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this is wildlife unschooling with my mom

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okay cool so this episode is going to be all about food because oh i forgot to ask you how

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do i pronounce your name correctly because from my german perspective i would say louis the jäger

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but is it right yeah well in german it sounds like that so you can yeah nice where are you from

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originally i'm from belgium i'm from belgium your name yeah that's cool so how do you pronounce

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your name from from your belgian perspective well in in flemish we say louis de jager

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in english in english you say louis or louis de jaeger louis de jaeger i've heard it all and

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i don't really mind okay so we use all of these names luigi is also luigi i will call you luigi

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You're perfect. No, you are the food god.

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And you traveled the world to find out more about food, health, soil, all the connections between these topics.

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And you are an award-winning documentary filmmaker.

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You're a speaker.

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And I think you did a pretty awesome job in collecting all this information.

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So welcome on the show.

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Maybe you want to share before we deep dive into your book topic.

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Like, how did you end up doing what you're doing?

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Because I think it's not normal to wake up one day and say, oh, I want to regenerate 550 millions of hectares in this world and save our planet.

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I mean, it's nice, but there's a story to it, isn't it?

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Yeah, well, first of all, super happy to be here, Alex.

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And yeah, it doesn't happen overnight.

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It's like a process.

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It's like, you know, I think a person's life is like an ecosystem.

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I think every person is a forest and there are some seeds planted very early on in childhood, some seeds even before you're born, like nature and nurture.

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Both of those things are seeds.

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And like, you know, there is when there's enough nutrients and enough water, these seeds start to germinate.

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And certainly you're suddenly you're like, all right, now we're going for this type of ecology, which is then, of course, a kind of mission.

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And so throughout my life, I've been getting a lot of interesting seeds.

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For example, my father has a very good friend who basically lives off grid with his solar panels.

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He grows all his food.

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And so it was really planted a lot of seeds in my mind.

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My mother had a very good friend who is like building all kind of windmills.

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He taught me how to build my own windmill with like a bike wheel and like an alternator to make a windmill that produces light.

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So, yeah, those super cool stuff.

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And I think, yeah, throughout my youth, my grandmother and my aunt both are herbalists.

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And one of my grandmothers really is like an organic freak in a good way.

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and she like says yeah only organic food enters my house and she's been yeah doing all kind of

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alternative medicine and and a very broad view on the world and and it worked she's still

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living 85 years old and walking 15 kilometers a day easily um very bright still uh so yeah i think

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all these seats really came together but i think in your youth you then like um say oh i don't want

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to do anything with all this, I'm going to do something

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entirely different, which is, I think,

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very natural.

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Suddenly, there was this aha moment

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when I realized that

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one of my

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biggest value is freedom.

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The only way you can be free

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is if you eat healthy and

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are healthy.

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How do you do that? You can

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work and earn money.

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With that money, you can go into an organic shop

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and pay a lot of money

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for food

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or it seems a lot of money.

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If you know that some people pay 300 euros or dollars a month

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for medication, then it suddenly is less money

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if you just pay a little bit more for organic food.

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But so yeah, very good food and also growing your own food

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because when I was 18 or maybe 16, 17 years old,

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I had this naive thought, well, if you grow your own food,

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it's like printing your own money.

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You know, you don't have to work to get money and then buy food.

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No, you just like skip the work part and just grow your own food.

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That's like maybe a naive thought, but that shaped my vision.

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And then I was at the place in Mexico where like everything came together in the word permaculture.

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I never heard of that word before when I was 18.

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And for me, it was like, all right, this is it.

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This is my framework.

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I want to build my life around it.

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I kind of did.

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And then, of course, evolved and also looked into agroecology, food forests, agroforestry.

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but a lot of these names have a lot of overlaps.

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So yeah, little by little.

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There is like 10 times longer,

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but I'm like keeping it short.

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You skipped like the 90% part.

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No, I really like what you said

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because I had the same thought when I was younger.

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I can just grow my food and I don't have to work.

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And my family was like, you are fucking stupid.

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And I still don't get it.

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I still have the feeling like

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this is the way I should be living like out there in the woods.

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I'm still working on, on it. It's work in progress.

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I've been traveling to many places,

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but I didn't find the place yet where I want to do that because then you're

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stuck there for quite some time. And this is the thing I think at the moment.

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there are so many crazy things going on in this world.

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Flexibility is quite important.

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And so this somehow made it for me more difficult to really go for it and be like, okay, settle here.

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I do my food thing and everything.

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I started to do it on the Canary Islands, actually.

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Oh, I love those.

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Most of these islands.

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It's also like my plan B.

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It's really nice, but don't do it.

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It's now more and more digital.

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so you have this you cannot access the beach or hiking trails without a qr code and these kind of

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things so it's slowly but surely yeah not everywhere yet but it is going i left uh i mean

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which island was that la palma but la palma is the last one so they transform it into a smart

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island at the moment oh really and it's really crazy and oh my god that's terrible yeah it's it

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is so we moved away we are now in portugal like two weeks ago i it was done with all these like

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i don't know it was the world came closer you know it was like when i moved there it was like

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so free now it's like this is the land i want to build and harvest my food from the sun and

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everything's so beautiful and then over the years it became like prison like oh my god one day i'm

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not gonna be able to leave and then i have my strawberries but what else so didn't make sense

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no way

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where are you living now in Portugal

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or in Germany

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no we live in Portugal on the campo

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like in the middle of nowhere

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basically but I don't like

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it so this won't be

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this won't be long

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there's my landlord

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with her little dog now there will be a lot of

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barking

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yeah well the thing is

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we often tend to think

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we are in one place and then we're stuck there

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or we're flexible

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I was a nomad for

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about 5 to 7 years

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and after 5 to 7 years

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I went back to Belgium

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also started a company

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to have a landscape

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design company

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that now designs places all over the world

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so that's nice to have

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be a bit grounded but like for example now i'm like starting to look to really make a

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a self-sufficient project uh for myself and my family and um but i i still have something like

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okay like in the winter you can leave it alone that's the good part of being in a temperate

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climate like okay then then you're flexible or or even if shit hits the fan then yeah then

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try to be resourceful enough

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if you have to leave to do something.

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Not that you have some roots somewhere, I think.

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It's nice. It is nice, to be honest.

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It gives the whole life a little bit of stability.

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You can build on.

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Let's maybe talk about what you said,

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that if you spend $300 a month on medication,

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you better spend it in the market

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on ecologically grown food.

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Because I have the same thought.

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Here in Portugal, it's surprisingly difficult to find good food without any chemicals.

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La Palma, it's easy.

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You just go around the corner, then you have everything you want.

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Food is growing on the street.

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Because I think a lot of people, including my family, they still don't get it.

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They think they have this scheme in their head of what is healthy through mainstream media.

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And I think it's incredibly, I don't know, surprising to me because you can just listen to your body.

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You don't have someone else to tell you actually what you put in your body.

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And what I think, I was reading stuff you've been writing and one thing you mentioned, the food is tastier if it's healthy.

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And that's actually true.

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and I think this part I don't get why people maybe they're so used to that tasteless food

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or this convenience package this is so fast and everything is so I don't know easy to handle maybe

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it is that maybe what is your thought about that because it could be so easy if people just open

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their eyes on yeah what is landing on their plate yeah 100% and I totally feel you I have the same

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with a lot of friends.

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Friends not anymore, actually.

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very conscious

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about that food really is your medicine.

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family members are like, I was literally

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chatting this morning with a friend that said,

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oh my God, I'm so tired of my parents

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not getting it.

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common. And it's

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sad, you know?

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really is your medicine and there's a saying that if food is not your medicine medicine will become

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your food and it's so true um and the problem is we stopped listening to our bodies a long time ago

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and and that's that's terrible like like your body speaks to you all the time um there is also

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a nice saying and they say listen to the whispering of your body so it doesn't have to scream

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most people wait until like

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it's starting to die

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and they're like okay now I better do something

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yeah like I have family members

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the doctors say look you have this

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inflammation on your foot for the last

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seven years now you have to stop

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drinking you just have to like

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or maybe like only drink a little bit

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but not like half a bottle of wine every day

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but they're like okay

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then they do it for half a year and then like okay

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screw it and then the inflammation comes back

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and they're like oh I have this inflammation

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and then you have to as a family member be supportive and say okay i still love you and

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you make your own choices yes um that is the hard part yeah that that's a very hard part like okay

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everybody has has the right to self-destruct themselves um uh but yeah this this the moment

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you realize that like we exist most like half more than half of ourselves are non-human cells

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then they're all like little creatures keeping us healthy that's 90 and that's 90 of your

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happiness hormone is made in your guts 90 of your serotonin is like created in your gut system so

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if you want to be happy in life uh don't buy drugs buy good food and then then you like have

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a natural high be yeah and then i think that's yeah everybody wants to be happy and but but but

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there's a long way. Also a very funny thing. In Belgium

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we have a Flemish part and a Walloon part. A French-speaking

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part and a Dutch-speaking part of Flemish. And the Walloon part

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is kind of more natural. There's much more nature.

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More rational people, I think.

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I'm maybe generalizing a bit. And we started a petition.

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in France there was a petition against

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deadly pesticides that like gathered

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more than 2 million signatures

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crazy like just a young student

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did it

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and it spread like wildfire amazing

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and we were like okay let's do it in Belgium

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it was not my idea actually it was an idea of

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another guy Philip said yeah Louis

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you want to help to spread it in Flanders

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because he's from Wallonia I was like okay

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I helped a bit with the petition

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to launch it and then in Wallonia

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it really exploded

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but even the Green Party kind of almost hijacked it a bit.

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Even it was in the media, everything.

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not one word at the politicians.

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They were like, we don't give a damn about this, you know?

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And you have these big agriculture organizations

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who are a bit conservative.

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but they're also working with certain

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agricultural organizations and she

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was like oh yeah I want to support the petition

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and I have a lot of following on

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social media so I can really boost

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it and then she talked with colleagues

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and then the colleagues said yeah but no no don't do it otherwise

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you might upset those agricultural organizations

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who are still like having farmers

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with some of them still use pesticides

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and I'm like okay but

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we're yeah if we think like

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that then we're doomed you know

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yeah that is exactly the point

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If people are annoyed, that is exactly where we need to go.

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But it is what it is, I think.

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Okay, really nice.

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Let's talk about your book because I really think you got a point.

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Regarding everything, we're so connected.

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Everything in us is connected to all the little beings in us.

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It's affecting everything we do on a daily basis, what we shovel into our mouths.

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And I think a lot of people are really disconnected from Earth, from nature,

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from all these things and um i truly believe because i saw it through traveling with my child

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to the jungle and really remote places off grid you get that connection back and you are me

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personally and my child we are really unhappy when we are in cities or when we are in surroundings

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that are too dense with too many people too many cars doesn't even need to be a city we are at the

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I don't even know the English word for it.

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Campo.

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Landside.

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Land.

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Yeah, just like countryside.

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Countryside.

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Oh, my God.

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So easy.

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Yeah, countryside.

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It's still too dense because it's still not natural anymore.

