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Hey, and welcome back to

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Whitney Webb. The past few weeks

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American politics to say the

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focus on Peter Thiel, the man

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vice presidential pick J.D.

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influence on now very likely

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noted in a recent article

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Hangout, Thiel is responsible

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short political career, as well

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relationship with Trump, but

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career that preceded it. Thiel,

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most misunderstood billionaire

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in the United States. And I

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spent a small fortune to frame

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him as a libertarian and as anti

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decisions, particularly those

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well as many of his investments

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different political persuasion.

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PayPal to Palantir incubated

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agencies From their inception,

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and other forms of incredibly

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surveillance against innocent

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include companies tied to

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now taking over us 911 Call

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data from your smartphone and

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well as companies ushering in an

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currently being piloted by the

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IDF in Gaza. What will Thiel's

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significant during Trump's first

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particularly with his protege

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me today to discuss this and

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is an unlimited hangout

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to several other sites,

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for doctress and the gray zone

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the link to which we will be

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is based in Greece and is also a

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student. Thanks so much for

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great to have you back on

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Thanks so much for having me

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I am too because not a lot

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write about Peter Thiel, but you

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great ones for unlimited

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that later. But first off, I

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listeners, it would be good to

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connection between J.D. Vance

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subject of a recent article that

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unlimited Hangout, as I

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Man Behind Trump's VP Pick, It's

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that article, I discussed how

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Vance into his circle, while

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School. And shortly thereafter,

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investment firm, one of several,

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mithril capital. He worked there

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revolution ventures, which is

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and running it's Rise of the

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created his own venture capital

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which was heavily backed by

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CEO Eric Schmidt, who's actually

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paying a lot of staff in Biden's

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though it's been widely reported

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Technology Policy of the Biden

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national security state by

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Commission on AI pretty crazy.

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Thiel, rather, are both key

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committee of the Bilderberg

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agree on a lot more than they

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doors like is the situation at

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Thiel donated heavily to Vance

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launched during the 2022

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million to Vance's then Senate

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largest donation ever given to

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that's pretty significant

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and that cycle was a never

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Trump to Hitler and things like

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some Republicans at the time, of

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Thiel was the person that

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Mar-a-Lago to sort of smooth

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prominent Silicon Valley donors,

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part of the so called PayPal

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with Thiel Elon Musk, had was a

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of Vance for VP along with David

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like it's pretty clear and not

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from you know, reporting pretty

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soon as the pic was announced a

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discussing expressly the close

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J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel. And

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essentially a protege of Thiel.

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good time to sort of get into

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matters, as well as perhaps a

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protegees, which Stavroula and I

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rather, you've written about Sam

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he is an important one to keep

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just of in OpenAI, but also with

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that hopes to develop into. But

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Luckey, as well, who's behind

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talking about Peter Thiel. I

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some work on his political

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think that's probably a good

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tell us? Sure.

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when people are discussing Peter

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will comment that he's

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think anything he actually does

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libertarian belief, right? Yeah.

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not agree more. Yeah, like,

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it's just, it's just not in

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think the best way to really

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I was doing research for this

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video clip where he was

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he viewed technology as an

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believe he said this. No, I

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quote, he essentially was like,

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to beg and plead with people to

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way. But what if we, you know,

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if I and the few people who

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could change things through

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essentially saying, For this

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amazing alternative politics.

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explains pretty well, what he

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he's done over the last, you

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decades now, really is that he

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his name over essentially

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industry, through Founders Fund,

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capital firm, he's essentially

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biggest names in tech, including

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Palantir, Meta, OpenAI, etc. You

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going to throw his weight that

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found one of these companies, or

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amount of money, I'm I'm sure

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some respect, he's bought some

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some amount of influence from

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think that he kind of

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understands this is that if he

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can make things happen that way,

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powerful and do things his way.

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reasonable way to describe him.

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for this article, I think

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Schmidt were two of the most

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that had written a biography on

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of the most powerful if not the

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technology as an alternative to

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doesn't really matter. Thiel

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successfully. And, you know,

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pointing out is that he just

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to burn. And I would actually

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applying the principles of

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geopolitics as we know it. You

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think, you know, if we see

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where, okay, I'm a venture

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money to invest in companies. I

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will fail. But a vast, the small

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not just seeing this about the

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to the extent that he can obtain

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this respect, it's important to

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very young age people that he

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people, look, if I give you this

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develop whatever idea you would

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you have to drop out of college.

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that he's been able to find

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the founder, the founder of

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of Ethereum. So he's been able

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bright minds this way. Give them

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very successful ideas. And

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the Tarik and Thiel right now.

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Thiel gives you this fellowship,

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career happen for you. It's

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political sector so that he's on

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of everything. And with this

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going to gain both sides. He has

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be able to do it. And I think

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because he's helped them to this

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network that functions somewhat

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sponsors focuses on sponsoring,

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expressly in the emerging world.

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to be the rails on which this

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herded to runs on on Latin

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has bankrolled a lot of people

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him as this libertarian figure,

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more like, right leaning. But

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a lot of you know, what he's

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the national security state,

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administration. And has, like

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know, America first and Palmer

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say, you know, whichever of

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recent article, clear view, a

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identify almost like 1000 people

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that, obviously, that's a sales

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supporters, obviously. And then

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to people like you know, Biden's

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Haines, a longtime consultant of

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how he's used Palantir to stop

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quote unquote, far right in the

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the libertarian camp or more

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now much more in the in the

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transition team with an outsized

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which resulted in quote unquote,

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likely to see that again. And as

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for the fact that he's given the

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and Orwellian. And like,

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arsenal, both like literally and

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pretty open that he views

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way he approaches business, is

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and to corner that market

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because competition is bad for

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free market libertarian and

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basically, you know, saying you

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you look at Peter, how Peter

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whether it's PayPal or Palantir,

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national security state from the

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help you build and maintain

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after you for having a monopoly.

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wheelhouse, essentially. So I

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techno fascist is probably the

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regardless, I just kind of

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label, because I understand what

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of, its what you pointed out. I

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the surveillance state in a

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out to people listening his role

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really is about significant data

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And I think if we look at some

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such as  Carbyne911, that is

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surveillance, where I think, I

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on this than I have, but my

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that it's essentially this

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intelligence linked company that

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you make a call to it, it can

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consumer smartphone. And so this

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juice up surveillance, let's say

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that is to be able to try to

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light post stuff like this that

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the authorities and seven person

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and I think ClearView AI is

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in that respect in terms of okay

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Thiel says, of his libertarian

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something like ClearView AI?

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he's not actually interested in

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people see it. And I think

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ClearView AI, and I think you've

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ClearView AI is essentially

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of this way to try to come back

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relations moment where it can

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obviously, it had been banned

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in the past simply because it

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person would see that ClearView

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for your face. And it's storing

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say I dislike this. And I think

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thing with January 6, it's been

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to use this war time moment in

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the Ukrainian military. See,

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recognition technologies because

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war or something like this, it's

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want Ukraine to win is

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to say with that. So just Peter

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assisting these projects that

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surveillance, um, you know,

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actually interested in anything

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important to say about that, is

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operating a lot and Ukraine

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going to come back to the United

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just the private domestic

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think um, the other thing that's

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support of Aduril in the sense

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this whole surveillance wall in

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from like, almost three

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them, you're learning the tech

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definitely going to be applied

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domestic sphere, right?

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Yeah, I think that's

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deploying it or getting ready to

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sphere. I mean, people need to

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stuff that was originally

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terror, and of course, Palantir

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those programs, which you

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Information Awareness, the

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have it come home to roost and

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terror. They tried to sort of

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the mid 1990s, after the wake of

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the target of that, quote,

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veterans, militia members,

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generally, those tend to be sort

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constitution. Conservatives,

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in my opinion, through Thiel,

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other people that are sort of,

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sphere now is sort of to get the

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the surveillance to essentially

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as you know, like Anduril's

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building, you know, this has

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the mass migration issue with

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it's been deployed for several

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nothing to stem the tide of, you

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over the US Mexico border, and

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time, you know, promoting the

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smart wall as opposed to a

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answer to Trump's first campaign

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During his first campaign of

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then when Trump was in office,

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building a physical barrier and

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of the smart wall. And the smart

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continued under the Biden

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with Trump on the campaign trail

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a how we desperately the United

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biometric entry exit system for

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setting it up, ClearView AI has

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they're not just going to roll

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to be all ports of entry. And I

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tie in there with the DHS effort

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requirements for people. And

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know, claimed to be against this

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for example, promoting and

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Floridians already the Florida

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it's very likely that we're

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that, under a second Trump

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Thiel funded companies are

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these systems systems to come.

