Why do we have to listen to 40 hours of Bitcoin?
I mean, I only have so much time in a week.
I do a lot of things.
I do a lot of reading.
I do a lot of writing.
I mean, how could one possibly commit themselves that much to one single topic and have a fulfilled life?
I ask that as a philosopher, actually.
I mean, Lynn Alden is everything, if you will.
She's a stellar human being, hot, the whole nine.
I mean, the greatest macro analyst, an amazing venture capitalist.
We're just, you know, we're lucky to have her in the space.
I think before Bitcoin, men were more visual.
But after Bitcoin, men get off by hearing the voice of other men say sweet nothings into their ears about this beautiful orange currency.
Right.
this is one of the powerful things that dennis porter is off of the world
is men no longer need viagra
so that was another question that fits right in is how did these guys at orgies get these just
unrelenting boners before dennis porter i'm talking viagra like medicine songs not having
well i mean i would say so saturn requires hard work i mean you guys know very well how hard it
to be Bitcoin podcasters.
And I think a lot of people underestimate
the work that it takes.
So I think you're absolutely right.
There's this structural push towards sovereignty
and maybe individual expression
would be another form that that could take.
And so to me, it makes sense
that people would start getting,
you know, if they're really passionate about Bitcoin,
they'd be like, how can I help the revolution?
Like, let me get on and have a podcast with my friend.
But the warning there is like,
it's going to take a lot of work.
You know, you have to like every week or every other week or whatever.
You got to sit down, you got to record, you got to edit the episode, you got to promote the episode.
Like it's a try being an influencer for a day.
You know what I mean?
Well, what you do is you start with an emotional trigger, something upsetting.
You tell them that people doing things that you may not like on Bitcoin is what's causing the price to go down.
And then you offer them, you know, light at the end of the tunnel.
Here's a solution to make the price go back up.
when you're a new and you're new to bitcoin and you've just started listening to bitcoin podcasts
the only way that you can even begin to discern which idea or which you know way of using bitcoin
is the best is by whose memes are dunking on whose that's all you know it's like well this
meme is constantly ratioing this person and their stupid memes their pod conf memes so they must be
wrong i'm gonna go be non-compliant for a little while until i can figure it out welcome to the
weekly and wow has it been a crazy year folks i think i don't know rod what do you think has it
was it a crazy year were your expectations on par with how crazy it's been or did it exceed your
expectations. If you go back and listen to our predictions about a year ago,
most of the December episodes, early January episodes of this podcast, 2024, 2025,
we were predicting a massive year, a big year, a bullish year, a bull market Bitcoin podcast
is what we're transforming into.
And we knew it was going to be huge.
We knew that the fourth turning was right around the corner
and that Bitcoin was going to be critical
in underwriting the institutions of the future.
Little did we know, you know, it's like the meme
where it's like an entrepreneur's journey
is it starts this linear line to the top.
In reality, it's full of peaks and valleys
and cliffs and obstacles to overcome.
So we're not going as clearly, as straight, as linearly to the top as we expected.
But it was still a big year.
It was the sloppiest year in recorded history.
I just don't think anybody was prepared for how sloppy 2025 would be.
It was definitely the year of plebswap.
and I think people are frustrated by that which is understandable but I don't know why they're
frustrated by us just reporting that it was the year of plebs law because it was very very clear
I think where our predictions were wrong or at least my predictions were wrong is I I had
hope for a lot more substance but oh yeah i i mean i shouldn't have been surprised donald trump
is the plebs law president he is the king of american plebs law
and part of it is people have been used to listen like whether you were a fox news dad
or a fox news uncle where you were an msnbc mom msnbc on and his msnbc uncle um or you know a cnn
grandma or they used to watch the daily show whoever that is gen x losers um or or the newer
time 15 matter you knew you had an outlet to go to find journalists who would glaze you and people
love being glazed by the news love being glazed by their favorite podcasters their favorite
journalists and that's it stopped people are no longer being glazed by the journalists
and we stopped and people were we were just reflecting reality as news reporters
duty is to do without that glaze and people it can't handle it they they they hate being told
the truth absolutely yeah it's it's difficult to look into the next year and feel very optimistic
i think it's just something that's interesting when you have the end of the year
and the start of the new year be right at the beginning of the coldest stretch of winter
is just interesting from a psychological standpoint
of it being cold.
Like we're in the middle of paper Bitcoin winter right now.
You're looking into 2026.
It looks like there's going to be no chance
of paper Bitcoin summer.
The bull market, you had the bullish news.
You had the Simply Bitcoin guys losing their minds.
Niko's freaking out.
The institutions are here.
Super bullish.
Price doesn't act bullishly.
you've got
an ecosystem
and a group
of individuals that used to
just love to get super excited
posting memes about
have fun staying poor and
making fun of no coiners and how
rich they're going to get and their Lambos
and their girlfriends that they're
going to get when the price hits this certain point
you had the
100k party
and this
All these guys, what they want to do is they just want to argue about CSAN.
