The bodies of frozen plebs who crashed out in the fourth turning have barely started to thaw.
But that doesn't mean it's too early to start preparing for white goy summer.
This summer, the goyim are in charge.
That means pure, unadulterated goy sovereignty, the way the founding fathers intended.
White goy summer means leaving your Jewish lawyer on red.
No more kosher options at the barbecue.
And sunscreen is optional.
What better time to celebrate White Goy Summer than on America's 250th birthday?
After all, White Goy Summer is about liberation.
White Goy Summer is about remembering you can just do things.
You don't have to ask permission from the Jews to get drunk on cheap beer,
stuff your face with cool ranch Doritos, or drink and drive.
This summer, if we want to bomb Iran, we do it Goy style.
No Mossad invited.
Start preparing for White Goy Summer before it's too late.
Stock up on patriotic t-shirts, Toby Keith playlists, and reattaching your foreskin.
This is it.
This summer, our motto is goy big or goy home.
White goy summer.
I'm goyim to be there.
Are you?
One of the art types in securing Bitcoin and educating the masses and teaching the pleb
cannon fodder about the basics of bitcoin is the bitcoin think boy the bitcoin think boy
has furthered bitcoin to to all two highs to becoming a serious currency on the uh the world
stage there's been some pretty famous think boys throughout history there have been people like
michael bitstein there have been people like pierre richard there have been countless ones
that have paved the path for the man joining us tonight.
Our guest has a very interesting backstory,
having worked in the Bitcoin mining world
for companies like Riot Platforms,
small hosting companies,
writing ThinkBoy mining books,
the Bitcoin mining almanac.
today working as the uh chief of research or something something some made up funny uh
think boy title at bitcoin park joining us tonight is uh rob warren used to go buy bikes in bitcoin
has a more professional think boy uh handle now on twitter rob how you doing tonight it's a pleasure
I'm walking in the thought steps of giants, really.
You know, during Paper Bitcoin summer last year,
we learned that Bitcoin companies,
especially publicly traded paper Bitcoin companies,
they each needed a podcaster.
And the ones that had the best podcasters,
they typically did, their stocks did better.
and the ones who didn't have podcasters,
you know,
they scrambled to get some and some of them over did it.
They went and got cobblers for the podcasters.
They spent too much money.
Their stock is suffering right now.
Uh,
but they think that they,
that going forward,
they'll need podcasters.
Do you think that there are certain companies,
they need to have a think boy strategy.
They need to have,
they need to like the C-suite needs to be like this chief think boy officer.
And you have the military has one Jason Lowry.
Um,
OnlyFans has one Robert Breedlove.
Companies need ThinkBoys.
And that's what you would do.
So how would you, he just mocked you.
He'd do all your ThinkBoys credentials, which we thought we shouldn't do.
We shouldn't do little people's credentials like that.
How would you explain the value that a ThinkBoys brings to a Bitcoin company, a VC-backed company?
It's a good question.
I think the first thing is that I think it's the love of the game that really brings everyone into the fold.
They say Think Boys have to be forged, not simply LLM or emergent from some sort of AI.
There has to be enough of a personality behind what's in there.
And really, it's a question of what is in there to keep the paper Bitcoin summer going.
And I think if there was a big failure that we had from paper Bitcoin summer into fall and then winter, it was that we were over leveraging a lot of the suit coining.
We were over leveraging a lot of the podcasting.
And no offense to you guys, because you are doing the Lord's work with 40 hours per week.
But I think there's a gap there that needs to be filled. Maybe a ThinkBoy winter, maybe ThinkBoy spring break. There are options for ThinkBoys out there. I think they need to get together. They need to talk about their thoughts. They need to share their thoughts. And they need to recognize that there's a fundamental paradox to the ThinkBoy.
And this is where I think the podcaster will always excel beyond the think boy, because the podcaster works in the spoken language.
You know, you say it and you make it so.
You've brought it into the world and you shared it with people.
And people can say, you know, I heard from the esteemed journalist Richard Grease or I heard from the journalist Rod Palmer that this has happened.
And so you're shaping their thoughts in a way that they know they're being shaped.
They're getting their 40 hours.
But nobody wants to learn.
Everybody wants to be in college at the party.
They don't want to be at the lecture.
And so if the think boy succeeds, if the think boy succeeds, he's totally invisible because he got the thought into your head, but he doesn't get the credit for it.
You take the credit.
That's the real paradox of the think boy is that once you get the thought in there, you've succeeded.
It's not your thought anymore.
Yeah, I'm glad you said that.
I think the best, most successful podcasters are like similar to us and Peter McCormick is we don't pretend to be think boys and too many podcasters pretend to be think boys.
And, you know, you I think you said it right.
Think boys need to be in the group chats.
They need to be think boy group chats.
They need to have think boy group chats and they need to, you know, builders build in the bear market.
Think boys think in the bear market.
That's right. This poses a risk, though. This poses a risk, though, is that if you're doing, you have a risk of actually over-indexing on your thought-to-doing ratio, and typically it's something that we see in bull markets.
So there really is kind of a four-year cycle of the Think Boy that I think we should definitely think more about, to be frank.
During the bull market, the Think Boy is emerging.
Every thought is gold.
And it's easy.
It's easy to think up only when everything is up only.
But when things are turning and they're going down, it's getting a little tough.
It's all the builders in the bear market.
These guys are the ones that are getting all the credit.
The Think Boys, they have to switch the gears.
