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Hey and welcome to unlimited

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Webb. If you are closely

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global biometric surveillance

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the Fourth Industrial

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that many of the powers building

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soft spot for digital currency.

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currently existing and in the

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the infrastructure for complete

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eradication of privacy,

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Hence the war on cash and the

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encryption and bid to label

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cryptocurrencies, is national

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so called cybercrime.

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Many of the most predatory

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Revolution technologies which

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refugees, stateless people, and

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populations involve linking

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digital currency or token as to

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hangouts next installment of our

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series. The UN specifically

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globally to financial inclusion

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currencies are necessary in

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Development to advance. While

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digital currencies are more

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cultural rift among those who at

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certain technologies and

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like blockchain and Bitcoin as a

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road towards centralized tyranny

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permanently decentralized

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specifically allegedly anyway

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2008 economic crisis and the

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banks and the criminal activity

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Bitcoiners have fought to uphold

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actors in the Bitcoin space and

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sphere are undermining this

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completely oppose the original

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creation. Among those of us who

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surveillance state. Is it still

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currencies and oppose the

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everything is a decentralized

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or increasingly becoming a pipe

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discuss these issues and more is

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director of editorial for print

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the author of several pieces

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nefarious efforts to centralize

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upcoming book entitled The

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unlimited hangout. Mark, thanks

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Thank you, Andy. It's an

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excited to talk about all these

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Well, there is definitely no

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about. Here, that's for sure.

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get into. With that being said,

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mainstream and academic articles

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crypto colonialism, or rather

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entrench and deepen Neo

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etc. So a lot of these articles.

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show notes is the article

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crypto colonialism which was

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patterns journal. Another

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which is from Vice a publication

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this article did bring up some

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conflated things they probably

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this article is entitled crypto

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vulnerable people in the world

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read a quick excerpt here. So

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partnership with an Australian

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eyebrow raising solution for

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Island at this specific ocean, I

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relief payment system that runs

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cryptocurrencies, so that when

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can still pay for essentials.

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as the disaster event happened,

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explained Pete howelsen, a

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University, who studies

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an interview, when the situation

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can be shut down, but it's not

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control the system. It's just

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when the disaster is over, and

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sovereignty. Continuing on, it

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blockchain intervention in

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and charity and aid work toward

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belief that every social problem

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programs based on blockchain and

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organizations and aid agencies

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dollars to Bitcoin will enable a

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charity system. But along with

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surveillance and political

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sovereignty and create resource

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recipients. So I'll stop there.

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conflate, you know, this Oxfam

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like the absolutely horrible and

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program of the World Food

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conflate those with a variety of

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related projects. And there's

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cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin. So

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conflation is wrong? And why?

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people who see crypto Bitcoin

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and the extended cryptocurrency

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terms of like, you know, what,

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as, as tools, like I think

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tool in the right hands and used

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perverted away from its actual

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property. And a lot of these

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decentralized in any way. So,

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know, by node runners that the

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cheap, it's internet and

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know, maybe a few 100 gigabytes

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minimal computation, whereas you

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Aetherium. And, and, you know, I

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bigger you know, entrance fee

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system. Whereas Bitcoin, you can

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the world. Really, a lot of

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currencies are really kind of

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bastardization of what Satoshi

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right, you know, Blockchain is,

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wonderful freedom tech, you

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chains, and it's like, they're

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dollars, basically, in the form

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transfer of Yeah, of like, state

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mistake it for a privacy

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some of its original use cases,

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of a black market money. You

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four years. And so we're seeing

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fast money, you want to spend it

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know, reduces this issuance. So

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for drugs, a lot of people using

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horrible things as well. I'm

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had Elizabeth Warren come out

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comparison or or something about

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the fentanyl market. Which is

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after the Sacklers. Or

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cause the crisis. Yeah,

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of fentanyl from, you know, like

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coming into into our borders. We

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on. Blockchain is ridiculous. So

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there's a false you know,

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alternative currencies that are

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privileged few that are around

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like if it's a staking system or

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issuance of currency. You know,

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banking, basically with much

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surveil, and to control and to

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a huge false connection there.

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pursued by central banks? And,

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cryptography. So everything is

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innately anything on Bitcoin is

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it requires a fee to get in the

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database. And now we have people

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group. Again, not to try to burn

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lightning labs, they were one of

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protocol, because they got sued

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else's name. But what basically

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ability to use Bitcoin, and then

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very expensive, you know, to to

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mathematical limitations to how

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we got 8 billion people or

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able to have 8 billion UTX O's.

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and scaling solutions that work

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of considered, you know, very

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earlier saying that, you know, I

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Bitcoin back banks. And, and I

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misunderstanding is that it's

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the dollar unnecessarily as a

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replace US Treasuries, as this

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reserve asset, like the dollar

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of replace all human trust. And

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necessarily possible. So like,

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banking, it's ridiculous,

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tried to do a bank, that would

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a narrow Bank, which, you know,

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economics, your economic

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these mints that are used blind

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very private. And, and we can

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the Federal Reserve, and the

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fund all of these crazy projects

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anytime it comes up, oh, shit,

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they can just issue more debt

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across the world, to Japan, to

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kind of the three biggest ones.

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destroys the bank as a general

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limits.

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I didn't, I didn't mean kill

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what you can, like, in theory,

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paying people in something, you

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right, totally. And then

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it doesn't rely on any

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whereas if you're, if you're

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Venmo, or whatever, or Google

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you're entirely up to the whim

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whereas in Bitcoin Yeah, I mean,

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that you can send trustless

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environment. And they will be

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that is the value prop of

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definitely messes with the

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Unless, you know, Bitcoiners all

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social consensus that, no, we

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base layer, we need to support

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a USD see these huge stable coin

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$80 billion. They're now coming

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rates are so high now. They're

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mean, it's ridiculous. You know,

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quarter percent on on billions

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they're holding. And now they're

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they're doing other things

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money. And so this group, yeah,

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influential in the Bitcoin

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connected to a lot of kind of

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happened, you know, there was a

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eight years ago or so that it

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200,000 Bitcoin were stolen. And

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the tether issuance. It's all

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know, of course they then did,

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to kind of make up the last that

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security and sold a bunch of it

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the person that hacked the

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Google Drive the keys in a

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like Two Gen Z kids. This this

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Khan who was like this, like,

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totally ridiculous, all this

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all the Bitcoin in her, you

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Google Doc. And so of course,

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has all that Bitcoin. And these

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you know, issuing dollars,

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ideas of putting dollars on the

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incredibly influential, just

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the spoken space of Bitcoin, you

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day, there's big influencers,

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by, you know, the stable coin,

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it. I mean, there's a lot of

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you know, in the space that, you

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everybody's a bad person or

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of those people. But also, you

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here, of dollar rising Bitcoin

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know, the biggest us, you know,

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organization in the world is the

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continue to buy debt and do this

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we're doing, yeah, it's, it's

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against the, you know, like,

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why are we doing this?

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Well, if your dollar rising

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being something that, you know,

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you're giving the Federal

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continue to have the power it

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problems of that was supposed to

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creation. Right. To Yeah, it

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So absolutely, I mean, I

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there's a good thread that, you

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very likely, you know, directly

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know, in in the first block,

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article that's like the

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second bailout for the banks.

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you know, it was announced

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launched at the start of Oh,

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think a lot of people do

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perhaps Bitcoin, you know, was

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government or the US

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a neutral base asset for the

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debasement that was coming via

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when, you know, all these CDOs

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imploded in the great financial

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proposed this theory that the

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dollar, which is an analogue to

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that, you know, when Nixon did

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the Nixon shock, took us off the

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we immediately, you know,

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and started setting up basically

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and outs of petrol and oil as a

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industrializing nations, but

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money. We want credit expansion,

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buyer to be able to buy up our

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on the ins and outs of, you

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to buy this energy commodity,

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industrialize, you got to buy

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all day, and we know we have a

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And now you have the powers

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world are right pushing us that

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new financial system. Right, but

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and so where do you see those

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would they reap from this

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Yeah, totally. I mean, to

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same mechanism. You know, you

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standard to be tied to energy,

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to source you don't want it to

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literally you can go print the

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want it to be something that if

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you know, if there's a cost it's

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to extract that energy

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standards are the gold standard

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you still have to get the gold

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requires energy. Right? Exactly.

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And so bitcoin is an energy

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its issuance requires a

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be able to submit enough

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know, have a chance of winning

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lottery every 10 minutes to see

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block and get the rewards. And

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exact same mechanism over the

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where we've, and I say we

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nothing to do with it, I want

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know, America has basically set

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outs of Bitcoin purchasing and

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over 95 I think it's even it's

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Bitcoin pairs, and trades and

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denominated, you know, tokens,

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US dollars, or these, like,

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about? And, I mean, literally,

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mean, it's like tethering itself

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create, the main difference with

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supply, and its issuance is

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zero, and then eventually

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zero. You know, in the after the

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epoch, after the 32nd happening,

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produced that will be around

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a cap supply on the actual

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it's demand it's very demand

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super, super high, and you're on

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four axes, you know, you can

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people to the mind, to mind

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more, because, you know, you can

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out because it's worth more me

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in our backyard and selling, you

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because it's worth a bajillion

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see, you know, the supply will

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high, there's so much more

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Bitcoin, it doesn't do that, it

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are trying to find the next

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produce the same amount of

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unique, you know, we've never

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capped, you know, supply, I

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that can ever be produced that's

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state change of money in a very

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that's, that's a phenomenal

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general. And that's why I am so

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understand that, you know, hey,

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we use this moment, and we seize

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basically, this kind of like

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economy of the world, you know,

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significant increase of wealth?

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the things that we're going to,

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been in Bitcoin for a while,

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like, what are we doing here?

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and let it be completely

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let the global south just get,

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and all these stupid, you know,

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whole thing of like banking the

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just charging them a fee to use

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have counterparty risk? You

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that hold paper for these stable

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last six months? And you know,

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virtue service to the global

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you know, we've created a

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by US banks. I mean, it's a

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Yeah, that's my stop, for

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about what you just said, this

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unbanked and I know that at the

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you and I both spoke s, there

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good thing, banking the unbanked

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concerns me, because it's what

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and the European Central Bank

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Reserve, say that exact same

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talking about is, you know, how

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enabling those same actors to

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monetary policy and, you know,

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predatory behavior specifically

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mean, it seems like a total mess

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that are looking to build

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right, this push to centralize

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would be this whole situation

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think is likely to win out then

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essentially a cultural rift in

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guess, been making compromises

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seeing it is all bad and needing

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the big theme of my work is that

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be thrown out. Yeah, yeah.

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100%, which is why I'm so glad

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the space because I think we

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honestly. And truthfully. And

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good people that work in all

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blah, blah, blah. Sure, of

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like it's a value judgment.

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don't realize maybe what they're

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from the whole ethos of the, you

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all of this.

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We've gotten. So we've

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think, the the cypherpunks. And

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said earlier that it's possible

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like US intelligence. And I

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possibility that absolutely

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course. And I have a whole

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John Nash, which, which

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of Santa Monica and he was

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encryption and all this, and

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connection there. But I think

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the Cypherpunk, you know,

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included how Finney and Zabo you

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know, they're basically, you

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know, coders, I think, a lot of

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back and read a lot of that

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is in the right place. And I

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Bitcoin, in my first

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like, 2014. And, you know, I

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was something that like, could

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saw it as a medium of exchange

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couple years later, but I think

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significantly in the last few

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institutions arrive. You know,

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go from being, you know,

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of Bitcoin into being this like

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literally dominating the

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dollarization of Ethereum has

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And obviously, JP Morgan, you

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From the very beginning, they

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infrastructure and Ethereum. And

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that the actual native asset,

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in stable coins than actually in

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really quick, I just want to

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Dimon who helped build Citigroup

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basically own, they do own the

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dominant force on the Federal

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also dominate the central bank

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Sorry, continue.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. I

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American banks are, you know, a

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what I'm getting at where it's

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arrived, you know, they really

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first broke, you know, 10k, and

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we saw these institutions show

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of talking shit, you know, at

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pushing it down, and now they're

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Morgan has like, jpm coin or

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you know, this huge investment

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Aetherium. So, I think the US

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know, it has a lot of choices to

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basically try to parasitically

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And I think that the Bitcoiners

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the social information more, if

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what's actually happening here,

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again, good people there, but,

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phrases is Bitcoin eyes, the

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about adding, you know, the

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it's kind of really the

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rising Bitcoin, quite literally.

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these bankers, and you brought

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like, you know, Elizabeth Stark

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consultation for the World

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August, in collaboration with

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called the future the future of

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And it's she's actually listed

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like lightning labs, I don't

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the time the lightning white

565
00:34:14,569 --> 00:34:18,342
Lightning Network hadn't even

566
00:34:18,405 --> 00:34:22,367
blockchain, or rather some big

567
00:34:22,430 --> 00:34:26,455
seg wit that allowed the ability

568
00:34:26,518 --> 00:34:30,291
that didn't actually go live

569
00:34:30,354 --> 00:34:34,001
years before lightning was even,

570
00:34:34,064 --> 00:34:37,460
workable stage. And now we're

571
00:34:37,523 --> 00:34:41,296
icebreaker came out of the BIS

572
00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:45,258
the naugus Bank and the Bank of

573
00:34:45,321 --> 00:34:49,220
and obviously, the BIS and they

574
00:34:49,283 --> 00:34:52,930
March of this year. And it's

575
00:34:52,993 --> 00:34:56,892
use domestic you know, retail

576
00:34:56,955 --> 00:35:00,917
exact same channel mechanism and

577
00:35:00,980 --> 00:35:04,438
essential part of how the

578
00:35:04,501 --> 00:35:08,275
things called HDL C's, I don't

579
00:35:08,338 --> 00:35:12,237
technical weeds, but literally,

580
00:35:12,299 --> 00:35:15,884
of consultation, you know, from

581
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:19,469
systems. And now years later,

582
00:35:19,531 --> 00:35:23,179
systems being being generated

583
00:35:23,242 --> 00:35:27,015
same probabilistic time locked

584
00:35:27,078 --> 00:35:31,166
these payment channels to enable

585
00:35:31,228 --> 00:35:34,750
is right out of the BIS. And so,

586
00:35:34,813 --> 00:35:38,398
collaboration of banker of

587
00:35:38,460 --> 00:35:42,108
people in the world with like,

588
00:35:42,171 --> 00:35:45,881
Bitcoin thought leaders, and

589
00:35:45,944 --> 00:35:49,906
what are we doing here? Not to

590
00:35:49,969 --> 00:35:53,742
but like, what are we doing

591
00:35:53,805 --> 00:35:57,390
Panopticon here? Are we trying

592
00:35:57,420 --> 00:36:00,840
Well, it's sort of reminds

593
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,780
surveillance Valley, he has a

594
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:08,160
Tor, I guess, Roger? Line,

595
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,630
collaborating, the people that

596
00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:14,010
you know, so I guess he was,

597
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,520
you know, was funded by

598
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:17,910
remember,

599
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:20,820
it might have been like,

600
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:24,150
like that. I can't, I can't

601
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:26,910
because I read it, you know,

602
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:30,270
have so much space in my brain.

603
00:36:30,270 --> 00:36:32,850
basically like, letting the Feds

604
00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:35,940
vulnerability in Tor so they

605
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:39,360
of stuff. And this is a guy that

606
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,890
funk, whatever, you know. Yeah.

607
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:45,060
acting like a fed.

608
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:49,350
Exactly. And now, we have to

609
00:36:49,350 --> 00:36:54,210
like, like, counter dissonance

610
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,010
It's huge. And it's, it's

611
00:36:59,010 --> 00:37:02,430
seeing so much of it, whether

612
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:05,520
hilarious to me that the Noam

613
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,850
because it's like, you know, I

614
00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:12,600
know, I actually literally serve

615
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:15,960
oh, it's a cookbook, apparently

616
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,350
like, how do

617
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:21,690
people like Elon Musk and

618
00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:24,180
for example, you know, being

619
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:26,670
because I'm a free speech

620
00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:30,810
freedom of speech is not freedom

621
00:37:30,810 --> 00:37:34,620
know, it's already taken the

622
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:37,620
down more posts for the

623
00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:41,220
bought it and whatever. But he

624
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:44,880
guess, like two faced persona,

625
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,780
relations produced face where

626
00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:52,470
establishment, yada, yada, yada.

627
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:55,230
side, he couldn't be more of an

628
00:37:55,230 --> 00:37:59,070
100% I feel Yeah, thing built by

629
00:37:59,130 --> 00:38:03,720
exactly military intelligence

630
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,050
everything app, which is going

631
00:38:07,050 --> 00:38:11,340
and be a huge dominant force in

632
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:16,770
And, and no, and, you know, the

633
00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:20,790
are like, Oh, this is, you know,

634
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:23,640
promoting free speech and

635
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,980
saying that, why are you

636
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:28,410
show the opposite? And it seems

637
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:31,920
like within the Bitcoin space,

638
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,850
you know, was viewed as being

639
00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:38,580
few years ago. And, you know, it

640
00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:43,290
cultural war within Bitcoin

641
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,160
fall victim to the same stuff or

642
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,360
Central Bank tyranny.

