This is wildlife unscreening with my mom.
And if there's anything you don't want to answer or I don't care, like anything, you just tell me because it's censorship free and also this is your, let's say, product.
So you have the same rights as me.
Perfecto.
Oh, we could use in Spanish one day.
Yes, no, I'm in. Yes, of course.
Because I've seen there are so many homeschoolers here and a lot of Mexican homeschoolers as well.
I would love to have a Spanish version of this podcast one day.
But anyway, it is what it is today in English.
Dr. Fernando Morales, I'm so, so happy that you're here with me because I'm a fan of what you're doing.
You're combining my favorite topics, homeschooling and Bitcoin.
And I think you are like, yeah, I don't know.
I stumbled across your profile at Noster and I was like, dude, I already love with this family.
Please adopt me. Really awesome. So happy that you're here with me. Thank you for making time
for this. Thank you for the invitation. Really nice. So tell me a little bit more about yourself.
How did you end up being what you are today? I mean, you have like at least 27 kids. No,
how many kids do you have your homeschooling and you're a bitcoiner and you do a great job as an
yeah no i'm gonna let you tell the people what you do of course so uh yeah it actually happened
really quick um i guess you could say up until the point where i graduated from from med school
i was your typical fiat drone you know just my my idea at that moment when i graduated was to do
do whatever a doctor does, does study for a speciality and whatnot.
The only difference I wanted to do here was do my speciality in Germany,
my medical speciality.
Because it's a more humane condition, they actually pay you more decent and whatnot.
So when I finished my med school in 2020, my wife is Lopkin,
forgot to mention that.
So we met during an exchange back in 2016.
We ended up getting together.
And when I finished med school, she was already living with me.
And we decided to go to Latvia.
That's when the pandemic started.
It's very important because my awakening was in part thanks to the pandemic.
I think the pandemic opened a lot of people's eyes.
But anyways, we went to Latvia.
I was taking care of the children while my wife was turbocharging, turbolearning German.
She's also a doctor, MD.
and she's part of the European Union,
it's much more easier for her to go to work in Germany
as a doctor than it was for me.
And we wanted to become independent financially.
So that was the idea.
So in that free time,
because taking care of two children at that time,
it's not that easy, small ones,
I started having a bit more time for myself.
I rekindled the passion for learning
because in med school, that died.
Like on their vacations,
the last thing i wanted to do was pick up a book but uh and then i started i started started being
curious again and um that's when i started first of all i read this economics book called it um
economics and one lesson by henry hazlitt so that started getting me down the path of uh
first of more free markets libertarianism but then i started going even further i can start
anarchism you know anarcho-capitalism and i started realizing oh my god the state is a huge problem
in the best case scenario right uh and that's what i started questioning everything and then
obviously the pandemic was happening the vaccines moderna and all these things
and i started questioning that because like the government was heavily the governments around the
world shut us all down and they're forcing vaccines on kids and then you know as we start
as a parent you start thinking like what's the right thing for my children right so combining
all of these these doubting yourself and seeing the garments not doesn't really have your best
interests at heart is when i realized okay what can i do to better my children's not just their
health but like uh development and obviously homeschooling came up so the idea for homeschooling
came up during the pandemic uh they weren't going to school they're too too young for that still
and I remember talking to my wife about it like maybe we should homeschool and obviously the
typical reaction oh what that's crazy you know and in Lavia you can kind of do that up until a
certain age I think only elementary school and yet we're reporting to the government but after
that it's mandatory for them to go to school uh so at that time we were still planning to go to
germany and in germany it's illegal to homeschool oh yes so that was like uh that's when the problem
started happening like should we even begin how should we do this we don't even know where we're
going to be uh in the next few months or a year so either way i started trying it out myself
in in lapia but then we discovered uh well first of all we saw germany wasn't perhaps the best
place to be long-term. I was a socialist in the way I would think without knowing it.
Yeah, tax the rich. Yes, of course, you should give welfare to everyone. Everyone says, and
you just assume that's the right thing to do. But then going down this rabbit hole, I realized,
nope, and Germany is a socialist, basically. Country, as hard as a socialist can be.
So long-term, no. Maybe doing this with Shalit and going back to Mexico. In Mexico, you can
actually earn pretty well as a doctor in the private sector.
And in Germany, your salary is capped.
You can go to a website and you can see how much you're going to earn year after year.
So it's kind of sad in a way if you want to do more.
But then the Russian-Ukrainian war broke out and Latvia is a border country with Belarusia
and Russia.
So in a moment of, I guess you could say panic and realizing there's nothing short term.
nor long term for us like let's go back to mexico so the war began in around the 24th of february
2022 by the 4th of march 2022 we were already in mexico and we start from zero from nothing like
again so then my wife's german that she had learned she reached c1 german and medical german
uh she was doing the exam she already had a hospital line so we abandoned all that
and uh yeah it was everyone thought we were crazy and we were also thinking the same thing what are
we doing but um anyways then i since i was the one who could work in mexico because you know the
bad thing about being a doctor is that you can't really change countries and work as a doctor
easily there's so much bureaucratic nightmares and revalidation you have to do so in mexico i began
working i was really going down the rabbit hole of homeschooling uh bitcoin all that stuff and
And then my wife just, she also had,
the pandemic had opened her eyes.
She saw how terrible garments were, you know,
and she realized she wants to homeschool.
Now, but she was nervous.
I think, well, you should know, right,
that when you first begin this,
you don't know if you're doing it right.
Like all your children turn out to be dumber
than all the other children.
So first we put them into a Montessori type school.
And I remember we had like those,
they invite you the parents over so you can see how the dynamics is you know and she would go there
and see and she's like i could do this myself so we started reading and seeing more or less what
the montessori programs are like she reading books from um maria montessori the one who initiated
the program so we gave it a go like after two years and being in montessori we took our children
out and she just she just did it so my wife has been homeschooling since 2020
was the reason ending it's 2023 or bringing 2024 so she's been doing fantastically she's happy with
it although she still doubts it from time to time that she doesn't know what's going on but then her
mom's a teacher actually in lafayette so then he talks to her and she says she complains about how
dumber how much more dumber children are getting in the you know public school system so that makes
her feel a lot better and i'm sorry i've been ranting a lot a lot but uh the summit all up
that's that's the the gist of it that's how i got into homeschooling i well my role right now is i'm
the provider of the family i'm not like directly engaged every single day and teaching our children
something but i do love to throw in some economics in there because i love reading about reading about
Austrian economics. I love talking about Bitcoin. They know about it. We watch the
Tuttle Twins. I don't know if you've heard about that cartoon. Yes, they love it. And I do my best
as a father. I try to put them into activities and things that can help develop their social
skills and whatnot. So basically, I don't know if you're a homeschooler or an unschooler. I know
there's some differences there. Oh, yes. At this point, I mean, I'm a radical unschooler. I do
nothing with my child in terms of trying to actively teach him something. We just live and
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The last couple of years, I was like, dude, how can anyone choose homeschooling?
