1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,760 Imagine this, it's the late 1800s, it's France and two brilliant minds are locked in a battle 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:17,720 that could redefine how we fight illness. One says germs are the enemy, invading armies that 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:25,380 must be destroyed and the other counters no it's the battlefield itself. Your body's inner world, 4 00:00:25,380 --> 00:00:31,900 that's what decides the war. Now fast forward all the way to today and this debate is hotter than 5 00:00:31,900 --> 00:00:40,520 ever, especially after pandemics and rising chronic disease. What if the way we've been 6 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:46,520 chasing viruses and bacteria is only half the story? What if nurturing your body's terrain 7 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:53,680 could prevent sickness altogether? Well welcome to the Jake Woodhouse podcast, I'm Jake. I dive 8 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,360 into ideas that shape the world all around me. I want to know what's important to me and then the 9 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:06,620 decision-making I can make as a result. Now as an investor I'm always investing in three key areas 10 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:12,900 humanistic, intellectual and financial capital. Today's episode and in particular as a homeschooling 11 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:18,380 dad is going to highlight a key debate and how we might invest in our health and our children's 12 00:01:18,380 --> 00:01:23,980 health. So a topic that broadly is covered by both humanistic and intellectual capital. 13 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:29,180 Now, like many of you, I'm always questioning, how does the world work? I love to be curious. 14 00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:35,180 And what a confusing world we have today. I'm going to dedicate this episode to my wife Loz, 15 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:40,060 who mentioned this topic a week or so ago. And I was just like, what are you talking about? 16 00:01:40,780 --> 00:01:45,260 And in I dove. And it's quite incredible what you can find out in a fairly short space of time. 17 00:01:45,260 --> 00:01:51,940 So in an investor's lingo, where is the signal in all the noise? 18 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:54,260 So what is it I'm talking about? 19 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:59,480 Well, we're going to unpack germ theory versus terrain theory. 20 00:01:59,980 --> 00:02:03,020 It's an epic clash of ideas on why we get sick. 21 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:07,660 We'll cover the history, the key players, their strongest arguments, some juicy quotes, 22 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:12,600 some hard data, and most importantly, how this all plays out in daily life. 23 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,060 Now, whether you're aiming for optimal health and vitality, or you're just trying to teach 24 00:02:17,060 --> 00:02:22,500 your kids about what's best for them, this topic, and it has for me already, could totally 25 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:25,100 change how you approach healthcare. 26 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:30,780 Indeed, it's amazing to me that I'm only just digging into the details now. 27 00:02:30,780 --> 00:02:35,440 So stick around, and by the end, you'll have tools to make smarter choices for you and 28 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,440 your family. 29 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Now, as we run through this, if you have any questions, then please do reach out hi at 30 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,680 jakewoodhouse.io is my email. And I'd love to know, like, what's more important in your eyes? 31 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,320 Is it the germ theory or is it the terrain theory? Now, I always encourage people, if you're 32 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,480 listening on podcast player somewhere, switch over to something like Fountain. So a Bitcoin and NOSTA 33 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,940 focused podcast player and hit me up with a boost or a comment on that platform. Or equally, and my 34 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:09,560 favorite, get yourself a NOSTA account, an mpub and an nsec, decentralized communication protocol. 35 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:17,160 I love it. Fire off some zaps, I'll send them straight back. So let's jump in. Let's set the 36 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:23,200 stage. And it's always fun to dive into a bit of history. But this isn't some like really boring, 37 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:29,700 dusty textbook tale. It's full of a few twists and turns, some drama, rivalry, politics, 38 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:36,380 and paradigm shifts. And it's still amazingly, it's still incredibly relevant today. 39 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:42,760 far more so than probably what it should be. So our story kicks off in the mid 19th century, 40 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,600 so around 1850s, and we're in France. At the time, there were cholera outbreaks, 41 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:54,680 poor sanitation, and there was a scientific revolution underway. And enter a man named 42 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Louis Pasteur. He is the grandfather, the grandfather of germ theory. So born in 1820, 43 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:10,180 born in 1822. It says, sorry, his title, so to speak. So, Paster was a chemist and biologist 44 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:17,880 who proved that microorganisms caused fermentation and spoilage. He developed pasteurization, 45 00:04:18,540 --> 00:04:26,540 so heating liquids like milk to kill bacteria, and pioneered vaccines for rabies and anthrax. 46 00:04:26,540 --> 00:04:33,640 Now his big idea, diseases are caused by specific germs invading the body from outside. 47 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:35,420 This is revolutionary. 48 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:39,180 No more blaming of the bad air or humors. 49 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:43,120 Now it was possible to target the culprits. 50 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,260 Now just to spend a moment here, so bad air, this is something called miasma theory. 51 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,440 And so before germ theory, many people believed diseases were caused by miasma. 52 00:04:53,440 --> 00:05:00,120 So foul or polluted air emanating from rotting matter, swamps or unsanitary conditions. 53 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:06,940 The idea dating back to as old as ancient Greece persisted all the way through to the 1800s 54 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:12,140 held that inhaling these noxious vapors caused illness like cholera or the plague. 55 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,620 Humors, again rooted in ancient Greek medicine. 56 00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:18,980 So this is Hippocrates and Galen. 57 00:05:18,980 --> 00:05:26,060 the humoral theory claim health depended on balancing four bodily fluids blood phlegm yellow 58 00:05:26,060 --> 00:05:32,280 bile and black bile imbalances caused by diet environment or emotions were thought to trigger 59 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:38,000 disease i mentioned that because obviously setting the scene as to like what was common at the time 60 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,700 or what was thought of as like perceived wisdom it obviously changes through history right try and 61 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:45,340 put yourself back in those shoes. 62 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:50,340 So humours, imbalances caused by diet, environment, 63 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,000 or emotions were thought to trigger disease. 64 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:58,380 But, and this is where this starts to get a bit spicy, 65 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Pasteur was not the only person alone in the lab. 66 00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:05,360 He had a contemporary and a rival, Antoine Béchamp. 67 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:09,040 So Béchamp was born in 1816, lived in 1908. 68 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,960 He was a French chemist and biologist. 69 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:13,400 And he proposed something radically different. 