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I'm back to podcasting on Noster.

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It's been a while.

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For those jumping in,

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I am interviewing Efrat Fennison,

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journalist, public speaker,

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host of the Your Voice podcast.

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And correct me if I'm wrong, Efrat,

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you were a former tech executive?

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Marketing?

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Mm-hmm.

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And professional troublemaker as well.

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Oh.

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Apparently.

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I'm sure we'll have plenty of questions around that.

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I guess before continuing, for those who don't know you, could you give a brief description of who you are and what you do for a living nowadays?

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Yes.

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I am just going to post this on X for my 100,000 followers there.

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So hopefully some people will come to Nostra because of us.

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So wait one second.

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I'm just putting this fancy tweet.

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All right.

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Because everyone needs to leave centralized platforms.

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One way or the other, right?

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Right.

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It's either going to hurt or you're going to start the process while it's still not painful or not as painful.

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Yeah.

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Hold on.

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No worries.

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I'm having trouble just sharing your live on Nostra.

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How can I do that?

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just joined us you guys know how to use that thought stream remind me how to share this

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i zapped you but i don't know how to share okay there we go found it finally oh here we go quote

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stream yeah quotes run then there's a share on x button oh i found it here i'm on primal that's

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why i'm okay so on primal join us live can you see the chat in uh on the zap.stream

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according to me

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this is a link

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you can use for X

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interesting, let me take that link

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okay

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we're just being

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tech nerds

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I think I've done

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it takes some getting used to

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I've done both X and Noster and I'm ready to go

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Okay, so quick intro. Yeah, I am a former chief marketing officer in the tech corporate industry for most part of my life for about 20 years. That's what I was doing. I graduated university with a computer science degree. I was a programmer for a few years.

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Then I switched on to the business side and I accumulated most of my experience in business and marketing from working, from just experiencing stuff.

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And I did not go back to university to study neither business nor marketing.

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I just did it out of my passion.

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I just wanted to learn and I had a small business.

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And yeah, I was an entrepreneur for a while.

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And then I was just in marketing, corporate marketing and B2B marketing for a long, long time.

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I loved it.

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The thing I loved the most was being with people and mentoring them and teaching them and also understanding like being on the intersection of the psychology, human action and commercialism.

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like turning brands and products into commercial real life successes.

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I really loved that.

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And I love building brands as well.

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The thing I loved the least out of that period was just being in the rat race.

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And I always felt like, especially as a single mom, for 14, 13 years, I was raising my son

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on my own.

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I was working really hard and my number one goal in life was just to provide for him and to make

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sure he's got like my son has you know his future taken taken care of and for that I needed to work

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hard I couldn't have a career and being a single mom without help so I had to move next to my

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parents and get their help in doing that so i saw my son less because of that and um and the money i

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was making i really tried hard to save it and i succeeded i saved because i really minimized on my

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um on my on my expenses you know the good old-fashioned way you you earn more than you

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spend but for some reason I always felt like you know it's it's a never-ending loop you just

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keep on serving a boss that is serving a board that is serving an investor that is serving

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some somewhere in the end of that chain you have a central bank that is just printing money and at

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one point I was like what in which game am I playing I'm playing in a game where

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where the money is just being created by someone and then I started questioning what is money

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it's a construct that we people have built it's a tool that we've put in place in order to help

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us collaborate and do things together but we made it up it's not like a an organic force of nature

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that God has given us.

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It's something we have created to work with.

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And it feels like,

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and this is before I knew about Bitcoin and money and all that.

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And it just feels like if people,

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if men has created this tool called money,

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then it's probably created in a manipulated or worked way.

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It's not honest.

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Like something there doesn't feel right for me.

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And then on top of that, in 2020,

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any COVID started waking me up to the corruptions of the world and the lies and the manipulations.

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And being a marketeer, I could see the marketing propaganda and the mind control and everything

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that was coming down. So I was waking up to that alongside a very nice spiritual awakening that

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started happening. And I was like, okay, this is my time. This is my opportunity to kind of snap out

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of this matrix I'm living in and start going down different rabbit holes to find out and

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understand the truth about all these things we've been told and I've never questioned.

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Now it's time to question everything. So it started with health, you know, because COVID was like

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allegedly related to health, although I claim it doesn't. Like it's not about health at all.

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It's all about politics and all about social structures and conditioning of the human psyche to accept a new reality that someone up there wants us to accept, a reality in which we have to be totally controlled and ask for permission for everything.

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And I started not just questioning that, but resisting that and not going along with the program.

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So I started slowly being outcasted from all those circles that I was part of for so many years, the professional circles, the social circles.

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Sometimes even my family, you know, couldn't handle my dissent or my criticism or, you know, the path I was taking.

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You know, luckily, I preserved my important relationships with important people in my life, including my family.

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but I did leave many of the circles I was part of.

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And I also, at one point, end of 2022, I left my corporate job

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and I decided to embark on a new journey that is completely independent.

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And it had me, I mean, I mentioned my spiritual awakening.

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So that process led me to discover what is my gift, what is my uniqueness, what is my true voice and purpose in life, what is my signature, what kind of mark am I going to leave here?

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And then, you know, it's kind of reverse engineering.

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If those are my gifts and my best skills that I have, I have them for a reason.

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Like, it's not like I'm good at verbalizing and using my voice just because I practiced for 20 years.

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No, it's because, you know, I need to use this.

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I need to somehow find a way to take my voice and use this for serving humanity.

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Like, I got there quite quickly.

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Like, you know, it took me like two or three years.

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the real end game is to serve humanity because life is very temporary in this physical body,

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in this physical realm, and the soul is eternal.

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And we will continue living always, but we have this very limited time, however much time it is.

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It can be up until tomorrow.

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It can be another 80 years for me, who knows, in which I can really take ownership of my

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my strengths my powers my um my purpose and then serve humanity as best as i can

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to help everyone you know move to the next level and understanding this uh what i call game of life

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so that's what i do today i decided to start a podcast uh called you're the voice um again you

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know you're the voice just because i was on that process to understanding how my voice can then

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serve and my passion to shed light on, you know, corruptions and scams and the truth,

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just to show people the truth and just find the bravery and the courage to speak out.

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And then I started writing as well. So I set up my own blog, which I have a problem with right now,

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but I'm also writing for international magazines. I've written for Bitcoin magazine, for

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for many others, internationally and also locally in Israel, in Hebrew.

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So I help a lot of people in Israel, you know,

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just snap out of that matrix that we're in

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and also have a very large follower around the world

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and my different channels.

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I'm being censored a lot, and I hope we can touch on that today.

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We will.

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we will yeah and i have i have a 16 year old son that i love and i'm a digital nomad full-time so

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i'm traveling around the world and that is so right now i'm speaking to you from bali indonesia

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that's where i'm at for the next month that was a great introduction and there's a lot of things

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i would like to ask you actually but let's see we only have like an hour time a bit less now so

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let's try to talk about the most important things uh well first of all i have four children now well

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one is on his way and i think having a child is definitely one of those important things to help

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you mature in life like that's the thing that made me grow and mature the fastest fastest ever so

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i was 21 when i became a dad and i'm kind of blessed like for a lot of people that's way too

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young for me i think it was what helps me help me grow up because we're in an age where at 21

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you're you're retarded like you're like deeply deeply retarded like i think we're still retarded

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We're just on different levels of this spectrum, right?

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No, exactly.

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So that is awesome.

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I think, yeah, it's a great deal of a child.

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I think that's one of those important things

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that help guide you in life

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and help you not lose yourself perhaps

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in all this noise because recently,

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well, always, right?

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But I would say, especially recently,

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I feel there's more chaos than there was two, three years.

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I mean, okay, COVID was also terrible.

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There's always a new crisis, right?

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It's nice to have good resolve.

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And I think the process of becoming a Bitcoiner

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involves killing involves dying like killing killing your previous self i mean you know like

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yeah absolutely you were built up as something and that's something you usually build on lies

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that person has to die to drink to become bitcoiner and from my perspective right so it's like a

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rebirth and it can be traumatic like you're explaining i'm guessing when you just explain

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your journey you having to cut ties with previous friendships change your way of thinking

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like when that happened to me and happens

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I think to many Bitcoiners

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you just don't know what to believe anymore

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it truly is like

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being a reborn but

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I want to know

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my favorite thing is to ask Bitcoiners and people

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who especially interview other people

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such as yourself

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what are your rabbit holes?

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the ones that you have gone through

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can you name perhaps also the top three

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the top three that have attracted your

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oh my god there's so many to choose from um well i guess top three is health money those are like

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the top two and what what would i who would i crown as the third uh because there are so many really

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well i mean health is large there's like nutrition there's vaccines there's like i mean all of them

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all of i mean all of the above i mean yeah i've had 130 episodes of my podcast if you go and

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listen to some of the episodes with doctors or scientists that i've had i'm going in all

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directions because it's all related um so i've had dr alexis cohen recently uh who is a prototype

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of yeah dr jack ruse uh which i've interviewed on stage in btc prague twice and uh i've had

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Kevin McKernan doing like the vials contamination of the COVID jabs to show people that it has

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SV40, which is a gene that causes cancer.

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You know, I've had Dr. Tina Pierce talking about the adverse reactions of the COVID jabs.

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I've had Doc Malik, so many.

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And I love them all.

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And I think they're all Sabine Hazen speaking about...

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Yeah, Maghra Wile.

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Yeah, the microbiome and so many because we need to educate ourselves.

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And the answers are in each and every one of these threads and these directions.

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So health is huge.

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And it's one of my favorite topics for my podcast.

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And money.

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So obviously, you know, Bitcoin is a solution.

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But I talk a lot about banking and debanking and, you know, the connection to human rights, the connection to sovereignty.

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What would be my third rabbit hole?

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I mean, maybe geoengineering and chemtrails and all that stuff that people don't talk about enough.

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I mean, for me, one of my favorite, I don't call it a rabbit hole.

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It's just an educational route is spirituality.

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but really everything is related to spirituality and, you know, our consciousness.

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So you can take health and you can take money and you can take geoengineering and chemtrails

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and it's all related to it.

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So I try to bring things together because they're not siloed.