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global agenda, which again, I

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Peter Thiel's connection to

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global policies are sort of

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of course, not the only place,

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Forum annual meeting, and

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other conferences they have,

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planned out and discussed. But

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is in line with the UN agenda

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global goals, particularly SDG

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implementing partner of and they

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goals. And the United States and

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the world are members of ember,

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this biometric digital ID system

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a lot of the beta testing for

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during COVID, web with vaccine

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think these agendas are being

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to Trump's base, you know, as we

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United States, and it seems like

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not just to the migration issue.

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ID thing is going to be, you

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biometric ID to vote as opposed

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wanting like a physical Id like

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like all the ideas we've had

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pushes from this within the

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very much in line with what

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Valley, big tech oligarchs

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think, you know, they've,

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people on the quote, unquote,

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it to people in the quote

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Thiel in particular is a big

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technology in this this these

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on the quote unquote, right,

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problems are bothering them the

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is that I mean, if you think

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border wall, you know, as you've

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know, doesn't just create drones

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create drones that murder

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becoming, you know, taking

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decision making. And there's

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space. And this military

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complex that we have to also put

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all of this. So I know you've

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You know, what do you see this

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think it's going to stop with

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the border that are, you know,

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identifying people's faces with

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number of potential facial

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it's likely to expand into

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Orwellian and potentially

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Sure, I suppose I can talk a

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surveillance, but also, I can

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Thiel backed companies role in

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playing out in Ukraine. Would

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of both? Yeah, sure. I think

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good. I think I think what's

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interested in this topic,

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reporting on it. But it's really

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reading about how AI is

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the battlefield, or at least

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back companies and not to back

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Thiel, companies that are doing

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what's really critical is that a

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are acting in Ukraine are Thiel

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a little bit about ClearView AI.

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really important to talk about

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component, and the normalization

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technologies and wartime and

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know, if we think a little bit

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their work with AI powered

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that it I find this stuff to be

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don't think that it's being

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public sphere whatsoever, to be

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some of the current contracts,

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or projects that they're working

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for example, I could tell you a

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artificial intelligence platform

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their demo online. But

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here is that Palantir has used

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data, data synthesis, data

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whatnot. So they're essentially

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ChatGPT, like chat bot, you can

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gives you the information, it's

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enemy, that's three kilometers

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you suggestions based on the

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what you can do about this

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is now suggesting you could hit

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want to do that the person on

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then it would essentially

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That's one of the more prominent

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look into, for example, I think

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on military AI are working on

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used to power military

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done. Unfortunately, in the Gaza

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and lavender systems are both

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that can select targets much

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Yeah.

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How do you feel about the

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it more efficient and more

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proponents have claimed? No,

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I in fact, I think it's not

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funny how unreasonable the

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of the accuracy. It's my

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tech isn't necessarily super

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also it's not, it's not, first

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say on top of that, is that I

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Israel, for example, I think a

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these AI powered devices, you

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is a human The loop which makes

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joke, but essentially what's

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one operating these AI powered

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checks. What is being suggested

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just going along with what the

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this, this AI powered targeting

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family. I don't know that

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even going in and checking.

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And I think what's really

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that in the case of Israel, for

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easy for them to use this. Ai

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don't know whether that would

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that Israel cares. But this type

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because I think they're trying

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that this depersonalizes war, in

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aren't doing so much of it

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they're doing dying. Oh, they're

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sure. They're definitely dying.

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people that are using these

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see, we're using the software,

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will die. That's not actually

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going to try to use this later

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Yeah, it gives them

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between the decision and the

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and they can blame the software.

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not just for AI as well in the

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put AI in charge of major

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there's a push for that as well.

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unpopular or catastrophic

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like, Oh, well, this is what the

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smarter than us, or, you know,

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Schmidt argument that AI is

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decision making, that it can't

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decisions to people. And that's

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intelligence. But really, it

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computer says, Yes, computer

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are supposedly in the loop, um,

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with these algorithms, you know,

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us and I think that's why it's

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the people that are funding and

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coders of the software programs,

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are essentially deciding how

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there's not a lot of really

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of sales pitches that tout a

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but those are not independently

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And sometimes, you know, the

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terms of accuracy, you know, 75%

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like that. And if it's life or

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Shouldn't it be as close to 100

537
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pretty bad, honestly. Yeah, um,

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it's important to keep in mind

539
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Gaza situation goes, it's been

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you know, Israeli surveillance

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extremely overreaching for a

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00:33:06,090 --> 00:33:08,970
lot of, you know, surveillance,

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of sucking stuff, sucking up

544
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Palestinians online activity and

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how much of that profiling just

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activity has been used to decide

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you consider that this is an

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populated. There's a lot of

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cousin of a Hamas member, but

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with them. Is that enough to get

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what we've seen in Gaza, it

552
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sort of goes against the idea of

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efficient war. But that's been

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it's, um, you know, honestly,

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very, you know, divorced from

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this is very concerning, because

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have grown in recent weeks for

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00:33:59,910 --> 00:34:03,600
Erik Prince in charge of the

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you know, best known for being

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essentially ran a CIA death

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the war on terror, but has since

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around sort of arguing that the

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privatize its wars. And he

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that the military industrial

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incompetent and very corrupt.

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know, perhaps putting in some of

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like Anduril, for example, or

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being used in Gaza, or you know,

569
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:41,730
that we've been talking about,

570
00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:45,900
and more efficient. That is

571
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:49,050
So if someone like Prince does

572
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:53,670
privatize off the wars, to quote

573
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:57,000
the military industrial complex,

574
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,120
be any better? And I certainly

575
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,570
think you know, we were losing

576
00:35:03,570 --> 00:35:07,350
it becomes about AI powered

577
00:35:07,350 --> 00:35:10,470
more Imperial wars, I mean, I

578
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:12,750
in the United States, it's been

579
00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:16,410
people are tired of the Imperial

580
00:35:16,410 --> 00:35:20,550
them as leaner and cheaper,

581
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:23,820
be aI powered, misses the whole

582
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:27,300
wars, because we know when these

583
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:31,350
increased instability increase,

584
00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:34,470
against Americans and other

585
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:37,500
not in the US National. And I

586
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,350
how it's just gone horribly,

587
00:35:40,350 --> 00:35:44,340
going to continue doing them

588
00:35:44,340 --> 00:35:47,220
we know isn't accurate and

589
00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:50,010
the exact same result, maybe

590
00:35:50,010 --> 00:35:53,280
because it's drones on the

591
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,970
what the best we can do? And

592
00:35:56,970 --> 00:36:00,840
seems to me, you know, just sort

593
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,930
same systems have, as you and I

594
00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:06,210
on earlier are going to be

595
00:36:06,210 --> 00:36:08,430
States for the purpose of

596
00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:11,430
control. Because the war on

597
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:14,730
terror have always gone hand in

598
00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:18,030
the United States has been just

599
00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:22,500
world, by US intelligence. And

600
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:26,550
Americans as well, profiles them

601
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:29,520
CIA's naughty list in case the

602
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,700
protocols are ever formally

603
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,490
you know, this is really not the

604
00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:38,250
be supporting. But there's a lot

605
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:41,160
it right now, unfortunately,

606
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920
years, people that would know

607
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,710
left, right paradigm in the US

608
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:50,490
know, playing Team sports again.

609
00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:54,240
to this whole idea of like aI

610
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:58,410
enables isn't a more efficient

611
00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:00,840
way it makes the war machine

612
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,290
kill more people more quickly.

613
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:09,030
Yeah, that's the that's a

614
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:11,730
think that in that, I think,

615
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:16,140
to point that out. I mean, this

616
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:20,730
go on in this private, Ultra,

617
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:26,670
possible, Trump pick would

618
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:30,690
seem really interested in making

619
00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:35,190
possible. And I think AI power

620
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:39,450
that. And I think Anduril, for

621
00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:43,740
lattice operating system that

622
00:37:43,740 --> 00:37:47,580
operator to command like

623
00:37:47,610 --> 00:37:52,260
sure, it may be cheaper for you

624
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:58,140
than actually train soldiers to

625
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:03,510
causing is it's paving the way

626
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:07,110
war. And I find that to be very

627
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:10,980
we put if politicians

628
00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:15,390
for this type of, let's say,

629
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:20,010
space, but also not really

630
00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:24,090
our relationships with war

631
00:38:24,090 --> 00:38:27,510
actually be a consideration or a

632
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:31,260
only going to become more and

633
00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:35,430
that it's also just too bad.