70 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:21,060 terrain theory. Bichamp argued that microbes aren't fixed enemies, they're pleomorphic, 71 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:27,660 meaning they change form based on the environment. He discovered tiny particles he called microzymes 72 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:33,640 or microzymas, I might be saying that incorrectly, in cells, which could evolve into bacteria or 73 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:40,540 viruses if the body's terrain, i.e. its internal balance of pH, nutrition and toxicity, wasn't 74 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:47,820 aligned. Now he discovered this using high-powered microscopes and was examining living tissues, 75 00:06:47,820 --> 00:06:54,940 blood and decomposing matter. Now in his studies of chalk from geopolitical deposits, 76 00:06:54,940 --> 00:07:00,780 sorry from geological deposits and living organisms, he observed minute granular particles 77 00:07:00,780 --> 00:07:07,260 that appeared to be alive even in ancient fossils. Now he called these things microzymos 78 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:14,340 from the Greek small life. These particles, they were distinct from known bacteria as they seemed 79 00:07:14,340 --> 00:07:19,180 to persist across various conditions and transform based on their environment. 80 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Béchamp, he wrote a book, The Blood and Its Third Element in 1869, the quote, 81 00:07:26,020 --> 00:07:35,220 microzymas are the organized ferments, the primordial elements of all organized matter. 82 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:42,880 interesting right and just to obviously highlight there a certain type of microscopic lens just 83 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:48,660 didn't exist before this point and hence it was possible to actually discover these things 84 00:07:48,660 --> 00:07:54,820 so pleomorphism suggests microbes are dynamic adapting to the body's condition and may not 85 00:07:54,820 --> 00:08:02,520 always be harmful huh that's very different isn't it disease bachamp said starts from within 86 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:09,020 not from an external attack. So supporting Béchamp was Claude Bernard, born in 1813, 87 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:17,700 died 1878. He was a physiologist who emphasized on the internal milleo, i.e. the body's fluid 88 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:25,240 environment. Bernard's work on homeostasis, aka the body's self-regulation, laid the groundwork 89 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,560 for viewing health as balance, not warfare. Now this timeline, you can feel these characters, 90 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,960 you know they've got very different opinions it really heats up in the 1860s through to the 1880s 91 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,920 Pasteur and Beauchamp they clashed publicly having arguments and Pasteur backed by the 92 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:46,400 French Academy of Sciences ran experiments showing germs cause disease like injecting 93 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,840 healthy animals with pathogens to make them sick Beauchamp countered with studies on silkworms 94 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:57,360 claiming diseased terrain allowed microbes to thrive so that they're obviously a bit of a 95 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:03,120 tit for tat right so what is what which one is going to win here now politics played a role 96 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:10,000 pasteur's ideas aligned with emerging industries while buchamps were harder to monetize interesting 97 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:16,160 this sounds slightly familiar to a recent scenario i found myself in we will get on to that later 98 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:35,212 so in 1876 a man named robert kosh a german physician born 1843 died 1910 He entered into the fray on Pasteur side and Koch postulates four criteria to prove a microbe causes a disease solidified germ theory 99 00:09:35,932 --> 00:09:39,232 So Koch and Pasteur, they jumped into bed together. 100 00:09:39,732 --> 00:09:40,712 A big old hoo-ha. 101 00:09:41,212 --> 00:09:44,612 So four rules to prove a microbe causes disease. 102 00:09:44,752 --> 00:09:45,892 This is Koch's postulates. 103 00:09:45,892 --> 00:09:53,012 find it in all sick cases not healthy ones isolated in a lab infect a healthy animal to 104 00:09:53,012 --> 00:10:00,872 recreate the disease then re-isolate the same microbe so he did some experiments on anthrax 105 00:10:00,872 --> 00:10:07,372 and tuberculosis that absolutely nailed it through this process so 100% of infected animals got sick 106 00:10:07,372 --> 00:10:15,632 zero controls did not and his quote the bacillus is the cause and in this case bacillus anthracis 107 00:10:15,632 --> 00:10:22,272 is what's being referred to so it's the anthrax causing bacteria it led to vaccines clean water 108 00:10:22,912 --> 00:10:28,672 that they managed to slash cholera deaths by 50 percent kosh he identified bacteria for anthrax 109 00:10:28,672 --> 00:10:37,392 tuberculosis and cholera and in 1905 he earned a noble peace prize or a nobel prize so by the 1890s 110 00:10:37,392 --> 00:10:42,832 like germ theory just absolutely dominated it cleaned up basically and and it's unsurprising 111 00:10:42,832 --> 00:10:46,672 when you mentioned that incentive earlier as to like who they might align with in terms of how to 112 00:10:46,672 --> 00:10:54,272 monetize etc uh we'll dig into that a little later but so here is the big plot twist though on his 113 00:10:54,272 --> 00:11:02,592 deathbed in 1895 pastor reportedly said bernard was right the microbe is nothing the terrain is 114 00:11:02,592 --> 00:11:07,392 everything pastor is just admitting that you know on his deathbed what are the things you wish he 115 00:11:07,392 --> 00:11:11,632 did in your life you know what this guy i've been up against my whole career he was actually right 116 00:11:11,632 --> 00:11:18,312 and it suggests of course that Pasteur saw the bigger picture than just focusing on the germ 117 00:11:18,312 --> 00:11:23,912 now is this a genuine admission or just a spicy rumor like we'll never I'll never know right I 118 00:11:23,912 --> 00:11:29,372 can't go and ask either of these dead men what is true but it spices things up a bit right so 119 00:11:29,372 --> 00:11:34,812 historians of course they still debate this it fuels terrain theory advocates to this day 120 00:11:34,812 --> 00:11:41,492 in spite of germ theory and it's still true now it's true in the late 1800s today germ theory is 121 00:11:41,492 --> 00:11:44,192 is the hands down winner. 122 00:11:44,372 --> 00:11:45,932 I don't honestly know many people 123 00:11:45,932 --> 00:11:46,792 that have even talked to me 124 00:11:46,792 --> 00:11:47,912 about terrain theory before. 125 00:11:48,732 --> 00:11:51,652 Now, how did this really bed in, so to speak? 126 00:11:51,732 --> 00:11:54,352 So in 1910, the Flexner Report, 127 00:11:54,572 --> 00:11:56,112 which some of you may have heard of this before, 128 00:11:56,232 --> 00:11:58,332 it was commissioned by Andrew Carnegie 129 00:11:58,332 --> 00:12:01,112 and strongly influenced by John D. Rockefeller. 130 00:12:01,112 --> 00:12:03,312 It standardized US medical education 131 00:12:03,312 --> 00:12:04,792 around germ theory. 132 00:12:05,612 --> 00:12:06,812 And what this meant is they shut down 133 00:12:06,812 --> 00:12:09,052 holistic schools teaching nutrition and homeopathy, 134 00:12:09,652 --> 00:12:11,412 paving the way for pharmaceutical dominance. 135 00:12:11,492 --> 00:12:17,532 this is not an episode about the flexner report or the kind of history of all of this per se but 136 00:12:17,532 --> 00:12:23,552 um go and have a listen to my episode with sarah valentini an absolutely awesome homeopath that we 137 00:12:23,552 --> 00:12:28,272 use and she talks a little about this in our episode and i really enjoyed learning like where 138 00:12:28,272 --> 00:12:33,812 did homeopathics come from and why isn't it more relevant today than perhaps could be when we found 139 00:12:33,812 --> 00:12:39,292 it to be so valuable now going all the way back you know early 1900s rockefeller's got this huge 140 00:12:39,292 --> 00:12:44,092 oil empire and he's trying to figure out like how do i how do i create more products and that's where 141 00:12:44,092 --> 00:12:48,452 synthetic drugs come in right so they're sidelining natural terrain approaches that couldn't be 142 00:12:48,452 --> 00:12:56,332 patented huh so in the 20th century germ theory has absolutely hammered it and it's true you know 143 00:12:56,332 --> 00:13:03,372 antibiotics like penicillin discovered in 1928 have had a huge impact and supposedly save millions 144 00:13:03,372 --> 00:13:11,392 vaccines eradicated smallpox in 1980 or so they claim and terrain theory just kind of lingered in 145 00:13:11,392 --> 00:13:15,992 alternative circles and what's really brought this back up to two major things of the last like 50 146 00:13:15,992 --> 00:13:21,992 years like AIDS really fuels conversation around terrain theory and more recently the COVID-19 147 00:13:21,992 --> 00:13:27,672 scamdemic as I would call it and you know quite rightly so these things have come into question 148 00:13:27,672 --> 00:13:31,732 because when you look back through the history like the guys that are talking about terrain theory 149 00:13:31,732 --> 00:13:33,912 almost 200 years ago now, 150 00:13:34,112 --> 00:13:35,472 we're simply pointing out that 151 00:13:35,472 --> 00:13:38,472 there's a reason, there must be some reason 152 00:13:38,472 --> 00:13:40,132 why not everyone catches a disease. 