They're grumpy about Paper Bitcoin Summer.
What was the 100K party?
What was that?
It was a bunch of influencers glazing themselves, glazing each other, getting glazed on the yacht.
We had won.
Bitcoin had already won.
time time for a big city party but instead of astral glide it glaze We glazing each other And Donald Trump he takes office All the HR ladies are getting fired All the DEI woke policies are
getting ripped out. Elon Musk pierces into the federal government with a Trojan horse full of
broccoli haircuts and they just descend inside the bureaucracy with their little with their ai tools
and the broccoli haircuts are just slashing boomer budgets left and right finding money laundering
bitcoin put it in a strategic reserve they're going to take all the savings that the broccoli
haircuts have found in the pentagon and they're going to put it in the strategic reserve they
free ross everything was going bitcoin's way and then the price kind of started to fall apart and
tariff started to come into the conversation and people were like dude dude you promised us
it was gonna go glazing glazing into glory with bitcoin in 2025 and no it didn't go like i said
the way we thought and the first the first sign of the slop and the just nonsense that was to come
was Maxi Madness.
Absolutely everybody.
If you had a poly market, a predicts market
for who was going to win Maxi Madness in March,
early March, 2025,
every club would have put his vote,
his saps on yellow.
Everybody expected yellow.
They thought maybe Saylor was coming in,
maybe Dennis Porter, Mike Shinobi,
maybe it might be their year.
But no, everybody knew at the end of the day,
this was yellow's tournament to lose he won last year he beat chiacomo
absolutely coasted and then what happened petty bitcoins started slaying heroes all the way
through the memer's bracket petty bitcoins defeated the hottest of all in all in the final four
and the petty bitcoins took out yellow on his on his path to the finals everybody was shocked
And at the end, the votes coming in for Maxi Madness for Teddy Bitcoins versus Joe were in the hundreds of thousands, kicking up by the thousands, by the second in the final minute of that poll.
And then tens of thousands of votes came in for Teddy Bitcoins.
His fans woke up and they absolutely showed up.
And Teddy Bitcoins went all the way to the final.
Michael Saylor, the pioneer of AI slop and AI generated images.
Count AI muscles.
He was the first to do AI muscles, not BTC sessions.
And Teddy Bitcoins beat Saylor.
And people were absolutely grumpy.
I've never seen Bitcoin Twitter as grumpy as I did.
as I saw when Teddy Bitcoins eat Michael Saylor and Lynn Alden
in yellow and Nasty Madness.
It happened.
And the sun came out and shone bright for paper Bitcoin summer briefly.
But other than that, there was no, every club's been grumpy
since Teddy Bitcoins won Nasty Madness.
Every single one of them.
Yeah, it was wild.
that was that was really telling how the year was going to go that event it was just going to be a
year of things not going the pleb's way i don't think it was hardly anything went the pleb's way
this year at all it was it was the first maxi madness of hyper bitcoinization right like it was
the biggest maxi man that every everything everything was big in 2025 everybody was
prepared everybody had created incredible logos for their paper bitcoin for their conferences
for their their their influencer tournaments the stake the stage was set for bitcoin bitcoin
podcasters call everybody the influencers the podcasters the podcasters were ascending to the
rise in the bureaucracy and the government all over the world podcasters were taking over and
maxi madness was like our olympics like who's who's going to take it home and
the first big event everybody was looking forward to they were excited to vote for yellow they're
excited to vote for dr adam back they're excited to vote for lynn alden they're excited to vote for
johnson they're excited to vote for tomer they're excited to vote for green candle all these guys
and it just it turned out exactly how it needed to turn out but it it was not the outcome people
wanted to see people were starting to see what it what had become of everything it was the first
where it was the first opportunity to see how the year was going to unfold,
and they did not like the foreshadowing.
No.
I think the plebs had this expectation in their head
that the price was going to get the God candle
and that they were going to return home to their hometowns
as hometown heroes, and they'd be walking in the grocery store,
and everybody would turn around and be like,
wow, that guy listened to Bitcoin podcasts,
and everybody would stop and start clapping for them
as they got out of their Bentley with their shirt fur driving it for them.
And what happened instead is, you know, they get to the end of the year
and they can maybe or maybe not afford a Christmas presents
for their family after taxes.
And, yeah, it really was foreshadowing for the year that it was just, yeah.
Teddy Bitcoins was the dark horse that came in and rained on everybody's parade.
You said it.
What were we talking about last December?
2025, like everything they said, hyper-Bitcoinization, all this.
But at the end of the day, it was supposed to be the year
where everybody could afford their taxes again.
Everybody's going to be able to afford their taxes,
and people who could afford their taxes were about to,
it was about to be their time.
