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Uncle Rockstar,

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Hello, sir.

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welcome to the Freedom Footprint Show.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for having me.

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Yeah, my favorite uncle.

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Yeah.

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You have, you have other uncles,

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Yeah, I do.

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Uh,

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of them in Bitcoin?

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No, no, they're, they're shit old.

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Well, you know, the time 80, right?

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Under this mask.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Depends on what, like, what, what sort of planetary years

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you're counting in, but like,

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Yeah.

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I bet you're 18 Mercury years.

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Um, well, more, more than that.

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and, and actually this conference we were at, I mean, so far

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it's going great, right?

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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I'm really enjoying it and uh, I had a moment where not only my age

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but my race was assumed that like I'm Chinese under this mask since I

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just perfected my R's and you know, expressions so yeah, you never know.

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Has anyone assumed your gender yet?

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Uh, yeah, yeah, I must say I, sorry ladies but yeah, I uh, I just

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need to join next women's brunch.

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I'm a woman.

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Yeah,

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Yeah, yeah,

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So yeah,

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the, oh, brunch, that's, like, is there even such a thing as a brunch?

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Isn't it just a late breakfast?

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I mean.

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Really depends Knut on where you are on this planet.

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I mean, breakfast, it, it, like, to an autist like me, it, like, means

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breaking your fast after the night.

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Like, so your first meal is the breakfast, so there is no second breakfast.

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Uh, yeah, you're right.

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And I didn't think about it that way, but I think it's just again,

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like, it depends where you are on this planet and people want to feel

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special wherever they are locally.

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So they invent these rituals and names and yeah, special meals.

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So

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and we have time zones, so like, uh, a dinner in Europe

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would be a lunch in the US.

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And it means it's always five o'clock somewhere.

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Yeah, it's always 5 o'clock somewhere.

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yeah.

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What is an uncle?

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How do you define an uncle?

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Well, uncle is someone that's not necessarily like closely related to you.

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So it's not father or grandpa, but it's, it's someone in, you know, in the

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family, like, like a distant relative, especially like everyone needs a crazy

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uncle in their life, you know, to, because some things you really don't

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want to say to your closest family.

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And then if someone is too far away.

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In your relationships, then it's not someone you're going to confide in.

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So uncle comes in perfectly, uh, in there.

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And especially uncles also like they have experience, right?

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They have wisdom.

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They, they've seen stuff, they've been through stuff.

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And, uh, then.

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You don't even know, you know, what are the things that you

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should experience in life.

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So that's where uncle comes in, guides you, helps you, gives advice,

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you know, gets you into trouble, gets you out of the trouble.

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And, uh, the way it started for me, uh, people can look this up on the internet

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is, uh, I, um, ended up in Chicago, what is now like, maybe a decade ago.

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And, uh, see, I get, I get the alarms all the time.

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Nephew, nephews and nieces calling.

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Yeah.

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So I ended up in Chicago.

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I started going to local Bitcoin meetups and, uh, Jack Mallers

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and his family were the ones organizing them for quite a while.

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And that's where we really hit it off.

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And this is like 28, 2017, 2018, 2019,

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Yeah.

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uh, it's already where, uh, Rockstar developer Nim is gaining

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some traction like myself because of the work with Nicholas.

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And, uh, then Jack started asking me for help.

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He's like, Hey, you know, can you look into this?

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I'm curious about this.

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I know you have startup experience because ever since I immigrated to the U.

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S.

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I've only done tech startups.

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So I was helping him with, uh, Zap Wallet, if you

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, It ended up, uh, once he wrote the blog post for, uh, uh, Zap Android,

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that's where he referenced, he said, Oh, you know, Bitcoin, uh, communities

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like family, uh, and who to call when, um, Zap Android falls from sky,

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of course, you know, BTC pay server.

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He's like my Bitcoin uncle.

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Uh, he helps me and yeah, it then started from there because, especially

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considering the success we had with Strike, then I had other Bitcoiners

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approach and like, can you be my uncle?

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Can you?

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And, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm actually just so you know, like it's closed.

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The program is closed.

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I have too many nephews and nieces.

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I, uh, Yeah, I'm not, I don't have enough time.

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I'm even getting complaints, you know, Desperate Sia, like Anastasia.

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Yeah.

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So she even complained on Twitter recently, like that I suck, his uncle.

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So sorry.

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Like I, yeah, we fixed that.

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I did.

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Well,

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it's still okay to get an Uncle Rockstar poster and put it on your bedroom wall if

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you're a teenager and in need of an uncle.

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absolutely.

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And

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Ah, that's, that's good

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And, and if anyone does that and you take a picture, tag me on

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Twitter, I, yeah, maybe not uncle, but I'll be like distant uncle.

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I definitely will help.

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You get one

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Granduncle, maybe.

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Grunkle.

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Grunkle.

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Granduncle.

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Exactly.

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Okay, yeah, let's do Grunkle,

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Granduncle Rockstar.

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Welcome to the Freedom Footprint.

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I mean

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Yeah,

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to see the premiere of the B2C Payserver movie in Warsaw.

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In that fantastic building that that nice guy Stalin gave to the city.

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what a guy,

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what a guy.

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And like the, the, the building, it looks like something out of Gotham, Gotham city.

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Uh, ironically enough, it's sort of the most beautiful building

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in this, in the entire city.

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Even though it's butt ugly, but that was a great event and the

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movie was absolutely fantastic.

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Um, so, uh, and you know, you don't have to, uh, regurgitate the whole thing, but

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can you tell us how you, uh, how like B2C pay server happened, how, how you

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met Nicholas and, uh, Like, his story and what, what BTC pay server was a response

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to, and like, because like the, the, the thing I really loved about the movie

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was the framing of the block size wars, because it's the first time I've heard

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it correct, that story told correctly.

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Uh, remember the, the sentence, it was never about block size,

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it was always about control,

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Yeah, yeah.

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I

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I love that, so, yeah, what's, what's your take?

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Yeah.

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I said in the documentary, it's like, it's, it wasn't about block size.

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It was about who tells who, what to do.

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Um, and actually that, that was the motivation, huge motivation for Parker

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Webworthy, uh, who is the creator of documentary and team member at BTC pays

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server in charge of, you know, uh, our media or socials, uh, is he wanted.

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Uh, he wanted to give, um, like a video format, uh, that goes along with, um,

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what's, what's exactly the name of, of the book that, um, like block size, uh, wars.

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Yeah.

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Like he wanted to give a video format.

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So anyone that reads the book and wants like, Hey, I want to know

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more, um, is there another resource?

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Yeah.

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Thanks.

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It was like, Hey, there is a video, there is a documentary.

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And it really covers how BTCPacer as a project started.

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And hopefully, like, it's not only about us as a project and how Nikola

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started the project, how I joined, how Palonex joined, Kooks, what the project

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and the work on it, like done for us.

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But it's more like, I really hope it inspires people.

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I think it does, I think it already does, and you could already see it in Warsaw,

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I mean, for those who don't know, like, at the time, during the block size wars,

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there was this company called BitPay.

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Yes.

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And they had like, there's a centralized unit that had sort, sort of the

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entire payments market in, in Bitcoin

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Nicholas was even encouraging everyone to use BitPay.

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before,

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Before BTCPacer, that's why he was so, like, pissed off, is because he sent all

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the people to BitPay and then BitPay was now taking all the people to SegWit2x.

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Yeah.

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the BitPay wanted the SegWit2x hard fork, which would have set a precedent

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for increasing the block size even more.

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Uh, which means it's more and more expensive for new users to

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set up a node and to run a node.

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And the costlier that is, the less decentralized Bitcoin is.

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And inevitably at some point, Bitcoin doesn't work anymore because it's not

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decentralized and therefore not secure.

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It becomes a shitcoin.

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If that is allowed to happen, but the users signaled that they wouldn't

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take this bullshit and we won.

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So for me, that was the point in time where I was like, holy

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shit, Bitcoin actually works.

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It's like, I'm so.

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And like, committed now because, like, this is the greatest thing

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ever, and I have lived through this.

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It actually worked.

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And I managed to get a hold of my own keys and sell the shitcoin

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trash as soon as possible.

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all that, like,

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You actually sold the top.

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I did, like, almost the top, like, I think I sold them for a fifth of a bitcoin each.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's it.

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20% ed my stack, like, I told my wife, darling, you need to shut up now for a

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couple of hours and leave me the fuck alone, because I'm going to do a thing.

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It's, I'm not going to be able to explain it to you,

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with the other

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here I am, uh, you know, seven years down the line trying to explain it to

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other people, but anyway, or six years,

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I think I sold the Bitcoin gold, but I didn't bother with the other forks

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because it was too little to like, and there was also like, if you did it

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the wrong way, and like a little later down the line that could be tracked so

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that people knew that you were doing like, well, Well, it was what it was.

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Yeah, it was really amazing times.

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You should have, you should have held your Bitcoin cash or B cash as Carvalho

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was, because you could have got BSV, you know, the ultimate shit coin.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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of, yeah, B cash like that.

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But to me, it was like a cross between a train robbery.

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No, a train crash and a Christmas gift.

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Like something in between.

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No, I mean, I really hope we inspire people to like look up those

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times because it was crazy times.

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You just get, imagine you get now something that increases your Bitcoin

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stack by 20%, 20 percent like.

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yeah, and someone is willing to sell you some obvious shit for the best thing ever.

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And it's like, of course I'm going to sell the shit.

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Like it's cryptographic fecal matter.

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What, what can I do with it?

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So, uh, and I mean, uh, the, the other thing that happened during that time is

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like, uh, I wrote an article about how to.

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Gain control of your own keys because I, I needed to tell my, teach myself how

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to do that because at the time, that was not something that like, uh, layman level

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Bitcoiners were even thinking about doing.

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Everyone was using custodial either blockchain info or Coinbase.

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Right.

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Those were sort of the only wallets around.

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blockchain.

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info.

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Hey, Mandrik.

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Yeah.

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So, so, uh, I needed to, um, teach myself how to do that.

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And then I wrote an article about that, and that's the first.

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article that got sort of semi viral of mine.

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So it got like 70, 000 reads or something.

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And then I thought, holy shit, maybe there's a value to, to like

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Yeah.

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writing about this stuff.

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Yeah.

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That's, see, that's, that's one of the things that people don't

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get about big conflicts and chaos.

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It, it gives rise to new people, new characters.

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And, uh, I didn't know that.

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Yeah.

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About you.

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Um, I'm actually now that, yeah, thank you, Roger Ver, uh,

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Yeah.

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Thank you, Roger.

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yeah, for getting us Knut.

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So, so, uh, no, no, that's, that's really great because even kind of conflicts

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that we now have in Bitcoin, well, We'll, we'll produce someone who is

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like, okay, you know, like, fuck this.

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I'm going to do, yeah, something else.

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And they're going to produce beautiful outcomes and results

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yeah.

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And to continue the story about, uh, B2C pay.

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Yeah.

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So Nicholas Doer, the founder of B2C Pay server, didn't take this.

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He's like, no, I reject your proposition.

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And or what's the, what's the tweet?

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The

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yeah, so they published a blog post saying, uh, merchants upgrade to

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Bitcore, uh, and, uh, didn't mention SegWit2x or anything there, uh, And

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it is, it's an upgrade of Bitcoin and Nicholas responded to their tweet

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linking to blog post with, this is lies.

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My trust in you is broken.

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I will make you obsolete.

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Yes, and he did.

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yeah, as they say in the documentary and documentary is on YouTube.

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If you search BTC pay documentary, you will find it.

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Yeah.

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My trust in you is broken.

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That's the name of it, right?

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it's exactly, Parker took that, uh, that, that started a tweet and it's such a

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powerful tweet, uh, but most of the people at the time were telling like, they were

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like, this guy's crazy, like BitPay just raised 60 million, like they got money

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from Bitmain as well, they got money from all the, you know, big Entities and funds.

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They're like, how will single developer obsolete them?

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It doesn't make any sense, but

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No, but it's, it's sort of like the same message as Bitcoin itself.

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Like, uh, uh, uh, my trust in you is broken is what Bitcoin

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is saying to central banking.

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And we're, okay, I'm going to fight like the biggest power in the

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entire world and I'm going to win.

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And that's what Bitcoin is doing and has been doing all along.

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So it's, it is literally echoing the ethos of the idea itself.

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yeah.

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And it is so exciting to be part of this band of misfits in Bitcoin, because

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if you look at the history, history is just a constant flow of human.

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Individual freedom increasing through technology because it's, it, what, what

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could have someone done in, you know, 1971 when Nixon just decided like, Oh,

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can't redeem gold, like there is no technology for you to, to fight that.

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But as we now see through.

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Bitcoin, through what you say, BTC pay server, through other tools that are being

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built, it's like you as an individual, if you embrace those tools, if you use those

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tools, you can really get to the point where you are a sovereign individual,

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uh, and you That's, that more also goes into the creed and history of cypherpunks

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because, yeah, they especially really saw well how this digital society and

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information madness will just increase.

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And then you as an individual will need to have technology and tools to

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defend your freedom because, yeah, you'll just, as information madness

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increases, you'll just have more and more crazy individuals like around you.

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And, uh, where the crazy ones, the misfits, the blah, blah, blah, the

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Steve Jobs speech comes to mind.

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But I think you guys.

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Uh, like it's underappreciated what a mark you made on history

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because you set such a good example for other companies to follow.

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So where there was once local bitcoins, there is now, you know, HODL, HODL,

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and BISC, and PEACH, and WEXEL.

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and stuff like that.

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There's just growing new stuff coming, uh, where there was once

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a social media conglomerate, big thingies, there is now Nostr.

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And like, and I think all of those projects are, are inspired

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by how, by your guys move and like how that actually worked.

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And it's just fantastic to see.

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So it's, it's rockstar stuff.

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hey, thank you.

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Uh, I'm just small part of it, but yeah, it is that, uh, free and open source

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software creed and, uh, yeah, you wear a start nine t shirt, my good friend,

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another thing.

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Yeah.

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It's, you can download that OS and flash any device.

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That's really

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Highly recommended.

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recommended because that's the future that I see, um, make a good future because

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us cypherpunks, it's all about ensuring that we do not end in a cyberpunk.

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Because cyberpunk is high technology, low quality of living

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for most of the population.

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So there is not even like 1%, but 0.

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01 percent of ultra rich who now have access to all the resources through

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technology, like through automation, through like, Hey, I'm the one controlling

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the AI that controls the whole planet.

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Um, yeah.

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And everyone else is like, Hey.

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I, I want to live well, what can I trade you in, in return of you, like, not,

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like, even like giving me something is like, well, you can't offer me nothing.

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You're just, you're a piece of meat, and, yeah, so, we don't want that.

