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I would get up in the morning and I will just, my first thing would be, okay, how can I end my life?

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And three months, four months down the road, then I started carnivore.

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I woke up one day and I realized I'm not thinking about it anymore.

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Like I do have motivation to do something today.

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I do have motivation to live.

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I do have motivation to wake up, to do this or to do that.

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It's just like it seems that I'm a different person.

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This has changed dramatically my life.

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So if somebody is in the same place where I started and doesn't see that light at the end of that tunnel, that light exists.

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Hello, everyone.

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Thank you so much for coming by for another episode of the Ben Worman podcast today.

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I really appreciate you being here.

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Today, I am joined by Laura, not Laura.

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We've tried to pronounce it correctly.

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Laura, aka TheVeganTurnCarnivore on Instagram.

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Really appreciate you being here, Laura, to share your story.

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Thank you for coming.

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Thank you so much for inviting me and even learning to pronounce correctly my name.

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I'm originally Lithuanian, so even if it's spelled the same,

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people who know me or my friends my work colleagues they know that it's pronounced louder

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it's one of the most common names in the world but the pronunciation changes depending on where

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you are yeah i guess so so why don't we start with your story which is i think you know i'd

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never get tired of these stories where people just go through this journey of learning things

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and continuing to change their mind on things in their pursuit of finding the best health possible,

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which I think is just a rabbit hole that everyone out there is beginning to at least tiptoe into right now

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as more people learn that things aren't as they seem.

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So walk us through the vegan-turned-carnivore story.

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How did you go through each of those steps, and how did your body change along the way?

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It has started many years ago.

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I have been, between being vegan, vegetarian, pescetarian, it was 13 years that I didn't have any meat at all.

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So it has started, my journey has started almost 15 years ago because I have been carnival now for two years

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and I didn't go from vegan to carnival.

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It has been a journey.

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A lot of people think that overnight I woke up and I started eating meat, but it hasn't been like that.

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So first of all, I started like everywhere, like everyone has a reason to start a healthy journey.

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So my health journey started when my uncle got sick, he got cancer, and then suddenly at the age of 44 passed.

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And that was more than 15 years ago now.

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And I started looking, okay, so why do we get sick?

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Why somebody healthy, in shape, somebody who moves constantly, workouts, gets sick and dies suddenly.

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And I came to the book that is called The China Study.

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Like probably a lot of vegans come to that book.

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But now I understand it's totally not relevant.

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The study is not correct.

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and it was talking about being vegan.

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Also from vegan, I went to be raw vegan.

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So for eight months, I ate only fruits and vegetables.

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And then I went with time to be vegetarian and then pescetarian.

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And then around two years ago, I understood that my health is just deteriorating.

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I was always lacking energy.

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I was having massive migraines.

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I was having eczema.

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I was having itchy skin.

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I was having bleeding gums and a lot of other issues, massive digestion issues, first of all,

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because you can imagine when you eat a lot of vegetables and a lot of fruits

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and you don't have a very, very good digestive system.

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Fiber is literally indigestible for humans, for those who didn't know.

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It just goes straight through the tube and out the other end.

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Your body doesn't break it down.

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So it's going to wreck your digestion at some point.

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And I didn't know that.

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Now I know about natural toxins that are present in vegetables

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and also that it's not something that is basically a waste.

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And what fiber also does is not that we don't get anything out of it.

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It also can deplete us from other nutrients that we eat from, let's say, meat or eggs or cheese or other things.

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and they were seeing me suffering specifically with my horrible digestion where it doesn't matter

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whatever I would eat I would have massive bloating I would have acid reflux I would have a stomach

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cramps and the acid reflux sometimes would be so bad that I wouldn't be able to sleep the night

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or I would get up at two o'clock in the morning and I would just be rolling in bed and I couldn't

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sleep anymore and my sister was trying to convince me for a while why don't you start

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eating meat why so it took her to convince me like it took around two years to convince me to

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start eating some meats and uh being vegan and vegetarian i also became anemic so i said okay

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I will do so I started eating meat slowly slowly and just when I was visiting her mostly so I

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wouldn't cook myself in first place and also understanding that it came in understanding that

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you know there is whatever you eat there will be some sort of sacrifice it's a meat that uh if you

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are vegan you don't kill animals yes vegans kill by my understanding way more animals more animals

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with the pesticides herbicides with how it gets harvested the grains the the vegetables the fruits

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and everything you're talking about how it gets damaged the natural habitat of a lot of animals

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and how much water is used, how far avocados are coming from Costa Rica to UK because UK doesn't

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grow avocados and so on and so on. So I got that understanding as well where eating cacao

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for one person is enough for maybe a year and a half. So it's much less killing and much more

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sustainable in my understanding. And I did some tests for my health and I discovered that I had

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SIBO. So SIBO is a small intestine bacteria overgrowth. That's why I was feeling so unwell,

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whatever I would eat and mostly fruits and vegetables. So everything that was sweet or

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everything that had fiber would make me feel the worst. And my sister told me, oh, you go on the

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antibiotics that will not help you or you do carnival for 30 days and you take those natural

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supplements and she had success with other carnival clients as well because normally people

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come to her and the doctor says oh there is no another pill for you you know good for her that's

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i mean as a she's a nutritionist you said right yes good like that's amazing i imagine the percentage

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of nutritionists who have figured out that the solution for everyone is to just eat meat

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is tragically tiny.

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So props to her for figuring that out and getting to it.

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of research by herself and was reading a lot and is interested a lot in the neuroscience

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and what is happening.

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and with her own health and the health with her daughter she discovered a lot of new things and

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like more I read more I study myself I understand how bad are the grains and how it doesn't matter

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if you're allergic not allergic to gluten nobody should be eating it because how much damage it can

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create so that's how I started my carnival journey so what was supposed to be 30 days

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now is 660 something I didn't look to the calendar today but I started it on the 27th of June in 2023

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I still remember the day amazing and so walk me through the different things that you experienced

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as after you made that switch and started to not just add meat in but take the plants out and just

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go all meat what did you start to feel differently in your body as you went through that transition

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so before i went carnivore i was kind of keto more or less so i always try to like in my house

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there was never a lot of ultra processed foods it would be just an occasional thing i mainly would

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cook at home in any way. I have been to McDonald's maybe 20 years ago last time. So it's not that I

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went, you know, from eating rubbish to suddenly eating proper food, like a lot of people there

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saying, or a lot of vegans saying, oh, now you are feeling better because you cut out all the

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processed foods. It's not the case. So it changed. So the first two weeks, they were really, really

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hot the first two three weeks when I started I was feeling dizzy I was feeling headaches I was

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feeling low in energy I couldn't even see meat anymore it was I would say horrible but then

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suddenly one day I woke up and I was feeling amazing my energy was high I was not bloated

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anymore I was not having stomach cramps anymore I was not having acid reflux anymore I started

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sleeping well I stopped having migraines I stopped having itchy skin and after those 30 days I said I feel good now So what if I do 100 days

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And that's, I decided to do 100 days.

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so many things have changed

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that I decided to do it my lifestyle.

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now we never know what will happen in the future like maybe tomorrow I will start eating

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occasionally a vegetable here a fruit there but I definitely know that I will never come back

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eating grains or I will never come back eating sugar or I will never come back eating ultra

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processed foods not even occasionally because I believe that all my life I had a food addiction

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and I didn't even realize it.

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I did have eating disorders for a long time as well, more than 20 years.

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and will not go anywhere.

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oh, I'm not thinking about food all the day.

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I'm not like my life is not going around food anymore yes I do eat and yes I do cook like we

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all do but then it's not time to eat my mind is not about food and it's so liberating because

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you know I always thought that once you have eating disorders you can't get rid of them

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and I did so many different treatments I did so many different therapists I did so many

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you know hypnosis you name it like all sorts of techniques yoga meditation and nothing really

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like nothing worked but then with carnivore that noise that food noise that self-doubt

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has disappeared completely and even in almost two years of carnival I didn't really

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lose much weight I lost like a few kilos and my body shape has transformed and another motivation

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why my sister convinced me to do it like I thought okay I will lose some weight it wasn't in my case

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but I got so many amazing benefits and the biggest motivation for me to continue

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is because since I was a teenager, I had a suicidal depression and that has gone.

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So I would get up in the morning and I will just, my first thing would be, okay, how can I end my life?

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And three months, four months down the road, then I started carnivore.

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I woke up one day and I realized I'm not thinking about it anymore like I do have motivation to do

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something today I do have motivation to live I do have motivation to wake up to do this or to do that

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it is just like it seems that I'm a different person and that is my biggest motivation to

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continue so yeah the reason I started carnival is not the reason I continue basically

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yeah and this is so common we see this how once people go through this this journey and sort of

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enlighten themselves to understanding how they were led so wrong before and they've figured out

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the solution that works for them and the more they research you realize wow this is this is a

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solution for everybody really this is like a species-wide thing it fills you with that motivation

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to go spread the word it really unlocks that human desire to help the people around you

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So it gives you that fulfillment and that natural human connection and desire to help people around you, which just has such a tremendous power of lifting you out of these suppressed mental states.

