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The parallels between what's going on in today's America and around the world in Weimar, Germany, man, it's just you have perversion run wild.

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They can't hide.

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You start to see it and you start to understand where we are in history.

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And I think literally America is sitting at the same point where Germany was in Weimar.

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And they are also sitting at the same point as Russia was before the Bolshevik revolution.

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And to see all these parallels and to see what has been omitted from history and what has been outright overtly lied about in history, it should concern everybody.

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and you should learn it so that you can help other people understand where we're at.

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All right. We're live. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining me for another episode today.

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I am very excited for this one. I've been trying to get this gentleman on for probably longer than

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anyone else. I can't remember the first time I actually messaged you, but I remember,

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I think I messaged you in 2023, which was right when I started. And then I saw you at Bitcoin

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in Nashville and we shook hands and met at the Bitcoin park and then things keep happening. It

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kept getting bounced around, but I'm super excited to finally get you here, Shane Hazel. It's a,

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it's a great pleasure. Ben. Yeah. It's a pleasure to be here. I always, you know,

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appreciate a guy that's willing to have you on the platform and have great conversations. I know

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you've, you've had some amazing people on the show and it's, um, you know, for not a lack of

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trying for God's sakes that we we've taken so long. I don't know. Maybe that's just the way

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supposed to be you're supposed to wait for the good uh the good interviews for a long time build

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a little suspense exactly and as things are unfolding in the world right now we just have

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more and more talk about this very relevant because as you will share with my listeners you have

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a deep experience in how the u.s military works how our foreign policy works and that's more

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important for people to understand now than ever who's really in control here where where the money

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is being thrown around to cause the problems we're seeing.

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So I think it's meant to be.

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I was going to say, today may have been fairly serendipitous.

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So I hope people will keep an open mind during this conversation.

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I think we're going to get into some pretty gritty realities of the world.

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And my intention is not to make anybody super upset,

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to make anybody worry or go build a doomsday bunker.

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that i'm not really you know that much of a doom lord right as i i'm that guy that's always looking

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for a picture but um yeah the the current circumstances and where we're at in this world

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today it's not one of those things i thought you know where we'd be just even a few years ago um

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a lot has come to my attention a lot of research has been done i've been fairly quiet in my own

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um you know productions and taking a step back for a lot of reasons just so that i could kind

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of get to the ground truth of some things. And, um, I, like I said, I just hope everybody will

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approach this with a open mind and see that we're probably pretty reliant and consistent with first

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principles as we're, as we're going through this. Beautifully said. I couldn't agree more. It's,

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I have made lots of friends in my life. I have lots of connections and no matter how careful I

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try to be on some of these issues people come at you so yeah this is the the truth-seeking reality

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this is gonna happen when you start digging into real stuff it's inevitable so you gotta

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accept it and embrace it sometimes so let's start with your story man you have an incredible story

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uh you've been through the u.s military you've been in u.s politics on the debate stage on

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national television you started working hard with bitcoin veterans and pushing bitcoin nostril to

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the world so give me a background like i don't even know where to start on this one so you can

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start wherever you want i think probably the military experience is a good good place due

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to what we'll be talking about today yeah i guess i could start off there um i i think like a lot of

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other guys that were about my age i was 21 years old um about to enter my last year of college in

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2001 when the tray towers were um detonated i'm not gonna say they were just boom first one first

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first cancellation has already happened yeah you know when when that whole debacle went down i was

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21 years old uh joined the united states marine corps i got into um forced reconnaissance which at

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the time was special operations for the marine corps i did a couple of big deployments for the

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initial invasion into iraq in 2003 and then my platoon was relieved and and we went back and did

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some training for a few months and we were back in theater um we left in april of 2004 on a mew

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saw Najaf, the Battle of Najaf and Fallujah up close and personal, door-to-door, you know, urban combat.

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Woke up, a guy named John Taylor Gatto was the guy that woke me up.

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And as I was reading this, I was literally sitting in on my bed in a tent in Fallujah after we had come off of the battlefield for the past month.

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you know, my journey into the Liberty movement and waking up a lot of people will say red

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pill or whatever, but, um, red, that red pill kind of found its way into the Ron Paul candidacy

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in 2008. And then again, in 2012, he turned me on to Austrian economics. And, and I found a lady

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named Chrisanne Hall, who was deeply outspoken. And she was also an attorney that turned me into

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a constitutional savant, so to speak. And, you know, seeing what was going on and understanding

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where we were in the world and what was going on in the US government, I was extremely

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not, I was, I was somewhat depressed. Right. And, um, you know, at the time I was fighting

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some post-traumatic stress, um, dealing with the world around me, uh, was a new father at the time.

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of kicks in. You're like, I got to make this world a better place for my kids. So I decided

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to run for office. I ran for U.S. Congress the first time in 2018. And we did pretty well as a

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first timer. A lot of a lot of hijinks going on behind the scenes with that. We went from polling

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70 to 30 percent over the incumbent to losing 70 to 30 percent in the primary. This was when I ran

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the hijinks that was going on behind the scenes, the backstabbing, really the inertia of the state

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itself, who it allows, who it doesn't allow, and all the gatekeeping, the journalism, the social

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media that was also already like, we're not giving you a blue check or any of that kind of stuff. Back

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in the day when Twitter would say, hey, this guy's actually legitimate and he's running for Congress,

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we got none of those things um so that further entrenched my understanding of you know where we

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quote-unquote crypto and you know those are some hard what year was this for time there was a block

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wars it was like 2017 when i started exactly when i was shitcoining my ass off too yeah same story

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Yeah, for all of you out there that just became Bitcoin maximalists and never had to climb Mount Stupid, good for you.

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Like that's, you know, a rare breed.

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Yeah, well done Bitcoiners that are out there that have brought people directly into the mainstream of Bitcoin, right?

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But yeah, it was kind of during that same time as I'm evolving through understanding what happens behind the scenes in politics and my growing understanding for what Bitcoin was.

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man, you really need to be on the Bitcoin-only side of things.

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He introduced me to South of Dean in person at my first Bitcoin conference in 2022.

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I'd already run for U.S. Senate at that point in 2020, and I was running for governor of Georgia here in 2022.

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After hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of hours of study, I was starting to hit the seed as a governor candidate here in Georgia.

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And, you know, the whole thing was, you know, we needed jobs, we needed energy, and we needed better money. And I was just like, this fits hand in hand with what we should be doing and what we should be putting out there. And obviously, being new to the Bitcoin scene, especially at that point, Bitcoiners weren't real responsive to politicians at that point.

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they weren't like, oh, you know, this, this could actually be a big leap if we turn out for a guy

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in Georgia, which was, you know, understandable in terms of being kind of a unknown in the Bitcoin

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space. Like you, this is a name economy and, and, and rightly so, right. You, you kind of have to

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come into Bitcoin, uh, prove yourself and prove, you know, the base principles that you're willing

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to stick to those things. So that's kind of, you know, my backstory getting into, um, Bitcoin and

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And the big bad MIC ended up being the last.

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The Military Industrial Complex.

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Yeah So I left the military industrial complex got in with a startup which eventually made some tech that the MIC wanted and they bought that So I had to get out of that again and been in the Bitcoin space ever since And I got to say you know if anybody out there looking like the Bitcoin space is a

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fantastic space to be earning, you know, or I should say stacking fiat so that you can

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stack sats out of.

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And you're a big part of Bitcoin veterans.

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Did you, were you part of starting Bitcoin veterans?

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You've been in there since the beginning.

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What's the story about that?

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Tell us a little bit about that for any veterans that may be listening.

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This is somewhere they need to go for sure.

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Yeah, I had actually started this thing prior to that called the Brave Mission, which was for post-traumatic stress.

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And started working with people with post-traumatic stress, mostly veterans.

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But the clubhouse days when we started having the ability to get on a space and interact with each other and come up and conduct it a lot like a radio show was kind of my entry into the Bitcoin maximal space in terms of interfacing with the community.

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That obviously transformed into X.

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And I just saw like all these little veterans popping up in the Bitcoin spaces.

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That was back in the days of Cafe Bitcoin.

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um and so yeah we i you know i started looking at it and going guys like there there are a lot

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of veterans in this space and let's see what we could do we formed a chat um i think on twitter

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it filled up immediately we maxed out and i was like we got to do more um so yeah we founded

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bitcoin veterans and originally we had five we're we're at four we unfortunately had to part ways

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with one of the founders.

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this thing has just exploded.

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We've got thousands of members

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in active chats across Signal now.

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It's bitcoinveterans.org if anybody's interested.

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This is just a group of people

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that is very much decentralized.

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We try to keep groups to about 150 members

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Dunbar's number is very important

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in decentralization.

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And we've got groups from Intel cybersecurity. We've got our daily show that we do. We've got our weekly show. We've got the Citadel network. We've got regional networks. We've got people who are doing things with radios.

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Our telehash team that's working on getting another telehash ready for the veterans event on November 10th, I should say Veterans Day.

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And then, you know, just other organizations within Bitcoin Veterans that are all about building community and linking like-minded individuals together within this space that are actually taking action.

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And, you know, out of some of these things that, you know, we do at Bitcoin Veterans, we were some of the first guys in the scene up in Western North Carolina.

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And thanks to the Bitcoin community for helping us there, I think we raised like $120,000 within a week.

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And we literally had to say, stop, like, don't give us any more money because our entire plan was to go up there and find another veteran.

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And, you know, one that was working in his community and a lot of what we do in special operations is forced multiplication where we'll find indigenous personnel that are doing good things this time, obviously, inside the United States with a permissive environment.

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And you check them out, you vet them, and then you enable them and build them a network and help them help their community.

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And so we found a great guy, resilient recovery. And he was another ranger, sniper instructor, absolute killer guy up there, James. And we ended up getting that guy about a Bitcoin at the time. So about $100,000. We've since put in about $126,000.

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And that guy has done nonstop work in Western North Carolina, you know, regardless of politics, regardless of county lines, city municipalities.

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This guy has just been an absolute, you know, force to be reckoned with.

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And that's, you know, thanks to the Bitcoin Veterans Network and everybody out there within Bitcoin that donated that we were able to continue to do that.

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And we've got people on the ground that are still reporting and going through all these things with those guys.

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So yeah, Bitcoin Veterans has grown into this amazing organization.

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We're going to be partnering with Bitcoin Park in the future to run events in Austin, D.C. and Nashville.

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There's such a, you know, between the energy and the experience and the know-how of this group,

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it's like, you know, if the Bitcoin community needs something or they need, you know, people with understanding and experiences,

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it's a great place to be able to reach into and be like, hey, you know,

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is anybody interested in possibly, you know,

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helping out with this organization or helping out with this project or service

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or, and so I'm, I'm extremely proud and lucky to be, you know,

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one of the founders of this organization.

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And I think they're going to do some pretty incredible things.

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Yeah. It's super cool.

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And I'll tell you one of the things I've been looking for,

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I'm curious if you guys have any of this going on is gun information and

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training and self-defense type stuff. I feel like, I mean,

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there would be no better community of Bitcoiners to chat to about that.

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Do you have any plans for that?

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Or do you have some enclave somewhere for that?