That is so sick.
And now that I'm a little bit older and wiser, maybe I would say if I would have more kids, I would homeschool.
Definitely.
I just have one unschooling is the answer.
And he's not the type for homeschooling, to be honest.
So I never had that.
And I'm a teacher.
I'm German.
I have all the requirements to be perfect homeschooling mom.
But I just can't do it.
I hate teaching.
my son hates to be taught anything it's like to be taught anything it's like
he doesn't he doesn't want that so I gave up and when he was five or something like that in my
German head it was like okay he's five now he needs to learn how to read so I tried to teach
him the alphabet and it went south so quickly it almost ruined our relationship somehow so I was
like okay I have to step back I have to trust my gut and my gut told me like just let him free like
dude whatever he's five let him play and I didn't stop to be honest I let him play until today and
he's speaking Spanish English German he's super smart nobody ever told me like wow he comes across
quite stupid no it's always the opposite like wow he's so smart he's well educated and I'm like
unschooling works perfectly fine for us in this case
but I think I would pull it off a little bit different if I had more kids or if I would find
a partner now and had more kids I think I would organize it a little bit more because if you just
have one you can just do whatever the fuck you like all day long basically you know and my job
is so flexible that's easy but now imagine myself like not working raising kids and this is my only
job oh i would i would do it differently not because i regret it that's not the issue but i
think like if there are more people involved in the family like oh i like structure structuring
it a bit more so i see that the more kids you have the more it makes sense to bring a little
bit of structure in there so what are your like um you told me economics and these kind of things
Bitcoin is a topic in your household. So what do you think are the most important things you want
to teach your kids or your wife is teaching your kids when it comes to homeschooling? Because I
heard crazy stuff in my last conversation, we had like, what are your non-negotiables when it comes
to what are you teaching your kids? My kid is learning survival strategies, meditation, and how
to cope with dangerous animals. But that's it, basically. I have no other non-negotiables,
but this is what he needs to do.
Sorry, actually, survival stuff is something I've been wanting to implement myself,
but I haven't had the time to look into it.
But obviously, as a doctor, my main non-negotiable is health.
Like, I want them to be conscious of what it is to be a healthy human.
Now, since they're children, they kind of have to do what I say, right?
Or they have to eat what I buy. So they kind of have no choice there.
no choice there well i'm not also i'm not like a dictator in that regard if we go to a to a party
or it's halloween i let them eat their candies like uh but we try to teach them low time
preference for example my my eldest uh my my daughter she has a very low time preference like
she she can get candy she can get a gift and she can be willing to postpone immediate gratification
like she can put it away and eat it a few days later or save it for the movie uh my second child
uh he's a boy he's much more impulsive he's he's 60 barely six years old like you give him a candy
and he eats it like they said first of the semper we gave him this box of chocolates you know because
they have like one day he went chocolate by day five they were all gone yeah that's me yeah exactly
So I try to put, but I take advantage of those situations and I try to explain, you know, low time preference right there from the, you know, putting some economics in there and the importance of it.
But going back to health, I tell them about the importance of eating food, like good food in this case, carnivore, ketobore-ish type thing.
and since they've been doing karma for a good for some well keto keto more like keto uh for some
time they feel bad when they go too hard into the pasta or too bad part into like junk food they
they get nauseous they throw up so they can and i immediately tell them like this is this is why
you're feeling like this and i think that naturally helps them get the bigger idea like a picture like
okay this thing makes me feel bad maybe i should be more careful it doesn't stop them like they get
over after a few weeks like okay i'll just eat it more again but my long-term goal is for them to
just have the knowledge like to know if i'm starting to get sick to not feel good i have the tools to
get back on track uh i also i'm also getting into quantum biology so that's basically all this um
getting in the sun avoiding blue lights so like for example night time comes and uh papa pops up
his blue life walking glasses and they see all these things i think that's the most important
thing like they if i i want them to become a better person i think or a great human being in
society i think i have to put the example first right so i try to do all these things uh when
it's too dark i try i i try not to have any screens on but sometimes i have to because of work
um and uh sunbathing so like in the morning papa goes outside without a shirt and they like to come
out with me and relax you know so those are my non-negotiables it's health and learning about
basic economics in my opinion i think that's going to help them uh in the long term because
what's the point of wealth without health? And that's my motto, basically.
I love that. Let's talk about pasta. Because I learned recently, just a year ago, and I'm 35,
I thought I'm quite intelligent. And I put a lot of time into the thought of what am I eating? Am I
eating healthy? I've been a vegan for at least five to six years, but it's long gone. And it
it didn't help me at all. It made my conditions worse and worse and worse. And I was thinking
like, oh my God, I want to be like a friendly human being. I don't want to eat my friends
and oh, I love cows and these kinds of shitty thoughts. Then we moved to the Canary Islands
and being vegan on the Canary Islands is impossible. You have to eat meat because this is what
the people eat. It's the tiny island where we lived on and you just eat what the locals
eat so I was like eating meat it was like oh and then I got used to it and I was like dude how could
I ever stop eating meat I love it and the shitty part was I was still in love with pasta and bread
because I'm a German I love these kind of things but not so much because my health conditions they
stayed the same I felt I had more energy and these kind of things but I on the same time had the feeling
like wow nothing is really changing profoundly it is just the supervision that I'm touching
and a couple of months ago my my son told me like mama please don't buy pasta anymore it's
disgusting no bread no pasta and i was like dude what the fuck and yeah he was like no he he cannot
accept it anymore he is um i think he was 11 back then and he just decided that like this is not for
him and i should stop cooking this kind of shit and i was like dude i happy to do so because i I know keto is the way because my good friend she told me dude if you want to get rid of your skin issues you need to eat keto all the way
And I tried it.
And I'm not a person who's good in sticking to uncomfortable things for too long.
But I did it.
I was so proud.
My skin was perfect.
Now we moved again.
And now I'm like eating garbage tacos every day.
And that is what it is.
