Last night, the Lord gave me a dream of hope and of revival.
The Lord showed me a town that was demoralized.
The people were tired and the buildings were dilapidated.
Once a vibrant city shining on a hill,
the economy had crumbled when the coal mine that employed the townspeople had shut down,
causing many people to lose their jobs.
The situation seemed hopeless as a place once full of vibrant culture
fell into squalor and the people struggled to pay their taxes.
But then a new industry came to town, as well as a musician.
The industry brought life and the musician brought good vibes.
All of a sudden, a town that was gasping its last breaths was invigorated.
People that were tired and giving up hope began to feel connection and jump with joy.
I know that times are hard out there right now, but Jesus' message is how you can change the world with good vibes.
The Lord commands you to lift your vibes high.
He came into the world when the vibes were low, when the people felt like they had no hope.
On the day he was crucified, even his followers had bad vibes.
But Jesus conquered bad vibes once and for all so that we can conquer them ourselves.
I know it's hard out there. There is war on the horizon.
People are arguing about relay policy.
Many faithful are losing hope that President Trump will pump our meme coins
and usher in the God candle.
But church, you do not need to wait for the God candle to have good vibes.
Let us reject the temptation to be grumpy.
The world needs a good vibes revival, so let us start here today on the first day of October.
Now, church, let's sing and usher the good vibe revival into this world here and now.
You found me when my vibes were low.
You picked me up and healed my soul.
We sit and wait for your arrival.
But while we wait, let's have a good vibes revival.
Oh, oh, oh.
The good vibes revival.
Summer is over.
It's officially October.
The season of dressing up in costumes to celebrate green candles and slurp down pumpkin spice
plebslot.
But sooner 2024, best known for being Paper Bitcoin Summer, was all about vibes.
Nobody understands Vibes better than the capitalist Bitcoin pioneers
Who branded them, monetized them, and sold them at Vibes Capital Management
Influencers, suitcoiners, and podcasters headlined
Paper Bitcoin Summer, draped in the hottest Vibes
Vibes Capital Management was at one time growing faster
Than Flutterner's Paper Bitcoin Mute List on Twitter
And then the rainy weather washed out the summer
and the vibes seem to dampen.
There's no better time for a great vibes revival in October.
All-time highs in USDT and vibes are just a few sailor pumps away
and we're here with Walker from the Take One podcast
to talk about the return of the vibes bull market.
Feels like, uh, we just did this yesterday, Walker.
How's it going?
It's going great.
It's nice to be on the other side of the microphone with you guys,
even though I guess we're all still on the same side of the microphone.
So.
That's right.
And if you don't know what he's talking about,
we were just on his podcast, the Tick Point podcast.
Last week, it came out Monday, though.
Fantastic.
We talked about the Plex.
We already got into the pumpkin spice.
And we didn't talk too much about the Vibes.
We just talked about the strength of the Vibes in the Vibes group chat.
How's everybody feeling?
How was the paper Bitcoin summer?
How was everybody's paper Bitcoin summer over at Vibes?
Well, I think some people's paper Bitcoin summers were better than others.
You know, it's funny because everybody assumes that like if you're a podcaster,
if you're a Bitcoin podcaster, you must have been let in on like all of these pipe deals.
I didn't even know what a pipe deal was. I thought a pipe deal was something totally different.
And I had to Google it and be like, okay, better go in a secure browser for this.
Apparently, it's not what I thought it was. But you know, as a podcaster, people just assume you
get invited to these things. And the reality is that you don't. And people assume that people make
a lot of assumptions about podcasters. And really at the end of the day, it's like, boy, it's a
slog out here to be a podcaster. Not only do you have to struggle to try and find a sponsor
to try and get invited to these pipe deals, but you usually fail at both. I didn't really try to
get invited to any pipe deals. I just wasn't. I thought that my card carrying pod comp approved
status would allow me to get access to these paper Bitcoin deals. It didn't. So I mean,
personally i don't know what i'm paying dues for at this point to podconf it's just a little
confusing totally a lot of people have been wondering what whatever happened to vibes
capital i know we discussed this it sounds like vibes capital still thing the social presence has
uh fallen off um what it seems like is vibes capital was kind of like the minor leagues getting
people that were really talented and skilled prepared for the big time uh working for a paper
Bitcoin companies so you know famously Lovka you know one of the biggest members of Vibes Capital
went and started working for NACA and kind of used that as his launch. Do you have plans
yourself to be a podcaster for a paper Bitcoin company or are you happy and satisfied with your
role at Vibes Capital? You know I'm pretty happy to be just to be just selling vibes you know
because you can't sell paper vibes, right?
The vibes have to be the original bearer instrument.
And I think that's a powerful thing.
So for me, it's like, am I looking for a podcaster in chief role
at one of these paper Bitcoin companies?
I am not.
I like to be a free agent, to be honest with you.
I wouldn't want to sell out the Titcoin brand, right?
And I know that probably if one of these companies did end up approaching me,
you know what the first thing they do is?
They'd say, we like the show, but you got to take the tit coin part out.
And I think there's just fundamentally, there's a lot of anti-tit hate out there,
which is strange.
It's strange.
I've actually, I've lost out on sponsorships because of this,
because they were like, you're just a bit too edgy, and you got tit in the name.
And I'm like, good.
You know what that name is there for?
First of all, it's hilarious.
Duh.
Second, it's a filter.
Because if you can't take a good tit pun about Bitcoin, then what are we even doing here?
What are we even like?
My wife came up with tit coin.
And you know what she has?
Tits.
So don't come here and try to moralize to me about how having tit in the name of your podcast and your podcast handle is somehow inappropriate.
What I think is inappropriate is really just denigrating the role that tits have played in all of our lives.
Because you know what?
everybody either loves tits has tits or grew up sucking on tits name someone who didn't
or doesn't you know and that's what i'd like to say i don't think matthew cratter likes tits
pretty much you know it's also no comment it's also it also it's also making a statement right
like if you have a controversial podcast where you talk about tits um
It makes a statement for the hardware wallet to say
If you don't like Tits, we don't want you to use our hardware wallet
And it's like, dude, that's the hardware wallet that supports Tits
That's a differentiator, you know what I mean?
People don just care about the open source Or how you put together your hardware wallet If it air down They care about the community and they want to they want to transact adversarially
with people who are not afraid of tips.
Everybody always says we need more women in Bitcoin, right?
Well, you know what women have, guys?
They have tits.
So, you know, at least unless you're one of those, you know, those Looney Tunes who thinks
that men can, I'm sure men can have man boobs, but, but not tits. Like let's leave the tits for
the women. Let's, let's try not to, to male feminize our way out of women being the ones
that have tits and let's support that. And if we want more women in Bitcoin, we need to be more
tit inclusive, not tit exclusive. I think it's also, you know, it is coincidental. Usually the
guys who are the most uh critical about tits and bitcoin are the guys who have the biggest tits in
bitcoin they just don't want the competition for the big tits and bitcoin like some feeling selling
you know i love him jw weatherman he's very anti-tit but he's also the big he's like the
biggest boob in bitcoin so it's just kind of hypocritical and it's it's it's sad to see when
people have this and it's like i i don't know what happened during your early childhood development
or or what uh you know what woman hurt you at some point but like it'll be okay bud just just
go touch some grass and just remember tits are a nurturing thing right they're they're givers of
life let's not you know let's not chase them away let's embrace them yeah i mean for these companies
that aren't sponsoring you for that it seems like a tactical mistake because look at sydney sweeney
and how her tits came onto the scene maybe they just don't want to be associated with being
fascist like boobs are fascist now or at least nice ones are but who knows yeah yeah i think
that's the key they have to be nice to be fascist like nobody is saying that uh you know the uh the
ozempic needing uh you know blue-haired tits are are somehow fascist like those are obviously
communist tits i think yeah well we can all we all know a communist tit when we see one you know
what i mean like greg foss tits are communist hits for sure i don't know about that but i do
love old old fossey i i miss his energy you know i miss i miss his unbridled energy uh and and his
love of bitcoin we we need more of that energy just pure less of the you know whiny little bitch
energy and more just like go fuck yourself energy whether whether who cares where those go fuck
yourselves are flying just let the gfys fly and let the sats flow yeah you know i'll say this about
faucet but what the way i tell people you know if they're being critical or they're nagging me about
something i say i don't care about your opinion on this matter if you haven't listened to 40 hours
a bitcoin podcast per week you're just not at my level it's like same with gray he's like if you
haven't sat in the risk chair i don't want to hear it and you know holby comes back and issue
brag no we had some tough investments but that's what happens when you sit in the risk chair
and it's like the man in the arena it's like the man in the studio
you either sit in the risk chair or you sit in the cuck chair which one do you want exactly and
you know coincidentally yesterday uh the secretary of war pete hexa he told america's generals
you don't have no more man tits in the army no more non-binary green green beret army rangers
it is we're going back to a certain you know you gotta have some orders and discipline some
you gotta look hot and we gotta focus on hot tits that's what we gotta focus on yeah i agree and i
thought that was hilarious too like basically just being like you guys gotta stop being quit being so
fat you know like and and and we really should like you you're gonna go into the fourth turning
as just a fat lard what what like no no that's not a fourth turning body that's i or maybe it is
actually but like you're not the one coming out the other side of that turning you know what i
mean not not with those man boobs that's for sure so one thing one thing i want to know about you uh
you started podcasting i believe in 2023 so right around a similar time that uh bugle launched
uh i don't have an exact date on when you started but uh what what were your motivations to get into
podcasting you you came in during a bear market and uh the vibes were you know relatively low
some podcasters from the last cycle that were really notorious dropped off
and you really, you know, stepped into the void
and became a relatively big podcaster with an influential voice in the ecosystem.