643
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:52,740
Yeah, I mean, even like Jack

644
00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:56,490
very big Bitcoin hero. And, you

645
00:38:56,490 --> 00:39:00,180
money recently into scaling

646
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:04,290
noster this kind of Twitter sort

647
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,650
this guy ran this fucking spy

648
00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:11,700
It's like, what are we, what are

649
00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:14,550
yeah, the musk stuff is kind of

650
00:39:14,580 --> 00:39:18,480
especially like, post, you know,

651
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,510
this kind of, like, strange

652
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:25,140
like, people that were, you

653
00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:28,860
during, you know, during all

654
00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:31,470
the science is unequivocal, you

655
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:34,980
be invested on cure vac and

656
00:39:34,980 --> 00:39:37,350
vaccine he showed for exactly

657
00:39:37,380 --> 00:39:40,530
like Tesla was literally

658
00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:43,710
kind of coming out as this like

659
00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:49,830
free press. You know, basically

660
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:53,670
And it's something that I've

661
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:55,770
you know, as someone who kind of

662
00:39:55,770 --> 00:39:59,760
years and you know, dealing with

663
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,550
that You know, by not choosing

664
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:05,100
you know what I had to kind of

665
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:09,660
know, like the majority of the

666
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,300
people that like were

667
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:15,960
very, you know, for it, when it

668
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:19,710
we're kind of seeing this sort

669
00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:22,470
know, this kind of controlled

670
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:24,990
at even like the political

671
00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:27,600
I mean, people are literally

672
00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:31,680
Insane, absolutely embarrassing.

673
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,110
God. But I mean, he

674
00:40:34,110 --> 00:40:36,720
So he's exactly. publicly run

675
00:40:36,989 --> 00:40:39,629
You would be the only

676
00:40:39,629 --> 00:40:41,909
elected president would have

677
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:45,330
know, like, yeah, no,

678
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,670
Okay. Actually, as I said

679
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:50,430
actually, that's completely not

680
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:53,940
was more true. But um, but yeah,

681
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:58,050
yeah, he's building this x.com

682
00:40:58,050 --> 00:41:01,260
like WeChat, USA. He controls

683
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:05,670
on WeChat are major

684
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:08,850
they're very financially

685
00:41:08,850 --> 00:41:09,360
important.

686
00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:12,810
Seems very important. And

687
00:41:12,810 --> 00:41:15,720
we're kind of cheering you know,

688
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:21,300
kill switches. Start laying. guy

689
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:21,870
have, you know,

690
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,240
Michael Hastings, anyone

691
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:27,810
I mean, I have a little

692
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:30,780
little, like, fun kind of

693
00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:33,270
literally walk down the street

694
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:35,820
charging ports and stuff, you

695
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:40,710
walking around. And again, I

696
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:43,110
Eevee in this way. Like, I think

697
00:41:43,110 --> 00:41:46,050
That's, that's really cool and

698
00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:48,750
that are being built the

699
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:52,770
colonialism, of, you know, going

700
00:41:52,770 --> 00:41:56,940
resources. And then, you know,

701
00:41:56,940 --> 00:42:01,230
stable coins that are powered on

702
00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:05,070
just like that, like, I'm sorry,

703
00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:07,620
So you want to, you know,

704
00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:11,040
like, Look at what he's

705
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,010
is one of the scariest

706
00:42:14,010 --> 00:42:17,490
itself and your children. Yeah,

707
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:21,960
really glad we did that. And,

708
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,780
absurd. And, and this control,

709
00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:29,940
everywhere. I mean, like, I

710
00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:34,830
like, the Dalai Lama was paid

711
00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:38,520
from like, the late 50s into

712
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,400
well, that's how you get like a

713
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,730
know, it's like, you know, same

714
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:49,200
like, 911 Truth and invading.

715
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,630
was like, Oh, well, we can't You

716
00:42:51,630 --> 00:42:54,450
can't this and it's just like,

717
00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:59,580
kinda like spiritual. You know,

718
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:02,820
our time. And it's like, we've

719
00:43:02,820 --> 00:43:06,090
so many times, whether it's like

720
00:43:06,090 --> 00:43:09,870
being co opted by the CIA with

721
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:12,630
culture, Shin, bah, bah, bah,

722
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:16,830
legitimate human. My point here

723
00:43:17,730 --> 00:43:21,510
be co opted in a very short

724
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:26,520
enslavement or degenerate, or

725
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,840
real beautiful, tangible thing

726
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,690
love or whatever, you know,

727
00:43:33,690 --> 00:43:36,330
into kind of what, you know,

728
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:38,370
stuff, and then kind of being

729
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:40,890
I look at those and the reason

730
00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:42,750
talk about them is because it's

731
00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:46,890
Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a state

732
00:43:46,890 --> 00:43:49,440
I can validate my own

733
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,010
without any single person in the

734
00:43:53,010 --> 00:43:55,710
intermediary, which is, which is

735
00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:58,950
incredible. But now we have

736
00:43:58,950 --> 00:44:01,770
it's like, it's ridiculous to

737
00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:04,320
consider as powerful and as

738
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,690
just left alone. It's like, no,

739
00:44:06,690 --> 00:44:11,970
can to neuter this technology,

740
00:44:11,970 --> 00:44:16,080
worst, and at best co opted in a

741
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,490
dollars life and preserves the,

742
00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:24,240
the Empire of America, you know,

743
00:44:24,689 --> 00:44:28,139
Well, let's talk about some

744
00:44:28,379 --> 00:44:31,139
with the US government as it

745
00:44:31,139 --> 00:44:33,539
everyone knows there's this big

746
00:44:33,539 --> 00:44:36,569
about you know, that with stable

747
00:44:36,569 --> 00:44:38,609
purpose of Bitcoin, you know,

748
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:41,879
Bitcoin Conference, was the

749
00:44:41,879 --> 00:44:44,879
national security threat, but

750
00:44:44,879 --> 00:44:47,759
because as we've been talking

751
00:44:47,759 --> 00:44:53,219
quote unquote, actors that are

752
00:44:53,219 --> 00:44:56,609
would those, you know,

753
00:44:56,609 --> 00:45:00,509
are very close to the

754
00:45:00,509 --> 00:45:02,789
money in Bitcoin if it's

755
00:45:02,789 --> 00:45:05,579
regulatory Hammer of some

756
00:45:05,579 --> 00:45:10,979
very interested probably those

757
00:45:10,979 --> 00:45:13,469
like there was this article in

758
00:45:13,469 --> 00:45:16,439
called why the crypto world

759
00:45:16,439 --> 00:45:20,399
crackdown. And it talks about

760
00:45:20,399 --> 00:45:23,219
make Bitcoin the regulatory

761
00:45:23,219 --> 00:45:27,959
Bitcoin you know, worth it. And,

762
00:45:27,959 --> 00:45:31,289
about this effort by the World

763
00:45:31,289 --> 00:45:34,469
against cybercrime. Westpac,

764
00:45:34,469 --> 00:45:36,689
DOJ and as you mentioned

765
00:45:36,689 --> 00:45:39,869
amount of bitcoin that they have

766
00:45:39,869 --> 00:45:43,409
essentially a Bitcoin whale that

767
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:47,879
right. And they in Westpac,

768
00:45:47,879 --> 00:45:53,999
part of, they say that Bitcoin

769
00:45:53,999 --> 00:45:57,659
Bitcoin transactions to take

770
00:45:57,659 --> 00:46:00,809
or increased financial privacy

771
00:46:00,809 --> 00:46:04,889
that has to be eliminated. But

772
00:46:04,889 --> 00:46:08,909
guess I'm telling would be

773
00:46:08,909 --> 00:46:12,839
down by these guys. The value of

774
00:46:12,839 --> 00:46:16,739
be devalued to stop, quote,

775
00:46:16,739 --> 00:46:21,389
cybercrime. So there's a bunch

776
00:46:21,419 --> 00:46:24,569
there, right. And I personally

777
00:46:24,569 --> 00:46:29,069
aren't wise to that. And the

778
00:46:29,069 --> 00:46:31,949
sort of privacy enhancing

779
00:46:31,949 --> 00:46:34,709
aren't exclusive to Bitcoin,

780
00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:37,529
example. I mean, Bill Barr, on

781
00:46:37,529 --> 00:46:41,129
the total Warpath, against

782
00:46:41,129 --> 00:46:44,699
backdoor for the the DOJ and the

783
00:46:44,699 --> 00:46:48,719
encrypted. You know, not

784
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,479
messaging and stuff like that,

785
00:46:51,479 --> 00:46:56,999
effort to secure complete

786
00:46:57,059 --> 00:46:59,789
at the same time the same actors

787
00:46:59,789 --> 00:47:04,289
everyone online for everything.

788
00:47:04,289 --> 00:47:09,179
really disturbing. And so, I

789
00:47:09,209 --> 00:47:12,239
you know, this war going on

790
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,409
that I guess have maybe at some

791
00:47:16,409 --> 00:47:20,069
and are going to let Bitcoin be

792
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:25,349
are people like yourself, who

793
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:29,009
increased centralized control,

794
00:47:29,339 --> 00:47:32,909
for those purposes are about or,

795
00:47:32,909 --> 00:47:35,639
criminalize that. Is there

796
00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:37,319
As it relates to that?

797
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:40,980
Yeah, I mean, I think just

798
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:46,080
I think there are so many ways

799
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,710
very significant way and enrich

800
00:47:49,710 --> 00:47:54,480
Bitcoin holders, and it actually

801
00:47:55,710 --> 00:47:59,880
shitty for everybody that's ever

802
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:05,700
issue with the dollar system is

803
00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:08,730
it is obfuscated, like we don't

804
00:48:08,730 --> 00:48:12,000
changes are made, we aren't

805
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,990
meetings that they vote on, you

806
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:19,800
issuance, or any of these

807
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,620
of people I think, are just

808
00:48:22,620 --> 00:48:26,130
economic realities of Bitcoin

809
00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:31,920
they're just at all costs, they

810
00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:34,530
criminality of it is really

811
00:48:34,530 --> 00:48:37,950
they're sort of self admitting

812
00:48:37,950 --> 00:48:41,850
while also trying to downplay

813
00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:44,730
and it's it's not important, and

814
00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:48,090
but they're also like, putting

815
00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,730
that it's like very powerful and

816
00:48:51,180 --> 00:48:54,150
traffickers and cybercrime, and

817
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:56,640
they're kind of like, I don't

818
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,770
dialectics are here. It seems

819
00:49:01,770 --> 00:49:07,020
attention to both sides of of

820
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:10,290
haven't really thought too much

821
00:49:10,290 --> 00:49:13,530
of Bitcoin, because I don't

822
00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:17,670
think it's too helpful for the

823
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:22,980
to, you know, to sort of

824
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:27,420
ways, and really control the ins

825
00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:31,320
a lot of control over the actual

826
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,860
subsidize mining. And they're

827
00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:38,700
getting some OFAC compliance

828
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:41,130
and transaction construction,

829
00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:44,640
subsidize with dollars, which of

830
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,710
this happen a bunch of times

831
00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:52,230
operations, these mining

832
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:55,800
companies that have mined 1000s

833
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,100
they filed chapter 11 You go to

834
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:04,350
imploded, you know, 199% And

835
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:07,650
And it's like, Well, where did

836
00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:10,890
how did that How did that even

837
00:50:10,890 --> 00:50:14,580
or Aluna like some of these,

838
00:50:14,730 --> 00:50:17,250
you know, very likely government

839
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:21,210
participated in businesses. And

840
00:50:21,210 --> 00:50:23,520
comes, it's like, there's no

841
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,640
well, where's this Bitcoin all

842
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,580
of it, you can see a lot of it

843
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:33,990
like 30,000, Bitcoin or market

844
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:37,560
imploded, which was an

845
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,810
was something that, you know,

846
00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:46,290
triggered by a knowing party. So

847
00:50:46,290 --> 00:50:51,210
for CO option on the ins and

848
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:53,640
you know, sort of, you know, the

849
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,550
crushing tax demand, it's like,

850
00:50:56,550 --> 00:50:59,670
capital gains tax rates go up,

851
00:50:59,670 --> 00:51:04,140
after using this KYC, this know,

852
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:06,900
they've control the onramps,

853
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,720
again, it's an open ledger, they

854
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:13,080
everything, I can go look at,

855
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:15,960
wallets, and see where money's

856
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,110
exchanges, look at the lunar

857
00:51:19,110 --> 00:51:21,480
stuff, you can kind of piece it

858
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,100
there's so much, you know, ripe

859
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:30,780
like chain analysis, and these

860
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:34,890
know, adversaries on the network

861
00:51:34,890 --> 00:51:40,320
together, you know, so much,

862
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,130
your economic activity, if you

863
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,600
acknowledgement of a Bitcoin

864
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,840
do you do that, you know, you

865
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,530
Bitcoin payments to Twitter for

866
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:58,560
you get people, you know, doing

867
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,770
so many ways you can kind of

868
00:52:01,950 --> 00:52:05,790
expose their UTX O's or their

869
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:08,730
public way. People tweet about

870
00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:11,250
conferences, take pictures, they

871
00:52:11,250 --> 00:52:14,970
much they have a talk about a

872
00:52:14,970 --> 00:52:18,990
kind of, yeah, like, I think

873
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:22,080
very clearly the powers that be

874
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,440
There's a lot of public speakers

875
00:52:25,470 --> 00:52:28,920
not good faith actors. But I

876
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,370
silent. And they're kind of just

877
00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:35,760
themselves in the foot all over

878
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,670
that we've already won, and this

879
00:52:38,670 --> 00:52:42,180
private. And this is a big issue

880
00:52:42,180 --> 00:52:45,420
people in the Bitcoin space

881
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:48,210
surveillance, like, you know,

882
00:52:48,210 --> 00:52:50,820
that everything on Bitcoin or

883
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:55,560
is private. And it's just simply

884
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,760
adversary in this open topology

885
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,810
nodes and can really get a very

886
00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:06,450
you have, and what you're

887
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:09,960
locked in a lightning channel.

888
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,450
metadata rules, everything

889
00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:16,680
it's just, we know, Vault seven,

890
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,060
on us, we know that they have

891
00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:21,660
networks,

892
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:24,480
and they can frame any

893
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,180
attack. And absolutely, well,

894
00:53:27,210 --> 00:53:29,730
absolutely. And also, you

895
00:53:29,730 --> 00:53:32,730
back to some of the lockdown

896
00:53:32,730 --> 00:53:36,960
people literally were getting

897
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,160
security numbers to, you know,

898
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,830
health organizations, or people

899
00:53:43,830 --> 00:53:46,770
it's like, okay, now all these

900
00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:49,890
have DNA data associated with

901
00:53:49,890 --> 00:53:53,850
now we have you on Twitter,

902
00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:58,470
or posting a receipt of you

903
00:53:58,470 --> 00:54:01,680
can triangulate that stuff so

904
00:54:02,190 --> 00:54:06,420
There's so much like, it's such

905
00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:08,700
though we've matured a lot in

906
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:14,130
years. But there's so much young

907
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:17,190
implications, the future

908
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:20,820
you shouldn't, you know, you

909
00:54:20,820 --> 00:54:23,370
stack this amount I did this,

910
00:54:23,370 --> 00:54:27,030
could be a life changing amount

911
00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:31,080
timestamps of yourself saying

912
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,550
think that there's just so much,

913
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:39,390
picked that that I think a lot

914
00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:42,870
to fruition for a few years. But

915
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:46,560
going to be really surprised at

916
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,370
leaked. Probably myself

917
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:51,060
know, I mean,

918
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:56,250
yeah, well, I wasn't saying

919
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:59,610
guess what I was trying to say

920
00:54:59,610 --> 00:55:02,340
they're trying to criminalize

921
00:55:02,340 --> 00:55:04,740
What they're trying to

922
00:55:04,740 --> 00:55:07,650
afford Bitcoin transactions

923
00:55:07,650 --> 00:55:11,220
financial anonymity? Yeah,

924
00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:13,890
allowed to exist, but really

925
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,020
dollar paradigm that you're

926
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:18,690
really a Bitcoin digital dollar

927
00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:19,500
dollars going,

928
00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:21,780
right? Yeah. 100% No, and I

929
00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:24,330
kind of what I was trying to say

930
00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:28,860
going to allow Bitcoin to exist,

931
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:32,730
know, you're gonna have to

932
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,770
I mean, they're already places

933
00:55:34,770 --> 00:55:39,360
exchanges that require a live

934
00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:42,870
turning your, your, you know,

935
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:46,980
phone, and taking a 3d, you

936
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:50,700
to be able to withdraw your

937
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:54,720
It's just, you know, kind of

938
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,780
of the huge, huge, huge

939
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:00,270
to continue to happen. I mean,

940
00:56:00,270 --> 00:56:03,690
crazier as they are getting more

941
00:56:03,690 --> 00:56:06,330
that's kind of the reality of

942
00:56:06,330 --> 00:56:08,850
the government can't pay for

943
00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:11,610
uphold the debt of the dollar

944
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:16,590
That's sort of a point of no

945
00:56:16,590 --> 00:56:20,100
as much capital gains taxes as

946
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,510
some crazy shit, I think.

947
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:24,810
Yeah, well, it's really

948
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,440
you had the FBI, I think they

949
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:31,650
eight crypto exchanges, they

950
00:56:31,650 --> 00:56:36,330
Customer stuff enough. They were

951
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,920
like giving, giving their users

952
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,960
exchanging crypto for for other

953
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,600
they're already going after the

954
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,450
this. And you know, living in

955
00:56:51,450 --> 00:56:54,270
crypto here, but the only crypto

956
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:58,170
right to like, upload your face,

957
00:56:58,170 --> 00:57:03,210
there is a big push for all of

958
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:07,710
definitely unsettling to say the

959
00:57:07,710 --> 00:57:10,230
think you someone you know,

960
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:15,030
have, if bitcoin is sort of

961
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:16,380
continue to hold and use it?

