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Transaction fees are hitting all-time lows.

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Bitcoin is hitting all-time highs.

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It is the summer of paper Bitcoin.

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Runes and ordinals have nearly been forgotten,

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yet there are still a handful of people who are refusing to forget that they exist.

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There's one man who refuses to forget about ordinals.

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For years, he walked amongst the Bitcoin maximalists,

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like a wolf in sheep's clothing,

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only to reveal that he was a jpeg shitcoiner now he spends his time podcasting about bitcoin with

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his new media company block space media in partnership with the broccoli haircut without

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a broccoli haircut will foxley here to explain to us what is going on is the man the myth the

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legend charlie spears how you doing tonight oh i'm fantastic if will gets to be broccoli then

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i'm chart and uh maybe i'm asparagus and my name is asparagus fierce there's your like dumb intro

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little effort jokes for the episode yeah charlie thanks for coming on if the you started this

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media company called block space media and that is what you intended to take over the block space

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with your ordinal spam um how much how much do you invest in the in the ordinals uh

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uh,

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taking over the block space and then it all like how,

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basically how much does your taproot wizard?

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I know those have gone way down in value and just wondering what the,

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what the return was.

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I'm probably,

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you know,

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the tax man is going to come after me,

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but like I'm up man.

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And you know why?

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It's because I don't really buy these things.

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I just have fun.

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And I like,

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I,

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I,

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I mint stuff that my friends do and my friends are all smart and they're

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brilliant.

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And they figured out how to give me a low cost basis.

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If you know how shitcoins work, insiders make all the money.

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I've spent a decade making myself an insider.

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So yeah, it's been great.

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I've been having a blast extracting from the Bitcoin ecosystem.

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And I'm finally ready to, now that I've made my bag, go into podcasting and assert my opinions on the unwilling listeners.

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A tale as old as time.

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it's looking at podcasting is going to be the new way to become an insider again

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was it ever not i mean podcasts there's there's like a there's very much we're a hierarchical

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society and podcasters are at the very top the builders and the developers are at the bottom

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they serve us their entire existence is to come up with things for us to shit on

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well yeah i that is uh you know on bitcoin twitter we romanticize the bitcoin podcaster

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but to be a little more serious we learned in the past six months or so especially with the election

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and post-election that being a podcaster gets you a seat at the table i mean you've got

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the vice president the president the secretary of state heads of state rfk jr at your beck and call

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to be on your podcast it gets you it's like you're a main man you now have access to you know the

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other captains like you've got you've got a pension so to speak not necessarily but if you

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have you set up your podcast on on fountain you could have a royalties pension so many possibilities

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but it's a seat at the table yeah rob but i've already extracted enough from bitcoiners do i do

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I need another $200 a month from Fountain? I mean, I've already made my bag. I've forced them to buy

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my JPEGs. I'm forcing them to store my JPEGs on their nodes. Like what more could I possibly want?

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Well, the next step as a podcaster is to get a advisory role of some sort at a paper Bitcoin

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company and then now you get to extract money from the boomers yeah that is they are the final

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exit liquidity um that's why if you noticed i changed my profile picture on twitter recently

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um i've i had a profile picture which i've had for over a decade now and i updated it for the

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modern era for paper bitcoin summer i had oody wortimer um make me a one-of-one jpeg with me

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in a suit and so i put on the suit uh and nobody know nobody cared who i was until i put on the

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suit and so now um now i'm uh i'm i'm in the market so if you have uh like a steven lubka

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type position at your company i would love to uh take it through an aspiring suit coiner yeah you

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don't it's dress for the job you want not the job you have yeah you want to be the net yeah i mean

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Dude, I was talking about this the other day.

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This is an ambitious one.

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I don't know if you're interested in it, but somebody's going to be interested in it.

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I think the right podcaster could turn Grayscale Bitcoin Trust, GBTC, right around.

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Now it's an ETF.

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Now it doesn't have the premium problem, the discount problem.

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It's not the closed-end fund anymore.

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Now you could turn GDTC into the next Fidelity Bitcoin ETF or like the next, you know, MetaPlanet, one of those.

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You've got a good look at the – yeah, I mean Barry Silbert hasn't been on a Bitcoin podcast in a long time.

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Just think, you know, Barry, if you're listening, I know you're a loyal listener of the show.

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Imagine what we could do with a grayscale under DCG Bitcoin podcast.

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We could get that premium back up.

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We could get that MNAV at 150% again.

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That was cool back in the day.

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Barry can stick to doing what he does best, rehypothecation.

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And he let a podcaster do the public relations, the front-facing.

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Let a Bitcoin podcast, somebody like Lupka, somebody even better,

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and you just rehypothecate.

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That's all you got to do.

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Yeah. If you could only like stake podcasts and then you could somehow stake your podcast to get yield on it.

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I don't know. I'm spitballing. I don't know. I'll leave that. I don't want to give away all my secrets on this show.

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If there's somebody that I would be confident in that could figure out how to stake podcasts like you're describing, it would probably be BitDigital.

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Yeah, I mean, they're making a big move into Ethereum.

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This is quite a trade.

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Out of Bitcoin, into Ethereum, like it's 2019 all over again.

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It's the trade of the cycle.

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The shitcoiners, they always come back to Bitcoin Podcast.

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They're the prodigal children.

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They'll always come home.

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they'll realize uh they have to come back eventually as as a value extractor professional

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you're a credentialed value extractor from the ecosystem what do you worry that solana is going

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to steal some of that boomer liquidity by basically we we talk about this on the time of our podcast

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the boomers love to just gamble their social security away in vegas and we saw that we were

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in vegas you know just a few months ago i was amazed at how many boomers were there just fucking

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gambling there's also are you worried that solana mean coin community is going to steal that

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liquidity are you going to be able to capture that in paper bitcoin or in ordinals or some

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in some way on bitcoin uh that is i'm glad you got right to it that is the the problem that

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everyone's trying to solve for is how to keep solana from taking all the boomers money and i

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have bad news for you. It's a permissionless world and you can't stop them. You can only build

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a better product. So if we can just figure out how to make Bitcoin's block times a hundred thousand

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times faster and hire a CEO and make him retarded, then I think we may have a fighting chance.

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I think you're underestimating Pleditor. He's got a potential to stop him.

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You brought his name up first. If I were going to hire a CEO of Bitcoin,

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i would hire planetor you need someone who's kind of got it but still like has giant holes missing

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from their head um yeah i mean he's he checks all the boxes so i think i don't think the solution

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to this problem of solana is why is a technical one and i want your reaction i think

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that we need to inspire the broccoli haircuts because they're the ones building on solana

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The broccoli haircuted zoomers are the rebellious.

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They're better AI than their boomer parents and they're the annoying millennial and Gen X older brothers.

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They're telling them Bitcoin only Bitcoin, not crypto Bitcoin only blah, blah, blah.

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Don't be a scammer. You know, there's they're sticking and they're trolling and they're better than they're going to make a lot more money.

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There's so much better at technology than us.

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And if we can inspire more at like the virtuous broccoli air cuts, like Will Fox, like Dylan McClare.

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We used to have Will Clemente.

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We lost him.

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He's with the freaking Solana assholes.

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But I think we just have to win over the broccoli air cuts.

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What happened to Will?

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I thought he was one of us.

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I, you know, he was.

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He had a couple.

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Brown pal dangled those scarves in front of him.

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And he went right to him.

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He went too deep into on-chain analytics.

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because that was the hot thing back in like 19 and 20 was the on-chain boys willy woo yeah yeah

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willy woo uh dylan and uh and uh and will and all we got is dylan still willy's kind of

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ascended into his own category but dylan stayed with us and he's actually he's played the game

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the best probably the second best that there ever was second to sailor himself is dylan i mean who

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was the this time last year what was the thing is like he was making moves he's gonna be the sailor

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of japan um the saver if you will and uh so he yeah he's gonna be he's already like uh on his uh

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third or fourth like major extraction event you gotta hand it to him kids got it do you do you

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think the platter is like it's worried that dylan might make a play for nintendo like if dylan

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mcclare because manaphylian announced the other day that they're going to let their accretion of

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their bitcoin uh on their balance sheet grow and then they're going to go out and they're going to

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find productive companies that they can acquire so they can build their empire do you think

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nintendo is in their crosshairs and if the old mcclare gets control over distribution the nintendo

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switch plenitor's permissionless access to video games is in jeopardy and do you think he's worried

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about that.

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an existential threat If you think about it Dylan is in Japan which is we downstream culturally in japan japan makes all the predators favorite movies i mean think of what

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happens we'll never get an akira sequel if like if dylan gets his mighty hands in there and he

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starts owning all the anime i mean he's we're we'll be relegated to only like you know we'll

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only be able to play like death stranding one through ten because dylan will force us to play

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hideo kojima games the rest of our lives like he's gonna it is uh it's the worst form of

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colonialism and dylan's going to uh he's going to extract all that he can all the cultural and

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monetary extraction meta planet will be a dry husk of a hotel company by the time he's done with it

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yeah exactly planetor wanted to go colonize and and take all the japanese girls for his

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girlfriends himself and and dylan's going in and stealing all that hot anime girls online think

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dylan is hot and not pletitor now and it's just it's crushing them that's tough that's a tough one

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yeah i mean it's the the window's not closing if pletitor were to go now to japan and were to make

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his bid he could probably he could probably get a few numbers uh maybe he could wake up a few um

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what do they call those people who get like who live inside never go outside again in japan

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there's like shut-ins oh yeah probably wake a few of those sleepers up and um bring them back

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to the united states and yeah i think they're religious people they call them monks oh bitcoin

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maxis yeah no the japanese people that never come out yeah they're hikikomoris that's what they are

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those are the bushido those are the bushido bitcoiners

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they're too sucked in on twitter and on the roster yeah well there is a book called the

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bushido of bitcoin right oh we're aware hell yeah oh yeah it's by my favorite um failed uh shark

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tank uh star um i forget his name how uh how satisfying is it when you walk into a room because

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you're a pretty tall guy so anybody that's met charlie's a tall he's a he's taller than you

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might have expect and the bushido samurai warrior of bitcoin uh statski who you whom you speak of

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is uh you know he's average average height for a bitcoiner you know so five yeah yeah um how

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satisfying is that when you walk in like you and coin join christmas like fucking tower over him

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i don't want to be sensitive because you know uh i'm not gonna lie there's an inverse

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relationship between uh bravado and swaggering on elon's x platform and height it's an inverse

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relationship but i mean look at udi no he's i'm just i'll give him some shit um you know like

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hoddle magoo i don't even i don't know i've never met him so no i don't think i've met him

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so maybe one of you guys is hoddle magoo i have no idea he was at our event in vegas oh yeah

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i was gonna be there i just i was uh unfortunately kind of drunk um at a different event and it was

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really difficult to get away from the teeming hordes of shit shit coiners who were coming to

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asking for alpha yeah honomagoo he uh he was one of the wrestlers

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it was pretty cool to see him there he came out of a trash can yeah he was dressed in green

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he came up to me he introduced himself and he told me not to tell anybody

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but i think it's probably safe now well there's a lot of wrestlers there and if we don't need

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just know which one we're talking about yeah it could have been any of the wrestlers

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no i uh i i will say i uh as much as i talk shit i mean i generally this is sarcastic hat off i

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genuinely love meeting um my my online combatants in person i uh i do genuinely think that if i

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just get a beer with somebody i can at least like you know chat with them a bit i actually had a

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nice conversation with luke dash jr about a year ago um talking about um non-bitcoin things if you

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can believe that so did you guys argue about who the right pope was actually we talked about

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it was uh it was actually a religious conversation i was asking him for reference for like

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recommendations for parishes i should visit i'm like no i don't like that one that much because

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there this yeah this or that so um yeah that's funny oh hell yeah so that is that is a great one

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like i i have a friend and he he's one of those guys who goes to like the board was like like a

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like thunder mifflin you go like the paper convention he's just going around to these

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different conventions like a consultant type guy and he goes to all these like regional airports

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and he's uh so he loves talking about regional airports he's got opinions on like the avansville

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you know illinois regional airport the toledo and regional airport he knows the best restaurants

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he wants to talk about them like airport yeah and i feel like that would be that would be like luke

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luke would be like he knows all the parishes he's like these ones these ones are super like

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blasphemous stay away from that yeah yeah he had like an app he had like a database on his phone

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he's like oh northeast oklahoma like pull it up and he like found and i was like oh i'm impressed

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um and yeah so that was uh yeah i actually got a specific rap so um yeah i wouldn't be surprised

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if i if i go there i'm going to take a picture i'm going to figure out a way to send him a message

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uh out around him uh he blocked me so i can't message him directly anymore but i'll be like

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hey i did it luke i actually went and what did you what what was it that got you blocked by luke

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I tease and troll Luke a lot, but he's never blocked me.