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We want to,

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Well, you can be voting cattle.

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Sacrificed on the altar of democracy.

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That's what you can be

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Yeah, like, oh yeah, be like a part of the ritual,

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Yeah, yeah.

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And

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ritual, like live in a pod, eat

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you're on employed in the public sector or if you're on social security

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or some sort of support mechanism

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UBI, yeah,

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not basic and not even income, uh, like the federal reserve is not federal,

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not the reserve and not the bank.

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Uh, this, uh, you are very unlikely to vote against the hand that feeds you.

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And that's what feeds the machine.

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So,

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NPC army, like part of that,

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And, uh, well, now there's a way to not participate.

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And, like, we were talking to Alex Svetsky about Sattlantis

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yesterday, which is a great, another tool, the way we see this, like,

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I actually like that he's building it for himself, yeah,

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Yeah, and

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that's always good.

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uh, like a way of building layers of, like, decentralized, nation

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states on top of whatever the legacy system thinks is real.

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You, you can like, we can organize ourselves.

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We can, we can, we can truly, uh, it's truly fuck you money.

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And it's truly fuck you technology where we can do other things than that normies

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Yeah, that's, that's where I started like this conversation before I went

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full cypherpunk, uh, but I would start nine and BTC pay server and Bitcoin,

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like you as an individual, you take all these technologies and you make your

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freedom stack and you're in charge.

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And I really see for.

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Um, a lot of individuals, maybe this will not be feasible, but, uh, because

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it's kind of like a cycle of life, a circle where we may get to the point

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where you have an individual in your community that it takes care of the stack.

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Like it's maybe, you know, part, someone, part of your family, or it's

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a crazy uncle, Uncle Jim, there we go.

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Yeah.

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I, uh,

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Uncle Ben, there are many Ben's in Bitcoin.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So

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a lot of Luke's as well.

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Uncle

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uncle Luke.

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Yeah.

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Well, canoe will be in charge of singing.

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Yeah.

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Especially

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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The Omoro flyer.

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Yes,

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doing Omo tonight.

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Wish me luck.

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Yeah.

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No, no.

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You don't need

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Well, come to the next Satoshi Rakamoto in Rigo or Prague next year

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or wherever the fuck it is next,

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Nashville maybe,

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Nashville, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Riga

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Yeah, but to finish what I was

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Sorry, sorry,

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you're too, you're too excited.

422
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yeah, yeah.

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I'm too excited.

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I have a rockstar here.

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what I was going to say is if.

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We can go in that direction.

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And you even just have one individual who can do that.

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That's how you can create real like pockets of freedom, like a little tribes

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where, you know, like you live in an environment where you You don't need

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phones or you don't need to constantly be like worrying about what will come

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from the outside and like attack you, but rather it's like a little oasis.

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And I think we're going to create them through this freedom technology because

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for a lot of individuals, like you can already create it as individual,

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but it's just kind of boring, right?

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Being just by yourself.

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And then where I think government gets.

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Most even like digital nomads is family is like, once you do get

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kids, like you're anchored to the school, to the local community.

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And that's where they get you and tax you.

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Um, and that's where they drag you into local, like stupid politics of, Oh,

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we got to change your school rules.

442
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So your kids need to, yeah, do this, do that.

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Yeah, you can do, or you need to ask us for permission.

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That's crazy thing I've heard of this conference, uh, in Germany, like you need

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to ask for permission for a kid to not be in school for a certain amount of time.

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Like, so if you want to take them to the conference, you

447
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need to ask for permission.

448
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yeah.

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Same across Europe.

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Like, I think both in Sweden and Spain, where I've been, it's a week per semester.

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Like, you can take a week off per semester without asking for permission, but

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Anything above that, you need a like a written thing, and I know a Swedish, I

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just heard like last month about a Swedish couple that has been taking their kids

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to Thailand for a month per year, every year since like five years back, and now

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the school said, no, you can't, and they said like, well, yeah, what are you going

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to do about it, and they went, I And when they came back, they got a 6, 000

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fine for, for taking the kid to Thailand.

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And I bet you that kid learned more by doing that than by

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staying ba ba ba in the whatever,

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What did they learn in Thailand exactly?

461
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no,

462
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Oh yeah, no, no.

463
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I, I'm sure the story had a happy ending.

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Yeah.

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I'll, I'll go, I'll, I'll stop laughing.

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Number one, number two is, yeah, very mature bitcoiners.

467
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Number two, like it doesn't even matter.

468
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That's the thing is like, that's how far they, they got people like

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and programmed us is like, Hey, like, why are you going to Thailand?

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It's like, Hey, Why the fuck should I tell to you?

471
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It's like, who, who are you?

472
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Like it's, it's, yeah, it's your kid.

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It's not their kid.

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And this is the part of information madness as well, because, I mean, you have

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a lot of like individuals that are lonely, that are lost and they end up being in

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like positions of teachers or education of kids and they're like, Oh, we had this.

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Madness in US, someone may find, like, I think even Joe Biden, it was, in

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the video, saying, like, to educators, like, oh, it's your kids, like, no, man,

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it's not your kids, it's like, kids of the family, like, it's not state kids,

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it's not educator kids, like, they have a job, their job is to educate

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kids, but there is a certain boundary, And like, like stop with the nonsense.

482
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So

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I remember that was one of my favorite parts of like when Richard Dawkins

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book The God Delusion, there's a section in that where he claims that

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there's no such thing as a Jewish child, a Christian child, a Muslim

486
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child, because all of these things are ideas, sets of ideas that are put

487
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into the child as the child grows up.

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But I would take it all the steps down the line.

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There's no such thing as an American child, a Russian child, or like, the child

490
00:26:51,541 --> 00:26:56,371
doesn't get the software or the firmware until it's fucking installed in the child.

491
00:26:56,461 --> 00:27:02,671
Like, we tell them that this is the way the world works, and that

492
00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:07,191
we need to admit to ourselves that that is, that are all layers on top.

493
00:27:07,231 --> 00:27:08,761
It has nothing to do with reality.

494
00:27:08,956 --> 00:27:14,066
So question for you, why do these delusions exist?

495
00:27:14,469 --> 00:27:18,834
Uh, because Of the urge for there to be a free lunch.

496
00:27:19,194 --> 00:27:22,134
I think that is the root cause of all human problems.

497
00:27:22,254 --> 00:27:26,804
People want there to be an easy solution to, to all the problems.

498
00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:32,054
Uh, and they want there to be a free lunch, which means they want, they, they

499
00:27:32,054 --> 00:27:34,994
want someone to tell them, no problem.

500
00:27:34,999 --> 00:27:37,379
I'm gonna fix this because I'm good.

501
00:27:37,544 --> 00:27:39,314
And, uh, all the other people are bad.

502
00:27:39,694 --> 00:27:42,514
And that's how the, uh, narcissistic psychopaths get in.

503
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:46,499
Get into positions of power by fooling people that there's a free

504
00:27:46,499 --> 00:27:48,289
lunch, but there is no free lunch.

505
00:27:48,329 --> 00:27:49,519
There is no second breakfast.

506
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:54,229
There is, there is hard work and proof of results.

507
00:27:54,309 --> 00:27:55,369
And that's all that matters.

508
00:27:55,899 --> 00:27:57,199
That's, that's my two sats.

509
00:27:57,244 --> 00:28:05,324
Let, let me approach it from my perspective of like that exists.

510
00:28:05,854 --> 00:28:09,504
Like, I don't know if I should call it the delusion, but maybe, yeah, for the

511
00:28:09,504 --> 00:28:13,734
sake of this conversation, like let's call it the delusion, uh, I think it

512
00:28:13,734 --> 00:28:17,334
exists because it's a very useful crutch.

513
00:28:18,139 --> 00:28:23,829
You know, it's, it's a, it's a thing that helps you on, on, on your way and in your

514
00:28:23,829 --> 00:28:31,839
life, because Uh, imagine like you're a kid blessed with, uh, experience and

515
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:39,199
the wisdom of Knut and you're growing up in, uh, Russia and you're like being

516
00:28:39,199 --> 00:28:41,059
programmed and you're like, Oh fuck.

517
00:28:41,089 --> 00:28:42,689
I know I'm being programmed.

518
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:43,609
I don't

519
00:28:43,639 --> 00:28:44,689
want to be programmed.

520
00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:47,649
And it's like, so you start this struggle and this battle,

521
00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:49,409
but what can you really do?

522
00:28:49,834 --> 00:28:55,714
Uh, and I see it as a, it's very useful to be part of the group.

523
00:28:56,254 --> 00:29:01,224
And then as you're part of the group, uh, you're using this knowledge, like

524
00:29:01,224 --> 00:29:06,854
this imperfect knowledge on your journey to perfection, because that's what I

525
00:29:06,864 --> 00:29:09,254
think it comes for every individual.

526
00:29:09,254 --> 00:29:16,054
Like this whole life, this experience is like you get this block of time and, uh,

527
00:29:17,019 --> 00:29:21,099
You're trying to get to know the truth.

528
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:22,199
Yeah.

529
00:29:22,404 --> 00:29:24,954
You, you have to get out of the, the group mentality.

530
00:29:24,954 --> 00:29:25,494
Exactly.

531
00:29:25,499 --> 00:29:29,124
You, you, you have to, you have to get past it in order to become a

532
00:29:29,124 --> 00:29:30,834
self-actualized individual, basically.

533
00:29:30,849 --> 00:29:32,699
And in order to appreciate it.

534
00:29:32,719 --> 00:29:33,169
Because.

535
00:29:34,419 --> 00:29:39,169
Ideas are, like, there's value in most of them, like, these things,

536
00:29:39,169 --> 00:29:42,229
these groupings, I mean, there are

537
00:29:42,669 --> 00:29:44,199
Like they exist for a reason.

538
00:29:44,259 --> 00:29:44,709
Yeah.

539
00:29:44,989 --> 00:29:45,349
Yeah.

540
00:29:45,529 --> 00:29:51,029
just, the thing people need to understand is that psychopaths use these narratives

541
00:29:51,069 --> 00:29:55,769
to fucking control people, and that's the mindset you need to get out of.

542
00:29:56,019 --> 00:30:01,379
at the cypherpunk meeting, like I, uh, well, not cypherpunk meeting, cypherpunk

543
00:30:01,429 --> 00:30:05,699
panel, we had so many cypherpunk events here, you should, like, look them up.

544
00:30:06,169 --> 00:30:12,969
Um, I said that I actually, in the last few years, Knut, you will love

545
00:30:12,969 --> 00:30:16,339
this, I, I grew to appreciate politics.

546
00:30:16,809 --> 00:30:17,019
Yeah,

547
00:30:17,089 --> 00:30:21,269
I like politics because what would we do with all the psychopaths?

548
00:30:21,729 --> 00:30:26,219
Like they would be organizing gangs, they were like extorting people.

549
00:30:26,719 --> 00:30:32,079
Yeah, but, but, but, but they get this like nice format of every

550
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,099
like four years, like election.

551
00:30:34,099 --> 00:30:39,429
So they need to like dress up and be like, Hey, everyone, I really care about you.

552
00:30:39,469 --> 00:30:42,199
Like they need, they need to be nice.

553
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:46,179
And then when you record them off camera, like they're terrible people.

554
00:30:46,189 --> 00:30:49,959
Like, yeah, but, but they, they get, it's a nice format.

555
00:30:50,299 --> 00:30:50,949
So.

556
00:30:51,699 --> 00:30:53,419
And then they get to fight each other.

557
00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:56,229
It's like modern gladiator, yeah, fights.

558
00:30:56,509 --> 00:30:58,119
The only, like, I love it.

559
00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:04,449
The only problem, the only problem is they also control money printer.

560
00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:11,764
So imagine, yeah, once Bitcoin defunds them, they will still like, they will

561
00:31:11,764 --> 00:31:13,694
continue running these elections and

562
00:31:13,724 --> 00:31:15,354
will still have entertainment value,

563
00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:19,854
but yeah, they, they will not have access to money printer.

564
00:31:19,894 --> 00:31:23,884
I do feel for people that will not be on Bitcoin standard.

565
00:31:24,294 --> 00:31:27,244
Because fiat currencies, they're not going away.

566
00:31:27,644 --> 00:31:31,944
These politicians will continue increasing government programs and

567
00:31:32,144 --> 00:31:36,454
like, Oh, during my election, I have promised I'm going to do this.

568
00:31:36,634 --> 00:31:37,784
Now I'm doing this.

569
00:31:37,804 --> 00:31:38,214
It's like

570
00:31:38,624 --> 00:31:43,634
and as long as people fall for it, they are going to continue, that's like, and

571
00:31:43,634 --> 00:31:47,724
people keep falling for like, this is the euro, it's money, this is the dollar,

572
00:31:47,744 --> 00:31:50,814
it's money, it's not, it's, it's fake.

573
00:31:51,484 --> 00:31:57,844
Like, it's not doing it's job as money, it's only good for medium of change over

574
00:31:57,854 --> 00:32:03,014
space and not medium of change over time, because, so, it's flawed, it's, yeah,

575
00:32:03,544 --> 00:32:09,044
I think Knut also, you're a perfectionist, you will be like, uh, yeah, you, you, you

576
00:32:09,044 --> 00:32:14,974
are focusing, it's never black or white, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a scale.

577
00:32:15,044 --> 00:32:20,304
And I, I see like US dollars, they are, listen, they're very useful

578
00:32:20,414 --> 00:32:27,374
because, uh, when I, when I give, let's go, when I give this piece of paper,

579
00:32:27,814 --> 00:32:30,094
people, like, they're like happy.

580
00:32:30,489 --> 00:32:33,659
I give them, I give them this piece of paper.

581
00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:35,239
They're like, ah, this is fake.

582
00:32:35,294 --> 00:32:38,074
even though that says 21 and this only says 1,

583
00:32:39,239 --> 00:32:40,019
Imagine that.

584
00:32:40,049 --> 00:32:40,309
Yeah.

585
00:32:40,309 --> 00:32:41,349
And this one has

586
00:32:41,614 --> 00:32:42,524
have one of these.

587
00:32:42,689 --> 00:32:49,259
yeah, well, uh, how about, how about you have one of these that you have stamped

588
00:32:49,289 --> 00:32:51,999
because these are my business card, I

589
00:32:52,009 --> 00:32:54,609
inferior quality, for sure.

590
00:32:55,619 --> 00:32:55,869
Yeah.

591
00:32:55,869 --> 00:32:56,539
There's some old

592
00:32:56,679 --> 00:32:59,979
No, listen, let's make, let's make it into, uh,

593
00:33:00,379 --> 00:33:00,649
here.

594
00:33:01,149 --> 00:33:02,019
yeah, what does it

595
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:02,929
What does that mean?