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You know what I mean?

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I mean, we have all this space, but it's not nature anymore.

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So I really think if you have this connection back,

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you really get what you're doing.

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You're not capable of picking up an apple that looks like from a commercial anymore.

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It's just impossible.

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And I really think that goes beyond your physical health.

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It's all of it.

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It's emotional.

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It's your connection to whatever you want to call it, God, universe, whoever is up there, whatever.

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I think it's all connected.

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And I think what you said about freedom, that is connected to this as well.

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Because if you have your mindset clear, of course, it's easier for you to be free.

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So it's all one thing.

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So this is why I like your work.

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So maybe you can talk a little bit about your goal of regenerating 550 million hectares, because this, I think, will change a lot for humanity, actually.

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Way more than, you know, all these, oh, we're going to do this and that and we're going to build this and that.

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I think supporting nature is really what we should be doing.

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yeah i i read a very cool quote that said uh how on earth do we need uh like scientific research

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into proving that nature is good for you it's it really we really came very far as a human species

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to need studies to to like prove yeah but it is good for you feel it you know but yeah we we came

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into a kind of world where like feeling doesn't uh isn't validated anymore you know but but i think

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everybody feels that if you go to the mountains or to the forest or to the seaside yeah look it like one of the favorite past times of of people from any walks of life even if you like super poor or even if you a billionaire

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What do you want to do?

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You go to the seaside, enjoy the waves clashing

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or go to the forest or go to the mountains.

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It's like, ah, I feel at ease again.

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Then I'm recharged and I can't go back to the city

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for a couple of months again.

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and there is a real thing called nature deficit disorder

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that says that

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we lack nature and you see that with all kind of

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mental disorders or problems that people are having

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they're sending kids to a shrink or a therapist

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or to something to make them calmer or give them

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pills to become calmer but we put people in boxes

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and a lot of these boxes are not built naturally

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like all these toxins

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that comes from paint

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from furniture, from everything

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it's full of chemicals

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and so we are bombarding our

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bodies with chemicals

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the clothes that we're wearing is also full of

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PFAS for example

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or other

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these kind of connections

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the food we're eating is full of chemicals

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the air we're breathing is full of chemicals as well

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so then it's very natural

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that we become sick or mentally not so happy anymore.

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And there are a lot of scientific studies

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that say that people have less ADHD problems

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if they're in nature, they have more concentration.

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Kids don't fight as much if there's nature around them

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in the school grounds.

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It's even like a psychological effect

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that if poor people move to places

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where there are a lot of trees,

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they become more wealthy and it's it's strange but it does something with you you feel more

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i don't know better or you feel more wealthier and wealth is a feeling it it has nothing to do

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per se with your bank account it can have to do something with your bank account but

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you can feel wealthy and have 500 euros a month or 300 euros a month and just be yeah live a simple

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life that's also wealth but but it helps to feel wealthy if you have a lot of trees around you and

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And I think when we start realizing that,

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that if you work together with nature,

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that we go much further than if we fight against it,

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then that's for me like if I had to say like one sentence

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to say, okay, hey, kitty.

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If I had to say one sentence, okay, what you do is like

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work together with nature instead of fighting against it.

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If we do that, then we solve all our problems.

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We solve floods.

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We solve our health crisis.

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We even solve war, you know?

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We have to start working together.

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That's the thing.

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That's really nice.

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And it's powerful.

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And I really do believe that as well, because I've seen people going through, like, nature just for a couple of weeks, and they came back completely different, like, changed.

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And I really believe in that power.

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And what I think is hilarious, I mean, we are nature.

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So this is it.

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I think that's the craziest part that we have to argue about this.

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We come from nature.

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We are part of nature.

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It's not going to change no matter how much technology or anything we have around us.

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Yeah.

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Our bodies is like more than half of our cells are nature.

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so we like on a microscopic level

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literally

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our nature

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what a cool dog you have

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he's a big baby

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everyone is so afraid of him

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he's just a baby and he's afraid of everything

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the most hilarious part

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people are like oh my god

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he will eat us

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and the question I hear

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the most is does he bite

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of course he is going to

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bite if you're a stupid motherfucker

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if not

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probably not but it's nice

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because of him I'm so

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much in nature it's really

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incredible I mean

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I don't know how many hours a day I spend

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in nature because I have to walk him

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and have to run around with him

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I would say

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this is therapy

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and yeah I have someone in my family this person is really depressed and I've been the same but

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having a big dog is really helping and people think it's about the dog I really think it's

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about the nature you are in every day for hours because you're running around there and

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yeah what I miss most about not living on the Canary Islands is really being in nature like

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first thing in the morning you fall out of bed we lived in the middle of the forest we I could

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walk for hours without seeing anybody around me it was the best thing ever and i really

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feel my mindset changing here i'm getting up i'm in a bad mood why the fuck i'm a happy person but

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i already feel the change settling in like oh my god it's coming closer so let's see how this is

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going yeah scary let's it is scary and there is still nature around me but not enough it's not

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wild enough it's more you know if you if you want wild nature we're we're currently uh designing in

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a hotel in the azores islands oh nice i like a totally ecological hotel with with natural wine

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natural food everything natural it's gonna be amazing um that's super natural and wild you know

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you can have like a crazy rainstorm in the day which makes like airplanes not able to land which

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which happens on every second flight.

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I love that.

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If you go to there by airplane,

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it's the only real way to get there,

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unless you have a sailboat.

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Then one of the two flights is going to not be able to land.

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I love it.

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Go there or the flight to go back.

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So it's like, you know that.

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Yeah, I love it.

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We once had a meeting with the mayor for that project,

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and we had to land on other islands.

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And we flew all the way there.

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And then we had to do an online call from one island to the other island.

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So that's super wild nature, you know?

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And super beautiful because everything grows super lush.

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It can be pretty cold as well.

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Not Germany cold, but still pretty cold.

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But then like five minutes later, the sun shines and you can walk in your bikini, you know?

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Yes.

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That sounds like Canary Island.

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Yeah, but it's greener.

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It's greener than Canary Island.

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and still less spoiled.

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Nice.

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I will check that out.

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Yeah.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah.

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Let's talk about your book

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because I think you figured out some kind of solution

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and maybe not only one,

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but you have so many ideas about what we actually can do

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instead of just sitting around complaining about that

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everything is packed in plastic in the supermarket.

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It can really change something.

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Yeah.

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The goal with the book is really to show people

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in the most simple matter as possible

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what we can do about our personal health

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but also about the health of our planet

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and how food and soil

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is like the key ingredient to do all that.

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And the nice thing is it's super easy to do

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and it's super easy understandable.

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I didn't wrote a book in scientific jargon.

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I really wrote it as a 10-year-old could understand it

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and 10-year-olds have been reading it

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and they could understand it.

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We're like, oh, my God, that's just like crazy, you know?

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So, you know, there was once a guy that said,

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everything you tell to the world,

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if a 10-year-old doesn't understand it,

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then you're not doing it right.

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So it's like my mantra.

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And so, yeah, it's super simple.

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If we save our soils, we're going to save our souls.

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And there is one very important piece of information

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that you need before you, like, talk about it.

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it's like okay in everything you do whether you're an engineer or or a gardener or uh or

460
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fixing something you first have to like assess you first have to check okay what is there a problem

461
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what's what's like going on what's what's the observation what's the current situation

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the current situation is that in uh in a little less than 25 years um 90 of our land of our planet

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earth will be degraded.

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So that's 90%.

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And that's if we continue the way

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we farm today.

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So that's 25 years. You will still

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be alive. I will still be alive. A lot of

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the listeners will still be alive.

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It's not that far ahead,

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you know, 25 years. And 90%

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of

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degenerated earth,

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it means famines. It means

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massive

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prices for food.

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We have the global warming.

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So our temperatures are rising worldwide, are getting more extreme, sometimes super cold, sometimes super hot, but sometimes super dry, sometimes super wet.

479
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And I've seen it all over the world.

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You know, I've talked to farmers.

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Sometimes I also meet people that don't really believe in climate change or in the warming of the climate.

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Mostly they live in an apartment in the city who say that.

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Farmers, they're like, OK, well, I don't care what you believe.

484
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You know, this field has been drier.

485
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it's been harder we have had more extremes there were like like monster floods that like wiped

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everything away so things are really getting worse and 25 years i know friends that say oh louie

487
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you're so funny i wish it was 25 years we only have three years left and if we don't do something

488
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then we're screwed yeah and it's happening in spain it's happening in portugal for example

489
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but also in usa it's happening all over the world and so that's a super scary thing you know i'm i'm

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I'm not easily scared by stuff, but we all need food.

491
00:27:58,659 --> 00:28:01,159
Even if you want to build a spaceship to go to Mars,

492
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:02,819
you still need food.

493
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:06,099
You still need to put something in the cans,

494
00:28:06,139 --> 00:28:09,279
or even if you make liquid gels or so to put in your,

495
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:13,819
I don't know, slurp, or I don't know how you eat or drink that.

496
00:28:14,479 --> 00:28:16,739
But it still needs to come from somewhere.

497
00:28:18,059 --> 00:28:21,959
And soil is still the best way and the easiest and cheapest way to grow food.

498
00:28:21,959 --> 00:28:28,779
and that's like one of the scariest things happening right now and we need to do something

499
00:28:28,779 --> 00:28:34,399
about it so then that's the assessment we need to do something about it because everybody wants to

500
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:42,779
have food and then what do we do about it go back to the real cause of the problem and what's what's

501
00:28:42,779 --> 00:28:50,039
the problem with humanity right now is that we like to do the following right now like

502
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,559
all of our roofs are leaking.

503
00:28:52,879 --> 00:28:53,919
We have leaks in our roof.

504
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,139
Water is dripping on our living room,

505
00:28:56,299 --> 00:28:57,939
on our rugs, on our sofas,

506
00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:58,939
on our everywhere.

507
00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:00,439
What do we do?

508
00:29:00,819 --> 00:29:02,219
First of all, you get a bucket

509
00:29:02,219 --> 00:29:04,099
to put under the leak.

510
00:29:04,339 --> 00:29:05,279
It's very logical.

511
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:08,519
Then you fix the roof, right?

512
00:29:10,219 --> 00:29:12,619
And what do we do now?

513
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,439
We don't fix the roof.

514
00:29:14,539 --> 00:29:15,679
We just buy bigger buckets

515
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:16,899
and you have all people

516
00:29:16,899 --> 00:29:17,839
selling those buckets

517
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:18,179
and say,

518
00:29:18,239 --> 00:29:19,939
I have very special buckets

519
00:29:19,939 --> 00:29:20,919
It's like super lightweight.

520
00:29:21,439 --> 00:29:24,119
Or now I have a robot that can automatically empty the buckets.

521
00:29:24,959 --> 00:29:27,679
And that's what we're like working on.

522
00:29:27,719 --> 00:29:29,279
Oh, I can build a bigger bucket.

523
00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:31,819
Oh, now mine is made out of nanomaterials.

524
00:29:32,179 --> 00:29:34,619
Oh, now I have this self-walking bucket.

