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Welcome back to the
your host, Whitney Webb,
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author of the book The Bitcoin
Contributor, Hi Mark.
Hello Whitney. Thanks so
So while most people have
world's largest asset manager,
relatively few people are aware
pivotal role in the largest
wealth in the history of the
us, it seems that the final
process of theft is quickly
the media manufactured ignorance
crimes ever in this episode of
help dispel some of that
crisis. The unusual relationship
BlackRock began with Blackrock
and informal quote, unquote
Department. At the time,
role in the public sector for
taxpayers. As the asset manager
driver, generating profit for
over positive outcomes for the
when those concerns were proven
crash. That didn't stop the
Blackrock during the next major
downturn, while often framed as
of covid 19, as a global
really begun months earlier in
when the repo market went
Reserve System to intervene. The
the public know had been
Blackrock not long before the
That Blackrock design policy,
begin well before covid, but
to execute the largest wealth
history. Yet very few Americans
more recent theft, particularly
much of the independent media
policies, either declined to
unaware it even happened with
major US debt crisis is on the
person who broke the going
explain what Blackrock has done
during this apparently
will also discuss the
wave that began with the
and how Blackrock covid era
revealing how many of the
few years were intentionally
successfully sought to
the financial services industry
that ostensibly regulate them.
best evidence video channel
platforms. He is also a frequent
Fitts Solari report, where he co
podcast. Also, as I alluded to a
author of the expose that
going direct policy during the
forensically exposed a variety
Wall Street and the Fed, often
years. Welcome back to unlimited
have you today.
Great to be back. Whitney,
wonderful. So while
name these days, I feel that
they actually do and the power
particularly as it relates to
their influence over the
giving a brief overview of what
and its relationship with us,
into the specifics?
Yeah, let me, let me say one
story. I think the person who
Martins of
did was was, was explain the
paper dealing with the next
subsequently happened both on
banks balance sheets, and that's
alone doing, because so many
many monetary commentators
quantitative easing is merely an
the banking system at the
is incorrect and has been
itself, and it was refuted in
Anyway, we can get into that
about BlackRock. Though
world's largest asset manager,
they're a financial institution.
entities are different. Banks
non banks. Non banks are include
reach into our pocket, we pull
dispossessed of that money when
lend on the piggy bank model.
lends $20 whether it's a
America, or a wholesale bank or
Reserve, they don't they don't
the money. They create that
it out against an asset, and
in. So BlackRock, technically,
the Treasury in 2008 but their
when they when Blackrock went
created out of thin air, and
pandemic began, the Fed
of reserves out of thin air and
this in early 2020, through the
bought assets from non banks,
global financial crisis. 2008
bailing out banks, and it was
from non banks, but in 2020 it
from from non banks, and that
August of 2019 at the biggest
the year in Jackson Hole
Kansas City Fed. BlackRock has a
next downturn, and in that
know what? There's going to be
is Federal Reserve, you're going
banks, which is a departure from
global financial crisis of oh
need to inject money, helicopter
commercial banking system, and
the New York the overnight repo
melt down. The New York Fed
assets from non banks, and that
2020 up through March 2020 of
March 10, the World Health
worldwide pandemic, and the Fed
You know what, we gotta, we
what the Fed did not say when
connection with the pandemic
the asset from non banks. But
can see that very clearly. I've
video of that showing that the
assets from non banks, which had
the Fed bought in assets, it
of money in the commercial
pandemic. If you added up all
accounts in the US, the
13 and a half trillion, when it
out at $18 trillion that was the
and that was managed by
in by the Fed to manage the
signed a waiver saying, oh, you
actually buy BlackRock. You can,
assets. Isn't that great. So
you own with, with, with money
buy your own assets. What a
because we're signing a, you
do that. So it really wasn't
a bank robbery with a gun to
along the lines of Blackrock had
leveraged the living be Jesus
of it, and, and, you know,
they crushed demand by basically
for, you know, a year and a half
know, massively expanding the
banks. I don't know if maybe how
here, but you've done some
breaking down, you know, very
system of reserves and of money,
think when you talk about the
be helpful for listeners that
know, knowing things are messed
mechanisms. Here, it might make
you know, the creation of
capital, you know, money
this private, public
the Fed and Treasury make
money, and then what the repo
repo market exploding in
before lockdowns. You know why
So is that? Is that too broad of
mind just kind of going over,
The repo market is is less
triggered the crisis, for sure,
amount of asset purchases done
billion which, at the time,
ultimately paled in comparison,
complicated because the Fed to
so that you can never know who
from. The Fed buys assets from
if you went to the Fed, even if
Fed, say, who'd you buy the
give you a list of 24 primary
who they bought the assets from.
let's, let's talk about the two
more important component, and
pandemic quantitative easing,
pandemic, from what it did
financial crisis. The global
trouble. Okay, all the banks, I
Morgan says. JP Morgan was as
That whole notion is just a lie.
first video I ever made was
baseball, where I show that JP
Diamond's line of Congress, they
what the Fed did then was they
when do you do that? Banks don't
like you do. They have special
bank at commercial banks. Banks
the Fed. The Fed is the bank's
do their banking with the Fed.
savings accounts. They use
reserves like tokens. And so
from JP Morgan and Citigroup,
say, a billion dollars of these
thin air, give them to the
Chase or Bank of America, and in
over an asset to and mostly it
two thirds treasuries and 1/3
that made the banks liquid.
of asset trading at that time.
that the markets had seized up.
reserves are highly liquid, but
assets stays within the banking
At the wholesale level, there's
the on the commercial deposit
go up, my banking account
money supply at that retail
purchase of an asset from a
the pandemic, and the Fed is no
from banks. Banks aren't the
Mark, it's really, in theory,
trouble because they're being
much. But the point either way
buying assets, not from
institutions like, say, Tesla,
hedge funds, that would be
institution. And when you do
because say, let's just call
an example. Even though I don't,
they bought assets from Tesla.
Tesla does not have an account
does the Fed go to Tesla and buy
account at the Fed. They can't
don't mean anything to the
Cheese tokens. The Tesla's like,
that transaction works is, no,
don't have an account of the
the rules. No, I know. I
Well, it's kind
of what went on. So the way
is the Fed goes to Tesla's bank,
banks at it's on the West Coast.