What was your inspiration to start podcasting about Bitcoin?
Well, I guess it was like the reason for doing it
was because we stopped, my smoking hot wife and I,
stopped making short form content for which we were primarily known
when she got pregnant or a couple months into her being pregnant.
She's the one who did all the cool editing stuff,
the final cuts and all those things.
And she was the one who did the singing.
Like I was just the face, just a little bit of the voice
and helping with the script writing.
And so she was doing the lion's share of the work.
And she was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
I'm pregnant.
Like I'm done doing stuff.
And I was like, I fully support that.
And so what is a man to do?
What is a man to do to be able to step into his new role as not just a husband, but as
a father to prepare for that?
And what kind of example do you want to set for your future child, for your future son?
Well, what better example to set than to be a Bitcoin podcaster, really?
And so that's exactly what I did.
I just started making Bitcoin podcasts.
I think it was around August, 2023.
And, you know, like you guys know this,
that it's a slog at first trying to get people to, you know,
I didn't even start publishing video at first.
I was just doing the RSS feed.
Cause I was like, it's a podcast.
Like it's not supposed to have video.
Like, and then I, apparently I never watched podcasts
on YouTube, like at all.
I thought I was like kind of lame.
I would just listen to them.
You know, that's how I get my 40 hours per week, audio only.
And I just assumed most people did that.
It turns out most people watch video, which is kind of like shocking.
So I was like, well, I better start doing these as video and did that.
But it's a slog to grow these channels, to grow these streams.
But for me, the goal was always create the podcast I want to listen to myself.
create one that I think has the elements that, uh, combining the elements that are currently
in disparate areas. So I, I wanted the American, you know, to create the American version of a,
you know, Peter Batman McCormick podcast, uh, where, you know, it's just a, it's a lot of
shit talking and it's, uh, everyone's having a good time and it's casual and relaxed.
Cause that's how I like to have conversations. Not like that Lex Friedman style of like,
when did you first realize your mother didn't love you and how did that lead to your career in
b2b sales like no fuck that shit and but i also wanted i wanted to do reads of stuff because like
i love guy swan's podcast it's a great bitcoin podcast bitcoin audible it's killer like he fills
an incredible niche there but i didn't want to read just strictly bitcoin stuff i wanted to read
Austrian economic stuff. And so I started doing that as well. And I was like, well,
I also want to get some news in here because like, that's what I want as well. So I was like,
well, I should just do like a, you know, a news roundup as well. So I was doing that. And I was,
but I started with just the news roundup and the, uh, and the out loud reads
stopped doing the news roundup. I've done a few of them in recent times, but honestly,
it's a ton of work to pull together all that news to aggregate it. And so then it started
leaning more heavily into just the long form interview stuff. But ultimately the goal was
create the podcast that I want to listen to and bring value to my fellow plebs. I have a fiat job
still. I would continue Bitcoin podcasting if I never made another dime on it. I think I said this
to you guys in our last conversation, like I don't have sponsors right now. I have been in between
sponsors for a while, except for Bitbox. Shout out to them. They sponsored me very early on
And have stuck with me, but they just do like a couple episodes a month and I publish a lot of episodes
And so like just been trying to do value for value episodes recently and we can talk about that a little bit because value for values
a
It's an interesting game
Like I would never actually be able to pay the bills with value for value at least not right now and probably not for a long time But maybe someday but yeah as a Bitcoin podcaster I rambling here So feel free to cut me off So one of the things we ought to talk about is this you know
importance of Bitcoin podcast.
And one of the terms we use is getting enough entropy.
So, you know, you need to listen to macro podcasts.
You need to listen to privacy podcasts.
You need to listen to technical podcasts.
You need to listen to, you know, pick your category, astrology even.
They've got podcasts, Bitcoin podcasts with astrology.
And you've got enough entropy and you're really condensing the value of the signal you're getting.
And it's like you can create your own private keys.
All you need is enough entropy.
And it's just a blank slate.
You can accumulate so much value that is controlled by those private keys.
So when you create a podcast, you are having to go out and listen to 40 hours per week with all this entropy so you can create a unique perspective, a unique experience, a unique format for your podcast so you can provide real authentic value.
And we talk about this all the time, but you just explained it like totally normally, like we're using all these crazy memes.
And you just explained your journey of and the importance of listening to podcasts.
and the sanctity and the weight and the decision to make a podcast.
It's like a new father.
You put it all right there into one good example.
And that's what we're always talking about.
We need more good examples.
Bitcoin podcasters are good examples.
And we're also good.
I think that we are good punching bags.
That's another thing as a Bitcoin podcaster.
You need to realize that part of your role is for people to hate you when arguments start of a technical nature and they can't actually engage with the technical argument.
So then they need to find the non-technical person who is very vocal and talks a lot, has a deep rumbling voice, incredible hair and a smoking hot wife.
and you need to attack that guy.
Or you need to attack the guys who are full anon,
such as yourselves, because you're Bitcoin podcasters too.
You put a target on your back as a Bitcoin podcaster
where when the going gets tough,
everybody points their finger at the Bitcoin podcaster
and says, it's your fault.
And honestly, I love it though,
because it's great if as Bitcoin podcasters,
we can provide that cover for the builders
who are doing the real work, right?
It's like cypherpunks write code.
Bitcoin podcasters get called retard all the time so that cypherpunks can write code.
And I think that that symbiotic relationship is so important.
And that's why, again, we need more Bitcoin podcasters because we need more Bitcoin developers.
But to have more Bitcoin developers, you need more Bitcoin podcasters providing that cover for them, really.
You know, like we're all in the foxhole together.
Like we got to lay down that suppressing fire in the form of podcasts.
Totally.
I mean, one of the things that I think is hampering the scaling of Bitcoin podcasts is lack of controversy.
Like a lot of people are arguing about the same things that people have been arguing for a long time.
Recycled arguments over and over again.
We need a whole new set of arguments.
are you in favor of any contentious bitcoin code changes in order to or or just general purity test
being entered into the the conversation to have a higher demand for more podcasts so people to argue
about things i i'm always uh i'm always advocating for more just uh just more outrage i guess we need
to make sure that Bitcoiners stay outraged. What I would like to see ideally is more outrage
directed externally. Like we're getting rat fucked by the central bankers and the fiat politicians.
And instead of being like, Hey, quit rat fucking us, you rat fuckers. Like we're going to, we're
going to donkey fuck you right back. We're busy rat fucking each other here in the Bitcoin ecosystem.
And I just think most of that is a, is a colossal waste of time. So I'm all about the controversy,
But I'd like to see the ire that is brewing amongst Bitcoiners.
I'd like to see more of that directed externally at the existential threats to Bitcoin.
You know what I mean?
I agree with you in theory.
But in practice, when we see the rat-fucking that goes on in the industry, it's, A, these guys don't have credentials.
So they're bringing up all these legal theories and all these legal ramifications.
and, oh, this is going to be illegal if we change the code.
They're not lawyers.
We do not understand law.
Even Zabo was getting dunked on this week
because he didn't understand, say,
Farber laws and other laws.
And he should have because he was a cypherpunk, you know,
when the regulatory clarity was not there in the 90s.
So he should have been paying the bet either way.
Zabo does.
I'm pretty sure he got a law degree just for shits and gigs,
which is like, as one does, you know.
Sorry, continue.
Well, you didn't have anybody, you know,
here with you, his legal theory.
Samson's not a good enough reviewer for legal theory, okay?
You better at least ask Chet GVT more after Samson.
But, you know, it's...
They're not very good at it.
Their arguments are pretty retarded.
I mean, Shinobi's calling them retarded, left and right.
Retardively, they're making all kinds of announcements,
absurd announcements that
people are getting laughed at.
We do need to maybe wrap up a little
fire-sharpened iron.
We need a little bit more controversy,
a little bit more drama.