They're about to get the benefits, the profits, the earnings.
The taxpayers had earned a lot and they've been getting very little for it.
It was about to be their year.
And that just turned out to be, you know, more like a to-be-continued.
It's definitely not here yet.
Absolutely.
Well, Key 2 is pretty interesting.
There's a lot that went on there.
There's the Vegas conference, which last year was the stable coin conference.
That was the major topic of that event of the PodConf Super Bowl.
You had the Israel versus Iran war going on.
You had the, I debated Mike Brock.
That was a pretty big event.
I'm trying to think, is there anything other else that was notable for Q2?
I think for Q2, the defining moment is what you mentioned.
It was your debate with Mike Brock.
Does that really put the podcast in the spotlight big time?
I mean, the Vaseline Madness was a spotlight for the Bugle.
Not necessarily.
I think it was a big win.
I think a lot of smart people think it was a big win, big year.
but that spotlight I don't know people were not ready for what happened with Teddy bitcoins
but we were in spotlight again with that debate because Mike Brock is an executive he worked very
closely with Jack Dorsey he was a he would go on podcast talk about being a libertarian and how Bitcoin was this tool And he was building it in the cash app
like one of the first companies to really embrace Bitcoin.
Mike Brock is a heavyweight of Bitcoin.
And he is a sophisticated philosopher.
You dismantled him.
You send him with his tails between his blades back to substack, back to his echo chamber.
So reflecting on that, how would you, how do you see that in hindsight?
Because that was very much a tipping point for you and for the podcast with that debate.
Yeah, I think it was an interesting moment.
I mean, it's just, there's these times where like, you know, that as a Bitcoin podcaster, as a Bitcoin podcast listener, as a Atlas shrugged reader, as a cigarette smoker, that you're so far ahead of other people.
but up until the point where you actually have some sort of toe-to-toe competition
like i did with with mike brock with the sophisticated philosopher
it's just it it makes it so much clearer when you have that type of competition to just see
how much further ahead you are than these guys that are suffering from trump derangement syndrome
that are lost in outer space
that identify with the villains of an Ayn Rand novel.
Yeah, I don't know.
It was a fun moment.
This is a lot of plebs.
And we'll definitely get into Matthew Cratter
and Bitcoin University here later in the show.
But a lot of them, their ideas, their predictions, their philosophy, their game theory, their ability to think for first principles.
It is put on display.
It's sheltered.
It's protected from outside criticism, outside attack, outside questioning, anything like that.
um and it's like it's like people who do uh kung fu or they train martial arts with steven seagal
and steven seagal when steven seagal is on the mat with with his uh with his students he barely
has to exert air he's flipping these guys up and down their head dismantling them with full without
breaking a sweat uh but you you go against you put one of those students against the jiu-jitsu
black belt and it's over within a matter of seconds because jiu-jitsu practitioners work
every day or it doesn't matter how sore they are no matter how sick they feel uh they are
testing their ideas against people stronger than them from all different backgrounds
in their learning and it's like matthew cratter is the type of guy who's not going to the mat to
role with uh black belts in the you know mean gangers black belt plaits black belt cypher punks
uh it's he's sticking to his classroom is his border off classroom and he's he's basically
just beating up plaits without anybody coming in to to challenge him who's his own weight class
yeah yeah mike brock's kind of it's been interesting following mike brock because i
didn't i didn't follow much of his sub stack stuff before but i watched a few conversations
he's had since and uh he seems to exclusively curate people in his life that will glaze him
he seems to live in this echo chamber of only selectively allowing people in
that will glaze him which which gives him this unrealistic expectation or understanding of
of where he's at where in his mind he is the world's premier most sophisticated philosopher
and the people speaking with him agree with that now i think as journalists we live in a very
different environment than that we are out there on the battlegrounds constantly getting shit hurled
at us and uh dishing it back it's a very adversarial environment that we're operating in
constantly so you constantly get feedback as to what
i don't know you just get feedback in general besides people just telling you that you're the
smartest uh most sophisticated philosopher in the world you get angry plebs you get angry uh
um bitcoin developers you get angry uh sophisticated philosophers you get angry
you know just a slew of angry people constantly coming after you that you got to analyze their
responses which i think is just a it's a good position to be in uh because it
it's being in that adversarial environment like in that that like if you're a black belt
jiu-jitsu practitioner and you're out there and you're only uh training with white belts
you think you're going to be the best in the world and what's actually going to happen is
your skill sets going to degrade whereas in many ways we're we're black belts dealing with
black belts of journalism dealing with black belts of all sorts of other you know practitioners of
different skill sets that were challenging on a regular basis and uh i think that's part of the
reason why you know individuals like matthew cratter just are so alarmed by us because they
they want to protect their like matthew cratter is that black belt and bitcoin university is
exclusively full of white belts he doesn't allow anybody in that isn't a white belt
because he is afraid he's he's the presser the professor that's you know afraid that a student's
going to make him look stupid and challenge him that's why he expelled stew from bitcoin university
uh yeah i think cratter is afraid of the plebs ultimately and so he tries to shield himself
from any pleb who's stronger smarter or might challenge him and he's just that's cratter
he's cultivating a community of compliant plots but compliant to bitcoin university's ideology
and there's going to be a lot more of that because mike brock ran into i think a similar problem that
a lot of people have they they they they discover bitcoin and they think that they found a cheat
code so they can now play life the game of life on easy mode you know they they they're just they
You're going to go through like a Mario just dunking on the plans, like Mario jumping on the little mushrooms,
just bopping them on the heads, and they go, is this going to be that easy?
