151 --> 01:38:45,271
So I miss that.

2044
01:38:46,411 --> 01:38:53,851
I don't miss, I don't even get to think about missing Bitcoin as a topic

2045
01:38:53,851 --> 01:38:55,571
because this has become so central.

2046
01:38:55,571 --> 01:39:00,971
But no, I miss, without being condescending, I'm very proud of what you've done.

2047
01:39:01,231 --> 01:39:01,691
Thank you, man.

2048
01:39:01,711 --> 01:39:03,151
I wish you nothing but success.

2049
01:39:03,151 --> 01:39:04,651
there's no one in the world

2050
01:39:04,651 --> 01:39:04,951
who

2051
01:39:04,951 --> 01:39:06,031
who

2052
01:39:06,031 --> 01:39:07,231
could have taken it

2053
01:39:07,231 --> 01:39:07,851
and made it better

2054
01:39:07,851 --> 01:39:08,931
which

2055
01:39:08,931 --> 01:39:10,431
I think you're doing

2056
01:39:10,431 --> 01:39:12,331
I think so too

2057
01:39:12,331 --> 01:39:12,951
I think so

2058
01:39:12,951 --> 01:39:13,891
I mean

2059
01:39:13,891 --> 01:39:15,691
does anyone miss me?

2060
01:39:16,111 --> 01:39:16,971
I get a lot of comments

2061
01:39:16,971 --> 01:39:17,531
especially

2062
01:39:17,531 --> 01:39:18,611
I used to get a lot of comments

2063
01:39:18,611 --> 01:39:19,291
asking like

2064
01:39:19,291 --> 01:39:20,191
where you've gone and stuff

2065
01:39:20,191 --> 01:39:20,791
I got one

2066
01:39:20,791 --> 01:39:21,611
I don't know if I told you

2067
01:39:21,611 --> 01:39:22,011
who's Pete?

2068
01:39:22,171 --> 01:39:22,411
yeah

2069
01:39:22,411 --> 01:39:23,531
who's Pete comment

2070
01:39:23,531 --> 01:39:24,031
who's Pete?

2071
01:39:24,751 --> 01:39:25,151
yeah

2072
01:39:25,151 --> 01:39:25,571
listen

2073
01:39:25,571 --> 01:39:25,971
look

2074
01:39:25,971 --> 01:39:27,671
you'll hand it over maybe one day

2075
01:39:27,671 --> 01:39:28,551
and that's a cool thing

2076
01:39:28,551 --> 01:39:29,831
but yeah

2077
01:39:29,831 --> 01:39:30,071
look

2078
01:39:30,071 --> 01:39:30,851
I miss you

2079
01:39:30,851 --> 01:39:31,571
I miss

2080
01:39:31,571 --> 01:39:33,131
yeah I miss a lot of people

2081
01:39:33,131 --> 01:39:34,131
of things, but...

2082
01:39:34,131 --> 01:39:35,771
I'm tired these days.

2083
01:39:35,771 --> 01:39:36,591
You're on an important mission, man.

2084
01:39:36,691 --> 01:39:37,591
And doing what I'm doing.

2085
01:39:37,731 --> 01:39:38,371
I'm doing what I'm doing.

2086
01:39:39,011 --> 01:39:40,211
How is the football club doing?

2087
01:39:40,311 --> 01:39:42,311
I've honestly struggled to follow it this year.

2088
01:39:42,431 --> 01:39:43,451
This is our toughest year.

2089
01:39:43,671 --> 01:39:51,531
We were up to a position where if we won our games on hand, we would go joint second.

2090
01:39:52,291 --> 01:39:55,031
And then we went on a run where we won 10 out of 11.

2091
01:39:55,191 --> 01:39:55,811
We were brilliant.

2092
01:39:55,991 --> 01:39:59,091
And then we just had a little bit of a sticky patch where we've lost a couple and drawn

2093
01:39:59,091 --> 01:39:59,471
a couple.

2094
01:39:59,471 --> 01:40:02,391
or, you know, we lost on Saturday.

2095
01:40:02,551 --> 01:40:03,231
Again, we should have won.

2096
01:40:03,331 --> 01:40:04,511
We just didn't finish our chances.

2097
01:40:04,951 --> 01:40:07,251
It's the fine lines.

2098
01:40:07,491 --> 01:40:10,911
You get less chances, so you must take your chances.

2099
01:40:11,931 --> 01:40:16,971
And equally, you have to be much more disciplined in defense.

2100
01:40:17,791 --> 01:40:19,451
So, yeah.

2101
01:40:19,731 --> 01:40:20,811
And so it's just harder.

2102
01:40:21,271 --> 01:40:23,211
So is automatic promotion out of the question now?

2103
01:40:23,391 --> 01:40:24,931
No, but it would be very hard.

2104
01:40:24,931 --> 01:40:26,351
We need to go on an epic run.

2105
01:40:26,451 --> 01:40:28,051
We've got to beat the team at the top twice.