596
00:33:04,479 --> 00:33:06,719
The I on the top supposedly means something.

597
00:33:06,719 --> 00:33:07,929
Let's not get into that today.

598
00:33:07,929 --> 00:33:08,999
No, no, no, we

599
00:33:09,059 --> 00:33:11,519
says, it doesn't say in God we verify.

600
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,519
It says in God we trust for some reason.

601
00:33:13,529 --> 00:33:15,469
And this is what we do now, Knut.

602
00:33:15,989 --> 00:33:17,309
Put it here and we say,

603
00:33:17,524 --> 00:33:19,924
Yeah,

604
00:33:20,529 --> 00:33:22,169
buy Bitcoin, we trust.

605
00:33:22,184 --> 00:33:23,874
put stamps on dollars.

606
00:33:23,904 --> 00:33:25,324
Don't put them on Bitcoin.

607
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:28,129
See,

608
00:33:28,134 --> 00:33:29,294
do it the other way around.

609
00:33:29,539 --> 00:33:29,849
and

610
00:33:30,104 --> 00:33:30,744
just mean.

611
00:33:31,889 --> 00:33:33,319
then you can do it.

612
00:33:35,964 --> 00:33:36,644
There we go.

613
00:33:38,614 --> 00:33:40,144
Yeah, here we go.

614
00:33:40,144 --> 00:33:41,524
Luke, you want to, you want to try?

615
00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:42,944
You want one on your own?

616
00:33:43,734 --> 00:33:44,714
Here, stamp away.

617
00:33:46,544 --> 00:33:47,614
This is fantastic.

618
00:33:47,969 --> 00:33:48,879
Well,

619
00:33:49,014 --> 00:33:51,324
For those of you listening to the show, we are right now

620
00:33:51,354 --> 00:33:53,254
putting stamps on US dollars.

621
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:54,469
yes.

622
00:33:56,239 --> 00:33:56,689
Yeah.

623
00:33:56,854 --> 00:33:58,284
We're making our ordinals.

624
00:33:58,909 --> 00:34:00,599
We're printing, we're printing money.

625
00:34:00,724 --> 00:34:02,314
Yeah, there you go.

626
00:34:02,644 --> 00:34:05,634
So it's, it's useful.

627
00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:11,454
It's a tool that's loo that's losing its usefulness as

628
00:34:11,464 --> 00:34:13,994
more and more people realize.

629
00:34:14,534 --> 00:34:15,784
What they're doing to us.

630
00:34:15,814 --> 00:34:18,494
And as I said, it's a cycle of life.

631
00:34:18,574 --> 00:34:20,834
Like the same thing happened in Roman Empire.

632
00:34:20,884 --> 00:34:23,534
Like it was, it was, yeah, a hundred percent gold.

633
00:34:23,534 --> 00:34:23,774
Yeah.

634
00:34:23,774 --> 00:34:31,954
But then it's like 90%, 80, and you just want to recognize when you're being played

635
00:34:32,364 --> 00:34:41,404
so you can exit, exit the scam and enter into, yeah, new, uh, You know, new, new

636
00:34:41,424 --> 00:34:45,074
paradigm, new, like something that's growing, not something that's dying.

637
00:34:45,549 --> 00:34:49,859
if, if you own the house and someone wrote a paper saying I own the

638
00:34:49,859 --> 00:34:52,139
house now, you wouldn't fall for it.

639
00:34:52,569 --> 00:34:57,609
But that is exactly what this is saying that these bills are claims on your stuff

640
00:34:57,709 --> 00:35:01,919
that someone is conjuring out of thin air and they can exchange it for the stuff

641
00:35:01,949 --> 00:35:07,299
you have even though they just made it up.

642
00:35:07,554 --> 00:35:15,184
No, uh, listen, I, on behalf of all of us living in the United States

643
00:35:15,184 --> 00:35:21,894
of America, like, sorry guys, I, um, the biggest export of U.

644
00:35:21,894 --> 00:35:22,374
S.

645
00:35:22,904 --> 00:35:23,954
is inflation.

646
00:35:24,514 --> 00:35:28,644
Like every time we decide there in the U.

647
00:35:28,644 --> 00:35:29,004
S.

648
00:35:29,034 --> 00:35:32,754
to be like, Oh, listen, we need, we need, we really need this government program.

649
00:35:32,774 --> 00:35:37,274
Like we need to increase defense spending because America is so threatened

650
00:35:37,444 --> 00:35:39,724
militarily by the rest of the world.

651
00:35:39,974 --> 00:35:41,744
So sorry, Knut, like we just need to

652
00:35:41,869 --> 00:35:42,569
No, no, no, I

653
00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:43,394
you won't attack

654
00:35:43,409 --> 00:35:44,729
it's, it's not salad.

655
00:35:44,939 --> 00:35:45,619
That's for sure.

656
00:35:45,619 --> 00:35:46,449
It's not salad.

657
00:35:46,714 --> 00:35:54,649
So, so then We print a bunch of these and, uh, someone that's holding

658
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,149
us dollars, like outside of us, suddenly they have 5 percent less,

659
00:35:59,149 --> 00:36:01,289
like, or 10 percent in real value.

660
00:36:01,299 --> 00:36:04,449
Like there, there is some grant, poor grandma that was like

661
00:36:04,449 --> 00:36:08,999
saving in local currency, then switch to, you know, us dollars.

662
00:36:09,049 --> 00:36:09,979
Oh, sorry, grandma.

663
00:36:10,279 --> 00:36:11,709
Like you're part of the.

664
00:36:12,264 --> 00:36:19,044
Like this theft that's happening and nothing you can do, like, it's not nothing

665
00:36:19,044 --> 00:36:20,694
against you, but nothing you can do.

666
00:36:20,714 --> 00:36:24,994
Like, thankfully grandma can now switch to Bitcoin and there

667
00:36:24,994 --> 00:36:28,314
is no one that can do that.

668
00:36:28,604 --> 00:36:33,234
So hopefully we get as many people on Bitcoin standard as possible.

669
00:36:33,449 --> 00:36:38,999
In Scandinavia, where I grew up, there's a, uh, like, there's a

670
00:36:38,999 --> 00:36:43,189
tendency of the people to view Americans as evil capitalists.

671
00:36:43,794 --> 00:36:47,744
Uh, and that capitalism is the root cause of all these problems.

672
00:36:48,034 --> 00:36:49,084
Oh yeah, of

673
00:36:49,214 --> 00:36:54,884
so, so, during the Trump era, uh, or the previous Trump era, the, uh, the

674
00:36:55,054 --> 00:37:00,944
narrative was that he was, like, the most evil capitalist, and, like, the, the,

675
00:37:00,974 --> 00:37:06,474
the epiphany of, like, the Uncle Scrooge character, like, the, the, uh, like, the

676
00:37:06,629 --> 00:37:07,449
Another uncle.

677
00:37:07,689 --> 00:37:08,169
Another

678
00:37:08,224 --> 00:37:08,624
another

679
00:37:09,024 --> 00:37:09,245
No, no.

680
00:37:09,339 --> 00:37:10,239
Let's listen.

681
00:37:10,299 --> 00:37:12,819
That's the real UN uncle network.

682
00:37:13,169 --> 00:37:14,629
Like Yeah.

683
00:37:14,689 --> 00:37:17,029
That will be D-U-N-D-U-N

684
00:37:18,134 --> 00:37:24,329
Okay, but anyway Anyway, so, so, when Trump gave out a thousand dollars

685
00:37:24,329 --> 00:37:26,349
to each and every American citizen

686
00:37:26,709 --> 00:37:27,129
oh yeah.

687
00:37:27,129 --> 00:37:28,359
Sorry about that guys.

688
00:37:28,589 --> 00:37:35,209
yeah, yeah, during COVID, uh, or NOVID, they, they didn't, uh, no one

689
00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:38,769
understood that what he was actually doing was pickpocketing everyone else

690
00:37:38,769 --> 00:37:43,499
on earth who wasn't American, because he conjures them out of, uh, thin

691
00:37:43,499 --> 00:37:46,769
air, and, uh, oil is priced on them.

692
00:37:47,029 --> 00:37:50,859
So, like, he's stealing everyone else's oil to pay for your

693
00:37:50,859 --> 00:37:53,689
hamburgers, like, and you can't have

694
00:37:53,724 --> 00:37:55,009
mean, we really needed it.

695
00:37:55,189 --> 00:37:58,289
it's not really hamburgers, it's nothing burgers, and you can't have a nothing

696
00:37:58,289 --> 00:38:00,579
burger without word salad, like, so,

697
00:38:01,339 --> 00:38:05,784
You wanna know the best part of it, like Warren Buffet also got those checks.

698
00:38:06,139 --> 00:38:06,899
Warren Buffet.

699
00:38:07,099 --> 00:38:11,699
The Warren Buffet, because he, he does the whole thing with like, not,

700
00:38:11,739 --> 00:38:16,629
um, uh, having a salary that's like nominal, like a hundred thousand

701
00:38:16,629 --> 00:38:18,389
a year, and then reports income.

702
00:38:18,689 --> 00:38:21,649
And it was like under threshold for those COVID checks.

703
00:38:21,759 --> 00:38:23,079
And there were multiple of them.

704
00:38:23,459 --> 00:38:31,689
So, so I, I tried to find the funny side in it, like how, how broken the system

705
00:38:31,689 --> 00:38:37,159
is, because once you start thinking about it and rationalizing, you're like,

706
00:38:37,524 --> 00:38:42,624
You can really get upset how irrational everything is and broken, or you're like,

707
00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:48,994
like, this is so retarded that like, it's kind of like those, those protests

708
00:38:49,014 --> 00:38:54,414
that happened in the U S and it's like a fiery, but mostly peaceful protests.

709
00:38:54,684 --> 00:38:57,374
Like everyone watching that video, like, you know, it was like, okay,

710
00:38:57,374 --> 00:39:04,664
this is wrong, even if I'm supporting the cause, but I, I always, I always,

711
00:39:04,664 --> 00:39:09,749
uh, you know, When the situation is that crazy, I try to unwind.

712
00:39:09,779 --> 00:39:12,699
I go to like, what is the demon behind?

713
00:39:13,189 --> 00:39:17,839
Because when it gets to that point, something is so broken that we need to

714
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:22,829
go layers deeper to find the real cause.

715
00:39:23,364 --> 00:39:29,634
And, uh, yeah, what's your, what you're describing just the ability of us to

716
00:39:29,634 --> 00:39:38,174
print money and fund, uh, these failing programs, uh, send, uh, money overseas

717
00:39:38,184 --> 00:39:40,644
for completely like crazy causes.

718
00:39:40,914 --> 00:39:42,254
There is a joke in us.

719
00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:42,484
Yeah.

720
00:39:42,484 --> 00:39:47,454
That you, you as government is taxing the poor in us to give to the rich

721
00:39:47,454 --> 00:39:52,484
outside of us with all the, like the Saudis and like the programs.

722
00:39:52,624 --> 00:39:55,974
taxing the poor everyone, everywhere else by doing inflation.

723
00:39:56,084 --> 00:39:57,554
Like, so they're taxing everyone.

724
00:39:57,644 --> 00:39:58,834
but it's not intentional.

725
00:39:58,854 --> 00:39:59,374
So sorry.

726
00:39:59,529 --> 00:40:04,674
No, no, it's Well, what it, what it definitely isn't is capitalism.

727
00:40:05,094 --> 00:40:05,614
Oh,

728
00:40:05,684 --> 00:40:07,804
It's socialism, like, at best.

729
00:40:07,824 --> 00:40:09,194
It's communism, I would say.

730
00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,164
Like, it's a planned, centrally planned economy.

731
00:40:12,164 --> 00:40:12,844
That's what it is.

732
00:40:13,164 --> 00:40:18,614
Hey, uh, those people, those people are just, they never grew out of phase.

733
00:40:18,654 --> 00:40:20,444
And, and I actually, like, I, I've.

734
00:40:21,089 --> 00:40:27,499
I have a lot of compassion for socialists and, uh, and people that, that continue

735
00:40:27,549 --> 00:40:33,689
to believe in those delusions because, uh, there is a great saying that, uh,

736
00:40:33,939 --> 00:40:39,724
you know, if, if you are, um, Especially in some kind of university, like we're

737
00:40:39,754 --> 00:40:44,044
talking to you students, like younger people, this is uncle talk now, like

738
00:40:44,084 --> 00:40:49,154
if you do not become like a socialist or even communist while you're at the

739
00:40:49,154 --> 00:40:54,674
university, you don't have heart, you know, but, but if you do not, like by

740
00:40:54,674 --> 00:40:57,934
the time you're 30, you don't get out of that delusion, like you don't have

741
00:40:57,944 --> 00:41:01,184
head, you're not rationally thinking.

742
00:41:01,844 --> 00:41:07,294
Because, again, I would argue that money is one of the best

743
00:41:07,414 --> 00:41:09,654
tools humanity has invented.

744
00:41:09,904 --> 00:41:10,064
Because

745
00:41:10,334 --> 00:41:10,984
If not the best.

746
00:41:11,554 --> 00:41:18,554
yes, because it allows pursuit of truth when used correctly.

747
00:41:18,984 --> 00:41:22,754
You have people like, Hey, will you do this for me?

748
00:41:22,754 --> 00:41:23,534
They're like, no.

749
00:41:23,674 --> 00:41:23,944
Okay.

750
00:41:23,984 --> 00:41:24,944
Will you do this for me?

751
00:41:24,944 --> 00:41:28,994
If I give you a hundred thousand dollars, there was going to, well, yes.

752
00:41:29,844 --> 00:41:37,824
And money when used properly allows you to uncover crazy truths.

753
00:41:37,914 --> 00:41:39,714
And I won't go into details.

754
00:41:39,714 --> 00:41:41,604
This is like uncle talk, private talk.

755
00:41:42,564 --> 00:41:45,734
But, um, the problem is that.

756
00:41:46,124 --> 00:41:49,954
Money that we have now, like this technology, this is where we should

757
00:41:49,954 --> 00:41:54,874
like take it off the table, like this fiat nonsense, fake money.

758
00:41:55,194 --> 00:41:58,564
And we go to new form of money, Bitcoin.

759
00:41:58,664 --> 00:41:58,844
Yeah.

760
00:42:00,684 --> 00:42:05,354
Yeah, that's, we got to talk more about that, but that's for me, like

761
00:42:05,374 --> 00:42:09,594
when people are like, Oh, capitalism is corrupt, money is corrupt.

762
00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:11,564
It's like, no, it's not corrupt.

763
00:42:11,614 --> 00:42:13,224
It's too efficient.

764
00:42:14,864 --> 00:42:15,714
There is.