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And I would say just for myself, I wasn't suffering from debilitating depression, anxiety or anything.

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But after going carnivore, I unlocked a very different gear, just a whole nother level above that where you just feel your hormones kicking in a much higher gear.

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much more energy, much sharper. Everything just sort of clicks better mentally. And I would agree

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with you. I would say the biggest benefits I felt were mental and also agreeing with you were those

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first few weeks were tough. And this is why it's important to get educated for people who want to

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go out and try this is that a lot of people get led astray by those first few weeks that are

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difficult because your body is going through a big transformation when you completely switch the fuel

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source from carbs to fat. And it's going to throw a little bit of a temper tantrum because it's

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addicted to sugar. If that's what you've been eating a lot of before, then it's not going to

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love it at first when you get rid of that. And it's going to, for me, I also had really low energy.

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I remember I was going to the gym. I just didn't have a lot of energy for a couple of weeks.

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he had very different side effects. And this is a bio-individual thing. Everyone has

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slightly different reactions to making that switch.

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But for him, he just had crazy oxalate dumping right out of the gate.

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He was having these crystals come out of his eyes

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and just like the dead skin just coming out of his back like super weirdly.

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Like he would wake up in the morning,

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there would just be like this brown flakes all over his bed.

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where once you stop consuming all those plant toxins

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from the fruits and vegetables and grains, like you mentioned,

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it takes a deep breath. It goes through that transition phase where it's not really sure what

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to do yet, where that manifests as low energy, some confusion, some maybe physical issues.

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Like I know people who have skin issues like acne or eczema, because of that oxalate dumping

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purging process that happens, it can even get more intense because it's trying to push all

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those toxins out really quickly since you're not consuming them anymore. So lots of things for

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people to understand. It's not always a smooth process, but you just have to be prepared and

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understand how your body works when it goes through a transition like that. And on the other side,

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it's much better. You're always going to feel better once you push through those first few weeks

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and it'll be worth it we promise and sometimes uh i get comments or i get dms that uh somebody

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started carnival a week ago or two weeks ago and they're feeling amazing so it's not sad that

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you necessarily need to be you know unwell uh some people they are totally fine it depends i guess

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how much toxins you have in your body in general. And I used to eat a lot of vegetables before,

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like a lot of fruits as well. So it's a lot of sugar. And you don't even need to eat necessarily

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chocolate or processed sugar. You can also eat a lot of fruits and then go through that withdrawal

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and that detox of sugar by eating fruits.

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And now, for example, I used to have so many cravings all the time.

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And now I don't crave anything sweet anymore.

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And I even have a drawer in my kitchen where I have some chocolates

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because if somebody would come for coffee occasionally,

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I actually maybe need to look at the date of expiration because they might have been expired by now.

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But I never opened that drawer and I didn't even think about that drawer.

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Old me could never do this.

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So, and the thing is, like, if you want to try to do Karin, well, I would say try it for 30 days and see how you feel.

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You don't need to think that, oh, maybe forever I will not eat cake, so I will not eat pizza, so I will not eat bread, even if I find out how to make amazing pizza, carnival pizza and amazing bread.

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So you can get creative and do other things from the foods you can eat.

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I know you're big on the recipes. I have that on my notes. We're going to get into that later for sure.

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so so yeah everybody's experience is so unique and so different and i would say

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like uh everyone i spoke carnival was really working and it's not necessarily you need to be

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on carnival all your life like if you healed your body and you feel like you can occasionally

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introduce some fruits and some vegetables that is fine if that's what works for you

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it's absolutely fine. I don't know if I would ever introduce something sweet because I believe that we

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can all moderate things and I'm not a moderator that has to do with sweet things

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or just be away from those things and I think I'm the second one. It's like alcoholics, not everyone

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who has a glass of wine will become an alcoholic but some i think the statistic is like 20 percent

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of the people who have ever had alcohol they will become alcoholics so i would rather stay away

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from everything that is sweet and that that will not bring my food noise again into my life

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yeah i totally agree and i i would say that the stance i usually try to take when i share it with

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people is just like you said you don't have to say that you have to stop being plants forever

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right away that's too much for people to take just just treat it as an experiment as we all did

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for me it was definitely an experiment first i thought it sounded crazy like everybody else

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and just found that it kept working and kept making me feel better and better every week i

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was doing it my energy improved my mental clarity improved my like I started gaining more muscle

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that I didn't have before and just all these things just started working better and if you're

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going through the process and also listening to people like Dr. Anthony Chafee's podcast who

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just does a wonderful job explaining all this stuff or following someone like you on Instagram

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who are sharing your story combining this content consumption with the actual action of you doing it

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yourself it kind of helps you keep you locked in and keep you motivated to to really see it through

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and everyone I just don't hear examples of people that have a bad time with this unless

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they they do something weird like eat a ton of organs or something that's when people start

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getting messed up because your vitamin levels get screwed up so I personally don't eat any organs

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have you touched organs as you found that did anything with you well I do occasionally eat

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some liver and I just recently tried a beef heart It wasn my favorite but I try to eat some liver time to time not that often So normally I don really take any supplements apart of magnesium or I don take anything like on a daily basis

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or sometimes you will see me having some iodine or sometimes you will see me having something else

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but like I don't do it every day so I do those things occasionally because I believe that every

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herb or even spices they are medicinal and you can't be using them all the time.

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that's such a great point that i i think that a lot of carnivores would agree with i definitely

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agree with this is that i still think that there is definitely use for plants as a medicine they

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have very magical properties that can do specific things for your body really well i just want people

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understand the difference between food and medicine because eating something every day like you

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wouldn't want to take you know pharmaceuticals every day for a problem just like you you know

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you treat it differently as like a niche case and one of the things that i would throw out there as

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well this isn't a plan i think this is like it's just like a tar but shilajit is the stuff that i

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got from uh this local market here in costa rica for anyone wondering what this weird brown water

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is i'm drinking i that's my new podcast routine i make some shilajit water and i just drink that

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as i'm doing it but uh like these different things that you can add on top as uh just little

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supplements like you said it should be treated as a supplement and i've been learning more and more

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about these extra detox protocols you can do because as we're unfortunately learning more and

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more there are toxic things in the environment outside of our control even if your diet is

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perfect i know that you you post pictures of how you notice that this weird thing happens when you

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leave the uk the sky turns blue this crazy color we used to see the blue sky now it's just like

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this white haze everywhere no one's asking any questions but that's why i can tell for sure

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detox for that reason.

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People can literally, if you go test your freaking pond in your backyard, you will find

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aluminum in it because that's what is being sprayed in the sky by these planes everywhere.

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And I'm glad more people are just not afraid to bring this up and post it on social media

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because it's happening.

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It's, I mean, the crazy conspiracy theorists have been right about everything so far.

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So they're still batting a thousand.

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But yeah, heavy metal detox.

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You need to be also careful because my account has several times been shadow banned because I posted something like that.

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So I try to post a little bit less or in different wordings now.

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You have to be secretive and clever with it, unfortunately.

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And I don't know. Have you heard of Nostr before?

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Of what?

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Nostr, N-O-S-T-R.

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I don't know.

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because this is something that i really want you to check out it's a social media protocol that

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works much differently than a platform it's completely decentralized and it's basically

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built by a bunch of bitcoiners who understand the big tech problem of the censorship and

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i saw you have over 100k followers on instagram so we need to make sure that we give you a safe

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backup there's a a bunch of carnivores coming over there right now ken barry's been going on

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for a while and he loves it you can earn bitcoin for your posts it's super cool i'm going to send

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you some stuff on now i think you'd thrive there and uh talking about um kim berry and all the other

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um like chafee and all the other doctors and not only doctors but people who have been carnivores

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for years i before i started carnivore i have listened for hours and hours of and hours of

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podcast interviews read the books so I think the most important thing to start is you do your

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research you find somebody who had the same symptoms and see what they did and how they feel

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now and you know why you want to do it because if you don't have your why it will be very very hard

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because sometimes you have hard days.

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Something stressful happens.

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And you need to know why you want to continue

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and why you have that direction.

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So I always advocate for not just believe me

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or believe you or believe somebody else.

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Like do your own research, read, listen,

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and then take what suits for you

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and what you can take out the best of it.

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And it has definitely helped me to be motivated

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to have that community of people that you can also talk,

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message, get inspired, read, listen to podcasts.

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It has definitely helped me a lot.

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I love it. I totally agree.

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Talking about the supplements, I would say first start corn war.

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don't get any supplements whatsoever,

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then you are feeling good and you want to get extra step,

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then start looking into how can I increase my mitochondria activity

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or how can I detox my body from heavy metals

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or how can I detox my body from parasites

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or how can I do this or that.

