Dr.
Ahmad Ammous, welcome to the Freedom Footprint Show.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you.
Glad to be here.
Yeah, good to see you again.
I guess last time I saw you was in Miami,
Miami Bitcoin Conference.
Yeah, yeah.
All good fun there.
Good little barbecue at a friend's house.
Yeah.
So yeah, tell our listeners who you are, please, Ahmad,
and we will take it from there.
Yeah.
So I'm a physician.
Uh, I trained in internal medicine.
Uh, I did my medical school in Lebanon and then I came for a specialization in, uh,
the U S and that's where I work right now.
my career in medicine has been, I would say just very disappointing.
once I was in medical school, I understood that the system is
not meant to make anyone better.
It's just meant to keep clients in And once I started realizing that, and at
the same time understanding Bitcoin and understanding fiat, I just understood that
the entire system is very broken, and I'm trying to just raise awareness about that.
Yeah, yeah.
You have, you have a brother that has written a word or two about Bitcoin.
he knows a little bit about Bitcoin and about fiat, so 100%.
Yeah, I, I guess it's sort of unavoidable to, to, uh, to do
a deep dive, uh, on the topic.
Um.
So, so what, what's your specialization?
I trained in internal medicine.
I work as a primary care physician in a hospital here in Massachusetts.
Uh, so I, I kind of deal with everything.
I see all kinds of patients.
Yeah, so, so to a European, when we envision a, uh, a, an American
hospital, uh, people are either obese, they're overdosing on drugs,
or they have a gunshot wound.
So which, so which is the bigger problem?
Yeah.
Uh, not that many gunshot wounds anymore, I would say, but a lot of fat and, uh,
opioid addicted people, unfortunately.
So the opioid, uh, epidemic, is, is that a product of fiat in your mind?
Like what, what causes that?
It's, uh, it's definitely a product of fiat.
Uh, I mean, it was basically a company that really wanted to make more money
and they decided to put on a drug on the market that was dangerous.
This is Oxycontin.
So Oxycontin was put on in the market, they, they publicized it as being
safe and effective for consumers.
It's purpose, but even though it wasn't, and, uh, they had some connections
with the people in, in the FDA who approved this, and, uh, it ended up
being on the streets, and it ended up causing people to be addicted.
And was basically as bad as the crack epidemic here in the U.
S., where it was just destroying households, destroying
lives, people overdosing.
And so now, physicians have gone away from prescribing OxyContin because they realize
that it just causes long term addiction.
But there's still a lot of people who are struggling from that.
There's still a lot of people that are opioid dependent.
And I see them in the hospital every day.
They just They just come in and they're complaining of various things, but all
they want is morphine, or And this is the only thing that, this is the only
purpose of their lives, unfortunately.
And it's, it's quite sad.
Yeah, uh, I'm curious, in your mind, how, how is this a product of fiat,
and how would it be better on a sound money standard and on a more
like Rothbardian society, how would opioid addiction go away, like,
I mean, so, The, the centrally planned medicine where the The treatment is
coming from a society that's telling you this is what you have to use.
And once it's one society that's controlling which drug and which type
of therapy we need to put out there, that's very easy to get captured.
While if it was a free society where, doctors get to experiment
and say what works for them versus what doesn't, it would be a very
different, uh, very different story.
So all of a sudden the FDA is telling, is telling people that, Oxycontin
is safe and then this company who's going to make a lot of money out
of it is Selling this to people.
this is how fiat starts.
And it's difficult with medicine to just pinpoint it on one single event without
understanding the past of it and how we got to the point where we are right now.
uh, and the main point is why are we just dependent on pharmaceutical medicine?
why is that the standard of care?
And once you read the history, especially in the U.
S., you understand that this wasn't a product of the free market.
This was a product of a centrally planned project, to get people that the
standard of care is pharmaceutical drugs.
And it started in 1910.
Uh, the Rockefeller Foundation at that point, which had a, which had control over
all pharmaceutical, uh, pharmaceutical, uh, uh, petroleum based products.
They basically hired this guy called Flexner, and Flexner, who was a high
school teacher, He came up with a report that said medical education in the U.
S.
is broken and needs to be fixed.
And when he did that, his project to improve it was to close any
medical school that taught any non standard, non scientific medicine.
And for them, non scientific is anything that's not based on pharmacology and
based on pharmaceutical treatment.
And so, all of a sudden, all these alternative schools of medicine, including
osteopathy, homeopathy, uh, natural medicine, they were all considered
illegal and they were shut down.
And that's basically the start of fiat.
Uh, this is a, this is a very, uh, I mean, Austrian economists like to talk about
this, but this started around the time when the Federal Reserve was created.