525
00:29:34,999 --> 00:29:37,819
And everybody's like, oh, this bucket is way cooler than that bucket.

526
00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:40,319
Oh, buy it or buy a subscription to my bucket service.

527
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,019
And that's what we're doing right now for our agriculture,

528
00:29:44,179 --> 00:29:45,119
but also for our bodies.

529
00:29:45,259 --> 00:29:47,819
You know, people paying 300 euros a month for their medication.

530
00:29:47,819 --> 00:29:52,179
they're like just putting buckets under the leaking roof they're not fixing the roof

531
00:29:52,179 --> 00:30:00,319
and that's what's getting us here true i really like the roof thing because it really starts in

532
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:07,359
your head all the decisions you make you know what i figured out if people call me crazy for not

533
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:14,399
as your grandma i don't allow uh shit food in my household if people come around and want to cook

534
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:21,119
and share food it's like most of the time no way because i'm not gonna eat that shit

535
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:27,659
and i'm not gonna share my fucking expensive food with people that are not used to it because i mean

536
00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:34,479
you know what i mean i want to invest in people but i'm a single mom i have to watch out for my

537
00:30:34,479 --> 00:30:41,539
kids so my kid is being like fed to the top and i really think it makes a difference because they

538
00:30:41,539 --> 00:30:49,819
treat their soil differently than regular farming. And I come from a background of the last couple of

539
00:30:49,819 --> 00:30:55,259
years, really hippie dippy communities and all these, oh, we love the land and this and this.

540
00:30:55,259 --> 00:31:01,699
And I've never seen someone really self-sufficient in this hippie dippy style. And what I see is,

541
00:31:01,859 --> 00:31:08,079
and I really like that about you, you said the way is in between this Monsanto monster farming

542
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,399
and in between this hippy-dippy lifestyle.

543
00:31:10,879 --> 00:31:12,099
Maybe we can talk about this.

544
00:31:13,219 --> 00:31:15,119
Yeah, no, it's so true.

545
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:18,639
And to be honest, I also started in the hippy-dippy world,

546
00:31:18,779 --> 00:31:20,239
or how you call it.

547
00:31:20,439 --> 00:31:22,459
Never heard that, the dippy part.

548
00:31:24,339 --> 00:31:25,599
It's true, isn't it?

549
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,979
I mean, that is what I do.

550
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:29,659
Yeah.

551
00:31:31,659 --> 00:31:33,919
Idealism doesn't feed you.

552
00:31:34,919 --> 00:31:36,099
You also need to be practical.

553
00:31:36,099 --> 00:31:43,659
and um unless you you know how to be a breatharrier and can live from the from the air but i haven't

554
00:31:43,659 --> 00:31:50,739
met somebody oh i did my father is doing this i think for one year he wasn't eating and he was

555
00:31:50,739 --> 00:31:57,019
building a house the same time so he had energy output and energy had to come from somewhere he's

556
00:31:57,019 --> 00:32:03,999
the super fasting god i don't know how he does without food yeah i think so i mean i am gonna

557
00:32:03,999 --> 00:32:08,239
to ask him to reassure, but pretty sure.

558
00:32:08,239 --> 00:32:08,399
Yeah.

559
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,659
Well, maybe one year you can do it.

560
00:32:10,739 --> 00:32:14,779
If you like drinking of water and you have enough reserves or maybe have some magical

561
00:32:14,779 --> 00:32:15,159
powers.

562
00:32:15,499 --> 00:32:15,639
Yeah.

563
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:21,779
I like, I believe I always have like 1% that I believe everything because you never know

564
00:32:21,779 --> 00:32:23,139
that you might be wrong.

565
00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:25,019
So yeah, cool.

566
00:32:25,179 --> 00:32:25,759
Well, good for him.

567
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,119
So I don't want that, you know, I want to have good food.

568
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:29,299
I love food.

569
00:32:29,299 --> 00:32:37,539
so yeah we were talking about the hippie versus monsanto thing so a lot of

570
00:32:38,259 --> 00:32:45,959
idealistic people and i was one of them too are like against technology or are against

571
00:32:45,959 --> 00:32:51,139
efficiency and are even against putting things in rows that's the first thing you learn in

572
00:32:51,139 --> 00:32:55,439
permaculture is like yeah you have to use the edge and and have to have everything as

573
00:32:55,439 --> 00:33:00,439
as chaotic as possible, which is for nature very good,

574
00:33:00,439 --> 00:33:04,439
but it's not efficient if you want to grow your food.

575
00:33:04,439 --> 00:33:06,439
It is just very practical to put things on rows,

576
00:33:06,439 --> 00:33:10,439
and that nature doesn't really care if you take the same plants

577
00:33:10,439 --> 00:33:15,439
and put them in rows, but to have a very healthy polyculture,

578
00:33:15,439 --> 00:33:18,439
what means like putting different plants together.

579
00:33:18,439 --> 00:33:20,439
They don't mind that they're in rows.

580
00:33:20,439 --> 00:33:22,439
It's we humans that actually are making a problem out of it.

581
00:33:22,439 --> 00:33:28,739
of it of course it it would be better to like put everything chaotical but if you really have to get

582
00:33:28,739 --> 00:33:34,159
your calories from it then and you're gonna have a hard time to do it so we need to embrace

583
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:43,099
technology to do it and and like permaculture style if you if you spend let's say one day and

584
00:33:43,099 --> 00:33:50,079
a half per week on your land to grow your own food it's possible to like grow 80 of all your

585
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:56,279
food i know people who do that you know spend about half a day to one one day and a half and

586
00:33:56,279 --> 00:34:02,899
they're they're self-sufficient for 80 they're not growing their grains or or chocolates or

587
00:34:02,899 --> 00:34:09,879
or coffee if in europe you can't uh not yet um we still have to have a bit of patience with the

588
00:34:09,879 --> 00:34:17,399
global warming um but um but so yeah so it is possible that you you that it really takes skills

589
00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:19,059
and a lot of hard work to do so.

590
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,959
And if you then look at agriculture,

591
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:23,479
yeah, you can't,

592
00:34:23,899 --> 00:34:25,839
or I'm not against giant machines

593
00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:30,539
who like they saw a crop,

594
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:32,919
for example, to regenerate the land.

595
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:36,019
And like I teach farmers as well.

596
00:34:36,019 --> 00:34:37,719
And we have these farming programs

597
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,699
that I helped to develop

598
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:43,599
where people have to like plant

599
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,779
or saw at least five different botanical families

600
00:34:46,779 --> 00:34:49,399
as in the seeding mix to like regenerate the soil.

601
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:50,619
It's just regenerating the soil.

602
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:51,379
That's the only goal.

603
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:52,619
It's good for biodiversity,

604
00:34:52,979 --> 00:34:54,439
but also good for soil biodiversity.

605
00:34:54,439 --> 00:34:55,999
So you're feeding the earthworms,

606
00:34:56,019 --> 00:34:57,099
the bacteria, the fungi,

607
00:34:57,539 --> 00:34:58,259
because plants,

608
00:34:58,579 --> 00:35:01,099
they do not only consume from the soil,

609
00:35:01,319 --> 00:35:03,439
they mostly actually feed the soil.

610
00:35:03,799 --> 00:35:06,419
A lot of people don't know that up to 40% of all,

611
00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:08,299
all the photosynthesis they're doing,

612
00:35:08,879 --> 00:35:19,058
all the all the like I call it pancake dough that they making like the eggs the milk whatever it in it They give it via their roots to the soil

613
00:35:19,438 --> 00:35:20,338
It's called exudates.

614
00:35:20,978 --> 00:35:22,638
And so they're feeding the soil.

615
00:35:22,758 --> 00:35:24,438
So you're literally pumping food in the soil

616
00:35:24,438 --> 00:35:25,558
if you have your earth covered.

617
00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:29,178
So you have like tractors being able to do that

618
00:35:29,178 --> 00:35:31,058
on giant fields on hundreds of hectares

619
00:35:31,058 --> 00:35:33,018
at the same time they do that.

620
00:35:33,098 --> 00:35:34,518
And then the next time they come,

621
00:35:34,938 --> 00:35:37,078
a couple of months later, it's like super high.

622
00:35:37,078 --> 00:35:39,018
you have several tons per hectare

623
00:35:39,018 --> 00:35:40,558
that you grew of biomass

624
00:35:40,558 --> 00:35:42,018
and then you like

625
00:35:42,018 --> 00:35:44,038
with a

626
00:35:44,038 --> 00:35:46,498
roller crimper it's called

627
00:35:46,498 --> 00:35:48,938
or a roller faca it's like a giant

628
00:35:48,938 --> 00:35:50,278
roll with knives on it

629
00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:52,718
that like you're like crushing these plants

630
00:35:52,718 --> 00:35:54,538
just like putting

631
00:35:54,538 --> 00:35:57,078
laying them down it's in the front of the tractor

632
00:35:57,078 --> 00:35:59,098
at the back of the tractor

633
00:35:59,098 --> 00:36:00,838
they have a direct seeding machine

634
00:36:00,838 --> 00:36:02,358
what does that mean normally

635
00:36:02,358 --> 00:36:05,118
up till not so long ago

636
00:36:05,118 --> 00:36:06,378
they always had to like

637
00:36:06,378 --> 00:36:08,218
scratch the soil

638
00:36:08,218 --> 00:36:10,258
or till it or like

639
00:36:10,258 --> 00:36:12,138
remove the top layer a little bit

640
00:36:12,138 --> 00:36:13,058
so you could seed

641
00:36:13,058 --> 00:36:15,918
you could put the seeds in the soil

642
00:36:15,918 --> 00:36:17,838
so that's

643
00:36:17,838 --> 00:36:19,518
always disturbing the soil

644
00:36:19,518 --> 00:36:21,298
but the direct seeder

645
00:36:21,298 --> 00:36:23,138
they don't need to disturb the soil

646
00:36:23,138 --> 00:36:25,518
they're just perforating the soil a little bit

647
00:36:25,518 --> 00:36:26,758
to put the seeds inside

648
00:36:26,758 --> 00:36:28,918
so the structure only has to drive once

649
00:36:28,918 --> 00:36:30,898
like crushing these

650
00:36:30,898 --> 00:36:33,258
cover crops or green manures

651
00:36:33,258 --> 00:36:34,778
and at the same time

652
00:36:34,778 --> 00:36:42,378
like drilling the next crop into the ground which is going to be food the next time the tractor comes

653
00:36:42,378 --> 00:36:51,918
it will harvest that food and at the same time drill in the green manure crops again next time

654
00:36:51,918 --> 00:36:57,318
it comes it will like crush the green manure crops and put in the new crop which is going to

655
00:36:57,318 --> 00:37:01,858
be a different crop than the other one to like have a kind of rotational system and you don't

656
00:37:01,858 --> 00:37:03,918
plant one crop, you could, but it's better

657
00:37:03,918 --> 00:37:05,178
to mix crops.

658
00:37:05,878 --> 00:37:07,698
And for example, I don't know if you... Have you heard

659
00:37:07,698 --> 00:37:08,738
about the tree sisters?

