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Last night, the Lord gave me a dream of hope and of revival.

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The Lord showed me a town that was demoralized.

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The people were tired and the buildings were dilapidated.

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Once a vibrant city shining on a hill,

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the economy had crumbled when the coal mine that employed the townspeople had shut down,

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causing many people to lose their jobs.

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The situation seemed hopeless as a place once full of vibrant culture

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fell into squalor and the people struggled to pay their taxes.

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But then a new industry came to town, as well as a musician.

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The industry brought life and the musician brought good vibes.

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All of a sudden, a town that was gasping its last breaths was invigorated.

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People that were tired and giving up hope began to feel connection and jump with joy.

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I know that times are hard out there right now, but Jesus' message is how you can change the world with good vibes.

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The Lord commands you to lift your vibes high.

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He came into the world when the vibes were low, when the people felt like they had no hope.

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On the day he was crucified, even his followers had bad vibes.

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But Jesus conquered bad vibes once and for all so that we can conquer them ourselves.

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I know it's hard out there. There is war on the horizon.

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People are arguing about relay policy.

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Many faithful are losing hope that President Trump will pump our meme coins

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and usher in the God candle.

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But church, you do not need to wait for the God candle to have good vibes.

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Let us reject the temptation to be grumpy.

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The world needs a good vibes revival, so let us start here today on the first day of October.

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Now, church, let's sing and usher the good vibe revival into this world here and now.

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You found me when my vibes were low.

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You picked me up and healed my soul.

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We sit and wait for your arrival.

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But while we wait, let's have a good vibes revival.

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Oh, oh, oh.

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The good vibes revival.

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Summer is over.

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It's officially October.

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The season of dressing up in costumes to celebrate green candles and slurp down pumpkin spice

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plebslot.

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But sooner 2024, best known for being Paper Bitcoin Summer, was all about vibes.

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Nobody understands Vibes better than the capitalist Bitcoin pioneers

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Who branded them, monetized them, and sold them at Vibes Capital Management

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Influencers, suitcoiners, and podcasters headlined

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Paper Bitcoin Summer, draped in the hottest Vibes

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Vibes Capital Management was at one time growing faster

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Than Flutterner's Paper Bitcoin Mute List on Twitter

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And then the rainy weather washed out the summer

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and the vibes seem to dampen.

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There's no better time for a great vibes revival in October.

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All-time highs in USDT and vibes are just a few sailor pumps away

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and we're here with Walker from the Take One podcast

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to talk about the return of the vibes bull market.

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Feels like, uh, we just did this yesterday, Walker.

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How's it going?

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It's going great.

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It's nice to be on the other side of the microphone with you guys,

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even though I guess we're all still on the same side of the microphone.

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So.

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That's right.

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And if you don't know what he's talking about,

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we were just on his podcast, the Tick Point podcast.

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Last week, it came out Monday, though.

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Fantastic.

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We talked about the Plex.

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We already got into the pumpkin spice.

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And we didn't talk too much about the Vibes.

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We just talked about the strength of the Vibes in the Vibes group chat.

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How's everybody feeling?

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How was the paper Bitcoin summer?

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How was everybody's paper Bitcoin summer over at Vibes?

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Well, I think some people's paper Bitcoin summers were better than others.

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You know, it's funny because everybody assumes that like if you're a podcaster,

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if you're a Bitcoin podcaster, you must have been let in on like all of these pipe deals.

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I didn't even know what a pipe deal was. I thought a pipe deal was something totally different.

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And I had to Google it and be like, okay, better go in a secure browser for this.

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Apparently, it's not what I thought it was. But you know, as a podcaster, people just assume you

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get invited to these things. And the reality is that you don't. And people assume that people make

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a lot of assumptions about podcasters. And really at the end of the day, it's like, boy, it's a

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slog out here to be a podcaster. Not only do you have to struggle to try and find a sponsor

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to try and get invited to these pipe deals, but you usually fail at both. I didn't really try to

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get invited to any pipe deals. I just wasn't. I thought that my card carrying pod comp approved

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status would allow me to get access to these paper Bitcoin deals. It didn't. So I mean,

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personally i don't know what i'm paying dues for at this point to podconf it's just a little

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confusing totally a lot of people have been wondering what whatever happened to vibes

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capital i know we discussed this it sounds like vibes capital still thing the social presence has

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uh fallen off um what it seems like is vibes capital was kind of like the minor leagues getting

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people that were really talented and skilled prepared for the big time uh working for a paper

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Bitcoin companies so you know famously Lovka you know one of the biggest members of Vibes Capital

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went and started working for NACA and kind of used that as his launch. Do you have plans

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yourself to be a podcaster for a paper Bitcoin company or are you happy and satisfied with your

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role at Vibes Capital? You know I'm pretty happy to be just to be just selling vibes you know

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because you can't sell paper vibes, right?

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The vibes have to be the original bearer instrument.

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And I think that's a powerful thing.

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So for me, it's like, am I looking for a podcaster in chief role

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at one of these paper Bitcoin companies?

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I am not.

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I like to be a free agent, to be honest with you.

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I wouldn't want to sell out the Titcoin brand, right?

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And I know that probably if one of these companies did end up approaching me,

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you know what the first thing they do is?

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They'd say, we like the show, but you got to take the tit coin part out.

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And I think there's just fundamentally, there's a lot of anti-tit hate out there,

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which is strange.

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It's strange.

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I've actually, I've lost out on sponsorships because of this,

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because they were like, you're just a bit too edgy, and you got tit in the name.

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And I'm like, good.

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You know what that name is there for?

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First of all, it's hilarious.

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Duh.

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Second, it's a filter.

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Because if you can't take a good tit pun about Bitcoin, then what are we even doing here?

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What are we even like?

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My wife came up with tit coin.

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And you know what she has?

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Tits.

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So don't come here and try to moralize to me about how having tit in the name of your podcast and your podcast handle is somehow inappropriate.

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What I think is inappropriate is really just denigrating the role that tits have played in all of our lives.

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Because you know what?

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everybody either loves tits has tits or grew up sucking on tits name someone who didn't

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or doesn't you know and that's what i'd like to say i don't think matthew cratter likes tits

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pretty much you know it's also no comment it's also it also it's also making a statement right

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like if you have a controversial podcast where you talk about tits um

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It makes a statement for the hardware wallet to say

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If you don't like Tits, we don't want you to use our hardware wallet

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And it's like, dude, that's the hardware wallet that supports Tits

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That's a differentiator, you know what I mean?

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People don just care about the open source Or how you put together your hardware wallet If it air down They care about the community and they want to they want to transact adversarially

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with people who are not afraid of tips.

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Everybody always says we need more women in Bitcoin, right?

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Well, you know what women have, guys?

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They have tits.

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So, you know, at least unless you're one of those, you know, those Looney Tunes who thinks

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that men can, I'm sure men can have man boobs, but, but not tits. Like let's leave the tits for

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the women. Let's, let's try not to, to male feminize our way out of women being the ones

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that have tits and let's support that. And if we want more women in Bitcoin, we need to be more

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tit inclusive, not tit exclusive. I think it's also, you know, it is coincidental. Usually the

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guys who are the most uh critical about tits and bitcoin are the guys who have the biggest tits in

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bitcoin they just don't want the competition for the big tits and bitcoin like some feeling selling

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you know i love him jw weatherman he's very anti-tit but he's also the big he's like the

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biggest boob in bitcoin so it's just kind of hypocritical and it's it's it's sad to see when

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people have this and it's like i i don't know what happened during your early childhood development

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or or what uh you know what woman hurt you at some point but like it'll be okay bud just just

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go touch some grass and just remember tits are a nurturing thing right they're they're givers of

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life let's not you know let's not chase them away let's embrace them yeah i mean for these companies

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that aren't sponsoring you for that it seems like a tactical mistake because look at sydney sweeney

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and how her tits came onto the scene maybe they just don't want to be associated with being

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fascist like boobs are fascist now or at least nice ones are but who knows yeah yeah i think

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that's the key they have to be nice to be fascist like nobody is saying that uh you know the uh the

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ozempic needing uh you know blue-haired tits are are somehow fascist like those are obviously

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communist tits i think yeah well we can all we all know a communist tit when we see one you know

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what i mean like greg foss tits are communist hits for sure i don't know about that but i do

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love old old fossey i i miss his energy you know i miss i miss his unbridled energy uh and and his

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love of bitcoin we we need more of that energy just pure less of the you know whiny little bitch

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energy and more just like go fuck yourself energy whether whether who cares where those go fuck

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yourselves are flying just let the gfys fly and let the sats flow yeah you know i'll say this about

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faucet but what the way i tell people you know if they're being critical or they're nagging me about

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something i say i don't care about your opinion on this matter if you haven't listened to 40 hours

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a bitcoin podcast per week you're just not at my level it's like same with gray he's like if you

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haven't sat in the risk chair i don't want to hear it and you know holby comes back and issue

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brag no we had some tough investments but that's what happens when you sit in the risk chair

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and it's like the man in the arena it's like the man in the studio

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you either sit in the risk chair or you sit in the cuck chair which one do you want exactly and

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you know coincidentally yesterday uh the secretary of war pete hexa he told america's generals

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you don't have no more man tits in the army no more non-binary green green beret army rangers

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it is we're going back to a certain you know you gotta have some orders and discipline some

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you gotta look hot and we gotta focus on hot tits that's what we gotta focus on yeah i agree and i

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thought that was hilarious too like basically just being like you guys gotta stop being quit being so

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fat you know like and and and we really should like you you're gonna go into the fourth turning

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as just a fat lard what what like no no that's not a fourth turning body that's i or maybe it is

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actually but like you're not the one coming out the other side of that turning you know what i

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mean not not with those man boobs that's for sure so one thing one thing i want to know about you uh

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you started podcasting i believe in 2023 so right around a similar time that uh bugle launched

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uh i don't have an exact date on when you started but uh what what were your motivations to get into

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podcasting you you came in during a bear market and uh the vibes were you know relatively low

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some podcasters from the last cycle that were really notorious dropped off

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and you really, you know, stepped into the void

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and became a relatively big podcaster with an influential voice in the ecosystem.

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What was your inspiration to start podcasting about Bitcoin?

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Well, I guess it was like the reason for doing it

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was because we stopped, my smoking hot wife and I,

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stopped making short form content for which we were primarily known

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when she got pregnant or a couple months into her being pregnant.

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She's the one who did all the cool editing stuff,

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the final cuts and all those things.

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And she was the one who did the singing.

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Like I was just the face, just a little bit of the voice

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and helping with the script writing.

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And so she was doing the lion's share of the work.

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And she was like, I don't want to do this anymore.

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I'm pregnant.

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Like I'm done doing stuff.

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And I was like, I fully support that.

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And so what is a man to do?

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What is a man to do to be able to step into his new role as not just a husband, but as

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a father to prepare for that?

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And what kind of example do you want to set for your future child, for your future son?

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Well, what better example to set than to be a Bitcoin podcaster, really?

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And so that's exactly what I did.

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I just started making Bitcoin podcasts.

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I think it was around August, 2023.

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And, you know, like you guys know this,

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that it's a slog at first trying to get people to, you know,

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I didn't even start publishing video at first.

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I was just doing the RSS feed.

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Cause I was like, it's a podcast.

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Like it's not supposed to have video.

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Like, and then I, apparently I never watched podcasts

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on YouTube, like at all.

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I thought I was like kind of lame.

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I would just listen to them.

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You know, that's how I get my 40 hours per week, audio only.

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And I just assumed most people did that.

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It turns out most people watch video, which is kind of like shocking.

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So I was like, well, I better start doing these as video and did that.

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But it's a slog to grow these channels, to grow these streams.

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But for me, the goal was always create the podcast I want to listen to myself.

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create one that I think has the elements that, uh, combining the elements that are currently

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in disparate areas. So I, I wanted the American, you know, to create the American version of a,

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you know, Peter Batman McCormick podcast, uh, where, you know, it's just a, it's a lot of

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shit talking and it's, uh, everyone's having a good time and it's casual and relaxed.