962
00:57:17,850 --> 00:57:23,280
Yeah, I would. Because I

963
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,900
you know, what it offers is a

964
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:30,810
even if it's completely

965
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,800
and the on ramps and off ramps,

966
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,960
basically all the actors were

967
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,450
that the it is a disinflationary

968
00:57:45,450 --> 00:57:49,410
a deflationary monetary policy

969
00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:52,890
it is entirely used, which is a

970
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:57,510
Bitcoin is that it is used as a

971
00:57:57,510 --> 00:58:00,510
banks, and that the actual price

972
00:58:00,510 --> 00:58:05,580
transaction priced in Bitcoin is

973
00:58:05,580 --> 00:58:08,280
know, a day's wage of minimum

974
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,750
possible that we may just price

975
00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:15,540
citizens of being able to

976
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:19,740
because of the monetization of

977
00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:23,760
is it still limits the the

978
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,900
pardoning special privilege from

979
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,930
the ins and outs, even if

980
00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:34,260
rising the dollar or dollar

981
00:58:34,260 --> 00:58:39,240
it's still limits their ability

982
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:45,330
ability between central banks to

983
00:58:45,330 --> 00:58:48,870
reserves, right, it's, it's

984
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:51,990
even if it is very co opted, and

985
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:56,040
dollarized it still is an

986
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,000
still support. I would probably

987
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,250
in the Bitcoin space, I probably

988
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,630
other kinds of privacy tools and

989
00:59:09,630 --> 00:59:12,180
alternative currencies. I don't

990
00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:15,480
value and any other

991
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,320
Bitcoin, I really, truly believe

992
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,230
be like less excited about it.

993
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:24,900
think that thesis is still

994
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:29,910
change and it is a net good for

995
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:34,170
again, it's a tool and tools can

996
00:59:34,170 --> 00:59:39,570
they can be used to free people.

997
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,740
go to that. And I'm obviously

998
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,490
you're trying to get the Bitcoin

999
00:59:47,850 --> 00:59:52,410
and realize that it's actually

1000
00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:55,710
likely, it's about 5050 right

1001
00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:58,050
outcome. I really think that and

1002
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,000
well, I think it's worth

1003
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,330
Personally, I agree is, you

1004
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,020
It's Wait,

1005
01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:07,380
why? Why would you want to

1006
01:00:07,380 --> 01:00:10,320
invested a lot of time and money

1007
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,500
system? And then, you know, then

1008
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:16,110
supporting that slavery system

1009
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,690
time and money you put into it,

1010
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:22,950
Yeah, no, true. Yeah, it's

1011
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:29,160
to an end. And without that, and

1012
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,050
it's not just to make a bunch of

1013
01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:36,150
care. That's kind of happened to

1014
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:39,630
unfulfilling, and I don't really

1015
01:00:40,050 --> 01:00:44,880
our kids, kids. And, you know,

1016
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,100
don't even really intend to

1017
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:51,360
at all, other than to build

1018
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,190
know, magazines and printing

1019
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:59,760
studio equipment and all the

1020
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,750
want to build. You know, yeah,

1021
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:06,270
the human race. And I think

1022
01:01:06,270 --> 01:01:08,700
exceptionally long time. They've

1023
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:12,870
perverted our you know, they

1024
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:15,330
connect with with each other in

1025
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:20,880
And Bitcoin can, like exacerbate

1026
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,980
really limit all that. So yeah,

1027
01:01:25,980 --> 01:01:27,810
burn the bridges, why would I

1028
01:01:27,810 --> 01:01:32,700
people anyway? And, yeah, it's

1029
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:35,250
important that we get this

1030
01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:40,770
within, you know, the, there's

1031
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:43,050
even left to be issued, you

1032
01:01:43,050 --> 01:01:46,830
Bitcoin is owned and held by

1033
01:01:46,830 --> 01:01:49,320
distributed, it's not an

1034
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,460
rely on yield. Or rely on

1035
01:01:53,460 --> 01:01:57,120
have to spend it if you want to,

1036
01:01:57,150 --> 01:02:01,320
which is great. So we're in this

1037
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,040
know, 20 years of Bitcoin, where

1038
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,070
Bitcoin will be issued. And

1039
01:02:08,070 --> 01:02:12,300
where we actually can make

1040
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:14,970
push back on the counter

1041
01:02:14,970 --> 01:02:20,880
dollarization and not just

1042
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,600
have these absolute freaks

1043
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,420
know, we actually have an

1044
01:02:27,420 --> 01:02:31,170
get a shot at the beasts neck

1045
01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:36,180
entirely on us. And I really

1046
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:39,810
think there are enough really

1047
01:02:39,810 --> 01:02:45,330
have the time and the talent to

1048
01:02:45,330 --> 01:02:48,150
situations. And to deal with

1049
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:52,110
have some incredible stuff

1050
01:02:52,110 --> 01:02:56,850
was this invention by David

1051
01:02:56,850 --> 01:02:59,730
had this paper about using blind

1052
01:02:59,730 --> 01:03:02,970
perfect privacy are entirely

1053
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:06,060
And now we can use Bitcoin to

1054
01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:09,780
these mints. And we can whip

1055
01:03:09,810 --> 01:03:12,390
you know, that we can create our

1056
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:16,770
mints, you know, at a whim, and

1057
01:03:16,770 --> 01:03:19,710
decentralized Whack a Mole where

1058
01:03:19,710 --> 01:03:22,800
identified that this person is a

1059
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,650
state. Well, you can whack them,

1060
01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:29,520
pop up when you do that. And

1061
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,860
what we have to do. We have to

1062
01:03:34,860 --> 01:03:38,820
realize that, you know, we have

1063
01:03:38,850 --> 01:03:41,310
And we need to spend our money

1064
01:03:41,310 --> 01:03:45,060
mouth is, or whatever that

1065
01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:47,490
about it while we still have a

1066
01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:50,130
continue to let Bitcoin be

1067
01:03:50,130 --> 01:03:52,530
given up our one chance and not

1068
01:03:52,530 --> 01:03:56,640
chance, we've extended the life

1069
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,680
that's why I've been Yeah,

1070
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,310
dollar thing, because and I

1071
01:04:02,310 --> 01:04:07,650
we've seen, you know, stablecoin

1072
01:04:07,650 --> 01:04:11,550
them tweet out about how Israeli

1073
01:04:11,550 --> 01:04:16,230
me up. And you know, this guy

1074
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:19,320
found, you know, drowned in the

1075
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,190
his clothes on, you know, a few

1076
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:26,850
his creation voted as a

1077
01:04:26,850 --> 01:04:31,800
billion dollars into Coinbase of

1078
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:35,640
wonderful Julian Assange piece

1079
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,010
conspiracies governance, which

1080
01:04:38,010 --> 01:04:41,250
that, you know, you're in this

1081
01:04:41,250 --> 01:04:44,460
talks about sort of identifying

1082
01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:48,000
you do it is you just put pins

1083
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,250
you're kind of looking at, and

1084
01:04:50,250 --> 01:04:53,160
attach all the points and you

1085
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,160
necessarily know how they're

1086
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,770
this kind of map that you've

1087
01:04:58,770 --> 01:05:01,440
Bitcoin space right now out and

1088
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,960
Galeon dialectics of what we're

1089
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:10,470
this huge push towards KYC

1090
01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:15,840
networks and in exchanges, and

1091
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,980
people, like these, they're

1092
01:05:20,010 --> 01:05:24,030
exchanges and stable coins. And,

1093
01:05:24,030 --> 01:05:29,760
ridiculous. So, yeah, that was a

1094
01:05:29,850 --> 01:05:33,420
no, I think it was, I think

1095
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:36,060
quick, I just want to say, you

1096
01:05:36,060 --> 01:05:39,240
you already know, this mark, I

1097
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,000
on Bitcoin, because I don't

1098
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,640
use my platform to tell people

1099
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,060
think that's a really personal

1100
01:05:48,060 --> 01:05:51,750
the same time, you know, I do

1101
01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:54,420
Bitcoiners, like yourself,

1102
01:05:54,420 --> 01:05:58,050
some sort of parallel system. So

1103
01:05:58,050 --> 01:06:00,720
we're being herded into? And

1104
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,720
like that is necessary. So

1105
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,800
not a lot, but I mean, you know,

1106
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,600
on you know, anyone involved in

1107
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:17,310
inherently implicit, and

1108
01:06:17,310 --> 01:06:20,490
know, I know people, you know,

1109
01:06:20,490 --> 01:06:23,550
sort of decentralized tech,

1110
01:06:23,580 --> 01:06:26,370
on some sort of D Googled

1111
01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:28,920
continue using a smartphone or

1112
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,760
apple and Windows operating

1113
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,320
all of that. But it's, you know,

1114
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,750
we're going to be faced with

1115
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:43,590
about how much we enable the

1116
01:06:43,590 --> 01:06:49,170
personally, you know, if bitcoin

1117
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,870
Central Bank's I don't really

1118
01:06:51,870 --> 01:06:53,910
mean, I understand why you're

1119
01:06:54,270 --> 01:06:57,300
technology and how you feel

1120
01:06:57,330 --> 01:07:00,690
that's within it, but you know,

1121
01:07:00,690 --> 01:07:05,490
use those on an off ramps

1122
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,100
same kind of behavior that

1123
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:11,550
you know, I would just probably

1124
01:07:11,550 --> 01:07:15,150
would just sit there, you know,

1125
01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:16,200
off ramps. Right.

1126
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:20,040
So yeah, I agree with you, I

1127
01:07:20,460 --> 01:07:25,050
when, you know, we, you know,

1128
01:07:25,050 --> 01:07:27,420
who I think is very, very smart

1129
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:31,680
morning's beauty on who is he

1130
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,970
idea is, you know, he has this

1131
01:07:35,970 --> 01:07:39,000
again, ethical is obviously a

1132
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,530
people to do bullshit all the

1133
01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:47,280
there are alternatives, there

1134
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:50,310
There are exchanges that don't

1135
01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:53,430
peer to peer exchanges, go to

1136
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:57,510
miner, give them cash, buy

1137
01:07:57,510 --> 01:08:01,020
there's a lot of alternative

1138
01:08:01,020 --> 01:08:04,740
the, the, the, you know, kind of

1139
01:08:04,740 --> 01:08:08,430
of Bitcoin. And those are the

1140
01:08:08,430 --> 01:08:11,730
need to reject any of the

1141
01:08:11,730 --> 01:08:15,420
using a system that supports

1142
01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:19,320
a system that is buying

1143
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,910
doing? And so I don't use any of

1144
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:27,780
converted a lot of my thinking

1145
01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:30,330
that, you know, as like, as I

1146
01:08:30,330 --> 01:08:33,120
going on, and it's like, ya

1147
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:37,020
not, like, promote these

1148
01:08:37,050 --> 01:08:39,150
you know, getting the greatest

1149
01:08:39,150 --> 01:08:45,780
world. And so yeah, I agree with

1150
01:08:45,780 --> 01:08:48,660
don't want to imagine a world

1151
01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:51,030
sometimes it's hard for me to

1152
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:54,240
it did happen, because I'm so so

1153
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,880
sure that that doesn't happen.

1154
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,430
there's an opposite. There's

1155
01:08:59,430 --> 01:09:02,100
future where I think that, you

1156
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:06,330
failed. Its its its mission of

1157
01:09:06,330 --> 01:09:11,970
power. It is possible, at least

1158
01:09:11,970 --> 01:09:16,200
that could happen in our

1159
01:09:16,260 --> 01:09:19,890
definitely think so that no

1160
01:09:19,890 --> 01:09:23,640
is a multi 100 year experiment,

1161
01:09:24,930 --> 01:09:27,510
Something like that. It doesn't

1162
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:31,560
don't see any of that shit going

1163
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,730
should say. But I think

1164
01:09:35,730 --> 01:09:40,680
money is so important that it is

1165
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,240
even if it's completely

1166
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,380
ways until the state power can

1167
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:52,530
hope that's not naive of me but

1168
01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:56,700
it is exceptionally important

1169
01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:00,330
shit. It's an open ledger and

1170
01:10:00,330 --> 01:10:02,730
Ron, but, you know, some of the

1171
01:10:02,730 --> 01:10:07,230
entire space are some of the

1172
01:10:07,230 --> 01:10:09,810
there's there's a whole bunch of

1173
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:12,780
politicians jumping out now and

1174
01:10:13,650 --> 01:10:16,140
you know, it's becoming one of

1175
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,940
And you know, a bunch of bad

1176
01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:24,540
Bitcoin has to be for enemies.

1177
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:28,500
be for friends, you know, and we

1178
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:32,010
that ability for anyone to be

1179
01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:35,130
anyone is becomes a gatekeeper

1180
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,520
transaction on Bitcoin, the

1181
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,220
unfortunately, we sort of have

1182
01:10:41,220 --> 01:10:43,800
central banks are going to be

1183
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,260
is gonna be able to use this and

1184
01:10:46,260 --> 01:10:50,070
a bunch of his money in Bitcoin.

1185
01:10:50,370 --> 01:10:53,880
likelihood that, you know, the

1186
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,050
of blackmail group was like

1187
01:10:58,050 --> 01:11:02,430
a great conspiracy that, you

1188
01:11:02,430 --> 01:11:06,630
power mod on on Reddit, and was

1189
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:10,500
other things under this user

1190
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:13,740
thing she posted about, or this

1191
01:11:13,740 --> 01:11:16,050
stopped posting the day that she

1192
01:11:16,050 --> 01:11:19,260
since. And it was the number one

1193
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:22,770
that day, posted about Bitcoin,

1194
01:11:22,770 --> 01:11:25,050
they posted about so you know,

1195
01:11:25,050 --> 01:11:29,160
with Bitcoin to a lot of shitty

1196
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,490
unfortunately, an endorsement in

1197
01:11:32,490 --> 01:11:37,410
powerful this technology is. We

1198
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:40,770
wake up and don't let it just,

1199
01:11:40,770 --> 01:11:41,250
corrupted.

1200
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,430
Well, on that last point,

1201
01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:47,790
for regulating Bitcoin in the

1202
01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:50,400
privacy is to stop money

1203
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,660
stuff. But of course, these guys

1204
01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:57,720
very big into money laundering.

1205
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,510
the ones using it for that more

1206
01:12:00,510 --> 01:12:00,810
just,

1207
01:12:01,770 --> 01:12:04,800
I mean, Jamie Dimon or JP

1208
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,200
criminality of Bitcoin is

1209
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,040
caught like with like, you know,

1210
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:16,230
on their, on their, you know,

1211
01:12:16,230 --> 01:12:18,810
shipping container, you know,

1212
01:12:18,810 --> 01:12:21,660
they're literally banking, sex

1213
01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:24,840
traffickers. And then obviously

1214
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,480
other ridiculous things they're

1215
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:31,140
ridiculous for literally literal

1216
01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:34,950
supporters and enablers to come

1217
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:37,440
technology that enables

1218
01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:41,490
Sure, of course it does. But

1219
01:12:41,490 --> 01:12:44,490
there's probably no one more

1220
01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:47,970
and safety of the US dollar,

1221
01:12:47,970 --> 01:12:50,820
know, I mean, like, he really

1222
01:12:50,820 --> 01:12:55,650
of ways. And so yeah, I think

1223
01:12:55,650 --> 01:12:59,100
also having, you know, an

1224
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,500
this weird kind of endorsement

1225
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,920
obviously, when compared to the

1226
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,100
right,

1227
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,080
so we've talked a lot about

1228
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,750
stable coins a lot. So I want to

1229
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:12,510
Because in the course of our

1230
01:13:12,510 --> 01:13:15,600
explained a lot about Bitcoin

1231
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,210
terms are maybe for people that

1232
01:13:18,210 --> 01:13:22,080
about it. But maybe people know

1233
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,710
coins. So why don't you if

1234
01:13:25,710 --> 01:13:29,790
know, sort of what stable coins

1235
01:13:29,790 --> 01:13:32,610
problematic. And then I want to

1236
01:13:32,610 --> 01:13:36,630
stuff tied up with stable coins.

1237
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:40,410
Yeah, totally, totally. I

1238
01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:43,830
Hole is really intense, because

1239
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:47,190
worst of, of, of all the things

1240
01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:52,890
system, with like, ridiculous

1241
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,280
a bunch of issues that we have.

1242
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,120
short, a stable coin. You know,

1243
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,420
ridiculous. There's nothing

1244
01:14:03,420 --> 01:14:06,330
reason why they're called stable

1245
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,360
and again, this is sort of, you

1246
01:14:09,540 --> 01:14:14,040
as opposed to Bitcoin, which is

1247
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,680
of its value in a year and yada

1248
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,250
true. But over long timeframes,

1249
01:14:20,250 --> 01:14:26,310
asset ever. So it was they were

1250
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:29,940
know, directly, you know,

1251
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:35,880
as a way to give dollar access.