But I love tacos and I will eat as many as I need until I feel like I replenished my taco, I don't know, universe, you know, and then I will get back to keto.
But what the fuck? Why is it so? I mean, I do understand why everyone is eating garbage and why it's like advertised like that, what we should eat and not be eating.
But why is it so hard to switch to really good food? I mean, leaving out pasta was like punching in my face.
every damn time I saw a pasta I was like no let me eat this please but now it's gone the feeling
is gone I'm not like addicted anymore to bread or pasta or these kind of things it's just gone
I'm not addicted to sweets it's it's perfectly fine but this change it wasn't my brain really
I had the feeling it was a mental battle I was fighting and my son he just changed his attitude
and he went along until now perfectly fine, the carnivore perfect boy.
And for me, it was so hard.
Let's talk about pasta.
Why is it that so many people have such a hard time to just leave that crap out?
Because it's not that hard to just leave it out, is it?
But it is.
It's not easy if you've been accustomed to that your whole life.
And like you mentioned, it's a combination of multiple factors, biological, also psychological.
For example, like you said, it's part of your culture.
you know you're you're from germany of course you have that bread and pasta and all these things
so like that's the first hurdle the psychological aspect of things also the part of maybe you're a
very social person like how can you not eat these things when at the table there's all this bread
you look weird and awkward so that is one of the first barriers that the psychological aspect i'm
i'm gonna be the weirdo but you know as bitcoiners and homeschoolers we're kind of used to that type
of commentary regarding the oh first of all I think I was also addicted to bread like I I never
liked fruits I never liked vegetables yeah I was never into candy but I love bread I love sweet
bread bread I always have with a glass of milk in the morning at night so going carnivore and
eliminating that wasn't difficult difficult I don't know if you've seen any of my podcasts or
origin story in carnivore, but
the reason I got into carnivore
was because of my wife. So to make that
summarize that as much as possible, she had some big
health problems up until
one point where she just woke up one night
and said, for now let's do carnivore.
Slightly before that moment, I had already
been researching and learning about it, so
to me it wasn't like a weird thing. I was like, yeah,
sure, why not? I know a little bit about it. I know I want to
die. So I did it
for her, and
she, her migraines and conditions
has improved dramatically.
But I didn't have anything severe or anything.
I did suffer from irritable bowel syndrome since I was a child.
Bloated, pain, constipation, sometimes diarrhea.
You think it's normal.
But then with homework, it just disappeared.
Holy cow.
Even though I was studying medicine at the time and reading about this
and how I treat it, the treatment?
Pills.
You feel pain?
Take a pill.
You have diarrhea?
Take a pill.
so it wouldn't solve anything it's just you're just trying to minimize the the symptoms of
carver it went away we did car over carnival for three months and then we went on a trip
in november remember to merida yucatan actually and in a hotel there we didn't have our kitchen
so we broke the diet we were eating the local food and then december came so it's like you know
all the food, the tamales, the typical Mexican treats that you have during these Christmas
months, and then January as well.
So we broke the diet for another three months, and I felt like crap.
So it was the feeling like crap that I think helped me realize, oh my God, I just like,
I like feeling good.
I like being productive.
That helped me also go back to carnivore.
Because you can tell a person, you do carnivore, your diabetes will reverse.
It sounds good and all, right?
But to break, it's pleasant to eat bread because it elevates glucose.
And carbohydrates, at the end of the day, are all glucose.
Your body breaks it down to glucose.
And sugar affects the same areas of your brain as methamphetamines or cocaine.
It's an addictive substance.
so when you're cutting off pastas and bread and you've been doing that your whole life
for most people it's like fighting an addiction you know it's hard it's hard it's not easy
but i think what helps a lot is also you start to feel physically better and i see
in my patients those people who have pre-existing conditions are the ones who usually tend to follow
carnivore the longest or stay low carb you don't have to stay carnivore your whole life
but they keep on doing low carb because they know how it was back then and now it just feels so much
better so now you gain the knowledge to choose okay i know this will fuck me up if i eat it
but now i can choose whether it's worth it or not like at a reunion or a party and i think that's
powerful in itself you knowing that you have the tools to be a healthy person so i hope i answered
the question of why it's hard to leave it. It's psychological, it's biological, you know, sugar
and the cravings. That stuff really does screw up with your biochemistry.
It does. And I think it makes you stupid because I felt the weeks and months, and the change was
when I started eating keto only, the change was like from now to tomorrow. It was overnight change.
My skin was clear and I had energy way more than ever before in my life.
And I always thought I'm like a low energy person.
No, it was the food.
Holy shit.
It was only the food.
Now I'm looking forward to, we will move again soon to another place where we will stay five to six months.
And I'm already looking forward to freezing all the meat because I found a local farmer.
He is sending out like raw milk, raw butter, all these raw things.
And I'm like, oh, my God, that is just this is what I've been dreaming of.
Because on the Canary Islands, you can get a lot of chicken everywhere.
You can get chicken.
But red meat is like nobody wants to sell you red meat.
So here we found this farmer and he actually has red meat.
I was like, this is and it's all ecological.
Like it just tastes so different.
And opening this bag when he's delivering the food and opening this bag with this raw things, it's like, wow, this is how it's supposed to be.
I wish I could produce it myself.
I can't.
So he's delivering it for me.
It's awesome.
And this takes me into the direction of someone, a friend of mine.
She was like, yeah, but you wanted to travel.
Why do you look for a house?
And I told her, dude, I need to settle down to eat correctly.
That is weird.
But I need a kitchen.
I need a freezer.
I need these things.
not for the rest of my life, but I need to take important decisions in the next couple of months.
I need to organize and plan very, very important things for my future and my son's future in the
next couple of weeks and months. So I have to have a clear mind and I can only have a clear mind if I
eat clean. So I need a fridge. I need a good kitchen. I need to settle down for a little bit.
I need to eat healthy and then we can go on. And I saw, I've seen the, the effect on my child.
it was huge.
He spent so much more time
on his computer
while eating crap.
When we changed our
diet, he wasn't even able to sit
on that shit for too long.
He had so much energy. He really
wanted to explore more. So I could
tell the shift he
made from being
more quiet and
less energy. He's
always like, kids have energy,
but less energy than like a Labrador or like a retriever, you know.
And this changed completely.
And seeing now that we are getting back into shape, doing more sports again,
it is a game changer.
And I can say for every homeschooling and schooling family,
I think this is the baseline of how I measure success
for my child's educational journey, how healthy he is
and what he chooses to eat and whatnot.