634
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:39,570
that it's election time, we're

635
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:42,870
Biden dropping, dropping out is

636
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:47,250
know, do I think Trump, Kamala

637
00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:51,000
actually interested in

638
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,160
policies in a meaningful way?

639
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,060
that J.D. Vance has questioned

640
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:04,260
support, or sorry, I support his

641
00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:07,500
support of Israel, but also his

642
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,950
want to do to Iran where I guess

643
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:14,850
he said, you know,

644
00:39:14,850 --> 00:39:19,560
with an overall status quo where

645
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,890
of people at the very top are

646
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,610
We're, you know, unfortunately,

647
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:30,120
system in this matter, we're

648
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,390
dealing with the continuation of

649
00:39:33,390 --> 00:39:38,220
AI in, it's slated to just make

650
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:41,970
I mean, I'm definitely concerned

651
00:39:41,970 --> 00:39:45,720
concerns me that Trump is being

652
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,260
establishment candidate,

653
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,070
appointment because going back

654
00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:58,260
essentially as far as I see it.

655
00:39:58,260 --> 00:40:01,890
the military industrial complex.

656
00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:06,780
Valley. That's the way I see

657
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:10,380
think I think that anybody who

658
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:14,880
needs to be mindful of Thiel's

659
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,890
way. Because what it could mean

660
00:40:19,890 --> 00:40:23,880
someone like Thiel, who is very

661
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,990
direction of technology to his

662
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:31,920
again, that just means we're

663
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,730
environment that really, I think

664
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:39,120
of no return, depending on where

665
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:44,280
Yeah, I think that's

666
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,010
definitely agree with your

667
00:40:47,010 --> 00:40:49,230
But I would consider people who

668
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:51,960
unquote, Silicon Valley ticket

669
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,140
Silicon Valley in the military

670
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,680
it's more of a military

671
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:02,160
don't leave out the intelligence

672
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,360
military what to do sometimes.

673
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,560
fused Silicon Valley double is

674
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,460
military, and also intelligence

675
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:17,070
particularly true of this. You

676
00:41:17,070 --> 00:41:19,350
years, the Thiel verse that

677
00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:22,170
call it the PayPal Mafia, but I

678
00:41:22,170 --> 00:41:24,960
encompasses aspects of PayPal

679
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,760
protegees, and Thiel fellows and

680
00:41:29,790 --> 00:41:33,630
they're all in to sort of

681
00:41:33,630 --> 00:41:36,120
military industrial complex. And

682
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,540
dichotomy to sort of be like,

683
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:43,650
military industrial complex, and

684
00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:46,920
know, there, you're essentially

685
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,810
end of the day, but something

686
00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:50,850
come up a few times, and I know

687
00:41:50,850 --> 00:41:54,900
extensively about Peter Thiel,

688
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:58,710
or backed or co founded and

689
00:41:58,710 --> 00:42:02,820
major, you know, political issue

690
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:05,970
for the war in Ukraine,

691
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:10,470
backing the Ukrainian side. And

692
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:15,600
against that, do you think it's

693
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,720
second Trump administration that

694
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,710
prevent the you know, sort of

695
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:26,490
Ukrainian government since some

696
00:42:26,490 --> 00:42:29,610
become or, you know, to founded

697
00:42:29,610 --> 00:42:32,100
intimately involved in the

698
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,290
I think this is something

699
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:41,820
you know, the way I do see it is

700
00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:44,880
of political candidates, and

701
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,040
quite clear about their stance,

702
00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:53,550
Vance is clearly telling us he

703
00:42:53,550 --> 00:42:58,350
reconsideration as to whether

704
00:42:58,350 --> 00:43:02,250
United States moving forward.

705
00:43:02,250 --> 00:43:06,780
tell what J.D. Vance says Now,

706
00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:10,770
becomes Vice President, could be

707
00:43:10,770 --> 00:43:14,400
think we can say that based on

708
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,550
disparity between what

709
00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:20,610
into office, and then what

710
00:43:20,610 --> 00:43:25,290
office. And I think in this

711
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:29,760
highlight a little bit of

712
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:34,380
Vance throughout his career.

713
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:40,170
close. And so when we understand

714
00:43:40,170 --> 00:43:44,370
know, these companies Anduril,

715
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,200
definitely benefit from the war

716
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,350
calculate and articulate but

717
00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,790
essentially able to use Ukraine

718
00:43:56,790 --> 00:44:00,450
going to want to say goodbye to

719
00:44:00,450 --> 00:44:05,670
how much it would help his

720
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:08,850
have to imagine if he really

721
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:12,840
affairs regarding the war in

722
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,650
simply based on the fact that

723
00:44:16,650 --> 00:44:20,790
helped. He's helped fund a

724
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:24,480
congressional candidates. He has

725
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,720
States Government at a number of

726
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:32,280
have to assume that if he really

727
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,730
perspective, regarding the

728
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:39,900
try to do it. But even if he

729
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:44,520
Peter Thiel, this is as far as I

730
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,240
is a bit of a long game for

731
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:52,830
thinks like a venture

732
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:56,850
and your real ClearView AI

733
00:44:56,850 --> 00:44:59,970
what they're doing in Ukraine.

734
00:44:59,970 --> 00:45:03,420
opportunities for them to be

735
00:45:03,420 --> 00:45:07,560
technologies elsewhere. And I

736
00:45:07,590 --> 00:45:12,180
the very powerful nature of the

737
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:16,320
lives, he has so many companies

738
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,180
some way indebted to him, just

739
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:25,350
even if these companies cannot

740
00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:29,100
things in Ukraine, they will be

741
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,730
And even if something happens to

742
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:36,210
companies that he has worked to

743
00:45:36,210 --> 00:45:41,820
else. So I guess my short answer

744
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:46,650
this changes or advances stance

745
00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:50,970
to his relationship with Thiel.

746
00:45:50,970 --> 00:45:55,740
if there is actually a

747
00:45:55,740 --> 00:45:59,910
States role in Ukraine, I think

748
00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:03,630
successful simply due to just

749
00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:06,630
and power he has over today's

750
00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:09,060
Yeah. So I absolutely agree

751
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:11,520
obviously going to have to see

752
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,430
that, you know, even if they do

753
00:46:14,430 --> 00:46:18,360
reduce or end American

754
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,550
government, I think it's really

755
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:23,430
war pop up somewhere else where

756
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:25,950
the case of an upcoming Trump

757
00:46:25,950 --> 00:46:29,580
to be ran at the end of the day,

758
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:32,700
Ukraine even started, you know,

759
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:37,590
Afghanistan war had been, you

760
00:46:37,590 --> 00:46:41,970
administration. And I think, you

761
00:46:41,970 --> 00:46:45,000
Afghanistan function for a long

762
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,320
way to sort of sum it up is this

763
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,740
Assange, quote, we're seeing the

764
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:56,400
It's an endless war, just

765
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,270
money laundering that has gone

766
00:47:00,270 --> 00:47:05,580
trafficking, other types of

767
00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:08,910
know, various other geopolitical

768
00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:13,110
when the US goes to war

769
00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:16,500
know, the fact that Afghanistan

770
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,140
gets wound down and they start

771
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:22,440
likely that if they do choose to

772
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,830
else will emerge elsewhere. And

773
00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:28,980
rhetoric about Iran

774
00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:31,770
Trump, and also now Vance, even

775
00:47:31,770 --> 00:47:34,650
before he was to be pick, VP

776
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:37,320
no to war with Iran, it's on

777
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,050
something. Um, it just shows you

778
00:47:40,050 --> 00:47:45,360
line when they, you know, are in

779
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:52,110
American politics. And if we

780
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:54,810
biggest donor in his first term,

781
00:47:54,810 --> 00:47:58,170
was the guy that is the reason

782
00:47:58,170 --> 00:48:02,130
Security Adviser. His big thing

783
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,050
Oh, yeah, it's insane. So I

784
00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:10,530
you know, a lot of donors that

785
00:48:10,530 --> 00:48:14,700
views, maybe not necessarily as

786
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:17,490
lobby, you know, that's backing

787
00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:20,100
lobby for some time in the

788
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,940
promoting the idea of going to

789
00:48:23,970 --> 00:48:26,730
considering that, you know, you

790
00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:30,330
that's likely to expand Well,

791
00:48:30,330 --> 00:48:33,210
been talks for months about it,

792
00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:36,540
expanding to limit Lebanon and

793
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:39,420
regional thing. You know, I

794
00:48:39,420 --> 00:48:41,460
that, and I think that's

795
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:44,910
aware of. So maybe, you know,