1252
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,000
might have heard of the Euro

1253
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,020
was a system of dollars that

1254
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:48,510
exchanged entirely outside of

1255
01:14:48,510 --> 01:14:52,830
were kind of set up with this

1256
01:14:52,830 --> 01:14:56,880
Interbank overnight rate. There

1257
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,350
Europe, I think like 12 or 11

1258
01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:05,130
which was JP Morgan, of course.

1259
01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:07,170
being able to control this

1260
01:15:07,170 --> 01:15:12,450
really out of the purview of the

1261
01:15:12,450 --> 01:15:14,850
of the reasons why you raise

1262
01:15:14,850 --> 01:15:18,180
raised interest rates so much as

1263
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:20,190
can think of it as the higher

1264
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:23,130
interest there is in being in

1265
01:15:23,130 --> 01:15:27,420
basically bribing you with yield

1266
01:15:27,420 --> 01:15:31,920
value in our system and buy our

1267
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:36,930
know, started jacking up

1268
01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:40,470
of combat this offshore dollar

1269
01:15:40,470 --> 01:15:45,840
purview of the Fed. And so

1270
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:50,100
you know, the technological

1271
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:54,030
market which allowed but this

1272
01:15:54,030 --> 01:15:59,010
entities potentially that are

1273
01:15:59,010 --> 01:16:01,380
coalition are kind of like the

1274
01:16:03,060 --> 01:16:05,070
Oh, definitely. Yeah,

1275
01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:07,980
I mean, of course, and

1276
01:16:07,980 --> 01:16:11,610
reason why all these you know,

1277
01:16:11,610 --> 01:16:16,830
providers are all you know, kind

1278
01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:21,210
Bermuda Triangle Bahamas Island

1279
01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:25,920
see so much of you know, this

1280
01:16:25,950 --> 01:16:30,510
yeah, yeah, yeah. Like like the

1281
01:16:30,510 --> 01:16:33,690
state thing and they live on all

1282
01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:36,570
know, kind of, you know, the law

1283
01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:40,020
maritime Admiralty bullshit. And

1284
01:16:40,020 --> 01:16:43,080
own laws island by island. I'm

1285
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,810
just ridiculousness going on

1286
01:16:45,810 --> 01:16:49,380
yeah, that's why we see SPF, you

1287
01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:52,380
Bahamas, the first cbdc in the

1288
01:16:52,380 --> 01:16:55,920
Bahamas, the sand dollar, which

1289
01:16:56,190 --> 01:16:59,400
reserve currency, which is

1290
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,940
dollar anyway, so the first US

1291
01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:06,900
Bahamas. So yeah, we're seeing

1292
01:17:06,900 --> 01:17:09,840
again, long and short. It's it's

1293
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,850
representation of $1 that is

1294
01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:19,470
theoretically, for paper money,

1295
01:17:19,470 --> 01:17:24,120
in a bank account, via the

1296
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:29,160
are tether, which again, is that

1297
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:34,350
know, they were connected with

1298
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:38,790
maybe, in my opinion, we'll

1299
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:39,360
Fellas

1300
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,150
say that, yeah. also

1301
01:17:42,150 --> 01:17:45,090
another huge affinity scam that

1302
01:17:45,090 --> 01:17:49,650
all time. That was about 190

1303
01:17:49,650 --> 01:17:53,520
bitcoins stolen, you know, with

1304
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,580
this, like alternative, you

1305
01:17:56,610 --> 01:17:59,010
you know, same bullshit as

1306
01:17:59,010 --> 01:18:03,120
all these things. And, you know,

1307
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,780
all, you know, they were banked

1308
01:18:06,780 --> 01:18:09,150
Bahamas, they got a tiny slap on

1309
01:18:09,150 --> 01:18:13,530
520 $5 million, or something was

1310
01:18:13,530 --> 01:18:17,490
know, billions and billions. So,

1311
01:18:17,490 --> 01:18:22,140
the system and this technology

1312
01:18:22,140 --> 01:18:25,080
washed and sort of virtue

1313
01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:28,860
systemically important to the

1314
01:18:28,860 --> 01:18:31,830
allowing, you know, third world

1315
01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:36,960
Indonesia, and Africa, and, you

1316
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,190
Asian sees, and it's kind of

1317
01:18:41,190 --> 01:18:45,870
people to Bitcoin, because it's

1318
01:18:45,930 --> 01:18:49,860
you know, like, Venezuelan

1319
01:18:49,980 --> 01:18:53,220
Argentinian inflation is so

1320
01:18:53,220 --> 01:18:56,340
such a beautiful thing for them

1321
01:18:56,340 --> 01:18:59,670
really wish these people had

1322
01:18:59,670 --> 01:19:03,570
a better technological tool than

1323
01:19:03,570 --> 01:19:10,620
become this totally ridiculous

1324
01:19:11,010 --> 01:19:15,390
it's seen as both an alternative

1325
01:19:15,390 --> 01:19:17,670
because it's not government

1326
01:19:17,670 --> 01:19:19,890
of people that are like, only

1327
01:19:19,890 --> 01:19:22,980
able to issue money and Bitcoin

1328
01:19:22,980 --> 01:19:28,560
coins are, it's like, well,

1329
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:29,760
yeah, so we're still depends

1330
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,040
on how people view money, I

1331
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,030
that distinction.

1332
01:19:33,450 --> 01:19:36,840
Yeah, totally, totally. And

1333
01:19:36,870 --> 01:19:41,970
Cambrian explosion of quote,

1334
01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:46,260
in the stable coin space.

1335
01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:50,460
opinion with the Facebook's

1336
01:19:50,670 --> 01:19:55,080
making a basket of currencies

1337
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,970
know, through Facebook, Facebook

1338
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,900
like not a one to one stable

1339
01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:06,450
you could exchange it for $1.

1340
01:20:06,450 --> 01:20:10,830
basket of currencies, I'm sure

1341
01:20:11,070 --> 01:20:17,220
probably the pound, and then

1342
01:20:17,220 --> 01:20:21,330
when that came out, you know,

1343
01:20:21,330 --> 01:20:23,910
government officials kind of

1344
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:26,850
is gonna threaten the dollar,

1345
01:20:26,850 --> 01:20:31,050
feign this, like, you know,

1346
01:20:31,050 --> 01:20:34,530
with, with Facebook pushing this

1347
01:20:34,530 --> 01:20:38,400
was going to undermine the

1348
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,090
was going to dollarized the

1349
01:20:42,090 --> 01:20:47,670
put billions of people onto the

1350
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:51,900
China actually realize this, and

1351
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:55,590
knee jerk reaction to the Libra

1352
01:20:55,590 --> 01:21:00,480
they launched their cbdc Like

1353
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:03,270
know, announcement, the Libra

1354
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,850
know, changed names became DM

1355
01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:11,550
shuttered. That guy that was

1356
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:15,690
These now runs light Spark,

1357
01:21:16,770 --> 01:21:20,490
you know, program, we're seeing

1358
01:21:20,490 --> 01:21:24,690
and dollar people kind of

1359
01:21:24,690 --> 01:21:27,270
lightning space, all of a sudden

1360
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:32,010
stable coins, believe it or not.

1361
01:21:32,010 --> 01:21:39,450
I know. And keep burning

1362
01:21:39,450 --> 01:21:44,250
technology that is supposed to

1363
01:21:44,250 --> 01:21:49,170
stability. And this idea of, you

1364
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:52,920
in direct opposition to Bitcoin,

1365
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,160
it's a bunch of bullshit. I

1366
01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:02,430
issuance, you're you're relying

1367
01:22:02,430 --> 01:22:06,180
service provider to not take

1368
01:22:06,180 --> 01:22:10,440
printer that you've given them.

1369
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:14,910
to print tokens. And they're

1370
01:22:14,910 --> 01:22:19,920
monitored in any sort of

1371
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,300
sort of pushed off shore

1372
01:22:24,300 --> 01:22:27,720
now being in kind of this

1373
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,410
actually even know literally,

1374
01:22:31,410 --> 01:22:35,670
moment. But they're out of the

1375
01:22:35,670 --> 01:22:39,270
legally, anyway. But yeah, it's

1376
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:43,650
affinity scam to create consent

1377
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,740
and to create this kind of

1378
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:51,180
technologists and freedom

1379
01:22:51,180 --> 01:22:55,470
supporting the dollarization of

1380
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:59,220
they're doing is making the

1381
01:22:59,220 --> 01:23:05,640
select few bankers and stable

1382
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:09,780
hurting the world and really

1383
01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:12,810
super high monetary velocity,

1384
01:23:12,810 --> 01:23:17,310
exchanged incredibly quickly.

1385
01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:20,580
technically, in that if you just

1386
01:23:20,580 --> 01:23:23,790
know, you you can go spend them

1387
01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:27,420
this, but they rely on you

1388
01:23:27,420 --> 01:23:30,840
Aetherium rails, they rely on

1389
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,830
of these rails have these just

1390
01:23:34,830 --> 01:23:40,230
banker constructed alternative

1391
01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:44,250
is going up to just the worst

1392
01:23:44,250 --> 01:23:48,630
under this. This guise, as, you

1393
01:23:48,630 --> 01:23:52,350
humanitarian effort, and it's

1394
01:23:52,350 --> 01:23:55,080
across the world is not

1395
01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:57,870
Well, it's even it's even

1396
01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:02,940
problematic humanitarian aspect

1397
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:08,400
stablecoin level, right? Like,

1398
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,640
Cardano and some of these

1399
01:24:12,660 --> 01:24:17,100
under the guise of, you know,

1400
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:21,540
schoolchildren, it's not exactly

1401
01:24:21,540 --> 01:24:23,730
really quick before I get there,

1402
01:24:23,730 --> 01:24:28,890
things so for people that don't

1403
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:32,430
I think oh, there's a lot of

1404
01:24:32,430 --> 01:24:37,440
it. And then there's you know,

1405
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:41,460
news had an interesting

1406
01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:44,970
him including Epstein

1407
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,730
creepy pedo stuff definitely

1408
01:24:50,730 --> 01:24:52,140
you're not aware, but he

1409
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:57,060
also former Disney actor was

1410
01:24:57,900 --> 01:24:59,610
just two Yes, yeah,

1411
01:24:59,610 --> 01:25:02,657
yeah. So Epstein stuff more

1412
01:25:02,718 --> 01:25:06,314
definitely some weird stuff

1413
01:25:06,375 --> 01:25:09,666
I think he stepped away

1414
01:25:09,727 --> 01:25:13,080
with tether several years ago.

1415
01:25:13,141 --> 01:25:16,737
reserves are held at Deltec a

1416
01:25:16,798 --> 01:25:20,455
also well known for holding a

1417
01:25:20,516 --> 01:25:24,112
their shady hast accounts. And

1418
01:25:24,173 --> 01:25:28,013
shallow pain, very involved in

1419
01:25:28,074 --> 01:25:31,731
part of the FTX stuff that Ed

1420
01:25:31,792 --> 01:25:35,449
on a limited hangout that I'd

1421
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:39,167
want more information on that,

1422
01:25:39,228 --> 01:25:42,824
rural nothing bank basically in

1423
01:25:42,885 --> 01:25:46,603
Moonstone bank, and it teamed up

1424
01:25:46,664 --> 01:25:50,443
Bahamian original cbdc, that you

1425
01:25:50,504 --> 01:25:54,222
weird stuff definitely going on

1426
01:25:54,283 --> 01:25:58,062
Federal Reserve, which somehow

1427
01:25:58,123 --> 01:26:01,780
And when it shouldn't, it does

1428
01:26:01,841 --> 01:26:05,742
going on there for sure. So and

1429
01:26:05,803 --> 01:26:09,399
have a report out on that soon

1430
01:26:09,460 --> 01:26:13,117
least in the next couple of

1431
01:26:13,178 --> 01:26:16,835
of going over its history before

1432
01:26:16,896 --> 01:26:20,614
Rockefeller centric, tied up

1433
01:26:20,675 --> 01:26:24,515
Rockefeller ran Chase Manhattan

1434
01:26:24,576 --> 01:26:28,233
state, quote, unquote, that's

1435
01:26:28,294 --> 01:26:31,585
to JP Morgan Chase. And

1436
01:26:31,646 --> 01:26:34,998
part of that and even has

1437
01:26:35,059 --> 01:26:38,594
1973 coup in Chile brought

1438
01:26:38,655 --> 01:26:41,947
of weird stuff. There which, you

1439
01:26:42,008 --> 01:26:45,299
Rockefeller also had a hand in

1440
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,956
basically, this horrible Neo

1441
01:26:49,017 --> 01:26:52,857
long time been enabled by this

1442
01:26:52,918 --> 01:26:56,270
both FTX and tether that

1443
01:26:56,331 --> 01:27:00,110
about USDC. So circle, is, uh, I

1444
01:27:00,171 --> 01:27:03,950
right, and there's been a lot

1445
01:27:04,011 --> 01:27:07,241
to some of this weird stuff

1446
01:27:07,302 --> 01:27:11,203
collapse of Silicon Valley Bank.

1447
01:27:11,264 --> 01:27:14,678
of their reserves were kept

1448
01:27:14,738 --> 01:27:18,030
dust more or less settled on

1449
01:27:18,091 --> 01:27:21,931
banking crisis, circle decided

1450
01:27:21,992 --> 01:27:25,953
needed to move around with being

1451
01:27:26,014 --> 01:27:29,611
in one nation under blackmail

1452
01:27:29,672 --> 01:27:33,146
why. So essentially, it seems to

1453
01:27:33,207 --> 01:27:36,864
basically being utilized for

1454
01:27:36,925 --> 01:27:40,643
same actors that I chronicle in

1455
01:27:40,704 --> 01:27:44,239
everything from sex trafficking,

1456
01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:47,896
trafficking, the worst stuff,

1457
01:27:47,957 --> 01:27:51,248
looting of wealth in the

1458
01:27:51,309 --> 01:27:55,088
the developed world, including

1459
01:27:55,149 --> 01:27:58,197
enabling the same type of

1460
01:27:58,258 --> 01:28:02,220
unsettling. So just wanted to

1461
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:05,406
It's unreal. I mean,

1462
01:28:05,468 --> 01:28:09,246
SPF, they filed chapter 11 on

1463
01:28:09,308 --> 01:28:12,901
11. And four days after being

1464
01:28:12,962 --> 01:28:16,245
banking institutions came out to

1465
01:28:16,307 --> 01:28:19,837
announcement of the digital

1466
01:28:19,899 --> 01:28:23,615
Federal Reserve Bank in New

1467
01:28:23,677 --> 01:28:27,579
So that was immediately after,

1468
01:28:27,641 --> 01:28:31,481
Apple Pay announced that they

1469
01:28:31,543 --> 01:28:34,888
and letting you use USDC

1470
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:38,852
it's the spookiest shit. I mean,

1471
01:28:38,914 --> 01:28:42,568
literally founded by Alexander

1472
01:28:42,630 --> 01:28:46,346
most important banks in the

1473
01:28:46,408 --> 01:28:50,124
the American experiment. And I

1474
01:28:50,186 --> 01:28:53,964
fifth it has, like, its hands

1475
01:28:54,026 --> 01:28:57,618
like in the world. It's just

1476
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,273
they hold the paper for, for us

1477
01:29:01,334 --> 01:29:04,865
Armstrong, the CEO of of

1478
01:29:04,927 --> 01:29:08,705
it's the de facto, you know,

1479
01:29:08,767 --> 01:29:12,545
that's kind of a big part of, of

1480
01:29:12,607 --> 01:29:16,509
cbdc is kind of a red herring.

1481
01:29:16,571 --> 01:29:20,349
I think the government doesn't,

1482
01:29:20,411 --> 01:29:23,879
know, to directly issue money

1483
01:29:23,941 --> 01:29:27,719
because they actually reserve

1484
01:29:27,781 --> 01:29:31,621
know, sort of keeping it in the

1485
01:29:31,683 --> 01:29:35,461
you know, we've seen that with

1486
01:29:35,523 --> 01:29:39,363
some of these other with, you

1487
01:29:39,425 --> 01:29:43,265
of American institutions. You

1488
01:29:43,327 --> 01:29:47,291
you know, affiliated with the US

1489
01:29:47,353 --> 01:29:51,193
their staff is filled with with

1490
01:29:51,255 --> 01:29:55,219
budget is filled with, you know,

1491
01:29:55,281 --> 01:29:58,935
government. And I think we're

1492
01:29:58,997 --> 01:30:02,837
kind of play out that the cbdc I

1493
01:30:02,899 --> 01:30:06,739
launches in a month, it's like

1494
01:30:06,801 --> 01:30:10,765
this inter banking network. And

1495
01:30:10,827 --> 01:30:14,357
ways, a lot more dangerous than

1496
01:30:14,419 --> 01:30:15,720
anyway. And that just

1497
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:19,920
enables financial

1498
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:20,940
right. Well,

1499
01:30:20,970 --> 01:30:24,960
the thing is, is kind of, I

1500
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,630
really be even more of a

1501
01:30:27,630 --> 01:30:30,690
now. And I don't mean that as a

1502
01:30:30,690 --> 01:30:34,080
Like, please don't, please don't

1503
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,530
are in kind of a surveillance

1504
01:30:37,530 --> 01:30:40,440
your phone, on a smartphone on

1505
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:43,830
it's completely surveilled.