Fed to buy an asset from Elon
going to work is we're going to,
dollars of reserves at Wells
Wells Fargo balance sheet. Now
corresponding liability on its
sheets need to drum roll balance
is created at Wells Fargo, it
credit to Elon Musk's bank
at Wells Fargo. And now
Musk got rid of his $1 billion
billion new dollars in his Wells
checked out. He's all squared
because it's got a billion
side of his balance sheet, the
liabilities in the form of a new
checking account. On the
balanced out because it's got
it got from Elon Musk, which is
BlackRock, and it's got a
called $1 billion of reserves.
transaction, and that is the
wrote, I did video after video
wrote a paper saying, yeah,
things work when we buy assets
went on, and that's, that's what
money supply in the banking
trillion to $18 trillion that's
All these other bogeymen they
buying assets from non banks.
of the Bank of England, threw
Yep, that's the Fed's fault for
Wow, interesting. And that
know. Because what it means is,
Blackrock is concerned, it
managing a ton of assets, and we
they're, you can rest assured,
manager was brought in because
you know, pretty much the
Number one, number two, as I
allowing Blackrock to take both
prevent Blackrock from investing
and plunk, you know, a billion
answered nothing blocked them to
conflicts of interest bound up
yet it went forward with very
say, very little understanding
financial matters. That's what,
this is just, they're stop
That's that's the answer that
well, there's not gonna be
swap at the wholesale level.
swap. It's a third, three way
entity that has the effect of
replicating the creation of
a billion dollars of new
from a non bank, you are, by
creating, in parallel, $1
banking system. So stop saying
yet to this day, I see renowned
very line, and it's completely
false. It's unbelievable. Yeah,
there's also, I mean, I
as well. Is that not only were
know, assets from non bank
obvious, you know, conflict of
Blackrock were buying their own
think that maybe would be a good
about, maybe, like, what an ETF
dominated, you know, since oh
bought the iShares brand from
government bailout, you know.
of like the most popular vehicle
such a it's such a great
to basically just index and just
then sell, you know, shares of
actually have to really do too
yeah. So, so why has the ETF
into bitcoin stuff and whatever,
from, you know, not, not messing
oh, wait, to now being the
world. And I think the ETF
this stuff. So maybe just kind
In my opinion, the ETFs have
an easy way for Joe Schmo to get
he sold on a couple he's like,
It's indexed. It's across a
different companies. You don't
managed by Larry Fink, and he's
your money and we'll spread it
you know, in the electronic car,
it really is expanded the
the stock market. But notice
professional money managers like
effect of it to me, it's, it's
than anything else, because if
10k filings that every, or even
10k filings of companies that
exchange, you know, every, every
annual report with the
Commission, and one of the parts
proxy statement, which includes
owners. And so you can go
by company, and see who wants
And when you do that, I don't
it's a company of any size at
same names again and again and
fidelity, State Street. There's
state Street's a bank, but
but they're a bunch of different
managers, and so if you think
numbers that are typical, the
with huge companies, and so far
are 789, percent right around
well, this company, that's a lot
publicly traded company. I mean,
and realistically, you gotta
well, who owns BlackRock, who
know, you can only peel that
9% that's an enormous amount of
you can threaten, we'll dump
price and destroy your bonus,
this. And when you talk about a
you know BlackRock, you know
Those, those asset managers, own
company. So it's really, to me,
those companies need to get in
Blackrock can dump the stock,
Blackrock is in bed with the
setting monetary policy. So it
parcel of a larger control
system.
Well, something else you've
the, I guess, downstream effects
of these killer whale account
explain what those killer whale
helped create them, and their
the collapse of Silicon Valley
regional banking crisis of that
direct reset didn't
reset created those killer whale
about what a killer whale
whale account is any it's a bank
departure from the bank
were created during a going
to my Elon Musk's example. Let
Elon Musk, though, to a more
Peter Thiel. But Peter Thiel
period, full stop. That's Peter
moved all of his money and all
Silicon Valley Bank, and it
testimony on the record is that
accounts in Silicon Valley Bank
Thiel. He wrecked that bank. $42
in a day, and that's what wiped
possible? How can that much
the during the global financial
weeks to move something like $16
those west coast. Banks. And
one, but two weeks versus six
enabled by the killer whale
comes, like I said, back to the
Fed comes to Peter Thiel or
what? We want to buy an asset
got a billion dollar Treasury
from you. And Palantir is like,
We don't take those stupid
with Wells Fargo, and the Fed
give them the money. Well, now
dollar account at Wells Fargo in
That's a lot of money. And
people don't hold on to bank
they're uninsured. Only $250,000
So what do you do? Well, the
you, you put it in the treasury
know, it's the government and
the government goes belly up,
than your assets. So that's
keep that much money in the bank
because they're not getting an
happens is, all these people are
dollar accounts, and north of a
well, I don't why are they
mean, I could see somebody
bank for, you know, a week or a
get their ducks in a row. But
companies like Palantir or Peter
for a long time, and then they
And when a bank, when you
you know it's a liability to the
that's a good deal for the bank.
leaving but that's not the way
they send out of liability to
a corresponding asset, and the
So deposits leaving is a big
gonna, it's gonna drain your
billion dollars, and somebody
it's gonna drain your asset side
That's what. Why? Because people
they keep assets on hand, in
liabilities. But in practice, a
side of a bank's balance sheet
that fast, and so the sudden
send a bank like Silicon Valley
what happened. But Peter Thiel
was enabled by pandemic QE, by
that that's exactly how that
talked about that, despite the
Congressional Record on that
Virginia, senator from Virginia,
shows that $13 billion left that
six hours. How does that happen?
because the Fed was buying
that worked. Yeah. It's
interesting when you
Thiel being CIA contractor, and
of intelligence links and some
So for example, you know, Mark
something that will encompass
in oh eight, and some of the
been kind of surprising. So, you
my work on Epstein a few years
fact that he is essentially the
pulled a bunch of money out, in
out of one of Bear Stearns, like
knowing that it would go over if
course, he has intelligence
thereafter, I found out that the
Brothers at the time of the oh
went under, had been a top
year or two prior. Her name was
she's like, one of the top
Relations. So, you know, it kind
one considers, sort of like the
Wall Street and the intelligence
If you know, maybe there's other
ultimately are these bank
like that, which is, ultimately,
one of the main results of, oh
exactly right, yeah. And then,
crisis. So yeah. Do you have any
Well, first of all, that's a
crisis. Sure, the banks that
were all top 50 banks in the US.