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Cause that's how I like to have conversations. Not like that Lex Friedman style of like,

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when did you first realize your mother didn't love you and how did that lead to your career in

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b2b sales like no fuck that shit and but i also wanted i wanted to do reads of stuff because like

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i love guy swan's podcast it's a great bitcoin podcast bitcoin audible it's killer like he fills

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an incredible niche there but i didn't want to read just strictly bitcoin stuff i wanted to read

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Austrian economic stuff. And so I started doing that as well. And I was like, well,

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I also want to get some news in here because like, that's what I want as well. So I was like,

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well, I should just do like a, you know, a news roundup as well. So I was doing that. And I was,

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but I started with just the news roundup and the, uh, and the out loud reads

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stopped doing the news roundup. I've done a few of them in recent times, but honestly,

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it's a ton of work to pull together all that news to aggregate it. And so then it started

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leaning more heavily into just the long form interview stuff. But ultimately the goal was

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create the podcast that I want to listen to and bring value to my fellow plebs. I have a fiat job

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still. I would continue Bitcoin podcasting if I never made another dime on it. I think I said this

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to you guys in our last conversation, like I don't have sponsors right now. I have been in between

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sponsors for a while, except for Bitbox. Shout out to them. They sponsored me very early on

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And have stuck with me, but they just do like a couple episodes a month and I publish a lot of episodes

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And so like just been trying to do value for value episodes recently and we can talk about that a little bit because value for values

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Like I would never actually be able to pay the bills with value for value at least not right now and probably not for a long time But maybe someday but yeah as a Bitcoin podcaster I rambling here So feel free to cut me off So one of the things we ought to talk about is this you know

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importance of Bitcoin podcast.

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And one of the terms we use is getting enough entropy.

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So, you know, you need to listen to macro podcasts.

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You need to listen to privacy podcasts.

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You need to listen to technical podcasts.

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You need to listen to, you know, pick your category, astrology even.

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They've got podcasts, Bitcoin podcasts with astrology.

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And you've got enough entropy and you're really condensing the value of the signal you're getting.

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And it's like you can create your own private keys.

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All you need is enough entropy.

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And it's just a blank slate.

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You can accumulate so much value that is controlled by those private keys.

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So when you create a podcast, you are having to go out and listen to 40 hours per week with all this entropy so you can create a unique perspective, a unique experience, a unique format for your podcast so you can provide real authentic value.

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And we talk about this all the time, but you just explained it like totally normally, like we're using all these crazy memes.

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And you just explained your journey of and the importance of listening to podcasts.

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and the sanctity and the weight and the decision to make a podcast.

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It's like a new father.

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You put it all right there into one good example.

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And that's what we're always talking about.

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We need more good examples.

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Bitcoin podcasters are good examples.

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And we're also good.

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I think that we are good punching bags.

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That's another thing as a Bitcoin podcaster.

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You need to realize that part of your role is for people to hate you when arguments start of a technical nature and they can't actually engage with the technical argument.

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So then they need to find the non-technical person who is very vocal and talks a lot, has a deep rumbling voice, incredible hair and a smoking hot wife.

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and you need to attack that guy.

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Or you need to attack the guys who are full anon,

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such as yourselves, because you're Bitcoin podcasters too.

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You put a target on your back as a Bitcoin podcaster

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where when the going gets tough,

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everybody points their finger at the Bitcoin podcaster

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and says, it's your fault.

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And honestly, I love it though,

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because it's great if as Bitcoin podcasters,

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we can provide that cover for the builders

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who are doing the real work, right?

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It's like cypherpunks write code.

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Bitcoin podcasters get called retard all the time so that cypherpunks can write code.

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And I think that that symbiotic relationship is so important.

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And that's why, again, we need more Bitcoin podcasters because we need more Bitcoin developers.

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But to have more Bitcoin developers, you need more Bitcoin podcasters providing that cover for them, really.

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You know, like we're all in the foxhole together.

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Like we got to lay down that suppressing fire in the form of podcasts.

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Totally.

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I mean, one of the things that I think is hampering the scaling of Bitcoin podcasts is lack of controversy.

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Like a lot of people are arguing about the same things that people have been arguing for a long time.

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Recycled arguments over and over again.

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We need a whole new set of arguments.

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are you in favor of any contentious bitcoin code changes in order to or or just general purity test

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being entered into the the conversation to have a higher demand for more podcasts so people to argue

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about things i i'm always uh i'm always advocating for more just uh just more outrage i guess we need

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to make sure that Bitcoiners stay outraged. What I would like to see ideally is more outrage

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directed externally. Like we're getting rat fucked by the central bankers and the fiat politicians.

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And instead of being like, Hey, quit rat fucking us, you rat fuckers. Like we're going to, we're

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going to donkey fuck you right back. We're busy rat fucking each other here in the Bitcoin ecosystem.

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And I just think most of that is a, is a colossal waste of time. So I'm all about the controversy,

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But I'd like to see the ire that is brewing amongst Bitcoiners.

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I'd like to see more of that directed externally at the existential threats to Bitcoin.

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You know what I mean?

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I agree with you in theory.

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But in practice, when we see the rat-fucking that goes on in the industry, it's, A, these guys don't have credentials.

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So they're bringing up all these legal theories and all these legal ramifications.

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and, oh, this is going to be illegal if we change the code.

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They're not lawyers.

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We do not understand law.

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Even Zabo was getting dunked on this week

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because he didn't understand, say,

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Farber laws and other laws.

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And he should have because he was a cypherpunk, you know,

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when the regulatory clarity was not there in the 90s.

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So he should have been paying the bet either way.

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Zabo does.

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I'm pretty sure he got a law degree just for shits and gigs,

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which is like, as one does, you know.

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Sorry, continue.

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Well, you didn't have anybody, you know,

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here with you, his legal theory.

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Samson's not a good enough reviewer for legal theory, okay?

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You better at least ask Chet GVT more after Samson.

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But, you know, it's...

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They're not very good at it.

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Their arguments are pretty retarded.

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I mean, Shinobi's calling them retarded, left and right.

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Retardively, they're making all kinds of announcements,

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absurd announcements that

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people are getting laughed at.

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We do need to maybe wrap up a little

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fire-sharpened iron.

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We need a little bit more controversy,

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a little bit more drama.

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We need a few more practice rounds before we take on

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the states.

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If you win that one, it's over.

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We want to be ready.

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I agree with that.

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That's a good point.

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Perhaps all of the

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internal rat-fucking within the Bitcoin community

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is really, it's this necessary step.

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It's the practice that we go through.

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It's our sandbox to play in, you know,

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before we go in to the big wide world of, you know,

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the central bank rat fucking.

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Because, like, those guys do operate on a different playing field

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with a different set of, let's say,

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they have bigger bags they're bringing to the table.

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You know what I mean?

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They don't even necessarily need to be good at what they do.

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They've got the entrenched power system on their side,

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and they've got the money printer, right?

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So we don't have either of those things,

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but we do have better memes.

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You know, that's one thing.

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The memes, I've got to say,

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Bitcoin memes are better in bear markets.

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I've only been around for like just over a cycle now,

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you know, got it in 2020.

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And the bear market memes were great, right?

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I feel like they had some actual soul to them.

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And now the memes are like what liberals try to do when they, when they meme, which just ends up not being funny. And it's like weird forced. And there's like way too many words on their, you know, on whatever their images, they put like way too many words on there because they got to make sure they get the whole point out. Right. And like, you know, have chat GBT, right. A little bit of their meme for them because they're not actually clever enough to think of it themselves. And it's like, ah, it's just lame. It's just lame. We need, I, if there's one thing people should, should

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strive to do it is make better memes but if you try to make better memes you're gonna end up making

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shittier memes like i think you're trying to make better memes right now try less try less but do

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more yeah the very similar situation with like the u.s military or uh you know it's when they're

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dealing with the middle east we're sending over these you know trillion dollar projects these

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aircraft carriers and these F-35s, F-22s, and we're using this, while very vastly superior,

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vastly more expensive, military force, and we're just to shoot down these little cheap drones.

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And it's like, if you're, you know, I don't want to call anybody out here, but a good example,

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mechanic. He's just writing these long threads. They're just very dramatic and very performative.

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and all of that is just getting struck down by shinobi just dropping retarded if you you can't

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fight like these long threads against retard you have to have tighter memes because everybody

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they you have to have a tighter meme and you have to have more frequency yeah i agree with that and

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you know but and it is good that we call out mechanic right it is good that we ridicule

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mechanic why because mechanic is a bitcoin podcaster and when you step up to the microphone

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You know what you're doing. You know you are going to get ridiculed, right?

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And you need to be prepared for that.

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Mechanic, he knew what he was getting into when he sat down in that studio, right?

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When he started when he just said I going to become a Bitcoin podcaster Mom I going to do it And I support him being a Bitcoin podcaster He a pretty pretty convincing one Like especially if you listen without volume like it really good Like it honestly like it

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it's compelling. And if you listen just with a little bit of volume too, cause he's got kind of

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that cool accent, like that's, that's neat. Like we don't have cool accents, right? Like wish we

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did. That's like a, such a podcasting hack, but you got to be born with it. Right. And, and

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Unfortunately, some of us just aren't.

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We're just goddamn red-blooded Americans, right?

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But we play the hands we're dealt.

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And for him, though, again, I think it's great that he's Bitcoin podcasting right now.

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And, you know, I hope that he's listening to his 40 hours per week, too, though.

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That's what I'm not so sure of.

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Because as a podcaster, you still have to take in your 40 hours per week.

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You don't get a pass to that, you know?

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Richard, Richard, are you going to let him do the way it was saying that Mechanic has a cool accent?

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well i think we talked about on the last show i think we're on the same page about this about the

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psyop of the yeah it is a jackson yeah i mean it'd be interesting to have somebody and go and uh

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run his voice through uh take the transcripts and run it through you know a text of voice thing and

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an american accent to to see if people you know think differently about the things he's saying but

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But, you know, one of the great services that Mechanic is providing the ecosystem is there's people that have gained a lot of relevancy that they probably wouldn't have had before, you know, through being able to argue with him constantly.

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So you look at, like, Mr. Hoddle.

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Mr. Hoddle doesn't have a Bitcoin podcast.

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uh but in many ways he's you know he was a big deal back in the day but he's kind of got in a

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second wind as a result of being able to argue with mechanic and to be able to dunk on him uh

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you know mechanics given a lot of people a reason to podcast he's given you know when you confuse

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the plebs what they oftentimes do is they they want to listen to more podcasts in order to try

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and come to a conclusion on something and so he's created a tremendous amount of demand for the

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bitcoin content ecosystem podconf i know is stoked i know people were excited to go to these podconf

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events and see these guys argue they you know mechanics sold a bunch of tickets for them

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like look how dramatic btc plus plus was in austin that was you know people typically look at

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technical conferences and they're like oh this is boring you know i don't want to listen to you

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know these autistic people but being able to get mechanic and luke on stage with jameson and shinobi

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and matt carallo it's a it's a big deal people people are going to pay for tickets i mean that's

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kind of like you know whenever conor mcgregor fights uh in the ufc and um so yeah i would say

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mechanic has done a tremendous amount for the podconf ecosystem he yeah just you know give him

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a round of applause i might even have a might even have an applause thing i'll get the applause thing

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ready later so because we should you know we should applaud anyone who is bitcoin podcasting

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just the sheer act of bitcoin podcasting is an act is a brave act right it doesn't matter what

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you're saying as long as it is about Bitcoin.

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Because, and like you said, you know, the controversy sells and like that's selling

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tickets, that's supporting that PodConf ecosystem.

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And I think that that is a really just, it's a, it's a crucial mission really.

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Well, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, one of the challenges I think we all have, so, so Rod had a very, you know, incredible

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monologue recently a couple weeks ago that uh made it circles a lot of people listen to and he

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talked about disengaging for the debate so one of the challenges i think we all have as bitcoin

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podcasters is like trying to be discussing relevant topics but you know when whenever

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the plebs get wrapped up in a topic that doesn't matter there's so much inertia in it and so if

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you're talking about something completely different that you think matters more it's hard to get them

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to change direction and view your content i'm curious on how you navigate those types of uh

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uh, uh, forces, you know, to, um, there, there's a temptation to engage with the current thing,

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even if it doesn't matter. How do you think are some good ways to approach that issue

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of letting other people define the conversation entirely and not really having a role in it

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versus trying to define the conversation yourself and talk about the things that matter to you?

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That's a great question. I don't know. My intent was to completely stay out of this whole debate du jour.