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So we, if you would like to join Bitcoin veterans, like I said,

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Bitcoinveterans.org, you can go in there, sign up,

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and that's where we'll plug you into the chats.

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Awesome.

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We have our pew pew chat.

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You know, as gun bunnies, we do take it very seriously, obviously.

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And we all love our guns, but we also love to have a really good time, right?

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Like this is one of those things in communities where we're into dark humor, we're into joking with each other.

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There's nothing that's off limits. Freedom of speech is paramount.

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And yeah, we've actually conducted one.

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Actually, I'm sorry, we've conducted two range days so far.

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We did one in June of last year with Bitcoin Park.

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Then we did one for the veteran community and the Bitcoin community in July during the conference last year in Nashville.

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We've got another one that's going to happen in Juneau, Alaska for the Bitcoin Alaska conference, which is the first Bitcoin veterans conference being put on.

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So we'll have that one. And then we're also planning for the 11th of November, the day after the the kickoff of this partnership with Bitcoin Park in Nashville.

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We'll have one there.

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So if anybody's interested, yeah, we'll have a bunch of guys from special operations who are the instructors.

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We'll be probably just learning pistol.

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We may throw in a carbine section or something like that.

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But, yeah, if anybody's interested in that, just contact us.

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We'll get you plugged in.

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And we can probably support about 20 to 30 of those people who want to go out and get expert instruction from the shooters.

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And it's a, it's a great time.

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It's out in Cookville and just east of Nashville.

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It's a beautiful place in this valley of mountain range at a dust off ranch,

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which I'm actually wearing right here.

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It's funny that came up and I'm just lounging around in this t-shirt today,

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but it's a, yeah, a beautiful place, amazing people,

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a wealth of knowledge from guys with a ton of experience that, yeah,

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we're, we're all into guns and,

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and making sure that people know how to use them responsibly for sure.

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that's awesome i think that's going to be increasingly important as more people especially

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here in america learn that we no one's coming for us if if things happen no one's going to come

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bail us out and save us if things get crazy here and i that has been one of the big pieces of my own

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political change journey i grew up in the northwest where it was just extremely lefty blue and that was

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me for my whole life i would say until just a few years ago honestly when i moved to austin texas

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and realized it's way safer here i can people are walking out at nighttime and it's okay because

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everyone has guns that's like the opposite of what i've been told like and that's actually kind of

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makes sense when you think about like oh shit like these people are actually having to think twice

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before robbing you and murdering you because they don't know if you have a gun on your hip

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hard target so the the vast majority of people are good people and they they carry self-defense

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weapons and things are safer and that was kind of a big moment for me like okay i was just totally

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wrong on that policy my whole life i've been indoctrinated just like you talked about yeah

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you know and this is the thing is you know i really kind of go down this path with a lot of

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people is you don't realize in america um how how much you have been indoctrinated because they use

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military weapons-grade indoctrination tactics.

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And they start when you're five years old.

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And so you can go to the school in the Northwest

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in a liberal area.

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in a very, quote-unquote, conservative area, right?

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and then divide people

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so that they don't really come together as a union, right?

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Like this, that the power of people is in numbers, right?

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Is it's ideas and numbers.

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And when you, when you, when you pervert the ideas and you indoctrinate those within certain,

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you know, cultures, uh, geographically, what you get is this idea that, you know, people

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on the West coast are far different from anybody else.

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And I think one of the things that I've been taught in my travels, especially, uh, overseas,

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We had a cook in Najaf, and he was a local Shiite.

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we had just come off of some mission, and I was starving.

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And he said, hey, can I make you something?

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And he brings me over this beautiful plate of some lamb and flatbread

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and a little bit of the yogurt.

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Man, he sat down and we broke bread together.

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He's got kids in the area.

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He wants them to be safe.

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He wants them to grow up and be happy and at peace.

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When you start to see that's what most people in this world want,

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Like that, like that's the underlining, like, Hey, you know, this is kind of why we're here.

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And this is what we're doing is to, you know, to, to have children and have them inherit a future.

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It's like, well, what are we, what are we arguing about?

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You know, is, is it, is it the state of affairs?

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Is it how we get there?

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Um, and at the end of the day, it's like, man, if we could just all kind of come to grips with the fact that we're all trying to, to, you know, raise a family and be at most peace as possible,

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then you start to look at the world and go, all right, well, who's not doing this, right?

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And I think that probably opens the door into the broader conversation.

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It's like, man, we can tell pretty clearly these days who's on the side of peace and who's not.

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Yeah I think that a great transition because and this is one of the things that us rabbit hole divers inevitably run into as we are trying to find the truth in everything And as you said the vast majority of people are good people who want peace and love in the world and in order to get there

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a few of us have to do the dirty work and call out the bad guys who are pushing the opposite

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and it's never a fun conversation it never makes friends but it has to be addressed and put out

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there so people are aware of it and i don't think that i'm not going to go up to every single person

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talk about this but the people it needs to be out there and so many people are scared of talking

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about it because as you go down this rabbit hole you learn that these same people who do not want

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peace and are always looking for war and conflict they have a lot of control over a lot of things

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including social media the the news the mainstream media on tv the educational system that you talked

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about the whole entertainment industry all of these different arms of being able to manipulate

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people in a certain way yeah and they have a lot of ability i didn't mention the whole banking

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system that's kind of important all of these pieces who are all controlled by a certain group

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that matters and we need to talk about that so what was your rabbit hole journey going into this

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stuff were you figuring this out back when you were reading books when you were in the marines

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or this come later no this was much later um and in the 2020s honestly um i i had been railing

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against this thing called the murder cult for a long time and i didn't it was kind of ambiguous

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right is like it was this this thing where i didn't see the connections until probably about

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halfway into the biden administration and um you know there's there's the idea that most of the

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presidents of the united states have been puppets but to whom right is like all right well you have

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your central you have your central banks right the central banks and and this is at the core of why

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we are in Bitcoin to begin with is we have a money that's designed to rob us of our time.

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And when you have a money that's designed to rob you of your time, there's nothing else on this

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planet that I think is worse than people and organizations out there that would do that to

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people. It's our most valuable asset. When we look at all the Bitcoin in the world, great. You got 21

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million Bitcoin, what good is it if you have five minutes to live? And so when we get down to this

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layer zero, which I think is the most important part of the Bitcoin community, is we're talking

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about the perseverance of your time, your effort, so that you can spend it within the constraints of

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how you see fit, and especially if you're peaceful. So when I started going down this path,

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what came to my attention was that obviously Biden was not in control of his own faculties.

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And anybody who thought that he might have been, boy, you know, obviously very, very wrong for a lot of reasons.

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And then you start to say, all right, well, then if he's not in charge, who's he surrounded with?

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And you started looking at it like guys like Anthony Blinken and the rest of his cabinet.

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And it just so happens that most of Biden's cabinet was either Jewish or part of AIPAC or part of some other organization.

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And you just keep going.

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So this started for me during that time.

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And I was like, that just doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.

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Then you start to see everything that's coming out.

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And you start to find out that most of media, like 99% of media, is also owned by Jews.

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And then you've got the porn industry, which, you know, has been ramming not only just, you know, gay, you know, gay agenda down our throats, but also now transsexual and pedo type of, you know, types of agenda, which is disgusting.

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At the same time, you've got a lot of the MIC, which is controlled at the higher levels by the same people.

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So and then I guess, you know, you start to you start to understand that this isn't just this administration.

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This was the last administration. When you look at who was really pushing the shots in the pharmaceutical industrial complex,

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that is almost exclusively Jewish between Pfizer and Moderna and the rest of these organizations that are out there.

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the, you know, this, this tyranny of COVID that was, you know, projected onto the people,

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the CDC, and most of the people who were involved at the, you know, the federal level were also

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Jewish. And man, at this point, you're like, this does not seem like a coincidence. And you start

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doing math. You know, Bitcoiners are good at this kind of thing. You start doing the math,

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and you find out that, you know, the global population, the global Jewish population is

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somewhere possibly under 2%. And lo and behold, they hold all these positions of power within

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extremely powerful networks. And then at the same time, you've got this one guy named Jeffrey Epstein,

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who really paints a pretty interesting picture between him, Diddy Weinstein, and the rest of

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these terrible organizations. You start to see like, hey, this guy's related to Mossad

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through Ghislaine Maxwell, whose dad was basically the Israeli super spy.

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And her dad also wrote all of our history books, by the way.

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Yeah, that's a crazy moment when you realize that those Glencoe McGraw Hill textbooks,

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we all read in history class.

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That was his company.

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That's his company.

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All these things were written.

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So all the history we were taught had a very specific agenda.

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And as those of us go through these rabbit holes of looking back through the decades in

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the last hundred years, so many lies.

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so and i've been i've been sprinkling in throughout the every now and then i just bring up europe of

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the last battle i'm sure you've heard of this documentary series yeah i've seen it to me that

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was my big oh fuck moment of wow the amount of lies that we've been told is insane and it all

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comes from the same group yeah and and that's the thing is if you think reporting is bad history is

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way worse um you know because you know this is something that they can go back in time they can

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scrapbooks. They can, um, you know, they can erase them from history. They can erase, you know,

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an entire, you know, entire genocides. And that's kind of where I was going next is, you know, this,

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that was, that was what got me, my interest peaked in going down this rabbit hole. It was just like,

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oh my gosh, the coincidences are just, they're not possible. And now we've, you know, when we

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talk about conspiracy, like you literally have a conspiracy at this point, um, then, you know,

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comes history. And to your point, boy, um, you want to talk about one of the most rude awakenings

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that you can possibly have as you go back and, you know, especially as a Marine who's been

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further indoctrinated with, you know, you know, back-to-back world champs and all this kind of

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stuff. And you're just like, Oh, like this is, this is very difficult. There was, there was

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absolutely no need for America to get into the war and, uh, world war II with Europe, right? Like

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It was not our fight.

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Had we been attacked in Japan, sure we had been.

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Had we, did we know that the attack was coming?

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We did.

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And we still let it happen so that we could still carry out the atrocity of dropping.

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Could you put a little bit of detail on that?

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Because I think that's one that most people don't know is that there were people raising the alarm that, hey, there are Japanese planes coming.

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We should do something.

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And they were cut off.

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They were shut down.

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What were the details on that?

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So over a week in advance, we had been doing some things out in the Pacific Theater as Americans in that time that weren't great to begin with.

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Whenever you start poking the empire of Japan, which, let's face it, anybody that doesn't want to give Japan the credit that it deserves for being the empire it was up until the early 1900s, absolutely do so at your own dismay.

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But Japan was a formidable seafaring Navy. They had, you know, they had the the mindset of the samurai and they were weaponizing at, you know, higher scales.

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And so as we were poking around, taking over islands, trying to establish trade routes into, you know, more of the South Pacific, this is where I think, you know, we get the intelligence, you know, a couple of weeks in advance that there's going to be an attack on Pearl Harbor.

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And FDR knew about this. The generals, I believe, knew about it as well. And they allowed it to happen so that they could enter the war.

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And at the time, they just happened to be using or, you know, happened to be taking on German defectors.