And very few Thinkboys can actually be cyclical Thinkboys, which I think is probably why you see some of our forefathers of the Thinkboy universe, the Bitsteins and the Rochards, and I'm glad that you brought them up.
It's very hard to have lived through a number of cycles as they have.
Absolutely.
You know, one of the things I think is really important for Thinkboys and for Bitcoin podcasters to be thinking about is how to how to sign off the younger generations.
it's not being complete and total retards, right?
Like there's a ton of effort being put into psyoping them
into just being, you know, TikTok brains
and, you know, just not putting a lot of thought into things.
You know, I say the word psyop not necessarily
because we're trying to do anything malicious to anybody,
but you're counteracting the psychological operations of, you know, other people that,
of the Epstein list, for example, that wants the broccoli haircuts,
the greatest aspiration in life to grow up to be a good taxpayer.
So, you know, I don't think there's an emphasis on this enough in the Bitcoin ecosystem.
Natalie Brunel is probably one of the pioneers of trying to reach younger generations.
I know Matt and Marty talk about it a lot.
You're a parent.
You're a think boy.
You care about the future.
What do you think, as a think boy, being a role model to young aspiring think boys,
like how do you how do you go about doing that and and how do you impart excitement about being
a think boy to broccoli haircuts you know i don't think you can i think uh i think in a sense you
know think boys have to be forged they have to be tormented uh you have to have really really
nerdy hobbies in high school you got to be in journalism uh not in the 40 hours a week journalism
like traditional high school journalism,
you got to be on the fencing team.
Like when you do this stuff,
you could be forged into somebody
who could become a think boy.
It's not a life that you want to prescribe to people.
You know what I think what I think may be the most important thing you could do is you could help strengthen people to be aware of the glaze
I think if you can be aware of the glaze, if you want to, everyone wants to raise children that are aware of the glaze.
You don't give them a dare, like a stop smoking type program in school.
You give them just a glaze consciousness.
You say, okay, is this glaze? Is this not glaze?
Are you glazing or are you not glazing?
And if that's the one thing that you could give to your kids,
I think it would be a success, right?
Because we don't know what the PSYOP is going to be in five years.
You know, first it's the climate communism.
And after the climate communism,
there was the follow-up of the COVID communism.
And now it's the ICE communism.
and, you know, whatever can get these kids in the street glazing as hard as they possibly can,
you know, they're going to push it.
They're going to push it.
But the best thing we could possibly do is just teach these kids that, like,
you're going to be forced to glaze.
But be conscious.
You don't have to glaze.
That's, you know, part of the reason that everybody's glazing
is because they're learning it from ChatGDT because ChatGDT is glazing us.
the ultimate laser now one of the problems and i'm curious if you agree is that because of chat
gpt everybody thinks they're a think boy everybody's going on chat gpt and they're getting theories
from chat gpt and they're and they're coming out and they're they're posting these long
kind of you know copy paste from chat gpt on the timeline and they're trying to post these think
boy pieces um and you know and it's but the problem is that you and you kind of mentioned it
you have to be in journalism eyes or you have to take fancy you have to be bullied you have to be
called retarded by shinobi you have to be uh you have to you have to struggle and trying to be a
think boy with jadgett removes the soul because it removes the struggle and so these think boys
they don't they don't they aren't using first principles they're just they're just they're
taking a theory and they're just smearing glaze over it and they're giving it out there
and hoping that people will think that it's deep. Is the era of the think boy gone? Is it dead?
That's the question, right? You know, the podcasters are eternal. You just need one
microphone. And the podcasting voice can remain eternal. But the think boy, is the think boy,
is it a dying breed now?
This is a question.
Are they, you know, at one point in time
in the mid-20th century,
300,000 people in the U.S.
were switchboard operators.
They were managing phone lines.
I don't know any switchboard operators.
Maybe somebody's grandma, right?
Is the Thinkboy going the way
of the switchboard operator?
um that that's a good question i i don't i don't think so ultimately and i i think it's important to
criticize the individuals that are spewing slop slop thought so like cory clipston for example
he's been doing this recently so he had this post where he was he fed all of mark goodwin's work
into Grok.
Yeah.
Or Claude or whichever one it was.
And he spewed out just this whole bunch of slop
that didn't even make any sense,
proving that he didn't read it.
You know, Corey's just been on this.
He was never a think boy.
He always wanted to be a think boy.
He threw a conference to hang out with all the think boys
because he wanted to be accepted by the think boys.
But, you know, he has been on this constant crash out, right?
And Corey's crash out and Corey's failings to be a think boy is a great example to showcase to the broccoli haircuts of this guy is, we just need to make fun of him.
But yeah, one of the questions I think is, you know, we're seeing with the Epstein files, there seems to be this theme around a Goy uprising.
Have you seen this?
And, you know, like Rod and I have been tweeting about the Goyes.
It's going to be white Goy summer or white Goyam summer.
the question i have for you is can the boys be think boys oh yeah of course
you brother so you think that
if i have white privilege i can suffer enough to be a think boy
because some people would disagree with that
well how much do you have is the bigger question
well that's dc nobody everybody wants to everybody wants to nobody wants to look at the
intersectionality of it some people have they they're hoarding the white privilege and some
people are just scraping by this white privilege inflation and it's like i can barely afford
to pay my taxes yeah the pros that i was given at birth
I mean, I think the move is really going to look out and see if there is going to be a white Goy summer.
What are your takes? It's been incredible.
There's a deep story in the word Goy.
It's like there's a lot of history there.
