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Because money probably is the base layer for society, but there is also like your

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consciousness and your consciousness is the base layer for the universe.

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There is always this speech like Bitcoin fixes this and Bitcoin fixes a lot of

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is not fixed, then nothing is fixed.

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But Bitcoin can help you to fix also your consciousness because

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you have more time and then you can probably meditate or kind of go in

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the Garden and the forest, and yeah.

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Have more time for yourself.

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Mark,

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welcome to the

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Freedom Footprint Show, I guess Knu.

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Hi.

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And nice to be here.

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.  Yeah.

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We're, we're sort of more where you are normally than where I am normally.

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Mm-Hmm.

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, we're in the Princess Hotel in flocking in Germany.

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The number one Bitcoin hotel.

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Yes.

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The, the world's first 21 star hotel, right?

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Yes, exactly.

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I saw the new placard.

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Mm-Hmm.

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yesterday outside the, the hotel.

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It's beautiful.

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And we're here for Bitcoin, Ile.

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Ile Lele.

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So the, IM.

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Bitcoin is actually representing the dots above the A, right?

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Bitcoin

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im Ländle.

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can you tell us about Bitcoin im Ländle and

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what that is and how you came up with that?

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So Bitcoin im Ländle is like the, let's say like the most Bitcoin

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maxi event in Germany, I would say.

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I mean, it's not like a big conference.

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It's around 150 people.

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And yeah, we have like different workshops, talks, speeches, and like

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the special thing is that we also have like lots of fun things, so

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it's not like just serious talks.

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Very, very special because it's just completely different.

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If you're like in a hotel, it's like a bitcoin citadel.

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And like, if the event is over, you're not just like, everyone

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I mean, then you're still in the hotel.

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So the hotel and the event, it's like one part and not like, um, uh, separated.

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I mean, you've been out here for the second time and probably

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you can tell your experience.

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But yeah, I love it.

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and, uh, the hotel is amazing.

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piece of Bitcoin art somewhere.

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And something I haven't seen before, uh, it is, it's really cool.

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It's full of Bitcoin memorabilia or whatever you call

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Because right now, like Bitcoin is really like often very theoretical.

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books, and this is awesome.

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But like for lots of people, they're asking where can I touch Bitcoin?

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Or where is Bitcoin?

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What, what is Bitcoin?

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And so we want to give people like, uh, chance to make Bitcoin like credible.

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about Bitcoin, living Bitcoin, spending Bitcoin and actually experiencing it.

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now growing up and also like real world adoption is happening and

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this is like what we're doing here.

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Bitcoin and Bitcoiners are really just.

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We are the coins, right?

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So, and yeah, it's great to be here.

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guess, and more and more Bitcoiners are just Been dropping in here yesterday

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and today, so it's beautiful to see.

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And is this is the, is it this the third or the fourth Bitcoin Nymlandland?

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It's the fourth, so it's like two times a year, but we also have like other events.

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And also like we're doing not just events.

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Different other types of activities where we just meet and instead of making

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a meetup, we meet and we walk together because this is super easy and super fun.

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pleb walks is a special thing like, uh, that, that originates

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from the German Bitcoin community.

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The Einundzwanzig.

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It all originates from here.

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We made the first pleb walk and because it was in Corona time

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We're doing one on Madeira, uh, after Atlantis this March.

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And the, can you tell us a bit more about the, um, uh, Einundzwanzig community?

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Because like in, in Germany, like the Bitcoin scene is huge.

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It's like everywhere.

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Yeah, because this is really special because.

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some type of organization or you need to be like organ, organ, organizated.

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Organized.

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And for example, um, this year in the beginning of the year, I was in Thailand.

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And there are lots of Bitcoiner, but they don't have telegram groups.

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nothing is happening, no meetups.

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and it's a decentralized community.

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So everyone can like make his own meetup in the city.

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see, okay, there are all the meetups.

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So, it's like decentralized, but not decentralized without organization,

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decentralized with organization.

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And this is like the big difference.

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YouTube channel and other things.

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So depending on how much you want to do for like this movement, you can

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do something or you can do nothing and yeah, a lot more and more people

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come in the community and the cool thing about Bitcoin is because

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it's not just some type of money.

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It's also like a social layer and therefore like the

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community is really awesome.

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And that's also what we see here in the hotel.

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We want to integrate the community because Oftentimes people are

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like wondering, okay, should I accept Bitcoin for my business?

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And they are wondering what are the benefits?

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And I mean, sure, there are benefits like you have less transaction fees and

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instant settlement and things like that, but there's so much more like you have

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the connection to the community and the community that will bring ideas that will

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bring so much energy into your business.

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And then you just have to take the energy from the community and.

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Integrate it to your business.

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And this is extremly good things happening for your business.

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And also it's so refreshing because they come here.

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They bring paintings here.

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They bring artworks here.

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They bring lightning gadgets here.

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They have ideas.

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Can I do this talk?

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Can I do a workshop here?

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I have an idea for an event.

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Can we do an event?

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So it's so much collaboration happening.

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you really have like this oneness.

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You are always saying we are, the Bitcoin.

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So you have really like this oneness, this connection to

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the community and connecting.

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is like a big profit for business and not doing this is actually stupid.

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It's like an organic think tank.

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That's all over the world.

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And yeah, I saw one of these maps of the Ein und Zwanzig meetups.

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And as I understand it, there's a meetup every month in each major city of Germany,

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like each and every one of the major

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Sometimes even more.

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Like, so for example, here in the Stuttgart area, we have like.

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Every month in Stuttgart meetup, then like almost every month we have in

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the hotel a meetup, which is pretty close to Stuttgart, and then we are now

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starting a third meetup here, which is like two towns next to the hotel, which

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we will also probably do every month.

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So, and yeah, just meetups everywhere around.