And I'm so proud now that, I mean,
the first time when he mentioned no pasta anymore,
I was like, okay, dude, something is wrong with him, obviously.
But now it makes me really proud because now I have this awesome kid here
that is eating healthy, healthier than me,
healthier than anyone I know, to be honest, like no personally.
But to be honest, the next hard thing,
like really, really difficult thing
will be to avoid all the Christmas food.
That is hard.
But I need to try everything really
because I didn't come to Mexico all the way
to not try the food.
So I will eat my way through all the Christmas food
like I eat my way through all the tacos I find.
But again, like you have the tools,
you know what you need to get back in order.
So that's powerful in itself.
Quick question, was your child also vegan?
when you were vegan? No, never, never, never. I would never oppose this on my kid. That is sick.
Yes, I actually, I agree. I agree. You're not giving them the right nutrients to develop
properly. No, he was always free to eat whatever the fuck he wants. And I was very lucky.
We had like a ecological producing butcher thing right around the corner. So I was like,
if you want to try meat and you know it's dead animals just we can go there and it didn't make
any difference for him i was like this is dead animal you know that like all these vegan moms
did this is a dead animal and he was like yeah it's tasty i was like wow this is so cruel
but i feel the same and i just tried crocodile for the first time and i was like oh my god it's
so good oh really i've never tried it interesting oh oh you have to do it i mean it's basically
chicken wild chicken taste somehow like that but i think i want to collect as many different
tastes of animals as as possible we tried camel two months ago it was awesome like fresh from the
desert was ah that was so good that's all yeah and yeah and i think it has an effect you know what
um what i really think and maybe this is a question for you i don't really like killing
and this is my biggest issue I can go out and kill a snake a crocodile a fish I can do that
and I can open it I can clean it but something with hair like a furry animal I cannot kill that
that is such an issue for me and thinking about okay now I buy this dead cow or this chicken and
I love chicken in real life they're awesome animals they're so intelligent and I can be
friends with them and we had a pet chicken so now it's like dude how do you do this because every
time I eat it, I feel like, oh my God, this could have been
my friend.
Well, thankfully, there's a
division of labor, right? Capitalism. So
someone else does that for you. You just buy it.
Thank God.
I guess, again, it's
a psychological thing. I think
people who say they couldn't
kill an animal
would kill an animal if they had to.
Like, you're starving
out there in nature, and you have your child
starving, I think you would kill an animal.
I think if you're a child or this animal
yeah, it's a psychological thing
it's like a barrier when someone has to go through
and I'm not pro
just killing for fun, no, no, no
if you're going to go out hunting, I've wanted to go hunting
I actually started archery
in high school because I wanted to
practice so I could go hunting one day
but I believe that if you go hunting
it's like, you'll eat the animal
you will take the fur
you'll in a way
honor its death in a way
by using it completely
eating the bone, like the tuetano, the fat in the bone.
Oh, I love tuetano.
And one of my favorite things to do before I was carnivore,
my mom would get this fat in the bone marrow
and put it in a tortilla, the corn.
Put some salt, some lemon, and then you eat it up.
Oof, that was delicious.
And basically, that's how I see it.
Killing an animal is simply you doing
what nature has designed you to do,
to feast on other animals to survive.
I don't know if you're religious or not.
Not at all.
Not at all, yeah.
Well, I had my journey there as well.
Like, you know, typical high school, atheist,
and then maybe around university.
I forgot the...
You're not atheist per se,
but you believe that there could be a God,
but you're not really sure.
I forgot the word for that.
But anyways, yeah, I forgot the word.
But anyways, after that, I've been getting more into religion.
My wife as well.
She was zero religious about it.
Well, zero pro-religion.
She had bad experiences with the church and stuff like that.
The priests are all machista.
I forgot the word.
Yeah, we can leave it in like that.
Yeah, I have the same opinion.
yeah so yeah but uh with all the brainwashing going on from the garment side of things it's
like okay so i think it's a better idea to have like it's humans have this spiritual need this
spiritual void that must be filled with something even those who are consider themselves atheists
in my opinion there is no real atheist because you believe in something else you'll believe in
the state you'll believe in the science tm right so we'd rather fill that void that's human
with something that's been going on for thousands of years,
something that teaches you values and stuff like that.
If they don't want to do that later on when they're adults, okay.
But we want to protect them as much as we can
from filling in that void from things that come from the state,
not even knowing your gender.
That's how we view it.
Nice.
I like that idea.
I mean, I do believe in God,
and I try to have a good connection to whatever is happening up there,
down there wherever this is whatever it is but like organized religion gives me the creep somehow
because i always think like dude who are you you're standing between me and god i don't know
who put you there i didn't do it so i don't know if i need you but anyway it is what it is but
that is quite interesting because i studied religious studies so i've been visiting so
many different religious cults and directions tried out really anything that um came up i still
do it if a stranger on the street is asking oh you want to see the church yeah i want to see your
church this church i want to hear how you pray i want to know everything i love it it's my favorite
thing to do we uh spent some time in portugal and there was like a yeah like a lady and she was like
inviting us to her church and i was like yes that is gonna be awesome let's follow a stranger
into the church. And it was really awesome because it always reminds me of, I love how people love
God, but I don't need anyone to teach me how to love God, to be honest. So not doing it. Yeah.
How do you cope with being so different from everyone else? I mean, you're not eating normally.
You're not teaching your kids, like educating them in the normal way. You're not doing your
finances in the normal way. I mean, I think you're getting used to it the longer you live the normal,
like for me, normal lifestyle. Let's call it the Bitcoin lifestyle. Because I think fiat lifestyle
is just dying out maybe. I hope so at least because I don't see any future for it. But how
are you coping with it? Because for me, my family hates me for living how I live. And of course,
my friends love it but it has been a really really rough journey to come to a point where i can say
dude i give no about your opinion because i see the results in my family and this is what counts
how do you do it and at what point are you in this yeah so okay so so people know i'm just 30 years
old so fairly young you could say at least that's a comment i get amongst the medical community you
know um so i'm not where i want to be yet regarding homeschooling financially and all these type of
things i'm building towards it but on my way so at the moment it's lonely because we think
completely different and it's not like we have the social or economic capital to deploy right now
to have the community we want um that is changing like my wealth has been increasing ever since i
got into bitcoin i'm not there where i want to be yet but what we decided to do is well our
community is online right now this pot my podcast that i do have allowed me to meet a lot of people
that is fantastic networking to me is one of the most important things that one should learn to do
we're social animals so it's building up the social capital online so by the time when we have
the money let say to travel which actually it i would say next year is going to be the year it like we can get in place We wanna start going to these places We want to get to know what you doing basically We want to find a place where we can find our people our community
Right now we have Paraguay in mind, freedom oriented.