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And, you know, when you get into, I think it was Operation Paperclip, if you will, that we had a whole bunch of German scientists pulled over, some of which were also Jewish, to start building a nuclear bomb.

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And when you look at what we did to Nagasaki and Hiroshima, like you can't help but think like they wanted to do this.

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They wanted to show the world they wanted to establish dominance for as long as possible.

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And so they they attack Pearl Harbor. We get pulled into that war.

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And then, you know, your axis of good guys and bad guys and, you know, tangling alliances.

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Thanks there, George Washington. We'll totally forget you in your farewell address so that we can go to war with these, quote unquote, Nazis, which is also a pejorative that Jewish people put on Germans.

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And so I should probably rewind and back up history a little bit, because when we look at what Europe was going through during that time, Europe was, and especially Russia, was facing the Bolshevik Revolution prior to all of this.

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And it's never taught, you know, 60 to 80 million souls were absolutely perished from the earth.

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80% of the leadership of the Bolsheviks was Jewish.

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Most of the gulags were run by Jews.

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And when they came through, communists, you know, communism being Jewish.

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This is not an easy thing for a lot of people to hear, but it is.

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and you look at Karl Marx and you look at, you know, who, who these people were. Um, I think it

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was generally you go to, um, that kind of led the charge and swept through not to mention Hottelmore,

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which was the, you know, basically the starving to death of another, I don't know, 10 to 12 million,

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um, you know, white Christians. So it's, you, you start to see that this was absolutely omitted from

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anything that we ever learned in history. All we ever heard about was 6 million Jews in Germany,

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6 million Jews. And that's actually just propaganda, right? And when we look at when this started,

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it kind of like you know when these guys started talking about Iran getting the bomb 40 years ago right Like they this close to getting a bomb Well the propaganda for 6 million Jews being exterminated in Europe started in the early 1900s

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And the New York Times has all the receipts that you need in terms of printing 6 million Jews, 6 million Jews.

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Meanwhile, if you look at the census before and after the war, the Jewish population actually gained a little bit of their population during the war.

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And so it begs the question is, what were we told about World War II, especially Germany?

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And I'm not a Hitler apologist, but I am one of those guys that have gone back and listened to his speeches in English now.

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I have read Mein Kampf and he came to kind of the surprising realization as we did.

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And, you know, when you read through Mein Kampf and you go, holy shit, man, like Hitler didn't hate Jews when he was young.

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He actually detested people who were, you know, bigoted towards them.

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And as he grew up and he took more of an interest in what was going on, he saw things that were going on in places like Berlin,

394
00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:38,139
which was kind of this haven of debauchery.

395
00:35:39,299 --> 00:35:46,659
And, you know, the arts and the plays and things like that were now being, you know,

396
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:53,159
taken over by Jews that were doing things like, you know, gay and drag and trans, you know,

397
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:54,979
and looking at those kind of things.

398
00:35:54,979 --> 00:36:01,919
And he became more and more and more concerned and then outright disgusted with what this

399
00:36:01,919 --> 00:36:09,099
faction of people who you know came into the country um was doing especially on the you know

400
00:36:09,099 --> 00:36:14,079
on the tail end of the bolshevik revolution they were they were scared of communism and

401
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:19,419
you know what we were told was so black and white about world war ii especially with hitler right

402
00:36:19,419 --> 00:36:24,799
like you can't say hitler you can't you can't say he had any good point ever you can't you you can't

403
00:36:24,799 --> 00:36:30,379
look at his background and and be an apologist you can't you can't do any of these things because

404
00:36:30,379 --> 00:36:38,639
it destroys the Jewish narrative, right? And there was a lot of money in this for Jews in

405
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:45,479
terms of reparations from the German people ever since World War II ended and the Soviet Union

406
00:36:45,479 --> 00:36:51,979
took over propaganda for the Jews to continue to tell lies. And when you look at the American

407
00:36:51,979 --> 00:36:58,439
Cross records for who was killed in concentration camps and what numbers they were killed at,

408
00:36:58,439 --> 00:37:05,099
you kind of arrive at, you know, this number of about 270,000, which good, bad, indifferent,

409
00:37:05,339 --> 00:37:09,359
like I'm not that guy that's going to sit there in an armchair quarterback, World War II,

410
00:37:09,579 --> 00:37:16,019
you know, to that degree. I will tell you that what we were told about the gas chambers and,

411
00:37:16,019 --> 00:37:25,219
you know, was, was totally false. The amount of people that they could gas and cremate on,

412
00:37:25,219 --> 00:37:35,399
on a daily basis is largely, largely exaggerated. And not only exaggerated, a lie to foment this

413
00:37:35,399 --> 00:37:40,399
hate against who these people were and what they were doing. And so I kind of come back to Hitler

414
00:37:40,399 --> 00:37:47,059
on this and you understand where Weimar was, their currency had been taken over and debased

415
00:37:47,059 --> 00:37:54,379
And people were working as slaves for the Rothbard, the Rothschild Bank, right?

416
00:37:54,499 --> 00:37:58,159
And the Rothschilds had banks all over Europe that was their family.

417
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:03,799
The Red Shield is basically what their name means.

418
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:11,799
And so as they were coming to grips with this and Hitler's rise to power, Hitler rose to power on nationalism.

419
00:38:12,219 --> 00:38:14,399
You know, he wanted to put the German people first.

420
00:38:14,399 --> 00:38:18,039
He was tired of them being fleeced by these out of control banks.

421
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:22,999
And so he stood up his own bank within Germany and he kicked the Rothschild bank out.

422
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:27,239
And this is what this is what exactly led to World War Two.

423
00:38:27,379 --> 00:38:32,919
It wasn't that he was rounding up Jews and putting them in, you know, gas chambers and gassing all of them.

424
00:38:32,999 --> 00:38:38,419
It was that now he controlled the money, which means he controlled the destiny for Germany.

425
00:38:38,479 --> 00:38:43,239
And Germany rose up from living in squalor.

426
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,139
Like literally people were starving in Weimar, Germany.

427
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:51,459
And within about five years, Hitler had corrected a lot of that course.

428
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:55,079
He had given a lot of jobs out in terms of, you know, the jobs program.

429
00:38:55,219 --> 00:38:57,139
And I'm not going to sit here and say I'm a socialist.

430
00:38:57,359 --> 00:38:58,159
And I'm not.

431
00:38:58,899 --> 00:39:04,919
But I don't think what we were told his socialism was, was what we understand it to be today.

432
00:39:04,919 --> 00:39:05,239
Right.

433
00:39:05,299 --> 00:39:07,779
Is he had a strong national pride.

434
00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:23,479
And when you look around, you know, this, the, the, the Roman salute and the, the, the fanfare that this man had for, you know, from his country, they loved him.

435
00:39:23,579 --> 00:39:29,719
I mean, they, they literally, I'm not saying it was all of them, but you don't get that kind of fanfare for a tyrant.

436
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:40,599
You know, people don't come out in masses and have ticker tape parades and, you know, wave the banner and support these guys and understand that they it was them against the world at that point.

437
00:39:40,659 --> 00:39:44,319
It was them against the rest of Europe and then obviously even the United States.

438
00:39:44,539 --> 00:39:47,359
And they were like, man, we are going what else can we do?

439
00:39:47,699 --> 00:39:54,259
What else can we do but protect our homeland to and really start to push these people off?

440
00:39:54,259 --> 00:40:07,919
And I mean, I bring it back to, you know, today that the parallels between what's going on in today's America and around the world in Weimar, Germany, man, it's just you have perversion run wild.

441
00:40:08,059 --> 00:40:09,719
You have corruption run wild.

442
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:19,359
You have media that is absolutely floundering in the face of, you know, the tech revolution that is, you know, X and Nostra, right?

443
00:40:19,379 --> 00:40:21,279
It's like you they can't hide.

444
00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:22,039
They can't go anywhere.

445
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:22,959
They can't do anything.

446
00:40:22,959 --> 00:40:24,779
and the secret's out.

447
00:40:24,919 --> 00:40:27,159
And it's just, you start to see it

448
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,999
and you start to understand where we are in history.

449
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,819
And I think literally America's sitting at the same point

450
00:40:33,819 --> 00:40:37,099
where Germany was in Weimar

451
00:40:37,099 --> 00:40:39,039
and they are also sitting at the same point

452
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,379
as Russia was before the Bolshevik revolution.

453
00:40:42,139 --> 00:40:44,339
And to see all these parallels

454
00:40:44,339 --> 00:40:47,699
and to see what has been omitted from history

455
00:40:47,699 --> 00:40:50,459
and what has been outright overtly lied about

456
00:40:50,459 --> 00:40:52,199
by Jews in history,

457
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:56,779
um it it should concern everybody and you should learn it so that you can

458
00:40:56,779 --> 00:40:59,199
help other people understand where we're at

459
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:09,239
yeah i couldn't agree more and this is the clearest example all of us bitcoiners have

460
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:17,519
seen the meme of the winners of all these wars are the ones that write history we know this we've

461
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:24,739
heard this but this is the first real jarring example of oh crap like actually everything i

462
00:41:24,739 --> 00:41:31,879
believed about this that i was shown in school through the jewish history textbooks and watching

463
00:41:31,879 --> 00:41:40,759
schindler's list as we all did which was based on a fictional book um and you start i think us

464
00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:46,279
bitcoins are naturally disagreeable people so when we hear that oh this documentary is the most

465
00:41:46,279 --> 00:41:52,219
banned thing ever you can't even post a link to europe of the last battle on twitter or instagram

466
00:41:52,219 --> 00:41:58,099
or anywhere it just blocks you it says no no you're not you can't post this have you ever tried

467
00:41:58,099 --> 00:42:02,799
that blew my mind i've never seen a link that was just blanket banned from the whole internet before

468
00:42:02,799 --> 00:42:09,899
yeah so for me and what i tell other people is hey maybe that means you should listen to this

469
00:42:09,899 --> 00:42:14,139
thing and see what it says you don't have to agree with everything but it might teach you some things

470
00:42:14,139 --> 00:42:15,719
and have some different perspectives.

471
00:42:15,859 --> 00:42:18,439
I think we should all be open now more than ever

472
00:42:18,439 --> 00:42:20,099
to all sorts of different perspectives

473
00:42:20,099 --> 00:42:23,259
because we know that there are so many lies out there.

474
00:42:23,699 --> 00:42:25,739
I talk about them on this podcast all the time.

475
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:27,279
Us Bitcoiners are talking about them a lot,

476
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:30,839
but I want more Bitcoiners to be more open.