We need a few more practice rounds before we take on
the states.
If you win that one, it's over.
We want to be ready.
I agree with that.
That's a good point.
Perhaps all of the
internal rat-fucking within the Bitcoin community
is really, it's this necessary step.
It's the practice that we go through.
It's our sandbox to play in, you know,
before we go in to the big wide world of, you know,
the central bank rat fucking.
Because, like, those guys do operate on a different playing field
with a different set of, let's say,
they have bigger bags they're bringing to the table.
You know what I mean?
They don't even necessarily need to be good at what they do.
They've got the entrenched power system on their side,
and they've got the money printer, right?
So we don't have either of those things,
but we do have better memes.
You know, that's one thing.
The memes, I've got to say,
Bitcoin memes are better in bear markets.
I've only been around for like just over a cycle now,
you know, got it in 2020.
And the bear market memes were great, right?
I feel like they had some actual soul to them.
And now the memes are like what liberals try to do when they, when they meme, which just ends up not being funny. And it's like weird forced. And there's like way too many words on their, you know, on whatever their images, they put like way too many words on there because they got to make sure they get the whole point out. Right. And like, you know, have chat GBT, right. A little bit of their meme for them because they're not actually clever enough to think of it themselves. And it's like, ah, it's just lame. It's just lame. We need, I, if there's one thing people should, should
strive to do it is make better memes but if you try to make better memes you're gonna end up making
shittier memes like i think you're trying to make better memes right now try less try less but do
more yeah the very similar situation with like the u.s military or uh you know it's when they're
dealing with the middle east we're sending over these you know trillion dollar projects these
aircraft carriers and these F-35s, F-22s, and we're using this, while very vastly superior,
vastly more expensive, military force, and we're just to shoot down these little cheap drones.
And it's like, if you're, you know, I don't want to call anybody out here, but a good example,
mechanic. He's just writing these long threads. They're just very dramatic and very performative.
and all of that is just getting struck down by shinobi just dropping retarded if you you can't
fight like these long threads against retard you have to have tighter memes because everybody
they you have to have a tighter meme and you have to have more frequency yeah i agree with that and
you know but and it is good that we call out mechanic right it is good that we ridicule
mechanic why because mechanic is a bitcoin podcaster and when you step up to the microphone
You know what you're doing. You know you are going to get ridiculed, right?
And you need to be prepared for that.
Mechanic, he knew what he was getting into when he sat down in that studio, right?
When he started when he just said I going to become a Bitcoin podcaster Mom I going to do it And I support him being a Bitcoin podcaster He a pretty pretty convincing one Like especially if you listen without volume like it really good Like it honestly like it
it's compelling. And if you listen just with a little bit of volume too, cause he's got kind of
that cool accent, like that's, that's neat. Like we don't have cool accents, right? Like wish we
did. That's like a, such a podcasting hack, but you got to be born with it. Right. And, and
Unfortunately, some of us just aren't.
We're just goddamn red-blooded Americans, right?
But we play the hands we're dealt.
And for him, though, again, I think it's great that he's Bitcoin podcasting right now.
And, you know, I hope that he's listening to his 40 hours per week, too, though.
That's what I'm not so sure of.
Because as a podcaster, you still have to take in your 40 hours per week.
You don't get a pass to that, you know?
Richard, Richard, are you going to let him do the way it was saying that Mechanic has a cool accent?
well i think we talked about on the last show i think we're on the same page about this about the
psyop of the yeah it is a jackson yeah i mean it'd be interesting to have somebody and go and uh
run his voice through uh take the transcripts and run it through you know a text of voice thing and
an american accent to to see if people you know think differently about the things he's saying but
But, you know, one of the great services that Mechanic is providing the ecosystem is there's people that have gained a lot of relevancy that they probably wouldn't have had before, you know, through being able to argue with him constantly.
So you look at, like, Mr. Hoddle.
Mr. Hoddle doesn't have a Bitcoin podcast.
uh but in many ways he's you know he was a big deal back in the day but he's kind of got in a
second wind as a result of being able to argue with mechanic and to be able to dunk on him uh
you know mechanics given a lot of people a reason to podcast he's given you know when you confuse
the plebs what they oftentimes do is they they want to listen to more podcasts in order to try
and come to a conclusion on something and so he's created a tremendous amount of demand for the
bitcoin content ecosystem podconf i know is stoked i know people were excited to go to these podconf
events and see these guys argue they you know mechanics sold a bunch of tickets for them
like look how dramatic btc plus plus was in austin that was you know people typically look at
technical conferences and they're like oh this is boring you know i don't want to listen to you
know these autistic people but being able to get mechanic and luke on stage with jameson and shinobi
and matt carallo it's a it's a big deal people people are going to pay for tickets i mean that's
kind of like you know whenever conor mcgregor fights uh in the ufc and um so yeah i would say
mechanic has done a tremendous amount for the podconf ecosystem he yeah just you know give him
a round of applause i might even have a might even have an applause thing i'll get the applause thing
ready later so because we should you know we should applaud anyone who is bitcoin podcasting
just the sheer act of bitcoin podcasting is an act is a brave act right it doesn't matter what
you're saying as long as it is about Bitcoin.
Because, and like you said, you know, the controversy sells and like that's selling
tickets, that's supporting that PodConf ecosystem.
And I think that that is a really just, it's a, it's a crucial mission really.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, one of the challenges I think we all have, so, so Rod had a very, you know, incredible
monologue recently a couple weeks ago that uh made it circles a lot of people listen to and he
talked about disengaging for the debate so one of the challenges i think we all have as bitcoin
podcasters is like trying to be discussing relevant topics but you know when whenever
the plebs get wrapped up in a topic that doesn't matter there's so much inertia in it and so if
you're talking about something completely different that you think matters more it's hard to get them
to change direction and view your content i'm curious on how you navigate those types of uh
uh, uh, forces, you know, to, um, there, there's a temptation to engage with the current thing,
even if it doesn't matter. How do you think are some good ways to approach that issue
of letting other people define the conversation entirely and not really having a role in it
versus trying to define the conversation yourself and talk about the things that matter to you?
That's a great question. I don't know. My intent was to completely stay out of this whole debate du jour.
it just felt like it should be pretty self-evident that this wasn't as big of a deal as people were
making it and that this was obviously going to blow over and this was something that was being
used to whip people up into a little bit of a frenzy and to give people the feeling that they
are able to to do something that they're and that they are saving bitcoin because bitcoin is in
danger, there is an existential threat that we must address and that I am the person who needs
to champion this by repeating what other people say and by retweeting the right things, that that's
what will save Bitcoin and then I'm doing my part, right? And so I was just kind of just disinterested
with the debate because again, I've thought about the game theory of Bitcoin enough in a non-click
baity way with game theory, but like genuinely thinking, like if you spend any meaningful amount
of time thinking about this and about how the, uh, the economics of these things work, you probably
weren't that worried about all of this. And then I decided to wade into it because, you know, my,
my sweet smoking hot wife, uh, asked a genuine question, you know, saying like, I still don't
understand how, how filters work. This was a couple of months ago. And I was like, well, you know,
I've got a funny meme for this. Like, you know, give the wife an old quote tweet and, you know,
do that, uh, the Mr. Invincible meme where it's like, you know, how does like X work? And like,
that's the neat thing. It doesn't. Uh, and I was like, how do filters work? That's the neat thing.
They don't. And I just posted that thought it was a hilarious meme, short, sweet to the point.
Uh, the vitriol with which that meme was greeted made me go like, Oh, Oh, okay. Wow. People are
more amped up about this than I thought. Okay. Stay still stayed out of it for a little while.
and and and i've done a couple of shows about this i don't again it was just called the silent k
i've done a couple of shows with this as as a part of it um not as necessarily the whole focus
and honestly like and those shows people have again people have this fucking retarded idea
that like if they designate you as an influencer because nobody calls themselves an influencer
unless you're a fucking loser, right?
Like I don't consider myself an influencer.
Like I'm literally just a guy who started making stupid short form videos
with his smoking hot wife and then started a Bitcoin podcast.
If you want to be influenced by me, that's on you, bro.
Like, you know, be your own influencer.
You don't need to be influenced by anyone else.
People like to call you this when you have somehow gotten a decent following.
And they have this idea that, well, if you are saying things
that are against what my opinions are,
you're saying things I don't like. And I somehow view that as out of character for you, because
usually you say the things I like, you say the things about Bitcoin that I like, I say, I say
those things, and you say those things. So we must all think the same thing. And now you're saying
something that I don't like. And it makes me feel uncomfortable, because I haven't thought that
deeply about it. I've just been, you know, I've been getting influenced by other people. And that
must mean that you are on the take from somebody, it must mean that you are taking money from
somebody that you are, that you're quote compromised, you know, that you've been compromised
and you're now a, a spam apologist and you're a, you know, you're going to bat for core and all of
these things. And it's like, no, no guys, not, not going to bat for anyone. Certainly not
compromised. Like fuck, if you can find somebody who wants to compromise me and start paying me,
please let me know. I would love to start, you know, making some money. That'd be great.