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so for those who need a bit of a refresher in their German geography skills, like,

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uh, or mid Europe geography skills, Stuttgart, this, This village is located

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like 20 minutes outside of Stuttgart.

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So it's like pretty close to Switzerland and like in the south

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of Germany, pretty close to Munich, also pretty close to Frankfurt.

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So it's actually pretty good located because the cool thing is all the

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great Bitcoin events in the , in the German speaking area are like 200

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or 300 kilometers next to blocking.

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And so it's, it's like pretty good located for.

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Um, going to Bitcoin conferences and going to Bitcoin events and, and it's

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pretty close to Austria and, and Czechoslovakia as, or Exactly.

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The Czech Republic.

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I'm too old.

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Like the Czech Republic as well, right?

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Yeah, exactly.

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And that's, that's also German has German speaking parts, I guess, closer

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yes, yes.

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Yeah, it's a beautiful area.

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And, um, uh, what else?

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Uh, yeah, you have a grand piano

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I mean, the thing is, this is really funny because I mean, lots of people

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would say Bitcoin is like a language.

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And Bitcoin is like a universal language, just like math.

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So everyone can actually understand it.

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So if you're American or if you're Chinese or if you're Japanese,

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everyone can understand it.

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And it's just also like music because music is also like a universal language.

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So if you, for example, take Chinese people or African people or German

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people, And you play some music and they can't talk with each other because

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they are from different countries.

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But if you play music, everyone will understand it and it will start to dance.

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And even if they are enemies, they will start to dance together

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because music connects and music is a universal language.

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But also Bitcoin connects, and Bitcoin is a universal language,

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and this is like pretty nice to see.

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Yeah, I think there are a lot of parallels with music.

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It's like, to me, Bitcoin is something, very mathematical and

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very structured that enables us to be more spiritual, if you will.

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So, if you have a base layer of...

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Perfect organization and like everything's structured and everything is thought out

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that allows for layers on top to be more, um, spiritual for lack of a better word.

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Uh, so, so that's, that's.

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And, uh, that's what I love about music, it triggers every part of the brain,

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it triggers the logic part that has to, uh, you know, think about harmonies and

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how to put chords together if you're fiddling with a melody or something,

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you have to figure out how that works, and it helps a lot to know some stuff

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about harmonics, and music in general, but At the end of the day, it's all

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about expressing something spiritual.

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So expressing yourself in some way, shape or form.

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And Bitcoin is the same thing.

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It's, something very structured, with a fixed set of rules that

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are hard to change, that allows us to express ourselves and our

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feelings in all sorts of ways.

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And I think that the only thing that's holding us back from.

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Exploring thhat part of the rabbit hole more is our imaginations.

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we just have to imagine new ways to, uh, I mean, it's unlocking a whole

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new way of coexisting in a way.

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Yes, I, I, I totally agree because yeah, music is something really

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special because also like what you're saying, like the left brain

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and the right brain is connected because normally in your normal day.

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You're always having like either the left brain or the right brain active and like

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music brings you in this flow state and then everything is connected and then

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you're just so much more efficient and this is like also in Bitcoin because if

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you want to understand Bitcoin, you can't understand it from one perspective, you

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need to combine different perspectives.

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So for example, math, mathematics, psychology, then cryptography,

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like Game theory, um, finances.

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So it's like so many parts.

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And also like, always, you see this, if there is some Bitcoin critic, he's looking

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on Bitcoin just from one perspective.

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And if you're looking just from one perspective, then sure, it looks like,

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oh yeah, Bitcoin is too inefficient because the block size is too small.

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So we have to make it more efficient.

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But if you're just looking from a technical side, without

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like the economic background.

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Then it looks like, okay, Bitcoin is not, not so good.

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And you have to combine everything and you have to really gain this holistic view.

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And this is not taught in school.

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And therefore Bitcoin is not just like a money saving tool where you can save

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your money, your time, your energy.

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It's also like a tool to gain like human, human capital.

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So get more wise, more, more.

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Yeah.

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More information.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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And you even can get like, like you say, it's like a spiritual thing

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because it helps you like awaken because on the one hand you have like more

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time for yourself because you're not so much in the fiat matrix anymore.

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On the other time it helps you with this holistic view and this holistic view.

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This is like what unwields like your spiritual power, your consciousness.

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And this is like also the thing, because you said like.

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Bitcoin is like a base layer, and I would totally agree Bitcoin is absolutely a base

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layer, but even beyond the base layer of money, because money probably is the base

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layer for society, but there is also like your consciousness and your consciousness

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is the base layer for the universe.

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There is always this speech like Bitcoin fixes this and Bitcoin fixes a lot of

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things, but if your consciousness is not fixed, if your base layer of the

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universe is not fixed, then nothing is fixed, but Bitcoin can help you to

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fix also your consciousness because you have more time and then you can

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probably meditate or can go in the garden and the forest and you can meditate.

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Yeah, have more time for yourself.

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Yeah, there's, there's a lot of talk

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about finding the signal in the noise, but, uh, one of my latest

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thoughts around this subject is that Bitcoin is not the signal, like it's

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not, uh, but it is the greatest tool for noise removal ever invented.

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Um, that, so, so it removes a lot of layers of noise, like

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political noise, uh, you.

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Your brain being, uh, wired to, to focus on hamster wheelie things and giving away

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all your time and, and doing stuff because you think you need to do stuff that

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you think you need to do that you never really needed to do in the first place.

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So, so to me, I see it as a.

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Tool for removing the noise from your life.

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So you can, you can go out on an adventure to try to find the meaning

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of your life, because I think the meaning of life is subjective.

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It's totally subjective.

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It's up to each and every one of us to find.

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Our own signal.

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And, uh, yeah, that's the way I view that.

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And you alluded to the left and the right hemisphere of the

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brain, and I think I figured out

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how a politician's

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brain works, and it works exactly like politics, like the political scale.