And so we're seeing one face of it, which is interesting enough coming from the Epstein files.
i think i think that people i think there's a little bit of uncertainty i think it's people
are right to feel a little bit nervous like if you think of white boy summer it's like oh boy
boys will be boys but rowdy i've seen i've seen roadhouse they're they have toxic masculinity
white boy summer is gonna be rowdy and i just want to stay out of the way and they you know
you've seen white boy summer and they're like they probably have they've probably seen some
Some people probably feel the same vibes from that.
Oh, they're nervous about it.
Is it going to be fun and inclusive White Goie Summer,
or is it going to be chip on the shoulder White Goie Summer?
I don't know.
I think it depends.
I think it depends on the –
first, it depends on what the track list of summer is going to be.
If there's an album that comes out, it could change the course of history.
The Spotify playlist.
So if the right Spotify playlist comes out and you get the right order, the right people listening to it, I think it could really shape the direction of this.
But generally speaking, I think, you know, White Coast Summer should be a blast.
Why not?
It should be, yeah.
It'll be interesting.
It'll be interesting to see if we have another paper Bitcoin summer.
I know there's been a lot of debate on that.
Right now it's looking good.
What are your expectations?
What is the weather report in the Bugle?
Grumpy plebs.
Yeah, everyone's grumpy.
It's the tourists, though.
It's the tourists.
Well, you know, the hedger, the groundhog side shadow.
So that's six more weeks of bear market.
Six more weeks of grumpy and six more weeks of no paper Bitcoin summer.
um so i'd say my take on it is right now is it's for the same reason that broccoli haircuts
are going to struggle to be think boys is because people their time preference is just too high
everyone needs to lower their time preference uh the the bull market paper bitcoin summer
the next Think Boy breakthrough piece,
like it's not coming.
You're not going to go be able to talk to Chad GTT tonight
and get it out tomorrow morning.
You're going to have to build up to it.
You're going to have to struggle.
We're going to have to struggle for a little while
before it gets fun again.
What if it never gets fun again, though?
That's the real thought.
That's the big Think Boy thought, right?
You know, there's something happening in the space
where the basis of a paper Bitcoin summer
is that we were still all kind of retarded.
And we were just excited
that the paper was now going to share in our retardation.
And we had just spent all this time,
all this time on Twitter,
all this time in the group chats,
all this time in the early Reddit,
famous moderated forums,
really just trapped in our own kind of retarded bubbles.
And then the big money came.
The question is, are they going to be influenced by us
or are we going to be influenced by them?
You know, when you stare into the abyss, it looks back into you.
When you look into the paper summer, the paper summer looks back into you.
And that's what made people grumpy.
They didn't like what they saw.
When they looked into the mirror and saw paper big quince on there
And what we learned is, or what I think we learned is that it was just soup corn or club slop.
That's what was all the hype.
That was all the excitement.
And it was about announcements, a lot of bullish announcements.
And people you know they love to be not hypnotized but it like a club slop lullaby Makes them feel good Makes them feel like you having fun Can I black pill really quickly Always
What if the plebslop won?
What if the bugle is one of the last bastions,
if not the last bastion of actual signal in the space?
And what if the plebslop wins
and it becomes 100% glaze all the time,
becomes 100% suit coin all the time,
and people start abusing the early lessons of 40 hours a week,
and they start doing crazy stuff.
They start saying, well, what if I only need 10 hours a week?
What if I just listen to the Breedlove tapes over and over again?
What if I just buy this OnlyFans subscription?
Is that enough?
You've kind of turned from it.
What happens if the pleb slop wins?
well i think it's just the definition of victory needs to be laid out clearly and
ultimately i think where a lot of people
struggle and they they fail is they they set unrealistic expectations for what victory looks
like and they're so hyper focused on the macro environment so like the general bitcoin ecosystem
them right the guy the guys that have been the sloppers the guys have been bought into slop
super hard their idea of victory is that all their retarded relatives that ask them about cardano
or say that bitcoin's a scam because jeffrey epstein is satoshi or whatever so they expect
all their retarded relatives to believe that they should go on the the carnivore diet that they
should listen to 40 hours of Bitcoin podcasts a week.
They think they're going to be walking around like royalty because they were an early adopter
of this currency and people in the grocery store are going to, they're going to be the
hometown heroes because that guy listened to podcasts in 2020 and everybody else is figuring
out in 2026, 2030.
I think that is the expectation that so many people have had and so they've gotten discouraged.
whereas you know what's going to happen you know ultimately is the plump slop is going to be
you know define a lot of people's lives like we see it defining a lot of people's lives right now
but then there's going to be a subset of people that are dialed into the signal like that's how
it's always been that's how it's always going to be to some degree there's no mass awakening
of uh everybody starting to smoke cigarettes and read out shrugged yeah you know what i mean
But there's going to be a very, very clear divergence between the direction that the plebs go and the pioneers go, where the plebs are going to be getting glazed by their AI chatbot.
Well, it's just going to be a fleshlight.
It's just going to be, yeah.
The future plebslop is literally, it's just going to be a fleshlight with Bluetooth headphones and maybe an Oculus.
Maybe you don't even need an Oculus.
Maybe it's just 40 hours a week with a fleshlight attached to it.
Pretty much.
Yeah, I mean, you can have an AI robot that you lease from Tesla, and it's going to have like a shape-shifting phase.
And so you can be getting blowjobs from your favorite Bitcoin podcaster as they're playing their Bitcoin podcast.
Sending them microtransactions via lightning while it's happening.
Yeah.