796
00:48:44,910 --> 00:48:47,580
just be like, Oh, as long as he

797
00:48:47,580 --> 00:48:49,680
Ukraine, that's enough, it

798
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,180
Imperial wars, that create all

799
00:48:54,180 --> 00:48:58,650
But again, the instability

800
00:48:58,650 --> 00:49:01,350
ties to Trump, a great example

801
00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:03,990
BlackRock, which I know, You've

802
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:07,560
with Ukraine. But, you know,

803
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,370
sweep up a lot of distressed

804
00:49:11,370 --> 00:49:14,790
countries, and also not war torn

805
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:17,790
countries that are, you know,

806
00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:22,170
reasons, like Argentina, for

807
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:28,290
that stuff is also important to

808
00:49:28,290 --> 00:49:31,650
on from that, I do want to sort

809
00:49:31,650 --> 00:49:33,930
of the steel founded companies

810
00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:38,430
facilitating this push into

811
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:42,570
really, all of that, you know, I

812
00:49:42,570 --> 00:49:46,020
resurfaced some links to

813
00:49:46,020 --> 00:49:48,330
previously, back when I was a

814
00:49:48,330 --> 00:49:52,080
during the the first Trump

815
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,260
aftermath of the El Paso Walmart

816
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:59,340
tech to develop software to

817
00:49:59,370 --> 00:50:04,530
stop shootings before they can

818
00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:07,620
be applied to stop crime before

819
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:11,160
Republican stance generally has

820
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,150
party, I think there's a real

821
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,110
being supercharged under a

822
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:22,080
Thiel's influence there is

823
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,950
Palantir, since its earliest

824
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,900
develop into this pre crime

825
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:34,050
mining and profiling Americans

826
00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:36,630
and other activity that's

827
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:40,320
who may or may not be a threat.

828
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,980
people that way, you know,

829
00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:46,680
of predictive policing, which is

830
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,730
piloting in the United States

831
00:50:50,730 --> 00:50:54,330
they started piloting it, I

832
00:50:54,330 --> 00:50:56,820
expanded beyond, but they've

833
00:50:57,030 --> 00:51:00,480
particularly, as far as their

834
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,110
Angeles Police Department goes

835
00:51:04,110 --> 00:51:06,300
a lot of this predictive

836
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:11,220
neighborhoods of predominantly

837
00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:14,190
time, and I've written in the

838
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:20,130
race aware and honestly race

839
00:51:20,130 --> 00:51:23,430
interesting, I should say,

840
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:27,690
component of the company. If

841
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:30,210
will put my article that talks

842
00:51:30,210 --> 00:51:33,330
shownotes. That was an article I

843
00:51:33,330 --> 00:51:37,590
warp speed and race series

844
00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:40,710
unfortunately, that's actually

845
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:44,130
discussion, because a lot of the

846
00:51:44,130 --> 00:51:48,570
with healthcare, and healthcare

847
00:51:49,260 --> 00:51:52,980
basically runs most of American

848
00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:55,260
something that happened again,

849
00:51:55,260 --> 00:51:59,100
during COVID-19. Through the

850
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:04,410
like HHS, HHS, protect the

851
00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:10,050
Palantir, to HHS. And there's,

852
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,510
under the Biden administration,

853
00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:15,960
those contracts for Palantir and

854
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,650
expanded them, they now include

855
00:52:19,650 --> 00:52:22,230
another several years, and

856
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:24,810
the next president sort of

857
00:52:24,810 --> 00:52:29,460
bipartisan agenda. And there's

858
00:52:29,460 --> 00:52:35,880
using pre crime, to, we're sort

859
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,110
mental health, with concerns

860
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:43,230
crime. And we're in, you can

861
00:52:43,230 --> 00:52:46,560
in Palantir. And also some of

862
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,320
pitched during the Trump

863
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,470
about before, like the safe

864
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:55,890
to be the flagship program of

865
00:52:55,890 --> 00:53:00,930
care focused and DARPA agency

866
00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:03,240
heavily to Trump during his

867
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,750
made that agency, it's called

868
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:09,480
to the end, but the safe homes

869
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,350
these all of this data from you

870
00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:18,360
devices. So including wearables,

871
00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:22,650
also Amazon Echo, you know, the

872
00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:26,370
Apple TV, all of these things,

873
00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:29,040
the public online activities,

874
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,730
media, and use AI to profile

875
00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:37,320
were showing early signs of

876
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,230
then could sort of be triaged,

877
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:44,400
either, you know, go to see a

878
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,550
arrest or preventative

879
00:53:47,550 --> 00:53:51,510
prison without trial,

880
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:55,110
things are being developed by

881
00:53:55,110 --> 00:53:59,760
it's, you know, even Orwellian.

882
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,370
know, I don't really have a lot

883
00:54:02,370 --> 00:54:07,350
of Trump's first term, that this

884
00:54:07,350 --> 00:54:11,070
be, you know, implemented slow,

885
00:54:11,070 --> 00:54:13,410
administration than any other

886
00:54:13,410 --> 00:54:16,830
regardless of what party wins in

887
00:54:16,830 --> 00:54:21,330
ultimately, Silicon Valley, and

888
00:54:21,330 --> 00:54:24,840
security state is going to be

889
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,730
you have any insight into sort

890
00:54:29,730 --> 00:54:34,980
healthcare and and policing

891
00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:40,110
on that setup and its, you know,

892
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,880
freedom? I

893
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,400
mean, I think the primary

894
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:51,030
about it is that clearly nothing

895
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:54,780
surveillance effort. Right.

896
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:58,260
and it's my understanding

897
00:54:58,290 --> 00:55:01,170
those systems they still have

898
00:55:01,170 --> 00:55:05,640
they're not going to get rid of

899
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,140
away from it is that they, they

900
00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:14,820
everything. That is become

901
00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:17,610
Peter Thiel has founded and

902
00:55:17,610 --> 00:55:22,380
Palantir specifically plays a

903
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:25,620
think a critical point here

904
00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:31,350
just become so normal that we

905
00:55:31,350 --> 00:55:34,380
and all these arrangements,

906
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:38,880
fair to simply say that Palantir

907
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,510
but sure, it's just, it

908
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:46,860
you know, what's happening is

909
00:55:46,860 --> 00:55:52,200
government to say, I'm going to

910
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:57,780
okay, that Americans healthcare

911
00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:01,920
utilized by this company in this

912
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,770
similar thing with okay, this is

913
00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:08,850
it's a little bit similar with

914
00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:12,030
think it also has significant

915
00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:15,720
need to be discussed, but Oracle

916
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:19,680
working, I think it literally

917
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,210
Right now to operate cloud

918
00:56:24,210 --> 00:56:28,530
the globe, I don't know to what

919
00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:31,140
or not, but they're kind of

920
00:56:31,140 --> 00:56:36,360
what we're seeing is that it's

921
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,960
partner with the private sphere.

922
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,350
examples I just referenced, it

923
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:47,070
companies are actually at least

924
00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:51,000
It's all bleeding together. And

925
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,470
that civilian data in any

926
00:56:55,770 --> 00:57:00,450
whether it be I don't know about

927
00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:03,810
considering the capacity of

928
00:57:03,810 --> 00:57:07,020
is okay to capture in this

929
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:11,730
Peter Thiel, through his

930
00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:17,430
Tia spinoffs, aka Palantir, aka

931
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:21,060
this type of thing. And so now,

932
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:25,080
in any country, but definitely

933
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:30,360
that their data is now subjected

934
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,150
authorities, and then that's

935
00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:34,140
all times.

936
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:38,160
Yeah, definitely makes sense

937
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,980
being a CIA front goes for

938
00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:44,340
want to throw some info out

939
00:57:44,340 --> 00:57:47,550
haven't read, you know, my past

940
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:50,790
Palantir and their their

941
00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:54,030
funder was the CIA's and que

942
00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:57,780
client. For the first I don't

943
00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:02,550
their existence as a company.

944
00:58:02,790 --> 00:58:06,210
their top engineers made over

945
00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:10,440
in Langley, Virginia. And since

946
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,270
contracting partner of the CIA,

947
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:20,310
intelligence agency. There's 18

948
00:58:20,310 --> 00:58:25,410
include SpaceForce. And, you

949
00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:28,530
any deeper ties than that. And

950
00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:32,490
my work, Palantir was the effort

951
00:58:32,490 --> 00:58:35,940
awareness, which was really

952
00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:38,730
run by an Iran Contra criminal

953
00:58:38,730 --> 00:58:40,890
and John Poindexter, but he was

954
00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:44,730
collaboration with the CIA. And

955
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:47,610
privatization effort as well.