660
00:37:09,838 --> 00:37:10,718
Yes, actually.

661
00:37:11,678 --> 00:37:13,898
Yes, I like that. Tell me more about

662
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:15,898
it because I'm not a pro and maybe the listeners

663
00:37:15,898 --> 00:37:16,258
either.

664
00:37:17,218 --> 00:37:19,778
So the tree sisters, that's a system that

665
00:37:19,778 --> 00:37:20,818
has been discovered in

666
00:37:20,818 --> 00:37:23,958
Mexico, for example, or in Central

667
00:37:23,958 --> 00:37:25,938
America, but also has been discovered

668
00:37:25,938 --> 00:37:27,838
in China. So people have been doing it all across

669
00:37:27,838 --> 00:37:29,898
the world. So you have the

670
00:37:29,898 --> 00:37:31,838
corn stalk, which is

671
00:37:31,838 --> 00:37:34,338
growing corn, you have beans grow next to it.

672
00:37:34,338 --> 00:37:38,198
And these beans, they like wind themselves around the corn stalk.

673
00:37:38,978 --> 00:37:44,918
These beans are edible, of course, but they also take nitrogen from the air and put it

674
00:37:44,918 --> 00:37:46,358
into the soil thanks to bacteria.

675
00:37:47,038 --> 00:37:54,338
And these beans, they're super good at it because 78% of what we are breathing is nitrogen.

676
00:37:54,958 --> 00:37:58,138
That's like fertilizer flying into the air, but they can take it.

677
00:37:58,218 --> 00:37:59,878
Plants can't do it without these bacteria.

678
00:37:59,878 --> 00:38:02,978
So they're fertilizing the soil for the corn.

679
00:38:03,558 --> 00:38:10,198
And then you grow squash or a member of the squash family next to it to cover the soil so the soil doesn't dry up.

680
00:38:10,658 --> 00:38:13,158
So it's a beautiful combination of tree plants.

681
00:38:13,398 --> 00:38:15,718
And that's like the tree sisters is a very famous one.

682
00:38:15,778 --> 00:38:17,418
But you have a lot of these combinations.

683
00:38:18,058 --> 00:38:21,318
So they have been doing it for thousands of years.

684
00:38:21,698 --> 00:38:23,378
Now people are doing this with tractors.

685
00:38:23,378 --> 00:38:28,958
And I know some modern farmers who are doing this with tractors and on giant surfaces.

686
00:38:28,958 --> 00:38:42,158
And so without this technological evolution, this direct seeding, it was not possible in the beginning of the organic revolution, which happened around a century ago.

687
00:38:42,778 --> 00:38:45,818
But now, thanks to this technology, for example, we can do it.

688
00:38:46,218 --> 00:38:54,038
And we save a lot of diesel or electricity, as you now start to have electric tractors as well.

689
00:38:54,038 --> 00:38:56,738
and you save fertilizer

690
00:38:56,738 --> 00:38:59,098
because these green manures are fertilizing

691
00:38:59,098 --> 00:39:00,838
the soil, you save pesticides because

692
00:39:00,838 --> 00:39:03,058
once your soil is super healthy

693
00:39:03,058 --> 00:39:05,118
the plants will be healthy too

694
00:39:05,118 --> 00:39:07,038
and that's the thing that

695
00:39:07,038 --> 00:39:08,278
people underestimate

696
00:39:08,278 --> 00:39:10,858
even in your garden, if you're like

697
00:39:10,858 --> 00:39:12,558
angry that your roses are attacked

698
00:39:12,558 --> 00:39:14,778
it's like yeah, but if you grow sissies

699
00:39:14,778 --> 00:39:16,678
as plants, if you grow

700
00:39:16,678 --> 00:39:18,898
pussies, then of course they're going to be

701
00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:20,978
attacked, they're weak, you're growing weaklings

702
00:39:20,978 --> 00:39:22,178
because your soil is rubbish

703
00:39:22,178 --> 00:39:27,018
and so you have to invest in this so and it's the same with your human body you know if you get sick

704
00:39:27,018 --> 00:39:34,658
all the time um there is something internally wrong that you need to fix and most of the time

705
00:39:34,658 --> 00:39:39,858
it's possible i've seen people fixing even like things that are not supposed to be fixable i have

706
00:39:39,858 --> 00:39:47,378
yeah it's it's it's crazy that that's some yeah some things that are in a modern medicine not

707
00:39:47,378 --> 00:39:50,778
fixable that are fixable with natural remedies.

708
00:39:51,418 --> 00:39:55,538
And again, here too, I don't like it when people

709
00:39:55,538 --> 00:39:59,198
say it's or modern medicine or traditional medicine.

710
00:39:59,638 --> 00:40:03,818
If you break your arm or if you need a heart transplantation,

711
00:40:03,898 --> 00:40:07,658
then it's very good to have modern medicine. But you don't need pills if you

712
00:40:07,658 --> 00:40:11,598
have a sore throat or something. Eat some raw ginger. Don't get a pill.

713
00:40:11,678 --> 00:40:15,538
Eat raw ginger and your throat pain

714
00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:23,898
will also go and and that that's with a lot with a lot of things um and and and yeah once you know

715
00:40:23,898 --> 00:40:32,958
that and and and embrace the the richness of and the traditional stuff whether it's medicine or

716
00:40:32,958 --> 00:40:38,558
agriculture with like this maya techniques literally thousands of years old i know now

717
00:40:38,558 --> 00:40:44,558
modern farmers like you know most people don't know belgium that well but you have like a province

718
00:40:44,558 --> 00:40:47,378
called West Flanders, where my grandmother is from,

719
00:40:47,438 --> 00:40:48,978
and they're really no bullshit people.

720
00:40:50,038 --> 00:40:52,898
They're also not real huggers.

721
00:40:53,058 --> 00:40:57,218
They're these more sturdy people.

722
00:40:57,378 --> 00:40:58,558
I'm from the West Flanders,

723
00:40:59,318 --> 00:41:02,118
and especially the western part of West Flanders,

724
00:41:02,218 --> 00:41:03,558
the West Corner, we call it.

725
00:41:03,658 --> 00:41:05,278
I can't say it because my grandmother is from there,

726
00:41:05,278 --> 00:41:07,038
and I'm living there too.

727
00:41:08,038 --> 00:41:13,578
It's not that extreme, but I'm just exaggerating a little bit.

728
00:41:13,578 --> 00:41:16,718
But, you know, that's like the kind of feeling you have with West Flanders.

729
00:41:16,718 --> 00:41:19,818
Like, we're like, we're, you know.

730
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:25,618
But I now even see West Flemish farmers using biodynamic techniques.

731
00:41:26,278 --> 00:41:31,178
And biodynamic techniques, you know, real diehard biodynamic farmers,

732
00:41:31,378 --> 00:41:35,978
they work together with the moon, with full moon,

733
00:41:36,178 --> 00:41:38,698
depending on the phase of the moon they plant.

734
00:41:38,698 --> 00:41:42,158
they do some things

735
00:41:42,158 --> 00:41:44,218
that are not really scientifically proven

736
00:41:44,218 --> 00:41:46,058
some things are for example with the moon

737
00:41:46,058 --> 00:41:47,378
like for example every

738
00:41:47,378 --> 00:41:50,398
professional woodworker

739
00:41:50,398 --> 00:41:52,218
knows that when you have to cut

740
00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:54,378
the tree you have to look to the moon

741
00:41:54,378 --> 00:41:56,178
phase because tree will have more

742
00:41:56,178 --> 00:41:58,258
or less water so some of the things

743
00:41:58,258 --> 00:41:59,858
are proven some of the things are not proven

744
00:41:59,858 --> 00:42:01,678
but they're trying it out

745
00:42:01,678 --> 00:42:04,098
they have like hundreds of hectares that they're working with

746
00:42:04,098 --> 00:42:05,978
like super modern machinery some of them even

747
00:42:05,978 --> 00:42:06,918
still use pesticides

748
00:42:06,918 --> 00:42:09,958
but they're like trying out all these

749
00:42:09,958 --> 00:42:11,438
weird

750
00:42:11,438 --> 00:42:13,718
air marks

751
00:42:13,718 --> 00:42:15,778
these weird things

752
00:42:15,778 --> 00:42:18,038
you know so it's so nice to

753
00:42:18,038 --> 00:42:19,878
combine stuff and

754
00:42:19,878 --> 00:42:21,998
not to close yourself for me

755
00:42:21,998 --> 00:42:23,998
personally I always try to keep an open mind

756
00:42:23,998 --> 00:42:26,098
for me it's very clear like pesticides

757
00:42:26,098 --> 00:42:28,038
we need to get rid of them as fast as

758
00:42:28,038 --> 00:42:30,038
possible any type of

759
00:42:30,038 --> 00:42:31,838
harmful chemicals but I

760
00:42:31,838 --> 00:42:33,938
still work together with farmers who are like not

761
00:42:33,938 --> 00:42:35,478
there yet they're going

762
00:42:35,478 --> 00:42:41,438
to a place without chemicals but they're not there yet and so i'm not like oh i don't want

763
00:42:41,438 --> 00:42:45,978
to see you anymore like screw screw you go away no i'm like okay you're doing great stuff it's

764
00:42:45,978 --> 00:42:51,178
you're already like only using half than all the rest and and only by having this kind of mindset

765
00:42:51,178 --> 00:42:57,638
and attitude we can also connect because if you before when i was like 18 years old and seeing all

766
00:42:57,638 --> 00:42:59,598
the anti-Monsanto films, I was

767
00:42:59,598 --> 00:43:01,338
like super angry with

768
00:43:01,338 --> 00:43:03,638
everybody and

769
00:43:03,638 --> 00:43:05,558
all the farmers

770
00:43:05,558 --> 00:43:07,018
or just everybody who was

771
00:43:07,018 --> 00:43:08,938
not perfect.

772
00:43:11,138 --> 00:43:11,678
And then

773
00:43:11,678 --> 00:43:13,598
you'll never

774
00:43:13,598 --> 00:43:14,618
inspire anybody.

775
00:43:15,298 --> 00:43:17,218
Au contraire, I know very

776
00:43:17,218 --> 00:43:19,758
high

777
00:43:19,758 --> 00:43:21,638
class professors who don't eat

778
00:43:21,638 --> 00:43:23,018
organic because they're like

779
00:43:23,018 --> 00:43:25,518
yeah,

780
00:43:25,518 --> 00:43:29,318
They had too much organic people who think they thought it better.

781
00:43:29,478 --> 00:43:33,698
That they're like, oh, screw all these better than perfect organic people.

782
00:43:33,838 --> 00:43:35,158
I don't eat organic anymore.

783
00:43:35,938 --> 00:43:36,758
Go away.

784
00:43:37,578 --> 00:43:42,938
Then you're making the opposite effect of what you actually want to achieve.

785
00:43:44,078 --> 00:43:46,178
I like that because I'm a hardliner.