banks. They all had $200 billion
in the top 50, if not the top
that was, that was that that's
misnomer to get you off the cent
takedown of those banks. And
regional bank is a bank like it
Sure. You know, Silicon Valley
the connections to intelligence,
interesting connections, both
Lehman Brothers story there, and
the record too. The Fed, they
Brothers, but chose not to that
grudge that Hank Paulson had
well known that that was just a
could have bailed that out that
legal authority is absolutely
significance of the intelligence
the banking, the central bank in
the central bank, modern central
been top dog in every country
that is that you know the money
primal sovereign power, over and
you need the money to prosecute
happy, because a war is a big
of money. It requires a lot more
system. So the bankers are the
researched Epstein, I've looked
Epstein, how many central
photographs of people around
Because Jeffrey Epstein's, he's,
blackmail operation. That's why,
get involved with that guy. You
see Larry Summers there. You see
you see Tim Geithner there? Do
Bill Dudley there, or Ben
you don't see those guys.
know better. They've been warded
banks are the dog and everything
central banks need policy
the military, they'll go through
they're the ones calling the
that. I mean to me the
this he might have been around
Bear Stearns was, for sure a hit
me, when I look at Epstein, i i
happened, and we've already
passage of TARP. Because on
tarp passes, it fails, it gets
then magically, 55 people change
going for tarp to yes, we're all
happen? Some people say,
there was an auction hell, and
that. I think that the gun was
if you watch capitalism, A Love
movie's not that good, but I'll
its weight in gold because it's
of Marcy Kaptur, who was there
no both times. And Elijah
voted no once, and then he voted
him. He never. Michael Moore
Elijah Cummings switches his no
Cummings did that. And when
said, you know, Michael Moore
Why did you know what's what's
Elijah Cummings just says,
in this country. These people
Kaptur herself said that bailout
was, that was run from the
intelligence operation, like the
sniffing around Jeffrey Epstein,
votes that got flipped, because
just bought off. Some of them
that.
Well, as I recall, there's
that said that Henry Paulson
bailout wasn't passed,
yeah, that was Brad Sherman.
I think Cynthia McKinney
Yeah, yeah, that's true,
yeah, you're right. He did
There was a lot of lies going on
tanks in the street was one of
there's a lot of the sky is
think this, you know, that
sort of, okay, well, that's sort
But, you know, what's the why?
You know, why would a top down,
to, you know, to kill a bank or
what? What sort of effects does
supply, on the ability for the
budget, you know? And then, how
this? Because that's an
the pandemic in 2020, is that a
accounts are all being created
moment, a zerp environment
make slightly more sense outside
to keep, you know, billions of
can't really earn this, this
time this, you know, regional
happened. You know, the Fed is
in the history of the United
Volcker's. You know, double
after the severance of the, you
basically, in the 80s. So, so,
you know, and I say we obviously
the United States as an
want to create these huge debt
bail them out, basically, with,
creation of new reserves? Is
advantage to doing this? Is this
we need to basically inflate
any insight there as to why? You
Why would we? I'll take
because there's a few
with the one I can't answer. I
Why do you take out Silicon
and a couple others? I don't
example is one answer. You
them even bigger. Now that's one
effects of the financial crisis,
the gun to the government's head
we'll blow your brains out.
have even more leverage. Now let
those banks have that leverage
the commercial banking supply,
bank, let's just take JP Morgan
ballpark $2 trillion in deposits
money. If you erase that from
problem on your hands. You You
going to have money. You're you
hours, the amount of time it's
country to start burning down.
banks had in 2008 you give us
dollars, would burn your cities
lose us. We have all that money,
that, and they've gotten even
Valley Bank and others going
process of rolling, you know,
banks and that that that is one
find that answer altogether
jury is still out on that. Why
what you the question is, have
and bigger like it is, and then
that's been done for hundreds of
is because money in in the
world now, because money is
loans, the money supply is at
you never have enough money to
leave the control over the money
banks. And private banks have
they create bubbles, and then
Depression is probably the
bubble, but they know what
advance this is going to happen.
are going to go down, and then
the assets for pennies in the
ancient formula. Okay, to me,
why is what's going on now?
is, you alluded to it earlier,
US debt is becoming massive.
now the the interest payment on
military expenditures in the US
Because everybody knows that
exceeds your income, it's
you issue the money or not. If
than the amount of income you
mathematically, you're gone. So
think the answer to me is, and
this is the US is being forced
that crisis takes the form of a
due to massive interest payments
create money out of we create
World War The US is being forced
changes are going to be offered
of the things you're seeing now
all quarters on the US
grave concern to me, because I
fact is that despite all the Fed
transparent central banks, and
transparent central bank in the
due to the Constitution. It's a
Constitution, because the Fed is
the Fed come into existence? It
majority of the House and the
in 2000 in 1913 and the
on the ACT. It was created by a
The Fed can be dispensed and
as easily. Majority of the
Secretary, President, and it is
Congress. It's a creature of
that reason, that constitutional
into the Fed. I mean, name
world that's lost FOIA lawsuits
courts, I can't think of any.
transparency into the Fed. Now,
it's not like, you know, the
Mr. Sunshine either. But there's
than there isn't, to say, the
where the Jesus over there, it's
for people Members of Parliament
central bank. I mean, it's an
have no transparency. They have
You know, the ECB issues these
dogging pony shows. But they
do it because they don't want to
Okay, so the Fed is the most
due to the US Constitution, and
what the powers that be need out
regime where, you know, force
the Fed to have true
Fed's independence now means
branch. That's what independence
legally in the US. That's not
independence from the
nation, independence from
they're after. And I think these
same direction, in the direction
of emergency powers to to be
Constitution for the very
I mean, it's definitely
attack on on the Constitution,
know, the, you know, financial
And as it relates to what may
Valley Bank in particular, you
working a lot on an
Peter Thiel, pretty
for a very long time, in
CIA contractor, his you know,
the past few decades has been
changing how money is issued.
when PayPal was first created,
a broker of, like a new global
So it may be related to sort of
have come to the fore with the
the potential of how that would
is maintained in that sort of
of just of, you know, banks
of thin air, what about people
example, a stable coin, or
example, the biggest dollar
to essentially create, you know,
with really little transparency.
