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Welcome to the Bitcoin Infinity Academy, brought to you by the

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Plan B Network and Bit Box.

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I'm Kwano, and, uh, I'm here as always with Luke de Wolff.

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Good morning, Luke.

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Good morning, Cano.

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Happy to be here.

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This is gonna be a fun one, isn't it?

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Yes, thi this is our third episode covering the second chapter of

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Sovereignty Through Mathematics, a a chapter called Financial Atheism.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, I know you're excited about this one and it's, uh, certainly

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a little bit more controversial, I think, than than the last one here.

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So I'm, I'm excited to dive in.

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Alright, This is financial atheism chapter two of Sovereignty through Mathematics.

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Don't trust, verify is a common saying amongst Bitcoiners that represents

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a sound attitude towards not only Bitcoin but all human power structures.

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In order to understand Bitcoin, one must admit that everything

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in society is manmade.

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Every civilization, every religion, every constitution, and every law

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is a product of human imagination.

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It wasn't until as late as the 17th century that the scientific

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methods started to become the dominant practice for describing

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how the world actually worked.

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Peer-to-peer review and repeated testing of a hypothesis are still

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quite recent human practices.

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Before this, we were basically just guessing and trusting

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authorities to a large extent.

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We still do this today, and despite our progress over the last couple of

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centuries, we still have a long way to go.

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Our brains are hardwired to follow the leader of the pack.

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The human brain is born with a plethora of cognitive biases pre-installed, and we

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have to work very hard to overcome them.

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We evolve to survive in relatively small groups, and our brains are thus not

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really made for seeing the bigger picture.

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Bitcoin's proof of Work Algorithm is constructed in such a way that it is easy

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to verify that computational power was sacrificed in order to approve a block

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of transactions and claim its reward.

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In this way, no trust in any authority is required, as it is relatively

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trivial to test the validity of a block and the transactions it contains.

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This is nothing short of a complete reimagining of how human

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society ought to be governed.

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The beauty of mathematics governs the Bitcoin system.

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Everything that ever happens in Bitcoin is open and verifiable to everyone,

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even to those who are not yet using it.

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Okay.

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Knut, what did you mean by that?

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Yeah, that, yeah, that's a big question for a big paragraph.

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Uh, yeah, it's, it's sort of, uh, saying that we, we have something

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now that is, uh, we, we have rules without rulers, I would say.

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that Bitcoin is completely auditable to everyone.

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Even the people not using it can, uh, uh, there are plenty of websites where

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you can see the, the, the blockchain.

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Of course, you need to run the software, uh, for yourself to

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actually know that what you're watching is the, the real thing.

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Uh, a third party websites can be corrupt.

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Uh, everyone should know that.

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and so, so running a node is really the only option if you really want

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to be sure that what you're seeing is actually Bitcoin and not some clone.

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Uh, but yeah.

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Uh, the, the, uh, the point about the scientific method, That is something

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where, where I'm, my mind has, uh, I've changed my mind slightly about

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some of the stuff in this chapter.

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one of those things is like the, uh, trust in the scientific method.

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Bitcoin has actually made me trust that method slightly less.

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Uh, and see the beauty of, uh, the Austrian method, which is, uh, just

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deductive reasoning and, uh, uh, coming to conclusions, about the world using a fixed

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set of, uh, axiom, uh, irrefutable axioms.

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So, which it cannot be called the, uh, scientific method because the scientific

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method re refers to empiricism.

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And, uh, the Austrian method is different like that because it's

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not really empiricism, it's an a prioritized science where, where you

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know things without having to test them.

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And any testing cannot.

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Deny nor confirm, uh, the hypothesis.

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So that's, uh, how Bitcoin differs from, from other things.

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But we'll, uh, this is sort of setting the stage here.

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We're getting into the juicy God stuff later, later in the chapter

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being, it's just foreshadowing the, the main bulk of this thing.

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So, uh, you're, you're laying the groundwork for, for quite a lot of, quite

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a lot of stuff here, I would say, but it's not quite into the controversial part yet.

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And, and, uh, Giamo pointed out to us, uh, the day before yesterday when we did

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a, a Twitter space as Giamo Soko from the Plan B Network that he would've called

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this App Chapter Financial Skepticism.

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And, uh, in hindsight, that might have been a, uh, better title.

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Even though, uh, financial atheism is a bit more on the nose and a bit

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more aggressive, but I'll, I'll, uh, lay out what I actually mean by

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atheism later in the, um, chapter.

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Onto the next one.

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After the tragic events of nine 11 in 2001, Sam Harris started writing

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his book, the End of Faith, which happened to be released around

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the same time as Richard Dawkins.

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The God Delusion, Daniel Dennet, breaking the Spell, and Christopher

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Hitchens, God is Not Great.

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Our religion poisons everything.

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These books kickstarted what in hindsight has often been referred

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to as the new atheist movement.

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Even though there has arguably never been anything new about atheism.

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Atheism must almost certainly have preceded religion since religious ideas

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require the person holding the idea to believe a certain doctrine or a story.

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Atheism is nothing but the rejection of ways to describe the world that

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are not verifiable by experimentation.

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A fly on the wall is probably an atheist by this definition of the word.

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Atheism is often accused of being just another set of beliefs, but the word

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itself describes what it is much better, a lack of belief in theistic ideas.

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It is not a code of conduct or a set of rules to live your life by.

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It is simply the rejection of that which cannot be scientifically verified.

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Many people, religious people in particular, have

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a hard time grasping this.

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If you believe that a supernatural entity created everything in everyone's

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life, you might not be too comfortable with a word that describes a complete

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rejection of what you believe created everything, including the very

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atheist that the word describes.

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of different religious worldviews that exist is probably equal to the sum of

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all religious people on the planet.

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All worldviews that reject these superstitious beliefs require, but one

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word atheism is not the opposite of religion, but it is simply the lack of it.

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Not only is, uh, that a big juicy paragraph, it's definitely one

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we disagree about quite a lot.

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And, uh, well, let's get into it.

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what I would say is, in, in hindsight, it's, uh, if I had written this

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today, I probably wouldn't have mentioned that that fucker Sam Harris,

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because I really don't like him.

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And I think he sort of ex exemplifies what, what the risk of, uh,

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rejecting religious ideas might be.

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Because, uh, he, in my view is, is someone who replaced the idea, the,

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the, uh, belief in, Dogmatic, uh, religious stuff with, uh, uh, just

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an over belief in, in the scientific method and in, uh, uh, statism.

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So during the lockdowns, for instance, he was, uh, firmly on the, um, on the

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wrong side of every debate, uh, and just, uh, thought that the government

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should decide everything for everyone.

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And this is, this is why, where my thinking is different

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on this subject today.

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I think it's, I, I, nowadays I view the state as, uh, maybe I

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did back then too, but, uh, I view the state as yet another religion.

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Back when I wrote this, I don't think I viewed it as the, the worst one,

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but I'm very close to doing that now.

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So, I mean, some religions are really wacky, but, but

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statism is a very dangerous one.

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Putting your belief in that there will be some savior here on earth, uh, regardless

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of it's a religious savior or a political one is super, super duper uh, dangerous.

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So, so my stance has always been think for yourself, do your own thing.

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Like the, that scene from Life of Brian where we're all different,

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uh, that like, that's what I want, people to, to get away from this.

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Like, there is a way to live your life.

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setting your own rules.

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that's, uh, another thing I, I think for instance, since all action is a

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product of, uh, or all human action is a product of a human feeling slightly

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uneasy and seeing something in the future that might make that future,

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uh, better for that human, where the EAs, uh, uneasiness is, uh, relieved,

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uh, that that's what triggers action.

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would never feel uneasy about a anything and thus never do anything.

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So if there is a, a, uh, um, deity, that deity is, uh, completely, uh, ha

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never has an incentive to do anything.

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So, yeah, that's, that's another thought there.

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Uh, curious to, to hear what you think about this look.

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Thanks.

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Thanks Knu.

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And well, no, no, and, and actually, uh, first I'll just say like, uh,

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I, we don't disagree about a lot in, especially in the perspective of that.

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Religion.

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Modern religions have many of their own problems.

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And, and knowing what this all ties into, I think is, is

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kind of the, the point here.

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This sort of financial atheism thing.

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Uh, I don't want us to get bogged down in the atheism of

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the financial atheism topic.

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I wanna talk about the financial atheism, but, but there are a couple of things that

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specifically I'll, I'll, um, address here.

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O one is, I, I think you, you can't avoid mentioning Sam Harris because he

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is one of the so-called four horsemen of the, whatever they called it.

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Like, it's, it's a specific group you mentioned.

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That's why you mentioned Daniel Dennet, who I think you've, you've mentioned

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this is he's underappreciated, but he is the least, uh, uh, prolific

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or the, the lowest profile of the, the four, uh, notwithstanding that

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Christopher Hitchens died, but he was very high profile while he lived.

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And Christopher Hitchens, by the way, is the, the guy among this

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group that I'm most influenced by, uh, closely followed by Richard

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Dawkins, who I think is very un uh, underappreciated too in the Bitcoin space.

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I mean, the man coined the word meme for, uh, for Christ's sake.

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And what, what, what's funny is that I think he, he had a point where he could

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have embraced meme, different meanings of the word meme, but ba basically

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he's, he stayed pretty in his thinking, although I think he, he has gone on.

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Is it, is it even a couple of Bitcoin podcasts?

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Was he on what Bitcoin did?

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No, he was, he was on, yeah, he was on the What is Money show?

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even though they, they, they didn't like nowadays, like,

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like Dawkins is old, right?

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And he refuses to touch certain subjects, economics being one of them,

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uh, and which is both good and bad.

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I, I would love to hear his ideas about it since he's been a, a bit

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of a status too, uh, and how that aligns with the atheism thought.

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Uh, but.

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I, I can understand that he doesn't wanna be, uh, you know, pigeonholed.

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I, I, I think he wants to stick to talking about biology and that he has

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dropped most of the, uh, religion versus non-religion stuff, uh, because he, uh,

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simply, simply doesn't want to go there.

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He wants to spend his time talking about biology.

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No, and, and that, that's understandable for him, but I think he's, he's, all

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four of these guys are, are influential and, and I understand why these guys

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uh, or, or even couple of decades of, of thought, and especially thought

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that was in opposition to primarily the evangelical Christian right.

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And, and I, I really think, I really think the thing here

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I, no, I wouldn't say primarily I would say, uh, primarily against Islam.

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I, I'd say like, uh, but maybe packaged in a way that made, uh, the, uh, uh,

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evangelical right in the us uh, take offense, but, but, uh, I think like the,

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what triggered these books to be written was mostly, uh, nine 11 and Islam.

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that's interesting.

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I, I, I mean, uh, I, if I'm remembering part of the cultural milieu at the time

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though, what happened after nine 11 was that the Evangelical right was ascendant

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in the United States for a while also.

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And those were the people that they were primarily bashing heads with.

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You didn't get a lot of, um, Dawkins or, or Hitchens or Sam Harris debating

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Islamic Scholars, for example.

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No, but, uh, they si uh, they, they sort of promoted people like Ayan, Harshi

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Ali, uh, and, uh, other, uh, people who had escaped, uh, Islam and, and pointed

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out that the, the underlying problem of, of, uh, is Islamist terrorists

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is Islam itself, and how, how the text, the, the texts are written in

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a certain way and which can't really be interpreted one way or another.

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And like pointing out that some ideas are really, and some cultures

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are really worse than others.

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And there's, there's no, there should be no shaming in saying that.

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And, uh, yeah, I, I agree with that very much.

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is a spicy one.