Because in order to get the power to close the medical schools down and
put people in jail for practicing any alternative medicine or all of that, you
need a government with guns to do that.
And the only way you can get a government like that is if you
have a Federal Reserve funding it.
And that's the core of the problem, I think.
Yeah, um, I grew up in, in Sweden where the healthcare system is, is
very socialized, you know, and, and, uh, the, like, Social Democrats have
been in power for like 70 years, and if it's not them, it's just like the
Social Democrat version of some other party, so it's, it's I grew up with a
system where they basically told you there's nothing wrong with you, go home.
Most of the time, because they don't want to deal with patients.
And, uh, once you got into the care, once you actually got to a doctor, uh,
then the care was, the, um, the Medicare was fine, but it's sort of, you had,
you had to like pretend that you were dying in order to get care at all.
Uh, so, so that system is obviously not right.
And I think like, uh, um, A free market system where with inflationary currencies,
you get this phenomenon of you don't know if the doctor is just saving up
for a new yacht or not, and he's trying to sell you as much drugs as possible.
Uh, so, yeah, hopefully, On a sound money standard, it can be something
else, and people will have to think for themselves more, because I think
that's the crux of the problem, like outsourcing thinking to someone else.
Because of course, with alternative medicine, there's a lot of bullshit
as well, like, uh, there's a lot of, uh, snake oil salesmen out there.
Yeah,
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's such a complicated topic that it's, it's No
central agency is going to be able to determine what works for people.
Just leave it up to the free market.
if there was ever a cure all for something, it's that, right?
There is a, yeah.
Funnily enough, there is an omni, a super medicine for the economy, and
that's just, don't meddle with it.
Exactly.
Yeah, I mean, with medicine, where, where do you draw the line and
what treatments you can offer?
It's just, it's so variable.
Like, if someone has knee pain, are we going to go and Test everything out there.
Do we need to do an x ray and an MRI and get blood tests on the, on the patient?
And that question should be different for someone who's an office worker versus
someone who's a soccer striker, you know.
His knee is very more important to him.
And so that, you leave that up to the market.
It shouldn't be an insurance system that covers everything because at that
point the, the tests and the, and the treatments we can offer are limitless.
And this is why these systems are so inefficient, because they want to
give everyone everything to everyone.
And, but who gets to determine that?
When?
Why?
I mean, picking your own health insurance on the free
market would solve that, right?
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, it's so, and what I find so, so, uh, fascinating about medicine
is that we have these hospitals and these people in green robes and we're
somehow supposed to think that, that, that they're all knowing and all powerful
and that they, they are the ones that have the answers for, for this and that.
Even though, like, it's just a, it's just a building, uh, that someone
poured a lot of money into, and it's just a green robe, it doesn't make you
a superhuman, and just because you have a university degree, like, uh, it, it
Sure, of course, this is not to diss doctors as a profession, but, but, uh,
I mean, there's still so much we don't know about the human body, and especially
not about a specific human body.
And as you say, treat, treat people for like they are, uh,
treat the football player one way and the office worker another is
A hundred percent.
Maybe you can explain a little bit further why all of this stuff actually
comes back to the fiat problem though.
Because I think maybe this is, maybe there's still a little
bit of a disconnect here.
Not getting all the way from the start of the problem to the effects.
Maybe you can explain that just in a little bit more detail.
Yeah.
I mean, so ideally, if you get sick, you want to, I mean, you want
different opinions on your time.
On your illness, I mean, uh, pharmaceutical drugs could be an
answer, but maybe what you need is some, some chiropractor or osteopath
to do a physical maneuver for you that is going to solve the problem.
Uh, maybe what you need is a natural treatment.
Maybe you need to be out in nature and get sunshine.
Why is pharmaceutical I think that's the only option available for most people.
Why are the other considered quacks and not recommended or also
always not covered by insurance?
And the reason is, is because there was an agenda to prevent that.
And it all starts with the beginning of the progressive
era, which Rothbard talks about.
And at that point in the U.
S., there was a lot of very powerful industries that wanted to remain in power.
That And they did that by convincing government that in order for us to
remain in power, you have to you have to convince people that, oh, there
are certain measures that need to be taken basically to take them out
from competition in the free market.
And this is the beginning of the progressive era in the early 1900s
is basically the beginning of when the American Medical Association, the
American Dietetics Association, all these associations that were there
to maintain a monopoly on business, how it was run then was created.
And so anyone who practices.
Outside the standard norm, which is pharmaceutical medicine, it's considered
a quack and put in jail or prosecuted.
And, I mean, it's expensive to do that.
It's not, uh, it's, if it works against the market forces, if there
are people that are being helped by this homeopath or by this osteopath,
And he is finding people helpful.
It's expensive to try and convince people not to go to him
and make him illegal and stuff.