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They're all related.

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But I think geoengineering chemtrails are very important because, you know,

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if we put a lot of the focus on the stuff that is being put into our body

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through vaccines or through food. But then we have very little control on the air we breathe

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and what we're being sprayed with. And that is a daily thing that is happening. So more awareness

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is needed on that front. We need to understand that those heavy metals are affecting our health.

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We need to understand that they're in our soil, in our water, in our food, you know, and there's not

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much we can do about it, but raise awareness and then maybe try to get involved on a local level

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with cities or states. They have very limited powers in what they can do, but they can

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also help raise awareness. So that topic is close to my heart. So it's something that we need to put

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more focus on, I think. That's actually one of the recent rabbit holes I've been seeing,

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like the chemtrail thing. That's just something you don't think about. You're like, oh, it's a

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clouds playing living like some it's uh yeah but they're not clouds at all but it's not yeah it's

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it's really and i've also been going down the rabbit hole like deeper into the rabbit hole of

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viruses for example you know terrain theory versus germ theory um obviously vaccines it's it's

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fascinating and terrifying at the same time and it seems like we've been attacked on multiple fronts

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for decades and it really makes you wonder like what what can we do but and well here's what we're

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doing we're podcasting and we're talking about it so that's uh that's a good starting point and

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there's another one that i think is related to that and people need to be aware of and they're

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not it's the the whole um body area network rabbit hole so um you know people like um

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sabrina wallace you know just saying her name uh triggers many people because she's

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She's like controversial, but she does amazing work in showing all documented receipts for how we have wide body area network around us that some people call the aura.

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I mean, when you take it to the spiritual side, it's like the aura.

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We have a field that we're meeting.

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Everyone knows that.

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We're electromagnetic beings.

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And that electromagnetic field is being hijacked and hacked into through different powers and different technologies.

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There is a whole world out there that I suggest you just peek into.

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It may be a bit scary at the beginning but it super important to know because we need to also protect ourselves from electromagnetic frequency wireless radiation as much as we can It very hard to do because it everywhere and it all around us all the time

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But at least we need to be aware.

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And there is a lot of mind control and manipulation that is being done through those channels.

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So just be aware of that.

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Search up Sabrina Wallace.

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She's on Rumble.

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Sabrina Wallace.

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Yeah, I haven't heard about it, but I'll definitely look into it.

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Oh, yeah.

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I've been the spiritual rabbit hole. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. That's something else to look into.

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Cause the spiritual thing is something that I've been postponing for some time. Like,

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I think like I was raised Catholic, Roman Catholic, you know, I went to church school

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and everything. And then around high school, I became an atheist. And then around my end of my

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career, I became a, um, I forgot that I even forgot the term for it. Uh, or you, there could

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be a god there might not be a god but i'm open to possibility that there is one deist i believe

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anyways but i've started to go back into becoming a believer i believe that there is

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a greater being and uh uh it's interesting this the the process right um but i do believe i think

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i went through a similar process to you yeah i don't believe there's a true atheist like if you

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don't believe in god you end up believing in something else right it can be the state

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It can be the science, right?

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Something else becomes your God.

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Something else becomes your God, right?

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And I'd rather fill it up with something that's been time-tested for thousands of years and, you know, contributes to having a low time preference.

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So, yeah, I plan on teaching my children about religion, but I admit I have not yet gone down deep that rabbit hole.

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And you have, I'm guessing you interviewed Sabrina Wallace, right?

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I'll check that podcast.

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Oh, no, I did not interview her.

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I'm following her.

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no but she's not in the spirituality rabbit hole I think she's Christian

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I've interviewed many people who are speaking about spirituality

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but I also I am a humble student you know I do a lot of reading

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hermetic teachings is like a very basis

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You can then follow great people like Dolores Cannon speaking about the life after death and reincarnation.

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There are my favorite spiritual teacher is Lori Ladd, which I always recommend people to follow.

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She's incredible.

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And a book that has changed my life, if I can just drop that name, many people will, I think people would love it.

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It's called The Bringers of the Dawn by Barbara Mersiniak.

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And it's a book that is really, it's a pivot point in my life.

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And I think that after that book, things didn't look the same.

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It's a series of three books, but that's the first one.

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Go there and thank me later and let me know what you thought.

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It's a wonderful short book, Bringers of the Dawn.

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Yeah, it's really great.

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And it's for all you rebels that really want to see yourself or feel like you're a system buster, right?

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You're here to understand the system and then bust it from within, from the outside.

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Like we have different ways of going about it, but you kind of, you see, you can understand the system, the matrix or the different subsystems that you're in.

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and you have a calling or a purpose in life to be one of those souls that is here at this time

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to be part of the change of you know breaking the existing system and building a new one and i think

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that will speak to a lot of bitcoiners so that that book is highly recommended anyway um another

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thing i'm involved in which we didn't touch on is um women like i really want more women to

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kind of regain their sovereignty everything i do is to give people more power and sovereignty

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self-sovereignty i mean i think that's the key for everything so i think women really need a

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nudge and a push for men it comes more naturally because you guys have the you know the the

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genetic reconditioning for yeah for hunting and for going out there for taking risks for being

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more out there and women are you know we we naturally have a more um a tendency to be more

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reserved and accommodating you know yeah exactly so i think women need a little bit more of a push

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to reclaim back their powers and their sovereignty and there's a different way for the feminine to

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learn about her powers and how she can reclaim them. And so me and many other great women are

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really focused on talking more to the female audience so that we can bring them in

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to a sovereign life. One of the things we're doing soon, next month actually, is the Women

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of Bitcoin Summit. It's a free event that we've put together. It's three of us, Natalie Brunette,

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myself and um christine marie turner and we we want to bring 1 500 women to this free event but

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right now we have 600 so we're we're on the right track we have another month to where is it to share

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this it's online it's virtual so anyone can oh it's online i'll sign my wife right well i'll tell

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her about it first and then but she's i'm sure she'll be she's a hardcore bitcoiner she's a

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hardcore bitcoiner right and then she can invite her friends that always wanted to learn about

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Bitcoin, but I didn't know where to start. And it's going to be 28 female speakers where we've

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put together an incredible lineup. You know, we have the most amazing speakers from Caitlin Long

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and obviously Natalie, Susie Violet Ward, just to name a few, Lynn Alden. We have even Cynthia

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Lama is joining us, but not only from

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America, we have

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from Africa,

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Marcel Lorraine, we have from

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Brazil, Carol,

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a lot of circular economies.

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Isabela Santos, we

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forgetting. It's all on the website. You have

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28 women.

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Just an incredible lineup.

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A lot of, seven panel

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sessions, and we have also

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some free giveaways for the ladies.

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And it's all about like just start in a way that will not intimidate you, that will help you answer your questions and be exposed to what this thing is, what this Bitcoin thing is and how this can be a first step into sovereignty.

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So, yeah, that's something I'm working on heavily this month.

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Definitely.

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And it's a nonprofit event, so it's free and we just have sponsors.

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And we want more sponsors.

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If you want to sponsor us, please reach out.

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Sure.

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No, definitely.

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I'll reach out to you after the podcast to get more details because it sounds interesting.

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And, you know, just how the powers that be are attacking on all fronts.

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I think Bitcoiners need to attack on all fronts as well.

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And that's where I think there is no right answer on what's the right thing to do in different regards.

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For example, there's people who say, I will stand and fight where I am.

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Like typically Americans, right?

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This is my country.

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I'm not moving anywhere.

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And the other people who are like, go where you're treated best, like Andrew Henderson type of style.

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You know, like, oh, we can't get multiple residency, become nomadic.

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I think all those type of ways of thinking are correct.

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We need people attacking on all fronts, fighting for freedom on all fronts.

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And in this case, focusing on women.

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I think that's very important because like we're seeing in the Bitcoin or space,

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like what I'm seeing, is that we're turning back to a more traditional way.

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For example, my wife is also an MD.

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She decided not to pursue her career.

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she decided to become a homeschooling mom yeah she's very smart beautiful and people are going

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back to that uh families are going back to that and women are the ones who are educating the

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children because i'm the one yeah i'm the one has to work now and if the mom the women know about

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bitcoin they they're teaching the future generation while they're small so i think women empowering

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women to learn about bitcoin is very a powerful tool for the future obviously right now but that's

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Future thinking.

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And that's amazing.

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And that's why, you know, I look at what we're doing.

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And we already have 600 women signing up.

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We're going to have more than 1,000.

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I know it.

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From all around the world, just think of the amazing power this is going to bring into the sovereignty and the freedom and the Bitcoin community.

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The power, the energy that's going to come into this space with so many women that are mothers of children or future mothers of children that are going to teach.

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those kids those things that makes me so bullish and so happy to just think about that and that's

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where i go how come all those companies in this space are not jumping on the opportunity to sponsor

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this thing or to just even donate where are the ogs what's going on i know we do have some good

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sponsors like rhino like abundant minds but come on people yes where are you like wake up

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Nostriches

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what's going on?

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Nostriches

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you know

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you heard it

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you guys got to

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check it out

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I'll add links

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in the description

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once I bring out

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the video

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editing everything

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we got to start

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if anyone's

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listening to us

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on Nostra right now

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any one of those women

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please put a link

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to this event

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in the chat

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so people can see

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what we're building

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and approach us

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for sponsorship

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we want to get

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those women in there

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great

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that is a great message and uh well moving on a bit uh i do want to get into the censorship

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uh because you've been suffering a lot about uh with that recently since when has that happened

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and what started like what what commenting about what started getting you censored and were you

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or censored right away i think the very first um encounter i had with that was during covid where

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you know videos on youtube and things like that were taken down so i had to start using rumble it

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was very early on 2020 2021 i studied that that thing exists and then a lot of doctors and

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researchers around me were shut down as well so in 20 i think end of 21 we did a massive

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twitter space with all those doctors after elon musk took over so it was 22 i think

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And all those doctors came back in and we did a massive Twitter space with all those censored voices.

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And we said that people died because of this censorship, because those voices were not allowed to speak out.

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People couldn't be warned and many people died.

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That was like the message of this Twitter space.