431
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it just felt like it should be pretty self-evident that this wasn't as big of a deal as people were

432
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:44,680
making it and that this was obviously going to blow over and this was something that was being

433
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,580
used to whip people up into a little bit of a frenzy and to give people the feeling that they

434
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:55,160
are able to to do something that they're and that they are saving bitcoin because bitcoin is in

435
00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:01,540
danger, there is an existential threat that we must address and that I am the person who needs

436
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:07,020
to champion this by repeating what other people say and by retweeting the right things, that that's

437
00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:12,500
what will save Bitcoin and then I'm doing my part, right? And so I was just kind of just disinterested

438
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:19,240
with the debate because again, I've thought about the game theory of Bitcoin enough in a non-click

439
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:23,960
baity way with game theory, but like genuinely thinking, like if you spend any meaningful amount

440
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,500
of time thinking about this and about how the, uh, the economics of these things work, you probably

441
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:34,900
weren't that worried about all of this. And then I decided to wade into it because, you know, my,

442
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:39,820
my sweet smoking hot wife, uh, asked a genuine question, you know, saying like, I still don't

443
00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:44,600
understand how, how filters work. This was a couple of months ago. And I was like, well, you know,

444
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,900
I've got a funny meme for this. Like, you know, give the wife an old quote tweet and, you know,

445
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,700
do that, uh, the Mr. Invincible meme where it's like, you know, how does like X work? And like,

446
00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:56,560
that's the neat thing. It doesn't. Uh, and I was like, how do filters work? That's the neat thing.

447
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,020
They don't. And I just posted that thought it was a hilarious meme, short, sweet to the point.

448
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:10,880
Uh, the vitriol with which that meme was greeted made me go like, Oh, Oh, okay. Wow. People are

449
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:18,560
more amped up about this than I thought. Okay. Stay still stayed out of it for a little while.

450
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:26,880
and and and i've done a couple of shows about this i don't again it was just called the silent k

451
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:34,720
i've done a couple of shows with this as as a part of it um not as necessarily the whole focus

452
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:43,080
and honestly like and those shows people have again people have this fucking retarded idea

453
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,400
that like if they designate you as an influencer because nobody calls themselves an influencer

454
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,020
unless you're a fucking loser, right?

455
00:35:50,020 --> 00:35:51,600
Like I don't consider myself an influencer.

456
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,980
Like I'm literally just a guy who started making stupid short form videos

457
00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:57,960
with his smoking hot wife and then started a Bitcoin podcast.

458
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,000
If you want to be influenced by me, that's on you, bro.

459
00:36:00,140 --> 00:36:01,780
Like, you know, be your own influencer.

460
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,340
You don't need to be influenced by anyone else.

461
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,980
People like to call you this when you have somehow gotten a decent following.

462
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,420
And they have this idea that, well, if you are saying things

463
00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:17,580
that are against what my opinions are,

464
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:22,740
you're saying things I don't like. And I somehow view that as out of character for you, because

465
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:26,680
usually you say the things I like, you say the things about Bitcoin that I like, I say, I say

466
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,120
those things, and you say those things. So we must all think the same thing. And now you're saying

467
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,260
something that I don't like. And it makes me feel uncomfortable, because I haven't thought that

468
00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:40,780
deeply about it. I've just been, you know, I've been getting influenced by other people. And that

469
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:45,520
must mean that you are on the take from somebody, it must mean that you are taking money from

470
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,520
somebody that you are, that you're quote compromised, you know, that you've been compromised

471
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:57,940
and you're now a, a spam apologist and you're a, you know, you're going to bat for core and all of

472
00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:07,460
these things. And it's like, no, no guys, not, not going to bat for anyone. Certainly not

473
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:11,080
compromised. Like fuck, if you can find somebody who wants to compromise me and start paying me,

474
00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:13,940
please let me know. I would love to start, you know, making some money. That'd be great.

475
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:15,260
It would be fantastic.

476
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:19,300
So if you want to sponsor my being compromised, by all means.

477
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,940
I'm really, I'm compromised by plebs apps mostly.

478
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,620
So like, I guess the plebs have compromised me.

479
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,940
But I haven't changed.

480
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,460
changed how I view things. Like you've just been influenced in a different direction.

481
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:41,920
I just have a different opinion on something than you do. That's okay. We should have that.

482
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,640
It's not that big of a deal. We should still be able to debate it in a respectful and cordial

483
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,300
manner. But that's not what we've seen. And an interesting thing for me was like,

484
00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:56,140
people like to say, oh, like, you know, you're, you're just, you're just doing this because,

485
00:37:56,140 --> 00:38:05,120
to get attention or things like that. I'm like, guys, guys, me talking about this whole silent K

486
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:13,260
debate has been a negative. If I actually cared about my, quote, influencer status,

487
00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:17,520
which again, I don't. And I think that's a stupid word. Stop being influenced by other people,

488
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:22,620
influence yourself. But if I actually cared about that, I would just not talk about this at all.

489
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:31,340
Or I would just be like, I am pro silent K I'm running silent K because that is the thing that gets everybody being like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

490
00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:41,260
They're on our side. It's the, uh, in terms of people vocally speaking out, it's the minority opinion to be like, no, I think that's just, that's like, do whatever you want.

491
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:46,260
But you're not actually doing anything meaningful by running silent K.

492
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:51,820
You can do it. Feel free, do whatever you want. I think it's great. I think it's fantastic.

493
00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:55,620
but we're still just both Bitcoiners because we have the same consensus rules for Bitcoin.

494
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,560
Your mempool policy, as Michael Tidwell says, your mempool policy doesn't make you

495
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,640
a different Bitcoin or your relay policy doesn't make you a different Bitcoin or

496
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:08,380
your consensus rules do. And so it gets funny that a couple of the episodes I posted with like

497
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:13,000
the one I posted with Tidwell, who's an awesome dude, built tab conf, is also a Bitcoin podcaster,

498
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:18,080
has been for many years, just a chill dude, family guy, super smart, super hilarious,

499
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:24,420
great at chess too. I could go on and on. I love Tidwell. That episode just got so much random,

500
00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:29,420
random hate and like super low numbers. Like these aren't like numbers that are blowing up

501
00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:34,700
because people don't want to hear opinions that contradict what they believe. When they've dug in

502
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:40,740
their heels, people want to have their biases confirmed. They do not want to challenge what

503
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:46,640
they have accepted as part of their identity. Like this is a game of ultimately like identity

504
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,660
node politics right now that's what we're experiencing yeah and i just and it's a leftist

505
00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:56,900
tool ultimately so it's very funny when people are saying the core devs are all leftists it's like

506
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:01,220
i'm seeing more of the leftist tactics from a different camp but i'm not the one like there

507
00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:06,320
is no red there is no blue there are the retards and you know they are you it's like yeah the

508
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:12,000
the nazis are like trying to call themselves the and the anti-communist or the anti-anticore

509
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,360
in us but it's you know you have to it's your actions not what you call yourself right it's

510
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:23,840
it's once it's not about what's in our mempool it's once in our blocks it's not about like it's

511
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,600
not it's not about like i tell my my my grandpa he's disappointing me it's it's not about the

512
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:35,460
tattoos grandpa it's about what's in my heart i can still go to heaven with tattoos and it's so

513
00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:39,800
you know you say like we're both you're saying like we are both big winners at the end of the

514
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,840
day and they're just trying to find reasons to say why somebody's not they just want to it's an

515
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:53,240
exclusive thing i don't know i don't um i think it's gonna still play out whatever the the anger

516
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:58,360
and the animosity and like the real root of this conflict is i really don't think it's

517
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:05,260
about ordnance and i don't think it's really about being in men pools i think it's something deeper

518
00:41:05,260 --> 00:41:13,360
and he was just, you know, hats it to Mechanic for being such a good podcaster

519
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:20,060
that he got the plugs riled up enough that people are starting to work out their differences

520
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:21,660
and starting to transact that.

521
00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:25,880
It's just all getting along and pretending to get along because we're all, you know,

522
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,540
in this fight with Bitcoin together.

523
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:30,820
It's like, well, we do have disagreements and we've been avoiding it too long.

524
00:41:30,820 --> 00:41:40,080
but with conflicts this high you know i just saw a video a tiktok of some some lady at a at a full

525
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:46,360
nfl game and she she pissed off this other guy and her boyfriend had to to fight this other guy

526
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,920
and it was like oh man not a great situation if the other guy's huge but you're in like a rare

527
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:59,480
situation or it's not super rare but your wife is you know maybe used to be more famous than you

528
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,740
you're a pocket does she ever piss off other podcasters you didn't come after you and you

529
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:10,060
got to defend yourself from the plebs and from podcasters because your wife went and wrote some

530
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:18,940
checks that you're you know your mic couldn't cash usually it's uh the the the recent theme

531
00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:25,860
has been uh control your husband uh that she's had commented to her a bunch which we both her and i

532
00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:33,360
find hilarious. And so, you know, usually she's, she doesn't like to wade into these things,

533
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:41,220
you know, too much. She's busy being an amazing mother and, you know, actually creating value in

534
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:46,820
this world by raising our son. So she doesn't take too much time for the keyboard warriors

535
00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:52,000
that are out there, you know, pretending that they're changing the world without actually doing

536
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,720
anything meaningful. It's usually me that, that, that gets, that gets her into trouble through,

537
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:04,720
through the power of this gosh darn microphone, you know, it's a, but with a great microphone

538
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:10,120
comes great responsibility, I guess. And, and again, I knew, I knew this, the chair I was sitting

539
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,200
in, right. I'm sitting in the, it's not the wrist chair. It's the podcaster's chair. And ultimately

540
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,020
it's a, you know, it's, it's a risk to sit in that podcaster's chair, but it's one that it's,

541
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:22,320
So if not us, then who?

542
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,120
And if not now, when?

543
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Probably never.

544
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Like, personally, I'm just going to keep on podcasting.

545
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,640
And this is why I encourage anybody who has grievances,

546
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,440
just start a Bitcoin podcast and start talking about them.

547
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:38,740
Then you, too, can have other people call you an influencer.

548
00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:41,240
And you can be like, well, I'm not an influencer.

549
00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:44,300
And they'll be like, yes, you are, you loser.

550
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:47,640
And you'll be like, and then it'll all come full circle, guys.

551
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,800
You just have to start a Bitcoin podcast to begin that journey.

552
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:52,960
So it's your advice.

553
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:59,740
I think there's going to be a time when, as a Bitcoin podcaster, you're going to say or do something.

554
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,840
And everybody's going to be talking about it.

555
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,340
Your wife's going to hear about it.

556
00:44:04,460 --> 00:44:06,120
Your family might hear about it.

557
00:44:06,260 --> 00:44:11,660
People are going to be complaining and saying that you said something or did something controversial.

558
00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:18,140
And so you're saying your advice in this situation is to just tell your wife to worry about the kids.

559
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,900
You'll worry about the podcast.

560
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Exactly.

561
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Like my wife doesn't listen to my podcast and she shouldn't.

562
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:29,580
She gets a she gets a pot, a Bitcoin podcast every time we talk.

563
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:31,580
I mean, lucky her, really.

564
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,180
So, you know, your wife shouldn't be listening to your podcast.

565
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,200
That's that's that's not what it's about.

566
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,980
If your wife needs to listen to your podcast, then you guys aren't talking enough.

567
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:59,160
All right. Like there shouldn't need to be a microphone separating you and your wife. All right, guys. So, you know, I say Bitcoin podcast with your wife every time you guys are talking around the kitchen table. That's where the Bitcoin podcast happen with your family is around that kitchen table. Right.

568
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:05,140
save save the bitcoin podcasting with the actual microphones save that for your fellow plebs but

569
00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:10,160
you know but make every conversation with family make it a bitcoin podcast

570
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:16,560
totally um we're going into this

571
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,700
environment where i think the vibes in in

572
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:29,040
there's a pretty good chance that the vibes for many people interacting with bitcoin are

573
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:37,600
going to be tested even more so than they are today i think in the the world of the the non-bitcoin

574
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,640
podcast listener the vibes are going to just continue to reach all-time lows i think those

575
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:48,080
people are really grasping at straws they don't really have a lot of sense of direction and hope

576
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:58,560
as far as for you and just for people in general how do you feel what are some

577
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,680
just helpful ways to raise the vibes for yourself and the people you care about

578
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,820
and the listeners of your podcast?

579
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,860
Where are you thinking about that?

580
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,380
Well, I think one of the key things is touch grass and get sunshine

581
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,780
before you step in front of the microphone.

582
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,440
Because if you're going into a Bitcoin podcast

583
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,140
and you have not recently grounded and basked in the glory of the sun,

584
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,440
you're just already starting with a bad vibe, right?

585
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,800
That's, I mean, that's just like 101 stuff.

586
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:32,520
Gotta sun your balls.

587
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,540
Gotta sun your balls.

588
00:46:34,060 --> 00:46:36,340
Sun as much as you can, right?

589
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,400
As much as you can, you need to get that skin exposed.

590
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:42,000
Even if it's cold, like, I don't want to hear it.

591
00:46:42,020 --> 00:46:44,020
A little cold shock is going to be a good thing for you.

592
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:45,780
That's going to get your mind more agile

593
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:57,520
and your body prepared to sit in that podcaster chair The next thing you need to do is remember that you know you probably don need to take everything quite so seriously

594
00:46:57,620 --> 00:46:59,840
It's okay to have a little bit of fun.