153 00:13:40,552 --> 00:13:41,232 What can it be? 154 00:13:42,072 --> 00:13:43,812 So, and again, we'll discuss this 155 00:13:43,812 --> 00:13:44,872 as we go through the episode. 156 00:13:45,252 --> 00:13:47,192 So to spend a bit of time on the modern day, 157 00:13:48,272 --> 00:13:50,072 some characters that my wife mentioned, 158 00:13:50,252 --> 00:13:51,252 and again, shout out to Lozzie, 159 00:13:51,252 --> 00:13:55,872 she's awesome at researching the health space 160 00:13:55,872 --> 00:14:00,092 and creating a, what's the right way of saying this? 161 00:14:01,732 --> 00:14:08,972 Oh, just yeah, she's revolutionized how I think about health and what I eat and equally what kids eat and the medications that we take and all the rest of it. 162 00:14:09,132 --> 00:14:09,892 So shout out to her. 163 00:14:10,132 --> 00:14:13,612 This episode is dedicated to you, Lossie, if you ever, ever listen to it. 164 00:14:13,992 --> 00:14:16,152 So the first guy, Dr. Tom Cowan. 165 00:14:16,812 --> 00:14:22,252 Now, he's been a longtime advocate for terrain theory and uses his work to kind of dismantle germ theory. 166 00:14:22,512 --> 00:14:31,432 He frames germ theory as part of a broader, quote, make-believe science disconnected from observable reality. 167 00:14:31,732 --> 00:14:42,652 Cowan challenges foundational pillars of mainstream medicine, particularly virology and genetics, whilst promoting a holistic and environment driven model of health. 168 00:14:43,372 --> 00:14:48,572 So what is his core critique? Well, he's like, he calls it flaws in virology. 169 00:14:48,572 --> 00:15:02,152 But to explain that a little more, so unstable paradigms built on manipulated methodologies like cell cultures and antibody testing that misrepresent how illness occurs. 170 00:15:02,152 --> 00:15:18,272 He argues that viruses aren't proven causative agents, but artifacts of poor science, echoing Béchamp's pleomorphism from 200 years ago, where microbes are symptoms of internal imbalance, not invaders. 171 00:15:18,572 --> 00:15:29,772 Now, of course, it's tied to terrain. It's like disease stems from the body's terrain, not external contagion, i.e. the toxicity, the nutrition, the emotional state of a person. 172 00:15:30,892 --> 00:15:35,152 Now, he's got a podcast. I was able to find a quote from his podcast. 173 00:15:35,392 --> 00:15:43,032 What if the immune system and antibodies are misunderstood concepts? Illness isn't about fighting germs. It's about the body's response to imbalance. 174 00:15:43,032 --> 00:15:51,132 interesting so in terms of genetics and heritability he he really flips this idea of 175 00:15:51,132 --> 00:15:56,952 in terms of nature versus nurture in the debate on he just he's rejecting genetic determinism 176 00:15:56,952 --> 00:16:04,872 i.e cancer genes and that he just calls them fatalistic myths instead heredity is environmental 177 00:16:04,872 --> 00:16:12,032 and educational now passed down lifestyles shape terrain more than dna this empowers personal 178 00:16:12,032 --> 00:16:16,432 responsibility of course that's something that draws me into this this conversation like people 179 00:16:16,432 --> 00:16:22,592 taking responsibility for their choices for their body for their outcomes their results so 180 00:16:23,232 --> 00:16:29,552 carwin would argue that you detach from outcomes and seek truth in health he's got a book cancer 181 00:16:29,552 --> 00:16:36,352 and the new biology of water and in that he even extends this to oncology in general so cancer 182 00:16:36,352 --> 00:16:41,952 isn't a genetic or germ-driven war but a terrain collapse from dehydrated polluted cells 183 00:16:42,032 --> 00:16:46,112 treatable via hydration, minerals and lifestyle, not chemo. 184 00:16:47,312 --> 00:16:51,352 Cowan says germ theory misses why some resist infection. 185 00:16:52,152 --> 00:16:54,312 Like, why don't some people get sick and others do? 186 00:16:54,832 --> 00:16:56,632 I.e. the terrain matters. 187 00:16:57,512 --> 00:17:00,712 Now, the second character from a more modern era, Dr. 188 00:17:01,032 --> 00:17:05,152 Andrew Kaufman, in this case, he's a forensic psychiatrist 189 00:17:05,672 --> 00:17:08,392 and is very much a health skeptic. 190 00:17:08,392 --> 00:17:11,992 So when I was reading about him, he was described as a fire 191 00:17:11,992 --> 00:17:17,352 brand against germ theory. So he insists that it's basically it's a manufactured narrative. 192 00:17:17,932 --> 00:17:24,532 It props up big pharma and is used for control. Hmm. Well, I'm interested in anyone that's putting 193 00:17:24,532 --> 00:17:29,032 those things together. Like that's not the future I want to live in, not the future of my kids to 194 00:17:29,032 --> 00:17:35,732 live in, like more control and a lack of bodily autonomy. So he claims that these viruses don't 195 00:17:35,732 --> 00:17:42,092 even exist. Contagion is a myth and that health is 100% terrain dependent, shaped by toxins, 196 00:17:42,392 --> 00:17:49,932 not transmission. So what's his core critique of germ theory? Well, he repeatedly debunks 197 00:17:49,932 --> 00:17:57,432 virology as a pseudoscience built on dead cells and manipulated microscopy. He exposes how research 198 00:17:57,432 --> 00:18:05,392 uses stained, lifeless samples, creating artifacts mistaken for viruses. And he's influenced by a 199 00:18:05,392 --> 00:18:11,392 I came across as well during research with someone called Harold Hillman and he posed the 47 unanswered 200 00:18:11,392 --> 00:18:19,152 questions to prove biology's house of cards. He was a British guy born 1936 died 2016 a neurobiologist 201 00:18:19,152 --> 00:18:25,792 and professor at the University of Surrey and he was a he was radically critical of cell biology 202 00:18:26,432 --> 00:18:31,552 and argued that much of modern biology relies on artifacts from preparation techniques. 203 00:18:31,552 --> 00:18:36,312 As you go down these rabbit holes, why, who, what's the incentive? 204 00:18:36,312 --> 00:18:38,512 And it's very clear to me quite quickly. 205 00:18:38,512 --> 00:18:49,464 It like germ theory lots of incentive to paint and make money terrain theory individual accountability i know which side i leaning towards right you can make your own mind up but 206 00:18:50,264 --> 00:18:55,864 um if the foundation of modern biology is built on research using dead cells 207 00:18:55,864 --> 00:19:01,464 then the conclusions we've been taught are deeply flawed that seems like a reasonable point doesn't 208 00:19:01,464 --> 00:19:06,664 it it's like what are you putting under your microscope mate and and these these lab testing 209 00:19:06,664 --> 00:19:10,904 scenario is supposedly proving the theory that you're putting forward it's like how are you 210 00:19:10,904 --> 00:19:18,984 actually doing that and i i love these debates right let's get to the truth if we can so kaufman 211 00:19:18,984 --> 00:19:24,424 argues no natural virus has ever been isolated making bioweapons or outbreaks like totally 212 00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:31,544 impossible now there's terrain emphasis like disease for example autism or cancer is environmental 213 00:19:31,544 --> 00:19:34,724 poisoning, not genetic or infectious. 214 00:19:36,524 --> 00:19:40,484 Quote, autism is not genetic conditions like autism and even cancer are the 215 00:19:40,484 --> 00:19:42,764 result of environmental factors and toxins. 216 00:19:43,644 --> 00:19:44,164 Interesting. 217 00:19:44,164 --> 00:19:48,484 So obviously prevention is much more important from the perspective of both 218 00:19:48,484 --> 00:19:52,604 Cowan and Kaufman, and they really focus on things like detox and nutrition. 219 00:19:54,164 --> 00:19:57,364 You know, how patentable is a detox? 220 00:19:57,364 --> 00:20:00,824 Like, mate, go on a water fast for five days, see how you feel. 221 00:20:01,544 --> 00:20:07,644 Now, leaving behind now the history lesson and some of these characters, I want to spend 222 00:20:07,644 --> 00:20:12,324 a bit of time breaking down like, okay, what are these two camps really talking about? 223 00:20:12,324 --> 00:20:14,984 And think of this as like the elevator pitch for each one. 224 00:20:14,984 --> 00:20:19,004 So, to start with germ theory, there's basically three main points, like pathogens are the 225 00:20:19,004 --> 00:20:24,144 primary cause, transmission is key, and interventions target the germs. 226 00:20:24,144 --> 00:20:28,584 So firstly, just to talk through pathogens as the primary cause. 227 00:20:28,584 --> 00:20:34,104 bacteria viruses or fungi invade and multiply leading to symptoms. 228 00:20:34,104 --> 00:20:37,944 Koch's work showed microbacterium tuberculosis 229 00:20:37,944 --> 00:20:42,664 causes TB in over 90 percent of cases without prior exposure. 