765
00:42:15,964 --> 00:42:24,984
Scary part of like where very well run capitalist organization that

766
00:42:25,224 --> 00:42:28,514
produces phenomenal product prices.

767
00:42:28,514 --> 00:42:35,464
It like aggressively, like perfectly, and then takes value from people and then

768
00:42:35,494 --> 00:42:42,284
just takes, so I don't know, I, I would compare it even to like drug dealers.

769
00:42:43,014 --> 00:42:47,674
That's, that's, that's a scary part that I think repels a lot of people that are

770
00:42:47,674 --> 00:42:55,114
like good hearted, they're like, why, you know, can't we have a common this

771
00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:59,714
and that, but I would argue for those people that they should go more like not.

772
00:43:00,169 --> 00:43:05,549
Waste time attacking capitalism from their iPhones and all of that, but go

773
00:43:05,549 --> 00:43:10,729
towards commons, go towards nonprofit organizations, like even come to open

774
00:43:10,729 --> 00:43:16,149
source, you know, like, and find community there because you, you, you're then.

775
00:43:16,884 --> 00:43:18,304
You're not focused on money.

776
00:43:18,304 --> 00:43:22,514
You don't care if you will earn, you know, 10, 000, a hundred thousand, a million

777
00:43:22,514 --> 00:43:28,064
dollars a year, you care about your reputation, about sense of doing good.

778
00:43:28,664 --> 00:43:29,994
So do that.

779
00:43:30,004 --> 00:43:35,264
Don't waste time, like attacking capitalism or being like, money is evil.

780
00:43:35,264 --> 00:43:39,994
We got to live in communities where we're going to barter and trade like favors.

781
00:43:41,514 --> 00:43:45,114
In your opinion, is reputation a currency in itself?

782
00:43:45,634 --> 00:43:46,684
Oh, absolutely.

783
00:43:46,744 --> 00:43:50,754
I mean, not on this show because of.

784
00:43:51,084 --> 00:43:57,444
amount of money that I have or don't have, um, on this show because of my reputation.

785
00:43:57,454 --> 00:44:04,004
So yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's another form of currency

786
00:44:04,004 --> 00:44:06,574
and it's much better currency.

787
00:44:06,804 --> 00:44:07,494
Uh,

788
00:44:07,794 --> 00:44:10,204
Is it the currency, the real currency of the future?

789
00:44:10,224 --> 00:44:16,064
Is that like, because I think that Bitcoin and reputation go hand in hand,

790
00:44:16,074 --> 00:44:21,699
because it's a base layer of truth, so over time, Untruthful people, bad

791
00:44:21,699 --> 00:44:25,949
people will be weeded out because of their reputation getting destroyed.

792
00:44:25,949 --> 00:44:28,469
I mean, you can sell your soul, but you can only do it once.

793
00:44:28,469 --> 00:44:29,429
You can't get it back.

794
00:44:29,789 --> 00:44:31,199
There's no refund policy.

795
00:44:31,499 --> 00:44:33,269
we becoming communists now, Knut?

796
00:44:33,779 --> 00:44:36,819
So we'll have a central bureau of reputation, or?

797
00:44:36,939 --> 00:44:38,509
No, no, no, no, not at all.

798
00:44:38,509 --> 00:44:44,237
Are

799
00:44:46,269 --> 00:44:47,959
on Bitcoin standard.

800
00:44:49,869 --> 00:44:50,539
you communist?

801
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:51,849
Well, what do you mean standard?

802
00:44:51,869 --> 00:44:52,159
That's a

803
00:44:57,230 --> 00:44:58,537
a funny expression.

804
00:44:58,537 --> 00:44:59,843
Yeah, because This

805
00:45:00,271 --> 00:45:00,841
Hey look!

806
00:45:01,121 --> 00:45:02,711
Why did the chicken brush his teeth?

807
00:45:02,901 --> 00:45:03,561
Why, Knut?

808
00:45:03,791 --> 00:45:04,911
Do chickens even have teeth?

809
00:45:05,101 --> 00:45:07,491
To get to the bit box on the other side of the road!

810
00:45:07,791 --> 00:45:09,281
What a fantastic idea.

811
00:45:09,651 --> 00:45:12,871
The Bitbox is our favorite hardware wallet for a lot of reasons.

812
00:45:13,041 --> 00:45:15,201
It's easy to use, apparently also for chickens.

813
00:45:15,521 --> 00:45:18,331
Bitbox cares about your security and your privacy.

814
00:45:18,351 --> 00:45:21,531
They take measures to make sure they're not collecting more information

815
00:45:21,541 --> 00:45:23,161
about you than they need to.

816
00:45:23,231 --> 00:45:25,541
And they also have fantastic customer support.

817
00:45:25,571 --> 00:45:29,181
They get rave reviews, so if you have any issues with your Bitbox, or you don't know

818
00:45:29,181 --> 00:45:32,696
how to use it for some reason Then they can help you out and take care of you.

819
00:45:32,696 --> 00:45:33,346
So go to bitbox.

820
00:45:33,896 --> 00:45:39,556
swiss slash freedom or use code freedom for 5 percent off your bitbox right now.

821
00:45:40,386 --> 00:45:43,926
Hey Luke, what's the difference between a chickpea and a bitcoin advisor?

822
00:45:44,006 --> 00:45:44,726
What Knut?

823
00:45:45,046 --> 00:45:47,096
I never had a bitcoin advisor on my face.

824
00:45:47,706 --> 00:45:51,586
But you could have one in your face because we're Bitcoin Advisors.

825
00:45:51,746 --> 00:45:52,476
That's right, Knut.

826
00:45:52,626 --> 00:45:56,016
We're working with the Bitcoin Advisor and we're all about securing

827
00:45:56,016 --> 00:45:57,686
your Bitcoin for the long term.

828
00:45:57,876 --> 00:46:00,976
The Bitcoin Advisor has a collaborative multi sig solution

829
00:46:01,036 --> 00:46:04,296
so that you can secure your Bitcoin for the next 20 years and beyond.

830
00:46:04,711 --> 00:46:08,241
Even if you lose one of your keys or something happens where it's an

831
00:46:08,241 --> 00:46:12,101
inheritance situation, they've got you covered and we can help you get there.

832
00:46:12,221 --> 00:46:14,171
So, go to thebitcoinadvisor.

833
00:46:14,201 --> 00:46:18,511
com for more information or you can reach out to us and book a call so that we

834
00:46:18,521 --> 00:46:20,011
can explain everything to you ourselves.

835
00:46:20,311 --> 00:46:21,191
Doesn't that sound awesome?

836
00:46:21,531 --> 00:46:23,741
Sounds absolutely spectacular.

837
00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:26,641
It's basically boating accident insurance, isn't it?

838
00:46:26,971 --> 00:46:27,531
Exactly.

839
00:46:27,591 --> 00:46:29,681
Although, you know, boating accidents.

840
00:46:29,861 --> 00:46:33,971
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could, you could have boating accidents anyway.

841
00:46:34,001 --> 00:46:35,701
Like, I mean, whatever.

842
00:46:36,011 --> 00:46:37,121
Go to thebitcoinadvisor.

843
00:46:37,161 --> 00:46:38,051
com today.

844
00:46:38,741 --> 00:46:39,481
Do the things.

845
00:46:40,732 --> 00:46:43,902
All right, Luke, let's talk about Riga, why people should

846
00:46:43,902 --> 00:46:45,642
go to Riga this specific year.

847
00:46:45,852 --> 00:46:47,092
There is so much here.

848
00:46:47,302 --> 00:46:51,072
I mean, Riga Bitcoin Week this year is absolutely fantastic.

849
00:46:51,122 --> 00:46:55,202
It starts off with Noob Day and following Noob Day, our own

850
00:46:55,252 --> 00:46:59,252
Infinity Day party at the basement bar, which is just spectacular.

851
00:46:59,282 --> 00:47:01,712
I, and there's a rumor going around that it'll be some free

852
00:47:01,712 --> 00:47:03,042
drinks or, or, or something.

853
00:47:03,322 --> 00:47:04,192
So that's just great.

854
00:47:04,212 --> 00:47:07,772
And after that, it's the Freedom Unconference, which is a Nostr

855
00:47:07,772 --> 00:47:11,942
themed freedom couple of days before the actual Riga Baltic

856
00:47:11,942 --> 00:47:13,442
Hunting Badger Conference starts.

857
00:47:13,712 --> 00:47:15,852
And after that, of course, it's BTC Pay Server Day.

858
00:47:16,182 --> 00:47:18,792
And there are karaoke nights and official parties and whatnot.

859
00:47:19,142 --> 00:47:23,922
So come celebrate Infinity Day and the launch of The Inverse or Clown

860
00:47:23,922 --> 00:47:26,392
World, our new book, in Riga this year.

861
00:47:26,492 --> 00:47:29,462
Of course, 21st of August, use code FREEDOM for 10

862
00:47:29,462 --> 00:47:30,812
percent off your Riga ticket.

863
00:47:31,102 --> 00:47:31,832
Don't miss this.

864
00:47:32,232 --> 00:47:33,472
Couldn't have said it better myself.

865
00:47:33,542 --> 00:47:34,382
I have nothing to add.

866
00:47:34,942 --> 00:47:36,472
You don't need to, you don't need to add.

867
00:47:36,482 --> 00:47:37,412
This was the ad.

868
00:47:37,832 --> 00:47:38,312
Oh, okay.

869
00:47:39,112 --> 00:47:39,702
Back to the show.

870
00:47:40,216 --> 00:47:43,186
But this is a segway to Nostr.

871
00:47:43,506 --> 00:47:45,876
The actual decentralized

872
00:47:46,056 --> 00:47:46,676
segway?

873
00:47:46,676 --> 00:47:48,056
You mean like a segway?

874
00:47:48,106 --> 00:47:50,036
Segway, yeah, segway?

875
00:47:50,046 --> 00:47:53,996
the The actual, the

876
00:47:54,091 --> 00:47:54,781
The segments?

877
00:47:54,781 --> 00:47:57,221
Um

878
00:47:57,386 --> 00:48:02,246
reputation, uh, distributed reputation is the social graph on Nostr.

879
00:48:02,326 --> 00:48:02,696
Right?

880
00:48:02,936 --> 00:48:04,236
This is what we're learning.

881
00:48:04,246 --> 00:48:07,946
We've been Nostr deep diving a lot here in this session.

882
00:48:08,596 --> 00:48:09,306
Absolutely.

883
00:48:09,516 --> 00:48:13,926
So you gave a talk in the VIP lounge yesterday.

884
00:48:14,306 --> 00:48:15,456
Nostr something or other.

885
00:48:15,456 --> 00:48:16,576
I wasn't paying attention.

886
00:48:16,996 --> 00:48:17,336
yeah.

887
00:48:17,336 --> 00:48:19,186
Oh, you gave it.

888
00:48:19,546 --> 00:48:21,586
I was like, let me do it for you.

889
00:48:21,596 --> 00:48:26,056
Like the title was, uh, do Nostra apps need to be profitable?

890
00:48:26,326 --> 00:48:31,326
And for our listeners, I can DLDR the whole talk is like, no, Jack

891
00:48:31,326 --> 00:48:35,936
Dorsey is giving like the, all the money now, but they don't need to

892
00:48:35,936 --> 00:48:37,626
be profitable now in the future.

893
00:48:38,076 --> 00:48:44,256
I would say that they are profitable, that all acts are profitable to the,

894
00:48:44,256 --> 00:48:51,176
like, the, every entrepreneurial venture is, uh, has the goal of profit, but

895
00:48:51,206 --> 00:48:54,206
it depends on how you define profit because most people define it as

896
00:48:54,216 --> 00:48:56,826
something solely monetary, but it isn't.

897
00:48:57,376 --> 00:49:01,076
Profit can be, you know, good for your soul.

898
00:49:01,186 --> 00:49:02,026
That's profit.

899
00:49:02,126 --> 00:49:02,846
Like, uh,

900
00:49:03,046 --> 00:49:07,656
You, you, Knut, you're just, I, I, I'm gonna label you now, you're,

901
00:49:07,656 --> 00:49:11,086
you're like perfection extremist, yes,

902
00:49:11,586 --> 00:49:12,276
extremist?

903
00:49:12,626 --> 00:49:13,216
perfection

904
00:49:13,226 --> 00:49:16,046
I bet you my wife would disagree with that.

905
00:49:16,866 --> 00:49:17,326
Yeah.

906
00:49:17,666 --> 00:49:21,816
I think that's because you probably have set up your family

907
00:49:21,816 --> 00:49:24,086
like environment perfectly, so

908
00:49:24,156 --> 00:49:26,066
No, no, no, I haven't.

909
00:49:26,106 --> 00:49:26,986
with you, yeah.

910
00:49:27,076 --> 00:49:28,016
I've seen his house.

911
00:49:28,236 --> 00:49:29,536
He's not perfect.

912
00:49:29,571 --> 00:49:30,091
not?

913
00:49:32,201 --> 00:49:32,991
Oh my God.

914
00:49:35,211 --> 00:49:36,021
No, listen, you

915
00:49:36,086 --> 00:49:39,006
say you're the perfectionist, you have the perfect outfit.

916
00:49:39,141 --> 00:49:39,621
Yeah.

917
00:49:39,671 --> 00:49:40,141
Yeah.

918
00:49:40,301 --> 00:49:47,151
Like all of you listening, this is a, yeah, I'll have, uh, everyone

919
00:49:47,151 --> 00:49:50,971
listening, like you should, yeah, tune up and switch to the video

920
00:49:50,991 --> 00:49:52,891
don't think anyone is listening any longer.

921
00:49:52,891 --> 00:49:57,721
Like I think they all, they all, they all stopped.

922
00:49:58,416 --> 00:49:58,726
I

923
00:49:58,911 --> 00:50:00,111
to my Cormac instead.

924
00:50:00,226 --> 00:50:06,816
uh, yeah, they are this, they're listening from the point where you also jumped in.

925
00:50:06,816 --> 00:50:12,606
It's like a perfect segue because we created such a great point from

926
00:50:12,606 --> 00:50:16,206
which we can go in all the different direction in the conversation.

927
00:50:16,646 --> 00:50:20,746
So yeah, people are definitely listening, but I'm going to, I was going to tell

928
00:50:20,776 --> 00:50:22,976
if you're listening audio version.

929
00:50:23,206 --> 00:50:28,126
You need to switch to video version because obviously my perfection, right?

930
00:50:28,146 --> 00:50:30,756
Like that, but it wasn't the perfection.

931
00:50:30,816 --> 00:50:35,286
It will be, it will be now when I, uh,

932
00:50:35,821 --> 00:50:38,771
Oh, you've got the real deal here.

933
00:50:38,771 --> 00:50:39,071
Yeah.