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And so that was the first encounter.

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And then later on, on October 7th in Israel, I don't know if you know, the massacre that happened, I was there.

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on the day and um yeah i was looking at yeah i was living in israel at the time and um and i i

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served in the idf when i was younger and i actually served in the place where where these

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things happen right on the gaza border and so i knew that what was happening on the day was not

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typical was not supposed to happen something was like allowed or enabled because Israel has all the

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means to stop something like that or at least to come come and help when something like that starts

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to happen and it did not there was a stand-down order and there were many horrible things

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happening on that day so I decided to speak out out of my experience and I made a video that went

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completely viral that was my viral moment millions of people around the world saw it and shared it

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and then I kept on speaking for about a month and I was heavily heavily attacked and censored

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on that month where I was speaking out it was a very terrible experience it was good on the one

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hand because the truth I was speaking was getting out there and that was I was one of the only people

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from Israel that were actually saying the stuff I was saying.

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But at the same time, there was an orchestrated attack against me.

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And many big accounts out there were defaming me and ridiculing me

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and bad-mouthing me.

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Some of them were actually even my friends,

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but they were Israelis or Jewish that were not thinking the same way I do.

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And I don't know if they were sent,

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but there was definitely an orchestrated attack on me.

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and my voice was trying to be silenced.

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So that was really a terrible experience.

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I continued to speak out.

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It was tough, but I made it through.

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And then with my podcast,

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every time I spoke about COVID and the jabs,

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or my guests spoke about it,

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I was shadow banned.

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Not every time, but many times.

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um youtube is horrible for me and then last year with no previous explanation or reason

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given i was banned off of telegram and on telegram i had yeah i my principle when it comes to since i

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know marketing and i know content and i know what i'm doing i built my my online presence in a very

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decentralized way so i have channels on all platforms more or less and so on telegram i had

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two groups of 6 000 and 2 000 people in each so 8 000 8 000 followers on telegram and my account

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closed down in one day that was about six months ago and i made videos about this yeah closed down

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just like no explanations just like you violated the terms and conditions they don't tell you what

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it is why what you did you are trying to talk to them and you're looped in this ai bot chat that

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there's no no person you can talk to i tried emailing i tagged them i'm trolling pavel durov

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on x like i tried everything every time they keep putting posts out there saying that their

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platform for free speech i'm like you know fuck you you're not you're you're you're lying you're

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You're closing people down when you don't like it.

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I don't know if it's the governments that are telling them to do that or it's their own.

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I'm sure it's governments, right?

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I don't know if it's the Israeli government or a different one, but they closed my account.

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So now I'm banned on Telegram.

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Then I started having some issues because I'm nomading.

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But this is not just targeted specifically to me.

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This is in general.

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I'm just talking about credit cards in general or banking when you're nomading.

451
00:33:59,963 --> 00:34:07,043
this is one of the hardest things because you have to keep coming back to the credit card company

452
00:34:07,043 --> 00:34:13,203
or the bank to ask for permission to use your credit card or your money when you're overseas.

453
00:34:13,703 --> 00:34:17,723
And that is ridiculous. And I'm talking about Visa and MasterCard and Amex. They're all the same.

454
00:34:18,203 --> 00:34:22,883
And of course, the bank as well. They're seeing that you're overseas doing stuff with your money.

455
00:34:22,883 --> 00:34:28,483
like first we block you and then you have to come back to us and ask for permission to

456
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:34,383
to use what's yours so i call that censorship as well right this is part of them controlling our

457
00:34:34,383 --> 00:34:39,503
money and then just recently and i'm giving you different examples but they're all related to

458
00:34:39,503 --> 00:34:48,183
censorship and just recently and this was three weeks ago four weeks ago three weeks ago i arrived

459
00:34:48,183 --> 00:34:55,483
to australia because um my son lives there and so i went to visit him and when i got to australia

460
00:34:55,483 --> 00:35:02,703
australia has a new legislation around they call it the child safety act which is bullshit it's

461
00:35:02,703 --> 00:35:09,523
it's basically they're asking you to verify your age when you go when you surf to various websites

462
00:35:09,523 --> 00:35:17,043
so the big platforms like facebook twitter instagram so all of meta all of google all of

463
00:35:17,043 --> 00:35:20,903
Substack even joined the crowd.

464
00:35:21,383 --> 00:35:22,483
But here's the thing.

465
00:35:22,703 --> 00:35:26,623
There are currently only nine big tech platforms

466
00:35:26,623 --> 00:35:29,923
on the list that have to ask for age verification.

467
00:35:29,923 --> 00:35:32,783
So you have to be like 16 years old or older

468
00:35:32,783 --> 00:35:35,123
in order to surf on those websites.

469
00:35:35,383 --> 00:35:38,543
And mind you, just to give you a sense of what it did,

470
00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:41,483
four and a half million accounts were closed down

471
00:35:41,483 --> 00:35:45,443
on Instagram alone in Australia because of that act

472
00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:50,363
of like people who would not participate in this experiment

473
00:35:50,363 --> 00:35:52,903
and show their papers just in order to surf,

474
00:35:53,223 --> 00:35:54,723
including children as well, right?

475
00:35:54,783 --> 00:35:56,163
But the children don't give a fuck.

476
00:35:56,263 --> 00:35:59,763
The children go and find, you know, another Snapchat or whatever.

477
00:35:59,903 --> 00:36:03,423
They go to other platforms that don't give them the same shit

478
00:36:03,423 --> 00:36:04,463
and they find a way.

479
00:36:04,563 --> 00:36:05,723
The children are like water.

480
00:36:05,863 --> 00:36:06,903
They teach us everything.

481
00:36:07,503 --> 00:36:08,843
Anyway, back to the story.

482
00:36:09,763 --> 00:36:13,783
Now you have this child safety act.

483
00:36:13,783 --> 00:36:19,603
so you need to verify your age so you need to either show a digital id or you need to take that

484
00:36:19,603 --> 00:36:23,983
selfie and you need to do this digital authentication you're basically showing your

485
00:36:23,983 --> 00:36:34,083
your papers just in order to to browse the web to like sounds like right sounds exactly like

486
00:36:34,083 --> 00:36:41,223
covid and so i got to australia and i'm using i have a blog on sub stack i have five thousand

487
00:36:41,223 --> 00:36:50,043
5,000 subscribers and 10,000 followers on that platform. Again, I'm decentralized. I have like

488
00:36:50,043 --> 00:36:55,983
people following me on all platforms. And so, you know, I do stuff with my blog as I always do.

489
00:36:55,983 --> 00:37:01,443
My podcast is there, the articles I wrote, everything is in there. And then one day I'm

490
00:37:01,443 --> 00:37:06,943
going into my dashboard and all of a sudden I get this pop-up saying, you need to verify your age.

491
00:37:06,943 --> 00:37:12,943
show us that you're over 16 show us your papers show us your digital id put a put your passport

492
00:37:12,943 --> 00:37:19,043
up or take a selfie and only then we will give you access to your blog and i'm like fuck you

493
00:37:19,043 --> 00:37:23,823
first of all i'm over 16 and you know it because i'm already identified with i'm registered with

494
00:37:23,823 --> 00:37:30,523
substack secondly i'm not an australian i mean i am an australian citizen but to put that aside i am

495
00:37:30,523 --> 00:37:34,983
because i have dual citizenship i have a passport but i don't live in australia i don't have an

496
00:37:34,983 --> 00:37:48,686
address I don have anything in Australia and I not participating in your game I not showing my papers to go into my blog to just like surf the internet So I like okay I knew I going to leave Australia within two

497
00:37:48,686 --> 00:37:53,966
weeks. So I said, I'll wait. You know, I tried using a VPN. I use Tor. I use everything,

498
00:37:54,526 --> 00:38:00,865
nothing. It pops up anyway. And I think then they flagged my account because I said, I'll wait

499
00:38:00,865 --> 00:38:02,385
till I leave Australia

500
00:38:02,385 --> 00:38:04,446
and I'll come here to Bali.

501
00:38:04,486 --> 00:38:05,405
I'm in Indonesia

502
00:38:05,405 --> 00:38:07,425
and I'll do it from here.

503
00:38:07,766 --> 00:38:09,006
I'll access my blog from here.

504
00:38:09,066 --> 00:38:10,186
So I waited for two weeks.

505
00:38:10,666 --> 00:38:11,666
Now I'm in Bali.

506
00:38:12,466 --> 00:38:13,026
Guess what?

507
00:38:13,385 --> 00:38:14,286
I'm still flagged.

508
00:38:14,385 --> 00:38:15,766
They still give me that pop-up

509
00:38:15,766 --> 00:38:17,385
that I need to put my digital ID

510
00:38:17,385 --> 00:38:19,066
in order to access my blog.

511
00:38:19,726 --> 00:38:23,326
And here's my tweet from yesterday

512
00:38:23,326 --> 00:38:24,925
that went viral.

513
00:38:25,706 --> 00:38:26,766
And I am so happy.

514
00:38:26,766 --> 00:38:29,466
Oh yeah, I'm going to do that.

515
00:38:29,646 --> 00:38:30,466
Let me find it.

516
00:38:30,865 --> 00:38:33,306
There you go. Share screen.

517
00:38:36,006 --> 00:38:37,365
I'm so happy it's going viral.

518
00:38:37,365 --> 00:38:41,506
If you guys want to ask any questions, feel free to write them down.

519
00:38:41,506 --> 00:38:43,206
And I'm going to take this to the next level.

520
00:38:43,405 --> 00:38:47,646
I'm going to email Substack. I'm not going to leave this.

521
00:38:48,286 --> 00:38:50,346
They don't really want to verify my age.

522
00:38:50,566 --> 00:38:54,526
They want to normalize me showing my papers to access the Internet.

523
00:38:54,726 --> 00:38:55,786
This is what it's all about.

524
00:38:55,786 --> 00:39:15,766
All these hate speech laws, all these online safety, child safety bullshit, all this crap is happening in lockstep all around the world right now because all they want is to normalize for us to show, to identify, to do a KYC on the internet.

525
00:39:16,126 --> 00:39:17,006
Fuck you.