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Definitely.

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But I, I think, I think the only part that I actually disagree with here,

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because it's not a disagreement, it's just more like they, they found

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themselves bombarded on all sides really.

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The, the, uh, the neo atheists, uh, they, they got it from evangelical

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Christians, they got it from Islam.

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Maybe they were primarily targeting Islam, but they, they definitely got

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into their, they got into lots of arguments with, with, uh, or debates.

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Some of them were actually sort of debates with, with evangelical Christians.

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And, and actually this is, this is the one thing here too, is that I think you

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use atheism as sort of the, the absence of the, uh, Judeo-Christian Islamic, God,

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Uh, no, uh, the, the, the absence of any deity.

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Uh, so, so including like Zeus and Thor and all of that.

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Uh, so I'm using the same definition as Richard Dawkins uses

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in his, uh, uh, the God dilution.

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That's, that's where I got the, the it from

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But I'm saying your example you used is you're, you're basically

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counteracting specifically the, the Christian and the Islamic God, the

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this omnipotent, omnipresent thing.

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Many of the others don't do that.

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Oh, well, that, that was not in my, uh, definition of the word atheism.

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That was in my, uh, like why I, why I personally don't think that

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there's an omni potent being.

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Sure, sure, sure,

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So, so that's the definition of that.

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And, uh, but the word itself, it's, to me is atheism.

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It's, it's safe self, uh, explanatory.

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It's a rejection of, uh, theistic beliefs.

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And here I agree with Christopher Hitchens that, uh, uh, extraordinary claims,

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uh, require extraordinary evidence.

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And I haven't seen any such extraordinary evidence of the existence of any deity.

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So, so, so until I do, I remain a skeptic and not a theist.

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There we go.

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And, and actually I think when you said the term rejection here,

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this I think is important because I think many are uncomfortable,

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myself included with I identifying or self using the, the term atheist.

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And I think it is a, actually a proactive term.

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You, you say you're an atheist because you have intentionally

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rejected all of the other things.

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There's something else that is sort of the, I don't care, which

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is more, more where I'm at.

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Like I don't care, I don't, I don't actively reject the other things, but

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I, I, I don't really believe in anything specific, but I don't particularly

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care either enough to consider myself or identify with the term atheist.

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and, and, uh, uh, the word has been somewhat tainted, but to me it's, it's

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a word that is, uh, similar to the word liberalism or, or, or any other

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word that has been sort of hijacked by political forces or religious

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forces in the, in the, in the, uh, uh, talking about the word atheism.

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I, I think that, one can shun these words or use them as they were once

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intended, but, What I'm trying to do here in this chapter is just, just

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explain a opposition, like, and, and it's, it's not really a chapter about the

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debate of the existence or non-existent of God or anything, or your de or

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Christian values or anything like that.

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It's about Bitcoin, and we're getting to that

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There we go.

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Which, which is, which is why I'm not going to, uh, prolong this for

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much longer, but I, I, I will also assert one more specific disagreement.

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Uh, or at least a, at least a, a light, um, shall we say,

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maybe semantic difference.

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Uh, I think it's not actually necessarily true that atheism

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must have preceded religion.

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Uh, or at least, the, the, the idea that that humans never had ways of

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explaining that which was unknown.

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There might've been this kind of inkling of a time before

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consciousness kicked in, like, we don't really have an idea of that.

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We have biological homo sapiens, and did we have consciousness in

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the same way that entire time?

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But it's extremely likely that as long as we had what we call

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consciousness humans were using stories of some kind to describe, for

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lack of a better term, the unknown.

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And those weren't necessarily religions originally, especially

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not when humans just lived in little tribes of 20 people and stuff.

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But they did have what you might call a mythology.

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They had ways of explaining the world.

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They, they.

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Passed down the lessons of society to each other in ways that could be considered

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the beginnings of religion or story.

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In other words, that's mostly to say I don't think atheism was ever

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like a conscious thing until we intentionally rejected it through thes

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the discovery of the scientific method,

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Yeah, I mean, I mean the, the word atheism cannot exist without there

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being such a thing as theism.

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So, so I would say in the beginning there was nothing.

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Then there was religion and then there was atheism.

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The rejection of it, like, because a rejection of something, something regret.

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Is that something to, to exist first?

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although there likely was a state where, where humans existed without having some

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concept of God or, or even some concept of even things that you might call Gods.

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Uh, but, but now we're getting into like way where, where we're

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way, way too far off the path

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Yeah, yeah.

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We're going off on a tangent here, but I kind of like this one.

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I mean, the, the, we have observed chimpanzees, uh, performing, uh,

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and Bonobos, uh, performing re what looks like religious, uh, rituals.

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And I, the way I see it, you can interpret that two ways.

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Either chimpanzees and bonobos also know that God exists, or this idea of this

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proto protos scientific method that is religion exists in other primates as

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well, because what I think it is, is like trying to explain the world, uh, to

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oneself by, by trying out different ideas.

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And it might, it might take a long time before you, uh, are wise

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enough to reject the specific ideas.

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And some of these ideas may have, uh, a very long lifespan.

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Well, and, and I, I think I would assert that you don't necessarily need to reject

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them, you just need to make them useful.

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And also, uh, I don't like it when religious people try to push

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their religious beliefs on others.

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And those religions that have made that a central part of their

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religion, uh, sometimes they can be a bit of, they can be jerks,

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uh, when, when, when applying that.

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So real, real, real goofballs.

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And this applies to all religious people, including governments

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that, uh, kidnap kids and put them into schools for 12 years.

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Yeah.

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Live and live and let live.

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Definitely.

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And, and I, I know and respect many Christians.

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Uh, I Christians specifically.

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I don't actually, I don't really know many non non-Christians, religious, non.

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you know a handful of Jews, don't you

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Don't die.

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Yeah, yeah.

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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We have, uh, many you Jewish friends and I think we have some Muslim friends too.

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I think so.

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I think so.

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And, and live and let live.

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As long as, as long as they're not saying, you know, convert or die or

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convert or go to hell, uh, we're good.

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And, uh, the government basically says that with, uh, uh, convert

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as in, you know, take the jab or, uh, be ostracized from society.

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So it's all the same thing.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Alright, good.

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Here we go.

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Next one.

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In 2008, another subculture movement of unbelief was born, let's call

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it financial atheism, the rejection of unverifiable value claims.

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With the invention of Bitcoin, a way of rejecting fraudulent expressions

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of a token's value was born.

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Those of us fortunate enough to have been born in secular countries all

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enjoy not having the ideas of religious demagogues dictating our lives.

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On a daily basis, we can choose which ideas to believe in and which to reject.

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What we still have very limited means of choosing, however, are the ways in

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which we express value to each other.

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We're told to use a system in which we all have a certain number of value tokens

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assigned to our name, either as a number on a screen or as digits on paper notes.

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We all live in the collective hallucination that these numbers

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are somehow legit and that their authenticity is not to be questioned.

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A Bitcoin balance assigned to a certain Bitcoin address might seem just as

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questionable to a layman, but if you have a basic understanding of the hashing

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algorithms and the game theory behind it, it's not at the time of writing.

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The hash of the latest block on the Bitcoin blockchain

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begins with 18 zeros in a row.

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These zeros represent the proof of work that ensures that this

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block is valid and that every transaction in it actually happened.

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If you can grasp the concept of a hashing algorithm and if you have

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an intuition about mathematics, you realize the gargantuan amount

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of calculating effort that went into finding this particular hash.

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It's simply mind blowing.

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To forge a false version of a hash beginning with 18 zeros just

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wouldn't be economically viable.

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Of course, you can never actually know that a 51% attack or some other attempt at

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corrupting the blockchain hasn't occurred, but you can know that such an attack would

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require more than half of the network acting against our own economic interest.

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Bitcoin is not something to believe in.

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You don't need to trust any authority because you can validate the plausibility

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of its authenticity yourself.

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It's the financial equivalent of atheism or unbelief.

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Satoshi wasn't Jesus.

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Satoshi was Brian of Nazareth telling his fathers to think for themselves.

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I wonder how many people know that reference.

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Yeah, if, if, uh, if you don't know the last reference there, I highly

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recommend Monty Python's life of Brian.

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It's one of the best comedies ever made, in my opinion.

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anyway, this is, uh, this is the view.

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I, I somewhat still hold, or, or not somewhat.

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I, I still hold this view.

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Uh, Bitcoin is a way to, uh, verify everything like the, the only way you

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can know that no one is counter-fit.

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Uh.

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The more units of the money you are using is to know every single

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transaction that happens and that ever happened in, uh, in that system.

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And the only way to do that is to run a Bitcoin node and

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actually verify it for yourself.

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So, so, so this, in this sense, Bitcoin is the, the first

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skeptics money or atheist money or whatever you, uh, word you prefer.

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the, the only one that doesn't require belief in the central

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bank and the politicians behind the money printer to be ethical.

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Uh, and this, this is what intrigued me about Bitcoin in the beginning.

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There's, there's a, a reason that this is a quite early chapter in, in

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my book series here, because this is one of the most mind, uh, was one of

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the most mind blowing things to me.

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And I know many other people, this is what's so funny about the whole,

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um, atheist versus religious people thing in Bitcoin because I know just

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as many people that came to Bitcoin from a, uh, a religious worldview

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and that view it sort of as a cult.

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I view Bitcoiners as the, the ones leaving the cult, not the ones in the cult.

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So, but it's fascinating to me how you can end up with, uh, loving

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Bitcoin for so many different reasons.

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And there are so many different paths to the same, um, group of insights.

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So this, um, and this is my path and uh, what I've tried to explain in words here.

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On this section, we are in complete lockstep.

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I, I, uh, I completely agree with you here.

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It's, it's definitely a spicy take.

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I, I, yeah.

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It's a spicy take, but I agree with it.

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all the other money requires some kind of trust or belief and yeah, I, I just,

465
00:27:02,889 --> 00:27:05,950
I just, it's one of those things that once you get it, you get it, right?

466
00:27:05,950 --> 00:27:09,940
Like, we've talked about this before in terms of that, that there are just

467
00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:15,395
parts of the Bitcoin thing that once you understand the implications, it,

468
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,820
it, it's definitely not a good thing that all of the rest of the money in

469
00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:21,010
the world requires verification, right?

470
00:27:21,010 --> 00:27:22,750
Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sit here.

471
00:27:22,810 --> 00:27:26,530
I, I might be able to go and make the argument that there's some purpose for

472
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:32,740
religious systems and, and people can find meaning in that, but no one finds

473
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:34,870
meaning in the fiat monetary system.

474
00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:35,980
No.

475
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:40,570
And, uh, regardless of if you find meaning or not, like to actually know whether

476
00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:44,830
something is true or not, you do, you need the don't trust, verify mentality?

477
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,894
Uh, so, so sure you can derive value from a story.

478
00:27:48,894 --> 00:27:53,274
I, I, I buy that, but that doesn't necessarily make it like true in the

479
00:27:53,274 --> 00:27:55,554
sense of this is objectively true.

480
00:27:55,854 --> 00:28:01,974
So, so in my view, Bitcoin is built like, uh, skepticism is at the

481
00:28:01,974 --> 00:28:04,224
very foundation of what Bitcoin is.

482
00:28:04,554 --> 00:28:06,954
Don't trust, verify is skepticism.

483
00:28:07,501 --> 00:28:07,771
Yeah.

484
00:28:07,771 --> 00:28:11,731
And well, uh, I think, uh, I think another interesting thing here that

485
00:28:11,731 --> 00:28:16,711
you, that you include in the book at, at the time of writing, that the, the

486
00:28:16,711 --> 00:28:21,481
amount of work that goes into verifying each Bitcoin block, it was 18 zeros.