Yeah. Something that people have to understand is that PLEPS lab is a vector. And when you say it as one, it's from an individual perspective. PLEPS lab is now the new herbal raked.
you your job is to be more interesting and to create something that is
more worth is people have a short amount of time free time and your job is to create something that
is more worth their time than plebs law something they would take the time to go search out like
you remember it used to be you go to the record store and you'd you'd go through the see what was
available trying to find a good cd and then you take it home you listen to it and you listen to
all the songs and it you could hold him back to like when it was a cassette and you had to fast
forward and you had to split it over to rewind it just to find the right song but when you found a
good song felt so good you might share with people and it's you have to do now it's like
you're gonna have to sift to the slop to find something that was worth the effort that it took
to find it.
You know, Rod, it makes me think maybe the bigger message out here in this, you know,
the plebs and the pioneers is that you can still reach the plebs because if you produce
enough, enough high quality signal and it's not slop and you're not glazing, eventually
that's going to wind up in an anthropic training model somewhere.
And so on a long enough timeline,
that message is going to wind up in that fleshlight.
You become the slot you wish to see in the world.
That's right.
It's going to wind up in that fleshlight with those Bluetooth speakers.
And it has a chance maybe of reaching somebody at that moment.
Exactly.
Like we said earlier, you plant the thought in the think boy's head.
you don't it's not you're not going to get credit for you're not the podcaster you are playing you
are planting the signal in the slot machine and then this slot serves that signal it's a sly
roundabout way yeah that you were getting the signal into people's you're planting it in the
slot you plant the signal seed in the slot beautifully said they're they're you know the
The plebs are riled up right now.
Have you ever seen the plebs as angry as they are right now?
I don't think so.
You can't glaze them enough right now.
No.
No lot of glazes enough.
Maybe during the chain split when we got the BCH-BTC chain split,
but that was very different.
It was very different because it was something actually happening in the network.
You know, it wasn't, you couldn't think boy around a chain split.
a chain split is a chain split.
There were no thoughts to be had.
It was happening.
And maybe we've over-indexed.
We've gone too far down the slop casino
that people have kind of forgotten
what it's like to actually be a little bit nervous in Bitcoin.
It's sort of like the woke left
and then there was the woke right.
And now it's kind of the slopped plebs,
the plebs that have...
have kind of detached from the core. They've detached from the ethos.
And they're mad, but they're not quite sure why they're mad because they don't actually
really understand how Bitcoin works. But that's a part of being a pleb is not
understanding how Bitcoin works. That's true. So what's going to happen? Is this going to be
the great filter? Are we hitting the great filter where the pioneers go on and they get to
they get to cross the Red Sea
and all the plebs are just kind of flooded
when the waters come back together?
Is this the great exodus?
Is this what we're living through right now in Bitcoin?
It feels like we're in this moment
where the pioneers are really dropping off
into Galt's Gulch.
Yeah.
They're going away.
They're disappearing.
yeah well it the thing is is you don't have to breed uh mastering bitcoin cover to cover twice
a year to use and benefit bitcoin from bitcoin you don't need to be don't even know how to code
to use and benefit from bitcoin you you don't need to know every little thing about it but you
do need to understand how it works and part of the you get to these points where it's like the
plebs have studied the protocol they have mastered being able to use a strike wallet some of them
have built their own seat signer or they you know they've they've managed they've connected their
lightning channel to btc sessions on on the roll and they've they figure out the working parts but
They don't understand the culture and the consensus mechanisms.
And they crash out because they just don't understand how big it's not going to mold around their preferences and their values and their religion or their whatever it is.
Whatever is making them crash out or getting them riled up.
And then they have to accept that, you know, like we said, like, you have to accept that Adesina had more influence than you if you're Massey Crowder or you switch to Stim Spiral.
Do you think the plebs notice that the pioneers are disappearing, that they're falling off the radar?
They complain about it all the time.
They blame the pioneers for where they are, who were so-and-so to call out the scammer, et cetera.
And they upset about it It just like you know people in New York and California It like where are all the people who pay our taxes Where are they going We can eat them right now
Where are they going?
Just this week, we saw a series of influencers
trying to blame Noster for the disappearance of the pioneers.
Continued into the price crash.
It was Noster's fault.
Yeah.
I thought it was Nick Carter telling all the influencers about the quantum risk.
Well, you know, the plebs have all sorts of theories on the price tip.
Some say it's Core V30, which I think is a reasonable theory.
We're watching Core V30 crash the silver markets 15% today.
Hmm.
Core V30 is out.
Bitcoin core is out of control.
They are ruining the global economy by crashing precious metals.
Do you think gold too?
There and then the gold tank?
They are 100% in the core tank or gold tank.
Yeah, I mean, this is the revelation from the Epstein files is that core maintainers
maintainers like Shinobi are creating these Bitcoin development decisions on their private
islands.
And the plants have all sorts of theories about it.
You know, there's an interesting thing you bring up is it's almost a lesson in think
buoying gone wrong.
There's levels to this.
Anyone can have a theory, but if you haven't suffered, you know, if you haven't had that shoved in a locker, turbo wedgie kind of suffering, your theories, your theories can get a little unhinged.
You know, it all becomes glaze.
And I can see it's really a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The pioneers, they're seeing what's happening.
They're seeing the tidal wave coming.
and they're saying, okay, the mechanics,
the mechanics of the system work.
I can back away.
We got the engine started.
The engine's kind of running.
And yeah, all the new people are a little touched.
But the engine's running.
And meanwhile, you have everybody sitting there going,
okay, but who's driving the bus?