526
00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:17,986
That's what I'm saying.

527
00:39:18,186 --> 00:39:19,106
Fuck you, you know.

528
00:39:19,306 --> 00:39:23,066
And this is going viral because it needs to go viral right now.

529
00:39:23,066 --> 00:39:29,986
there's 3.1 likes to this post please keep posting it please keep sharing it it's on x i'm going to

530
00:39:29,986 --> 00:39:36,405
put it everywhere and i have you know tagged sub stack here and i'm showing them that this is

531
00:39:36,405 --> 00:39:41,746
unacceptable this is what it looks like you need to verify your age because of the online safety act

532
00:39:41,746 --> 00:39:49,726
right and i'm outside of australia right now get get that i'm not there anymore even though they

533
00:39:49,726 --> 00:39:56,405
have a local law this thing is now following me wherever i go and i have 15 000 people subscribe

534
00:39:56,405 --> 00:40:03,146
to my work on this platform on substack that would now lock me out of my account this is censorship

535
00:40:03,146 --> 00:40:10,346
yeah to the max your income too right and it's also yeah and i'm not gonna give up i'm going to

536
00:40:10,346 --> 00:40:14,766
take this further i'm going to make some noise i'm going to make videos about this substack are

537
00:40:14,766 --> 00:40:20,646
going to hear from me. And again, I'm reminding you, Substack is not even on the list of platforms

538
00:40:20,646 --> 00:40:27,405
that is obliged by law to do this. And they're doing this just because they want to be more

539
00:40:27,405 --> 00:40:33,566
saint than the Pope, right? They want to be the best. Just like in COVID, we're going to take

540
00:40:33,566 --> 00:40:42,026
extra measures and going to verify age. Show me the under 16-year-old kid that goes to Substack

541
00:40:42,026 --> 00:40:48,586
to read a blog these days no one does that children are on tiktok children are on snapchat

542
00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:53,666
children are on instagram you're fucking lying this is not why you do this you do this because

543
00:40:53,666 --> 00:41:00,046
you want to normalize us showing our papers online and i've had enough with that bullshit

544
00:41:00,046 --> 00:41:06,046
i couldn't agree with you more but the funny thing is i'm sorry no i i can see it and it's good i

545
00:41:06,046 --> 00:41:11,486
want it's good to express it so people can sense the urgency of this you know yeah and it's funny

546
00:41:11,486 --> 00:41:17,146
to me that the argument is always but it's for the children it's for the children's safety

547
00:41:17,146 --> 00:41:22,346
but we're ruled by pedophiles for safety and here's the thing and fernando it goes back to

548
00:41:22,346 --> 00:41:26,046
what you said before about the mothers and the children's and parenting and all that stuff

549
00:41:26,046 --> 00:41:34,986
we do not need the state to interfere with our parental authority it's our responsibility

550
00:41:34,986 --> 00:41:41,346
to educate our children it's our responsibility to make sure they are safe from harm and that

551
00:41:41,486 --> 00:41:45,606
We educate them on which websites to go to and which websites not to go to.

552
00:41:45,786 --> 00:41:48,366
And it is, let me tell you, I've got a 16 year old.

553
00:41:48,546 --> 00:41:50,266
It's a tough journey.

554
00:41:50,626 --> 00:41:55,526
You have to really work hard and be vigilant with the work you do with them these days,

555
00:41:55,526 --> 00:41:57,026
because everything is out there.

556
00:41:57,486 --> 00:41:59,146
They're exposed to everything.

557
00:41:59,466 --> 00:42:00,026
There is porn.

558
00:42:00,246 --> 00:42:02,766
There is horrible stuff out there on the internet.

559
00:42:03,026 --> 00:42:04,026
Yes, it's a jungle.

560
00:42:04,746 --> 00:42:06,306
And it's our responsibility.

561
00:42:06,306 --> 00:42:22,006
And the moment we give the state that power to tell us, to decide for us which websites and which websites are going to be monitored and where we need to identify, and they include us in this as well, it's the end of our freedom and our liberty.

562
00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:22,666
That's it.

563
00:42:22,986 --> 00:42:27,346
And they've taken away, they've chipped away in our parental authority once again.

564
00:42:27,346 --> 00:42:30,106
It started with our bodily autonomy in COVID.

565
00:42:30,566 --> 00:42:32,326
Now it's our parental authority.

566
00:42:32,326 --> 00:42:35,966
Next thing, it's our bodily autonomy again

567
00:42:35,966 --> 00:42:37,686
with something else that they're gonna make up.

568
00:42:37,686 --> 00:42:40,026
And then it's gonna be our private property and our money.

569
00:42:40,026 --> 00:42:42,366
And it's already happening in so many places around the world.

570
00:42:42,366 --> 00:42:44,566
We as Bitcoiners, we know that.

571
00:42:44,566 --> 00:42:45,686
And they're gonna debank us.

572
00:42:45,686 --> 00:42:47,026
They're gonna touch our private property

573
00:42:47,026 --> 00:42:48,106
again and again and again.

574
00:42:48,106 --> 00:42:51,446
We have to say no when we have to show them

575
00:42:51,446 --> 00:42:52,286
that this is bullshit.

576
00:42:52,286 --> 00:42:55,826
We have to keep working on platforms like Noster

577
00:42:55,826 --> 00:42:59,385
that allow us to take hold of our digital identity

578
00:42:59,385 --> 00:43:01,566
and decide what we do online.

579
00:43:02,326 --> 00:43:06,905
And this is a war for the digital space, I would say.

580
00:43:06,905 --> 00:43:09,086
Because people don't think of it.

581
00:43:11,286 --> 00:43:14,626
I would say it's one of the last places of freedom on Earth.

582
00:43:14,826 --> 00:43:17,226
Like a lot of the physical spaces have been taken by governments.

583
00:43:17,425 --> 00:43:21,006
But the digital space is still, I guess you could say Wild West.

584
00:43:21,066 --> 00:43:23,246
It's been centralized, yes, in all of these big platforms.

585
00:43:24,086 --> 00:43:25,266
But Nostra, I think, is one of those.

586
00:43:26,466 --> 00:43:28,266
Still, the internet, what is it?

587
00:43:28,266 --> 00:43:36,086
The TCPIP protocol is still a protocol that we can work on decentralizing again.

588
00:43:36,266 --> 00:43:36,646
Agreed.

589
00:43:37,006 --> 00:43:38,666
So they try to centralize it.

590
00:43:38,905 --> 00:43:40,846
We need to be, it's the yin and yang.

591
00:43:40,986 --> 00:43:45,746
We need to be the opposite force that decentralizes it as much as possible.

592
00:43:45,946 --> 00:43:49,466
This is our role as freedom lovers and Bitcoiners.

593
00:43:49,466 --> 00:43:53,846
We need to decentralize the hell out of this centralized internet.

594
00:43:54,905 --> 00:43:55,846
I totally agree.

595
00:43:55,846 --> 00:44:01,646
And actually, I think it'd be really cool here, especially since you've been talking to a lot of people and you've interviewed Jeff Booth.

596
00:44:01,726 --> 00:44:02,526
That was a really good interview.

597
00:44:02,646 --> 00:44:03,326
I like it a lot.

598
00:44:03,446 --> 00:44:03,806
Thank you.

599
00:44:04,566 --> 00:44:09,306
What are some actionable steps for those listening that can do right now?

600
00:44:09,606 --> 00:44:12,286
From everything you've learned, what has been like your thesis?

601
00:44:13,366 --> 00:44:15,686
Or let's say, I guess let's divide it to two tiers.

602
00:44:16,026 --> 00:44:19,126
Like the person who, yeah, I'm interested in Bitcoin, but I'm new to it.

603
00:44:19,146 --> 00:44:19,766
I'm new to Nostra.

604
00:44:19,826 --> 00:44:20,726
I'm new to a lot of these things.

605
00:44:20,806 --> 00:44:21,526
What can I do?

606
00:44:21,526 --> 00:44:27,786
And then perhaps for the more veteran Bitcoiners, what could perhaps they do?

607
00:44:27,885 --> 00:44:31,306
Like, for example, you mentioned supporting the women's conference.

608
00:44:31,486 --> 00:44:33,986
I think that's something OGs could support, for example.

609
00:44:34,246 --> 00:44:34,446
Oh, yeah.

610
00:44:34,646 --> 00:44:35,405
A hundred percent.

611
00:44:35,966 --> 00:44:36,405
A hundred percent.

612
00:44:36,506 --> 00:44:37,686
And by the way, some of them do.

613
00:44:37,905 --> 00:44:40,586
There are some OGs that have reached out and donated money.

614
00:44:40,686 --> 00:44:41,706
They don't want to be sponsored.

615
00:44:41,826 --> 00:44:42,846
They just want to support.

616
00:44:43,306 --> 00:44:44,326
So that's also an option.

617
00:44:44,486 --> 00:44:45,586
This is a nonprofit event.

618
00:44:45,586 --> 00:44:51,385
And we have a collaboration with the Bitcoin Bay Foundation.

619
00:44:51,586 --> 00:44:55,425
So it's a nonprofit entity in the United States.

620
00:44:55,425 --> 00:44:57,526
So you can just donate there.

621
00:44:57,726 --> 00:45:00,925
And it's good in terms of taxes and everything because it's a nonprofit.

622
00:45:01,126 --> 00:45:02,726
So you can reach out to us.

623
00:45:03,006 --> 00:45:09,966
Anyway, for beginners, I would say take my Bitcoin starter kit.

624
00:45:09,966 --> 00:45:16,686
I have a kit that is movies, podcasts, books, and it's really well organized.

625
00:45:17,146 --> 00:45:21,425
It also went viral when I put it out there because people liked having like one place

626
00:45:21,425 --> 00:45:24,646
that gives you a good starting point for Bitcoin.

627
00:45:24,826 --> 00:45:30,946
It speaks about fiat first, and there's some really cool movies there on fiat and to understand

628
00:45:30,946 --> 00:45:31,786
how it works.

629
00:45:32,385 --> 00:45:35,526
And you need to understand fiat in order to get to Bitcoin.