And where is this money coming from?
Where is this political effort coming from?
It's coming from fiat.
It's, it's not, it's not based on the market force.
The market force saying that some people find this guy helpful.
they've been using homeopathy for hundreds of years.
But all of a sudden now he's a quack and, uh, and, uh, he's illegal
and that was the creation of fiat.
What's your opinion about, uh, the placebo effect and the nocebo effect?
Like, uh, yeah.
Um, how does that play into, to all of this?
Very, very powerful.
I mean, if you talk to old school physicians, if you read their books
and stuff, they tell you that a lot of medicine is basically just you
talking to a patient and making them feel better about themselves and making
them, you know, telling them that this problem is not killing you and
you can get over it and the body is able to heal itself when you do that.
And so, yeah,
So you're all, so you're all quacks, like
we're all
only that.
A hundred percent.
The problem with modern medicine is that it wants to do quackery,
but with Pharmaceutical drugs that are actually toxic.
So, say you go to a homeopath, he gives you a chamomile extract.
Most likely, or I mean, I'm not going to say most likely, chances are that this
is working through a placebo effect.
you go to a standard physician, he's giving you a pharmaceutical drug
that's giving you tons of side effects.
And so, it's causing more harm than it is good.
If it's gonna work, it's probably gonna work because of the placebo effect, but
you are harming people by doing that.
Yeah.
So, so they want to keep you sick, basically.
Of
want to keep you sick, yes, and uh, this is the thing is, all these medications
are, they're not used to just heal things and you get over with it.
It's meant to be a lifetime subscription, which is a lot more expensive.
course.
But so, so what's the story in other countries, like the FDA in the U S
and how that's connected to the fad?
If it's to the fed, that's the fad, uh, the fed, that's one thing.
But, uh, um, how did it come to, like, why are hospitals so similar across the globe?
Why, why, why do all of them have big buildings and green robes and, uh, uh,
a national health institute governing what they shouldn't, shouldn't say?
Is this the same problem everywhere?
I don't, I haven't done that much work on Europe and the rest of the world, but
I, from what I've read is basically that model was used by the WHO and spread
to the rest of the world in the 70s.
And, they basically publish it as, again, we need the scientific method to be,
we only need to follow the scientific method, and when they mean scientific
method, they mean pharmaceutical method.
And that's how they shut down other schools of thought, and
that's how they become quacks and alternative treatments, you know?
Yeah, you said something about going into the sun as a remedy, uh, there before.
I saw your excellent thread about the sun, uh, on X the other day.
Like, can you give us the TLDR on that?
There was some, it started with something like your, uh, 338 times
more likely to die from no sun exposure than from sun exposure.
Yeah, the sun exposure thing might be a bigger scam than even diet.
And if you ask any dermatologist or any eye doctor, the first thing they're
telling you is you need to avoid the sun.
Which really doesn't make any sense because as humans
we've always lived in the sun.
And what they use to justify that is a certain rates of skin cancer.
Uh, do increase with increased sun exposure.
However, these cancers are usually non lethal, the ones that
are increased by sun exposure.
And actually, the lethal ones, like melanoma, are worse if
you're not exposed to the sun.
this is forgetting about all the other chronic conditions which get better
if you are exposed to the sun, or you avoid getting them, such as diabetes
and hypertension and the rest of solid tumors, which, by getting in the sun,
you reduce your risk of getting them.
Again, I mean, I don't know.
Uh, how far, how conspiratorial you want to get is depends on, on you.
But I think that the medical system really wants to make us sick.
And if it's not, if they're not attempting to make us sick, then at least they're
selling a lot of, uh, a lot of sunscreen by keeping that propaganda going.
Speaking of sunscreen, I've heard that that is a product that was invented by
oil companies for, for like certain kinds of oils that couldn't be sold as motor
oils, couldn't be sold as cooking oils.
So they had to figure out a way to sell them.
And the sunscreen is of course, like.
That's a no brainer.
Oh, the sun is dangerous, and you should put this on instead.
And I even saw a study once claiming that sun blockers themselves are
more cancerogenic than the sun.
So, yeah, I wouldn't claim to be an expert, but
Yeah, there are, there are studies in Australia where Australia has one
of the highest risks of, uh, highest rates of skin cancer in the world.
Their rates of skin cancer have been steadily going up, but at
the same time, their rates of sunscreen use have been going up.
So, something's wrong over there, you know,
Anyone who confuses, uh, with, uh, correlation with
causation will eventually die.
a hundred percent.
I don't know what I meant by that, but yeah, yeah, Australia is a, um,
Yeah, it's an interesting example.
I mean, yeah, this goes into everything.