2106
01:40:28,051 --> 01:40:31,271
I take playoffs now

2107
01:40:31,271 --> 01:40:33,411
I'd be over the moon with playoffs

2108
01:40:33,411 --> 01:40:36,031
but to go 6, 5, 4, 3

2109
01:40:36,031 --> 01:40:37,071
and get playoffs in 3

2110
01:40:37,071 --> 01:40:37,891
would be epic

2111
01:40:37,891 --> 01:40:38,911
what I do know is

2112
01:40:38,911 --> 01:40:39,811
I know how to win it next year

2113
01:40:39,811 --> 01:40:40,991
like if we want to go

2114
01:40:40,991 --> 01:40:41,671
and win it next year

2115
01:40:41,671 --> 01:40:42,491
I know how to win it next year

2116
01:40:42,491 --> 01:40:43,031
just more money

2117
01:40:43,031 --> 01:40:45,051
not just more money

2118
01:40:45,051 --> 01:40:47,451
it isn't always just more money

2119
01:40:47,451 --> 01:40:49,251
some of it is time

2120
01:40:49,251 --> 01:40:50,251
and some of it is

2121
01:40:50,251 --> 01:40:51,411
like this year

2122
01:40:51,411 --> 01:40:52,491
Spaldinger Harbour

2123
01:40:52,491 --> 01:40:54,331
have been trying to get the promotion

2124
01:40:54,331 --> 01:40:56,131
for 2 or 3 years each now

2125
01:40:56,131 --> 01:40:57,451
and they've just gone for it

2126
01:40:57,451 --> 01:41:01,471
if they both go up next year,

2127
01:41:02,311 --> 01:41:03,931
that doesn't exist in the league.

2128
01:41:04,631 --> 01:41:05,771
We're kind of one of them,

2129
01:41:05,831 --> 01:41:07,191
and Kettering will kind of be one of them,

2130
01:41:07,411 --> 01:41:08,651
and then the other teams around it

2131
01:41:08,651 --> 01:41:11,311
don't have the access to budget that those two do.

2132
01:41:11,631 --> 01:41:13,251
So it's not necessarily more budget.

2133
01:41:13,551 --> 01:41:15,971
Maybe it's just more consistency,

2134
01:41:16,611 --> 01:41:19,011
more training time with the players,

2135
01:41:19,091 --> 01:41:20,091
more contact time,

2136
01:41:21,831 --> 01:41:24,731
you know, a couple of players maybe change.

2137
01:41:24,871 --> 01:41:25,691
Not necessarily money.

2138
01:41:25,691 --> 01:41:27,771
It's just more getting the pieces together.

2139
01:41:29,531 --> 01:41:33,111
But yeah, with the football,

2140
01:41:33,331 --> 01:41:37,571
I always used to go and watch the league above and two leagues above,

2141
01:41:37,651 --> 01:41:39,291
and I'd always be scared of two leagues above.

2142
01:41:39,411 --> 01:41:41,131
I'm not scared of this division in the slightest,

2143
01:41:41,331 --> 01:41:43,171
but a couple of years ago, I was like, fucking step three is hard.

2144
01:41:43,491 --> 01:41:44,931
I'm not even scared of step two now.

2145
01:41:45,471 --> 01:41:46,891
Step one is the one that scares me.

2146
01:41:47,611 --> 01:41:51,191
And so we've got the best manager in non-league football.

2147
01:41:53,091 --> 01:41:54,651
He knows how to win this league.

2148
01:41:55,691 --> 01:41:56,711
And he will win us this league.

2149
01:41:57,171 --> 01:42:01,271
And then when we get to step two, we'll do the same again.

2150
01:42:01,371 --> 01:42:05,631
I think the project of Football League in 10 years is still on

2151
01:42:05,631 --> 01:42:08,811
because we've got six years now, seven.

2152
01:42:09,731 --> 01:42:11,671
Including this season, it's seven to do three.

2153
01:42:12,411 --> 01:42:14,911
And I think each one will take at least two years.

2154
01:42:15,051 --> 01:42:16,171
We should do it in nine.

2155
01:42:16,791 --> 01:42:17,451
So I think it's on.

2156
01:42:17,451 --> 01:42:20,391
So when we have cheat code, it won't be playing for the...

2157
01:42:20,391 --> 01:42:22,391
That'll be basically before playoffs,

2158
01:42:22,451 --> 01:42:23,851
they'll be fighting to get playoff places.

2159
01:42:24,131 --> 01:42:24,411
Maybe.

2160
01:42:24,671 --> 01:42:25,371
Maybe secured.

2161
01:42:25,371 --> 01:42:26,671
maybe still fighting for the league.

2162
01:42:26,771 --> 01:42:28,311
We won't win the league that day

2163
01:42:28,311 --> 01:42:30,331
because it's earlier in the year.

2164
01:42:30,931 --> 01:42:31,811
Buy your tickets for cheat code,

2165
01:42:31,931 --> 01:42:32,771
cheatcode.co.uk.

2166
01:42:33,131 --> 01:42:34,531
We need to do a lot of talking about cheat codes.

2167
01:42:34,531 --> 01:42:35,331
Yeah, we do, we do.

2168
01:42:35,551 --> 01:42:37,591
But yeah, no, no, I'm very confident.

2169
01:42:37,851 --> 01:42:38,391
Very cool.

2170
01:42:38,571 --> 01:42:40,551
Yeah, so keep doing your thing, man.

2171
01:42:40,591 --> 01:42:40,911
Love you.

2172
01:42:41,111 --> 01:42:41,731
Thank you, Pete.

2173
01:42:41,871 --> 01:42:42,371
This is awesome.

2174
01:42:42,591 --> 01:42:42,751
Cheers.

2175
01:42:55,371 --> 01:43:25,351
Thank you.