230 00:20:42,664 --> 00:20:47,224 Okay so some proof right. Transmission is key. So diseases are spread via 231 00:20:47,224 --> 00:20:51,944 contact air or vectors. Pasteur quote I have demonstrated 232 00:20:51,944 --> 00:20:55,784 experimentally that the virus of rabies can be transmitted 233 00:20:55,784 --> 00:21:01,064 transmitted from one animal to another and admittedly this led to hygiene revolutions 234 00:21:01,624 --> 00:21:08,664 and people washing their hands reduced maternal mortality by 90 percent in one particular case 235 00:21:08,664 --> 00:21:12,344 like okay people didn't use to wash their hands maybe there may be some merit to that right 236 00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:18,344 um and so so pathogens are the primary cause transmission is key and finally interventions 237 00:21:18,344 --> 00:21:24,984 target germs so what do i mean by that well vaccines specifically vaccines train immunity 238 00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:32,504 against specific invaders. Antibiotics kill bacteria. And the evidence for this would be, 239 00:21:32,724 --> 00:21:37,724 I mean, the World Health Organization data, how much do you trust that after the last five years 240 00:21:37,724 --> 00:21:44,944 experience? But global vaccination campaigns dropped polio cases from 350,000 in 1988 to 22 241 00:21:44,944 --> 00:21:53,244 in 2017. And it's funny that the Provax camp almost always cites polio as the reason that 242 00:21:53,244 --> 00:21:58,444 vaccines are good. Now, of course, if you question why a child needs to have 60 jabs before the age 243 00:21:58,444 --> 00:22:05,904 of 12, like polio is just one example. And that data sets from 1988 to 2017. Like what's the case 244 00:22:05,904 --> 00:22:11,144 today? And when my wife and I, for example, is researching that topic, there's not one study 245 00:22:11,144 --> 00:22:18,724 on a child with no jabs and a child with all the jabs. It doesn't exist. Every single vaccination 246 00:22:18,724 --> 00:22:20,764 for an infant gets tested independently, 247 00:22:21,024 --> 00:22:22,904 but without them being done 248 00:22:22,904 --> 00:22:24,284 in conjunction with all the other ones. 249 00:22:24,564 --> 00:22:27,424 Like, talk about, that doesn't make sense, right? 250 00:22:27,804 --> 00:22:30,304 How can you tell me that my child is guaranteed 251 00:22:30,304 --> 00:22:32,524 to be safe after all of those injections? 252 00:22:33,384 --> 00:22:35,424 And funny enough, no one has an answer to that. 253 00:22:36,164 --> 00:22:37,404 More on this in a second. 254 00:22:38,044 --> 00:22:39,404 And so to get back to terrain theory, 255 00:22:39,444 --> 00:22:40,464 what are their core arguments? 256 00:22:40,584 --> 00:22:41,764 Well, again, three main points. 257 00:22:41,764 --> 00:22:43,664 The body's environment dictates disease, 258 00:22:44,024 --> 00:22:45,444 focuses on holistic health, 259 00:22:45,784 --> 00:22:47,304 and prevention is done through lifestyle. 260 00:22:47,304 --> 00:22:53,124 so okay well that's very different right so in terms of the body's environment dictating disease 261 00:22:53,124 --> 00:22:59,644 so a healthy terrain so i mean balanced ph strong immunity low toxins prevents microbes from causing 262 00:22:59,644 --> 00:23:08,044 harm bachamps micro isms i'm sure i'm saying that wrong microzymas yeah that's better bachamps 263 00:23:08,044 --> 00:23:14,204 microzymas theory microbes are symptoms not causes they morph in response to imbalance 264 00:23:14,204 --> 00:23:21,084 interesting so point number two so focuses on holistic health disease thrives in bad soil poor 265 00:23:21,084 --> 00:23:27,924 diet stress pollution so bernard said the constancy of the internal environment is the condition for 266 00:23:27,924 --> 00:23:33,464 free and independent life now what data is that to back this up well studies on the microbiome 267 00:23:33,464 --> 00:23:39,024 show that bacteria imbalance like dysbiosis links to 70 to 80 percent of immune issues 268 00:23:39,024 --> 00:23:45,084 that's some research done by the nhi h point number three prevention through lifestyle so you 269 00:23:45,084 --> 00:23:51,104 build resilience with nutrition exercise and detox what evidence do we have this works well 2016 270 00:23:51,104 --> 00:23:56,524 study in the lancet found lifestyle factors aka diet and activity prevent 80 percent of chronic 271 00:23:56,524 --> 00:24:05,444 disease such as diabetes far more than vaccines alone now this is interesting right another data 272 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:10,804 point us chronic illness in kids jumped from one to two percent in the 1960s to 40 to 50 percent 273 00:24:10,804 --> 00:24:16,964 today now this correlates heavily with processed foods and environmental toxins not just germs 274 00:24:17,844 --> 00:24:24,164 well what's the truth like every story there's probably some middle ground there'll be a bit of 275 00:24:24,164 --> 00:24:28,804 truth in one side but a truth in the other probably but that's what we have to figure out and that's 276 00:24:28,804 --> 00:24:32,964 what i'm going to do for the rest of the episode so a lot of experts they'll say integrate both 277 00:24:32,964 --> 00:24:40,104 right so use antibiotics when needed um but prioritize terrain to to to avoid even being 278 00:24:40,104 --> 00:24:44,304 in a situation where you might need to use a kind of germ theory focused intervention 279 00:24:44,304 --> 00:24:48,824 now just to walk through like what do i think about this and what are some of the 280 00:24:48,824 --> 00:24:57,444 the things we can do so and to summarize how does this ancient debate hit home for us today 281 00:24:57,444 --> 00:25:05,504 especially in light of being a homeschooling dad like what do i want to teach my kids how do i 282 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:09,624 how do i have to think about looking after my kids to keep them as healthy as possible 283 00:25:09,624 --> 00:25:15,704 and as i did this research i just had so many questions about previous like the experience 284 00:25:15,704 --> 00:25:23,104 the last five years and the covid stuff just it was just wild now like and the questions this 285 00:25:23,104 --> 00:25:29,504 throws up a huge right so how how on earth did the COVID-19 and all those lockdown that crazies how 286 00:25:29,504 --> 00:25:35,044 did it actually happen um well in a sense it's obvious because it's a lot to do with incentive 287 00:25:35,044 --> 00:25:41,944 right but when you look at like the hard facts like who was dying now putting aside the fact that 288 00:25:41,944 --> 00:25:48,844 the the common cold in the data that was collected by the health services of most major countries 289 00:25:48,844 --> 00:25:53,344 common cold disappeared and suddenly there was lots of deaths from COVID-19. 290 00:25:54,044 --> 00:25:58,064 That statistic manipulation conversation aside, 291 00:25:58,264 --> 00:26:02,224 the people that died were A, over the age of 80, 292 00:26:02,824 --> 00:26:06,904 and they had a handful of comorbidities, like three or four comorbidities. 293 00:26:07,784 --> 00:26:13,664 So why in the hell was it the case that a vaccine was pushed as the only solution? 294 00:26:14,744 --> 00:26:17,664 And you take into account this whole camp of terrain theory. 295 00:26:17,664 --> 00:26:24,884 it's like well it's obvious right they were making money out of it and a better piece of advice would 296 00:26:24,884 --> 00:26:32,024 have been like just tell everyone to be healthy aka a terrain theory focus like sort your sort 297 00:26:32,024 --> 00:26:39,384 your sort your lifestyle out sort your your your diet out like do a detox these are far more 298 00:26:39,384 --> 00:26:44,104 effective ways of protecting yourself from anything that you might come across in your life 299 00:26:44,104 --> 00:26:46,444 And the implication obviously is money. 300 00:26:46,444 --> 00:26:59,444 So at the start of this episode, we touched on the fact that when this original germ versus terrain theory debate came up in the 1800s, one side, i.e. the germ theory side, was more easily monetized and the other wasn't. 301 00:27:00,024 --> 00:27:12,404 And so you wonder why today, 150 years later, you've got a government that is the apparatus of a massive industry that has self-regulated itself such that it doesn't get any vaccines. 302 00:27:12,404 --> 00:27:13,644 You can't sue them. 303 00:27:14,104 --> 00:27:35,024 Like, what is that? The government pays out if there's any kind of contraindication. Isn't that extraordinary? So, you know, like the very simple question, okay, there's a disease going around that's a threat to everyone. Is it to everyone? No, it's actually to a handful of people in their later life with comorbidities. Great. 304 00:27:35,024 --> 00:27:41,684 if it was a threat to anyone else what's the most easy entry-level protection for them oh well have 305 00:27:41,684 --> 00:27:45,264 a look at your diet have a look at your lifestyle make sure you're super healthy you'll probably be 306 00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:53,024 safe that doesn't sell right um now and the next thing here is it like really quite comes into 307 00:27:53,024 --> 00:27:59,004 question this whole idea of like informed consent and the the vaccine business is very clever in how 308 00:27:59,004 --> 00:28:13,136 it manipulates the scenario and claims that no one ever has a vaccine unless they have it with informed consent Now how does a three child give informed consent It can right So that already like a 309 00:28:13,136 --> 00:28:20,476 major falling apart of first principles thinking. But then also the very aggressive, like carrot 310 00:28:20,476 --> 00:28:26,156 versus stick approach that was used by governments in lockstep with vaccine businesses to say, 311 00:28:26,276 --> 00:28:30,176 you're not allowed to go and work unless you get this jab. You're not allowed to go to a cafe unless 312 00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:33,696 get this jab you're allowed to go to the sports game that you love unless you get this jab it's 313 00:28:33,696 --> 00:28:38,416 like it just it makes a complete mockery of informed consent like all these people apparently 314 00:28:38,416 --> 00:28:45,856 had informed consent but they couldn't get paid unless they did like again red flags right so 315 00:28:46,416 --> 00:28:52,496 i and and to reflect on myself here i didn't even know about terrain theory really until 10 days ago 316 00:28:52,496 --> 00:28:57,536 and doesn't it make