Yeah, Bitcoiners, like this is, this is a risk I see because many Bitcoiners, when,
when, when you figure out how, how big of a bad fiat is and what it has done to the
world and how basically since before the first world war, we've been in this lie
where, where, where history is colored by this toxic money that has, has like, uh,
changed, uh, the, the, the, I mean, the history is written by the winners, right?
And the winners were really evil people who printed money, uh, counterfeiters,
so history is written by counterfeiters.
So, I see a lot of Bitcoiners, as soon as they, like, figure out how deep the
lies are and how bad the state really is, they start clinging on to all sorts
of conspiracy theories and they take the extreme opposite view instead.
All of a sudden, okay, everything the government says is wrong.
Therefore, Alex Jones is right about everything.
And that's, to me, there's a danger there as well.
Um, that, that this, this pendulum effect that, oh, okay.
So let's throw all science out with the bathwater here and, and just replace it
with, um, free market solves everything.
So, so what are your views there?
How can you, how can you guard yourself from, from, um, like taking a too long?
scientific approach.
How can, how can you avoid the quackery and the snake oil salesmen
that are not the product of fiat necessarily, but yeah, still
I mean, we shouldn't forget how advances in medicine in the 20th
century were just revolutionary in You know, extending people's lifespan.
our, our modern life as we take it for granted now is not
possible without antibiotics.
You know, people used to get a tooth infection and end up dead.
Now that's, that's not even a consideration.
so we shouldn't forget how useful modern medicine is with, with that regards.
Also, modern medicine is very, very good at dealing with acute trauma.
Someone's getting into an a car accident.
Very good at surgically fixing that and stuff.
Uh, but it has its limitations.
It's, it's handling of chronic disease is very faulty.
And it comes down to the fact that just because it worked very well for
pharmaceutical medicines to look at a certain bacteria and kill that with an
antibiotic, they thought that chronic disease, something like uh, diabetes, is
gonna be Oh, there's a defect somewhere in the signaling system in diabetes that
if we get a drug to target a certain part of that signaling mechanism,
we'll be able to stop the disease.
But that's a very faulty way of looking at it because that signaling
mechanism is responsible for hundreds of other functions in the body.
So when you target it just to target diabetes, you're affecting it and causing
so many other side effects in the body.
So this is where the fault of modern medicine is.
I mean, how to avoid quackery?
Again, I mean, we live in a time where you have so many online resources
and so many, so many people out there putting statements about things.
And it's becoming clear that online people that are, things that are
useful to people Do make it to the top.
And it's hopefully a matter of time before fiat ends where medical treatments also
become part of that, you know, if there's a thousand people that had this condition
and they found that this herbal treatment was useful for them, uh, there's, there's
going to be enough talk on it online to get us to the point where we want.
And I mean, the, the function of government shouldn't be to.
handle all quacks and stuff.
Let the quacks publish whatever they want to publish and the market will
decide if they're quacks or not.
Like if you if you want to compare it to restaurants, like I guess you you wouldn't
mind if the government is is making sure that all restaurants are clean and stuff.
But what governments are doing right now with in medicine is like
they're only, they're only allowing a certain type of food in restaurants,
which is pharmaceutical medicine.
And so we're only allowing Chinese food, no French food, no
Italian food, no pasta, no pizza.
And this is where, this is why we are in the mess we are.
Leave it up to the free market.
If there's, if there's a quack that's not helping people, he won't get publicity.
Yeah, I'm not sure I want the government to meddle with the safety of the
restaurant either, because like a restaurant who's killing its customers
usually runs out of business pretty fast.
So I, I, I would suggest the free market is better at that too.
I have a story about my, I have a brother that's the head chef of a restaurant.
And, uh, uh, he's, um, Uh, they had the, uh, health authorities
at that restaurant to, to, uh, to check that everything was okay.
So about eight people from this grey government agency, and, uh, um, the, the
restaurant got, like, three, you know, bad points or whatever you call them.
You have to fix this, you have to fix that, you have to fix this.
They found three errors of some kind, like, this is not, um, healthy enough.
And after they were done, and had, like, not okayed the place.
They, they called up and ordered a table for the next night.
So it was good enough for them.
And it's like, all right, so normal people can't eat here, but you can.
So it's, it's very, and I think that's very more common practice than not.
I, I used to work in the shipping industry and this was the same with these people
to inspect the, the The ships, sometimes there were even people that left a patch
of rust or something for them to find in order for them to have something to fill
out on their form and find something that was easy to fix because otherwise they
would just come up with something because if you, if you employ someone to find an
error, that guy is going to find an error.
It's like the same thing with airport safety.
If they don't.
You know, harass a person every now and then, then they're
not doing their job correctly.
So it's all about incentives, right?