786
00:43:46,178 --> 00:43:50,318
and I usually, I just don't waste time to talk to people

787
00:43:50,318 --> 00:43:56,158
who are like on the other end of the scale,

788
00:43:56,298 --> 00:43:58,078
let's say like that or other direction

789
00:43:58,078 --> 00:44:00,838
because I'm like, forget about them.

790
00:44:01,298 --> 00:44:03,038
So what I really want to know is,

791
00:44:03,038 --> 00:44:05,898
so that inspiration, that is inspiration

792
00:44:05,898 --> 00:44:10,138
to be a little bit more open-minded and yeah,

793
00:44:10,578 --> 00:44:12,118
because it is what it is.

794
00:44:12,158 --> 00:44:13,878
We're not going to solve anything through,

795
00:44:13,878 --> 00:44:21,378
I don't know standing on our point and not moving away from that um what I wanted to ask if we did

796
00:44:21,378 --> 00:44:28,078
so much damage as the human race to this planet do you think it's reversible and how much time

797
00:44:28,078 --> 00:44:34,718
would it need because from my point of view if I see what is in these pesticides and how people

798
00:44:34,718 --> 00:44:40,498
are treating this planet I'm like dude I don't even know if it makes sense or if I would just

799
00:44:40,498 --> 00:44:47,678
enjoy the rest of my life and then drop out and be happy I had a life I don't know because sometimes

800
00:44:47,678 --> 00:44:55,098
I'm really like can we even fix what we did I don't know can we it's funny when when you were

801
00:44:55,098 --> 00:44:59,998
started to talk I thought you were you were gonna say um with all the things we did wrong do we even

802
00:44:59,998 --> 00:45:05,478
deserve to keep on living on this plan oh I mean I do I don't know about the others

803
00:45:05,478 --> 00:45:10,598
No, no, no. I'm joking. I thought you were going to ask me that question. I'm not going to answer that one.

804
00:45:11,158 --> 00:45:14,238
Well, first of all, I believe in forgiveness.

805
00:45:15,338 --> 00:45:16,118
Okay, that's good.

806
00:45:16,858 --> 00:45:23,858
And, you know, most of the time, we just don't know. And you can't be angry at people that don't know or don't get it.

807
00:45:24,138 --> 00:45:32,818
That's like the worst thing you can do. I think we should treat everybody as children, including ourselves.

808
00:45:32,818 --> 00:45:40,518
And if a child doesn't want to listen or doesn't want to understand, you have to have patience.

809
00:45:40,998 --> 00:45:41,858
You have to care.

810
00:45:41,958 --> 00:45:43,438
You have to be sweet to them.

811
00:45:43,678 --> 00:45:44,918
You have to give love to them.

812
00:45:46,098 --> 00:45:49,678
I remember being a child and I did very stupid stuff.

813
00:45:49,878 --> 00:45:52,598
And my mother was angry that I did that stuff.

814
00:45:53,038 --> 00:45:54,258
But then she was also loving.

815
00:45:55,218 --> 00:46:00,478
And then I think because of that loving, I then started to listen to her again.

816
00:46:00,478 --> 00:46:08,058
yeah it's it's like a very logical thing um it's like the the punishing versus not punishing thing

817
00:46:08,058 --> 00:46:16,418
um so um now to answer your question uh can we fix it yeah we definitely can fix it you know

818
00:46:16,418 --> 00:46:23,258
my profession is running a landscape architecture uh company and we do it all the time so people

819
00:46:23,258 --> 00:46:30,018
phone us or email us and say oh we have a piece of land that's totally rubbish what do we do now

820
00:46:30,018 --> 00:46:35,078
and it's amazing to see that in a couple of years

821
00:46:35,078 --> 00:46:36,618
you can really turn things around

822
00:46:36,618 --> 00:46:42,418
and the nice thing, microorganisms are the key to everything

823
00:46:42,418 --> 00:46:44,358
so they're the key to our happiness, we already know that

824
00:46:44,358 --> 00:46:46,238
they're the key to our health, we also know that

825
00:46:46,238 --> 00:46:49,078
but they are also the key to soil regeneration

826
00:46:49,078 --> 00:46:54,998
so if you feed soil organisms, they will do the work for us

827
00:46:54,998 --> 00:46:56,478
to give you an example

828
00:46:56,478 --> 00:46:58,558
one hectare

829
00:46:58,558 --> 00:47:01,138
of land,

830
00:47:01,218 --> 00:47:02,718
which is 10,000 square meters,

831
00:47:03,418 --> 00:47:05,418
can have two tons

832
00:47:05,418 --> 00:47:06,698
of earthworms.

833
00:47:07,558 --> 00:47:09,158
So imagine two tons of people.

834
00:47:09,978 --> 00:47:11,138
Depending on where you are

835
00:47:11,138 --> 00:47:12,918
on this planet, that's a lot of people.

836
00:47:14,918 --> 00:47:16,058
Not in the US.

837
00:47:16,798 --> 00:47:17,898
I didn't say that.

838
00:47:20,238 --> 00:47:23,018
So that's a lot of people.

839
00:47:23,318 --> 00:47:25,238
And even if you're in the US, it's still a lot of people.

840
00:47:25,238 --> 00:47:30,418
or like a little less maybe but it's still enough people and they work earthworms they work 24 7

841
00:47:30,418 --> 00:47:34,958
you don't have to pay them you don't have to explain them what to do they just built the soil

842
00:47:34,958 --> 00:47:40,218
they're like underground cows they're constantly eating stuff and they're constantly pooing out

843
00:47:40,218 --> 00:47:48,978
like gold that's like the best soil you can have the earthworm castings um and so that's they're

844
00:47:48,978 --> 00:47:53,138
doing it for free you you just have to allow them and that's that's what everything is like

845
00:47:53,138 --> 00:47:58,098
for example the the the five different plant families which are then sometimes 12 different

846
00:47:58,098 --> 00:48:03,998
plants we put in the soil which pump all these different kind of nutrients in the soil they're

847
00:48:03,998 --> 00:48:07,858
like boosting the soil they're boosting the soil life and the soil life is like building complex

848
00:48:07,858 --> 00:48:13,978
structures they're building entire cities in the soil so then if you plant a seed of a desired crop

849
00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:21,138
uh thing you want to eat it will grow very good it will be very healthy and uh and and so

850
00:48:21,138 --> 00:48:29,458
So, of course, if you're in a place that's really degraded and you don't have a lot of water, because that's mostly the limiting factor, then it's harder.

851
00:48:30,538 --> 00:48:35,758
But even there, I recently talked with Tony Rinaldo.

852
00:48:36,158 --> 00:48:38,158
He's a desert regenerator.

853
00:48:38,938 --> 00:48:45,298
He's one of the guys who regenerated probably the most hectares in the world as a single human being.

854
00:48:45,298 --> 00:48:51,718
Not that he literally did it by hand, but he like put people together, spread knowledge.

855
00:48:52,118 --> 00:48:58,538
Even in Niger, for example, you have a lot of like tree stumps that are still in the ground.

856
00:48:59,058 --> 00:49:02,698
So there's still a forest, but like animals are just grazing it.

857
00:49:02,718 --> 00:49:03,598
So what did he say?

858
00:49:03,598 --> 00:49:08,758
He said, well, look, all these stumps that are still here, like always keep a couple of branches.

859
00:49:09,498 --> 00:49:12,338
So you can like cut one branch like every time.

860
00:49:12,878 --> 00:49:14,718
And then they will always re-sprout.

861
00:49:15,298 --> 00:49:17,218
and then you'll have the forest.

862
00:49:17,318 --> 00:49:19,658
And even there, you can then slowly regenerate the land.

863
00:49:20,078 --> 00:49:21,518
Other places where it's super dry,

864
00:49:21,718 --> 00:49:23,558
you can use cows to regenerate land.

865
00:49:23,838 --> 00:49:25,158
Something very contraintuitive,

866
00:49:25,398 --> 00:49:26,538
because people always think,

867
00:49:26,618 --> 00:49:27,758
oh, cows are ruining the planet.

868
00:49:28,258 --> 00:49:30,458
We're actually going to need cows to save the planet.

869
00:49:31,238 --> 00:49:33,058
I don't eat meat myself.

870
00:49:34,898 --> 00:49:36,638
I live mostly plant-based,

871
00:49:36,798 --> 00:49:39,058
unless I have desserts.

872
00:49:39,058 --> 00:49:41,738
Then sometimes it's hard to find your stracciatella ice cream

873
00:49:41,738 --> 00:49:43,438
without dairy in it.

874
00:49:45,298 --> 00:49:50,018
But we're going to need grazers to save our land.

875
00:49:50,118 --> 00:49:52,138
Why? Because they trample the soil.

876
00:49:52,218 --> 00:49:54,558
They make all these little micro ponds with their hooves.

877
00:49:55,698 --> 00:49:58,238
Their dung attracts dung beetles.

878
00:49:58,338 --> 00:49:59,618
These dung beetles eat shit.

879
00:50:00,518 --> 00:50:04,638
They dig tunnels, and these tunnels are then used to aerate the soil.

880
00:50:05,258 --> 00:50:09,618
And it's one of the fastest ways to store carbon in dry areas

881
00:50:09,618 --> 00:50:12,438
is by having grazers in a holistic grazing area.

882
00:50:12,438 --> 00:50:18,318
So I've been seeing these kind of projects all over the world,

883
00:50:18,678 --> 00:50:21,818
sometimes with my own eyes, sometimes on just photographs or film,

884
00:50:22,798 --> 00:50:25,318
where they, like, with these cows, with these animals,

885
00:50:25,578 --> 00:50:29,638
by having a very fast rotation, so they never, like, overgraze.

886
00:50:30,738 --> 00:50:33,978
They're mimicking how the bison used to graze.

887
00:50:34,878 --> 00:50:38,318
They were always close together as a herd because they were afraid of predators,

888
00:50:38,318 --> 00:50:41,058
and they never were in one place too long

889
00:50:41,058 --> 00:50:42,578
to not be eaten by predators.

890
00:50:43,018 --> 00:50:46,618
So we killed all those predators, unfortunately, as humans.

891
00:50:46,918 --> 00:50:48,858
So we have to play these predators ourselves,

892
00:50:48,978 --> 00:50:50,518
not by trying to kill them,

893
00:50:50,598 --> 00:50:53,878
but just by moving them from one area to another area

894
00:50:53,878 --> 00:50:56,318
in a very civilized, loving way.

895
00:50:57,078 --> 00:50:58,478
And that's amazing.

896
00:50:58,478 --> 00:51:02,358
And once you know the power of regeneration,

897
00:51:03,818 --> 00:51:04,778
that's fantastic.

898
00:51:04,778 --> 00:51:09,358
I once had an interview with a journalist who asked me,

899
00:51:09,358 --> 00:51:10,998
yeah, Louis, why are you not depressed?

900
00:51:11,778 --> 00:51:14,778
And I was like, oh, what a funny question.

901
00:51:15,298 --> 00:51:17,478
And then she said, yeah, but a lot of climate activists

902
00:51:17,478 --> 00:51:19,138
I interview are like super depressed.