595
00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:01,960
It's okay to make jokes.

596
00:47:02,140 --> 00:47:03,220
It's okay to laugh.

597
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,120
And you should also be able to laugh at yourself.

598
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,640
If you can't laugh at yourself, somebody else is going to laugh at you.

599
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,360
Probably many someones, right?

600
00:47:11,740 --> 00:47:13,860
So be able to make fun of things.

601
00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:18,380
be able to make fun of yourself and be able to have a good time with it.

602
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Like money and state has been separated.

603
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,880
It's our job now to keep it that way, right?

604
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:26,420
Buy Bitcoin podcasting.

605
00:47:27,860 --> 00:47:30,160
We may as well have some fun along the way.

606
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,460
Otherwise, what are we doing here?

607
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,220
Then we're just like the trad fi suits.

608
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:36,000
If we can't have a little fun, if we can't make a little tit,

609
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,120
a little bit tit pun every now and then, what's the point of any of it, right?

610
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,660
So I'd say have fun.

611
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:54,240
And the third point is, I guess, if you want to keep the vibes high, you really shouldn't give a fuck what anyone says.

612
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,060
Like, the only people whose opinions you should actually care about are your families.

613
00:48:00,260 --> 00:48:01,800
Like, you should care what your wife thinks.

614
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,720
You should care what your children think.

615
00:48:04,220 --> 00:48:07,280
You should care what your parents and some close relations think.

616
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,320
Maybe once you get out to second cousin, you can stop caring.

617
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,920
But depending on how cool that cousin is.

618
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,780
but you really shouldn't give a fuck what random people on the internet think.

619
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,860
Like if you do, you are going to have bad vibes throughout your life

620
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:24,020
because most people on the internet are just retarded.

621
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,620
Like, and that's not to say that I myself am not retarded often.

622
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:30,100
I identify as retarded.

623
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,480
So yes, I am often retarded.

624
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:37,540
But like, if you are going to internalize what random people online

625
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:41,640
who have never had a beer with you in person think about you,

626
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,000
like you're in for a world of trouble, buddy.

627
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:46,400
You're just going to have bad vibes.

628
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,420
So the people whose thoughts about you you should care about are those whom you love.

629
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:56,080
Everyone else's, take it with a grain of salt.

630
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,960
Don't pay too much attention to it.

631
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,280
If it's constructive criticism or a suggestion for how you can be a better Bitcoin podcaster,

632
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,800
that's different.

633
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,060
You should listen to that.

634
00:49:06,140 --> 00:49:10,200
You should listen to the people who are listening to you or giving you part of their 40 hours

635
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,680
per week.

636
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,680
but that doesn't mean you need to internalize all the bad vibes that all the other people put out

637
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:22,500
there right bad vibes abound and bad vibes are basically bad bad vibes are the noise right good

638
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:29,960
vibes are the signal and you need to focus on that signal otherwise you will be swallowed in a sea of

639
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:36,480
bad vibes noise so touch grass sun your balls yeah on as much of your body as you can before

640
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:42,680
podcasting uh i forgot what the second one was already and then don't give too oh don't take

641
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,760
yourself too seriously don't take anything too seriously we're separating money and state that's

642
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,220
a very serious thing we should have fun and then third is just don't give into the bad vibes of

643
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:58,620
random strangers on the internet they just they just don't matter and one of the one of the major

644
00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:06,020
problems it's you know it's just a function of bitcoin being a global permissionless asset

645
00:50:06,020 --> 00:50:12,360
is that there's so many different people from so many different perspectives and backgrounds

646
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,920
cultures etc looking at this and arguing about and then we're arguing these higher level problems

647
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:25,220
and often we're talking past each other um and it were it's miscommunication that's the

648
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:30,480
fundamental of you're talking to your wife, you know, arguing with your wife is you're

649
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,820
constantly miscommunicating.

650
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,140
So you're obviously constantly miscommunicating with your podcast and your social media.

651
00:50:37,140 --> 00:50:43,560
But what you can do is you can match the vibes.

652
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,520
As long as you can match the vibes, you can work things out.

653
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,760
As long as people can match the vibes and their time preferences, they can see what

654
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,480
kind of time preference brain they're working with on the other side here you know that's how

655
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,320
markets are made right like somebody's a very motivated seller somebody's very motivated but

656
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,340
whatever you just match the vibe and as long as you can match the vibe you can figure it out because

657
00:51:06,340 --> 00:51:11,980
sometimes it takes time to feel figure out what a lot of that vibes were off in the first place

658
00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:17,500
well said and i think this this goes back to something we were talking about

659
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:21,120
when we were last on a Bitcoin podcast,

660
00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:22,900
podcasting about Bitcoin podcasting,

661
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,880
you know, the good vibes are self-evident, right?

662
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,540
You know a good vibe when you see one.

663
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:29,960
And so are the bad vibes.

664
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,480
But the bad vibes are not self-evident

665
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,780
to the person who is emitting the bad vibes,

666
00:51:34,860 --> 00:51:38,100
who is excreting these noisy bad vibes

667
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,260
that are trying to overwhelm the signal of the good vibes.

668
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,420
Because the good vibes are always there somewhere.

669
00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:45,640
This is one of the reasons I love Noster so much.

670
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:54,280
there is a higher signal to noise, a higher good vibes to bad vibes ratio on Noster than on anywhere

671
00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:01,220
else I've seen. You go on X, it's a lot harder to find the good vibes signal amidst the bad vibes

672
00:52:01,220 --> 00:52:05,700
noise. You go any of these other centralized shithole platforms, it is harder to find the

673
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:10,180
good vibes amidst the bad. Doesn't mean they're not there. They very much are still there. At the

674
00:52:10,180 --> 00:52:16,160
end of the day, good vibes are the light in the darkness of bad vibes, right? They are that light

675
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:22,520
at the end of the tunnel, beckoning us towards a better vibed future. But if you're spending most

676
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,500
of your time on these centralized shithole platforms where you need to wade through a sea

677
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:32,440
of dark, bad vibe noise, just to be able to find a little bit of good vibe,

678
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,400
you know, you're going to get lost along the way. You're going to get swallowed by that sea. You will

679
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,480
drown in the sea of bad vibes and you will forget that you were there in the first place to look for

680
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,360
the good vibes. And so I would, I would recommend that people as well, if you want to increase the

681
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:53,380
vibes, spend more time on Noster. And I think a lot of the silent K's would do well to do that.

682
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Like spend more time on Noster. Look at all the incredible people. I just saw a guy the other day.

683
00:52:57,660 --> 00:53:02,620
He was a zap, zap the heck out of him every day. He's just posting videos of himself playing the

684
00:53:02,620 --> 00:53:06,940
violin, just, just riffing on the violin. And he's just doing that on Noster. He's getting

685
00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:12,320
zapped sats for it that's awesome what a what a good vibe like that's just that's just a top-notch

686
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,780
vibe and we need more of that you think you're going to see cool random dudes playing the violin

687
00:53:16,780 --> 00:53:22,740
on x no you're going to see gas station beatings and shootings because that's that is what the the

688
00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:26,000
sea of bad vibes you have to wade through on no star just opened it up i saw a cool guy playing

689
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:34,900
the violin sweet zapped him some sats that's a good vibe hell yeah yeah i think it's pretty

690
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:42,500
important to care what your wife thinks there's a lot of men out there that uh also care about what

691
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:50,640
their wives think and uh i don't know if it's symbolic or just uh it kind of shows where the

692
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:56,440
relationship is but uh then it seems like a lot of people that are married are uncomfortable to

693
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:03,200
admit that lynn alden is hot is that is that a problem for you and your relationship with your

694
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,860
wife or she comfortable with you we both love lindalden you know so that that's that's the great

695
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:12,940
thing and you know what that's kind of what i figured yeah yeah lindalden just has it you know

696
00:54:12,940 --> 00:54:18,720
why because lindalden has a great vibe lindalden is also incredible at memeing you ever notice that

697
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:24,480
too people with great vibes they tend to be really good at memes because memes a good meme is about

698
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:31,300
a good vibe and lindalden i mean i think probably what will go down in history as the financial

699
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:40,200
macro meme of the decade, maybe of the century, is nothing stops this train. I mean, what a meme.

700
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:45,840
You know, don't make her tap the sign because she will. And that's just another example. Good vibes,

701
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:51,800
good memes. That's what we need more of. All right, people. And you find a lot more of those,

702
00:54:51,880 --> 00:55:00,920
again, on Noster. So take that as you will. Totally. What's a word of advice?

703
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:07,400
like uh so your wife seems to respect glenn alden maybe a lot of other people's wives don't

704
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:16,640
you know it just seems like relationships can be difficult for certain women not all women

705
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:24,080
but sometimes like when they're when i mean you see the memes poking fun at it where the the girl's

706
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:30,520
with her boyfriend and the boyfriend's looking at another woman and she gets you know frustrated

707
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,840
by that or insecurity you think that's kind of what's going on here is is people i think the

708
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,620
thing that i find strange is that when i say lynn alden's hot people try to make it sexual

709
00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:47,540
what i'm trying to point out like you said is that she's really smart she's really good at memes

710
00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:53,580
she's got a good vibe to her she's very competent like that's what i mean when she say when i say

711
00:55:53,580 --> 00:56:00,060
that she's hot um but for these guys who who feel uncomfortable with it because they're afraid of

712
00:56:00,060 --> 00:56:03,400
what their wives will think of them or say to them.

713
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,020
Do you have any advice for these guys?

714
00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:24,880
I think they need to look inward right If you uncomfortable with the good vibes that someone else is putting off because that what it ultimately is right This is what you describing Lynn Alden hotness is related to the goodness of her vibes the strength of her memes the quality of her

715
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:31,560
intellectual pursuits. That is the hotness of Lynn Alden. And if that makes you uncomfortable,

716
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:38,340
buddy, you got to take a look right in here and right in here and ask yourself why that is,

717
00:56:38,340 --> 00:56:49,380
Okay. Because if good vibes are making you uncomfortable, it may be because, and you wouldn't realize this, you know, you can't, you can't know it yourself, but it may be because you yourself have a bad vibe.

718
00:56:49,900 --> 00:57:05,720
And, and that's, that's hard, but you know what? You can fix that. It, you can't consciously fix it. Right. It goes, it goes, it's so much deeper than just you being like, well, I'm, I'm not going to be an annoying piece of shit now.

719
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:10,480
It's like, no, that annoying piece of shit that's still going to shine through,

720
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,400
that weak little man is still going to shine through.

721
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,120
You've just got to, I don't know, I guess just start with touching grass more.

722
00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:22,940
Like, it's a cliche, but literally just go walk outside.

723
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,180
Take off your shirt.

724
00:57:24,780 --> 00:57:26,100
Take off your pants if you can.

725
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:28,780
Go walk around in the grass in the sunshine.

726
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:33,760
That is, like, there is no way your vibes will become worse

727
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,520
when you are walking around,

728
00:57:36,020 --> 00:57:37,740
bare skin exposed to the sun,

729
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,540
those rays just beating down on your open,

730
00:57:40,820 --> 00:57:43,400
your bare chest, feet touching the grass,

731
00:57:43,660 --> 00:57:45,460
just soaking in that energy of the earth

732
00:57:45,460 --> 00:57:47,560
as you dispel all that negative energy.

733
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,600
There's no way your vibes get worse when you're doing that.

734
00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:52,740
So that's a good place to start for folks, I think.

735
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:54,900
There's not enough grass touching happening.

736
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:57,100
And the thing is, it's not even winter yet, guys.

737
00:57:57,460 --> 00:58:00,080
It's not even winter yet and your vibes are this bad.

738
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:03,520
Imagine, imagine how bad the vibes are gonna get

739
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,760
once it's the dead of winter and people are like,

740
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,660
oh, I can't, it's too cold on my feet.

741
00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:11,140
Like, no excuses, no excuses.

742
00:58:11,620 --> 00:58:14,920
Use your feet to melt the snow all the way down

743
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,260
until you find the grass to touch, you know?

744
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,660
But if you're not doing that in the summertime,

745
00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:20,080
you're not doing it in the wintertime either.

746
00:58:20,260 --> 00:58:21,740
And your vibes are going to get worse.

747
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,200
Like they're going to get worse.

748
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,320
And it's going to be sad to see.

749
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,000
See, you know, sometimes I think vibes

750
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,240
are similar to like having bad breath or, you know, nice breath.