Yeah, that's, um, that is
excellent and interesting
of that because, let me back up
at the highest level is done by
Banks. So the Bank of New York,
Reserve Bank of Richmond, and so
banks are private, okay? They're
to be private, but they're part
which is which is public. So
transparency into, say, the New
Bloomberg versus Pittman, and
Bloomberg versus the Federal
Federal Reserve, where there's
even into the private Federal
with the transparency that's
Peter Thiel or Palantir, it's
that's what federal the central
saying what we really want is
system. We don't want any
think Whitney, when you're
creation we already have, the
this country, big time. Go look
sheet. Last time I checked their
half trillion dollars of it
there's some measure of
Constitution. However you you
companies like Oracle and
all these guys, they all got CIA
Pretty much no, but Peter
thiel's a libertarian. John,
and contractor an FBI informant
a billion dollars and be a
Yeah, you're right, you're
satisfied now. Yeah, that so,
that's, that's speculation on
issuance of money that that
they're doing it with no
FOIA that applies to Amazon, or
any of those others is there?
can't get, you can get into
don't, they don't really tell
right? And maybe there's a
they're a publicly traded
But a lot of this, right, you
where I sort of, you know, this
CBDCs, at least when it comes to
a red herring of census, where,
know, the US government really
hassle of having a retail facing
to keep this private, public
entities, as we've kind of seen,
really broke the bubble for a
lot of her reporting on on some
private companies that really
know, like a Facebook or
out of, you know, these CIA
know, Oracle, as you mentioned
came out of the CIA as Project
really what, and now it's
the world, you know, Fancy that.
a lot of sense, but, but this
the private sector, because we
a lot more in the private
access in the private sector,
know, the Fed actually, you
stuff as much as they've, you
you know, financial terrorism,
a lot of ways, with their
yada yada. You know, they're
You know, 12 nodes is actually
versus a Wells Fargo dollar or
I am curious, you know, in this,
know, how do you look at the
you know, not to lead the
being more as like a reserve
digitalization of the reserves
what fed now is sort of this
not a retail facing thing. Do
in the banks, private entities
programmable money? Or do you
facing government issued
soon?
The feds. Let me back up.
about cbdc and makes me think
herring. I don't think it's a
problems with it. The thing that
is it was four years ago. This
got up and follow the IMF the
general manager of the Bank for
is the Central bank of Central
Switzerland, that there that
not getting anything, any
that they don't want you to
October of 2020, and says, you
bill, the great thing about cbdc
1000 peso note, is, you know,
what people are doing with the
spending on whatever they want.
and total control to enforce the
enforce the rules, he loses his
ago where he's touting the
Four years a long time. And are
a cbdc? What people forget is in
IMF in october 2020, Jerome
call too, and he said, Well, you
you know, we've, we got a
we've got, we've got to take
And he said in another
legislation from Congress.
transparency, you know, monster
view, they don't want that
have it to get just to get the
hard place. They want the cbdc,
congressional record that
bright light a day. So they're
place. In the meantime, you have
of pseudo money growing up from
board with, you know, Bitcoin
I wondered whether it's going to
they're going to definitely
out, is there? I you know, look,
Everybody knows there's a crisis
there could be a lot of people
at that time, because these
prototyped, you're going to see
income and digital money coming
from the Fed, whether it's
else, I think you'll see it
their toe into that water and
of do what they've done with the
financial crisis kind of crushed
the bottom rungs of society in
it's steadily turned its way
the same thing with cbdc. It'll
that's sold. They're already
inclusion that we're helping
they don't even have a bank
try to sell it. That same
selling point of like,
that is actually pretty
coins, yeah. And what's
getting around what you referred
fantasizing about total control,
have this problem in the US
you know, the kind of approach
very similar to how they got
protections that would have
Americans after 911 where they
sector spy programs and there
basically privatize those like,
came out of, and Palantir also.
private entities are
and then selling it or sharing
intelligence agencies and the
let's take $1 stable coin like
kind of data that would afford,
hands, for example, total
public, it looks like it's a
know, public sector from the
you know, tether has been very
onboarded the FBI and the Secret
willing to freeze anything that
they'll seize and and freeze
wallets whenever the US
enjoys this sort of reputation
Global South, that it's not the
bank the unbanked, for people
dollars in their home country,
local currencies, like in
becoming a very covid, a rather
world, dollarize the world. And
people that I know you're
good friend Larry Summers has
about that, I don't know. So it
repeating that same play that
with the whole US warrantless
a public private partnership. It
digital dollars that already
well, and looking for this new
regulation and stable Coin World
sort of be the king of the
that seem like they're going to
cbdc equivalent of the US. And
earlier this year at the Bitcoin
embraced that, that vision, I
going to bring in stable coins,
transition team, Howard lutnic
a major, I guess, Baron, you
the treasury market. He's also
treasuries, because there's a
in the treasury market. So it
it's it's shaping up. Well,
that's where they need to
treasuries, right? I mean,
this is about, is financing that
so eloquently earlier, about how
that, that that fulcrum point
payments are now worth more than
country. Our interest payments
pay to upkeep. You know, the the
zombie company you would never
right now. You take us out back
to make the Treasury market, you
you know, one of the fastest
No, they actually, they
they've already, yeah, they've
Don't worry about that. What you
got to read fed papers. I mean,
the plan, which is the Fed is
itself. Right now, under current
changed the law, right? I mean,
hey, wouldn't this be a great
treasuries in that way, all
No, I'm not, I'm not kidding.
does buy the Treasury, the newly
the Fed, by law, has a turnover,
those interest payments just can
government. Because Because the
over 90% of its profit back to
interest payments you got to
to go to the Fed and then pass
government. So didn't they read
That's everything's hunky dory.
I trust the plan. John, I
that's very fascinating. I'm
about this, this idea of, you
dead and the Treasury market.
I've kind of gotten into some
economists about, kind of, the
the idea of, you know, creating
maybe this concept of the Euro
liabilities for dollars. Then
that those liabilities increase
know, legitimate dollar assets.
that is sort of economically
spurring artificial demand for
inflating through this de facto
Bretton Woods scenario. Or is it
Treasury is the most liquid
Dollar is just the best money.
political, military play or just
winning? Well,
I don't they're not mutually
going on. I mean, right now, US,
the world, or US denominated US
assets account for something
in the world, and a lot of that
considered the most it is the
in the world, because a lot of
don't want to keep it the money
to treasuries and get an
Greenspan testified in early
the debt because so many people
but they you can't pay them
precious treasuries. You. He
of it, but another part of it is
the petro dollar. I found out
Austin, Austin Fitz this week,
show that Iraqi oil has the
deposited directly in to the New
like, well, I didn't know about
it happened as a result of the
was an article in the cradle or
There was an executive order
signed by every presidential
that time that says, Yeah, we
country that we destroyed, and
is to take care of ourselves.
into the New York Fed. Yeah. So
bankers will do everything in
extend their control over the
for sure, is a big part of that.
interesting bringing up
2000 they Iraq came out and said
oil and euros and then money.