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So I've never said anything directly in reply to him, which is accusatory.

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In fact, it's very rare that I go toe-to-toe in a thread against someone.

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I think that's just kind of a losing battle, pigs in the mud kind of thing.

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So I prefer indirect potshots or criticisms outside of tagging people.

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Maybe it's a pedantic thing.

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I think it's more strategic. Like, um, I just want to, you know, I'll, I do think he, it had,

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he says insane things that I really, really disagree with. And I really, really, uh,

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and more, actually I'm more dislike the, the worship of him. Um, so that's actually my bigger

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issue. So, you know, I will, I used to not be as condescending cause I kind of enjoyed his like,

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you know, this kind of weird, crazy, zany rapport. But, you know, post-filter war,

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a lot of people who had somehow refrained from blocking me did block me, I think, because

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I did get out and go into the arena and give my opinions on things.

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And so, yeah, I didn't come across as neutral on that. Weirdly enough, the JPEGs didn't, like,

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seemed to, like, wouldn't get me any true enemies. It was the filter discussion that really broke

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the camel's back and got me blocked by a lot of people which is unfortunate but oh well they're

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lost they don't they can't get all the hot jpeg alpha anymore i think one thing that's clear at

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this point is that luke when he does die hopefully he doesn't get martyred but he will be sainted

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probably by the catholic church or his his hard fork one um i don't know which one but he'll

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definitely be saying it but yeah i mean one of the things i really disagree with luke on

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which i think is really important so he you know he's got a strong stance against pornography

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and i understand like his stance like from a religious standpoint and why a lot of people

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believe that and i respect it i respect their belief on it uh but where it gets really problematic

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is the definition his definition of what pornography is because he says pornography

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fees anything that is sexually arousing. So if that's the case, then Dennis Porter would have to

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be banned, which would be super problematic for me. Well, it's like that senator in the 1990s,

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or maybe 1970s, when there was a famous debate on the floor of the Senate, the American Senate,

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on indecency laws. And when the senator, the conservative, very, very conservative religious

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senator was asked to define pornography he said i don't know i just know it when i see it um i feel

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that that's the same way you know that we've that's we'd have a modern version of that and

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yeah if i look at dennis you know you just change one letter of his first name and all of a sudden

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it's a flagrant uh reference yeah so we've been following the communist nazi uh scuffle or

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war or whatever you want to call it you know fairly closely i had to learn what the opera turn was

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um can you unlearn what the opera turn is so we don't because we don't have to talk i'm just

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kidding well i don't really want to talk about that well i guess so it seems like the cormier

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is one it seemed like the cormier is one that the nazis are scattering it's very you know similar

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where when the Soviets were rolling through Berlin

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and the Nazis were just getting slaughtered

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and all the leadership escaped to Argentina.

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I feel like that's the moment that we're in right now.

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Yeah.

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The Nazis tried to invade Russia in the summer

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and everyone knows you just don't do that.

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both sides suffered

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just like World War II

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a lot of people died on both sides

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and so

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it's not just a zero sum game

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it's a negative sum game

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everybody's worse off for it

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because as we know

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Corpunism always wins

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you can't contain it

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and a policy of Corpunism containment

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will just lead us to another

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useless war in Vietnam

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um remember the her are the biggest losers on each side of the debate like you said there was

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you know a lot of losers as well in world war ii on each side of the debate i mean you've got

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grasshead mechanic i don't i think that he's been a big winner short term i don't know i mean but

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long term there's no way his family got the attention they deserved during that time me

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I was just looking at the amount of screed he wrote across every conceivable platform, and there was no way that he was being a family man during that time.

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I think he may have posted during church, too, sometimes.

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So that's not okay.

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Does Luke know this?

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I don't think.

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I suspect that Luke is the only real Catholic at Ocean Interesting He pretty clear what he thinks about fake Catholics worshiping the pedo king pope

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I think the Corbynists, what we learned, is that they need influencers.

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I mean, Bitcoin treasury companies have influencers.

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Bitcoin core dads need their own influence.

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It's like Luke got his in Mechanic.

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That's something that Richard Greaser pointed out.

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but they need their own they at least need pr they they're not good enough they need to explain

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themselves they need to be going on podcasts and they're not doing that and so it leads to

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conspiracy theories and it leads to justin bachelor and his conspiracy theories like an

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example of this is an example of this is i don't think any of us realize that gloria zhao was hot

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until very recently when she went on a podcast yeah she went on a podcast like she was

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stunning are you sure are you sure was immediately on the core side

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yeah are you sure she was hot or that she was just next to shinobi

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well the odd girls think shinobi's hot that was in this podcast

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i mean yeah i think we should run with this narrative that the shinobi is an amplifier

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for women's hotness levels on podcasts that'll help him land more hot women on his podcast for

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sure but shinobi amplifies hot women that's for sure we can see that yeah yeah exactly no she's

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genuinely hot uh i think if if we could just um sexualize core developers both men and women

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and everything in between um then uh that's the first step towards healing and for core finally

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regaining like cultural control because as we know sex sells sex merges prs um i'm trying to

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yeah sex gets bit numbers that's it's time to it's time to objectify ava chow i'm i'm not a huge fan

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of uh i'm not you know when i say a woman's hot i'm not i'm not trying to sexualize her in any way

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i just you know i found her you know like she was good at communicating she was like you know

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physically represented well she seemed really smart like she knew what she's talking about

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uh so i i mean like i think there's a there's a distinction like you know my opinion is you know

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we shouldn't be sexualizing cordes but i think at the same time we shouldn't be going on the

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opposite end of the spectrum where we're uh expecting the cordevs to not have sex and not

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to be sexual they don't have to wear yeah burkus when they go on podcast

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yeah i mean that's how that's isn't that how prs get merged because you have to have multiple people

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like sign on and that's like the currency of the of the core you could say um that

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and i don't know if this has ever come up but do you think in in in such an instance

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that if a husband needed his wife to to sign a pr to merge it can can the wife

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say no to her husband or does she have to to approve the pull request i think it depends

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on you know how not legally but what should she do

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in my my views is uh my views uh one cpu one vote and by cpu i mean person so everybody gets a vote

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um yeah doesn't have to be an economic though your wife doesn't have to have a profitable

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but she could have actually an unprofitable business she could be running her own podcast

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talking about taylor swift or girl stuff and costing you money but but see that's because

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those podcasts make way more money than all of us i mean you and i we're all spinning our wheels

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trying to change the world with super hard techno money and they're over there uh you know singing

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taylor swift songs and printing uh cash out the wazoo so jokes on us that's a good point

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um i forgot what my next question what's richard go so where where would you rank yourself like if

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If you were to give yourself a military title and ranking in the Kormenist side, where would you have positioned yourself in this recent battle?

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Hired gun.

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So don't even have a rank.

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I'm like Blackwater contracted out to do the dirty work.

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um i go and i do those things that the u.s can't uh you know be on record acknowledging like jason

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born basically i'm off the record not even you know no trace of me having fought my way up the

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ranks um yeah they're not shame mercenary yeah mercenary gun for hire like the wagner group

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exactly Wagner group yeah look what happened to them they got fucked dude

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Putin uh they tried to defect from Putin so uh yeah

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I think that was one of the more interesting stories of last year

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I don't think any of us have any idea what happened with that

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do you see that yeah do you see that as a potential for you at some point to defect

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from to have that moment where you you march on moscow you you march against peter todd

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i think he would be okay this analogy breaks down because i don't know anyone who hates

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russia more than peter todd so um i think we'd have to march i mean peter todd maybe it'd be

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like having to march on like palestine because he yeah because he'd he'd he'd be well i'm not

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sure which side he's he's on but he's very very strongly on one side um be like marching on

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tel aviv exactly yeah exactly oh man i'm gonna make too many enemies from this everything i say

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is uh not my opinion that i'm just uh so i'm curious charlie yeah you people they have their

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pronouns on their like twitter profile or in their twitter header will say you know father

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christian patriot magda entrepreneur you know whatever where in your pronoun list where do you

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list journalist because we're a very proud credential journalist and i'm wondering is that

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is like for me journalism is before god but not not everybody is you is is zealous about it where

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where's that in your stack oh it's pretty high up there um it's not the highest i would say

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video games are probably highest for me.

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Journalism's great, but

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I'm on several hundred hours of a satisfactory playthrough.

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And that's way more gratifying to me than

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exposing all of the

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misanthropy across the Bitcoin ecosystem.

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and uh so uh yeah i mean journalists are pretty high so it probably wouldn't make it into a twitter

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bio but i can link you know my my company block space there and you can infer that at some level

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maybe you know on monday wednesdays and fridays i play a journalist and um i do try to break and

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cover some stories have you ever beaten battletoads no isn't that that really expensive

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video game or something that's like hard to acquire or yes it's the it's the premier game on the on the

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Sega Genesis yeah uh no I'm not a console gamer man I'm a PC gamer which is actually if I wanted

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to like my those are my pronouns pc g-a-m-e those yeah so p c gamer is kind of like the bitcoin

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maximalist of video gamers right it's like the you know you kind of condescend when you hear i

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you play the nintendo switch all right all right buddy i'm a pc gamer is that accurate i like i like

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i like pc no it's like the thing i'd like if you're a gamer long enough or if you're in crypto

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long enough eventually become a bitcoin maxi because you start hating everything else and so

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same the same thing with pcs you know you're you get old and your hands get all arthritis-y and

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the only you know thing you can do is like hold a mouse and um yeah if you ever seen a pc gamer

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like fortnite player go up against a console fortnite player no it's not even a contest

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pc gamers dumpster on console gamers i'm sorry if you guys are console gamers

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casuals it's fine i'm a journalist

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um you you you admitted to us i don't remember if we were recording or not but that you don't

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listen to 40 hours of bitcoin podcast per week because you don't have time because you're gaming

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so instead of listening to 40 hours of bitcoin podcast per week like what are some of the best

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games maybe over your gaming career that you spent 40 hours you know per week for extended

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periods of time playing like what was like your experience coming up to the gaming you're a gaming

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veteran you know you were the trenches you've battled it out yeah yeah i mean that's the whole

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reason we got ethereum is because world of warcraft wouldn't give vitalik his items outside

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of game so world of warcraft uh galvanized it's the reason we have shit coiners really ultimately

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and so i did play wow back in the day i'm clean now um now i'm just more of a variety gamer whether

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it be classics like the halo series to modern stuff like um uh fortnite or apex but you can

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usually catch me playing multiplayer games um because i don't have fun unless i can beat someone

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so you'll find me playing maybe some legal legends or watching some league or uh yeah competitive

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games cs go do you get uh do you enjoy when you can just uh you can mark some broccoli haircuts

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video games but you show up but you show up in the pc world over here like boom boom done that

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big headshot yeah I mean I wish you could see this I've got you know 240 hertz refresh rate screen

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I got side monitors so I can respond to slack messages while I playing um yeah I uh I got the whole kit man I got a very low latency mouse this is the same mouse that Shroud uses for those of you who follow Broccoli Hair Twitch streamers