It would be fantastic.
So if you want to sponsor my being compromised, by all means.
I'm really, I'm compromised by plebs apps mostly.
So like, I guess the plebs have compromised me.
But I haven't changed.
changed how I view things. Like you've just been influenced in a different direction.
I just have a different opinion on something than you do. That's okay. We should have that.
It's not that big of a deal. We should still be able to debate it in a respectful and cordial
manner. But that's not what we've seen. And an interesting thing for me was like,
people like to say, oh, like, you know, you're, you're just, you're just doing this because,
to get attention or things like that. I'm like, guys, guys, me talking about this whole silent K
debate has been a negative. If I actually cared about my, quote, influencer status,
which again, I don't. And I think that's a stupid word. Stop being influenced by other people,
influence yourself. But if I actually cared about that, I would just not talk about this at all.
Or I would just be like, I am pro silent K I'm running silent K because that is the thing that gets everybody being like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're on our side. It's the, uh, in terms of people vocally speaking out, it's the minority opinion to be like, no, I think that's just, that's like, do whatever you want.
But you're not actually doing anything meaningful by running silent K.
You can do it. Feel free, do whatever you want. I think it's great. I think it's fantastic.
but we're still just both Bitcoiners because we have the same consensus rules for Bitcoin.
Your mempool policy, as Michael Tidwell says, your mempool policy doesn't make you
a different Bitcoin or your relay policy doesn't make you a different Bitcoin or
your consensus rules do. And so it gets funny that a couple of the episodes I posted with like
the one I posted with Tidwell, who's an awesome dude, built tab conf, is also a Bitcoin podcaster,
has been for many years, just a chill dude, family guy, super smart, super hilarious,
great at chess too. I could go on and on. I love Tidwell. That episode just got so much random,
random hate and like super low numbers. Like these aren't like numbers that are blowing up
because people don't want to hear opinions that contradict what they believe. When they've dug in
their heels, people want to have their biases confirmed. They do not want to challenge what
they have accepted as part of their identity. Like this is a game of ultimately like identity
node politics right now that's what we're experiencing yeah and i just and it's a leftist
tool ultimately so it's very funny when people are saying the core devs are all leftists it's like
i'm seeing more of the leftist tactics from a different camp but i'm not the one like there
is no red there is no blue there are the retards and you know they are you it's like yeah the
the nazis are like trying to call themselves the and the anti-communist or the anti-anticore
in us but it's you know you have to it's your actions not what you call yourself right it's
it's once it's not about what's in our mempool it's once in our blocks it's not about like it's
not it's not about like i tell my my my grandpa he's disappointing me it's it's not about the
tattoos grandpa it's about what's in my heart i can still go to heaven with tattoos and it's so
you know you say like we're both you're saying like we are both big winners at the end of the
day and they're just trying to find reasons to say why somebody's not they just want to it's an
exclusive thing i don't know i don't um i think it's gonna still play out whatever the the anger
and the animosity and like the real root of this conflict is i really don't think it's
about ordnance and i don't think it's really about being in men pools i think it's something deeper
and he was just, you know, hats it to Mechanic for being such a good podcaster
that he got the plugs riled up enough that people are starting to work out their differences
and starting to transact that.
It's just all getting along and pretending to get along because we're all, you know,
in this fight with Bitcoin together.
It's like, well, we do have disagreements and we've been avoiding it too long.
but with conflicts this high you know i just saw a video a tiktok of some some lady at a at a full
nfl game and she she pissed off this other guy and her boyfriend had to to fight this other guy
and it was like oh man not a great situation if the other guy's huge but you're in like a rare
situation or it's not super rare but your wife is you know maybe used to be more famous than you
you're a pocket does she ever piss off other podcasters you didn't come after you and you
got to defend yourself from the plebs and from podcasters because your wife went and wrote some
checks that you're you know your mic couldn't cash usually it's uh the the the recent theme
has been uh control your husband uh that she's had commented to her a bunch which we both her and i
find hilarious. And so, you know, usually she's, she doesn't like to wade into these things,
you know, too much. She's busy being an amazing mother and, you know, actually creating value in
this world by raising our son. So she doesn't take too much time for the keyboard warriors
that are out there, you know, pretending that they're changing the world without actually doing
anything meaningful. It's usually me that, that, that gets, that gets her into trouble through,
through the power of this gosh darn microphone, you know, it's a, but with a great microphone
comes great responsibility, I guess. And, and again, I knew, I knew this, the chair I was sitting
in, right. I'm sitting in the, it's not the wrist chair. It's the podcaster's chair. And ultimately
it's a, you know, it's, it's a risk to sit in that podcaster's chair, but it's one that it's,
So if not us, then who?
And if not now, when?
Probably never.
Like, personally, I'm just going to keep on podcasting.
And this is why I encourage anybody who has grievances,
just start a Bitcoin podcast and start talking about them.
Then you, too, can have other people call you an influencer.
And you can be like, well, I'm not an influencer.
And they'll be like, yes, you are, you loser.
And you'll be like, and then it'll all come full circle, guys.
You just have to start a Bitcoin podcast to begin that journey.
So it's your advice.
I think there's going to be a time when, as a Bitcoin podcaster, you're going to say or do something.
And everybody's going to be talking about it.
Your wife's going to hear about it.
Your family might hear about it.
People are going to be complaining and saying that you said something or did something controversial.
And so you're saying your advice in this situation is to just tell your wife to worry about the kids.
You'll worry about the podcast.
Exactly.
Like my wife doesn't listen to my podcast and she shouldn't.
She gets a she gets a pot, a Bitcoin podcast every time we talk.
I mean, lucky her, really.
So, you know, your wife shouldn't be listening to your podcast.
That's that's that's not what it's about.
If your wife needs to listen to your podcast, then you guys aren't talking enough.
All right. Like there shouldn't need to be a microphone separating you and your wife. All right, guys. So, you know, I say Bitcoin podcast with your wife every time you guys are talking around the kitchen table. That's where the Bitcoin podcast happen with your family is around that kitchen table. Right.
save save the bitcoin podcasting with the actual microphones save that for your fellow plebs but
you know but make every conversation with family make it a bitcoin podcast
totally um we're going into this
environment where i think the vibes in in
there's a pretty good chance that the vibes for many people interacting with bitcoin are
going to be tested even more so than they are today i think in the the world of the the non-bitcoin
podcast listener the vibes are going to just continue to reach all-time lows i think those
people are really grasping at straws they don't really have a lot of sense of direction and hope
as far as for you and just for people in general how do you feel what are some
just helpful ways to raise the vibes for yourself and the people you care about
and the listeners of your podcast?
Where are you thinking about that?
Well, I think one of the key things is touch grass and get sunshine
before you step in front of the microphone.
Because if you're going into a Bitcoin podcast
and you have not recently grounded and basked in the glory of the sun,
you're just already starting with a bad vibe, right?
That's, I mean, that's just like 101 stuff.
Gotta sun your balls.
Sun as much as you can, right?
As much as you can, you need to get that skin exposed.
Even if it's cold, like, I don't want to hear it.
A little cold shock is going to be a good thing for you.
That's going to get your mind more agile
and your body prepared to sit in that podcaster chair The next thing you need to do is remember that you know you probably don need to take everything quite so seriously
It's okay to have a little bit of fun.
It's okay to make jokes.
It's okay to laugh.
And you should also be able to laugh at yourself.
If you can't laugh at yourself, somebody else is going to laugh at you.
Probably many someones, right?
So be able to make fun of things.
be able to make fun of yourself and be able to have a good time with it.
Like money and state has been separated.
It's our job now to keep it that way, right?
Buy Bitcoin podcasting.
We may as well have some fun along the way.
Otherwise, what are we doing here?
Then we're just like the trad fi suits.
If we can't have a little fun, if we can't make a little tit,
a little bit tit pun every now and then, what's the point of any of it, right?
So I'd say have fun.
And the third point is, I guess, if you want to keep the vibes high, you really shouldn't give a fuck what anyone says.
Like, the only people whose opinions you should actually care about are your families.
Like, you should care what your wife thinks.
You should care what your children think.
You should care what your parents and some close relations think.
Maybe once you get out to second cousin, you can stop caring.
But depending on how cool that cousin is.
but you really shouldn't give a fuck what random people on the internet think.
Like if you do, you are going to have bad vibes throughout your life
because most people on the internet are just retarded.
Like, and that's not to say that I myself am not retarded often.
I identify as retarded.
So yes, I am often retarded.