And they don't maybe understand
that Bitcoin doesn't have the driver.
They're still trying to call the CEO.
Well, I think this is the framing that has crippled the plebs from understanding.
You know, did you watch the Jeffrey Epstein interview with Steve Bannon out of curiosity?
No.
It was really interesting.
essentially you know Epstein
one of the things he kept on referencing and saying over and over again that when it came to
the traditional financial markets that everybody on Wall Street was just as retarded as everybody
else yeah it was like it was like he essentially said
that the people running the global financial system are you know some of them are smart but
Most of them are as dumb as plebs.
And I think the plebs have been so conditioned to believe in that somebody's always, you know, driving the bus, essentially.
Yeah, with the adults in the room.
Yeah, and they realize that, I mean, the reality is nobody's really an adult in the room until you decide to be the adult in the room.
Yeah.
So you...
That's a sage take.
That's not a...
That's a real take.
Wait, is Epstein a pleb or is he a pioneer?
Well, I would classify him as villain.
Definitely villain.
Different category, just the villain of the story.
Yeah.
I mean, like, in many ways, he's the inciting type event or character for
individuals to become heroes you know for the pioneer to set out on the journey of um
having to go in into you know the unknown realm like you know that's that's what drives the
pioneer to grow up from being a pleb and to go out on the frontier is these types of inciting
events of like you know they're they're like we don't want to be ruled by the pedophilic ruling
class class anymore see the class or was he the fall guy he's uh who's sitting behind him
right that's the it what was the who was controlling him or who was supporting it like that's the
he's gone if he if this was such an essential component of the system yeah what's been running
it since well and you know you could think of it that um since he died in 2019 things have kind of
unraveled it's like they need to fill the position because the whole system apparently he tied it
together there's a job application outstanding is what you're saying and it's on bitcoin or jobs.com
yeah it's kind of like when steve jobs died
yeah what did that do it just apple just paused like who's the tim cook replacement of like apple
didn't run the world but they had a large impact on the world to some degree they ran the world
apple is steve jobs and the place he created apple influence had more influence on the way
we get glazed by our technology yeah than anybody ever has i mean everything is
the gaze strategy the blueprint was made by by steve jobs and so keeping the government from
from imploding on itself and completely unraveling uh more nobody had more influence on that than
Jeff.
So maybe he was holding the whole fiat system together.
That's very interesting.
He was kind of the linchpin of all of the fakeness and all of the gayness.
He really tied it together.
And with his departure, the fiat system crumbles.
Is that what we're saying?
Yeah, it is.
Fiat is run on blackmail.
It has to be run on blackmail.
that's gone that's right it everybody is uh the game theory starts to uh to take place and
everybody starts to ease prediction markets and meme coins to front run each other and throw each
under the under the bus and use inside information to sneak you know to bet to benefit or to profit
at somebody else's expense because there's no there's nothing there's no black metal to hold
it all together anymore.
Essentially what Virginia Giuffre did was she open sourced the blackmail,
pretty much.
And it's like what the, you know, many plebs are trying to scramble now
with the Epstein files is to figure out how to leverage them
to blackmail Bitcoin influencers.
Hmm.
So you're saying the heart of the pleb is still fiat.
Well, I mean, it's just there's this,
this uh still following fiat and sentence yeah well you know the system in many ways it's it's uh
people are just trying to figure out how to pick up the pieces after it's unraveled you know this
is the first turning people are scrambling to try and put things back together and so there's a lot
of experimentation and one of the ways to experiment is like okay well we have access to the
to a very small amount of the Epstein files, supposedly, that probably exist.
Like, how can we leverage that?
Like, the politicians have been using this shit on each other for forever.
Yeah.
And the bankers and whatever.
Now it's open sourced.
Let's do it.
Yeah, what happens when you have an open source pedophilic blackmail ring?
I mean, that's the greatest risk to the fiat system, right?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it's...
Oh, good.
Well, I think in order to prevent or in order to figure out a way out is because everybody's trying to pick up the pieces and put things back together, like you said, that they're noticing like all the pieces, all the component parts are contaminated by all the blackmail that built it.
And so it's like it's a cancer that is metastasized throughout the entire system.
and that's kind of why it fell apart and so it's like we have to start over but
you have to get past that point so i think that with what we've got now is like all those files
the three million emails tons of redactions the way they have to do is they have to announce that
they're going to do all the remove all the redactions release everything unredacted
But we're not doing it for one year, 18 months.
And then you let everybody create prediction markets over whose names are redacted.
And if you, you know, if you had inside information, because you were somebody who was a victim of somebody in those files, you have inside, you can, you can win.
You can get a monetary reward for your pain and suffering that has caused you.
You're not going to get justice most likely.
This is probably the only justice you're going to get is that you can profit off of this if you traded on prediction markets.
And then because the governments have corrupt care of what they're going to do what they do best,
which is get in and insider trading on the prediction markets.
And they're going to go and they're going to use their inside access to figure out as in the files.
and then profit off it on Polymarket and Predix.
This is the last dying breath of the fourth turning into the first turning.
This is when everything becomes uncanny and bizarre,
when you're trading a fake game with a fake game on top of it.
Everything is coming to the surface.
Nobody knows what's real or what's not real.