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I think nutrition and living with the circadian red, so having proper daylight in your eyes and try to avoid blue lights and screens all day long is the basic.

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Then whatever you add later, it might be for your benefit, but it's also, you know, you need to try on yourself because what works for other person might not work for you.

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yeah 100 i think that that is really just important to when you're doing an experiment

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like this to try to keep the variables as minimal as possible like you said and so just going purely

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carnivore and not cheating at all for a month i know you can do it it's hard out there i know it's

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difficult but just do it for 30 days and then you will see the differences and you'll know that

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that's what it is and it's very good useful information for you to keep in the mental bank

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of like, okay, starting to figure out how your body reacts to things in a different way. And like

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you mentioned earlier, later on, feel free to throw stuff back in. I've thrown stuff back in

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because I'm curious what happens. And I noticed that, wow, this is actually a big difference. I

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actually feel like noticeably worse after just eating some fruit now, because my body has gotten

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rid of all those toxins. And when you're putting them back in, you can feel the difference. And it's

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not a huge difference. I tolerate it more than or better than most people can. I don't really get

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thrown that off it doesn't turn into a slippery slope for me i can usually pull it back around

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easily but i still just feel a little bit less good so why would you do that when you life is

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short as well like a month of eating fruits and vegetables as well reintroducing that but everyone

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who did it they all said that their energy levels went down their cravings increased

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their food consumption increased, they started gaining weight, they started having brain fog and things like this.

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So I'm saying, okay, maybe I should do next month and then I push it back and then maybe I should do next month,

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but then I'm pushing it back because somehow I don't feel motivated to reintroduce those foods.

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and actually in January I did 35 days of lion's diet so I thought I was feeling good on corn all

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right but then I started eating so I drink coffee I try to drink it not that much and I try to drink

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mostly decaf so I took away coffee and I took away everything like seafood eggs cheese dairy

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all the dairy products as well and i felt amazing like i felt amazing so if carnivores already high

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lions was even higher but it's not sustainable for me like i was craving for eggs i was craving

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for coffee i was craving for cheese so what i decided to do i decided to eat as much as i can

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like lion diet so some days I have only beef for example where I have lamb for breakfast and beef

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for dinner and I do drink coffee again so I reintroduced it again and I buy maybe a pack of

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eggs then I don't buy it for a week and then I buy it again so I'm kind of trying to do this way

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and maybe like next month or somewhere soon I will do another month of just strict lying

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and because I think that was the greatest but like I said it's not sustainable for me

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so I try to make my life work but I don't feel like I'm missing a lot of things and

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honestly being carnivore i don't miss like i don't feel like i'm missing like it's not that i can't

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have a social life anymore yes i don't drink alcohol anymore for two years and that wasn't my

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goal i have never drank a lot so i will have maybe a glass of wine and then two months i will not have

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anything and then i will have another two glasses of wine and then maybe a month i will not have

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anything but my goal was not to drink alcohol for the first 100 days and after like 110 days or so

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it was my birthday so I had dinner at my house I got a prosecco that I'd normally always liked before

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and I poured myself a glass as well and I just touched my I didn't even have a sip because

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just the smell was already I don't want it so I just touched my lips and it was

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it was not tasting good so at that point I realized why should I poison my brain

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and my body with something that I don't even enjoy or like anymore and I have

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natural you know it's not for me so yeah that was that was it and I never

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craved for alcohol anymore like even the smell of it is not it's not pleasant

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anymore yeah yeah and I would completely agree with you I also did a lion diet experiment when I was in Mexico I was staying at this place that had a really nice grill There was decently cheap steak nearby

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And I also had a private roof.

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So I was just like my daily routine was just throwing steak on the grill, throw a little bit of salt on there.

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No dairy needed.

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Didn't need any butter on it.

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I go lay in the sun naked on the roof all day and like so amazing.

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Like I've never felt just more jazzed and more energized with life.

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I really do think that Lion Diet is the peak.

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And I like your analogy of using that as sort of an anchor point.

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And I don't 100% do that all the time.

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Like right now in Costa Rica, there's lots of raw milk distributors everywhere.

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So I've been having like raw butter and milk and ground beef with, you know, I have been good about coffee.

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I think I'm about a month with no coffee right now because I'm in the same boat where I definitely believe coffee is just straight up bad for people.

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I've gone through that, the studying.

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I don't think it's good for you, unfortunately, for the people that have those studies that do.

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But it gives you the feeling of energy.

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You're basically stealing energy from the future to use in the present.

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And I'm not going to say I'm never going to use that ever again because sometimes there are certain things that you want to feel artificially energetic for.

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but I do think Lion Diet is the peak.

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And the more people can just use that as a North Star

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and just have like a mental understanding

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of what the truth is,

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I think that that's a huge win.

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Even if people don't decide to always follow it 100%,

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like neither of us even do, you know?

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It's just important to know what the truth is

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at the end of the day.

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And even the coffee,

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I like your saying that it's stealing the energy

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from the future.

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I heard this,

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somebody said that the same with alcohol and that's why I drink mostly decaf coffee

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it's not for the energy rash it's not it's for me it's purely taste because I just love the taste

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and it's something that I can you know I can go out with my friends and socialize

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socialize and grab a nice coffee and uh i believe that i have compromised so much

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that i decided i will leave this one thing and this is my treat this is my dessert uh this is my

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cheats thing you know and yes probably coffee is not the best because it's still

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a fruit, it's a seed, so it's even worse and it can have a lot of fungus in it, it can have a lot of

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other stuff like mold as well, so I try to buy it organic as well and like I said, I probably cut it

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in half, so most days I have one cup, max two cups, I used to have four or five coffees a day,

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now i don't anymore yeah i i like anthony chafee's way that he puts it it's like a seed is a plant's

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baby so it has the most defense chemicals and you're basically just grinding all these defense

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chemicals up and drinking the juice yeah and there are a lot of downsides to that

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herbicides and all the other stuff that you can't even wash away it blocks vitamin absorption too

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Like that's one of the things I didn't really know before is that it blocks the absorption of like collagen and certain vitamins.

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And it – I know – I think it's underplayed how much it disrupts your sleeping rhythms as well.

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Like I know people say, oh, as long as you drink it in the morning, you're fine.

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But when you look at how much it sticks around, it – I forget how many hours it takes.

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Like it cuts in half maybe every six hours or something, something like that.

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But there's still going to be some caffeine in your system when you go to bed that night,

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even if you stop drinking in the morning.

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That's going to slightly detract from your sleep quality.

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So trade-offs.

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Some people like having certain things, and it brings them joy.

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And life is short at the end of the day,

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so there are certain things that bring you joy

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as long as you go into understanding the trade-offs and live your life.

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I think that most carnivores would agree we're not here to tell you what to eat,

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but we are sharing stories about what we believe is the truth

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of what the best is should you choose to go closer to that direction.

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And we think it will help you.

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And what works for us.

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Yes, yes.

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And another thing that I wanted to quickly drop in here

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that you were talking about earlier about how the people listening

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need to find the content creators

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or going through the same things that they have,

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I wanted to take this opportunity to quickly shill something

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that I actually made, a website I made called whycarnivore.com.

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Can you see this website here?

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Yeah.

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So I made this specifically for people who have any sort of issue,

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and they're going to see if carnivores help this.

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So you talked about SIBO earlier.

416
00:39:44,573 --> 00:39:47,673
So I just do CTRL-F SIBO and find that here,

417
00:39:47,794 --> 00:39:49,794
small intestinal bacterial overgrowth.

418
00:39:49,934 --> 00:39:51,253
Click that in the table of contents.

419
00:39:51,733 --> 00:39:56,113
And here is a group of all these carnivore testimonials of people who did this

420
00:39:56,113 --> 00:39:58,193
and actually fixed that issue.

421
00:39:58,654 --> 00:40:00,294
So it just makes it easier.

422
00:40:00,294 --> 00:40:02,434
And another one you said, what was it, bloating?

423
00:40:02,854 --> 00:40:10,314
type in bloating and let's see here in the table of contents click that and here's a bunch of people

424
00:40:10,314 --> 00:40:14,973
who experienced this you know went on sean baker's podcast talked about how they literally fixed it

425
00:40:14,973 --> 00:40:18,854
with the carnivore diet so for anyone who doesn't even know where to start looking for people this

426
00:40:18,854 --> 00:40:23,133
is a good place to look for it and find these people like here's a woman i interviewed nia's

427
00:40:23,133 --> 00:40:29,493
way who had the exact same thing and there's always content out there for people to to find

428
00:40:29,493 --> 00:40:29,993
and learn from.

429
00:40:30,033 --> 00:40:31,394
It can be a little bit tricky sometimes,

430
00:40:31,553 --> 00:40:33,314
but just join the community,

431
00:40:33,414 --> 00:40:36,654
start following cool people like Laura here and Laura.

432
00:40:37,434 --> 00:40:40,773
And you'll find a way.