But like, if you are going to internalize what random people online
who have never had a beer with you in person think about you,
like you're in for a world of trouble, buddy.
You're just going to have bad vibes.
So the people whose thoughts about you you should care about are those whom you love.
Everyone else's, take it with a grain of salt.
Don't pay too much attention to it.
If it's constructive criticism or a suggestion for how you can be a better Bitcoin podcaster,
that's different.
You should listen to that.
You should listen to the people who are listening to you or giving you part of their 40 hours
per week.
but that doesn't mean you need to internalize all the bad vibes that all the other people put out
there right bad vibes abound and bad vibes are basically bad bad vibes are the noise right good
vibes are the signal and you need to focus on that signal otherwise you will be swallowed in a sea of
bad vibes noise so touch grass sun your balls yeah on as much of your body as you can before
podcasting uh i forgot what the second one was already and then don't give too oh don't take
yourself too seriously don't take anything too seriously we're separating money and state that's
a very serious thing we should have fun and then third is just don't give into the bad vibes of
random strangers on the internet they just they just don't matter and one of the one of the major
problems it's you know it's just a function of bitcoin being a global permissionless asset
is that there's so many different people from so many different perspectives and backgrounds
cultures etc looking at this and arguing about and then we're arguing these higher level problems
and often we're talking past each other um and it were it's miscommunication that's the
fundamental of you're talking to your wife, you know, arguing with your wife is you're
constantly miscommunicating.
So you're obviously constantly miscommunicating with your podcast and your social media.
But what you can do is you can match the vibes.
As long as you can match the vibes, you can work things out.
As long as people can match the vibes and their time preferences, they can see what
kind of time preference brain they're working with on the other side here you know that's how
markets are made right like somebody's a very motivated seller somebody's very motivated but
whatever you just match the vibe and as long as you can match the vibe you can figure it out because
sometimes it takes time to feel figure out what a lot of that vibes were off in the first place
well said and i think this this goes back to something we were talking about
when we were last on a Bitcoin podcast,
podcasting about Bitcoin podcasting,
you know, the good vibes are self-evident, right?
You know a good vibe when you see one.
And so are the bad vibes.
But the bad vibes are not self-evident
to the person who is emitting the bad vibes,
who is excreting these noisy bad vibes
that are trying to overwhelm the signal of the good vibes.
Because the good vibes are always there somewhere.
This is one of the reasons I love Noster so much.
there is a higher signal to noise, a higher good vibes to bad vibes ratio on Noster than on anywhere
else I've seen. You go on X, it's a lot harder to find the good vibes signal amidst the bad vibes
noise. You go any of these other centralized shithole platforms, it is harder to find the
good vibes amidst the bad. Doesn't mean they're not there. They very much are still there. At the
end of the day, good vibes are the light in the darkness of bad vibes, right? They are that light
at the end of the tunnel, beckoning us towards a better vibed future. But if you're spending most
of your time on these centralized shithole platforms where you need to wade through a sea
of dark, bad vibe noise, just to be able to find a little bit of good vibe,
you know, you're going to get lost along the way. You're going to get swallowed by that sea. You will
drown in the sea of bad vibes and you will forget that you were there in the first place to look for
the good vibes. And so I would, I would recommend that people as well, if you want to increase the
vibes, spend more time on Noster. And I think a lot of the silent K's would do well to do that.
Like spend more time on Noster. Look at all the incredible people. I just saw a guy the other day.
He was a zap, zap the heck out of him every day. He's just posting videos of himself playing the
violin, just, just riffing on the violin. And he's just doing that on Noster. He's getting
zapped sats for it that's awesome what a what a good vibe like that's just that's just a top-notch
vibe and we need more of that you think you're going to see cool random dudes playing the violin
on x no you're going to see gas station beatings and shootings because that's that is what the the
sea of bad vibes you have to wade through on no star just opened it up i saw a cool guy playing
the violin sweet zapped him some sats that's a good vibe hell yeah yeah i think it's pretty
important to care what your wife thinks there's a lot of men out there that uh also care about what
their wives think and uh i don't know if it's symbolic or just uh it kind of shows where the
relationship is but uh then it seems like a lot of people that are married are uncomfortable to
admit that lynn alden is hot is that is that a problem for you and your relationship with your
wife or she comfortable with you we both love lindalden you know so that that's that's the great
thing and you know what that's kind of what i figured yeah yeah lindalden just has it you know
why because lindalden has a great vibe lindalden is also incredible at memeing you ever notice that
too people with great vibes they tend to be really good at memes because memes a good meme is about
a good vibe and lindalden i mean i think probably what will go down in history as the financial
macro meme of the decade, maybe of the century, is nothing stops this train. I mean, what a meme.
You know, don't make her tap the sign because she will. And that's just another example. Good vibes,
good memes. That's what we need more of. All right, people. And you find a lot more of those,
again, on Noster. So take that as you will. Totally. What's a word of advice?
like uh so your wife seems to respect glenn alden maybe a lot of other people's wives don't
you know it just seems like relationships can be difficult for certain women not all women
but sometimes like when they're when i mean you see the memes poking fun at it where the the girl's
with her boyfriend and the boyfriend's looking at another woman and she gets you know frustrated
by that or insecurity you think that's kind of what's going on here is is people i think the
thing that i find strange is that when i say lynn alden's hot people try to make it sexual
what i'm trying to point out like you said is that she's really smart she's really good at memes
she's got a good vibe to her she's very competent like that's what i mean when she say when i say
that she's hot um but for these guys who who feel uncomfortable with it because they're afraid of
what their wives will think of them or say to them.
Do you have any advice for these guys?
I think they need to look inward right If you uncomfortable with the good vibes that someone else is putting off because that what it ultimately is right This is what you describing Lynn Alden hotness is related to the goodness of her vibes the strength of her memes the quality of her
intellectual pursuits. That is the hotness of Lynn Alden. And if that makes you uncomfortable,
buddy, you got to take a look right in here and right in here and ask yourself why that is,
Okay. Because if good vibes are making you uncomfortable, it may be because, and you wouldn't realize this, you know, you can't, you can't know it yourself, but it may be because you yourself have a bad vibe.
And, and that's, that's hard, but you know what? You can fix that. It, you can't consciously fix it. Right. It goes, it goes, it's so much deeper than just you being like, well, I'm, I'm not going to be an annoying piece of shit now.
It's like, no, that annoying piece of shit that's still going to shine through,
that weak little man is still going to shine through.
You've just got to, I don't know, I guess just start with touching grass more.
Like, it's a cliche, but literally just go walk outside.
Take off your shirt.
Take off your pants if you can.
Go walk around in the grass in the sunshine.
That is, like, there is no way your vibes will become worse
when you are walking around,
bare skin exposed to the sun,
those rays just beating down on your open,
your bare chest, feet touching the grass,
just soaking in that energy of the earth
as you dispel all that negative energy.
There's no way your vibes get worse when you're doing that.
So that's a good place to start for folks, I think.
There's not enough grass touching happening.
And the thing is, it's not even winter yet, guys.
It's not even winter yet and your vibes are this bad.
Imagine, imagine how bad the vibes are gonna get
once it's the dead of winter and people are like,
oh, I can't, it's too cold on my feet.
Like, no excuses, no excuses.
Use your feet to melt the snow all the way down
until you find the grass to touch, you know?
But if you're not doing that in the summertime,
you're not doing it in the wintertime either.
And your vibes are going to get worse.
Like they're going to get worse.
And it's going to be sad to see.
See, you know, sometimes I think vibes
are similar to like having bad breath or, you know, nice breath.
do you when do you when he wait do you do it in private and public right away do you wait if you
know you've got a friend with bad vibes or you know you do and do you want people to just come
be forthcoming and tell you if you know you've gotten your vibes stink like how do we approach
that how do we encourage each other to have good vibes do you need each other room to
experience their own vibes
but then step in and
let them know it's time to cut the shit
it's time to up the vibes
it's time to stop the wall
it's time to get the podcast going
get them pumping out
you've got so many in the queue, let's go
what's your advice in navigating that?
well, you guys aren't going to believe this
but I think the advice might come down
to starting a Bitcoin podcast
and just making those first few episodes totally for yourself
and checking your own vibes on those.
Try to step outside of yourself
as if you were a listener to your own Bitcoin podcast.
You're just another pleb trying to get there 40 hours per week.
And do a vibe check on yourself.
What kind of a vibe are you really giving off?
Can you be objective about it?
Do you have the ability to step outside of yourself,
to go out of your own body,
and to look back at yourself and say,
is that guy a guy I'd like to get part of my 40 hours per week from?
Because that's ultimately what a good vibe is, right?
If somebody wants to get part of their 40 hours per week from you,
you probably got a good vibe.
You don't want to get part of your 40 hours per week from a bad vibe.
Why would you want that?