477
00:42:30,959 --> 00:42:33,839
This is something I'm trying to push through Noster

478
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:38,119
and just getting people to continue digging into new ones

479
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:41,319
because a lot of Bitcoiners stay around Bitcoin

480
00:42:41,319 --> 00:42:43,459
and then some of them will look at the carnivore diet

481
00:42:43,459 --> 00:42:49,019
and we have daniel prince helped me into the whole chemtrails one which absolutely sucks that's

482
00:42:49,019 --> 00:42:55,639
another shitty one yeah but people are starting to spread out in these different directions

483
00:42:55,639 --> 00:43:04,019
and i think this is the one that a lot of people should focus on because this puts a lot of the

484
00:43:04,019 --> 00:43:09,479
pieces together and that was definitely mind-blowing for me we use these words like the globalists

485
00:43:09,479 --> 00:43:17,799
fiat um there might be a more specific term for where these things come from but most people are

486
00:43:17,799 --> 00:43:23,799
just scared to say it because it it's it's it is pointed you're you're pointing the finger at a

487
00:43:23,799 --> 00:43:30,059
group and you're it never applies to every single person in a group i know awesome jewish people

488
00:43:30,059 --> 00:43:37,519
yeah we're never saying that every one of them is bad but there is a problem when like you said

489
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:44,259
it's a tiny fraction of the population is causing all the wars they own all the banks all the porn

490
00:43:44,259 --> 00:43:50,019
industry all like yeah all the child sex trafficking i had ryan madden on talking uh on a podcast

491
00:43:50,019 --> 00:43:57,919
recently and that's pretty much all jewish run yeah this needs to be addressed i don't care how

492
00:43:57,919 --> 00:44:04,279
many people get mad about it and and send me mean messages it's just it has the book has to be open

493
00:44:04,279 --> 00:44:14,519
And those awesome Jewish people I know, a lot of them are pushing back in some way, but I want them to push back more.

494
00:44:14,879 --> 00:44:25,959
You know, like a lot of the ones I know that I consider like the really cool ones that I'm friends with, they are against the, you know, the genocide of Palestine and what Netanyahu is doing.

495
00:44:25,959 --> 00:44:27,739
and they will push back against that.

496
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,379
I still haven't found a single one that will actually watch Europa

497
00:44:31,379 --> 00:44:36,279
with an open mind, realize that the Holocaust is not what we were told.

498
00:44:38,139 --> 00:44:42,339
It's just too deeply ingrained in the brains, I think.

499
00:44:42,439 --> 00:44:44,059
And there are a few legends out there.

500
00:44:44,179 --> 00:44:45,159
Have you heard of David Cole?

501
00:44:45,399 --> 00:44:47,699
He did the documentary David Cole in Auschwitz.

502
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,199
I may have seen parts of it.

503
00:44:50,479 --> 00:44:52,439
I've consumed a lot of this information.

504
00:44:52,659 --> 00:44:54,339
I'm not familiar with his name, though.

505
00:44:54,439 --> 00:44:55,219
Yeah, this guy's a legend.

506
00:44:55,219 --> 00:45:07,479
So he was a, I don't remember what is, I think it was in the nineties or something, but he's a Jewish guy who just started asking questions and he went to Auschwitz and started, did a documentary there, just filming, asking them all these questions.

507
00:45:07,479 --> 00:45:13,919
And he eventually figured out, wow, my, my history, my own history, my own family was part of this lie.

508
00:45:13,999 --> 00:45:14,579
This sucks.

509
00:45:14,939 --> 00:45:18,659
And he came out and started really blaring the megaphones about it.

510
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:20,499
And to me, that is legendary status.

511
00:45:20,499 --> 00:45:27,799
Like if you are a Jewish person who goes through that deep and really shares this with the world, that is incredibly courageous.

512
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:35,699
And I want to see more of that and more people asking the real questions because I know that there are good people there.

513
00:45:35,699 --> 00:45:44,459
I feel for them that was terrifying because especially if you live in Israel, you can't talk about that stuff or you just get destroyed by Messiah.

514
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:46,039
They'll whack you immediately.

515
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:50,099
I would relate this to also is like once upon a time I was Catholic, right?

516
00:45:50,099 --> 00:45:57,379
And when I found out what the church was up to, especially with shuffling pedophile priests around, I was like, I'm done.

517
00:45:57,659 --> 00:45:58,219
I'm out of here.

518
00:45:58,219 --> 00:46:02,299
And then, you know, you start to see what's going on in the vast.

519
00:46:02,318 --> 00:46:07,278
Vatican, if you've ever seen, I forget the building's name, but basically it's the throne

520
00:46:07,278 --> 00:46:14,898
room of the Vatican where it's the, the outside looks like a snakehead and the inside looks like

521
00:46:14,898 --> 00:46:20,478
a snakehead and the Pope sits between the fangs and there's this ginormous, you know,

522
00:46:20,678 --> 00:46:25,578
you know, wooden carving that looks like the gates of hell have been opened up and, and,

523
00:46:25,578 --> 00:46:29,578
you know, evil spirits and demons are, are surging out of it.

524
00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:37,638
you start to understand, you know, like, man, it isn't all what we've been told it is. And for me,

525
00:46:37,638 --> 00:46:42,038
you know, when I was a Catholic, I had to, I had to make a decision. Right. And I would hope that

526
00:46:42,038 --> 00:46:47,238
there are enough honest Jewish people out there that could probably do the same thing. I had to,

527
00:46:47,438 --> 00:46:52,098
I left, I left, I'm not a Catholic anymore. I renounced, you know, my, my Catholicism.

528
00:46:52,298 --> 00:46:59,378
I am no longer of that tribe, you know, it's like, and I wish more and more people had the guts to do

529
00:46:59,378 --> 00:47:03,458
those kinds of things and say the tough things that need to be said. And it's not with malice,

530
00:47:03,518 --> 00:47:08,518
right? It's like, I don't, I don't hate people and I don't hate the, the, the average Catholic

531
00:47:08,518 --> 00:47:11,478
that's out there. I don't think they're even stupid. I think they've just been indoctrinated

532
00:47:11,478 --> 00:47:16,938
for so long. And a lot of them are afraid of what their family will say about them. If they say

533
00:47:16,938 --> 00:47:20,538
something that's counter to what they're indoctrinated with. And it's the same thing

534
00:47:20,538 --> 00:47:23,958
here, right? Is, you know, we've, we've all been indoctrinated to think, Oh, 6 million Jews,

535
00:47:24,038 --> 00:47:27,678
but we never asked the question. It was like, well, how many Russians died in world war II?

536
00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:37,198
How many Americans died in World War II? How many people in Europe were absolutely given to the dustbin of history and then lied about?

537
00:47:37,718 --> 00:47:43,178
But the only number that seems significant is that one number. And for me, that's and it's not even real.

538
00:47:43,178 --> 00:47:46,858
At the end of the day, it's not real.

539
00:47:46,998 --> 00:47:57,658
So I wish more people were open-minded enough to pause, let their emotions subside, do the research, and verify it for themselves.

540
00:47:57,858 --> 00:48:02,118
And that's obviously another first principle of Bitcoin is go verify it.

541
00:48:02,118 --> 00:48:03,178
Don't trust, verify it.

542
00:48:03,218 --> 00:48:05,118
Go out there and see if what we're saying is true.

543
00:48:05,618 --> 00:48:11,318
And if it is, and you have had other ideas and other thoughts, then think about it.

544
00:48:11,318 --> 00:48:25,078
But this branch of Bitcoin, I think, is probably one of the most not only interesting but important branches of Bitcoin because we are at war with the central banks.

545
00:48:25,218 --> 00:48:28,678
Bitcoin was created to destroy the central bank.

546
00:48:28,818 --> 00:48:34,618
And the central bank is the one that has funded every side of every war for over the past 100 years.

547
00:48:34,618 --> 00:48:51,738
Um, so if this isn't important enough for people to dive into the history of and understand that warfare is only able to be conducted on this type of scale for this long because of fiat currency, well, what do you do when you find out who the people are behind it?

548
00:48:52,278 --> 00:48:58,758
It's not that, you know, I'm, I want to, you know, send nuclear bombs and wipe Israel off the map.

549
00:48:58,758 --> 00:49:01,298
I wish we could stop the genocide

550
00:49:01,298 --> 00:49:02,218
I really do

551
00:49:02,218 --> 00:49:03,678
especially in Gaza

552
00:49:03,678 --> 00:49:05,758
the fact that they're attacking Iran now

553
00:49:05,758 --> 00:49:06,958
the fact that they've gone to war

554
00:49:06,958 --> 00:49:08,258
with their neighbors in Jordan

555
00:49:08,258 --> 00:49:09,458
and Syria and Egypt

556
00:49:09,458 --> 00:49:13,138
and have other displaced forces

557
00:49:13,138 --> 00:49:14,258
throughout the region

558
00:49:14,258 --> 00:49:16,858
do I wish I could snap my fingers

559
00:49:16,858 --> 00:49:17,618
and end it?

560
00:49:18,158 --> 00:49:18,738
I do

561
00:49:18,738 --> 00:49:20,678
but I would settle for them

562
00:49:20,678 --> 00:49:22,778
not being in control of our government

563
00:49:22,778 --> 00:49:24,438
I would settle for them

564
00:49:24,438 --> 00:49:26,418
not being at war with their neighbors

565
00:49:26,418 --> 00:49:27,958
I would settle for them

566
00:49:27,958 --> 00:49:32,618
hey, if you're Jewish and you want to relocate to Israel, relocate to Israel.

567
00:49:33,778 --> 00:49:41,458
Going down the path of destruction, it doesn't prove anything.

568
00:49:41,678 --> 00:49:44,638
There's a great quote out there that war doesn't prove who's right or wrong.

569
00:49:44,958 --> 00:49:46,918
War just decides who's left.

570
00:49:47,858 --> 00:49:52,198
And what we're on the precipice right now of in terms of World War III is,

571
00:49:52,198 --> 00:50:00,018
you know at this point the international community of i think regular people they all see it they all

572
00:50:00,018 --> 00:50:05,758
understand it then you've got the state powers of the brics nations like china and russia you know

573
00:50:05,758 --> 00:50:15,818
russia having signed a 20-year security deal with iran um in january of this year like this is this

574
00:50:15,818 --> 00:50:21,058
is something that's fairly substantial and so you know to just be able to single out hey we know who

575
00:50:21,058 --> 00:50:27,118
the bad actors are we know who's funding both sides of this conflict we know you know who's

576
00:50:27,118 --> 00:50:31,858
attacking their neighbors we know who's being genocidal um and to point that out if anybody

577
00:50:31,858 --> 00:50:38,238
doesn't think this is a genocide um let me see if i can't pull up a quote real quick from yeah feel

578
00:50:38,238 --> 00:50:43,298
free to do any research you need to i can always cut out pause no it's all good it's only going to

579
00:50:43,298 --> 00:50:51,898
take me a second um the i i posted it just here you know a few seconds ago um when we were doing

580
00:50:51,898 --> 00:51:00,658
the show and yeah i mean one of them was um from charlie kirk like charlie kirk is con ink right

581
00:51:00,658 --> 00:51:06,918
like he's conservative ink him ben shapiro um glenn beck sean hannity the rest of that organization

582
00:51:06,918 --> 00:51:11,698
out there and the departure from those guys right now charlie kirk posted a poll should we get

583
00:51:11,698 --> 00:51:18,738
involved, um, should the U S get involved in Israel's war against Iran? Like over 350,000 people

584
00:51:18,738 --> 00:51:25,098
have voted now and it's 88%. No, let's that's wild. If you've got that many people out there

585
00:51:25,098 --> 00:51:30,858
that see the writing on the wall, the international community is not doing this. Um, and you know,

586
00:51:30,858 --> 00:51:39,378
for, for these guys now to be attacking Iran against all the international outrage against,

587
00:51:39,378 --> 00:51:45,158
you know, the people's outrage and righteous outrage, you know, it came out that the,

588
00:51:45,458 --> 00:51:53,478
there were some leaked documents that came out through the Iranian media that shows in, you know,

589
00:51:53,498 --> 00:52:00,658
you can go on to Bitcoin veterans on X and see this, that the atomic energy agency, the IAEA

590
00:52:00,658 --> 00:52:08,638
chief has been fully coordinating with Israel to carry out a lot of what they've been talking about,

591
00:52:08,638 --> 00:52:14,818
with Iran in terms of having a bomb. Now, this is extremely interesting because Israel has never

592
00:52:14,818 --> 00:52:21,878
signed the non-proliferation treaty. They have also never, ever been acknowledged as having

593
00:52:21,878 --> 00:52:31,878
nuclear weapons by the IAEA. And Ian Carroll reported a long time ago that the US government's,

594
00:52:31,878 --> 00:52:39,998
I guess, stance when discussing Israel's nuclear capabilities is ambivalence.