956
00:58:47,610 --> 00:58:51,210
tel, involved, and I think it's

957
00:58:51,210 --> 00:58:54,390
of like this, quote, unquote,

958
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:57,540
like Trump and Peter Thiel, and

959
00:58:57,540 --> 00:59:00,570
and some of these other people.

960
00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:03,810
associate with, it's that

961
00:59:03,810 --> 00:59:06,810
find a lot of connections to the

962
00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:10,680
people like Ed Meese Reagan's

963
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,560
adviser to Trump during his

964
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:18,480
example, Peter Thiel created

965
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,060
Poindexter and also Richard

966
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:26,130
the Iraq War from the George W.

967
00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:29,280
teamed up with Oliver North,

968
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,590
from the Iran Contra scandal of

969
00:59:34,590 --> 00:59:37,920
on creating a private CIA and

970
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,130
been warning about. And also my

971
00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:42,870
had been warning about on

972
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:46,230
together as sort of this effort

973
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:49,050
public private partnership like

974
00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:51,990
people out of the public end of

975
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:54,900
that. So instead of having

976
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:59,580
we've been having, you know, for

977
00:59:59,610 --> 01:00:02,460
just And of taking the public

978
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,920
and acting like it's going to be

979
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,260
practice, it's not. And I think

980
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:11,520
sort of testing out in Argentina

981
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,480
think, you know, sort of Trump's

982
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,630
think is part of that too. It's

983
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:22,350
issued programmable sir bailable

984
01:00:22,350 --> 01:00:25,440
with private sector issued

985
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,250
if it's coming from people like

986
01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:31,620
other, you know, major figure on

987
01:00:31,620 --> 01:00:35,160
significant, you know, retail

988
01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:40,380
operation. And I think also, a

989
01:00:40,380 --> 01:00:42,900
for example, which as you've

990
01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:47,340
significant Peter Thiel ties is

991
01:00:47,340 --> 01:00:49,440
answer bailable. And there's

992
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,190
the Bitcoin Blockchain through

993
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:55,650
up in previous reporting about

994
01:00:55,650 --> 01:00:58,650
carbon market and impose it on

995
01:00:58,890 --> 01:01:03,030
on the Bitcoin Blockchain that,

996
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:06,990
reported on previously as well.

997
01:01:06,990 --> 01:01:10,260
that as it relates to currency?

998
01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:12,870
same network fitting into those

999
01:01:13,410 --> 01:01:17,220
Yeah, that's, that's a good

1000
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:21,120
crypto related reporting. I

1001
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,540
learned through a lot of my

1002
01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:29,580
digital finance infrastructure

1003
01:01:29,610 --> 01:01:33,540
elite in some way are definitely

1004
01:01:33,540 --> 01:01:37,110
possible. And it's kind of my

1005
01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:41,880
cryptocurrencies maybe they were

1006
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,360
way from the beginning. But what

1007
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,470
something like Ethereum, for

1008
01:01:49,470 --> 01:01:53,190
example, it's proof of work to

1009
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:57,180
it quite easy to compromise,

1010
01:01:57,180 --> 01:02:00,780
means that, you know, a number

1011
01:02:00,810 --> 01:02:06,090
sorry, crypto experts, I'm, I'm

1012
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:10,080
know, a lot of whales are

1013
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,940
a lot of Ethereum stakes so that

1014
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:18,840
it right in the future. And I

1015
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,960
if these digital payment

1016
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,430
ways, where perhaps the founder

1017
01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:30,390
build something that couldn't be

1018
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:34,530
powers that be are trying to

1019
01:02:34,530 --> 01:02:37,080
can and that's important, I

1020
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,890
happening with Bitcoin as well.

1021
01:02:40,890 --> 01:02:46,770
people are trying to corrupted

1022
01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:50,430
think also it's worth linking

1023
01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:52,980
what's worth saying is that he's

1024
01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:57,300
finance or digital financial

1025
01:02:57,300 --> 01:03:01,470
a long time. And I think that

1026
01:03:01,470 --> 01:03:05,550
have the quote, pulled up here.

1027
01:03:05,550 --> 01:03:09,600
something along the lines about

1028
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:14,580
the US dollar, right. So he's

1029
01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:20,130
financial infrastructure that

1030
01:03:20,130 --> 01:03:26,730
means I, if I run Pay Pal have

1031
01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:32,040
and influence over society

1032
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,830
explain really, right. I think

1033
01:03:34,830 --> 01:03:38,130
countries if he's able to be

1034
01:03:38,130 --> 01:03:41,040
think that that's just,

1035
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,280
these elite people backing some

1036
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,370
unfortunately, trying to do with

1037
01:03:47,370 --> 01:03:50,220
frustrating about that, and just

1038
01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:53,790
is that a lot of people that are

1039
01:03:53,790 --> 01:03:56,790
interested in decentralized

1040
01:03:56,790 --> 01:04:01,470
to have financial freedom and

1041
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:04,830
happening is people are, you

1042
01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:07,320
people that are interested in

1043
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,240
Unfortunately, that's been

1044
01:04:12,270 --> 01:04:15,780
and a lot of people that are

1045
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:19,050
space that are clearly trying to

1046
01:04:19,050 --> 01:04:22,980
their own ends. I think if you'd

1047
01:04:22,980 --> 01:04:28,260
bit to Worldcoin because Altman

1048
01:04:28,290 --> 01:04:32,460
also been trying to break into

1049
01:04:32,490 --> 01:04:36,750
they all see this kind of

1050
01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:40,470
have this financial

1051
01:04:40,620 --> 01:04:43,500
prominent, let's say and a lot

1052
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:47,640
cryptocurrency. You know,

1053
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,020
you could kind of, I suppose

1054
01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:56,820
financial system as we

1055
01:04:56,820 --> 01:04:59,970
that that's what I've noticed in

1056
01:04:59,970 --> 01:05:02,940
Reporting. But if you'd like I

1057
01:05:02,940 --> 01:05:06,330
Worldcoin because this is,

1058
01:05:06,330 --> 01:05:10,500
Thiel, because Peter Thiel and

1059
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:15,090
close. When I was reporting on

1060
01:05:15,090 --> 01:05:17,880
of learned more about the

1061
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,260
like they're very, very close

1062
01:05:22,290 --> 01:05:25,770
Thiel has brought Altman a

1063
01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:30,600
Bilderberg, for example.

1064
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,470
you look at Founders Fund

1065
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:39,030
has assisted the the rise of

1066
01:05:39,030 --> 01:05:42,420
very good friends. I don't know

1067
01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:45,360
all the time. But I think that

1068
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,930
really critical to talk about

1069
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:55,410
Sam Altman does. And I think

1070
01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:58,050
don't want to talk about these

1071
01:05:58,050 --> 01:06:01,470
out of touch with reality, but

1072
01:06:01,470 --> 01:06:05,310
Altman is proposing with

1073
01:06:05,310 --> 01:06:09,990
essentially proposing a number

1074
01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:13,200
people are interested in reading

1075
01:06:13,230 --> 01:06:17,940
Worldcoin is, I encourage it.

1076
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:25,500
we can get everyone a world ID

1077
01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:29,430
which means there's proof that

1078
01:06:29,460 --> 01:06:36,060
we can have a cryptocurrency

1079
01:06:36,090 --> 01:06:41,580
all encompassing currency that

1080
01:06:41,580 --> 01:06:47,280
becomes prominent, and that if

1081
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,840
can then distribute the winds or

1082
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:56,400
through a UBI. Right, it sounds

1083
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,490
direct people to my article, and

1084
01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:03,600
played down the UBI claims more

1085
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,930
they're just trying to convince

1086
01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:10,830
irises so that they can get a

1087
01:07:10,830 --> 01:07:14,490
siphoned into this

1088
01:07:14,820 --> 01:07:18,960
essentially, what I'm saying is

1089
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,890
people like Altman and other

1090
01:07:22,890 --> 01:07:27,420
interested in these types of

1091
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:32,850
successful, they would force

1092
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:37,530
of governance and how society or

1093
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,240
Altman wants billions of people

1094
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,990
billions of people sign up for

1095
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:50,040
and Worldcoin becomes a

1096
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:55,860
traditional financial structures

1097
01:07:55,860 --> 01:07:59,280
challenged in a critical way if

1098
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,350
right. So to me what I'm seeing

1099
01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:07,770
actions, but through the actions

1100
01:08:07,770 --> 01:08:13,260
supported like Altman, is that

1101
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:16,470
let's say, let's say it this way

1102
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:20,220
effort to develop these projects

1103
01:08:20,580 --> 01:08:24,570
could overturn everything. I

1104
01:08:24,570 --> 01:08:30,960
real democracy in this Worldcoin

1105
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,470
we live our lives with its

1106
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:38,160
receive money through Worldcoin,

1107
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,310
essentially saying our

1108
01:08:41,310 --> 01:08:44,820
center of society, literally the

1109
01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:49,260
center of money. They're

1110
01:08:49,260 --> 01:08:55,020
that really, no one on earth is

1111
01:08:55,770 --> 01:08:58,620
What's also happening with

1112
01:08:58,620 --> 01:09:01,920
aren't really being asked,

1113
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,180
are being given free crypto to

1114
01:09:06,180 --> 01:09:09,540
if you have money, it's easy to

1115
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:13,440
eyes and your weird orb thing.