And then they're going to go and they're going to find the Fiat Bowser who's holding some hot babe who is just,
all she cares about is money.
And once you have enough Bitcoin, she's going to realize, like, dude, I want to go with the hero.
Just keep this game on easy money.
And they think that that's what it's going to be.
And they think that they're going to go through life once they've discovered Bitcoin and everybody's
going to be glazing them, glazing their memes.
They're going to have to because they're right.
Your friends and family have to admit that you're right.
And they find this they realize it not true And if their ideas cannot handle an adversary in an environment that their memes they feel entitled to have their memes glazed and when they don get it they wonder why
and they start to lash lash out and instead of using the feedback the high entropy feedback like
in jujitsu when you are facing that pressure somebody's trying to choke you out or break your
arm or put you in a omelette and you have to figure out how to how to navigate that negative
feedback that harsh feedback into to achieving your goals and they can't do that they they
like i said they go into the do the dojo they go into the dojo and have and they go to the dojo to
get glazed not to have an adversarial interaction well you see you see this happen all the time
where you you've got these individuals that they set up these dojos they they don't actually have
the proper credentials to be instructing their students the only people that show up are the ones
that are glazing them and all of a sudden a black belt from another dojo shows up and they're like
you're you're a faker and uh i don't remember when this specifically happened but it might have been
q2 around that time or getting into q3 paper bitcoin summer when you showed up to matthew
cratters dojo and you pointed out that he charged 790 courses and he had a meltdown right it's
it's on his website i mean if you go to bitcoin university dot if you are searching for an
institution of higher learning that that meets your values and is aligned with your incentives
and you go to, you know, BitcoinUniversity.com
and you want to enroll in courses,
you want to see this, you know, curriculum,
you want to learn about Bitcoin.
And it says $790, payable with credit card.
So we reported that.
We've said, hey, if you're looking for an alternative,
we know that college is a shit coin.
the university, ideally universities have definitely proven this year to be a shit coin.
They're a big coin university. It's an alternative. $790 is definitely cheaper than $50,000 a year
at Harvard. And he blew up on us. And like, could maybe some of his, some of the pledges who followed
him said that he doesn't like advertisement. He doesn't like people to advertise what he's doing.
He doesn't like people who market or advertise and get the word out about what he's doing because he's humble.
He just wants to help pledge, learn about Bitcoin.
He doesn't want praise and adoration.
He doesn't want free marketing.
But that was the best explanation we got.
We don't understand why he was so angry.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, it was, I mean, I think he knew that if he lets you in his dojo to spar, he would look completely inept in front of all of us students.
And that the only way for him to do it was to block you and to block the bugle and to label us as bad actors.
like he i think he was fairly self-aware in that regard of knowing that is the only way to deal with
journal journalists of our caliber and bitcoin podcasters of our caliber because
i'm still blocked by mike brock by the way i think he realized that too that in that scenario
when I went into his dojo and I hammered him,
he had to pretend like it didn't, it never even happened.
Like he never ended up publishing that video.
He never references it.
He kind of exists like it never happened.
And I don't know.
Well, yeah, that is the last refuge, right?