934
00:50:39,071 --> 00:50:39,351
Yeah.

935
00:50:39,351 --> 00:50:40,131
Here we go.

936
00:50:41,206 --> 00:50:43,346
I put on, what is this?

937
00:50:43,346 --> 00:50:44,146
You can describe it,

938
00:50:44,191 --> 00:50:44,461
Yeah.

939
00:50:44,566 --> 00:50:45,206
in your sexy

940
00:50:45,581 --> 00:50:50,501
Rockstar is just pulling out a giant green dildo to his pocket and his.

941
00:50:50,676 --> 00:50:52,306
you need to switch to video version.

942
00:50:52,466 --> 00:50:52,566
Yeah.

943
00:50:52,566 --> 00:50:52,966
Okay.

944
00:50:52,986 --> 00:50:54,696
And, and what are you, no, no, dildo.

945
00:50:54,726 --> 00:50:55,646
And what am I doing?

946
00:50:56,556 --> 00:50:57,646
You're, you're right now.

947
00:50:57,646 --> 00:50:59,246
I can't say this.

948
00:51:00,806 --> 00:51:01,126
Okay.

949
00:51:01,126 --> 00:51:03,086
He's attaching a pin to his jacket.

950
00:51:03,756 --> 00:51:05,026
What does the pin say?

951
00:51:07,656 --> 00:51:07,866
Oh,

952
00:51:07,936 --> 00:51:12,816
It's a symbolic representation of the meme, everything divided by 21 million.

953
00:51:12,896 --> 00:51:13,246
Yes.

954
00:51:13,586 --> 00:51:16,716
It's an homage to Bitcoin's infinite potential.

955
00:51:17,126 --> 00:51:17,616
Boom.

956
00:51:17,956 --> 00:51:21,576
And I'm getting some sort of military equipment here.

957
00:51:23,426 --> 00:51:27,486
So, there is an orange dildo that I'm taking out,

958
00:51:27,896 --> 00:51:28,496
Yes.

959
00:51:29,406 --> 00:51:30,066
Yes.

960
00:51:30,396 --> 00:51:31,166
I'm, uh,

961
00:51:31,336 --> 00:51:33,526
We need a kids, kids disclaimer for the

962
00:51:33,646 --> 00:51:34,086
yes,

963
00:51:34,106 --> 00:51:35,046
rated R.

964
00:51:35,066 --> 00:51:35,786
yeah, and,

965
00:51:36,046 --> 00:51:36,846
our entire show

966
00:51:36,956 --> 00:51:37,626
and then I

967
00:51:37,686 --> 00:51:38,666
disclaimer on it, Knut.

968
00:51:39,331 --> 00:51:44,931
Oh yeah, I do not check the box on YouTube that says made for kids

969
00:51:45,276 --> 00:51:45,836
Okay,

970
00:51:45,916 --> 00:51:46,796
try this at home.

971
00:51:46,816 --> 00:51:48,826
And I'm giving the dildo to Knut

972
00:51:48,916 --> 00:51:49,096
Oh,

973
00:51:49,516 --> 00:51:52,606
he's, he's putting it on, like putting it

974
00:51:52,821 --> 00:51:53,551
his neck.

975
00:51:53,936 --> 00:51:54,366
Yeah.

976
00:51:54,416 --> 00:51:54,796
And,

977
00:51:55,356 --> 00:51:55,936
Yes,

978
00:51:55,986 --> 00:51:56,896
now he's putting it.

979
00:51:56,946 --> 00:51:57,436
Okay.

980
00:51:57,566 --> 00:51:59,256
it's here between my tits.

981
00:51:59,386 --> 00:52:00,216
oh, okay.

982
00:52:00,846 --> 00:52:04,636
Oh, I think people will switch to video version just to see like,

983
00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,216
okay, what the hell is going on?

984
00:52:08,216 --> 00:52:09,476
Yeah, we'll leave it at that.

985
00:52:09,826 --> 00:52:13,096
Let, let, that's no segue to, uh,

986
00:52:13,466 --> 00:52:15,896
witty segway, would that be a segwit?

987
00:52:16,576 --> 00:52:17,256
uh,

988
00:52:17,756 --> 00:52:19,416
Like short for, that is, uh,

989
00:52:19,586 --> 00:52:20,296
yes.

990
00:52:20,886 --> 00:52:21,246
Yes,

991
00:52:21,626 --> 00:52:22,016
so we're,

992
00:52:22,436 --> 00:52:23,426
think that is it.

993
00:52:23,726 --> 00:52:27,796
We already like dismantled communism, hopefully switch some of the kids,

994
00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:30,416
save them the years of their life.

995
00:52:31,196 --> 00:52:32,946
So, and now Nostr.

996
00:52:33,216 --> 00:52:34,766
yes, and brush your teeth, kids.

997
00:52:36,746 --> 00:52:37,236
Okay,

998
00:52:37,291 --> 00:52:38,101
It's important.

999
00:52:38,726 --> 00:52:39,696
did that come from?

1000
00:52:39,896 --> 00:52:42,546
No, yeah, we urge people to brush their teeth.

1001
00:52:43,096 --> 00:52:43,546
We're

1002
00:52:43,966 --> 00:52:44,726
a show thing.

1003
00:52:45,426 --> 00:52:47,046
with dental hygiene in general.

1004
00:52:47,541 --> 00:52:49,601
Or yeah, you can, you can wear a mask.

1005
00:52:49,836 --> 00:52:52,246
Yeah, yeah, if you don't have a toothbrush, you

1006
00:52:52,291 --> 00:52:55,841
It, it, it protects you from COVID and then also like bad breath.

1007
00:52:56,031 --> 00:52:56,341
Yeah.

1008
00:52:56,636 --> 00:53:04,226
Yeah, what is, okay, Nostr and BTC pay server, what is the, what is

1009
00:53:04,226 --> 00:53:07,856
the magic intersection point there?

1010
00:53:07,976 --> 00:53:11,736
Like what's, what's going on with Nostr and BTC pay server?

1011
00:53:11,736 --> 00:53:11,956
Like,

1012
00:53:11,961 --> 00:53:14,611
You might also have to explain what is a BTC pay survey, I don't

1013
00:53:14,611 --> 00:53:15,781
think we actually got there.

1014
00:53:15,861 --> 00:53:16,291
Yeah.

1015
00:53:16,496 --> 00:53:16,736
yeah,

1016
00:53:16,981 --> 00:53:20,601
Well, everyone knows, but it's filter, uh, masks, filter water as

1017
00:53:20,816 --> 00:53:21,906
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1018
00:53:26,411 --> 00:53:28,731
So the water can get through, but the COVID can't.

1019
00:53:29,096 --> 00:53:29,496
Yeah,

1020
00:53:29,886 --> 00:53:30,386
exactly.

1021
00:53:30,396 --> 00:53:30,596
Yeah.

1022
00:53:30,916 --> 00:53:36,926
like if there, if there is a COVID in water, like it also like filters, I mean,

1023
00:53:36,926 --> 00:53:43,556
you, you guys will joke about it, but, uh, during COVID hysteria, like I, I use

1024
00:53:43,556 --> 00:53:48,016
this on like airplane flights, they're like, sir, like pull up your mask.

1025
00:53:50,126 --> 00:53:53,486
So, so now I.

1026
00:53:54,236 --> 00:53:59,656
I don't know, man, like, um, before we get back to BTC pay server, I, I love

1027
00:53:59,666 --> 00:54:01,786
these philosophical questions because.

1028
00:54:02,821 --> 00:54:08,291
What I was saying, like, go through all the layers, is just, technology

1029
00:54:08,351 --> 00:54:15,091
is, is advancing so quickly, um, number of people on this planet increases,

1030
00:54:15,171 --> 00:54:20,221
like, viruses are evolving, like, you as individual, like, you're living

1031
00:54:20,281 --> 00:54:22,811
in increasingly hostile environment.

1032
00:54:23,341 --> 00:54:25,561
People are grasping for straws.

1033
00:54:26,166 --> 00:54:26,866
Paper straws.

1034
00:54:27,356 --> 00:54:32,116
paper straws, like, like any kind of straws, any kind of, uh, uh, you know,

1035
00:54:32,146 --> 00:54:38,006
crutch that we're talking Knut, because if you are individual on a Bitcoin

1036
00:54:38,016 --> 00:54:42,786
standard, if you have followed Knut's advice, when I retweet that tweet of

1037
00:54:42,786 --> 00:54:47,196
yours, like so many times, like, can you, can you say it like what the life pro

1038
00:54:47,196 --> 00:54:49,326
tip of Knut, what, what should you do?

1039
00:54:49,606 --> 00:54:54,436
Uh, yeah, my, my response to Jordan Peterson here is like one rule for life.

1040
00:54:55,506 --> 00:54:56,816
It's in capital letters.

1041
00:54:56,816 --> 00:54:58,656
It says, enjoy exclamation mark.

1042
00:54:59,046 --> 00:54:59,676
Enjoy.

1043
00:55:00,446 --> 00:55:00,916
That's it.

1044
00:55:00,966 --> 00:55:02,346
No, it's not about buy Bitcoin.

1045
00:55:03,406 --> 00:55:08,016
And, uh, that's the one that I referenced, how you said, just,

1046
00:55:10,586 --> 00:55:12,276
no, I'm going to take this over.

1047
00:55:13,146 --> 00:55:17,326
Knut, it's not enjoy, see, he's too focused on perfection.

1048
00:55:17,336 --> 00:55:23,306
His best advice, life pro tip was, take years worth of salary, well,

1049
00:55:23,316 --> 00:55:24,716
you said a month, but I think it's

1050
00:55:24,746 --> 00:55:25,486
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1051
00:55:25,486 --> 00:55:25,686
That

1052
00:55:25,796 --> 00:55:29,306
a year's worth of your income,

1053
00:55:29,576 --> 00:55:30,686
I said a month, I think.

1054
00:55:30,696 --> 00:55:31,006
Yeah.

1055
00:55:31,316 --> 00:55:34,466
but it should be a year really, and then buy bitcoin.

1056
00:55:35,831 --> 00:55:37,611
And don't touch it for

1057
00:55:38,166 --> 00:55:38,776
10 years.

1058
00:55:38,921 --> 00:55:44,151
10 years, buy no KYC, ideally, because that's the only Bitcoin,

1059
00:55:44,191 --> 00:55:49,641
KYC, Bitcoin is, is not, it's like it, it will be, hopefully it, it

1060
00:55:49,641 --> 00:55:51,291
becomes a fork, but we'll see.

1061
00:55:52,021 --> 00:55:52,541
Um,

1062
00:55:53,076 --> 00:55:54,496
It's like waxed sperm.

1063
00:55:54,496 --> 00:56:00,291
Yeah.

1064
00:56:01,841 --> 00:56:05,041
Don't touch it in 10 years, and then after 10 years, you get,

1065
00:56:05,081 --> 00:56:06,991
you're free to do whatever.

1066
00:56:07,701 --> 00:56:15,191
Because for those people, for like that flight attendant, she's under pressure.

1067
00:56:15,571 --> 00:56:19,871
They say, hey, I have this director, like, I want to keep my job.

1068
00:56:19,921 --> 00:56:21,501
I want to do the right thing.

1069
00:56:21,931 --> 00:56:23,141
I have my fears.

1070
00:56:23,141 --> 00:56:25,261
I have, you know, my hopes.

1071
00:56:25,641 --> 00:56:30,301
And it's just, As I say, those layers, you need to deconstruct them

1072
00:56:30,301 --> 00:56:32,171
and see that like system is broken.

1073
00:56:32,171 --> 00:56:36,761
System is putting us against each other in terrible situations

1074
00:56:36,971 --> 00:56:38,301
in which we shouldn't be.

1075
00:56:38,801 --> 00:56:41,241
Let's, let's remake the system.

1076
00:56:41,241 --> 00:56:43,171
Let's figure it out.

1077
00:56:43,191 --> 00:56:45,731
Like, and really solve the problem rather than.

1078
00:56:46,451 --> 00:56:51,651
antagonize each other and, uh, worry about Vaxx sperm or,

1079
00:56:53,851 --> 00:56:55,581
Knut, what, what are we going to do there?

1080
00:56:55,581 --> 00:56:58,481
I think that's really the question for this podcast.

1081
00:56:58,561 --> 00:57:01,531
Like, like, uh, should we get back to range marriages

1082
00:57:01,561 --> 00:57:03,831
where parents check if, like,

1083
00:57:04,191 --> 00:57:04,911
bum bum check

1084
00:57:05,491 --> 00:57:06,071
bum bum check?

1085
00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:13,661
sorry anyone was involved in that i couldn't resist yeah is that

1086
00:57:13,691 --> 00:57:18,351
oh that must be did the homeless people receive a covid check in

1087
00:57:19,081 --> 00:57:20,371
in US?

1088
00:57:20,621 --> 00:57:21,011
I mean,

1089
00:57:21,071 --> 00:57:26,611
if so was it was it a bum bum oh

1090
00:57:29,091 --> 00:57:30,111
sorry sorry yeah

1091
00:57:30,181 --> 00:57:34,371
give up, yeah, at this point, I'll just get, I'll

1092
00:57:34,531 --> 00:57:37,981
sorry rob we had to go there yeah at some point yeah

1093
00:57:38,001 --> 00:57:41,501
just get my COVID free water and, uh,

1094
00:57:44,531 --> 00:57:45,481
Alright, where were we?

1095
00:57:45,601 --> 00:57:46,261
Like, was there a

1096
00:57:46,371 --> 00:57:49,121
we were, we were, we were starting for Nostr.

1097
00:57:49,611 --> 00:57:52,721
yeah, I'm supposed to ask you questions, not the other way around.

1098
00:57:55,041 --> 00:58:01,881
Well, you have Bitcoin Uncle here, so I'm a source of wisdom and, uh, yeah,

1099
00:58:02,011 --> 00:58:04,721
like I can ask questions, and I did ask

1100
00:58:04,911 --> 00:58:07,561
a source of wisdom and uncle ness, and dollars.

1101
00:58:08,101 --> 00:58:12,231
and yeah, the UN, the real UN, Uncle Network.

1102
00:58:12,541 --> 00:58:14,051
Uncle Network, yes.

1103
00:58:14,091 --> 00:58:17,311
U N N, is that a, is that a TV station?

1104
00:58:17,331 --> 00:58:20,731
Like, Uncle, Uncle, Uncle Network Networks?

1105
00:58:20,901 --> 00:58:21,271
No,

1106
00:58:21,321 --> 00:58:22,351
Uncle News Network.

1107
00:58:22,661 --> 00:58:23,791
News Network, yes, yes.