I am a lot of having a plan B, plan C, passport or residency.
I want to accumulate passports and residencies.
Yes, me too.
Yes, you should get Mexico.
it's a good one.
I'm on it.
Yes.
And so the way I deal with it,
the loneliness is it's online basically.
And well,
my work,
my work doesn't allow me to have too much free time anyways,
but I cope with it by being with people I want online and forming those
communities.
As for my children and my,
my,
my wife,
that's hard.
There is a large homeschooling community and we're in the city where I
live.
The pandemic kind of kicked that off.
So that,
that helps a lot.
um my wife's a bit more reserved person so i'm the one who kind of has to like
push her to like go out you know what i mean and it's she's pregnant right now so that's that's i
can't really be forcing her to do that right now and she also has a lupus so that's some actually
what's one of the things that helped push her into carnivore um and it got so much better because of
it but uh right now she's having some flares uh and for her it's been hard to stay carnivore or
ketobor but she's realized that a lot of foods don't go well with her lately really and that
to her is depressing it really makes her feel bad she can't have dairy when back then she would have
dairy you can't have pastas and stuff like she used to because it it just triggers it we're
think uh are you gonna upload this to youtube or is it like a non-censorable stuff like master yeah
master because okay we think that the vaccines were the things that triggered
their her or loophos at the end of the day because she was perfectly healthy until that moment until
she took the vaccines uh because it happened out of nowhere and there's no family history no nothing
but anyways uh moving on um i so i have to be the one i think i sometimes i'm the one who has to kind
of help our children socialize in the way that i would like them to not feel lonely you know what
i mean because you know i don't know how it is in germany or other places but uh well in germany
it's illegal but the homeschooling children kind of look like the weirdos no i remember in my in my
school like oh he's that guy was homeschooled he's he's weird you know and uh that's kind of
in general that's how it is in mexico as well but i still haven't found that community that we want
we've been finding finding other communities but we just don't we just don't have that
other mindset like bitcoin or other things so we just don't connect very well so far sorry for the
long no yeah that is awesome yeah i think we're still very very early and what i found out that
some people are into eating healthy some are into bitcoin some are into homeschooling but i don't
find too many families that really combine all these topics and go crazy on all these topics.
So finding other families that are as crazy as our family, I love it. Then I just want them to
adopt me. I want to move in, in their spare room and never want to leave again. Yeah, me too.
It is fantastic if you meet them. But what I found out also is like, if you meet these kind
of families, even if it's just for a couple of days, it gives you so much energy for the next
couple of months and this is what i try to do through world schooling like meeting all these
beautiful families along the way and it is what it is we are still trying to look for our tribe
so to say as well yeah and i really need to say the only real tribe i found was in thailand in
the middle of the jungle and it has been like maybe 30 12 11 years ago well and these people
I mean, they didn't know about Bitcoin, to be honest, you know, but they had this Bitcoin mindset and they were eating healthy and they were just different to each other.
They were very different with their kids and everything was so everything made sense to me.
And they welcomed us like we were born there.
They cared for my child like it was their child.
And they knew we would leave someday and they still put all this energy in us.
so I thought like I want to have this feeling back of being part of a community so much that
people don't even care like you're a gringo doesn't matter or anything like that and yeah let's see
because I think more and more families are like us and they look for something like this so I think
we will be lucky maybe one day yeah no there has to be with thanks to the internet communications
out there and well it's just a matter of time before we start finding each other and saying
okay this is community here here here come and visit us join buy a house buy some land around
here that's what i want uh i want my dream is to buy a big plot of land where i can build whatever
i want but nearby having a regenerative rancher you know uh all these type of things i think
make a community strong. I have a question for you. How many countries have you visited?
I don't know to be honest. Maybe like
maybe 30 or something like that. So we really traveled a lot since my son was born.
I was still studying when he was born and in Germany you have like three months of university,
three months of break and three months of university so and in these breaks i was like
i was gonna stop me so i was really trying out a lot and we never stopped like when i finished
university i packed my bags and adios amigos so we really never stopped traveling we found
some kind of places where we stayed for a couple of months longer the longest we stayed was on the
Canary Islands but because of the lockdowns and then we fell in love with the place and I found
like okay we can learn Spanish here and then we can move to like more interesting countries
but I wasn't brave enough in this state to move to South America or somewhere because I was like
dude I don't speak Spanish well enough my child is super young I have no clue how life works so
I was like, oh, Canary Islands is a good place to learn for life.
So, yeah, we did that.
But to be honest, all this world schooling experience is really, really great.
But I can only do this because I have no family.
You know, just imagine I would have a family, like a husband, more kids, grandma, grandpa, and these kind of things.
I wouldn't travel, I guess.
I would stay home, get fat and be happy.
That is what it is.
I need to be honest.
But having like this lack of family makes me, yeah,
just go around and see places.
And yeah, so my family doesn't really travel.
But I, yeah, my family is divided into mother's side,
like not traveling at all, my dad's side, all over the place,
all over the world, everywhere is like home and anyone is everywhere.
And it's just crazy.
You meet people like, what?
I'm related to you.
Why are you here?
like I'm at the end of the world.
And this is quite nice to see
because maybe it's genetics as well.
But yeah.
No, I really think traveling
is the best thing you can do for your kids.
And your kids probably speak
Spanish, English,
and this is what they need
to travel basically.
So that is easy.
That is exactly what we want to do.
Want them to experience the world.
I managed to do this when I was younger.
I've been to Europe multiple times,
Germany, Romania, Italy, China
and it really helps open your eyes
so I wanted to give that to my children as well
but perhaps even better than I experienced
I want them to actually experience the culture for some time
and working remotely
my job is remote right now
I think that gives you so much more freedom
and Bitcoin gives you a little financial freedom to do things
not worrying about your bank account being frozen or whatnot
you can go to any country and you can exchange Bitcoin
for the local fiat currency most likely.
I think anywhere in the world almost.
So that's another huge
pro for people with this type
of mentality, in my opinion.
So I think we should take that advantage.
Now, I also have another question.
What's your take
on Europe in general?
Well, more like regarding freedom
going forward. The way I see it,
and my wife sees it, it looks like Europe is going downhill.