a lot of sense like focus on yourself first make sure that you're doing as much 317 00:28:57,536 --> 00:29:03,696 as you can to be as fit as healthy as possible be balanced as was described as being important and 318 00:29:03,696 --> 00:29:08,656 and then you'll likely be totally fine from any disease well that's the best protection you could 319 00:29:08,656 --> 00:29:13,136 ever get but i guess the problem is is that people don't like taking responsibility for themselves 320 00:29:13,136 --> 00:29:18,656 you know they prefer to pop an asempic pill than get on a treadmill as an example they want big 321 00:29:18,656 --> 00:29:22,016 daddy government to tell them they're going to be safe the whole time it's like no no that's on you 322 00:29:22,016 --> 00:29:31,936 make. Again, difficult to patent motivation, that personal motivation. So where am I going with all 323 00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:38,176 this? So information doesn't travel through markets fairly. And I know that well from an investor 324 00:29:38,176 --> 00:29:42,976 perspective, and in particular, like the bet, if you want to call it anything else that I'm making 325 00:29:42,976 --> 00:29:47,376 on Bitcoin, a lot of people don't even know about Bitcoin, let alone why it's the best bet you can 326 00:29:47,376 --> 00:29:55,136 make. And so in this case, it's simple that the germ theory prevailed as a common wisdom, 327 00:29:55,136 --> 00:30:00,096 because the information about germ theory was better spread, more widely spread. Now, 328 00:30:00,096 --> 00:30:03,456 the incentive is clear, right? You spread this information and then you make money. 329 00:30:05,216 --> 00:30:09,536 But isn't that an interesting thing to come across, right? Now, one core problem I had with 330 00:30:09,536 --> 00:30:13,856 the COVID era was this idea of like public health policy is more important than individual choice. 331 00:30:13,856 --> 00:30:22,036 a classic ethical debate on the collective versus the individual but how convenient that the germ 332 00:30:22,036 --> 00:30:27,776 theory like camp is able to sit in this public health space and be like oh well we know everything 333 00:30:27,776 --> 00:30:32,516 because we've run all these tests and we've used this german guide kosh's four postulits from 150 334 00:30:32,516 --> 00:30:36,996 years ago to prove that we've you know isolated this disease and now we've recreated it and we can 335 00:30:36,996 --> 00:30:42,096 we can solve everyone's like terrifying future by just taking this little bit a little bit of 336 00:30:42,096 --> 00:30:47,076 medicine. And it's something I completely agree with, right? If I can't decide on what goes into 337 00:30:47,076 --> 00:30:53,176 my body every day, which is the ultimate property right, then what is freedom? I don't have a right. 338 00:30:53,836 --> 00:30:58,216 So is public health policy more important than individual choice? Well, that's already a great 339 00:30:58,216 --> 00:31:03,736 debate. But then you throw into the mix this whole concept of germ theory versus terrain theory, 340 00:31:03,736 --> 00:31:09,716 and you're like, huh, well, that throws up the conversation even more, right? Because maybe germ 341 00:31:09,716 --> 00:31:15,316 theory is not even correct and the optimal way of keeping a healthy society is focusing on terrain 342 00:31:15,316 --> 00:31:20,756 theory had terrain theory been taken seriously there'd be no need for a vaccine there'd be no 343 00:31:20,756 --> 00:31:26,276 need for lockdowns there wouldn't have been any disruption like why would you have done any of that 344 00:31:26,276 --> 00:31:32,276 to save a tiny portion of the population that also might just be better off with terrain theory as a 345 00:31:32,276 --> 00:31:38,116 as a way of looking at their health right 80 years old get outside eat a better diet stop taking that 346 00:31:38,116 --> 00:31:44,756 medication see what happens and it's just it's so convenient isn't it the collective is is guilt 347 00:31:44,756 --> 00:31:51,476 tripped by the people making money like you're being manipulated right and and this idea that 348 00:31:51,476 --> 00:31:56,036 ah you know if a car is faulty they've got to recall the car like i literally took my bmw into 349 00:31:56,036 --> 00:32:00,836 the into the workshop this week because they recalled it to replace a part if a vaccine 350 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:08,896 business gets caught creating a product that creates harm, it's the government that steps 351 00:32:08,896 --> 00:32:13,296 in and pays the bills. Well, I thought the government represented the people. So the 352 00:32:13,296 --> 00:32:18,776 taxpayer foots the bill. So you're socializing the losses. Extraordinary setup. And it's 353 00:32:18,776 --> 00:32:23,836 unbelievable to me that people actually kind of are okay with it. And so much of this stems 354 00:32:23,836 --> 00:32:28,196 all the way back to 100 years ago, and that Flexner report and the oil business getting 355 00:32:28,196 --> 00:32:33,236 involved in modern modern healthcare like you're digging stuff out of the ground and selling it's 356 00:32:33,236 --> 00:32:38,516 an energy product and they were looking for ways of like obviously you know creating more and that's 357 00:32:38,516 --> 00:32:44,596 where it ended up so interesting right oil is in most of these pharmaceutical products perhaps i'll 358 00:32:44,596 --> 00:32:47,876 go into more detail on the flex report in another episode because i think that'd be really interesting 359 00:32:47,876 --> 00:32:56,916 to learn more about um but if you cannot live by my body my choice then what do you have and so 360 00:32:56,916 --> 00:32:58,576 And again, more questions that came up for me. 361 00:32:58,616 --> 00:33:00,216 So first principles perspective. 362 00:33:00,356 --> 00:33:01,636 I always love thinking like this. 363 00:33:02,276 --> 00:33:04,316 You don't need any data in many ways. 364 00:33:04,776 --> 00:33:07,416 It's like, okay, so how is it the case? 365 00:33:08,496 --> 00:33:09,956 Well, ask this question first. 366 00:33:10,156 --> 00:33:11,776 How do I protect myself from sickness? 367 00:33:12,856 --> 00:33:16,236 And the germ theory camp and the terrain theory camp, 368 00:33:16,696 --> 00:33:19,716 it's quite clear to me which camp I would prefer to go down. 369 00:33:19,816 --> 00:33:20,336 It's like, well, hang on. 370 00:33:20,396 --> 00:33:23,496 So you just take accountability for your lifestyle, for your diet, 371 00:33:23,496 --> 00:33:26,716 and you want to try and have as healthy a body as possible. 372 00:33:26,916 --> 00:33:28,716 Those are all things I can work on. 373 00:33:29,076 --> 00:33:32,776 Whereas the germ theory is like, okay, well, I've got to try and isolate this germ somewhere. 374 00:33:33,316 --> 00:33:38,316 And I've then got to trust other people to have the expertise and the product to protect me from it. 375 00:33:38,916 --> 00:33:41,016 The sovereignty aspect of that, it's very clear. 376 00:33:41,136 --> 00:33:42,496 Terrain theory is the way that I would go. 377 00:33:43,076 --> 00:33:44,616 And the same applies with my kids. 378 00:33:45,576 --> 00:33:56,556 But what terrain theory so clearly highlights, which I think makes a complete mockery of the supposed COVID-19 pandemic and the reaction to it, 379 00:33:56,556 --> 00:34:00,336 was that if two people are exposed to the same bacteria, 380 00:34:00,896 --> 00:34:04,176 one gets sick and the other doesn't, why is that? 381 00:34:05,316 --> 00:34:06,556 Like seriously, why is that? 382 00:34:06,636 --> 00:34:08,536 Why can it be the case that, 383 00:34:08,636 --> 00:34:10,036 and even though I see this happening at the moment, 384 00:34:10,116 --> 00:34:13,396 I've got three children, one of them will get sick 385 00:34:13,396 --> 00:34:15,256 and then all three of them have been with each other 386 00:34:15,256 --> 00:34:18,416 the whole time in whatever different locations we've been to. 387 00:34:19,036 --> 00:34:19,996 It doesn't make sense. 388 00:34:20,096 --> 00:34:22,016 Why aren't all three of them sick at the same time? 389 00:34:22,856 --> 00:34:25,496 And it would make much more sense that one of them 390 00:34:25,496 --> 00:34:27,196 was out of sync somehow, 391 00:34:27,716 --> 00:34:28,816 maybe a little bit too tired 392 00:34:28,816 --> 00:34:30,676 or ate something that they didn't agree with. 393 00:34:31,176 --> 00:34:34,356 And they were not pumping on all cylinders 394 00:34:34,356 --> 00:34:36,916 and therefore developed some kind of illness. 395 00:34:38,556 --> 00:34:40,516 And so it's like, oh, all this stuff about, 396 00:34:41,056 --> 00:34:42,636 we're, I mean, here in Australia, 397 00:34:42,716 --> 00:34:45,056 they had a COVID zero policy. 398 00:34:46,016 --> 00:34:47,356 Like how insane was that? 399 00:34:47,936 --> 00:34:49,756 You've got to lock the whole place down 400 00:34:49,756 --> 00:34:51,536 so that not a single person 401 00:34:51,536 --> 00:34:53,196 gets this specific bacteria 402 00:34:53,196 --> 00:34:55,156 that you're supposedly going to save 403 00:34:55,156 --> 00:35:00,836 so many other people from. It doesn't make sense. And especially when it's like, how do you explain 404 00:35:00,836 --> 00:35:05,476 that two people might get this COVID bacteria and one of them be totally fine and the other one not? 405 00:35:06,436 --> 00:35:11,876 Like someone explain that to me, please. And to me, germ theory just completely falls on its 406 00:35:11,876 --> 00:35:20,196 falls in its ass at that point. Because you don't need all these products that the germ theory can 407 00:35:20,196 --> 00:35:25,076 can provide when terrain theories are much more accessible and obvious option to take. 408 00:35:25,876 --> 00:35:31,556 So it's pretty glaringly obvious in that sense. And how convenient that terrain theory is swept 409 00:35:31,556 --> 00:35:36,996 aside. Again, as I was researching this, you learn so much, don't you? But it occurred to me that this 410 00:35:36,996 --> 00:35:44,836 is very similar to what I've witnessed in the world of economics and the discussion of sound money 411 00:35:44,836 --> 00:35:52,036 versus inflationary monetary policy and the Austrian economics of the last 150 years that 412 00:35:52,036 --> 00:35:59,476 was essentially hidden from me by what is the Keynesian dominant economic model of today. 