You don't want to be inundating yourself with bad vibes.
You got 40 hours per week.
You got to make them count.
So I think that really so much of it,
so much of fixing your own vibe does come back to after you've grounded,
after you've soaked in some of the sun,
getting in front of that microphone and starting that Bitcoin podcast.
And then really just reflecting on whether or not you are a Bitcoin podcaster
who you yourself would give part of your scarce 40 hours per week to.
Because if you're not, if you wouldn't give yourself part of your scarce 40 hours per week,
you probably got a bad vibe.
So many things are fixed with Bitcoin podcasting.
You know, that's really, it's not a panacea, but boy, it's pretty close.
Yeah, that's some pretty sound advice.
I appreciate that.
Kind of incredible.
We have over 70 views on Zapstream for this conversation.
I know.
Like, you multiply that by like 100,
and that's basically what it would be on the centralized platforms, essentially,
from what I've seen.
like you gotta you gotta multiply that zap.stream amount by by 100 sure maybe 50 you know but i i
think that's that that's fair you know it's it's tough to get people to come on zap.stream but
whenever people do i'm like this is this is awesome you guys are not only giving me part
of your 40 hours per week but you're giving me part of your 40 hours per week on a censorship
resistant open protocol for communication that is fucking cool well it's kind of funny when you
think about it from when you're operating and i think we learned this firsthand when you're
operating on a value for value standard in the bitcoin ecosystem one pioneer is worth a thousand
plugs you know the plugs that are out there they're they're gobbling up sailor uh slop
they're uh talking about how you should never spend your bitcoin they're calling nostrigay
you know those types of plebs what one pioneer that's actually doing something with their lives
is worth a thousand of those guys
yeah it's you guys had a you were talking about this a little bit uh in your one of your last
episodes behind the podcast with Odell and that idea that, you know, a lot of those people out
there are just complaining and not doing anything. They can't even be bothered to get on Noster.
They can't even be bothered to do that. And I think the comment you made was, you know,
tongue in cheek because, you know, because the UX is too hard or something, which at this point,
it's just not like, yeah, there, if you're, if you're a podcaster trying to live stream on Noster,
it can get a little bit tricky, but for the average person who is just going, you know,
going on primal going on domus the ux is pretty darn good like you have to be yeah at this point
you have to be a little stupid not to be able to figure it out but so many of you know but again
maybe it's like do we want those bad vibes over on noster the nice thing is that people with bad
vibes tend not to stay on noster they tend to come over they rage post for a little bit while
a little while they realize nobody gives a shit about their rage posting over here because there's
no algorithmic incentive for them to rage post and nobody you know like gg says you wouldn't zap
a car crash nobody wants to zap your bad vibes you want to zap good vibes and that's ultimately
to distill gg's point down a little you wouldn't zap a car crash right you'll look at a car crash
you'll maybe be enthralled by it you won't zap it you won't buy your value you know this is why
this is but you won't zap bad vibes you'll zap good vibes this is what planet or did last on uh
on nostril right like they nobody wanted to pay and zap planet or complain about paperback coins
summer so he left he turned right around what would he make you know wise
yeah you've not even won i don't think but i do like your point um it is it's maybe rfk because
rfk really got into podcast during the uh elections last year if rfk could just make it so that any
therapist or any psychologist or psychiatrist when somebody comes in they're complaining about their
life and everything's going wrong and they're
oppressed by everything, the first thing
they should do before they
give them
a pill is ask them,
have you tried farting around on Nostra?
Don't own download Primal. Fart
around on Nostra for a couple hours.
If you don't feel better, you can have
some Xanax. You know what I mean?
You gotta try something.
Totally.
Maybe even before or
after, if just going on
Noster doesn't work by itself. Maybe then before the Xanax, try starting a podcast or maybe before
that even get your 40 hours per week of Bitcoin podcasts. And then like, there's, there's so many
stages you could take before pharmaceutical intervention needs to be there for some people
with, with a true imbalance, a chemical imbalance that can't be righted in any other way.
Sure. Whatever. Uh, but like for most people, I think Noster 40 hours per week of Bitcoin
podcasts that'll fix you and if that doesn't start one for yourself and that'll probably fix you uh
or at least make you realize how much of a problem you have if none of those things do fix you
totally um well one of the things we do at the end of the show is uh we go through our
founding boosts at the previous interview show that we did uh out of curiosity walker uh what
what shows are your favorites that you listen to on a regular basis what makes up your 40 hours per
week? Well, you know, even though Peter McCormack is doing less Bitcoin podcasting these days,
and more political podcasting, I still do love his show. I don't listen to it as much as I did
before. Just because you know, I'm trying to ingest as much Bitcoin Bitcoin content as possible.
But luckily, you know, then I have I have good old Danny Knowles to be able to fall back on I can
still get that nostalgic. Danny has an accent too. So it's almost like if you close your eyes
and you just squint a little bit, it's almost like Peter's back there again. Danny's doing a
great job. He's a great Bitcoin podcaster. And I love that his story is coming on board to help
Peter with his show because he's like, hey, your audio sucks. You need to be a better Bitcoin
podcaster. I can help you be a better Bitcoin podcaster. And by George, he did it. And then
what does he do? He takes over the reins and becomes the Bitcoin podcaster himself. I mean,
it's a beautiful story, really, of Bitcoin podcasting and how you can just do things.
You can just tell somebody their podcast sucks. You want to fix it. Make it the biggest Bitcoin
podcast in the world. When they go off to start becoming the prime minister of England and saving
that cesspool from itself. Thank you, Peter, for doing that because we need the UK saved.
But then you step up to the plate and you become the podcaster yourself. You become the man in the
studio or in the main podcaster's chair. Guy Swan is still on my heavy rotation,
as is Preston Pish. Your guy's show has entered my heavy rotation as well.
This Week in Bitcoin came on my radar recently because it was on top of the fountain charts.
I started checking it out. TFTC, Marty Bent. I mean, these are some classics. Obviously,
I'm not throwing out anything too crazy here.
Let me go into my fountain list.
I enjoy very much Natalie Brunel's show as well
for when I want to see how a journalist should really conduct themselves.
And it's always like, wow, I am not a serious person over here.
But the world needs all kinds, right?
Her show goes to the top of the charts and makes it to the normies,
which I think is just huge.
Also, guys, I do want to point out our episode that we did together.
Oh, it's down to number three now.
Rabbit hole recap all in Bitcoin has just surpassed it and taken the two spot.
But it was on the number two spot on Fountain's hot list.
So that's pretty sweet.
There's another one I listened to.
Actually, it's not a Bitcoin podcast, but I do enjoy it every now and then.
It's called The Carousel.
It's pretty decent.
It's more about political, cultural vibes.
it's it's it's it's pretty solid um yeah i mean those are my those are my main ones i i like uh
every now and then i'll do peter saint onges uh his weekly recap of his daily shows that he posts
on x he lumps them into a podcast i can listen to it on fountain i like that a lot uh i love
dave smith's show uh part of the problem it's just a it's an awesome podcast dave's got a great vibe
to him along there with his co-host, Robbie, the fire Bernstein, they do a killer job. It's like,
it's just a, it's a darn good podcast. Dave's a Bitcoiner too. Doesn't talk about Bitcoin a ton
in his show, you know, pretty infrequently, but he's a Bitcoiner. He's made that clear. He's given
some great talks at panels at Bitcoin conferences and he's got just a killer podcast. I enjoy
listening to it because he's also, cause he's funny. Like, you know, I think this is why
comedians make such great podcasters and why, you know, people during the election, everyone's like,
they, you know, Trump is talking to all these just random comedians with their podcasts. And it's like,
because people actually want to listen to them. They don't want to, nobody's getting, I mean,
if you're getting 40 hours per week of CNN, you're a fucking retard. Like that's just like,
and if you weren't, it's going to make you retarded. Like it is just talk about boomer slop,
but comedians they make great podcasters because they ask great questions because they don't take
everything too freaking seriously they're able to make you laugh while discussing something that's
maybe really heavy they're able to get people to open up a little bit where they otherwise might
not have and i think that's a beautiful thing you know it's we we need more podcasters we need more
comedian podcasters it's it's fantastic so yeah that's that's a lot of my heavy rotation i also
dabble with uh with other random shows every now and then uh but but yeah this is the difficulty of
when you are a bitcoin podcaster you have less time to listen to bitcoin podcasts but you still
got to try to get those 40 hours per week you got to try you know you don't always succeed
but the important thing is that you tried totally what's what's what's heavy rotation for you guys
ungovernable misfits that's a good point in um plug chain radio uh rock paper bitcoin uh
see what else once in a while i'll dabble with all the ones that you're you mentioned i i've
been avoiding listening to dave smith because i i just think libertarians are running the playbook
on how to lose and it kind of gets tiresome but you know i feel like even dave kind of admits that
too though you know like he's kind of like listen you guys are not being super serious about this
but this is why libertarianism needs it needs orange pilling like libertarianism doesn't like
it's kind of toothless without fixing the money you know it's like it's like okay
now that's the way they're that's the way they want it though that's how libertarians like it
yeah if they wanted to win they wouldn't be libertarians they'd be doing something productive
it's kind of like being a bitcoin club and just um consuming all the sailor slop
this is yeah it it is um
i would say they need more podcasts but like if they really became good podcasters then they'd
move on to other things uh is because like to go back to something you said a little bit earlier
like one of the reasons to start a podcast is because it's a vibes feedback you're letting out
very you're putting out vibes on very important matters very very crucial important fundamental
matters that need to be resolved at a much broader societal level right now and you're getting the
vibes feedback you're starting to figure out what takes makes people tick and what makes people
seem like they're really mad or like you know have these really performative responses but you know
The vibe isn't, it's almost like they fit,
it's like you teed them up and they're trying to just hit, you know,
hit on right off of your tee up.