630
00:45:35,526 --> 00:45:43,166
So I take people through a really fun way of getting into what is Bitcoin and how they can learn about it.

631
00:45:43,446 --> 00:45:44,666
Obviously, the women event.

632
00:45:44,925 --> 00:45:47,086
And if men want to join, you can join.

633
00:45:48,026 --> 00:45:51,986
So it's open for everyone, but we do want more women there.

634
00:45:52,086 --> 00:45:53,306
That's the purpose of this event.

635
00:45:53,786 --> 00:45:58,246
Anyway, so the Bitcoin Starter Kit, I will give you a link to it.

636
00:45:59,506 --> 00:46:03,405
It's on my blog, the same one that Substack is giving me a hard time with.

637
00:46:03,405 --> 00:46:19,226
I would say another good first step is just buy a hardware wallet, any type of hardware wallet, and then ask someone around you that has Bitcoin to sell you a little bit.

638
00:46:19,886 --> 00:46:22,646
So start your journey with a peer-to-peer transaction.

639
00:46:23,405 --> 00:46:31,806
Just find a friend or someone you know to do a peer-to-peer transaction with you and send you some Bitcoin to your hardware wallet.

640
00:46:31,806 --> 00:46:33,226
I think that's a good first step.

641
00:46:33,226 --> 00:46:39,266
Second step would be to learn what a lightning wallet is and do some immediate transfers with the same person.

642
00:46:39,425 --> 00:46:41,326
So just practice like that with someone.

643
00:46:41,726 --> 00:46:44,106
I think those are good first steps for beginners.

644
00:46:44,446 --> 00:46:47,686
I would also encourage you to open a Nostar account.

645
00:46:48,566 --> 00:46:50,925
So just have a Nostar account.

646
00:46:51,085 --> 00:46:59,246
You need to start learning about how you're going to have true free speech online without being censored.

647
00:46:59,246 --> 00:47:02,186
and the ability to take your social graph with you

648
00:47:02,186 --> 00:47:03,986
as you move from one platform to another

649
00:47:03,986 --> 00:47:06,166
and use Nostar for various things.

650
00:47:06,766 --> 00:47:08,166
So learn about Nostar.

651
00:47:08,306 --> 00:47:10,905
So these are the two things for beginners.

652
00:47:11,266 --> 00:47:15,106
For advanced, for Bitcoiners that are already in there,

653
00:47:15,666 --> 00:47:20,326
what I would recommend is, you know, Dr. Jack Cruz always says it,

654
00:47:21,746 --> 00:47:25,226
it's about giving you more time to be here.

655
00:47:25,226 --> 00:47:45,085
So if you're a Bitcoiner and you haven't gone down the health rabbit hole, which is huge, again, we talked about vaccines, geoengineering, the air you're breathing, the food you're eating, all that stuff is there to give you more time in your time chain and not just more money.

656
00:47:45,085 --> 00:47:57,346
So if you don't have good health, and it starts with physical health, but it goes on to mental health and then spiritual health, then your time in this game is going to be shorter and shorter.

657
00:47:58,566 --> 00:48:04,486
We had recently a really sad death in the community of Haidia.

658
00:48:04,786 --> 00:48:10,846
I don't know if you know her, but she died suddenly, probably an aneurysm.

659
00:48:10,846 --> 00:48:13,506
And she was in her 40s.

660
00:48:13,506 --> 00:48:19,686
she was an amazing bitcorner i met her in riga she was a beautiful beautiful soul and she just

661
00:48:19,686 --> 00:48:26,466
died just like that just two weeks ago i think it was and it's super sad but it's just a really

662
00:48:26,466 --> 00:48:35,186
good reminder for us that our time here is limited and what we can do is educate ourselves on our

663
00:48:35,186 --> 00:48:42,425
physical mental and spiritual health so that we can elongate that time here um so we can be

664
00:48:42,425 --> 00:48:48,606
more time for our families, communities, and friends around us and help them go through some

665
00:48:48,606 --> 00:48:55,306
of the most turbulent time in the recent century that we're going through right now. It's the end

666
00:48:55,306 --> 00:49:00,085
of the fourth turning. We're going through all this shit and people are going to experience a

667
00:49:00,085 --> 00:49:03,786
lot of hardship. So if you're listening to this and you're an advanced Bitcoiners,

668
00:49:04,186 --> 00:49:11,446
Bitcoiner, you already have an advantage on everyone else probably, but you want to look

669
00:49:11,446 --> 00:49:18,886
back from time to time and reach out to those who do want to be helped and are asking questions

670
00:49:18,886 --> 00:49:28,966
and need, you know, that holding hand to go into the ark, go into the raft, like they need someone

671
00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:35,606
to help them and you're there. So, you know, what is our life about if not to be of service for

672
00:49:35,606 --> 00:49:43,826
humanity so i think you know we need to um we need to live up to that um to that purpose um so

673
00:49:43,826 --> 00:49:48,106
yeah if you're a bitcorner you should start thinking about your community your family your

674
00:49:48,106 --> 00:49:56,686
friends uh helping them out and finding out how you can harness your best skills and gifts in life

675
00:49:56,686 --> 00:50:04,925
in order to use them to help humanity amen to that don't just stop at what is money right uh

676
00:50:04,925 --> 00:50:10,686
continue asking questions. No, this is just, that was just the door in, that was just the white

677
00:50:10,686 --> 00:50:20,585
rabbit. That's it. Exactly. So, um, it's the curious, it's the, just once you realize you've

678
00:50:20,585 --> 00:50:25,106
been lied to in one big thing, I think it's only natural to ask yourself, yourself, what else?

679
00:50:26,226 --> 00:50:30,606
Don't stop. Don't stop. You'll be surprised. Uh, there's a question from the audience, uh,

680
00:50:30,606 --> 00:50:35,266
cryptex uh you mind taking the question i know you have to go soon yeah what's the question

681
00:50:35,266 --> 00:50:40,706
can you read it to me because i'm not looking of course cryptex is asking do you think them asking

682
00:50:40,706 --> 00:50:47,346
and substack them asking for kyc kyc to use substack et al reflects their fear perhaps

683
00:50:47,346 --> 00:50:53,746
realization control is slipping from them a projection of their fear does it signify their

684
00:50:53,746 --> 00:51:03,446
fear like um and when he says their fear i'm assuming he means substack as a microcosm for

685
00:51:03,446 --> 00:51:12,446
all the big tech platforms um i believe that the control that is slipping away is definitely

686
00:51:12,446 --> 00:51:18,766
at play this is what we're seeing but the the fear of that control slipping away

687
00:51:18,766 --> 00:51:23,686
is not really by the big tech platforms like Substack and others.

688
00:51:23,686 --> 00:51:28,186
It's the control of the powers that shouldn't be.

689
00:51:28,806 --> 00:51:32,585
Those powers that are controlling us plebs, us humans,

690
00:51:32,925 --> 00:51:39,405
us, you know, souls that are, they need us.

691
00:51:39,486 --> 00:51:40,746
They need us for their GDP.

692
00:51:40,925 --> 00:51:42,166
They need us for our productivity.

693
00:51:42,446 --> 00:51:45,925
They need us for our energy, our life energy, our vitality.

694
00:51:46,046 --> 00:51:47,126
They need us.

695
00:51:47,126 --> 00:51:56,166
if we start understanding the amount of power we have and how much they live off of our power

696
00:51:56,166 --> 00:52:01,866
our energy you already know that as bitcoiners because of the money but it's also spiritual it's

697
00:52:01,866 --> 00:52:08,466
also the energy you give them with your life force with your fear with your emotions they

698
00:52:08,466 --> 00:52:17,726
feed off of all of that so the moment you start stepping out of giving your powers away whether

699
00:52:17,726 --> 00:52:24,966
they're physical powers energetical powers and all the powers you don't give that to them they

700
00:52:24,966 --> 00:52:31,566
start freaking out and that's why they're clamping down more that's why they are asking the kyc that's

701
00:52:31,566 --> 00:52:37,346
why they're like no we need to keep you in our control no we need to keep you in that box no we

702
00:52:37,346 --> 00:52:43,126
need to see what you do we need to control you with cbdc's we need to ask for a digital id we

703
00:52:43,126 --> 00:52:48,085
need to connect all those systems together so we can centralize the power more and control you more

704
00:52:48,085 --> 00:52:53,446
yes the power is slipping away this is the yin and yang that we've been talking about so they're

705
00:52:53,446 --> 00:52:59,146
doing that for sure because their control and power are slipping away because they are because

706
00:52:59,146 --> 00:53:06,786
there is a spiritual awakening on a massive scale in the world, on earth, everywhere.

707
00:53:07,226 --> 00:53:09,366
Like people are starting to wake up.

708
00:53:09,506 --> 00:53:12,026
It started in COVID and it's accelerating all the time.

709
00:53:12,466 --> 00:53:17,106
The more the darkness is accelerating, so the light is accelerating.

710
00:53:17,466 --> 00:53:24,425
It goes together and they see it and they're afraid of it and they need to control us more

711
00:53:24,425 --> 00:53:27,506
in order to regain their powers back.

712
00:53:27,506 --> 00:53:33,746
I mean, for thousands of years, humanity have been enslaved and controlled.

713
00:53:33,905 --> 00:53:35,866
This is not just a thing of fiat.

714
00:53:36,246 --> 00:53:39,066
You know, it's not just the 100 years or the 500 years.

715
00:53:39,266 --> 00:53:39,726
No, no, no.

716
00:53:39,946 --> 00:53:47,726
This goes back to centuries ago, eons that we've been captured and controlled by other entities.

717
00:53:47,826 --> 00:53:50,646
And we're not going to go down that rabbit hole, but people can go back.

718
00:53:50,646 --> 00:53:57,146
Yeah, I mean, you can go back and start learning about ancient civilizations.

719
00:53:57,506 --> 00:54:00,266
and Anunnaki and Nephilim and everything.

720
00:54:00,466 --> 00:54:01,986
There's so much to learn about.

721
00:54:02,306 --> 00:54:05,106
But humanity has been controlled for eons.

722
00:54:05,386 --> 00:54:08,106
And now is a very...