751
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:40,900
do you when do you when he wait do you do it in private and public right away do you wait if you

752
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:46,000
know you've got a friend with bad vibes or you know you do and do you want people to just come

753
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,920
be forthcoming and tell you if you know you've gotten your vibes stink like how do we approach

754
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:56,800
that how do we encourage each other to have good vibes do you need each other room to

755
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,600
experience their own vibes

756
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,300
but then step in and

757
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,680
let them know it's time to cut the shit

758
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,040
it's time to up the vibes

759
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,140
it's time to stop the wall

760
00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:09,220
it's time to get the podcast going

761
00:59:09,220 --> 00:59:11,120
get them pumping out

762
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,980
you've got so many in the queue, let's go

763
00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:16,140
what's your advice in navigating that?

764
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,060
well, you guys aren't going to believe this

765
00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:22,220
but I think the advice might come down

766
00:59:22,220 --> 00:59:24,020
to starting a Bitcoin podcast

767
00:59:24,020 --> 00:59:28,380
and just making those first few episodes totally for yourself

768
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:31,580
and checking your own vibes on those.

769
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,600
Try to step outside of yourself

770
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,040
as if you were a listener to your own Bitcoin podcast.

771
00:59:38,380 --> 00:59:41,560
You're just another pleb trying to get there 40 hours per week.

772
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,900
And do a vibe check on yourself.

773
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,680
What kind of a vibe are you really giving off?

774
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,980
Can you be objective about it?

775
00:59:47,980 --> 00:59:50,160
Do you have the ability to step outside of yourself,

776
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:51,700
to go out of your own body,

777
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:55,220
and to look back at yourself and say,

778
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:59,320
is that guy a guy I'd like to get part of my 40 hours per week from?

779
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,460
Because that's ultimately what a good vibe is, right?

780
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:05,980
If somebody wants to get part of their 40 hours per week from you,

781
01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:08,240
you probably got a good vibe.

782
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,380
You don't want to get part of your 40 hours per week from a bad vibe.

783
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,920
Why would you want that?

784
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,100
You don't want to be inundating yourself with bad vibes.

785
01:00:15,140 --> 01:00:16,280
You got 40 hours per week.

786
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,220
You got to make them count.

787
01:00:17,780 --> 01:00:20,140
So I think that really so much of it,

788
01:00:20,140 --> 01:00:24,440
so much of fixing your own vibe does come back to after you've grounded,

789
01:00:24,540 --> 01:00:25,740
after you've soaked in some of the sun,

790
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,100
getting in front of that microphone and starting that Bitcoin podcast.

791
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:35,200
And then really just reflecting on whether or not you are a Bitcoin podcaster

792
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,100
who you yourself would give part of your scarce 40 hours per week to.

793
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,380
Because if you're not, if you wouldn't give yourself part of your scarce 40 hours per week,

794
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,060
you probably got a bad vibe.

795
01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:52,740
So many things are fixed with Bitcoin podcasting.

796
01:00:52,940 --> 01:00:57,360
You know, that's really, it's not a panacea, but boy, it's pretty close.

797
01:00:58,940 --> 01:01:00,580
Yeah, that's some pretty sound advice.

798
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,760
I appreciate that.

799
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,520
Kind of incredible.

800
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,920
We have over 70 views on Zapstream for this conversation.

801
01:01:09,380 --> 01:01:09,740
I know.

802
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,360
Like, you multiply that by like 100,

803
01:01:13,660 --> 01:01:17,060
and that's basically what it would be on the centralized platforms, essentially,

804
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:18,140
from what I've seen.

805
01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:24,780
like you gotta you gotta multiply that zap.stream amount by by 100 sure maybe 50 you know but i i

806
01:01:24,780 --> 01:01:29,120
think that's that that's fair you know it's it's tough to get people to come on zap.stream but

807
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,400
whenever people do i'm like this is this is awesome you guys are not only giving me part

808
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,120
of your 40 hours per week but you're giving me part of your 40 hours per week on a censorship

809
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:43,500
resistant open protocol for communication that is fucking cool well it's kind of funny when you

810
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:50,580
think about it from when you're operating and i think we learned this firsthand when you're

811
01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:58,600
operating on a value for value standard in the bitcoin ecosystem one pioneer is worth a thousand

812
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:08,580
plugs you know the plugs that are out there they're they're gobbling up sailor uh slop

813
01:02:08,580 --> 01:02:14,600
they're uh talking about how you should never spend your bitcoin they're calling nostrigay

814
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:22,720
you know those types of plebs what one pioneer that's actually doing something with their lives

815
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,640
is worth a thousand of those guys

816
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:33,940
yeah it's you guys had a you were talking about this a little bit uh in your one of your last

817
01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:40,380
episodes behind the podcast with Odell and that idea that, you know, a lot of those people out

818
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:45,840
there are just complaining and not doing anything. They can't even be bothered to get on Noster.

819
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,400
They can't even be bothered to do that. And I think the comment you made was, you know,

820
01:02:49,460 --> 01:02:53,320
tongue in cheek because, you know, because the UX is too hard or something, which at this point,

821
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,920
it's just not like, yeah, there, if you're, if you're a podcaster trying to live stream on Noster,

822
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,260
it can get a little bit tricky, but for the average person who is just going, you know,

823
01:03:02,260 --> 01:03:07,560
going on primal going on domus the ux is pretty darn good like you have to be yeah at this point

824
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,560
you have to be a little stupid not to be able to figure it out but so many of you know but again

825
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,920
maybe it's like do we want those bad vibes over on noster the nice thing is that people with bad

826
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:21,540
vibes tend not to stay on noster they tend to come over they rage post for a little bit while

827
01:03:21,540 --> 01:03:25,380
a little while they realize nobody gives a shit about their rage posting over here because there's

828
01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:31,020
no algorithmic incentive for them to rage post and nobody you know like gg says you wouldn't zap

829
01:03:31,020 --> 01:03:36,280
a car crash nobody wants to zap your bad vibes you want to zap good vibes and that's ultimately

830
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:41,620
to distill gg's point down a little you wouldn't zap a car crash right you'll look at a car crash

831
01:03:41,620 --> 01:03:46,520
you'll maybe be enthralled by it you won't zap it you won't buy your value you know this is why

832
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:53,680
this is but you won't zap bad vibes you'll zap good vibes this is what planet or did last on uh

833
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,980
on nostril right like they nobody wanted to pay and zap planet or complain about paperback coins

834
01:03:59,980 --> 01:04:04,720
summer so he left he turned right around what would he make you know wise

835
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:14,780
yeah you've not even won i don't think but i do like your point um it is it's maybe rfk because

836
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:21,900
rfk really got into podcast during the uh elections last year if rfk could just make it so that any

837
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:26,820
therapist or any psychologist or psychiatrist when somebody comes in they're complaining about their

838
01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:28,900
life and everything's going wrong and they're

839
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,000
oppressed by everything, the first thing

840
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,780
they should do before they

841
01:04:32,780 --> 01:04:34,340
give them

842
01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:36,720
a pill is ask them,

843
01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:38,580
have you tried farting around on Nostra?

844
01:04:40,780 --> 01:04:42,760
Don't own download Primal. Fart

845
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,800
around on Nostra for a couple hours.

846
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,980
If you don't feel better, you can have

847
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:48,080
some Xanax. You know what I mean?

848
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,300
You gotta try something.

849
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:51,320
Totally.

850
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,300
Maybe even before or

851
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:56,320
after, if just going on

852
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:02,380
Noster doesn't work by itself. Maybe then before the Xanax, try starting a podcast or maybe before

853
01:05:02,380 --> 01:05:06,260
that even get your 40 hours per week of Bitcoin podcasts. And then like, there's, there's so many

854
01:05:06,260 --> 01:05:10,600
stages you could take before pharmaceutical intervention needs to be there for some people

855
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:15,440
with, with a true imbalance, a chemical imbalance that can't be righted in any other way.

856
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:21,980
Sure. Whatever. Uh, but like for most people, I think Noster 40 hours per week of Bitcoin

857
01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:27,720
podcasts that'll fix you and if that doesn't start one for yourself and that'll probably fix you uh

858
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,480
or at least make you realize how much of a problem you have if none of those things do fix you

859
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:43,780
totally um well one of the things we do at the end of the show is uh we go through our

860
01:05:43,780 --> 01:05:51,060
founding boosts at the previous interview show that we did uh out of curiosity walker uh what

861
01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:57,420
what shows are your favorites that you listen to on a regular basis what makes up your 40 hours per

862
01:05:57,420 --> 01:06:05,540
week? Well, you know, even though Peter McCormack is doing less Bitcoin podcasting these days,

863
01:06:05,540 --> 01:06:11,700
and more political podcasting, I still do love his show. I don't listen to it as much as I did

864
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:18,800
before. Just because you know, I'm trying to ingest as much Bitcoin Bitcoin content as possible.

865
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:25,060
But luckily, you know, then I have I have good old Danny Knowles to be able to fall back on I can

866
01:06:25,060 --> 01:06:29,780
still get that nostalgic. Danny has an accent too. So it's almost like if you close your eyes

867
01:06:29,780 --> 01:06:34,440
and you just squint a little bit, it's almost like Peter's back there again. Danny's doing a

868
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:40,640
great job. He's a great Bitcoin podcaster. And I love that his story is coming on board to help

869
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,180
Peter with his show because he's like, hey, your audio sucks. You need to be a better Bitcoin

870
01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:49,240
podcaster. I can help you be a better Bitcoin podcaster. And by George, he did it. And then

871
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:55,080
what does he do? He takes over the reins and becomes the Bitcoin podcaster himself. I mean,

872
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,460
it's a beautiful story, really, of Bitcoin podcasting and how you can just do things.

873
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,980
You can just tell somebody their podcast sucks. You want to fix it. Make it the biggest Bitcoin

874
01:07:03,980 --> 01:07:08,220
podcast in the world. When they go off to start becoming the prime minister of England and saving

875
01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:13,660
that cesspool from itself. Thank you, Peter, for doing that because we need the UK saved.

876
01:07:14,660 --> 01:07:18,560
But then you step up to the plate and you become the podcaster yourself. You become the man in the

877
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:25,400
studio or in the main podcaster's chair. Guy Swan is still on my heavy rotation,

878
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,360
as is Preston Pish. Your guy's show has entered my heavy rotation as well.

879
01:07:31,740 --> 01:07:36,760
This Week in Bitcoin came on my radar recently because it was on top of the fountain charts.

880
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:45,740
I started checking it out. TFTC, Marty Bent. I mean, these are some classics. Obviously,

881
01:07:45,740 --> 01:07:47,660
I'm not throwing out anything too crazy here.

882
01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:50,520
Let me go into my fountain list.

883
01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:54,120
I enjoy very much Natalie Brunel's show as well

884
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:59,240
for when I want to see how a journalist should really conduct themselves.

885
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,460
And it's always like, wow, I am not a serious person over here.

886
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,800
But the world needs all kinds, right?

887
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,400
Her show goes to the top of the charts and makes it to the normies,

888
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,460
which I think is just huge.

889
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:16,080
Also, guys, I do want to point out our episode that we did together.

890
01:08:16,380 --> 01:08:17,580
Oh, it's down to number three now.

891
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:21,080
Rabbit hole recap all in Bitcoin has just surpassed it and taken the two spot.

892
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,800
But it was on the number two spot on Fountain's hot list.

893
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:26,240
So that's pretty sweet.

894
01:08:27,900 --> 01:08:29,040
There's another one I listened to.

895
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:33,460
Actually, it's not a Bitcoin podcast, but I do enjoy it every now and then.

896
01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:34,820
It's called The Carousel.

897
01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:37,420
It's pretty decent.

898
01:08:37,420 --> 01:08:40,300
It's more about political, cultural vibes.