Oh, it's so fast.
we wouldn't think living there would you no no no not at all i mean i left germany
2017 because i didn't want my kid to to get in the school system and this crazy thing what is
happening over there and i've been traveling since 2013 i've been traveling all over europe
with my kid because i really wanted to stay in europe for my grandma and my grandpa because i
promised them to not leave europe until they died they one of them is still alive but i couldn't
wait any longer. So now I'm in Mexico, but I really tried to be only like a couple of months
in Asia or somewhere else. So I really tried every damn country in Europe and I never felt like free
or relaxed or one with nature or these kinds of things that I'm looking for. What I see was like,
yeah, no, this is not for me. This is too much metrics. It's too many people. It's too much
infrastructure for everything. Like what the fuck? Who needs so much infrastructure? I don't get it.
In Portugal, we spent this year, we spent a couple of months in Portugal and they have so many streets.
It's such a small country. Why you have so many streets? I don't get it. It was such an overkill
for me. So I decided as a German, left Germany a long time ago, I don't see anything happening
over there. It is just going downhill. Everyone is hating each other. Too many migrants coming
from countries that are not culturally fitting or adapting. I also studied Islamic science for 10
years. I'm speaking Arabic. I'm really in love with this culture. So I really see it with a
divided heart, like seeing all these Muslim people coming there, having this beautiful
cultural background, but just the most stupid coming to my country. Why? And I'm so sorry to
say it like that. Call me a right-wing asshole. That's okay for me. But seeing like it and the
Germans do it as well. They export their, they're really the most stupid Germans to Spain. So
there's a region in Spain where the stupid Germans live. So yeah. So everyone is, I think
every country is doing it like that but i see it really it is on purpose and the countries are
crumbling and nobody's really doing anything about it so why staying there um and i really see like
middle and south america there they have similar problems because people here tell me yeah the
people from venezuela i'm like no i don't want this again i don't need venezuelan people now
like the whole story is repeating itself on the other side of the globe and now the venezuelans
are the bad guys infiltrating every country with their crazy ideas and mindset.
But I've seen this on the Canary Islands.
They have such a mixed culture of South America and Spain.
So I got to know the Venezuelans.
I got to know the Argentinian people.
So I got a feeling for where I wanted to live, how the people were arriving.
And I was like, Mexican people were like the best.
They were like normal human beings.
That was awesome.
So what I see in Mexico and also South America, this is going better than Europe, but way better.
I don't know what's your take on Mexico.
Please tell me something good about the country.
Yeah, no, of course.
I've been looking a lot into this flag theory, you know.
So that's why I've taken into consideration Europe.
My wife's laughing, my children are laughing.
So it could be easy for me in theory to get residency there.
and eventually citizenship.
But seeing where it's going, I'm like, no, thank you.
So where do I go? Asia?
Asia, I think, is too far away and too culturally different.
And you can get a residency,
but you can never really become a citizen of that country.
But South America, Central America,
first of all, we have this...
I forgot what the term is,
but if you're born in almost any country here
in this part of the world, you're a citizen.
And you can also easily apply for residency and stuff like that.
So about Mexico, yes, the Venezuela thing is a problem.
I think I do think it's all politically motivated.
You know, there's rumors about the United States wanting to invade
or destabilize Venezuela more than it already is.
Right. And that would trigger a massive migration crisis.
Obviously, that would go through Mexico.
all these people want to go to the united states uh mexico is obviously there on the crosshairs or
it's it's the bridge basically but regarding mexico politically it's right now there's a left we
left-leaning president it's claudia shainbaum before her was amlo andres manuel lopez obrador
i know mexican spanish people have the longest names um but very left-leaning and uh they've
been taking the they've been adopting a lot of these welfare policies and stuff so if you tell
me how mexico is going politically i would say downhill as well but but the difference is is that
it's a very incompetent
government. It's a relatively
big country.
Oh, it's huge.
It's a huge country.
And it's poor.
So the massive
surveillance, because Mexican government
has utilized
Pegasus, like the super
spyware. They have done that. They do use it.
They're one of the main users of it.
But it's for targeted individuals, because
they don't have the money.
could be like United States or in a lot of European countries,
like massive surveillance everywhere.
They're trying to do that.
Like here in my city, they're trying to put cameras up everywhere.
Merida, Yucatan, they have cameras everywhere as well.
They have so many.
They have, but they don't work all the time.
So my wife had a little car crash once over here when she was pregnant.
The police officer came and a person who crashed,
she got crashed or hit her and the car left.
and there were cameras and they checked them and officer said, okay,
one camera doesn't work. And the other one, you can't really see anything.
It's like typical Mexico, you know?
So what I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of incompetence in Mexico.
So if you know how to move around,
I think it's a lot easier to make a parallel economy in Mexico because of it.
You can live without the state.
You can find a sly roundabout way to go around them and live a pretty free
life yeah um the problem is is if you're the typical mexican like 60 of the mexican population
earns less than 700 a month so they're kind of stuck in the welfare state they're stuck in this
and that for them it's not it's not good but for those who have capital especially if you earn in
dollars or euros and live in mexico you can do you can do a lot with it and you can live in my
my opinion, a very good life. And I think foreigners are left alone much more in any country,
are left alone more than the local population. Because you're just, you're just, you're just,
that's Gringo or that German, they'll leave you alone. If you're not getting into politics or
stuff like that, you'll be, you'll be most likely left alone. So I think in that regard, Mexico is
fantastic for an expat. Like it's a lot of freedom and things if you know how to do it. But me
personally, I'm already Mexican. I want South America. I want a residency down there. And like
I said, Paraguay, Argentina, Uruguay. I know Uruguay homeschooling is a no-no, but that means Uruguay
and or Argentina is what I'm looking into right now. That's nice. You know, you really confirmed
what I felt about the Mexicans here and that if you're smart enough, you can work around
every law basically and if you're white that is uh in these kind of things it's a good thing
because i wanted to buy like a little motor scooter and i don't have residency i don't have a dress
nothing and the dude was like yeah just give me 20 pesos mass and i'm gonna do it and it's like oh
that is beautiful i love it yes and cash very cash society i think in a lot of countries they
want to make everything cashless yes that's an invasion on privacy but mexico it's still very
cash heavy um they love cash and i love it really i just love the vibe of the people because what i
encountered here was and germany has this attitude it's impossible so it's impossible it's not it's
forbidden so it's forbidden but here the people are like let's see how we do it and this is what
i really love and this is how i want to raise my kid not in this mindset of oh someone said no
but in this mindset of whatever you want to do you can find a way and this being left alone as
a gringo i feel that a lot like um they let us homeschool here because we white and nobody cares like yeah it foreign us who cares about them and yeah who cares about me I should be left alone I love it And this is where I love it here
Yeah, so I'm now gathering the
strength here to move to
an even crazier country.