595
00:52:40,098 --> 00:52:41,098
Like they don't talk about it.

596
00:52:41,138 --> 00:52:41,958
They don't acknowledge it.

597
00:52:42,018 --> 00:52:42,798
They'll change the subject.

598
00:52:43,358 --> 00:52:44,998
They have no account.

599
00:52:45,598 --> 00:52:54,018
And during JFK's administration is when the FBI watched the Mossad walk out of America

600
00:52:54,018 --> 00:52:59,118
with nuclear secrets and nuclear materials to start building their nuclear arsenal.

601
00:52:59,118 --> 00:53:18,038
So the fact that you have a, you know, the chief of the atomic energy, the International Atomic Energy Agency working in close conjunction with the Israelis to start painting Iran as the bad guy who's not attacking their neighbors, right?

602
00:53:18,038 --> 00:53:42,458
Like this, this stinks to high heaven. And it is absolutely outrageous that, you know, we've got, you know, Donald Trump and this administration who's made a clean break from its base as a populist. And this is probably worth pointing out, too, is if there's anything that Donald Trump has been known to be, he's a populist, right? He's he's that guy that is at the whim of whatever is going to get him into power and keep him in power.

603
00:53:42,458 --> 00:53:57,978
And for this guy to have scheduled talks with Iran on Sunday, this coming Sunday, to do a total of 180 degrees to tell Iran that they should have made the deal over the last 60 days.

604
00:53:58,138 --> 00:54:04,598
And Benjamin Netanyahu went in and attacked before we could actually get this done, before we could make this agreement.

605
00:54:05,198 --> 00:54:11,998
This shows you absolutely, you know, without any shadow of doubt where the United States government is.

606
00:54:12,458 --> 00:54:17,538
Um, and it also highlights, you know, that we have assets in the region, you know, men

607
00:54:17,538 --> 00:54:22,858
and women with families in the region, those men and women and families are not being prayed

608
00:54:22,858 --> 00:54:24,218
for by the Congress.

609
00:54:24,218 --> 00:54:26,958
The Congress is praying for the safety of Israel.

610
00:54:26,958 --> 00:54:33,078
And I think this is absolutely damning in the long run for any and all of these politicians

611
00:54:33,078 --> 00:54:34,078
on Capitol Hill.

612
00:54:34,558 --> 00:54:39,358
Um, when, when the chips come down, like if they're betting that this is going to go that

613
00:54:39,358 --> 00:54:45,578
way with a population of america that is as informed as they are and as heavily armed as

614
00:54:45,578 --> 00:54:50,778
they are like i don't think they have any understanding of what's coming yeah and this is

615
00:54:50,778 --> 00:54:57,858
just it's it's getting so clear and the optimistic side for me is that so many people are seeing this

616
00:54:57,858 --> 00:55:06,598
and even these super uh pro-war type of accounts and like ben shapiro and charlie kirk like you

617
00:55:06,598 --> 00:55:12,418
mentioned they can't they can't even post a poll without just getting blown up anymore like their

618
00:55:12,418 --> 00:55:16,738
own people are turning against them in the republican party and realizing it one of my

619
00:55:16,738 --> 00:55:20,998
favorite accounts out there that i want to give a shout out to is the hodge twins do you follow

620
00:55:20,998 --> 00:55:27,338
these guys yeah they've come a long way my amazing yeah these are true truly awesome american

621
00:55:27,338 --> 00:55:31,638
conservative guys who have been going down this rabbit hole they're completely fearless they're

622
00:55:31,638 --> 00:55:36,438
having Nick Fuentes on or having Dan Bilzerian on the podcast and they're

623
00:55:36,438 --> 00:55:39,618
going through the rabbit hole publicly and that's also one of the things that

624
00:55:39,618 --> 00:55:43,638
inspires me to talk about this here because anyone it does you're putting a

625
00:55:43,638 --> 00:55:49,018
target on your back and it's it's crazy and I really respect the people who do

626
00:55:49,018 --> 00:56:03,498
talk about this and do tell the truth I love to just so look I really enjoy talking about the historical historical side We get back to the present day probably later on but just to continue on through this backstory

627
00:56:03,658 --> 00:56:06,718
because I think that's a really, even as a non-history buff,

628
00:56:06,718 --> 00:56:08,598
for me, when I go through the history of this,

629
00:56:08,938 --> 00:56:11,478
it lays a lot of the foundation for what we're talking about.

630
00:56:11,798 --> 00:56:15,778
So we were talking about the World War II and the Holocaust stuff earlier.

631
00:56:16,098 --> 00:56:18,958
Just to wrap that up, I mean, for me,

632
00:56:18,958 --> 00:56:25,798
the thing that that really got me asking questions is how the gas chamber door is made of wood wood

633
00:56:25,798 --> 00:56:33,618
with a big window on it and it opens from the inside from arguably some of the best engineers

634
00:56:33,618 --> 00:56:38,398
on the planet yeah that's kind of weird that's that's a little bit odd it's an odd choice of

635
00:56:38,398 --> 00:56:43,538
engineering um let's see uh auschwitz had an olympic swimming pool with diving boards

636
00:56:43,538 --> 00:56:50,638
a hospital a and lots of jewish women had babies there there are pictures of them holding children

637
00:56:50,638 --> 00:56:55,778
that they were raising so that's kind of weird if they're all just getting mass murdered uh there's

638
00:56:55,778 --> 00:57:02,798
a bakery children's theater uh there were there's a women's orchestra this is another thing you can

639
00:57:02,798 --> 00:57:07,418
literally google like auschwitz women's orchestra they had like they're they're all playing music

640
00:57:07,418 --> 00:57:12,438
together yeah that's and you do that before you're murdering people that's also very weird they had a

641
00:57:12,438 --> 00:57:18,738
soccer league where where they were playing soccer with the nazi guards literally and and in these

642
00:57:18,738 --> 00:57:23,418
documentaries we talk about which are just banned everywhere the and i'll rattle off a couple that

643
00:57:23,418 --> 00:57:27,258
europe of the last battle is a classic that everyone needs to watch another one is really

644
00:57:27,258 --> 00:57:32,418
good is illuminating the holocaust and that one has a bunch of interviews with jews who were there

645
00:57:32,418 --> 00:57:37,678
in the camps and they're actually telling the truth of what happened and which is why these

646
00:57:37,678 --> 00:57:41,498
are completely banned from everything because they basically say oh yeah i mean the nazis were pretty

647
00:57:41,498 --> 00:57:45,578
chill they took care of us like they didn't want us to die that we were playing soccer with them

648
00:57:45,578 --> 00:57:51,138
their hospitals they were making sure they were trying to lower the death counts but the reason

649
00:57:51,138 --> 00:57:57,658
why there were like you said around 271 000 confirmed well it's tough to confirm that money

650
00:57:57,658 --> 00:58:02,598
but that's why we see that's where the red cross confirmed yeah yeah and so there's no doubt that

651
00:58:02,598 --> 00:58:07,438
that hundreds of thousands of jewish people died during the war but it was not from murdering it

652
00:58:07,438 --> 00:58:14,078
was from starvation and typhus there was a huge typhus outbreak and this was why they had i think

653
00:58:14,078 --> 00:58:20,318
it was the zyklon b right but i watched these but this this chemical that d lousey's yeah it was

654
00:58:20,318 --> 00:58:25,718
d lousey because for and why they were all like shaved bald this this story is sort of twisted

655
00:58:25,718 --> 00:58:30,818
and like oh they were you know being having chemicals sprayed on them to kill them no it

656
00:58:30,818 --> 00:58:35,858
was to get rid of the lice they're trying to get rid of the typhus they're trying to to help them

657
00:58:35,858 --> 00:59:05,278
Yeah. And what you see in a lot of the, you know, quote unquote, post-World, well, I should say that the post-World War II pictures that came out of places like Auschwitz, and those weren't actually Auschwitz. Some of them were Soviet gulags, right? And so were there people who were starving? Yes, some of those were actually starving because the Allies cut off supplies to Germany so that not only were they starving, but German soldiers were starving.

658
00:59:05,278 --> 00:59:11,418
I mean, when you look at, you know, things like Stalingrad and things like that, like this was not an easy time.

659
00:59:11,518 --> 00:59:14,758
There wasn't, you know, food and production for everybody and everything.

660
00:59:14,758 --> 00:59:21,078
And when, you know, when supply lines get cut and you've got, you know, prisoners of war.

661
00:59:21,598 --> 00:59:24,558
Well, sometimes the prisoners are the last ones to eat.

662
00:59:24,598 --> 00:59:26,938
Right. That's just that's kind of the way it is.

663
00:59:26,958 --> 00:59:29,798
That's just you preserving your national interest at that point.

664
00:59:30,258 --> 00:59:33,418
And is it a terrible part of war? Absolutely.

665
00:59:33,418 --> 00:59:42,918
But yeah, the construction of the narrative and who's controlled that narrative and who's been showing us the movies through Hollywood.

666
00:59:43,458 --> 00:59:54,518
I mean, when you look at the books, the history, the ongoing charade, you're like, man, all of this stuff is done by one group of people.

667
00:59:54,518 --> 00:59:59,677
And it's to carry out the narrative so that we can never, ever talk about what actually happened in history.

668
00:59:59,677 --> 01:00:08,258
But the amazing thing is, you know, we've got a lot of forums like Nostra to get out here and really spread truth.

669
01:00:08,378 --> 01:00:11,538
And then, you know, a little bit on X is leaking.

670
01:00:11,698 --> 01:00:13,758
I mean, I give X its credit.

671
01:00:13,878 --> 01:00:15,797
I mean, I'm not an Elon fan or anything.

672
01:00:15,878 --> 01:00:17,358
And I think he's probably in on this whole thing.

673
01:00:17,358 --> 01:00:24,038
But the fact that there is as much on X right now as there is, is absolutely incredible.

674
01:00:24,318 --> 01:00:25,478
And even Instagram, too.

675
01:00:25,677 --> 01:00:27,098
I don't know if you're on Instagram.