433
00:40:40,854 --> 00:40:42,834
You'll find people that guide you in that direction

434
00:40:42,834 --> 00:40:44,093
through their own experience.

435
00:40:44,693 --> 00:40:46,794
And it'll be a beautiful journey for you.

436
00:40:47,513 --> 00:40:47,713
Yeah.

437
00:40:47,854 --> 00:40:52,374
And if you need to DM me or DM somebody else,

438
00:40:52,374 --> 00:40:54,374
I'm pretty sure that every carnival,

439
00:40:54,493 --> 00:40:55,533
maybe not instantly,

440
00:40:56,013 --> 00:40:58,154
but we'll always get back to you

441
00:40:58,154 --> 00:41:04,633
if you're looking for guidance or if you have questions and like i get a lot of dms as well

442
00:41:04,633 --> 00:41:15,354
and i try to get back to everyone as much as i can and uh yeah try to be always available to answer

443
00:41:15,354 --> 00:41:23,513
the questions because i believe that this has changed dramatically my life so if somebody is

444
00:41:23,513 --> 00:41:29,273
in the same place where I started and doesn't see that light at the end of that tunnel,

445
00:41:29,993 --> 00:41:40,394
that light exists. And by going carnivore, I am in the light now. So I'm happy to help

446
00:41:40,394 --> 00:41:49,874
if somebody needs any guide, like to find that light and to find that solution and getting out

447
00:41:49,874 --> 00:41:54,253
of so many things that hasn't worked in life

448
00:41:54,253 --> 00:41:56,654
because I have tried myself so many things,

449
00:41:57,093 --> 00:41:58,953
so many therapies, so many diets,

450
00:41:59,414 --> 00:42:01,733
and nothing really worked.

451
00:42:03,314 --> 00:42:03,794
Absolutely.

452
00:42:04,073 --> 00:42:05,193
And the same goes for me.

453
00:42:05,334 --> 00:42:07,654
DMs are always open, love chatting with people

454
00:42:07,654 --> 00:42:10,273
as much as possible to help show them the way

455
00:42:10,273 --> 00:42:12,053
or at least towards someone who can help them.

456
00:42:13,053 --> 00:42:14,993
One of the things I took a note of here

457
00:42:14,993 --> 00:42:15,874
that I want to bring up,

458
00:42:15,894 --> 00:42:17,113
and you just touched on there as well,

459
00:42:17,193 --> 00:42:18,794
is eating disorders.

460
00:42:18,794 --> 00:42:26,233
This is something that's become so common for people, and it's just becoming normalized at this point that everyone has some sort of eating disorder, especially young women.

461
00:42:27,073 --> 00:42:36,693
And I want to hear your thoughts on just this thing I keep hearing the haters say of like, oh, carnivore is just another eating disorder because it's so extreme.

462
00:42:37,173 --> 00:42:42,053
What are your thoughts on that, and what do you think about these points?

463
00:42:42,053 --> 00:42:49,213
I think eating disorders are booming more than ever because of the social media first of all

464
00:42:49,213 --> 00:42:57,113
and we see perfection we see perfect bodies perfect shapes perfect confidence that not

465
00:42:57,113 --> 00:43:06,013
necessarily is everything as perfect as you see those accounts and sometimes eating disorders

466
00:43:06,013 --> 00:43:11,794
they come because some people had some sort of trauma in life as well and they kind of

467
00:43:11,794 --> 00:43:20,233
use foods or not eating as protection from the feelings. Now for me I had eating disorders since

468
00:43:20,233 --> 00:43:27,153
I was a teenager. I don't really know what exactly has happened because nothing dramatic or traumatic

469
00:43:27,153 --> 00:43:35,454
ever happened in my life. I can't recall that moment why and where. I just always thought oh

470
00:43:35,454 --> 00:43:46,673
I'd love to eat and I want to have a good body shape. I've never been obese or yes I do have

471
00:43:46,673 --> 00:43:54,573
few kilos extra but I do have a lot of lean mass and muscle mass so if I do a scan yes I

472
00:43:54,573 --> 00:44:05,973
my BMI is slightly higher, but also my lean mass is higher than average. So I do have a lot of

473
00:44:05,973 --> 00:44:16,294
muscles as well. And so especially in Lithuania, because I'm Lithuanian originally, and in Lithuania,

474
00:44:16,294 --> 00:44:26,773
there was when I was growing up everybody was lean and skinny so for me I was bullied at school

475
00:44:26,773 --> 00:44:35,973
like I said I have never been fat but I was always called fat and I guess that's how

476
00:44:35,973 --> 00:44:44,033
everything has started and eating disorders is something that you purposely do something

477
00:44:44,033 --> 00:44:45,794
that is bad for you.

478
00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:51,294
So, or you are overeating and purging,

479
00:44:51,673 --> 00:44:53,073
or you are under eating.

480
00:44:53,773 --> 00:44:56,314
So you are not giving enough nutrients to your body.

481
00:44:56,954 --> 00:44:59,513
And one lives together with another.

482
00:44:59,513 --> 00:45:04,473
So you can't be bulimic or you can't be anorexic.

483
00:45:04,693 --> 00:45:07,553
I think they are always hand in hand,

484
00:45:07,673 --> 00:45:08,633
traveling together.

485
00:45:09,314 --> 00:45:12,233
And unfortunately, once you are in that cycle,

486
00:45:12,233 --> 00:45:22,653
it's like something gets control of yourself it's like you're getting possessed you don't even know

487
00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:28,213
what you're doing unless it's too late so how many times I promised myself from tomorrow

488
00:45:28,213 --> 00:45:37,454
I'm not gonna have and do anything of that but it comes to tomorrow and then the cycle starts again

489
00:45:37,454 --> 00:45:39,993
and you just don't have a way out.

490
00:45:40,673 --> 00:45:44,874
So like I mentioned before, I did several therapies.

491
00:45:45,354 --> 00:45:51,213
I did different treatments and nothing really worked

492
00:45:51,213 --> 00:45:54,573
because I was still lacking confidence.

493
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:58,753
I was still in that same circle.

494
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:06,394
So the last, I would say the last more or less five years,

495
00:46:06,394 --> 00:46:08,394
I was in remission.

496
00:46:08,394 --> 00:46:14,394
So I was not overeating and then going to froze.

497
00:46:14,394 --> 00:46:16,713
Or I was not...

498
00:46:16,738 --> 00:46:25,238
starving myself anymore but the thought was always there so it was never the food noise was always

499
00:46:25,238 --> 00:46:35,118
there it was never leaving me alone and I needed a massive strength not to give up to that voice

500
00:46:35,118 --> 00:46:45,398
that was constantly talking to me like I would say it's like somebody possess your body you don't

501
00:46:45,398 --> 00:46:50,858
have control of it and a lot of people are saying oh you just need to have you know willpower

502
00:46:50,858 --> 00:46:58,218
like you can't say for somebody who has eating disorders to have willpower because that willpower

503
00:46:58,218 --> 00:47:06,978
does not like it's not that I'm purposely doing it but it's something stronger than me that is doing

504
00:47:06,978 --> 00:47:17,058
it and then of course when you realize after it's done you feel guilty you feel all sorts of

505
00:47:17,058 --> 00:47:28,098
feelings for yourself you feel even fat you feel ugly you feel depressed you like it's a horrible

506
00:47:28,098 --> 00:47:36,138
feeling and the most horrible thing is having that food noise 24 hours a day like it's first thing

507
00:47:36,138 --> 00:47:44,778
then you get up in the morning and it's last thing when you go to sleep but luckily like I feel

508
00:47:44,778 --> 00:47:54,298
completely free out of it like I don't think about foods like I used to and even if I do a fasting

509
00:47:54,298 --> 00:48:02,778
I'm doing a therapeutical fasting I'm not doing it to starve myself or to lose weight I'm doing

510
00:48:02,778 --> 00:48:08,338
because I know that it has good healing properties.

511
00:48:08,998 --> 00:48:10,258
And that's why I'm doing it.

512
00:48:11,458 --> 00:48:13,698
And sometimes in the beginning when I started carnival,

513
00:48:13,818 --> 00:48:17,618
I even was looking, I was counting calories for some time

514
00:48:17,618 --> 00:48:21,278
to see if I'm not under eating or over eating as well.

515
00:48:21,398 --> 00:48:24,838
Because I didn't really know how to regulate myself.

516
00:48:24,838 --> 00:48:30,578
I have never had in my life the understanding

517
00:48:30,578 --> 00:48:32,538
what it means to be satiated.

518
00:48:32,778 --> 00:48:41,698
So I could eat, I don't know, a tons of food and in my head I was still feeling hungry.

519
00:48:42,838 --> 00:48:50,498
That didn't come, like that satisfied sense didn't come very quickly.

520
00:48:50,498 --> 00:49:00,498
So it was maybe five, six months on carnivore that I understood, oh, I don't want anymore.

521
00:49:00,618 --> 00:49:02,958
Like I can leave something in my plate.