For me as a German, this is already
like a lot of chaos around me. I love it.
I'm getting used to it.
But step by step.
Because what I really think is if
the more countries you can
like,
yeah put off your your travel list the more experienced you are and so the next country
won't be that crazy anymore you know what my really um yeah maybe i won't do it
until my son moved out but i really want to explore brazil but the language holy shit it's
impossible i can't really why you know spanish it should be relatively easy to learn so easy i do
understand most of it but just imagine i have to speak to people over there i couldn't so i was
like dude i know spanish i can travel to literally any other country on this continent so let's do it
and now that i made the first step more and more of my friends are like oh i'm coming with you or
oh you know where i'm moving to costa rica i'm like yes please move all here so i can travel to
every each country to visit my friends and to build communities along the way that is really beautiful
so if if if you come to the north of mexico the north is known for its beef yes we love
carne asada it's very common for like every weekend mexican friends and family to get together
and fry their their steaks on the grill have nopales and stuff like um if you do ever come
up here uh let me know uh we'll show you around the state we have barrancas del cobre which is
uh basically a canyon larger than the grand canyon united states uh we have a the cierto
samalayuca but you've already been to the desert but samalayuka is basically a desert like the
sahara you know it's all sandy and whatnot surfing sand sand surfing yes stuff like that um there's
There's a lot more distance between places and cities in the north.
Central Mexico is more like Europe.
There are cities every 30 minutes you drive out.
But it's more crowded.
I never liked crowded places that much.
I like this freedom.
But hopefully you get to know Mexico.
Again, it's a big country.
There's a lot to see.
And I hope you like it.
Yeah, it is really incredible.
Thank you so much.
If you ever come to the peninsula here, let's explore chicken country.
No, but I know a place where you can eat beef.
At least one place I found.
No, seriously.
So what is your vision for the next couple of years for everything?
How we live this Bitcoin lifestyle community?
Because what I see is really a lot of people are on the way to somewhere else,
looking for different options, building something.
So what I see is more and more unschooling, homeschooling Bitcoiners getting closer together in the same country, even maybe sometimes living in the same country.
That's unbelievable. And leaving Europe, I see more and more people just being like, OK, adios, amigos, I cannot take it anymore over there.
So I see South and Middle America as the new hubs where you should just should be to be in the new kind of I don't like to call it new world because it sounds so stupid.
but what else can I call it?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
What is your vision?
My vision,
well, it depends how far out,
but in the next few years,
I do plan,
like I mentioned earlier,
I want to get to know people online
and then know where these communities are located
or make my own communities.
That's the cool thing.
You can make your,
just do it.
If it doesn't exist,
just build it.
Just do it.
And I think Nostra is one of those things
that enables this uh yes i love it so i haven't been active in a long time but i plan on getting
back um and like you mentioned uh south america central america they're obviously not these rich
wealthy countries like you know like how europe used to be it's still wealthy but it's it's riding
on the wealth that had accumulated in the past it's parasiting off of that well but it's going
downhill in my opinion but you go but even though like in south america or south america they're
poorer countries in my opinion they're going up you know and again i mentioned the the great three
in south america for me like uruguay paraguay argentina i think they're starting to get their
their together paraguay for a long time has been very you could say right leaning uh taxes are
great that's why i have my eyes on it so where do i see myself i see myself in paraguay eating great
beef, you live in Argentina and Uruguay as well.
Uh, and, uh, having my own land and being with like-minded people,
I don't know how long that will take, but, uh, I, my, one of the things I also
want to do is I want to start getting really, really deep into the Austrian
economics rabbit hole.
I like teaching.
I've realized that with the carnivore stuff.
Um, but I also want to teach about economics because I think in the
Spanish speaking world, there's a huge lack of it, huge, huge, just like with
carnivore. There's almost no one talking about carnivore. Same thing with Austrian economics.
I want to build that. I think I want to build the community. The way I open my eyes out of nowhere,
I think people can just hear about it, listen about it. They're like, oh my God, that does
make sense. I literally changed from socialist, who doesn't know he's a socialist, but he's a
socialist, to libertarian in just a few days by reading that book. I think there's a lot of people
who are just mindlessly walking and thinking and believing things,
but they just had that moment of eye-opening moment.
They could switch and come over to our side.
And I think that's a beautiful part.
That's what I also want to do in the future.
I want to start building more Austrian economic content in Spanish.
Nice.
Yeah.
Makes sense, really, because the people I meet,
I mean, they're super intelligent, most of the people I talk to here.
although some of them never went to school
and they're so intelligent.
And giving them the tools in Spanish,
I think that would be huge.
There's a lot of potential.
Yes, so much potential.
And because I think that the average Mexican I'm meeting
is quite intelligent.
And the people in Germany,
they think of themselves like they're so intelligent,
but they're close-minded.
The big difference here is people are really open-minded.
So there is hope.
I support what you're planning
I love it
You have another advantage
In Mexico
You're in the southern part
You're around the touristic areas
There's a lot of expats there
But the real local locals in southern Mexico
I always say Mexico should be at least three different countries
North, center, and south
We're so different
Down there you have los Yucatecos
They're basically the descendants
Of the Mayans
Yes. Short people. Yeah, that's that. They're usually more reserved people.
They kind of keep the foreigners and expats out, but they're very friendly.
I think you would identify a lot with a central, especially the northern Mexico, where it's mainly settlers from Spain and stuff like that.
There's more of a wider population and we're more related to the Americans, I guess, like culture wise than the rest of Mexico.
But but a common thing in all of Mexico, I think it's a consequence of the Spanish conquista.
there's a lot of classicism.
Yes, that's right.
And so, like, if your skin tone is more towards the white,
you're usually seen as a more smarter or even respectable person
than someone who is more darker skinned.
So I think that's also a thing that expats, like, if the expats,
like la gringa or la alemana, the German, is giving financial advice
or, like, how to homeschool, I feel that a lot of Mexicans
will like take your word more seriously than another mexican because i use a mexican like
there's a common saying in mexico as well the el peor amigo el peor enemigo del mexicano es otro
mexicano like the worst enemy of mexican another mexican that's like it's really sad in a way a
society speaking um but i think you could help educate people just because of your samples of
of your skin tone. You simply sound more intelligent to them.