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Uh, the left side isn't right and the right, there's no right left.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Probably.

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Probably.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because nowadays it's really the challenge is not to go and see like

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all the news and all the information.

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It's more like about noise canceling.

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So just like noise canceling earphones, because there is so

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much noise and so much distraction.

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And so it's really about focus.

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And this you've been speaking about the meaning of life and I mean, therefore

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also lots of people are depressed because they are not connected to

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their inner source anymore because they are just like in the outside world.

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So the TV, the news, and it's so much bling bling everywhere.

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And so.

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The consciousness is like on the surface.

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It's like really distracted.

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It's just like on the sea, like on the, on the surface, there is like waves

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and like lots of things and it's windy.

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But then if you go like deeper, deeper, deeper, then you will see.

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Also, this is like how your consciousness works.

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If you go deeper, you will see you've always been silent in your mind.

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There was always like Peace and, love, but your consciousness was always on

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the surface and if you can focus like and let go of all this distraction and

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just focus and look within and then you will see there is always and there is

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peace and there was always peace and this is like what you are and not like

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the distraction, which is like in the TV and what is what I tell about you.

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but you need time to realize this.

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If you're like just running, running, running in the Fiat.

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Metrics and having to do like three or five jobs to just keep

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on with inflation, then you will never come to this realization.

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So yeah, Bitcoin can be like a spiritual tool.

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I mean, Bitcoin fixes not everything, but Bitcoin really is for me a spiritual

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tool because it's like some type of.

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Yeah, I'll just say it's like a mantra for me.

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And, uh, I, this reminds me of my grandfather's old saying that I,

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I, uh, repeat over and over again.

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And, uh, that which you can do without you own, which is the flip side of

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your things and ending up owning you.

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So, uh, and with deflationary money.

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Uh, of which there can only be one, by the way, by the very nature of deflation.

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Uh, the, the urge to spend, uh, goes down and the urge to save, uh, goes up.

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So you adopt a lower time preference and you don't crave as many things, stuff.

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So, so, so money starts working for your inner self, uh, in, in figuring out.

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That's, uh, it's a great tool for making human interactions more, uh, efficient and

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more smooth, uh, but it's not really for chasing Lamborghinis and yachts and stuff.

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That's, uh, it's, we can get to, uh, a place of, you know, more,

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uh, well, Buddhist y or, uh, stoic.

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Kind of, uh, existence where, where we realize that we don't need stuff

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as long because we have this protocol running in the back of our heads that

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allow us to, you know, be at peace with, with our being, rather than to

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run in various hamsters wheels and rat races to, in order to accumulate stuff.

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Stuff faster and faster every year, which is what every state is trying to do.

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Like if, if, uh, GDP needs to go up every year, that means, okay, we want these

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ants to run around and catch more stuff.

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And, uh, you know, you always refer to your, to stuff as your stuff.

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But when it's other people's stuff, it's shit.

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Like your shit, my stuff.

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Uh, and the, the thing Bitcoin allows you to do is to realize that

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your shit is all really shit too.

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And it's not stuff at all.

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It's just

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hindering you.

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Yes, because life actually is pretty simple.

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And like this, there is always this big illusion where the thing, like,

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if you achieve some goals or if you...

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If you gain like some, yeah, some things like some physical

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things, then you're all happier.

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But the happiness is not like in the outside world.

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So you're achieving like, okay, if I have the yacht, if I have the Lamborghini,

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if I have the Porsche, then I'm happy.

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And the problem is if you have in the big car, then your ego wants always more.

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So first you want the car, then you want the plane, then you want the

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country, and then you want like the whole universe and your mind is totally.

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I'm freaking you out.

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And this is like, this is like the ego part of yourself.

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Who's telling more, more, more, more, more.

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And then also comes this greed thing.

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And actually this is like, just, just like the monkey brain within you.

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And you now have to differentiate and see like, okay, this is the monkey inside me.

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But there is also like this clear part of me who can see through this illusion.

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Probably you can tell, say this is your spiritual being or whatever name you give

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it, who can see through this illusion.

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And the next part is also like what people are really good about, or this

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is like also the reason why people, why they suffer is because they blame

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two things, which by their nature.

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Are and impermanent because everything is impermanent.

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So this house, we are sitting here something, everything is story.

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Someday it will be rotten.

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Your even your body will die at some point.

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Yeah.

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So your, even your thoughts, your emotions.

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At some point they will be gone ideals, some at some

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point, maybe they will be gone.

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So everything is impermanent.

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And people are clinging or attaching to things which are

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by their nature impermanent.

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And this is suffering by default.

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So it's almost guaranteed that you have to suffer.

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So being in a state of detachment is really like freedom because

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this is for, for lots of people.

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Freedom is like, okay, if I can do whatever I want and nobody

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tells me what I can do, what I.

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Can or cannot do, but for me, freedom is like really a state where

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you are in detachment of physical or of everything, which is like

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broadcasted in your consciousness.

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So also thoughts, emotions.

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And if you can really look through this illusion and be in this detached

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state, then you are really free.

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And then you're also free of suffering because.

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Then you realize, okay, at some point, probably this body will

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gone, but I'm not attached to it.

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So I can handle it better than when I'm totally attached to it.

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And then probably I'm dying.

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And then I'm really, really, yeah, it's really a painful process.

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528
00:26:54,002 --> 00:26:58,352
so, so when did you get the idea for, this hotel and like, how

529
00:26:58,352 --> 00:27:04,272
did that idea evolve into making it into this hub of, Bitcoiners?

530
00:27:04,762 --> 00:27:05,152
how did that

531
00:27:05,172 --> 00:27:05,752
happen?

532
00:27:06,102 --> 00:27:08,232
I could ask you a question.

533
00:27:08,502 --> 00:27:13,552
So what would you do if you're born into like a hotel

534
00:27:13,582 --> 00:27:15,262
family and you're a bitcoiner?