522
00:49:03,078 --> 00:49:05,398
That has never happened before in my life.

523
00:49:05,838 --> 00:49:08,398
I would eat everything and I will want a dessert.

524
00:49:09,178 --> 00:49:17,538
Now, like I eat and I feel, oh, I feel full and I can leave food in my plate.

525
00:49:17,538 --> 00:49:26,198
because my body knows what it means to be satisfied yeah and this is one of the powerful

526
00:49:26,198 --> 00:49:32,678
rewirings that your brain experiences and i think it's your story is so common where

527
00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:38,118
i mean i don't know what the percentages of people who have eating disorders triggered by

528
00:49:38,118 --> 00:49:43,538
a traumatic event like you said and which ones it just kind of happens out of nowhere and from like

529
00:49:43,538 --> 00:49:49,358
a lot of cumulative experiences, but just the fact that the way that carbohydrates act in your body

530
00:49:49,358 --> 00:49:54,598
of just making you crave more and more, it's going to just throw gasoline on a fire of whatever

531
00:49:54,598 --> 00:49:58,418
little brain issues you may have going on. It's going to make it worse. And you're going to be

532
00:49:58,418 --> 00:50:05,158
stuck thinking about this food all the time. And similarly to you is I never think about food

533
00:50:05,158 --> 00:50:12,398
anymore because each meal I have is so filling and so satiating that it lasts so long. I pretty

534
00:50:12,398 --> 00:50:17,338
much only have two different options I go with depending on where my lifestyle is at. I'll either

535
00:50:17,338 --> 00:50:23,498
have a single meal a day at nighttime and that's more than enough for me. Just have a huge pile of

536
00:50:23,498 --> 00:50:29,698
steak or ground beef. And I can go for 24 hours on that easily. And I'm not even hungry for

537
00:50:29,698 --> 00:50:35,418
breakfast or lunch the next day. And right now when I have a nice gym nearby, I'm lifting and

538
00:50:35,418 --> 00:50:40,598
trying to gain weight. So then I switched to two meals and that's it. I never eat more than two

539
00:50:40,598 --> 00:50:45,498
meals a day like lunch doesn't even really occur on my radar anymore because i'm just never hungry

540
00:50:45,498 --> 00:50:51,518
in the middle of the day i'm always good to go for at least you know 12 hours from from what i eat

541
00:50:51,518 --> 00:50:58,438
last so it's it's truly like this something that people with eating disorders have to give it a try

542
00:50:58,438 --> 00:51:03,838
because you you could really see a huge change once you're just not consuming things that make

543
00:51:03,838 --> 00:51:09,958
you more hungry and pull you into these bad patterns and like anyone that says that carnivore

544
00:51:09,958 --> 00:51:11,958
is another eating disorder because it's too extreme,

545
00:51:12,038 --> 00:51:12,918
just hasn't tried it before.

546
00:51:13,638 --> 00:51:17,118
And I think they're just really reaching for things to say,

547
00:51:17,598 --> 00:51:22,458
to talk people out of it because they think veganism is the way or something.

548
00:51:23,358 --> 00:51:27,358
But it always comes back down to just you have to try it for 30 days for yourself

549
00:51:27,358 --> 00:51:28,178
and see what happens.

550
00:51:28,178 --> 00:51:36,358
Because even considering the possible early effects that we both mentioned

551
00:51:36,358 --> 00:51:38,958
of a little bit of lower energy, maybe you'll have oxalate dumping.

552
00:51:38,958 --> 00:51:46,178
sometimes this happens what's that it's two weeks yeah it's it's super short and even if you do

553
00:51:46,178 --> 00:51:49,518
experience that like i've heard stories of people that do have some of these symptoms

554
00:51:49,518 --> 00:51:55,478
but something so radical happens like they're they're full for a full day and just that alone

555
00:51:55,478 --> 00:51:59,958
is like wow i've never been full for like a full day before it actually felt like energized for a

556
00:51:59,958 --> 00:52:04,938
full day and so even with the other side effects they can like they can see the light at the end

557
00:52:04,938 --> 00:52:10,978
the tunnel much easier because it fixes something so quickly and it's just just gotta try it we could

558
00:52:10,978 --> 00:52:16,638
keep beating that drum all day just 30 days think also people who have eating disorders normally

559
00:52:16,638 --> 00:52:23,438
they crave what they don't crave meat or they don't crave eggs they don't crave fish they crave

560
00:52:23,438 --> 00:52:30,198
you crave biscuits you crave chocolate you crave everything that is ultra processed and what i

561
00:52:30,198 --> 00:52:36,598
understood. And another motivation that makes me continue not eating those foods because I'm so

562
00:52:36,598 --> 00:52:45,758
angry on the food industry, because they hire people purposely to make the food so addictive.

563
00:52:45,758 --> 00:52:54,438
So it's specifically engineered to mess up with our brains. So we want more and more and more of

564
00:52:54,438 --> 00:53:01,198
that food because it stimulates dopamine the stimulation tomorrow is not enough

565
00:53:01,198 --> 00:53:06,998
one biscuit you need to the day after you will need free to get the same dopamine

566
00:53:06,998 --> 00:53:16,838
stimulation so you will want it more and more and more so that is another reason why i'm so

567
00:53:16,838 --> 00:53:22,878
motivated to continue doing car and roll because i know what the industry is doing with us and

568
00:53:22,878 --> 00:53:31,858
everything is for the profits plus food industry and pharma they are connected so one makes us sick

569
00:53:31,858 --> 00:53:40,818
another makes us heal right and then we are trapped like that hamster in the wheel forever

570
00:53:40,818 --> 00:53:47,318
yeah and this is so important for people to get is how

571
00:53:47,318 --> 00:53:54,418
for these industries where you make money by selling stuff, selling a product, which for

572
00:53:54,418 --> 00:54:01,158
food industry is fake food usually, or some sort of edible thing. That's what they sell. And the

573
00:54:01,158 --> 00:54:07,778
pharmaceutical industry sells drugs. So they are both clearly incentivized to want people to be

574
00:54:07,778 --> 00:54:13,458
stuck in these addiction pathways where they're continuing to want more and more of it and getting

575
00:54:13,458 --> 00:54:19,538
sick as a result. And I mean, someone with an eating disorder is the perfect cash cow for both

576
00:54:19,538 --> 00:54:24,458
of these entities. And another one that I would add into the mix, like with the big food and big

577
00:54:24,458 --> 00:54:31,038
pharma is the government itself that really has the money that funds both of these things. And

578
00:54:31,038 --> 00:54:35,278
those who've read The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz, which is one of the major books to read

579
00:54:35,278 --> 00:54:42,318
on the topic of nutrition, is how the USDA food pyramid and all of these, you know, the China

580
00:54:42,318 --> 00:54:47,898
of study like you talked about all these things that are propped out and used to push certain

581
00:54:47,898 --> 00:54:54,498
types of food being served in these in prison systems the schools the nursing homes all these

582
00:54:54,498 --> 00:55:00,118
institutionalized places i mean the schools to me is the the biggest one we have to look at because

583
00:55:00,118 --> 00:55:06,538
they are using these garbage guidelines to push more and more plant-based onto kids and take away

584
00:55:06,538 --> 00:55:19,295
to meet Like when I went to school back in you know around 2010 to 2013 was when I was high school So you know roughly that decade preceding that there was never any steak to eat There was never any ground

585
00:55:19,295 --> 00:55:25,375
beef or, you know, quality meat. It's those plastic rectangle pizzas, it's macaroni and cheese,

586
00:55:25,655 --> 00:55:31,395
it's soup, it's salads, it's bread. And it's just gotten worse since then. You know, I don't even

587
00:55:31,395 --> 00:55:36,875
want to look at what they're serving cafeterias now because these, all these just giant entities

588
00:55:36,875 --> 00:55:41,575
have worked together to really make sure poison becomes a standard from a young age because when

589
00:55:41,575 --> 00:55:46,515
they get you at a young age especially you know young women who are having these problems like

590
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:51,515
you mentioned they're more susceptible to it statistically then you trap them for life they're

591
00:55:51,515 --> 00:55:57,775
a customer for life to the pharmaceuticals and the addicting food it's so evil yeah well luckily i

592
00:55:57,775 --> 00:56:05,015
finished school in 2003 so finished school 2003 so my food was a little bit better there was not

593
00:56:05,015 --> 00:56:12,315
that much ultra processed food so we had proper meals and another book now that you mentioned a

594
00:56:12,315 --> 00:56:22,735
book i would advise to read why vegans have smaller brains it's a very good book and talks about

595
00:56:22,735 --> 00:56:31,695
a lot about science a lot about also sustainability and explains very very easily everything

596
00:56:31,695 --> 00:56:37,755
why meat is much more bioavailable than any vegetables

597
00:56:37,755 --> 00:56:43,775
and why if we want to love our body and to love our planet,

598
00:56:44,095 --> 00:56:46,995
we need to eat meat instead of vegetables.