Yeah.
mean, the sad thing with medicine is that, uh, medicine has become so fiat
that, I mean, even you see like the highest, the best trained Harvard doctors
and their family members get sick and they're only given the option of fiat.
And it's, it's sad.
It's sad.
I mean, it's the, the crop of the crop in medicine, but they're still
doing things that, I mean, if you go down Facebook rabbit holes, there's
natural treatments to fix these things that are far better than what
Harvard Medical School is offering.
But, uh, that's fiat.
So, what is plastic surgery and Botox injections?
Like, uh, that's a, Botox is like a, a neuro, uh, toxin, right?
That women, uh, voluntarily inject into their lips.
How is that such a big thing in the States?
Like, when, when I see American women, I'm like, what's wrong with these people?
Why do they do this to themselves?
So they look like car accident victims.
Like, it's, it's so weird.
it's, it's one of the, it's actually the most potent toxin in the world.
But, I mean, they use, uh, they use such small doses that, uh, that, that dose is
not enough to cause, uh, body toxicity.
It just causes that muscle to, to basically get paralyzed.
And I mean, it's, it's part of the fiat, uh, fiat thing is if, if we are
gonna teach people to prevent wrinkles and have healthy skin, which involves
eating well, being in the sun, avoiding sunscreen, then we won't be able to sell
them the solution to wrinkles, which is Botox, which is quite lucrative.
And again, that's part of the same, same cycle.
I think it's also this, uh, eternal youth, uh, fantasy that people seem to be living
in, that aging is somehow, should, should somehow be avoided, like, uh, I mean,
you are the age you are, like, be happy with your age, you're gonna get wrinkles
sooner or later, I mean, And they're not ugly, per definition, like, or per,
I mean, I think the whole attitude, and I suspect that's connected to fiat too,
this, this, like, like, if you go back in, um, 50 to 100 years, like, people
were more courteous to elderly, to the elderly, and like, uh, if the, uh, an
old person walked onto a bus, you, you usually Gave away your seat to them, and
like, you treated your elders with more dignity and respect than people do today.
And that's probably also a function of this, uh, move fast and break things thing
I mean,
comes with fiat.
Instagram too, like Instagram has done wonders to the plastic surgery industry.
You know, it's,
ha!
looking good after those filters is very important.
And, uh, there are plastic surgeons out there that are, uh, are
willing to give you that product.
So, so, let's get into the, um, the taboo topic, uh, that the so called pandemic
that happened a couple of years back.
Uh, where we were told to do all sorts of strange things,
like, what's your view on that?
How, how, how, uh, how did that come to be?
And what powers were at play?
How did it get so weird?
And why aren't we remembering it afterwards?
Why are people, like, collectively forgetting about it?
Yeah, so, uh, the sad thing about the pandemic, for me personally,
is that I understood the medical system, I understood how dark the
medical system is, that I wasn't surprised by what happened with COVID.
I sort of saw it coming.
I knew that they would use something like that to their advantage.
what there, there was a new illness.
So I was in New York city when it started.
And there was definitely a new illness that we have not seen before that was
getting people very sick and people were dying from it at the beginning.
Uh, there was a peak when we first started seeing cases where the
hospital was full of COVID patients.
And then after that peak was gone, there was a complete lockdown.
So there were just no cases.
And then, then there was another peak where the hospital was completely
full and that was basically all from the side effects of the injections.
And very few people want to talk about that, but this is
the reality of the situation.
nobody, there were definitely some therapeutics that were helpful for
the cases that were getting very sick, but nobody wanted to talk about that
because you could not patent that, you cannot make money out of that.
And also the emergency youth authorizations for the injections, uh,
would not be valid if there was an actual treatment available for the medication.
And so this was all the talk about hydro, uh, ivermectin and, uh, uh,
hydroxychloroquine hydroxychloroquine because if, if these were published
as being able to treat covid, then you couldn't get an emergency use
authorization for the injections.
And that emergency use authorization, what it allowed is this product would
be released after a short period of testing only, and the companies would
not be legally liable to any side effects that would happen from them.
So it was a double willed situation.
And that's why all these alternative treatments were not looked into.
And again, I mean, going back into how fiat medicine works, I mean, There
are people that reported that giving people high dose, uh, vitamin C was
very helpful for these COVID patients.
But again, because this vitamin C is not something you can patent, it's
not a pharmaceutical medication, it's not something we're going to
test and we're going to look into.
it's, it's pretty crazy when you're in the hospital, you're seeing hundreds
of COVID patients die around you, and none of the fiat doctors around you Even
consider things like that, you know, some of the most closed minded doc people
I've dealt with are doctors in that
they're, they're, they're only, they only practice what they're told, you know.
And nobody is looking into, if you have a cold, you take some
vitamin C, you feel better.