676
01:00:27,098 --> 01:00:33,258
but i mean there's just so much content being that's my happy place though yeah

677
01:00:33,258 --> 01:00:40,358
i have a totally different feed in instagram than i have in on on twitter that's my feed

678
01:00:40,358 --> 01:00:45,978
instagram is insane like it's great the first three things are a nick fuentes rant and just like

679
01:00:45,978 --> 01:00:53,958
ai things just um but but it's it's slipping through there too which is the most controlled

680
01:00:53,958 --> 01:00:58,358
as it gets but people are getting it's really fascinating how creative people are getting i mean

681
01:00:58,358 --> 01:01:05,918
yesterday i saw like this this ai squidward version of a nick fuentes just ranting about

682
01:01:05,918 --> 01:01:11,758
something and so there people are getting really smart at getting around these filters of like

683
01:01:11,758 --> 01:01:18,878
trying to cut people off and ban certain accounts it's it's crazy to watch you know um it's it's

684
01:01:18,878 --> 01:01:22,998
happening everywhere people are just going through these rabbit holes they're realizing that i mean

685
01:01:22,998 --> 01:01:26,058
people's trust for authority is through the floor at this point.

686
01:01:26,158 --> 01:01:27,177
So they're open to anything.

687
01:01:27,778 --> 01:01:31,238
And this is the type of things you run into when you are questioning

688
01:01:31,238 --> 01:01:31,718
everything.

689
01:01:32,158 --> 01:01:36,218
And this puts so many puzzle pieces together that it really gets people

690
01:01:36,218 --> 01:01:37,018
riled up and,

691
01:01:37,018 --> 01:01:37,998
uh,

692
01:01:38,198 --> 01:01:40,138
just spreading the word far and wide.

693
01:01:40,138 --> 01:01:42,518
And I think it'd be good to,

694
01:01:42,558 --> 01:01:44,797
to bring it to a little bit more recent history.

695
01:01:44,978 --> 01:01:45,378
You,

696
01:01:45,558 --> 01:01:46,818
you talked about nine 11.

697
01:01:47,278 --> 01:01:47,578
Man,

698
01:01:47,618 --> 01:01:48,478
you read my mind.

699
01:01:48,478 --> 01:01:57,498
so what was what was your path of questioning that one and figuring out who was really behind it

700
01:01:57,498 --> 01:02:06,378
um so i think when i found out who had recently bought the twin towers right is um

701
01:02:06,378 --> 01:02:11,878
there there was a lot you can go down rabbit holes and you can find you know the the videos

702
01:02:11,878 --> 01:02:16,578
of the firemen that you know are sitting there covered in dust and you know blood and mud and

703
01:02:16,578 --> 01:02:20,618
everything else that are talking about explosions being heard and that the official story wasn't

704
01:02:20,618 --> 01:02:26,677
right. Years and years ago, over a decade plus, one of my good friends was like, you know,

705
01:02:26,958 --> 01:02:32,238
this really kind of looks like a missile that, you know, kind of comes in low and hits the

706
01:02:32,238 --> 01:02:40,878
Pentagon. And, you know, like he started questioning the official narrative starting a long time ago,

707
01:02:40,878 --> 01:02:42,638
And then obviously Tower 7 and Free Fall.

708
01:02:42,818 --> 01:02:44,278
Like, what? Why?

709
01:02:45,078 --> 01:02:51,358
That didn't hit me nearly as hard as when I found out about the –

710
01:02:51,358 --> 01:02:53,998
and you may be able to pull it up real quick.

711
01:02:54,138 --> 01:02:59,938
But the guy, the Jewish man that bought the towers, who also pulled the –

712
01:02:59,938 --> 01:03:00,078
Lucky Larry.

713
01:03:00,498 --> 01:03:01,718
Yeah, Lucky Larry, right?

714
01:03:02,218 --> 01:03:09,278
He also pulled the biggest insurance policy claim that's ever been claimed

715
01:03:09,278 --> 01:03:12,998
and bought what terrorist type of insurance.

716
01:03:13,937 --> 01:03:15,797
So, you know, that happens.

717
01:03:15,937 --> 01:03:19,778
And then you hear about the, you know, the Jewish messaging network

718
01:03:19,778 --> 01:03:24,278
where you've got somewhere around 4,000 Jews that work in the Twin Towers

719
01:03:24,278 --> 01:03:26,778
that get the message, don't go to work today.

720
01:03:27,917 --> 01:03:28,157
Hmm.

721
01:03:28,637 --> 01:03:29,738
This is really strange.

722
01:03:29,917 --> 01:03:34,478
You know, when you start to just kind of, wait, wait,

723
01:03:34,478 --> 01:03:42,998
a jewish man bought the towers and he is going to have the biggest insurance payday of all time

724
01:03:42,998 --> 01:03:48,417
a couple weeks before this happens yeah what was it 40 billion or something like it was an

725
01:03:48,417 --> 01:03:56,157
astrological number um in terms of the payout and then on top of it you've got a you you literally

726
01:03:56,157 --> 01:04:01,718
have a jewish messaging system like this is interesting and you told everybody who was jewish

727
01:04:01,718 --> 01:04:07,198
who had, you know, these things, what not to go to work. So what we had, literally less than a

728
01:04:07,198 --> 01:04:13,378
handful of Jews who died in nine 11, when 4,000 people, um, who are Jewish work in the twin towers,

729
01:04:13,378 --> 01:04:19,417
that is a, that is an incredibly small number, right? Like we're, we're, we're outside the realm

730
01:04:19,417 --> 01:04:25,218
of just possibility now, right? Like we are, we are now into something that is literally

731
01:04:25,218 --> 01:04:31,578
manufactured through conspiracy. Um, I think at that point is when, you know, you start going

732
01:04:31,578 --> 01:04:36,038
down that whole, you know, rabbit hole and you find out about the dancing Israelis, you start

733
01:04:36,038 --> 01:04:42,397
going into who was there. Um, there are pictures of, you know, where the planes quote unquote,

734
01:04:42,397 --> 01:04:49,338
struck the building and these pictures from a quote unquote, Greek, uh, art team, you know,

735
01:04:49,338 --> 01:04:55,198
that was in the, that was an E type and the B thing. And then you start understanding that,

736
01:04:55,198 --> 01:05:02,637
you know, at night overnight there, they had access and these, you know, I imagine, you know,

737
01:05:02,637 --> 01:05:06,758
once you see the boxes with all the blasting caps and I happen to have been through breachers course.

738
01:05:06,897 --> 01:05:13,338
So I understand explosives as well is it would take a very long time to go in there and put the

739
01:05:13,338 --> 01:05:18,798
detonation cord and the blasting caps and all those things in, um, where these guys had carte

740
01:05:18,798 --> 01:05:25,618
launch access to the towers. And so, you know, you, you start to see that you start to understand

741
01:05:25,618 --> 01:05:32,838
where we were in the 90s with a lot of, you know, a lot of the current apparatus was highly,

742
01:05:32,838 --> 01:05:38,877
you know, understanding of what the Mossad was doing inside the United States in terms of spying.

743
01:05:39,098 --> 01:05:44,397
And the, you know, they captured the dancing Israelis. What was it about a month later,

744
01:05:44,397 --> 01:05:56,097
they turn up on Israeli television stop and go through the whole dancing israelis part of the story because for me that was the one that was like holy shit yeah um if you go see the video basically um this lady was

745
01:05:56,097 --> 01:06:01,297
standing um you know in her apartment which had a clear skyline view of new york city and the

746
01:06:01,297 --> 01:06:07,317
towers that were smoking at the time and out front of her apartment here she had um you know guys in

747
01:06:07,317 --> 01:06:11,897
a white van that were out there once the towers are hit with video cameras and they were dancing

748
01:06:11,897 --> 01:06:17,497
around and she called the authorities thinking it was kind of a miss. Not long later, the authorities

749
01:06:17,497 --> 01:06:22,817
picked up, I think it was either two or three of the guys. And I forgot what it said on the van,

750
01:06:22,877 --> 01:06:31,377
but it was kind of ridiculous. At that time, they took him into custody. There were reports on a lot

751
01:06:31,377 --> 01:06:36,137
of the major news stations, including Fox News at the time that they had taken Israelis into custody,

752
01:06:36,137 --> 01:06:40,437
men of specific interest that had Mossad ties.

753
01:06:41,617 --> 01:06:43,777
And nothing came about from that.

754
01:06:44,117 --> 01:06:48,277
We never heard another thing from the dancing Israelis.

755
01:06:48,397 --> 01:06:49,557
They were released to Israel.

756
01:06:49,877 --> 01:06:54,097
And about a month after that, they wind up on Israeli television

757
01:06:54,097 --> 01:06:58,537
saying that they had been sent to film the event and document the event.

758
01:06:58,937 --> 01:07:00,177
And there's five of them, right?

759
01:07:00,177 --> 01:07:01,717
They're all sitting there on the panel.

760
01:07:01,917 --> 01:07:05,677
And just as plain as day, they had been sent to New York City

761
01:07:05,677 --> 01:07:09,717
to witness and document the event.

762
01:07:10,137 --> 01:07:14,497
So to me, you know, it just, wait a second.

763
01:07:15,277 --> 01:07:17,037
You know, Israel knew about it.

764
01:07:17,077 --> 01:07:18,157
They warned the Jews.

765
01:07:18,157 --> 01:07:22,517
You had the guy who bought the towers take out the largest, you know,

766
01:07:22,757 --> 01:07:25,737
terrorist insurance that's ever been paid out in history.

767
01:07:26,237 --> 01:07:29,277
And on top of it, you've got a team of people who are, you know,

768
01:07:29,277 --> 01:07:34,697
linked to the Mossad who probably had access to those towers for, you know,

769
01:07:34,697 --> 01:07:40,237
the quote unquote art project and all of a sudden now the towers are gone.

770
01:07:40,337 --> 01:07:41,717
I think that was the,

771
01:07:41,817 --> 01:07:47,797
I think that was the message to the world that the Israelis had taken over the,

772
01:07:47,797 --> 01:07:51,397
the government inside the United States. Like this is it. Like this is,

773
01:07:51,617 --> 01:07:53,917
this is how it's going. This is how it's happening.

774
01:07:54,297 --> 01:07:59,757
And now we are going to use this and blame it on Al Qaeda. And you know,

775
01:07:59,777 --> 01:08:02,917
for any of your listeners out there you know,

776
01:08:02,917 --> 01:08:07,417
what does government do best? Government's that organization that breaks your legs and then sells

777
01:08:07,417 --> 01:08:14,817
you the crutch. Well, when we give billions and billions of dollars to Israel and those Israelis

778
01:08:14,817 --> 01:08:21,777
then give that money to who they need to carry out their designs, you start to see a very specific

779
01:08:21,777 --> 01:08:30,817
MO play out, in other words. This is their tactic. You fund the organizations that you

780
01:08:30,817 --> 01:08:37,217
need to commit atrocities in terms of false flags so that you then can turn around and carry out the

781
01:08:37,217 --> 01:08:46,917
atrocities you want to provide a um you know a strategical uh strategic a strategic Jesus

782
01:08:46,917 --> 01:08:54,737
it's not like George Bush I'm channeling my my my George Bush's strategery uh he he he uh no this

783
01:08:54,737 --> 01:09:00,177
this is you know the if you're funding you know terror groups al-qaeda I mean we know that bin

784
01:09:00,177 --> 01:09:07,397
Laden was CIA. And I will propose to your audience that all intelligence is really just a label

785
01:09:07,397 --> 01:09:11,477
within the countries that it's in. It's all run by the same people, right? Like the intelligence

786
01:09:11,477 --> 01:09:17,217
apparatus is completely owned and operated by the bankers, which happen to be Jewish.