487
00:28:21,481 --> 00:28:23,221
This was back in 2019 though, right?

488
00:28:23,221 --> 00:28:24,961
It's, it's way more than that now.

489
00:28:25,201 --> 00:28:28,531
So it just keeps getting, it just keeps intensifying right.

490
00:28:29,521 --> 00:28:29,941
Yeah.

491
00:28:30,031 --> 00:28:35,131
And, uh, uh, and uh, I think that like the, the very core concepts of, of,

492
00:28:35,131 --> 00:28:42,211
uh, Bitcoin are here in, in this text, uh, that it's, it's expensive to try

493
00:28:42,211 --> 00:28:46,021
to cheat the system that's, that's at, it's more expensive to try to

494
00:28:46,021 --> 00:28:50,101
cheat it than to just follow the rules and that that's what makes it great.

495
00:28:51,346 --> 00:28:52,036
Shall we continue?

496
00:28:52,501 --> 00:28:53,161
Absolutely.

497
00:28:53,705 --> 00:28:54,275
Alright.

498
00:28:55,715 --> 00:29:00,215
The first law of thermodynamics, also known as the Law of Conservation of Energy

499
00:29:00,335 --> 00:29:04,055
states that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system.

500
00:29:04,775 --> 00:29:09,035
The second law states that the entropy of any isolated system always increases.

501
00:29:09,335 --> 00:29:13,355
And the third law states that the entropy of a system approaches a constant value as

502
00:29:13,355 --> 00:29:15,455
the temperature approaches absolute zero.

503
00:29:16,355 --> 00:29:20,195
In the Bitcoin network, participants known as miners compete for new Bitcoin

504
00:29:20,195 --> 00:29:22,535
in a lottery with very fixed rules.

505
00:29:23,465 --> 00:29:27,665
The more hashing power, computing power a miner contributes to the network,

506
00:29:27,755 --> 00:29:31,385
the higher his chances of winning the block reward a a specific amount of

507
00:29:31,385 --> 00:29:33,425
Bitcoin that is halved every four years.

508
00:29:34,295 --> 00:29:38,255
The difficulty of this lottery, in other words, the minor's chance of winning it

509
00:29:38,675 --> 00:29:44,015
is recalibrated every 2016 block so that the average time it takes to find the

510
00:29:44,015 --> 00:29:46,055
next block is always roughly 10 minutes.

511
00:29:47,075 --> 00:29:49,715
What the system produces is absolute scarcity.

512
00:29:50,075 --> 00:29:54,365
The amount of Bitcoin in existence at any moment in time is always predictable.

513
00:29:55,355 --> 00:29:59,225
The more time that passes, the slower the rate of coin issuance and the

514
00:29:59,225 --> 00:30:01,385
block rewards slowly approaches zero.

515
00:30:02,165 --> 00:30:06,845
By the time it does around the year 2140, the individual miner's incentive

516
00:30:06,845 --> 00:30:10,805
to mine for award will at least theoretically have been replaced by an

517
00:30:10,805 --> 00:30:14,375
incentive to collect transaction fees from the participants of the network.

518
00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:19,775
Even now, the sum of all fees make up a non-trivial part of the miner's revenue.

519
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:25,280
Yet from a user's point of view, the fees are still very low, and as the network

520
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,720
scales up using layer two solutions such as the Lightning Network, they're expected

521
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,420
to remain low for quite a long time ahead.

522
00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:36,920
So another connection of Bitcoin to physics, right?

523
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:36,980
I.

524
00:30:38,082 --> 00:30:38,372
Yeah.

525
00:30:38,552 --> 00:30:38,772
Um.

526
00:30:39,547 --> 00:30:43,597
Not, not directly tying it to physics here, uh, which is good.

527
00:30:43,687 --> 00:30:48,607
Uh, but yeah, uh, there, there's, there's a wonderful meme going around,

528
00:30:48,697 --> 00:30:50,977
uh, about, uh, it's a Venn diagram.

529
00:30:51,037 --> 00:30:55,164
Uh, and in one circle there's people who, who, who are against

530
00:30:55,374 --> 00:30:58,884
Bitcoin or Bitcoin's opponents.

531
00:30:59,184 --> 00:31:03,414
And on the, in the other circle are people who can, uh, accurately explain

532
00:31:03,414 --> 00:31:05,874
the difficulty, uh, adjustment algorithm.

533
00:31:06,234 --> 00:31:11,004
And in the middle, in the cross section are people who don't exist.

534
00:31:11,364 --> 00:31:16,614
Uh, be because you cannot, you cannot be against Bitcoin if, if it clicks for you

535
00:31:16,614 --> 00:31:22,014
the difficulty adjustment algorithm and how, how amazing, uh, a discovery that is.

536
00:31:23,074 --> 00:31:26,964
Uh, it maybe, it would be fair to say that the group of people in

537
00:31:26,964 --> 00:31:29,634
the middle are liars and con men.

538
00:31:30,431 --> 00:31:30,611
Yeah.

539
00:31:30,611 --> 00:31:33,851
But that means that they're either.

540
00:31:34,316 --> 00:31:37,976
They either are Bitcoin proponents that they just pretend to not be,

541
00:31:38,371 --> 00:31:42,896
or, or they simply don't understand the difficulty adjustment algorithm.

542
00:31:43,631 --> 00:31:44,856
Or they're fans of Ethereum?

543
00:31:45,236 --> 00:31:45,866
Yeah.

544
00:31:45,926 --> 00:31:46,346
Yeah.

545
00:31:46,766 --> 00:31:48,086
Uh, so, so yeah.

546
00:31:48,746 --> 00:31:51,656
So they are fans of Bitcoin then because the only purpose of

547
00:31:51,656 --> 00:31:55,496
Ethereum is to make the founders of Ethereum earn more Bitcoin,

548
00:31:56,201 --> 00:31:57,221
yes, there we go.

549
00:31:57,401 --> 00:31:58,961
That's, that's a, that's, yes.

550
00:31:58,961 --> 00:32:00,011
Very good point here.

551
00:32:00,281 --> 00:32:02,531
No, and, um, and I like the explanation here.

552
00:32:02,531 --> 00:32:07,271
This is just intensifying, like these first two chapters of this book.

553
00:32:07,271 --> 00:32:12,011
Just, just speaking, um, from the, the level of reading these both

554
00:32:12,011 --> 00:32:15,941
together, like someone reads this as the introduction to Bitcoin.

555
00:32:16,181 --> 00:32:19,421
I don't know exactly who's doing that, but you know, if you were,

556
00:32:19,661 --> 00:32:23,531
you're getting hit with, I. Big ideas right at, right off the bat.

557
00:32:23,921 --> 00:32:27,281
This, this isn't for the faint of heart, but, but they're big important

558
00:32:27,281 --> 00:32:31,991
ideas that, that really underpin what Bitcoin is and what Bitcoin is about.

559
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:35,921
And I, I never thought of sovereignty through mathematics as a, as a beginner

560
00:32:35,921 --> 00:32:40,931
book, but in a lot of ways it, it does explain a lot of the, the concepts that

561
00:32:40,931 --> 00:32:42,611
are important to know about Bitcoin.

562
00:32:42,611 --> 00:32:45,371
Just, just not in, in one of these structured ways that, that

563
00:32:45,731 --> 00:32:47,111
sort of handholds, you know?

564
00:32:47,861 --> 00:32:48,151
Yeah.

565
00:32:48,156 --> 00:32:54,206
No, I, I, I view it as a beginner's book, um, uh, as very, maybe a

566
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,916
very specific type of beginner.

567
00:32:55,916 --> 00:32:58,976
Uh, is there a, like you said, faint of heart there.

568
00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:00,926
Is there such a thing as faint of brain?

569
00:33:01,712 --> 00:33:02,372
Oh yeah.

570
00:33:02,432 --> 00:33:04,352
Uh, I know some people like that.

571
00:33:05,412 --> 00:33:06,707
Okay, good to know.

572
00:33:07,637 --> 00:33:08,747
Let's get on with it, shall we?

573
00:33:08,822 --> 00:33:09,092
Okay.

574
00:33:12,422 --> 00:33:16,502
Absolute scarcity is a concept that mankind has never encountered before.

575
00:33:17,312 --> 00:33:20,942
Arguably this makes it the first manmade concept to ever be directly

576
00:33:20,942 --> 00:33:22,532
linked to the laws of physics.

577
00:33:23,552 --> 00:33:26,702
Everything anyone does requires a certain amount of energy.

578
00:33:27,302 --> 00:33:31,262
The very word doing implies that some kind of movement, some type of

579
00:33:31,262 --> 00:33:33,512
energy expenditure needs to occur.

580
00:33:34,442 --> 00:33:37,772
As mentioned earlier, how we value things is entirely subjective.

581
00:33:38,432 --> 00:33:40,922
Different actions are of different value to different people.

582
00:33:41,972 --> 00:33:44,612
How we value different things is also inevitably linked to

583
00:33:44,612 --> 00:33:46,022
the supply of those things.

584
00:33:47,072 --> 00:33:50,912
Had the trapped under ice winter diver mentioned in chapter one, being equipped

585
00:33:50,912 --> 00:33:54,362
with a scuba tank, he probably wouldn't have thought of his next breath.

586
00:33:54,362 --> 00:33:58,652
As such a precious thing, the price, a person is willing to pay for a good.

587
00:33:59,072 --> 00:34:02,852
In other words, the sum of one or more person's actions can be

588
00:34:02,852 --> 00:34:04,802
derived from two basic variables.

589
00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:09,632
The highly objective demand for the good and the always constrained by time

590
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:11,882
and space supply of that same good.

591
00:34:12,872 --> 00:34:16,352
Note that if supply is sufficiently limited, there only needs to be

592
00:34:16,352 --> 00:34:20,222
a minimal amount of demand for a good for its price to increase.

593
00:34:21,842 --> 00:34:25,652
One could argue that no one needs Bitcoin and that therefore Bitcoin

594
00:34:25,652 --> 00:34:27,272
would have no intrinsic value.

595
00:34:27,992 --> 00:34:31,052
One could also argue that there's no such thing as intrinsic value.

596
00:34:31,052 --> 00:34:32,702
Since demand is always subjective.

597
00:34:33,512 --> 00:34:38,942
In any case, there will always be a cost to mine Bitcoin, and the more mining power

598
00:34:38,942 --> 00:34:41,042
in the network, the higher that cost.

599
00:34:41,972 --> 00:34:46,952
This cost insured by the Bitcoin network's proof of work algorithm is probably

600
00:34:46,952 --> 00:34:51,542
as close to a pure energy cost as the price of a human activity will ever get.

601
00:34:52,832 --> 00:34:56,372
Once the mining rig is in place, a simple conversion process follows

602
00:34:57,182 --> 00:34:59,372
energy in scarce token out.

603
00:35:00,152 --> 00:35:03,872
Should the cost of production exceed the current price of the token, the miner can

604
00:35:03,872 --> 00:35:07,982
just choose not to sell, thereby limiting the supply of Bitcoin and circulation

605
00:35:07,982 --> 00:35:11,282
even more, and eventually selling them for other goods whenever he sees fit.

606
00:35:12,377 --> 00:35:17,297
In this sense, Bitcoin is a battery, perhaps the best battery ever invented.

607
00:35:18,497 --> 00:35:21,527
Now I know you have some things to say about this section.

608
00:35:21,984 --> 00:35:22,284
Yes.