But it's, I kind of lost where I was going with there,
but it's the feedback mechanism is what's important is that if you don't have
that feedback and you don't know the right vibes and you can't vibe switch,
uh it's just going to be very difficult to navigate because there's just so much
this and you know so many psyops out there that are getting you to kind of mismatch the vibe
yeah i mean there's so many good bitcoin podcasts yeah good there's so many good bitcoin podcasts
out there i feel like there's some uh that i listen to on a regular basis and then there's
some that i just listen to frequently like there's uh your podcast i listen to the episode with michael
tidwell once in a while listen to american hodl and eric casem when you uh have them on uh you've
got um uh daniel prance i was listening to him today you got uh there's just a wide assortment
of people that are doing i was listening to the bitcoin matrix podcast recently and that one was
kind of funny uh because uh once again it was about the you know the annoying debate that
everybody's wound up about and it was kind of tone deaf but it's helpful to hear that uh guy swan is
great i was listening to his uh narration of the 21 lessons by uh gg on monday um great book
yeah it's a it's a very vibrant ecosystem of uh of stuff uh there's a lot of information to consume
a lot of really
yeah Goomba
Sly Goomba's got a podcast
I was listening to that he had fundamentals on
recently
yeah
I've been
I've actually been listening to non but like
podcast is kind of outside
of Bitcoin whether it's comedy
or there's a lot of these
I don't
they're not really like Charlie
They're not necessarily political, but it's a very outspoken like for an ideology.
So I've been listening to kind of some of these more extreme or controversial ones that have been really popping up and kind of capturing a lot of people's attention.
Wait, we just to see what everybody's going to be riled up about.
But when it comes to Bitcoin podcast, I mostly I've just been listening to episodes of my friends, like my friends going to be, you know, if they.
Fundamentals has a couple podcasts
You know
When Robbie Hamilton goes on podcasts
I want to listen to that
I want to listen to you know
Or you know
Somebody's going to go on with Casey and Aaron
On the Almighty Pod
I want to listen to those
I'm just trying to listen to my friends
And see what they're talking about
What they're interested in
And maybe see
You know
If I can help shine a light on something
If they're doing something that I think is cool
That more people should be paying attention to
so that's kind of what i've been doing you know what i was thinking guys i just uh in preparation
for this conversation i was i was thinking about podcasting obviously and it was when i was
listening to your podcast with odell you're talking about the work that he does with open
sats and that kind of stuff and i was thinking it's it's great that we have all of the these
different types of you know hrf has a fund there's a bunch of other funds right that
collect money and give it to Bitcoin developers to support the development work that they were
doing. I think that that's wonderful. That's great. We should be supporting open source
development on Bitcoin, Noster, eCash, all these things. We should be supporting it.
But why isn't there one of these nonprofit funds that is allocating money to Bitcoin podcasters?
Why don't we have funds? Why isn't there an open pods? Why isn't there an open pods
that expressly supports Bitcoin podcasters
so that they can focus on what they do best,
which is Bitcoin podcasting.
They don't have to worry about going around
and chase sponsors to pay
for all their expensive microphones and stuff.
They can just focus on bringing signal in a noisy world.
They can focus on bringing good vibes
in a world of bad vibes, right?
So I think, guys, what we need to do,
we need to get ourselves a 501c3
and we need to start raising money
to give to promising Bitcoin podcasts.
I'm throwing it out there, throwing it out there.
Maybe every Bitcoin podcast should be a 501c3 itself too.
I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure ChatGPT can help me find some ways
to not give any money to the IRS.
So let's see.
I think it's an interesting idea.
I think what's different is kind of the role of the podcaster
to go solicit people to support them, in my opinion.
and um you know the why this works for bitcoin development is that we know that developers
are super autistic and they're not very good at talking to people they're not really good at
convincing anybody of anything like they they walk into a sales pitch and they start talking about why
their c++ code is better than the other guys and why they're important and starting to get into all
these intricate details on computer code and and the person looking at them it's just like wow this
is like i'm ready for a nap this is like talking to dr adam back or something but um i think that
like we have a lot of these tools for podcasters to be able to uh get funding i think it's the hard
part is just building the market for it and giving a compelling sales pitch like you've got geyser
you've got which people have raised a significant amount of money on you've got fountain uh you've
got just the the podcasting 2.0 ecosystem in general with all these other applicants you know
doodads that let you receive bitcoin you've got nost or like the the tools really are there like
you need you need to buy a microphone you can't afford it you need a computer you can't afford it
and go throw up a geyser fund um because it's your job to be like a salesperson you know and
pitch the market uh so i think it's a little bit different um i mean it is an interesting idea but
i think um like i wouldn't make fun of anybody you know if they wanted to make that i do think
like to do the 501c3 and support bitcoin podcasters but what i do think
is important for individuals that have a lot of money and a lot of stake in bitcoin
to realize the importance of bitcoin podcasts and realize the importance of this ecosystem
like you the the mechanisms are there to to fund us um and it can be in it and in creative
ways in very creative
times.
There's so much program.
There's so many opportunities. The opportunities
is there's tons of them
and you're
right.
It's kind of on you to
solicit and
explain to people why they should
spend their hard-earned sacks supporting
your podcast. There's a lot of
podcasts. Why should they support just because you
talk about Bitcoin? They should support your podcast.
No, you've got to pitch them.
or create good enough content where they,
you inspire them to come to you with an idea.
That's kind of what you should be doing.
And, you know, you could do a 501c3.
You could do your own, you know, cashew bin.
You could do your, you know, you could,
everybody create your own circular economy.
And, you know, if it gets big enough,
then go tell the government that, you know,
you think you try to get one of those exemptions.
Maybe you try to like grandfather in the file.
I don't know, but start small.
You don't, you don't necessarily have to go file for a tax number just to start a podcast.
Yeah.
But you know, that's what the Canadian Bitcoin guys did.
That's what they were telling us now.
They were they they did it too early and it just it too much paperwork You wait till you need to you can hire a Jewish lawyer to do the paperwork for you yeah that just common sense yeah i will say you know ron and i are very committed
to this ecosystem and i think you can see it because we're we're all over the podcast app and
we're all over nostrils app and people um and i think that's like one of the ways that you know
for podcasters that really care about the value for value ecosystem like part of it is being an
example and showing people why the ecosystem is important and how to engage in it uh because
you know i'm sick of plebslop and like i think the dynamic of running a value for value media
company is um you know your your content is the product at the end of the day instead of just uh
you know trying to promote uh pleb slop to get the biggest amount of views to to sell your sponsor
on on a higher stake and you know get conversions for you know selling product because then you just
become a marketing agency for uh a lot of other people's stuff um but yeah it's uh i mean there
there's a lot of different approaches to this and i think the cool thing is that you know people will
try different ideas and have success and we you know need to pay attention to where people are
being successful uh the like appreciate innovation appreciate taking risks try new things uh and uh
you know kind of adapt to those areas of success but the you know the value for value ecosystem
isn't new there's a lot of people that uh um yeah but anyways yeah let's get to the fountain
boost i think we're all kind of approaching this hard stop really quick uh i wanted to blast or we
did get some zaps on uh zap stream we got uh avi burra says uh rare to be on a live stream with
three ai generated voices uh that's a callback that's a callback right there that's that's great
yeah sovereign zapped i was on uh brain and carpalus's podcast recently uh thank you sovereign
walker you zapped it's a tick coin forever od 40 hpw zapped 210 sats sazal zapped 2100 sats
said miller light eric can't meme zapped 6969 sat said i'm retarded eric he's the man
yeah we i had a whole like text conversation uh in the chat with uh eric he's got some humility
if you're retarded just admit it it's uh it's it's a great spot to be in um but yeah our last
show that we did was with one of my favorite uh podcasters david bennett this guy has been at it
for a long time since 2018 uh i thought it was great conversation talking about a lot of similar
stuff that we talked about today about the value for value ecosystem uh nostor all sorts of stuff
uh anybody listening i'd highly encourage you to go check out his show bitcoin and
it's a it's a great bitcoin news show uh no pleb slop associated uh but our first boost is
fundamentals for 10 101 sats is another excellent behind the podcast great run of pioneers uh
yeah are you familiar with uh fundamentals walker i i don't know if i am
maybe i've been a gotta see if i follow him on noster
yeah he's on there he uh he wrote the book uh bitcoin for institutions so he's essentially
trying to teach people how to paper bitcoin uh responsibly you're a tyler you know he left the
uh you know the high-flying finance world new york city life uh to he has five podcasts now
so he's got the back on the chain podcast rock paper bitcoin he's got a math where he teaches
It's like a podcast for you.