1108
00:58:23,911 --> 00:58:30,001
that will be, uh, the, the United Nations, the Donkels Network Network.

1109
00:58:30,011 --> 00:58:30,271
Yeah.

1110
00:58:30,271 --> 00:58:30,451
Yeah.

1111
00:58:30,451 --> 00:58:31,881
That will be our CNN.

1112
00:58:32,201 --> 00:58:32,641
Yeah.

1113
00:58:32,731 --> 00:58:33,441
You, you and

1114
00:58:33,661 --> 00:58:34,461
Yeah, exactly.

1115
00:58:34,621 --> 00:58:35,011
yeah.

1116
00:58:35,031 --> 00:58:36,661
We got to get Don Lemon.

1117
00:58:36,811 --> 00:58:41,351
We'll like get him to interview all the people because he's so great at it.

1118
00:58:41,801 --> 00:58:42,681
Is he an uncle?

1119
00:58:43,461 --> 00:58:44,841
I mean, he's a retard.

1120
00:58:45,751 --> 00:58:56,071
Like, yeah, so, yeah, I mean, no, man, a dad, dad, guy, you just, you

1121
00:58:56,071 --> 00:59:05,241
just think about all the evil he has, yeah, spawned and created where

1122
00:59:05,931 --> 00:59:06,621
Who's that?

1123
00:59:06,981 --> 00:59:07,731
Don Lemon.

1124
00:59:08,101 --> 00:59:08,821
Don Lemon?

1125
00:59:09,481 --> 00:59:10,171
Is he a limey?

1126
00:59:10,431 --> 00:59:10,611
No,

1127
00:59:12,264 --> 00:59:15,611
can imagine, Knut does not watch CNN.

1128
00:59:15,941 --> 00:59:17,731
Oh, so, so who is

1129
00:59:17,751 --> 00:59:19,481
watched TV in, like, decades.

1130
00:59:19,856 --> 00:59:23,606
So Don Lemon is like this TV personality.

1131
00:59:23,606 --> 00:59:25,746
I mean, uh, you know, Tucker Carlson.

1132
00:59:25,881 --> 00:59:26,741
Yeah, I know Tucker

1133
00:59:26,896 --> 00:59:28,736
So yeah, I imagine retarded.

1134
00:59:28,916 --> 00:59:29,156
Yeah.

1135
00:59:29,576 --> 00:59:30,306
Carlson.

1136
00:59:30,646 --> 00:59:31,006
Yeah.

1137
00:59:31,246 --> 00:59:33,096
More, more like a little bit more.

1138
00:59:33,096 --> 00:59:33,276
Yeah.

1139
00:59:33,276 --> 00:59:33,476
Yeah.

1140
00:59:33,916 --> 00:59:39,866
The problem, the problem, the problem is with Don Lemon,

1141
00:59:39,946 --> 00:59:42,476
uh, raised the prominence by.

1142
00:59:42,811 --> 00:59:47,621
Like every show like makes it about some controversial topic and he

1143
00:59:47,621 --> 00:59:49,591
jumps on it and makes it worse.

1144
00:59:49,911 --> 00:59:56,661
And it's, it's, it's like people, people can't award their gaze from train wrecks.

1145
00:59:57,341 --> 00:59:59,831
Like if you're good at creating train wrecks.

1146
01:00:00,086 --> 01:00:05,516
You're going to get a lot of attention and it's like reality TV shows.

1147
01:00:05,556 --> 01:00:09,106
It's almost like, yeah, why should I go to zoo?

1148
01:00:09,146 --> 01:00:11,086
I can just watch this by TV.

1149
01:00:11,436 --> 01:00:12,446
Like that's what it is.

1150
01:00:12,446 --> 01:00:16,776
But, uh, it goes towards what cypherpunks are saying.

1151
01:00:16,776 --> 01:00:19,296
Like there will be all kinds of information.

1152
01:00:19,306 --> 01:00:23,356
There will be like all kinds of information manipulators

1153
01:00:23,656 --> 01:00:25,436
that are going to ride trends.

1154
01:00:25,966 --> 01:00:29,556
And the problem is that they're going to gain your attention.

1155
01:00:30,056 --> 01:00:32,206
They're going to like suck your intention.

1156
01:00:32,206 --> 01:00:36,996
They got a profit off of your attention and you will be like

1157
01:00:37,026 --> 01:00:42,866
left empty, exploited, uh, reprogrammed to, to be upset.

1158
01:00:42,866 --> 01:00:48,051
Like that's what Don Lemon did is like, he literally, Programmed, uh, millions

1159
01:00:48,051 --> 01:00:52,671
and millions of people into way of thinking through his shows to be like

1160
01:00:52,681 --> 01:00:55,401
upset and triggered about some stuff.

1161
01:00:55,671 --> 01:01:01,631
And then you look at him, especially his interview with Elon, where it's

1162
01:01:01,631 --> 01:01:05,416
terrible, like you're a terrible human being, like no one should be like you.

1163
01:01:05,946 --> 01:01:12,406
And you just, yeah, played off of the CNN's like viewership.

1164
01:01:12,706 --> 01:01:17,456
Luckily, CNN viewership is now going down and we are going through

1165
01:01:17,456 --> 01:01:22,546
alternatives, like people are still on Axe, Twitter, and hopefully on Nostr.

1166
01:01:23,126 --> 01:01:23,766
Where,

1167
01:01:24,096 --> 01:01:27,806
Nostr numbers are going up, FFS numbers are going up, and luckily

1168
01:01:27,806 --> 01:01:32,006
we are totally uncontroversial and have no agenda whatsoever.

1169
01:01:32,466 --> 01:01:40,166
well, listen, everyone, uh, everyone listening to this podcast is like,

1170
01:01:40,166 --> 01:01:42,986
okay, we are programming you as well.

1171
01:01:43,351 --> 01:01:45,281
But hopefully we are,

1172
01:01:45,786 --> 01:01:46,546
Deprogramming, I would say.

1173
01:01:47,801 --> 01:01:53,091
yeah, maybe like we're deprogramming you from, uh, like the whole group

1174
01:01:53,141 --> 01:01:58,501
communist thing, but we are programming you towards individual, like your

1175
01:01:58,501 --> 01:02:01,251
freedom, individual freedom, think

1176
01:02:01,426 --> 01:02:02,676
Increase your Freedom Footprint.

1177
01:02:02,736 --> 01:02:04,716
That's what we try to do.

1178
01:02:04,836 --> 01:02:05,506
Yes, but

1179
01:02:05,546 --> 01:02:06,436
Urge people to

1180
01:02:06,666 --> 01:02:13,226
that's where I would say you do not get to not be programmed.

1181
01:02:13,366 --> 01:02:16,306
You just find the best programming for you.

1182
01:02:16,356 --> 01:02:19,386
Going back to what you were saying, like, why are people

1183
01:02:19,386 --> 01:02:21,416
like, uh, Jewish or Christian or

1184
01:02:21,426 --> 01:02:22,816
Or American or Russian or

1185
01:02:22,896 --> 01:02:28,866
it's, it's one type of programming that's best possible in that situation,

1186
01:02:28,866 --> 01:02:30,846
but we need to go beyond that.

1187
01:02:31,501 --> 01:02:36,051
As we are now especially getting technology to go beyond that and let,

1188
01:02:36,061 --> 01:02:38,081
yeah, let us just go in that direction.

1189
01:02:38,466 --> 01:02:41,566
Yeah, and Bitcoin maximalism is the best firmware.

1190
01:02:41,666 --> 01:02:41,996
Like, yeah.

1191
01:02:42,081 --> 01:02:42,671
there we go.

1192
01:02:42,731 --> 01:02:43,041
Yeah.

1193
01:02:43,846 --> 01:02:44,476
That's it.

1194
01:02:44,666 --> 01:02:45,196
That's what,

1195
01:02:45,241 --> 01:02:46,541
Install that one.

1196
01:02:46,711 --> 01:02:49,911
And if it's anything else, we call you a shit coiner.

1197
01:02:49,921 --> 01:02:52,621
We, your reputation is destroyed.

1198
01:02:52,681 --> 01:02:53,021
Yeah.

1199
01:02:53,041 --> 01:02:53,341
Yeah.

1200
01:02:53,966 --> 01:02:54,246
Yeah.

1201
01:02:54,296 --> 01:02:54,666
Yeah.

1202
01:02:55,386 --> 01:02:56,436
Or even a retard.

1203
01:02:56,641 --> 01:02:57,261
Yeah.

1204
01:02:57,506 --> 01:02:59,386
Even though that's, that's more of a compliment.

1205
01:02:59,416 --> 01:03:00,426
I would say we call you an

1206
01:03:00,481 --> 01:03:01,461
no, no, no, no, no,

1207
01:03:02,006 --> 01:03:04,236
and, uh, like middle bell curve.

1208
01:03:04,861 --> 01:03:10,101
I said Don Lemon is a retard, like, I mean it like he, yeah, he's like literally.

1209
01:03:11,321 --> 01:03:11,561
Yeah.

1210
01:03:11,561 --> 01:03:13,521
He doesn't, he doesn't even understand

1211
01:03:13,641 --> 01:03:18,711
know that the word retard is not at all as offensive in Europe as it is in the US,

1212
01:03:18,966 --> 01:03:27,146
man, I, I am, uh, I'm well aware, but I always, when I'm, when I'm, uh, threatened

1213
01:03:27,146 --> 01:03:31,686
with being canceled, I'm like, okay, I'm, I'm an immigrant, I, in the U.

1214
01:03:31,686 --> 01:03:32,076
S.

1215
01:03:32,076 --> 01:03:32,946
and I don't

1216
01:03:33,021 --> 01:03:33,801
Me know nothing.

1217
01:03:33,876 --> 01:03:33,956
know.

1218
01:03:35,466 --> 01:03:39,916
No, it's we're, we're the, there are

1219
01:03:40,221 --> 01:03:41,601
know nothing, Uncle Snow.

1220
01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:43,016
that uncle,

1221
01:03:43,106 --> 01:03:45,836
You're giving away more information about yourself than you need to.

1222
01:03:45,836 --> 01:03:47,666
You're perfect American English.

1223
01:03:47,666 --> 01:03:49,096
I wouldn't, I wouldn't be able to

1224
01:03:49,251 --> 01:03:49,791
No, never.

1225
01:03:49,906 --> 01:03:50,336
never.

1226
01:03:50,356 --> 01:03:50,726
Yeah.

1227
01:03:50,786 --> 01:03:54,056
I, it's, man, it's been so disappointing.

1228
01:03:54,056 --> 01:03:59,716
I must say like, I, American culture, whatever people say, uh,

1229
01:03:59,726 --> 01:04:03,106
about the Americans, especially when they're, Oh, Americans are stupid.

1230
01:04:03,156 --> 01:04:05,636
I'm like, no, they're practical.

1231
01:04:06,086 --> 01:04:07,606
They don't care about.

1232
01:04:08,156 --> 01:04:12,146
Other stuff, but whatever people say about the American culture, like you can't

1233
01:04:12,606 --> 01:04:20,326
argue with Rambo and Terminator movies and yeah, and, and like, uh, Rolling

1234
01:04:20,346 --> 01:04:22,766
Stones and like all the good bands and

1235
01:04:22,861 --> 01:04:24,236
Rolling Stone's are British though, but,

1236
01:04:24,356 --> 01:04:25,956
well, fuck, there we go.

1237
01:04:25,956 --> 01:04:26,476
There I go.

1238
01:04:26,841 --> 01:04:27,611
Uh,

1239
01:04:27,936 --> 01:04:29,316
But . No, like

1240
01:04:29,351 --> 01:04:35,731
I'm trying to find out what is the American music of, uh, like, 1970s.

1241
01:04:38,571 --> 01:04:44,161
Man, I, I gotta, uh, you gotta, you gotta collaborate with me here, but, uh,

1242
01:04:44,286 --> 01:04:45,166
Bruce Springsteen.

1243
01:04:45,286 --> 01:04:45,506
Bob

1244
01:04:45,671 --> 01:04:46,181
yeah.

1245
01:04:46,721 --> 01:04:47,351
This one.

1246
01:04:47,771 --> 01:04:48,431
Bob Dylan.

1247
01:04:48,886 --> 01:04:49,656
Dylan, yeah.

1248
01:04:51,091 --> 01:04:53,621
No, but, American

1249
01:04:53,676 --> 01:04:55,106
Prince, uh,

1250
01:04:55,666 --> 01:04:55,956
Yeah.

1251
01:04:56,286 --> 01:04:56,636
Elvis.

1252
01:04:57,366 --> 01:04:57,716
Elvis.

1253
01:04:58,176 --> 01:04:59,656
I'm not, are we hitting 70s?

1254
01:04:59,686 --> 01:05:00,836
I don't think we're hitting 70s at

1255
01:05:00,871 --> 01:05:03,831
Well, I mean, you can go eighties, you can go nineties, but I

1256
01:05:04,071 --> 01:05:04,281
what?

1257
01:05:04,281 --> 01:05:04,491
Wait, we.

1258
01:05:04,686 --> 01:05:09,516
Bon Jovi, Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, Motley Crue.

1259
01:05:10,431 --> 01:05:15,991
like in, uh, well, since two thousands, I don't want to invoke like any

1260
01:05:15,991 --> 01:05:20,311
specific dates because it's like so emotional for a lot of people, but I

1261
01:05:20,531 --> 01:05:23,401
think the last, especially 10 years.

1262
01:05:24,056 --> 01:05:26,406
I mean, like, so terrible.

1263
01:05:27,166 --> 01:05:32,566
And me, as, as immigrant to US, like, I was really like, especially

1264
01:05:32,566 --> 01:05:34,026
Terminator, I loved the movie.

1265
01:05:34,276 --> 01:05:37,896
Like, I, I was, yeah, I'm going to go to US, I'll go to like,

1266
01:05:37,906 --> 01:05:40,506
cinema, I'll, uh, enjoy it.

1267
01:05:40,506 --> 01:05:44,196
Like, like, you know, American Dream, like that, that, that bit,

1268
01:05:44,326 --> 01:05:48,956
oh, you go to America, you like self actualize, you become rich.

1269
01:05:49,426 --> 01:05:51,076
You do plastic surgery,

1270
01:05:51,466 --> 01:05:53,396
Yeah, like, actually I need to do that.

1271
01:05:53,416 --> 01:05:56,656
Yeah, I did most, yeah, all of it before.

1272
01:05:57,016 --> 01:06:02,106
But I, I imagine all of that, I immigrate to US, and it's like, no, if

1273
01:06:02,156 --> 01:06:03,806
you say this thing, you're cancelled.

1274
01:06:03,966 --> 01:06:04,176
Yeah.