The plebs, I don't fault the plebs for being so confused,
and I don't fault the pioneers for just,
putting their heads down and and ducking undercover it's i mean yeah i mean the
things are incredibly uncanny bizarre like you know for example this week marty bent turned his
skin silver and started podcasting about silver and then the price of silver dropped 15 percent
and then you had um you know matthew cratter coming out and releasing you know a crash out
about how his old roommate was the fed chair and then you um uh it seems like you know he said he
has gone what's that he said he went to college with the devil yeah he went to college with the
devil you know the epstein files say that sailors a creep and isn't cool enough to hang out with them
you've got
it's like almost every week
one of the four horsemen at PodConf
is like on the verge of getting
devoted
Bailey has crashed and burned
super hard
it's
yeah I mean we're in weird times
to say the least
what does it mean for podcasters because Think Boys
you know Think Boys they
they never die
You know, you can be a think boy at any scale.
It's kind of scale invariant.
You can be a think boy at the highest scales,
or you can be a think boy at your kitchen table.
It's a little bit different when you're in the podcasting world
because the podcasting world, you have the people that you're accountable to.
You know, the think boy, the think boy.
There's a form of the think boy that just waxes poetic and goes to Walden Pond,
And that's still a legitimate form of think boy to be thinking all by oneself.
But a podcaster, you know, a podcaster is not a podcaster without the podcast listener.
You have to be willing to podcast without an audience.
And that is, it doesn't matter what the price is.
It doesn't matter what turning you're in.
You have to be willing to do it without an audience.
and if you do, they will come.
You can be a big boy in the first turning,
it just is what is the fourth turning, you're right.
And people need to realize that if you can make it here,
if you can make it in the turning you're in,
you can make it in the next one.
You just have to be willing to dive to the slop
and to the other side.
So that's the announcement that you guys aren't going away
in the bear market?
It's not the plan.
But it's, yeah, I mean, it's not will we go away in a bear market.
It's will everybody else.
I mean, I'm prepared to just talk in the void.
I feel like I've been doing that most of my life anyways.
I'm not afraid of talking in the void.
What distinguishes you from the think boy then?
um that is probably just a big the biggest differentiation is uh
iq level likely like i'm a i'm a journalist for a reason
yeah we're we're we report we report the news we report the
the revisions the changes the culture we we just report what the mirror is reflecting back
And the think boy listens and the think boy thinks about those reflections and reflects on those reflections and shares a thoughtful reaction.
because if you if you react passionately or angrily or uh uh you probably or credulously
to everything it's just it's too much it's too crazy doesn't make sense it's illogical
you will scramble your brain because you're taking in and reacting to too many contrasting
conflicting pieces of information if you wait for the think boy who has a thoughtful reaction
it you it compresses the entropy and gives you more of a a logical explanation that you can that
you can use to get your benefit i feel that it's kind of a yin yang right that you have these uh
These forces of chaos, these forces, these very entropic forces that have to be sort of monitored and guided in a sense.
Yeah, it's riding the elephant.
It's the Danny Kahneman fast and slow, you say.
So one other question for you guys is what thoughts are you most bullish on in the coming White Goyce summer?
Are there specific thoughts that you think are going to get the most purchase thoughts that you think are under leveraged under indexed I love to go down that whole avenue and say you know where do journalists see the world of thought moving in the coming months
Slop.
Slop has a, like, it's a pejorative.
It has negative connotations because slop is common.
Slop is vulgar, and so is the truth.
The truth is common.
the truth is ugly the truth is vulgar it's offensive so people don't like the slop but if
you stop if you look at it dispassionately and you observe the slop you start to see you start
to see is you start to see that it is the truth and if if the slop is the truth and the slop is
how we imagine the future and it's in be using the slop and how many people have access to you
to the slop now to imagine their future.
If you can imagine the future, you're more likely to go into,
if you can imagine the first turning, you're more likely to go,
to leave the fourth turning.
So the slop is the way people use to cope and to comfort
and to imagine the future.
They have the courage to take that step.
yeah i i think like what many of the white goys are excited about for the summer
is i think they're anticipating finally getting their n-word privileges back
when dennis when donald trump he he called tim walds a fucking retard that was a big moment for
america yeah i mean you probably noticed that the the big shift in the overton window with the with
the death of uh most of the political correctness it was like a light switch when when donald trump
got selected all of a sudden it was okay to say gay and retard and it wasn't edgy anymore you go
on youtube and every fucking podcaster saying gay and retard yeah even even tim pool's calling tim
malt a retard and um uh i think that's just people are excited to get their n-word privileges back
do you have an estimated date like people always predict what the top price of bitcoin is going to
be at a certain date do you do you have an estimated date for when the uh when the n-word
pass all when it's it's fully open fully available i think it's fourth of july yeah interesting and
who is there going to be a notable because we can set up the poly market right now is there um
is there a person that's going to say it um is we need like a um a kanye west post katrina
george bush doesn't care about black people like what what's going to be the moment that leaves
Austin Powers standing there just absolutely stunned.
Because we could make a polymarket on this right now.
Well, I believe, so this 4th of July is a big one for a reason.
It's the 250th birthday of the United States.
Yeah.
Right?
And I think Donald Trump, he's going to be glazing himself in D.C.
doing a big speech, might do a parade.
He brought the parades back.
Yeah.
And right there, then there, he might drop the hard R.
Do you think they're going to bring Robert E. Lee back?
Well, I mean, one of the headlines I saw today is that he's constructing a Christopher Columbus statue on the White House.
So, yeah, I mean, I think they're probably going to bring back all the Southern Confederate generals in one way or another.
Yeah, I think I agree.
We did not plan this ad, but it's funny because it's the same reason.
Fourth of July, 250th birthday.
And, you know, if Andrew T. said it, nobody's going to be surprised.