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and yeah man

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I'm a gamer

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I should talk about this more on Bitcoin Twitter

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I feel like Bitcoin Twitter

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is too

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it's just too stale

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of a conversation

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we need different things

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I will actually take the sarcasm hat off for a second

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and shout out to

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and say I actually my most

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the things I'm most excited about in Bitcoin

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are actually Bitcoin gaming projects

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this is actually me being totally serious here

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I'm actually a huge financial supporter

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of like these different Bitcoin gaming projects

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namely there's this Rust server called Orange

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and they have

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they like run pod

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so actually when I play Orange

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I listen to podcasts the whole time

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because they play podcasts in the game in like the main base it's like i'm a huge fan i support

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them on i unironically support them on geyser talk about them a lot so they've got there's

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some cool minecraft server like shout out to sovereign craft and then some other stuff too

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um yeah so uh uh yeah i took a bit of deviation there but i can't shout out my my gang over at

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orange enough like everybody's trying to freaking shoehorn a fucking token into a video game and

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some kind of like money thing to it but orange is like it's a fun ass game you don't have to care

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about bitcoin but you can care about it it's like that's the perfect thing so then you don't have to

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wear clothes either yeah you can be i should have i've been to the orange mart naked yeah nice i've

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done it it's kind of awkward we ran into tip nz naked in the game yeah they're they're uh the

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the best power couple in the whole bitcoin ecosystem move over carla and uh and uh whatever

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his name is you know move over um natalie and that other guy um uh yeah the the orange gaming

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couple they are the best what are some other uh power couples you got max and stacy you've got

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uh pierre and morgan you've got shinobi and d plus plus someday

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uh udi and lauren sykerman erin and casey erin and casey

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yeah yeah you've you got a lot of good power couples

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yeah um yeah i need to get a better hair we need we should do a power power couple power ranking

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sometime that would be that's actually brilliant idea if you want to if you want to do another

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work on that one with us we'll publish it we'll publish it block space block space

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top 10 power couples yeah power couple power ranking um who do you think has better hair you

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or you you just uh dismiss them as who's that other guy walker america one of the biggest

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bitcoin podcasters who do you think's got better hair you were walker

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uh a year ago he did but i bleached my hair recently and so i think it's cooler because

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i'm going for a surfer vibe um you look like your nickelback look at this photograph man

417
00:38:23,937 --> 00:38:30,197
yeah yeah people look like jack you know you do like a surfer which is cool uh there's a lot of

418
00:38:30,197 --> 00:38:36,217
surfing where where you live so that's great you know well you say that but oklahoma which i'm

419
00:38:36,217 --> 00:38:42,597
public that i'm from oklahoma oklahoma has uh this is true the most shoreline of any state

420
00:38:42,597 --> 00:38:46,397
so because we have all these man-made lakes they have all these weird nooks and crannies

421
00:38:46,397 --> 00:38:51,457
so yeah we have the most that's a very oklahoma thing to brag about yeah for sure

422
00:38:51,457 --> 00:38:58,237
it is yeah you gotta reach deep to brag about oklahoma that's for sure it's a it's it's great

423
00:38:58,237 --> 00:39:02,737
for autism it's like guess which uh guess which state has the most shoreline and they're like

424
00:39:02,737 --> 00:39:10,177
california duh and you're like actually actually actually it's oklahoma and you know what our state

425
00:39:10,177 --> 00:39:11,697
uh vegetable is

426
00:39:11,697 --> 00:39:23,457
the watermelon it's yeah so uh in oklahoma the watermelon is a vegetable apparently we voted it

427
00:39:23,457 --> 00:39:28,217
we literally voted on the shit like three or four years ago i don't know it was probably covid brain

428
00:39:28,217 --> 00:39:35,557
that got them all so charlie i did have uh one question i wanted to ask you um

429
00:39:35,557 --> 00:39:46,777
so block space got into some interesting uh controversy recently which one well the one

430
00:39:46,777 --> 00:39:54,037
that i remember was the uh the swan article so i was just curious if you think

431
00:39:54,037 --> 00:40:00,997
like i i'm a full believer in free speech and people's rights to opinions right

432
00:40:00,997 --> 00:40:07,857
but in the institution of journalism is there a place for anti-swanitism

433
00:40:07,857 --> 00:40:21,197
um uh we'll we'll try to take a neutral approach uh although it's it's hard to it's hard to deny

434
00:40:21,197 --> 00:40:29,477
that when a company has spurious personal lawsuits

435
00:40:29,477 --> 00:40:37,037
against people who are lower on the totem pole

436
00:40:37,037 --> 00:40:42,337
and you're trying to squeeze people for intellectual property

437
00:40:42,337 --> 00:40:44,617
that everyone in Bitcoin mining knows is pretty bullshit,

438
00:40:45,077 --> 00:40:49,497
sometimes you'll get a little report of scrutiny on it.

439
00:40:49,497 --> 00:40:54,517
So I will say some of my favorite people used to work at Swan.

440
00:40:57,817 --> 00:41:00,657
There's a lot of my favorite people who used to work at Swan.

441
00:41:01,677 --> 00:41:08,597
Do you think that – did you hear that Grok was yesterday, the day before?

442
00:41:08,677 --> 00:41:10,957
They had it shut down because of its anti-Swanathism.

443
00:41:10,957 --> 00:41:15,637
It was posting – it was just reposting Stoney Bits and tweets.

444
00:41:16,077 --> 00:41:17,197
We posted new tweets.

445
00:41:17,357 --> 00:41:19,397
It's anti-Swanathism to the max.

446
00:41:19,497 --> 00:41:23,957
It was like, oh, when you see a Bitcoin podcaster and he's showing this, it's like you might notice a pattern.

447
00:41:24,317 --> 00:41:25,137
It's swan.

448
00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:29,637
You know, it's like people were they they were folks and they had to shut Grok down.

449
00:41:29,757 --> 00:41:30,937
I think it was the right move.

450
00:41:30,937 --> 00:41:36,977
I don't think anti-swannism is appropriate on, you know, a public platform like this.

451
00:41:37,257 --> 00:41:42,217
Not that you can't have your own opinions, but anti-swannism is too far.

452
00:41:42,597 --> 00:41:47,557
Yeah. I mean, the only pattern I recognize was that Grok was being a little out of pocket yesterday.

453
00:41:47,557 --> 00:41:54,817
so i i agree with rod i i don't think there's a place for anti-swanism and journalism the

454
00:41:54,817 --> 00:42:03,157
the swans are our greatest allies in my opinion and you know you can't have you can't have um

455
00:42:03,157 --> 00:42:12,317
you can't have satire without something which is satirical so i mean you have to you have to

456
00:42:12,317 --> 00:42:19,037
give cory some recognition right like he did get demoted recently uh probably due to some

457
00:42:19,037 --> 00:42:24,357
anti-swanitism but he got demoted from being one of the one of pod comps four horsemen

458
00:42:24,357 --> 00:42:32,757
but prior to that he was the other three horsemen of pod comp dennis david

459
00:42:32,757 --> 00:42:41,437
cory mccormick but peter mccormick got demoted because he quit bitcoin and cory got demoted so

460
00:42:41,437 --> 00:42:50,797
uh jack mallers and jack dorsey have been promoted so it's now jack jack uh dennis and david but

461
00:42:50,797 --> 00:42:56,357
they but dennis is going down the stable coin route and now he might have to get demoted um

462
00:42:56,357 --> 00:43:03,737
but that's it you know yeah riddle me this uh hardcore nazi anti-spam pro stable coin

463
00:43:03,737 --> 00:43:08,857
where is that on the dnd alignment chart like that's that's gotta be all twisted here

464
00:43:08,857 --> 00:43:13,817
it's like the the old meme or it's like i think pot should be legal i think gay marriage should

465
00:43:13,817 --> 00:43:18,057
be legal and our own guns you know it's like it's sometimes it's dirty you keep those curveballs

466
00:43:18,057 --> 00:43:28,877
yeah yep i'm a i'm a socially uh socially liberal uh no that's conservative fiscally liberal

467
00:43:28,877 --> 00:43:37,757
yeah yeah exactly exactly yeah um where where do you follow the stable coin stuff

468
00:43:37,757 --> 00:43:45,037
is tether on tron going global is uh we were talking about the canada might end up on tether

469
00:43:45,037 --> 00:43:49,297
where what's going on with tether you were covering the lawsuits uh did you learn anything

470
00:43:49,297 --> 00:43:55,017
else like what is your mining okay that's right they're big in mining because tether mining it

471
00:43:55,017 --> 00:44:03,357
may be like one of the biggest stories in mining um i mean paulo was on the don't gruesome i mean

472
00:44:03,357 --> 00:44:09,637
bankless podcast yesterday. And he said, Tether is on track to be the biggest Bitcoin miner in the

473
00:44:09,637 --> 00:44:16,677
world. And you got to believe them. They're crypto native. They have infinite money in they have

474
00:44:16,677 --> 00:44:22,957
infinite money and a very lean decision making structure. So and they've got blackmail on

475
00:44:22,957 --> 00:44:30,217
everyone in the entire world because they're obviously somehow, you know, CIA, NSA, whatever,

476
00:44:30,217 --> 00:44:37,137
whatever they're Peter Thiel related according to Mark so you know they can it's the biggest story

477
00:44:37,137 --> 00:44:45,797
in mining so like um I don't have a lot of like scoops for you that story is um kind of in stasis

478
00:44:45,797 --> 00:44:51,877
if there's anything like new on the particular mining side um we'll report it but I will say like

479
00:44:51,877 --> 00:44:58,937
as it relates to their swan lawsuit they are suing swan in the UK court which is kind of difficult to

480
00:44:58,937 --> 00:45:05,137
figure out you have to submit like whole you have to file like petitions to get information which

481
00:45:05,137 --> 00:45:10,617
take like a 30 to 60 day turnaround time and that's a real Craig Wright move isn't it to sue

482
00:45:10,617 --> 00:45:19,157
him in the UK courts or is it not related to that at all I actually don't know that I that's a I

483
00:45:19,157 --> 00:45:23,477
actually don't know the details I'm not lead on this story I'm kind of just the cheerleader for

484
00:45:23,477 --> 00:45:31,397
the other real reporters at you know or my colleagues and um yeah i'm i'm actually i'd

485
00:45:31,397 --> 00:45:36,717
actually don't really i make a i kind of bear as a point of pride to be comically unfamiliar

486
00:45:36,717 --> 00:45:43,037
with the ways of the world whether it be like conventional legal stuff or like traffic stuff

487
00:45:43,037 --> 00:45:46,937
which is why the whole paper bitcoin thing is kind of mystifying to me because i'm like

488
00:45:46,937 --> 00:45:53,277
wait a second you mean i have to log into my fucking charles schwab in order to buy my favorite

489
00:45:53,277 --> 00:46:03,697
Bitcoin things. You've got to be kidding me. Yeah, I just can't like open up my aqua wallet and send

490
00:46:03,697 --> 00:46:13,937
lightning to somebody or tether and buy whatever I have to like actually have an IRA or some kind

491
00:46:13,969 --> 00:46:16,109
account. To me,

492
00:46:16,289 --> 00:46:16,629
you know,

493
00:46:17,309 --> 00:46:19,949
I kind of pride myself

494
00:46:19,949 --> 00:46:21,529
having not really

495
00:46:21,529 --> 00:46:23,869
been sued in the UK yet.

496
00:46:24,049 --> 00:46:25,929
So I don't really know the inner workings of it.

497
00:46:27,949 --> 00:46:29,649
Well, this is a real problem,

498
00:46:29,729 --> 00:46:31,769
which you're describing, which I've been

499
00:46:31,769 --> 00:46:33,069
tweeting about is

500
00:46:33,069 --> 00:46:35,889
it seems like we need to get paper

501
00:46:35,889 --> 00:46:37,549
Bitcoin on the blockchain somehow.