1275
01:06:05,416 --> 01:06:05,786
Like

1276
01:06:05,886 --> 01:06:09,416
the latest Terminator, the Terminator is trans and you have to use pronouns and

1277
01:06:09,468 --> 01:06:09,918
It's

1278
01:06:10,163 --> 01:06:10,823
I'll be black

1279
01:06:13,672 --> 01:06:15,782
you're just having bangers on this show.

1280
01:06:16,082 --> 01:06:18,992
Like, you're crushing it.

1281
01:06:19,892 --> 01:06:21,022
Inspired by uncle.

1282
01:06:21,022 --> 01:06:22,192
But no, it's the whole thing.

1283
01:06:22,192 --> 01:06:26,502
Like, you immigrate, immigrate to US and it's like, oh, you're a white male.

1284
01:06:27,262 --> 01:06:28,052
Wait, what?

1285
01:06:29,477 --> 01:06:31,587
Yeah, yeah, I've had to fill out that form.

1286
01:06:31,587 --> 01:06:35,877
It's like, Are you Caucasian or black or what the fuck are you talking about?

1287
01:06:35,877 --> 01:06:37,317
Why do you need this information?

1288
01:06:37,317 --> 01:06:37,947
And like,

1289
01:06:38,202 --> 01:06:40,812
they actually, they're like laws.

1290
01:06:41,242 --> 01:06:45,332
Where they need to know your race to ensure

1291
01:06:45,427 --> 01:06:47,907
I don't have a race, I'm a human being, like,

1292
01:06:48,102 --> 01:06:48,732
no, no, no, no.

1293
01:06:48,742 --> 01:06:54,252
Listen, they're collecting that data so that they ensure they're not racist.

1294
01:06:54,262 --> 01:06:57,332
It's, it's like, they need to be racist in order to not to be

1295
01:06:57,517 --> 01:06:58,287
anti racist.

1296
01:06:58,647 --> 01:07:02,697
You have, like, this is, it's just two sides of the same problem.

1297
01:07:02,707 --> 01:07:05,287
Like, not being racist is not caring about race.

1298
01:07:05,327 --> 01:07:07,817
That's literally what not being racist is.

1299
01:07:08,267 --> 01:07:12,487
As soon as you start caring what fucking race people are, you're a fucking racist.

1300
01:07:12,727 --> 01:07:13,717
It's as simple as that.

1301
01:07:13,737 --> 01:07:17,117
And we were so close to that point 90s.

1302
01:07:17,217 --> 01:07:18,777
People really didn't give a shit.

1303
01:07:19,047 --> 01:07:20,137
Kids don't give a shit.

1304
01:07:20,752 --> 01:07:23,502
And now we're, now we're back to racism, it seems.

1305
01:07:23,812 --> 01:07:24,802
Everyone cares.

1306
01:07:25,042 --> 01:07:25,082
Sorry.

1307
01:07:25,282 --> 01:07:29,182
Sorry, Knut, I mean, you know the whole thing, like, uh, you

1308
01:07:29,182 --> 01:07:31,012
just put anti in front of it.

1309
01:07:31,272 --> 01:07:32,632
So, yeah, it's like,

1310
01:07:32,872 --> 01:07:33,022
the

1311
01:07:33,772 --> 01:07:34,002
you're

1312
01:07:34,232 --> 01:07:34,972
side of the coin.

1313
01:07:35,172 --> 01:07:39,392
it's like, you're Antifa, you can't be fascist, like, so,

1314
01:07:39,732 --> 01:07:42,742
the truth is that it's just the other, the flip side of fascism.

1315
01:07:42,742 --> 01:07:43,502
It's another type of

1316
01:07:43,732 --> 01:07:47,942
no, no, no, they're anti fascist, like, they're Antifa, yeah,

1317
01:07:48,092 --> 01:07:48,422
Yeah,

1318
01:07:48,422 --> 01:07:49,442
worse than fascism.

1319
01:07:49,882 --> 01:07:50,502
Yeah.

1320
01:07:50,952 --> 01:07:51,122
dude.

1321
01:07:51,132 --> 01:07:52,942
might have some good points compared to Antifa.

1322
01:07:53,414 --> 01:07:54,237
Yeah.

1323
01:07:54,388 --> 01:07:55,061
Fascism.

1324
01:07:55,472 --> 01:07:56,482
like, like what?

1325
01:07:57,072 --> 01:07:57,582
How about

1326
01:07:57,752 --> 01:07:58,062
It was a

1327
01:07:58,392 --> 01:07:59,562
How about fashionista?

1328
01:08:01,092 --> 01:08:02,122
We'll get Svetsi to come

1329
01:08:02,312 --> 01:08:02,552
Yeah.

1330
01:08:02,552 --> 01:08:02,762
Yeah.

1331
01:08:02,762 --> 01:08:04,142
And, and think, yeah.

1332
01:08:04,142 --> 01:08:09,132
We'll, we'll interview him about, uh, fashion, uh, and what's in fashion

1333
01:08:09,152 --> 01:08:12,222
Now, now, listen, now he's trying to repair your joke.

1334
01:08:12,282 --> 01:08:13,452
It's, it's so fun.

1335
01:08:14,299 --> 01:08:14,519
I'm,

1336
01:08:14,824 --> 01:08:16,914
I'm allowed to go a little too far every once in a while,

1337
01:08:16,914 --> 01:08:18,184
considering Knut does it all the

1338
01:08:18,414 --> 01:08:19,104
Like far

1339
01:08:19,414 --> 01:08:20,194
I never go too

1340
01:08:20,224 --> 01:08:20,624
yeah.

1341
01:08:20,764 --> 01:08:21,104
Yeah.

1342
01:08:21,474 --> 01:08:22,384
Or far right.

1343
01:08:22,424 --> 01:08:22,844
Where are you

1344
01:08:22,964 --> 01:08:23,714
Yeah, yeah.

1345
01:08:24,124 --> 01:08:24,282
Yeah.

1346
01:08:24,384 --> 01:08:25,014
Far left.

1347
01:08:25,074 --> 01:08:25,884
Let's go far

1348
01:08:26,084 --> 01:08:27,675
I'd rather go far right than far wrong.

1349
01:08:28,554 --> 01:08:29,594
Let's just call it that.

1350
01:08:29,784 --> 01:08:30,924
Oh, that's a good joke.

1351
01:08:31,204 --> 01:08:32,414
That's pretty good one.

1352
01:08:33,444 --> 01:08:36,449
So, uh, So, Nostr.

1353
01:08:36,844 --> 01:08:37,204
Yeah.

1354
01:08:37,374 --> 01:08:37,684
Yeah.

1355
01:08:37,684 --> 01:08:38,224
Nostr.

1356
01:08:38,224 --> 01:08:38,664
Where were we?

1357
01:08:38,674 --> 01:08:39,214
Where were we?

1358
01:08:39,214 --> 01:08:39,734
Nostr.

1359
01:08:40,874 --> 01:08:41,684
Get on Nostr.

1360
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:45,489
Yes, yeah, all the fascists are already there.

1361
01:08:49,069 --> 01:08:51,809
They will tell you about the good points of fascism.

1362
01:08:51,809 --> 01:08:55,539
Oh my god, this, we're like, we're just having a great as jokes because

1363
01:08:55,689 --> 01:08:57,789
this actually is very relevant.

1364
01:08:57,949 --> 01:09:02,319
worst pitch for Nostr, though, which everyone keeps regurgitating, is that

1365
01:09:02,549 --> 01:09:05,719
Oh, it's so good because everyone's friendly and there's no drama.

1366
01:09:06,179 --> 01:09:08,249
I mean, that's why I'm on Twitter in the first

1367
01:09:08,339 --> 01:09:08,929
yeah, yeah,

1368
01:09:08,939 --> 01:09:10,349
what do you mean no drama?

1369
01:09:10,349 --> 01:09:12,309
What am I going to do with this social network?

1370
01:09:12,659 --> 01:09:12,819
yeah.

1371
01:09:13,339 --> 01:09:15,779
If no one's wrong on the internet, what's the point?

1372
01:09:15,789 --> 01:09:16,089
Like,

1373
01:09:17,024 --> 01:09:17,754
Hi Giacomo.

1374
01:09:18,589 --> 01:09:19,389
yeah, exactly.

1375
01:09:19,389 --> 01:09:20,089
Hi, Giacomo.

1376
01:09:20,214 --> 01:09:20,814
Giacomo.

1377
01:09:21,324 --> 01:09:24,404
No, I, uh, but there are Nostr dramas.

1378
01:09:24,434 --> 01:09:27,664
There are like, uh, and trans, when everyone is a Dan.

1379
01:09:28,584 --> 01:09:29,514
Yeah, you saw that.

1380
01:09:29,594 --> 01:09:30,374
Yeah, Dan.

1381
01:09:30,384 --> 01:09:31,454
You missed that.

1382
01:09:31,904 --> 01:09:32,904
Or Fiat Jeff.

1383
01:09:33,224 --> 01:09:34,144
Yeah, everyone is now

1384
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:35,189
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1385
01:09:35,644 --> 01:09:40,124
But I know Jeff doesn't want to talk about his current predicament, it's all avoided.

1386
01:09:40,614 --> 01:09:49,324
Um, but with Dan, there was this moment where, uh, who, who mentioned, I think

1387
01:09:49,324 --> 01:09:54,344
it was Semisol, he mentioned like how there are like so many Dans on there.

1388
01:09:54,634 --> 01:10:02,224
And then, uh, GG brought in, uh, his idea that there should be, uh, Only Dans, the

1389
01:10:02,234 --> 01:10:05,964
relay where only Dans have access to post.

1390
01:10:06,564 --> 01:10:06,974
Yeah.

1391
01:10:07,154 --> 01:10:13,894
And, and then Jack Dorsey just renamed him to Dan and everyone jumped on the

1392
01:10:13,894 --> 01:10:21,569
trend and everyone was a Dan on, on Nostr, which, which is already, Tagging on Nostr

1393
01:10:21,569 --> 01:10:23,729
and most clients is completely broken.

1394
01:10:23,759 --> 01:10:28,729
Like you can't add to anyone, like there's so many terrible results.

1395
01:10:29,129 --> 01:10:32,949
And then when everyone is Dan, yeah, good, good luck

1396
01:10:33,029 --> 01:10:35,069
have you heard of the, the, the.

1397
01:10:35,894 --> 01:10:38,894
International Bob Convention in, in California.

1398
01:10:39,764 --> 01:10:43,484
Apparently there's a gathering of all the bobs in the us.

1399
01:10:43,559 --> 01:10:45,339
should do that for Benz and Bitcoin.

1400
01:10:45,519 --> 01:10:45,964
we should.

1401
01:10:46,024 --> 01:10:47,284
Uh, I think they already do.

1402
01:10:47,284 --> 01:10:52,144
They have t-shirts and stuff, but the Bobs like, it's 40,000 Bobs in one spot.

1403
01:10:52,204 --> 01:10:55,804
Imagine losing your friend there and trying to Hey Bob, and like

1404
01:10:57,034 --> 01:10:59,094
Well, I actually have a solution for that.

1405
01:10:59,094 --> 01:11:01,024
I have a friend, Bob, yeah, yeah.

1406
01:11:01,024 --> 01:11:01,774
Bob Tank.

1407
01:11:01,774 --> 01:11:05,914
I, I'm a big Bob fan, especially after Strike because we

1408
01:11:05,924 --> 01:11:07,444
had this guy, Bob Scully.

1409
01:11:08,374 --> 01:11:08,744
But

1410
01:11:08,794 --> 01:11:09,184
show.

1411
01:11:09,184 --> 01:11:09,964
Show Bobs

1412
01:11:10,244 --> 01:11:13,784
yeah, but, but here is the thing, like his name is something like.

1413
01:11:14,704 --> 01:11:15,984
He's like, hey, I'm Bob.

1414
01:11:16,014 --> 01:11:19,334
It's like the craziest thing because it's such a simple name.

1415
01:11:19,394 --> 01:11:20,454
He's like, hi, Bob.

1416
01:11:20,454 --> 01:11:25,644
It's like a homeless person that's getting like the check, like dum dum check.

1417
01:11:25,654 --> 01:11:25,964
Yeah.

1418
01:11:25,964 --> 01:11:28,234
The bum bum

1419
01:11:28,614 --> 01:11:28,974
and Bob.

1420
01:11:28,974 --> 01:11:29,544
Bob, check.

1421
01:11:29,764 --> 01:11:30,674
Yes.

1422
01:11:33,234 --> 01:11:33,734
So it's like,

1423
01:11:33,894 --> 01:11:36,034
You can get the check between your bobs, like

1424
01:11:39,044 --> 01:11:40,384
That's where I usually put them.

1425
01:11:40,664 --> 01:11:44,874
I can't wait to see what's the title of this show, like, we had too much fun,

1426
01:11:44,894 --> 01:11:48,594
like, and jokes, and it's, like, some jokes were really good, but getting

1427
01:11:48,594 --> 01:11:55,354
to the, now it's the joke on Bob, his real name was, like, Robert J.

1428
01:11:55,634 --> 01:12:03,014
Scully III, but it's like, hey, I'm Bob, and, uh, yeah, so, if I go to

1429
01:12:03,014 --> 01:12:06,554
a Bob convention, I need to find him, I would just be like, Robert

1430
01:12:06,834 --> 01:12:10,354
III, and, yeah, he would answer.

1431
01:12:11,544 --> 01:12:13,774
Yeah, but you can use people's last names, guys.

1432
01:12:14,464 --> 01:12:16,734
Oh, oh, oh my god,

1433
01:12:16,804 --> 01:12:17,274
Oh.

1434
01:12:17,714 --> 01:12:18,474
Never thought of that.

1435
01:12:19,274 --> 01:12:19,654
yeah,

1436
01:12:21,149 --> 01:12:23,119
So why is anonymity important?

1437
01:12:23,799 --> 01:12:26,629
no man, we need to finish all the Dance and Nostr.

1438
01:12:26,839 --> 01:12:27,539
for fuck's sake.

1439
01:12:27,779 --> 01:12:28,069
Yeah, yeah,

1440
01:12:28,169 --> 01:12:28,459
yeah.

1441
01:12:29,769 --> 01:12:31,659
We're in the middle of something here, man.

1442
01:12:31,809 --> 01:12:32,169
no, no.

1443
01:12:32,179 --> 01:12:33,349
Stop interrupting.

1444
01:12:35,569 --> 01:12:38,139
Then we need to, then we need to repair the joke.

1445
01:12:38,189 --> 01:12:38,619
Yeah.

1446
01:12:39,049 --> 01:12:40,299
We'll keep that

1447
01:12:40,594 --> 01:12:41,154
We'll use a

1448
01:12:41,269 --> 01:12:41,799
it out?