But anyways, I just brought that up because I think that's something
that Bitcoiners could use to their advantage to create the communities
in Mexico. If the smart green girl is doing this and he has clearly
money because he's a Bitcoiner, you know, then maybe we should do
what he's doing already. Yes. Listen to him at least.
I would love that. Yeah. In my mind, I was thinking about contenido
en español and then I was thinking this is maybe something my son could do because he is so much
cuter than me and he has no prior like project he would need to merge it into so I was thinking like
maybe this is something for him maybe we me and him together because he's into bitcoin he's into
homeschooling and schooling maybe we should start a spanish podcast and invite spanish-speaking
people and these kind of things and just you could try getting in contact with a bull bitcoin
so i'm i'm a missionary in bull bitcoin and if you want to do bitcoin promotional content
especially locally they're willing to fund it oh really yes so i think that would be amazing yeah
um i can i can send you the link so you can look and see you can apply basically so if you show
your YouTube channel, your podcast and everything, I'm pretty sure you'll get accepted as a missionary.
So they opened up in Mexico earlier this year.
So here in Mexico, you can use BullBitcoin to easily get pesos into your bank account and buy Bitcoin and all that stuff.
So it's really cool.
And there's like a Telegram group and everything so you can organize and talk with people.
So maybe your son could like get some help from BullBitcoin to promote Bitcoin in Mexico.
Let's do it.
I love it because I always had the idea of creating Bitcoin Canarias because I thought like the Canary Islands need Bitcoin.
Then I understood people don't give a shit.
Most of the Canary Island people are quite basic in their lifestyle and the way what they want from life.
And I see Mexicans are like so open minded.
Awesome.
Nice.
Thank you so, so much for sharing all of these insights from your family and everything with me and with the listeners, of course, too.
So if someone wants to stay up to date on what you're doing, I mean, you are a Noster, but at the moment, not so active.
Where can people find you?
I'm actually not very active.
And for the last few months, I've been doing some extra life projects.
But if I'm in Noster, I'm much more active there when I am active.
but you can also find me on YouTube as Dr. Fernando Morales.
I have all my carnivore content there.
I have a few Bitcoin episodes,
bull Bitcoin ones and stuff like that.
I do touch on,
I try to touch Austrian economics a bit in my videos,
you know,
get the people curious about it.
And that's basically it.
I'm not really in social media.
You can,
I'm in Instagram and Facebook,
but I never use it.
Don't send a message there.
If you want to message me,
message me through,
I guess,
Noster,
you know,
Not the DMs though, because they don't work.
There's a lot of scammers in there.
So just tagging me in the post and I'm pretty sure that's how you and I got in contact.
Yeah, they're through an officer.
And one last thing I should mention, this is a homeschooling podcast, right?
For those interested in homeschooling in Mexico, if there's still time, I can give a quick summary of what it looks like.
Yes, please.
So obviously I looked into this because like, can you homeschool Mexico?
question is yes you can but it's a gray zone it's neither legal nor illegal but there's a lot of
freedom like we talked about earlier you can do a lot of things without any problem and um so if
you have from the from basically from the moment the child is born at the 10 years old you do
whatever you want you can teach them whatever you want and at 10 years old if you want they can apply
to an exam to revalidate their elementary school so it's basically you you want but they have to be
10. they can be older but they have to be at least 10 years old so once they're at least 10 years old
they can apply for this uh exam it's like modules it takes it would take like around they say around
six to twelve months to complete depending on how fast and good you are but you don't even have to
go to classes they give you the the material and you just go and present your classes and it's
actually an institution if you guys are interested it's called inea i n ea you can look them up on
the website to see where's your nearest plaza comunitaria or community center to go and apply
for the exams you have to go there in person to apply and uh it's designed for adults who you know
in mexico it's a poor country a lot of adults do not have basic education so it's with them in mind
but homeschoolers have exploited it you know to like uh yep i homeschool if they do these tests
and elementary school fantastic and then middle school right but you have to be at least 15 years
old to apply for the middle school exam develop revalidation exam so from 10 to 15 you're kind of
like in this limbo you know because if you want to put your child into school you only have this um
elementary certificate so if you did it so you know if he's like 13 or 14 years old you'd have
to start high school from like i mean sorry middle school from the very beginning so you kind of have
to uh calculate that but once he's 15 he can revalidate his revalidate his or her middle
or middle school again it's it can be just an exam or you can do it with through modules which
takes more time and then once the child is 18 or the man or woman is 18 they can once again apply
to prepa abierta or cinema those two options again you just it's like it's gonna be one to
three years depending on how long how intensely you study but there's no classes they give you
the material you buy it you study and you just go and present exams it's like 22 modules each of
them costs like 100 pesos which is like five euros five dollars exactly or you can do a one-time exam
just one day it's like eight hours though but it's like one day uh it's like 3 500 pesos
150 euros i guess you could say you take it one time if you pass you got your high school
certificate right away so this is obviously perhaps for people who are interested in or want to give
their children the option to study in the university later on i don't really think i don't believe you
if you need a university to be successful in life.
But we do it either way, because you never know,
maybe the child wants to be a doctor or a lawyer.
And for that, well, you need to go to a university.
So we want to keep the options open for them.
And that's why we plan on doing it.
But there's the option if you want to homeschool Mexico.
Again, if you never, in theory,
it's a child is supposed to receive an education legally.
But since there's a lot of poverty in there,
there's these ways to go around it
And homeschoolers can take advantage of that.
Oh, yes.
So that's the gist of it.
Nice.
That is cool.
Thank you so much.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that with these exams.
I will tell my kid.
Maybe he's interested.
Yeah.
Or if the child, another technique or another thing other people employ is they get these, there's these shell schools in the United States.
So it's like legally on paper, it's a school.
But there's no physical classroom or anything, but you pay and you get like this curriculum or they send you report cards.
So, uh, when you, if you come to Mexico with a report card from one of these shell schools, it's like, you just have to revalidate like the years, like first, first, second, third, fourth grade.
And, uh, it's perhaps a more for those who are very nervous about like, oh no, I want my child to have like every year of school has to be revalidated.
You can do that revalidate in Mexico.
And you're good to go.
That's awesome.
Mexico is a wonderful place.
Enjoy.
Nice.
Really, thank you so, so much.
That was really, really, really nice to talk to you.
I learned tons and I enjoyed our talk a lot.
Enjoy it likewise.
Thank you very much for inviting me.
Nice.
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