1506
01:30:43,860 --> 01:30:48,120
and, but fed now kind of, it's

1507
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,810
thing. And it basically like

1508
01:30:51,810 --> 01:30:55,110
system even more, and brings it

1509
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:58,050
dollar, all of this, you know,

1510
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,760
It's basically paying everybody

1511
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,940
know, of overnight, overnight

1512
01:31:05,940 --> 01:31:08,610
dollar demand outside of the

1513
01:31:08,610 --> 01:31:10,800
back in, which is, you know,

1514
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:11,610
bankers want?

1515
01:31:12,210 --> 01:31:14,460
Well, yeah, I think that's

1516
01:31:14,460 --> 01:31:17,010
whole talk about banking the

1517
01:31:17,010 --> 01:31:20,760
too, you know, we want all of

1518
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,180
particularly our new system

1519
01:31:24,180 --> 01:31:28,260
essentially in the quote,

1520
01:31:28,260 --> 01:31:31,860
bring it in, you know, into our

1521
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:35,220
and surveil it more closely. And

1522
01:31:35,220 --> 01:31:38,340
seeing like, in the US, with the

1523
01:31:38,340 --> 01:31:42,750
over $600, I mean, it'll keep

1524
01:31:42,810 --> 01:31:45,600
everything in the system at the

1525
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,884
so the US will basically

1526
01:31:48,943 --> 01:31:52,825
treasury reserve asset back back

1527
01:31:52,884 --> 01:31:56,527
to kind of, you know, do these

1528
01:31:56,586 --> 01:32:00,468
reverse repo swaps, and then the

1529
01:32:00,527 --> 01:32:04,170
facing, like the things that

1530
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:07,633
and I, but, you know, the

1531
01:32:07,693 --> 01:32:11,275
will use this, you know, they'll

1532
01:32:11,335 --> 01:32:14,798
they'll use USDC, they'll use

1533
01:32:14,858 --> 01:32:18,679
dollar coin, they'll use Bank of

1534
01:32:18,739 --> 01:32:22,501
are all coming in massive ways.

1535
01:32:22,561 --> 01:32:26,203
to be able to service our debt.

1536
01:32:26,263 --> 01:32:29,487
issue dollars directly they

1537
01:32:29,547 --> 01:32:33,010
reserves. So they can sell these

1538
01:32:33,070 --> 01:32:36,354
providers like tether, and

1539
01:32:36,414 --> 01:32:39,638
largest net buyers of, of

1540
01:32:39,698 --> 01:32:43,400
bonds from the US government,

1541
01:32:43,459 --> 01:32:47,042
like hands over fist. And I

1542
01:32:47,102 --> 01:32:50,923
I think that's going to increase

1543
01:32:50,983 --> 01:32:54,566
to see way more stable coins,

1544
01:32:54,625 --> 01:32:58,208
we've already digitalized the

1545
01:32:58,268 --> 01:33:01,850
of America, you know, balances a

1546
01:33:01,910 --> 01:33:05,254
mean, so little of it is

1547
01:33:05,314 --> 01:33:09,016
any way. And I think we'll just

1548
01:33:09,075 --> 01:33:12,778
And these sort of retail facing

1549
01:33:12,837 --> 01:33:16,360
you know, the, the CBDC, you

1550
01:33:16,420 --> 01:33:20,122
you know, kind of maybe control

1551
01:33:20,182 --> 01:33:23,824
and saying, Let's ban the US

1552
01:33:23,884 --> 01:33:27,048
CBDCs, hurray, hurray, we won.

1553
01:33:27,108 --> 01:33:30,870
promoting, you know, stable coin

1554
01:33:30,930 --> 01:33:34,751
if it's this win. And it's like,

1555
01:33:34,811 --> 01:33:38,573
sector of the US government is

1556
01:33:38,632 --> 01:33:42,334
they are the people that are,

1557
01:33:42,394 --> 01:33:45,977
imperialism and colonialism of

1558
01:33:46,037 --> 01:33:49,560
These are the people we don't

1559
01:33:50,430 --> 01:33:52,470
Yeah, I definitely agree

1560
01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:54,600
support them. So I want to run

1561
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,560
little bit interest well on

1562
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,470
illuminate some of the funny

1563
01:34:01,470 --> 01:34:07,710
coins. So the UN for example. So

1564
01:34:07,710 --> 01:34:10,350
the World Food Programs,

1565
01:34:10,350 --> 01:34:15,030
was basically like Syrian

1566
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:17,940
from the UN and the World Food

1567
01:34:17,940 --> 01:34:21,570
biometrics scan your irises,

1568
01:34:21,570 --> 01:34:25,470
scans to get access to food? And

1569
01:34:25,470 --> 01:34:27,720
because even though it's

1570
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,170
voluntarily starve or

1571
01:34:31,170 --> 01:34:36,240
biometrics to be able to feed

1572
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,910
exactly voluntary. So the humans

1573
01:34:38,910 --> 01:34:42,060
backing something I wrote about

1574
01:34:42,060 --> 01:34:45,360
the ID 2020. Alliance, the push

1575
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:49,890
created by gates and the

1576
01:34:49,890 --> 01:34:53,670
force digital ID on the entire

1577
01:34:53,670 --> 01:34:57,450
fulfilling Sustainable

1578
01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:01,860
Target nine is about legal aid.

1579
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:05,940
basically, for example,

1580
01:35:05,940 --> 01:35:11,010
with Thailand and my Mr. The

1581
01:35:11,010 --> 01:35:14,460
involved in the UN sex for food

1582
01:35:14,460 --> 01:35:17,130
children. And it was the same

1583
01:35:17,130 --> 01:35:22,170
biometrics, and we'll issue you

1584
01:35:22,170 --> 01:35:25,320
information about you tracking

1585
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:31,590
including not just like, you

1586
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:34,080
quote, unquote, but all your

1587
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,490
education history and all of

1588
01:35:38,490 --> 01:35:42,750
biometrics. And if you want aid,

1589
01:35:42,750 --> 01:35:45,570
hospital these people have

1590
01:35:45,570 --> 01:35:49,320
know, partners of this

1591
01:35:49,620 --> 01:35:53,370
surrender that, you know, it's

1592
01:35:53,370 --> 01:35:56,760
is pushing a lot of this stuff.

1593
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,940
part of the UN at least was

1594
01:35:59,940 --> 01:36:02,910
stable coins and cryptocurrency

1595
01:36:02,910 --> 01:36:07,470
developing countries. But then a

1596
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:11,250
the UN started dispersing aid to

1597
01:36:11,250 --> 01:36:17,130
of USDC. So and then, of course,

1598
01:36:17,130 --> 01:36:19,650
people in the audience are aware

1599
01:36:19,650 --> 01:36:23,790
FTX and crypto donations to

1600
01:36:23,790 --> 01:36:27,210
these policy contradictions from

1601
01:36:28,380 --> 01:36:31,830
I mean, it's just, I mean,

1602
01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:36,540
on the belt of just the, you

1603
01:36:36,540 --> 01:36:40,800
of these huge infrastructural

1604
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,070
entities in our world

1605
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:49,890
absolutely ridiculous. I think

1606
01:36:49,890 --> 01:36:55,470
shitting, on the capabilities of

1607
01:36:55,470 --> 01:36:57,780
of the mouth, and then the other

1608
01:36:57,810 --> 01:37:01,950
oh, no, it's essential for, you

1609
01:37:01,950 --> 01:37:05,280
Ukraine. And by I mean, like, I

1610
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,220
websites, and was kind of

1611
01:37:08,220 --> 01:37:11,160
wallets and was doing some

1612
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,860
elites about, you know, a lot of

1613
01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:17,400
absurd. The amount of money that

1614
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:21,210
communication, the different the

1615
01:37:21,210 --> 01:37:25,770
numbers announced and what was

1616
01:37:25,770 --> 01:37:29,520
the blockchain. And, yeah, I

1617
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:34,440
great example of like, you know,

1618
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,510
hypocrisy of the purple party, I

1619
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:42,690
be and Warren and kind of the

1620
01:37:42,690 --> 01:37:45,690
party, like red and blue

1621
01:37:45,690 --> 01:37:45,960
That's, I

1622
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:51,690
mean, yeah. I mean, when you

1623
01:37:51,690 --> 01:37:54,510
to some of the Ukraine stuff,

1624
01:37:54,510 --> 01:37:59,910
of the financial system. You

1625
01:37:59,910 --> 01:38:03,720
Chair is sort of the, you know,

1626
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,540
sure they're, you know,

1627
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:10,410
compromised like anyone else,

1628
01:38:10,410 --> 01:38:13,800
1979, through now, with the

1629
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,770
obviously now the Treasury

1630
01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:20,910
political party and re nominated

1631
01:38:21,480 --> 01:38:25,230
wealth Chairman from Ben

1632
01:38:25,260 --> 01:38:29,700
nominated, and then re nominated

1633
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:34,710
2006. He did it four times he

1634
01:38:34,710 --> 01:38:38,430
Clinton, then Bush, Jr. and then

1635
01:38:38,430 --> 01:38:41,310
then Obama, and then power was

1636
01:38:41,310 --> 01:38:43,890
like, Okay, we have this huge

1637
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,670
apparently, between Trump and

1638
01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:50,580
saving democracy, and Trump is

1639
01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:53,970
they can re nominate the exact

1640
01:38:53,970 --> 01:38:57,990
kind of arguably most important

1641
01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:59,700
rates of the dollar system.

1642
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:03,180
the bankers run both

1643
01:39:03,180 --> 01:39:06,270
surprising once once you do

1644
01:39:06,300 --> 01:39:09,660
and you look into the, you

1645
01:39:09,660 --> 01:39:13,920
with all these huge bankers as

1646
01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:16,770
you know, right before they

1647
01:39:16,770 --> 01:39:19,410
was on a podcast like a couple

1648
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,100
about talking about wanting to

1649
01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:25,590
you're seeing you know, a lot of

1650
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:28,620
use case of okay, well, we can

1651
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,550
And Bitcoin magazine actually

1652
01:39:32,970 --> 01:39:35,580
We have a print magazine in the

1653
01:39:35,580 --> 01:39:41,760
interesting. I don't know a ton

1654
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:46,560
using Yeah, cryptocurrency

1655
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:51,660
a way to, you know, I guess on

1656
01:39:51,660 --> 01:39:55,110
citizens and sort of in this

1657
01:39:55,140 --> 01:40:00,000
potentially, below below paper,

1658
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,410
They are using this technology

1659
01:40:04,410 --> 01:40:08,850
just absurd how much money has

1660
01:40:08,850 --> 01:40:13,650
technology? And yeah, it's

1661
01:40:13,650 --> 01:40:18,990
articulate a thought of of how

1662
01:40:18,990 --> 01:40:22,890
legislation attempting to, you

1663
01:40:22,890 --> 01:40:25,890
dangerous technology. And then

1664
01:40:25,890 --> 01:40:29,010
know, virtue signaling, you

1665
01:40:29,010 --> 01:40:33,150
flags about how good you know,

1666
01:40:33,150 --> 01:40:35,550
Ukraine. It's, it's totally

1667
01:40:36,210 --> 01:40:39,840
yeah, consider the fact

1668
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,200
least now, right, that provably

1669
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,410
saying that a lot of money that

1670
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:51,810
used by the Ukrainian government

1671
01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:54,450
ill gotten gains and that a lot

1672
01:40:54,450 --> 01:40:56,910
there's no paper trail, so no

1673
01:40:57,300 --> 01:41:00,030
Ukraine is the conflict that

1674
01:41:00,030 --> 01:41:02,820
of Afghanistan and right, you

1675
01:41:02,820 --> 01:41:05,790
earlier, he talked a lot about

1676
01:41:05,790 --> 01:41:09,480
Afghanistan to these particular

1677
01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:12,240
relates to things like money

1678
01:41:12,510 --> 01:41:14,910
just that the money was

1679
01:41:14,910 --> 01:41:18,870
was intentionally lost, because

1680
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:21,570
that goes on. And, you know,

1681
01:41:21,570 --> 01:41:25,770
of US monetary policy. And as

1682
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:31,650
this standard FASEB 56, where

1683
01:41:31,650 --> 01:41:36,450
books, and they publish another

1684
01:41:36,450 --> 01:41:39,120
lie. And they don't have to tell

1685
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,420
actually knows where money money

1686
01:41:42,810 --> 01:41:46,260
doing that. With Ukraine. It's

1687
01:41:46,260 --> 01:41:50,730
they're using, including the UN,

1688
01:41:50,730 --> 01:41:54,090
not just FTX, which was tied up

1689
01:41:54,090 --> 01:42:00,330
for example. But the UN itself

1690
01:42:00,540 --> 01:42:05,820
it gets lost. Oh, yeah. But they

1691
01:42:05,820 --> 01:42:08,610
being misused. But for some, you

1692
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:11,670
and this is where Bitcoin I

1693
01:42:11,670 --> 01:42:16,440
Because, you know, you can't,

1694
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:19,320
you know, you can have a shitty

1695
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,650
bucket shop, that's, you know,

1696
01:42:23,070 --> 01:42:28,380
violations and commingling user

1697
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:32,220
you know, you, you can't you

1698
01:42:32,220 --> 01:42:36,750
to obfuscate, you know, shitty

1699
01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:40,800
I mean, how much of our current

1700
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:45,180
from, you know, the US going off

1701
01:42:45,180 --> 01:42:48,990
kind of that seems sort of

1702
01:42:48,990 --> 01:42:52,740
this Afghanistan, Assange theory

1703
01:42:52,740 --> 01:42:57,360
meant to just kind of be

1704
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,200
laundering opportunity. And

1705
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,770
military colonialism within the

1706
01:43:04,770 --> 01:43:09,660
connected to oil. And then we

1707
01:43:09,660 --> 01:43:13,710
revolutions happening, like we

1708
01:43:13,710 --> 01:43:16,740
involved in Ukraine is I mean,

1709
01:43:16,740 --> 01:43:20,310
something that happens seven,

1710
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:25,920
that. Yeah. And then we also

1711
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,940
happened with the Iranian

1712
01:43:29,940 --> 01:43:34,410
that sort of, you know, we were

1713
01:43:34,410 --> 01:43:38,190
used to be IBP. And there was a,

1714
01:43:38,190 --> 01:43:41,880
the Shah, I believe, and sort of

1715
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,060
were charging them basically

1716
01:43:45,630 --> 01:43:50,160
entity was losing money, and

1717
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,800
they were losing money, the

1718
01:43:53,610 --> 01:43:57,180
overthrow of masa deck.

1719
01:43:57,329 --> 01:44:02,879
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Exactly.

1720
01:44:02,879 --> 01:44:06,089
nationalized, the oil fields. So

1721
01:44:06,089 --> 01:44:10,949
revolutions and sort of CO

1722
01:44:10,949 --> 01:44:14,789
democracies in the US, I and we

1723
01:44:14,789 --> 01:44:18,509
America. And now we're seeing,

1724
01:44:18,509 --> 01:44:21,899
some of this Central and South

1725
01:44:21,899 --> 01:44:25,709
of these, like 66 dollarized

1726
01:44:25,709 --> 01:44:29,339
know, what, where was the US

1727
01:44:29,339 --> 01:44:31,559
think so when we look at

1728
01:44:31,559 --> 01:44:34,229
look at the total picture, learn

1729
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:36,899
well, this is sort of the

1730
01:44:37,049 --> 01:44:40,229
unfortunately. And obviously,

1731
01:44:40,259 --> 01:44:43,769
supportive of a national

1732
01:44:43,769 --> 01:44:47,009
border with military action, of

1733
01:44:47,009 --> 01:44:50,339
at, you know, the sort of big

1734
01:44:50,339 --> 01:44:52,019
stinks to high hell for sure.