535
00:27:15,312 --> 00:27:15,592
Yeah.

536
00:27:15,972 --> 00:27:17,282
What, would you do?

537
00:27:17,332 --> 00:27:19,102
Because actually, it's.

538
00:27:20,112 --> 00:27:24,432
pretty obvious if you're born into a hotel family, if you're a bitcoiner, then it's

539
00:27:24,452 --> 00:27:26,202
obvious that you connect both things.

540
00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:27,902
And actually it's a no brainer.

541
00:27:28,402 --> 00:27:28,632
Yeah.

542
00:27:28,632 --> 00:27:28,842
Yeah.

543
00:27:29,032 --> 00:27:30,892
I would probably

544
00:27:30,912 --> 00:27:33,422
be Basil Fawlty just telling the guests to fuck

545
00:27:33,422 --> 00:27:34,142
off all the time.

546
00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:34,772
So yeah.

547
00:27:34,942 --> 00:27:35,142
Yeah.

548
00:27:35,412 --> 00:27:35,662
Yeah.

549
00:27:35,942 --> 00:27:39,222
But in the end, everyone has his form of expression.

550
00:27:39,292 --> 00:27:40,702
Some guys are writing books.

551
00:27:40,762 --> 00:27:42,522
Some guys are doing movies.

552
00:27:42,522 --> 00:27:43,592
Some guys are doing.

553
00:27:44,212 --> 00:27:45,792
Videos, podcasts or whatever.

554
00:27:46,022 --> 00:27:51,672
And for me, I thought, okay, this is like an authentic way to express

555
00:27:51,672 --> 00:27:55,582
myself and also like for our family, because it's not just me.

556
00:27:55,582 --> 00:27:56,992
It's also like a family business.

557
00:27:57,002 --> 00:28:00,792
So my mother, my sister, we are like good people working here.

558
00:28:01,572 --> 00:28:03,212
So it's not like a one man show.

559
00:28:03,582 --> 00:28:09,657
And yeah, this is just like, because Oftentimes people, they want to do

560
00:28:09,657 --> 00:28:12,217
something with Bitcoin, they want to work in a Bitcoin company and

561
00:28:12,217 --> 00:28:15,757
then are thinking, Oh, do I have to start programming or what can I do?

562
00:28:15,937 --> 00:28:21,137
And actually it's pretty obvious because everyone has some skills and you just have

563
00:28:21,147 --> 00:28:23,167
to look within what can I do really good?

564
00:28:23,237 --> 00:28:24,527
For example, I can sing.

565
00:28:24,797 --> 00:28:28,227
And then you just combine singing with Bitcoin and then you have your Bitcoin

566
00:28:28,227 --> 00:28:32,777
shop and it's really easy, but oftentimes the things which are really easy for

567
00:28:32,777 --> 00:28:34,577
us, we can't see it by ourselves.

568
00:28:34,607 --> 00:28:38,187
So the people around us, they can see, Oh, Knut is a really good piano player,

569
00:28:38,397 --> 00:28:42,417
but for you, it's so normal that you don't realize you're a good piano player

570
00:28:42,417 --> 00:28:44,137
because for you, it's just normal.

571
00:28:44,497 --> 00:28:49,347
So it's really like being aware of what you can do well and what you can

572
00:28:49,357 --> 00:28:52,637
probably do not so good and combining this with Bitcoin and actually

573
00:28:52,657 --> 00:28:54,107
everything is in front of your.

574
00:28:54,747 --> 00:28:58,872
eyes You just have to be able to realize that everything is already there.

575
00:28:59,012 --> 00:28:59,602
It's about

576
00:29:00,052 --> 00:29:01,522
finding your Ikigai.

577
00:29:01,592 --> 00:29:03,452
Are you familiar with a Japanese

578
00:29:03,452 --> 00:29:05,352
Venn diagram of your, you know?

579
00:29:05,392 --> 00:29:08,442
Yes, but it's not about finding, because if you're looking

580
00:29:08,442 --> 00:29:10,762
and if you try to find it.

581
00:29:11,137 --> 00:29:12,157
Then you will not find it.

582
00:29:12,157 --> 00:29:14,167
You'll never find it it's just like creativity.

583
00:29:14,167 --> 00:29:16,717
If you try to be creative, it won't work.

584
00:29:16,717 --> 00:29:19,387
No, but creativity is always there.

585
00:29:19,417 --> 00:29:20,797
You just have to be yourself.

586
00:29:20,797 --> 00:29:22,087
You just have to let go.

587
00:29:22,147 --> 00:29:22,237
Yeah.

588
00:29:22,297 --> 00:29:24,907
And then you will automatically be your iga.

589
00:29:24,907 --> 00:29:26,857
You will automatically be creative.

590
00:29:27,037 --> 00:29:27,187
Yeah.

591
00:29:27,187 --> 00:29:31,837
So it's just about being authentic, about being your true self and not

592
00:29:31,837 --> 00:29:34,927
about finding, because the more you search, the more you look for it.

593
00:29:35,367 --> 00:29:38,877
The more you lose it, and this is probably, maybe this is like in quantum

594
00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:43,407
physics, there is also like this, um, a quantum state where something

595
00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:46,737
is always there, but as soon as you look there, it's not there anymore.

596
00:29:46,977 --> 00:29:47,317
Yeah.

597
00:29:47,977 --> 00:29:49,947
It figures out where it actually is.

598
00:29:50,277 --> 00:29:55,967
But so, yeah, this is, uh, this is so true.

599
00:29:56,007 --> 00:30:02,102
And like, uh, I tweeted this morning that I, uh, Uh, I absolutely love

600
00:30:02,112 --> 00:30:06,132
my job, but I haven't figured out exactly what my job is.

601
00:30:07,342 --> 00:30:11,592
So, so, but I think that's why I love it because it's the journey that I love.