502
00:46:39,929 --> 00:46:40,669
I agree.

503
00:46:41,609 --> 00:46:42,929
It could be a BRC20.

504
00:46:43,969 --> 00:46:54,969
it couldn't be um one of the things that i love about your website and uh your outlet is you have

505
00:46:54,969 --> 00:46:59,649
the best ticker it goes across the top of your website and it's like got all the bitcoin light

506
00:46:59,649 --> 00:47:04,009
it's got all the paper bitcoin well it had all the paper bitcoin companies because it makes us

507
00:47:04,009 --> 00:47:09,309
look legit it makes us look real if you have a ticker you have marquee you're basically like

508
00:47:09,309 --> 00:47:15,089
the stock market so totally legit well it's it's my only problem is it's behind i think it is paper

509
00:47:15,089 --> 00:47:21,089
bitcoin summer and i think that you should it i'm willing to design it i'll pay for bitcoin summer

510
00:47:21,089 --> 00:47:27,069
uh like like the if you look at the end of the song or whatever i can show it to you it's a cool

511
00:47:27,069 --> 00:47:31,949
logo and you put that like you don't use my logo but the lights and the neons and you put all the

512
00:47:31,949 --> 00:47:36,269
paper bitcoin companies scrolling across their biggest hit they're probably you'll probably

513
00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:42,089
triple your your website traffic every day yeah i was actually thinking you know we were talking

514
00:47:42,089 --> 00:47:46,589
about old school internet we could get um you know i could like have those little um banners

515
00:47:46,589 --> 00:47:51,129
that follow your mouse around like you could put on like geo cities like the little letters that

516
00:47:51,129 --> 00:47:55,809
can like trail after your mouse imagine i still have that yeah yeah but for like paper bitcoin

517
00:47:55,809 --> 00:48:03,529
companies um you can either have their logo or their podcasters uh face we could charge

518
00:48:03,529 --> 00:48:05,169
Natalie or Joe Burnett.

519
00:48:05,569 --> 00:48:09,049
Yeah, you can change the cursor to be Metaplanet's logo.

520
00:48:09,489 --> 00:48:10,589
It would be pretty fucking cool.

521
00:48:13,189 --> 00:48:16,969
You could probably do that with AI in five minutes.

522
00:48:17,889 --> 00:48:19,229
It's a campaign.

523
00:48:19,729 --> 00:48:21,069
Yeah, that's why they call it cursor.

524
00:48:21,069 --> 00:48:36,109
okay so i have a question for you guys um

525
00:48:36,109 --> 00:48:42,629
uh if you weren't bitcoin podcasters what would you be

526
00:48:42,629 --> 00:48:55,409
i would uh i would i would go back to what i was doing before i became a bitcoin podcaster

527
00:48:55,409 --> 00:48:59,629
and a journalist which i kind of completed or i kind of combined the two know i'm a podcast

528
00:48:59,629 --> 00:49:05,749
journalist uh i was in charge of whenever somebody died or something i would go and edit their

529
00:49:05,749 --> 00:49:10,869
their wikipedia articles so that all of the work like the whole narrative would be in past tense

530
00:49:10,869 --> 00:49:16,309
so i had to just make you know they die and then add that they died so that was what i did it's a

531
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:23,309
very tedious job i don't know if it's still available uh since since ai but uh i'd go back

532
00:49:23,309 --> 00:49:32,709
to that it was living it was it paid for my cigarettes that's my favorite job you you went

533
00:49:32,709 --> 00:49:37,669
sure you went and like maybe another part of it was that you made sure all of the the typed i's and

534
00:49:37,669 --> 00:49:44,269
had dots and crosses on them so that uh they didn't you know yeah amy wine amy wine house was

535
00:49:44,269 --> 00:49:49,549
my last was my last week apd article i've had another it was a depressing one uh and that's

536
00:49:49,549 --> 00:49:56,109
when i i decided to pursue my journalism degree at the university of phoenix yeah well you got

537
00:49:56,109 --> 00:50:03,569
out before the the epstein uh one so you know you missed the worst yeah yeah yeah for sure what

538
00:50:03,569 --> 00:50:09,009
you richard what would you be if you weren't uh if you had to step down and denigrate yourself to

539
00:50:09,009 --> 00:50:14,369
a different profession well i think it'd be the same profession it would just be in a different

540
00:50:14,369 --> 00:50:20,809
medium you know because at the end of the day i'm a journalist if i had to step away from journalism

541
00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:28,409
i don't know maybe i'd go work at the atlas society or something like that and just

542
00:50:28,409 --> 00:50:36,449
smoke cigarettes and read alice shrug all day yeah i would like to you know maybe one day i'd like to

543
00:50:36,449 --> 00:50:45,169
um form the uh the anti ellsworth tui uh foundation which essentially a foundation just

544
00:50:45,169 --> 00:50:49,169
educating people on why they shouldn't be like mike brock

545
00:50:49,169 --> 00:50:57,309
if people need be educated about that i i think they may be beyond hope was he uh

546
00:50:57,309 --> 00:51:05,029
was he like doing paid promotion behind his own deranged tweets for a while am i great did i

547
00:51:05,029 --> 00:51:11,569
hallucinate this no yeah no he was he was yeah he was advertising his his post for his mostly for

548
00:51:11,569 --> 00:51:20,209
his sub stack his new sub stack articles and i think like from uh an adoration day to valentine's

549
00:51:20,209 --> 00:51:25,609
day he was documenting every impeachable for him and platter they were all there every time there

550
00:51:25,609 --> 00:51:30,429
was a tweet and it was an impeachable offense mike baroncos was was cataloging it and he was

551
00:51:30,429 --> 00:51:37,089
polishing it so people knew and he was promoting those um and he's he he started calling himself

552
00:51:37,089 --> 00:51:44,709
a reluctant cassandra so he he sees himself as the cassandra uh prophesying he is navigating

553
00:51:44,709 --> 00:51:51,149
the fourth turning for us uh and that's the role he's been playing it happened by his blood sweat

554
00:51:51,149 --> 00:51:56,709
in tears he's turning that grinding gear that he he thinks of it as the wheels of justice grind

555
00:51:56,709 --> 00:52:03,729
exceedingly slow but in fact he's actually turning that fourth turning for us he sees himself he sees

556
00:52:03,729 --> 00:52:11,109
himself as the the the bastion against the destruction of democracy like he is the man

557
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:19,129
holding an old up on his shoulders what an hero oh my gosh what a guy

558
00:52:19,129 --> 00:52:26,109
but he had he does have paid subscribers so there are there are people out there who

559
00:52:26,109 --> 00:52:33,169
they are so confused that they're paying 30 a month to let mike brought narrate the fourth

560
00:52:33,169 --> 00:52:37,069
turning for them and that's that's you don't want to go through the fourth turning like that

561
00:52:37,069 --> 00:52:45,949
there's yeah that's that's worse than yeah that's worse than being on you know the seventh level of

562
00:52:45,949 --> 00:52:52,149
Dante's Inferno, like that you're held in Mike Brock's mouth there with alongside Judas.

563
00:52:52,989 --> 00:52:53,969
And that's not a good algorithm.

564
00:52:53,969 --> 00:52:54,229
Yeah.

565
00:52:54,509 --> 00:52:54,729
Yeah.

566
00:52:54,769 --> 00:52:55,689
Not a good algorithm.

567
00:52:55,969 --> 00:52:58,529
Not a good algorithm to be on for sure.

568
00:52:59,649 --> 00:53:00,249
Yeah.

569
00:53:01,349 --> 00:53:02,329
Oh, man.

570
00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:03,689
That guy.

571
00:53:05,089 --> 00:53:05,649
Yeah.

572
00:53:06,269 --> 00:53:12,549
He, you know, some some people, you know, you can tell you can see the insanity brewing

573
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:19,269
and bubbling up and kind of like being like you know um heating up in a crucible sometimes a little

574
00:53:19,269 --> 00:53:24,709
deranged thought will escape an intrusive thought will make it into the internet and you can tell

575
00:53:24,709 --> 00:53:31,869
ah in one year to one and a half years this person is going to break and um i know you could

576
00:53:31,869 --> 00:53:37,629
see that about a year ago you could see like yeah crack beginning to form and then the full the full

577
00:53:37,629 --> 00:53:45,649
clean break happened january 20th late late stage trump arrangement syndrome he hate to see it

578
00:53:45,649 --> 00:53:55,889
yeah late late onset yeah yeah so charlie have you ever listened to one of our interview episodes

579
00:53:55,889 --> 00:54:03,809
before yeah yeah i listened to a couple not on purpose um i forget who i think i did you rob

580
00:54:03,809 --> 00:54:08,469
i think i had rob on oh yeah yeah i mainly i was mainly listening to rob to make sure he wasn't one

581
00:54:08,469 --> 00:54:14,669
of you guys that's yeah that's we get a lot of we get a lot of people who listen to the podcast is to

582
00:54:14,669 --> 00:54:20,989
make sure it's not him or some you know there's a few other people no all right i'm out yeah a lot

583
00:54:20,989 --> 00:54:26,309
of people overestimate rob like they they look at him they accuse him of being podconf

584
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:28,909
being the most

585
00:54:28,909 --> 00:54:31,089
dominant shadow

586
00:54:31,089 --> 00:54:32,869
organization in Bitcoin

587
00:54:32,869 --> 00:54:33,609
content.

588
00:54:35,369 --> 00:54:36,869
But he's really just an

589
00:54:36,869 --> 00:54:38,029
everyman. He's just

590
00:54:38,029 --> 00:54:40,969
a tabula rasa upon which

591
00:54:40,969 --> 00:54:42,329
every Bitcoiner

592
00:54:42,329 --> 00:54:44,489
reflects themselves. So you just

593
00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:46,269
look at him in his shiny bald head

594
00:54:46,269 --> 00:54:48,869
and you just get yourself

595
00:54:48,869 --> 00:54:50,609
reflected back to you.

596
00:54:51,029 --> 00:54:53,049
I think I also listened to

597
00:54:53,049 --> 00:54:54,629
the Juneseth one. Do you guys do

598
00:54:54,629 --> 00:54:55,569
a Juneseth interview?

599
00:54:56,309 --> 00:55:02,769
they did yeah that was a good one that was a really good one that was fine yeah yeah last

600
00:55:02,769 --> 00:55:08,729
thing on ron hamilton it's i just think that it would be really fucked up i mean his his co-founder

601
00:55:08,729 --> 00:55:12,769
is going through so much if he was not working on the company if he was shit posting for the

602
00:55:12,769 --> 00:55:18,529
bugle for podcom doing podcasts instead of focusing on interwatch that would be that would

603
00:55:18,529 --> 00:55:25,649
shit that would be fucked up he's not doing that yeah unfortunately he's out there actually building

604
00:55:25,649 --> 00:55:32,869
things as one of the five people in the entire bitcoin ecosystem who can code so um his his

605
00:55:32,869 --> 00:55:39,889
you know he can't waste his time and efforts on just talking about things he has to go build things

606
00:55:39,889 --> 00:55:46,369
but um who's gonna buy what he's selling if we don't talk about it rob you have to have a top

607
00:55:46,369 --> 00:55:53,329
of funnel problem so he doesn't yeah he doesn't he doesn't want to be shinobi that's for sure yeah

608
00:55:53,329 --> 00:55:58,369
okay let's let's make a deal here then live whenever anchor watch finally starts making

609
00:55:58,369 --> 00:56:04,309
money they have to sponsor both our podcasts we'll split the money right down the middle

610
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:12,809
we'll align um and yeah so we have we got we we got you to be a household name so you can

611
00:56:12,809 --> 00:56:19,369
finally start making money it's time for you to pay back what you owe exactly rising tide lifts

612
00:56:19,369 --> 00:56:24,109
all boats and therefore raises the anchors so you no longer need to need to watch the anchors

613
00:56:24,109 --> 00:56:30,809
with anchor watch the best custodian in crypto he would have to boost our podcast that's how the

614
00:56:30,809 --> 00:56:37,149
sponsors work but yeah we can put a good word put in a good word for you guys for sure i i probably

615
00:56:37,149 --> 00:56:43,949
what i would go and um i would approach rob i'd be like hey you should sponsor block space

616
00:56:43,949 --> 00:56:49,869
they're really cool they were the other guys that spamming vegas the other media company that was

617
00:56:49,869 --> 00:57:00,429
there yeah um yeah so one of the things that uh we do to wrap up every one of our episodes

618
00:57:00,429 --> 00:57:07,229
we get we go through a ritual so um always ask did you listen to the last episode it sounds like

619
00:57:07,229 --> 00:57:12,929
you didn't get a chance to listen to the last one with uh evan kalupas of uh zeus wallet

620
00:57:12,929 --> 00:57:21,309
i did not know unfortunately yeah that was a good one it was a fun one uh but we we always

621
00:57:21,309 --> 00:57:28,469
read the fountain booths of the previous week with our uh with our guest um but before we get

622
00:57:28,469 --> 00:57:39,209
into that i have an important question which is are you jewish no um i'm not i don't i don't have

623
00:57:39,209 --> 00:57:53,015
an alignment um i kind of wish i were though um they seem happy honestly Why do you wish that you were Jewish

624
00:57:56,095 --> 00:57:58,535
I think they get more holidays than Christians.