1735
01:44:53,460 --> 01:44:56,340
Yeah, but I think the

1736
01:44:56,340 --> 01:44:59,640
weird crypto stuff and Ukraine

1737
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,130
like in the past, you know, a

1738
01:45:02,130 --> 01:45:04,890
action were based around

1739
01:45:05,070 --> 01:45:09,360
yeah, exactly. And now it seems

1740
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,550
different phase where it's a

1741
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,640
Bitcoin dollar politics may

1742
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,540
be a direct sort of parallel to

1743
01:45:18,810 --> 01:45:24,390
involvement. Is it now? Sorry,

1744
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:28,170
think it's strange that we just

1745
01:45:28,170 --> 01:45:32,160
Bitcoin dollar thesis kind of

1746
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,030
when we saw everything implode,

1747
01:45:36,030 --> 01:45:38,370
markets, it's like I, you know,

1748
01:45:38,370 --> 01:45:40,920
like the US goes and invades

1749
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,650
now we're, you know, it's

1750
01:45:43,650 --> 01:45:47,130
market. And right before that

1751
01:45:47,130 --> 01:45:51,120
this was the COVID lock downs,

1752
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:56,280
know, government and, you know,

1753
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,190
control over government kind of

1754
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:06,600
So we see a global lockdown,

1755
01:46:06,630 --> 01:46:11,640
issuance in May of 2020, we had

1756
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,820
the first time that the relative

1757
01:46:14,820 --> 01:46:19,890
below 2% relative issuance. So

1758
01:46:19,890 --> 01:46:22,830
was actually issuing less than

1759
01:46:22,830 --> 01:46:25,890
dollar, and wrath less than the

1760
01:46:25,890 --> 01:46:29,670
ground, which an extraction rate

1761
01:46:29,670 --> 01:46:33,090
this like mathematical moment

1762
01:46:33,090 --> 01:46:37,890
before this thing is about to

1763
01:46:37,890 --> 01:46:40,860
collapse of all markets, dollar

1764
01:46:40,860 --> 01:46:45,750
stocks go down, gold goes down,

1765
01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:48,450
nothing's supposed to all move

1766
01:46:48,450 --> 01:46:50,790
you know, like that's, that's a

1767
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:55,440
where's the money actually going

1768
01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:58,770
then, you know, we see Bitcoin

1769
01:46:58,770 --> 01:47:03,840
the next 12 months at 20x, and

1770
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,880
later. And so, what also

1771
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,400
know, we just disappeared and

1772
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:14,070
bunch of shit there. And then,

1773
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:18,600
starts right after, you know,

1774
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,790
which now we're learning, you

1775
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:24,450
catastrophic failure of public

1776
01:47:24,450 --> 01:47:27,390
think it the same people

1777
01:47:27,390 --> 01:47:29,940
lot of wins out of the lock

1778
01:47:29,940 --> 01:47:33,810
regular people. Yeah, but you

1779
01:47:33,810 --> 01:47:36,600
and how much market share Amazon

1780
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,900
billionaires came out of the

1781
01:47:39,900 --> 01:47:43,890
it pushed forward a lot of these

1782
01:47:43,890 --> 01:47:46,860
everything, push everything to

1783
01:47:46,860 --> 01:47:51,570
telehealth ubiquitous, make more

1784
01:47:51,570 --> 01:47:53,880
person shopping, and all the

1785
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,750
coming from people like Eric

1786
01:47:57,750 --> 01:48:01,920
National Security Commission, he

1787
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:06,360
talking about before COVID and

1788
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:10,200
right, but obviously, you know,

1789
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:14,160
really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

1790
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,100
parts to all of that. I mean, I

1791
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:20,130
important to think about how

1792
01:48:20,130 --> 01:48:22,020
feel like a lot of independent

1793
01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:26,190
really bothers me, is still very

1794
01:48:26,190 --> 01:48:30,870
world through the lens of the

1795
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:33,690
obviously moved on, because we

1796
01:48:33,690 --> 01:48:36,570
administration, for example,

1797
01:48:36,570 --> 01:48:39,210
economy, the net zero stuff,

1798
01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:42,180
by the bankers that have

1799
01:48:42,180 --> 01:48:44,010
could argue they really ran it

1800
01:48:44,010 --> 01:48:47,340
Rockefeller influence with the

1801
01:48:47,340 --> 01:48:50,280
I tend to lean toward that

1802
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,610
don't think the UN operated

1803
01:48:53,820 --> 01:48:56,820
before, it's very clear now that

1804
01:48:56,850 --> 01:48:59,400
bankers, and that these are the

1805
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,940
sustainable development. Right,

1806
01:49:02,940 --> 01:49:09,270
Bernie and Mike Bloomberg,

1807
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:14,010
you know, I just don't Yeah, I

1808
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,440
Just what the the energy

1809
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:20,100
there, I think it's so it's so

1810
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:23,010
kind of ideas that, you know,

1811
01:49:23,010 --> 01:49:26,550
we saw the Biden administration

1812
01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:31,020
Bitcoin mining. I mean, the

1813
01:49:31,020 --> 01:49:36,210
production has a huge huge

1814
01:49:36,210 --> 01:49:40,470
because its energy usage is

1815
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:44,550
decentralization and its ability

1816
01:49:44,730 --> 01:49:49,650
sensorless transactions. And so,

1817
01:49:49,650 --> 01:49:53,370
know, the state control locked

1818
01:49:53,370 --> 01:49:56,430
battery production. We're seeing

1819
01:49:56,430 --> 01:50:02,190
basically of, of minerals and

1820
01:50:02,190 --> 01:50:05,130
it's a software company as well,

1821
01:50:05,130 --> 01:50:07,410
shit, no one's going to catch up

1822
01:50:07,410 --> 01:50:11,130
stuff is so important. And now

1823
01:50:11,130 --> 01:50:15,300
this kind of, we're

1824
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:20,580
control over over money now via

1825
01:50:20,610 --> 01:50:21,810
Sorry. So there's

1826
01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:26,910
no, I think that's a great

1827
01:50:26,910 --> 01:50:29,220
what we're seeing, too, in terms

1828
01:50:29,220 --> 01:50:32,100
petrodollar, and again, I would

1829
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:36,030
media stop acting like it's

1830
01:50:36,030 --> 01:50:40,200
definitely world by now, yeah,

1831
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,290
really comfortable with that

1832
01:50:43,290 --> 01:50:47,280
really like to, I don't know. I

1833
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,890
revisioning of your worldview.

1834
01:50:49,890 --> 01:50:54,030
that, too. Because I wrote a lot

1835
01:50:54,030 --> 01:50:56,790
when I worked at MIT Press, and

1836
01:50:56,790 --> 01:51:01,890
we're talking about, have

1837
01:51:01,890 --> 01:51:04,980
think, though, you know, this

1838
01:51:04,980 --> 01:51:08,460
to look at because their energy

1839
01:51:08,460 --> 01:51:12,810
allotted a certain amount of

1840
01:51:12,810 --> 01:51:15,420
there's this idea of

1841
01:51:15,420 --> 01:51:18,690
at least for the masses in terms

1842
01:51:18,690 --> 01:51:21,120
and you're only allowed to

1843
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:26,220
economic activity based on how

1844
01:51:26,250 --> 01:51:29,520
right? Yeah. And this is

1845
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,490
paradigm is moving towards. But

1846
01:51:32,490 --> 01:51:34,920
from where we are now to there,

1847
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,410
going to be like from one to the

1848
01:51:37,410 --> 01:51:40,410
going to be some sort of

1849
01:51:40,410 --> 01:51:44,190
to with the whole like Bitcoin

1850
01:51:44,190 --> 01:51:47,250
stuff and energy usage as it

1851
01:51:47,250 --> 01:51:51,630
think somewhere in there, you're

1852
01:51:51,630 --> 01:51:54,690
approach that takes us from

1853
01:51:54,690 --> 01:52:00,990
technocracy paradigm. And it's

1854
01:52:00,990 --> 01:52:05,790
onto something here about what

1855
01:52:05,790 --> 01:52:09,990
necessarily have all the, you

1856
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:13,440
and know for sure, but it seems

1857
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:15,780
know, somewhere in the in the

1858
01:52:15,810 --> 01:52:19,530
I mean, I'm just a dude with

1859
01:52:19,530 --> 01:52:24,720
know, it's like that, too. Yeah.

1860
01:52:24,750 --> 01:52:29,910
I have no idea. It's just, you

1861
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:33,270
just watching, you know, these

1862
01:52:33,930 --> 01:52:36,030
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I

1863
01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:38,220
come in a lot of this stuff from

1864
01:52:38,220 --> 01:52:43,350
like, I, you know, was kind of a

1865
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:46,890
kind of, like, got into sort of

1866
01:52:46,890 --> 01:52:51,120
stuff through that field. And I

1867
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,580
and I saw a lot of the CO

1868
01:52:53,580 --> 01:52:57,900
saw, like, the queue, people

1869
01:52:57,900 --> 01:53:01,200
occur, that was, you know, in my

1870
01:53:01,230 --> 01:53:04,620
you know, kind of controlled

1871
01:53:04,650 --> 01:53:07,170
leaks and truth stuff that was

1872
01:53:07,170 --> 01:53:10,440
know, Podesta leaks, and all

1873
01:53:10,770 --> 01:53:15,630
you know, all this shit. And

1874
01:53:15,630 --> 01:53:18,030
from just being in the Bay Area,

1875
01:53:18,030 --> 01:53:21,900
worked all these company

1876
01:53:21,900 --> 01:53:25,740
know, up until 2020. And just

1877
01:53:25,740 --> 01:53:27,990
with all these people in these

1878
01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:30,720
at parties, seeing these things,

1879
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:34,110
Bay Area for like, this decade,

1880
01:53:34,110 --> 01:53:37,290
everything there. And it's like,

1881
01:53:37,290 --> 01:53:39,780
just like, stand aside and just

1882
01:53:39,780 --> 01:53:42,120
know, picking up something or

1883
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:45,720
don't know, who's really

1884
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,570
dollar coalition or whatever. I

1885
01:53:48,570 --> 01:53:52,440
impossible to know exactly, but

1886
01:53:52,440 --> 01:53:56,250
see the like, at least this was

1887
01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:00,450
for sure. And we can kind of see

1888
01:54:00,450 --> 01:54:03,120
way where they could use Bitcoin

1889
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,850
globalize the dollar and extend

1890
01:54:05,850 --> 01:54:09,750
have probably given up economic

1891
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:12,330
India, to, you know, kind of

1892
01:54:12,330 --> 01:54:17,310
of now, you know, probably 10

1893
01:54:17,310 --> 01:54:20,400
you know, we probably shouldn't

1894
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,730
didn't bail out, you know, the

1895
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:26,460
and, you know, you just look at

1896
01:54:26,460 --> 01:54:30,030
Harris was the DA in California

1897
01:54:30,030 --> 01:54:32,850
Minuchin. With all of this

1898
01:54:32,850 --> 01:54:35,850
collapse, and she decides not

1899
01:54:35,850 --> 01:54:39,000
Treasury prints more money than

1900
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,210
it's just like, I don't know how

1901
01:54:42,210 --> 01:54:48,930
those things and just not see

1902
01:54:48,930 --> 01:54:51,630
dissonance. That's like, like

1903
01:54:51,630 --> 01:54:54,900
infuriates me because it's like

1904
01:54:54,900 --> 01:54:58,170
to like Operation warp speed and

1905
01:54:58,170 --> 01:55:01,290
we've had than Trump and yet

1906
01:55:01,290 --> 01:55:02,940
state demigod and

1907
01:55:02,970 --> 01:55:06,060
isn't his administration in

1908
01:55:06,090 --> 01:55:09,750
it's just clown world a lot of

1909
01:55:09,900 --> 01:55:12,450
there? Well, again, there's a

1910
01:55:12,450 --> 01:55:15,270
this whole, like political

1911
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:18,150
least with his base. And I've

1912
01:55:18,150 --> 01:55:20,580
how there's this cultural

1913
01:55:20,580 --> 01:55:23,790
that political savior. So

1914
01:55:23,790 --> 01:55:27,240
found it right. And other people

1915
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,900
looking for their own version of

1916
01:55:30,900 --> 01:55:32,220
controlled by the bankers.

1917
01:55:33,570 --> 01:55:36,090
in their, in their

1918
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,670
sorry, our own emotions, they're

1919
01:55:38,670 --> 01:55:42,390
It's like, I think the Q people

1920
01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:45,060
Trump derangement syndrome

1921
01:55:45,060 --> 01:55:47,220
dumb. It's like, they're,

1922
01:55:47,220 --> 01:55:51,930
manipulated by and their consent

1923
01:55:51,930 --> 01:55:55,650
know, these ridiculous, you

1924
01:55:55,980 --> 01:55:59,520
belief stuff. It's no one

1925
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,760
about evidence or facts anymore.

1926
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:07,110
belief in something. You know,

1927
01:56:07,140 --> 01:56:09,540
there's all these efforts to

1928
01:56:09,540 --> 01:56:12,330
COVID. That's been the big theme

1929
01:56:12,330 --> 01:56:16,080
of the UN. And trust secures

1930
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,140
doing it right. Yeah. So they're

1931
01:56:19,140 --> 01:56:24,360
figures that we trust, so that

1932
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:28,170
say. So me, you know, maybe it's

1933
01:56:28,170 --> 01:56:32,790
build, you know, trust with

1934
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:35,340
know, you roll out people that

1935
01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:39,840
Trump or Elon Musk, or Peter

1936
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,480
whatever, no one you heard them

1937
01:56:42,540 --> 01:56:45,030
He feels interesting to

1938
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:48,600
bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

1939
01:56:49,230 --> 01:56:51,360
He's a huge coiner has come out

1940
01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:54,660
he claims to be a Bitcoin

1941
01:56:54,660 --> 01:56:57,810
stage with Mike Pompeo and says

1942
01:56:57,810 --> 01:57:01,170
weapon to destroy the dollar. So

1943
01:57:01,170 --> 01:57:03,750
know, and he doesn't he's like

1944
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:07,080
libertarian. And then his

1945
01:57:07,470 --> 01:57:11,010
Liberty destroying CIA front

1946
01:57:11,010 --> 01:57:15,420
Palantir created Facebook, which

1947
01:57:15,420 --> 01:57:19,350
basically, and all this other

1948
01:57:19,590 --> 01:57:23,160
met with Jeffrey Epstein, we

1949
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:26,340
and carbine, which is taking

1950
01:57:26,340 --> 01:57:32,640
911 to build a pre crime control

1951
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:37,200
Peter. No, I wouldn't. I would

1952
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:38,040
least, you know, well,

1953
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,570
but he did write the intro.

1954
01:57:42,570 --> 01:57:45,540
foreword to the sovereign

1955
01:57:45,540 --> 01:57:48,480
edition. So he's super based and

1956
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:48,930
maybe he

1957
01:57:48,930 --> 01:57:51,300
thinks he's a sovereign

1958
01:57:51,300 --> 01:57:55,350
accountable and untouchable, but

1959
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:59,160
you know, whose lives they've

1960
01:58:00,060 --> 01:58:02,670
I don't think he sees them as

1961
01:58:02,670 --> 01:58:02,730
I

1962
01:58:02,730 --> 01:58:05,760
mean, the guy that the guy

1963
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,640
data to the US government, it's

1964
01:58:08,940 --> 01:58:13,380
all, all, every US

1965
01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:15,750
and there's like, 18 of them

1966
01:58:16,290 --> 01:58:19,470
it's absurd. Yeah. And I'm

1967
01:58:19,470 --> 01:58:22,320
And I'm sure I'm sure there's

1968
01:58:22,710 --> 01:58:25,470
intelligence fighting. Like,

1969
01:58:25,470 --> 01:58:26,250
factionalism

1970
01:58:26,250 --> 01:58:28,590
Most definitely. That's why

1971
01:58:28,590 --> 01:58:31,740
opinion. Right. Right. Right.

1972
01:58:31,740 --> 01:58:34,740
wasn't because the establishment

1973
01:58:34,830 --> 01:58:40,800
No, no, no. Someone off? Well, I

1974
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,170
factional thing going on. And

1975
01:58:43,170 --> 01:58:47,070
has to do with his affiliation

1976
01:58:47,070 --> 01:58:49,710
sort of had came to power in

1977
01:58:49,710 --> 01:58:53,250
Arabia deposed John Brennan,

1978
01:58:53,250 --> 01:58:56,850
Brennan's golden boy in Saudi

1979
01:58:56,850 --> 01:59:02,880
Crown Prince, and then you have,

1980
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:06,960
2019, he was really tied up also

1981
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:11,700
Musk. And Elon Musk is, you

1982
01:59:11,700 --> 01:59:14,190
all this stuff. Kushner was

1983
01:59:14,190 --> 01:59:17,250
this weird nexus there. That's

1984
01:59:17,610 --> 01:59:21,000
And then you have John Brennan

1985
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:24,060
take down that faction, I think

1986
01:59:24,060 --> 01:59:26,010
opinion, at least, that there's

1987
01:59:26,010 --> 01:59:28,710
that's more likely a better

1988
01:59:28,710 --> 01:59:33,030
arrested and quote, unquote,

1989
01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:35,970
long time. And a key part of his

1990
01:59:35,970 --> 01:59:38,640
what he was doing with JP

1991
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,730
collapse of Bear Stearns in

1992
01:59:41,730 --> 01:59:45,360
shady stuff that he was involved

1993
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:49,530
really like to talk about when

1994
01:59:49,710 --> 01:59:55,410
before, right. But yeah,

1995
01:59:55,410 --> 01:59:58,080
was building around the time he

1996
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:02,760
involved with this guy named Ben

1997
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:06,900
Trent open transhumanist. And he

1998
02:00:06,900 --> 02:00:10,350
Singularity net. And he is one

1999
02:00:10,350 --> 02:00:14,190
robotics that produces Sophia

2000
02:00:14,190 --> 02:00:17,640
robot was rolled out and given

2001
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:22,320
being NBS was being advised by

2002
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:26,400
how that might have some weird

2003
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:28,830
connection to this card Donald

2004
02:00:28,830 --> 02:00:31,800
Hoskinson that I want to get

2005
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:33,570
the podcast, sorry, go ahead.

2006
02:00:33,570 --> 02:00:37,036
Well, just I think, I mean,

2007
02:00:37,094 --> 02:00:40,791
Cardano stuff, but just the idea

2008
02:00:40,849 --> 02:00:44,431
a an angle to all this that is

2009
02:00:44,489 --> 02:00:47,897
you know, the elite sort of

2010
02:00:47,955 --> 02:00:51,422
a lot of this, you know, these

2011
02:00:51,479 --> 02:00:54,946
for us, but there's obviously

2012
02:00:55,003 --> 02:00:58,585
basically to circumnavigate this

2013
02:00:58,643 --> 02:01:02,283
that Geoffrey Lubin when he was,

2014
02:01:02,341 --> 02:01:05,518
Ethereum. And when he was

2015
02:01:05,576 --> 02:01:09,216
you basically how you could buy

2016
02:01:09,274 --> 02:01:12,971
I mean, he's literally on camera

2017
02:01:13,029 --> 02:01:16,495
how you avoid, you know, anti

2018
02:01:16,553 --> 02:01:20,308
customer regulations, so you can

2019
02:01:20,366 --> 02:01:23,717
JP Morgan has a huge share, and

2020
02:01:23,775 --> 02:01:26,952
citizenship, I think, the

2021
02:01:27,010 --> 02:01:30,534
relates to cryptocurrency and

2022
02:01:30,592 --> 02:01:34,290
at like the TerraMar Project,

2023
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:39,300
I don't know. Yeah, right.