Like if you do something embarrassing and it makes the news,
you you just have to shut your mouth and hope that nobody reads a newspaper
and the bugle is a smaller organization so it's less likely that uh people especially in
los angeles like it is uh in the circles that he runs in are going to read the bugle and and see
how embarrassing his uh he you know is his sparring match with some credential journalists
of our caliber uh you know he's gonna hope that they don't see he has learned not to
not to uh raise attention to the journalism written about him by us because you know he
realizes the truth to it absolutely he doesn't want to call attention he doesn't want to call
attention to the truth that is what matthew crowder is constantly trying to avoid he doesn't
want to call attention to the truth he wants to uh he wants to just scare the plebs absolutely
well q3 was pretty interesting uh it was really the kickoff of paper
paper bitcoin summer you you had a great paper bitcoin summer
why do you the paper bitcoin summer was great if you what's the term right like if you knew
the good old days if you knew in the good old days when they were happening you could stop and enjoy
them it's like i knew right away that paper bitcoin summer was too good to be true but nobody else
knew that so there was still a lot of parties a lot of optimism and i decided to join them i decided
to join paper bitcoin summer and have a good time because i knew uh it was it was definitely
too good to be true wasn't gonna last but you know that's why i didn't buy any paper bitcoin
i have what you contrary to popular belief you don't even have to own bitcoin to be a part of
bitcoin community to be a part of bitcoin twitter i mean swan didn't have any bitcoin they would
take they would take your fiat and keep it and then give give you somebody else's bitcoin it's
kind of like an otcd that's the operation there but they were getting fiat you don't have like a
what was his name um uh who was the guy that crashed out super hard last cycle he's on clubhouse
he's got like he's like the old guy uh the old jewish cranky guy bitcoin tina bitcoin tina right
bitcoin tina didn't know bitcoin he's had he crashed out because he had uh gbtc a lot of people
who had gbtc ended up crashing out um you don't you know you don't have to buy paper bitcoin to
get in to the parties to get into the fun to get in on the means to get in on the action
so I had a great time I just enjoyed it for what it is I didn't put my put my money into any stupid
stocks so I had a good time and if you did that mostly you had a good time too but some people
they didn't they didn't they they were Peter Kallatsy never wanted paper bitcoin summer to end
yeah I didn't go to any of the parties
uh yeah you were grumpy for paper bitcoin summer i remember that i wasn't that grumpy i i i just
live vicariously this summer i was a little bit grumpy but i wasn't that grumpy i just i i live
vicariously through you i watch you having fun going through the going to the parties and i had
fun watching you have fun and you can do that too you can do that too there's a lot of people
who enjoyed the April Bitcoin Summer vicariously.
I did enjoy, I mean,
I was kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum
where I really enjoyed watching
a lot of plebs and podcasters
get really grumpy about Bitcoin Summer,
paper Bitcoin Summer.
And they were a lot grumpier than I was.
And that just made me chuckle.
I had a lot of chuckles seeing how grumpy they were
because they were grumpy.
You know, I think we both, like you said, we both knew it was too good to be true that it wasn't going to last very long.
I think I at least was impressed with how short the summer was.
I thought it was going to last a little bit longer.
But, yeah, I don't know.
It was just funny to see the emotions on all sides.
well a lot of people invested a lot of money and a lot of energy a lot of their reputations
in paper bitcoin summer and they some of them knew what they were getting into some of them didn't
some you know everybody had a different reason for coming to paper bitcoin summer
but you know what i mean it's people spend a lot of money and it didn't work out right
But that is, see, that is part of where truce comes in.
Because everybody likes to talk about, they like to glaze paper Bitcoin.
Everybody was glazing paper Bitcoin.
All the opportunities to buy paper Bitcoin companies, to buy with leverage,
to get outperform Bitcoin, to be more interesting than Bitcoin,
to be better than Bitcoin.
People loved to glaze paper Bitcoin, but they didn't love to talk about the risk and how big the risk was and what the risk was and what the rules of the game were.
How would these paper Bitcoin companies be treated by debt markets, by credit markets?
You know, fundamentals, he's trying to talk about this a little bit.
He's a little autistic and he sometimes has trouble explaining himself.
But I think people are starting to listen that Fundamentals has very good instincts about risk.
And he would, but very few people were willing to talk about paper Bitcoin's risks.
And people got caught, glazed and confused with paper Bitcoin's summer.
Ended short, ended abruptly.
And they were like looking back and they're like, Jesus, I was absolutely, I was blacked out on glaze.
I was glazed out and I just couldn't see what, you know, I couldn't see.
Now I have glazed goggles on.
And it's all really was, I think.
I think it was just a sloppy glaze.
That was a wonderful time.
I'm really sad at the prospect of not having another paper Bitcoin summer this upcoming year.
But we'll see.
It might come back.
well it's it will come back because it may not come back in exactly the the same
shape or form as paper bitcoin summer but there is no doubt in my mind that plebs had not stopped
i've not for there will not forget again how to glaze in moderation plebs cannot glaze in
moderation they always overdo it and in paper bitcoin will be glazed hard again just like gbtc
was you know a few years ago yeah we'll see if teddy bitcoins wins uh the next maxi madness
because i think that will be a huge indicator for how uh paper bitcoin summer will go but uh
yeah there were some other things big things that happened q3
it ended with the podcaster getting shot charlie kirk getting shot there was uh the peak of the
I think it's fair to say that the Nazi node wars have peaked,
and it's all downhill from here for them.
But it was the peak of the CSAM debate,
and the term plebslop really started to go mainstream and catch on.
Those were the big defining moments of Q3 from my perspective.
Yeah, yeah, the Charlie Kirk.