625
00:57:59,815 --> 00:58:05,695
So just from the get-go, we get one day for maybe two days for Christmas.

626
00:58:05,855 --> 00:58:08,955
They get friggin' seven, eight, probably more.

627
00:58:08,955 --> 00:58:22,075
um they've been around longer which is you know better and um uh they have more money so like you

628
00:58:22,075 --> 00:58:29,095
know honestly i don't see why everybody's not in line to like bitcoin max it's like it's like it's

629
00:58:29,095 --> 00:58:33,215
the it's the bitcoin dominance it's jewish dominance like it's the yeah it's the main

630
00:58:33,215 --> 00:58:41,315
chain yeah it is yeah it's yeah it's we're the fork you know we're we're right they're actually

631
00:58:41,315 --> 00:58:45,635
they're the original version of bitcoin according to the white paper if we never change from the

632
00:58:45,635 --> 00:58:52,275
white paper you know christianity is uh is uh it's really we're like it's like three or four

633
00:58:52,275 --> 00:58:55,955
down yeah yeah christianity segway

634
00:58:55,955 --> 00:59:03,615
we had a schism we had a schism does that change science

635
00:59:03,615 --> 00:59:08,735
scientology is taproot so

636
00:59:08,735 --> 00:59:11,335
mormon and mormonism

637
00:59:11,335 --> 00:59:19,955
i don't know yeah mormon that's a good comparison so um

638
00:59:19,955 --> 00:59:25,895
seen as we're all descendants of adam and eve

639
00:59:25,895 --> 00:59:33,355
yeah we're adam and eve jewish

640
00:59:33,355 --> 00:59:46,175
i mean uh obviously um so somebody in the garden was well actually if they were naked then adam's

641
00:59:46,175 --> 00:59:53,355
head was uncovered so i guess by the strict rule of the letter of the law you might say

642
00:59:53,355 --> 00:59:59,915
he was not i need to i need to go and read my bible but i don't think when when adam ate the

643
00:59:59,915 --> 01:00:08,415
the apple his first action was to put a yarmulke on but did i say that i didn't say that let's

644
01:00:08,415 --> 01:00:14,875
let's assume that adam and eve were jewish okay let's assume okay

645
01:00:14,875 --> 01:00:20,675
yeah doesn't that essentially mean that we're also all jewish

646
01:00:20,675 --> 01:00:30,835
when did the the difference happen where people became jewish and non-jewish

647
01:00:30,835 --> 01:00:41,215
uh i don't know um luke definitely knows though he's probably written we need to get luke on here

648
01:00:41,215 --> 01:00:50,295
yeah i want to do a podcast with luke and only ask uh questions like uh difficult to answer

649
01:00:50,295 --> 01:00:56,295
really good questions yeah if i got to talk to luke i don't think i'd talk i'd ask him any

650
01:00:56,295 --> 01:01:02,855
questions about the coin at all you won't get any good answers you just get yes no lie i want to

651
01:01:02,855 --> 01:01:08,295
know his opinion on yeah women's pregnancies like how to handle pride like he wants to argue with

652
01:01:08,295 --> 01:01:13,035
with pregnant moms about yeah about their periods and their and when they can have kids again it's

653
01:01:13,035 --> 01:01:18,635
hilarious i'm pretty sure most of the time he's arguing with infertile white women though

654
01:01:18,635 --> 01:01:30,495
the yeah those you're punching down when you do that um don't push down luke i do love luke's

655
01:01:30,495 --> 01:01:38,435
like replies because he will be in the middle of some bullshit loop like luke like loop about

656
01:01:38,435 --> 01:01:45,135
filters and then i'll immediately hop over it's like hardcore trad cat twitter and like immediately

657
01:01:45,135 --> 01:01:51,475
switched code switch i've never seen somebody go switch as much as that like in the you in there

658
01:01:51,475 --> 01:01:55,895
the replies with such rapidity that like you can tell he's having these thoughts simultaneously

659
01:01:55,895 --> 01:02:02,255
it's amazing he's he is fighting a two-front war he is fighting for big point and for catholicism

660
01:02:02,255 --> 01:02:07,315
he's got to jump back and forth he's got the same type of enemies on each side yeah and he's

661
01:02:07,315 --> 01:02:13,255
surrounded by enemies this is why the nazis lost in world war ii they tried to fight a two-front

662
01:02:13,255 --> 01:02:18,875
real war i think luke's got to pick one or the other he's either going to fight the crusade for

663
01:02:18,875 --> 01:02:25,495
bitcoin or he's going to fight the uh crusade for catholicism yeah the crusades they only put they

664
01:02:25,495 --> 01:02:29,975
only went one direction which was east and i mean they had about a 50 50 win rate

665
01:02:29,975 --> 01:02:42,335
totally well thanks for going through that uh with me real quick um yeah so yeah the last

666
01:02:42,335 --> 01:02:45,455
the last week we were talking about with Evan Kalupas,

667
01:02:45,515 --> 01:02:49,995
we're talking about UX and the great UX of Zeus wallet with their cool

668
01:02:49,995 --> 01:02:50,795
graphics.

669
01:02:51,415 --> 01:02:52,275
But he,

670
01:02:52,495 --> 01:02:57,155
have you ever used a Bitcoin wallet that has as cool graphics as Zeus wallet?

671
01:02:58,775 --> 01:02:59,095
Um,

672
01:02:59,235 --> 01:02:59,855
no,

673
01:03:00,195 --> 01:03:00,735
I,

674
01:03:01,255 --> 01:03:01,675
uh,

675
01:03:01,675 --> 01:03:02,075
no,

676
01:03:02,275 --> 01:03:03,295
Zeus is definitely top.

677
01:03:03,655 --> 01:03:03,975
Um,

678
01:03:03,975 --> 01:03:04,975
if it doesn't look,

679
01:03:05,175 --> 01:03:06,075
uh,

680
01:03:06,155 --> 01:03:06,615
like,

681
01:03:06,615 --> 01:03:07,195
uh,

682
01:03:07,195 --> 01:03:08,335
Roman architecture,

683
01:03:08,335 --> 01:03:09,315
then I don't want it.

684
01:03:12,335 --> 01:03:14,935
If it doesn't look like classic Greco-Roman,

685
01:03:15,935 --> 01:03:19,195
it doesn't look like Rome's absolutely peaking

686
01:03:19,195 --> 01:03:20,715
in designing mobile apps,

687
01:03:20,815 --> 01:03:22,475
then I don't want to use it.

688
01:03:22,575 --> 01:03:25,075
Don't give me this bubbly, monochromatic stuff.

689
01:03:25,155 --> 01:03:25,675
Give me colors.

690
01:03:25,815 --> 01:03:27,215
Give me hard angles.

691
01:03:27,435 --> 01:03:28,535
Give me math and science

692
01:03:28,535 --> 01:03:32,235
and beautiful Roman aqueducts

693
01:03:32,235 --> 01:03:34,255
and make me a lightning wallet.

694
01:03:35,375 --> 01:03:37,095
So shout out Evan.

695
01:03:37,275 --> 01:03:38,815
I love the Zeus guys.

696
01:03:38,955 --> 01:03:41,135
Actually, Zeus is the lightning wallet

697
01:03:41,135 --> 01:03:42,135
I recommend most people.

698
01:03:42,335 --> 01:03:47,235
these days is it primarily because of the graphics or why

699
01:03:47,235 --> 01:03:55,895
well obviously the graphics but also sparrow was kicked out they left the u.s those pussies they so

700
01:03:55,895 --> 01:04:04,395
but they came back so i'm warming back up to sparrow again phoenix yes stop stop naming your

701
01:04:04,395 --> 01:04:12,695
after birds okay yeah so stop with the birds give me give me different animals

702
01:04:12,695 --> 01:04:18,155
badgers taken you could you could probably use some kind of horse or you can't do any bear themed

703
01:04:18,155 --> 01:04:23,675
stuff yeah give me give me a bull wallet but the french always there yeah it was phoenix the french

704
01:04:23,675 --> 01:04:29,495
always surrender they always out they even pass a lot it is like we don't have enough regulatory

705
01:04:29,495 --> 01:04:33,675
clarity we're oh we're getting out of here and now they're trying to come back

706
01:04:33,675 --> 01:04:36,695
and then stayed through it all you didn't give a fuck yeah

707
01:04:36,695 --> 01:04:44,015
didn't the french sell us like the louisiana purchase they sold it to us for like two million

708
01:04:44,015 --> 01:04:51,355
dollars so flutter would call that a rug bull he would say that that was you say he say you're

709
01:04:51,355 --> 01:04:57,675
dumping yeah taking advantage of somebody i think hey say what you say what you will about

710
01:04:57,675 --> 01:05:01,395
editor, but I don't think anyone listens to more Bitcoin podcasts than he does.

711
01:05:01,815 --> 01:05:05,675
He listens. I'm pretty certain he is Bitcoin season two's most loyal

712
01:05:05,675 --> 01:05:08,775
listener. If I ever say anything

713
01:05:08,775 --> 01:05:12,875
dumb, which is all the time, granted, but if I say anything dumb,

714
01:05:13,015 --> 01:05:17,695
he never misses it. He watches every single

715
01:05:17,695 --> 01:05:21,495
second of that podcast. He's going to watch every second of this one

716
01:05:21,495 --> 01:05:24,275
and he's going to clip it. He's going to come up with some

717
01:05:24,275 --> 01:05:28,715
you know, like bitter statement about it.

718
01:05:29,015 --> 01:05:30,315
But I got, I'm not gonna lie.

719
01:05:30,495 --> 01:05:31,895
Putter is actually unironically

720
01:05:31,895 --> 01:05:33,955
one of my top 10 favorite Twitter accounts

721
01:05:33,955 --> 01:05:36,955
because in the D&D alignment chart,

722
01:05:37,015 --> 01:05:38,075
he's like true neutral.

723
01:05:38,515 --> 01:05:40,555
He just, he wakes up, flips a coin

724
01:05:40,555 --> 01:05:41,835
of something to be mad at.

725
01:05:41,835 --> 01:05:43,615
And sometimes it's great.

726
01:05:44,075 --> 01:05:45,435
Sometimes this takes our killer.

727
01:05:45,935 --> 01:05:47,415
Sometimes they're fucking retarded.

728
01:05:47,975 --> 01:05:49,075
And I like that.

729
01:05:49,155 --> 01:05:51,295
It's the duality of man.

730
01:05:51,795 --> 01:05:53,755
He's a true neutral Bitcoin character.