413 00:36:00,356 --> 00:36:02,916 And it's like, hang on, I didn't even know Austrian economics was an option. 414 00:36:03,796 --> 00:36:08,756 What do you mean there's a form of money called sound money that stores value over time? 415 00:36:08,756 --> 00:36:13,156 No, that's not right. No, money is something that the government controls via central bank and they 416 00:36:13,156 --> 00:36:19,076 They have an interest rate and they can increase or decrease the cost of lending, depending on how hot or cold the economy is. 417 00:36:19,076 --> 00:36:22,156 And they help to include unemployment in that. 418 00:36:22,616 --> 00:36:25,556 And it's basically it's all about the government controlling the money system. 419 00:36:26,436 --> 00:36:30,356 But that's that's a Keynesian philosophy of inflationary monetary policy. 420 00:36:30,576 --> 00:36:32,756 We didn't even realize that sound money existed as an option. 421 00:36:33,396 --> 00:36:34,276 And this is kind of the same. 422 00:36:34,396 --> 00:36:37,916 It's like, no, no, germ theory is like that's that's that's what life is all about. 423 00:36:38,036 --> 00:36:39,396 Germ theory, germ theory, germ theory. 424 00:36:39,536 --> 00:36:41,636 And then it's like, no, no, there's this thing called terrain theory. 425 00:36:41,636 --> 00:36:47,296 And, oh, actually underneath it, it's not aligned with the incentives of modern government and big business. 426 00:36:47,516 --> 00:36:52,036 And it's actually far more practical and requires people to take accountability for their own choices. 427 00:36:52,196 --> 00:36:54,576 And they can't just buy a solution from someone else. 428 00:36:55,416 --> 00:37:00,316 Oh, oh, that resonates really strongly and also gives me a lot of power. 429 00:37:00,416 --> 00:37:01,316 Like how empowering is that? 430 00:37:01,376 --> 00:37:07,916 When you go, okay, for me to be as fit and healthy as possible over the next 50 years of my life, I should just follow a terrain theory concept. 431 00:37:07,916 --> 00:37:09,936 It's like keep myself fit and healthy. 432 00:37:10,176 --> 00:37:11,356 I'll be totally fine. 433 00:37:11,636 --> 00:37:14,696 And I've got plenty of friends that are like, I haven't been sick for years. 434 00:37:14,696 --> 00:37:18,056 And they might be like pretty much carnivore. 435 00:37:18,056 --> 00:37:19,736 They might have given up drinking. 436 00:37:19,736 --> 00:37:23,676 They might be, whatever they might be doing, but they're certainly not munching down pharmaceutical 437 00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:28,076 pills following the status quo food pyramid that the government tells 438 00:37:28,128 --> 00:37:35,908 to abide by like it's just it's ridiculous right so a bit of reality check when the insiders for a 439 00:37:35,908 --> 00:37:41,188 particular theory like germ theory make money like what a surprise that that drives everything 440 00:37:41,188 --> 00:37:47,708 now i have to mention this whole concept of a government official standing up on a stage 441 00:37:47,708 --> 00:37:55,048 with a a government approved journalist interviewing them talking about trust the science 442 00:37:55,048 --> 00:38:03,728 trust the experts what an absolute load of bullshit so it really should be like trust the 443 00:38:03,728 --> 00:38:10,128 scientist that is paid by the company that vouches for germ theory that has robustly protected itself 444 00:38:10,128 --> 00:38:14,828 from any cost downside and is due to make gazillions of dollars from you accepting what 445 00:38:14,828 --> 00:38:21,808 you're telling them right and and so from a sovereignty perspective it's like no fuck off 446 00:38:21,808 --> 00:38:27,408 I'm not going to just blindly trust the experts and once again I've come across a subject where 447 00:38:27,408 --> 00:38:31,848 when I dig a little deeper and I hear about this thing called terrain theory it's got an 448 00:38:31,848 --> 00:38:36,488 extraordinarily powerful background to it that has been hidden from the average eye. 449 00:38:37,408 --> 00:38:43,048 Very convenient and it's the kind of thing oh Jake's such a conspiracy theory. Sure maybe in 450 00:38:43,048 --> 00:38:48,048 this case or just when I read this stuff and when I start thinking about it it's like I actually 451 00:38:48,048 --> 00:38:52,928 completely believe in terrain theory over germ theory how is it that i can go into a room be 452 00:38:52,928 --> 00:38:57,728 totally fine not be sick and then one of my family members falls sick from that same experience 453 00:38:57,728 --> 00:39:03,728 that just makes sense anyway i'm going to rely on myself to keep myself healthy going forwards i can 454 00:39:03,728 --> 00:39:09,888 detox i can follow a good diet i can exercise i can work on my lifestyle stress reduction even it 455 00:39:09,888 --> 00:39:17,888 is not anyone else's responsibility but mine mine and mine alone now another serious question that 456 00:39:17,888 --> 00:39:21,888 comes up through this and I think is very valid is this idea of you know using 457 00:39:21,888 --> 00:39:28,368 Kosha's four-point process and you know the end of this process means that they 458 00:39:28,368 --> 00:39:33,668 can then patent a medical product but like and this is where I think this 459 00:39:33,668 --> 00:39:37,448 really came up or flared up in COVID-19 it was very much squashed right you 460 00:39:37,448 --> 00:39:42,528 couldn't find this information what if they never isolated COVID-19 like 461 00:39:42,528 --> 00:39:47,348 seriously was that actually isolated properly and did they genuinely take it 462 00:39:47,348 --> 00:39:53,588 through Kosh's four steps? And if they didn't, and they were doing all those rapid antigen tests, 463 00:39:53,948 --> 00:40:00,148 what were they even testing for? Now, I'll never know the answer to that, to be honest, and very 464 00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:06,748 few of us ever will. But what a scam, you know, stoking up all that fear, flooding the media, 465 00:40:07,868 --> 00:40:13,368 like the eyeballs of the populace just got assaulted. I remember having one morning where 466 00:40:13,368 --> 00:40:21,308 I woke up and I was walking around the local area of Melbourne in full lockdown and people were wearing masks and there was get back signs on the local pharmacists. 467 00:40:21,308 --> 00:40:26,268 There was you can't come into the cafe unless you've been vaxxed at the local coffee shop. 468 00:40:26,628 --> 00:40:28,528 I couldn't go to work because I wasn't allowed. 469 00:40:29,248 --> 00:40:36,928 I pick up my phone and Telstra, the mobile operator, had a let's vax instead of the 4G, 5G sign in the top corner. 470 00:40:37,508 --> 00:40:43,008 You turn on the TV and the AFL will be put on and there'd be a beer advert that involved getting jabbed. 471 00:40:43,008 --> 00:40:46,348 There'll be some kind of government of Victoria advert about getting jabbed. 472 00:40:46,388 --> 00:40:50,448 And you get in the car and you switch the radio on and there'll be some kind of advert 473 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:52,288 about how you need to go and get your vaccine. 474 00:40:52,668 --> 00:40:58,428 It was just the most extraordinary marketing campaign ever conducted that was like, you 475 00:40:58,428 --> 00:40:59,068 need to be terrified. 476 00:40:59,188 --> 00:40:59,828 You need to be terrified. 477 00:40:59,948 --> 00:41:00,548 You need to be terrified. 478 00:41:00,668 --> 00:41:01,048 But guess what? 479 00:41:01,088 --> 00:41:01,828 We've got the solution. 480 00:41:03,208 --> 00:41:06,368 And not once is terrain theory mentioned, right? 481 00:41:06,388 --> 00:41:08,548 Not once is there the more balanced approach of that. 482 00:41:08,588 --> 00:41:11,208 Well, by the way, there's actually two theories at play here. 483 00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:12,188 One's germ theory. 484 00:41:12,188 --> 00:41:15,988 If you follow that, come this way, there might well be a medicine that you can take. 485 00:41:16,048 --> 00:41:21,368 But actually, you should also take note of terrain theory because in terrain theory, it's much more focused on individual choice. 486 00:41:21,968 --> 00:41:26,328 And actually having a safe and healthy body yourself is the best protection. 487 00:41:27,188 --> 00:41:30,268 That would be informed consent, right? 488 00:41:31,288 --> 00:41:33,248 So what a mockery that concept is. 489 00:41:34,368 --> 00:41:36,608 So I'm going to be much more wary of this going forwards. 490 00:41:36,888 --> 00:41:38,828 I really love this idea of terrain theory. 491 00:41:38,828 --> 00:41:47,208 um now i touched on this very briefly before but like the infant vaccine program today is very 492 00:41:47,208 --> 00:41:51,788 different to what it was when i was a child my wife and i came to the conclusion that we didn't 493 00:41:51,788 --> 00:42:03,432 want to follow what the australian government was recommending us and that taken us down a whole new journey and an unexpected route i do a whole other episode on that If people are interested please reach out and let me know 494 00:42:03,992 --> 00:42:06,072 But what is a more practical approach? 