609
00:35:22,284 --> 00:35:25,914
This is about how every action requires energy.

610
00:35:25,914 --> 00:35:30,594
So, so it's, it's sort of about how physics and, uh, uh, the, the.

611
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,929
Objectiveness of physics and the subjectiveness of

612
00:35:34,929 --> 00:35:36,369
ology are linked together.

613
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,859
Like we, we, we link the two realms.

614
00:35:39,099 --> 00:35:43,749
Uh, I mean, I believe that the dichotomy of subjective, uh, objective

615
00:35:43,749 --> 00:35:47,199
is somewhat false, but we're, we're not going there just yet.

616
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,109
That comes in clown world way next year.

617
00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:54,699
So, but, but the thing that links the two worlds, so that bridges

618
00:35:54,699 --> 00:35:56,469
the two worlds is human action.

619
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:01,239
And, uh, in Bitcoin, this is, this is very clear.

620
00:36:01,299 --> 00:36:03,249
What, what, what, what's going on?

621
00:36:03,249 --> 00:36:07,749
You're, you're sacrificing a very specific amount of actual energy.

622
00:36:07,869 --> 00:36:15,219
Duals even, uh, for a, a slice of the world's, uh, only

623
00:36:15,219 --> 00:36:17,589
digital pie, like the only.

624
00:36:18,204 --> 00:36:21,564
I, I, I use the word absolute scarcity here.

625
00:36:21,624 --> 00:36:22,344
Uh, a lot.

626
00:36:22,794 --> 00:36:26,484
If I'd written this book today, I would say that Bitcoin are not absolutely

627
00:36:26,484 --> 00:36:28,494
scarce, but absolutely finite.

628
00:36:28,944 --> 00:36:32,544
Uh, scarcity is always, uh, contextual.

629
00:36:32,544 --> 00:36:39,744
So like, uh, it's, it's not, uh, as it's not describing Bitcoin as well, I think,

630
00:36:39,744 --> 00:36:41,604
so they're, they're not absolutely scarce.

631
00:36:41,664 --> 00:36:42,744
Well, they are too.

632
00:36:42,774 --> 00:36:46,464
But first and foremost, there's absolutely finite, which is what

633
00:36:46,464 --> 00:36:49,884
creates the absolute scarcity afterwards or the scarcity of them.

634
00:36:50,424 --> 00:36:52,404
Uh, scarcity is not absolute.

635
00:36:52,404 --> 00:36:54,624
It's always, it always fluctuates.

636
00:36:54,684 --> 00:36:58,524
Uh, and it's always in the eye of the beholder, which finiteness is not, I would

637
00:36:58,524 --> 00:37:04,314
say scarcity is, is scarcity, is, uh, subjective, somewhat subjective, while,

638
00:37:04,314 --> 00:37:07,734
uh, being finite is something objective.

639
00:37:08,664 --> 00:37:13,434
So, so it's still, uh, this hearkens back a lot to the, the, the last chapter

640
00:37:13,644 --> 00:37:15,654
because this is all, all about the.

641
00:37:16,929 --> 00:37:21,219
Uh, demand being subjective and, uh, supply being objective.

642
00:37:21,249 --> 00:37:25,059
How, how this, uh, how it links the objective and the subjective.

643
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:30,119
and I think that's very, a crucial thing to understand when trying to understand

644
00:37:30,149 --> 00:37:31,344
Bitcoin and the problem it solves.

645
00:37:31,824 --> 00:37:31,944
I.

646
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,663
Absolutely agree and well, you know, I think, I think I'm still

647
00:37:35,663 --> 00:37:40,433
more of a proponent of the battery analogy than, than you are here now.

648
00:37:41,453 --> 00:37:43,793
Uh, but I, but I still think it's, it's useful.

649
00:37:43,823 --> 00:37:48,211
It's, it's a really useful, analogy here because, because the, the idea

650
00:37:48,211 --> 00:37:53,549
that a miner, a bitcoin miner can expend energy and get Bitcoin back

651
00:37:53,819 --> 00:37:58,503
anywhere in the world, thereby, being able to capture stranded.

652
00:37:58,878 --> 00:38:04,398
Energy sources or, uh, more difficult to, to access, but, but maybe not as

653
00:38:04,398 --> 00:38:06,348
expensive to access something like that.

654
00:38:06,773 --> 00:38:10,998
It, it is a way of, of taking energy from somewhere and converting it

655
00:38:10,998 --> 00:38:14,838
into something that can be then sold for other goods and services.

656
00:38:14,838 --> 00:38:17,388
So the battery analogy, it's not, it's not a literal battery,

657
00:38:17,388 --> 00:38:20,388
it's not a literal battery in the sense of an electrical battery.

658
00:38:20,688 --> 00:38:27,078
It's not a way of taking that energy and storing that energy for further

659
00:38:27,078 --> 00:38:32,118
use in the literal energy sense, the physical movement of something.

660
00:38:32,448 --> 00:38:38,381
But it is it is, it is a battery for battery for well in the sense that, that

661
00:38:38,381 --> 00:38:40,151
you, you can hold some of that value.

662
00:38:40,271 --> 00:38:46,181
You can capture that value and move it over the internet and use it later.

663
00:38:46,481 --> 00:38:49,121
So in that sense, I think the battery analogy still works.

664
00:38:50,511 --> 00:38:51,086
It's it.

665
00:38:52,421 --> 00:38:57,071
If you will, subjective energy, uh, which is a very weird term, and it's

666
00:38:57,071 --> 00:39:01,451
like, so, so the physics nerd in me prevents me from, from using the term,

667
00:39:01,511 --> 00:39:03,551
uh, like using the analogy anymore.

668
00:39:03,551 --> 00:39:07,571
I, I, I'm not a super fan of it, but not only because it doesn't link to

669
00:39:07,571 --> 00:39:12,341
physics, but because it's sort of under appreciates Bitcoin because more

670
00:39:12,341 --> 00:39:14,111
than it's, it's more than a battery.

671
00:39:14,111 --> 00:39:19,211
It's an amplifier too, because as long as the total economic pie grows over time,

672
00:39:19,661 --> 00:39:25,661
the, the, the energy store stored or the value stored, it's not only staying

673
00:39:25,661 --> 00:39:28,451
the same, but, but growing over time.

674
00:39:28,511 --> 00:39:31,211
So it buys you more the, the longer you wait.

675
00:39:31,641 --> 00:39:35,249
and uh, another part of not using the, uh, um.

676
00:39:35,834 --> 00:39:41,084
Digi the Bitcoin is a battery analogy anymore, is that I don't like the

677
00:39:41,084 --> 00:39:46,244
term digital energy because I, I think digital to begin with, uh,

678
00:39:46,244 --> 00:39:48,944
is not anything crucial to Bitcoin.

679
00:39:48,974 --> 00:39:51,914
It, whether it's digital or not, doesn't really matter.

680
00:39:52,421 --> 00:39:59,651
and the energy metaphor omits that a Bitcoin miner is not the asic that

681
00:39:59,651 --> 00:40:03,131
some, uh, that is plugged into the wall or the hangar full of them.

682
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,961
It, uh, the computers involved.

683
00:40:04,961 --> 00:40:09,431
It is the, the, the actual miner is the guy who owns the asics and decides

684
00:40:09,431 --> 00:40:14,291
to run the, the code, uh, which we explain further in, in clown world too.

685
00:40:14,921 --> 00:40:21,371
Uh, so, so I think all, almost all metaphors and analogies in Bitcoin are

686
00:40:21,401 --> 00:40:26,981
somewhat, uh, insufficient to describe what Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is so

687
00:40:26,981 --> 00:40:31,661
much more than the sum of its parts and it's very hard to isolate one or.

688
00:40:32,396 --> 00:40:37,586
One thing or another that it is when it's, when it's so much bigger, uh, than that.

689
00:40:37,586 --> 00:40:43,466
So, so, so every, every single metaphor is underwhelming or insufficient in some way.

690
00:40:44,746 --> 00:40:45,341
I can agree with.

691
00:40:45,551 --> 00:40:50,291
That on the one hand, while on the other saying that each of these metaphors is

692
00:40:50,291 --> 00:40:53,321
a way to maybe get into someone's brain

693
00:40:53,981 --> 00:40:54,201
Yep.

694
00:40:54,491 --> 00:40:57,521
and, and it only takes one, right?

695
00:40:57,581 --> 00:41:01,031
I think that's, that's one of the points of Bitcoin is that once, once one thing

696
00:41:01,031 --> 00:41:05,801
clicks for you, you suddenly discover all the things and then everything clicks.

697
00:41:05,861 --> 00:41:10,211
You take the orange pill and suddenly you are a toxic Bitcoin maxi.

698
00:41:10,661 --> 00:41:11,381
Something like that.

699
00:41:12,011 --> 00:41:19,181
Uh, so, so the battery analogy is useful, uh, uh, in, in that sense as, as being a,

700
00:41:19,181 --> 00:41:23,531
a way of propagating an idea that might take hold with some people, especially

701
00:41:23,531 --> 00:41:29,951
those that value, or, or actually, especially with those who think that

702
00:41:30,101 --> 00:41:33,971
Bitcoin mining is this evil thing and don't understand what it's actually doing.

703
00:41:34,331 --> 00:41:38,201
And the, the real world effects that I really, really doubt that Satoshi could

704
00:41:38,201 --> 00:41:40,511
have ever envisioned for, for bitcoin.

705
00:41:41,211 --> 00:41:45,381
the effects that, that bitcoin mining, chasing down all of the, the cheapest

706
00:41:45,381 --> 00:41:47,691
energy in the world actually have.

707
00:41:48,459 --> 00:41:49,959
No, he probably didn't predict that.

708
00:41:50,169 --> 00:41:54,609
Like, uh, one thing I thought of now when you're talking about that it

709
00:41:54,609 --> 00:41:56,829
might have a usefulness, is that.

710
00:41:57,219 --> 00:41:59,199
That's akin to the religious stories, right?

711
00:41:59,409 --> 00:42:03,999
So, so this is, uh, Bitcoin as a battery is, might not be literally

712
00:42:03,999 --> 00:42:07,509
true, but it might have some, some, uh, storytelling value.

713
00:42:07,509 --> 00:42:11,499
Just as you know, the meek shall inherit the earth or, or some religious

714
00:42:11,799 --> 00:42:15,849
thing, uh, that you can interpret in a way that has value to you.

715
00:42:16,149 --> 00:42:20,439
And that's how I view, uh, metaphors for what Bitcoin is

716
00:42:20,439 --> 00:42:22,599
in as one aspect or another.

717
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:24,339
I love it.

718
00:42:24,399 --> 00:42:24,909
I love it.

719
00:42:25,059 --> 00:42:30,879
I think we will touch more on mining plenty, uh, over the series.

720
00:42:30,879 --> 00:42:36,249
There's gonna be way more on that, but, uh, it, it's an important area and, and.

721
00:42:36,954 --> 00:42:40,284
A lot of the opposition to Bitcoin that is, that is really hung up on

722
00:42:40,284 --> 00:42:44,064
that, that bitcoin mining uses more energy than Norway or something.

723
00:42:44,184 --> 00:42:50,514
Uh, those, those arguments are unfortunate and, and probably are holding back some

724
00:42:50,514 --> 00:42:52,644
people from taking a close look at it.

725
00:42:52,644 --> 00:42:59,064
And so I it, in, in one sense, I really do think it's important for us to f bust to,

726
00:42:59,064 --> 00:43:01,974
to really directly take out those ideas.

727
00:43:01,974 --> 00:43:07,644
And so, um, discussions of mining and, and, uh, even things like talking

728
00:43:07,644 --> 00:43:10,764
about it like a, like a battery, I, I think are important for those reasons.