2024
02:01:39,300 --> 02:01:41,190
Clinton Foundation. Yeah.

2025
02:01:41,340 --> 02:01:44,610
And, you know, it was sort

2026
02:01:44,610 --> 02:01:47,310
of kind of being this like,

2027
02:01:47,310 --> 02:01:51,060
huge part of it was about ocean

2028
02:01:51,060 --> 02:01:53,430
creating this like offshore

2029
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:56,970
for offshore bankers.

2030
02:01:56,999 --> 02:02:00,299
And, you know, she's a

2031
02:02:00,299 --> 02:02:03,059
is the science shit that they're

2032
02:02:03,059 --> 02:02:05,879
they looking for in the Bahamas?

2033
02:02:05,879 --> 02:02:07,769
don't want to get into too much

2034
02:02:08,130 --> 02:02:10,680
shorter a cement mixer do

2035
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:11,640
arrested? And I don't know.

2036
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:13,650
Yeah, yeah. I don't know,

2037
02:02:13,650 --> 02:02:16,350
they're looking for building. Do

2038
02:02:16,350 --> 02:02:19,710
underneath there? Who knows. But

2039
02:02:19,710 --> 02:02:23,340
important. Because we're now

2040
02:02:23,340 --> 02:02:26,550
this like Indonesian island

2041
02:02:26,610 --> 02:02:30,210
blue that has all these

2042
02:02:30,210 --> 02:02:33,540
signed off on their, you know,

2043
02:02:33,540 --> 02:02:36,390
support budget from the US and

2044
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:41,850
citizenship, you know, passport

2045
02:02:41,850 --> 02:02:44,940
basically people could like swim

2046
02:02:44,940 --> 02:02:48,000
passport and then be able to go

2047
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:51,990
problem. And now we're seeing

2048
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:55,800
this as like a service in the

2049
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:59,400
where like, you can go get a

2050
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:01,680
Winky dinky I heard about this

2051
02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:03,810
conference, and it blew my

2052
02:03:03,810 --> 02:03:06,330
telling me about it. Like, oh,

2053
02:03:06,330 --> 02:03:08,130
talking to you were doing that.

2054
02:03:08,130 --> 02:03:10,470
intelligence agencies do, dude.

2055
02:03:10,890 --> 02:03:16,950
100%. I mean, it's fair me

2056
02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:20,640
mean, this is where a lot of my,

2057
02:03:20,640 --> 02:03:24,210
around and looking at all this

2058
02:03:24,210 --> 02:03:29,400
there's clearly something going

2059
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:33,360
of citizenship. And I think it's

2060
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:37,080
of circumnavigating reporting of

2061
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,870
you know, how it relates to

2062
02:03:39,900 --> 02:03:42,450
whether it's drugs, or what else

2063
02:03:42,870 --> 02:03:46,560
Exactly. And you start to piece

2064
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:49,860
it's like Disney cruises,

2065
02:03:49,860 --> 02:03:52,920
Island for snorkeling, and it's

2066
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:57,930
fast. But but now we're seeing

2067
02:03:57,930 --> 02:04:01,080
being presented as a way to you

2068
02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:05,520
out and says you can use this

2069
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:09,000
component. Oh, no, that when

2070
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:12,720
like a service to like, you

2071
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:17,370
basically, certainly means

2072
02:04:17,370 --> 02:04:20,070
financial fee, then none of

2073
02:04:20,070 --> 02:04:22,350
it's like to the rich, they're

2074
02:04:22,380 --> 02:04:25,290
it's just part of their budget,

2075
02:04:25,290 --> 02:04:28,410
spoofing the metals market, they

2076
02:04:28,410 --> 02:04:33,390
history of banking. And it was

2077
02:04:33,390 --> 02:04:36,150
budget profit of just that one

2078
02:04:36,150 --> 02:04:39,480
like, or HSBC money

2079
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:41,760
all that stuff. And they get

2080
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:43,920
nothing of what they made. Yeah,

2081
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:47,190
So while I think the

2082
02:04:47,190 --> 02:04:50,100
crazy, and I think the way that

2083
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:54,690
blockchain, hyper surveilled

2084
02:04:54,690 --> 02:04:55,980
I think that there are already

2085
02:04:55,980 --> 02:04:58,440
seeing it with what you just

2086
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:00,960
little people aren't going to

2087
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:04,170
just discussed, but the rich

2088
02:05:04,170 --> 02:05:07,800
panopticon. And it looks like

2089
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,640
quote unquote inclusive. Right?

2090
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,160
have all these workarounds and

2091
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:15,030
them up right now.

2092
02:05:15,450 --> 02:05:17,850
Yeah. And we're seeing, I

2093
02:05:17,850 --> 02:05:20,430
kind of loop back to that, like,

2094
02:05:20,430 --> 02:05:26,760
within that that's using, like

2095
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:32,910
way to sort of build you know,

2096
02:05:32,910 --> 02:05:36,510
think we've kind of seen like,

2097
02:05:36,510 --> 02:05:40,710
like technology, academia as

2098
02:05:40,710 --> 02:05:44,370
like, I think there's a reason

2099
02:05:44,370 --> 02:05:47,520
a lot of scientists in the

2100
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:51,780
think it's all just eugenics. Or

2101
02:05:51,780 --> 02:05:52,380
remember

2102
02:05:52,380 --> 02:05:55,920
but I think a lot of it was

2103
02:05:55,950 --> 02:05:56,310
really,

2104
02:05:56,340 --> 02:05:59,910
absolutely. But I think a

2105
02:05:59,910 --> 02:06:03,810
know, kind of Manufacturing

2106
02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:06,990
we just went through. I mean, I

2107
02:06:07,020 --> 02:06:09,840
of I got kicked out of college.

2108
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,480
electrical engineering, and I

2109
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:17,250
not getting back. And I think

2110
02:06:17,250 --> 02:06:19,830
still is, I mean, they're still

2111
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:23,130
been that look at MIT, where

2112
02:06:23,130 --> 02:06:25,800
actually in heavily funded.

2113
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:28,800
mitre, one of the shittiest

2114
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:32,250
contractors to other exists the

2115
02:06:32,430 --> 02:06:35,580
And it's been a huge part of the

2116
02:06:35,580 --> 02:06:39,870
since the military industrial

2117
02:06:39,870 --> 02:06:42,780
for example, at MIT, when he

2118
02:06:42,780 --> 02:06:45,600
military funding, right. So I

2119
02:06:45,630 --> 02:06:48,060
probably get some sort of

2120
02:06:48,090 --> 02:06:49,830
even if you're a linguist,

2121
02:06:50,340 --> 02:06:53,640
I mean, we just saw, I mean,

2122
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:54,840
mean, he bass. I mean, I know,

2123
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:59,010
I know. I know, basically,

2124
02:06:59,130 --> 02:07:01,650
But huge part of inventing,

2125
02:07:01,650 --> 02:07:03,690
computers. I mean, he's, you

2126
02:07:03,690 --> 02:07:06,780
father of computers and computer

2127
02:07:06,780 --> 02:07:07,140
way.

2128
02:07:07,230 --> 02:07:09,660
People talk about that a

2129
02:07:09,660 --> 02:07:10,950
thought he wanted to meet with

2130
02:07:11,460 --> 02:07:14,460
Totally. And then we see

2131
02:07:14,460 --> 02:07:20,670
he was just opposed last night,

2132
02:07:20,670 --> 02:07:28,320
Barclays, and JP Morgan. Yeah.

2133
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:32,190
Ryan Killian, who was the

2134
02:07:32,790 --> 02:07:39,000
So and his dad ran a chemicals

2135
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:43,260
Staley of WT grant, when they

2136
02:07:43,260 --> 02:07:46,380
like, it just everywhere you

2137
02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:50,700
intergenerational crime

2138
02:07:50,700 --> 02:07:53,040
people that put Jamie diamond

2139
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:56,010
from the Wexner crowd were the

2140
02:07:56,010 --> 02:07:58,890
quintessential intergenerational

2141
02:07:58,890 --> 02:08:01,740
the Pritzker is, which are also

2142
02:08:02,580 --> 02:08:05,700
For sure. I mean, Thomas

2143
02:08:05,730 --> 02:08:08,910
numero uno. Why did Jeffrey

2144
02:08:10,260 --> 02:08:12,960
years that even mean? Even

2145
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,900
right? Why is he number one?

2146
02:08:15,900 --> 02:08:20,400
that in the black book. You

2147
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,760
going on. So not enough people

2148
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:27,900
of the keys. key reasons the

2149
02:08:27,900 --> 02:08:31,890
been so successful in what

2150
02:08:31,890 --> 02:08:35,460
early on involved in Castle

2151
02:08:35,490 --> 02:08:38,970
most notorious at least at the

2152
02:08:38,970 --> 02:08:43,320
built by former CIA guy Paul

2153
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:45,930
insider in the Pritzker years.

2154
02:08:45,930 --> 02:08:49,050
Democrats and it was their

2155
02:08:49,050 --> 02:08:52,140
helped set up Castle bank with

2156
02:08:52,140 --> 02:08:55,260
all this Republican Democrat

2157
02:08:55,260 --> 02:08:57,600
the Caribbean. I mean, based on

2158
02:08:57,600 --> 02:09:00,150
it doesn't really sound that

2159
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,240
You know, definitely not.

2160
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:07,770
an important part of, I think,

2161
02:09:07,770 --> 02:09:10,860
know, kind of general you know,

2162
02:09:10,860 --> 02:09:15,330
sort of this like, the cycles of

2163
02:09:15,330 --> 02:09:20,460
are compressing like so, like

2164
02:09:20,460 --> 02:09:24,630
these like, you know, basically

2165
02:09:24,660 --> 02:09:28,230
you know, whatever, like just

2166
02:09:28,230 --> 02:09:30,930
these mechanisms, like occurring

2167
02:09:30,930 --> 02:09:33,930
seeing them happen. And it's

2168
02:09:33,930 --> 02:09:36,660
thing they did, and like, oh,

2169
02:09:36,660 --> 02:09:39,450
Afghanistan. Like just the fact

2170
02:09:39,450 --> 02:09:43,890
because it's only been 20 years.

2171
02:09:43,890 --> 02:09:46,740
important. It's like, you know,

2172
02:09:46,740 --> 02:09:50,100
starting to see you know, this

2173
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:54,390
able to kind of like see how the

2174
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:57,780
whatever Cabal, whatever the

2175
02:09:57,780 --> 02:10:01,710
operate and we will We're

2176
02:10:01,710 --> 02:10:05,400
to do it so much quicker. It was

2177
02:10:05,430 --> 02:10:08,610
financial crisis is are now

2178
02:10:08,610 --> 02:10:11,340
we're probably going to have

2179
02:10:11,340 --> 02:10:14,970
yeah. We've lived through it. I

2180
02:10:14,970 --> 02:10:18,300
I'm not old by any means. And

2181
02:10:19,650 --> 02:10:23,790
Yeah, exactly. And it's like,

2182
02:10:23,790 --> 02:10:27,120
only imagine that people that

2183
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:29,880
twice our age that are, you

2184
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:32,400
they were really kind of paying

2185
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:36,480
cycles compress, you know it

2186
02:10:38,700 --> 02:10:41,800
II and they're more

2187
02:10:41,861 --> 02:10:45,326
do about it? Right, right.

2188
02:10:45,387 --> 02:10:49,034
the last thing I want to talk

2189
02:10:49,095 --> 02:10:52,500
Cardano. And Charles. Yeah,

2190
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:56,512
important under the topic of the

2191
02:10:56,573 --> 02:11:00,221
So Hoskinson, co founder of

2192
02:11:00,281 --> 02:11:03,747
founders of Ethereum, one of

2193
02:11:03,807 --> 02:11:07,212
Butyrin. harissa is name who I

2194
02:11:07,273 --> 02:11:10,738
context of this thing. But

2195
02:11:10,799 --> 02:11:14,568
up with who I mentioned earlier,

2196
02:11:14,629 --> 02:11:17,851
that was funded by Epstein,

2197
02:11:17,912 --> 02:11:21,559
Cardano and singularity net have

2198
02:11:21,620 --> 02:11:25,389
their operations and singularity

2199
02:11:25,450 --> 02:11:28,976
Ben girdle. And, okay, around. I

2200
02:11:29,037 --> 02:11:32,624
slightly after the Cardano

2201
02:11:32,684 --> 02:11:36,271
involved with the Ethiopian

2202
02:11:36,332 --> 02:11:39,554
which is normally very

2203
02:11:39,615 --> 02:11:43,141
me, thing, you know, outlet to

2204
02:11:43,202 --> 02:11:46,789
published about this called

2205
02:11:46,849 --> 02:11:50,193
watershed moment for the

2206
02:11:50,254 --> 02:11:53,780
it starts off talking about the

2207
02:11:53,841 --> 02:11:56,941
there's this conflation of

2208
02:11:57,002 --> 02:12:00,771
doesn't, you know, these are all

2209
02:12:00,832 --> 02:12:04,419
come up about Bitcoin. It's been

2210
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,580
controversies, but now

2211
02:12:07,641 --> 02:12:11,532
good and being used a tribute to

2212
02:12:11,592 --> 02:12:15,179
of people in the developing

2213
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,888
there is this lady's reasoning

2214
02:12:18,948 --> 02:12:22,718
way, which is, I mean, what a

2215
02:12:22,778 --> 02:12:26,426
that this program by Charles

2216
02:12:26,487 --> 02:12:30,135
to make everything better for

2217
02:12:30,195 --> 02:12:33,478
she describes it. She says, a

2218
02:12:33,539 --> 02:12:36,761
showcasing blockchain

2219
02:12:36,822 --> 02:12:40,226
countries. Unlike most other

2220
02:12:40,287 --> 02:12:43,874
which focus on private sector

2221
02:12:43,935 --> 02:12:47,704
Europe in North America. Their

2222
02:12:47,765 --> 02:12:50,987
governments and public

2223
02:12:51,048 --> 02:12:54,756
world, obviously, for altruistic

2224
02:12:54,817 --> 02:12:58,221
there. Yeah, that's why I'm

2225
02:12:58,282 --> 02:13:02,051
know what to take me literally

2226
02:13:02,112 --> 02:13:05,517
in April, the Ethiopian

2227
02:13:05,577 --> 02:13:08,860
signed a deal to create a

2228
02:13:08,921 --> 02:13:11,961
teacher ids using a

2229
02:13:12,021 --> 02:13:15,365
solution. The deal involves

2230
02:13:15,426 --> 02:13:18,891
children across 3500 schools,

2231
02:13:18,952 --> 02:13:22,843
educational records. This is the

2232
02:13:22,904 --> 02:13:26,430
be signed by a government and

2233
02:13:26,490 --> 02:13:29,895
crypto asset industry. And she

2234
02:13:29,956 --> 02:13:33,482
digital ID is going to be

2235
02:13:33,542 --> 02:13:36,947
for me, but Okay, so you're

2236
02:13:37,008 --> 02:13:40,899
inclusion, but this is supposed

2237
02:13:40,959 --> 02:13:44,546
credential. So obviously, you

2238
02:13:44,607 --> 02:13:48,194
part of the broader un backed

2239
02:13:48,255 --> 02:13:51,963
you know, paradigm where it's

2240
02:13:52,024 --> 02:13:55,428
information, your access to

2241
02:13:55,489 --> 02:13:59,380
education, your access to money

2242
02:13:59,441 --> 02:14:03,331
digital ID. And then she goes on

2243
02:14:03,392 --> 02:14:07,040
promising is that this is the

2244
02:14:07,101 --> 02:14:10,566
are focused on serving the

2245
02:14:10,627 --> 02:14:14,274
align with the developmental

2246
02:14:14,335 --> 02:14:18,044
Nations Sustainable Development

2247
02:14:18,104 --> 02:14:21,813
Union agenda 2063 goals which

2248
02:14:21,874 --> 02:14:25,460
equivalent of the SDGs big

2249
02:14:25,521 --> 02:14:29,230
to talk about Cardano and how

2250
02:14:29,290 --> 02:14:32,816
company input output Hong Kong

2251
02:14:32,877 --> 02:14:36,403
Mergo, which is based in Japan

2252
02:14:36,464 --> 02:14:40,051
Cardano blockchain and that

2253
02:14:40,112 --> 02:14:44,002
this Cardano Foundation, a Swiss

2254
02:14:44,063 --> 02:14:47,772
based this you know project is

2255
02:14:47,833 --> 02:14:50,811
blockchain and its core

2256
02:14:50,872 --> 02:14:54,398
benefit African countries. And

2257
02:14:54,459 --> 02:14:58,289
about what Cardano the project

2258
02:14:58,350 --> 02:15:01,693
of the earth Ethiopian deal

2259
02:15:01,754 --> 02:15:05,645
which Charles Hoskinson runs I'm

2260
02:15:05,706 --> 02:15:09,414
or it says a Tala prism is being

2261
02:15:09,475 --> 02:15:13,001
digital identity solutions on

2262
02:15:13,062 --> 02:15:16,162
idea is to start by granting

2263
02:15:16,223 --> 02:15:19,810
university students a digital

2264
02:15:19,871 --> 02:15:23,701
educational career, and future

2265
02:15:23,762 --> 02:15:27,652
in school will be there forever.