899
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:47,940
it's it's it's it's pretty solid um yeah i mean those are my those are my main ones i i like uh

900
01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:54,080
every now and then i'll do peter saint onges uh his weekly recap of his daily shows that he posts

901
01:08:54,080 --> 01:09:00,060
on x he lumps them into a podcast i can listen to it on fountain i like that a lot uh i love

902
01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:05,820
dave smith's show uh part of the problem it's just a it's an awesome podcast dave's got a great vibe

903
01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:12,140
to him along there with his co-host, Robbie, the fire Bernstein, they do a killer job. It's like,

904
01:09:12,180 --> 01:09:17,000
it's just a, it's a darn good podcast. Dave's a Bitcoiner too. Doesn't talk about Bitcoin a ton

905
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:23,220
in his show, you know, pretty infrequently, but he's a Bitcoiner. He's made that clear. He's given

906
01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:27,980
some great talks at panels at Bitcoin conferences and he's got just a killer podcast. I enjoy

907
01:09:27,980 --> 01:09:32,440
listening to it because he's also, cause he's funny. Like, you know, I think this is why

908
01:09:32,440 --> 01:09:38,360
comedians make such great podcasters and why, you know, people during the election, everyone's like,

909
01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:44,020
they, you know, Trump is talking to all these just random comedians with their podcasts. And it's like,

910
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,940
because people actually want to listen to them. They don't want to, nobody's getting, I mean,

911
01:09:49,940 --> 01:09:54,340
if you're getting 40 hours per week of CNN, you're a fucking retard. Like that's just like,

912
01:09:54,340 --> 01:10:00,060
and if you weren't, it's going to make you retarded. Like it is just talk about boomer slop,

913
01:10:00,060 --> 01:10:04,780
but comedians they make great podcasters because they ask great questions because they don't take

914
01:10:04,780 --> 01:10:10,500
everything too freaking seriously they're able to make you laugh while discussing something that's

915
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:14,560
maybe really heavy they're able to get people to open up a little bit where they otherwise might

916
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,840
not have and i think that's a beautiful thing you know it's we we need more podcasters we need more

917
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:24,380
comedian podcasters it's it's fantastic so yeah that's that's a lot of my heavy rotation i also

918
01:10:24,380 --> 01:10:29,960
dabble with uh with other random shows every now and then uh but but yeah this is the difficulty of

919
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,840
when you are a bitcoin podcaster you have less time to listen to bitcoin podcasts but you still

920
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,840
got to try to get those 40 hours per week you got to try you know you don't always succeed

921
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:44,580
but the important thing is that you tried totally what's what's what's heavy rotation for you guys

922
01:10:44,580 --> 01:10:59,260
ungovernable misfits that's a good point in um plug chain radio uh rock paper bitcoin uh

923
01:10:59,260 --> 01:11:07,580
see what else once in a while i'll dabble with all the ones that you're you mentioned i i've

924
01:11:07,580 --> 01:11:13,680
been avoiding listening to dave smith because i i just think libertarians are running the playbook

925
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,880
on how to lose and it kind of gets tiresome but you know i feel like even dave kind of admits that

926
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:24,480
too though you know like he's kind of like listen you guys are not being super serious about this

927
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:31,420
but this is why libertarianism needs it needs orange pilling like libertarianism doesn't like

928
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:35,120
it's kind of toothless without fixing the money you know it's like it's like okay

929
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:40,880
now that's the way they're that's the way they want it though that's how libertarians like it

930
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,980
yeah if they wanted to win they wouldn't be libertarians they'd be doing something productive

931
01:11:44,980 --> 01:11:51,380
it's kind of like being a bitcoin club and just um consuming all the sailor slop

932
01:11:51,380 --> 01:11:55,160
this is yeah it it is um

933
01:11:55,820 --> 01:12:02,620
i would say they need more podcasts but like if they really became good podcasters then they'd

934
01:12:02,620 --> 01:12:08,120
move on to other things uh is because like to go back to something you said a little bit earlier

935
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:14,620
like one of the reasons to start a podcast is because it's a vibes feedback you're letting out

936
01:12:14,620 --> 01:12:20,440
very you're putting out vibes on very important matters very very crucial important fundamental

937
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:27,020
matters that need to be resolved at a much broader societal level right now and you're getting the

938
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:32,900
vibes feedback you're starting to figure out what takes makes people tick and what makes people

939
01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:37,960
seem like they're really mad or like you know have these really performative responses but you know

940
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,360
The vibe isn't, it's almost like they fit,

941
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,440
it's like you teed them up and they're trying to just hit, you know,

942
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:47,760
hit on right off of your tee up.

943
01:12:47,940 --> 01:12:57,780
But it's, I kind of lost where I was going with there,

944
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:03,320
but it's the feedback mechanism is what's important is that if you don't have

945
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,220
that feedback and you don't know the right vibes and you can't vibe switch,

946
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,520
uh it's just going to be very difficult to navigate because there's just so much

947
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:18,200
this and you know so many psyops out there that are getting you to kind of mismatch the vibe

948
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:26,840
yeah i mean there's so many good bitcoin podcasts yeah good there's so many good bitcoin podcasts

949
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,400
out there i feel like there's some uh that i listen to on a regular basis and then there's

950
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:37,800
some that i just listen to frequently like there's uh your podcast i listen to the episode with michael

951
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:45,560
tidwell once in a while listen to american hodl and eric casem when you uh have them on uh you've

952
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:54,460
got um uh daniel prance i was listening to him today you got uh there's just a wide assortment

953
01:13:54,460 --> 01:13:59,180
of people that are doing i was listening to the bitcoin matrix podcast recently and that one was

954
01:13:59,180 --> 01:14:06,440
kind of funny uh because uh once again it was about the you know the annoying debate that

955
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:11,280
everybody's wound up about and it was kind of tone deaf but it's helpful to hear that uh guy swan is

956
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:21,780
great i was listening to his uh narration of the 21 lessons by uh gg on monday um great book

957
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:32,040
yeah it's a it's a very vibrant ecosystem of uh of stuff uh there's a lot of information to consume

958
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,560
a lot of really

959
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:38,520
yeah Goomba

960
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,940
Sly Goomba's got a podcast

961
01:14:39,940 --> 01:14:42,220
I was listening to that he had fundamentals on

962
01:14:42,220 --> 01:14:42,740
recently

963
01:14:42,740 --> 01:14:45,700
yeah

964
01:14:45,700 --> 01:14:47,460
I've been

965
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:50,140
I've actually been listening to non but like

966
01:14:50,140 --> 01:14:52,200
podcast is kind of outside

967
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,000
of Bitcoin whether it's comedy

968
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,000
or there's a lot of these

969
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,260
I don't

970
01:14:58,260 --> 01:14:59,960
they're not really like Charlie

971
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,240
They're not necessarily political, but it's a very outspoken like for an ideology.

972
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:16,920
So I've been listening to kind of some of these more extreme or controversial ones that have been really popping up and kind of capturing a lot of people's attention.

973
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:20,480
Wait, we just to see what everybody's going to be riled up about.

974
01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:28,900
But when it comes to Bitcoin podcast, I mostly I've just been listening to episodes of my friends, like my friends going to be, you know, if they.

975
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:31,740
Fundamentals has a couple podcasts

976
01:15:31,740 --> 01:15:33,180
You know

977
01:15:33,180 --> 01:15:35,460
When Robbie Hamilton goes on podcasts

978
01:15:35,460 --> 01:15:36,580
I want to listen to that

979
01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:38,400
I want to listen to you know

980
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,960
Or you know

981
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,400
Somebody's going to go on with Casey and Aaron

982
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,300
On the Almighty Pod

983
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:45,600
I want to listen to those

984
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,280
I'm just trying to listen to my friends

985
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,480
And see what they're talking about

986
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:49,520
What they're interested in

987
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,240
And maybe see

988
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,880
You know

989
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,660
If I can help shine a light on something

990
01:15:54,660 --> 01:15:56,200
If they're doing something that I think is cool

991
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,980
That more people should be paying attention to

992
01:15:57,980 --> 01:16:03,660
so that's kind of what i've been doing you know what i was thinking guys i just uh in preparation

993
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:09,720
for this conversation i was i was thinking about podcasting obviously and it was when i was

994
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,020
listening to your podcast with odell you're talking about the work that he does with open

995
01:16:14,020 --> 01:16:19,460
sats and that kind of stuff and i was thinking it's it's great that we have all of the these

996
01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:23,080
different types of you know hrf has a fund there's a bunch of other funds right that

997
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:28,640
collect money and give it to Bitcoin developers to support the development work that they were

998
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,040
doing. I think that that's wonderful. That's great. We should be supporting open source

999
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:36,540
development on Bitcoin, Noster, eCash, all these things. We should be supporting it.

1000
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:44,560
But why isn't there one of these nonprofit funds that is allocating money to Bitcoin podcasters?

1001
01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:51,340
Why don't we have funds? Why isn't there an open pods? Why isn't there an open pods

1002
01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:54,940
that expressly supports Bitcoin podcasters

1003
01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:57,060
so that they can focus on what they do best,

1004
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,620
which is Bitcoin podcasting.

1005
01:16:58,740 --> 01:17:00,260
They don't have to worry about going around

1006
01:17:00,260 --> 01:17:01,900
and chase sponsors to pay

1007
01:17:01,900 --> 01:17:03,780
for all their expensive microphones and stuff.

1008
01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:08,260
They can just focus on bringing signal in a noisy world.

1009
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:09,920
They can focus on bringing good vibes

1010
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,680
in a world of bad vibes, right?

1011
01:17:12,180 --> 01:17:13,900
So I think, guys, what we need to do,

1012
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,240
we need to get ourselves a 501c3

1013
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,500
and we need to start raising money

1014
01:17:18,500 --> 01:17:21,020
to give to promising Bitcoin podcasts.

1015
01:17:21,340 --> 01:17:23,400
I'm throwing it out there, throwing it out there.

1016
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,820
Maybe every Bitcoin podcast should be a 501c3 itself too.

1017
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:27,340
I don't know.

1018
01:17:27,420 --> 01:17:31,740
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure ChatGPT can help me find some ways

1019
01:17:31,740 --> 01:17:32,980
to not give any money to the IRS.

1020
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:34,400
So let's see.

1021
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:38,520
I think it's an interesting idea.

1022
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,820
I think what's different is kind of the role of the podcaster

1023
01:17:43,820 --> 01:17:46,420
to go solicit people to support them, in my opinion.

1024
01:17:46,420 --> 01:17:52,440
and um you know the why this works for bitcoin development is that we know that developers

1025
01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:58,540
are super autistic and they're not very good at talking to people they're not really good at

1026
01:17:58,540 --> 01:18:03,720
convincing anybody of anything like they they walk into a sales pitch and they start talking about why

1027
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:10,580
their c++ code is better than the other guys and why they're important and starting to get into all

1028
01:18:10,580 --> 01:18:17,160
these intricate details on computer code and and the person looking at them it's just like wow this

1029
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:24,120
is like i'm ready for a nap this is like talking to dr adam back or something but um i think that

1030
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:36,220
like we have a lot of these tools for podcasters to be able to uh get funding i think it's the hard

1031
01:18:36,220 --> 01:18:42,000
part is just building the market for it and giving a compelling sales pitch like you've got geyser

1032
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:47,660
you've got which people have raised a significant amount of money on you've got fountain uh you've

1033
01:18:47,660 --> 01:18:53,180
got just the the podcasting 2.0 ecosystem in general with all these other applicants you know

1034
01:18:53,180 --> 01:19:00,380
doodads that let you receive bitcoin you've got nost or like the the tools really are there like

1035
01:19:00,380 --> 01:19:05,200
you need you need to buy a microphone you can't afford it you need a computer you can't afford it

1036
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:12,360
and go throw up a geyser fund um because it's your job to be like a salesperson you know and

1037
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:18,320
pitch the market uh so i think it's a little bit different um i mean it is an interesting idea but

1038
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:27,380
i think um like i wouldn't make fun of anybody you know if they wanted to make that i do think

1039
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:34,260
like to do the 501c3 and support bitcoin podcasters but what i do think

1040
01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:39,720
is important for individuals that have a lot of money and a lot of stake in bitcoin

1041
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:46,600
to realize the importance of bitcoin podcasts and realize the importance of this ecosystem

1042
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:56,960
like you the the mechanisms are there to to fund us um and it can be in it and in creative

1043
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,080
ways in very creative

1044
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,280
times.

1045
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,680
There's so much program.

1046
01:20:03,140 --> 01:20:05,160
There's so many opportunities. The opportunities

1047
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,760
is there's tons of them

1048
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,980
and you're

1049
01:20:08,980 --> 01:20:09,360
right.

1050
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,840
It's kind of on you to

1051
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,040
solicit and

1052
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,460
explain to people why they should

1053
01:20:16,460 --> 01:20:18,940
spend their hard-earned sacks supporting

1054
01:20:18,940 --> 01:20:20,880
your podcast. There's a lot of

1055
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,860
podcasts. Why should they support just because you

1056
01:20:22,860 --> 01:20:24,860
talk about Bitcoin? They should support your podcast.

1057
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,700
No, you've got to pitch them.

1058
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,140
or create good enough content where they,

1059
01:20:30,140 --> 01:20:33,320
you inspire them to come to you with an idea.

1060
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,420
That's kind of what you should be doing.

1061
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,320
And, you know, you could do a 501c3.

1062
01:20:38,940 --> 01:20:41,440
You could do your own, you know, cashew bin.

1063
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,920
You could do your, you know, you could,

1064
01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:47,520
everybody create your own circular economy.