Why not think about, oh, maybe that would work for someone with COVID.
But unfortunately, the fiat system just maintains this, this charade.
Yeah, that's what I took.
I took vitamin C and paracetamol when I had COVID.
Um, and yeah, it was a rough, rough two weeks.
Sure.
But, uh, I did what I always do when I get a cold, which is
vitamin C and paracetamol, mostly.
Not much else, maybe a tea with honey in it or something, like herbal tea.
Yeah, I mean, again, also, all the people that were dying from COVID in
New York City when I was there, were people that had a lot of comorbidities.
They were either obese, had chronic conditions, And so, these people's
immune system is already compromised, but, I mean, we've reached a point with
fiat medicine where we don't consider someone who's obese and someone who's
diabetic to be immunocompromised, because this is the standard norm.
This is the majority of the patients we see, that we're no longer thinking
about, so how do we prevent this person from staying obese, you know?
And there's no conversation about that.
There's a conversation of what product can we release out there that
can make money off of his illness.
Yeah, and there was some confusion about dying of COVID and dying with COVID.
You know, the statistics were fucked.
The way it was in my hospital, you were kind of incentivized somehow to
declare COVID as the cause of death.
Uh, because at that point, the government was giving more subsidies.
A more repayment if COVID was the cause of death.
So, if somebody wasn't even tested but you had suspicion that he
might have had COVID, you declare COVID as the cause of death.
how many of the numbers of death are due to that?
Not clear.
No, it's a weird time, and like, I traveled during late stage
COVID a lot, and uh, Like, in one airport you were completely
forced to wear a mask everywhere.
And when you flew to the next airport, no one was wearing a mask.
So it was a very weird time.
Like, how is this going to do anything to, uh, except just annoy people?
And those tests and everything, think about the man hours lost
in doing all this bullshit, like, and people caught it anyway.
And it's like, uh, so, so you just had the same, the same development
of a pandemic, uh, just play out over a different timeline.
Uh, but it's still.
And result is probably, I, I don't know how many lives that saved.
And if, if you think about a human life in, uh, like if you think, if
you, if you take a human life is 80 years or something, and you count all
the hours spent in lines for getting the tests and in lines for going
through the safety check in the airport and in years spent in bureaucracy.
And you add them up, like, how many lifetimes do you steal by,
by introducing these things?
Like, that's, that's the statistic I would like to see.
So, like, is it worth it?
Well, do the calc if you're gonna centrally plan, do it properly then, and
see how, how much time am I stealing?
How much lifetime am I, how many people am I killing by introducing bureaucracy
into the equation in the first place?
And that part of the equation is never, ever there.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, the point of this is not to make you live longer.
The point of this is to keep you under control.
And it's only a matter of time before the next pandemic is around the corner
and What they do with that one is going to be, is going to be interesting.
Do you think that will be a pandemic or something else?
Like, could it be a computer virus that, uh, what, the first computer pandemic or,
or is it aliens or what is it next time?
I'm so keen to, to see what they come up with.
I don't know if you follow Whitney Webb at all, but she, she talks
that a, uh, basically a breakdown of the internet is coming up soon.
So that, that would be interesting.
Yeah, she's interesting.
I've seen her on a couple of pods.
Uh, she's, uh, uh, paints a very bleak picture of what's going on.
And, uh,
Yeah,
yeah, I might not subscribe to all of it, but most of it, uh, I
mean, she's got a point or two,
she got a point there too.
I don't think she understands Bitcoin that well though, because she thinks that
Bitcoin is still, uh, is still being able to be controlled by these dark forces.
and it's not.
It's
Another, uh, another funny thing about COVID that I heard, I don't,
uh, uh, this is just, uh, uh, I'm just asking you about it if, if you heard
anything like it, is that, uh, smokers, uh, chain smokers were actually.
More likely to survive because the virus couldn't like the virus sort of attached
to the the bottom of the lungs, right?
There was something about the cell connecting to another and when your
lungs were already destroyed by years of smoking The virus couldn't get you
at least not the late stage COVID Which was the thing that people died from
Yeah,
heard anything about
I've heard about that.
It has to do something with the nicotinamide, uh, which is activated
by nicotine receptors in the lung.
Uh, it's a, it's a deep rabbit hole.
I haven't explored it deeply.
But I mean, there are interesting theories out there in the internet,
which if you look at the smoking in general, the rates of, uh, lung cancer.
have exponentially increased, uh, over the last, maybe, like, 70 years.
And that was since the introduction of pesticides, uh, on tobacco leaves.
And it's likely that most of the bad things that we get from tobacco are
not from the tobacco itself, but rather from the pesticides that are put on it.
So, yeah, I mean, because people have been smoking for a very long time.