723
00:54:09,566 --> 00:54:12,425
It's a singular point in time

724
00:54:12,425 --> 00:54:16,686
where something's shifting in the power dynamics.

725
00:54:17,026 --> 00:54:21,386
And we have an opportunity to reclaim our powers

726
00:54:21,386 --> 00:54:23,466
and start building something new.

727
00:54:23,686 --> 00:54:27,106
Not necessarily we are going to be here

728
00:54:27,106 --> 00:54:33,506
in our lifetime to see the change that we are leading right now. But if we're building that

729
00:54:33,506 --> 00:54:38,826
for our children and our children's children, and if we actually want humanity to survive this,

730
00:54:39,166 --> 00:54:45,166
because the technocratic transhumanistic agenda is horrible. And I don't, I mean,

731
00:54:45,186 --> 00:54:50,806
I want to be here to see how everything unravels, but I'm not sure I want to see how life looks when

732
00:54:50,806 --> 00:54:55,925
People are being raised inside pods and being cloned, right?

733
00:54:56,266 --> 00:54:59,246
And cyborgs are just like a normal thing.

734
00:54:59,746 --> 00:55:01,606
And, you know, brain chips are normalized.

735
00:55:01,886 --> 00:55:06,026
I don't want to be part of that, but it will happen.

736
00:55:06,425 --> 00:55:07,686
And this is a conspiracy.

737
00:55:08,606 --> 00:55:10,206
Well, it's not a conspiracy.

738
00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:11,966
No, I think the Epstein-

739
00:55:11,966 --> 00:55:17,106
I mean, look at your hero, Elon Musk, having a company that does brain chips.

740
00:55:17,506 --> 00:55:19,226
And, you know, you don't have to go far.

741
00:55:19,226 --> 00:55:20,085
Look at Tether.

742
00:55:20,085 --> 00:55:23,986
Tether is now invested in a brain chip company.

743
00:55:24,366 --> 00:55:27,186
Oh, yeah, it's decentralized, but it's a brain chip company.

744
00:55:27,386 --> 00:55:29,065
And guess what the name of that company is?

745
00:55:29,085 --> 00:55:29,806
It's BlackRock.

746
00:55:29,906 --> 00:55:32,906
It's not the same BlackRock as the financial one, but it's called BlackRock.

747
00:55:33,126 --> 00:55:33,866
Go check me.

748
00:55:34,286 --> 00:55:34,446
Go.

749
00:55:34,986 --> 00:55:39,106
Yeah, they announced it last year in El Salvador, in Plan B Forum in El Salvador.

750
00:55:39,726 --> 00:55:41,346
And, you know, you don't have to look far.

751
00:55:41,486 --> 00:55:47,666
You just have to stop calling people names like conspiracy theorists and just go and check things yourself.

752
00:55:47,766 --> 00:55:48,266
Don't trust.

753
00:55:48,406 --> 00:55:49,085
Verify, right?

754
00:55:49,085 --> 00:56:06,466
Do it everywhere. So the transhumanism is the agenda that they want to take us into. Go search what transhumanism is. We don't have time to go through this now. But that reality requires control.

755
00:56:06,466 --> 00:56:14,306
and when the mind control is being loosened and when the digital control is is being um

756
00:56:14,306 --> 00:56:20,126
compromised yeah no and when it's being compromised when we are starting to like

757
00:56:20,126 --> 00:56:40,428
break through the cracks and find all those freedom and sovereignty technologies and protocols and algorithms and like you know we there their control is slipping away so we are we are the ones i going back to the book i recommended earlier the bringers of the dawn we

758
00:56:40,428 --> 00:56:46,408
are the system busters we are the ones that can really bust some of those systems and they know

759
00:56:46,408 --> 00:56:52,329
it and they're fucking terrified by it so they're clamping down on us even more so my little

760
00:56:52,329 --> 00:56:56,669
censorship thing is just an opportunity to wake people up to what's coming.

761
00:56:56,988 --> 00:56:58,829
You know, it's like this sub stack thing.

762
00:56:58,928 --> 00:56:59,689
Yeah, it's annoying.

763
00:56:59,769 --> 00:57:03,148
And I don't want to lose my blog, but I'll find a way.

764
00:57:03,809 --> 00:57:05,729
You know, I'll open another one.

765
00:57:05,928 --> 00:57:08,648
I think there's Noster sub stack alternatives.

766
00:57:09,029 --> 00:57:09,809
I'm pretty sure there is.

767
00:57:10,089 --> 00:57:11,549
Yeah, it's not as good yet.

768
00:57:11,849 --> 00:57:12,849
And I want a good one.

769
00:57:13,069 --> 00:57:19,408
So I will have a, yeah, Ghost is an open source platform where I can import my sub stack

770
00:57:19,408 --> 00:57:20,608
and use that.

771
00:57:20,608 --> 00:57:21,809
I will do that.

772
00:57:22,329 --> 00:57:25,269
Yeah, but, you know, we have to find solutions.

773
00:57:25,749 --> 00:57:26,988
We have to show agency.

774
00:57:27,189 --> 00:57:30,789
We have to be smart about how we operate.

775
00:57:30,829 --> 00:57:40,589
And we cannot be disheartened and devastated and broken down every time a crisis happens.

776
00:57:40,589 --> 00:57:46,948
Because we're going to bump into tens, dozens, hundreds of crises in the next few years.

777
00:57:46,948 --> 00:57:52,709
We have to be more like stronger and adapt ourselves to this crazy period.

778
00:57:53,169 --> 00:57:55,029
So, you know, this is our time to shine.

779
00:57:55,689 --> 00:57:57,508
And I think the struggle is necessary.

780
00:57:57,968 --> 00:58:00,428
I think Bitcoin, it's good for Bitcoin in a way.

781
00:58:00,908 --> 00:58:05,209
If we were to be having a moment for a long piece, it would make us complacent, in my opinion.

782
00:58:05,709 --> 00:58:08,769
And I've been hearing a lot of Simon Dixon recently.

783
00:58:08,888 --> 00:58:10,868
I didn't know who the guy was a few months ago.

784
00:58:10,868 --> 00:58:20,049
and i i i'm starting i i feel his explanation is thesis makes more sense in my mind that's not

785
00:58:20,049 --> 00:58:25,388
exactly the zionists controlling the world it's more of the proof net and proof of uh weapons

786
00:58:25,388 --> 00:58:31,229
network to me that that that clicks a bit more but another thing that's perhaps perhaps pessimist

787
00:58:31,229 --> 00:58:35,468
for like i know bitcoiners are like you know orange for the world bitcoin solves everything

788
00:58:35,468 --> 00:58:40,988
But I do tend to agree it's the bad guys, you know, call them that already have Bitcoin.

789
00:58:41,249 --> 00:58:45,669
They're going to be there when Bitcoiners rise and we will get a seat at the table.

790
00:58:45,888 --> 00:58:46,169
Yes.

791
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:49,569
But these bad people, I think, are still going to be there.

792
00:58:49,988 --> 00:58:53,089
And that's perhaps not the best news for a lot of Bitcoiners.

793
00:58:53,549 --> 00:58:55,189
But I do think it's the reality, perhaps.

794
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:58,809
I don't know how to I don't imagine that that moment yet.

795
00:58:58,849 --> 00:59:01,388
Like, I don't know how exactly I would feel about that.

796
00:59:02,209 --> 00:59:04,908
But I think we still need to fight.

797
00:59:04,908 --> 00:59:06,608
We can't just give up.

798
00:59:06,729 --> 00:59:08,349
Okay, they're also going to win.

799
00:59:08,508 --> 00:59:10,349
If they're going to win, then what's the point of even trying?

800
00:59:10,428 --> 00:59:11,529
No, I mean, like we have to fight.

801
00:59:12,209 --> 00:59:12,729
You know what I mean?

802
00:59:13,809 --> 00:59:19,968
Yeah, Bitcoiners sometimes enjoy just saying the trope, you know, Bitcoin is for your enemies.

803
00:59:20,428 --> 00:59:21,908
It's not just a trope.

804
00:59:21,988 --> 00:59:22,789
It's a real thing.

805
00:59:23,608 --> 00:59:26,289
Everyone's going to hold Bitcoin at some point, right?

806
00:59:26,289 --> 00:59:34,729
So you're going to have to live in a world in which your enemies are in the same network as you are.

807
00:59:34,908 --> 00:59:44,349
And you may have similar interests in terms of the underlying system you're using to advance life.

808
00:59:44,849 --> 00:59:48,408
So start thinking about how you can live in that kind of reality.

809
00:59:48,669 --> 00:59:51,049
I agree with you about Simon and I love his thesis.

810
00:59:51,209 --> 00:59:55,169
It's going to be on my podcast in, I think, next week where I'm interviewing him.

811
00:59:55,189 --> 00:59:56,008
Awesome. I can't wait.

812
00:59:56,029 --> 00:59:58,589
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have a wonderful discussion.

813
00:59:59,988 --> 01:00:02,428
Yeah, I can't wait to do this.

814
01:00:02,428 --> 01:00:04,448
So we've been wanting to do this for a long time.

815
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:08,529
But with Simon, I agree with his thesis on the most part.

816
01:00:08,529 --> 01:00:15,008
I also think that this is a very complex web of power facets.

817
01:00:15,569 --> 01:00:17,128
This is not just like one cabal.

818
01:00:17,868 --> 01:00:24,488
There are cabals in various groups, but those cabals are interconnected.

819
01:00:24,988 --> 01:00:26,968
They're loosely connected between them.

820
01:00:27,689 --> 01:00:31,829
And they have a lot of power, each one in their own domain.

821
01:00:32,428 --> 01:00:35,888
And they cross interface from time to time.

822
01:00:35,988 --> 01:00:39,608
I do think that the Zionist cabal has a lot of power.

823
01:00:39,928 --> 01:00:44,069
And I know that cabal quite well since I'm Israeli and Jewish.

824
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:49,229
And this is one nuance I'm going to say.

825
01:00:49,448 --> 01:00:55,289
You have to have compassion for Jewish or Israeli people that you like that are around you.

826
01:00:55,608 --> 01:01:01,388
Because for them, when you say the word Zionist, it just means patriot.