602
00:30:12,492 --> 00:30:14,512
Figure out like, oh, I can do this.

603
00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:19,272
Oh, I have this skill and like, I can connect this dot here with that dot here.

604
00:30:19,272 --> 00:30:21,612
And, uh, all of a sudden it works.

605
00:30:21,612 --> 00:30:25,222
And it's like our friend Izzy says, like, uh, focus, just focus

606
00:30:25,222 --> 00:30:26,372
on the orange glowing lights.

607
00:30:27,032 --> 00:30:27,982
That will lead you the way.

608
00:30:28,232 --> 00:30:28,392
Yes.

609
00:30:28,442 --> 00:30:33,652
Also, also even the concept of having a job is like, not so cool for me

610
00:30:33,652 --> 00:30:37,782
because if you have a job, it's almost implemented that you don't like the job.

611
00:30:37,782 --> 00:30:40,212
So you're switching like money for work.

612
00:30:40,222 --> 00:30:41,052
Yes, exactly.

613
00:30:41,252 --> 00:30:41,612
Exactly.

614
00:30:41,902 --> 00:30:42,932
So, and actually.

615
00:30:43,157 --> 00:30:44,617
So life is really nothing hard.

616
00:30:44,617 --> 00:30:49,287
It's actually something that is really actually easy or something

617
00:30:49,287 --> 00:30:53,117
like the universe is working for you and not like you have to hustle

618
00:30:53,117 --> 00:30:54,717
and do everything really hard.

619
00:30:54,717 --> 00:30:58,047
But the thing is, if you're not connected to your inner source or if you're not

620
00:30:58,057 --> 00:31:02,077
like synchronized, it's like probably just like in the music, if the waves,

621
00:31:02,127 --> 00:31:06,267
if you're not like synchronized to the right frequency and you're in

622
00:31:06,267 --> 00:31:10,627
disharmony, then everything feels hard and it feels, Oh, I have to work.

623
00:31:11,072 --> 00:31:14,172
I'm not getting any money, but really, actually, if you like in this

624
00:31:14,172 --> 00:31:17,852
flow and if you like connected to nature, to this universe, connected

625
00:31:17,882 --> 00:31:21,712
to yourself, connected to the people around you, then it's really more like

626
00:31:21,712 --> 00:31:23,922
a flow or more like something easy.

627
00:31:24,142 --> 00:31:25,812
And yeah, life is not hard.

628
00:31:25,812 --> 00:31:29,552
And this is also what lots of people have in their mind because they have

629
00:31:29,552 --> 00:31:33,442
like the mindset Life is hard and I have to work and oh, everything is

630
00:31:33,682 --> 00:31:35,452
stupid and everything is just shitty.

631
00:31:35,722 --> 00:31:39,802
But if you believe in this, then this is your reality because you really

632
00:31:39,802 --> 00:31:45,732
like the creator in my opinion of your reality and you like the boss

633
00:31:45,822 --> 00:31:48,012
or whatever you want to call it.

634
00:31:48,472 --> 00:31:52,172
And you can create whatever you want.

635
00:31:52,332 --> 00:31:56,972
And it's not like that you're like thrown in this shitty world.

636
00:31:57,172 --> 00:31:59,172
You are, you created the shitty world.

637
00:31:59,362 --> 00:32:03,842
And also you can create a nice world and it's just up to you, but lots of people,

638
00:32:03,842 --> 00:32:06,732
they are creating the shitty world on a subconscious level because they are

639
00:32:06,752 --> 00:32:07,862
not aware of their subconsciousness.

640
00:32:08,652 --> 00:32:08,912
No.

641
00:32:08,932 --> 00:32:09,732
And this is why.

642
00:32:10,487 --> 00:32:14,187
Time for yourself and solitude and stuff like this is so important because

643
00:32:14,217 --> 00:32:18,107
then you can really see what's going up in this monkey brain and then you can

644
00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:22,597
start to transform your subconscious mind and out of your subconscious

645
00:32:22,597 --> 00:32:27,487
mind, you're almost like creating this, what people call reality.

646
00:32:27,627 --> 00:32:27,867
Yeah,

647
00:32:27,867 --> 00:32:28,147
yeah.

648
00:32:28,257 --> 00:32:33,337
And, uh, the fiat rat races that we are forced into is what

649
00:32:33,397 --> 00:32:35,707
distorts our ability to do that.

650
00:32:35,727 --> 00:32:37,527
I think that what hinders us from just.

651
00:32:38,397 --> 00:32:43,957
From just being ourselves every day and making that work, like, there's

652
00:32:43,957 --> 00:32:47,847
no greater feeling than to wake up every morning and just be yourself all

653
00:32:47,847 --> 00:32:52,767
day, and it works, like, it doesn't feel like working, it doesn't feel

654
00:32:52,767 --> 00:33:00,102
like, it just feels like living, and somehow, if you do that, uh, it...

655
00:33:00,762 --> 00:33:06,432
With the sincerest of of intent, like if you're true to, really true to

656
00:33:06,432 --> 00:33:09,472
yourself, it will work if you have Bitcoin

657
00:33:10,432 --> 00:33:10,792
.  Yes.

658
00:33:10,792 --> 00:33:11,452
Yes.

659
00:33:11,512 --> 00:33:15,472
I mean, yeah, Bitcoin is a tool, but also even if you have no

660
00:33:15,477 --> 00:33:18,832
Bitcoin in a fiat world, if you have the right mindset, yeah, yeah.

661
00:33:18,832 --> 00:33:22,372
If you have the MI mindset of a abundance, so if you have the mindset,

662
00:33:22,552 --> 00:33:24,562
I'm always getting more than I need.