731
01:05:54,275 --> 01:05:58,035
And, uh, Pleaditor, I would love to have, we'd love to have you on our podcasts.

732
01:05:58,255 --> 01:06:03,575
So if you do podcasts, um, we accept voice changers.

733
01:06:03,575 --> 01:06:05,395
This is a voice changer friendly podcast.

734
01:06:05,735 --> 01:06:06,515
Bitcoin season two.

735
01:06:06,595 --> 01:06:10,875
I need, uh, you know, I can't be talking to deep voiced men.

736
01:06:10,995 --> 01:06:11,975
I get a little too intimidated.

737
01:06:12,055 --> 01:06:16,475
So, uh, you'll have to, you know, maybe docs the voice docs for me.

738
01:06:16,555 --> 01:06:17,555
So yeah.

739
01:06:17,695 --> 01:06:18,335
Shout out Pleaditor.

740
01:06:18,335 --> 01:06:24,535
i'm just excited that the idea of pletter to finally listen to our podcast

741
01:06:24,535 --> 01:06:33,215
oh you know he does he listens to he's he's uh an all-seeing eye he he doesn't miss anything

742
01:06:33,215 --> 01:06:39,515
i'm amazed that's why the north pole is going with pletter over palantir for his not your nice list

743
01:06:39,515 --> 01:06:46,595
pletter sees everything better get you there used to pletter's fucking database hell yeah his dossiers

744
01:06:46,595 --> 01:06:54,535
you keep receipts for everything yeah palantir santa planetor platters he's he's more powerful

745
01:06:54,535 --> 01:07:01,555
than all of them you know he sees all oh yeah uh before we do the boost i that's one of the

746
01:07:01,555 --> 01:07:07,595
questions i forgot to ask bitcoin season two it's the name of the podcast but what is what is bitcoin

747
01:07:07,595 --> 01:07:13,095
season two it's kind of a meme it's not just a podcast what does that mean so it's a name i own

748
01:07:13,095 --> 01:07:15,755
because it's salacious. It's good.

749
01:07:16,935 --> 01:07:20,115
I think I wasn't the first person to use the term,

750
01:07:20,215 --> 01:07:22,275
but I was one of the first people to really lean into it.

751
01:07:23,295 --> 01:07:25,275
And it's actually pretty simple.

752
01:07:26,455 --> 01:07:30,435
As you guys know, the podcast landscape got very stale.

753
01:07:30,815 --> 01:07:32,235
It was the same 10 people.

754
01:07:32,375 --> 01:07:34,595
The circle jerk got smaller and smaller and smaller

755
01:07:34,595 --> 01:07:35,895
until it was like maybe a dozen people.

756
01:07:36,595 --> 01:07:38,475
So I want to bring more people

757
01:07:38,475 --> 01:07:40,995
and create my own little circle jerk of new faces

758
01:07:40,995 --> 01:07:49,895
and new topics. Frankly, I want to talk about, I'm not afraid to like actually have like attempts

759
01:07:49,895 --> 01:07:56,055
to have very technical conversations with heterodox opinions. And I'm not afraid, and I

760
01:07:56,055 --> 01:08:03,215
actually kind of enjoy talking about things like that happen outside of Bitcoin, because I think

761
01:08:03,215 --> 01:08:09,555
they affect Bitcoin a lot. And I think the fact that Bitcoin podcasts have had just a very narrow

762
01:08:09,555 --> 01:08:15,355
list of things you can talk about and you can't talk about shitcoins. And yet now Bitcoin is

763
01:08:15,355 --> 01:08:21,295
some days predominantly a shitcoin chain is crazy to me that we can't that like,

764
01:08:21,295 --> 01:08:26,855
you don't understand the mechanics of this. And so you can you can try to reject these and look

765
01:08:26,855 --> 01:08:35,315
upon these users of your chain and be dismissive, or you can try to engage them and have some fun

766
01:08:35,315 --> 01:08:37,355
because is it really that bad?

767
01:08:37,735 --> 01:08:40,555
So Big One Season 2 is about having new people,

768
01:08:41,075 --> 01:08:43,115
serious conversations, joking conversations,

769
01:08:43,655 --> 01:08:49,375
and Monomite goals is to often be someone's...

770
01:08:49,375 --> 01:08:51,895
This is going to sound very onanistic.

771
01:08:52,475 --> 01:08:55,975
I want to be the first podcast that someone comes on

772
01:08:55,975 --> 01:08:59,115
and before they start doing more.

773
01:08:59,915 --> 01:09:01,935
And I've been able to do that with a handful of folks

774
01:09:01,935 --> 01:09:08,555
just because i want to um i don't know i just like to seek out fresh faces and fresh opinions

775
01:09:08,555 --> 01:09:29,080
we can have like robert breedlove got boring years ago and uh it used to be fun to listen to and now he boring as hell and um sailor theories is a classic yeah that was probably like yeah that may have been like peak breed love and just been downhill

776
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:39,320
since then um yeah it's uh you know he's his influencer journey is is one to behold i think

777
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:45,220
it's gonna make for a great documentary but yeah i get what you're saying so you're trying to

778
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:52,840
freshen it up and uh you you know i think one thing both of our podcasts have in common is

779
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:59,200
we're not going to let the shit coiners make us grumpy sometimes you bring up you say the word

780
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:04,720
crypto or you talk about like solana meme coins and the people on the podcast they just they're

781
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,640
it's like your grandpa always hearing about immigrants at thanksgadies again that you can't

782
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,880
have a conversation with grandpa without blaming the immigrants for something grandpa you know i'm

783
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:20,160
going to find you some cheap labor okay like i know them because they're my friends and uh similar

784
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:25,480
kind of thing like you can maybe ideologically oppose them i think it makes a lot of sense

785
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:30,180
but um i don't think it makes sense if you're going to try to like analyze and engage with

786
01:10:30,180 --> 01:10:37,300
the bitcoin ecosystem which now is a much it looks different than what you would think it looks like

787
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:42,400
based if you only list upon 20 if you only list on listen to like 2021 peak podcasting so like

788
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:48,800
it's a podcast for the modern era the renaissance man uh that's the podcast he listens to

789
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:55,520
oh yeah

790
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:04,760
it's all right so what we do now is we basically just read the books and react to them so

791
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:11,560
uh we talked about we talked to evan about honestly a million things richard do you

792
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:18,920
remember any of the main topics but uh um talked about paper bitcoin and we talked about it you

793
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:25,660
know the crazy lightning user experience and uh so that's kind of the context for the

794
01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:31,680
for the boost the first one is from our friend fundamentals now fundamentals

795
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:38,760
has a new book that just came out and you can buy that it is uh bitcoin for institutions

796
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:48,980
um the the link for you can get that using the z's wallet will be in the show notes uh neither

797
01:11:48,980 --> 01:11:54,960
of the neither of those are advertisements those are just our friends and they work together to to

798
01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:02,460
sell his book so go check those out um maybe it's just 21 000 sats probably so i would remember

799
01:12:02,460 --> 01:12:10,660
to play his book because we're vice so uh thank you fundamentals i've got it in my hands here i'm

800
01:12:10,660 --> 01:12:16,300
excited to read it so essentially fundamentals wrote this book about how to teach institutions

801
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:21,460
on how to paper bitcoin responsibly i think it's a very important book

802
01:12:21,460 --> 01:12:28,620
thanks for the push

803
01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:31,760
the guys who zap

804
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,180
you are the lifeblood

805
01:12:34,180 --> 01:12:35,940
of indie podcasts

806
01:12:35,940 --> 01:12:41,900
would you consider

807
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:43,980
Citadel Dispatch an indie podcast

808
01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:49,980
I don't know

809
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:51,020
how many

810
01:12:51,020 --> 01:13:00,040
oh yeah kind of i would say it's in i mean it's indian that it's independent which is uh

811
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:07,840
that's that's the where the nomenclature gets its from its name from so it's user supported

812
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:13,640
so i think that's big um yeah i would say it's an indie podcast indie doesn't have to mean small

813
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:20,840
i mean when i when i think of the the term indie i imagine a woman with dreadlocks

814
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,580
like a white woman with dreadlocks that doesn't believe in shaving her armpits

815
01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:31,780
you know uh you can you can imagine that it doesn't

816
01:13:31,780 --> 01:13:42,900
uh i i think like a red-blooded american of the indy 500 so uh you know just just where my mind is

817
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:53,280
the the virile uh miller high life drinking uh stock car racing so yeah or do you think about

818
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:59,380
the the woman that goes to the indy 500 not to watch the race but to go into the snake pit

819
01:13:59,380 --> 01:14:03,140
that has dreadlocks and doesn't believe in shaving her armpits

820
01:14:03,140 --> 01:14:10,620
maybe we're yeah we're we're all we're just two blind men feeling different parts of the elephant

821
01:14:10,620 --> 01:14:16,020
yeah man we're talking about the same thing this holonaut is an elephant that's for sure

822
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,720
nancy you're describing haven't heard from her for a while

823
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:34,820
next boost is from open mic 7777 sats uh says bugle my high club zap airplane emoji lightning

824
01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:41,760
emoji airplane emoji there there's like this trend that we've seen charlie where people like

825
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:51,860
to listen to bugle while on uh airplanes uh any suspicion why

826
01:14:51,860 --> 01:15:01,320
i think it's just cool to to zap uh or to boost podcasts from 30 000 feet in the air

827
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:08,060
you know what i mean yeah maybe maybe they can't legally listen well unless they're in

828
01:15:08,060 --> 01:15:15,400
international waters i don't know i'm just speculating i think yeah being in a non-kyc

829
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:22,280
location makes listening to this podcast yeah you have to be a non-kyc that's what it is

830
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:27,080
like you're not you're not worried about the state you're worried about somali pirates

831
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:36,100
right exactly yeah brings a whole new level to this to listen to the show that's for sure

832
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:43,600
yeah you're not a true fan unless you're zapping us from your nation state uh oil platform in the

833
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:50,280
middle of the north um north sea where you're building your little colony and you're stateless

834
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,300
So, you know, that's what a true Bitcoiner does.

835
01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:56,120
Hell yeah.

836
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,360
The next boost is from Shadrach.

837
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:00,120
He's our buddy.

838
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:06,700
Now, Shadrach, speaking of zapping from anywhere, this guy's, you know, he's, you could be anywhere in the world.

839
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,920
It wouldn't be surprising if he zapped us from the literal Hanoi Hilton at one point.

840
01:16:11,480 --> 01:16:12,860
But Shadrach is the man.

841
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,120
And he boosts us 3,993 stats.

842
01:16:17,340 --> 01:16:18,780
And then it's such a great rest.

843
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:22,800
High Signal, great show, 40 hours per week.

844
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,620
Thank you, Shadrach.

845
01:16:26,340 --> 01:16:28,580
Zapping us from Nebuchadnezzar's oven,

846
01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:31,440
if you want an obscure biblical reference.

847
01:16:33,420 --> 01:16:33,800
Hell yeah.

848
01:16:34,140 --> 01:16:36,620
You watched VeggieTales growing up, huh?

849
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:38,080
That's why you know that reference.

850
01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:40,600
Yeah, I watched a lot of VeggieTales.

851
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:42,260
I can go toe-to-toe with Luke.

852
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,920
That's actually, I cut my teeth debating Luke

853
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,340
on old-school Bitcoin hacker Mastodon.