1449
01:12:42,004 --> 01:12:42,554
No.

1450
01:12:42,879 --> 01:12:44,149
No, it's like, boom.

1451
01:12:45,024 --> 01:12:47,214
We'll probably cut out the whole episode to be honest.

1452
01:12:49,699 --> 01:12:55,569
Just for private collection, because that's, that's why anonymity is really

1453
01:12:55,789 --> 01:12:59,269
like important is some knowledge.

1454
01:12:59,729 --> 01:13:05,079
It's too great to be, like, publicly disseminated.

1455
01:13:05,844 --> 01:13:07,564
And like broadcast

1456
01:13:07,584 --> 01:13:07,864
Yeah.

1457
01:13:08,134 --> 01:13:14,874
So you need to consume it in a certain setting, in a certain context, and

1458
01:13:15,004 --> 01:13:17,554
only then can you truly enjoy it.

1459
01:13:17,724 --> 01:13:22,854
Especially if it becomes something you like repeat, repeat.

1460
01:13:22,854 --> 01:13:24,214
And then every time you.

1461
01:13:24,844 --> 01:13:28,884
You consume it, you find the new things to like about it.

1462
01:13:28,924 --> 01:13:37,224
And yeah, I, I think that's why anonymity, no, no expanding, but honestly, like

1463
01:13:37,244 --> 01:13:42,684
that's why I think anonymity and Nostr are so important is because

1464
01:13:42,694 --> 01:13:49,864
it allows you to easily do what I'm doing in my Bitcoin, uh, appearance.

1465
01:13:49,864 --> 01:13:51,994
Like I have a whole identity.

1466
01:13:52,854 --> 01:13:55,824
No, you're, you're, you're a superhero and you need to stay

1467
01:13:55,854 --> 01:13:57,584
anonymous because you're a superhero.

1468
01:13:57,624 --> 01:13:59,124
That's, that's what I thought.

1469
01:13:59,164 --> 01:14:01,084
Like, I mean, you have superpowers.

1470
01:14:01,569 --> 01:14:07,279
well, I do, I do have superpowers, which we will talk like

1471
01:14:07,624 --> 01:14:09,134
This is a superpower, isn't it?

1472
01:14:09,489 --> 01:14:11,849
all my, my gadgets, but

1473
01:14:12,194 --> 01:14:12,794
Utility

1474
01:14:12,879 --> 01:14:17,089
about like, I'm not doing it for any of this.

1475
01:14:17,149 --> 01:14:25,039
I'm doing it to keep my private life separate because I found

1476
01:14:25,069 --> 01:14:27,399
that that's really useful.

1477
01:14:27,399 --> 01:14:27,449
Okay.

1478
01:14:27,449 --> 01:14:27,469
Thanks.

1479
01:14:27,979 --> 01:14:34,069
Like this, this society is crazy enough and it's forcing you to be so many things.

1480
01:14:35,249 --> 01:14:37,629
You, you, you can't be that many things.

1481
01:14:37,629 --> 01:14:39,649
Like we're already living way too fast.

1482
01:14:39,649 --> 01:14:44,319
Like humans are not meant in my view for, for this speed of life.

1483
01:14:44,319 --> 01:14:47,249
And like, this is where we should let machines.

1484
01:14:47,714 --> 01:14:52,504
Take over and do things for us and we should relax, enjoy life.

1485
01:14:52,894 --> 01:14:58,534
Not, not like be doing, having experiences based on, Oh, I'm going to pay you a

1486
01:14:58,534 --> 01:15:02,024
hundred dollars or thousand dollars, but we are going to have experiences

1487
01:15:02,024 --> 01:15:03,814
together based on the reputation.

1488
01:15:04,854 --> 01:15:09,954
So that's where I think we should go as humanity with like, but let machines

1489
01:15:09,954 --> 01:15:12,409
do the work, but for, for us, like.

1490
01:15:12,809 --> 01:15:19,439
I found that having a separate identity really allows me to better do that

1491
01:15:19,459 --> 01:15:24,939
because you're not the same person when you're with your family, when you're

1492
01:15:25,109 --> 01:15:27,199
in business, when you're at church.

1493
01:15:27,389 --> 01:15:31,559
You're like different kind of person and you're like integrating.

1494
01:15:32,744 --> 01:15:36,214
Does this, is the speed of life, does that have limits?

1495
01:15:36,404 --> 01:15:38,144
Just like the speed of light, like,

1496
01:15:38,404 --> 01:15:38,904
Speedily.

1497
01:15:39,014 --> 01:15:40,604
I think it does.

1498
01:15:40,604 --> 01:15:45,384
Like, again, we're talking about that, uh, flight attendant that's trying to

1499
01:15:45,384 --> 01:15:49,674
get you to put mask on is being forced.

1500
01:15:49,884 --> 01:15:57,474
Like we're all in my view, being forced to live way faster than

1501
01:15:57,484 --> 01:16:01,164
we would like naturally live.

1502
01:16:02,274 --> 01:16:09,074
And, uh, I, I don't know what's the point where, where, like, people are already

1503
01:16:09,074 --> 01:16:13,254
breaking, people are already rioting, they're rebelling, but they don't know,

1504
01:16:13,254 --> 01:16:15,164
like, in which direction to go in it.

1505
01:16:15,424 --> 01:16:20,314
Maybe that's, that's the root cause, is like, you're forced to live too fast.

1506
01:16:20,344 --> 01:16:24,164
I think it's highly subjective though, I think many people like

1507
01:16:24,184 --> 01:16:27,584
to live fast, uh, including myself.

1508
01:16:27,584 --> 01:16:28,394
I like, like,

1509
01:16:29,134 --> 01:16:29,504
That's

1510
01:16:29,614 --> 01:16:33,944
was that quote, I burned the candle at both ends because it gave off such

1511
01:16:33,944 --> 01:16:37,444
a beautiful light, and like, there's something to that, to living life

1512
01:16:37,444 --> 01:16:40,064
to the full extent, and, and just.

1513
01:16:40,529 --> 01:16:47,639
Just step on the gas and just live because there's what's the alternative

1514
01:16:47,639 --> 01:16:49,629
like being being a vegetable?

1515
01:16:49,629 --> 01:16:50,817
Well,

1516
01:16:50,929 --> 01:16:57,199
there is only like being a vegetable or burning the, no, no, there is

1517
01:16:57,199 --> 01:17:01,199
a, there is a, like, hey, you, you, you want to do that for a week?

1518
01:17:01,209 --> 01:17:02,759
You want to do that for a month?

1519
01:17:02,829 --> 01:17:04,379
You want to do that for a year?

1520
01:17:04,599 --> 01:17:08,759
Like, you know, come with uncle to Serbia and, uh, let's

1521
01:17:08,759 --> 01:17:10,804
have our parties and, uh, But

1522
01:17:10,889 --> 01:17:12,249
that sounds like a great idea.

1523
01:17:12,599 --> 01:17:12,869
Yeah

1524
01:17:13,254 --> 01:17:19,614
but it's about, okay, do you want that, uh, for your family as well?

1525
01:17:21,254 --> 01:17:23,664
Uh, yeah, yes, yes.

1526
01:17:23,684 --> 01:17:25,224
That's, that's my point.

1527
01:17:25,224 --> 01:17:25,394
You

1528
01:17:25,649 --> 01:17:28,859
There's something to, like, harmony and balance and stuff, of course.

1529
01:17:28,899 --> 01:17:29,769
Of course there is.

1530
01:17:29,819 --> 01:17:36,069
And, you know, as much as I am a fan of, like, Prince, for instance,

1531
01:17:36,069 --> 01:17:40,339
who lived life to the fullest and then died an early death, I'm a fan

1532
01:17:40,339 --> 01:17:44,879
of Bill Murray, who seems to not give a shit and, like, take it easy.

1533
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:48,939
Like, you have to find your own path and what you like

1534
01:17:49,324 --> 01:17:54,409
no, that's the best thing about these artists, these, uh, rock stars.

1535
01:17:54,559 --> 01:18:01,669
Is it you look at someone and you can, you can think about and see their

1536
01:18:01,689 --> 01:18:07,239
path because, uh, but you can, you can see who, who are the ones that really

1537
01:18:07,269 --> 01:18:12,249
enjoy it and got it and who are the ones that are literally possessed.

1538
01:18:12,689 --> 01:18:20,239
To express art, you know, because, um, you look at Prince, you can tell he wasn't

1539
01:18:20,499 --> 01:18:20,769
no,

1540
01:18:21,269 --> 01:18:25,759
Like, uh, what's the name of, Amy, the British singer, White House.

1541
01:18:25,939 --> 01:18:31,879
You can see she's an expression of a lot of emotions, but she's not

1542
01:18:32,294 --> 01:18:38,234
That, no, no, that song, what was it, Back in Black, that song is like, it is a

1543
01:18:38,304 --> 01:18:42,954
simple song with a four chord structure, uh, four chord chord structure, and it's,

1544
01:18:42,994 --> 01:18:48,764
it's sort of a happy melody, but the lyrics are so fucking dark, that like, uh,

1545
01:18:48,814 --> 01:18:53,224
I, I mean, And I think there's something there with with music in particular that

1546
01:18:53,224 --> 01:18:59,204
when you have total darkness in balance with total like Catchy happy stuff.

1547
01:18:59,774 --> 01:19:01,904
I mean, there's something there.

1548
01:19:02,424 --> 01:19:05,054
Yeah, by the way, it was speaking of rock stars.

1549
01:19:05,139 --> 01:19:08,999
And I can, I can tell you what, what that is based on Uncle Wisdom.

1550
01:19:08,999 --> 01:19:10,249
You, you, you want to know?

1551
01:19:11,079 --> 01:19:11,629
It's sick.

1552
01:19:12,334 --> 01:19:19,844
Uh, a tree cannot grow to reach heaven unless its roots can grow to reach hell.

1553
01:19:20,334 --> 01:19:22,544
Yeah, unless it's roots are in literal

1554
01:19:22,824 --> 01:19:24,464
yeah, yeah.

1555
01:19:24,764 --> 01:19:32,524
And, uh, you, you need that duality and, uh, that's, that's where it comes from.

1556
01:19:32,524 --> 01:19:37,394
But, but again, like it's a question, maybe you want to taste that.

1557
01:19:37,769 --> 01:19:40,999
Yeah, maybe, but do you want to live in a nightmare?

1558
01:19:40,999 --> 01:19:44,809
Like I can, I can tell you from my experiences, like, like those

1559
01:19:44,859 --> 01:19:48,659
nightmares, uh, and that's where identities are also very useful.

1560
01:19:48,659 --> 01:19:54,999
Like, like I can be that identity for, for a month and I can then compress it

1561
01:19:55,029 --> 01:19:59,819
in some kind of a private note to myself and reread it, like really get that

1562
01:19:59,819 --> 01:20:02,049
experience, but I don't want to live.

1563
01:20:02,559 --> 01:20:04,119
In that experience.

1564
01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:07,809
I want, when I go to my private life, I want to, you know, take

1565
01:20:07,809 --> 01:20:11,729
off the mask, enjoy the sun, I can sun other parts of my body

1566
01:20:11,849 --> 01:20:14,299
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's, yeah, you should do that.

1567
01:20:14,299 --> 01:20:16,039
I

1568
01:20:16,269 --> 01:20:19,919
naked and yeah, relaxing.

1569
01:20:20,219 --> 01:20:26,969
think most trees never reach the heavens, like the sky, but they

1570
01:20:26,969 --> 01:20:29,859
can reach the treetops, that's, and that's good for them, I

1571
01:20:30,069 --> 01:20:34,679
Yes, but maybe it's because they, they're not letting their true, uh,

1572
01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:39,429
roots, you know, grow, grow deeper and like exploring the dark side.

1573
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:39,459
Yeah.

1574
01:20:39,639 --> 01:20:40,429
Yeah, yeah.

1575
01:20:40,509 --> 01:20:44,959
Fiddling down rabbit holes, and maybe, maybe there's something there.

1576
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:49,400
we won't talk about Nostr, sorry, like it's a tease.

1577
01:20:50,877 --> 01:20:52,680
Yeah,

1578
01:20:53,675 --> 01:20:54,355
listeners.

1579
01:20:55,085 --> 01:20:57,735
Are we, are we at a natural conclusion or what?

1580
01:20:58,718 --> 01:20:59,358
I think we are.

1581
01:21:00,218 --> 01:21:01,898
I mean, yeah, one more thing.

1582
01:21:02,608 --> 01:21:06,538
While it's on my mind, there's a great website called What David

1583
01:21:06,538 --> 01:21:09,248
Bowie was doing when he was your age.

1584
01:21:10,348 --> 01:21:13,938
If you want to feel bad about your life and that you're a loser, you

1585
01:21:13,938 --> 01:21:15,818
can always look up what David Bowie

1586
01:21:15,863 --> 01:21:17,283
Knut Perfectionist.

1587
01:21:17,323 --> 01:21:21,113
Listen, man, you are a rockstar, so uh,

1588
01:21:22,058 --> 01:21:22,978
Oh, fantastic.

1589
01:21:23,093 --> 01:21:27,073
need to live with understanding that the rest of us, we are

1590
01:21:27,073 --> 01:21:28,643
not as perfect as you are.

1591
01:21:28,833 --> 01:21:33,043
So, so everyone listening to the show, you shouldn't try to be like

1592
01:21:33,063 --> 01:21:34,773
Knut, try to be like me, you know.

1593
01:21:34,983 --> 01:21:39,413
It's easy, you just buy a Hat, buy a bandana, like Bitcoin and

1594
01:21:39,513 --> 01:21:41,523
sunglasses and you can be a rockstar.

1595
01:21:42,603 --> 01:21:44,283
Yeah, Coop Contributor.

1596
01:21:44,653 --> 01:21:46,293
No, Core Contributor, yeah, yeah.

1597
01:21:46,343 --> 01:21:48,343
COPE, COPE contributed.

1598
01:21:49,873 --> 01:21:52,843
Rockstar, it has been an absolute pleasure.

1599
01:21:54,053 --> 01:21:57,943
You're welcome back on at any time, and I think we should do this more often.

1600
01:21:58,293 --> 01:21:58,673
Yeah.

1601
01:21:58,773 --> 01:21:59,373
Okay.

1602
01:21:59,483 --> 01:22:00,463
Uncle times.

1603
01:22:00,523 --> 01:22:01,783
I'm looking forward to them.

1604
01:22:04,548 --> 01:22:05,078
I'm a rock star.

1605
01:22:05,128 --> 01:22:05,758
Thanks so much.

1606
01:22:06,748 --> 01:22:08,118
This has been the Freedom Footprint Show.

1607
01:22:08,238 --> 01:22:08,908
Thanks for listening.