663
00:33:24,822 --> 00:33:29,682
And I'm always like fulfilled and I'm always like satisfied in this type

664
00:33:29,682 --> 00:33:33,192
of mindset, even in a fiat shitty world, nothing will happen to you

665
00:33:33,192 --> 00:33:34,732
and you will always be in abundance.

666
00:33:35,122 --> 00:33:38,182
And on the other hand, if you have Bitcoin and the best type of

667
00:33:38,182 --> 00:33:41,752
money and your mindset is stupid, then everything will be shitty.

668
00:33:41,752 --> 00:33:45,472
But Bitcoin can be a tool to help you to reach this type of mindset.

669
00:33:45,822 --> 00:33:48,432
But also like if you're like in a good state.

670
00:33:49,012 --> 00:33:52,622
Also, without Bitcoin, you can be happy and you can be like successful

671
00:33:52,622 --> 00:33:54,532
and you have, can have a good life.

672
00:33:54,582 --> 00:34:00,702
So Bitcoin is not like the ultimate tool, but it's like a very, very good tool.

673
00:34:00,732 --> 00:34:04,852
But also without Bitcoin, you can really thrive and have a good life.

674
00:34:04,972 --> 00:34:05,712
Absolutely.

675
00:34:05,872 --> 00:34:11,952
Um, I know you went on a long meditational retreat and even lived in a forest.

676
00:34:12,172 --> 00:34:15,512
for a while, like on berries and, um, mushrooms and stuff.

677
00:34:15,892 --> 00:34:20,532
And, uh, that, like, I guess that was your spiritual journey.

678
00:34:20,532 --> 00:34:23,712
Like just to find, find the meaning of your life,

679
00:34:23,712 --> 00:34:24,022
I guess.

680
00:34:24,232 --> 00:34:25,022
Yes, sure.

681
00:34:25,042 --> 00:34:28,252
Because, and before I did this, I was like DJing.

682
00:34:28,262 --> 00:34:31,732
So I was like, I'm playing in clubs and I'm fast DJing.

683
00:34:31,732 --> 00:34:32,852
Yes, yes, yes.

684
00:34:32,922 --> 00:34:34,682
And I mean, this was an awesome time.

685
00:34:34,972 --> 00:34:38,852
But I realized what I'm doing here is satisfying my ego.

686
00:34:39,282 --> 00:34:43,022
So I was just like fulfilling my ego and everyone was like, Oh, Mark, so cool.

687
00:34:43,022 --> 00:34:43,272
Yeah.

688
00:34:43,272 --> 00:34:44,142
Party, party.

689
00:34:44,142 --> 00:34:46,472
And, and this really satisfied my ego.

690
00:34:46,472 --> 00:34:51,402
But within I felt there, there was, there was like emptiness.

691
00:34:52,122 --> 00:34:55,302
And then I realized, wow, life is so simple.

692
00:34:55,302 --> 00:34:59,592
And what fills me with, from within, it's like really simple things.

693
00:34:59,612 --> 00:35:04,082
Go in the forest, have some time for yourself, make a walk in the nature,

694
00:35:04,152 --> 00:35:06,992
go barefoot or Do a little meditation.

695
00:35:07,082 --> 00:35:07,232
Yeah.

696
00:35:07,232 --> 00:35:10,652
And eat good foods and have like good R routines.

697
00:35:10,652 --> 00:35:13,262
So good, good daily routines, for example.

698
00:35:13,262 --> 00:35:14,132
Um, yeah.

699
00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:18,662
And don't have like bad habits, for example, like, um, uh, drinking

700
00:35:18,662 --> 00:35:22,382
lots of alcohol or going to parties with people and like doing

701
00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:24,152
lots of drug things or whatever.

702
00:35:24,392 --> 00:35:27,062
So I realized really like this minimalism.

703
00:35:27,457 --> 00:35:29,127
And this was even before Bitcoin.

704
00:35:29,147 --> 00:35:32,857
So I really had like this low time preference even before Bitcoin.

705
00:35:32,857 --> 00:35:37,377
And I don't do this because I wanted to starve myself or something like that.

706
00:35:37,377 --> 00:35:40,637
I did this to actually upgrade my life.

707
00:35:40,677 --> 00:35:46,407
So from the outside, it looks like I'm a really minimalistic guy, but

708
00:35:46,417 --> 00:35:50,237
actually I'm not a minimalistic guy because I'm actually a maximalistic

709
00:35:50,247 --> 00:35:56,017
guy because you need minimalism for maximum type of happiness.

710
00:35:56,677 --> 00:36:03,527
Because like really minimalism, exactly, exactly, because life really is so, so

711
00:36:03,567 --> 00:36:06,337
simple and you really need so few things.

712
00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:10,887
And I mean, it's all right if you have like a big car or like

713
00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:15,607
if you do like crazy things, but you always have to be careful to

714
00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,037
not be attached to those things.

715
00:36:17,067 --> 00:36:19,387
If you do this without attachment, it's not a problem.

716
00:36:19,837 --> 00:36:23,287
But oftentimes people, they say, ah, no, no, I'm not attached.

717
00:36:23,287 --> 00:36:28,517
And then the big car gets broken and then they cry because they were attached.

718
00:36:28,977 --> 00:36:32,707
And this is like the tricky thing where you have to be careful.

719
00:36:32,797 --> 00:36:33,737
You can do everything.

720
00:36:33,737 --> 00:36:38,377
You can make parties, you can go to clubs, everything, but you have to be careful

721
00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:39,957
to not be attached to those things.

722
00:36:39,977 --> 00:36:42,897
And oftentimes people get attached pretty quickly.

723
00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:43,157
Yeah.

724
00:36:43,187 --> 00:36:45,747
And this is like always what you have to train because.

725
00:36:46,232 --> 00:36:48,522
Always every day you have to start again.