729
00:43:11,439 --> 00:43:11,729
Yeah.

730
00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:17,424
And, uh, there, there is at least one chapter about environmentalism in,

731
00:43:17,484 --> 00:43:19,734
in each and every one of these books.

732
00:43:19,794 --> 00:43:22,824
A about, uh, FD busting the energy.

733
00:43:23,304 --> 00:43:24,054
Uh, stuff.

734
00:43:24,234 --> 00:43:28,601
So, yeah, and like I can just throw out the little thought

735
00:43:28,601 --> 00:43:32,771
nugget here that is also going to, uh, come back in this series.

736
00:43:32,771 --> 00:43:35,531
And that is that miners do not create bitcoins.

737
00:43:35,861 --> 00:43:41,196
They get paid in Bitcoins by the users of the network that actually create the

738
00:43:41,351 --> 00:43:47,621
Bitcoins Miners, uh, create blocks and they create block space by finding blocks.

739
00:43:48,161 --> 00:43:54,431
And they, we allow them to, uh, make a Coinbase transaction to themselves,

740
00:43:54,431 --> 00:43:56,171
thereby getting newly into Bitcoin.

741
00:43:56,531 --> 00:44:00,491
But it's not them that, uh, they are the slaves of the users or

742
00:44:00,736 --> 00:44:04,721
the, the no runners and the, the economic incentives of the network.

743
00:44:04,721 --> 00:44:07,001
They are not the ones creating the Bitcoins.

744
00:44:07,566 --> 00:44:09,011
Now this stuff is important.

745
00:44:09,101 --> 00:44:12,371
This stuff is definitely important, and two things can be true at the same time.

746
00:44:12,371 --> 00:44:15,881
Here again, uh, one, it can be true that these metaphors are

747
00:44:15,881 --> 00:44:18,131
useful for people to understand it.

748
00:44:18,136 --> 00:44:22,211
But the other thing too, I think, and I, and I think, I think every.

749
00:44:22,211 --> 00:44:23,171
Thing that we dig into.

750
00:44:23,171 --> 00:44:26,861
And that the reason for going all the way down to, uh, the root and

751
00:44:26,861 --> 00:44:30,461
really finding what's true about things is that it's also important

752
00:44:30,461 --> 00:44:32,471
to know what is actually the case.

753
00:44:33,011 --> 00:44:36,761
And, uh, and, and I, I think it's, it's always, it's always good to,

754
00:44:36,851 --> 00:44:40,691
to be precise and to understand what's actually going on here.

755
00:44:41,201 --> 00:44:46,661
Use these metaphors as ways of explaining to your normie friends what happens

756
00:44:46,661 --> 00:44:50,171
with Bitcoin, but, but understand what's really happening at the core.

757
00:44:50,501 --> 00:44:51,251
That's important.

758
00:44:51,251 --> 00:44:56,231
And yeah, I, I think we, we strive for both those things in some kind of balance.

759
00:44:56,231 --> 00:44:56,291
I.

760
00:44:57,026 --> 00:44:57,596
Absolutely.

761
00:44:57,686 --> 00:45:02,366
I mean the, the books about Bitcoin I've written were easier to write in the sense

762
00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:06,426
that  I could throw words around more than I could when I wrote the ology book,

763
00:45:06,456 --> 00:45:10,896
because in ology when writing about that subject, you need to be super precise.

764
00:45:11,196 --> 00:45:15,726
Every word needs to be 100% defined and used only in the

765
00:45:15,726 --> 00:45:20,196
context that it was like in the way that it was supposed to be used.

766
00:45:20,586 --> 00:45:25,566
Uh, here I can say things like Bitcoin is a battery and stuff more easily.

767
00:45:25,566 --> 00:45:30,049
So the the, it makes these books maybe not as precise, but it

768
00:45:30,049 --> 00:45:32,209
makes them more colorful, I think.

769
00:45:32,209 --> 00:45:36,889
And, uh, maybe that's, uh, can orange pill a person or two if it just, if

770
00:45:36,889 --> 00:45:41,629
my books only orange pill one person I'm, I, I still view them as a success.

771
00:45:42,388 --> 00:45:42,878
Perfect.

772
00:45:42,908 --> 00:45:46,303
I'm, I'm sure they have orange peel more than one person, but

773
00:45:46,313 --> 00:45:49,123
let's, let's keep going, shall we?

774
00:45:51,907 --> 00:45:54,547
Storing and moving electrical energy around has always

775
00:45:54,547 --> 00:45:55,987
been costly and wasteful.

776
00:45:56,677 --> 00:46:00,847
Bitcoin offers a way of converting energy into a small part of a specific number,

777
00:46:01,357 --> 00:46:03,397
a mathematical battery, if you will.

778
00:46:04,290 --> 00:46:06,900
It is important to remember that it does not convert energy

779
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:11,130
into value directly, but rather electricity into digital scarcity.

780
00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:14,490
Digital scarcity that can be used to express value.

781
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:19,120
Energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system as the first

782
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,130
law of thermodynamics clearly states.

783
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,240
Bitcoin can express how much energy was sacrificed in order to

784
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,190
acquire a share of the total sum.

785
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,970
You can also acquire Bitcoin by buying it rather than mining it.

786
00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:33,340
But in doing so, you also spend energy.

787
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,578
You somehow acquired the money with which you bought the Bitcoin, You or someone

788
00:46:38,578 --> 00:46:41,338
else sacrificed time and energy somewhere.

789
00:46:42,088 --> 00:46:45,928
Bitcoin lets you express that you see that there's a connection between value

790
00:46:45,928 --> 00:46:50,548
and scarcity by letting you sacrifice effort to claim a part of the total sum.

791
00:46:51,709 --> 00:46:55,399
I thought when I started reading this paragraph that, that maybe we had already

792
00:46:55,909 --> 00:46:59,959
kind of covered the, the point of it, but, but no, I, I think the, the actual point

793
00:46:59,959 --> 00:47:04,969
of this section that, that you always expend energy somehow to get the Bitcoin.

794
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,079
That's, that's, that's a different nuance than what we were talking

795
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:10,669
about and an important one.

796
00:47:12,364 --> 00:47:12,424
Yeah.

797
00:47:12,424 --> 00:47:13,894
Uh, and it's absolutely true.

798
00:47:13,924 --> 00:47:17,884
Like you have to expend some kind of energy to get something back.

799
00:47:17,884 --> 00:47:20,764
Like this is a, this is a completely voluntary system.

800
00:47:20,764 --> 00:47:23,734
You can't just threaten someone and say, give me all your money.

801
00:47:23,734 --> 00:47:24,934
Like, uh, that.

802
00:47:25,429 --> 00:47:29,479
You need to provide something of value to the other person, whether

803
00:47:29,479 --> 00:47:33,709
that is mining or providing a good service, that's another discussion.

804
00:47:33,949 --> 00:47:35,509
But this is the point of the system.

805
00:47:35,509 --> 00:47:41,359
It's like an isolated system where, uh, people have to provide something

806
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:47,809
that the other person values in order to get a part of, of this finite pie,

807
00:47:48,379 --> 00:47:49,729
and that's what makes it so beautiful.

808
00:47:50,729 --> 00:47:50,909
Yeah.

809
00:47:50,909 --> 00:47:54,809
And, and this was one thing that just didn't click for me earlier

810
00:47:54,809 --> 00:47:59,249
on in my crypto journey, so to say, like, I, I didn't really understand

811
00:47:59,249 --> 00:48:02,999
what was the purpose of, of proof of work mining kind of generally.

812
00:48:03,446 --> 00:48:06,566
uh, and the, the proof of stake stuff, those, those, those folks were

813
00:48:06,566 --> 00:48:09,836
making like really serious arguments, especially back when Ethereum was

814
00:48:09,836 --> 00:48:11,336
thinking of dropping the proof of work.

815
00:48:11,816 --> 00:48:12,086
Um.

816
00:48:14,401 --> 00:48:18,181
Understanding things like this, that, that no matter what you do, you, you

817
00:48:18,181 --> 00:48:20,221
always are expending energy somehow.

818
00:48:20,551 --> 00:48:24,001
Uh, I think somehow that what that did was, was get it so that

819
00:48:24,241 --> 00:48:27,421
the mining isn't actually doing anything different than anyone else.

820
00:48:27,481 --> 00:48:30,331
They're, they're performing the function for the network, like we talked about

821
00:48:30,331 --> 00:48:32,371
earlier, the, the, the block creation.

822
00:48:32,371 --> 00:48:36,841
But no matter what, someone is performing energy somewhere, uh, or

823
00:48:36,991 --> 00:48:42,871
maybe a even better way of describing it is someone is doing something of

824
00:48:42,871 --> 00:48:47,971
value to someone else to get a nice token in exchange for that value.

825
00:48:48,361 --> 00:48:50,431
It just, it all comes, it all comes back.

826
00:48:50,851 --> 00:48:54,511
Uh, everyone is doing something in order to get these value

827
00:48:54,511 --> 00:48:56,191
tokens that we call money.

828
00:48:56,371 --> 00:48:57,631
And Bitcoin is no different.

829
00:48:57,631 --> 00:49:01,291
It's just, uh, it is just perfectly finite.

830
00:49:01,831 --> 00:49:06,931
So I, I don't know, uh, the, the overall point is the un understanding.

831
00:49:06,931 --> 00:49:10,111
This one, I, I think this one was really quite important to

832
00:49:10,891 --> 00:49:13,261
grok what Bitcoin actually is.

833
00:49:14,541 --> 00:49:19,186
And, uh, uh, it also highlights why proof of stake, like we're

834
00:49:19,186 --> 00:49:20,356
living in proof of stake.

835
00:49:20,356 --> 00:49:23,953
Now, the Federal Reserve is a proof of stake system.

836
00:49:24,472 --> 00:49:28,822
the, the, the ones with the biggest piles of cash, uh, can afford the

837
00:49:28,822 --> 00:49:32,752
biggest guns and therefore set the rules for everyone else in the system.

838
00:49:32,752 --> 00:49:36,412
And, and if they have a money printer, they, they win that race.

839
00:49:36,502 --> 00:49:39,802
And, uh, especially if the, the world's reserve currency.

840
00:49:40,012 --> 00:49:41,332
So, uh.

841
00:49:42,037 --> 00:49:47,377
Proof of proof of work is so different and Bitcoin in particular because you

842
00:49:47,377 --> 00:49:50,917
can't just copy proof of work, then that sort of takes away the point

843
00:49:50,917 --> 00:49:56,197
of proof of work, uh, in that, uh, this is the, the costliness thing.

844
00:49:56,197 --> 00:49:58,357
So it's, it's sort of you.

845
00:49:58,822 --> 00:49:59,332
Computer.

846
00:49:59,362 --> 00:50:03,532
Up until 2009, computers had been used for copying stuff.

847
00:50:03,802 --> 00:50:06,652
Everything on a computer is a copy of a copy of a copy.

848
00:50:06,652 --> 00:50:10,702
Like when you send an email, you, you don't actually send it, you copy the

849
00:50:10,702 --> 00:50:12,712
data and put it on the other computer.

850
00:50:12,952 --> 00:50:18,352
Like, so, so everything, uh, is a copy and we can flip that on its head.

851
00:50:18,352 --> 00:50:23,902
Like, how can we use computers to, to, to create something that cannot be copied?