1116
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:17,490
off, for example, in Argentina,

1117
01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:20,310
money. So they know that if they

1118
01:09:20,310 --> 01:09:25,950
get about $50 of Worldcoin

1119
01:09:25,950 --> 01:09:29,370
don't try to use the system

1120
01:09:30,540 --> 01:09:34,470
Worldcoin has that and Worldcoin

1121
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:39,060
their infrastructure. So they're

1122
01:09:39,060 --> 01:09:42,690
imposing themselves on people in

1123
01:09:42,690 --> 01:09:46,740
democratic. And I think that

1124
01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:49,830
and who a lot of these tech

1125
01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:54,270
actually interested in having

1126
01:09:54,270 --> 01:09:57,840
what the ramifications of their

1127
01:09:58,110 --> 01:10:01,500
They're essentially saying,

1128
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:05,400
interest in this, hopefully this

1129
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,930
able to expand our product and

1130
01:10:09,930 --> 01:10:12,120
whatever political gain comes

1131
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:16,708
Yeah, I think that's a fair

1132
01:10:16,768 --> 01:10:20,007
that, you know, essentially, I

1133
01:10:20,067 --> 01:10:23,606
Whirlpool, and basically what

1134
01:10:23,666 --> 01:10:27,144
the sort of like the private

1135
01:10:27,204 --> 01:10:30,743
the same thing that like the UN

1136
01:10:30,803 --> 01:10:33,862
biometric digital ID,

1137
01:10:33,922 --> 01:10:37,641
digital wallet, which is like a

1138
01:10:37,701 --> 01:10:41,539
like the foundation of the whole

1139
01:10:41,599 --> 01:10:45,318
development goals and agenda,

1140
01:10:45,378 --> 01:10:49,036
don't, you know, if you're like,

1141
01:10:49,096 --> 01:10:52,815
quote, unquote, right, you don't

1142
01:10:52,875 --> 01:10:56,474
the NWO, etc, etc. But you'll be

1143
01:10:56,534 --> 01:11:00,372
sector entity pitching that, you

1144
01:11:00,432 --> 01:11:03,851
or offering that as a product.

1145
01:11:03,911 --> 01:11:07,570
digital ID stuff has been set

1146
01:11:07,630 --> 01:11:10,928
public private partnerships,

1147
01:11:10,988 --> 01:11:14,107
merged with another public

1148
01:11:14,167 --> 01:11:17,766
digital ID that's also sponsored

1149
01:11:17,826 --> 01:11:21,664
people in the UN, they push this

1150
01:11:21,724 --> 01:11:25,323
and the way they're going to

1151
01:11:25,383 --> 01:11:29,162
like this one global system of

1152
01:11:29,222 --> 01:11:32,401
in you know, wallet tied

1153
01:11:32,461 --> 01:11:36,119
it's going to be sort of like a

1154
01:11:36,179 --> 01:11:39,778
private sector vendors, but

1155
01:11:39,838 --> 01:11:43,437
harvested from that digital

1156
01:11:43,496 --> 01:11:47,095
goes with it can be exported

1157
01:11:47,155 --> 01:11:50,454
those formats can be exported

1158
01:11:50,514 --> 01:11:54,173
database somewhere. And I think

1159
01:11:54,233 --> 01:11:57,591
going to get and Worldcoin is

1160
01:11:57,651 --> 01:12:01,550
significant part of that at some

1161
01:12:01,610 --> 01:12:05,209
framing themselves, you know,

1162
01:12:05,269 --> 01:12:08,807
with whatever talking points

1163
01:12:08,867 --> 01:12:12,286
right. So I think that's why

1164
01:12:12,346 --> 01:12:16,005
from the UBI pitch that they had

1165
01:12:16,065 --> 01:12:19,303
that UBI people might be

1166
01:12:19,363 --> 01:12:23,082
Now, there's criticisms of UBI.

1167
01:12:23,142 --> 01:12:26,801
in this Thiel network, so they

1168
01:12:26,861 --> 01:12:30,579
you know, don't like that stuff,

1169
01:12:30,639 --> 01:12:34,058
all of these things. But you

1170
01:12:34,118 --> 01:12:37,897
part of the the play here. And I

1171
01:12:37,957 --> 01:12:41,735
in mind, digital ID is going to

1172
01:12:41,795 --> 01:12:45,514
this, it's going to seem like

1173
01:12:45,574 --> 01:12:48,513
public facing part is

1174
01:12:48,573 --> 01:12:52,171
where all the data goes and like

1175
01:12:52,231 --> 01:12:56,010
centralized. And there's so much

1176
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:59,908
digital ID, but also in, in the

1177
01:12:59,968 --> 01:13:03,807
decentralized in name only. And

1178
01:13:03,867 --> 01:13:07,106
take all of the crypto

1179
01:13:07,166 --> 01:13:10,585
way. And I think what you

1180
01:13:10,645 --> 01:13:14,423
is very interesting, as far as

1181
01:13:14,483 --> 01:13:18,022
the dollar because PayPal has

1182
01:13:18,082 --> 01:13:21,561
stablecoin, dollar stablecoin

1183
01:13:21,621 --> 01:13:25,039
like Tether, USDT and USDC

1184
01:13:25,099 --> 01:13:28,698
was actually originally a Sam

1185
01:13:28,758 --> 01:13:32,117
his blog some time ago, the idea

1186
01:13:32,177 --> 01:13:35,655
stablecoin, that could be

1187
01:13:35,715 --> 01:13:38,894
it was emailed to Trump sec,

1188
01:13:38,954 --> 01:13:42,553
Minuchin, by Jared Kushner,

1189
01:13:42,613 --> 01:13:46,092
look, we should probably do

1190
01:13:46,152 --> 01:13:49,570
And, you know, as Justice

1191
01:13:49,630 --> 01:13:53,109
second term, you have all the

1192
01:13:53,169 --> 01:13:56,648
written about to be passed and

1193
01:13:56,708 --> 01:14:00,246
Committee, that's going to play

1194
01:14:00,306 --> 01:14:03,725
winners and losers of post

1195
01:14:03,785 --> 01:14:07,504
one of those figures, along with

1196
01:14:07,564 --> 01:14:10,982
written a lot of the legislation

1197
01:14:11,042 --> 01:14:14,761
example. And again, I think it's

1198
01:14:14,821 --> 01:14:18,600
Vance and his upcoming influence

1199
01:14:18,660 --> 01:14:22,198
consider that right off of the

1200
01:14:22,258 --> 01:14:25,617
convention, is the Bitcoin

1201
01:14:25,677 --> 01:14:29,096
speaking Erik Prince is having

1202
01:14:29,156 --> 01:14:32,695
around the same time you know,

1203
01:14:32,754 --> 01:14:36,533
going to be there. I will not be

1204
01:14:36,593 --> 01:14:40,432
not really not really sure if I

1205
01:14:40,492 --> 01:14:43,970
and also have some other reasons

1206
01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:47,149
definitely going to be

1207
01:14:47,209 --> 01:14:50,748
says about Bitcoin, it's very

1208
01:14:50,808 --> 01:14:54,527
effort to yoke Bitcoin to the US

1209
01:14:54,586 --> 01:14:58,365
functions like digital credit,

1210
01:14:58,425 --> 01:15:01,664
do a lot of things. But

1211
01:15:01,724 --> 01:15:05,143
these people, you know, there's

1212
01:15:05,203 --> 01:15:08,801
basically as a sink for us money

1213
01:15:08,861 --> 01:15:11,980
allowing, you know, quantitative

1214
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,579
irresponsible central bank