827
01:01:01,388 --> 01:01:08,189
they just think that Zionist is a you know you you love your country and oh really so just have

828
01:01:08,189 --> 01:01:14,289
compassion yes because Israelis and Jews they they normally when they say I'm a Zionist they don't

829
01:01:14,289 --> 01:01:21,229
think about that big plan to conquer the Middle East right to have the greater Israel or something

830
01:01:21,229 --> 01:01:27,648
like that they most of them will not even be aware of those plans and of that history so just have

831
01:01:27,648 --> 01:01:33,008
compassion and know that depending on who you're speaking to and their level of understanding

832
01:01:33,008 --> 01:01:38,329
um they for them they just want to be good people they they just love their country it's just like

833
01:01:38,329 --> 01:01:43,329
you saying i'm america first right they they will go i'm israeli first that's for them that's the

834
01:01:43,329 --> 01:01:50,408
meaning of i'm a zionist but really zionism yes it has a very dark uh history and and a different

835
01:01:50,408 --> 01:01:55,008
a different connotation for those who really go and search what that really means deeper into it

836
01:01:55,008 --> 01:02:15,349
Yeah, I am not a Zionist. I do love Israel. It's my home and I have my family and friends there, but it's a very complicated place to come from and to be living in. It's really hard to do this, but you're right. I don't think Zionism is controlling the world.

837
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:18,689
I think we have different facets of power running here.

838
01:02:18,689 --> 01:02:25,349
And just looking back to what we said before, try to learn what those facets of powers are.

839
01:02:26,088 --> 01:02:34,789
And remember in the end of the day that if it consumes too much of your time and energy and productivity from your life,

840
01:02:34,849 --> 01:02:42,148
then you want to stop and just focus on what's important, which is building your community and your family and taking care of your loved ones and yourself,

841
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:45,088
your physical, mental and spiritual health.

842
01:02:45,088 --> 01:02:48,289
and your self-sovereignty, having Bitcoin,

843
01:02:48,508 --> 01:02:52,329
having freedom as much as you can in all areas of our life.

844
01:02:52,488 --> 01:02:57,928
And I always say, just minimize your interfaces

845
01:02:57,928 --> 01:03:01,169
with the state and the institutions as much as you can.

846
01:03:01,608 --> 01:03:05,269
That's how you regain and reclaim your sovereignty and your power.

847
01:03:05,408 --> 01:03:10,189
Just work on bit by bit how I can minimize my interfaces

848
01:03:10,189 --> 01:03:13,488
with any institution and with the state.

849
01:03:13,488 --> 01:03:17,988
And that's how you reclaim back your power and decentralize as much as you can.

850
01:03:18,529 --> 01:03:19,789
I think that's the message.

851
01:03:20,049 --> 01:03:27,908
And I think some people get disappointed because they expect great change and just organizing a bunch of Bitcoiners.

852
01:03:28,428 --> 01:03:30,529
I think it's a slower process.

853
01:03:30,709 --> 01:03:31,569
It's going local.

854
01:03:31,948 --> 01:03:33,569
It's buying things with Bitcoin.

855
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:39,849
If a rancher or someone accepts Bitcoin, pay in Bitcoin, get the circular economy going, make that parallel economy.

856
01:03:40,349 --> 01:03:41,749
It's a slow fight, yes.

857
01:03:41,749 --> 01:03:47,428
but i think that you need to have these grassroots movements to for what's to come for like the moment

858
01:03:47,428 --> 01:03:53,749
the big moment i think will eventually come and we need to be ready uh what are you talking about

859
01:03:53,749 --> 01:03:59,948
big moment as in the price who gives a fuck what are you talking about fernando like this whole

860
01:03:59,948 --> 01:04:04,928
one hour was about freedom and sovereignty and now you tell me the big moment this is the big moment

861
01:04:04,928 --> 01:04:11,189
every moment is the big moment just make it make it i can't argue against that it's true the big

862
01:04:11,189 --> 01:04:22,729
What I try to say with big moment, it's like the moment when we get the seat at the table of power, I would say, you know, when there's enough influence and we already have it.

863
01:04:22,948 --> 01:04:24,329
We already have it.

864
01:04:24,468 --> 01:04:26,849
Live your life like you already have it.

865
01:04:27,049 --> 01:04:31,309
Build your little community like it's the most important thing in the world.

866
01:04:31,309 --> 01:04:33,408
the guys in Costa Rica

867
01:04:33,408 --> 01:04:35,628
the communities in El Salvador

868
01:04:35,628 --> 01:04:37,789
the community in Madera

869
01:04:37,789 --> 01:04:39,249
the community in Lugano

870
01:04:39,249 --> 01:04:40,869
the community in South Africa

871
01:04:40,869 --> 01:04:43,789
the little meetup in Melbourne

872
01:04:43,789 --> 01:04:45,408
Australia, the most suppressed

873
01:04:45,408 --> 01:04:46,729
place in the world

874
01:04:46,729 --> 01:04:49,169
this is it, this is the power

875
01:04:49,169 --> 01:04:51,428
that's what you need, you just shine your light

876
01:04:51,428 --> 01:04:53,908
as strong as you can in those places

877
01:04:53,908 --> 01:04:55,908
and you know, let God

878
01:04:55,908 --> 01:04:57,968
be with you because that's the power

879
01:04:57,968 --> 01:04:59,628
we need, that's it, amen

880
01:04:59,628 --> 01:05:07,289
we don't need to wait for any politician any government any state anyone to join us we are

881
01:05:07,289 --> 01:05:13,849
the ones we are the ones we've been waiting for that's it do something about nope i agree i totally

882
01:05:13,849 --> 01:05:18,648
agree uh do you have uh i guess you have to go right now because there's a lot of things i wish

883
01:05:18,648 --> 01:05:24,269
i could i could talk about with you let's take one let's take one more question one more question

884
01:05:24,269 --> 01:05:28,549
okay i got i got one for my for myself though uh i don't and i don't know if you want to talk about

885
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:30,448
but let me know if you don't.

886
01:05:30,968 --> 01:05:33,948
Like this Knotts versus Korthe,

887
01:05:33,948 --> 01:05:35,608
I know people have been talking about it like crazy.

888
01:05:35,689 --> 01:05:37,148
A lot of people are tired about it.

889
01:05:37,549 --> 01:05:39,388
And the God and Kawhi,

890
01:05:39,648 --> 01:05:42,069
there's a lot of ideologically aligned people.

891
01:05:43,468 --> 01:05:44,428
But, well, first of all,

892
01:05:44,428 --> 01:05:45,269
do you want to talk about that

893
01:05:45,269 --> 01:05:46,569
or you don't think it's an interesting topic?

894
01:05:46,569 --> 01:05:48,849
I don't think I'm well-educated.

895
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:51,289
I mean, I am educated because I'm following it,

896
01:05:51,408 --> 01:05:52,809
but I don't think I'm the right person

897
01:05:52,809 --> 01:05:53,729
to give my opinion.

898
01:05:53,729 --> 01:05:54,309
To talk about that deeply.

899
01:05:54,869 --> 01:05:55,108
Okay.

900
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:58,189
I mean, I'm happy to just share what I'm...

901
01:05:58,189 --> 01:06:04,428
doing i don't think anyone should do what i'm doing but i i'm i'm installing knots on my on my

902
01:06:04,428 --> 01:06:10,789
node but i i don't think uh i'm not the best person to give an educated opinion about that

903
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:15,729
the or the thing i do think though i do think though that there are two insights about it

904
01:06:15,729 --> 01:06:21,329
that i do want to say one is that it's good that there is a healthy debate in the community that

905
01:06:21,329 --> 01:06:35,269
It shows that Bitcoin industry, community, whatever you want to call it, is behaving in a way that the world is not behaving these days.

906
01:06:35,269 --> 01:06:39,229
It's actually talking about problems and surfacing a lot of the shit.

907
01:06:39,229 --> 01:06:45,369
right so and that is something that is not happening these days because we are being

908
01:06:45,369 --> 01:06:50,709
hijacked to just talk about certain things and look at certain things and not talk about others

909
01:06:50,709 --> 01:06:58,269
and not voice our opinions and be afraid to bring out criticism or or free speech so i think that's

910
01:06:58,269 --> 01:07:06,588
healthy on the one hand on the other hand i think bitcoiners have a tendency to go too far with uh

911
01:07:06,588 --> 01:07:08,809
you know, things that may not be detrimental.

912
01:07:09,128 --> 01:07:10,769
Yes, it's a warning sign

913
01:07:10,769 --> 01:07:14,948
and it's something that is good to surface right now

914
01:07:14,948 --> 01:07:15,628
and handle,

915
01:07:16,008 --> 01:07:19,329
but I think we don't need to be obsessed with it.

916
01:07:20,108 --> 01:07:23,008
We can, you know, look at things,

917
01:07:23,249 --> 01:07:24,388
read, educate ourselves,

918
01:07:24,488 --> 01:07:26,608
and then make up our own mind and move on.

919
01:07:26,689 --> 01:07:29,448
Don't get stuck because there is so much to do.

920
01:07:30,408 --> 01:07:31,809
So it's a healthy debate

921
01:07:31,809 --> 01:07:33,648
and it's a good thing that it's happening,

922
01:07:33,648 --> 01:07:36,569
but yeah, don't get too obsessed.

923
01:07:36,588 --> 01:07:37,569
or fixated.

924
01:07:38,249 --> 01:07:39,529
I agree that it's good for Bitcoin.

925
01:07:40,088 --> 01:07:42,888
I do think the best case scenario

926
01:07:42,888 --> 01:07:46,329
would be to have multiple client implementations.

927
01:07:47,169 --> 01:07:48,289
Not just, well, there's a few,

928
01:07:48,388 --> 01:07:49,588
there are a few, there's like at least,

929
01:07:49,669 --> 01:07:51,488
I think seven or nine I saw the other day.

930
01:07:51,789 --> 01:07:52,729
But honestly, right now,

931
01:07:52,769 --> 01:07:54,508
people just know mainly about NOTS and core.