852
00:50:24,082 --> 00:50:28,462
And it's by flipping the script completely and expanding as much

853
00:50:28,462 --> 00:50:32,662
computing power as possible rather than as little computing power as possible,

854
00:50:32,662 --> 00:50:38,482
which is true for all, like, which is what programmers strive to do, uh,

855
00:50:38,482 --> 00:50:40,702
in every other aspect of computing.

856
00:50:40,912 --> 00:50:44,572
But this is just like, you just flip that on its head and you get

857
00:50:44,572 --> 00:50:46,012
something that you cannot copy.

858
00:50:46,372 --> 00:50:48,052
And uh, yeah, I just love that I.

859
00:50:48,912 --> 00:50:50,607
Uh, love it too.

860
00:50:51,027 --> 00:50:55,527
All of this stuff, uh, all of this intricacies of mining and why it works.

861
00:50:55,527 --> 00:50:57,777
Stuff super fascinating.

862
00:50:57,867 --> 00:51:00,927
Uh, not a tangent exactly.

863
00:51:00,927 --> 00:51:03,657
'cause I don't think we'll spend much time on it, but I, I really enjoyed,

864
00:51:03,657 --> 00:51:07,107
uh, uh, when we visited Slovenia, the, the Nice hash conference and got

865
00:51:07,107 --> 00:51:11,577
to have lots of good conversations about the, the mining stuff and deepen

866
00:51:11,607 --> 00:51:16,407
our, uh, understanding of, of that side of things always interesting.

867
00:51:17,222 --> 00:51:18,217
Yeah, super interesting.

868
00:51:19,317 --> 00:51:20,217
Okay, let's continue.

869
00:51:21,770 --> 00:51:26,510
The excitement we so-called Bitcoin Maximalist feel about Bitcoin does not

870
00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:30,770
come primarily from the enormous gains that those who hopped early onto the

871
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:32,630
freight train have been blessed with.

872
00:51:33,410 --> 00:51:36,650
Nor is it because we're in it for the technology as can

873
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:38,150
often be heard from opponents.

874
00:51:39,050 --> 00:51:42,950
Those of us who preach the near divinity of this invention do so above all,

875
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:46,940
because we see the philosophical impacts of absolute scarcity in a commodity,

876
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:51,260
the idea of a functioning solution to the double spending problem in

877
00:51:51,260 --> 00:51:55,940
computerized money is an achievement that simply can't be ignored by

878
00:51:55,940 --> 00:51:57,620
solving the double spending problem.

879
00:51:57,650 --> 00:52:02,180
Satoshi also made counterfeiting impossible, which in turn makes

880
00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:03,800
artificial inflation impossible.

881
00:52:04,610 --> 00:52:07,190
The world changing potential of this invention cannot be

882
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:09,350
understated, not in the long run.

883
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:14,240
The more you think about it, the more the thought won't give you any peace of mind.

884
00:52:14,990 --> 00:52:19,730
If this experiment works, if it's real, it will take civilization to the next level.

885
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,790
What we don't know is how long this will take.

886
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,350
Right now, debates in the Bitcoin space are about Bitcoin's functionality

887
00:52:27,350 --> 00:52:31,280
as a medium of exchange and its potential as a good store of value.

888
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:36,710
We might be missing the point we cannot possibly know if a type of monetary

889
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:40,970
token for which you're completely responsible with no third party protection

890
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:44,900
will ever become a preferred medium of exchange for most transactions.

891
00:52:45,710 --> 00:52:49,310
Nor can we know if the price of Bitcoin will follow the hype cycle path that

892
00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:52,370
we all want it to follow, so that it can become the store of value that

893
00:52:52,370 --> 00:52:55,130
most maximalist claim It already is.

894
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,150
we've been focused on the wrong things all along.

895
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,700
Maybe Bitcoin's greatest strength is in its functionality as a unit of account.

896
00:53:05,450 --> 00:53:08,180
After all, this is all that Bitcoin does.

897
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:13,010
If you own 21 Bitcoin, you own 1000000th of the world's first

898
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,960
absolutely scarce commodity.

899
00:53:16,070 --> 00:53:19,520
This might not make you rich overnight, but it just might have something to

900
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,050
do with the opportunities available to your great-great-grandchildren.

901
00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:33,410
Yeah, this, uh, I used the word divinity here in the beginning and it makes

902
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:38,810
me think of like how, how all these wonderful paradoxes, gigge made a talk

903
00:53:38,810 --> 00:53:44,990
about this once, uh, like how Bitcoin is, uh, fuck you money and love at the same

904
00:53:44,990 --> 00:53:50,480
time, and how Bitcoin is, uh, financial atheism and a religion at the same time.

905
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:56,810
And I, I. This is one thing, one thing I've thought about in, in terms of like

906
00:53:56,810 --> 00:54:01,760
religious stuff and, and Bitcoin is, uh, Pascal's wager, which says that

907
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,720
you might as well the, the, the TLDR on Pascal's wager is that you might

908
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:10,460
as well believe in God because, uh, if you do, you may go to heaven and if,

909
00:54:10,490 --> 00:54:12,830
if you don't, you, you can go to hell.

910
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:17,120
Uh, the, the problem that I have with Pascal's wager as a concept is

911
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,620
that it, it, it simply doesn't take any of the other 5,000 religions out

912
00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:23,960
there into, uh, into account at all.

913
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:28,940
But with Bitcoin, Pascal's wager, AC actually works because if you believe in

914
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:35,090
Bitcoin and if you devote your life to the God that is Bitcoin, you actually make.

915
00:54:35,610 --> 00:54:40,050
Uh, the likelihood of this coming true and this, this utopia here

916
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:42,060
on earth be, uh, is closer.

917
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,470
The more, the more in in time, the more you believe in, in the

918
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:49,560
concepts, uh, and the more, the more you devote your life to it.

919
00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:54,360
So Pascal's wager works, but only if by God you actually mean Bitcoin coin.

920
00:54:55,286 --> 00:54:55,916
It's so funny.

921
00:54:55,916 --> 00:55:01,616
It's, it's, it's such a, uh, it's so funny that the wager actually works like that.

922
00:55:01,766 --> 00:55:06,536
And I mean, it isn't something that people are necessarily going

923
00:55:06,536 --> 00:55:09,266
to take up, uh, automatically.

924
00:55:09,266 --> 00:55:12,476
And, and actually maybe this pascal's wager framing is

925
00:55:12,476 --> 00:55:18,386
actually going to make some people viscerally oppose that somehow, uh.

926
00:55:18,941 --> 00:55:23,831
But, but I think it's a, it's a good, uh, a good analogy that, that, uh,

927
00:55:23,951 --> 00:55:28,541
if this is going to work, it's either gonna go to an infinity or to zero,

928
00:55:28,541 --> 00:55:32,711
basically, uh, being on the side of getting some piece of that pie.

929
00:55:32,711 --> 00:55:39,341
And again, this comes back to the, the absolute finite pie of what Bitcoin is.

930
00:55:39,671 --> 00:55:43,541
There's, there's so many layers to this, but, but really that's the

931
00:55:43,541 --> 00:55:46,331
core of what did it for me once I understood well, I mean, okay, what

932
00:55:47,171 --> 00:55:51,641
really did it for me was, I, I got that there's no inflation to Bitcoin now.

933
00:55:51,821 --> 00:55:52,151
Okay.

934
00:55:53,051 --> 00:55:58,331
Ignoring that it's still technically inflating until 2140, but it, it's,

935
00:55:58,361 --> 00:56:03,131
it's not though, like I, I, I got immediately that it's 21 million of

936
00:56:03,131 --> 00:56:07,811
these things and you get a certain amount of that, that's, you've got

937
00:56:07,811 --> 00:56:11,261
that piece of that pie forever, right?

938
00:56:11,291 --> 00:56:15,491
As long as you can maintain control of your keys, which isn't trivial,

939
00:56:15,491 --> 00:56:17,501
but, okay, let's pretend it's trivial.

940
00:56:18,131 --> 00:56:22,241
But that one thing means there's a, there's now a fixed denominator.

941
00:56:22,241 --> 00:56:24,401
You can put a fixed denominator on the economy.

942
00:56:24,401 --> 00:56:26,651
That's the unit of account part, basically.

943
00:56:27,101 --> 00:56:32,831
And if you do that, GDP growth is literally, should mean that

944
00:56:32,831 --> 00:56:34,901
prices are, are deflating.

945
00:56:34,931 --> 00:56:37,481
It's just that the, the denominator keeps increasing.

946
00:56:37,721 --> 00:56:42,521
At the same time also, this constant, this constant chasing of GDP growth

947
00:56:42,791 --> 00:56:48,761
is actually saying that, that, uh, there is more in the pie as a whole.

948
00:56:48,911 --> 00:56:50,441
And so prices should be deflating.

949
00:56:50,441 --> 00:56:52,031
It's the Jeff Booth hypothesis.

950
00:56:52,391 --> 00:56:56,111
Uh, which, which we have talked about how you also have similar,

951
00:56:56,561 --> 00:57:00,131
um, takes on, on this, I think later coming up in this book.

952
00:57:00,131 --> 00:57:00,341
Right.

953
00:57:00,341 --> 00:57:01,571
We'll, we'll touch on this more.

954
00:57:01,916 --> 00:57:02,366
Yeah.

955
00:57:02,366 --> 00:57:05,606
And, uh, uh, especially in the next book, independence Reimagined.

956
00:57:05,606 --> 00:57:07,256
That's is, that's is all about that.

957
00:57:07,706 --> 00:57:10,886
So, so I have a couple of other things to say about these two paragraphs

958
00:57:10,886 --> 00:57:12,356
and, and this book in general.

959
00:57:12,356 --> 00:57:17,846
I, all of my books, like the primary reason or what I want the reader

960
00:57:17,846 --> 00:57:21,716
to take away from them is just, I want, I want them to trigger a

961
00:57:21,716 --> 00:57:23,156
thought in the brain of the reader.

962
00:57:23,486 --> 00:57:27,446
So, so they're not like, I'm not advocating for one

963
00:57:27,446 --> 00:57:29,096
thing or another, really.

964
00:57:29,306 --> 00:57:31,736
Uh, these are meant to be thought nuggets.

965
00:57:31,736 --> 00:57:34,826
That's the, the Pascal's wager thing is a brain fart.

966
00:57:34,976 --> 00:57:41,606
Everything else in here is sort of brain farts that are, and if, if, if you,

967
00:57:41,666 --> 00:57:45,956
uh, happen to sniff on a particular part of your, uh, of your liking,

968
00:57:46,196 --> 00:57:48,266
then uh, I have succeeded like that.

969
00:57:48,326 --> 00:57:48,926
You, you.

970
00:57:49,841 --> 00:57:52,901
That is, that is what the books are, are all about.

971
00:57:53,321 --> 00:57:57,581
Uh, another thing to mention about these, these two paragraphs in particular is the

972
00:57:57,581 --> 00:57:59,921
word bitcoin Maximalist, which is a dero.

973
00:58:01,721 --> 00:58:05,416
It was intended as a derogatory term and invented by Vitalic

974
00:58:05,421 --> 00:58:07,451
Butrin, the creator of Ethereum.

975
00:58:07,991 --> 00:58:11,261
To, to sort of, yeah, to promote his shit coin basically.

976
00:58:11,261 --> 00:58:15,611
And, and tell every Bitcoin believer who didn't also want a Ethereum, that

977
00:58:15,611 --> 00:58:18,281
they were not open-minded enough.

978
00:58:18,971 --> 00:58:22,631
But as Terry PR said, the problem with an open mind is that people

979
00:58:22,631 --> 00:58:26,081
would come along and try to put stuff in it, stuff like Ethereum.