2266
02:15:27,713 --> 02:15:31,543
of what I mentioned earlier with

2267
02:15:31,604 --> 02:15:35,252
people in Thailand and Myanmar

2268
02:15:35,312 --> 02:15:39,142
all of that to their vaccination

2269
02:15:39,203 --> 02:15:42,972
from the time they're born on

2270
02:15:43,033 --> 02:15:46,559
their finances. And that's

2271
02:15:46,620 --> 02:15:50,389
on here. But it's being framed

2272
02:15:50,450 --> 02:15:53,855
some of the same outlets that

2273
02:15:53,915 --> 02:15:57,563
colonialism as being bad. This

2274
02:15:57,624 --> 02:16:01,454
it, you know, and it's backed by

2275
02:16:01,515 --> 02:16:05,284
you know, as I just mentioned a

2276
02:16:05,345 --> 02:16:08,749
fused with this and this

2277
02:16:08,810 --> 02:16:11,728
believe, I think it's

2278
02:16:11,789 --> 02:16:15,558
involved with this AI lab that

2279
02:16:15,619 --> 02:16:19,388
fund into existence. So you have

2280
02:16:19,449 --> 02:16:23,400
And Epstein, and this deposition

2281
02:16:23,461 --> 02:16:26,987
Islands called Africa, a great

2282
02:16:27,048 --> 02:16:30,696
ground for experimentation. So

2283
02:16:30,756 --> 02:16:33,978
You think Epstein wasn't a

2284
02:16:34,039 --> 02:16:37,444
serial financial criminal and

2285
02:16:37,505 --> 02:16:41,335
company that was, you know, he

2286
02:16:41,395 --> 02:16:45,225
deposition, he was trying to get

2287
02:16:45,286 --> 02:16:48,995
vulnerable use in the US vi to

2288
02:16:49,055 --> 02:16:52,885
was building, the tech FinTech

2289
02:16:52,946 --> 02:16:56,168
basically like a coding

2290
02:16:56,229 --> 02:16:59,998
Right. But allegedly, according

2291
02:17:00,059 --> 02:17:03,828
company founded after his first

2292
02:17:03,889 --> 02:17:07,293
trafficking operation. So what

2293
02:17:07,354 --> 02:17:11,002
vulnerable kids for from the

2294
02:17:11,063 --> 02:17:14,224
More questions. So with

2295
02:17:14,285 --> 02:17:17,993
going on there, and these people

2296
02:17:18,054 --> 02:17:21,398
themselves as anti crypto

2297
02:17:21,458 --> 02:17:25,167
And also the question arises,

2298
02:17:25,228 --> 02:17:28,875
what is all this data being used

2299
02:17:28,936 --> 02:17:32,462
Because you have, you know,

2300
02:17:32,523 --> 02:17:36,292
will have this tied to Sophia,

2301
02:17:36,353 --> 02:17:40,244
be building its AI that controls

2302
02:17:40,305 --> 02:17:43,831
it's trained on. And now they

2303
02:17:43,891 --> 02:17:47,782
access all of this stuff. Well,

2304
02:17:47,843 --> 02:17:51,795
how decentralized is it? Really,

2305
02:17:51,855 --> 02:17:55,807
guys, including stable coins and

2306
02:17:55,868 --> 02:17:59,090
today claim, oh, we're

2307
02:17:59,151 --> 02:18:02,130
forth. But that's not exactly

2308
02:18:02,370 --> 02:18:04,590
Yeah. Not even close to

2309
02:18:04,590 --> 02:18:08,070
mean, no, absolutely not

2310
02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:09,660
centralized, not decentralized

2311
02:18:09,660 --> 02:18:14,070
Yeah, exactly. And then you

2312
02:18:14,070 --> 02:18:16,560
if I'm butchering his name, I

2313
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:19,710
booter. In but due to right,

2314
02:18:19,710 --> 02:18:19,980
to be

2315
02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:23,880
strong and fastest on the

2316
02:18:24,330 --> 02:18:28,770
Exactly. Yeah, whatever. I speak

2317
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:32,460
whatever. But anyway, he came up

2318
02:18:32,460 --> 02:18:36,330
bound tokens. Are you familiar

2319
02:18:36,330 --> 02:18:40,170
he's basically charting out the

2320
02:18:41,070 --> 02:18:46,110
you know, their whole life on in

2321
02:18:46,110 --> 02:18:48,720
basically the same thing as what

2322
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:50,820
Ethiopia, and called them

2323
02:18:50,820 --> 02:18:52,200
soul bound tokens.

2324
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:57,690
I mean, this disturbing ass

2325
02:18:57,690 --> 02:19:02,100
say the very least, you know, I

2326
02:19:02,130 --> 02:19:04,890
particularly the ones that

2327
02:19:04,890 --> 02:19:08,880
original Bitcoin, like you do,

2328
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:11,400
out more because there's a lot

2329
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:13,050
about in some of these

2330
02:19:13,050 --> 02:19:16,650
academic articles, but also an

2331
02:19:16,650 --> 02:19:19,680
Bitcoiners everyone that has is

2332
02:19:19,680 --> 02:19:23,310
they're all the same. Right?

2333
02:19:23,310 --> 02:19:26,430
of, like we've talked about

2334
02:19:26,430 --> 02:19:30,450
differences. And the question is

2335
02:19:30,450 --> 02:19:33,510
but also other people that may

2336
02:19:33,510 --> 02:19:39,180
technologies as a potential exit

2337
02:19:39,180 --> 02:19:42,570
stuff as an X exit ramp has to

2338
02:19:42,570 --> 02:19:46,440
fought for now, because like

2339
02:19:46,440 --> 02:19:49,800
ground is being lost and the

2340
02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:52,470
be able to use it that way

2341
02:19:52,680 --> 02:19:55,110
of the same system you're

2342
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:58,050
So it's like everything else,

2343
02:19:58,050 --> 02:20:01,710
some point you have to have red

2344
02:20:01,710 --> 02:20:04,560
not gonna cosign that, you know,

2345
02:20:05,759 --> 02:20:08,009
it's so messed up too

2346
02:20:08,039 --> 02:20:11,789
Ethiopia is like, Ethiopia is

2347
02:20:11,789 --> 02:20:15,779
was never colonized. Like it

2348
02:20:15,779 --> 02:20:18,599
colonizers against each other.

2349
02:20:18,599 --> 02:20:21,569
weapons from one side and use it

2350
02:20:21,569 --> 02:20:23,699
turn like they were never

2351
02:20:23,699 --> 02:20:26,249
kind of the only place in Africa

2352
02:20:26,459 --> 02:20:31,679
And now we're seeing Epstein,

2353
02:20:31,709 --> 02:20:34,799
this did shit is so especially

2354
02:20:34,799 --> 02:20:38,699
it's like, you're creating a

2355
02:20:39,539 --> 02:20:42,779
for that information to get

2356
02:20:42,779 --> 02:20:47,159
like, I mean, it's like, anytime

2357
02:20:47,159 --> 02:20:50,339
even KYC exchanges have to deal

2358
02:20:50,339 --> 02:20:55,319
think there was a lawsuit in

2359
02:20:55,319 --> 02:20:58,349
state where that was suing

2360
02:20:58,349 --> 02:21:00,749
their data of their, like 3d

2361
02:21:00,749 --> 02:21:04,109
whatever on a on a server that

2362
02:21:04,109 --> 02:21:07,889
all of that data got leaked.

2363
02:21:07,889 --> 02:21:11,669
accident. What these people are

2364
02:21:11,669 --> 02:21:16,739
know, Ethiopia with, it's like

2365
02:21:16,739 --> 02:21:17,699
really messed up. And

2366
02:21:17,700 --> 02:21:20,550
this is what sustainable

2367
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:25,440
again, I've been captured by by

2368
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:29,550
is a banker design vision,

2369
02:21:29,550 --> 02:21:34,110
Bitcoin to own the bankers?

2370
02:21:34,110 --> 02:21:38,340
whatever. You What are you

2371
02:21:38,340 --> 02:21:41,430
would say that, I'd say the

2372
02:21:41,430 --> 02:21:47,520
understand that, I think, yeah,

2373
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:52,560
basically bastardization of what

2374
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:55,950
centralized banking, I think

2375
02:21:55,950 --> 02:22:02,160
of stake that there's like a

2376
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:05,460
like, people can get that, but

2377
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:10,800
like, people just love to scam

2378
02:22:10,830 --> 02:22:16,110
why the economic, you know, you

2379
02:22:16,110 --> 02:22:18,660
citizens and is set to enrich

2380
02:22:18,660 --> 02:22:22,560
really get into that at rocket

2381
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:25,980
have necessarily an open mind to

2382
02:22:25,980 --> 02:22:31,080
disgusting this really is. And I

2383
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:33,330
really interesting thing,

2384
02:22:33,330 --> 02:22:37,470
some really cool use cases with

2385
02:22:37,470 --> 02:22:41,700
they're self hosted and

2386
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:43,680
you can create results.

2387
02:22:45,630 --> 02:22:51,660
Most people aren't going to

2388
02:22:51,660 --> 02:22:51,810
That's

2389
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:57,990
totally. Right. Right,

2390
02:22:57,990 --> 02:23:00,690
decentralized, the biggest one

2391
02:23:00,690 --> 02:23:04,830
are, there's a whole bunch of

2392
02:23:05,160 --> 02:23:07,620
feel comfortable sharing some of

2393
02:23:07,620 --> 02:23:12,720
to be a lot of movement

2394
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:17,160
standards. And that is sort of

2395
02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:21,630
was called by. And that was a

2396
02:23:21,630 --> 02:23:27,390
this guy, Daniel burgers, super

2397
02:23:27,390 --> 02:23:32,340
he's working for block. Jack

2398
02:23:32,370 --> 02:23:38,610
company. And they're working on

2399
02:23:38,610 --> 02:23:41,550
far as I know, is about to have

2400
02:23:41,550 --> 02:23:45,240
whole thing about digital IDs in

2401
02:23:45,240 --> 02:23:51,540
if someone with a huge, huge

2402
02:23:51,540 --> 02:23:55,890
know, sort of coalition, it you

2403
02:23:55,890 --> 02:23:59,100
standard, right? And so things

2404
02:23:59,100 --> 02:24:03,900
that a very, very, very big,

2405
02:24:03,900 --> 02:24:06,480
California is going to be

2406
02:24:06,480 --> 02:24:07,920
service standards. Yeah.

2407
02:24:08,670 --> 02:24:11,400
Any of that, though, like

2408
02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:15,510
consider the fact that like the

2409
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:19,440
unit, a 200, GCHQ, in the UK,

2410
02:24:19,440 --> 02:24:22,890
any device you have. Oh, yeah, I

2411
02:24:22,890 --> 02:24:27,180
just, it's like any sort of

2412
02:24:27,180 --> 02:24:29,700
certain measures, it's probably

2413
02:24:29,700 --> 02:24:32,640
for those agencies. So if your

2414
02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:35,730
to be, quote, unquote,

2415
02:24:35,730 --> 02:24:39,240
don't know if I'm going to get

2416
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:42,450
you know, people trying to build

2417
02:24:42,450 --> 02:24:45,060
our technology, yada, yada,

2418
02:24:45,060 --> 02:24:48,180
that, fine. I don't know if

2419
02:24:48,180 --> 02:24:50,280
that's going to get us out of

2420
02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:55,140
more about community building at

2421
02:24:55,140 --> 02:24:57,960
mean, at least people are, in a

2422
02:24:57,960 --> 02:25:01,320
but I personally, you know, I'm

2423
02:25:01,320 --> 02:25:07,710
period. So Brian put a different

2424
02:25:07,710 --> 02:25:11,190
know, I see it as a sitting duck

2425
02:25:11,220 --> 02:25:16,650
I agree 99% Like I

2426
02:25:16,650 --> 02:25:21,420
you're curve creating, I mean

2427
02:25:21,450 --> 02:25:26,430
attack surface anytime you put

2428
02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:29,130
a computer. I do think like

2429
02:25:29,130 --> 02:25:31,530
do, and even people that are

2430
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:32,400
know things.

2431
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,310
And I do that too. I mean,

2432
02:25:38,310 --> 02:25:42,030
I'm pretty public, with like,

2433
02:25:42,030 --> 02:25:45,960
and whatever. And that's not all

2434
02:25:45,960 --> 02:25:50,820
think like there is absolute

2435
02:25:50,820 --> 02:25:54,510
some of these public key

2436
02:25:54,510 --> 02:25:59,070
encryption decryption schemes,

2437
02:25:59,070 --> 02:26:01,440
they have been attacked by the

2438
02:26:01,470 --> 02:26:04,710
cryptography like, you know,

2439
02:26:04,710 --> 02:26:08,460
know, munitions basically. And

2440
02:26:08,490 --> 02:26:11,580
you know, issue that this

2441
02:26:11,580 --> 02:26:14,520
And so a lot of these OG

2442
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:17,010
shirts, they released it as

2443
02:26:17,010 --> 02:26:20,490
to, to, you know, Phil Zimmerman

2444
02:26:20,490 --> 02:26:23,520
could actually be used by people

2445
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,520
well it will also be used by

2446
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:30,120
agencies, and all these people

2447
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:30,390
thing,

2448
02:26:30,390 --> 02:26:33,180
I see what you're saying,

2449
02:26:33,180 --> 02:26:35,880
just get them in their hands

2450
02:26:35,880 --> 02:26:38,880
they're going to use it, I can,

2451
02:26:38,880 --> 02:26:39,480
same time,

2452
02:26:39,510 --> 02:26:41,550
I think you're totally

2453
02:26:41,550 --> 02:26:45,780
very wary of all of these

2454
02:26:45,780 --> 02:26:48,360
I, you know, I've basically

2455
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:52,650
Bitcoin, education or

2456
02:26:52,650 --> 02:26:57,690
still think that there's a less

2457
02:26:57,690 --> 02:27:01,200
that it was intelligence

2458
02:27:01,200 --> 02:27:03,630
creation, but I can still see

2459
02:27:03,630 --> 02:27:08,070
tools, regardless in a in a

2460
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:12,330
generation, which I think is

2461
02:27:12,330 --> 02:27:15,090
obviously, that's why I'm so

2462
02:27:15,090 --> 02:27:18,420
need to push back on this stuff,

2463
02:27:18,420 --> 02:27:22,590
opted so easily. And it is just

2464
02:27:22,590 --> 02:27:23,010
into.

2465
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:26,580
Totally. Well, we probably

2466
02:27:26,580 --> 02:27:29,100
this has definitely gone on

2467
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:32,700
tend to but I think it was a

2468
02:27:32,700 --> 02:27:35,700
because a lot of stuff isn't

2469
02:27:35,700 --> 02:27:37,800
what you've talked about, and

2470
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:40,830
really being said, especially in

2471
02:27:40,830 --> 02:27:44,550
hope more people with the same

2472
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:48,060
you have in the Bitcoin space do

2473
02:27:48,060 --> 02:27:51,480
to differentiate themselves from

2474
02:27:51,480 --> 02:27:54,660
because there are people that

2475
02:27:54,660 --> 02:27:56,490
And I don't really think you

2476
02:27:56,490 --> 02:27:59,220
people like you and others like

2477
02:27:59,220 --> 02:28:03,300
more voices that are added, you

2478
02:28:03,300 --> 02:28:06,900
better off we will be. But you

2479
02:28:06,900 --> 02:28:09,510
that you have an up coming book

2480
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:13,260
discussed today, the Bitcoin

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where, what, what details

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book, you know, why don't you

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people can follow you on social

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Yeah, totally. So, yeah, the

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bit. I literally got a message

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talking to you right now, so

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about some other things. So

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hoping to have it out in time

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couple of weeks ago.

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to happen, but I'm thinking

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months, certainly by the end of

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think just so many of the things

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of already playing out. You

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I've written about is available

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kind of search by author, you

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find me there I've written a lot

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dollar stable coins, the you

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Bitcoin dollar was kind of my

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And that kind of sets the tone

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publishing with Bitcoin magazine

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about. We are continuing the

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you know, I run the editorial

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we're very stoked that you've

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which is awesome. We hope. Well,

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Yep. And that's a bunch of times

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you can definitely find us

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magazine.com. You can follow me

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an underscore between the W and

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see y'all out on the

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stuff because it's super

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thanks so much for having me.

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I definitely think it's a

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of people don't see that. I

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war. And I think right now to an

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that. So I think this is a big,

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you've shared today, I think is

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for the coiners I hope more will

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they're on because it really is

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picking sides. Are you going to

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banker built dystopia? Or are we

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different? And you know, it's

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definitely. And I think the more

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you're going to see these

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that are building that with

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and even with dollarized Bitcoin

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on the side against all of that,

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more of that in the not so

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who knows how much time we have

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censored internet. You know?

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I agree. Yeah. Reality.

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Alright. Well, thanks so

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Really enjoyed this

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ran really long, but I really

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again. Thanks for your time.

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And please feel free to share

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everyone, as always that

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it possible. couldn't do this

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on the next episode. Thanks so