903
00:51:19,858 --> 00:51:21,858
And I'm like, yeah, I can understand why they are

904
00:51:21,858 --> 00:51:24,518
because they're screaming and they're like doing

905
00:51:24,518 --> 00:51:26,738
all kinds of action against climate change

906
00:51:26,738 --> 00:51:30,538
or global warming, I mean, because climate change,

907
00:51:30,598 --> 00:51:31,598
we're not supposed to say that.

908
00:51:31,658 --> 00:51:34,218
That's a word that's a certain political party

909
00:51:34,218 --> 00:51:35,758
invented to make it less

910
00:51:35,758 --> 00:51:38,238
worrying. It's global

911
00:51:38,238 --> 00:51:39,578
warming. That's the real word.

912
00:51:40,798 --> 00:51:41,958
So they're constantly

913
00:51:41,958 --> 00:51:43,798
fighting against global warming,

914
00:51:44,338 --> 00:51:46,018
but it keeps on warming.

915
00:51:46,098 --> 00:51:48,258
They don't see something change. So it's

916
00:51:48,258 --> 00:51:50,098
difficult to do something for

917
00:51:50,098 --> 00:51:52,158
10, 20 years and you don't

918
00:51:52,158 --> 00:51:54,118
see change. It would probably also depress me.

919
00:51:54,398 --> 00:51:55,578
But when you plant a tree

920
00:51:55,578 --> 00:51:58,238
and you see that tree grow, it's very small.

921
00:51:58,398 --> 00:52:00,138
Today I looked at my garden

922
00:52:00,138 --> 00:52:01,698
and I said to my wife, oh look,

923
00:52:02,258 --> 00:52:04,078
that's our kaki tree. It's already

924
00:52:04,078 --> 00:52:11,778
like 70 centimeters high now i was so happy you know like i'm here i live on a sand dune here so

925
00:52:11,778 --> 00:52:17,618
it's like just sand and like it's almost impossible to grow anything but they're like oh my god look

926
00:52:17,618 --> 00:52:22,158
how big it is it's already 70 centimeters it should be two meters normally but i'm already

927
00:52:22,158 --> 00:52:28,658
happy with 70 centimeters and so like if you plant the seed and it grows it's the most magical thing

928
00:52:28,658 --> 00:52:34,698
on earth and it gives you so much hope because yeah, then you can like this morning I went

929
00:52:34,698 --> 00:52:40,419
in my garden and I picked strawberries and somebody stole my prunes, but still, yeah,

930
00:52:40,419 --> 00:52:44,558
I was a bit angry with that, but I still had five prunes that were left on the tree.

931
00:52:44,558 --> 00:52:56,358
They were already a bit eaten by animals but I like still could pick it and remove the eaten part and I made a fantastic smoothie this morning So these kind of things they give you so much hope

932
00:52:56,818 --> 00:53:00,618
And once you connect to the point I'm making,

933
00:53:00,858 --> 00:53:02,258
how can we regenerate the earth?

934
00:53:02,338 --> 00:53:03,457
Because that was your question.

935
00:53:03,538 --> 00:53:04,058
Can we do it?

936
00:53:04,238 --> 00:53:05,118
Yeah, we can.

937
00:53:05,177 --> 00:53:09,018
But we also have to show real-time benefits to people.

938
00:53:09,018 --> 00:53:12,098
And if you make it edible, if you can then make a smoothie

939
00:53:12,098 --> 00:53:15,018
or a granola bowl in the morning with your own raspberries

940
00:53:15,018 --> 00:53:17,298
raspberries and berries and prunes and whatever.

941
00:53:18,338 --> 00:53:19,278
Oh my God,

942
00:53:19,637 --> 00:53:21,198
regeneration tastes so great.

943
00:53:22,118 --> 00:53:23,457
It's so fantastic.

944
00:53:24,198 --> 00:53:24,938
Because, yeah,

945
00:53:25,578 --> 00:53:27,798
people don't realize that we have oxygen

946
00:53:27,798 --> 00:53:29,877
thanks to plants

947
00:53:29,877 --> 00:53:32,018
and also thanks to

948
00:53:32,018 --> 00:53:33,058
sea creatures, of course,

949
00:53:33,177 --> 00:53:35,137
but a lot of thanks to trees

950
00:53:35,137 --> 00:53:36,698
and thanks to plants.

951
00:53:38,278 --> 00:53:39,518
They have a joke that, well,

952
00:53:39,578 --> 00:53:41,598
if the forest would provide Wi-Fi,

953
00:53:42,058 --> 00:53:43,558
we wouldn't cut them down.

954
00:53:43,558 --> 00:53:52,358
yeah to shame they only produce oxygen yeah sad isn't it i like the part of what you said

955
00:53:52,358 --> 00:53:59,358
being really proactive and working on it like on an everyday base um it's a little bit like

956
00:53:59,358 --> 00:54:05,778
if you gift someone something it makes you as happy or even more happy than receiving a gift

957
00:54:05,778 --> 00:54:17,818
You know what I mean? So this is actually the everyday hands on experience that is connecting you not only to the outcome, but back to Mother Earth and nature.

958
00:54:17,977 --> 00:54:26,177
And I really think it's a mindset. And if you're just an Internet warrior, like, my God, everything is going to shit.

959
00:54:26,177 --> 00:54:55,177
And yeah, of course, that is varying. And I wanted to ask you something quite similar, because when you turn on the TV, it's always, of course, the negative stuff, blah, blah, blah. Where can people actually find good news about initiatives that are that are being really carried out real nice results that make us happy? Because I think it's quite hard. If you're like used to just, you know, click on the remote, like, okay, there's the shit show for today.

960
00:54:55,177 --> 00:54:57,718
but where can we find a nice shit show

961
00:54:57,718 --> 00:54:59,918
yeah yeah or no shit show

962
00:54:59,918 --> 00:55:00,358
at all

963
00:55:00,358 --> 00:55:03,698
good news show

964
00:55:03,698 --> 00:55:05,718
yeah well first of all disconnect

965
00:55:05,718 --> 00:55:07,637
your TV look I have a TV

966
00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:09,298
but it has zero connection

967
00:55:09,298 --> 00:55:11,778
the only connection it has is a HDMI cable

968
00:55:11,778 --> 00:55:13,778
HDMI cable that you can put in your laptop

969
00:55:13,778 --> 00:55:15,538
to watch some nice films

970
00:55:15,538 --> 00:55:17,298
that you really consciously choose

971
00:55:17,298 --> 00:55:19,278
so ditch your television and stop

972
00:55:19,278 --> 00:55:21,698
watching the news like be very selective

973
00:55:21,698 --> 00:55:23,137
and because like

974
00:55:23,137 --> 00:55:25,418
if you put shit in, shit will come out.

975
00:55:25,918 --> 00:55:27,558
And that's with the news. If you constantly

976
00:55:27,558 --> 00:55:28,578
put shit in, then

977
00:55:28,578 --> 00:55:31,677
some of this shit will stay in your body.

978
00:55:32,438 --> 00:55:33,518
And so

979
00:55:33,518 --> 00:55:34,498
where do you find good news?

980
00:55:35,118 --> 00:55:37,418
I think the algorithms

981
00:55:37,418 --> 00:55:39,377
on all my social media are trained now

982
00:55:39,377 --> 00:55:40,778
to only give good news to me.

983
00:55:41,957 --> 00:55:43,318
So that's like

984
00:55:43,318 --> 00:55:45,218
stop clicking on bad news.

985
00:55:45,698 --> 00:55:47,457
That helps train the algorithms well.

986
00:55:47,457 --> 00:55:49,618
And follow some people who are

987
00:55:49,618 --> 00:55:51,038
doing some nice stuff

988
00:55:51,038 --> 00:55:54,278
on social media or follow companies.

989
00:55:54,938 --> 00:55:58,157
Like I recently bumped into a very cool thing.

990
00:55:58,877 --> 00:56:01,938
It's called the happiness or no, the good news broadcast,

991
00:56:02,137 --> 00:56:03,298
I think is the name.

992
00:56:04,418 --> 00:56:05,637
I think it's on Instagram.

993
00:56:06,157 --> 00:56:09,718
And so every, I think every day or a couple of days,

994
00:56:09,877 --> 00:56:12,118
they're like posting some super cool news.

995
00:56:12,118 --> 00:56:13,798
Like for example, they posted the news,

996
00:56:13,998 --> 00:56:16,858
like one of the Nordic countries, I think it was Sweden.

997
00:56:16,858 --> 00:56:21,098
that banned all caged chickens.

998
00:56:21,877 --> 00:56:23,157
They're totally bandits.

999
00:56:23,977 --> 00:56:26,058
So, wow, fantastic.

1000
00:56:26,298 --> 00:56:28,278
It's because of normal people.

1001
00:56:28,418 --> 00:56:29,998
It's not politicians that did it.

1002
00:56:30,318 --> 00:56:31,657
It's like a small group of people who do it.

1003
00:56:31,657 --> 00:56:32,898
They can do it.

1004
00:56:33,018 --> 00:56:33,758
I can do it too.

1005
00:56:34,278 --> 00:56:35,177
So, that's empowering.

1006
00:56:36,098 --> 00:56:39,677
And, yeah, just Google good news

1007
00:56:39,677 --> 00:56:42,657
and you'll find amazing stories.

1008
00:56:42,657 --> 00:56:48,518
stories like like i'm i'm also myself constantly every day trying to spread some good news or

1009
00:56:48,518 --> 00:56:55,598
something hopeful um to like push people to to showing that yeah we have a problem we can't

1010
00:56:55,598 --> 00:57:01,318
ignore the problem you know ignoring the problem is not a good idea but yeah once you know that

1011
00:57:01,318 --> 00:57:06,058
there is a problem you have to have love for the planet you have to have love for humanity and

1012
00:57:06,058 --> 00:57:12,278
because of that love he and because the gratefulness also for everything you have around

1013
00:57:12,278 --> 00:57:17,677
then you know that well this beautiful world because it's still beautiful there are a lot of

1014
00:57:17,677 --> 00:57:24,477
things are going wrong um and and i feel that i sometimes even dream about that um

1015
00:57:24,477 --> 00:57:31,977
once you look at the beautiful part you're like okay but this is still so beautiful look look

1016
00:57:31,977 --> 00:57:36,357
look at you you're healthy it's so nice to see i'm so grateful that i'm talking to another healthy

1017
00:57:36,357 --> 00:57:44,798
person um and and and and a very bright person so so let's be grateful for that so i want the world

1018
00:57:44,798 --> 00:57:49,377
where you can thrive where your beautiful dog and cat can thrive where these beautiful streets who

1019
00:57:49,377 --> 00:57:56,138
are in my garden can thrive and and once you feel that love and you know at the same time that

1020
00:57:56,138 --> 00:58:01,298
our beautiful thing that your love is under threat and it's like okay but what can i do about it

1021
00:58:01,298 --> 00:58:05,618
and some people will do very small stuff some people will do very big stuff but it doesn't

1022
00:58:05,618 --> 00:58:12,018
matter what you do you just have to do something that's pretty cool and you know what once i started

1023
00:58:12,018 --> 00:58:18,338
to really follow a good news instead of like watching bad news stuff there is so much going

1024
00:58:18,338 --> 00:58:25,298
on on the good side oh yeah yeah it only feels like we're in the shit show because this is what

1025
00:58:25,298 --> 00:58:31,038
the mainstream media shows us but there are so many people like you that are out there and really

1026
00:58:31,038 --> 00:58:38,818
doing something so this is empowering as fuck and i think being uh happy about not only what you do

1027
00:58:38,818 --> 00:58:44,218
in your everyday life but seeing other people do it that is like you are indestructible you know

1028
00:58:44,218 --> 00:58:49,538
what i mean that gives you so much power to go on even if you have like i don't know too much to do

1029
00:58:49,538 --> 00:58:55,718
not enough energy and all these things because i think we're so many it's not like you and me it's

1030
00:58:55,718 --> 00:58:57,657
There is so many people like us.