And was like, Look what you
nations, could
do. And then, and then what
happened. The next couple of
door and enrolled in, yeah,
central bank warfare model
ginning up a lot of debt is a
really good thing, because not
of debt, you get to go overseas
too. It's not wonderful. And at
to make that interesting, why
of things called taxes? Yeah,
1694 when the Bank of England. I
William Paterson.
But it's just such a, I
changed, yeah. Patterson
system. This is Patterson the
great system, because we could,
thin air and get interest on our
I mean, I hate laughing
criminal and terrible, but it's
blatant, and now at this point
criminals are running all the
everything in public sector
I mean, it's just, you know,
just so beyond brazen, I guess.
I'm kind of reassured to now it
criminals, and not just like,
of nice to know, in a weird way,
know,
right? No, no. There was no
was baked into the cake hundreds
It is really interesting
know, the get again again.
pretty, pretty nicely here, that
is kind of innately this
then you look at like the Trump
coming in. We know, we talked
he's kind of the, the main
kind of the first go around. And
useful for my thesis, or our
know, one of the critical you
really, really shaped the Trump
in. He recommends Powell, you
these things, you know, Mnuchin
also former Goldman Sachs,
mentioned earlier, and
Bannon. Steve Bannon, under,
know, you start to see, you
this, you know, corruption,
the regulators, jumping back and
know, they're leading the
minute, they're, you know, the
Rubens case, or whatever. So,
big thing that a lot of people
we're getting ready for election
really, you know, kind of
there's this amnesia, for
in the in the fiscal stimulus,
in The in the bringing in of
basically rewrite, you know, the
capital creation. Why do you why
keep happening right over
oh, eight is during this
know, why? Is, why is covid
it sort of this obfuscation of
coincidence? Obviously, that's a
know it's not a coincidence.
but that's a great point. Is,
get to a flash point, not not
you know, presidential election
on OA, because I know the OA
that's when you can make deals.
point of view, was a deal. He,
there, and the people in his
part of a deal. Well, what's
interesting about Obama is
family from Chicago called the
people at JP, Morgan, yes, was
crown, I think in that
rise in Obama's time at Chicago.
out, once Obama was like, Oh,
cabinet was pretty much chosen
treasury secretary. So it seems
sort of deal made. Well,
the Treasury Secretary, Tim
remind you, was, he'd been the
Geithner ran that
dog in that administration.
and
and I believe summers, that
Summers was also an advisor to
critical, critical in the
market, which kind of, you know,
extremely critical in the, you
you know, we talked earlier
crisis, being this misnomer,
regional banks anymore. Well,
anymore? Because they got rid of
be within, you know, in other
Glass Steagall. So, you know, we
think the deal making thing is,
great answer to a very
say, so as we're, as we're
chairing Trump's transition
ready for this, you know, again,
crisis, that that is controlled
controlled demolitions. You
What? What should our listeners
for? You know, what's what? What
we're kind of going into this,
period, that is, you know, the
would you recommend people do? I
tell people to invest in
that can't be taken away from
because the rest of it could be
of law. The bets all bets are
mean, there's been no rule of
time, since 2012 when the
it's flat out, says some banks
prosecute them, too big to jail.
means there's no rule of law
theft of your assets, the
that's all out the window. So
taken from you with your
thing is, at the same time, you
at the door, because it's not
not going to inform your
more time you spend on partisan
inform your view of how the
wasted those partisan politics
parking lot in Alaska when it
how the system works, you need
you do that, though, you got to
politicians, because they will
will respond the outrage. There
global financial crisis, after
angry about tarpassing and so
calls against it, the calls
ran over 100 to one. This is
testimony. 101 is a massive
buckled again and again and
Congress had angry people behind
death. That's what they don't
Yeah, beautiful. It's
specifically we talked about
reactionary or a deal. But, I
that, that discord, you know,
was 18 years old, you know, but
Was kind of the beginning of
seeing the way that that was
you know, now we go, oh, it's
and change. Here comes Obama.
than Bush and print more money,
thing, but, but hey, but he got
got it, but he got a Nobel Peace
it doesn't really mean anything,
not have a Nobel Peace Prize at
this unbelievable co option, you
very interesting, you know,
dialectics. And I think we're
there's this whole counter
that have now just, you know,
being, you know, covid
to many degrees. And now they're
to Biden's inflation, and, you
whatever, is Trump. And so
this false dichotomy, you know,
because, I mean, it's fair
out, John with with going
Blackrock brokered plan,
downturn, and now we're facing
had the Trump administration,
Powell, you know, implement a
Biden administration's econ team
run by Blackrock people. And I
her campaign, is one of those
Biden administration and now
You know, it seems kind of
Blackrock is going to get called
of scheme as it relates to how
should respond. But there seems
amnesia or just like no interest
like a bipartisan theft, and I
when you look at, oh, wait, how
as cover for what happened with
really successful, because
out, right? Because so many of
of the major aspects of covid
or no evidence, right? And then
can't really talk about the
of undermining a lot of the
to promote, like him being anti
So,
um, no, those, those are,
are did. In other words, the
not to be underestimated for the
them, right? So that's why I
partisan politics and try to get
on, that's that's the that's
time and effort, barking at
people do that. It's like you're
going to die in front of your TV
die. Stop doing it.
Yeah, it's really
this book that's The Best Way to
sort of talking about the SNL.
the SNL crisis. And they talk
pushing this, you know, this
freeing the markets, and how
the way. And at the same time,
let this crisis be known, this
we're saying doesn't exist in
Please don't, you know, say that
it, and please don't tell anyone
would be this big about face of
ran on, you know, this
here, and we have this huge, you
insurance, you know, group that
backing, you know, the savings
you know, insolvent. But we
there's a really interesting
economics, this deregulation, to
biggest sort of, you know,
of misdirection and of rhetoric.
you know, in in during his
Bitcoin is, is, you know, kind
the dollars, that is the king.
you know, Bitcoin is a bunch of
bunch of hot air, but, but what
having Mnuchin come in. Mnuchin
is a former VP and executive at
exchange in the United States.
acting, you know, the head of
you know, I guess, kind of head,
for, for the financial markets,
the oldest banking regular
yes, and
so, so he's a former one
he comes in, and he basically
banks can hold crypto assets,
So he comes in and does this all
tweeting out, you know, things
bringing in and establishing,
allow banks to hold these
know, Trump's former money
Blackrock ETF, which is the
There's a Trump family now
with the Trump family. Yeah,
that's another interesting
two months away from the
announces, you could ignore the
he's issuing his own currency.