932
01:07:55,169 --> 01:07:56,869
But the main thing I wanted to focus there

933
01:07:56,869 --> 01:07:59,749
is like, I'm class of 22.

934
01:08:00,289 --> 01:08:02,488
So I'm relatively new to Bitcoin.

935
01:08:03,229 --> 01:08:05,329
And a very human thing

936
01:08:05,329 --> 01:08:07,869
is to look for leaders within,

937
01:08:08,008 --> 01:08:09,008
especially when you're new to something.

938
01:08:09,189 --> 01:08:10,549
Like who's the guy who can guide me

939
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:12,508
through this dark, like what is Bitcoin?

940
01:08:12,648 --> 01:08:13,189
What is health?

941
01:08:13,289 --> 01:08:14,269
What is all these things?

942
01:08:15,088 --> 01:08:17,488
And then you see their history.

943
01:08:17,568 --> 01:08:18,588
Sometimes they have a track record

944
01:08:18,588 --> 01:08:19,988
of being right and doing these things,

945
01:08:19,988 --> 01:08:21,648
but sometimes we're all humans

946
01:08:21,648 --> 01:08:22,668
and we make mistakes.

947
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:24,208
And something I've been seeing a lot

948
01:08:24,208 --> 01:08:26,168
in this NOS versus core,

949
01:08:26,289 --> 01:08:27,729
but also with the Epstein file things,

950
01:08:27,849 --> 01:08:28,648
which could be false.

951
01:08:28,809 --> 01:08:29,889
You know, there could be a lot

952
01:08:29,889 --> 01:08:31,389
of false documents out there.

953
01:08:31,849 --> 01:08:35,208
A lot of OGs look like they've been compromised.

954
01:08:35,329 --> 01:08:40,389
or could be and there's a lot of things i've been people i would look up to and they say

955
01:08:40,389 --> 01:08:45,229
uh things that i perhaps don't don't align well with me but what i'm trying to get

956
01:08:45,229 --> 01:08:52,349
get to with this is for perhaps and the advice for beginners is just be ready to slay your heroes

957
01:08:52,349 --> 01:08:57,988
like don't it's one of those things you have to kill inside you you know that that primal urge to

958
01:08:57,988 --> 01:09:03,849
just follow you know you have to learn to be a critical thinker i too run knots you know and i'm

959
01:09:03,849 --> 01:09:09,588
not technical and uh i maybe i'm more of a i go on the economics of it you know the austrian

960
01:09:09,588 --> 01:09:15,349
economics point of with you and blah blah blah but i i like to feel that i arrived to that

961
01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:20,068
conclusion myself not because luke or bitcoin mechanics said this is the right thing to do

962
01:09:20,068 --> 01:09:27,028
blah blah yeah i mean it sounds like it's the right thing and i'm with you and i i like what

963
01:09:27,028 --> 01:09:38,588
you're saying because i think yeah we it's a human trait to look for um what's the word i'm looking

964
01:09:38,588 --> 01:09:48,329
for to look for um reassurance or a king yeah a figure of authority you want to get your

965
01:09:48,329 --> 01:09:53,988
reassurance that you are doing the right thing or behaving the right way from someone who knows

966
01:09:53,988 --> 01:10:00,088
better than you and who is smarter than you. That goes back to my point about sovereignty and power.

967
01:10:00,429 --> 01:10:07,488
We doubt ourselves too much and we always give our powers away. And it can start with things like

968
01:10:07,488 --> 01:10:11,668
that. Where is the figure of authority? And I'm not saying don't listen to people who are

969
01:10:11,668 --> 01:10:17,088
knowledgeable. No, on the contrary, go learn and educate yourselves, but then you make the decision.

970
01:10:17,088 --> 01:10:22,668
So I'm with you completely Slayer Heroes. I said that on my podcast with Natalie Brunel,

971
01:10:22,668 --> 01:10:27,528
and I think that it really resonated with a lot of people because they told me that

972
01:10:27,528 --> 01:10:34,309
but then I also want to give you one example of why you always need to stay critical and listen to

973
01:10:34,309 --> 01:10:42,329
to many opinions and many smart people so I've interviewed Kevin McKernan who is a scientist

974
01:10:42,329 --> 01:10:49,148
and is a world leader in genomics and he was one of the people working on the human genome project

975
01:10:49,148 --> 01:10:58,048
at the time today is mostly in the genetics of cannabis and human genetics as well when it comes

976
01:10:58,048 --> 01:11:05,068
to researching what happened after COVID. I did a two-hour episode with him on my podcast,

977
01:11:05,389 --> 01:11:11,668
which went completely viral. And one of the things we talk about, he's a Bitcoiner,

978
01:11:11,668 --> 01:11:21,488
is the censorship of medical journals and medical science.

979
01:11:21,809 --> 01:11:26,309
So a lot of scientific research that is being produced these days

980
01:11:26,309 --> 01:11:31,909
is being censored by the apparatus and the system of medical journals

981
01:11:31,909 --> 01:11:34,748
and peer-reviewed articles and all that stuff.

982
01:11:34,748 --> 01:11:38,509
So what Kevin is doing, and Kevin has been suffering,

983
01:11:38,509 --> 01:11:44,588
quote-unquote suffering from that censorship for more than 11 years because he was always

984
01:11:44,588 --> 01:11:52,309
researching things that the powers that be did not want him to you know put out there because

985
01:11:52,309 --> 01:11:56,648
it makes people learn and understand things that aren't counterproductive to what they're trying

986
01:11:56,648 --> 01:12:07,309
to achieve in life so already 11 years ago Kevin has found a way to put a trace for research

987
01:12:07,309 --> 01:12:11,009
papers, scientific research papers on the blockchain.

988
01:12:11,909 --> 01:12:13,748
It was before ordinals.

989
01:12:13,849 --> 01:12:15,628
It was before operator.

990
01:12:15,909 --> 01:12:17,429
It was before all that stuff.

991
01:12:17,429 --> 01:12:24,969
And he's been very vigilant in learning the blockchain architecture and the Bitcoin protocol

992
01:12:24,969 --> 01:12:31,088
and how he can use that to help himself with the censorship he's been experiencing and

993
01:12:31,088 --> 01:12:32,588
other people as well.

994
01:12:32,588 --> 01:12:52,009
And so now when the whole debate about OpReturn has started and Nots and everything, he has been, he started making use of, he found this way to make use of Noster plus OpReturn to put links to his scientific research and other people's scientific research on the blockchain.

995
01:12:52,009 --> 01:13:02,148
and it's immutable now and they have been using that kind of stuff for the past 10 or 11 years

996
01:13:02,148 --> 01:13:10,708
in legal cases in court to show that specific genetic samples or research is like there's a

997
01:13:10,708 --> 01:13:14,668
source of truth because it's been documented there on the blockchain for a period of time and they

998
01:13:14,668 --> 01:13:21,748
could prove by showing that that that was real truth over fabricated truth or things that were

999
01:13:21,748 --> 01:13:27,269
claim to be right. So they've been using that as a legal tool and as a censorship resistant tool

1000
01:13:27,269 --> 01:13:36,849
for the last 11 years, but also for specifically for the last one or two years on Noster and

1001
01:13:36,849 --> 01:13:44,829
Bitcoin. So find Kevin McKernan, he's on Noster, find his episode with me on my podcast and go

1002
01:13:44,829 --> 01:13:51,128
deeper into that rabbit hole so that you can see some really viable use cases for how you will

1003
01:13:51,128 --> 01:13:57,988
utilize up return for something very very good for a good use case now it's not stupid jpegs

1004
01:13:57,988 --> 01:14:02,509
it's not like it's things that are really changing people's lives and yes it's not

1005
01:14:02,509 --> 01:14:09,208
monetary so and i said at the beginning i i have not so my opinion is different but i cannot

1006
01:14:09,208 --> 01:14:17,429
i cannot sit here and say that what he's doing is not good or it's it's a an legitimate way of

1007
01:14:17,429 --> 01:14:18,708
using the blockchain.

1008
01:14:18,969 --> 01:14:23,189
So yeah, it's not black and white and be open to other things.

1009
01:14:23,448 --> 01:14:26,148
So yeah, I just want to add that on that note.

1010
01:14:26,148 --> 01:14:29,849
I think that was really good, really good and a good place to wrap it up.

1011
01:14:30,409 --> 01:14:32,229
Efrat, thank you so much for your time.

1012
01:14:32,289 --> 01:14:35,689
I don't know if you want to mention anything else you wanted to mention perhaps during

1013
01:14:35,689 --> 01:14:36,208
the podcast.

1014
01:14:36,748 --> 01:14:39,789
And if not, where can people find you, follow you?

1015
01:14:39,889 --> 01:14:43,168
People can find me on X on Noster, of course.

1016
01:14:43,168 --> 01:14:47,668
there is one link I will give you to put in the show notes

1017
01:14:47,668 --> 01:14:49,829
they can find all my different links there

1018
01:14:49,829 --> 01:14:53,748
please sign up to my sub stack

1019
01:14:53,748 --> 01:14:56,509
my blog even though it's suppressed right now

1020
01:14:56,509 --> 01:14:59,409
I'm going to make some noise and then I'm going to move all my subscribers

1021
01:14:59,409 --> 01:15:01,708
to a new platform that I would have

1022
01:15:01,708 --> 01:15:04,548
so please follow me on X and Oster

1023
01:15:04,548 --> 01:15:07,528
I'm doing Instagram clips, I'm everywhere

1024
01:15:07,528 --> 01:15:10,929
as I said, decentralized as possible, YouTube, Rumble

1025
01:15:10,929 --> 01:15:11,889
I'm everywhere

1026
01:15:12,568 --> 01:15:12,708
Yeah.

1027
01:15:12,929 --> 01:15:13,769
That is so cool.

1028
01:15:13,789 --> 01:15:13,909
Yeah.

1029
01:15:13,929 --> 01:15:16,608
I'll add all those links to the description once the video is out.

1030
01:15:17,088 --> 01:15:20,009
So yeah, once again, thank you very much and hope to see you around.

1031
01:15:20,988 --> 01:15:21,648
Thank you.

1032
01:15:21,748 --> 01:15:22,469
I'll see you soon.