599
00:56:47,995 --> 00:56:50,635
Yes, and bringing back your point that you mentioned earlier

600
00:56:50,635 --> 00:56:56,815
how the vegan diet is the most destructive and deadly of all the diets

601
00:56:56,815 --> 00:57:01,315
when you actually look at what goes into it to producing those crops

602
00:57:01,315 --> 00:57:09,095
and keeping those monocultures alive by just completely just drenching all of these crops with poison,

603
00:57:09,335 --> 00:57:14,215
pesticides, herbicides, killing all the birds, all the bees, all the insects, all the rodents, everything.

604
00:57:15,115 --> 00:57:18,635
You have much more blood on your hands eating a salad than you do eating a steak.

605
00:57:19,295 --> 00:57:22,215
You said you eat about one.

606
00:57:22,675 --> 00:57:23,015
What's that?

607
00:57:23,355 --> 00:57:23,515
Go ahead.

608
00:57:23,555 --> 00:57:26,215
Pesticides and herbicides, you can't wash them.

609
00:57:26,215 --> 00:57:34,475
so they will take in your food and you will eat them that's why i believe that's why so many people

610
00:57:34,475 --> 00:57:40,615
are allergic to so many things now so many kids are allergic and they're born being allergic because

611
00:57:40,615 --> 00:57:48,275
the mother was eating that food so they kind of come here already intoxicated with different

612
00:57:48,275 --> 00:57:54,635
different substances yeah and that's important because you know these fruits and vegetables they

613
00:57:54,635 --> 00:58:00,115
absorb these pesticides and herbicides. If you sprinkle some water on under the sink,

614
00:58:00,135 --> 00:58:04,175
it's not going to get rid of it. People think that if they wash it, then it's going to fix

615
00:58:04,175 --> 00:58:09,215
the problem. But no, it's, these are like, they're completely poisoned. And I would,

616
00:58:09,355 --> 00:58:12,695
to then the people who would say, oh, I'll go to the farmer's market or grow my own.

617
00:58:13,035 --> 00:58:17,395
It's better because you don't have all those added poisons, but you still have the plant

618
00:58:17,395 --> 00:58:22,315
toxins that are designed to cause problems for you. So this is why we still think that

619
00:58:22,315 --> 00:58:27,615
carnivore is the best but you know there are steps to this game of course if you have to choose

620
00:58:27,615 --> 00:58:32,935
between one without poison one with more added poison take the non-poisonous one but i'm still

621
00:58:32,935 --> 00:58:39,175
going to stay with steak and there are vegetables that are lower in oxalates or lower in lectins so

622
00:58:39,175 --> 00:58:45,395
if you need to like if you want to eat those vegetables don't eat massive quantities and

623
00:58:45,395 --> 00:58:52,255
just choose the vegetables that are less has less toxins so like for example spinach you can get

624
00:58:52,255 --> 00:59:01,995
intoxicated and go to the hospital of spinach poisoning how much oxalates it contains so

625
00:59:01,995 --> 00:59:10,615
just look on google the less of the vegetables that have the least ones and eat those ones at least

626
00:59:10,615 --> 00:59:17,675
and try organic that is not sprayed even if i don't really believe that there is organic

627
00:59:17,675 --> 00:59:24,775
true organic unless you grow it in your garden but even the things that fall down the sky

628
00:59:24,775 --> 00:59:30,535
doesn't make it much organic i guess exactly you know that that's that's the

629
00:59:30,535 --> 00:59:35,095
the depressing thing about just how toxified the entire environment is right now

630
00:59:35,095 --> 00:59:40,435
um there's no such thing as a completely organic fruit or vegetable of any kind

631
00:59:40,435 --> 00:59:43,575
because they're all contaminated in some way it's just a spectrum

632
00:59:43,575 --> 00:59:49,995
so I think that's a lot of great stuff just on the food side I would love to pivot over to another

633
00:59:49,995 --> 00:59:55,575
thing that you talk about on your page which is red light therapy I noted that you you said it

634
00:59:55,575 --> 01:00:00,915
did something very interesting for an injury that you had could you walk us through your experience

635
01:00:00,915 --> 01:00:06,615
with red light therapy and why you think people should look into it so I have been using red light

636
01:00:06,615 --> 01:00:14,735
panel for probably over two years now or just about two years and I think it's brilliant especially

637
01:00:14,735 --> 01:00:24,895
living in UK and in the winter time like we have six months of darkness like no light at all no sun

638
01:00:24,895 --> 01:00:31,615
the sky is always great so first of all red light also helps me with having that

639
01:00:31,615 --> 01:00:38,995
boost of energy and it gives me a sensation that I have been a little bit in the light

640
01:00:38,995 --> 01:00:48,975
and like you have said as well is amazing what it can do for injuries so I do have a bad back

641
01:00:48,975 --> 01:00:54,815
where the carnivore it has improved a lot but I need to be very very careful how

642
01:00:54,815 --> 01:01:03,315
I move and sometimes doing a workout I can twist in the wrong way and I get blocked back for

643
01:01:03,315 --> 01:01:10,635
basically a week and that's where I was doing a lot like in those occasions I would do a lot of

644
01:01:10,635 --> 01:01:17,315
red light so normally I would do it every day for 20 minutes but if I do have an injury it works

645
01:01:17,315 --> 01:01:25,635
magic of injuries i would do like even an hour on my back or on my leg whatever i heard another

646
01:01:25,635 --> 01:01:32,915
thing that red light helped me massively well not only red light it's also talo skincare

647
01:01:32,915 --> 01:01:42,255
castral oil and red light uh panel helped me with my face pigmentation i used to have melasma and i

648
01:01:42,255 --> 01:01:48,255
just recently did a post on my instagram how much documentation i used to have on my face

649
01:01:48,255 --> 01:01:59,895
and now yes you still see it's very a little bit but it's like 10 times less what it used to be

650
01:01:59,895 --> 01:02:09,175
and i was told that melasma can be healed only with steroidal creams uh you need to use them

651
01:02:09,175 --> 01:02:14,755
six months to 12 months. There's nothing you can do. You can't do lasers. You can't do this. You

652
01:02:14,755 --> 01:02:23,295
can't do that. It's only those creams that would work. And I said, okay, let's see if I can do it

653
01:02:23,295 --> 01:02:34,115
myself using something else. So I did a little research. I found that castor oil is good for

654
01:02:34,115 --> 01:02:42,535
pigmentation and what I would do in the morning and in the evening I would put castro oil and

655
01:02:42,535 --> 01:02:51,195
will use all a red light wand or red light panel every morning and every evening so I was doing

656
01:02:51,195 --> 01:02:57,675
that for the last year and I was and I'm using currently natural skincare so the only thing

657
01:02:57,675 --> 01:03:04,435
that is not natural is the mascara because there are no mascaras that are natural and actually I

658
01:03:04,435 --> 01:03:13,175
stopped doing makeup every day so you will see me with makeup very occasionally only because

659
01:03:13,175 --> 01:03:20,575
everything gets absorbed through our skin so whatever you put it can you know still go to

660
01:03:20,575 --> 01:03:27,835
your bloodstream it can still mess up with your hormones and can still cause you health issues

661
01:03:27,835 --> 01:03:37,395
like immune conditions so it's very rarely that I do any makeup and if I do most of my makeup is

662
01:03:37,395 --> 01:03:46,175
also made out of tallow and other natural things so yes I think that red light helped me massively

663
01:03:46,175 --> 01:03:48,595
and it's something that I do every day.

664
01:03:48,595 --> 01:03:53,595
And it gives you that mood boost as well in the wintertime,

665
01:03:55,135 --> 01:03:57,655
especially if you live in the countries like UK

666
01:03:57,655 --> 01:04:01,195
or somewhere more north.

667
01:04:01,195 --> 01:04:15,732
If you live in the country where you have plenty of sun like Costa Rica I bet you have a lot of sun and you can just get those natural red lights from the sun directly

668
01:04:16,212 --> 01:04:17,732
That is even better.

669
01:04:18,132 --> 01:04:23,632
If you don't have that possibility, red light panel is a saver.

670
01:04:25,092 --> 01:04:25,692
Amazing.

671
01:04:25,932 --> 01:04:31,692
And I'm glad you brought up the skincare stuff too because I see this so often.

672
01:04:31,692 --> 01:04:35,312
I remember seeing this in college and I still see young people all the time.

673
01:04:35,312 --> 01:04:38,152
And I can just sort of sense it where they're,

674
01:04:38,352 --> 01:04:40,712
they have all this acne all over their face.

675
01:04:40,752 --> 01:04:43,352
And of course it's totally normalized now that, you know,

676
01:04:43,372 --> 01:04:46,332
every teenager is supposed to have terrible skin for some reason.

677
01:04:46,892 --> 01:04:49,372
And they're, you know,

678
01:04:49,372 --> 01:04:51,712
it's from what they're eating is what first happens.