conversation, this teal, this
capital creation. You know, How
candidate, you know, two months
announcing that he's issuing his
in this, we're in this strange,
basically the Blackrock ETF is
extreme degree, a 22 billion
candidate who kind of set up all
administration is coming out
the $35 trillion debt using
they're going to dollarize the
these private bank digital cars.
doesn't understand debt.
understand what he's thought. He
about. Well, don't understand
Ben, yeah. Well, he's also a
perhaps misdirection, but
understanding debt? In this
what do you use to pay off
pay off debt unless the unless
is money. Right? You can't pay
creditor agrees. Why would they
Right? Well, I guess perhaps
could do it is maybe sort of
dollar system, where they they
demand for treasuries and for
and out monopoly on the on the
using stable coins or something
the sense of, you know, of
can't pay dollar denominated
dollars unless, yeah, you agree
yeah, without concern. I
to Whitney's point of the
Because if you look at it,
money in the system. The money
what, what legally, is money in
Reserve notes, and it's coins.
than that, when banks create
credit your deposit account with
Deposit Account, that's not
That's why you're an unsecured
it's not money, right? If
your hands. You'd own it, and
Counterparty, but you don't own
insurance on it in case the bank
bye. Real Money doesn't do that.
isn't truly money. It's credit,
so it's like, well, as long as
letting private parties create
air, why not take it out a level
too? Right? So I think that
thinking along the lines of this
more and more privatization of
unregulated parties creating,
gotten away from money, right?
the regulation to begin with, is
you know, the right to coin
the constitutions. Congress has
regulate the value thereof. Um,
sovereign privilege, and
sovereign privilege, back to
as long as you let private banks
regulate them, because you've
delegated out, you farmed out a
to keep your eye on them. But if
and far. Of a way, you've got a
because you have no more
into that system. That's a
about that too. You guys raised
it's interesting. You know,
investigative series, and one of
on is Facebook's Libra project,
Metaverse Plaza Accord where,
to do this basket of currency
obviously would have just sort
And the interesting thing about
been around for about a decade.
know, Facebook came up with this
didn't really care about Bitcoin
kind of can't be a payment
billion people, 4 billion
billion active users in a month.
Facebook announces they want to
make private currency. You know,
testify in front of Congress.
this is, is the US intelligence
pretending to feign, oh no, this
obviously, I think it really
payments, and, you know, you
know, you know, what Bitcoin
fascinating. But to your point,
are forgetting what money really
into the cbdc play really
government is creating a
account, it relies on a
party. It's basically a checking
settle, you know, a cbdc between
trusted, a trusted settlement
zero works. That's not how base
note doesn't rely on that. A
on it's a liquid, exchangeable,
correct, but, but a checkings
go up the chain to m2 or, or
innately trust in the system.
of is, you know, can a
digital form? Is that even
I think so. But I wouldn't
could, in other words, the
system now is really silver
there's no counterparty at all.
a quarter. It's worth 25 cents.
bill is a little bit different,
however, when it's created,
not by the Treasury, there's a
yeah, it's money, but it's, it's
came money, a debt. Debt came
either case you don't, there's
Settlement is only involved when
bank credit. In other words,
an IOU from the bank to you.
you? Well, one of two things,
Reserve notes if you demand
called a demand deposit account.
to another bank, it owes the
for that transfer. But that then
into the note. The issue of
not really money. And thus,
necessarily have two parties
somewhere in the chain
Can it? Can have currents? Can a
digital money?
Um,
yeah, I think it could. But
settlement of that, you still
and record keeping. So I'd have
don't know the answer to that
don't think they will, though,
system is such an inherent
to issue the quote, unquote
instantaneous advantage over
if you can issue money, why work
Just gin the money up out of
with your liabilities of your
asset side of your balance
We're done. That's why it's set
people who issue the debt, to
system if you're just issuing
corresponding asset. You just
out there. Historically, money
were put out there. They're, you
existence, and they're accepted
payment of taxes and duties and
it's done. But when you issue
you getting in return? You're
getting services of soldiers,
Yeah. Whereas a debt based
issued, you know, the money is
lot of times those assets are
a lot of times there's other
don't, I don't know. I have a
people who run this system are
debt based monetary system
of a pure money system, because
offer them any inherent
You gotta remember the people
that the people running the
and need the advantage of an
field, and that tilt is provided
the issuance of debt based
advantage, and I don't see them
So I wanted to return to a
Trump or some other president,
Bitcoin to pay off the US
Mark and I had sort of
possible, since, you know, the
defines Bitcoin as a commodity,
cryptocurrencies that it defines
these actors we've been talking
podcast have a very well
manipulating the price of
would happen, for example, if at
dollar debt crisis will be, and
happen if they manipulated the
levels that it would enable them
whatever, dollars, since bitcoin
You've got to you know that
counterparties. You know,
people in the US who hold
some of that money. Banks hold a
those counterparties. You know,
trillion a day, you have to have
of consent to agree to take
that anytime soon, and not
it's going to take to do that,
very interesting. I think
them doing it, I agree. And I
phenomenal point. I mean, you
our biggest editors or
people, you know, sort of de
dollarization in general is,
misdirectional red herring. I
rapidly dollarizing. I think the
from sovereign central banks and
in the Global South, if you
to dollars. But I think the way
is through sort of capital
basically manufacture consent by
say, Hey, you want to hold, hey,
Bitcoin on your balance sheet?
it's a liability. You need to
more dollar denominated assets
through capital requirements,
just, you know, general, the the
right now, you know, we can
firms that want to hold massive
in equal part dollars. And so I
lever that consent and I agree,
Japan or China, you know, to
bitcoin, but, but there's a
you know, a Tesla Palantir, a
These groups that have worked
are very likely connected, or
intelligence state, and most of
right located in the US, or like
know, $22 billion of Bitcoin
is sort of a setup here where
Manufacture that consent through
What do you think about that?
they can. They can provide
be clear, regardless of whether
would be held on the asset side
mean this, that's not who
anybody except the issuer? But
right? It's just out there.