1065
01:20:48,020 --> 01:20:50,480
And, you know, if it gets big enough,

1066
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,920
then go tell the government that, you know,

1067
01:20:53,180 --> 01:20:55,640
you think you try to get one of those exemptions.

1068
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,280
Maybe you try to like grandfather in the file.

1069
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,420
I don't know, but start small.

1070
01:20:59,420 --> 01:21:03,680
You don't, you don't necessarily have to go file for a tax number just to start a podcast.

1071
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:04,680
Yeah.

1072
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,820
But you know, that's what the Canadian Bitcoin guys did.

1073
01:21:06,820 --> 01:21:07,820
That's what they were telling us now.

1074
01:21:07,820 --> 01:21:24,028
They were they they did it too early and it just it too much paperwork You wait till you need to you can hire a Jewish lawyer to do the paperwork for you yeah that just common sense yeah i will say you know ron and i are very committed

1075
01:21:24,028 --> 01:21:29,348
to this ecosystem and i think you can see it because we're we're all over the podcast app and

1076
01:21:29,348 --> 01:21:37,568
we're all over nostrils app and people um and i think that's like one of the ways that you know

1077
01:21:37,568 --> 01:21:41,908
for podcasters that really care about the value for value ecosystem like part of it is being an

1078
01:21:41,908 --> 01:21:50,588
example and showing people why the ecosystem is important and how to engage in it uh because

1079
01:21:50,588 --> 01:21:58,508
you know i'm sick of plebslop and like i think the dynamic of running a value for value media

1080
01:21:58,508 --> 01:22:06,288
company is um you know your your content is the product at the end of the day instead of just uh

1081
01:22:06,288 --> 01:22:12,948
you know trying to promote uh pleb slop to get the biggest amount of views to to sell your sponsor

1082
01:22:12,948 --> 01:22:19,248
on on a higher stake and you know get conversions for you know selling product because then you just

1083
01:22:19,248 --> 01:22:28,528
become a marketing agency for uh a lot of other people's stuff um but yeah it's uh i mean there

1084
01:22:28,528 --> 01:22:34,988
there's a lot of different approaches to this and i think the cool thing is that you know people will

1085
01:22:34,988 --> 01:22:40,628
try different ideas and have success and we you know need to pay attention to where people are

1086
01:22:40,628 --> 01:22:51,068
being successful uh the like appreciate innovation appreciate taking risks try new things uh and uh

1087
01:22:51,068 --> 01:22:59,748
you know kind of adapt to those areas of success but the you know the value for value ecosystem

1088
01:22:59,748 --> 01:23:10,088
isn't new there's a lot of people that uh um yeah but anyways yeah let's get to the fountain

1089
01:23:10,088 --> 01:23:15,968
boost i think we're all kind of approaching this hard stop really quick uh i wanted to blast or we

1090
01:23:15,968 --> 01:23:24,648
did get some zaps on uh zap stream we got uh avi burra says uh rare to be on a live stream with

1091
01:23:24,648 --> 01:23:31,208
three ai generated voices uh that's a callback that's a callback right there that's that's great

1092
01:23:31,208 --> 01:23:38,788
yeah sovereign zapped i was on uh brain and carpalus's podcast recently uh thank you sovereign

1093
01:23:38,788 --> 01:23:49,108
walker you zapped it's a tick coin forever od 40 hpw zapped 210 sats sazal zapped 2100 sats

1094
01:23:49,108 --> 01:23:59,748
said miller light eric can't meme zapped 6969 sat said i'm retarded eric he's the man

1095
01:23:59,748 --> 01:24:08,728
yeah we i had a whole like text conversation uh in the chat with uh eric he's got some humility

1096
01:24:08,728 --> 01:24:16,308
if you're retarded just admit it it's uh it's it's a great spot to be in um but yeah our last

1097
01:24:16,308 --> 01:24:23,528
show that we did was with one of my favorite uh podcasters david bennett this guy has been at it

1098
01:24:23,528 --> 01:24:31,028
for a long time since 2018 uh i thought it was great conversation talking about a lot of similar

1099
01:24:31,028 --> 01:24:37,428
stuff that we talked about today about the value for value ecosystem uh nostor all sorts of stuff

1100
01:24:37,428 --> 01:24:43,108
uh anybody listening i'd highly encourage you to go check out his show bitcoin and

1101
01:24:43,108 --> 01:24:51,428
it's a it's a great bitcoin news show uh no pleb slop associated uh but our first boost is

1102
01:24:51,428 --> 01:24:58,848
fundamentals for 10 101 sats is another excellent behind the podcast great run of pioneers uh

1103
01:24:58,848 --> 01:25:06,268
yeah are you familiar with uh fundamentals walker i i don't know if i am

1104
01:25:06,268 --> 01:25:12,248
maybe i've been a gotta see if i follow him on noster

1105
01:25:13,108 --> 01:25:19,788
yeah he's on there he uh he wrote the book uh bitcoin for institutions so he's essentially

1106
01:25:19,788 --> 01:25:26,808
trying to teach people how to paper bitcoin uh responsibly you're a tyler you know he left the

1107
01:25:26,808 --> 01:25:35,468
uh you know the high-flying finance world new york city life uh to he has five podcasts now

1108
01:25:35,468 --> 01:25:42,668
so he's got the back on the chain podcast rock paper bitcoin he's got a math where he teaches

1109
01:25:42,668 --> 01:25:44,188
It's like a podcast for you.

1110
01:25:44,308 --> 01:25:45,888
I like lectures for mathematics.

1111
01:25:46,208 --> 01:25:48,248
He's got the Fundamentals of Fundamentals podcast.

1112
01:25:49,388 --> 01:25:50,108
I know him.

1113
01:25:50,268 --> 01:25:53,228
He does sound coffee with Otis Bittmeier.

1114
01:25:54,928 --> 01:25:57,388
So, yeah, active podcaster.

1115
01:25:57,768 --> 01:25:59,088
He's always podcasting.

1116
01:26:00,088 --> 01:26:01,748
He's got a lot of interesting thoughts.

1117
01:26:01,748 --> 01:26:04,768
But, yeah, thank you, Fundamentals, for those 10,000 saps.

1118
01:26:07,468 --> 01:26:08,888
I just followed him on Noster.

1119
01:26:08,888 --> 01:26:13,168
He wasn't following me yet, though, so I don't feel as bad about not being aware.

1120
01:26:13,468 --> 01:26:14,488
So that's good.

1121
01:26:17,148 --> 01:26:20,068
The next one is from a late stage hodl.

1122
01:26:20,728 --> 01:26:22,888
Big supporter, 5,000 stats.

1123
01:26:23,228 --> 01:26:25,988
This episode was full of excellent quotes from David.

1124
01:26:26,448 --> 01:26:29,068
First of all, I want to address that he accidentally said Bitcaster,

1125
01:26:29,488 --> 01:26:34,148
which is something I was thinking about lately instead of saying Bitcoin podcaster.

1126
01:26:34,148 --> 01:26:39,508
Imagine how many extra bitcasts you can squeeze in during your 40 hours per week.

1127
01:26:40,028 --> 01:26:43,748
You didn't have to say the full Bitcoin podcaster term.

1128
01:26:44,808 --> 01:26:48,888
Another quote, I wake up and look at Twitter and I'm in a bad mood.

1129
01:26:49,028 --> 01:26:50,568
Wake up at an Oscar, I'm neutral.

1130
01:26:51,608 --> 01:26:52,528
This quote was the best.

1131
01:26:52,668 --> 01:26:57,368
If the first thing you see in the morning is penis, daughter, nothing, birder announcements,

1132
01:26:58,328 --> 01:27:00,528
then you become the nothing birder.

1133
01:27:00,528 --> 01:27:10,848
these are great these are great uh ideas late stage huddle uh i don't i i understand the logic

1134
01:27:10,848 --> 01:27:17,648
of bitcaster over bitcoin podcaster but there's something about the vibe that i just i i could be

1135
01:27:17,648 --> 01:27:23,428
wrong i just don't feel it right now but i do like where you're at with the uh with the trying

1136
01:27:23,428 --> 01:27:40,216
to be more efficient with our language so we can get more signal into our bitcoin podcast um wink I was kind of making a joke when i right when i remarked on the the nostril thing and the way it makes you feel but i starting to think you right i thought it

1137
01:27:40,216 --> 01:27:44,816
was just a bad marketing tagline to go like you feel nothing when you log on to an oster that's

1138
01:27:44,816 --> 01:27:49,436
the way it should be but that is the way it should be you shouldn't you should get your you should get

1139
01:27:49,436 --> 01:27:56,196
your your vibes from your coffee or your you know whatever the sunlight walk not from turning on your

1140
01:27:56,196 --> 01:28:04,236
phone in the morning right um yeah they say i will agree thanks you know but caster just feels

1141
01:28:04,236 --> 01:28:09,676
like trying to rebrand uh sats to bits to me maybe that one could be workshopped a little bit but

1142
01:28:09,676 --> 01:28:14,476
i feel like bitcoin podcasters it's a steam position it's important

1143
01:28:14,476 --> 01:28:23,516
yeah some some words are worth saying the full word you know it's worth it it commands the

1144
01:28:23,516 --> 01:28:29,016
respect yeah totally do you ever do you ever hang out with the people that boost your podcast walker

1145
01:28:29,016 --> 01:28:36,896
uh yeah actually like i mean at bitcoin at bitcoin conferences like there's i've had

1146
01:28:36,896 --> 01:28:43,296
like a shocking amount of people support the the show and one of the honestly the coolest things

1147
01:28:43,296 --> 01:28:48,656
about starting a bitcoin podcast is going to bitcoin conferences having random people come

1148
01:28:48,656 --> 01:28:52,816
up to you that you then like have a beer with or you know hang out with for a while that are like

1149
01:28:52,816 --> 01:28:54,496
hey, I really like your podcast.

1150
01:28:54,496 --> 01:28:56,836
Like, man, as a Bitcoin podcaster,

1151
01:28:57,396 --> 01:28:58,956
that's the only thing you want to hear.

1152
01:28:59,156 --> 01:29:00,356
Like, that's literally it.

1153
01:29:00,416 --> 01:29:01,256
You just want to hear somebody like,

1154
01:29:01,316 --> 01:29:03,156
hey, I really like your podcast.

1155
01:29:03,276 --> 01:29:04,056
I found it valuable.

1156
01:29:04,216 --> 01:29:06,156
I sent you a Zap on Fountain or a Zap on Noster.

1157
01:29:06,296 --> 01:29:10,136
Like, that's all you could ever ask for

1158
01:29:10,136 --> 01:29:11,336
as a Bitcoin podcaster.

1159
01:29:11,516 --> 01:29:14,256
So yeah, it's very humbling too.

1160
01:29:14,356 --> 01:29:16,436
It's like, wow, here's somebody in the flesh

1161
01:29:16,436 --> 01:29:18,356
who's giving me some of their 40 hours per week.

1162
01:29:19,036 --> 01:29:20,456
Let's go ahead and have a beer together.