If Owen Benjamin said it, it's not going to be shocking.
It's not going to change the world.
If somebody from the left said it, they already are, right?
They're calling, they're yelling at it, I see it.
It's apparently in Minneapolis now.
but what's going to happen is it's going to be the 4th of july and it's
he's going to get up there he's you're talking about like bringing people back he's going to
bring kramer from seinfeld he's going to bring him back and he's going to give him his redemption
he's going to let him say it and people are going to just like oh my goodness yeah it's it's going
to unleash it again just like in 2024 after the election the hr ladies are going to be on their
heels and um it's it's it's gonna be a there's gonna be a lot of karaoke a lot of guys singing
in their cars and they're it's it's it's not gonna be so aggressive it's just gonna be uh like a a
relief valve it's like i can say i could say when i'm singing lyrics to drake or kanya
i can just repeat all the lyrics and everybody's just gonna kind of um kind of come to an agreement
that's like, it's fine to sing it at karaoke.
Like, you know what I mean?
Trump's probably going to say it to Ketanji Brown Jackson,
to be honest.
Her or Ilan Omar.
Because who else would be on stage?
There's a select group of people
that he can even be yelling these things at.
Yeah, Ilan Omar.
He's just going to call Cash, but tell.
Or it could be like in a cool...
Or Dr. Ben Carson.
It could be Ben Carson.
that would be but he'll say it with the with the soft a so it'll be a lot of it's not going to be
and people are expecting because they don't like him and he's a mean guy they think he's going to
use the hard r and he's going to use it like in a mean way but he's going to say it in a loving way
he's going to do like dr ben carson he's my you know he's going to say it and carson's going to
be like give him a hug and it's going to be like all right yeah it's cool just thug out on the
stage yeah they do what they do could be it could be nikki minaj
that's probably could be she's been filming videos political videos now
she she loves trump what do you think erica kirk gonna do for the fourth of July celebration The fireworks that she going to come out to are going to be like those Chinese fireworks that just freaking the biggest ones in the world
She's definitely going to come out with the sparklers coming out of her bazoongas.
It's going to be, the summer's going to be great.
I'm so excited for the summer.
It's going to be great.
I'm bullish.
So it's a bullish outlook for the pioneers.
I mean, the plebs are going to have a really hard time.
Yeah.
You know, what does this mean for, and maybe there's a bigger historical point, right?
You know, maybe there's the very famous kind of Jordan Peterson when he was fighting that Canadian bill around forced speech.
and his whole thing as a, in the world of Jungian psychiatry and psychology,
was that if you can control someone's speech, you incidentally make them control their thoughts,
right? If you live in the wokest of the worlds and people are constantly self-policing their
language, what you're actually doing is you're kind of soft-policing their thoughts, you're
censoring their mind. And we've been trapped in this forth-turning world where people can't even
think outside of the Overton window. It's very interesting that this, you know, with the return
of retard, the return of gay and retarded, it's opening people's minds in a very strange way.
They're realizing, wow, I don't have to think. I don't have to think on the
on the communist agenda anymore.
I don't have to,
I don't have to dye my hair blue.
I don't have to put my pronouns in something.
I can use the retard word.
Are we reclaiming the mind?
Is this what people are nervous about?
Is that the word is now,
it's not just that it's a bad word.
It's a word that frees people
into being a little more gay
and a little more retarded.
And maybe that's the essence of individual freedom is the freedom to do that or to be that.
I think it's the freedom to not be gay or retarded.
Like if you eliminate people's ability to name the thing, you can't criticize it, right?
So there's a tremendous, like, you know, I think this is a big moment.
the zoomers and the broccoli haircuts have the word gay and retard like the boomers had acid and
rock and roll music it's definitely it's definitely leading to an expansion of the mind i agree right
and and the summer is like is is the is the wood sock instead of getting together and taking the
acid it's it's getting together you know and also in retard together taking chinese peptides
doing the 6-7 meme
it's going to be a peptide summer too
are you guys on the peptide game?
not yet
I don't know
I don't know how to get the peptides
it's the new meta
you have to get into
into a group
that takes you to a reddit
that takes you to a forum
that takes you to a telegram channel
where you have to whatsapp somebody
who is in China
so they're always asleep when you're awake
and awake when you're asleep
and then you could buy the magic peptides.
A Nostra.
That would be immense if they could really get their Nostra game.
It's going to be a peptide summer too.
Probably KYC peptides.
I have heard of the peptides.
It seems to definitely be a tech bro trend for sure.
I think it's going mainstream.
It's going mainstream.
And it started with the Ozempic, right?
the semaglutide, because everybody was poking. And, you know, that's a very optimistic thing.
It's taking people from being fully glazed all the time and giving them an opportunity to be a
little bit more of a pioneer when you can see your toes. You can get up, your knees don't hurt so
much. Maybe you could be a pioneer. You could envision yourself as a pioneer. Ozempic could do
that to you. I think that, you know, peptides, it's going to be a peptide summer. It's going to
be happening in conjunction with the fourth turning, with White Goy Summer. It's going to
be an age of Aquarius. It's all going to be emerging all at once. And it's going to be
unbelievable the kind of thoughts that people can be thinking at that point, you know, just
from my perspective. So, I mean, we've seen this huge massive shift as a result of Ozempic.
there were a lot like it was epic killed the body positive movement yes overnight and uh
what what resulted from that i mean there were like a lot of these i don't remember you know
because i don't pay attention to you know fat lame artists but you know there was like this famous
body positive fat artist that became skinny because of those epic and then got canceled by
you know the fat people um you know there's individuals like mike brock you know he used
to be fat he started taking those epic he got real skinny the peptides i think the way that
you're describing you know there's very real potential that this summer people start walking
around incredibly jacked and so like the average bitcoin podcaster is going to go from like a
marty bent to robert breedlove overnight right and there's going to be this massive shift of just
like incredibly like jacked, ripped, high testosterone.