Well, currently the the way
there they they actually got it
to change the denomination of
asset, but it actually is
companies that want to hold
tether guy, Chair of Trump's
Fitzgerald, one of those 25 you
participants with the New York
let me ask you this, if it's
hold it? Why would anybody spend
liability? Well, they have
dollars, which is super
theoretically they could sell it
value. You know, someone like
the fact that they could
liability, don't it's kind of
to sell my electric bill. Nobody
great point. Well, I It's,
antiquated, I mean, again,
pushing to change this. But it
and Biden vetoed it. So there's
the accounting rules. But you
if they allow any sort of
to to become money, right? So,
it as as a liability. Yeah, I
because he had, you know,
where he was saying, hey, you
tethers treasuries, you know,
you know, I think at one point,
all volume in the treasury
25 authorized participants in
primary dealer, yeah, excuse me.
hey, banks don't want to touch
antiquated accounting rules.
got to Biden's desk. He vetoed
hold, you know, this ridiculous
hold Bitcoin. So no bank is
need to fix it. So, you know,
of Trump's transition team.
moving heavily into Bitcoin. The
know, were a huge part of the
administration were part of the
capital. You know, they've,
creating sort of a US dollar
of infamous email from Jared to
post, who's, you know, another T
the concept of a US dollar
be helpful for for us hedgeman.
movement here, of, I would say
essentially a new, you know,
going into this, the issuance of
know, we're seeing PayPal move
know, we're seeing more and more
are these huge infrastructure
pivoting from going, you know,
suddenly for it. Trump is now
Bitcoin the crypto capital of
which I think is an important
the dominance, not, let's go get
dominate this, this system
we've, we've clearly talked
private, public thing. Money has
time, but now we're moving in
issuers of crypto assets, of
see, you know, basically this,
online, through covid, through
Now, now we're here. The Public
monetary network, essentially,
yeah, with wanting to make
Financial system, as Musk has
some sort of commission under
greater government efficient
Thanks,
yeah, so, I guess, yeah.
How many? How many can can
Crypto has assets on their
One Bank. There, there. One
the day before Brian books
Acting Comptroller of the
charter to a to a crypto Bank,
which is now running the reward
PayPal, stable coin. And then
believe he left. And so they
crypto native charter. And then,
was last week. They they made an
Board. I think it's 121 that
able to custody, which is, you
basically to to allow them to
have the dollar
custody. Custody is a
means that they keep it in a
after. What I'm after is, are
in the US now, 4500
something like, roughly,
How many of the 4500 banks
balance sheets? Not in not in
balance sheet, that's in
your balance sheet?
I think, literally, just
Mellon is able to, but I don't
So, so yeah, I think you're
not a direct whole Bank of
Bitcoin on their balance sheet
system is not really ready for
switch to happen. They're sort
their sort of King made
Anchorage digital to be, you
know, it's advised by PayPal
you know, kind of connected to
they're letting BNY Mellon kind
sort of unleash this, this wave.
doing it selectively. But it
when a JP Morgan, which, again,
and JP Morgan were doing this,
settlement network with
They were playing with these
shortly. And I think, you know,
will be incredibly important for
they kind of already did.
He says, who's the biggest
US, the
biggest issuer? Well,
largest, and it is, you know,
let's, let's leave Bitcoin
bit different.
So the second largest, you
Ethereum. And the interesting
it's, it's sort of been
now there's kind of more, you
system of stable coins than
underlying like ether token. So
And that's a trend that we're
new private issued blockchains,
dollarized, you know, methods
What does that mean? Dollarized?
you know that their main, the
because these are just
ledgers, right? They're really a
It's basically just, you know,
can log in and, you know, make
They can publish new states, but
mutable ledger. So the ledger is
dis volatility of dollar
parties. Does that make sense?
I don't track that. No, I
Well, what I'm after is who is,
toward a system where you're
tokens as money because you want
privatizing what is ultimately a
let's say this is done through
executive branch have total
issuing the token?
Well, that's sort of where,
tethers of the world, which, you
you know, dollar you know,
having to work with law
Service, with the FBI. They have
know, because they're, they're
theoretically, you know, could
finance terrorism,
yeah, but that's because
agreeing to that, right? Well,
because if they want to hold
innately, they have to have sort
is the US regulatory regime to
then the answer is, yes,
yeah, because they need it,
And that's where I think
funny. It's like, Oh, wow. The
is a re creation of the private,
Great. So glad we did that. It's
sort of where we're going. Well,
I think that's going to be
is a lot of what you and Mark
it hinges on, like what might
forward. And I think it's going
the timing of that regulation in
that's essentially been
politicians, like, for example,
Paul Ryan, basically told The
some other prominent outlet,
within the next, like, three
that. And obviously they have
frame to either make it longer
depending on what kind of
for example, if they think they
regulate the regulation they
there isn't a crisis, they will
they want would not be passable
during a major crisis, where
window and people are like, What
something like that? I think we
potential regulations come
maybe far out, you know, now, at
sort of further, you know, the
is going to, you know, go along
centralized control for these
surveillance for the little
things that are sort of assured,
think you know the timing of the
important, as you know, in terms
Bitcoin, and as you know, Trump
he might be able to pay off the
it might relate a lot to the
that either come before that
makes itself known. Because when
crisis in the guns to people's
earlier in Oh, wait, you can get
would not get passed in another
that is very true. Keep in
people issuing credit or money
want is a system where two
have total control over the
over the system on the one hand,
there's no transparency and no
parties even external to
able to sit in a lockbox and
control everything outside, and
control anything inside. The
about regulation and stuff like
describing does not exist now
principles, due to elections and
those lines. Once they have that
about, they don't need your
about a scenario? And I
Catherine Austin Fitz, because
the fastab 56 that accounting
essentially, the government can
statements publicly and keep the
if, for example, they come in
transparency in the next
this fielded by RFK JR and some
suppose, that have been, you
know, spoken at Bitcoin and
things like that. So what if
transparent and are like, here's
transparency, but it's the fake
so I think that's another
potentially see the first,
the first question is, with
What Rule Do I have to enforce
your mind about being
is, give the Constitution you.
of Congress, and Congress has
Congress wants it or when their
somebody who's promising
like, what I call window display
yeah, but what if you change
the information? Can I see you
are we talking about here?
when push comes to shove, how do
you? Answer that, you know,
Well,
that's what's really
you look at the the sort of the
a completely open, transparent
you know, a private bank dollar,
you're doing in your bank
for me to be able to access
maybe they sell that data to
probably a lot of rules that
ability to sell that data.
perversion of the blockchain as
this altruistic thing of, you
And, you know, here, here we go.
the, take the money back, quite
ledger, and so that transparency
the first question with
ledger is all right? Well, tell
holders of Bitcoin are, and in
to a pin drop, is, nobody can
there's no transparency, right?