1215
01:15:15,639 --> 01:15:18,578
you can just use Bitcoin as a

1216
01:15:18,638 --> 01:15:21,817
hyperinflation that would

1217
01:15:21,876 --> 01:15:25,535
opposed to actually being a you

1218
01:15:25,595 --> 01:15:28,834
you know, Central Bank,

1219
01:15:28,894 --> 01:15:32,373
fiscal irresponsibility, it's

1220
01:15:32,433 --> 01:15:36,091
enabler in the hands of these

1221
01:15:36,151 --> 01:15:39,450
anyone interested in these

1222
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:42,989
Keep an eye on those things

1223
01:15:43,049 --> 01:15:46,767
would like to add about Pay Pal,

1224
01:15:46,827 --> 01:15:50,186
on, you know, some big Wall

1225
01:15:50,246 --> 01:15:53,785
head of city, during the 1990s

1226
01:15:53,845 --> 01:15:57,383
wanted to, you know, get into

1227
01:15:57,443 --> 01:16:01,042
surveilling people, you know,

1228
01:16:01,102 --> 01:16:04,941
finances because he was talking

1229
01:16:05,001 --> 01:16:08,539
and 90s. And saying, like, we

1230
01:16:08,599 --> 01:16:12,138
transactions, we know they're

1231
01:16:12,198 --> 01:16:15,797
even do, because like, you know,

1232
01:16:15,857 --> 01:16:19,335
blowing out their credit card,

1233
01:16:19,395 --> 01:16:23,054
they're able to surveil people

1234
01:16:23,114 --> 01:16:26,653
else. So the idea of, of that,

1235
01:16:26,713 --> 01:16:30,491
Peter Thiel and the other people

1236
01:16:30,551 --> 01:16:33,730
direct connection with

1237
01:16:33,790 --> 01:16:37,509
to them as they were setting up

1238
01:16:37,569 --> 01:16:41,347
you know, make that happen. And

1239
01:16:41,407 --> 01:16:45,066
dollar stablecoin and are poised

1240
01:16:45,126 --> 01:16:49,025
king made stablecoin of this new

1241
01:16:49,085 --> 01:16:52,443
to pay very close attention to

1242
01:16:52,503 --> 01:16:55,982
consider that all all the

1243
01:16:56,042 --> 01:16:59,401
today, all these different

1244
01:16:59,461 --> 01:17:02,939
different protegees in like

1245
01:17:02,999 --> 01:17:06,418
of these, you know, US law

1246
01:17:06,478 --> 01:17:10,257
different sectors. I mean, it's

1247
01:17:10,317 --> 01:17:13,855
the empire that these people

1248
01:17:13,915 --> 01:17:17,634
again, you know, Peter Thiel is

1249
01:17:17,694 --> 01:17:21,353
the PayPal crowd in general,

1250
01:17:21,413 --> 01:17:25,131
I know a lot of people love him,

1251
01:17:25,191 --> 01:17:28,610
intelligence contractor,

1252
01:17:28,670 --> 01:17:32,029
I don't know, need to stop

1253
01:17:32,089 --> 01:17:35,627
man. I don't know. If sometimes

1254
01:17:35,687 --> 01:17:39,286
propaganda for billionaires,

1255
01:17:39,346 --> 01:17:43,185
save us all and they're secretly

1256
01:17:43,245 --> 01:17:46,903
I don't know. Because it's, if

1257
01:17:46,963 --> 01:17:50,742
doing, that's not what they're

1258
01:17:50,802 --> 01:17:54,221
put out has sort of like

1259
01:17:54,281 --> 01:17:58,059
feel like to think that they're

1260
01:17:58,119 --> 01:18:01,658
esque figures. I mean, you see

1261
01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:05,317
really unsettling. Maybe they'll

1262
01:18:05,377 --> 01:18:08,735
he'll become a superhero now,

1263
01:18:08,795 --> 01:18:12,394
sorry, I got a little rambley

1264
01:18:12,454 --> 01:18:16,053
anything you'd like to add to

1265
01:18:16,113 --> 01:18:19,471
as it relates to either, you

1266
01:18:19,531 --> 01:18:22,830
stablecoins or you know,

1267
01:18:22,890 --> 01:18:24,750
Worldcoin stuff? Well, I think,

1268
01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:28,590
I guess one comment I have

1269
01:18:28,590 --> 01:18:30,990
you've said this before, but I

1270
01:18:30,990 --> 01:18:35,100
repeating is I do think a lot of

1271
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,440
the dangers regarding something

1272
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:44,490
central bank would be operating

1273
01:18:44,490 --> 01:18:49,470
centralized access, at least to

1274
01:18:49,470 --> 01:18:52,920
that money becomes programmable,

1275
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,800
off or otherwise manipulate

1276
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,220
increasingly starting to

1277
01:18:59,430 --> 01:19:02,520
I'm not saying we shouldn't be

1278
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,270
I think unfortunately, it's it's

1279
01:19:06,270 --> 01:19:09,750
once these things are kind of

1280
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:13,830
direction, like stablecoins, I

1281
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:18,150
harder to convince people. Look,

1282
01:19:18,150 --> 01:19:22,290
private sector to be able to do

1283
01:19:22,290 --> 01:19:25,080
unfortunately, that's going to

1284
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:30,630
point. And I think

1285
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:34,230
not been driven home in the way

1286
01:19:34,230 --> 01:19:40,050
anybody who is thinking that

1287
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,630
shouldn't be mistaken. I mean, I

1288
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:46,680
problem is that I think

1289
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,160
terms of finance, generally

1290
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,650
things claimed to be

1291
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:57,960
actually decentralized. And if

1292
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,110
stuff is going to be rolled out

1293
01:20:01,110 --> 01:20:03,780
you've noted, a lot of

1294
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:10,710
competing to capture, let's say,

1295
01:20:10,710 --> 01:20:14,640
what governments may or may not

1296
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,870
dollar stablecoin or other

1297
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:22,590
think unfortunately, some of

1298
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,850
without critical discussion

1299
01:20:26,850 --> 01:20:30,840
find that to be a significant

1300
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,350
of tech billionaires are kind of

1301
01:20:34,350 --> 01:20:37,080
vaguely like they're very aware

1302
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:42,540
that's why a lot of effort has

1303
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:45,870
digital financial

1304
01:20:45,870 --> 01:20:49,710
that that can give them a lot of

1305
01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:51,090
lot about it right now?

1306
01:20:51,090 --> 01:20:53,730
I think those are some good

1307
01:20:53,730 --> 01:20:56,910
probably best to maybe wrap up

1308
01:20:56,910 --> 01:20:59,640
for for a bit. Is there anything

1309
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:00,120
topic?

1310
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:04,800
I suppose my only real

1311
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,310
people are portraying themselves

1312
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:11,730
really critical to ask you know,

1313
01:21:11,730 --> 01:21:15,000
considering you know, J.D. Vance

1314
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,040
establishment. Thiel has really

1315
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,520
something worth pointing out is

1316
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:28,290
number of media companies,

1317
01:21:28,290 --> 01:21:32,220
guess, Tucker, Carlson's new

1318
01:21:33,450 --> 01:21:38,190
when we see things like that, it

1319
01:21:38,220 --> 01:21:42,780
this type of how do I say this?

1320
01:21:42,780 --> 01:21:46,260
to what extent any of this can

1321
01:21:46,260 --> 01:21:49,380
seeing a lot of quote unquote,

1322
01:21:49,380 --> 01:21:55,860
completely uncritical of J.D.

1323
01:21:55,860 --> 01:21:58,620
there won't really be a lot of

1324
01:21:58,620 --> 01:22:03,960
appointment, considering Thiel

1325
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,380
general, kind of, I don't want

1326
01:22:07,380 --> 01:22:10,260
say it that way. But it's

1327
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:12,660
that people aren't really

1328
01:22:12,660 --> 01:22:16,980
they should. And it's the same

1329
01:22:16,980 --> 01:22:20,280
think a lot of people felt that

1330
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:25,620
things with Twitter X. But the

1331
01:22:25,650 --> 01:22:29,100
a lot, right? And I think,

1332
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:33,030
are blinded to that, because

1333
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:37,290
stood up to the establishment.

1334
01:22:37,290 --> 01:22:40,680
are getting censored more on X

1335
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,480
somebody portrays themselves as

1336
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:48,780
twice. I mean, if there are

1337
01:22:48,780 --> 01:22:52,050
all we can really say is, look,

1338
01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:55,950
forward. I don't know. I am

1339
01:22:55,950 --> 01:22:58,050
that, to say the least. But

1340
01:22:58,050 --> 01:22:59,040
a great discussion.