Every podcaster remembers where he was today the moment they found out
that Charlie Kirk had been shot.
And every podcast listener, the same.
There was a lot of, you know, that feeling that this acceleration
was building up towards something, this forth-turning energy
was building up towards something.
when Charlie Kirk got shot it felt like the the pressure had been building to this moment and then
the release valve was going to be action and we didn't know if it was going to be righteous action
if it was going to be violent sloppy action we didn't know what would this action was going to
be but it felt like I mean the the FBI the church the justice department is led by a podcaster
a podcaster is investigating the assassination of a podcaster we thought this was going to go
a certain way our predictions i think broadly were not very accurate at least our time for
references weren't because we did not realize how sloppy it was going to be this moment was going to
unleash the triol but most importantly slop especially the kind of ugly vicious
knee-jerk antagonistic type of slop that came and that's what really it really
doiled into you and it the ccm kind of came after this you're a pedophile if you don't run
knots and this filter uh this filter scheme that we've got like we're saving bitcoin you're a
pedophile you're a you're putting child you're enabling child pornographers or that charlie
kirk deserved it or this is racist or these people deserve to be assassinated or every single
immigrant needs to be loaded into a catapult and fired into the gulf of america okay it the
patriotic slop just that came from it and what has so far been the development
of turning point usa in the wake of charlie turk's death his wife erica is turning his estate and his
legacy into club slot she's turning into wwf righteous gemstones um usa e2 bomber epstein
diddy party pleb slot and that's disappointing because a podcaster he was to people were
comparing it to martin luther king or george floyd and just like george floyd is like as he
became pleb slot absolutely or is becoming or is becoming pleb slot so it's like that was kind of
the marty event because right right before charlie got shot just i think it was a week before that
is when Dennis Porter stopped making announcements.
Dennis Porter almost, it's like he sensed what was coming
and stepped out of the limelight for his own protection.
He stopped making announcements.
And then Charlie was shot and then everything's devolved
and the plugs will happen.
We've been in an announcement recession.
Yeah, it was almost like there was an implosion.
I feel like
Q3 was
in many ways
it was like a controlled demolition
of a lot of ways
and PLEPSLOP was the
the orchestration of this demolition
of like
Erica Kirk is
PLEPSLOP controlled demolition
at Turning Point USA
you got CSAM being the control the Pledsoe Lov control demolition of the spam wars You got Dennis Porter announcement slowdown
I don't remember when his last announcement was.
It was the California guy, which I think happened a little bit after that.
But Dennis Porter announcement, slowdown,
was the demolition of the Bitcoin price in the bull market.
You got the Epstein list being the pleb slop demolition of the excitement around the pleb slop presidency.
It just.
It's.
The glaze got unsustainable.
There's there.
It's impossible to glaze the amount of slop coming our way.
We cannot sugarcoat the truth anymore.
because it's coming at us too fast, too high definition,
from too many perspectives, from too many angles.
It's one of the things I tweeted after Charlie Kirk got shot,
because that was the week after that girl in Charlotte,
that hotline girl got stabbed to the neck by that dude that should have been in prison.
And it was, you couldn't stop,
you couldn't avoid seeing an image of somebody getting stabbed in the neck or shot in the neck
on on any timeline that week or that two weeks and it was i tweeted like you might as well watch
the video you might as well look at it because you can't avoid the truth anymore the truth is
common and it's if i would add to that it's like the truth can is no longer going to be glazed the
revolution will not be glazed and that's kind of where it is like we he's became unsustainable and
now we have no way to rose tinted glasses we use to view reality there's no escape we cannot go to
any single outlet television channel newspaper and get glazed like we used to
yeah Q3 was really that inflection point in the fort turning I think this it was really the that was
the quarter that's going to define the future of the of the fort turning just the entire
what's the word the entire atmosphere of what it's going to be like what it's going to feel like
political discourse, the way that people communicate with each other,
general violence, just the economic chaos,
the way that information flow works,
the types of topics that people will podcast about,
the way that podcasters will argue with each other,
the way that institutions are just going to collapse
and faith and trust in them,
the way that excitement will just fizzle out,
people will turn on each other.
Q3 was wild.
Q3, that's, I mean,
he had Core V30 that activated on, what,
October 30th or October it was Halloween basically we had the spooky spooky spaces
the death of Bitcoin and lo and behold it was absolutely it obviously we know that core v30 is
not the most likely explanation for why the Bitcoin price crashed from all-time highs in
October and has been on a downward bear market tilt ever since.
However,
lots of pledge sloppers love that explanation.
I'd love to share.
Adam Semeckis got the highest IQ.
He sees a correlation.
So it's at least we're talking about,
but I'd say maybe,
maybe the better angle on it is that the accumulation of our decisions
of our consensus more broadly in the Bitcoin community
and the broader general society has come to fruition,
and Bitcoin's price can't keep going higher if we can't glaze the truth.