I don't know if chain smoking is necessary, like, that probably is
not good for you, but, I mean, Native Americans have been smoking tobacco
for a very long time, so this is, uh, another fiat thing that, uh, it's an
interesting rabbit hole to go down.
I'm not encouraging anyone to smoke, I'm just
pointing out some things I read on the internet, you know.
If you're gonna smoke, smoke org there are there is organic tobacco out there
that doesn't have any pesticides on it.
And also organic, like rolling paper and stuff.
So,
yeah.
There, there, there's tons of rabbit holes here, of course.
And they're like, it, it's hard to separate, like, uh, stuff since
everything's so intertwined in fiat land.
Uh, one poison poisons, one poisonous thing poisons another.
Like even if you, if you eat good meat.
Like, how can you be sure that the, the grass, the grass fed cow has been
eating wasn't like full of pesticides too, and like, of course, at least
it has gone through the filter, filtration mechanism of a cow, but,
uh, you know, everything's connected.
yeah, I mean, it's, it's difficult and it's definitely, it's
something that is concerning.
I mean, but the main thing, and I think fiat medicine destroys that, is
once you get to a point where you're healthy enough and you're basically off
sugar and off pharmaceutical drugs, and you are getting enough sun that your
circadian rhythm is in line, you get to the point where you can sense What
things are good for you and what are not.
And this is the point when you basically don't need a doctor.
And this is the point where really that would destroy our modern medical system.
But I think this is the point where everyone, where people should aspire
to be is you understand your body well enough that you can understand
what it needs at any certain point.
You understand what you need to do when you get sick, et cetera.
And the body has an inherent intelligence in it where it can
heal itself when it gets sick.
You know, animals in the wild, they get sick, they just take a day off,
they just sit in the shade, they fast.
At the next day, they're back to normal.
And this is how humans are, too.
But Fiat doesn't want you to know that.
The idea of having a primary care physician who handles everything medically
with you, that's a very Fiat idea.
You only need a doctor if you're very sick, and you know, you
can't figure out what's going on.
But most people don't need a doctor.
Here in Europe, it's usually that you don't even get one doctor assigned
to you, but you get a new doctor every time you're in the hospital.
Because they don't follow up, they follow up each other's patients, and
I always found that strange, like, why am I not seeing the same guy?
It's obviously got more, a bigger understanding of, a better understanding
of who I am and what I need, but that's not the way it works.
Yeah, the system puts no emphasis on the human aspect of it, where I mean,
if you go to a doctor for a few years and you're comfortable with him and
He becomes like, you know, like a friend and you can confide with him and
you look forward to seeing him, etc.
That has no role in fiat.
That's not, there's no emphasis on that in fiat.
All right.
So, uh, from one thing to another, is, is there a fiat medicine
book coming at some point?
Uh, and are you, are you working on
I'm thinking about it.
I, I find my reward more in seeing patients than in writing.
So that's what I'm working on.
I'm working on getting my own online consulting service going.
This is going to be where I put more of my, most of my emphasis.
And it's not going to be complicated, it's just going to be telling people
what they need to eat, how they need to fix their circadian rhythm, how
they need to move, and how they need to cut out medications from their lives.
how, speaking of circadian rhythm, how, how dangerous is like electric light?
How, how much did that, uh, destroy our, all of our circadian rhythms?
And I guess, you know, uh, phone screens are even worse, but like
Are you supposed to turn off your lights when the sun goes down?
Depending on where you live, of course.
For me personally, the first step that started all of this for me was when I
cut sugar and carbohydrates from my diet, and I became very healthy with that.
That was, I moved from, you know, being in a 2 out of 10 health to 8 out of 10.
The next step to take it to the next level was when I fixed my circadian rhythm.
And the main thing about that is you want your brightest hours to be before sunset.
For most people, that's not true.
Their brightest hours are after sunset, and so artificial light, blue lights from
screens or from LED lights, they, uh, they transmit blue light, and blue light
is present in sunlight, and its main function is to control circadian rhythm.
So if there's blue light present, your body perceives it as it's the sunlight.
And that's still day.
If there's no blue light, then it's dark and it's bedtime, okay?
So, it's difficult to do with modern life because a lot of people still have
responsibilities to do after sunset.
So it's difficult to be completely dark.
Uh, there are ways around it.
I mean, you want your house to be as dark as possible.
If you can cut down on the number of lamps that you have on, that helps.
Uh, there are softwares on, that you can put on your laptop, on
your phone, that block blue light.
There's something called Flux that's very helpful.
It automatically sees when the sunset is and puts that filter on.
Uh, also blue light blocking glasses, uh, which kind of, kind of sound like
a scam, but they are, they are actually very helpful because They allow you to
have the light come in, but your main sensor of circadian rhythm is your eyes.