854
01:16:48,780 --> 01:16:56,160
um under an alias so yeah there's three types of podcast listeners that we have on this show

855
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:03,300
there's those that have read the bible or the the torah i don't even know if the story is in the

856
01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:12,780
torah same thing all are a little bit different but um uh there's people that read the bible they

857
01:17:12,780 --> 01:17:17,900
know about that story there's people that grew up watching veggie tales and know about that story

858
01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:20,040
they understand the Shadrach reference

859
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,020
and then there's people that have done neither

860
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:23,980
and they have no idea who the Shadrach

861
01:17:23,980 --> 01:17:26,380
character is or where the name

862
01:17:26,380 --> 01:17:27,020
comes from

863
01:17:27,020 --> 01:17:29,680
it's easy

864
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,840
to profile people that way

865
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,920
I'm just looking at you

866
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,200
you don't look like a bible guy you look like a veggie tales

867
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,140
guy to me

868
01:17:37,140 --> 01:17:41,680
I think in Oklahoma there's a lot of both

869
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,700
yeah

870
01:17:42,700 --> 01:17:45,760
there's really no we don't distinguish between

871
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,880
the two they're not they're the same person

872
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,420
i'm in front yeah another another fun fact about oklahoma

873
01:17:51,420 --> 01:18:01,260
um yeah shan rack's a cool dude i've been chatting with him a bunch uh one thing i wanted

874
01:18:01,260 --> 01:18:07,380
to say about open mic first before we move on uh if you know any musicians charlie there's a

875
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:15,060
platform that open mic runs called uh toonster which lets musicians it's like twitch for musicians

876
01:18:15,060 --> 01:18:21,960
bitcoin twitch for musicians essentially where they can uh live stream what's it called toonster

877
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,160
toonster

878
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:31,940
the other it's like how you spell it or it's your because it's not just uh

879
01:18:31,940 --> 01:18:34,660
it's like nostril like you take out a vowel

880
01:18:34,660 --> 01:18:42,200
toonster.io found it cool yeah it's a cool platform it's just like a good way for musicians

881
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,740
to earn more income.

882
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,840
You got a bunch of orange cells on Nostra

883
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,240
that are just excited to cheer on musicians on there.

884
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,080
So it's pretty cool.

885
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:52,800
Cool.

886
01:18:53,260 --> 01:18:54,460
I'm checking it out now.

887
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,280
You'll catch me streaming on it soon.

888
01:18:58,620 --> 01:19:00,680
I'll DJ on here some night.

889
01:19:01,140 --> 01:19:03,100
Do you ever stream on Zap.Stream?

890
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:06,940
Yeah.

891
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,020
When I had more free time back in the day,

892
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:11,220
I would stream video games.

893
01:19:11,220 --> 01:19:20,920
I'd multi-stream to zap twitch personal youtube yeah let me know the next time you do that

894
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:29,460
I'd be interested yeah I tried to zap in a while but I streamed his app pretty regularly I

895
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:33,720
haven't played any video games though other than the one time I went to orange mart

896
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:40,660
and that was a pretty good time yeah my uh my wife and some my local bitcoin meetup some of us

897
01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:45,780
like uh played on the orange mart one weekend like a month ago it was really really fun

898
01:19:45,780 --> 01:19:51,580
got a whole base going got a whole thing going it was pretty fun so so tell me what

899
01:19:51,580 --> 01:19:55,940
about you being a dj so you dj so you've got like um

900
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:01,160
that contract that electrical contraption with the fake

901
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:08,900
discs that you spin in circles and you click play on a playlist yeah i actually um this is

902
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:17,980
I don't publicize this as much, but I am like a signed musician.

903
01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:22,400
I have an indie rock band with my cousin and a record deal,

904
01:20:22,821 --> 01:20:30,620
and it's a very successful indie rock side project.

905
01:20:31,341 --> 01:20:35,800
And so I do some music production,

906
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:43,400
but uh for fun i'll dj sometimes just you know random parties and i think i told like some

907
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:49,400
bitcoin people that like yeah sure i'll like dj a party and then so now i get like called to do it

908
01:20:49,400 --> 01:21:02,606
and it the best thing ever um what your band called I never heard of this It called MoreAndMore all caps all one word

909
01:21:02,746 --> 01:21:04,066
more ampersand more.

910
01:21:06,186 --> 01:21:11,346
So you can go check that out on Spotify.

911
01:21:15,346 --> 01:21:16,146
Oh, yeah.

912
01:21:16,246 --> 01:21:17,466
I didn't know this about you.

913
01:21:17,466 --> 01:21:25,886
i'm genuinely it's very cool did you post that on wave lake too uh i posted some of our the the

914
01:21:25,886 --> 01:21:30,346
more and more was a band before this and so i posted some of that band's music on wave lake

915
01:21:30,346 --> 01:21:38,486
um but then i can't because i we can't legally distribute our stuff on many platforms with

916
01:21:38,486 --> 01:21:46,886
outside of the capital music group so yeah yeah that's what that's cool that's what your label is

917
01:21:46,886 --> 01:21:55,446
capital music group no no that's the that's the count that's our that's our licensing

918
01:21:55,446 --> 01:22:03,346
counterparty anyway yeah i actually wonder how can i search stuff on the way of like

919
01:22:03,346 --> 01:22:08,026
come on here so you was there there with toonster you don't need a uh

920
01:22:08,026 --> 01:22:13,746
a counterparty and whatever he's talked about there so there you go the uh

921
01:22:13,746 --> 01:22:25,366
next one is from paper bitcoin summer that's dave uh dave from new zealand he's our boy uh 2,121

922
01:22:25,366 --> 01:22:31,646
sats top three interviews lols maybe non-custodial lighting ux is about the cool graphics and all

923
01:22:31,646 --> 01:22:37,546
the failed payments made along the way exactly lighting doesn't work you need a beautiful

924
01:22:37,546 --> 01:22:41,866
concierge that's the beautifully aesthetically pleasing a good experience while you're in the

925
01:22:41,866 --> 01:22:46,806
app because you're going to be there retrying your payments over and over and that's that's

926
01:22:46,806 --> 01:22:50,986
just the way it is hard money should be hard to use hard money should be hard to use hell yeah

927
01:22:50,986 --> 01:22:57,406
that that's my favorite part about zeus is when you have a failed lightning transaction the

928
01:22:57,406 --> 01:23:01,786
graphics are great i feel like this is something a lot of the other lightning wallets have not

929
01:23:01,786 --> 01:23:08,706
figured out yeah it's dark patterns you actually at some level you kind of wanted to fail

930
01:23:08,706 --> 01:23:10,866
so that you get to see the fun graphic.

931
01:23:14,426 --> 01:23:19,986
I'm looking at your Spotify now,

932
01:23:20,266 --> 01:23:21,586
and I'm pretty impressed.

933
01:23:21,806 --> 01:23:24,926
You got some songs with over a million streams.

934
01:23:27,586 --> 01:23:28,066
Yeah.

935
01:23:29,126 --> 01:23:32,126
You know, I wish that could have happened a decade ago

936
01:23:32,126 --> 01:23:36,006
when I was, like, down to try to make it as a musician.

937
01:23:36,006 --> 01:23:49,406
But I'm in my 30s and I have my cousin and I have jobs and life commitments.

938
01:23:49,906 --> 01:23:53,906
So can't exactly try to go make it.

939
01:23:54,866 --> 01:24:00,846
But that's why we need to coin the 10X from here so we can start focusing on our podcasts and our bands.

940
01:24:00,846 --> 01:24:11,326
Yeah, communists dream of the post-capitalist world where they get to go and make sculptures out of feces on the ranch.

941
01:24:12,266 --> 01:24:16,666
And nobody actually has to go and mine the copper in the mines.

942
01:24:17,326 --> 01:24:18,486
And it's the same thing with Bitcoin.

943
01:24:18,666 --> 01:24:28,106
Bitcoiners want Bitcoin to go up so that they can go make hoop sculptures and start their goofy little side project band.

944
01:24:28,106 --> 01:24:31,166
nobody realizes someone still has to mine the cobalt

945
01:24:31,166 --> 01:24:34,006
yeah we're gonna let the shit coiners mine

946
01:24:34,006 --> 01:24:35,806
they're not gonna be able to handle it

947
01:24:35,806 --> 01:24:39,206
exactly

948
01:24:39,206 --> 01:24:42,546
at least we'll have a something for the boomers to do

949
01:24:42,546 --> 01:24:47,326
but their bodies will be feeble and frail

950
01:24:47,326 --> 01:24:52,366
we need we need gen z and alpha to mine the cobalt

951
01:24:52,366 --> 01:24:56,306
false we can we can suit them up with exoskeletons

952
01:24:56,306 --> 01:24:57,186
yeah

953
01:24:57,186 --> 01:25:09,106
all right well let's blast through these so uh thanks for the boost dave wow changed his name

954
01:25:09,106 --> 01:25:17,206
on found into paper bitcoin summer that's awesome mr rabbit 521 sat says node runners deserve to be

955
01:25:17,206 --> 01:25:25,426
called mr dot dot and i think it's a cool guy emoji and said hashtag start nine hashtag

956
01:25:25,426 --> 01:25:30,026
raspy blades and then node runners deserve to be called sir

957
01:25:30,026 --> 01:25:36,446
mister yeah we agree that's that's the point we made last week and i agree yeah

958
01:25:36,446 --> 01:25:41,286
node runners deserve to be called mister or you've earned the right to be called sir you know

959
01:25:41,286 --> 01:25:45,966
charlie do you think you've hit that that point in life that stage in life for the

960
01:25:45,966 --> 01:25:55,266
broccoli haircuts need to call you mr mr spears yeah yeah i think so i deserve some a level of

961
01:25:55,266 --> 01:26:02,526
a level of respect now so i include will does he need to call you mr spears i made will call me

962
01:26:02,526 --> 01:26:12,966
mr in our morning stand up uh yeah yeah uh next is poop sickle my credit card has great ux

963
01:26:12,966 --> 01:26:18,166
at we know poop sickle we know the current current has create ux except for the interest rates

964
01:26:18,166 --> 01:26:23,506
but uh we're gonna we're gonna figure out a way we're gonna get some more bitcoin rewards

965
01:26:23,506 --> 01:26:30,786
credit cards we're gonna get back in the game we just need credit cards on the blockchain yeah

966
01:26:30,786 --> 01:26:38,426
everything's going on the blockchain folks everybody dreamed of it in 2017 they were just

967
01:26:38,426 --> 01:26:44,646
too early you get all these boomers you know Cynthia Lomas running around teaching all these

968
01:26:44,646 --> 01:26:50,166
stupid politicians on the Epstein list about bitcoin they're gonna want to put it all on the

969
01:26:50,166 --> 01:27:01,106
blockchain for sure um pies 420 cents oh what were you saying well i was gonna say so the next one is

970
01:27:01,106 --> 01:27:09,046
pies uh and this is why i told you that you need to claim your podcast on fountain today you know

971
01:27:09,046 --> 01:27:16,246
uh because it's it's more than the zap income it's people like pies pies listens to every single

972
01:27:16,246 --> 01:27:22,926
bitcoin podcast that exists and there's proof of that because he boosts in comments on every single

973
01:27:22,926 --> 01:27:28,726
one of them and you see it in the comments it found every single week pies so if you post it on

974
01:27:28,726 --> 01:27:35,386
here pies will start zapping you 420 sats saying some of the most crazy incoherent shit you've ever

975
01:27:35,386 --> 01:27:43,466
read in your life and i give you a pre-listened boost dude that is not even even is on that's

976
01:27:43,466 --> 01:27:51,706
amazing the uh it's like he's checking in at the beginning of class and the end of class

977
01:27:51,706 --> 01:27:58,146
that's right and he he'll post sometimes he'll post paragraphs about his prison buddies and like

978
01:27:58,146 --> 01:28:03,406
the the coke dealers that he was beaten up for the strippers it's amazing he was in prison he

979
01:28:03,406 --> 01:28:09,006
was rehabbed by bitcoin podcasts while he was in prison and you you'll become a fan of your

980
01:28:09,006 --> 01:28:15,826
your podcast and that is having a fan like pies posting about you all over the internet is you

981
01:28:15,826 --> 01:28:22,966
can't put a price tag on it so pies as soon as as soon as charlie as soon as you hear this episode

982
01:28:22,966 --> 01:28:30,746
charlie will have his podcast on on found give it a listen so uh yeah pies gave us 420 sats the two