1031
00:58:58,278 --> 00:58:59,758
That's the beautiful part.

1032
00:58:59,877 --> 00:59:02,677
You don't know it because they are not shown on the media

1033
00:59:02,677 --> 00:59:05,418
in your 8 o'clock news show.

1034
00:59:07,058 --> 00:59:08,118
But there are.

1035
00:59:08,498 --> 00:59:09,918
So I love it.

1036
00:59:11,078 --> 00:59:15,498
And that's the thing that I was blind for it.

1037
00:59:15,657 --> 00:59:17,758
I kind of knew, but I didn't want to see it.

1038
00:59:17,918 --> 00:59:21,677
But they're out for you.

1039
00:59:22,418 --> 00:59:23,657
They want to get you.

1040
00:59:24,078 --> 00:59:25,058
I didn't want to believe that.

1041
00:59:25,058 --> 00:59:35,438
But it's like I'm writing a new book right now about all the ways we're being polluted, which is like you're polluted like with everything.

1042
00:59:36,377 --> 00:59:44,398
And then I really like had to face the reality and see that they're really out to get you, you know, with the news.

1043
00:59:44,538 --> 00:59:51,718
I know people who work at a very high level in news companies who are like or are leaving or are like trying to still do something good.

1044
00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:54,457
But people are paid by the click, you know.

1045
00:59:55,058 --> 00:59:56,578
And bad news sells.

1046
00:59:56,977 --> 00:59:58,998
Even for very high educated people.

1047
00:59:59,238 --> 01:00:00,318
Or low educated people.

1048
01:00:00,418 --> 01:00:01,977
It's all the same bad news sells.

1049
01:00:02,218 --> 01:00:04,318
So the more horrible news.

1050
01:00:04,538 --> 01:00:05,758
And how you call it.

1051
01:00:05,798 --> 01:00:07,098
Shit shows they present.

1052
01:00:07,698 --> 01:00:08,898
The more it's going to sell.

1053
01:00:09,218 --> 01:00:11,078
So they want to get money.

1054
01:00:11,338 --> 01:00:14,278
It's the same with medication.

1055
01:00:14,778 --> 01:00:15,977
A healthy body doesn't need.

1056
01:00:15,977 --> 01:00:16,898
A lot of medication.

1057
01:00:17,198 --> 01:00:17,477
Only like.

1058
01:00:18,857 --> 01:00:22,238
If you had a bad thing happening to you.

1059
01:00:22,278 --> 01:00:23,278
But most of the time you don't need it.

1060
01:00:23,518 --> 01:00:24,798
You can just eat some ginger.

1061
01:00:24,798 --> 01:00:27,038
or make some herbal tea or something.

1062
01:00:28,657 --> 01:00:30,018
But they want a subscription.

1063
01:00:30,377 --> 01:00:34,338
They want you to be subscribed to their pills

1064
01:00:34,338 --> 01:00:35,758
that will make you slim again.

1065
01:00:36,258 --> 01:00:37,818
And that costs you 300 euros a month.

1066
01:00:39,538 --> 01:00:41,198
The same with soils.

1067
01:00:41,338 --> 01:00:42,657
If soils are unhealthy,

1068
01:00:43,278 --> 01:00:45,338
they want you to have a subscription to their seeds,

1069
01:00:45,538 --> 01:00:46,838
a subscription to their pesticides,

1070
01:00:47,638 --> 01:00:49,157
a subscription to their tractors.

1071
01:00:49,677 --> 01:00:52,098
They want you to have a subscription to everything.

1072
01:00:52,098 --> 01:00:59,318
And for that, you need to make a conscious effort to look at where your food is coming from.

1073
01:00:59,477 --> 01:01:08,477
And you have this very famous infographic that shows, well, these 10 companies control almost all of your food.

1074
01:01:08,677 --> 01:01:10,238
I think you probably have seen it.

1075
01:01:11,657 --> 01:01:12,698
Just Google that.

1076
01:01:13,457 --> 01:01:15,877
Google that, which 10 companies control all of our food.

1077
01:01:16,398 --> 01:01:17,698
Don't buy those anymore.

1078
01:01:18,078 --> 01:01:18,477
Yes.

1079
01:01:18,798 --> 01:01:19,498
And it's easy.

1080
01:01:19,998 --> 01:01:20,198
Yeah.

1081
01:01:20,418 --> 01:01:20,977
They're not organic.

1082
01:01:20,977 --> 01:01:21,818
It's actually easy.

1083
01:01:21,818 --> 01:01:23,477
Yeah, they are not organic, first of all.

1084
01:01:23,657 --> 01:01:27,998
And when you realize, I mean, I went through this process when I was pregnant.

1085
01:01:28,218 --> 01:01:30,238
I was like, it wasn't conscious.

1086
01:01:30,538 --> 01:01:34,157
I think the baby told me not to eat that shit anymore.

1087
01:01:34,657 --> 01:01:37,198
And then I went through the supermarket and I realized, okay,

1088
01:01:37,198 --> 01:01:40,758
the only thing I can eat is the vegetable and fruit section.

1089
01:01:40,918 --> 01:01:44,058
Everything else is poisoned, even the fruits maybe, you know.

1090
01:01:44,518 --> 01:01:45,898
So I changed my mindset.

1091
01:01:46,318 --> 01:01:46,457
Yeah.

1092
01:01:47,177 --> 01:01:49,477
And you don't even need the rest.

1093
01:01:49,477 --> 01:01:51,418
That is the most hilarious part.

1094
01:01:51,418 --> 01:01:52,738
You can just skip it completely.

1095
01:01:52,857 --> 01:01:59,977
The supermarket is 90% no-go area and just 10% what you really, really need in your life.

1096
01:02:00,238 --> 01:02:05,877
Once I realized that I don't need anything of these things, my life got so much easier.

1097
01:02:06,318 --> 01:02:11,338
So it's not because people often when I tell them, like, I don't even buy these things.

1098
01:02:11,338 --> 01:02:12,778
They're like, what are you eating?

1099
01:02:13,218 --> 01:02:16,138
I mean, all the rest of nature is producing, first of all.

1100
01:02:16,138 --> 01:02:23,798
And secondly, if you really, it's like minimalizing your food consumption or your food.

1101
01:02:24,477 --> 01:02:25,338
I don't know.

1102
01:02:25,398 --> 01:02:27,957
It's maybe even addiction at some point.

1103
01:02:27,957 --> 01:02:32,258
If you just skip that part, it makes everything easier in your life.

1104
01:02:32,357 --> 01:02:37,758
Maybe it's not making it easier to go out and eat with your friends that still eat differently from you.

1105
01:02:37,918 --> 01:02:43,857
But it makes everything easier from your mindset to how you organize your life and all these things.

1106
01:02:43,857 --> 01:02:45,957
So it's really worth the effort.

1107
01:02:45,957 --> 01:02:46,877
and it's not an

1108
01:02:46,877 --> 01:02:49,798
yeah sometimes I get this

1109
01:02:49,798 --> 01:02:51,477
yeah it's too much work thing

1110
01:02:51,477 --> 01:02:53,598
it's too much of a hustle to

1111
01:02:53,598 --> 01:02:55,258
get into this new lifestyle

1112
01:02:55,258 --> 01:02:57,698
it's actually not that hard because we're

1113
01:02:57,698 --> 01:02:59,438
human beings and this is where we come from

1114
01:02:59,438 --> 01:03:01,578
I think our body is like yeah eat more of that

1115
01:03:01,578 --> 01:03:03,977
so you get happier the more you get into it

1116
01:03:03,977 --> 01:03:04,977
and then

1117
01:03:04,977 --> 01:03:06,877
it's a self

1118
01:03:06,877 --> 01:03:08,377
sustainable

1119
01:03:08,377 --> 01:03:10,778
thing how you eat

1120
01:03:10,778 --> 01:03:12,338
I really think so

1121
01:03:12,338 --> 01:03:15,758
we go evolve for thousands or even 10 or hundreds of thousands

1122
01:03:15,758 --> 01:03:20,377
of years with all these natural stuff we didn't co-evolve with all these chemicals only exist for

1123
01:03:20,377 --> 01:03:28,477
10 50 maybe 100 years so that's uh our body is not used to to all these chemicals and and it's

1124
01:03:28,477 --> 01:03:32,578
sometimes even cheaper i know people that switch to organic foods and it became cheaper because

1125
01:03:32,578 --> 01:03:38,357
they just have like a subscription to this food box of vegetables and fruit so they don't buy

1126
01:03:38,357 --> 01:03:45,618
pringles anymore they don't buy all this little garbage that it's like cool uh but like those are

1127
01:03:45,618 --> 01:03:50,157
the thing that really costs a lot of money a funny thing is i actually like processed foods

1128
01:03:50,157 --> 01:03:58,477
um which is like very contra intuitive so i like to be able to put a open my freezer take a pizza

1129
01:03:58,477 --> 01:04:02,918
put it in the oven and eat it it's so handy you know i sometimes don't have enough time so i really

1130
01:04:02,918 --> 01:04:08,018
love that people also like saying oh what the heck you're like you can still eat processed food

1131
01:04:08,018 --> 01:04:10,258
they also exist organic

1132
01:04:10,258 --> 01:04:11,877
and sometimes

1133
01:04:11,877 --> 01:04:14,018
they're sometimes even

1134
01:04:14,018 --> 01:04:16,177
like as expensive

1135
01:04:16,177 --> 01:04:18,278
as like a famous brand

1136
01:04:18,278 --> 01:04:20,357
deep-freezed pizza

1137
01:04:20,357 --> 01:04:20,838
you know

1138
01:04:20,838 --> 01:04:24,398
or like you can buy canned meals

1139
01:04:24,398 --> 01:04:25,718
in organic shops

1140
01:04:25,718 --> 01:04:28,338
like I was in France and the BioCoupe for example

1141
01:04:28,338 --> 01:04:30,538
they have this I think it's called

1142
01:04:30,538 --> 01:04:32,318
Jeff and Nadine or like it's like a

1143
01:04:32,318 --> 01:04:34,498
name of a couple of it it's like just a couple

1144
01:04:34,498 --> 01:04:36,538
who like started to like make it

1145
01:04:36,538 --> 01:04:38,318
in bulk and then sell it, they can

1146
01:04:38,318 --> 01:04:39,957
food and then you can

1147
01:04:39,957 --> 01:04:40,977
just buy a meal.