We have to find a better way to glaze the truth or to tell the truth.
Otherwise, Bitcoin cannot sustain.
Absolutely.
Well, we're at the end of Q4.
Q4 has been just dealing with the aftermath of Q3 pretty much,
and it seems like it's setting up for just the beginning of next year.
I think the defining moment of this quarter was Dennis Porter's disappearance.
He has not—I think we're getting close to 30 days at this point of no tweets,
no announcements.
Price dipping.
People are questioning whether we're in the bear market or not.
You got the samurai developers going to prison.
You got the quantum people slopping about quantum FUD everywhere.
It's cold.
It's cold outside.
We're definitely in a cultural winter.
if not a price winner but yeah a few weeks ago we were optimistic that uh we're going to be at 100k
right around now we thought we're going to get another 100k party
on michael saylor's yaw i mean today we were talking about trying to revive vides capital
or at least have somebody advice capital make sure that uh tatum had a good suit a good tuxedo
to wear the Sailor's next 100K party
because there's a good chance he's going to run into Aubrey Strobel there.
Didn't want to wear his wrinkly old church clothes to the 100K party.
But it's, again, our optimism is not meeting reality.
Is it pointless to be optimistic, I guess is my question.
is going into 2026 is it cringe to be optimistic i think in a lot of ways yeah i mean it just kind
of depends on what you're optimistic about i think there's a lot of things to be optimistic about but
it's just i think a lot of people are not looking forward to another thanksgiving another christmas
next year i hope having to having to face disappointed there you know family members
saying i told you so they're not looking forward to maybe having another christmas where the
pledge don't get christmas presents like people are tired they don't know if they can do it again
and so they just don't have the energy to be bullish they're going into 2026 and they're like
just even somebody talking about being bullish makes me grumpy i just don't have the energy
anymore yeah i mean can you blame them can you blame them i mean i think it's a it's a good
healthy uh experience for people because i i think that you know when when you build your
your house on stand when you on sand when you build your worldview on top of plebslop when
it gets dismantled by the storm i think it's a good healthy experience like the pain that
people are experiencing right now is uh it's healthy because you should feel
pain like when you build your life on top of what law you shouldn feel optimistic about the pleb slap narratives that have been dismantled by reality But does that mean that you not optimistic entirely
I don't know.
You're going to have to go through the soul searching yourself to figure that out.
But no, I don't blame her.
I think it's totally a healthy, good experience to not feel optimistic about, you know, whatever's in the future.
But I would say, I would add to that, that I think at this point, you don't have, I mean, you don't have to like pleb slop.
I don't think anybody really likes it.
Some people do, but you don't have to.
You don't have to embrace pleb slop.
But most importantly, you don't have to be afraid of pleb slop.
But you do have to respect it.
because whether you like it or hate it love it or fear it it's reality pleb slop is here to stay
and pleb slop is uh the plebs can slop longer than you can not crash out basically is the way
to think about it um so just respect the pleb slop and if you respect it respecting pleb slop is like
you know it's like respecting a big uh a big ratted dog you don't have to like dog you don't
have to be afraid of the dog necessarily as long as you stay away from it and you respect it you
have nothing to worry about you will be okay that's how you should feel about plebs love
there sure are some people that absolutely love plebs love like neat neat creations
osinel gold adam samaka those guys
they love their plebs love and it's yeah i mean people people can definitely they can just they
can be they can glaze themselves and be glazed over by club slop nobody wants nobody wants to
end up in that situation those guys aren't those guys don't even love
the club or club slop addictions i guess if you really thought about it
all righty uh apologize about the cadence of the episodes it got completely turned around
with the uh holidays but here are the fountain boost folks for the quantum coral has commenced
this episode was published
I think a week
later than we intended to
Kaylee's been
running around with E. Cash Shaler
and so she's a little bit
distracted by that but
thank you for the boost on this one guys
late stage huddle says keep up the good work boys
hope y'all had a Merry Christmas
and are having a Happy New Year
we sure did
it's going to be an interesting year i mean it's uh you got the we didn't talk about this
at all in the episode but you got all the the shit going down with venezuela the empire marches on
and uh there's going to be a lot the bitcoin podcast about this year i guess that's you know
one of the ways that you mitigate the volatility of the fourth turning is you become a podcaster so
you have like a reason to deal with all the shit because you got stuff to talk about but yeah
next boost enox 616 is hey guys merry christmas to you both hope you had a great one you definitely
started this episode on high note but you nailed one thing the fodder narratives on x are constantly
shifting and the plebs keep falling for the same stuff it's fine to debate and swap ideas but
constantly fighting in the comments it's just getting exhausting it's also true that the people
you mentioned are trying harder every day to say something even more outrageous just for engagement
and they're getting paid for it honestly that's one of the reasons i'm tired getting tired of x
while it's true i've met some great people online including you guys i've also run into some many
crazies in my dms who just won't listen to reason that's why when it comes to bitcoin i'd rather