And so it blocks the blue light and allows you to better, uh, you
know, there is better control of your circadian rhythm that way.
And in general, if possible, uh, it's better to replace your LED
lamps at home with incandescent bulbs, the old school bulbs.
Because those have less blue light coming out of them.
Yeah, that was also a strange government intervention thing when
they started, uh, banning those.
The old school lightbulbs, uh, happened all over Europe.
I don't know how that played out in the US, but it's a weird thing because, like,
they're basically illegal here.
Yeah.
Such a weird chain of events.
It's like, uh, in the, uh, it reminds me of what, after Chernobyl when, uh, you
know, studying, uh, nuclear was forbidden for like 20 years, like it wasn't
even allowed to study how it worked.
Like what good is that gonna do?
So maybe to try to bring this into a an optimistic note,
how does Bitcoin fix all this?
how does Bitcoin fix this?
Uh, first of all, uh, the lack of third party, uh, handling your
payments makes it more of a direct relationship with your physician.
And uh, if you like what your physician is doing, but his hospital
doesn't like what you're doing.
Uh, he's doing, then you can just pay him directly and that is gonna reduce
the power of third party, third parties like hospitals, those huge clinic
sites, and it's gonna be a direct, uh, doctor to patient relationship.
That's one.
The second part of it is, again, the suppression of alternative medical cures.
it's only possible if there's a fiat money printer, sponsoring governments
that are going after this agenda.
And once we're on a bitcoin standard, there's no loose fiat
floating around, then there's not going to be any room for that.
And so I'm, I'm, I'm hopeful for the future.
yeah, so are we.
I mean, it's all about ending the era of centralization, right, and of, uh,
central planning, um, Because, like, the US, make no mistake, it's a centrally
planned economy, because it has a money printer on top of everything else,
so it's, uh, it's a commie country.
Most people don't realize it.
Yes, centrally planned country, centrally planned medicine, centrally
planned education, the whole lot.
I mean, if you,
I work in a hospital in Massachusetts.
This area is known to have some of the best hospitals in the, in the country.
Uh, and it's crazy, like, you go to these hospitals, it's It's kind of
like walking into Armageddon, you know, there's, all these hospitals
are filled to the rim, there's people like sleeping in the hallways.
there's, there's always what we call like code disaster, where there's just more,
more patients in the hospital than the hospital can absorb, all these things.
And that just talks about inefficiency in the market, just talks about
something that's centrally planned.
All of this, the hospitals are like overbooked and they don't
have the, there's, they don't have empty rooms and all of that.
But at the same time, the hospitals are going bankrupt, because again,
this is, this Centrally planned, and it's inefficient, and we have to do
everything for every patient, and
Same thing in Europe with, uh, the hospitals are running out of money.
Uh, so many, and especially like if it's state run, they have to
go over their budget every year.
They have an incentive to do so in order to get the same amount
of money next year or more.
Because no, no, uh, government run entity ever wants to grow smaller.
They always want more, right?
So they need to exceed their budget, uh, like every other institution.
So, so they grow like cancers.
They, they, uh, yeah, the state needs chemotherapy to kill the cancer cells,
and the chemotherapy is Bitcoin.
It's gonna be rough for some public sector people, but it's
the, it's the remedy they need.
Um.
You need to read, read the system of the leukemia of, uh, the, the
monetary cardiovascular system is suffering from, uh, Fiat leukemia
and that's what needs to be cured.
100%.
So I, I think, I think we're pretty much winding down here.
So, uh, is there anything else you'd like to mention?
Uh, any, anything we haven't covered that you Uh, do you want it to talk about?
No, I mean, I guess this is everything.
This was pretty comprehensive.
Uh, again, I, I encourage people to be their own physician.
I encourage people to understand their bodies well.
This is the, the best, uh, the best medicine out there.
Uh, there's a lot of stuff on the internet that's helpful for people that
want to understand more about diet.
And about circadian rhythm and all of that.
And health is not very difficult to attain.
You know, as they say, diseases are many, but health is one.
And if you want to understand how to live healthy, it's not very difficult to do.
Uh, good tips.
Yeah, fantastic.
Uh, so with that, uh, is there anywhere you'd like to direct our listeners
to, uh, to follow you or find out more about your ideas and your work?
Yeah, so my Twitter is AmoosMD.
I, that's where I ramble about things like this.
And I will soon be starting my own newsletter, so that should be interesting.
It should be also less politically correct stuff.
So that should be good.
Looking forward to that a lot.
And yeah, say, say hi to Save from, from us and a great conversation.
Great to have you here.
Um, and, um, yeah, good luck with all of it.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate being with you.
Fantastic, likewise.
Yeah, thanks for joining us.
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