1148
01:04:41,977 --> 01:04:44,338
You don't even have to cook it. You can even just buy

1149
01:04:44,338 --> 01:04:46,338
couscous and pour it over the couscous and wait

1150
01:04:46,338 --> 01:04:48,398
for a minute and you can eat it

1151
01:04:48,398 --> 01:04:50,298
instantly. So even if you're lazy,

1152
01:04:50,877 --> 01:04:52,238
you maybe have to pay a little bit more

1153
01:04:52,238 --> 01:04:54,198
because it's processed, but even if you're lazy,

1154
01:04:54,318 --> 01:04:56,238
you can still eat the best food

1155
01:04:56,238 --> 01:04:56,998
out there.

1156
01:04:58,258 --> 01:05:00,377
You don't have to go

1157
01:05:00,377 --> 01:05:01,738
back to the Middle Ages.

1158
01:05:02,357 --> 01:05:04,038
You can if you

1159
01:05:04,038 --> 01:05:04,558
like it.

1160
01:05:04,558 --> 01:05:11,518
But yeah, so that's also like a good way to like put people at ease.

1161
01:05:11,657 --> 01:05:14,078
Like you can't just put a pizza on your own.

1162
01:05:15,638 --> 01:05:16,338
It is.

1163
01:05:16,457 --> 01:05:19,618
Actually, I'm a prepper and I was thinking, okay,

1164
01:05:19,877 --> 01:05:24,477
I'm not going to buy shit food to eat in the apocalypse.

1165
01:05:24,677 --> 01:05:25,438
That's impossible.

1166
01:05:25,438 --> 01:05:29,098
I just want my good food if shit is about to go down.

1167
01:05:29,498 --> 01:05:33,218
And then I made some research and there are so many brands that sell,

1168
01:05:33,218 --> 01:05:36,698
even in glass bottles or in glass, in jars.

1169
01:05:37,118 --> 01:05:41,338
You don't even have to have this aluminum thing and all these things.

1170
01:05:41,518 --> 01:05:44,498
There is so much out there that you can choose from.

1171
01:05:44,677 --> 01:05:46,438
So I really think it's possible.

1172
01:05:46,558 --> 01:05:49,357
It's just a different kind of research you got to do.

1173
01:05:49,758 --> 01:05:53,457
But in the end, you're going to love it because it feels so nice

1174
01:05:53,457 --> 01:05:55,938
when these things arrive in your package, you know,

1175
01:05:56,058 --> 01:05:58,578
and you just know it's healthy.

1176
01:05:59,177 --> 01:06:02,518
And maybe to circle back to one of the first things you said,

1177
01:06:03,218 --> 01:06:04,457
during his podcast.

1178
01:06:05,138 --> 01:06:06,518
It's like people taste the difference.

1179
01:06:07,377 --> 01:06:09,998
I know a lot of top chefs in this world

1180
01:06:09,998 --> 01:06:11,418
and

1181
01:06:11,418 --> 01:06:14,318
most of them use the best ingredients

1182
01:06:14,318 --> 01:06:15,298
they can get

1183
01:06:15,298 --> 01:06:17,058
and most of them are organic.

1184
01:06:17,238 --> 01:06:19,457
For example, I interviewed Dan Barber,

1185
01:06:19,638 --> 01:06:21,038
a very famous guy in the USA.

1186
01:06:21,138 --> 01:06:22,498
In Europe, people don't really know him.

1187
01:06:22,918 --> 01:06:25,078
But in the USA, he's a very famous guy.

1188
01:06:25,718 --> 01:06:27,638
And he just started his own farm.

1189
01:06:28,677 --> 01:06:30,457
He invests

1190
01:06:30,457 --> 01:06:31,638
a lot of money

1191
01:06:31,638 --> 01:06:34,218
even like to create food with even better taste.

1192
01:06:34,377 --> 01:06:37,477
They're like even like crossing different varieties together

1193
01:06:37,477 --> 01:06:41,457
to create even better food instead of bigger or bulkier or whatever

1194
01:06:41,457 --> 01:06:43,258
or like easier to store.

1195
01:06:43,738 --> 01:06:44,857
No, he's like doing the opposite.

1196
01:06:45,038 --> 01:06:47,078
It's like, how can I create healthier, better food?

1197
01:06:47,477 --> 01:06:50,857
And people are paying hundreds of dollars for one meal, you know?

1198
01:06:51,258 --> 01:06:52,218
Like people are going...

1199
01:06:52,218 --> 01:06:53,398
So he's like upstate New York.

1200
01:06:53,477 --> 01:06:54,977
So people from the city are going there,

1201
01:06:55,058 --> 01:06:57,518
driving for one or two hours depending on the traffic.

1202
01:06:58,157 --> 01:07:01,618
And I don't know how much, but I think even up to...

1203
01:07:01,638 --> 01:07:04,538
$300, $400, $500, depending on how crazy you go,

1204
01:07:05,118 --> 01:07:06,078
for one meal, you know?

1205
01:07:06,638 --> 01:07:09,278
So that's the top, you know?

1206
01:07:09,758 --> 01:07:11,338
The top is already doing it.

1207
01:07:12,118 --> 01:07:15,998
The top culinary people know that this is the best taste.

1208
01:07:16,518 --> 01:07:18,157
We are eating rubbish.

1209
01:07:18,338 --> 01:07:20,877
We shouldn't allow that anymore.

1210
01:07:20,877 --> 01:07:23,818
We should demand the right, come on the street, protest,

1211
01:07:24,078 --> 01:07:27,438
and say we deserve good food, tasty food.

1212
01:07:28,957 --> 01:07:30,778
Just stop buying shit.

1213
01:07:30,778 --> 01:07:32,558
it isn't that easy

1214
01:07:32,558 --> 01:07:34,618
really

1215
01:07:34,618 --> 01:07:36,798
so I need to cook

1216
01:07:36,798 --> 01:07:38,838
that is nice because now I'm

1217
01:07:38,838 --> 01:07:40,718
a little bit more motivated before I was like

1218
01:07:40,718 --> 01:07:41,278
I don't know

1219
01:07:41,278 --> 01:07:44,738
now I feel like okay I gotta do

1220
01:07:44,738 --> 01:07:45,677
something about it

1221
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go and take that knife and cut some

1222
01:07:47,618 --> 01:07:50,638
delicious tomatoes

1223
01:07:50,638 --> 01:07:52,338
really nice

1224
01:07:52,338 --> 01:07:54,838
I really enjoyed our talk I think I learned a lot

1225
01:07:54,838 --> 01:07:56,538
although I thought I know

1226
01:07:56,538 --> 01:07:58,498
quite some things about

1227
01:07:58,498 --> 01:08:00,038
what you're working on

1228
01:08:00,038 --> 01:08:01,298
I really enjoyed that.

1229
01:08:02,157 --> 01:08:02,438
Yes.

1230
01:08:02,618 --> 01:08:03,318
Thank you so much.

1231
01:08:03,377 --> 01:08:06,298
I will put all the links to your work in the podcast description.

1232
01:08:06,538 --> 01:08:09,177
So everyone can find your work with one click.

1233
01:08:09,977 --> 01:08:11,877
And that's it.

1234
01:08:11,998 --> 01:08:12,538
You want to,

1235
01:08:12,778 --> 01:08:13,538
I don't know,

1236
01:08:13,838 --> 01:08:20,078
say one important thing you want to give the people or the listeners to,

1237
01:08:20,458 --> 01:08:20,877
I don't know.

1238
01:08:20,958 --> 01:08:21,198
Yeah.

1239
01:08:21,558 --> 01:08:25,817
I'm just going to repeat a quote of Margaret Mead,

1240
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who said,

1241
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never doubt that a small number of people can change the world because it's the only thing that

1242
01:08:32,898 --> 01:08:41,258
ever has so every change is created by people just like you and me every big change we wouldn't be

1243
01:08:41,258 --> 01:08:47,917
in the air without the simple brothers right who made airplanes so although they were being

1244
01:08:47,917 --> 01:08:52,817
supposed to make bicycles they said okay let's just fly instead you know there's like just

1245
01:08:52,817 --> 01:08:54,458
crazy people doing crazy stuff.

1246
01:08:54,777 --> 01:08:56,477
We can all do it. It's in all of us.

1247
01:08:56,998 --> 01:08:57,398
And people,

1248
01:08:57,777 --> 01:09:00,498
I know people I've met, I think,

1249
01:09:00,598 --> 01:09:02,438
a girl, she was only 12 years old and she planted

1250
01:09:02,438 --> 01:09:04,538
already thousands of trees and wrote

1251
01:09:04,538 --> 01:09:06,698
a small book about it. And is now speaking

1252
01:09:06,698 --> 01:09:08,277
all over the world to promote it.

1253
01:09:08,518 --> 01:09:10,357
It's crazy. Kids can do it.

1254
01:09:10,438 --> 01:09:11,718
So why couldn't you?

1255
01:09:12,058 --> 01:09:14,578
We don't have any excuse. We can all do it.

1256
01:09:14,958 --> 01:09:16,038
I like that a lot.

1257
01:09:16,718 --> 01:09:18,538
Nice. Thank you so, so much.

1258
01:09:18,538 --> 01:09:19,817
Really appreciate it.

1259
01:09:19,817 --> 01:09:23,337
okay let's see

1260
01:09:23,337 --> 01:09:34,977
thank you so much for listening

1261
01:09:34,977 --> 01:09:40,458
thank you so much for listening if you want to support my work

1262
01:09:40,458 --> 01:09:47,237
please head over to fountain or link tree i do accept bitcoin and it means the world to me

1263
01:09:47,237 --> 01:09:48,777
if you guys support my work.

1264
01:09:49,458 --> 01:09:50,317
And leave a comment,

1265
01:09:50,938 --> 01:09:52,038
reach out to me on Noster.

1266
01:09:52,417 --> 01:09:53,958
I'm really happy to hear from you.

1267
01:09:54,237 --> 01:09:54,917
Thank you so much.

1268
01:09:55,857 --> 01:09:57,417
And if you want to have more

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01:09:57,417 --> 01:09:58,697
of wildlife unschooling,

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head over to Fountain.

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01:10:00,337 --> 01:10:02,237
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It starts with $5 a month

1273
01:10:04,737 --> 01:10:06,058
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1274
01:10:06,058 --> 01:10:07,058
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1275
01:10:07,737 --> 01:10:10,038
There you will find all bonus episodes

1276
01:10:10,038 --> 01:10:11,718
and you will have early access

1277
01:10:11,718 --> 01:10:14,337
to all my scheduled episodes.

1278
01:10:15,118 --> 01:10:17,098
Have fun and see you soon.

1279
01:10:17,237 --> 01:10:29,158
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