Man, you know, going from these skinny OZEPA,
is that kind of what you're thinking the peptide summer is going to be?
You know, it could be, but at the end of the day,
you have to have a foundation, right?
You have to have a foundation.
You can't, you can do the peptides.
You know, I think people should do them.
They should do them.
They should heal faster.
They should make their hair grow in thick.
They should make their skin nicer and get slim and try them.
Give them a test But you use them like the little kick in the butt to get you out the door right When the summer comes you going to see the same thing
It's always plebs and pioneers.
The folks who used the Ozempic, but they didn't work out, they didn't jump into being a pioneer,
they're going to have that flabby skin, right?
They're going to be flopping around.
It's going to sound like it's clapping when they're walking.
The guys who got to the gym, they took the Ozempic.
They said, but you know what?
I want to get jacked.
I want to drive this bus.
I really want to build the body.
They're going to be walking around.
They're going to have really earned it, you know?
I think there's a lot of paths to the summit.
There's a lot of directions to go.
Yeah.
People aren't going to walk around looking like Pleb Cruz as much.
Right.
People will be able to tell whether or not you listen to 40 hours per week
or whether you had a digest on Chad Chiquity.
Yeah.
Kind of wrapping this up, Rob, what's got you optimistic?
What's got you bullish?
What's got you excited about the future as things are looking, you know,
very interesting in the very beginnings of the first turning?
I think it's all optimism.
It's all positive. You got to be conscious of the demoralization campaign.
And once you remember that it's just a demoralization campaign, that's all it is.
That's all it is, you know? And it could be a big one. It could be a small one.
It could be something backed by billions of dollars. It could be something happening in your front yard.
If it's a demoralization campaign and you know it's a demoralization campaign, okay, that's fine.
You know, you sit down, you go to your desk, you write a new article.
You do some real journalism.
You listen to your 40 hours.
And that's all you need.
This is mana.
This is what's going to get you to the promised land.
It's all back to basics.
It's going to be the back to basics bear market.
So that's the optimism is because we already know that this protocol works.
protocol in terms of like, you know, the Bitcoin protocol, protocol in terms of just,
you know, staying humble, doing what you do, stacking sets, producing good content,
staying away from the glaze, everything that your mom told you growing up,
except maybe smoking cigarettes. She should have said, smoke a pack of Marlboros a day.
But it's just back to basics. And, you know, thank God we're long enough in the Bitcoin game
that we kind of know what the basics are. So you can just relax. You can let the,
You can let the psyop pass you by, and you can just do your work.
And that, I think, is the most optimistic thing.
I think we're going to see craziness.
We're going to see things exploding, things going up and down.
But we know the path now.
We've got a few years under our belt, and there's nothing better than experience.
Absolutely.
We're hardened.
We're prepared for this.
We're battle-tested.
Ready.
Podcasters are made, not born.
you're called
you're the call of the bugle
become a podcaster
well you got
you got any
thing that you want to tell the world
before we wrap this one up
no I couldn't possibly end with a glaze
well I can
it's just been a pleasure with these esteemed
journalists
we always offer our guests the final
blaze. Journalism is rare
in this industry and the more that we
can promote it,
the more that we can celebrate it, the more that we can share it.
That's what
we have to do.
The privilege is mine.
Well, thank you very
much for coming on, Rob.
You truly are
a pioneer in this industry
and
appreciate your time.
Likewise.
Amen, but make it ironic
Way you tired, fun already mad at me
Timeline screaming like it's gospel or blasphemy
Everybody preaching from a sponsor seat
Selling me like a dropship prophecy
That's that Bitcoin, faces this just wait
Been waiting since I learned how to conjugate
I still feel love at the family play
Past the bros, past the cold, past the blame
Praise the Lord, praise the feet
Everybody hold it when they're retweeted
Ladies and gentlemen, pick a side
Act surprised when it's all vibes and lies
Ladies and gentlemen, hands up high
Mirror selfies, moral high ground, right?
Bitcoin fixes, yeah, yeah, sure
But I'm still bored and the rent's still more
I'ma say you kids got it easy
But my future look like a Lotus Grand Freezy
They see stacks, sets like it's therapy
I stacked anxiety and some irony
Everyone plays in their own reflection
Call it truth when it fits their direction
Left side, right side, same obsession
Different bonds, same need for validation
Praise the Lord, praise the need
Everybody hold me when they're retreated
Praise the Lord, pick a side
Act surprised when it's all wild and lie
Praise the Lord, hands up high
Echo chamber choir singing lullabies Bitcoin fixes, yeah, yeah, sure
Still no peace in the terms of service Amen to the cope, amen to the slop
Amen to the take that never stops If God's real, he's tired of the posts
In the comment sections, the closest hell I know
They say I'ma go up, just believe I believe in burnout in Christmas Eve
I got one meaning, not another threat
Not another told your soul from a guy named Ted
Praise the Lord
Softly now
Lord alive
So love me out
Praise the Lord
Let me rest, I'm tired of winning other people's best
Bitcoin fixes, maybe someday
But tonight I'm just raising my own decay
Praise the Lord