just read article listen to podcasts and check out the core newsletter x just isn't the same anymore
plus i don't have as much free time as i used to anyways i wish you all happy new year 2026 let's
see what's in store 2026 is definitely looking like it's going to be a very interesting year
yeah i mean you you see this like there's
there's been a major drop off in activity in the in the bitcoin twitter ecosystem
them and you know people oftentimes throw it up the price but it's just there's not a lot of stuff
to get excited about on there and and people are grumpy and they're you know that the algorithm is
just it like twitter seems to be the rage bait site that's what people are doing they're just
rage baiting each other they're just dunking on each other and uh i understand why it's it's
uninteresting i mean there's like a bear market across i think all the bitcoin adjacent social
media groups in general the group chats are quieter and uh you know for a lot of people
it just doesn't make sense to be participating in these platforms because they're the front lines of
of the war in many ways of the fourth turning of all these different parties fighting against each
other and jockeying for control and influence in the world and you go on there and you're just being
subjected to psyop after psyop and like that really though there's only a few reasons to be
participating in social media in my opinion one is networking two is selling something
and three is trying to either propagate or counter narratives for a variety of reasons
and a lot of people just do not understand that this is like the purpose of these platforms like
if you're out there and you're trying to propagate or counter a narrative you're like you're going
to be disadvantages kind of like playing uh at the casino in vegas you know that the house has
the advantage over you i mean you can still win in some ways but you know you might you might just
be feeding into the leviathan of information warfare unnecessarily or you know whatever but
uh it's it's it's like it's somewhat as somebody that's creating content it's kind of
i feel this pull like it's in my interest to try and get our listeners engaged on on the social
media but like i just don't think it's that good for you and so i mean that's why like all these
podcasters and podconf like they're they're always trying to to get people on social media to engage
with them and engage with the content you know whatever but like i i think dropping out
if it's just not doing anything for you if you're not feeling good why the fuck are you doing
just hang out in the group chats or you know hang out hang out with people in person you just like
you gotta do the things that that make you feel good like if it doesn't feel good just stop
and don't feel bad about it but yeah uh enoch thank you for boosting appreciate
you engaging with the podcast you too late stage hall uh jcc 2112 sat says
outro music was real toe tapper uh we we've got the the plebslaw christmas album
that was a lot of fun writing that with rod i forgot which christmas song we ended with but it was one of them Sasha 2100SAT says great show Well thank you Sasha User 222906681500SAT says I was married to quantum mechanics theoretician
but she left me for a particle physicist.
But then he divorced her to date a nuclear scientist.
but then she broke up with him to hook up with
an astrophysics
researcher
sounds like a lot of autism
to me
I feel like you know
people like that that are that educated
are really hard to interact
with because they just live in this world with so much
context that
it's like gods among mere mortals in some way and that's how bitcoin podcasters are hanging out with
with on you know no coiners 40 hour per week listeners you're kind of like a astrophysicist
but it i think it makes dating hard because the dating pool is so small you know when you're
like a super educated i don't really know what the point of this message is but it just makes me
think like when you're like a super educated individual that has an incredibly high iq
the dating pool is pretty small
i don't know whatever thank you for the boost that's an interesting boost i have no idea what
you're talking about but sounds like an interesting dating line pelican six 1001 sat says nostr is
the u.s dollar of social media um i mean that's pretty interesting that's a very very very
interesting take and uh what's the bitcoin of social media then
what's the tether of social media
i'd like to spend more time on austere uh some people do it's a major stuff on there
pies 121 sats salute emoji magnified glass steak mushroom strong arm thank you pies btc on board
100 sats thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up btc on board 100 sats says quantum is fake and gave
a vc scam until i can't confactor random three digit integer until then my younger kids are
smarter yeah the quantum fun i don't know did that already die was it like a thing for like a week and
is already dead uh the bt soundboard three thumbs up
again for 100 cents but uh thank you guys for the fountain boost thank you for being a supporter
of the bugle thank you to our subscribers uh been completely uh discombobulated with the holidays like
i i'm excited to get back into
more of a
consistent
content
push
get back on
a rhythm
get back with the interview
We're going to develop the rhythm again going into this upcoming year.
I've been working on my Heroes series.
I put a lot of thought into this next episode, which I will put out this week.
And I've got more episodes in the pipeline ready to go.
I've been working on my Heroes album.
I'm excited about that.
and uh you know we've been working on
just creating more content like uh shows and music videos and all sorts of stuff and uh
i'll be pushing out stuff exclusively or or in advance for our subscribers uh so if you're
supporting us really really appreciate it guys happy new years thank you for being a listener
of the show. We'll catch you up in the next one.
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