980
00:58:26,351 --> 00:58:31,271
So, uh, uh, well, the Bitcoin, the Bitcoiners took the term to heart

981
00:58:31,361 --> 00:58:34,661
and, uh, uh, wore it as, uh, as armor.

982
00:58:34,661 --> 00:58:35,111
Instead.

983
00:58:35,111 --> 00:58:39,101
We are proud Bitcoin maximalist, the whole point of Bitcoin is

984
00:58:39,101 --> 00:58:41,051
that there can be only one.

985
00:58:41,051 --> 00:58:42,461
It's uh, Highlander money.

986
00:58:43,281 --> 00:58:44,126
No, absolutely.

987
00:58:44,126 --> 00:58:51,206
And, uh, yeah, as funny as the term is the, the origins of the

988
00:58:51,206 --> 00:58:53,936
term Bitcoin maximalist, it, it's not just a badge of honor.

989
00:58:53,936 --> 00:58:57,296
It's, it's an actual correct term, I think.

990
00:58:57,296 --> 00:59:01,316
And, and it's, it's important to say that, yeah, you, you, I don't

991
00:59:01,316 --> 00:59:03,926
think you can really be a Bitcoin or if you advocate that other

992
00:59:04,556 --> 00:59:06,296
cryptocurrencies, shit coins are.

993
00:59:07,376 --> 00:59:08,096
Any good at all?

994
00:59:08,666 --> 00:59:13,796
Um, because you, once again, it's just the whole case of once you see the thing, once

995
00:59:13,796 --> 00:59:19,946
you get Bitcoin, that's it, and you're not really there if you still think the other

996
00:59:19,946 --> 00:59:24,566
cryptos or the, or fiat currencies for that matter, still have value of any kind.

997
00:59:24,926 --> 00:59:29,306
I think we still carve out a little bit of, a little bit of, um, uh, space for

998
00:59:29,306 --> 00:59:34,466
stable coins as a, as a good intermediate measure, uh, a good way of bridging the

999
00:59:34,466 --> 00:59:36,836
gap between the fiat system and Bitcoin.

1000
00:59:36,896 --> 00:59:42,536
But it's, um, that's not the same thing as, as a, as a token that exists solely

1001
00:59:42,536 --> 00:59:45,446
to separate, uh, a fool from his money.

1002
00:59:46,221 --> 00:59:52,086
No, I mean, stable coins are a tool, uh, to use in the fiat system that you

1003
00:59:52,176 --> 00:59:55,206
are still forced to use to some extent.

1004
00:59:55,746 --> 00:59:57,576
Uh, it's important to remember though, that.

1005
00:59:57,606 --> 01:00:02,646
All fiat systems are pyramid schemes, uh, uh, as any other shitcoin

1006
01:00:02,676 --> 01:00:06,306
like there, there's, uh, I think I go into this in a later chapter.

1007
01:00:06,306 --> 01:00:10,776
I, I was, uh, I view them as cryptocurrencies, which are the

1008
01:00:10,836 --> 01:00:15,636
cryptos and K cryptocurrencies, which are the, the fiat tokens.

1009
01:00:16,026 --> 01:00:19,416
They're all designed to enrich their issuer.

1010
01:00:20,076 --> 01:00:22,116
Bitcoin doesn't have an issuer.

1011
01:00:22,266 --> 01:00:24,246
This is crucial to understand.

1012
01:00:24,636 --> 01:00:29,526
Uh, and, uh, I don't remember where I was going with that.

1013
01:00:29,981 --> 01:00:30,551
That's okay.

1014
01:00:30,791 --> 01:00:32,081
I think we'll cover it more later.

1015
01:00:32,081 --> 01:00:35,831
And I think now, now let's, uh, let's sum up, I think, we'll, we'll take the,

1016
01:00:35,831 --> 01:00:37,181
the last couple of paragraphs here.

1017
01:00:39,401 --> 01:00:39,461
Okay.

1018
01:00:41,426 --> 01:00:42,566
Throughout history.

1019
01:00:42,836 --> 01:00:46,826
Whenever a prehistoric human tribe invented ceremonial burial, that

1020
01:00:46,826 --> 01:00:48,866
tribe began to expand rapidly.

1021
01:00:49,646 --> 01:00:50,126
Why?

1022
01:00:51,116 --> 01:00:54,806
Because as soon as you invent belief in an afterlife, you also introduce the

1023
01:00:54,806 --> 01:00:57,416
idea of self-sacrifice on a larger scale.

1024
01:00:58,406 --> 01:01:02,246
People who held these beliefs were much easier for a desperate to manipulate and

1025
01:01:02,246 --> 01:01:04,256
send into battle with neighboring tribes.

1026
01:01:04,976 --> 01:01:08,066
Religious leaders can use people's fears and superstitions to have them

1027
01:01:08,066 --> 01:01:12,596
commit all sorts of atrocities to their fellow man, and they still do so today.

1028
01:01:13,616 --> 01:01:16,376
Belief in a greater good can be the most destructive idea that

1029
01:01:16,376 --> 01:01:17,906
can pop up in a human mind.

1030
01:01:18,716 --> 01:01:22,286
The Nazis of World War II Germany believed that exterminating Jews was

1031
01:01:22,286 --> 01:01:24,206
for the greater good of their nation's.

1032
01:01:24,206 --> 01:01:29,036
Gene pool belief in noble causes often comes with unintended side effects,

1033
01:01:29,186 --> 01:01:31,106
which can have disastrous consequences.

1034
01:01:32,636 --> 01:01:36,296
Religious leaders, political leaders, and other power hungry sociopaths are

1035
01:01:36,296 --> 01:01:39,296
responsible for the greatest crimes against humanity ever committed.

1036
01:01:39,731 --> 01:01:41,201
Namely Wars.

1037
01:01:41,951 --> 01:01:45,011
Europeans often question the Second Amendment to the United States

1038
01:01:45,011 --> 01:01:48,431
Constitution, which protects the right to bear arms whenever a

1039
01:01:48,431 --> 01:01:51,341
tragic school shooting occurs on the other side of the Atlantic.

1040
01:01:52,541 --> 01:01:56,051
everyone seems to forget is that less than a hundred years ago, Europe was at war

1041
01:01:56,051 --> 01:02:00,011
with itself because its citizens had given too much power to their so-called leaders.

1042
01:02:00,881 --> 01:02:03,011
The Nazis came to power in a democracy.

1043
01:02:03,431 --> 01:02:08,231
Never forget that our individual rights weren't given to us by our leaders.

1044
01:02:08,381 --> 01:02:09,431
We were born with them.

1045
01:02:10,181 --> 01:02:11,921
Our leaders can't give us anything.

1046
01:02:12,311 --> 01:02:14,711
They can only force us to behave in certain ways.

1047
01:02:15,851 --> 01:02:19,901
If we truly want to be in charge of our lives, we need to find the tools necessary

1048
01:02:19,901 --> 01:02:21,911
to circumvent the bullshit ourselves.

1049
01:02:24,731 --> 01:02:25,301
Chapter.

1050
01:02:27,011 --> 01:02:32,431
Yeah, this is, um, the, the Road to Hell is paved with good intention comes to mind

1051
01:02:32,431 --> 01:02:38,041
that, that saying that this is basically what this, uh, this says, uh, and.

1052
01:02:39,656 --> 01:02:43,976
Comparing the Nazis of World War II to religious sacrifices.

1053
01:02:43,976 --> 01:02:44,756
That's another thing.

1054
01:02:44,756 --> 01:02:51,086
I mean, the, the, the point here is that no man has the, uh,

1055
01:02:51,086 --> 01:02:53,696
inherent right to rule another man.

1056
01:02:54,041 --> 01:03:01,046
Uh, uh, it's basically the non-aggression principle I'm alluding to here, and, uh,

1057
01:03:01,466 --> 01:03:04,196
basic libertarian philosophy that, uh,

1058
01:03:04,568 --> 01:03:10,461
the le the leaders of the world, whether they're religious or political, They,

1059
01:03:10,491 --> 01:03:15,051
they have no inherent right to call themselves that and to, and to take

1060
01:03:15,051 --> 01:03:16,941
your stuff and to tell you what to do.

1061
01:03:17,511 --> 01:03:22,251
Uh, and the sooner you realize this, the, the, the more fulfilling your

1062
01:03:22,251 --> 01:03:28,371
life can be because you can reclaim the driver's seat and start, um, start

1063
01:03:28,371 --> 01:03:33,321
taking your life to where you want to take it and, and not wear some power.

1064
01:03:33,321 --> 01:03:38,212
Hungry sociopath, which is the word I use here, uh, tells you to take it.

1065
01:03:39,861 --> 01:03:43,821
Yeah, the, this conclusion somewhat is a little disconnected from the

1066
01:03:43,821 --> 01:03:45,231
rest of the point of the chapter.

1067
01:03:45,231 --> 01:03:49,551
And, and I, I, I mean, I, I, I think we'll come across that as this, this was

1068
01:03:49,551 --> 01:03:51,291
more your, your writing style early on.

1069
01:03:51,291 --> 01:03:52,521
Nothing, nothing wrong with that.

1070
01:03:52,521 --> 01:03:57,231
It was just that the, the, um, many, many of these conclusions were ultimately

1071
01:03:57,231 --> 01:04:01,971
tangents to a certain extent, um, in the, in, but in, in this case, it's not, it's

1072
01:04:01,971 --> 01:04:03,351
not that it's totally unrelated at all.

1073
01:04:03,351 --> 01:04:07,251
The, the, the self-sacrifice part goes back to the financial atheism generally.

1074
01:04:07,251 --> 01:04:10,641
And, and this is, this is again, where it's sort of, I, I think,

1075
01:04:10,671 --> 01:04:13,371
I think that's one aspect of the, the self-sacrifice thing.

1076
01:04:13,371 --> 01:04:15,201
But, but we touched on this in the, in the.

1077
01:04:15,576 --> 01:04:17,286
The first episode here, the first chapter.

1078
01:04:17,286 --> 01:04:20,286
That, that the, the self-sacrifice thing is also what enables

1079
01:04:20,286 --> 01:04:21,846
society to grow generally.

1080
01:04:21,846 --> 01:04:22,146
Right?

1081
01:04:22,176 --> 01:04:25,716
It, it is double-edged sword or two-sided coins.

1082
01:04:25,716 --> 01:04:31,056
In all cases, advancements always lead to increased productivity

1083
01:04:31,056 --> 01:04:33,426
or prosperity somehow, or else they wouldn't be advancements.

1084
01:04:33,426 --> 01:04:34,776
But there's, there's downsides.

1085
01:04:35,166 --> 01:04:38,856
AI is one of these things that we might be dealing with quite a lot

1086
01:04:38,856 --> 01:04:43,296
here, but automation, ai, all, all this like, uh, greatly increased

1087
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:48,426
cognitive, um, advancements, but maybe, maybe there, there's an over alliance

1088
01:04:48,426 --> 01:04:52,386
on technology and, and, uh, less jobs to go around for people, right?

1089
01:04:52,386 --> 01:04:54,486
And this, this self-sacrifice thing is another one.

1090
01:04:54,486 --> 01:05:01,926
The, the, uh, very concept of these sort of proto religions are, are

1091
01:05:02,136 --> 01:05:04,446
also coincided with adoption of.

1092
01:05:05,091 --> 01:05:09,381
Organized hunting, organized agriculture, the beginnings of civilization.

1093
01:05:09,381 --> 01:05:12,621
But, but of course the, the downside to that is that civilizations can

1094
01:05:12,621 --> 01:05:14,931
be, can be weaponized somehow.