I like lectures for mathematics.
He's got the Fundamentals of Fundamentals podcast.
I know him.
He does sound coffee with Otis Bittmeier.
So, yeah, active podcaster.
He's always podcasting.
He's got a lot of interesting thoughts.
But, yeah, thank you, Fundamentals, for those 10,000 saps.
I just followed him on Noster.
He wasn't following me yet, though, so I don't feel as bad about not being aware.
So that's good.
The next one is from a late stage hodl.
Big supporter, 5,000 stats.
This episode was full of excellent quotes from David.
First of all, I want to address that he accidentally said Bitcaster,
which is something I was thinking about lately instead of saying Bitcoin podcaster.
Imagine how many extra bitcasts you can squeeze in during your 40 hours per week.
You didn't have to say the full Bitcoin podcaster term.
Another quote, I wake up and look at Twitter and I'm in a bad mood.
Wake up at an Oscar, I'm neutral.
This quote was the best.
If the first thing you see in the morning is penis, daughter, nothing, birder announcements,
then you become the nothing birder.
these are great these are great uh ideas late stage huddle uh i don't i i understand the logic
of bitcaster over bitcoin podcaster but there's something about the vibe that i just i i could be
wrong i just don't feel it right now but i do like where you're at with the uh with the trying
to be more efficient with our language so we can get more signal into our bitcoin podcast um wink I was kind of making a joke when i right when i remarked on the the nostril thing and the way it makes you feel but i starting to think you right i thought it
was just a bad marketing tagline to go like you feel nothing when you log on to an oster that's
the way it should be but that is the way it should be you shouldn't you should get your you should get
your your vibes from your coffee or your you know whatever the sunlight walk not from turning on your
phone in the morning right um yeah they say i will agree thanks you know but caster just feels
like trying to rebrand uh sats to bits to me maybe that one could be workshopped a little bit but
i feel like bitcoin podcasters it's a steam position it's important
yeah some some words are worth saying the full word you know it's worth it it commands the
respect yeah totally do you ever do you ever hang out with the people that boost your podcast walker
uh yeah actually like i mean at bitcoin at bitcoin conferences like there's i've had
like a shocking amount of people support the the show and one of the honestly the coolest things
about starting a bitcoin podcast is going to bitcoin conferences having random people come
up to you that you then like have a beer with or you know hang out with for a while that are like
hey, I really like your podcast.
Like, man, as a Bitcoin podcaster,
that's the only thing you want to hear.
Like, that's literally it.
You just want to hear somebody like,
hey, I really like your podcast.
I found it valuable.
I sent you a Zap on Fountain or a Zap on Noster.
Like, that's all you could ever ask for
as a Bitcoin podcaster.
So yeah, it's very humbling too.
It's like, wow, here's somebody in the flesh
who's giving me some of their 40 hours per week.
Let's go ahead and have a beer together.
like that's just a it's a it's a cool experience when you can do it in the in the meat space right
totally yeah i think it's uh it's important to hang out with your boosters it's important to uh
hang out with them in the group chats uh stuff like that i think is uh it's just excellent like
i love hanging out with these guys uh i think i've talked to most of these boosters even today
so far or actually i haven't talked to late stage today yet but talk to fundamentals and uh this
next one two angry cunts um i gotta start a group chat for my podcast i guess that's i'm kind of
behind in that regard i suppose yeah guy swan did this a long time ago i used to uh be a subscriber
to him and uh the audio not that was a good group chat on telegram i think it's a
yeah it's a good time you concoct memes together with your listeners um two angry cunts podcast
2220 sats truth is like the sun you can shut it out for a time but it ain't going away
elvis presley an honest conversation without risk of catching syphilis well done fellas
and remember what elvis said uh you know elvis
was an incredible singer he's like one of the best singers of all time
super underrated in my opinion like a lot of people like elvis but i don't think they uh
fully appreciate how good he is you ever listen to elvis
of course he's the king right but you're right gone too soon also you know too many too many such
cases i think that's part of what makes him so good though is you know these people die before
they get old and uh and lose their skill sets like there's a problem a lot of singers try to
go for too long uh well this died on throne he died on the toilet then that i don't i it god forbid
but you know i guess the worst thing for me would not be going out on the podcast chair in the
podcast studio amen um the lesson was from daniel daniel's uh he's big over on nostri he uh he
helped us out with satirize the system and uh and then he's at the conference i did to see him in
boost uh really getting the conversation especially the part about how noscar is good for your mental
health there you go people resonated with that one i wonder if people's mental health on twitter's
gonna get better now that the government shut down the feds might not be working
let's hope so i hope they stay shut down for as long as possible
yeah i hope so too those guys suck
rev huddle yeah fuck rev huddle uh or wait yeah daniel's a good guy he's a good follow on
he's a he's a he's very active on noster for sure uh rev huddle 721 sats bitcoin and
and is how i stay in the loop essential listening for the 40 hpw yeah i think the thing that i like
about bitcoin and is it has a little bit more emphasis on permaculture and agriculture so it's
got a you hear about topics that are kind of important like the food supply is pretty important
but you don't hear that discussed on a lot of bitcoin podcasts uh you hear about the feds
with all the ranchers and you know killing all the chickens or you know whatever they're up to
all the nonsense.
Next one is from Shadrack.
Long time fan.
They don't expect us to get them back and save
as many as we can.
That's exactly how pioneers win.
Hashtag 40 hours per week.
And yes, Shadrack is a
notable pioneer for sure.
Yeah.
Big fan of Shadrack.
God's death.
237 sat says, thank you, gentlemen.
Well, thank you, God's death.
You probably know this next one Pies Pies Got two from Pies 121 sat each First one i see so many people once held fond opinions of his fuck boy clowns now oh his people he used to really respect he sees them as fuck boy clowns
now hashtag pioneers hashtag 30 hours per week bitcoin flex emoji mushroom emoji the next one
pre-listen boost there we go we need to get some uh like some pre-workout but it's like a drink it's
like a pre-podcast a pre-boost uh a few of my favorite bitcoin podcasters in one show let's
fucking go hashtag 40 hours per week yeah i mean that's an interesting one i i don't know what i
think of the the pre-boost or pre-show listening boost i feel like that's tipping your waitress
before you get the food you know what i mean it could go or like tipping your bartender before
you know a night at a wedding or something like i always tip bartenders before i get drinks if i'm
like if it's a wedding situation even if it's an open bar because it's like hey just want you to
know i appreciate you i've been a bartender many years in my life and uh i also want you to bring
me drinks very fast when i come up here and ignore any of the fat uncles that are going to try and
you know sit and wait in the line there so i support the pre-boost just throwing it out there
all right i think he convinced me with that argument good good that's that's an interesting
life hack that's uh it works every time oh yeah
south side dave uh 100 sats says a pioneer of culture nazis and courtards having sex fixes this
check can't argue with that last one is army and btc on board 100 sats three thumbs up
for why'd you like the content bro
yeah well i'm feeling optimistic uh
but you know i i think the the the key thing that you talked about here on this show
was just not really caring a whole lot about what the peanut gallery thinks and having a few people
in your life that you care about i think that's some of the the best advice anybody could ever
give anybody in this world that we live in those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't
mind it's it will get it will help you uh see things more clearly totally well walker i really
appreciate you coming on i also really appreciate you having us on that was a blast that was great
let's do it again guys we need more bitcoin podcast crossover episodes we really do
i agree it's um i mean it's kind of what like those uh like the the rogan cabal did
he created his little uh his little clique of podcasters i mean they're all lame they all suck
alex jones i was watching alex jones last night man that guy sucks so hard
um you know trump's about to stop start a global war escalated in order to save the world from the
globalists apparently that's where alex jones is at and all the surveillance and stuff he's
warning about but yeah um so rod needs to run uh rod you got any closing thoughts before we sign
off now team the great lives revival let's go bring it back for october
Talk to you guys later
See you guys
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