1341
01:22:59,970 --> 01:23:02,490
Well, I can understand

1342
01:23:02,490 --> 01:23:05,850
think this particular

1343
01:23:05,850 --> 01:23:09,750
lot of money trying to influence

1344
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:13,890
them, and to sort of paint them

1345
01:23:13,890 --> 01:23:17,670
if you look at what they do in

1346
01:23:17,670 --> 01:23:21,840
done, you know, that definitely

1347
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,980
Musk goes, I think people need

1348
01:23:25,980 --> 01:23:28,800
wanted to buy Twitter, he said

1349
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,950
means linking a government

1350
01:23:31,950 --> 01:23:35,790
account. And he also his goal is

1351
01:23:35,790 --> 01:23:39,720
done, it turned Twitter into X

1352
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,230
says half of the financial

1353
01:23:43,230 --> 01:23:45,750
gobbled up obtaining all of

1354
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:49,380
licensees, and now a majority of

1355
01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:53,910
time until they try and become a

1356
01:23:54,090 --> 01:23:58,320
there's been efforts to sort of,

1357
01:23:58,770 --> 01:24:02,160
people in independent media,

1358
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,770
thing, which by the way, I do

1359
01:24:04,770 --> 01:24:08,430
a blue check against my will

1360
01:24:08,430 --> 01:24:11,430
I don't even have Twitter

1361
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:14,760
Elon Musk chose to do to

1362
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,830
that were critical of blue,

1363
01:24:16,830 --> 01:24:20,640
for it, just want to make that

1364
01:24:20,670 --> 01:24:23,310
that are, you know, on

1365
01:24:23,310 --> 01:24:27,120
media dependent on money from x

1366
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,520
much money I'm making on X, you

1367
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,460
speech and, you know, self

1368
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:35,400
certain things that may not make

1369
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,600
monetization, right. And also,

1370
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:44,760
you as an influencer and then

1371
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:48,210
you know, using x as some sort

1372
01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:51,120
which is ultimately the end goal

1373
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,640
when you consider you know, we

1374
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,120
this idea of like, linking your

1375
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,060
all of that. It's very clear. I

1376
01:25:00,060 --> 01:25:03,180
something quite similar in that

1377
01:25:03,180 --> 01:25:05,790
consider the brain machine

1378
01:25:05,790 --> 01:25:11,160
spy contracts and all of that,

1379
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,340
consider people to be very,

1380
01:25:14,340 --> 01:25:16,800
on there. And but I also think

1381
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,980
is it has to do with the

1382
01:25:19,980 --> 01:25:22,350
can't really trust what we're

1383
01:25:22,350 --> 01:25:27,120
are so manipulated, we know that

1384
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,790
years now, but at least 10

1385
01:25:29,790 --> 01:25:32,850
Musk is a good contractor for

1386
01:25:32,850 --> 01:25:35,310
how to manipulate Americans,

1387
01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:38,760
around the world on social media

1388
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:43,080
the US Air Force in one, you

1389
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:47,190
that the goal of the program was

1390
01:25:47,190 --> 01:25:51,540
media, like, you control drones,

1391
01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:55,110
like hypnotize people, I mean, I

1392
01:25:55,110 --> 01:26:00,810
think a lot of what we see on

1393
01:26:00,810 --> 01:26:03,180
the big competitor to Twitter,

1394
01:26:03,180 --> 01:26:07,500
Thiel essentially made, right? I

1395
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:10,740
early out, outside investor, and

1396
01:26:10,740 --> 01:26:16,230
exist, right. So, um, you know,

1397
01:26:16,230 --> 01:26:19,290
perceptions. And so, you know,

1398
01:26:19,290 --> 01:26:21,690
there's the opinion of people,

1399
01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:25,200
algorithms. A lot of them are

1400
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,230
just the US military alone, but

1401
01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:31,440
have also invested 10s of

1402
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:36,270
highly sophisticated bots,

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Altman, Elon has supercharged

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,480
manipulation machine. And I

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01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:46,080
be level headed and objective,

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or who's an office or who's

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01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:51,060
you know, can be disheartened by

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01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:54,000
that is also by design, because

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And remember, when Facebook was,

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newsfeeds to try and manipulate

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depressed, I think they tailor

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user profile, and they

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01:27:08,490 --> 01:27:12,120
think is most effective for

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01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,370
think that's important to keep

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01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:17,700
listening, please take that to

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01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:22,050
between now and like the

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01:27:22,050 --> 01:27:25,020
like Be careful about your like

1418
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,600
because again, it's there to

1419
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,330
you successfully manipulate

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01:27:30,330 --> 01:27:34,140
people's behavior, which is

1421
01:27:34,140 --> 01:27:37,710
that's a big part of the Eric

1422
01:27:37,710 --> 01:27:40,830
is about how AI is ultimately a

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01:27:41,010 --> 01:27:45,600
and also to diminish us

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01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,780
dependent on AI and can't

1425
01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:51,240
you consider that Eric Schmidt

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,120
at Bilderberg, and all of these

1427
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,810
the tools for that. And the AI

1428
01:27:57,810 --> 01:28:00,390
this is something that needs to

1429
01:28:00,390 --> 01:28:02,670
people need to take

1430
01:28:02,670 --> 01:28:05,880
these products and how they, you

1431
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:09,540
social media or whatever. Not

1432
01:28:09,540 --> 01:28:12,450
maybe for some people, it is the

1433
01:28:12,450 --> 01:28:14,580
do that because of work,

1434
01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:18,210
fall in that category, at least

1435
01:28:18,210 --> 01:28:20,880
not be linking a government

1436
01:28:21,210 --> 01:28:24,810
ever. But you know, I think

1437
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,690
stuff in mind. And because, you

1438
01:28:27,690 --> 01:28:30,210
perception manipulation going

1439
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,260
like, in the first time Trump

1440
01:28:34,260 --> 01:28:36,420
all those polls from the

1441
01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:40,200
saying Hillary's gonna win 98%

1442
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,620
Trump. You know, that was a

1443
01:28:43,620 --> 01:28:46,260
campaign, they do this stuff all

1444
01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:48,570
social media makes it easier

1445
01:28:48,570 --> 01:28:51,930
perception of Twitter acts as

1446
01:28:51,930 --> 01:28:54,540
Now everyone is free to talk,

1447
01:28:54,540 --> 01:28:57,480
at all. And if anything, the

1448
01:28:57,480 --> 01:29:01,050
than ever, because it's not like

1449
01:29:01,050 --> 01:29:03,480
is going to say no to the

1450
01:29:03,630 --> 01:29:07,020
sophisticated bots and their

1451
01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:09,450
that they've developed expressly

1452
01:29:09,450 --> 01:29:12,570
allow them probably to let them

1453
01:29:12,570 --> 01:29:16,320
previously, you know. So again,

1454
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:21,360
to keep a level head these days

1455
01:29:21,390 --> 01:29:24,120
several your reporting has

1456
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,940
that fight. And I definitely

1457
01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:29,280
your work. Very happy to have

1458
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:36,450
hangout. Is there any well?

1459
01:29:36,450 --> 01:29:37,560
your work and support you?

1460
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:41,160
Well, first of all, thank

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01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:46,650
the main thing I do, I do have x

1462
01:29:46,650 --> 01:29:49,710
for that. It's just my name. I

1463
01:29:49,710 --> 01:29:52,230
often, the more because I've

1464
01:29:52,230 --> 01:29:55,200
platform, but the main thing is

1465
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:59,520
enjoy tweeting like I don't,

1466
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,060
main thing So the main place

1467
01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:07,320
sub stack where I do publish, I

1468
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,190
cover the intersection of

1469
01:30:11,190 --> 01:30:14,970
then I post my other reporting

1470
01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:19,920
rule a pax.substack.com. So

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01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:24,600
follow my work. Otherwise, I

1472
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,940
or something. I should probably

1473
01:30:26,940 --> 01:30:28,740
that's a good place to find me.

1474
01:30:30,150 --> 01:30:31,770
All right. Great. And thank

1475
01:30:31,770 --> 01:30:34,530
conversation. And thanks for

1476
01:30:34,530 --> 01:30:36,990
listen to this podcast. Please

1477
01:30:36,990 --> 01:30:41,820
informative. Hopefully you did.

1478
01:30:41,820 --> 01:30:44,490
always, to the people that

1479
01:30:44,490 --> 01:30:49,710
Unlimited Hangout and help me

1480
01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:53,460
Stavroula, who were just again,

1481
01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:56,250
contributor like her and also my

1482
01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:58,380
that contributes to Unlimited

1483
01:30:58,380 --> 01:31:00,990
podcast itself so thanks very

1484
01:31:00,990 --> 01:31:01,410
episode.