726
00:36:48,562 --> 00:36:52,742
So if you were like in a retreat and have now this nice mindset, it helps

727
00:36:52,802 --> 00:36:56,992
you nothing for today because every day you have to start from zero and

728
00:36:57,022 --> 00:37:00,712
every day begins from, from scratch, not just every day, every moment and

729
00:37:00,722 --> 00:37:03,962
every moment you have to try to be yourself and not be distracted by

730
00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:05,792
the noise and focus on the signal.

731
00:37:06,242 --> 00:37:07,092
And this is like a.

732
00:37:07,632 --> 00:37:12,452
Lifelong meditation or focus or whatever you want to name it.

733
00:37:12,842 --> 00:37:13,202
Yeah.

734
00:37:13,622 --> 00:37:14,112
For me,

735
00:37:14,142 --> 00:37:20,502
like, uh, I, I've been close to death a couple of times in my life, mostly on,

736
00:37:20,832 --> 00:37:28,062
on ships in storms, hurricanes, and, uh, really, uh, had to think through like,

737
00:37:28,152 --> 00:37:35,362
uh, what am I doing with my life and realizing how, how limit, what a limited

738
00:37:35,362 --> 00:37:37,382
amount of time we have on this earth.

739
00:37:37,382 --> 00:37:37,592
Yeah.

740
00:37:38,517 --> 00:37:40,877
And what you realize when you experience that is that.

741
00:37:42,022 --> 00:37:47,062
Each and every moment is your last chance to enjoy that specific moment.

742
00:37:47,552 --> 00:37:53,822
So if you're consumed by anxiety or you're irritated or you're angry or

743
00:37:54,352 --> 00:38:00,022
anything on the negative emotional spectrum, then that moment is lost forever

744
00:38:00,212 --> 00:38:02,632
and you lost a chance to enjoy life.

745
00:38:03,382 --> 00:38:03,662
Yes.

746
00:38:03,672 --> 00:38:06,102
So, uh, and also like.

747
00:38:08,467 --> 00:38:12,217
I came to a point in life where I was totally satisfied.

748
00:38:12,247 --> 00:38:20,277
I owned a toothbrush, a laptop, a guitar, and 10 t shirts, 10 pairs

749
00:38:20,277 --> 00:38:26,887
of underwear, and 10 pairs of socks, like, two pants and one pair of shoes.

750
00:38:27,687 --> 00:38:33,337
Uh, and I had just paid off my student loan, so I was free as like a very,

751
00:38:33,337 --> 00:38:35,077
very satisfying state to be in.

752
00:38:35,577 --> 00:38:40,117
Two weeks later, I met my wife and I started a family, you know,

753
00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:42,137
back to another type of rat race.

754
00:38:42,197 --> 00:38:48,037
And then you need stuff again, but, uh, um, but I mean, there's really

755
00:38:48,077 --> 00:38:56,567
something to find there in, in figuring out that not needing stuff is a key to,

756
00:38:58,017 --> 00:38:58,747
to abundance,

757
00:38:59,117 --> 00:38:59,597
to.

758
00:39:01,282 --> 00:39:06,912
To freeing your mind and being able to become what you

759
00:39:06,912 --> 00:39:09,562
were always supposed to be.

760
00:39:09,572 --> 00:39:17,382
There's a David Bowie quote about that, like, getting older is just the process of

761
00:39:17,412 --> 00:39:19,602
becoming who you were always meant to be.

762
00:39:20,617 --> 00:39:23,037
And I think that's, that's true for a

763
00:39:23,857 --> 00:39:24,897
life well lived.

764
00:39:24,967 --> 00:39:25,207
Yes.

765
00:39:25,217 --> 00:39:28,167
But just if you're like connected to your inner self, because

766
00:39:28,197 --> 00:39:29,747
just getting older and like

767
00:39:30,697 --> 00:39:32,427
having anything, no, that doesn't work.

768
00:39:32,687 --> 00:39:36,027
It only works if you actively work on improving

769
00:39:36,027 --> 00:39:36,317
yourself.

770
00:39:36,347 --> 00:39:39,617
And because there's also like the speaking of time heals everything,

771
00:39:39,617 --> 00:39:41,067
because this is also not true.

772
00:39:41,927 --> 00:39:43,557
If you're just like doing the same.

773
00:39:44,112 --> 00:39:45,432
Stupid things every day.

774
00:39:45,432 --> 00:39:47,292
Again, time will help nothing.

775
00:39:47,292 --> 00:39:49,972
I mean, you will just get more sick and more sick and

776
00:39:49,982 --> 00:39:51,652
time is not healing anything.

777
00:39:51,792 --> 00:39:57,202
So it's like the dedication to like a meaningful life and being

778
00:39:57,202 --> 00:40:00,842
focused in the here and now this is what heals and what helps and

779
00:40:00,842 --> 00:40:02,992
what makes you successful or happy.

780
00:40:03,232 --> 00:40:08,852
Because also it's just like, it's so crazy because life is just in the here

781
00:40:08,852 --> 00:40:13,537
and now there is no future or Uh, past, this is just a concept in our mind.

782
00:40:13,617 --> 00:40:17,847
This is nothing you can go or no one was ever in the past.

783
00:40:18,237 --> 00:40:20,027
It's just the concept in our mind.

784
00:40:20,247 --> 00:40:25,137
And it's just like, because at some point we have to in this, like in this type of

785
00:40:25,137 --> 00:40:29,357
reality in this physical body, we have to experience it like in some linear way.

786
00:40:29,687 --> 00:40:33,587
So your mind makes up this linear journey where there's the past and the future,

787
00:40:33,857 --> 00:40:36,067
but this is really not like the key.

788
00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:38,747
So this is, it's, it's really like just distraction.

789
00:40:38,747 --> 00:40:42,527
There's just like the here and now, and also like just the here and

790
00:40:42,527 --> 00:40:43,887
now is where you have influence.

791
00:40:44,227 --> 00:40:48,087
So you're here and now with your physical body here, you can do something.