495 00:42:06,132 --> 00:42:10,432 The terrain theory approach where it's like, okay, make sure the baby has the safest possible 496 00:42:10,432 --> 00:42:14,992 pregnancy, make sure it's birthed naturally, make sure it's breastfed, make sure it has 497 00:42:14,992 --> 00:42:17,172 as much parent contact as possible. 498 00:42:17,532 --> 00:42:20,792 Make sure that the mother in particular is as healthy and as vital as it possibly can 499 00:42:20,792 --> 00:42:28,072 be and that's going to keep your baby safe and healthy terrain theory or the flip side of it 500 00:42:28,072 --> 00:42:34,632 germ theory you actually need to infect your child with tiny amounts of these different diseases of 501 00:42:34,632 --> 00:42:42,152 which no one has ever done a study of all of them given to a child together like come on and if it 502 00:42:42,152 --> 00:42:48,152 goes wrong it's not our fault you know like okay sorry and what you're saying is if i don't take 503 00:42:48,152 --> 00:42:54,632 that option i cannot access the publicly funded child care system yes that's correct and it's like 504 00:42:54,632 --> 00:43:00,872 whoa that is crazy right and here in australia there's a policy called no jab no play and you 505 00:43:00,872 --> 00:43:06,072 can't take your toddler to a child care class because you haven't done what the infant vaccine 506 00:43:06,072 --> 00:43:10,552 guideline was so lots of red flags there i'll do another episode on it some other time 507 00:43:10,552 --> 00:43:20,352 But as I said before, I'd much prefer to trust myself than a company or a politician to trust the experts. 508 00:43:21,832 --> 00:43:26,732 And so the final part of this, I want to just think through how this manifests in daily life. 509 00:43:27,392 --> 00:43:33,032 And I'll move on from the rant of the lack of informed consent. 510 00:43:33,752 --> 00:43:37,452 To me, this really just empowers critical thinking and is all about education. 511 00:43:37,452 --> 00:43:39,812 So how do you teach your kids about science? 512 00:43:39,812 --> 00:43:44,472 and is it the case of being like okay well guess what germs are bad and vaccines are good 513 00:43:44,472 --> 00:43:50,812 or one more than I was like okay well guys why do you think your sister got sick and you didn't 514 00:43:50,812 --> 00:43:55,932 and it's a great way to obviously weave in like why eating healthily is so important 515 00:43:55,932 --> 00:44:01,232 now in my case my kids aren't really quite old enough for this but could easily spark some 516 00:44:01,232 --> 00:44:04,412 experiments like you know for other homeschooling dads that might be out there 517 00:44:04,412 --> 00:44:08,652 track the family's health during a week of eating specifically healthy food 518 00:44:08,652 --> 00:44:10,852 versus a week of junk food. 519 00:44:12,492 --> 00:44:14,912 Show your kids the data, right? 520 00:44:15,452 --> 00:44:17,972 Why does a balanced diet have 30% fewer infections? 521 00:44:19,832 --> 00:44:22,112 And it's a good way to weave in a history lesson. 522 00:44:22,112 --> 00:44:25,212 Do you know who Louis Pasteur was or Béchamp? 523 00:44:25,772 --> 00:44:29,432 Which one is more relevant today, do you think? 524 00:44:29,572 --> 00:44:33,552 Can you debate germ theory versus terrain theory? 525 00:44:33,552 --> 00:44:37,972 again my kids a little too young for this but at some stage I'd for sure be weaving this in 526 00:44:37,972 --> 00:44:43,912 and this of course shifts health decisions it's like is getting the vaccine necessary yes or no 527 00:44:43,912 --> 00:44:48,512 and then like the further question is like how else can I protect myself or my kids 528 00:44:48,512 --> 00:44:54,732 from any supposed health threat and now germ theory is you know we do this every day we get 529 00:44:54,732 --> 00:45:00,912 in from wherever we've been and we wash our hands cool so I can use parts of the germ theory camp 530 00:45:00,912 --> 00:45:05,972 to improve my life. And the other side of that being terrain theory and nutrition. And every 531 00:45:05,972 --> 00:45:13,192 single day we are trying to eat as much as possible organic and, you know, organic and whole foods, 532 00:45:13,312 --> 00:45:19,972 right? Home cooked. So we eat lots of meat, we play outdoors, we have almost zero screen time, 533 00:45:20,072 --> 00:45:25,952 we homeschool, so there's as much primary caregiver contact as possible. And as I mentioned before, 534 00:45:25,952 --> 00:45:28,772 we haven't followed the infant vaccine guidelines of the government. 535 00:45:29,892 --> 00:45:33,972 So without realizing it, I was already advocating for terrain theory. 536 00:45:35,352 --> 00:45:36,712 I enjoy quotes. 537 00:45:36,952 --> 00:45:41,312 So Bichon, disease is the crisis of a purifying process. 538 00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:44,532 So when a kid gets a fever, it's not panic mode. 539 00:45:44,552 --> 00:45:46,092 It's actually the body detoxing. 540 00:45:46,652 --> 00:45:47,552 That's a cool concept, right? 541 00:45:47,572 --> 00:45:50,912 It's like when you're sick, it's actually really important to be sick 542 00:45:50,912 --> 00:45:52,452 because that's the healing process. 543 00:45:52,972 --> 00:45:54,912 So you don't want to just get rid of the sickness. 544 00:45:54,912 --> 00:45:58,392 You want the sickness to be there as long as it's necessary. 545 00:45:58,932 --> 00:46:02,032 And so inflammation is actually a good thing in that sense. 546 00:46:02,272 --> 00:46:03,212 You've got to let it play out. 547 00:46:03,292 --> 00:46:04,292 You've got to feel the pain. 548 00:46:05,372 --> 00:46:07,592 And it's all part of the healing process. 549 00:46:08,692 --> 00:46:15,292 So an observation I've definitely made, when I go to playgrounds and stuff with my kids, I've seen how much healthier they actually are. 550 00:46:16,072 --> 00:46:17,932 Now, some of you might be like, what else? 551 00:46:17,992 --> 00:46:18,532 You're biased. 552 00:46:18,892 --> 00:46:19,712 Get over yourself. 553 00:46:19,912 --> 00:46:21,012 Get over the fact you've got kids. 554 00:46:21,132 --> 00:46:21,712 Okay, maybe. 555 00:46:21,712 --> 00:46:36,576 but I go to a playground sometimes and I hear this hacking cough and I like ooh that is a heavily vaxxed child care child and i will i will actively try to make sure my kids don get too close to them 556 00:46:36,576 --> 00:46:41,936 because they get sick from them now that's terrain theory in a sense but also germ theory but 557 00:46:42,816 --> 00:46:51,296 um we are not putting our children into you know 10 12 small children class of kids that have all 558 00:46:51,296 --> 00:46:56,256 been pumped full of specific diseases that they might have never been anywhere near and we did 559 00:46:56,256 --> 00:47:01,136 that for a reason because we don't think it's good for holistic health and and it's interesting like 560 00:47:01,136 --> 00:47:06,976 i sometimes i see kids in the playground that are i can tell that they are you know fully up to date 561 00:47:06,976 --> 00:47:13,136 on their infant vaccine schedule and they're almost a bit like kind of glazed over they're just not 562 00:47:13,136 --> 00:47:18,256 oh they're just kind of sedated it's it's really intense um and for any parent that's chosen to go 563 00:47:18,256 --> 00:47:23,616 down that route you know i'm not saying you shouldn't do it um i just have major major 564 00:47:23,616 --> 00:47:29,616 question marks about it myself an interesting stat to keep in mind so the u.s health rankings 565 00:47:29,616 --> 00:47:38,016 dropped from sixth in 1990 to 27th in 2016 despite it being a germ focused spending program 566 00:47:39,216 --> 00:47:44,736 isn't that interesting so dropping from sixth in the world to 27th and they're focused all around 567 00:47:44,736 --> 00:47:52,096 germs. So why neglect terrain? Maybe that would help to turn that trend. What is the reward for 568 00:47:52,096 --> 00:47:57,176 taking terrain more seriously? Well, a resilient family, you know, my kids will get to self-learn, 569 00:47:57,176 --> 00:48:03,456 they won't be scared, I won't be scared, and I'll be just more aware of the propaganda, 570 00:48:03,896 --> 00:48:10,016 right? It's propaganda with an agenda. They make money from selling this stuff. And so, you know, 571 00:48:10,016 --> 00:48:16,456 when they say you're going to be happy and own nothing well sure bullshit or when they say you 572 00:48:16,456 --> 00:48:22,096 know you're going to have to eat the bugs like no no i'm not and unsurprisingly there are two sides 573 00:48:22,096 --> 00:48:25,596 to every coin and there's different ways of thinking there's different ways of turning up 574 00:48:25,596 --> 00:48:33,576 in the in the world every day final part of this episode and then we'll wrap it up is just trying 575 00:48:33,576 --> 00:48:40,196 of put into practice some of these concepts like how might you you do that um first and foremost 576 00:48:40,196 --> 00:48:45,916 like you know why homeschool etc this proves a point in a brilliant way which is that with ai 577 00:48:45,916 --> 00:48:53,576 i was able to research a discussion and a debate that i didn't know much about and come to a uh 578 00:48:53,576 --> 00:48:58,876 i what i think is a balanced approach in terms of the information provided but then i can make my 579 00:48:58,876 --> 00:49:04,496 own conclusions. And that to me is what education is. It's like collect the information around a 580 00:49:04,496 --> 00:49:10,216 problem that you've got and then make a decision for yourself. And I know that I can help my 581 00:49:10,216 --> 00:49:16,536 children learn to do that from home far better than any teacher ever will that I might outsource 582 00:49:16,536 --> 00:49:23,996 them to. And they can do that themselves using AI on a smartphone. So any information they might 583 00:49:23,996 --> 00:49:28,016 need is at their fingertips. So why would you send them off to a school for 10 hours a day 584 00:49:28,016 --> 00:49:30,316 to sit in a room that they don't want to be in, 585 00:49:30,596 --> 00:49:31,756 where they can't play ever, 586 00:49:32,336 --> 00:49:34,116 and learn a load of stuff 587 00:49:34,116 --> 00:49:36,396 that could be looked up on a phone in 20 seconds. 