679
01:04:51,712 --> 01:04:56,192
And then the girls will just cover themselves up with makeup and you can see

680
01:04:56,192 --> 01:04:59,452
the bumps underneath because it's just making it worse though.

681
01:04:59,452 --> 01:05:05,152
You know, you're putting more. The reason why you have acne in the first place is because your body is detoxing.

682
01:05:05,352 --> 01:05:11,952
You're putting too many toxins in. It's purging the detoxing or purging the toxins through your skin pathways.

683
01:05:12,312 --> 01:05:16,292
And then you're covering it up with makeup, which infuses more chemicals into your body.

684
01:05:16,332 --> 01:05:18,292
It just turns into a death spiral.

685
01:05:18,632 --> 01:05:24,052
And it's both really just hard to see this happen because, you know, they're just stuck in that loop.

686
01:05:24,052 --> 01:05:43,912
But it's also really exciting to see those who are open-minded to really trying to fix these things, as more and more people are, because all you really need to do to see a massive difference for the vast majority of people is cut out the seed oils, cut out the carbs, and switch out the makeup for some tallow, like you said, or some lard.

687
01:05:43,912 --> 01:05:51,272
um uh pharaoh skincare i got i had a guy on who has who sells like lard skincare and it's just

688
01:05:51,272 --> 01:05:57,572
using animal fats on your face is great because it it it actually works with your body it's the

689
01:05:57,572 --> 01:06:02,632
same sort of uh acids that your body has and so it's going to make your skin healthier and then

690
01:06:02,632 --> 01:06:07,992
adding things on like red light too getting more sunlight all these things are so powerful and

691
01:06:07,992 --> 01:06:13,672
they're i hope people can hear this and think wow you know i've always been told that the sun is bad

692
01:06:13,672 --> 01:06:19,472
for me it's going to give me cancer and you know that that all these plants are so good for me like

693
01:06:19,472 --> 01:06:23,212
how could I possibly be the problem but they're starting to realize that what they've been doing

694
01:06:23,212 --> 01:06:27,992
hasn't been working it might be time to listen to these people who all have all this energy and

695
01:06:27,992 --> 01:06:33,932
glowing skin all the time maybe try this out for a change see what happens and my skin honestly

696
01:06:33,932 --> 01:06:43,152
by using natural skincare and talo creams look better now than five years back so I like the

697
01:06:43,152 --> 01:06:51,392
carnivore it came also i don't know a certain confidence and certain transformation that i have

698
01:06:51,392 --> 01:06:58,552
never thought i will have because i used to have full face of makeup i needed to put that mask in

699
01:06:58,552 --> 01:07:06,432
on my face and now like especially if you check my instagram most of the posts they have zero makeup

700
01:07:06,432 --> 01:07:14,432
whatsoever and if you would have told me back two years ago that I will post myself with messy hair

701
01:07:14,432 --> 01:07:24,072
no makeup I would say no this is not possible I would never do this but now I just feel much

702
01:07:24,072 --> 01:07:32,672
more confident I just embrace who I am like this is my face you don't like just scroll somewhere

703
01:07:32,672 --> 01:07:41,572
else like i'm 40 years old i believe that i look quite young for the age i am i am against all the

704
01:07:41,572 --> 01:07:50,392
buttockses and all the you know uh things that can damage us our health and our skin so i used to

705
01:07:50,392 --> 01:07:58,632
like i use only natural things and even like face masks and things like that made of honey or maybe

706
01:07:58,632 --> 01:08:06,132
flax seeds or maybe talo like there are some natural things and some that we can do and the

707
01:08:06,132 --> 01:08:13,252
most important thing is the nutrition so what you put inside that makes your skin glow i used to be

708
01:08:13,252 --> 01:08:23,712
so white like my face used to be gray and paper white my eyes used to be like if you scroll

709
01:08:23,712 --> 01:08:32,192
very, very first post and you would notice that my eyes, they didn't have any light in them.

710
01:08:33,132 --> 01:08:42,952
And slowly, slowly, my skin tone started changing. So my eyes started changing, my confidence started

711
01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:53,912
changing so so many other things has changed just by changing my diet and even like I believed to be

712
01:08:53,912 --> 01:09:00,952
spiritual person you need to be vegan or vegetarian you can't certainly eat meat so I have been

713
01:09:00,952 --> 01:09:09,252
meditating and doing spiritual practices and energy healings for the last I don't know 20 years

714
01:09:09,252 --> 01:09:14,452
So I did them when I was vegan vegetarian and I do them now.

715
01:09:14,772 --> 01:09:24,892
And I would say that now that I eat meat and my body is properly nourished and my mind is healthy, I don't have suicidal thoughts.

716
01:09:25,012 --> 01:09:26,252
I don't have depression.

717
01:09:27,032 --> 01:09:29,072
I don't have eating disorders anymore.

718
01:09:29,592 --> 01:09:36,892
That energy stream is so much more powerful that I have never had when I was a vegan.

719
01:09:39,252 --> 01:09:45,032
And what I see a lot of yogis as well, they are coming back to meet.

720
01:09:45,272 --> 01:09:51,852
There are retreats, yoga retreats that you will be fed animal based foods now.

721
01:09:52,092 --> 01:09:55,132
Because I think people are understanding more and more and more.

722
01:09:55,452 --> 01:10:00,272
Because being vegan, you constantly keep your body in starvation.

723
01:10:00,752 --> 01:10:03,992
You don't put any building materials.

724
01:10:04,732 --> 01:10:06,532
So how can you be nourished?

725
01:10:06,532 --> 01:10:11,512
and how that connection with the divine or whatever you want to call

726
01:10:11,512 --> 01:10:17,892
can be clean and clear if your body is starving.

727
01:10:18,692 --> 01:10:20,372
So the body is the temple, right?

728
01:10:21,452 --> 01:10:23,152
To keep our soul.

729
01:10:23,592 --> 01:10:28,872
If that temple is all broken and all falling apart,

730
01:10:29,772 --> 01:10:32,912
how can you feed that soul properly?

731
01:10:32,912 --> 01:10:42,752
you can't and i i'm so with you we need to we need to keep pushing the message out so we can

732
01:10:42,752 --> 01:10:48,612
save all these spiritual folks out there the yogis and the folks who mean so well like you

733
01:10:48,612 --> 01:10:53,032
can tell they have so much love in their heart and they want to do what's best for themselves

734
01:10:53,032 --> 01:10:58,932
the environment the animals and the earth and they were just led astray by some netflix documentaries

735
01:10:58,932 --> 01:11:02,872
and that's why it's important work to help get them back on track because we want them

736
01:11:02,872 --> 01:11:06,552
They are great people who deserve to be super healthy and super thriving.

737
01:11:07,032 --> 01:11:09,532
And people like you are doing the work on that.

738
01:11:09,612 --> 01:11:10,792
And we really appreciate you.

739
01:11:11,412 --> 01:11:16,332
Laura, where can people go to follow all of your content and continue following your story?

740
01:11:17,172 --> 01:11:18,872
So, of course, Instagram.

741
01:11:19,332 --> 01:11:21,292
Mostly I'm present there.

742
01:11:21,292 --> 01:11:25,532
And my name, like you mentioned, is vegan turned carnivore.

743
01:11:26,252 --> 01:11:29,252
I try to post a lot of recipes.

744
01:11:29,532 --> 01:11:32,492
I try to post a lot what I eat.

745
01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:38,592
I try to post, you know, saying, oh, I just finished my 30 minutes workout.

746
01:11:38,592 --> 01:11:47,932
And I do that because people are telling me, oh, because I saw your post, that motivated me to work out even those 20 minutes.

747
01:11:48,152 --> 01:11:50,732
Because I believe, like, I believe in movement.

748
01:11:50,732 --> 01:11:54,512
I used to be a spinning instructor as a hobby for many years.

749
01:11:54,512 --> 01:12:00,952
and I used to abuse my body and used to exercise like way too much.

750
01:12:01,112 --> 01:12:02,792
That is good for our body.

751
01:12:02,912 --> 01:12:05,412
Now I do short workouts.

752
01:12:06,012 --> 01:12:11,472
I try to use like strength resistant workouts or HIIT workouts

753
01:12:11,472 --> 01:12:12,952
and then go for a walk.

754
01:12:13,272 --> 01:12:14,232
That's what I do.

755
01:12:14,812 --> 01:12:18,472
And I post what I post because I constantly get the messages

756
01:12:18,472 --> 01:12:22,532
that because of your post today, I did this, this, and this.

757
01:12:22,532 --> 01:12:31,152
and actually Instagram was born that I started sharing my story first of all for myself to be

758
01:12:31,152 --> 01:12:38,172
motivated because if I say something I will do I kind of said it so I can't pull back now

759
01:12:38,172 --> 01:12:45,512
so it started like this I never imagined that in a year and a half a little bit more now

760
01:12:45,512 --> 01:12:49,532
it will grow with 100 plus followers.