Well, actually, we've done
a quite a bit. And one of the
holders of Bitcoin is the US
enough. And now Blackrock is up
you know, like Coinbase, that's
CTS
of the ones you just
holder,
I think the biggest now, I
in the world is the Blackrock
they hold? Like, 22 billion All
outstanding amount of bitcoin?
around a trillion dollar asset,
so Blackrock holds two
well, they own, they own
that.
Okay, so it's tiny, so you
whale out there. Who else 100
wouldn't know
it totally, absolutely I, in
you that that's true. There's
where they where they talk
anonymous, right? Exactly. So
only people that knew about
rate of inflation was, you know,
it's it has this disinflationary
years, it cuts in half. It's
Oh, well, in the first four
libertarians and cypherpunks,
And it's like, no, I guarantee
live, but the US intelligence
didn't put it out themselves, I
that important, who actually
rather where it's going. That's
Where is it held? Who holds
more you guys talk about I mean,
stuff, right, crypto and
with a 10 foot bowl. But the
more it sounds like a monster
financial asset that is used by
has been used by the powers that
exactly the kinds of things
create crises. That's how the
Gold gets shipped around all the
there with gold and control is
gold, or they hold the vast
God forbid, want to, you
to gold, you need a, you need a,
you need all it's, it's very
you can hold around, right?
with bit this the Bitcoin
problem on steroids. Yeah. Who
collapse the market overnight
ship up the ounce, like you're
Well, now we're having the
so funny about, you know, the
kind of sort of retreated from
chief of Bitcoin magazine. I've
community as they're, you know,
Trumps of the world. And I'm
market manipulators. We JP,
are, they're, they're
know, they're paying, you know,
to make a lot of money. You
In their business. We tried
to tell people, embracing
we call the Doomers. Yeah, black
The only thing that can save
from buying and it's funny
saying that I think the US
price of Bitcoin and manipulate
dissuading you from buying it.
it fixes everything and it saves
is a tool innately anyway. It
much as it can free people. It
you custody it and all this
known market manipulators,
the guy, the guy wearing a
and holding a chainsaw. He's
don't you understand about that?
okay, but he's gonna pump
in? But maybe there'll be some
but he's on CNBC saying,
him in. Yeah, it's, it's, it's,
perversion and the dialectics
this, this really controlled
of good people, a lot of good
think there are good people that
Department and the Fed and and
BlackRock, of course. But you
and what they actually do to
people, there's a lot of
organizations. I work in an
the top is the problem, right?
interactions with the Fed, and
accommodating, and they've gone
me. They're good people those
I would, yeah,
no, well, it's probably
one thing I wanted to bring up
to a lot of other things we've
want to pick on Trump, but I
he's most likely going to win in
I wouldn't bet on that. Oh,
know. Trying to predict these
enough,
but I think, I think there's
that, like, if Trump, if he gets
think everyone knows if Kamala
going to do, which is the same
the past four years, and that
and whatnot. But there's sort of
that Trump has managed to
has he ever people that saw
to have, you know, fallen for it
sort of amnesia, you know. So as
this, I don't know if if
potential Treasury Secretary
reported that Trump had been
Larry Fink, and then walked
But the only person Trump is
him, for for the Treasury is a
may know, yeah, because he made
eight crisis. But he did so by
conspiracy with Goldman Sachs,
want to explain that and why?
have someone you know, the most
be in charge of the Treasury
fiscal crisis, perhaps.
How do you make money? How
know are going to go bad? You
default swaps and therein. So,
insurance policy on an asset
because the debt's not going to
credit default swap is. It's
because what it really is is
a lot disallowed by the law. So
default swaps. So what Paulson,
Goldman. He went out and picked
debts, mortgages and whatever
securities that he knew were
could then turn around and take
debt, and he put together a
whole thing, was a, was a, was
and Timberwolf and they and
assets. Again, that's
didn't tell investors, as I
prosecuted, but nothing came of
nothing happened to Paulson, and
billions. That's
why it's a crime. That's why
assets were going to fail, and
investors and didn't tell them
according to our own emails. I
Well, that's because the
are, you know, the good people
highly. So, you know, we. Trust.
irrespective
of the rating. It's even
rating at all. That's still a
can't tell somebody, Hey, this
conceal material information
touting the investor to. That is
happened. And no one was
deep in that he was an enabler
in any you don't want him as his
treasury secretary.
Yeah, it's very interesting
You know, I just read, you know,
about snls, and it's very
the accounting firms are more
know, it's not just the CEOs,
kickbacks and all this stuff,
created a criminal enterprise
maybe less so regulators, but I
it's, it's very disturbing that
know, being floated after, you
criminal activity to occur.
but
if you prosecute one of the
handful of them. Yeah? Once you
square, all that goes away,
seems like that's not going
think of regardless of who wins
have some insane financial
because now the corruption is
don't even know if brazen even
a level beyond a brazen at this
it's baked into the cake.
cake. And so the issue is, who,
a better deal for the criminals
sure those are the
Yeah. Are
there going? I mean, right
time of the election cycle where
teams on both sides are being
elections next month, those
formed today. Yeah,
yeah, it's wheeling and deal
what a fun season we're in.
been a pleasure having you. Are
parting advice you'd like to
what we've discussed? Any
lack of outrage despite the
criminality over the past five
reaction in oh eight I mean, I
thoughts, but I'll give the
wrap up here.
Yeah, turn off your
never,
I like that
personally, unless you're
the wonderful John Titus best
want, like a few computer,
yes, yes. Well, hey, it's
you so much. You know, I really,
it's incredibly important. This
not enough forensic, you know,
We need more of it, and I think
really appreciated the time.
going to deliver soon, and
it, but that's a story for
Perfect. So with that being
what Mark said about your great
investigations, period. And
otherwise, your voice is very
your work?
Best evidence is my YouTube.
shoot, and I have a sub stack.
And then, of course, I do a
Austin fitz@solare.com called
every Thursday night except the
However, that is a subscription
It is a subscription
a Solari subscription, it is one
around, in my humble opinion. So
considering the subscription,
opinion. Well, it's been a
Thanks to you, Mark, and for
listen, hopefully you've learned
know, criminals running our
some of the things discussed
have been listening with what to
And perhaps, you know, help them
And you know, just like John
yourself, you know, that tends
advice that isn't really
give physical things that will
whatever that means for you. If
know, we're not here to pump our
particular to the audience,
care of yourselves, given a lot
when things get hairy, it's best
some capacity. And really one of
according to people, you know,
economic collapses in Argentina,
is very important, so you don't
And I think that will hold true
next few years as well. So with
everyone. If you listen to this
share it widely. Consider
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