1095
01:05:14,931 --> 01:05:18,801
And, and I don't think we've ever gotten around that, that charismatic

1096
01:05:18,801 --> 01:05:24,381
people who, who want power can persuade others and, uh, uh, having those

1097
01:05:25,461 --> 01:05:31,161
people being also in charge of the money printer is probably also a very

1098
01:05:31,161 --> 01:05:32,989
bad thing, not probably, definitely.

1099
01:05:35,376 --> 01:05:38,706
There's nothing wrong with humans organizing themselves in groups.

1100
01:05:38,706 --> 01:05:43,086
We need that for survival, and we need intersubjective belief systems

1101
01:05:43,266 --> 01:05:46,446
like language to, to, to get anywhere.

1102
01:05:47,046 --> 01:05:52,506
Uh, it's just that, uh, when, when these belief systems come at the

1103
01:05:52,506 --> 01:05:56,646
expense of the individual, uh, their, their object objectively bad,

1104
01:05:56,646 --> 01:05:58,596
or I at least I view them as bad.

1105
01:05:58,626 --> 01:06:03,036
So sacrifice is a, a, an interesting word.

1106
01:06:03,276 --> 01:06:07,746
Uh, what what you really want is not sacrifice, but delayed gratification.

1107
01:06:07,896 --> 01:06:11,916
So you want, you want something, you, you want to give something up in the

1108
01:06:11,916 --> 01:06:14,436
now, uh, to, to get something later.

1109
01:06:14,946 --> 01:06:19,956
Uh, the, the afterlife belief in an afterlife, uh, analogy is

1110
01:06:19,956 --> 01:06:23,976
because, uh, yeah, you, you can clearly see this, that when, when

1111
01:06:24,066 --> 01:06:26,166
ceremonial burial is invented, then.

1112
01:06:26,841 --> 01:06:27,861
Civilizations grow.

1113
01:06:28,161 --> 01:06:32,091
But that's not necessarily because ceremonial burial was a good thing.

1114
01:06:32,601 --> 01:06:37,551
Uh, if aliens saw that, they would probably, uh, view us as idiots.

1115
01:06:37,551 --> 01:06:41,031
Like, why are you digging dead bodies into the ground and

1116
01:06:41,031 --> 01:06:42,351
putting stones next to them?

1117
01:06:42,591 --> 01:06:47,721
Because, uh, more so than good for the individual who is already dead,

1118
01:06:47,961 --> 01:06:52,731
the, the ceremonial burial is good for the leader who can tell you that

1119
01:06:52,761 --> 01:06:57,021
if you do this and that in this life, you'll get a better life, uh, next

1120
01:06:57,021 --> 01:07:00,801
time you're reincarnated or whatever, or in heaven or something like that.

1121
01:07:01,071 --> 01:07:06,891
So there, there's a potential that these things, uh, can be used by,

1122
01:07:06,951 --> 01:07:11,781
by people who you don't want to use these tools to, to make the 18 year

1123
01:07:11,781 --> 01:07:15,471
olds go and kill the other tribe on the other side of the river.

1124
01:07:15,531 --> 01:07:21,622
Uh, in, in my opinion, I. Civilization happens when we trade with one

1125
01:07:21,622 --> 01:07:23,422
another, not when we kill one another.

1126
01:07:23,482 --> 01:07:27,592
So it's basically a war cry for individualism versus collectivism

1127
01:07:27,592 --> 01:07:28,942
like everything else in these books.

1128
01:07:29,632 --> 01:07:32,467
Well, what's funny here about this, and, and I, I certainly agree with that.

1129
01:07:32,857 --> 01:07:36,997
But, but I, I think maybe you, you overemphasize like possibly

1130
01:07:36,997 --> 01:07:40,987
I underemphasize the, the or, or overemphasize the opposite.

1131
01:07:40,987 --> 01:07:46,237
The, uh, I, I think you, you overemphasize the top downness of religion.

1132
01:07:46,747 --> 01:07:51,547
Uh, uh, I, I think there's ample evidence that that's not really how

1133
01:07:51,547 --> 01:07:53,797
religion works most of the time.

1134
01:07:53,797 --> 01:07:53,977
It's

1135
01:07:54,107 --> 01:07:57,712
No, no, I'm, I'm not saying that it's, uh, mandated, top down.

1136
01:07:57,712 --> 01:08:02,812
I'm saying that the psychopaths use the, the fact that other people have

1137
01:08:02,812 --> 01:08:05,902
this set of beliefs for their own gain.

1138
01:08:06,322 --> 01:08:08,152
So, so it, yeah.

1139
01:08:08,392 --> 01:08:13,432
And that's very important to set, uh, to, to clarify, I don't think that some

1140
01:08:13,432 --> 01:08:18,052
psychopath came up with the idea of God, that's, that's not what I'm saying at all.

1141
01:08:18,052 --> 01:08:20,482
Or the concept of heaven and hell or anything like that.

1142
01:08:20,662 --> 01:08:25,192
I, I'd say that, uh, there's a risk involved that these people will

1143
01:08:25,192 --> 01:08:27,862
use these ideas against people.

1144
01:08:28,312 --> 01:08:28,882
Uh, uh.

1145
01:08:28,942 --> 01:08:30,232
People's best interests.

1146
01:08:30,842 --> 01:08:31,372
There we go.

1147
01:08:31,372 --> 01:08:33,052
And I, I full, I fully agree with that.

1148
01:08:33,052 --> 01:08:38,572
And, and, and you know, I, I think the meta thing that if, if I can sum up my

1149
01:08:38,572 --> 01:08:43,732
thoughts about this, this whole thing, that, that Bitcoin becomes a tool for the

1150
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individual to safeguard against others, being able to use money against them.

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But that's also sort of all that it is, the, the entire rest of the, the coin

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here is that responsibility still lies with the individual to do with it, what

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they will and, and the risk of the.

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World going to shit irrespective of what any of us do.

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That's, that's always going to be present.

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But we can now do things, we can do one specific thing to take back some

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of that control and live life, how we want to associate with the people

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we, we want to, the community that is cropping up around Bitcoiners is a, is

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a pretty awesome one and it's, uh, it's a lot of fun to be involved in that.

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Um, so yeah, bi Bitcoin is financial atheism.

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We might have a couple of disagreements on, on semantics of,

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of the word atheism or, or of the term sacrifice or whatever it is.

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But, but broadly, broadly, uh, I think it's, it's a very astute observation

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and, and it's not atheism in a way that means to antagonize religious people.

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It's, it's really the, the concept of money that that does not need to be

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believed in, which is extremely important.

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Yeah, no, you can, don't trust, verify is the, uh, the TLDR of this chapter?

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Perfect.

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Is that, is that, uh, where we'll leave this chapter?

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I think so.

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I have many other thoughts, but, uh, we have plenty of time to

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discuss them in later chapters.

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So, so don't trust, verify people, uh, like, subscribe, run

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a node and brush your damn teeth.

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Yeah.

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Uh, I'll echo that exactly.

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And, and, uh, uh, now that we're at the end of the chapter,

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let us know what you think.

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Uh, leave a comment in YouTube or Rumble if you're watching there.

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Uh, if you're listening on, for example, fountain, uh, send us,

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send us a note on, on Noster or, or Twitter or something like that.

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Uh, let us know what you think.

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Share the episode.

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Definitely don't forget to like and subscribe wherever you are.

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Every little bit helps us reach more people.

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And the other thing you can do, by the way, is uh, go to our Geyser

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page and you can see all the details of what we're running here

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at the Bitcoin Infinity Academy.

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You can join our telegram group where we have all of our, all of our news,

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everything we're up to, and you can chat with us about everything that's going on.

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And we also have the Bitcoin, uh, sorry, the, and we also have the Miral

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Adamantium tier where you get the chance to watch the, uh, the recordings of these

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episodes live and, uh, get them early.

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If we're doing them any degree of early today, we happen to be releasing same day.

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So that's, that's pretty fun for me, the editor.

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But, uh, uh, uh, now we're having lots of fun and, uh, come join us.

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Come join the conversation.

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Anything more to say about that Knut.

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Yeah, just one thing I thought of.

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Uh, we are posting these on highlighter.

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The every chapter is posted on highlighter for free every week, so you can go to

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highlighter, uh, and highlight stuff and, uh, uh, share it on, uh, over noster and,

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and use all the perks of highlighter.

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So I hope that, that, that becomes a thing too.

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So highlight your favorite quote.

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Yes.

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And, and if you have comments or questions after the fact here, we'll

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address them in the, the next episodes.

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01:12:09,826 --> 01:12:13,216
Uh, definitely we, we will see them if you're in the Miro Atium group and

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you ping us there, but we'll, we'll try to stay on top of any comments

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on Noster or Twitter or, or wherever.

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So.

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I think, uh, I think the, the last thing is just to, to mention that, uh, uh,

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thank you again to Plan B Network for really enabling this, this series enabling

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01:12:30,886 --> 01:12:35,836
us to release these, uh, the chapters and the episodes for free for everyone.

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And, uh, it's, it's great to be partnering with them.

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They're, they're really trailblazing in terms of Bitcoin education and, and this

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initiative is just a, a perfect fit.

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We were on a spaces with, with Zuko just, uh, just the other day here.

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And, uh, uh, I think I, I, I just, I just see nothing but, but positives

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from, from this collaboration and, and they're doing great things.

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01:12:57,676 --> 01:13:00,976
So go to Plan B Network, uh, and you can check out some other great

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Bitcoin education resources and, and on their YouTube channel.

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01:13:04,426 --> 01:13:09,346
There's also gonna be condensed versions of these episodes, so when we go on these

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really long tangents, we'll, we'll maybe cut those out a little bit so it's a

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little more direct and accessible for, for people who just want the, the information.

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So really excited about this partnership.

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01:13:19,630 --> 01:13:22,600
totally echo, echo what Luke said about plan B. It's a, it's a great,

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01:13:23,290 --> 01:13:27,790
uh, uh, a great initiative and there will be plenty more to come there,

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uh, uh, going into the future.

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Looking forward to all of it.

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01:13:31,555 --> 01:13:32,335
Absolutely.

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01:13:32,395 --> 01:13:36,265
And, and finally, we, we also, uh, are, are happy to be, uh,

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also supported by Bit Box.

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Big, big shout out to them.

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01:13:39,025 --> 01:13:42,625
And, and thank you for, for continuing to support these initiatives here.

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They're, they're also a sponsor of our, our main show.

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They've, they've really been a great partner.

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They're our favorite hardware wallet.

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It's easy to use and they're right on top of the, the latest

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in, in bitcoin security here.

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So go to Bit box.swiss/infiniti, check out the Bit Box zero two Bitcoin only edition.

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01:13:59,515 --> 01:14:03,745
And yeah, if you need a new hardware wallet for yourself or, or you know,

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01:14:03,745 --> 01:14:08,755
a, a new Coiner who, who needs a hardware wallet, go to Bit Box and,

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01:14:08,755 --> 01:14:09,895
uh, they'll have what you need.

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01:14:10,315 --> 01:14:12,535
So, uh, thanks again to Bit Box.

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01:14:13,297 --> 01:14:15,787
Alright, Knut, this has been an awesome episode.

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01:14:15,792 --> 01:14:17,467
Uh, I really enjoyed this one.

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Financial atheism.

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Looking forward to the release and we'll be tackling another episode in a week.

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This

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Yes, next week's episode is the About the Gullible Collective.

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See you all then.

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Take care.

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01:14:30,937 --> 01:14:32,857
has been the Bitcoin Infinity Academy.

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Thank you for listening.