588 00:49:36,936 --> 00:49:39,196 But that is such a waste of their time. 589 00:49:39,576 --> 00:49:42,416 And if time is the most scarce asset of a human, 590 00:49:43,156 --> 00:49:46,456 then you are wasting your child's most important capital, 591 00:49:46,616 --> 00:49:47,296 which is their time. 592 00:49:48,896 --> 00:49:51,036 Okay, a daily life like tie-in. 593 00:49:51,976 --> 00:49:55,156 So imagine doctors thinking smelly air made you sick. 594 00:49:55,596 --> 00:49:57,956 Spark a discussion on how the science has evolved. 595 00:49:58,016 --> 00:50:06,456 miasma humors germ theory terrain theory and you could have an experiment so you know have kids 596 00:50:06,456 --> 00:50:13,236 track how fresh air i open windows versus nutrition affects their energy or colds and then 597 00:50:13,236 --> 00:50:19,236 blend in miasma ideas with terrain principles some data like studies show good ventilation 598 00:50:19,236 --> 00:50:25,156 reduces respiratory infections by 30 to 50 percent that's a big shift right just from ventilation 599 00:50:25,156 --> 00:50:33,416 and make this into a lesson so you know test ideas balance the idea of hygiene with holistic help 600 00:50:33,416 --> 00:50:40,936 um you know versus more of a germ stuff so another time so playomorphism 601 00:50:40,936 --> 00:50:48,076 is or can be used for a hands-on science lesson so teach kids that microbes aren't just bad guys 602 00:50:48,076 --> 00:50:53,556 right but part of a dynamic system so as an experiment you could grow your own yogurt 603 00:50:53,556 --> 00:51:07,260 right your yogurt cultures at home So safe bacteria that thrive in milk terrain to show how environment shapes microbes and weaving then things around diet so cutting out sugar um keeps the terrain 604 00:51:07,260 --> 00:51:13,740 strong so and good data point here so 2016 study found low sugar diets reduce candida overgrowth 605 00:51:13,740 --> 00:51:22,420 by 60 percent and that's just through tying um through having an understanding of playomorphism 606 00:51:22,420 --> 00:51:28,380 Cowan said illness is the body's attempt to restore balance not a battle against invaders 607 00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:34,940 really good theme there so what would you do were you going to empower your family to focus on 608 00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:40,620 nutrition and stress management and reduce fear of germs another daily lifetime that I want to add 609 00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:49,300 so Kosh we mentioned before his four postulates about isolating etc so it's a teachable moment 610 00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:54,580 it's a science project can we prove a germ causes a cold like why do some classmates get sick and 611 00:51:54,580 --> 00:52:02,180 others don't introduce a terrain theory so track family hand washing versus diet like during the 612 00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:09,700 flu season like what actually happens um you know have you managed to stay sick free through the 613 00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:15,540 flu season so kosh is inspirational quote that i have so the bacillus is the cause we mentioned 614 00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:22,900 this before versus cowan so illness is the body's response not a germs attack so which one's right 615 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:31,060 uh and tested on yourself um what i really liked about karen and his approach is this idea of 616 00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:37,060 teaching kids resilience rather than fear so using diet and detox as a way of creating a strong terrain 617 00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:42,660 to avoid this idea of like germ phobia everyone's so scared of germs like no don't you don't need 618 00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:47,780 be scared of anything just make sure that you and your body are fit and healthy um you know because 619 00:52:47,780 --> 00:52:52,980 there's no doubt like the trend for chronic disease is massive right like 40 to 50 of kids 620 00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:59,940 have chronic diseases and why well it's obviously a failure in terrain so modern toxins oh it's 621 00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:06,420 absolute madness to be honest and so we mentioned as well kauffman so his questioning of germ theory 622 00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:11,460 it it basically it collapses the medical industry overnight in his opinion like if there's no fear 623 00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:18,040 fear, then why would anyone take any of these medicines? And that's the nefarious side of 624 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:24,100 it, right? It's playing on fear. So for families out there and homeschools, we want to raise 625 00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:29,560 terrain-based children, unprocessed foods, critical thinkers, free of chronic disease. 626 00:53:30,220 --> 00:53:35,980 And it's clearly possible, right? And so what I learned out of this is terrain theory is 627 00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:44,120 a field of thought that makes a lot of sense that was hidden from me largely I think due to the lack 628 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:52,820 of information spread by the misalignment of the germ theory camp one must always try to be as 629 00:53:52,820 --> 00:53:59,460 balanced as possible so there's some truth in everything I truly believe that and therefore 630 00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:06,460 you know the the process here is like just make make up your own mind um i believe this to be true 631 00:54:06,460 --> 00:54:11,320 like the terrain is everything and it's probably how i was already living my life i just didn't 632 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,160 really have a phrase for it always ask questions like always we should not be afraid in the slightest 633 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,140 this this concept of like blindly trusting the experts it just doesn't make sense so i will never 634 00:54:21,140 --> 00:54:26,460 ever ever do that um we should of course incorporate experiments do it try them on ourselves 635 00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:32,700 think from first principles like the aim is to thrive and as a homeschooling parent say what is 636 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:38,400 the what is the optimal 25 year old look like how do we get them there so i hope by sharing all of 637 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,960 this i well first of all it was a selfish project in a sense i was able to completely upgrade my 638 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:52,280 knowledge uh first and foremost but it's it's it's it's helped me increase or or improve my 639 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,120 capital stock in terms of humanistic, 640 00:54:54,460 --> 00:54:56,040 aka health and intellectual capital. 641 00:54:56,260 --> 00:54:57,520 So I hope it has for you as well. 642 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,160 And as the audience members, as I said 643 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,380 at the very start, what do you think? 644 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,080 How has germ theory impacted you? How has terrain 645 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,940 theory impacted you? Do they make sense? 646 00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:08,700 Shoot me an email, hi at jwoodhouse.io. 647 00:55:09,580 --> 00:55:10,240 If you've made 648 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,300 it over onto NOSTA, then I would absolutely love to 649 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:14,260 get a zap from you and I'll zap you 650 00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:16,080 straight back. And 651 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,200 for any homeschoolers out there, what works 652 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,140 for you guys? And what am I missing? 653 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,200 That's a general question. I'd love to know more. 654 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,280 So thank you so much for tuning in today. 655 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,280 I really appreciate your time. 656 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,280 Reach out if I can help with anything at all.