792
00:40:48,087 --> 00:40:50,207
For example, we can have a nice talk here.

793
00:40:50,672 --> 00:40:55,742
But it's almost irrelevant what happens in Afghanistan or Iraq.

794
00:40:55,742 --> 00:40:58,032
And most people, they are focused not in the here and now

795
00:40:58,032 --> 00:40:59,142
with their physical presence.

796
00:40:59,472 --> 00:41:03,382
So they are like in the TV and then there was a war there and this and that.

797
00:41:03,682 --> 00:41:06,832
And also they are not like in the here and now from the time

798
00:41:06,832 --> 00:41:08,282
perspective, they are in the future.

799
00:41:08,282 --> 00:41:10,312
And if you're in the future, you're always like frightened.

800
00:41:10,837 --> 00:41:12,487
So this is always to frighten people.

801
00:41:12,487 --> 00:41:13,777
They are scared about everything.

802
00:41:13,777 --> 00:41:17,167
Oh, world war and this and that and in the here and now.

803
00:41:17,167 --> 00:41:19,387
You, there is no, you are not scared.

804
00:41:19,417 --> 00:41:22,827
You're always like, there, there is no, no, no.

805
00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:23,247
Yeah.

806
00:41:23,427 --> 00:41:24,297
Anxiety.

807
00:41:24,507 --> 00:41:26,667
And the other people are the people who are in the past.

808
00:41:26,667 --> 00:41:27,777
They're always depressive.

809
00:41:27,807 --> 00:41:28,827
Oh, the good times.

810
00:41:28,827 --> 00:41:33,087
And oh, it was, it was so nice and And this is also the good old days.

811
00:41:33,117 --> 00:41:34,167
Yes, the good old days.

812
00:41:34,167 --> 00:41:35,547
And this is also distraction.

813
00:41:35,547 --> 00:41:36,987
There is no good old days.

814
00:41:37,317 --> 00:41:39,657
There is just the here and now, the good old days.

815
00:41:39,687 --> 00:41:40,227
This is just.

816
00:41:40,452 --> 00:41:43,652
Memory in your brain and you're attached to this memory and

817
00:41:43,652 --> 00:41:46,952
therefore you're suffering because the good old days are gone.

818
00:41:46,972 --> 00:41:47,492
They are gone.

819
00:41:47,502 --> 00:41:48,592
They are not here anymore.

820
00:41:48,632 --> 00:41:50,272
And you're thinking about them in

821
00:41:50,282 --> 00:41:50,862
the now.

822
00:41:50,922 --> 00:41:51,292
Yes.

823
00:41:51,452 --> 00:41:56,172
And also like the, the, the, also like you're thinking of the past is so,

824
00:41:56,502 --> 00:42:02,877
Emma, so, so messed up because The past, how you, how you realize the past

825
00:42:02,877 --> 00:42:07,307
is not how the past was, because for example, if you're in a happy state

826
00:42:07,307 --> 00:42:11,367
right now, then probably you will go back to the past and then you will say,

827
00:42:11,517 --> 00:42:13,367
Oh, my school time was really good.

828
00:42:13,577 --> 00:42:16,757
But if you're in a fucked up state right now and you go to the past,

829
00:42:16,757 --> 00:42:19,537
then the past will feel like, Oh, I had a horrible childhood.

830
00:42:19,837 --> 00:42:23,937
So the past, what you experience in your mind is not.

831
00:42:24,137 --> 00:42:25,847
What the reality is, no, no.

832
00:42:25,857 --> 00:42:26,767
Yeah, no.

833
00:42:26,767 --> 00:42:27,607
Yeah, exactly.

834
00:42:27,887 --> 00:42:29,977
And, uh, luckily for us, our,

835
00:42:30,027 --> 00:42:37,077
our brains, I mean, when we think about the future, we're biased to, uh, to see

836
00:42:37,077 --> 00:42:42,967
risks and, uh, you know, have negative, as you say, we're worried about the future.

837
00:42:43,457 --> 00:42:45,317
And, but when we think about the past.

838
00:42:46,172 --> 00:42:51,742
Uh, oftentimes we, uh, we forget the, the, the harder memories

839
00:42:51,742 --> 00:42:53,212
and we remember the good times.

840
00:42:53,792 --> 00:42:57,692
There's, there's like something there that it's, it's easier to remember

841
00:42:57,692 --> 00:43:00,482
good things and, uh, than bad ones.

842
00:43:01,482 --> 00:43:03,472
Anyway, Mark, thank you very much for this.

843
00:43:03,662 --> 00:43:06,832
I'm so grateful to be in this hotel and be a part of this.

844
00:43:06,962 --> 00:43:08,172
event of this community.

845
00:43:08,222 --> 00:43:09,392
I absolutely love it.

846
00:43:09,512 --> 00:43:13,342
And if you have your, if you're traveling around these parts of

847
00:43:13,342 --> 00:43:13,722
Europe,

848
00:43:14,502 --> 00:43:17,002
make sure to visit Hotel Princess.

849
00:43:17,312 --> 00:43:20,242
It's an absolutely fantastic place.

850
00:43:20,342 --> 00:43:23,902
And I wish you all the best of luck in your future endeavors.

851
00:43:23,972 --> 00:43:25,602
And you're doing a great thing here.

852
00:43:25,622 --> 00:43:26,712
And I'm so glad that you

853
00:43:27,122 --> 00:43:28,042
found yourself.

854
00:43:28,112 --> 00:43:29,582
Super honored, Knut.

855
00:43:29,722 --> 00:43:30,322
Thanks a lot.

856
00:43:30,342 --> 00:43:31,942
And thanks, man.

857
00:43:32,512 --> 00:43:33,142
We are all Bitcoin.

858
00:43:33,832 --> 00:43:34,702
We are all Bitcoin.