1163
01:29:20,456 --> 01:29:25,416
like that's just a it's a it's a cool experience when you can do it in the in the meat space right

1164
01:29:25,416 --> 01:29:33,176
totally yeah i think it's uh it's important to hang out with your boosters it's important to uh

1165
01:29:33,176 --> 01:29:40,096
hang out with them in the group chats uh stuff like that i think is uh it's just excellent like

1166
01:29:40,096 --> 01:29:44,976
i love hanging out with these guys uh i think i've talked to most of these boosters even today

1167
01:29:44,976 --> 01:29:50,856
so far or actually i haven't talked to late stage today yet but talk to fundamentals and uh this

1168
01:29:50,856 --> 01:29:56,636
next one two angry cunts um i gotta start a group chat for my podcast i guess that's i'm kind of

1169
01:29:56,636 --> 01:30:05,216
behind in that regard i suppose yeah guy swan did this a long time ago i used to uh be a subscriber

1170
01:30:05,216 --> 01:30:12,096
to him and uh the audio not that was a good group chat on telegram i think it's a

1171
01:30:12,096 --> 01:30:21,416
yeah it's a good time you concoct memes together with your listeners um two angry cunts podcast

1172
01:30:21,416 --> 01:30:29,716
2220 sats truth is like the sun you can shut it out for a time but it ain't going away

1173
01:30:29,716 --> 01:30:36,696
elvis presley an honest conversation without risk of catching syphilis well done fellas

1174
01:30:36,696 --> 01:30:43,736
and remember what elvis said uh you know elvis

1175
01:30:43,736 --> 01:30:50,056
was an incredible singer he's like one of the best singers of all time

1176
01:30:50,056 --> 01:30:55,896
super underrated in my opinion like a lot of people like elvis but i don't think they uh

1177
01:30:55,896 --> 01:30:58,876
fully appreciate how good he is you ever listen to elvis

1178
01:30:58,876 --> 01:31:09,716
of course he's the king right but you're right gone too soon also you know too many too many such

1179
01:31:09,716 --> 01:31:16,756
cases i think that's part of what makes him so good though is you know these people die before

1180
01:31:16,756 --> 01:31:22,576
they get old and uh and lose their skill sets like there's a problem a lot of singers try to

1181
01:31:22,576 --> 01:31:31,056
go for too long uh well this died on throne he died on the toilet then that i don't i it god forbid

1182
01:31:31,056 --> 01:31:36,116
but you know i guess the worst thing for me would not be going out on the podcast chair in the

1183
01:31:36,116 --> 01:31:44,296
podcast studio amen um the lesson was from daniel daniel's uh he's big over on nostri he uh he

1184
01:31:44,296 --> 01:31:50,216
helped us out with satirize the system and uh and then he's at the conference i did to see him in

1185
01:31:50,216 --> 01:31:56,216
boost uh really getting the conversation especially the part about how noscar is good for your mental

1186
01:31:56,216 --> 01:32:05,256
health there you go people resonated with that one i wonder if people's mental health on twitter's

1187
01:32:05,256 --> 01:32:09,016
gonna get better now that the government shut down the feds might not be working

1188
01:32:10,696 --> 01:32:14,376
let's hope so i hope they stay shut down for as long as possible

1189
01:32:14,376 --> 01:32:21,716
yeah i hope so too those guys suck

1190
01:32:21,716 --> 01:32:30,796
rev huddle yeah fuck rev huddle uh or wait yeah daniel's a good guy he's a good follow on

1191
01:32:30,796 --> 01:32:39,536
he's a he's a he's very active on noster for sure uh rev huddle 721 sats bitcoin and

1192
01:32:39,536 --> 01:32:46,056
and is how i stay in the loop essential listening for the 40 hpw yeah i think the thing that i like

1193
01:32:46,056 --> 01:32:52,436
about bitcoin and is it has a little bit more emphasis on permaculture and agriculture so it's

1194
01:32:52,436 --> 01:32:57,156
got a you hear about topics that are kind of important like the food supply is pretty important

1195
01:32:57,156 --> 01:33:03,136
but you don't hear that discussed on a lot of bitcoin podcasts uh you hear about the feds

1196
01:33:03,136 --> 01:33:07,816
with all the ranchers and you know killing all the chickens or you know whatever they're up to

1197
01:33:07,816 --> 01:33:09,036
all the nonsense.

1198
01:33:12,776 --> 01:33:14,696
Next one is from Shadrack.

1199
01:33:15,636 --> 01:33:16,736
Long time fan.

1200
01:33:16,976 --> 01:33:19,016
They don't expect us to get them back and save

1201
01:33:19,016 --> 01:33:20,376
as many as we can.

1202
01:33:20,576 --> 01:33:22,396
That's exactly how pioneers win.

1203
01:33:22,636 --> 01:33:24,696
Hashtag 40 hours per week.

1204
01:33:25,296 --> 01:33:26,816
And yes, Shadrack is a

1205
01:33:26,816 --> 01:33:29,356
notable pioneer for sure.

1206
01:33:32,676 --> 01:33:33,236
Yeah.

1207
01:33:34,936 --> 01:33:36,296
Big fan of Shadrack.

1208
01:33:37,816 --> 01:33:38,736
God's death.

1209
01:33:39,616 --> 01:33:41,336
237 sat says, thank you, gentlemen.

1210
01:33:41,616 --> 01:33:42,616
Well, thank you, God's death.

1211
01:33:43,136 --> 01:34:02,144
You probably know this next one Pies Pies Got two from Pies 121 sat each First one i see so many people once held fond opinions of his fuck boy clowns now oh his people he used to really respect he sees them as fuck boy clowns

1212
01:34:02,144 --> 01:34:08,964
now hashtag pioneers hashtag 30 hours per week bitcoin flex emoji mushroom emoji the next one

1213
01:34:08,964 --> 01:34:14,984
pre-listen boost there we go we need to get some uh like some pre-workout but it's like a drink it's

1214
01:34:14,984 --> 01:34:21,364
like a pre-podcast a pre-boost uh a few of my favorite bitcoin podcasters in one show let's

1215
01:34:21,364 --> 01:34:32,084
fucking go hashtag 40 hours per week yeah i mean that's an interesting one i i don't know what i

1216
01:34:32,084 --> 01:34:37,644
think of the the pre-boost or pre-show listening boost i feel like that's tipping your waitress

1217
01:34:37,644 --> 01:34:44,304
before you get the food you know what i mean it could go or like tipping your bartender before

1218
01:34:44,304 --> 01:34:49,504
you know a night at a wedding or something like i always tip bartenders before i get drinks if i'm

1219
01:34:49,504 --> 01:34:54,064
like if it's a wedding situation even if it's an open bar because it's like hey just want you to

1220
01:34:54,064 --> 01:34:59,104
know i appreciate you i've been a bartender many years in my life and uh i also want you to bring

1221
01:34:59,104 --> 01:35:03,664
me drinks very fast when i come up here and ignore any of the fat uncles that are going to try and

1222
01:35:03,664 --> 01:35:07,824
you know sit and wait in the line there so i support the pre-boost just throwing it out there

1223
01:35:07,824 --> 01:35:14,084
all right i think he convinced me with that argument good good that's that's an interesting

1224
01:35:14,084 --> 01:35:19,364
life hack that's uh it works every time oh yeah

1225
01:35:19,364 --> 01:35:30,164
south side dave uh 100 sats says a pioneer of culture nazis and courtards having sex fixes this

1226
01:35:30,164 --> 01:35:40,804
check can't argue with that last one is army and btc on board 100 sats three thumbs up

1227
01:35:40,804 --> 01:35:43,204
for why'd you like the content bro

1228
01:35:43,204 --> 01:35:52,624
yeah well i'm feeling optimistic uh

1229
01:35:52,624 --> 01:36:01,324
but you know i i think the the the key thing that you talked about here on this show

1230
01:36:01,324 --> 01:36:08,844
was just not really caring a whole lot about what the peanut gallery thinks and having a few people

1231
01:36:08,844 --> 01:36:13,484
in your life that you care about i think that's some of the the best advice anybody could ever

1232
01:36:13,484 --> 01:36:20,824
give anybody in this world that we live in those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't

1233
01:36:20,824 --> 01:36:30,804
mind it's it will get it will help you uh see things more clearly totally well walker i really

1234
01:36:30,804 --> 01:36:35,564
appreciate you coming on i also really appreciate you having us on that was a blast that was great

1235
01:36:35,564 --> 01:36:40,264
let's do it again guys we need more bitcoin podcast crossover episodes we really do

1236
01:36:40,264 --> 01:36:51,904
i agree it's um i mean it's kind of what like those uh like the the rogan cabal did

1237
01:36:51,904 --> 01:36:59,124
he created his little uh his little clique of podcasters i mean they're all lame they all suck

1238
01:36:59,124 --> 01:37:05,024
alex jones i was watching alex jones last night man that guy sucks so hard

1239
01:37:05,564 --> 01:37:14,744
um you know trump's about to stop start a global war escalated in order to save the world from the

1240
01:37:14,744 --> 01:37:19,144
globalists apparently that's where alex jones is at and all the surveillance and stuff he's

1241
01:37:19,144 --> 01:37:27,384
warning about but yeah um so rod needs to run uh rod you got any closing thoughts before we sign

1242
01:37:27,384 --> 01:37:34,424
off now team the great lives revival let's go bring it back for october

1243
01:37:34,424 --> 01:37:35,864
Talk to you guys later

1244
01:37:35,864 --> 01:37:37,764
See you guys

1245
01:37:37,764 --> 01:37:40,664
Broccoli, broccoli flow

1246
01:37:40,664 --> 01:37:48,364
Yeah, I'm swerving with the broccoli flows

1247
01:37:48,364 --> 01:37:51,124
Laser eyes tired, let the paradigm go

1248
01:37:51,124 --> 01:37:53,944
Clebs in the pits still screaming like a show

1249
01:37:53,944 --> 01:37:56,784
But we want the E-Cash future, let the new wave grow

1250
01:37:56,784 --> 01:38:00,044
I don't vibe with your Twitter wars

1251
01:38:00,044 --> 01:38:02,864
Old heads mad cause they guarding doors

1252
01:38:02,864 --> 01:38:05,744
They keep memes like it's 2014

1253
01:38:05,744 --> 01:38:08,764
But my gen running knows on the touch screen

1254
01:38:08,764 --> 01:38:11,684
Got boomers stacking, flexing on price

1255
01:38:11,684 --> 01:38:14,504
Gen X arguing if court feels nice

1256
01:38:14,504 --> 01:38:17,344
Millennials stuck in podcast loops

1257
01:38:17,344 --> 01:38:20,124
While I'm ghosting all the maxi truths

1258
01:38:20,124 --> 01:38:22,944
Poof gone, Rodley flows, young leaf in the sun

1259
01:38:22,944 --> 01:38:26,124
Boomerants dry, but do you stay running up?

1260
01:38:26,124 --> 01:38:28,624
No laser coat, no play-up club dudes

1261
01:38:28,624 --> 01:38:31,484
The centralized dreams and the favorite we choose

1262
01:38:31,484 --> 01:38:33,884
I'm not your profit, not your pep pleb

1263
01:38:33,884 --> 01:38:36,684
I'm just tryna spend bars out of cold web

1264
01:38:36,684 --> 01:38:39,584
Ice, paper hands, nah, I'm me cash clean

1265
01:38:39,584 --> 01:38:42,444
Peer-to-peer vibe with a Gen Z sheen

1266
01:38:42,444 --> 01:38:44,844
Forget the merch drops, plebium, nitty chance

1267
01:38:44,844 --> 01:38:48,044
We in Discord, cooking new finance

1268
01:38:48,044 --> 01:38:50,744
Memo coins died, but the hunger grew

1269
01:38:50,744 --> 01:38:54,024
So I'm printing broccoli on the culture too green

1270
01:38:54,024 --> 01:38:56,364
Old cult's bitter like burnt-out coke

1271
01:38:56,364 --> 01:38:59,284
We vibing lighter on a brand new note

1272
01:38:59,284 --> 01:38:59,744
Shry and shine.

1273
01:38:59,744 --> 01:39:00,524
Grumpy podcast.

1274
01:39:00,764 --> 01:39:02,184
Tryna tell us how to live.

1275
01:39:02,264 --> 01:39:03,604
But we got break and reach.

1276
01:39:03,644 --> 01:39:04,684
And it's new in it.

1277
01:39:05,004 --> 01:39:07,844
Gift, gift, gift, gift, gift, gift, gift, gift.

1278
01:39:08,144 --> 01:39:10,144
Young swervin' with the broccoli flow.

1279
01:39:10,544 --> 01:39:11,604
Laser eyes are tired.

1280
01:39:11,724 --> 01:39:12,964
Let the paradigm go.

1281
01:39:13,464 --> 01:39:14,424
Fletters in the pit.

1282
01:39:14,504 --> 01:39:15,824
Still screamin' like a show.

1283
01:39:15,964 --> 01:39:16,664
But we want that.

1284
01:39:16,724 --> 01:39:17,244
You got future.

1285
01:39:17,364 --> 01:39:18,704
Let the new wave grow.

1286
01:39:19,764 --> 01:39:22,324
Green on my head like the cash in my hand.

1287
01:39:22,604 --> 01:39:23,604
Future look bright.

1288
01:39:23,724 --> 01:39:25,324
I don't follow your brand.

1289
01:39:25,564 --> 01:39:26,684
Boomers, Gen X.

1290
01:39:26,904 --> 01:39:27,984
Millies all froze.

1291
01:39:27,984 --> 01:39:32,924
I'm in cash, yellow with the broccoli flows, yeah

1292
01:39:32,924 --> 01:39:38,644
Rock the East, rock the East, rock the East, rock the East, yeah

1293
01:39:38,644 --> 01:39:44,944
Green on my head, the cash in my hand

1294
01:39:44,944 --> 01:39:50,884
Future look bright, I don't follow your brand

1295
01:39:50,884 --> 01:39:55,644
Boomers, Gen X, Millies, y'all froze

1296
01:39:55,644 --> 01:39:58,704
I'm a cash seller with the Fragley Flows, yeah

1297
01:39:58,704 --> 01:40:02,424
Fragley, Fragley, Fragley Flows