761
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:53,132
Like I never imagined that will happen,

762
01:12:53,132 --> 01:12:57,852
but more I was posting and more DMs I was getting,

763
01:12:57,852 --> 01:13:15,089
more motivation I was getting myself And I know that I have inspired quite a few people And if today I can inspire one person and if today I can help one person I believe my job is done

764
01:13:15,089 --> 01:13:30,149
Because if I go back and I put myself in those times where I really, really suffered and I was so alone and I was so devastated and so depressed.

765
01:13:30,149 --> 01:13:39,869
and my days were basically just to survive and if I could get out of that state

766
01:13:39,869 --> 01:13:49,689
like somebody else who is hearing those words now can do the same at least like there's no damage to

767
01:13:49,689 --> 01:13:55,969
to try for a month or two for free like you're not gonna die from heart attack like a lot of

768
01:13:55,969 --> 01:14:02,689
people they they said to me that i will be dead in six months and actually by the way i did

769
01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:12,729
blood test last year and i did blood tests recently and my cholesterol went down because

770
01:14:12,729 --> 01:14:20,929
then you get fat adapted your cholesterol normalizes and we all know that slightly

771
01:14:20,929 --> 01:14:27,829
higher cholesterol is good for so many things like prevention for alzheimer's like brain

772
01:14:27,829 --> 01:14:36,989
degeneration and so much more and it also all your hormones are cholesterol yeah and so yeah

773
01:14:36,989 --> 01:14:46,269
if you are somebody who already tried it all and still struggles i would say just try it out

774
01:14:46,269 --> 01:14:48,589
and if you want to follow me on Instagram

775
01:14:48,589 --> 01:14:49,749
and get motivated

776
01:14:49,749 --> 01:14:52,989
if you even want me to send you a DM

777
01:14:52,989 --> 01:14:53,789
every day

778
01:14:53,789 --> 01:14:56,649
to remind you that

779
01:14:56,649 --> 01:14:58,289
you can work out

780
01:14:58,289 --> 01:15:00,089
or you can do this or you can do that

781
01:15:00,089 --> 01:15:02,609
just text me and I will do that

782
01:15:02,609 --> 01:15:04,429
I do that

783
01:15:04,429 --> 01:15:06,569
sometimes with my friends because they know

784
01:15:06,569 --> 01:15:08,629
that I can be a good motivator

785
01:15:08,629 --> 01:15:09,629
and a good coach

786
01:15:09,629 --> 01:15:11,309
I can see it

787
01:15:11,309 --> 01:15:16,249
I do have a YouTube channel

788
01:15:16,249 --> 01:15:25,529
as well i'm not posting as much as i i would like mostly it's recipes or some past interviews that i

789
01:15:25,529 --> 01:15:32,449
had with somebody else like i'm having now with with yourself it's the same vegan tent carnival

790
01:15:32,449 --> 01:15:39,089
if you can't find it on my instagram where you definitely will find me on instagram you can go

791
01:15:39,089 --> 01:15:46,109
on my bios the link is in my bios is that where you can find recipes too i forgot to bring up the

792
01:15:46,109 --> 01:15:49,709
recipes from earlier because i know that you're all over that is the best place to find those

793
01:15:49,709 --> 01:15:55,609
your youtube channel or just scattered on instagram or what uh yes so some recipes so

794
01:15:55,609 --> 01:16:04,289
on instagram of course it's short times so you can do it in a way but normally the same recipe

795
01:16:04,289 --> 01:16:11,469
i would do on youtube and i will show all the process so if you want let's say carnival pizza

796
01:16:11,469 --> 01:16:21,209
or carnival cake. I made the most amazing carnival cake for my 30th birthday and all my family asked

797
01:16:21,209 --> 01:16:28,069
for second piece actually. I had some honey for them just in case but most of them they didn't

798
01:16:28,069 --> 01:16:37,749
even need it. So you can get creative like luckily I'm a very creative person and before

799
01:16:37,749 --> 01:16:44,589
turning carnivore I was trying always to make some sort of healthier snacks, healthier treats,

800
01:16:44,769 --> 01:16:51,629
healthier desserts for myself. So instead of using sugar for example I would use dates or bananas or

801
01:16:51,629 --> 01:16:59,489
stevia or instead of using normal flour because I discovered around three years, three and a half

802
01:16:59,489 --> 01:17:06,669
years that I'm gluten intolerant so I haven't been eating gluten or grain for a longer period of time

803
01:17:06,669 --> 01:17:10,969
So I was using alternatives to make the sweets.

804
01:17:11,149 --> 01:17:13,389
So I was always creative with food.

805
01:17:13,489 --> 01:17:17,269
My mom would say that I can make something out of nothing.

806
01:17:19,329 --> 01:17:24,309
Not all the recipes, they turn out like perfect,

807
01:17:25,269 --> 01:17:30,629
but then I can always perfect them later and I post the ones that I really like.

808
01:17:30,629 --> 01:17:39,449
or for example when I did the beef hearts I just tried it live and I gave an honest opinion that

809
01:17:39,449 --> 01:17:46,609
it wasn't my favorite for example or like chicken hearts as well when I tried they were not my

810
01:17:46,609 --> 01:17:55,349
favorites but you can always experience the food like I am a person that I can never follow the

811
01:17:55,349 --> 01:18:03,609
recipe so if i don't film it i don't know what i put so normally i try always to film it it's not

812
01:18:03,609 --> 01:18:12,069
the easiest way to make something and film it at the same time but i enjoy doing it and if you need

813
01:18:12,069 --> 01:18:19,449
any inspiration you can definitely find some recipes on my instagram or my youtube channel as

814
01:18:19,449 --> 01:18:27,689
well. Amazing. I think the word of the day to pass on to listeners is just experiments and include

815
01:18:27,689 --> 01:18:32,249
these things that you've been told your whole life that were so bad for you, because more and

816
01:18:32,249 --> 01:18:36,909
more people are finding out that the exact opposite of what we were always told is the truth is

817
01:18:36,909 --> 01:18:42,969
actually the best we can do. And carnivore is the ultimate example of that. All these other cool

818
01:18:42,969 --> 01:18:47,849
solutions like the red light therapy, the tallow over the makeup, all of these things are going to

819
01:18:47,849 --> 01:18:52,429
help people feel better out there so it's super exciting to be in this battle trying to get more

820
01:18:52,429 --> 01:18:56,369
truth out there in front of people laura thank you so much for coming to join me today i really

821
01:18:56,369 --> 01:19:04,749
really appreciate your time thank you so much it was a pleasure and uh yeah hopefully somebody who

822
01:19:04,749 --> 01:19:13,449
needed to hear this message message will hear it and i guess we can just change the world by

823
01:19:13,449 --> 01:19:20,029
sharing our own stories and a lot of people they're saying oh carn was so bad but if people

824
01:19:20,029 --> 01:19:28,769
get out of the medication most of them they lose a lot of weight uh a lot of them they get out of

825
01:19:28,769 --> 01:19:39,909
depression like is it not working even the funny fact i will tell you uh recently i went to the

826
01:19:39,909 --> 01:19:46,369
cardiologist because I was curious to see what is happening with my heart after two years I was

827
01:19:46,369 --> 01:19:55,149
eating mostly red meat right so I did all the blood tests I still need to post them and I did

828
01:19:55,149 --> 01:20:05,809
all the tests at the cardiologist so he said your heart works perfectly your arteries are all working

829
01:20:05,809 --> 01:20:14,909
perfectly and I said oh that's good to know I'm eating a lot of red meat oh but you know you

830
01:20:14,909 --> 01:20:20,269
shouldn't be eating more than twice a week and but he just said that my heart is perfect

831
01:20:20,269 --> 01:20:26,509
I didn't say that I'm carnival because probably he would have had a heart attack by that time

832
01:20:26,509 --> 01:20:35,649
uh but yeah how how like i was kind of just laughing inside of me and thinking you just

833
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said me like i'm 100 healthy but now you are saying that i can't be eating red meat because

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it's bad for me yeah they're so programmed to just you know hear these healthy things and say

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and just like they short circuit about it because they were taught by their medical school to not

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use those holistic solutions because they don't don't sell pills sadly you know they're they've

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been turned into drug pushers and sales people so and i know there's a lot of good ones out there

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who hopefully there's some hearing this today and they they are figuring out that they're part of

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this you know system that was never designed to heal people and it's huge for those people to

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figure this out and start turning the tide. Like I know your, your sister's nutritionist who is

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starting to figure this out and share it with the people. We need more people who have these

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authority titles because a lot of the world will never come and listen to my dumb little podcast

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or find your Instagram. They're just going to continue finding what they believe to be the

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experts. And more often than not just be led into things that destroy their bodies. So continuing to

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push the message out there, helping more people find the way and people like you're doing that.

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So thank you so much for your time and continue doing what you're doing because you're making a

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huge change out there and the world needs more of that. So thank you so much. Thank you.