787
01:09:17,877 --> 01:09:22,837
And when you have Al Qaeda knock down the buildings, when you have Hamas, who's been

788
01:09:22,837 --> 01:09:27,737
funded by Israelis, and you also have ISIS, who's been funded by Israelis, you're literally looking

789
01:09:27,737 --> 01:09:31,717
at the same terror groups that they're fighting so that they can expand their, you know, their

790
01:09:31,717 --> 01:09:37,177
territory in the greater Israeli project. And what they did in terms of 9-11 was they activated it and

791
01:09:37,177 --> 01:09:47,277
moved the very black male compromise defense sector into this churning that would be, you know,

792
01:09:47,277 --> 01:09:52,857
the global war on terrorism so that they could take American men and women to go over and fight

793
01:09:52,857 --> 01:09:54,637
and die for Israel.

794
01:09:54,797 --> 01:09:59,877
And it's absolutely one of the things that I, I mean, I am not only disgusted to have

795
01:09:59,877 --> 01:10:06,637
been a part of and feel, you know, obviously terrible about it, but it is, it's what they're

796
01:10:06,637 --> 01:10:08,957
doing for, you know, October 7th.

797
01:10:08,957 --> 01:10:12,437
It's what they're doing now in terms of the attack on Iran.

798
01:10:12,857 --> 01:10:14,617
This continues to happen.

799
01:10:14,617 --> 01:10:19,417
And it's the same tired MO that they've been using for quite some time now.

800
01:10:20,537 --> 01:10:20,977
Yeah.

801
01:10:21,317 --> 01:10:21,677
Yeah.

802
01:10:21,737 --> 01:10:21,937
Wow.

803
01:10:21,937 --> 01:10:23,677
Thank you for sharing all that stuff.

804
01:10:23,957 --> 01:10:28,937
And it's another one of the things that you have to look at is just the incentives.

805
01:10:29,297 --> 01:10:30,897
Us Bitcoiners love that word incentives.

806
01:10:31,357 --> 01:10:37,877
And every incentive is there when you look at that 9-11 story, when you really sit down and look, wow, okay.

807
01:10:38,117 --> 01:10:43,957
So this is Israel's main goal is to decimate the whole Middle East so they can steal all their land.

808
01:10:44,017 --> 01:10:45,637
They want to keep growing and getting bigger.

809
01:10:45,997 --> 01:10:51,317
They have all of this control over our governments and our military.

810
01:10:51,937 --> 01:10:57,437
and the banks and as you you mentioned this was the level i was on for and i think most people are

811
01:10:57,437 --> 01:11:04,937
on who are you know relatively truth-seeking and and have have a few brain cells is this it was the

812
01:11:04,937 --> 01:11:09,497
cia it was a deep state it was a military industrial complex well who controls all those people

813
01:11:09,497 --> 01:11:16,397
right we now know who controls them it's it's really just the jews yeah and you know when you've

814
01:11:16,397 --> 01:11:21,697
got a you know a republican congress that just elected a president with you know the help of

815
01:11:21,697 --> 01:11:28,097
quote unquote, Elon Musk, right? And they go through Doge. And then they, they basically try

816
01:11:28,097 --> 01:11:36,197
to pass a spending bill that is loaded, and really a holdover from the Biden administration

817
01:11:36,197 --> 01:11:43,737
that still continues to fund the NGOs that that with the intelligence agencies use to foment

818
01:11:43,737 --> 01:11:49,457
color revolutions, you're watching it inside the United States right now, like color revolution has

819
01:11:49,457 --> 01:11:55,857
started inside the United States. I would highly suggest your listeners stay away from the protests,

820
01:11:55,937 --> 01:12:01,837
stay away from dense city centers, because this is the realm of false flags. And the false flags

821
01:12:01,837 --> 01:12:07,037
are going to, like, I'm going to tell you right now, the riots are false flags, completely organized,

822
01:12:07,377 --> 01:12:13,077
completely bought and paid for. They are not organic. They are absolutely false flags. Then

823
01:12:13,077 --> 01:12:18,477
on top of it, you know, now that you've got this turning within, I think, really good people in the

824
01:12:18,477 --> 01:12:22,997
United States are like, Hey, we're, we're not going to war for Israel against Iran. You know,

825
01:12:22,997 --> 01:12:28,597
those people that's, it's, it's coincidentally, you know, and I say coincidentally, I say that

826
01:12:28,597 --> 01:12:34,417
completely tongue in cheek. This is not coincidence at all that now this is happening because if we

827
01:12:34,417 --> 01:12:40,117
were to come out and start protesting against our government now as concerned citizens,

828
01:12:40,617 --> 01:12:45,637
what is the media going to do? They're going to lump us into the same category as this color

829
01:12:45,637 --> 01:12:50,097
revolution that's being funded and all of a sudden you know the people that aren't really

830
01:12:50,097 --> 01:12:54,817
understanding and don't pay attention are going to be like oh wow like this is way worse than we

831
01:12:54,817 --> 01:13:03,157
thought right no and and so yeah be safe um maybe maybe get prepped um for some harder times here

832
01:13:03,157 --> 01:13:09,477
in the very near future and and stay away from you know crowds because crowds do dumb ass things man

833
01:13:09,477 --> 01:13:16,517
yeah and i i completely agree and this this brings us back to where we were talking earlier about

834
01:13:16,517 --> 01:13:24,797
what do we do about this as individuals and as a people and like what is the solution here you know

835
01:13:24,797 --> 01:13:32,697
and like you i will never condone violence or any any sort of violence for for solving problems i

836
01:13:32,697 --> 01:13:38,857
think that the very first thing that i view as a major major goal that us especially in america can

837
01:13:38,857 --> 01:13:48,437
push for is to just put tremendous pressure on our governments and with the the side goal of

838
01:13:48,437 --> 01:13:51,657
really just waking people up you know because we know who controls the government it's not like

839
01:13:51,657 --> 01:13:58,157
we're gonna make a change by tweeting and tagging these people obviously if all it was so easy right

840
01:13:58,157 --> 01:14:02,857
yeah yeah that's obviously not gonna this isn't gonna be a top-down change it's gonna be a bottom

841
01:14:02,857 --> 01:14:07,837
up change but by putting that pressure on and especially people with big platforms putting

842
01:14:07,837 --> 01:14:12,597
the pressure on it's going to wake more people up from the bottom and angle them towards solutions

843
01:14:12,597 --> 01:14:19,537
which we talk about bitcoin and nostril being huge bitcoin is defunding the banks nostril is opening

844
01:14:19,537 --> 01:14:23,957
up communications for everybody so these are both huge tools that i know we're both extremely

845
01:14:23,957 --> 01:14:31,057
passionate about this this problem is solvable by by and this is one of the cool things and why i

846
01:14:31,057 --> 01:14:37,817
kicked the can on covering this topic for so long is because i don't feel guilty just talking about

847
01:14:37,817 --> 01:14:41,877
Bitcoin all the time and Nostra all the time, because if these things grow, things will

848
01:14:41,877 --> 01:14:43,137
organically be fixed.

849
01:14:43,537 --> 01:14:48,657
And I want that to be the main message that I push out is you don't need to go through

850
01:14:48,657 --> 01:14:50,057
all these things that trigger everybody.

851
01:14:50,597 --> 01:14:56,357
As long as we're everyone out there that's pushing Bitcoin and Nostra and just speaking

852
01:14:56,357 --> 01:15:00,137
their truth and keeping an open mind is helping us solve the problem.

853
01:15:00,137 --> 01:15:08,557
so i think that just if we can just get to that point where the u.s government and the israel

854
01:15:08,557 --> 01:15:14,597
combination no longer has all this power and that starts with the money as we talked about

855
01:15:14,597 --> 01:15:19,337
the reason why they have all the power to do this stuff is because they control the banks

856
01:15:19,337 --> 01:15:24,337
and the money printer so if we just continue pushing in that direction and bringing people

857
01:15:24,337 --> 01:15:29,517
on the nostril who are speaking the truth because i definitely foresee more censorship i mean there's

858
01:15:29,517 --> 01:15:31,677
no case where censorship goes away.

859
01:15:31,757 --> 01:15:32,577
It's going to get worse and worse.

860
01:15:33,637 --> 01:15:35,617
So, I mean, to me, that's

861
01:15:35,617 --> 01:15:37,057
my message to people is,

862
01:15:37,597 --> 01:15:48,696
look you don have to go through all this crazy darkness with us lunatics who just have a sadistic desire to know the dark depths of reality

863
01:15:49,736 --> 01:15:53,516
If you're just pushing Bitcoin memes every day, you're part of the solution.

864
01:15:53,656 --> 01:15:54,436
You should be happy with that.

865
01:15:55,336 --> 01:15:55,436
Amen.

866
01:15:55,856 --> 01:15:58,116
Yeah, and that's the easiest thing is, right?

867
01:15:58,116 --> 01:16:06,616
If you're not in that space where you can speak out publicly, and I understand, there

868
01:16:06,616 --> 01:16:10,676
there are organizations out there that will can you like immediately if you're speaking out

869
01:16:10,676 --> 01:16:15,536
publicly um i i understand that you got to provide for your family and all those kind of things like

870
01:16:15,536 --> 01:16:21,196
maybe start to think about transitioning out and if you need to kind of come find a space

871
01:16:21,196 --> 01:16:27,276
uh within bitcoin like there are job opportunities we actually help people find job opportunities in

872
01:16:27,276 --> 01:16:32,936
bitcoin veterans so um we have a group that's literally like hey we got we got this job this

873
01:16:32,936 --> 01:16:38,556
job, this job, this job, right? There is, there is something in this community for you. You know,

874
01:16:38,636 --> 01:16:43,816
you may have to take a pay cut, but at some point you'll also be able to speak, um, freely again,

875
01:16:43,816 --> 01:16:47,696
without, you know, worry of repercussion. And I think that's also the beautiful thing about

876
01:16:47,696 --> 01:16:53,136
Bitcoin, right? Is at a certain point, you don't, you, you've got the, and I don't know if I can

877
01:16:53,136 --> 01:16:58,416
swear on your show or not, but, um, absolutely the more, the better. Yeah. Okay. So you've got

878
01:16:58,416 --> 01:17:04,676
fuck you money. Right. And fuck you money is being able to say whatever you want to whoever you want,

879
01:17:04,756 --> 01:17:12,756
whenever you want. And I love that about Bitcoin is, you know, Bitcoin is the, is the time that

880
01:17:12,756 --> 01:17:17,816
represents your life, but it's also the power to say, fuck you. I'm going to, I'm going to speak

881
01:17:17,816 --> 01:17:22,756
truth. And if you don't like it, well, I guess maybe we're just not on the same side of history.