983
01:28:30,746 --> 01:28:35,566
boosts we read the first one he says uh i haven't gone back to new york city since the covid

984
01:28:35,566 --> 01:28:42,386
communist takeover fuck new york city fuck nyc baby total rubble dude

985
01:28:42,386 --> 01:28:54,026
so is pub key in danger of getting chased out of new york no no no pub pub key is an oasis

986
01:28:54,026 --> 01:29:02,266
in the desert the the moral desert of uh new york city

987
01:29:02,266 --> 01:29:14,366
yeah that's what uh that's what it seems like i mean my only worry is that new york city becomes

988
01:29:14,366 --> 01:29:18,106
eventually you know i don't know how long it would take but it would just be so commie that

989
01:29:18,106 --> 01:29:24,706
people start go the coolest pub moves back to the west coast you could have like la reform for new

990
01:29:24,706 --> 01:29:34,746
york and you cory could steal cory could steal the glory from pubkey that would be just the most

991
01:29:34,746 --> 01:29:43,526
cory thing ever i'm really afraid for pubkey yeah like it the one thing we know about communists is

992
01:29:43,526 --> 01:29:49,366
they like to create starvation right and they like to attack the the most productive individuals

993
01:29:49,366 --> 01:29:57,986
and uh you know bitcoiners are the most and bitcoin podcast listeners especially are the

994
01:29:57,986 --> 01:30:05,946
most productive individuals in a society and uh the communists are gonna probably

995
01:30:05,946 --> 01:30:17,686
just like go after pub key at some point kind of like uh the soviets did after the ukrainian farmers

996
01:30:19,366 --> 01:30:26,266
that's that's exactly where my head went um we're gonna have another red scare and we're gonna go

997
01:30:26,266 --> 01:30:35,966
after um any uh wrong think when i say we not me obviously i'm not a commie i'm a i'm an anarchist

998
01:30:35,966 --> 01:30:42,846
but uh i you know they're coming for me too what what specifically are your political pronouns

999
01:30:42,846 --> 01:30:48,106
um uh

1000
01:30:48,106 --> 01:30:54,286
I don't I haven't given this I haven't given this much thought um

1001
01:30:54,286 --> 01:31:02,366
uh I don't know man I'm a man I'm like an old school Woodrow Wilson fan

1002
01:31:02,366 --> 01:31:09,186
I'm just kidding he's like the fun one to hate in history um I don't know uh

1003
01:31:09,186 --> 01:31:12,946
I don't have a good answer

1004
01:31:12,946 --> 01:31:14,286
to my political pronouns

1005
01:31:14,286 --> 01:31:16,346
that's alright

1006
01:31:16,346 --> 01:31:19,266
I think a lot of people are having

1007
01:31:19,266 --> 01:31:21,086
a hard time figuring out what their

1008
01:31:21,086 --> 01:31:23,306
political pronouns are because I don't think

1009
01:31:23,306 --> 01:31:24,666
any of them

1010
01:31:24,666 --> 01:31:26,966
really seem to make sense anymore

1011
01:31:26,966 --> 01:31:28,226
and we've been talking about that

1012
01:31:28,226 --> 01:31:29,826
we're talking about the plebs

1013
01:31:29,826 --> 01:31:32,046
give themselves political pronouns

1014
01:31:32,046 --> 01:31:33,926
pioneers are defining

1015
01:31:33,926 --> 01:31:36,526
the new political framework

1016
01:31:36,526 --> 01:31:38,126
where do you stand?

1017
01:31:38,126 --> 01:31:43,886
we're going to start partitioning it like this but uh i think that's under under further review

1018
01:31:43,886 --> 01:31:54,306
you're you're probably political fluid yeah i'm i'm poly political you might say we're non-binary

1019
01:31:54,306 --> 01:31:58,466
we're non-binary we're not that republican we're not left right we're non-binary

1020
01:31:58,466 --> 01:32:03,166
my political that's what you call centrists from now on

1021
01:32:03,166 --> 01:32:10,586
that yeah but that's the center non-binary is now a center of the discussion in the united states

1022
01:32:10,586 --> 01:32:16,846
yeah exactly oh yeah understandable so the next uh we got just a few more here we got

1023
01:32:16,846 --> 01:32:22,046
btc on board he gave us 300 sats and some thumbs up pies hit us with a couple more

1024
01:32:22,046 --> 01:32:27,886
hundred sat boosts saying he's all about zeus he loves lose bullish brah

1025
01:32:27,912 --> 01:32:31,492
And when is Evan Z's podcast?

1026
01:32:31,692 --> 01:32:33,572
Well, that's what this podcast is.

1027
01:32:33,772 --> 01:32:36,412
Thank you for that.

1028
01:32:36,412 --> 01:32:38,412
And then CPOBV.

1029
01:32:38,812 --> 01:32:39,692
Hunter Saps.

1030
01:32:39,952 --> 01:32:40,492
Some emojis.

1031
01:32:40,752 --> 01:32:41,472
Gary, what's up, Gary?

1032
01:32:43,092 --> 01:32:44,332
And pies and pies.

1033
01:32:45,792 --> 01:32:46,152
Oh, yeah.

1034
01:32:47,892 --> 01:32:48,252
Average.

1035
01:32:48,352 --> 01:32:49,332
Oh, that's average Gary.

1036
01:32:49,512 --> 01:32:50,052
Average Gary.

1037
01:32:50,352 --> 01:32:55,252
He's the spy, the spook over in Maryland.

1038
01:32:57,132 --> 01:32:57,652
Yeah.

1039
01:32:57,912 --> 01:33:02,452
awesome we want to average every one of our favorite feds um

1040
01:33:02,452 --> 01:33:08,052
thank you for coming on charlie this has been great uh

1041
01:33:08,052 --> 01:33:14,652
what uh what do you want to say like what's what's what's going on with block space what's

1042
01:33:14,652 --> 01:33:19,232
your plan here for what's what's the reading the rest of the summer how are you celebrating

1043
01:33:19,232 --> 01:33:27,892
bitcoin paper bitcoin summer um actually this uh unironically we are

1044
01:33:27,892 --> 01:33:39,312
hiring actually, preferably EU based reporters. I want prolific people who can report on Bitcoin

1045
01:33:39,312 --> 01:33:57,057
and crypto industry news So we already hired one person And we gonna hire more you if you think you have the chops to go I mean just go look at the stories we write And if you think you can compliment that

1046
01:33:57,177 --> 01:33:58,417
then hit us up.

1047
01:33:59,197 --> 01:33:59,637
Otherwise,

1048
01:33:59,777 --> 01:34:00,557
but for block space,

1049
01:34:00,557 --> 01:34:02,117
we're focusing on growth,

1050
01:34:02,197 --> 01:34:06,457
which is actually much more difficult than it looks.

1051
01:34:06,617 --> 01:34:08,037
I just don't know if I'm like,

1052
01:34:08,057 --> 01:34:09,657
I don't think it's hard to,

1053
01:34:09,737 --> 01:34:11,237
it's hard to get people to listen to you.

1054
01:34:11,237 --> 01:34:13,177
If you're not pumping a ticker,

1055
01:34:13,177 --> 01:34:20,297
it's like really difficult and so trying to figure out how to keep people get people listening without

1056
01:34:20,297 --> 01:34:26,097
they're promising an airdrop there there's some there's a few ways you could do it you can start

1057
01:34:26,097 --> 01:34:32,117
using open mouth thumbnails that that's a tried and true method and the recent one that i learned

1058
01:34:32,117 --> 01:34:42,217
of today was uh saying the words bitcoin backflip yeah uh hurdle rate that's a good one

1059
01:34:42,217 --> 01:34:44,377
gotta

1060
01:34:44,377 --> 01:34:47,437
gotta come up with new words like

1061
01:34:47,437 --> 01:34:49,137
hurdle rate yeah but so I mean

1062
01:34:49,137 --> 01:34:50,277
block space we're

1063
01:34:50,277 --> 01:34:53,057
we have a pretty normal summer

1064
01:34:53,057 --> 01:34:55,457
and then we will be announcing we did

1065
01:34:55,457 --> 01:34:57,637
our we did a bitcoin technical conference

1066
01:34:57,637 --> 01:34:59,377
this year

1067
01:34:59,377 --> 01:35:01,637
and last year our bitcoin scaling

1068
01:35:01,637 --> 01:35:02,737
conference up next

1069
01:35:02,737 --> 01:35:05,377
all the smartest people we will announce

1070
01:35:05,377 --> 01:35:16,302
a 2026 one sometime so That is a that probably been the most fun thing i ever worked on

1071
01:35:16,302 --> 01:35:21,262
and the most gratifying thing i've ever worked on actually i say this with sincerity because like we

1072
01:35:21,262 --> 01:35:28,762
managed to get some things happen which i kind of didn't ever think would happen got got people

1073
01:35:28,762 --> 01:35:32,822
talk who wouldn't otherwise have spoken to each other ever.

1074
01:35:33,682 --> 01:35:36,842
And so I do get a lot of gratification of that.

1075
01:35:36,962 --> 01:35:39,682
And it's a profitable, it's been a profitable endeavor so far.

1076
01:35:39,782 --> 01:35:46,242
So we will be doing another conference like that sometime.

1077
01:35:47,162 --> 01:35:47,262
Yeah.

1078
01:35:47,262 --> 01:35:51,422
How much gratification would you get out of it if Dennis Porter emceed it?

1079
01:35:51,422 --> 01:35:54,722
um

1080
01:35:54,722 --> 01:35:58,782
uh

1081
01:35:58,782 --> 01:36:00,962
I would ask

1082
01:36:00,962 --> 01:36:03,422
Dennis to pass a basic

1083
01:36:03,422 --> 01:36:05,382
literacy test about node

1084
01:36:05,382 --> 01:36:06,922
relay policy first

1085
01:36:06,922 --> 01:36:08,882
and then he can

1086
01:36:08,882 --> 01:36:11,042
uh then he can host it

1087
01:36:11,042 --> 01:36:12,682
hold them to

1088
01:36:12,682 --> 01:36:15,102
five standards that's the

1089
01:36:15,102 --> 01:36:16,622
that's the way yeah

1090
01:36:16,622 --> 01:36:19,222
name me the six bootstrapping

1091
01:36:19,222 --> 01:36:20,462
nodes for bitcoin core

1092
01:36:20,462 --> 01:36:27,082
he could answer that no problem inbound and outbound peers can you have by default he's

1093
01:36:27,082 --> 01:36:38,028
he read mastering bitcoin so many times that it falling apart the cover fell off yeah yeah he like the pages they all stuck together

1094
01:36:38,028 --> 01:36:49,528
last last question for you charlie i think it's why everybody wants to know

1095
01:36:49,528 --> 01:36:57,728
when is block space doing its back becoming a paper bitcoin treasury company when you go in public

1096
01:36:57,908 --> 01:37:02,488
we made the mistake of buying Bitcoin and not telling anybody about it,

1097
01:37:02,588 --> 01:37:06,988
which is rule number one mistake, mistake number one.

1098
01:37:09,248 --> 01:37:16,048
Yeah. So we are a Bitcoin treasury company. And when we,

1099
01:37:16,048 --> 01:37:19,308
when we manage, you know, someday we'll make it on that board,

1100
01:37:19,568 --> 01:37:21,908
that, that scoreboard of Bitcoin treasuries.net.

1101
01:37:22,268 --> 01:37:25,088
And I will craft a very, very good tweet.

1102
01:37:25,088 --> 01:37:29,908
someday will be higher than um your favorite mom and pops like subway shop or whatever

1103
01:37:29,908 --> 01:37:36,228
um i believe it yeah i believe it all right man

1104
01:37:36,228 --> 01:37:46,228
have a good one thanks for coming on thank you boys i like this podcast everything i say

1105
01:37:46,228 --> 01:37:52,068
uh does not i don't mean anything i say on here everything is a lie uh good night