882
01:17:22,756 --> 01:17:31,056
um yeah if you are in bitcoin um and and can do anything you know running nodes mining you you

883
01:17:31,056 --> 01:17:35,896
name it making sure that you know your mom and dad and brother and sister and your your local

884
01:17:35,896 --> 01:17:40,356
community understands you know that you're a source for them you're not going to get you're

885
01:17:40,356 --> 01:17:45,716
not and this is one of the things i think where bitcoiners kind of make that um that mistake is

886
01:17:45,716 --> 01:17:50,696
they they'll say well how do we bring more people to bitcoin you just you have to be a source you

887
01:17:50,696 --> 01:17:55,096
just have to you have to live a good and decent life and you have to have that network and in

888
01:17:55,096 --> 01:18:01,136
basically giving people an example and then they'll come to you right like at some point people are

889
01:18:01,136 --> 01:18:06,496
coming to you as the source and that's all you can do because you can't learn bitcoin for somebody

890
01:18:06,496 --> 01:18:13,716
else right you can only do this for yourself and so um yeah there's there's so much that's going on

891
01:18:13,716 --> 01:18:20,216
within the bitcoin universe now that is i think really fun to watch and what i am really interested

892
01:18:20,216 --> 01:18:29,536
to watch is how Donald Trump, especially in this administration out there, is going to try to go

893
01:18:29,536 --> 01:18:38,696
and balance this. Because there's no way to balance war, especially at the behest of Israel

894
01:18:38,696 --> 01:18:46,676
right now, and solid money. You're never going to be that guy that can be like, hey, I think that's

895
01:18:46,676 --> 01:18:51,656
why organizations like Swan have, you know, absolutely fallen out of grace and on their face.

896
01:18:52,156 --> 01:18:59,956
I think that's why, you know, this, this time in history is unique because game theory is playing

897
01:18:59,956 --> 01:19:09,476
out and you cannot continue to play these MIC were, you know, the, the, the unipolar power of

898
01:19:09,476 --> 01:19:15,776
the world and same time be a champion for Bitcoin because you don't understand the ethos. You don't

899
01:19:15,776 --> 01:19:23,156
understand the first principles and the money will not allow you in a name economy such as Bitcoin

900
01:19:23,156 --> 01:19:28,496
to continue to try to talk out of both sides of your face. And that is going to be, I think,

901
01:19:28,796 --> 01:19:32,916
one of the most interesting things to play out. And I have no doubt in my mind that Bitcoin

902
01:19:32,916 --> 01:19:40,876
and the Bitcoin community wins this battle. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. We have so many

903
01:19:40,876 --> 01:19:46,456
awesome people who are doing so much great work, putting out such great content. And I have a ton

904
01:19:46,456 --> 01:19:54,456
of hope for our generation and Gen Z really figuring this stuff out and turning this around.

905
01:19:54,676 --> 01:19:58,596
And there are a lot of reasons to be super optimistic. We have the solutions we need,

906
01:19:58,596 --> 01:20:05,716
thank God. And we just need to push the adoption and make it happen. And fun fact here, we're

907
01:20:05,716 --> 01:20:11,056
getting close to the end of our time i just pulled up uh linkedin here for our recording platform

908
01:20:11,056 --> 01:20:17,836
riverside um guess guess where he's from the ceo of our recording platforms from israel so

909
01:20:17,836 --> 01:20:25,236
i think we should start wrapping this up before my computer explodes uh so right shane where can

910
01:20:25,236 --> 01:20:31,276
people follow you and get more locked into your work and all you're doing i will say i'm i'm i've

911
01:20:31,276 --> 01:20:34,416
I'm not on Twitter as Shane Hazel anymore.

912
01:20:34,956 --> 01:20:36,136
And that's okay.

913
01:20:36,236 --> 01:20:37,756
We'll just leave that where it is.

914
01:20:37,976 --> 01:20:39,916
And I'm on Nostra.

915
01:20:40,036 --> 01:20:40,936
You can find me on there.

916
01:20:41,036 --> 01:20:42,836
I have an old account that I lost my keys to.

917
01:20:42,896 --> 01:20:44,236
I'm a little embarrassed about that.

918
01:20:44,236 --> 01:20:48,076
But the newer account is up and running.

919
01:20:48,796 --> 01:20:51,076
Yeah, not your keys, not your account on Nostra.

920
01:20:51,256 --> 01:20:53,436
I will tell you that, which is great.

921
01:20:53,576 --> 01:20:55,536
And then BitcoinVeterans.org,

922
01:20:55,636 --> 01:20:59,816
we do a weekly show on Tuesday nights at 7 p.m. Eastern.

923
01:20:59,816 --> 01:21:03,656
We also have the daily show, which I don't run.

924
01:21:03,896 --> 01:21:07,596
It's run by a couple of different guys out there.

925
01:21:08,016 --> 01:21:14,936
And I've got to tell you, between Coleman and the crew, they do a fantastic job of running daily show.

926
01:21:15,036 --> 01:21:17,336
That's 10 a.m. Eastern on Spaces Every Day.

927
01:21:17,696 --> 01:21:22,516
So BitcoinVeterans.org, if you want to get involved with what we're doing, we'd love to have you.

928
01:21:22,936 --> 01:21:26,616
Veteran or not, we are a community that is all about action.

929
01:21:26,616 --> 01:21:36,276
So if you want to get plugged into something, you got some ideas, you want to go do something, you want to lead the charge, great organization to be a part of because you'll probably find some other guys that are willing to take action.

930
01:21:36,476 --> 01:21:45,076
And I think that's what, you know, what we need is we need more and more people, not only, you know, understanding the ethos and first principles, we need them living it.

931
01:21:45,176 --> 01:21:49,736
And then we need them to join a community and start putting them into practice.

932
01:21:50,196 --> 01:21:53,736
So, Ben, I tell you what, this has been a lot of fun.

933
01:21:54,116 --> 01:21:55,676
Sorry, it's been a black pill for some people.

934
01:21:55,676 --> 01:21:57,496
I hope it's been enlightening for a lot of others.

935
01:21:57,636 --> 01:22:03,696
I really appreciate the time and platform after all the back and forth where we try to get this done, man.

936
01:22:03,796 --> 01:22:04,856
I wish the best to you.

937
01:22:05,516 --> 01:22:06,556
You as well, sir.

938
01:22:06,596 --> 01:22:08,016
It's been a true pleasure.

939
01:22:08,196 --> 01:22:16,936
And I cannot echo enough just how much I care that we are not trying to make people angry out there or make people depressed.

940
01:22:16,976 --> 01:22:18,416
We're just trying to spread the truth.

941
01:22:18,496 --> 01:22:24,236
And I just believe that this is a time where all of us have to decide where are we going to stand in history?

942
01:22:24,236 --> 01:22:25,496
What are we going to stand for?

943
01:22:25,676 --> 01:22:32,516
what future do we want? And is it worth it to put ourselves out there a little bit and put

944
01:22:32,516 --> 01:22:36,656
ourselves at risk in some ways by talking about this stuff? And I just believe the answer is

945
01:22:36,656 --> 01:22:41,676
absolutely yes. You know, we need to be thinking about our kids, grandkids, great grandkids,

946
01:22:41,776 --> 01:22:48,016
the future generations. We need more people with that long, long time horizon. As you talked about

947
01:22:48,016 --> 01:22:51,496
when you became a dad, you cared a lot more about creating a better world for your kids.

948
01:22:51,496 --> 01:22:57,356
and this is the mindset everyone needs to be having and why i push even though i'm a single

949
01:22:57,356 --> 01:23:01,436
dude myself i'm constantly pushing out propaganda have more kids have more kids because i know that

950
01:23:01,436 --> 01:23:07,336
this this is this is good for your your extending your time horizon that's definitely where i'm

951
01:23:07,336 --> 01:23:11,176
heading as well i thought i have one final quick question actually that just to throw in there

952
01:23:11,176 --> 01:23:17,396
what are the resources you would share with people to to go down these rabbit holes books

953
01:23:17,396 --> 01:23:21,656
documentaries we mentioned a couple but what are are there any things that we didn't mention that

954
01:23:21,656 --> 01:23:27,456
you'd throw out there for people to continue their digging um you know there's there's a lot of um

955
01:23:27,456 --> 01:23:33,376
great content out there on especially on x like there if you search for this kind of stuff on x i

956
01:23:33,376 --> 01:23:38,996
think this is probably one of your greatest places to find community it's a great place to start your

957
01:23:38,996 --> 01:23:45,176
investigation uh and i think you know kind of to our uh earlier part of our conversation is go

958
01:23:45,176 --> 01:23:49,396
go out there and do the research yourself. Don't, don't take our word for it. I'm not,

959
01:23:49,496 --> 01:23:55,816
I'm not here to, to be followed, um, or repeated or anything like that. I would love for people to

960
01:23:55,816 --> 01:24:00,816
go out there and do their own research, see it with their own eyes, read it, um, and then digest

961
01:24:00,816 --> 01:24:07,096
it and see what they can add to this conversation. Because the more eyes and ears that we have that

962
01:24:07,096 --> 01:24:13,096
are digging and, and, and then posting and talking about it, you know, they don't have anywhere to

963
01:24:13,096 --> 01:24:17,316
turn at that point. And that's, that's kind of where we need to leave. And we need to leave them

964
01:24:17,316 --> 01:24:24,636
in a state of you will surrender and you will stop this madness. And, you know, we're just not

965
01:24:24,636 --> 01:24:28,896
going to deal with it anymore. Like that's, that's kind of, you know, I hope how this ends up,

966
01:24:28,896 --> 01:24:34,336
because the last thing we need is some bloody revolution, civil war, war three, for God's sake.

967
01:24:34,336 --> 01:24:46,696
So, yeah, I'd say X is probably your most prolific place to go in and find what you're looking for and then probably meet the people that can help you even more.

968
01:24:47,536 --> 01:24:59,716
And you can join me in trying to pull all of those signal providers on X over to Noster so we can keep them safe from getting censored and actually get them paid and supported for the hard work they're doing and the bravery they're showing.

969
01:24:59,716 --> 01:25:03,016
So definitely going to continue that mission, sir.

970
01:25:03,016 --> 01:25:04,756
It has been such a pleasure.

971
01:25:04,896 --> 01:25:06,976
Thank you so much for coming by and having this conversation.

972
01:25:07,156 --> 01:25:08,396
I look forward to keeping in touch.

973
01:25:08,796 --> 01:25:15,096
And fingers crossed the world doesn't get too more crazy in the directions that we're a little bit worried about.

974
01:25:15,216 --> 01:25:19,096
But we will be in touch to jump on an episode in the future if that ever happens.

975
01:25:19,196 --> 01:25:24,616
I think that you're a great guy to walk people through the reality behind the media picture.

976
01:25:24,856 --> 01:25:28,236
So we'll keep tabs on each other just in case it gets there.

977
01:25:28,316 --> 01:25:31,396
And look forward to following through this crazy chaos with you, sir.

978
01:25:31,396 --> 01:25:34,856
Very, very much thankful to have you in my life and the Bitcoin ecosystem.

979
01:25:35,356 --> 01:25:35,976
Thanks, Ben.